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On this edition of The Adult in the Room, Victoria Taft breaks down the corporate payouts, legislative censorship, and foreign-hosted extremist networks dominating the headlines: The $17 Billion Meta Shakedown (Dr. Sal Giorgiani): Victoria analyzes the multi-state settlement requiring Meta to pay up to $17 billion over ten years. Men's health expert and former APHA chair Dr. Sal Giorgiani joins the show to examine the physiological and neurological damage caused by social media algorithms. Dr. Giorgiani breaks down dopamine hijacking, male body-image dysmorphia, and why state general funds pocket billions while injured teens and families receive zero direct compensation. Nick Shirley Schools the New York Times: Independent investigative journalist Nick Shirley goes head-to-head with a New York Times reporter in Sacramento over the "Nick Shirley Act". Victoria reviews the video showing how California lawmakers are attempting to weaponize privacy laws and prior restraint to criminalize undercover reporting on fraudulent non-profit and immigration service rings. State Dept Blacklists Global Antifa Tech Infrastructure: The U.S. State Department and Treasury issue sanctions against Italy-based Autistici/Inventati (A/I Collective). Declassified intelligence exposes how this foreign collective provided bulletproof servers, encrypted communications, and doxing portals for violent extremists—including Rose City Antifa, Jane's Revenge, Stop Cop City, and European critical infrastructure saboteurs. The Left-Islamist Revolutionary Nexus: Victoria connects the ideological dots between Western Marxist movements and radical Islamist theocracy, referencing Haviv Rettig Gur's analysis of Maoist protracted warfare, Shia redemptive martyrdom, and viral footage of a local mayor silencing dissent over Hezbollah.

In this episode of The Pharmacist's Voice Podcast, I talk with Ohio pharmacist Dan Krinsky about writing, co-authoring, and editing. This is Episode 22 in the Pharmacist Authors Series. Unlike most episodes in the series, our conversation does not focus on one specific book. Dan has written and edited many types of professional content, including continuing education and journal articles, newsletters, patient education materials, business proposals, and pharmacy reference resources. Dan first appeared on the podcast in Episode 133, when we discussed his pharmacy career and pharmacogenomics. This time, writing gets the spotlight. Dan shares practical advice for pharmacists, pharmacy students, pharmacy technicians, and pharmacy professors who want to begin writing or expand their writing experience. Dan's contact information, website, and social media links  Dan Krinsky BS, MS, RPh, FAPhA on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-krinsky-bs-ms-rph-fapha-a8537a/  Dan's email dkrinsky@educare-4u.com  EduCare4U, LLC website https://www.educare-4u.com  PGx101, LLC on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/pgx101  The Pharmacist's Voice Podcast Episode 133 featuring Dan Krinsky About Dan Krinsky B.S., M.S., R.Ph., FAPhA (July 2026) Dan is business owner, educator, entrepreneur and pharmacist who is passionate about advancing patient care and the pharmacy profession.  He owns 2 businesses:  EduCare4U, LLC, (focused on education and patient care) and PGx101, LLC (focused on pharmacogenomics education and practice implementation).  Mr. Krinsky is currently a Professor at the LECOM School of Pharmacy, serving as a lecturer, committee member, and student advisor.  He is a Fellow of the American Pharmacists Association and an active member of the Medication Management Special Interest Group.  Other ventures include working with providers to optimize patients' drug therapy; professional writing; creation of certificate training programs, and new business development.  Mr. Krinsky is Editor-in-Chief and Section Editor for the American Pharmacists Association publication 'Handbook of Nonprescription Drugs:  An Interactive Approach to Self-Care.' Mr. Krinsky's areas of expertise include community pharmacy practice, drug information, patient counseling and education, OTCs, natural products, pharmacogenomics, and developing and implementing medication therapy and disease state management programs.  His primary professional goal is to 'pay it forward', finding ways to make the profession better for the next generation of pharmacists.     Questions and abbreviated answers from our conversation How did writing become part of your professional life? Dan's first major writing project was his master's thesis in pharmacokinetics. Writing did not come naturally at first, but he discovered that he enjoyed gathering information and turning it into something useful for an audience. How can someone decide whether writing is right for them? Start with a topic you care about. Identify the audience, look for gaps in available information, and find a mentor or support network. You do not need to work alone. Should new writers start small or go directly to writing a book? Dan recommends beginning with an article, newsletter, or another smaller project when possible. Smaller projects provide quicker feedback and help writers build skills and confidence. Someone who wants to start with a book should narrow the topic, identify the audience, create an outline, set deadlines, and seek feedback early. What has Dan written? His work includes newsletters, business proposals, patient advisory leaflets, consumer health information, journal and continuing education articles, and two co-authored point-of-care resources: the Natural Therapeutics Pocket Guide and the Drug-Induced Nutrient Depletion Handbook. He has also contributed to multiple editions of APhA's Handbook of Nonprescription Drugs as an author and editor. How are writing, co-authoring, and editing different? An author creates the content. Co-authors share responsibility and need clear roles, flexibility, and communication. An editor improves accuracy, organization, clarity, and usefulness while protecting the author's voice. When should an author involve an editor? As early as possible. An editor can help shape the audience, scope, outline, organization, and flow before the author invests months in the wrong direction. Early feedback is usually easier to handle than dozens of changes at the end. How can someone find a useful topic? Pay attention to recurring patient questions, conversations, media claims, and gaps in health information. The final product does not need to be a book. It could be an article, handout, script, social media post, or educational program. What keeps people from starting? Dan identifies three common barriers: waiting to become "the expert," fear of criticism, and lack of structure. Know what you know, recognize what you do not know, and build a network that can help fill the gaps. How can pharmacists develop a writing habit? Schedule writing time, set specific goals, work backward from deadlines, and use an accountability partner. A detailed outline makes a large project feel more manageable. Where can beginners find legitimate writing opportunities? Consider professional associations, colleges of pharmacy, health systems, community pharmacies, continuing education companies, consumer health websites, and digital health companies. Build a portfolio with writing samples, areas of expertise, testimonials, and other communication experience. How long should someone give writing before deciding it is not for them? There is no single timeline. A newsletter article may take a month; a book may take 12 to 18 months. Set realistic deadlines for each project, start small, and give yourself time to learn. What is Dan's final advice for aspiring authors? Find a mentor, be patient, expect revisions, learn from feedback, and enjoy the process. Writing may not be the right path for everyone, but it can be a meaningful way to educate patients, serve the profession, and create new opportunities. Pharmacist Authors Series Episode List 2025 Pharmacist Authors Series Part 1 of 3 (June) Episode 336 with Jerry Levin, PhD, LMT - Affirm Yourself: 15 Principles to Retrain the Voice in Your Head. Part 2 of 3 (July) Episode 340 with Ashley Walker, PharmD - Expanding Your Brilliance: Creating Effortless Abundance while Navigating Business and Motherhood https://amzn.to/418hdwx Part 3 of 3 (October) Episode 353 with Sandra O. Onye, PharmD - Winning Is in My DNA: 15 Minutes of Self-Reflection https://amzn.to/48KTtn3 2024 Pharmacist Authors Series Part 1 of 3 (June) Episode 282 with Steve Leuck, PharmD - A Pharmacist's Story An Authentic Tale of True Love, Family, Addiction, and the Practice of Pharmacy Part 2 of 3 (July) Episode 288 Helen Sairany, PharmD - The We You Don't See:  Understanding the Long Shadows of Trauma Part 3 of 3 (August) Episode 293 Kim Newlove with Publishing in Doses Co-Founders Janan Sarwar, PharmD and Theary Chhim, PharmD plus audio engineer, Julie Walthers. = 2023 Pharmacist Authors Series (Part 1 of 15) June 5, Introduction to the Pharmacist Authors Series (Episode 220) (Part 2 of 15) June 9, The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast Episode 221:  Interview with Salam Kabbani, PharmD about her book: COVID Long-Hauler:  My Life Since COVID (Part 3 of 15) June 12, The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast Episode 222:  Interview with audio engineer Julie Walthers from Whole Story Studio: https://www.wholestorystudio.com/  (Part 4 of 15) June 16, The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast Episode 223 Interview with Erin L. Albert, PharmD on her book The Life Science Lawyer Part 5 of 15) June 19, The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast Episode 224 Interview with Sue Ojageer, PharmD on her children's book The Pharma Heroes:  The Power of Precision Medicine (Part 6 of 15) June 23, The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast Episode 225: Interview with Tony Guerra, PharmD about his Pharmacist Residency and Career Series (8 books) (Part 7 of 15) June 26, The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast Episode 226:  Interview with Christina Fontana, PharmD about her book Moving Beyond the Counter:  Elevating into Heart-Centered Health Care through Entrepreneurship (Part 8 of 15) June 30, The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast Episode 227: Interview with Jade L. Ranger, PharmD, about her book Mustard Seed Mentality: Unscripted Pearls of Wisdom from a Wife, Mother, and Entrepreneur (Part 9 of 15) July 7, The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast Episode 229: Interview with RDML Pam Schweitzer, PharmD and her daughter Amy Graves about their children's book Alice and Jack Hike the Grand Canyon (Part 10 of 15) July 10, The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast Episode 230: Interview with Cory Jenks, PharmD about his book Permission to Care:  Building a Healthcare Culture That Thrives in Chaos (Part 11 of 15) July 14, The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast Episode 231: Interview with Donna Bartlett, PharmD about her book MedStrong:  Shed Your Meds for a Better, Healthier You - Aging Well Through Deprescribing  (Part 12 of 15) July 17, The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast Episode 232:  Interview with Frieda Wiley, PharmD about her book Telecommuting Psychosis:  From Surviving to Thriving While Working in Your Pajama Pants.  Plus, we touch on her 3 children's books in development. (Part 13 of 15) July 21, The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast Episode 233:  Interview with Tim Ulbrich, PharmD about his book Seven Figure Pharmacist:  How to Maximize Your Income, Eliminate Debt, and Create Wealth  (Part 14 of 15) July 24, The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast Episode 234:  Interview with LaQuoia Johnson, PharmD about her book How Rxacism Manifests Inside the Small World of Pharmacy (Part 15 of 15) July 28, The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast Episode 235:  Pharmacist Authors Series wrap-up (solo show) Kim's websites and social media links ✅ Monthly email newsletter sign-up link https://bit.ly/3AHJIaF  ✅ LinkedIn Newsletter link https://bit.ly/40VmV5B ✅ Business website https://www.thepharmacistsvoice.com ✅ Buy my book on amazon.com https://amzn.to/4iAKNBs   ✅ The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast https://www.thepharmacistsvoice.com/podcast ✅ Drug pronunciation course https://www.kimnewlove.com ✅ A Behind-the-scenes look at The Pharmacist's Voice ® Podcast © Online Course https://www.kimnewlove.com  ✅ LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimnewlove  ✅ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/kim.newlove.96  ✅ Twitter https://twitter.com/KimNewloveVO ✅ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/kimnewlovevo/ ✅ YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA3UyhNBi9CCqIMP8t1wRZQ ✅ ACX (Audiobook Narrator Profile) https://www.acx.com/narrator?p=A10FSORRTANJ4Z ✅ Start a podcast with my coach, Dave Jackson from The School of Podcasting! 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HIV prevention advocate Siviwe Gaika urges policymakers, governments, and donors to expand the HIV prevention “choice basket,” emphasizing long-acting injectable PrEP (cabotegravir) as WHO-recommended, safe, and highly effective, and calling for funding, youth-friendly delivery, streamlined national guidelines, and transparent accountability; she also acknowledges Glggobal Fund investment and South Africa's commitment to long-acting innovation and local manufacturing. In the AIDS 2060 episode, host Ben interviews APHA executive director Yvette Raphael about why the world is not on track to end AIDS as a public health threat by 2030, the impact of shifting U.S. funding, and the need for country-led responses, health sovereignty, and dignity for key populations. Raphael centers feminist prevention advocacy, the Choice Manifesto, intergenerational leadership, better trial inclusion and post-trial access, and warns about misinformation on social media. 00:00 Youth Prevention Reality 00:55 Meet Yvette Raphael 02:21 Are We On Track 06:02 Funding Shockwaves 08:39 Self Reliance Now 12:04 Southern Led Response 15:55 Why Prevention Matters 20:41 Choice Manifesto Fight 23:15 Africa As A Market 25:51 Youth Boom Stakes 30:12 Let Youth Lead 31:49 Mentoring Future Leaders 33:01 Message to Our Future Selves 34:27 Pregnancy in Clinical Trials 38:25 Post Trial Access Rights 40:53 Why Youth Still Fear HIV 42:27 Social Media Misinformation 45:58 Health Sovereignty and Aid 50:31 Documenting Community Lessons 52:47 Pan African Collaboration 55:22 Let Young People Thrive 57:00 Closing Thanks and Next Steps Advocates for the Prevention of HIV in Africa https://www.apha.org.za Check Out Ben's Substack: https://substack.com/@benplumley1 Join the Conversation! How do you see the future of global health unfolding? Share your thoughts in the comments! Subscribe & Stay Updated: Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast platform. Watch on YouTube & subscribe for more in-depth global health.

