M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy

Send us a textIn the Season 2 FINALE Mini Series Episode, Eileen + Amy ask 4 questions to each other, the public (reading their responses) and past guests (sharing audio clips they sent in) from best and worst audition stories to cross-training to euphoric moments within the dance process to what they want to tell their bodies. The conversation emphasizes the importance of shared experiences and serves as a celebration of the journey and the lessons learned along the way (both within the industry and while reflecting on Season 2).Resources / Mentions:BackstageWill Rogers FolliesLagree FitnessWalking for Good Health5 Surprising Benefits of WalkingGyrokinesis / GyrotonicsFunctional Range Conditioning / MobilityCrow (or Crane) PoseWim Hof (Breathwork) MethodAlexis BlakeBallet HispanicoKolb's 4 Stages of LearningBill T Jones / Arnie Zane CompanyQuestion Answer Order:AuditionsHannah SeidenLisa D. LongJordan EagleErin KeiCross-trainingHannah SeidenLisa D. LongAngela JoyJordan EagleErin KeiDance EuphoriaHannah SeidenLisa D. LongBody TalkHannah SeidenLisa D. LongAngela JoyOutroHannah SeidenSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a textGuests: Eileen Kielty & Amy KubatMovement Artists / Alchemists / Podcast HostsIn this interview episode, Eileen and Amy ask each other 2 questions each; engaging in a deep conversation about self-advocacy, personal growth, and the patterns they recognize in their dance and movement. They share personal stories of advocating for themselves in challenging situations, the importance of emotional awareness, and how their experiences shape their artistic expression. The discussion also touches on the significance of recognizing movement patterns and the relationship between emotions and physicality in dance. They explore the intricate relationship between movement, emotions, and self-expression in dance; discussing the importance of allowing the body to express itself without judgment, the role of emotions in choreography, and the necessity of understanding and feedback in the creative process. This episode emphasizes the significance of staying present with one's internal patterns and the impact of external perceptions on self-expression culminating in a reflection on the need for understanding and validation in artistic endeavors, highlighting the profound connection between movement and emotional truth.This episode comes with an activation warning; please take care of your body.Eileen (she/her) is a queer multi-disciplinary artist, teacher & performer as well as a clairsentient intuitive movement coach. She has degrees in both dance & psychology as well as extensive training in somatic integration, embodiment & intimacy practices & is passionate about consent-driven spaces with an emphasis on social justice. Eileen has held countless positions within the arts, fitness, wellness & educational space....Amy (she/her) is a movement artist based out of California. She has received her AA, BA, and MFA in Dance as well as certifications in Acrobatic Arts, Function Range Conditioning and is working toward her certification in Bodymind Dancing. Amy has followed her heart and instincts over her 20 year career into a vast and wide ranging assortment of dance techniques and jobs...For Eileen + Amy's full bios, click HERE.Mentions / Follow:Season 1 Episode 10: Amy's Interview - "Because knowledge truly is power."Season 1 Episode 11: Eileen's Interview - "Because authenticity restores trust in the body."Scroll down to follow / learn more.Support the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a textIn this Mini Series episode, Eileen and Amy explore the contrasting dance cultures of New York and Los Angeles, discussing the pressures dancers face when choosing between the two coasts. They delve into the dynamics of the dance industry, the impact of representation, and the challenges of auditions in LA through Amy's experiences. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding one's own path in the dance world, the sunk cost fallacy, and the evolving opportunities available to dancers. In this conversation, Eileen and Amy discuss the complexities of the dance industry, particularly focusing on the differences between working in LA and New York. They highlight the lucrative opportunities available, the harsh realities dancers face, and the scarcity mindset prevalent in the industry. The discussion also touches on the importance of community, the challenges of making choices in a saturated market, and the dangers faced by performers during events like the Thanksgiving Day Parade. Resources / Mentions:Episode 22 SlideshowAriana DeBose 75th Tony Awards Opening NumberAGVABody TrafficLADPSummation DanceCalArtsHeidi Duckler DanceDiavoloJulia's EpisodePilot Season is the entertainment industry's prime time for launching new shows. It's when networks and streaming services are searching for fresh faces and new talent to bring their latest projects to life.Kristin Chenoweth is the Original “Glinda” in WickedSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a textGuest: Angela JoyMusic EnthusiastIn this interview episode, Eileen and Amy speak with Angela as she shares her experiences in the arts, the impact of her upbringing, and the significance of music and comedy in her life. The discussion delves into the challenges of the audition process, the importance of resilience, and the sacred nature of creative expression. In this conversation, they discuss the complexities of navigating the dance industry, focusing on the balance between improvisation and structure, the importance of recognition and support in auditions, and the struggle for authenticity in a competitive environment. Angela emphasizes the need for dancers to embrace their unique voices while also addressing the emotional labor involved in auditions; touching on the joy of collaboration and the power of specificity in storytelling through dance, culminating in a reflection on the intersection of faith and creativity. The profound connection between creativity, spirituality, and the human experience is explored as well as Angela's journey of self-discovery amidst the constraints of a conservative upbringing and the challenges of the dance industry. Themes of body image, church trauma, and the importance of inclusivity in performance art are covered as well as the need for a shift in the narrative surrounding dance, advocacy for a celebration of passion over physical appearance and a more inclusive approach to casting and storytelling in the arts. Angela (she/her) loves music, the language of movement, and drawing faces on her kneecaps. Soli Deo Gloria.Follow / Resources / Mentions:IG: @joybecause Website: https://www.angela-joy.com/MTV's “Say It In Song” was the name of the flash mob show.Wendy SeybMichael MindlinPost Modern Jukebox: “The Thong Song”Gaga“Images & Idols” Book“Wired for Music” BookRita Moreno - “Anita” in West Side Story discusses brownfaceLauren AndersonSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a textIn this Mini Series episode, Eileen and Amy explore the nuanced differences between practice, rehearsal, and performance within the creative process, through the lens of dance and movement artistry. They emphasize the importance of personal investment in practice, the collaborative nature of rehearsal, and the execution of artistry in performance. The discussion highlights the need for intentionality in each phase to foster growth and connection with the audience. They go on to explore the often overlooked contributions of ensemble dancers, the evolving dynamics of dance training, and the impact of social media on dance careers; emphasizing the need for a clear distinction between practice, rehearsal, and performance, and advocating for valuing the artistic process and self-worth in the dance industry. This episode highlights the challenges dancers face in a rapidly changing environment and the importance of recognizing their artistry and contributions within and without it.Resources / Mentions:Episode 20 SlideshowInstagram reel that inspired this episode.