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Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast — CodeGen, Agents, Computer Vision, Data Science, AI UX and all things Software 3.0
Marc Andreessen introspects on The Death of the Browser, Pi + OpenClaw, and Why "This Time Is Different"

Latent Space: The AI Engineer Podcast — CodeGen, Agents, Computer Vision, Data Science, AI UX and all things Software 3.0

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Fresh off raising a monster $15B, Marc Andreessen has lived through multiple computing platform shifts firsthand, from Mosaic and Netscape to cofounding A16z. In this episode, Marc joins swyx and Alessio in a16z's legendary Sand Hill Road office to argue that AI is not just another hype cycle, but the payoff of an “80-year overnight success”: from neural nets and expert systems to transformers, reasoning models, coding, agents, and recursive self-improvement. He lays out why he thinks this moment is different, why AI is finally escaping the old boom-bust pattern, and why the real bottleneck may be less about models than about the messy institutions, incentives, and social systems that struggle to absorb technological change.This episode was a dream come true for us, and many thanks to Erik Torenberg for the assist in setting this up. Full episode on YouTube!We discuss:* Marc's long view on AI: from the 1980s AI boom and expert systems to AlexNet, transformers, and why he sees today's moment as the culmination of decades of compounding technical progress* Why “this time is different”: the jump from LLMs to reasoning, coding, agents, and recursive self-improvement, and why Marc thinks these breakthroughs make AI real in a way prior cycles were not* AI winters vs. “80-year overnight success”: why the field repeatedly swings between utopianism and doom, and why Marc thinks the underlying researchers were mostly right even when the timelines were wrong* Scaling laws, Moore's Law, and what to build: why he believes AI scaling laws will continue, why the outside world is messier than lab purists assume, and how startups can still create durable value on top of rapidly improving models* The dot-com crash and AI infrastructure risk: Marc's comparison between today's AI capex boom and the fiber/data-center overbuild of 2000, plus why he thinks this cycle is different because the buyers are huge cash-rich incumbents and demand is already here* Why old NVIDIA chips may be getting more valuable: the pace of software progress, chronic capacity shortages, and the idea that even current models are “sandbagged” by supply constraints* Open source, edge inference, and the chip bottleneck: why Marc thinks local models, Apple Silicon, privacy, trust, and economics all point toward a major role for edge AI* American vs. Chinese open source AI: DeepSeek as a “gift to the world,” why open models matter not just because they're free but because they teach the world how things work, and how open source strategies may shift as the market consolidates* Why Pi and OpenClaw matter so much: Marc's claim that the combination of LLM + shell + filesystem + markdown + cron loop is one of the biggest software architecture breakthroughs in decades* Agents as the new “Unix”: how agent state living in files allows portability across models and runtimes, and why self-modifying agents that can extend themselves may redefine what software even is* The future of coding and programming languages: why Marc thinks software becomes abundant, why bots may translate freely across languages, and why “programming language” itself may stop being a salient concept* Browsers, protocols, and human readability: lessons from Mosaic and the web, why text protocols and “view source” mattered, and how similar principles may shape AI-native systems* Real-world OpenClaw use: health dashboards, sleep monitoring, smart homes, rewriting firmware on robot dogs, and why the most aggressive users are discovering both the power and danger of agents first* Proof of human vs. proof of bot: why Marc thinks the internet's bot problem is now unsolvable via detection alone, and why biometric + cryptographic proof of human becomes necessaryTimestamps* 00:00 Marc on AI's “80-Year Overnight Success”* 00:01 A Quick Message From swyx* 01:44 Inside a16z With Marc Andreessen* 02:13 The Truth About a16z's AI Pivot* 03:29 Why This AI Boom Is Not Like 2016* 06:33 Marc on AI Winters, Hype Cycles, and What's Different Now* 10:09 Reasoning, Coding, Agents, and the New AI Breakthroughs* 12:13 What Founders Should Build as Models Keep Improving* 16:33 AI Capex, GPU Shortages, and the Dot-Com Crash Analogy* 24:54 Open Source AI, Edge Inference, and Why It Matters* 33:03 Why OpenClaw and PI Could Change Software Forever* 41:37 Agents, the End of Interfaces, and Software for Bots* 46:47 Do Programming Languages Even Have a Future?* 54:19 AI Agents Need Money: Payments, Crypto, and Stablecoins* 56:59 Proof of Human, Internet Bots, and the Drone Problem* 01:06:12 AI, Management, and the Return of Founder-Led Companies* 01:12:23 Why the Real Economy May Resist AI Longer Than Expected* 01:15:53 Closing ThoughtsTranscriptMarc: Something about AI that causes the people in the field, I would say, to become both excessively utopian and excessively apocalyptic. Having said that, I think what's actually happened is an enormous amount of technical progress that built up over time. And like for, for example, we now know that neural network is the correct architecture.And I, I will tell you like there was a 60 year run where that was like a, you know, or even 70 years where that was controversial. And so, so the way I think about what's happening is basically, I think, I think about basically the, the, the period we're in right now is it's, I call it 80 year overnight success, right?Which is like, it's an overnight success ‘cause it's like bam, you know, chat GPT hits and then, and then oh one hits, and then, you know, open claw hits and like, you know, these are open, these are, these are like overnight, like radical, overnight transformative successes, but they're drawing on an 80 year sort of wellspring backlog, you know, of, of, of, of ideas and thinking it's not just that it's all brand new, it's that it's an unlock of all of these decades of like very serious, hardcore research.If I were 18, like this is a hundred, this is what I would be spending all of my time on. This is like such an incredible conceptual breakthrough.swyx: Before we get into today's episode, I just have a small message for listeners. Thank you. We will not be able to bring you the ai, engineering, science, and entertainment contents that you so clearly want if you didn't choose to also click in and tune into our content.We've been approached by sponsors on an almost daily basis, but fortunately enough of you actually subscribed to us to keep all this sustainable without ads, and we wanna keep it that way. But I just have one favor to ask all of you. The single, most powerful, completely free thing you can do is to click that subscribe button.It's the only thing I'll ever ask of you, and it means absolutely everything to me and my team that works so hard to bring the in space to you each and every week. If you do it, I promise you will never stop working to make the show even better. Now, let's get into it.Alessio: Hey everyone, welcome to the Lidian Space Pockets. This is CIO, founder Kernel Labs, and I'm joined by s Swix, editor of Lidian Space.swyx: Hello. And we're in a 16 Z with a, uh, mark G and welcome.Marc: Yes, yes. A and what, half of 16? Something like that. A one. Exactly,swyx: exactly. Uh, apparently this is the, the final few days in your, your current office.You're moving across the road.Marc: Uh, we're, yeah. We have a, we have some, we have some projects underway, but yeah, this is actually, oh, this is the original. We're in actually the original office. We're in the, we're in the, we're, we're in the whole thing.swyx: It's beautiful. Yeah. Great.Marc: Thank you.swyx: So I have to come out, uh, this is a, you know, I wanted to pick a spicy start in October, 2022.I just made friends with Roone and, uh, I wanted to give him something to sort of be spicy about. And I said, uh. Uh, it'll never not be funny. The A 16 Z was constantly going. The future is where the smart people choose to spend their time and then going deep into crypto and not in ai. And that was in October 22nd, 2022.And Ruen says there was an internal meeting in a 16 Z to reorient around Gen ai. Obviously you have, but was there a meeting? What, what was that?Marc: I mean, I don't, look, I've been doing AI since the late eighties.swyx: Yeah.Marc: So I, I don't know, like all that, as far as I'm concerned, this stuff is all Johnny cum lately.Yeah. You, I mean, look, we've been doing ar entire existence. I mean, we've been doing AI machine learning deep, you know, deeply. We've been doing this stuff way from the beginning. Obviously a AI is just core to computer science. I, I, I actually view them as like quite, uh, quite continuous. Um, you know, Ben and I both have computer science degrees.Um, you know, we, we both, Ben, Ben and I actually both are world enough to remember the actual AI boom in the 1980s. Yeah. There was like a, there was a big AI boom at the time. Um, and there was a, was names like expert systems. Um, and they of like lisp and lisp machines. Uh, I, I coded in lisp. I was coding a lisp in 1989.When that was the, the language of the AI future. Um, yeah. So this is something that we're like completely, you completely comfortable with. I've been doing the whole time and are very enthusiastic aboutswyx: is there a strong, like this time is different because, uh, my closest analog was 20 16 17. It was an AI boom.Mm-hmm. And it petered out very, very quickly. Um, we, it just, it just in terms of investingMarc: sort of, sort of,swyx: yeah. Investment, investment excitement.Marc: Although that's really when the, the, the Nvidia phenomenon really, it was, I would say it was in that period when it was very clear that at, at the time it, the vocabulary was more machine learning, but it, it was very clear at that time that machine learning was hitting some sort of takeoff point.Alessio: Yeah.Marc: Well, and as you guys, you guys have talked about this at length on, on your thing, but, you know, if you really track what happened, I think the real story is, it was, it was the Alex net, uh, basically breakthrough in like 2013. That was the, that was the real knee in the curve. Um, and then it was obviously the transformer breakthrough in 17.Alessio: Yeah.Marc: Um, and then everything that followed. But, but, you know, look, machine learning, you know, there were, you know, look, uh, I mean look, I've been working, you know, I've been working with, uh, one of my, you know, kind of projects working with Facebook since 2004. Um, and on the board since 2007, and of course, you know, they, they started using machine learning very early, um, and, you know, have used it basically, you know, for like 20 years for, you know, content, you know, feed optimization and advertising optimization.And obviously many, you know, financial services. You know, many, many, many companies, many different sectors have been doing this. And so it's like one of these things, it's like, it's not a, it's not a single thing. Like it's, it's like, it's like layers, right? Yeah. Um, and, and the layers arrive at different paces and, but they kind of build up.swyx: Yeah.Marc: Uh, they kind of build up over time and then, and then, yeah. And then look, in retrospect, it was 2017 was kind of the, you know, the key, the key point with the trans transformer and then. And then as you guys know, there was this really weird like four year period where it's like the, the transformer existed and then it was just like,swyx: let's go.Yeah.Marc: Well, but, but it was just, but, but between 2020, but between 2017 and 2021, I mean, that was the era of which like companies like Google had internal chat Botts, but they weren't letting anybody use them.swyx: Yeah.Marc: Right. And then, you know, and then OpenAI developed Chat GT or GPT two, and then they told everybody, this is way too dangerous to deploy.Right. Yeah. You know, we can't possibly let normal people, normal people use this thing. And then you, you guys, I'm sure remember AI Dungeon, um mm-hmm. So the o for, there was like a year where like the only way for a normal person to use GP T three was in, in AI dungeon.Alessio: Yeah.Marc: And so you, you, we would do this, you'd go in there and you'd pretend to play Dungeons and Dragons.In reality, you're just trying to talk to talk to GPT. And so there was this, you know, there was this long, you know, and I, you know, the big, big companies, you know, big companies are cautious and, you know, the big companies were cautious. It, it, by the way, it took open ai. You know, they, they, they talk about this, it took open AI time to actually adjust, you know, kind of re redirect their researchswyx: path.I, I think, uh, let say Rosewood, right? Uh, the, the dinner that founded OpenAI was right there.Marc: Right, right. But that, that dinner would've taken place in 20swyx: 18Marc: 19. The formation of OpenAI Uhhuh as late as 2018.swyx: Uh, uh, sorry. Uh, no, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm wrong. Probably It should be 20. Yeah. They just celebrated a 10 year anniversary, so it it is 2025.Yeah, so, so 2015?Marc: Yeah. 2015. Yeah. 2015. But then, uh, um, Alec Radford did G PT one in what, probablyswyx: mm-hmm. 17, 18,Marc: yeah. 17, 18. So it, yeah. For, and then, and then they didn't really, and then GPT three was what? 2020? 2020.swyx: 2020.Marc: Because that became copilot immediately. Even open ai, which has been, you know, the leader of, of this thing in the last decade, you know, e even they had to adapt and, and, and lean into the new thing.And so. Um, yeah, I, I think it's just this process of basically sort of wave after wave layer after layer, you know, building on itself. And then you kind of get these catalytic moments where, where the whole thing pops and, and obviously that's what's happening now.swyx: Is it useful to think about will there be any ai, winter?‘cause there's always these patterns. Like, is this, in the summer is something I constantly think about because do I get, do I just like. Just get endlessly hyped and just trust that I will only be early and never wrong or right. Well, are we, will there be a winter?Marc: So there's something about, say the following.There's something about AI that has led to this repeated pattern. Um, and, and, and you guys know this,swyx: it's summer, winter, summer,Marc: winter, summer, winter, summer, winter. And it goes back 80 years. Yeah. 80 years. Uh, so the original neural network paper was 1943. Right. Which is, which is amazing. Uh, that it was, it was far back that long.And then there was you, if you guys have ever talked about this on your show, but there was this, uh, there was a big, uh, there was an a GI conference at Dartmouth University in 1950. 55. 55, yeah. And they got a NSF grant to, uh, for the, all the AI experts at the time to spend the summer together. And they figured if they had 10 weeks together, they could get a GI, uh, at the other end.And they got their, by the way, they got the grant, they got the 10 weeks and then, you know, 1955, you know. No, no. A GI. And like I said, I, I lived through the eighties version of this where there was a big, a big boom and a crash. And so, so there is this thing, and there, there is something about AI that causes the people in the field, I would say, to become both excessively utopian and excessively apocalyptic.Um, and, and it's probably on both sides of like the, the, the boom bus cycle. You, you kind of see that play out. Having said that, I think what's actually happened is like just, and you know, and we now know in retrospect like an enormous amount of technical progress that built up over time. And like for, for example, we now know that neural network is the correct architecture.And I, I will tell you like there was a 60 year run where that was like a, you know, or even 70 years or that was controversial. And, and we now know that that's the case. And so we, we now, you know, everything we're building on today just sort of derives from the original idea in 1943. And so, so in retrospect, we, we now know that like, these, these guys are right.They, they, you know, they would get the timing wrong and they thought, you know, capabilities would arrive faster, or they were, it could be turned into businesses sooner or whatever, but like, they were fundamentally, the, the scientists who worked on this over the course of decades were fundamentally correct about what they were doing.And, and the, and the payoff from, from, from all their work is happening now. And so, so the way I think about what's happening is basically, I think, I think about basically the, the, the period we're in right now is it's, I call it 80 year overnight success, right? Which is like, it's an overnight success.