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What's poppin', cum-dump?Jesse's back for din-dins with Firecrotch and Normcore, and a salty reframe of season two, episode two, 'Vaulter'. We do not want an adversarial situation here. We need the full, fiber-optic, clear-channel sh*t: We need to find to find the extraneous Danish.What constitutes an agricultural walk? How many skulls is a lot of skulls? Does he want some hand gel? A banana and a nap? And what if a good person ran WayStar?How's that for a carrot? Let's just hope that there's no... weirdness with our fuzzy boundaries, right?Empty the contents of your scrotum at our feet: fuckoff@firecrotchandnormcore.comSave us from having to give nickel hand jobs under a bridge: https://www.patreon.com/THEYLIKETOWATCHWhy don't you come in and spend the day with us? https://www.angelcomedy.co.uk/event-detail/they-like-to-watch-live-25th-jan-the-bill-murray-london-tickets-202501251500/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Host Dave Sobel discusses the evolving landscape of artificial intelligence (AI) in business operations, highlighting a recent study by MIT and McKinsey. The study reveals a significant gap between high-performing companies and their peers, with top firms achieving faster returns on their AI investments. Key factors contributing to this success include strong executive support, a shift in partnerships towards established consultants, enhanced interdepartmental collaboration, and effective data management practices. Sobel emphasizes the importance of real-world use cases, such as Waystar's new AI solution aimed at streamlining the appeal process for denied healthcare claims, which addresses a substantial financial loss in the U.S. healthcare system.The episode also delves into the challenges faced by customer service teams in adopting AI technologies. A survey from Freshworks indicates that while there is a strong desire to leverage AI for automating tasks, many customer service agents feel uncomfortable with its implementation. Sobel suggests that organizations should introduce AI as a collaborative tool to enhance job roles rather than replace them, and highlights the potential for IT providers to offer consulting services to help companies develop effective AI usage policies.In the regulatory landscape, Sobel covers new export controls on advanced AI computing chips announced by the U.S. Department of Commerce, aimed at safeguarding national security. These regulations have drawn criticism from major chipmaker NVIDIA, which argues that they could hinder global innovation. Additionally, President Biden's executive order to accelerate the construction of AI data centers raises concerns about environmental impacts and energy consumption, as the demand for electricity from data centers is projected to rise significantly in the coming years.Finally, the episode addresses Microsoft's recent announcements, including the forced installation of the new Outlook email client on Windows 10 devices and significant price increases for Microsoft 365 subscriptions in select Asian markets. Sobel notes that these changes could lead to user frustration and increased administrative burdens for IT providers. He concludes by urging listeners to prepare for potential client pushback and to consider the implications of these developments on their business strategies.Three things to know today00:00 AI in Action: From Faster ROI to Denied Claims and Chatbot Growing Pains05:10 Regulations Everywhere: AI Chips, Data Centers, and Why IT Pros Should Brace Themselves09:22 Microsoft's Big Moves: Higher Prices, Forced Installs, and Passkeys—Love It or Leave It?  Supported by:  https://huntress.com/msp/https://mspradio.com/engage/   All our Sponsors: https://businessof.tech/sponsors/ Do you want the show on your podcast app or the written versions of the stories? Subscribe to the Business of Tech: https://www.businessof.tech/subscribe/Looking for a link from the stories? The entire script of the show, with links to articles, are posted in each story on https://www.businessof.tech/ Support the show on Patreon: https://patreon.com/mspradio/ Want to be a guest on Business of Tech: Daily 10-Minute IT Services Insights? Send Dave Sobel a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/businessoftech Want our stuff? Cool Merch? Wear “Why Do We Care?” - Visit https://mspradio.myspreadshop.com Follow us on:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/28908079/YouTube: https://youtube.com/mspradio/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mspradionews/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mspradio/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@businessoftechBluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/businessof.tech

Alissa Coram and Ken Shreve analyze Thursday's market action and discuss key stocks to watch on Stock Market Today.

Alissa Coram and Ken Shreve walk through the day's technical action with stocks to watch in Wednesday's edition of Stock Market Today.

welcome to wall-e's tech briefing for monday, june 10th! here's a glimpse of today's top tech news: waystar's ipo: waystar shares dropped more than 3% on their nasdaq debut. despite pricing its ipo at $21.50 per share, the stock closed at $20.70. the company aims to use the proceeds to pay off existing debt. microsoft copilot+ update: microsoft announced that the recall feature in its copilot+ pcs will be off by default due to security concerns. users will need to manually enable this feature. ai agents rise: following the success of chatgpt, companies have begun implementing ai agents to manage customer interactions. venture firms report increased interest, and companies like microsoft and google lead in ai agent developments. rippling's policy change: rippling has banned former employees, now at competitors, from participating in its tender offer stock sale to protect sensitive financial information. nasa's mars sample return mission: nasa awarded $1.5 million contracts to seven companies to develop proposals for its mars sample return mission, focusing on less complex and cost-effective designs. stay tuned for tomorrow's tech updates!

Waystar Holding CEO Matt Hawkins discussed why the company decided to go public. This comes as the health-care payments software maker shares slipped in its trading debut after raising $968 million in the year's largest initial public offering by a US-based company. Hawkins spoke to Bloomberg's Romaine Bostick and Vonnie Quinn. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

“Making improvements is challenging. But we can't give up and we've got to learn how to do it better.” “Speak, engage, help, be helped. Be part of society. Be an optimist towards the fact that people can change, that people can learn.” John Pepper, P&G's former CEO, and Ursula Burns, Xerox's former CEO, sit down for a candid conversation on race, understanding and our discourse with each other. This is a conversation the two longtime friends have been having for years - alongside many of us. While John needs no introduction to many, Ursula's impressive career is worth sharing... Ursula M. Burns is the Retired Chairman and CEO of Xerox Corporation and VEON Limited — and among the first Black women to become CEO of a Fortune 500 company. Ursula is also a founding partner of Integrum Holdings, Non-Executive Chairman of Teneo Holdings LLC, and the Executive Chairman of Plum Acquisition Corp. At Xerox, Ursula served from 2009-2017, having joined as a summer intern in 1980, after which she rose through the ranks across corporate services, manufacturing and product development. Ursula also serves on several corporate boards, including Uber Technologies, Exxon Mobil, Endeavor Group Holdings, Waystar and Hear.com Ursula's also involved in leadership counsel for the Ford Foundation, MIT, the Cornell Tech Board, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Mayo Clinic, among others. From 2009-2016, President Barack Obama appointed Ursula to lead the White House national program on Science, Technology, Engineering and Math (STEM). Ursula also led the President's Export Council from 2010 - 2016. In February 2022, Burns joined the U.S. Department of Commerce's Advisory Council on Supply Chain Competitiveness. Ursula is a mechanical engineering alumni of Columbia University and NYU - and she's a member of the National Academy of Engineering, the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, the Royal Academy of Engineering and the G7 Gender Equity Advisory Council. This is a replay of a past episode, originally recorded on February 25, 2022. This is an important conversation we hope will make many think and feel more deeply. While each of our guests are part of some great organizations who support the sharing of our views, these are the views of our guests alone. Got ideas for future deep dive topics with past and future guests? Reach out to pgalumpod@gmail.com

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*Prior episodes reviewing Succession:Season 1: E98 (May 22, 2023)Season 2: E102 (June 26, 2023)Season 3: E109 (Sept 11 , 2023)0:00 -- Intro.2:12-- About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel.2:58 -- Start of interview.3:54 -- On the influence and leadership style of Logan Roy. The "ultimate corporate governance challenge."6:41 --  Comparing the (fictional) Roy family with the (real) Murdochs and Sultzbergers. "Why is Logan trying to sell Waystar? The answer is simple. He knows his kids can't cut it. So, his way of getting out of this whole dilemma is to sell the company, give the kids billions of dollars, you know, as their share for their stock, and then let them all go their own way."09:47 --  On dual-class share structures. "[In the media business] just because you have dual shares doesn't mean you will always be protected from the vagaries of the marketplace." (example: the Bancroft family with the WSJ).13:06 -- On the role of media and politics. Joe Nocera: "My line on succession is using succession to understand corporate America is like using the Simpsons to really understand small towns." 18:42 -- On corporate money in politics: "Forget Presidential elections. The real thing that happens in real life is that companies give lots of money to congressmen and senators who are on committees that they care about and who are willing to do their bidding. That's how it works. And that's why the little guy always gets screwed in these things, because they don't have the potency. They don't have the money. They don't have the access. And in terms of influence, it's not just media. It's all kinds of companies that are doing this for their own interest. And that's the way the world works. Is it nice? Is it good? No, not necessarily, but that's how it works."19:57 -- On fraud and stockholder litigation. The overstating of subscribers in India by GoJo.24:05 -- The role of the board of Waystar Royco in the takeover negotiation with GoJo. The example of Twitter acquisition by Elon Musk, and HP-Autonomy. Joe Nocera: "Companies overpay all the time because the CEO wants to build his empire, because they think there's something there that turns out not to be there, because they're in a competition with another company and they got to have this victory. Overpaying is very normal and then you have these multi-billion dollar write-downs blah blah blah."28:23 -- Comparing Lukas Matsson to Elon Musk. "The rise of the ungovernable CEO."30:34 -- On obstacles to women in the workplace. The cases of Shiv, Geri and Ebba. Kate: "It's an extreme version, but these are real issues that real women face all the time. I don't know that there's a corporate governance solution to it, other than culture, right? You know, it all comes back to culture and how you build culture." 36:35 -- On corporate culture: Joe: "In the modern age, the Rupert Murdochs and the Logan Roys are anomalies. I mean, you've got a situation now where David Solomon at GS is being widely criticized. Why? Because he's a harsh boss, he's a brutal boss, he makes demands, he's not an empathetic person. And nowadays companies want leaders that can nurture and lead by example and can get people to do things because they want to do them for the person or the company rather than they have to. And so, and then, you know, nowadays they can't even get the employees to come to work."39:12 -- On ESG and the politicization of corporate governance. Joe: "Why did the ESG come along in the first place?A lot of the reason is because the employee base at a company like Kellogg's, or Procter & Gamble, or Xerox, or IBM, they're mostly socially liberal. They're pro-choice. They're pro-environment. They're pro-BLM. And a lot of this movement began in the first place because companies wanted to make their employees happy. They wanted to give their employees a sense of a higher purpose than just, you know, banging out copier machines. And so ESG evolved. You go to a company like General Mills or Kellogg's and you walk down the aisle [...]And all on the walls, you're going to see, you know, come and help build a house for the homeless next Saturday. Or, you know, we're going to be the greenest company in the world in five years. Here's what we need to do. Or blah, blah, blah. People inside these companies are not complaining about it. They like it. [T]he conservative movement has made a big deal about this and they've gone after Larry Fink at BlackRock, but to me, 90% of it is bullshit. It's just, you know, ESG is a way to make your employees happy. That's all it is. And for the conservatives, it's a lovely way to bash corporations."43:54 -- On the last boardroom scene, voting for the GoJo takeover.46:36 -- Take-aways for corporate directors from the Succession show. Kate: "I think it's a tremendous cautionary tale for directors and officers and leaders of companies in terms of the core part of governance, which I believe is, how do you make decisions? How does a corporation make decisions?" "People, process, policies." "What's the structure for decision making? Who gets to make the decision?  Joe: "Of the many tasks a CEO has, one of the most important is to find his successor [...] a CEO should have somebody lined up." 52:30 -- Final thoughts on the show. Joe: "I do think that some founders subconsciously want their company to fail after they're gone. They want this idea that only I could have built this and nobody can succeed me and do it as well as I did. And that's what I think was going on in season two. And I think maybe that's what's going on throughout Logan's, the four seasons that we watched Logan." Kate: "Logan Roy did nothing to make his children the kind of serious people who could take over for him. He thought there was only one him and the company dies with him. And it turns out that's probably kind of true."Kate O'Leary is the Global Executive Litigation Counsel at General Electric.Joe Nocera is a distinguished business journalist and author.  You can follow Evan on social media at:Twitter: @evanepsteinLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/epsteinevan/ Substack: https://evanepstein.substack.com/__You can join as a Patron of the Boardroom Governance Podcast at:Patreon: patreon.com/BoardroomGovernancePod__Music/Soundtrack (found via Free Music Archive): Seeing The Future by Dexter Britain is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License

Plus: WeWork plans to file for bankruptcy as early as next week. And healthcare-payments company Waystar delays one of the year's last big IPOs. Keith Collins hosts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to Part II of this special episode with Lucy Prebble, executive producer and writer from the hit tv show Succession. If you're curious about why you both loved and hated Logan, why Shiv was as deeply flawed as her brothers and why a bromance like Tom and Greg's made us feel all kinds of things, then hit play because all those questions and more will be answered.As Lucy and Damon take a deep dive into the world of Waystar Royco and Succession, Lucy shares openly to what lengths deeply researched real world stories were used to create this fictional company, goes on to explain that Logan Roy's media mogul character was the only archetype in the show, and then takes us inside the writer's room that leaned on the power of constraint to tell this story for the ages in the most Succession-y way possible, and yes, Succession-y is a word. As hard as it was to watch at times, as the dark side of the world of work was broadcast into our living rooms, this television show that is, at it's core, about love and power - the need for it, the absence of it, and the lengths people will go to get it and then keep it - can be received as a gift to us all in the way it helps us find clarity on the types of companies and company cultures that we want to create and be part of.If you haven't already listened to Part I, where we learned about Lucy's background as a playwright in London's West End, her time as a TV Showrunner and how she nearly didn't accept the offer to work on Succession, you can - check it out here.Show notes: If you love our Pop Culture First episodes, be sure to check out this joyous conversation between Damon, Priya Parker and Gary Ware about a very different workplace run by, the legend himself, Ted Lasso.Damon also mentioned his recent conversation with Jamila Rizvi on how to make work actually work for women. You can find that brilliant episode here.Bonus content:Culture Amp is excited to announce that Culture First is back and our virtual event series is going global with three events across APAC, The Americas and EMEA. At this year's Culture First, today's guest Lucy Prebble, will be doing an exclusive sit-down with Culture Amp CEO Didier Elzinga. As a thank-you for listening to the Culture First podcast, we'd love to give you access to this brilliant bonus session. Head to http://cultureamp.com/podcastcfg to register for what is sure to be jam-packed conversation between Didier and Lucy.If you've enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, follow and leave a review.Learn more about Culture Amp at www.cultureamp.com or @cultureamp on InstagramConnect with Lucy Prebble on Twitter @lucyprebblishSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

We're getting sample roasted. This week on the podcast the guys sit down to go over some of the challenges that come along with cafe succession planning and the work experiences that inspired them to build Cat & Cloud with a positive company culture. Listen to the full episode to hear their thoughts on how to face the unknowns of your business while remaining open to the adventure, and how to break the negative work cycle that keeps most of us from doing what we love, and finding positivity in what we do. Do you have a question you've been dying to ask us? Do you wanna hear us talk about it on the podcast? Visit our website catandcloud.com/podcast, or email us at podcast@catandcloud.com and tell us what it is, and maybe your question will be the one we answer next week! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/catcloudcoffee/ Cat & Cloud: https://catandcloud.com/ Chris Baca's Personal Blog: https://chrisbaca.com/ We are Cat & Cloud Coffee. Started by three friends trying to pursue their passions, with Integrity and intentionally, and it's our mission to inspire connection, by creating memorable experiences. We're a small independent business and this is our story. Enjoy!

We cover a couple of interesting local disputes on this week's Access Louisville podcast.First off, Reporter Michael L. Jones tells us about a copyright infringement lawsuit involving the Honorable Order of Kentucky Colonels and the Kentucky Colonels International. The HOKC won a judgement against the KCI but it looks like an appeal is in the works.After that we talk about a bankruptcy case for Louisville restaurant chain Green District. And after that, we talk about the closure of the Fern Valley Strike and Spare, which comes after a land sale but not without a bit of social media discord.After that we switch gears and talk a possible IPO by Louisville health tech firm Waystar. And we go over a few restaurant and retail stories involving a new taco joint — Bakersfield coming to the Highlands; and a new retailer, BJ's Wholesale Club, coming to Jefferson Mall.Access Louisville is a weekly podcast from Louisville Business First. It's available on popular podcast services such as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and more. 

It's been a pretty big year for movies so far. "The Super Mario Bros. Movie," "Barbie," "Guardians of the Galaxie Vol. 3" and "Oppenheimer" have all gotten film fans off of couches and back into theaters. And there have been a number of big streaming shows this year, including several notable series finales from "Succession," "Ted Lasso" and "The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel." Plus, HBO launched "The Last of Us" and we've enjoyed other streaming hits like "The Bear" and "Shrinking." But how good of an entertainment year has 2023 been? Are Oscar races still a bit unclear? Will this year's movies and shows stand the test of time? This week's episode is a report card of sorts as we have tipped past the midway point in the year. About the show Streamed & Screened is a podcast about movies and TV hosted by Bruce Miller, a longtime entertainment reporter who is now the editor of the Sioux City Journal in Iowa and Terry Lipshetz, a senior producer for Lee Enterprises based in Madison, Wisconsin. Next week With no end to the strikes in sight, we plan to look back at the year so far. What are the hits? What are the misses? And what will stand the test of time? Episode transcript Note: The following transcript was created by Adobe Premiere and may contain misspellings and other inaccuracies as it was generated automatically: Welcome everyone to another episode of Streamed & Screened, an entertainment podcast about movies and TV from Lee Enterprises, I'm Terry Lipshetz, a senior producer at Lee and co-host of the program with the incomparable Bruce Miller, editor of the Sioux City Journal and a long time entertainment reporter. Bruce, we're here then halfway through 2020. You know what it is? It's report card time. It is. We have school buddies, report card time for entertainment because we're past the halfway mark. We should look at the things that are have already happened. Which ones are good? Which ones are bad? Which ones will stand the rest of the year? Because right about now, people start talking. Oscar. At which films would actually make it to that big time at the end of the year when they go, Oh, of course this is going to be a winner. Last year we had Top Gun Maverick as kind of the one that was like, yeah, that's that's a done deal. That one's going to be in there. And it was. But this year, boy, I think I have three titles that will make it to the end of the year. Okay. Can you. Ah. Which will make it to the end of the year. Yeah. That will be considered for awards at the end of the year. Well, Oppenheimer. Right, Definitely. Are we only talking movies that we've seen so far or movies that have happened since January to now? So we're going to go. Oppenheimer Oh, yeah. Barbie. Barbie Yes, I do. I really do think it'll be in there. I think it'll be in the. Okay. Okay. One more. I'm going to just I'm going to throw this one out there. Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse man could be. Yes, Spider-Man could be. You know, they like to marginalize animated films. Yeah, I'm in the animated category, so it could be because it was very good. But I think air might have another opportunity. Oh, yes, Yes. That's still on my list of movies to see. Yeah, because it had really good supporting performances. Matt Damon was good in that and Matt is all over the map this year. He's in everything and I don't think he has enough clout to get a nomination for Oppenheimer, even though he's in it. But I think he's like the least of the big names that are in it. I think Robert Downey Jr has a better shot than he does. I would agree. Yeah. So ere is my third one. Asteroid city is one that could creep in there because of the west Anderson imprint. You know, I was going to throw that one. Yeah, I was going to throw that one out at you, too, if you could, because that's one I didn't get a chance to see it, but it's now available for, I think, streaming and DVD rental. So I'm planning to check that one out very soon. And then I asked friends, I said, What would you put on the list? And now you're going to be shocked when I tell you this. Are you? If God, it's me, Margaret. Interesting. And that is not on my list at all, huh? But they thought it was really well done. They thought it was a good adaptation of a Judy Blume novel. Well, you know. All right. And then, like you, Spider-Verse, I think, has a a shot at something. But I don't know if it could be best picture, but that's that's kind of where we're at. I don't think it goes beyond those films for Oscar consideration because have you really seen something that good that you you want to remember? Yeah, we've talked about this on some some past episodes to where it's an effort for me personally to get out to the theater. I'm not I'm not going to just go and see every single film. If there's a lot out there, I'll see as many as I can, you know? And last year I saw two Top Gun and Avatar. I'm up to about six now this year. Oh, my God. Right. Because there's like I know because there's been a lot that I've wanted to see this year. But even now I'm looking at what's still to come. And really, until we get to that Scorsese film killers, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if there's a whole lot else that I want to see. Like the Granturismo. I know you just saw that one. I sort of want to maybe see it, but I think that's just a wait until it comes out on streaming for me. That's a fast and furious crowd kind of picture. Yeah, I wanted it to be more Ford versus Ferrari, you know, but it's not. It's it's rocky on wheels is what you get out of that sucker. Maestro is a big one to look forward to where Bradley Cooper plays Leonard Bernstein. And it looks like he has a real shot of beating Killian Murphy for best actor. Really? Yeah, that's. That's a big one. And then that they've done a remake of The Color Purple, the the Steven Spielberg film. But now the musical version that's getting a lot of buzz. I'm hearing things about Saltburn, which is an emerald vinyl film. I know that image is throwing you off the track here. Alexander Payne has the holdovers. Okay, so there are ones that are out there that you probably haven't heard about but are getting early buzz as potential best picture, best actor, best actress. You know, so Napoleon, that's another one. We don't know who's going to make it. So, you know, doing might be next year might not be this year. But best actress, when you look at that very thing this year, very thin. I mean, if I'm thinking of Margot Robbie as best actress for playing Barbie, is this really going to happen? And then you have Fantasia Barrino in The Color Purple. That's that's almost a made for nomination role, but it's a remake of sorts. It's not you know, I mean, have you have you gotten excited about that? I'm not so sure. You look at best actor Gillian Murphy is the only one that you've been hearing about for best actor. But like I say, Bradley Cooper could be in there. Matt Damon could be in there for air. There are some other ones, Joaquin Phenix for Napoleon, for the holdovers. So there are ones that sound a little better there. But the real strength is in the supporting actor categories. That's where you're going to see some people that you've, you know. Okay. Emily Blunt from Oppenheimer. She was the wife and she was always kind of mean and nasty. Florence Pugh from Oppenheimer as the girlfriend. Right. Right. Then from there. Are you there? God, it's me, Margaret. Kathy Bates, Rachel McAdams, potential Scarlett Johansson from Asteroid Fever. Asteroid City, rather. Mm hmm. Potential. And then supporting actor Robert Downey Jr, I think is a must. He's in there. Ryan Gosling as can. Come on. Possibly. Yeah. I loved him. He was great. I think they always do try to throw in one there so that you think pretty pretty possibly get this this could be it. And then then they don't give it to him. They pull it from him. But you know, potential best director Christopher Nolan, because that will absolutely right. Greta Gerwig Because she did something with Barbie that wasn't just the same old crap that we've seen before. Wes Anderson because of, you know, they like him. Scorsese Come on, you can't be him. I think you can even say right now he's in the list. Really win it. I don't know. He's always yeah, he's always left kind of off to the side, but he's a bridesmaid all the time. So. So. So you never really know where these are going to go. But I do think that thus far we have not had a rush of strong best picture, best actor at best actress. You know, I think it's anybody's game at this point. And they they only have to get into theaters briefly by the end of this calendar year. Correct. They've changed it so that you have to have two weeks. And it used to be you could do kind of a one week and a thing and then you open in January and you kind of take a run with it. But they've made it a little more difficult. But I think it's a little fairer and it had to be a number. It wasn't just one market in Los Angeles or some other kinds of things. So maybe we'll actually get these ones. You never know. But the rules are a little, little different this year. Do you think there's anything that might get screwed up, too? Because, you know, there's been a few delays here and there, the writers strike now I'm assuming most of the films that are still due to come out this year are at at worst, just in post-production right now. Correct. I mean, there's probably nothing filming. I thought they said that there could be a problem with Dune coming out in December. Will they push it to try and get there? We'll see just how we're going to go the next year. Don't worry about that. And then there's the anticipation. So that could be affected. But most of the ones that we're seeing advertised now, they're done. They're ready. I was watching a baseball game last night, The New York Mets, they've got a three man TV booth, but then they also have a fourth person that kind of wanders around and we'll talk to celebrities. We'll talk to, you know, family of players might, you know, retired players, that kind of thing. So he's wandering around and speaks with Steve Schirripa, who you may remember from The Sopranos is as Bobby Bakula above Bobby Bucklebury. And they were talking to him because he's doing a podcast now, I think is with Michael Imperioli, where they're looking back at The Sopranos, and I believe they're just rewatching all the episodes and kind of talking about them. Now, he made an interesting comment, and this is one that I've always thought about this show because I watched it heavily when it first came out. And then a few years ago, I actually rewatched the entire series start to finish. And we're talking, you know, a solid eight, eight or nine years after it went off the air. And one thing that he mentioned, which I've always felt strongly about, is that it's a show that will stand the test of time, because other than the cars that they're driving or maybe the technology that they're using, like those old flip phones, or they would still make some phone calls on a payphone every once in a while, which those things don't exist anymore. But other than those things, the show still holds up. I mean, it's just a show about relationships. Are there any movies this year that you see that are going to stand the test of time? I mean, like in Oppenheimer? Sure, because it's a period piece. So, you know, there's no reason that wouldn't. But are there movies that we're seeing this year that we're going to be watching 50 years from now? I think we're going to see a lot of Barbies. I've said this before. I think they're going to be trying to milk that one for every dime they can get out of it. And so I would not be surprised to see Barbie two, three, four or five. It's like Rocky. You saw Rocky and you said, oh, my God, this was so good. And then all of a sudden we're up to Rocky six. And then they're doing Creed as a subset of all of this. So yeah, I think some of those ones that are very populist, they feel that they are no lose. You can't lose with these things because there's a built in audience for it. And even if it's bad, they'll come. This is a bad year because we haven't had a lot of variety in terms of the kinds of films that we're seeing. In fact, I, you know, when you see these last few covered years, you look and you think, do they really need ten nominees for some of those? You know, four for best picture? Because, man, some of those shouldn't be on those lists, to be honest. Do you think they'll ever pare that back to the. It was traditionally it was five right up until whenever you know what studios are behind that and they'll make a lot of money if their show can say it was a best picture nominee. And so are they going to give up the opportunity to advertise that? No way. But I really wish they would go back to five because they were easier to get your hands around. And then they had to have really something. It had to have it to be able to make it into the final five. Yeah. And I always feel, too, that it's like the Disney Pixar thing where one of the whatever movie they do is almost guaranteed to be an automatic in that ten and if you get a 20 right now, right. You're going to tell me right now that Elemental is the best picture nominee. No, I think in that case, I if they're are going to put an animated one in, that's where Spider-Verse gets in their mind, because that was far better than sorry, Elemental. Yeah, I tolerated it. It was okay. But I preferred Super Mario Brothers, to be honest with you, over Elemental. I didn't like the look of it. I thought it really cheap and it looked like something they totally wouldn't do. Like, could you see any of that? It was designed to look like an amusement park, but I couldn't imagine doing a ride where we going around and all of a sudden we're on fire. And then the next thing you know, we're in wet. And I mean, it's like a ride. So I don't know. That's maybe they could do it as it's a water park ride where you ride through the wet part first and then you dry off, semi dries you off with a blowtorch. That's right. You know, can I just sidebar here? I'll tell you a story. Sure. There was a home show here in town way back when. Like this is like so far back is like, was it a home or are there things that are still home worthy? And they had a thing called the environment. And you go in there and it goes through four seasons. Well, you're in the thing. So it's basically a shower, right? Because it rains on you and then it has like a cool breeze. It goes through so winter and then there's a warming breeze summer, and then there's kind of like a wind and that's fall. And you got all of the Four Seasons in the course of the thing I did it and I thought, this is something I will never have in my house is, you know, now we all have them in our homes. So there we are. But yeah, and that's kind of what Elemental is, is just a way to get the elements together and make it look like we're doing more than we are. But no, I, I think that has no shot. Okay. What about TV? What do you think is worthy of the TV things? Yeah. So, you know, we've talked about how it's tough to get me out to theater and this is really good, but when it comes to TV, it's easy to get me right because it's the end of the night. Kids get to bed, you know, even if it's just 45 minutes before my wife nods off, We can we can usually sneak in something in a lot of the shows that are nominated for primetime Emmys, which have been pushed back now to early next year. Yeah, they were supposed to be in September, but there's a lot of shows that made the nominations list, which came out in 2023. I mean, we're starting with one that that I think could clean up The Last of US from HBO. Oh, all right. Okay. You know, that was to me, HBO has been putting out some really good kind of doomsday ish programing for a number of years now. And it always feels like it's like a, you know, end of the year or beginning of the year type of thing. And I think they went off, you know, splendidly with Last of US. I mean, that is just it. I got roped in from the beginning and it was a zombie show. I'm not a big horror person, so I'm not going to I don't want to watch gory things. And it had its moments of kind of grossness, but it was more of like the humans story of what happens to people who are put in very difficult situations. And it's a show that's based off of a video game and they made it work. It was tremendous. I loved it. So you think it's going to stand the test of time? Do you think it'll have five years from now? People will be talking about it. I think it's the type of show that possibly they could be. Now we'll see what happens when season two comes. You know, will they be able to continue that magic that they found in season one? We'll see. We'll see. I thought that the bear I loved in the first season and I adored it in the second season, I thought they were able to avoid a sophomore slump and make it even better because we knew the characters. So I had one. I don't know what a three third season would be like. Maybe they fall apart and covidiots and they have no business. I don't know. I love that show. I think that was the real keeper. Yeah, I'm only about halfway through the season two of the bear, but other than I thought it was a little bit, I thought that first episode was a little sluggish, but I like how they've kind of developed the characters and given each character kind of that moment to shine, where, you know, we're looking at a sushi chef and what she's doing, and then they send the pastry chef overseas and give him a moment to shine. So I think it's really been a good season for character development. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, and I think those stand alone episodes are good. I like that where you maybe give the other people kind of a week off and then you focus on one. I think that's a great idea that should be copied by others. There's another show that I just started as well, so I'm kind of bouncing back and forth now between between the Bear, which I just watched by myself. And then my wife and I just started this because I still have the Apple TV plus going right now, but shrinking, which came out in January with Jason Segel, Harrison Ford, Jessica Williams. And I think that picked up a couple of nominations for it for for actor and actress. Have you seen that one at all? Yeah, and I couldn't get into it, really, one that I really cared about and you see what I mean? Yeah, It was one where I can usually sense for my wife right away if she's going to like it or not. In comedies, it's, it can be a tough sell, but I think it has the type of humor that she likes. And it's it was co-created not just Jason Segel, but Bill Lawrence and Brett Goldstein from Ted Lasso were part of that. So I think that kind of darker humor that you see in Ted Lasso carries over into this show. And it's one I think, you know, we're going to keep watching it for sure. And I'm already looking forward to what will season two bring. I don't know if it will stand the test of time, but but I am enjoying it as a show so far. Would Ted Lasso stand the test of time? Yes, in less. Here's the caveat to that. If soccer finally gets so huge in America like they've been talking for the last 40 years, I remember as a kid, my parents signed me up for soccer and they're like, it's going to be the next big sport in the U.S. And 40 years later, it's doing a lot better now than it was 40 years ago. But but man, oh man, it just cannot top baseball or football or, you know, and isn't that weird how parents get their kids into soccer? I mean, it's like manic. And every Saturday they're gone somewhere. And you think this has got to grow. It must be the kids get sick of it. And then they say, and I following it anymore, and I'm done not to take away from the accomplished. It's because it is. I mean, you look at women's soccer in America and it's huge. I mean, it's obviously where where it's really excelled is it's become other than this current world Cup where the U.S. got bounced early on on the men's side, it just has not quite evolved to where it is. But they are still you know, MLS has been around now for 20 plus years. It's doing well. It's you know, stadiums are getting larger, the crowds are, but it's just it's still not where the NFL is. But as long as soccer remains kind of, you know, on the periphery, then it makes sense. But but as soon as, you know, soccer becomes mainstream in the U.S. like it is in Europe or anywhere else in the world, then the humor that you get out of this, you know, American football coach, it just wouldn't make sense in here. Yeah. Yeah. Well, how are you? Where do you stand on succession? I don't know if that one is going to stand the test of time. And I'll tell you why. Politics are very cyclical and they are taking a page out of current politics and the current state of Fox News to do that show. I think that show will will definitely hang on as being kind of an in the moment type of thing. And and maybe a decade out, people will still be talking about succession. But if the landscape changes drastically, but also not only just at the political landscape but the technology cycle, because part of what makes that show is they were talking about, you know, how will the Waystar royco get involved in other technologies, other forms of media? And as soon as the media changes into some other format, that just doesn't make sense that we can't understand anymore, or it just seems too old. I think it might go away, but it's a great show. I love it. Yeah, I think it's one of those ones that the hype was bigger than the actual execution. It didn't have one of those kind of creators to it. At least not that I can pin who this was. His driving project. This was his life. This is what he is putting out there. It seemed very much like Law and order always is ripped from the headlines when you find something on it that you say, okay, let's go with it and let's go as outrageous as we possibly can, and we'll do an audience. But I don't think it's one of those ones where you go, Oh my Lord, they really came up with something here. I want to watch All in the Family is kind of that, you know, that was obviously a comedy, but it was so groundbreaking for the time. But today you just wouldn't even think twice about that type of humor. It might not even work. I don't think about air. I don't think because they'd say, Oh, no, we can't. We're going to offend somebody here, right? We cannot do this. It's not getting on. So I don't think it would. And that actually came from Great Britain and we adapted it and look at how well that worked out. That was a good thing. And those you know, they would do maybe six episodes and be done with it. And in the United States in those days, you had to be 20 to 30 episodes of a show to have a season. And that's, you know, that's an interesting look at where they are. But, you know, I really I struggle a because a lot of the shows that we're watching on network TV aren't good numbers, right? And then on streaming, it's such an abbreviated season that you don't get enough time to dig in and kind of embrace it. So I don't know if I mean, you look at White Lotus, that was a big thing last year and White Lotus got a lot of attention. But season two, okay, it's okay, but it isn't one of those ones. You go, Oh my God, White Lotus changed the landscape. It didn't. No, I think I think you're right. With the episode length, the structure of every series. I mean, I'm thinking about one what was one of the network TV shows that got a lot of buzz this year? And it was night court because it actually did well. And I am shocked when people go, oh one, the best TV shows ever, Abbott Elementary, It's borrowing the office. It's borrowing from a lot of I mean, it's it's a fine show. I enjoy watching it now they don't have Modern Family to watch on Wednesday nights. It's my my anchor. But it is not as groundbreaking as they want it to be, I think, because there are certain things that need to. When they did lean in to the plight of teachers today, that's where they were going. Right. But when it starts getting to be a principal who's running a side business at the office, I don't care. I really do. Yeah. The the thing that I found interesting with with Night Court, there is a piece I read in the New York Times that talked about how they kind of followed the model of the original series, which was to not necessarily pull headlines out and make it a little bit more timeless. Right? You can, you can watch an episode of Night Court from the late eighties today, and it wouldn't you just watch and be like, Yeah, yeah, exactly. But here's the problem with night court. Even the modern version of it, who goes back and watches old episodes of night court? I'll watch old episodes of Cheers or Seinfeld all day long. I love Night Court when it first came out years and years ago, but it's not a show that I go back to, you know, maybe if it popped on, if I was flipping through a channel nice, I was like, Oh, there's night court, Maybe I'll maybe I'll watch 20 more minutes of rent and then move on. But I think that's the problem with that show is, is the reason why it's kind of resonating. The new version, the rebooted version is, sure, it's kind of timeless and, and it doesn't really matter and it's not right. And it's just kind of that basic comedy sitcom humor, but it's not above and beyond anything we've seen before. It's just it's a pleasant 22 minutes to kind of me I don't have to turn the channel kind of show. Yep. You know. All right, I'll sit through it because I got to finish out the hour and then we'll see what happens at the end. 8:00. You know, it's just it's that kind of a concept. But yeah, this was not a year to remember it, even though we're going to hear a lot of. Oh, my God, this is just the best series. This is the best whatever. I don't think so. And I think the more we get away from it, like Jan, to reward these people, the less we are going to remember about what it was that made them so great. Marvelous. Mrs. Maisel. Well, that one stand the test of time. No, not at all. Yeah, I liked it. I like I do, too. You know, I marveled at the idea that they were spending so much money on that show. I mean, the costumes, the sets, the. And it was purely a vanity product. You know, they went to this couple and they said, what would you like to do? And they said, you know what we'd like to do? Here's what we'd like to do, but it's going to cost us some money. And they did it. And I love that. I think that's a great thing. But there are episodes where you go, Jeez, this could have been 30 minutes. It didn't need to be 45, right? Yes, I agree. And I also think that with Mrs. Maisel, it's a little bit like Seinfeld, where it's very geographic. So for me, as somebody who grew up in the New York metropolitan area, it resonates with me. And there's a lot of people across the country that certainly love Seinfeld, certainly love Mrs. May's all. But if if you're turned off by such a regional program like that, it's not going to sit with you. You know, with that show, I was constantly fact checking because he would bring out something that wasn't in that year. I know that wasn't in that year. And then I'd have to go back and try and find what year this was. And the MFA wasn't right. They did the fact checking, so props to them. And like I say, I love watching it, but I don't know that that's one that I'd say I'm putting it in a box and I'm going to pull it out five years from now and I'm going to watch it and I'm going to be just ripped. I told you earlier this during the COVID thing, I watched all of Mary Tyler Moore over again, and I loved every minute of that. It was it was like a warm hug from the past. And I was able to remember things about that era. And I laughed every every time I left. And I you know, people are big Golden Girls fans, too. And you see them. And what I look at that right away is and I say, God, that the screen format is so small and it's kind of fuzzy. And, you know, those are the things that tripped me up. And so I don't know that I could watch some of those shows, but if they did it like Lucy, Lucy is going to last forever. And it's because it was well-written, well-produced and well-performed. It doesn't matter when it was, but it's that stands the test of time. There's one other show that we did an episode about, you know, because we had it was like the big four that went off the air right around the same time. Barry That's another one, which it would get nominated every year. But I always felt I like Barry, I enjoyed Barry, but I always thought that it was maybe a little overhyped. I think it had a good in it, and they're all good the first year. The first year is great. We have a vision, but then they kind of veer. And I think with Barry, he got time off Bill Hader to kind of rethink things. And I think that rethinking maybe didn't do it any big favors. It's still well done. Yeah, but I don't yeah I don't know it once you know the kind of the ending. Yeah. I don't know that you want to watch through the other parts. Yeah. That you're a better call Saul fan right. Mhm. See that's another one I couldn't get into. I Breaking Bad was too big for me to want to worry about another character I really liked. Better Call Saul. I thought I just saw that last season I did not love it. I didn't love the ending. That's, you know they say are they going to reward them for their last year? Yeah, I think the answer is no. Yeah, I agree. You know, it's interesting with both Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul is I. I crushed through both series kind of in short periods of time. I didn't watch Breaking Bad when it came out. There was a covered show for me and I watched everything and I loved it. It was a good, good series. And then better call Saul. I didn't. I knew it was out. Obviously, when I was watching Breaking Bad, but I chose to kind of wait on that one too, until the last season was done. So late last year, I watched all of the first whatever, five seasons of Better Call Saul. And then the last season finally hit Netflix at the beginning of this year or middle of this year, whenever it was. And I slam through that one super quick. So I didn't it wasn't a show that you pulled me in or a series. It didn't pull me in for a decade because that's pretty much how long it took to get through both series. It's just I watched them within a two year period, more or less, but I felt like that one just kind of tailed off at the end and I would not have been happy if I invested six years of my life in that one, I guess is a good way to put it. You know, one of the greatest things about being a critic is that you often get to see all of it before anybody else does. Sure. So you don't have these outside influences and you also we did binging a lot sooner than anybody else did. And I think once we threw that out there to the public, the public want they want that. They want to be able to plow through a show in a weekend if they have to. Yeah. And I think that has affected the movie business because if you have your choice between seeing a show that you've really been waiting for or going to a marginal movie, you're going to take that show and sit at home. And let's face it, our home setups are probably just as good as a film theater, you know? I mean, you got the big screen, you got a comfy chair, you got food nearby, you can stop at to go to the bathroom. Does it get any better than that? It does not. And so I think that's the uphill battle that that the movie business faces is they've got to try and combat that. And how do they do that? And it's not by making the movies longer, you know, that I'm I'm on that. It's not that they want 3 hours of something. It's that maybe you've got to make that content so compelling that they have to go see it. There's one show that Season two came out this year. It recently aired. It came out in April. It's a show that I don't think it's really any buzz. I don't think it had any Emmy nominations, but it's one that I have kind of come to enjoy because I find it to be a little quirky and it's another one out at HBO. Somebody somewhere, Have you seen that one at all? Somebody, somewhere. Help me out. Who's in it? Bridget Everett, the comedian. It takes place in Kansas. She's a late 40, early, 50 ish single woman, somebody most unlikely star of a TV show. Right. Right. And it's an interesting program. Yeah. And it touches on a lot of topics that seem a little almost taboo because it's in Kansas, which is obviously a very conservative state. So it's kind of touches on just a lot of different things. But I also find it to be just a sweet show. You know, it's like I watch it and I think, oh, that was a very pleasant 30 minutes I just had. Yeah, that just shows us that they're opening the doors to other voices, which is, which is good because if you were a on network TV, you'd have to have some kind of a profile or you'd have to have some like I would assume if we didn't have all these other things, it would be tick hours. We could be bombarded by tick tock people on network television because they able to bring a crowd with them. Whereas with this, I don't know. Does she have a following? If she does, I'm sorry that I haven't paid attention. The only reason I even heard of her is because she appeared on an episode of Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee with Jerry Seinfeld. I had never heard of her before. I had never seen her standup act, which is a crazy act where she sings and it's like a burlesque show almost. And it's wild. You know, how she ever came to get into this HBO program? I have no idea. But it's it's done very well. And I think it's just it's a little bit of an under the radar program where it the episodes aren't very long. There's not it's like eight or ten for a season. It's at the bare minimum to qualify, but it's gotten some, you know, a decent following. The average tomatometer 100% from critics. Audience score 93%. So people like it. It's just not a lot of people are watching it, right? Yeah, You don't have the numbers attached to that is how many does that represent? Well, there you go. Back in the old days, somebody like Margaret Cho, who they loved and thought she was a great comedian and she had just something there that we have to put on television. And then they got her a show and they changed everything that made it about her. It was like they were trying to shoehorn her into Cinderella's slipper and it didn't work. And that's what I'm afraid they would try to do with people today. Thank God there are areas like HBO where they can find that talent, put their talent on. I think though too often they want to have something quickly. They want to have a success right out of the chute. They don't you know, you hear that a lot of times with people who are our musicians, that we had an opportunity to fail through two or three albums. And then, you know, maybe one would hit. But now with music, if you don't have a hit, they don't give you an album. You've got to get that one shot, you know, mega hit, and then you'll get maybe a chance for a second one. And if there's enough of them for an EP, then they'll do that. And then if you sell enough money, you know, if you got to sell enough copies and you make a lot of money, then you might get a real album now. And if you get enough, enough money, you're like Taylor Swift and you can do whatever you want. Yeah, you know, that's where that's where I almost think to an extent, Network TV is almost dead in a sense with programing because you can at least go on to you can go on to Netflix because they don't nobody releases any of their their data. It's you don't have Nielsen ratings in the same way. So a show if they're willing to finance it and their internal numbers show that there's some sort of audience and they're not losing money off of it, it's almost like they're willing to give you an opportunity. And maybe that is where someone like a Bridget Everett can do it, somebody somewhere, because it's on HBO and it's not on NBC or CBS or Fox, and they probably would have canceled the show after three episodes. It would be interesting to know how much they will give you to do a show. You know, is it you're getting like pennies and then you've got to try and make something out of that with pennies? Or do they throw a lot of money at you? And then if it's not good, you're out, right? All right. It's I yeah, it's a fascinating thank God we're not in that world. We're only observing from the outside. I think it's harder to, you know, Bo Burnham I don't know if that name rings a bell with you, but he did a great, great, great COVID era special where it was just in his house. It was just him in his house singing songs that he had written marvelous. It's like really something so creative and you know that they're not going to give him anything. They'll give him another special. That's it. But they're not going to say, Let's do the weekly Bo Burnham Show, because that's not going to happen. So it is very interesting, but I don't think this year I'm a bottom line is I don't think there's any big story to be told about the TV things that we are watching every I think that we haven't yet seen all of the the movie things, but it's pretty slim pickings at this point. And until we see what comes in November and December, the year hasn't been written, I would agree. All right, Bruce. Well, on that note, I think we'll wrap things up and we will be back again next week with another episode of Streamed & Screened.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