@bunmisimpleCyd CharisseCharli D'AmelioS2E8 Professional Paths Mini Series: What part does value play in how dancers see themselves?Support the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a textGuest: Caileigh ScottPerformer / Storyteller / Movement ArtistIn this week's interview episode, Eileen and Amy talk with Caileigh Scott and explore the journey of reconnecting with dance after illness, the multifaceted identity of movement artists, and the importance of sensitivity in performance. They discuss the integration of various artistic expressions, the role of vulnerability in creativity, and the significance of feedback in the arts. The conversation highlights the everyday inspirations that move artists and the need for understanding and empathy in the creative process. They also dive into their journeys as dancers, focusing on the challenges and triumphs of navigating their height, body image, and the impact of feedback in dance. Caileigh shares personal experiences related to her breast cancer diagnosis and treatment and how it has shaped her relationship with her body and movement. The dialogue explores themes of self-acceptance, the pressure of societal expectations, and the importance of taking up space in the dance world; emphasizing the need for validation and the empowerment that comes from embracing one's unique movement style. The mind-body connection in healing and the necessity of being an ally to one's body is discussed and what redefining success in the dance industry, advocating for inclusivity, and creating welcoming spaces for all body types in dance looks like. Caileigh (she/her) is a storyteller and movement artist whose creative practices include acting, writing, comedy, and dance. She is also a social impact producer committed to elevating the voices of women and nonbinary folks.Activation Warning: Sensitive topics discussed, please take care of your body.Follow / Resources / Mentions:IG: @caileighscottWebsite: Project SelfKim Hale“Fancy” by Reba McEntire“Rising Strong” by Brené BrownBeth NicelySutton FosterOnco-Ballet Foundation - FREE classes for cancer survivorsBreast Cancer ResourcesSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a textPART 2: In this conversation, Eileen and Amy explore the intricate relationship between fascia, emotions, and physical sensations. They discuss how fascia serves as a support system for the body, its role in chronic pain that often leads to acute injury, and how emotional trauma can manifest physically. The episode also emphasizes the importance of understanding the body's signals and the need for somatic practices to heal and re-pattern the mind-body connection.This is a Two Part Episode.Part 1: Episode 16 on 10.23.24Part 2: Episode 18 on 11.6.24Resources / Mentions:Episode 16 & 18 SlideshowSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a textGuest: Nora SchellActor / Singer / SongwriterIn this interview episode, we speak with Nora on navigating the complexities of the arts industry discussing their experiences with mental health, body positivity, and the importance of community support. The conversation delves into the challenges of being a performer, the role of advocacy in the arts, and the impact of negative feedback on self-esteem. Nora emphasizes the need for change within the industry and the importance of creating safe spaces for artists. They share the impact of their medical challenges on their career and the need for support and solidarity amongst their colleagues. Experiences with toxic education in the performing arts and the challenges of advocating for oneself in a high-pressure environment are touched on as well as the importance of kindness and growth in the industry, the privilege of being an educator and the responsibility that comes with it. Nora (they/them) graduated from The University of Michigan with a BFA in Musical Theatre and a minor in Gender, Race and Nation. They received Drama Desk, Drama League and Clive Barnes Award nominations for their Off-Broadway debut in SPAMILTON. Nora made their Broadway debut in JAGGED LITTLE PILL. They were most recently seen Off-Broadway playing Bustopher Jones in CATS: THE JELLICLE BALL. Nora will be performing all original music at the Perelman Center's Lobby Stage on November 2nd. Nora continues to cultivate a career focused on the intersection of performing and social justice. Love to Gregg Baker Management and their family.Follow / Resources / Mentions:IG: @noraschellmusicNora's Statement I PCOS I NAMI I Spamilton I Cats: “The Jellicle Ball” I Bipolar 2 Disorder I Borderline Personality Disorder I Drama Desk Awards I Drama League Awards I Clive Barnes Foundation I Bryan PerriSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a textThis conversation delves into the complexities of injury prevention within the dance industry. The hosts discuss the high prevalence of injuries, the impact of collective trauma, and the importance of understanding both physical and emotional aspects of injury. They emphasize the need for a holistic approach to injury prevention, including awareness of muscle engagement, the role of touch in learning, and the significance of mindfulness in movement practices. The discussion also highlights the differences between chronic and acute injuries and the necessity of adapting teaching methods to individual body patterns. In this conversation, Eileen and Amy touch on the intricate relationship between body mechanics, self-perception, and the importance of proper training in dance; emphasizing the need for dancers to understand their unique body patterns, the significance of warm-ups, hydration, and breath awareness, and the role of mobility and joint training in preventing injuries. This episode encourages curiosity and self-discovery, highlighting that the process of learning and understanding one's body is as crucial as the end product in dance training.Resources / Mentions:Episode 16 SlideshowJordan Eagle EpisodeLiza Little EpisodeLaban / Bartenieff Movement SystemSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a textGuest: Jordan EaglePerformerIn this interview episode, Eileen and Amy interview Jordan Eagle, a multifaceted performer and photographer. They discuss Jordan's journey in the arts, the pressures of identity within the performance industry, and the importance of community and storytelling. Jordan shares her journey with photography, her inspirations, and the nuances of supporting artists. The conversation also touches on the realities of being a performer, the challenges of navigating the industry, and the benefits of cross-training for physical well-being. In this conversation, there is an emphasis on the significance of rest and cross-training for dancers and the importance of both mobility and flexibility. Jordan shares her personal experiences with weightlifting, injury recovery, and the psychological impacts of being a dancer. The discussion also highlights the need for a supportive community and the normalization of comebacks in the dance industry, as well as the importance of understanding one's identity beyond physical capabilities.Jordan (she/her) is a musical theatre performer based in NYC. She has a degree in dance performance and choreography as well as Creative Writing. Over the years Jordan has performed regionally and in NYC cabaret clubs, taught dance and voice, and run her own photography business. Jordan currently works as a copywriter for Dancers Who Lift, a company dedicated to educating and empowering dancers in their nutritional and cross-training journeys.Follow / Learn More / Mentions:IG: @jordan.anne.eagle / @j.eaglephotographyTikTok: @jordan_anne_eagleWebsite: https://jeaglephotography.com/Avalon Artists GroupGavin CreelEnneagram TestMims Method Physical TherapyHSS - Jordan's SurgeonsMary Linda GrahamSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a textIn this conversation, Eileen and Amy delve into the intricacies of the creative process, particularly in choreography. They explore the nuances of how choreographers and dancers interact, the steps involved in creating a dance piece, and the emotional responses that drive artistic expression. The discussion highlights the challenges faced in collaboration, the importance of inspiration, and the ever-evolving nature of creativity in the dance industry. This episode emphasizes the importance of understanding dancer needs, the role of breaks, and the collaborative nature of creating movement. They also examine various sources of inspiration, the significance of artistic intent, and the necessity of clear communication in rehearsals; delving into the importance of breath in movement and the overarching goal of restoring humanity within the dance process.Resources / Mentions:Episode 14 SlideshowCrystal PiteHortonGrahamSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a textGuest: Alice RobbWriterIn this engaging conversation, Eileen and Amy interview Alice Robb, author of 'Don't Think, Dear: On Loving and Leaving Ballet', exploring her journey from the ballet world to becoming a writer. They discuss the emotional complexities of loving ballet, the impact of dreams (in regards to her first book), and the importance of curiosity, especially as we learn. Alice shares her insights on body image, the need for change in ballet training, and how writing this book has allowed her to illuminate problematic themes that have influenced how some readers approach teaching dance moving forward. The conversation highlights the significance of inclusivity, the need for disruption and the acknowledgement of diverse paths within the dance world.Alice (she/her) is the author of two non-fiction books: Why We Dream (Picador 2019), which was translated into fifteen foreign languages, and Don't Think, Dear: On Loving and Leaving Ballet (HarperCollins 2023), which has been called “devastating” (New York Times); “beautiful, difficult, and compelling” (Vanity Fair); “nuanced, intimate” (Guardian); “enlightening, perceptive” (Wall Street Journal).  