Podcast appearances and mentions of Michael Keane

Erie County District Attorney Mike Keane on additional charges being filed against Minhaz Siddiqui after an officer-involved shooting on May 26 full 1080 Thu, 18 Jun 2026 14:45:00 +0000 mRD0nKl3e6W61iKVTc07W2EJ0Uo4mkx1 buffalo,news,crime,wben,erie county district attorney's office,michael keane WBEN Extras buffalo,news,crime,wben,erie county district attorney's office,michael keane Erie County District Attorney Mike Keane on additional charges being filed against Minhaz Siddiqui after an officer-involved shooting on May 26 Archive of various reports and news events 2024 © 2021 Audacy, Inc.

Erie County DA Michael Keane on Derrick Harris full 663 Mon, 08 Jun 2026 21:40:02 +0000 n2mWwnvKED4WCET8edIIqj2w2gzpR5PF news WBEN Extras news Erie County DA Michael Keane on Derrick Harris Archive of various reports and news events 2024 © 2021 Audacy, Inc. News https://player.amperwavepodcasting.com?feed-link

Erie County DA Michael Keane on Monday's homicides full 22 Tue, 02 Jun 2026 21:55:34 +0000 LFzsawzYCmtPmWShjTuPHHLF0rQfuVlC news WBEN Extras news Erie County DA Michael Keane on Monday's homicides Archive of various reports and news events 2024 © 2021 Audacy, Inc. News https://player.amperwavepodcasting.com?feed-

