The Adrenaline Zone

The Adrenaline Zone shines a spotlight today on the deadly fentanyl crisis in the US as Sandy and Sandra interview Mike Sena, Director of Northern California's High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area (HIDTA). Mike reveals the grim realities of the epidemic and the complex battle to combat it, offering a unique perspective from his undercover background and current role. He also highlights the power of a multi-pronged strategy to save lives in this fierce battle against fentanyl poisoning.

“Both engines died instantly, the hit was so hard. I immediately just kind of lay down on my bed because I knew how bad the impact was going to be. It threw my bed all the way across the room, dresser laid over, refrigerators downstairs on the floor - it was a hard impact.” Captain Doicus Langley Jr. joins Sandy and Sandra on the podcast today to share details of this perilous moment and so much more as he recounts his journey from a water-loving childhood to becoming a seasoned push boat Captain on the Mississippi River. Along the way, he discusses the contrasting experiences of working on rivers versus open water and the unique challenges of river navigation. Reflecting on the evolving technology in tugboat operations, Captain Langley describes the logistics of moving cargo from Minnesota to New Orleans as well as the immense horsepower required for steering and speed. After highlighting the competitive nature of the maritime industry and the collaborative spirit among river captains, this very special guest draws the episode to a conclusion with some valuable advice for aspiring captains, underscoring the dedication needed for a successful career in river navigation. Episode Highlights: Captain Langley Jr.'s upbringing and early love of being on the water His perspective on working on rivers vs. open water Becoming a Captain The evolution of tug operation over the years Tugs and barges The competitive side of the industry Moving a load from Minnesota to New Orleans A tug's horsepower, steering, and speed Navigating the Mississippi's hazards Running aground The Captain's worst incident His crew and its work dynamic His relationship with other Captains Advice for aspiring tug or push boat Captains Key Takeaways: "Not only does a good cook cook good food, they can be the person who kind of holds everything together because they're down there in the center of the whole boat." "Typically, people that start in the river industry stay there.” "Within a five year period, you can be sitting in the wheelhouse running a boat, maybe not as a captain, but as a pilot." "The southbound vessel proposes the place and manner of passing, while the northbound vessel has more control." "You have to, at some point in your career, be able to dedicate yourself to the boat while you're on the boat." “It can be great. I mean, it really is like a family away from home. It can also be as bad as you can imagine like a squabbling family at home, you know, like, you're having issues. So it can go both directions.” “There's definitely a huge need for people out on the river for merchant mariners in general.” Keep the adrenaline rush going at: Homepage: theadrenalinezone.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theadrenalinezone/ X: https://twitter.com/Adrenalinezonep TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theadrenalinezone  Captain Doicus Langley Jr.'s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/doicus-r-langley-Jr.-24b25b95/

Spotlight tight, hometown faces fill the hall – a mix of pride and pressure. Baton raised, you begin to lead the revered National Orchestra through a score that explodes into a whirlwind of notes demanding perfect harmony. Suddenly, a discordant note cuts through. The soloist, a celebrated artist in his own right, takes an unscheduled detour into a different Mozart concerto! Stunned, the orchestra looks up as one, eyes filled with bewilderment and fear trained squarely on you - a silent question hanging in the air: What do we do? Welcome to the exhilarating world of contemporary music conducting as maestro Ángel Gil-Ordóñez joins Sandra and Sandy for a thoroughly enlightening episode. Co-founder of Washington D.C.'s PostClassical Ensemble, Ángel and his journey from Madrid to international acclaim shed light on the artistry and complexities of wielding the baton. Together with our hosts, he discusses some surprising parallels between engineering and music, the emotional rollercoaster of leading an orchestra, and his innovative methods for captivating new audiences with classical music. By exploring the significance of audience energy and the magic of spontaneity, this episode offers a captivating look at the conductor's life, including its various trials and triumphs. Tune in for an inspiring exploration of exactly how Ángel Gil-Ordóñez draws upon creativity and passion to bring music to vivid life. Episode Highlights: 0:00 Start 0:33 Introduction 1:52 Where Ángel found his passion for music 5:48 Overlapping themes between engineering and music 6:38 The path to becoming a professional musician and conductor 11:57 The instruments Ángel plays 12:55 Composing music 16:04 Becoming a conductor 18:16 The role of the conductor 22:48 The impact of a conductor's style 24:30 The process of bringing a piece of music to life 31:00 Composers whose work Ángel enjoys conducting 32:45 Finding humor in the music 34:27 Risks found in conducting 35:55 How Ángel's approach to music has matured 38:19 His scariest performances 41:42 PostClassical Ensemble Key Takeaways: "Every time music happens, it's different. It only exists the moment that it happens." "If you play an instrument, you are a musician. I express my musicianship through conducting." "Sound is not music. Sound under specific circumstances can become music." "To me, the process is the most fascinating part about conducting." "The conductor's role is to create tension through sound and bring it back to silence." "The audience plays a crucial role in the performance. Their energy is there." "Leave the opportunity for surprise. This is what makes the music exciting." Keep the adrenaline rush going at: Homepage: theadrenalinezone.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theadrenalinezone/ X:  https://twitter.com/Adrenalinezonep TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theadrenalinezone Ángel Gil-Ordóñez: https://www.gilordonez.com/

While it's true that everyone has rough days at work, few people have ones where they find themselves dropped into the middle of a fishing boat mutiny, tasked with getting the bleeding Captain to safety. Today's guest is one of those precious few - and, in fact, that day wasn't even close to his most difficult assignment! 20-year U.S. Coast Guard veteran and Aviation Survival Technician (AST)/elite Rescue Swimmer, Mike Romano, joins Sandra and Sandy today to share his incredible journey from collegiate athlete to Search and Rescue specialist where he routinely performs daring rescues in the most perilous conditions. Highlighting the resilience, responsibility, and rigorous training required for his role, Mike discusses the intense physical and mental demands of his training, the crucial teamwork and communication needed during missions, and the importance of adapting to unpredictable situations. Mike's firsthand accounts of high-stakes rescues, specialized equipment, and valuable advice for aspiring ASTs underscore the bravery and dedication of Coast Guard rescue swimmers, and will undoubtedly leave listeners both amazed and inspired by their unwavering commitment to saving lives. Episode Highlights: Mike's journey to rescue swimming Rescue swimmer training Mike's team and its structure Planning ahead and improvising Transporting rescuees in the helicopter CRM and ORM training Mike's medical training His law enforcement role The equipment and technology he uses Some of Mike's more perilous experiences The feeling after a successful mission Contact with rescuees after the mission Dealing with the unpredictability of the job Mike's career rescue stats His advice for those considering entering the field Key Takeaways: "Don't have a backup plan. Have this be your one and only goal. Work hard. Just know as physically exhausted as you think you are, you can do more." "Coast Guard rescue swimmers are some of the most elite yet unsung heroes in our military." "They physically drain you as much as possible to make you try to think and just have that mental toughness." "When we get on scene, a lot of times it's very different. You've kind of got to be very flexible and roll with all the punches." "You just kind of put yourself in the mindset of 'so others may live' and stick with that motto." "The pridefulness of it, the, like, 'Hey, I did a great thing.' It's an incredible feeling to pull somebody out of their most difficult situation." Keep the adrenaline rush going at: Homepage: theadrenalinezone.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theadrenalinezone/ X:  https://twitter.com/Adrenalinezonep TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theadrenalinezone Mike's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrromano/

“Braking at 180 something, I literally saw the left front wheel twist off with the entire suspension assembly; twist off, take a bounce and go flying a hundred yards. At that point, I've got three wheels, no front brakes, and again, pretty much riding a missile. I just was able to get the car turned at about 45 degrees, and that at least kept it from being head on.” Welcome to Bud Moeller's thrilling world of vintage Formula One racing as he joins Sandra and Sandy to share his journey from an adventurous upbringing abroad to a career in chemical engineering and consulting, and a passion for racing and flying. Today, Bud delves into the intricacies of vintage F1 racing, discussing the challenges of maintaining these classic cars and the importance of safety and precision in high-speed competitions. His experiences highlight the camaraderie among racers, the balancing act between fearlessness and risk management, and the significant impact of his engineering knowledge on his racing performance. To top it all off, Bud's parallel passion for flying adds yet another layer of excitement to his extraordinary life, rendering this episode a must-listen for racing enthusiasts and adrenaline seekers alike. Episode Highlights: The start of Bud's interest in racing and flying His adventurous upbringing Bud's attraction to muscle cars Going into chemical engineering Vintage F1 Racing His favorite cars How vintage races work Vintage race car maintenance  Front and rear brake calibration Bud's support team Women in the sport Race preparation Balancing fearlessness with risk management Crashes and how they affect Bud's approach to racing How his engineering knowledge impacts his racing ability Comparing IndyCar and F1 Bud's flying career Key Takeaways: "The camaraderie in our sport between us as participants is good because we want to have respect and good friendship with our competitors." "When you're going into a corner, wheel to wheel, and the machines are very expensive, you don't want to wreck your friend's or your own." "Growing up overseas and having exposure to different cultures opens your world up quite a bit." "Vintage racing involves driving cars that were interesting, exciting, and performed well back in the day." "In vintage F1 racing, we're cornering at four G's. Modern F1 cars will touch on five." "With vintage cars, we can't upgrade to more modern materials. We have to fabricate every suspension component." "The mental side of racing is absolutely huge. Visualization helps you prepare and improve your performance." "Understanding the dynamics and mechanics of the car makes you a better driver and helps in communicating with the crew." "In Formula One, every team must design their own unique car. In IndyCar, all cars are identical." "If you're going to let every little thing make you slow down, then you're not made for the sport." Keep the adrenaline rush going at: Homepage: theadrenalinezone.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theadrenalinezone/ X:  https://twitter.com/Adrenalinezonep TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theadrenalinezone Bud Moeller: https://www.facebook.com/OfficialBudMoellerFanPage/

Stepping up to the first tee, you are enveloped by an electric yet serene atmosphere. The soft grass under your feet and the crisp sound of your golf club making contact with the ball resonate deeply, as meticulously manicured fairways stretch out before you. Surrounded by vibrant azaleas and the deep green backdrop of one of golf's greatest stages, you sense the soft whispers and excited cheers of spectators; their anticipation fuelling your drive. In this moment, at this tournament, you're not just participating, you're living a dream - an amateur golfer pushing your limits amidst the majesty and tradition of The Masters at Augusta National.  Stewart Hagestad, the investment banker and outstanding amateur golfer who has been fortunate enough to live out this dream three times already in his life, joins Sandra and Sandy on the podcast this week. Together, they explore Stewart's early beginnings in golf, his experiences at Augusta National, and how he juggles a demanding career in investment banking with his passion for golf. The episode highlights the critical strategies for managing risk and maintaining mental focus which are essential in high-level amateur golf. Our talented guest also discusses the psychological benefits of golf, sharing tips on managing anxiety through mindfulness and the supportive role of relationships in pursuing excellence. As you will quickly learn, Stewart Hagestad's insights shared here today not only shed light on the complexities of competitive golf but also drive home the discipline and passion needed to excel both on and off the green. Episode Highlights: Stewart's golf journey Competing with yourself and others The difference between amateur and professional golfers Bobby Jones Staying proficient at golf while working full time Stewart's golfing style Golf course elements that affect difficulty levels What makes Augusta special for Stewart Preparing to play Augusta Risk calculations in golf The greens at Augusta Stewart's most interesting holes at Augusta How amateurs get invited to major tournaments Lessons learned from playing the Masters Dealing with adrenaline at the 2024 Masters Stewart's most intimidating 2024 Masters' moment Performing in front of a large crowd The shots he's most proud of from the 2024 Masters Advice for handling a ‘Masters-like' environment Key Takeaways: "You are given a really unique opportunity. You've earned the right to be there. Go and try to do something special." "The Masters is beyond the experience even of many pro golfers." "Golf is almost therapeutic. There's a gravitational force that brings you back." "Augusta National is the pinnacle. It's everything: the music, the green jacket ceremony, Jim Nance's silky voice." "If you drive it great at Augusta, that's really helpful. It's a second shot golf course." "At Augusta, the ability to switch speeds and adjust to the course is crucial." "Of anything in the world you could be doing, there's literally nothing else you'd rather be doing than that." "Go in there and try to do something great. The golf ball doesn't know who you are. Play to win." Keep the adrenaline rush going at: Homepage: theadrenalinezone.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theadrenalinezone/ X:  https://twitter.com/Adrenalinezonep TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theadrenalinezone Stewart on X: https://x.com/s_hagestad?lang=en

The thunderous growl of the engine as the car accelerates is quickly followed by the acrid scent of burning rubber with tires screeching against the pavement. The world spins into a blur as the car flips through the air, glass shattering and metal crunching in a symphony of destruction. With adrenaline pumping and every sense heightened to the extreme through each flip and turn, intricate precision and extensive training take over, as today's guest once again turns what seems like chaos into a meticulously orchestrated performance. This week, Sandy and Sandra are beyond excited to welcome Kathy Jarvis, a veteran stunt professional and “all around thrill seeker” with over 90 credits in films, TV shows, and commercials to the podcast to share details of her inspiring journey from a sports enthusiast in Breckenridge, CO, to a trailblazer in the stunt industry. Delving into the physical prowess and meticulous attention to detail required in this high-risk profession, Kathy goes on to highlight the evolving role of women in stunts, the increasing use of CGI, and the paramount importance of safety and mental preparedness. She also shares tales from her experiences outside the stunt world in ski racing, pro truck racing in the Baja 1000, and running a youth ski program. This woman is truly blazing trails wherever she goes - tune in today and find yourself equal parts amazed and inspired by her story! Episode Highlights: Kathy's road to the world of stunts Learning on the job Stunt performer skills and traits Some of the stunts Kathy has performed ‘Specifically tailored' stunt people The stunt coordinator role and what led her to it Offering suggestions to improve scenes The process of preparing for stunts Kathy's most complex stunts Managing safety Sequencing stunts Accident and injury precautions CGI's impact on stunt work Actors doing their own stunts Kathy's ski racing career Her vehicle racing career Kathy's work with inner engineering Key Takeaways: "Attention to detail is one of the skills or traits that make someone well suited to be a stunt performer." "To be a very good double, you really have to just watch your actor and become that person." “In stunts, it's all about making it happen on ‘action', with the equipment and props given to you.” "We want to ensure that we create some really beautiful action that just makes it seamless with the story." "The CGI has always enhanced stunts so that we could use the same three blocks and make it look like different cities." "Safety is utterly important in everything we do." "Inner engineering yourself is crucial so that you are never the problem in your life." "Learning to appreciate yourself and others can be more gratifying than any stunt." Keep the adrenaline rush going at: Homepage: theadrenalinezone.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theadrenalinezone/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/Adrenalinezonep TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theadrenalinezone Kathy's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathy-jarvis-66632bb/