Don't Think, Dear uses her childhood at the School of American Ballet as a jumping-off point for an exploration of femininity, beauty, pain, the body, and ballet's place in the modern world.Her journalism and essays have appeared in Vogue, Vanity Fair, the Washington Post, the Guardian, the New Statesman, the Financial Times, the Times Literary Supplement and elsewhere.Follow / Learn More / Mentions:IG: @alicelrobb Website: https://alicerobb.com/ Don't Think Dear: On Loving and Leaving BalletWhy We Dream: The Transformative Power of Our Nightly JourneySharon EyalBatsheva Dance CompanyGagaHortonABT & SABSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a textIn this episode, Eileen and Amy discuss ageism in the dance industry. They share personal experiences and observations of how age is weaponized and how dancers are expected to retire at a young age. They explore the implicit age limits in auditions and the pressure to prove oneself before reaching a certain age emphasizing the importance of staying in the industry and advocating for older dancers to challenge ageist norms. This episode highlights the challenges of being an older dancer in a field dominated by younger performers and the lack of acceptance and opportunities for older dancers, the pressure to conform to societal expectations, and the impact of ageism on career prospects. They also highlight the importance of challenging these norms and creating a more inclusive and supportive environment for dancers of all ages.Resources:Episode 12 SlideshowSupport the showM.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a textGuest: Delaney Charlotte BurkeMovement Artist / StorytellerIn this interview episode, Delaney shares her journey in the performing arts, from shifting into a triple threat to finding her passion for dance. She discusses the challenges of training in a traditional dance program and the pressure to fit into codified techniques; emphasizing the importance of artistic expression and individuality in dance, and the need for more fusion and diversity in the industry. She also opens up about the constant feeling of needing to prove herself and catch up, but acknowledges the value of her unique path and the importance of self-motivation. In this conversation, Delaney, Eileen and Amy discuss the importance of valuing artists' time and the need to move away from mentorship that makes one feel less than what they have to offer. Delaney also shares her journey of dealing with knee injuries and the psychological and emotional challenges that come with it, recognizing the need for more support and understanding for dancers going through injuries and the importance of educating dancers about their bodies.Delaney (she/her) started dancing as a freshman in High School because of her love and passion for Theatre. She began to take it seriously because she knew she wanted to pursue it professionally by the time she was a sophomore. She furthered her studies at DeSales University where she was a Dual Major in Theatre and Dance. After college, Delaney started working professionally in her field. Her favorite credits include Mamma Mia (Mom Understudy), Godspell (Uzo Track) and Matilda (Swing). She is also in a contemporary Storytelling company, Thistle Dance. She continues to audition in person in NYC and take class under some of the greats at Steps on Broadway and Broadway Dance Center in all styles. She has promised to continue to stick her nose to the grindstone to make her dreams a reality.Follow / Learn More / Mentions:IG: @delaneycharlotteburkeWhat is a Saturn Return?Dr. Donald RoseWords That Move Me with Dana Wilson PodcastNo End, Only More (next group 9/3)Activation Warning: This episode contains sensitive topics including medical and surgical references. Please take care of your body.Support the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a Text Message.In this Mini Series episode, Eileen and Amy discuss the topic of disordered eating. They provide definitions and distinctions between disordered eating, intuitive eating, and eating disorders. They share their personal experiences with disordered eating and how it has evolved over time. The conversation also touches on the influence of societal and cultural factors on eating behaviors, as well as the prevalence of eating disorders in the dance and aesthetic sports industries. Eileen and Amy go on to discuss the transition from disordered eating to eating disorders and the coping mechanisms involved; exploring the connection between control, trauma, and body image, highlighting the impact of societal beauty standards. They also discuss the prevalence of eating disorders among athletes and the role of shame and secrecy in perpetuating these disorders. This episode emphasizes the importance of recognizing and addressing the underlying pain and trauma that contribute to disordered eating and how the dance world is a prime environment for food to be used as a coping mechanism to manage bodily autonomy, control and a sense of empowerment or sovereignty within a dancing body.Resources:Episode 10 SlideshowActivation Warning: This episode contains sensitive topics including eating disorders, abuse and self harm. Please take care of your body.Support the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a Text Message.Guest: Liza LittleSculptorIn this interview episode, Eileen and Amy discuss Liza's journey from being a dancer to becoming a sculptor as well as the intersection of art and science, the importance of curiosity, and the challenges of the audition world. Liza shares her motivation to understand the self-image and the human body through sculpture and emphasizes the need for artists to step outside of their bubble and connect with the world around them. In this conversation, they also discuss how dance and sculpture meet, the importance of history and tradition in art, and the role of cross-training in their creative practices. The physicality and mindfulness of swimming as a form of cross-training and the need for dancers to be their own advocates is explored as well as the need for inclusivity and openness in the art world and the importance of celebrating different bodies and perspectives. Overall, this episode highlights the power of art to connect and express the human experience.Liza (she/her) is a figurative sculptor based in Queens, NY. Passionate for learning and driven by curiosity, Liza is always searching for connections between mediums. She graduated from the Certificate program at The Ailey School, studied at The Feldenkrais Institute, and The Art Students League of New York. She received a BS from The City College of New York with a Psychology major and Biology minor, and finished an honors research project in a neuroscience lab. In 2022, Liza received her MFA in Sculpture with a minor in Anatomy from the New York Academy of Art. She has received scholarships from Urban Glass, The Studio at Corning Museum of Glass, Penland School of Craft, and The Fantasy Fountain Fund for the Arts. Her sculpture practice uses ceramic, glass and stone to express the physicality of the human figure, especially of women. Recently, Liza‘s work was selected for the Libensky Award Exhibition in Prague, Czech Republic, among a cohort of emerging glass artists.Follow / Learn More / Mentions:IG: @lizagracelittle_sculptor Website: https://www.lizagracelittlesculpture.com/ Backstage.com I Robert Beverly Hale I Stephen Rogers Peck I Dr. Paul Richer I Feldenkrais Institute I Linda Celeste SimsSupport the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a Text Message.In this Mini Series episode, Eileen and Amy discuss the professional paths within the dance industry, focusing on the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders (DCC) as an example. They explore the narrow trajectory of competition dancers and the value placed on spectacle and entertainment as well as the transition from competition dance to college dance teams and the limited career options available. They also touch on the controversy surrounding the pay of DCC dancers and the undervaluing of their work. The episode highlights the need for change and a reevaluation of the implicit values and reasoning behind pay disparities and the devaluation of professional dancers, specifically focusing on the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders (DCC). They discuss the justifications given for low pay, such as the emphasis on sisterhood and purpose and highlight the control and exclusivity within the organization, as well as the devaluation of dancers' efforts, bodies, and voices. The conversation delves into the intersection of patriarchy, capitalism, misogyny, body dysmorphia, and gender pay gaps within the dance industry; emphasizing the need for dancers and industry professionals to value themselves and demand fair compensation.Resource:Episode 8 SlideshowSupport the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a Text Message.Guest: Lisa LongCurious Human Being I CSUF Professor I Movement Artist I Choreographer I Researcher I AuthorIn this interview episode, Lisa Long, shares her journey in the dance world & her passion for teaching & supporting students. She emphasizes the importance of change, connection, & nature in her work. Discussing her research on mindfulness practices in dance & the positive impact they have on students' metacognition, critical thinking, sensory awareness, and emotional intelligence. Her goal is to make the dance journey easier for the next generation and provide them with tools to become better human beings. Additionally, Lisa emphasizes the importance of mindful rigor and holistic training in dance performance and the need for explicit teaching and clear communication in dance classes coupled with the value of creating a safe and supportive environment for students to explore and ask questions. Lisa also shares her personal experiences with receiving both positive and negative feedback in her dance career, and how she has learned to prioritize her own self-efficacy. She encourages cross-training and exploring different practices to enhance physical and mental well-being. Overall, Lisa advocates for a more inclusive and mindful approach to dance education & performance.Lisa (she/her) leads her life curiosity-forward. Her evolution thus far has flowed between dance, choreography, massage, education, and most recently, writing.For over a decade she danced professionally, first for Dallas Black Dance Theatre, and next was a principal dancer with Dance Kaleidoscope, under the artistic direction of David Hochoy, for eight years. She has created roles in works by...learn more here.Follow / Learn More:IG: @dlongdanceWebsite: https://dlongdance.com/Mentions:Book: 8.1.24 Cognella PressAlwin Nikolais I Dallas Black Dance Theatre I Dance Kaleidoscope I Martha Graham I Oregon Shakespeare Festival I Alexandra Beller I Dave Brailsford I Wim HofSupport the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a Text Message.Episode 6 SlideshowIn the final part of this Episode (Part 4), Eileen and Amy's conversation explores the concept of a dysregulated nervous system and its connection to unresolved trauma. They explore the impact of trauma on the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems and how a dysregulated nervous system can lead to psychological, physical, and cognitive issues. Additionally, the window of tolerance is introduced as a period of optimal balance in the nervous system; delving into how somatic work, somatic integration, embodiment practices, and regulating the body helps to build the capacity of the window of tolerance. Various tools and resources for regulating the nervous system are mentioned as well.Support the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a Text Message.Episode 6 SlideshowIn Part 3 of this Episode, Eileen and Amy's conversation explores the concept of optimism and how it has been weaponized against dancing bodies. It delves into the importance of having empathetic witnesses and the impact of trauma on the nervous system. The five traumatic responses (fight, flight, freeze, fawn, and flop) are discussed in detail, highlighting their physical and emotional manifestations. They also emphasize the need for dancers to establish boundaries, challenge abusive behaviors, and cultivate a sense of self amidst societal pressures.Be sure to listen to Part 4 where they cover the nuances of a dysregulated nervous system, some terminology and some examples of how to regulate the nervous system.Support the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a Text Message.Episode 6 SlideshowIn Part 2 of this Episode, Eileen and Amy's conversation explores the impact of trauma on dancers and the importance of creating a safe and supportive environment in dance classes. It emphasizes that trauma is not just what happens to a person, but also what happens inside them as a result. The discussion highlights the need for dancers to build resilience and capacity to handle stress and challenges. It also emphasizes the importance of empathy and being an empathetic witness for others. The conversation touches on the concepts of optimism and the role it plays in resilience and healing.Be sure to listen to Part 3 where they cover the 5 Trauma Responses and how they can show up in the dance world.Support the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a Text Message.Episode 6 SlideshowIn Part 1 of this Episode, Eileen and Amy discuss the nervous system and how survival mode affects the body. They explore different lenses through which they view the nervous system, such as the somatic, energetic, traumatic, emotional, and physiological lenses. They explain that survival mode is a physiological and psychological response that occurs when the body is overwhelmed by stress, and it activates the body's stress response systems. They discuss the fight, flight, freeze, fawn, and flop trauma responses, as well as the importance of finding balance between the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems. They also touch on the role of cortisol and glucose in the body's stress response.Be sure to listen to Part 2 where they cover how stress and trauma inform each other and the reframing of what it means to be resilient and optimistic.Support the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a Text Message.Guest: Nichol LazenbyOwner of Grateful Body PilatesCSUS Dance Faculty ChoreographerMovement ArtistIn this conversation, Eileen, Amy and Nichol talk about the challenges of finding their voice and identity in the dance world, the importance of being seen and connecting with others through movement, and the power of vulnerability and authenticity in performance. They also touch on the need for dancers to create spaces where they feel safe to show up as their true selves. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of embracing one's unique journey and finding a place in the dance world. In this conversation, Nichol discusses the importance of dance as a form of self-expression and connection to the body emphasizing that anyone can dance, regardless of their experience or rhythm. She shares her insights on the importance of cross-training, particularly through Pilates, for injury prevention and rehabilitation and highlights the need for dancers to prioritize their mental, emotional, and spiritual health, including practices such as meditation. Nichol reflects on her own experiences with injuries and the lessons she has learned about self-care and acceptance calling for greater emphasis on injury prevention and mental health support in dance training and the industry as a whole.Nichol (she/her) is a dance artist, educator, choreographer, and Pilates instructor who has taught throughout the country for over 15 years. Originally from Southern California, she received a B.F.A. in Dance from California State University of Long Beach, and MFA degree in Dance/Choreography with an additional Certificate in College Teaching from The University of Arizona. Her interests in injury prevention, functional cross training, movement efficiency and longevity drew her to acquire a Pilates certification with an emphasis in dance conditioning through Body Arts and Science International (BASI) and a personal training certification through International Sports Sciences Association (ISSA).Throughout Nichol's dance career...learn more here.Follow / Learn More:IG: @nichol.mason.lazenby / @gratefulbodypilatesMentions:Doug VaroneBartenieff FundamentalsSupport the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on IG at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on IG at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a Text Message.Today's episode talks about just how common injuries in dance are, with 86% of dancers experiencing one or more injuries in their career. We also debunk the traditional injury protocol of RICE (Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation) that is now being challenged as it can prolong the healing process and hinder recovery. A new approach called PEACE (Protect, Elevate, Avoid anti-inflammatory substances, Compression, Educate) and LOVE (Load, Optimism, Vascularization, Exercise) is being advocated, focusing on protecting the injured area, promoting fluid movement, avoiding anti-inflammatory measures, providing compression or massage, and educating oneself about the body. Injuries in dance are not just physical but also have psychological and emotional components that need to be addressed; mental stress can manifest as physical tension and affect performance. Integrating the physical, mental, and emotional aspects of dance is crucial for injury prevention and recovery. Dance programs and institutions need to prioritize the holistic well-being of dancers and provide resources for physical and mental health support.Note: When Eileen discusses "beliefs" during this episode, she is referring specifically to embodied beliefs (not just the conscious beliefs we hold, but the energetic beliefs our body has somatically developed).  Resources / Studies / Articles / References:R.I.C.E. DebunkedR.I.C.E. MethodP.E.A.C.E. and L.O.V.E. Protocol80% dancers versus 20% rugby and football players will have a career affecting injury.