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Monday's show featured John Leahy on the weekend sports scene and a preview of this weekend's production of the Thornton Wilder classic “Our Town” at the Concord Auditorium. Joining us in studio were the director of the show Cindy Dickinson and cast members Hannah McCauley who is playing the role of Emily and Jeremy Lent who will portray George. For more info it's communityplayersofconcord.org.
In this episode, our guest, Jeremy Lent, discusses the profound global upheaval in early 2025. We explore themes of hope and grief amid political, cultural, and environmental crises. Lent provides deep insights into systems thinking, emphasizing the importance of interconnectedness and unpredictability in complex systems. The conversation also holds space for the impact of reductionist thinking, the power of technology, and the potential for societal transformation through integrated intelligence. The episode concludes with discussions on individual and systemic change, indigenous wisdom, and the need for a life-affirming future. Jeremy Lent is an author and speaker exploring the root causes of civilization's crises and pathways to a sustainable future. Described by The Guardian's George Monbiot as “one of the greatest thinkers of our age,” he is the author of The Patterning Instinct and The Web of Meaning, which integrate science and traditional wisdom to reimagine our place in the universe. He founded the Deep Transformation Network and Liology Institute to foster an ecological civilization and writes on cultural and political patterns at Patterns of Meaning. Topics 00:00 Introduction 00:52 Introducing Jeremy Lent 01:50 Navigating Hope and Grief 03:18 Systems Thinking and Interconnectedness 10:08 Cultural Narratives and Political Polarization 17:37 Technology's Role in Connection 26:10 Blockchain and Decentralization 27:43 Integrative Intelligence and Human Flourishing 32:32 Indigenous Wisdom and Reciprocity 49:42 Conclusion and Future Engagements Resources Jeremy Lent's Website Deep Transformation Network Patterns of Meaning Fluke: Chance, Chaos, and Why Everything We Do Matters by Brian Klaas Sounds of SAND #108 Thrutopian Dreams: Manda Scott Support the mission of SAND and the production of this podcast by becoming a SAND Member
Om natuur in het hart van mensen te krijgen hebben we verhalen nodig. Over verwondering, veerkracht en vooral: over hoe natuur ons raakt. Wie zijn die verhalenvertellers? En horen wij het verhaal nog wel wat de soorten zelf over onze landschappen vertellen? Daarover spreekt Anthonie in deze aflevering met Rik van der Linden, filmmaker en historicus. Rik besloot in 2020 zijn werk als filmmaker in dienst van de natuur te stellen. Wat bracht hem dat? En hoe gaat hij te werk? Twee films van Rik zijn vanaf 4 november te zien op het Wildlife Film Festival Rotterdam. De Verwonderaars is de openingsfilm van het festival. Het portretteert burgerwetenschappers en hun liefde voor natuur. Waarom doen ze dat? Voor de totstandkoming van de film Het Vergeten Leven van Nederland speelde Toekomst voor Natuur een cruciale rol. Het schetst de historische gelaagdheid van het landschap rond Rotterdam en de gevolgen van razendsnelle ontwikkelingen in de afgelopen decennia. Veel natuur verdween, en het bracht economische welvaart. Tegen welke prijs? En welke plek is er nu nog voor natuur? In deze aflevering zit een winactie voor kaarten van beide films, beschikbaar gesteld door het Wildlife Film Festival Rotterdam. Rik geeft een boekenplank aan leestips. Hij leest graag in drie sporen tegelijk. Over soorten dichtbij huis: ‘De spreeuw' van Koos Dijksterhuis en ‘Insectenrijk' van Aglaia Bouma. Over samenhang tussen soorten en ecosystemen: ‘Darwin in de stad' van Menno Schilthuizen, ‘Atlas van Nederland in het Holoceen' van Peter Vos en de Verkade-albums van Jac. P. Thijsse. Tenslotte filosofisch: ‘The web of meaning' van Jeremy Lent en ‘Een vlecht van heilig gras' van Robin Wall Kemmerer. Anthonie geeft ook een leestip: ‘Copsford' van Walter Murray. We verwijzen in deze aflevering naar aflevering 15 met Marc Argeloo over natuuramnesie en aflevering 20 met Gerard Ouweneel over vogels zijn emotie. We vinden het leuk als je met ons deelt wat deze podcastaflevering je bracht. Of eerdere podcastafleveringen, dat mag natuurlijk ook. Je kunt ons bereiken via onze sociale media, @toekomstnatuur op X en @toekomstvoornatuur op Instagram of door een mailtje te sturen naar toekomstvoornatuur@vlinderstichting.nl.
Welcome back to "Construct Your Life." I'm here with Chase Tolleson, ready to dive into another conversation that's sure to ignite your thinking. Today, we're each picking a topic to explore, focusing on leadership, critical thinking, and how we can better influence ourselves and others. Summary: In this episode, Chase and I discuss the importance of developing deeper layers of thinking, especially as leaders. From learning how to critically analyze situations to understanding the psychology behind people's actions, we cover it all. We explore the significance of allowing your team to grow through problem-solving and the profound impact of being conscious about what influences enter your life. Key Highlights: - The "Hostess Mind": Learn about the analogy of the "Hostess Mind," which highlights the need for leaders to think beyond the first layer of a situation, considering all factors that contribute to an outcome. - Thinking Critically: Understand why it's crucial for leaders to engage in second and third-tier thinking and how this habit can lead to better decision-making and problem-solving. - Influence and Self-awareness: Chase discusses the influence of technology and distractions in modern life and offers insights on how to regain focus and control. - Empowering Your Team: Discover the importance of allowing your team to identify and solve problems independently, promoting growth and confidence. - Positive Inputs: Explore why it's vital to choose constructive and positive inputs in media and interactions, and how these choices impact overall mindset and success. - Book Recommendations: Chase shares book recommendations that provide deeper insights into influence and self-awareness, such as "The Web of Meaning" by Jeremy Lent and Robert Cialdini's "Influence." Remember that everyone wants to reach the top of the mountain; we're just looking at different paths from our unique perspectives. I hope you find value in this chat with Chase—share it with friends, and see you next time!
Jeremy Lent reading from the Tao Te Ching and discussing the importance of interconnectedness, the essence of a life-affirming civilization, and finding meaning beyond the material world. We discuss the complexities of existence, the influence of relationships, and how we can shape a future that values harmony with the environment. Today's guest, Jeremy Lent, is an author, speaker, and founder of the Deep Transformation Network. Described by The Guardian as "one of the greatest thinkers of our age," Jeremy's work investigates the underlying causes of our civilization's existential crisis and explores pathways toward a flourishing, ecological future. His books, The Patterning Instinct and The Web of Meaning, integrate science and traditional wisdom to provide a new vision for humanity's place in the universe. Get book links and resources at http://2pageswithmbs.com and subscribe to the 2 Pages newsletter at https://2pageswithmbs.substack.com. Jeremy Lent reads two pages from Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu. [reading begins at 19:41] Hear us discuss: “The spiritual path is about looking at how things relate to each other rather than focusing on the things themselves.” [08:15] | “The world is a spirit vessel which cannot be acted upon. One who acts on it fails.” [23:00] | “To pursue learning one increases daily. To pursue Tao one decreases daily.” [22:37] | “There is no calamity like not knowing what is enough, and he who knows what is enough will always have enough.” [26:26] | “We are all part of this nonlinear complex system that is human society.” [45:00]
Leven we inderdaad op een historisch keerpunt waarop de mensheid gedwongen wordt heel anders te leven? Wat zal de opvolger van het antropoceen zijn waarin de mens centraal stond? Kan de intelligentie van de natuur ons helpen een nieuwe weg in te slaan? Kunnen we omgaan met de overweldigende complexiteit van de uitdagingen die op ons afkomen? In deze aflevering zetten we de hoogtepunten van een jaar lang gesprekken met pioniers en denkers voor Future Affairs op een rij. Hoe heeft deze podcastserie onszelf nou veranderd? En wat komt er de komende decennia op ons af?Met fragmenten uit de afleveringen met: Philipp Blom, Toby Ord, René ten Bos, Haroon Sheikh, Marleen Stikker, Bernardo Kastrup, Jalila Essaidi, Bob Hendrikx en Jeremy Lent.Abonneer je hier op de Future Affairs nieuwsbrief: nrc.nl/futureaffairsPresentatie: Jessica van der Schalk & Wouter van NoortProductie: Ruben PestMontage: Gal Tsadok-HaiZie het privacybeleid op https://art19.com/privacy en de privacyverklaring van Californië op https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Future Affairs LIVE: De moderne samenleving maakt blind voor verbindingen tussen mens en natuur, denkt schrijver Jeremy Lent. Hij onderzoekt de existentiële crisis die de westerse mens in zijn greep heeft gekregen en schetst een nieuw kader van betekenisgeving dat ons in een andere richting kan sturen.Lent integreert de laatste bevindingen uit de biologie, ecologie, kwantumfysica, neurowetenschappen met oude inzichten uit het taoïsme, boeddhisme, neo-confucianisme en het wereldbeeld van inheemse culturen. Hierover schreef hij het boek The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe.Wij spraken hem tijdens Brainwash Festival in Amsterdam over de grote vraag: hoe kunnen we gaan ervaren wat wetenschap ons allang vertelt: dat we verbonden zijn met elkaar, de natuur en het universum?Gast: Jeremy LentPresentatie: Jessica van der Schalk & Wouter van NoortProductie: Ruben PestMontage: Gal Tsadok-HaiZie het privacybeleid op https://art19.com/privacy en de privacyverklaring van Californië op https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Ep. 142 (Part 2 of 2) | Award-winning author of The Web of Meaning and founder of the Deep Transformation Network, Jeremy Lent, relates how his discovery of systems thinking opened the door to a whole new way of making sense of the world and illumined his in depth exploration of what creates meaning. In looking into what forms concepts like God, soul, humanity, nature, and science, Jeremy came to understand the thinking that has led to the existential crisis we face now, then began to explore what it would take to break out of the worldview that has caused so much destruction on so many levels. Jeremy integrates systems thinking with concepts from evolutionary biology, neuroscience, ecology, and traditional and indigenous wisdom, forming a holistic view of science, where “maybe the distinction between science and spirituality isn't really valid.”Jeremy's heartfelt intention is to act as translator—to make it enjoyable for people to explore difficult concepts like consciousness and evolutionary biology they might otherwise steer away from—as well as be a catalyst for large-scale transformation. His vision of a potential future “ecological civilization” builds on the evolutionary success of life itself—ecosystems living in mutual symbiosis—and includes the idea of “islands of coherence” which would provide a bridge from a disintegrating society to a new and flourishing one. Systems thinking, like indigenous wisdom, recognizes the deep connectedness of all things, a realization, Jeremy points out, that leads to the knowing that nothing is inevitable and the choices we make matter. Jeremy leaves us with a sense of agency and of liberation, as well as a sense of responsibility to work together in the shaping of a life-affirming, sustainable future. Recorded June 20, 2024.“Based on a deep understanding of systems thinking, there is nothing inevitable about any of this.”(For Apple Podcast users, click here to view the complete show notes on the episode page.)Topics & Time Stamps – Part 2Can flourishing-of-the-commons ideas be scaled beyond small, local ventures? (01:25)Polycentric self-organization: a large region in Syria has instituted a form of government called democratic confederalism (03:53)Where are the most strategic places to intervene? (08:45)Becoming a transformation catalyst—amplifying the entire system of people moving toward a life-affirming future (09:59)Neoliberalism is a great model for successfully transforming a culture's dominant ideas and creating fundamental change (13:13)Is there any hope of a rapid evolutionary leap to a more beautiful, more functional system? (17:18)Breaking through to the next level will require self-organizing and setting conditions for prosocial behavior on a global level (21:23)Understanding that the choices we make matter gives us a sense of agency, liberation, and responsibility (24:46)It's important to move away from attachment to outcome—just do the right thing to do (28:18)The necessary perspectival shifts will only occur in people at a post-conventional stage of development (30:51)Animate intelligence is an intuitive system that allows people to feel their heart (33:24)Creating a life-affirming future (37:14)Rupert Sheldrake's morphogenetic fields (39:05)From a systems perspective, these...