The roar of the crowd fills your ears as the electric atmosphere of World Series Game 2 Yankee Stadium crackles all around you. Stepping up to the plate, the ever dangerous Pedro Martinez stares you down from the mound just before rocketing the ball towards you. The tension is palpable as you make the split-second decision to swing with all your might, the crack of the bat echoing through the stadium as the ball soars to right-center. Time seems to stand still as it clears the fence for a home run. Rounding the bases, heart pounding, you think to yourself, "Wow, I just hit a home run in the World Series!" Mark Teixeira, celebrated Georgia Tech alumnus, MLB legend, and the man who actually lived that dream scenario, joins Sandy and Sandra on today's thrilling episode of The Adrenaline Zone. Teixeira unpacks his journey from a backyard wiffle ball player in Maryland to a professional powerhouse, covering his early baseball inspirations, pivotal career decisions, and rise from high school prospect to first-round draft pick. They explore his affiliation with Georgia Tech, his refusal to sign with the Red Sox, and key moments in his professional path. Listeners gain an unparalleled view into major league sports as they discuss Mark's minor league experiences, cherished major league moments, Gold Glove Awards, and the challenges of playing different positions. Mark also shares insights on becoming a switch hitter, the impact of technology on the game, the pressures of playing for the Yankees, and offers advice for aspiring professional baseball players. Episode Highlights: Mark's start in baseball Playing at Georgia Tech and getting drafted His time in the minors Cherished moments from his time in the majors Winning 5 Gold Glove Awards Playing first base vs third base Starting a new position in the majors The toughest pitchers Mark faced Becoming a switch hitter The process of hitting in the majors How data, technology, and analytics are impacting the game The pressure of playing for the Yankees Dealing with injuries Visitors' locker rooms Georgia Tech and its impact on his life Mark's current work with Georgia Tech and his thoughts on NCAA's NIL policy His advice for aspiring professional baseball players Quotes: "I feel like everything that happens to you in life, you either make an excuse, you make it a crutch, or you make yourself better from it." "When you face guys in the majors, you're not just facing pitchers, you're facing experience and intelligence.” "Develop a love for the game, because if you don't, you're not going to practice enough or play enough to build your skills. If you have the talent and passion, everything else will follow." "If you want to learn how to hit a baseball, go outside with a little skinny yellow bat when you're three or four years old and have your dad or your friends throw you wiffle balls in the wind." "I learned the business of baseball at 18 years old, and I learned to not take it personally.” "From a team perspective, bar none, winning the World Series with the 2009 Yankees is my most cherished memory.” Keep the adrenaline rush going at: Homepage: theadrenalinezone.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theadrenalinezone/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/Adrenalinezonep TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theadrenalinezone Mark on X: https://x.com/teixeiramark25?lang=en

Strapped into the cockpit of a roaring hydroplane, racing along at 200 mph mere inches above the churning water, you feel every bump and current as you navigate tight turns and avoid competitors, all while managing an intricate ballet of high-velocity precision and raw power. This is hydroplane racing at its most elite level, a sensory overload where strategy, skill, and bravery meet the unrelenting challenge of the water's surface - and a place where today's guest feels right at home. Welcome to the 6th season of The Adrenaline Zone where Sandra and Sandy kick things off with Brent Hall, a remarkable hydroplane racer and cancer survivor set to make history as the first African American in the H1 Unlimited ranks. Brent shares his journey from childhood fascination to navigating high-speed hazards, offering insights into the intricate mechanics of hydroplane racing, safety advancements, and the strategic teamwork required. He also recounts some harrowing racing experiences he has survived which highlight the importance of thorough preparation and adherence to safety measures. Addressing some equally scary moments away from the water, Brent opens up about his battle with cancer and how this challenge continues to fuel his drive to break barriers and pursue his dreams. Join Sandra and Sandy as they return here today to get your adrenaline pumping once more with Brent's inspiring conversation about overcoming challenges, building community, and finding "the zone" on and off the water. Episode Highlights: Brent's early years Getting started in racing Being a “new old rookie” Training for racing Brent's favorite aspects of racing H1 boats The evolution of H1 boat technology and design H1 boat maintenance and race prep H1 Unlimited's guidelines Brent's crew The physical demands of racing The racing ‘zone' The hazards of racing Brent's battle with cancer His brother's cancer battle and Obliteride Harold Mills and being a role model Brent's son Women H1 drivers What's next for Brent Quotes: "I haven't been upside down, but I have done a barrel roll.” "I looked down, the whole left side of the boat was gone... and that's at about 100 miles an hour." "If the boat's bouncing back and forth…you're scrubbing off speed." “If we were upside down for even upwards of an hour, we would be able to breathe underwater.” “You don't just go out and say, “I'm going to go, you know, win a boat race now.” Matter of fact, if you think that way, you're kind of disrespecting how much time it takes to get to that kind of success.” “Your heart's beating so fast, and those races don't last very long, so any tip or advantage that you can get in communicating with your team is critical.” “When I found out that I had cancer, that was numbing…we had done all the scans and found out that I had stage four kidney cancer.” “Harold Mills…he took it 90% of the way. I'm going to take it the extra ten, and we're going to celebrate it together. I think the world of him.” Keep the adrenaline rush going at: Homepage: theadrenalinezone.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theadrenalinezone/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/Adrenalinezonep TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theadrenalinezone Brent Hall Racing: https://www.brenthallracing.com/ Obliteride: https://www.obliteride.org/

“Coffee time” is over, so you polish off the rest of your beer, grab your bags of bolts, begin your climb up the column and step out to “walk the iron” 20 stories above the ground - all without a hard hat, a harness, or any means of being “tied off”. The world of high-rise ironwork has evolved considerably over the years, and today's guest is here to provide his eyewitness account of it all. In today's exhilarating episode of The Adrenaline Zone, listeners are immersed in the captivating world of high-rise ironwork through the eyes of seasoned veteran, John Steinmetz. Boasting an impressive 40-year career in this daring profession, John shares details of his journey into ironworking, which is rooted in a strong family connection, and which unfolds as a thrilling tale of courage and resilience. The episode delves into a number of fascinating themes, from the challenges and risks of working at dizzying heights to the evolution of safety measures and training, the intricacies of assembling skyscrapers, and the camaraderie shared among ironworkers that resembles a second family. He also shares humorous anecdotes from his long and storied career, highlighting the importance of adaptability and problem-solving in this physically demanding field. As Season 5 of The Adrenaline Zone draws to a close here today, join Sandy, Sandra, and John to discover the awe-inspiring world of ironworking and the relentless dedication it entails. Don't miss this heart-pounding discussion that will definitely take you to new heights! Episode Highlights: John's road to the construction industry How tall structures are built Getting used to working high up The risks involved and how they are mitigated The training involved Some of John's close calls over the years Working in a confined space The metal that John has in him Dealing with a variety of weather conditions The family-like nature of working with others in construction The evolution of safety procedures over the years Ensuring quality and timely work Dealing with designers and engineers Some of John's funnier stories from his career The impact of technology on his work John's advice for those considering a career like his The highest John has ever walked on a beam His favorite building that he worked on Quotes: "In our business, gravity is your worst enemy." "I'll probably remember my first and my last." "You have to be geared for it. It's not a lazy man's job." "When it looks good on paper, it doesn't always work in real life." "People say that artificial intelligence is going to take away a lot of jobs, but they're white-collar jobs, not your job." "Just close your eyes and wait till the ride stops." "Each general contractor has an outside inspection agency, a third party who comes in behind us and checks to make sure…everything is done in accordance to the specs." "You never want the crane to stop." “I would still do it all over again if I was given the opportunity. I made a good living at it, I've always stayed busy, and the union treated me very well.” Keep the adrenaline rush going at: Homepage: theadrenalinezone.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theadrenalinezone/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/Adrenalinezonep TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theadrenalinezone

Your car comes to a halt at a border checkpoint, guard dogs barking, the guards themselves talking over each other, and now one of them is about to open the car's trunk, searching for stowaways or anything even remotely suspicious. Will he discover your husband and sleeping daughter carefully hidden behind the seats? Will your painstaking plan to defect from Cold War-era Soviet Union end in unspeakable disaster? Olga Sheymov hails from St. Petersburg, Russia, where, after pursuing an engineering degree, she joined the Central Institute for Information. Post-graduation, she found herself amidst a tense KGB situation during her involvement with a Canadian delegation at the Student Olympic Games in Russia. However, fate intervened as she crossed paths with her future husband, Victor Sheymov, a charismatic young man who played a pivotal role in their eventual escape from the Soviet Union. Since settling in the US, Olga has graduated from the Georgia Institute of Technology-College of Architecture with a Bachelor of Science, Industrial and Product Design, and is currently a versatile artist, engineer, and television producer. Today, she joins Sandy and Sandra to recount the thrilling Cold War saga of her daring escape from the Soviet Union with her husband and daughter. She delves into life behind the Iron Curtain, the relentless pursuit of the KGB, and the meticulously planned escape involving the CIA. From Olga's childhood memories in the Soviet Union to their heart-pounding escape and the challenges of adapting to American life, this story of courage and audacity provides a shining example of the resilience of the human spirit in the face of adversity. Episode Highlights: Growing up in the Soviet Union under the communist regime The KGB's interest in Olga working with them Olga's husband Victor What prompted them to leave the Soviet Union The challenge in contacting American officials Keeping their desire to defect secret Creating their escape plan and ensuring its confidentiality The CIA's involvement in their plan The level of stress involved in planning and executing the plan Olga's retelling of the actual escape Getting to the United States Victor's trip to China Going into hiding in the US Olga's biggest surprise about life in the US How she ended up at Georgia Tech Quotes: "The fact that we were able to get through was a miracle." "We had to look at everything with the mindset of an investigator, and that's what he did." "We rarely make mistakes in analysis. We usually make them in assumptions.” "If you start allowing yourself doubts, you cannot succeed." "We were in a crazy place because we didn't know if someone was watching us. We were constantly trying to see if...maybe this was all a set-up." "It felt surreal after 18 hours of nonstop adrenaline. I was still in a special mode and couldn't fully process what had happened." "Victor did an amazing job navigating us through all the obstacles in Russia. But I also believe it was help from above." Keep the adrenaline rush going at: Homepage: theadrenalinezone.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theadrenalinezone/ Twitter:  https://twitter.com/Adrenalinezonep TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theadrenalinezone Olga's LinkedIn Page:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/olga-sheymov-5407203/

As the inevitable adrenaline begins to course through your body, you draw upon all your training and skill to channel it, allowing you to steady your hands and make split-second decisions. Throughout it all, you remain acutely aware that distraught parents have placed all of their hope and faith in you and your team to save the life of their precious child who lays on the operating table before you. Welcome to the rollercoaster world of heart-pounding risks and heartwarming victories that define the life of a pediatric surgeon. Dr. Mary Brandt is not only a renowned pediatric surgeon but also a dedicated educator and recipient of numerous awards and honors for service, education, and humanism in medicine. She completed medical school and general surgery residency at Baylor, followed by a fellowship in pediatric surgery at the University of Montreal Sainte-Justine Hospital. Dr. Brandt returned to join the faculty at Baylor College of Medicine where she has a distinguished record of accomplishment, including service as Senior Associate Dean of Student Affairs, Senior Associate Dean of Medical Education, and Program Director for General Surgery. Dr. Brandt has also served as Professor of Surgery with Tulane University School of Medicine, and has an outstanding record of service to the American Academy of Pediatrics, American College of Surgeons, American Board of Surgery, American Pediatric Surgery Association, and the American Association of Medical Colleges. Today, Dr. Brandt discusses pediatric surgery, risk management, and medical training with Sandra and Sandy. Together, they explore emotional involvement in patient care, surgical preparation, and adrenaline challenges, and go on to draw parallels between astronauts and fighter pilots that reveal insights into adrenaline management and competency-driven training. Healthcare shifts, women in surgery, and Dr. Brandt's advice for aspiring medical professionals are included as well in today's thought provoking and thoroughly entertaining conversation. Episode Highlights: Dr. Brandt's decision to specialize in pediatrics Pediatric surgery training over the years Managing pediatric surgical risks in real-time Balancing objectivity and emotional involvement with patients Preparing for unfamiliar surgeries The hardest part of performing surgery Explaining the surgical risks to the child's parents Comparing risk management as a surgeon vs. an astronaut Managing adrenaline in the operating room Technology's impact on operating room risk management The risks created through traditional surgical training Alternative training approaches The evolution of women's involvement in surgery over the course of Mary's career Her advice for those thinking of going into medicine Quotes: "When you're learning how to make a skin incision, that adrenaline is there." "We're kind of the last general surgeons." "You have to lower your shoulders and take three deep breaths and watch what happens." "It's still an incredible profession." "There is not another human being or any policy that can take away my ability to sit in a room with another human being and talk about what I need to do to help heal them." Keep the adrenaline rush going at: Homepage: theadrenalinezone.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theadrenalinezone/ Twitter:  https://twitter.com/Adrenalinezonep TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theadrenalinezone

Imagine yourself soaring through the air - sometimes just a couple hundred feet above the ground - at hundreds of miles an hour, performing such maneuvers as spins, loops, rolls, as well as the somewhat ominously titled ‘Hammerhead', all while being subjected to up to 10 g's of force and knowing full well that one misstep could very possibly lead to hitting the ground! Welcome to just another day at the office for today's exceptional guest. Born and raised in California, Vicky Benzing is an accomplished pilot, skydiver, aerobatic performer and air racer. With over 9500 hours of flight time and over 1300 parachute jumps, Vicky's flying career has spanned nearly 40 years, and she currently holds an airline transport rating as well as a commercial rating in helicopters, seaplanes, and gliders. Fascinated by flight since childhood, Vicky was eventually fortunate enough to receive training from the legendary pilot, Amelia Reid. After earning her PhD. in Chemistry from UC Berkeley, and working in the Silicon Valley high tech industry, Vicky returned to her lifelong passion full time where she now holds a surface level aerobatic waiver, and has flown in hundreds of air shows across the country. She was voted “Rookie of the Year” in her first year of air racing, and currently holds the crown of the “Fastest Woman Ever” in the history of the Reno Air Races. In addition to all of these spectacular achievements, Vicky has also worked on a number of film, television, and media projects. Today, Sandy and Sandra sit down with Vicky to explore her inspiring journey from her early fascination with aviation to her remarkable career including her many, many achievements along the way as well as her unique perspective as a truly extraordinary woman in aviation. Episode Highlights: What sparked Vicky's passion for aviation and aerobatics Her aerobatics training Amelia Reid's impact upon Vicky and her career Her flight from New Jersey to California in her own plane The California Aeronautical University Vicky's PhD in Chemistry and work in the tech industry What kept Vicky from becoming an astronaut Vicky's Extra 300 planes Surface level aerobatic waivers Her favorite and most difficult maneuvers Air racing Vicky's P-51 Mustang Becoming a movie and TV star with her planes Vicky's interest in parachute jumping Her experience over the years as a woman pilot Vicky's advice for young girls who want to follow in her footsteps Her thoughts on the future of aerobatic flight Quotes: "You can have it all. Absolutely. You don't have to make those choices… you can have it all." "My uncle took me flying when I was a little kid, and I remember it distinctly." "The moment I stepped into the airplane and took the controls, I knew that was something I would do for the rest of my life." "But at an air show, they pay you to come, they pay for your hotel and car. The crowd tells you how much they love you." "You need a lot of g-forces to make the maneuvers look crisp." "It's an amazing time to be a pilot, especially for young people entering the industry." Keep the adrenaline rush going at: Homepage: theadrenalinezone.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theadrenalinezone/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/Adrenalinezonep TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theadrenalinezone Vicky's Homepage: https://www.vickybenzing.com/

In today's very special rereleased episode, Sandy and Sandra are joined by the one and only Santa Claus to discuss his annual toy delivery and the risks associated with it. Santa explains the logistics of North Pole operations and the challenges they have faced due to labor shortages and supply chain issues. While so many details of Santa's operation are understandably considered classified, he is able to shed some light on the incredible work he, Mrs.Claus, and the elves perform each year, while also stressing the importance of maintaining PPI to protect children's personal data. The Finer Details of this Episode: The scale of North Pole operations Challenges that Santa faces in his work The importance of maintaining personal professional privacy information How he ensures that toys are delivered on time The different risks associated with flying a sleigh around the world Some of the exciting experiences Santa has had while delivering toys The classified nature of much of Santa's operation Quotes: "We have to come up with about 2 billion toys a year, maybe a little bit fewer because of the little naughty ones, but that's not such a big number." "I mean, ever since the ‘great elf resignation', it's been tougher than blazes to get elves."  "If we were down there, we'd be up to our butts in elves, but we can't do that because the FAA won't let us fly over the 48 states. You know, they won't give us the permission. And then there's the whole labor thing.” “We are a risk manager's nightmare here. I'll tell you; we have a risk oversight committee, and we've got representatives from all the various health departments, and, you know, we've got air traffic control risks, we have risks of all those little reindeer hooves damaging roof tiles-- oh, the insurance company is all over us for that - we're working through that. We've got technology risks, you know, the sleigh is a very sophisticated piece of equipment.” Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok

For anyone who would love to work not only with 165 degree material, but explosives as well, in a mini-city located some 7000 ft below the surface of the Earth, Sandy and Sandra have unearthed the perfect job for you! As President and General Manager of Resolution Copper for Rio Tinto, Vicky Peacey is responsible for all aspects of planning, development, and operations related to the Arizona-based project. She has deep ties to the mining industry, coming from a multi-generational mining family, and has more than 20 years of industry experience working across various leadership roles at reclamation sites, operations and projects in the United States. She holds a Bachelor of Science (BS) in Applied Geoscience and a Master of Science (MSc) in Civil and Environmental Engineering from the University of Western Ontario, and has also attended the London School of Business and Finance's (LSBF) Emerging Leaders Program. In 2019, Vicky was inducted into the American Mining Hall of Fame and currently sits on the American Exploration & Mining Association Board. Prior to her present role, Vicky has held a number of leadership roles at Resolution Copper and Rio Tinto, which she joined in 2002. they explore the fascinating world of underground mining.  Join our hosts today to learn about Vicky's journey into the mining industry, the valuable lessons she's acquired, and gain insights into the technology, processes, and human factors that make mining possible at depths thousands of feet below the Earth's surface. 0:00 Start 0:25 Introduction 1:24 How Vicky got involved in the mining industry 2:42 Lessons she has learned over her career 3:48 Vicky's  overview of the mining industry 5:26 Minerals that are and aren't mined in the USA 6:49 The long process involved in preparing to mine an area 9:34 The construction phase of mining 10:54 The process and technology involved in mining the ore and getting it to the surface 12:59 The role of the human being in the process 15:33 Keeping track of people and equipment  16:21 The psychological aspects of working that deep underground 18:25 Responding to emergencies underground 19:38 The deepest mines in the world 20:29 “Centers of Excellence” 21:16 Explosives use in mining 22:29 Following laws in different countries 24:46 Processing the ore once it's reached the surface 27:31 Dealing with leftover material after the processing 28:39 The amount of time involved in the entire mining process 29:25 The parallels between working in mines and working in space 30:20 Managing criticism about mining 32:50 Locating minerals to be mined Quotes: "There's just such a diversity of interesting issues and things to tackle inside of a mine." "You have to follow the law in the jurisdiction that you're operating in. That is, when it's there." "The deposit is where it is, right? So nature puts it where it is." "We really need to invest again back into K through 12 education, partnering with universities, and really putting ourselves out there to communicate really about what the industry is or isn't." "We need to make sure that we are listening to communities, that they're helping shape the project.”” Keep the adrenaline rush going at: Homepage: theadrenalinezone.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theadrenalinezone/ Twitter:  https://twitter.com/Adrenalinezonep TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theadrenalinezone Resolution Copper: https://resolutioncopper.com/ Vicky's LinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vicky-peacey

How does a farm girl from Fenton, Michigan, go from being an injured runner in college suffering from anemia and a lack of formal cycling coaching, to becoming the first American winner of the Tour de France? Learn all about it by joining Sandy and Sandra as they embark on a thrilling journey into the world of competitive cycling alongside Marianne Martin, a true pioneer who made history as the first American to don the prestigious yellow jersey in the Tour de France back in 1984. In honor of this trailblazing achievement, Marianne was inducted into the 2012 Boulder (Colorado) Sports Hall of Fame, and was a 2020 inductee to the US Bicycling Hall of Fame. In today's episode, Marianne shares her remarkable transition from being a runner to a celebrated cyclist, and details some of the challenges she faced along the way. The ingenious strategies that propelled her to success as well as the evolving dynamics of teamwork are put under the microscope as well, offering invaluable insights into the nuances of the sport. The discussion doesn't stop at cycling; it takes a deeper plunge into the fascinating realm of team dynamics, risk management, and the sheer thrill that accompanies each pedal stroke. Marianne's journey from cycling champion to endurance horse racer also serves as a powerful testament to the sheer power of perseverance and visualization. As women's cycling experiences a resurgence, her experiences offer inspiration for athletes from diverse backgrounds, encouraging them to push their boundaries and embrace the thrill of endurance sports. Marianne's candid revelations, as shared here today, provide a heart-pounding glimpse into the experiences behind the handlebars, making this episode a must-listen for elite cycling enthusiasts and newcomers alike. 0:00 Start 0:23 Introduction 1:50 Marianne's start in competitive cycling 3:05 The women's competitive cycling circuit when Marianne started 4:06 The different degrees to the sport 5:43 The women's cycling community 6:38 Making the USA Tour de France team 8:08 Marianne's experience at the 1984 Tour de France 10:56 How she celebrated her victory 13:40 How a cycling team works together 16:30 Managing the risks involved 18:24 Physical training for racing 23:12 Mental preparation 26:59 The changes in competitive cycling over the years 27:48 The return of the women's Tour de France 29:43 Marianne's thoughts on the current Tour de France 31:05 Her advice for those interested in cycling 32:22 Marianne's involvement in endurance horse racing Quotes: “I love nothing more than adrenaline.” "Training is breaking down your body, and then resting is when you build it up." "I raced my bike, and it would have been great to have money, but I wouldn't have done anything different." "Every ride has to mean something; every time you're on your bike, it's got to be a specific reason." "The hardest thing about training is not training." "Pain meant my body was working and it was doing the right thing." "Your body is way more capable than we give it credit for." "I saw myself as a champion." Keep the adrenaline rush going at: Homepage: theadrenalinezone.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theadrenalinezone/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/Adrenalinezonep TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theadrenalinezone Marianne Martin's USBHOF Page: https://usbhof.org/inductee/marianne-martin/

What kind of person chooses to go climbing in places where they are in constant danger of being crushed by moving ice chunks the size of small buildings, all the while being surrounded by huge open crevasses into which they could very well fall hundreds of feet to their death? Well, allow us to introduce you to the indomitable mountaineer, Alison Levine, Sandy and Sandra's remarkable guest in today's exhilarating episode of The Adrenaline Zone. Alison sits down with our hosts to share her remarkable achievements, including completing the Adventure Grand Slam and conquering the highest peaks on every continent while skiing to both the North and South Poles. As you will hear, what sets her apart is her unwavering spirit, which carried her through three heart surgeries and a unique medical condition that makes her susceptible to frostbite in extreme cold. Throughout this gripping episode, you'll delve into the mindset of a true adventurer, discovering the importance of embracing discomfort as a stepping stone to greatness and learning how to prepare both mentally and physically for life's most extreme challenges. Whether she's recounting her experiences climbing Mount Everest, discussing her proudest moment of empowering local women while breaking barriers in a male-dominated field, or reflecting on the ups and downs of progress, Alison's insights are a beacon of inspiration.  Alison Levine is a history-making polar explorer and mountaineer. Among her many, many accomplishments, she served as team captain of the first American Women's Everest Expedition, climbed the highest peak on each continent and skied to both the North and South Poles—a feat known as the Adventure Grand Slam. Her success in extreme environments is noteworthy given she has had three heart surgeries and suffers from Raynaud's disease. Alison has also spent three years working for Goldman Sachs, has served as adjunct professor at the United States Military Academy at West Point, and was a contributing author to the book Leadership in Dangerous Situations: A Handbook for the Armed Forces, Emergency Services and First Responders. Quotes: "I love seeing how far out of my comfort zone I can get." "You can be scared and brave at the same time." "The goal of every single climb is to come back alive." "Complacency is really what puts you at risk." "Sometimes progress doesn't happen in the direction that you think it's going to happen, but it doesn't mean you're not making progress." "You just have to be absolutely relentless about putting one foot in front of the other." Keep the adrenaline rush going at: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok Alison Levine

In this riveting installment of The Adrenaline Zone podcast, Sandra and Sandy explore the modern landscape of ranching and farming alongside special guest Andrea Nicholas Perdue, the visionary CEO of Wagonhound Ranch in Wyoming. This episode masterfully examines the delicate balance between upholding traditional ranching values and embracing cutting-edge agricultural technology. You'll hear about Wagonhound Ranch's rich legacy in cattle ranching, dating back to the late 1800s, and Andrea's remarkable journey from the world of finance to helming a colossal 300,000-acre ranch.  Today's interview peels back the layers on the risks and rewards that define ranching, encompassing weather woes, disease dilemmas, and the intricate dance between tradition and innovation. The diversification of Wagonhound Ranch's business operations, including cattle ranching, hospitality, farming, and outfitting, takes center stage, exploring its motivations and sustainable implications. Moreover, the episode delves into the historical significance of Wagonhound Ranch's location along the Oregon Trail, preserving the legacy of the American West, and outlines strategies for managing risks in the unpredictable world of ranching. Today's conversation also illuminates the dynamic interplay between private and public interests, where effective communication is the linchpin. Tune in today for an unmissable adventure through the heartland of ranching, entrepreneurship, and the indomitable spirit of the American West in this extraordinary episode of The Adrenaline Zone. Quotes "Ranching has a long tradition in my family. My family has been cattle ranchers since we immigrated to the U.S. in the 1880s." "There's a push and a pull between private and public, and there always will be. That's something that I think you delicately manage." "You're operating a business in an environment that you don't control, and so you put things in place to help you control that." "There's been a big, renewed focus because it's finally been accepted that our food system is really one of the big levers that we have to affect global planet health." "Farming has gotten really sophisticated, and a lot of that happens automatically with the new technology of the farm equipment that you're using." "Regenerative agriculture is more of a rebranding of practices that have been implemented for a long time, like rotational grazing." "I think that there's this next generation of leaders that are women, and they are really accepting and excited about it." Keep the adrenaline rush going at: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok Wagonhound

How does a Grease loving, teenage aerobic instructor from humble beginnings in his beloved Cali, Colombia, end up living out the ‘American Dream' as the ‘Father' of an international fitness craze, and the Co-founder of a $500M exercise class company? Today, Sandra and Sandy sit down with a true fitness visionary and the creator of the Zumba phenomenon, Beto Pérez, who shares his whirlwind journey from the vibrant streets of Colombia to the sizzling energy of Miami, and how he fused fitness and Latin music, turning exercise into an exhilarating party. His truly remarkable story, as shared here today, highlights the transformative power of happiness, the courage to chase your dreams, and the creative spark that has fuelled this passionately determined innovator's journey each energetically choreographed step of the way. Raised in Cali, Colombia, by a single mother, where he worked 3 jobs by age 14 to support his family, Beto Pérez 's passion for dance eventually led him to Miami, where he invented ‘Zumba', a fitness craze that absolutely broke the mold of what gym-goers had ever experienced before. In collaboration with Alberto Perlman and Alberto Aghion, he established Zumba Fitness LLC as an organization that sells Zumba content and products. Today, 15 million people in more than 200,000 locations in 186 countries take Zumba classes every week, and Zumba Fitness LLC is worth an estimated $500, 000, 000. Over the years, Pérez has also won a number of awards including Canfitpro Lifetime Achievement Award (2016), IDEA Jack LaLane Fitness Leader Award (2013), Canfitpro New Specialty Program Presenter (2008) and even received the key to city in Cali, Colombia. Quotes: "People always think that exercise is sacrifice; it's hard, it's not easy. But I think we had the idea to create exercise with a fun way, like a party." "My passion for dance is for rock and roll from the '60s. After this movie, I was like John Travolta." "When you do something with happiness, something positive happens in your life." "I feel so proud and happy with my business partners." "If I stop, I'll be boring. I'll be old, depressed." "I have passion, the same passion I had when I was 15 years old. Yeah, I love to take the risks, the adventure, like adrenaline. I need to make projects all the time, to do something all the time, to create something." "One of the tools that we need is good music." "This is the country of opportunities... everything is possible." Keep the adrenaline rush going at: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok Zumba

Be sure to check out today's sponsor, Culligan Water: https://www.culligan.com/ What exactly possesses a person to pursue a career of sacrificing their body to intercept frozen vulcanized rubber missiles whistling along at up to 100+ MPH? Discover the answer to that question and so much more as Sandy and Sandra welcome internationally renowned ice hockey goaltending superstar, Martin Brodeur, as their very first guest of The Adrenaline Zone's 5th season. Widely considered to be one the greatest goalies of all time, Martin Brodeur comes by his love of ice hockey honestly. Son of Olympic Bronze Medalist with Canada's 1956 hockey team and famed hockey photographer, Denis Bodeur, Martin has achieved his own extraordinary level of success becoming, in just one of his many accomplishments, the all-time winningest goaltender in the NHL. During his extraordinary NHL career, almost entirely with the New Jersey Devils, Martin has set NHL marks for goals scored by a goalie, regular season wins, shutouts, and games played, and has won 30-or-more games in 12 consecutive seasons, recording eight 40-win seasons along the way. Among the many honors he has earned are a Calder Trophy, 4 Vezina Trophies, 5 Jennings Trophies, 3 Stanley Cup Championships, and 7 All-Star Team appearances. As if that's not enough, he has also represented Canada at the Winter Olympics multiple times, twice coming away with a gold medal. Having retired from playing, Martin currently serves as the Devils' Executive Vice President of Hockey Operations, and was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame in 2018 - his first year of eligibility. You just don't get much more legendary than that! In this premiere episode of this new season, Martin shares his exceptional journey, brimming with winning strategies and hard earned wisdom, with our hosts, as, together, they discuss a number of fascinating topics. Keep the adrenaline rush going at: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok Martin Brodeur's Hockey Hall of Fame Page

Retired astronaut Colonel Doug Hurley takes center stage alongside Sandy Winnefeld and former colleague Dr. Sandra Magnus, marking the monumental 40th episode of The Adrenaline Zone podcast. Together, they embark on an enthralling voyage, tracing Col. Hurley's awe-inspiring journey from upstate New York to the vast expanse of space. As a recipient of the esteemed Congressional Space Medal of Honor, Col. Hurley paints a vivid and personal portrait of his spaceflight experiences, unraveling the captivating challenges, triumphs, and rewards that shaped his remarkable career. With our hosts, he delves into the rigorous training program that hones the skills and fortitude required of an astronaut, from mastering orbital mechanics to honing public speaking and photography skills. Recounting the exhilarating moments of launch and landing, he shares his unique insights on flying the space shuttle, commanding the first crewed commercial orbital spacecraft for SpaceX, and the cultural differences that exist between NASA and SpaceX. He also emphasizes the profound impact visual documentation has on scientific research and the exploration of the cosmos, and shares his thoughts on the future of manned spaceflight. Filled with personal anecdotes and unique perspectives, today's 40th installment of The Adrenaline Zone podcast offers a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to explore the wonders of space exploration that will leave you with a profound appreciation for the wonders of the universe and the heroic individuals who help us all learn more about it. The Finer Details of this Episode: Col. Hurley's journey to becoming an astronaut The rigorous training program and diverse skill set required for astronauts The importance of capturing imagery during the fly around of the International Space Station Flying the space shuttle and maneuvering in space Personal anecdotes and insights from Col. Hurley's spaceflight experiences The differences between the Space Shuttle and Crewed SpaceX missions Challenges and lessons learned during the development of the Crewed SpaceX mission The adaptation process and experiences during a two-month stay on the International Space Station (ISS) The reentry and landing procedures of Dragon spacecraft Lunar exploration as a means to prepare for future human missions to Mars Quotes: "You can do anything else, but just don't hit the space station." "You're hand flying it. The shuttle had the capability built in for it to land automatically, but there was never a lot of confidence in the system." "It's kind of like going supersonic at 20,000 feet. Isn't that exciting?” "I think it would be fair to say that the culture of SpaceX in 2015, 2016 probably was not a lot different than NASA during the '60s as we were doing the Apollo program. You had a bunch of incredibly talented, smart, but very young, relatively inexperienced space people, but working on a common goal and almost with fanaticism, frankly." "If we think as humanity we want to go to Mars and put people on Mars… we've got to run it all like a dress rehearsal on the Moon because then we're only two days away, not six months away from getting something to the crew." Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok Col. Doug Hurley

Join Sandy and Sandra as they embark on an awe-inspiring exploration of the captivating world of rocket science with the esteemed guest, Garry Lyles, as he shares his personal journey, from a childhood fascination with rockets to becoming a revered figure in the space sector on the podcast today. Garry also reviews the challenges, triumphs, and trade-offs that encompass the design and construction of rockets, with a particular focus on the groundbreaking Space Shuttle main engines (SSMEs) and their evolution into the awe-inspiring Space Launch System (SLS). Through captivating storytelling and insightful anecdotes, this episode will take you on an exhilarating voyage through the intricacies of rocket design and the fascinating developments in the Artemis Program, igniting your imagination and leaving you inspired to reach for the stars. Together with our hosts, Garry dives into various themes surrounding rocket design, manufacturing, and the future of space exploration, and provides a window into his remarkable journey, discussing the challenges and successes encountered while working on the iconic Space Shuttle main engines. He reveals the transformative process that led to the development of NASA's cutting-edge Space Launch System (SLS) and insights into the visionary Artemis program. With an emphasis on the intricate trade-offs involved in rocket design, the importance of rigorous testing and failure analysis, and the critical considerations when crafting crewed and uncrewed vehicles, this episode unveils the awe-inspiring intricacies of the cosmos and offers a glimpse into the promising future of space exploration. Join us on this enthralling adventure that encapsulates the essence of human ingenuity, resilience, and the relentless pursuit of knowledge. The Finer Details of this Episode: Garry's journey in the space sector Insights into the design, development, and challenges of the successful SSMEs during the Space Shuttle era The role of mechanical engineering, fluid mechanics, and thermodynamics in rocket propulsion systems The size and capabilities of the Space Launch System (SLS) compared to previous systems Behind-the-scenes stories and lessons learned from the Artemis One launch The trade-offs and complexities in rocket design and the role of the chief engineer The importance of rigorous testing and failure analysis in rocket design Challenges, innovations, and future technologies in rocket manufacturing and propulsion Quotes: "When you grow up near Huntsville, you're kind of automatically attracted to rockets and NASA." "You can't plan these things the way they happen... don't worry about planning your life too much because you can't do that." "Those engines are what they are because of the requirements of the Space Shuttle... a thermodynamic cycle that we had never built before." "This nation does a lot of things that are very technically difficult... there's nobody else who can do this kind of stuff." "The big job of the chief engineer... is to manage all of those trades." "It is hard to beat a hydrogen combustion when you want to go take heavy things very fast." "I think the nearest term non-combustion kind of technology... will be nuclear propulsion." "The Artemis One launch was flawless.” Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok Garry Lyle on LinkedIn

Welcome to an exhilarating new episode of the podcast as Sandra and Sandy embark on a captivating journey behind the scenes of Mission Control with none other than Rick LaBrode, the distinguished Lead Flight Director of the groundbreaking Artemis One mission. Together, they unravel the multifaceted role of a flight director and the immense responsibilities that come with overseeing such momentous missions. Along the way, Rick unveils the intricate coordination of system consoles, the unwavering commitment to crew safety and vehicle integrity, the intricate world of pre-planning, and the creation of flight rules that facilitate real-time decision-making.  Rick also offers invaluable insights into the continuous learning experience for the flight control team during the groundbreaking Artemis One mission, and shares intimate details of the exhaustive planning and meticulous training that precede every mission. The necessity of risk assessment, where every conceivable failure is meticulously evaluated, and contingencies are strategically devised to mitigate potential perils, is explored as well. With the Artemis One mission as their compass, Sandra, Sandy, and Rick shed light on the realm of unexpected events and risk reduction strategies while highlighting the resilience and adaptability of the flight team. Sit back, buckle up, and brace yourself for today's riveting expedition behind the scenes of historic space missions with Rick LaBrode as your guide extraordinaire. The Finer Details of this Episode: The role of flight director and coordination between system consoles for mission success Responsibilities of ensuring crew and vehicle safety The importance of pre-planning, real-time decision-making, and flight rules Artemis One Risk reduction activities and testing The extensive planning and training process  Personal dedication and passion for human spaceflight Quotes: "The part you see on TV where we're in Mission Control, that's just one piece of it. And actually, the smaller piece, it's probably 10% of the job. 90% of the work is done before we even get on console." "We try to pre-plan and think about all the what-if scenarios that could go wrong, and we build flight rules that make real-time decision making easy... It's when we don't have a flight rule that covers that scenario where the flight director earns his paycheck." "I think almost every flight controller who works in mission control, they aspire to be the person who's large and in charge in the room. And I was no different. Right. I wanted to be the guy that people came to ask the questions and got permission to go and do stuff." "The buck really stops at the flight director console. We are ultimately responsible for the well-being of the crew, their safety, as well as the vehicle itself." "One of our primary mission objectives for Artemis One was to test the heat shield that was going to protect the crew module on reentry." "Because we worked it so long and my team was so good, they made my job really easy... I felt so comfortable. We were ready easily the year before to be able to fly this flight." "Space Ops is just the coolest thing you could ever imagine. You can't do it anywhere else." Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok Rick LaBrode on LinkedIn

In this episode of the Adrenaline Zone, Dr. Joe Dituri, a former commander in the US Navy, shares his experience as a deep-sea diver, special operations officer, and engineering duty officer. His passion for diving started at a young age when his father gave him a double hose regulator that allowed him to breathe underwater. He eventually found his way to the Navy, where he gained extensive experience in diving, engineering, and research. The episode covers a range of topics, including underwater suits, physics and mechanics of the underwater environment, and his current work in treating traumatic brain injury. The conversation is a must-listen for anyone interested in deep-sea diving and undersea research. During his 100-day stay at the Jules' Undersea facility, Dr. Dituri serves a threefold purpose: outreach to students to get them excited about STEM fields, discussing preservation, protection, and rejuvenation of the marine environment, and conducting biomedical research related to solving problems for astronauts and aquanauts. Living underwater presents its own unique challenges, including decompression and bone density loss, which Dr. Dituri is researching to help solve problems for astronauts in space. He also shares his goal of becoming an astronaut and his excitement about his upcoming zero gravity flight. Dr. Dituri's work and passion for deep-sea diving and undersea research are truly inspiring and a testament to the limitless potential of human exploration and scientific discovery. The Finer Details of this Episode: Joe's early passion for deep-sea diving and his journey to the Navy His experience in the special operations community and becoming a diving officer The challenges and tasks involved in being an engineering duty officer Joe's work at the Deep Submergence Unit and the risks of diving at 2000ft The importance of risk mitigation and management in deep-sea diving Launching two underwater suits at once and writing operational procedures The importance of having a person in the suit and extensive training for deep-sea missions Joe's biomedical research to solve problems for astronauts and aquanauts His personal experience with traumatic brain injury His efforts to improve the system and address veteran suicide Quotes: "Risk mitigation became an every other day word for me." "If you don't fix the body, the body does keep the score." "We lost a bunch of guys to suicide following the horrific events that they'd been through." "I want them to be like, hey, you can be a scientist and be cool, too." "I'm trying to solve problems on the International Space Station for muscle loss and bone density loss." "My long term goal is to solve problems for aquanauts and astronauts." "The thing that I think is really important is to have a community of people that you can talk to who have been through similar things. And you know, that's why groups like the Wounded Warrior Project are really important." "I think that sometimes we forget that we're all humans and we all have a similar capacity for dealing with stress and trauma." "It's important to remember that people are complex and that there's no one-size-fits-all solution to any problem." Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok Dr. Deep Sea Secrets in Depth

On this episode of The Adrenaline Zone, Sandy and Sandra delve into the world of artificial intelligence (AI) with guest Gilman Louie. As a former video game designer turned venture capitalist, Gilman brings valuable insights into the current state of AI, including the emergence of Generative AI and algorithm Chat GPT, which can generate text that seems indistinguishable from what a human could produce. Together, our trio touches on the potential risks and benefits associated with AI's continued development, from its ability to revolutionize industries to the possibility of machines falling out of control or being used against us. Gilman provides expert analysis on the ethical implications of creating machines that can mimic human behavior, emphasizing the importance of investing in the soft sciences, such as sociology and psychology, to better understand the social impacts of these technologies. He also highlights the need for a more thoughtful and coordinated approach to AI implementation, involving academia, governments, and tech companies working together to build safer and more trustworthy systems. With Gilman's experience as a venture capitalist and his involvement in In-Q-Tel, a venture capital firm associated with the Central Intelligence Agency, the episode provides valuable insights into the potential benefits and challenges of AI. Ultimately, his conversation with our hosts here today serves as a reminder of the importance of thoughtful implementation and regulation of emerging technologies to ensure a better future for all. The Finer Details of this Episode: Gilman Louie's professional history The evolution of gaming graphics In-Q-Tel and Gilman's involvement with it The emergence of Generative AI and algorithm Chat GPT The potential risks and benefits of AI's continued development Investing in soft sciences Establishing ethical frameworks for the use of AI The need for a more thoughtful and coordinated approach to AI implementation  The potential for AI to revolutionize industries A call to action for both tech companies and society in general  Quotes: "Generative AI's emergence has brought into sharper focus debates over what computers can do and should be allowed to do, and how this capability might be used against us or even fall out of control completely." "If you haven't seen it on Star Trek, it's probably not worth inventing." "AI safety, AI security, AI trust and confidence will lead a whole new industry to be built around these series of technologies." "Dumb systems actually do a lot more harm than smarter systems." "The soft sciences is really what represents what's going on between our two ears." "We need to kind of go very thoughtfully into this next decade, and we need to really think very hard about how we apply these technologies and how we put up the appropriate guardrails." "We need to draw on those bodies of literature as a thought experiment that's been going on for the last close to 70, 80 years." "AI will affect us in our lives in so many different profound ways, from how we work, how we live, to how we play, to how we interact." Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok Gilman's LinkedIn Page

High Sea Hazards with CAPT Cynthia Robson Captain Cynthia Robson finds herself in The Adrenaline Zone today to discuss with Sandy and Sandra the exciting world of operating merchant ships at sea and details from her career in the field. Along the way, she also touches upon such topics as the risks associated with piracy, the challenges of rough weather, and the unique difficulties that come with being a woman in a male-dominated industry. The complexity of operating different types of ships, the benefits of crew diversity, and the unique opportunity of booking a cabin on a merchant marine ship are examined as well during this fascinating episode. As the conversation unfolds, Captain Robson highlights her experiences that range from sailing on ocean races to leading a joint training cruise with cadets from the United States and the Soviet Union after the fall of the Berlin Wall. Captain Robson speaks candidly about the challenges of being the only female cadet and facing sexist remarks from male colleagues while also noting the increasing opportunities for women in the industry and her work at the US Merchant Academy. Captain Cynthia Robson's experiences and insights, as shared here today, offer a rare glimpse into the world of merchant mariners, a profession that often operates under the radar, and they provide a captivating listen for anyone interested in adventure, overcoming challenges, and thriving in The Adrenaline Zone. The Finer Details of this Episode: Captain Robson's journey to pursuing a career in the Merchant Marine The challenges faced by women in the industry Advancing through the ranks in the Merchant Marine Some of Captain Robson's experiences working on research vessels and survey ships The advantages of working for Military Sealift Command  Changes the Coast Guard has made to the licensing frequency and their impact  Piracy and Captain Robson's experiences with it Rough weather, rogue waves and the challenges they present  Breaking down barriers as a woman in a male-dominated industry Preparing for and mitigating risks at sea Tall ships and what is required to sail them  Benefits of crew diversity Increasing opportunities for women in the industry  Booking a cabin on a merchant marine ship  Crew resource management Quotes: "I was told that I could be an apprentice or be an applicant, but I could never be a book member because they were never going to allow women in the Merchant Marine.” "When you graduate from a state academy or also from the federal academy, you graduate with a degree, and you also graduate with a third mate license." "If you're working a one for one schedule, you have to accrue a year's sea time and you work for usually two years to get a year's sea time." "The advantage of Military Sealift Command is that you gather sea time and you raise your license a lot faster." "The reason the captain had been yelling is because there were some pirates up on the bridge and they had a machete and they were going after him with a machete." "We had our own Beaufort scale. And I just remember at force five, it said, 'Joggers must stay indoors.'” "So I was going to my ship... and one of them asked me, 'What ship are you going to?' And I said, 'the Jamestown.' He said, 'I'm so glad. We needed a good cook.'" "Risk mitigation is huge... the most important thing is to be prepared and to know your risks." -  "It takes a lot of expertise to sail tall ships.” "Almost anyone in the Navy would tell you that when we started bringing women on aircraft carriers, it changed the culture of the ship in a good way." "The more women on board ship, the better the crew, and the better the crews get."  "Booking a cabin on a merchant ship - I would totally recommend it." Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok CAPT Robson's LinkedIn Page

This week, Sandra and Sandy host Lt. Col. Ed Yeilding, a former SR-71 pilot who famously flew the plane on over 90 worldwide reconnaissance missions. Their discussion begins with a look at the development of the SR-71 and how it was a response to the need for better photographic reconnaissance during the Cold War. From there, Yeilding goes on to share his experience of growing up in Florence, Alabama, how he became an Air Force pilot, and the unique construction and design of the plane that allowed it to fly at such high speeds. He then provides further insight into the experience of flying the SR-71 Blackbird, including the fact that, despite rigorous simulator training, the airplane was prone to malfunctions. He also discusses his final flight in the SR-71, shares his experiences with JT Vida - the test RSO assigned to fly with him to the Smithsonian - and explains the purpose of the speed record flight. Today's fascinating episode provides an inside look into the SR-71 Blackbird including its enormous contribution to the country for over 25 years, and serves as a powerful testament to the skill and bravery required by Lt. Col. Ed Yeilding and his colleagues to pilot this incredible machine. The Finer Details of this Episode: The development of the SR-71 Yeilding's experience of growing up in Florence, Alabama His journey to become an Air Force pilot The unique construction and design of the SR-71 Flying the RF-4 and F-4 fighter planes  Yeilding's experience of losing six friends in accidents Flying the SR-71 The unclassified cool aspects of the unique construction and airframe of the SR-71 Extensive simulator training  Managing malfunctions  Setting an official coast-to-coast airplane speed record The purpose of the speed record flight Reaching the top speed of Mach 3.3 Yeilding's experiences with JT Vida His final flight in the SR-71 Quotes: "I really wanted to fly the Blackbird. I had my eyes on it since I was 15 years old when it was announced by President Johnson in 1964." "During that time, I lost six friends in accidents, practicing for the defense of our freedom." "It was not designed to be stealthy. It was designed to be faster than anything else in the air and higher than anything else in the air.” "By the time we had our first flight, we were nearly experts in the airplane just due to all that simulator training." "Our longest routine missions were five and a half hours." "We did have an ejection seat similar to most any air fighter, and we had a parachute." "It was a wonderful airplane to fly, but there was a lot more to it than just flying. It was a true team effort. Every person on the crew, and every person supporting the crew, had to be really, really good." "So we wanted to do our very best to represent all the Blackbird community in that speed record flight across the country to the Smithsonian." "And that would call the public's attention to what a great airplane it has been for our country for 25 years. So that was the purpose of the speed record.” Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok

David Duncan, CEO of Silver Oak Cellars, joins Sandra and Sandy on the podcast today to discuss the art, science, and risks of winemaking. Their conversation covers topics such as the difficulties associated with winemaking, the risks involved, and the sustainable practices and technological advancements that are shaping the industry. David shares his family's entrepreneurial background, recounts how he was drawn to the farming aspect of winemaking, and describes the process of making wine, from planting vines to releasing a new vintage.  The episode also explores the attraction of risk-taking and adrenaline, as David, a successful winemaker, stage musician, and philanthropist, shares his thoughts on how he manages risk-taking in both his personal and professional life. He and our hosts then touch on the duality of risk-takers - their ability to focus on risk-taking while also being able to detach themselves from it -  as well as the importance of building resilience and adapting to change. In addition to providing a fascinating exploration into the world of winemaking, today's episode offers a unique perspective on risk-taking, making it a must-listen for anyone interested in thriving, as David does, at the intersection of tradition and innovation. The Finer Details of this Episode: The challenges of owning and operating a winery The risks associated with winemaking Silver Oak Winery The process of making wine David's background and how he got involved in the family business Silver Oak's commitment to sustainability David's love for music and being in the band Forms of risk-taking The duality of people who intensely focus on risk-taking  David's album "Bacon, Butter & Salt" The philanthropic work of risk-takers Building resilience Wine as a bridge between tradition and innovation The elevating impact of  the addition of fine wine to any meal Quotes: "Making high quality wine is a difficult business that combines both art and science." "The farming part of the wine business is what attracted me." "I'm more of a business person, and I've gotten a lot of experience now." "We think today that we use about 30% of the water that we did ten or 15 years ago."  "We welcome rain all the time." "You have a little bit of an attraction to adrenaline and risk-taking in general as well." "Well, risk-taking comes in many forms, and getting up in front of a huge crowd of people as a musician is certainly one of them." "They've got this sort of juxtaposition of intense focus on the risk, but at the same time detaching from it." "And I think people who deal with risk on a basis all the time, their ability to roll with the punches and not let it take you down gets refined, and they get to be experts at that, whether you're a bull rider or a mountain skier or mountain climber." "So you're not only a successful winemaker and a musician... But one of the great things, David, I like about you is that you believe in philanthropy and you do a lot of philanthropic work..." "Silver Oak in particular has become a family tradition... that's been really gratifying to see." "Good wine will go good on cornflakes, too, right?" Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok Silver Oak Homepage

In this episode of The Adrenaline Zone, Sandra and Sandy sit down with former Acting/Deputy Director of the CIA and host of the Intelligence Matters podcast, Michael Morell - a man with a wealth of experience on the analytical side of the CIA, advising presidents and other senior leaders during crises and critical national security decisions. Together, our hosts seek to uncover the risks involved in the intelligence business as Michael  shares his story of how he entered the field and his experiences working in this high-stakes environment. His experiences as a valued advisor, a review of the CIA's capabilities, and the role of the intelligence community in protecting national security are all discussed here today. Morell also highlights the importance of ethical decision-making in the intelligence business, as well as the risks and challenges facing the community today. Our esteemed guest goes on to provide a first-hand account of what it's like to be a Presidential Daily Briefing contributor and the immense responsibility that comes with the job. He recounts an anecdote where what he presented to the President resulted in a change in US policy, and he also shares his experience of being with President Bush on the day of the 9/11 attacks, highlighting the surreal and intense nature of the day. As both a witness to and participant in unfolding moments of historical importance, Michael Morell offers listeners here today a rare glimpse into the life of an intelligence analyst. His powerful insights and thought-provoking anecdotes as shared with Sandy and Sandra in this truly spellbinding episode, provide a deeper understanding not only of the intelligence community, but also its crucial role in safeguarding national security. The Finer Details of this Episode: Michael's journey into the intelligence business The more subtle elements of risk in the intelligence community on the analytical side His experiences directly advising presidents and other senior leaders  Ethical decision-making in the intelligence business Challenges facing the intelligence community today The CIA's capabilities  Insights into the people and culture of the CIA  Impacting US policy Being a PDB briefer Michael's experience with President Bush on the day of the 9/11 attacks The significance and levels of intelligence relationships The importance and use of open-source information The changing analytical craft The need for transparency in the use of algorithms Quotes: "The intelligence community's role is to provide objective, accurate, timely information to policymakers to help them make decisions to protect our national security." "The most important thing we can do is to tell the truth to the policymakers and be objective about it." "One of the things we learn as analysts is to be comfortable with ambiguity." "It's a tough business, and the risks are significant, but I felt like I was part of a family that really cared about me." "We want to do everything we can to protect our national security, but we also want to protect the privacy and the civil liberties of Americans." "The world is an incredibly complicated place. One nation alone can't solve the problems, one military alone can't solve the problems, and one intelligence service alone can't solve the problems. So it's a team sport." "There needs to be an openness to using that data, gathering that data, buying that data, and then there needs to be a greater openness to the use of tools that can sit on top of all of your data and help you identify information that you might not have found on your own." "Intelligence relationships tend to be bilateral because they're based on trust." Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok Michael on Twitter Intelligence Matters

Sandra and Sandy are back and today they welcome professional adventurer, Jeb Corliss, to the podcast for a truly fascinating conversation. Jeb has dedicated his life to BASE jumping, and wingsuit proximity flying, and our hosts begin by reviewing some of his impressive accomplishments in these areas. They also chat with Jeb about his childhood, how he became interested in skydiving and base jumping, and the mindset required for these activities. Jeb reveals that he lost his dreams during his teenage years, which led him to become depressed and suicidal, and details how he discovered his passion for base jumping which has been pursuing ever since.  Together with our hosts, Jeb discusses how the drive to push boundaries and evolve our capabilities as human beings can be seen in these sports, with technology enabling us to do this at a much faster rate. He goes on to recount his adrenaline filled experiences as a base jumper and wingsuit pilot, and shares his passion for flying over landmarks and iconic objects, describing some of his most impressive feats, such as flying down both of the great pyramids in Egypt. He also explains the technical difficulties and challenges of these jumps and his love for photography and videography. Noting that his passion for these extreme sports has given him a unique perspective on life and a willingness to sacrifice everything for them, today's special guest provides interesting insights not only into the logistics and challenges of these sports but also the existential revelations they can generate. NOTE: this conversation contains in-depth discussion on suicidal ideation. The Finer Details of this Episode: Jeb and some of his many accomplishments in the field His childhood and how he became interested in skydiving and base jumping The mindset required for skydiving and base jumping. The desire to push boundaries and evolve human capabilities The development of wingsuits Skydiving, training with a wingsuit, and base jumping Technology and its role in human evolution The evolution of rules and training programs for wingsuit flying and base jumping The technical difficulty of flying down the Great Pyramids in Egypt The challenges he faces during his jumps, and how he overcomes them Two thought processes that occur when tumbling towards solid granite at 120 mph Learning what is important in life Quotes: "If you can find happiness in your life doing anything else, do anything else." "Adults are constantly—I think it's their job, obviously, to teach children about the world and what you can and cannot do. And I don't think they purposely step on dreams." "I'm never nervous, because the moment you're nervous, you're done." "I can feel my heart beating in my ears, and everything's like hyper-real, and it's just a very, very unique moment." "My goal is to try to push the boundaries of what human beings are capable of doing. Right? It's like an evolutionary step." "We just were figuring it out." "It's really given me a life in a way that I can't even express. And it's made me a very happy person. And it's very special to me because I've gotten to see things from such a special way, and it's given me a life. I mean, it's given me my life." "If for some reason, in the next whatever jumps, it gets taken from me, then it was worth it. It's all worth it, because I'm willing to sacrifice everything because it's given me everything." "Everything just goes tunnel vision to my target." "All of a sudden, it kind of boiled life down to what was important, which was time. That's all that mattered. Nothing else meant anything." "And it was a fascinating thought process because I knew I couldn't make it. Like, there's no way you could hit ground at that speed and survive." Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok Jeb's Homepage Memoirs from the Edge

Risky Business with Serial Entrepreneur Tom Noonan In today's episode of The Adrenaline Zone, Sandra and Sandy Winnefeld welcome serial entrepreneur Tom Noonan to the podcast. Tom shares his experiences starting businesses from scratch and offers insights and lessons learned for those interested in taking risks to achieve success. He discusses the importance of having a good idea, the value of surrounding oneself with a strong team, and the need to adapt and pivot in the face of challenges. Tom also touches on the importance of giving back and helping others learn from his experiences. During their conversation, Tom talks about the challenges he has faced and how he overcame them, including the dotcom bubble burst and the 9/11 attacks. He emphasizes the importance of maintaining culture in a business as it grows, and the need to evolve the culture while still holding onto core values. Our guest then shares his experiences with the culture at Internet Security Solutions as it experienced significant growth, and the contrast between the culture at ISS and the culture at IBM. He also shares his thoughts on the importance of having a strong vision, and the role of leadership in building and maintaining culture.Tom concludes by emphasizing the importance of pursuing risk and opportunities, the value of keeping the "child inside" alive, and the power of having a strong vision The Finer Details of this Episode: Tom's entrepreneurial background Skills and traits necessary for successful entrepreneurship The story of Internet Security Solutions The role of risk-taking in successful entrepreneurship Withstanding uncertainty and fear Tom's experience as an investor and mentor to entrepreneurs The importance of having practical experience in managing and operating a business Maintaining and evolving company culture as a business grows The difference in culture between IBM and ISS Keeping the ‘child inside' alive Having a strong vision Quotes: "I guess it all started at a really young age...I got my first paper route when I was about seven years old and delivered the paper before school." "I really think those early experiences put me on the track to say, 'Hey, this is kind of fun to do it yourself.'" "I think having a good idea is important, but it's not the whole ballgame." "I've learned that you've got to have a good team around you...I think it's one of the key success factors in starting and running a business." "You've got to be willing to pivot and change course." "We started Endgame in response to the 9/11 attacks...we saw a need in the market and we were able to fill it." "I think it's important to give back and help others succeed...I've enjoyed teaching and mentoring a lot of young entrepreneurs over the years." "I think the age-old principles of leadership and culture apply regardless of what you're building or operating." "The culture has to evolve." “I think some of the age-old principles of working as a team and leaning on one another for support, putting customers' interests first, focusing on solutions and how to improve, as opposed to dwelling on obstacles or reasons why you can't get done, all those are founding tenets of great culture." "When we got to IBM, it was very clear to me how different that culture was, because at ISS we were always pursuing opportunities, which meant we were pursuing risk." "The difference in what a 120-year-old bureaucracy is like as opposed to a 15-year-old bureaucracy." "Some of the early shenanigans that occurred in companies, I spent three decades trying to forget." Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok

Professional bull rider Shane Proctor joins Sandy and Sandra on the podcast today to discuss both the dangers and thrill of his exciting sport. Often referred to as the "most dangerous 8 seconds in sports," bull riding requires riders to stay on the bull for at least 8 seconds while holding onto a rope and with one hand free. In this episode, Proctor, who hails from Grand Coulee, Washington, shares his journey into the sport, and discusses the injuries he has sustained and the challenges he faces as a bull rider. He begins by talking about how he got his start in the sport at a young age, traveling with his father to rodeos and learning to ride bulls and rope calves. Shane then reviews some of the injuries he has sustained and how he has persevered through the pain to continue competing, and provides an overview of the sport including details regarding the bulls involved, techniques and equipment involved, and how the judging works. He also goes on to highlight the importance of mental preparation and staying focused in the face of danger, the thrill of the sport, and the rush of adrenaline he experiences when he's in the arena. Shane finishes up this fascinating conversation by sharing details about the different types of trick riding acts that his wife, Haley, performs, and offering his perspective on both the future of the sport and the resurgence of interest in the Western lifestyle. The Finer Details of this Episode: Shane's journey into the world of professional bull riding The injuries he has sustained  Staying focused in the face of danger The thrill of the sport and the rush of adrenaline involved Bull personalities and how they are bred  Aggressive vs. more laid back bulls The process of selecting which bull to ride The techniques and gear used in the sport Mental preparation and visualization The different types of trick riding acts that his wife performs Resurgent interest in the Western lifestyle Quotes: "I actually had six broken ribs, and then I had the laceration on my lung and had a hole in the lung. And after a five-day hospital stay, I was able to get out and we're getting to feeling better." "You've got to make a living and got to kind of push the limits when the end of your season is coming up." "Mental toughness is probably one of the biggest things in bull riding, more so than any other sport." "The future of bull riding is going to be technology. It's going to be making it safer for the cowboys and the bulls." "We all support each other and we all want each other to do well. It's a unique camaraderie that we have." "Their job is to get you on the ground. Their job is to do what nature intends for them to do." "I want to be the best in the world, and I want to be remembered as the best in the world." "It's important to give back to your community, to your rodeo committees, to your rodeo producers." "It is a rhythm. And you can pick up, like I was talking earlier, about the leads of the bulls. You can pick up which way they step and which way they feel, and you can actually feel which way they're going to turn by the way their feet are planted." "Mandatory, we all wear a vest. And it's not a bulletproof vest or anything like that. It's a hard shell, and then there's padding around it." "There's no straps, she's not tied on. She moves around, she turns around backwards, and she weaves these fire torches." "She stands up in the hippodrome straps, carrying an American flag with pyro. And she actually won a world title championship in that, I think, about eight years ago." "It's a business decision for me. The less I get hurt, the more I can ride, the more money I can make." Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok Shane's PBR Profile

In today's episode of The Adrenaline Zone, Sandra and Sandy welcome veteran ski patroller, avalanche expert, and Assistant Director of Ski Patrol on Aspen Mountain, Samantha Haberman, to the podcast. Together, they delve into the intricate and high-stakes world of ski patrol and avalanche control, the physical and mental challenges of working in harsh, high-altitude environments and the importance of risk management in her line of work. Their conversation also touches on Haberman's personal journey to becoming a ski patroller, including her background in Aspen and her decision to take a solo bike trip across the country after college. Throughout the interview, they look at the various techniques and tools used to mitigate the risk of avalanches, including the use of explosives, ski cuts, and skier compaction, as well as the importance of self-care for ski patrollers. The diverse and dynamic role of ski patrollers, including their responsibilities in emergency medical care and lift evacuations is also examined, and Samantha shares some of her experiences responding to medical incidents on the mountains, some of her most memorable and unusual experiences as a ski patroller, and the importance of being prepared for the unexpected. They conclude today's fascinating episode by highlighting both the challenges and rewards of working in this field, the tight-knit culture of ski patrollers, the importance of trust and humility in the job, and the challenges of being a woman in a male-dominated profession.  The Finer Details of this Episode: Samantha's background and her path to her current occupation Her working environment and the risk management involved Ski Patrol requirements and responsibilities Avalanche control and some of the practices involved in it The mental challenges and adaptability involved in her work The importance of self-care The challenges and adrenaline-pumping moments of lift evacuations The diverse range of medical emergencies that ski patrollers may encounter  The tight-knit community to which Samantha belongs Some of the more memorable experiences in her job Quotes: "I was actually extremely bookish and I loved reading and sitting by the fire. Then I went to college and when I graduated, all of my classmates seemed to have plans. They were going to grad school or they had prime jobs already. And I did not. And I panicked a little." "So, half of my family was talking to me at the time, and the other half was like, 'we're like cutting you off because that's super dangerous.'" "Risk management is crucial in ski patrol, as it involves ensuring the safety of skiers while also maintaining the integrity of the mountain." "The work of ski patrol involves a combination of physical labor and decision-making under pressure." "So we ensure that we get a good explosion, which is what we're looking for." "Mental and physical self-care is important for ski patrollers who work in high-stress environments." "Mountain conditions and weather can change rapidly and ski patrollers must be adaptable." "It varies every time, so you don't know exactly what you're going into." "I've been in an incident where you're holding a blanket over a paramedic so that they can intubate somebody." "Going out with explosives definitely puts you on your game." Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok Samantha Haberman LinkedIn