*Be sure to check out S2E2 Injury Mini Series: What even IS an injury?'s episode description for more resources / studies / articles / references.Support the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on instagram at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on instagram at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Send us a Text Message.Guest: Julia HarnettPerformer / Producer / Coach / EducatorThis beautiful conversation covers a range of topics including the influence of ballet training on other dance styles, the importance of lead and follow in dance, the therapeutic nature of movement, and the impact of stagnation on the body. Julia Harnett shares her personal journey through the dance industry, from transitioning out of ballroom dancing to pursuing acting, yoga, and musical theater. She discusses the challenges of shifting from a dancer to an actor and the impact of body image on her career. The conversation also delves into the Eurocentric aesthetic in dance and covers everything from the impact of different dance styles to the importance of self-care and mental well-being to the importance of rest and the need for new work in the industry to aging and the empowerment of dancers to advocate for change with an emphasis on the significance of storytelling and the need for celebration and recognition of dancers at all stages of their careers.Julia (she/her) is a dynamic triple threat who began performing at the age of four. Early training consisted of exclusively ballet (Royal Academy of Dance), whilst later adding jazz (Jack Cole/ Fosse), Scottish highland dance, musical theatre, contemporary, and competitive dancesport (ballroom and latin). ​Never one to shy away from her emotions, Julia was also involved heavily in the drama department of her high school and local theatre community, and went on to work for theatres across Canada and the United States, with principal and ensemble roles in Guys & Dolls (Kennedy Center), A Christmas Story (Center Theatre Group -The Ahmanson), Chicago (The Fulton Theatre), and In the Heights (Arts Club Theatre - Vancouver). It wasn't long before the television and film industry started calling her name, and Julia soon began working national television commercial spots as a principal actor, choreographer, and dancer for Glade, Hershey's, Scotiabank, Lexus, Nikon, Party City, Del Taco, and Time Warner Cable...read more here.Follow / Learn More:IG: @juliaharnettWebsite: IMDB / Jack Cole DancersMentions:Misty CopelandArticle: Regrets of the DyingSupport the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on instagram at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on instagram at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.com*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

In the first of many Mini Series episodes, Eileen and Amy discuss the topic of injury in dance. They explore the definition of an injury and the different types of injuries, including acute and chronic, overuse and traumatic. They emphasize the importance of recovery and the need for dancers to train intentionally and balance their bodies. They also touch on the psychological and emotional aspects of injuries and the prevalence of injuries in the dance industry. The conversation aims to provide education, perspective, and support for dancers dealing with injuries. They discuss the interconnectedness of the body and the importance of understanding the root causes of pain and injury and emphasize the need for a holistic approach to healing and the importance of listening to and believing in one's own body. The limitations of traditional medical professionals and the need for a diverse range of resources and perspectives in the field of healthcare is also discussed. They go on to highlight the responsibility of dance teachers and other professionals to create a safe and supportive environment for dancers to explore and understand their bodies. Resources / Studies / Articles / References:Preventing Dance Injuries: A Current PerspectiveInjury IncidenceDetailed Injury Epidemiology in Contemporary DanceEpidemiology of Injuries Connected with Dance: A Critical Review on EpidemiologInjuries in Professional Modern DancersCommon Dance InjuriesRehearsal and Performance Volume in Professional Ballter: A Five-Season Cohort StudySupport the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on instagram at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on instagram at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.comThank you for moving with us.-Eileen + Amy*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Guest: Erin KeiActor In Erin's words: "This changes daily. Today it's 'Actor'."In Season 2's Premiere Episode, Erin shares her journey and experiences in the dance world; discussing how she became aware of her body during puberty and the pressure she felt to conform to societal ideals. She opens up about her struggles with body dysmorphia and the constant need to be seen and validated by others. This conversation highlights the disconnection between the internal and external experience of the body in the dance industry and the importance of body image and self-expression. The episode also explores the need for dancers to focus on how they feel in their bodies rather than conforming to societal expectations, the impact of patriarchy and binary thinking on dancers' self-perception and the pressure to maintain a certain aesthetic. The need for more spaces and time for dancers to develop a sense of self and build a healthy relationship with their bodies is highlighted as well as the importance of intention and storytelling in dance and the need for greater representation and inclusivity in the industry.*Activation Warning: This episode discusses sensitive topics. Please take care of your body.* Erin (she/her) is a New York artist, originally from TX. Erin has performed in NY, Regionally, on National Tours, in Commercials, and Film/TV. Along with performing, Erin finds joy facilitating other artists and choreographers, as well as teaching students of all ages to find their artistic voice. Erin currently serves as the Associate Artistic Director for Thistle Dance. Huge thank you to Eileen and Amy for creating a safe space for movement artists to speak to their experiences. Thank you for listening!Follow: IG: @erinnish & @thistle_danceSupport the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on instagram at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on instagram at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.comThank you for moving with us.-Eileen + Amy*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

We're back...Season 2 is here!Check out our Teaser Episode where Eileen + Amy reveal how Season 2 will be focusing on expanding the concept of showing up fully embodied within the dance world. Find out what they both have been up to since Season 1 wrapped back in December 2023 and what changes you can expect this season.They discuss their excitement surrounding various guests and introduce a new mini-series focus that will include topics like pregnancy, injury, disordered eating, anatomy and physiology, the process of art-making, and grief (just to name a few). Emphasizing the importance of widening the perspective of the human experience and normalizing all experiences within the dance community, the hosts will also be inviting audience participation; continuing their aim to create a space where dancers and movement artists can feel less alone in their journey.Support the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on instagram at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on instagram at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.comThank you for moving with us.-Eileen + Amy*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