In today's episode, host Ian Croll is joined by Tony Scott and Gav Buckland to dissect a pivotal week in Everton's season. As the campaign enters its final stretch, the stakes couldn't be higher for David Moyes' Blues. EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/efc Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee The lads dive into the newly released audio from the PGMOL regarding the controversial clash at the London Stadium against West Ham. We finally hear the explanation behind why Mateus Fernandes' apparent handball wasn't given as a penalty. Was it an accident? Was it a natural position? Or did Everton once again fall victim to a baffling VAR interpretation?  After a string of games where the Blues have looked uncharacteristically shaky at the back, the panel asks if it's time for David Moyes to experiment. The Jake O'Brien Question: With the Irishman impressing in a "hybrid" right-back role, is it time to move him to his natural center-back position? If O'Brien moves inside, who makes way? We debate whether Michael Keane's goal-scoring threat outweighs the defensive stability of James Tarkowski. With a massive game against Sunderland looming at the Hill Dickinson Stadium, the big team news revolves around Idrissa Gana Gueye. If the veteran is declared fit, does he go straight back into the starting 11 to provide that much-needed shield, or do the Blues stick with the current midfield balance? The Black Cats are coming to town, and the lads offer their score predictions and tactical blueprints for a must-win home fixture. To wrap things up with a bit of fun, the lads rank Premier League Kick-off Times. Watch, listen, and join the conversation in the comments below! Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit the notification bell to never miss an episode of Royal Blue. Get exclusive Everton FC content - including podcasts, live shows and videos - everyday.  Subscribe to the Royal Blue Everton FC YouTube Channel and watch daily live shows HERE: https://bit.ly/3aNfYav Listen and subscribe to the Royal Blue Podcast for all your latest Everton FC content via Apple and Spotify: APPLE: https://bit.ly/3HbiY1E SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/47xwdnY Visit the Liverpool ECHO website: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/all-about/everton-fc Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LivEchoEFC Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@royal.blue.everto Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolEchoEFC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Two leads, two lapses, and a major sense of "what if" at Selhurst Park. EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/efc Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee. In this episode of the Royal Blue podcast, Ian Croll is joined by Chris Beesley to dissect Everton's frustrating 2-2 draw against Crystal Palace. After James Tarkowski and Beto twice put the Toffees in front, David Moyes watched his side pegged back by Ismaïla Sarr and a late Jean-Philippe Mateta strike. We dive deep into the defensive fragility that saw Michael Keane's clearance fall short and the lack of clinical edge from Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall and Iliman Ndiaye that could have put the game to bed. In this episode, we ask, why can't Everton hold a lead? We look at the "poor sensing" at the back that cost us the full three points. Beto's Brilliance: A silver lining as the striker finds his scoring touch—is he now our most important attacking asset? The Table as it Stands: With the draw, Everton missed the chance to climb into 8th. We look at the standings and the mathematical reality of a top-seven finish.  Two Games to Go: Where does this leave the hunt for Europe? We preview the final run-in and ask if the dream is "drifting away" or if there's one last twist in the tale. #EFC #EvertonFC #DavidMoyes #EvertonStadium #HillDickinson #RoyalBlue Everton FC podcasts from the Liverpool ECHO's Royal Blue YouTube channel. Get exclusive Everton FC content - including podcasts, live shows and videos - everyday.  Subscribe to the Royal Blue Everton FC YouTube Channel and watch daily live shows HERE: https://bit.ly/3aNfYav Listen and subscribe to the Royal Blue Podcast for all your latest Everton FC content via Apple and Spotify: APPLE: https://bit.ly/3HbiY1E SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/47xwdnY Visit the Liverpool ECHO website: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/all-about/everton-fc Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LivEchoEFC Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@royal.blue.everto Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolEchoEFC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A massive new trailer for a highly anticipated historical epic has finally dropped, and while the scale looks breathtaking, the internet is already spiralling over one leading lady’s "stiff" performance. We unpack the "Blue Dot" phenomenon that is currently wreaking havoc on the music industry, forcing major global acts to scrap their tours at the eleventh hour. And finally, Cameron Diaz has shared surprise baby news, so deep diving into the unexpected meet-cute that led to the A-lister finding her fairytale ending in her forties.Love binge-watching TV? The Spill has launched a new podcast called Watch Party where we deep dive into the shows everyone’s talking about. Follow the feed on Apple or Spotify now. Plus remember The Spill drops the tea twice a day in this feed so follow us for all the latest entertainment news… OR you can WATCH our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and enjoy the watch! Link here. THE END BITS Find and follow us on socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thespillpodcast/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thespillpod Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thespillpodcast/ Read all the latest entertainment news on Mamamia: https://mamamia.com.au/entertainment/ Support Independent Women’s Media: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/ Your subscription helps us continue to tell the stories that matter to women. Want to join the conversation? Have feedback or a topic you want us to discuss? Send us a voice message or email us at thespill@mamamia.com.au and we’ll get back to you ASAP! Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Audio & Video Producer: Michael Kean Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast. From Mamma Mia. 00:01Speaker 2 Welcome to the Spill your daily pop culture fects. My name is manishaus Warren, producer of The Spell, but filling in today, and I'm joined by Pena provis And today We've got so much to get into. We're unpacking the blue dot phenomenon that's kind of destroying the music industry. Plus one of Hollywood's cutest couples has some exciting news, and we're bringing you on a bit of a walk down memory lane, a bit of a history lesson on how they met and fell in love. But first, a new trailer has dropped for a movie that I really couldn't be more excited about, and I think a lot of people feel the same way. Tina, Are you excited about the Odyssey? 00:36Speaker 3 I'm so excited because the cast looks insane and it just looks like it's going to be the biggest blockbuster. 00:43Speaker 2 Tell me where you remember my wife? As sorry, n. 00:51Speaker 1 Want more? 00:53Speaker 2 Help me go? 00:55Speaker 1 What do you do if he came back here and find all these shoots in his house. 00:59Speaker 2 Were plying you didn't even know? 01:02Speaker 1 Like I'm snaggling past looking after your wife, and so. 01:08Speaker 2 Do you see my dad is coming out when I watched it, I got a similar vibe to watching Dune, which I know you hadn't watched until recently. 01:20Speaker 1 I watched it now. 01:21Speaker 2 Yes, everyone, roll Across said, so, this is the first full length trailer that we've gotten the huge Christopher Nolan adaptation that's dropping in July. And it's based on the Odyssey, which is a classic Greek poem by Homer. It's one of the oldest surviving works of literature and one of the sort of foundational texts of Western literature. But there's been different variations along the way, like there's a retelling that's been done by Stephen Fry and now this big movie is coming out in July. How much do you know about the plot of the Odyssey. I don't know a lot about the plot. Okay, well I learned a lot about it today the trailer. I was like, I feel like I get a picture of what it is. So it's the story of Ody, who is the hero of this plot, and he is a legendary king of Ithaca and a war hero in Greek mythology, and he's trying to get back home after the Trojan War. 02:11Speaker 1 He's sort of like the original road Trip protagonist back home. 02:15Speaker 2 He's in a race against time to get home to his family, and the reason for that is basically because while he was away, a lot of new suitors have popped up who are trying to get with his wife, who's played by Anne Hathaway. 02:27Speaker 1 I love how you're describing it. Yeah, like, here's at a road troop. Everyone's trying to get with his wife. Think about it, Tina, It's a lot like LOI. 02:33Speaker 2 Yeah, the crazy way there's all these men, she's got to couple up with someone. She's got to get home before she couples up with someone else. And watching the trailer, it just really dawned on me how epic this is going to be, because, as you said, the cast is amazing. 02:46Speaker 1 It's that typical Christopher. 02:47Speaker 2 Nolan film where he loves to put a whole bunch of high profile people, even in the supporting roles, to really bring those to life. 02:54Speaker 1 Who are you most excited about in the cast? Liner Browert Patterson. Yeah, I'm just obsessed with him. 02:59Speaker 3 I feel like he's making such a comeback and I love seeing him back on our screens. And I'm excited for like the press run that they'll do because I just love him in all the interviews that he's been doing over the past year. 03:09Speaker 1 He also got a lot of airtime in the trailer. 03:12Speaker 3 Yeah, which I'm surprised because his character isn't the key lead, so I was surprised to see so. 03:17Speaker 1 Much of him in it. Yeah. 03:18Speaker 2 So he plays Antons, who's one of the main suitors who is competing for Penelope's affections, who's played by Anne Hathaway, And Yeah, I. 03:27Speaker 1 Just I thought I felt like I saw more of him than Matt Day. 03:29Speaker 3 Same same when I was kind of reading over like what had come out on the news, I was surprised, like and then getting a little bit of the gist of the plot, I actually thought. 03:37Speaker 1 Rob was going to be the lead. 03:39Speaker 2 Also, what to think of the kind of accent he was doing because he was giving Edward Collin. 03:43Speaker 1 Do you think it was a bit of a nix? I was like, is it a marriage? Do we just see him like that forever? He's just always going to be Edward Collin. 03:49Speaker 2 He can't break out of it. Zendaya is also in it. She plays Athena, but she wasn't in the trailer, but she's going to play the goddess of Wisdom and War who protects and guides Matt Damon on his journey home. I think the main thing I thought watching the trailer was they captured the urgency and the high stakes really well, like I was stressed. I was like, is he going to get back? Is he going to get back to his wife and son? They're going to be okay. So Tom Holland plays Telemachus, who is the son of the main character who's played by Matt Damon. So it'll be quite cute to see Tom Holland and Zendea both in this film. 04:20Speaker 1 I mean, what do you think of his name? 04:22Speaker 2 I think it sounds like a techno festival, but I just can't imagine someone saying that conversationally. 04:28Speaker 1 No, what's his nickname going to be? Telly? Kelly? Yeah, Kelly. 04:32Speaker 2 But he is also quite under threat in this because all the suitors who are going after his mum trying to get Penelope's affections just sort of kind of want him out of the picture. They want to clean slate to get in there enough. So of course the half of haters can't be stopped. So there's a scene of Anne Hathaway in the trailer and everyone's talking about this one second where she's doing really great acting. She's in the fields of it, but her facial expressions are rather which people are attributing to work being done. So there's just been a lot of common treas no one in Hollywood gets work done. I know, everyone's so unfairly mean to her. There's all these comments saying, you know, her eyebrows and her forehead aren't moving. They didn't have, you know, botox in twelve hundred BCE, so she's getting a little bit of flack for that. But it does look like she's going to be amazing in this movie, and she's having a huge year. So the movie is out July seventeenth. It's going to be a huge theatrical event. And if you want to watch the trailer, it looks visually stunning. So if you want to watch the full thing, there's a link to that in our show notes. 05:28Speaker 1 And yeah, just a few months to go. 05:30Speaker 3 So The Pussycat Dolls are the latest musical app to be struck down by Blue Dot Fever. Now I hadn't heard about this before, but it's basically like when you go on a ticket Master website and you have a look at like the seating map and all of the blue dots are all of the unsold seats. 05:46Speaker 1 So they've actually just had to cancel their tour. 05:49Speaker 3 They've come out with a statement saying that they've had to have a really honest look at the North American run and because of that, they've made the heartbreaking decision to cancel all the tour dates. Now, when I saw they announce their tour from Australia, I was excited for I was like, what a throwback. 06:03Speaker 1 I was excited too. 06:04Speaker 2 I just associate all their songs with you know when I grow up. Yes, like I'm eight years old and I'm like shaking my ass to this song that I don't appropriate. 06:14Speaker 3 Yeah, So it's really disappointing to hear that it has been called off. But they're not the only musical act in the past couple of weeks that have had to pause or you know, cancel their shows. So this follows post Malone. He's had to shift the dates to his tour. Megan Trainer has also canceled, and Zane Now, they all have various reasons for why they've had to cancel their top At the end of the day, they weren't really sold out, and the Pussycat Dolls are the only ones who've kind of acknowledged this. 06:42Speaker 1 In their statements. 06:43Speaker 3 But it really shows a little bit of a shift in how these concerts are coming to life and where people are choosing to spend their money. And it just seems like it's no longer viable to have these big stadium shows because these aren't like small acts. 06:56Speaker 2 These are like big headliners. They should be selling out these stadiums. Yeah, and it's interesting to see which of them acknowledge that as the reason that they're canceling and which don't, because I guess it is a bit of taking a piece of humble pie to be like, we're calling it off because we couldn't fill the seeds. 07:11Speaker 3 I've really making up some other reasons. And in China was like, I've got to look after my kid. I'm like, that's not a new thing. Yeah, you already had. 07:17Speaker 1 You the kid was there. You already had your kid. 07:19Speaker 2 And didn't post Malone say he needed to release more music. 07:22Speaker 1 He needs taking time. 07:23Speaker 3 See he's only shifted his by like three weeks. But I'm assuming that leg of the tour. I was just like, wasn't doing that well, so, I guess it's an interesting look at people's willingness when it comes to investing in these big shows and festivals and things like that, alongside these like surging ticket prices, like how many acts can you go to in one year? So your favorite artist is coming that year, are you going to be able to go to three shows? 07:48Speaker 1 Probably? Not, Like the cost of tickets is so expensive now. Yeah, And I don't know. 07:52Speaker 2 If you've sort of found this in your group chats and in your circles that it used to be someone's coming, when are we going? That was more the vibe, whereas I think now people are really realpliers. 08:02Speaker 1 It wants to go. 08:05Speaker 2 Yeah, but you just kind of now have to save that for when you know your top few favorite artists come, and you know, most people are only probably going to one or two a year totally. 08:16Speaker 3 And I guess in Australia we get so many less acts coming over because of the supply and demand and like the physical logistics to make it all the way over here, it just isn't viable to do those big stadium shows. So for us, when acts do come over, we're met with those really high costs. And again, yeah, for the group chat. No, not everybody can go. 08:36Speaker 1 You're just picturing. 08:37Speaker 2 When they're sitting around planning out their tour dates, they must be like do we do Australia? 08:40Speaker 1 Like it's just so far away? 08:42Speaker 2 And when you think about something like the Ears tour or those huge sets that they then have to transport everywhere, that's a huge cost for them. 08:49Speaker 3 So in Australia it really impacts how artists are touring locally. For a lot of those major international tours, you know, they are higher logistic costs involved, and you know when you come out of a concert you see those trucks outside they're packing up the stage. They're getting everything from production into those trucks and then going from Sydney to Melbourne and there's a huge cost involved. So they're often putting a lot of attention into the places that they're going to be able to quickly roll out when they're in Australia. So you can understand if you were going to add you know, an Adelaide and a Perth leg on top of Sydney and Melbourne, you would be driving, you'd be on the road for days. So it's not like in the States we can kind of pack up and like, do your shows. Australia has so much ground to cover, so it does make sense that, you know, they do focus their time on a Sydney or a Melbourne, but it's such a shame because so many other states and so many people are missing out. 09:42Speaker 2 I know, and the other states do really get up in arms about it, Like if you speak to someone from Perple, Britain during. 09:48Speaker 1 The ears to it, oh my god, because they have to factor in so much more to be able to come to something like that. Yeah, totally. 09:53Speaker 3 And there obviously are exceptions the rule of food fighters who have historically loved coming to Australia. You know, they've done one noto shows in Tasmania, they've done Geelong. 10:02Speaker 1 Before, but that is like not the noll. 10:04Speaker 2 I know. I was living in Melbourne when they did the Geelong tour and I still remember everyone being like, oh, I'm going to the few Fighters this weekend hour and a half drive there. 10:11Speaker 1 I was like what, Yeah, where are they doing it? And there are obviously acts. 10:15Speaker 3 That come over, like Bad Bunny came over and he did two Sydney shows and they were obviously massive sellout shows, but because he was only in Sydney. You've obviously got people flying in from all over the country just in order to be there and see him. So it's kind of the people at the top. You know, you have Taylor Swift, people are fighting for those tickets, like there are like hundreds of thousands of people waiting in a queue to buy those tickets when she announces a tour. But there's like that middle ground where your acts, like the Pussycat Dolls are just like not able to get it across the line anymore. 10:45Speaker 2 I know. It is interesting to think about because when we were initially chatting about them, we were both like, Oh, it's so exciting that they're coming here. And then you were like, would you actually get a ticket to go and see the pussy Cat Dolls, And. 10:55Speaker 1 I was like, I don't know. 10:56Speaker 2 I do like some of their old songs, but also the reunion isn't all of the area original members as well? 11:01Speaker 1 I believe it's three of the original band, and isn't there like twenty four of them? Yeah? True, they can't get them all. Yeah, it goes on tour. 11:08Speaker 3 I don't know if I would actually be putting money into seeing the Pussycat Dolls. 11:11Speaker 2 I know, it is sort of the girl math of you know, do I put it into this year's budget even though it's so far away. And I think the problem is these days, the cost of living is so high, so you're really focusing what you can spend on a few key performers that maybe you're really passionate about. And we sort of saw the knock on effect of someone like Adele coming to Australia a while ago, and how people are such big fans of hers that they spent so much money didn't they on going to their concerts. 11:36Speaker 1 Which left less for other smaller artists coming. Yeah. 11:38Speaker 3 So she last toured Australia in twenty seventeen, and she notoriously hates flying. So I think a lot of people knew like, if we're going to see Adele, this is going to be when we see her. She played in Perth, Brisbane, Sydney, Adelaide and Melbourne. She sold over six hundred thousand tickets, so it doesn't really free up much like disposable income for other artists who may be touring in that time. Yeah, you've really either got to be in that a group category where your fans are so hardcore but also so widespread, like you have such wide appeal or it's really hard to make a dent at the moment. 12:08Speaker 2 And I think we see that in a lot of like Australian festivals as well, like we've lost so many we lost falls festivals, splendor in the Grass and like I think you and I were having a conversation earlier about like that's how we found so many artists. 12:19Speaker 1 Like smaller artists, and. 12:20Speaker 3 That's where you would first like get a taste of them before they get big enough. 12:24Speaker 1 To sell their own stadium shows. 12:25Speaker 2 Yes, I remember seeing Billie Eilish at twenty eighteen. 12:29Speaker 1 She's crazy, even the move which is really now. She headlined groove in Them. 12:33Speaker 2 I believe it was twenty nineteen, which doesn't even feel that long ago, and it is. I know, it really is a bad reality, but it's crazy to think now there are so few of those platforms that people can make that real headway in terms of gathering fans and getting momentum going that it is hard to imagine someone now going from a festival stage two sold out stadium tours, even though I'm sure it will happen on occasion. 12:55Speaker 3 That actually reminds me of when I saw Taylor Swift and she had Sabrina Carpter as her supporting artists. Now, at this time, I actually didn't know a whole lot about Saprina Carpenter and actually rained so much on the night we went, so we didn't see the opening act and I didn't actually think twice about it because I hadn't really known much about her. And then Taylor actually ended up bringing her out later and they did a song together. It was really cute, and then lo and behold six months later, she's one of the biggest names in the music industry. 13:22Speaker 1 That's one of the few. 13:22Speaker 2 Inns we have left, Like one of the biggest artists in a world has to give a formal introduction from world Yeah, to put you on the map. 13:29Speaker 1 It's hard to see the impact on the music industry. 13:31Speaker 3 And I am such a big advocate for like live music and gigs, like I'm still out here shelling. 13:36Speaker 1 Out my Dallas. So I just think it'd be really. 13:39Speaker 3 Great if you know, it's hard out here and maybe you don't have money for like those bigger ticket acts, but there are so many more smaller artists, you know in Australia who were touring and it's live music. 13:49Speaker 1 Let's get out there and go see them. 13:51Speaker 2 Guys, and you can save money pre at home and then you know, have a really good night out of it. It's so much expensive than going to the stadium two a half the time. Ok So earlier this week there were some exciting baby news from one of the biggest stars. Cameron Diaz Her and Benji Madden announced on Instagram that they've welcomed their third child, Nortus. 14:10Speaker 1 Madden thoughts on the name, I don't know about that one. 14:14Speaker 2 It feels a little ship themes like nautical, doesn't it it does they already have they should be in the Odyssey. 14:21Speaker 1 Maybe this is how they're out there. 14:22Speaker 2 So they already have a six year old daughter called Radix and a two year old son called Cardinal. 14:28Speaker 1 So oh, I think there's not even really a theme. No, I think the theme is out there. Maybe. Well they're nailing that. 14:36Speaker 2 So in their Instagram caption they said, well, actually, Benji post it and said Cameron and I are happy, excited and feeling so blessed. Blessed is in capitals to announce the birth of our third child, Naughtous Madden. Welcome to the world, son and Cameron is fifty three years old, and she's spoken before about sort of her long journey to motherhood and feeling super lucky to be able to become a mum later in life. So I think the blessed in capital letters just look a little bit of a nod to that. But it did make me go on a bit of a journey down memory lane because I don't know about you, but I didn't actually know a lot about Cameron and met you. 15:11Speaker 1 No, So I'm ready for this deep dive. I'm ready to learn. 15:13Speaker 2 Yeah, it turns out they had quite a cute little meet you, which I'm going to tell you all about. But before Cameron met Benji, she had a little bit of a type when it came to who she was dating. So she definitely loved her Hollywood bad boys and pop stars. 15:28Speaker 1 So fair So do you think can why not? I mean, we'd all love it if the option was presented to us. 15:34Speaker 2 So from nineteen ninety six to nineteen ninety eight, she dated Matt Dillon. They were co stars together in There Something About Mary, and apparently they broke up. 15:43Speaker 1 Because of long distance. He was in New York, she. 15:45Speaker 2 Was in La Then a couple years later, she was with Jared Leto for about four years. There was a rumored engagement, and then that didn't work out, apparently because you know, both very busy careers, scheduling conflicts. 15:57Speaker 1 He's got to focus on thirty seconds commas. He's working on himself. He's working on himself. You know, we all we've all heard that light. 16:05Speaker 2 Then of course she was with Justin Timberlake as well in the early two thousands. That was really high profile and it ended amid cheating rumors from a Playboy bunny. 16:14Speaker 1 So oh, a bit of a scandal there. 16:16Speaker 2 There was a former Playboy model called Zoe Gregory and she was out there claiming her and Justin Timberlake had a fling while he was dating Cameron and that they quote unquote fooled around at the Playboy mansion. 16:26Speaker 1 Interesting, maybe it was the world tour. This is going to ruin the door. 16:31Speaker 2 So she had this real pattern of high profile actors and musicians and these quite intense public relationships that then didn't work out, which I think makes it all the sweeter when it does work out right in the end. So getting to her and Benji, they met in May twenty fourteen at Well I think inflicting reports of a dinner party or a house party. But it was a gathering of sorts that Cameron was hosting, and they met via Nicole Ritchie, who is Benji's sister in law. She's married to his twin, Joel Madden, and so they were invited to this party, and I guess he was invited by association. They actually hadn't met before, despite running in quite stiless me cute, I know, I love her, meet cute, And what Cameron has said about it is she said, well, firstly, speaking about whether or not Nicole Ritchie specifically set them up, she said, I met them first, them being Nicole and Joel, and they didn't set us up, but we were in the same room because of them, and then we found each other. But Nicole Ritchie is taking credit for setting them up, because she told Andy Cohen on Watch What Happens Live this was right after they met. I'm going to take responsibility for everything I approve of anything that's going to make Benji happy. 17:35Speaker 3 She's probably working behind the scenes to make it happen. Cameron didn't even know. 17:39Speaker 2 I know. And also, if I'm even in the room where a couple meets and then they hit it off. 17:43Speaker 1 I'm taking responsibility for this as you should. Yeah, if I made that invite happen. 17:47Speaker 2 So in terms of first impressions, Cameron said she recalled her first reaction to seeing Benji at the party as he's hot and I was surprised that they hadn't cross paths sooner, and basically very much like you know you're the one. 17:58Speaker 1 They obviously hit it off the beginning. We're all about each other. 18:02Speaker 2 They started dating in secret over that summer in twenty fourteen, and then they went public after these yacht vacation photos were leaked, and that's how everyone found out about it. I mean that that's how you want people to find out, right, Yeah on a yacht, Like imagine all your other exes. You're like, well, I'm on a yacht now with this guy. 18:17Speaker 1 So yeah. 18:17Speaker 2 Snucky and one of Benji's friends sort of spoke to the press and was like, Benji always falls in love easily, but this time it's for real. They make each other incredibly happy. 18:27Speaker 1 Which I thought. 18:28Speaker 2 I think if I was getting my friend to the press, I don't know, if he signed off with this, I'd be like, could you drop the always falls in love easily. 18:34Speaker 1 Bit I'd feel like, why did you add that? Who says that? Who is the source? Like this one's real. They're like, we're not friends anymore. 18:39Speaker 2 Yeah. So later that year, Benji spoke to people about it and he confirmed the relationship and he talked about how much being with Cameron was impacting his music and he was feeling so driven and they had this whole whirlwind romance throughout that year, and then after just seven months they got engaged. 18:53Speaker 1 My god, that's fuss well they say, like when you're older. Yeah, that's so fair. I love that for them. 18:59Speaker 2 You and then planned the wedding insanely fast. So they got engaged December twenty fourteen and then had the wedding January twenty fifteen. 19:07Speaker 1 Oh my god, that's a quick turnaround for a wedding. I know, I don't know how they pulled it together. 19:10Speaker 2 I mean they did throw it at they had some help, probably probably, yeah, probably. 19:14Speaker 1 A forty plant. Yeah. 19:16Speaker 2 So they had a very intimate wedding, was a backyard wedding at their house in Beverly Hills. I mean, I imagine it's not a little shack. It's probably yeah, I don't think Sotly probably got some space and Drew Barrymore was there in Gwyneth Paltrow and they got married in this giant backyard tent with all these beautiful flowers and candles, and then all sounded amazing. 19:34Speaker 1 But I think what's really lovely about them. 19:36Speaker 2 Is obviously they've been married now for about eleven years, but they've said really cute things about each other along the way. I don't know if you've ever seen any of the quotes where they talk about each other. 19:45Speaker 1 What do they say? So I hope they're saying nice things about each other. They're just airing what they find out. 19:51Speaker 2 So in twenty seventeen, so this is like a few years after Cameron gave this interview where she sort of explained why she waited until she was forty two. 19:58Speaker 1 To get married, and I thought, what a big she said? That was cute? 20:00Speaker 2 Was I think it's a matter of I just hadn't met my husband. I had boyfriends before, and there's a really really distinct difference between husbands and boyfriends. What do you think about, Teach, she's real for that. She gives me hope because I'm probably gonna be single time like forty, you're like, I'm currently seeing the boyfriends. I need to see the husband. Bring me the husband. And then She is also gushed about him on a few podcasts, even recently, like you Know twenty twenty one onwards, saying when I saw him from the get go, I knew he was special. 20:26Speaker 1 I was like, you're the guy, You're the hidden gem in my life. 20:28Speaker 2 Oh. 20:29Speaker 3 I love like share this insight into it because you just remember, like they're real people and there's like this real love between them. 20:35Speaker 2 I know. And as much as we all talk about, oh, it's so nice when you just meet someone and it's a slow burn, I think it's really cute when they. 20:41Speaker 1 Actually are saying it's love at first sight. 20:43Speaker 3 I know. And I feel like we hear so much about like the breakups and like the scandal, so it is nice to like hear like the success stories. 20:49Speaker 1 Worked out as aspirational. 20:51Speaker 2 She's also talked a lot about how Benji was the first person to really teach her to value herself and before that she just felt like she was always seeking validation in her partners. That she said, Oh my god, imagine being Cameron Diaz and you're seeking validation. 21:03Speaker 1 Oh, my god. 21:04Speaker 2 This is exactly how I felt when we covered on the podcast how Meryl Streep talked about, you know, feeling it'scure with roles and things like that, and hearing Cameron Diaz saying like, you know, not valuing herself. 21:13Speaker 3 You're like, so everyone's the second. Oh my god, I know, I cannot imagine that. I'm like, surely you're like the most confident person in the world. 21:19Speaker 1 I know you would think. I mean, you're a Charlie's Angel. I think some other cute fun things about them. Is they actually got I don't know. 21:25Speaker 2 Actually, I don't know if this is cutter if I disapprove of this, but I guess in their situation, it's cute. They got matching tattoos on their wedding day. Oh I don't mind that. 21:32Speaker 1 You don't mind that. 21:33Speaker 2 I mean, you're already starting a legally binding contract. 21:36Speaker 1 Is it a fun tattoo? 21:37Speaker 2 Cameron got Benji's name and Hebrew on her finger, and he got the same. I don't know if name I would like like maybe like something fun. I'd like something I could repurpose if it didn't work out, Like, oh, I got this turtle, not because it's our favorite animal. But I don't know if like turtle wedding day works, but like maybe we can workshop that with your wedding. 21:53Speaker 1 Just get apart. That can apply no matter what happens. 21:56Speaker 2 I think it's also cute how they're both talking about how they ran in the same celebrities circles for years, but they never crossed paths until Nicole Richie brought Benji to that event. 22:05Speaker 1 So I'm surprised by that. I know Cameron was too. 22:08Speaker 2 She said, how come I never saw this guy before. 22:10Speaker 1 It's kind of one of those things. 22:11Speaker 2 Where it feels like the universe waits till you're ready. Because if she met him when she was with Justin Timberlay, exactly why would we be Maybe she was manifested, is exactly ready. They're both really private as well, so they don't put out any photos of their kids. They've actually sued paparazzi before over releasing pics of Radix. I keep wanting to say Radish, but it's Radis, he says. 22:34Speaker 1 Child. 22:35Speaker 2 And after they sort of got together and settled down and had a family, Cameron went on quite a career pause. So in twenty eighteen, she quit acting to focus on the family. 22:44Speaker 1 She was quite open about it. 22:46Speaker 2 She said she was retiring, taking a step back, focusing on her marriage and kids, and she actually launched a wine brand. 22:51Speaker 1 In that time. 22:51Speaker 2 In twenty twenty, she released Avaline, her wine brand. Apparently he was very supportive in that process. And then now, obviously she has had a bit of a return to acting because in the life last couple of years she was in the Netflix film Back to Action with Jamie Fox that came out last year, and now she's filming a romantic comedy directed by Stephen Merchant, which we don't know. 23:08Speaker 1 The title of You I Love. That should be great, I know, So she's getting back into the swing of things. 23:13Speaker 2 But I think for that period had, you know, a lot of focus on family because they had their first kid twenty nineteen, and then they've now got a two year old and now the new baby. So yeah, that is a little bit of a you know, walk down memory lane history lesson on. I think one of Hollywood's cutest couples, but weirdly under the radar, like I knew nothing about their whole love story. 23:29Speaker 1 Maybe I was just living under a rock. So cute. I hope that kind of love finds me. 23:34Speaker 3 Thanks so much for listening to the Spill today, and if you want to watch as well as listen, you can now watch us on Apple Podcasts. Just make sure that your iPhone is up to date and switch over to video to see our beautiful faces, or head on over to the YouTube channel to catch more of our video content, including celeb interviews. 23:51Speaker 1 The Spill is produced. 23:52Speaker 2 By Minishi Izworn with video production by Michael Keane. 23:55Speaker 1 We'll see you next time. Bye bye, Lana.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We’re diving into the 2026 Met Gala red carpet, where the fashion was only half the story. From surprise arrivals to late entrances that completely shifted the night’s energy, this year’s event delivered more chaos than ever. We break down the biggest fashion moments, including Beyoncé’s long-awaited return, Rihanna’s headline-making late arrival, and Blake Lively’s unexpected red carpet comeback just hours after major legal news broke. Plus, the standout looks, the most debated outfits, and the celebrity “power moves” that turned the Met Gala into one of the most talked-about nights of the year. Love binge-watching TV? The Spill has launched a new podcast called Watch Party where we deep dive into the shows everyone’s talking about. Follow the feed on Apple or Spotify now. 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Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Audio & Video Producer: Michael Kean Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop culture fixed. I'm Laura Brednick, and I'm Free Player, executive producer of Mamma MIA's interview podcast No Filter, and former fashion magazine editor. Yes, you're always my partner in crime for these red carpet episodes in dcause we both have hot takes. They're usually very different we do. We often have very like opposing ideas. Yes, what was best, what was worse? And we've been avoiding each other in the office all day. Yeah, we had to yell at each other get away from me because we didn't want to. We didn't want to have a donation. Don't even look at it. You can look at me. We didn't want to have the conversation away from the mic. So if you are listening to this, it means you probably listen to our Met Gala little teaser that dropped in the feed earlier today, because we're dropping this episode a little bit later. Because with the Met car there's so many dresses and there's so many interviews, and then celebrities release their own like look books and updates afterwards. So we needed to bring the people boots on the ground. Journalism with all the looks. So that's why we're coming to you today with our special slightly later episode. Now before we jump into the best, worst, most disastrous, most surprising, most sentimental looks of the day, it's a broad, broad range of looks we're getting into. If you want to see the looks, if you want to actually have the photos in front of you, you can go and listen to us on Apple Podcasts where we're on videos, so you can watch us delightful, watch my face get veteran, veteran rhetoric as I get more excited and overwhelmed. Or you can go and look at all the photos in a gallery on Instagram. So just search the Spill podcast on Instagram. The gallery will be clearly labeled in order of how we're speaking about the looks, so you can follow along and see them all there. Okay, without further ad you, well, our first look is kind of a shared one because we want to just start things off with a bang, and that is Miss Beyonce, who came to the Met Gala for the first time. It was it ten years in over a decade. It's just like so exciting to see her back on the Met Gala. Red carpet, which of course is not red. Let's let's start off by saying, give there a carpet. I love the carpet non red. Okay, this might be the only thing. This might be the thing weiss best dressed to the night is the carpet. I loved it. I did a little moss between Yeah. Yeah, they looked like it was like fake but beautifully done. Yeah, very artistic. Really, and let's bring this to the forefront as well. The theme for this U's met Gala is about fashion being art Yes, so costume costume. So what we get to see is not only like the setting, which is why it's not just your standard red carpet being very artistic and very creative. Is the clothes then on it? And I thought, yeah, the way that it looked this time, it was kind of like it's like a beigey sort of cobblestony, Yes, cobblestony, with like the moss between it. And they had all the beautiful kind of draping again coming down the ceiling. It was creamy it was, and greens and purple it was. It was beautiful, which I thought was such a beautiful backdrop to put all the clothes on as well. Yeah, because sometimes the stairs look lovely, but once you get a dress on them, they cancel each other out. Yeah, like remember the pink here the camp Yeah nine much like it was gorgeous, but then some outfits just didn't work. Yeah, no, no, And that's why celebs are releasing their own They're having their own photo shoots first and releasing them because they're like, I can't trust the lighting and any red carpet, but especially the met gala. Can't trust the lighting, can't trust the background. So okay, and that's the thing. As everyone took their photo, that was the bit where the steps before they became green, they were in that beautiful cream color, which is not a nice backdrop for all the dresses. So we had Beyonce rock up has it been there in ten years? And she was wearing a diamond encrusted dress that looked like a skeleton, so it had like the rib cage and like the pelvis and her hands were skeleton kind of a vibe. And I guess that's to show like the body in its like most like basic form a skeleton, a skeleton. And that's what part of the theme was, was showing the body as well, and the body being kind of the basis for art, so as you say, skeleton is the body stripped back to its most basic form. But I mean, of course, because it's Beyonce. It's jewel encrusted and it's incredible. And then she wore this long feathered cake. Yeah, incredible, that dreaped and then the head piece as well. I mean it's Beyonce, She's always going to bring the dru Yeah. Some people are like, oh, she could have lost the head piece and it's like, no, no, the head piece and it was Olivia Rousting, wasn't it. He used to be from Balmain, who's like she's worked with him before. Yes, she's won a lot of Almaine over the years, so yeah, it wasn't surprising that that's who dressed it. I felt, yes, but I think she looked glorious and I loved that she showed up with her gorgeous, gorgeous best accessory, her daughter. Yes, it was a night for daughters. Yes, Nicole kim And was toting one of her daughters down the red carpet and then Beyonce did it. But Blue Ivy, her oldest daughter who's fourteen now, and I think she actually looked like appropriately dressed for fourteen year olds. I do too. There was a lot anund the office. It's about you know, her being on the on the carpet anyway, and at this event, and you know, these experiences that these really young girls are getting to have. But I thought she I agree, I thought she looked age appropriate and so so gorgeousful so much like her mother. Yeah, that was such a moment because the Beyonce floated up and everyone gass and then Blue Ivy floated behind her, and then they had their moment, and they had their moment together, and then jay Z ran up and and then he was in there and but then they obviously I actually feel like as a family they practiced in the mirror at home because when they got into their first formation for their first photo, they just all I did. Yeah, they just instantly got into the right places and held a pose. And I was like, well, you guys have been practicing that the family living room. Yeah, and I appreciate that level of And Beyonce is a co chair this year. What's interesting is the timing of Beyonces arrived. Yes, if you'll notice all the other co chairs arrived at the top of the top of the day, which is kind of usually, which is how it goes, because they meant to greet people as they come in. Yes, that's part of it. They meant to greet people as they come in. Beyonce has ascended above that level where she is not a greeter. No, they had She's up stairs and being like, hik so much for coming to our party, thanks for coming for a little shin dig Like, no, Beyonce is not doing that. Her arrival was such a moment. It really was. Okay, who else did you go? Because we get week spend an hour on everyone fifty looks to get through. Okay, I'm going to start strut with my favorite of the whole night, and you won't be surprised by this, I don't think. Okay. My favorite was Oh, Sabrina Carpenter. Yes, Sabrina was in Dior. She's been wearing a lot of Dior lately. Jonathan Anderson, who was at Louerva, is now in the House of Dior and doing the most incredible job. Because there has been like quite a shuffle in the last couple of years in the design houses, where like there were designers in certain houses that felt a little bit mislike. Now, I'm not saying he was amazing at Louerva. He did a great job there, but I do feel like what he is doing at Dior is what should be happening at Dior. So I was very excited for this year's met Gala because I feel like after years of kind of the wrong creative directors being in the houses that I felt maybe were they weren't aligned to, or that there were people in those roles that maybe weren't doing the best job interesting for those houses, the dust is settled, and I feel like this is the first time in a few years where the right designers are in the right house the levels. It's like the right house Game of Thrones. It has been a bit of a fashion game of Thrones in the last couple of years. So anyway, I was excited to see I thought Sabrina would wear deal because she's been wearing so much of it lately and she is somewhat like aligned with the house as well. But I was very excited to see what she's wearing now. The gown she's wearing is made of film strips, and the film is of course Sabrina, but the Audrey Hetburn Sabrina. Yes, here's an upsetting fact about me is that Sabrina is one of my favorite movies. But you like the well do you know what? You know what? Okay, but that is usually trees in. It's because obviously, if anyone hasn't seen the Audrey Hepburn movie Sabrina, watch it. It's incredible. But I personally prefer the Julia ormand Harrison Ford Sabrina, which I know is film blasting, you know what, it might be film blasphemy, but I think there's a place for both of them. But it's a place they're both exquisite felt exactly. But I just when I saw the detailing that it was film stills from Sabrina, I nearly lost my mind. That's the most beautiful touch. It's so beautiful. And I love that Sabrina went as Sabrina, but as Sabrina but in this like majorly artistic iteration. Also, and because I am such a swifty fan girl, I'm gonna just say that she's gone a bit show girl this year. And of course she features on Little Maybe with the head Piece a little not to her mentor, but also she features on Life of a show the track title from the album. So look, I'm not saying, oh, you think it's like, well, look, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. It was like a nice little thing. But you're saying it's like shot fired. No no, no, God, no, no, no, we start no Brina and Taylor fe on. I'm not saying that Sabrina's outfit is for like an Easter egg, that this is coming with Taylor's sweet I'm not saying that. But I'm not not saying that the video clips. I'm just you know, last year, Sabrina on the met Gala carpet looked very pop star. This year she looks very showgirl. That's all I'm saying. That's all you're saying. That's all I'm saying. And you can, guys can read into that what you will, what you will. All Right. My next one, it's not a favorite, but it's just one we must discuss. Well, it's kind of a favorite because I appreciate how much this woman takes this seriously, puts her life in the lives of other people on the line, and how much she sticks to the theme. And that is Miss Kimberly Noel Kardashian did you not like it? No? Okay, well let me tell you a backstory maybe then you will. So she worked with British pop artist Alan Jones and Patrick Whittaker on this piece. So it's a golden breastplate for anyone who needs is listening to this just as a podcast, no judgment. It's a golden breastplate. But it has like the high silhouette neck and the cone bra, so we've got a real pointing nipple happening, very sculpted abs and a belly button. And it was craft did from a model in the sixties, which I thought was interesting because she said at first they were thinking like, would they do a mold of her body, which out of everyone, she kind of could have gotten away with because her body is like her cooling cart, and that's why she once walked the red carpet with her face covered because you can just see her body, you know it's her. But they decided to get the body model of a sixties model, and then it was this is the only disappointing thing is that the original look was going to be a full on sculptured suit all the way down, and so they've taken like the legs and the bottom half off and have done that detachable skirt, which is fine, but I feel like it does kind of take away from I would have loved to see her walk down in a fully sculptured suit, like a very old school robotic kind of like end of the World's sci fi vibes. So that's my problem with Oh, that's your problem. That is actually that is actually my problem with it. I think from the waist up absolutely incredible, Yes, And I just wish that it had committed the whole way. It's like she got no I mean I think no, I she didn't get nervous Kim Cush, she doesn't get nervous about I actually wanted her to make more. I think she's one of the few people who because she is always dressed so high fashion, she is not afraid to not be like the prettiest on the night, but be the most headline making And I usually like that about it exactly, and particularly with the met Gala, She's not. There are years where she does not prioritize pretty or sexy. She prioritizes creating a moment. Yeah. I wouldn't even necessarily say she prioritizes the fashion. Yeah, because I feel like it's more moment led with her exactly. Actually it's a headline interest in fashion, and we like that. But that's what she does, and she does it so well. I don't think she did it this year. Yeah, I appreciate the thought behind it. If you go to her Instagram, she's done a huge behind the scenes, like almost her own magazine photo editorial spread to explain the look. And when you see all that and you read it, it makes more sense. But I do wish maybe she'd just gone with the full look, but also the top part, the bones and the bra and everything was finished in autobody shop. So some men who work on cars hameadat and I love that. And I hope they know it's at the met Gala. They would have loved that. Okay, who's your next person? I am going to talk about Tana Taylor? Oh my god? Yes, I had her on my list, Yes, of course. Okay, so there we go. I feel like we're actually aligned on quite a few. Yeah. Yeah, spen too early to tell you now. I love it. It's like crazy. My first thought was she looked like she was like high fashion escapee from Whoville. Yeah, but it's incredible. It's like for anyone listening, of course, it's like silver fringing that is from the hood right down to a train and like it's long sleeve. She was really feeling it. She was swishing, swishing, swishing, and she was taking the shots. I'm glad you brought that up because obviously we had the met gala up in the office here and there's about fifty people gathered around it watching every second. And when she was swishing her head around, Everyone's like, oh, no, she can't see she's getting annoyed by it. And I was like, no, no, guys, she's showing the move No, she's showing the movement. And she's doing a photos wanting to get photos that show it from like every angle. And when something is artistic in the way that it moves, you've got to really show it on the carpet, which she did. So this was tom Ford incredible. I just felt like it was such a moment. It was also I felt a bit of a fresh air after a lot of different other looks at after her big Red Carpet run when she was OSCAR nominated. Yeah, same material on her oscars. I mean, to the naked eye, the same sort of material on the train of her Oscars dress. But it's almost like her Oscars dress has morphed into this like beast and is now running free. That's why I thought when I saw it. Okay, moving on to someone who a lot of people are slamming her and putting her on worst dress. Look, because I'm not so much defending her. I just want to explain. And it's Margot Robbie in Chanel. Did you hate this? No? I don't hate it, Okayel, No, I would never know. No, I would never speak about my close personal fo Margo Robbie that way. I know you guys are pals. We are pals. I mean, for anyone listening, We're not actually pals. I've just hung out with her like two or three times. She would not remember me, but I refer to her as my close personal sofa, so I you know she. I mean, look, Margo can't not look stunning. She's so beautiful. The dress is very pretty. I feel like that would have been very pretty on any other red car, But I'm just not excited by it today. Hear the thing about her? I think also, I love every like everyone just like I mean, I know you've get it more thought than that. But everyone I'm seeing on in like Instagram and TikTok scrolling past this dress and going oh ugly and moving on. I was like, this took the Chanelle team seven hundred and sixty one hours to make, and everyone's just like, yuck, we hate it. But it's almost like a champagne gold strapless gown with this beautiful detail at the back. She also hasn't been to the Met Gala since twenty twenty three, so she doesn't go every year. But what I loved about this is that everyone's always expecting Margo Robbie to go really over the top of the Met Gala. But first and foremost, she is a businesswoman. I would say she's a businesswoman. She's a movie star girl right down the end, and she turns on the fashion in a huge way for her red carpets because one, she's the star of the show, but also she's marketing the movie. I mean, no one does red carpet promotion better than exactly no one does it better than her. And when she's at the Met Gala, she's not there to promote anything. She's not even promoting herself because she doesn't need to. She turns it on for a red carpet movie premiere because that's from usually from her production company, so that money is coming back to her in a good way. Like that's what she's there for. When she's at the met Gala, she's often just there to look pretty or and like comfortable as well, like she never wears. You never hear of Margot Robbie starving herself for six days wearing a corset lined with spikes, like you know, to help her up the stairs. No one ever helps her up the stairs. No one's looking at that saying, oh my gosh, how did she go to the bathroom there? Yeah, she's put loosing fancy, she said time. She's often, I think getting paid by the house, getting paid by the brand to be an ambassador, so she's still making money while she's there. But so many times I've seen these women, like on the red carpet the Met Gala, like feathers trains crazy, which we love, but like not being able to move, not being able to go to the bathroom for ten hours, having to be carried up the stairs, and in the background of the met Gala, you just always see Margot Robbie bound up the stairs looking happy. You know she's going straight to get a champagne because she can, because she's not there to make a spectacle of herself, because she does that for her movies. And I actually think that's a lovely way to be. And if I actually had a choice, I think I would. I would roll like that the way you don't want to go relaxed Australian. Yeah, it's like, you know, the nights that are about me, It's about me, the met Gala, it's about me. So you feel like off the back of the very like stylized Wuthering Heights rum. She just wanted to do something that was just be She was like, Chanell, you tell me what you want me to wear and pay me that feet and I will put that dress on and as long as I can move and it's all approved by Anna and whoever, I don't care, it's not my I think. Her vibe was like, it's none of my it's none of my business what I wear. And I love that for her. Okay, who else do you have? You know? What is it? Time? Can I talk? Oh my god? Can I tell you about the boys? Yeah? Yeah, please please talk about it, please hear it for the book. Okay, I am going to go you know what, I'm gonna surprise you and go straight for somber. Oh okay, okay in Valentino, like I does like that person, this detail, It is stunning. I would love to wear that. It is just so glorious. It's because Share was there, but he looks more share, more share than Share. Oh my god, I wish Share had worn this. Well, they could have done a double act. I would have actually been so here for that. So it's like pants on the waist with full beating around the waistband, longline beating down the full length of the pants. Then we've got like a silk and laced blouse that's high neck, and then the most incredible cape that just brings it all together with just the crystals just flowing down it. This is Valentino my favorite because I love Alessandro Magula formerly of Gucci. Now he is responsible for my favorite meal look of all time, which was in eighteen was The Heavenly Bodies the Catholic Church. Oh yes, yes, okay, so a beautiful confusing time for the beautiful confusing time for everyone. But the best met Gala oh, absolute, literally ever and my favorite was Lama del Rey, Jared Leto and Alessandra mccallay, Yes, showing up together in that like ensemble. I mean, it was just incredible. I don't think anyone has ever reached that since I don't think anyone will, but so I always look forward to what you know, and Alessandro is going to bring to the Red Carpet with ary designs and I was really excited to see that this year on Somber. I thought it looked exquisite. Okay, we love the boys, we love the boys they put Efor in. All Right, while we're talking about boys, let's talk about our hated rivalry. Gorgeous boys, Connor Story and Hudson Williams, because both of them rocked up to the Red Carpet this year. Now, I love that they're there, the meteoric rise of these guys and the show is just being so incredible that they're everywhere. They were all over Award season, they are now on the met Gala carpet. But were you disappointed they didn't actually walk down together? I mean, would you think it would have been too much? No? I mean they're not they're not promoing their show right now, they could have just done the girls and the people saying, you know what, they will, We'll get something out of the day. There'll be something, so you know, they they know where their breast. But that's what I just saw, everyone just like hunting through the images and through the videos desperate to find like a moment that they were together, or they'll get one and it might be it might be at the after party, but we'll get one, don't you worry. So Hudson was in Balenciaga and it was like super super super detailed. Have you had a good look at it? Let me let me. I'm gonna be so honest that I was just looking at their faces. Yeah, show me the outfit. You're like, whatever, what are they? Those men to high had Okay, and that's totally that's totally fine, and I had I had a good crack at that too. But Hudson's eye maker was much talked about in the office. It was kind of a big Euphoria esque with the with the eye makeup, but it looks Euphoria Season one back when the I makeup was fantastic. So in like a powder blue suit and there's like black detailing beaded and then this kind of cap skirt s He's got a train, a train. He's got a train. He took a leaf out of Beyonce's book and he's like, I'm having a train. He's like, I'm having a train. I want my moment on the steps. And then Connor in Saint Laurent, this incredible blouse showing off those guns. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Are insane, and he's got almost me. I feel like I had that top when I was like fifteen. It's like a Poka dot hole today, but my arms didn't look like that. These arms look like they're the Hulk. And it's got it's got a lot. He's got a train as well. So I'm just gonna show see a Poka dot comes all the way down. Now. He actually came with a blazer on over the top, and he knows what we want. He did half reveal. He did a red carpet reveal of the arms. I mean, I guess the blouse, but like whatever of the arms. Now he's wearing Saint Laurent. A lot of people are in Saint Laurent on the red carpet because Anthony Vacarello is one of the coachairs who is the designer for Saint Laurent. So we saw like Zoe Kravitz, Charlie XCX, like there's a lot on the carpet who were rocking in that designer. We love Okay, okay, rapid fire through a few more because guys, there's so many good looks. I just want to give a shout out to Doughci who wore custom Mark Jacobs and she looked gorgeous in the eggplant color, this like headpiece, kind of like rising up to the sky. But my favorite detail about her is that she didn't want to my heels, so she got her feet painted in a beautiful Hannah design, wore anklets, and then tiptoed barefoot down the entire carpet, and then tiptoed up the red carpet. See, and that is move And that is a level of calf strength that I cannot imagine is hard. Tiptoeing is hard, tipto the whole way. If there was a flat footed moment from that girl, I did not see it. Surely she's flat footed inside or maybe she's wearing a shoe inside. What are the rules around being barefoot? And I just findin Anna winter going, Oh you've got a shoe ear right? Well, you know what at Chanelle Cruz's show last week, the girls were walking down the carpet barefoot. Fine, it's it's it's like on trend to be bare foot. Yeah, and then you've got like men like Quentin Tarantino who just like, let me put that in my movies. He's taking screenshop. Okay. Kendall Jenner in Gap Studio by Zach Posen. This is an interesting one. Can She and Kylie Jenna looked a little matching. They both had almost that kind of like nude look at the top, but Kendall's is modeled off a Gap T shirt and then she's got like a little fake nipple poking out and then just kind of cream beige draping of the dress. So Kendall and Kylie also especially Kendall, liked to make a headline with their outfits. Do you think this was as a headline inducing you're like, num, No, I don't actually think none of them are getting a headline this year. No, that it wasn't. Actually reason why I believe that they're invited is because they do get those headlines, and I think they were all really underwhelming this year. I mean, she's like, she looks pretty, she is pretty, She's a very gorgeous girl. But I'm just not excited by that is Yeah. I think the Genas and Kardashians, they just have the most enormous cultural currency, so I feel like that's why they'll always be invited. But I almost maybe liked Kylie's play on a little bit better. I know they're completely different designs, but she had the kind of almost like a nude top and then it was like the body undress of the skirt forward. Yeah, I preferred Kylie's as well. I thought she was more of a moment and worked with the theme yes better. What I did think was interesting about Kylie was that her boyfriend did not attend No you know where he was, Yes, And that's so fair, you know why, because Timothy Shallon May doesn't go to anything where he's not the star. That's his thing. The like the Kardashians and the Genders very much like they the significance of the moment, their red carpet looks, and I know they all work so intently with their designers and like they really care about the fashion side of it. Timothy Charalamayne cares about being seen as a movie star, which is so fair enough, but he doesn't really go to events, especially where he is now, like he has previously when he was trying to build up his capital and build up his absolutely in for me. But at the moment he's in now, he's going to go to a next game anything, and he's not a nominating else missing. Who so Kravitz's boyfriend slash fiance. Yeah, but Harry Style again everyone that they're going to walk together. No, I never thought they were, as you know, long time Harry Styles fan. I didn't expect to see him there either, And I think if he was going, we would have heard about it in advance, it would have been named, you know. But he's also about to start his world tour, so he's busy, and he famously gets tired. That's why he's making everyone the tour come to him. Right. Oh, yeah, he's not city hobby. No, he's not city hop he's too tired to go to Metguala. Yeah for a week. Yeah, he's reserving his energy. Okay, I need to quickly talk about a boy before we get into my favorite boy of the night, Bad buddy, is that I'm sorry, Is that not the weirdly hottest thing you've ever seen? Hey? Yeah, but I don't know whether I'm just like going through a real old man moment at the moment because I've been like really into the guys. So I'm really you haven't watched well, you haven't watched the Pit. No, because I'm I can't do enough. I can only watch grays Anatomy, just the lift, kissing scene something else. There's hardly any medical, like compared to the Pit, there's hardly any medical and graz Now No, that's why I like it. I can understand why you're avoiding it. But yeah, look, because I'm having such an old man moment at the moment, Like, yeah, I was excited to see a bit of great on the car so bad Bunny is wearing Zara and just you can just imagine her like running on them proves all the looks, you know what. I think what will be really interesting is Zara probably advertising in Vogue at the moment, to be honest, so she had to let she had to let someone wear it. Yeah, exactly. And obviously Zara was a big part of his Super Bowl halftime show, but Bad Bunny has aged himself here because I guess one of the part of the exhibition theme is different bodies, so like bodies are different size as shapes and ages. But he's the only one that I saw who really took the aging thing and ran with it. He's wearing prosthetics to make him look maybe seventy or eighty. It's really interesting because like everyone in Hollywood tries to look so much younger than they are. Everyone is on this like strive to look as young as possible, and like, no judgment because I'm I'm the same, but but I love that he went the opposite. Yeah, exactly. But the thing is men can do that because men tend to be like, oh, a silver fox when they get older, like he's he's sixty, Like let him dated twenty five year old and win an oscar because he's just getting started at sixty. But the thing he's in his next act exactly, he's just more, you know, kind of well weather worn. Now, whereas women it's like you're thirty, get out of here. So there's that side of it. But I've decided just to let the feminism leave my body for this because Bad Bunny looks so hot, and also he does you can did it? Yeah? I mean that's not terrible. Yeah, some people don't age well, yeah, I know the weakd I would have thought that he would have looked to the mirror and actually, wait, this isn't working there. I don't look back. But he looks hot and also bad bunny hot? Is it? Maybe you can because you can feel his rippling muscles and sexuality try trying to break free of the old man. And I appreciate a funny guy. And he was in character all the way up the stairs and he was walking with the walking cane and he was interviewed in character. I love it. I think it's no I agree, And I think it's really hard for a man to have a moment on me because it's hard for them, because it's not for them. And how do you compete when Beyonce rocks up with the train, Yeah, like still jammed in the car door while she's halfway up the stairs exactly, But he did it. He has something that everyone's talking about. Oh man, everywhere, we love it. Okay, who else you got? Okay? Well, speaking of making a massive moment, Yeah, we need to talk about Madonna. Okay, now, this is not all of Madonna's look. I couldn't fit it on the eye on the way. I think I've got a wide shot. We can do it, can we? We can do a jewel Hold up for this because I'm missing seven accessories, which is in the form of seven stunning women. I've been calling them Madonna and the Pips, but that's not even accurate because there are way too many girls for it to be Pips. There we go, see, Oh my god, I loved this so much, and seven people holding out this beautiful train and I love that because they're so strict on the Metgala red carpet, And that's why selbs look so scared a lot of the time, because usually if you're famous enough to be at the met Gala, then you're famous enough to travel with an entourage, and you normally never walk a red carpet or even walk into a room without your manager and your publicist and your assistant. But no one gets to bring their team down the red carpet because the guest list is so tight, So the sleds have to stand by themselves in a line. It's the first time they're ever alone in their lives. And then they have to walk the red carpet by themselves, and most of them, because they're socially awkward, are terrified. So I love that no one gets a plus one, but Madonna gets seven plus seven seven servants slash maidens. It was giving a bit handmaiden but okay, so she's in Saint Laurent. It is the head piece. I love. The head piece is incredible. It's a ship. It kind of looks like. Helped me out here because I've never seen it, but I've been on the ride a lot at Disneyland. Yeah, the Pirates, the Pirates, the Caribbean, the what's the what's the one like the one that the captain Jacksbury is his ship? Yeah, I could not tell you that. I thought it looks like more like the ship from Noserati. That's where my head goes. Oh yeah, okay, well that too. Well it's a it's a bad baddie pirate. Yeah, we're we're not good on the pirate lingo. But like, it's this incredible head piece. Off it is draight, like long, long, long pieces of gray fabric that these women are all holding out and then she comes down in this like black dress. She's holding it looks like kind of like a trumpet the piece that she's holding. And what I did love seeing as well was she walked up the stairs, glided up the stairs with these women helping her along up the stairs. But then about fifteen minutes later you see the seven women. They all came running down to leave, so they kind of like fairies fleeing like a sort of like midnight fairy like festival. So they were allowed on the carpet, but not inside. No, absolutely not no, And they were only there for the spectacle of the photos. They were all holding the different sections. The way they move was like a choreographed dance around her, so that the dress was never twisted. They all had like pieces of lace covering their eyes, and it was the whole look so like the dress, the head piece, the way her hair was styled, all the women. It was in reference to that surrealist female painter Leonora Carrington, who was the inspiration for Bedtime Story right the music video from nineteen ninety four. So that is so incredible that they went and like looked back. The detail is just like, honestly pretty much I would say almost my winner of the night because of the deep because of the details and the reference back and I love that they use like it does reference an artist, but it also then references Madonna as an artist as well. Yeah, because that's her. Like I just I can't stop reading the Everyone on her team gave an interview and I'm like, that's correct. Well, there should be seventeen interviews from seventeen different people who put this look together. Imagine how hard the Saint Laurent team had to work to do all of these outfits. Yeah, because you've got all the people, like the handmade into a holding, the dresses, and like the way there has styled a makeup. Even her hairdresser said that they specifically made her hair dark brown, not black, very undone, very untouched, and made it look that like the hair looked lived in, much like Madonna herself. And I was like, get out of here with that. I love that so good, incredible. Okay, this one, I would not say it's my fave, but I think it's a talked about one and I appreciate it. It was a departure from her normal basic black column gown look and it's Hailey er. Do you know what. I absolutely agree. I normally don't have particularly have time for her. And I'm like, I read because she's not a red carpet girl, she's a street style girl. Yeah, but I think she thinks she's a red carpet girl, and a lot of people, well, I don't know. I think I really like someone tell her that's fine, that's not her currency. No, I look, look, I don't really have much time for Haley Beaver. Fine, I said it, be careful saying that in these means streets Sydney. I know, Sydney shut down when she arrives. I know. I don't think I could say it outside the walls of the studio, but you have to come into witness protection. But I'm just yeah, I just never I disliked her. But I know what you mean, Like, we don't understand. We did a whole episode of this, and I don't think we got to an answer the huge intense love and the fandom around her and nothing bad, Like I understand. But the thing is, like, there's lots of beautiful young women who have beautiful style and beautiful makeup and skin and share their lives online and people love them. And I understand all that about her, but whatever it is about her and who have celebrity marriages and who come from vapor totally. Whatever it is about her that has kicked her up to like the highest tier of that is what. I'm not white. I don't know. I don't I've asked so many people who love her and they can't even explain it. They're like, I don't know, I just love her. Yeah, I don't know, that's it. I don't know what her secret source is, but that's it. I don't think other people can name it either. Something about it. They love her, and you know, for a lot of people that's enough. But I agree, normally I am so just like I can't even really bothered to check what she's wearing on her carpet, right, but I thought she looks so absolutely exquisite. The colors, I think is what it is. I mean, hopefully she'll wear color going forward because it does suit her. So she's sewing Saint Laurent, as you said many people are, and it's a beautiful sculpted bodice that has like the breast and stomach detail, which a lot of people, including Kim Kardashian, did to some extent. But the difference with hers is that her sculpted bodice piece with the boobs is made completely of twenty four carrot gold, which is crazy. And then you have long blue chiffon skirt and also the kind of flowing neck piece around her. And apparently she's wearing a gladiator sandal. Oh but we can't see it, but they were in the I know, we'll have to go look at the video. In the video, she'll she'll show them the dress pulls up and she's wearing like a gladiator sandal. Which I'm not against those coming back. No, neither neither. Fifteen year on me is thrilled. No, I've still I've still got some in my coh. I don't throw anything out. I've got everything. Okay, great, so you're gonna be insion, I can pull them out. Okay, I've got someone I want to talk about. Okay, I want to talk about Annicole. Okay, so also a co chair tonight. So she was their first. So she was she's a rule follower because she's a real follower and she's got good manners and she wants to greet everyone. So she turned up first. She's wearing Chanel, so she's part of the Friend of Chanell House of Chanelle. You know she's she's a Chanel girl. She's a Chanelle girl throwing through. I love this color on her. I think she looks so so beautiful in this color. There's been a lot of chatter about her hair though, Oh okay, so I don't know if I have strong thoughts about the hair. So the dress is like this beautiful almost like a burgundy glittering, high necked, long sleeve dress. Beautiful train, and then like almost like a lighter red pomp pom esque feather detail pieces. So that's all beautiful, and she's got the height and everything to wear that. Do people not like the long straight blonde people aren't loving the hair, What do they want like a bum? I don't know. I think I think you need the hair with that. It's because she looks like she looks like a medieval princess with the way she's standing almost, with the cut of the dress and everything, and with that kind of like almost like mystical etherean legend kind of vibe. You need that long, flowing golden hair. Yeah, it would have looked too almost like too prissy with like a bun or Yeah, I think so too. I don't have a problem with the hair either. But there's been a lot of chatter online and also in this office, we're really driving everyone, well, this is just talking to us instantly, and we've like literally, we're like taking notes and we're like, will be the expert. I said nothing out there to anyone, so I just nodded when everyone spoke to me that I'm coming in here and being like and she said this, and I was like, well, this is the actual story anyway. I don't think the hair is that bad. No, general, I'm shocked by that. Do you know whose hair I don't like? You tell me? Oh? And I did screen this across the office. Okay, I just want Gracie Aprams to stop cutting her hair. Oh my god. Everyone was getting upset but again ragging the office. Everyone was like, what's with her hair? And I was like, but isn't that her whole thing? Because you've got to pick more of a pixie cut now, but kind of, I'm short, it's so so short. And I loved her with long hair. Also, I did love her Chinel dress. She looked really really, she did look beautiful. I think she's trying to, like rile against that traditional pop girl look and have like an edgy haircut, but then she pairs it with a pretty dress, and I think it's like, she is so pretty, she's got the cheek brown. Just because you've got the cheek bones doesn't mean you have to do it rest. Just because you can have like a weird bob cut doesn't mean you should. But I also if anyone, if anyone can, it's her fair. Okay, faves again, we can talk about this forever. So one of my all time faves, not just tonight at the Metgala, but in all walks of life. One of my fashion queens Gwendol and Christie, who of course people loved as Briann of Tarth in Game of Thrones, but also in so many other things, including recently in Wednesday on Netflix. Yes she, I mean, the thing is, she's just so statuesque and beautiful, and she's wearing this deep red gown with almost like a fish a mermaid train one shoulder, this beautiful head piece. But what I loved is she has a mask of her own face that she was holding up to people as she walked past them. And the look was designed by Giles Deacon, who was of course her lover. Her lover since I think twenty thirteen, officially, having a hot, fashioned boyfriend also makes you dresses. Yes, the dream, actually the dream. Yeah, where is that man? For the rest of us? Absolutely socially as a tall lady, like it's so hard, like not just model tall, but like tall tall. It's so hard. Sometime many spillers that don't know this. Yeah, Laura Brodnick is very tall. I'm tall. I stood next to Doing Christy once and I was like, this is what I dream of because we're in Like, she's tall than me. I'm joking. Of course everyone knows you're tall because you tell tall time. No one cares about my tall issues. And I'm just saying, it's hard to find a really good dress, and her boyfriend made her one. That's true love. Okay. Someone else I wanted to shout out quickly before we get into the last few big moments was Lena Dunnam in her beautiful Valentino gown. Yes, she looks like she's an escape from an old school Las Vegas casino, but I love that for her. And she was nervous about going to the metgala. She wrote about it because her body has been ridiculed over the years. She's on a big high now with everyone loving her memoir, and I just quite like this Valentino look. I only the only thing I kind of wish is like maybe the feathers weren't completely covering her face, because that looks unintentional. I agree, there's there is too much feathering around the face, and it is like it's obscuring our view of her, and not in a way that it looks like it's meant to no, Like it's not like she's wearing like that's part of the dress for her face. Use she's She's like, I can't see. Probably, I'm like, can you imagine they're probably tickling her nose and she's trying to say stuck in her lip glass. So I love seeing as well the call back to the Valentino rockstud heels on her. So they were seen in the Devil Wes praa promo I'm Miranda and people were like, oh, she would never wear Valentino rockstud heels, blah blah blah blah blah. Now yes, Valentino rockstard heels are back. I love that shoe. I'm so excited to see it back. And there's like a modern twist on it too, which Lena's wearing. And I think she looks fabulous, which is one thing I did notice about Lena, and I don't like. Look. I always think, you know, when you see celebrities on red carpets and they look so perfect, the skin looks so perfect. I'm like, oh, there's a little bruise on her leg, And I feel like whenever I go to any event, I'm always like, oh, I'm not trying to cover up a bruise or something like that. I'm like, thank god, there's a bruise on the red cart. She's got a little bruising on her leg, and you know that's when she probably bumped it. If she's like me, she bruises just by getting out of the car at the met game. And she's got her leg out and she's got the shoe out and she looks hot. Look. I'm so here for for like Lena's comeback. I love her. I love the work she does. I thought too Much was fantastic last year. I'm excited for more Lena. You know who we need to talk about Rihanna, the lady who almost missed the Red car, The lady who almost missed the Red she saw arriving last, and she was like, you know what, girl, I'm going to leave my hotel when they're packing up the carpet, which I pretty I could honestly say that is what happened. They had to reroll that carpet for this girl because I think they were actually sitting down to dinner when Rihanna arrived. And I love being late too, but like, yeah, she was altly really late, and I look, people are given her rival times for the Red Carpet, so either Rihanna did not look, did not care, or saw her arrival time and when no, no, no, I'm Rihanna the only celect who could really do that pretty much. I mean, but no, that's not true because Madonna could have done that, Beyonce could have Like this was the where they work. Actually, those high level celebs there that do not care what rules they're given. No, and no one's gonna tell Rihanna, Beyonce or Madonna what to do. Did Rihanna win? I don't know, because she kind of missed the Red Carpet coverage, so I feel like there was this ripple of like Rihanna's coming and it's like, is she really coming because the red carpet coverage has ended. She came, She's there. I think she came. Maybe just there is such thing maybe as being like unfashionably late, maybe because the photographers like, we've missed your mom. Obviously her photos went everywhere, but you're right, the excitement was kind of everyone was in like the carpet's finished, and all the newsrooms like, and now we get our articles up. Now we finished getting our stories up, and so it was kind of like she was a late addition. So she's wearing Marjella to twenty twenty five, and it's almost like she's got a wreath around her head, but it's almost like a silver like crinkled metallic. It's like a done metal sort of yeah, and it's almost like it's wrapping around her like she's some sort of a sea creature, like she's been pulled into a whirlpool. That's my official fashion take on that. I like it. I'm happy to go with that. But yeah, I mean she looks great, and you know what the thing is that she just rocks up being like I'm here, take my photo. I'll go when I want, and you're lucky to have me. Yeah, and we are, and we exactly we are. I just want to ask her what's it like not to be a people pleaser because I can't relate to that. Yeah, Okay. The last person we're going to talk about was perhaps the most surprising yest of the evening. I don't think anyone was expecting her to show up, but Blake Lively arrived on the red carpet looking absolutely exquisite, and she is such a Met Gala staple, and this moment I can't describe it, like yes, that there were these huge entrances that were saying like Madonna, Beyonce, all these moments, but her arrival felt like a scene from a movie or a scene from gossip Girl, you know how, like gossip Girl always has, like it would always the episodes culminate a big event when someone who'd been shunned from society or blackmailed walks into the event and everyone's like, oh, I didn't think they were going to be here. So so truly, Lively at the Met Gala was a real life you can hear a moment, i'd we can hear it, like good evening for East. Oh I'm back, I'm back. Guess who was back? And she was back in a big way, and she looked like Serena. She had the Serena hair going. She just like had you know, I mean, she's barely aged a day since then. Somehow she looked absolutely glorious. I think everything about her look was again not calculated, but I think she knew that her arrival would make crazy headlines, and so everything she was wearing, the way she spoke, her accessories were all geared towards sharing a very particular message, which is that she wants people to forget about the legal battle with Justin Baldoni. She wants to forget about the smear campaign, forget about what the last few years have been, and just remember her as queen of the Met Gala and like the movie star she is. Yeah, whether or not that landed with everyone, but that was very clearly the message. Look at won't people are so divided over black lives in so many people are committed to hating her. But I do think that she went a long way tonight in showing like who she is, being confident as well, Like I love that she just was like I'm showing up, I'm giving it my all. I'm going to look absolutely stunning, and I'm going to have my head held high and do what I do best, which is create this moment, yeah, and be a fashion icon. And the timing was quite incredible because the statement had only come out a few hours earlier that she and Justin Baldoni in I think quite a surprising term of events, considering the coverage and how that court case was going, that they had settled out of court. They released between their companies a joint statement saying that the settlement had happened, that it was going to remain private, so there's a good chance we'll never know the details of this settlement between them. But their statement was very much like we're proud of our movie, we're proud of the message, and basically move on and let's not let's pretend this never happened, which for the coverage that court case has got in the last few years and the fact that she did a tell all with the New York Time, and then he had a live website where he uploaded all his material on her, like the most public legal battle we've ever seen, and then them releasing a joint statement saying it's been settled. Away from the cameras, please don't talk about it. And then hours later her attending the biggest red carpet of the year, and there wasn't like you there's almost like an audible gasp from the crowd because she was there, and she hasn't been to the Met Gala for four years, and before that she was one of the queens of the Met Gala always you know, the big dress, the co chairing the event, best dressed, all those things. And then she came in and the gown is incredible. Some people thought again throwing me off to some of the bus. Some people thought it was too prince SSSI. But that's her look, right, that's her look. And it was actually really nice to see a PRINCESSI dress all the carpet, like you know, it's like the fantasy and it looks so beautiful. It was a two thousand and six Vasace dress archival piece. They had like reimagined it. They added a bit of fruit. They did had a bit of fruit at the end. And they're in like stunning pastor colors as like peaches and pale pis and violets, and it's so so pretty. The beating is gorgeous. When you look at the dress as well, like structurally around the skirt, it's so amazing, Yeah, paneling. She just looks so pretty in it. Her hair like the you know, it was like classic black life, classic curls, a huge train, jewels dripping off her. Just that idea like what the fashion girls would hate, like too much, but too much in a perfect way. And then I saw her. She think Tuney did one interview that I could see, and she did seem nervous, and I think she was really she was rushing out kind of like all the details of the design of the dress, the importance of it. She was crediting all the artists that she'd worked with, and in a way where she really wanted to be like, I'm just up here for the designer. I'm here for the artists, not here for me. But then she was also carrying this custom Judith liber bag and it had four sides to it, and each of the sides was a different artwork by one of her four children. Now there's some people out there that are like and the statement from Liba was, we love working with Blake. She's so creative. She's such an incredible like visionary. This is a beautiful tribute to her family and she was talking about her kids on the red carpet. Then there's the cynical people who was like, oh, look at her using her kids to distract from the fact that people hate her, Like she's trying to like use being a mother to like just you know, kind of like quiet in the noise. And I think that's probably a step too far. Look, I think it's a step too far, But I do think it's like it's such a safe conversation to have. So while I don't think that it was to kind of distract from the people who like, you know, she can't control that anyway, But what she can do when she's nervous and understandably so, is have a conversation on the red carpet that she feels comfortable with. She's in like an area where she feels good to talk about it. Yeah, And of course that's her children, and she's always talked about her children and brought them into her interviews and her life and everything like that. So you know, it felt correct for her, and it was always going to be a polarizing moment of her arriving. But look, I loved it because I love the drama. That's what the met gal is about the fashion, the drama, And what I think is so interesting is that of everyone that came and every headline at every moment, the one that everyone is going to be talking about is yeah, exactly, And what a way to re enter society post the legal dramas, but also to do it so quickly. Yeah. Day of She's like, we're not wasting any time. I'm back on the radar back. Do you think she would have gone had it not been finalized? No? I think she went because it was fine. They were able to get the settlement happened. They were able to agree on a joint statement and get it out on the day, which makes me think like was it targeted for the day or were they just scrambling at the last moment. I don't think she would have walked with that hanging over her head, because then she would have been seen as like a victim, and at least in this a victim either of people who support her or don't, Like there would have been a negative energy around her. At least with this, there's like this finality to it, like that is over and this is my new chapter. Like a debutante, she's reintroducing herself to society. And you know what, I'm so glad because it would have been such a shame if that dress had had to stay hanging in the Versace Itelier instead of being able to be on that carpet exactly. And that's what the day is about. That is what the day is about. Thank you for listening to The Spill today. Make sure you're following us on Instagram and TikTok to see all the looks that we covered today. The Spill is produced by Manicius Warren with video production by Michael Keane and we will see you next time. Bye bye, LaBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's the Netflix comedy from Mindy Kaling starring Kate Hudson that is equal parts glossy, chaotic, and completely addictive. Yep, we’re diving headfirst into Running Point Season 2!It’s a sports show, a family mess, a workplace comedy, and a rom-com experiment all at once — and somehow we’re still fully invested. We unpack why Isla Gordon is such a compelling disaster of a lead, why Season 2 pushes her even further into chaos, and why we can’t decide if we want to be her or run from her.We get into the love triangle that keeps collapsing under its own “perfect vs passion” logic, why Lev stops feeling so perfect this season, and how Coach Jay suddenly becomes a lot more interesting than expected. Plus, the friendship storyline that quietly becomes the emotional centre of the entire season, Cam’s slow villain energy, and the cameos that feel like Mindy Kaling collecting icons for fun.And then there’s that finale — the betrayal, the twist, and the very obvious setup for Season 3 chaos.Love binge-watching TV? The Spill has launched a new podcast called Watch Party where we deep dive into the shows everyone’s talking about. Follow the feed on Apple or Spotify now. Plus remember The Spill drops the tea twice a day in this feed so follow us for all the latest entertainment news… OR you can WATCH our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and enjoy the watch! Link here. THE END BITS Find and follow us on socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thespillpodcast/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thespillpod Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thespillpodcast/ Read all the latest entertainment news on Mamamia: https://mamamia.com.au/entertainment/ Support Independent Women’s Media: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/ Your subscription helps us continue to tell the stories that matter to women. Want to join the conversation? Have feedback or a topic you want us to discuss? Send us a voice message or email us at thespill@mamamia.com.au and we’ll get back to you ASAP! Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Audio & Video Producer: Michael Kean Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast. From MoMA Mia. Welcome to This Spill, your daily pop culture fix. 00:05Speaker 2 I'm Laura Brodnick and I'm and Benham and welcome to a. 00:08Speaker 1 Very special episode of This Spill. We have been just hanging out to do this since we heard that this show was being made on Netflix, So welcome to our brutally honest review of Running Points Season two. I love this show, me too. 00:24Speaker 2 I love this show so much. 00:25Speaker 3 We talked about it, I think for a week in watch and a bit when the show started in season one when they had season one, but we never did a brially honest review in season one. 00:33Speaker 1 No, I know we didn't mind, Mae, because we did three episodes leading up. Well. 00:36Speaker 3 I think there was also a lot of content happening around the same time, and also not a lot of people were talking about it. I remember we were like, are we the only ones watching this? Because we really wanted to do a brilliant review and we thought not enough people were watching it to be interested in really interview. And then when Netflix put out their numbers for that year and Running Point was so high on the list of being like one of their most watch shows, we were like, oh, we have to do it. 00:59Speaker 2 For season two. 01:00Speaker 1 Yes, and so season two debuted about a week ago and ever since then it's been number one on Netflix in Australia for multiple, multiple days. So we know you crazy kids are watching it because you listen to us. 01:10Speaker 2 Make your last week. 01:11Speaker 1 Yeahs all these running points, super fans, No, I mean I feel like it sells itself. I mean it's a comedy starring Kate Hudson created by Mindy Kaling. Like the show sells itself. 01:20Speaker 2 It's like literally the perfect Vendi. 01:22Speaker 1 Yeah. So that was our initial attraction to the show. Well, when I heard Kate Hudson doing like a proper TV show for the first time comedy, I was in obviously the Mindy Kaling of it all, but also that it was so many of the creative team like Ike Baron Holtz, who co created the show with Mindy Kaling. It was so many of the same creative team from one of our joint favorite TV shows of all time, The MINDI Project. The Mind Guys, if you haven't watched The Mindy Project yet after all these years, what are you doing? 01:53Speaker 3 I even think And this might be an unpopular opinion that like the funniest funniest parts in running point, the show barely even touches the surface of how funny Mindy Project is, But you can so tell which jokes Mindy and Ike have written compared to the other writers on the show, because it's so like, specifically that really smart, quick sense of humor that they had on the Mindy Project. And it's so interesting because I'm looking at Kate's character in this show, she plays Isla Gordon, and I'm like, your character would have fitted perfectly within the Mindy Kayling universe in the Mindy Project. 02:27Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. 02:28Speaker 2 That's the thing. 02:29Speaker 1 Running point is very much I guess, like almost like the Little Sister of the MINDI Project, Like it's it's fun, but it's not. And I say this myself, who as a little sister's it's like great and fun, but just not quite. 02:41Speaker 2 As good as the original. I my younger sister to put it. As an oldest girl, I love that. 02:49Speaker 1 Well. The thing is, I'm not trying to diminish it, but the thing is, like, in my humble opinion, nothing else that Mindy Kaling has come close to being as perfect and hilarious as the MINDI Project. But that's not saying how the work is an incredible. It's like the MINDI project is like lightning at a bottle, Like you can't recreate it, you can't move it over to other projects. It's just like that bar is like in the Heaven. 03:11Speaker 3 It's like perfect humor, perfect storyline, perfect cast. 03:15Speaker 1 But it doesn't mean her other TV shows aren't great. It's like that's a special thing all of itself. So in season one, we were introduced to the Gordon family and the character of Isla Gordon, who was played by Kate Hudson, who's based on a real woman who took over Do you not know that? 03:28Speaker 3 I feel like I kind of I think you told me in season one and I had the same reaction. 03:33Speaker 1 Like what, I actually love this that I can tell you the same facts like multiple times and you'll give me a great reaction each time. 03:40Speaker 3 Because I think the first time you told me, I was like, oh, yeah, she's based on the Murdoch family, like Terry Boys. 03:46Speaker 1 Well, yeah, based on a woman who took over a family NBA team and like rows up the ranks to be like a really high like player in the National Basketball League in America, But a lot of it is fictionalized in terms of like all the party of girls stuff, brother going to jail, little legitimate child, like, all that stuff is just like a Mindy Kaling oh creation. So in season when we introduced to Aila Gordon, who I loved. She's like a messed up party girl heiress who was always just kind of on the outs of this extreme family business of owning this LA basketball team. And when her oldest brother Cam played by Justin Threw, and Justin Throw he loves a quirky role. Yeah, he's so good at them, just like he did the same thing in Devils prior to He's done the same thing so many times of the year. 04:30Speaker 2 But he has such like a serious demeanor. 04:33Speaker 1 Yeah, he looks so serious. He looks like a brooding heart. 04:36Speaker 2 He's really serious and scary. 04:37Speaker 1 And inside is just a little quirky character actor just waiting to get out. So he went to rehab and there was all this terrible stuff. 04:44Speaker 2 So that's not Justin Throw his character. Yeah, although maybe his method I don't know. 04:48Speaker 1 I don't know what he does in his spare time, probably running point method for imagine. 04:53Speaker 2 Telling the police. 04:54Speaker 1 I just I'm in this Many Kaling show. I started to my character, He's like, you guys, get it right, like absolutely not, You're going to jail. So we saw Eila take over the family business and have to kind of like prove herself to her brothers and also the basketball team. 05:09Speaker 2 And at the same time, she was. 05:11Speaker 1 In a relationship with lev played by Max Greenfield, who I love and adore so much. 05:16Speaker 3 His character is so similar to his character and your girl. 05:20Speaker 1 Oh really, I think opposite? 05:22Speaker 2 No way, How are they? How are they similar? 05:25Speaker 1 Because both love green juice. Okay, you're just that's literally every white man in LA. 05:31Speaker 3 They're both they're both obsessed with their partner, like he's obsessed. 05:34Speaker 1 With her, Yeah, but in a different way like he he Schmidt because if you haven't seen you girl, also, if you haven't seen you girl, also what are you doing? 05:41Speaker 2 So many recommendations? 05:42Speaker 1 That is also a top top tier comedy. Here's character of Schmidt on that is just one of those breakout stars from like one of those ensemble comedies that is like such a kind of like an individual thing that can't be recreated. Whereas Levins, like he does have that same kind of lovable energy. I guess that Schmidt does. But I think that's just Screenfield in general, because and hiss like a little smile. Again, that's just Max Greenfield's face, because whatever, Schmid's so like neurotic. 06:09Speaker 2 Yeah, but I feel like, you know, I'm gonna stick to my guy. Okay, you similar like. 06:14Speaker 3 I when I was watching him in Running Point, I'm like, I couldn't take Schmid out of my head. Maybe that's just because he is that character. 06:21Speaker 1 Yeah, well he does kind of create that character. 06:24Speaker 3 And like when you watch New Girl, it's hard to like separate them both. Yeah, but I do think he was perfectly cast for this role. 06:31Speaker 1 Well, the thing is, they wanted her love interest to kind of like again be a bit out of like this like every other all the other men in the show, like a bit douchey but also really power, like hungry with secrets and stuff. And Lev is meant to be sort of like this outside world of like an opposites of track, like iile agorded as this rich, kind of messed up woman who is also like a big theme of also season two was like she's a bad person, which is, you know, the whole kind of like thing that we see her go through, and Lev was kind of like this all too good to be true, nice doctor who cares about his family and cares about her and gives her second chances and like makes her coffee in the morning, and it's just always there in the background. And that's a very common rom com trope, which indicating loves to take a rom com troop and like put it in the show, but then like play off it in a bigger storyline because it's his idea of like, this is the perfect guy, but I'm not in love with him, as we find out in this season, and I can't force on paper he's perfect, but there's no like fire, yeah, which. 07:28Speaker 3 We kind of saw towards the end of season one where she kisses Jay like coach j Coach also very hot and attractive, but it was one of those storylines where you weren't like overtly rooting for them because Lev is such a good guy as well, yeah, and you like love them both so much, so it was very much like up to I guess her discretion on what she would do, and the audience would just like back whatever decision she made. And then I think that's where like season one ended, was her kissing Jay after Jay announcid he's moving to Boston and leaving the team, as well as us finding out that Justin Thurrow's character Cam is not as good as he seems. 08:10Speaker 1 Yes, because you thought at the in season one that he had, even though he'd done some bad things, that he had picked Eyelight to take over the family business because he really believed believe her. He was giving her a chance. It's only because he thought she would fail huge plot twists. In fact, Mindy Kayling said recently that they put a huge amount of cliffhangers at the end of season one of Running Point, because she's like, You've got to do that on a Netflix show. You've got to fill the last episode with cliffhangers so that the people at Netflix are forced to go, oh, okay, we'll do a second season then. And I was like, Mindy Kelling, just so you know, that only works for you. Yeah, when you have a TV show starring Kate Hudson. Do you know how many shows Netflix cancels famously, things like. 08:50Speaker 2 The Society mind Hunters. Yeah, exactly. They ruined people's lives. 08:55Speaker 1 They don't care if there's a plot twist at the end, they will cancel that shit. Even if either you end on the biggest plot twist ever and everyone's like oh again, like a society, they'll just be like cut sorry, it's good. Sorry. Sometimes Mindy Kelly doesn't know her privilege. 09:09Speaker 2 Oh my god, she's. 09:10Speaker 1 Out there being like me, playing a fun little game Netflix this little thing. 09:15Speaker 2 Yeah. 09:15Speaker 1 So again, that's why they ended season two on a plot twist that we'll get to because is like it's probably gonna get picked up, but it's at the time of recording, it's not official, but Mindy Kellings knows what she's doing. 09:26Speaker 2 It has to be a picked up. It will be. It has to be. 09:29Speaker 1 You don't cancel Kate Hudson's show. Ah, so we pick up in season two. 09:35Speaker 3 Yeah, we pick up in season two with Cam having been out of rehab and surprising the family. He's back in their office and he's like sitting in the islids like now, I guess his old office and that has made her own, and he asks for his job back now because she CEO. She's like, are you okay with working under me? 09:55Speaker 1 And he's huge when you're the big brother and like the patriarch of the family. 09:59Speaker 2 Exactly, and he was like yes, yes, yes, And then her other brothers are so excited to have him back. 10:05Speaker 3 And the beginning, we just see like Cam trying to merge himself with the family while also the audience know that he's not there on good terms for himself, Like we know he has like this underlining message he wants to like delivered to them, and we're trying. 10:17Speaker 2 To figure out what his play is. Yeah. 10:19Speaker 1 Yeah. 10:19Speaker 3 At the same time anyway, as that's happening, we also are with Eiler while she tries to find a new coach for their team, which is actually so funny, Like I found all the interview processes I did for the coaches were so funny. Ray Romano, Yeah kill that role. 10:39Speaker 1 I know, so good and so funny the way he because he was talking about getting the role when you're very Romano like he's just so humble, but also he knows his worth. He's like, my people told me that Mindy Kayling you want to be for a role, and I was like, yeah, I know him, Mindy Kaling, she's funny, I'll do it. And then he's it's so funny because he's also like I guess people just think he's just a bit of a comedy kind of person, but he's also like white an actory actor. Yeah, he's like, no, no, but normally I have to because apparently they're like, oh great, we're shooting next week. So he got the call and they booked him and they're like, oh great, so be on set next week. And he was like, wait, an actor needs time to prepare. He's like I usually like because I give myself a backstory and I think about it and I do research and. 11:15Speaker 2 All this topic. 11:16Speaker 1 I was like, oh my god, Ray Romano preparing for his roles is like someone make a documentary about that. 11:21Speaker 2 It's so bad. 11:22Speaker 3 And then like Ike Barnhost is probably like, this is a Mindy Kaling show. 11:25Speaker 2 You don't need to be doing. 11:26Speaker 1 So apparently he started researching like famous NBA coaches. And it's even weird that even I know this name, Greg Popovich, who was the San Antonio Spur, like a famous coach. 11:36Speaker 2 I don't know this. 11:37Speaker 1 Why don't it must have been it must have been referenced in like movies or something. Probably I didn't know what team he was and I've just heard that name. Maybe it's one of those names because he How many famous coaches are they? I'm sure in America heaps, but how many famous coaches names get used in TV? 11:50Speaker 2 Shows and movies. 11:51Speaker 1 That's true, so he modeled himself off him. Oh and that's a fun fact for the sports fans. And I just will clarify that's the last fun sports factor. 11:58Speaker 2 Okay, no sports fact. I had my mind and I just used it. I loved his character. 12:03Speaker 3 I love that his character had the potential to be so serious, but then the other characters pull him out of it. Like there's so many points where he tries to bring up his late wife who passed away, and all the other characters is like, we. 12:16Speaker 2 Don't have to. They're like, yeah, for your wife, caresn for your wife. Let's go. 12:21Speaker 1 I know. It's so funny because the thing is he does sentimental so well. So he has all those like when he comes in for his meeting, like he has all these like kind of bumbling moments. But then when you see like, yeah, he tells a story about his late wife, but then also knowing that he left his playbook behind. And I love the thing between him and Marcus where AILA's like you have to make him feel like your main girl. Raymond is like, I know his name's not Raymond over, you don't He's like, yeah, I get it. 12:45Speaker 2 I get it. 12:45Speaker 3 Like Marcus, You're my main girl, and Marcus is like, who's like the star player, He's like okay. 12:50Speaker 1 Gets thrown off the court to look after him. So yeah, there's a lot of kind of movement in the team and in the business as they kind of start putting the new team together, getting a coach, and also looking towards the playoffs. Yeah, sports jargon. 13:02Speaker 3 The best thing about Mindy Kaling shows and Running Point does this so well is like there's always a female lead, Like all her shows have a female lead, and that female lead has at least five problems happening at the same time exactly. So you're seeing like this really beautiful, put together woman just have these like frantic moments of all of these things happening in her life. Like she's having to deal with a new coach, she's a sponsorship with the team, her love life is in perils, she has to plan a wedding, best friend Ali is trying to join a different team. 13:32Speaker 1 Yeah, so she's got all of these. 13:33Speaker 3 Things happening and they're all snowballing into each other exactly, and like it's only specific type of person can do those roles, which is why I'm so glad Kate Hudson is like the main character of that role because I feel like all the leading women in Mindy Kaling's projects have been the best at that type of person. 13:49Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly, Yeah, Mindy Hellings. 13:51Speaker 2 It's such a specific thing. 13:52Speaker 1 I can't even describe a Mindy Kayalen leading lady, but I would say fashionably dressed, yeah, running somewhere, dropping things, spilling a coffee and having a hand. 14:00Speaker 2 It's a man treat. 14:00Speaker 1 Her badly but also be in love with her. That's because Mindy Kaling is like, she is a die hard romantic comedy fan. She's watched every romantic comedy, study them, she used to watch them over and over again as a kid, and she just wanted to live in one so badly that she created the Mindi Project, which is just a TV series that's one big, long romantic comedy set in New York. But the twist is the character would never be in a traditional rom com because she's an awful person and famously rom com women are like in a lot of the old school rom coms are just like they're clutch in sweet, but sometimes a little bit bland and sometimes not quite like they're Yeah, they never do the wrong thing because rom COM's taught us like you have to kind of be a bit perfect and like the man will eventually realize he's actually in love with you plot. 14:46Speaker 3 Twist and it's a really cute and like mousey yeah, and like her co worker is like calling her big l. 14:54Speaker 2 She's like, I'm not big, al I'm a tiny age and they're like, yeah, you are big. I'm wasting away. 15:00Speaker 1 And that's the thing about the MINDI character and the MINDI project is like she's so unlikable and that's why she made her a doctor because she's like, oh, this woman's gotta have unlikeable in the best way possible. 15:10Speaker 2 We love her. 15:11Speaker 1 It's just like a traditional Romcom lady wouldn't be pulling the stunt set. Actually Lindy pulls in that show. And so she made her a doctor because she's like, oh my god, this one's gotta have one like kind of redeeming thing about her. Even if sometimes she's like, oh you do have insurance, she's like, oh, you're gonna do it tonight and lost at home. 15:31Speaker 2 Watch. 15:32Speaker 1 So she's not the doctor you'd call, but I guess if she was there, she would. 15:35Speaker 2 Yeah. 15:36Speaker 1 So I like characters kind of meant to be that, And I love that she does have this redemption where she does decide to try and be a better person, but she's still a bit of a shitty person all the way through. And I love that about her because if she had this complete personality change, it wouldn't work. 15:51Speaker 3 It wouldn't work, and it also just wouldn't be good content. Like you want to kind of like have this like push and pull against the main character where it's like a very clever way of writing a main character where everything about them you hate, but you're rooting for them so hard. 16:06Speaker 1 Yeah, And I'm always rooting Foriler, except every time she says I'm a bad person, I'm like, yeah, girl, yeah, but not a bad person, just a bad person. And just like when they show them montage of her doing bad things like stealing a sandwich or stopping a chair and stuff, and they're just like, yeah, that's weird. 16:20Speaker 2 Love that I've never changed. 16:22Speaker 1 The biggest sign to me they were trying this season to kind of paint her as someone who used to be a bad person is trying to get better is the fact that they point out that before she met Ali, she never had a female friend is like you just know as a girl, that's the worst thing you can say to another girl. It's like you're not a girl's girl. Women don't like you. And usually in a movie and TV show, that's the biggest red flag for a character like that would be the villain, not the main character. 16:47Speaker 2 That's so true, and they really showcase that with It makes you think about season one. 16:52Speaker 3 You're like, oh, yeah, I guess she's like so successful in this world because you would see I guess quote unquote past shots of her like bringing her friends into the basketball stadium and stuff, but you never really see the friends. 17:04Speaker 2 Yeah. You always just see her hanging out. 17:06Speaker 3 In the locker rooms with the players and like her dad and her brothers and stuff like that. But you like don't hear about her mum or any other women in her life besides Allie, who's honestly, Brenda's song is like amazing in this it was only because they had to live together in Uni, so like their friendship was kind of forced upon each other. Yeah, but then like Alie literally becomes her person. 17:29Speaker 1 Yeah, And I do love that because it's also saying like, yeah, this is that woman that you get warned about that. And again, we know so many of those women who hang out with their family or their partner and that's it. Yeah, and they're kind of stuck in that world because and that's the interesting thing about the Gordon family in this is they are that very specific family that everyone knows a family like this where they're kind of all terrible and they hate each other, but they just don't have anyone else. Yeah, so they have to Gordon family, always coming back together and having each other's backs, like, oh, it's us or nothing. 17:57Speaker 2 Yeah, that's so true and I love that. 17:59Speaker 1 And yeah, again, Eiler is that very specific character where she's just like, girls don't like me, and yeah, we sometimes see her with a group of friends, but it's very specifically that thing of like party friends. 18:08Speaker 2 Yeah, like you can like a rich people friends. 18:10Speaker 1 Rich people friends where you know, like Isla Gordon's got the bottle service, she's got the table, she's gonna like you can take her car there, you know what I mean. Like she's those people like I'm sure half those girls don't even have her number and she doesn't know their names. They're just like her party girlfriends that latched onto her when she was like young in. 18:26Speaker 3 Her ghost clubs, which is why I like the friendship episode with Alie started off so strong with showing their backstory of how they became friends, and then we find out that Ali has been asking for a promotion. Firstly, asking for a promotion from your best friend must be like insane. 18:41Speaker 1 Yeah, when your best friend becomes your boss, which is something that happens in workplaces because you bond and become friends with the people. 18:47Speaker 2 Especially for the only two women working in that workplace. 18:50Speaker 1 And she has become like part of the family to an extent, and you can see that in the way like Ness and Cam to an extent, but he's a bit evil. But like how like Kness and Sandy have a back and forth with her, Like it's very brother sister. Yeah, like they're so mean to her, but they're only mean to her because they kind of treat her like Isler and they call her out and stuff. 19:07Speaker 2 It's very brotherly. 19:08Speaker 3 Also equals, right, Yeah, it was like her and Ali aren't exactly equals when it comes to that like hierarchy of power, which is why when Alie said that she's going to Canada, Yeah, she's going to Canada because she got a new opportunity that has more money, and like Ila's team could not pay her the same amount, and Eila just couldn't like work out why she was leaving, and she was like, you're leaving because you hate me, and al He's like, if you're a good friend, you'd congratulate me. 19:36Speaker 2 Yeah, And it just shows that, like how she's. 19:38Speaker 3 Just been living in that world a privilege for so long. Yeah, that like I think it was the first time that Eyler realized that Alie is not on her level. 19:46Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. And also because it was so interesting how their like flashback scenes of them as college roommates set up their dynamic of the fact that Allie was the first person who didn't give a crap that she was Isla Gordon or Isla Gordon, and she's like, hey, Islam who didn't kind of give a crap that she was this rich, like party girl, that she came from a well known family and just well she didn't like her at first, which is in the chasing there was a classic like you know, opposite and then they watched slowly become friends that scene where they're crying together watching a movie and it and they're like he can't see without these glasses, and it flashes to my girl is so good, especially because Macaulay Culkin wanted a bigger part this season and he only got for anyone who doesn't know, I'm sure people do, but Macaulay Culkin is Brenda Song's partner and they have two children together and madly, madly in love. 20:40Speaker 3 And they're also both massive basketball fans, every single and she's. 20:45Speaker 2 A bigger fan than him. 20:46Speaker 1 Do you know that once in the Lakers game she had to be hospitalized because she was watching the game and she became so like fraught watching it, and then she took a sip of water and they scored, and then she was like, oh my god, you have like sports people are very superstitious, and they're like, if I won this day, I've got to wear the same underwear or drive the same way to work, or like put the same stick on or whatever it is. And she was like, oh my god, every time they should have just so she was hyperventilating and taking a sip of water to help them score, to the point where she like nearly stopped breathing and had to go to the emergency room. 21:12Speaker 2 Brenda song Man just just a girl, just a girl who loves it. 21:15Speaker 3 Was so funny when I was watching the like part of the promo for this season. Yeah, Kate Hudson and Brenda Song had to go to a few NBA games and sit like in the like celebrity see, like on the court and like Brenda songs like jumping up and down and like. 21:29Speaker 2 Yelling at the players and pointing, and you can hear Kate Hudson just sitting next to her and she's just like, you're crazy. Yeah, she was like, I didn't sign up at this level of promo. 21:38Speaker 1 And so when they went to that movie and crying, it's cute because that's Brenda Song's partner or pot we culked, and he gets a few little cameos in, but like he was gunning. Apparently he was gunning for a big partner, like we'll see you next season. So that's cute. So yes, so we see there's this whole story about like a headhunter's in town. Yes, this headhunter who's going to come and take the team away. 21:56Speaker 2 Did you recognize him? 21:57Speaker 1 I did, reckon absolutely, I really jumped off my chair because guys, he's from the MINDI Project. He's so in the fans. So the actor's name is Tommy Dewey and he plays Magnus in Running Points. So he's from the Toronto Trappers. I'm sure if that's a real team, and do you know what, I don't think it is, and I decided not to look it up because I didn't. 22:18Speaker 2 Want to ruin the magic yea. 22:20Speaker 1 And so he's called the Poacher, So he was, And there's just that was actually quite a good plot twist because they're like, they thought he was coming to take a player from their team, and then he wasn't. And so it cuts to the Gordon siblings and they're like, but if it wasn't for that, why was he here? And then it cuts to him offering her this job? 22:36Speaker 3 And isn't it so funny that that was his exact character in The MINDI Project. 22:40Speaker 2 He like managed an NBA team and he would be at all these parties. 22:44Speaker 1 No Mindy Kayling knows what she's doing. So yeah, he played Josh in The MINDI Project and he was one of Mindy Kayling's many love interests. But he had a couple of seasons up, yeah, and then he left when his girlfriend showed up, played by Ellie Kemper, who is Mindy Kaling's very good friend and a coast on the off and he was dating the Tools at the same time, and they have this massive fight, remember when she has to handcuff Midy Kelly handcuffs Ellie Kemper. But I always remember him from one of the very best scenes ever in the MINDI Project, where she goes, oh, after they've like woken up together. She goes, Oh, let me throw on your shirt. 23:18Speaker 2 It'll be so over I was talking about. She's like, oh, let me throw on your shirt. 23:25Speaker 1 It'll be so oversized on me because I'm so dainty to be so sexy. She puts on like fits perfectly, but just a little snug. Then he's like, what happened to my jeans? He puts on her jeans and again they fit. 23:38Speaker 2 And he was like, oh they fit me, and she starts screaming. 23:40Speaker 1 She's like it was so it's the funniest thing ever. And it's because like in your head, you're just like I'm living in a rom com in the rear. It's just like, absolutely not. 23:51Speaker 2 I love that. Let me put this on to be so dainty. 23:54Speaker 1 And so that's his whole character, is that he offers Allie this job that she can't turn down, and that causes that huge falling out between Ali and Isla. And it's the worst falling out of the show because, as we know, like falling up the family member, fine ya, falling up the love interest encouraged fully out of your best friend, especially when you've aready got one. 24:13Speaker 3 Oh heart breaking, heartbreaking, And they really pushed that storyline because I'm just gonna say it. 24:20Speaker 2 Alie was in Toronto for way too long. What she's there for one episode? No, it felt way too okay, Like she fully. I was like, oh my god, Isla, stop her at the door, stop her? Oh okay, and then she's like fully in a different country. She had to go. Actually, they made it so dark. 24:34Speaker 3 There's dark and gloomy and blue, and the poacher only cared about what Isla thought of her leaving. 24:41Speaker 2 Did Eila crime, She's scream. 24:44Speaker 1 So I thought it needed more of a build up than which they would just I thought the whole Gordon in my head, this is the note I had in my head. The whole Gordon family would just fall apart without her not realizing that she was the lynch pin or not holding the entire company together, because I do think that's true, and also holding the family together, and all these boys who are mean to her and had taken her for granted would also go with Island to apologize to her. That was my fantasy, which happened, But it was enough when Ilan went. It was enough when Island and they had their friendship moment and She's. 25:13Speaker 2 Like, how did you get in here? 25:15Speaker 1 It's no small planes. 25:16Speaker 2 Did you fly commercial? 25:18Speaker 1 You're like, yeah, that is the whip put in near the bathroom. That is the world we're dealing with. And at the same time as all that's happening, Cam is slowly but surely being the super villain of the season. 25:30Speaker 3 Oh I love him though, justin Thrower, he's so funny in this. So we find out that Cam is trying to take back his place as CEO, and he's doing it through like very discreete insidious ways where he's slowly trying to make decisions on behalf of Isler. Like firstly he tried to hire his own coach and was just saying, this is what we're doing now, and Isla was like, no, we're not doing that. And then he tried to get his own sponsor on and Isla was like. 25:57Speaker 1 No, which his own sponsor our fly? Can I give him a shout out? 26:01Speaker 2 Yeah? 26:01Speaker 1 Because do you know who that is? Yes, that is one of my favorite actors of all time. 26:04Speaker 2 That is Ken Marino. Where he's your favorite actor just in so many. 26:08Speaker 1 Things, so funny, so funny. So he plays a really iconic role in for Roddi Kamas. He's the rival private investigator to Rodi Kammas and her dad. 26:18Speaker 2 Just so funny. That's just so weird. Yeah, a lot of the times. So he's always like kind of like and again he's just he always plays like a goofy bad guy. 26:25Speaker 1 He plays like he always plays like the worst person who's also secretly hilarious. So when I saw him pop up, I was like, well, dog mindy Kayley. And he was also in that like iconic series like Party Down. 26:34Speaker 2 Yeah, he's just in Brooklyn, My night. 26:36Speaker 1 Yeah he's been You look for a really good comedy show and he's in it. He's like one of those comedy actors who just like everyone calls him to be in their show. So when he rocked up, I'm like, now we're going Now this is a show. 26:48Speaker 2 Now this is. 26:48Speaker 3 Happening when he rocked up too, because he sponsors the company on behalf of toilets. 26:54Speaker 1 Yeah, so he owns a toilet company. No, No, he's a he's I guess he does all the in the stadium. He owns like a toilet company that installs. Yeah, that owns all the pipes and toilets and stuff like that. So and he's a season ticket holder. 27:08Speaker 2 Yeah. And he's obsessed with the team. 27:10Speaker 1 And so he donates money to them and stuff. 27:12Speaker 3 And he keeps wanting more and more and more, and they're like, no, no, no, you can't sit courtside that You're not a celebrity, you're just a billionmaire. 27:20Speaker 1 And then he becomes like a co conspirator with Kim. 27:23Speaker 3 He does, and they become buddy buddy. At the same time, Eiler is trying to get their existing sponsor to stay on, so they have. 27:32Speaker 2 A family basketball playoff. 27:35Speaker 1 Okay, I freaking loved this. 27:38Speaker 2 Oliver Hudson. 27:41Speaker 1 No, that's so because it was because there wasn't inter you with Kate Hudson. They were saying, like, oh, Ali should have been in there because she's practically family, and Kate Hudson's like, no, I know, but like the rule was so clearly that they had to be family, and she's like to the point where we got my real life family in there. So that is her brother Oliver Hudson and I weirdly know so much about their sibling dynamic because they have a siblings podcast. 28:02Speaker 2 They do have a podcast. You listen to it, No, because it's wild. 28:06Speaker 1 I don't think Hate's been on it for a really long time because she's booked and busy now. 28:09Speaker 2 But there was a great he's just soloing it. 28:12Speaker 1 Yeah, sometimes he solos. He did a really good episode with Blake Lively sister where they're justalking about a siblings are more famous than us? 28:18Speaker 2 Oh, I mean I like that younger brother Wyatt. 28:21Speaker 1 No, because why it's also working. 28:24Speaker 2 You know what he's working on What Monarch? Your favorite show? 28:30Speaker 1 So they have to have this family basketball thing because they have to have a thing over the rent of a stadium to this other basketball family. 28:37Speaker 2 No, it's a hockey fan. 28:39Speaker 1 Sorry, please forgive me. 28:41Speaker 3 It's a hockey family who are like wanting to invest in that who in that space. So they're like rivaling and they had like this weird bet going on. What's funny is that Oliver husband's playing for the other family. 28:52Speaker 1 Yeah, because he's playing a different thing. 28:53Speaker 2 Which is so funny because then they bring in Barrett Hole. 28:56Speaker 1 Oh my god, can we talk me that for a second. So again, finally I've been waiting for him to get on my screen. Yeah, exactly, because he was on the MINDI Project with Mindy Kley and they have a great professional relationship together where they create together and he is the co creator, co writer all the things of writing point and they had been talking for a while about if they would co star, if they would like make a cameo, would they act on it, because up until then they were like no, no, no, we're just behind the scenes. And then I said he started to get really kind of just being like, oh, I want to be on the screen. 29:27Speaker 2 I want to be in the because he wants to. 29:28Speaker 1 Be like famous, cause he's already famous and he's like in the studio and stuff. But he more SOO was getting jealous of the actors because they're think such a good time. Than he found out the actors had a text chain that was just for the actors, and every time he saw the message on it, he was like, I want to get in on that, and so in his mind he was like, what if I played the coach of a rival basketball team and I had a love affair with Kate Hudson, And what about that dynamic? It's a will they won't they? And Mindy Kaling said, yeah, or you play their cousin and you're the. 29:58Speaker 2 Dumbest person in the world. And so that is he plays. 30:03Speaker 1 Their cousin, and he's just so creepy and wonderful. He plays his exact character as Morgan, but with a slight he's like, he said, from his point of view, he was playing it like this cousin character has sexual tension with his cousin Aila. So he's like, just in his head, just so gross. And he said, there's a scene where his character, I can't even think of his name. I just think of him as like his Eyke Baron in this Cousin Ike. And there's a scene where he comes over to massage Kate Hudson's shoulders, and he wanted to make her freaked out every time because she's meant to be repulsed by it, which is like fair enough, she's meant to repulse by it, And so every time he did it, he would dip his hands in like a little bit of warm water, so when he went over, his hands were warm and wet. 30:46Speaker 2 And that's why I'm in And. 30:47Speaker 1 The first time she did it, she went ah, And that's the take. That's why she looks so freaked out. 30:51Speaker 2 That's so funny, but you can malage you mention it. I have like on the. 30:55Speaker 3 Basketball in that basketball scene where like he's like dying on the ground and he's like, I help me up, but she just walks me. 31:02Speaker 2 So gross. 31:02Speaker 1 Also, can we talk about, sorry, I'm not feeling the sexual tension between her and the coach of the one she ends up with. Can I tell you who she had wild sexual tension with? Is Scott's Speedman? 31:13Speaker 2 Yeah? 31:14Speaker 1 The actor Scott Speedman. I mean not what the actor. The actor is Scott Speedsman, but he plays the head of the rival family that they and their sexual tension so horeririble. I love Mindy Kelling so much because he's a real nineties early two thousand's heart throm and that's exactly when she would have been in her like, I don't I've seen him before, really, Scott Speedman a little show called Felicity. 31:39Speaker 2 I haven't watched it. 31:41Speaker 1 What I know underworld movies, other things, he's been what's okay, Wow, that was so her fe. 31:47Speaker 2 I've seen him in Running Point. 31:48Speaker 1 I think he's on Greasy Anatomy right now playing meritiths love interest right now. Yeah, right now, he's just going between shows being a love interest, because that's what Scott Speedman does. He's the ultimate love interest. He comes on the screen and everyone like, that's who you fall in love with. He does actually play a bad boy like this. 32:03Speaker 3 Though, that is quite likely and it's not just a bad boy, but he's like I don't know, like when that scene where like her car has a flat tire, Yeah, and then he starts like flirting with her a bit to get butterflies. 32:16Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the thing. They have such good sexual chemistry and sometimes you just can't will that into existence there it's not So I want him to come on next season when season three inevitably happens, and be the love interest for her, because now we've got tension, now we've got stakes. And also I can read Mindy Kayaling like a book, mostly because I wrote all her books multiple times, and I know that she loves will they won't they enemies to love the story. 32:43Speaker 2 Her whole MINDI project was all will they won't they? 32:45Speaker 1 Yeah? Because the MINDI Oh my god, you know how the other day I said to you, Bridget Jones is based on pride and prejudice. Yes, do you know that the MINDI Project is also based on pride? I know that, Thank gosh, Oh my god, embarrassing. I'm like your mind you just pass away. If anyone's listened to that an episode or seeing that video that went quite via, Oh my god, Emily loses her mind because she didn't know that Bridgittan's Diary was based on briden Bridge. 33:11Speaker 2 Go look at the video on our Instagram page. You can fight with everyriend in the comments. 33:14Speaker 1 Everyone who's like opened the schools. So I loved that, and like all the cameos this year was so good. The other cameo I loved before we move on to the downfall of Eiler in Love, which is the next moment after this, The other cameo I loved and again and Mindy Kelly and I are the same. 33:28Speaker 2 Person is Nicole Richie. Oh my god, yes, I forgot I was in there. 33:33Speaker 1 Nicole Richie is such an elusive being. 33:35Speaker 2 She's really good in it. 33:37Speaker 1 No, she's good. She If anybody who doesn't know the I mean, you know who Nicole Richie is. 33:41Speaker 2 If you don't, it's hard to. 33:42Speaker 1 Explain unless you were there, unless you're a teen girl or a young woman in the early two thousands, it's hard to explain the power of Nicole Richie because for a long time there she was the ultimate girl, the ultimate taste maker. And unfortunately it did happen after she lost a huge amount of weight and also committed a few crimes. Yeah, drug beast, and then went to court, went to jail all those things. Was one of those jail you know, like for a while that like Chloe Kardashi and Lindsay Low and Nicole Richie all in jailed. 34:15Speaker 3 Like me, and they all had like these dark gray underbags, but like smiling and. 34:19Speaker 1 They take their mugshots. So she went through a lot of shit. She went through a lot of shit, which she's been opened about. But then she became this glamorous fashion it girl, and she was in the whole like Rachel Zoe co hole. She was. Yeah, she was a zobot and dressed in a very specific way, but everything about her she wasn't a manufactured it girl, like she was the old cool it girl. Like everyone got a rosary beat. I mean, not me, but if my mum would let me, I would have. She has a rosary beat around her and cool tattooed falling down to her foot. Coolest thing ever she wore, like all the headbands that she used to tie on her hair. I used to do that and I used to also, and I lived in Townsville, so what was I doing. I used to lay in necklaces like herd okay leggings and the like kind of like lacy singlet tops and the massive handbags. 35:05Speaker 2 And it was such a moment. 35:07Speaker 1 And even when she had her kids and she named her daughter like Harlow Winter Kate Madden, and I was like, why is that the coolest baby name? Now she goes by Kate, which I actually find disrespectful. 35:18Speaker 2 Kate, Yeah, that's so many other names. 35:20Speaker 1 And then girl, I'm like, imagine being called Harlow Winter Kate and being like going to school and being like call me Kate. 35:26Speaker 2 I would say, no offense. My sister's name is Kate. I just like that. 35:29Speaker 1 I remember when that name Everyone's like, that is the coolest name. I've ever heard, and now she has like the jewelry brand, the fashion business and stuff because people just still want to look like Nicole Richie to this day. And I was never sure if she was a good actress. But then she did a guest in on the show he was obsessed with called Chuck, where she played like this evil got that she only like for oneiso. Okay, she played the evil high school nemesis of the lead girl, and she was so funny and good on it, so I feel like, but she doesn't do anything like that anymore. So the fact that she came in did a cameo for Running Point was so good and again played a nemesis one episode. 36:00Speaker 2 Oyah, she's so good. 36:02Speaker 1 And that I was like, Mindy Kayling, I just again, I get you. Mindy Tayling's like I want the heartthrow I grew up with and the cool girl I grew up with in my show. 36:09Speaker 2 Yes, that's so true. Okay, moving on to the. 36:15Speaker 1 The ill fated wedding of Eiler and Love. Did you think they were going to get married? I thought I had seen obviously there's stills of her trying on the wedding dress, so I thought we were actually getting a wedding. 36:26Speaker 2 Well, the wedding was such like a subplot. 36:29Speaker 3 Yeah, I feel like this whole season her romantic life was a subplot, Like it wasn't the biggest thing that was going on. If it was happening in season one, I feel like there would have been more tension with. 36:38Speaker 1 A wedding happened. 36:39Speaker 3 Yeah, But I didn't really feel the tension of will it won't it at all, Like I completely forgot it was happening until we get to the night before the wedding, which I loved. I love when the brothers got up on stage and did their Scottish Dad. 36:51Speaker 2 It was so good. It was so good. 36:53Speaker 3 And also I think seeing the four of them up there reaffirmed the idea to the audience that it is crazy that she is CEO of the company. 37:01Speaker 1 Yeah, and there's like four guys who are working for her exactly exactly, but it was so well done. 37:07Speaker 3 And then in the at the end where she like opens the ring and sees the ring that Coach Jay had given her for like the for winning and that was like the catalyst of her breaking up with Lev. And that is when Lev says you are a bad person. I know, which is the worst and you can ever say to a significant other. 37:30Speaker 1 And the thing is, I think we'd had this character thread with her. It's like she had done bad things in her past. Sometimes she did bad things now, but she had this guy that was so good and he loved her, so by extension, she too must be good. And I think she was really hanging on to that, and that's why she was pushing forward the wedding and everything. And also there's so many jokes. They don't say how old she is, but Kate Hudson is late forties, and so the character you've got to think his late thirties or early forties. You know what that means in a rom coom in life at any time, but especially in her realm, they're like, girl, get married, what's wrong with you? 38:04Speaker 2 And so she's also got. 38:05Speaker 1 This thing of is like she's like, I need to marry this man because he's good and he's so different to all the terrible men I'm surrounded with my family, like love them, but like her brother's open and her dad. 38:13Speaker 2 Was an awful person, and her mum. 38:15Speaker 1 By all accounts like, but she's like, I'm marrying this good guy, so I'm different to you, and I'm finally doing the right thing after being a washed up party girl for so many years, that I'm finally doing the right thing by getting married and letting all of that go was like a huge character arc for her, and a much bigger character art than getting married, I think, because it was her letting go of everything that made her good and right and having to just be like, and I'm just gonna be this new person I am who tries to do the right thing but still steals the sandwich. 38:42Speaker 2 Oh yeah, yeah. 38:43Speaker 3 And you can tell, like in that breakup that they're having where I was like meant to be a conversation. He when he says I think you might be a bad person, he knows, like that's the worst thing he could say he could say to her, because he's known like forever. She just wanted to prove that she was a good person, and like he knew that would be like the final thing and then he blocked her on. 39:03Speaker 1 Into which again, the worst thing you can do is you can do and say this. But I understand again I'm saying from a storytelling point of view, because Minny Kaylene, like she knows in her head she's got that third season, and just for the rom com premise to work around this basketball show, she needs to be single so that she can have the back and forth with the coach, so she can hopefully have the back and forth with Scott Speedman and she can you know, having her like happily married doesn't fit with where this story needs to go. So then we get into the final act, which is cam Like showing his hand that he's also back on drugs and using Jackie for his urine. 39:35Speaker 2 Jackie, he says that whole thing. 39:37Speaker 1 So we obviously we got not as much Jackie this season. We had the whole subplot with the dancers. I like that, which she was like, I'm like, I'm sorry, is this a Dallas cheerleaders documentary? 39:46Speaker 2 I don't know where they got that? 39:47Speaker 3 Plus and also so fair, And then we got to see Kate hasn't dance. 39:51Speaker 1 Yeah, so so funny about that because she said that was the scene that she was the most nervous about, was dancing with the cheerleaders. And she's a trained dancer because she's all saw a trained see I don't know if you've seen her dance in nine Glee, you've seen a dance in Glee. 40:04Speaker 2 I her dancing in Glee. Oh my god, go after this, straight after this. I remember her and Glee. What I remember Gwyneed Paltrow and Glee. Yeah, okay. 40:13Speaker 1 So in Glee, Kate Hudson played Cassandra July. And when Rachel Barry, Lee Michelle's character moves to New York, she's her teacher. But they have they hate each other at first of her back and forth and at one point they have a dance and song off to all that jazz from Chicago, and it's actually the greatest scene ever. You need to watch it because they're having a dance battle. 40:32Speaker 2 It's so good. 40:33Speaker 1 Okay, And Kate Hudson's a trained dancer and singer, but she hadn't danced for a really, really long time. She's professionally singing now for the first time ever. She was too scared to do it before her forties. She's so good. Kate Hudson can start becoming a singer in her forties. I know she's Kate Hudson, but I think we can just all do whatever we want. 40:50Speaker 2 We can all do whatever. That's what I'm taking away from her. Whatever age. 40:53Speaker 1 So they showed her the dance so Kate Hutson said, she got to set, they had the dances, they did the dance and she's like, oh, that looks kind of hard, but yeah, I can do it. When are we shooting? And they're like, oh, tomorrow. So she learned that whole dance in twenty four hours. The girl can dance. 41:07Speaker 2 Yeah, she is talented. So I love that. 41:10Speaker 1 So Jackie's other main storyline, apart from the fact that his girlfriend was like leading a Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders coup over fair pay and fair working conditions, that part where they're like getting dressed in the alley and stuff was so funny is that he also was pulled into Cam's web of lies and having to give him urinec heare. 41:29Speaker 2 And like jump out a window so we want to get caught. 41:32Speaker 1 My funniest line of the season came after that when Ness who is such a good character and this is not even a funny line, but it made me laugh out loud, where they're like, oh, he jumped out of the window because he was looking at a bird, and he's we've got to get those windows speaks. He's like, yeah, we love birds, but we love brothers more. 41:48Speaker 2 Like you're so stupid. His lines are so funny, he's his only funny lines. 41:52Speaker 1 It's just so so good. And then we find out what Cam's been planning, that he's going to overthrow the company, and it's such a kind of great moment when Ali and I like kind of band together to overthrow him and get their own like sponsors and get everything sorted and that ness and Sandy and I also love Standy this season. I thought I wanted him to have this big romantic story arc and I'm sorry his lover left him to be on Lisa in a another great cameo. 42:15Speaker 2 He has shown like, oh he's so cute. I do love Sandy. 42:21Speaker 1 I know, I love I love because his whole thing is like, I'm not that type of gay, because it would be the whole thing for a show to have that like very stereotypical flamboyant gay character. And I love that they've just like he's just got this full accountant yeah, and he's just like kind of this like gruff businessman who just happens to also be gay. But I also love the idea of out of the whole family because sometimes they sort of treat him as like, oh, you're the stoic one, you're this, you're that, like you're the serious one. I really wanted him to be the only one that had this beautiful romance and it didn't really work out maybe a season, but. 42:52Speaker 2 The whole family was going through the season. 42:54Speaker 1 The whole family really went through the ring up and then the part where Ness and Sandy choose to stand by Isil or not I thought was the ultimate kind of like build up moment for this season. 43:03Speaker 3 Yeah, and then like took away from like season one where it was like Bro's band together, Yeah, where like she actually proved her worth and they really found newfound respect for her, not just as like a younger sister, but just as like a business partner. 43:17Speaker 2 Yeah. 43:17Speaker 3 I was so nervous in this season, like Mindy Kayling would do that trick where she's just like not boys will be boys, Like these are the worst men ever. 43:25Speaker 2 We just have to live with that. 43:26Speaker 3 And I'm glad they came around because I don't think I could have dealt with another like annoying brother sister things. 43:32Speaker 1 Yeah, we need to see a little bit of growth from the season one finale to this season two finale. 43:35Speaker 2 I think we got that. 43:36Speaker 1 So where do you think season three is gonna go after that. 43:40Speaker 3 Oh the cliffhanger for the last episode. Also, I have to talk about when Jay and Isla were making out on the couch and I walked in. 43:48Speaker 2 And took form, like I thought we were gonna go Skinny Saunery. 43:53Speaker 1 Yeah, He's like, we go ski to be like yeah here. 43:58Speaker 3 So it ends after they win the playoffs against Boston, which. 44:02Speaker 1 Was so good because that's why you watch a sports show, Like I didn't care about actual sports, but it's so hooked to like life and death, human emotion, triumph over adversity, all those things. 44:10Speaker 2 So good. 44:11Speaker 3 It was like down to like the last second and they scored and one and that was like Jay's team, and you can see him getting kind of like giving her like a weird look and then storming off and then they just partied really hard. 44:24Speaker 2 They all woke up so drunk. 44:26Speaker 3 The next morning in Eli's house, Jackie comes running in and turn on the TV and it's this big press conference where it's announced that Cam and Al are starting their own LA basketball team to rival the Waves. 44:41Speaker 2 And their head coach is j Yeah, that's crazy, the ultimate brother lover. 44:47Speaker 1 Betraying me and I have like wearble their romans. They're like Romeo and Juliet now that they're on proper like rival team. So yeah, so season three it. 44:56Speaker 2 Just ends with going motherfucker. 44:58Speaker 1 Yeah, so good. She's so angry and hate Hudson does angry so well. So yes, humps for season three. I think it'll be really fun. Indy Kelly will get her way. She's like, take that plot twist, Netflix, Oh my god, and Mindy get on screen. 45:11Speaker 2 Please. 45:12Speaker 1 Yeah. 45:13Speaker 2 I beg you, I beg you. No, she's got an idea. 45:16Speaker 1 She's gonna play ix side piece because she's like, what's worse than playing like the worst t emn ever? Playing the side piece of the worst funny. 45:25Speaker 2 I love them together. 45:26Speaker 1 She's joking, but I'm also like, don't toy with me, make that happen. 45:29Speaker 2 No, I would love that. I want them to have their own storyline. Yeah, do a spit please. Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 45:38Speaker 3 Do not forget. 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There were investigations, celebrities were weighing in. We're going to get into that, but first, some news of a romantic nature.00:38Speaker 2 Yes, some news that you did unpack last week on the Spill, but that has finally we confirmed, And is that Harry Styles is engaged to Zoe Kravitz per People Magazine.00:46Speaker 1 Yeah, so I'm still I mean, I do think they are engaged, just because all the reports are on, I don't know if they're you know, if there's some celebrity couples that are kind of in bed with people and they do covers with them, or they do photo exclusives and things, and so when theyvenues to share, but they don't want to look tucky or they don't want to look like they're sort of fanning the flames of rumors, they'll just have their people confirm two People Magazine. But I don't see Zoey Isabelle Kravatz and Harry I'm sure of his middle name styles doing that.01:14Speaker 3 No, I don't think they're in fair with people.01:16Speaker 2 They're not like like tree Pain calls people up and she gives them the tea on ta like officially not in a bad way, But I don't think they're really like that for sure.01:23Speaker 1 Well, the reason they do that is they're not like some of the other tabloids. I mean, they're not tabloid. And sometimes they do if they run a room, they mark in rumor, which is fair enough, we all do it. But I guess the way that like someone like a tree Pain whose tailor swifts, pubblicers would do that because it's one of the quickest ways to clarify or put out a rumor, and the People Magazine team never breathe a word of it, even though it's kind of widely known who they're speaking to, so it's kind of like a win win situation.01:49Speaker 3 I'm not sure if Zoe and Harry's team.01:52Speaker 1 Is confirming to them, it's probably just someone there in a circle because they're not trying to hide it. Has yaid like yeah, because the quotes are very like, yeah, they're engaged.01:59Speaker 3 She really like three Yeah, thank god.02:02Speaker 2 Because I'd be weird if you didn't. I do think like, first of all, like shout out to all the haters last week who said it was a PR relationship and who.02:09Speaker 1 Oh my god, people, I never live in the fantasy world that these people live, where they think that celebrities get married, have children, spend their whole lives being photographed for PR.02:21Speaker 3 Sometimes for a movie they didn't even want to do.02:23Speaker 2 Yeah, people were like, it's a ring from her line. They're not engaged, is all I have to say to that. But anyone who's fanna Harry like saw it coming as well, because he did all those interviews for like American Girls. His song from his album which I cannot say kissing sometimes and discoing occasionally.02:38Speaker 3 That's the name of the song.02:39Speaker 2 No, that's his badly paraphrased album. The song name is American Girls. No, that should be a song. It should be a song name. But on American Girls. He literally like did a whole interview being like I assessed my life and I saw where do I want to be in five years. I want a family, I want kids, So I do think he was just like, right, Zoe Kravitz, it's with you.02:55Speaker 1 Everyone falls in love with Zoe Kravitz when they date her, like, yeah, we couldn't beating away. Yes, yeah, And she's only said yes three times that we know.03:03Speaker 3 Of, and this is the third one and this is the third.03:05Speaker 1 But she's if you're like the that's high odds if you're getting proposed to all the time, as I believe she.03:09Speaker 2 Would, Yeah, j Reckon, everyone has like did Michael faspend a late day?03:13Speaker 3 And she was like, can badly tried? He would?03:15Speaker 1 He would write it off now, but you just know that boy was like, please marry me, and she was like, no.03:19Speaker 2 No, I can't, pen Bactually I've got other people to marry exactly.03:22Speaker 1 Well. Someone she did say yes to was Channing Tatum, who's done in her movie Blink twice yea, and he put up a little Instagram comment this week that I'm actually kind of more invested in because like the engagement room is, I'm like still a rumor. I'll really believe it when I don't know if we'll see wedding photos. As we said previously, she did share a lot of photos from her wedding to Carl and they had that chic Parisian wedding where she wore the ballet flats. Yeah, but I don't know if this time around the level of fame and intrusion around the two of them, whether they will.03:51Speaker 3 But we'll see.03:52Speaker 1 But anyway, I just want everyone to spare a thought for Channing Tatum today because as news of the engagement was confirmed, I mean it's with the timeline, like definitely within the few days it was confirmed, but in the hour that after People Magazine fran I'm just saying there's.04:07Speaker 3 A correlation and that man like that man's been.04:09Speaker 1 Super famous for a long time. He has dated a lot of high profile women. Channing Tatum knows what he posting his Instagram story will be picked up as part of the news story, so he wanted us to know. I believe how he's feeling right now. So Channing Tatum posted this poem to his Instagram story, My brain and Heart divorced a decade ago over who was to blame about how big of a mess I have become? Eventually they couldn't be in the same room with each other.04:38Speaker 2 It's very Chloe Kardashian of him. Why why Kloia Kardashian, She's always sharing a cryptic Instagram Oh, you should spend more time on her Instagram story.04:46Speaker 1 No, I used to like love following all the Kartashians on Instagram when they would like film inside their like houses and shows, like when it was like kind of like an unedited version of their reality TV.04:54Speaker 2 Now it's like sponsorship, sponsor, sponship. Well, she's still sometimes she has a poem, so you got to get in there. I'm not I'm not going back into the story. I think Channing and he's like, Okay, that's what you do.05:03Speaker 1 We can't be in the same room together. Feels very pointed. I'm sure one day in some magazine profile when he's there's a photo of him looking soulfully off into the distance, a reporter probably from Vanity Fair, We'll ask him about this and he'll be like, no, it was just it was just about my heart and my head kind are the timing? Yeah, like we couldn't be in the same room together.05:23Speaker 3 What do we think?05:23Speaker 2 What's interesting because when they broke up, obviously they were doing press for Blink twice, and they kept saying like the nicest things about each other. I mean, you're not going to go out and be like she's the worst. But at the time they were still really complimentary of each other. And then I kind of think that now it's just like, oh, maybe he's a bit sad.05:38Speaker 3 Oh, I bet he's sad.05:39Speaker 1 No, I bet he's one thing is okay, And first of all, I'm not shading Channing Tatum.05:43Speaker 3 I actually quite like that man. I like him.05:47Speaker 1 He's just a dufist who also has a bit of like a good head on his shoulders for like producing and making movies and kind of and like was like instrumental and kind of building out the magic mic Bran into like a feminist masterpiece. If you've seen this stage show, well, yeah, the stage show is a feminist masterpiece. And I know here's people around him who do that. Ye, Because the one time I think he really could have been outed as a Hollywood jerk was when the Sony email league happened.06:11Speaker 3 Oh do you remember all of his because.06:13Speaker 1 He was like really in bed with Sony with like making Magic Mind and all his movies. I'm not like he could be a terrible person behind the scenes. I'm just saying, like, yeah, he's see I lovely. His private emails were leaked and there are a lot of celebrities who came out of that looking badly, but his were just like, yeah, baby, our movie is so good, like, yeah, we did this, thanks so much for your help, and I'm just getting how are you little? By all accounts greaker, Yeah, exactly. And you know, I feel like Zoe Kravitz wouldn't date a bit of us. She was probably just kind of got like they made that movie together. She was directing, he was the star. They were like really kind of like this creative partnership. And I feel like, maybe, as you're saying, when they kind of finished it and they're just sitting in their apartment together, just the two of them, that's when you go, huh, yeah, maybe is it forever?06:53Speaker 2 And maybe that's what he means by sharing this poem. At this time, he's like he's like my head and my heart couldn't agree, and like maybe in his heart he liked her, but in his head he was like, oh, well, she's not the one for me. No, I feel like she broke up with him for sure. Wasn't that the vibe? I mean, probably she does have the vibe of someone who would like aways with him. Yeah, she's not the nun percent.07:13Speaker 1 And I think the catalyst might have been member when he posted that photo of her sleeping.07:18Speaker 3 You think she saw that photo and she went too much. I think she got the ick.07:21Speaker 1 I think she already had the ike because they were back from filming, like they're on an island and they're like.07:25Speaker 3 Filming on location.07:26Speaker 1 They're making this like intense movie, and she was like, oh my god, he's an incredible like filmmaker and actor and we're collaborators. And I think they got back to their apartment and where they're just having their downtime. And that's when it's why so many people like broke up during lockdown. It's like, oh, do I really want to sit on the couch to this person forever?07:41Speaker 3 Not really? And then he posted this photo.07:44Speaker 1 Of her sleeping and with a lovely caption about how creative and credible she was, but it did give an air of desperation that he knew she was one foot out the door, and he tried to win her back with an Instagram story. And now he's posting to an Instagram story about his heartbreak.07:59Speaker 2 It's very poetic and lovely when you think about it.08:01Speaker 3 I mean, I don't love it.08:02Speaker 2 If I was him, I would keep quiet and like keep someone lure and mystery the moment in time.08:07Speaker 1 And also he's in his early forties and he's dating I believe they're still together a woman in her I'm going to say late twenties, mid twenties. Yeah, so at the end of the day all met at the same And also he's fine. I'm so can you imagine being her today? You're like, Hey, did you just post a cryptic messages?08:22Speaker 3 Yeah? Ex got engaged to Harry Styles.08:23Speaker 1 Interesting choice, Yeah, interesting, Well thoughts and pros with that girl when I'm really thinking of Yeah, I'm sure everyone else is fine.08:28Speaker 3 Yeah.08:30Speaker 2 So production on season four of The White Lotus officially kicked off this week in France, and we were all very excited about it because the car sounded really incredible. It is sort of a new French location vibe. We're not on a boat now, we're near where there are boats. So essentially this one is going to be like set at the Can Film Festival. There's going to be two luxury hotels, the Hotel Martinez, which will be like the White Lotus Can. So they've moved away from filming at four Seasons for this one, and then the next will be the Chateau Della. I'm going to say this is really bad Messadier in Santrope, which is going to be the White Lotus do cap. So it's kind of like a rich, luxurious background. There's gonna be Ken Film Festival filming, which will actually kick off on May twelve, So I think they're actually going to film at the festival, which is cool, and we'll be a lot of fun because I'm sure there will be some celebrity cameos. But the actual cast itself was very impressive when it was first announced. So you've got like Alexander Ludwig, who I know from The Hunger Games but other people would know from Vikings, AJ Michayla, Steve Coogan, Christmasina, Sandra Bernhard, Max Greenfield. The most exciting one though, was when Helena Bodham Carter was announced, so she was one of the first ones announced. It was all very tizzy and very exciting because also as much as I love her, she's not necessarily I would think someone i'd picture on the White Loaders.09:42Speaker 3 I don't know about you.09:43Speaker 1 No, no, no, she doesn't really do TV like she does. She is kind of u She's a character actress, but she does a lot of big blockbusters. And she's also very careful that she said now also at this point her career of what she says yes to and who she wants to work with. She is one of those actresses who is which is only a small number of women in Hollywood who get a huge amount of offers and can actually pick and choose what they want. And she has also been very vocal in the past of only working with certain directors and filmmakers. So one like, she's a huge star. She's definitely the biggest name of this cast by far. And it was kind of an unwritten thing from Mike White, who's the creator and writer of The White Lotus, that she was going to be the center point or the lynchpin for the story. So you got this idea that they had met many times they had this collaboration and he had kind of centered everything around her. And the crazy thing is like recasting a role, even a huge role like that, is not unheard of, you know, like a Hollywood production or a TV show, but very very rarely when you're on set, especially a set like this where you've brought because famously the White loatus doesn't film in chunks and different locations. They bring the whole cast together and kind of lock them in. There's like summer camp vibe at like a beautiful resort and location and kind of shoot it all in one go with everyone on set at the same time. So the fact now that the star has led the premises is crazy.11:03Speaker 3 Yes.11:03Speaker 2 So over the weekend, it was announced to The Hollywood Reporter that Helena was dropping out of season four and it was quote like just days into shooting, so that actually started and then all of this happens. So what the Hollywood Reporter has said is with filming just underway in season four, it's become apparent that the character Mike White created for Helena Bonham Carter did not align once they got to say it, once they started filming. And this is from a HBO spokesperson, so it's also not rumor. Yeah, they said the role has subsequently been rethought, they're rewriting it. It's going to be recast in the next few weeks. The producers and Mike White are sad and they won't get to work with her, but they remain quote ardent fans and very much hope to work with the legendary actress on another project soon. So obviously that came out over the weekend, very formal, very official.11:44Speaker 1 It is, And like, I just I just feel like something bigger has definitely happened. Yeah, for like production to be stopped like that and for her to just like not be in the role at all, and what kind of creative differences have happened behind the scenes for them not to be able to get this character to work in this setting, because it is a huge deal now in the middle of production, and Mike White is you know, he speaks about being so meticulous about his casting because the casting is really what makes the White lotus every year because it's the same formula. We know there's going to be a death, that it's the sort of the same thing over and over again. The only thing that we're really tuning in for is all these different characters and their dynamics and how they come across. And so he has said before he's so specific about who he casts, and other actresses have said that we don't usually audition, but we auditioned for the White Lotus because that's just what you have to do. And he writes parts for people sometimes, like he did for Helen Us. So I just feel like something quite crazy has happened. I mean, not even crazy. I just want to for it got there and he was giving her direction to notes and she was just like doing her interpretation because that's what she kind of does, like she interprets her characters, and it just didn't align to the point that she hopped on a private jet out of there.12:56Speaker 2 And I love her deally and she is an excellent actress, but I also feel a lot of the time when I see her on screen, it is very similar, and I do, Yeah, I wonder if you're right, and like maybe the vibe of what he wanted to bring out in her just wasn't what she wanted to give.13:09Speaker 3 Maybe, yeah, I mean, also don't I mean, I don't know.13:11Speaker 1 I think also, you get to a stage in your career, and like I feel like Helena would be there where She's been in the industry for like well over three decades now, and you kind of get an idea of like how you want to work and how you want to shape things. And she is such a if you listen to interviews with her, likeath interviews that she's done, she's such a kind of like on Hollywood Straight Talker and doesn't stuffer fools. Not that I think my wife is a fool, but I also just think that like she just got there and she it didn't really work out. I guess the one kind of good thing is that because they have all the casts there, they've been able to pull all of the scenes forward, so they haven't had to fly people in and like all that sort of stuff. They've just been able to keep filming while they recast this role. Yeah, but it's I mean, it does happen sometimes. Remember when Stuart townsmen I mean not remember because we're not there, went to the Lord of the Ring set and started filming the role of Aragon and then they're like, it's actually it's not going to work, so you just need to sorry, like thanks for coming to New Zealand thanks for putting on the outfit. Yeah, and we're going to fly you out. And an actor called Vigo moreess fly little guy, pay no attention to you put on the way.14:13Speaker 3 I mean, it has to happen.14:14Speaker 2 Sometimes sometimes you do get to set and realize that a dynamic or a grouping doesn't work, or that like, hey, you did a chem test, but actually as we try to bring it together, it's not working. Yeah, which is something The Daily Mail has suggested. So an anonymous source has told The Daily Mail that the word is Helena left because of a clash with Sandra Bernhard.14:33Speaker 1 I mean, I kind of almost want that to be true. I would like it to be true.14:38Speaker 2 They're denying the claim, but I'm interested to know if something has happened.14:43Speaker 1 If that happened, that will definitely come out, because it'll come out from Sandra or Helena, Like one of them will say it.14:49Speaker 3 Yeah. They won't keep that quiet. They just don't.14:51Speaker 1 They're not on social They're not going to like tweet it or instare it or anything like that. But one of them will say it one day and like.14:56Speaker 2 Potentially, yeah, it could come out in an interview one day.14:59Speaker 3 I mean the White.15:00Speaker 2 This is like known for having a scandal here and there.15:02Speaker 1 It's always one scandal every season, but it's like almost like scandal light.15:07Speaker 3 It's just like they're never crazy.15:08Speaker 1 It's never like, as far as we know, like a big blowout fight or it's never like, you know, two married people hooking up.15:15Speaker 3 I think it's.15:16Speaker 2 Because not that they were married, but Ami Leewood and Wilton Goggins on following each other and that whole drama.15:21Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, I was that crazy, but that was crazy.15:24Speaker 2 That was even still that felt drama light because they kind of buried it and did stuff together afterwards.15:28Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, no, that's definitely That's definitely the big one.15:31Speaker 1 But I normally get the vibe that it doesn't spill over into social it's more just like as if like your colleagues and you are away for a month and like all these alter personal dramas and and all the stuff like blow up around like who's going to the beach together and who's going to lunch? And then everyone said they all organize a dinner every night, and like not everyone goes to every dinner like politics.15:51Speaker 2 Well yeah, last season it was something to do as well with like Jason Isaacs not getting on with everyone, and then he just kept dropping tea and everyone.15:58Speaker 1 Get Jason Isaacs on set. He was the only one giving us information last time around, and it's just unfortunate he wasn't super cross what was happening, because you just know that if he knew what was happening.16:10Speaker 2 We would know get him on the New white Land, we'd be getting like a four part Red Carpet Answer series.16:15Speaker 1 I know.16:15Speaker 2 So obviously now they're like working to figure out who's going to be the new Helena Bonham Carter. Like while actively filming, as you said, they're able to kind of bring forward other scenes. But there are rumors that Jennifer Tilley is in talks to replace her.16:29Speaker 3 That would I think that's a good fit.16:31Speaker 2 Yeah, so if anyone who doesn't know, she's currently