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We're back with another installment in our acclaimed "Who the Hell?" biographical series, this time turning our attention to Jake Lang: a January 6th insurrectionist turned self-styled provocateur who has built a career out of peddling hate against Muslims, Black people, Jews, women, and any other minority group he thinks he can hurt with open expressions of bigotry. Jared and Mike are joined by photojournalist Carrie Schreck, who has had multiple run-ins with Lang over the years, to trace his path from J6 "political prisoner" to his current gig manufacturing what PTI has dubbed "confrontation porn" — a genre built on shocking people face-to-face with blunt expressions of bigotry for clout and cash. This episode also includes a reported package from Jared, who traveled to Minneapolis on Aug. 22 to witness Lang's most recent stunt, where Lang found himself on the wrong end of the law... and Spider-Man's fist.Every Spider-Man villain, from Electro to Rhino, has an origin story. Jake Lang's starts on J6.Links for Carrie:Photography Portfolio (https://www.carrieschreck.com)Instagram (@rehabforcandy)Transition Music: "Embrace the Bomb" by Body Double(Special thanks to videographer Ford Fischer for allowing us to use audio from his footage in this episode. Check out his work on YouTube at News2Share.)
Welcome into the Smoke Circle for the start of season 8! The sisters have cooked up another episode of food history with part two of The Munchies That Made Us! In part one, we discussed four food staples that grew civilizations and created the classic munchies we know and love. Part two traces the origins of "The Holy Trinity" of savory stoner foods: pizza, tacos, and instant ramen. This episode shows how global trade, migration, war, and convenience shaped what we eat when the munchies hit. Along the way, we debate who has the best pizza, get delightfully sidetracked by tomato lore (did you know the tomato isn't native to Italy?!), the mystery of the taco, and what a hostage crisis did for instant ramen sales. ~~~~~~*Timestamps 01:05 - Part two preview: pizza, tacos, and instant ramen 06:31 - Recap of part one and the role of staple crops 07:30 - Why pizza belongs on every munchies list 09:58 - Focaccia, flatbreads, and the missing tomato 12:39 - Tomatoes begin in Mesoamerica, not Italy 15:03 - Columbus, Cortés, and the Columbian Exchange 19:26 - Europe mistrusts tomatoes as “wolf peaches” 27:28 - Naples, volcanic soil, and the first tomato sauce pizza 30:07 - The Margherita pizza legend and royal branding 32:24 - Pizza spreads through Italy and into the United States 38:35 - What counts as a taco and why chalupas are real 40:05 - Corn tortillas in Mesoamerica and the roots of taco culture 42:40 - One theory for the word taco from silver mines 46:37 - The “chili queens” and tacos entering American food culture 49:52 - Glenn Bell, Taco Bell, and the commercialization of tacos 54:10 - Instant ramen as one of the world's most consumed foods 56:10 - Japan closes its doors, then reopens under the Meiji Restoration 58:00 - Chinese noodle soup becomes ramen in Yokohama 59:48 - World War II destruction and the food crisis in Japan 64:28 - Momofuku Ando spots the long ramen line that sparks an idea 66:26 - The invention of shelf-stable instant noodles and the launch of Chicken Ramen 70:31 - Cup noodles and the push into the American market 73:52 - The hostage crisis accidentally becomes a massive ramen commercial 78:40 - The Shin-Yokohama Ramen Museum and ramen culture today 81:12 - Why convenience foods matter and what they trade off~~~~~*Mentioned in the Episode:Episode 90: The Werewolf Trials of Europe Half Baked (1998) Munchies List~~~~~*The Socials and Patreon!Patreon-- The Best Buds Club! Instagram - @HighTalesofHistory TikTok- @HighTalesofHistoryPod YouTube-- @High Tales of HistoryFacebook -High Tales of History or @HighTalesofHistory Email—hightailingthroughhistory@gmail.com ~~~~~~*Source Material and References:Sources:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN00PtRWjlUhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_pizzahttps://www.history.com/articles/a-slice-of-history-pizza-through-the-ageshttps://www.twistedtaco.com/the-history-of-the-tacohttps://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/where-did-the-taco-come-from-81228162/https://www.google.com/search?q=firebombing+of+japan+vs+atomic+bombshttps://ramenmuseum.nyc/history-of-ramen/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nov7lFsvBIo~~~~~~~*Intro/outro and Transition Music created all from: "Hit the Streets" Music licensed through Soundstripe on Riverside.fmCode: 5SFLA6TCMVWJERUU, EMPRILZIRAMJL8ZR
Welcome into the Smoke Circle for the start of season 8! The sisters have cooked up another episode of food history with part two of The Munchies That Made Us! In part one, we discussed four food staples that grew civilizations and created the classic munchies we know and love. Part two traces the origins of "The Holy Trinity" of savory stoner foods: pizza, tacos, and instant ramen. This episode shows how global trade, migration, war, and convenience shaped what we eat when the munchies hit. Along the way, we debate who has the best pizza, get delightfully sidetracked by tomato lore (did you know the tomato isn't native to Italy?!), the mystery of the taco, and what a hostage crisis did for instant ramen sales. ~~~~~~*Timestamps 01:05 - Part two preview: pizza, tacos, and instant ramen 06:31 - Recap of part one and the role of staple crops 07:30 - Why pizza belongs on every munchies list 09:58 - Focaccia, flatbreads, and the missing tomato 12:39 - Tomatoes begin in Mesoamerica, not Italy 15:03 - Columbus, Cortés, and the Columbian Exchange 19:26 - Europe mistrusts tomatoes as “wolf peaches” 27:28 - Naples, volcanic soil, and the first tomato sauce pizza 30:07 - The Margherita pizza legend and royal branding 32:24 - Pizza spreads through Italy and into the United States 38:35 - What counts as a taco and why chalupas are real 40:05 - Corn tortillas in Mesoamerica and the roots of taco culture 42:40 - One theory for the word taco from silver mines 46:37 - The “chili queens” and tacos entering American food culture 49:52 - Glenn Bell, Taco Bell, and the commercialization of tacos 54:10 - Instant ramen as one of the world's most consumed foods 56:10 - Japan closes its doors, then reopens under the Meiji Restoration 58:00 - Chinese noodle soup becomes ramen in Yokohama 59:48 - World War II destruction and the food crisis in Japan 64:28 - Momofuku Ando spots the long ramen line that sparks an idea 66:26 - The invention of shelf-stable instant noodles and the launch of Chicken Ramen 70:31 - Cup noodles and the push into the American market 73:52 - The hostage crisis accidentally becomes a massive ramen commercial 78:40 - The Shin-Yokohama Ramen Museum and ramen culture today 81:12 - Why convenience foods matter and what they trade off~~~~~*Mentioned in the Episode:Episode 90: The Werewolf Trials of Europe Half Baked (1998) Munchies List~~~~~*The Socials and Patreon!Patreon-- The Best Buds Club! Instagram - @HighTalesofHistory TikTok- @HighTalesofHistoryPod YouTube-- @High Tales of HistoryFacebook -High Tales of History or @HighTalesofHistory Email—hightailingthroughhistory@gmail.com ~~~~~~*Source Material and References:Sources:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN00PtRWjlUhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_pizzahttps://www.history.com/articles/a-slice-of-history-pizza-through-the-ageshttps://www.twistedtaco.com/the-history-of-the-tacohttps://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/where-did-the-taco-come-from-81228162/https://www.google.com/search?q=firebombing+of+japan+vs+atomic+bombshttps://ramenmuseum.nyc/history-of-ramen/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nov7lFsvBIo~~~~~~~*Intro/outro and Transition Music created all from: "Hit the Streets" Music licensed through Soundstripe on Riverside.fmCode: 5SFLA6TCMVWJERUU, EMPRILZIRAMJL8ZR
Graham Platner, a progressive candidate for US Senate in Maine, managed to defy an array of scandals as he rose to become the frontrunner to take on thirty-year incumbent Sen. Susan Collins. But last week, after a former romantic partner credibly accused him of rape, Platner suspended his campaign and withdrew his candidacy — leaving his supporters heartbroken and the Democratic Party scrambling to find a replacement candidate.Journalist Nathan Bernard joins Jared and Mike to break down the collapse of Platner's campaign and what comes next for Democrats who have been desperately trying to unseat Collins without success. Bernard was on the ground from day five of Platner's campaign. He walks through what Platner meant to Maine Democrats, why volunteers stuck around through earlier controversies, and how the mood darkened after a rape allegation ended his political aspirations.With Platner out, the question is whether an alternate candidate like Troy Jackson or Nirav Shah — or even Ms. Rachel — can consolidate support fast enough to make Collins "concerned" about her reelection.Links for Nathan:X (Twitter): @nathanTbernard / Bluesky: @nathantbernard.bsky.social /In Letter, Platner Volunteer Network Warns Dems: Nominee Must Back Same Agenda to Win Our Full Support (Drop Site, July 2026)Platner Volunteers Want to Move Forward with a New Candidate (Drop Site, July 2026)Voters Weigh In: From Waterville to Ogunquit, Mainers Are Standing By Graham Platner (Drop Site, Oct 2025)Transition Music: "Pale Horse (live in london)" by Truman Sinclair
The writer extraordinaire himself, Tim Sheridan, returns to the show for a lovely discussion. Hear us talk: -Tim's new comic miniseries, "Masters of the Universe: The Wings of Fate" -Having lunch in Chicago -"Blink" and "Don't Blink" Plus, some talk about "The Long Halloween", Lyan Rower, and more! Rate and Review the Show: Apple | Spotify | iHeartradio | Amazon Follow The Batman Book Club on X: @thebatmanbc. Follow The Batman Book Club on Instagram: @thebatmanbc. Follow Tim on Instagram: @ilovetimsheridan. Subscribe to The Batman Book Club YouTube Channel. Support the Show Through Patreon: patreon.com/thebatmanbc. Support the Show with Merchandise from TeePublic. Transition Music: "The Dark Knight Returns", by Christopher Drake. Outro Music: "Overdrive", by Matrika. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
We're back with another installment in our critically acclaimed "Who the Hell?" biographical series, this time sitting down to scrutinize Michael Tracey: a contrarian writer and social media personality who has managed to draw a surprising amount of attention to himself throughout the Trump era.Jared and Mike are joined by guest Bobby Silverman to review the arc of Tracey's career, from his early run-in with police at an Ann Coulter event to his eventual rise in media as a pugnacious hater of political pundits and journalists. This episode explores how Tracey, a self-described "roving journalist," has channeled his resentment for contemporary media into attention-seeking episodes of confrontation and contrarianism that have earned him fans among right-wing audiences.After this episode, the corrupt woke media will never be the same.Transition Music: "Tide Rips" by Bering Sea
Content Warning: This episode includes audio clips that contain derogatory and racist language. Listener discretion is advised.Maybe you've heard of the mustachioed guy in a cowboy hat who hurls racist slurs at strangers, or the one who dresses as the Joker to recite FBI crime statistics at Black people on chat websites. Believe it or not, these are real adult men who not only exist but profit from what we're calling "confrontation porn": a genre built around angering or horrifying people through open displays of bigotry or sadism."Chud the Builder" — the online handle of Dalton Eatherly — was a rising star of the genre until he shot a man. That's where this episode picks up. Eatherly now faces serious legal trouble stemming from his racist stunts, and fellow online bigots have raised more than a quarter of a million dollars for his defense. We also look at another figure in the genre who helped lead that fundraising effort: Paul Miller, aka "GypsyCrusader," known for harassing strangers while performing an array of personas, including one he calls "Racist Mario."It's a tough world out there in 2026, and some of us might to have to “fight for free.”Transition Music: "Split the Difference" by Aqueous
How sick is our democracy right now? (Not in the skateboard-trick way.) Jared and Mike are joined by Ari Berman to find out. He's the national voting rights correspondent at Mother Jones and one of the country's leading reporters covering issues related to elections. This episode reviews how recent Supreme Court decisions weakened the Voting Rights Act, why states like Tennessee have become a blueprint for dismantling majority-Black districts, and the contradiction between years of MAGA claims about “rigged elections” and the GOP's open embrace of aggressive gerrymandering.Faithful Posting Through It listeners know this is a topic that has stressed out the hosts (especially Mike) for a long time. Viktor Orbán may have fallen in Hungary, but his vision of weakening a country's democratic infrastructure to produce authoritarian outcomes is alive and well in the United States.Links for Ari Berman:Minority Rule: The Right-Wing Attack on the Will of the People—and the Fight to Resist It (2024)Give Us the Ballot: The Modern Struggle for Voting Rights in America (2016)Bluesky / X (Twitter)Jared's piece at Open Measures: Pro-Trump Communities Spent Years Claiming Elections Were ‘Rigged.' Now They Support Gerrymandering.Transition Music: “nu cringe part 2” by Battikh
If you're alive in America today, you've seen the ads — on TV, at bus stops, and on your phone. We have a gambling problem in this country, and it's getting worse by the minute. With a rapid, billion-dollar boom in sports betting already underway, we now have to reckon with the next phase of this trend: betting on news events.Journalist and author Danny Funt joins Posting Through It for a conversation about online gambling at a time where the culture around it is tightening its grip on everyday life, mutating into something that goes beyond prototypical American capitalism and imposes consequences that affect us all.Check out Danny's book: Everybody Loses: The Tumultuous Rise of American Sports Gambling (2026)Transition Music: "School" by Great Wealth
In this episode, Eric Carter from The Fire Rises podcast returns to celebrate the 10th anniversary of "Batman v Superman" by diving into the General Mills comics released in 2016. Rate and Review the Show: Apple | Spotify | iHeartradio | Amazon Follow The Batman Book Club on X: @thebatmanbc. Follow The Batman Book Club on Instagram: @thebatmanbc. Follow The Fire Rises on Instagram:@tfrbatpod. Subscribe to The Batman Book Club YouTube Channel. Support the Show Through Patreon: patreon.com/thebatmanbc. Support the Show with Merchandise from TeePublic. Transition Music: "The Dark Knight Returns", by Christopher Drake. Outro Music: "Overdrive", by Matrika. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
This edition of Posting Through It's acclaimed "Who the Hell?" series profiles right-wing podcast host Steven Crowder. Jared and Mike are joined by Byron McKoy, co-host of the podcast Louder Than Crowder, to explore how Crowder emerged as one of the Trump-era's flagship media programs and how his career started to unravel in recent years.Together, they retrace the arc of Crowder's life and career to explain how the Canadian-raised kid with dreams of a career in acting and stand-up comedy went on to create one of the most-successful right-wing podcasts to exist. This episode presents a wealth of in-depth research, contextualized with the host's insights and commentary, to construct one of the most-comprehensive timelines of Crowder's life you'll find online.Links for Byron:Listen to Louder Than Crowder on Apple, Spotify, and everywhere else podcasts are found. You can also join the show's "Shrug Club" on Patreon to get exclusive breakdowns of Steven Crowder's broadcasts.Transition Music: "Snow" by TRIAGESupport the show and listen to weekly premium episodes: https://www.patreon.com/postingthroughit