‘cause it's like bam, you know, chat, GPT hits and then, and then oh one hits, and then, you know, open claw hits and like, you know, these are open, these are, these are like overnight, like radical, overnight transformative successes, but they're drawing on an 80 year sort of wellspring backlog, you know, of, of, of, of ideas and thinking it's not just that it's all brand new, it's that it's an unlock of all of these decades of like very serious, hardcore research.Um, and thinking, and look, there were AI researchers who spent their entire lives. They got their PhD. They, they worked for, they've researched for 40 years. They retired in a lot of cases, they passed away and they never actually saw it work.swyx: Yeah. It's all sad.Marc: It is. It is sad. It's sad. Knewswyx: Jeff Hinton was like the last guy.Marc: Yeah. Yeah. Well, there were the guys, uh, was a guy, Alan Newell. I mean, there's tons of John McCarthy. You know, John McCarthy was like one of the inventors in the field. He's one of the guys who organized the Dartmouth Conference and you know, he taught at Stanford for 40 years. Wow. And passed, you know, passed away, I don't know, whatever, 10, 10 years ago or something.Never, never actually go. Got to see it happen. But like, it is amazing in retrospect, like, these guys were incredibly smart and they worked really hard and they were correct. So anyway, so then it's like, okay, you know, say history doesn't repeat, but it rhymes. It's like, okay, does that mean that there's gonna be another, like, you know, basically boom buzz cycle.And I, I will tell you, like, let, like in a sense, like yes, everything goes through cycles and, you know, people get overly enthusiastic and overly depressed and there's, there's a time, there's a timelessness to that. Having said that, there's just no question. Um, so the form, the foremost dangerous words in investing this time are, this time is different.Do you know the 12 most dangerous words investing? No. The four most d foremost dangerous words in investing are this time is different. Yeah. Um, the 12 most dangerous words. And so like, I'll tell you what's different. Like now it's working like, like there's just no, I mean, look, there's just no question.And by the way, I, I'll just give you guys my take. Like L LLMs, like from, from basically the Chad G PT moment through to spring of 25. I think you could still, I think well intention, well, and of. Form skeptics could still say, oh, this is just pattern completion. And oh, these things don't really understand what they're doing.And you know, the hall hallucination rates are way too high. And, you know, this is gonna be great for creative writing and creating, you know, Shakespeare and so sonnets and, you know, as, as rap lyrics or whatever, like, it's gonna be great and all that stuff, but we're not gonna be able to harness this to make this relevant in, you know, coding or in medicine or in law or in, you know, you know, kind of feels that, you know, kind of really, really matter.And I think basically it was the reasoning breakthrough. It, it was oh one and then R one that basically answered that question basically said, oh no, we're gonna be able to actually turn this into something that's gonna work in the real world. And, and then obviously the coding breakthrough over the, over basically the coding breakthrough that kind of catalyzed over the holiday break was kind of the third step in that.Mm-hmm. Where you're just like, alright, if, if, you know, if Linus Tova is saying that the AI coding is no better than he is like. Like, that's, that's never happened before. That's theswyx: benchmark.Marc: Yeah. That's never happened before. And so now we know that it's, it's gonna sweep through coding and, and then, and then we, we know, you know, we know that if it's gonna work in coding, it's gonna work in everything else.Right. It's just then, because that's, that's like, that's like, that's like the hardest in many ways. That's the hardest example. And how everything else is gonna be a, a derivative of that. And then on top of that, we just got the agent breakthrough, you know, with Open Claw, which is fantastic. Which is amazing and incredibly powerful.And then we just got the, the, um, the auto research, uh, you know, the, the self-improvement. You know, we're now into the self-improvement breakthrough. And so the, so the way I think about it is we've had four fundamental breakthroughs in functionality, l OMS reasoning, uh, agents, um, and then, uh, and, and then now RSI, um, and, and they're all actually working.Um, and so I'm, I'm just, as you like, you can tell I'm jumping outta my shoes. Like, like this is, like this is it like this, this is the culmination of 80 years worth of worth of work, and this is the time it's becoming real.Alessio: Yeah.Marc: I, I'm completely convinced.Alessio: I think the anxiety that people feel is like during the transistor era, yet Mors law, and it's like, all right, we understand why these things are getting better.We understand the physics of it. Yeah. With ai, it's. It's so jagged in like the jumps where like, like you said, it's like in three months you have like this huge jump like, and people are like, well this can keep happening. Right? But then it keeps happening,Marc: it'll keep happening.Alessio: And so like how do you think about also timelines of like what's we're building?I think we always have this question with guests, which is like, you know, should you spend time building harness for a model versus like the next model just gonna do it one shot in the lead space. Right. And how does that inform, like how you think about the shape of the technology? You know, you talk about how it's a new computing platform.If you have a computing platform, then like every six months it like drastically changes in what it looks like. It's hard to build companies on top of it.Marc: Yeah. So, so a couple things. So one is like, look, the, the Moore's law was what we now call a scaling law. Like Moore's Law was a scaling law and for your younger viewers, more Moore's Law was every chip chip chips either get twice as powerful or twice as cheap every, every 18 months.And that, and that and that, you know, that it's gotten more complicated in the last few years. But like that, that was like the 50 year trajectory of, of, of the computer industry. And then, and then by the way, and that's what took the mainframe computer from a $25 million current dollar thing into, you know, the phone in your pocket being, you know, a million times more powerful than that.Like that, you know, for, for 500 bucks. And so that, that was a scaling law. And then, and then, and then key to any scaling law, including Moore's Law and the AI scaling laws is, you know, they're not really laws, right? They're, they're, they're, they're predictions, but when they work, they become self-fulfilling predictions because they, they, they, they, they set a benchmark and, and then the entire industry, right?All the smart people in the industry kind of work to make sure that, that, that actually happens. And so they, they kind of motivate the breakthroughs that are required to, to keep that going. And, and in and in chips, that was a 50 year, that was a 50 year run. Right. And it, it was amazing. And it's still happening in, in some areas of, of chips.I think the same thing is happening with the, the core scaling laws. The core scaling laws. In, in, in ai, you know, they're, they're not really laws, but like they, they are basically. There are predictions and then they're motivating catalysts for the research work that is required to be. And, and, and, and by the way, also the investment, uh, dollars, um, uh, you know, required to basically keep, you know, keep the curves going and, and look, it, it is, it's gonna be complicated and it's gonna be variable and they're, you know, there're gonna be walls that are gonna look like they're fast approaching, and then they're gonna be, you know, engineers are gonna get to work and they're gonna figure out a way to punch through the walls.And obviously that's, you know, that's been happening a lot, you know, and then look, there's gonna be times when it looks like the walls have, you know, the, the, the laws have petered out and then they're gonna, they're gonna pick up again and surge and then, and then, and then it, it appears what's happening to the eyes is there's not multiple, you know, multiple scaling laws.Um, there's multiple areas of improvement. And, and I think, you know, I don't know how many more there are already yet to be discovered, but there are probably some more that we don't know about yet. You know, they, like, for example, there's probably some scaling law around, um, world models and robotics that we don't fully understand, you know, kind of acquisition of data at scale in the real world that we don't fully understand yet.So that, that, that one will probably kick in at some point here. There's a bunch of really smart people working on that. Um, and so, yeah, I, I think the expectation is that, that, you know, the, the scaling laws generally are gonna continue. Yeah. The, the pace of improvement will continue to move really fast.Um. To your question on like what to build. So, uh, I'm a complete believer the scaling laws are gonna continue. I'm a complete believer the capabilities are gonna keep getting amazing, um, you know, leaps and bounds. Uh, the part where I kind of part ways a little bit with how, what I would describe as the AI purists, um, you know, which is, which I would characterize as like the people who are.In many ways, the smartest people in the field, but also the people who spend their entire life, like at a lab, um, and have, have, I would say, have very little experience in the outside world. Um, the, the, the nuance I would offer is the outside world of 8 billion people and institutions and governments and companies and economic systems and social systems is really complicated.Um, and, um, and doesn't, you know, it it 8 billion people making collective decisions on planet Earth is not a simple process of like, just like you see this happening now. It's like a bunch of AI CEOs have this thing, which is just like, well, there's just this, they just all have this kind of thing when they talk in public where they're just like, well, there's these, these obvious set of things that so society to do.Alessio: Mm-hmm.Marc: And then they're like, society's not doing any of those things. Right. And it's like, how can society not, you know, what, whatever their theory is, how can society not see x, y, Z? Mm-hmm. And the answer is, well, society is number one. There's no single society, it's like 8 billion people. And they like all have a voice, and they all have a vote, like at the end of the day of how they, they react to change.And then, you know, it just like, it's just human reality is just really complicated and messy. Um, and, and, and so the specific answer to your question is like, as usual, it depends. Um, you know, it, it depends. Look, pe there's no question people are gonna, like, there's no question they're gonna be companies.It's already happening. There are companies that think that they're building value on top of the models and then they're just gonna get blissed by the, by the next model. There's no question that's happening. But I think there's no question also that just the process of adaptation of any technology into the real and into the real messy world of humanity is, is just going to be messy and complicated.It's, it's not going to be simple and straightforward. It's gonna be messy and complicated. And there are gonna be a lot of companies and a lot of products, um, uh, and in, in fact entire industries that are gonna get built to, to, to basically actually help all of this technology actually reach real people.Alessio: The amount of capital going into these companies, I mean, Dario talked about it on the Door Cash podcast and Door Cash was like, why don't you just buy 10 x more GPUs? And he is like, because I'm gonna go bankrupt if the model doesn't exactly hit the, the performance level. How do you think about that?Also as a risk on, you know, you guys are investors, open AI and thinking machines and world apps. It seems like we're leveraging the scaling loss at a pretty high rate, right? Like how comfortable, I guess, do you feel with the downside scenario, like, and say like things Peter out, you think you can kind of like restructure uh, these build outs and uh, you know, capital investments.Marc: Yeah. So should start by saying, so I live through the.com crash, um, and I can tell you stories for hours about the.com crash and it was horrible. No, it was awful. It was, it was, it was apocalyptic by the way. The, a lot of the.com crash was actually at the time, it was actually a telecom crash. It was a bandwidth crash.Like the, the thing that actually crashed, that wiped out all the money with the tele, the telecom companies.swyx: GlobalMarc: crossing. Global, global, yeah.swyx: I'm from Singapore and they, they laid so much cable o over over our oceans.Marc: Actually there was a scaling law in the.com. Era. And it was literally the, the US Commerce Department put out a report in 1996 and they said internet traffic was doubling every quarter.Um, and, and actually in 1995 and 1996, internet traffic actually did double every quarter. And so that became the scaling law. And so what all these telecom entrepreneurs did was they went out and they raised money to build fiber, anticipating that the demand for bandwidth is gonna keep doubling every quarter.Doubling every quarter though is like, you know, grains of chess and the chessboard, like at some point the numbers become extremely large. Right. And, and, and it really, and really what happened was the internet. The internet by the way, continuously kept growing basically since inception. And it's, you know, it's, it's continuously grown.It's never shrunk. And it's grown really fast compared to anything else. Mm-hmm. You know, in, in, in human history. But it wasn't doubling every quarter as of 19 98, 19 99. And so there was this gap in the expectation of what they thought was a scaling law versus reality. And that's actually what caused the.com crash, which was the, it they, they way over companies like global crossing way overbuilt fiber, which is sort of the, and by the way, fiber, telecom equipment, you know, so all the, all the networking gear, you know, and then, and then by the way, the actual physical data centers, like that was the beginning of the, of the, of the data center build and then, and the data center overbuild.And so you had that, but it was, it was literally, I think it was like $2 trillion got wiped out, right? It was like Jesus, it was like a big, it was. And by the way, the other, the other subtlety in it was the internet companies themselves never really had any debt. ‘cause tech, tech companies generally don't run on debt, but the telecom companies run on debt.Physical infrastructure companies run on debt. And so the companies like Global Crossing not just raise a lot of equity, they also raise a lot of debt. So they're highly levered. And so then you just do the thing. It's just like, okay, you have a highly levered thing where you're, you're just over, you're overbuilding capacity.Demand is growing, but not as fast as you hoped. And then boom, bankrupt. Right. And, and then it, and then it's like they say about the hotel industry, which is, it's always the third owner of a hotel that makes money. It has to go bankrupt twice, right? You have to wash out all of the over optimistic exuberance before it gets to