a real housewife of Beverly Hills and a successful career poker player, but she's also like an Academy or nominee. She's like Chucky. He loves that sort of like a bit of stunt cast. Yeah, a stunt casting. I am intrigued of, like what exactly that role entailed that you would replace someone like Helena with someone like Jennifer.16:51Speaker 3 Yeah, that's a that's a swing, isn't it.16:53Speaker 1 I just like when you said that, I was like, oh, that kind of makes sense because Mike White like it's crazy. Well, no, yes, he is a creative genie. But like, if you didn't want Helena, why would you go and cast another like critically acclaimed British actors, do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, obviously whatever he wanted from that character is not he's not getting from her, and she can do like she does like a lot of times, do a similar kind of vibe of her, like quirky character, but got the rain. She has a lot of range, and so he couldn't get it out of her. Maybe the right thing to do is to go in completely the opposite direction and get the poker playing housewife to do it.17:31Speaker 3 Because otherwise you're just recasting the same kind of actress and they would she would give the same kind of thing.17:35Speaker 2 Yeah, And I mean, like, not a lot is known at this stage, but I'm assuming with her being one of the first that she was also going to be one of the most central to the plotline. So it's also like very important obviously that they get this right to fit in with everyone else. But also you don't have much time. This isn't like a case of like, oh, we've got years to film, like they can't film festival starts in two weeks.17:54Speaker 1 Yeah, and they're clearly going to film it, and they only have these like locations booked out for a certain amount of time. It's because book out a hotel that is your set and also where the carts live, and you only had that hotel.18:04Speaker 3 I mean, I'm sure there's a buffer.18:06Speaker 1 On either end, not us getting worried about the production timeline. For the White Loaders, there's a buffer on either end, but like how big is that buffer? Yeah, because they're shooting quite quickly and you only have all those actors on hold for a certain amount of time to shoot, and then they often have built into their contracts like to come back and do reshoots. But again, the White Lotus films so differently, yes, that they usually do knock it all over in like one series, and everyone like leaves the camp they've been staying at.18:31Speaker 3 Yeah, it's absolutely wild.18:32Speaker 2 What I do hope happens though, is that they set an entire episode in like the period of a standing ovation at camp because gos for like twenty minutes. If you had different povs, you could fill a forty minute episode.18:43Speaker 1 It's an entire episode just from a standing ovation point of view, and like, I'm sure they will absolutely again Mike White, he's on the case.18:49Speaker 2 He's a bit busy on the case. He's lost his cast, but he's on the case otherless.18:54Speaker 1 So this is the year that I became very invested in reality TV because.18:59Speaker 3 Of the show. Well done to me. I thought I was better than everyone else.19:02Speaker 1 Turns out I'm not mad, and that was because of a show called Summer House. I've also never been into true crime before, but recently I find myself very invested in true crime also because of Summer House.19:16Speaker 2 Yeah, you put on your little FBI hat and you're ready to go.19:18Speaker 3 Me and everyone else in the world.19:20Speaker 1 Like, if you've been on any sort of social media platform grouped had anything over the last couple of days, you would have heard about the Summer House league breaking news. Obviously, big things happening in the world, but this was a bit of a fun for all of us. So, as we've said before on two episodes that we've covered, this, Summer House a reality TV show on Bravo that's been running for ten seasons, is in the midst of a huge scandal because two cast members, Amanda Patula and West.19:45Speaker 3 I want to say, Wilson not important. That man isn't Wes Wilson.19:49Speaker 1 The name of Ryan Reynolds in Deadpool is I don't know something to information, No, I know, I don't think it is. Those two hooked up and confirmed their relationship, which was a huge drama because Amanda was newly separated from her husband, Kyle Cook, also a member of the Summer House, actually a founding member since season one. But the bigger thing was is that Sierra Miller, a very beloved star of Summer House, had had a very intense relationship love story with West and was very very close friends with Amanda. So betrayal across the board. So up until this moment, people involved in the situation have given a few interviews. Wes did like a little meandering story on his podcast. Amanda put up something on her Instagram story saying she had to get it to real life, but she knows she's hurt people. Kyle Cook's giving interviews on the street. Sierra did a Glummer magazine cover kind of explaining her story. But everyone has really been waiting for the Summer House reunion because if you don't watch Bravo, which I personally didn't until the last year and a half, is that they released the season and then a few like well many months after the season has wrapped, but a few weeks after the final episode has aired, they have a reunion hosted Andy Cohen where all the carts come back together and they look back on this season and they have a few laughs, but mostly they air grievances and they fight out kind of things that have happened. So all eyes have been on the Summer House and reunion because not since scandal, not since the vander Pump Rules situation, with a cheating scandal of a much more intense but equally important kind of layer, not since that happened have people been tuned in for a reunion like they have for the Summer House reunion. And then we found out it was happening, and the casts were pictured going into the reunion. They were pictured leaving West and Amanda very infamously were photographed leaving together.21:37Speaker 3 She was wrapped in a blanket. I'm sure why.21:40Speaker 1 It's very cool, stressful, Well, she wasn't covering her face, but maybe she just needed a security blanket. And then like everyone's like, it's this brand of blanket, and then the brand came out, was like it's not us, we wouldn't be associated.21:51Speaker 3 So like tensions were high.21:52Speaker 1 Yeah, and Andy Cohen even filmed himself afterwards being like, okay, we filmed the Summer House reunion and he said, you know, I've been doing this for a long time. I've done over one hundred reunions and nothing I've seen has been as intense as this. And everyone's like, oh my god, this is going to be crazy. And then a day or so later, a piece of audio from the Lockdown Secretive set was leaked online and no one can even trace like where it just like it just appeared all of a sudden.22:19Speaker 3 It was just everywhere. I was convinced it was Ai. I was like, you're not going to get me today, I.22:23Speaker 1 Know exactly, and everyone's like, this is Siero, this is a man. I'm like, no, it's not like I listen to it and it was an audio leak from set. Now we're not going to play it because one legal issues, but a bigger, a bigger issue is that Andy Cohen asked everyone not to. He's like, yes, Andy Cohen took a real approach. He has been very intense about this. That man has been through the ring. Oh my god, the like it broke kind of late at night and then like looking like I was watching it all unfold on like threads and Insta comments and TikTok comments and like it was everywhere and everyone was like, oh my god, this leak is crazy, this audio is crazy, and so many fans are like, don't look, Andy, don't look when you wake up. And then when Andy Cahn woke up, he's like, I've seen it. He's replying to fans. He's like, I've seen it. I'm on my way to have eye surgery. Oh my way to ie surgery. He's like, I'm so disappointed, and this person will be found. So the audio itself, you listened to it, right.23:14Speaker 2 Yeah, In my favorite parties they do will have kind of different accents. So you're like, cool, that's siarah great. Yeah, oh you can se clearly.23:20Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess because they're sitting on a sound stage and they're micd So even though we'll get to how the recording happened, but like it's clear as day what everyone is saying. And so you hear Kyle kind of questioning West and Amanda. You hear Lindy another cast from the show who's like very outspoken and is a real kind of like tell the truth kind of person, sort of calling them out. You hear Wes just bumbling away like a slimeless and I don't dislike Wes, but like this a few years ago when he treated Sierra really badly, said he was in love with her, pursued her for a whole season. She finally kind of gave in to him. He's like, this is a nice guy. He took her to meet his family, and she has like a different relationship with her family. This is getting the weeds, and she was like, this is and she's like and also there's a huge racial element too, because Sarah was the first woman of color to be a main cast member on the show, and when she was with West, when the breakup happened, she got a lot of really racially charged hate against her. And then it's been a thing on the show of all the guys want to hook up with herb but that don't actually want to date her and be her girlfriend.24:21Speaker 3 And she's had to talk about the fact that and.24:23Speaker 1 She's like a real relationshippy girl. Yeah exactly. And she was like, you guys don't understand like the extra layer of like we all get fan criticism being on a reality TV show, but the extra layer of criticism and backlash that I get and the way people talk about me in the way I get treated, the way publications talk about me is so so so different.24:41Speaker 3 So West took her.24:42Speaker 1 To meet his family and then that was a big deal for her, as it would be for anyone, Like she's not crazy. She was like, Oh, this guy really likes me, and like all this happened off camera, so this was like a real relationship happening away from the camera. And then he broke up with her via an op ed in the New York Times.24:58Speaker 2 People need to stop doing New York Times opinions. I mean, because I love it, but like stop.25:02Speaker 1 Yeah.25:02Speaker 3 He was like, yeah, I just don't think that we were each other's person. That's okay.25:06Speaker 1 And then she was like, how about you tell me that before you go off and like give interviews about how I'm not your person anyway. So the rest of Summer House since Nan has been about them sort of coming back together, and here ty Win her back and just this week, as the audio leak was happening, they had a whole episode dedicated to them going off and having this really intense conversation and crying, and they ended up hugging and hugging and hugging and she was like, I think we can be best friends again.25:31Speaker 2 Do you think the producers went back and changed the season storyline potentially, yes, so that we got more of this, Yes.25:38Speaker 3 I think.25:39Speaker 1 I mean, yeah, it is hard to say, because they do have the footage for a long time, and they do like there is the potential to have it edited and had the whole season set before it comes out. I don't think they kind of show that's editing in like almost like real time to yeah, like it's me mass but yeah, exactly. It's not the kind of show where they're editing week to week. But the way that this last few episodes have been constructed with like so much on Western Sierra, but also so much on like how West and Amanda.26:07Speaker 2 Yeah, there was where she bought him a drink and I was like, this is suspicious.26:11Speaker 3 I know, Kyle's like right there, and I like all that poor silly beare.26:16Speaker 1 So yeah, potentially they have just added in I don't think they've changed like so much of what happened to storyline, because it is kind of set while they're filming, like they have producers coming over and tellme, like, now you guys are going to have an argument. You guys are going to do this, so we're going to film you guys together. But I do wonder if they added in a few more scenes because now that show has so many more eyes on it. So the audio came out, and so it's Kyle questioning them, it's Lindsay chiming In, It's Jesse Solomon, who's another cast member who was like really good friends with West chiming In. It's West being like, oh, the reason we put that statement out is because everything just blew up so fast, and like very famously last time Sierra confronted him about breaking up with her public and he just said nothing the whole time, like he he doesn't have a like a back bone when these things happen. The big kind of moment from this leaked audio that made it so explosive was like it really showed us the moment where Siara and Amanda have their confrontation.27:13Speaker 3 The audio kind of picks up where.27:14Speaker 1 Amanda is saying like, you can't help who you like, and you can't help what you do in this situation. And she was like, you know, I'm single, and Siah's like, you're not. You're still legally married. And then Amanda fires back to her, what was I supposed to do, like stay celibate until I get divorced, until a judge signs the papers.27:30Speaker 3 What was I supposed to do? Never date anyone?27:32Speaker 1 And then Siah's coming back and saying, but you didn't have to date like your friend's ex. And then she and this is a really explosive part, she goes, you are a sneak in the grass, Amanda, silent but deadly. You are a sneak, can you men?27:45Speaker 2 And it's amazing because Sierra's accent is so fucking delightful, Like, oh my god, I love when she speaks.27:50Speaker 3 She's on the South. Yeah, it's so good. Fair enough look for me.27:54Speaker 2 I don't think anything's ever going to top Ariana telling Rachel when scandal happened, like go fuck yourself with the cheese grater.28:00Speaker 3 That was crazy. So we haven't seen the whole reunion, but that is a.28:02Speaker 2 Close second, and it showed like I just think at the end of the day, like what we do remember but Alo sometimes forget is these are real people, yah, and this is happening in real time, Like that reunion was fresh after all of this happened, So like, I love that she got a moment to stand up for herself, but it's still just like and apparently.28:18Speaker 1 They did film for about ten hours, so that's like the clip itself is like forty seconds. Oh. The other thing that was confirmed that we talked about when this news first broke, which I always said, ikey of true and now it is true, is that Amanda said their hand was forced because an intimate video was taken. So there was always this rumor that the whole story broke because someone filmed her and West in his apartment like before they're about to have sex some while she was getting changed and they were talking about the video. So in this Amanda was saying, so she's like, I hadn't seen the video, but like we had to get a statement out before the video was released.28:50Speaker 3 And there's a rumor that.28:51Speaker 1 Ceria met with a fan who had the video. So that's all still to come.28:54Speaker 3 Yeah.28:55Speaker 1 So then everyone started questioning, well, who leaked the video? And first of all, or I turned to the cast of Summer House and everyone was trying to figure out who was sitting where, and they were like, it's it must have been kJ, who's like a new cast member came in his West friend now very off West in his team Sierra everyone, so you can tell by the sound the audio that it's kJ And someone's like, no, no, no, it's Jesse. When he talks, his voice is like a slightly different level to everyone else.29:21Speaker 3 And then everyone's like, no, no, no, it was Kyle.29:23Speaker 1 And then there was even a theory that went for a long time that it was Amanda and West who put it out because they.29:29Speaker 3 They would be a bad move.29:30Speaker 1 I mean, who would even know at this stage, but that was the story. Everyone's like, oh, West and Amanda have leaked it themselves. Was the room for a long time because they were unsure of how it was going to be edited together and where they would get a villain edit. And they thought that bit of them saying like, well, our hand was forced. A video was out there. We had to do this right. We like him saying like we had to get that statement at her saying like, well, you can't help her, you like would put them in a better favor than an edited version. So that all happened. All the different Summer House people were saying no it was and asked like all the cast members. Kyle Cook put up a video saying it wasn't him. And he also said like when we're filming these reunions, security on set is really tight, and you have your phone with you, it has to be turned off and like zipped into one of the couch cushions. So he's like, how would you even get it out without anyone scene to film it.30:17Speaker 2 I mean you could just pressure record before you went in, Kyle, but plot hole anyway.30:21Speaker 3 Well, I think they get checked that they're turned off.30:23Speaker 1 They're like everyone's phone turned off, like they like they've been doing this.30:26Speaker 3 For twenty years. Like you feel like if someone's gonna like it.30:29Speaker 1 Yeah, And he also said that all the hair and mancup people who come out and do the touch ups are locked dinner not locked. I'm sure they can go to the bathroom and get water. They get taken back to the makeup room. So then on set for filming and then they get brought out for touch ups. So he's like, so they couldn't record either, And then the roommate came out that it was potentially someone from production who there was like speakers in other rooms because you know, like you have the feedback in the audio and stuff that they had put a phone up against a speaker to recorders or hell broke loose.30:58Speaker 2 Yes, and like he was like, it's disgusting and illegal. Yeah, he was like intense, Oh my god, he was.31:04Speaker 1 So he was like, this person will be found and if it was you, like you know, watch exactly, and he's like, we don't tolerate this. And it was so funny because I saw so many people being like, oh my god, it wasn't even at the Summerhouse reunion and I'm getting nervous. That made me with me, Everyone's like, was it accidentally me? So then it came out. Then Bravo released the same and saying we got them, we found the person.31:27Speaker 3 That person, yeah, that person. Bravo haven't said yet, who know, they haven't said who it is.31:31Speaker 1 They said it wasn't anyone from the car, so they put that information in the official statement. They said it was someone within the production, but they haven't said who it is who took an illegal recording and that they are being dealt with, and that I asked, has anyone's seen this person again they get disappeared by Bravo. I wouldn't put a pass, bro, I don't if there's anyone I'm not crossing, it's freaking Andy Cohen. No. That man is like a mastermind and he does not take. He the one thing he doesn't take is like any kind of slander or anyone messing with his shows. Yeah. Sa Michell Geller the other day just said like, oh I don't like this new season and whatever Housewives she was watching, and he went online.32:04Speaker 3 He's like, how dare she like? He doesn't suffer it? Yeah?32:08Speaker 1 So yeah, God God rest that poor soul, who I'm assuming could be.32:12Speaker 2 Someone from Sound Productions. To me, all of it sounded pretty level. I know, people were really like, oh, it's also different. I just thought it all sounded like Mike pickup, yeah, which would indicate someone from Sound Probably.32:23Speaker 1 Well again this person who I'm gonna go ahead and allegedly is no longer with us. This person, apparently Andy said on his podcast Just that was released today that they had a team of investigators on it who were like forensically breaking down the different sound, Like this is how serious it is because also there's money, there's legal things and everything.32:43Speaker 2 I mean, if anything, I think this is going to get people to watch it. Oh but people already gonna watch it.32:48Speaker 3 Yeah.32:48Speaker 1 So apparently Andy said they found the culprit via like forensic investigation of sound. But also this is the thing, this is how crazy Bravo fans are, and like full respect to them and never cross them. Is that he said that the Bravo fan pages and like accounts everything were on it in such an extreme way, and they were passing on information about who the league was, Like they were zoning in on this person from like across the world in their fan groups. They were hunting this person down. And Andy's saying that a fan came forward with the crucial information, like they cracked the code a fan.33:20Speaker 3 What did a fan have?33:21Speaker 1 Well, he said, well, knowing we'll know soon, but we don't know now. A fan figured it out and passing information onto Andy Cohen, which allowed this person, who I'm assuming is down de ceased. I'm just like, I'm assuming it's own deceased to be caught and dealt with by the proper authorities within Bravo, because Bravo's a self servicing world, whereas I feel like they don't. They have their own rules of how to.33:42Speaker 3 Deal with people.33:42Speaker 1 Do you think they're going to need like a reunion for the reunion because Andy's gonna have to give us like a four part series A they edit that freaking union down to two hours when they have ten hours of footage. God help me, Andy Cohen, I'll leak something myself.33:54Speaker 2 But you know, well you wouldn't know because you don't really want ch ows wives. But you know, like on Housewives, when there's like a throwback, it's like black and white and like the camera's always shaky. Yeah, and there's that really specific like Hou's Wives and music it's like d and then like I just am picturing that. But if someone listening to audio waves, they have to have filmed the investigation.34:13Speaker 3 Oh, I mean god, I hope. So yeah.34:15Speaker 1 Now the question just remains why did they do it? Because yes, the simplest and always I guess the main reason for everything is money. But also no one outlet leaked it as a e exclusive. It just was like disseminated to a bunch of outlets, so did all those outlets pay? But also that couldn't be tracked, so did this person not get any money? The theory is that they did it because they didn't want Amanda in West. This is getting in the weed because everyone's like those producers work with these people for years and they feel betrayed as well, and they didn't want Amanda and West to get a good edit, and they didn't want them to be protected the way they potentially could have been, because Amanda is in another rapin off show and potentially Wester is as well, and so they wanted people to see how they really were in the reunion.34:58Speaker 3 I don't know.34:58Speaker 2 That's a prodlicting story, yeah, because ones like Western Amanda wanted to get it out to show that good people, and the other is like, no, they're awful and we're going to prove it.35:05Speaker 3 Yeah, so we.35:07Speaker 1 Don't know yet, but like there's a lot of theories around. But anyway, that is a summer house leak.35:12Speaker 2 I didn't think it could get any worse last week, Like I thought we were at the peak.35:16Speaker 1 It's not airing the Ringion for a few more weeks. 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With The Devil Wears Prada back on the big screen, we've been completely fixated on Andy's transformation from “frumpy” assistant to head-to-toe haute couture. It has sent us straight down a rabbit hole of the greatest makeover sequences cinema has ever given us.Because here's the thing. Yes, they're a little problematic, unhinged in their logic, and we are not even slightly sorry about how much we love them.We're breaking down the most monumental movie makeovers, why they've aged the way they have, and why we completely lose our minds every time the dramatic music plays and the transformation is revealed. Speaking of iconic makeover scenes, listen to our Brutally Honest Review of Clueless here. 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Welcome to this spill your daily pop culture fixed. I'm Laura Brodneck and I'm Tita Previs, and we have a very special episode for you today, one that I have been dying to do for so long because this is a special interest area of mind. So I'm so glad you're here for my moment that I got to share with you. We are doing the best movie makeover scenes that yes, might be seen as problematic, but we desperately love them. I love them. What do you think they're problematic? Well? I think well, I'm just gonna take my feminist hat off and put it in the corner. I'm gonna actually put it outside the studio, pick it up later on the way out, because I guess these like these movie makeover montages that have become such a big part of in particular romantic comedies. One is obviously we're both going to share our favorite ones. We don't know what the other person's going to say, but I'm assuming you don't have any men on your list, because I don't have any men on my lise. 00:53Speaker 2 You do, I do, But how rare is that it's rare, And that's why exactly exactly exactly. 01:00Speaker 1 So all the makeover scenes in movies, especially wrong cooms, always happen to women, and they always famously go one way. More men should be having makeups. Yeah, let's make it see men, I know. But if you rubits have tried to do that, has it really landed? I just mad it every day? Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, absolutely real mount the Street, let's make them over. I think it's a famous shell queer right. Well, these makeovers always go one way, so that's I think that's where the kind of problematic issue has come over the years is that the woman always comes out, she's always like tenned, she always has like a ton of makeup on, she gets her glasses taken off, even if see without them, always wearing like skimpier clothing. Like it's a very like kind of like sexualized bombshell kind of look that every woman gets made over to in these movies in order to kind of achieve the life that she wants. So if you look at it through that lens, slightly problematic. But we're not doing that today because movie makeover scenes have made up the broke of pop culture for so long, and there's so many movies that are made around these scenes or these ideas, and they were always the scenes that we used in marketing so famously in Suddenly thirty they had like done the script and shot half the movie, and the studio was like looking at the dailies and looking at the script and they're like, you have to put a makeover montage in here for the trailer. Otherwise formula is otherwise we can't sell this movie. What the hell are you doing. So the reason we're doing this today, I do have a reason for this before we get into our picks, is that it is The Devil Wears prior to two week. Yeah, the movie is actually coming out this week on the thirtieth of April, and the first movie has an incredible makeover moment which Andy goes into the fashion closet with nigelnic He pulls a poncho for which we never wear it see her wear. And then that is such a catalyst for the film because it's how we see her lean into her career and how she gets taken seriously, and that we have that incredible montage of all the different looks that she wears down the streets, different coats and hats into the office. You have a favorite one. 03:01Speaker 3 From that montage, all of the looks are always so good, and I think because you do have that contrast for like her own style at the start to all of those looks, like you can't just pick one, and then from there on out it just gets like better and better. 03:15Speaker 1 The fun better and better and better. 03:16Speaker 3 Yeah. 03:16Speaker 1 From that makeover montage we first see her like the green coat means the winner, but also the brown snakeskin coat when she walks into the building, which is how I want to be dressing this season. So off the back of the Devil Wears prior to two cinemas April thirty, we're gonna be sharing with each other our favorite movie makeover moments. Do you want to kick us off? So we haven't shared yet. I don't know what you're gonna say. It's going to be surprise. I'm interesting how a man weaseled his way in there, so like a man. It's like, we have one thing and it's been overly sexualized and made over in movies and then men want to take it away from us. 03:47Speaker 3 So I'm staying on the Anne Hathaway train. 03:49Speaker 2 Oh yeah, and I'm going with Princess Darry It wouldn't be Yes Complete the Makeover Podcast EP if we didn't have this one in there, I feel like it. It's so iconic unless you're living under a rock. Everybody has seen Princess Staris. It's one of my favorite movies growing up. And we follow Mia Thermopolis played by Anne Hathaway, and she finds out that she's actually a princess, which is what I thought was gonna happen to me. I'm still waiting for a letter behind estranged relative in her country. And she pretty much undergoes this whole transformation on her path to becoming a princess, and they enlist a stylists. 04:27Speaker 1 She pretty much just. 04:28Speaker 2 Takes her glasses off, straightens her hair and like has her nails done. 04:32Speaker 1 Like there's really not much more to it. Oh see. I actually think out of all the movie makeover is this one they actually go through quite a drug etiquette, has the etiquette training and that whole thing. But also I think they actually do quite change, Like she looks drastically different. Some makeover segne like you just took off her glasses and put a lipstick on, whereas this one it's like completely like her hair because I think she's got like a crazy wig on when she is playing Mia in the early movies. The glass has always changed things, but the makeup is so intense, the skin sort of stuff. 05:00Speaker 2 How she they pluck her eyebrows, They're like really like whacking those off. But again on the slightly problematic end, because it did really like reinforce you know, curly like frizzy hair being like a little bit messy and untamed, and like, I deep dove into Reddit and there are so many people on the Internet who you know, said how much it really affected them and it led them to like chronically straighten their hair for like ten years. 05:25Speaker 1 Okay, I didn't know there was like the dark side of the Princess Diaries. 05:28Speaker 3 We have Minisha producer Nisha in the studio. 05:31Speaker 2 Who was saying that this had a little bit of an impact on her and her. 05:34Speaker 1 And she never curled her hair again. Wow, No, she has curly hair. She straightens it. No, No, I know, is that right? 05:42Speaker 3 She's nodding, She's she's no. 05:44Speaker 1 I didn't realize that your hair looked like that. Because of the wrath of Anne Hathaway. Wow and Hathaways actually come out recently. Anne Hathaway's commented on Yeah public apology. 05:56Speaker 2 She recently spoke to people off the back of the recent press she's been dewey and shared her one regret from her time on the film. So her natural hair is actually straight, so they had to create that contrast for that makeover scene, that moment, so they gave me a really curly hair. And you know, she has regrets around people thinking that they were saying curly hair is unattractive, which is obviously terrible, and like she says, it was an unintended side effect. It was just in order to make it easier and post and you know, have that massive transformation moment. But it's so significant that it's actually something. Now in twenty twenty six, she's had to come out and dress. 06:32Speaker 1 Oh and no, And can I just say, you don't need to apologize. Do you have curly hair? You'r okay, no, we don't get it. I would love curly hair because I cut my hair all the time because I have dead straight, flat hair. Yeah, And I always feel like I'm the same the unattractive thing. And I would love to have people like especially like in rom com there's some wrong comms, like in How Lose a Guy? In Ten Days, where Kate Hudson's character Andy famously has straight hair, yes, but as she falls in love, her hair goes curly. Have you sadnything online of like girls in love have curly hair? 06:58Speaker 2 Yeah? 06:58Speaker 1 I have, yeah, And I was like, obviously I've been in love because my hair is straight, straight, So you can literally find anything. I'm just gonna say, Anne Hathaway, you don't apologize for that. It's okay. We don't speak on behalf of the curly girls. We well, no, no, I think that that's the fault of the movie, not Anne Hathaway. Yes, yes, And I also think that out of all the things that we have to sort of look at, that that one's okay. I'm not disregarding the feelings of curly head girls. I just don't think Anne Hathaway personally should take on that emotional birth. 07:24Speaker 3 No, it's not for her. She can we forgive you, Anne, it's not you. 07:27Speaker 1 We don't have to five. But that is such a pivotal moment, that scene, because everything about that movie plays and to wish fulfillment, and that is like also the biggest wish for filment as an adult but also as a teenager. That you're just kind of one step away from looking beautiful, that someone could take you in a room and they could do all these things. And also then her life does open up in this crazy way. Yes, because she's become a princess, but also because she looks like this ideal beauty, she becomes popular. Yeah, everybody likes her. The guy shet to like her, and are they're really careful to caveat that he always liked her. 08:00Speaker 2 Yeah, and it wasn't the makeover. Yeah, I was actually really don't do that as much watching it last night. And she just ignores him for like the whole first part of the movie. 08:09Speaker 3 He literally is like, you're attractive, and she just doesn't even like. 08:12Speaker 1 Well, that's the whole thing of these movies, too, is that they pedal this thing that everyone's secretly beautiful they just don't know it. And for a lot of us, and they put me in that category. No, fine, that's fine, there's no there's no little trick of like, if she just took her glasses off, or if she just took her hair out, she would be so beautiful and she just doesn't know it. 08:30Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't wear glasses. What's the next straight. 08:33Speaker 1 I wear my hair on every day. There's no way a man can take out my ponytail, and I'll instantly be beautiful. What is left? So good? Okay, before we move on to my next one. Are you excited for Princess Diaries three? Or you're upset about it? People different came. I'm excited because Princess Diary is too wildly a great movie. All the sequels out there, I think they're both great. 08:52Speaker 2 I think Anne is great, and if she wants to be involved in it, I know she'll want to do it right. 08:57Speaker 1 So super excited. 08:58Speaker 2 It's such a part of my child would I watched that movie rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat. 09:03Speaker 1 It was one of those ones I was always. 09:04Speaker 2 Watching, even the nos Soldier, like, even if it's not better than one and two, I'm here for it. 09:12Speaker 1 Okay, So the movie Makeover I'm going to talk about now. I picked because it has my favorite reveal like When You Had. It has everything it has, like the big reveal, the reaction, the build up, the song, the song choice and maker. I realize every nearly every makeover Picked has an iconic song that sort of had new life in it because of the movie moment and this is an iconic comedy from the year two thousand, a great year for m comms. Miss Congeniality. Oh oh my god. 09:42Speaker 3 I can't what but like I would have been really really young. 09:46Speaker 1 Okay, you need to watch this is just movies. I just assumed everyone has seen I didn't. I didn't see it. I was like in not pro I was probably in high school. I did even know. Anyway, I didn't see the movies, but I just remember what. It's one of those ones where I just remember, like I know of it. I mean, we're probably had on a VHS and I just watched it over and over and over again. Oh my god. It holds up so well. I mean, no, it's problematic as hell, but that's fine. That's fine. But our feminist is outside. Actually yeah, it's actually out the window. I've thrown it. No, no, it's not problematic, and like, there's actually nothing so super bad in it. They'll just be little things. But anyway, as a movie, ten out of ten holds it so well. You need to watch it. You'll love it. Don't watch the sequel. Okay, the sequel's frodden. Sandra Bullock went through Who is the lead of this movie, Sandra Brook went through a time where she made two really regrettable sequels, Speed Too. I don't watch that. I never watch I've loved Speed Speed. Yeah. The second one, she's on a boat, and even she was like, that was a mistake because the boat. They're like, the boat's going so fast because the boat can go anywhere, because it's a cruise ship. It can't go the world. Yeah, it's fine. And Miss Congenality Too not great, but Miss Congeniality a perfect movie. So Sandra Bullet plays an FBI agent called Graasy Heart, and she's like really schlubby and gross, like yeah, that's the perfect kind of word for her. She wears like an ill fitting, like cheap suit which is always like crinkled, food stained. She's got really frizzed. They really frizzed her hair hair same thing. She's just hair like and she looks terrible. And so there's been a threat against the Miss USA pageant. So a lot of it set in a beauty pageant, and they need someone to go undercover in the pageant as a beauty queen to like stop the threat. And they go. They have this computer program that they go through all the women the FBI, and it renders them what they would look like, which is a bit weird down to think of what they would look like like, what their bodies would look like. And Sandra looks gracy heart is the only one when they like, they think she's like, they think she's ugly, even though it makes a deep fake of them. And I was like, wow, that technology came true twenty years later and we used it for evil. Yeah, and then because not all the boys and Benjamin Bratt plays like one of the FBI agents, true who's like the hot sexy guy friends. It's a real Benjamin Bratt moment in the early two thousands. You might not know because you're a child, but he was like the romantic lead in so many movies and Julia Roberts was madly in love with him and they were getting married and it was a whole thing. So that, yes, this is peak Benjamin Bratt era. That moment passed, We're still in peak Sandra Bullock era, so that moment is still here. So she is the only one that can go under cover, but they're just like, look at her. She's so ugly and she's a mess. And she is also she's like an ultimate tomboy and she doesn't want to do it. So that's the difference too, is that in this movie she is so against she's scene, whereas a lot of other movies women are like, yes, please give me a makeover, which is also fine. So they bring in Michael Caine. Michael Caine one of it. Do you know who my yes is? Okay, you literally shocked, but I'm just thinking of him giving a makeover. Yeah, no, I know, that's why and one of the most like he's such an esteemed serious yea, but he And the thing is this cast. It's like Benjamin Bratt, Sandra Bullock, Candice Bergen, Michael Caine, William Shatner, like all of these incredible actors in this movie. And this is why romcoms works so well then, because this was a huge studio release with all these like Oscar factors, Like we was just a throw away. It wasn't like a throwaway watches on a Friday night in Netflix and forget about it. They like approached this like it was Shakespeare, like these people exactly. They approached it like it was Shakespeare. And that is the way to make a romantic comedy. Anyway. So Gracie Heart then has to they have to bring in Michael Kaine's character, who is like a deportment expert like etiquette, also trains people for the pageants. He's also like a pageant cope, and he is revolted by Gracie Heart when he meets her, absolutely revolted. And the fun thing about it is like nobody just so like he's just literally like this, what is like a cow. She's disgusting, And Sandra Bullock is so good like her physical comedy. Like the first scene is they're meeting together having lunch in a restaurant and he is just looking at her with this intense disgust on his face in a way that only Michael Caine can and she's like ripping into this food and all swapping down her face like with her frizzy with her frizzy hair, the ultimate cry. And Sandra Bullock said that she really leant into really wanting to make Gracy like as unattractive as she could so that the makeover scene paid off. So she was really behind the scenes pushing like no, let's have food in her teeth when like when we first meet her, like let's have like her clothes be kind of really disheveled, like she she walks around really hunched over. And Sandra Bilok also said that it was so funny because it only took like less than an hour in the makeup chair to make her look like Gracy pre makeover, but then she had to spend like three or four hours in the makeup chair for Gracie afterwards, just to even in the scenes where she's just walking around just to look like a normal woman. Yeah, and I was like, I love that. Even Sandra Bulok is like, it takes four hours to make me look like a natural Sandra Bok. So the stakes of this maker is so high because the FBI is involved. They're like, how do we make this ugly woman beautiful? So they get this like literal warehouse, like a huge warehouse, and it's full of like the tanners, the waxes, the beauty maker everywhere is this place. I know, I want to grab me out. Well, this is like that, Like it's so funny because it's like this is what it takes a woman look beautiful. It's like we have the whole FBI army making literally taking over what looks like an army base. That's so fair, like this huge bunker and they go in there and they have to like wax her and tan her and all this stuff, and she's hating and you never see it. And then you see Benjamin Bratt and his like crew on the outside with the plane like waiting to fly her to the pageant to like get her in, like where is she? Where is she? And all of a sudden, the big bunker door like slides open and Mustang Sally starts playing I Got It and it's just the best. It's one of the best movie music moments in history. And it's a cover of Mustang Sally. So they did a cover of it, and Sandra Bullock played the tambourine, I think because she's like just want to be involved, yeah, just wants to be part of it. So and there's a slow motions shot and then Sandra Bullock as Gracie Hart walks out. You have to, I mean, don't watch this until you watch the movie because a bigger moment. Again, it's so sexist but so good. I love it so much. And the camera pans up super slowly over her body and she all of a sudden, she's tan, she's shiny, she's wearing a purple mini dress. Love her hair of course straight, it's straight straight, it's straight straight as an ironing board, like literally not a hair out of place, and her hair's all glowy. And Benjamin Brat, like his character, I'm just using his knee because that's how people are. It just rips his sunglasses off in and his jaw drops open and everyone around him is like, oh my god. And she's strutting and then she just falls straight over. And before that she has an iconic line about like I haven't done this, I haven't eaten doped mess with me, and then she just topples over because she can't walk in heels. She's so real for that. Yeah, and it's just such a huge moment. And obviously, like later on when her and Benjamin Brad's characters fall in love, it's very much they fall in love because like their personalities, but it's also because she's super hot now. 16:51Speaker 3 Yes, because she had the purple dress, and then she has to. 16:53Speaker 1 Go through the Miss America pageant, right, which is again it's so the comedy is just so. 17:00Speaker 3 She's great, like it's funny. 17:03Speaker 1 I think that's the role she should have won. An Oscar for I know they don't like to give oscars to comedy actresses, but there's so many good one liners that she delivers, and her physical comedy is so good. Oh my god, you're gonna love it. Okay, you're gonna love it. I've watch it. I can't believe I was sole jealous of you. They get your torch it for the first time. 17:18Speaker 2 I think I've watched a lot of things, but when I'm under the age of ten, like. 17:23Speaker 1 I just feel like that's a movie that gets referenced all the time, that's still in the conversation. So I would sort of believe that more for movies that fall out of the conversation, but that's still at anyway, you get to watch it, so please and report back on your next on the next time you're on the pod. But yeah, that to me, that stands out as the biggest reveal of a make over and the biggest and also the fact that a lot of other makeover scenes are just like, I don't know, we can get one stylist in someone's bedroom and we're just like, but this is like, no, no, this is an industrial fispiration to make a normal woman look like the ideal of a woman. And you know what, I love it so much, this congeniality. If anyone else has watched it? All right? 18:01Speaker 3 Next on my list another movie that I rinsed to death. 18:04Speaker 2 I used to sit in front of my TV with the lyrics book because it is spoiler a musical. 18:09Speaker 1 Okay it's grace, Oh okay, yes, I love my god. Watching this as a kid, all I wanted to do was be a sexy Sandy And I'm so far from all of that. But all I wanted to do was wear leather pants and strut around. Yeah, which would I worked for me? 18:24Speaker 2 Carnival, Yeah, they're all like thirty years old as well, exactly, so many like I don't know about you, but I again, watch that movie as a kid, over and over again, all of the references straight over my head. 18:36Speaker 1 Didn't realize what a hickey from Kinnicky was now, didn't realize about the whole like having sex in the back of the cars, didn't realize that a pregnancy scarab was what she was worried about. Literally, no idea, just like the songs really exactly. And you know what, like kids watch sexy movies. 18:51Speaker 2 So my dad loves Grease yeah, so that's how I was like introduced to me. 18:54Speaker 3 So we always watch it when I was younger. 18:56Speaker 2 But I think it has one of the most iconic transformation make overs but also a little bit controversial. So obviously we follow the lives of Danny played by John Travolta, and then we have the lovely Olivia Newton John as Sandy, who's like this very clean cut, cutesy good girl, and Danny's this bad boy, like grease up completely opposite. 19:18Speaker 1 World ultimate like Romeo and Juliet story, like they come from different worlds. How could they ever be together? Could they ever? 19:25Speaker 3 We'll tell you how. 19:27Speaker 2 All it takes is a pair of leather pants and a red lip, according to sandrew D. So she walks out in the final like scene sequence, they've you know, had a little bit of push and pull this whole time. 19:38Speaker 1 So they both go to. 19:39Speaker 2 These I don't want to say extreme lengths because all Danny does to change himself for Sandy's put on like a little lettermon jacket, like a little nit jacket. That's all he does, which I feel shows the extent of effort that like men are going to change for us. 19:51Speaker 1 Yes, that's so true. There's such a good lesson in Greece that modern women. 19:55Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then obviously Sandy shows up in these insane leather pants. It's beautiful, like off the shoulder, black top, red lip, she's got this bold like curly hair, actually doing it for. 20:07Speaker 1 The color girl God. So actually it's a so debunked. We have been raised our whole lives to think that Grease is actually anti feminist, because it's feminist. The initial kind of message that we took away from the movie was this movie is telling us you have to change yourself for a man, and that's bad. But actually, what we've uncovered today is that it's actually a feminist plot because she's saying curly hair can actually curly hair is. But while curly, did you ever have Like I used to be obsessed with grease And then I got my mum to get me these like old school not even get me. I think they were my moms from like when she was a kid, these like old school hot rollers, And I would hot roll to look like Sandy, and I thought it looked so chic when I was like eleven, and looking back now, I did look like a poodle. Yeah, that was me. With the red lip. Yes, it never worked really for me. 20:50Speaker 2 It's giving dancers steadfast, but I gave it, gave it a go. 20:54Speaker 1 I still do it red lip. I still do black leather and a red but you rock a red lip. I'm just I'm just sandy on the Yes, we. 21:00Speaker 2 All have a little bit of sty but yeah, I think it definitely is a little bit of. 21:03Speaker 1 A feminist like move. 21:04Speaker 2 A lot of people can say, you know, she's changing for Danny, but I think what we see is, you know, she's like leaning into her confidence and like it's like a bold yea. 21:12Speaker 1 Well, because you can take it either way, you can take it. You're right that she's becoming who she wants to be. But that's the thing feminists like, these makeover scenes are always wrapped up and like, no, she's empowering herself, and it's like no, no, no, she's dressing for the male gaze and that's fine. 21:27Speaker 3 Who she chose to do it, but only. 21:30Speaker 1 Because she felt desperate that he would leave her. But again, who amongst us hasn't dressed for the male kase? Exactly? 21:35Speaker 2 Guilty, It's a time and a place exactly. 21:41Speaker 1 Right, is exactly. But again, I just can't hold that in my head. When I watch gree it's like I'm aware that it's there. I'm aware of this idea and it's a different time, and it's got the best like mic drop moment of like like literally like the whole carnival turns to her and then she has that iconic clim when she has tell me about it. Stud. So also she's smoking. 22:02Speaker 3 She doesn't know how to smoke. 22:03Speaker 1 But she's doing it. I'm looking friends, how do I put it? That's just a good moment. Oh my god, Olivia Neton John is so good. So again, it's sexualizing dressing from man, it's sexualizing like like smoking and like that bad girl. But I don't even care because you know what, smoking does look sexy on screen? It does. Don't do it, don't do it. 22:20Speaker 3 But sometimes it looks chic on the screen. 22:22Speaker 1 Yeah, it always always looks cheek on screen. 22:25Speaker 2 Now, they do have this like fairy tale ending they get into a convertible when they fly off into the sky. 22:29Speaker 3 But there are actually a lot of fan theories. 22:32Speaker 1 Are you gonna say that they're dead? 22:36Speaker 2 So basically there are theories that when they fly off into the sky that they actually passed away and that Sandy actually died from the very first scene where they're first on the beach, because Danny when he's singing someer love and there's a line where he said, you know, she almost drowned. 22:54Speaker 1 I saved her. 22:55Speaker 2 So it turns out, according to this theory, that she in fact drowned, and then we enter this like homo fantasy for the entirety of the whole film, and that's how they're flying off in the end. 23:09Speaker 1 I have heard that theory that this is all Sandy's, Like, this all happened in the moment she died, and this is what living through like living through those moments is that she fantasized going to school with Danny and then falling in love and stuff. But it's very intense and also like none of the screenwriters have said that's true. But I love I love when like a theory for like a really old school movie like this just takes it takes. 23:29Speaker 3 Over a life of its own, like people run rampant with it. 23:33Speaker 2 I hate to disappoint anyone that thinks they're dead, but the creator has since come out and said. 23:38Speaker 1 That that's absolutely it's not the case. They're not dead. 23:41Speaker 2 Also, there's so many like fantasy moments in the film I just love to grab on exactly. 23:46Speaker 1 Well, I guess I just want to explain why the calf flies at the end. It's not even a good theory though, the calf flies at the end because it's a movie and things happen in movie music and that's fine. But no, that's a great make over scene. Love that, And it does go to show that if you're having problems relationship, if you put on a pair of black leather pants, they will go away. 24:03Speaker 2 Oh and apparently they had to show them onto her body so tight. 24:06Speaker 3 It's so tight their vintage Yeah, oh love. 24:09Speaker 1 Okay, the next one I'm going to bring up is the most realistic movie makeover I have ever seen, so in a way that it's actually quite a feminist makeover. Again, not that that matters, we're putting that out the window. Bring the hat back in dress. No, no, the hat's on the doorn on. It's not all the way back in the room dress for the male gaze. It's fine in a movie, But this one I always think is like a beautiful way of watching, like seeing a makeover happen really really slowly, and having it be part of the character's evolution in a way that just feels so real. And this makeover scene is from the two thousand and two classic My Big Fat Greek Wedding. Oh have you seen it? Yeah? No I haven't. Yeah, what a great movie? 24:50Speaker 2 Right? 24:50Speaker 1 The is not to speak The first one is the first one I would say is a perfect movie. So in this if anyone hasn't seen it. Nina the Dallas, who also wrote and produced and created the movie, plays Tula and John Corbett our favorite rom com boyfriend. John Corbet's just in every room. Yeah, they just throw him in and he always. 25:11Speaker 2 Works once they get one good one. I feel like it just becomes a role like everyone's boyfriend. 25:16Speaker 1 He just has that vibe and like movies have been like and parts of been like created and written for him, like him playing Aiden Sex and the City. They created like a lot of that role for him. And also the rom com starring Kate Hudson Raising Helen. Have you seen that? Oh you should watch it? Really got it to listen, where she plays a model agent who her sister passes away and she has to like raise her children. John Corbett plays her love interest in that, and I remember like listening to director being like, well, but why would she fall it? Because she's like this beautiful New York like styler that everyone loves. Why would she fall in love with the high school principle like we have to give him something? And then they looked at him like he's John Corbett. Yeah, that's his thing. That's it. We don't have to add anything. Fine, And when you watch the movie, you're like, yeah, I get it. So John Corbett plays Ian Miller and so the story is actually have such a vivid memory of seeing this movie for the first time because it's one of those movie experiences that stays in my head forever because it came out when I was like just starting high school and one of my really good friends in high school is Greek, and so they held like a screening, like the Greek community in Townsville, like the Greek Community Center held a screening as like a fundraising thing, and so we all went to that, and yeah, it was the best way to see it because there's a whole cinema full of Greek people and so they were screaming the joke person and it was just like the vibe was so high. Also, like the characters in this speak Greek, and so they would say a joke and they would all laugh, and then the subtitles will pop up and then like the non Greek s bea because we would all laugh and we're like, oh, we got it now, Like that is really funny. So I Sultays remember it as being like this really joyful experience. So Tula is like an adult. They sort of say her age, like she's like probably in her late twenties, but like in the like you know, Greek household, like super old, unmarried, no children, a pariah of a family, if you will. And she works in like the restaurant, and like she lives with her parents, and her life is so small and everyone's just like she's so frumpy, and you know, all that sort of stuff. And then slowly over time she decides to start kind of changing her life, not on a huge scale, in a way that feels so beautiful relatable in terms of like she goes and takes some computer courses at like a community college, and she's and she then gets a job outside of the family, so she kind. 27:26Speaker 2 Of a second coming of Age's definitely. 27:30Speaker 1 Was really small looking at her parents house and she goes to work in another family business where she's like out you know, by herself in the office. And during all this she gives herself like a little makeover that's peppered through this montage, but it's more so like she'll just wear like instead of wearing like the overly frumpy clothes she was wearing, she just buys herself like a nice dress and a matching cardigan, and then you see her like try and like like do her eyebrows and she puts like just a little bit of lipstick on and like she's like and again the frizzy hair is the frizzy hazel thing, but she does straightened, but it's not pinned straight. She just kind of smooths it and stulls like she put rollers in it. And it's this beautiful, quiet, little makeover that she just does to herself. 28:11Speaker 2 And I think that's what makes it, Yeah, that it's something that she found in herself and like exploring your like your own identity and like finding who you are verse like having the FBI coming it. 28:22Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. When you put the two makeover scenes here that I brought up, it's like one is like, yeah, fifty people in like a government funded bunker trying to make Sandra Bullock look like a woman. And then the other one is just a woman at home in her childhood bedroom, just putting on a little bit of lipstick like Tula, just like you know, and she puts on a card again, and the thing is it just changed all of a sudden, she just feels like herself. And I think this is why it's one of my favorite movie makeovers, is that she hasn't done this too, Like she hasn't met Ian Miller yet, so she hasn't done this for a man. She hasn't even done it with the idea that she could possibly meet a man, because she's still working in like the family business. It's more so that as she kind of got a little bit of education and stepped outside of like the tightness of her family, left her bedroom and just kind of fell like, well, likely she's just prings so much time there. Now she's out in about the world, and all of a sudden, she just becomes the person that she wanted to be. Like it feels like it feels like it's actually the only movie makeover I can think of where it feels like it's just for the Carroc. 29:17Speaker 3 And it's happened before they've met the guy. 29:19Speaker 1 And it's not serving the plot, Like, no one's saying like you have to have makeover so you can be the price of the princes. You could be the prompt get the guy exactly. This is just for her and it's so beautiful and so small and quiet, and she doesn't look She looks different at the end of the movie than she does at the start, but not drastically drastically different. She does take her glasses off on my context is that scene of her trying to contacts. Had to put that in there, exact, had to get it in there. So basically it's like less frizzy hair, no contacts, a cardigan, and some nice lipstick, but not as extreme as other makeovers. And so then she's so happy because she's educated herself. She's working in an office and then Ian Miller played by John Corbett just happens to walk by and sees her get stuck in the headset headset. She tries to get up, and he goes into a travel agent and they chat and they just have this beautiful like courtship courtship is the correct word, where they fall in love but then when they get engaged, huge controversy. He's not Greek and her family unaccepted him. This movie has if anyone hasn't seen it, I cannot recommend it enough because the one liners are so good, Like when they get engaged and she takes him over to her big family gathering. He's like family dinner, like five people, She's like, no, fifty five and they say, like, he doesn't eat meat. I like to put that line in here. It's so good, and just like the lead up to their wedding and everything, and I just like even with her wedding, like she looks gorgeous, but it's never this idea of it. She has to be like overly made up. She looks like a completely different person. So I just think if there's like one movie makeover scene that kind of really changes that formula and makes it like part of the story. It's my big, fat, great wedding and tulla And you know, sometimes okay to put on a nice cardigan and some lipstick and go work in the family travel agency and you'll meet John Corbett. That is quite and that's a lesson. Sometimes it's okay to do all do all those things. Yeah, well, I think the biggest thing is she gets a macover while she goes to community college and gets an education. As we know, that is the thing that will say she three exactly so maybe fair great wording. Love it so much? 31:15Speaker 2 All right, we've come to the man, the man make Yes, it's crazy stupid love. 31:22Speaker 1 Oh my god, yes, okay. 31:24Speaker 2 Steve Carell, he plays col Cow's life is falling apart. His wife has left him. He's trying to get back out into dating. He's hopeless. He's quite a bit of a dig. He's in a bar and he runs into this really cool womanizer obviously played by none other than Ryan Gosling because who else. 31:42Speaker 1 Could and the best supporting actor his abs. Oh my god, they should be in the credits one hundred and they get a whole scene with Emma Stone's character dedicated and not only did he work out for months to get them, but they had like special makeup artists, like because you again, those makeup artists have to come in and do the shading and the bronzing and like draw them on. But they're also just there. They're almost too much like when she sees it, when when like Emmaston's character season and she's like, those are photoshops. I don't think I want to be with someone with apps like that A good look up close and just see them just from just to know what the muscles would look like. But I don't need to feel like that's a violation. 32:19Speaker 3 But for those who are watching the bar is imagining. 32:22Speaker 1 Feeling that's going to put me on a watch list somewhere. But yes, we have a male makeover. 32:30Speaker 2 Isn't interesting like flip on the script of like what we usually expect because it's the woman kind of going through the midlife crisis here where she's had an affair and now the man is like having this like makeover off the back of it. So he goes on this like there's like this three minute makeover montage where they like change all of his outfits. He's learning how to like speak to women, getting all the tips and then putting into the practice. 32:54Speaker 1 It's just like not something you expect either. 32:56Speaker 2 For like Steve Carell, he does it so well because he's just not someone you expect to be like hitting up the ladies in a bar. 33:03Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like that is so true that he gets a makeover. But the reason I didn't come into my head when we're talking aout makeover is is that even though he does get a makeover, it's nowhere near his extreme as some of these other makeover scenes with women. I guess with men, there's only so much you can do once you sort of wax them because their hair of shorts is not that curly. You can't have that. You don't have the curly plotline. And I guess that he didn't have glos. They should have put him in glasses. He did look very like dad because then they could no, he does look different. Like it's a good makeover scene, but I'm just saying it doesn't have like the kind of and they don't have a montage, right, that's a mistake they should have had. They do like a full musical montage. 33:41Speaker 2 There wasn't a musical montage, but they do go through like a number of like designer clothes. There's a really funny quote where like Ryan Gosling's character is looking Steve Crorer up and down and he's like, are you Steve Jobs the founder of Apple? No, then you can't wear those to his shoes And basically the whole goal is like for Steve Carell's character to be better than the gap. 34:00Speaker 1 Oh my god. And I have a vivid memory of him like being really repulsed by his wallet and again not thinking of wallet be part of a makeover. But I guess for a guy, especially it is and the fact that it has Velcrow and I think it was like I was a kid while watching at the time, or I was like, oh my, Walter has Velcrow's cute. And I also wasn't the sexy man out in the streets. But if I wanted to be, I had the wrong wallet. Is a little bit of an egg. 34:22Speaker 2 What would you do if you were on a date with a man without he's got coins? 34:26Speaker 1 They're like jingling around. Well, oh my god, would I break up with a man if he had a Velcrow wallet? Something to think about on this if you're on the Sydney dating scene, kind of say that potentially that's gonna happen, and that's not even the worst thing. 34:38Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't think I would break up with him if they had. I wouldn't either I have a wallet for their birthday, Yeah, I. 34:44Speaker 1 Would, just especially because every time you do the rip with a Velcrow wallet, it's so loud and intense. It is it's an announcement. Yeah, and you're just like I'm opening my velcro point and there's no Yeah, that's some folded in here, and you're trying to like pull like straighten the money out because it's been folded in there. 35:00Speaker 2 Actually still have yours exactly exactly. 35:02Speaker 1 Well, I think I am one of the last team in the world who has a wallet that I. 35:05Speaker 2 Lost my wallet and now I've lost all my cards, like I get all scattered around the house. 35:09Speaker 1 Okay, no, no, no, you need it just PSA. Everyone gives me so much shit for having a wallet, but when we can, I just tell you. When someone needs a physical card or something, who do they turn to me? Who's got a wallet? It's got an emergency hair tie in it, it's got emergency cash in there. 35:21Speaker 2 So basically, get rid of your wallet if you don't want anyone to ask you for anything, yeah, exactly. 35:25Speaker 1 Or if you're going through a makeover, exactly exactly. If you're going through a makeover, that's the first thing change. Yeah. 35:30Speaker 2 I just love crazy stupid love, though obviously follows the lives of like lots of different love stories that are all like interconnected, but at the heart of it, it's like Steve's Carrell's character. Yeah, and like everything that he goes through. 35:43Speaker 3 But yeah, I love that movie. 35:44Speaker 1 It was so good. Emily and I talked about that in an episode little while ago when were actually talking about plot twists because it has who hasn't seen it, although I assuming most of you has. It has a great plot twist that is someone expected but just works so well for these characters. Oh love, Yeah, you don't spoil it for like the two people are there who haven't seen it. Okay, last time I'm going to bring up and I had to go back to nineteen ninety nine. Cool, and I just remember again watching this movie on a loop as a kid again as a kid on a VHK guest. Before you say that, oh, I'm actually I wonder if you've I mean, I hope you've seen this. Otherwise I'm going to be super disappointed. It's the nineteen ninety nine teen classic. She's all that. 36:22Speaker 2 No. 36:24Speaker 1 I know should be this surprise every time, but like, this is a classic movie. I thought you're going to say Clueless. Then, Oh, I had Clues on my list, but we talked about Clueless so many times. Yeah, we have a whole brutally honest review on it, so that's got an important makeover seeing it too. You've never seen you know what I know of it, Okay, and like that's the weird thing to me. Can I say you know of it, but you've never watched it. 36:46Speaker 3 I think a lot of it is like what my parents like fed me at that time. 36:50Speaker 1 You're an adult woman now who lives alone with your own TV. You can make your own choice. I'm just saying so many times I went home and I'm like, oh, I wish I had a new, great movie to watch. But the hard thing about me and my job, I've seen every movie. I literally have seen every movie. It's so hard for me to sit down and find a movie that I haven't seen that this is not fair, but I really want to watch. And then you're spoilt for choice. You could sit down a fry night. There's so many. 37:13Speaker 2 Movie hours an hour, and I got in my adult life too, it's valuable, like I've things to look forward to exactly. 37:19Speaker 1 You would love this again. This out of all the movies on my list, this is probably kind of the most problematic. 37:24Speaker 3 Okay. 37:24Speaker 1 It's also like using a woman for like a nefarious reason over like sexualizing her and there's a slight sprinkling of sexual assault end. But it's a classic. So she's all that. It came out in nineteen ninety nine and it stars Rachel Lee Cook. Do you know that name? Blasphemy? Rachel Lee Cook was in the late nineties, only two thousands. I'm a icnic girl. She started so many big movies. Also, Josing the Pussycats was a movie that was torn apart and I think did wreck her career. I think, but now we look back at it and see it for the masterpiece that it is. So she plays Laney Bogs. What a name? I don't know. They were like, you know what, this girl's gonna be unpopular and ugly, and we're gonna give her name's gonna be Laney Bogs, and that's going to explain exactly why. 38:07Speaker 3 Laneye b would be cute. 38:08Speaker 1 Yeah, they don't call it that. And so Lanny Blogs is she's an artist at school, and she was like and she kind of just looks away at paintings all this sort of stuff, and she dresses like an absolute hobo. So they went to because Rachel Lee Cook is a really like a classically beautiful kind of pixy looking woman, and so they really had to go to town to make her unattractive. So they've dressed her in like really oversized, paint slatted clothes. People don't want women to be comfortable, no, exactly, and you know what, she is so comfortable. That's what I take away from her, Like, and she's wearing about fifteen and before she gets her makeover, she's wearing about fifteen layers of clothes in all scenes, like she'll have like a pair of like old pants on and like a long top over that, and then like a singler and then that's very inn now and like an exactly ahead of her time. So Laney Bogs is the most unpopular nerd at school and they have have he do the classic thing of like the first time we really see her, she just falls over. Girls in rom coms always falling over. Sometimes they're so hot and beautiful that they fall over because like I'm so clumsy, and sometimes it's to show they're a nerd. But and then like feeling around exactly well exactly, and she and she wears really big glass okay of course, and straight hair but pulled back in a low ponytail I'm not a sleek ponytail like a I do anything to my ponytail. But the glasses is the real thing. So she So she's the ugly girl at school. And then we have Freddy Prince Junior and this is peak Freddy Prince Junior era. Don't I mean, I don't want to say his air is completely over, but like this was peak, Like he was the wrong com leader and so many things. Playing Zach Syla and he is like the sports storry. I know, Lany Bogs Zach Syler. You know he wrote on this movie m Night Shamalan before he did six Cents. Yeah, like I know, well, you could just be a skipper for high It's like hash. It's like haw Shonda Rhimes wrote the classic Britney Spears movie Crossroads. 40:05Speaker 2 Job. 40:05Speaker 1 Yeah, before you have your big break, you just write the scripts that are out there. So Mna Scharmalan is like I can just imagine he had like the sixth cent script on one screen and like the other and between them. So Zach is like the actual like the jock of the school, the king. Everyone loves him. They're all seniors in their final year of high school and they're coming up to prom and again a very old school like American high school thing is like the prom is always like the climax of the movie, like everything's leading towards that. The rest of his cast is like a who's Who of the nineties. We have Matthew Lillard as Brock Hudson. He's like a reality stuff. Paul Walker, the late Paul Walker again peak kind of his like era playing Dean. And then Jodi Lynn O'Keefe. I don't know if you know that name, but you would know her face. She is in every kind of she's She wanted to be on the Vampire Diaries and stuff later on, but she was in a lot of these early like teen movies, always as like kind of the high school mean girl, the beautiful high school young girl. So Zach and Taylor have been Taylor Vaughan have been together, and they're like they're going to be prom king and queen. That's their thing. Only Taylor meets Matthew Lylard's character, who is old of them out of high school, a reality TV start on the real world. In the real world, Ye dumps Zach for him, and it's like anarchy in the school that the couple has broken up and that Taylor has dumped Zach, and then everyone feels sorry for Zach. And he was like, I can have any girl I want. This is not romantically he meant to fall in love with him, and you kind of do, but he's like, I can have any girl I want. He's like, I could make a girl like that. So this movie is actually based on Pigmalion, which is a play in a book that then went on to inspire the Audrey Hepburnt movie My Fair Lady. So this is a play. Do you know there was a moment in time there where like Clueless is based on Emma and She's the Man, Yeah, And She's the Man is based on Twelfth Night, and as we discovered another podcast the other day, Bridge Jone's Diaries Pride and Prejudice. So this was a big moment in time where, like all of these teens, the biggest thing you could do for box office gold was to remake these classic literature as a teen rooman, now we make movies from last year, and now we'll just remake anything that's out there in the world. So Zach is like, I can make any woman. I can make her the popular girl. And so Paul Walker's character makes him a bet. He's like, Okay, I'm going to bet you that you can't make like a girl that I pick in this school into the prom queen. And Zach's like, pick someone. And that's of course when Lanye makes her entrance, comes up the stairs. She's making fifty layers of clothing. She's got fifty bags eye and she like immediately falls to the floor. And he was like, and then I'm just gonna say Paul Walker because it's two, so you know who I'm talking about. Paul Walker goes her and Freddie Prince Junior. Zach is like, Lady Box, absolutely not. He's like, like, the subtext is she's the ugliest woman I've ever seen. So then he has to the subjects of all these exactly, and then Zach's like, well, I'm gonna have to do this now. So then Zach has to go and try and befriend laany Bogs. And it's so funny when he like keeps trying because he's used to. He's the star of the school, he's the sports star. Everyone loves him. He's so charming. So he kind of goes over to her, like later that night he goes up and to her where she's working, where she's wearing this like huge, full lawful hat because she works in like service industry and he's like never worked a day in his life, and he's like kind of like hey, and she just has no time of day for him, and so funny because she's like, look, I'm not smart, and he's like what this is kind of like a good kind of like twist of that classic like dumb jock smart girl being ugly. She's like, I'm not smart. I know I look smart because I got the subtext is because she's got wearing glasses. I know I look smart, but I'm not. And I can't choot. I can't chewt to you. She's like, I can't. I know you're probably failing school, but I can't help you. I can't choot you. I just I look smart, but i'm not. He's like that is oh no. Then he's like, oh I'm smart. I'm like the third top of that class. I don't need tutoring, thank you so much. So he's smart. So he is smart, yeah, because he's like his whole subject is like his parents like you're going to like this fancy school and you're gonna do this, You're gonna do that. He's like, he can't pick anything of his life. Smart boy, I know, sucks. And so then he starts to befriend her, and like slowly over time, starts to sort of like make her over and teach her how to be cool. And the makeover scene is so so important because up until this he has no like sexual interest in her because she's got glasses, you know, of course, and he can't tell, Yeah, he can't tell because it's pulled back, and he can't tell that she's got a tiny hot body because she keeps falling over and oversized and she falling over so she has a muscle issue. It's all happened. So he's like, he's like, I'm gonna make her gorgeous, but I have no interest in her. And then he brings over his older sister, Mac played by Anna Papquin, and Anna Pumpquin is only in this movie for a short moment, but she makes She comes into this sassy older girl from college, his sister. And then there's this party at school and so Mac takes Laney upstairs and they have this moment where and this moment has been parodied so many times, most famously in Not Another Teen Movie, where all she does is pull out the ponytail and she's like, and you're beautiful. But they at this moment too where lady talks about the fact that her mom died when she was little and so she's been raising her little brother and looking after her dad, and she's like, I just never had a mom to like teach me this stuff, because Mac is like, in the nicest way possible, your eyebrows are disgusting, let's pluck them, Like why don't you wear makeup? And she's like, well, I didn't have anyone to teach me, which is lovely also so young, like yeah, yeah, Well she's a senior in high school and she's never plucked her eyebrows, which isn't the craziest thing at all, but the movie does make you think like her life has been severely stunted because of this. So this college student cuts her hair so instead of having and again usually they add hair in, so this is also maybe not even like a flipping the script, but at the time they so she has this like long, kind of straight, like scraggly hair, they cut it into a super super chic boss she does yeah, yeah, exactly, cuts her head perfectly, plucks her eyebrows, takes the glasses off, apparently does like a huge tan and stuff. And then we have a staircase, and all we haven't had a staircase moment so far as you know, all good movie makeover scenes really need a staircase. That's the moment. So Zach's downstairs, he's waiting to take it as party. He's expecting Lady Bogs to come like like his sister's just gonna like put some lipstick on her and she's gonna come frumpy down the stairs. All of a sudden, the camera pans up the stairs and a slow plan and you see a foot come down in a red high heel, and then the classic song kiss Me by Sixpence none the Richer, also from Dawson's Creek. I kind of tell you how this movie. This song is like this soundtrack of my entire teenage years. And every time I play it now, I actually, that song's too powerful. I have to be careful when I play it because if I play it with the street oh passion stranger, like I can't. That song's too powerful. It's just like it just makes you right, because it's a soundtrack to all the big romantic moments in our lives as that we watched on screen and not participation saying I don't have that many referends. No, no, no, I've never had a romantic tree that song, but it makes me think of a time where like it's signaled this like cue a social cue tea. Yeah, it's like this subconscious like dog whistle of like I'm about to fall in love for the first time, and as a woman in her late FERI I still feel that. And so the camera pans up kiss Me starts to play, and then you see Lannie for the first time post makeover, and she is an absolute bombshell. She's wearing a tiny red mini dress, one of the most iconic dresses in film. I would say, she's got this beautiful, not over the top makeup, like not a red lip or anything, just like beautiful, smoldering, bronzy makeup, a beautiful chic Bob and Zach like loses his mind, he cannot believe it. We look on and Freddie Princeton up give that man at the Academy Award. He just he's like, oh my god, this is the most stunning woman I've ever seen. This is simple manner exactly. You put in a red little as in my early twenties, I had so many little red party dresses because all I wanted to do was dressed like Lannie. I was just waiting for a stair I was waiting for a staircase, and I've never lived in a house with staircase. How will I make my entrance? So she's walking down the stairs, the song's playing, it's so beautiful, and then she falls face first down the stairs. Well, she grabs the because she walked in Heels's true. It's actually like a quite a it's quite dangerous. Yeah, she's trying to do a slow walk down the stairs in heels, the first time she's ever worn heels. It's actually quite the moment. So the spell is like broken because she has to grab the railing and he has to help her, and everyone's like ooh, and he's like ill and he's like, oh, I remember how before? Yeah, I don't know. But falling when you're hot and following your ugly too true. When she fell when she was ugly disgusting. When she falls and she's hot, he's like, pretty well, help you yeah, pretty brifect. Yeah, it's so funny. And before before she comes down the standcase, Anna Patlin's character Mac does a little introduction. She's like, and they try to I think they're aware there that like, giving this teenage girl a bombshell makeover might send the wrong message. They try to dilute it, but it doesn't work. That's what I was thinking, is. 48:54Speaker 2 That putting it like a young girl in like red dress, red heel. 48:57Speaker 1 A sexy red dress for a man that's trying to win a bet with her. Yeah, there's a lot. It's all trying to make grimacing for anyone who cuts. So Mac tries to sort of dilute the message. So she comes down before Lane and she goes introducing the not improved but different. It's kind of what she says Lady Bogs. She's like, not improved but different because she's trying to be like, no, she was good before, and I'm like, guys, she wasn't good before. That's the part of the whole the movie. That's the premise of this exactly. And so as it goes on, she does dress better, but she doesn't like overly change how she dresses. And then she wears this like black glittery dress to the prom, and she does look nice, but it's the whole thing because she goes with Paul Walker's character and then he tries to sexually assault her and then Zack Syla saves her and then they fall in love and have a gorgeous kiss and then there's a huge dance number. There's the best dance number that it's a lot happens. That's a lot that poor girl. Yeah, yeah, she goes through a lot. Well, she finds out before the prom that it's a bet, and she has this moment where she yells act She's like, all of a sudden, this turns into like it does turn into a Shakespearean drama. It's not based on Shakespeare, but the vibe. She's like, am I bet, am I bet? Am my fucking bet And he just looks at her asi and he goes yes. And then oh my god, burn it into my soul that moment because you just like I remember as a kid, like nearly crying. I'm like, yeah, it's over, Like they'll liver be in love now where they do spoiler alert end up in love. She should be like, thank you for the makeover. Yeah, exactly. Now everyone at school wants me because they realized I'm not I could make a man. Yes, that's the sequel, so that in my head is well. There's a remake with Addison Ray called He's All That. Whether I've watched that, but I don't that. 50:34Speaker 3 I think I don't remember it because I had to burn it out. 50:36Speaker 1 That is a burable movie. Okay, that movie is blaspheming. They tried to flip the script by making it a girl making over a guy, which I'm all for, but the movie itself is terrible. So I can't believe. You can't not You cannot live in a world where you've watched He's All That and not She's All That. I know when one is a one is an abomination and one is a classic teen movie. So you've done that wrong. I'm sorry. So She's All That one of the teen movies that still lives in my head is one of the best makeovers ever. And again, don't listen to that song, just like on the Fly, Oh it's too dangerous, dangerous, use it responsibly. 51:12Speaker 2 Thanks so much for listening to the spill today. Don't forget to follow us on socials. 51:16Speaker 1 We've popped. 51:16Speaker 2 The link in the show notes will be back in your feed bright and early tomorrow with morning tea. 51:21Speaker 3 Ash London has all of the entertainment headlines. 51:24Speaker 1 To start your day. 51:25Speaker 2 The Spill is produced by Minishi Sworn with video production by Michael Keane. 51:29Speaker 1 Bye ByeBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Mike is back with this week's episode of News For The Blues, as he discusses all the latest news out of the club before this weekend's trip to relegation threatened West Ham. Mike discusses the latest injury news going into the match, with two big misses for the blues, a chance for some Thierno Barry redemption and Michael Keane's new contract. To help support the show, please use our affiliate links for both CFS and Fanatics when buying your Everton merchandise ⬇️