In this episode, Jay Yaws returns to help us celebrate 60 years of the BATMAN TV series by diving into a story from the BATMAN '66 comic series, "The Garden of Death". Rate and Review the Show: Apple | Spotify | iHeartradio | Amazon Follow The Batman Book Club on X: @thebatmanbc. Follow The Batman Book Club on Instagram: @thebatmanbc. Follow Jay on Instagram: @jayaws. Subscribe to The Batman Book Club YouTube Channel. Support the Show Through Patreon: patreon.com/thebatmanbc. Support the Show with Merchandise from TeePublic. Transition Music: "Batman" by Neal Hefti. Outro Music: "Overdrive", by Matrika. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
For this year's Christmas episode, I welcome back jolly ol' saint Garret Grev to discuss the crossover story full of the holiday spirit, in "Batman/Santa Claus - Silent Knight". Hear us talk: -Norse mythology -This version of Santa -How Batman welcomes other members of the DC Universe Plus, I sprinkle in Christmas questions throughout. Rate and Review the Show: Apple | Spotify | iHeartradio | Amazon Follow The Batman Book Club on X: @thebatmanbc. Follow The Batman Book Club on Instagram: @thebatmanbc. Follow Garret on X: @GarretWATO. Subscribe to The Batman Book Club YouTube Channel. Support the Show Through Patreon: patreon.com/thebatmanbc. Support the Show with Merchandise from TeePublic. Transition Music: "The Season's Upon Us", by Dropkick Murphys. Outro Music: "Overdrive", by Matrika. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Jared and Mike are joined by Asawin Suebsaeng, a senior political correspondent for Zeteo, to discuss Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, the pro-Trump toadies who replaced news reporters at the Pentagon, and the Trump Administration's murder rampage of boaters in the Caribbean who they claim are trafficking narcotics. At the end, the hosts share their favorite music from 2025.Links for Swin:Read his reporting in Zeteo and Rolling StoneFollow him on X (@swin24) and Bluesky (@swin24.bsky.social)Pre-orders for our limited run of "Femdom" parody shirts coming imminently. Keep an eye out on social media and Patreon for the order link!Use the code "STRANGE20" for a discount when you preorder Mike's book at this link: "Strange People on the Hill: How Extremism Tore Apart a Small American Town"Transition Music: "Godlike" by Twen--Support the show and get access to weekly bonus episodes on our Patreon page: https://patreon.com/PostingThroughIt
MAGA has gone global. What started as an American political movement has evolved into an international force, energizing radical-right groups across the world and creating networks that link European extremists directly to sitting members of the U.S. Congress. Heidi Beirich, one of the leading researchers on the radical right and co-founder of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism (GPAHE), joins us to explore how we got here and what the global landscape looks like now.But first, the guys try to make sense of the increasingly bizarre vibes inside MAGA itself. Trump is suddenly praising Democratic socialist Zohran Mamdani, Marjorie Taylor Greene is rebranding using "woke" language, and no one seems to know what's happening anymore.GPAHE Stories We Discussed:Alleged Jakarta Bomber Leaves Behind Digital Trail Worshiping Past Racist AttackersActive Club Chapters Growing GloballyEurope's White Nationalist Identitarian Movement Ramping Up Fundraising EffortsMapping The Far Right: The Movement's Conferences Illuminate Its Growing Transnational NetworksHow the International Far Right is Getting on Board With Trump's Antifa Terrorist DesignationUsed "STRANGE20" for a discount when you preorder Mike's forthcoming book: "Strange People on the Hill: How Extremism Tore Apart a Small American Town"Transition Music: "Wrong Wire" by MYDGE
Online can be a hellish place. In this episode, Jared and Mike dive into the darkest corners of the web with Will Stancil, a civil rights attorney recently turned into a literal cartoon by far-right extremists. After enduring years of online harassment, Stancil became the target of a Hitlerite activist Emily Youcis, whose mocking web animation has found unsettling popularity — even among powerful tech reactionaries like Marc Andreessen.Stancil unpacks what he's been through, reflects on how to stay grounded amid relentless hate, and laughs at himself along the way. Plus: the trio swap thoughts on late-night snacking, favorite music, and disastrous first dates. It's an episode that truly lives up to the Posting Through It name.Preorder Mike's book "Strange People on the Hill," out April 2026. Use the code STRANGE20 for a discount.Transition Music: "" by Kim PetrasPatreon: https://patreon.com/PostingThroughIt
If you didn't know already, we have a Patreon. In some of our very special bonus episodes, Dave is Joined by Emma's son Brody to talk about some truly awful kids movies. Well, we'd like you all to experience the fun we have recording these episodes as a special treat. All we ask in return is that you join us in wishing Brody a very happy birthday (on the day of release!) Happy birthday Brody, May the fourth be with you! In order to restore their dying safe haven, the son of Poseidon and his friends embark on a quest to the Sea of Monsters, to find the mythical Golden Fleece, all the while trying to stop an ancient evil from rising.Join Brody and David as we delve into the world of half-bloods and gods for an underwhelming adaptation of the sequel to Percy Jackson and the Lightning Thief. We recorded this before the release of the recent Disney+ live action series.We rented this move on Amazon Prime in the U.K.Intro and Outro Music by fassounds from Pixabay&Transition Music by Muzaproduction from Pixabay Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Join us on this episode called Almost Cancelled. Toxicity: A Damaging Force as we dive into the tumultuous world of toxicity, exploring its damaging force in various spheres. From online communities to real-life interactions, we dissect its impact and discuss strategies for mitigating its effects. In addition, catch up on the latest in baseball with our season update, and stay informed on the financial and housing markets. Tune in for insightful discussions and engaging topics that matter." Thank you for tuning in to Gio's Passion! Be sure to rate, follow, and subscribe on your preferred podcast platform, including Spotify. Don't miss out on new episode notifications by clicking the bell icon. Connect with us on social media: Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/GiosPassion Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/giospassion/ YouTube Link: https://bit.ly/38u5sFR This episode is proudly sponsored by GIO'S PASSION & giospassion.com. For on-air interviews or inquiries, reach out to us at https://www.giospassion.com/contact or via our social media channels. Feel free to send us a recorded message at https://anchor.fm/giospassion/message. Get ready to groove with our podcast, featuring an electrifying lineup of music credits: Intro Music: "Drop the Roof - Remix - Instrumental Version" by FVMELESS 1-Transition Music: "The Body Instrumental Version" by Davis Absolute 2-Transition Music: "Rising-of-the-sun" by borrtex 3-Transition Music: "Havana Sunset” by MatanGovAri 4-Transition Music: "Coeur-dalene" by pete-james-johnson Outro Music: "Juno" by OTNO With beats that'll keep you hooked from start to finish, these tracks set the perfect vibe for your listening pleasure. Let the music take you on a journey while you tune in to our podcast. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/giospassion/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/giospassion/support
In this thought-provoking podcast, we delve into the complex interplay between loneliness, intimacy, and emotional connection. Join us as we explore the question: Would you engage in intimate acts with someone, knowing you have no feelings for them, just to avoid being alone? Through candid discussions and expert insights, we uncover the psychological and emotional motivations behind such decisions. Whether you're grappling with your own experiences or seeking to understand the intricacies of human relationships, this podcast offers valuable perspectives on navigating the blurred boundaries of intimacy and loneliness in today's world.
Empathy is a very important skill when it comes to life. And its almost a must that every parent should teach this to their children. Lets talk about this : heres the transcript : Host: Welcome back, wonderful listeners, to another episode of "The Podcast By Dr Dad"! I'm your host, Dr. Gaurav Nigam, the funniest pediatrician this side of the stethoscope. Today, we're diving into the deep end of the kiddie pool to discuss something super important: empathy! *Cue imaginary applause*[Cheerful Intro Music Fades Out]Host: Now, empathy isn't just for the Hallmark card aisle or those tear-jerker movies. It's a crucial skill that can make the world a better place, starting right from childhood. So, buckle up and get ready to laugh and learn because we're about to embark on a journey through the land of feelings and understanding.[Transition Music]Host: But first, let's get nerdy for a moment. Empathy isn't just some touchy-feely concept; it's backed by science! Researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Human Cognitive and Brain Sciences in Leipzig, Germany, have been poking around the brain to see what makes us tick. And guess what? Turns out, empathy isn't just in our hearts; it's in our heads too![Cheeky Drum Roll]Host: They've discovered that when we feel empathy, our brains light up like a Christmas tree, especially in areas responsible for understanding other people's emotions. So, basically, empathy is like brain fireworks! Who knew understanding feelings could be so flashy?[Transition Music]Host: Now, you might be wondering, "But Dr. Gaurav Nigam, how do we turn our little ankle biters into empathy superheroes?" Well, fear not, dear listeners, because I've got some top-secret, highly classified tips just for you![Spy Music Plays]Host: Tip number one: Lead by example! Kids are like tiny sponges, soaking up everything around them, including your actions. So, if you want your kiddos to be empathy champs, show them what it looks like! Whether it's comforting a friend or helping a neighbor, let them see your empathy superpowers in action.[Transition Music]Host: Tip number two: Encourage perspective-taking! Now, I'm not talking about putting on a pair of tiny glasses and pretending to be someone else. Although, that would be adorable. I'm talking about helping kids see things from different points of view. Like, "How would you feel if someone did that to you?" It's like giving their empathy muscles a little workout![Transition Music]Host: And last but not least, tip number three: Practice gratitude! Research from the Greater Good Science Center at the University of California, Berkeley, shows that gratitude and empathy go together like peanut butter and jelly. By helping kids appreciate the little things in life, they're more likely to empathize with others' experiences. So, bust out those thank you notes and get grateful![Transition Music]
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Introducing our final guest of the season we have the incredible Martin Schippers. From first taking lessons with his grandfather to now becoming one of the most prevalent and respected musicians of today. Martin goes in depth about his musical upbringing, approach to work/life balance, and elaborates on new upcoming projects. Martin is currently the current tenor/ bass trombonist of the Royal Concertgebouworkest and professor at Lucerne University in Switzerland, and has appeared at numerous events and festivals such as the International Trombone Festival, Lätzsch Trombone Festival, and Peru Low Brass Festival just to name a few. -- Transition Music #1: Colores, Steven Verhelst, feat. Martin Schippers and the Schwob Trombone Ensemble Transition Music #2: Devil's Waltz, Steven Verhelst, feat. Martin Schippers and Tomer Maschkowski Instagram: @8thposition @dbaldwin903 @_mehurst_
For our second to last episode this season, we have the most subbed brass musician on YouTube, Christopher Bill. Originally building his brand on YouTube in the 2010s and expanding to several other social medias, Chris started his channel with all-trombone arrangements of popular songs and has gained serious popularity since then. Now known internationally for his arrangements, compositions, and his album Half Man, Half Machine, Christopher Bill has one of the most unique careers of nearly any musician out there, giving us a great unique interview full of experiences we have yet to hear. -- Transition Music #1: Power Down, Christopher Bill Instagram: @8thposition @dbaldwin903 @_mehurst_
Exciting episode today, as we have an international guest on the podcast today, interviewing Ilan Morgenstern! Ilan has experienced such a spectacular orchestral and solo playing career. He has subbed with numerous top orchestras across the United States and even overseas in Israel such as Israel Philharmonic, Philadelphia Orchestra, Atlanta Symphony, Detroit Symphony, and many more. He has won many awards from internationally renowned competitions including the Jeju International Brass and Percussion Competition, Zellmer-Minnesota Orchestra Competition, and the National Repertory Orchestra's Concerto Competition. His official positions in the past include San Antonio Symphony, Houston Grand Opera Orchestra, Jacksonville Symphony, and Kansas City Symphony. Originally from Rehovot, Israel, Ilan has unique stories about his time growing up in Israel, how he eventually moved to the United States for his bachelor's and master's degrees, and continue through his progression as one of the top bass trombonists in North America up until his present day position in the Vancouver Symphony. -- Transition Music #1: Ballade for Bass Trombone Strings and Harp, Eric Ewazen, featuring Ilan Morgenstern, Rachel Ferris and the San Antonio Symphony Instagram: @8thposition @dbaldwin903 @_mehurst_
Continuing on with the second half of season 4, our guest today is Dr. Joshua Bynum, Professor of Trombone at the University of Georgia (Athens). We have a new record breaker set with this one as this is now the longest episode we have done so far, and it is absolutely full of truly incredible information and wisdom, for all ages, especially those who are getting into the collegiate teaching world. Dr. Bynum has had phenomenal teachings and pedagogy throughout his college years studying at Jacksonville State University, Temple University, and the University of Iowa. He is recognized as a great trombone professor and trombone player, giving clinics and performances at the Eastern Trombone Workshop, International Trombone Festival, Georgia Music Educators Association Conference, JanFest, and various workshops across the nation. Dr. Bynum's regular duties outside of Professor of Trombone include the Georgia Brass Quintet, the MOD[ular] Contemporary Chamber Ensemble and the Resonant Projection trombone quartet. In this episode we discuss his early life, his thoughts on college football, how he got into the teaching world, and how he has developed a fantastic studio over the years at the University of Georgia. -- Transition Music #1: Georgia On My Mind, Arr. Sammy Nestico, featuring the UGA Trombone Choir Transition Music #2: Reflection & Celebration, David Wilborn, featuring the UGA Trombone Choir Instagram: @8thposition @dbaldwin903 @_mehurst_
It's time for us to begin the second half of season 4 and today for our guest, we have the amazing Myles Blakemore! Myles serves as trombonist in the US Navy Band and is also the Professor of Trombone at Howard University. Prior to those positions he has held a position with New World Symphony, was the inaugural Minnesota Orchestra fellow, and participated in National Repertory Orchestra, Aspen Music Festival and Brevard Music Center. Performing on international stages such as Baltimore Symphony, Dallas Symphony, Malaysian Philharmonic, International Trombone Festival, American Trombone Workshop and many more, he has an incredibly rich story for us today, and its nowhere near the end! We naturally talk about his beginnings as a trombonist, exploring his earliest starts to being a fellow at New World Symphony, and his current life in the US Navy Band. We even discuss his process of making his album that is out now and is entitled "Bach-Ish," we highly recommend checking out after this interview to show your love for this terrific musician! -- Transition Music #1: The Gift of Little G for Trombone and Piano, featuring Myles Blakemore Transition Music #2: Hommage a Bach pour Trombone et Piano, featuring Myles Blakemore Instagram: @8thposition @dbaldwin903 @_mehurst_