actually a stable state.And then it makes money. So by the way, all of those data centers and all of those, all the fiber that they're in use, it's all in use today. Yeah. But 25 years later. But it, it, it took, and actually the elapsed time was, it took 15 years. It took 15 years from 2000 to 2015 to actually fill, fill up all that capacity.The cautionary warning is the, the overbuild can happen. Um, and, and, and, and, you know, you, you get into this thing where basically everybody, everybody who basically has any sort of institutional capital, it's like, wow. It's just, I, I don't know how to invest in these crazy software things. For sure I can put build data centers and for sure I can buy GPUs that I can deploy, you know, compute grids and, and all these things.Um, and so, you know, if you're a pessimist, you could look at this and you could say, wow, this is like really set up to be able to basically replicate, you know, what we went through, what we went through in 2000. Obviously that would be bad. The counter argument, which is the one I I agree with, which is the counter on, on the other side is a couple things.One is the companies that are investing all the, the companies that are investing the money are like the bluest chip of companies. And so back, back, back in the, in the do, like Global Crossing was like a, it was like an entrepreneur. It was like a, a new venture, but like the money that's being deployed now at scale is Microsoft, and, you know, and Amazon and Google, Facebook and Facebook and Nvidia and, you know, these, these, these, and, and now you know, by the way, open ai philanthropic, which are now at like, you know, really serious size, um, you know, as companies with, you know, very serious revenue.These are very large scale companies with like, lots, lots of cash, lots of debt capacity that they've, they've never used. And so th this is institutional in a way that, that really wasn't at the time. And then the other is, at least for now, every dollar that's being put into anything that results in a running GPU is being turned into revenue right away.Like so, and you guys know this, like everybody's starved for capacity, everybody's starved for compute capacity and then, you know, all the associated things, memory and, and, and interconnected and everything else. Um, data center space. And so e every dollar right now that's being put into the ground is turning into revenue.And, and it, and in fact, I actually think there's an interesting thing happening, which is because everybody starve for capacity, the models that we actually have that we can use today are inferior versions of what we would have if not for the supply constraints. That's true. Um, if Right pose a hypothetical universe in which GPUs were 10 times cheaper and 10 times more plentiful mm-hmm.The models would be much better. ‘cause you would just allocate a lot more money to training and you'd just build better models and they would be better. Um, and so we're, we're actually getting the sandbag version of the technology.swyx: Yeah. No. Everything we use is quantized because the, the labs have to keep the, the full versions,Marc: right?swyx: LikeMarc: we're not even getting the good stuff.swyx: Yeah.Marc: But, but getting the good stuff, it's, it's just, even if technical progress stops. Once there's like a much bigger build of like GPU manufacturing capacity and memory, you know, all, all the things that have to happen in the course of the next five or 10 years.Once it happens, even the current technology is gonna get, gonna get much better. And then as you know, like there's just like a million ways to use this stuff. Like there's just like a million use cases for this. Mm-hmm. Like, it, it, you know, this isn't just sending packets across a, a thing, whatever, and hoping that people find something to do with it.This is just like, oh, we apply intelligence into every domain of human activity. And then it works like incredibly well. Yeah. Um. Here's what I know, here's what I know. Um, in the next three or four year, it's like somewhere between three or four years out, basically everything is selling out. So like the, the entire supply chain is, is, is, is sold out or, or, or selling out.And so there, there's no, like, we're just gonna have like chronic supply shortage for, you know, for years to come. Um, there's going to be a response from the market that's gonna result in an enormous, you know, it's happening now. An enormous flood of investment in a new fab capacity and ev you know, every, everything else to be able to do that, at some point the supply chain constraints will unlock, you know, at least to some degree that will be another accelerant to industry growth when that happens.‘cause the products will get better and everything will get cheaper. Um, and so, so I know that's gonna happen. I know that, you know, the deployments, you know, the, the actual use cases are like really compelling. And then, like I said, you know, with reasoning and agents and so forth, like, I know they're just gonna get like much, much better from here.And so I, I, I know the capabilities are like really real and serious. I also know that the technical progress is not going to stop. It. It, it is excel. It is, is accelerating. Like the, the breakthroughs are are tremendous. I mean, even just month over month, the breakthroughs are really dramatic. And so, you know, I think if you were a cynic and there, there are cynics, you can look at 2000, you can find echoes.But I can't even imagine betting it that this is gonna like somehow disappoint and, you know, at least for years to come, I think it would be essentially suicidal to make that bet. Yeah. Um, it was that Michael Burry, uh, uh, that'sswyx: anMarc: interesting guy, huh? We'll pick on a guy. We'll pick, let's pick on one guy.We'll pick. Well ‘cause he did, he he came out with, it was, it was the, heswyx: doesn't mind.Marc: It was the Nvidia short. Right. He came with the Nvidia short. And then if you guys probably talked about this, which is the, the analysis now that like the current models are getting better faster at such a rate that if you are running an Nvidia, if you're running an Nvidia inference chip today, that's three years old, you're making more money on it today than you did three years ago because the pace of improvement of the software is, is faster than the, the, the depreciation cycle, the chip.And then my understanding is Google is running. I don't if they've, I don't know exactly what, uh, these are rumors that I've heard or maybe it's public, but, um, I think Google's running very old TPUs, very profitably. Ference. Yeah. And very profit and very profitably. Yeah. Um, and so, so it actually turns out, as far as I can tell, it's actually the opposite of the Beery thesis is actually.He was actually 180 degrees wrong. It's actually the, the, the, the old Nvidia chips are getting more valuable, which is something that's like literally never happened before. Like it's never been the case that you have an older model chip that becomes more valuable, not less valuable. And that, and again, that's an expression of the just ferocious pace of software progress.Ferocious pace of capability payoff. Yeah. Uh, that you're getting on the other side of this. And so I just, the idea of betting against that, like.swyx: Yeah. Yeah. Well, one ofMarc: my, it seems like an invitation to get your face ripped up.swyx: One of my early hits was like modeling the lifespan of the H 100 and h two hundreds and, and going like, you know, usually they advise like four to seven years and it was, you know, maybe you sort of realistically haircut cut it down to two to three.Yeah. But actually it's going up and not down. Yeah. And, and uh, that's, I mean that's, I think that's the dream. Uh, we are finding utilization and I think utilization solves all problems. Like, you can, you can find use, use cases for even like the poor, like even memory, we're having a shortage. Right. And, and even like the, the shittier versions of, of memory that we do have, we are finding use cases for it.So like That's great.Marc: Yeah.Alessio: How, how important is open source AI and kinda like edge inference in a world in which you have three years of supply crunch. Like, do you think in the, like, you know, if you fast forward like five years, like how do you think about inference, uh, in the data center versus at the edge?Marc: Well, so just to start, yeah. So I think, I think open source is very important for a bunch of reasons. I think edge, edge inference is very important for a bunch of reasons. I, I think just practically speaking, if we're just gonna have fundamental construc, supply crunches for the next, I mean, you, you guys know if you just project forward demand over the next three years, right?Yeah. Relative to supply, one of the, its main predictions you can do is what's gonna, what, what's gonna happen to the cost of, of inference in the core, uh, over the next three years? And like, it may rise dramatically, right? Like, so, so what is, and then is, is, you know, like the, the, the big model competition are subsidizing heavily right now.Right? Right. And so, so what's the, what will be the average person's, you know, per day, per month token cost, you know, three years from now to do all the things that they want to do. And I, I don't know, it's gonna. I mean, I have, you guys probably have friends, I have friends today who are paying a thousand dollars a day for open claw, for claw tokens to run open claw.Right? And so, okay. $30,000 a month. Right? And, and by the way, those, those friends have like a thousand more ideas of the things that they want their claw to do, right? Yeah. And so you, you could imagine there, there's like latent demand of up to, I don't know, five or $10,000 a day of, of, of tokens for a fully deployed, you know, per personal agent.Uh, and obviously consumers can't pay that, right? And so, so, but it gives you a sense of the fu of the fu of the future scope of demand, right? And so, so even, even if there's a 10 x improvement in price performance, that still, you know, goes to a hundred dollars a day, which is still way beyond what people can pay.Mm-hmm. So there's just gonna be like. Ferocious to me, by the way. The agent thing, the other interesting thing is I think the agent thing, so up until now, a lot of the constraints of GGPU constraints, I think the agent thing now also translates into CPU constraints. Mm-hmm. Right?swyx: CPU memory.Marc: Yes. CPU memory, right?And so, like the entire chip ecosystem is just gonna get wait,swyx: wait for network constraints, that that will be the killer.Marc: It's all bottleneck potentially for years. And so, so I, I think that Brad, and, and I think it's actually possible, I mean, generally inference costs are gonna keep coming down, but I think the, let's put it this way, the rate of decline, I think may level out here for a bit because of these supply constraints.And then at some point, maybe the lab stops subsidizing so much and that, that, that again, will be, be an issue. And so there's just gonna be so much more demand for inference than, than can be satisfied. Um, you know, kind of with the centralized model. And then, and then, you know, you guys know this, but like all the, just the dramatic, I mean just the dramatic innovations that have happened in the Apple silicon to be able to do, uh, inferences, it's quite amazing the level of effort being put.Like the open source guys are putting incredible effort into getting, you know, this recurring pattern where the big model will never run on a pc, and then six months later mm-hmm. Oh, it runs in a pc, right? It's like amazing. And there's very smart people working on that. So there's all that. And then look, there's also, you know.There's also like other, there's other motivators. There's other motivators which is just like, okay, how much trust are the big centralized model providers? You know, how much trust are they building in the market versus, you know, how much are, you know, at least for, in certain cases with some people, for certain use cases, people being like, well, I'm not willing to just like, turn everything over.So there, there, there's all the trust issues. Um, by the way, there's also just like straight up price optimization. There's many uses of AI where you don't need Einstein in the cloud. You just need like a, a a, a smart local model. There's also performance issues where you want, you know, you want, you know, you're gonna want your doorknob to have an AI model in it.Right. You know, to be able to, you know, do, um, you know, to be able to do access control. Um, obviously like everything with a chip is gonna have an AI model in it. Mm-hmm. And it, a lot of those are gonna be local. Um, and so, yeah. No, like I think, I think you're gonna have ti and then you're gonna, by the way, also wearable devices, you know, you don't wanna do a complete round trip.You want, you know, you, whatever your smart devices are, you want it to be like super low latency. Yeah.swyx: The question, do we care who makes it? Yeah. One of the biggest news this week was the collapse of AI two, the Allen Institute. Mm-hmm. One of the actual American open source model labs. Yeah. Um, and, uh, I'm not that optimistic on, on American open source.Yeah. Like you, you guys invested in MIS trial and MIS trial's doing extremely well outside of China. That's about it.Marc: Yeah. We'll see. We'll see. I look, I, number one, I do think we care. Uh, I do think we, I do think we care who makes it. Um, I would say this, the, the, the, the previous presidential administration wanted to kill it in the us Oh yeah.They wanted to drown in the bathtub. Um, and so they wanted to kill it. So at least we have a government now that actually like, actually wants it wants it to happen. And youswyx: earned to councilMarc: and Yeah. And the new and the P pcast. Yeah. So the, the, you know, this admin for whatever other political issues people have, which are many, you know, this administration has, I think a very enlightened view and in particular an enlightened view on AI and in particular on open source ai.Uh, and so they're very supportive. Um, my read is the Chi. The Chinese have a very, the various Chinese companies have a very specific reason to do open source, which is, they, they, they don't fundamentally, they don't think they can sell commercial, uh, AI outside of China right now. And or at least specifically not, not in the US for a combination of reasons.And so they, they kind of view, I think, open source AI as a bit of a loss leader against basically domestic, uh, you know, paid, paid services. And then kind of an, you know, kind of an ancillary products. You know, they're, they're very excited about it, by the way. I think it's great. I think it's great that they're doing it.Um, you know, I think Deeps seek was like a gift to the world. Um, I think. The great thing about open source, open source, the, the, the impact of open source is felt two ways. One is you, you get the software for free, but the other is you get to learn how it works, right? And so like the paper, the paper, the paper and, and the code, right?And the code. And so, like, for example, I thought this was amazing. So open comes out with L one and it's an amazing technical breakthrough, and it's just like, absolutely fantastic. But of course they don't explain how it works in detail. And then of course they hide the, they hide the reasoning traces, right?And, and then, and then, and then everybody's like, okay, this is great, but like, who's gonna be able to replicate this? Are other people gonna be able to do this? You know, is their secret sauce in there? And then our one comes out and it's just like, there's the code and there's the paper, and now the whole world knows how to do it.And then, you know, three months later, every other AI model is, is adding reasoning. And so, so you get this kind of double, like even if the Chinese models themselves are not the models that get used, the education that's taken place to the rest of the world, the information diffusion, you know, is incredibly powerful.So that happens and then, I don't know. We'll, we'll see. You know, there are a bunch of American, you know, open source, you know, ai, uh, model companies. I mean, look, there's gonna be tremendous, you