Podcasts about Yeates

Send us a textDr. Laura Yeates shares her journey as a cardiac genetic counsellor specialising in inherited heart diseases and supporting families affected by sudden cardiac death. We explore her recent PhD research on developing support interventions for these families and discuss the importance of wellbeing for genetic counselling professionals.• Cardiac genetic counselling focuses on inherited cardiomyopathies and arrhythmias• Dr. Yeates completed her PhD during COVID, developing support interventions for families affected by sudden cardiac death• Genetic counsellors need a personalised "self-care toolkit" that evolves throughout their career• The importance of multidisciplinary team meetings where genetic counsellors provide valuable expertise• "Mainstreaming" works best when genetic counsellors are embedded within specialty departments• Being called "stat" to map a complex family tree validated the unique skills genetic counsellors bring to healthcare teams• Certification is challenging but valuable, making genetic counsellors more reflective practitioners• The profession requires continuous learning as "the technology we'll be using in 10 years hasn't been invented yet"Support the showDemystifying Genetics is sponsored by TrakGenehttps://www.trakgene.com/

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Described by The Irish Times as 'raucous, bawdy, reflective and wistful in turn', Traditional Singing from Dublin is more than just an album of songs. Inspired by figures as diverse as Liam Weldon and Seosamh Ó hÉanaí, this work has a strong sense of history throughout. Macdara Yeates joins me. You can stream Traditional Singing from Dublin now. Tickets for TradFest are available at www.tradfest.com

Meet Angus Yeates, a Management Graduate at Adidas based in Melbourne. Angus' traineeship has introduced him to multiple parts of Adidas' operations, including category planning, e-commerce, and digital wholesale, where he manages the brand's presence on Amazon. His role involves optimising product placements, managing retailer partnerships, and driving Adidas' digital growth in the region. With a career spanning various roles, from umpiring in hockey to working with high-profile sports brands, Angus has built an impressive resume.If you're a young job hunter interested in working with top global brands in the sports industry, Angus' journey offers invaluable lessons.*If you like this ep, give these a go next:#181: Western United FC Commercial Partnerships Coordinator, Nathan Perrone#211: AFL Partnerships Coordinator, Brant Hubber#231: Golf Australia Commercial Partnerships Coordinator, Clayton Henderson*-Follow SportsGrad on LinkedIn, Instagram or TikTok -Follow Reuben Williams on LinkedIn, Instagram or TikTok -Subscribe to the SportsGrad newsletter for job and networking opportunities -Become a SportsGrad Member to shortcut your next job in sportBig thanks to Deakin University for making this episode possible. Check out their Master of Sport Management, ranked #1 in Australia.Thanks for listening, much love! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Breast Cancer Awareness Month has wrapped up! After a big month focusing on the disease -- and celebrating a record-setting radio marathon raising money for cancer research on C95 -- Nora Yeates, CEO of the Cancer Foundation of Saskatchewan, joins Brent Loucks in studio to reflect.

Join us as we talk to Pip Yeates, longtime club physio, and hear about how he got into being a physio, working with Jim Leishman, working for Walter Smith, his opinions on the modern player fitness, and much much more

Think unsexy thought. Think unsexy thoughts. Think unsexy thoughts.Topics included corrections, Yeates and Son, parallax, eclipses, Dunsink Time, Thomas Moore, peristalsis, Bob Doran, Take off that white hat!, Huguenots, the princess of the Lestrygonians, Leopold Bloom's failed attempt to think unsexy thoughts, Bloom as sideways Odysseus, Bloom failing to destroy Molly's suitor, and a quick escape.Support us on Patreon to access episodes early, bonus content, and a video version of our podcast. Blooms & Barnacles Social Media:Facebook | Twitter | InstagramSubscribe to Blooms & Barnacles:Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube

Ashley is a passionate designer with two companies that create wonderful design outcomes: her interior design firm- AYI & Associates and her furniture company- Ashley Yeates. This designer and business owner wears many hats. But thanks to family and faith, this multitasking mom can stay grounded and continue to focus on her purpose. She is wanting to create an impact on the industry to think about quality craftsmanship, quality materials that are sustainable and are long lasting. Ashley is currently building her dream home with sustainable building materials and a team to promote her designs and furniture line and like-minded vendors. She is building her home to be showcase sustainable design and products that tackle the overconsumption of products that harm our planet.Be sure to follow along on Instagram @thebusinessofbeautifulspaces + @thorntondesign to stay up to date on what we're talking about next week. If you love our podcast, please, please, please leave us a review. If you have any questions or topic ideas OR you wish to be a guest email us thebusinessofbeautifulspaces@gmail.com or find us on instagram @thebusinessofbeautifulspacesLaura Thornton is the principle designer of Thornton Design Inc, located in Kleinburg, ON. Since founding the company in 1999, Laura has been committed to creating a new kind of interior design experience for her clients. Thornton Design is an experienced team of creative talents, focused on curating beautiful residential and commercial spaces in the Toronto, Ontario area and beyond. Now sharing all the years of experience with other interior designers to create a world of collaboration and less competition. The Business of Beautiful Spaces I @thebusinessofbeautifulspacesThornton Design I @thorntondesign

Macdara Yeates - Wexford Festival Opera - Aurora: A Modern Myth

Sheryl joins us this week and shares her incredible passion for sustainability and how we can change and improve sustainability practices at work! Being an eco-queen, Sheryl has progressed in her career to now working in a behavior change role for the council. We touch on better choices that can be made, how to incorporate a green team at work and what her role entails! You can find the podcast on socials @trainertalksandtails or reach out for feedback or questions on trainertalksandtails@outlook.com.

Have you ever wondered how someone diagnosed with dementia can still live a fulfilling and joyful life? In this recent episode of Christian Dementia Caregiving, we heard a remarkable story from an individual living with early-onset Alzheimer's disease.  William Yeates' (https://www.awakeningyourpositivity.com/) journey is not just about dealing with the diagnosis but about finding ways to live well and maintain a positive outlook. His story offers unique insights that go beyond the typical advice found on most websites. Bill was diagnosed with early-onset Alzheimer's at the age of 59. He described the initial impact as devastating, both for himself and his family. He experienced cognitive decline and faced the hard reality of no cure. However, Bill's story takes a different turn from the usual narrative of despair.   Bill emphasizes the importance of finding a passion and engaging in activities that bring joy and laughter. He believes in adapting to one's abilities and focusing on what makes life enjoyable. This mindset shift helped him navigate the post-diagnosis period with a renewed sense of purpose.   Living with dementia is undeniably challenging, but stories like Bill's show that it is possible to find hope and joy. By embracing a positive outlook and engaging in meaningful activities, both caregivers and individuals with dementia can navigate this journey with resilience and grace. Ever Wonder How To Know What Is Causing Your Caregiver Stress? Take Our FREE Caregiver Stress Assessment Today! https://www.thinkdifferentdementia.com/quiz   Join the Christian Dementia Caregiving Facebook Group today for more support:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/1301886810018410   Are You A Christian Dementia Caregiver Struggling To Cope With Caregiving? Join the FREE "Ask the Dementia Mentor" Monthly Meet Up! And be on the podcast, get support and your questions answered.  https://dementiacaregivingmadeeasy.com/ask   Register For Your Personalized Dementia Care Audit Get Individual Guidance & Support! Only One Available Per Month. Be a Co-Creator of the podcast and get a customized audit of your caregiving journey.  https://www.thinkdifferentdementia.com/audit   Enjoy our podcast? Please take a moment to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and Spotify —it really supports our show! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dementia-caregiving-for-families/id1716187550  

Greg stared at his phone and wondered why Joanna, his girlfriend and flatmate, wasn't answering his calls. Greg had spent the weekend with his family in Sheffield, U.K., which was about four hours north of Bristol, where he shared the apartment with Joanna. Maybe she was just busy. It was, after all, the weekend before Christmas.  But still, it wasn't like her to not reply to him at all. Could her phone be dead? If it was, it had been dead all weekend because she hadn't responded to his calls or texts since before 8:00 p.m. on Friday.“Joanna?” he called out as he entered. But he got no answer. Her purse was there. The keys were there, and a bottle of cider sat on the counter. It was half full. Where was she? He called her cell phone again, calling her name and looking in the closets. He stopped. Her cell phone was ringing from inside the flat. “Joanna!?” he called out again. Any hope he had that Joanna was somewhere in the apartment was dashed as he realized the phone was ringing inside her coat pocket. The temperatures had not reached above freezing the whole weekend. Now he was really worried; Joanna wouldn't have left without her coat. Now he was really worried. With a sinking feeling in his gut, he called the police.Join Cam and Jen as they discuss "The Only Murderer In The Building: Joanna Yeates."Thank you to our team:Written and researched by Lauretta AllenListener Discretion by Edward October from OctoberpodVHSExecutive Producer Nico Vitesse of The Inky Paw PrintSources:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Joanna_Yeateshttps://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/oct/28/joanna-yeates-case-vincent-tabakhttps://www.walesonline.co.uk/lifestyle/tv/senseless-murder-joanna-yeates-how-22641648https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16063153/who-joanna-yeates-how-did-she-die/https://youtu.be/_HMIM8ScKt0si=AHLbnVKa5dHE7befhttps://youtu.be/LXMixkwtjYgsi=ZBgI3VsBsel_Glm4https://youtu.be/K1My3HfOuVo?si=9EzfIq43taP5wpKlhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/754124703/match=1&terms=%22Joanna%20Yeates%22https://www.newspapers.com/image/723901797/match=1&terms=%22Joanna%20Yeates%22https://www.newspapers.com/image/723910638/match=1&terms=%22Joanna%20Yeates%22https://www.newspapers.com/image/754102963/match=1&terms=%22Joanna%20Yeates%22%20murderhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/754182143/match=1&terms=%22Joanna%20Yeates%22%20murderhttps://www.newspapers.com/image/754182311/match=1&terms=%22Joanna%20Yeates%22%20murder

I talk with Cara Yeates about her new film, GONE BEFORE YOUR EYES, and her tremendous career spanning film festivals, one woman shows, running her own production company, and making gorgeously moody films.In this episode, we talk about the intentionality behind her films, including GONE BEFORE YOUR EYES; balancing corporate work and creative work; the financial viability of short films; festival strategy; and the benefits of owning a production company. If you feel like we have a lot of Canadian and Canadian-Americans on the show, there's a good reason for that -- they are creating valuable, unique art. The beautiful filmmaking of Cara Yeates is no exception.Cara's Indie Film Highlight: Totem dir by Lila Aviles (https://www.limerenciafilms.com/en/archivos/61)Links:GONE BEFORE YOUR EYES Website (https://www.gonebeforeyoureyes.com/)Cara Yeates' Website (https://www.carayeates.com/)Trigger Creative (https://www.triggercr.com/)Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/first-time-go/exclusive-content

Join Emma Kenny as we delve into the chilling case of Joanna Yeates, whose life was tragically cut short by her neighbor, Vincent Tabak. In this episode, we explore the sequence of events that led to Joanna's disappearance and the discovery that turned a missing person case into a murder investigation. We dissect the deceptive behavior of Tabak, the forensic evidence that sealed his fate, and the impact of the crime on the Yeates family and the wider community. This story is a poignant reminder of the need for vigilance and the complexities of trust in our social fabric.

