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North Carolina writer and historian Daniel S. Pierce discusses growing up in West Asheville and spending his life in Western North Carolina. Join The New York Times best-selling author and North Carolina native Wiley Cash as he highlights great writers across the state and their work each month. Listen in on conversations between Cash and his author friends as they discuss how North Carolina inspires them on the Our State Book Club podcast.

Send us a textWhat if the unexpected storm of the century could teach us about resilience and community strength? Join us for an extraordinary conversation with Russ Towers, the inspiring co-founder of Second Gear, as he recounts the tumultuous journey of his Asheville-based outdoor gear and consignment shop. From humble beginnings in West Asheville to a major expansion in the River Arts District, Second Gear thrived on blending new and used outdoor equipment. But when Hurricane Helene wreaked havoc in 2024, it threatened everything Russ and his team had built. Discover how they turned disaster into determination, securing a new location and reopening just in time for the holiday season with the help of passionate community support.Russ shares the emotional aftermath of the hurricane, highlighting the extraordinary resilience and adaptability that emerged amidst chaos. With community allies like Explore Asheville and the Chamber of Commerce, the business found unexpected sources of strength and aid. Learn how the power of teamwork, strategic partnerships, and a successful GoFundMe campaign allowed them to navigate financial challenges and maintain operations. Russ's stories of optimism and perseverance underscore the unyielding spirit of small businesses and the essential role of community support in overcoming adversity.Amidst the trials, there were unexpected positives that arose from this challenge, including heartwarming tales of generosity and unity. Russ reflects on the profound impact of a simple wooden angel figurine, symbolizing hope and continuity. By embracing their community's support and rekindling their mission to provide affordable outdoor experiences, Second Gear has not only survived but thrived. Let our conversation remind you of the power of local exploration and the solidarity that can help businesses rise above adversity. Join us in celebrating the enduring spirit of resilience and the heart of a community-driven business.Mike AndressHost, Exploration Local828-551-9065mike@explorationlocal.comPodcast WebsiteFacebookInstagram: explorationlocal

Season 6: "The Amy Pike Show” Helene Recovery Series  Inside this Episode with Mitch Hampton: One of the many themes of our podcast is the act of human creation itself, in all of its myriad forms, and how humans always already are creating in specific circumstances.  Amy Pike, a jewelry maker, is one of the artists in our community who was affected by the Hurricane Helene in the Fall of 2024. While we hope to have other episodes in. connection with this event, every artist, as an individual human being, is unique and I loved my conversation with her as she sat in her studio discussing her life and careers, including a substantial  one in music  I can't think of a better guest really to inaugurate a series on how all of us cope in a most difficult circumstance and thrive as well as survive. More about Amy and her  beautiful works, here: Since I have trouble writing about myself, let me share the lovely artist bio written for me by friends at The Gallery of the Mountains. Amy Pike was born in New Orleans. She is the daughter of two artists – a potter and a photographer. Her early exposure to the creative world through artist studios and craft shows set the foundation for her artistic journey, which now includes jewelry-making. However, her initial venture was in the realm of music. Amy honed her singing skills, establishing herself as a notable vocalist in Atlanta's nightclub scene and beyond on the East Coast. Her musical repertoire included genres like Rockabilly, Swing, and Hot Club Jazz of the 30s and 40s. She has received accolades for both her singing and songwriting abilities, with her music gracing radio waves and even national commercials. She's truly multi-talented! Amy relocated to Asheville in 2004. While she still performs at venues around town, her creative interests have evolved. She began quilting and making art dolls, which led to the opening of a small fabric store in West Asheville. This new path introduced her to Haywood Community College's esteemed craft program. Here, Amy focused on metalsmithing, culminating in her earning a degree in Professional Craft Metals and Jewelry. Today, as a member of the Southern Highlands Craft Guild, Amy has her own home studio and teaches metalsmithing at Haywood Community College and in the River Arts District. She works with all kinds of metals and stones. Her work is imaginative, well-designed, and expertly crafted, encompassing pieces of all price points and possibilities. But as Amy insists, “… you don't need precious metals to make beautiful jewelry … all metals are precious if you treat them that way.” Links to Amy's gorgeous works: Website: https://amypikejewelry.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amypikejewelry/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/torch_and_twang/   #northcarolina #hurricane #tropicalstorm #buncombecounty #bass #song #swingmusic #swingdance #jewelry #ashevilletrong #asheville #nature #climatechange #music #country #jazz #riverartsdistrict #swannanoahriver #metalsmith #gems #geology 

Today's newscast includes stories about:Asheville opened two debris processing sites in West Asheville to handle waste from Hurricane Helene, causing concerns from nearby residents about health risks and environmental impacts.Asheville City Schools (ACS) is now focusing on using bottled water to reopen by Oct. 28, instead of drilling wells at every school as initially planned.U.S. Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg visited Asheville's River Arts District with Gov. Roy Cooper to see the damage from Hurricane Helene firsthand.An updated report from the North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services confirmed 125 deaths related to Hurricane Helene, with Buncombe County having the highest toll at 42 fatalities.Buncombe County announced changes to 16 of its 80 Election Day polling locations due to storm damage, approved under the Disaster Recovery Act.

Today's newscast includes stories about a plan to hire civilians to handle minor car crashes for the Asheville Police, two items on the agenda for Tuesday's county commission meeting, a conversation with Asheville Mayor Esther Manheimer, illicit use of West Asheville properties claimed through eminent domain and another chapter in the saga of HCA Healthcare and Mission Hospital.

Welcome to Twice 5 Miles Radio. I'm your host, James Navé. Today, I'm thrilled to introduce holistic health and agroecology educator Kara Kroger. Our paths crossed serendipitously at ODD's Café in West Asheville, where her passionate conversation about holistic health and agroecology immediately intrigued me. When I asked her to talk more about her podcast, we had a captivating conversation about the deep interconnections between gut health, soil health, and overall well-being. Kara brings a wealth of experience from her 18 years as a Certified Herbalist, Nutritionist, and Chef, running her own business, Kroeger Nutrition LLC. Her journey into agroecology began in Uvalde, Texas, where she helped restore degraded pastures. This experience opened her eyes to the profound connections between human health, soil health, and the essential microbes that bridge the two. In our conversation, Kara passionately discussed the importance of healthy soil for healthy humans and animals. She highlighted how most soils are unhealthy, leading to widespread gastrointestinal issues. This realization led her back to school to earn a degree in agriculture, merging her expertise in holistic nutrition with agroecology. Kara's current work focuses on regenerative agriculture and sustainable food systems. She aims to help food producers and consumers think in whole systems and advocates for a shift in how we approach land regeneration, body nourishment, and environmental impact. Her Balance Your Gut Program exemplifies her holistic approach, addressing the root causes of digestive distress and empowering individuals to take charge of their health. Join us as we dive into Kara's insights on the symbiotic relationship between our bodies and the land. Her holistic perspective offers a profoundly nourishing path to wellness, reminding us that proper health starts from the ground up. Enjoy the show!

LISTENERS: Have thoughts about this episode? Send them my way!Carolina Quiroga moved to Asheville only about a year ago, but she's already a distinctive storyteller here, blending folk tales and her own experiences from her native Colombia with newer stories born from observations of her newly adopted home.On July 11, she begins a residency of three weekly performances at Story Parlor in West Asheville. Today, we talk about straddling the line between her father's expectations and her own desires, her self-appointed mission to educate certain people in the Southeast about Latin Americans and the kinds of stories she's motivated to write and tell today.SPONSOR: Terpsicorps Theatre of Dance returns for one weekend only with the premiere of "Before the Scream." Performances are July 25-27 at the Wortham Center for the Performing Arts. Wake Up, Asheville! and ¡Despierta Asheville! (in Spanish) are new morning newscast podcasts that give you all the local news you need to know in under five minutes. Both are free to subscribe/follow wherever you get your podcasts!Support the Show.Support The Overlook by joining our Patreon campaign!Advertise your event on The Overlook.Instagram: AVLoverlook | Facebook: AVLoverlook | Twitter: AVLoverlookListen and Subscribe: All episodes of The OverlookThe Overlook theme song, "Maker's Song," comes courtesy of the Asheville band The Resonant Rogues.Podcast Asheville © 2023

"Clean For Who? Safe For Who?": Asheville Business Improvement District We sat down with three local activists to talk about the proposed Asheville Business Improvement District, a model of service provision using public funding to increase policing in downtown by an unelected and unaccountable body of largely business and property owners. For the hour, Grace, Madison and Elliot talk about attempts to ram the BID through public process, some of the businesses and individuals behind it, how bids have panned out in other cities around the country and what space there is left to oppose this further privatization of public space in Asheville. We didn't mention it here, but there have also been rumblings of the BID model, a version of which was fought and never funded in 2012, being applied to other parts of Asheville, for example West Asheville. You can find more information and ways to get involved with folks organizing against the Business Improvement District at AshevilleBID.com and on Instagram at @NoAVLBid. This is our show for the week of May 12th. As a quick note, there are a few acronyms frequently used in this conversation. One is RFP, which stands for Request for Proposals and is a process of contracting out an element of a project. Another acronym is ADA, in this case Asheville Downtown Association which is an independent pressure group made up of individuals, business and property owners. Not to be confused with the Asheville Downtown Commission, which was created by the City Council and contains appointed representatives from the ADA, city council, Buncombe County Board of Commissioners and few other community members including business owners. . ... . .. Featured Tracks: Asheville BID song (unknown artist) Moving Through The Streets (instrumental)

This episode of Big Blend Radio's 1st Tuesday "Adventures in Asheville" Show focuses on unique art, garden, and community experiences. Featured Guests:- Steve & Karen Wilson - Owners and innkeepers of The Lion & The Rose Bed & Breakfast, a stunning pink lady in the Montford Historic District. More: https://www.lion-rose.com/- DeWayne Barton - Founder of Hood Huggers International and Peace Gardens & Market, in the heart of West Asheville's Burton Street Community, a historically African American neighborhood established in the early 1900's. More: https://hoodhuggers.com/- Annie Katla Bennette - Co-owner of @artgardenavl an artist owned and operated Art Gallery & Plant Shop in Asheville's River Arts District. More: https://www.artgardenavl.com/Big Blend Radio's "Adventures in Asheville" Show airs every 1st Tuesday. Follow the show on YouTube: http://tinyurl.com/ycxwjkr7 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This episode of Big Blend Radio's 1st Tuesday "Adventures in Asheville" Show focuses on unique art, garden, and community experiences. Featured Guests:- Steve & Karen Wilson - Owners and innkeepers of The Lion & The Rose Bed & Breakfast, a stunning pink lady in the Montford Historic District. More: https://www.lion-rose.com/- DeWayne Barton - Founder of Hood Huggers International and Peace Gardens & Market, in the heart of West Asheville's Burton Street Community, a historically African American neighborhood established in the early 1900's. More: https://hoodhuggers.com/- Annie Katla Bennette - Co-owner of @artgardenavl an artist owned and operated Art Gallery & Plant Shop in Asheville's River Arts District. More: https://www.artgardenavl.com/Big Blend Radio's "Adventures in Asheville" Show airs every 1st Tuesday. Follow the show on YouTube: http://tinyurl.com/ycxwjkr7 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This episode of Big Blend Radio's 1st Tuesday "Adventures in Asheville" Show focuses on unique art, garden, and community experiences. Featured Guests:- Steve & Karen Wilson - Owners and innkeepers of The Lion & The Rose Bed & Breakfast, a stunning pink lady in the Montford Historic District. More: https://www.lion-rose.com/- DeWayne Barton - Founder of Hood Huggers International and Peace Gardens & Market, in the heart of West Asheville's Burton Street Community, a historically African American neighborhood established in the early 1900's. More: https://hoodhuggers.com/- Annie Katla Bennette - Co-owner of @artgardenavl an artist owned and operated Art Gallery & Plant Shop in Asheville's River Arts District. More: https://www.artgardenavl.com/Big Blend Radio's "Adventures in Asheville" Show airs every 1st Tuesday. Follow the show on YouTube: http://tinyurl.com/ycxwjkr7 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This episode of Big Blend Radio's 1st Tuesday "Adventures in Asheville" Show focuses on unique art, garden, and community experiences. Featured Guests: - Steve & Karen Wilson - Owners and innkeepers of The Lion & The Rose Bed & Breakfast, a stunning pink lady in the Montford Historic District. More: https://www.lion-rose.com/ - DeWayne Barton - Founder of Hood Huggers International and Peace Gardens & Market, in the heart of West Asheville's Burton Street Community, a historically African American neighborhood established in the early 1900's. More: https://hoodhuggers.com/ - Annie Katla Bennette - Co-owner of @artgardenavl an artist owned and operated Art Gallery & Plant Shop in Asheville's River Arts District. More: https://www.artgardenavl.com/ Big Blend Radio's "Adventures in Asheville" Show airs every 1st Tuesday. Follow the show on YouTube: http://tinyurl.com/ycxwjkr7 

Discover the captivating charm of Asheville as we traverse its real estate and community landscape! I'm Patrick, stepping in for Rowena Patton, and in this episode, I'll take you on a journey through the lush terrain of the Blue Ridge Parkway, introduce you to the noble Homes for Heroes program, and make sure you're up to date with the pulse-raising local sports scene. As the seasons shift, we'll chat about the community's embrace of spring and delve into the environmental initiatives that are reshaping our green spaces. If you're keen on sustainable living or looking to honor our heroes, this is an episode you won't want to miss.Navigating the real estate market can be as complex as it is exciting, but I've got the insider info to make it a breeze. We discuss the fine art of sprucing up homes with our Certified Pre-Owned program, ensuring they're irresistible to buyers. You'll gain insights into market trends that could impact your property investment, from being "house locked" to understanding the right pricing strategy in our shifting economy. Whether you're buying or selling, our trove of resources and real estate wisdom is at your disposal, helping you maximize value and make informed decisions.Stay tuned as we shine a spotlight on some of the most tantalizing real estate opportunities, from a vast expanse in Black Mountain to a coveted development location in downtown Asheville. Our Certified Pre-Owned experts program is not just local; its reach spans across states, providing top-notch service to sellers nationwide. Wrap up with a heartwarming success story that underscores the vibrant and diverse West Asheville community, and don't forget to keep those parking tickets in check! Join us for an episode brimming with community spirit and real estate savvy.

What do coffee roasting, Howard Thurman, and people with criminal records have in common? Listen to our conversation with Dustin Mailman, who leads Deep Time, a new ministry anchored at Trinity UMC in West Asheville, North Carolina. To find out more or purchase some coffee go to deeptimeavl.org. To contact Dustin Mailman directly, email dustin@trinitywavl.org.