Ep. 141 (Part 1 of 2) | Award-winning author of The Web of Meaning and founder of the Deep Transformation Network, Jeremy Lent, relates how his discovery of systems thinking opened the door to a whole new way of making sense of the world and illumined his in depth exploration of what creates meaning. In looking into what forms concepts like God, soul, humanity, nature, and science, Jeremy came to understand the thinking that has led to the existential crisis we face now, then began to explore what it would take to break out of the worldview that has caused so much destruction on so many levels. Jeremy integrates systems thinking with concepts from evolutionary biology, neuroscience, ecology, and traditional and indigenous wisdom, forming a holistic view of science, where “maybe the distinction between science and spirituality isn't really valid.”Jeremy's heartfelt intention is to act as translator—to make it enjoyable for people to explore difficult concepts like consciousness and evolutionary biology they might otherwise steer away from—as well as be a catalyst for large-scale transformation. His vision of a potential future “ecological civilization” builds on the evolutionary success of life itself—ecosystems living in mutual symbiosis—and includes the idea of “islands of coherence” which would provide a bridge from a disintegrating society to a new and flourishing one. Systems thinking, like indigenous wisdom, recognizes the deep connectedness of all things, a realization, Jeremy points out, that leads to the knowing that nothing is inevitable and the choices we make matter. Jeremy leaves us with a sense of agency and of liberation, as well as a sense of responsibility to work together in the shaping of a life-affirming, sustainable future. Recorded June 20, 2024.“Every aspect of our world today is founded ultimately on the worldview of reductionism…If we were to design or co-create a civilization built on a sense of deep connectedness, it would look very different.”(For Apple Podcast users, click here to view the complete show notes on the episode page.)Topics & Time Stamps – Part 1Introducing Jeremy Lent, award-winning author, integrator, founder of the Deep Transformation Network (01:15)What does meaning come from? Where do mainstream concepts like God, soul, humanity, and nature come from? (02:58)What's considered valid science turns out to be reductionism and Jeremy's subsequent discovery of systems science & complexity science (05:25)Jeremy's intention is to act as translator—make it a joy for people to explore concepts like consciousness and evolutionary biology (08:50)The concept of reductionism (09:36)Where reductionism goes wrong and why systems thinking is so important: studying the relationship between things (12:19)Richard Dawkins attributes everything to our genes, but the reality is far more complex (13:53)What the modern worldview of reductionism has done to our society (16:59) Jeremy's new book, Ecological Civilization, applies the principles of ecology that life itself evolved to every aspect of our civilization (18:43)The difference between the metacrisis and the polycrisis: is there something meta, above all the crises, that we need to be aware of? (20:44)The reductionist worldview creates a separatist world that allows for resource exploitation: capitalism is the economic...
In this conversation with Jeremy Lent, we dive deep into topics such as systems thinking, the ecological civilization concept, and the potential for transforming global policies to align with a holistic understanding of interconnectedness. Sponsored by Qualia Senolytic: https://qualialife.com/podcastoffer. Use code podcast when you shop Qualia Senolytic for 15% off your order. Get in touch. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/qualialife. Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/qualialife. Email: support@qualialife.com.
In this episode, Daniel and Philipa are joined by award-winning permaculture teacher and designer, Morag Gamble, and best-selling author and integrator, Jeremy Lent. Together, they discuss the urgent need to realign our patterns of meaning with the life-sustaining patterns of our planet to create thriving, regenerative cultures. An award-winning permaculture teacher and designer, Morag Gamble has been at the forefront of the permaculture revolution for over 30 years. She is the founder of the Permaculture Education Institute and the Executive Director of Ethos Foundation, a permaculture education charity for refugees. She hosts the Sense-Making in a Changing World podcast, exploring what a thriving one-planet way of life lookd like with leading ecological thinkers, activists, authors, designers and practitioners.Jeremy Lent is the best-selling author of The Patterning Instinct and The Web of Meaning. His work investigates the underlying causes of our civilization's existential crisis, and explores pathways toward a life-affirming future. He has been described by Guardian journalist George Monbiot as “one of the greatest thinkers of our age,”Explore links and resources, and find out more at https://www.thersa.org/oceania/regeneration-rising-podcast Join the Re-generation: https://www.thersa.org/regenerative-futuresReduced Fellowship offer: In celebration of the launch of Regeneration Rising, we're offering a special promotion for listeners to join our global community of RSA Fellows. Our Fellowship is a network of over 31,000 innovators, educators, and entrepreneurs committed to finding better ways of thinking, acting, and delivering change. To receive a 25% discount off your first year of membership and waived registration fee, visit thersa.org and use the discount code RSAPOD on your application form. Note, cannot be used in conjunction with other discount offers, such as Youth Fellowship. For more information email fellowship@rsa.org.uk.
The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe . Are you curious, even sceptically intrigued, about Artificial Intelligence's implications for humanity? Look no further than Jeremy Lent's latest book, "The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe." . In part 3 of this mind-bending podcast interview with Jeremy Lent, we examine the Birth of the Cybernetic Self and the Bifurcation of Humanity in an AI world. . Join the discussion on waking up from spiritual anesthesia and understanding the positive evolution of negative entropy. . Don't miss out on this thought-provoking, reality-shifting conversation with Jeremy Lent. . His latest book is titled, The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe . What if there's a Web of Meaning connecting our past, present, and future of who we are to all life forms? . If you have ever considered such a possibility, you will love where we are going in this series of 3 Episodes with our esteemed guest, Jeremy Lent. He is a uniquely fascinating individual who is deeply curious about exploring reality from a unique point of view. . Jeremy Lent refers to himself as an author and integrator. I promise that you and I will learn a lot from this brilliant man's insights. Jeremy writes about the underlying patterns of Meaning in history that have led our current civilization to a crisis of unsustainability. . His latest book is titled, The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe. It offers an integrated worldview that could allow humanity to thrive sustainably on a healthy planet into the indefinite future. . http://JeremyLent.com . Part 3) Bifurcation of Humanity and The Birth of The Cybernetic-Self Going Past the Point of No Return What Makes Something "REAL" Where Have All the Animals Gone Corporate Hypnosis Waking up From the Spiritual Anesthesia Why All Issues Are Systemic The Great Unfolding The Positive Evolution of Negative Entropy The Omega Point of Humanity The Bifurcation of Humanity and The Birth of The Cybernetic-Self . #AI #humanity #cyberneticself #JeremyLent Dov Baron's brand new course has just been released on coursifyx.com/belonging ------------- . Titled: "CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING." The course is separated into eight sections that will take you by the hand and walk you through exactly how to create a culture of belonging. . Because: CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING MAXIMIZES PERSONAL AND CORPORATE SUCCESS. Get Ready to strap on the tanks and Dive Deep into, What it Takes to Create a Culture of Belonging in your organization! Curious to know more? coursifyx.com/belonging . "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe" #videopodcast #leadership #leadershipdevelopment #emotionsourcecode #neuroscience #emotional #meaning #emotional #logic #culture #curiosity #humanbehavior #purpose
The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe . Humans are wired to seek meaning in everything we encounter, even if we're not entirely accurate. But what if we could explore Meaning at an even deeper level? . What if we could truly connect science and ancient wisdom to understand our place in the universe? What if there's a Web of Meaning that connects us to all life forms? . Let's get curious and explore the possibilities. Join the discussion and let's delve deeper into the mysteries of #meaning, #curiosity, #science, #wisdom, and the #universe.. His latest book is titled The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe . What if there's a Web of Meaning connecting our past, present, and future of who we are to all life forms? . If you have ever considered such a possibility, you will love where we are going in this series of 3 Episodes with our esteemed guest, Jeremy Lent. He is a uniquely fascinating individual who is deeply curious about exploring reality from a unique point of view. . Jeremy Lent refers to himself as an author and integrator. I promise that you and I will learn a lot from this brilliant man's insights. Jeremy writes about the underlying patterns of Meaning in history that have led our current civilization to a crisis of unsustainability. . His latest book is titled, The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe. It offers an integrated worldview that could allow humanity to thrive sustainably on a healthy planet into the indefinite future. . http://JeremyLent.com Part 2) The Great Unfolding The Ship of Theseus When or Where Do we Cease to Be Taoist Physics In Search of The Underlying Order of Nature The Great Debate: Fate or Free Will? Neuroscience and Systems Thinking Discovering the Reflective "I" Animate vs. Conceptual Consciousness Why There Maybe "no point" to it all The Limitations of Reductionist Science The Integrative Self Webber's 3rd Law of Desire . Dov Baron's brand new course has just been released on coursifyx.com/belonging ------------- . Titled: "CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING." The course is separated into eight sections that will take you by the hand and walk you through exactly how to create a culture of belonging. . Because: CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING MAXIMIZES PERSONAL AND CORPORATE SUCCESS. Get Ready to strap on the tanks and Dive Deep into, What it Takes to Create a Culture of Belonging in your organization! Curious to know more? coursifyx.com/belonging . "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe" #videopodcast #leadership #leadershipdevelopment #emotionsourcecode #neuroscience #emotional #meaning #emotional #logic #culture #curiosity #humanbehavior #purpose
The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe . Humans are wired to seek meaning in everything we encounter, even if we're not entirely accurate. But what if we could explore Meaning at an even deeper level? . What if we could connect science and ancient wisdom to understand our place in the universe truly? What if there's a Web of Meaning that connects us to all life forms? . Let's get curious and explore the possibilities. Join the discussion and let's delve deeper into the mysteries of #meaning, #curiosity, #science, #wisdom, and the #universe.. His latest book is titled, The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe . What if there's a Web of Meaning connecting our past, present, and future of who we are to all life forms? . If you have ever considered such a possibility, you will love where we are going on this series of 3 Episodes with our esteemed guest Jeremy Lent. He is a uniquely fascinating individual who is deeply curious about exploring reality from a unique point of view. . Jeremy Lent refers to himself as an author and integrator. I promise that you and I will learn a lot from this brilliant man's insights. Jeremy writes about the underlying patterns of Meaning in history that have led our current civilization to a crisis of unsustainability. . His latest book is titled, The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe. It offers an integrated worldview that could allow humanity to thrive sustainably on a healthy planet into the indefinite future. . http://JeremyLent.com Part 1) Meaning as Connection: What Was, Is, and Will Be Becoming Ecologically Civilized Pressing the Snooze Button on Life Lazy/Convenient Meaning Vs. Curious Meaning Pain as a catalyst Evolving Meaning Through Kindness and Compassion The Interdependent Connection Network of Everything Reductionism or Function of Connectedness Is what was, what is, or will be? Isaac Asimov and The Child in the Photo . Dov Baron's brand new course has just been released on coursifyx.com/belonging ------------- . Titled: "CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING." The course is separated into eight sections that will take you by the hand and walk you through exactly how to create a culture of belonging. . Because: CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING MAXIMIZES PERSONAL AND CORPORATE SUCCESS. Get Ready to strap on the tanks and Dive Deep into, What it Takes to Create a Culture of Belonging in your organization! Curious to know more? coursifyx.com/belonging . "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe" #videopodcast #leadership #leadershipdevelopment #emotionsourcecode #neuroscience #emotional #meaning #emotional #logic #culture #curiosity #humanbehavior #purpose
https://suzannetaylor.substack.com/p/an-essay-contest-its-january-1-2050 ... Jeremy Lent is an author and activist, opening windows of insight into patterns that lead to destruction and regeneration. The Web of Meaning is an amazing book integrating perspectives from modern science and traditional wisdom. Jeremy is also the founder of the Liology Institute, which is fostering a worldview enabling humanity to thrive sustainably on this planet. Jeremy regularly appears on podcasts and YouTube channels around the world. https://www.jeremylent.com/ ... https://deeptransformation.network/feed ... https://www.jeremylent.com/the-web-of-meaning.html ... http://www.liology.org/ ... https://ecociv.org/ ... Support Political Hope::: https://www.patreon.com/politicalhope
As we once again wait for the seasons of warmth and illumination to return- where do you find the light amid the darkness? And then- can we track down the most basic form of energy behind everything in the universe?Thom reads from "The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe" by Jeremy Lent, and also 'The Division of Light and Power' by Dennis Kucinich'.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
In this interview, Jeremy Lent starts by offering an overview of some key ideas he articulates in his book “The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe.” He emphasizes the importance of generating an alternative worldview based on the understanding of our deep interconnection, and the notion of flourishing, particularly flourishing as an integrated organism. On Ecological Civilization, he invites us to visualize how the world could look like if we changed the dominant underlying operating system of our current civilization from one of extraction and exploitation to one that seeks to set the conditions for all beings to flourish on a regenerative Earth. This means envisioning not just changing one aspect, but everything. He stresses that in order to get on the path to an ecological civilization, we can look at life itself and ecosystems and apply that learning to our human societies, such as by cooperating and working together for mutual benefit. Lent makes the point that deep transformation starts with the recognition that our own ways of thinking need to be questioned and changed.
Climate scientist Dr Michael Mann is back- to what extent are aerosols protecting us from carbon heating? What happens if we continue on the same path as today?Plus - Thom reads from "The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe" by Jeremy Lent.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Imagine a world where instead of making money we focus on ecological sustainability and harmony with the natural world.
In „The Web of Meaning“ macht sich Jeremy Lent auf den Weg, das gesamte grundlegende westliche Weltbild zu widerlegen. Er stellt sich gegen Individualismus, gegen wissenschaftlichen Reduktionismus und gegen ein mechanistisches Weltbild. Er zeigt dabei auf, dass der aktuelle Stand der Wissenschaft eigentlich eher der ostasiatischen Philosophie recht gibt, als unserer westlichen.