Dive into an honest conversation about relationships where everything fits perfectly—except for one crucial aspect: intimacy. Join us in this episode as we candidly explore the reality of such situations, offering insights into ways to improve them and the potential paths to instigate significant changes. In addition to this crucial topic, we delve into our renowned Social Media Poll alongside discussions on Sports, Finance, and Housing. Buckle up and enjoy the ride with us! Thank you for tuning in to Gio's Passion! Ensure you never miss an episode—rate, follow, and subscribe on all major podcast platforms, including Spotify. Don't overlook the bell icon for instant notifications about our latest releases. Join Gio's Passion Posse and the GPP at GIOSPASSION.COM as we strive to hit 2000 subscribers and followers; we're currently at 1061. Let's amplify Gio's Passion and Gio's Passion Posse together! Connect with us on social media: Twitter: https://twitter.com/giospassion Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/GiosPassion Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/giospassion/ YouTube Link: https://bit.ly/38u5sFR This episode is proudly sponsored by GIO'S PASSION & giospassion.com. Join Robinhood using my link https://join.robinhood.com/jackk-f28697e2 for both of us to receive free stocks! Interested in being interviewed? Drop a message regarding your topic, business, or idea at https://anchor.fm/giospassion/message. Music Credits: Intro Music: "Drop the Roof - Remix - Instrumental Version" by FVMELESS Transition Music: "The Body Instrumental Version" by Davis Absolute Transition Music: "FlutesWillChill" by Kicktracks Transition Music: "Rising-of-the-sun" by borrtex Transition Music: "HavanaSunset" by MatanGovAri Transition Music: "Coeur-dalene" by pete-james-johnson Outro Music: "Juno" by OTNO --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/giospassion/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/giospassion/support
It's time for our mid-season finale and today for our guest, we have one of the greatest bass trombonists out there, Mr. George Curran! Mr. Curran became the bass trombonist of the New York Philharmonic in 2013 and prior to that he was a member of Atlanta Symphony, and a fellow with the New World Symphony. Due to his terrific personality and incredible skills on the trombone, he has performed with numerous orchestras such as the Metropolitan Opera Orchestra, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Detroit, Hong Kong Philharmonic, and many more. In addition to his impressive orchestral career, Mr. Curran is a renowned soloist performing solos in two International Trombone Festivals, being featured for the United States Air Force Band, and even the Jeju International Wind Ensemble Festival in South Korea. With such a great resume and history in the trombone world, we get right down to how he got into music by diving into the story of how he quit engineering to pursue music, how he transitioned from euphonium to bass trombone, how his orchestral career has progressed through the years and of course, we hit him with some rapid fire questions resulting in one of the most controversial responses yet! Fun Fact: When I (Darien) was first trying to start this Podcast with Lawson, I was studying with Mr. Curran at the time and asked him if this podcast was a good idea and how we should go about it. He supported the idea fully and told me how to reach out to all these wonderful musicians for these interviews! Without Mr. Curran's support and advice, this Podcast wouldn't have been possible! -- Transition Music #1: Barnacle Bill, Steven Frank, United States Air Force Band featuring George Curran Transition Music #2: Rolling Thunder March, Henry Fillmore, Schwob Wind Ensemble featuring George Curran Instagram: @8thposition @dbaldwin903 @_mehurst_
For our third episode this season, we have a near record breaker with this interview being our second longest interview yet! But it is absolutely nothing short of great stories, great laughs, and incredible inspiration from one of the biggest trombonists in the music industry, Alex Iles. Mr. Iles has enjoyed a varied and successful career in numerous musical settings performing in the musically diverse area of the Southern California freelance performing and recording community. As a very in-demand performer, recording artist and educator he has performed/recorded with Zubin Mehta, Hans Zimmer, Michael Giacchino, The Tonight Show, Danny Elfman, John Williams, Paul McCartney, Fallout Boy, Prince, and many jazz artists/bands such as Woody Herman, Maynard Ferguson, Bob Florence's Limited Edition and even the Gordon Goodwin Big Phat Band. With such an incredible musical career in the jazz world, orchestral world, and recording world, Mr. Iles talks about his present projects, his upbringing in music and the interesting approach of how he learned to improve as a musician, and we of course hit him with some rapid fire questions to find out who the real Alex Iles is! By the way, look up his page, I guarantee if you have watched any movies in the past 20 years, he's recorded for it! -- Transition Music #1: Remembering, Dave Slonaker, Alex Iles Transition Music #2: Count Bubba, Gordon Goodwind's Big Phat Band Instagram: @8thposition @dbaldwin903 @_mehurst_
Send me a recorded message. https://anchor.fm/giospassion/message Join Gio's Passion Posse and the GPP at GIOSPASSION.COM Today's GPP (Gio's Passion Posse) Topics – 1- Intro 2- Crypto Crash. 3- Sports News. 4- Finance. 5- The Housing Market. 6- Outtro Thank you so much for listening to Gio's Passion. Make sure to rate and follow us everywhere you listen to podcasts, including Spotify. And don't forget to to click the bell icon, for New episode notifications. I'm working on getting 2000 Subscribers and followers. I currently have 974. Let's build Gio's Passion and the Gio's Passion Posse! Check out my Social Media Twitter- https://twitter.com/giospassion Facebook Page- https://www.facebook.com/GiosPassion Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/giospassion/ You Tube Link- https://bit.ly/38u5sFR Sponsored by GIO'S PASSION & giospassion.com My Robinhood Link-If you join PLEASE us my Link we both get free stocks!!! https://join.robinhood.com/jackk-f28697e2 **If you'd like to be interviewed, message me on the topic, business or idea you have** Send me a recorded message. https://anchor.fm/giospassion/message Music Credits 1-Intro Music- Drop the Roof - Remix - Instrumental Version-FVMELESS 2-Transition Music-Stay-Strong by I am daylight 3-Transition Music- rising-of-the-sun by borrtex 4- Havana Sunset by Matan Gov Ari 5-coeur-dalene by pete-james-johnson 6-Outro Music- Juno by OTNO ENJOY THE RIDE!!! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/giospassion/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/giospassion/support
Send me a recorded message. https://anchor.fm/giospassion/message Join Gio's Passion Posse and the GPP at GIOSPASSION.COM Today's GPP (Gio's Passion Posse) Topics – 1- Intro 2- Summer Lovin. 3- Sports News. 4- Finance. 5- The Housing Market. 6- Outtro Thank you so much for listening to Gio's Passion. Make sure to rate and follow us everywhere you listen to podcasts, including Spotify. And don't forget to to click the bell icon, for New episode notifications. I'm working on getting 2000 Subscribers and followers. I currently have 961. Let's build Gio's Passion and the Gio's Passion Posse! Check out my Social Media Twitter- https://twitter.com/giospassion Facebook Page- https://www.facebook.com/GiosPassion Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/giospassion/ You Tube Link- https://bit.ly/38u5sFR Sponsored by GIO'S PASSION & giospassion.com My Robinhood Link- If you join PLEASE us my Link we both get free stocks!!! https://join.robinhood.com/jackk-f28697e2 **If you'd like to be interviewed, message me on the topic, business or idea you have** Send me a recorded message. https://anchor.fm/giospassion/message Music Credits 1-Intro Music- Drop the Roof - Remix - Instrumental Version-FVMELESS 2-Transition Music-Stay-Strong by I am daylight 3-Transition Music- rising-of-the-sun by borrtex 4- Havana Sunset by Matan Gov Ari 5-coeur-dalene by pete-james-johnson 6-Outro Music- Juno by OTNO ENJOY THE RIDE!!! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/giospassion/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/giospassion/support
Today's GPP (Gio's Passion Posse) Topics – 1- Intro 2- Attention Whore. 3- Sports News. 4- Finance. 5- The Housing Market. 6- Outtro Thank you so much for listening to Gio's Passion. Make sure to rate and follow us everywhere you listen to podcasts, including Spotify. And don't forget to to click the bell icon, for New episode notifications. Join Gio's Passion Posse and the GPP at GIOSPASSION.COM I'm working on getting 2000 Subscribers and followers. I currently have 929. Let's build Gio's Passion and the Gio's Passion Posse! Check out my Social Media Twitter- https://twitter.com/giospassion Facebook Page- https://www.facebook.com/GiosPassion Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/giospassion/ You Tube Link- https://bit.ly/38u5sFR Sponsored by GIO'S PASSION & giospassion.com My Robinhood Link- If you join PLEASE us my Link we both get free stocks!!! https://join.robinhood.com/jackk-f28697e2 **If you'd like to be interviewed, message me on the topic, business or idea you have** Send me a recorded message. https://anchor.fm/giospassion/message Music Credits 1-Intro Music- Drop the Roof - Remix - Instrumental Version-FVMELESS 2-Transition Music- Stay-Strong by I am daylight 3-Transition Music- rising-of-the-sun by borrtex 4- Havana Sunset by Matan Gov Ari 5-coeur-dalene by pete-james-johnson 6-Outro Music- Juno by OTNO ENJOY THE RIDE!!! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/giospassion/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/giospassion/support
Today's GPP (Gio's Passion Posse) Topics – 1- Intro 2- Fake Friends & People. 3- Social Media Poll. 4- Sports News. 5- Finance. 6- The Housing Market. 7- Outtro Thank you so much for listening to Gio's Passion. Make sure to rate and follow us everywhere you listen to podcasts, including Spotify. And don't forget to to click the bell icon, for New episode notifications. Join Gio's Passion Posse and the GPP at GIOSPASSION.COM I'm working on getting 2000 Subscribers and followers. I currently have 845. Let's build Gio's Passion and the Gio's Passion Posse! Gio's Passion 2023 Motivational Video- https://youtu.be/ZSBgorP-9ek Steve Harvey Motivational Video- https://youtu.be/WYR-gxVcg6s Check out my Social Media Twitter- https://twitter.com/giospassion Facebook Page- https://www.facebook.com/GiosPassion Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/giospassion/ You Tube Link- https://bit.ly/38u5sFR Sponsored by GIO'S PASSION & giospassion.com My Robinhood Link- If you join PLEASE us my Link we both get free stocks!!! https://join.robinhood.com/jackk-f28697e2 **If you'd like to be interviewed, message me on the topic, business or idea you have** Send me a recorded message. https://anchor.fm/giospassion/message Music Credits 1-Intro Music- Drop the Roof - Remix - Instrumental Version-FVMELESS 2-Transition Music- Stay-Strong by I am daylight 3- Transition Music-2-(Side 2- FlutesWillChill by Kicktracks) 4-Transition Music- rising-of-the-sun by borrtex 5- Havana Sunset by Matan Gov Ari 6-coeur-dalene by pete-james-johnson 7-Outro Music- Juno by OTNO ENJOY THE RIDE!!! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/giospassion/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/giospassion/support
Callie is back from surgery and fought through the pain to be with us today! That's how much she loves y'all!We talk to Matt Hildreth, Executive Director of Rural Organizing (RuralOrganizing.org) to discuss the progressive road map to rebuild a rural America that is empowered, thriving, and equitable. RuralOrganizing.org is committed to pursuing creativity, equity, and justice at all organizational levels and throughout all programs. Plus, we talk about Kirk Cameron's library hissy fit in Tennessee that led to a library director getting canned, teeing us up for our list of 5 wildly unhinged things the Left Behind star has done/saidAND! We give an impassioned rant about the absurd notion presented by Ben Shapiro that school lunches don't have any meaningful impact on solving child hunger (spoiler: he is woefully incorrect). Rural Organizing linkshttps://ruralorganizing.org/Weekly Skews (mentioned in the interview) https://weeklyskews.com/HELP SUPPORT APPODLACHIA!Join our Patreon, for as little as $1/month, and access live events, weekly exclusives, bonus series, and more http://www.patreon.com/appodlachia-----------------------------------------------Timestamps00:01 - Addressing the shooting in Nashville05:00 - Checking in with Callie08:00 - List Background: Kirk Cameron a "growing pain" in the liturgical ass15:43 - Weekly List: 5 Unhinged Things Kirk Cameron has said/done34:31 - Interview with Matt Hildreth01:10:40 - Under-the-radar: Ben Shapiro's factless take on school lunch-----------------------------------------------Transition Music: "Leave it to Me" by Corduroy Brownhttps://corduroy-brown.com/-----------------------------------------------Check out our fantastic sponsors!CBD and THC gummies & more: (use code "BANJO" for 25% off) http://www.cornbreadhemp.com/Support the show
Today's GPP (Gio's Passion Posse) Topics – 1- Intro 2- Rude lady ruins a secret. 3- Sports News. 4- Finance. 5- The Housing Market. 6- Outtro Thank you so much for listening to Gio's Passion. Make sure to rate and follow us everywhere you listen to podcasts, including Spotify. And don't forget to to click the bell icon, for New episode notifications. Join Gio's Passion Posse and the GPP at GIOSPASSION.COM I'm working on getting 2000 Subscribers and followers. I currently have 835. Let's build Gio's Passion and the Gio's Passion Posse! Check out my Social Media Twitter- https://twitter.com/giospassion Facebook Page- https://www.facebook.com/GiosPassion Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/giospassion/ You Tube Link- https://bit.ly/38u5sFR Sponsored by GIO'S PASSION & GIOSPASSION.COM My Robinhood Link- If you join PLEASE us my Link we both get free stocks!!! https://join.robinhood.com/jackk-f28697e2 **If you'd like to be interviewed, message me on the topic, business or idea you have** Send me a recorded message. https://anchor.fm/giospassion/message Music Credits 1-Intro Music- Drop the Roof - Remix - Instrumental Version-FVMELESS 2-Transition Music-Stay-Strong by iamdaylight 3-Transition Music- rising-of-the-sun by borrtex 4- Havana Sunset by MatanGovAri 5-coeur-dalene by pete-james-johnson 6-Outro Music- Juno by OTNO ENJOY THE RIDE!!! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/giospassion/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/giospassion/support
Tennessee's legislature banned drag performances, and many other states may follow suit. We discuss this ridiculous and harmful law by giving you some background, then provide several examples of things that could also be banned in Tennessee because of this stupid law.Plus, we have an interview with the absolutely phenomenal Appalachian TikTok papaw phenom, Andi Marie Tillman!Andi's LinksIG: https://www.instagram.com/andimariere/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@andimariereYoutube: youtube.com /@andimarie7554 Spotify: https://tinyurl.com/mrsxeusvHELP SUPPORT APPODLACHIA!Join our Patreon, for as little as $1/month, and access live events, weekly exclusives, bonus series, and more http://www.patreon.com/appodlachia-----------------------------------------------Timestamps00:40 - Man Scout pitty popcorn purchasing05:45 - List Background: TN's new anti-drag law15:00 - Weekly List: Things that could be banned now in TN32:25 - Announcements: Patreon Limericks!34:44 - Interview with Andi Marie Tillman01:06:00 - Under-the-radar: Norfolk Southern Disaster update -----------------------------------------------Transition Music: "Leave it to Me" by Corduroy Brownhttps://corduroy-brown.com/-----------------------------------------------Check out our fantastic sponsors!CBD and THC gummies & more: (use code "BANJO" for 25% off) http://www.cornbreadhemp.com/Support the show