In this episode of the Dads With Daughters podcast, host Christopher Lewis welcomes Sean Harvey, the Chief Compassion Officer and founder of the Warrior Compassion Men's Studio. Sean is passionate about helping men heal their wounds at a soul level to embrace the truth of who they are. He co-founded Project Compassion, a coalition of culture transformation, masculinity, and compassion experts, focusing on working with police departments and military services. Sean recently released his book, "Warrior Compassion: Unleashing the Healing Power of Men," which serves as a roadmap for men's soul healing and systems change. Sean shares his journey into men's work, a 10-year transformational path that started when he worked for Eileen Fisher, a women's fashion company. He discusses the impact of the company's feminine leadership on men and how it led him to engage in men's work. He also emphasizes the importance of a soul-level approach to healing and compassion, acknowledging that men need to heal unmet needs, limiting beliefs, and past traumas. Christopher and Sean talk about breaking down barriers related to words like "vulnerability" and "compassion," emphasizing the need for an environment where men feel safe to open up. Sean highlights the importance of self-compassion and loving oneself unconditionally as a catalyst for positive change within families. They discuss Sean's book and its guided journey, outlining various components of healing and transformation. The book is an on-ramp for men to engage in meaningful conversations and contribute to the transformation of society's oppressive systems. Sean encourages men to find a community where they can go deep and connect with others to combat loneliness and isolation. In their conversation, they explore how embracing deeper connections, intimacy, and love can lead to healing and transformation, allowing men to become more patient, reflective, and present fathers. They also stress the significance of having a community of men who check in on each other. This episode reinforces the importance of community, compassion, and self-discovery as essential steps for men on their journey to becoming the best dads they can be and healing themselves in the process. If you've enjoyed today's episode of the Dads With Daughters podcast, we invite you to check out the Fatherhood Insider. The Fatherhood Insider is the essential resource for any dad that wants to be the best dad that he can be. We know that no child comes with an instruction manual, and most are figuring it out as they go along. The Fatherhood Insider is full of valuable resources and information that will up your game on fatherhood. Through our extensive course library, interactive forum, step-by-step roadmaps, and more you will engage and learn with experts but more importantly with dads like you. So check it out today! TRANSCRIPT Christopher Lewis [00:00:06]: Welcome to Dads With Daughters. In this show, we spotlight dads, resources, and more to help you be the best dad you can be. Christopher Lewis [00:00:16]: Welcome back to the Dads with Daughters podcast where we bring you guests to be active participants in your daughters' lives, raising them to be strong independent women. Really excited to have you back again this week. Every week, you and I are on a journey together. We're figuring this out as we go along. There is no one right way to father, and there's not one right way to go through life as a man as well. And, You know, every week, we have opportunities to be able to talk about this, to be able to delve a little bit deeper into this, to see what each of us can do to be Engaged, present, and be a part of our family's lives. And I do that. We do that Through talking with other guests as well. Christopher Lewis [00:01:01]: And every week, I have the pleasure of bringing different people on with different Experiences coming from different walks of life that are able to provide you with Tools for your own toolbox that can help you to start thinking about things in different ways and potentially framing things in different ways that will help you To be better in all sense of the word. This week, we've got another great guest with us. Shawn Harvey is with us. And Sean is the chief compassion officer and founder of the Warrior Compassion Men's Studio And Symphonia Facilitator Studio. And he is actively involved in contributing to men's work communities around the globe And he's passionate about helping men heal their wounds at a soul level to begin to love the truth of who they are. Sean cofounded the, Project Compassion, a national coalition of culture transformation, masculinity, and compassion experts Developing a compassion centered system change model and consulting approach for police departments and federal law enforcement agencies, Military service security forces and defense. And most recently, he has a brand new book called Warrior Compassion, Unleashing the healing power of men that was just released, and this book really offers a road map for men's soul healing As a catalyst for systems change. I'm really excited to have him on to talk more about the journey that he's been on to help men around the world And about this brand new book, and I'm excited to have him here today. Christopher Lewis [00:02:46]: Sean, thanks so much for being here. Sean Harvey [00:02:48]: Thanks for having me. It's great to be here. Christopher Lewis [00:02:50]: It is my pleasure having you here today. Love what you're doing. Love the the the concept. Like, I wanna turn the clock back in time because You've done a lot of different things that have led you to where you are today. You and I you and I were talking about all the different degrees and all the different aspects and all the things you've done in your career. But I guess first and foremost, as I talked about the fact that that you are the chief compassion officer and founder of Warrior Compassion Men's studio. So talk to me about Warrior Compassion Men's Studio and this work that you've been doing over many years to Work with men at this, maybe I could even say visceral level of being able to talk to men About things that not every man wants to talk about. What led you to that, and what led you into working with men at this level? Sean Harvey [00:03:39]: Well, I, I appreciate the years you've added to the experience. This has really been a 10 year journey. So on my 40th birthday, I was I was As a college professor, I was working on Wall Street. And on my 40th birthday, I gave it all up because I lost my heart and soul in the job, and I resigned. And within 2 weeks, I went to work for a fashion company, Eileen Fisher. And it was there that my whole life turned upside down. It was like it basically Saying yes to that role changed the trajectory of my life and brought me to men's work. So actually working in a women's fashion company brought me to men, which Hey. Sean Harvey [00:04:16]: Hey. I think there were 3 pivotal moments in my experience at Eileen Fisher. 1, I just to get the job, I had gone through an 8 month interview process. And on my 1st day I started the job, my 2 bosses sat me down, and they said they said to me, Sean, we we wanna acknowledge that You have proven yourself in the interview process. We now want you to stop proving yourself and learn how to be who you actually are. When you interviewed with us, you showed us your heart, and you showed us your polish. We hired you for your heart, and we wanna see less of your polish. We don't care about your accomplishments. Sean Harvey [00:04:49]: We wanna see who you are. And so that really, I think, was permission to be able to start going on my own journey. Then they the company sent me to an art for 5 months in Canada To learn how to incorporate the arts in a creative facilitation, and so it's part of my work. And it was the 1st weekend that I was there that I really heard the call to work with men. And and I and I had gone to work for Eileen Fisher to not have to work with men ever again. So knowing that I was being called to work with men. I knew this was above my pay grade, and I knew this was on some sort of spiritual path, and it was more of a calling. And so I just started following the spiritual breadcrumbs. Sean Harvey [00:05:30]: And the third, I became the head of personal transformation and well-being for the company. And I started noticing in the company how men were being transformed by being in an organization, in a company that was 83% women, That was really built on feminine leadership and and the business model was based on feminine energy. And the men would say to me now we would talk about the ways we were changing, It would often start with either my wife said or my girlfriend said that I listen differently. I'm more patient. I stopped needing to do right all the time, and I started to be more curious. I started to express my emotions more freely. And they the men started noticing that they were tapping into their creativity differently, and they were solving problems in new ways. And last, and I think most important, they would tell me they felt more comfortable in their own skin because I think there's a freedom that was allowing men to just kinda come into who they really were. Sean Harvey [00:06:22]: And I said, you know, we need to kinda bottle this and take this out to more men as opposed to the 200 men that work in this company we only accounted for 17% of the organization. And so with that and and there were also a lot of spiritual teachers and guides, and there was A lot of spirituality at work. I knew if we're gonna do real work with men, that's gonna be healing work. It had to be done at the soul level, and that's what led me to seminary. And I went to seminary for the sole purpose of working with men and really creating a men's ministry of sorts, which is essentially what I'm doing. And 2 days after I said my vows, I received the next call, which was to work with police. So I was moving from New York to Asheville, North Carolina, From East Harlem, New York to West Asheville, North Carolina. And it was the chief of police of the Asheville Police Department. Sean Harvey [00:07:09]: There's a video that I received, and then it was Post George Floyd, there was a there was a Black Lives Matter protest. Police were called in. They destroyed a medic tent. They made national news, and this was a Call to reform the department and if if members of the community wanted to be part of police reform efforts. I emailed the next day because in seminar, they say when you hear the call, you say yes no matter what, even if you don't think you're qualified. But because of my credentials and my background, that led to a 1 on 1 with the chief of police. And In our conversation, he asked me 2 things. He had 2 asks. Sean Harvey [00:07:42]: Can I help him deepen the level of compassion for his officers? And can I create conversations between community members and officers that humanize each other for a new relationship going forward? And I said yes It's what I do. And that ask led to a group of us finding each other. And the, you know, members of the FBI, Someone on our team is the former head of the FBI National Academy at Quantico, military officers, culture experts, masculinity folks, And we all came together and formed this national initiative. And as I had started coming into the men's work and started to see that this was My area, you know, working with police, military, defense, and working with really, when I left Asheville moved to DC, and everyone that was reaching out to me, they were they were operating they were working in hypermasculine systems. So police, military, the NFL, all of these places that you could consider male dominated, traditionally masculine or hypermasculine, And really bringing this message of compassion into the fold. And I think at the at the root of of the healing, you call it soul healing, you call it compassionate healing, What is how to help men deepen their level of compassion? Christopher Lewis [00:08:59]: Let's talk about that a little bit because sometimes for men, words can be triggering When you talk about being vulnerable, being compassionate, using some words can throw up roadblocks in front of us As men. And some of that comes from the way that we grew up. Some of it's society. There's lots of different pieces. So Talk to me about in the work that you do, either 1 on 1 or with groups. How do you start to break down those barriers that those words potentially Can build so that you get to the inner core and the inner person underneath. Sean Harvey [00:09:43]: So I would agree that these words can be triggering, and I'm very intentional about the language I use. And because I believe Language can be used to reclaim and reframe. And so if it is trigger triggering or activating, I get curious about what that's about. But at the same time, I I think part of it, For me, that allows me to come into the spaces is is is a combination of energy, the energy I bring in, the invitation I offer, The approach that I take and my story. And I've been able to go to some of the Craziest communities or or or wildest communities where I would not expect to be received, and I'm able to be Dave, I'm able to be heard. In the probably 7 years 7 or 8 years I've been doing this, not 1 person has ever objected to what I'm saying. I've never gotten feed pushback on the message. And I think part of that is my approach. Sean Harvey [00:10:41]: I think part of that is that I speak to the yearning of men that they can't articulate. And I think it's something that men are often craving yearning yearning for. And then when given the right that they can hear, there's a receptivity. I found early on, it's not about the head on collision. It's the drive by. When I've gone to the direct jugular of the issue, That doesn't usually bring bring folks in. But if there's an opening that guys can see themselves in and I think where we are, especially because I I am a I am a queer, progressive New Yorker who works with conservatives and then the right wing echo chamber. And I work with From conservatives to white nationalists and far right extremists on their healing work. Sean Harvey [00:11:26]: And the common thing I hear is that they find me nonthreatening, and they feel safe opening up. So that becomes less about the words I use and more the environment I create For them to be able to feel safe enough to be able to start to explore. And I and I think the other pieces and I I think a lot of a lot of what I've seen And a lot of this type of work is someone showing you the way, which I think can we're like a man to constrict. This is the way to be a man. This is what manhood is. This is the definition of masculinity, and I don't do any of that. I come from a place of I mean, as a professor, I was always using Socratic method. I'm just Always asking the questions. Sean Harvey [00:12:07]: And I believe this is more of an inquiry that for each man to define The definitions for himself based on his own experience, and, also, this is really the work of helping him find his own truth, Not for him to acquiesce to a narrative or a truth that defines sin, where we've had enough folks Giving us in a society, giving us definitions of the should, of how we should be. And I am always saying, let's just break the script and say, alright. So Who are you? And those sorts of things, I think, just create openings for the conversation and also is has to do a lot of bridge building across the conservative and progressive divides. And coming in without an agenda has opened a lot of doors to be able to have those types of conversations. Christopher Lewis [00:12:56]: So one of the things I probably should have asked at the beginning is that you work on healing. Define for me what your definition of healing is and why the men that you're working with or many men may need some healing in their life. Sean Harvey [00:13:14]: When I was writing the book and we were coming up with the title, the book was written out of out of a program at Georgetown. And we talked about this, that For a lot of men, they're hearing the message that they have to change because something's broken. They're broken. Something's broken. And we, you know, we said, no. That's not what it is. Many men are wounded because we're human. The challenge is a lot of us are wounded, but we don't have access to the healing. Sean Harvey [00:13:40]: We don't have access to the ways of connecting, reaching out for self care. When we look at the rates of suicide addiction, violence, Depression, trauma. The numbers for men are are continue to rise and are typically Double or triple more than women. And at the same time, when we start to look at them for police and and military and vets, Those numbers even go higher. And so I think it's that the healing is and what I I define it in the book, healing our our unmet needs, Our limiting beliefs and our shadow. And the traumas we've experienced, the wounds that we faced from early in in our lives as well as Things that happen or the experiences we've had in our lives that we just keep going and and don't deal with it, don't dwell on it, And don't give attention to it and think that everything will be fine. And the reality is it carries with us. So my book really reflects my healing journey, and then I really dissected all the different components from my healing journey That I can be think could be helpful for men could be anything from connecting to nature, finding community with men, Learn relearning how to play to, you know, ex exploring psychedelics, healing the inner child wounds, healing the You know, the list goes on and on of what I incorporate into the book, but it's really just offering a road map of these are different ways you can think about Healing, and you can really be in an inquiry for yourself of what's gonna help you discover your own truth beyond the protective layers that you've created From conditioning and life in general. Christopher Lewis [00:15:20]: I know you work with all types of men. Some are fathers, some are not. For the men that you work with that Our fathers, how do you find that this work helps them to be Either more engaged or more present or more themselves within that family dynamic. Sean Harvey [00:15:40]: I think it's the first thing I said about How what men say how they were transformed Ryan Fisher. They become more patient. They're more patient with their kids. They're more patient with their wives or or partners. They listen differently with with a different level of of understanding. They have an ability to self manage their anger. They're more reflective. And, Ultimately, I believe this work is about deepening your own. Sean Harvey [00:16:03]: When we talk about deepening compassion, what what I'm really talking about 1st, starting with your own self compassion. And, ultimately, what this book is about is helping men learn to love in a new way from and, I just gave a sermon last week. It was called From Love With Conditions to Unconditional Love. And when you can move from an intellectualized version of love with conditions To a visceral experience of unconditional love, that's gonna have a ripple effect in your family and for everyone in your family. Christopher Lewis [00:16:31]: We've been talking about the the book that is out now, Warrior Compassion unleashing the healing power of men. And I know in that book, it is a guided journey. It's It's talking about your own experience, but also the work that you've been doing. As you are putting this book out in the world, I know how much time and effort it takes to write a book. I've I am an author. I know that it is a passion project for many, many hours and many, many weeks and months and sometimes years. So as you put this out into the world, what is your biggest hope in regard to those that are reading this and what you want them to take out of the book. Sean Harvey [00:17:13]: I see this as an on ramp for men to come into the bigger picture of How we're transforming society and that an organization development practitioner by training systems thinker. When I look at when I see the world that is crumbling before us and the systems that are crumbling around us, the oppressive systems, that this is an on ramp for more men to be part of the conversation. This is an on ramp For men and women and those beyond the binary to be able to come together in new ways and solve problems deeper and Solve problems in a new way from a level of deeper consciousness and collective wisdom. To get to that place of deeper consciousness and where love is at the root of How we reframe systems, being able to have more men engaged in that by doing their own work, doing their healing work. Because I think right now what we have is society of a lot of men in power who are holding on to power from a place of wounding, not a place of healing. And so, ultimately, that has been my driver for all of us and for us to be able to get to a place of moving from fear based control to love based liberation in the ways that our systems Some institutions operate in the world. Christopher Lewis [00:18:20]: One of the things that comes to mind as I think about this work is that for many men, it may be that They don't know where to start, and they know that something needs to change. And in the book, I'm sure that there are some specific steps. But If there's one thing that you would want men to start doing right now as they look at their own life, As they look at the lives that they have with people around them, what's one thing that they should start doing today or that they can Start implementing today within their own life that can help move them and move the needle in that positive direction. Sean Harvey [00:19:02]: Yeah. I always say that the 1st step, and it's the 1st step I outlined in the book, find a community of men where you feel safe going deep and that the the group of men can hold each other and Ugly crying in front of each other. Because I think the biggest you know, when we talked earlier, what's one of the the big healing needs? And I think One of the biggest epidemics in our society, in in Western culture in the US, specifically, is isolation and loneliness for men in general. You know, certain general's reports just came out. We have epidemic of loneliness in our country. And what I find is We're this is really moving from disconnection, isolation, loneliness to deeper connection, intimacy, and love. And one of the first places we can start is by coming into community with other men and breaking down these ideas that we are the only ones Suffering or struggling with x and giving voice to the suffering that men are experiencing in silence. And so by just Coming into community and having the deeper types of conversations, either joining a men's group or there's a lot up here. Sean Harvey [00:20:07]: Philadelphia, a lot of guys I know, we go hiking on a regular basis, and it's just an opportunity to connect, to share. And then everything else kind of can start to come in when you just start to name what's been unspoken in your own life and hear from others who are doing the same and realizing that You have more in common with more men than maybe you've imagined. Christopher Lewis [00:20:28]: Yeah. That's what one of the reasons that we have the fathering together communities that we have is to bring men together to allow for them to be vulnerable, to allow for them to make community. But I will say that there are many other groups that are out there that you can join that will give you that small group mentality where you don't won't get that in a Dads With Daughters by Father and Together Facebook community that has a 130,000 members. Right? But For some people, you know, being in a large group is a step 2. So finding your tribe, finding that group, finding the people around you that you're Comfortable with that you are willing to go deeper with is important because I think I know even personally that many Of the things that we talk about, many of the people that we we surround ourselves with are very surface level. Even as you get into being a father, That tends to be the case. You talk about the positive things. It's that Facebook effect, and you don't always go Deep and really talk about the things that you're struggling with. But if you have even 1 person, 2 people that you can rely on, that you can go to and and check yourself. It's so important. And it is such a Release for yourself to have someone outside of your family that you can talk to and say, you know, I don't know if I'm doing this right or not Because we don't have to. I've said this before, and I'll say it again. As a father, as a man, you don't have to do this alone. You can surround yourself with other people. That'll help you. Sean Harvey [00:22:07]: I wanna add to what you just said though, when you said for you as the man to check. I think the other part of it is when you find that other men are checking in on you. You I find that that's one of the most powerful things when you realize someone else is looking out for you and someone else is checking in and you're on someone else's radar when It can be very easy to feel like you're all alone. Christopher Lewis [00:22:28]: Such a true thing. I have done that with with people around me, and it's not people that specifically that I've said, hey. I'm gonna check-in on you, but it's just calling out and saying, hey. What's going on? How are you doing? And Every time I do it, I mean, it seems like it's appreciated, and you never know where the conversation's gonna go. But But I think that it's, it's a powerful thing that and it's a gift that you really give to others when you get when you do ask that and you Give them the opportunity to unload a little bit in that way. Well, Sean, I just wanna say thank you. Thank you for this, for what you're doing, for this Project that you're putting that you have started and this book that you've put out there. If people wanna find out more about you, about the book, Where's the best place for them to go? Sean Harvey [00:23:16]: I think the the easiest is go to my website, warrior compassion.com. If you wanna get the book, it's easy to find it on Amazon. So we're compassion, unleashing the healing power of men, and then you can you can find me through the website. You can you can get the book on Amazon, and everything that you'll need is there. Christopher Lewis [00:23:33]: Oh, Sean, thank you. Thank you for the work that you're doing, for engaging all of us men in these conversations, pushing us Out of our comfort zone a little bit here to think about things in different ways, to challenge us in many different ways, and I wish you all the best. Sean Harvey [00:23:49]: Alright. Thank you so much. It's great to be here. Christopher Lewis [00:23:51]: If you've enjoyed today's episode of the Dads with Daughters podcast, we invite you to check out the Fatherhood Insider. The fatherhood insider is the essential resource for any dad that wants to be the best dad that he can be. We know that no child Comes with an instruction manual, and most dads are figuring it out as they go along. And the fatherhood insider is full of resources and information That will up your game on fatherhood. Through our extensive course library, interactive forum, step by step road maps, And more. You will engage and learn with experts, but more importantly, dads like you. So check it out at fathering together ...org. If you are a father of a daughter and have not yet joined the Dads with Daughters Facebook community, there's a link in the notes today. Christopher Lewis [00:24:37]: Dads with Daughters is a program of fathering together. We look forward to having you back for another great guest next week, all geared to helping you raise strong, empowered daughters And be the best dad that you can be. Christopher Lewis [00:24:49]: We're all in the same boat, And it's full of tiny screaming passengers. We spend the time. We give the lessons. We make the meals. We buy them presents. Bring your AK because those kids are growing fast. The Time goes by just like a dynamite blast calling astronauts and firemen, carpenters,