This week's guests are Laura Yeates and Leora Shlasko of the Sustainable Recruitment Alliance.Laura is the senior manager overseeing Global Professional Staff Diversity & Inclusion at City law firm Latham & Watkins. Laura has changed the face of recruitment for early careers not just in the legal world, but across the city and really shone a spotlight on unconscious bias and untapped talent. During lockdown Laura founded the Sustainable Recruitment Alliance (SRA), which is driving eco-friendly change to early recruitment by encouraging early career recruiters to decrease their emissions.Leora is the newest team member at the Sustainable Recruitment Alliance and is its Sustainability Impact Advisor. After studying at Vassar College in New York, Leora completed a masters in environmental governance at the University of Oxford, where, among other studies, she researched the social impact of environmental policies on Bluefin Tuna in Mediterranean and Japan.Discover more about the SRA, which companies and organisations are signed up to the pledge and what they are doing to reduce their carbon impact in the course of the recruitment here.Journalist and host Sandra Kessell invites guests to discuss their Green, Ethical, Sustainable and Socially responsible jobs, courses or activities and asks for real-world insights into the pathways and careers that led to them.Instagram ProGRESS Content © Sandra Kessell Original music © Lyze KessellEmail: Hello@myPro-GRESS.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On a Friday night in December just before Christmas 2010, 25 year old Joanna Yeates went out to a pub with her friends after work. She left to walk home, and when her boyfriend returned home two days later he found she wasn't at their apartment. Where was Joanna?Join in on the conversation by friending us on Facebook "Sipping with Snapped a true crime podcast" or follow us on Instagram @sippingwithsnapped or twitter @sippingsnappedor send us an email sippingwithsnapped@gmail.com  and please visit our  website www.sippingwithsnapped.comGive to the Joanna Yeates missing persons fundSupport the show

Joanna and Greg moved into an apartment in Clifton. With Christmas approaching he left to visit family but when he returned Joanna was gone. Greg had no idea, that on the other side of the wall they shared was her killer. #joannayeates #vincenttabak #christmasmurder #truecrimepodcast

Welcome to Everyone Has a Story, where we dive into the lives of extraordinary individuals who are shaping our world in remarkable ways. Today, we're thrilled to have with us Amanda Yeates, the CEO of SunCentral, the company behind the transformative development of the new Maroochydore CBD on the Sunshine Coast. In a world driven by technology and innovation, it's easy to overlook the power of infrastructure development. But as Amanda reminds us, building infrastructure isn't just about creating roads and bridges; it's about shaping the very fabric of our communities. Growing up, Amanda was inspired by her father's dedication to infrastructure projects. She witnessed firsthand the impact his work had on people's lives, and it was this realisation that ignited a passion to pursue a career in infrastructure development. Today, Amanda stands at the helm of SunCentral, leading a team of passionate individuals who are redefining the concept of a city centre. The new Maroochydore CBD is more than just a collection of buildings; it's a vision for a sustainable, connected, and vibrant community. In this episode, we'll delve into Amanda's journey, exploring the challenges and triumphs of building a CBD from scratch. We'll also discuss the importance of community building, the role of green credentials in urban development, and Amanda's vision for the future of Maroochydore.

In December, 2010, Joanna Yeates went missing from her Bristol apartment while boyfriend was out of town. Joanna was a hard working landscape architect who lived a low risk lifestyle. Her disappearance was shocking for her friends and family. Join us as I tell Joanna's story. Make sure to subscribe, like, and leave a review. We can be found on:Instagram at  https://www.instagram.com/married2murderpodcastTwitter at  https://twitter.com/Married2_Murder  Facebook at  https://www.facebook.com/Married-2-Murder-Podcast-107933798398670 Email any case suggestions our comments to Married2murderpodcast@gmail.com. Discord group https://discord.gg/XbsvJmYZmKCheck out our website at https://married2murderpodcast.buzzsprout.comDisclaimer: Any verbal opinion by the hosts of any person's involvement with a crime who has not been found guilty by a jury of their peers is pure speculation and should not be considered as fact. Sources:https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/oct/28/joanna-yeates-case-vincent-tabakhttps://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/homicide-murder-manslaughter-infanticide-and-causing-or-allowing-death-or-serious#:~:text=with%20intent%20to%20kill%20or,intent%20to%20kill%20will%20suffice)https://www.walesonline.co.uk/lifestyle/tv/senseless-murder-joanna-yeates-how-22641648https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/sep/16/joanna-yeates-police-apologise-christopher-jefferieshttps://www.channel4.com/news/joanna-yeates-landlord-held-on-suspicion-of-murderhttps://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/feb/11/joanna-yeates-funeral-church

Karen Yeates, executive vice president-information technologies at Signature Travel Network, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report about all the great new technology products the agency cooperative has introduced over the past year, as well as all the new tech to come. And yes, Yeates does address the elephant in the room—artificial intelligence (AI). For more information, visit www.signaturetravelnetwork.com. If interested, the original video of this podcast can be found on the Insider Travel Report Youtube channel or by searching for the podcast's title on Youtube.

My Summer Lair host Sammy Younan talks to director Cara Yeates about her movie Gone Before Your Eyes (screening at Woodstock Film Festival and other upcoming film festivals.) My Summer Lair Chapter #262: What Can We Learn From Die Hard Today? Recorded: Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 12:30 pm (EST) For more show notes visit MySummerLair.com. Bonus Fun? Sign up for my newsletter because the F in FOMO doesn't stand for Fun. Stress free pop culture (TV shows! Books! Movies! Music! So Many Recommendations!!) tastefully harvested for your divine delight. Once a week a carefully curated edition of My Pal Sammy goes directly to your inbox. Magic or Science? You decide.

In this episode, the crew chat with guest Ronnie Yates from Ronnie Yates Law about firearms rights and Texas law pertaining to gun ownership and self-defense. Topics discussed include differences between misdemeanors and felonies in Texas, how convictions can affect your right to own guns, the benefits of NFA trusts, braces vs stocks, and justifiable use of force in home defense situations. Tune in for an insightful legal perspective on exercising your 2nd amendment rights in the Lone Star State.https://www.ronnieyeates.com/gun-trust-pro/Big Tex Ordnance

