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Send us a textABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Scott O'Donnell. (Part 2 of 2)Dr. O'Donnell earned a bachelor's in Psychology minoring in Cognitive Neuroscience under the mentorship of Dr. Philip Hineline at Temple University where he assisted in conducting an experimental analysis of behavior with rats and pigeons. Dr. O'Donnell began working with adults with autism and intellectual disabilities in 2013, youth with autism and intellectual disabilities in 2015, and received his registered behavior technician credential in 2016 working for multiple companies providing autism services. Dr. O'Donnell earned his masters in Psychology and Applied Behavior Analysis in 2018 from Purdue Global (nee Kaplan University) where he studied under Dr. Antonio Harrison, a researcher and practitioner of behavior analysis in health, sports, and fitness settings. In 2022, Dr. O'Donnell graduated with a PhD from The Chicago School for Professional Psychology where he researched applications of applied behavior analysis in non-traditional settings including sports and organizational behavior management under Dr. Jack Spear, publishing his thesis in 2021 reviewing behavioral interventions to improve the performance of competing athletes and conducted his dissertation on behavior analysis with competing golfers. Dr. O'Donnell works with under-served mental health populations providing Acceptance and Commitment Therapy to clients on medical assistance in Philadelphia. Dr. O'Donnell is the President of the Philadelphia Metropolitan Association for Behavior Analysis. Dr. O'Donnell volunteers with his local civic association and promotes the use of radical behaviorism in government. Some of his research interests include translational behavior analysis (theory to practice), Health/Sports/& Fitness, social responsibility and sustainability, freedom and government, Relational Frame Theory, Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, radical behaviorism, and self-applications of behavior analysis.Dr. Scott is a wealth of knowledge and an amazingly cool dude. We look forward to his next visit. This is a nice, super-chilled, tasty and refreshing brew. Feel free to pour generously and always analyze responsibly. Support the show

Send us a textABA on Tap is proud to present Dr. Scott O'Donnell. (Part 1 of 2)Dr. O'Donnell earned a bachelor's in Psychology minoring in Cognitive Neuroscience under the mentorship of Dr. Philip Hineline at Temple University where he assisted in conducting an experimental analysis of behavior with rats and pigeons. Dr. O'Donnell began working with adults with autism and intellectual disabilities in 2013, youth with autism and intellectual disabilities in 2015, and received his registered behavior technician credential in 2016 working for multiple companies providing autism services. Dr. O'Donnell earned his masters in Psychology and Applied Behavior Analysis in 2018 from Purdue Global (nee Kaplan University) where he studied under Dr. Antonio Harrison, a researcher and practitioner of behavior analysis in health, sports, and fitness settings. In 2022, Dr. O'Donnell graduated with a PhD from The Chicago School for Professional Psychology where he researched applications of applied behavior analysis in non-traditional settings including sports and organizational behavior management under Dr. Jack Spear, publishing his thesis in 2021 reviewing behavioral interventions to improve the performance of competing athletes and conducted his dissertation on behavior analysis with competing golfers. Dr. O'Donnell works with under-served mental health populations providing Acceptance and Commitment Therapy to clients on medical assistance in Philadelphia. Dr. O'Donnell is the President of the Philadelphia Metropolitan Association for Behavior Analysis. Dr. O'Donnell volunteers with his local civic association and promotes the use of radical behaviorism in government. Some of his research interests include translational behavior analysis (theory to practice), Health/Sports/& Fitness, social responsibility and sustainability, freedom and government, Relational Frame Theory, Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, radical behaviorism, and self-applications of behavior analysis.Dr. Scott is a wealth of knowledge and an amazingly cool dude. We look forward to his next visit. This is a nice, super-chilled, tasty and refreshing brew. Feel free to pour generously and always analyze responsibly. Support the show

Building a Billion-Dollar HVAC Innovation with Donny CaseIn this episode of The Daily Mastermind, host George Wright III engages with Donny Case, a veteran in the HVAC industry and founder of Air Scientist Solutions. Donnie shares his journey from being a military veteran to becoming an industry innovator, highlighting his extensive background and deep passion for improving indoor air quality. He discusses his innovative WiFi Smart Unit that enhances HVAC efficiency and transparency, ultimately redefining the industry. Donny also delves into the challenges of bringing such groundbreaking technology to market, the importance of having a grand vision, and his commitment to creating jobs and improving communities. This episode is a rich resource for entrepreneurs and business owners looking to innovate and make a meaningful impact.00:00 Introduction and Special Guest Announcement01:38 Donny Case's Background and Journey04:06 Innovations in HVAC Technology16:24 Challenges and Market Strategy24:13 Vision, Motivation, and Final ThoughtsThanks for listening, and Please Share this Episode with someone. It would really help us to grow our show and share these valuable tips and strategies with others. Have a great day.You have Greatness inside you. I know you can Learn, Grow and Accomplish anything you put your mind toward. I appreciate you listening today.George Wright IIICEO, The Evolution Group_________________________________________________________1. Subscribe to The Daily Mastermind Podcast- daily inspiration, motivation, education2. Follow me on social media Facebook | Instagram | Linkedin | TikTok | Youtube3. Get the Prosperity Pillars Poster I Developed over 20 years from my Mentors.About Donny Case:Donny C. Case is a seasoned HVAC expert and the visionary founder and CEO of Air Scientist Solutions Inc., a company at the forefront of smart HVAC technology. With over four decades of experience in the heating, ventilation, and air conditioning industry, Case has dedicated his career to enhancing indoor air quality and energy efficiency through innovative solutions. His academic background includes a Master of Science in Environmental Policy from Purdue Global, which has informed his approach to sustainable HVAC design.Guest Resources:Website: Smart Air TechnologyLinkedIn: Donny CaseEmail: airscientistsolutions@gmail.com

It's YOUR time to #EdUpPCO   In this episode,   YOUR guest is Frank Dooley, Chancellor Emeritus of Purdue Global.   YOUR host is Amrit Ahluwalia⁠⁠, Executive Director of Continuing Studies at Western University in London, Ontario, Canada Some key questions we tackle: ·      What are some of the unique factors involved with serving adult learners that more traditional campuses could benefit from onboarding into their own practice? ·      How does creating a campus dedicated to serving working adults impact the regional economy? ·      Why was it important for Purdue to maintain the adult and online focus of Purdue Global when it took over from Kaplan in 2018? Listen in to #EdUp!   Thank YOU so much for tuning in. Join us on the next episode for YOUR time to EdUp! Connect with YOUR EdUp Team - ⁠⁠⁠⁠Elvin Freytes⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠Dr. Joe Sallustio⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join YOUR EdUp community at ⁠⁠⁠⁠The EdUp Experience⁠⁠⁠⁠! We make education YOUR business!

In this episode of “This Is Purdue,” we're discussing the return of commercial flights to the Purdue University Airport and highlighting the university's renowned history in aviation.   Listen as Adam Baxmeyer (BS aviation administration '02; MPA '22, Purdue Global), director of the Purdue University Airport, and Rob Wynkoop, vice president of Auxiliary Services, share the importance of the Purdue Airport building upon the university's nearly 100-year legacy in aviation excellence.   After 20 years commercial flights are returning to the Purdue University Airport, connecting West Lafayette and Chicago. Find out how the Purdue University Airport offers more convenient and cost-effective travel options for the Greater Lafayette community.  Plus, you'll learn more about the largest classroom on campus — the Purdue Airport — as Tom Carney (AAS general aviation '70; BS professional flight technology '71; MS aviation climatology '77; PhD atmospheric sciences and meteorology '84), professor emeritus and former head of the Department of Aviation Technology, delves into the history of why Purdue has one of the strongest aviation programs in the country.   “There's no other place I could have flown the former president, Jimmy Carter, or the Dalai Lama or the first and last astronauts to walk on the moon than at Purdue University,” Tom says.  We also take you behind the scenes with Tom in Purdue's Hawker 900XP full-motion simulator. This level D flight simulator — the highest level available — imitates all the aircraft systems that are accessible in the cockpit. You don't want to miss this special episode! 

In the 5th and final part of this Pulse Check series on Mergers and Acquisitions in Higher Ed, Kin Sejpal is joined by R. Ethan Braden and Kati Pratt, the brilliant minds behind the Comeback campaign, to explore the captivating brand development journey of Purdue Global following its acquisition by Purdue University in 2017.Discover the crucial role insights play in shaping a compelling brand narrative.Learn how to find substance amidst a crowded, transactional, and noisy market landscape.Explore strategies to transition from a transactional acquisition to a genuine merger of two entities.Gain insights into navigating the integration of two brands to achieve clear alignment and trust within both organizations.Understand the significance of cultural fit for long-term success in brand development and mergers.Guest 1 Name: R. Ethan BradenGuest 1 Social: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertethanbraden/Guest 2 Name: Kati PrattGuest 2 Social: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katipratt/https://twitter.com/Kati_Pratt - - - -Connect With Our Co-Hosts:Mallory Willsea https://www.linkedin.com/in/mallorywillsea/https://twitter.com/mallorywillseaSeth Odell https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethodell/https://twitter.com/sethodellAbout The Enrollify Podcast Network:The Higher Ed Pulse is a part of the Enrollify Podcast Network. If you like this podcast, chances are you'll like other Enrollify shows too! Some of our favorites include Generation AI and Confessions of a Higher Education Social Media Manager.Enrollify is made possible by Element451 — the next-generation AI student engagement platform helping institutions create meaningful and personalized interactions with students. Learn more at element451.com. Connect with Us at the Engage Summit:Exciting news — Mallory will be at the 2024 Engage Summit in Raleigh, NC, on June 25 and 26, and we'd love to meet you there! Sessions will focus on cutting-edge AI applications that are reshaping student outreach, enhancing staff productivity, and offering deep insights into ROI. Use the discount code Enrollify50 at checkout, and you can register for just $200! Learn more and register at engage.element451.com — we can't wait to see you there!