As the Veils thin, now is the time to make love, to make beauty in devotion to the Otherworld. The Taurus Bloodmoon Eclipse is closing out a cycle that began in November 2021. Allow your healing to be deep and allow yourself the space that you need to make love and make beauty in this radical time.Receive Your Gift from Ra Ma: Weekly Venusian Love Notes and the 7 Keys to Cultivate Your Unique Daily PracticeCurrent Offerings to Nourish You in These Radical Times:Book Your 1:1 Divination Session with RaMa for crystalline clarityTranscend the Chaos with MA MAGICK: A Monthly Journey into Meditation, Star Medicine, God(dess) Consciousness and Elemental Wisdom. Join this astrologically based community of Wisdomkeepers now. SAMHAIN LUNAR ECLIPSE COUNCIL: This event is held in person in WAVL AND Online and is available for anyone in the world Saturday 28th October 2-6:30 pm EDT (will not be recorded)SAMHAIN COSMIC SOUND HEALING CEREMONY: Circle in honor of the High Holy Day of Samhain and the thinning of the Veils in deep meditation and a sound healing ceremony. Monday 30th October 8-9:30 pm EDT. This event is held online and will be recorded. SCORPIO DARK MOON WOMEN'S WISDOM COUNCIL: This event is held in person in West Asheville for women on Sunday 12th October 7-9 pm.How you may sustain the work:You are invited to leave a tip via this link: https://www.starsstonesandstories.com/supportVisit EarthSeed Temple Arts and Ra Ma's mystery school to learn moreAre you inspired by this podcast?Follow Star Seed Wisdom Council on our Youtube ChannelBe nourished with mystery school teachings, pilgrimages to sacred sites and by staying on the pulse of the cosmic weather at instagram.com/earthseedtempleartsIf you are enjoying the podcast, you are invited to pay it forward by leaving a review on the Itunes podcasting app. These reviews offer visibility for podcasts, therefore more will find Stars, Stones, and Stories because of your review.Do You Feel the Call to Activate the Earth's Chakras? Discover the details about future pilgrimages. . . email support@earthseedtemplearts.com to get on the VIP PILGRIMAGE LIST

In this episode we explore the themes around the Libra Ring of Fire Solar Eclipse. These Eclipses of October are twisting you, folding and bending your psyche, and simultaneously the psyche of the collective. The Magdalene Order is dedicated to the resurrection of consciousness throughout all time and all all ages and all spaces.Affirm: ‘I harmonize my heart with the rhythm of another'Current Offerings to Nourish You in These Radical Times:Book Your 1:1 Divination Session with RaMa for crystalline clarityTranscend the Chaos with MA MAGICK: A Monthly Journey into Meditation, Star Medicine, God(dess) Consciousness and Elemental Wisdom. Join this astrologically based community of Wisdomkeepers now. SAMHAIN LUNAR ECLIPSE COUNCIL: This event is held in person in WAVL AND Online and is available for anyone in the world Saturday 28th October 2-6:30 pm EDT (will not be recorded)SAMHAIN COSMIC SOUND HEALING CEREMONY: Circle in honor of the High Holy Day of Samhain and the thinning of the Veils in deep meditation and a sound healing ceremony. Monday 30th October 8-9:30 pm EDT. This event is held online and will be recorded. SCORPIO DARK MOON WOMEN'S WISDOM COUNCIL: This event is held in person in West Asheville for women on Sunday 12th October 7-9 pm.Receive Your Gift from Ra Ma: Weekly Venusian Love Notes and the 7 Keys to Cultivate Your Unique Daily PracticeHow you may sustain the work:You are invited to leave a tip via this link: https://www.starsstonesandstories.com/supportVisit EarthSeed Temple Arts and Ra Ma's mystery school to learn moreAre you inspired by this podcast?Follow Star Seed Wisdom Council on our Youtube ChannelBe nourished with mystery school teachings, pilgrimages to sacred sites and by staying on the pulse of the cosmic weather at instagram.com/earthseedtempleartsIf you are enjoying the podcast, you are invited to pay it forward by leaving a review on the Itunes podcasting app. These reviews offer visibility for podcasts, therefore more will find Stars, Stones, and Stories because of your review.Do You Feel the Call to Activate the Earth's Chakras? Discover the details...

This Aries Full Moon is waxing to merge with Chiron, the Rainbow Bridge and offering you an opportunity to work through another layer of great healing. In this episode you will learn about how the Eclipse Portal is now fully open over the next 6 weeks and ways you may prepare for this time of great change!Current Offerings to Nourish You in These Radical Times :::ECLIPSE EMPOWERMENT: Thrive amidst Transformation A 6 Day Mini Course begins Saturday 7th - Thursday 12th October 2023Book Your 1:1 Divination Session with RaMa for crystalline clarityTranscend the Chaos with MA MAGICK: A Monthly Journey into Meditation, Star Medicine, God(dess) Consciousness and Elemental Wisdom. Join this astrologically based community of Wisdomkeepers at this link. LIBRA DARK MOON WOMEN'S WISDOM COUNCIL: This event is held in person in West Asheville for women on Friday 13th October 7-9 pm.SOLAR ECLIPSE COUNCIL: This event is held in person in WAVL AND Online and is available for anyone in the world Saturday 14th October 11 am - 5 pm EDT (will not be recorded!)Receive Your Gift from Ra Ma: Weekly Venusian Love Notes and the 7 Keys to Cultivate Your Unique Daily PracticeHow you may sustain the work:You are invited to leave a tip via this link: https://www.starsstonesandstories.com/supportVisit EarthSeed Temple Arts and Ra Ma's mystery school to learn moreAre you inspired by this podcast?Follow Star Seed Wisdom Council on our Youtube ChannelBe nourished with mystery school teachings, pilgrimages to sacred sites and by staying on the pulse of the cosmic weather at instagram.com/earthseedtempleartsIf you are enjoying the podcast, you are invited to pay it forward by leaving a review on the Itunes podcasting app. These reviews offer visibility for podcasts, therefore more will find Stars, Stones, and Stories because of your review.Do You Feel the Call to Activate the Earth's Chakras? Discover the details about future pilgrimages. . . email support@earthseedtemplearts.com to get on the VIP PILGRIMAGE LIST

Welcome to this special 100th Anniversary Episode!Drop into this episode to receive insights about how you may work with September's Virgo New Moon and Mercury Direct. RaMa will also guide you through this sacred Equinox portal with ritual ideas so that you may celebrate this time of transition with your beloveds.Receive Your Gift from Ra Ma: Weekly Venusian Love Notes and the 7 Keys to Cultivate Your Unique Daily PracticeCurrent Offerings to Nourish You in These Radical Times:::Book Your 1:1 Divination Session with RaMa for crystalline clarityTranscend the Chaos with MA MAGICK: A Monthly Journey into Meditation, Star Medicine, God(dess) Consciousness and Elemental Wisdom. Join this astrologically based community of Wisdomkeepers at this link. EQUINOX OPPORTUNITY: Join Ra Ma at the 2023 Global Pyramid Network Conference 22-24 September in Chicago. This year's theme is Pyramid Secrets and Ra Ma will be presenting The Mystery of Pyramids as Portals for TimebendingARIES FULL MOON COSMIC SOUND BATH: This event welcomes you from anywhere in the world. RaMa will offer an astrological transmission of the Aries Full Moon energies, a guided meditation and then you may fully relax in the healing resonance of this sound bath. If you are unable to attend live, a recording will be sent out asap after the event.LIBRA DARK MOON WOMEN'S WISDOM COUNCIL: This event is held in person in West Asheville for women on Friday 13th October 7-9 pm.How you may sustain the work:You are invited to leave a tip via this link: https://www.starsstonesandstories.com/supportVisit EarthSeed Temple Arts and Ra Ma's mystery school to learn moreAre you inspired by this podcast?Follow Star Seed Wisdom Council on our Youtube ChannelBe nourished with mystery school teachings, pilgrimages to sacred sites and by staying on the pulse of the cosmic weather at instagram.com/earthseedtempleartsIf you are enjoying the podcast, you are invited to pay it forward by leaving a review on the Itunes podcasting app. These reviews offer visibility for podcasts, therefore more will find Stars, Stones, and Stories because of your review.Do You Feel the Call to Activate the Earth's...

Emma Garau is a trans woman that has been able to face difficult challenges in discovering her identity, find confidence, and maintain her integrity in no small part thanks to the art of drumming. She is an artist that expresses the complex emotions and trials of life through different musical styles, namely punk and jazz. I highly recommend checking out her live performances in her band, ¿WATCHES?  https://watchestheband.com/Through my conversation with Emma I learn about..Drumming as a means to process big life events and express abstract emotion Artist Milford Graves https://www.milfordgraves.com/Drummer Dave King of The Bad Plus https://www.thebadplus.com/Emma's intention and plan to maintain her sanity and integrity on social mediahttps://www.instagram.com/em_garau/?hl=enWe also touch on this study:https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/brb3.1490I saw ¿WATCHES? play live at Fleetwood's in West Asheville. https://fleetwoodschapel.com/You can also check her and her band out at the upcoming Women To The Front Festival September 10-16, 2023. She should be playing on Saturday 9/16, but check the website for any changes. https://womentothefrontmusicfestival.com/

Josh MacPhee & Alec Dunn on Signal 08 First up, Ian interviews Josh MacPhee and Alec Dunn, co-editors of Signal, about the recently published eighth volume of the Journal of International Political Graphics and Culture. They discuss their motivations and experiences producing Signal for over a decade, designing print media in the digital age, and their work as part of Justseeds Artists' Cooperative, long-running, geographically dispersed artist collective dedicated to the production of radical art for grassroots movements. [ 00:05:33 - 00:44:37] Mwalimu Shakur on Abolition, Organizing and Education Then, you'll hear most of a conversation with imprisoned New Afrikan revolutionary socialist, Mwalimu Shakur currently incarcerated in Corcoran Prison in CA, about abolition, political education and the hunger strikes of 2013 in which he participated. [00:45:14 - 01:12:37] Mwalimu's Instagram Past interview with Mwalimu Mwalimu's writing on KnockLA and SFBayView (1, 2) Interviews about CA Hunger Strikes in 2013 with Ed Mead of CA Prison Focus (1, 2) You can get in touch with Mwalimu: Terrence White #AG8738 CSP Corcoran PO Box 3461 Corcoran, CA 93212 Sean Swain Sean's segment [01:12:40 - 01:20:01] Announcements BRABC Letter Writing Join Blue Ridge ABC on the first Sunday of each month, next up being August 6th from 3-5pm at the NEW Firestorm spot at 1022 Haywood Road, in West Asheville. And swing by our table at the ACABookfair August 12-13 at Different Wrld to get involved, get a poster for the upcoming International Week of Solidarity with Anarchist Prisoners and check out the other awesome stuff. ACABookfair If you're nearby, consider a visit to the 3 days of event around the Another Carolina Anarchist Bookfair in Asheville from August 11-13 with tons of speakers, publishers, music and more. https://acabookfair.noblogs.org Dr. Mutulu Shakur, ¡Presenté! New Afrikan revolutionary elder, accupuncturist and revolutionary Dr. Mutulu Shakur joined the ancestors at the age of 72. He was released by the state after 36 years in prison, organizing, healing, educating and inspiring despite having developed a virulent bone cancer. Dr. Shakur spent the last year on this planet continuing his work, speaking and attending events, surrounded by loved ones. Rest in power. Ruchell "Cinque" Magee Will Be free! Politicized prisoner and jailhouse lawyer, Ruchell “Cinque” Magee, is slated to be released after 67 years in the California prison system. Cinque is 84 years old, arrested on an indeterminate sentence around a marijuana charge from 1963, he joined the attempted jailbreak during the Marin County Courthouse shootout in which Jonathan Jackson attempted to free William A. Christmas and James McClain. Ruchell was the sole survivor and was a co-defendant of Angela Davis until their cases were split. There is a fundraiser to support Cinque's post-release needs as an elder: https://fundrazr.com/82E6S2 Rashid's Treatment Resumes, Thanks To Support! As an update to past announcements from Kevin “Rashid” Johnson of the Revolutionary Intercommunal Black Panther Party, the public pressure from calls & emails apparently had the desired results and as of a few days ago he was receiving the medical treatment he needs for his prostate cancer, though he hasn't received all of his papers so he can continue to pursue his lawsuits against the Virginia DOC since they were confiscated by prisoncrats, but he's super thankful for public engagement to defend his health. More updates on his case can be found at rashidmod.com . ... . .. Featured Tracks: Don't Play Around (Instrumental) by DJ Nu-Mark from Broken Sunlight Series 6 Black Hole by The Bulletproof Space Travelers from Urban Revolutions - The Future Primitive Sound Collective

Align your consciousness with the power of the number 7 and the Sirius Stargate on this day of the 7th of the seventh month of this seven year. You will also receive an astrological reflective interpretation of the past month and what is coming up in the cosmic weather for this next week. Find clarity within the chaos.Offerings to Nourish You in These Radical TimesCancer Dark Moon Women's Wisdom in West Asheville 16 JulyWe are the Magdalenes weekend retreat in West Asheville 22-23 July8:8 Lion's Gate 8:8 Global Ceremonial Teaching (recording available)Ma Magick Join in this Moonthly Membership Lunar Council for Wisdomkeepers hereBook Your 1:1 Divination Session with Ra Ma for crystalline clarityReceive Your Gift from Ra Ma: Weekly Venusian Love Notes and the 7 Keys to Cultivate Your Unique Daily PracticeHow you may sustain the work:Visit EarthSeed Temple Arts and Ra Ma's mystery school to learn moreYou are invited to leave a tip via this link: https://www.starsstonesandstories.com/supportAre you inspired by this podcast?Let's connect. Join our complimentary Stars, Stones and Stories community at this link to weave with other listeners all over the Earth.Follow Star Seed Wisdom Council on our Youtube ChannelStay on the pulse of our current cosmic weather at instagram.com/starsstonesandstoriesBe nourished with mystery school teaching, sacred sites and astrology by following instagram.com/earthseedtempleartsIf you are enjoying the podcast, you are invited to pay it forward by leaving a review on the Itunes podcasting app. These reviews offer visibility for podcasts, therefore more will find Stars, Stones, and Stories because of your review.Do You Feel the Call to Activate the Earth's Chakras? Discover the details about future pilgrimages. . . email support@earthseedtemplearts.com

  Have you ever received a tarot reading? This week's episode of The Metaphysical Mysteries Podcast features Kelly Palmatier, Tarot Card Reader And Psychic Medium. Kelly Palmatier is a full-time, professional psychic medium in Asheville, North Carolina. She has been involved in psychic energy work for over 30 years and bringing people inner peace and inspiration through psychic readings and mediumship readings.     Kelly's Background As a Psychic and an Empath   Kelly has been a psychic her whole life and has been developing her skills since then. She has even studied parapsychology in England at the University of Kent in Canterbury. Kelly has embraced her calling as an Empath – a metaphysical term for someone who feels the emotions of others. She is also clairvoyant (psychically seeing images) clairaudient (hearing messages) clairalient (so I psychically smell things) clairsentient, (physically feel the energy); and claircognizant, (just knowing things.)   While meditating one day, Kelly asked the Universe for a sign – what she should do to help others. The universe answered back and that is how she got on the path of being a tarot card reader and psychic medium. In addition to being an empath, Kelly also considers herself to be a lightworker. Lightworkers have a special mission in the world. That inspired her to name her company - Channeling White Light.     Kelly Palmatier Tarot Card Reader And Psychic Medium   Kelly offers many metaphysical services including Channeling/Mediumship Readings to connect with loved ones who have crossed over, Psychic Readings using Tarot cards and tuning in directly to the energy, Group Mediumship Readings, Psychic Business Consulting, and Psychic Development Mentorship Services.   Additionally, Kelly has a service where she collaborates with other psychics which allows you to ask one question and get it answered by up to ten different psychics! This is great when you really want clarity on a subject, and you want a scientific spin by seeing what percentage of psychics feel the same nuances.   In-Person and Remote Sessions   Kelly is currently located in lovely Asheville, NC. Clients can choose from either phone/video call sessions (phone, FaceTime, Skype, or Zoom) or in-person sessions in her office and reading room in West Asheville, NC. To schedule a session, visit Kelly's website.   Cheap Psychic Readings and Free Psychic Readings   For those on a budget, Kelly offers a sliding scale for both psychic readings and mediumship readings. Clients are able to decide how much they are able to pay based on their budget and the value they may receive. If you can't afford a reading but are in need of true psychic guidance, visit her free readings page to register for a monthly drawing. Additionally, keep an eye out for Facebook Live or other group events. Occasionally, Kelly give away readings for free or as a fundraiser for a good cause.     Kelly Palmatier Contact and Social Media   Website: https://www.channelingwhitelight.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/channelingwhitelight/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/channelingwhite YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channelingwhitelight   About The Metaphysical Mysteries Podcast   The Metaphysical Mysteries Podcast is the “go-to” place for everything metaphysical. We feature guests such as researchers, doctors, authors, scientists, and practitioners. Each episode also offers high-quality research about metaphysical topics. Interested in becoming a featured guest on The Metaphysical Mysteries Podcast? Register to become a guest here!