We're exploring the broader context of a future-fit economy, asking questions like: How do we create the conditions for circular solutions to gain traction? What's holding us back, particularly when we think about our economic systems, and the way companies are set up? In today's episode, I'm talking to Paddy Le Flufy about his book, Building Tomorrow: Averting Environmental Crisis With a New Economic System, which was published in March 2023. Paddy's aim is to work out how we can improve our own society AND improve the lives of the billions of people currently affected by the dominant global systems. In A Circular Economy Handbook, I included a chapter on Enablers and Accelerators for the circular economy, and today we're going to explore a couple of important ideas that fit into those categories – concepts that aren't circular in themselves, but are important ways to help circular approaches have even more impact. Before embarking on this project, in 2015, Paddy had a somewhat different life. After a degree in mathematics at Cambridge University then qualifying as an accountant at KPMG in London, he lived something of a double life. He worked as a finance specialist in London for six months at a time, but then used his money to live in remote places, alongside people whose lives were drastically different from his own – and we'll hear a bit more about that later. Paddy's book is featured on the 2023 Financial Times Best Book of Summer reading list, and has earned praise from Jeremy Lent. “The book aims directly at creating systemic change by providing people with both a holistic vision of a new economic system and the tools with which to build it… Positive real-world examples and potential future developments show how people throughout society can help build the new system. Those that do will be creating a better world.” Paddy will give us an overview of the 6 themes in the book, one of which is the circular economy, and we'll then go a bit deeper with a couple of them, exploring different forms of company structures and learning more about regenerative organisations.
In this wide-ranging interview, first published in 2021, Jeremy Lent discusses his fascinating new book Web of Meaning which combines findings in cognitive science, systems theory and traditional Chinese and Buddhist thought, to develop a framework that integrates both science and meaning in a coherent whole. Jeremy discusses what he sees as an essential problem at the heart of our current worldview: how man is separated from nature which is seen purely as a resource. He highlights a very different perspective, common to many indigenous peoples, how we are interrelated, not just all humans related to each other, but seeing all of the living earth around us all of life as being our relations. Jeremy also shares his long standing criticisms on the structure of the modern corporation and its role in society, in light of the recent Shell climate litigation, and the election of new directors to the board of Exxon, instigated by a small activist investor-which has been called the oil industry's “Black Wednesday.” Jeremy is an award winning author and founder of the nonprofit Liology Institute, dedicated to fostering a worldview that could enable humanity to thrive sustainably on the earth. His writings investigate the underlying causes and the patterns of thought that have led our civilization to its current sustainability crisis. The Patterning Instinct is a cultural history of humanity's search for meaning, traces the deepest dark of foundations of our modern worldview. His most recent book is Web of Meaning: integrating science and traditional wisdom to find our place in the universe.He is the founder of the Deep Transformation Network, a global community exploring pathways to an ecological civilization, and the nonprofit Liology Institute, dedicated to fostering an integrated worldview that could enable humanity to thrive sustainably on the Earth.
We find ourselves living in a time of great complexity and flux, where the very fabric of our societies is being rewoven by the rise of artificial intelligence and the interplay of complex systems. How do we make sense of a world that is undeniably interconnected, with increasingly porous boundaries between nature and culture, human and machine, science and art? Paul Wong is reshaping that conversation, drawing on science, philosophy, and art. Origins Podcast WebsiteFlourishing Commons NewsletterShow Notes:Buckminster Fuller (07:40)Principia Mathematica by Russell and Whitehead (09:00)Peter Kropotkin and Mikhail Bakunin (11:00)Commonwealth Grants Commission (13:10)Range by David Epstein (15:00)David Krakauer (15:20)Claude Shannon and information theory (17:10)Chaos by James Gleick (20:00)Duncan Watts, Barabási Albert-László , and network analysis (24:20)Networks the lingua franca of complex systems (25:20)Stephen Wolfram (25:30)Open Science (28:20)Australian National University School of Cybernetics (28:50)Australian Research Data Commons (29:50)Genevieve Bell (31:20)Ross Ashby's Law of Requisite Variety (32:30)Sara Hendren on Origins and Sketch Model (36:30)What he tells his students (38:00)Alex McDowell on Origins (41:00)The Patterning Instinct by Jeremy Lent and Fritjof Capra (47:30)Tao Te Ching (48:20)Morning routine (49:30)Lightning round (53:40)Book: Special relativity and Dr. SeussPassion: MusicHeart sing: Stitching together cybernetics, complexity, and improvisation Screwed up: Many thingsFind Paul online: https://cybernetics.anu.edu.au/people/paul-wong/'Five-Cut Fridays' five-song music playlist series Paul's playlistLogo artwork by Cristina GonzalezMusic by swelo on all streaming platforms or @swelomusic on social media
Hello Interactors,As I was preparing for my talk at Harvard last month, I was finishing a book called The Patterning Instinct by Jeremy Lent. He explores how culture shapes values, and those values shape history. Hat tip to Kasey Klimes over at rhizome r&d for the recommendation. Lent uncovers the history and evolution of dominant Western culture through the lens of evolutionary biology and neuroscience and the role patterns play in cognitive and cultural development. He then compares it the lesser examined evolution of Eastern, mostly Chinese, culture, philosophy, and scientific history.He found discrepancies in dominant Western thought, and how it sometimes is incongruent with select examples of more recent advances in science. Especially the degree to which the world is increasingly understood as a nested array of interdependent and indeterminate complex systems. Quantum physics, complexity Science, and other various branches of the physical and social sciences, are revealing evidence of a pervasive interconnectedness that can often get lost or overlooked in some more traditional methods and beliefs of dominant Western science and culture.“Divide and conquer” is one such example of how we routinely attempt to simplify to resolve problems. And yet, it seems divisions are what may be contributing to our global problems. Lent's book made me wonder how much Western thinking and culture may be keeping us from solving our most perplexing problems. What happened to ‘united we stand, divided we fall?'As interactors, you're special individuals self-selected to be a part of an evolutionary journey. You're also members of an attentive community so I welcome your participation.Please leave your comments below or email me directly.Now let's go…FRANKENSTEIN V.2Descartes once said, "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." The breaking down of problems does simplify challenges. At the same time, I wonder if divisions can also introduce challenges. Consider the division of today's global crises into economic, social, and environmental problems. It's feasible to divide these even further but is it necessary to resolve them? What if instead of resolution division and partitioning is contributing to our ruin?We're good at division. Economic inequality divides the wealthy from the poor, political polarization has unraveled civil discourse, increased hostility, and a growing distrust of democratic institutions. Climate change exposes these divisions and imbalances as those more vulnerable to its effects suffer more than those most responsible for its existence. This is all amidst an age group divide. Rising housing costs, stagnant wages, and reduced opportunities make it harder for younger people to avoid financial precarity let alone secure family wealth. The gulf between the ‘haves' and ‘have nots' is widening.Cultural polarization also divides communities along cultural and religious lines leading to a rise in hate crimes and extremist movements. Age can reveal differing attitudes towards social issues further solidifying divisions leading to more hostility and distrust. Divisions regarding the role of technology in society can also divide along age lines, but also wealth.Digital divides can exacerbate social and economic inequalities, as the pandemic quickly revealed. We also witnessed how those without access to technology disproportionately struggled to access education, healthcare, jobs, and other essential services.Fear and distrust in technology is currently directed at AI. As with seemingly every fast-approaching technological innovation in human history, many fear it while many revere it. Jeremy Lent notes that advances in artificial intelligence are particularly encouraging for futurists who see AI as furthering the quest to disembodied intelligence. Transhumanists imagine a fusing of machines with physiology – the brain supplanted by a connected web of universal artificial intelligence. In the words of a leading advocate and enthusiast, Ray Kurzweil, this transformation would upgrade “the frailties of these Version 1.0 bodies we have.” Sounds like a modern-day Frankenstein to me.Lent also reminds us that futurist visions can also look more like the science fiction classic, The Matrix. Human bodies are relegated to biological livestock consumed for energy so a global matrix of software can run a simulated existence – a virtual world, a meta-universe, or metaverse. Sound familiar? Most of today's technology CEOs from Musk to Zuck subscribe to various forms of these visions of the future and they're not alone.A crude modern-day demonstration of this separation exists with remote work. While physically present in one place, people interact virtually with 2D representations of other humans to perform collaborative cognitive operations – information work. I spent my career helping to develop software tools to enable this mode of working. Now imagine instead of looking at a computer screen people are wearing a headset or special glasses, as often envisioned by leading tech firms. These attempts, in varying degrees, separate the functions of the mind from the body. Our mind can exist in a virtual world while our body remains planted in the physical world.The idea of separating mind and body is not new. These ideas are rooted in ancient Greek philosophical notions that the mind can be separated from the body. It then permeated Christian religions which influenced Western cultures leading to yet another example of division in our present-day society. These philosophies separate the brain – a seemingly computer-like organ – from the physical reality of our biological physiology. Plato viewed the mind as divine, and the body as a polluted swamp. Purity and truth existed only in the mind. He believed the earth to be perfectly round and light rays perfectly parallel. The physical world was constructed with combinations of pure geometry. For him, this reality only exists in mathematical abstractions present in the mind. But for Plato, what is in the mind is what is true. He believed the eye, the physical senses, were not to be trusted. They deceive. He was so adamant in this geometric virtual existence that he had these words carved in stone above the entrance to his academy: “Let no one unacquainted with geometry enter here.”DIVIDED WE STANDAristotle later rejected this strict dualistic separation. While he is interpreted to believe the mind indeed operates differently than most organs in the body, including processing the immaterial in the form of cognition, the mind and body are nonetheless more uniformly connected.This Aristotelian view was picked up in the middle-ages by the influential Christian theologian Thomas Aguinas. He treated intellect, and the soul, as independent but unified physical forms. While separate entities, he believed separation would starve the soul and the intellect of the necessary memories contained in the brain. The mind was for reason and free will while the physical body was but a vessel.But as the Enlightenment unfolded, it was Plato's ideas that took hold. His dualistic beliefs were prominently elevated by the mathematician and philosopher, René Descartes. His form of dualism came in the existence of two substances: mind and matter. A person only exists – they only matter – because they can think. Hence is famous phrase, “I think therefore I am.”Descartes rejected the notion that the universe is comprised of atoms. He was a mechanist, believing the body to be like a machine made of specially formulated parts predetermined and preassembled by a God. He believed the body's parts – the pumps, pullies, and gears, were controlled by processing unit in the brain – a power gifted by a Christian God – the pineal gland. We now know this part of the brain is primarily responsible for producing the sleep regulating hormone, melatonin.This idea of the brain as the ‘central processing unit' serves as the prevailing metaphor of conventional Western thought to this day. Just as Descartes' theories emerged out of Christian theology, Greek philosophy, and modern mechanistic technological advances, by extension, so too do today's intellectual and scientific influencers.Descartes' influence was surely substantiated, and perhaps – like Plato – influenced, by his contributions to mathematics. Moreover, his Cartesian coordinate system provided mathematical language and visualization that further enabled deduction, detection, and delineation. It made it easier to draw borders and boundaries; to bisect and bifurcate with the exacting detail and believability that can come with mathematics. The certitude of mathematics can sometimes delude us into conflating the certainty of a truth with the truth. Plato was right, the senses, via the brain, can deceive. But so can math.Descartes mechanistic view of the world, together with the language of mathematics, meant the universe could now be calculated and communicated with extreme precision. This gave his beliefs and philosophies an added tinge of proof – of the truth. His work helped to unite an understanding of the world by mechanistically dividing the universe “into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it.”The proliferation of printing presses in the 17th century helped to spread and perpetuate his perspective. It was the Cartesian coordinates that helped project the complex three-dimensional world onto a simple two-dimensional surface accelerating the craft of cartography and European global exploration. Soon, those with the means and power to draw maps did so. European powers could now easily and abstractly divide land, in their mind, conquering invaded lands into as “many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve.” They could control how they believed people should interact with each other, economies, and their natural surroundings.These Cartesian maps, plans, and projections continue to legally manifest and define so much of how we think, live, and exist in the world. Our modern society has been shaped by various forms of rigid Platonic and Cartesian concepts steeped in a desire to separate the mind from body, pure from putrid, place from space, physical from virtual, us from them, and what we think from what we feel. And it all churns on at various scales of governments and societies with seemingly little regard for how these separations may be deceiving, limiting, or destroying us.I wonder how this way of thinking contributes to the litany of divisions around