Callie and Chuck talk to Dr. Cameron D. Lippard, chair of Appalachian State University's Sociology department and an expert on the history of moonshining! PLUS! Ranting on D.C. pundits claiming rural bonafides, a list of Appalachian outlaws, and an update on the Norfolk Southern disaster in East Palestine, OH.HELP SUPPORT APPODLACHIA!Join our Patreon, for as little as $1/month, and access live events, weekly exclusives, bonus series, and more http://www.patreon.com/appodlachia-----------------------------------------------Timestamps00:21 - Intro - Congrats to Anderson Clayton05:30 - Intro II - D.C. pundits who want to stake rural claims15:16 - Weekly List: Appalachian Outlaws33:54 - Announcements (Patreon Limericks!)35:47 - Interview with Dr. Cameron Lippard on Moonshine01:24:59: Under-the-Radar: Update on East Palestine Chemical spillMore about Dr. Lippard: https://soc.appstate.edu/faculty-staff/cameron-lippard-phdTrain derailment link: https://www.levernews.com/rail-companies-blocked-safety-rules-before-ohio-derailment/-----------------------------------------------Transition Music: "Leave it to Me" by Corduroy Brownhttps://corduroy-brown.com/-----------------------------------------------Check out our fantastic sponsors!CBD and THC gummies & more: (use code "BANJO" for 25% off) http://www.cornbreadhemp.com/Support the show
Today's GPP (Gio's Passion Posse) Topics – 1-Intro 2- Cancelled for Cuffing Feelings 3- Red Flags and Warning Signs 4- Mental Health Checkup 5- Outtro Thank you so much for listening to Gio's Passion. Make sure to rate and follow us everywhere you listen to podcasts, including Spotify. And don't forget to to click the bell icon, for New episode notifications. Join Gio's Passion Posse and the GPP at GIOSPASSION.COM I'm working on getting 2000 Subscribers and followers. I currently have 796. Let's build Gio's Passion and the Gio's Passion Posse! Social Media Twitter- https://twitter.com/giospassion Facebook Page- https://www.facebook.com/GiosPassion Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/giospassion/ You Tube Link- https://bit.ly/38u5sFR Sponsored by GIO'S PASSION & giospassion.com My Robinhood Link-If you join PLEASE us my Link we both get free stocks!!! https://join.robinhood.com/jackk-f28697e2 **If you'd like to be interviewed, message me on the topic, business or idea you have** Send me a recorded message. Music Credits 1-Intro Music- Drop the Roof - Remix - Instrumental Version by FVMELESS 2-Transition Music- The Body- Instrumental Version by DavisAbsolute 3- Transition Music- Strong by I am daylight 4- Transition Music- coeur-dalene by pete-james-johnson 5-Outro Music- Juno by OTNO ENJOY THE RIDE!!! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/giospassion/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/giospassion/support
Callie and Chuck talk to Randy Kraft and Dr. Bill Collins with Volunteers of America's Healthy Mouth, Healthy You Campaign to discuss oral health, dew mouth, and more. Learn more: https://healthymouthhealthyyouky.org/Join Appalachian Bookshelf! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfdtzaxJbgaU-VqUktHWF9YdzbBFf-yb-0_t2uLxB_Bb7k7bA/viewform?usp=sf_linkHELP SUPPORT APPODLACHIA!Join our Patreon, for as little as $1/month, and access live events, weekly exclusives, bonus series, and more http://www.patreon.com/appodlachia-----------------------------------------------Timestamps00:36- Intro -Potato Candy and New Baby06:36- Weekly List: Healthcare deserts in Appalachia27:46 - Announcements - Patreon Limericks!30:45 - Interview about Dew Mouth and Dental Health01:05:25 - Under the Radar: Legislature madness-----------------------------------------------Transition Music: "Leave it to Me" by Corduroy Brownhttps://corduroy-brown.com/-----------------------------------------------Check out our fantastic sponsors!CBD and THC gummies & more: (use code "BANJO" for 25% off) http://www.cornbreadhemp.com/Our website is great, and it's because Starry Eyes Media built it. Yours can be too! https://www.starryeyes.media/Support the show
Julia was planning for a peaceful home birth with her third baby, but plans changed when her labor began at 34 weeks gestation. Even though she gave birth in an environment she didn't want, she did an amazing job advocating for herself and her baby during his subsequent NICU stay, and medical complications. She truly believes that the circumstances around his birth were exactly as they should be. I am always amazed at the miracles that happen when we honor our maternal intuition, and listen to guidance from our babies. This story is perfectly illustrative of that truth! If you love the podcast, please consider supporting the show! www.patreon.com/healingbirth I love to hear from you! Send me a note at www.healingbirth.net Transition Music by: @jaysomeday
On this special bonus episode, we talk all things Kentucky Politics with Robert Kahne of My Old Kentucky Podcast https://myoldkentuckypodcast.podbean.com/We also feature a couple of under-the-radar Kentucky elections in the region and beyond that you should know about including Conor Halbleib (U.S. House candidate for KY 5th District) and Rep. Cherlynn Stevenson!Conor Halbleib: https://conor4kentucky.com/Rep. Cherlynn Stevenson: https://www.cherlynnstevenson.com/-----------------------------------------------Transition Music: "Leave it to Me" by Corduroy Brownhttps://corduroy-brown.com/Transition Music: Clover Lynn https://linktr.ee/hillbillygothicc-----------------------------------------------HELP SUPPORT APPODLACHIA!Join our Patreon, for as little as $1/month, and access live events, weekly exclusives, bonus series, and more http://www.patreon.com/appodlachia-----------------------------------------------Timestamps01:25 - Interview with Robert Kahne51:33- Interview with Conor Halbleib (U.S. House KY 5th District)01:16:40 - Interview with Rep. Cherlynn Stevenson (KY House 88th District)-----------------------------------------------Check out our fantastic sponsors!CBD and THC gummies & more: (use code "BANJO" for 25% off) http://www.cornbreadhemp.com/Our website is great, and it's because Starry Eyes Media built it. Yours can be too! https://www.starryeyes.media/None of the views expressed on this show represent the views of either Chuck or Callie's employersZBiotics Pre-Alcohol ProbioticBreaks down the byproduct of alcohol responsible for rough mornings after drinking.BrandSupport the show
On this special bonus episode, we talk all things Kentucky Politics with Robert Kahne of My Old Kentucky Podcast https://myoldkentuckypodcast.podbean.com/We also feature a couple of under-the-radar Kentucky elections in the region and beyond that you should know about including Conor Halbleib (U.S. House candidate for KY 5th District) and Rep. Cherlynn Stevenson!Conor Halbleib: https://conor4kentucky.com/Rep. Cherlynn Stevenson: https://www.cherlynnstevenson.com/-----------------------------------------------Transition Music: "Leave it to Me" by Corduroy Brownhttps://corduroy-brown.com/Transition Music: Clover Lynn https://linktr.ee/hillbillygothicc-----------------------------------------------HELP SUPPORT APPODLACHIA!Join our Patreon, for as little as $1/month, and access live events, weekly exclusives, bonus series, and more http://www.patreon.com/appodlachia-----------------------------------------------Timestamps01:25 - Interview with Robert Kahne51:33- Interview with Conor Halbleib (U.S. House KY 5th District)01:16:40 - Interview with Rep. Cherlynn Stevenson (KY House 88th District)-----------------------------------------------Check out our fantastic sponsors!CBD and THC gummies & more: (use code "BANJO" for 25% off) http://www.cornbreadhemp.com/Our website is great, and it's because Starry Eyes Media built it. Yours can be too! https://www.starryeyes.media/None of the views expressed on this show represent the views of either Chuck or Callie's employersThe Enthusiasm ProjectDeep dives exploring the world of what it means to be an independent creator.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show
What the hell is up? Welcome to Season Three: ROOTED. In today's episode, I introduce this idea of ROOTED and share how I'm staying rooted, while not having any geographic roots at all. Stay Rooted with me? Featured poem, Love after Love by Derek Walcott: https://allpoetry.com/love-after-love Follow my podgram: @whatthehellisuppod Featured Music: https://spyglass.bandcamp.com/ @spyglass.music Pod Logo: @caltheipadkid Intro & Transition Music: @afterspacemusic
Callie and Chuck talk to Rusty Williams, a cannabis advocate and candidate for the West Virginia House of Delegates 59th District (Charleston, Nitro area). Learn more about Rusty's campaign: https://www.rustywilliamswv.com/PLUS! we run through the racist history of "Reefer Madness" and its Chief Racism Officer Henry J. Anslinger,AND we talk about why TN lawmakers are concerned about litter boxes and furriesCHECK OUT OUR NEW MERCH! https://www.teepublic.com/stores/appodlachiaVanishing Postcards: https://www.vanishingpostcards.com/Help support Kendra and Read Appalachiahttps://www.readappalachia.com/support-us-----------------------------------------------HELP SUPPORT APPODLACHIA!Join our Patreon, for as little as $1/month, and access live events, weekly exclusives, bonus series, and more http://www.patreon.com/appodlachia-----------------------------------------------Timestamps00:45 - Big Ideas Fest Recap03:51- Tn republicans think kids want litter boxes in classrooms11:53 - The #1 worst person on Weed from Appalachia22:40 - Announcements (Patreon Limericks!)25:49 - Interview with Rusty Williams01:15:00 - Reading our new reviews-----------------------------------------------Transition Music: "Leave it to Me" by Corduroy Brownhttps://corduroy-brown.com/-----------------------------------------------Check out our fantastic sponsors!CBD and THC gummies & more: (use code "APPODLACHIA" for 25% off) http://www.cornbreadhemp.com/Our website is great, and it's because Starry Eyes Media built it. Yours can be too! https://www.starryeyes.media/None of the views expressed on this show represent the views of either Chuck or Callie's employersBuzzsprout — Easiest Way to Start a PodcastStart podcasting today. It's the easiest way to start, grow, and monetize your podcast.BrandSupport the show
Callie talks to Whitney - aka the Appalachian Forager - about all things foraging. And Chuck and Callie discuss the Top 4 billionaires/millionaires behaving badly in Appalachia. PLUS, we hear from Three Sheets to the Wind and the Local HoneysCHECK OUT OUR NEW MERCH! https://www.teepublic.com/stores/appodlachia-----------------------------------------------HELP SUPPORT APPODLACHIA!Join our Patreon, for as little as $1/month, and access live events, weekly exclusives, bonus series, and more http://www.patreon.com/appodlachia-----------------------------------------------Timestamps03:38 - Our plans to cover local under-the-radar elections05:00- 4 billionaires/millionaires behaving badly in Appalachia 31:35 - Announcements (Patreon Limericks!)33:40 - Interview with the Appalachian Forager01:05:16 - Three Sheets to the Wind and the Local Honeys on EKY flood relief and supporting local artists 01:36:00 - Reading our new reviews Whitney's Links: Website: https://appalachianforager.com/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@appalachian_foragerInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/appalachian_foragerLocal Honeys/Three Sheets LinksSupport Flood Relief: https://secure.everyaction.com/OML6CQi5H06RMoKDml1bjQ2Live at Cathedral Domain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKNZ6IS_JKwThree Sheets to the Wind: https://bit.ly/3RUlwEAThe Local Honeys: http://www.thelocalhoneys.com/-----------------------------------------------Transition Music: "Leave it to Me" by Corduroy Brownhttps://corduroy-brown.com/-----------------------------------------------Check out our fantastic sponsors!CBD and THC gummies & more: (use code "APPODLACHIA" for 25% off) http://www.cornbreadhemp.com/Our website is great, and it's because Starry Eyes Media built it. Yours can be too! https://www.starryeyes.media/-----------------------------------------------Follow us!-Instagram: http://instagram.com/appodlachia-Twitter: http://twitter.com/appodlachia-Facebook: http://facebook.com/appodlachia-TikTok: http://tiktok.com/appodlachia-Discord: https://discord.gg/czgUeWzvhT-----------------------------------------------None of the views expressed on this show represent the views of either Chuck or Callie's employersThe Book PileWant to sound smart? Two comics discuss a book every Monday so you can pretend you read.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show
Callie talks to Rabbi Joe Blair of Temple Israel in Charleston, WV about the Appalachian experience in jewish placemaking and building broader religious communities. Meanwhile, Callie and Chuck drop their Top 8 delightfully weird Appalachian destinations-----------------------------------------------HELP SUPPORT APPODLACHIA!Join our Patreon, for as little as $1/month, and access live events, weekly exclusives, bonus series, and more http://www.patreon.com/appodlachia-----------------------------------------------Timestamps01:25 - Minor League Scandal06:13 - Student Loan news16:30 - 8 delightfully weird Appalachian destinations52:00 - Announcements (Patreon Limericks!)54:00 - Interview with Rabbi Joe-----------------------------------------------Check out our fantastic sponsors!CBD and THC gummies & more: (use code "APPODLACHIA" for 25% off) http://www.cornbreadhemp.com/Our website is great, and it's because Starry Eyes Media built it. Yours can be too! https://www.starryeyes.media/-----------------------------------------------Transition Music: "Leave it to Me" by Corduroy Brownhttps://corduroy-brown.com/-----------------------------------------------Follow us!-Instagram: http://instagram.com/appodlachia-Twitter: http://twitter.com/appodlachia-Facebook: http://facebook.com/appodlachia-TikTok: http://tiktok.com/appodlachia-Discord: https://discord.gg/czgUeWzvhT-----------------------------------------------None of the views expressed on this show represent the views of either Chuck or Callie's employersThe Jordan Harbinger ShowApple Best of 2018-Learn the stories, secrets & skills of the world's most fascinating pplListen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show
Callie and Chuck talk to Ohio Federation of Teachers president Melissa Cropper about the harmful laws going into effect that target teachers in Ohio and across the country. ALSO, Callie and Chuck give the top 7 cringiest and quackiest things Dr. Oz has said or done, Chuck wages war against terrible minor league baseball names, and the two discuss JD Vance's sham non-profit and its connections to big pharma. -----------------------------------------------HELP SUPPORT APPODLACHIA!Join our Patreon, for as little as $1/month, and access live events, weekly exclusives, bonus series, and more http://www.patreon.com/appodlachia-----------------------------------------------Timestamps01:39 - We need a cryptid baseball team07:29 - Top 7 Cringiest/Quackiest things Dr. Oz has said32:50 - Announcements (Patreon Limericks!)36:56 - Interview with Ohio AFT President Melissa Cropper01:01:35 - Under-the-Radar in Appalachia: JD Vance's sham non-profit & Purdue Pharma-----------------------------------------------Check out our fantastic sponsors!CBD and THC gummies & more: (use code "APPODLACHIA" for 25% off) http://www.cornbreadhemp.com/Our website is great, and it's because Starry Eyes Media built it. Yours can be too! https://www.starryeyes.media/-----------------------------------------------Transition Music: "Leave it to Me" by Corduroy Brownhttps://corduroy-brown.com/-----------------------------------------------Follow us!-Instagram: http://instagram.com/appodlachia-Twitter: http://twitter.com/appodlachia-Facebook: http://facebook.com/appodlachia-TikTok: http://tiktok.com/appodlachia-Discord: https://discord.gg/czgUeWzvhT-----------------------------------------------None of the views expressed on this show represent the views of either Chuck or Callie's employersWomen in Tech PodcastInspiring women in tech share their stories on how they got to where they are today.Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify The Quarterback DadCastI'm Casey Jacox….the host of the Quarterback Dadcast. I want to take a minute to tell...Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show