Vicki Meath, and her team at Just Economics, are working to build an economy in Western North Carolina that works better for everyone. In this episode, we learn about the creative and practical steps they are taking toward economic justice.  If you are working on economic justice, equity, or inclusion in a smaller city or rural community, this episode is for you. If you're part of a community where state and local policies aren't friendly to economic justice, inclusion, or equity, this episode is also for you. Join us as we learn how Just Economics is leading and empowering change in the communities they serve.Full Transcript HERE.Learn more about Just Economics.Learn more about Tompkins County Workers' Center.Learn about the Center for the Study of Economic Mobility at Winston-Salem State University.Vicki's Bio:Vicki comes to Just Economics with a background in community organizing. She has worked on environmental, social, and economic justice issues ranging from responsible oil and gas drilling to protecting health and human services in the Ohio state budget. In 2006, Vicki worked with Let Justice Roll and Cleveland Jobs with Justice on the successful campaign to raise the state minimum wage and continued to work with Jobs with Justice on the Cuyahoga County Living Wage Campaign and other worker justice issues. Vicki has a strong commitment to and passion for economic justice work. Vicki has a teenage daughter and has lived in the Asheville area since 2007. Vicki has been involved in a variety of community activities and lives in West Asheville. 

In our continuing audio residency with Story Parlor, this week's episode spotlights the West Asheville venue's Story/Arts Residency program. Past artists-in-residence Gina Cornejo and Meta Commerse share a bit about their experiences, along with what they created for their residencies.Support The Overlook by joining our Patreon campaign!Advertise your event on The Overlook.Instagram: AVLoverlook | Facebook: AVLoverlook | Twitter: AVLoverlookListen and Subscribe: All episodes of The OverlookThe Overlook theme song, "Maker's Song," comes courtesy of the Asheville band The Resonant Rogues.Podcast Asheville © 2023

Stephanie Monson Dahl, Urban Design and Place Strategies Manager for the City of Asheville, talks with Matt Peiken about the reimagining of Pack Square, keeping West Asheville pedestrian-friendly, the challenges of bringing North Merrimon Avenue into the 21st Century and using creative zoning to stem the effects of mushrooming development. Support The Overlook by joining our Patreon campaign!Advertise your event on The Overlook.Instagram: AVLoverlook | Facebook: AVLoverlook | Twitter: AVLoverlookListen and Subscribe: All episodes of The OverlookThe Overlook theme song, "Maker's Song," comes courtesy of the Asheville band The Resonant Rogues.Podcast Asheville © 2023

Our Friday audio residency from the stage of Story Parlor, in West Asheville, continues honoring Black History Month with performances from Kelly Morris, Mildred Barya and Jasmin Morrell.  Support The Overlook by joining our Patreon campaign!Advertise your event on The Overlook.Instagram: AVLoverlook | Facebook: AVLoverlook | Twitter: AVLoverlookListen and Subscribe: All episodes of The OverlookThe Overlook theme song, "Maker's Song," comes courtesy of the Asheville band The Resonant Rogues.Podcast Asheville © 2023

The Overlook is devoting Friday episodes to the Asheville community in the form of "audio residencies." Our first block of Friday episodes are curated by Erin Hallagan Clare, the founding director of Story Parlor. It's a West Asheville that opened in 2022 and has quickly become a go-to hub for storytelling in a variety of stripes. In this first episode of the residency, Clare spotlights poet Glenis Redmond in a performance from the Story Parlor stage in December 2022.Stay tuned to the end of the episode to find out how to apply for an audio residency with The Overlook.Support The Overlook by joining our Patreon campaign!Advertise your event on The Overlook.Instagram: AVLoverlook | Facebook: AVLoverlook | Twitter: AVLoverlookListen and Subscribe: All episodes of The OverlookThe Overlook theme song, "Maker's Song," comes courtesy of the Asheville band The Resonant Rogues.Podcast Asheville © 2023

We're happy to share Scott's interview with Rhiannon Firth about her recent book, Disaster Anarchy: Mutual Aid and Radical Action. You can get the book at a discount using the code “firth30”, on the Pluto Books website or you can get a digital read for free, linked in the shownotes. Rhiannon's: facebook; twitter; email. Transcript PDF (Unimposed) – pending Zine (Imposed PDF) – pending Next Week… Next week, we'll likely share our recent chat with Tom Wetzel on his anarcho-syndicalist / libertarian socialist tome Overcoming Capitailsm (AK Press, 2022). Patreon followers will get early access to this chat as they very occasionally do to author interviews, alongside other gifts and the satisfaction of supporting our transcription efforts. Want in but don't want to have a Patreon? Check out tfsr.wtf/Support for merch and other methods to donate and help keep our transcription and operating costs afloat. Thanks! Announcements Sanctuary Park Defendants Statement A Statement from the Aston Park Defendants in Response to APD's January 11th Press Release -January 14th, 2023: "On Wednesday, January 11th, 2023, Asheville Police Department (APD) issued a widely circulated press release stating that 120,000 lbs of “trash” were removed from two “vacant” homeless encampments in West Asheville. We believe that this press release is part of an ongoing misinformation campaign by the City of Asheville to justify evicting encampments, fracturing communities of care, and broadly criminalizing unsheltered homelessness without creating real solutions. APD claims that the two camps were vacant, but admits that over the course of two weeks, they forced the people living there to leave. “Services” were offered to the people displaced, but were limited to rides, sharing information about local shelters, and helping people register for a housing list with a months-to-years long wait for placement. We question the utility of these services to people who are chronically homeless and unsheltered. According to the city of Asheville's 2022 Point in Time count, 232 (36%) of people without housing were unsheltered, defined as “sleeping outside or in other locations not suitable for human habitation.” These people are criminalized with trespassing laws and ordinances restricting camping. Yet, limited capacity and other barriers to shelter access often leave people with no other choices. When people camp together in larger groups, they are able to share resources and build community. Providing these camps with basic waste disposal and sanitation services would eliminate the health risks used to justify their removal. Instead, people camping are blamed for these conditions, then forced to relocate with only what they can carry. Tents, shelters, and other necessities must be left behind, and are relabeled “trash.” APD, city government and anti–homeless businesses use this, coupled with overblown and misleading claims about violent crime in camps, as justification for displacing unsheltered people again and again. Since the 11th, APD evicted two more camps in East Asheville, just ahead of a cold front bringing ice and snow. Camp evictions in February and December of 2021 under similar conditions sparked widespread public outrage. Despite this, conditions for people living unsheltered have mostly remained unchanged. Misinformation about “litter” and crime, alongside unfulfilled promises of long-term solutions, have redirected public attention from ongoing violence. Not only are camp sweeps violent, they are an ineffective and expensive strategy for managing unsheltered homelessness. There are more humane, longer-term and lower-cost alternatives. More on this, along with other updates, coming soon. In the meantime, check out our website, avlsolidarity.noblogs.org, for more information including links to sources cited for this statement. Please share and spread the word! Solidarity & Love, The Aston Park Defendants" Asheville Mutual Aid Market If you're in the Asheville area, on Saturday, January 28th there'll be a Mutual Aid Market at the Odd bar on Haywood Ave in west Asheville from 12-4pm including free brake light clinic by the Asheville Socialist Rifle Association chapter. Bring gently used clothing, kitchenware, fitness gear, tools, books and other stuff to share and take what you'd like. Oye Collective is hosting BIPOC artists and musicians who'll have stuff on offer for donation, and donations will be collected for Asheville For Justice. Check the AFJ instagram for more info, the announcement in English and Spanish and info on accessibility. Phone Zap, Tuesday for SeaTac detainees There's going to be a prisoner organized phone zap around conditions at SeaTac federal detention center on Tuesday. Inmates at SeaTac Detention Center are facing cruel and illegal conditions, without adequate access to medical care, food, and communication. You're invited to join a phone zap on Tuesday Jan 17, from 8am-2pm, calling once or as many times as you can, asking that the Associate Warden's Office take immediate steps to correct the situation. Script and details in our show notes Here is a script you can use: "I'm calling on behalf of inmates at SeaTac Federal Detention Center, asking for the leadership to address the cruel and *illegal* conditions at the facility. Without a long-term warden and the presence of leadership at the lunch line, it's been difficult for inmates to directly address concerns themselves. Because you've silenced them, I'm calling on their behalf to let you know that many people across the nation are watching SeaTac right now. Please take immediate steps to improve conditions for every inmate at SeaTec by providing: A minimum of 2,000 calories/day A doctor on-site at the facility Immediate access to prescription medications Immediate access to dental care Increased email access A warden assigned to the facility" . ... . .. Featured Tracks: Cavern by Liquid Liquid from Liquid Liquid Discography (1981-1984)

Merriam-Webster's Word of the Day for October 22, 2022 is: abide • uh-BYDE • verb Abide is often used in negative constructions, such as “can't abide,” to say that someone cannot tolerate or accept something. Abide can also mean “to accept without objection” and “to remain or continue.” // I just can't abide such blatant dishonesty. // Residents of the dorm agree to abide by the dorm's rules. See the entry > Examples: “When it comes to the quality of recording, mixing and mastering, the industry standard is quite flexible. ‘Mostly it comes down to taste and finding someone with the skill set to achieve a desired outcome,' says Adam McDaniel, co-owner of Drop of Sun Studios in West Asheville. ... ‘But the subjective qualities of tone and fidelity are dictated by the songs and the artists' preference. Personally, I can't abide an attitude of ‘that's good enough.' If something can be better, then let's go further.'” — Edwin Arnaudin, Mountain Xpress (Asheville, North Carolina), 10 Aug. 2022 Did you know? Abide has abided in the English language since before the 12th century, picking up along the way several meanings and inflections that are now rare or no longer in use. For instance, one of abide's former meanings was “to stop” and its former past participle was abidden (whereas we now use abided or abode). Today, abide often turns up in the phrase “can't abide” to say that someone cannot tolerate or accept something. The expression abide by, which means “to accept and be guided by (something),” is also common. Related terms include abiding, meaning “continuing for a long time” or “not changing” (as in “an abiding friendship”), abidance (“continuance” or “the act or process of doing what you have been asked or ordered to do”), and abode (“the place where someone lives”).

Greg Hill is a Certified Cicerone and the Production Director at Urban Orchard Cider, a family-owned and operated craft cider producer based in Asheville, NC. Since it's launch in 2015 at the Craft Beer Rising event, the company has gained multiple awards and recognition including taking First Place as the Best Place to Drink Cider in America in 2017 by Food & Wine Magazine. In addition to crafting some of the best tasting cider in the country, the company frequently holds events at their West Asheville and new South Slope locations. Greg joins me today to discuss Urban Orchard's newest location and the type of cider beverages they currently have on tap. We discuss their unique dry ciders and their process for using different yeast varieties to achieve various flavor profiles unattainable by other cider producers. We also discuss their carbonation process and how they achieve their champagne-like bubbles, as well as their new flavors such as the blueberry-flavored Blue Monday and jalapeno-infused Hopaleno.   This week on Consuming the Craft: ●     Urban Orchard's newest location and the variety of beverages currently on tap.●     How they make their blueberry lager.●     Their unique dry ciders and how they use different varieties of yeast to achieve different flavor profiles.●     What is flocculation?●     Their carbonation process and how they achieve champagne-like bubbles.●     Why he enjoys teaching at CBI.●     New flavors the Urban Orchard Cider is currently working on.

The women's trio performs their entire debut album, "Solid 8," at a record-release show Friday at Fleetwood's in West Asheville.