us – economic divides, political divides, digital divides, gender divides, race divides, cultural divides, urban-rural divides, transportation divides, age divides, education divides, and more. We're primed to divide, categorize, clump, group, sort, filter, slice, and dice who we are, where we live, and thus how we interact with each other and the physical world.In the sixth century, another Greek philosopher, Æsop, shared a parable on division. An old man pointed to a tied bundle of sticks and ordered his eldest son to break it in half. The boy picked up the bundle and strained to crack it but failed. His younger brothers, hoping to show him up, also tried and failed. The old man then instructed the boys to untie the bundles and each take a stick. “Now, break”, he said, and the sons triumphantly broke each stick. The moral of the story is union gives strength, or as it's commonly transposed today: united we stand, divided we fall.It's easy to imagine this as an origin of an intellectual path to Descartes' interpretation and desire to divide into “as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve.” But is the universe really a bundle of sticks tied by a string? Are our worlds constructed as machines made of discrete, discernable, and dissectible parts with a CPU as a brain? Perhaps the metaphor has led us astray. Perhaps Descartes did error.PARTLY INDETERMINENTThrough it all, I worry we underappreciate, ignore, or deny that all of it, including our minds and bodies, are connected in ways that are not so easily divisible. Descartes, and later Isaac Newton, believed all problems could be subdivided into tiny bits of matter whose behavior could be described by physics in the language of mathematics. These are all important and necessary tools to understanding the world, but as Nobel-award winning physicist Murray Gell-Mann once said, “Imagine how difficult physics would be if electrons could think.”The uncertainty of human behavior, our free will, our human interactions, are unaccounted for in Cartesian and Newtonian forms of scientific inquiry – including physics. So are issues surrounding values and beliefs. Our behavior does not neatly contain the determinism Platonic, Cartesian, and Newtonian theories require. It's this observed complex uncertain behavior of systems, compounded by interactions, that led to discoveries in quantum mechanics, relativity theory, non-linear dynamics, and other fields of complexity science.What would our world be, what could it be, should we shift our thinking to reflect a closer approximation of how the world, and our minds and bodies, may actually work? Instead of focusing on divisions, what if we investigated the connections, the interactions, the overlaps? The crises we face today tend to be framed categorically as economic, sociological, and environmental problems. In a fit of Cartesian inquiry, we tend to “divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary”.Of course, subdivision can be useful, as can the Cartesian mathematics to describe it. Simple components, the results of subdivisions, exist – and are most informative – not in isolation but as part of systems of systems. An ant is most interesting, not just an ant but as an ant in a colony. Humans are best understood not alone but as members of a family, a city, or a society.Mainstream science continues to struggle with how best to account for the interaction of these components and their complex, nonlinear, and unpredictable nature. Individual components are still largely studied in isolation, divided from their reliant systems. And yet, the actions and interactions of component parts are greater, different, and potentially more impactful than their cumulative sum.It's hard to predict, let alone control, the outcomes of these complex systems. After all, these components, including humans, are not centrally controlled. Our limbs are not controlled by the puppeteering pineal gland nor by a distinct ‘central processing unit' encased in a Body v.1. There is no central control of our bodies, brains, cities, or societies. Even our free will is not to be trusted.What if we better scrutinized the emergent behaviors resulting from the countless interconnected outcomes of our world that can't be understood by looking at individual clusters, components, or categories alone? Making better sense of this remains the ongoing work of complexity science.This fundamental shift in thinking, and in science, remains contentious. Even Descartes had his detractors. I often wonder what course humanity may have taken had Enlightenment philosophers, theologians, scientists, and mathematicians more interested in connections than divisions had won favor.Such is the case in ancient Chinese philosophy and science. Those of us most influenced by Western thought may want to better understand the prominent thinkers that came long before the Enlightened Europeans. For example, it was the nineth-twelfth century Song dynasty polymaths and philosophers, like Shen Kuo, who invented the first compass, mapped the seas and stars, and helped to unleash geologic, geographic, chemical, meteorological, and astronomical discoveries. All while the Europeans were just coming out of Medieval times. One unsourced Wikipedia entry even claims Kuo was the first to hypothesize about gradual climate change.We in the West can sometimes be accused of being over-confident and reluctant to admit when we may have been deceived. We shouldn't be surprised when AI systems like ChatGPT echo back the same over-confident and sometime deceptive words we've fed it. It's a bi-product of attitudes and beliefs that just may be contributing to our many differences and divisions. But I'll give Descartes the last word. It was he who said, “It is only prudent never to place complete confidence in that by which we have even once been deceived.” And, “If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things.”I doubt it's possible to divide our way out of the problems we face. My bet in on understanding the dynamics of the component parts. Let's better understand, communicate, and represent what it is that emerges from the interactions of the divided parts. And we'll need AI, and Cartesian and Newtonian computations, to help us know what it is we're seeing and where it is we might be going. After all, we're all nothing more than collections of systems bound by natural laws determined to adapt, change, and evolve into something beyond our knowing. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit interplace.io
Can you imagine the profound impact of searching for meaning during a life crisis?Join us as we speak with Jeremy Lent, author of "The Patterning Instinct" and "The Web of Meaning," about his personal journey of enlightenment and understanding. I met Jeremy when I worked as Interim CEO for the NGO Gaia Education. I was introduced to Jeremy through a fellow friend Daniel Christian Wahl, whom I also met through Gaia Education.After my first meeting with Jeremy, I was left with a feeling of being humble. Here I was, in the room with a great thinker with a mind you want to dive into. I can listen to Jeremy talk for hours. The result of the meeting ended on a professional level with becoming a new Gaia Education program - and I knew I wanted more time together with Jeremy. So when we started our podcast, Jeremy was among the first people I wanted us to talk to. I highly recommend his books: "The Patterning Instinct: A Cultural History of Humanity's Search for Meaning" and "The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe."They are profound and deep and leave you with several aha moments. One of the thoughts that affected me most strongly was his comment that: "The first thing that humans domesticated was themselves"...In this podcast episode, we explore the evolution of meaning-making in human history, the consequences of living in a disconnected society, and the power of love, kindness, and transformation in promoting change and healing.We dive into the cognitive shifts that occurred as humans transitioned from a nomadic hunter-gatherer existence to a more sedentary agricultural lifestyle and discussed the importance of connectedness, community, and kindness in finding meaning in our lives. As we discuss the implications of the ecological crisis on our civilization, Jeremy shares his insights on hope for a better future and how to begin healing from the deep-rooted conditioning we experience from a young age.Finally, we explore the Deep Transformation Network and the importance of taking responsibility for our actions and choices as we strive for a more connected and meaningful existence. See show notes at TheConrad.Family/SelfDirected3
Hello and welcome to another episode of the Unstress Summer Series. Today, we're going to step back and explore humanity and what led us to this point in time, as well as the purpose of existence and some of the existential crises that we are currently experiencing. And who better to talk to about that than Jeremy Lent? Jeremy Lent, described by Guardian journalist George Monbiot as “one of the greatest thinkers of our age,” is an author and speaker whose work investigates the underlying causes of our civilization's existential crisis, and explores pathways toward a life-affirming future. In our conversation, we explore his award-winning books, The Patterning Instinct: A Cultural History of Humanity's Search for Meaning and The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe. We also talk about sedentism, worldview, and so much more. For more on Jeremy Lent, head to his website: https://www.jeremylent.com/ For more on the Principles and Practices of Deep Transformation program: https://www.programmes.gaiaeducation.uk/deep-transformation You can get his books here: https://www.booktopia.com.au/search.ep?author=Jeremy%20Lent ---- Shownotes are available at ARCHIVE | Jeremy Lent: The Web of Meaning ---- Join the Unstress Health Community & Transform Your Life! https://bit.ly/3SRq0gg Connect with Dr Ron at Unstress Health Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unstresshealth/ Facebook: https://fb.me/unstresshealth Email: admin@unstresshealth.com DISCLAIMER: This podcast provides general information and discussion about medicine, health and related subjects. This content is not intended and should not be construed as medical advice or as a substitute for care by a qualified medical practitioner. If you or any other person has a medical concern, he or she should consult with an appropriately qualified medical practitioner. Guests who speak in this podcast express their own opinions, experiences and conclusions. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Today I speak with award-winning author and speaker, Jeremy Lent. Described by Guardian journalist George Monbiot as “one of the greatest thinkers of our age,” Jeremy's work investigates the underlying causes of our civilisation's existential crisis, and explores pathways toward a life-affirming future. A former internet company CEO, with a BA in English Literature from Cambridge University and an MBA from the University of Chicago, Jeremy's life has followed an unexpected path, as we'll come to hear, and he has gone on to write two highly acclaimed books. The first, The Patterning Instinct: A Cultural History of Humanity's Search for Meaning, explores the way humans have made meaning from the cosmos from hunter-gatherer times to the present day. His new book, The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe, draws upon science and philosophies to lay out a solid foundation for a worldview of deep interconnectedness. Jeremy is the founder of the Deep Transformation Network, a global community exploring pathways to an ecological civilisation, and the nonprofit Liology Institute, dedicated to fostering an integrated worldview that could enable humanity to thrive sustainably on the Earth. Recorded on 20th Oct 2022.
In this episode, we speak with deep and integrative thinker and writer Jeremy Lent, whose work integrates science and traditional wisdom to lay out a solid foundation for a life-affirming worldview of deep interconnectedness. By dismantling the dominant narrative that we are machines driven by selfishness and competition, Jeremy helps us reconsider our human identity in the context of the deep intelligence and cooperativeness that animates life both within and around us. Such a recognition behooves us to drop the veil of supremacy that keeps us separate from the rest of nature and to embrace a path in which we can participate in changing the course from that of potential collapse to one of regenerating the Earth for symbiotic flourishing. See episode website for show notes and links: https://www.populationbalance.org/episode-84-jeremy-lent ABOUT US The Overpopulation Podcast features enlightening conversations between Population Balance Executive Director Nandita Bajaj, cohost Alan Ware, and expert guests. We cover a broad variety of topics that explore the impacts of our expanding human footprint on human rights, animal protection, and environmental restoration, as well as individual and collective solutions. Learn more here: https://www.populationbalance.org/
Get early access to our latest psychology lectures: http://bit.ly/new-talks5 As our civilization careens toward a precipice of climate breakdown, ecological destruction, and gaping inequality, people are losing their existential moorings. Our dominant worldview tells us we're split between mind and body, separate from each other, and at odds with the natural world. This worldview has passed its expiration date: it's based on a series of flawed assumptions that have been superseded by modern scientific findings. In this talk, author Jeremy Lent will discuss themes from his new book, The Web of Meaning, revealing how another worldview is possible—based on our deep interconnectedness with all of life. Showing how modern scientific knowledge echoes the ancient wisdom of earlier cultures, the presentation weaves together findings from modern systems thinking, evolutionary biology, and cognitive neuroscience with insights from Buddhism, Taoism, and Indigenous wisdom. --- Jeremy Lent, described by Guardian journalist George Monbiot as “one of the greatest thinkers of our age.” He is an author and speaker whose work investigates the underlying causes of our civilization's existential crisis and explores pathways toward a life-affirming future. His award-winning book, The Patterning Instinct: A Cultural History of Humanity's Search for Meaning, examines the way humans have made meaning from the cosmos from hunter-gatherer times to the present day. His new book, The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe, offers a solid foundation for an integrative worldview that could lead humanity to a sustainable, and flourishing future. He is the founder of the nonprofit Liology Institute and writes topical articles exploring the deeper patterns of political and cultural developments at Patterns of Meaning. Author website: https://www.jeremylent.com --- Links: - Check out our next event: http://theweekenduniversity.com/events - Jeremy's website: https://www.jeremylent.com - Jeremy's blogs: https://patternsofmeaning.com - Jeremy's books: https://amzn.to/3tJF3gK -- For the past 10 months, we've been working on our biggest project yet: The Holistic Psychotherapy Summit. This is a free online event which aims to provide mental health professionals with the most essential ideas for practising effective psychotherapy in the coming decade, and, as the name suggests, it will cover mind, brain, body, and spiritual approaches to healing. It features exclusive interviews with 30 of the world's leading clinical psychologists, professors, and psychotherapists giving you insights into their best practices and the frameworks they use with clients. You'll be learning directly from the likes of Stephen Porges, Dan Siegel, Janina Fisher, Paul Gilbert, Pat Ogden, Steven Hayes, Lisa Feldman Barrett, Richard Schwartz, Mick Cooper, and 29 others. The best bit is - it's completely FREE to attend live, and you can register today by going to: bit.ly/pod-summit Hope to see you there!