[PLEASE ignore the mic jostling at the beginning of the episode, and apologies for that!]Callie and Chuck talk to award-winning novelist and Appalachian literary legend, Silas House, this week.ALSO, Callie and Chuck share their top 5 Appalachian dinner guests and talk about the senators who voted against capping the price of insulin -----------------------------------------------PRE-ORDER SILAS HOUSE'S NEW BOOK LARK ASCENDINGhttps://bit.ly/3c33rFm-----------------------------------------------EKY FLOODING RESOURCES:GoFundMe for Isom IGA: https://gofund.me/a6ba2916EKY Mutual Aid Fund: https://bit.ly/3boV4U7Appalshop Latest News & Resources: https://bit.ly/3ORc9n-----------------------------------------------HELP SUPPORT APPODLACHIA!Join our Patreon, for as little as $1/month, and access live events, weekly exclusives, bonus series, and more http://www.patreon.com/appodlachia-----------------------------------------------Timestamps00:59 - Top 5 Appalachian Dinner Guests21:48 - Announcements (Patreon Limericks!)23:27 - Interview with Silas House54:27 - Under-the-Radar in Appalachia: Insulin Cap villains-----------------------------------------------Check out our wonderful sponsors!CBD and THC gummies & more: (use code "APPODLACHIA" for 25% off) http://www.cornbreadhemp.com/Our website is great, and it's because Starry Eyes Media built it. Yours can be too! https://www.starryeyes.media/Transition Music: "Leave it to Me" by Corduroy Brownhttps://corduroy-brown.com/-----------------------------------------------Follow us!-Instagram: http://instagram.com/appodlachia-Twitter: http://twitter.com/appodlachia-Facebook: http://facebook.com/appodlachia-TikTok: http://tiktok.com/appodlachia-Discord: https://discord.gg/czgUeWzvhT-----------------------------------------------None of the views expressed on this show represent the views of eitherThe Short Box: A Comic Book Podcast Join four lifelong friends for entertaining discussions about comics and culture.Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify The Proffitt PodcastThe podcast that shows you tips & strategies to create content with confidence!Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show
Callie and Chuck talk masculinity this week! Chuck discusses growing up and having to struggle with not being considered "masculine" and Callie discusses her experiences with it and especially with toxic masculinity. We also have Curren Sheldon, an Academy-Award nominated and Emmy-winning filmmaker and photographer based in Knoxville, Tennessee who produced the series "Mountain Grown" for 100 Days in Appalachia, which details the stories of male teens in Appalachia. We highly encourage you to check it out. https://www.100daysinappalachia.com/mountain-grown/ ALSO, Callie and Chuck discuss Jimmy Buffett lifestyle and the Joe Manchin inflation reduction act, and how it impacts Appalachia. -----------------------------------------------FLOODING RESOURCES: GoFundMe for Isom IGA: https://gofund.me/a6ba2916EKY Mutual Aid Fund: https://bit.ly/3boV4U7Appalshop Latest News & Resources: https://bit.ly/3ORc9n-----------------------------------------------HELP SUPPORT APPODLACHIA!Join our Patreon, for as little as $1/month, and access live events, weekly exclusives, bonus series, and more http://www.patreon.com/appodlachia-----------------------------------------------Timestamps02:40 - Intro: Jimmy Buffett
This was nearly an episode about Lesbian Vampire Killers. Instead, we we have chosen the 1970s vampiric gothic horror masterpiece, The Vampire Lovers starring Ingrid Pitt and Peter Cushing. Is it actually scary? Probably not, but vampires are inherently queer and this one is actually a lesbian! This is a queer movie watch party for your ears, hosted by Rowan Ellis and Jazza John. Join us as we take a look at the queer film canon, one genre at a time. From rom-coms to slashers, contemporary arthouse cinema to comedy classics - Queer Movie Podcast is a celebration of all things queer on the silver screen! New episodes every other Thursday. Find Us on the Internet Super Highway - Twitter: https://twitter.com/QueerMoviePod - Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thequeermoviepodcast - Website: http://www.queermoviepodcast.co.uk/ - Multitude: @MultitudeShows Production - Hosts: Rowan Ellis and Jazza John - Editor: Julia Schifini - Executive Producer: Multitude - Artwork: Jessica E. Boyd Transcript [Intro Music] JAZZA: Welcome to the Queer Movie Podcast, celebrating the best. ROWAN: And worst. JAZZA: In LGBTQ+ cinema. One glorious genre at a time. ROWAN: I'm Rowan Ellis. JAZZA: And I'm Jazza John. Each episode we discuss a movie from a different genre of cinema. ROWAN: This episode, genre is-- ROWAN & JAZZA: Queer Horror.. JAZZA: [vampire laugh] ROWAN: Thanks, Jazza. JAZZA: But, before we dive into this week's episode, Rowan, what's the gayest thing you've done since we last spoke? ROWAN: Well, this is actually something that I've wanted to do for a long time. But every time I've tried to do it, there's been a It's not been available for me. And that is volunteering for a Queer Organization specifically for a Queer Youth Group or kind of youth mentoring organization, something like that. And there's, sadly not a lot of them in London, and a lot of them kind of were at capacity or weren't doing their services because of COVID. But at the beginning of the year, I applied and I've just found out today that I've been accepted, so I'm very excited. I've got to do some training, obviously, very soon, but yeah, I'm gonna get to do some mentoring. JAZZA: It's gonna be so cool. And you're officially becoming a Queer Elder-- ROWAN: Oh my God. JAZZA: --soon anyway, aren't you? ROWAN: Yeah, I am. JAZZA: Yeah. ROWAN: In a week's time, I will indeed hit 30 and therefore-- JAZZA: Good then. ROWAN: --become an OAP. JAZZA: Uh-huh. As a as a cis gay man, I stopped aging at 24. So let me know-- ROWAN: You never will reach that, yeah, I'll let you know what it's like. JAZZA: Awesome. Thank you so much. ROWAN: And Jazza, what's the gayest thing that you've done since we last spoke? JAZZA: So recently, the UK started lifting lockdown restrictions, right? And we were able to have familiar relations again. I had relations with an individual and was able for the first time to actually complete a full session of prep. Do you know how prep works? ROWAN: I was wondering where you were going with it. I was like, complete a full session of what? JAZZA: Yeah, it's not session-- ROWAN: --[2:00] I was like a full, a full session of-- JAZZA: A full of [2:03] like a-- ROWAN: --[2:03] relations, you able to what? JAZZA: I full cycle, a full cycle of [2:06]. ROWAN: Pretty you. JAZZA: So I do have that you're able to get it on the NHS now. And it is for anybody who doesn't know a medication that prevents you from getting HIV. And how it works is you're meant to take it two hours before you have relations. And then afterwards you've had relations in order to properly protect yourself. In the past, I have only ever prepared to have the relations and never had to complete the whole cycle of prep. ROWAN: Oh my God, that's the saddest thing I've ever heard, that's hilarious. JAZZA: Is it. ROWAN: You know what, that was excellent. That was a very good-- JAZZA: Thank you-- ROWAN: --gayest thing I've done since [2:42]-- JAZZA: Yeah yeah yeah. I feel like an actual adult now. ROWAN: Look at you. JAZZA: [2:45] yeah, look at me. Man in my 30s, finally able to look after myself. ROWAN: Full disclosure to everyone listening, Jazza as he said that grinning like a little schoolboy does have a tiny gnome figurine right behi--as he said, I felt like such an adult. There is a tiny gnome figurine right behind him. JAZZA: I'm an adult who collects plushies and plays D&D like these are-- ROWAN: You know what, fair enough. JAZZA: Yeah, these are not things that are mutually exclusive. ROWAN: Yeah, you know what, you're right. [3:09] [Transition Music] JAZZA: The film we have chosen for today is the 1970s vampiric Gothic horror masterpiece. The Vampire Lovers, starring Ingrid Pitt, and the absolute legendary Peter Cushing. So without further ado, let's start nibbling away at Roy Ward Baker's, The Vampire Lovers. ROWAN & JAZZA: [trumpet sound] ROWAN: Are you anticipating some kind of like dramatic horror music [3:47]-- JAZZA: Yeah, in my head like it's the the title card. ROWAN: Excellent. JAZZA: I actually, vampire [3:53]. ROWAN: I know we just said that we were going to go straight into talking about the history of the genre and the-- JAZZA: Uh-hmm. ROWAN: --context of it. But I just also need everyone to know not to make this the call out Jazza Podcast. But-- JAZZA: It it already is. ROWAN: --I came up with a whole list of, honestly, iconic wonderful, queer horror movies have come out. Especially some in the last few years. Because we have had an absolute amazing blossoming of queer horror within the last few years. I came up with an amazing shortlist. Jazza, came up with a movie that I immediately vetoed. That is the movie lesbian Vampire Killers. JAZZA: Uh-hmm. Which has James-- ROWAN: Which has-- JAZZA: Corden in it. ROWAN: --James Corden in it, is therefore I hate crime. And I immediately vetoed it. And then the list Jazza went through the list and it. Basically the secret came out that Jazza is a massive baby. And essentially would just was not able to watch an actual horror movie. And so-- JAZZA: Uh-hmm. ROWAN: --we have watched this movie, which is, horror in the most technical sense of the word. JAZZA: No, but it's like, it's it's a lot of foundations of horror, like, like it's a classic Gothic, lots of dark cobwebby castles. Lots of screen Queens, a couple of screen Kings. ROWAN: Yes, every element of horror except the bit where it's scary, which I think suited Jazza just fine. JAZZA: Yeah. ROWAN: I think that was-- JAZZA: 100% ROWAN: --that was, I think he's very pleased with himself that he managed to get this. Because the other, we watched some of the trailers together. And there were a few trailers that Jazz stopped halfway through and went, "Oh, yes, I think we get the idea." And then, and it was very obvious why. JAZZA: Apparently, I'm quite good to watch horror movies with. Just know that if you ever watch a a legitimate horror movie with me, that is actually scary. I'm not having a nice time. And you know what, in this podcast that I am lucky enough to have with you, Rowan. I want to have a nice time, you know? And I don't think that's too much to ask. ROWAN: Okay, well, when we connect, spend actual time together, maybe I'll just I'll be like, oh, yeah, let's watch this nice little, like animated children's movie and then just slip in a horror movie instead. You could just hold onto my hand. JAZZA: Maybe next year's Halloween, we can have a special episode again. And you couldn't actually scare the hell out of me, it will be good. ROWAN: Yeah, if everyone could just audio clip Jazza, just then essentially promising on his on his firstborn son that he will watch a horror movie with me, that'd be great. So I know that Jazza, you've done normally when we watch these movies, we do a little bit of context. And then we talk to each other and go, oh, wait, shit, did we do the same context maybe hopefully, we looked up different bits of trivia otherwise is going to be very boring for both of us. And luckily, we had kind of done a mix. So I know that you've looked up Hammer Horror, which is the kind of studio and very specific niche genre that this particular movie is in. So would you like to tell me about it? I'm ready to learn. JAZZA: Yeah yeah yeah, so a Hammer, also great name, Hammer Productions. They were a production house in the UK, who were famous for bringing a lot of classic horror from the black and white era of the 1930s into color. We making a lot of the classics like Frankenstein, Dracula, The Mummy, etc. Remaking them into color movies for audiences throughout the 1950s and 60s. The other thing that they were very well known for doing is having a butt ton of sequels for everything. So this particular movie that we're doing. The Vampire Lovers, has two sequels to it. Lust for a Vampire, released the following year, and then Twins of Evil. Which as far as I have been able to find out on the Wikipedia page was just kind of like the same plot two more times, but with different actors. But to be fair, if the punters are going to go and watch it, then why not right? The reason the The Vampire Lovers itself is quite interesting, and is that a little bit of a tipping point in terms of cinema, is because it was towards the end of the strictness of the Hays Code in the US, which is a piece of us legislation that was very tight collared, around the depictions of sex, nudity, deviant acts like homosexuality. ROWAN: I'm gonna be annoying and interrupt here is the Queer Film Historian bitch on this podcast. Because I think it's genuinely interesting. It wasn't technically a piece of like Governmental Legislation as such, it was a code that was self-imposed by Hollywood on itself, specifically, because they thought that the government will be even more harsh, so they were like, oh, shit, like, let let's just, we promise no titties, no gays, no, no-- JAZZA: No titties, no gays. ROWAN: [8:39] for gays, we promise. And and so yeah, no, it's it's a, it's one of those kind of really interesting things actually happened with the comic, comic books as well, the Comic Code Authority happened as well. JAZZA: Mmm. ROWAN: A lot of industries at the time were like, well, I guess if someone's gonna do it, it might as well be us, to ourselves. JAZZA: Uh-hmm. Yeah yeah yeah. And this was kind of like, towards the end of the prolific nature of the Hays Code. And it was still actually really hard to get this past the censors. The Vampire Lovers, which obviously, is pretty gay. There's naked ladies and there's titties absolutely everywhere. And there's also a man who dies while he's having a piss. So it's not really kind of like the highest brow of entertainment. But the reason that they were able to get especially the the gay shit through the censors, even at the time as they were expanding. Was because it was based on the original source text from the 1800s, Carmilla, which is like a classic text. And because it's seen as a classic text, they were like, actually, this is basically Shakespeare. I don't think anybody actually said that. But essentially, that's how they managed to to get around it. ROWAN: Just being true to the original. JAZZA: Yeah yeah, exactly. But yeah, we're watching a a movie about lesbian vampires. Of course, there's going to be a little bit of a camper and Gothic horror is always just a little bit of camp. But it's also a really interesting moment in kind of like the attitudes of prudishness, that were in Hollywood throughout the 50s and 60s. ROWAN: Absolutely. I do, I do agree with you like Hammer Horror is just camp, it's just campy. Like it just has that energy to it in general-- JAZZA: It is now. ROWAN: --and I think as well like well, we'll talk about this when we're actually talking about the plot and the performances and stuff in the next section. But yeah, the acting of the time was not exactly the most based in like realism. And and I think that that style of acting that was popular then I think just is so imbued with camp-- JAZZA: Uh-huh. ROWAN: --as you look back on it now. Even if this hadn't had a load of vampires in it, I feel like it still would have felt a little bit-- JAZZA: Uh-hmm. ROWAN: --kind of queer energy. JAZZA: A 100%. It reminded me an awful lot of like Ryan Murphy guy. ROWAN: Oh, yeah. JAZZA: Which obviously is referential to this era of horror. And I was like, Oh, I 100% understand where all of these references now come from in, like our modern media as well. Rowan, you had, a you also went away and did some of your own research you clever bookworm slash website were around like, vampires, sexuality, all of those things. Would you end up fine, come on, show and tell. ROWAN: Well, basically, for those for those who don't know about the history of the vampire, it's kind of appears in a lot of different folktales and legends around different places. Just I think the idea of someone who needs to drain other people of their blood, which is very much linked to like, you know, lifeforce in a lot of cultures. It makes sense that there will be kind of mythology around that, and and kind of scary tales, and all that kind of thing. But it kind of didn't necessarily get a kind of literary grounding until the early 1800s. Were John Polidori, wrote The Vampyre, which was actually created kind of as part of the sort of Gothic horror writing contest that also produced, Frankenstein. It was a good, it was a good time that they were having in that rainy manor house. And kind of interestingly, the history of vampires, I think, has not necessarily been, obviously in the mainstream link to queerness. But when you start looking into the history of it, it's a lot of like reading between the lines when it's going on. So, for example, that original text of Vampyre, a lot of people kind of thought that potentially the that kind of central character was based on Lord Byron. There was a bit of a mix up as to who had originally written the tale. And it was attributed Lord Byron originally and then kind of had to be redacted. And so you kind of have this element of like, oh, there's this creeping queerness in there. And that only became like, more intensified when it came to Dracula, which came a bit later. Because again, Bram Stoker, lots of rumors about him being gay, he had a very close relationship with Oscar Wilde. He wrote some frankly, adoring love letters to Walt Whitman, really, really, very gay letters to Walt Whitman. And there are just some quotes that come up in the book that feel very much like they are centered around the kind of repressed, a repressed homosexuality-- JAZZA: Uh-hmm. ROWAN: --shall we say. A lot of people have pointed out the fact that he basically started to write Dracula very, very soon after Oscar Wilde's trial and conviction. And that there was potentially a link between that and like the anxieties of being this like queer man who was worried about being like, discovered. So obviously, as with much of queer history, it is not provable. But I do think it's very interesting. And it's something a lot of people have have talked about. But yeah, I think vampire stories in general, as well as being kind of horror, obviously have a lot of links to the idea of sexuality, and and sexual anxieties, I guess over the years. JAZZA: When we're looking at this area as well. It's really difficult to kind of like put the gay label on it. Because it wasn't a term that they used for themselves-- ROWAN: No. JAZZA: --either, but we're just kind of trying to view it for our own lens. ROWAN: Yeah, exactly. So in Dracula, for example, you've got Lucy, the character of Lucy, who's this kind of like symbol of the new woman. So kind of more independent and breaking free of the constraints of society, especially sexual constraints. And so if she sort of gives herself or is compromised by this kind of foreign invader, then she becomes this corrupted figure, which is very, you know, if you read through the lines, metaphorically, it's very much a sort of like fallen woman virginity loss kind of situation. And then yeah, I mean, spoiler alert for Dracula, but she ends up being staked by like, all of the men who she had been pursuing at one point or another during the story, and dies-- JAZZA: Uh-hmm. ROWAN: --this death that's very, like writhing around and bleeding, and it's very kind of like, you know, symbolically resonant in a lot of ways. So yeah, I think I think that like even if you come to Twilight, or to more modern depictions of vampires, it doesn't necessarily have a Victorians lens of sexuality. It has a modern lens, but it's still feels like it might be commenting in some way. So there's a lot more sort of, in the vampire as the romantic lead for women's or like girls fiction, it becomes much more about a man who needs to control his natural impulses, and that he's able to do it for you. The female love interest. JAZZA: That's the Twilight stuff isn't? ROWAN: Exactly. JAZZA: I'll be honest, I wasn't even I wasn't even making that link in like, I feel like Twilight is such a long time ago now. ROWAN: Ancient history. JAZZA: Yeah, yeah. But like, seriously, but yeah, I didn't even make that link of kind of like sexual request-ness. But then I haven't really read, I haven't read any of the Twilight books, I've only seen the movie. So maybe that's why it's not at the front of my mind. ROWAN: Well, allegedly Stephenie Meyer did come up with the idea from some kind of romantically charged dream that she had. And she is quite from quite a religious background. So I think that the sexual repression and morality element to it is, it's not has not been not commented on by people in the past. So yeah, so I definitely think that the vampire legend and mythology and stuff has always had links to sex in some way and to that kind of forbidden element of sex. And I think that that only gets more apparent when you talk about sex that is genuinely forbidden and taboo in the way that kind of same gender relationships might be. So yeah, it completely makes sense, lesbian vampires completely make sense on a literary level. And it very much is not just a kind of, ohhh, she's sexy, and she's a lesbian, and she's a vampire. It's like, oh, there is actually some kind of literary backing to making this a a thing in your films. JAZZA: Did you have because I accidentally came across this while I was looking through stuff around the source material for The Vampire Lovers, which is like a a vampire novel that predates Dracula by a couple of decades called Carmilla. About a lesbian female vampire. And apparently she's based on this Hungarian, I believe she's a Princess. She's a fancy person, uhm, called Elizabeth Boothroyd. Have you seen her a bit about her? ROWAN: If this is who I think it is? Yeah, I think she married into a family and got an absolute ton of land and power from it and use that to allegedly just kill a lot of servant girls, and some minor nobility. JAZZA: Some set I don't think we have to say allegedly anymore. This was in like the the 15, 16 [16:54]-- ROWAN: She's not gonna [16:55]-- JAZZA: [16:56] I think we're gonna get sued by Elizabeth III of Hungary fame, but she apparently killed up to 650 people and there was some people who say that she used to bathe in their blood to maintain like youth? Some of this is urban legends now, and there's some people that say that she inspired because she was from the Kingdom of Hungary. Which at that time included, Slovakia and Romania, which is kind of like the part of the world that is where like, vampiric culture comes from, I guess? And some people even suggest that she inspired Carmilla and Dracula. But yeah, like, it's an interesting part of kind of like also the, the empowered woman as well, which was definitely, I mean, deviant for the time that vampire novels became really, really big in the Victorian era. But certainly for like the 1500-1600s when she was alive, as well. And kind of like the fear and the weariness of the empowered, maybe sexualized women as well. I kind of like themes that run through this type of horror too. ROWAN: Indeed, without I guess, should we go into talking about the actual movie and how the lesbian vampires sort of displays herself. JAZZA: Displays herself. ROWAN: Displays herself in this movie JAZZA: Sometimes literally displays herself-- ROWAN: Quite literally. JAZZA: Uh-hmm. [18:15] [Transition Music] [18:15] [ADS] JAZZA: Dear listener, there's only so many times you can lean on your ability to make a [18:25] gin and tonic. Trust me, I've had the headaches to prove it. Sometimes you need to shake up your drinks trolley, pun intended, and shaker and spoon subscription cocktail box is the perfect way to do that. Each box they send you contains enough ingredients to make three different cocktails with your favorite Spirits. All you need is to buy your own bottle and then you have all you need to craft 12 cocktails at home. 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Dr. Moyer McTeer is the host and as the coolest job description of Astrophysicist and folklorist. Which honestly, has made wondering what I've been doing with my life. Each episode she goes through the how to of fictional world creation, meaning you can apply her findings to any and all creative projects that you yourself are working on. Are you creating a home route for your D&D table? Are you scribbling away on your first Sci-fi novel? Do you find this stuff interesting? That's fine, too. Honestly, it's necessary educational listening. I had a particularly fun time listening to Moyer and guest Clark Robinson go through the mechanics of building a world magic system. And I think you'll find it interesting too. So go give X0 Law a listen, and tell the doctor we sent you. Now, back to the show. [21:02] [Transition Music] ROWAN: So we normally split this into three different parts. JAZZA: Uh-hmm. ROWAN: We haven't conferred beforehand about what those parts are going to look like for this particular movie. But I have a feeling that we have a very similar thru line. JAZZA: Hmm. ROWAN: The first part I have referred to, because there was only one way we could refer to this part, given that in so many other films that we have covered in our previous episodes. This was also the title of a section of the film. JAZZA: Uh-hmm. ROWAN: The Party and its Aftermath. JAZZA: Yeah. 100% It starts with the party and its aftermath. It's very all interesting things start with a party, as does this movie. ROWAN: Yeah, for some reason, so many stories. Normally, the party in its aftermath is the last act. JAZZA: Uh-hmm. ROWAN: Whereas in this one, it's, it's the first so essentially, what happens at the beginning of this movie is that we have this man who's narrating talking about the fact that his sister has died and he is going on this revenge plot. Castle ruins, evil European family, some very helpful vampire lore up front. He lets us-- JAZZA: Uh-huh. ROWAN: know you got to decapitate them. You got a stake in through the heart. We're getting a lot of exposition, but you know what, that's just how he rolls. JAZZA: It was quick. It was quick and acceptable. I feel like you know, for [22:20]-- ROWAN: Ding, ding, ding! Here we go. JAZZA: But also, is anyone gonna come into something called The Vampire Lovers, cold as to what a vampire is. ROWAN: Unlikely. JAZZA: Like, I feel like most people are probably gonna know broadly, what a vampire is and how you kill it. ROWAN: Exactly. So it's it's the classic star of the vampire killer is here. He's narrating to us what's about to happen. We have a very fast zoom in on a guy's neck with fang bites. The camera angles and uses within this movie are just very intense. They really love a good zoom in, dramatic zoom in. They really like a good kind of interesting shots, shall we say throughout this. Which I did, did think heighten the camp element. But with, yeah, very quintessential have a horror stuff. The evil figure of the vampire looked like I would say a Halloween sheet ghost costume, mixed with a Dementor. JAZZA: Oh, well, you have ruined that now. I thought it looks like really quite impressive. ROWAN: I did as well. Yeah, no, that isn't to diminish how-- JAZZA: Okay, cool. ROWAN: --creepy it did look. JAZZA: Cool. I think that is an accurate description of what it was dressed as to be fair. ROWAN: Yeah, I was like, you know what, if people aren't going to go back and watch this movie, if they're just listening this to to hear a little bit about lesbian vampires. I want to paint them a picture. And the picture is-- JAZZA: Uh-hmm. ROWAN: --a teenager. You know what I'm going to build on this picture. The picture is a teenager who has been asked by their parents to take out their little kid sister and the local sisters friends trick or treating at Halloween. He obviously is too cool for Halloween costumes at this point. He's at that age where it's not cool again. And it's it's, it was cool when he was a kid but he's like, he's he's 15 now, yeah? So he is like, "Urgh, fine!" And he goes into the airing covered and he just gets a sheet and he's like, "Are you happy now?" And he cuts it lies in the sheets. He doesn't care. It's that mix with a Dementor? JAZZA: Uh-hmm, and lace. ROWAN: Yeah. JAZZA: There was lots of lakes. ROWAN: Yeah. JAZZA: Yeah, ROWAN: If you just put that in your head. You've seen him, you can imagine it. JAZZA: Yeah, 100%. I also love the like beyond just the vampire and the fact that it is a bedsheet. I love the rest of the costuming in this movie, but especially our narrator and the fact that he's there with kind of like his large Bejeweled ring, long sideburns and kind of like ruffled lace cuffs as well. And as he's got kind of got his hand up to his face in shock like, "Huh?!!", you see the rough come out of his sleeve. oh, and it's quite beautiful. It's it's beautiful [24:53], I love it. And all of that coupled with like the artificial fog on the clearly papier-mâché castle. The fake IV and the fact that it's all moonlit night time. I loved it. I was here for it. I felt like I was on a movie set because I was. ROWAN: Oh yeah, I've completely agree with you there. My note that I made for this section was for a movie about lesbian vampires. We're getting a lot of this random dude. JAZZA: Who disappears for-- ROWAN: He disappears-- JAZZA: --the rest of the movie, by the way. ROWAN: --for most of the rest of the movie, he comes back at the end. JAZZA: Uh-hmm. Yeah, and comes back at the very end to ruin it with men. ROWAN: Yes, well, I mean, what we don't want to give you any spoilers right now. You're gonna get spoilers in approximately how many minutes and take hours to get to the end act. The other note I made was vampire girl is cute and blonde has very shiny hair, please drop the routine. So I was thinking-- JAZZA: I think, I think it's being, I think, I think the routine is being immortal. ROWAN: You know what? That makes sense, that checks out. I will say, and we kind of briefly talked about this before we started to record. But the the effects were really good. The there's a computation that happens at this point, and genuinely very, very good special effects, very well-practical effects. JAZZA: Yeah, like they had Madame Tussaud's head being like, cut off loads of blood everywhere. I laughed when the vampire was killed at the beginning of the movie. I'm sure people in 1970 may have been genuinely shocked. It's-- ROWAN: Mmm. JAZZA: --really difficult for me to put myself in the mindset of somebody in the 1970s. ROWAN: I don't know whether someone in the 1970s didn't I I think they understood what movies were, Jazza. Like I don't think that they were that gonna be that shocked? I think. JAZZA: It's not quite like in the 1920s when they first showed people a train covered [26:45]-- ROWAN: Yeah and they ran away. JAZZA: --and people ran out of the movie. Yeah, yeah yeah. ROWAN: No, I think that, I think that there was like, it was campy back then it was campy now. It was very much, yeah, my favorite bit of this whole big very, very beginning section before we get to the party, is the disclaimer. Because it goes from this section. It's like a good cold open if, you know, this guy's a vampire hunters. He's a eventing a sister, this is woman who's going around trying to kill people. We get some some of him explaining how to kill a vampire. And we also get her just being really really scared of a cross so you know, ohh, that bit of laws also correct. But once when the kind of credits start to roll at the beginning, there is a disclaimer that any characters or events portrayed are clearly fictitious, which definitely feels like something real vampires making a movie would say. JAZZA: You saying, are we gonna have to make keep our eye out for more evidence that these are actual vampires making actual movies? ROWAN: Is Peter Cushing a vampire? Who can tell? JAZZA: Actually, you know what? He was somehow invoke one, so-- ROWAN: He does have the vibes. JAZZA: Yeah. ROWAN: So then we get to the actual party, which is so aggressively 60s in its hair, makeup and clothing. JAZZA: Oh my god, the eyeliner? ROWAN: It's incredible. JAZZA: --the eyeliner. I was taking notes for my drag character. Like I am doing cat eyes from now on. ROWAN: I would honestly love to see you as a in drag as a lesbian vampire. I feel like that will be beautiful. JAZZA: Hey, just you weren't into Halloween this year. ROWAN: It'll happen. Also in in in, again, with the over the top style acting the over the top style props and stuff. I'm not gonna lie to you, there is no way that you could watch this film with the sound on and not know who the baddies are. Because the music, really is not subtle. There is no no subtleties to this music, you very quickly know who is you're meant to find menacing. Which they needed to do because the acting is so wooden. It's really trying to like give you something give you some indication because the characters are basically just standing around without expressions. JAZZA: And also like makeup. So you assume that the man who clearly has a inch of white stick on his face. You assume that he is the bad guy vampire, because he turns up has a flowy cape and is whiter than I am. ROWAN: Uhmm. JAZZA: Which is saying something. ROWAN: Now's a good time to point out this man. So basically the plot of the party is there's like, well, there's not much but essentially it's just an excuse for our lead lesbian vampire to turn up. And for her, we assume lesbian vampire mother to, I don't know why I said lesbian, specifically of. Mainly, we can assume she's a vampire. She might also be a lesbian, it's unconfirmed. Kind of drops her off and is like, Oh no, who will look after my daughter while I conveniently have to go away. JAZZA: Uh-hmm. ROWAN: And they're like, well, I guess we'll look after her. So this whole party is essentially setting up, that she's gonna have to stay with this family for a little while. But every so often interspersed is just the aforementioned man that Jazza has just briefly described. Who just has a very bad like white face paint makeup on and looks very Draculary and just sort of grins a lot. And he's just never explained the entire movie, it's great. JAZZA: Yeah, and every now and again, throughout the movie, there will be a shot of the lesbian vampires doing lesbian vampire things, And then that will cast away as a transition to a silhouette of the man with the white face on the on the horse. And I'm like, this movie wants us to believe that this this, I assume that, we know he is a vampire. He's confirmed to be a vampire at the end, because he smiles and has the-- ROWAN: It's canon. JAZZA: Yeah, it's canon. But he is confirmed to be a vampire. And I'm like, are we to believe that he is the one pulling the strings of everything? I think that's what we're meant to believe. In which case I kind of dislike because part of the thing that I loved about this movie was the women leads and women like the middle section of the movie is just the women kind of like conversing and trying to kill one another. Why does there have to be a male puppet, puppet master? But then I realized, or, like shoot this down Rowan, and I'm sure you will if you if you do think it is shit. ROWAN: Pew, pew. JAZZA: Pew pew. He's Dracula, right? ROWAN: Well, okay, so it's this question of like, the Dracula character is so well-known and so iconic in everything about him. Not necessarily the actual original Dracula from the book because most depictions of Dracula are nothing like him. But the image of him that has been created by Hollywood by movies and by kind of not even just urban legends. But like people's people's imagination from from movies and like physical-- JAZZA: Uh-hmm uh-hmm. ROWAN: --representations of him. So I think it will be very logical to assume that it was meant to be Dracula. But it's it may be it's just because he is so synonymous with vampires we see. If we saw any vampire that looked vaguely like old timey pale skin, we would maybe assume it was Dracula. JAZZA: But then who else is it going to be? Like, so Carmilla is our titular vampire lover. ROWAN: uh-hmm. JAZZA: And apart from Dracula, like obviously, they're originally from different universes from different books. They are-- ROWAN: Different cinematic universes. JAZZA: Yeah yeah. This this is like Marvel and DC. ROWAN: Most ambitious crossover, The Vampire Lovers. JAZZA: But if it's going to be anybody, I feel like it has to be Dracula. ROWAN: Yeah. JAZZA: Because, I feel like nobody else is gonna be calling the shots for Carmilla. ROWAN: Uhmm. JAZZA: And even arguably, you'd argue that Carmilla wouldn't be like canonically in the book. She wouldn't be taking any direction from no man. But-- ROWAN: Indeed. JAZZA: So we should probably introduce Carmilla, our main lesbian vampire. ROWAN: At this point going by Marcilla-- JAZZA: Marci-- ROWAN: --in an extremely clever, different version of her name. JAZZA: Yeah. ROWAN: It's not it was like it was a fake name, but it was just weirdly close to her actual name. JAZZA: It's a little bit too close, right? So she is played by Ingrid Pitt, who is a Polish-British Actress, and her Wikipedia page, incredibly impressive. She is a Holocaust survivor. Did you know that? ROWAN: I didn't. It's really, I mean, the Hammer Horror, I know that we're kind of taking the mick out of it. But ultimately, they it has produced some incredibly iconic, especially British Actors and Actresses. JAZZA: Uh-hmm. ROWAN: A lot of them were in like, a ton of those very specific Hammer Horror movies and like, very much became, like icons because of it. So I didn't know that about her. But we love to learn. JAZZA: Yes, she's a, she was a a a Polish Jew and was born 1937 was in a concentration camp in, in Poland. Managed to escape to the UK. And then what it was the era when all of the all of Hollywood were kind of like marrying like seven or eight times. She's had several marriages, she's not had seven or eight, she's had three marriages. But what had the whole classic thing of you know what, I'm just going to become an Actress. Moved to Hollywood, was a waitress for years until she got discovered. And I've got to say, I think that she carries the rest of the cast, I will say including, Peter Cushing. ROWAN: How dare you, sir. JAZZA: I I mean, this is one of his performances. There are other things that he's done better. But she carries this whole movie on her shoulders, I think Ingrid Pitt. I think that she is not, she's not so camp, that it makes it funny. But she really ups the energy, like throughout the film in all of the scenes and the development of her character. ROWAN: Yeah, I agree. So I I kind of made a note about this, I think that you can see within her fighting to get out is some complexity around Carmilla. To the point where I like kept thinking it was going to be discussed in some way. So what essentially happens as I mentioned at the party, we it's it's a mechanism for Carmilla and Laura to become friends and have to stay together in the house. JAZZA: Uhm. ROWAN: Laura, basically slowly starts losing her mind. She starts suffering from nightmares that she's being attacked by this giant cat. She screams a lot. Oh, boy, do they love to scream in this. JAZZA: I love it so much. ROWAN: It's I, okay, I'm going to give you another metaphor for the scream. The scream is like, the scream that you get in a high school movie. When a teenager has been punked by their younger brother. And their hair, like their hair has been dyed green. And they look directly into the mirror that is also directly into the camera and they take a deep breath and then they scream. And then the camera zooms out, like to the house and into the like country and then a load of-- JAZZA: Yeah, yeah yeah. ROWAN: --birds like flutter out of trees. That's the vibe-- JAZZA: Yeah. ROWAN: --from every scream and there's multiple in this particular movie. JAZZA: Well I love Rowan is that we're very quickly realizing that this season of recording review podcasts, all of your references are going to be to team trash moments. Like that's-- ROWAN: Yeah, the best of all genres. Other than horror, but I know that you can't handle that, obviously. So I decided to [35:37]-- JAZZA: [35:37] lead by you. ROWAN: So yeah, this is very kind of classic Gothic idea of like, slowly trying to figure out like, what's real? What's not real? Did I might actually being attacked? This is a nightmare. Has someone caused me to feel this way? And while this is happening, we get this very intense kind of friendship going on between these two women. I think there's literally an an exchange or one of them says I shall die when you leave. And the other is like, I shall never leave you. And then they do kissy kiss, kiss kiss. JAZZA: Uh-hmm. ROWAN: But what's also really interesting to me, which I actually feel like I still see a lot in lesbian movies is that there is no actual relationship development. Which makes sense in this film, because it's like supernatural allure, right? It's like her being like, I'm just this lesbian vampire. And so you're gonna fall for me, even though we literally have never had a conversation properly. Like, we never see that on screen. But I often see that to my mind, at least in lesbian movies. Especially the like historic lesbian movies, where they just really love to bank on the idea of like the repressed women trope. And so they're like, we don't have to have them have conversations and talk about things because they've repressed, right? They just sort of inexplicably now want to kiss. There's no build up and nothing and no discussions. And so I was like, at least here it makes sense. Canonically with the idea of her having this like sexual allure to her victims. JAZZA: Yeah, it kind of does. I I I will, and this is something that people smarter than me have talked about, about Carmilla the original text from the 1800s. Where she juxtaposes with a character like Dracula, because Carmilla actually seems to genuinely fall in love with the people that she ends up killing, alternative vampires. And I felt like Pitt's depiction of the, she was really good at kind of like, I believed that she really did care for these young women that she ended up, spoiler, kills. ROWAN: Uhm. Yeah, completely agree. There's these, there are just these moments where she's the character on her own like, and she suddenly has this look of like, deep grief or deep sadness or deep like confliction in her. And I'm like, oh, if this wasn't a Hammer Horror, like I, this same story could be played out. And we really could have dug into the idea of like, I need to do this to survive, or like I cannot, this is what I was meant to do. Like, I've been living for hundreds of years. And this is what's always happened. But this is like, mentally horrific. And I feel like there's some interesting like vampire media that does explore this idea of like, what do you do if you just keep on living? And you have to hurt people in order to survive, like, what does that look like? That and see, or-- JAZZA: Uh-hmm. ROWAN: --seeing that conflict of someone who has fallen for someone for that, for real for the first time. That previously it hadn't been things like, these things are really interesting to explore, not where this film is going. Another spoiler alert gang, there there is no complex comes, the biggest complexity is this very specific look that we have interpreted from an actress who was not given anything else in the script to work with. JAZZA: Yeah. Shall we just say this up before? Up the [38:37]-- ROWAN: We shout. JAZZA: --out for that. The script is not this movie's strong point. ROWAN: Uhm. Yeah, if you couldn't have told that already. I feel like we've really hinted quite heavily at it, so far. JAZZA: Yes. ROWAN: But yeah, so the end of this first section is essentially, Laura is bitten. She has these fang bites on her. She she dies, and Marcilla is like, Bye!!! JAZZA: Yeah, disappears. ROWAN: I'm out of here, baby. JAZZA: Uh-hmm. ROWAN: And so we get to our second section. [39:04] [Transition Music] JAZZA: So that first section has basically, it's the bullet point version of what's going to happen next with a new girl, essentially. ROWAN: Uh-hmm. JAZZA: That's what going to happen-- ROWAN: Yes, that's exactly. That's exactly it. JAZZA: Like this is what Carmilla does. She is parachuted in convolutedly to be, to befriend a young woman in a manor house. And then gradually over time, kills her, while terrorizing the local peasantry as well. Because every now and again we'll have like a peasant washer woman running through the forest. Who then stumbles falls and then screams and does the as you said, that [scream] kind of moment. ROWAN: Wonderful impression. Yes. JAZZA: Thank you. I'm conscious of of peeking the mic. Otherwise, I would delete, you know, I [39:52]-- ROWAN: Oh, yeah. No, I know you would. So this one we get a little more titillation, though. Like we functionally you're right, it's exactly the same story. But we do get a little more titillation. So we have like Emma comes into Carmilla's room. Welcome in there is just naked in the bath, and just has a casual conversation about-- JAZZA: Uh-hmm. ROWAN: --the dresses that they're going to wear and Carmilla's like, you should take everything off for you try on this dress, because it ruins the shape to have underwear on. And she's like, oh, okay, like there's literally no reason for the scene apart from for the audience have like this kind of sex and fear and horror and campaign nudity and like all this stuff coming together in in the way that it's often does. So even at that point, I was like, oh, this is ridiculous. And then they start chasing each other around while topless in, what I genuinely think might be the most unconvincing chase scene in all of cinema. JAZZA: It's kind of like when you see if the like, in in maybe a more modern movie where two women have been asked to, do a pillow fight and and it's sexy. Just trust me, it's sexy. All the way through this second conquest of Carmilla of Emma's character who is this the wide idiot, frankly. ROWAN: Yeah, she does have a type doesn't she? JAZZA: Yeah yeah. Oh my God, I didn't even think of it like that. But yeah yeah, though I did it. But she like I I I found myself questioning all the way through kind of like this moment of undressing and Ooh, tits or bear ass, you know. I don't want and can you answer this for me? Is this sexy? ROWAN: Well as a sexual lesbian, Jazza, I don't really, I I'm both highly qualified and utterly unqualified to answer that question-- JAZZA: Which is-- ROWAN: --no, not in my mind. But I think as well it's it's it's that I think that the sexiness with this release, I don't know maybe there's probably some lesbians that are just like, yes, tits. But I think, like, we have them, we know what they look like. So it's kind of like, what did someone else I feel like it's the connection that that-- JAZZA: Made that that logic. I just, I just want to put this out there that logic does not-- ROWAN: Not, no, that's fair enough. JAZZA: Yeah. ROWAN: But it is this thing of like, there is literally no feeling of connection between them during that chase scene. Like, I think there are other bits where there's more like when they're doing this sort of hypnotizes seductressy bit that like, feels like they're-- JAZZA: Uh-hmm. ROWAN: --slightly monstering chemistry. But like, that scene where they're chasing each other around could not have been-- JAZZA: Less sexy. ROWAN: --less sexy, if it tried like it just in an embarrassing kind of way that's like, Oh, God, I guess I'm watching this now, this is happening. Because I do think as well, it is like, it is very funny to me, because I think immediately just reminds me of the super, the super cliche to the point where it's almost become a meme thing that happens with gay male characters in movies. And in porn as well, where they, they kind of have a like, they're sort of play fighting, and then suddenly, it's like, oh, no, now we are on top of each other and it is sexual. JAZZA: Uh-huh. ROWAN: Like-- JAZZA: CRGBF episode. ROWAN: Yeah, it's like it's it's such a trope. And it's so funny that it kind of like this was like, even less convincing than those things. I was really interested to see, because this was on so many sort of, like, you know, classic queer movie lists. But typically movies that are this old, you don't really have the actual canonical confirmation in any way. And you definitely do in this movie, like they, they really have it up and although it does fall into the trope, we'll talk about in a second about like, kind of the evil lesbian trope. It's supernatural and over the top and kind of didn't mind it in that way. But yeah, once again, Emma starts having nightmares. Start screaming, everyone else kind of goes away on like, the day goes away on business. She has a suitor, but he's not you know, it's it's in the olden times. So he doesn't really come-- JAZZA: Uh-hmm, uh-hmm. ROWAN: --around all the time. He just occasionally, he'll turn up. But we'll be do have it's a little bit different is the kind of Governess character-- JAZZA: Yeah. ROWAN: --like Mme. Perrodot, who's kind of like becomes this accomplice to Carmilla. Because she's just seducing everyone. JAZZA: I love Carmilla and The Governess. And I want them to go away and have a home with the what was the cat's name? Gustav. ROWAN: Oh, yeah, you know what-- JAZZA: I want to-- ROWAN: --you're right. JAZZA: --go move to a cottage in the Romanian countryside and just live with Gustav. Because, uhm, so as well as seducing Emma, Carmilla begins seducing and killing all of the peasantry around the mansion. Carmilla begins to seduce The Governess. And that is when it does get sexy. And I was like, oh, all of a sudden there actually feels like there is chemistry between these two women. And I thought that Carmilla had turned The