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What if the key to church growth isn't doing more ministry yourself, but empowering others to step in?In this episode, Dr. Eric Bryant sits down with prolific author and researcher Warren Bird to discuss the surprising trends in post-pandemic church health, the shift from attendance to attachment, and why the future of ministry depends on raising up the next generation of leaders.Warren shares insights from his latest book "Becoming a Future Ready Church" and unpacks practical wisdom about breaking growth barriers, building diverse communities, and why your communication skills matter more than you think.Whether you're leading a church of 50 or 5,000, this conversation will challenge and encourage you to think differently about what success really looks like.Get a chance to win a free copy of Warren Bird's book "Becoming a Future Ready Church" when you receive our email newsletter. Sign up for our newsletter at innovativechurchleaders.org Join us!Website: https://www.innovativechurchleaders.org/join-us/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InnovativeChurchLeaders Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InnovativeChurchLeaders/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/catalyzingcommunity/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/innovativechurchleaders LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/innovative-church-leaders/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@innovativechurchleaders Eric Bryant Website: https://ericbryant.org/ Eric Bryant Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ericmichaelbryant/ Eric Bryant Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericbryant/ Eric Bryant LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-bryant-397003172/ Eric Bryant X: https://x.com/ericbryant Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-post-christian-podcast/id1509588357 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ZeQIrzr2tCMyq1VdwxGNn
Are you measuring the wrong things in your church? Warren Bird, renowned author and church researcher, joins us to challenge conventional thinking about church growth and success.Fresh from analyzing data on thousands of churches, Warren shares encouraging news about post-pandemic recovery, the rising impact on young adults, and why the focus needs to shift from attendance numbers to genuine attachment and belonging.This conversation digs into practical leadership issues: How do you stop being the minister and become the minister maker? What does it really take to break through growth barriers? And why is improving your communication one of the most important investments you can make?If you've ever felt stuck doing all the ministry yourself or wondered how to prepare your church for an increasingly diverse future, this episode offers both hope and practical next steps.Get a chance to win a free copy of Warren Bird's book "Becoming a Future Ready Church" when you sign up for our email newsletter at innovativechurchleaders.org. Links:Website: https://innovativechurchleaders.org/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InnovativeChurchLeaders Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InnovativeChurchLeaders/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/catalyzingcommunity/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/innovativechurchleaders LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/innovative-church-leaders/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@innovativechurchleaders Eric Bryant Website: https://ericbryant.org/ Eric Bryant Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ericmichaelbryant/ Eric Bryant Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericbryant/ Eric Bryant LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-bryant-397003172/ Eric Bryant X: https://x.com/ericbryant Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-post-christian-podcast/id1509588357 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ZeQIrzr2tCMyq1VdwxGNn
Mandy Santos of Echo Church shares what spiritual formation looks like in Silicon Valley—one of the most de-churched regions in America. If you're wrestling with how to reach skeptics while discipling believers, this conversation is packed with practical wisdom.Mandy reveals why everything they expected about hostile secular culture turned out to be wrong. She walks through navigating major transitions, including when founding pastors Andy and Stacy Wood left for Saddleback Church, and shares the simple shift that's transformed their discipleship approach. You'll hear about their monthly "encounter nights" that create space for deeper formation without alienating Sunday seekers.After 17 years of ministry, Mandy offers honest insights on what's working. From helping atheists ask hard questions to rethinking how we introduce new believers to prayer, this episode gives you approaches you can implement in your context.Follow us! Website: https://innovativechurchleaders.org/ Website: https://innovativechurchleaders.org/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InnovativeChurchLeaders Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InnovativeChurchLeaders/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/catalyzingcommunity/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/innovativechurchleaders LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/innovative-church-leaders/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@innovativechurchleaders Eric Bryant Website: https://ericbryant.org/ Eric Bryant Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ericmichaelbryant/ Eric Bryant Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericbryant/ Eric Bryant LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-bryant-397003172/ Eric Bryant X: https://x.com/ericbryant Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-post-christian-podcast/id1509588357 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ZeQIrzr2tCMyq1VdwxGNn
What does ministry look like in one of America's most de-churched regions? This conversation explores the realities of leading in Silicon Valley, where traditional assumptions about secular culture often miss the mark.Mandy Santos, Spiritual Formation Pastor at Echo Church, shares honest reflections on ministry in the Bay Area:Why secular communities may be more receptive than expectedNavigating major leadership transitions while maintaining momentumBuilding environments where skeptics can ask genuine questionsThe shift from attractional models to formation-focused ministryRethinking first steps in discipleship and spiritual practicesWhether you're leading in a post-Christian context or want to create more intentional space for spiritual formation in your church, this conversation offers practical insights on balancing accessibility with depth.Links:Website: https://innovativechurchleaders.org/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InnovativeChurchLeaders Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InnovativeChurchLeaders/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/catalyzingcommunity/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/innovativechurchleaders LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/innovative-church-leaders/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@innovativechurchleaders Eric Bryant Website: https://ericbryant.org/ Eric Bryant Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ericmichaelbryant/ Eric Bryant Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericbryant/ Eric Bryant LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-bryant-397003172/ Eric Bryant X: https://x.com/ericbryant Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-post-christian-podcast/id1509588357 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ZeQIrzr2tCMyq1VdwxGNn