Guest: DAN PIERCEIn this episode, you'll learn about moonshine history, how NASCAR emerged from the Prohibition Era and how moonshine runners' lives have an impact on today's world. Joseph is joined by our special guest Dan Pierce, he is a renowned author, columnist, and consultant. He earned degrees from WCU, the University of Alabama, and the University of Tennessee before becoming a history professor at UNC Asheville. Dan is an avid outdoorsman, passionate about NASCAR, moonshine history, Appalachian culture, environmental issues, and race relations. He lives with his family in Black Mountain, N.C. He joins us to talk about Tar Heel Lightning: How Secret Stills and Fast cars Made N.C. the Moonshine Capital of the World, NASCAR, and more.Don't miss this out!Tune in for this fun conversation at TalkRadio.nyc or watch the Facebook Livestream by Clicking Here.SHOW NOTESSEGMENT 1Pierce grew up in West Asheville, and was born in Arkansas but moved at the age of 3. Father moved to pastor the Grace Baptist Church. Joseph discusses how he was born and grew up in Haywood County which is right next to Asheville but relocated to NYC and stayed for 27 years. Eventually, he moved back to Asheville because it's a great place. Joseph and Pierce discuss the nostalgia of their childhoods in Asheville comparing it to how it is currently. They discuss good changes such as the dining expansion and interesting changes such as seeing more wildlife up close to their homes.SEGMENT 2When asked about his dedication to being a teacher and writer Pierce responds by saying he arrived at wanting to be a teacher in his late teens. He liked kids as he ran a park and majored in education. Ironically he recalls himself as an awful student but had a widowed sixth-grade teacher who influenced him. She took him and another boy over the summer to Europe, and her kindness encouraged him to be an influential teacher as well. After becoming a coach in Nashville he ended up going back to school for a Ph.D. at 40 years old. At 45 he came out with a book, he enjoyed reading early on but couldn't imagine himself becoming a writer. With great mentors, he got grounded with discipline and mastered writing. He enjoyed his thesis as it surrounded him hanging around the Moonshine or a stock race. His second book is Real NASCAR, White Lightning, Red Clay, and Big Bill Frogs. The France Family were/still are the owners of NASCAR. Perce dives into the rough and aggressive origin of NASCAR.SEGMENT 3Moonshine helped NASCAR and now Joseph wants to discuss how the roles were reversible, in that NASCAR helped NC become the Moonshine Capital. When the federal excise tax was put in place in NC after the Civil War, there was always a tradition in NC to make whiskey and so they made it illegal to upkeep the tradition whilst avoiding the tax. This would still be a strong local option during the prohibition. This made it a great market for Moonshine to thrive and it became a “two-way street” when it came to NASCAR. Successful drivers realized they could make more money with Moonshine than by winning races. There was an economic emergency or young people would get started with work with Moonshine. It became a part of the culture where people accepted the fact that it was needed for people's livelihoods. Both Pierce and Joseph discuss how it's still a lively product as they both are often gifted Moonshine. Popcorn Sutton was the bad image painted onto Moonshiners, but Pierce describes them as entrepreneurs and smart. He also talks about how there were also African Americans, women, and Native Americans. A.A. was actually a step ahead of white folks with illegal handmade liquor.SEGMENT 4Pierce wrote many books about the Great Smokies National Park. One of the most popular books is, “ From Natural Habitats to Natural Parkings”. Another book was, “Moonshine and the Smokies, Corn from a Jar'' which sold the most. He also did a book on the Community of Hazel Creek in Swain County, which surrounds the long controversy about the road to nowhere. The most recent one was a collaboration with an old friend regarding the art of the Smokies, “Illustrated Guide to the Great Smoky Mountains National Park”. Pierce also discusses his book about ​​NASCAR vs the merits of college football. He was in a debate on the South Carolina Public Radio on a series called Tell About the South. Hardy Jackson from Jacksonville State in Alabama argued for football and Pierce argued for NASCAR. He won a lifetime award, the “Western NC Historical Association Outstate Achievement Award''. Pierce is big on equal rights and racial diversity, he's leading a Railroad Incarcerated Committee to honor the forced labor of the 1870's inmates.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------TRANSCRIPT00:00:41.010 –> 00:00:43.320 Joseph McElroy: Welcome to the gateway to the smokies.00:00:43.320 –> 00:00:52.260 Joseph McElroy: podcast this podcast is about America's most business National Park, the great smoky mountains national park, and the surrounding towns.00:00:52.710 –> 00:01:01.470 Joseph McElroy: These areas are filled with natural beauty deep storied history and rich mountain cultures that we explore with weekly episodes.00:01:01.950 –> 00:01:10.440 Joseph McElroy: I'm Joseph Franklin McElroy man of the world, but also with deep roots in these mountains My family has lived in the great smokies for over 200 year.00:01:11.160 –> 00:01:18.540 Joseph McElroy: My businesses and travel, but my heart is in culture today we're going to talk about tar heel lightning talking past NASCAR and.00:01:19.080 –> 00:01:34.620 Joseph McElroy: and other mountain cultural touchstones with Dan Pierce, but first, our sponsors imagine a place evocative of motor courts of the past, yet modern and vibrant with a chic Appalachian feel.00:01:35.250 –> 00:01:46.650 Joseph McElroy: a place for adventure for relaxation imagine a place where you could fish in a mountain parent is trout stream real the catch on fire, and he accompanied by fine line or craft beer.00:01:47.340 –> 00:01:58.710 Joseph McElroy: Imagine a place in the old-time music world cultural cell, there is no other place like the middle like motel Maggie valley you're a smoky mountain adventures start with where you stay.00:02:00.630 –> 00:02:12.780 Joseph McElroy: The smoky mountains and surrounding areas is a vacation destination for all seasons, some of the nation's best hiking trails waterfalls outdoor adventures and family entertainment can be found, right here.00:02:13.470 –> 00:02:32.130 Joseph McElroy: start your adventure by using smokies adventure calm at smokies plural adventure senior.com to explore all the wonderful features of the great smoky mountains National Park trails waterfalls kids Code, the elk, and more and check out all the awesome family attractions.00:02:34.050 –> 00:02:49.260 Joseph McElroy: slinky and interesting logical, it was facilities and entertainment, you and your entire family can enjoy the goal the smokies adventure calm is to be your meeting information source for adventures and experiences and the great smoky mountain.00:02:50.850 –> 00:02:59.880 Joseph McElroy: Some upcoming events, I want to tell you about on June 18 at 4 pm is part four of the heritage books series with Bob Bob.00:03:00.600 –> 00:03:11.790 Joseph McElroy: it's another informative and entertaining and fun afternoon of history, food, and music as a part of part four of our heritage book series, and its an award-winning author and.00:03:12.330 –> 00:03:15.930 Joseph McElroy: meadowlark smoky mountain heritage Center general manager Bob blog.00:03:16.620 –> 00:03:31.710 Joseph McElroy: Discussing his fourth book colorful characters the great smoky mountains and then these books, he leaves the library stories of vibrant and intriguing characters, such as the Cherokee chiefs you don't agus got okay Nice.00:03:32.490 –> 00:03:44.610 Joseph McElroy: Oh, can I should have gotten this before I got on the cocoa know stone soda sorry if I really I'm really butchered that they have dragon canoe and their allies such as john will watch, along with their combat.00:03:45.240 –> 00:03:57.210 Joseph McElroy: Robert Rogers quitting Kennedy King hailer the Stockbridge Mohicans Francis Marion and others and then there's modern-day icon such as von plot Charles matt Miller and URL and.00:03:57.900 –> 00:04:16.830 Joseph McElroy: there'll be a book signing and Barbecue dinner, as well as a evening of acoustic music by Michael Guthrie in France it's the Venice free to motel guests and heritage club Members but there's an admission charge $10 for are all of the people call eight to 89261717 to reserve your place.00:04:17.910 –> 00:04:33.270 Joseph McElroy: On July July night a mountain icon I the Iowa I a hatter is going to have a program called wild crafted and mothers nature natural guard and it starts on July 9 at 10 am and.00:04:34.380 –> 00:04:43.050 Joseph McElroy: it's a program featuring a legendary wildcrafting expert I had her and she was also a renowned author filmmaker instructor and tour guide.00:04:43.410 –> 00:04:49.410 Joseph McElroy: For the great smoky mountains National Park elite DSM field school education Program.00:04:49.920 –> 00:05:01.350 Joseph McElroy: She is an expert on edible plants medicinal herbs of anything pertaining to wild craft forging and Appalachians plant trees and flowers, she is going to give it a presentation on.00:05:01.860 –> 00:05:08.730 Joseph McElroy: On all sorts of stuff related to walk crafting and then she's actually going to take our the guests, and people are on.00:05:09.060 –> 00:05:24.510 Joseph McElroy: an adventure, on the grounds and the surrounding area to actually forge things and learn how to do it right your own backyard so costs eight to 89261717 to reserve your place is free for guests and heritage heard this club members and there's a $20.00:05:25.830 –> 00:05:27.960 Joseph McElroy: price per for admission for everybody else.00:05:29.700 –> 00:05:36.750 Joseph McElroy: And then on August six six there's going to be a chair the launch of cherokee heritage series with Davey art.00:05:38.280 –> 00:05:47.490 Joseph McElroy: Davey arts is a world-famous Cherokee tribal historic and award-winning craftsman of traditional Turkey crafts, specifically masks and baskets.00:05:47.880 –> 00:06:07.200 Joseph McElroy: And a beloved spokesman for the Eastern Cherokee tribe the event will be followed by a Barbecue dinner and music is $20 per guest and it's free for hotel guests call eight to 89261717 to reserve your seat now and for all events at the Meadowlark motel so.00:06:08.220 –> 00:06:16.110 Joseph McElroy: Today we're gonna be talking with Dan pierce, who is a renowned author columnist consultant who earned degrees from Western Carolina University.00:06:16.500 –> 00:06:22.380 Joseph McElroy: The University of Alabama and the University of Tennessee before becoming a history professor at unc Asheville.00:06:22.890 –> 00:06:36.090 Joseph McElroy: Dan is an avid outdoorsman passionate about NASCAR moonshine history Appalachian culture environmental issues and race relations, he lives with his family and black mountain North Carolina hello, Dan how are you doing.00:06:36.600 –> 00:06:37.980 Daniel Pierce: i'm good i'm good.00:06:38.280 –> 00:06:38.760 yeah.00:06:40.110 –> 00:06:43.680 Joseph McElroy: it's good to be here it's a little hot right now but we're getting over it right.00:06:44.130 –> 00:06:45.330 Daniel Pierce: Hopefully, hopefully.00:06:45.660 –> 00:06:52.860 Joseph McElroy: yeah so so like me euro you're a native Western or throw you grew up my sash all right.00:06:53.220 –> 00:07:04.560 Daniel Pierce: I did you know I hesitate call myself a native because I was born in Arkansas but, as I say, I got here as quickly as I could I was three when I.00:07:06.090 –> 00:07:17.100 Daniel Pierce: arrived in West Asheville I've always said, the good Lord i'm thankful to the good Lord for calling my dad to come to pastor the Grace Baptist Church in West Asheville, and so I grew up there.00:07:17.910 –> 00:07:28.590 Daniel Pierce: kind of an as I put it, a combination of Mayberry and a cotton mill town in will stifle at that time, which is not at all what West Asheville is today.00:07:28.680 –> 00:07:30.210 Joseph McElroy: I know it's changed a little bit.00:07:31.230 –> 00:07:32.190 Daniel Pierce: he's a little lot.00:07:33.570 –> 00:07:39.240 Joseph McElroy: Well, you know I just relocated with my family back you know I grew up in a wood county yeah right next to Asheville.00:07:39.660 –> 00:07:53.970 Joseph McElroy: My family's been in that county for over 200 years, so you know I got I was born and raised and all that sort of thing, but that has spent 27 years in New York City where my kids were born and I just reload your head the whole kit and caboodle back to Asheville so.00:07:56.280 –> 00:08:09.930 Joseph McElroy: it's you know it's a it's a great place to common yeah, as you can say, as you, as you mentioned this changed a lot, I think, in a positive way, but it was it was I thought it was pretty cool we were growing up what was it like growing up in West asheville.00:08:10.530 –> 00:08:21.870 Daniel Pierce: Well, like I said it was kind of a combination of Mayberry and cotton mill town, you know when and course we were very much free-range kids at the time, and you know ride our bikes all ever West asheville and Walt.00:08:23.190 –> 00:08:29.790 Daniel Pierce: You know I remember one particular Saturday bye buddy Steve Harris, and I just decided on the spur of the moment we'd walk despite.00:08:30.180 –> 00:08:38.550 Daniel Pierce: to the top of the mountain, which is out in the last area, so we walked out Lester highway and we we remind me, you know 1112 years old and and.00:08:39.210 –> 00:08:48.870 Daniel Pierce: Well, to the top of the mountain and back nobody knew, you know I mean it's probably I don't know 1015 miles when we walk that day, but that was the place, I grew up you.00:08:48.870 –> 00:08:49.650 Daniel Pierce: know I mean we.00:08:50.070 –> 00:08:51.510 Daniel Pierce: knew everybody and.00:08:53.400 –> 00:08:54.570 Daniel Pierce: pretty much and.00:08:55.770 –> 00:09:03.510 Daniel Pierce: It was just one of those kinds of neighborhoods so and the other great thing was being in western North Carolina and typically once.00:09:04.710 –> 00:09:09.150 Daniel Pierce: You got a little more mobile and wheels, you know we went to the mountains, a lot and.00:09:10.770 –> 00:09:16.830 Daniel Pierce: You know, we go the top of mountain play capture the flag and stuff like that a row rocks off the side of the mountain there.00:09:19.290 –> 00:09:26.340 Daniel Pierce: and go to swimming holes and all that kind of stuff so it was a great I didn't know at the time, but it was a great great place to grow.00:09:27.060 –> 00:09:35.460 Joseph McElroy: it's still good you know I I went right in our backyard so far we're North asheville right and we're on a real real wonderful street.00:09:35.880 –> 00:09:42.840 Joseph McElroy: You know, and our kids bike on the street, just like you, you, you know you remember, they were out there with other kids and.00:09:43.140 –> 00:09:56.430 Joseph McElroy: All you have to use your car and all the kids get off the road but it's not there's not really that much traffic but what's interesting is is that in the in the week that we've been here we've seen had a BlackBerry to deer in our backyard.00:09:57.510 –> 00:10:01.350 Joseph McElroy: which I don't really remember Asheville being that prevalent for big wildlife.00:10:01.650 –> 00:10:16.260 Daniel Pierce: yeah there were no turkeys there he never saw a bear unless you're in the smokies and their head was in a garbage can and you never solved there you know it was it's it's really one of the great changes recent well.00:10:17.700 –> 00:10:26.250 Daniel Pierce: I prefer to see bears a little less frequently in my yard actually one got up i've got my bird feeder strong about.00:10:26.940 –> 00:10:42.930 Daniel Pierce: 15 feet up off the ground and one of them figured out how to get up there and kind of twine the wire and got one of the bird feeders to bounce off today, so a lot we we saw i'm trying it the other day and I shot him with a bb gun I don't know if I can say that.00:10:43.200 –> 00:10:43.500 yeah.00:10:44.520 –> 00:10:45.420 Daniel Pierce: Is that legal.00:10:48.210 –> 00:10:51.090 Daniel Pierce: And scare them off, but he got my bird feeder today and I.00:10:51.090 –> 00:10:51.360 can't.00:10:54.270 –> 00:10:59.790 Joseph McElroy: bit bb guns and rocks over the thing back in the day and I think they're probably still could have their uses.00:11:02.700 –> 00:11:10.080 Joseph McElroy: So what do I think it's interesting you grew up in West Asheville it's changed a lot like you mentioned What would you think is the biggest change.00:11:10.950 –> 00:11:12.600 Daniel Pierce: Well, the real estate prices for.00:11:12.600 –> 00:11:13.890 Joseph McElroy: Oh yeah.00:11:14.520 –> 00:11:21.090 Daniel Pierce: They were just talking about you know, is it going to be a million-dollar bungalow for sale and West Asheville soon you know it's.00:11:21.960 –> 00:11:37.920 Daniel Pierce: crazy, you know the House, it was very blue-collar when I when I grew up there, and, of course, you had the actual speedway down there having races and or or, as some people put it, you know what went to the fights and a race broke out, you know.00:11:40.710 –> 00:11:48.120 Daniel Pierce: Pretty rough place but you know and the and the only dining establishment really was the tasty diner you know and.00:11:49.470 –> 00:11:53.670 Daniel Pierce: Where you could go sit at the bar with jack ingram you know, is in the nascar hall of fame so.00:11:55.320 –> 00:11:59.820 Joseph McElroy: Great foodie place now man there's some great restaurants out there, look jargon right.00:12:00.240 –> 00:12:04.410 Daniel Pierce: Now those weren't there you know it's kind of one of those deals, you know I hear they're good.00:12:04.890 –> 00:12:05.490 Joseph McElroy: yeah.00:12:05.940 –> 00:12:07.350 Daniel Pierce: I don't get the West Eiffel much.00:12:09.450 –> 00:12:15.780 Joseph McElroy: jargon is good there's a there's a really great coffee place i'm drawing a blank on the name, right now, but then there's.00:12:16.740 –> 00:12:22.590 Joseph McElroy: You know the early girl is opened up West Asheville, which is a really good you have farm to table thing so.00:12:23.580 –> 00:12:35.580 Joseph McElroy: it's it's become a great place to go and pick up some really good food i'm telling you right now, everybody should go visit there and then they got the artsy sort of seeing going on and performance and things like that.00:12:36.240 –> 00:12:38.250 Joseph McElroy: And I read an interview that's.00:12:38.280 –> 00:12:41.190 Daniel Pierce: Not my day was the chili dog at the surfside.00:12:41.220 –> 00:12:41.910 Joseph McElroy: yeah right.00:12:42.570 –> 00:12:48.150 Joseph McElroy: Or, I remember driving back you know and we'd always stopped West actual at the denny's after being at the nightclub but.00:12:50.340 –> 00:13:06.270 Joseph McElroy: I don't see to be open anymore so ready very interview that she said something the effect that folks around that actually had no pretense that are they they are who they are take it or leave it I you know, do you feel that's that's the way they are now to.00:13:06.840 –> 00:13:09.240 Daniel Pierce: A it's hard to say yeah.00:13:09.240 –> 00:13:09.630 Right.00:13:11.280 –> 00:13:14.070 Daniel Pierce: it's a different I don't have as good a raid on.00:13:15.630 –> 00:13:20.190 Daniel Pierce: The recent arrivals as I did the folks I grew up with.00:13:21.510 –> 00:13:28.500 Joseph McElroy: was very true but I grew up the same thing, and I think that the people that are local here are, and I think it rubs off, I do think that people.00:13:28.890 –> 00:13:42.990 Joseph McElroy: come from different areas get a little bit let it get lost a little bit of the pretense and they become a little bit more authentic I mean not as authentic as yeah what we grew up with but yeah like you know, there was somebody that I read somewhere that.00:13:44.010 –> 00:13:55.920 Joseph McElroy: Nobody really has a fancy car asheville you know it's yeah everybody has you know sort of you know, work practical cars right.00:13:56.790 –> 00:14:01.440 Daniel Pierce: Well, mine is minus the truck with us still a possible bumper sticker on it.00:14:01.470 –> 00:14:07.320 Joseph McElroy: So I'm still I'm driving my dad's 1984 GMC truck so.00:14:09.900 –> 00:14:12.780 Joseph McElroy: To get this current gas moment i'm not driver that much.00:14:12.840 –> 00:14:13.230 yeah.00:14:14.430 –> 00:14:20.520 Joseph McElroy: hey listen, we have to take a break and we'll come back talk a little bit more about your history and then get into some of your books all right.00:14:20.850 –> 00:14:21.180 Daniel Pierce: All right.00:16:37.200 –> 00:16:50.490 Joseph McElroy: howdy this is Joseph Franklin McElroy back with the gateway to the smokies podcast my guest Dan Pierce so Dan you grew up in Asheville, then you left it to go get your bachelor's.00:16:51.570 –> 00:17:06.510 Joseph McElroy: vs bachelor of science at Western Carolyn Carolyn diversity and your masters of Alabama and then your PhD at the University of Tennessee and now Lo and behold, you are renowned writer and history, Professor did you always want to be a teacher and writer.00:17:08.310 –> 00:17:08.880 Daniel Pierce: well.00:17:10.050 –> 00:17:15.840 Daniel Pierce: A teacher, I think, was something I arrived at, you know in my late teens I worked at a.00:17:17.610 –> 00:17:30.030 Daniel Pierce: Had a partner program and Asheville and I ran apart for a couple of summers I like kids a lot and so ended up majoring in education, I taught fifth grade for three years and I had.00:17:31.740 –> 00:17:39.270 Daniel Pierce: kind of a weird experience educationally I was a horrible student I was kind of a noxious kid but I had a sixth-grade teacher That was really.00:17:40.200 –> 00:17:51.180 Daniel Pierce: inspiring she loved history and then a weird thing happened, where she was she was a widow she asked me if i'd like to go to Europe and so.00:17:52.230 –> 00:18:00.210 Daniel Pierce: Taking me the next summer after my seventh-grade year to Europe me and another 12-year-old boy, it was.00:18:00.750 –> 00:18:01.800 Joseph McElroy: A lot of studying.00:18:02.280 –> 00:18:02.760 Joseph McElroy: Oh, my God.00:18:02.940 –> 00:18:04.710 Joseph McElroy: yeah it changed your life.00:18:05.580 –> 00:18:18.300 Daniel Pierce: yeah really strange and then she ended up being my mom's best friend so in just a deer name is Steve Bennett and just a wonderful person so she kind of inspired me to teach and then I had a lot of bad examples I think that I learned from.00:18:21.420 –> 00:18:27.540 Daniel Pierce: about what not to do, and so I taught fifth-grade love that but was young single went to.00:18:28.650 –> 00:18:34.710 Daniel Pierce: pulled up and went to Alabama, which is a great experience for two years and got my masters and.00:18:35.790 –> 00:18:40.440 Daniel Pierce: kind of cast my lot with southern history, at that point.00:18:41.550 –> 00:18:52.410 Daniel Pierce: Then I got married and moved to Nashville Tennessee and taught high school for eight years and I was coach peers for that time and really enjoy that stage of my life but, but then decided.00:18:53.670 –> 00:18:56.670 Daniel Pierce: With the help of my life to go back for a PhD so.00:18:57.960 –> 00:19:06.540 Daniel Pierce: I finished my Ph.D. at about the age of 40 and so you know I kind of came this late in life and then.00:19:07.890 –> 00:19:08.790 Daniel Pierce: You know the first.00:19:10.440 –> 00:19:21.360 Daniel Pierce: The first book, I guess, I was 45 when the first book came out, so I really never imagined, you know I've always been an avid reader but I never imagined being a writer and then.00:19:23.010 –> 00:19:28.260 Daniel Pierce: I just had some great mentors in graduate school that simplify things for me writing was always.00:19:30.000 –> 00:19:43.230 Daniel Pierce: painful for me, and then they simplified things made it much easier and and and and taught me how to sit down and write in and so, then that you know that I don't know you know seven oh.00:19:43.590 –> 00:19:46.500 Joseph McElroy: Would you start writing before you came to unc actual.00:19:47.400 –> 00:19:52.740 Daniel Pierce: Well, I could have had to write a dissertation I had to do a master's thesis and dissertation and such.00:19:53.190 –> 00:19:55.260 Joseph McElroy: A good writing the books and so you got to do and CA.00:19:55.410 –> 00:20:01.950 Daniel Pierce: yeah well the dissertation became the first book, but I had to do some significant rewriting on it and.00:20:03.060 –> 00:20:19.800 Daniel Pierce: And I've been very fortunate to be the places where I've been where I've kind of been able to pick and choose what I wanted to do research on to write about so you know you know, I have a good time with it, so there are some people I know who hated their dissertation topic.00:20:19.800 –> 00:20:19.920 Joseph McElroy: and00:20:20.910 –> 00:20:26.310 Daniel Pierce: You know they hate their research but they're kind of stuck because of the requirements of their tenure whatever and.00:20:27.120 –> 00:20:36.510 Daniel Pierce: I've just been able to do what I want, so I have a good time and I get to do research by you know going hiking in the mountains or going to a stock car race or hanging out with moonshine are.00:20:36.510 –> 00:20:37.530 Joseph McElroy: not bad research.00:20:37.530 –> 00:20:41.670 Daniel Pierce: Right like that are traveling in the West, recently, you know.00:20:41.850 –> 00:20:49.590 Joseph McElroy: how did you get I don't know if it's lucky or whatever that actually get to come back to your hometown to be a professor for so long.00:20:49.860 –> 00:20:54.600 Daniel Pierce: It was totally accidental I was in graduate school finishing up and.00:20:55.950 –> 00:20:58.500 Daniel Pierce: One-year position opened up at marcell.00:20:59.730 –> 00:21:07.740 Daniel Pierce: University and did that, for a year and then I was fortunate enough to get a one year deal at unc asheville.00:21:08.880 –> 00:21:21.390 Daniel Pierce: And then I was fortunate enough to get a one-year deal at Western Carolina University and then I kind of adjunct it for a while and, finally, I think unc Asheville figured I wasn't going to go away and they finally hired me on the tenure track.00:21:22.590 –> 00:21:24.150 Daniel Pierce: Oh yeah and.00:21:24.480 –> 00:21:25.110 Joseph McElroy: She actually.00:21:25.140 –> 00:21:31.320 Joseph McElroy: A very interesting place you know we were we moved on right there right, so I paid attention to what you know I actually.00:21:31.740 –> 00:21:39.600 Joseph McElroy: You know I've been an artist I've been in some museums and things but yeah one of my first actually my first formal training in art.00:21:40.110 –> 00:21:48.780 Joseph McElroy: was at unc Asheville I mean I'd gone to do and then had a career in technology and I burned out for a little while and just sort of tooled around in my first formal training.00:21:49.230 –> 00:21:58.980 Joseph McElroy: of any sort of school was at unc Asheville before I moved on up North and went to other places, but so sort of fun for me to be live in there, you know it's.00:22:00.690 –> 00:22:08.970 Joseph McElroy: it's a great place that they're having something very soon that thing is interesting you're having a world-class conference called the idea festival.00:22:09.390 –> 00:22:09.930 Daniel Pierce: yeah.00:22:10.050 –> 00:22:10.950 Joseph McElroy: Pretty crazy right.00:22:11.190 –> 00:22:11.940 Daniel Pierce: yeah I got.00:22:15.660 –> 00:22:16.530 Daniel Pierce: yeah lots of.00:22:18.270 –> 00:22:20.610 Daniel Pierce: Speakers john meacham.00:22:21.450 –> 00:22:23.430 Joseph McElroy: My major people really.00:22:23.880 –> 00:22:29.850 Joseph McElroy: yeah I am in the middle of moving I'm still doing this, I can't go, but I probably go next year, it looks great.00:22:30.300 –> 00:22:47.580 Joseph McElroy: yeah so your books and articles cover a pretty wide range of subjects, all of them interested you already started mentioning them, but in 19 to 2010 you released real NASCAR white lightning red clay and bill big bill France was that your first book.00:22:48.300 –> 00:22:58.080 Daniel Pierce: Now that was the second, the first one was 10 years before that actually was my dissertation it was on it's called the great smokies from natural habitat to the national park and it's.00:22:59.130 –> 00:23:10.800 Daniel Pierce: That was one of the great smoky mountain National Park, so it kind of cast that's kind of been, I guess, if I have an area, you know for my books are related to the great smoky mountains so.00:23:12.030 –> 00:23:15.120 Joseph McElroy: He looks are your series on Nascar to and moonshine so you have.00:23:15.450 –> 00:23:15.900 yeah.00:23:18.360 –> 00:23:22.230 Daniel Pierce: yeah there's some overlap there, so I did the NASCAR book and then.00:23:23.310 –> 00:23:35.610 Daniel Pierce: A guy with the great smoky mountains, association, and editor there asked me to do a book on moonshine the smokies, and then that turned into a bigger book I'll moonshine in North Carolina so well.00:23:35.970 –> 00:23:39.390 Daniel Pierce: So they all kind of run together in kind of a weird way.00:23:40.230 –> 00:23:44.670 Joseph McElroy: Why why, why did you write a book on NASCAR, I will get what was their interest there.00:23:45.210 –> 00:23:55.230 Daniel Pierce: Well, the big thing I always you know I grew up and I put it within earshot of the what they call the new Asheville speedway or the or the river, which was kind of a leg.00:23:56.700 –> 00:24:00.840 Daniel Pierce: yeah dental Nam boy road and West Asheville and it was a big hang out.00:24:02.550 –> 00:24:14.580 Daniel Pierce: I was kind of well easily influenced by my brother my older brother and he was all about kind of living down your West Asheville roots and.00:24:14.940 –> 00:24:27.510 Daniel Pierce: and your redneck roots in and hanging out with the North Asheville kids and all that, so I always I never went to a race there, I never thought about we just didn't do that kind of thing you know Baptist preacher son and.00:24:27.900 –> 00:24:31.920 Daniel Pierce: and always kind of make fun of it, but then I had a roommate at Western.00:24:32.700 –> 00:24:36.810 Daniel Pierce: Western Carolina who was avid I mean he still is and.00:24:38.310 –> 00:24:47.520 Daniel Pierce: And he kept trying to get me to get a races and then finally right, as I was finishing up my PhD work at Tennessee he was living in East Tennessee.00:24:48.360 –> 00:24:56.400 Daniel Pierce: He said I got take it so got a couple of tickets to Bristol why don't you come to go with me, and so I thought well you can't call yourself a southern historian if you've.00:24:56.910 –> 00:24:57.600 Joseph McElroy: never been done.00:24:58.770 –> 00:25:06.930 Daniel Pierce: You know, and so that was 1994 and I went to my first race was night race at Bristol I don't have a clue about anything.00:25:07.860 –> 00:25:17.760 Daniel Pierce: the first thing he didn't say anything about how loud, it was and I didn't have any earplugs or anything I thought I was going to go deaf and so fortunately I had a strap on my sunglasses and I was able to stuff that my ears and.00:25:18.360 –> 00:25:31.530 Daniel Pierce: And, but the thing that got me, I think