Governess into a vampire? But it turns out that she doesn't that The Governess is just have familia and just really fancy is the pants off of Carmilla. ROWAN: Uh-hmm. JAZZA: And to be fair with an ass like that. ROWAN: I mean, who can blame her? JAZZA: Mmm. ROWAN: But yeah, that's an interesting thing here. Again, I'll come back to when we talk about lesbian trips versus exchange that happens between Emma and Carmilla about, you know, I love you. I don't want anyone taking you away from me and Emma being like, we'll always be friends. She's like, no, it's not the same thing, it's different. I want you to love me for all your life. Like it's very much the idea of like Carmilla is the predatory, kind of obsessive like actual lesbian. And then you have this like poor innocent Emma who didn't didn't understand what was happening. Like-- JAZZA: Uh-hmm. ROWAN: --she didn't know that that was what was going on in the mind of this perverted lesbian vampire. JAZZA: I sometimes also get the the feeling that Carmilla was a bit of a like the lesbian version of a nagging dude, bro. Like she keeps on telling, telling Emma there's, ahh you talk such nonsense. Like, getting really defensive about the way that she feels about funerals, for example. ROWAN: Oh, bloody he hates funerals. JAZZA: Completely gaslights, Emma about like the bite marks on her being from a brooch and not from anything else. ROWAN: Yeah, truly Carmilla is the gaslight, gatekeeper, girlboss of all, of all [46:00]-- JAZZA: That is, that is the classification that we needed. Thank you very much, Rowan, I appreciate it. ROWAN: I don't know if you had anything else to say about this section. Cuz I think the third section is like the boys are back in town. JAZZA: Oh, I called the third section. Lesbian Vampire Killers. ROWAN: Oh, yeah. You know what, that also works very well. [46:16] [Transition Music] ROWAN: This is essentially when all of the guys and tada like, hey, I don't know whether you've noticed how every woman is dying in the local area by having their blood drained. But I think there may be foul play at work. JAZZA: Uh-hmm. Can I just say the men, they have been practically no men having speaking parts in this movie, for like a good 50% of the middle part of it. The first 25% is Carmilla and the aftermath party. And then we have 50% of just women. seducing one another and being hot. And-- ROWAN: And Gustav, the cat. JAZZA: --and, and Gustav, the cat, of course. So I won't forget Gustav, the cat. And then these men come in. And I'll be completely honest, I forgotten who most of them were. ROWAN: Oh, yeah, I fully could not remember any of these men were. JAZZA: And what their relationships were with the women previously. So it is all of the aggrieved men who have been affected by cumulus murdering. So it is the father of Laura who she killed in act one. It is the suitor of Emma, who-- ROWAN: Uh-hmm. JAZZA: --at this point is going through the stages of death as well. And also the father of Emma as well, who has just come back from business. ROWAN: Ooh, and surprised that guy from the beginning who who was narrating. JAZZA: Oh, sure, the guy of the sideburns. ROWAN: Yeah. JAZZA: [47:52] caps. ROWAN: [47:52] there's also just randomly like, there's a Doctor, there's a butler, there's a landlord. JAZZA: Yeah, all of these men that, I'll be honest movie I didn't I don't care about and I feel like it wanted us to root for the men because they're the ones who are like injustice. And I was like, now I know that Carmilla is going around and killing all of these doe wide dumb women. But I'm on her side, I'll be completely honest. And I kind of want the men to leave them alone so that they can have their happy lesbian life with The Governess and Gustav. ROWAN: Yeah. And instead, the men keep trying to bring garlic flowers into their room, which is honestly-- JAZZA: [48:27] ROWAN: --very rude. JAZZA: Yeah, so one of the workers in the mansion, Mr. Venton, is supposed to be a, no, he's not really a hero. Basically, I immediately dislike him because we introduced him as he slaps the ass of a bar wench in the peasant village. He then decides, oh, yeah, definitely everything that's happening to Emma is vampiric in nature. He reckons the vampire is The Governess, actually, rather than Carmilla. And then starts talking with the landlord of the local pub, and getting advice and so brings in garlic flowers to Emma's bedroom, to try and ward off the vampires and causing a Doctor who also as well as encouraging the use of these flowers, brings in a a crucifix and puts it around Emma's neck. Which makes it impossible for both Carmilla and for The Governess to go into the womb and to complete the killing of our delight [49:33] ROWAN: Yeah. Which ultimately, yeah, great plan to be honest, it did work. They pretty foolproof. JAZZA: Yeah, it was pretty good until Venton get seduced by Carmilla and just goes, you know what, all I want to do is make out with you and I'm going to like murder this girl for it. And you know what? I was happy to see him die at the hands of Carmilla, good for her. ROWAN: And then she's also like, ohh, going to kill the Doctor and all, like just the though we have a nice scene when the Doctor's Horse get super spooked. And she somehow, I guess is teleported there. Because she never really seems to leave the house and yet she's always off body killing people. So yeah she's, she's like you know what? We, enough of this. JAZZA: Uh-hmm. ROWAN: No thank you. So kind of simultaneously while all of the the lads are going on a little road trip to her old family castle to try and-- JAZZA: Yeah, where she's buried. ROWAN: Yeah. JAZZA: Yeah. ROWAN: She's like Oop, time for a kidnap and decides to essentially kidnap Emma, and in the process dump The Governess. JAZZA: Can I just say this just cemented, cemented Carmilla was an, as the absolute fuck boy if this movie, ROWAN: You're, you know what? You're absolutely right. She is-- JAZZA: Like-- ROWAN: --she is the fuck boy-- JAZZA: --literally-- ROWAN: --of this movie. JAZZA: --The Governess is there on the floor, begging, take me with you. She loves you, she wants to create that life with Gustav. ROWAN: She wants the cottage called dream with the cat-- JAZZA: [50:58] of this-- ROWAN: --and, in the woods, in Romanian. JAZZA: Who knew in the 1970s that this was going to pave the way for the Cottagecore Movement and-- ROWAN: I know, right. JAZZA: --Lesbian Cottagecore Movement. ROWAN: That's the true history of it. And then there's so much screaming again, classic. Because she decides to to feed on The Governess and-- JAZZA: Yeah. ROWAN: --maybe shouldn't have done that in front of Emma. If she wanted Emma-- JAZZA: Uh-hmm. ROWAN: --to come away with her. But you know she did and that's on her. So all the screaming again. And then the suitor is here to save the day, whose name is Carl. Which-- JAZZA: Didn't know it is, no, I completely missed that. What? That's very funny-- ROWAN: It's Carl, yeah. Carl's here to save the day and so Carmilla-- JAZZA: Carl.. ROWAN: --looks like, ohh, well, I guess a bit of skip town. This is too much for me, and then runs back to the castle. Which obviously we as the audience know is filled with the lads who are up to no good. JAZZA: The Lesbian Vampire Killer. ROWAN: Yeah. The Lesbian Vampire Killer, the lads. And so yeah, she just runs back to the castle, has a little nap. And then while she's napping, doesn't notice them all come around her coffin and and stab her in the heart. JAZZA: I can I just say they don't, she doesn't notice them. Finding her coffin, moving a massive, kind of like slate off of her coffin. Carrying her coffin into the chapel, opening the coffin, then moving her dress down so that expose his, her chest and then placing the stake on her breast so that they can actually stub her. She doesn't notice any of that, she's fast asleep, bless her. ROWAN: She's hibernating, [52:22] we nap and she deserves it. JAZZA: Very cute. This is all happening during the night as well. And that's when she's to be awake? ROWAN: Hmm, doing question is fine. She's she's hibernating. JAZZA: And then they once again they stab her through the chest. She is then decapitated, which again, the physical effects of this movie. We're not what I was expecting for 1970, that is very nice. ROWAN: That's very good. JAZZA: Have we gone backwards? ROWAN: Possibly, I I genuinely feel like the special effects of Jurassic Park hold up better than the special effects of Jurassic World. So, yes, you're you're correct. The audience of the goodies. JAZZA: I am with you. ROWAN: I really enjoyed that they were like yeah, Peter Cushing can have the killing blow. He's a he's the star of this, is no real connection to a lot of what's going on here but sure. And then at the end come in his portrait on the wall has changed to be all vampire instead of all hot like she was before. JAZZA: Very doing great. ROWAN: Yeah, it's great. It was it was very much like Chekhov's decapitation. Because they did the guy at the very beginning was like, the only way you can kill them as if you decapitate them. And it's like, oh, I wonder if that will come back later on. It's like, a plot point. And then yeah, that was the end of the movie we had, we have experienced, The Vampire Lovers. JAZZA: Uh-hmm, uh-hmm. Rowan did you [53:36], how how was this, how was this experience for you? Because obviously this isn't what you wanted. You wanted quote unquote, "real horror". ROWAN: So here's the thing. JAZZA: Mmm, go! ROWAN: I will admit, when we were coming up with these movies, and we and you decided that we were going to watch The Vampire Lovers, I was worried. JAZZA: Can I just say, I rolled a dice when decided this. ROWAN: Yeah, you did annoyingly. JAZZA: So it wasn't me that decided it was the dice. ROWAN: The dice, it was the thing. I would admit, the time I was a bit like, disappointed because I like, no that, I don't know if I'm that interested in this or whatever. But then I did watch the movie. And I agree with my initial assessment, I was so bored. This was such a boring movie. JAZZA: I I couldn't disagree with you more. ROWAN: Ohhh, God. JAZZA: I loved it, I loved it so much. ROWAN: I've could have predicted that though. I feel like we've had, we've disagreed on movies before in this podcast. And I think it's just you enjoy trash. JAZZA: This isn't, no no-- ROWAN: Like, and not that that's not even meant to be me. Like, like, taking a dig at you. I'm like you genuinely do appreciate sort of like campy, trashy, like low budget stuff. I think more than I do. JAZZA: Yes. Yeah. No, I'm with you. That is my vibe. That is my my modus operandi. But also I will say, all the way through, I was just fascinated that a movie like this was out in 1970. And I was also just captivated by all of the women. Either Ingrid Pitt, really does carry this full movie, she was absolutely phenomenal throughout the whole thing. But then every single woman is just absolutely stunning. And I don't understand why they're hanging around with all of these mediocre men. I wanted it to just be the women living their cortical fantasy. And I was so sucked in to their beauty and like some of their sexy flirting. I was super into The Governess, and all of that shit. I genuinely was hooked to this movie. I I really enjoyed the ride, I thought it was great. I will say some of that is based on kind of like, oh, isn't this an interesting depiction of like, the end of the height of the Hammer Horror Movement, and of the type of movie that was out at the time and stuff like that. ROWAN: What a nerd. JAZZA: But I have a--I had a really nice time, I'd recommend it. ROWAN: Yeah, I also I guess it appreciated it on that more intellectual level of like, mmm, this is I was I was like, at the very least, there's stuff that we can say about it. In the same way as I did predict this is what was going to happen. That like when you do an experiment in science class, really, I just keep doing high school metaphors. And it's not even on purpose. And when you do an experiment in science class, and it goes horribly wrong, and all of your results are wrong. You're like, well, at least I have something to write in my evaluation, even if the results and the conclusion of the terrible. I'll have, I'll basically just be able to, like, absolutely destroyed myself by being like me from 10 minutes ago, when I did this experiment is ridiculous, and doesn't know what she was doing and absolute fool. Or here all the things she did wrong. JAZZA: And you're and you'll get really good marks for being reflective. ROWAN: Yeah, exactly. You really reflective. And I kind of feel like this is the vibe of like, well, I don't enjoy it. But there's a lot we can say about it. So I guess this is the section where we talk about a little bit more context specific around Queer Movies, lesbian vampires, they're a thing. So this is not, this very much was part of a tradition. Like you talked about Carmilla before. And this is a tradition that has very much been with us for a long time, for a number of reasons. So one, as we talked about before, the vampire genre ties in a lot to sex and sexuality. And it only makes sense that if you're going to talk about perversion and sexuality that lesbians come up, you know, it's a it's just how we do. So I think also the fact that there is a, there is a riskier a danger, and alert sexuality element of vampires. And so if you're going to pick a sexuality to titillate the assumed to be male audience. With a bit of taboo, with a bit of danger, with a lot of titties, the lesbians will do it for you. So this is very much yeah, old, old trope, which has continued on through the decades. And this was absolutely no exception and actually was like a very noted example of it that a lot of people will talk about. I think it was very interesting that, when you look at the Wikipedia article for this movie, it gives you, often Wikipedia articles will tell you like what the rotten score is with critics. JAZZA: Uhm. ROWAN: And the note that they've made of it being certified rotten. I looked at the citation, and it was from 2013. It is now absolutely not certified rotten, the critic score is 71. And the audience score is 60. So it kind of has gotten more critical clout as a cult classic, than sort of a good movie at the time getting good reviews. It's very much had basically the reaction that we sort of had to at of, there is something about the context of it and something about its sort of cult classic status, which has, I think, elevate it in in subsequent reviews. JAZZA: Is it, I'm sensing a mirroring of what we saw with Jennifer's Body-- ROWAN: Hmm. JAZZA: --a little bit. ROWAN: You are not wrong, you're absolutely not wrong. There is this idea of the as I kind of mentioned earlier, corrupting lesbian force, right? So you would often have not just in like supernatural ways in in more realistic dramas around these decades, especially within the Hays Code or around it, of the experienced, maybe older sexual lesbian, and the young innocent virgin who didn't really understand what was going on and couldn't be blamed and was sucked in but just needed to be kind of taken out of this woman's [59:23] and given to a nice good man and that would kind of cheer her like this very much is something that is a big, big part of the conceptualization people had of lesbians of what what that relationship looks like. And I think queer people in general was like, the predator, right? So you had a lot of in our history, we have a lot of stuff where, you know, queer people shouldn't be teachers because they shouldn't be around young people. Ridiculous, obviously. And then more recently, we have the sort of trans bathroom panic stuff around the idea that old trans people shouldn't be trusted with our children in bathrooms like just completely ridiculous. But absolutely ties into this idea of like the evil lesbian trope, which plays out so much, over over time, over over this genre. And if you're being interpreting it in maybe a little bit more of a generous way, or if you wanted to subvert it, then you might look at how becoming a vampire is sort of as a symbol of no longer being tied to sort of puritanical ideas of sex and sexuality. And it being a very freeing experience and that that kind of tying into queerness like, I definitely think there's room for that interpretation. In like more modern explorations of lesbian vampires. I'd be really interested to see stuff like that. But yeah, there's a 1936 film Dracula's Daughter. JAZZA: Yeah. ROWAN:
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