If myths are the means by which we make sense of ourselves and the world around us, how did we become so fixated on stories and systems built around greed, selfishness and competition? How did we come to perceive nature as an unintelligent machine, a mere resource to be plundered? With the help of philosopher Alan Watts we'll unpick the past two thousand years before meeting guests George Monbiot, Jeremy Lent, mythologist Sharon Blackie and non-binary artist Brooke Palmieri, to learn about some of the most exciting and innovative ideas and movements and myths – from Ecological Civilisation to The Commons – that just might help guide us into a more networked, inclusive and sustainable future. https://druidry.org https://www.drbramwell.com/ https://www.thecockpit.org.uk/journeytonutopia https://www.hawkwoodcollege.co.uk/ https://www.brookepalmieri.com/ https://www.monbiot.com/ https://alanwatts.org/ https://sharonblackie.net/ https://www.jeremylent.com/
This week I had the pleasure of talking to one of the great thinkers of our time and the author of two wonderful books, Jeremy Lent. Join me in this Healthy Bite as we dive deep into these two books, The Patterning Instinct: A Cultural History of Humanity's Search for Meaning and The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom To Find Our Place in the Universe. For more on Jeremy Lent, head to his website: https://www.jeremylent.com/ For more on the Principles and Practices of Deep Transformation program: https://www.programmes.gaiaeducation.uk/deep-transformation You can get his books here: https://www.booktopia.com.au/search.ep?author=Jeremy%20Lent ---- You can also watch this episode at https://drronehrlich.com/ ----- TIME TO TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR HEALTH? Join me in my online health programs. ----- CONNECT WITH ME You can ask questions via social media using my Instagram or Facebook or TikTok or YouTube page.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Hello and welcome to another episode of Unstress. Today, we're going to step back and explore humanity and what led us to this point in time, as well as the purpose of existence and some of the existential crises that we are currently experiencing. And who better to talk to about that than Jeremy Lent? Jeremy Lent, described by Guardian journalist George Monbiot as “one of the greatest thinkers of our age,” is an author and speaker whose work investigates the underlying causes of our civilization's existential crisis, and explores pathways toward a life-affirming future. In our conversation, we explore his award-winning books, The Patterning Instinct: A Cultural History of Humanity's Search for Meaning and The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science and Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe. We also talk about sedentism, worldview, and so much more. For more on Jeremy Lent, head to his website: https://www.jeremylent.com/ For more on the Principles and Practices of Deep Transformation program: https://www.programmes.gaiaeducation.uk/deep-transformation You can get his books here: https://www.booktopia.com.au/search.ep?author=Jeremy%20Lent CREDITS: Host: Dr Ron Ehrlich Guest: Jeremy Lent Producer: Amelia Navascues ---- You can also watch this episode at https://drronehrlich.com/ ----- TIME TO TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR HEALTH? Join me in my online health programs. ----- CONNECT WITH ME You can ask questions via social media using my Instagram or Facebook or TikTok or YouTube page.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
This week in our Exploring Social Transformation series, we are sharing a conversation we had back in September 2021 with acclaimed author of 'The Patterning Instinct' and 'The Web of Meaning', Jeremy Lent. This conversation was originally published as part of the Imaginary Society Forum, a forum curated by Life Itself in association with Untitled for the exercising of social imagination through practice and theory. In this episode, Jeremy and Rufus dig into the myth of man's innate selfishness, how shifts in cultural consciousness have historically come about, what's coming next, and why we have reason to feel hopeful. To view the episode notes and learn more about the Imaginary Society Forum head over to: https://lifeitself.us/2022/08/09/jeremy-lent-on-interconnection-shifting-worldviews/
What does it mean for humans to live sustainably on the earth? Andrew Schwartz, Co-Founder and Executive Vice President of The Institute for Ecological Civilization, a non-profit promoting long-term solutions for the wellbeing of people and the planet, helps us pull apart that question. Andrew is also the Executive Director of the Center for Process Studies and Assistant Professor of Process and Comparative Theology at Claremont School of Theology. In this conversation, we're talking about fundamental shifts in many of our most basic assumptions about our relationship with each other and the environment, and the role each of us plays in the way forward towards a worldwide, life-supporting community. Listen to the episode onhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-good-dirt/id1492217846 ( Apple Podcasts),https://open.spotify.com/show/2lpelAmHPGbMVdOOpxhxTo ( Spotify),https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/the-good-dirt-981565 ( Podchaser),https://podtail.com/en/podcast/the-good-dirt/ ( Podtail), https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vICp_ltnSXg&list=PLvDK7OzPMsJUXQDwqF7LN2pBTUBThKFim (Youtube), or on your favorite podcast platform. Topics Covered: How Andrew came to his interest in ecology through religion How The Institute for Ecological Civilization came into being Explanation of The Institute for Ecological Civilization and its mission The Centrality of the Human Experience Genesis as a directive for the human role in the web of creation Deep Ecology Are we fighting for human survival or earth's survival? EcoCiv partners and programs Where are the solutions? Does change happen from within the system, outside the system or from the top down? Who is getting it right? Who do we support? Resources Mentioned: https://share.descript.com/view/5LF2OK9aqP3 (Rose of Sharon Sacred Harp Hymn 254) https://www.blueflame.com/artist/don-shiva/ (Don Shiva) https://davidkorten.org/ (David Corton) https://www.jeremylent.com/ (Jeremy Lent) https://bookshop.org/a/4727/9780553375404 (Ishmael) by Daniel Quinn https://www.aspeninstitute.org/ (Aspen Institute) https://www.philipclayton.net/ (Philip Clayton) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Cobb (John Cobb) https://bookshop.org/a/4727/9781940447414 (What is Ecological Civilization) by Andrew Schwartz and Philip Clayton https://cst.edu/for-such-a-time-as-this/?gclid=CjwKCAjwrNmWBhA4EiwAHbjEQCdUQPnlMXJ9cQsAQPOnhTug5VW9skXv8b3h3fjwkR9fUsavPL0rrBoC6RMQAvD_BwE (Claremont School of Theology) Willamette University https://www.waterforsouthsudan.org/salvas-story (Water for South Sudan) https://weall.org/ (Wellbeing Economy Alliance) Connect with Andrew and the Institute for Ecological Civilization: EcoCiv website: https://ecociv.org/ (https://ecociv.org/) On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/ecociv_/ (@ecociv_) Listen to the https://ecociv.org/the-ecociv-podcast/ (EcoCiv Podcast) About Lady Farmer: https://lady-farmer.com/blogs/the-good-dirt-podcast (Our Website) @weareladyfarmer on https://www.instagram.com/thegooddirtph/ (Instagram) Join http://almanac.lady-farmer.com/ (The Lady Farmer ALMANAC) Leave us a voicemail! Call 443-459-1950 and ask a question or tell us what the good dirt means to you. Email us at thegooddirtpodcast@gmail.com Original music by John Kingsley @jkingsley1026 Statements in this podcast have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration and are not to be considered as medical or nutritional advice. This information is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease, and should not be considered above the advice of your physician. Consult a medical professional when making dietary or lifestyle decisions that could affect your health and well being.
What makes life meaningful? Meaning comes from connection and interconnection but our dominant culture is one of separation from the rest of life. How do we then find meaning through connection? We talk about all of this and more this week with Jeremy Lent, author of The Web of Meaning. Watch this episode on the Mindful Mama Youtube channel! If you enjoyed this episode, and it inspired you in some way, I'd love to hear about it and know your biggest takeaway. Take a screenshot of you listening on your device, post it to your Instagram stories, and tag me @mindfulmamamentor. Have you left a review yet? All you have to do is go to Apple Podcasts or Stitcher (or wherever you listen), and thanks for your support of the show! Takeaways: How to talk to our children about the climate crisis Cooperation may take a bigger role in evolution than competition How to make life meaningful Jeremy Lent is an author and speaker whose work investigates the underlying causes of our civilization's existential crisis and explores pathways toward a life-affirming future. Get Hunter's book, Raising Good Humans now! Click here to order and get book bonuses! ABOUT HUNTER CLARKE-FIELDS: Hunter Clarke-Fields is a mindful mama mentor. She coaches smart, thoughtful parents on how to create calm and cooperation in their daily lives. Hunter has over 20 years of experience in mindfulness practices. She has taught thousands worldwide. Be a part of the tribe—we're over 25 thousand strong! Join the Mindful Parenting membership. Take your learning further! Get my Top 2 Best Tools to Stop Yelling AND the Mindful Parenting Roadmap for FREE at: mindfulmamamentor.com/stopyelling/ Find more podcasts, blog posts, free resources, and how to work with Hunter at MindfulMamaMentor.com.
In this interview, Jeremy Lent, "one of the greatest thinkers of our age" according to renown journalist George Monbiot, discusses ecological reality, how we understand it, and what we should do next as a society. Jeremy contrasts our modern ways of thinking about existence with the ancient ways from China and the world's Indigenous communities. He shares how connectedness, "which is to say love," is the essence of these ancient worldviews and today's burgeoning complexity science. Jeremy describes the necessity of "deep transformation" into an "ecological civilization," the reality that "the health of the whole system requres the health of each part of the system", and shares what keeps him going. About JeremyJeremy Lent is author of two breakthrough books on consciousness and Western Civilization. The Patterning Instinct is a cultural history of humanity's search for meaning, and The Web of Meaning explores and weaves together wisdom from ancient China, traditional Indigenous communities, Western philosophy, and today's Sciences. Jeremy also recently launched a global network for ecological civilization called The Deep Transformation Network. References The Patterning Instinct (Jeremy's first book) The Web of Meaning (Jeremy's second book) The Deep Transformation Network Confucianism - a philosophy / ethics Taoism - a philosophy / religion Buddhism - a philosophy / practice Neo-Confucianism - rationality-based fusion of Confucianism, Taoism, and Buddhism Complexity science Gewu: to study nature in order to learn how to trive António Guterres, Secretary General of the United Nations Coral reefs will collapse UN predicts billions of people will be facing severe water stress Jevons paradox Slavlov Zizek Dualism The Selfish Gene is not true Re: the belief, "Humans and nature are selfish" Systems orientation to the world, how things connect Mutually-beneficial symbiosis Consensus trance Ecological Civilization Program0:00 Welcome & IntroA REALITY CHECK4:00 How series is the ecological crisis? 7:40 How much disruption & suffering do you envision? 10:30 What's driving this?16:15 How have we made “meaning” here in the West?20:30 Why do we believe Nature is a machine?A NEW VIEW OF REALITY24:00 What ancient Asian, Indigenous, and complexity science wisdom are you drawing from now?28:00 Chi & Li explanation 29:00 The contrast between neo-Confucian Gei Wu, Materialism's desire to conquer Nature 34:15 Separation from Nature, our way of life, is madness, isn't it?38:00 And the opposite, re-connecting, brings out love?CONNECTING to an ECOLOGICAL CIVILIZATION39:50 So, is the first step to reconnect to our own bodies?42: 50 What are the moral implications of our modern way of life? What is an Ecological Civilization? 47:15 Please identify some “ecological principles”51:10 What is The Deep Transformation Network?53:50 What keeps you going as a “possibilitarian”? What is your spiritual source, what is helping you do this?WRAP UP58:00 “How are your connections?”Quotes Even though in the West we're just beginning to uncover the importance of making these connections, Traditional ways of making sense of things always focused on these connections. So in early China, for example, about 1,000 years ago, they integrated three of the great Chinese traditions from the past: Buddhism, Taoism, and Confucianism…You don't have the universe without all the stuff and all the relationships…Every one of (the big shifts) happened because of symbiosis with other species, where they take their specialist skills … and that is what we get from today, where if we walk in a forest we get … and transfer their seeds … and the fungal network underground… the whole thing is a symbiotic ecosystems. And if we can start to look at our human relationship, not at how can we conquer it, then we have a chance at shifting our trajectory.We can really understand “love” as being really, like, the realization and embrace of (our) connectedness. When we open our eyes, to that connectedness, embrace it with our being, that is love. . . It's all about this recognition of connectedness.“I think therefore I am” … is saying that thinking capacity is the only thing that actually is fundamentally my identity… but again, this is where modern science shows how fundamentally wrong that is… It's actually not the only part of our intelligence… What we really are as human beings is a combined, conceptual consciousness that allows us to think in those symbolic ways, and, what we can think of as our animate consciousness, our embodied wisdom, which actually is that vast bulk of what we are as human organisms and is also a gateway to connect us with the rest of life, because some of the deepest elements of what we have within our bodies are what we share with all life. And again, modern science validates that. Half of the genes we see in a banana are shared with us.… And that's not just a gee whiz fact, what that basically points to is that the way in which our bodies organize themselves, the way in which they actually are coherent and allow us to have awareness and consciousness are deeply similar. . . In Biology this is called “homology,” the deep history of our evolution is shared with all these other creatures around us…Once we realize that other animals, far from being machines, are actually sentient, feeling beings. and, in fact that any animal with a nervous system and a brain capable of cognizing, the chicken, cows, and pigs that we put in those factory farms, those are animals that suffer. And they may not think in the same way we do, but they are suffering in every bit just as terrible a way from torture and a diminishment of their own life possibilities, just as humans would. . . There is a deep, a profound, moral implication to that. It's quite possible that what we've done with factory farming, where 80 Billion animals every year are tortured and slaughtered for our benefit, is perhaps the greatest amount of suffering that has ever been caused on Planet Earth since life began billions of years ago. We have to face up to that. An “Ecological Civilization” looks at Life itself as the basis for how we actually construct our society.Ecosystems are based on principles of Life hat gave allowed them to be flouring in many cases through millions years, through changes in climate, through all kinds of disruptions, these ecosystems can accommodate that and stay healthy and resilient.An Ecological Civilization asks, “What are the principles that we can learn from Nature that we can apply to human Civilization that can allow for flourishing into the indefinite future?"The ancient Chinese had a concept called, “Ren.” To them Rev meant this profound sense of deep interconnectedness of all life. This recognition that we have … the opposite is “no Rev”, which translates to anesthesia. Perhaps the most important principle is "mutually-beneficial symbiosis."When we look at the way nature evolved, it evolved fractally. Basically “fractals” are patterns that repeat themselves at different scales. So you see that in things like lighting, the branching of the bronchia in our lungs, or neurons in the brain, or coastlines, you see it everywhere in Nature because they show self-organized activity. Ad ecosystems work fractally…Similarly, what that means if we apply that to human society is that the health of each part requires the health of the whole system. . . Our society can only truly flourish and make sure that they're flourishing.There's millions upon millions of people around the world who recognize there's something is profoundly wrong, and they often times feel very isolated because they're part of that consensus trance… We can only get to the transformation we need when we realize we're part of this deeper systemic shift.The Deep Transformation Network is “a global community to share these ideas and to actually work together to realize how deeply interconnected all these transformations are within our society.We need to look very clearly that we are headed into something even worse, unless we do this transformation, and I think we need to recognize that to have those feelings is actually part of what it means to be alive, to have that Ren, to realize that dee[ connection to other life. . . the sense of expanded identity that “I am life”.That recognition that I actually am Life, that really drives me… I look to Life itself, as a source of, "What does Life want from me?" And the answer i get is that Life wants me to feel into that pain enough to be energized, enough to care, enough to change what I'm doing in my life, to really struggle for Life's own future. But Life doesn't also want me to fall into some sort of pit of despair and get stuck there. It wants me to be engaged, to engage with others… so that together, as a group, we have the potential to turn things around. It's about how I can amplify and resonate with the work of others, and how as a system of transformation we can make our civilization redirect — that's what gives me a sense of what's possible.Thanks for listening. This podcast is 1 of 4 keynotes from our Summer Solstice 2022 collection, "Restoring Connective Tissue." It was produced and edited by Chris Searles.