Interviewer info Lyssa Rome is a speech-language pathologist in the San Francisco Bay Area. She is on staff at the Aphasia Center of California, where she facilitates groups for people with aphasia and their care partners. She owns an LPAA-focused private practice and specializes in working with people with aphasia, dysarthria, and other neurogenic communication impairments. She has worked in acute hospital, skilled nursing, and continuum of care settings. Prior to becoming an SLP, Lyssa was a public radio journalist, editor, and podcast producer.  In this episode, Lyssa Rome interviews Kate Meredith about using concepts from family and systemic psychotherapy to help people with aphasia and their families.    Guest info Kate Meredith is a Family and Systemic Psychotherapist, working for the NHS and in independent practice in South Wales. She is completing a Professional Doctorate in Systemic Practice. Kate worked for 15 years as a Speech and Language Therapist, working with adults with acquired communication difficulties. Kate's dual training enables her to support families and individuals with the impact of these changes on family and social relationships. Kate has studied at University College London, King's College London and the University of Bedfordshire. Kate worked with Giles Yeates to publish Psychotherapy and Aphasia: Interventions for Emotional Wellbeing and Relationships (Meredith, Kate. H. and Yeates, Giles. N. 2020). Kate also presented at the American Speech-Language-Hearing Association International Convention in November 2022.   Listener Take-aways In today's episode you will: Describe the importance of narrative for helping families cope with aphasia. Understand how speech-language pathologists can use genograms and ecomaps to support their LPAA care. Learn why the way speech therapists talk about aphasia matters. Edited show notes Lyssa Rome   Welcome to the Aphasia Access Aphasia Conversations Podcast. I'm Lyssa Rome. I'm a speech language pathologist on staff at the Aphasia Center of California, and I see clients with aphasia and other neurogenic communication impairments in my LPAA-focused private practice. I'm also a member of the Aphasia access podcast working group. Aphasia Access strives to provide members with information, inspiration, and ideas that support their aphasia care through a variety of educational materials and resources.   I'm today's host for an episode that will feature Kate Meredith. Kate is a family and systemic psychotherapist, working for the NHS and in independent practice in South Wales. She is completing a professional doctorate in systemic practice. Kate was a Speech and Language Therapist for 15 years, working with adults with acquired communication difficulties. Her dual training enables her to support families and individuals with the impact of these changes on family and social relationships. Kate has studied at University College London, King's College London, and the University of Bedfordshire. Kate worked with Giles Yeates to publish Psychotherapy and Aphasia: Interventions for Emotional Wellbeing and Relationships. Kate also presented at the ASHA convention in November 2022.   Kate Meredith, welcome to the podcast. I'm so glad to be talking with you.   Kate Meredith    Thank you for having me. I'm really glad to be here.   Lyssa Rome    So to start with, I'm curious about your transition from speech language pathology, or speech language therapy, into family therapy. What led you to make that change?   Kate Meredith    So I loved working as a speech language therapist or a speech language pathologist, as you would say in the US. It was great. I mainly worked in a rehabilitation setting, and what that enabled me to see, from the off, was the changes to people's relationships. On a daily basis, I was witnessing people coming into the center, trying to figure out who they were in relationship to each other, and that got me really, really curious. The more I thought about it, the more I thought about the ask that we put on partners and family members in those settings—so whether it's supporting people with toileting or washing, feeding or swallowing, there's so much change that takes place.    And it really made me think: What about the relationships? Are we asking about the change in relationships? Are we asking what it feels like for partners to have different roles, to have different aspects to the way they do their relationships? And as a speech language therapist, I was thinking: Okay, what does this person need in terms of their communication skills, what do they need on the ward? Do they need to be able to indicate whether they're hungry or thirsty or in pain? And all of that was important. But it also kept me thinking: What would matter most to me? If I were in this situation, if I had aphasia, if I was having difficulties with my communication, what would be the biggest impact for me? And it just kept coming back to relationships for me.    Now, I worked in the multidisciplinary team, with neuropsychologists and physios and OTs, nurses, healthcare support workers, doctors—great, great teams. But I wasn't sure that any of us really felt like we had the remit or the focus to think about people's relationships after brain injury.    When I was working in the community for a while, I started working with a neuropsychologist, who started asking questions about this with a couple that I was working with alongside him. And I said to him afterwards, “I loved those questions. I'm so glad you're asking those questions. I think about this all the time.” And he said, “Well, I wasn't doing neuropsychology there, I was doing family therapy.” So I started looking into it. And when I started exploring it, and when I got onto the course, straightaway, I thought, I think that speech and language therapists, speech language pathologists have got a really unique set of skills here that matches so well with the skills that are needed in family and systemic psychotherapy.    So starting the training, loved the training straightaway. And I always hoped that I'd be able to do something and brain injury with it, but then, when I found a job in family therapy, in a different context, actually, working with children, adolescents in mental health services, I kind of started down that direction, and love it. But I've really held on in my private practice, where I'm not working as a speech language therapist anymore. But most of my private practice work is with adults who have a communication disorder. And I find that so enriching. I just love it. And I also do a little bit of writing a little bit of presenting. And that's kind of where I got to here.   Lyssa Rome   It sounds like you very organically saw this connection between what families, people with acquired brain injuries and acquired communication disorders were dealing with, and how family and systemic therapy might be able to help them live better with their conditions. So I want to back up for a moment and ask you to define for us what is family and systemic therapy for, say, SLPs, who aren't familiar with that term?   Kate Meredith   Absolutely, because I wasn't either. I think it's more popular in certain contexts of healthcare than in others. So in the UK, it just wasn't in brain injury anywhere. So I'd never heard of it. There are different names for family and systemic psychotherapy—so some people call it systemic psychotherapy, some people call it family therapy, sometimes it's a mixture, which doesn't really help with the difficulties that people have in understanding what it is. But really what it is, is about helping people who are in relationships with each other, work together to achieve change. The idea being that change happens through relationships, rather than individuals just making a change that can that can affect everything.    The big principle of it is really that problems aren't located in people. Problems and people are not the same thing. People don't just have ownership or become the problem, they very often happen between people. So who takes responsibility for that change, if actually, the problem is happening between two people, or more than two people?    So family and systemic psychotherapy thinks about actually how relationships can support people, and how improving relationships can reduce problems and can reduce symptoms. So we're trying to provide a really safe space in family therapy and systemic psychotherapy, where people can communicate, they can make efforts to understand each other in a different way. We can think about strengths—it's very, very strengths based—but also about what the needs are, what the emotions are, and how people can be a resource for each other. So rather than thinking, you need to go and get this fixed, or you need this medication, it's actually: What can happen in the relationships that will bring about the change?   Lyssa Rome  That brings to mind a really interesting conversation that I was able to have, as part of this podcast, several episodes ago, with Dr. Marie-Christine Hallé, who really emphasized this idea that aphasia is a family thing, it's not something that just happens to the person with aphasia, and what you're describing, this idea of locating the problem, sort of outside of the person with with the brain injury and situating it within the family context, I think, is a really powerful way to think about it.    So you've been bringing these ideas from family therapy to speech language therapists, speech language pathologists, working with people with communication disorders. And today, our plan is to talk some more about some of these concepts from family or systemic therapy that can be useful for SLPs, who are working, particularly within the Life Participation Approach to Aphasia. So can you say a little bit more about what you've been doing to bring these ideas to SLPs?   Kate Meredith   Yeah, absolutely. So for me, this is this is really exciting. What I really want to help people understand, I guess, a lot of people do already, but actually, if relationships are what matters to the person, we're working with, then that's everyone's business. You know, we don't need to think of it as being something that we don't have the right to ask about. So of course, you can always train as a family and systemic psychotherapist. But as a speech and language pathologist, there are also many other things that you can do to support people's relationships after brain injury and with aphasia. And the feedback that I get from clients I work with now, from clients I've worked with in the past, is that it's really helpful to have someone who understands neurology, who understands aphasia and what can support communication alongside the permission in those sessions to make the relationships the focus. So this is really important for people, really meaningful for people. So what I guess I'm trying to do is get that message out there—make this your business, because we've got the skills.   Lyssa Rome   I first became aware of your work with your presentation at ASHA in November 2022, and you talked about ways that speech therapists could make it our work. Specifically, you talked about—one of the things you talked about—was narrative therapy, and the power of stories to help people make sense of their situation and to shape their reality. We've touched on this earlier, but part of that had to do with this idea of externalizing the communication disorder, in this case, the aphasia. So I wondered if you could go into that a little bit more for us.   Kate Meredith   Absolutely. It's one of my favorite approaches. So I'd be delighted to talk more about it. So narrative therapy is based in a kind of philosophy of social constructionism, which I won't go into too much here. But essentially, it's kind of an epistemology, or a way of understanding knowledge that underpins the doctorate I'm doing. And it really kind of lends itself to thinking about truth as being a product of social processes, rather than there being one objective truth. So that gets a bit philosophical.    But essentially, what we're thinking about here is that when we are in conversation with each other, which is largely language-based, our conversations support the beliefs that we have and our views of the world. And these events that we are in conversation talking about, they are subjectively perceived. And we link those together into stories that make sense to us. But they're rarely the whole story.    Those of us who have the power to tell these stories, to talk about events and the way that we see them, those of us that have got the loudest voices, the most power, we get to shape the stories that get told and retold. And that, in social constructionist terms, means that we get to shape truth, and we get to shape reality and how it's shared in our communities, which is a privilege that not everyone has.    When we when we do this we see, in narrative therapy we believe, that the stories that fit get retold. They become very dominant. They become the dominant narratives in our societies and in our communities. And the stories that don't fit with that dominant narrative get lost. We would call those subjugated narratives. Now, when I was learning about this in my first year of training in systemic psychotherapy, I just had this epiphany, this kind of light bulb moment of, what does this mean for the people I've just left on the ward and have aphasia, and in the most literal sense, don't have a voice. It just really kind of lit off so many sparks in my brain.    So really thinking about the place of power in this and and how people with aphasia don't get a chance to input into certain stories. I think that we can all probably think about stories that have been told about us in the past that don't really fit for us very well—it might be that we're a rubbish driver, it might be that we're really scatty or that we're selfish or that we're cranky in the morning. You know, there's lots of stories that we don't particularly like that might get told about us. And can we challenge those? Can we give an alternative version and say, well actually is not quite the whole truth and do remember this time? And actually that happened once or twice, but I have been driving for I don't know 30 years or whatever it is. If we can challenge those, then we get to kind of address that narrative and have an influence over it. But if we can't challenge those narratives about us, then we feel less well. We feel subjugated by that.    So I really started to think: Well, what are the options that are available to somebody with aphasia to tell the stories that fit for them? And how as speech and language pathologists do we support them to develop a rich narrative that fits more, that is more congruent with who they are and how they see themselves? So narrative therapy is all about this. Narrative therapy has got a series of kind of parts to it. Essentially, the first thing we're doing is hearing the problem and whatever form people can communicate that to us. We're listening, we're validating, and we need to stay with that. We need to stay with that part of the process before moving on. And when we're doing that, we're thinking about the language that people are using, the way that they're expressing it, because these things are really important later on.    The externalization part of that is about separating the problem out from the person. So the problem and the person are not the same thing. That is absolutely essential as a belief in narrative therapy. And there's some parts of healthcare where that works really well already—that's established. So if we think about cancer care, we don't call people “cancerous.” But yet we call people “aphasic.” So what happens to somebody's identity when they are called “aphasic”? It sounds like, to me that's kind of becoming quite a big part of who they are. And so it's about tending to the language we're using, when we're talking about an aspect of a person or an aspect of an illness that they have had, that then affects their communication with others, rather than making them the problem.    So I want to know: How can we make this routine in brain injury services and aphasia services? How can we talk about, “Oh, yeah, the aphasia—the aphasia happens between the two of you.” “The aphasia gets in the way when you two are trying to communicate.” “The aphasia makes it difficult for us to understand you and your needs, and what matters to you,” rather than, “Your aphasia” or “You as an aphasic.” You know, I know that language is moving on and, and I'm sure that that people are adjusting to making changes with this already. But I think it's really, really important that we think about how can we really relocate that problem from being something that is within the person to something that is cropping up between people.   Lyssa Rome   I think that's such a powerful idea. And after I heard you speak at ASHA, I started paying more attention to the way I was talking about aphasia, and where aphasia would get in the way, or how aphasia impacted, say, someone's ability to write a grocery list or to communicate with a child. There's something I think quite powerful about the ability to name it as separate from the person. It's different than I think, what I sometimes hear, which is people sort of blaming themselves for the communication breakdown or for the difficulty. So sometimes you'll hear people say, under their breath, like, “Oh, I'm so stupid,” or that sort of thing. And I think that when we say, “Ugh, aphasia is really getting in the way here, right?” That's, that's a little bit of a different message for people to hear, or maybe for people to tell themselves.   Kate Meredith   Yeah, it really thinks, to me, it speaks to me about who takes responsibility for that and who takes responsibility for the change. And if somebody is already experiencing this in every part of their lives, do we also make them responsible for owning it and, and managing it, and making amends for it. Yeah, that's a lot to put on someone.   Lyssa Rome    So what are some ideas for how SLPs might use these narrative techniques to give them, or people that they're working with, a sense of having influence over aphasia? What kind of questions can we ask people with aphasia and their significant others?   Kate Meredith    So this part of it, I find this really fun work. Okay, so what we're doing here is we're essentially giving aphasia a character. And we're doing that through making the person that we're talking with, the person who has the brain injury, the expert. Their expertise really gets raised here, because they're the one that understands it the best. So we're working with them to say, “Okay, let's understand more about this aphasia.” We could call it aphasia, or you might give it a different name. Now, the names can get a little bit profane.    Essentially, what would people call this thing that is coming along and disrupting their lives? What name do they want to give it? What does it look like to them? Do they have a vision of it? What does it sound like? Does it sound like noise and static? Does it have a color? Does it feel like it's this kind of black thing kind of approaching them? Is it big? Is it small? Does it have a shape? And what does it say? Does it say those things that you hear people saying, “Oh, I'm so stupid?” “Oh, I should have got that right.” “Oh, this is…?” Does it put words into people's minds? “You're stupid, you can't manage this situation. If I was you, I wouldn't even go out today, because you're not going to succeed at anything.”    There might be things that it's saying to the people that we're working with that get into their narratives. So can we be curious, first of all? “Tell me more about this—what that looks like, what it sounds like, what it says to you, and how can I understand that better?” And we might be doing that most effectively in a session with one or two of their family members there as well. So they can really listen in and think, “Okay, I've got my experience of it. And this is their experience of it. And wow, I'm understanding this in a really different way now.”    So then we can start to think about the influence of the problem on people and on relationships. So what does it do? How does it get in the way? How does it disrupt? Does it provoke frustration? Does it provoke anger? Does it make you feel isolated? Lonely? Does it provoke other people to engage in behavior that you find really patronizing? So can we understand what does it do that really affects your life and your relationships?    Then we can start to think about its presence. So when is it most present in your relationships? What helps it to successfully disrupt your communication together with the people that you care about? So it might be, “First thing in the morning, when I'm really tired, it's everywhere. And I can't do anything without it tripping me up.” Or, “It's okay in this situation. But actually, in these situations, when someone's trying to rush me, and I've got a queue of people behind me, then it's just there, shouting in my ear, saying, ‘I told you, you couldn't be in this situation, you may as well go home.'” So really thinking about where are the contexts where it's most present, most visible, most disruptive?    Now, an interesting part of this process is finding out whether or not aphasia might also have some benefits to it. Because the problems we have in our lives often do have some useful side effects. Not always, but it's worth being curious about that. So if aphasia had any benefits to it, what would they be? And some examples of that might be “I can just not worry about my emails anymore. You know, emails were always really stressful to me. And now, you know, my partner's told everybody, look, don't email them, speak to them on the phone. And that's great, because actually, that used to be something that really used to stress me out.” So it's worth kind of just exploring, kind of with a bit of playfulness. Is there anything good about this? Does it do anything useful for you?    The important part or another important part of this process, is looking at what we call the relative influence. So by this stage, we've understood a lot more about what the problem does to people what the problem does to relationships. But actually, the relative influence is what influence we as people have on the life of the problem. So here, we're not just thinking—this is crucial—we're not just thinking about the person with the aphasia, but actually, everybody around them. How can everybody influence aphasia? So when is at least present? We've heard a bit about when it's most present, but when is it least present? When is it hardly even noticeable? And this is often to do with people having stepped up.    