Luke LeFevre has been in rooms where God showed up in unexpected ways. From studying historic revivals like the 1950s Hebrides awakening to witnessing Saddleback Church's sacred assembly firsthand, he's watched a pattern emerge—one that suggests we're entering a decades-long season of spiritual renewal in the West.In this episode, Luke shares:Why Gen Z is attending church more than any other generation.The prophetic word he received while flying home from Scotland that changed everything for Saddleback.What Duncan Campbell's Hebrides revival teaches us about holiness and awakening today.Why Jesus' words to the church at Ephesus might be the most relevant message for Western churches right now.His bold prayer for 100 million people to choose to follow Jesus in North America.If you're a pastor or church leader who's been quietly contending for more—this conversation is for you.Links:Website: https://innovativechurchleaders.org/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InnovativeChurchLeaders Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InnovativeChurchLeaders/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/catalyzingcommunity/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/innovativechurchleaders LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/innovative-church-leaders/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@innovativechurchleaders Eric Bryant Website: https://ericbryant.org/ Eric Bryant Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ericmichaelbryant/ Eric Bryant Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericbryant/ Eric Bryant LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-bryant-397003172/ Eric Bryant X: https://x.com/ericbryant Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-post-christian-podcast/id1509588357 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ZeQIrzr2tCMyq1VdwxGNn
What if everything you've heard about declining church attendance is about to change? Luke LeFevre joins us to share what he's witnessing across North America—from college campuses to historic churches like Saddleback—and why he believes we're on the cusp of a 60-year movement of God.In this conversation, Luke pulls back the curtain on what happened at Saddleback's sacred assembly, shares his encounter with Andy Wood that started it all, and explains why Gen Z is now the most frequent church-attending generation in the West.But here's the challenge: Are our churches actually ready for what's coming?Luke doesn't hold back on what he believes the Western church has lost—and what needs to be restored before we can sustain a genuine move of God's Spirit.Whether you're a pastor feeling isolated in your hunger for revival or a church leader wondering what the next decade holds, this conversation will stir something in you.Learn more about Luke's work at LukeLeFevre.org.Website: https://innovativechurchleaders.org/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InnovativeChurchLeaders Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InnovativeChurchLeaders/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/catalyzingcommunity/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/innovativechurchleaders LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/innovative-church-leaders/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@innovativechurchleaders Eric Bryant Website: https://ericbryant.org/ Eric Bryant Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ericmichaelbryant/ Eric Bryant Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericbryant/ Eric Bryant LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-bryant-397003172/ Eric Bryant X: https://x.com/ericbryant Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-post-christian-podcast/id1509588357 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ZeQIrzr2tCMyq1VdwxGNn
Rich Birch of unSeminary.com breaks down the practical strategies that actually move the needle in church growth. If you've been frustrated by low guest retention or wondering why people aren't inviting their friends, this conversation is packed with actionable insights you can implement this week.Rich shares surprising data about why traditional marketing is losing its punch and what's replacing it in terms of actual effectiveness. He walks through his approach to building momentum in just 90 days and reveals a simple tweak that even mega-churches overlook. You'll also hear about a follow-up framework that changes everything and discover what churches need to stop saying on Sunday mornings if they want guests to actually take next steps.Having visited 22 churches and consulted with leaders across the country, Rich is seeing clear patterns in what's working right now. From weekend experiences to connection systems, this episode gives you practical steps you can start implementing immediately.
What if the secret to church growth isn't another marketing campaign, but something much simpler? Rich Birch, church growth consultant, speaker, and author of multiple books, shares eye-opening research that challenges how we think about reaching people—and why the most effective strategy is probably the one you're underutilizing.Rich walks through his framework for sparking momentum in just 90 days, starting with a shift in how you approach weekend teaching. He shares a story about consulting with a massive church that was missing one crucial element in their services—and how a simple fix created immediate opportunities for people to start inviting their friends.You'll also hear practical strategies for connecting with new guests, including why the language we commonly use on Sunday mornings might be creating confusion instead of clarity. Rich breaks down what actually works when it comes to gifts, follow-up sequences, and moving people from their first visit to genuine community.Whether you're ministering in a post-Christian context or seeing some growth, this episode gives you concrete next steps you can implement immediately.Rich shares practical wisdom on:Why trust in traditional marketing is declining (and what's rising instead)The teaching approach that naturally creates invite opportunitiesSimple language shifts that remove barriers for first-time guestsA follow-up framework that dramatically increases retentionReal patterns he's seeing from visiting churches across the countryThis episode will give you clarity on what actually moves the needle and remind you that sustainable growth is simpler than we think.Links:Website: https://innovativechurchleaders.org/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InnovativeChurchLeaders Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InnovativeChurchLeaders/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/catalyzingcommunity/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/innovativechurchleaders LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/innovative-church-leaders/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@innovativechurchleaders Eric Bryant Website: https://ericbryant.org/ Eric Bryant Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ericmichaelbryant/ Eric Bryant Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericbryant/ Eric Bryant LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-bryant-397003172/ Eric Bryant X: https://x.com/ericbryant Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-post-christian-podcast/id1509588357 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ZeQIrzr2tCMyq1VdwxGNn
What does it look like to lead a church that's anchored in Jesus when everything around you feels like it's being blown by political winds? Dr. Derwin Gray, lead pastor of Transformation Church, joins us for an honest conversation about staying focused on the kingdom of God in a divided culture. Derwin challenges us to stop using a 250-year-old country as our biblical filter and instead anchor our churches in first-century gospel truth. The result? A church family that's unified and a living example of Hope to those around them.Derwin shares the real secret behind their multi-ethnic church community and why he refuses to let the spirit of the age put him in a box. He talks about his book "Lit Up With Love" and why evangelism isn't about perfecting a sales pitch—it's about living so authentically in God's love that others are naturally drawn to what they see. If you're navigating leadership in these divisive times, this conversation will remind you that people are hungry for the Jesus of Scripture, not a left or right version.
Dr. N.T. Wright joins us to dismantle Western Christianity's Platonized afterlife theology and reclaim the Bible's actual vision: God renewing all creation. In this essential conversation for pastors and church leaders, Wright explains how the early church absorbed Greek philosophy's "souls escaping to heaven" instead of maintaining the biblical hope for resurrected bodies in a renewed heaven and earth. He traces how this wrong turn led to moralizing salvation, paganizing atonement, and sidelining the church's responsibility for justice, beauty, and reconciliation NOW.Wright unpacks Ephesians' three-movement vision (1:10, 2:10, 3:10): heaven and earth united in Christ, the church as God's workmanship displaying new creation, and believers revealing God's multi-colored wisdom to spiritual powers. He addresses the "angry God" caricature, clarifies substitutionary atonement, and offers practical wisdom for leading congregations into renewal through prayer, beauty, and courageous witness.Links:Website: https://innovativechurchleaders.org/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@InnovativeChurchLeaders Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/InnovativeChurchLeaders/ Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/catalyzingcommunity/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/innovativechurchleaders LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/innovative-church-leaders/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@innovativechurchleaders N.T. Wright Website: https://www.admirato.org/pages/ntw-online Pastoral Cohort with N.T. Wright: https://innovativechurchleaders.org/cohort/Eric Bryant Website: https://ericbryant.org/ Eric Bryant Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ericmichaelbryant/ Eric Bryant Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericbryant/ Eric Bryant LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-bryant-397003172/ Eric Bryant X: https://x.com/ericbryant Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-post-christian-podcast/id1509588357 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ZeQIrzr2tCMyq1VdwxGNn #NTWright #churchleadership #pastoralministry #newcreationtheology #kingdomofGod #Ephesians #resurrectiontheology #biblicaleschatology #EricBryant #innovativechurchleaders #pastoralcohort #churchrenewal #biblicalworldview
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Paul Johnson and his son Drew Johnson. Paul served for years as lead pastor of Woodridge Church near Minneapolis. Now he serves as Generosity Pastor and his son Drew leads Mercy Hill Church nearby and Aspen Grove, their network of churches.They share about the successful succession and their unique way of networking rather than campusing or church planting.
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Dr. Lucy Peppiatt, the President of Westminster Theological Centre in Bristol, England. Lucy discusses ministry in a post-Christian context, the importance of training the next generation of pastors, and the role of theology in effective ministry. She emphasizes the need for a deeper understanding of God's love and the importance of empowering women in the church. .
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Stan Jantz, the Global Ambassador for the Come and See Foundation which funds the global television phenomenon - The Chosen.Stan discusses the current challenges and opportunities in church leadership, the importance of storytelling in conveying the message of Jesus, the vision behind the series 'The Chosen', and its impact on faith and discipleship.
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Glen Scrivener of Speak Life Media and author of The Air We Breathe: How We All Came to Believe in Freedom, Kindness, Progress, and Equality and How to Speak Life.Glen shares about the emerging interest in faith among youth and the importance of empowering laypeople for evangelism.The conversation also touches on navigating the intersection of politics and the kingdom of God, emphasizing the role of the church in societal change.
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews J.D. Pearring, the founder of the Excel Leadership Network. J.D. shares about the importance of raising up new leaders in the church, the challenges faced by church planters, and the significance of coaching and mentorship in leadership development.
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Jon Chasteen, pastor at Victory Church and founder of Re-Leaders. Jon shares about rebuilding trust after a pastor's moral failure along with the critical role of re-leaders in church revitalization and raising up leaders.
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Michael Warden, executive coach and author of the epic fantasy series The Pearlsong Refounding.Michael delves into understanding one's identity for personal and ministry momentum.
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Jeff Rosene from Kids Around the World.Jeff discusses generational change in communities through a unique strategy that combines food, play, and discipleship.
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Andy Steiger, founder of Apologetics Canada. Andy shares about the role of love in apologetics, the need for moral character in church leadership, and humanizing the gospel in a dehumanized world
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Raj Pillai, Chief of Staff of Exponential. Raj shares about reproducing churches, his journey from India into church leadership, the importance of art in expressing faith, and innovative approaches churches are taking to engage their communities and make disciples.
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Mark Matlock, the Executive Director of the Urbana Student Missions Conference, the founder of WisdomWorks Ministries, Senior Fellow at Barna, and author of over 20 books.Mark shares about the significance of the Urbana conference, insights on church trends, and the need for spiritual formation and resilience in discipleship.
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Jesse Cruickshank, a neuro-ecclesiologist and author of Ordinary Discipleship: How God Wires Us for the Adventure of TransformationJessie shares about how understanding our biology can enhance spiritual growth and transformation, and she introduces Whoology, a resource aimed at helping churches shift their culture towards effective discipleship.