I mean the racing was incredible I mean it was just really exciting, but the thing that got me where the fans that just were unreal I mean just the past.00:25:32.190 –> 00:25:34.680 Daniel Pierce: fanatics yeah yeah there was a guy.00:25:35.040 –> 00:25:37.050 Joseph McElroy: What explains that popularity yeah.00:25:37.110 –> 00:25:41.250 Daniel Pierce: You know I don't know I don't see it as intense as it was at that.00:25:42.570 –> 00:25:58.980 Daniel Pierce: But it was intense and I'll never forget, there was a guy sitting in front of us and we were way up near the top and we're 100 rose up or more, and this guy was sitting if he had a big old cooler he brought he and I don't know how many beers he driving but.00:25:59.130 –> 00:26:13.560 Daniel Pierce: yeah but he would they at bristol's a half mile track so they're coming by every 16 1516 seconds this guy would stand up every time Dale Earnhardt's car came by and she didn't bark.00:26:14.820 –> 00:26:16.290 Joseph McElroy: Ah, so.00:26:16.650 –> 00:26:18.840 Joseph McElroy: If it goes a little bit like pro wrestling there they.00:26:21.300 –> 00:26:22.140 Joseph McElroy: Had a little bit of a.00:26:24.210 –> 00:26:27.450 Joseph McElroy: Of a character that represented yeah.00:26:27.510 –> 00:26:40.920 Daniel Pierce: yeah but I mean there was a lot of that kind of it was very almost a moral drama almost, particularly at that time Jeff Gordon was coming on the scene is kind of clean-cut California kid you know and here's Dale earnhardt this rough.00:26:42.150 –> 00:26:51.480 Daniel Pierce: A rough and tumble God worked in a cotton mill you know, and you know Greece under his fingernails kind of guy which is not necessarily true but.00:26:52.110 –> 00:26:52.710 Daniel Pierce: But he had.00:26:52.740 –> 00:26:57.660 Daniel Pierce: Any image, you know, and so it was great you know I mean it was just intense you know.00:26:58.080 –> 00:27:05.940 Joseph McElroy: The first big name in NASCAR was William Henry Getty Big Bill France well what was this what was his position on sports?00:27:06.120 –> 00:27:06.900 Daniel Pierce: way he was.00:27:07.440 –> 00:27:22.800 Daniel Pierce: The founder basically the order, I mean the France family it's unique and professional sports and that that nascar is owned by the France family still as a woman, by the France family and so his.00:27:26.790 –> 00:27:38.640 Daniel Pierce: His brother or his side, Jim France is pretty much the head of it now, but then his his grandchildren well Brian Francis kind of out of the picture now he ran it for a while a grandchild and.00:27:39.990 –> 00:27:50.040 Daniel Pierce: Lisa France Kennedy is has a big hand and so it's still a family run business and then he kind of ran it with a with an iron fist back in the day and course it was.00:27:50.160 –> 00:27:52.650 Joseph McElroy: Back in those days, it was all those guys were like.00:27:52.740 –> 00:27:55.680 Daniel Pierce: yeah I mean it was it was a pretty rough crowd you.00:27:55.680 –> 00:28:06.510 Daniel Pierce: know the you know there was a lot of those guys, you know got their first high speed driving experience behind about you know, a 39 for coop you know Holland liquor.00:28:06.840 –> 00:28:08.820 Daniel Pierce: yeah right somewhere so.00:28:08.820 –> 00:28:16.890 Joseph McElroy: trying to get trying to get the front end of one of those coops we got the moonshine room, I was well put it in there yeah so you know.00:28:17.460 –> 00:28:30.660 Joseph McElroy: I would take a break soon, but you have you declare at the end of that book I would humbly suggest this time for Nascar to stop modernizing tradition and start embracing his tradition what's the simple explanation of that statement.00:28:31.230 –> 00:28:41.790 Daniel Pierce: Well, you know they are kind of hidden from their moonshine roots they're doing a little bit more now, but I think they ought to embrace it, you know, I think that they it's a great story you.00:28:41.790 –> 00:28:42.060 know.00:28:43.290 –> 00:28:52.020 Daniel Pierce: These guys, who had nothing you know but we're very creative and entrepreneurial and aggressive you know, maybe.00:28:52.320 –> 00:29:03.420 Joseph McElroy: Some of my relatives ran yeah moonshine and now they had souped up cars man and the stories of them racing through the hills, to avoid revenue, or is there a pretty heritage right so.00:29:06.210 –> 00:29:12.300 Joseph McElroy: cool we got to take another break when I come back i'll talk a little bit more about moonshine and your book so matt.00:31:22.080 –> 00:31:29.610 Joseph McElroy: howdy this is Joseph Franklin McElroy back with the gateway to the smokies podcast my guest is Dan Pierce so Dan you know you.00:31:30.300 –> 00:31:34.350 Joseph McElroy: You wrote another book you've actually written a couple of books about moonshine you wrote another one.00:31:34.650 –> 00:31:51.240 Joseph McElroy: That combined NASCAR and moonshine called tar heel lightning how secret stills and fast cars mean North Carolina the moonshine capital, the world, so we talked about how moonshine helped nascar how did nascar fast cars make North Carolina the moonshine capital.00:31:52.020 –> 00:32:03.510 Daniel Pierce: Well it's a long story, but from the very beginning, when you know, making whiskey became la or illegal, that is, if you didn't pay the federal excise tax, and that was.00:32:05.220 –> 00:32:07.950 Daniel Pierce: Well, went into effect in North Carolina right after the civil war.00:32:09.060 –> 00:32:24.720 Daniel Pierce: North Carolina from the very beginning, you know, there was a long tradition of making making whiskey in North Carolina I mean going back to the earliest white settlers who brought that skill with them and brought their skills, with them perfectly legal activity.00:32:26.340 –> 00:32:28.380 Daniel Pierce: With few exceptions, up until then.00:32:29.580 –> 00:32:37.260 Daniel Pierce: And you know they weren't about to give it up, you know, and so it was too important of economic activity, they couldn't make any money if they.00:32:37.740 –> 00:32:48.330 Daniel Pierce: On it, if they pay the tax, and so they made it illegally and, and so it just became very much ingrained in North Carolina history and culture as hard as the.00:32:48.810 –> 00:32:56.730 Daniel Pierce: Federal Government and then went around the turn of the century, you started getting probation and then North Carolina became one of the first states to.00:32:58.350 –> 00:33:00.900 Daniel Pierce: To have statewide probation in 1909.00:33:01.920 –> 00:33:13.110 Daniel Pierce: And it's it's kind of interesting there's that that that dynamic with prohibition and moonshine that they really go hand in hand and part of the reason North Carolina was.00:33:14.010 –> 00:33:24.150 Daniel Pierce: Such moonshine was so important in North Carolina and so big in North Carolina was because probation was so strong and so.00:33:24.510 –> 00:33:24.780 Joseph McElroy: You know.00:33:24.990 –> 00:33:35.430 Daniel Pierce: After national you know you had national prohibition when that ended you still had local option in North Carolina and so most counties were dry well into the 60s and 70s and.00:33:36.000 –> 00:33:47.460 Daniel Pierce: Even still have some dry municipalities and stuff like that around the state but but, again, it was long time before you know, most people could buy.00:33:47.910 –> 00:34:01.920 Daniel Pierce: Legal liquor in this state, so there was a great market for moonshine which course fed into nascar, you know as kind of a you know, a two way street, there you know you had people who who became successful drivers who.00:34:03.000 –> 00:34:05.580 Daniel Pierce: figured out, they could make more money hauling liquor then they could win.00:34:08.250 –> 00:34:14.640 Joseph McElroy: or an economic, it was I mean it had a it was an economic boom for people in the mountains, even though it was also.00:34:15.120 –> 00:34:25.200 Joseph McElroy: devastating you know and a lot of social ills from it as well, but now it was like quick money right yeah there was you couldn't get loans you couldn't get anything else, but you could make money with moonshine right.00:34:25.680 –> 00:34:35.790 Daniel Pierce: yeah for a lot of people, it was kind of an insurance policy, and you know, most people were not career moonshiners you know they weren't your popcorn sutton's you know who.00:34:36.210 –> 00:34:43.200 Daniel Pierce: Who did it all their life, you know they did it, you know, and they were there was kind of an economic emergency or there or they're young they're you know they're kind of.00:34:44.460 –> 00:34:56.790 Daniel Pierce: You know, starting out so a lot of people, you know you know it's kind of funny you know you talk to people everybody says Oh well, you know I in my family, you know someone so holic or something like that and.00:34:57.270 –> 00:35:03.000 Daniel Pierce: And it was just a common thing you know for a lot of people, it was one of the few ways that you could get cash money.00:35:03.330 –> 00:35:06.120 Joseph McElroy: yeah yeah hard to get cash.00:35:06.150 –> 00:35:18.990 Daniel Pierce: Right cash money, and you know if you're willing to take the risk, and so you know for a lot of people, it was you know almost unexpected depend on the Community you're in you know is almost an expected thing you know and.00:35:20.400 –> 00:35:22.230 Daniel Pierce: And for a lot of people it wasn't great.00:35:22.710 –> 00:35:35.730 Daniel Pierce: You know, particularly in rural areas that when a great disability, you know the preacher might preach against it but, but the preacher understood to that you needed to do what you which could put shoes on your kid's feet and.00:35:38.700 –> 00:35:39.840 Daniel Pierce: and feed them and so.00:35:40.980 –> 00:35:43.320 Daniel Pierce: And the preacher also knew that he got.00:35:44.340 –> 00:35:47.700 Daniel Pierce: You know that money in the offering plate often came from laker money so.00:35:47.820 –> 00:35:58.800 Joseph McElroy: I listened to all the general stores loved it, because who bought word they buy the sugar where they buy that you know the components that fed the economy in general, so you know it was a.00:36:00.000 –> 00:36:09.840 Joseph McElroy: And then yeah you hadn't things different you wrote a book called corn from a jar which we actually carry here at the metal Arc that explored, a lot of these issues didn't it.00:36:10.770 –> 00:36:13.260 Daniel Pierce: yeah like specifically at the smokies but.00:36:14.400 –> 00:36:15.630 Daniel Pierce: Again, you know that's a.00:36:17.850 –> 00:36:18.150 You.00:36:19.410 –> 00:36:21.330 Joseph McElroy: Know moonshine is good for cough.00:36:21.600 –> 00:36:22.290 Daniel Pierce: Well, it is.00:36:24.900 –> 00:36:27.660 Daniel Pierce: I got a freezer full of it people keep giving it to him.00:36:28.710 –> 00:36:29.250 Joseph McElroy: Oh yeah.00:36:29.310 –> 00:36:30.900 Daniel Pierce: we're still i'm pretty active.00:36:31.800 –> 00:36:39.990 Joseph McElroy: Oh man I get people showing up at the motel we have our pavilion we have like a will have a bluegrass festival or something man everybody's giving me boo chatting yeah.00:36:40.650 –> 00:36:41.340 So.00:36:42.570 –> 00:36:43.890 Daniel Pierce: I got a freezer full of it.00:36:44.370 –> 00:36:44.820 Joseph McElroy: yeah.00:36:45.600 –> 00:36:46.980 Daniel Pierce: I do need to go against it but.00:36:47.880 –> 00:36:53.640 Joseph McElroy: My dad you know here's a bunch of he probably still he used to eat popcorn he probably still have some popcorn.00:36:53.820 –> 00:36:57.330 Daniel Pierce: yeah well I think everybody has some purportedly.00:36:57.630 –> 00:37:01.200 Daniel Pierce: yeah a chat I've heard a lot of it, oh yeah I got some popcorn.00:37:03.960 –> 00:37:18.900 Joseph McElroy: So what's up you know, there was a lot of cultural representations of moonshiners and I think a lot of that you know was purposely you know denigrating people making them into bumpkins but what do you think is the side of moonshine that most people have never seen.00:37:19.680 –> 00:37:23.250 Daniel Pierce: Well, there guys, there are a lot of signs and that was what the book.00:37:26.070 –> 00:37:35.580 Daniel Pierce: Tar heel lighting is really bad it's kind of a lot complicating I guess the image, because if people's me to moonshiners kind of popcorn site, and you know.00:37:36.570 –> 00:37:46.500 Daniel Pierce: Guy with a beard and overalls and they'll truck and you know, in the file mouth, and you know and apparently popcorn was no dummy for sure and.00:37:48.360 –> 00:37:51.060 Daniel Pierce: But you know one they were.00:37:52.260 –> 00:37:58.410 Daniel Pierce: A lot of these people were very smart they were very entrepreneurial they were very skilled.00:38:00.360 –> 00:38:15.990 Daniel Pierce: have often talked about junior Johnson that famous car driver and car owner, but he, of course, got his start you know, in the family business, which was moonshine but I've often said about junior Johnson I think he's one of the smartest people he didn't come across is.00:38:17.040 –> 00:38:26.700 Daniel Pierce: Particularly intelligent, but he was one of the smartest people I've ever encountered often said he probably never read a physics book, but I think you could write one.00:38:29.160 –> 00:38:31.590 Daniel Pierce: A lot of these people were really smart The other thing was that.00:38:33.540 –> 00:38:50.700 Daniel Pierce: We had the same as the white mountain near and the fact of the matter is in North Carolina in particular and most of the South, it was all over I mean you know there are many coastal swap moonshiners is that we're mountain moonshiners you know lower in Piedmont, it was all over.00:38:51.930 –> 00:39:00.900 Daniel Pierce: And it was an end, and they weren't all fly there were a lot of native Americans particularly manga lambie down the eastern part of North Carolina.00:39:00.930 –> 00:39:03.450 Joseph McElroy: They sort of taught moonshiners about corners as.00:39:03.690 –> 00:39:04.530 Daniel Pierce: Well yeah you.00:39:05.550 –> 00:39:07.200 Daniel Pierce: Know actually the.00:39:08.190 –> 00:39:17.970 Daniel Pierce: The first moonshiners in North Carolina were African American and Native American because in the 1830s the legislature passed a law that said.00:39:19.140 –> 00:39:24.210 Daniel Pierce: said free persons of color could not make liquor or sell liquor.00:39:25.680 –> 00:39:30.570 Daniel Pierce: And so they were making it illegally before you know before white people were.00:39:31.140 –> 00:39:31.620 Joseph McElroy: made were used.00:39:31.770 –> 00:39:32.640 Daniel Pierce: to watch a nation.00:39:32.670 –> 00:39:36.120 Daniel Pierce: Plus, they were also traditions of slaves too.00:39:37.710 –> 00:39:43.290 Daniel Pierce: apply plantation distilleries using slave Labor so like a lot of African Americans knew how to make liquor.00:39:43.410 –> 00:39:44.640 Joseph McElroy: I knew very good.00:39:45.630 –> 00:39:51.360 Daniel Pierce: yeah, then the other thing I think that that's that kind of blows people's minds was the number of women involved.00:39:52.440 –> 00:39:55.350 Daniel Pierce: And that's just a fascinating story, you know.00:39:55.350 –> 00:39:57.930 Joseph McElroy: Especially on the brandy, they made from those that.00:39:57.990 –> 00:40:01.740 Joseph McElroy: moonshine right at it out yeah for things like.00:40:02.520 –> 00:40:17.370 Daniel Pierce: Well, if you had fruit trees, you know back in you know well before refrigeration became common if you had free trees, there was one reason why you did, and that was the to make brandy or apple jack or something.00:40:17.370 –> 00:40:19.590 Daniel Pierce: Like alcohol from it.00:40:21.570 –> 00:40:32.880 Daniel Pierce: Because you couldn't you know if you had a big orchard, I mean you couldn't preserve all that you couldn't get to market, but you could distill it and you could get that the market and it would really sale to.00:40:33.060 –> 00:40:44.790 Joseph McElroy: find the things that you can you know I just discovered, I can make me from hmi here at the motel and once we get our fortified wine and liquor license and I'm going to be making I'm gonna be making our own been.00:40:45.870 –> 00:40:47.730 Joseph McElroy: A tradition to figure out what you can.00:40:48.990 –> 00:40:50.700 Daniel Pierce: that's right, you have it handy.00:40:51.270 –> 00:40:56.700 Joseph McElroy: But you know I want to get to you know you said you'd wrote four books about the great smoky mountains and.00:40:58.350 –> 00:41:06.360 Joseph McElroy: You know, and I think the first one was natural habitat to national parks it seems you're a passionate environmentalist, can you tell us about this book?00:41:07.110 –> 00:41:15.060 Daniel Pierce: yeah well again it's on the establishment of the park and it's a yeah it's a great story, you know it's a unique story because.00:41:16.260 –> 00:41:18.240 Daniel Pierce: smokies and Shenandoah we're.00:41:19.650 –> 00:41:27.720 Daniel Pierce: Creating a unique way at that time and in the 1920s Congress said they would not purchase lands for national parks, all the national parks.00:41:28.440 –> 00:41:45.300 Daniel Pierce: Were were in the West, and they were in the federal domain, all you did was say to sign, basically, of which federal agencies managing it so, but the Congress wouldn't buy land for for national parks and so, but then they said, if the states will buy the land.00:41:47.070 –> 00:42:00.240 Daniel Pierce: And we approve this land is appropriate for national park, then, then the states can turn the land over to us and we'll make it a national park and so that's what happened, but it was a long slow process because they had to.00:42:02.550 –> 00:42:07.230 Daniel Pierce: They had raised the money to buy to buy the land, so they had private donations.00:42:09.990 –> 00:42:11.730 Daniel Pierce: They had state bonds and then.00:42:13.350 –> 00:42:21.180 Daniel Pierce: Finally, it was john D Rockefeller jr who who know $95 million to make it happen so.00:42:22.200 –> 00:42:23.700 Daniel Pierce: it's a unique thing so.00:42:26.520 –> 00:42:26.730 He.00:42:28.380 –> 00:42:31.140 Daniel Pierce: So people, the Western North Carolina and East Tennessee.00:42:32.190 –> 00:42:35.490 Daniel Pierce: feel a real sense of ownership about the.00:42:36.660 –> 00:42:36.990 Daniel Pierce: About.00:42:38.460 –> 00:42:40.680 Daniel Pierce: about the park that other places don't have.00:42:41.790 –> 00:42:47.640 Joseph McElroy: cool well you know we're good, I think we could take it that we could take a break, right now, and you get some more water and.00:42:49.770 –> 00:42:54.840 Joseph McElroy: And then we'll come back we'll talk more about some of your books and some of the other things that you've done in.00:42:56.640 –> 00:42:56.970 Daniel Pierce: Hello.00:45:00.630 –> 00:45:11.220 Joseph McElroy: howdy this is Joseph Franklin McElroy back with the gateway to the smokies podcasts and my guest Dan peers so, then you wrote several books about the great smoky National Park.00:45:12.360 –> 00:45:19.410 Joseph McElroy: That, I mentioned the one that was really popular from natural habitat to national party what are some of the others that people might look up.00:45:20.790 –> 00:45:21.510 Daniel Pierce: Well, I did.00:45:22.470 –> 00:45:26.760 Daniel Pierce: yeah I did the one on been shot in the smokies corn from a jars part of the book that sold the most.00:45:27.090 –> 00:45:28.710 Daniel Pierce: yeah and.00:45:29.880 –> 00:45:40.020 Daniel Pierce: And then I did a book on Community of hazel creek and swine county which was displaced and then there was a long, long controversy about the road to nowhere.00:45:41.430 –> 00:45:45.420 Daniel Pierce: There in that in that county that was that was resolved, you know, maybe 10 years ago.00:45:46.680 –> 00:45:49.170 Daniel Pierce: Finally, after 50 years or so.00:45:50.220 –> 00:45:52.620 Daniel Pierce: And that's just a really interesting community and.00:45:54.990 –> 00:46:01.440 Daniel Pierce: And kind of a legendary Community it's kind of now it's more kind of a legend is a trout fishing destination, but.00:46:01.680 –> 00:46:02.640 Joseph McElroy: yeah good job fish.00:46:02.880 –> 00:46:03.960 Daniel Pierce: yeah yeah.00:46:05.310 –> 00:46:12.870 Daniel Pierce: And then the, the most recent when I did I can kind of see in the background, there i'll leave my head over is a poster by.00:46:13.920 –> 00:46:25.050 Daniel Pierce: an artist graphic card is by the name of Joe Anderson gentlemen, our friends, when I lived in nashville 30 years ago, and then we lost touch with one another and.00:46:27.300 –> 00:46:29.850 Daniel Pierce: He went on to a very successful career.00:46:31.050 –> 00:46:41.580 Daniel Pierce: Start his own company and and then he gave up basically its advertising business that just do poster art full time and he has an incredible business.00:46:42.330 –> 00:47:00.210 Daniel Pierce: is best selling posters or national park posters and so he did a book in 2016 for the for the hundredth anniversary National Park service on all the national parks and use this poster art in the sun did the text and so.00:47:01.320 –> 00:47:06.990 Daniel Pierce: I brought in you and CA to do a program about art and the national parks and.00:47:08.010 –> 00:47:27.090 Daniel Pierce: Over dinner, he asked me if I would be interested in doing a book with him and on the smokies, and so I said sure, and so we made about seven seven or eight trips into the smokies had some great adventures sell some really cool places it was it was so much fun to take him and his son.00:47:28.710 –> 00:47:32.730 Daniel Pierce: Around to see a lot of these places that had meant so much to me.00:47:33.840 –> 00:47:46.740 Daniel Pierce: And I learned a lot in the process, but anyway that turned into a book called the illustrated guide to the great smoky mountain National Park, and which is solving all the bookstores now, this is a great kind of coffee table book, so it was a real.00:47:46.740 –> 00:47:47.250 departure.00:47:48.630 –> 00:47:58.710 Daniel Pierce: And so that was that was so much fun and we had so much fun doing them trips together and all that you know and again, you know doing quote research in.00:48:00.720 –> 00:48:01.440 Daniel Pierce: The park and.00:48:02.340 –> 00:48:05.190 Daniel Pierce: Then that morphed into one that just came out.00:48:06.240 –> 00:48:15.540 Daniel Pierce: This is an illustrated guide to the to the grand circle of Arizona and utah and so its southern utah.00:48:16.650 –> 00:48:17.460 Joseph McElroy: niche itself.00:48:17.730 –> 00:48:18.330 yeah.00:48:19.620 –> 00:48:23.220 Daniel Pierce: yeah that was just out and, but that was so much fun we.00:48:26.040 –> 00:48:28.260 Joseph McElroy: had some fun books, I saw that you Co.00:48:28.260 –> 00:48:33.870 Joseph McElroy: wrote a book debating the merits of NASCAR versus college football in the south, so.00:48:35.340 –> 00:48:35.820 Joseph McElroy: How did that.00:48:37.620 –> 00:48:40.980 Joseph McElroy: come out about what was the conclusion.00:48:41.880 –> 00:48:44.250 Daniel Pierce: Well, I won, but.00:48:44.910 –> 00:48:48.690 Daniel Pierce: It was actually a debate, you know that was done on the.00:48:49.950 –> 00:49:04.380 Daniel Pierce: South Carolina public radio, which was broadcast all over I think a lot, it was it was a series called tell about the south, and it was you know they brought on to scholars to discuss or debate some issue so.00:49:05.640 –> 00:49:16.200 Daniel Pierce: So getting the party to Jackson who's was from Jacksonville state and Alabama did the football side, and I did the NASCAR side and so.00:49:17.520 –> 00:49:18.690 Daniel Pierce: I got whipped him but.00:49:19.470 –> 00:49:30.240 Joseph McElroy: Alright cool and then you what have you books and I didn't find out which one you tell me one the Western North Carolina historical association outstayed achievement award which one was the book.00:49:30.720 –> 00:49:35.040 Daniel Pierce: Well, that was just that achievement awards is kind of a lifetime achievement.00:49:35.070 –> 00:49:36.210 Joseph McElroy: Over the lifetime of cheese and.00:49:36.210 –> 00:49:37.530 Daniel Pierce: Whatever book yeah.00:49:37.980 –> 00:49:41.010 Joseph McElroy: yeah okay well it's it's it's Nice, I mean.00:49:41.250 –> 00:49:41.610 Daniel Pierce: you've got.00:49:41.700 –> 00:49:45.360 Joseph McElroy: Great titles I think it's really great, but I also think that.00:49:47.460 –> 00:49:52.530 Joseph McElroy: That you are, you are you're very passionate about eight equal rights and racial diversity.00:49:53.940 –> 00:50:11.730 Joseph McElroy: And you know, and you know our associate Bob plot, you know it is a mutual friend wrote about a great book about his son and about the story of wmc are the railroad the mercury branch railroad built almost entirely by conflict Labor contract Labor.00:50:14.910 –> 00:50:22.290 Joseph McElroy: And it was a brutally inhumane form of legalized slavery, supported by both political parties for two decades.00:50:22.620 –> 00:50:37.050 Joseph McElroy: yeah few people are aware of this and the sacrifice made people to open up w Western North Carolina to the outside world, you are leading a committee dedicated honor to these inmates the railroad incarcerated Committee, can you tell us about that.00:50:37.530 –> 00:50:40.200 Daniel Pierce: yeah so I live at ridgecrest which is.00:50:41.370 –> 00:50:45.720 Daniel Pierce: One of the most storied section of the railroad.00:50:46.770 –> 00:50:51.930 Daniel Pierce: And the big roadblock to building railroad into Western North Carolina was.00:50:53.370 –> 00:50:56.040 Daniel Pierce: What was called a sua know upgrade or.00:50:57.390 –> 00:51:01.800 Daniel Pierce: Or the mountain division, the railroad so it was so hard to.00:51:04.710 –> 00:51:14.700 Daniel Pierce: So it's about a Three Mile stretch as the crow flies but it's it's nine miles a railroad so it twists and turns up the mountain there are seven tunnels in that section.00:51:16.020 –> 00:51:20.670 Daniel Pierce: It took three years, using over 3000.00:51:22.080 –> 00:51:25.980 Daniel Pierce: incarcerated libraries in the in the north Carolina state penitentiary.00:51:27.210 –> 00:51:28.200 Joseph McElroy: Basically, slavery.00:51:29.040 –> 00:51:36.090 Daniel Pierce: Yes, and it was it was it was brutal and again they're using nitroglycerin it's very dangerous work.00:51:37.140 –> 00:51:39.450 Daniel Pierce: Their crap together in horrible conditions.00:51:42.630 –> 00:51:43.590 Daniel Pierce: And we know.00:51:45.060 –> 00:51:58.350 Daniel Pierce: From the records that at least 139 of these people died in the process and countless other injuries and you know you know, probably permanent injuries as well we just don't know.00:51:58.980 –> 00:52:00.840 Daniel Pierce: yeah but there was no.00:52:01.920 –> 00:52:15.720 Daniel Pierce: there's really no I mean there have been a few books written and some you know there's a little awareness, but there's no public recognition there's a and so a group of us.00:52:17.460 –> 00:52:31.950 Daniel Pierce: Actually kind of started on my front porch over breakfast with a friend of mine, whose name is Steve little and he's a lawyer and the Mayor of Marion North Carolina but a big railroad buff and he's been fascinated by this section a railroad since he was a kid.00:52:33.360 –> 00:52:40.410 Daniel Pierce: And so we put We contacted some folks and put together a committee of people from McDowell county and bumping county.00:52:42.240 –> 00:52:42.720 Daniel Pierce: To.00:52:43.800 –> 00:52:58.920 Daniel Pierce: build a memorial, and so it, you know it really we you know, put it was kinda like a little rascals you know we didn't really know what you're doing you know it's gonna let let's put on a show and but we didn't have a clue as to what we're doing, and so we just kind of.00:52:59.970 –> 00:53:18.600 Daniel Pierce: You know what one of our committee members put together a website and we just started contacting people and got some good publicity and Western North a lot of historical associations partner with us and we were able to put a you know, a donate now button on the thing and.00:53:20.100 –> 00:53:23.970 Daniel Pierce: They started coming in and for we knew it was OK, now we.00:53:24.390 –> 00:53:29.880 Joseph McElroy: We got the money you know a lot of people here remember the railroads back in the day and my great grandfather.00:53:31.170 –> 00:53:37.350 Joseph McElroy: was an engineer for the logging railroads and my man, that was a brutal brutal brutal business.00:53:37.470 –> 00:53:43.320 Joseph McElroy: yeah yeah and the slaves, the slave Labor prison Labor got the worst of it, so I think it's a good thing that you're doing.00:53:44.700 –> 00:53:47.820 Joseph McElroy: And I appreciate it, you know we're getting close to the end here.00:53:49.620 –> 00:54:01.200 Joseph McElroy: And I want you to have the opportunity to shout out anything we haven't mentioned or where people can look up your books or get in contact with you or however you want them to remember from this this this podcast.00:54:01.890 –> 00:54:10.860 Daniel Pierce: Well yeah i'm always looking for folks to check out, I would encourage folks to check out Anderson design group.00:54:11.460 –> 00:54:26.850 Daniel Pierce: Has a coffee table books and it's just an incredible site with all you know if you love the smokies and you want to have something on your wall is posters are just incredible and so I would encourage you to do that to patronize the park.00:54:28.020 –> 00:54:38.190 Daniel Pierce: gift shops that con lefty and in Bryson city and all over the great smoky mountain National Park I'm on there I'm on their board and so.00:54:39.240 –> 00:54:43.560 Daniel Pierce: Just leads, you know come back to the park in a great way and they sell my book, so.00:54:44.850 –> 00:54:46.350 Joseph McElroy: Are you on Facebook or anything?00:54:46.830 –> 00:54:47.130 Daniel Pierce: But.00:54:47.430 –> 00:54:48.690 Joseph McElroy: Are you on Facebook you.00:54:49.350 –> 00:54:54.360 Daniel Pierce: know you know I'm not I haven't done social media as well.00:54:55.350 –> 00:55:00.210 Daniel Pierce: Okay I've done in the past, but it just kind of eats up your life and so.00:55:01.800 –> 00:55:06.210 Daniel Pierce: And so I don't but, but I would also encourage folks to.00:55:09.030 –> 00:55:12.720 Daniel Pierce: check out rail rei l dot.org.00:55:13.950 –> 00:55:30.990 Daniel Pierce: Which is our website for the rail project, one of the really cool things just real quickly we've done recently is to bring in human remains detection dogs and ground penetrating radar and have located some mass graves.00:55:32.010 –> 00:55:43.650 Daniel Pierce: Which is is is sad and tragic but we're going to be able to, we are looking for funds to be able to mark those places and you know.00:55:44.730 –> 00:55:51.480 Daniel Pierce: do what we can and you know we can't bring those people back, but it's it's important to work I think so.00:55:51.630 –> 00:55:58.380 Joseph McElroy: Thank you so much for being on the show you know I enjoy the books that you read you're written and.00:55:58.860 –> 00:56:08.670 Joseph McElroy: I've read a little bit of the corner of the JAR and bring some others of yours, and I look forward to seeing what you do in the future, and now we should keep in touch, so thank you for being on the show.00:56:09.030 –> 00:56:10.350 Daniel Pierce: But enjoyed it thoroughly.00:56:11.580 –> 00:56:22.380 Joseph McElroy: This i