In today's very special episode, Sandy and Sandra are joined for the first segment by the one and only Santa Claus to discuss his annual toy delivery and the risks associated with it. Santa explains the logistics of North Pole operations and the challenges they have faced due to labor shortages and supply chain issues. While so many details of Santa's operation are understandably considered classified, he is able to shed some light on the incredible work he, Mrs.Claus, and the elves perform each year, while also stressing the importance of maintaining PPI to protect children's personal data. Our hosts then have the opportunity to speak with General Glen VanHerck, Commander of the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), as well as US Northern Command, who shares details on the role his team plays in tracking Santa on his journey each year. The General also goes on to explain how this mission started, how it has evolved over the years, and how listeners can access the NORAD Tracks Santa program. The Finer Details of this Episode: The scale of North Pole operations Challenges that Santa faces in his work The importance of maintaining personal professional privacy information How he ensures that toys are delivered on time The different risks associated with flying a sleigh around the world Some of the exciting experiences Santa has had while delivering toys The classified nature of much of Santa's operation General VanHerck's role and responsibilities NORAD and its NORAD Tracks Santa program The program's evolution over the years Quotes: "We have to come up with about 2 billion toys a year, maybe a little bit fewer because of the little naughty ones, but that's not such a big number." "I mean, ever since the great elf resignation, it's been tougher than blazes to get elves."  "If we were down there, we'd be up to our butts in elves, but we can't do that because the FAA won't let us fly over the 48 states. You know, they won't give us the permission. And then there's the whole labor thing.” “We are a risk manager's nightmare here. I'll tell you; we have a risk oversight committee, and we've got representatives from all the various health departments, and, you know, we've got air traffic control risks, we have risks of all those little reindeer hooves damaging roof tiles-- oh, the insurance company is all over us for that - we're working through that. We've got technology risks, you know, the sleigh is a very sophisticated piece of equipment,  "I'm up here in North Pole Operations Center, and as you can imagine, we track the world's population very closely—precisely, in fact." “If it emanates from space, it's a threat to North America, we identify that threat - or, it may not be a threat - both military and civilian. If it is a threat, then we do aerospace control as the Commander of NORAD, and we have fighters on alert each and every day to respond.” “Once Rudolph's nose is visible, we have a series of satellites - not only the radars but satellites - that detect the infrared signature of Rudolph's nose.” “We have multiple ways to track and follow NORAD Tracks Santa, even in the days leading up to NORAD Tracks Santa on Christmas Eve.” “It takes a large amount of people to execute this - we have on order of 1,500 volunteers that answer about 150,000 calls. We have 2 million followers, and about 14 million people check into our social media platforms to do this.” “Those are the ones that make it truly special - the ones that it's clear they're firm believers, they understand the power of Santa Claus, and they're expecting to get that message delivered. So, it's really an honor to have those conversations.” “I get up every day, very humbled to have the job to defend our homelands, knowing that this is the most noble job that anybody could have when you serve.” Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok NORAD Tracks Santa

It Is Brain Surgery with Neurosurgeon Dr. Ralph Dacey Neurosurgery is one of the most demanding medical fields, with practically no margin for error when operating. One small miscalculation can have profound effects on the patient. As a neurosurgeon and former chair of the Washington University Department of Neurosurgery, today's guest, Dr. Ralph Dacey, knows all about this pressure and responsibility. He begins the episode by outlining the demanding and competitive route into neurosurgery, including the surprisingly low attrition rate and how emergency care is incorporated into training. Sandy then asks Dr. Dacey how he deals with risk, and he points out that neurosurgeons don't risk their own lives but those of their patients, meaning that the burden must be shared by establishing a relationship built on medical ethics. Next, Dr. Dacey discusses the discipline of neurosurgery, including the state of current knowledge on the brain, the main sub-specialties, and the conditions that cannot yet be successfully treated. He also goes into detail on what happens in the operating room, describing the process of fixing an unruptured aneurysm, how neurosurgeons navigate inside the brain, and how forceful backup has become a more prominent part of the operating process. And finally, Dr. Dacey discusses the great highs and lows of being a neurosurgeon, emphasizing that it's ultimately a very rewarding life, with the highs definitely outnumbering the lows. The Finer Details of this Episode: The track to enter neurosurgery Sharing the burden of risk with the patient The discipline of neurosurgery What happens in the operating room The highs and lows of neurosurgery Quotes: “Neurosurgeons make up about 0.4% of all the physicians in the United States. So it's a competitive process, but mostly what we're looking for is people who are capable of working very hard and intensely. People who are capable of absorbing and processing a lot of technical and scientific information. We also want people that have fine character, like you're looking for in the Navy, and to be astronauts.” “There is a difference between people like you two and neurosurgeons with regard to how we deal with risk. When you did your risky and challenging things, you were risking your lives. It's different for us because we don't risk our lives, the patient is at risk. And we have to share the burden of that risk with the patient.” “There's some evidence that by very specific paradigms of stimulation of the brain, with minimally invasive, stimulating devices, that we may be able to improve memory and treat people with refractory depression. So we are working constantly with the neurologists on trying to expand our ability to take care of all the diseases that affect the brain. But you know, there are many that we can't successfully treat now, like progressive supranuclear palsy.” “The forceful backup is definitely something that's much more prominent now, in the operating room and in any kind of medical situation. So any member of the team is encouraged to speak up if they don't think something's going properly or there's a problem. And if someone does that, we basically stop and try to figure out what the problem is. And that has been a great improvement in the way we do things in surgery and in medical care in general.” Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok

Under the Ice with Submarine Commander Sean Flanagan Chatting with Sandra and Sandy today is Sean Flanagan, former captain of the USS Pasadena, a nuclear powered submarine that sails in the Arctic Circle. When operating military machinery under ice caps and keels, some reaching 200 feet deep, the term ‘Cold War' takes on a new meaning. Since 2009, the U.S. has maintained a national presence in the Arctic to protect our interests throughout the region, and Flanagan's experience doing so is just what the trio talk about today. After graduating from high school at the age 18, Flanagan joined the Navy for what would turn out to be a very long and successful career.   On today's episode of the Adrenaline Zone, Sean talks about life beneath the ice, the hard work that granted him such a position, underwater navigation tools, and how he and his team prepare for emergencies. Living and working on the USS Pasadena, Flanagan reckoned not only with the importance of experience, but also the lack of off duty time that accompanies the job. He closes out today's episode with a brief story remembering a moment when things got a little hairy. So be sure to listen in to today's special episode to learn a little bit more about life under the ice. The Finer Details of This Episode:  Flanagan's early start in the Navy Submarine Force pipeline Special selection criteria  Life below the ice Navigating with sonar sensors  Preparing for emergencies Sailors' off duty time The steep learning curve Quotes:  “I would say operating a submarine under the ice sort of gives a new meaning to the term ‘Cold War'.” “So that first tour for a junior officer is basically learning everything that you can about being a submarine officer.” “By the time you get to be the captain of a sub, you've had at least three submarine tours; you probably have four because you started off as an enlisted Submariner, and then all this other training and preparation.” “In 2009, President Bush signed the National Security Presidential Directive 66, which basically said that our role in the Arctic is to assert an active and influential national presence to protect those interests and to project sea power throughout the region.” “It turns out that when ice forms, the different flows can kind of crash into one another, and instead of fusing together they create one that will go under the other one. That will create these long, very deep ice structures that are called ice keels. And they can go down to 200 feet deep.” “So you've got the things over you that are coming down 200 feet and you have the ground that is coming up at you–you can be very constrained, I mean to the tune of several meters above and below you.” “One of the things that really struck me when I was in Annapolis… was the importance of experience.” “What I will say is that in high risk, high intensity operations, a lot of their off duty time is spent preparing for their on duty time. And then we still had to do things like laundry, eat, and clean– that kind of stuff.” “So you have to basically do a controlled sinking and the submarine, you have to make it heavier than water. And it has to go down and it has to get deeper than all these ice keels before you can start moving forward. While you're sinking the submarine deeper, deeper, and deeper, you don't have your control surfaces. Your main engines aren't warmed up as you're doing all these things in the meantime.” Links:  The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok USS Pasadena

Himalayan Odyssey with Hyatt Chairman Tom Pritzker The Himalayas are a massive mountain range in Central Asia that inspire awe and respect in anyone who visits. Humans have been living in their shadows for centuries, and the region is rich in culture and history. As well as being Chairman of Hyatt Hotels and The Pritzker Organization, Sandy and Sandra's guest today, Tom Pritzker, is also a recognized archaeological expert on a particular section of the western Himalayas and Tibetan art and culture. He's here today to discuss the remarkable work he's done and continues to do in the remote areas of the Himalayas to discover and expose the traditions and heritage of this region. Tom opens the episode by sharing how he got interested in archaeology as a subject and the Himalayas specifically. He recalls a childhood memory of tracing his future adventures on a map of the world and how he later went searching for a cultural adventure with his wife Margot, winding up living with the Tibetans in Trans-Himalaya for two months in 1978. He then describes becoming interested in Rinchen Zangpo, the priest who brought Buddhism to Tibet, and following the places named in his biography for the next forty years, including discovering a historically significant bronze commissioned by Zangpo himself. Tom also discusses how the philosophy of Buddhism has positively influenced his life, including in the business world, helping him to develop a healthy mind and an agile mindset. The Finer Details of this Episode: Searching for cultural adventure in the Himalayas Making historical discoveries in Tibet Buddhism and the agile mindset Risky situations and close calls Adventuring as the family business Quotes: “This is Trans-Himalaya, this is literally on the northern side of the Himalayas, sort of sandwiched in between the Tibetan border and the Himalayas. And it's Tibetan community, and we lived with the Tibetans for more than two months. And this was all walking, no communication, lots of adventure, lots of discovery. We think we were in the first ten outsiders to ever penetrate this area. And so that opened up a whole window into a world that was just very, very different.” “We go in to the temple keeper and say, ‘We need you to take the clothes off the bronze.' This would be like, at a dinner party, saying to your dinner party, ‘Would you mind taking off all your clothes?' Guy thought we were completely nuts, convinced him to do it, and sure enough, the ring finger on his right hand was missing. And so, we had discovered this bronze that's written about in history.” “The one thing all of us can control is our attitude. We get to completely own it, and nobody has any rights to it. And if you can make that malleable to a situation or to some adversity, if you can begin to look at that in a certain way and have it make sense to you, all of a sudden, you get up in the morning and say, ‘You know what? This is interesting. This is a time under assault. This is gonna be really interesting to see how they do it, how I do it, how we navigate it.'” “In the business world, to me, the scarce resource is not IQ, it's judgment. And I've always tried to figure out, how do you train for judgment? What are the correlations for judgment? And my hypothesis—I have no idea if it's accurate or not—is that experience is the breeding ground for judgment. And I always tell my kids, if you can just have zillions of experiences, that's going to improve your judgment.” Link The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok

On this episode of the Adrenaline Zone, Sandy and Sandra are joined by storm chaser Hank Schyma, aka Pecos Hank. Unlike most who go indoors when thunder roars, Schyma does the exact opposite. When a severe storm warning crosses his path, he packs up his car with film gear and heads off to rendezvous with the storm. Today he talks about all things Mother Nature, from hunting for hotspots and the unexpected dangers of storm chasing to TLE's and Hollywood's hokey interpretation of the job. Opening up the episode with brief notes on his childhood love for storms, Hank recalls the journey that led him from his boyish bedroom to Tornado Alley. As one would expect with a career like Schyma's, making his dream a reality was no easy pursuit and certainly cost him a lot - especially in gas money - along the way. So listen in today and get swept up in Hank's riveting analysis of the ins and outs of storm chasing, the rather unexpected dangers of the chase, and the role that adrenaline plays in this work to which he has dedicated his life. Thanks to Culligan Water for sponsoring this episode! The Finer Details of this Episode:  Schyma's early love for storm chasing Why Schyma's timing is everything Hunting for hotspots Unexpected dangers of storm chasing Adrenaline V. Anxiety  Schyma's shooting style TLE's Merging science and art Storm Chasing in Hollywood Quotes:  “If something doesn't interest me, it's going to be really hard for me to learn it. So cameras, documenting things, and Mother Nature has always just been so easy for me.” “On those days, you kind of feel anxiety and adrenaline. You're feeling that on the morning you wake up, because wow, ‘Godzilla' is coming, even though he's nine hours away.” “The things that I'm good at, and the things that I'm not good at in life have funneled me to this trade.” “I would take a close tornado that I'm in control of versus I-35 commute any day with the people driving on their phone; that is so dangerous. And we can joke about that, but for storm chasers, that's the big reality: the danger is the commutes.” “People talk about the adrenaline junkie. And I've said, I'm not that guy now. I'm like, maybe I just don't understand adrenaline. But for me, I've always thought that it gets in the way of what I'm trying to do.” “So if I'm screaming, cursing, and shaking the camera, that interferes with– even though that can be a great delivery for entertainment, I'm not ragging on that style at all. But my style is I want to go back and observe the tornado. And it's easier to observe with stable footage.” “So there's a very high false alarm rate, which is what they've opted to do; better to warn than not warn.” “So perhaps the green ghosts are shedding light. I think people were surprised that the oxygen was exciting at that level.” Links:  The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok Hank's Homepage Hank's YouTube Hank's Twitter

On today's episode, Sandra and Sandy are joined by professional baseball catcher Yan Gomes of the Chicago Cubs. Yan is one of the best in the game, having spent ten years of his thirteen-year career in the major leagues, including as a world champion with the Washington Nationals in 2019. He kicks off the episode by sharing his journey from growing up in Brazil with a family of athletes to finding his feet in the US through baseball and finally heading to the University of Tennessee before becoming a pro and playing all around the country. Sandra then asks about life behind the plate and the risk inherent in catching, and Yan shares that he loves that risk because it makes him feel involved in the game no matter what. He thinks physical collisions are all part of the job and isn't a huge fan of rule changes that try to eliminate them. Of course, it's not just physical risk that catchers endure, and Yan next discusses the mental processing he does during a game in his role as real-time game manager and leader of the infield. In particular, he talks about the relationship between pitcher and catcher, the differences when dealing with rookies and veterans, and the importance of accepting compromise instead of bullishly insisting on your way. The conversation then shifts to Yan's time on the World Series-winning Washington Nationals team, and he gives some insight into how they recovered from a pretty miserable record by changing their mentality and learning to have fun while playing. Yan also shares how it felt when he caught the last pitch of the series, securing the win, and the memories that still give him goosebumps to this day. And, to round off the episode, Yan gives his opinion on umpires, his contributions as a hitter, and the routines (not superstitions!) he follows before a game. The Finer Details of this Episode: How Yan made it from Brazil to the major leagues Risk, endurance, and trust as a catcher The inside story on the 2019 Washington Nationals team Winning the World Series Being a catcher vs a hitter Quotes: “I actually just ran away from school one day. I just wasn't adjusting very well, but then, to kind of loop back around, my sports brought us all back together. I had a really good friend of mine that we played baseball with, and they started noticing that I could play baseball. And that's how I adjusted better and started making friends.” “I actually came up as, like, a super-utility guy. And I just always felt like there could be a whole game where I wasn't even a part of the game, like I'll be hiding out in left field or hiding out at third base sometimes. So catching, to me, it was always like, man, no matter what, I'm always involved. No matter what, I can show the bruises that I got in today's game.” “It taught us to really just go one and oh, worry about what's in front of us right now. What's tomorrow is gonna come. And that really changed our mindset. And we truly started having a lot more fun, started really, truly playing for each other, and that's the recipe for a winning ball club, really.” “It was a moment where we had a guy like Ryan Zimmerman, who's been with this organization, with the Nationals for as long as the Nationals have been there. Watching the look in his eyes when he's like, I can't believe it. Like, we've done it. You know, we're all grown men, and we're all in tears. It gives me goosebumps to even think about it because I remember those moments like it was yesterday.” “I think as the game evolves, the beauty of baseball and baseball players is that we evolve as well. I can tell you, when I first came up, there was no chance I could hit 100 miles an hour. Now, you're seeing that every day. So, 100 miles an hour, it's still really fast, but we've been able to slow the game down and been able to slow down 100 miles an hour.” The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok Yan Gomes on Instagram