So what happens to aphasia when John writes down key words for Millie? Does aphasia get a bit smaller? Does it get a little bit less troublesome? What happens when Angela puts her phone down to look at her dad and talk to her dad? Does aphasia find that something that it doesn't like quite so much because it can't quite have its own way? What happens when David gives Phil time to finish rather than interjecting? So are these things that start to reduce the power that aphasia has to disrupt?    When we're doing this, we're looking for other people to think about their agency over aphasia. So it doesn't feel like a massively oppressive problem in all circumstances and in all contexts. But we're thinking about the unique outcomes that can be threaded together. So actually, most of the time, it's awful, but when that happened the other day that it didn't really feel like it was around, or it felt a lot smaller. Okay, so let's start to thread this together. And let's start to think about other stories that we can tell that are healthier. And through that, we identify the actions that people can take, the tools that they have to reduce the power of aphasia. But again, crucially, not just the person with aphasia, the person with aphasia and everyone else. So we can think about how power is produced when everyone learns aphasia's ways, and uses their tools as a collective, as an army, as an uprising, to fight the power of aphasia.    Now, we have speech language therapists, speech language pathologists, have got so many tools, with working with families working with conversation partners, to really say, “These are your weapons against it. These are the things that you guys are already doing. But if you can do that more, if you can do that in that context, and that context, if you can do that here in the aphasia center, and at home and in the shop, then actually aphasia is going to start to think, ‘Okay, I don't really have much of a place here. I'm not so welcome here.'” And it's going to get less powerful. And we can draw attention to that. We can thread it together. So it's not, “Okay, you know, John's aphasic. And he can't really communicate with anyone.” It's “Aphasia tries to get in the way of John and his family and John and his friends. But this is a really skilled group of people on guard for that. And they are equipped with so many skills and tools, working as a team to make sure that aphasia does not disrupt their relationships.” And that's enormously empowering for people.   Lyssa Rome    Yeah, it's a big shift. What you're describing makes me think about how people in relationship are dealing with aphasia, and how the reciprocity of communication, and that back and forth, might promote resilience with aphasia. And I'm wondering how we as SLPs can help people foster that resilience.   Kate Meredith   So resilience is such an interesting concept when we think about it in any walk of life. And there's so much different research into it. And I was looking into this a lot when I did my family therapy training, my dissertation was really around kind of partner coping when their partner has a communication disorder. So what helps people to cope and what helps people in relationships to feel resilient? And the reading I was doing at the time showed me that interpersonal relationships really influence resilience.    There was a paper by Roland, which was saying that actually, couples who can communicate openly, directly, and sensitively can better cope with chronic disorders. So what does this mean for groups of people that we work with in speech and language therapy and pathology, where open, direct, sensitive, reciprocal communication is less possible? And this is really where SLPs come in with their skill set. Because we need to understand, I believe, how people are managing. I think we need to start having those conversations—what's going on with renegotiation around the boundaries in this family around where the illness has its impact, about how they find a balance in their relationships that suddenly might be really skewed from where it was beforehand. In family therapy, we're really curious about people's understanding of each other's needs, of their strengths, and of their different perspectives on it.    So I guess when we're thinking about open and reciprocal communication, we can have ideas about supported communication. But we can also have a think about actually, what is it like to, to slow it down and to really be thinking, what are our different perspectives on this issue? How do we have a session that is supported by an SLP—somebody that's just taking it slowly and saying, “What is this like for both of you? How do you feel you're managing with this? What are your different ideas about this?” We can be there, supporting the person with the aphasia, to share their perspective, to share their worries. And it's the quality of that that can really, really lead to people feeling that we are open with each other.    It's not about the ease of the quick communication, necessarily, of: “What we're going to have for dinner tonight? And can you phone so-and-so?” It's about: “How we both feeling about this? How are we going to support each other? There's this idea about, you know, me helping you with personal care. What does that feel like for you? Does that feel okay for you? Would you rather someone else did it, so we protect our relationship in a different way? How can I understand your perspective? And how can you understand my perspective?” For me, that's the quality of that communication, that we can really have a part in making more sensitive, making more open, which I think can directly feed into people's resilience.    There are other ways that we can think about resilience, which is about the protective factors that they have as part of them or in their environment or in their relationship. And we can do a little bit of work around that—”What is it that that you do to help you manage at this time?” So then might be emotion-oriented coping mechanisms. Some of those can be healthy, some of those can be unhealthy. So we might be thinking about faith, we might be thinking about denial. There's problem-oriented coping mechanisms, where people might think about giving up work to help manage the kind of care package of their partner. But obviously, that can have its implications with social isolation and financial resources. There's problem-solving coping mechanisms where people might seek social support, or take on different roles that were previously held by the person with a brain injury.    But we need to, I think, be curious about this. What are you doing that's helping you through this time? What ideas do you have about the future and how you guys are going to manage? Because we know that sometimes people can do things with the best intentions. So partners have been found in the past to isolate themselves from social networks to avoid placing their partner into difficult or embarrassing situations. And we might be curious about that and thinking: Okay, yeah, we can see what the intentions are there. And that sounds like you're really holding them in mind. What will that do to you and your resilience, if actually, your social network kind of closes down?    So there aren't necessarily the right answers. And that's another kind of value, I guess, in family and systemic psychotherapy. We're not necessarily there to give the answers. We're there to ask the questions. We're there to be curious. Because generally, our belief is that people come up with their best solutions that fit them, that fit their context. But what we might do is ask the questions that help them to feel: Here's somebody interested in this, here's somebody that can help me to work this through with my partner, by being there, supporting the communication. And that can be a really valuable extension of our role that people might find more meaningful than maybe other things that we do.   Lyssa Rome   So it sounds like you're describing resilience as also something that's sort of based in and fostered by relationships. One of the ideas that really stood out to me in the presentation you did at ASHA was about how speech therapists could use diagrams and maps of relationships and systems to help them understand the context that aphasia exists in, right, the people who are dealing with aphasia, and so I'm wondering if you could tell us a little bit more about using diagramming within our practice?   Kate Meredith  Absolutely, I think this is one of those quick wins that SLPs can kind of start to implement kind of really, really quickly if they're so inclined. So genograms and ecomaps are two tools that I started using really, really quickly when I was training as a family therapist, but still working as a speech and language therapist. And they're slightly different. But essentially what they do is kind of map out the context for communication, map out the context for relationships.    So genograms we tend to think of—they're better known as family trees. So you might have seen these in other books and other contexts. But essentially, we use normally circles for women and squares for men and different shapes for people that don't identify as either. And we kind of map it out according to at least three generations. So you have symbols for each member of the family, and lines to connect them in their different family groups and generations. And what we do there is we map out the structure of the family. So we understand who's in the family and, and where do they live and how often do you see them. But also we can start to think about the quality of relationships. So in systemic psychotherapy, we draw lines between relationships. So you might have two or three lines between the people that are really, really close. And then you might have some squiggly lines between the relationships where there's conflict.    So it helps us to understand, okay, where are where are the people that we're working with in the context of their family relationships? Which relationships are going well? We can also put significant dates on there, separations, illness is really useful to put on there—physical illness, mental illness. How well is this family doing at the moment? What is this new injury, or this kind of developing illness mean to this family? And if we're thinking about their conversation partner as being kind of their key support, potentially their partner, actually what else is going on in their family, because most of us have got something going on in our family. I think I fell into the trap very often as a speech language therapist, thinking: Oh, I bet this wife will be delighted when I say, “By the way, I can stay late tonight, if you want to come in, and we'll do a conversation session with you and your husband.” Without thinking: I wonder what else this woman has on in her life and how this will fit for her?   So it helps us to understand a little bit more about what's going on for that family at this point in time and how this fits. It also helps us to understand if we ask questions, things about the family scripts, the things that get handed down the generations. “We are a family who grin and bear it and get on with life and don't grumble.” Or, “We're a family where bad things always happen to us. And this was always going to happen.” What are the stories that we tell about ourselves as a family? This can be really informative for us as therapists to be thinking: Is this to them feeling like another example of that? Or actually, are they ready to challenge that family script? Or do they have a really positive family script? “We're survivors, we find ways to make stuff work.” “No matter what happens, we're going to stick together.” It's really interesting to ask people about the stories that get told about their family and, and what gets handed down in a really positive way. And what gets handed down in a way that doesn't feel okay, and maybe it's time to think about doing something differently.    So those genograms kind of map out the significant relationships within the family, which can be really helpful for us as speech language therapists to think about. Okay, who are the key communication partners here, and what is the meaning of the illness or the meaning of the aphasia for this family? So that's kind of one way of doing it.    There's another way of doing it, which sometimes, I'd almost recommend starting with, because maybe it fits better for a lot of people in the way they live their lives these days, where it's less centered on the family and the different generations, and more about our social networks. And I'm not necessarily talking about online social networks here, I'm talking about wider social networks. So the tool that I'm thinking about here are called ecomaps. And what we do with ecomaps is we draw a bit of a map of the family and their social systems and their professional systems. And we do that by drawing a circle in the middle with the person we're working with, and their immediate family, or household in that circle. And then around them, we draw more circles. And that can be as many as is relevant—a circle for each system that they are engaged with. So it might be the two partners, if it's two partners, each their work context. If there's kids, it might be their school. There might be adult friends. There might be kids' friends. There might be sports teams, book clubs, neighbors, other family groups. We can start to think, okay, all of these people interact with this family on a weekly basis or monthly basis.    And we can put ourselves on there. Now coming into this, there's a rehab team, or a speech language pathologist or a psychologist or social worker. We can start to kind of put ourselves on there as well. And we can have bigger and smaller circles related to kind of how present those systems are in the family's life. I think what can be really interesting is looking at how much space we take up in somebody's life sometimes, particularly in the acute stages or early on in rehab. Actually, work might have shrunk down to a tiny, tiny circle, whereas it used to be something that somebody did 40 hours a week. And actually now we take up 40 hours a week if they're on an inpatient ward, or even more. Things get really skewed. We become really big in people's lives and that might be quite complicated for people.    But what we can do is start use the lines that I talked about earlier in genograms—the straight lines for closeness the squiggly lines for conflict, again, between that that group in the middle and the different systems around them. What's going well here? What is really shrinking down but we don't want it to? We want that to be bigger, that meant something to us, and at the moment, it doesn't have any space because all these other systems are involved. Where is it that actually, we can say, “Okay, right now, yes, having all the support from the speech language pathologist is really great. We want that. But what would it look like in a year's time?”    Doing these over time can be really important. If you had three of them, you might do an ecomap the year before the brain injury. What did family life look like? Who were the connections? Who were the networks? Right now what does it look like? And if we were to think in two years', or three years' or five years' time, what would you like it to look like? Because that helps us to think about: Which are the systems that we really need to support this family to communicate with? And what would that communication goal be? What would be meaningful for that person? So if it's, “I really love my book club, they're a brilliant group of people, I want to stay engaged with them.” Okay. What does that mean for our communication goals together? How can we really make that important and prominent?    So we can really set goals that are based very much on what will help this person to keep their network—that again, like you said before, feeding into those ideas of relational resilience. And meaning that actually, that social isolation, the people can really experience with aphasia, with people adjusting to aphasia and caregiving, we can say, actually, there are ways to keep these networks going if we think really carefully and really intentionally around what communication goals are needed for us to work on, but also how can we explain to these different systems about aphasia and its sneaky ways? And how can we help them to feel just as skilled in outwitting it and outsmarting it, as the family are hopefully beginning to feel?     Lyssa Rome So as we begin to wrap up, I'm wondering what what would you like speech language pathologists who are listening to this to take away from what you've been sharing with us?   Kate Meredith    I imagine that many speech language therapists listening to this will already have a load of these ideas. So I hope that they feel empowered to keep thinking this way, keep using these ideas. I, for my own practice, like to think: Okay, what would matter the most to me? If I was to have a stroke, if I was to have aphasia, what would matter the most to me? And I think that can be a helpful way to think.    So my thinking is that actually, communication builds relationships, communication sustains relationships, and my relationships are the most important things to me in the world. But what if no one that I was working with in our health system was talking about the significance of aphasia in my relationships? I'd feel stuck. I'd feel like I didn't have anywhere to express that. So I would love speech language therapists would be thinking, I'm gonna ask, “How's this affecting your relationship? How are you doing with that? Who should we be bringing in? How can we understand that?”    So curiosity underpins everything that family and systemic psychotherapists do. So be curious and be broad with your curiosity. Don't feel like there are limits that you've got to stick to. Feel free to ask, “So what's this doing to your relationship with your partner? How's that working for you? What are you worried about?” Because actually, when we can help people to say it, it feels more manageable. So I'd love people to think about that.    I'd really encourage people to think about the concept of timeframes. So what were things like before? How are things now? Where are we going to? What to what place do they want to get to? Because actually, if we don't ask what things were like beforehand, we might never know that actually, they were just about to divorce. And then this happened, and now they feel stuck together. So, you know, ask, “How was your relationship before the stroke?” A lot of people will be doing this already. I don't want to patronize anyone. But I do want people to feel permitted—not that I'm here to give permission—but encouragement to ask these questions. So can we find out who the key conversation partners are, because that really makes us think about the key communication goals more broadly than our immediate context that we see them in.    I'd also really like to think about change happening in relationships rather than change happening within the individual. So a great shooter I had recently said, you know, when people are traumatized, don't make them responsible, alone, for change. This is Robert Van Hennik. And I love this idea: Is it fair for us, in healthcare, in society, to say, “You, there, with aphasia, you need to change your communication so other people find it easier to to understand you.” How can we help families and societies and communities to understand the relational responsibility for aphasia and for managing aphasia?    I also would really like people to have a think about the problem. So the way we talk about the problem gives the problem meaning. So what are the stories that we hear and we tell? And how can we help people with aphasia and their families and their networks to challenge the dominant stories that actually might not fit for them. Actually, there's a really lovely possibility there for joint working. There's short training courses. And there's already a lot of kind of writing out there in systemic theory and practice and more writing coming through about the links with aphasia.    Finally, I guess what I would say is a speech language pathologists, people listening to this, they're already uniquely skilled. And I don't think people understand how good they are at noticing and supporting communication. And that's what builds relationships. We're so proactive in reducing communication barriers, and we've got the opportunity, through our work with people, to really, really find out what matters to people, and help people, help relatives learn new ways of communicating. So don't underestimate everything that you have to offer, in expanding that to relationships, and the quality of relationships to do work that is more and more meaningful for the people that we work with.   Lyssa Rome    Kate Meredith, thank you so much for talking with us. These ideas, I think are both very practical, and then also very empowering to think that as SLPs we can really think broadly and with curiosity about how we are supporting people and families as they deal with aphasia. So, thank you so much for talking with us today.   Kate Meredith    It's been a real pleasure. I'm delighted to have been able to have this conversation with you.   Lyssa Rome    And thanks also to our listeners. For the references and resources that were mentioned in today's show, please see our show notes. They're available on our website, www.aphasiaaccess.org. There you can also become a member of our organization, browse our growing library of materials, and find out more about the Aphasia Access Academy. If you have an idea for a future podcast episode, email us at info@aphasiaaccess.org. Thanks again for your ongoing support of Aphasia Access. For Aphasia Access Conversations, I'm Lyssa Rome.       References and Resources  www.merediththerapies.com kate.meredith@outlook.com Headway https://www.headway.org.uk Stroke Association https://www.stroke.org.uk   Aphasia Access Conversations Episode #97: Aphasia Is A Family Thing with Marie-Christine Hallé    