It is officially Episode 12, our Season 1 Finale. What an incredible journey it has been. In this episode, Eileen and Amy discuss some themes they weren't able to cover in Episode 9 that came up in their conversation with Jonathan Kim (they even include a clip they weren't able to include in that week's episode because it would have been way too long). They also get to ask some questions they had wanted to ask each other in previous episodes and they expand on their personal and professional relationship. Their conversation emphasizes the importance of authenticity in dance and the need for dancers to embrace their natural skill sets; discussing the need for individuality in choreography and the importance of allowing dancers to bring their unique artistry to the performance. They explore the importance of collaboration, integration, and empowerment within the dance industry, taking a moment to highlight the various roles that have been compartmentalized and the need for creative alignment and collaborative co-creation. Their conversation also addresses the dehumanization of dancers and the need for equity and value in the industry; emphasizing the importance of creating safe spaces for dancers to advocate for themselves and express their needs.Finally, Eileen and Amy discuss Amy's transition into the role of Artistic Director of TwoPoint4 Dance and the challenges she faced surrounding her edge of growth as well as Eileen's edge of growth in the somatic work she's bringing into the dance world. They share their motivations and how they have changed, focusing more on authenticity and less on external validation; as well as the importance of boundaries and self-acceptance. Be sure to listen to hear what they are leaving behind and what they're taking with them. Thank you for an incredible first season! Support Us / Learn More:-Kaia EvolutionsWebsite: https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/***In the month of December, all of Eileen's H.O.P.E. Coaching sessions purchased in December are 22% OFF in honor of her 37th birthday, the age her sister was when she took her life. Check out her website for more info.***-TwoPoint4 Dance TheatreWebsite: https://www.twopoint4dance.org/***Be sure to donate to their GoFundMe to help them travel to LA for a performance.***https://www.gofundme.com/f/twopoint4-dance-theatre-goes-to-laEpisode Mentions Here:Misty Copeland in Swan Lake (notice the comments section - devastating)Support the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on instagram at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on instagram at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.comThank you for moving with us.-Eileen + Amy*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Guest: Eileen Kielty Creator & Founder of Kaia EvolutionsMulti-disciplinary Artist, Teacher, PerformerMovement Alchemist & FacilitatorCo-Host of M.O.V.E. with Eileen + AmyIn Episode 11, we get to learn more about Eileen, her and Amy's relationship, how she has been re-identifying herself in regards to the titles she's claiming and the importance of bridging the gap between seemingly separate disciplines. They talk about introception and internal sense and its use in honoring our authenticities and intuition as well as why trauma-informed instruction is necessary within the dance space. Eileen (she / her) is a queer multi-disciplinary artist, teacher & performer as well as a clairsentient intuitive movement coach. She has degrees in both dance & psychology as well as extensive training in somatic integration, embodiment & intimacy practices & is passionate about consent-driven spaces with an emphasis on social justice. Eileen has held countless positions within the arts, fitness, wellness & educational space. She recognizes the importance of illuminating the darker, often hidden, parts of the human experience through sharing openly & authentically as we're not meant to do this alone. She is the creator & founder of Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of her life's work & a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019. Eileen believes in the power of creative expression & its ability to reveal the unspoken language of being alive; the body always knows & movement is our direct connection to our deepest truth.Follow & Learn More:IG: @ekielty & @kaia.evolutionsWebsite: https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/***In the month of December, all of Eileen's H.O.P.E. Coaching sessions purchased in December are 22% OFF in honor of her 37th birthday, the age her sister was when she took her life. Check out her website for more info.***Episode Mentions / Resources Here:Queer Healers: https://www.queerhealers.com/RAINN - Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network: https://centers.rainn.org/AFSP - American Foundation for Suicide Prevention: https://afsp.org/about-afsp/NIMH - National Institute of Mental Health (Eating Disorder info): https://www.nimh.nih.gov/hSupport the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on instagram at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on instagram at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.comThank you for moving with us.-Eileen + Amy*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Guest: Amy Kubat  Artistic Director of TwoPoint4 Dance TheatrePioneer of 3 Brains Theory & MethodologyMovement Alchemist & FacilitatorCo-Host of M.O.V.E. with Eileen + AmyIn Episode 10, we get to learn more about Amy, her and Eileen's relationship, her personal artistic philosophy, how she honors the body and all of its intricately beautiful and important systems and her newfound love and acceptance surrounding just how unique her movement artistry is...what if it's ok to be "misunderstood"?Amy (she / her) is currently working as the Artistic Director of TwoPoint4 Dance Theatre in Sacramento California. She has received her AA, BA, and MFA in Dance as well as certifications in Acrobatic Arts, Function Range Conditioning and is working toward her certification in Bodymind Dancing. Amy has followed her heart and instincts over her 20 year career into a vast and wide ranging assortment of dance techniques and jobs, including ballroom, dance science, ballet, modern, teacher, model, assistant, speaker, scholar, director, faculty, pole dancing, aerial work, commercial dance, somatic based movement practices, and so many others. The accumulation of knowledge in all of these different styles of dance has brought her to the conclusion that most dance techniques that would be considered very different are actually rooted in the same principles and foundations. It is Amy's purpose to make all movements accessible and inclusive to anyone that wants the option. Follow & Learn More:IG: @amyreahThesis Film: "Sum of Our Parts"https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xrhyilMR4E52mk560qSn2CmhSpv1jQp9/view?usp=sharingThesis Paper: "Of Three Minds..." https://www.proquest.com/openview/4425d7fcbcf421db8aa912f8b4c1a74e/1.pdf?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=18750&diss=yTwoPoint4 Dance Theatre: IG: @twopoint4danceWebsite: https://www.twopoint4dance.org/Donate / Support: https://www.twopoint4dance.org/donationGoFundMe for LA Performance: https://www.gofundme.com/f/twopoint4-dance-theatre-goes-to-laEpisode Mentions Here:Laban Methodology: Support the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on instagram at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on instagram at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.comThank you for moving with us.-Eileen + Amy*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Guest: Jonathan KimDance ArtistIn Episode 9, we have a beautifully affirming conversation with Jonathan about how first experiences in the dance world can be filled with a sense of power or a sense of fear, how he keeps coming back to his sense of community within the dance world, what he values in his own practice and how he finds those feelings of euphoria within his practice. He touches on how it is so important to reflect and break yourself open to ask yourself the tough questions. This conversation really felt like a warm and snuggly way to invite change into spaces that are absent of possibility and curiosity.*Please note: this interview was almost 2 hours in length so we ended up taking a few sections out and will be airing them in Episode 12 when Eileen + Amy expand on Episodes 9/10/11 (Episode 12 drops 12/18).Jonathan (he / him) is a dance artist and full time company member with Repertory Dance Theatre in Salt Lake City, Utah. Previously, he danced with SALT Contemporary Dance, Lineage Dance Company, and SJDanceCo. He has performed works by historical modern pioneers and contemporary choreographers. Highlights include, but are not limited to, works by: José Limón, Michio Ito, Donald McKayle, Ihsan Rustem, Shane Urton, Kate Skarpetowska, Mitsu Salmon, and Noa Zuk and Ohad Fishof. Some choreographic interests include exploring improvisation, durational performances, partnering, queer/Asian experiences, and being soft. He is guided by the principle that dance is community, connection, and for everyone. While not dancing, you can find him taking a long nap. Follow & Learn More:IG: @jonkimroxRepertory Dance TheatreIG: @rdtutahWebsite: https://rdtutah.org/Learn More About Fosse Dance Here:https://www.verdonfosse.com/Support the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on instagram at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on instagram at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.comThank you for moving with us.-Eileen + Amy*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