Welcome back to another episode of the unSeminary podcast. Today we're joined by Dave Ferguson, co-founder of Exponential, co-founder of Community Christian Church, and author of Multiplier: How Healthy Leaders Create Lasting Impact. For decades, Dave has championed one central conviction: the Church will never fulfill its mission through addition alone. In this conversation, he challenges church leaders to rethink success, embrace multiplication, and cultivate the kind of personal health that sustains lasting kingdom impact. Are you building a church that grows, or a movement that multiplies? Wondering how your leadership today shapes generations of ministry tomorrow? Dave offers a compelling vision for creating influence that extends far beyond your own church. Multiplication changes everything. // Dave believes many church leaders are asking the wrong question. Instead of waking up each day asking, “How can I grow my church?” he challenges leaders to ask, “How can we multiply God's Kingdom?” That subtle shift transforms every leadership decision, from staffing and budgeting to leadership development and church planting. Growth focuses on adding people to one church. Multiplication focuses on reproducing disciples, leaders, churches, and networks that reach beyond one church long after the original leader steps away. The Church needs a new scorecard. // Only a small percentage of churches in the United States are actively reproducing new churches. Through Exponential’s “16% Mission,” the goal is to move enough churches toward multiplication that reproducing churches become the cultural norm rather than the exception. Reaching this tipping point would fundamentally reshape how churches think about mission and influence. Culture beats strategy every time. // Multiplication doesn’t begin with a sermon series or a strategic initiative—it begins with culture. Dave encourages leaders to model multiplication long before they publicly announce it. Whether leading a small group, mentoring an apprentice, or developing future leaders, pastors must demonstrate the behaviors they hope to reproduce. People adopt what leaders consistently practice far more readily than what they merely promote. Health fuels multiplication—not hustle. // While multiplication requires intentional effort, Dave warns against building ministry on relentless hustle. Instead, healthy multiplication grows out of healthy leaders. Churches don’t simply reproduce strategies. They reproduce the character, priorities, and habits of their leaders. If leaders neglect their own well-being, they will unintentionally reproduce that same dysfunction throughout the organization. Watch the four gauges. // At the heart of Dave’s new book, Multiplier: How Healthy Leaders Create Lasting Impact, is a simple daily framework for preventing leadership drift. He encourages leaders to evaluate four areas every day: relational health, physical health, mental health, and spiritual health. By honestly assessing these four “gauges,” leaders can recognize unhealthy patterns before they become major failures. Rather than waking up years later wondering how they drifted so far, leaders make small course corrections every day. Even better, Dave encourages processing these areas with trusted community, since accountability helps combat self-deception. Think beyond your lifetime. // Ultimately, Dave invites leaders to adopt a longer horizon for ministry. Buildings, attendance, and personal accomplishments eventually fade, but investing in people creates lasting kingdom influence. When leaders intentionally multiply healthy disciples and healthy leaders, their ministry continues bearing fruit long after they’re gone. That, Dave believes, is the kind of legacy worth pursuing. To learn more about Dave Ferguson, Exponential, and his new book Multiplier: How Healthy Leaders Create Lasting Impact, visit exponential.org/multiplier or daveferguson.org. Email Dave directly to get bulk copies of his book. Thank You for Tuning In! There are a lot of podcasts you could be tuning into today, but you chose unSeminary, and I'm grateful for that. If you enjoyed today's show, please share it by using the social media buttons you see at the left hand side of this page. Also, kindly consider taking the 60-seconds it takes to leave an honest review and rating for the podcast on iTunes, they're extremely helpful when it comes to the ranking of the show and you can bet that I read every single one of them personally! Episode Transcript Rich Birch — Hey friends, welcome to the unSeminary podcast. So glad that you have decided to tune in. You’re in for a real treat today. Today is a leader, you know, you have those leaders in your life. You’re like, man, I wish everybody could be exposed to this person and would follow along. And you feel like you’re introducing a friend to friends. That’s what today’s conversation is. And I hope at the same time, it’ll challenge you and encourage you as we think about the future. Rich Birch — Excited to have Dave Ferguson back on the podcast from Exponential. It is a growing community of leaders committed to accelerating multiplication of healthy, reproducing faith communities. They equip multipliers through a variety of resources. You might know their big event, Exponential, but that’s not all they do. They do a lot of other stuff as well.Rich Birch — Dave also was the co-founder of Community Christian in Chicagoland and New Thing. We actually had Ted on recently for a follow-up episode, which is fantastic. So these will this will come out at a similar time. Dave also wrote a book recently that I want you to pick up. It’s called Multiplier: How Healthy Leaders Create Lasting Impact. Dave, welcome to the show.Dave Ferguson — Hey, thanks, Rich. Good to be with you. Rich Birch — Yeah, so glad you’re you’re here. Why don’t you fill in the story for folks that don’t know or maybe aren’t following along. Maybe give us fill out the bio a little bit. Tell us a little bit about your background.Dave Ferguson — Long story short yeah, in my early mid-20s I planted a church in Chicago with a whole bunch of friends. God was very very kind to it; it grew had pretty large, and we had locations across the city and the suburbs. Out of that, then we started planting churches. Our first one was in Denver, then Southern California, and then Detroit, then New York, then Boston. And pretty soon we made a shift that we went from not only reproducing new churches, but helping reproduce networks of new churches. And that turned out to be a bigger deal than and we realized.Dave Ferguson — And we got opportunities then to do that in Europe and then in Africa. And next thing you know, fast forward 15, 20 years, and we were in 69 countries. And this will sound better than it is, but we got to help plant over 35,000 churches. Rich Birch — Yeah, it’s incredible. Dave Ferguson — And at the same time, we also started Exponential. And so all three of those things had seemed to have God’s favor on it, grew. And in the last year, I apprenticed a new lead pastor, Ted Coniaris, that you referenced, who is, I guess, recently on the podcast… Rich Birch — Yes, yes. Dave Ferguson — …and who’s doing a great job at Community.Dave Ferguson — And then then on top of that, we moved New Thing underneath Exponential. So Exponential actually acquired New Thing. And for us, that feels really good. It was pretty, pretty easy transition, but feels really good because we have something we call the 16% mission that we’re going after. And it’s starting to feel actually achievable now. Rich Birch — Yeah, it’s so cool. Dave Ferguson — So I think I think that’s all that’s all the things.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s that’s it. Just that’s it. Yeah, that’s amazing. It’s so good. And, you know, there’s a lot I respect about you and your leadership. But one of the core things I love is you’ve really given your life to multiplication. You’re focused on this idea, helping us think about and then really in the best sort of way, poking and prodding and pushing us to come back to this idea. Rich Birch — I think for many of us, the word multiplication is the kind of thing we can hear it so many times. We can kind of tune it out or it like, what does that actually mean? Aren’t we all committed to multiplication? Isn’t it, isn’t that just what it means? So why does it still matter to the church today? Really lay it on thick here. Why is multiplication such a big deal?Dave Ferguson — Yeah. I mean, two things real quick. I mean, one for every one of your listeners, if they’re involved in ministry, I mean, they want, they they’re trading their life and they want to make the greatest impact they can. And I’m telling you, when you don’t invest in multiplication, you’re short selling yourself. You’re not going to, you’re not going to get to make the kind of impact that God intended for you to, or you possibly could.Dave Ferguson — So, I mean, Let me give you a quick example, so it becomes real tangible.Dave Ferguson — So two weeks ago, I was in Long Beach, California, and I ran into Matt Larson. Matt’s a guy who did a leadership residency with us probably, man, it’s been a long time ago now, 15 years ago. So he basically came, spent a year with us at Community, really sharp leader, but he didn’t really understand how to multiply. And we kind of helped him understand how to do that. Dave Ferguson — So he does that, goes back to Ventura, California, plants Anthem Church, and they’ve planted 15 churches. Rich Birch — Wow. Wow. Dave Ferguson — So think about this and this this. And I don’t know how you keep score, but this is how I keep score with my own, how am I making a difference?Rich Birch — Yes.Dave Ferguson — So like even like if I’m taking a day off in Chicago… Rich Birch — Right. Dave Ferguson — …Matt’s still working in Ventura, California, and he’s planting churches. Rich Birch — Right. Amazing.Dave Ferguson — And I, you know, you’ve heard me probably say like my favorite quote from Bob Buford, my fruit grows in other people’s trees.Dave Ferguson — That’s what multiplication does. Rich Birch — So good.Dave Ferguson — Instead of just having one tree, you get a whole orchard. Dave Ferguson — Or Troy McMahon, who’s one of my best friends.Dave Ferguson — My wife’s getting ready to go to Kansas City to see his wife in just a few hours here.Dave Ferguson — And I mean, again, probably 15 years ago, they took 25 people who moved from Chicago to Kansas City. We blessed them and sent them with some money. They’ve gone to multiple locations.Dave Ferguson — They’ve started four networks there in Kansas City and have probably planted somewhere between 60 and 70 churches.Rich Birch — Yeah, it’s amazing.Dave Ferguson — I mean, again, if I can say it this way, like I count that.Rich Birch — Yes, yes.Dave Ferguson — I’m just telling people. So if you just want to kind of focus on just your thing, you will never, ever make the kind of impact you can if you invest in multiplication of multiplying other leaders.Rich Birch — Yeah. Dave Ferguson — And the other thing, so one, it’s in your best interest because you got this game not to make money. None of us are making any money, right?Rich Birch — Right. Sure. Yes, yes.Dave Ferguson — You got this game because you’re like, this is the best way I can make a difference. And if you’re not doing multiplication, you’re short selling yourself.Dave Ferguson — But let me add one more thing.Rich Birch — Yep.Dave Ferguson — It’s also how the mission gets accomplished. I mean, if you went into Acts 1:8, Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, ends of the earth, and Jesus said, okay, here four more guys.Dave Ferguson — Last time, before I leave, i want to shoot here’s here’s the mission, Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, ends of the earth. The only way that that’s going to happen is if there’s a movement, and movement does not happen unless there’s multiplication.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s so good. Yeah, and there’s, ah you know, one of the things I appreciate about kind of the the you and the broader exponential movement, I think you’ve helped really sharpen this conversation, tighten this up and get clarity for us, which I think is is positive.Rich Birch — And, you know, I bump into a lot of churches that are struggling, a lot of teams that are struggling with getting their their staff to be Ephesians 4 type people, people that are equipping others, that are multiplying others, that they, and there’s an interesting connection between these two, right? Somewhere we thought, oh, you could reach a bunch of people, but not actually equip anyone, which is so strange, right? It’s a strange, and actually there’s only a tiny fraction of churches that are actually multiplying today.Rich Birch — Most are only doing addition. I think this this thinking is one of the ways I think you’ve helped us sharpen this up. Why do you think that math is so stuck and kind of unpack that, help us understand, you know, the kind of the problem we’re trying to attack here.Dave Ferguson — Yeah. I think one of the things you’re referencing, so I casually talked about the 16% mission. Let me back up.Dave Ferguson — We want to see 16%, and I know your audience is bigger than the United States, but in the U.S., that’s where our exponential U.S.’s focus is. We want to see 16% of all churches in the U.S. become reproducing or multiplying churches. And that means that they’ve ever planted a church in the last three years.Dave Ferguson — When we first did the homework on this, it’s only about 4%. Now we’ve moved the needle in the last 10 years to 7%. Rich Birch — Amazing.Dave Ferguson — We think in the next five years, we can get to 10%. In the next 10 years, we can get to 16%. And 16% is kind of that tipping point. Where the of that tipping point, you get the right innovators and early adopters. They will convince the whole that this should be normative.Dave Ferguson — And that’s what we’re trying to do. So with that in mind, you’re right. So we’re still only at 7%. And I think the biggest… we’re stuck we’re stuck in an existing paradigm. We’re like fish swimming in water that um we think the best that we can do is grow a church. And I And I think candidly, here’s how I’d frame it up. I think most leaders wake up every morning asking the question, how can can grow my church?Rich Birch — Right.Dave Ferguson — How can I grow my church? And that’s a good question, but it’s not a great question. It’s not an Acts 1:8 question.Rich Birch — Right. Right.Dave Ferguson — It’s not the kind of question going allow you to maximize your impact, you know, where you’re sleeping in on a Saturday you’ve got a guy in Kansas City and you’ve got a guy in Southern California who’s planting churches. Okay.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good.Dave Ferguson — A better question is how do we multiply God’s kingdom? Rich Birch — So good.Dave Ferguson — And if and if we could get if we could get leaders to wake up every morning asking that question. Okay, and again, I and versus we, because it’s going to take us working together, not just grow, like addition, but actually multiply, multiplication, and not just my church, but actually God’s kingdom.Dave Ferguson — I mean, it’s going to make a huge difference in the kingdom. And I think, so when you get stuck in that kind of addition, like how do I grow my church, it impacts decisions you make about money… Rich Birch — Yep. Dave Ferguson — …because you’re going to go, oh, I need to keep that here. So we can you know add another you know and add another wing to our building versus like, oh, guess what? Maybe if I so if i sent that money to you know this church plant, it’s going to result in 70 churches in Kansas City.Dave Ferguson — I mean, it’s highly leveraged like venture spiritual venture capital is what it is. Rich Birch — Yeah. Dave Ferguson — It implements the decisions we make about staff. You know, we want to hold on to our best staff instead of developing them. And then some of them who actually have the capability of starting other churches and even networks, blessing them and sending them out and going like, yeah, I’m a spiritual father and these are my kids. I’m cheering them on. Dave Ferguson — So I think that’s that’s, we’re kind of stuck in this paradigm and it’s not a biblical one, but it is a paradigm that we’re stuck in.Rich Birch — Yeah. I love that. And, you know, I’ve similarly been with a lot of leadership teams where we’re in the kind of growth conversation. And I’ll come at that from ah kind of the almost the opposite end, but you end in the same place, which you end up saying, like, this box is not big enough to contain the number of people that your church is hoping to reach.Rich Birch — Like we can’t build a box big enough to do that.Rich Birch — I don’t care how much money, I don’t care how good you are at fundraising, you can’t do that. So we have to multiply. If you really think that we are trying to reach and make an impact in our community, if there’s so many churches say, we’re for whatever city we’re in, we’re for Chicago, we’re for whatever.Rich Birch — If you’re really for that, then you have to be by definition for multiplication and for other churches and for seeing, you know, this thing multiplying out. We can’t, we can’t get them all to come here. That’s never going to work. That’s just, it doesn’t work at all.Dave Ferguson — And here’s thing you can, though, do. I mean, you’re right. If it’s just about their butts in your seats, whatever. But if it’s about you bringing them and equipping them and then sending them out, oh, that’s highly leveraged. And that could be a really good use of a building or facility.Rich Birch — Right, right. Yeah, absolutely. That’s good. So, so much of this conversation, you know, I want to tap in your expertise. We’ve got a lot of lot of executive pastors listening in. You know, you have been in the one of the multiple seats you’ve sat in has been the kind of lead pastor seat. And let’s talk to some XPs from your perspective as as a you know a lead pastor around this area.Dave Ferguson — Oh, good. Those are the people actually the stuff done. They’re not just the top. These are the executors.Rich Birch — But let’s let’s think that through. So vision isn’t just about getting up on Sunday and preaching about it. You’ve actually led organizations that have done this stuff. And you know you’ve you’ve cast a compelling vision, but then have seen the organizations actually go out and make this stuff happen. So we think about it from our seat as an executive pastor. What is the executive pastor? Where do we actually come into play in this thing? What’s our piece of the puzzle? How can we help kind of move this thing forward at an operational level? You you named a couple of things, money, staffing. Help us think through that.Dave Ferguson — and And the assumption here is, okay, so the lead pastor is pro-multiplication, and now you have to execute the vision.Rich Birch — Yeah.Dave Ferguson — I I think one of the things, grab a hold of how do we create ah a multiplication culture? Because if you can create a multiplication in culture, you will literally become, people in your church will become unconsciously competent.Dave Ferguson — I’m thinking of a real quick story. A friend of mine named Doug. Doug was a guy who was nominally involved at Community. All right. Long story short, only because his wife insisted he joined a small group that Sue and I were leading. Now I didn’t have an apprentice leader in that small group, which is which is not good, okay? That’s how you don’t create a culture.Dave Ferguson — But we went through six weeks and I went up to Doug and I said, I told him, I said, hey… And actually said in front of the whole group because he’s the kind of guy I could do this to. I said, hey, I know this group would like to continue, but we can’t continue unless we have an apprentice leader.Rich Birch — Nice.Dave Ferguson — And I said, Doug, will you be my apprentice leader?Rich Birch — That’s great. Dave Ferguson — He’s kind of like you. Rich Birch — Yeah. Dave Ferguson — Big guy with a bald head. Beads his sweat or popping on top of his head. He says, all right, I’ll do it, I’ll do it, I’ll do it. Rich Birch — Right. Dave Ferguson — So he he agrees to be my apprentice leader. So I start meeting with him because the group was on Wednesdays. I’d meet with him on Tuesdays at Starbucks around 4 o’clock as he’d finish up work. And we’d kind of…And I remember his first question to me was like, hey, so if I’m going to be an apprentice leader, I should read the Bible, I guess, right?Dave Ferguson — I’m like, yeah, you probably should.Rich Birch — Yes, it’s a good starting point.Dave Ferguson — And so I told him how I how I do it. But over the course of the next 14 months or so, um you know, I basically apprenticed him through what we call the the five steps.Dave Ferguson — And here’s here’s the fun part of this story. OK, so Doug didn’t have much of a church background.Dave Ferguson — So he gets to the place where he thinks he’s ready to lead a group. And I think he’s ready, which people ask me a lot. how do you know when a leader is ready? I think it’s really that it’s that simple when they think they’re ready and you think they’re ready, they’re ready. And so I said, okay, why don’t you take over this group? It’ll be easy for me to go start a new group. You take… And he he said, okay. Dave Ferguson — I come back, like two or three weeks later, to Starbucks on Tuesday at 4 o’clock, sitting at the exact same table where we would always sit was Doug and his brand new apprentice, Tim.Rich Birch — Love it.Dave Ferguson — And so Doug was like unconsciously competent. He was like, oh, I thought I thought every church in America did that. I thought that’s how it works. I didn’t know I had a choice.Rich Birch — Yes, yes.Dave Ferguson — And if you create a culture of multiplication, that’s what will happen over and over and over again.Rich Birch — Yeah, I love that. Well, and and yeah, what a vivid picture. And, you know, we’ve got to move our our people and our systems towards, you know, continuing to multiply at every level. When you think about a church that’s stuck and it maybe is is just focusing on addition. They’re really in that, but they they have a desire to want to multiply.Rich Birch — Is your recommendation, or maybe what you’ve seen happen, the churches that have actually made that pivot towards multiplication, is it like a ground up thing? Like we start with, man, we’ve got to get all of our, you know, all of our team leaders get an apprentice, let’s go there. And then we’ll trickle up through the organization, which then leads to the conclusion. Oh, by the way, we’re going to have to, we’re going to multiply because we’ve kind of built this culture.Rich Birch — Or, is it better to go or or maybe there’s advantages to go one way or the other from the kind of the, hey, we’re going to declare this and that’s going to kind of pull us towards multiplication. Do you understand what I’m saying? Ground up or we cast a vision to pull towards it.Dave Ferguson — Yeah. And creating the culture.Rich Birch — Yeah, yeah. In creating the culture, yeah.Dave Ferguson — If you haven’t, if you, if you don’t currently have that kind of culture, here’s what I would encourage leaders to do. I do think it does start at the top with like the lead pastor and the executive pastor.Dave Ferguson — And I encourage leaders at every level. I said, lead at the smallest level of your organization and lead at the largest level and you train and trust everybody in between.Rich Birch — Oh, that’s good. That’s good.Dave Ferguson — You want, and so for, I mean, all, whatever it was, 30 some years at Community, I always led a small group and I tried to always have an apprentice leader. So you need to do that.Rich Birch — Right.Dave Ferguson — And if you can get, okay. And I think there was a moment where you declare, Hey, this is who we are. And you need to decide if you want to buy in or not. You’re firm, but kind about that. Rich Birch — Yep.Dave Ferguson — And if you can get all of your staff, plus all the people that you consider as leaders and key influencers, which is probably somewhere around 16 to 20% of your total church. You get them bought into it.Dave Ferguson — Once you get them bought into it, and it’ll probably take you a year and they’re actually doing this stuff. Then you preach a sermon on it. Then you start casting vision on it. Then you declare it for the whole, because what will happen is that, again, kind of back to that innovators and early adopters. When they’re in the lobby and somebody comes them and goes like, hey, what do you think about this idea of apprenticeship? And we’re all going to have apprentices or multiply. They’ll already have been done it. They’ll have done it for a year.Dave Ferguson — And they’ll be like, oh, yeah, I think this is awesome. And that’s exactly what you want.Rich Birch — Right.Dave Ferguson — Does that make sense? Rich Birch — Yeah, it makes total sense. Yeah. And even what you’re doing.Dave Ferguson — I guess I’m questioning if you’re ready to make that shift, I wouldn’t preach a sermon on it first, because what they’re going to do is if you’re preaching a sermon on it and you’re not doing this stuff, what happens is you implicitly and almost accidentally create a culture that says, oh, I don’t actually have to do this stuff because the guy who’s casting the vision only talks about it and doesn’t actually do it. And so you create that culture, which is what we have a lot of.Rich Birch — Yeah, yeah, I for sure I’ve seen a lot of that in, you know, in the churches I’ve been a part of, even with stuff like ah the fact that you, you know, were leading in a group, you know, I’ve I’ve seen a number, not necessarily the lead pastors I’ve worked for, but in churches where there’s like the lead pastor, they like elevate themselves out of that kind of thing. And they’re like Oh, I don’t need to interact with normal people. And, and that comes out, you know, I’ve, cause I’ve said it all the time to lead pastors. I’m like, even simply like, I would way rather you that just leak out of you that you’re, that you’re apprenticing a leader in a small group.Rich Birch — Then, then we have some big thing on why apprenticing is important because people will catch the the small little things, the little breadcrumbs here and there. They’ll catch that at a more powerful level than the big, let’s put a, let’s get a brand name, stick it on a wall, you know, kind of thing. That’s cool. That’s great.Dave Ferguson — It’ll but end up in your sermons, it’ll end sidebars, hallway conversations. Here’s one of my favorite examples. You know, Nicky Gumbel, right?Rich Birch — Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.Dave Ferguson — So Nicky’s the guy who previously was the vicar at Holy Trinity Brompton. He was really the guy who kind of really brought out Alpha… Rich Birch — Yeah. Dave Ferguson — …which you might say is, I mean, right there with Billy Graham and the Apostle Paul… Rich Birch — Yeah, Oh, absolutely. 100%. Dave Ferguson — …greatest evangelistic tools that we’ve ever had.Rich Birch — Yes. 100%.Dave Ferguson — One of the things I love about Nicky is I don’t know how exactly how many years, it’s probably been 40 years. Every semester for 40 years, he always leads an Alpha course.Rich Birch — Yes. Yes.Dave Ferguson — There’s a reason they have such a strong culture and so powerful. Rich Birch — Yes.Dave Ferguson — And that’s a big mistake. I mean, I think as, you know, we’ve planted church and starts to grow. And we’re trying to figure out, what can I do and what shouldn’t I do? And one of the first things that goes, oh well, I just won’t lead a small group anymore. I won’t lead a missional community anymore. Whatever is that smallest organizing principle is, you want to hold on to that. Train and trust everybody else to do everything in between. Rich Birch — That’s very good.Dave Ferguson — And as you continue to grow and scale, yeah, influence way out there. But but Ii’ll hold on to this too.Rich Birch — Yeah, continuing to shout out Nikki, I just think the world of Alpha… Dave Ferguson — I do too. Rich Birch — …and it’s been so effective for our our church. And I had an opportunity to interact with him right in the teeth of COVID. I was doing an interview with him. And he, we were talking about some stuff and i it really marked, it was one of those like you lean forward and you’re like, okay, that’s interesting.Rich Birch — He was talking about how he’s like, you know, for years, the meal is a big deal for for Alpha and like, you know, hospitality is a big deal for that. And he said, I was always critical of people that did Alpha online. He’s like, I was always critical of people doing it over Zoom and was like, I would say you can’t do it over Zoom. You can’t do it over Zoom.Rich Birch — And he said, obviously people did it over Zoom and I wasn’t stopping them, but I was, I poo-pooed it. Well, then well then COVID came. And he said exactly what you said. I’m still leading alpha courses and our Apha groups. And so I’m in an Alpha group. And what do you know? This is amazing. God works through this. Rich Birch — And so I was really struck by that, that he as a leader would have the humility to say, hey, I was wrong, but I’m enough in the weeds of this thing to understand, okay, what are the actual implications for our ministry? I think that’s a huge lesson for us to pull away.Dave Ferguson — Well, I mean, two things…Rich Birch — And yeah, I think it’s 35 million people they put through that. Yeah.Dave Ferguson — My thought is two things. One, is I remember that podcast. So thank you very much. I remember going, listening to him. And and and excuse me. And it shaped a lot of the ways I even thought about COVID from hearing from him on that.Dave Ferguson — But I think I think this the second thing is, I think what you were kind of replying to, you have to be in the weeds… Rich Birch — Yes. Dave Ferguson — …in order to know how the next innovation is going to happen. I mean, if if he wasn’t doing that, he would have kept with his assumption, no, it’s not going to work and maybe made a lot of bad choices.Rich Birch — Right, right. And we would end up in ah yeah and a very tough spot today. In a lot of ways, that that ministry continues to accelerate… Dave Ferguson — Oh, yeah. Rich Birch — …or that movement really continues to accelerate ah you know in these years, which is amazing.Rich Birch — So one of the things let’s talk about, so one of the things I’ve heard you say is that you really build the case that multiplication has to be built on health, not on hustle. And you know there was a previous generation that was really valued like we wanted leaders. We didn’t want leaders that were burnt out, but we wanted them one step back from being burnt out. We wanted them like right there, right at the line. But what, you know, but I know that’s not what you’re advocating for. But it but I think sometimes our teams, our people, our cultures can look at this and say, this feels like one more thing to do.Rich Birch — So what why does this distinction of health, not hustle, how does that factor in when we’re thinking about actually trying to become a multiplying organization when we’re, you know, we’ve got lots of other stuff to carry as we’re thinking about it. Help us understand that.Dave Ferguson — My experience, particularly working with church planters and other leaders, is they aren’t afraid to hustle. Rich Birch — Right.Dave Ferguson — And in fact, that’s our default position, that I that I will I can maybe outwork the next person. And they’re willing to do it for it for a good cause. But even though we are willing to that, it actually gives us the wrong result. Because if we only hustle more, if only work more, you’re not going to make the impact you could, like I’ve already described, if you’re multiplying more. So I am constantly encouraging leaders, don’t work more, multiply more. Don’t work more, multiply more. And that’s how you make the biggest impact. Dave Ferguson — The other part of that, which is really important, I kind of have a conviction. We knew that we need to try to do the Jesus mission the Jesus way.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good.Dave Ferguson — We want to do the Jesus mission, the Jesus way. And I think that has to do with, no, I’m going to try to i’m gonna try to be a great dad. I want to try to be a great husband. I want to try to be a good steward of this body that I have. I want to pay attention to what my thought life, I want to pay attention to my anxiety and and and and levels and and am I feeling depressed? I want to make sure I’m okay spiritually.Dave Ferguson — And I think if we’re doing those kinds of things, we’re checking what I call these four gauges, I think will be healthy leaders.Dave Ferguson — And here’s the axiom that I have kind of led by, especially over the last couple decades, is that you will reproduce who you are and what you do.Rich Birch — Yes. Right.Dave Ferguson — So if if if you want to reproduce unhealth, then be unhealthy. But like if you really want, if you want the, if you want the, the guys in your church to be really good dads. You don’t have to be a perfect dad, but just put in the effort and let them know that you’re also putting in the effort.Rich Birch — Right.Dave Ferguson — If you want to be a you want people to be you know really good spouses, then try to be that yourself. Because you’re going to reproduce who you are and what you do.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s so good. I really appreciate that you’re you know that you’re pressing on these issues. I think this is a a critical thing you know for us, and particularly as we, you know I’m in a phase of my ministry where looking on to like, okay, how am I handing this stuff off?Rich Birch — What am I doing to try to help the next generation? And man, I would love the next generation to, I think one of the things that particularly Gen Z leaders are attuned to is they seem to be naturally attuned to like, we’re not going to like drive over a cliff for this thing. We want to do this in a healthy manner. Rich Birch — And and you’re not obviously, you know, you’re highly productive. You get a lot done and Exponential is a highly productive organization. You do a lot. But we want to do it—I like that—you were saying, you know, the Jesus mission, in the Jesus way. That’s actually at the heart of your most recent book Multiplier. Rich Birch — You talk, you kind of referenced these four gauges. Can you unpack that a little bit more at a high level? Help us understand what are the four gauges? And what were you hoping with this book? Why, why another book? Why is this one? What are you hoping this accomplishes for churches?Dave Ferguson — I think there’s a lot of great content out there about personal health, emotional health, how to have a rule of life, that kind of stuff. And we and we need to avail ourselves to it. I think there’s also a lot of great stuff and some of it that I’ve helped contribute to around how do you multiply? How do you you know develop leaders? How do you hero making? All that kind of stuff.Dave Ferguson — What I tried to do in this book though is show how those are so interconnected. Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good. Dave Ferguson — That if you really want to do this for a long time, and that’s how you make the biggest impact, it’s only going to come if you’re a healthy leader, because again, you reproduce who you are.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good.Dave Ferguson — And so what we do is we kind of, we, we, we talk about the problem and the problem that all of us face, in the first couple of chapters, is what I call drift.Dave Ferguson — And we drift because…maybe frame it this way. I’ve never had a conversation with a young leader who tells me, hey, 15 years from now, here’s my dream: I hope I’m 50 pounds overweight and divorced and compromising my core convictions.Rich Birch — That’s so true.Dave Ferguson — I’ve never had that conversation. Rich Birch — Right.Dave Ferguson — But we read about it almost every week. And I sometimes share the story. I mean, I was in a small group with some of the most influential pastors, maybe in the world, but definitely in Chicago for about eight or nine years. If I tried to reassemble that group today, half the seats would be empty.Dave Ferguson — And I don’t think it’s, and I think it’s because they, they drifted and they unintentionally ended up someplace they never intended to be.Rich Birch — Right. Right.Rich Birch — Dave Ferguson — They didn’t intend to end up, you know, in a hotel room with a woman that wasn’t plan A, when they planted a church. Rich Birch — Right. Dave Ferguson — Or to create a toxic culture, which really benefited them more than other people i don’t think that was like the, the goal from the very beginning. Does that make sense? Rich Birch — Yeah, absolutely.Dave Ferguson — And I think what happens is we incrementally, we drift a little bit of time until, you know, in a variety of ways, we end up someplace we never intended to be. So one of the things that I do, I’ll I'll just, maybe I’ll show you here too. I know, this is, this is, I’ll just show you. And I don’t, I know we’re not doing anything on video. I don’t think, but this is, this is kind of, this is my journal.Rich Birch — Yeah.Dave Ferguson — Oh, that’s one from like December. Wow. That’s old. There we go. There we go. That’s actually yesterday. And so like, I just write these four letters, RPMS in my journal almost every day.Dave Ferguson — And R stands for relational. How are things with Sue, the kids, my friends?Dave Ferguson — P stands for physical. How am I doing stewarding this body? For me, it’s a trip the fitness center or out running on the prairie path. Dave Ferguson — How am I doing mentally, which has to do with kind of stress or anxiety or thought life?Dave Ferguson — And then how am I doing spiritually? What’s going on between me and God? Dave Ferguson — And then so I just make a little gauge here and I kind of just, where am I? Where am I? And then I actually go ahead and give myself, I like to keep score. If we got executive pastors, they’ll like this. You should keep score.Rich Birch — Yeah, they like numbers. Stuff that ends up on spreadsheets. It’s good.Dave Ferguson — So you can see, like, so I gave myself a score for each of those on a scale of 1 to 10, then a composite, which was 5, which was actually down from 5.25 the day before. And I think that’s because, as you can kind of hear, I got a little bit of a cold, so I’m not feeling well.Dave Ferguson — And, but I, I try to do this every day. And I encourage leaders, those four gauges, relational, physical, mental, spiritual. If you’ll just spend four minutes every day…Rich Birch — That’s so good.Dave Ferguson — …reflecting on those four areas prayerfully, how am I doing relationally? How am I doing physically? How am I doing mentally? How doing spiritually? You’re going to drift. We all drift, but here’s the thing. You’re not going to go a whole month or a whole year or a decade and and suddenly wake up, you know, and someone’s dragging you into court and you’re going like, how in the world did I end up here?Rich Birch — Yeah, I think this is…Dave Ferguson — And so… Rich Birch — Yeah, I would just want to… Dave Ferguson — …it’s hopefully it’s a very, very practical tool for here’s how you can do this every day. And and let me throw this in Rich too, because I want to make sure I hit this. And then if you can do it in community… Rich Birch — Yes. Dave Ferguson — …that’ll way mitigate how much you lie to yourself.Rich Birch — Yes.Dave Ferguson — t’s like if a small group or a missional community every week, just checking in or once a month with another group that you’re you’re working with, I think that if you do that, it’s not foolproof, but it’ll be a big, big, big help.Rich Birch — Yeah. Yeah. The human, uh, human propensity for self-delusion is incredible, right? Like our ability to like become, to lie to ourselves, let alone other people is amazing. You know, I, I want to just honor you for, I think, you know, I, obviously I saw it Exponential this year where you’ve been rolling it out. I’ve, I’ve, I haven’t read the entire book yet, but I’ve read a bunch of it. And I really appreciate that at this phase in your, journey, you’re raising this flag, I think, and connecting it so, you know, integrally to the multiplier, the multiplication mission. I think that is so critically important because we, you know, we’ve seen those leaders who make a series of foolish, unwise decisions that ultimately end up in a tragic spot.Rich Birch — And oftentimes it’s like, I don’t know what to say to people. How do you avoid that? And I like that you have, you’ve put together a framework here to help us think that. Now, as you’ve rolled the book out to folks…Dave Ferguson — How old you how old are you, Rich?Rich Birch — 52.Dave Ferguson — 52. Rich Birch — Yes. Dave Ferguson — Okay. Like, I’m convinced God’s probably got at least another 20 years… Rich Birch — Sure. Dave Ferguson — …you know, and ah and in some ways it’ll probably be your highest impact years.Rich Birch — Yep. Yep.Dave Ferguson — But if one of these gauges goes way south and takes you out, like there’s 20 of the best years of difference-making that we don’t get from Rich Birch. And it’s not just Rich Birch. Every one of the people listening to the podcast. I mean, I think there’s a whole bunch of people that God goes like, no, I got 75 years or 80 years of difference making. And let’s do the whole run.Rich Birch — Yeah. No, I appreciate that. That’s why I think it’s, it’s I'm not doing a good way I’m not doing a good job articulating. I think it’s a gift that you’ve given to the church because you’re helping us actually attack this problem in a really super practical, good way that that I can see it making a huge difference.Rich Birch — And I would agree with you. I think what I realized after being however many decades in ministry, there’s like a real cumulative effect here that it’s like, you know, each decade, I thought things were great in my thirties and then I hit my forties and now I’m in my fifties.Rich Birch — I’m like, oh my goodness, there’s and and sometimes people will say, they’ll they’ll ask you know kind of questions like, you know hey, how do you basically, you know how do you do what you do or whatever? And a part of I’m like, well, you just stay in it. Like you just keep doing it, right? And stay in the game and stay plugged in and yeah.Dave Ferguson — And the and the longer your influence continues to grow, I mean, like, in the kindest, humble way, if Rich Birch emails somebody, you respond. Rich Birch — Right. Yeah, that’s kind.Dave Ferguson — Because I mean, you’ve put in so much time you mean now that you you’re able to get things done that quicker than you couldn’t before because people know who you are, they’re interested in what you’re doing, right?Rich Birch — Yeah. Yeah, it’s true.Dave Ferguson — And I think that’s true with all of us. Our influence will just continue to grow if we stay faithful to this.Rich Birch — Yeah, it’s great. So I want to, I’m going to, we’re going to talk about where you can get the book in a minute, but just before we get there, of the four, this book’s been out now for a while and it’s out in the world. It’s, you know, as an author, I know that’s a very different experience. You go from writing and then it goes out there and then people react to it.Rich Birch — Are there any of those four gauges that you’ve been surprised by the reaction or you’ve noted the reaction? Like, oh, that’s interesting. I’m hearing from people or I’ve seen, you know, maybe it’s a conversation or that sort of thing that any four of those have kind of bubbled up in in discussion.Dave Ferguson — I think the one, I think that’s what surprised me so far in the conversation is how important the physical gauge, how, how underestimated it is and how important it is.Rich Birch — Oh, interesting. Tell me more.Dave Ferguson — I was just, I was just in a conversation this morning with somebody who’s telling me that he’s really been working on these four gauges and for him in the last year’s dropped 40 pounds. And he’s like, it has, it has really shifted my influence, my, my leadership.Dave Ferguson — He said, I just, I feel more confident walking into a room. And I, yeah, I think probably as Christian leaders, we probably downplay that one the most. And I'm I am surprised.Rich Birch — Right.Dave Ferguson — I’m not saying it’s the most important of the four… Rich Birch — No. Yeah. Dave Ferguson — …but I am surprised how important it is and the feedback I’m getting on it.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good. I can see that. I can see that for sure.Dave Ferguson — Yeah, I mean we’re whole people.Rich Birch — Yeah, absolutely. And I, you know, the, the days I ride that Peloton in the morning, I’m better at, I’m a better husband those days. I’m a better, you know, it’s, it just works out, which is, yeah, that’s really cool.Rich Birch — All right. So we want to, so when I, as I’ve been going through this, what I’ve been struck by is, man, I think this could be a real gift for our team’s to go through together. i think this could be a great tool for our staff teams. Maybe if I’m an executive pastor, it’s like, Hey, what if we went through this with our senior leaders first? And then maybe we roll it out to our teams or something like that. Where can people pick up copies of this book? Where do we want to send them online to get them? I’m assuming Amazon. Is there anywhere else we want to send them?Dave Ferguson — You know what? Let me give you two things that comes to mind. One is if they’re ready to make a commitment, say, hey, I want to be a multiplier. If you go exponential.org/multiplier, exponential.org/multiplier, there’s a place there where you can say, hey, I want to be a multiplier.Dave Ferguson — We’ll explain how you can be involved in meetups and cohorts and resource. We actually have a multiplier digital check-in. So you can actually do this online every day, that kind of stuff. So that’s one place that would be, I think, really fun.Dave Ferguson — But you’re right, um a lot of people are using it as a book to go over with their with their staff or with their teams or even their networks. And if they’re going to get, I think it’s like six or seven or more, maybe it’s a dozen, somewhere in that neighborhood, you’re going to get more than few, go ahead and email me and I’ll tell you you get a bulk discount. And that’s dave@exponential.orgRich Birch — Great.Dave Ferguson — dave@exponential.org – Say, hey, I’m going to do this with my team. How can I get a bulk discount? And my assistant, Sarah or me, will get back to you and let you know how you can do that.Rich Birch — Yes, that’s fantastic. Friends, I don’t say this with every author that comes on, but I really, I would highly endorse, would recommend that you do that. I think this could be the book you should pick up maybe this summer, read it by yourself, read it with a small group of people. I do think this could be, I think it’s a critical resource. I think it’s, I think this is more than just like, hey, it’s another book. You know, I think there’s a real potential here for this to shift the conversation in a really positive way in the broader church. So I would love more people to pick it up. Well, Dave, this has been incredible. I really appreciate you being here today. Any final words as we kind of land today’s episode?Dave Ferguson — I would probably come back to, if I was going leave people with one thought, is just just remember that you’re going to reproduce who you are and what you do.Rich Birch — So good. Appreciate you, Dave. Thanks so much. We want to send people to exponential.org. Is there anywhere else online we want them to go if they want to track with you or with the movement or anything like that?Dave Ferguson — I mean um I’m on most of the socials, so you can follow me there. DaveFerguson.org, DaveFerguson.org, if, you know, for some reason you want me to speak or do something or find other books that I’ve written.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s great. Thanks for being here today, sir. Appreciate that.Dave Ferguson — Hey, my pleasure.

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In this episode, Caleb Jones challenges common narratives around modern dating by breaking down the difference between acknowledging increased difficulty and using it as an excuse for inaction. He outlines a clear framework that encourages men to take responsibility, put in the necessary effort, and pursue results rather than adopting a defeatist mindset.

In this episode of Public Health Epidemiology Conversations, Dr. Huntley sits down with Susan Polan, PhD, Associate Executive Director for Public Affairs and Advocacy at the American Public Health Association, for an inside look at what it means to fight for public health in today's political climate. From managing six simultaneous lawsuits, a historic moment for APHA, to navigating federal policy battles and protecting critical public health funding, Dr. Polan shares the realities of advocacy at the national level. She also discusses the growing need for public health professionals to step beyond research and into policy conversations that shape real-world outcomes. The conversation highlights APHA's Policy Action Institute, a training experience designed to help public health professionals translate science into messages that resonate with lawmakers and communities alike. Most importantly, Dr. Polan offers a powerful reminder: your voice matters more than you think. Every call, email, and conversation with policymakers counts and public health professionals have the expertise needed to influence the decisions that impact communities every day. If you've ever wondered how policy change really happens, and where you fit into the process, this episode offers both clarity and a call to action.   Resources ▶️ Join the PHEC Podcast Community ▶️ Visit the PHEC Podcast Show Notes ▶️ DrCHHuntley, Public Health & Epidemiology Consulting