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Children are not little adults.Their brains are actively developing. Because of this neuroplasticity, one might assume they would more quickly and fully recover from a traumatic brain injury (TBI). This is not the case. A brain injury can have a more devastating impact on a child than a similar injury in a mature adult. (Brain Injury Association of America) This is what makes comprehensive, ongoing rehab for pediatric TBI so important. But, unfortunately, as we will see in our primary research, many children who experience TBI have substantial unmet rehab needs. After reviewing the research, we are thankful to welcome to the podcast, Nelson Gonzalez OTR/L, RFS, CHHC, CCT, CPMT, CORE, CLT to discuss OT and TBI assessment, treatment, and what's on the horizon in this practice area.In order to earn credit for this course, you must take the test within the OT Potential Club.You can find more details on this course here:https://otpotential.com/ceu-podcast-courses/pediatric-tbi-and-otHere's the primary research we are discussing:Fuentes, M. M., Wang, J., Haarbauer-Krupa, J., Yeates, K. O., Durbin, D., Zonfrillo, M. R., Jaffe, K. M., Temkin, N., Tulsky, D., Bertisch, H., & Rivara, F. P. (2018). Unmet Rehabilitation Needs After Hospitalization for Traumatic Brain Injury. Pediatrics, 141(5), e20172859. Support the show

The World Federation for Animals (WFA) is a new membership organization that seeks to harness the collective strength of the animal protection movement to advocate for the inclusion of animals in global policy making. This week, CEO Dr. James Yeates and Policy Director Jessica Bridgers join us on the podcast for a conversation about how the organization is spearheading this global… The post International Cooperation on Behalf of Animals w/ Dr. James Yeates & Jessica Bridgers appeared first on Our Hen House.