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Join us for a podcast episode with Garret Woodward. Tune in to hear about his coverage of the local music scene and his conversation with the Legendary Musician Raymond Fairchild.Garret Woodward is an award-winning journalist, author, events promoter, and musician now living in Waynesville, N.C. A native of upstate New York, he was a college track star. After graduating with a degree in Journalism and working across the country in a variety of Journalism jobs, he became a weekly Columnist for Smoky Mountain News in 2012, and later also a columnist for Smoky Mountain Living. Best known for his interviews with musicians and compelling human-interest stories, Garret is also the author of two books and is a regular contributor to Rolling Stone magazine while also promoting live music events with his own newly formed company. A popular past guest on our show, Garret returns today to discuss his books, his music, and the Legendary Musician Raymond Fairchild. He will also mention some new exciting projects and catch up on post-pandemic event plans.Don't miss this fun interview!Tune in for this fun conversation at TalkRadio.nyc or watch the Facebook Livestream by clicking here.Show NotesSegment 1Starting off today's episode, Joseph mentions his very own Meadowlark Motel, which is the sponsor for the show and some upcoming events. On March 26th, renowned author and General Manager at the motel for the Meadowlark Smoky Mountain Heritage Center, Bob Plott, wil be doing a seminar about the history of hunting in the Smokies along with a barbeque dinner and live music! He also mentions a fly fishing camp weekend on April 15-17. Joseph introduces today's guest, Garret Woodward, an award-winning journalist, author, events promoter, and musician now living in Waynesville, N.C. Garret is also the author of two books and is a regular contributor to Rolling Stone magazine while also promoting live music events with his own newly formed company. He is also a native of Upstate New York. Garret still works for the Rolling Stone magazine. He is currently working on writing about the state of bluegrass music. Garret and Joseph share their love for interacting with people. Garret says that even if this wasn't his job, he would still be talking to everyone and asking questions.Segment 2Garret speaks about having an older father and because of this, he was able to learn about much older music that his father listened to as well as what it was like for his father to grow up during WWII. he also talks with Joseph about coming to live in the Smokies which he thought would only be temporary. Garret speaks about running a company where he is looking to give more attention to quality live music in West Asheville, North Carolina. He also talks about meeting Darren Nicholson from Balsam Range to interview him while just arriving in North Carolina literally minutes ago without having moved in yet into his apartment. They discuss more about the music scene in the Smoky Mountains. Garret also says that going to breweries, restaurants and other locations are where the music comes alive.Segment 3Garret talks about his books. He is also currently working on a book about bluegrass legend Raymond Fairchild who was an American banjo player. Garret was able to receive a grant from the North Carolina Arts Council to write the book. Joseph and Garret both knew Raymond and reminisced about the kind of person he was. Garret recalls interviewing Raymond early in his career. Garret's experience was great considering that Raymond didn't take a liking to any media. Raymond enjoyed talking to Garret. They had a connection that was special, especially with their passion for bluegrass music. Garret says that Raymond was a sweet man when you really got the chance to know him. For the title of the book, Garret says that he doesn't know the exact title yet but it will most likely be called Lord I'm Coming Home: The legend and Lore of Raymond Fairchild.Segment 4Coming back from the final break, Garret speaks about recently learning to play the guitar. He really loves it and started learning during the early part of the pandemic. Joseph mentions his speakeasy and the motel where people also come together for music and tells Garret that he can come by anytime to play music. Garret also talks about collecting vintage guitars. Every guitar he says has a different vibe and feeling. On the Facebook live video, he shows us one of his guitars, a 1940s Rotary Deluxe Parlor Guitar. It is beautifully decorated and Joseph was very excited to see it. Garret is also excited to hear that Joseph will have Jim Lauderdale, Darren Nicholson, and Charles Humphrey III to run the fly fishing camp. During this weekend long event, they'll also play some tunes around a campfire. It's all about being connected with the outdoors and more! You can learn more about it by visiting meadowlarkmotel.com. To learn more about Garret Woodward, you can go to smokymountainnews.com and follow him @garretkwoodward on Instagram.