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Dr. Julio Guarneri, the executive director of Texas Baptists.Dr. Guarneri emphasizes the importance of holistic ministry that addresses both physical and spiritual needs in order to reach a diverse mission field. He also reflects on the global church's role in fulfilling the Great Commission.Join us and Dr. Guarneri at the Beyond Us Conference in October 2025 in Waco, TX.
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Tom Lin, the president and CEO of InterVarsity.Tom shares about God's work on college campuses, the Urbana Student Missions Conference, the importance of mobilizing for global missions, along with insights from his experiences at Harvard and in Mongolia.Join us and Tom at the Beyond Us Conference in October 2025 in Waco, TX.
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Bill Walker, the Director of Hill House at the University of Texas at Austin. Bill emphasizes the importance of a theology of work and vocational formation. He shares about the challenges and opportunities of engaging college students in a post-Christian environment.
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Dr. Bob Roberts Jr., the founder of GlocalNet, a ministry dedicated to mobilizing the church to bring about transformation in the public square, co-founder of the Multi-Faith Neighbors Network, an organization committed to promoting religious freedom through intentional cross-cultural relationships.Bob shares insights on the spiritual renewal among younger generations, the importance of mobilizing faith in the public square, and engaging with other faiths. He also discusses the upcoming Beyond Us Conference and shares a personal Holy Ghost story and the rapid movement of God.
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Trudi Sayers, the national director of 24-7 Prayer in Australia and prayer director at Red Church in Melbourne.They discuss the origins of the 24-7 Prayer movement, the importance of building a culture of prayer within churches, and the renewal that can come through prayer.
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Kevin Palau, president of Palau. What does evangelism look like in a progressive city? In this episode, Kevin Palau shares how churches in Portland moved from isolation to collaboration—focusing on service, unity, and humility. Learn how Together PDX and SharePDX are reshaping outreach and how you can lead with boldness and grace in your city.5 Key Takeaways:Community Service Opens Doors for EvangelismServing the city builds credibility and opens hearts to the gospel in ways traditional methods often don't.Humility Opens DoorsEngaging local leaders with respect—not an agenda—creates long-term influence and trust.Church Unity Fuels ImpactIn progressive cities like Portland, collaboration among churches is essential for meaningful outreach.Intentional Evangelism Still MattersWhile service is vital, clearly sharing about Jesus must remain central and deliberate.If It Works in Portland, It Can Work AnywhereThe transformation happening in one of the most unchurched cities in America offers hope—and a model—for every community.Follow Us:Stay connected and never miss an episode!• YouTube: @InnovativeChurchLeaders• Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-post-christian-podcast/id1509588357 •Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ZeQIrzr2tCMyq1VdwxGNn • Facebook: / InnovativeChurchLeaders• TikTok: / InnovativeChurchLeaders• Instagram: / InnovativeChurchLeaders Subscribe & Share:If you found this episode helpful, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with fellow leaders and friends to help pastors experience and bring renewal.Key Moments with Timestamps:00:00 Introduction to Kevin Palau and His Mission02:47 The Evolution of Evangelism in Portland05:45 Together PDX: Building Community Through Service08:33 The Shift to Intentional Evangelism11:33 Lessons from the Book 'Unlikely'14:20 Navigating Challenges in a Progressive City17:06 The Importance of Humility and Collaboration19:49 Reflections on Impact and Future DirectionsHead over to innovativechurchleaders.org for additional resources and subscribe to stay updated on future episodes.#InnovativeChurchLeaders #innovation #KingdomofGod #EricBryant #ChurchLeadership #outreach #Discipleship #Evangelism #ChurchHealth #Pastors #creativity #jesus #christianity #faith #faithinaction #renewal #Kevin Palau #LuisPalau #Palau #TogetherPDX #SharePDX #communityservice #Portland #churchunity #humility
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Chris Clayman of the Joshua Project, an organization that highlights peoples and places with the least access or response to the gospelChris shares about the importance of reaching unreached people groups and the innovative ways churches can engage in global missions. Join us at the Beyond Us Conference in October 2025 in Waco, TX.
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Sarah Jackson from Revitalise Trust.Sarah shares about the revitalization of the Church of England, the impact of leadership development, and the return of young people to faith.
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Jimmy Dorrell, founder of Mission Waco Mission World.They discuss Jimmy's ministry serving the poor and shares about the importance of stepping out of comfort zones and entering the pain of those in need.Join us at the Beyond Us Conference in October 2025 in Waco, TX.
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Christine Caine who shares her insights on the global movement of God, the importance of discipleship, and the church's role in justice and mission work. Christine's personal testimony and her work with A21 which seeks to end slavery highlight the transformative power of faith and the urgency of action in today's society.Join us and Christine at the Beyond Us Conference in October 2025 at Baylor University.