Traumatic brain injuries, or TBIs, are injuries that affect how the brain works, and they are a major cause of death and disability in the United States. Children and adolescents are particularly vulnerable, both in terms of sustaining a TBI and experiencing debilitating, potentially lifelong effects.  The topic of traumatic brain injuries is so important to kids that I have decided to dedicate three episodes to it, each with a different, preeminent guest expert. The first episode is an overview of TBI (i.e., what it is, why we care, etc.), the second episode is on prevention, and the third episode is on responding to and treating TBI.  For this episode - the first in the series - my guest is Keith Owen Yeates.  Keith holds the Ronald and Irene Ward Chair in Pediatric Brain Injury at the University of Calgary, where he also is a Professor and Head of the Department of Psychology and an Adjunct Professor of Pediatrics and Clinical Neurosciences. More importantly to our topic, Keith is the one of the most, if not the single most, cited pediatric TBI researcher. More information about Keith and links to TBI resources can be www.TalkingAboutKids.com.

Karen Yeates, executive vice president-technology and resident tech guru for Signature Travel Network, talks with James Shillinglaw of Insider Travel Report about what the travel agency cooperative is introducing for its members. Considered to be a cutting edge technology developer, Yeates unveils such new products as Client Connection 2.0, which can work with any CRM; a List Select Project and new email marketing system; an update to the Sig Cruise Pro that will now include other travel products and allow Signature clients to book, and much more. For more information, visit www.signaturetravelnetwork.com. If interested, the original video of this podcast can be found on the Insider Travel Report Youtube channel or by searching for the podcast's title on Youtube.

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Lauren Yeates on the Virtual Sessions presented by The DJ Sessions 8/8/22 About Lauren Yeates - Lauren Yeates created Rave It Up back in 2010 while she was still in high school. She knew what she wanted to do in life at an early age and has worked hard to make it come true ever since. At only 26, she already has 10 years experience under her belt as a budding journalist. She got bit by the entertainment bug back in 2010 when she met Justin Bieber, and has since met and interviewed celebrities like Hugh Jackman, Rob Mills, RJ Mitte from Breaking Bad, Justice Crew, Kendall Schmidt from Big Time Rush and so many more. Lauren presents all of the Rave It Up videos, and the Rave It Up podcast every week on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and all podcasting platforms, and does her best to make it as fun, entertaining and informative as possible. Throughout her time with Rave It Up, Lauren has also obtained a Bachelor of Journalism from Macleay College in Sydney, worked as Multimedia Editor, News Editor and On-Air Presenter for the Macleay Newsroom (now known as The Hatch), been a panel operator at H!T 104.1 2DayFM, and continues to be an assist team member at young development programs such as Tomorrow's Youth Empower U. Whilst Lauren loves her entertainment career at the moment, her ultimate goal is to one day make Rave It Up as big as The Ellen Show and E! News. To find out how Lauren created Rave It Up, check out her full biography here. Add her on Facebook On LinkedIn: /laurenyeates Follow her on Instagram: @laurenyeates Send her an Email: lauren@raveituptv.com   About The DJ Sessions - “The DJ Sessions” is a Twitch/Mixcloud "Featured Partner” live streaming/podcast series featuring electronic music DJ's/Producers via live mixes/interviews and streamed/distributed to a global audience. TheDJSessions.com The series constantly places in the “Top Ten” on Twitch Music and the “Top Five” in the “Electronic Music", “DJ", "Dance Music" categories. TDJS is rated in the Top 0.11% of live streaming shows on Twitch out of millions of live streamers. It has also been recognized by Apple twice as a "New and Noteworthy” podcast and featured three times in the Apple Music Store video podcast section. UStream and Livestream have also listed the series as a "Featured" stream on their platforms since its inception.  The series is also streamed live to multiple other platforms and hosted on several podcast sites. It has a combined live streaming/podcast audience is over 125,000 viewers per week. With over 2,300 episodes produced over the last 12 years "The DJ Sessions" has featured international artists such as: BT, Youngr, Sevenn, Boris, MJ Cole, Lady Waks, Arty/Alpha 9, Miri Ben-Ari, Party Shirt, Plastik Funk, ENDO, John Tejada, Superstar DJ Keoki, Crystal Waters, Swedish Egil, Martin Eyerer, Dezarate, 22Bullets, Carlo Astuti, Mr Jammer, Kevin Krissen, Amir Sharara, Coke Beats, Danny Darko, Robert Babicz, Elohim, Hausman, Jaxx & Vega, Yves V, Ayokay, Leandro Da Silva, The Space Brothers, Jarod Glawe, Jens Lissat, Lotus, Beard-o-Bees, Luke the Knife, Alex Bau, Camo & Crooked, ANG, Amon Tobin, Voicians, Florian Kruse, Dave Summit, Bingo Players, Coke Beats, MiMOSA, Drasen, Yves LaRock, Ray Okpara, Lindsey Stirling, Mako, Distinct, Still Life, Saint Kidyaki, Brothers, Heiko Laux, Retroid, Piem, Tocadisco, Nakadia, Protoculture, Sebastian Bronk, Toronto is Broken, Teddy Cream, Mizeyesis, Simon Patterson, Morgan Page, Jes, Cut Chemist, The Him, Judge Jules, DubFX, Thievery Corporation, SNBRN, Bjorn Akesson, Alchimyst, Sander Van Dorn, Rudosa, Hollaphonic, DJs From Mars, GAWP, Somna, David Morales, Roxanne, JB & Scooba, Spektral, Kissy Sell Out, Massimo Vivona, Moullinex, Futuristic Polar Bears, ManyFew, Joe Stone, Reboot, Truncate, Scotty Boy, Doctor Nieman, Jody Wisternoff, Thousand Fingers, Benny Bennasi, Dance Loud, Christopher Lawrence, Oliver Twizt, Ricardo Torres, Patricia Baloge, Alex Harrington, 4 Strings, Sunshine Jones, Elite Force, Revolvr, Kenneth Thomas, Paul Oakenfold, George Acosta, Reid Speed, TyDi, Donald Glaude, Jimbo, Ricardo Torres, Hotel Garuda, Bryn Liedl, Rodg, Kems, Mr. Sam, Steve Aoki, Funtcase, Dirtyloud, Marco Bailey, Dirtmonkey, The Crystal Method, Beltek, Andy Caldwell, Darin Epsilon, Kyau & Albert, Kutski, Vaski, Moguai, Blackliquid, Sunny Lax, Matt Darey, and many more. In addition to featuring international artists TDJS focuses on local talent based on the US West Coast. Hundreds of local DJ's have been featured on the show along with top industry professionals. We have recently launched v3.1 our website that now features our current live streams/past episodes in a much more user-friendly mobile/social environment. In addition to the new site, there is a mobile app (Apple/Android) and VR Nightclubs (Oculus).   About The DJ Sessions Event Services - TDJSES is a WA State Non-profit charitable organization that's main purpose is to provide music, art, fashion, dance, and entertainment to local and regional communities via events and video production programming distributed via live and archival viewing. For all press inquiries regarding “The DJ Sessions”, or to schedule an interview with Darran Bruce, please contact us at info@thedjsessions.

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Listen along as Jen sits down with guest Rutherford Yeates, Loan Officer with Assurance Financial. Rutherford has accomplished more in his first year of being a loan officer than some seasoned lenders, closing 48 loans for over $14MM in 8 months in 2021 & so far this year...50 units for near $10+MM! Tune in to hear more!   Looking for some help? Jen is seeking individuals who would like to be featured as a panelist on the show for her Mortgage Lending Mastery Mastermind Series. Email admin@jenduplessis.com to get scheduled! Get in touch with Rutherford: Site Facebook Linkedin Email: ryeates@assurancemortgage.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Legal Fix: Episode 51 - Mass Shootings and Gun Control with special guest Ronnie Yeates, a licensed firearms manufacturer, dealer, and 20-year attorney with extensive experience in firearms law, serving as both a prosecutor and a criminal defense lawyer. We answer - How many mass shootings this year? What's the weapon of choice? Why does someone need an AR-15? Where did the shooters get their guns? Where do the shootings typically occur? How easy is it to buy a gun? Who can sell guns? What screening is performed? Do dealers evaluate mental health? Are guns tracked by serial numbers? How can we reduce gun violence and mass shootings? Do good guys with guns stop bad guys with guns? Will gun control infringe on our 2nd Amendment Rights? The Legal Fix is a new-age radio show by The Tough Law Firm, Fridays at Noon. The toughest Law Firm in town, with the toughest lawyers around, answering your toughest legal questions. Featuring Big Deal Bruce Tough, Boy Wonder Brandon Riley, Golden Boy Jeremy Hall. #RadiotheBoss,#KNLY911Fm,gun control,mass shooting,news,mass shootings in the us 2022,mass shooting in america 2022,gun violence,gun reform,shooting,violence,crime,mass,school shooting,local,uvalde texas,latest news,texas,texas school shooting,u.s. news,gun control biden,gun control legislation --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/911fmtheboss/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/911fmtheboss/support

The long-awaited and long-plagued third installment of The Fantastic Beasts franchise finally is in theaters, but does the movie return to the magic we muggles have gotten used to in the ever-expanding Wizarding World of Harry Potter? “Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore” might be getting mixed reviews from the press, but on this episode of Fan Effect hosts Andy Farnsworth and KellieAnn Halvorsen are joined by the Pop Knowledge blogger' Natalie Mollinet, to take a deeper look at what us “Potterheads” might think of it. The first segment is spoiler-free, then listen at your own peril.  Beyond Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Gaming and Tech, the brains behind Fan Effect are connoisseurs of categories surpassing the nerdy. Brilliant opinions and commentary on all things geek, but surprising knowledge and witty arguments over pop culture, Star Trek, MARVEL vs DC, and a wide range of movies, TV shows, and more. Formerly known as SLC Fanboys, the show is hosted byAndy Farnsworth and KellieAnn Halvorsen, who are joined by guest experts. Based in the beautiful beehive state, Fan Effect celebrates Utah's unique fan culture as it has been declared The Nerdiest State in America by TIME.    Listen regularly on your favorite platform, at kslnewsradio.com, or on the KSL App.Join the conversation on Facebook @FanEffectShow, Instagram @FanEffectShow, and Twitter @FanEffectShow. Fan Effect is sponsored byMegaplex Theatres, Utah's premiere movie entertainment company.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Emily Yeates is a Potter, Illustrator, and Sticker Maker. In this episode, Emily and I talk about pottery, traveling, hyperbaric sessions, hypnosis, positively channeling your inner emotions, and anger management.