Jessica Kaufman loves passing on what she knows so much that she created a masters degree in Craft Education. She has experience in various mediums both as a maker and a teacher including knitting, group harmony singing, hand dying and developing craft focused businesses. After years leading the craft cabin at the camp where she worked, she realized she could take all she did to order, organize and teach at camp and use it as a model for creating her own business. You can now visit her storefront Waxon Batik & Hand Dying Studio in West Asheville, NC and try your own hand at tie-dye and ice-dying or shop for ready-made garments and homegoods. She reminds us that learning new things is sometimes a bouncing back and forth between independent exploration and time spent learning from master makers and that when you are making it's ok to keep some things just for you. Learn more about Jessica and her work here: Websites: https://www.waxonstudio.com https://www.balabustagear.com Instagram: @happygocrafty @waxonstudio @balabustagear All things Fain House: -Signup for our email list: www.bit.ly/FainHouse -Website: https://afainhouse.com -Instagram: @fainhouse & @fainhouseradio -Donate to support this podcast: https://paypal.me/anniefain?locale.x=en_US Your Quote for the Day: “Everyone who's ever taken a shower has had an idea. It's the person who gets out of the shower, dries off and does something about it who makes a difference.” — Nolan Bushnell."

I am joined with the ladies of WACKO. This week I spoke with Katie and Margaret, two of the founding members of the West Asheville Canoe and Kayak Organization. Follow them at https://www.instagram.com/wackoff.icial/ They will be hosting a viewing party in Asheville on February 19th, for more information go to NPFF.org/tix Join them on FB with the link below https://m.facebook.com/groups/378096802757228

A self described "dumpster-folk / thrift store Americana duo", Mallory Graham and Scott Tyler (Plus 2 dogs & 1 hamster) have been zig-zagging across the country sharing their music and art. And now they are coming back to Asheville for one show this weekend. Matt Mittan sits down to talk about the last year and a half, their latest album and their upcoming show on Dec 4th at Isis Music Hall in West Asheville.For more information visit https://www.theroughandtumble.com/Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/Mittan)

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This was my first in person podcast interview at our tasting lounge in West Asheville. Regina and I had a great time talking about why a photographer is more than just a photographer - they are with you during the day more than anyone else - even your fiance.Top 3 Takeaways: 1. Your photographer is with you during intimate moments - make sure they are a good fit not just in style, but in personality.2. Burnout is real: as wedding vendors we need to take care of ourselves so that we can take care of our clients. Regina is still stoked after every wedding, just ask her husband!3. Consider finding a mentor if you are new to the industry. You can learn from their mistakes and achieve success quicker than doing it on your own.https://www.loveincolorphotography.com/This podcast episode was hosted by Bryce Bjornson, owner of Jack's 47 Mobile Bar Co. If you care about your guests' experience and your venue doesn't have on site bar services - we could be a good fit for you. Check availability and pricing at https://www.jacks47.com/

In this episode of BPR News Presents: The Porch, we talk with - Emma Johnson, the climate science fellow for The Pulitzer Center On Crisis Reporting. She's been examining how climate change is hurting Western North Carolina's famed trout fishing, and whether the pandemic has slowed or continued the damage. Dr. Edward Lopez, the director of Western Carolina University's Center for the Study of Free Enterprise , which recently put out a report looking at North Carolina's potential for economic recovery post-pandemic. He's joined by Emma Blair Fedison, a graduate student at George Mason University, who also worked on the study. Cicely Rogers and Toshia Sitton, of the REGAL Learning Pod at Pisgah View Apartments in West Asheville. REGAL -- which stands for Relevant Education Grows All Learners - is a framework that aims to support students of color by offering an inclusive learning space, led by adults in their own community. Six students from Asheville City Schools meet regularly at the

CBI029  - The Secret Life of Tea and How to Pour the Perfect Cup with Jessie Dean   Jessie Dean is a West Asheville mom and traveler who's on a mission to create the best cups of tea using locally-sou

CBI029  - The Secret Life of Tea and How to Pour the Perfect Cup with Jessie Dean   Jessie Dean is a West Asheville mom and traveler who’s on a mission to create the best cups of tea using locally-sourced ingredients. Steeped by the desire to promote a local culture of tea, Jessie founded the Asheville Tea Company in 2015. The company spearheads a farm-to-teacup movement by partnering with local and regional farms, highlighting the full flavors of Asheville and Southern Appalachia.   Jessie joins me today to explain how to make the perfect cup of tea. She shares some tips and tricks on setting the perfect water temperature without using tea thermometers. She reveals the biggest problem that persists in the tea industry and what the Asheville Tea Company is doing to address it. She shares how traveling inspires her to make unique tea blends and describes how to make a cup of loose tea. She also shares her advice to people who want to get to know tea better, as well as some tips on pairing food and tea.         This week on Consuming the Craft: The stigma about tea Tips for a better cup of tea The perfect temperature and steeping time for green and black tea Why you shouldn’t steep longer if you want a stronger cup Jessie’s Lemon Yaupon Blend The tea industry’s biggest problem and why the Asheville Tea Company doesn’t use additives in their blends Booze Clues: Not Too Early For Scotch The difference that water makes on a cup of tea The best way to store tea The inspirations behind the Asheville Tea Company’s blends How to make a cup of loose leaf tea Jessie’s advice to people who want to explore tea How to pair food and tea     Connect with Jessie Dean:   Asheville Tea Company Asheville Tea Company on Facebook Asheville Tea Company on Instagram Asheville Tea Company on Pinterest Jessie Dean on LinkedIn         This episode is brought to you by…   McConnell Farms - Taste the Way You Remember. Enjoy homemade ciders and ice cream made from only the best produce on the market. Visit the McConnell Farms website to learn more about our seasonal inventory and delicious creations you can make with our homegrown produce.   Thanks for tuning into today’s episode of Consuming the Craft. If you enjoyed this episode, head over to Apple Podcasts and subscribe so you never miss an episode. Don’t forget to leave us a review to help us reach even more craft beverage enthusiasts!

A tale of two moms + polar opposite homes, first love in an evangelical/charismatic Christian culture, and the first time I ever morally betrayed myself. This episode is part of our new sound-scored intimate short-story sessions for this season of The Ruby Hour.   To see the visual story of this episode and see a home video clip from that summer, check out the video + episode extras here: https://www.rubyriotcreatives.com/blog/mom-life-first-love-moral-betrayal   This episode was recorded and produced in our dear friends' Davíd and Shea's AirBnB tree-top getaway in West Asheville -- if you're looking for an amazing mountain getaway - check out their sweet place: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/8362668    For the family I mention in this episode, you know who you are, I love you, thank you for the beauty you've added to my life.

A woman whose racist video rants and attack on a Black teenager and woman in a hijab made international news has been struck by a vehicle. Rachel Dawn Ruit of Terry's Gap Road in Henderson County suffered life-threatening injuries after being struck by an Asheville Fire Department pickup truck July 13 in West Asheville, according to police and a witness. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/seiji-hito/support

A community garden in West Asheville is preparing to sow a different sort of seed -- The Burton Street Community Peace Garden received funding to expand its green jobs training program for youth in the historically Black neighborhood.

A community garden in West Asheville is preparing to sow a different sort of seed -- The Burton Street Community Peace Garden received funding to expand its green jobs training program for youth in the historically Black neighborhood.

Marc joins Matt and Michele for a check-in conversation as well to talk about how he and other West Asheville businesses are adjusting and trying to sustain during the Quarantine Economy.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/Mittan)

Episode #29 of the Ground Shots Podcast features a conversation with Marc Williams, who is based out of Asheville, North Carolina. I took a trip to the Southeast this past September, where I visited my folks in southern Virginia and friends in Asheville, NC. Marc and I met up for an interview in West Asheville, NC, in the backyard of our mutual friend. I've known Marc since 2012 or so, when I moved to Asheville to attend herbalism school.   According to the Plants and Healers website: Marc Williams is an ethnobiologist. He has studied the people, plant, mushroom, microbe connection intensively while learning to employ botanicals and other life forms for food, medicine, and beauty. His training includes a Bachelor's degree in Environmental Studies concentrating in Sustainable Agriculture with a minor in Business from Warren Wilson College and a Master's degree in Appalachian Studies concentrating in Sustainable Development with a minor in Geography and Planning from Appalachian State University. He has spent over two decades working at a multitude of restaurants and various farms. He has travelled throughout 30 countries in Central/North/South America and Europe and all 50 of the United States. Marc has visited over 200 botanical gardens and research institutions during this process while taking tens of thousands of pictures of representative plants. He is also Executive Director of Plants and Healers International www.plantsandhealers.org. Marc has taught hundreds of classes to thousands of people about the marvelous world of humans and their interface with other organisms while working with over 70 organizations in the last few years and online at the website here. His greatest hope is that this effort may help improve our current challenging global ecological situation.   In this conversation with Marc, we talk about: the green path as a way to live life and as a physical gathering that is nonlinear and open to anyone Frank Cook's influence on the ideas behind the green path way of life what is the green path? fermenting processes, 're-skilling' for living closely to the land, donation based or free plant walks, the sharing that happens at earthskills gatherings, folk schools, botanical gardens, a camp at the rainbow gathering, and more different opportunities for education about the natural world and our connection to it issues around accessibility at earthskills gatherings and with the 'green path' the urgency of 're-localizing' and learning skills of sustainability Asheville, North Carolina as an incubator for the 'green path' the role of permaculture in the 'green path' the importance of pilgrimage and how a pilgrimage can be interpreted in many ways pilgrimage as a form of meditation and rite of passage addressing the reality of how travel has a large environmental footprint, even travel with good intentions! learning skills as a form of activism     Links: 7Song's The Northeast School of Botanical Medicine and CALM first aid camp at the rainbow gathering, mentioned in the podcast: http://7song.com/ Green Path facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/145910154568/ Plants and Healers International: http://www.plantsandhealers.org/ Botany Everyday: http://www.botanyeveryday.com/ The United Plant Savers and Goldenseal Sanctuary: https://unitedplantsavers.org/ The Cabbage School: http://thecabbageschool.net/ Listen to Turtle T. Turtlington's podcast episode (#4) on his pilgrimage walking across California NuMundo: NuMundo https://numundo.org/ podcast hub, and of sedge & salt blog where you can find photo diaries, ethnobotanical plant profiles, more on past podcast guests: http://www.ofsedgeandsalt.com Our Instagram page @goldenberries Join the Ground Shots Podcast Facebook Group to discuss the episodes Subscribe to our newsletter for updates on the Ground Shots Project Theme music: 'Sweat and Splinters' by Mother Marrow Produced by: Opia Creative