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Lee Coate about his new book, Seasons of Life and Leadership.Lee has served in ministry for decades in Las Vegas and coaches pastors through The Growmentum Group. 5 Key Takeaways:1. Understanding the transitions between leadership seasons is crucial for impact.2. A spiritual awakening is occurring in many churches post-COVID.3. Church leaders should be both spirit-led and strategically aware.4. Raising children in ministry requires careful exposure to the realities of church life.5. Leaders should always be learning and open to being beginners in new areas.Follow Us:Stay connected and never miss an episode!• YouTube: @EricBryant777 • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-post-christian-podcast/id1509588357 •Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ZeQIrzr2tCMyq1VdwxGNn • Facebook: / innovativechurchleaders• TikTok: / innovativechurchleaders• LinkedIn: / eric-bryant-397003172 Subscribe & Share:If you found this episode helpful, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with fellow leaders and friends! Let's continue helping church leaders reach people and make disciples in our increasingly post-Christian world.Key Moments with Timestamps:00:00 - Introduction to Seasons of Life and Leadership02:31 - Navigating the Sage Season05:05 - Hope and Inspiration Post-COVID10:10 - Balancing Spirit-Led and Strategic Leadership13:43 - Raising Kids in Ministry17:08 - Conclusion and Call to ActionHead over to www.ericbryant.org for additional resources and subscribe to stay updated on future episodes.#InnovativeChurchLeaders #innovation #KingdomofGod #EricBryant #ChurchLeadership #outreach #Discipleship #Evangelism #ChurchHealth #Pastors #creativity #jesus #christianity #faith #faithinaction #renewal #PostChristianPodcast #PreachersKids #PKs #SpiritualAwakening #Leadership #SeasonsOfLife #PastorsCoach #Parentinginministry #personalgrowth
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Dr. Tim Yee about the Tru Center assessment, which helps individuals understand their motivations and how these insights can enhance church leadership and team dynamics. 5 Key Takeaways:1. The Tru Center assessment simplifies motivations into eight dimensions.2. Understanding motivations can enhance team dynamics and helps identify patterns of fruitfulness.3. Facilitator training is accessible and impactful for church leaders.4. Urbana Conference will feature Tru Center for all attendees.5. Tru Center aids in mobilizing church members for service and fosters collaboration in ministry.Follow Us:Stay connected and never miss an episode!• YouTube: @EricBryant777 • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-post-christian-podcast/id1509588357 •Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ZeQIrzr2tCMyq1VdwxGNn • Facebook: / innovativechurchleaders• TikTok: / innovativechurchleaders• LinkedIn: / eric-bryant-397003172 Subscribe & Share:If you found this episode helpful, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with fellow leaders and friends! Let's continue helping church leaders reach people and make disciples in our increasingly post-Christian world.Key Moments with Timestamps:00:00 - Understanding the Tru Center Assessment03:33 - Exploring the Eight Dimensions of Motivation06:09 - Facilitator Training and Impact on Church Leadership08:53 - Urbana Conference and Its Significance11:57 - Mobilizing Church Members for ServiceHead over to www.ericbryant.org for additional resources and subscribe to stay updated on future episodes.#InnovativeChurchLeaders #innovation #KingdomofGod #EricBryant #ChurchLeadership #outreach #Discipleship #Evangelism #ChurchHealth #Pastors #creativity #jesus #christianity #faith #faithinaction #renewal #PostChristianPodcast #TruCenter #motivations #assessment, #Urbana #UrbanaConference #teamdynamics #TimYee
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Craig Whitney, the founder and president of Multiply Project and author of The Antioch Way: Become a Multiplying Church by Equipping and Sending Church Planters.5 Key Takeaways:1. The need for more church planters is critical.2. Local church planters are more effective than imported ones.3. Financial sustainability is a major challenge for new churches.4. Training should occur within the local church context.5. The Antioch model emphasizes calling, equipping, sending, and celebrating.Follow Us:Stay connected and never miss an episode!• YouTube: @EricBryant777 • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-post-christian-podcast/id1509588357 •Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ZeQIrzr2tCMyq1VdwxGNn • Facebook: / innovativechurchleaders• TikTok: / innovativechurchleaders• LinkedIn: / eric-bryant-397003172 Subscribe & Share:If you found this episode helpful, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with fellow leaders and friends! Let's continue helping church leaders reach people and make disciples in our increasingly post-Christian world.Key Moments with Timestamps:00:00 The Journey of Church Planting03:18 Cultural Shifts in Church Planting06:02 Characteristics of Effective Church Planters08:58 Training and Resources for Church Planters11:43 The Antioch Model of Church Planting14:37 Reimagining Church Leadership17:07 Mindset Shifts for MultiplicationHead over to www.ericbryant.org for additional resources and subscribe to stay updated on future episodes.#InnovativeChurchLeaders #innovation #KingdomofGod #EricBryant #ChurchLeadership #outreach #Discipleship #Evangelism #ChurchHealth #Pastors #creativity #jesus #christianity #faith #faithinaction #renewal #PostChristianPodcast #ChurchPlanting #CraigWhitney #multiplication #AntiochWay
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interview Kelsey O'Connor shares her inspiring journey from being a Division I softball player to facing life-altering injuries that challenged her identity and faith. Through her recovery, she found strength in her relationship with God and learned to redefine herself beyond her accomplishments. 5 Key Takeaways:1. Kelsey's injury led to a profound identity crisis.2. Faith played a crucial role in recovering and redefining her identity beyond athletics.3. Kelsey emphasizes the importance of seeing people's character.4. Her viral speech inspired many to live a life beyond labels.5. Describing people by their attributes fosters genuine connections.Follow Us:Stay connected and never miss an episode!• YouTube: @EricBryant777 • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-post-christian-podcast/id1509588357 •Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ZeQIrzr2tCMyq1VdwxGNn • Facebook: / innovativechurchleaders• TikTok: / innovativechurchleaders• LinkedIn: / eric-bryant-397003172 Subscribe & Share:If you found this episode helpful, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with fellow leaders and friends! Let's continue helping church leaders reach people and make disciples in our increasingly post-Christian world.Key Moments with Timestamps:00:00 Kelsey's Journey: From Athlete to Advocate03:40 Faith and Identity: Finding Strength in God06:39 The Power of Perspective: Describing People Differently09:33 Inspiring Change: Kelsey's Viral Speech and Its ImpactHead over to www.ericbryant.org for additional resources and subscribe to stay updated on future episodes.#InnovativeChurchLeaders #innovation #KingdomofGod #EricBryant #ChurchLeadership #outreach #Discipleship #Evangelism #ChurchHealth #Pastors #creativity #jesus #christianity #faith #faithinaction #renewal #PostChristianPodcast #KelseyOConnor #identity #healing #mentalhealth #resilience #peacewithGod #peacefromGod #viralvideo
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant talks with Rob Kelly, cofounder of the City Leaders Collective and co-author of Metanoia (with Alan Hirsch). Rob unpacks the power of church unity, the role of networks in city transformation, and the mindset shift needed for true innovation in ministry. Drawing from his upcoming book The Four Greats, Rob challenges leaders to move beyond silos, partner for impact, and reimagine what it means to serve their cities for holistic flourishing.5 Key Takeaways:1. Unity among churches is essential for effective ministry.2. The City Leaders Collective supports holistic city flourishing.3. Metanoia represents a radical shift in mindset for leaders.4. Church leaders should view other churches as teammates, not competitors.5. Engaging with the community can revitalize church leadership. Follow Us:Stay connected and never miss an episode!• YouTube: @EricBryant777 • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-post-christian-podcast/id1509588357 •Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ZeQIrzr2tCMyq1VdwxGNn • Facebook: / catalyzingcommunity • TikTok: / ericbryant777 • LinkedIn: / eric-bryant-397003172 Subscribe & Share:If you found this episode helpful, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with fellow leaders and friends! Let's continue helping church leaders reach people and make disciples in our increasingly post-Christian world.Key Moments with Timestamps:00:00 Building Unity in the Church03:58 The Power of Networks in Community Service06:59 Creating a Collective for City Leaders09:37 The Importance of Metanoia in Church Leadership12:14 Encouragement for Church Leaders to InnovateHead over to www.ericbryant.org for additional resources and subscribe to stay updated on future episodes.#InnovativeChurchLeaders #innovation #KingdomofGod #EricBryant #ChurchLeadership #outreach #Discipleship #Evangelism #ChurchHealth #Pastors #creativity #jesus #christianity #faith #faithinaction #renewal #PostChristianPodcast #unity #communityservice #networks #cityleaders #collaboration #leadership #flourishing #metanoia #alanhirsch
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews medical doctor and apologist Dr. Raphael Samuel of Apologetics Canada. Raphael discusses the historical and medical evidence supporting the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, the archaeological findings that corroborate the Gospel accounts, and the implications of the human body's complexity as evidence of God's existence. 5 Key Takeaways:1. Historical records support the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus which is central to Christianity's truth claims.2. Medical evidence aligns with Gospel accounts of Jesus' suffering.3. The complexity of the human brain points to a Creator.4. Atheism struggles to explain free will and consciousness.5. The human body reflects God's handiwork. Follow Us:Stay connected and never miss an episode!• YouTube: @EricBryant777 • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-post-christian-podcast/id1509588357 •Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ZeQIrzr2tCMyq1VdwxGNn • Facebook: / catalyzingcommunity • TikTok: / ericbryant777 • LinkedIn: / eric-bryant-397003172 Subscribe & Share:If you found this episode helpful, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with fellow leaders and friends! Let's continue helping church leaders reach people and make disciples in our increasingly post-Christian world.Key Moments with Timestamps:00:00 – Introduction & Guest BackgroundMeet Dr. Raphael Samuel: medical doctor, apologist, and voice for historical Christianity.02:25 – The Medical Reality of CrucifixionWhat ancient history and modern medicine reveal about Roman crucifixion and Jesus' death.08:55 – Did Jesus Really Sweat Blood?A rare medical condition in Gethsemane supports Luke's Gospel account.18:50 – Eyewitness Detail: Blood and WaterHow John's Gospel describes a medically accurate account of Jesus' death.19:45 – The Human Body Points to GodHow DNA, consciousness, and biology give evidence for a Creator.Head over to www.ericbryant.org for additional resources and subscribe to stay updated on future episodes.#InnovativeChurchLeaders #innovation #KingdomofGod #EricBryant #ChurchLeadership #outreach #Discipleship #Evangelism #ChurchHealth #Pastors #creativity #jesus #christianity #faith #faithinaction #renewal #PostChristianPodcast #DrRaphaelSamuel #medicaldoctor #apologetics #apologeticscanada #proofofGod #EvidenceofGod #ProofofDesigner #DNA #Crucifixion #Resurrection
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Josh Thompson from The Pastorate in Canada.From their website:"Together, we're building the Church of tomorrow, today. The Pastorate comes alongside pastors in Canada to strengthen their heart, skill, and vision to equip them for a lifetime of faithful, vibrant ministry."5 Key Takeaways:1. The Pastorate.ca aims to invest in Canadian pastors in the midst of a pastoral crisis.2. Building meaningful friendships among pastors is crucial.3. There is a growing hunger for faith among young people.4. Pastors are facing new challenges in discipleship with skeptics.5. Personal health and emotional well-being are essential for pastors. Follow Us:Stay connected and never miss an episode!• YouTube: @EricBryant777 • Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-post-christian-podcast/id1509588357 •Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6ZeQIrzr2tCMyq1VdwxGNn • Facebook: / catalyzingcommunity • TikTok: / ericbryant777 • LinkedIn: / eric-bryant-397003172 Subscribe & Share:If you found this episode helpful, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with fellow leaders and friends! Let's continue helping church leaders reach people and make disciples in our increasingly post-Christian world.Key Moments with Timestamps:00:00 - Addressing the Pastoral Crisis in Canada03:32 - Investing in Pastors: Strategies and Initiatives06:19 - The Renewal Movement: A New Hope for the Church09:14 - Engaging Skeptics: Questions and Curiosities12:14 - Preparing for Renewal: Pastoral Health and Support15:12 - Stories of Transformation: From Burnout to Renewal17:40 - Encouragement for Pastors: The Importance of Their WorkHead over to www.ericbryant.org for additional resources and subscribe to stay updated on future episodes.#InnovativeChurchLeaders #innovation #KingdomofGod #EricBryant #ChurchLeadership #outreach #Discipleship #Evangelism #ChurchHealth #Pastors #creativity #jesus #christianity #faith #faithinaction #renewal #PostChristianPodcast #canadapastors #thepastorate
In this episode of the Innovative Church Leaders podcast, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Brad Sarian, who shares his transformative journey from a complementarian perspective to advocating for women in church leadership. Brad serves as the Lead Pastor of Restored L.A. in Chatsworth, CA. Restored is part of the Restored Family of Churches which shares the same vision, mission, and values. They work closely together to plant churches, make disciples of Jesus, and bring the Gospel to the nations.5 Key Takeaways:1. Brad shares his journey towards a significant shift in understanding women's roles in church leadership.2. The process of ordaining women elders has been met with both support and resistance.3. Emotional narratives and cultural interpretations often influence people's views on church leadership more than biblical arguments.4. The interpretation of key biblical passages is crucial in understanding women's roles in the church.5. The Bible promotes liberation and equality among genders in the church.
In this episode, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Dr. Mike Slaughter, pastor emeritus of Ginghamsburg Church shares his journey in ministry, emphasizing the importance of innovation, discipleship, and social justice. Mike also reflects on his global impact, particularly in Sudan, and encourages pastors to focus on truth and service rather than mere church attendance.5 Key Takeaways:1. Discipleship is about discovering spiritual gifts and serving others.2. The church must address both physical and spiritual needs.3. True discipleship involves going where others won't go.4. The Sermon on the Mount serves as the constitution of the Kingdom of God.5. Innovation in ministry and global outreach can transform lives and communities.Mike is the author of several books including the following:Renegade Gospel: The Rebel JesusChange the World: Recovering the Message and Mission of JesusUnLearning ChurchDare to Dream: Creating a God-Sized Mission Statement for Your Life
In this episode, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Dr. Nijay Gupta, a New Testament scholar, author, and professor at Northern Seminary. Nijay invites us to rediscover the wonder of the Bible and the radical nature of early Christianity. He explores how the early church's unity, generosity, and deep respect for human dignity can inspire modern Christians to live with greater intentionality, love, and purpose.Nijay is the author of the following books:The Affections of Christ Jesus: Love at the Heart of Paul's TheologyStrange Religion: How the First Christians Were Weird, Dangerous, and CompellingTell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church15 New Testament Words of Life: A New Testament Theology for Real LifePaul and the Language of Faith5 Key Takeaways:1. The Bible should be approached with wonder and imagination.2. Early Christians were radical in their faith and actions.3. Unity among Christians is lacking and needs to be addressed.4. The church must confront its failures and scandals honestly.5. Returning to the foundational teachings of Jesus is essential for renewal.
In this episode, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Mike and Lori McDaniel about the Great Invitation, a ministry focused on providing soul care and support for pastors and church leaders. They discuss the challenges of burnout, the importance of community, and the need for spiritual direction. From their website:"In a world that demands more, The Great Invitation offers something different: a spacious call back to the presence of God. We create sacred spaces where leaders, missionaries, and teams can be renewed—not by doing more, but by returning to the One who restores the soul."5 Key Takeaways:1. Ministry can be exhausting and isolating for leaders. 2. The Great Invitation focuses on soul care for ministry leaders. 3. Creating safe spaces for healing is essential. 4. Spiritual direction can change the trajectory of ministry. 5. Healthy leaders lead healthier ministries.
In this episode, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Margaret Feinberg about her new book, The God You Need to Know: Experience the Holy Spirit's Power and Presence Today, which explores the role of the Holy Spirit in the lives of believers.Margaret is a popular Bible teacher, speaker at churches and conferences, host of The Joycast podcast, and author of Scouting the Divine, Fight Back With Joy, Taste and See, among many others. She was recently named one of 50 women most shaping culture and the church today by Christianity Today. 5 Key Takeaways:The Holy Spirit is present in moments of pain and loss.Gideon's story teaches us about discernment and questioning God.The Holy Spirit can guide us through dreams and personal experiences.Practicing awareness of the Holy Spirit can transform lives.Community is essential in the discernment process.
In this episode, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Naeem Fazal about the rebuilding phase many churches are experiencing, the importance of diversity, and the need to reclaim the true message of Jesus. Naeem shares insights from his new book, Tomorrow Needs You: Seeing Beauty When You Feel Hopeless, which emphasizes finding beauty in pain and the power of community support in overcoming hopelessness.Naeem is the founding and lead pastor of Mosaic Church in Charlotte, North Carolina. He is a Pakistani, born and raised as a Muslim in Kuwait. He came to the United States shortly after the Gulf War and had a supernatural experience with Christ that changed the course of his life.. 5 Key Takeaways:1. Post-pandemic ministry has been challenging but also an opportunity for growth.2. Innovative partnerships can lead to unexpected benefits for churches.3. Reclaiming the message of Jesus is essential for modern ministry.4. Beauty can be a powerful antidote to fear and hopelessness.5. Creating a culture of hope is vital for church growth and engagement.
In this episode, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Dr. Ross Chandler about his book In His Image: A Biblical, Historical, and Practical Argument for Women in Ministry Leadership which argues for the inclusion of women in ministry leadership. They discuss the biblical foundations for women's roles in the church, the cultural challenges faced, and the importance of empowering both men and women in ministry. 5 Key Takeaways:Ross Chandler's book 'In His Image' provides a biblical argument for women's roles in the church.Cultural perceptions often hinder the acceptance of women in leadership.Biblical passages that support women's leadership are often overlooked.The church needs to equip and empower both men and women for ministry.The ultimate goal is to reverse the curse and reflect the kingdom of God on earth.
In this episode, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Robby Emery about his book Pick Me: A Story of Belonging. Robby serves as the Director of Character Development for Michigan Football, along with being the team chaplain.5 Key Takeaways:Robby Emery emphasizes the importance of character development in young men.Leaders must be sensitive to the emotional needs of those they lead.Robby's book 'Pick Me' addresses the culture of belonging.Intimacy in relationships is essential for strong connections.Self-worth is crucial for valuing others.
In this episode, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews Dr. Amy Orr-Ewing, a theologian, author, speaker, and founder of The Advocate Collective.Amy shares about the resurgence of interest in Christianity in the U.K. and how the church can engage with the spiritually curious through bold preaching and compassion for the vulnerable.Amy is the author of the following books:Lead Like the Real You: Wisdom for Women on Finding Your Voice, Pursuing God's Calling, and Leading with CourageBut Is It Real?: Answering 10 Common Objections To The Christian FaithWhy Trust the Bible? (Revised and updated): Answers to Ten Tough QuestionsWhere Is God in All the Suffering?5 Key Takeaways:1. The Lord is actively working in the UK, drawing people to faith.2. Prayer and cultural engagement are essential for spiritual renewal.3. The church must address the questions of suffering and injustice.4. Survivors of abuse need to be heard and supported.5. The church's response to harm and injustice reflects its values.
In this episode, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews interviews Steve Kim from Apologetics Canada. They discuss the importance of apologetics in the church, the uniqueness of Jesus compared to other religions, and the necessity of biblical literacy in developing a strong Christian worldview. The conversation also delves into the implications of transhumanism and the ethical considerations surrounding technology and humanity's future.5 Key Takeaways:1. Steve Kim's journey into apologetics stemmed from his own spiritual questions.2. Apologetics Canada aims to equip the church with resources for a robust faith.3. Understanding the uniqueness of Jesus is crucial in discussions about faith.4. Biblical literacy is essential for developing a strong Christian worldview.5. Transhumanism raises important ethical questions about humanity's future.
In this episode, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews three generations of the Neighbour family, all of whom are involved in ministry. Prolific author and church leader for decades Ralph Neighbour, Jr., his son Ralph Neighbour III of Converge Coaching, and his grandson Nathan Neighbour, pastor of Humanity Church in Pomona, CA discuss the significance of legacy, innovation, and the anointing in ministry, as well as the commitment to empowering the next generation of leaders.5 Key Takeaways:The Neighbour family has a rich legacy of ministry spanning generations.Each generation adapts ministry to meet the unique challenges of their time.Prayer has been a foundational element in the Neighbour family's ministry.Recognizing one's anointing is crucial for effective leadership.The importance of authentic community in ministry cannot be overstated.
In this episode, Dr. Eric Bryant interviews McLaren Lewis, pastor of Mosaic London.McLaren shares his journey to faith, the challenges of ministry in a post-Christian context like London, and the vision behind Mosaic London, a church plant of Mosaic in Los Angeles. He emphasizes the importance of community, discipleship, and the need for church leaders to remain encouraged and active in their calling. McLaren's insights reflect a deep understanding of the complexities of modern ministry and the necessity of building genuine relationships within the church.5 Key Takeaways:1. Ministry in London is challenging due to people's guarded nature.2. Mosaic London aims to help individuals discover their purpose.3. Community and relationships are vital for church growth.4. Discipleship involves teaching others to teach.5. The church's foundation is built on community and shared experiences.
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