In Episode 8, Eileen and Amy cover the themes from Episodes 5, 6 and 7, expanding on the guests' insights and shares. We also take a moment to ask each other a question from our Interview Sheet that we provide our guests. This episode covers topics ranging from embodied limiting beliefs that lead to fear based decisions, limited opportunities that can often be caused by the perception of and / or experience with loss and limited agency from both internal and external influences of control.***We do want to mention that this episode comes with an activation warning as we do discuss sexual assault and non consensual bodily harm. Please take care of your body and be sure to reference the resources below if you or someone you know is in need of support.***Because safety, agency and consent are imperative.Thank you for being here.Resources:RAINN - Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network https://centers.rainn.org/National Domestic Violence Hotlinehttps://www.thehotline.org/Support the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on instagram at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on instagram at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.comThank you for moving with us.-Eileen + Amy*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Guest: Hannah SeidenMovement Artist & Pelvic Pain AdvocateIn Episode 7, we talk with Hannah about topics ranging from wild freelance dance experiences, to the confusion and frustration of chronic pain, to dancing from your perineum, to the difference between dancer and movement artist, to wanting our goddamn headshot back after an audition. ***We do need to include this Activation Warning*** In this episode we discuss themes surrounding:Medical traumaSexual traumaIntimate partner violence / abuseChronic painNon consensual situationsAddiction / relapse themesSex / intimacy themesGraphic anatomical mentionsPlease take care of your body as some of the topics we cover in this episode have the potential to bring up emotions, memories and tender subjects that may require some aftercare. We understand far too many bodies have experiences where they were not safe and we want to ensure your nervous system has a heads up before you head into this episode.***Hannah (she / her) from Boulder, CO, is a freelance dance artist based in New York City. She graduated with honors from NYU Tisch School of the Arts with a B.F.A. in Dance. She has performed both nationally and internationally in works by Alexis Blake, MICHIYAYA Dance, Sidra Bell, Itzik Galili, Kate Harpootlian, Stacey Tookey, Ohad Naharin, Shannon Gillen, Larry Keigwin, Merce Cunningham, Sonya Tayeh and many others.  Along with live performance, she has danced and choreographed in music videos, films, and ads for numerous artists and companies including THINX and MAC Cosmetics. Most recently, she finished filming Mean Girls, the Musical. She has shown her choreography in Connecticut, Colorado, California, and NYC. Hannah choreographs and teaches various styles of dance and Pilates to people of all ages around the world.Just a quick note, Hannah's audio was a bit distorted despite multiple attempts at troubleshooting both during the recording and in post. The content was too important to not share and way too magical to re-record. So if you notice her audio, it sounds a bit like a phone call and is a bit louder in comparison to Eileen and Amy's tracks. We appreciate your understanding.Follow & Learn More:IG: @hbseiden & @thehotgirlwithpelvicpainMean Girls the Musical Movie (official trailer)https://youtu.be/fFtdbEgnUOk?si=W1cSZPA_ty5t7lmEAdditional Resources:RAINN - Rape, Abuse & Support the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on instagram at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on instagram at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.comThank you for moving with us.-Eileen + Amy*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Guest: Courtney OzovekMovement Artist, Choreographer, Collaborator, EducatorIn Episode 6, our talk with Courtney covers topics ranging from how higher education for dancers tends to focus on everything we do wrong, to the impact unspoken expectations can inflict on someone's decisions...to the difficulties of maintaining multiple roles within one body and how we handle major life moments that have the ability to disrupt how and when we are able to move forward. ***Activation Warning: We want to give you a heads up that we do touch on themes surrounding cancer, loss, death and suicide. Please take care of your body and thank you for being here.*** Courtney (she / her) is a dance artist, choreographer, and educator rooted in the Los Angeles and Orange County area. She currently dances with Keith Johnson Dancers but has been the founding member of BARE Dance Company, RhetOracle Dance Company, and Solevita Dance Company. She has enjoyed choreographing for A Chorus Line, West Side Story, Heathers, Merrily We Roll Along, The SpongeBob Musical, and Lizzie. Courtney's elaborate works have been featured in California, Arizona, Alaska, and Guantanamo Bay, as well as in shows at Universal Studios, Disneyland, and private corporate events. She earned her MFA in Dance from California State University, Long Beach and currently serves as a Professor of Dance at California State University, Fullerton.  Courtney has collaborated with a number of notable dance artists to include Keith Johnson, Andrew Vaca, Rebecca Lemme, Rebecca Bryant, Colleen Thomas, Gladys Kares, Debra Noble, and Macarena Gandarillas. Follow & Support:IG: @cozovekIf you're in the area, check out Cal State Fullerton's production of "A Chorus Line" running November 9th - December 2nd, 2023. For more info / to purchase tickets, check out the link below.https://www.fullerton.edu/arts/theatre/events/season.phpSupport the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on instagram at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on instagram at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.comThank you for moving with us.-Eileen + Amy*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Guest: Alex SheppardDance Professor & Movement FacilitatorIn Episode 5, we talk with Alex about good and bad auditions, self love, viewing dancers as athletes, how dancers can ask more questions and make mistakes, how we are hard on other dancers and how dance is subjective (and how that can actually let us off the hook).  This episode is a FULL one. It's a little longer than our other interviews so far because Alex's son, Finley, was present for the first half. We ended up extending our conversation a bit once Alex was able to get childcare during the interview so we kept our discussion going as it was so rich and we were all getting so much from it.Alex (she / her) started dancing at Modesto Junior College where she fell in love with dance. After graduating from San Jose State with her BFA in dance she moved to New York to pursue her professional dance career. She set out to NYC with a plan to be there for 2 years (max)…almost 8 years later she moved back to California. During her time in NYC, Alex had the pleasure of dancing with many talented artists; Mike Esperanza, Jana Hicks, Marijke Eliasberg, Alison Chase, and Omri Drumlevich to name a few. She now lives in Oakland with her husband, fur babies and human baby; Finley. When Alex is not in the dance studio or at home she is teaching Yoga, Pilates or various other classes that involve moving the body. Follow & Learn More:IG: @dancinggingeralexWebsite: https://www.dancingginger.com/Podcast IG: @husbandandwifetalkPodcast Website: https://www.husbandandwifetalk.com/Additional Resources:Thesis Info: https://worldcat.org/en/title/1245512540 - This is a link to borrow the book from the university library and get it shipped to you.https://www.proquest.com/openview/f060559765010dcc51afe6de848bd88d/1.pdf?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=51922&diss=y - This is the ProQuest preview.Gibney Dance: https://gibneydance.org/Support the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on instagram at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on instagram at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.comThank you for moving with us.-Eileen + Amy*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

This week's episode is a little different as it is just Eileen and Amy. Every 4th episode of this podcast will be with just us as we dive a little deeper into the themes from previous episodes, our own journeys (answering questions from our list we provide our guests) and an opportunity for us to widen the lens of the dancer and movement artist experience through our expertise in working with bodies for a combined almost 40 years. Episode 4 happened to be really rich with expanded dialogue…we promise we always circle back to the initial question or focused theme…so we decided to split it into 2 parts. They are not even in length of time but more in topics we discussed. Part 1 focuses a bit more on Amy.Part 2 focuses a bit more on Eileen. In Part 2, we also discuss a bit more about our two previous episode interviews with Kristen Brooks Sandler (Episode 2) and Tony Nguyen (Episode 3).A couple things to note in Part 2: Eileen does mention some, potentially, activating topics surrounding the safety of her body…please take care of yourself (she does give an “activation warning” heads up right before she mentions a couple sensitive topics). There is also a point towards the end of Part 2 where Amy mentions that it's 222. Eileen's sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 consistently sends Eileen signs and one of them is the number 222. Our recording went much longer than expected that day and while we were finishing up the episode, Amy made sure to point out the time. So we took a moment to say hi to Eileen's sister. If you or anyone you know needs support, there are some resources in the bottom of the show notes. You are not alone.There is also a mention of Julia Cameron's book "The Artist's Way" during this episode. You can learn more about it here: https://a.co/d/cwImCFz *Be sure to listen to both Part 1 & Part 2 for our full conversation.Support the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on instagram at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on instagram at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.comThank you for moving with us.-Eileen + Amy*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

