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How to Properly Serve Divorce Papers to an Out-of-State Spouse | Los Angeles Divorce
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A 911 call leads Michigan police to a scene where they’re greeted by a kindergartener with a handgun. Two parents are charged with neglect after refusing to pick up their 13-year-old daughter from a hospital in Indiana. Drew Nelson reports.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Are you aware of the harmful impact workplace stress can have on our well-being? Tune in for an inspiring discussion with Dr. Melvin Mahone on his #book Coping with Stress and Building Leadership: One Man's Journey. Moments with Marianne airs in the Southern California area on KMET1490AM & 98.1 FM, an ABC Talk News Radio affiliate! Melvin Mahone, PhD, is a full-time Assistant Sociology Professor, at Paine College in Augusta, Georgia. He graduated with a Ph.D. in Criminal Justice with a Special Emphasis in Corrections at Union Institute and University, in Cincinnati in 2002. Dr. Mahone started working in criminal justice in 1972, as a Federal Protective Officer for GSA. Dr. Mahone was employed for the Bureau of Prisons as a Correctional Officer and Correctional Treatment Specialist. He then went on to become a Florida State Probation and Parole Officer in 1982. After that he worked briefly as a Illinois State Parole Agent. He started working as an Investigator for a private law firm as a Process Server. After that he was employed as a Mental Health Worker, and as a Drug Counselor. He then went on to be employed as a Social Services Career Trainee for the state of Illinois. He was a Resident Advisor briefly. https://doctormahone.comFor more show information visit: www.MariannePestana.com#book #bookclub #stress #backtheblue #police #leadership #bookclub
Brandon is my high school friend! We just both happen to live in Seattle now and now I'm a regular at his holiday functions and I hang out with his dad when Brando goes out of town (and his cat)! He also just got married. He's a process server! And so much more.This is my longest episode yet-- there was just too much good stuff not to share. Brandon also opens about his sobriety a bit and we talk about our fathers.(Brandon briefly references a young woman from high school named Heidi towards the end who passed away tragically a few weeks before we graduated. For context, I wanted to mention that.)Contact me at ProfessionalAnomalies@gmail.com!Find me on all socials at @anomaliespod.
The life of a process server can and usually is filled with a bit of adventure. It's never fun to be the bearer of bad news, especially when that bad news means money coming out of your pocket and in this episode, we hear from a few process servers who recount their own experiences serving people with court summons. From being yelled at to people getting aggressive and physical, these process servers have dealt with it all as they attempted to serve their targets.(commercial at 10:20)to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:https://nypost.com/2022/05/10/how-and-why-celebs-get-served-lawsuits-in-public/
Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Wednesday April 10, 2024 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Any divorce is a complicated and difficult process, both legally and emotionally. Even spouses who agree on most things can have a lot of stressful hurdles. In some situations, the issue may be that one spouse refuses to sign the divorce papers. In a circumstance where a divorce is more contested, divorce proceedings can be longer and more draining. It's important to know what to do if you face this situation. This podcast episode is based on an article on our St. Charles Divorce Lawyers blog titled: What Do I Do If My Spouse Won't Sign the Divorce Papers? To learn more, interested individuals can contact our Fort Wayne, Indiana divorce lawyers online or by calling 855-805-0595.
Slam the Gavel welcomes back Mark Andrews to the podcast. Mark was last on Season 2, Episode 80, Season 3, Episodes 13 and 23, Season 4, Episodes 116 and 138 and Season 5, Episode 29. The last time Mark was on we discussed his what had happened in his federal case. He is represented by Attorney Eric Wafer. Today we talked about the viral YouTube video on Mark, a process server, trying to serve paperwork to Attorney Robert Pittman, Sonoma County, California, in regards to a lawsuit involving a restraining order. Attorney Pittman somehow forgot the Civil Code of Procedure regarding Process Servers. Mark Andrews wasn't trespassing and Attorney Pittman wanted him under arrest for trespass and being on his property. However, the arrest was voided immediately as Mark knew more about the law than Attorney Pittman with the Cornell University degree. The Process Server knew the law. Pittman also makes more than the Congressman. "Pittman needs to be replaced as he committed criminal acts on video," Mark explained. TAXPAYERS need to know how their taxpayer's dollars are being spent. To Reach Mark Andrews: nottobetakenaway@live.com or dismantlingfamilycourtcorruption.com Could you please sign and share the petition: https://www.change.org/p/remove-judge-elizabeth-kelly-from-the-bench-permanentlyThis episode of Slam the Gavel is sponsored by CPSprotect Consulting Services. Child Protective Services cases are among the most frightening experiences any parent can endure- don't face them alone! With UrgentAssist by CPSprotect, you get the peace of mind to raise your children as you see fit and the personalized assistance of their team of expert child welfare consultants- former CPS investigators themselves- right when you need it. Get started absolutely free at cpsprotect.com/register. *DISCLAIMER* The use of this information is at the viewer/user's own risk. Not financial, medical nor legal advice as the content on this podcast does not constitute legal, financial, medical or any other professional advice. Viewer/user's should consult with the relevant professionals for specific advice related to their own situation.Supportshow(https://www.buymeacoffee.com/maryannpetri)http://www.dismantlingfamilycourtcorruption.comSupport the showSupportshow(https://www.buymeacoffee.com/maryannpetri)http://www.dismantlingfamilycourtcorruption.com/
Slam the Gavel welcomes back Mark Andrews to the podcast. Mark was last on Season 2, Episode 80, Season 3, Episodes 13 and 23, Season 4, Episodes 116 and 138 and Season 5, Episode 29. The last time Mark was on we discussed his what had happened in his federal case. He is represented by Attorney Eric Wafer. Today we talked about the viral YouTube video on Mark, a process server, trying to serve paperwork to Attorney Robert Pittman in Sonoma County, California, in regards to a lawsuit involving a restraining order. Attorney Pittman somehow forgot the Civil Code of Procedure regarding Process Servers. Mark Andrews wasn't trespassing and Attorney Pittman wanted him under arrest for trespass and being on his property, however the arrest was voided immediately as Mark knew more about the law than Attorney Pittman with the Cornell University degree. The Process Server knew the law. Pittman also makes more than the Congressman. "Pittman needs to be replaced as he committed criminal acts on video," Mark explained. TAXPAYERS need to know how their taxpayer's dollars are being spent. To Reach Mark Andrews: nottobetakenaway@live.com or dismantlingfamilycourtcorruption.com Could you please sign and share the petition: https://www.change.org/p/remove-judge-elizabeth-kelly-from-the-bench-permanentlyThis episode of Slam the Gavel is sponsored by CPSprotect Consulting Services. Child Protective Services cases are among the most frightening experiences any parent can endure- don't face them alone! With UrgentAssist by CPSprotect, you get the peace of mind to raise your children as you see fit and the personalized assistance of their team of expert child welfare consultants- former CPS investigators themselves- right when you need it. Get started absolutely free at cpsprotect.com/register. *DISCLAIMER* The use of this information is at the viewer/user's own risk. Not financial, medical nor legal advice as the content on this podcast does not constitute legal, financial, medical or any other professional advice. Viewer/user's should consult with the relevant professionals for specific advice related to their own situation.Supportshow(https://www.buymeacoffee.com/maryannpetri)http://www.dismantlingfamilycourtcorruption.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/maryann-petri/support
Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Thursday August 31, 2023 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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A process server is an individual responsible for delivering legal documents to individuals involved in a court case or legal proceeding. Their primary duty is to ensure that the due process of law is upheld by providing proper notification to all parties involved. Here is a summary of a process server's duties:Document Delivery: The main responsibility of a process server is to deliver legal documents such as summons, complaints, subpoenas, writs, and other court orders to the intended recipients. This can include individuals, businesses, government agencies, or organizations involved in a legal matter.Personal Service: Process servers often deliver documents directly to the recipients by hand. They must verify the identity of the person receiving the documents to ensure that they are served to the correct individual.Service Compliance: Process servers must adhere to the legal requirements and regulations of the jurisdiction in which they operate. They need to understand the specific rules regarding the proper service of legal documents, including timeframes, methods, and any additional requirements.Record Keeping: Process servers maintain detailed records of their activities. They document the date, time, and location of each attempted service or successful delivery. These records are crucial for demonstrating that due diligence was followed in attempting to serve the documents.Diligence and Persistence: If the intended recipient is not initially available or attempts to avoid being served, the process server may need to make multiple attempts at different times or locations. They may employ surveillance or investigative techniques to locate the person and successfully deliver the documents.Affidavit of Service: After serving the documents, process servers are often required to provide an affidavit or proof of service. This document includes information about the delivery, including the date, time, location, and the name of the person who received the documents. The affidavit is submitted to the court as evidence that proper service has been completed.Confidentiality and Professionalism: Process servers handle sensitive legal documents and must maintain confidentiality throughout the process. They should conduct themselves professionally, respecting the privacy and rights of the individuals involved in the legal matter.It is important to note that the specific duties of a process server may vary depending on the jurisdiction and the nature of the legal proceedings. However, the core responsibility remains delivering legal documents in a timely and accurate manner while following the applicable laws and regulations.(commercial at 13:22)to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:https://nypost.com/2022/05/10/how-and-why-celebs-get-served-lawsuits-in-public/This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5080327/advertisement
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A process server is an individual responsible for delivering legal documents to individuals involved in a court case or legal proceeding. Their primary duty is to ensure that the due process of law is upheld by providing proper notification to all parties involved. Here is a summary of a process server's duties:Document Delivery: The main responsibility of a process server is to deliver legal documents such as summons, complaints, subpoenas, writs, and other court orders to the intended recipients. This can include individuals, businesses, government agencies, or organizations involved in a legal matter.Personal Service: Process servers often deliver documents directly to the recipients by hand. They must verify the identity of the person receiving the documents to ensure that they are served to the correct individual.Service Compliance: Process servers must adhere to the legal requirements and regulations of the jurisdiction in which they operate. They need to understand the specific rules regarding the proper service of legal documents, including timeframes, methods, and any additional requirements.Record Keeping: Process servers maintain detailed records of their activities. They document the date, time, and location of each attempted service or successful delivery. These records are crucial for demonstrating that due diligence was followed in attempting to serve the documents.Diligence and Persistence: If the intended recipient is not initially available or attempts to avoid being served, the process server may need to make multiple attempts at different times or locations. They may employ surveillance or investigative techniques to locate the person and successfully deliver the documents.Affidavit of Service: After serving the documents, process servers are often required to provide an affidavit or proof of service. This document includes information about the delivery, including the date, time, location, and the name of the person who received the documents. The affidavit is submitted to the court as evidence that proper service has been completed.Confidentiality and Professionalism: Process servers handle sensitive legal documents and must maintain confidentiality throughout the process. They should conduct themselves professionally, respecting the privacy and rights of the individuals involved in the legal matter.It is important to note that the specific duties of a process server may vary depending on the jurisdiction and the nature of the legal proceedings. However, the core responsibility remains delivering legal documents in a timely and accurate manner while following the applicable laws and regulations.(commercial at 13:22)to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:https://nypost.com/2022/05/10/how-and-why-celebs-get-served-lawsuits-in-public/This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5003294/advertisement
The life of a process server can and usually is filled with a bit of adventure. It's never fun to be the bearer of bad news, especially when that bad news means money coming out of your pocket and in this episode, we hear from a few process servers who recount their own experiences serving people with court summons. From being yelled at to people getting aggressive and physical, these process servers have dealt with it all as they attempted to serve their targets.(commercial at 10:20)to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:https://nypost.com/2022/05/10/how-and-why-celebs-get-served-lawsuits-in-public/
The burden of eviction notices and process serving is heavy enough. Not to mention all the time that could be spent focusing on your properties. What if there was a way you could get out of having to drive to your properties or avoid a potentially dangerous situation with a bad tenant eviction. Steve Bachtel joins the podcast to talk about how Proof can properly serve notices, reduce risks, and why they're called the Uber of process serving. To learn more visit www.proofserve.com. Connect with Brad's team at www.rentwerx.com!
We are at the finale! What happened the months, weeks, days, and hours leading up to Burt's shooting? Was Anthony justified in shooting his dad, and, if so, will a jury see that? Make sure to listen to the first two parts before listening to this one or you'll be lost!Reference:I Just Killed My DadSeason 1, Episode 3: Big Bad BurtNetflixThe Heroes Tried Their BestA bi-weekly Canadian based comedic Tabletop campaign with supernatural and steampunk...Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify
The life of a process server can and usually is filled with a bit of adventure. It's never fun to be the bearer of bad news, especially when that bad news means money coming out of your pocket and in this episode, we hear from a few process servers who recount their own experiences serving people with court summons. From being yelled at to people getting aggressive and physical, these process servers have dealt with it all as they attempted to serve their targets.(commercial at 10:20)to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:https://nypost.com/2022/05/10/how-and-why-celebs-get-served-lawsuits-in-public/
The life of a process server can and usually is filled with a bit of adventure. It's never fun to be the bearer of bad news, especially when that bad news means money coming out of your pocket and in this episode, we hear from a few process servers who recount their own experiences serving people with court summons. From being yelled at to people getting aggressive and physical, these process servers have dealt with it all as they attempted to serve their targets.(commercial at 10:20)to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:https://nypost.com/2022/05/10/how-and-why-celebs-get-served-lawsuits-in-public/
You've been served! Scott and Chris talk to Rocky, a Process Server. Rocky explains people who try to avoid him, dangerous encounters, and how his job is nothing like the movie Pineapple Express!If you want to be a guest on our podcast or just share your stories, email us at stories@notinthejob.com We look forward to hearing from you! Follow us on our social's Twitter: @not_description Instagram: @not_in_the_job_description Facebook: @Not.in.the.Job.DescriptionAnd as always, We will see you at work!
The life of a process server can and usually is filled with a bit of adventure. It's never fun to be the bearer of bad news, especially when that bad news means money coming out of your pocket and in this episode, we hear from a few process servers who recount their own experiences serving people with court summons. From being yelled at to people getting aggressive and physical, these process servers have dealt with it all as they attempted to serve their targets. (commercial at 10:21)to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:https://nypost.com/2022/05/10/how-and-why-celebs-get-served-lawsuits-in-public
The life of a process server can and usually is filled with a bit of adventure. It's never fun to be the bearer of bad news, especially when that bad news means money coming out of your pocket and in this episode, we hear from a few process servers who recount their own experiences serving people with court summons. From being yelled at to people getting aggressive and physical, these process servers have dealt with it all as they attempted to serve their targets. (commercial at 10:21)to contact me:bobbycapucci@protonmail.comsource:https://nypost.com/2022/05/10/how-and-why-celebs-get-served-lawsuits-in-public/
The Mexican-American Mixed Martial artist and bare knuckle boxer on being smuggled into the US as a child in a pickup truck, and how almost losing his eye turned him toward the art of the city of his birth
The Mexican-American Mixed Martial artist and bare knuckle boxer on being smuggled into the US as a child in a pickup truck, and how almost losing his eye turned him toward the art of the city of his birth
The Mexican-American Mixed Martial artist and bare knuckle boxer on being smuggled into the US as a child in a pickup truck, and how almost losing his eye turned him toward the art of the city of his birth
In Michigan, Yes. A specific statute allows for it. http://www.lehtoslaw.com
For more details on this podcast visit: https://www.sidehustlelounge.com/blog/ep32Episode 32: When the going gets tough, the tough get going.Jamie Liggins, NNA Ambassador, 29+ years in the industry as a Notary/NSA, Mentor and Notary Law Instructor. I have taught and mentored over 1000 ppl establish their notary business. 2004 NNA Notary of the Year, 2018 NNA Keynote Speaker. Author of 10 Ways to Say Notarize THIS when establishing and diversifying your business. Diversifications: Field Inspector, Private Investigator, Process Server, Legal Shield Associate, Sign Language InterpreterJoin Jamie's email list for updates and events at www.notaryaccess.orgBlog Description:Champions aren't made when the game is easy, and through 30 years as a mobile Notary and loan signing agent, Jamie has been through some "thangs." Divorce. Illness. Death. And moving her entire business to a new state never stopped her. Listen to this journey of serendipity and strength that can be applied to ANY business. Timestamps:30:38 I took a job as a sign language interpreter, and I found that job from doing a signing. And the lady was like, please, please, please, please, we need interpreters. So I took it for a year, but I do not really like working for anyone anymore. That's a drive. The other thing is, life is interesting and I love meeting people of all backgrounds, all cultures. I enjoy what I do. It's not difficult. Being a notary is challenging because you don't know what people are going to say when you are performing a loan signing - and yet it's fun. 48:21 So what I said, how much do I need? And literally you have to look at the cost of living where you're at, California, Colorado, New York, Texas, wherever you're at Louisiana and tell yourself, this is how much I need to take care of my bills. I can't kill myself. I can't do 15/20 jobs. I can't do that and assist my mother and do my, my home responsibilities without dying when I get home. So I'm saying this for all who are listening, calculate how much money you need and stick with that. Don't be greedy.51:45 Diversify - stay a loving networking person instead of a jealous, competitive person. That's going to get you nowhere.Full transcription of this podcast: https://www.sidehustlelounge.com/blog/ep32This episode was produced and marketed by the Get Known Podcast Service: www.getknownstrategy.com/podcast-service
Slam the Gavel welcomes Mark T. Andrews as he walks us through his journey through Family Court, the loss of his children and fraud on the court. Mark is a father of two and part of the abusive Family Court Legal System. He is also a 13- year veteran and licensed officer of the court, known as a Process Server working for hundreds of lawyers, 15 investigators and three judges. Mark T. Andrews is also the man who submitted the Family Court Whistleblower Complaint to the Congress through Congressman Mark DeSaulnier and Ro Khanna. They then submitted it to the overbite and reform committee. This is NOW opening up talks regarding Family Court Reform. There was also a Federal Civil Rights Case Mark filed, 17-cv-00252. Apparently, Federal Judge William Orrick, III (also the judge that handled the First Trump Travel Ban), ruled on his case that said judges have absolute immunity from suit even though VIOLATING your CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. Mark's case has spanned over 18 years. He has been in front of 15 judges, 3 commissioners, 73 hearings and hauled into court 11 times by warrant. He hasn't seen his kiddos for less than one months worth of hours. In all this time, his ex-wife has never once been held accountable for not showing up with the kids. The kids haven't been allowed to come over for visits in the summer, nor has their father been allowed to take his son to a football game. He has had to visit in a four block radius in a town called Sonoma. NO PARENT SHOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS. Divorced since 2002, January 2004 was the last time his children came to his home. Mark has last seen his kids together the first week of April 2008. Finally, Mark last saw just his son for one hour in a therapist's office in 2012 costing $125.00/hour. Taken by FALSE ALLEGATIONS. Mark has lost a full two years of visitation. We discussed case law, laws transcripts that have been changed and what can be done in the future to hold those accountable that do not follow the law.To Reach Mark: nottobetakenaway@live.com and cell number: 707-280-7425Mark also runs I Am The Storm Podcast Kids Matter--Fraud Upon The Court--Family Law Courts Are Corrupt on YouTubeSupport the show(https://www.buymeacoffee.com/maryannpetri)https://monicaszymonik.mykajabi.com/Masterclass USE CODE SLAM THE GAVEL PODCAST FOR 10% OFF THE COURSEhttp://www.dismantlingfamilycourtcorruption.com/Music by: mictechmusic@yahoo.comSupport the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/maryannpetri)
Slam the Gavel welcomes Mark T. Andrews as he walks us through his journey through Family Court, the loss of his children and fraud on the court. Mark is a father of two and part of the abusive Family Court Legal System. He is also a 13- year veteran and licensed officer of the court, known as a Process Server working for hundreds of lawyers, 15 investigators and three judges. Mark T. Andrews is also the man who submitted the Family Court Whistleblower Complaint to the Congress through Congressman Mark DeSaulnier and Ro Khanna. They then submitted it to the overbite and reform committee. This is NOW opening up talks regarding Family Court Reform. There was also a Federal Civil Rights Case Mark filed, 17-cv-00252. Apparently, Federal Judge William Orrick, III (also the judge that handled the First Trump Travel Ban), ruled on his case that said judges have absolute immunity from suit even though VIOLATING your CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS. Mark's case has spanned over 18 years. He has been in front of 15 judges, 3 commissioners, 73 hearings and hauled into court 11 times by warrant. He hasn't seen his kiddos for less than one months worth of hours. In all this time, his ex-wife has never once been held accountable for not showing up with the kids. The kids haven't been allowed to come over for visits in the summer, nor has their father been allowed to take his son to a football game. He has had to visit in a four block radius in a town called Sonoma. NO PARENT SHOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS. Divorced since 2002, Mark has last seen his kids the first week of January, where they came to his home. The last time he saw his two children together was April of 2008. Mark last saw his son for one hour in a therapist's office costing $125.00/hour. Taken by False Allegations, Mark has lost two years of visitation. The judge violated Civil Rights in a Family Court proceeding. We discussed case law, laws and what can be done in the future to hold those accountable that do not follow the law. To Reach Mark: nottobetakenaway@live.com and cell number: 707-280-7425 Mark also runs I Am The Storm Podcast Kids Matter--Fraud Upon The Court--Family Law Courts Are Corrupt on YouTube https://monicaszymonik.mykajabi.com/Masterclass USE CODE SLAM THE GAVEL PODCAST FOR 10% OFF THE COURSE http://www.dismantlingfamilycourtcorruption.com/ Music by: mictechmusic@yahoo.com Support the show (https://www.buymeacoffee.com/maryannpetri)
Mr. Jacobs is a 6th & 7th grade Social Studies teacher in New York City. He has been teaching for 10yrs and has a BS in psychology, 2 MBA degrees in Management & Finance, and a Masters in Education. He started 3 sides hustles and non-profit while teaching. Learn more about Ms. Black:Website: http://www.stayingingtheblk.comInstagram:@stayingintheblk
Hector Ramos is a Process Server and Good Friend. We talk about Only Fans Money, Going to the Casino and Me Moving. : Please Write a Review and Like/Subscribe to the Podcast! You can support the podcast by purchasing Merch HERE : Follow Me on all Socials @Babs_Lyfe : Special Thank you to our sponsor “The Stage” edm’s central hub for all edm content—> https://www.stagehoppers.com
Birth Mother Matters Adoption Season 2,Episode #163: You Got Served; A Conversation With A Process Server Listen to Dana, a Process Server with 30 years experience. In Arizona, when a potential birth father is named by a birth mother is named, that birth father is provided with notice of the adoption. In some situations, a process server is used to provide notice. Listen to one aspect of the adoption process. Listen. Learn. Love.
This week, we talk two businesses for sale.-A process server in the southeast US-A nursery business with land in the midwestGot a small biz listing for sale we should analyze? Send us a deal!-----* Do you love Acquanon and want to see our smiling faces? Subscribe to our Youtube channel.* Do you enjoy our content? Rate our show!* Follow us on twitter @acquanon Learnings about small business acquisitions and operations.-----Past guests on Acquanon include Nick Huber, Brent Beshore, Aaron Rubin, Mike Botkin, Ari Ozick, Mitchell Baldridge, Xavier Helgelsen, Mike Loftus, Steve Divitkos, Dzmitry Miranovich, Morgan Tate and more.-----Additional episodes you might enjoy:#62 Two Landscaping Businesses for Sale - Mike Loftus CEO of Connor's Landscaping#66 Analyzing Software Businesses for Sale with Steve Divitkos, experienced industry CEO#42 $900k Moving and Storage Company / $500k Rural Mini-Storage#61 Two Manufacturing Businesses for Sale - Brent Beshore - Founder and CEO at Permanent Equity#24 $5mm pool services and lifeguard staffing co / $2mm septic services business - featuring baller @WilsonCompanies as a special guest!#45 $800k/yr cleaning business in Midland, TX / a $565k/yr window cleaning business in San Antonio, TX #48 Two Landscaping Businesses for Sale - Mike Botkin of Benchmark Group--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/dealtalk/support
This week, we talk two businesses for sale. -A process server in the southeast US -A nursery business with land in the midwest Got a small biz listing for sale we should analyze? Send us a deal! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/dealtalk/support
Musical Credit for Hillbilly Soul Sista Promo Hillbilly Swing by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/5705-hillbilly-swing License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ The Great Gildersleeve (1941-1957), initially written by Leonard Lewis Levinson, was one of broadcast history's earliest spin-off programs. Built around Throckmorton P. Gildersleeve, a character who had been a staple on the classic radio situation comedy Fibber McGee and Molly, The Great Gildersleeve enjoyed its greatest success in the 1940s. Actor Harold Peary played the character during its transition from the parent show into the spin-off and later in a quartet of feature films released at the height of the show's popularity. On Fibber McGee and Molly, Peary's Gildersleeve was a pompous windbag who became a consistent McGee nemesis. "You're a haa-aa-aa-aard man, McGee!" became a Gildersleeve catch phrase. The character was given several conflicting first names on Fibber McGee and Molly, and on one episode his middle name was revealed as Philharmonic. Gildy admits as much at the end of "Gildersleeve's Diary" on the Fibber McGee and Molly series (10/22/40). He soon became so popular that Kraft Foods - looking primarily to promote its Parkay margarine spread - sponsored a new series with Peary's Gildersleeve as the central, slightly softened, and slightly befuddled focus of a lively new family.
Hey Y'all, welcome back to the show! We are on episode 19! Today I have Nicholas Ayers joining us from Mesa, AZ. Nicholas is a video advertising expert who has spent the last 20 years mastering his craft. He currently runs www.madeyoulookvideo.com where he teaches clients how to produce top quality, high converting ads that get your business more leads and of course more customers. His journey hasn't always been easy though. At one point he had to work as a process server in Oakland, CA driving around sketchy neighborhoods delivering papers. He's even had guns pulled on him before! He knew he wanted to make a change and that he did! In this episode he shares how he did it. Enjoy the show :) Follow on IG @Thisisnickayers
Jessica Jester Saucedo is a certified Process Server in Texas and she is leading up the TXAPPS expo. She is an experienced Process Server and we have a great conversation.
Jason Burke is the President of DR Legal Process Service LLC is a pro at getting good reviews on Google. Listen to this episode and learn how a fellow Process Server dominates his area using google reviews.
Rob Henderson from Austin Texas drops some major value on us in this todays episode. Give it a listen and tell me what you think.
Robin comes from a family of Law Enforcers and she has fostered and developed that in her own family. She is a highly accomplished Investigator that has worked on a variety of high profile cases and appearing on the news and various talk shows. Her story is amazing and her techniques for growing a brand and tactically finding information is unparalleled. Listen to the episode and tell us what you think. Sponsor: PSDUNIVERSITY.COM
PROCESS SERVER - DUI/DWI - ALTERCATION WITH A STRANGER - ACCIDENT IN YOUR HOME - JURY DUTY *** THE MASSI MEMO with ROBERT MASSI - 1ST & 3RD FRIDAYS of EVERY MONTH *** What do you say when a Process Server asks you who you are & is ready to hand you an envelope? You're coaching a little league game and an angry parent pushes you during a heated dispute about his son being taken out during the 2nd inning...now what? Jury Duty Summons - To Throw Away or Not Throw Away - That is the question! Robert delivers invaluable insight on 5 very common issues that will prepare you for when one of them happens to you. We also share some entertaining personal experiences that add humor throughout the entire show - Legal & Laughs...what a perfect combination. This is definitely worth listening to! Everything Home...the Transformational Show where we talk about LIFE * STUFF * BALANCE & promote Good People, doing Good Business & Good Things! www.EverythingHomeTalkShow.com For Robert's information & all of our Guests & Experts' episodes IT'S TIME TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF YOUR LIFE! LISTEN, SUBSCRIBE, LIKE & FOLLOW: with Host Michele Swinick - Great Guests, Giveaways & a Ginormous Resource of FREE Information for EVERYTHING HOME! ******************************** WHAT'S YOUR 7-MINUTE STORY TO SHARE? It's time you let the world know who you are, what you do & most importantly...WHY you do it! WE'RE HERE TO HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN... http://www.BeTheExpertExperience.com
May 18 and 19th: Skydancer: cowboys and aliens. Mike Bara, Derrel Sims, Jimmy Roberts, and Doc Miller. DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Houston Arpthttps://www.skydancerufocon.com/ Derrel Sims, Alien abduction expert & star of Uncovering Aliens Derrel Sims, is a former Senior Military Police Officer and Ex Covert Operations (2 years C.I.A.). Derrel is Currently a Licensed Private Investigator and a Process Server for the federal courts in Texas. He brings a strong "investigative aspect" to the UFO phenomena. Derrel owns the Houston UFO Network, and the Chief Investigator for (Hufon) & Saber Enterprises. The short version is, I'm in Texas private investigator. I quit college and volunteered during the Vietnam War. While I was in the military, I was" sheet dipped" into the Company. I'm remained in covert operations in the CIA for two years. My involvement with UFO phenomena started at age 4 and it ended violently at age 17. For 13 years I had a pretty rough go of the abduction phenomena. I was okay with that until they came and got my son. I went from the victim, to the alien hunter. My primary interest in the UFO / paranormal phenomena, is physical evidence. I discovered the implant phenomena in 1960 at age 12. I was a recipient of one such object. I was conscious during the event. And 1992 at discovered that the aliens left a florescent trace on their victims if they physically took them somewhere. I've conducted 25 surgeries worldwide, looking for the alien implants. The last surgical intervention was in new Delhi, India. The search continues. Derrel Sims, R.H.A.,CM.Ht. The Alien Hunter www.AlienHunter.org www.AlienHunterTheMovie.org THE HOUSTON UFO NETWORK AT www.meetup.com/The-Houston-Ufo-Network/ www.meetup.com/Paranormal-Planet/ AND www.meetup.com/KeynotePresentations GO TO FACEBOOK.COM: www.facebook.com/DerrelSimsTheAlienHunter (Please "like" us)there Deborah Burns producer of the Sky Dancer Paranormal and UFO Conference. Show Stuff TeePublic Store - Get your UBR goodies today! http://tee.pub/lic/2GQuXxn79dg UBR Trurh Seekers Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/216706068856746 Manny Moonraker: https://www.facebook.com/MannyMoonraker/ UFO Buster Radio: https://www.facebook.com/UFOBusterRadio YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCggl8-aPBDo7wXJQ43TiluA To contact Manny: manny@ufobusterradio.com, or on Twitter @ufobusterradio Call the show anytime at (972) 290-1329 and leave us a message with your point of view, UFO sighting, and ghostly experiences or join the discussion on www.ufobusterradio.com For Skype Users: bosscrawler
May 18 and 19th: Skydancer: cowboys and aliens. Mike Bara, Derrel Sims, Jimmy Roberts, and Doc Miller. DoubleTree by Hilton Hotel Houston Arpthttps://www.skydancerufocon.com/ Derrel Sims, Alien abduction expert & star of Uncovering Aliens Derrel Sims, is a former Senior Military Police Officer and Ex Covert Operations (2 years C.I.A.). Derrel is Currently a Licensed Private Investigator and a Process Server for the federal courts in Texas. He brings a strong "investigative aspect" to the UFO phenomena. Derrel owns the Houston UFO Network, and the Chief Investigator for (Hufon) & Saber Enterprises. The short version is, I'm in Texas private investigator. I quit college and volunteered during the Vietnam War. While I was in the military, I was" sheet dipped" into the Company. I'm remained in covert operations in the CIA for two years. My involvement with UFO phenomena started at age 4 and it ended violently at age 17. For 13 years I had a pretty rough go of the abduction phenomena. I was okay with that until they came and got my son. I went from the victim, to the alien hunter. My primary interest in the UFO / paranormal phenomena, is physical evidence. I discovered the implant phenomena in 1960 at age 12. I was a recipient of one such object. I was conscious during the event. And 1992 at discovered that the aliens left a florescent trace on their victims if they physically took them somewhere. I've conducted 25 surgeries worldwide, looking for the alien implants. The last surgical intervention was in new Delhi, India. The search continues. Derrel Sims, R.H.A.,CM.Ht. The Alien Hunter www.AlienHunter.org www.AlienHunterTheMovie.org THE HOUSTON UFO NETWORK AT www.meetup.com/The-Houston-Ufo-Network/ www.meetup.com/Paranormal-Planet/ AND www.meetup.com/KeynotePresentations GO TO FACEBOOK.COM: www.facebook.com/DerrelSimsTheAlienHunter (Please "like" us)there Deborah Burns producer of the Sky Dancer Paranormal and UFO Conference. Show Stuff TeePublic Store - Get your UBR goodies today! http://tee.pub/lic/2GQuXxn79dg UBR Trurh Seekers Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/216706068856746 Manny Moonraker: https://www.facebook.com/MannyMoonraker/ UFO Buster Radio: https://www.facebook.com/UFOBusterRadio YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCggl8-aPBDo7wXJQ43TiluA To contact Manny: manny@ufobusterradio.com, or on Twitter @ufobusterradio Call the show anytime at (972) 290-1329 and leave us a message with your point of view, UFO sighting, and ghostly experiences or join the discussion on www.ufobusterradio.com For Skype Users: bosscrawler
Oxford Professor Argues Invisible Aliens Are Interbreeding With Humans Article Link: https://www.oxfordstudent.com/category/current-affairs/comment/ •Dr Chi claims that aliens share our biosphere and are acting to overcome the effects of climate change. •Dr Chi outlined his views in a 2012 lecture and has since written a book. •In April 2018, Dr Chi approached The Oxford Union to propose a debate on the subject. The proposal was not accepted. The Oxford Student has learnt that Dr Young-hae Chi, Professor at Oxford's Oriental Institute, believes in a strong correlation between climate change and alien abductions. In 2012, Dr Chi gave a lecture at the the Ammach Conference, titled ‘Alien Abduction and the Environmental Crisis' in which he outlined his theory concerning the presence of aliens on earth. Dr Chi began his lecture with the statement that “perhaps human civilisation is coming to an end”. In his fifty-five minute presentation he cited Dr David Jacobs, an ‘abduction researcher' in the US, who argued that aliens' primary purpose is to colonise the earth, by interbreeding with humans to produce a new hybrid species. Second generation ‘hybrids' are, according to Jacobs, walking unobserved among us. Dr Chi argued that “it is not only scientists and theologians, but also non-human species who appear to be greatly concerned about the survivability of the human species”. He went on to argue that if we act now on climate change, “not only can we save ourselves, but also prove aliens wrong in their judgement of our moral capacity”. In April 2018, Dr Chi approached The Oxford Union to propose a debate on the subject. The proposed motion was: ‘Aliens exist on earth, Yes or no?'. However, this proposal was not accepted by the then president-elect. Since the conference, Dr Chi has developed his theory, writing a book in Korean, the title of which roughly translates to: ‘Alien Visitations and the End of Humanity'. Dr Chi believes that there are four types of aliens: small; tall and bold; aliens with scales and snake eyes; and finally, insect-like aliens. The latter of these seems to be the highest in the hierarchy, he said, and gives orders to the lower ranks. According to Dr Chi's theory, the fact that aliens and humans share the same biosphere means that climate change bears a negative impact on them, thus accounting for their increased interference in human affairs. Show Stuff TeePublic Store - Get your UBR goodies today! http://tee.pub/lic/2GQuXxn79dg UBR Trurh Seekers Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/216706068856746 Manny Moonraker: https://www.facebook.com/MannyMoonraker/ UFO Buster Radio: https://www.facebook.com/UFOBusterRadio YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCggl8-aPBDo7wXJQ43TiluA To contact Manny: manny@ufobusterradio.com, or on Twitter @ufobusterradio Call the show anytime at (972) 290-1329 and leave us a message with your point of view, UFO sighting, and ghostly experiences or join the discussion on www.ufobusterradio.com For Skype Users: bosscrawler Thursday May 2nd to UFO Buster Radio @6PM CST and join special guest Derrel Sims the Alien Hunter and Deborah Burns producer of the Houston Sky Dancer Paranormal and UFO Conference. #podcast #ufo #alien #interview #abduction #news Derrel Sims, Alien abduction expert & star of Uncovering Aliens Derrel Sims, is a former Senior Military Police Officer and Ex Covert Operations (2 years C.I.A.). Derrel is Currently a Licensed Private Investigator and a Process Server for the federal courts in Texas. He brings a strong "investigative aspect" to the UFO phenomena. Derrel owns the Houston UFO Network, and the Chief Investigator for (Hufon) & Saber Enterprises.
Oxford Professor Argues Invisible Aliens Are Interbreeding With Humans Article Link: https://www.oxfordstudent.com/category/current-affairs/comment/ •Dr Chi claims that aliens share our biosphere and are acting to overcome the effects of climate change. •Dr Chi outlined his views in a 2012 lecture and has since written a book. •In April 2018, Dr Chi approached The Oxford Union to propose a debate on the subject. The proposal was not accepted. The Oxford Student has learnt that Dr Young-hae Chi, Professor at Oxford's Oriental Institute, believes in a strong correlation between climate change and alien abductions. In 2012, Dr Chi gave a lecture at the the Ammach Conference, titled ‘Alien Abduction and the Environmental Crisis' in which he outlined his theory concerning the presence of aliens on earth. Dr Chi began his lecture with the statement that “perhaps human civilisation is coming to an end”. In his fifty-five minute presentation he cited Dr David Jacobs, an ‘abduction researcher' in the US, who argued that aliens' primary purpose is to colonise the earth, by interbreeding with humans to produce a new hybrid species. Second generation ‘hybrids' are, according to Jacobs, walking unobserved among us. Dr Chi argued that “it is not only scientists and theologians, but also non-human species who appear to be greatly concerned about the survivability of the human species”. He went on to argue that if we act now on climate change, “not only can we save ourselves, but also prove aliens wrong in their judgement of our moral capacity”. In April 2018, Dr Chi approached The Oxford Union to propose a debate on the subject. The proposed motion was: ‘Aliens exist on earth, Yes or no?'. However, this proposal was not accepted by the then president-elect. Since the conference, Dr Chi has developed his theory, writing a book in Korean, the title of which roughly translates to: ‘Alien Visitations and the End of Humanity'. Dr Chi believes that there are four types of aliens: small; tall and bold; aliens with scales and snake eyes; and finally, insect-like aliens. The latter of these seems to be the highest in the hierarchy, he said, and gives orders to the lower ranks. According to Dr Chi's theory, the fact that aliens and humans share the same biosphere means that climate change bears a negative impact on them, thus accounting for their increased interference in human affairs. Show Stuff TeePublic Store - Get your UBR goodies today! http://tee.pub/lic/2GQuXxn79dg UBR Trurh Seekers Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/216706068856746 Manny Moonraker: https://www.facebook.com/MannyMoonraker/ UFO Buster Radio: https://www.facebook.com/UFOBusterRadio YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCggl8-aPBDo7wXJQ43TiluA To contact Manny: manny@ufobusterradio.com, or on Twitter @ufobusterradio Call the show anytime at (972) 290-1329 and leave us a message with your point of view, UFO sighting, and ghostly experiences or join the discussion on www.ufobusterradio.com For Skype Users: bosscrawler Thursday May 2nd to UFO Buster Radio @6PM CST and join special guest Derrel Sims the Alien Hunter and Deborah Burns producer of the Houston Sky Dancer Paranormal and UFO Conference. #podcast #ufo #alien #interview #abduction #news Derrel Sims, Alien abduction expert & star of Uncovering Aliens Derrel Sims, is a former Senior Military Police Officer and Ex Covert Operations (2 years C.I.A.). Derrel is Currently a Licensed Private Investigator and a Process Server for the federal courts in Texas. He brings a strong "investigative aspect" to the UFO phenomena. Derrel owns the Houston UFO Network, and the Chief Investigator for (Hufon) & Saber Enterprises.
In this episode from Down Under Investigations, Simon & Sarah explain why should use a process server, and not serve papers yourself. Down Under Investigations is a team of licensed and experienced private investigators that operate Australia wide. We are passionate about our field, and dedicated to obtaining the results you require. For more information, please visit downunderinvestigations.com
It seems to me that most of us as Black People do not have the necessary sense of urgency needed to maintain a righteous balance that will protect us as we are targeted for termination under this system of White Supremacy. Many of us are in denial of our plight but the facts remain that we are the most despised people on the planet earth and most who benefit from our oppression have a problem with us even realizing this fact because of the actions that we are taking to break their exploitation of us that has been quite profitable to their existence. Brother Keston hits home in this powerful dialogue guaranteed to open up you EYE in a very efficient manner. What I love about Keston's passionate verbal delivery is that He makes it so clear that even a rock can understand it! If you walk away from listening to his message and don't have a clue as to what he shared it is most definitely a sign that you don't want to know the truth and what must be done! That's okay because as long as the message is delivered the weight of responsibility is off of His back and now onto yours. Just as in the same manner a Process Server delivers sensitive legal documents to an unknowing individual who may have been dodging the courts.......all I can say is.......YOU HAVE BEEN SERVED THE TRUTH! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/lancescurv/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/lancescurv/support
Mighty Mike: What's up, Server Nation? My name is Michael Reid, the Podcast Server. You are listening to Process Server Daily. On this podcast, we interview the top legal support professionals and get the tips, tools and tactics that they use to get the job done and build a successful company. I'm a big fan of storytelling and I'm excited about today's guest. Mighty Mike: Before we get started, let's give a big shout out to my new sponsor, ServeManager. They have a special gift for all of my listeners at the end of today's episode. Mighty Mike: Okay, Server Nation. We are joined by the owner of On Time Process Services, located in Klamath Falls, Oregon. He specializes in skip trace investigation and serving hard to find individuals. Gary Clayton, welcome to the show. Gary Clayton: Thank you. Mighty Mike: It's good to have you on. Gary, tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got started in this industry. Gary Clayton: So I started in 2014, as kind of a just a side gig as I worked for Sears for approximately 10 years. I went through a divorce myself and during the processes of the divorce, I had to hire a process server to serve my ex-wife. It took him about five minutes, cost $125 that was the moment that said I was in the wrong industry. Mighty Mike: That's so funny, because that's exactly how I got started. Except for he got paid ... Actually, I'm the one who got served and he told me he got paid 50 bucks. How funny. It's crazy. Gary Clayton: Yeah. Mighty Mike: Some of the saddest moments in our lives end up giving us the greatest joys, so that's pretty cool. And so, how about now, you got a family? Gary Clayton: Yeah, so I got five kids, a wife. Being in this industry and being a business owner, sometimes it's got its ups and its downs, and I like the idea of being able to make my own schedule to be with the kids more or with the wife more. Mighty Mike: Yeah, family's definitely the most important and that's one of the reasons I started my own business because I didn't someone to tell me that my life would be turned upside down because I missed one day to go to my daughter's dance recital or something like that. I didn't want anyone to have that kind of control over me and so I'm with you there, brother. Mighty Mike: So Gary, there's a reason why you're on this show, as I always say, you know everybody's got different things going on, but I noticed you over the last doing a lot of really cool things, and so sometimes in the most tragic things come out the greatest triumphs, and so what is your worst experience working the field? Gary Clayton: So probably our worst experience was doing a serve for a divorce party kind of like that are what a majority of our serves are. And we were actually, there two of us servers out there, me and a colleague and we had actually gotten held at gunpoint by three individuals, two males and a female, for about two hours before we had actually gotten rescued. Gary Clayton: That was probably our worst experience as far as serving goes. Mighty Mike: Wow, so tell me more about that. And I don't wanna take you back to you know, much trauma, but take me back to the moment when they were ... did they just pull the gun out, you were at the door, knocking on the door? How did it happen? Gary Clayton: Yeah, so we walked up, we knew it was gonna be a difficult serve, and we were warned that the defendant actually had firearms and was hostile. So we went in a team. We knocked on the door, as soon as we knocked on the door, the defendant opened the door and had had a pistol in his hand right, both me and my colleague. Gary Clayton: We proceeded just to back out of the situation, but as soon as we backed out, two individuals come around the side of house, and both of them had pistols as well. So we were kinda trapped. I was able to reach down and hit real quick on my phone for dispatch, and I threw the phone into the bed of my truck and it took them a little while to get out there to us. Gary Clayton: But we were pretty well trapped, they had us go around to the back of that house and we were stuck there. Mighty Mike: Oh my gosh, what do you think they were gonna do? What were they saying? Gary Clayton: Well there's so many things that go through your head at that time. We were both confident that we were gonna get out safe, but when you're in the moment, five minutes turns into five hours in a couple of seconds. You know it's just crazy how fast it goes. Gary Clayton: When the sheriff's department pulled up there, and finally got us out of that situation, it felt like a ton of bricks off of your shoulders. Mighty Mike: Wow, so tell me about when the sheriff arrived. I mean, they had to have came out guns blazing, right? I mean, hey, "Put your guns down," this type of thing, or? Gary Clayton: Well, actually what happened was, because they didn't have any communication back and forth through the phone, it was just an open line, they didn't really know what was going on. So they came in being cautious, but they didn't bring nearly enough manpower with them. And so it was one officer that came out and once he kinda realized what was going on, he retreated back to his car and then that's when they just started coming in from every angle. Gary Clayton: The defendant and his team, the two individuals that was with him, they came to their senses fairly quick, put their guns down, and surrendered. Mighty Mike: Oh, okay, good. Yeah. That's a pretty ... man that's an intense situation. I've actually never had something that intense. Mighty Mike: You know, I gotta tell you, being able to have ... in the pre-show, we had a little conversation about, you know, being connected to dispatch and stuff. You guys have that privilege I guess you could call it, to be able to speak directly to dispatch, right? Gary Clayton: Yeah, so we all have radios here, where we had to go to actually a pretty extensive training class, each one of us, to be able to connect with dispatch. And when we're out in the areas where cell phones don't work, that's our only communication and so dispatch is pretty good at making sure we're checking in with them and they're checking in with us. Gary Clayton: And if we need backup, depending on what it is, they'll send a sheriff out. We had the incident last week that you had seen online about me following an individual down into California. We had actually radioed to dispatch to see if they would assist us in stopping the vehicle and they were like, "Nope, it's civil, follow them until he stops or you run out of gas." Mighty Mike: Wow, that's crazy. And then, in that story, you followed him down there and then the, what is it, CHP, the state police? Gary Clayton: Yeah, we were originally at the individual, the defendant's house, and as soon as we'd seen him pull in, we pulled in behind him and he was able to wedge his self around my car. And so I pulled out, followed him through town, he jumped on Highway 97, which a highway here, and he started heading towards south. Gary Clayton: A lot of the individuals here Klamath, since we're so close to California, they think that if they go into California, that they can't be served. So as soon as they get on 97 South, we automatically know that they're heading into California, so we contact the Department of Agriculture down there, 'cause they have the transfer station, the bus station we call 'em. Gary Clayton: And they'll typically assist us in stopping 'em, however this day, there was a CHP officer that was actually passing through about ten minutes before we were coming through, and the transfer station supervisor actually stopped CHP and asked him if he would hang out to assist with that. And they did, they were really good at helping us with it. Gary Clayton: However it ended up being a pretty serious situation, they did step in and help us. Mighty Mike: So, a couple things I want to say about your worst experience. First of all, do everything you can to be prepared, because when you think, "Oh, it's probably just one guy, and we got this handled. You know, I got my gun, if he has a gun then we'll handle it," right? Mighty Mike: I know that's a very simplified version, but you know, in this case there were multiple people and then if you did have a gun, now you're having a shootout with three guys. I mean, it's insane what can happen if you're trigger happy. That's one thing. Mighty Mike: It's insane, I mean, did anyone end up getting shot that day? Gary Clayton: No, there was no gunfire and actually we don't carry here. Each one of my process servers, I allow them to make the decision, however, I strongly discourage my individuals or my process servers from carrying, maybe keeping it in a vehicle or something like that. Gary Clayton: We've seen in the past with open carry or concealed carry if the defendant or the individual we're serving sees it, it brings a higher threat. And so we were seeing a lot of pushback from it, so without having a firearm ... Gary Clayton: And yeah, it's a dangerous industry, but we were able to eliminate a lot of problems just by taking the firearms out of the equation. Mighty Mike: Yeah that's, I mean, each business has to make the decision based on their area, based on their ability to handle different situations and I think that's commendable that you made that decision. Mighty Mike: I think maybe too, another way could be to have a concealed weapons permit so that ... I'm not familiar with Oregon's laws on that. Are you able to, is it a law where you can conceal carry? Gary Clayton: Yeah, you can conceal carry. And my process servers, they do conceal carry. We just try to keep the intensity between a firearm and open carry at a bay. Mighty Mike: Well what I get from your story most is be prepared, and be cool and calm and collected and then to be able to get your phone like that and hit it and throw it in the back of the truck the way that you did, I don't know that I could have or would've done, thought to do something like that. 'Cause had you not done that, you'd have been at their mercy for who knows how long. Gary Clayton: Right yeah, and so the idea was that when we went into this group, we were prepared because we had gotten word beforehand that the individual may act like this. So before we'd even gotten to the house, we had already had 911 dialed into our phones. 'Cause we didn't know what we were walking into. And you never know what you're walking into. You can walk in and they can have a conversation with you for 20 minutes about their day, or you can walk into guns. Mighty Mike: And sometimes you walk in to have a five-minute conversation, and then they find out you're there to serve them, and then they're pulling out guns. That can happen too. Mighty Mike: Well, that's great. So Gary, what do you want Server Nation to get from your story, your worst experience? Gary Clayton: Well, just to be safe and always be prepared. And the idea is to go home, if you have a family, to go home to your family every day, or if you don't have a family to go home alive every day. You know, stay safe and always be prepared for the worst. Mighty Mike: So Gary, that's awesome. Tell me your greatest experience working in the field? Gary Clayton: So this actually just happened not too long ago. We had a locate, a serve locate. It was kind of like a will, where an individual here in Klamath County was getting an inheritance from relatives out of Texas, and we were hired to do a locate and then to do the serve. Gary Clayton: And when we did the locate and found that this individual who was inheriting a large amount of money had to be notified of it, we were kind of intrigued that most of the time we're bringing bad news to people and this instance, it wasn't bad news, it was kind of a cool story where this guy has been living a mediocre life working 9 to 5, and now he no longer has to. Gary Clayton: So it was kind of a cool experience to have. Mighty Mike: That's a really cool experience. How much money was it? Gary Clayton: Oh, you know, I don't remember right off hand, but I think we're ... it was well over $2,000,000. Mighty Mike: Oh man, how much did you make on that one? Gary Clayton: Well, first we quoted it at 65 for this serve, and then at 65 an hour to do the locator, 125, whichever one we went to. Afterward we were like, wow, we don't think we charged enough for this one. Mighty Mike: Exactly. You were more like private security for that delivery. Gary Clayton: Yeah, you know the funny thing is, is that the individual when we were going to serve them, he avoided us. For several weeks he avoided us. We had a location form, we tried to explain to him what it was and he didn't believe it, he kinda blew us off. And then finally when we got him pinned down to actually get him served with the notice of what he needed to do next, it was ... he still didn't believe it. It took him several minutes to actually comprehend what was going on. Mighty Mike: Wow. And so you just never know, that's one of the other cool things that I love about this industry, is you never know what you're gonna get. You know one day, you know ... I don't know. You get some of the same things over and over, and I look at it like those keep the lights on. And then other days you get things you're like, yeah, this is cool. And I get to serve a pro-NBA player, you know? Or you know, Fergie or you know you go serve some celebrity that's always fun. Gary Clayton: And challenging. Mighty Mike: And challenging. We're up here in the sticks, you're further up in the sticks, but I'm up in Chico and it's still pretty far up here, so the best we get is I guess, Tom Hanks. He lives in Redding. Gary Clayton: That's always fun. Mighty Mike: Yeah, good deal. So that's great, that's what I get from your story. What do you want Server Nation to get from your greatest experience? Gary Clayton: Take everything positive. And enjoy what you're doing. If you don't enjoy what you're doing in a career, then you always should change things up. So even though we're typically, as I call doing this devil's work, or bearing bad news for people, you're just a messenger. It's all we are is we're messengers. We're just out here to do our job and be positive with it. Gary Clayton: If you're ... Most of the time if you go out, and you're negative when you're going out to do these serves, you're gonna get a negative reaction. If you go out and you be positive with these individuals or these defendants, they're only defendants to somebody else, they're not a defendant to you. So being positive can take you a long way. Mighty Mike: That's great. Gary, what are you working on right now that has you most excited? Gary Clayton: So we're actually expanding. Our biggest thing right now is that we want to move from just Klamath County or Oregon, we serve all of Oregon, but we wanna take this nationwide with the approach that what On Time Process Services has been doing for multiple years. You can go to our Facebook page or our Google page, and you can see our reviews that we've even had positive reviews from individuals that we've served. And we wanna be able to take that across the nation and open it up across the nation and we're working, doing our due diligence to make everything work right. Mighty Mike: What I take from what you're most excited about, you say you're growing nationwide. How does somebody even fathom that when they're just starting out. How do they go from just starting out to where you're at, where you're like, "Okay, we're getting ready to set off on a nationwide jaunt."? Gary Clayton: So I would say, starting out, definitely get used to your area, the law, the restrictions, and the way service is done before you even approach going nationwide. If you can't make your local customers happy, the chances of you going nationwide and making customers all across the country happy is probably gonna be slim. Gary Clayton: Know your area, know what you're doing, read, do a lot of research, reach out to mentors. NAPPS is a very good platform for new process servers to reach out to and get the education that they need. Gary Clayton: Your local associations is also huge, you know reaching out to your local associations. Mighty Mike: Yeah, Gary does Oregon have an association? Gary Clayton: Yeah, Oregon has the Oregon Association of Process Servers. I think the people that's been sitting on the board has been doing it for quite a long time, and we're not too involved with the association, we're members of the association, but we're working on our business, our [inaudible 00:16:32], our PR, to work with that, to start moving that in the direction we want it to. Mighty Mike: That's great, so if you're an Oregon process server, definitely go and check out the Oregon Association, the National Association of Process Servers. Mighty Mike: Server Nation, Gary has been dropping some major value bombs on us today, but prepare yourself because we're headed into the rapid fire round right after a word from our sponsors. Mighty Mike: Server Nation, imagine what you could do with another 25 minutes per job. This is how much time process servers who use ServeManager are saving. At just 100 jobs per month, that's over 40 hours that can be spent growing your business but doing more important things like spending time with your family. From job creation to affidavit generation, ServeManager is fully featured and hands down the most intuitive process serving software on the market. I use it for my business, I think you should use it too. Mighty Mike: In my firm it's important for me to be able to automate the systems that get things done. ServeManager has done just that with their API integration, where you can set up literally any app that integrates with Zapier will integrate with ServeManager. I love it. I have set my whole firm up. Mighty Mike: Go to ProcessServerDaily.com/ServeManager to get your free trial. If you like it after the 14 day free trial, they've offered to give you another 60 days for free as a thank you for being a Process Server Daily listener. That's ProcessServerDaily.com/ServeManager. Mighty Mike: Okay, welcome back to the show. Gary, are you ready for the rapid fire round? Gary Clayton: Absolutely. Mighty Mike: Awesome. What is your favorite skip trace tactic? Gary Clayton: I would definitely say that we use court records a lot. Most of the defendants that we're trying to locate at one point in time or another they've either had a traffic violation or some of type of a civil case. Gary Clayton: And you can pull a lot of information just from your local court records. I know Oregon is huge, we're set up with tailor hosting, which we get to pull all the records for that. And then of course we run plates. DMV's really good here, we can link [inaudible 00:18:46], we can run names and first and last name with a possible date of birth, and they give us a lotta information from that as well too. Mighty Mike: Yeah, California's got it pretty locked up unless you have a, I think there's maybe 500 certificates or something like that. It's very difficult to get that kind of information here. That's pretty cool that Oregon does that. Are you able to just be able to just search it right on the database or do you have to call 'em, or? Gary Clayton: There are multiple platforms so you can, for DMV we can call in, so if we're in the field and we have an individual who believes is there, we have a car in the driveway, we'll run the plate right there and if it comes back to that individual, we'll go up and confront him that. Gary Clayton: We can call in, we can fax it in, or they'll have an online access come 2020, they're gonna go online for DMV. Court documents, we can call or we can access it online for court documents. Mighty Mike: Wow, that's really cool. So you're the first person who's come on this show and mentioned the court documents, so I wanna dig a little ... I know this is rapid fire round but I want people to learn from it as well. Mighty Mike: So when it comes to a court document, do you go ... so you get Michael Reid, how do you use the court documents. Do you search for my name via the court record? Gary Clayton: Yeah, so we can pull up records with just a name, first and last name, and then we can kinda plug and play to see where it's at. It's not just putting in somebody's name, and then you get just that individual, 'cause there's a lot of Gary Claytons and there's a lot of Michaels out there. Gary Clayton: You have to pinpoint ... if we have a small claims document we're serving, we can see that they have this small claims, so we can link it to that individual and then we go back and ... We had a hard to find individual, the credit union, that we were looking for. They were trying to find this individual for almost a year, and then they contacted us. Gary Clayton: We put him into the court records, and come to find out, he had a restraining order put on him a couple weeks ago and so we were able to link the address to where he was served by the sheriff's department to link right back to him. So it was a very good tactic to be able to use that and the credit union didn't have that information. Mighty Mike: What is your favorite skip tracing tool? Gary Clayton: Favorite tool ... I like Delvepoint, I think it is? Or IDI, I like both of those programs. I really use, I try to go for what is inexpensive first. There's actually a program out there called SpyFly.com and it's very inexpensive, and it gives you pretty good record information. Gary Clayton: Sometimes you have to look through and go through different things, but SpyFly was our number one platform that we used for a long time. Mighty Mike: What is your favorite tool for defense? Gary Clayton: So, favorite tool for defense is for one, our dispatch. Being able to reach out to dispatch, that's huge for defense for us. Gary Clayton: I use ... I don't carry a firearm, but I do carry a baton or ASP. I carry a bear mace just in case. And also, my flashlight. I have a high powered flashlight and if I'm serving at night, ain't nobody gonna see me once that goes into their eyes. Mighty Mike: Is it like a spotlight? Gary Clayton: It's not really a spotlight, it's Bushnell, it's just a high powered, high Lumens Flashlight. Mighty Mike: What book would you recommend? Gary Clayton: The NAPPS book, that's what I would recommend. Mighty Mike: Yeah, that's a good one, no that's a good one. It's actually kind of shocking that those books are huge, and they ship 'em out to all the members. Mighty Mike: What is the greatest advice you have ever received? Gary Clayton: So, the greatest advice that I have ever received, I have a mentor that's been in the industry for about 35 years that retired out and I ended up purchasing his business from him just to basically let him out and take over the contracts that he had. And he said, "Always be pleasant. Always be pleasant to the person you're serving, don't ever come at 'em with judgment. If you're judging the individual, it's not your place to judge, whatever they're going through is their own deal, it's not your deal, so don't ever judge 'em." Mighty Mike: Yeah Gary, that's perfect. Being able to go out and to be able to handle yourself well around people and not judging them. Okay, that's great advice. Mighty Mike: Gary, what parting piece of advice do you have for the struggling server out there, where his business is circling the drain? What advice do you have for that server? Gary Clayton: Always pay, if you're outsourcing serves, always pay your outsource companies in advance or fairly quickly. Customer service is huge. If you're making your customers or your clients happy, they're gonna come back and use you every time. Gary Clayton: We're fairly expensive for our area, roughly $35 more than any other server in our area. So we have a majority of the business just because they can track our information online. We send them regularly updates, and they know that they can call and get one of us on the phone at any time of the day. Gary Clayton: I'm not saying answer your phone at ten o'clock at night, but customer service is huge and it's key for this industry. Mighty Mike: So Gary, what I take most from what you just said is that, 'cause you said to pay your servers on time and to pay them ahead of time, many times if you deal with these big process serving companies, many times how a lot of severs get started, right? They contact all these companies all over the country and say, "Hey, I can do your serves." Mighty Mike: But even though they're doing serves so inexpensive, they end up still being owed, you know, five thousand, seven thousand, some outrageous amount by this huge company that should be able to pay them on time. Gary Clayton: Yeah, definitely. You know, I have a philosophy about the big companies out there. It's different for different areas. My area is small, we don't have a lot of people, a lot of process servers to choose from here. But if you're in a secluded area where you don't have a lot of competition, if you are not using those big companies, then that serve's still gotta be done. And if they can't get that big company to do that serve, who are they gonna call? They're gonna call you, and you're gonna get that business, and you're not gonna be paying the middle person. Gary Clayton: I started out doing serves for ABC and a lot of other pro reps and other big companies, and then I slowly kind of backed out because I was paying them for what I was gonna do anyway. Mighty Mike: Hey brother, one man's failure is another man's success, you gotta capitalize on that stuff, so that's good Gary. I really feel Server Nation has gained a lot from this interview. Mighty Mike: Gary, what is the best that we can connect with you? And then we can say goodbye. Gary Clayton: You can go to www.ontimeproserv.com without the e at the end, or 541-810-3411. Look up process servers for Oregon, we come up typically #1. Or if you wanna get directly to me, call our office in Klamath Falls, 541-810-2172. Gary Clayton: I'd be more than happy to, if anybody's out there that's wanting to get into process serving, or has questions about it, give me a call, I'll sit down. I'm all about working for yourself and mentoring with the information that I have. Mighty Mike: Gary, I wanna personally thank you for being on the show today. I've been impressed with your story and I'm excited to share it with the world. Gary Clayton: Thank you Michael for having me on the show. It was a pleasure. Mighty Mike: Until next time Server Nation, you've been served up some awesomeness On Time Gary, and Mighty Mike, the Podcast Server. Mighty Mike: Don't forget to get your free 14 day free trial of ServeManager. If you like it, you get another 60 days for free, Server Nation. 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Mighty Mike: What's up Server Nation? My name is Michael Reid, the podcast server. You are listening to Process Server Daily. On this podcast, we interview the top legal support professionals and get the tips, tools, and tactics that they use to get the job done and build a successful company. I'm a big fan of storytelling and I'm excited about today's guest. Mighty Mike: Before we get started, let's give a big shout out to my new sponsor, Server Manager. We have a special gift for all of my listeners at the end of today's episode. Mighty Mike: Okay, Server Nation. We are joined here by the owner of Love to Serve Them, LLC. He has 20 years of experience serving papers both privately and for Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. He has covered Los Angeles County and surrounding counties in Southern California since March of 2012. Dave Luce, welcome to the show. Dave Luce: Thanks Mike, glad to be here. Mighty Mike: Awesome, Dave. Tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got started in the industry? Dave Luce: Well, I started serving papers in 1996. What had happened is the company I was working for ... The Northridge Earthquake happened and basically imploded the owner's house. So that business went away. And I was in the bar one night talking to one of my high school friends who had an attorney service. He was like, "Why don't you go come work for me for a while?" I was like, "Yeah, I'm not doing anything else right now." Dave Luce: And within a couple of months I started noticing that these attorneys were asking, "Hey, we want this Dave guy to go serve it." And probably about six months later, that business went belly-up. So I'm like, "Well hey, I'll just go get the license and bond." And then I went back to all these attorneys and was like, "Hey, I'm in business for me now. I just do the process service. Let the attorney service do your other stuff." So I already had a built-in clientele. Mighty Mike: That's awesome, Dave. Do you have a family? Dave Luce: Yeah, I have a family. One daughter. Was a single parent for her. We moved back in with my mom a couple years ago to help take care of her. She's 83 now. Mighty Mike: That's really cool, yeah. Family's really important. How old's your daughter? Dave Luce: She's 21. Mighty Mike: Whoa, that's cool. Adult kids. I look forward to that day. Dave Luce: Cherish the time now. Mighty Mike: That's what I hear. So, Dave, there's a reason why you're on the show. You have a lot going on. You're ... I watch you on Facebook and the different things, hearing your posts about the different awards that you've won and things like that. So I'm really excited to hear your story. Lots of good stories, I'm sure, that you have. But we always start here at Process Server Daily, we start with your worst experience working in the field. Tell us a little bit about that. Dave Luce: My worst experience definitely has to be with the Sheriff's Department. In 2003, I was serving a criminal subpoena on a lady for probably the 300th time in three years, and she sicked her 70-pound Chow on me. And I ended up putting two fractures in an ankle, 20 fractures in my knee, unit broke my wrist and got a nerve disease that spread body-wide from there. They were going after her for 8-10 for assault with intent, and she pled out to a year and a half in the state. But that's gotta definitely be my absolute worst because that ended that career. I was not able ... Because I had nerve disease, I could not return to active duty. Mighty Mike: Oh my gosh. And that was while you were with the Sheriff's Department? Dave Luce: Yes. Mighty Mike: Oh man. So it was a Chow Chow, the black ones with the purple tongue? Dave Luce: Yeah, yeah. I was about halfway back to my unit and I heard her open the door and was like, "Sick him." I used to carry a little micro cassette recorder in my pocket, because people would call in and say I said a derogatory name or whatever. And even though it's a he said-she said, something will go on my file. So I'm like, "Oh, no, no, no, no. This ain't happening." So I turn that on, radio in, and then continue on serving case number so-and-so on such-and-such and let it run. And then when I would get one of these complaints, I'd play that tape for my sergeant and my lieutenant. There's my proof that none of this happened, so nothing goes into my file. It's not for legal reasons, it's more just to CYA for me. Mighty Mike: Yeah, no. That's smart. Dave Luce: And you hear all of that on that tape. Mighty Mike: Yeah, that's smart. So you were able to hear the, "Sick him?" Dave Luce: Oh yeah. Mighty Mike: Okay. Dave Luce: And the funny thing is, is she came out and she's laughing because I couldn't get up off the ground. I couldn't even reach the microphone on my shoulder. I just had to hit the red button, what we call the EPIRB button, which as far as the department's concerned, I've just been shot. And you hear her laughing and then all of a sudden you hear her stop and literally every point on the compass sirens are screaming in. I'm right on the border of Altadena, so I've got Altadena sheriffs coming, Pasadena PD coming, fire, ambulance, helicopter. Mighty Mike: Wow. Dave Luce: Yeah. Mighty Mike: Oh, man. And now, did you already tell me? Did she do jail time? Dave Luce: She pled out to a year and a half. So I was like, "Welcome to the family." That's why I served her so many times. She wasn't a criminal, but her all her family and relatives were. And in LA County, only the Sheriffs can serve criminal subpoenas from the DAs and public defenders. And so at least once a week for three years, sometimes two or three times a week, just where she lived, I'd be banging on her door about 10 after five in the morning with one of these subpoenas. And she just went crazy that morning. Mighty Mike: I can't tell you how many times I've interviewed people and the response I got was, "You know, I served her a bunch of times," or, "I served him a bunch of times and I thought, it's gonna be fine. It's been fine every time before. And then this one time." Mighty Mike: And I gotta tell you, dogs are my biggest concern when I'm out serving. I carry a little taser. I don't carry it as much anymore. Maybe just I think I can handle myself more by having a gun and things, but I try not to ... I really don't carry very often. And as far as tasers go, have you ever carried a taser, Dave? Dave Luce: No. No. When needed I'll take a weapon with me, or I have body armor. I'll wear my body armor. But for the most part I just try to keep very low-key. And I've gotta say, I've had way more problems serving for the Sheriff's Department than I've ever had serving privately. Mighty Mike: So what I take privately from your story Dave, for the most part, is to CYA. Having that recorder on you allowed you to be able to prove that she wanted her dog to do that. In some circumstances, the dog could have bit you and she could have gotten in no trouble at all. The dog broke out of the gate, or whatever, depending on what her defense might be, so that was a really good thing. So this was an audio recorder, or a video recorder? Dave Luce: No, no, an audio. It's one of those little tiny cassette recorders where the cassette is maybe an inch. Totally old school. This 2003 when this happened, but I started doing it in 2001. Mighty Mike: Oh, okay. Dave Luce: Well no, 2000, because I started with the Sheriff's Department in 2000. Mighty Mike: But that's the technology that they had at that time and you guys were utilizing it, luckily, so that's a great story. What do you want Server Nation to get from your story? Dave Luce: Well for me, I think the best thing for any process server is to have total situational awareness. Be aware of what's going on around you, what's going on in front of you and what's going on behind you. Because I have some areas that I go into, covering all of Los Angeles County, that are really nasty areas. I've served down in Watts and Compton. I've never even felt fearful down there. Mighty Mike: Wow. Either that's because it's not as bad as they say or you're just a bad mamma jamma... Dave Luce: It can be as bad as they say, but like I said, I keep situational awareness. I see what's going on when I first pull up in front of the property. And if there's stuff going on that I don't feel safe doing it, I'll call for backup. I'll call LAPD or I'll call the local PD and say, "Hey, I'm a registered process server. I'm here to serve eviction papers. I just need some backup to keep the peace." And they respond. Mighty Mike: I was gonna say, do they ... Because in a lot of counties they're like, "Well, we'll see if we can send someone out." And you're there for an hour. Almost doesn't make sense to even sit around, because sometimes you wonder if they're even gonna show. So they were pretty supportive down there? Dave Luce: Yeah, they're very supportive. And you just tell them not, "I'm just here to serve this." It's, "I'm registered LA County." I give them my number. "And I'm here to serve such and such. This is what's going on. I just need some backup." Or, if I show up at say a private community, which as you know here in California, they have to allow us access when there's a guard at the gate. There have been some times where the guard doesn't want to let me in, and it's like, "Here's the deal. Either you let me in or I'm gonna call the PD. One, you're required by state law, and two, you could end up getting arrested for obstruction." Dave Luce: And every now and then they'll be like, "Yeah. No, go ahead and call." I had one, it was hilarious. I waited probably an hour, hour and a half for them to come. It was right up at the top of the mountains in Mulholland in the Hollywood Hills. The unit they dispatched was from Santa Monica, and it was a sergeant and a senior officer. And I said, "Yeah, I'm here. I showed them my ID and the papers and he wouldn't let me in. I even showed him the statute." He's like, "Wait a minute. You showed him the statute and he's still not letting you in?" No. Went right over to him. "You're gonna open this gate or I'm gonna put the cuffs on you. He showed you you're required to let him in." Dave Luce: "But they said we're not supposed to." "I don't care." And I went in and I served the papers and I came out, he was still lecturing this kid. Mighty Mike: That's cool. You like those little wins when you can stick it to them like that. That's awesome, Dave. Tell me about your greatest experience working in the field? Dave Luce: Well, my fondest one where I get the most satisfaction is where I get those people that just absolutely think I'm not gonna be able to get them. And that one I was just telling you about was actually one of those. And I had six bad addresses. And it was for a debtor examination, so I had to get her personally. Dave Luce: ... and it was for a debtor examination. So I had to get her personally and finally came up with this address and when I served her she was just ... Because I had another guard go with me, she's just screaming and losing her mind about, "You're not supposed to let them on here." I was like, "LAPD's out there, they said we have to let him go on." "Well, I'm going to have you fired." "I'm not getting fired over you." And I'd actually talked to her on the phone and she said, "Good luck finding me." And hung up. Mighty Mike: Oh wow. Dave Luce: So those are the ones that I'm just like, "Yeah." You know, the ones that I also really enjoy are when I can get somebody that is an abuser, someone that abuses women or children that I can get them served and get that restraining order on them. So that there's at least something to stop this abuse from going on. Those are the ones I get a really good satisfaction out of. Mighty Mike: Those are good ones. So, Dave, I gotta call you out on this one man. I know that you have a story in your back pocket that you call the greatest story of all time. We gotta hear it. Dave Luce: 20 years in this business, this story will never be beat. I've got an attorney-client that his ... one of his clients, he shares an office with a modeling agency and they've discovered that a lot of their models their images are being used without their knowledge and consent to advertise for strip clubs and swingers clubs and sex magazines. So in the last three years, I've probably served every stripper club, nudey bar, gentleman's club, sex rag in LA and Orange County. Mighty Mike: You poor guy. Dave Luce: And I got this one ... I got this one and it was for a swingers club down by USC campus and my family knows what I'm doing and when I get an amusing one I'll be like, "Oh this ought to be interesting." And I told my daughter, and so she actually looked the place up and I was out in the field and she called me and she's like, "Dad, Dad, guess what night it is at that place you're going." "I don't know, what night is it?" "It's pantsless night, what are you wearing?" "I'm not there to participate, I'm wearing my pants of course." So I get there and while I'm waiting for the owner to come out, this big white limousine, stretch limo pulls up and this fine woman, I mean a perfect ten gets out of the car holding a dog leash and I think, "Well it's going to be a little Pomeranian or something come out of the car." No. This guy comes out of the car wearing a leather hood and no top and assless chaps. Dave Luce: So I start laughing and this guy goes running up to me till he gets to the end of the dog leash and it's like eek, and now I'm busting a gut, I can hardly stand I'm laughing so hard, he's like "Officer, officer, I want your badge number, I'm reporting you to your supervisor." It's like, "Good luck with that, I own the company, besides that you're the one on the end of a dog collar wearing a leather hood and assless chaps. You earned the laugh." Mighty Mike: Oh man, that must have been quite an experience. Dave Luce: It was funny, like I said, 20 years in this business that story will never be beat. Mighty Mike: I don't think ... I'm going to put it on the show notes and we're going to see as time goes on, we'll see if anybody ... that'll be the challenge. Dave Luce: Okay, yeah, there you go. Mighty Mike: So Dave, what are you working on right now that has you most fired up? Dave Luce: Well as far as things in the industry, the thing that has me most fired up are the unscrupulous people that pass themselves off as professional servers. You know that they go out and they'll promise service or no payment or they charge a ridiculously small price. I mean I had a friend that she lost her house because of fraudulent service. Dave Luce: And she contacted me, she was in the middle of her house and got a notice that the house had been foreclosed and auctioned off and they had 30 days to leave. So she called me and I said, "Well the first thing you gotta do is you gotta get in that file and look at that proof of service because of your schedule, you're all over the place. And if you can prove you were not there and it says Personal Service you've got a case." So they've got a huge lawsuit going against the process server, the attorney service, the attorneys and the bank, but because it was already sold in auction she has no prayer of getting this house back and she was really devastated because three of her five kids were home birthed in that house. Mighty Mike: That's terrible. I experienced that same situation with a lot of the unlawful detainers I do in mobile home parks. A lot of times the mobile home park people, they do the eviction. I've actually done an eviction on a friend of mine because they were saying she was a nuisance, I told her, "You need to get an attorney." And she waited too long till the last minute and she ended up having to move out of the house. They get the property and they make it difficult, so even in the auction, you'd have to ... If you won the auction you'd have to move the trailer off the park, that's the way they word it. Mighty Mike: So sewer service has been running rampant, in a few other states I noticed that they were talking about passing a law to have cameras on process servers, it's one of the ideas that I saw that was proposed, and I'm not sure exactly what state it is, I'll have to look it up maybe post it in the show notes for this episode, but what do you think about that? Making something like that required for process servers? Dave Luce: Well, I think it was New York that actually changed their law that the anything that is served in attempts has to have some sort of a photo that's date, time and geocoded stamped and that's because of all the sewer service and I think the one, in particular, was ABC Legal got a huge judgment against them for that. Mighty Mike: I heard about that, yeah, ABC Legal. Dave Luce: And it's like ... Really the only attorney service that I do work for is called Firefly Legal, they've got 16 offices in the Midwest and the east coast and I'm contracted to do all their LA County stuff, and the reason I work for them is they pay me my rate. They don't pay me some pittance, they pay me my rate and when I do the attempts and stuff, as I've filling it out in their software it shows the geocode. You know, 'cause I have to put in all the other information, but right at the bottom, it shows the geocode where I'm at, the GPS location. So they have a record of that, so I think that kind of stuff is a really good idea. On my own if I'm doing a posting I just take a picture on my camera phone and that has that on that and then I'll print the picture out and sent it to the attorney so they've got it. Mighty Mike: Yeah, that's really good and now most of the apps have an option to be able to take a photograph and attach it right there on the job. You know, ServeManager, Tristar and I'm sure there are others that do the same thing. Mighty Mike: So Dave what do you want Server Nation to get from what you're working on right now? What do you think that the servers out there should be thinking about when it comes all of this sewer service talk? Dave Luce: I think the best thing is to keep very detailed notes. I keep hard copy notes of all my attempts, all service situations, who I've served, what their description is, and probably once a year I'll get called into court because of somebody's challenging service. And about half those times, once I write up my declaration and send it to the attorney I don't even have to show up, they just drop it and other times when I've actually had to go in and testify I've had the judge look them dead in the eyes and say, "You say you were out of town, I want to see some receipts and notes because according to his testimony and his description of you, you were absolutely served." Mighty Mike: That's good yeah, I always love when I go in there and they say they weren't served the notice, they always like to contest the notice, and I have a date and time and GPS stamped photograph of the posting on their house, you know, in some cases them walking into the door or whatever. And the judge just shakes his head like, "So you never saw this man. You know, come on." Dave Luce: I mean, another thing that I also do when I have to do a mailing is I send my clients back the receipt that shows that at this post office on this date at this time to this city and this zip code there was a letter sent. So that's further back up that the mailing went out. Mighty Mike: Are you talking about the certification, or are you just put them as the return address? Dave Luce: No when you do a posting and mailing. Mighty Mike: Yeah. Dave Luce: Or when you do a subserve and have to mail the copy. Mighty Mike: Oh the certified, yeah. Dave Luce: What I have to put on the proof of service, you know, I mailed a copy on this date from this location to the address where served. I'd make sure that I don't just ... You know I pay for it at the post office so I get that mailing receipt and then I send my clients that too so they've got more back up. Mighty Mike: Right, that's good. Yeah what we started doing was printing a ... You know how when you send certified, not certified, but just a first-class mail when you subserve something, we started putting our clients as the return address so we don't have to shred the documents and it's like a double verification when it gets sent back, 'cause a lot of times a lot of the evictions that we do it's a vacant property, so it ends up the certified stuff ends up getting send back to our client. 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Dave, are you ready for the Rapid Fire Round? Dave Luce: Yes, I am. Mighty Mike: What is your favorite skip trace tactic? Dave Luce: My favorite tactic is to definitely find out where they were before, get whatever information that I from the client first. Because then that allows me to do a better skip trace. Because it might be that one little piece of information that leads me to the correct information that I'm looking for. Mighty Mike: That's good. Do you use a form, or are you just working with email? Dave Luce: No, I just work it with email and whatever information. That's how I get most of my jobs is by email. They mail them to me by email, and I tell them I've printed and received OK, and then I keep them advised throughout the whole process. Mighty Mike: That's great. Dave, what's your favorite tool for defense? Dave Luce: Definitely would have to be my fists. I don't play around. Again, my first defense is situational awareness. But if somebody takes that first swing, mine's going to break your nose and my second one's going in your throat. You're not getting up. We're done. Mighty Mike: So Dave, I want to know more about that really fast. Are you a ninja? Dave Luce: No. I've just had a lot of good training over the years. I spent most of the 80s running security for most of the NFL and all the Super Bowls, concert tours all over the country. I've been in riots from 50 people to 5,000 people. Mighty Mike: That's good stuff, Dave. What book would you recommend? Dave Luce: For the Process Servers, I would recommend whatever your code of civil procedure is. Know exactly what you can do and when you can do it, and how you can do it. Mighty Mike: That's good. Dave, what is the greatest advice you've ever received? Dave Luce: Greatest advice I ever got was from my grandfather, who's actually the man I considered to be my father, because he taught me what it was to be a man, and how to be a father. And he always said, "Having integrity is doing the right thing even when nobody's looking." And we as Process Servers, we have to have integrity. Number one, our clients have to know that, when we do something and we say that we did something, they have absolute confidence that it happened exactly the way we said it did. Mighty Mike: That's a good one. One of my favorite quotes is, "Your actions are speaking so loud, I can't hear what you're saying." Dave, what would you do if you woke up today, you had all the same skills and knowledge, had no clients, a smartphone, a car, and only $100, what would you do in the next week? Dave Luce: Definitely it would be to get a website, to get a website and then take whatever I've got left from that and get some nice flyers printed up. And the way that I got a lot of clients when I first started back in '96 is, I would stand out in front of courthouses, dress nice, and give them my card and a flyer, and let them know what I do. And I've picked up a lot of clients like that, especially a lot of those coming out from doing the self-filings for small claims. Mighty Mike: That's good. I've always said that when I retire, I'm going to go stand in front of the courthouse and I'm going to have a new company. It's going to be called The Bad News Bear. And I'm just going to have a big bear suit on and going to stand in front of the courthouse and hand out cards. It'll be a little plastic bear that'll be like, "I serve people." And then a, because you're retired. You could do whatever you want to do when you're retired. Dave Luce: Technically, I am retired. This is my retirement job, was to go back into this. I finally got my pension and benefits for life from the Sheriff's Department, because it was injured in the line of duty. And I really enjoy process serving. I've always liked helping people, and I've always viewed what we do as process servers as, we're helping start the wheels of justice for the person that got screwed over to begin with. Because they can't get any justice until somebody serves somebody else. Mighty Mike: That's good. Yeah, that's good. Some of my attorney clients' friends will say, well, as soon as we get in the courtroom, the first thing they say is, "Do you have a proof of service?" And if you don't have a proof of service, you got to have a reason or a declaration or something to continue the hearing. And sometimes, it just means you lose your case. So that's good. Yeah, we get the wheels of justice moving. We got quite a few good quotes going here. So Dave, so we talked about the website. We talked about standing out in front of the courthouse. Would you agree that networking is one of the most important things? Dave Luce: It definitely is important. Join your local Chamber of Commerce, join some of the national associations, if you can afford it. But definitely get your name out there, and make sure that the name you're getting out there is a good one. Because that's how I get most of my referrals. I mean, I had one of my clients actually referred me to the Michigan Office to the Attorney General, that I now serve stuff that they send out here to LA. Mighty Mike: Wow. Dave Luce: I mean, I thought it was a joke when I got the email, and I replied back and was like, "No." It actually is the Michigan Office to the Attorney General. Mighty Mike: Well, I got to tell you, I was going to say, because networking, to me, seems like one of your big strengths. Anybody that I'd talk to that I asked serving in that area, they go, "Go to Dave, go to Dave Luce." So that's a- Dave Luce: Yeah. And my clients, especially the ones that are new, one thing they really appreciate is that, they don't have to think about it. Once they give it to me, it doesn't go into that black hole and they don't know the progress with it or the attempts or anything like that. I mean, I have clients that will, like I said, [inaudible 00:25:50], they'll pay me a lot of money to go as far south as San Diego and as far north as Santa Barbara. Mighty Mike: Wow. Dave Luce: They know they can find somebody else cheaper, but they know they're not going to find anybody better. Mighty Mike: Right. Dave Luce: So they'll send me and pay me several hundred dollars. Mighty Mike: Well, Dave, you are the man. And what I take most from that story is, to watch your name and your credibility. What are some of the main things that Process Servers do to ruin their credibility? Dave Luce: I would say, promising the moon and not delivering it. Saying, "Oh, well I'll get this done within x amount of time," and then not doing it. Mighty Mike: That's good. Dave Luce: The way I base my regular service is, three attempts done within a week of me getting the papers. And so, sometimes it's a lot faster. But I'm not going to say, "Oh, well, I'll get to it tomorrow," because I may have a rush that's going 30 miles the other way, and I can't get to it. So I just give them a range of dates. They're also happy that I get it done so quickly. Mighty Mike: So Dave, what is the best way that we can connect with you, and then we'll say goodbye? Dave Luce: Well, my website is www.LoveToServeThem, all one word, .com. You can find me on Facebook at LoveToServeThemLLC. You can also find on Yelp at Love To Serve Them. I try to, I'm on LinkedIn under the same. I try to keep it fairly simple, because again, I'm a one-man operation. Mighty Mike: Yeah. Dave Luce: And I would much prefer that I get. Like with Yelp, I almost never get a client off Yelp. The ones that call me off Yelp, they're looking for an attorney or they want something for nothing, or I'll tell them my price and it's like, "Well, do you guarantee service?" "No." "Well, I've talked to others that guarantee a service for less." And I'm like, "Run, run. Do not use that." Because of course they're going to say they served it when they didn't, because they want to get paid. Mighty Mike: Yeah, that's one element that people don't really recognize sometimes is like, this isn't a McDonald's drive-thru. Right? You're not just like, transactionally paying them and then they're doing something that's. If it's important to you, then pay the money. Right? Like, I've noticed that most of the time, attorneys and paralegals, they don't even blink an eye at my $79, $99 rates. They don't even blink an eye. They'd just say, "Okay," because they'd pass it on their clients and they know that you're a professional and you're going to take care of it so. I love that Dave. All of Dave's information is going to be available in the show notes on his page. You can go to ProcessServerDaily.com/dave and that'll take you to his show notes page. Dave, I want to personally thank you for being on the show. I have been impressed with your story and I'm excited to share it with the world. Dave Luce: I appreciate it, Michael. I see all your posts all the time, and you definitely keep me laughing, but you also have a lot of great information, especially for those new servers. Mighty Mike: That's good, it- Dave Luce: I would say that one thing for somebody that's new coming into this that doesn't know what process serving is all about is, you just have to remember that you're blindsiding people with legal notices. And yes, they're going to get upset, but don't take it personally. You have to have a thick skin to do this job. Mighty Mike: That's good. Thank you for that, and now, Dave, I appreciate it. So until next time, Server Nation, you've been served up some awesomeness by Dave Luce, the Process Server, and Mighty Mike, the Podcast Server. Mighty Mike: Don't forget to get your free 60-day trial from ServeManager at ProcessServerDaily.com/ServeManager. Server Nation, I want to personally thank you for listening to today's episode, and ask you a question: Do you or your staff need additional training? Can you handle more clients, but not sure where to get them? I've developed a solution, PSDUniversity.com offers a step-by-step online training by the top legal support professionals in the industry. Visit www.PSDUniversity.com
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Chris, tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got started in this industry? Well, it all started back in 2000 ... I want to say around 2007. I was working at Wal-Mart and I kind of befriended the department manager really quick. That's how I roll, make new friends with the bosses. He's a little ... He's just a couple years older than me and he's a nice guy. He just ... He asked me one day, after working for him for about six months to a year, he's like, "Hey, you want to make some extra money on the side?" I kind of knew what he did on the side and I said, "Oh, doing what?" He's like, "Serving papers," and I'm like, "Oh, man. Okay. I've seen the movie "Pineapple Express," it is kind of like that?" and he's like, "No, no, no. Well, sometimes."He's like, "Tell you what." He's like ... His mom kind of half-ran the office, It used to be her business 30 years ago. Her and this guy, Junior, was helping out this older lady that was doing it. She only had 10 customers, just barely making a few hundred bucks a month. Well, they took it over and she passed away, so they took it over and they ran it 10 times fold and grew the business exponentially. Her son, Derek, my boss, he was helping out, and so he was like, "Well, just swing by the office and the guy will take you out for a day. I'll text you and make sure your mind is all cleared and you're not a crazy person, which I know you're not," that's why he was telling me about it, kind of like who you know, not what you know. I said, "Okay." Took me out for a day and went up North to Oroville, to the border of USA and Canada, and we maybe hit three or four houses, all of which he went out of the car and I didn't get to see any of the dialogue so I'm getting super nervous and wondering how I'm actually going to serve papers if I don't know what the dialogue is like. He comes back and we just ... He asks me about my whole life story, the 12 hours that we drove, and i came back that night. The next day, I guess he told the owner, said, "Hey, yeah, he's a good guy. Hire him." The rest is history. The first few days, I went ... I started out as an independent contractor for a few months. I was only doing it part-time so it really wasn't worth my time, especially being new to the areas and not knowing where everything was at and new to the business. I ended up going on the books with the company for eight, nine years until last year. We took over the business again, my buddy and his mom, because she shared the business with another owner in Alaska, in the west-side, and he broke off. He's doing his own thing so they took it over last summer, so now I became an independent contractor again. It just ... It's more fortunate for me now, since I know everywhere, all the counties and all the clients and the clientele and the process and everything. That's pretty much how I started it. Well, that's awesome, Chris. You got a family? I do, yeah. I have a dad out here, I have a mom ... I'm from Connecticut, born and raised. I moved out here in '05. After 9/11, my dad moved out here and I have a bunch of step-family out here. One of my middle brothers is out here. My oldest brother is back east with my mom, so I got family up and down the east coast and New York and New England area, and then I have a bunch of step-family out here in Washington state, Idaho, and parts of Oregon. That's awesome. Super blessed. Just awesome people out here in the west coast. That's awesome, Chris. I've got to tell you that one of the main reasons I wanted you to come on the show is when I heard your story. We may get to that. If you want to share that same story, that's fine, but you got a lot going on. With these kind of stories, you got to be able to share it, man. You can't keep them to yourself! I know, I know. Really, really quick on that one story, if I do get into it, my boss was actually at a NAPPS meeting, N-A-P-P-S meeting, a couple states away. After it happened, I was so distraught and I called her up and she just starts busting out laughing. She's like, "Hold on, repeat what you just said to me. You're on speakerphone with about 10 other NAPPS members. Go ahead, Chris. What happened?" I told them and they were all just around a bonfire or something, just dying laughing. They're like, "How does this happen?" Then, from that point on, just the most bizarre, craziest stuff happens to me, and it's just laughable. Yeah. Well, we always like to get started ... We don't want to focus on the negative things in life, but there's a reason why you're on this show. You got a lot going on, you got a lot of great stories. First, we're going to start with your worst experience in the field. Can you tell us about that? Yeah. My worst experience by far would have to be ... I was going to a house and I'd been there a couple times before. It's a repeater house. Every time I go there, something bad happens. The first time, I got bit by a dog. Flesh wound, cut the skin. Second time I went there, I locked my keys in my car. The guy I served was the boyfriend of the lady I was serving and he was nice enough to accept the papers and help me get back in my car. I had to break into my car. Then, the third time, which was the worst serve ever, I was going ... It just rained out and it was like a single-wide trailer. I walked around the corner and I ended up slipping on the mud and pretty much thought I broke my leg. I did a full half split, right to the ground, screaming bloody murder. I thought I broke my leg. I'm rolling around in the mud, in the grass, yelling for help from anybody. No one's around, so I ended up crawling back to my Chevy Tracker that I had and hoisting myself up. Called my boss, got to my phone, called my boss. Screaming at her, telling her I broke my leg, I broke my leg, I need to go to the hospital, and she's like, "Oh, my God." She's like, "Okay, just call 911 and have the ambulance come there." I'm like, "No, I'm already in the car." All of a sudden, the people come up and they pull up, the owners of the property, and they're ... I'm screaming at them. Not at them directly, but just in pain. I was in so much pain. They said, "Did you want us to bring you to the hospital?" I was like, "No, I'm already in here," and they're like, "Oh, my God. I'm sorry." You could see the streak of where my leg came out under me on their property there and I just said, "Yeah, I got to go now. I got to go now." I just ... All I could think about was getting to the hospital. I was going, "Hey, by the way, is so-and-so here?" They're like, "Yeah." I said, "Here you go. You've been served." I got the papers served, that was all that matters, and I drove to the hospital, which was just five minutes away from there. I couldn't get out of the car. I saw a couple EMTs washing the EMT van, the hospital track, and I yelled at them. They came and got a wheelchair for me. I ended up pulling the worst hammy of all times, from my lower back down to behind my leg and my knee. Just completely black and blue. I couldn't walk for about three weeks, had to go on unemployment for a few weeks and physical therapy and ...Yeah, so I have yet to be back to that property. I'm prepared to wear all body armor and just go back there again. That was by far the worst, painful experience, serve I've ever had to deal with. Now, would you say that you fell because of the rain, the mud, or ... Oh, yeah, that was the rain and the mud. Right on. There was really nothing they could do about it. People say, "Oh, you go after the property owners." I'm like, "Nah, it was pure accident, myself." There's nothing they could have done about it. The way their low land is at, it's just mud and grass everywhere. That's a pretty terrible experience. What do you want Server Nation to get from your story? Oh, with that experience, just to really watch where you're going and tread lightly on all different kinds of terrain and property. That's not the only time I fell in the 10 years I've been doing this. I fell a lot, but that was definitely the worst. It can happen in our line of work. Just to really be careful. Safety is your number one concern, as always. Just to be careful and just watch where you're walking, watch where you're stepping. No, that's great. I got to tell you, people so often think, "Oh, have you ever had a gun in your face?" No, but I stepped wrong and went down a flight of stairs, and not just any, concrete stairs with the little rocks on them. I think that's worse. Right. Funny, I've actually had a few guns pulled on me over 10 years, all of which were really respectful once they found out who ... They knew who I was, they disengaged their weapon and put it in their holster or away from me, and they were super nice. I was way out in the country. I wouldn't expect anything less from the owners out there. Nothing still as far as scarier as that. I literally thought I broke my leg bad. Yeah, that's a terrible experience. Yeah, Server Nation, watch where you're going and be prepared. I got to tell you, wearing the right shoes, Sometimes, I wear dress shoes if I know I'm serving businesses. If I go up to the mountains, I don't just carry a .38, I carry a cannon Right. Right. It just depends on each ... Every situation is different. Right. Yeah. Being prepared for all those situations ... It's hard to prepare for something like mud. If you slip in the mud, I guess just having your cell phone on you always, because you could've ... True, yeah. You could've called from the mud if you had to. Right, yeah. crawling around and getting back into the vehicle, yeah. That's true. Yeah. Chris, that's a good story to start with. Tell us about your greatest experience working in the field. I serve papers as professionally as I can. I try and treat others the way I want to be treated, respect. This one is a little different than most, I would say. My grandmother passed away ... My last known grandparent ... My grandmother passed away last ... My last known grandparent passed away last September and I got the news at the start of my day. She lives back East in Connecticut with my other family over there and I was driving, I was heading to my first job, just a couple minutes away my stepdad calls me up. Everything was good with her health-wise, but she ended up passing away right then and there that morning. I was just really in shock and I get to my first serve and I try to compose myself and really didn't get emotional. I was still kind of in shock. I get to the door and this older lady who kind of reminded me of my grandmother answered the door and I just bawled right when she came to the porch on the steps. Oh wow. She had no idea why I was there and I just bawl for about five, ten minutes and she just hugged me and held me. Told her that I ... Finally, it took me about 10, 15 minutes to tell her who I am, why I'm there, and why I'm bawling like a baby. I served the papers. She was super nice, super friendly, one of the nicest people that I ever served. To show that kind of compassion, you know, being served papers from one human being to another, she just knew that I needed a hug and a shoulder to cry on. I tell people about her all the time. Well, I just went and served her again a few weeks ago and I pull up, and as soon as I get out of my car and turn around to face her house, she's already outside with her arms wide open to give me a hug. I just ... You know, of course, I was more composed this time and I just told her, I said, "I tell people about you all the time, this lady who I served who was there for me when I needed somebody, just a human interaction." That's definitely one of my best serves that I can ever think. After that, after I served her, and composed myself, I had one of the best serving days ever. It's almost like my grandma was like, "You know what? It's okay, Chris. I'm gone, but I'm going to make sure everybody's home today," and I knocked out over 35 jobs that day. Oh, wow. It was just like she was with me. I could have gone home and taken the day off. I said, "No, this job needs to get done. Clients need attempts and statuses and everything, so I'm going for it." It was like one of the best serving days I've ever had. That's the part of this job that we don't talk about a whole lot that ... I think in both of your experiences that you've shared today, what I've taken from it is that we're people too. The people who we're serving are people; like the guys that pulled up in the car, imagine if they were what everybody else portrays people that we're serving to be. They pull up in their car and they're like, "What the hell are you doing on my property?" Absolutely. "I'm injured." "I don't care. Get off my property." Exactly, yep. That's cool. "Get injured somewhere else." "Yeah, not on my property." "Are you so and so?" "No." You're like having to deal with all that. You know, I think you were fortunate, blessed, lucky, whatever you want to call it. I call it blessed. But, the elderly lady, I have a lot of respect for elderly people and the wisdom that they can share with us. Absolutely. That's good. What do you want Server Nation to take from your story? Again, back to the beginning of that story, I just try and serve everybody with respect. A lot of times when I serve people that have not been served in the past by other servers, and I'm not trying to put down other Process Server companies and any other independent contract servers, but a lot of them tell me that a lot of them just get the papers served and the server is super rude, sometimes nasty, and throw the papers in their face. I never do that. I'm always professional with every serve. I take it ... I don't know where everybody else serves if there's like no cell service or connection, but when I'm serving people up in the mountains and I'm super nice to them like I am with everybody, if your car breaks down and you were nice to that person, you can go back to that house and say, "Hey." It's happened to me before. They gave me shelter, and they gave me a phone, they gave me water, they let me use their restroom. They remembered me serving them as a professional and it goes a lot way by treating people with respect. Treating people ... You're serving, no matter what the paperwork with the utmost respect that you wanted to be treated with. That's awesome. I love that story and I love that perspective. I like to say, "Treat others the way that you want to be treated." They're a human. When you're out there serving papers, of course, be prepared, be respectful, number one things. Chris, what are you working on right now that has you most fired up? Getting to jobs that are way up in the mountains that there's just no way, again, to the jobs, and keeping the clients happy, keeping the clients as customers, and trying my hardest to get to properties that I can get to with all the snow up here in the Pacific Northwest and the terrain of the mountains the way they are. Every winter I look forward to this. It's really tough to try and get to these. I've had jobs, I'm not going to lie, that I've had since the middle of November and beginning of December that I just cannot get to. With the three, four feet of snow, I don't own a snowmobile so I can't park up and get a truck, and get up and get my snowmobile onto the terrain and get up there. Now with the snowmelt, it's ... Spring's right around the corner, everything's melting, so now clients are getting happy where I can finally get to these jobs that I haven't been able to get to just because of the terrain that we have jobs for. Right. Well, that's awesome. I've got to tell you, there's a guy up in Alaska who, on most of his jobs, he was telling me that he goes up to the mountain on- Helicopter? Snowmobile. Oh. Helicopter. No, he did say that. He said that on some of them he does have to go wait until the ice is actually frozen so that he can go on a snowmobile over the ice. Wow. Yeah, and then also he'll ride quads and things like that. Most of the serves that he does is on quad or snowmobile. I'm just like, wow. What I wanted to ask you is, how bad do these clients want these people served? Because one time I had a situation where I had to serve a pot grower and they wanted me to get pictures and I said, "Well, there's gates and I might be able to serve them, but as far as the pictures go, you know, you're probably not going to get very good pictures because they have these big, old fences with tarps up and stuff," and they wanted to get pictures of the pot. I was like, "You know, I could get a drone and fly it over and take pictures." They said, "Okay, yeah, do that." I said, "Well, I'm going to have to charge the expense for the drone to you." I was able to do that $750 drone. Wow, I'm actually really impressed. Yeah, so maybe you want to call your client and go, "Look, between you and this guy, we could get ourselves a snowmobile up here and then we'll be in operation." No, that's correct. For the most part, all clients ... We've had the same clients for years, and years, and years, they know us, they trust us, and as long as they know that I am trying at least every few days or once a week to go to these impossible areas ... I mean, every time I get a little bit closer, a little bit closer, I'll take a picture of the road, the street sign, "Okay, I'm getting this close or this close." They see that we're working and they're really good with that. Clients are really relaxed with that and they're like, "Okay, this company, they're trying. Chris is trying." They just sit on the paperwork and know that I'll get it done when I can get up there. Server Nation, Chris has been dropping some major value bombs on us today, but prepare yourself because we're headed into the rapid fire round right after a word from our sponsors. SPONSOR: Servemanager Server Nation, imagine what you could do with another 25 minutes per job? This is how much time processors at ServeManager are saving. 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Sasquatch of the Northwest is ready. Yes. That's what I'm talking about. That's awesome. What is your favorite tool for defense? My mind and my mouth. I've gotten into many, many altercations that could have ended up being physical. If I was talked my way out of them because of a couple things of advice I was always taught by the veteran server who trained me for that day was that, one, no paper is worth getting punched, stabbed, shot, or killed over, and no paper is worth spending a night in jail with Bubba. That's for you and the person you're serving. I mean, if they start to get angry say, "Hey, you know what? I'm a legal courier. I'm just trying to do my job." When I worked for the old owner, for the good eight years right there, we weren't even allowed to have a weapon on us. We weren't even allowed to have bug spray. We weren't allowed to have any weapons. Now that I'm an IC, I've always had my concealed weapons permit, but I never really brought it with me because I learned to not have to use weapons. I just use my mind, and my quick talking, and talk my way out of every possible physical confrontation. I've never been swung at. I've been, of course, yelled at and pretty close to being spit at, and people in my face to get me off the property. I just put my hands up and say, "Okay, sorry to bother you. Just trying to do my job." Yeah. I've got to tell you, situational awareness and being able to look at a situation and come at it from a perspective of, "I'm just trying to do a job." Just yesterday I was down in Yuba City and I had a situation where I pulled up to a property and everyone's outside, everyone and their mother's outside. I think they were even cooking on an actual stove in the front yard. There's a car parked sideways and another one, a car parked out of the window. It's just insane. It was an insane ... You're walking up there thinking, "I shouldn't be walking up here." Because I'm a little bit stubborn and I have like 40 serves to do, I don't want to come back. Right. In this situation, I just walk up. Before I could even get out of my car though, one guy's like peeking over my shoulder in the car to see what I'm doing- One guy is like peeking over my shoulder in the car to see what I'm doing. Am I getting out? Am I an officer? I don't do anything to make people think that I am a cop for multiple reasons, but this situation I got out, and I just said, "Hey, guys. How's it going guys?" And you just be like that nice guy that's like, "Hey, what's going on? Do you know the people that live in that house?" This guy yesterday was like, "No, nobody by that name lives in there. Some lady named Tina lives in there," and I said, "Oh, okay and what's your name?" And he just walked away. He walks inside the house that I was talking about, but then there's this young kid like 16 something, somewhere around there, and he's like, "No, that girl moved out. She's my age. She moved out a long time ago," and he seemed a little bit more ... It's crazy situation awareness being able to see a situation where there's like five guys, and you see they're carrying guns, don't stop, just keep going, like it's not worth your life. Chris, what is the greatest advice you have ever received? On top of no paper is worth getting killed over or spending a night in jail with over, but the greatest advice, everybody talked about it before is just to treat people the way you want to be treated, and it goes so far with everything, you know, not just this job, but in your in period, in general, but that is definitely. You want to definitely be sociable, be friendly, be professional, and that will just go a long way. This next question, it trips up a lot of people when they come on here. They're not sure how to go about it, but I know that with your awesome skills, the man, the myth, the legend, the Sasquatch of the North. That's right. What would you do if you woke up today, had all the same skills and knowledge, had no clients, a smartphone, a car, and only $100, what would you do in the next week? In the next week, with just that I would immediately start making friends with all the local attorney offices, all the local courthouses, the clerks are your best friends at all the courts, the district courts, superior court, clerks offices. I can't tell you how much I love all of them over here in the six counties that I cover. They are a huge resource for you. So, definitely befriend them. Most of them are good people. A lot of them can get a little frustrated with the people they deal with, and even the service they deal with, but definitely with making revenue, generate a lot of business for you. They turn a lot of people your way, because they get a bunch of walk-ins every day, all different counties. Different, you know, I said district or superior court. So, that would be like your first step is just to befriend the clerks offices, and then make your way into the attorney's offices, and just be very professional, very sociable, and have just a good persona of what you're doing and what you plan to do with your business, and you'll see it grow, just exponentially. That's awesome, Chris. That's great advice. I have a question. So, when you talk about going to clerks and things like that, what is the best way? Because in many counties they don't allow you to, they're not allowed to promote any individual, independent contractors, or any companies, they usually just send people to the sheriff. Do you find it's different in your county or is there something you're doing that I'm not doing? You know, some of the courts, they actually have business card slots there. Oh, wow. You put your business cards next to the window of the clerk's office windows. Their rules