In this week's special episode, we're bringing you a live discussion our host, Dustin, moderated at the recent Times Higher Education Student Success Summit. The panelists discussed how adult learners are enrolling in higher education in record numbers, and the looming enrollment cliff is predicted to put more pressure on colleges to enroll working learners. Adults often require different kinds and modes of support to succeed, so the group shared ways that institutions can adapt their offerings to serve them better.Guest Names:Chris Dickson - Assistant Dean for Student Success at College UnboundAshley Flood - Manager of Student Success Coaching at Purdue GlobalChristopher Guymon - Associate Provost for Academic Programs & Director of Graduate Studies at Utah Tech UniversityGuest Social Handles:Chris D. AshleyChris G.Guest Bios: Chris Dickson is the assistant dean for student success for College Unbound. As a student-centered college, his role is to best support students in finding their way to the center of the college. This happens through supporting students when they fall behind, to the fringes, and out of the peripheries of staff and faculty. He ensures that every student and their unique voices and talents are heard and harnessed. As a professor of pedagogy for the College Unbound Prison Education program, Dickson has redesigned its five-course sequence of class curricula and instructs these classes.Ashley Flood is a manager of student success coaching at Purdue Global. With experience in success coaching and K-12 education, she is committed to putting people first to drive student success. She manages a team of eight success coaches who work with students to create success plans to help them in their academic and personal achievements at the institution. This includes helping students navigate through basic-needs insecurities that they may be facing. Her major contributions include developing comprehensive training for the coaching teams, developing processes to implement Purdue Global's best-in-class basic-needs support, and working with the tech team to develop tools and solutions to further enable coaching. Christopher Guymon is associate provost for academic programs and director of graduate studies at Utah Tech University. During his tenure, he has led the development of several online degrees; significantly increased enrollment in degrees and certificate programs; developed strategic relationships in Europe, East Asia, and South Asia; and created and executed a $2 million fundraising campaign to support students and faculty. Before joining Utah Tech in August 2020, he served at The University of Chicago as interim dean, and senior associate dean and COO. - - - -Connect With Our Host:Dustin Ramsdellhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/dustinramsdell/https://twitter.com/HigherEd_GeekAbout The Enrollify Podcast Network:The Higher Ed Geek is a part of the Enrollify Podcast Network. If you like this podcast, chances are you'll like other Enrollify shows too! Some of our favorites include Generation AI and I Wanna Work There. Enrollify is made possible by Element451 — the next-generation AI student engagement platform helping institutions create meaningful and personalized interactions with students. Learn more at element451.com. Connect with Us at the Engage Summit:Exciting news — Dustin will be at the 2024 Engage Summit in Raleigh, NC, on June 25 and 26, and we'd love to meet you there! Sessions will focus on cutting-edge AI applications that are reshaping student outreach, enhancing staff productivity, and offering deep insights into ROI. Use the discount code Enrollify50 at checkout, and you can register for just $99! This early bird pricing lasts until March 31. Learn more and register at engage.element451.com — we can't wait to see you there!

The episode features two higher education professionals, Mike Krause from the John M. Belk Endowment and Ashley Flood from Purdue Global, on adult learners. Krause and Flood talk about the needs of adult learners, how an institution can support their success and practical ways to assist students.  

Happy New Year! In the first episode of 2024, I'd like to introduce you to John Danaher. John is an advisor to several medical businesses, is the former president of medical and veterinary education at Adtalem Global Education, was president of Education and Global Clinical Solutions at Elsevier, and worked with me at Kaplan and served as president of the Schools of Health Sciences and Nursing at Kaplan University - now Purdue Global. The focus of our conversation is on the topic of medical education, nursing and physician shortages, the role of mentoring and coaching in the medical profession, and how to improve human (soft) skills in the physician and nursing workforce. Tune into episode 122 to hear John's story, his 'rocket-booster' moment, and his thoughts on all things medical education.

Pam is a neighbor of mine in Golden, Colorado and fellow former outdoor educator ... in addition to being a BCBA, on the faculty of Purdue Global, and owning her own practice. It's easy to look back on our lives and think 'everything happens for a reason.' Whether or not that's true, I like to think that hers and mine similar experiences teaching in the outdoors helped us find this ABA field that we both love. And if you're a student at Purdue? TAKE HER OBM CLASS! the projects that her students work on know no bounds. Enjoy, kind listener.Resources:Pam...On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamela-martien-koch/Organization: https://clearcreekbehaviorservices.com/"Building and Sustaining Meaningful and Effective Relationships as a Supervisor and Mentor", LeBlanc, Sellers, Ala'i, https://www.amazon.com/Sustaining-Meaningful-Effective-Relationships-Supervisor/dp/1597381209/ref=as..."The Coaching Manager", Hunt & Weintraub: https://www.amazon.com/Coaching-Manager-Developing-Talent-Business/dp/0761924191Building Better Businesses in ABA is edited and produced by KJ Herodirt Productions Intro/outro Music Credit: song "Tailor Made" by Yari and bensound.com Give us a rating at Apple Music, Spotify or your favorite podcast channel: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/building-better-businesses-in-aba/id1603909082 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0H5LzHYPKq5Qnmsue9HTwn Check out Element RCM to learn more about billing & insurance support for Applied Behavior Analysis providers Web: https://elementrcm.ai/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/element-rcm Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elementrcm/ Follow the Pod: Web: https://elementrcm.ai/building-better-businesses-in-aba/ LinkedIn: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesaba/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/buildingbetterbusinessesa...

In this episode of "How The F**k Did You Get That Job?" hosted by David Jaffin, the guest is none other than Ethan Braden. Ethan shares his extraordinary career journey, from his early days as a pre-med student to becoming a successful marketer in the pharmaceutical industry and, ultimately, his transition to Purdue University. The conversation delves into the art of marketing, the transformative power of storytelling, and how Ethan played a pivotal role in reshaping Purdue's brand identity in the online education sphere. Listeners will gain insights into the ever-evolving world of marketing and the importance of adaptability and mentorship in one's career. Don't miss this episode as Ethan Braden's career path serves as an inspiring example of how diverse experiences can lead to remarkable achievements in the realms of marketing and higher education. Episode Highlights 0:00 Intro  1:38 What was your dream job as a kid  3:07 What prompted your college decision  5:17 What did your first job after graduation look like  7:29 What was your first impression walking in to Eli Lily  8:17 How did you navigate between roles at Eli Lily  9:02 What was the moment where you realized you had a knack for marketing 11:05 if you were to sum up Eli Lily in one lesson what would it be  12:35 How did you know it was time to move on from pharmaceuticals  14:15 Tell me about your mentor  15:53 What made you want to come in to Purdue and do things differently   17:38 What are you doing with Purdue Global to innovate their marketing 18:33 How do you differentiate yourself from the online landscape  22:34 How do you create the alumni feeling for your global students  24:01 How do you make sure the Purdue brand is being continued and cherished  26:32 What campaign do you feel allowed you to win the AMA marketer of the year award  28:10 If you were to give your 21 year old self some advice what would it be  29:40 OpenFortune sponsorship  30:40 Quick question round  32:46 Outro 

In a Military that is constantly evolving, education remains the bedrock for our Servicemembers. CWO3 (R) Kelvin Gumbs, Executive Director for Educational Partnerships, Purdue University, joins SMA Tilley as we continue our focus to champion the cause of education for our Servicemembers. Not only is this episode a testament to Purdue Global's unwavering dedication to our military, but also given from the unique vantage point of students and Servicemembers who are making their Educational Comeback! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/yournextmission/message

With all the threats facing our country – climate change, a predatory economy, corporations buying our elections, and the overt move towards fascism among the far right – you would think that politicians would be laser-focused on the existential crises descending upon us. But instead, politicians in the US are devoting a considerable amount of their energy these days to an all-out assault on the rights of transgender people. Although the war on trans people has taken many forms, from bathroom bills to restricting school curricula, one of the most chilling is the denial of basic gender-affirming healthcare. Now, in places like Texas, elected officials have gone even further by targeting healthcare access for the most vulnerable trans folks – trans kids. In this episode, we're joined by one El Paso family and a local gender-affirming care doctor who are fighting back! https://www.youtube.com/live/KeSiTiiwjsk?si=Qi8XgotSntheNIHR Show Notes Our guest today is Lori Edwards. Lori is the Director of the Intergenerational Rainbow Link at Borderland Rainbow Center in El Paso, Texas, an organization that provides a number of services to queer people in their community. Lori is a mama bear to her two trans/gender fluid teens, as well as any person who finds themselves in need of a mama bear nearby. She has a BSNS from Purdue Global, is a certified Mental Health Peer Specialist and pulls from backgrounds in both emergency medicine and education to function as a Jane of all trades who's ready to tackle the unexpected. As an El Paso native, Lori returned to the borderland with her husband to raise their children close to family. Liana, who is Lori's daughter, is a 16-year-old trans girl who loves gaming, singing (rapping in particular) and is a student athletic trainer at her high school. She is also a Girl Scout and local advocate for LGBTQ rights in her city. Along with helping the family foster for a local pug rescue, she loves spending time with her 2 cats, 2 pugs, and 4 fish. Dr. Toni Marie Ramírez is a family medicine physician with several years of experience in gender-affirming care. She received her undergraduate and medical school degree from Brown University and trained in family medicine at the Santa Rosa/UCSF family medicine residency in Northern California. She was born and raised in Socorro and moved back to El Paso in 2020 to be with family. Her work is strongly grounded in social justice and equity, valuing the power of community empowerment. As a family medicine physician and gender-affirming care provider, Toni shares that those entering the medical field with the intention to provide and contribute to the health and well-being of a community, quickly realize that the healthcare system is not set up for this. We pathologize what is outside the norm in this colonized world and the medical community ignores the healthcare disparities of the trans community. Her 10-year experience in providing care has shown that it is astonishing how little medical providers know about gender-affirming care. Gender-affirming care is not part of the curriculum in medical school, let alone residency. This allows medical providers to uphold this gender binary in medicine. Starting from the very beginning, our socialized aspects infiltrate the way medicine is practiced and taught. When it comes to the access aspect that comes from that, physicians are already not educated enough to provide such care. We live in a world that is very binary and the reason why there are so many disparities is not because of anything innate to trans or gender-diverse folks, but because of the transphobia that exists in the world and the transphobia that exists in medicine. Sometimes people don't access care because of a fear of discrimination or outright denial of care. Even in a progressive area of California, where Toni practiced, there are so many barriers to accessing care: (1) for feeling safe,

Interim Dean for the School of Health Science Dr. Rebecca Zolotor and Dr. Richard Orona, Director of Military Health and Nursing join us from Purdue Global to discuss all things education for the Veteran, Servicemember and their Family. Dr. Zolotor and Dr. Orona explain the ways that Veterans, Servicemembers, and their Families can take advantage of programs that are regionally accredited and operate on camps, bases, and installations across the globe. This is an episode for anyone seeking to further their education with a school that is globally recognized. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/yournextmission/message

I'm so excited you are joining me for another empowering message. For the next three months, I am dedicating the show to focusing on wellness well-being, and mindfulness. Today I am honored and privileged to have on the show with me Ms. Andrea B. Logan, M.A., RBT Andrea Logan is a Registered Behavioral Technician, providing Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) therapy to adolescents diagnosed with autism. Andrea obtained her M.A. in Applied and Developmental Psychology in 2022 after working as a government contractor for over 20 years. She is currently enrolled in Purdue Global pursuing an M.S. in Applied Behavior Analysis with licensure as a Board-Certified Behavioral Analyst (BCBA). Andrea's specialties are Applied Behavior Analysis, Adolescence Development, Autism, Listening Skills, Public Speaking, and Organizational Skills.   When not serving her community by uplifting those that cannot lift themselves, she enjoys philanthropy as a member of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority Inc, dancing, walking her dogs, and reading (especially books related to professional interests). To listen to the podcast, go to voicesofencouragement.com/podcast Connect with Ms. Andrea B. Logan, M.A., RBT:  Email: andreablogan163@gmail.com To know more about Voices of Encouragement, check us out on the following social media platforms:  Instagram: @voemetoday YouTube: @VOICESOFENCORAGEMENTYT  Facebook: @VOE4ME LinkedIn: Edna Howard Website: www.voicesofencouragement.com #podcast #womenempowerment #womenempowermentmovement #mentalhealth #mentalhealthawareness #mentalhealthmatters #mentalhealthsupport #mindfulness #voicesofencouragement #ednahoward

In this inspiring episode of Embracing Change, we're privileged to host Ethan Braden, the Chief Marketing and Communications Officer of Purdue University and Purdue Global. Braden, with his trailblazing efforts in the digital transformation of higher education, brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to our discussion. As an influential leader driving change in academia, he has successfully steered Purdue towards a digitally-empowered future, making it a benchmark for other institutions. Throughout the conversation, Braden imparts his wisdom on the necessity for universities to adapt their digital marketing tactics to engage the new generation of digital-native students. He provides a detailed analysis of the delicate balance between rapid digital scaling and the need for thoughtful long-term planning in academia, drawing from his own experiences at the helm of one of the nation's leading institutions. Join us for this enlightening exploration of the digital future of higher education, guided by one of its most accomplished leaders. Don't miss this episode - tune in now!