This conversation with Rachel Allan contains lots of diamonds - promised! We start our conversation by talking about how and why Rachel started to dance in the morning. and what shifted for her in doing so. It began with her trying to shift her emotional state and find some ease during a difficult time in her life. We talked about how dancing is a form of bodywork where we find movement that is inspired by music. Through this practice, we not only notice a shift in the body but also emotionally. If in addition, we add an intention, such as “I want to feel joy!” dancing can help us to bridge between head and heart. Rachel talks about some very interesting research from the Heartmath Institute, such as that the heart is a powerful transmitter not only within our body but also in how we relate to others and how we impact the world around us. As if this is not enough we also talk about what the number “40” means for Rachel and she shares some tips on how to start a daily habit. And finally, we exchange some thoughts about Earl Grey Tea. Rachel helps empower people's leadership from a place of Purpose, Power, and Peace. She bridges conscious action through human skills, working with your mindset, embodiment, emotional intelligence, and spiritual practice to transform your relationship with yourself and others. Together, you are getting to the heart of the matter – and take action so you can influence positive change in the world! ________________________________________ LINKS TO RACHEL Website: https://rachallan.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/40fortea/ https://www.instagram.com/innerpeacemaking/ https://www.instagram.com/rachallan___/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rach-allan/ Podcast: https://apple.co/3MvLYlT ________________________________________ LINKS MENTIONED IN THE INTERVIEW Send your special Joy Song to Rachel via IG: https://www.instagram.com/innerpeacemaking/ Or send it via Email: rach@talkagency.co The Web of Meaning by Jeremy Lent: https://amzn.to/3sRWvjl Atomic Habits by James Clear: https://amzn.to/3sMoUaH Exploring the Role of the Heart in Human Performance - Research Conducted by the HeartMath Institute: https://www.heartmath.org/research/science-of-the-heart/ ________________________________________ CONNECT WITH ME Website: www.andrinatisi.com Instagram: www.instagram.com/andrinatisi/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/andrinatisiLIFECURATION
Jeremy Lent is an author and integrator whose dedicated his life since the dot com boom to understanding meaning: how to find it, how to make it, and how to apply it. Author of renowned books ‘The Web of Meaning’ and ‘The Patterning Instinct’, Jeremy joins me to discuss how to combine traditional knowledge with scientific understanding to navigate the polycrisis, the impact of cultural worldviews and how to shift them, and how we can use interconnectedness as a foundation to create a better and more diverse world. Listen on Apple or SpotifyWatch on YoutubeRead the interview transcriptBonus video out on MondayPlanet: Critical is a resource for a world in crisis, supported by people like you. Join the community by becoming a subscriber today.© Rachel Donald Get full access to Planet: Critical at www.planetcritical.com/subscribe
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Get early access to our latest psychology lectures: http://bit.ly/new-talks5 In a sense, every form of psychotherapy aims to realize compassionate intentions. However, Compassion Focused Therapy (CFT; Gilbert, 2010) is distinct in the way that this approach targets compassion as an active psychotherapy process variable in assessment, case conceptualization, and interventions. CFT is based on an evolutionary model of motives and emotions, that recognizes the central importance of human affiliation and attachment dynamics in emotion regulation and optimal adaptive functioning. From the moment we are born and throughout our lives, the presence of care, compassion, and love will affect us positively, on every level of our being, from our levels of anxiety and depression to our heart rate variability and immune system functioning. Drawing on applied research in compassion science, contextual behavioural science this discussion will examine how cultivating compassion for self and others relates to psychological flexibility, our ability to mindfully contact the present moment, and to pursue the realization of our values with wisdom, strength, and courage. Making these connections is one small step in our community process of moving beyond therapy labels, to develop process-based methods of alleviating and preventing human psychological suffering. -- Dennis Tirch, Ph.D. is the Founder of The Center for Compassion Focused Therapy, the first clinical training center for Compassion Focused Therapy (CFT) in the United States, Past President of the Association for Contextual Behavioural Science (ACBS), and an Associate Clinical Professor at Icahn Medical School at Mount Sinai, New York. Described as one of the country's foremost leaders in compassion training and evidence-based therapy, he is an internationally acknowledged expert therapist, supervisor, and trainer in CFT, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT), and Buddhist Psychology (BP). Dr. Tirch is the author of 6 books, some of which include: The ACT Practitioner's Guide to The Science of Compassion, Buddhist Psychology, and CBT, and Experiencing ACT from the Inside-Out. His work has been covered by numerous media outlets, including; The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, The New York Times, The New York Post, NPR, WIRED, and O Magazine. You can learn more about his unique approach to clinical psychology at www.mindfulcompassion.com, and follow him on Twitter at @DennisTirchPhD -- This episode is sponsored by The Weekend University's upcoming “Day on Meaning” Online Conference, taking place on 27th March 2022. In this half-day event, we'll be exploring how ancient wisdom & modern psychology can be integrated to help you uncover a deep sense of purpose and meaning in life. We'll have talks from three of the world's leading experts on the subject, including Paul Bloom, Emily Esfahani Smith, and Jeremy Lent. If you're interested in the psychology of meaning, and taking an evidence-based approach to building a fulfilling life, and also learning how to help others do the same, then this is the event for you. By attending live, you can interact with the speakers in real time, get lifetime access to the recordings, CPD certification, and connect with a community of like-minded people during the conference. As a listener of this podcast, you can get a discount on your ticket if you go to the link: http://bit.ly/meaning2022 and enter the code: “POD” when registering.
In this episode we welcome Jeremy Lent, author of ‘The Patterning Instinct' and ‘The Web of Meaning'. Jeremy investigates the underlying causes of our Civilization's existential crisis, and explores pathways toward a life-affirming future.
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Described by journalist George Monbiot as “one of the greatest thinkers of our age,” Jeremy Lent is the founder of the Liology Institute and the author of ‘The Patterning Instinct' and, most recently, ‘The Web of Meaning'. His work investigates the underlying causes of our civilization's existential crisis, and explores pathways toward a life-affirming future. In his own words, his work: “has been a journey of many years, during which I dedicated myself full time to deep research in disciplines such as neuroscience, history, and anthropology, and to exploring the great traditions of Buddhism, Taoism, Neo-Confucianism, and Indigenous wisdom.” In this conversation with Helena Norberg-Hodge, Jeremy unpacks many of the assumptions and world views that underpin modern society's destructive trajectory. Together, they outline worldview transformations that contribute to a vision for a more sustainable and humane future – a future that both Helena and Jeremy truly believe to be within our grasp. See our new - Localization Action Guide. Please write to info@localfutures.org with any comments and ideas for future topics/guests. Intro music by Gillicuddy (CC BY-NC 3.0).
In Episode 32, Gregg welcomes Dr. Darcia Narvaez. She is Professor Emerita in the Department of Psychology at the University of Notre Dame, and has recently been identified as one of the top 2% of scientists worldwide. She is author of many excellent books and articles, including one of Gregg's all-time favorites, Neurobiology and the Development of Human Morality: Evolution, Culture, and Wisdom. In this episode, she describes her conception of the "Evolved Nest," which maps the key social, physiological, and ecological features that foster healthy human socio-emotional and moral development. They explore how this Nest aligns with the UTOK Tree of Life, and the implications for society and human development. Darcia's Homepage: https://darcianarvaez.com/ Darcia on Twitter: https://twitter.com/morallandscapes Darcia's Moral Landscape PT Blog: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/moral-landscapes The Evolved Nest: https://evolvednest.org/ Breaking the Cycle - Reclaiming Our Humanity with Our Evolved Nest: https://breakingthecyclefilm.org/ the 6-min. Film is on YouTube with subtitles in 15 languages: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_f4fzzFc8A --- Ressources mentioned in this episode:
'Welcome back to the History of 2021 in Canada seminar. We're going to conclude our case study today of the 2nd season of the conscient podcast.'Claude Schryerou can listen to part one here. This is the conclusion!The setting is an undergraduate university history seminar course called ‘History of 2021 in Canada'. I want to thank my son Riel for the idea. It is set in the distant future, where a professor is presenting a ‘case study' based on the second season of the conscient podcast as part of a class on art in 2021. There are four people in the class: the teacher played by myself, a young male student is played by my son Riel Schryer, a young female student, who is online, is played by my daughter Clara Schryer and a female adult student is played by my wife Sabrina Mathews. I want to thank the cast. A reminder that most of the narration is in English, but there are elements and excerpts of the interviews that are in French and some of the narrations as well. Episode 64 features excerpt from the following episodes in season 2 (in order of appearance):e19 reality (1m05s) (Claude Schryer reading Catherine Ingram)e43 haley (2m29s)e58 huddart (3m55s)e19 reality (5m27s) (Claude Schryer reading Britt Wray)e33 toscano (8m13s)e19 reality (9m53s) (Claude Schryer reading Richard Wagamese)e30m maggs (11m09s)e36 fanconi (13m07s)é37 lebeau (15m08s)e43 haley (16m36s) (second excerpt)e59 pearl (20m00s)e19 reality (21m51s) (Claude Schryer reading Todd Dufresne)e52 mahtani (23m05s)e22 westerkamp (23m58s)e54 garrett (25m19s)e41 rae (27m03s)e67 wanna be an ally (29m47)Screen grab of Reaper software edit of e64Recording cast : Sabrina Mathews (adult student), Claude Schryer (professor) and Riel Schryer (male student): September 2021, OttawaRecording cast : Clara Schryer (female student): September 2021, OttawaScriptNote: Some of the script has been slightly modified during the recording through improvisation and is not captured in this text.(Sounds of students chatting, arriving in class and sitting down)Teacher: Hello students. Let's start the class. Welcome back to the History of 2021 in Canada seminar. Last time we had to disrupt the class because of the air pollution alarm but now the air quality is acceptable, and we can breathe again so hopefully the alarm won't go off again. Let's pick it up where we left off last week. I see we have the same group as last week. a few students in class and one online. Je vous rappelle que c'est une classe bilingue. A quick reminder that we're going to conclude our case study today of the second season of the conscient podcast, which produced by an Ottawa based sound artist, Claude Schryer and at the end the last class he was reading a quote from a dharma teacher Catherine Ingram. I think we'll start by playing that again so that you remember what that was about. Despite our having caused so much destruction, it is important to also consider the wide spectrum of possibilities that make up a human life. Yes, on one end of that spectrum is greed, cruelty, and ignorance; on the other end is kindness, compassion, and wisdom. We are imbued with great creativity, brilliant communication, and extraordinary appreciation of and talent for music and other forms of art. … There is no other known creature whose spectrum of consciousness is as wide and varied as our own.Teacher: Alright. Let's talk about art. One of the key moments in the 2020s was when society started to understand that climate change was a cultural issue and that the role of art was not so much to provide solutions, even though they are important, but to ask hard questions and to help people overcome barriers to action. Here is excerpt that I really like a lot from British ecological artist David Haley. It's fromepisode 43:Climate change is actually a cultural issue, not a scientific issue. Science has been extremely good at identifying the symptoms and looking at the way in which it has manifest itself, but it hasn't really addressed any of the issues in terms of the causes. It has tried to use what you might call techno fix solution focused problem-based approaches to the situation, rather than actually asking deep questions and listening.Adult student: The 2020s sure were a strange time. I heard that some said it was the most exciting time to be alive, but I think it would have been terrifying to live back then and … Teacher (interrupting): You're right and that they were tough times, but they were also a time of possibilities, and some people saw how the arts could step up to the plate and play a much larger role. One of these was Stephen Huddart who was the CEO of a foundation called the JW McConnell Family Foundation based in Montreal. Let's listen to him in episode 58 talk about the crisis and the role of the arts. This is now an existential crisis, and we have in a way, a conceptual crisis, but just understanding we are and what this is, this moment, all of history is behind us: every book you've ever read, every battle, every empire, all of that is just there, right, just right behind us. And now we, we are in this position of emerging awareness that in order to have this civilization, in some form, continue we have to move quickly, and the arts can help us do that by giving us a shared sense of this moment and its gravity, but also what's possible and how quickly that tipping point could be reached.Male student: They keep talking about tipping points. What's a tipping point?Teacher: Ah. Right, sorry about that. I should have filled you in about that. Let me find a quote from episode 19 where Schryer actually refers to an expert on this (sound of typing). Here it is. It's from Canadian writer Britt Wray in an article called Climate tipping points: the ones we actually want. Again, this is Schryer reading that quote. Oh, and you'll notice in this one the sound of a coocoo clock in this one. Schryer liked to insert soundscape compositions in between his interviews in season 2. Here is Britt Wray: When a small change in a complex system produces an enormous shift, that new pathway gets reinforced by positive feedback loops, which lock in all that change. That's why tipping points are irreversible. You can't go back to where you were before. A tipping point that flips non-linearly could be the thing that does us in, but it could also be the thing that allows us to heal our broken systems and better sustain ourselves. Adult student: So, they knew back in the 2020's that they were on the verge of irreversible collapse due to climate change and yet they did nothing to heal their broken systems? Teacher: It's not that they did nothing but rather that they did not do enough, quickly enough. it's easy to look back and be critical but that's why we're looking at this history and trying to understand what happened back then and what it means to us now. You are students of history, and you know how significant it can be. There were so many theories and great writing about the need for radical change back then by authors such as Richard Heinberg, Jeremy Lent, Robin Wall Kimmerer, Naomi Klein,Michael E. Mann, and so many more, and there were also great podcasts like Green