Welcome to the Pharmacy Podcast Network's special 3-Part series on the coverage of the American Pharmacist Association's Annual Conference event held in Los Angeles, California on March 27-31st. In this series, you'll hear from 4 key social media influencers having a massive impact on Pharmacy Advocacy, innovators exploring the advancing technology and use of AI in Pharmacy, and more! In this episode, we hear from: Stephen Beckman - Yaral Pharma Kati Forbes, PharmD Robbie Abasi, PharmD, Xavier Hill, PharmD, and Sam Llona, PharmD - RxRated Podcast Katlyn - Student at University of Montanna Sakhi Gaurang Patel - CuraVoice   Thank you to Yaral Pharma and the Independent Pharmacy Cooperative (IPC) for sponsoring this episode!  

Welcome to the Pharmacy Podcast Network's special 3-Part series on the coverage of the American Pharmacist Association's Annual Conference event held in Los Angeles, California on March 27-31st. In this series, you'll hear from 4 key social media influencers having a massive impact on Pharmacy Advocacy, innovators exploring the advancing technology and use of AI in Pharmacy, and more! In this episode, we hear from: Kelli Stovall, RPh, EMBA, - IPC Amantha Bagdon - RxPost Dixie Leikach - PeerRx Dr Erin Parsons, PharmD - LSPedia Sally Rafie, PharmD Thank you to Independent Pharmacy Cooperative (IPC) for sponsoring this episode!

Welcome to the Pharmacy Podcast Network's special 3-Part series on the coverage of the American Pharmacist Association's Annual Conference event held in Los Angeles, California on March 27-31st. In this series, you'll hear from 4 key social media influencers having a massive impact on Pharmacy Advocacy, innovators exploring the advancing technology and use of AI in Pharmacy, and more! In this episode, we hear from: Jeffrey Gonzales - APhA Board Maurice Shaw, PharmD & Shane Jerominski, PharmD Richard Dang, PharmD Marsha Millonig, Rph Walter Oronsaye, PharmD, MS Thank you to YARAL Pharma for sponsoring this episode!

The American Public Health Association was formed in 1872, when scientific advances were starting to reveal the causes of contagious diseases. For over 150 years, the APHA has championed “optimal, equitable health and well-being for all,” and in 1995, President Bill Clinton signed an executive order declaring that the first full week of April each year would be National Public Health Week – a celebration organized annually by the APHA. In 2026, National Public Health Week will be celebrated April 6 through 12. This year's theme is “Ready. Set. Action!” The APHA is asking people to “look back at the progress we've made” and “look forward to the steps needed for an even healthier future.” We'll request the same of Bernadette Boden-Albala in this episode of The UC Irvine Podcast. In a wide-ranging conversation, the founding dean of the Joe C. Wen School of Population & Public Health reflects on the transformations she's witnessed since arriving at UC Irvine in 2019 and what it will take for health and well-being to thrive. She shares insights from her latest research on stroke and cardiovascular disease, the role of social networks in disease prevention, and how community partnerships – paired with stronger advocacy for science and investment in women's health – can improve health outcomes for everyone. “Rising Sun,” the music for this episode, was provided by DivKid via the audio library in YouTube Studio.

Host Erin Michael welcomes Adrianna Rodriguez, CPhT, Non-Sterile Lead Technician at Strive Pharmacy in San Antonio, Texas, for an inspiring conversation about pharmacy technician excellence and the evolution of the profession.   In this episode, Adrianna covers: Her journey from high school dropout to certified pharmacy technician and compounding leader Transitioning from retail pharmacy (Walgreens) to specialty compounding Leading non-sterile compounding operations at one of the fastest-growing pharmacies in the country Quality assurance: triple-checking processes, USP 795/800 compliance, and minimum weighable quantities Creating custom formulations including suppositories, capsules, topical compounds, and rapid-dissolve tablets Why "just a technician" doesn't exist—and the expanding scope of pharmacy technician practice Staying current with continuing education through PCCA, APhA, NPTA, and industry newsletters Her memorable patient impact story: creating a custom prednisone tablet troche for a pediatric patient Additional Links:   PATH: PccarxPCCA Tech Summit    PCCA Core Compounding training: PccarxPCCA CORE Compounding   PCCA Technician Summit/Symposium : AppleLive from the 2025 PCCA Technician Summit with Tiffany Kofroth, CSPT, CPhT-Adv & Mindy Stephens    April 29-30 PCCA Compounding Technician Summit: PccarxPCCA Tech Summit   Past Episodes: AppleCommon USP 800 Questions and Misconceptions with Matt Martin   AppleThe New USP 795 with A.J. Day & Matt Martin   AppleTech Talk: Mike Johnston the Accidental Technician

Dr. JAM can be found on LinkedIn.Stay tuned for Pharmacy Times' coverage of APhA 2026 in LA. It can all be found here.

Here Be Dragons: Lenten Meditations on the Silence and Darkness of God Bishop Michael Hunn introduces a series of three meditations titled "Here Be Dragons," focusing on Lent, the silence and darkness of God, and wilderness times, and exploring the APHA tradition of theology as a way of speaking about God when there is little to say. The meditations are designed as an audible experience available on both podcast and YouTube, with simple visuals, and listeners are invited to settle in with coffee or tea, perhaps light a candle, and pray along. The speaker offers gratitude to the seminarians and faculty of the Seminary of Sewanee, University of the South, who invited the meditations and first prayed them together on Ash Wednesday 2026, and also to the clergy of the Diocese of the Rio Grande, with the hope that the meditations will be edifying and support a holy Lent. 00:00 Lenten Meditation Series 00:13 Here Be Dragons Theme 00:26 How to Listen and Pray 00:54 Gratitude and Dedication 01:22 Closing Blessing for Lent

Send us a textEver wonder if there's a smarter path to the show ring than buying a horse outright? We open the barn door on leasing—how it works, why fit matters more than flash, and what happens when a trusted trainer pairs a talented mare with the right rider. Nora shares Mercedes' leap from a new program to all-around wins and Congress placings in a few short months, and we break down the nuts and bolts: care leases, amateur eligibility with AQHA and APHA, and the private contracts that protect everyone when the unexpected hits.The story doesn't end at the rail. We talk about starting or restarting a horse life later on and why age is a detail, not a deadline. Janine's decision to buy at 75 becomes a blueprint for courage: learn the basics, lean on a community, and choose joy even if the calendar disagrees. We also tackle the practical side of ownership—budgeting beyond the purchase price, major medical and colic insurance, boarding expectations, and the seller red flags you should never ignore. If the horse doesn't feel like your favorite pair of jeans, you don't have to force the fit.Training with music is our secret weapon for better rides. By matching gait to rhythm, riders relax, transitions smooth out, and lateral work turns into a dance rather than a debate. Use ballads to soften and settle, then bring in mid-tempo tracks for bend and contact before lifting energy with upbeat playlists for extension and forward. It's a simple shift that builds feel faster than any lecture.Whether you're exploring a lease, eyeing your first purchase, or finding your way back to the barn, this conversation blends heart and hard-won horse sense. If it gave you clarity—or courage—subscribe, share it with a barn friend, and leave a review so more riders can find the show. What's the next step in your horse journey?Support the showMay all your blues be ribbons

ASHP co-hosted an invitational summit with APhA and NABP in June 2025 to discuss workplace and well-being issues in the pharmacy workforce. In this episode, two attendees reflect on the experience and the actions of their organizations to improve the pharmacy workplace and discuss the newly released report on the 2025 Implementing Solutions summit. Learn about the new workforce summit report and actionable solutions for well-being that can implemented within an organization. The information presented during the podcast reflects solely the opinions of the presenter. The information and materials are not, and are not intended as, a comprehensive source of drug information on this topic. The contents of the podcast have not been reviewed by ASHP, and should neither be interpreted as the official policies of ASHP, nor an endorsement of any product(s), nor should they be considered as a substitute for the professional judgment of the pharmacist or physician.