Purdue Global's Karen McGregor and Ashley Flood join the podcast to talk about a new Success Coach initiative launched in a continued effort to put Purdue Global students in the best position to succeed!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

For 20 years, I have been advocating for the vulnerable and dying.  For ten years, I trained and mediated elder disputes at the LA County Department of Consumer Affairs.  I helped elders with family issues, including financial abuse and end-of-life care.   In 2012, I earned an Executive Juris Doctor (EJD) from Concord Law School, a division of Purdue Global, majoring in Health Law.  My internship was in Pediatric Hospice, where I spent a year attending Interdisciplinary Team Meetings and writing about my experiences.For many years, I have been a hospice volunteer sitting at the bedside of many dying patients.  In addition to supporting their families, I help tie up their final loose ends so they can pass in peace.  I have been a Thanatologist since 2015. I am certified as an expert in caring for the dying and bereaved and teaching others about the dying process.  I have clinical bioethics training and sat on two hospital bioethics committees.In 2020, I became a Board-Certified Patient Advocate (BCPA) and started Ending Well Patient Advocacy, LLC.  I weaved my past experiences into a business that specializes in giving people a voice in planning the last chapter of their life.  I earned Facilitator certificates through Respecting Choices® and now offer community classes and presentations on advance care planning and surrogacy.In January 2021, I became the Surrogate Consultant for the Final Exit Network (FEN).  My role is to help FEN members and their partners who act as surrogates or healthcare proxies enforce and honor the patient's Advance Directives.Follow Knowledgeable Aging:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Knowledgeable-Aging-102638398162823Twitter: https://twitter.com/KnowledgeAgingInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/knowledgeableaging/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/knowledgeable-aging/?viewAsMember=trueSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/05OHF9FkmhzCO5PDsyGfGqNewsletter: https://www.knowledgeableaging.com/newsletter/

In this episode you will hear:   Mark shares a half dozen Higher Ed updates. Mark interviews Mitch Warren, Associate Vice Provost and Director of Admissions at Purdue University. Title: Understanding Purdue, 1 of 3   Preview of Part 1   Mitch tells us how he got into collegeadmissions;he explains the jobs he had before he got his current job and he tells us about his family and his favorite hobby. Mitch tell us who Purdue is. 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Purdue University Global Chancellor Dr. Frank Dooley joins the podcast to talk about partnership with Ivy Tech, Purdue Global's continued growth and benefits, and much more!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode of “This Is Purdue,” we're talking to five members of the Purdue Global community as they celebrate the impact Purdue Global has had on their careers and lives.  The podcast team went behind the scenes at the Purdue Global Black and Gold Reception to hear from both alumni and faculty on why they chose Purdue Global and their advice to anyone considering furthering their education online.  Listen as recent Purdue Global graduates Kelvin Gumbs and Sherry McQueary and Purdue Global deans Melissa Burdi and Jeffery Buck discuss the impact Purdue Global makes on adult learners and the immense pride they feel celebrating this graduation with loved ones. Plus, you'll hear special family stories from proud Boilermaker Viveca Stock on how her son got involved in the Purdue community through Purdue Global. Each of these special guests have their own perspective on the persistence it takes to succeed in higher education. You don't want to miss this episode full of gratitude and pride for the Purdue Global community! 

Navy Vet and Purdue Global Graduate Kelvin Gumbs joins host Adam Bartels to talk about his journey through the service, earning a degree from Purdue Global, speaking at commencement, and more!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode of “This Is Purdue,” we're talking to Frank Dooley, chancellor of Purdue Global.   Purdue Global is Purdue's accredited and affordable online solution designed for the working adult with life experience, and often some college credit – but no degree. Chancellor Dooley's experiences have prepared him to lead Purdue Global and oversee academics for more than 36,000 students.   Listen as Chancellor Dooley shares impactful stories from graduates that fuel the enthusiasm for his work and inspire him to keep expanding opportunities for students of all backgrounds.  Plus, he explains Purdue Global's mission and the ways it promotes Purdue University's values and goals. If you're interested in the remarkable rise of online learning, you don't want to miss this episode! 

R. Ethan Braden serves as Executive Vice President and the chief marketing and communications officer at Purdue University and Purdue Global. Ranked as one of the Top Ten Most Innovative Schools in America by US News and World Report for four consecutive years, Ethan leads the system in the persistent pursuit of the next giant leap by passionately positioning, promoting, and protecting the Purdue brand and portfolio worldwide.In October 2021, Fast Company Magazine selected Purdue University as one of its inaugural “Brands That Matter,” a list honoring companies and organizations that authentically communicate their mission and ideals and give people compelling reasons to care about them according to Fast Company editors. The only university and the only Indiana entity named a Brand That Matters, Purdue was selected alongside Nike, 3M, McDonald's, Ford, Yeti, and other large multinational conglomerates, small companies, and nonprofits.In 2020, the American Marketing Association recognized Ethan as ‘Marketer of the Year,' and Purdue University's central marketing and communications team as ‘Team of the Year,' both for higher education.He has appeared in Fast Company magazine, the Washington Post, AdAge, The Hechinger Report, and The Morning Brew. Ethan has spoken at Google Marketing Live and Salesforce's Dreamforce, as well as appeared on numerous podcasts related to brand management, marketing, and higher education. Ethan teaches personal branding to student-athletes in Purdue University's Optimizing Personal Brand and Image class, an innovative partnership between Purdue's School of Management and Purdue Athletics prompted by NIL.Previous to Purdue, Ethan worked for Eli Lilly & Company for over a decade, where he served in a variety of senior marketing and sales leadership roles in the U.S. and globally, building, launching, and managing some of Lilly's and the pharmaceutical industry's most successful and life-changing, billion-dollar brands.Ethan earned his MBA from the University of Notre Dame and his bachelor's degree from Willamette University (Salem, Oregon). Ethan lives in West Lafayette, Indiana, with his wife, Betsy, their son, Benjamin, and their daughter, Margaret.Two Quotes From This Episode"When we read together, and we consume together, it creates common knowledge. And it creates a common language...there's a common language that pervades the community of employees as a result of referring to the same texts.""The transition that we've made in our industry over time went from marketing, to brand, to now storytelling. And I don't care what you're in, great stories beat great spreadsheets."Resources Mentioned in This EpisodeThe episode title is taken from the book Long Life Learning: Preparing for Jobs that Don't Even Exist YetLinks to resources are located in the transcript!About The International Leadership Association (ILA)The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in the study, practice, and teaching of leadership. Plan for ILA's 24th Global Conference online on October 6 & 7, 2022, and/or onsite in Washington, D.C., October 13-16, 2022. Register for the 24th Global Conference here!My Approach to HostingThe views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are important views to be aware of. Nothing can replace your own research and exploration.Connect with Scott AllenWebsite

TUNE IN TO LEARN:The leadership of people that we all can learn from working remotely, in the office or hybrid;Remote makes the world more inclusive, more diverse, bigger, and more connected with many more opportunities to look at life and work from many more perspectives - people bring their culture, their background, their experience to the remote world from everywhere without the need for us to relocate;Physical and psychological boundaries at home to make work-life balance work, from physical “zoning” of spaces to conversations with family, partners and roommates - how Tricia does it with her husband, who works online, kids in the house and all;How make your team work well in any environment? Communication! In the remote environment we need to put more effort into it since we can't judge how everyone does by looking at them, working side by side, and having casual interactions;How Tricia approaches team management, team communication to help people open up, to build trust, to make sure any issues are addressed VS bottled up - the way she initiates conversations is what's most profoundly different from many less successful managers of people;How Fitbit saved Tricia's fitness when she went remote, and why morning workouts might be the best option;Tricia's very chill and smart (all the coaches will be jealous) strategy to manage eating habits while working from home;Email communication mastery to keep the vibe positive and get things done faster;Tricia's best advice on mental health strategies, which we all need to work on unless you are lucky to have Trisha's husband (that she's not willing to share)…A CONVERSATION NOT TO MISS! ENJOY! Tricia Berry, BIO:LinkedIn - Tricia BerryDr. Tricia Berry is the Associate Dean and Director of Clinical and Practicum Programs for Purdue University Global.  She holds a Doctor of Philosophy in Education with a Specialization in Organizational Leadership from Northcentral University, a Master of Arts in Teaching and Learning from Kaplan University (now Purdue Global), and Bachelors' degrees in both Occupational Therapy and Psychology from St. Ambrose University.  She is also a Certified Diversity and Inclusion Specialist through the Academy to Innovate HR. Trish is a member of several professional associations, including the American Association of Adult and Continuing Education, Greenleaf Center for Servant Leadership, the International Leadership Association, the Association for Non-Traditional Students in Higher Education, and the American Association of Medical Assistants. She serves as the Director of AAACE's Commission of Distance Learning and Teaching, is a board member for the Central Iowa Chapter of the Purdue Alumni Association, and serves on the editorial board for the Journal of Continuing Higher Education.  Produced by Angela Shurina,Schedule our call HERE.CERTIFIED NUTRITIONIST,  BRAIN PERFORMANCE COACHNutrition + Neuroscience + Behavior ChangeI help you use nutrition and lifestyle protocols, biohacking and space design as tools to unlock your brain genius and unlimited energy level, off-the-charts productivity

Dallas County Hospital PR Specialist Tom Harmsen and Academic Chair for Prelicensure Nursing with Purdue Global Tonya Holian talk about the recent partnership which will create a simulation center.