0:00 -- Intro. *Note: you can check out our analysis of Succession's first season in E98 of this podcast (published on May 22nd, 2023).1:43 -- Start of interview.4:03 -- Governance challenges to family-owned companies.5:50 -- On Kendall's car accident and legal implications. Issues of corporate wellness, mental issues and drug-use. *Story on Tyson Foods' CFO.10:55 -- Waystar's response to “bear hug” offer from Maysberry. “I saw their plan, but my father's was better.” On disclosure process and vetting of public statements.17:34-- Impact of explosion of Waystar rocket in Japan (after Roman rushed the launch).18:45-- On Shiv's prospects as CEO of Waystar.20:13 -- On the role of the board in the "bear hug," conflicts of interests, and lack of an independent committee of the board.21:25 -- The Pierce acquisition to block Sandy and Stewy. On the role of third-party advisors (investment banks) and the Jamie Laird character.27:46 -- On sovereign wealth funds looking to control the news through ATN. On the character of Mark Ravenhead.33:10 -- The Vaulter shutdown and question on unions.41:04 -- Revelation of cruise line issues (press report) lead to loss of business opportunities (Pierce, etc.) and loss of key employees (Rhea's departure). The accounting whistleblower. Rhea, worrying that she's agreed to be CEO of a “dumpster fire pirate death ship” says, “Either they did know, which is terrible, or they didn't know, which is an unconscionable lack of control.” (Caremark standard) 47:17 -- The Congressional hearing. How should CEOs and/or management prepare for congressional hearings? "This is not a court house, it's a stage." "Testifying in Congress is much more similar to being on a Sunday morning news show." "The clock is your friend here." "In circumstances like that, sometimes the best answers are yes, no, or I don't recall - as opposed to speechifying about something."54:35 --  The questionable decision of having a general counsel testify in Congress. On waivers of attorney-client privilege.1:00:26 --  The "blood sacrifice" offered by Waystar Royco after the Congressional hearing. Caremark standard and the fallacy of "what you don't know can't hurt you" (willful blindness). The NRPI ("No Real Person Involved") notations in shadow logs.1:09:26 --  Cultural and reputational issues and the way the show connects them to shareholder value. Culture of fear and bullying. Sexual harassment and improper behavior.Kate O'Leary is the Global Executive Litigation Counsel at General Electric Company.__ You can follow Evan on social media at:Twitter: @evanepsteinLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/epsteinevan/ Substack: https://evanepstein.substack.com/__Music/Soundtrack (found via Free Music Archive): Seeing The Future by Dexter Britain is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License

Listen to us as we discuss all seasons of Succession If you would like to give us feedback on how were doing follow us at: https://beacons.ai/senornerdpodcast https://www.instagram.com/senornerdpodcast/ Succession is an American satirical dark comedy-drama television series created by Jesse Armstrong that aired on HBO from June 3, 2018, to May 28, 2023, for four seasons and 39 episodes. The series centers on the Roy family, the owners of Waystar RoyCo, a global media and entertainment conglomerate based in New York City, who are fighting for control of the company amid uncertainty about the health of the family's patriarch, Logan Roy (Brian Cox). Among the cast are Jeremy Strong as Kendall, Kieran Culkin as Roman, and Sarah Snook as Siobhan ("Shiv"), Logan's children employed by the company. Matthew Macfadyen stars as Tom Wambsgans, Shiv's husband and Waystar executive; Nicholas Braun as Greg Hirsch, Logan's grandnephew also employed by the company; Alan Ruck as Connor, Logan's eldest child; and Hiam Abbass as Marcia Roy, Logan's third and current wife. Peter Friedman, Natalie Gold, and Rob Yang also star, while Dagmara Domińczyk, Arian Moayed, J. Smith-Cameron, Justine Lupe, David Rasche, Fisher Stevens, and Alexander Skarsgård featured in recurring roles before being promoted to the main cast.

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Tenho certeza que você viu Succession, assim como muitos de nós aqui na ACE Ventures. Mas a pergunta é: os deals que são negociados na série seriam possíveis na vida real? Hoje, nós sentamos para analisar essas transações e tirar alguns aprendizados que vocês, founders, podem aproveitar. Lembrando: nós gravamos esse episódio antes do lançamento do último episódio, então não sabemos o que aconteceu! Nesse episódio do Growthaholics, Pedro Waengertner conversa com Mike Ajnsztajn, co-founder da ACE Ventures, e Giovanna Paes, advogada da ACE Ventures. Vem com a gente! Everything you don't actually need to know about the economics of Succession ‘Succession': Matsson and GoJo's Dodgy Numbers, Explained Succession: venda da Waystar está próxima, mas valor faz sentido? Waystar Royco Shakeup: Unpacking the Game-Changing GoJo Takeover in HBO's Succession Everything ‘Succession' gets wrong about M&A deals Quer ver esse episódio em vídeo? Acesse nosso Youtube!Para ler esse conteúdo e muito mais, acesse nosso blog!Instagram: @aceventuresbrLinkedIn: ACE VenturesE-mail: podcast@goace.vcEste episódio foi editado por Denys Argyriou (@argyriou_)

Even in fiction, there are real business takeaways — So we jumped in TBOY-style to Succession's Waystar Royco (FYI no spoilers). The President and Speaker reached an agreement to raise the debt ceiling — short term crisis avoided, but long term damage done. And Las Vegas casinos just had their most profitable year for gambling ever thanks to one sneaky move: Tweaking Blackjack to create scarcity. Visit Framebridge.com to support the show $LVS $WYNN $CZR Want merch, a shoutout, or got TheBestFactYet? Go to: www.tboypod.com Follow The Best One Yet on Instagram, Twitter, and Tiktok: @tboypod And now watch us on Youtube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

J. Smith-Cameron has played Waystar-Royco's shrewd General Counsel Gerri Kellman for all of the show's four seasons. She joins us following Sunday's finale and takes your calls as part of our "Succession" Watch Party.

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Welcome back to Analyze Scripts, where a psychiatrist and a therapist analyze what Hollywood gets right and wrong about mental health. Today, we're analyzing the third season of "Succession" on HBOMax. In this episode, we continue exploring the evolution of the adult siblings with a focus on different manifestations of a "wounded narcissist" in Kendall and Roman. We also spend time exploring the theme of the Roman and Shiv being drawn to romantic partners who are psychologically similar to their parents. We unpack various betrayals that occured throughout the season, culminating in Tom showing his true colors. We hope you enjoy! Instagram TikTok YouTube Website [00:10] Dr. Katrina Furey: Hi, I'm Dr. Katrina Fury, a psychiatrist. [00:12] Portia Pendleton: And I'm Portia Pendleton, a licensed clinical social worker. [00:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: And this is Analyze Scripts, a podcast where two shrinks analyze the depiction of mental health in movies and TV shows. [00:23] Portia Pendleton: Our hope is that you learn some legit info about mental health while feeling like you're chatting with your girlfriend. [00:28] Dr. Katrina Furey: There is so much misinformation out there, and it drives us nuts. [00:31] Portia Pendleton: And if someday we pay off our student loans or land a sponsorship, like. [00:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: With a lay flat airline or a major beauty brand, even better. [00:39] Portia Pendleton: So sit back, relax, grab some popcorn. [00:42] Dr. Katrina Furey: And your DSM Five and enjoy. All right. Porsche, season three of succession. What a doozy. [01:02] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. [01:03] Dr. Katrina Furey: Wow. Wow. [01:05] Portia Pendleton: Watched it really fast. And then I and then I tried to kind of rewatch it again because there was so much good content and character development and character crumbling and character everything. [01:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: And some of the lines were so funny, but perfect. I think it was episode five where Logan has the UTI. I think that might be, like, my favorite episode of television. Ever. [01:28] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, ever. [01:29] Dr. Katrina Furey: It was so funny. Like, I'm going to watch it again after this. [01:33] Portia Pendleton: I need to I think you had sent me a text, and we're like, oh, my gosh, have you seen episode five yet? And I was like, no, I haven't, and just kind of, like, seeing all the different shenanigans take place. And even so funny as, like, yes, that he thinks that there's a cat underneath his seat, but then them having to keep running back and forth, giving Frank notes, he's like, stalling the shareholder, and they're just talking nonsense, and Greg's the one running back and forth with the notes. [02:01] Dr. Katrina Furey: So funny. [02:02] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, I know. [02:03] Dr. Katrina Furey: I want to watch it again because it's so ridiculous. I feel like that must have been a fun one to film. And I feel like they were owed that. They have a lot of intense scenes. It was nice to see this. And just as a plug, perfect depiction of how UTIs can affect someone's cognitive function. So I had no idea. [02:25] Portia Pendleton: So please share. [02:26] Dr. Katrina Furey: Why my gosh. So UTIs, urinary tract infections. As a psychiatrist, whenever you are evaluating, like, anyone, but especially an older person with rapid onset cognitive change, you check a UTI. Most of the time, it's honestly a UTI. It's some kind of infection. It really can affect them cognitively. I can't tell you how many times in training in the emergency room, we would get a consult for an 85 year old with, quote, unquote, new onset schizophrenia. Spoiler alert. That is not a thing. That is, like, less than 1% chance of someone getting schizophrenia for the first time at 85 years old. 99.99%. [03:04] Portia Pendleton: It's a UTI. So is it the age? [03:09] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, I mean, when you're older, your system is just more fragile, like, more vulnerable to things. Oftentimes when you're older, you're on a lot of medications for, like, blood pressure, cholesterol, diabetes, bladder issues, all these other things which all the medications can have side effects, they can interact, and your system is just more susceptible to an infection. And that's one of the ways it can present. So it's super important to keep that in mind if you have older family members and they start acting differently. I mean, it can also have things like paranoia or hallucinations. Like he displays the cat and all this stuff. I was just like, this is perfect. This is so perfect. And you just need to start some antibiotics. But I just thought that was so just what a funny detail. And I love that episode. [04:00] Portia Pendleton: And that woman with the long, dark, dark brown or black hair and bangs. [04:04] Dr. Katrina Furey: Who we see Logan, who's like her new secretary or something. [04:08] Portia Pendleton: She knows, right? She had she was also like, is she a nurse? Because she seemed so quick and on it with the medications and having them and knowing the side effects. I was like, what is her role? So maybe she has maybe that's a requirement, his assistance or maybe like medical training. [04:29] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, or maybe like, she's the only one who knows about his medical stuff. [04:33] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, she said he didn't want anyone else to know. [04:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. And again, because I think this show is such a fascinating depiction of a narcissist aging where it's so threatening to your sense of self to be weak or vulnerable or inferior. And again, it's like, yes, he feels that way because of his personality traits, but also there is truth in that, like, in his role as head of this huge company that's, like, having a lot of financial issues, sort of having a hard time keeping up with the times and with streaming and all this stuff. He can't hear weak or vulnerable. We saw that in season one when he tries to go give a speech, and now we're seeing it here where he wants to, again, give a speech, but he's got a UT. And they're like, oh, you can't do that. Literally, I just loved how even then, the siblings are all like, well, dad has to agree with this. And so then Shiv calls off the deal, and then they're like, oh, no, dad is not in his but they. [05:34] Portia Pendleton: Like, almost I was surprised at how long it took them to get there. [05:39] Dr. Katrina Furey: To figure out that he wasn't okay. [05:40] Portia Pendleton: It was like multiple things were happening. And I was like, hello. Hello. Who's going to pick it up? That he's acting very strangely. And Tom is the one who's like, I think there's something wrong with your dad. [05:52] Dr. Katrina Furey: Maybe that's because Tom is removed enough where he can tolerate again, because it probably hasn't been safe for them to question their dad or be like, hey, dad, are you okay? You know what I mean? That's not like a safe thing to do. Oh, my gosh. So, yeah, just a little plug UTIs. Can have significant cognitive effects, especially when you're older. Always get checked for UTI or make sure your family member is if they're older and have new onset cognitive changes. Like, we could save lives with this. PSA. [06:27] Portia Pendleton: That was news for me. [06:29] Dr. Katrina Furey: I was like, yes. Hooray hooray. This psychiatrist is so proud of that depiction. Anyway, getting away from urinary tract infections and back to season three. So quick plot recap. End of season two, I found myself, like, cheering from the balcony when Kendall did a total reverse and my jaw. [06:52] Portia Pendleton: Was on the floor, right? Yeah. [06:54] Dr. Katrina Furey: And you were like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. I really didn't see it coming. I thought he was going to take the fall. He was going to be the blood sacrifice, as Logan says. How sick was that, too? In season two, they were all trying to decide who should be sacrificed. [07:07] Portia Pendleton: I know, but at the end of. [07:08] Dr. Katrina Furey: The day, I was like, I know it's going to be Kendall. Why are we even pretending? What's this? [07:12] Portia Pendleton: I think he was waiting for Kendall. [07:13] Dr. Katrina Furey: To step up or something. That's a good point. That's interesting to think about, too, now that in this season, tom stepped up to say he would take the fall to jail. It's interesting. I was so proud. And then I was like, why am I so proud? [07:31] Portia Pendleton: This is all so and we both kind of think and agreed that it seemed like Logan, even though he was being royally screwed, he seemed proud of Kendall. [07:43] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. Because remember, Kendall was like, just be real with me, dad. You are never going to give me the company. Right? And he's like, you're not a killer. You could do everything you want, but you're not a killer. And again, it's like Kendall will never be good enough for his dad no matter what. So in a weird way, even though Kendall's saying he's trying to do good, he's not. I think he's trying to win his dad's approval by being like his dad. And in a way, I feel like Logan respects it, but can't tolerate it because there's no room for him. Right? [08:15] Portia Pendleton: Right. I think it has to be that way. It just fits the personality traits. We see Kendall then kind of doing more and more things in season three that just feel so different right. From season one. Kind of see his arc of turning just into seemingly more like grandiose delusional, detached from kind of a reality, in a way. [08:41] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. But I feel like that's probably who Kendall really is. I feel like in season one, it started off with him getting out of rehab. He was probably at his quote unquote best, like, trying really hard. [08:53] Portia Pendleton: He was clean during season. [08:54] Dr. Katrina Furey: He was clean. He was about to take the reins. He looked anxious a lot of the times, but I think he was doing the right thing. And now that hasn't gotten him anywhere. And in fact, his dad's like, you're never going to get the business because you're not a killer, right? So now he's like, fine, here you go. And I think he's sick of being this taking the fall for everything. [09:20] Portia Pendleton: And I think Kendall, if we think of him receiving treatment and being his best self, I don't think, as we have said before, it's safe for him to be his best self. So I think he's coping right now with substances because that's honestly what's safer. Unless he wants to totally estrange himself from his family, get out the shares, be bought out, take his money and go somewhere else and do whatever and do the work. Right? Then have the therapy, then kind of reestablish himself, then do the skills if he thinks he needs it, maybe some medications. But it's like, until that happens, if it ever does, which I doubt, I. [09:57] Dr. Katrina Furey: Think this is his best this is how he survived. Yeah. [10:01] Portia Pendleton: This is how he's like, okay, right. [10:03] Dr. Katrina Furey: And just what? Mixed messages from Logan. Right? Because it's like, okay, I go to rehab. I'm clean. I'm doing all the businessy stuff. I'm showing up on time. I'm responsible. You say you're going to give me the company, then you don't. Okay, that's confusing. Like, why not? What am I not doing? Oh, I'm not ruthless enough or vengeful enough or things like that. Okay, so now I'm going to do that and still not getting right. What is it, dad? What do you want from me? [10:31] Portia Pendleton: And then I accidentally kill someone. And then you give me a hug and you call me your son and you bring me in, and then you abuse me and use me. And it's like he's reached this kind of breaking point where he's just I was himself in the best ability that he can be under substance use. [10:48] Dr. Katrina Furey: I think he feels so low and so insecure and so hopeless. I was worried this whole season that he was going to kill himself. [10:55] Portia Pendleton: So we didn't talk about this, but. [10:57] Dr. Katrina Furey: In season, I think it was two. I think I know where you're going. [11:00] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. So he's up on the roof. There's a couple of scenes where he's on the roof and just looking over. And then I think it's the end of season. It's the end of one of the seasons, not three, where he finally goes back up there and there's this long right, clear wall put up, and it's like, who did that watching him? How did they know. [11:24] Dr. Katrina Furey: He'S thinking about it? I wonder, though, do we pick that up because we're therapists and stuff? Would the average person watching, seeing him look out, think like, I think you're thinking about suicide here. [11:38] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, I feel like some yeah, just because I mean, it seems intentional. Like, it seems like we're supposed to. [11:45] Dr. Katrina Furey: And then they show you with the plexiglass or whatever it is. When I used to work for Yale, I remember actually, I didn't know this till I worked there, that in college. Mental health balconies and stuff like that are like a hot topic because they pose such a serious suicide risk for people being able to jump off the roof or jump off of this balcony or that balcony that people go around and measure the height and put up those plexiglass things and lock the doors to the roof and all these things that I never knew, but which make a lot of sense. So I don't know. It was interesting. Yeah, I definitely thought of that. And then the whole season, I was just like, again, he has narcissistic personality disorder. Kendall. I mean, they all do to some degree, but definitely Kendall. He has substance use disorder. Those co occur very frequently. He probably has some anxiety, which often co occurs. He might have depression, which often co occurs with all this stuff. His risk for suicide is so high. [12:47] Portia Pendleton: Given all of that and all of the environmental triggers. Right. It doesn't seem like he sees his kids much. It seems like he is aware that there's a lot of people using him. He's totally estranged in a very dysfunctional way from his family, even though he. [13:02] Dr. Katrina Furey: Feels that would be, like, the healthiest thing. But he keeps getting ostracized, and it's like, with each season, it's more and more and more, and this season it's really intense, where Logan tells the secretary, block his number for good. [13:17] Portia Pendleton: The birthday card. [13:19] Dr. Katrina Furey: The birthday card where he's like, Take your shares and **** off. But then that was all a ruse. That was all manipulative, right? Because then finally, at their mom's wedding, kendall sits down with Logan and is like, okay, I want to take you up on this. I want to get bought out and leave. Right? And, like, you're saying, Portia. I was like, Why didn't he do this earlier? Just get out already. And then he won't let him. I know he won't. [13:46] Portia Pendleton: I want to keep you close. Or what if I want to keep you close? [13:50] Dr. Katrina Furey: It was, like, so chilling, that scene between them, and even with Logan making his grandson try the food because he thought Kendall maybe poisoned him, when really the kids thought that earlier in the season. With the donuts, it's just like that degree of mistrust and danger they grew up with that constantly. [14:16] Portia Pendleton: That's real. [14:17] Dr. Katrina Furey: That's real. [14:17] Portia Pendleton: Had a huge reaction to the donuts, then kind of Roman kind of joked about it. They kind of, like, laughed off. None of them ate that. [14:23] Dr. Katrina Furey: They were all ate them. They all knew. [14:25] Portia Pendleton: And then they felt uncomfortable, and then they left and dispersed. It was just such a gesture that had huge implications. [14:34] Dr. Katrina Furey: And Logan knows what he's doing. And again, I'm like, were they poisoned? We'll never know because no one ate them. But I wouldn't be surprised, would you? [14:43] Portia Pendleton: No, I wouldn't be surprised. [14:44] Dr. Katrina Furey: I'm sure Logan has poisoned someone somewhere. Along the way. Why not have kids? [14:49] Portia Pendleton: And even just something to like right. We're not talking about death, but we're talking about incapacitation. Whether that be having to be in the bathroom all day or like a date rape drug. Like you're just kind of out for a couple of hours. [15:05] Dr. Katrina Furey: Hypno or something. Right, exactly. Yeah. That's chilling. Just chilling. [15:13] Portia Pendleton: I thought Kendall kind of broke my heart. Or I felt so bad for him when he was at his birthday party. And Roman, I don't think meant to push him to the floor, but pushes him. I think Pet push him. Like, get goodbye done. And then Kendall falls in front of everyone and it just like where he had mentally, I was like, oh, my gosh. I just felt so sad for him. [15:40] Dr. Katrina Furey: I know. [15:41] Portia Pendleton: Like, he's lost, he's empty, he's surrounded by all of these people, and he feels like he's looking for his kids gift. [15:50] Dr. Katrina Furey: He didn't find it. I know. Yeah, I know. [15:53] Portia Pendleton: That was hard to watch. [15:54] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. Kendall is just, like, such a compelling character. Again. I just am. Like, I hope Jeremy strong isn't therapy. [16:01] Portia Pendleton: I know. [16:01] Dr. Katrina Furey: He's married to a psychiatrist. We learned he's the method actor who's always in character. So I'm just really concerned for him doing this for this long. But I mean, you just really see Kendall unravel and all of that going on that show with Zway and then having this huge 40th birthday party, going to the park and inviting all these big fancy people. It's all so sad to me because. [16:28] Portia Pendleton: He feels so, like, firing team after team after team lawyers. [16:33] Dr. Katrina Furey: I loved when that lawyer asked him, like, do you think you're smarter than me? Because he does. He thinks he's smarter than he's not. [16:40] Portia Pendleton: I thought his response was interesting. It was like a non response. But then he responds by firing her. [16:45] Dr. Katrina Furey: Exactly. [16:45] Portia Pendleton: So that is the response. So he does think he's so disrespectful. [16:48] Dr. Katrina Furey: When he was like, let's just try harder. Yeah, let's just try harder. And it's like, oh, my God, dude, you're the one who's not taking in any feedback. [16:58] Portia Pendleton: So let's talk about the pool. He was kind of laying on there. So when we saw that, I was like, okay, we're staying here for a while. It was a long scene of seeing him float. And I was like I was like. [17:10] Dr. Katrina Furey: It'S coming, it's coming. [17:12] Portia Pendleton: What's going to happen? So it seems like he was on. [17:14] Dr. Katrina Furey: Substances in his hands. He's at least drinking. He probably has been on substances, right? Like, the whole time. I think it was intentional. I don't think it was an accident. I think especially because he's been so ostracized. And then they get to their mother's wedding and she's like, oh, you can't come to these things because Logan's going to be there. [17:35] Portia Pendleton: And he's like, so he says your son can't come because of the ex husband who you hate? [17:42] Dr. Katrina Furey: And she's like, Yep. Because the ex husband, who I hate, can do something right. And, like, my new husband wants those optics. I mean, like, how much more can Kendall be, like, kicked in the ground? How much more? [17:58] Portia Pendleton: And I just couldn't think, too. It's like the gaslighting. You can tell, wanting to turn to this imaginary person, being like, do you hear you hearing this? [18:10] Dr. Katrina Furey: This is crazy. Right? [18:11] Portia Pendleton: And then, of course, this makes sense. It's 4 hours, Ken. It's not a big deal. [18:17] Dr. Katrina Furey: All the minimization and dismissal, that happens a lot with Kendall. It happens a lot with Shiv, a lot with her. But he's so hopeless. It made me so sad that his kids were right there. That was the part where I was like, I don't know. [18:34] Portia Pendleton: And Logan was, like, talking to the kids. He made some comment, like, I don't remember exactly, but he alluded to, like, you know, your dad's okay, right? It's fine. And I just thought that that was interesting. [18:53] Dr. Katrina Furey: Why? [18:55] Portia Pendleton: I feel like I couldn't tell the purpose. Are you saying that to them so that these kids don't become really screwed up because, again, you're related to them? Is there anything there? I feel like he has a little bit of sociopathic traits, but is there any normalcy of you're, this grandfather figure? They know their dad just, like, almost died. [19:23] Dr. Katrina Furey: Are you trying to come from Christ? [19:25] Portia Pendleton: And I feel like he's not a Joe Goldberg. He's horrible and narcissistic, but that's where I was like, what is the purpose here? And then he immediately is kind of making fun of his grandson for that book. [19:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: That's like but also, I can't remember the content of the book, but it seemed really on point with what had just happened with the dad. To me, there was a clear emotional connection. There was something about a parent leaving, but then coming back. I wish I and his sister was. [19:51] Portia Pendleton: Like, oh, he likes to read it sometimes, and it's like it's probably, like, comforting for him because he's so upset. [19:55] Dr. Katrina Furey: But instead, he's like, so and so. Give me a new book with action. Right? Yeah, give me an action book. This is what boys should read. So I don't know. And then we just remember that was the little boy. He'd, like, punched his face, and then he asked to try his food. Yes. So it's like, I don't god, you. [20:18] Portia Pendleton: Got to hope that they're getting some balance with rava. [20:23] Dr. Katrina Furey: I hope so, right? [20:25] Portia Pendleton: Oh, and then the guinea pig or the rabbit? [20:28] Dr. Katrina Furey: The rabbit again, because Kendall thinks he knows everything. He's like, Just feed the rabbit the bagel. Just feed the bagel. I think the rabbit, like, dies or gets really sick, and then the kids wrap the wrapping paper in a rabbit wrapping paper. So in that way, it's like, the kids are also, like, knocking him down. [20:43] Portia Pendleton: And you can see Kendall's again another moment. The whole birthday party was really so sad. But when he's digging through all the gifts and it's so important that he finds the kids gift, and I get that. I feel that he wanted to open he probably wanted to text them or see what they got him that makes him feel good. They got me a gift. [21:04] Dr. Katrina Furey: But it also highlights how disconnected he is from them that he doesn't even know. Right. [21:10] Portia Pendleton: I think he was surprised that maybe they got him something and then find it. I was like, I think she wants. [21:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: To find the gift. I think she said they made it for him, like, it was homemade. And Roman, a lot of times, is always talking about how, like, oh, Kendall can't find his kids again. Oh, where are the kids? And he is absent from their life. And then it's like, well, maybe that's what's best for them. I hate to say it, but maybe I'm hoping Rava's like, protecting them or shielding them somehow. She has to, because he can't do that for them. [21:44] Portia Pendleton: Right. [21:44] Dr. Katrina Furey: Like, he can't fully protect them from his dad. Yeah. Like, I just really feel for Kendall. And then near the end when he finally has that breakdown, which reminds us of the little breakdown he had in season two with Shiv where they don't get into the details, but there was, like, a moment of genuine connection between them where you're like, oh, I didn't know you guys were capable. [22:13] Portia Pendleton: And Shiv seems so caught off guard at first, and it seemed like it took her a lot to be like, oh, no, this is real. I'm not being manipulated. This isn't fake. Someone's not trying to get one over on me. And then she hugs him, and they're in the office, I believe, and he's just, like, crying. And I think she doesn't know what to do with that. [22:35] Dr. Katrina Furey: From season two. [22:36] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. And then she hugs him, and he's like, can you just take care of me? And she's like, okay. And I think she's really caught off guard and confused. [22:42] Dr. Katrina Furey: He doesn't even know what that means. Yeah, I think he was crying to her about feeling like realizing all I'm worth is what I'm worth. That's it. And that's so true, unfortunately, and so sad. And around then, I was like, oh, no. I'm really worried about his safety. Really worried. [23:01] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. So I thought it was a nice moment. I was really rooting for the three of them. I thought that all of their responses were, like, spot on. I thought the acting like they were awkward because they don't know how to do emotions, trying to joke it off that he's not getting better. You know what I mean? So then she kind of puts his arm her hand on his shoulder. Roman kind of crouches down, and they're, like, in it. [23:32] Dr. Katrina Furey: And they're like they're getting closer to that physically, their proximity. [23:35] Portia Pendleton: And then she gets also during this time of that, they're about to lose everything. So then she's getting a call. She has to walk away. They're like, Kendall, we need to we got to go. But I thought it was, like, a nice moment for the three of them. It seemed like they trauma bonded, and then they kind of go off to try to stop what's happening. But I want to rewatch that moment. I don't know why. I just thought it was nice. And I do too. [24:04] Dr. Katrina Furey: I, like, want to, like, reanalyze it, you know, because I think you're right, I think. And again, it's like, kudos to the creators and the writers and the actors for getting that body language, the staging of how far away are the siblings? And they come close, and then they get pulled away, and it's so good. You are really depicting this so well. I'm just so impressed Kendall has, which. [24:30] Portia Pendleton: Again, I thought just was so great, them walking away like Shiv. And shiv is still the most put together. Roman's hair, because it always kind of is a little disheveled. And then Kendall, we see him with all the dried, like, mud, right, like, on his pants, and he's just, like, kind of shuffling. And again, he just looks broken. He looks like a broken one. [24:49] Dr. Katrina Furey: He does. He needs to be admitted to an inpatient psychiatric unit, like, yesterday. I'm just so worried for him. But of course, he gets taken to a hospital and cleared and goes home that day. Right. Because it's probably like, oh, I just fell asleep. I had too many mimosas or lemon cellos or whatever they were drinking. But I'm like, yeah, being intoxicated contributed, but I also think it tracks. [25:17] Portia Pendleton: Oh, yeah, he's at risk. [25:19] Dr. Katrina Furey: Super. [25:19] Portia Pendleton: And we saw that all the way through the beginning, the glancing down the building. [25:25] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. I'd be surprised if that was the first time this happened for him. [25:30] Portia Pendleton: So, Roman, in season three, we had two responses. [25:34] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, I want to hear about yours. [25:36] Portia Pendleton: So I liked him the least until I think this is the most, I haven't liked him in a season. So I still thought the moments with Jerry were, like, funny, interesting, ha ha, light. And then I really liked him making the decision to get in the car, to go to kind of to challenge Logan in the last episode. But I felt like his behavior in this season was really disgusting, and I know it has been before. It just really bothered me. I liked him the least overall. I will say, after watching the final episode, I like him again. I don't know that helped, but during all of the inner episodes, I really, really was upset with him, and I. [26:23] Dr. Katrina Furey: Had the opposite reaction, where I really liked him a lot better than Kendall. I don't know, I guess I felt like he was finally getting a chance. I think Roman probably has the greatest amount of genuine love for Logan. Of all the siblings, I don't think that's healthy. I think they have a very sadomasochistic bond with Logan, hurting him and Roman taking it as like a way of feeling close to him. But I feel like finally with Kendall so ostracized, it was like Roman finally got a chance to kind of shine. And I guess that started at the end of season two when he went overseas. And then there was that weird terrorist breakdown or hold down or whatever, and. [27:16] Portia Pendleton: Carl was like, I just want you to know I'm having a panic attack. [27:19] Dr. Katrina Furey: He's like, you would never be able to tell, but I am. When that happened, I was like, did Logan orchestrate this? Is he trying to keep Roman out of here? Is he trying to kill Roman? Is he trying to create some things to get press about, like, oh, Roman Roy almost dies and to take the heat off. But I don't know, I guess I felt like again, the businessy words go above my head a lot of the times. But it seemed like Logan was actually taking Roman's opinions into consideration, and that Roman, it turns out, has good instincts about things, like when he would go to try to make deals, like even that one overseas in season two. And they comes back and he's like, it's not going to happen. I feel like he has a good read on people. So then I started thinking like, is he the surprise smart one? Is he the one who all along should have been listened to and hasn't been? So I think that was the part where I was like and then the way he can talk to the president, he can talk to the fancy people and sort of move things along. I don't know, I guess I was like, good for you, Roman. Like the underdog coming through. But then he is like awful in so many other ways. [28:31] Portia Pendleton: So the one thing about, I think borderline that I just was kind of recalling when I was thinking about Roman in season three is that your symptoms become more severe when you're activated by uncomfortable emotions or pressure or something that's intense. And I think him being now like the golden child with his dad is so much pressure, so much pressure. He doesn't want to give this up. He's also just like around, it seems like his dad a lot. And so I think that his Bpd traits are stronger where he is idolizing his dad so much. I think he always has. I think it's like we're seeing it so obviously here the devaluation of others, including Shiv, which I feel like they have this, again, kind of gross, but banter. That feels normal for them. [29:23] Dr. Katrina Furey: It's like a gross, like old boys club, but it's like their daughter and sister. So it's really gross, right? [29:29] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, it feels like for me, like Roman more so which again, I don't know why I'm saying this, because then I'm thinking back to season. One, and I disagree. But he crosses the line more. I felt like in season three with doing things and saying things that I was more disgusted with. [29:44] Dr. Katrina Furey: Do you think maybe it was because in other seasons he'd done that with random people and now it's like his siblings sure. Like the way he treated Kendall at the birthday party was so gross. And shiv was shiv the whole time. [29:59] Portia Pendleton: So that's when it came out, I think that the company was having Kendall's kids followed and talked to and Shiv was like, what? That's disgusting. And Roman was like, we knew. What do you mean? Yeah, that's what happens, right? There was this weird kind of rift or separation going on, that morality. [30:19] Dr. Katrina Furey: And again, we were talking about how in some ways it seemed like Kendall's becoming more and more like Logan, even like when they're wearing the exact same navy hat and these little details. But he's becoming like him with being so ruthless, like trying to make that deal with that investor, even when his dad's like, having a medical emergency. That's what his dad would do and wants him to do. But from the outside, that's so gross. Roman is also becoming like Logan in that way of just this really warped sense of morality, of any sense at all. And I think Shiv is really put off by it, but then she doesn't have a great moral compass either. So that's where it's all really interesting to me. What things each of the siblings are like, that's too far, but then the other one's like, no, that's too far. And you're like, it's been too far along, guys. [31:14] Portia Pendleton: And we see. Just like I thought it was like a funny cultural kind of poking at when they are at the which I'm assuming because Shiv is a liberal and she went to the dark side, quote unquote. So they're at the Republican kind of small convention where all the rich people pick the nominees and Shiv is having a really hard time with one of the people that they're interested in or that Roman really likes because she's like, he's horrible, he's despicable, he's doing all these things and she's like drawing the line there. [31:45] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, she doesn't want to get in the photo. [31:47] Portia Pendleton: Right. [31:47] Dr. Katrina Furey: And then Logan says to her, are you part of this family or not? And that is like such a veiled threat. Right. Because then you're going to be like. [31:55] Portia Pendleton: Kendall, right, who's not here. Exactly. [31:59] Dr. Katrina Furey: But then when they're trying to pick the nominee and the guy they were all thinking about, remember, they're like, he licks his lips a lot. Yeah, just these little things. And it's like, of course that's what they're worried about. Not the guy they end up going with who's, like, supports Nazis and it's really terrible. They're worried about the guy who licks his lips too much. But of course they are. They're narcissists, like, of course. [32:22] Portia Pendleton: And it's really so clear that they just want someone who can do what they want to because that guy initially right? He's, like, call room service, right, for the coke. And then Roman tips off the other guy to go bring him a Coke. And he does. And then they're like, oh, he's in. And it's just like really? [32:43] Dr. Katrina Furey: Exactly. But that's what I mean with Roman, where he did tip off the guy. So that's where I feel like he was moving and shaken in a way that I was impressed by. And then I was like, Whoa, gross. Why am I impressed? Right? Like I was like, what's? [33:02] Portia Pendleton: Kind of attractive? [33:03] Dr. Katrina Furey: And I was like, whoa. Whoa. Why am I maybe it felt like. [33:08] Portia Pendleton: He'S having more control or he's, like, finally getting out from under he thinks he's getting out from under the thumb, but he's still under it. [33:17] Dr. Katrina Furey: Or, like, even more, I think. So. [33:23] Portia Pendleton: It'S not because his Bpd treats were coming out more that I didn't like him in this episode. In this episode. I think maybe it's just how he treated Shiv, to be quite honest. Maybe that's what just really bothered me, because it was so I feel like, again, her moral compass is skewed. However, she has the hardest time kind of dealing with politics, some sexual assault stuff. She knows that she's being kind of used as, like, the face where she's a female, so she should go here again, like, morally gray. But then it's like, Kendall's kids. She's like, this is a line. Why are we crying? [34:00] Dr. Katrina Furey: The family. Yeah, she'll go talk to the whistleblower and convince her not to testify. But the family there's something that seems like it should be off limits, whereas Roman that's not even off limits. Right. I'm so eager to hear your thoughts about the evolution of Roman and Jerry's relationship, if we want to call it that. [34:23] Portia Pendleton: I was, like, happy for it as it was building. And part of it just because I thought it was, like, comedic relief, totally on the surface, like, not seeing the why or why this is problematic. But I think it was just, like, a funny side story. She almost seemed in this season to be more manipulative. [34:49] Dr. Katrina Furey: Jerry yeah. [34:50] Portia Pendleton: So at first I thought it was kind of like, I don't know, maybe she's maybe she's into this a little interesting and likes a young guy and keeps her jumping. [35:00] Dr. Katrina Furey: And I kept wondering, she has to have no wife because she's always floating around with them. But then it turns out she's got daughters. [35:06] Portia Pendleton: I was like, and this boyfriend and boyfriend. [35:10] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. I felt like Roman really did want to marry her, be in a relationship, and she's just like, Whoa, Roman, no. [35:19] Portia Pendleton: Well, and we see him do this with a couple. With one other person or two, I think two other females that he is kind of like, in this relationship with in season one and two. He's like, well, **** it. Let's just get married. They do this and they're like, we've never had sex. No. Or, that's really way too fast. And again with Bpd, it's like, okay, idolizing them. He's impulsive. I think he gets his sense of self through others. I don't think he has a strong sense of self. I think so badly. [35:52] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. [35:52] Portia Pendleton: Security and attachment in a relationship, and he doesn't really get that. [35:58] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right, I think. Exactly. He wants it so badly, but he's also terrified of it. That's why I think legitimate intimacy is unsafe or feels unsafe to him. But he's like, let's just get married, and then I'll have you. You can't leave me. And yet the women he's saying that to aren't the type who just say, okay, yeah, right. They're the type who are like, well, this isn't actually cutting it for me. So in that way, he is attracting women who will then reject him. [36:24] Portia Pendleton: Which is interesting because thinking of all the women out there who he may come across, who wouldn't just be like, yeah, I'll marry you 100%. [36:33] Dr. Katrina Furey: That's what I mean. But again, that's like, where the creators and writers and everyone involved in this show got it so right. Because he's so rejected by his mother and now he's being rejected by Jerry. He's been rejected by all these other people. He's always rejected by his dad. That's what he knows. He could find any number of girl who would like a willa. Exactly. [36:57] Portia Pendleton: To be honest. [36:58] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right, exactly. [36:59] Portia Pendleton: But we kind of talked about how Jerry, for him, is maybe safe because she's unattainable, the age difference, the position in the company. So maybe he feels like she's safe. They poke fun, which we talked about last episode at how he wants to have sex with his mother, but it's. [37:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: Frequently it's, like, really legit and really obvious and out there. And he was the only one who was, like, really upset about the mom deciding to get married again and being really concerned about the prenup and everything. Right. So I think that's just really interesting. [37:33] Portia Pendleton: So how did you react when you saw that he sent Logan the **** pic? [37:37] Dr. Katrina Furey: Okay. [37:41] Portia Pendleton: We saw it. [37:46] Dr. Katrina Furey: I'm going to say I loved the way all that played out, like, comedically. I don't think that's appropriate, but I was like, how did that mix up happen? Did he have Freudian? Was it like right, so someone texted him, well done, Roman. I thought it was Jerry texting him that. [38:06] Portia Pendleton: So maybe he so badly wanted it to be Logan that that's why he responded. I mean, but then it got so. [38:11] Dr. Katrina Furey: Someone says, well done, Logan. We think it's coming from Jerry. [38:16] Portia Pendleton: Well done, Roman. [38:17] Dr. Katrina Furey: Sorry. Well done, Roman. Write the text. We think it's coming from Jerry. So then he texts back, and he's doing it right there in the boardroom, like, under the table, right there. Not going to the bath. Like, right there. There's still people milling around right and then all of a sudden it shows up on Logan's phone. So I was like, did he get the number mixed up or did he. [38:35] Portia Pendleton: Just see him sliding down in his chair? He makes eye contact with his dad and kind of like, shrugs. [38:42] Dr. Katrina Furey: And I was like he's like stripped away. And then when his dad calls him in and he's like, can you imagine just how humiliating and what are you, a sicko? And it's like, yeah, I don't know. He's like, it's just a **** pick, dad people do, like people do **** picks, whatever. And then when Shiv uses that opportunity to corner Jerry right. I was just like, oh, my God, this is all just but Jerry didn't seem phased. [39:10] Portia Pendleton: No, because I don't think anything phases Jerry. I think that she is like a secret not secret. She's something. [39:22] Dr. Katrina Furey: She's a sociopath or something with just like no feelings, I feel. [39:30] Portia Pendleton: Yes, because I don't know how else or has developed a coping skill to be in here, like you said, for decades. That's not typical to survive. And she doesn't seem like Frank. Where Frank has put himself in positions or challenged Logan, it seems like that's why he was fired and brought on and brought back and then he joins Team Kendall. Jerry is never in that position. She's always the right hand. She always knows what to say. I feel like even in a sense, I've never seen Logan be horrible to her. He's yelled at her and carry it over here or whatever, telling her to f off. But they seem like the most professional they're able to have this professional relationship where I don't see him abuse her in the way he abuses Carl and Frank and everyone else. [40:21] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right, I agree with you. And I think I wonder if she is like his female equivalent in a way, because she's the general counsel, so she's like on their attorney, basically. So she knows everything. Right. It's not that she didn't know about Cruz. She didn't know about this. She knows everything. She has known everything for decades. [40:41] Portia Pendleton: I don't think Logan have had sex. I don't get a roman about it. It seems like. [40:49] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. Because she's like his age. [40:52] Portia Pendleton: Exactly. That's the appropriate man. [40:54] Dr. Katrina Furey: Exactly. That's what I mean. That's why he hasn't right. He's always going for the younger one, so that's why he doesn't see her as that kind of object. And I bet she hasn't really disagreed with him or she has, like, stuck around. Right. Like, I think what's interesting to me about Logan and thinking about the kids and somewhere in there some character said this and I was like, that is exactly right. Where it's like Logan pits them all against each other to see who's going to stick around, I think, because he's so afraid of trust and loyalty and all that stuff. And then at the very end, when the kids are in the car, they're going I was like, yes. [41:37] Portia Pendleton: You'Re uniting. [41:38] Dr. Katrina Furey: You're going to take it over. You're going to throw him out. Like, why haven't you done this earlier, Roman? I was like, I think he's really going to be on board this time. Although I'm a little nervous the dad will get to him and then the dad doesn't get to him. I was, like, really proud of Roman, I think, for being able to with. [41:54] Portia Pendleton: And you can see that happening in Roman's head. [41:56] Dr. Katrina Furey: Like, you might see the kind of mental battle oh, my God, so well. And then when they realize that somehow the dad has gone to their mom to get the shares, so now he doesn't need them, and their plan has been foiled. And then Roman goes to Jerry, and on his with her on his knees, right. Again, perfection. On his knees is like, please help us. Help us. And she says something like, what's in it for me? I exploded. [42:29] Portia Pendleton: If Roman was listening, which I think he was, but if he was listening and actually had a view of a therapist, which he doesn't, she has said that to him throughout this entire time. Right. She said, every decision you make, you have to ask yourself, what's in it for me? She's, like, coaching him on this the entire time. She's talked about, we need boundaries for this. I feel like almost, in a way, it's like Roman didn't see any of that. He didn't want to. He couldn't idealizing her. Yeah. And so then she had the response that I don't think should have been surprising. [43:06] Dr. Katrina Furey: But that's what they all do, right? [43:08] Portia Pendleton: They keep coming back, they keep getting kicked. They go to their mom for support. It's like, over and over and over again. They think, these people who should right? She's like a mentor. [43:17] Dr. Katrina Furey: They should, but they don't. Like, yes, you should be able to trust your parents or the people in the company. Again. I bet they've known Jerry since they were kids. [43:30] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. Forget Jerry carl. [43:39] Dr. Katrina Furey: Frank. When they when the adult kid I keep calling them kids, but when the sibling yeah. Walked in and saw all the flutter and chaos of, like, the dad, like, making the deal to get bought out. What betrayal. Yeah. What betrayal? Oh, my God. That really broke my heart. And then we see Tom, and I was like, I knew it, I knew it. I called him from the start, and interestingly, you didn't pick that up right away. [44:11] Portia Pendleton: No, I didn't even pick it up on the episode. So we talked about this a little bit before we started recording, and I had literally no idea that Tom had anything to do with that. So I don't know what that says. [44:22] Dr. Katrina Furey: But I think you just really want to see the good in people. And I don't trust anyone, maybe. I don't know. It was like, in this whole season, right? It felt like the Roy family wanted to maintain their company and buy other companies to grow bigger and fix their debt situation, maybe get some private investments. Pick the next president who is like anti tech for a while, but he. [44:51] Portia Pendleton: Seems so dumb, like, Logan, what are you doing? [44:54] Dr. Katrina Furey: Well, because he's like in the Dark. [44:56] Portia Pendleton: Age, not on board. I know. [44:57] Dr. Katrina Furey: Until he realizes he's got to get on board. And then that Adrian Brody character, that shareholder who they fly out to, points it out. [45:10] Portia Pendleton: So that's two people so him. And then the guy who is in. [45:14] Dr. Katrina Furey: Scarsgard yeah, he was in some vampire. [45:17] Portia Pendleton: Show where everyone was freaking out because you saw him nude years ago. So then he also points out Logan's Fragility and just like where the company needs to grow and stuff like that. And I thought that that was really interesting just for Logan to hear two and the second guy, and I think more so, really successful. He knows that they're next. And I think he kind of comes to the conclusion that Waystar has to do something and they can't just stick to the status quo. [45:51] Dr. Katrina Furey: But it's sad because his kids have been telling him that, but I know in all different ways he can't hear it from them, I think, because, again, I think that would shatter his sense of self. But hearing it from these other white dudes who are successful on their own and have a stake or something, at least the Adrian Brody character had a stake in the company. This other guy didn't. Right. They wanted to maybe buy his company, then they were going to be co owners and then, oh, actually, we're going to sell somehow he could hear that, remember? And then when he asked Roman to leave, I was like, oh, no. But then Roman doesn't tell anyone. [46:28] Portia Pendleton: I know. And Roman still acts, which again, it doesn't help him to do these things. [46:34] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. [46:34] Portia Pendleton: But he needs to have Logan's support and he needs to believe that he is Logan's right hand man. So he's not going to do what would honestly help him and benefit. [46:46] Dr. Katrina Furey: They should have gotten plan in motion and called their mom then, right? They should have done all that. But I don't think he's capable. Right. In season one, he says at the wedding, like, I have borderline personality disorder or something, he's definitely demonstrating the traits. I don't think he can hold on to both of those things at the same time about his dad. He can't. [47:06] Portia Pendleton: Right. It's either dad, right, is idealized, or he devalued and it shifts back and forth and it really just shifts at the last second when he's standing in the room. Yes, he makes the decision to get in the van with them. Yes, he makes the decision to go to the meeting, but he has to decide in front of his dad right. To align himself with his siblings. [47:23] Dr. Katrina Furey: Wow. [47:25] Portia Pendleton: Logan asks Roman to have Kendall leave and Roman's like, no, right. [47:30] Dr. Katrina Furey: And that's like, finally you guys are united. Like, I wish they would have united earlier, but then we wouldn't get this great TV. [47:36] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. [47:37] Dr. Katrina Furey: So I think we want to wrap up by talking about Shiv. And it's interesting, right? Because I feel like in all of our episodes so far about succession, we talk about her a little bit, but not a lot. And that's like right. In parallel with her role in this family. [47:51] Portia Pendleton: Right. [47:51] Dr. Katrina Furey: She's just also kind of forgotten, like, Connor not quite as much, but she's a girl and yeah. I don't know, I just am so curious. Like, what if she'd been a boy? [48:02] Portia Pendleton: She plays the role of the girl in the family with all the boys in the patriarchy really well, most of. [48:11] Dr. Katrina Furey: The time, but she is in a lot more skirts. [48:14] Portia Pendleton: I think she purposely separates herself right. To do politics, because that way she is respected, she is in power, she is making decisions. And then, of course, she wants to be the CEO or the chairman of Wastar. But then when that seems like it's not happening, you just see her feel so much kind of thrown away more and more and more and more. And I think she can't understand why Roman, who again, has no experience doing anything, it seems like that's why Jerry was like, you need to do the management program. And Shiv has a career. Again, I see her as attending school. I see her as getting really good grades. I see her as just, like, finesse. I might have to come in and finesse. [48:59] Dr. Katrina Furey: And I'm so shocked she doesn't have an eating disorder. Are you shocked? [49:07] Portia Pendleton: I feel like she probably binges and purges in secret, and it's just like, not a big deal. It's just like what everybody does. [49:16] Dr. Katrina Furey: I know, but I'm shocked. We haven't talked about yet. Maybe we'll get there, but I feel like she would, given the environment and everything we're talking about, but of course, right. [49:25] Portia Pendleton: Like, such a female. And again, just because she is a female in the family, and I think it's just I don't know how they could have written her character better. [49:34] Dr. Katrina Furey: I know. [49:35] Portia Pendleton: So we see her and Tom's relationship really interesting. I thought maybe you could speak to what you think it's like for Tom being in a relationship with I don't know if you would consider this accurate. Like a bigger narcissist. This is what I think. I think Tom has some stronger attachment abilities. [50:01] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes. [50:02] Portia Pendleton: And Shiv does not. Whether or not he's narcissistic doesn't matter in the fact that he's still trying to attach to this person. Even if there's an ulterior motive, he still wants a connection. Like, he loves her. I think he wants a relationship, and I don't think she literally can have one. [50:18] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah. [50:18] Portia Pendleton: I think he does a really good job coming out. [50:22] Dr. Katrina Furey: I think, with Tom, I always felt like there's something going on here and even in this season, some people would ask, why are you a Shiv? He kept getting on Greg's case, wanting to ask this girl out, that girl out. And he almost, like, coaching Greg, like, you got to go up. And that's kind of like what he did, right? So I still am dying to know how they met. I wonder if it was, like, in school or if it was, like, online dating, which I could also see, honestly. [50:51] Portia Pendleton: Like, on what's it called? Raya. [50:53] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, that riah, whatever it is. But I think he does a really good job portraying himself as, like, I'm a good guy from the Midwest and, like, a humble guy and stuff like that, but I just don't think he is. From the beginning, when he saw Logan being incapacitated in the hospital and thinking, okay, now is the time to propose, I just think he wants to attach to Shiv because she is Shiv Roy. I don't think he would if she didn't have that name and that potential for power. He wants to be the head of it. And in what world does he have that right? All of these the three siblings are so grossly entitled in an experience that it's laughable. But in what world does Tom from Nowhere have a right and think that because he married Shiv now he's owed? Anytime she's making moves, he's like, well, where do I stand? Where do I stand? Where do I stand? And I think season two, I sort of softened on him a bit because I felt like, well, maybe he does really love her, and now she wants this open marriage, and he didn't want that. He's saying he loves her. I think he can say all the right things. I don't think he means that. [52:03] Portia Pendleton: You think he can get her hurt? Because that's what I'm picking up on. I guess it's like, I feel sorry for him, or I feel more empathy for him when I feel like Shiv has hurt him. [52:13] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, you see it in his eyes, like, when they were having sex or going that way, and they're talking dirty, and she says really cutting things, like, I don't love you, but that's why you love me, like, those sorts of things. And then the next day he says that it hurts him. I don't know yet. I think we need to watch season four and see how it unfolds, because I think part of me thinks he's hurt, but the other part of me thinks he's manipulating her to get what he wants. So I don't know yet. But then at least the way I interpreted the very end was all the siblings were shocked. Like, how did he get to mom? He knew we were coming. Like, how did he know? How did he know? Roman didn't tell anyone. Kendall didn't tell anyone. Shiv told Tom because she thought she could trust him. And then all of a sudden, here comes Tom. [53:02] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. And we see. So I remember now that you say that, like, then Tom meeting with Greg, right. And like, yes, tom saying these things. And so your interpretation is that Greg then called Logan. [53:14] Dr. Katrina Furey: Logan. So in the moment before we saw Tom at the end, I thought Tom was telling Greg about the siblings uniting and wanting him to come on that side, like, go with the siblings. And then Greg was like, can you tell me what this is about? And he's like, no. And I thought it was that. But now I think Tom told Greg to tip off Logan so then he could still be sort of distant from it and clean. But I think that's how Logan figured it out. I don't know if you remember, but when Shiv sees Tom walking in, logan pats his arm like, Good job. [53:49] Portia Pendleton: Which he would never do. [53:51] Dr. Katrina Furey: He would never do. Except when Tom said he would go to jail. Then he said, good job. You know what I mean? [53:58] Portia Pendleton: And then when he called him son but he was having udi. [54:00] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes. [54:01] Portia Pendleton: And then that's when Tom was like something. [54:05] Dr. Katrina Furey: That's when something was like, I think he's ill, but in that way, I think what a fascinating depiction of Shiv basically marrying her dad and Roman, like. [54:15] Portia Pendleton: Being attracted to his mom and Shiv marrying her dad, then ******** her. [54:22] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes. And when Tom comes up to Shiv and you see her, like, shudder, I got chills. Just the way that Sarah Snook, the actress, portrayed it. I got chills. [54:33] Portia Pendleton: I have to watch that last scene again. I feel like I didn't pick up on that. [54:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: It was so intense. And then the discussion between Shiv and her mom oh, my God. [54:43] Portia Pendleton: That I think it was such helpful back story gives you just such a good look at the relationship, even for all of them, because it alludes to the fact that the mom left them for money or for the shares or for something like it was a business. They were a business transaction. [54:59] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes, exactly. They were objects even to the mom. And Shiv was like, Mom, I was ten. [55:04] Portia Pendleton: Right? [55:05] Dr. Katrina Furey: I was ten. And she's trying to say, like, oh, I had a really hard time watching that scene. But again, expertly written, someone on that cast must unfortunately have a mother like. [55:16] Portia Pendleton: That to write it. [55:17] Dr. Katrina Furey: That perfectly right. Whoever you are, like, I'm sorry, and I hope you have your own therapy. [55:24] Portia Pendleton: Yeah, I thought it was so sad. And also interesting how Shiv has been very firm on no kids. And then after talking with her mom, it's like, now she's considering having children. [55:36] Dr. Katrina Furey: But only, like, freeze the Empress. [55:38] Portia Pendleton: Tom seems very into it, which I don't see as him wanting kids. I think he wants, like, ties to Forever. [55:47] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, I totally agree. And he was even trying to impregnate her when he was about to go to prison. That's what I mean is I think he's a snake. [55:54] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. [55:54] Dr. Katrina Furey: And I think it's starting to come out. And I don't think he's genuine. I don't think he actually wants to be with her or have her children and have a family. I think he wants the money and the power and the heirs. [56:07] Portia Pendleton: Which is so sad for Shiv. [56:10] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes. [56:10] Portia Pendleton: Because she thought because I think she thought that she had the power. [56:14] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes. [56:15] Portia Pendleton: Like tricking her all time. [56:18] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yeah, I know. [56:20] Portia Pendleton: But I also don't think that anyone else could be with her. Right. Someone else would have to have that ulterior motive in order to cope with. [56:28] Dr. Katrina Furey: How she treats exactly. [56:29] Portia Pendleton: Like she's not treating you well. Which I'm not making an excuse for. But then most years, Tom has stayed. [56:37] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. Like, why did he stay after the wedding night? It's because he wants the power, the money, all of it. Right. That's what he wants. And even, like, impregnating her so she can't cheat on him or leave him or whatever. Even if she does leave him, if he went to prison, he'd still be tied. He'd get child support or spousals or whatever. Oh, my gosh. It's chilling. [57:00] Portia Pendleton: I think it's a good depiction of narcissism and Bpd of showing both sides of the person. [57:07] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. [57:08] Portia Pendleton: Because people who are narcissistic, people who have, of course, borderline we know this more of but can still get hurt. Still sad. [57:15] Dr. Katrina Furey: Very deeply. Very deeply. [57:17] Portia Pendleton: I think we're used to just like narcissistic. Oh, they're a narcissist. Like, they're whole, they're jerks. They don't seem to have feelings. Like no, they're not sociopathic or psychopathic, where it's like there's no feelings. No, these are people who have been deeply wounded and continue to hurt others and continue to get hurt. We see them get wounded over and over and over again. [57:39] Dr. Katrina Furey: So that's why it's like this, back. [57:40] Portia Pendleton: And forth, like right. We hate them, we feel sorry for them. We hate them. [57:43] Dr. Katrina Furey: We feel sorry. Exactly. I totally agree. And just such an expert portrayal in that. And the way they sort of give you more info about their childhoods, about their upbringing along the way, slowly, that helps you really see how they got there. Right. And that's always one of the most fascinating things when I'm watching shows. Like, this is like, how did you get to be that kind of person? And then as we wrap up, as we always do, we forget Connor. He's forgotten. But I just had to acknowledge that scene where he's like, I'm the first born son. I'm the oldest son. It's me. It's not you. It's like he's carried that rage with. [58:21] Portia Pendleton: Him his whole life, and he can't so, interestingly enough, it's like Roman and Shiv in that moment, have the whatever. Whether you want to call it awareness, whether you want to call it intellectualism. But they are there because of Kendall, right. And they want him to get help with the suicide. And it's. Like, Connor cannot stay there. He makes it about himself. And people still don't say helpful things, but Connor has this huge reaction when they're trying to be there for Kendall because he almost killed himself, right. [58:58] Dr. Katrina Furey: And trying to say, we love you. We are worried for you. Please get them up. But you're right. Connor can't stay there. And Connor is probably most threatened by Kendall because Kendall is the secondborn son, who then becomes, like, the first in line. [59:12] Portia Pendleton: And we see Kendall's style shift right throughout season one to three. He's wearing a T shirt with kind of a necklace with a big emblem on it. We see him shave his head. We see the sunglasses, cool sunglasses. And I think I want to hop back onto Connor because Connor and he proposes to Willa. Then he also gets really mad at them. Right. Because no one said congratulations, and I hear that. Right. But first of all, you're paying her. And no one knew that she said yes because she didn't say yes. [59:44] Dr. Katrina Furey: And then he was like, everyone's looking willow. Can you at least pretend, like, through gritted teeth? It's just all growth. [59:52] Portia Pendleton: And then the audacity that he has to believe that he can be the president, he's like, oh, well, we have 1%. You know what 1% is? A lot of people when we look at the US. [01:00:06] Dr. Katrina Furey: That's a good chunk of people. But then when he is like, they're going to dig up stuff on, you willa remember. And basically using that to bully her into marrying him. [01:00:19] Portia Pendleton: But there's something to the child. [01:00:22] Dr. Katrina Furey: Exactly. [01:00:23] Portia Pendleton: She can leave at any time. [01:00:25] Dr. Katrina Furey: Exactly. Just like Tom, just like Jerry, just like all of them, but they stay. So it is just this, like, moth to the flame kind of situation. [01:00:33] Portia Pendleton: Yeah. [01:00:34] Dr. Katrina Furey: Oh, boy. Man, this show is amazing. It's really good. Really intense. Again, I hope they have therapists on set to cope with playing these characters. I'd be really worried if any of them are just sometimes they're like it's kind of actually me. So I'm just like being myself in this character. Like, I'd be very concerned about that. [01:00:55] Portia Pendleton: I keep seeing Brian *** do some commercials now. [01:00:59] Dr. Katrina Furey: Right. [01:00:59] Portia Pendleton: I think it's like it's funny, like. [01:01:01] Dr. Katrina Furey: Alcohol commercial or something. I'm like that's spot on. Yeah. [01:01:05] Portia Pendleton: But I really like what's his name? Culkin. [01:01:11] Dr. Katrina Furey: Kieran Colton. [01:01:12] Portia Pendleton: I think he's, like, my favorite actor and character in the show as of season three. [01:01:21] Dr. Katrina Furey: Yes. Again, I hate him. I love him. [01:01:23] Portia Pendleton: I hate him. I love him. And let's think about Bpd, right? [01:01:26] Dr. Katrina Furey: That's how people feel, 100%. But also thinking about Kieran Culkin personally was always in the shadow of Macaulay Culkin. So that's just fascinating. Like, is any of what he's bringing to the role tied to his personal experience? Like, unclear, but fascinating. [01:01:43] Portia Pendleton: Fascinating. [01:01:44] Dr. Katrina Furey:

Think you love Gerri from Succession? You've got to see this! J. Smith-Cameron has become a household name thanks to her stellar performance in all 4 seasons of Succession. But before Waystar and the Roys, J. was a firm favourite on and off Broadway. In this special bonus episode of Hear Me out, recorded days before the season finale of Succession airs, J. talks to Lucy about her favourite speech from Sean O'Casey's classic ‘Juno and the Paycock'. And yes, of course they also delve into the end of - as Lucy puts it - “a perfect piece of television.” Is there room for a sequel (Succession the Movie)?? Have the cast all said goodbye? And was it really as wonderful as we all hope?Hear Me Out is hosted by Lucy Eaton, a theatre producer and West End & screen actress best known for her role as Lucy in hit comedy ‘Staged'. Other episodes of Hear Me Out include Toby Stephens, Richard Eyre, Sanjeev Bhaskar and Joanna Vanderham.Follow us on TikTok, Instagram and Twitter at @PodHearMeOut.** Join the family by becoming a Hear Me Out Patreon! www.patreon.com/podhearmeout **Now in the Top 10 theatre podcasts on Feedspot: https://blog.feedspot.com/theatre_podcasts/A Lucy Eaton Productions podcast. Get bonus content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On this week's episode of Lever Time: David Sirota sits down with writer and executive producer Frank Rich to discuss the series finale of HBO's Succession. As the award-winning series comes to an end this Sunday, David and Frank take a look at Succession's role in popular culture over the last five years, particularly its satire of the media industrial-complex and the American political system. Frank explains how the show offers a larger commentary on power and influence but above all, tells a story about a broken family. David also asks whether it's plausible for an “intellectual fascist” like the character Jeryd Mencken to succeed in the Republican primary system. A transcript of this episode is available here.Links: Frank Rich Bids Farewell to Succession (Vanity Fair 2023)BONUS: Next Monday's bonus episode of Lever Time Premium, exclusively for The Lever's supporting subscribers, will include David's interview with political theorist Adolph Reed Jr. about his new book No Politics But Class Politics. To get access to Lever Time Premium, click here.If you'd like access to Lever Time Premium, which includes extended interviews and bonus content, head over to LeverNews.com to become a supporting subscriber.If you'd like to leave a tip for The Lever, click the following link. It helps us do this kind of independent journalism. levernews.com/tipjar

Zoe Winters is an OBIE award-winning actor known to theater audiences for her roles in off-Broadway shows like "Heroes of the Fourth Turning" and "White Noise." But TV audiences will recognize her as Kerry, the "Succession" character who first appeared in the second season as Logan Roy's assistant and rose to the position of close advisor and romantic partner. Winters joins us ahead of Sunday's finale as part of our Watch Party series.  If you're a "Succession" fan, tune into All Of It again next Tuesday at 1:30 when we'll discuss the series' final episode and take your calls live with actor J. Smith-Cameron, who plays Waystar's General Counsel Gerri Kellman.

Do you think Roman is going to walk away from Waystar? Welcome to our latest discussion video, where we'll be discussing and reacting to Succession season 4 episode 9, "Church and State." Let us know in the comments what you thought of the episode. Don't forget to like, share, and subscribe to our channel for more reaction videos and film reviews. Thanks for watching! Follow us on our social platforms: Redox Cinema: https://www.instagram.com/redoxcinema/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/17i6FYkNqyWSELvkHXk8kj?si=7HQ7UAraS4ua2m6T9Xt80Q Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/redox-cinema-podcast/id1585716528 Davi: https://www.instagram.com/davi_v26/ Abe: https://www.instagram.com/abecmedeiros/ Charlie: https://www.instagram.com/charliemeds/ --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/redoxcinema/message

Devin and Mark reflect (at length!) on the incredible four-season run of Succession in anticipation of the HBO show's final two episodes. Why do we care so much about characters who are hellbent on ruining the world? What distinguishes this show from others on similar subject matter? How has the show approached wrapping up its story earlier than even some members of the cast expected? And why did Cousin Greg betray us so? (Part two will look back on the series as a whole after the final episode airs. The penultimate episode, "Church and State," aired the night after they recorded.)

Warning, this podcast episode contains strong language as well as major spoilers for the ninth episode of the final season of Succession. The Evening Standard's Elizabeth Gregory, Hamish MacBain and Martin Robinson are here to review the penultimate episode of Succession. It was one hell of a send off for Logan Roy. The show's best characters returned for the epic high-pressure funeral. Giving us tears, drama and clear frontrunners for Waystar's next CEO. With just one more instalment left to go from TV's most complicated and powerful family, the crown is within reach… but who will be the ultimate victor and succeed? Succession is available to watch in the UK on Sky Atlantic and NOW. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

SUCCESSION Season 4 from Writer/Creator JESSE ARMSTRONG is back with Episode 4 "Honeymoon States" directed by LORENE SCAFARIA (Hustlers). Everyone is jockeying to be the interim CEO if Waystar before the Gojo deal with the kids pitted against the older Waystar execs when a piece of paper changes everything. We also get the return of Marcia, the destruction of Tom, the barnacle antics of Greg, the embarrassment of Kerry, and Connor and Willa moving in. This one was a masterclass in political maneuvering, intrigue and drama!The Outlaw John Rocha and fellow Geek Buddy Shannon McClung break down and discuss their thoughts on this episode of SUCCESSION.The series stars BRIAN COX, JEREMY STRONG, SARAH SNOOK, KIERAN CULKIN, MATTHEW MACFADYEN, ALAN RUCK, JUSTINE LUPE, and NICHOLAS BRAUN.____________________________________________________________________________________Chapters:0:00 Intro and Overall Thoughts5:24 Kendall, Shiv, and Roman Lobby for Control and Was Kendall Underlined?20:54 The Return of Marcia28:12 The Old Guard Wants to Pick Their Interim CEO35:04 Tom's Fate, Marcia's Conservative Moves, and OskärFollow John Rocha: https://twitter.com/TheRochaSays​​​​​Follow Shannon McClung: https://twitter.com/Shannon_McClung

SUCCESSION Season 4 from Writer/Creator JESSE ARMSTRONG is back with Episode 5 "Kill List" directed by ANDRIJ PAREKH whose directed 5 episodes of the series. The deal for Gojo is in its final stages and the whole Waystar team is summoned to Norway to negotiate final terms with Matsson. BUT this does not go as planned with Kendall and Roman looking to tank the deal, Matsson trying to emasculate them, Shiv gathering information, and Tom and Greg doing their Laurel and Hardy shenanigans all over the place.The Outlaw John Rocha and fellow Geek Buddy Shannon McClung break down and discuss their thoughts on this episode of SUCCESSION.The series stars BRIAN COX, JEREMY STRONG, SARAH SNOOK, KIERAN CULKIN, MATTHEW MACFADYEN, ALAN RUCK, and ALEXANDER SKARAGÅRD.____________________________________________________________________________________Chapters:0:00 Intro and Overall Thoughts on S5 Episode 58:12 Kendall and Roman In Charge, Off to Norway, The Plane Ride16:44 Negotiating with Matsson, Hugo's Buffet Order, Shiv and Tom's Exchange24:58 Matsson Confides in Shiv, Roman Goes God Mode on Matsson, Final Offer35:25 Conner and Willa vs Marcia over Logan's Burial37:50 Overall Thoughts and Quick Predictions for Last 5 EpisodesFollow John Rocha: https://twitter.com/TheRochaSays​​​​​Follow Shannon McClung: https://twitter.com/Shannon_McClung

SUCCESSION Season 4 from Writer/Creator JESSE ARMSTRONG is back with Episode 6 "Living+" directed by LORENE SCAFARIA (Hustlers). Kendall, Roman and Shiv are maneuvering themselves into position for Waystar's Investors Day and all hell is breaking loose with Kendall wanting to drive the price of the stock up, Roman firing powerful women left and right, and Shiv possibly working with Matsson and changing her relationship status with Tom! Another great episode only on HBOMax!The Outlaw John Rocha and fellow Geek Buddy Shannon McClung break down and discuss their thoughts on this episode of SUCCESSION.The series stars BRIAN COX, JEREMY STRONG, SARAH SNOOK, KIERAN CULKIN, MATTHEW MACFADYEN, ALAN RUCK, JUSTINE LUPE, and NICHOLAS BRAUN.____________________________________________________________________________________Chapters:0:00 Intro and Overall Thoughts for Succession Season 4 Episode 65:06 Kendall's Storyline - Working with Roman, the Presentation, Beach Swim21:20 Roman Storyline- Lying to Shiv, Firing Joy and Gerri, Accepting #233:43 Shiv Storyline- Working with Matsson, Finding Equality with TomFollow John Rocha: https://twitter.com/TheRochaSays​​​​​Follow Shannon McClung: https://twitter.com/Shannon_McClung

Lonita K. Baker serves as President of the National Bar Association and as the Corporate Counsel for Waystar, a technology platform that simplifies healthcare payments throughout the revenue cycle. She is an experienced attorney with proficiency in drafting, interpreting laws and regulations, negotiating case settlements, and presenting cases through all stages of litigation. In the past, Lonita has worked as an Adjunct Professor of Law at the University of Louisville, an attorney at Aguiar Injury Lawyers, and as the Chief of Communications at the National Bar Association, among many other positions. She received her bachelor's, master's, and Doctor of Law at the University of Louisville, including an MBA in business administration. In this episode… Presenting a strong brand as a leader is paramount. For people to follow you, they need to be able to trust and respect you. A personal brand goes beyond perception and informs how you operate. Working on this one aspect of your career can make all the difference. Lonita K. Baker is intimately aware of this connection. Her incredible career has spanned several sectors, leading to her current position as President of the National Bar Association. She has reached her influential role by focusing on her brand and serving others. So how can you apply some of her insights to your career? In this episode of Branding Room Only, Paula Edgar takes the time to interview Lonita K. Baker, Corporate Counsel at Waystar, to discuss leadership, personal branding, and being yourself. They touch on her work with the National Bar Association, her dedication to justice, breaking preconceptions, and advocating for your value.Discover how to transform your women's affinity group into a dynamic force that aligns with your organization's mission and empowers women to thrive in leadership roles. Don't miss this opportunity to reshape the future of women's leadership within your organization.February 13 - 12 to 1 pm ETRegister for Is Your Women's Group Winning? at https://www.paulaedgar.com/events/

Felix Salmon, Emily Peck and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Ed Lee of the New York Times for a spoilery recap of episode six of the final season of HBO's Succession. They talk about Waystar's investors meeting, Roman's attempts to fire some people, and Tom and Shiv's new game.  If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and an additional segment of our show every week. You'll also be supporting the work we do here on Slate Money. Sign up now at slate.com/moneyplus to help support our work. Podcast production by Patrick Fort. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Felix Salmon, Emily Peck and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Ed Lee of the New York Times for a spoilery recap of episode six of the final season of HBO's Succession. They talk about Waystar's investors meeting, Roman's attempts to fire some people, and Tom and Shiv's new game.  If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and an additional segment of our show every week. You'll also be supporting the work we do here on Slate Money. Sign up now at slate.com/moneyplus to help support our work. Podcast production by Patrick Fort. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Felix Salmon, Emily Peck and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Ed Lee of the New York Times for a spoilery recap of episode six of the final season of HBO's Succession. They talk about Waystar's investors meeting, Roman's attempts to fire some people, and Tom and Shiv's new game.  If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and an additional segment of our show every week. You'll also be supporting the work we do here on Slate Money. Sign up now at slate.com/moneyplus to help support our work. Podcast production by Patrick Fort. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Felix Salmon, Emily Peck and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Ed Lee of the New York Times for a spoilery recap of episode six of the final season of HBO's Succession. They talk about Waystar's investors meeting, Roman's attempts to fire some people, and Tom and Shiv's new game.  If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and an additional segment of our show every week. You'll also be supporting the work we do here on Slate Money. Sign up now at slate.com/moneyplus to help support our work. Podcast production by Patrick Fort. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Felix Salmon, Emily Peck and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Ed Lee of the New York Times for a spoilery recap of episode six of the final season of HBO's Succession. They talk about Waystar's investors meeting, Roman's attempts to fire some people, and Tom and Shiv's new game.  If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and an additional segment of our show every week. You'll also be supporting the work we do here on Slate Money. Sign up now at slate.com/moneyplus to help support our work. Podcast production by Patrick Fort. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Felix Salmon, Emily Peck and Elizabeth Spiers are joined by Ed Lee of the New York Times for a spoilery recap of episode six of the final season of HBO's Succession. They talk about Waystar's investors meeting, Roman's attempts to fire some people, and Tom and Shiv's new game.  If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get an ad-free experience across the network and an additional segment of our show every week. You'll also be supporting the work we do here on Slate Money. Sign up now at slate.com/moneyplus to help support our work. Podcast production by Patrick Fort. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After the Waystar team heads to Norway, Shiv, Kendall, and Roman consider whether to fight for Logan's crown jewel. #Succession #SuccessionHBO Join the Watchers as we review season four, episode five entitled "Kill List" of HBOMax's series, Succession. Succession (2018) is a drama television series starring Brian Cox, Jeremy Strong, Sarah Snook, Nicholas Braun, Kieran Culkin, Matthew Macfadyen, Alan Ruck and J. Smith-Cameron with Alexander Skarsgard. Subscribe, rate and review! Follow The Watchers in the Basement on social media! Use #WatchersBasement to comment about the show! facebook.com/watchersbasement twitter.com/WatchBasement instagram.com/watchersbasement anchor.fm/watchersbasement

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As the Waystar team discusses a pivotal recommendation to the board, Roman, Kendall, and Shiv navigate a misstep with Matsson. #Succession #SuccessionHBO Join the Watchers as we review season four, episode four entitled "Honeymoon States" of HBOMax's series, Succession. Succession (2018) is a drama television series starring Brian Cox, Jeremy Strong, Sarah Snook, Nicholas Braun, Kieran Culkin, Matthew Macfadyen, Alan Ruck and J. Smith-Cameron. Subscribe, rate and review! Follow The Watchers in the Basement on social media! Use #WatchersBasement to comment about the show! facebook.com/watchersbasement twitter.com/WatchBasement instagram.com/watchersbasement anchor.fm/watchersbasement

Scrump and Drew talk about CM Punk coming back to AEW, the WWE Draft, Succession, Coachella, pinatas and more! Special thanks to Kenny Omega for the outro.   Patreon Merchandise   Sponsors: Manscaped Use promo code: PWTCAST to get 20% off AND Free shipping   Social Media: Twitter Instagram 

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NBA playoffs preview with Rob Mahoney breaking down the Lakers' win over the Timberwolves and their upcoming matchup vs. the Grizzlies. Ben Solak on his "100 percent accurate NFL mock draft." And Van Lathan on the Spencer Dinwiddie–Kyle Kuzma twitter beef and Prop Culture odds on Waystar Royco's next CEO. Host: Tate Frazier Guests: Rob Mahoney, Ben Solak, and Van Lathan Producers: Danny Corrales, Conor Nevins, and Tucker Tashjian Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

"After a tense board meeting to discuss acquisition of Matsson's GoJo, Roman shares his suspicions about their mother's new beau with Shiv. As a luxe family wedding gets underway in Italy, Gerri draws a line in the sand with Roman, the Waystar team grows increasingly concerned about Matsson's rogue tweets, and Shiv and Caroline have a heart-to-heart, of sorts." karsten runquist - @runquistkarsten christian borkey - @bustedbizbureau instagram - @succoffpod

"Kendall and the Waystar team find themselves working together at the annual shareholders' meeting, where Logan's health takes a turn." karsten runquist - @runquistkarsten christian borkey - @bustedbizbureau instagram - @succoffpod

To pass time in what is the most dead week of the baseball calendar, Bobby asks Alex to name as many people playing in the Super Bowl as possible (spoiler alert: it doesn't go well). Then, they're joined by “Meddling Adults” and “The Newest Olympian” host Mike Schubert to discuss the emergence of Derek Jeter in the public eye, Aaron Judge returning to the Yankees, and whether or not Derek Jeter and Tom Brady are soulmates. Finally, they answer a handful of listener questions about “Succession,” American trophy culture, and more. Links: Join the Tipping Pitches Patreon Tipping Pitches merchandise Songs featured in this episode: Pavement — “Summer “Babe • Sleater-Kinney — “Dig Me Out” • Booker T & the M.G.'s — “Green Onions”

Ursula Burns was CEO of Xerox from 2009 to 2016, the first among black women to be a CEO of a Fortune 500 company, and the first woman to succeed another as head of a Fortune 500 company. Most pertinent to todays conversation is her board roles. Ms. Burns sat on the Boards of Directors for more than 15 companies, including Boston Scientific, the University of Rochester, the MIT Corporation, American Express, Exxon Mobile, Uber, Waystar and more. During this conversation, which was held at AfroTech Executive Brooklyn, Ms. Burns talks with Heather Hiles, managing partner at Black Ops Ventures, and founder at Pathbrite about how corporate boards work, how to get one one, and determining if its the right fit for you in the first place. Follow Will Lucas on Instagram at @willlucas Learn more at AfroTech.com https://instagram.com/afro.tech Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Where was Arian Moayed when he wasn't plotting to take over Waystar while portraying Stewy Hosseini on SUCCESSION? On this episode of the CULTURE POP PODCAST the writer/producer/director of the Topic thriller, THE ACCIDENTAL WOLF, talks to Mase & Sue about the inspiration for the series. Plus his stint on INVENTING ANNA opposite the great Julia Garner, and his trip to Quatar for the World Cup!