Examiner DRIFT and contrast effects are well established effects in #AssessorCognition but how pronounced are they in real #OSCEs? Yeates et al found muted evidence and discuss why effects may vary between settings. Read the accompanying article to this podcast: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/medu.14713

Bombs away! Learn all about this adorable flies curious egg laying habitats as we finally discuss an actual fly!Sources-  The evolutionary pattern of host use in the Bombyliidae (Diptera): a diverse family of parasitoid flies (Yeates et al.)- https://www.fs.fed.us/wildflowers/pollinators/pollinator-of-the-month/bee_flies.shtml- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombyliidae

In today's episode, we're talking to Adrian Yeates about Wellness and Managing Anxiety. Adrian is a professional freelance wellbeing presenter and Mental Health advocate in Dublin, Ireland. He is the owner of Lizado Services which provides training, presentations, and talks on Mindfulness, Stress Management, and Mental Health in the workplace. This episode is a perfect reminder to everyone to take care of themselves as we are about to head into a new year and new school term. We highly encourage everyone to take a listen and store these tips in their back pocket. Today you will learn: How covid may amplify anxious ways Coping mechanisms that parents and children can use If parents ever transfer their fears to their kids and how that may create pressure When parents should begin to worry about anxiety in their child The difference between how children and adults experience anxiety Some warning signs parents should be looking for Why there is a stigma around mental health and what to do to get rid of it   Links and Resources: Adrian's Website: https://www.lizado.ie  Lizado Services on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lizado-services/   Make sure to subscribe and follow us on social media so you never miss an episode! Website: http://www.readingllcenter.com  Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/readingllcenter  Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/readingllcenter  Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWlbl8Ea8DJFADaNU9ZK1Vw  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-reading-and-language-learning-center

Welcome to Between Cuts! The only podcast recorded on location in a barbershop (probably!) Stephen and Pierce, sitting in the barbers chairs chat life, music, mental health, and messing! On Episode Nine, we're joined by the amazing Kathleen Warner Yeates. A star of stage and screen, Kathleen has also helped to guide some of Ireland's best known acting talent to stardom.... She's also Pierce's former acting coach.. but then you can't win em all! Kathleen talks about her work on stage, screen and in her drama school, and also gives us an insight into her new groundbreaking and gripping film, The Letters.

Changing Careers For A Happier Work and Family Life  Changing careers might seem overwhelming , there's so much to consider. You've climbed the ladder in your current job, why leave what you've got? There's comfort in the thought of that security and stability. However, it's not always the case. At one point, you might realize that your current job is not for you. It's critical to know when enough is enough. While it may sound scary, the answer may lie in taking on another career path. In this episode, Ryan Yeates of Advance Innovation Group joins us to share advice for changing careers. He tells the story of his fast-accelerating career journey and the changes that transpired over its course. He also speaks about leadership and building a winning team. Furthermore, Ryan allows us to learn his secrets to living a happy and successful life. Do you want to know when it's time to move on to the next thing in your career? Do you need some advice for changing careers? Then, this episode is for you! Here are three reasons why you should listen to the full episode: Learn how to deal with the voice of doubt in finding success in the workplace. Get advice for changing careers and insight into what it's like to transition and run a team along with it. Discover the secret to a happy and successful work and family life. Resources Connect with Ryan: LinkedIn | Advance Group Coaching with Angela Episode Highlights [03:36] Ryan's Career Journey Before 30 The first thing Ryan is proud of is his career journey before 30.  His journey accelerated very quickly. He had to go from leaving school with some GCSEs to entering the business world.   He started as an engineer installing security alarms and finding no success in working for his brother's business.  So, Ryan made a conscious decision that he wanted something different. He went through various stages where he wanted his career to be. He took up senior roles and found success in the security industry before moving into hospitality, giving him insights on changing careers. [07:07] Dealing with the Voice of Doubt Five years ago, Ryan was all about proving a point. Upon understanding more about himself, he realized it's about the results rather than making a point. Ryan didn't hide the fact that he was 24 when he reached the business board level. He discussed it openly to let his colleagues understand his different perspectives. Due to his desire to climb the ladder, he missed out on many things people his age did. He worked to keep his focus, prove his point, and get to where he wants to. Comfort begins when you know yourself and your capabilities. Knowing he can get things wrong and have imperfections made Ryan more relaxed. [09:50] How COVID-19 Changed Ryan The second thing Ryan is proud of is how COVID-19 changed him. Ryan thinks COVID-19 has changed everyone for the better. We've become more caring and understanding as a nation. He's proud of the journey his team has gone on from day one of COVID-19. Ryan has learned more from COVID-19 than he would have ever done if his life remained the same. The business that Ryan leads has grown from strength to strength over the last 12 months. [13:26] Leadership During COVID-19 Leaders' responsibilities are not as glamorous as they may seem during bad times. His team went into survival mode in the first week of COVID-19. Ryan believes he didn't do the best job during COVID-19. The experience was a learning curve for Ryan's team. It allowed them to change and adapt. [14:54] Advance Group The company is a leader in kitchen design. They also run other business units in services and care. Advance Innovation Group supplies commercial kitchens to casual dining restaurants, Michelin-starred kitchens, celebrity chefs, etc. Their mantra is to lead customers' design experience. The journey they bring their clients through is magical, from the initial design brief to the implementation of their service. Tune in to the full episode to learn more about Advance Group! [17:06] Transitioning Career Paths Ryan transitioned to the kitchen design industry two years ago. A peer sat him down and explained how the world is shifting from sector-specific leaders to business leaders. Ryan found the transition very difficult in the first six months. He threw himself into it by immersing in the industry. The passion and drive in the hospitality sector resonate with Ryan. He still struggles to differentiate between kitchen appliances. But being surrounded by people who understand him allows him to accomplish what he needs to do. [19:20] Working with a Team that Motivates You The third thing Ryan is proud of is his team. He has been fortunate to bring some of his team with him in his industry transition. The business they joined two years ago is completely different to what they do today. Ryan's team went from being a closed-book business to everyone having a voice. They know when to say yes and when to challenge things. The people around him make his passion come out day-to-day. It took around 12 months for them to make the team mesh successfully. [22:29] Forming the Winning Team Perfection isn't everything. Ryan's team had a messy first 6 to 12 months.  Something always happens when you start to get on the cusp of a winning team formation. It's critical to have the foundation of a winning team. Work with people with wisdom in the business and have the business's interest ingrained into them. It's about being able to openly challenge and enjoy the work as a team. Running a team is like a relationship. What makes or breaks it is how you handle communication during tough times. [24:09] Willingness to Change Behavior Ryan won't be where he is today if he is still the person he was seven years ago. He did things his way before without letting anyone else's ideas in. He went through adaptation to his behaviour both on how he operates and his natural personality. [25:35] Ryan's Life Outside of Work Ryan has a daughter and a stepchild.  He is getting married in three weeks. His other half is the rock that gels everything together in their family. He wants to be able to provide a good life for his kids with their dad at home. COVID-19 has also driven work-life balance.  Ryan has made a conscious effort to be there for his kids when he can whenever they need him. [28:44] The Secret to Success for Ryan Ryan believes that the only measure of success is how you feel.  His secret to success is that he loves what he does.  Surround yourself with people who are better than you and will complement your weaknesses. Three fundamental points: know yourself, your numbers and what you class as success.  Being able to alter yourself and adapt to circumstances is crucial. [32:19] What Contributes to Success: Leading a Happy Life Success is about being happy both in your work environment and family life. When you're happy in one aspect, it will affect the other. Ryan is happy at work when there's a problem to solve. He operates best when under pressure. But Ryan is happiest when his team is performing and content in what they do. [33:42] Advice for Changing Careers  Know your limits. Operating and investing in a problem is critical. Ryan operates best in turning something around in five years and then changing again. [34:37] Building Wisdom and Humility He learned a lot from fantastic leaders and colleagues. He watched, observed and remembered as much as he could from them. The humility within him comes from being a lucky child with everything handed to him on a plate. He is keen not to spoil his children like that. Remain grounded no matter what happens and what you've got. 5 Powerful Quotes from This Episode [08:24] 'Once you know exactly who you are and what you're capable of, you're very comfortable and able to put that point across as well.' [09:28] 'Make your mistakes, but then [learn] what you need to do differently.' [22:36] 'Perfection isn't everything… It's okay to let some things go.' [23:38] 'Get a team that enjoys life and enjoys working with you, and appreciate the fact that you're gonna have some really tough times together.' [29:03] 'The only measure to success is how you feel. Honestly, take no notice of how anyone else judges what you class as your own success.' About Ryan Ryan Yeates is the Operations Director at Advance Innovation Group. As a senior and strategic leader, he focuses on client-centric solutions with a passion for innovation. Throughout his career, Ryan has headed various business department areas, including sales, operations, retention and commercial.  He creates stable strategies and motivates teams to achieve budgets and increase business productivity. He manages this through sensible change management procedures. If you want to know more about Ryan, you can connect with him via LinkedIn. Enjoy this Podcast? It can be frightening to change careers and leave the stability you feel in your current one. But Ryan, with his wisdom and openness, shares advice on making the switch. If you enjoyed today's episode of The Mindset Mentor Meets…, then hit subscribe and share it with your friends! Post a review and share it! If you enjoyed tuning into this podcast episode, then you can share your thoughts through a review. You can also share it to help your family and friends make a career shift that will be better for them. Have any questions? You can contact me through LinkedIn, Instagram and Facebook. Thanks for listening!  For more updates and episodes, visit my website. You can also tune in on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify or Podbean.  To meeting inspiration, Angela

Join Jodie as she interviews Lauren Yeates - celebrity interviewer, entertainment reporter and the owner of Rave It Up, an Australian-owned platform and podcast that provides Celebrity News, Reviews and Interviews.   In this great conversation that showcases Lauren's incredible transformation, Jodie and Lauren discuss:  - how Lauren began her journey and her business in interviewing celebrities (it all started with her number one Justin Bieber fan club and the Justice Crew);  - how she went from really caring what other people thought, to growing her confidence to a point where she couldn't care less;  - why living within the boundaries of her comfort zone was holding her back, and which event she attended at 15 years old, that changed her life forever;  - how insights and a-ha moments can propel you forward and change the course of your life in ways you could never imagine;  - Lauren's toolbox of techniques to help her break-away from her shy-girl persona and be the confident woman she always wanted to be;  - the power that social media has over us, and how to create healthier online habits;  - how she boosts her confidence before a celebrity interview and what she does to make sure she has  prepared the best questions possible;  - why you need to own, and really feel, ALL your emotions (yes, even the bad ones) if you want to be able to work through them;  This inspiring interview with a fun and insightful woman will be a great way to get yourself into a really positive headspace, so make sure you don't miss this one (and don't forget to share it with all your friends)!  x Jodie & Anastasia www.RiseWomen.com   Connect with Lauren Website: www.raveituptv.com Facebook: @raveitupshow Instagram: @raveituptv   Want to be a CONFIDENT WOMAN?  Then our Confidence Course for Women is for you!