This week on the podcast, we got the pleasure of talking with Andrew Rachmell from Purdue Global. Andrew is the Professional Flight Business Development Specialist for the online Purdue Global program. Andrew gives us the inside detail on the amazing benefits of doing your flight training through Purdue. Superior is honored to be an Articulation Partner for the Purdue Global flight degree. For more information on the program visit https://www.purdueglobal.edu/degree-programs/aviation/online-bachelor-professional-flight/. Follow us on IG: instrgram.com/superiorflightschool Music: Busy City-Tracktribe

For 20 years, I have been advocating for the vulnerable and dying.  For ten years, I trained and mediated elder disputes at the LA County Department of Consumer Affairs.  I helped elders with family issues, including financial abuse and end-of-life care.   In 2012, I earned an Executive Juris Doctor (EJD) from Concord Law School, a division of Purdue Global, majoring in Health Law.  My internship was in Pediatric Hospice, where I spent a year attending Interdisciplinary Team Meetings and writing about my experiences.For many years, I have been a hospice volunteer sitting at the bedside of many dying patients.  In addition to supporting their families, I help tie up their final loose ends so they can pass in peace.  I have been a Thanatologist since 2015. I am certified as an expert in caring for the dying and bereaved and teaching others about the dying process.  I have clinical bioethics training and sat on two hospital bioethics committees.In 2020, I became a Board-Certified Patient Advocate (BCPA) and started Ending Well Patient Advocacy, LLC.  I weaved my past experiences into a business that specializes in giving people a voice in planning the last chapter of their life.  I earned Facilitator certificates through Respecting Choices® and now offer community classes and presentations on advance care planning and surrogacy.In January 2021, I became the Surrogate Consultant for the Final Exit Network (FEN).  My role is to help FEN members and their partners who act as surrogates or healthcare proxies enforce and honor the patient's Advance Directives.Follow Knowledgeable Aging:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Knowledgeable-Aging-102638398162823Twitter: https://twitter.com/KnowledgeAgingInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/knowledgeableaging/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/knowledgeable-aging/?viewAsMember=trueSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/05OHF9FkmhzCO5PDsyGfGqNewsletter: https://www.knowledgeableaging.com/newsletter/

Could the equivalent be happening in healthcare right now?FTAAmerican colleges and universities recorded their largest drop in cash inflows in decades this past academic year, thanks to a big drop in enrollment and a lack of room-and-board revenue from the students who did enroll but took their courses online.But that was just the start. Now that a generation of would-be applicants has grown used to online learning, the business of higher education will likely never be the same again.more respectable not-for-profit schools—like Purdue Global, Southern New Hampshire University and Arizona State University—now rival them in online enrollment.And perhaps most alarming for the college-industrial complex, Google has launched certificate programs that it says it will treat as the equivalent of four-year college for hiring purposes.Every student that opts for an online college degree—or the Google equivalent—is another student that won't be shelling out for the far-higher cost of a traditional education. And fewer students necessarily mean fewer colleges.---Interesting parallels but not a perfect proxy.  #healthcare #healthIT #CIO #cmio #himss #chime

Dean of the School of Business and IT for Purdue Global, Dr. Jeffrey Buck, joins the podcast to talk about its inception, importance, impact, as well as partnerships that are making Purdue Global...a global success and more!

Michael Pruitt is a 36 year veteran of the fire service, having served 28 of those as a career firefighter. He started his fire service career full time with the City of Franklin, Indiana Fire Department. After seven years, he was hired as a Firefighter / Paramedic with the Wayne Township Fire Department in Indianapolis, Indiana, where we rose to Captain's rank. During his tenure with Wayne Township Fire, he served as a Suppression Captain, Deputy Chief of Special Operations, and the department's Public Information Officer.  He retired from the Wayne Township Fire Department in February 2020. He was hired as the Deputy Chief of the Bargersville Indiana Fire Department, where he oversees the daily operations and serves as the PIO. The Bargersville Fire Department Facebook Page. Michael also serves as a FEMA Urban Search & Rescue Team member, Indiana Task Force 1 as a Safety Officer and PIO. He has responded with the team to multiple natural disasters around the country. He has also served as a Wildland Fire PIO with deployments to several western states. In 2017 he was appointed as a PIO to the FEMA Urban Search & Rescue Incident Support Team and the FEMA US&R Public Affairs workgroup. Altogether, Michael has served as a PIO for over 20 years. Outside of serving as a PIO, Michael serves as a Special Deputy / SWAT Medic with Johnson County Sheriffs Office and was recently elected to serve as the Johnson County Coroner. He is a US Navy Veteran of Desert Shield/ Desert Storm. Michael is currently working on his Bachelor's Degree in Emergency Management from Purdue Global. He is married to his wife Angela, and they have one son Morgan who just started his fire service career with the Wayne Township Fire Department.Mike's Twitter account can be accessed here.Support the show (https://t.co/GOmAg9X6e8?amp=1)

Dr. Jon Harbor joined Purdue Global as provost in 2020. Previously, he served as the provost and executive vice president for the University of Montana and as executive director of digital education and associate vice president for teaching and learning at Purdue University. Harbor champions teaching excellence and the expansion of quality online education to meet the needs of diverse learners. He is experienced in designing processes that help academic organizations develop and implement novel strategies for success, with a particular focus on access, innovation, and excellence. At the University of Montana, Harbor oversaw academic and student affairs and, with his team, launched partnerships to develop new online programs, transitioned to a data-informed academic advising model, designed a new budget model, and encouraged pedagogical transformations through a teaching excellence initiative. He joined Purdue University as an associate professor in 1994 and was promoted to full professor in 2001. Harbor was recognized with Purdue University's top awards for both undergraduate teaching and graduate mentoring and was inducted into Purdue's “Book of Great Teachers.” He has served in a wide range of leadership positions at the university level, including associate vice president for research, dean of a college of liberal arts and sciences, founding/interim director of a global sustainability institute, and founding co-director of a learning research center. Harbor was born in England and completed his undergraduate studies at Cambridge University and his PhD in geological sciences at the University of Washington. His research and education initiatives have been supported by grants from the National Science Foundation, the Environmental Protection Agency, NASA, National Geographic, and international science foundations. Harbor has served as a Fulbright Senior Scholar, an American Council on Education Fellow, and a European Union Marie Curie Fellow. In 2015, Stockholm University awarded him an honorary doctorate. An effective communicator with varied audiences, Harbor is a frequent speaker at conferences, at academic institutions, and for community, business, and K–12 audiences.  

This episode features leaders from Purdue Global University and Broward College in Florida, two institutions that are focused on offering credentials that work for under-served student groups, including students who hold down jobs while pursuing credentials. Gregory Adam Haile, Broward's president, talked about the college's work to add short-term credentials that are stackable and feature embedded professional certifications. He also talked about how the college travels into its community to help find students who may not be interested in pursuing a degree right now. We also spoke with Frank Dooley, chancellor of Purdue Global University, an online, public institution that enrolls roughly 36,000 students, 70 percent of whom are eligible to receive federal Pell Grants. Dooley talked about Purdue Global's philosophy on growth and how to be nimble to better meet the demands of students and employers. This episode is sponsored by TimelyMD, a telehealth provider whose mission is to improve the well-being of college students by making virtual medical and mental health care accessible anytime, anywhere. With immediate medical care, scheduled and on-demand counseling, psychiatry and health coaching services, TimelyMD partners with institutions to empower students to thrive in all aspects of their lives. Learn more at timely.md.

This is The EdUp Experience President Series, Episode #26 - In this episode, we welcome Dr. Frank Dooley, Chancellor of Purdue University Global. In this episode, Dr. Frank Dooley talks to us about the RESPONSIBILITY of our faculty to mentor students. Frank dives deep into the concept of mentoring and what the investment in mentoring yields in terms of quality outcomes. Additionally, Frank discusses how CV-19 has helped to change the expectations of learning going forward including his mention of prior learning assessment as a point to consider as the future of higher education. Finally, he references Google not credit certificates, and why they help to enhance opportunities for Purdue U. Global. Dr. Frank Dooley, Chancellor of Purdue University Global, oversees academics for approximately 31,000 students, most of whom earn their degrees online. Purdue Global is part of the Purdue University system, a highly ranked public research university whose flagship institution is located in West Lafayette, Indiana. Prior to becoming Purdue Global chancellor elect, Dooley was senior vice provost for teaching and learning at Purdue University, where he earned an international reputation as being a gifted and innovative teacher, as well as a creative researcher. Thanks so much for tuning in. Join us again next time for another episode! Contact Us! Connect with the hosts - Elvin Freytes, Elizabeth Leiba, and Dr. Joe Sallustio ● If you want to get involved, leave us a comment or rate us! ● Join the EdUp community at The EdUp Experience! ● Follow us on Instagram | LinkedIn | Twitter | YouTube Thanks for listening! We make education your business!