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To wrap up Season 15 of the Fozcast, we're joined by current Everton defender and England international, Michael Keane! ⚽ Michael takes us right back to his Manchester United academy days - including what it was really like to be put through the famous Sir Alex Ferguson hairdryer treatment test… and how he came out the other side!

We visit Finch Farm for a chat with Michael Keane as the Blues head into the final stretch of games in the battle for a place in Europe. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The lads are joined by Everton centre half Michael Keane, as they discuss the great home with against Chelsea, the impact of the manager, the season so far and the objectives as we enter the final seven games of the season. To help support the show, please use our affiliate links for both Classic Football Shirts and Fanatics below ⬇️

EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/efc Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee Host Ian Croll is joined by Chris Beesley and Connor O'Neill on the Royal Blue podcast to unpack a bruising week for Everton: a 4-2 home loss to Brentford and a 1-1 draw with bottom-of-the-table Wolves at Hill Dickinson Stadium. The lads dissect the chaos as nine-man Everton battled on amid contentious refereeing and VAR calls—Michael Keane's hair‑pull red card, Jack Grealish's dismissal for clapping the referee—and react to the failed appeal. There's fallout from a furious David Moyes press conference and a look ahead to Saturday's 12:15pm FA Cup tie against Sunderland.  Subscribe, share your thoughts, and join the debate. Chris Beesley's Book: Spirit of the Blues: https://tinyurl.com/35yrkvdb *Emotional farewell to Goodison Park | 16-page Everton souvenir picture special:*  https://shop.regionalnewspapers.co.uk/liverpool-echo-monday-19th-may-2025-4583-p.asp *Goodbye to Goodison special souvenir edition:*  https://tinyurl.com/GoodbyeGoodisonSouvenir *Gavin Buckland's Book 'The End' | Order your copy here:* https://tinyurl.com/GavinBucklandTheEnd Everton FC podcasts from the Liverpool ECHO's Royal Blue YouTube channel. Get exclusive Everton FC content - including podcasts, live shows and videos - everyday.  Subscribe to the Royal Blue Everton FC YouTube Channel and watch daily live shows HERE: https://bit.ly/3aNfYav Listen and subscribe to the Royal Blue Podcast for all your latest Everton FC content via Apple and Spotify: APPLE: https://bit.ly/3HbiY1E SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/47xwdnY Visit the Liverpool ECHO website: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/all-about/everton-fc Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LivEchoEFC Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@royal.blue.evertoFollow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolEchoEFC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Mike is back with this week's episode of News For The Blues, as he discusses all the latest from David Moyes' pre-match press conference before Saturday's 3rd Round F.A. Cup tie against Sunderland. Michael Keane's red card against Wolves, subsequent rejected appeal, squad availability, Jarrad Branthwaite and the latest January transfer window update are all on the agenda. To help support the show, please use our affiliate links for both CFS and Fanatics when buying your Everton merchandise ⬇️