Today on The Adrenaline Zone, Sandy and Sandra welcome Rebecca Brock Dixon, founder of the*gameHERs, a media platform and social network for women who game. In this episode, Rebecca lets us into the world of esports, what it takes to start a business, and why what she's doing with gamers is changing the sport. First up, Rebecca shares how she got into gaming herself, having started in the corporate professional world before moving into entrepreneurship and getting drawn into esports by the huge success of the gaming industry and the fact that half of gamers are women. Next, Rebecca explains exactly what esports is—professional, competitive video gaming—how it's structured and monetized, and what the experience of going to a tournament is like. She also talks about the amazing fan culture and the enthusiasm fans have for their teams and favorite players. Rebecca then focuses on the involvement of women in gaming and esports—about half of the world's three billion gamers are women—and how, despite such numbers, women gamers are often overshadowed, especially in the media and the professional side of gaming. Rebecca suggests that much of this is down to the early marketing of games as “boys' toys” and their reputation as being isolating but points out that women have always been part of the gaming world and are eager to share the great experiences they've had through it. Moreover, she highlights how games can teach valuable, transferable skills, from hand-eye coordination to teamwork, that can be used in myriad industries, including the wide variety of jobs on offer in esports. And Rebecca also discusses her company, the*gameHERs, which aims to be the go-to space for women interested in gaming, whether they're looking for community or professional opportunities. Thanks to Culligan Water for sponsoring this episode! With Culligan's drinking water systems, you can get the ultra-filtered water that you need to fuel your high-performance lifestyle, right on tap. Learn more at Culligan.com. The Finer Details of this Episode: What is esports? The experience at esports tournaments Women in esports Breaking down barriers and stereotypes in the gaming community Building a community for women gamers Quotes: “The statistic that everyone loves to quote is that gaming is twice the size of the movie plus the music industry. So you take movie plus music times two, gaming is still bigger than that. So I thought, wow, I kind of want to learn more about that.” “When the players arrived on stage, it was like madness. I mean, it was just complete celebrity freakout, and all the colors of each team were there, they all have cheers, it is literally like a sporting event. They all have nicknames, and they were giving the heart.” “We are sitting in a moment in time when gaming is intersecting with quite literally everything from education to health care, to the military, to kids, adults. And so, the word gaming itself, the video game industry itself, almost needs a little bit of a rebrand and PR makeover.” “Most of these women want to talk about all the great stuff, you know, how they met their best friends through video games, how they got their career through video games, how they had some serious mental health problems, and video games were a tool that they were able to use. And in fact, one of our strongest partners, one of our most long-term partners is the Center for Suicide Awareness. And one of their main tools that they use is gaming.” “Kids who play on esports teams are more likely to do a lot of the stuff I just said, like the six-figure salary right out of college, but more likely to volunteer in life and be compassionate and charitable. And you know, it makes sense. I mean, you're on a team, you're learning responsibility and disappointment and hard work.” Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage Rebecca's LinkedIn the*gameHERs

On today's episode of The Adrenaline Zone, Sandy and Sandra welcome Captain Amy Bauernschmidt, the first woman to ever serve as the Executive Officer and then as the Commanding Officer of a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier. Amy starts the conversation by taking us all the way back to her beginnings and telling us about her journey of becoming a naval aviator. During the time she spent at the Naval Academy, Amy got a chance to go through different types of training and see many aspects of the Navy. Since being a naval aviator allows you to explore a lot of possible pathways after squadron command, one of them being entering the pipeline to become a carrier CO, Amy decided to pursue this path and become the first woman to command an aircraft carrier. Next, Amy talks about different leadership challenges, from commanding USS San Diego as preparation before switching to USS Abraham Lincoln to studying naval aviation and getting nuclear power training. She says these experiences were challenging, but extremely beneficial to her career. Then, she opens up about the major risks that can occur when commanding an aircraft, emphasizing the importance of mutual support and understanding in a navigation team. To put it in her words, ‘it is all on the Commanding Officer's shoulders, but you're never doing any of it alone'. Finally, Amy shares her experience of being a woman in the Navy and the first woman to command an aircraft carrier. She believes that the stakes have changed for women and that she is really optimistic about where the Navy is going with women. The Finer Details of this Episode: Becoming a naval aviator and then the first woman to command a US aircraft carrier The USS. San Diego as preparation for USS Abraham Lincoln Studying naval aviation and getting a nuclear power training The importance of mutual support in a team Leading 5000 people towards the same goal The experiences and recognition of women in the Navy Quotes: “One piece of advice I was given by some at the time, folks that had completed command was, 'Hey, think about what comes after that.'” “It's the folks above you that understand the expectations and the standards that ensure that as you grow up, and you get higher and higher qualifications, that you are getting done exactly what needs to be done for, frankly, in one of the most dangerous places in the world, which is the flight deck of an aircraft carrier, but it's also amazing.” “Yes, it is all on the Commanding Officer's shoulders, but you're never doing any of it alone. And I do have an incredible navigation team and incredible reactor team and incredible air department team.” “I think leadership is hard because it is people and not everyone is motivated by the same thing, not everyone responds in the same way. And when you're talking about 5000 people, it's a lot of people to try to move in a direction.” “Come to my ship, you will see the next generation, and you will have absolutely no concerns whatsoever about where this country is going because they're incredibly amazing human beings.” Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok Amy Bauernschmidt on LinkedIn

On today's episode of The Adrenaline Zone, Sandy and Sandra interview two-time World Champion skier and lifelong outdoor enthusiast, Chris Davenport. Widely recognized as one of the top skiers in the world, he is the first person to ski all fifty-four of Colorado's 14,000-foot peaks in less than one year. Chris starts the conversation by talking about his earlier skiing experiences. As he recounts, he was exposed to all the joys of being outdoors very early on so the passion for outdoor activities was instilled in him at a young age. Then, Chris discusses the potential risks and challenges that sports like skiing involve. According to him, the trick is to get smart at handling risk. Next, Chris talks about the "goosebump" moment that all ski athletes experience – the feeling of looking down a huge mountain, seeing a big crowd cheering you on, and observing the surroundings. Believe it or not, Chris still gets butterflies in his stomach in moments like these which is one of the many indicators of his love for skiing and ski racing. Then, Chris discusses one of his biggest accomplishments, becoming the first person to ski fifty-four mountains in one year. He even wrote a book about it, called Ski The 14ers, where he told a story about this once-in-a-lifetime adventure. Finally, Chris proceeds to talk about the importance of efficient equipment for skiers. He also opens up about his current projects and activities. He's still very much spreading his passion for skiing and teaching others to understand the language of the mountains. The Finer Details of this Episode: Pursuing a childhood passion as a career The racecar driver analogy and learning to mitigate risks Understanding the language of the mountains Skiing fifty-four mountains in one year The importance of efficient ski equipment Turning skiing into a career Quotes: “Part of the reason I loved doing this sport and continue to love being out in the big mountains is I love looking at it holistically: How do we get the best possible outcome from the thing that we're trying to do, whether it's climbing a mountain or skiing back down a mountain? And what are the things that could trip us up trying to identify those potential risks, and then figure out how we mitigate them.” “The goal of getting to the top or skiing back down is almost secondary to the experience of just being out there. So, when I think about it that way, and I go out and just put one foot in front of the other in the mountains, I'm just always having a good time, it's sort of managing expectations is what it is. You keep those expectations low, you generally exceed them, and then that's a good thing.” “You could be a world champion, you can be an Olympic champion, you can have all this experience. But you still get those butterflies when you're in the gate, because you care, you love it so much. You want to do your best.” “Skiing down is so much fun. It's so free and can be intense, but in a good way.” “I've had such a wonderful career. It's been so blessed. And I really love giving back nowadays in a number of different ways.” Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok Chris Davenport Website Ski The 14ers Book

On today's episode of The Adrenaline Zone, Sandy and Sandra welcome Jess Cramp, a marine biologist and shark researcher. Jess is also the founder of Shark Pacific, which is a non-profit organization for studying and protecting sharks. Jess kicks off the episode by telling us about her exciting journey from quitting a high-paying job to beginning an adventure of her lifetime –sharks' preservation. She also opens up about her childhood and how it helped her learn she should always listen to her gut and pursue her passions. Jessdebunks some popular shark myths and then shares the details of her day-to-day job activities, from catching and tagging sharks to tracking their movement and protecting them. She says that despite popular belief, sharks are not necessarily dangerous and won't probably even come close to you while you're diving, especially if you don't have any bait on you. Then, Jess proceeds to talk about the importance of preventing overfishing, which is currently the greatest threat to sharks. Finally, Jess points out the true impact of preservation measures and why it's important to advocate for shark protection. The Finer Details of this Episode: Leaving a stable job to make a change in the world Discussing the first (and the most important) shark experience Debunking popular shark myths The importance of preventing overfishing and protecting sharks Quotes: “There were a bunch of grey reef sharks circling me and following me. And I wasn't filled with terror. I thought it was the most incredible experience just to have these sharks just so curiously following me. And then, as serendipity would have it, there was a marine biologist on the boat. And we had been talking a bit about the plight of sharks, and I've learned a bit about it as well. But it, I suppose, clicked for me that, yeah, it's something that maybe I could do.” “I think most folks think that my life entails shark swimming and beautiful clear water, and yes, it does do that from time to time. But the majority of my time is spent on fishing deck boats, large and small. And that is because I'm tracking the movement patterns of sharks, and in order to do that, I need to catch the animals and place the tag on them. And so that mostly happens from a boat.” “Just to get back to your main question of how dangerous are they. My favorite answer? It depends. If you're just out diving, you're very lucky a shark could even come up to you. In fact, most of the footage that you see on nature documentaries, and in particular, with people interacting with sharks, they generally have bait. And if they come up and check you out on a dive, you're very lucky. And so, I always considered that, instead of us being afraid, we should be actually quite thankful that we do get the opportunity to see them in the wild without bait.” “The short answer is you read the situation like you do in any job. You know when it's looking risky, and you make a call based on all available factors, such as how far do I have to swim back to shore, or is there a boat right here? Or am I alone? Is there another person? Do I have anything to poke a shark away with? You get a little space, and you make a call based on your experience and situation.” “I'm not a huge fan of the hand feeding operation. It's just not necessary to experience that interaction. To experience a positive interaction with sharks, I don't think it's necessary to hand feed them, and when people are touching them, putting their hands all over them, I'm not a huge fan of that. They are wildlife and should be respected as such.” Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok Shark Pacific Website The Outlaw Ocean by Ian Urbina

On this week's episode of The Adrenaline Zone, Sandy and Sandra are joined by former army doctor and infectious disease physician Matt Hepburn, who led the COVID-19 vaccine development effort with Operation Warp Speed. Matt opens their conversation by sharing how his parents instilled in him a sense of service to others and his country that led him to a career in military medicine, taking him from the ROTC in college to working across the US government. He speaks in detail about his work with DARPA and its philosophy of taking risks to encourage breakthrough innovations before discussing how Operation Warp Speed also balanced risk with a commitment to safety to make COVID vaccines available as soon as possible. Matt then discusses the challenge and rewards of bringing together different cultures of expertise from medicine and the military to work on the COVID response and his role as translator between those two worlds. Next, Matt gives insight into the logistical challenges of distributing the COVID vaccines and explains that the team's military elements were instrumental in this respect as they have great experience and skill in operational planning. Not only that, but he points out that military leadership teaches you to make decisions in the face of uncertainty and take action where others might hesitate, something that was crucial given the unpredictable development of the pandemic. Then Matt discusses the difficulty of effectively getting the vaccine message out to the public and how fear and sensationalism can distort perceptions—but he also sees the hope in this situation and the opportunity for people to take more responsibility for their own health. He also addresses what the future might look like with COVID and how the government is dealing with the new monkeypox outbreak while fighting against the public's pandemic fatigue. And finally, Matt reflects on the importance of risk takers in the effort against COVID and his hope that such people are encouraged to keep going against criticism because society needs those who are willing to take a leap in the face of uncertainty. The Finer Details of this Episode: Balancing innovation, risk, and speed in a pandemic The logistical challenges of distributing vaccines Making decisions in the face of uncertainty Politicization and public perception Dealing with the monkeypox outbreak Quotes: “It's been an incredibly rewarding career because the mission or the purpose is to serve those who serve us. So I think we have a solemn obligation to protect those that are in harm's way and to take care of their families as well. And I think one of the best ways to do that is offer them world-class health care.” “The mantra of DARPA is ‘breakthrough innovation for national security.' The DARPA leadership had, I think, the prescience and does have the prescience to say that pandemics, outbreaks of biological threats are national security, one of our greatest national security threats and challenges. But if we truly want to be breakthrough, you have to take risks.” “A lot of people, especially, you know, in large organizations, are very hesitant. They want, they need more information. ‘Well, we need more data. We're not going to make this decision. We're going to postpone this, we're going to postpone that.' And I think military leadership really teaches you, you've got to act. And you're gonna act on limited information, you're going to have as much at the time, but you have to act.” “You can't motivate people by fear. You know, a lot of people said, ‘Well, why don't we prepare for pandemics?' Well, people don't want to prepare, you know, and that's an issue that we're dealing with now. And like, how do we prepare for the future?” Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok

Sandy and Sandra's guest this episode is Phil Reilly, a former CIA paramilitary officer who was the first American on the ground in Afghanistan in the wake of the 9/11 attacks. Phil starts by explaining a little about the history and organization of the CIA and how the paramilitary fits into it. He also talks about the tough vetting process to get into the CIA and how recruits are analyzed to determine which area they'll be placed in. Phil then shares his own journey to the CIA, including his time on a HALO team as a Green Beret, his choice between the Navy or the Agency, and his paramilitary and operational training. He also shares some details of his experiences in Central America in the 80s and with operating under an alias persona, something that would likely not be possible in our age of ubiquitous technical surveillance and global connectivity. Next, Sandy asks Phil to discuss his experience on the ground in Afghanistan after the 9/11 attacks. Phil explains that he was chosen to be on the Jawbreaker team that was picked just two or three days after the attacks and discusses the team's mission to prepare the way for US military boots on the ground. He also talks about some of the risks and concerns they had to deal with and his personal feelings on responding to a direct attack on US soil. Then he discusses how the environment changed after he returned as the Chief of Station of Kabul, especially in relation to the Afghan people and their relationship with the US troops, before addressing his feelings on how the US military's presence in Afghanistan ended. And finally, Phil points out some of the benefits of a career in the CIA, including having a real mission and getting to see the world. The Finer Details of this Episode: The paramilitary's role in the CIA Military experience and CIA training Phil's experiences in Central America The post-9/11 mission in Afghanistan The benefits of a career in the CIA Quotes: “If you go down to a JSOC unit, a special mission unit of the United States Government today and put a hundred guys in a room and say, ‘Who here's been in CIA?' you may not get a hand raised. But if you go to ground branch, and you ask how many people served in the US military, a hundred percent of the hands will be raised.” “You're going to also get the operational training as a case officer, as a collector of intelligence, of being able to go out and spot assess, develop, and recruit foreign sources for CIA, so you are dual-hatted. Paramilitary may be your primary focus, but you also have the case officer skills, so that is all trained, and you're provided that training at the farm.” “The mission was straightforward. Get to the Northern Alliance, bring them to our side, and prepare the way for the introduction of US military boots on the ground, as well as collect intelligence on Al-Qaeda, the perpetrators of the events of 9/11.” “I tell people, young people, that you're never going to be a millionaire working for the United States Government, regardless of what branch you go to. But if you want to see the world, you want to have a real mission, be able to go do a lot of different things, then join CIA.” Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage The Adrenaline Zone on Instagram The Adrenaline Zone on Twitter The Adrenaline Zone on TikTok   Freedom Consulting Group

Sandra and Sandy are excited to welcome Andy Weir, renowned author of Project Hail Mary and, more famously, The Martian, to the podcast. Before he became a self-published, best-selling author, Weir spent two decades working as a software engineer, and it wasn't until he was laid off that he actually got to pursue writing as more than just a hobby. And so The Martian was born. After creating weekly blog posts to share his work, thousands of his fans requested he publish it on Amazon - and the rest, as they say, is history. In no time, The Martian was a bestseller, and on its way to becoming a massively popular movie. Since completing The Martian, Weir has kept his eyes trained on worlds beyond ours. Project Hail Mary and Artemis really hone in on space as a character, and Weir acknowledges as much when he talks about his books' structure. As a beloved author in the world of science fiction, the pressure is on now that he's writing his next book. His advice for himself? He's taking the same tip he gives to budding writers: Just put pen to paper. After all, you actually need to write to consider yourself a writer.  The Finer Details of This Episode:  Andy's experience writing gaming software Starting his blog  The onset of the internet and self-publishing Closing quick book and film deals The writing process for the The Martian and Artemis  Advice for budding writers  Quotes:  “Many people don't think of writing as risky. But those who have tried to get the attention of editors and publishers know the crushing disappointment from endless rejections and unflattering critiques.” “I just started writing on the side for fun, you know, I would write short stories, or I made web comics and stuff like that. And that was my hobby. And then as the internet got more and more prevalent, I ended up with more and more readers. And eventually, I wrote the Martian.” “It's very easy to self publish with Amazon, and I did that. And then it started really selling on Amazon and became a Kindle best seller, and then kind of a best seller in books in general.” “So I had 3000, expert fact checkers; all of them would check every claim I made. If I made any mistakes, they were on it right away, which was great so that The Martian came out being extremely accurate, except for a few violations of physics that I did on purpose for narrative purposes.” “The film deal and the book deal came together four days apart.” “So I was basically told by everyone, ‘Don't get excited. They're not actually going to make the movie, but enjoy the money that you get…' So I zeroed in on the book and just did not even pay attention to the movie process.” “Once they start shooting a film, they won't cancel in the middle, except for extreme circumstances, because it's cheaper. Even if they regret starting the process. It's cheaper for them to finish the film.” “I have to tell you that The Martian, that movie is the only one that made me feel homesick for space.” “I got 70,000 words in… before I realized that it sucked. It was just this meandering plot that wasn't going anywhere… It was painful to shut that down.” “It's easy to think a story is perfect when it's in your head. But when you start putting it on paper, that's when you start running into the problems and that's when you start solving the problems.” Links:   The Adrenaline Zone Homepage Andy Weir Homepage Andy Weir on Twitter Freedom Consulting Group

Jon Scheyer, former professional player and newly anointed head coach at Duke, joins the conversation with Sandra and Sandy today. He provides us with a sneak peak into the world of collegiate basketball, Coach K's diligent and personal prep work, and his vision for the storied Duke basketball program. As long as he can remember, Scheyer has been competitive; maybe too much so, if you ask his mother. So it's no surprise that he went on to have an illustrious career.   From record breaking high school player and Duke recruit to international professional player and now the youngest head coach in Division 1, Scheyer attributes his success to his strong competitive edge. He's also one of the lucky few who had the chance to learn from and work with living legend, Mike Krzyzewski. Believing in the power of preparation, Coach K gave his all to the Duke program, and Coach Scheyer hopes to now do the same. At the end of the day though, following in the big footsteps of Coach Mike Krzyzewski is no light task. Scheyer's response to the critics and online hate? He says he has a short memory. He simply moves on and gets to work - a model approach that will benefit his players and program immensely for years to come. The Finer Details of This Episode:  His competitive perseverance His high school and collegiate basketball career Scheyer's life changing eye injury Playing basketball abroad Coach K and the power of preparation  Coaching at Duke Battling adversity Quotes:  “He's not only the youngest coach in Division One, which puts him in the spotlight, but he's had his work cut out for him and his first few months, backfilling a raft of departing talent and molding Duke's longstanding program to his vision.” “When it came to free throws or the work on the court, that never was an issue for me.” “I was supposed to be playing NBA Summer League with the Miami Heat. I was in the hospital in Chicago, getting heavy doses of steroids trying to get my eyesight back. So it really knocked me back.” “I felt like when my injury happened, it was my opportunity to help others reach the goal that I just missed out on. And so it's been a pleasure for me this year. We had five players drafted in the NBA.” “He is a machine when it comes to his daily preparation, after a game, before practice, whatever it may be.” “Now in the world we live in with social media, our games are on ESPN. You're 18 years old, and you get criticized. That's a different feeling. It's not a high school game anymore.” “It's good to have a bad memory, right? Like a pitcher who gives up a homerun. Move on.” Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage Jon Scheyer on Instagram

For her day job, Sarah Arnosky Ko is vice-president of Greater St. Louis Incorporated, where she helps bring the business community together in the Gateway City. But in her spare time, she's known as Bricktator, a star player for the St. Louis-based Arch Rival Roller Derby team. Today, she joins Sandy and Sandra to give us all the lowdown on how roller derby works, what drew her to it, and why the sport is growing in popularity around the globe. First up, Sarah tells us about the origins of roller derby, way back in the 1930s, and explains how the sport works, including how you score points and what a jammer is. She also shares some of her experiences of traveling for competitions and coaching, and talks about roller derby's global growth trajectory as a sport that seems to naturally intrigue people. That includes Sarah, and she shares the story of how she got drawn into roller derby after watching a match and becoming fascinated by the powerful women playing it. She also gives us some inner details about roller derby, including the significance of the skaters' names, how they communicate on the rink, and how they deal with risks and injuries. And, for those who, like Sarah, find themselves interested in becoming a skater, Sarah explains the training newcomers undergo, emphasizes the welcoming atmosphere roller derby provides, and reassures Sandra that there's no upper age limit to becoming a skater! And finally, Sarah tells us what she and the team do to psyche themselves up for, and wind down, from a tournament (and lets us in on roller-derby afterparties as well as the secret of zombies-versus-robots competitions). The Finer Details of this Episode: The mechanics of roller derby Roller derby's growth Sarah's travels with the sport Skater names, secret codes, rules, and risks How to get started in roller derby How the team psyches up and winds down Quotes: “It takes everyone on the team to score points because it is hard. You are literally throwing your body in between other bodies, trying to get past them or to stop them. And so it really is something where you have to be fearless in order to really be successful in this sport.” “One of the favorite places I never expected to go was a city in Spain called A Coruña, which is in northern Spain. It's green, it was beautiful, and it was on the ocean. And we really got to swim in the ocean after games as our, quote, ice bath, you know, because it was a little bit cold. But every time we go someplace, we really get to experience a little bit of what it has to offer.” “The speech that you really get is like, this is fun, we will be your family. And it's really not a matter of if but when you get hurt in some capacity, right? Like, we have people around you that can support you. But know that roller derby is rad. And we're excited you're here.” “At the end of the tournament, there's often an afterparty, and we always like to have themes for our clothing. And so, as a team, we'll go out all decked out in, like, outer-space outfits, or we've even had ‘dads on vacation,' where we have our cargo shorts and button-up shirts for our afterparty. So we really like to, you know, after we work hard, we go have some fun, too.” Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage Arch Rival Roller Derby Homepage

On today's episode of The Adrenaline Zone, Sandra and Sandy are joined by Kate Dargan Marquis, who has made a career out of the complex and dangerous business of wildland firefighting. Kate kicks things off by discussing the structure of roles in the wildland firefighting world, the situations they respond to, and the training involved, including constant heat conditioning. She then steps back in time to share how she got into firefighting by volunteering as a smokejumper in the summer before college—one of very few women at the time—before discussing some of the challenges she's faced more recently at the high level of the firefighting business. In particular, she talks about the tensions between reducing environmental impact and protecting lives and how that will be the central problem for firefighting in the next twenty to thirty years as climate change continues. Kate then moves on to discuss the cycle of wildland fire and how the teams respond, describing in detail the processes that unfold on a bad fire day. She also addresses how risks are mitigated, from the uniforms that firefighters wear to the equipment they carry and how training focuses on awareness that fire can become unmanageable in an instant (especially since fires are burning more severely than they used to). This unprecedented fire behavior is taking a toll on today's firefighters, and the group discusses mental health in the wildland fire community, including the rise in suicide rates and how firefighting is a less rewarding job than it once was. However, Kate notes that leaders and departments in the community are now acknowledging these issues and taking steps to help its members get support and treatment. And finally, Kate discusses her journey as a woman in the male-dominated world of firefighting and gives some advice for those interested in getting into this risky but valuable profession. The Finer Details of this Episode: Wildland firefighting roles and training Risks and tensions in the firefighting business The cycle of wildland fire and how teams respond Risk, the unexpected, and mental health issues Kate's experience as a woman in the firefighting world Quotes: “Imagine the sun is setting over the Pacific. It's a massive fire out there. It's a line almost a mile long of fire engines threading their way up the mountainside in the twilight and massive flames on the hill behind us, and it's like, oh, this is so for me. I'm doing it.” “When it comes down to the choice of prescribed fires or burnt homes, people will always say, ‘I'm not willing to take that risk.' And so, it's theoretical when we're talking about it legislatively, but when it gets to communities, and they feel like they're threatened, they want the firefighters there.” “They're out there for weeks at a time, repeatedly being deployed to large fires for lengthy periods of time, not able to get home, not able to rest. And I want to go back to the smoke environment that they're operating in. Like, they're not on assisted breathing. They're breathing difficult environment toxins for weeks at a time. It's a very real problem, and certainly diagnosed PTSD illnesses and suicide rates are way up in the wildland fire community.” “I think if you talk to a lot of women who succeed in male-oriented professions, a lot of them have a similar story. If you can make it through the first years and find your footing, you know, if you can survive those first few years of figuring it out, you probably develop a respect and a camaraderie with those others.” Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage: https://www.theadrenalinezone.com/ Kate on LinkedIn

On this episode of Adrenaline Zone, “Sandy” and Sandra welcome big wave surfer, Jamie Mitchell to the podcast to talk about his late start in surfing, the risk in big-wave surfing, and climate change. He opens up the episode by recalling his childhood growing up in Coffs Harbour in Australia and how he has been a fish out of water since he could remember - reading the ocean and its currents is almost second nature to him now. Although he surfed every once in a while as a child, he was predominantly a long distance paddle boarder; it wasn't until his mid 30's that he really found an affinity for surfing. Now after having much success in the industry and having traveled the world in search of the perfect swell, Mitchell is familiar with the risk associated with the sport. He's even had to take courses on breathing underwater and how to maintain composure under extreme duress. He notes that he's survived some of his accidents thanks to this preparation. The group go on to discuss Mitchell's philanthropic work partnering with Surfline and creating Seven Crossings to combat and raise awareness for climate change. Drawing this episode to a close, Winnefeld and Magnus ask about how he prepares to surf. His answer? Beyond checking his equipment, he doesn't really do anything special. After all, he knows that any attempts to create control in the face of Mother Nature are largely futile. The Finer Details of this Episode: Growing up in Coffs Harbour in Australia Jamie's late start surfing The risk in big wave surfing Chasing the perfect swell Paddleboard racing Partnering with Surfline Preparing to surf Quotes: “Australia's Jamie Mitchell is one of the small cadre of big-wave surfers who faces these risks routinely. Not only is he an amazing surfer, he is arguably the best long distance paddling competitor ever, having won that 32 mile Molokai to Oahu race 10 straight years.” “I've said it before, it's like running and jumping off a six story building, trying to hold your breath and then having a crocodile deathroll you under the water while you're trying to get to the surface. You know, I mean, like, it's like a car crash on the water.” “If I didn't have the knowledge of how to understand just taking sips of air, relax, I think I would have panicked and died. I really do.” “So it's just this really intense mental endurance race, and I thrive in those situations. I think I was born to be in those situations, you know, and I loved it. Once I started winning, I got addicted to it, and I just wanted to get to two. Then I wanted to get three.“ “It's interesting that it's half mental and half physical out in Hawaii, and you, like the ancient Islanders, you're reading tides, currents, and that. If you don't do that, well, that's your competitive edge, because most of the guys are in pretty good shape.” “I actually started a company with a friend of mine, Zach Porter, called Heavy Water Surf, and we're actually working with Surfline, creating more opportunities for big-wave surfing, you know. So that's all about to come to fruition in the next month or so.” “We just put out a six part webisode series on my YouTube channel that shows each day that we did it. I paddled five days. I paddled over 170 miles over five days. And yeah, we just tried to raise awareness for those guys.” “You don't get complacent, but you get comfortable in that space that you're in. And then I think once you're comfortable and you've got that experience, you can really excel at what that is that you put your mind to.” “There's something about the salt water and the ocean that is just very therapeutic. And even being 30 feet underwater in shark infested waters, there's something about it that's still therapeutic.” Links: The Adrenaline Zone Homepage Jamie Mitchell on Instagram Seven Crossings on Instagram

On this episode of The Adrenaline Zone, hosts James “Sandy” Winnefeld and Sandra Magnus are joined by Dr. Ralph Harvey of the Antarctic Search for Meteorites Program, and Dr. Fraser Goff, Volcanology and Geothermal Systems Expert.   Between them, Dr. Harvey and Dr. Fraser have seen some of the most dangerous places on the planet, albeit in very different ways. While Dr. Harvey spends weeks on end patrolling the desolate Antarctic landscape in search of Martian meteorites, Dr. Fraser takes expeditions into the mouths of active volcanoes, where molten rock and poisonous gasses from beneath the Earth's crust pose substantial dangers.   Although they face significantly different risks, their approaches to managing those risks are remarkably similar. Both men rely on a combination of well-crafted procedures, careful planning, proper equipment, and a trained team to help mitigate potential dangers. They've had their fair share of close calls, but each brush with danger is a chance to learn, and to go into the next venture better prepared.   These contrasting tales of fire and ice demonstrate some of the universal principles of risk management. No matter the situation, planning and preparedness are foundational to maintaining safety.   Dr. Ralph Harvey Schmidt Ocean Institute Dr. Fraser Goff Sandra Magnus Sandra Magnus - Twitter   This episode is sponsored by Dunkin'  If you enjoyed this episode of The Adrenaline Zone, hit the subscribe button so you never miss another thrilling conversation, and be sure to leave a review to help get the word out to fellow adrenaline junkies.