In this episode of Fireside Chat, we sit down with Mitch Daniels, former governor of Indiana and President of Purdue University. In this conversation, we explore the challenges higher education is facing due to the COVID-19 crisis and what leaders can do in the days ahead. Please note: The number of COVID-19 cases and the situation referenced in this episode were based on reported data at the time of the interview and are subject to change. Transcription Mitch Daniels 0:04 Between the time I was elected and sworn in, I went to one or two programs somebody had for incoming governors. And I was sitting around, at that point, the retired governor. And somebody at the table said, “What’s the one thing you would encourage us to study up on or think about that we might not otherwise?” And everybody expect him to say, “Oh, you know, education or corrections or, or environmental policy,” something. He immediately said crisis management. He said, you’re going to have one sometime, and he didn’t want to start your homework then. And he was right. Gary Bisbee 0:44 That was former Indiana governor Mitch Daniels, currently president of Purdue University, responding to the question about a governor’s most important responsibility. I’m Gary Bisbee, and this is Fireside Chat. Purdue was a leader in committing to reopening for classes in the fall, and a growing number of universities are following suit. Governor Daniels outline the extensive steps that Purdue is taking to narrow the risk for faculty employees and students. Governor Daniels has substantial healthcare experience as a board member of a large healthcare IT company and former executive of Eli Lilly. He is well qualified to discuss the similarities between higher ed and healthcare COVID has impacted lives and the economy and sports may be lower down the list and importance but college sports have wide interest. Let’s listen to President Daniels’ view. Mitch Daniels 1:35 This is another trend by the way that was already underway. People were saying but we’re doing is unsustainable and in some cases, irresponsible so much money and so forth. And that reform was necessary and probably inevitable. And now I think again, this has been accelerated a lot every day. Now again this morning looking in the press and another school canceling sports or paring back or laying people off. So I don’t know where it’s coming out. But like so many other things it will not look just the same when this is over. Gary Bisbee 2:09 Governor Daniels commented on the importance of COVID in the forthcoming presidential election, difficult COVID related decisions being made by governors, and the important characteristics for leaders during a crisis. I’m delighted to welcome governor mitch daniels to the microphone. Well, welcome to the podcast. Governor. Mitch Daniels 2:30 Thanks for having me. Gary Bisbee 2:31 I’m pleased to have you at this microphone. You’ve been president of Purdue now for seven years following two terms as governor of Indiana. Let’s start with a description of Purdue University. Could you describe Purdue for us please? Mitch Daniels 2:44 I’m always glad to talk about it. free advertising is one of my favorite things. Purdue is a research one university and we do the most research of any university in the country, I believe, that doesn’t have a medical school. Some people don’t know we’re as big as we are. We have 34 thousand undergrads and 10 or 11,000 graduate students at the main campus, plus some regionals. We’re a land grant school, some people don’t know that. But we have a very special mission that comes with that. And I guess the other thing is that we are one of the most STEM-centric, that is science, engineering, math, and so forth, schools in the country. About two-thirds of our undergrads and a higher percentage of our grad students are in one of those disciplines. And that’s very much by strategic choice. We’ve been moving further in that direction the last eight years, believing that that’s a special contribution that we can make to this state and country in this knowledge-driven age. Gary Bisbee 3:37 The COVID crisis is affecting all of us and clearly higher education. How are you working through the balance between life must go on and health at Purdue? Mitch Daniels 3:48 We walked around that question early on during these days when even less was understood, and it is now about this virus and its implications, but we decided two or three weeks ago, in large part because of the manifest interest from our students telling us they really want to be back on campus and continue their education in its full dimension. So we think it’s our job to do that. And we announced earlier than others that it’s our intention to bring them back in the fall, and going to do everything. We took dramatic transformations of the way we teach and live on campus to do that. We are out to achieve that. Happily for us in the last couple, three weeks, more and more schools have come to the same conclusion. So we’ll be working on this together. Gary Bisbee 4:33 I see that at least one other Big-10 school and several the Ivy’s have announced and as you say, I think that list is growing day by day isn’t it? Mitch Daniels 4:43 It is. The White House organized the zoom meeting a couple of days before we’re taping this, and I think there were 14 or 15 schools represented. Some very important institutions, including Stanford, Carnegie Mellon, UVA, and others. Everybody now is at least in that group, expressing the viewpoint that it’s our job. It’s our duty to find a way to enable these young people to learn and not have to take an important year out of their lives because we can’t figure out how to keep them safe or more to the point, keep the people teaching and serving them safe. The people we now all know, are far more vulnerable to this virus than young people themselves. Gary Bisbee 5:22 I’m sure parents are concerned as well as students, faculty employees. What measures are you going to take to protect all of these people on campus? Mitch Daniels 5:32 Now the short answer is everything we can think of. The interesting thing about a college campus, at least one the size of ours, to me is that my shorthand is we have the density of New York City but the demographics of an African nation. Which say we literally have as many people we’re gonna win the same acreage as a major city. But their demographics are so different. 82% of the people on or right around our campus are under the age of 35. We’re the reverse of a nursing home, let’s say. And so although it won’t be easy, we do believe if we focus our every effort on the protection of vulnerable sometimes means their separation. We’ve learned like every enterprise a lot about telework in the last few weeks, we believe and we have an instruction, now a mandate from our board to move at least a third of our administrative jobs off of campus. So that’s a couple thousand people who won’t be exposed at all. We will have many of our faculty choose or we will ask them to teach remotely on every occasion they can we know a lot more about that than we used to. We’re changing our physical spaces. That is to say we’re calculating how much distance needs to be kept in those settings like putting up Plexiglas and other protective barriers. Of course, we hope to be testing and tracing as comprehensively as anybody can. We’ve already set aside several hundred dollars for the temporary as isolation of people who test positive, so there’s more than that. We have six teams arranged around these goals. And I’m working with them on a daily basis to make sure we use all the time we have to get ready for August 24. Gary Bisbee 7:21 It sounds like new learning models are being developed at the core of your approach. Would that be an accurate thing to say? Mitch Daniels 7:29 Yes, it would people have been reminded during this experience that catastrophes like this, it’s been noted for a long time that don’t so much create brand new trends as they do accelerate trends that were already in motion. And the hybridization of learning using more remote instruction is something that’s been called for and slowly coming through the ponderous institution that is higher education in America. And this is obviously propelled that trend into moving into a much higher gear. Gary Bisbee 8:02 I was just wondering about Purdue global and whether that gave Purdue a jumpstart on understanding online learning? Mitch Daniels 8:10 Yes, it did. We purchased an existing and very successful online university teaching a new student group. That is to say, adult learners trying to enhance their marketability and their incomes and success in life. And we did that in part because we weren’t, as far as I was concerned, learning enough fast enough about this new world of online education. And once again, hiring has been one of the most ossified sectors it’s been so insulated and protected makes me think of healthcare in some ways. Gary Bisbee 8:44 And we’ll get to that in a minute governor. Mitch Daniels 8:47 And it was in business terms a “build or buy” decision. We bought it. And yes, it has helped us a lot. We know a whole lot more than we did. We are still learning like everyone, but there are certainly ways not to completely replace for most students, at least traditional students there’s still invaluable learning that happens on a campus learning from more intimate contact with faculty and learning from in our case, certainly the laboratory experience. The undergraduate research that we try to make a universal on our campus and learning from each other and students learning from each other. So I’m very, very glad Purdue Global is succeeding on its own. But it has also certainly been a learning experience for us at the mothership. Gary Bisbee 9:35 Well, it was a prescient decision by you and the board at Purdue so well done as an educator. Another question comes to mind which is the primary-secondary students are missing at least three months, maybe more in the classroom. Any thoughts about what long term impact that might have on them? Mitch Daniels 9:54 Can’t be positive. I think some colleges… I’d like to think ours is warranted. Pretty good, pretty credible job of finishing the semester remotely. But I don’t hear anything good about what happened in K-12. And I’m not blaming it, I don’t think we should blame anybody they had even less experience with this we did. But I think it was a highly unsatisfactory experience as we certainly hear this from parents of incoming freshmen. They got a few weeks exposure to online at least at the K-12 level, and it did not impress them at all. But I again, it’s like so much else about this experience. A lot of mistakes have been made. A lot of things have not been done well, but I’d probably be more charitable and forgiving and some people have been I don’t think second-guessing something so new and novel should go too far. Gary Bisbee 10:49 There are many more important things in sports that COVID has changed and affected, obviously but college sports are a big part of our society. Who makes a decision on returning to college competition? Is that the NCAA, the conferences, or schools themselves? Mitch Daniels 11:04 I don’t think schools themselves can do it. I’m not sure any individual conference can do it maybe in one or two exceptional cases. Now, I think it’ll have to be a much more collective decision. And this is another trend by the way that was already underway. People were saying what we’re doing is unsustainable, and in some cases, irresponsible, so much money and so forth. And that reform was necessary and probably inevitable. And now I think again, this has been accelerated a lot every day now. But like so many other things. It will not look just the same when this is over. Gary Bisbee 11:50 Yeah, for sure. On to healthcare and education, which you brought up earlier. You encompass higher ed as President of Purdue of course and healthcare by sitting on the board of a healthcare IT company and having been an executive at Eli Lilly, what do higher education and healthcare have in common, Mitch? Mitch Daniels 12:09 A lot. I wrote a somewhat whimsical newspaper column about this a couple three years ago. And I think the parallels are pretty obvious. First of all, both of us are selling what is deemed the necessity of your home. Obviously, your health is your first priority and the college degree has seemed like a must-do item to many people. You have little or no transparency in pricing, people can’t tell exactly what they’re paying or whether it’s too much or whether there’s better value available somewhere else. Biggest parallel is both areas are awash in third party financing, which is to say people are insulated and don’t feel the true cost of what they’re consuming. In the case of fire, they may feel it later because a lot of it may have gotten borrowed that they didn’t feel at the time. I sometimes say if you tried to if you set out to do design a system built for overpricing, it would look a lot like that? Well, in both cases, there’s been incredible pricing power, that is to say, the ability to raise tuition, raise healthcare prices, and you don’t lose business. Some cases in higher ed, you actually got more business because people had no other way than the sticker price to judge quality. The other parallel did observe for a long time that these two sectors for all their size and importance have lagged in terms of effective use of technology. I think it’s even more true in higher ed than it is in healthcare. But in both cases, you haven’t seen the efficiency gains from technology that it is brought to essentially every other realm of life. Gary Bisbee 13:44 Correct. A crisis, as you pointed out, generally accelerates trends already underway. So what were the trends in higher ed that will be accelerated through this crisis? Mitch Daniels 13:55 Right. One is that we’ve discussed already was using new forms of education on and so forth, no question a lot of that is going to stick. There were already forecasts for quite some time without a weed out in higher education, you got viewers, we’re not making enough children in this country. So you have 18-year-olds entering the system, pricing well out of control that finally there’s resistance there and you got a cost structure that’s very difficult to change. This rather unusual arrangement of tenure that we have a means that it’s hard to adjust a cost structure to deal with a financial challenge. Anyway, we’ve been losing about a dozen schools a year, little ones generally winking out here and there, you’re gonna see a lot more of that you already have. I told somebody the other day that some of these small super expensive private schools are the 80-year-old as medics of this area, that is to say, they were extremely vulnerable to start with, and this episode we’re going through is probably going to be fatal or permanently impaired. A whole lot more of them. Gary Bisbee 15:01 Can universities sustain their current revenue model? You’re suggesting high costs third party payers, lack of transparency, and so on. But if the bulk of classes are online, will the customer perceive that the current revenue model is sustainable? Mitch Daniels 15:18 Short answer’s no. The model probably wasn’t sustainable. It was already starting to fray and fail in some cases. And this I think, is really exposed and absolutely the sudden exposure of many more people, to at least today’s version of online education, has convinced many of them that it’s not the same as the full experience and they’re right. We think that at our place that the quality of the instruction can be maintained and that we do in fact we insist on it. But that leaves out all the other learning that can it comes from being on the campus. I should add that we’re not completely unique. We may have been steps ahead of some. But a very high percentage of our on-campus students, were already taking at least one online course every year. A lot of them in the summer but others while they’re on campus during the regular school year, and there’s nothing new about that. But again, that alone leaves out an awful lot of participatory learning that can only come from being in the community we call what you’re discussing relative to higher ed, affordability, and healthcare. Gary Bisbee 16:29 And much of the discussion that you’re having about higher ed is applicable of course to health care which leads to another question. Many people are speaking about a new normal for healthcare because of the crisis. Sounds like we’re going to see something similar in higher ed, but what are your thoughts about what might constitute a new normal for higher ed, Mitch Daniels 16:51 I’m tempted to quote Joe Inline in 1949 when somebody has asked him about the historical meaning of the French Revolution, and he said too soon to tell. I do think it’s a little too soon to tell. But almost certainly, there will be, I think, finally a flight to quality and flight to value. I think that we’re going to see a shakeout of many of the small like colleges. This may look like many of the small rural hospitals that have been either consolidated up or simply closed for lack of sufficient business. And I do believe there’ll be a lasting replacement of expensive untouchable labor with either more contingent faculty that’s been going on anyway, in many places, not at our place. Incidentally, we still have one of the highest ratios of tenure track faculty in the country cited. In other places, there’s already been a shift to so-called contingent or temporary, and the next transition will be to technologically deliver instruction in on a much broader scale. After that, I can’t tell you. Don’t bet against the model entirely. A lot of appeal to it. And there’s still a lot of value in it when it’s well done. Gary Bisbee 18:07 Yeah, for sure. We’d like to focus on leadership in these conversations, thinking about the change that might be coming. As the leader of the institution. What opportunity does a crisis like this give you to tweak the model or change the model? Mitch Daniels 18:25 There’s no question. That’s the case. I guess the question is, how much of that opportunity will boards and leaders choose to exercise or be forced to exercise. But I don’t think any of the changes we’re talking about were not speculated about or taught or called for before. It’s just that now their urgency and in many cases in the necessity of doing on this is more plain. Gary Bisbee 18:48 Turn into politics. You of course were a two-term governor of Indiana, led OMB during the Bush administration. The presidential election is six months away. How much of a role will COVID play do you think in the presidential election? Mitch Daniels 19:03 Well, it has to be central, but I don’t think we have any idea yet. In what way? I think there will at some stage, and it probably happens before the fall, there will be as we learn more, and people live this more, I think you’re already beginning to see a lot of questions about whether the rather absolutist approach we have taken with lockdowns and so forth was really the wisest course. And that may be more debated by far what but again, we will just have to see how the epidemiology moves as well as the economy. But if in fact, it remains the case that this is a disease that is especially or is very dangerous in certain subpopulations and not particularly dangerous elsewhere. Then I think you’ll see a lot of second-guessing some would probably, you know, in called for. But that’s what happens in elections. Gary Bisbee 20:02 Just to make that point in a recent Washington Post commentary, you referred to HRD, which was an acronym