Dreamer and For the Wild that provided words of warning, interviewed brilliant people and alternatives paths forward, it was all there – but at first it did little to mobilise the population. People were pretty comfortable in their lifestyle and mostly lived in a kind of denial about the climate emergency. People only really started changing their behaviour when climate change affected them directly, like a fire or flood in their backyard, and this is when it became clear that the arts had a role to play in shaping the narrative of change and changing the culture. I'll give you an example, performance artist and podcaster Peterson Toscanotalksabout the power of storytelling and the idea of touching people hearts and minds. This is from episode 33:It's artists who not only can craft a good story, but also, we can tell the story that's the hardest to tell and that is the story about the impacts of climate solutions. So, it's really not too hard to talk about the impacts of climate change, and I see people when they speak, they go through the laundry list of all the horrors that are upon us and they don't realize it, but they're actually closing people's minds, closing people down because they're getting overwhelmed. And not that we shouldn't talk about the impacts, but it's so helpful to talk about a single impact, maybe how it affects people locally, but then talk about how the world will be different when we enact these changes. And how do you tell a story that gets to that? Because that gets people engaged and excited because you're then telling this story about what we're fighting for, not what we're fighting against. And that is where the energy is in a story.Female student: Right, so something as simple as a story could change a person's behaviour? Teacher: Yes, it could, because humans are much more likely to understand an issue through a narrative, image or allegory than through raw scientific data. In fact, we need all of it, we need scientists working with artists and other sectors to effect change. People have to work together. As I was listening to episode 19 this next quote struck me as a really good way to talk about the power of words to affect change. It's by Indigenous writer Richard Wagamese in episode 19 :To use the act of breathing to shape air into sounds that take on the context of language that lifts and transports those who hear it, takes them beyond what they think and know and feel and empowers them to think and feel and know even more. We're storytellers, really. That's what we do. That is our power as human beings.Teacher: How is everyone doing? Need a break? No, ok, well, let's take a look at arts policy in 2021 now. Cultural theorist and musician Dr. David Maggs, wrote a paper in 2021 called Art and the World After This that was commissioned by the Metcalf Foundation. In this excerpt from episode 30, Dr. Maggs explains the unique value proposition of the arts and how the arts sector basically needed to, at the time, reinvent itself: Complexity is the world built of relationships and it's a very different thing to engage what is true or real in a complexity framework than it is to engage in it, in what is a modernist Western enlightenment ambition, to identify the absolute objective properties that are intrinsic in any given thing. Everyone is grappling with the fact that the world is exhibiting itself so much in these entanglements of relationships. The arts are completely at home in that world. And so, we've been sort of under the thumb of the old world. We've always been a kind of second-class citizen in an enlightenment rationalist society. But once we move out of that world and we move into a complexity framework, suddenly the arts are entirely at home, and we have capacity in that world that a lot of other sectors don't have. What I've been trying to do with this report is articulate the way in which these different disruptions are putting us in a very different reality and it's a reality in which we go from being a kind of secondary entertaining class to, maybe, having a capacity to sit at the heart of a lot of really critical problem-solving challenges.Adult student: We studied this report in an art history class. It's a good piece of writing. I think it had 3 modes of engagement: greening the sector, raising the profile :Teacher: … and I think it was reauthoring the world if I remember correctly. It's interesting to note how the arts community were thinking about how to create ecological artworks as well as theoretical frameworks and how does that happen. I'll give you a couple of examples. First, an environmental theatre company in Vancouver called The Only Animal. Let's listen to their artistic director Kendra Fanconi inepisode 36:Ben Twist at Creative Carbon Scotland talks about the transformation from a culture of consumerism to a culture of stewardship and we are the culture makers so isn't that our job right now to make a new culture and it will take all of us as artists together to do that? … It's not enough to do carbon neutral work. We want to do carbon positive work. We want our artwork to be involved with ecological restoration. What does that mean? I've been thinking a lot about that. What is theatre practice that actually gives back, that makes something more sustainable? That is carbon positive. I guess that's a conversation that I'm hoping to have in the future with other theatre makers who have that vision.Teacher: This actually happened. The arts community did develop carbon positive arts works. To be realistic the amount of carbon removed from the atmosphere was probably minimal but the impact on audiences and the public at large was large. At the time and still today, it gets people motivated and open the door to change. People started creating their own carbon positive projects Female student: (interrupting) Amazing! I just found a video of their work on You Tube…Teacher: Please share the link in the chat. It's always good to see what the work looked like. The other example I would give is in Montreal with a group called Écoscéno, which was a circular economy project that recycled theatre sets. Now this one is in French, so let me explain that what Anne-Catherine Lebeau, the ED of that organization is saying. She suggests that the arts community should look at everything it has as a common good, praises the Ellen MacArthur Foundation in England for their work on circular economies and she underlines the need to create art that is regenerative…Let's listen to Anne-Catherine Lebeau in episode 37:. Pour moi, c'est sûr que ça passe par plus de collaboration. C'est ça qui est intéressant aussi. Vraiment passer du modèle ‘Take Make Waste' à ‘Care Dare Share'. Pour moi, ça dit tellement de choses. Je pense qu'on doit considérer tout ce qu'on a dans le domaine artistique comme un bien commun dont on doit collectivement prendre soin. Souvent, au début, on parlait en termes de faire le moins de tort possible à l'environnement, ne pas nuire, c'est souvent comme ça que l'on présente le développement durable, puis en faisant des recherches, et en m'inspirant, entre autres, de ce qui se fait à la Fondation Ellen MacArthur en Angleterre, en économie circulaire, je me suis rendu compte qu'eux demandent comment faire en sorte de nourrir une nouvelle réalité. Comment créer de l'art qui soit régénératif? Qui nourrisse quelque chose.Male student (interrupting) Sorry, wait, regenerative art was a new thing back then? Teacher: Actually, regenerative art had been around for a while, since the 1960 through the ecological art, or eco art movement that David Haley, who we heard from earlier in this class. he and other eco artists did work with the environment and ecosystems. Let's listen to another excerpt from David Haley from episode 43:What I have learned to do, and this is my practice, is to focus on making space. This became clear to me when I read, Lila : An inquiry into morals by Robert Pirsig. Towards the end of the book, he suggests that the most moral act of all, is to create the space for life to move onwards and it was one of those sentences that just rang true with me, and I've held onto that ever since and pursued the making of space, not the filling of it. When I say I work with ecology, I try to work with whole systems, ecosystems. The things within an ecosystem are the elements with which I try to work. I try not to introduce anything other than what is already there. In other words, making the space as habitat for new ways of thinking, habitat for biodiversity to enrich itself, habitat for other ways of approaching things. I mean, there's an old scientific adage about nature abhors a vacuum, and that vacuum is the space as I see it.Teacher : So eco art was an important movement but it did not become mainstream until the 2020s when natural resources on earth were drying up and people started looking at art forms that were about ecological balance and a harmonious relationship with nature. . Now, fortunately, many artists had tested these models over the years so there was a body of work that already existed about this... Btw there's a great book about eco art that came out in 2022 called Ecoart in Action: Activities, Case Studies, and Provocations for Classrooms and Communities. I'll put it on the reading list for you so that you can get it form the library. All of this to say that in retrospect, we can see that 2021 was the beginning of the end of capitalism that Dr. Todd Dufresne predicted, and the arts were at the heart of this transformation because they had the ability to us metaphor, imagery, illusion, fantasy, and storytelling to move people's hearts and presented a new vision of the world. So, I think you're starting to see how things were unfolding in the arts community in 2021. What was missing was coordination and some kind of strategic structure to move things along in an organized way now this was happening in the Uk with Julie's Bicycle and Creative Carbon Scotland and similar organizations, but we did not have that in Canada. I want you to listen to an excerpt of Schryer's conversation with Judi Pearl, who ended up being a very important figure in the arts in the 2020's because she was a co- founder with Anjali Appadurai, Anthony Garoufalis-Auger, Kendra Fanconi, Mhiran Faraday, Howard Jang, Tanya Kalmanovitch, David Maggs, Robin Sokoloski and Schryer himself of an organization called SCALE, which I mentioned earlier. Here is Judi Pearl who explains what SCALE was about in episode 59:It's a national round table for the arts and culture sector to mobilize around the climate emergency. A few months ago, you and I, and a few others were all having the same realization that while there was a lot of important work and projects happening at the intersection of arts and sustainability in Canada, there lacked some kind of structure to bring this work together, to align activities, to develop a national strategy, and to deeply, deeply question the role of arts and culture in the climate emergency and activate the leadership of the sector in terms of the mobilization that needs to happen in wider society. SCALE is really trying to become that gathering place that will engender that high level collaboration, which hopefully will create those positive tipping points.Teacher: OK, time is passing quickly here. there are many other examples in season 2 of the role of the arts, about community-engaged arts, immersive systems, activist art, ritual based art, etc. but in the interests of time, I suggest we move to the notion of hope now. There were so many amazing books and podcasts about hope during this time. Schryer mentions that he enjoyed the book by Thomas Homer-Dixon's Commanding Hope, Eslin Kelsey's Hope Matters, Joanna Macy's and Chris Johnstone's classic from 2010, Active Hope but there were many others. The thing about hope back then is that it was aspirational. Indeed, andthere were many different forms of hope. Let's start with Schryer reading a quote from Dr. Todd Dufresne in episode 19:We're all being “radicalized by reality.” It's just that for some people it takes a personal experience of fire, landslide, or hurricane to get their attention. I'm afraid it takes mass death and extinction. … Whoever survives these experiences will have a renewed appreciation for nature, for the external world, and for the necessity of collectivism in the face of mass extinction. There's hope in this — although I admit it's wrapped in ugliness.Teacher: And it is very ugly, isn't it...? Here's another take on hope from composer Dr. Annie Mahtani in episode 52. Annie was director of a electroacoustic music festival in the UK where the focus of the 2021 was on listening and how listening could us better understand our environment. If we can find ways to encourage people to listen, that can help them to build a connection, even if it's to a small plot of land near them. By helping them to have a new relationship with that, which will then expand and help hopefully savour a deeper and more meaningful relationship with our natural world, and small steps like that, even if it's only a couple of people at a time, that could spread. I think that nobody, no one person, is going to be able to change the world, but that doesn't mean we should give up.Female student: I love the focus on listening. I think Schryer was a specialist in acoustic ecology, if I remember correctly.Teacher: Yes. On a similar wavelength, here's excerpt from soundscape composer Hildegard Westerkamp from episode 22:We need toallow for time to pass without any action, without any solutions and to just experience it. I think that a slowdown is an absolute… If there is any chance to survive, that kind of slowing down through listening and meditation and through not doing so much. I think there's some hope in that.Teacher: Thankfully, we did survive, and we did develop the capacity to listen and slow down as Westerkamp suggests. She was quite prescient in this way. But the notion of hope was elusive, because science keep telling us that they were headed for catastrophe, and there was good reason to be concerned about this and this created massive tension. Male Student: How did they manage that? Teacher: They just kept going in spite of the uncertainty and the grim prospect... As I mentioned earlier, no-one knew if was possible to stop the destruction of the planet, but they kept going on and they use art not only to change systems abut also to keep up morale. Let's listen to this excerpt from episode 54 with theatre artistIan Garrett: I don't want to confuse the end of an ecologically unsustainable, untenable way of civilization working in this moment with a complete guarantee of extinction. There is a future. It may look very different and sometimes I think the inability to see exactly what that future is – and our plan for it - can be confused for there not being one. I'm sort of okay with that uncertainty, and in the meantime, all one can really do is the work to try and make whatever it ends up being more positive. There's a sense of biophilia about it.Male student: OK, they knew that there would be trouble ahead but what about adaptation and preparedness in the arts community. How did they prepare and adapt to the changing environment? Did they not see it coming?Adult Student: It's one thing to raise awareness through art but how did art actually help people deal with the reality of fires, floods, climate refugees and all of that?Teacher: Remember that art had the ability to touch people emotions and motivate them to change their attitudes and lifestyles, but it was also a way to teach people how to adapt while continuing to enjoy the things around them. Artist-researcher and educator Jen Rae is a good example. Rae and her colleagues in Australia did a lot of work in the 2020's to develop tools and resources that call upon art to reduce harm during emergencies. The notion of preparedness. This is from episode 41:The thing about a preparedness mindset is that you are thinking into the future and so if one of those scenarios happens, you've already mentally prepared in some sort of way for it, so you're not dealing with the shock. That's a place as an artist that I feel has a lot of potential for engagement and for communication and bringing audiences along. When you're talking about realities, accepting that reality, has the potential to push us to do other things. It's great to hear about Canada Council changing different ways around enabling the arts and building capacity in the arts in the context of the climate emergency. It'll be interesting to see how artists step up.Teacher: Online student, you have a