Billy Collins '63 was U.S. Poet Laureate in 2002 when Congress gave him what seemed like an impossible assignment: commemorate the nearly 3,000 victims of 9/11 in a poem. In the inaugural episode of the Holy Cross Magazine Podcast, Collins talks about why he balked at first and why he changed his mind, and details how he wrote the historic piece, "The Names." More on Collins and "The Names" Collins profile: “The Making of an American Poet" Holy Cross Magazine, Summer 2020 Collins' website Collins' Facebook page, home of his live broadcasts Collins' "The Names" notebooks and drafts The Paris Review Interview with George Plimpton, Fall 2001 Podcast interview with Cheryl Strayed, May 2020 Holy Cross Remembers Lost Alumni on Anniversary of Sept. 11, September 2016 Transcript of this episode: Melissa Shaw: Hello and welcome to the Holy Cross Magazine Podcast. I'm your host Melissa Shaw, Editor of Holy Cross Magazine. This podcast takes a deeper dive into stories covered in our latest quarterly issue or examines a timely topic in between publication. In this episode, we'll be focusing on the latter with the man the New York Times has called the most popular poet in America, Billy Collins, class of 1963. Collins was serving as Poet Laureate of the United States on September 11th, 2001, and was later asked by the Library of Congress to write a poem to commemorate the victims of the attacks. Melissa Shaw: He read the resulting poem, The Names, at a special joint session of Congress in September 2002. It was a work the best-selling writing doesn't discuss much. But today, in light of the 20th anniversary of the September 11th attacks, Collins reflects on the assignment and the poem with writer Marybeth Reilly-McGreen, class of 1989, who profiled the native New Yorker and former New York Poet Laureate in the summer 2020 issue of Holy Cross Magazine. Here are Billy Collins and Marybeth Reilly-McGreen. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: Thank you, Billy Collins, for being here today. And we are anticipating the 20th anniversary of 9/11, the attacks on America. At the time of the attacks you were U.S. Poet Laureate. Billy Collins: Correct. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: You were asked to write a poem, The Names, which you then presented to a joint session of Congress on September 6th, 2002. If you would, we would love it if you would read it for us now. Billy Collins: Right. I'd be happy to read it then we can... and even happier to talk about it. The poem is called The Names and there is a parenthetical epigram below the title, and it reads, for the victims of September 11th and they're survivors. Yesterday, I lay awake in the palm of the night. A fine rain stole in, unhelped by any breeze. And when I saw the silver glaze on the windows, I started with A, with Ackerman, as it happened. Then Baxter and Calabro, Davis and Eberling, names falling into place as droplets fell through the dark. Names printed on the ceiling of the night. Names slipping around a watery bend. Twenty-six willows on the banks of a stream. Billy Collins: In the morning, I walked out barefoot among thousands of flowers heavy with dew like the eyes of tears, and each had a name. Fiori inscribed on a yellow petal. Then Gonzalez and Han, Ishikawa and Jenkins. Names written in the air and stitched into the cloth of the day. A name under a photograph taped to a mailbox. Monogram on a torn shirt, I see you spelled out on storefront windows and on the bright unfurled awnings of this city. I say the syllables as I turn a corner, Kelly and Lee, Medina, Nardella, and O'Connor. When I peer into the woods, I see a thick tangle where letters are hidden as in a puzzle concocted for children. Billy Collins: Parker and Quigley in the twigs of an ash. Rizzo, Schubert, Torres, and Upton, secrets in the boughs of an ancient maple. Names written in the pale sky. Names rising in the updraft amid buildings. Names silent in stone or cried out behind a door. Names blown over the earth and out to sea. In the evening, weakening light, the last swallows, a boy on a lake lifts his oars. A woman by a window puts a match to a candle, and the names are outlined on the rose clouds, Vanacore and Wallace, let X stand, if it can, for the ones unfound. Then Young and Ziminsky, the final jolt of Z. Billy Collins: Names etched on the head of a pin. One name spanning a bridge, another undergoing a tunnel. A blue name needled into the skin. Names of citizens, workers, mothers and fathers, the bright-eyed daughter, the quick son. Alphabet of names in green rose in a field. Names in the small tracks of birds. Names lifted from a hat Or balanced on the tip of the tongue. Names wheeled into the dim warehouse of memory. So many names, there is barely room on the walls of the heart. Billy Collins: To talk about the poem a little bit, I was asked by Congress, well, not everyone at once, in Congress, but I was, I received a phone call I was appointed Poet Laureate in June of 2001. And, of course, that was not too far away from September. And so being the Poet Laureate then, Congress, it wasn't Congress, it was really a group of people who were organizing this event, which was a congressional event. Congress was meeting outside of New York City, extremely rare in the history of the country. I think, maybe the second or third time that it happened. One of them occasion by the British, when the British burned down the capital. That's something we might not think of when we're buying Burberry raincoats and stuff. Billy Collins: But anyway, so they asked me if I'd write a poem to read to Congress and I balked. I mean I was sort of, "A homina, homina homina." I didn't know what to say. I wanted to say, "No, I don't think so." Because my poems are about such small things, such small matters, leading to larger matters. But this was just facing a larger matter head on, instead of telling it slant, instead of finding a way into a topic. This was facing the topic head on. And that's sort of the nature of an occasional poem, a poem that's on a certain subject, a certain event, really. Billy Collins: So I said, I did say, "No." I didn't say wouldn't show up, because you really can't say that to Congress. But I said, "I don't think I could write a poem like that." I kind of bargained my way out of it, but it took a while. I said, "I'm honored to attend and I will read something. I will find something appropriate to read and powerful." And I thought, "Walt Whitman will somehow come to my aid." But then they continued, I thought that would be the end of the conversation. They being at least three people on this conference call. Billy Collins: One of them said, "Well, if you did, just saying, if you did right upon, please include the heroism of the first responders." Another person said, "Well, yeah, if you happen to change your mind, please mention something positive about the future of our country." I mean, it's on and on like that. So the more they kind of jumped on me with all these parts that I should, the more I thought I couldn't write that poem. But one morning, like a week or so later, I woke up, startlingly, about five in the morning, it was still dark. And I thought I really should get off the bench here. I mean, this was the duty of all poets laureate in the past. Billy Collins: The reason to have a poet laureate, and is a British condition and invention, which is about 370 years old at this point. The whole idea of having a poet laureate was to preserve in writing, in rhyme and meter, which were the preservatives of ice and salt, that Yeates calls rhyme and meter, preserving sentiment and preserving national events. We didn't have videotape cameras, recorders, any of that. So the poet was to store in the national memory some event rendered in poetry. So that sort of, thinking of that at five in the morning, got my attention. That I would join this sort of noble tradition of poets laureate who wrote occasional poems. Billy Collins: But then I figured out, and this is sort of more interesting for people who write poetry than not, I figured out a way to do it. I figured out a strategy, because I was writing on demand and I figured out two things. I figured out I could write an elegy, so that's a specific genre and English literature and literature. And if you're an English major, if you get to graduate school anyway, you'll know by heart the probably six or seven great elegies in the English language. By choosing the elegy, that meant I could circumscribe the fields of my endeavor or play. It's a poem for the dead. That's what an elegy is. Billy Collins: That's why the little epigram, for the survivors, that's there, because it declares that the poem is an elegy. So I could stay within these elegy boundaries without dealing with geopolitics, the uncertainty. I mean, by then we were at war. I mean, war was declared, I think, nine or 10 days after September 11th. It was a pretty hair trigger response. And who knows where that war was going to go? Well, we know something about that now. The other thing, the other device I used was I could use, going through the dead, I could use one letter of the alphabet to stand for, to symbolize, to represent all the people, all the victims, the 3,000-and-something victims of 9/11 by the letter of their surname. Billy Collins: So there, I had two things to hold on to, the enclosure of the elegy, where I'm writing a poem for the dead and then the alphabet, and then this whole sense of the tolling of the bell of the names. I haven't counted it up, but the word names must appear 30 times in that poem. It's kind of names doing this, names doing that. That kind of repetition, as it turned out, created this rhythm in the poem. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: Talking about the repetition of the names, I remember, in watching C-SPAN, watching you give the poem to America really. But in watching you read it, Senator Moynihan looks spellbound. He looks absolutely enraptured. His mouth is a little bit ajar and he just looked so, so attentive. Billy Collins: Yeah. Well, he's crying. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: Mm-hmm (affirmative). So there was that- Billy Collins: His eyes were watering up. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: And Jack Reed and John McCain are sitting next to one another. You could see, there was something happening in that room. It was magical. Billy Collins: For some. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: For some. Billy Collins: I mean, it was a very strange occasion. I'm kind of poetry reading hardened, or a veteran, I've done hundreds of poetry readings. But this is before everyone in Congress, and so you see, and you stand among, of these people that usually just see on television. And what happened was there were a number of speakers, of course, and they were senators and they were giving serious speeches, of course, to fit the occasion. They were speeches about, they mentioned, there was a kind of recycled vocabulary. Billy Collins: I mean, the words, tragedy, and national interest, and protecting our, et cetera. And when I got up to read, it was very formal. And, "Blah, blah, blah, Poet Laureate of the United States," or something, and I got up and started. As you've just heard, the poem starts with, "It's nighttime and it's raining." And, "What's this? We're supposed to be talking about 9/11 and this guy's talking about how he's lying awake at night and it's raining." Well, that's poetry. It starts with imagery. Billy Collins: It starts with, at least my poems, tend to start with a place and even weather and a time of day, some kind of locator from which to begin. And at that point, as I've said before, many of the people in Congress were cocking their heads as sort of like a border collie hearing a whistle or something. They just couldn't place it, they were... And then it became clear that it's a poem. And then at that point, the audience kind of divided into two sections. Those who were actually interested in hearing a poem and those that kind of checked out and deployed their anti-poetry shields that have been installed in high school, or at some point. Billy Collins: It made a very strong point in my mind about the difference between political and poetic language. And you're right, whenever I had some doubts, I would always look over to Senator Moynihan. On a scale of one to paying attention, he was paying a lot of attention. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: He was. He was. Cheryl Strayed drew you out on her podcast talking about this poem, and you said that it was nerve racking. You can't see that on the C-SPAN tape, that there's any, your delivery is classic you, very controlled. I'm just wondering, was that an unusual experience for you to be keyed up and nervous? Because I've never seen you, and I've seen you live many times, I've never seen you look nervous. Billy Collins: You haven't seen me get on a roller coaster. A lot of things make me nervous. But no, my heart was racing. I was holding it together. I think I pulled it off. I mean, I've looked at the tape and I seem to be in control. I believed in the poem, I think. I revised the poem a lot, I read it out loud a few times, and I believed in the correctness of the poem. And I believed in the, if I can say this modestly, the strength of the poem. And so I had that in front of me. It wasn't like I was trying... I didn't have to make anything up on the spot. The poem was there and it was solid. And that kept me going, but I was glad when I was over. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: Did this one take longer from conception to finished form? Billy Collins: It was done pretty quickly, actually. I didn't have the list of the dead before me, and I made up names as I went along, just as they occurred to me. I was trying to aim for some diversity. But later, it was odd, when I got the list of the names, which was available on the internet, I had picked some common ones that were represented there. Once I had the elegy and the alphabet, it really didn't take that long. I think I wrote the poem in a number of hours that morning. But I went back and meticulously went through every line, and mainly for say ability, and rhythm, and sound ability. Billy Collins: Like even in the beginning when I say the glaze on the windows. I'm awake, and then blaze and rain. And then I started with A and Ackerman, and happened, and then Baxter and Calabro, right, how it's all that A, A, A. So I was going for trying to make it sound and rhythm made sense there. But yeah, it was nerve wracking. It was a pretty tough audience. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: Well, yes. And so I went to the Ransom Center to look at your notebooks, and saw the pages, and the asterisks by certain names. Billy Collins: Right. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: One of which was Quigley, which is, I believe, the name of Beth Quigley who was a Holy Cross graduate. Billy Collins: Oh, I didn't know that. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: Yeah. What I'm wondering is it, after you read this, and it had its circulation on the internet, did you hear from any families or- Billy Collins: I heard from two families. And frankly, it was long time ago, I forget the names. But I should remember, but they're probably in with my other papers. But I did hear from them and they were very happy to be included. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: You also [crosstalk 00:18:52]- Oh, sorry. Billy Collins: That seemed to be something they did at Ground Zero, was the all the names were read to a tolling bell. In many instances, it's not a very difficult thing to come up with. I mean, what else are you going to do with it besides say their names. If you have over 3,000 people that need mourning, they can't be named individually. And even here, I only mentioned 26 names actually or 25 actually, because the X, there was no one whose name began with X. So I said, "Let X stand, if it can, for those un-found." And as we know, 20 years later, there are still people whose remains are being uncovered just on last night's news. Billy Collins: Then that's another odd thing about... or thinking about 9/11 now, which we are, because it's the 20th anniversary. But now, we see that we've had the, well, the embarrassment of this shabby ending to the war, which is so reminiscent of the helicopter leaving the rooftop of the hotel in Saigon. We've spent I think $2 trillion. $2 trillion is 2,000 billion dollars. Trillion is a little beyond our reach I think of our imagination, but 2,000 billion. We've suffered losses. I mean, 1,000s of people will have been lost in the war. I think something like they estimate 47,000 Afghan citizens, and the Taliban are back, and have reclaimed the entire country in a way that they didn't even have that kind of power before. Billy Collins: Well, I guess for my sake, I'm saying... I'm thinking, I'm not saying, but I will say it now, that choosing [inaudible 00:21:03] was a very smart play, because I did not get into politics, didn't want to get into too, "Let's get back, serve any note of revenge," which really was the emotion that drove us into Iraq. Getting back at the terrorists. I don't see... Where did that get us? Well, there's arguments that we get into with friends. Billy Collins: We got Osama bin Laden, et cetera. Now, we're closing [inaudible 00:21:35] and we're also getting out of Afghanistan. Afghanistan, as we know, always had the reputation of the I think it's called the burial ground of empires, because no one gets it. No one wins in there. We had the Russians as an immediate example just prior to us, and they didn't get anything, it's where are you go to lose a war. But that's something we didn't know then and that just kind of puts all of this into a greater perspective. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: One of the things I remember in a very early conversation that we had is you told me you don't read the names that often. Billy Collins: Well, no, I don't, I don't make a habit of it. I was reading out of a book... I think since the poem was written, I published maybe three books of poems, maybe even four, probably three. I didn't put it in any of those books and I didn't read it. I was at a school on I guess maybe it was the third anniversary of September 11th. I read it then. I've read it a couple of times, but I didn't... I finally thought, well, this book was published in 2013. It's called Aimless Love and I waited over 10 years to publish it, because as I say, I didn't want to make just another poem in my reading. I would have felt that I'm kind of disrespecting the dead and making it part of my poetry show. It was a very special poem for me and it seemed completely and inextricably tied to that occasion. I still don't read it. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: It holds a place of honor in “Aimless Love.” It is the very last poem. Billy Collins: Yes, that was really intentional, that it's not trying to make it not part of the other poems, but having that special place. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: When you received this request, this was only I think you told me the second or third commissioned poem you had ever... Billy Collins: Yeah, there was one poem on the 300th anniversary of a school in New York, the Trinity School. I can't think of another one that I've... I've rarely written on demand. I think anyone who ends up being a poet or chooses to be a poet does so because you will never be asked to write. It's the opposite of on demand, there are no deadlines, no one's waiting for your next poem. It's a very... It changes... I mean, the main thing about writing on demand is you have to stick to the topic. That's something we learn as students in writing compositions, the five paragraph composition, introduction and conclusion, three something's in the middle, three points. Billy Collins: You have to stick to the topic. With an occasional poem, it's the same thing. If it's a poem about the death of the Queen Mother in England, you can't just drift off in the middle of that and talk about how your dog has fleas or something, whereas you can do that in a poem that's not on demand. It's fun to always drift away from the topic in poetry, for me at least, and to discover a topic in the process of writing. That's the imaginative freedom that poetry graces us with or allows you. You don't have that in writing an occasional poem or a poem on demand. However, once I found the word names, and the analogy, and all that, I did have enough imaginative freedom so that I could talk about seeing a name on a monogram on a torn shirt, or seeing a blue name needled into the skin, going into tattoos. Billy Collins: Names silent in stone, like on a gravestone, or the opposite of silent in stone, or cried out behind a door. I kind of charged myself with coming up with one good image after the other. The only one I regret is I think going out of the morning. Also, the poem has a diurnal organization, you might call it. It begins at night, and then this morning, and then in the evening. It kind of goes through an imaginary day, but that line about the flowers heavy with dew like the eyes of tears, I'd like to get rid of that. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: Really? Billy Collins: Yeah. Well, there's just too much there. Eyes, tears, and dew, there's too much going on. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: It's funny that you should bring up that line, because when I read the names, and still, I think of I wandered lonely as a cloud, and I know that you're an expert in words worth, and there are... I have always wondered and never asked you if you thought about the poet laureate of 1842 as you thought about writing this poem. Billy Collins: No, I don't think so. I don't think I was thinking of anybody in particular. I was born in New York, and I was a New Yorker then, and I was thinking of the imagery of New York. I have bridges, and tunnels, I have storefront windows, and the awnings, the unfurled awnings of the city. That was names rising in the updraft among buildings. So there's quite a bit of kind of urban imagery. Billy Collins: Now, I just have, in the evening, weakening like the last swallows, a boy on a lake lifts his oars. That has nothing to do with it. I can't just say the names in every line, so let this boy lift his oars in the evening. There's a moment of thoughtfulness there. It was actually pleasurable to write in that once I had the grid and the alphabet, it was, I don't want to say fill in the blanks, but indeed, there was a grid I was filling in with lines, and that made it very readable. Whereas when I got the phone call from Congress, it seemed like a totally impossible task. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: I can't even imagine being in that situation and my response would have been, "No, I don't..." I wouldn't have known how I could approach such a... It's an impossible ask. Billy Collins: Well, that was why I said I couldn't do it, but I figured out... But once the poem was underway, and once I'd figured out these constraints, then it rolled, because once it got moving, it rolled right to the end just about. I got to the final jolt of z, I could've ended it there, but I had more. I wanted names etched on the head of a pin, just an image of that. Then citizens, workers, mothers, names in the small tracts of birds goes back to that kind of Chinese myth I think about writing being invented by a man who watched the tracks of birds in the snow, or in the dirt, and saw those forums as a way of writing. Names lifted from a hat gets at the kind of randomness of who was killed there. Billy Collins: It's like a lottery. Some people I know, a friend of a friend, had to have... Her watch was broken, and she stopped in a jewelry shop to have her watch fixed, and it took a little while. Otherwise, she would have been on the 92nd floor of the World Trade Center. It was very much who was sick that day? Who was late for work? Where the plane happened to strike. It's still horrifying. I mean, we watched just the other night this Day in America, I think it's called. It's a long documentary, many part documentary, that's solely about 9/11. It does take you back to the shock of it. But remember that if you teach high school or even college, most of your students, and almost all of your students in high school, weren't born then. Billy Collins: Even many of your college students were toddlers. For a lot of us, it's really in the fabric of our unforgettable parts of our lives. We all remember being overwhelmed by it with fear and uncertainty. For me, it was the two towers had been hit, but then there was... they cut to Washington, and there was a correspondent with a microphone. Well in the background, because he didn't want to get near it, was the Pentagon on fire. That was really a mind blower, because now, it's not new... It was sort of a New York thing, if you will, but now it's the nation that's under attack. The last plan that was forced down, heroically, they still don't know if that was going for the Capitol or the White House, but it could have gone right into the Capitol of the White House. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: Were you in the city that day? Billy Collins: No, I was at home in Westchester County to the north, walking the dog. Usually drove the dog for her walk around this lake. So I was back in the car with the dog going back home, just a few miles, and NPR was on, and there was a fire in one of the Twin Towers, just a fire. That's all I knew. I have a really antiquated idea of what an office is. I thought somebody threw a match into a wastebasket, I don't know why I had that image, and that started a fire in some of the offices. When I got home, I didn't think anymore of it. Then, somebody, I forget who, called me and said, as your mother said, "Turn on the television." That's all they said, they just hung up. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: I don't know when exactly it was published, but you had just given George Plimpton a long interview. I have it in front of me, of course, where you talked about commemorative poetry and about the roots of commemorative poetry. Then you find yourself. That, to me, is a stunning coincidence that you should be actually having a conversation with George Plimpton. It was issue 159, came out in the fall of 2001, and then- Billy Collins: I'll look it up, I forgot that coincidence. I never realized that was a coincidence. The other coincidence was that the night before 9/11, September 10th, there was I'd say a pretty big book party for me at George Plimpton's house. My book, Sailing Alone Around the Room, had just come out. Paul McCartney was there and all sorts of interesting people. There was a terrible thunder and lightning storm that night and Plimpton's apartment was right on the East River, on 72nd Street. Billy Collins: The storm was so violent that the party actually kind of quieted down. Many people went over to the windows, and were watching this strobing lightning, and the glass and the windows actually trembling. That storm clear things out so that the next day was crystal clear, beautiful fall, autumn day in New York. For a while, it was called terrorist weather. I think pilots have a word for it. It's like super clear or ideal flying conditions, I guess. Then, many of my friends, I called them during the day of September 11th. They said, "That's the last party people are going to go to for a while." And it was. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: Returning to the poem just for a moment. I just want to read this line again, "Let X stand, if it can, for the ones unfound." And just a couple of other lines, "The bright eyed daughter, the quick sun, names wheeled into the dim warehouse of memory, so many names, there's barely room on the walls of the heart." Those lines, they make me choke up. And I'm I'm wondering in the writing, do you have moments where a line stops you? Billy Collins: Yeah. I mean, it does and I don't know where parley is, I don't know where the line comes from exactly. Once a poem is really underway, I think, personally, I feel my mind is on in a way that's it's not on, it's not fully on, and just walking around the house. And that on-ness of the mind really... things do come to you. I just thought sons and daughters, those are the big losses I think, and bright eyed and quick, just wanted to give a sense of what the vitality of a living person, quick, quick on his quick thinker. Athletically quick, but also like the quick in the dead. Quick means alive. And bright eyed is the same thing, a sign of life and also a sign of, well, vitality. I'm not thinking of any of that, the line just... it rolled out. I don't think... It's not exactly like thinking for us. What are some good images of vitality? They just rolled out and later you see what they mean. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: You also said to that you were very careful in the language that you chose for this poem or maybe in what you didn't choose. Billy Collins: I was walking a thin line. I mean, I'm using very basic imagery of named stitched into the cloth of the day. What else? Names outlined on the clouds. I'm avoiding political language, I'm avoiding words like terrorism or freedom. I'm avoiding the big language of politics and the big language of the big Latinate words of public language. I'm sticking with what poets know, which is green rows and fields, small tracts of birds, a hat, the tongue, the warehouse of memory, needles, pins. Notice that the word needle is two lines away from the word pin. Tunnel and bridge. So I'm using concrete language. I chose them carefully, but it's the natural language of poetry. I mean, James Wright I think said big words like constitution and independence, they just scare him. He finds them scary because they're so vague and can be used so loosely. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: You said to her, "It was picture languages, Emerson calls it. It was the language of the world, of rain, and windows, and reality." Billy Collins: Right. Well, that's good. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: That is good. It sounds good. Billy Collins: Who said that? Yeah, it's picture language. Children like picture language. It's the language that... It's that part of your growing up when you don't understand concepts. You understand train, plain, sun, toy, oatmeal. For me, poetry, I like to read poetry that returns to that simple language of childhood now that we are adults that understand more difficult things. Paradoxically, the best way to access those difficult, complex human thoughts, if you will, is really through the language of nature, the language of ordinary things. Billy Collins: The shovel, the toaster, the bookend, the glass of water. Yeah, the one thing you don't want to do is, in a poem like this, or maybe any poem, is to make the language emotional, because that's why the line about the tears I think is a little too emotional. You want the language to be very, very calm, very assured of itself. You don't want to get emotional, you want to make the reader emotional, but you can't do that by being emotional yourself. That actually creates a distance between you and the reader. You can just lure the reader in with more images, more pictures, one picture after the other. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: You say you follow a poem to its end, as opposed to if you come at a poem as, "I'm going to I have an idea and I'm going to write about it in a poem," you should just write an email. Billy Collins: Right. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: Right. Billy Collins: And don't send it to anybody. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: No, I would not do that. But did the ending surprise you? Billy Collins: Well, it's got to end somewhere. Names lifted from a hat, balance on the tip of the tongue, I could've kept going from there or not, maybe I'm running out of imagery at that point too, where you're just writing on rims, you've run out of rubber. But something summative had to be said at the end, I thought. You don't want to say in conclusion, but I thought names, plural, and now they're being stored away. They're no longer at play. In my imagination, they are being wheeled into this dim warehouse. Billy Collins: We're seeing them kind of get packaged and stored. Then, it's just so many names. Now, I mentioned 25 names, 25 letters. Well, I don't know how many names I mentioned. Yeah, I mentioned one for each letter, so exactly 25 names. But there are nearly 3,000 who lost their lives. I wanted to make sure that was said, there's so many names that have not been mentioned in this poem. So many it seems. The pro's way to put that would be to say so many names, it's emotionally overwhelming. The poetic way to say it is so many names, there's barely room on the walls of the heart. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: That's a beautiful way to end, unless you have other parting thoughts? Billy Collins: No, I thank you for giving me this opportunity to reflect on the poem, and to think a little bit about the 20 years that have passed since then, and how much has changed, and how much has not changed, really. So I'm very happy to talk about it, especially to a Holy Cross audience or people with Holy Cross interests. Marybeth Reilly-McGreen: Well, it's my honor, and we look forward to your next book, and to watching you on the on the on the broadcast. Billy Collins: Great. Oh, thank you very much. It's been a pleasure. Melissa Shaw: Thank you, Billy, and thank you, Marybeth. In the show notes for this episode, you will find links to Collins's notebooks and notes he used while writing The Names, the 2020 Holy Cross magazine profile of Collins, his website, and his popular Facebook page. Thank you for joining us today. I'm Melissa Shaw.

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