for hindsight recrimination disorder. Can you share with us? What prompted the writing of that commentary, Mitch? Mitch Daniels 20:15 Oh, it was just on my mind that we have such an instinct in this tribal society we’ve drifted into for people to pounce on every opportunity to castigate the other side, whoever, whichever side you’re not on. And we’re seeing it already with people who are spending more time arguing about whose fault this is, then they are trying to fix the problem. But it’s as I just suggested, it may prove easy over time to say the Swedes were the smart ones. We destroyed a lot of lives and actually cost a lot of lives by reacting as we did. I wrote the column just to say how about we all just forswear that people are doing the best they can. They’ve been dealing with inadequate information. We didn’t understand the bug to start with, in a way as well as we already do. And wouldn’t it be better to just indicate all tell ourselves right now, in whatever direction things take, let’s just stipulate to the good intentions and the best efforts of all the people who’ve been working on this now? And some of their judgments inevitably will not look smart, later. But let’s not claim that it was all because they had a hidden agenda or some special interest of their own. You know, the example I gave was the Iraq war where the decision that looked very flawed, in retrospect was built on the best intelligence available at the time. So it ought to be enough to say, those were bad decisions. How do we make sure that next time the intelligence is better than the choices made are better, but you don’t have to go around tell say that everybody was a liar when they want. Gary Bisbee 21:56 Yeah, for sure. Well, you made an interesting point also in that same comment, I believe, which is, you wondered if the family might make a resurgence around a dinner table since everybody’s working from home? Mitch Daniels 22:08 Well, yeah, actually, that was a separate column. But I did. I was scratching around early on this thing for things that might be positive coming out of it. And that was one that people might rediscover some of the virtues of family life, including eating at home, which was only happening about half the time in America prior to this. So I also expressed however, the hope that maybe this would bring our tribes together a little bit more and get out of some of this partisanship. That one hasn’t worked out so far. Sometimes there are silver linings and I speculated on to in that piece. Well, Gary Bisbee 22:41 Well, if it’s not COVID. What will cool down the hyper-partisanship in Washington, Mitch? Mitch Daniels 22:46 I wish I could tell you. Unfortunately, the data now tell us something that I hoped was not the case. What I hope was the case and there was still commentary to this effect fairly recently that there were people who were talking about an exhausted idea. The idea being that the hyper partisans, were a small percentage on either end, and they dominate the discussion. They dominate the airwaves, they dominate the primary process, which is a big issue, the process by which the two major parties select their officeholders. Unless you’re the one I used to be that it just could be that at least for now, most Americans and I think it’s more of cultural expression than, say an economic matter, have chosen to try chosen a team. And once you’re there, it’s hard to get past that, you know, I suppose one party or the other could suffer and sooner or later, we’ll take the seat and regroup in a way that created a new consensus that’s happened a few times in our history and some political scientists has forecasts that it’s going to happen again, maybe that might be the way to a broader and a little less partisan future. Gary Bisbee 23:58 So going back to the Bullmoose Party with Roosevelt, I guess Mitch Daniels 24:01 The collapse of the Whigs produced the Republican Party, the collapse of the Federalists produced a long era of dominance by the democrats the day so it doesn’t happen often, but it can happen. Gary Bisbee 24:12 You made reference to 9/11. I believe you were in the White House literally that day, then 9/11 happened. Can you share with us some of your thoughts and how that they evolved? Mitch Daniels 24:23 Well, I remember pretty well. In other situations you can look back and say, Gosh, even the minimal preparations hadn’t been made. No, I remember there was no communication system at all, or literally somebody running around going to tell everyone to leave. That was the alarm system that morning. And of course, just like this situation. In a flash, basically, all of the priorities fell away. And dealing with that issue became the dominant assignment really for everybody. I certainly spent the next month working on very little else or everything I did seemed related one way or another, to the response whether it was managing the support of the rebuilding. Oh, gosh, the compensation of the victims was a huge issue. How do you do that fairly and with some sense of fiscal restraint? How do you get the airline’s protected so they get back in business at all? Issues like that. It’s a little bit of fog thinking back, but certainly a lot of very vivid memories in there. Gary Bisbee 25:32 One thing the COVID crisis and that crisis had in common was lack of information on uncertainty. Right when it was happening, how long did it take you to actually figure out what had happened? Mitch Daniels 25:43 Oh, I think we did it almost instantly. Now what to do about that? It took a little while longer. And yet, if you think about it, the President had this nation in motion against the Haven harbor in Afghanistan within a couple of months at the time, and it seemed like every day was an eternity. But in fact, the response got going pretty quickly. And that was certainly true on the home front, the rebuilding front. I will say that there were lots of overreactions. And that’s only natural in a situation like this one. I remember so much as every congressman competing outbid the next one on what they could buy for so-called Homeland Security. And later on as governor, I saw a lot of, oh, I don’t know, unused gas masks of rotting away in some fireman’s trunk in rural Indiana. But excess and overreaction are I guess a natural consequence of an event is terrible. Gary Bisbee 26:40 As a result of 911 of course, Homeland Security was created. Do you see any kind of similar response to this crisis? Perhaps a cabinet department for overseeing future health crises? Mitch Daniels 26:53 Oh, boy, I hope not. We may have needed more PPE and advanced research in this area but what we don’t need another cabinet department. No, I think they bureaucratic machinery is there and if anything in surplus, and you know, the existing, certainly the agencies, HHS and the Department of Homeland Security that was created among them not be able to take the assignments to. So we’re better prepared next time Gary Bisbee 27:17 Thinking about the role of a governor during a crisis like this. Several the governors are beginning to reopen their states. Now, of course, uncertain situations, the state has multiple regions, and this surge is different in each region. How difficult does it become for a governor to deal with an issue like this? Mitch Daniels 27:37 One, of course, is difficult, and then I have a lot of sympathy for them. And I think it as a general rule, they’re doing it very well. There’s a reason that always no matter when they’re asked that people express greater confidence in their state governments and usually local governments, then the federal government. And I think that confidence has probably been justified in this experience. But you know, we dealt with things not quite this long-lasting but things very, very, very serious during my time and without assignment. Half of our state was flooded and underwater for weeks and weeks and 2008 a very devastating situation. I saw the role is that making sure the necessary resources were available. Taking down obstacles is a big part of it. You have to just pull those people who want to protect turf or assert authority that gets in the way of somebody else’s doing their job, you know, demand results and every way and measure them but also try to project some sense of calm and competence. Remember that this is what you’re hired for. You know, suddenly this certainly reminds me that between the time I was elected and sworn in, I went to one or two programs somebody had for incoming governor and I was sitting around talking to a very wise at that point, retired governor, and somebody at the table said, “What’s the one thing you would encourage us to study us on or think about that we might not otherwise,” and everybody expecting me to say,” Oh, you know, education or corrections or, or environmental policy,” something/ He immediately said crisis management. He said you’re gonna have one sometime. And you don’t want to start your homework man. And he was right. Gary Bisbee 29:28 He was right to the point then. So what’s the governor’s most important responsibility during the crisis? Mitch Daniels 29:34 Yeah, I think it’s the things I just talked about. You have to mobilize centralized people. It’s not usually turf protection, usually trying to do what they think they’re supposed to and every agency wants to round. So on its own thing, you get a lot of waste. You don’t centralize necessarily procurement that way, but worse, we’re still folks getting each other’s way. I still remember going to one of our worst-hit counties early on in that flood that I talked about and beginning to discover all the different needs people had food, income, temporary housing, I lost my identification, everything. And I remember saying to somebody I want every single agency, state, local or federal in one building, take the know-how about that high school gym down the street, which is actually what they use. We made the model everywhere. So that was one place and we put one person in charge so that we simplified the task for each citizen who in need. That’s the sort of thing that doesn’t happen naturally unless somebody cracks a whip, and that is that somebody is usually the governor, Gary Bisbee 30:40 Peggy Noonan in a recent column suggested that politicians need to provide hope to their constituents during a crisis. How do you think about that, Mitch? Mitch Daniels 30:49 Yes, of course. But when I said something about trying to project calm and competence and encourage people to believe that we’ll get through this, you know, I think frankly there has been again with good intentions, people thought if we don’t really drive home the dangers here, people won’t cooperate. So they effectively scared a whole nation into their homes and probably the right thing to do, at least initially. But at the same time, encouraging people to see that, like all problems ultimately, this one’s manageable. You know, another person I taken in as an old friend of mine, I read every word she writes, she’s great. Another person in that category is George Gilder and George wrote a piece about the same time rather ironically, for him. Praising politicians in Georgia as one of the most astute knowledgeable scholars of science that we have. But he pointed out and I thought this was so important that science has to inform our public decisions, but it can’t default the whole system of choice to them or to any one dimension, we hire politicians like her and the President to balance interests. That is a pretty fair definition as leaders to make wise choices, reconciling competing interests. You know, for every benefit, there is a cost. Somebody has to calculate these things and try to think about the overall public interest and survey. I think, in part because so many of our politicians have no scientific background, they, in some cases been too deferential to people whose life mission is one dimensional, God bless them for it. But that’s not the mission of the people in public office. By the way, George wrote something I think that’s pertinent to this conversation. In that piece. He said, the healthcare system is not separate from the economy, but a crucial part of the healthcare system saves lives. The economy provides everything we need to live, there are not and never will be scientific answers to all public problems. That’s where the politicians coming in or should work. Gary Bisbee 32:59 Well said, we began our discussion talking about Purdue, which brings to mind governance as of course you’re on several boards. But how active has the Purdue board been and working through your decision to open classes in the fall? Mitch Daniels 33:14 They’re very central to it, they have to be. You know, my view is that too many college boards have abdicated over the last decades, their full responsibility. I mean, look at the bylaws of any school, public or private, and you will always find that ultimate authority rests. None of that has been ceded or conceited over time to administrators, faculty, and others. And I think it explains many of the problems that higher ed has. So I’ve always felt the Purdue board out to be primary everything we do, we have already taken. We have three meetings scheduled in the space of a month. At the first of those they already approved the first six actions of what will ultimately be a multiple of that, that we will take and I will take all the actions and everything that we discussed earlier and more to that board for their review and I and I hope approval. You know, at the first meeting, for instance, they mandated that a change in our academic calendar, we won’t have a labor day break, we won’t have a fall break. Why? Because we don’t want people coming and going unnecessarily more avoidable to and from the campus. Possibly hastening the spread, they mandated the maximum possible testing and tracing regime they mandated standard flu vaccinations before anybody can work or study at Purdue, etc. I’ve said many, many times to audiences of influential people like those who probably listen to this podcast that if you’re on a college board or in a position of influence as a prominent alum or a donor for goodness sakes, press for reform press for more value and affordability press for changes that protect thought all these things. And if you’re not prepared to do that, let somebody else have the job. I have to believe this is true of a lot of hospitals and healthcare boards too. You have been close to enough to some of them that some love the institution so much that they don’t challenge it very often and as often as they should. Gary Bisbee 35:20 Now, that’s great advice. So I take your board meetings have been virtual, Mitch Daniels 35:24 Yes, is that the chairman and I were in the room at the campus and everybody else was working. I think that’ll continue, certainly through the next two. And beyond that, we’ll just play the ball where it lies. Gary Bisbee 35:35 But one of the questions I’m asking all of the health system CEOs is any tips for how to manage a smooth virtual board meeting. Mitch Daniels 35:44 You know, so many of us have become much more familiar with these technologies. Once again, that’s something that will not revert completely to the way it was before because in many cases, I think they’re superior I think meetings and my experience, I don’t know that yours That meetings tend to be a little tighter than they might have been in person. Not everybody feels like they have to speak to every single point. And when people do get their minutes on the screen, they tend to be a little more concise and thoughtful about what they say. So it’s very like I think, other forms of work or the instruction on our campus, not a full substitute. But some blend of virtual and traditional is probably what we’re going to have when the smoke clears. Gary Bisbee 36:28 But back to leadership for a moment, what are the characteristics of a CEO or president of a university that will allow them to excel during a crisis? Mitch Daniels 36:38 Oh, well, you know, I could make all the obvious points about what’s helpful, but I think that the one that may not be quite as obvious is that sometimes it can be hard for someone raised in a system in a sector, socialized to that sector a lifer, you know in higher ed or in like, possibly in Healthcare to move as aggressively decisively, as one of these situations often calls for. People are just naturally reluctant to close down the department they used to lead, to let go the person they’ve known for so long, it can just be harder for all the most human of reasons. That’s not an argument for rushing out and bringing in an outsider, it’s just to say that boards who have people who have been particularly built their whole career in a given institution or system probably have to be a little extra vigilant, a little extra, maybe aggressive themselves. Gary Bisbee 37:37 Mitch, this has just been a terrific interview. We thank you for your time. One last question, if I could. That is you’ve lived through September 11 and were intimately involved in that. Your floods in Indiana, the Great Recession. What advice do you give us all for just balancing what we’re feeling now with this crisis and what some kind of normality might be in the future. Mitch Daniels 38:00 If I’m imagining correctly, that sort of leadership, people who would take advantage of your podcast… be vocal about the need for some balance. About the costs that aren’t as visible as the current anecdote of someone who is victimized by this virus. I think it’s time anyway. Now for medical voices, scientific voices. I said the same thing that two counterparts from other universities the other day to speak up, again, without any criticism of choices made up to now, but to talk about where we go next, and help people to understand the dangers that that aren’t there, as well as the ones that are and understand that we will get past this but we don’t want to do too much permanent damage or unnecessary damage to people in their lives because of timidity about that transition. Gary Bisbee 38:54 Governor, many thanks again for your time today. Just an excellent job. Thanks Mitch. Mitch Daniels 38:58 I enjoyed it. Gary Bisbee 38:59 This episode of fireside chat is produced by Strafire please subscribe to Fireside Chat on Apple podcasts or wherever you’re listening right now. Be sure to rate and review fireside chat so we can continue to explore key issues with innovative and dynamic healthcare leaders. 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The higher ed sector has been relatively immune (or perhaps resistant?) to change since its inception, but in the past 10-15 years, and especially since the Great Recession, multiple things have changed, forcing changes on it. We now are seeing market forces unleashed, including consolidation, mergers/acquisitions, and closures as we’ve rarely seen before (and not in my lifetime). Understanding Higher Ed’s Situation To put what is happening in higher ed in perspective, we examine the higher ed marketplace through the lens of the product lifecycle (PLC). This is a tool marketing applies to products, but it also is relevant when examining market segments or industries. The PLC is made up of four stages: introduction, growth, maturity, and decline. The introduction stage is characterized by the organization building brand awareness; The growth stage is characterized by strong growth, and the organization building brand preference and increasing market share; The maturity stage is characterized by strong growth diminishing as “competition” rise and competitors offer similar “products.” This results in multiple possible marketing strategies including cutting prices, rethinking positioning and branding, and market consolidation; and The decline stage is characterized by sales significantly declining or having declined. In many cases, the product (or business) goes out of business or, as a last result, finds an acquirer (merger or acquisition). Higher ed finds itself in the maturity to declining stages as characterized by declining enrollments, lack of differentiation in the higher ed marketplace, and an increase in market consolidation (M&A activity) and/or college closings. There are many reasons why higher ed finds itself in this situation.    