is they can't give any legal advice to people, that's their biggest rule, but as far as referring to people to process servers, I haven't had a problem in any of the counties here in Washington state. They say, "Hey, check out the servers here." There's a list of business cards here, and if you develop more of a better relationship with them, a more personal relationship with them by seeing them every week, day in and day out, they kind of know you personally, and they'll say, "Hey, this guy, he's a good guy, a good server. Go send the business that way." Yeah, and I've said this a 1,000 times. I'll say it again. The court clerks have all the power. They do. If you go there, if you make an enemy out of a court clerk ... Oh, yeah. No. We've had our run ins with some of the clerk's offices and even our clerk's offices, there might be one or two, they're having a bad day and you step on the wrong toe, and man it's no help at all. Yeah, you'll show up to their window, and they'll take a lunch. Yeah, oh yeah. Most of them do here, like from 12:00 to 1:00, you can't get help, but even if I'm running a little bit late, I can just call a direct number here and there, and I'll talk to my favorite person, and they'll wait for me and file my paperwork before they go to lunch. That's awesome. It helps if you're just really friendly with the clerk's offices. That's a really good tip. So, what I take most from your story, like we talked about before, you treat others the way you want to be treated, get out there and make friends with people. You just find situations to be able to grow your network. They say your network is your network. You know, if you don't know anybody, nobody knows you, you're probably working a minimum wage job. It's just usually how it works. Yep. So, that's what I get most from your story. Chris, we're going to go ahead and wrap it up. What is your parting piece of advice for Server Nation? Is just to network, treat people with respect, treat your affiliates with respect, your neighboring partners in businesses. We do so much work for neighboring county affiliates of ours, and they really, without them, you know, we wouldn't see quite a bit of business that we do see, and I'm so grateful to just have that kind of connection and networking capabilities with the neighboring affiliates and other serving companies in this state and surrounding counties, and just to draw out there everyday and there's no sick days in this job. Isn't that the truth? You're in your car for most the day, so it's fine, and just go out there and be safe, and just every day is a new day. Every paper is a new paper. Every person is a new person, and that's one of the reasons that I love this job is because you meet all different kinds of characters. Mostly good. Some bad. Some interesting, but enjoy what you do. Chris, what is the best that we can connect with you, and then we'll say good-bye. The best way to connect with me is my email, which is chrissvelyns@gmail.com, and my phone number is 509-770-3336 and call me day or night, I will always be around. If anybody has any questions or needs advice, I'm here, and I'm located here Mosaic, Washington, and another email would be A2Zlegalcouriers@gmail.com That's awesome. Is that your web domain as well? Legal Couriers? Yeah, A to Z Legal Couriers, yeah, that's where I'm contracted for. Chris, I want to personally thank you for coming on the show. I have been so impressed with your story, and I'm excited to share it with the world. Thank you for the opportunity. Until next time, Server Nation. 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Mighty Mike: What's up, Server Nation? This is Mighty Mike, the Podcast Server, and you are listening to www.ProcessServerDaily.com Mighty Mike: You guys, I'm super excited about today's episode. If you have a story that you want to tell, that you're excited about. Maybe a dog chased you, maybe a guy tried to shoot you with his gun, maybe you had a heart-warming story where you helped somebody in need. Guys, I want to hear the story on this show. Go to www.ProcessServerDaily.Com/BeAGuest.html Find some studio time, go to www.ProcessServerDaily.Com/BeAGuest.html Mighty Mike: I look forward to speaking to you and hearing your story! Let's get to the show. Mighty Mike: What's up, Server Nation? You are listening to Process Server Daily, and I am your host, Mighty Mike the Podcast Server. Our guest today has recently appeared on Vice TV where he has been on the hunt for the most notorious Neo-Nazi of our time. He has been in business for 25 years and he owns and operates Encore Delivery Systems located in Columbus, Ohio. Mighty Mike: Jeff Cremeans, welcome to the show. Jeff C.: Pleasure to be here, Mike. Mighty Mike: Awesome, Jeff. I want to hear from you, Jeff! Tell us a little bit about yourself that wasn't in the intro. Take it away. Jeff C.: Sure. My name is Jeff Cremeans. I've been a process server for about 25 years. I started off, giving my age here, back in 1989 working for a law firm in Columbus, Ohio. Started off as a messenger working in the mail room. Did filings at the court house. Started to do the subpoenas, that type of thing. I'll make a long story short. I had an attorney, of the many duties I did in the mail room, wanted me to go get him a hotdog. So I went and got him a hotdog, I brought it back and he yelled at me, he said, "Why wasn't there mustard on it?" I thought, "You know, I'm gonna start my own business and I'm gonna charge this guy 25 bucks to go get his hotdog." Jeff C.: So I started a company out of law firm called City Wide Legal Messenger Service. Took off really well in Columbus, Ohio. There's a need for that type of thing here. I owned that for a few years. I sold that company to another company. I worked there for 11 years and then I've owned Encore since then. So I've had Encore for about 14 years. So ... Mighty Mike: That's awesome. Yeah, when I was watching the show, it's really cool, your office looks really cool. It looks like you got a pretty good size operation going on there. Jeff C.: Yeah, doing good. In any given time, we'll have eight or nine servers out, serving anything from child support papers to foreclosures. I don't get out as much and serve, certainly on this big case I'm helping out on, the Andrew Anglin case. But, yeah, I have a great group of servers. Very hard workers and do a great job. So ... Mighty Mike: Jeff, one of the most important things as process servers, for anybody, actually, is family. You got a family? Jeff C.: Sure do. I have a daughter at Ken State. Freshman at Ken State University. I've a son that's a sophomore. Yeah, they're pretty much my world, so ... Yeah. Mighty Mike: That's awesome. Jeff, there's a reason why you're on my show. You have a lot going on right now. Full of great experiences. But first, tell me about your worst experience working in the field. Jeff C.: You know, I think a lot of the process servers cross and that start talking about bad stories. Everybody's got a lot of bad stories. I think the one that really stood out to me was one, believe it or not, where I wasn't out in the field. Long story short, I'm sitting in my office, I had let everybody go early. I'm in the office by myself, just doing paperwork and in walks four people. I won't put their description out, but they were not very nice-looking people. I said, "Can I help you?" They said, "Yeah. One of your servers have been pounding on the door at my grandmother's house. We're here to see what's going on." Course, they were not so nice about it. I thought, "Well," I looked up and I saw these four guys. They meant business and they were there to do some damage or something. I thought, "Well, gosh, here we go." I can hold my own, but not with four guys. They were really upset that the server ... Now, how they go to where we were, they did some diligence on finding who we were and our address and everything. I got to give 'em that. Jeff C.: Anyway, I'll be honest with you, I was scared for my life. I thought if these guys want to start one me, there's not a whole lot I can do, but I explained to them. I calmed 'em down, I said, "Look, I'm sorry. This is not the way we do business and I apologize that your grandmother was scared," and all this stuff. Turns out that the server that went out, he was a newbie. He was trained and everything, but he had it to where he thought he could pound on doors and maybe even intimidate people, scare people to come to the door. Boy, did I have a long talk with after him that. I told him, "Hey, look, you're gonna go out, you're gonna go looking for trouble. You're gonna get it." Jeff C.: Fortunately, the trouble came to the office and it affected me. Nothing ended up happening. I talked to these guys and they end up not hurting me, which is a good thing. So the moral of the story, and for everybody out there, whether you're training a server or you're serving yourself, you don't have to ... there's times you have to get creative and aggressive. We can talk about that later in the podcast, but the big thing is, I explained to the server, "There was an old lady in there. You were scaring her to death. She had her grandkids come here and threaten me and want to know what's going on. Take it easy, man. You don't have to do that. If they don't answer the door, you don't have to pound on it." The lady wasn't even avoiding servers, so he learned a big lesson. He learned from that and turned out to be a great server. Not so aggressive anymore after that. Mighty Mike: I've recounted an experience that I've had too in a previous podcast about knocking on a door and being really gung-ho, and then realizing it was a 14 year old girl in there, terrified! She's told not to answer the door and it really helped correct my perspective that you never know ... I just had one yesterday. They told me she's an elderly lady and I've been there at all different times during the day. So I decided to come at night. Sure enough, her car was there, but she wasn't answering the door. The neighbors said, "Oh, she's in there." But I thought, "Man, I'm just gonna come back again at night and maybe she won't be in the shower or in the back room or wherever. Whatever she's doing to keep her from answering the door, giving her the benefit of the doubt- Jeff C.: Right. Mighty Mike: That she might actually answer the door if I come in a different time. Jeff C.: Yeah. Mighty Mike: Yeah, what I take from your story is prudence. Have a little bit of prudence when you come to the door. It's one of the most valuable asset in any industry. Mighty Mike: Jeff, tell us about your greatest experience working in the field. Jeff C.: Well, as many as there are bad, there are some good experiences out there. I think one that stands out to me is, and this is back in my City Wide Legal Messenger Service days, I was young and I was just new to the industry and learning, and doing stuff. I got a job to serve a wealthy person in a domestic case. Long story short, I had attempted many times. Pulled out all the tricks. I dressed up for Halloween, did the whole pizza delivery thing. Nothing worked. This guy, he was a dodger and he knew the game. He had been served before. Jeff C.: I pulled up one day, I just happened to be around the neighborhood. I thought, "Let me go try this guy again." I got there and he was out back, washing one of his expensive cars with his brother. I pulled up and he looked at me and started to run. Then he stopped and he's like, "You got me." He put out his hand and he shook my hand. He's like, "Congratulations, man. You played a good game." He was serious, very nice. We ended up talking there for a minute, so it was kind of ... never had that happen before, but it was nice to know that old game of hide and seek, he was not a sore loser, you know? So, yeah, that's kind of a good story. Mighty Mike: That's cool when they're like that. Some people just have a habit of dodging and ducking and hiding under couches, and things like that. Every once in a while, you'll get that guy that's probably like you would be when you're retired or something like that, or if someone else was trying to serve you. Ultimately, you're gonna accept the responsibility for your own problems, but you don't mind giving 'em a little run for his money. Jeff C.: Sure. Mighty Mike: That's a great experience. Mighty Mike: Jeff, tell me what you're working on right now that you're most excited about. Jeff C.: Well, in the past few years, we've gotten accounts with the Children's Services and the child support. It's a lot of work. It's lucrative, but dodging has increased with the child support papers as everybody knows, especially at that end of the stuff that we serve. So I've been able to hire more servers, it's broadened our horizons as far as learning more about the industry and finding people, the skip tracing, that type of thing. Jeff C.: Then, of course, there's the case we're trying to serve, the famous neo-Nazi. That has been the most challenging serve in my career in 25 plus years. So the reason why this case is so challenging to serve, this guy, he's a national, if not worldly-known neo-Nazi. He's got his own website, the Daily Stormer, that's been very controversial, but he has so much help hiding out. I've never seen anybody have so much support in hiding out. Anything from his father with all his property he owns, and people putting him up in places, this type of thing. But, yeah, it's been a very challenging serve. Worked very hard and done all the skip tracing. Done everything we possibly can to this point. Right now, we're relying on tips from a lot of different people that have maybe spotted him or know where he's at. We had a pretty good tip, as you saw in the Vice show. That's probably our best tip and missed him there. But, so, yeah. Jeff C.: There's a lot of things going on, a lot of good things. Growing at a steady pace and, again, I think any processor out there will tell you each case is different, each server's different. You don't want to get too emotionally involved, especially when someone's dodging, but there comes a time where, "Ask us for help," you know. One person can't do everything. If you feel like you've exhausted all your efforts in getting the serve, get somebody else on it. Get a fresh face, that type of thing. So ... Mighty Mike: Yeah, that's good, Jeff. I'll tell you, when I was watching the video, and you were going over the footage in the store where you were watching him with his protein powder, I got this feeling, almost like that's happened to me before where I've seen someone I was hunting for three months. He was a pot farmer up in [inaudible 00:09:36] Creek. Anyone knows you go up there, you gotta go up there with the AKs and [inaudible 00:09:40] dogs, and ready to go. Mighty Mike: I saw him in a park. He was apparently getting visitation with his kids, and I didn't have the papers, so I ran back, I drove back to my house. By the time I got there, he wasn't there. I was so mad at myself. How did you feel when that- Jeff C.: First, it was just shock and awe seeing him there. My son and I were just walking through the store and it was one of those things, when I first saw him, I thought, "Oh, man. That guy looks familiar," and I got closer. As I got closer, I thought, "Oh my gosh, that's him." No doubt in my mind whatsoever. In fact, I submitted a declaration to the court for the attorney's request to explain that I saw him. I got up, I was watching him. I was standing there as you could see in the video, watching him. Very nervous. He was kind of looking behind his shoulders and just kind of looked really, really paranoid, that type of thing. I thought, "You know, I don't have the papers. They're not even in my car. They're at home. By the time I get it and do that, it's not gonna happen." Plus, I had my son with me. It was really not a whole lot I could have done, like I couldn't leave him there. Jeff C.: As he was checking out, I proceeded to go through the store, past self check out lines. I looked over and I just thought, "You know, I gotta say something to him. I gotta go talk to him. I just can't" ... So as he was walking out, I pulled up right in front of him with my car. My exact words to him was like, "You know, you look like somebody I know. Is your name Andrew?" "Nope." He was gone. He was not gonna hang around. It was him, it was definitely him. Now- Jeff: He was not going to hang around, and it was him. It was definitely him. Now, people, especially his attorney ... What are the odds? What are the odds of tracking somebody down for almost a year and you see them at a grocery store? I don't know, but it happened and it was ... Needless to say, I have the papers with me every time. I have them in my briefcase, I have them in my car, I have them at work. I have other people that have them. All my servers have a copy of this stuff [inaudible 00:11:24] just in case something like that were to happen again. Don't think I'll ever get that opportunity again, but you never know. Mighty Mike: Yeah, I actually keep a bucket now, because of that experience that I had. I'll tell you one fun experience. I was in the courthouse and I'd been hunting this ... trying to serve this professor of Chico State University. He was retired. And so, I had served him like three times before and then he moved. We go to court every day to file papers at the courthouse. And so, I was in line at the courthouse and I heard this voice, and I was like, "I know that voice." And I listened and I heard it. He's just shooting it with a couple guys, "Yeah, no, I'm a professor down over at Chico State." And I thought, "That's him." And I didn't have the documents, but I was at the courthouse. So I said ... I looked it up on my phone, and I bought a copy of the paperwork at the courthouse. I checked the box individual and said, "Here you go." Jeff: Oh, nice. Very nice. Mighty Mike: I felt like such a ninja when I did that. It was cool. Jeff: Yeah. Mighty Mike: So I mean, if I would have saw him at the store I would have been in trouble. What I wanted to know, and I'm sure other servers are the same, is what's the next step? You can only skip trace them so much, right? Jeff: Yeah. Mighty Mike: You can only- Jeff: Yeah, there's a lot of people looking for this guy for one reason or another. It's not just to serve him papers. As you can imagine, he's made a lot of people upset with his comments and his viewpoints. Hey, you know, I believe in the first amendment. I think everybody can believe in whatever they want to believe in. You believe clowns should make more money when they go to parties? Fine. Just the fact that threaten violence and harass people I don't think bodes well. Jeff: So anyway, with that being said, a lot of people look for him. We're all trying to put feelers out there and we're all going off tips, whether it be the media, reporters, and other process servers. And from here, where do we go? Waiting on a tip. There's been rumor that he claims he's in Cambodia, then he was in Nigeria, then he was in Russia. Personally, my opinion, I think he's right here, whether it be in town or the state of Ohio, at least in the United States. He's not overseas. So it's going to be off a tip. It's going to get lucky. Somebody's going to see him, he's going to show his self somewhere. That's pretty much all we can do right now, just sit back and wait. Mighty Mike: Yeah, you just have got to post somebody up over by the protein powder. That's what you have got to do. Jeff: Yeah. Yeah. Mighty Mike: Okay. So I hope you get him and when you do get him, maybe we'll have you back on the show or even we'll do a Facebook Live so that'll just be [inaudible 00:13:49]. Jeff: I look forward to the day, believe me. Mighty Mike: Now dreams of the day. Jeff: Yeah. Mighty Mike: Server Nation, Jeff has been dropping some major value bombs on us today, but prepare yourself, because we are headed into the rapid fire round right after a word from our sponsors. Mighty Mike: Server Nation, I know you're with the times and you want to do whatever you can to have all of the resources for your client. That is why I created 123efile.com. As a process server, attorney, or even an improper you can visit the website and file your documents in any of the Tyler courts in California. With it's easy to use one-page operation, you can have your e-filing done in a matter of minutes and get back to what really matters. If your time is important to you, visit 123efile.com. Mighty Mike: Welcome back to the show. Jeff, are you ready for the rapid fire round? Jeff: I think I am. Mighty Mike: If you could recommend one app, what would it be and why? Jeff: I think Road Warrior's a good app. I'm not a humongous app fan. I kind of do a lot of things old school. I think if you're diligent enough and you really want it bad, you can find the right app and it'll get you where you need to be. Mighty Mike: Very good. Road Warrior is ... I swear by the Road Warrior. Jeff: Yeah. Mighty Mike: I mean, if another one came out I would try it, but I haven't found any other app like that. Jeff: Yeah, it's a good app. Mighty Mike: And if you have it set to go straight into the Waze app, it works really good in the city. You can pick different navigators, but yeah, Road Warrior's a great one. What case tracking software would you recommend as the best? I would take you as a Process Server Toolbox guy. Jeff: Yeah, yeah, Process Server's Toolbox or like Serve Manager. Again, I don't even ... To be honest with you, I don't use them. Again, I'm- Mighty Mike: Really? Jeff: Yeah, I'm a firm believer