know, there already is. There's, you know, there's gonna be tre there's tremendous competition, uh, among the primary model companies.You know, there's, depending on how you count, there's like four or five, you know, big co model companies now that are, you know, kind of neck and neck, uh, in different ways. Um, uh, you know, and, and, and, um, you know, and then obviously Bo Bo both X and then MetAware involved are, you know, both have huge, you know, huge attempts to, you know, kind of, to kind of leapfrog underway.And then you've got, you know, a whole fleet of startups, new companies, including a whole bunch that we're backing, that are, you know, trying to come out with different approaches. And then you've got whatever it is. I don't know how, how many, how many, like main line foundation model companies are there in China at this point?It's probably six. It'sswyx: five Tigers is what they call it. Yeah. Uh, Quinn is in questionable because there's change in leadership,Marc: right?swyx: Yeah.Marc: But that, does that include, that includes like Moonshot,swyx: yes. Can deep seek, uh, uh, ZI, um, Quinn oh one is in there.Marc: Right. And then, um, and by dance and, and then you see,swyx: ance would be like the next tier ance.They weren't as prominent. They weren't, didn't haveMarc: a leading. Yeah. But they, you at least, you know, ance is very inspiring and presumably they have more stuff coming and Tencent probably has more stuff coming and, and so forth. And so, so, so like, look, here, here would be a thing you can anticipate, which is there are not these markets, there are not going to be between the US and China right now, there's like a dozen primary foundation model companies that are like at scale, at, at some level of a critical mass.It's not gonna be a dozen in three years, right? Like, it just because these industries don't bear a dozen, it's, it's gonna be three or you know, there's gonna be three or four big winners or maybe one or two big winners. And so there's gonna be like a whole bunch of those guys that are gonna have to figure out alternate strategies.Um, and I think like open source is one of those strategies. And so I, I think you could see like a whole, i, I, I think the questions like, who's gonna do open source? I think that could change really fast. I, I think that, that, that's a very dynamic thing. I think it's very hard to predict what happens. And, and I think it's very important.swyx: NVIDIA's doing a lot.Marc: Well, I was gonna say. Well, exactly. And then you're got Nvidia and then, and then, you know, just to, again, indu, there's an old thing in business strategy, which is called, uh, commoditize Compliments. Commoditize the compliment. That's right. And so if your Jensen is just kind of obvious, of course, you wanna commoditize the software.Yeah. And he's, and to his enormous credit, he's putting enormous resources behind that. And so maybe it, maybe it's literally Nvidia and I think that would be great.Alessio: Yeah. Uh, narrative violation to European projects, uh, in the, uh, damn.swyx: I'm hosting my, uh, Europe, uh, conference soon. And I got both of them.Alessio: They got us.They got us. MarkMarc: finished. They got us, us. Well, wait a minute. Where was Peter? So where was Steinberger when he did? In AustriaAlessio: was, yeah, yeah, yeah.Marc: He was in what? He was in Vienna. Oh, he was in Vienna. And then where is he now?swyx: Uh, he's moving to sf.Marc: Okay. Okay. Alright. Okay, there we go. And then, yeah, the PI guy, right?The PI guys are European.swyx: Yeah, they're also, they're buddies inAlessio: Australia. Mario's also there. Yeah.Marc: Right. And are they, yeah, they haven't announced yet. Any sort of change changed or have theyAlessio: No, they're, they have a company there.Marc: Okay. Got, okay. Good.Alessio: Good, good,good.Alessio: Um,Marc: yeah, good.swyx: Anyways, I think pie and open cloud very important software things and, and I just wanted you to just go off on what you think.Marc: Yeah. So I think in co the, the combination of the two of them I think is one of the 10 most important softwares. Openswyx: Claw got all the attention, but Right. Talk about pie,Marc: pi pie's, kind of the Yeah. PI's, PI's kind of the architectural breakthrough for those of us who are older. There was this whole thing that was very important in the world of software basically from like 1970 to, I don't know, it still is very important, but like 19, from 1973 to like basically the creation of Linux, which is basically this, this thing used to call like the Unix mindset.Like so, so, ‘cause there were all these different, you know, theories. There are all these different operating systems and mainframes and, and then you know, all these windows and Mac and all these things. And then there was this, but kind of behind it all was this idea of kind of the Unix mindset. And the Unix mindset was this thing where basically you don't have these, like, like in the old days, like, like the operating system that like made the computer industry really work, like in the 1960s mm-hmm.Was this thing called o os 360, which was this big operating system that IBM developed that was supposed to basically run everything. And it was this like giant monolithic architecture in the sky. It was like a, you know, it was like a giant castle. Um, of software. And, and by the way, it worked really well and they were very successful with it.But like, it was this huge castle in the sky, but it was this thing, it was almost unapproachable, which is like, you had to be kind of inside IBM or very close to IBM. And you had to really understand every aspect, how the system worked. And then the, the Unix sky is originally out of at and t and then out out of Berkeley, um, you know, came out and they said, no, let's have a completely different architecture.And the way architecture's gonna work is we're gonna have, we're gonna have a, a prompt and, and a, and a shell. And then, and then we're gonna, all, all the functionality is gonna be in the form of these discreet modules, and then you're gonna be able to chain the modules together. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And so like the, the, the op, it's almost like the operating, operating system itself is gonna be a programming language.Um, and then that led led to the, the, the sort of centrality of the shell. Um, and then that led to sort of, uh, you know, basically chaining together Unix tools. And then that led to the emergence of these, these scripting languages like Pearl, where you, you could basically kind of very easily do this, and then the shells got more sophisticated and then, and then, and then look like, you know, that, that, that number one, that worked and that, that was the world I grew up in.Like I was, I was a Unix guy. You know, sort of from, call it 1988 to, you know, kind of all, all the way through my work and it worked really well. It, it's in the background, um, you know, nor normal people don't need to, didn't need to necessarily know about it, but like, if you were doing like system architecture, application development, you, you, you knew all about it.Um, and then, you know, it's been in the background ever since. And, you know, look, your Mac still has a Unix shell, you know, kind of in there, and your iPhone still has a Unix shell kind of buried in there somewhere. So they're kind of in there. And then, you know, the Windows shell is kind of a, you know, sort of a weird derivative of that.But, um, you know, but look, the inter, the internet runs on Unix, um, and that smartphones, actually, both iOS and Android are Unix derivatives. And so, you know, kind of Unix did end up winning. But, but anyway, and then we just started taking that for granted. And then, and then so, so basically the, the way I think about what happened with Pie and then with Open Claw is basically what those guys figured out is, I always say the, the great breakthroughs are obvious in retrospect, right?Which is the best kind, the best kind. They weren't obvious at the time or somebody else would've done them already. Um, and so there is a, like a real conceptual leap, but then you look at it sort of the backwards looking and you're just like, oh, of course. Mm-hmm. Like the, the, to me those are always the best breakthroughs.Well, actually language models themselves are like that. It's just like, oh, next token completion. Oh, of course.swyx: Yeah. What other objective mattered?Marc: Yeah, exactly. But, but like it, right. But she's even saying it wasn't obvious until somebody actually did it. Right. And so the conceptual breakthrough is real and deep and powerful and, and very important.And so the way I think about pie and olaw is it's basically marrying the, the language model mindset to the un to the Unix, basically shell prompt mindset. And so it's, it's basically this idea that what, what, so what is an agent, right? And as, as, and as you know, like many smart people who have been trying to figure out what an agent is for, for, for decades, and they've had many architectures to build agents and the whole thing.And it turns out what is an agent. So it turns out what we now know is an agent is the following. It's, so it's a language model. And then above that, it's a ba, it's a bash shell. Um, so it's a, it's a Unix shell, and then it's, and then the agent has access, uh, has access to, to the shell. And, you know, hopeful, hopefully in a sandbox, maybe in, maybe in a sandbox.So it's, it's the model. Um, it's the shell. Um, and then it's a fi, it's a file system. Um, and then the state is stored in files. And then, you know, there's the markdown format for the, you know, for, for the files themselves. And then, and then there's basically what in Unix is called Aron job. There's a loop and then there's a heartbeat for the, there's heartbeat and, and the thing basically Wake Wakes up.Wakes up. So it's basically LLM plus shell, plus file system, plus markdown, plus kron. And it turns out that's an agent. And, and, and every part of that, other than the model is something that we already completely know and understand. And in fact, it turns out that like the latent power of the Unix shell is like extraordinary because basically like all, like, there's just like an, there's just enormous latent power in the shell.There's enormous numbers of Unix commands, there's enormous number of command line interfaces into all kinds of things already in the, you know, your entire, I mean your entire, just to start with, your computer runs on a shell. If you're running a Mac or a, or, or a phone, your computer, your computer's running on a shell, uh, already.And so like the full power of your computer is available at the command line level. Um, and then it turns out it's really easy to expose other functions as a command line interface. And so like this whole idea where we need like MCP and these like product mm-hmm. Fancy protocols, whatever, it's like, no, we don't, we just need like a command, command line thing.So that's the architecture. And then it turns out what is your agent? Your agent has a bunch of files starting a file system. And then there's the thing that just like completely blew my mind when I write my head around it as a result of this, which is like, okay. This means your agent is now actually independent of the model that it's running on.Because you can actually swap out a different LLM underneath your agent and your, your agent will change personality somewhat. ‘cause the model is different, but all of the state stored in the files will be retained.swyx: Yeah. Different instruction set, but you just compiledit.Marc: Right, exactly. And it's all right.It's like right. Swapping out a ship and recompiling, but it's, it's still, it's still your agent with all of its memories. Um, and with all of its capabilities. And then by the way, you can also swap out the shell, uh, so you can move it to a different execution environment that is also, is also a b shell, by the way, you can also switch out the file system, right.Uh, and you can, and you can, and you can swap out the, the, the heartbeat for the, the crown framework, the, the loop that the agent framework itself. And so your agent basically is ba basically at the end of the day, it's just. It's just, its files. Um, and then, and then there's of course it a openswyx: call.Marc: Yeah, it's, it's basically, it's, it's just the files.Um, and then by the way, as a consequence of that, the agent and then the agent itself, it turns out a couple important things. So one is it, it's, it, it can migrate itself, right? And so you're, you can instruct your agent, migrate yourself to a different, uh, runtime environment, migrate yourself to a different file system, migrate yourself to a different, you know, swap out the language model.Your agent will do all that stuff for you. And then there's the final thing, which is just amazing, which is the agent is the agent actually has full introspection. It actually, it actually knows about its own files and it could rewrite its own files. Right. Which by the way, is basically no widely deployed software system in history where the, the, the thing that you're using actually has full introspective knowledge of how it itself works and is able to modify itself.Like that, that, I mean, there have been toy systems that have had that, but there, there's never been a widely deployed system that has that capability and then that leads you to the capability. That just like completely blew my mind when I wrap my head around it, which is you can tell the agent to add new functions and features to itself and it can do that.Extend yourself. Yeah. Right? Extend, extend yourself. Like extend yourself. Give yourself a new capability. Right? And so, and so literally it's just like you run into somebody at a party and they're like, oh, I have my open claw, do whatever, connect to my eat, sleep bed, and it gives me better advice and sleep.And you go home at night and you tell your claw, or if they're at the party, by the way, you tell your claw, oh, add this capability to yourself. And your claw will say, oh, okay, no problem. And it'll go out on the internet and it'll figure out whatever it needs and then it'll go out to claw code or whatever.It'll write whatever it needs. And then the next thing you know, it has this new capability. And so you don't even have to, like, you can have it upgrade itself without even having to, without having to do anything other than tell it that you want it to do that. And so anyway, so the, the combination of all this is just, I mean, this is just like a massive, incredible, I mean, it's just incredible.Like if I, if I were, if I were 18, like this is a hundred, this is what I would be spending all of my time on. This is like such an incredible conceptual breakthrough. Yeah. And again, pe people are gonna look at it and they already get this response. People are gonna look at it and they're gonna say, oh, well, where's the breakthrough?‘cause these, the, all of these components were already known before. Mm-hmm. But, but this is the key, the key to the breakthrough was by using all these components that were known before, you get all of the underlying capability of that's buried in there. And so all, and so for example, computer use all of a sudden just kind of falls, trivi, trivial.Of course it's gonna be able to use your computer. It has full access to the shell. Right. And then, and then you just, you, you give it access to a browser, and then you've got the computer and the browser and, and often away it goes. And, and then you've got all the abilities of the browser also. Um, yeah.And so, and so the capability unlock here is profound. My friends who are, you know, deepest into this, are having their claw do like a, like, literally like a thousand things in their lives. They have new ideas every day. They're just like constantly throwing new challenges at the thing. And by the way, it's early and, you know, these are, you know, these are prototypes and there are, you know, as you guys know, there's security issues.Yeah. And, and so, you know, there's a bunch of stuff to be ironed out, but the, the unlock of capability is just incredible.swyx: Yeah.Marc: And I, I have absolutely no doubt that everybody in the world is gonna, is gonna have at least, you know, an agent like this, if not an entire family of agents. And w