First, higher ed enrollment has decreased for a myriad of factors, not the least of which is changing demographics, i.e., the numbers of the “traditional” college age student has decreased.  Compounding this decrease, higher ed is becoming perceived as elitist, and many cannot afford its cost and/or the resultant student debt.  In other words, institutions are competing for a shrinking pool of students, and it costs more for an education that some feel isn’t worth the money spent or debt incurred. Second, there is an overabundance of education institutions – too many colleges and universities, and, with rare exceptions, they are offering the same types of programs, e.g., how many MBA programs do we need???  This has resulted in significant economic pressure on those small- to medium-sized colleges and universities who have a relatively small (or no) endowment. This pressure is compounded by cost curves that have been carved into stone over the last several decades. This is played out by larger institutions undercutting smaller institutions on price.  For example, the president of the University of Virginia recently announced that tuition will be free for families earning less than $80,000 a year, and if they earn less than $30,000 a year, they will get room and board. In another example, New York University is not charging their medical school students any tuition. Both of these institutions have large endowments to be able to do this, but how can the small- to mid-sized institutions compete? Lastly, there is pressure for the nonprofit higher ed sector to figure out what to do about the out-of-favor for-profit institutions. These three reasons, aside from the fact that there are market dynamics at play – there is more supply than demand – are driving many of the changes we’re seeing right now in higher ed. Mature and Declining Markets Give Rise to M&A Activity Some smaller colleges and universities under financial stress are looking for ways to solve their problems, and one way is merging with or being merged into another institution. The for-profit sector is a great example of where there has been significant M&A activity, e.g., Purdue and Kaplan forming Purdue Global, Strayer acquiring Capella, etc., as for-profits figure out their future when nonprofits are clearly in favor (and for-profits are clearly out-of-favor). This not completely changed, even with the change in administration. Mergers aren’t the only solution for this problem. Many for-profits are attempting the transition to nonprofit status, e.g., Grand Canyon University and University of Phoenix. However, this isn't always the easiest thing to do because of the regulatory permissions required from the Dept of Education and the institution’s accreditation body. Additionally, it doesn't solve their perception problems, at least immediately. Multiple Reasons for M&A Activity There are multiple reasons for increased M&A activity in the higher ed sector besides market forces at work, and we need to look at the reasons why M&A activity occurs.  Basically, there are three main reasons: New markets / customers New technologies Gain efficiencies in operations National University System is a good example of this – they’re on a buying spree and for all the right reasons. The National University System, a not-for-profit, currently has three nonprofit institutions under its umbrella: National University, the original mothership; JFK University in northern California, and the City University of Seattle, but over the past year, it has acquired Patten University for its technology and Northcentral University for its students and programs. M&A for New Technologies. In its acquisition of Patten University, NU acquired one of the best LMS systems in the marketplace. The system, which was called University Now, has been renamed Flex Course, and NU has adapted it for their own use. As part of the acquisition, National also acquired Patten’s courses which were heavily competency-based. This is also a good advantage in that they have been able to teach out the Patten programs and integrate the learnings into their current undergraduate programs. One thing that was critical in the acquisition was the ability to modify the LMS to ensure NU was able to continue to satisfy Title IV funding requirements which are driven by Carnegie units. Again, due diligence was critical in this respect. The technology was relatively new, and therefore it was easier to adapt it to satisfy Title IV funding requirements when doing CBE. Ultimately, NU has great hopes that this acquisition will help them to transform the online learning experience at all its universities. In other words, National did a great job in completing its due diligence. M&A as a Growth Strategy. There are two ways that institution grow. One is through organic growth, i.e., you decide you will move into the online sector and you build your program from scratch. Many institutions have done this, and the most recent (and possibly the most famous) of these is the announced online undergraduate program at the University of Pennsylvania, the first of the Ivy League institutions to go online with a program. The second strategy is acquisition, which is how the National University System is expanding their doctoral offerings. NU acquired Northcentral University (pending appropriate WSCUC and DOE approvals), an online for-profit university that offers mostly graduate education programs at the master and doctoral levels. This fills a gap that NU had at the doctoral level and adds to its ability to offer online and blended courses. National is already predominantly online – 51 percent of its students are in synchronous or asynchronous online programs – but its acquisition of Northcentral was critical in three ways. First, Northcentral is completely online and has 24 programs, the majority of which are doctoral, an area NU wanted to expand its offerings. Second, the Northcentral faculty are high quality and located in nearly all of the 50 states. The model that they use is one-on-one similar to the Oxford Tutorial Model, which having your faculty are distributed across the country is an advantage when using this pedagogy. Lastly, National acquires a pretty efficient OPM support back-office. As far as the culture goes, NU expects they will get some real experience bringing the for-profit Northcentral University into the NU System and converting it to a not-for-profit. National’s acquisitions have been very strategic in nature – they have looked at multiple opportunities and walked away from many. With these two, they’ve made good choices in line with their overall strategic plan and done the due diligence to ensure they are picking the right horse. Remember that Culture Issue We Had… Culture is critical when considering a merger. Years ago, when HP acquired Compaq, it was the culture differences that most impacted the success (or lack thereof) of the merger. The Purdue Global situation is a good example of the challenges merger entities can face. Purdue “bought” Kaplan, i.e., Purdue got the franchise of the online courseware from the Kaplan organization, while Kaplan retained the back-office processing and support, and the OPM.  Kaplan’s portion of the entity, still for-profit, is being paid for by the profits they're going to make, while the courses are offered through the not-for-profit Purdue Global. Many consider the merger between Purdue, a Tier 1 research university with a very high reputation and traditional faculty, and Kaplan, a good institution in its own right but a for-profit online, a very gutsy move – especially when one considers the faculty culture aspects. Why is there resistance to this change is relatively simple to understand. Culture. The integration of cultures is never easy.  Sometimes, when two cultures come together as Purdue and Kaplan are attempting to do, they merge like oil and water. And that's one of the most important things that folks doing mergers and acquisitions must think about – how the cultures align – because more than anything else, it is culture that can destroy a merger and eliminate the efficiencies that the merger is designed to take advantage of. Take for instance the merger of Kaplan and Purdue. Kaplan, a for-profit, and Purdue, a R1 university, are very different cultures, especially when it comes to faculty.  Regardless of the high quality of Kaplan, an institution which has stayed pretty much out of trouble in terms of the scrutiny of the for-profit community, Kaplan’s online degree programs themselves are a challenge to Purdue’s “in classroom” campus programs that a R1 institutions are experienced in providing. Faculty, and especially traditional, research faculty, generally tend not to like a lot of change, nor are they wild about online education. And we can just imagine what a traditional, research faculty such as Purdue’s felt about merging with a for-profit online institution. From all reports, the faculty was furious when the merger was first announced – their “brand” was being diluted by this incorporated new global entity called Purdue Global that included a for-profit institution. The merger has progressed, and faculty and administration appear to have come to a truce, at least for now. That said, Purdue is spending significantly to market Purdue Global – it is in almost every market with TV and radio ads – while trying to keep marketing positioning separate between Purdue and Purdue Global.  It has yet to be seen as to whether they are able to keep their faculty happy about it or the branding separate, but that’s a whole different kettle of fish. The Future of the For-Profit Sector The for-profit sector is not going to disappear, as much as much of higher ed would like it to. However, there are market forces at play here too, and the for-profit sector may morph its way towards a higher concentration of those who survived to be distributors of OPM or programs.  An example of this is MOOCs.  When you look at several of the MOOC organizations, e.g., Udacity, EDX, etc., these organizations are not just providing learning experiences, they are turning into distributors of traditional degree programs, including even graduate programs for R1 universities. This, plus being obvious merger targets, will continue the upheaval in this sector. We believe that we will see more mergers and less of the organic growth from for-profits, including for-profits becoming part of nonprofits similar to what is happened with Purdue Global, as well as mergers to share back office services. One example of this is TCS Education System, who provides back-office services for a number of institutions. These types of mergers could have a major impact in the online space, especially for small to medium-sized institutions, as it is almost impossible for them to establish the infrastructure to do an effective job in online education – the only way for them to get and/or stay competitive in the online space is to “outsource” back-office functionality. Federal Funding and Accreditation There are also a number of changes in regulatory and accreditation factors between Obama and the Trump administrations that are impacting higher ed. Federal Funding. In a recent talk given by Secretary DeVos, her current position is focused not on the change in the standards but rather more on making Title IV funds available for a broader variety of learning experiences. She conveyed a pretty strong feeling that we should not be committing all postsecondary education funding to what we now call hire traditional higher ed, but to improve the flow of federal funds to retraining programs. Accreditation. There are not a lot of people who believe that we will move dramatically away from the kind of accreditation process we currently have for a myriad of reasons, despite the upcoming Neg Reg process which begins in early 2019 focusing on accreditation and innovation. Big changes from in accreditation will need to include a willingness to think in competency-based terms. This will require a major shift away from the strict Carnegie method of determining learning, to more of a competency-based approach to assessing learning outcomes.  Simply put, it is much more important to know that people are learning and being able to demonstrate learning outcomes than it is to demonstrate how long they sat in a seat. However, changing this mindset will be very challenging as it has been this way for well over 100 years. Additionally, those with marketing backgrounds know that accreditation is the university system's greatest barrier to entry. It is important that universities meet a quality level, but the current system requires institutions develop prima facie evidence of quality, and many potential competitors get frustrated before they get accredited. This could be one reason why the accreditation system as we currently know it does not (and will not) change. Three Things University Presidents Should Consider Before Merger If you are considering merging with another institution, there are three things you should consider. First, culture. You must examine the cultures of the two organizations to ensure that they are mergeable, i.e., that the two cultures are not contrary to one another. There are clear differences between for-profit and not-for-profit cultures, and you must “test the water” and see just how much of a business the for-profit institution sees themselves as vs. it being a learning institution. Second, regardless as to whether it is a for-profit or not-for-profit entity, does the acquired institution have the programs, faculty and administrative support that is consistent and that will integrate effectively with your own. This is critical but especially critical with respect to faculty. Faculty generates and own the content, and it is essential you have a group who can drive the learning experience for students. That's not something that you can import easily – you must make sure that it fits your own model about how it's going to work. Thirdly, you have to look at the institution as a business. You (obviously) don’t want to take on something that is so broken that it cannot be fixed no matter how hard you try. For example, you have to ask yourself, are they hopelessly lost as a business model? Are their programs of interest to the marketplace? One of the biggest challenges institutions are having today is pruning and culling their programs, and leaders must have the courage to look faculty in the eye and say, “by the way, that course is costing us lots of money, and you only have five people in it. We know you may like it, but we can't continue to teach a course that students don't want.” That can be a really tough academic decision, but one that must be made. Wrapping Up We believe that the disruption going on in higher ed has just started and that surviving and thriving in the higher ed space will take intense focus to fine tune the systems, processes, and cost structure if institutions are going to compete and survive. Competition for the adult student has heated up dramatically. Whether we like it or not, this is not only because more traditional institutions have decided to get into the market, but also because multiple institutions are now competing on price, including those that have state subsidies federal subsidies, and/or have large endowments. This can make it very difficult for smaller institutions to compete against as it allows larger institutions to “give away” of their offerings. Bullet Points: The higher ed sector has been relatively immune (or perhaps resistant?) to change since its inception, but in the past 10-15 years, and especially since the Great Recession, multiple things have changed, forcing changes on it. We now are seeing market forces unleashed, including consolidation, mergers/acquisitions, and closures as we’ve rarely seen before (and not in my lifetime). Higher ed finds itself in the maturity to declining stages of the product lifecycle as characterized by declining enrollments, lack of differentiation in the higher ed marketplace, and an increase in market consolidation (M&A activity) and/or college closings. Some smaller colleges and universities under financial stress are looking for ways to solve their problems, and one way is merging with or being merged into another institution. There are multiple reasons for increased M&A activity in the higher ed sector besides market forces at work, and we need to look at the reasons why M&A activity occurs.  Basically, there are three main reasons: New markets/customers, new technologies, or gains in efficiencies in operations. Culture is critical when considering a merger, but the integration of cultures is never easy.  We believe that we will see more mergers and less of the organic growth from for-profits, including for-profits becoming part of nonprofits. The Ed Department under Secretary DeVos believes it should not be committing all postsecondary education funding to what we now call hire traditional higher ed, but to improve the flow of federal funds to retraining programs. Big changes from in accreditation will need to include a willingness to think in competency-based terms. This will require a major shift away from the strict Carnegie method of determining learning, to more of a competency-based approach to assessing learning outcomes.  One reason why the accreditation system as we currently know it does not (and will not) change is that accreditation is the university system's greatest barrier to entry. If you are considering merging with another institution, there are three things you should consider: Are the cultures mergeable? Does the acquired institution see themselves as a business vs. being a learning institution (or vice versa)? Does the acquired institution have the programs, faculty and administrative support that is consistent and that will integrate effectively with your own? Is the acquired institution in good financial situation, or is it so broken that it cannot be fixed no matter how hard you try?  Are they hopelessly lost as a business model? Are their programs of interest to the marketplace? The disruption going on in higher ed has just started, and that surviving and thriving in the higher ed space will take intense focus to fine tune the systems, processes, and cost structure if institutions are going to compete and survive. Competition for the adult student has heated up dramatically.   Links to Articles, Apps, or websites mentioned during the interview: Product Lifecycle: http://www.quickmba.com/marketing/product/lifecycle/ National University System: https://nu.edu Department of Education: https://www.ed.gov/ WASC Senior College and University Commission: https://www.wscuc.org/ Guests Social Media Links: Gerry Czarnecki Twitter: https://twitter.com/gerryczarnecki?lang=en Gerry Czarnecki Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theczar/ Gerry Czarnecki website: http://gerryczarnecki.com/  Your Social Media Links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drdrumm/ Twitter: @thechangeldr Email: podcast@changinghighered.com and drumm@thechangeleader.com