This week's episode is a little different as it is just Eileen and Amy. Every 4th episode of this podcast will be with just us as we dive a little deeper into the themes from previous episodes, our own journeys (answering questions from our list we provide our guests) and an opportunity for us to widen the lens of the dancer and movement artist experience through our expertise in working with bodies for a combined almost 40 years. Episode 4 happened to be really rich with expanded dialogue…we promise we always circle back to the initial question or focused theme…so we decided to split it into 2 parts. They are not even in length of time but more in topics we discussed. Part 1 focuses a bit more on Amy.Part 2 focuses a bit more on Eileen. In Part 2, we also discuss a bit more about our two previous episode interviews with Kristen Brooks Sandler (Episode 2) and Tony Nguyen (Episode 3).A couple things to note in Part 2: Eileen does mention some, potentially, activating topics surrounding the safety of her body…please take care of yourself (she does give an “activation warning” heads up right before she mentions a couple sensitive topics). There is also a point towards the end of Part 2 where Amy mentions that it's 222. Eileen's sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 consistently sends Eileen signs and one of them is the number 222. Our recording went much longer than expected that day and while we were finishing up the episode, Amy made sure to point out the time. So we took a moment to say hi to Eileen's sister. If you or anyone you know needs support, there are some resources in the bottom of the show notes. You are not alone.There is also a mention of Julia Cameron's book "The Artist's Way" during this episode. You can learn more about it here: https://a.co/d/cwImCFz *Be sure to listen to both Part 1 & Part 2 for our full conversation.Support the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on instagram at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on instagram at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.comThank you for moving with us.-Eileen + Amy*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Guest: Tony NguyenExecutive Director & Founder of TwoPoint4 Dance TheatreIn Episode 3, we talk with Tony about unconventional paths of training, how he sees other artists and what it means to be "successful". There is a moment that Tony shares his tears with us as he reflects on something his mentor shared with him recently and we discuss the presence of stereotypical masculine and feminine expectations that have been present for him in the studio. Tony (he / him) received his Bachelor's degree in Dance from CSU Sacramento and has since performed with various companies in the Bay Area and internationally. Tony has worked with the likes of Randee Paufve, Joe Goode Performance Group, and East to West Dance Collective, as well as toured with Bandaloop across the United States, Asia, and Africa. He has also served as the assistant artistic director for Red Bucket Dance Theater from 2011 to 2013, and is currently the executive director, choreographer, and sometimes dancer for TwoPoint4 Dance Theatre, where he uses collaboration to create performances that challenge viewers on social, political, and personal issues. In 2019, Tony received the audience choice award at PUSHfest in San Francisco. In addition to his work in dance, Tony is also a professional photographer and enjoys exploring new ways to change the way performances are viewed in Sacramento. In 2021, Tony set “Fragmented Memories,” a full-length piece, with much fanfare in the Sacramento community and recently set “Brick x Brick” in collaboration with the dancers of TwoPoint4. During his free time, you can find him swinging kettlebells, playing with his daughter Margot, and finding fun innovative eateries throughout the region.  Follow & Learn More:IG: @tonynguyenphoto & @twopoint4danceWebsite: https://www.tonynguyenphotography.com/ & https://www.twopoint4dance.org/Be sure to keep an eye out for more information on how you can support / donate to TwoPoint4 Dance Theatre on 11/28 (National Day of Giving) to help them produce work and support their dancers, as well as any information about upcoming shows.Support the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on instagram at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on instagram at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.comThank you for moving with us.-Eileen + Amy*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Guest: Kristen Brooks SandlerDirector, Choreographer, CreatrixFounder & Artistic Director of Thistle DanceToday marks our first interview episode with an incredible guest who challenges what sustainable, collaborative, inclusive, consent-based work can look like. Not only does she share how she holds space for both the person and the artist but the collaborative framework she believes (and we do too) has the power to make a bigger impact on our industry at large if we all chose to meet each other with more transparent authenticity.Kristen (she / her) is an award winning director and choreographer whose work can be seen on screen and stage. Purple haired & proudly queer, she is committed to physical storytelling, believing in movement as the language that bridges the gap between audience and artistry. On stage, she has directed & choreographed musicals, immersive work and original dance creations at regional & international theaters. Her screen credits include work on set with Nickelodeon and Hallmark, & her films have been featured in festivals in over 30 countries. Her first original creation, won Best Dance and Physical Theater at the Capital Fringe Festival, and she has since been nominated for many awards, including a New York Innovative Theater Award for Best Choreography.Her company, Thistle Dance, uses movement as the primary language to conjure wonderfully strange creations challenging our codified perception of history and lore. The company is currently in their second year of creating the immersive experience “UNBOUND” in partnership with the New York Public Library, opening in October.Before leading her own rehearsal rooms, Kristen worked as a performer alongside such creators as Andy Blankenbuehler, Savion Glover, Karma Camp & Connor Gallagher. Follow & Learn More:IG: @kristenbrooks19 & @thistle_danceWebsite: https://www.kristenbrookssandler.com/ & https://www.thistledanceinc.com/RSVP for your FREE tickets to "The Art of Sin" at the Jefferson Market Library running 3 shows per night Friday October 13th / 20th / 27th: https://www.thistledanceinc.com/tickets Support the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on instagram at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on instagram at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.comThank you for moving with us.-Eileen + Amy*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.

Welcome to the first episode of M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy. In our debut episode we introduce ourselves, we laugh a lot and we get serious about where the idea for this podcast came from and where we're headed. Eileen talks about her journey to this podcast and we briefly touch on the injuries and thresholds of her life that created a “not-so-talked about” path in her dance career. We talk about how we met, and how we met again and how Amy was there for Eileen during a time of crisis, revealing both of our commitments to being truth tellers. Thank you for coming along for this ride. We are so happy you are here. Please enjoy our first episode of M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy. Support the Show.M.O.V.E. with Eileen + Amy is a Kaia Evolutions Podcast.New episodes air on Wednesdays when in season.To learn more about Eileen + Amy, be sure to follow them on instagram at @ekielty + @amyreah and keep up to date on the podcast at @movewitheileenandamy. For more information about Kaia Evolutions, a culmination of Eileen's life's work and a love letter to her sister, Katie, who died by suicide in 2019 - visit https://www.kaiaevolutions.com/ or follow on instagram at @kaia.evolutions If you want to share part of your dancer / movement artist journey with us, email us at movepod@kaiaevolutions.comThank you for moving with us.-Eileen + Amy*If you or anyone you know is in need of support, please call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800.273.8255 OR text 988. You are not alone.