First Person with Wayne Shepherd

Master calligrapher Tim Botts is Wayne Shepherd's guest, talking about his approach to the creation of his art and the inspiration he finds in God's Word.  (Click for more...)Website:  www.TimBottscalligraphy.comThis week we feature Christian artist and master calligrapher Timothy Botts, who has spent decades expressing Scripture through colorful calligraphy and visual art. Botts explains how his work is deeply inspired by the words of the Bible, combining his training in graphic design with his love for God's Word to visually communicate its meaning rather than simply decorate it. Influenced by music, early encouragement from teachers, and artistic exposure during missionary work in Japan, he developed a distinctive style that brings together art, worship, and communication. Botts also reflects on the role of visual art in the church, encouraging congregations to value and support artists as part of gospel ministry. Through initiatives such as the Masterpiece Arts Camp, he mentors young creatives, helping them discover how their artistic gifts can honor Christ and impact others. Ultimately, Botts sees his work as a form of meditation on Scripture—creating “word pictures” that allow the message of the Bible to move from the page to the heart.                               NEXT WEEK:  Matt Davis, Ministry TransitionsSend your support for FIRST PERSON to the Far East Broadcasting Company:FEBC National Processing Center Far East Broadcasting CompanyP.O. Box 6020 Albert Lea, MN 56007Please mention FIRST PERSON when you give. Thank you!

St. Michael's Anglican Church - Waukesha County, WI

The Botts share about their time in the Solomon Islands.

Harold's Old Time Radio
The Bishop and the Gargoyle 1940-07-14 The Jennifer Botts Case

Harold's Old Time Radio

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 17, 2025 28:18 Transcription Available


The Bishop and the Gargoyle 1940-07-14 The Jennifer Botts Case

Blair Technique Podcast
Modernizing Sports Medicine and Concussion Care with Dr. Thomas Bottiglieri

Blair Technique Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 5, 2025 55:32


In this engaging conversation, Dr. Thomas Bottiglieri (aka. Doc Botts) shares his journey from sports medicine to research, emphasizing the importance of understanding the autonomic nervous system and its impact on athletic performance and recovery. The discussion covers the challenges of youth sports specialization, the integration of innovative practices like EMDR and heart rate variability biofeedback, and the significance of teamwork and trust in healthcare. Dr. Botts reflects on his personal experiences with meditation and concussions, offering valuable insights for young clinicians navigating their careers in a complex healthcare landscape.Resources:https://www.docbotts.com/Doc Botts on IG: @docbottsnyDr. Stenberg on IG: @zenith_chirohttps://www.zenithchiroco.com/

Skid Steer Nation
Michael Botts: Firing Your First Employee & Leveling Up as a Leader

Skid Steer Nation

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 4, 2025 64:29


What pivotal moment—and painful lesson—transformed Michael Botts into a truly legitimate business owner and leader?In this latest episode of the Skid Steer Nation Podcast, Ryan Deemer explores Michael Botts' journey of building Botts Grading in North Carolina. From his early days in hotshot trucking to the pivotal challenge of firing his first employee and the profound self-reflection that followed, Michael shares how he built a strong and resilient business. Filled with practical advice and real-world examples, this episode is designed to help you strengthen your business foundation and grow with purpose.Key Insights:✅ From Hotshot to Heavy Equipment: Discover how Michael used hotshot trucking to acquire the necessary equipment to launch Botts Grading, demonstrating resourcefulness in the early stages of business. ✅ The Tough Lesson of First Hires: Michael shares his candid experience of firing his first employee just two months in, highlighting how this difficult decision became a catalyst for him to legitimately learn about running a business and setting clear expectations for others. ✅ Strategic Naming for Brand Identity: Learn why Michael intentionally chose "Botts Grading" over a broader name like "land management," focusing on establishing a clear brand identity and expertise in dirt work. ✅ Transparent and Detailed Estimates: Michael explains his disciplined approach to estimating, breaking down costs and providing itemized estimates to residential and commercial clients for transparency and to avoid common financial pitfalls. ✅ Faith and Business Parallels: Gain a unique perspective on how Michael connects his faith to his business, highlighting the importance of commitment, going "all in," and the belief that growth requires continuous effort, similar to spiritual growth.Why This Episode Matters:This episode is essential for excavation and land service business owners who are striving to build a profitable and sustainable company. Whether you're navigating challenges with hiring, refining your branding, or looking to improve your sales process, the practical insights shared by Michael Botts will equip you with the tools you need to succeed.

The Hairdresser Strong Show
Community Conversations: Real Talk - Why Shadowing is a Game-Changer | Jenae Botts | Recent Graduate | Aveda Arts & Sciences Institute Arlington

The Hairdresser Strong Show

Play Episode Listen Later May 5, 2025 30:09 Transcription Available


The Tara Show
Dems Claim Russian Botts Again

The Tara Show

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2024 1:00


Dems Claim Russian Botts Againhttps://www.audacy.com/989wordThe Tara Show Follow us on Social MediaJoin our Live StreamWeekdays - 6am to 10am Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/989wordRumble: https://rumble.com/c/c-2031096X: https://twitter.com/989wordInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/989word/ "Red Meat, Greenville." 07/26/24 

Pet Sitter Confessional
507: Hospitality and Heart with Ken Botts

Pet Sitter Confessional

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2024 60:26


Does hospitality translate from restaurants to pet care? Ken Botts, owner of Creekside Critters Pet Sitters, shares his journey into the world of pet care. He discusses the importance of community engagement, effective hiring practices, and the parallels between providing excellent service in restaurants and pet sitting. Ken emphasizes the role of heart-driven hospitality in building trust with both human clients and their furry companions. Main topics: Transition from food service Importance of hiring practices Community engagement strategies Marketing and brand presence Leadership and team management Main takeaway: Every interaction counts, from the smallest pet to the largest, it's all about heart-driven service. About our guest: My life's mission has always been to help make the world a better place. For the first 35 years of my life, I did that working in the food service industry. Like many in the food service business, I got my start washing dishes - the most important job in the kitchen. Over the years I worked my way up the ranks by managing restaurants, developing training programs, designing concepts, creating process improvement programs, leading marketing and sustainability initiatives, and owning two world famous cafes. Little did I know, my career in food service would allow me to make an impact on such a large scale. As the Special Projects Manager for Dining Services at The University of North Texas, I helped open the Nation's first vegan dining hall on a university campus. With national attention on the success of the vegan dining hall, I was recruited by the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS). There I created an international culinary training program and helped institutional food service operators develop menus, design concepts, and create training programs focused on plant-based menus and taking animals off the plate. During my time with HSUS, I became very interested in animal welfare issues. I traveled internationally and often spoke at conferences about the connection between our food choices and animal welfare issues. In 2020 I decided to leave the food service and give my full attention to caring for animals and started Creekside Critters Pet Sitters. My business allows me to give pet parents peace-of-mind, and bring happiness to their pets while their parents are away. It also allows me to create fun and meaningful jobs in the communities that we serve. When I am not taking care of animals or developing an awesome team of pet sitters, I enjoy spending time at home with my beautiful wife, Saundra, being involved with my church, volunteering in the community, and hanging out with my three orange cats. You will often find me on my bike going the distance with hopes of someday riding across America or relaxing on the back porch with a cup of my favorite coffee. Links: Website: creeksidecritters.com One Minute Manager: https://amzn.to/4cHxPiU On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/creekside-critters-pet-sitters/ Give us a call! (636) 364-8260  Follow us on: Instagram, Facebook, Twitter Email us at: feedback@petsitterconfessional.com Full show notes and transcript   Sponsored by: ❤️ Our AMAZING Patreon Supporters  Time to Pet Visit: https://timetopet.com/confessional Code: 50% off first 3 months Pet Perennials Visit: https://petperennials.com/pages/register-for-a-business-account Code: 'PSC' when registering for a $2 off coupon on any purchases in the 1st 90 days