question. Please go ahead. Female student: Did artists step up? Teacher: Yes, they did. For example, in 2021, there were the Green Sessions organized by SoulPepper Theatrecompany and the Artists for Real Climate Action (ARCA), a really great collective of artists who did all kinds of activist art projects that set the tone for years to come. Some of the most impactful art works were the ones that directly addressed the culture of exploitation and the disconnection from nature that caused the ecological crisis in the first place, so it was not observations but also critique of the root of the issues that humanity was facing at the time. There was also a body work by Indigenous artists, writers, curators and educators that was extremely important and transformative. A good example is Towards Braiding, a collaborative process developed by Elwood Jimmy and Vanessa Andreotti, developed in collaboration with Sharon Stein, in 2020 that opened the door to new ways of working with indigenous communities in cultural institutions and all kinds of settings. It was very impactful. I found an episode from conscient podcast episode 67 from season 3 called ‘wanna be an ally' where Schryer talks about this book and reads the poem called ‘wanna be an ally' from Towards Braiding and I think it's worth listening to the whole thing. It's really important to understand these perspectives. conscient podcast, episode 67, ‘wanna be an ally'? I've been thinking about decolonization and reconciliation and other issues in our relations with indigenous communities. I was reading a text the other day that really affected me positively but also emotionally and I wanted to read it to you. If you remember last episode, I talked about the idea of radical listening. Well, this is a type of radical listening in the sense that each of these words are, I think very meaningful and important for us all to consider. It's from a document called Towards Braiding by Elwood Jimmy and Vanessa. Andreotti written in collaboration with Sharon Stein and it's published by the Musagetes Foundation. I'd like to start by thanking them all for this a very important document that essentially talks about how to, or proposes how to engage indigenous and non-indigenous relations in an institutional setting and, principles and methods, to consider. It's very well-written and I recommend a strongly as something to read and something to do, but for now, I'll just read this poem, on page 39 of the document and, and leave it at that for today because, it's already a lot to consider and as we listen more radically, that means just sitting back and listening with our full attention and openness of mind. So here it is.don't do it for charity, for feeling good, for looking good, or for showing others that you are doing good don't do it in exchange for redemption from guilt, for increasing your virtue, for appeasing your shame, for a vanity award don't put it on your CV, or on Facebook, or in your thesis, don't make it part of your brand, don't use it for self-promotion don't do it as an excuse to keep your privileges, to justify your position, to do everything except what would be actually needed to change the terms of our relationship do it only if you feel that our pasts, presents and futures are intertwined, and our bodies and spirits entangled do it only if you sense that we are one metabolism that is sick, and what happens to me also happens to you do it recognizing that you have the luxury of choice to participate or not, to stand or not, to give up your weekend or not, whereas others don't get to decide don't try to “mould” me, or to “help” me, or to make me say and do what is convenient for you don't weaponize me (“I couldn't possibly be racist”) don't instrumentalize me (“my marginalized friend says”) don't speak for me (“I know what you really mean”)don't infantilize me (“I am doing this for you”) don't make your actions contingent on me confiding in you, telling you my traumas, recounting my traditions, practicing your idea of “right” politics, or performing the role of a victim to be saved by you or a revolutionary that can save you and expect it to be, at times, incoherent, messy, uncomfortable, difficult, deceptive, paradoxical, repetitive, frustrating, incomprehensible, infuriating, boring and painful — and prepare for your heart to break and be stretched do you still want to do it? then share the burdens placed on my back, the unique medicines you bring, and the benefits you have earned from this violent and lethal disease co-create the space where I am able to do the work that only I can and need to do for all of us take a step back from the centre, the frontline from visibility relinquish the authority of your interpretations, your choice, your entitlements, surrender that which you are most praised and rewarded for don't try to teach, to lead, to organize, to mentor, to control, to theorize, or to determine where we should go, how to get there and why offer your energy to peel potatoes, to wash the dishes, to scrub the toilets, to drive the truck, to care for the babies, to separate the trash, to do the laundry, to feed the elders, to clean the mess, to buy the food, to fill the tank, to write the grant proposal, to pay the tab and the bail to do and support things you can't and won't understand,and do what is needed, instead of what you want to do, without judgment, or sense of martyrdom or expectation for gratitude, or for any kind of recognitionthen you will be ready to sit with me through the storm with the anger, the pain, the frustration, the losses, the fears, and the longing for better times with each other and you will be able to cry with me, to mourn with me, to laugh with me, to “heart” with me, as we face our shadows, and find other joys, in earthing, breathing, braiding, growing, cooking and eating, sharing, healing, and thriving side by side so that we might learn to be ourselves, but also something else, something that is also you and me, and you in me, and neither you nor me Teacher: We need to wrap this class up soon, but I think you've noticed that Schryer was deeply influenced by indigenous writers and knowledge keepers of his time. He published a blog in September 2021 that quotes Australian academic and researcher Dr. Tyson Yunkaporta from episode 321 of the Green Dreamer podcast. I'll read a short excerpt now but encourage you to listen to the entire interview if you get a chance. Teacher:The most damaged people on the planet are going to have to set aside their IOUs, set aside any kind of justice, or hope for justice or karma, or anything else, and carry the load for another thousand years to keep everything alive. And it's going to be hard just to forgive and then hand over all this wealth of knowledge and relationship and everything else to the people who are still holding the capital from the last great heist and are not going to give it up or share it anyway. The only way that's going to save the entire planet is to bring everybody back under the law of the land, and be very generous with our social systems, open them up and bring everybody back in. And that's going to be really hard, because at the same time, people are going to be trying to extract from that, corrupt that and everything else. Adult student: That's interesting. It kind of brings us back to the notion of reality and grief, but Yunkaporta doesn't even mention art in that quote so how do we connect the dots with the arts here?Teacher (interrupting): It's a good point but the presence of arts and culture is implied through the notion of the transfer of knowledge and through relationships with humans and the natural world. I think art is there he just did not use the word. Most indigenous cultures at that time did not consider art as separate activity from day-to-day life. It's interesting to observe Yunkaporta's prophesy is essentially what is happening in our world today, isn't it? We're slowly returning to the natural laws of the land, at least in the habitable parts of the planet, and our social systems are being transformed by the knowledge and expertise of Indigenous peoples, right? It's true that we had to go through a tremendous amount of suffering to get there – and we still are - but we seem to be on the other side of that elusive just transition that Anjali Appadurai spoke about in episode 23. So that's why 2021 in the arts in Canada is such an interesting topic and that's why we spent two classes on it as part of this course on Canada in the year 2021. The arts essentially planted seeds for massive transformation that came later. Artists and cultural workers at the time guided the way for that transformation. Unfortunately, we're almost out of time for today's class and my voice is getting tired... I suggest we end the class with another quote from that same blog by Schryer. I've just put it in the chat. I suggest we read it out loud as a group, OK? I'll start and then point to the next person to read out loud. I'll begin. Now that season 2 is complete, I've been thinking about I can be most useful to the ecological crisis. Is it by sharing more knowledge about art and climate through podcasts like this one? Is it by engaging in more activist and protest art? Or is it by developing more green policies for the arts sector? All of these will likely help, but I think the most useful thing for me to do is to listen radically. Let me explain what I mean by listening radically. Male Student: Listening radically is about listening deeply without passing judgment. Listening radically is about knowing the truth and filtering out the noise. Listening radically is about opening attention to reality and responding to what needs to be done.Female Student: I conclude this blog with a quote that I used at the end of episode 1 of this podcast by Indigenous writer Richard Wagamese, from his novel, For Joshua. ‘We may not relight the fires that used to burn in our villages, but we carry the embers from those fires in our hearts and learn to light new fires in a new world.'Adult Student: ‘We can recreate the spirit of community we had, of kinship, of relationship to all things, of union with the land, harmony with the universe, balance in living, humility, honesty, truth, and wisdom in all of our dealings with each other.'Teacher: OK. We'll continue with more about Canada in 2021 next week. Thanks so much for being such an engaged and fun group today. Merci. Miigwech.(speaking softly under the professor, improvised)Male Student: Thanks Prof. I'm really exhausted but I learned a lot. Female Student: Moi aussi. Merci pour cette classe. Aurevoir 2021. Adult Student: Yup, I learned a lot, but I'm bushed. Does anyone want to go for coffee? *END NOTES FOR ALL EPISODESHere is a link for more information on season 5. Please note that, in parallel with the production of the conscient podcast and it's francophone counterpart, balado conscient, I publish a Substack newsletter called ‘a calm presence' which are 'short, practical essays for those frightened by the ecological crisis'. To subscribe (free of charge) see https://acalmpresence.substack.com. You'll also find a podcast version of each a calm presence posting on Substack or one your favorite podcast player.Also. please note that a complete transcript of conscient podcast and balado conscient episodes from season 1 to 4 is available on the web version of this site (not available on podcast apps) here: https://conscient-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes.Your feedback is always welcome at claude@conscient.ca and/or on conscient podcast social media: Facebook, X, Instagram or Linkedin. I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this podcast, including the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation systems and infrastructure that made this production possible. Claude SchryerLatest update on April 2, 2024
In this episode, Debbie and Josie revisit and recap the inspiring conversations with their guests, harvesting a vision for what a regenerative visitor economy could look like in Aotearoa, New Zealand. In this harvest, you'll hear some of our favourite interview fragments from all of our guests, as well as ideas and questions sent in by you, our wonderful listeners.The Harvest is designed to help you digest what we've discussed throughout the season, and as a summary for those who haven't had the time to listen to all 10 episodes. All the guests in this season speak to the urgency and imperative of acknowledging the challenges of an uncertain and complex future. We must face this reality if we're to be resilient in how we reshape our tourism businesses, industry, and communities. Our collective vision is one in which the wellbeing and thrivability of communities is at the heart of tourism's purpose. We dream of a visitor economy that fosters deep and meaningful encounters between visitors and hosts, and puts purpose and passion at the forefront. We hope you find much value and inspiration in this collective vision of a reimagined tourism in Aotearoa, New Zealand. If you're interested in continuing these conversations we invite you to reach out to us and become part of our growing community. Support our Work This podcast is produced entirely by volunteers. If you are finding value in these conversations, please consider supporting us to continue this work by donating to our givealittle page. We are extremely grateful for your support. Connect with us Website Connect on Facebook Follow on Instagram Send us an email: Josie - josie@good-travel.org Debbie - debbie@newzealandawaits.com Many thanks to: All of our guests for generously gifting us their time and knowledge, this project would not have been possible without you all. The teams at GOOD Travel and New Zealand Awaits Clarrie Macklin for our music and production Erin Carnes for our logo and graphic design Our givealittle donors for your generous support for our volunteer produced podcast Show notes and links Back to life Network The Tourism CoLab - Regenerative Tourism by Design Course IPCC Sixth Assessment Report Wave Image of Crises - Mackay Cartoons Regenerative Thinkers: Thanks to Anna Pollock for this list Paul Hawken, Carol Sanford, the Regenesis Group, Michelle Holliday, Dominique Hes, Chrisna du Plessis, Jenny Andersson, Kathleen Allen, John Fullerton, Alan Savory, Daniel Wahl, Giles Hutchins, Fritjof Capra, John Ehrenfeld, David Korten, Jeremy Lent, Charles Eisenstein The Global Regenerative tourism Initiative The Tourism Taskforce Interim Report Glossary: (We and our often use words from Te Reo Māori, New Zealand's indigenous language, in their interviews. We welcome and celebrate this, and for listeners outside of New Zealand for whom these may be unfamiliar, we offer an interpretation here to aid your understanding. For more detail, you can reference https://maoridictionary.co.nz/. We also offer explanations of acronyms and other industry terminology used in hope of making GOOD Awaits more accessible.) Aotearoa - New Zealand Manaakitanga – hospitality, welcome Te Tiriti o Waitangi - The Treaty of Waitangi Whakapapa - genealogy, heritage
Our Place in the Universe
This week I speak with Jeremy Lent who I believe to be one of the most important thinkers of our time. We trace the thread of ideas connecting his first book The Patterning Instinct with his new book The Web Meaning and explore the limits of scientific reductionism in relation to unifying science and spirit. We touch on the fascinating origins of Neo-confucianism and even speak to the profound metaphorical implications of rainbows. I had my world view gently expanded at multiple points throughout this conversation and left feeling a like I'd been drinking some kind of intellectual ayahuasca. I feel there is tremendous value in the philosophical case Jeremy puts forward for why and how we can move towards an Ecological Civilisation. It was a pleasure and a privilege to spend this time with him. https://www.jeremylent.com/the-web-of-meaning.html
Jeremy Lent explores the way forward for humanity & all life on Earth by a deep dive into knowledge, connection, insight, and wisdom in his latest book, The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science & Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe.
Featuring 2 great thinkers mapping a better future for us all by looking deep within not only the human mind, but the mind of the Earth & Cosmos. Jeremy Lent, of Berkeley, CA, is the author of The Patterning Instinct: A Cultural History of Humanity's Search for Meaning and of The Web of Meaning: Integrating Science & Traditional Wisdom to Find Our Place in the Universe.