Purdue University is a $2 billion a year industry , so from time to time in our monthly conversations with President Mitch Daniels, we have to talk about money. This month, we ask whether the huge marketing budget for online enterprise Purdue Global – some estimate it’s close to $100 million – is potentially stepping on the marketing budgets of other Purdue programs. The University already had some online offerings and some that attracted non-traditional students, so is their biggest competition now another Purdue-branded product? Also, President Daniels understandably gets a little cross when we point out that very little of his so-called “at-risk” pay is actually at-risk, but for the first time this year, the school’s Trustees gave him a 100% rating on his assessment. So on this month’s program we suggest a name change that might better reflect the facts on the ground, and might be more palatable to Purdue employees who might actually be at risk if they lost any of their pay.

Quite a number of journalists took issue recently when Purdue President Mitch Daniels attempted to argue in his regular column for the Washington Post that there was too much scrutiny of government allowed by public records laws and attempts at transparency. On this month's conversation with him, he says he’s in favor of those types of laws in principle, but do his actions – including using processes that restrict transparency in the State Street and Purdue Global deals – match up with his rhetoric?

Andy Rosen, chairman and CEO of Kaplan Inc. sits down with Jeanne to cover everything in postsecondary education, from new innovations happening at Kaplan’s Purdue Global to how Higher Ed is speaking -- or in some cases, not speaking -- with the K-12 community. How is the pipeline to the workforce and career development is being invested in and streamlined for an online generation? This and more on this week’s Episode 36 of Reality Check.

Meg O’Grady explains how Purdue Global can help military spouses achieve their education goals from wherever they are stationed. We also talk about the most important news of the week regarding beer and wine at overseas commissary. This Week’s Guest: Meg O’Grady, Purdue Global University Meg is Vice President of Military and Public Sector Solutions at […]

If Purdue University’s purchase of the for-profit Kaplan University can be thought of as a wedding, there were plenty of people in the audience shouting objections throughout the ceremony. The loudest were Purdue professors, who argued that the pair were far too incompatible to unite. Among those professors is David Sanders, an associate professor of biological sciences at Purdue and past chair of the university’s Faculty Senate. He organized a petition against the merger, which created what is now called Purdue University Global. When the EdSurge On Air podcast featured an interview last week with Purdue Global’s chancellor, Betty Vandenbosch, Sanders wrote in offering to share the faculty side of the story. And though the knot is already tied, he and other professors at Purdue say they would still like to have a say in how this new institution operates.