Financial Freedom for Physicians with Dr. Christopher H. Loo, MD-PhD
#897 - Unleashing Your Inner Success: Conversations with Michael Botts

Financial Freedom for Physicians with Dr. Christopher H. Loo, MD-PhD

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2024 23:47


Join us for an inspiring episode of "Unleashing Your Inner Success" as we sit down with Michael Botts, success coach, best-selling author, and keynote speaker. Michael shares his unique insights on bridging the gap between potential and achievement. Discover how embracing the philosophy of "LEARN AS YOU GO" can revolutionize your path to success. Michael delves into his personal journey from a Presidential Guard to a successful entrepreneur and mentor. Tune in to hear real-life stories of transformation, practical strategies for business growth, and the power of resilience. Whether you're a business owner, a university student, or simply someone striving for greatness, this episode will equip you with the tools to overcome doubt, ignite your confidence, and sprint towards your destiny with boldness and determination. Don't miss out on Michael's expert advice on goal achievement, motivation, and thriving in both personal and professional spheres. Subscribe now and be part of the success revolution! Disclaimer: Not advice. Educational purposes only. Not an endorsement for or against. Results not vetted. Views of the guests do not represent those of the host or show. Do your due diligence. Click here to join PodMatch (the "AirBNB" of Podcasting): https://www.joinpodmatch.com/drchrisloomdphd We couldn't do it without the support of our listeners. To help support the show: CashApp- https://cash.app/$drchrisloomdphd Venmo- https://account.venmo.com/u/Chris-Loo-4 Buy Me a Coffee- https://www.buymeacoffee.com/chrisJx Click here to schedule a 1-on-1 private coaching call: https://www.drchrisloomdphd.com/book-online Click here to purchase my books on Amazon: https://amzn.to/2PaQn4p Follow our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/chL1357 Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/drchrisloomdphd Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thereal_drchrisloo Follow us on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@thereal_drchrisloo Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@drchrisloomddphd Follow the podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3NkM6US7cjsiAYTBjWGdx6?si=1da9d0a17be14d18 Subscribe to our Substack newsletter: https://substack.com/@drchrisloomdphd1 Subscribe to our Medium newsletter: https://medium.com/@drchrisloomdphd Subscribe to our email newsletter: ⁠https://financial-freedom-for-physicians.ck.page/b4622e816d⁠ Subscribe to our LinkedIn newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=6992935013231071233 Join our Patreon Community: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=87512799 Join our Spotify Community: ⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/christopher-loo/subscribe⁠ Thank you to our advertisers on Spotify. Financial Freedom for Physicians, Copyright 2024

Hot Mess Hotline
Is Your Tech Team Accountable for Action or Outcomes with Jason Botts

Hot Mess Hotline

Play Episode Listen Later May 17, 2024 43:06


Are you accountable for action or outcomes? Jason Botts is an innovative, results-driven technology leader who creates high-performing teams. He is passionate about creating tech transformation that actually matters to its companies, customers, and stakeholders.  We discussed why benchmarks aren't good enough and how trust and listening can solve even the worst tech disasters. Listen to this episode where Jason shares one of the worst days on the job – only 90 days after an ERP implementation with some 3 a.m. trust building. About Jason Botts: With over two decades of experience, Jason helps realize key performance objectives for businesses large and small by partnering with business leaders and key stakeholders to capture synergies that result in operational excellence and effectiveness. He brings extensive IT operational and strategic experience from many industries, including life science, high tech / fintech and construction. His background includes transforming and leading technology teams that have been repeatedly recognized by InformationWeek magazine as Elite 100 Innovators – from entrepreneurial startup / Fast 50 companies to the S&P 500. He has led diligence and post-transaction integrations for deals ranging from $10M to nearly $3B.Jason serves by appointment of the Governor to the North Carolina Board of Science, Technology and Innovation and was recently selected as a technology leader in Aspen Institute's Technology Executive Leadership Initiative (TELI). He holds a Master of Business Administration from UNC's Kenan-Flagler Business School and is a certified Project Management Professional (PMP). https://thechangearchitects.com/is-your-tech-team-accountable-for-action-or-outcomes-with-jason-botts

The Power of Investing in People with Sha Sparks
Are You Enough with Michael Botts

The Power of Investing in People with Sha Sparks

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2023 56:22


Have you ever felt like you have had your heart ripped open? I mean, like, literally ripped open? Well, and figuratively too. Well, our guest today has experienced both figuratively and literally.  Michael Botts is a United States Marine Veteran, a father of four, a 20-year business owner. There were many failures, epic failures, and through those failures, Michael created a success formula his clients use to reach their goals in spirit, soul, and body. We invite you to connect with him at www.themichaelbottsexperience.com __________ The Shā Sparks Show - We talk with Business & Military Leaders about what it means to invest in Leadership, Relationships & Self Love.  Ever feel like an imposter? Or maybe even like you are no longer fired up about life like you're living on a hamster wheel repeating the motions daily?   Shā Sparks is an energetic catalyst and fearless communicator who sparks leaders to find, use, and share their voice through coaching, podcasts, and publications so they can go from fear to fired up about their life and business.   Through her renowned Spark Your ALPHA program, Shā's audiences and clients experience more confidence, amplified emotional intelligence, and the spark that ignites their fearless action. Also, she provides an all-inclusive host for hire, a podcast-in-a-box service called Spark Your VOICE, Podcasts to Publications.  As the CEO (Chief Excitement Officer) of Sparks of Fire International, she hosts multiple podcasts along with her signature podcast called The Sha Sparks Show along with being a host of Real Talk and co-host of UnderWired on United Network News. She is also the author of How to Get Your Voice Back, a Certified Fearless Living Coach and Trainer, and the Co-Founder of the FIRESTARTERS Book Project.  “Auntie Shā-Shā” to all of her friends' kids, she is also an expert sunrise phone photographer and a rookie kayaker. Most importantly, Shā wants to inspire others to move confidently through change so they can step into their FIRE power!  You are invited to connect with Shā at www.shasparks.com www.theshasparksshow.com www.unitednetwork.tv   This episode is sponsored by www.firestartersbookproject.com www.heroesmediagroup.com www.ulauniverse.comuse discount code SPARKS10  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Slow Money Blues
616 BOT INVASION

Slow Money Blues

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 29, 2023 8:57


Do you have a system in place that requires maximum time, energy, and effort? If you answered yes…the cure are BOTSS. What exactly are BOTTS?  BOTTS means “Build Optimized Time Saving Systems.”   LET'S GET PERSONAL BOTSS have a been here for quite some time.  Anytime we can set and forget any device or process without human interaction that is a bot.  Think of them like little helpers that need adult supervision.  However, after programmed they might decide they are in charge…or are they?  Watch live each Tuesday on Youtube from 9:30-10AM EST to unhack this episode.  See you on the inside...Doug!   TAKE THE POLL https://SlowMoneyBlues.com/Poll   MAIN POINT(S) 3 Ways Maximize Bots   TAKE-AWAYS BOTSS multiplies and maximizes time while minimizing effort.   HOMEWORK Tune into next week's episode.   JOIN our Facebook Group to access: FREE Business Plan, Marketing Plan, Template(s), The Branding Formula and FREE https://LIINKY.com account.   Get bonuses, take challenges, enter contests and giveaways below. https://SlowMoneyBlues.com/Win   Our Sponsors https://SlowMoneyBlues.com/Sponsors   To Your Success, Doug   PS. Today is a great day to be FREE! PS2. Rate us and write a review on Apple or Google podcast. PS3. Suggestions or questions?  Click HERE! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/slowmoneyblues/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/slowmoneyblues/support

Strictly the Worst Guild Ball Podcast
Live From Luigi's Mansion

Strictly the Worst Guild Ball Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 26, 2023 95:01


The annual pre Second Wind episode. We talk about the lists Nate and Botts are playing in the event, play back of the box, and draft models we think will be most popular in Second Wind rosters. As is tradition for live episodes, Pat's audio is pretty scuffed, sorry.  Recorded 10/20/23 Acquire Alfredo's widgets @ https://www.museonstore.com/products/size3tacotruck-widget-set-for-marvel-crisis-protocol?ref=SIZE3TACOS Join our discord and tell us why we're wrong at - https://discord.gg/FNVVvfzucm

Living the Dream with Curveball
Living the dream with former marine turned best-selling author Michael botts

Living the Dream with Curveball

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 16, 2023 16:36


Michael Botts, a best-selling author, imparts a profound message centered on resilience: "Falling down is allowed; getting up is required." He shares this mantra with diverse audiences and clients, drawing from his rich life experiences as a United States Marine, a devoted father of four, and a seasoned business owner of two decades. Through his own epic failures, Michael has crafted a potent success formula that empowers his clients to achieve their goals holistically, encompassing spirit, soul, and body. If you're interested in enjoying two weeks of complimentary coaching, please don't hesitate to email Michael.Email- Contact@themichaelbottsexperience.comBook- https://www.amazon.com/Escape-Average-Go-Big-Stopping/dp/1728839939/ref=sr_1_1?crid=373LH5IU48ONI&keywords=go+for+the+big+book+michael+botts&qid=1696461250&sprefix=%2Caps%2C117&sr=8-1Website- https://www.themichaelbottsexperience.comInstagram- https://instagram.com/goforthebig?igshid=OGQ5ZDc2ODk2ZA==

Living the Dream with Curveball
Living the dream with former marine turned best-selling author Michael botts

Living the Dream with Curveball

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 16, 2023 16:36


Michael Botts, a best-selling author, imparts a profound message centered on resilience: "Falling down is allowed; getting up is required." He shares this mantra with diverse audiences and clients, drawing from his rich life experiences as a United States Marine, a devoted father of four, and a seasoned business owner of two decades. Through his own epic failures, Michael has crafted a potent success formula that empowers his clients to achieve their goals holistically, encompassing spirit, soul, and body. If you're interested in enjoying two weeks of complimentary coaching, please don't hesitate to email Michael.Email- Contact@themichaelbottsexperience.comBook- https://www.amazon.com/Escape-Average-Go-Big-Stopping/dp/1728839939/ref=sr_1_1?crid=373LH5IU48ONI&keywords=go+for+the+big+book+michael+botts&qid=1696461250&sprefix=%2Caps%2C117&sr=8-1Website- https://www.themichaelbottsexperience.comInstagram- https://instagram.com/goforthebig?igshid=OGQ5ZDc2ODk2ZA==

Division 1 Rejects
D1R 98 - Trey Botts signing with the Ravens, NFL Draft Recap, D2 Free Agent Signings

Division 1 Rejects

Play Episode Listen Later May 2, 2023 58:52


Former All-American Colorado State-Pueblo DL Trey Botts joins the show after signing with the Baltimore Ravens. We shout out all the D2, NAIA, and D3 guys getting deals signed and invites to rookie minicamps. We also react to the Lion's draft and watch Duece Vaughn's dad help draft him to the Cowboys.

Strike Better Podcast
S4E06 - Malekith and Make Up with Alex Botts (and Omnus!)

Strike Better Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 18, 2023 97:34


This week the Strike Better team is joined by Omnus and Alex Botts, the Adepticon Runner Up! [00:01:00] News and Hot Takes: Adepticon Reveals [00:16:00] Inspiring Monologue [00:26:00] Superpower REVIEW!!!!: God of Mischief [00:35:00] Roster Talk/Deep Dive: Alex's Adepticon Run Omnus Protocl Podcast: https://podbay.fm/p/omnus-protocol-a-marvel-crisis-protocol-podcast Join the Strike Better Discord! https://discord.gg/DADG5yVve5

The Sober Mom Life
Sobriety is Not a Linear Journey with Mal Holcomb-Botts

The Sober Mom Life

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 27, 2023 47:44


When I spotted Malerie Holcomb-Botts's name in the Sober Mom Life Facebook group, I was blown away! I have been following her for years on Instagram, and I felt like we were already friends. Through major life changes, cross country (and ocean!) moves, and acute grief, Mal slowly came to realize that sobriety was the right choice for her. Her story serves as a great example that sobriety isn't always a straight path, and that questioning your relationship with alcohol is always a healthy choice, no matter where you are along your journey. I can't wait for you to meet Mal! Follow Mal on Instagram at @MalHBotts and @MaleriesCakerie! Please consider supporting The Sober Mom Life podcast by becoming a patron on Patreon! Learn more here: http://patreon.com/user?u=84021397Join The Sober Mom Life FB group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1542852942745657We have merch!!!!  Check it out here!Click here to follow The Sober Mom Life on InstagramLove this show? Let me know by rating and reviewing the show on Apple Podcasts! Check out our sister podcast, Brand New Information!

Brian and Trisha – Quicksie 98.3

Brian & Trisha get to meet Andy Botts from Severns Valley Baptist Church.

Hill Country Bible Church
The Sexual Body | Jim Botts

Hill Country Bible Church

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 12, 2023 44:34


Watch “The Sexual Body” here: https://youtu.be/_DzraePeko4 ABOUT THIS MESSAGE The sexual body was designed by God for His purpose; however, it's been distorted by sin for selfish ends. And, as we see in Scripture, sexual holiness is God's will for our body and life, which challenge's cultures view of sex. Find a time and attend service with us! https://www.hcbc.com/visit-us ABOUT HILL COUNTRY BIBLE CHURCH We are a community marked by God's grace and committed to sharing the good news of the gospel with those around us. CONNECT WITH US! Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HCBCAustin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hcbcaustin/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/hcbcaustin YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/hillcountrybiblechurch

Hill Country Bible Church
The Rested Body | Jim Botts

Hill Country Bible Church

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 22, 2023 45:21


Watch “The Rested Body” here: https://youtu.be/nkV4_f8REAQ ABOUT THIS MESSAGE Our culture is turning us into “busybodies,” where it's easy to not take time to honor the Sabbath. But Sabbath is important because it means resting in God's control and care, and resting in Jesus. How can you prioritize Sabbath in your weekly rhythm? Find a time and attend service with us! https://www.hcbc.com/visit-us ABOUT HILL COUNTRY BIBLE CHURCH We are a community marked by God's grace and committed to sharing the good news of the gospel with those around us. CONNECT WITH US! Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HCBCAustin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hcbcaustin/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/hcbcaustin YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/hillcountrybiblechurch

Hill Country Bible Church
Present Advent: Behold Your King | Jim Botts

Hill Country Bible Church

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 18, 2022 43:41


Watch “Present Advent: Behold Your King” here: https://youtu.be/Ol71BN3B3Eo ABOUT THIS MESSAGE God moves in moments that are all too easy to miss, if we don't pay attention. He came into the world in a moment of time, and He comes into our lives in a moment of time. Find a time and attend service with us! https://www.hcbc.com/visit-us ABOUT HILL COUNTRY BIBLE CHURCH We are a community marked by God's grace and committed to sharing the good news of the gospel with those around us. CONNECT WITH US! Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HCBCAustin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hcbcaustin/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/hcbcaustin YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/hillcountrybiblechurch

A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast
Evaluating Grip, Pinch Force and HVE Units with Stephanie Botts, RDH

A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 11, 2022 8:13


This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Stephanie Botts, RDH who is a clinical hygienist and ergonomic specialist. Today Stephanie talks to us about grip, pinch force, and the importance of evaluating our HVE unit and how we use it.    This TIPisode is sponsored by Air Techniques! Learn more about their products at https://www.airtechniques.com/en/  Stephanie Botts: https://www.posturepros.net/ 

Dental Marketing Theory - A Podcast by Gary Bird
#65 - Stephanie Botts - Bad Posture Leads to Early Retirement, Here's How to Fix it

Dental Marketing Theory - A Podcast by Gary Bird

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2022 36:11


PosturePros founder Stephanie Botts, RDH, stops by to talk with Gary about why so many dentists suffer ergonomic injuries while working, how to address the major risk factors, and why working with an ergonomic consultant can help dentists relieve pain and prolong their careers by a decade or more. //GUEST INFO: ⬇️ Stephanie Botts, RDH Owner, PosturePros Website: https://www.posturepros.net Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/stephanieposturepros Say hello to Stephanie! LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/posturepros/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/steph.posturepros/

AIN'T THAT SWELL
Blitzed: SACK-A-RIMMER with Supercoach Man Stew Botts and the King

AIN'T THAT SWELL

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 3, 2022 27:19


Andy King and Jay "Bottle" Thompson are the head performance super coaches for Surfing Australia and the masterminds behind the great Strayan Changaz push of 2022. With the second last Chang of the year currently underway in Saquarema, Brazil, 11 Aussies find themselves in contention for qualification on the 23 CT. So how did Botts and the King prepare our chargers to avoid the temptations of salted meats, frescobol in ya undies and packets that'll gurn ya jaw off ya skull, and keep their focus squarely on the job at hand? Smv and Deadly investigate.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hill Country Bible Church
Taking Responsibility | Jim Botts

Hill Country Bible Church

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 24, 2022 44:50


Watch “Taking Responsibility” here: https://youtu.be/CHVxJBAPieo ABOUT THIS MESSAGE Ours is a culture of avoiding personal responsibility for our choices. However, God holds us accountable for our choices. And personal responsibility is the pathway to personal transformation. So, consider how fully you own your accountability before God, your need for forgiveness from God, and your practice of repentance toward God as this is a part of following Jesus. Find a time and attend service with us! https://www.hcbc.com/visit-us ABOUT HILL COUNTRY BIBLE CHURCH We are a community marked by God's grace and committed to sharing the good news of the gospel with those around us. FIND US ON SOCIAL MEDIA Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HCBCAustin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hcbcaustin/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/hcbcaustin YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/hillcountrybiblechurch #atx #austin #encouragement #inspiration #responsibility #self #selfimprovement #selfhelp #faith #ezekiel #sermon #message #lesson #church

Hill Country Bible Church
The Glory Departed | Jim Botts

Hill Country Bible Church

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 9, 2022 50:19


Watch “The Glory Departed” here: https://youtu.be/8nE-3PgTY4w ABOUT THIS MESSAGE Our human tendency is to drift toward substitutes for God. Can you relate to this? However, God's guarantee is that He will not share His glory with another. And Jesus is the glory of God in person, so we should orient our life toward and around Him. Find a time and attend service with us! https://www.hcbc.com/visit-us ABOUT HILL COUNTRY BIBLE CHURCH We are a community marked by God's grace and committed to sharing the good news of the gospel with those around us. FIND US ON SOCIAL Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HCBCAustin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hcbcaustin/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/hcbcaustin YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/hillcountrybiblechurch

A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast
Keeping an Ergonomic Mindset with Stephanie Botts, RDH 

A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 7, 2022 8:47


This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Stephanie Botts, RDH who is a clinical hygienist and ergonomic specialist. Today Stephanie talks to us about putting ourselves first and keeping our health and functionality a priority focusing on ourselves and our environment. Spoiler: The products you use to clean your instruments play a role in your Ergonomics.    This TIPisode is sponsored by Air Techniques! Learn more about their products at https://www.airtechniques.com/en/ 

Whiskey, Jazz and Leadership
A Smooth Shot with Charles Botts, III (Part 2)

Whiskey, Jazz and Leadership

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 27, 2022 41:41


Charles Botts III and I discuss different leadership styles and how he chooses to lead as a servant leader. Charles longs for his leadership style to leave a legacy. He believes when you put effective work in, God will provide the outcome. Join me as we discuss our favorite leadership books, quotes, and coaching styles. For additional content and exclusives, become a VIP on Patreon Subscribe to our newsletter to find out more about our upcoming guests, jazz and whiskey favorites, and, updates from the show. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Linkedin @whiskeyjazzandleadership  #whiskey #jazz #Leadership #whiskeyjazzandleadership Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Texas HS Football Podcast with Taylor Arenz
Episode 10: Interviews with Austin Westlake's Jaden Greathouse, El Paso Eastlake Julian Melucci and Week 4 Fan Favorite Dillan Botts

Texas HS Football Podcast with Taylor Arenz

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 27, 2022 28:21


This week host Taylor Arenz talks rivalry games and interviews Austin Westlake's Jaden Greathouse  who helped lead Austin Westlake to their 44th win in a row in the Battle of the Lakes against Austin Lake Travis.  She also gets the scoop on the rivalry game out in  West Texas the El Paso Eastlake vs El Paso Americas that went down to the final seconds with Julian Melucci kicking the winning field goal. Finally get to know week four Fan Favorite winner Dillan Botts. 

Whiskey, Jazz and Leadership
A Smooth Shot with Charles Botts, III (Part 1)

Whiskey, Jazz and Leadership

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 20, 2022 31:30


A nationally recognized workforce development expert that has shared his insights across the country. In addition to his professional speaking career; Charles Botts III continues to lead a very interesting functional career life. Having worked in both the corporate and non-profit sectors. I am incredibly honored to have someone he has coached on the show. Charles speaks about the importance of Servant Leadership and the effects it can have on business. He also shares what a "Thought-prenuer" is. I am drinking Elijah Craig Small Batch What are you drinking? For additional content and exclusives, become a VIP on Patreon Subscribe to our newsletter to find out more about our upcoming guests, jazz and whiskey favorites, and, updates from the show. Follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and Linkedin @whiskeyjazzandleadership  #whiskey #jazz #Leadership #whiskeyjazzandleadership Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hill Country Bible Church
Loving Our Neighbors | Jim Botts

Hill Country Bible Church

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 18, 2022 56:13


Watch “Loving Our Neighbors” here: https://youtu.be/JS3aLr4mtm4 ABOUT THIS MESSAGE Hill Country Bible Church's fifth core value is “Loving Our Neighbors.” We live out God's design to love our neighbors by investing in the people around us, regardless of generation, culture, or ethnicity. The Good Samaritan exemplifies Jesus, showing the love of the Father to those nearby who need it most, but deserve it the least. Find a time and attend service with us! https://www.hcbc.com/visit-us ABOUT HILL COUNTRY BIBLE CHURCH We are a community marked by God's grace and committed to sharing the good news of the gospel with those around us. FIND US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HCBCAustin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hcbcaustin/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/hcbcaustin YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/hillcountrybiblechurch . #goodsamaritan #atx #austin #family #atxfamily #neighbor #love #share #listen #sermon #message #sunday

Hill Country Bible Church
Celebrating Life Change | Jim Botts

Hill Country Bible Church

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 4, 2022 47:21


ABOUT THIS MESSAGE: Hill Country Bible Church's third core value is “Celebrating Life Change.” Everything Jesus touched, He transformed, and that's worth celebrating. However, if we're not careful, religious entitlement can keep us for celebrating life change in others. This entitlement can also be a barrier to both experiencing and sharing God's love with others. Find a time and attend service with us! https://www.hcbc.com/visit-us ABOUT HILL COUNTRY BIBLE CHURCH: We are a community marked by God's grace and committed to sharing the good news of the gospel with those around us. FIND US ON SOCIAL MEDIA: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HCBCAustin Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hcbcaustin/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/hcbcaustin YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/hillcountrybiblechurch

A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast
TIPisode Reducing Repetitive Motion with Stephanie Botts, RDH

A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 12, 2022 6:14


This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Stephanie Botts, RDH who is a clinical hygienist and ergonomic specialist. Today Stephanie talks to us about repetitive use injuries and reducing repetitive motions that may cause injury.    This TIPisode is sponsored by Air Techniques! Learn more about their products at https://www.airtechniques.com/en/    Links   https://www.posturepros.net/    https://www.instagram.com/steph.posturepros/    https://www.facebook.com/stephanie.botts.rdh/    https://www.linkedin.com/in/posturepros/

BrushwithBritt
11. Stop Normalizing Pain in Dentistry with Stephanie Botts

BrushwithBritt

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 28, 2022 31:51


Having correct ergonomics is vital to having a successful healthy career as a dental hygienist. We may think practicing as a hygienist is easy on the body but it's actually the complete opposite. This is why on this week's episode, ergonomic expert herself, Stephanie Botts, BSDH, RDH, CEAS takes us through her journey and how injuries affected her career. Stephanie is a dental hygienist with 14 years of experience, the founder of Posture Pros, a national public speaker, author, and a content creator. I promise you, you won't forget her name because when you're in the op reminding yourself to sit up straight and to have the patient turn instead of you it's because Stephanie taught you the importance of ergonomics.  Tune it to increase the longevity of your career through better ergonomics! Instagram: @steph.posturepros https://www.rdhmag.com/resources/contact/14209264/stephanie-botts-bsdh-rdh-ceas https://www.posturepros.net/

History Goes Bump Podcast
Ep. 441 - Weems-Botts House

History Goes Bump Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 30, 2022 29:54


The Weems-Botts House is located in Dumfries, Virginia. This town used to have a big reputation, rivaling towns like Philadephia and Boston, but today it's just a little knockabout place. The house is a museum that is considered one of the most haunted locations in the state. The Merchant Family were the last private owners of the house and they still seem to be here. Join us as we explore the history and hauntings of the Weems-Botts House! Moment in Oddity features the Laos Plain of Jars and This Month in History features the Penny Postcard approved by Congress. Our location was suggested by Katelyn Curry. Check out the website: http://historygoesbump.com   Show notes can be found here: https://historygoesbump.blogspot.com/2022/06/hgb-ep-441-weems-botts-house.html    Become an Executive Producer: http://patreon.com/historygoesbump Music used in this episode:  Main Theme: Lurking in the Dark by Muse Music with Groove Studios (Moment in Oddity) Vanishing by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4578-vanishing License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license (This Month in History) In Your Arms by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3906-in-your-arms License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Outro Music: Happy Fun Punk by Muse Music with Groove Studios All other music licensing: PODCASTMUSIC.COM License Synchronization, Mechanical, Master Use and Performance Direct License for a Single Podcast Series under current monthly subscription. And https://www.purple-planet.com/ Piano at Night

A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast
TIPisode Stress = Pain with Stephanie Botts, RDH

A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2022 7:17


This week on A Tale of Two Hygienists TIPisode we are joined by Stephanie Botts, RDH who is a clinical hygienist and ergonomic specialist. Today Stephanie talks to us about the connection between stress and pain. Special thank you to our friends at Zirc Dental Products for sponsoring this episode. Learn more about the Color Method from Zirc here: https://www.zirc.com/color-method  Links https://www.posturepros.net/  https://www.instagram.com/steph.posturepros/  https://www.facebook.com/stephanie.botts.rdh/  https://www.linkedin.com/in/posturepros/

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The Open Podcasts
Qualifying for The Open with Peter Finch - Part 3 feat. Steven Bottomley and John Singleton

The Open Podcasts

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2022 65:28 Very Popular


YouTube star and PGA Professional Peter Finch joins The Open Podcasts for a third and final special episode on Open Qualifying, as he embarks on a journey to discover more about Qualifying and the stories it has to offer, ahead of his own attempt to make it to St Andrews for The 150th Open. In Part 3, Pete talks to Steven Bottomley, who featured in Tales of The Open, about his 1995 heroics at St Andrews, as the pair look over some of Steven's shots from the final day. Producer Chris Lewis then catches up later on with John Singleton, a player with one of Open Qualifying's greatest fairytale stories. Subscribe to The Open Podcasts today to never miss an episode.

Hill Country Bible Church
When I Need God's Presence | Jim Botts

Hill Country Bible Church

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 5, 2022 44:07


Do you truly believe that God wants a personal relationship with you? Above all else, He does. And ways that we can have a relationship with God include confessing our dependence on Him, trusting in His guidance, and practicing being in His presence. . Follow us @hcbcaustin, and join us on Sundays at 9:00am or 10:45am!

The JK Experience with Josh Kalinowski
4x4x48: The Recap with Jeremy Botts

The JK Experience with Josh Kalinowski

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2022 36:00


4 miles. Every 4 hours. For 48 hours straight. Josh interviews business owner and runner Jeremy Botts after his recent completion of David Goggins' 4x4x48 Challenge. Botts shares his takeaways from the experience and why we all need to do hard things to uncover our inner greatness.Get practical application to lead in your life every week, in your inbox https://www.joshkalinowski.com/jk-download For more free tools to grow your business visit www.joshkalinowski.com Get my new book for FREE www.strike3book.com
 Liked this episode? Check out this video... www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHj4HjTq3K0 
 Josh Kalinowski is a CEO, serial entrepreneur and family man hellbent on helping leaders live a life of exceptional impact, influence and faith. On this show, Josh shares what he learns with thought leaders, entrepreneurs and everyday extraordinaires to keep moving the finish line forward. If you're searching for “more,” you're not on this journey alone. As a listener you can expect the tools, inspiration and accountability you need to find your inner greatness and become your best self in business and life.

Lightning Insider
Full Ep: Preview of Bolts-NY Rangers Series 5 31 22

Lightning Insider

Play Episode Listen Later May 31, 2022 17:37 Very Popular


The Lightning now know their opponent for the Eastern Conference Finals in their bid to "3 peat" and it's the New York Rangers. They won dramatically in game 7 at Carolina on Monday night and will now host the Botts for the first two games of the best of 7 at Madison Square Garden.Erik is back, now knowing the matchup, to preview it all, including the "Rust vs. Rest" argument for the Lightning being off for 8 days before game one?What about the goaltending matchup and will Andrei Vasilevskiy be up to the challenge right away on the road after his brilliant play so far in these 2022 Stanley Cup Playoffs?And, will Tampa Bay perhaps get star forward Brayden Point back at some point in this series? What's the latest insight?Hear it all on "The Lightning Insider Podcast" and make sure, as the Lightning run continues, to follow/subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google, etc.!!Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Hill Country Bible Church
Vertical Living in a Horizontal World | Jim Botts

Hill Country Bible Church

Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2022 42:42


Does your uplook (vertical life) determine your outlook (horizontal life)? While this is how God intended for us to live, it can be challenging because we live in a horizontal world. When we live vertically by looking to and loving God first; though, we are more aligned with His will, heart, and desire for us. . Follow us @hcbcaustin, and join us Sundays at 9:00am or 10:45am!

Hill Country Bible Church
Making a Difference in Human Trafficking | Jim Botts

Hill Country Bible Church

Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2022 46:00


In Luke 4:18-19, Jesus summarized His life mission with the words, “set captives free.” When you consider you own life, can you see how and where you've been set free? As a follower of Jesus and one who's been transformed, how can you help others experience freedom through Jesus' love? . Follow us @hcbcaustin, and join us on Sundays at 9:00am or 10:45am!

Creative Minds Think Alike
110: Evolving in Your Business with Jenelle Botts

Creative Minds Think Alike

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 12, 2022 30:59


Karima talks with Jenelle Botts, a Brand Specialist who recently shifted the services she provides. Jenelle talks about when and how to make changes in your business as you evolve.   Follow Karima on Instagram @karima.creative   Find the show notes at karimacreative.com

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Hill Country Bible Church
Re-Storied by the Resurrection | Jim Botts

Hill Country Bible Church

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 10, 2022 46:56


Find us on social @hcbcaustin, and join us every Sunday at 9:00am or 10:45am! Because Jesus rose from the dead, we can be re-storied by God. Our life can take on a different shape, trajectory, and story. Consider the hope, grace, mission, and more that you receive as a result of the resurrection. When you think about your life, how do you see that Jesus has most changed you?

One LIFE with Cece Echols
Solutions to Mental Wellness with Special Guest Minister Sabrina Botts

One LIFE with Cece Echols

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2022 43:25


Tune in to the One LIFE Podcast on today. Our special guest will be Minister Sabrina Botts. We will be discussing solutions to Mental Wellness and resources for assistance. Tell a friend and listen in.

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Skylight Books Author Reading Series
SKYLIT: Paul Haddad, ”FREEWAYTOPIA” w/ Steve DeVorkin

Skylight Books Author Reading Series

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 30, 2022 48:04


From the Arroyo Seco Parkway, which began construction during the Great Depression, to the Century Freeway, completed in 1993, author Paul Haddad provides an entertaining and thought-provoking history of the 527 miles of roadways that comprise the Los Angeles freeway system. Each of Los Angeles's twelve freeways receives its own chapter, and these are supplemented by "Off-Ramps"--sidebars that dish out pithy factoids about Botts' Dots, SigAlerts, and all matter of freeway lexicon, such as why Southern Californians are the only people in the country who place the word "the" in front of their interstates, as in "the 5," or "the 101." Freewaytopia also explores those routes that never saw the light of day. Imagine superhighways burrowing through Laurel Canyon, tunneling under the Hollywood Sign, or spanning the waters of Santa Monica Bay. With a few more legislative strokes of the pen, you wouldn't have to imagine them--they'd already exist. Haddad is joined in conversation by Steve DeVorkin. _______________________________________________   Produced by Natalie Freeman, Lance Morgan, & Michael Kowaleski. Theme: "I Love All My Friends," an unreleased demo by Fragile Gang. Visit https://www.skylightbooks.com/event for future offerings from the Skylight Books Events team.

Byrds Sports Performance Podcast
Episode 30 Getting the Sports Advantage with Brian Botts

Byrds Sports Performance Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 25, 2022 101:31


In this Episode talk to Brian Bott owner of Sports Advantage.  Botts is a 

Motivational Mondays: Conversations with Leaders
Surviving Girlhood Fragility and Ancestral Trauma (Feat. Reelaviolette Botts-Ward)

Motivational Mondays: Conversations with Leaders

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 17, 2022 12:44


Reelaviolette Botts-Ward specializes in empowering black women to thrive through a healing process of dealing spiritually with their systemic emotional issues. She coined the phrase “ancestral grieving” to describe an understanding of how many African Americans carry the weight of generational suffering from racial oppression and inequity. Described as a “Jane of all trades,” Reelaviolette is an author, professor, professional speaker, mental health advocate, current PhD candidate, and the founder of BlackWomxnHealing. Her work is aligned with her journey to break intergenerational curses that get passed down from elders to their descendants. On this week's Motivational Mondays, Ree shares her story and how the history of her ancestors impacts her life today. You'll learn about the power of embodied remembering, reconciling ancestral traumas, and why childhood is the most sacred time of life.   FIND OUT MORE: >> Visit Reelaviolette's website {blackwomxnhealing.com} >> Read Reelaviolette's book: mourning my inner[blackgirl]child {https://amzn.to/3noaTx6} >> Follow Reelaviolette on Instagram {https://www.instagram.com/reelaviolette} >> Check out the Femi Magazine Profile of Reelaviolette {https://femimagazine.com/?p=5218}   NSLS MEMBERS ONLY: Listen to the bonus episode to learn about the dynamic of inclusivity within the female African American community and the mission behind Reelaviolette's BlackWomxnHealing {https://thens.ls/3fsJdmt}