Support the Show • Become a patron: https://patreon.com/aboveaveragefpl (25% off using "DEC25") • Rate & review on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favourite platform • Join our Discord for 24/7 FPL banter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Paul, Adam and Lyndon finally get a chance to discuss Everton's humbling at the hands of Newcastle and their excellent response on the South Coast where they beat Bournemouth at Dean Court for the first time ever. They review the changes forced upon David Moyes and ponder how he might deal with Tim Iroegbunam's suspension if Michael Keane is also still missing against Forest this weekend Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/efc Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee Idrissa Gana Gueye and Michael Keane have put their Old Trafford incident behind them. Following the Manchester United match in which Gueye was sent off, a video released yesterday shows the pair in good spirits, joking around with boxing gloves and making light of the incident.  The Royal Blue panel react to what this says about the dressing-room spirit as they look ahead to Saturday's clash with Newcastle United, assessing the key battles and selection calls for the Blues. Featuring Chris Beesley, Gavin Buckland and guest Rob Sawyer. Chris Beesley's Book: Spirit of the Blues: https://tinyurl.com/35yrkvdb *Emotional farewell to Goodison Park | 16-page Everton souvenir picture special:*  https://shop.regionalnewspapers.co.uk/liverpool-echo-monday-19th-may-2025-4583-p.asp *Goodbye to Goodison special souvenir edition:*  https://tinyurl.com/GoodbyeGoodisonSouvenir *Gavin Buckland's Book 'The End' | Order your copy here:* https://tinyurl.com/GavinBucklandTheEnd Everton FC podcasts from the Liverpool ECHO's Royal Blue YouTube channel. Get exclusive Everton FC content - including podcasts, live shows and videos - everyday.  Subscribe to the Royal Blue Everton FC YouTube Channel and watch daily live shows HERE: https://bit.ly/3aNfYav Listen and subscribe to the Royal Blue Podcast for all your latest Everton FC content via Apple and Spotify: APPLE: https://bit.ly/3HbiY1E SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/47xwdnY Visit the Liverpool ECHO website: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/all-about/everton-fc Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LivEchoEFC Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@royal.blue.everto Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolEchoEFC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Idrissa Gueye gets sent off against Manchester United for punching... Michael Keane? On the latest edition of Caught Offside, we discuss Everton's bizarre win at Man United and how it may have been David Moyes' dream scenario. Plus, Eze authors a moment of peak Spursiness, JJ lists his Liverpool complaints and Messi conjures up some postseason magic. Also, Andrew has been doing something his entire life only to just find out that he's been doing it wrong and his mind is blown. Tune in to find out what that is and if you've been doing it too.For even more Caught Offside content, get on over to Caught Offside Plus right now! We've recently posted a new episode where we talk our way through the International competition vs Club football debate and we discuss Gennaro Gattuso's comments about UEFA deserving more love from FIFA when it comes to World Cup Qualifying.To sign up, just go to https://caughtoffside.supercast.com! Once you have access to the premium feed, be sure to go back and check out our special "welcome episode" from June 24th, 2024 (we don't think you'll be disappointed)!And for all the latest merch, get over to https://caughtoffsidepod.com/---Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/CaughtOffsidePod/X: https://twitter.com/COsoccerpodInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/caughtoffsidepod/Email: CaughtOffsidePod@gmail.comYoutube: https://www.youtube.com/@caughtoffsidepod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Philadelphia Union's 2025 season came to an end Sunday night, as they fell to NYCFC 1–0 thanks to Union slayer Maxi Moralez's goal. The main storyline from the match wasn't the goal itself, but the performance of former Union goalkeeper Matt Freese, who denied the Union on five separate scoring chances. Todd and José discuss the latest news, including Philadelphia Union Sporting Director Ernst Tanner being investigated by MLS after a report published by The Guardian detailed allegations of sexist, racist, and homophobic behavior from Tanner spanning seven years during his time at the club. They also share their thoughts on the match, with topics including: how much the Union's 22-day layoff affected their performance, whether Frankie Westfield and Mikael Uhre should have started over Nathan Harriel and Tai Baribo, and how Matt Freese and Maxi Moralez continue to haunt the Union. News: Philadelphia Union Sporting Director Ernst Tanner being investigated by MLS after a report published by The Guardian detailed allegations of sexist, racist, and homophobic behavior from Tanner spanning seven years during his time at the club: [8:05] Philadelphia Union v NYCFC: Why the lost is disappointing: [17:07] Did 22 days play a factor into why the Union lost: [35:28] Should Union have started Westfield & Uhre: [45:57] Mikael Uhre keeping options open: [58:30] Heroics From Matt Freese & Union Slayer Maxi Moralez Haunt Union: [1:05:25] Blunder of The Week: Idrissa Gana Gueye red card for slapping teammate Michael Keane of Everton: [1:15:18]   Social Media: Twitter: @FreeKickPod Instagram: @FreeKickPod Facebook: @FreeKickPod YouTube: The Free Kick https://thefreekick.substack.com/   Jose's Social Media: Twitter: @JoserNunez91 https://nunezj.substack.com/

EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/efc Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee Everton claimed a memorable 1-0 win at Old Trafford, flying out of the blocks with a brave, front‑foot attacking approach that had Manchester United on the back foot from the first whistle.  Ian Croll, Joe Thomas and Connor O'Neill deliver reaction and analysis on the game plan, standout performers, and the controversial flashpoint involving Idrissa Gueye and Michael Keane that saw the Senegalese midfielder sent off — and how the Blues regrouped to see out a massive three points.  Watch, comment and subscribe for more Royal Blue content. Chris Beesley's Book: Spirit of the Blues: https://tinyurl.com/35yrkvdb *Emotional farewell to Goodison Park | 16-page Everton souvenir picture special:*  https://shop.regionalnewspapers.co.uk/liverpool-echo-monday-19th-may-2025-4583-p.asp *Goodbye to Goodison special souvenir edition:*  https://tinyurl.com/GoodbyeGoodisonSouvenir *Gavin Buckland's Book 'The End' | Order your copy here:* https://tinyurl.com/GavinBucklandTheEnd Everton FC podcasts from the Liverpool ECHO's Royal Blue YouTube channel. Get exclusive Everton FC content - including podcasts, live shows and videos - everyday.  Subscribe to the Royal Blue Everton FC YouTube Channel and watch daily live shows HERE: https://bit.ly/3aNfYav Listen and subscribe to the Royal Blue Podcast for all your latest Everton FC content via Apple and Spotify: APPLE: https://bit.ly/3HbiY1E SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/47xwdnY Visit the Liverpool ECHO website: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/all-about/everton-fc Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LivEchoEFC Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@royal.blue.everto Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolEchoEFC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Seconds out. And fight. And boy did Everton fight. What a result for the Blues at Manchester United, as Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall's stunner was enough for the 10-men Toffees to win at Old Trafford. Matt and Paddy are back to look at a wild night. How significant will this win be? What has changed at Everton to spark this upturn in form? And what next for Idrissa Gueye and Michael Keane after their on-pitch spat?