On todays episode, our host Hope is joined by Dr. Allison Hill. Dr. Allison Hill is the Director of Practice Implementation & Professional Affairs at American Pharmacists Association where she leads initiatives that advance sustainable pharmacist's patient care services. Her portfolio includes vaccines as she represents APhA on numerous immunization coalitions and workgroups. Prior to Allison's current role, her practice experience includes over ten years in community pharmacy.

In recent months, public health advocates in the United States have raised concerns about proposed changes to vaccine policy, cuts to food assistance programs, rollbacks of environmental protections and reductions in public health staffing. Chief among them has been Dr. Georges Benjamin who, as executive director of the American Public Health Association (APHA) since 2002, has led national efforts to create a healthier America. Raise the Line host Lindsey Smith recently sat down with Dr. Benjamin to understand more about the current state of public health and explore the path forward, and learned that a top priority for APHA is battling the misinformation that Dr. Benjamin believes is fueling support for many of these changes. “The challenge we have right now is that as a society, we've gone into our little corners and live in our own ecosystems. More people are getting their information from a single source and they're not validating that information to make sure that it's true.” Tune into this thoughtful and timely conversation to hear Dr. Benjamin's advice for curbing the spread of misinformation, how APHA is trying to help people understand the value of public health initiatives, and what the U.S. can learn from other countries about improving public health. Mentioned in this episode:American Public Health Association If you like this podcast, please share it on your social channels. You can also subscribe to the series and check out all of our episodes at www.osmosis.org/podcast

This episode kicks off a two-part series with Rhett Jones, an Alpha graduate and entrepreneur who launched his first business while still in high school. Through Alpha's Masterpiece Program, Rhett set out to build a professional bike park during his senior year- a project that pushed him to raise $350K in just eight weeks, hire a crew of 10 full-time builders, and spend months managing the on-site construction. Today, that bike park is a thriving success, drawing media attention and becoming a popular destination in the community. Rhett's story is a powerful example of how Alpha empowers students to set audacious goals, gain real-world experience, and graduate ready to run their own ventures. You won't want to miss this series!!

This week on Taking The Pulse, Heather and Matthew are joined by one of the nation's leading voices in public health: Dr. Georges Benjamin, Executive Director of the American Public Health Association (APHA). With over two decades of leadership at the APHA, Dr. Benjamin shares how the organization is advocating for Medicaid access, preparing for future health emergencies, and working to rebuild public trust in the wake of COVID-19. We dive into the impact of the “Big Beautiful Bill,” the challenges of vaccine skepticism, and how the APHA is mobilizing thousands of public health professionals to make public health a top national priority. Tune in now!

In a live conversation on YouTube, Lawfare Editor in Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare Senior Editors Anna Bower, and Roger Parloff, and Lawfare contributor James Pearce to discuss the FBI's execution of a search warrant at John Bolton's house, a federal judge ruling that Alina Habba was unlawfully serving as a U.S. attorney for New Jersey, Kilmar Abrego Garcia's motion to dismiss his indictment for selective prosecution and his return to Maryland, a decision voiding the fine in the civil fraud case against President Trump, the Supreme Court's ruling in NIH v. APHA, and more.You can find information on legal challenges to Trump administration actions here. And check out Lawfare's new homepage on the litigation, new Bluesky account, and new WITOAD merch.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of The Association Insights Podcast, we wrap up our August series on artificial intelligence with a standout example of AI in action. Host Colleen Gallagher sits down with Dave Dellin, Chief Executive Officer of the American Paint Horse Association (APHA), to explore how a tech-forward mindset is transforming a legacy association. From reducing call volume to enhancing 24/7 member support, Dave shares how APHA's AI-powered chatbot, BeccaBot, is making life easier for both members and staff—and what's next as they plan to use AI across their digital ecosystem.

In this special episode of the podcast, host Yvette Raphael and a panel of young female advocates take over the discussion at the IAS 2025 held in Kigali, Rwanda. The episode features insightful conversations with Sinehlanhla Gogela, Sihle Magwentshu, Siviwe Gaika, who are active members of the Young Women's HIV Prevention Council and ground forces with the organization APA. The panel discusses the impact of recent funding cuts on HIV prevention efforts, their experiences in promoting HIV awareness, and the importance of community engagement. They also highlight promising developments in HIV prevention, including the introduction of the long-lasting injectable Lenacapavir and the dual prevention pill (DPP). The advocates express their hopes for the future and the need for continued support and funding to sustain their vital work. 00:00 Introduction and Welcome 00:27 Meet the Guests 01:44 Impact of Funding Cuts 05:50 Conference Highlights and Key Takeaways 09:57 Future of HIV Prevention 16:30 The Role of Ground Forces 20:42 Closing Remarks and Celebrations

Work has officially begun to create a new National Biosecurity Centre. It's being built on the existing Animal and Plant Health Agency (APHA) site, at Weybridge in Surrey. The whole project is costing between two and three billion pounds and is expected to take until 2033 to complete. The APHA was recently criticised by the National Audit Office, which said facilities there were not adequate to prevent or cope with contiguous national animal disease outbreaks such as foot and mouth and avian flu. However, the government says it is putting that right by the upgrade, which will ensure that the threat of animal diseases, which could be passed to humans, are prevented or dealt with efficiently. Unreliable mobile phone signal is a common complaint on many farms. Connectivity isn't just about messaging or making calls. Using apps and uploading data are an increasingly important part of everyday farming. Could part of the solution be private, portable digital  5G networks? We visit a farm thathas been trialling such a system.All week we're meeting the next generation of agricultural talent; whether it be farmers, foresters, land managers or agronomists. Thousands of young people will graduate from agricultural courses, across the UK this summer and all week, we'll be finding out what they hope to achieve, and what jobs they are looking forward to. We meet students from Moulton College in Northamptonshire who have just completed their agricultural studies.Presenter: Anna Hill Producer: Rebecca Rooney

Editors Vickie Mays and Alfredo Morabia (AJPH) interview Trina Adler, Program Leader, Health & Nutrition Department of Family, Health & Wellbeing, U of MN Twin Cities, about her APHA 2024 presentation titled “Native American women practice mino-bimaadiziwin: The good life". What is the relevance for public health, all of us, of "Mino bimaadiziwin," the Ojibwe phrase that translates to "living the good life" or "walking the good path"?

Alfredo Morabia (AJPH) interviews Yi-Ling Tan, Program Manager at NYU Langone Health based in New York City, New York about her APHA 2024 presentation titled “An overview of a community-led process to address problem gambling in the Asian American community.” We discuss the reasons that led her to study problem gambling among Asian Americans, and who were the essential community partners in this work?

In this episode, host Jim Jorgenson sits down with returning guest Dr. Alex Varkey to discuss big changes—both personal and professional. Since his last appearance, Alex has completed his term as President of the American Pharmacists Association (APhA) and made a major career move, leaving a successful role in health-system leadership to join Visante. Alex shares what motivated his transition, what it's been like stepping into the consulting world, and what lessons he's bringing with him from his time at APhA. He also offers thoughtful advice for professionals considering a change and discusses the trends he believes will shape the next five years in pharmacy. From workforce dynamics to innovation in care delivery, this conversation is packed with leadership insight and forward-thinking perspectives for anyone invested in the future of pharmacy.

Pharmacy is evolving. Are independent pharmacies and pharmacy schools keeping up?    Ed Cohen and Traci Poole join us in this episode of the “Independent Rx Forum” to talk innovation, advocacy, and the push to redefine what it means to be a pharmacist today. From payment reform to public trust, let's turn talk to action.    To learn more about EmpowerRx, the program John Beckner mentioned that was created for pharmacy support staff by our Developing Opportunities committee, visit https://ncpa.org/empower-rx.   Guests:  Ed Cohen, PharmD, FAPhA, COO, PharmTeam Associates  Traci Poole, PharmD, BCACP, BCGP, FAPhA, director of community practice advancement, Belmont College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences, fellow, APhA

Get plugged into Community Connected, a CPESN® initiative helping independent pharmacies strengthen community ties, build trust, and break down barriers to care. Our guests from CPESN, Angelina Tucker and Anginette Wyatt, share how this program can help you train your team, boost cultural competency, connect with local stakeholders, and access digital marketing tools. Plus, discover how CPESN can help you tap into accreditation, funding, and payer programs to expand your impact!     Get details at www.communityconnected.us.    Guests:   Angelina Tucker, assistant director, Community Connected, CPESN USA, director of clinical services, Best Value Pharmacies, Inc.  Anginette Wyatt, CEO, Clinical Care Pharmacy, LLC, Clinical Care Pharmacy, immediate-past president, APhA foundation

Welcome to Part Three of our special APhA Spotlight Post Show series — where we bring you voices from across the pharmacy spectrum who are innovating, advocating, and pushing the profession forward. This episode features a powerhouse lineup of thought leaders, entrepreneurs, executives, and global pharmacy champions. Featured Guests: Dr. Marci Strauss, PharmD Alex Berg, Rx2Go, PharmaStaff Kelli Stovall, RPh, MBA, IPC Lari Harding, SVP, Industry Affairs & Strategic Partnerships, INMAR James Hunsinger & Stephanie Delman, Boehringer Ingelheim Brandon Welch, PharmD Catherine Duggan, FIP Marsha Millonig Dr. Blair Thielemier, PharmD

Tim Ulbrich, PharmD, reflects on losing over $100,000 during recent market volatility and shares eight powerful, experience-driven lessons from two decades of investing to help listeners navigate the emotional and practical realities of building wealth. This episode is brought to you by APhA. Summary In this episode, Tim Ulbrich, PharmD gets personal and shares how he lost over $110,000 in just five days.  Despite his professional background in personal finance, Tim candidly shares how challenging it was to write those numbers down—highlighting just how emotional and disorienting the recent market volatility can feel, even for seasoned investors. Drawing on two decades of investing experience, Tim unpacks eight key lessons that go beyond theory. These aren't just ideas from a textbook or strategies he's shared with clients—they're principles shaped and reinforced by real-life experience. From understanding loss aversion and the importance of diversification to recognizing one's own risk tolerance, this episode offers practical insights for navigating the highs and lows of investing with confidence and resilience. Mentioned on the Show APhA The Behavioral Investor by Daniel Crosby YFP YouTube Channel YFP Book a Discovery Call YFP Disclaimer Subscribe to the YFP Newsletter Tim Ulbrich on LinkedIn YFP on Instagram YFP Facebook Group

Welcome to Part One of our special post-show coverage of the APhA 2025 Annual Meeting & Exposition! In this episode, we're joined by an incredible lineup of guests who bring insights, announcements, and reflections straight from the show floor. Whether you attended in person or are catching up from afar, this episode offers a front-row seat to some of the most compelling moments of APhA 2025.

In this episode, our guest is Tom Campbell, the Dean and Associate Professor of Pharmacy Practice at Lipscomb University College of Pharmacy in Nashville. Dr. Campbell received his Pharm.D. degree from the University of Tennessee College of Pharmacy and received board certification in pharmacotherapy in 1995. His prior work experience includes a pharmacy practice residency with VA Medical Center in Memphis, Columbus Regional Health System in Columbus, Georgia, and Sanofi Pharmaceuticals. He also served as Clinical Assistant Professor at Auburn University. Dr. Campbell has served as President of the Tennessee Pharmacists Association and served on the Board of Directors. He is a member of AACP, ASHP, APhA, CPFI and TPA. He's a recipient of the 2024 APhA Academy of Student Pharmacists Outstanding Dean Award which was established to recognize a school or college of pharmacy dean who has made significant contributions to the APhA-ASP Chapter and promoted with distinction the welfare of student pharmacists through various community service, leadership and professional activities. Dr. Campbell is a Sunday school teacher and former elder at the Spring Meadows Church of Christ in Spring Hill, TN. He has traveled to Central America as part of medical mission campaigns numerous times. Dr. Campbell and his late wife, Susan, have three sons.During the discussion, we explored questions around:How faith influences our daily work in healthcareThe ways faith impacts health behaviors and decision-makingThe role faith plays in job satisfaction and professional fulfillmentIt was inspiring to engage in meaningful dialogue with a leader who also sees their work as a calling to serve others. I'm grateful to Dean Campbell at Lipscomb University for fostering conversations that remind us of the deeper purpose behind our careers. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

On This Week in Pharmacy, we talk with Stephen Beckman, CEO of Yaral Pharma LLC. We're headed to APhA 2025 in Nashville. Next up, We're focused on the Expanding Role of the Pharmacist with Stephanie Smith, PharmD, Thea Blystone, PharmD, and Jamie Wilkey, PharmD.

This week on TWIRx – This Week in Pharmacy, we dive into two critical business topics impacting the pharmacy industry: staffing solutions and access to better medication options. Our first guest, Doniyor Sattarov, Vice President of PharmaStaff (pharmastaff.com), joins us to discuss staffing challenges in pharmacy and how outsourcing workforce solutions can boost efficiency and profitability. PharmaStaff, the official sponsor of PPN's Press & Media coverage at APhA 2025, specializes in building remote pharmacy workforces, helping operations scale without sacrificing quality. Next, we talk with  (fh2pharma.net) about their upcoming presence at the Pharmacy Profit Summit 2025 in Dallas. FH2 Pharma is committed to providing pharmacies with better access to medications with optimized dosing options, helping independent and specialty pharmacies improve patient care while enhancing profitability.

Featured Guests: Brigid Groves, PharmD, MS  Mitch Rothholz, RPh, MBA, FAPhA Lucas Berenbrok, PharmD, MS, BCACP, FAPhA  ·              Key Takeaway: Knowing where patients can find vaccines at pharmacies is crucial to increasing convenient access.  

·              Featured Guests: Brigid Groves, PharmD, MS  Mitch Rothholz, RPh, MBA, FAPhA Lucas Berenbrok, PharmD, MS, BCACP, FAPhA  ·              Key Takeaway: Knowing where patients can find vaccines at pharmacies is crucial to increasing convenient access.

In this episode, we welcome back Sandy Jirkovsky and Dave Dellin from the American Paint Horse Association (APHA) to discuss a new and innovative set of classes being introduced this year: the versatility classes. The guests reintroduce themselves and dive into the origins, rules, and expectations for both English and Western versatility. They outline the aims of these classes in promoting horse breeding and creating more competitive opportunities. Details about upcoming showcases, scoring systems, common penalties, and educational resources like Horse IQ are also covered. The episode emphasizes the potential benefits for trainers, exhibitors, and the industry at large by offering a balanced view between preserving tradition and fostering innovation within the APHA community.Related Links/Products:-HorseIQ - An engaging and interactive way to learn!00:00 Introduction and Guest Reintroductions01:30 Overview of New Versatility Classes04:12 Origins and Vision for the Classes11:50 Details of the English Versatility Class15:41 Details of the Western Versatility Class22:25 Judging Criteria and Penalties32:40 Future Plans and Final Thoughts

Objective: Discuss community-level strategies to engage individuals and special populations. ·              Topics Covered: o   Community outreach programs driven by pharmacists. ·              Unique to pharmacists and the pharmacy team is their ability to get outside of their 4 walls and bring vaccines and other healthcare services to where people are o   Central to many of these programs is support from government agencies and other payers – the availability of these resources in the future is unclear at this time. o   Utilization of Community Health Workers (CPESN/NCPA Health Care Worker / Technician program) §  There are pilots using codes that could be billed for this service.  Question is will money continue to be available §  Build on trust the public has with pharmacy team members – think about what other screening / preventive services you can incorporate with these trained individuals. - they can be ambassadors for your practice o   Addressing cultural and socioeconomic barriers to vaccine confidence. Connect with trusted community leaders Understand concerns from the populations your serve and who the influencers are with the community and family units Don't preach – provide credible information and let them process it o   Case studies of innovative engagement efforts, including partnerships with local organizations and faith-based groups. Offer to do talks Have discussion with organization leader and provide them with the facts they can use to reinforce messages o   How pharmacies can leverage their accessibility to serve as vaccination champions. Luke can talk about access; distance to pharmacies; pharmacy deserts Community health clinics, events, politicians events, etc. ·              Featured Guests: Brigid Groves, PharmD, MS  Mitch Rothholz, RPh, MBA, FAPhA Lucas Berenbrok, PharmD, MS, BCACP, FAPhA  ·              Key Takeaway: Collaboration with communi

Featured Guests Brigid Groves, PharmD, MS Mitch Rothholz, RPh, MBA, FAPhA Lucas Berenbrok, PharmD, MS, BCACP, FAPhA Key Takeaway Tools and techniques pharmacists can use to foster trust with patients regarding vaccines. CDC's "Vaccinate with Confidence" Initiative Protect Communities CDC is supporting partners to find and protect communities at risk through new investments and partnerships. Leverage CDC's Immunization and Vaccines for Children cooperative agreement to support efforts to identify and respond to areas with low vaccine coverage. Public trust in pharmacists and pharmacy teams helps reinforce vaccine messages. Collaboration with community leaders and influencers is crucial—messages must be evidence-based and credible. Best Practices for Pharmacists "Walk the talk"—if you or a family member received concomitant vaccines, share your experience. Example: "I received three vaccines at one visit (flu, COVID, and RSV), and I am here to talk about it (and I do)." Engage with patients by listening rather than lecturing. Acknowledge patient concerns and provide them with information to consider. Vaccine hesitancy is not the same as being anti-vaccine—many patients are "vaccine contemplators." Vaccine Effectiveness COVID-19 Vaccines Effectiveness Against Severe Outcomes Updated vaccines (September 2023 – January 2024) have been effective against XBB lineage and the new JN.1 variant. Waning Protection Booster doses are recommended as vaccine effectiveness declines over time. Population Variability Effectiveness varies based on age, underlying health conditions, and other factors (e.g., immunocompromised individuals may experience different levels of protection). General Vaccine Effectiveness Real-World Conditions Effectiveness is measured under real-world conditions, factoring in vaccine type, dosage, and timing. Monitoring & Updates The CDC continuously tracks vaccine effectiveness to adjust recommendations as needed. Impact of Vaccination Measles: Cases reduced from hundreds of thousands annually to only 49 in 2021. Polio: The U.S. has been polio-free since 1979. Hepatitis B: Routine vaccination significantly reduces liver cancer risk. Childhood Vaccinations: 100% reduction in cases of diphtheria, Hib, measles, mumps, polio, and rubella. Influenza incidence reduced by 17%. Overall Impact: Childhood immunizations have averted over 24 million cases of vaccine-preventable diseases in the U.S. Between 1994-2013, vaccinations prevented: 322 million cases of disease 21 million hospitalizations 732,000 deaths Public Health Strategies Use immunization data to identify areas of low vaccine coverage. Engage with local health departments to monitor vaccine-preventable disease trends. Strengthen immunization programs to enhance outbreak response. Encourage collaboration among healthcare providers—it shouldn't matter who vaccinates, the goal is increasing immunization rates. Empowering Families CDC is partnering with key organizations to strengthen vaccine conversations between providers and parents. Strategies Start vaccine conversations early, targeting parents of infants and pregnant women. Reduce hesitancy and improve access in community health centers. Develop provider toolkits to address parental concerns during outbreaks. Combating Misinformation CDC is working with local messengers and partners to stop vaccine myths. Challenges & Key Messages New administration statements have increased vaccine doubts, making conversations harder. There is no link between vaccines and autism, diabetes, or other diseases. Investments in Public Trust: Work with social media companies to promote trustworthy vaccine information. Provide accessible, accurate vaccine data to policymakers. Engage state and local health officials to counter misinformation effectively. Priorities for 2020 and Beyond CDC aims to ensure that every community is protected through: Data-driven strategies to identify vulnerable populations. Expanding local resources to strengthen vaccination efforts. Building a culture of immunization in healthcare settings. Improving public communication on vaccines. Enhancing partnerships to promote immunization initiatives. Ten Key Messages for Pharmacists Engaging with Vaccine-Hesitant Individuals Vaccines Save Lives – They prevent serious diseases and save millions of lives each year. Rigorous Testing – Vaccines undergo extensive trials and continuous monitoring to ensure safety and effectiveness. Community Immunity – Vaccination protects those who cannot be vaccinated, such as infants and immunocompromised individuals. Combating Misinformation – Rely on credible sources for vaccine facts. Misinformation fuels fear and hesitation. Mild Side Effects – Most side effects (e.g., sore arm, mild fever) are temporary. Severe side effects are extremely rare. Consult Healthcare Providers – Encourage patients to ask healthcare professionals for reassurance. Vaccines and Fertility – There is no evidence that vaccines, including COVID-19 vaccines, affect fertility. Herd Immunity – High vaccination rates protect entire communities. Rapid Vaccine Development Explained – COVID-19 vaccines were developed quickly due to unprecedented funding and collaboration—without compromising safety. Long-Term Benefits – Vaccination prevents future outbreaks and contributes to long-term public health. Pharmacists' Role in Addressing Hesitancy Provide accurate, evidence-based information. Listen actively to patients' concerns. Engage with community health workers to strengthen local vaccination efforts.

In honor of Black History Month, The Health Advocates welcome Dr. Georges Benjamin, Executive Director of the American Public Health Association (APHA). Dr. Benjamin shares his journey from emergency medicine to public health leadership, offering insights on health equity, community-based advocacy, and the ongoing challenges in public health. He discusses critical topics such as health care access and the importance of listening to communities to drive meaningful change. Tune in for an insightful conversation about advancing public health for all. Among the highlights in this episode: 02:08: Dr. Benjamin shares how his initial interest in molecular genetic research shifted toward emergency medicine and public health leadership 03:49: Dr. Benjamin discusses key challenges he has faced, from the HIV/AIDS epidemic to natural disasters and bioterrorism events 05:52: Dr. Benjamin highlights APHA’s focus on health insurance access, food insecurity, climate change, gun violence, reproductive rights, and vaccine advocacy 06:37: Zoe Rothblatt, Director of Community Outreach at GHLF, brings up the challenge of proving public health successes, noting that prevention often goes unnoticed 07:21: Dr. Benjamin explains how public health efforts prevent crises, using measles and vaccine hesitancy as examples 08:39: Zoe asks about the role of partnerships in public health, and Dr. Benjamin emphasizes collaboration as a key strategy 09:50: Dr. Benjamin shares personal experiences and the importance of diverse voices in decision-making 13:02: Zoe asks how public health programs should be evaluated, and Dr. Benjamin explains the importance of listening to communities before implementing solutions 14:45: Dr. Benjamin provides an example of how addressing social determinants of health, like safe neighborhoods, can make healthier choices more accessible 15:27: Dr. Benjamin shares his key takeaway: public health professionals must listen more than they talk 15:49 – Zoe and Steven Newmark, Chief of Policy at GHLF, reflect on Dr. Benjamin’s insights, emphasizing the importance of community engagement in public health Contact Our Hosts Steven Newmark, Chief of Policy at GHLF: snewmark@ghlf.org Zoe Rothblatt, Director of Community Outreach at GHLF: zrothblatt@ghlf.org A podcast episode produced by Ben Blanc, Associate Director, Digital Production and Engagement at GHLF. We want to hear what you think. Send your comments in the form of an email, video, or audio clip of yourself to podcasts@ghlf.org Catch up on all our episodes on our website or on your favorite podcast channel.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Equitable biomarker testing access, including pharmacogenomics testing, is critical for patients to experience optimal medication therapy outcomes. Be sure to tune in to this episode of the Precision Health and PGX Podcast as Dr. Becky Winslow, Dr. Behnaz Sarrami, and Hilary Goeckner, Director of State & Local Campaigns - Access to Care of the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network (ACS CAN), educate listeners about ACS CAN's mission, how it executes on its mission, accomplishments, and future goals.  This episode is a must listen for anyone who wants the latest update on the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network's work influencing state legislatures to pass legislation to expand coverage of biomarker testing, states who have already passed legislation and those with pending legislation, and to learn how they too can advocate.   After listening to this episode, listeners will be able to describe biomarker testing's importance in healthcare; describe how the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network is championing biomarker testing coverage legislation; name states that have passed biomarker testing legislation and those with pending legislation; know how one can contribute to the efforts to increase biomarker testing coverage. Hilary Gee Goeckner is director of state and local campaigns for the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network (ACS CAN), the advocacy affiliate of the American Cancer Society. In this role she leads work with ACS CAN staff and coalition partners across the country to improve access to comprehensive biomarker testing, clinical trials, fertility preservation and other health care access issues. Prior to this role, Hilary served as the Kansas government relations director for ACS CAN. Before joining ACS CAN, Hilary served as director of health policy at Kansas Action for Children. She holds a bachelor's degree in anthropology and global health from Williams College and a master's degree in social work from Boston College. She lives in San Diego with her husband and two children. As the CEO of inGENEious RX Incorporated and pharmacogenomics subject matter expert, Dr. Becky Winslow has dedicated over a decade to providing innovative solutions for pharmacogenomics stakeholders. Her extensive experience also includes directing pharmacy operations and medication safety programs across diverse clinical settings, spanning retail, hospital, long-term care, and public health. Dr. Winslow is a passionate educator, training Doctors of Clinical Pharmacy to work with molecular testing stakeholders and serving as an advanced pharmacy practice preceptor for Manchester University's Master of Science in Pharmacogenomics Program. She hosts an evidence-based educational podcast, The Precision Health and PGx Podcast, which Welp Magazine recognized as the ninth most listened to genetics podcast globally. Her involvement with prominent organizations like the Clinical Pharmacogenetics Implementation Consortium and the National Council for Prescription Drug Programs (NCPDP) PGx Task Force speaks to her expertise and commitment. Dr. Winslow frequently presents at national conferences such as The Association for Molecular Pathology and holds degrees from Campbell University.  Behnaz Sarrami, PharmD, MS, is a leading expert in pharmacogenomics and a dedicated Medical Science Liaison (MSL). She is named American Pharmacists Association's (APhA) "50 Most Influential Leaders in Pharmacy" and Medika's "Top 30 Women Transforming Healthcare". Behnaz is passionate about advancing personalized medicine to optimize treatments and improve patient outcomes, especially in underserved populations. She supports healthcare professionals through scientific training and presentations. As the host of the "Precision Health and PGx" podcast, she mentors pharmacists transitioning into MSL roles and those launching pharmacogenomics consulting careers. She earned her Master's in Biochemistry from Georgetown University and her Doctorate in Pharmacy from Creighton University. With significant contributions to research and education, she continues to drive innovation in pharmacogenomics through her work with healthcare professionals and community outreach programs.  

Four pharmacist entrepreneurs share their journeys from pharmacy to thriving businesses, offering tips, actionable advice and inspiration. This episode is brought to you by APhA. Summary In this engaging panel discussion, four pharmacist entrepreneurs—Brooke Griffin, Jimmy Pruitt III, Kelley Carlstrom, and Natalie Park—share their unique paths from pharmacy to thriving businesses. Discover how they built their ventures, made strategic decisions, and overcame challenges along the way. Gain practical insights into audience building, pricing strategies, navigating sales, and balancing personal and professional growth.  Whether you're dreaming up a new idea or ready to expand your business, this episode is packed with actionable advice and inspiration to help you take the next step in your entrepreneurial journey. About Today's Guests Kelley Carlstrom is the CEO and founder of KelleyCPharmD, an education company that fills the considerable gap in clinical oncology training. She is passionate about democratizing oncology pharmacy education and increasing accessibility and inclusion through her unique L.E.A.R.N Oncology Method. Brooke Griffin is a pharmacist, professor, keynote speaker, and professional coach. She offers group and 1:1 coaching for pharmacists who are feeling stuck and want clarity on their next steps. She hosts a motivational 5-minute podcast, Today's Bold Idea, and is on this self-discovery journey alongside all of you. She believes everyone deserves a coach! Dr. Natalie Park is a co-founder and CEO of Pharmesol, an AI pharmacy assistant that automates inbound/outbound calls, messages, and associated workflows such as documentation to save the pharmacy teams time, streamlines operations, and gives 24/7 concierge-like experience for their customers. She is a pharmacist with a passion for leveraging technology and innovation in the pharmacy industry. Jimmy Pruitt III, PharmD, BCPS, BCCCP, BCEMP, a pharmacist and entrepreneur, earned his Doctor of Pharmacy degree from Presbyterian College and completed residencies at Florida Hospital Orlando and Grady Health System. He founded EMPowerRX Conference and Pharmacy & Acute Care University (PACU) to innovate healthcare education and inspire pharmacists to pursue entrepreneurship. In 2021, he received the Excellence in Diversity award and was named Alumni of the Year at Presbyterian College. Dr. Pruitt is also an Emergency Medicine Clinical Pharmacy Specialist at Atrium Health and hosts the "Pharm So Hard" podcast, aiming to educate and elevate the pharmacy profession. Mentioned on the Show Start by Jon Acuff Brooke Griffin on LinkedIn Kelley Carlstrom on LinkedIn Natalie Park on LinkedIn Jimmy Pruitt III on LinkedIn YFP Disclaimer Subscribe to the YFP Newsletter Tim Ulbrich on LinkedIn YFP on Instagram YFP Facebook Group  

Lindsey Myers, ASTHO Vice President for Public Health Workforce and Infrastructure, discusses the need to bolster the public health workforce to better serve everyone; Dr. Georges Benjamin, Executive Director of the American Public Health Association, recaps the annual APHA meeting; ASTHO's Omar Khalid was recently featured on an episode of “Public Health Live!”; and an ASTHO blog article details more ways to support your workforce. ASTHO Web Page: Strengthening the Public Health and Healthcare Workforce American Public Health Association Web Page: APHA 2024 Public Health Live! Episode: Trauma Responsive Leadership for the Public Health Workforce ASTHO Blog Article: Small Steps to Support and Compensate the Public Health Workforce  

Be sure to tune in to this episode of the Precision Health and PGX Podcast as Dr. Becky Winslow, Dr. Behnaz Sarrami, and Dr. Jeremy Stuart, Chief Scientific Officer and laboratory director for Precision Genetics, discuss pharmacists value as employees in clinical pharmacogenomics testing laboratories. Having employed pharmacists in his laboratories, Dr. Stuart will provide his first-hand examples to illustrate how pharmacists have benefited his laboratories. Dr. Winslow and Dr. Sarrami will also share their real-world experiences working for clinical pharmacogenomics laboratories to help the laboratory achieve its goals. This episode is a must listen for laboratories who are vested in their pharmacogenomics testing's financial success.  After listening to this episode, the learner will be able to describe responsibilities and roles in pharmacogenomics pharmacists fulfill in clinical labs, name specific real-world examples that illustrate pharmacists' contributions to pharmacogenomics in the clinical laboratory, and name education, training, and work experiences that prepare pharmacists to assume advanced practice roles in clinical laboratories.   Dr. Jeremy Stuart has extensive experience in the life science industry. He specializes in commercial operations, technology development and transfer, manufacturing design, and validation of laboratory developed tests (LDTs). He currently serves as the Chief Scientific Officer for Precision Genetics and serves as their Laboratory Director.  Dr. Stuart was part of the senior management team that completed a management buyout of Lab21 Inc. to form Selah Genomics and the subsequent sale of Selah to EKF. Dr. Stuart led the development and validation of all of Selah's molecular assays and oversaw their clinical studies. Dr. Stuart was also a member of the Agencourt Personal Genomics team, where he co-developed the SOLiD next-generation sequencing technology that was subsequently acquired by Applied Biosystems.   Before entering industry, Dr. Stuart completed his postdoctoral work at the the Harvard School of Public Health, earned his master's degree in Toxicology from the University of Minnesota, and his doctorate in Genetics & Complex Diseases from Harvard University.  As the CEO of inGENEious RX Incorporated and pharmacogenomics subject matter expert, Dr. Becky Winslow has dedicated over a decade to providing innovative solutions for pharmacogenomics stakeholders. Her extensive experience also includes directing pharmacy operations and medication safety programs across diverse clinical settings, spanning retail, hospital, long-term care, and public health. Dr. Winslow is a passionate educator, training Doctors of Clinical Pharmacy to work with molecular testing stakeholders and serving as an advanced pharmacy practice preceptor for Manchester University's Master of Science in Pharmacogenomics Program. She hosts an evidence-based educational podcast, The Precision Health and PGx Podcast, which Welp Magazine recognized as the ninth most listened to genetics podcast globally. Her involvement with prominent organizations like the Clinical Pharmacogenetics Implementation Consortium and the National Council for Prescription Drug Programs (NCPDP) PGx Task Force speaks to her expertise and commitment. Dr. Winslow frequently presents at national conferences such as The Association for Molecular Pathology and holds degrees from Campbell University.  Behnaz Sarrami, PharmD, MS, is a leading expert in pharmacogenomics and a dedicated Medical Science Liaison (MSL). She is named American Pharmacists Association's (APhA) "50 Most Influential Leaders in Pharmacy" and Medika's "Top 30 Women Transforming Healthcare". Behnaz is passionate about advancing personalized medicine to optimize treatments and improve patient outcomes, especially in underserved populations. She supports healthcare professionals through scientific training and presentations. As the host of the "Precision Health and PGx" podcast, she mentors pharmacists transitioning into MSL roles and those launching pharmacogenomics consulting careers. She earned her Master's in Biochemistry from Georgetown University and her Doctorate in Pharmacy from Creighton University. With significant contributions to research and education, she continues to drive innovation in pharmacogenomics through her work with healthcare professionals and community outreach programs.

In this episode, Dr. Huntley discusses the importance of building trust and genuine relationships with communities, particularly BIPOC communities, through her consulting firm. She shares insights from a previous episode and outlines how her team is actively engaging with attendees at the American Public Health Association's (APHA) annual meeting. The conversation emphasizes the significance of in-person connections and the intention to foster ongoing relationships with podcast listeners and clients.   Resources   Visit the PHEC Podcast Show Notes: https://PHECPodcast.com/   Grab Your FREE 10-Page PHEC Podcast eBook: https://mypublichealthcareer.com/   DrCHHuntley, Public Health & Epidemiology Consulting: https://www.drchhuntley.com/consulting   Resources for Public Health Entrepreneurs https://publichealthentrepreneurs.com/  

Desiree emphasizes the significance of internships, detailing how her experience at APHA became a cornerstone of her career. She discusses the multi-faceted roles within the organization that promote equine lifestyle and culture, underscoring her achievements in expanding APHA's reach through initiatives like the "Chrome" magazine. Desiree imparts her wisdom on the art of collaboration and relationship building, crucial skills for success in any industry. Her insights into balancing a fast-paced career with personal life provide listeners with valuable life lessons on setting boundaries and managing time effectively in today's hustle culture. Connect with Desiree and learn more about APHA below!  https://www.facebook.com/desiloowho92, https://www.linkedin.com/in/desiree-heath-mills/, https://apha.com/, dmills@apha.com, https://www.tarleton.edu/animalsciences/, https://animalscience.tamu.edu/ Want to catch the video on YouTube? Tune in here: https://youtu.be/LHSBZtNxgCs Ready to transform the energy on your team for on-fire effectiveness and results? Looking for your next Event Speaker or Trainer? Email me today! Connect with Jodi www.JodiSpeaksLIFE.com www.LinkedIn.com/in/JodiLynchFindley Jodi@JodiSpeaksLIFE.com https://www.instagram.com/jodispeakslife

Brandon Gerleman, PharmD shares the strategy for how he paid off $160k of debt. This episode is brought to you by APhA. Summary Brandon Gerleman, a 2017 pharmacy graduate from the University of Iowa, shares his journey of paying off $160k of debt through not one, not two, but five refinances along the way. Brandon discusses his repayment strategy, why he decided for a more aggressive loan payoff, and what's next for him and his family. He emphasizes the importance of living within your means, being aware of finances, and the impact of interest rates on repayment strategies. Brandon and his wife are now looking toward the future and he shares what other financial goals they are preparing for. About Today's Guest Brandon Gerleman, PharmD is a 2017 graduate of the University of Iowa College of Pharmacy. He currently works as a Senior Product Manager on the Pharmacy Product Team at Outcomes, where he manages products to help pharmacists practice at the top of their training and provides tools to help drive pharmacy campaigns and increase efficiencies. After graduating in 2017 with $161,000 in student loan debt, he paid it off in May 2024. Brandon and his wife, Mariah, have 2 children and live in a rural community in Iowa. He enjoys spending time with his family, golfing, and watching Iowa Hawkeye football. Mentioned on the Show Brandon Gerleman on LinkedIn APhA Membership Discount with coupon code YFP Tim Ulbrich on LinkedIn YFP on Instagram YFP Facebook Group Your Financial Pharmacist YFP Disclaimer YFP Newsletter