in the old fashioned way of doing things, and my customers seem to like it. I've tried to offer them the different softwares and the Process Server's Tool and everything, and my customers like, you know, "Just use the court's return. We don't want this. We don't want that." And I've just kind of been doing that for years, and it works for me so far. Mighty Mike: No, I'm intrigued, Jeff, because, let me tell you something, there's a beauty in simplicity. So I'm just curious, we don't have to go too far into it, but you have like a service request form? Jeff: Yes. Mighty Mike: And they fill that out. And is your return or your field sheet, if you were, is that a part of the same form? Jeff: No, that's a different form in fact. And that's the thing, we kind of create our own affidavits and our own returns of service if they want. For anybody that has just your federal district return of service, we'll start off with that. If somebody wants something different, we've created so many different types of affidavits and non-serve affidavits and returns of service. We've had people say, "Yep, we don't want this notarized. You don't have to notarize it," so we'll just make it a simple proof of service. Mighty Mike: Yeah. Jeff: Of course, as you know, in California they have their own and New York wants certain things. A lot of the different states and people want different things. Mighty Mike: Definitely. Jeff: So we kind of have a variety of affidavits and stuff we use. Mighty Mike: That's cool. Yeah, that's cheaper. Jeff: Yeah, it is. It is. Mighty Mike: I tell you, there's beauty in simplicity. When I first started out, I had a form and I thought I was a genius because I had my service request area on top where I gave the customer's info and special instructions, and then at the bottom it had four spots for first attempt, second attempt, third attempt. And I only did four attempts because most of my customers were for unlawful detainers. In our local area, you had to get three attempts for diligence before you could post or subserve. So yeah, there's beauty in simplicity. I appreciate that. Mighty Mike: What is your favorite skip trace tactic? Jeff: I think what's worked for us over the years are the neighbors. Knocking on the doors next to it. I tell you, there's ... We have had more nosy neighbors help us get people served than anything. It's a simple skip tracing tool. There's a lot of ways of skip tracing, but, boy, just I don't know how many times ... And I'm sure a lot of servers have experienced this. The neighbor's out washing the car, you go over, "Hey, is so-and-so here?" "Oh, you know what? No, they're down the street at this park at the baseball game." "Oh, really? Which park is that?" "You know, blah, blah, blah park." You go down there. Now, if somebody's been dodging for a few weeks and you really want to get them served, I don't mind going to a park at a ballgame and getting them served. It may be the only opportunity to get them. So yeah, I think neighbors are very informative, and can be very helpful for getting somebody. Mighty Mike: Yeah, and actually, you can skip trace a specific address, not a person, and it'll give you the people that live in that general area. Or you can go on Google and find out what the nextdoor neighbor's address is and skip trace them and get the phone number. And then call them up, say, "Hi, is this ..." So if you're looking for Jill, you call up the neighbor and say, "Hi, is this Jill?" And then she's going to go, "Oh no, Jill lives nextdoor." "Okay. Oh, sorry about that." You know? Jeff: Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mighty Mike: That's a good one that works a lot. Jeff: Yeah. Mighty Mike: Jeff, what is your favorite tool for defense? Jeff: I think there's weapons and there's this and there's that. I firmly believe in being human with people, talking to them. One thing that taught me about that bad experience, I think if you're there and you're calm and you hear them, and you're honest with them, say, "Hey, look, I got these papers," well I think that's worked more than anything. To be, for lack of a better word, aggressive or cocky or pushy and doing too much, I don't think that's going to help you out. I think really trying to talk to people. And there's a lot of different ways of doing that. Jeff: My biggest thing is somebody that's wanting to avoid service, I try to tell them, "Hey, look, I'm going to come back. I'm going to keep coming back. I'm not going to go away and this is not going to go away." I'm not a lawyer, I can't give them legal advice, but I try to tell them, "Hey, look, you're best off taking this now." So things like that and that nature, that to be me has been the best tool. Call it a tool. Call it whatever you want. I think it's a really good tool to use. Mighty Mike: Yeah, I did a poll on Facebook and, "What was the best tool for defense?" And people came back ... And actually, I gave some options and I gave like a gun, and a knife, and all these things. And then, I gave a few options. It was like common sense ... Jeff: Yes. Mighty Mike: Those things that are inside of you, like in your brain and in your habits, and the way that you treat people, the way that you talk to people, those are the things that had the most hits. I think one of them had like 64. Common sense had like 64, and the next one had 30. And the actual gun I think only had like 16. We all like to talk about the guns that we own, but the truth is, when you're out there serving, using your gift of gab or your ability to control a situation with your words is way more powerful than a gun. Jeff: Absolutely Mighty Mike: A gun is an immediate ... It's not an answer. It's not a resolution. It's a tragedy if you did have to pull it out. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-gun. I'm just saying I agree with you. That's absolutely correct. Jeff: And yeah, guns can be dangerous and they can promote ... get you into a situation where somebody could get hurt or killed. Again, I'm totally not anti-gun either. I totally believe in that, and a lot of people should have one for their protection. I've never been a really big badge guy. Again, I'm just kind of human, old fashioned way of doing things. Mighty Mike: Yeah, in California it's actually become quite a ... most of the server companies, it's quite anti-badge, because a lot of people are getting convicted and charged, and potentially convicted for impersonating an officer. Jeff: Yes. Mighty Mike: Throwing around words like, "Officer of the court," and things like that. Jeff: Mm-hmm Mighty Mike: You know, I used to do it when I first started because that's what they said in my training class, and really we're not. Joe down the street could serve papers, but he can't serve more than 10 in California. I know it's different in every state, but ... Jeff: Mm-hmm Mighty Mike: Jeff, what book would you recommend? Jeff: Anything John Grisham. I'm a huge John Grisham fan. In fact, the older I get, I'm doing a lot more reading. And I love to read, it's just like a lot of people, you just don't have the time. But John Grisham, really just the fact ... You know, he's mentioned process servers in his stories and subpoenas being served. I always kind of liked that part of it, but just his work is just I think is amazing. And the legal aspect of it, I'm really interested in that part of it. http://www.jgrisham.com/books/ Mighty Mike: That's really cool. I'm going to have to check it out, John Grisham. I'm actually writing a book. It's going to be done here in about 90 days is my goal. And it's going to be on process server safety and best business practices. It's going to be great! Jeff: That's awesome! Mighty Mike: Yeah, you can get a free copy at www.processserverdaily.com/freebook.html when it comes out. Mighty Mike: Jeff, did you have a mentor? Jeff: I started off at a young age. I’m the second youngest of 10 children. Growing up, it was one of those things where, as you can imagine, you either go off to college or go get a job. You're not going to hang around the house, that type of thing. My mentor was no doubt about it my father. He was a hard-working man, raising 10 kids, him and my mother. To me, they’re the most awesome people in the planet, but nevertheless, he said, “Work hard and be nice and don’t ever give up.” He was always supportive of all my brothers and sisters, whatever road they took. He was so excited for me when I started City Wide Legal Messenger Service. He loaned me $1,000, which I had to pay him back by the way. He wasn’t that nice! Jeff: He was truly my mentor. Did he know anything about filing stuff at the courthouses, doing certain papers? Absolutely not. Just his life lessons taught me, even to this day, I still use them. It has really taught me a lot and just got me far. Mighty Mike: That’s great. You answered one of the questions. What’s the greatest advice you’ve ever received? Jeff: The greatest advice I’ve ever received is definitely from my father. Be humbler. Be nice. Work hard. I taught my own kids that. I’d tell you. If you're nice … Don’t be too nice. You're going to be taken advantage of. I’m not saying that, but I’d say being nice, being compassionate, being humble will get so you much further in life. I truly believe that, and that’s the way I try to live my life and do my work. Mighty Mike: To provide an abundance of value without expectation just as a business practice, but also just as a person. There are many examples of that, whether it’s in your love life or with your family. If you provide value without expectation, it will come back to you. Like you said, don’t be taken advantage of, but sometimes it might feel like it and then the next day, you're like, wow, I didn’t expect you to do all these nice things for me. Jeff: Right. Mighty Mike: That’s the idea. Jeff, what would you do if you woke up today, had all the same skills and knowledge, had no clients, a smartphone, a car and only $100? What would you do in the next week? Jeff: I would definitely do some work reaching out to other people, advertising to a certain extent. I’d tell you. The best thing that I would do is to get out there and do a good job for folks. I think word of mouth advertisement has been a key for me to my success. It’s one thing to go out and say you're a process server or say you're going to do this and do that, but if you do it, it takes that one paralegal that you do a great job for. You communicate the whole time. You're doing everything you need to be doing. That paralegal could be involved in a group that tells another paralegal and so on and so forth. Jeff: I think part of doing that good job is communicating. Somebody sends you a paper. Don’t take three days to get back to them if it’s a rush and what’s going on. Certainly don’t take another week to send them back to return a service, that type of thing because again, that word of mouth could also hurt you too. It could be a very valuable factor. It could also hurt your business. I would pound the pavement and get out there and try to talk to as many people as I could, talk to paralegal groups, bar association, that type of thing. Mighty Mike: That’s good. One of the things that I take from your story is that, from your methods, is that be diligent. Get out there. Sometimes it’s nice to have a little hand-up, not a hand-out, but the truth is in this example, you only have $100. You have a car. You have the knowledge that you already have, and you have a smartphone so you can give the internet … You can search things. Guys, anybody can do this. You get out there and go after it. I say anybody can do it, like anybody who wants to build a business. Some people, they’re not cut out for serving papers, and if that’s the case, build the business; have someone else serve the papers. There’s a lot of really good husband and wife teams out there. Jeff, what is a parting piece of guidance you want to give to the servers out there? Jeff: Again, what we’ve talked about previously. Stay humble. Treat people with kindness. You have a job to do and certainly do it. In doing so, just remember this thing is bigger than you. Don’t go out there thinking you're Captain Bob, the process server and think that you're better than everybody, that type of thing. Just go out and communicate with your customer. Take good care of your customer. Communication is key. Jeff: I touched base on it earlier. I don't know how times I’ve used servers across the nation where they do 75% of the job. What I mean by that is, hey man, I got this rush. I need to serve right away. This is a big customer, blah, blah, blah. By gosh. They went out and they got it served right away, did a great job. A week later, hey, where is my return of service? I got to get this filed. The attorney is screaming at me. They got to get this filed. Follow through on your job. Do what it all right, not just half of it. Definitely get in the network groups. Meeting new guys and get involved with this and NAPPS members and stuff, a great, great tool. It’s great to get advice to people. Jeff: Again, I’ve been doing this for a lot of years. I still seek advice. I’ll call a server that I’ve been dealing with for 20 years and say, “Hey, man. How would you do this? What’s your viewpoint on this?” Never stop learning because I’d tell you. There’s a lot to learn in this industry. Mighty Mike: You're right, Jeff. There is. A big part of the industry for process servers, what I find most often is that they find themselves in a chasm alone by themselves and the way that they think that every other processor is their competition. The truth is that many process servers out there have too much work and they would be more than glad to give you the work if you can give them a discount. Jeff: Absolutely. Mighty Mike: If that’s what you need to get off the ground and to get your business rolling so you can raise your prices and have some more customers, more attorney clients come in, then that’s what you got to do. Jeff: Absolutely. Mighty Mike: I started out making $20 a paper. How about you? Jeff: When I worked at the law firm, I think I made about $4 an hour. Whether that’d be filing at the courthouse or serve a paper even add to that, yeah, it’s … I think then after that, as time went on, I think I was getting $20 a paper at that point. It’s been a long road. I certainly charge more for that these days. Mighty Mike: Jeff, I appreciate your story. I want to personally thank you for being on the show. I’ve been really impressed with your story and the whole situation with the neo-Nazi. That’s just a side thing. Watching the video and seeing your operation going on, it’s definitely worth being excited about. I’m excited to share it with the world. Jeff, what’s the best way that we can connect with you and then we’ll say goodbye? Jeff: Sure. You can reach us via email. Our email address is jeffENCORE@sbcglobal.net. Definitely a phone a call away, (614) 414-0730. Mighty Mike: Excellent. You can get that information in the show notes at www.processserverdaily.com/jeff.html Until next time, server nation, you’ve been served up some awesomeness by Jeff, the Nazi hunter and Mighty Mike, the podcast server. Mighty Mike: Server nation, I know that you know all about directories and that you know the importance of getting yourself on the web in as many places as possible, but it’s more than that, server nation. It’s about putting yourself on the websites that get ranked on Google, Yahoo and Bing. I’m excited about a new program that I’m starting. Really quickly, let me tell you. As a process server, I don’t cover the whole country, right? We send servers out to other process servers and we call that affiliates. My new program is going to incorporate a system. When my customers come on to my website and they do a location search, try to find a process server in a specific location, many times, I do not serve that area and so I might hire an affiliate in another area and manage to serve that way. That takes time and effort away from my local customers and the local efforts that I have here in Northern California. I want to personally invite each and every member of server nation to add themselves to my directory on my website. This is what’s going to happen. My customers who come to me loyally will search a specific location. If I don’t cover a specific location but you do, guess who shows up? You do. How great is that, server nation? I’m going to share something that means so much to me, my customers. I believe that this will benefit my customers because they will have a resource to go to, to find process servers and to get the best rates nationwide. Oh, but there’s a catch, server nation. There’s always a catch... My directory is free for an affiliate to sign up and get the basic affiliate level. If you do not perform when my customers come and they see that it’s not me or one of my employees or contractors and they see that it’s you, they’re going to see a rating next to your name. If your rating falls, you may not get any business. Server nation, give it a shot. Sign up for the free listing, but please, take care of my customers. I love them like they’re family. Visit www.processserverdaily.com/affiliates.html Mighty Mike: Until next time, server nation, stay safe out there!
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Episode #1 - Michael Kern Our guest today has been a Professional Process Server for over 30 years, Michael Kern has just been elected our 2017 President of the National Association of Professional Process Servers (www.napps.org) and is a proud and longtime board member of the California Association of Legal Support Professionals (www.calspro.org) and since its inception, formally known as CAPPS, CALSPRO was founded on the simple principles of providing continuing education, membership, legislative protection and improving on the professionalism to the process serving the industry.
Divorce Process Server Assignment Originally Conducted in July 2015 Greenville, SC Today, I completed GreenvilleNotary.com's first ever Process Service and it felt, well, it, it, felt kinda gooood. ? No guns, no bumps, no bruises and no getting chased. Walked right … Continue reading → The post Notary Blog & Podcast of Wedding Officiant Sonita M. Leak | “You've Been Served!” A Day in the Life of a One-Time Process Server appeared first on Wedding Officiant Sonita M. Leak.
Divorce Process Server Assignment Originally Conducted in July 2015 Greenville, SC Today, I completed GreenvilleNotary.com’s first ever Process Service and it felt, well, it, it, felt kinda gooood.
Safety is your responsibility. In this webinar, Process Servers Association of Colorado (PSACO) President Steve Glenn shares his tips and philosophies about process server safety. This presentation covers two key parts: attitude and front door experience. Steve walks through the process of a serve, from pulling up to the house to the time you serve the person or decide that they are not there and leave. This highlights situational awareness, how to put approach a home and put yourself in safety positions, and how to even exit a porch or deal with gated properties. Steve Glenn co-founded and has served as the Process Server Association of Colorado President since 2009. He created the PSACO Certification Course, authored the Process Servers Reference Manual and sat on the Colorado Supreme Court Civil Rule sub-committee. Before his career in legal support services, Steve served in the US Navy for 8 years then went on to a 22 year career in sales.
As the use of various social media platforms grows in prevalence, process servers and investigators alike are benefitting from using social media as a skip tracing tool. In this ServeNowEDU webinar, Joseph Jones of Bosco Legal will discuss the difference between a basic Google search and real OSINT searching, how to locate accounts, hidden photos and the other various pieces of information to help you locate your subject, even when it’s not obvious. Joseph will also discuss non-public information and how it can be located, how online searching for skip tracing purposes differs from a true social media investigation, and will explain supplemental skip tracing techniques and tools. Joseph Jones is a licensed private investigator and the Vice President of Bosco Legal Services, Inc. Joseph has worked in every position at Bosco, starting with taking out the trash and sweeping the parking lots and as such has an intimate knowledge of all aspects of investigations, process serving, records retrieval and various other attorney services. Joseph has a degree in psychology from California Southern University, is a member of the California Association of Licensed Private Investigators, the California Association of Legal Support Professionals, the National Association of Professional Process Servers, and the National Council of Investigation and Security Services, and has received specialized training from the military, various law enforcement agencies and the nation’s top private intelligence firms. He is also a CALSPro Certified Process Server.
Jessica and Josh take on the first two episodes of AKA Jessica Jones: AKA Ladies Night and AKA and Crush Syndrome. Could a lawyer successfully argue the insanity defense for Hope Shlottman? How do law firms use Private Investigators? Exactly how big a law firm is Hogarth, Chao & Benowitz LLP? Did Jessica Jones give proper service of process? Check of this podcast to hear these issues and more. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/thelegalgeeks)
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