Mike and Lee are back to look back on the fantastic win at Old Trafford; They discuss the dramatics between Gana Gueye and Michael Keane, that saw the midfield man dismissed; The chat about how well the team responded to the adversity as a collective and the impressive impact of David Moyes; The show rounds off with a look ahead to this weekend's home fixture against Newcastle United Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Last night, Everton Football Club had a shock 1-0 win against Manchester United, in a game that was somewhat marred by controversy.Just 13 minutes into the Toffees' remarkable Premier League win, Everton midfielder Idrissa Gueye was sent off for striking team-mate Michael Keane.But, just how big of an issue is this? And what sort of an example is it setting?Joining guest host Anna Daly to discuss is Sean Slattery, member of the Irish Soccer Refs' Association, Off the Ball's Daniel Pitcher and Fiona Connelly, Everton fan and Soccer Coach and more.

At the Everton match last night, midfielder Idrissa Gueye has sparked huge discourse after he slapped his teammate, Michael Keane. He got sent off with a red card, but some are arguing that the punishment was far too harsh. But should violence on the pitch be normalised? Joining Jonothan to discuss this is Business and Life Coach Mark Fennell.

Matt, Keith, Dave and Rob react after Everton secure one of their best ever Premier League wins. Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall scored after Idrissa Gueye was sent off for slapping Michael Keane.

What defines trauma, and why are people more vulnerable to it than others? This will be the main focus of a talk happening at the Sugar Club in Dublin later this month, which will unravel the neuroscience behind Irish trauma…Behavioural and Clinical Neuroscientist Dr. Michael Keane will be giving the talk and demonstrating trauma through visuals like brain imaging and scans.He joins Seán to discuss more.

The guys discuss Everton's welcome return to winning ways with the 2-0 win over Fulham at Bramley-Moore Dock thanks to goals by Idrissa Gueye and Michael Keane. They reflect on David Moyes's positive team changes and encouraging performances from the likes of Thierno Barry, Tim Iroegbunam and James Garner, plus special mentions for KDH and Keane Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Erie County District Attorney Mike Keane further details additional charges filed against a man accused of killing his girlfriend and their newborn son full 622 Thu, 30 Oct 2025 14:30:00 +0000 b5tYXRzXMDCHGNjDPe2HWqJrZaYGjPli buffalo,crime,wben,erie county district attorney's office,michael keane,news WBEN Extras buffalo,crime,wben,erie county district attorney's office,michael keane,news Erie County District Attorney Mike Keane further details additional charges filed against a man accused of killing his girlfriend and their newborn son Archive of various reports and news events 2024 © 2021 Audacy, Inc. News

City of Buffalo officials and Erie County District Attorney Michael Keane address the homicide investigation into a weekend fire on Norwood Avenue that killed a mother and her 4-day-old son full 856 Thu, 23 Oct 2025 20:00:00 +0000 2qJqmYpEb43xnlZ8IJgoKJyOsPB01OmA buffalo,news,wben,buffalo fire department,buffalo police,erie county district attorney's office,chris scanlon,michael keane WBEN Extras buffalo,news,wben,buffalo fire department,buffalo police,erie county district attorney's office,chris scanlon,michael keane City of Buffalo officials and Erie County District Attorney Michael Keane address the homicide investigation into a weekend fire on Norwood Avenue that killed a mother and her 4-day-old son Archive of various reports and news events 2024 © 2021 Audacy, Inc.

Erie County District Attorney Michael Keane discusses the arraignment of Cynthia Gilbert following a stabbing this past weekend in Buffalo full 667 Fri, 03 Oct 2025 19:30:00 +0000 U7XFb2i3F00wjldjNwLkHZK1aVhyqckA buffalo,news,crime,wben,buffalo police,erie county district attorney's office,michael keane WBEN Extras buffalo,news,crime,wben,buffalo police,erie county district attorney's office,michael keane Erie County District Attorney Michael Keane discusses the arraignment of Cynthia Gilbert following a stabbing this past weekend in Buffalo Archive of various reports and news events 2024 © 2021 Audacy, Inc. News

Aston Villa still can't score and don't look like they can create a chance. Emery has been looking for signings but the players were the same and it was even more narrow and more slow.Michael Keane cements his place in the top 5 of our favourite non Villa entities. Jack Grealish asks for a second yellow for Cash again and Damian Vidagany takes to the social media pages. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The lads are back to discuss the 0-0 draw with Aston Villa, in a game Everton controlled and should have won; They chat about the improved form of Michael Keane this season, and the question it presents to David Moyes as Jarrad Branthwaite nears fitness; Everton missed a host of opportunities against Villa, with the lads debating who should start going forward; The show rounds off with a look ahead to next weekend's first Merseyside Derby of the season. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

District Attorney Michael Keane on the Lancaster Woman who stole $1.8 million from a medical practice bonus 562 Wed, 23 Jul 2025 20:26:01 +0000 9yf5HX3YlP9CbceuTLjHxWEXvJiIGeGz news WBEN Extras news District Attorney Michael Keane on the Lancaster Woman who stole $1.8 million from a medical practice Archive of various reports and news events 2024 © 2021 Audacy, Inc. News False

Lyndon is joined by Adam and Paul after almost a month off the proverbial airwaves to discuss the new contracts for Jarrad Branthwaite, Seamus Coleman, Idrissa Gueye and Michael Keane, the arrivals of Thierno Barry and Mark Travers and the needs in the squad for the remainder of the transfer window Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In Part 1 of this week's show, Mike chats with La Liga London host Rahul Lakhani to have an in depth discussion about Thierno Barry, with the Villareal striker one step away from joining the club. In part 2, Mike and Lee have a chat about Jarrad Branthwaite signing a new 5 year deal, as well as Michael Keane's new 1 year deal, as summer deals begin to pick up speed at Everton. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

LISTEN IN FULL: https://tinyurl.com/5x5uaac2https://tinyurl.com/5x5uaac2 Matt and Rob react to the news of Michael Keane's new contract and Idrissa Gueye's impending renewal. We also assess the significance of Jarrad Branthwaite's new contract and Thierno Barry's potential transfer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

There is a lot going on at the moment isn't there? Matt and Paddy return with exits (definitely), arrivals (maybe) and contracts (hopefully?) to discuss. Dominic Calvert-Lewin is the first point to tackle this week. What does his Everton legacy look like? And is he the most he-could-play-for-anyone player on the free agent market this summer? We then pivot to talk Jarrad Branthwaite, Idrissa Gueye and Michael Keane and their potential new deals. Thierno Barry and Kenny Tete round us off, as we look at whether Everton have been 'played' on the latter. EMAIL: evertonbyline@gmail.com Use discount code TBR25: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://lgatesphotoshop.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#EFC⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#Everton⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠#EvertonStadium⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this action packed episode, Mike and Pete are joined by Liverpool Echo Everton Correspondent Joe Thomas, to discuss all the latest from the football club: Seamus Coleman's contract extension, the latest in relation to Gana and Michael Keane and Jarrad Branthwaite's imminent new contract are discussed, with a possible deal for Thierno Barry also on the agenda: Dominic Calvert-Lewin announced he is leaving the club as we recorded, with the lad chatting about that at the end of the show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Everton enter the final week of June with work to do before the real transfer mayhem begins.  Clarity is required on the as yet unresolved contract situations of Seamus Coleman, Idrissa Gueye, Michael Keane and Dominic Calvert-Lewin. Each of their current deals will expire next week. A decision on their futures is expected in the next week.  In other news, Everton want Kenny Tete and are trying to seal the free transfer signing of the Netherlands international right-back, whose deal at Premier League rivals Fulham is set to expire. However, after reports of a verbal agreement Fulham this week sent new improved contract proposals to the right-back.  Both Fulham and Everton have proposals on the table with a decision expected soon. Join Ian Croll and Connor O'Neill for the Wednesday edition of the Royal Blue podcast as they discuss the latest Everton transfer news. *Emotional farewell to Goodison Park | 16-page Everton souvenir picture special:*  https://shop.regionalnewspapers.co.uk/liverpool-echo-monday-19th-may-2025-4583-p.asp *Goodbye to Goodison special souvenir edition:*  https://tinyurl.com/GoodbyeGoodisonSouvenir *25 Best Reach Podcasts*https://podcast.feedspot.com/reach_podcasts/#h5644883 *Gavin Buckland's Book 'The End' | Order your copy here:* https://tinyurl.com/GavinBucklandTheEnd Everton FC podcasts from the Liverpool ECHO's Royal Blue YouTube channel. Get exclusive Everton FC content - including podcasts, live shows and videos - everyday.  Subscribe to the Royal Blue Everton FC YouTube Channel and watch daily live shows HERE: https://bit.ly/3aNfYav Listen and subscribe to the Royal Blue Podcast for all your latest Everton FC content via Apple and Spotify: APPLE: https://bit.ly/3HbiY1E SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/47xwdnY Visit the Liverpool ECHO website: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/all-about/everton-fc Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LivEchoEFC Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@royal.blue.everto Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolEchoEFC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Everton are braced for another summer of interest in Jarrad Branthwaite. The centre-back remains on the radar of several Premier League clubs. The Blues rebuffed two bids for the 22-year-old from Manchester United last summer. Neither offer, with the second for a package worth around £50m, came close to meeting the club's valuation of a player who had enjoyed a stunning breakthrough year. Branthwaite is under contract at Everton until the end of June 2027, having signed a new deal following his emergence into the first team in the opening months of the 2023/24 campaign. Everton, who signed him from Carlisle United in 2020, are in a strong position to rebuff speculative interest as a result. Looking deeper into the squad, a number of Everton players with uncertain futures remain out the club, but for how long? Dominic Calvert-Lewin and Michael Keane will see their contracts run out at the end of June while Nathan Patterson has struggled to impress upon his return from injury.  A forward remains a priority for the blues having been rebuffed by Liam Delap, who chose Chelsea. Where does that leave Beto who has turned his Everton career around with a bag full of goals in the second half of the season?  Join Ian Croll and Tony Scott for the Wednesday addition of the Royal Blue podcast as they discuss the latest transfer news and rumours and give their thoughts on who they would keep, sell and release.  *Emotional farewell to Goodison Park | 16-page Everton souvenir picture special:*  https://shop.regionalnewspapers.co.uk/liverpool-echo-monday-19th-may-2025-4583-p.asp *Goodbye to Goodison special souvenir edition:*  https://tinyurl.com/GoodbyeGoodisonSouvenir *Gavin Buckland's Book 'The End' | Order your copy here:* https://tinyurl.com/GavinBucklandTheEnd Everton FC podcasts from the Liverpool ECHO's Royal Blue YouTube channel. Get exclusive Everton FC content - including podcasts, live shows and videos - everyday.  Subscribe to the Royal Blue Everton FC YouTube Channel and watch daily live shows HERE: https://bit.ly/3aNfYav Listen and subscribe to the Royal Blue Podcast for all your latest Everton FC content via Apple and Spotify: APPLE: https://bit.ly/3HbiY1E SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/47xwdnY Visit the Liverpool ECHO website: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/all-about/everton-fc Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LivEchoEFC Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@royal.blue.evertoFollow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolEchoEFC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Everton produced a spectacular comeback to defeat Fulham 3-1 at Craven Cottage in glorious sunshine by the Thames after being on the back foot for most of the first 45 minutes. A powerful header from Raul Jimenez on 17 minutes put the hosts in front and they continued to boss proceedings for the lion's share of the first half before the Blues got back into the contest with a slice of good fortune when Vitalii Mykolenko's deflected shot deceived Bernd Leno. Everton went ahead on 70 minutes when substitute Dwight McNeil's corner-kick was headed in at the back post by Michael Keane, who had come into the side as one of four changes, before Beto completed the turnaround three minutes later as his shot proved too hot to handle for Leno. ​Join Ian Croll, Joe Thomas and Dan Haygarth for the Monday edition of the Royal Blue podcast as they react to the 3-1 win against Fulham.  Goodbye to Goodison special souvenir edition:  https://tinyurl.com/GoodbyeGoodisonSouvenir Gavin Buckland's Book 'The End' | Order your copy here: https://tinyurl.com/GavinBucklandTheEnd Everton FC podcasts from the Liverpool ECHO's Royal Blue YouTube channel. Get exclusive Everton FC content - including podcasts, live shows and videos - everyday.  Subscribe to the Royal Blue Everton FC YouTube Channel and watch daily live shows HERE: https://bit.ly/3aNfYav Listen and subscribe to the Royal Blue Podcast for all your latest Everton FC content via Apple and Spotify: APPLE: https://bit.ly/3HbiY1E SPOTIFY: https://bit.ly/47xwdnY Visit the Liverpool ECHO website: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/all-about/everton-fc Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LivEchoEFC Follow us on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@royal.blue.everto Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LiverpoolEchoEFC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The lads are joined by Everton season ticket holder Gary Huddleston to discuss the home defeat to Manchester City; With it being Lee's last time at Goodison Park, he chats about his feelings before, during and after the match; The defeat seemed to hinge on an injury to James Tarkowski, with his replacement Michael Keane struggling when he came on, with the lads discussing how it went so wrong; The show rounds off with a look ahead to next weekend's trip to Chelsea. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The OG ATP lineup of James and Alex is here this week following Everton's 1-1 draw at Goodison Park vs Marco Silva's visiting Fulham, to take EFC to 5 matches unbeaten. Despite an enormously frustrating 90+ minutes where Everton were comfortably 2nd best, Michael Keane at striker was a genius tactical change from our not at all stubborn manager...  KIDDING! (kind of) Beto's late substitution paid huge dividends as he found himself on the end of a great cross from Ashley Young, and seized the chance with emphasis and ensuing emotion. As usual, we break down the timeline of events and discuss the major moments with some help from our loyal and much appreciated listeners (thank you!). They also look at whether DCL and Harrison make way for Lindstrom and Beto despite the run of positive results.   LINKS: https://linktr.ee/usatoffeepod Intro: Steve Barkwill Production: James Boyman Outro: Kenboib

EXCLUSIVE - NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/lwos Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! To get the best discount off your NordVPN plan - go to nordvpn.com/lwos - our link will also give you 4 extra months on the 2-year plan. There's no risk with Nord's 30 day money-back guarantee! Host Ricky Sacks was joined by Russ Williams, Mitch Fretton and Marlon via Spurs Kings TV as Son Heung-min scored twice as Tottenham comfortably brushed aside a lacklustre Everton side to notch up their first Premier League win of the season. Tottenham peppered the Everton goal straight from kick-off and their early intensity was quickly rewarded. A stylish move on the edge of the box culminated in Dejan Kulusevski cutting inside to tee up Yves Bissouma, whose crisp shot struck the underside of the crossbar on its way into the net. Everton goalkeeper Jordan Pickford was punished for dawdling on the ball shortly afterwards when Son stole it off the England number one and slotted into a vacant goal. Cristian Romero headed in Tottenham's third from a corner after the break when he outmuscled James Tarkowski and Michael Keane to head in James Maddison's pinpoint inswinger. Spurs skipper Son put the gloss on the result 13 minutes from time with a low angled finish through Pickford's legs after Micky van de Ven's enterprising run from one penalty box to the other. An independent Tottenham Hotspur Fan Channel providing instant post-match analysis and previews to every single Spurs match along with a range of former players, managers & special guests. Whilst watching our content we would greatly appreciate if you can LIKE the video and SUBSCRIBE to the channel, along with leaving a COMMENT below. - DIRECT CHANNEL INFORMATION: - Media/General Enquiries: lastwordonspurs@outlook.com - SOCIALS: * Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/LastWordOnSpurs * Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/LastWordOnSpurs * Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LastWordOnSpurs * Clubhouse: https://www.clubhouse.com/@LastWordOnSpurs * YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/LastWordOnSpurs WEBSITE: www.lastwordonspurs.com #THFC #TOTTENHAM #손흥민 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices