Podcast appearances and mentions of Kate Hudson

We had the honor of interviewing Brenda Song, Kate Hudson, and Mindy Kaling. We discuss revenge, how to thrive in male dominated spaces, and what it's like to create and act in a tv show. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Its about time we've done Almost Famous, definitely a film that cant be missed! And the casting is so good had me convinced that Stillwater is a real band! (Well it kind of is)  Kate Hudson is legendary and we also didn't know Billy Crudup could be so hot! So many sleeper casts in this film! We hope you enjoy the show!      Music: https://jessejacethomas.bandcamp.com/album/want Create your podcast today! #madeonzencastr

A-Rod just got dumped again, so Covino & Rich run through his legendary dating resume (J.Lo! Madonna! Cameron Diaz! Kate Hudson!) and ask: could you ever date someone who dated a superstar athlete? Plus, Covino drops the wildest stat of the day - Madonna might be the only woman who's been with a combined 1,000 home runs. Then, MLB's viral "Tarps Off" movement has fans ripping their shirts off at stadiums across the country and teams are actually selling dedicated sections for it. And it's "They Might Be Ass" - the entire American League is on trial. Only 5 of 15 AL teams are above .500 right now. Also: Ohtani's 0.73 ERA is insane. Happy Memorial Day weekend! #FSR #CRSHOW #Overpromised #dpshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A-Rod just got dumped again, so Covino & Rich run through his legendary dating resume (J.Lo! Madonna! Cameron Diaz! Kate Hudson!) and ask: could you ever date someone who dated a superstar athlete? Plus, Covino drops the wildest stat of the day - Madonna might be the only woman who's been with a combined 1,000 home runs. Then, MLB's viral "Tarps Off" movement has fans ripping their shirts off at stadiums across the country and teams are actually selling dedicated sections for it. And it's "They Might Be Ass" - the entire American League is on trial. Only 5 of 15 AL teams are above .500 right now. Also: Ohtani's 0.73 ERA is insane. Happy Memorial Day weekend! #FSR #CRSHOW #Overpromised #dpshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jackie and Danielle are diving into the glossy, rumor-filled world of Gossip, the early-2000s thriller packed with suspicious roommates, messy secrets, and peak WB-era casting. From whispered lies to one very questionable final twist, the No More Late Fees crew revisits a movie that feels surprisingly relevant in today's social media age.This week, the hosts break down Joshua Jackson's dark turn as Beau, James Marsden's unsettling performance as Derek, and why Kate Hudson absolutely understood the assignment as Naomi. Jackie and Danielle also unpack the film's commentary on gossip culture, consent, journalism ethics, and misinformation while reflecting on how elder millennials were taught to verify sources long before TikTok and viral headlines became everyday life.Along the way, they share hilarious reactions to the movie's ultra-stylized Y2K aesthetic, Norman Reedus' mysterious art installations, and the apartment setup that made absolutely no sense. The episode also includes behind-the-scenes trivia about deleted scenes, casting what-ifs involving Reese Witherspoon and Jennifer Love Hewitt, and the surprising production history behind the film.If you grew up loving Dawson's Creek-era thrillers, late-90s teen dramas, or underrated millennial cult favorites, this episode is packed with nostalgia, hot takes, and plenty of laughs. Jackie and Danielle also revisit the movie's twist ending and debate whether the film fully landed its message about rumors and accountability.Be sure to subscribe, leave a review, and let No More Late Fees know your favorite forgotten Y2K thriller. Your support helps more nostalgic movie lovers discover the podcast.Keywords: Gossip 2000 movie review, Joshua Jackson podcast, Kate Hudson thriller, James Marsden movies, Y2K movie podcast, millennial nostalgia podcast, Dawsons Creek cast movies, underrated 2000 thrillers, No More Late Fees podcast, Norman Reedus early roles, teen thriller movies, 2000s pop culture podcast·Season 6 Episode 5·—No More Late Fees ⁠https://nomorelatefeespodcast.com⁠909-601-NMLF (6653)—Follow Us on Social:Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/nomorelatefees TikTokhttps://www.tiktok.com/@nomorelatefees Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/nomorelatefeesYoutubehttps://www.youtube.com/@nomorelatefees Twitterhttps://x.com/NoMoreLateFees —CONQUERing⁠⁠myconquering.com⁠⁠10% Off Code: JACKIE10—NostaBeautyhttps://nostabeauty.com 20% Off Code: NMLF—DescriptCreator Plan 50% off 2 monthshttps://descript.cello.so/zp4OQqeIMdq

PopaHALLics #164 "Damaged Goods"Damaged people make for good pop in this episode, from a Neil Diamond tribute band with trouble at the door to a widow keeping busy to cope with her son's disappearance over 30 years ago in "Remarkably Bright Creatures."Streaming:"Remarkably Bright Creatures," Netflix. This movie adaptation of Shelby Van Pelt's novel stars Sally Field as a night shift aquarium worker who forms a bond with a curmudgeonly giant Pacific octopus (voiced by Alfred Molina)."Widow's Bay," Apple TV. A new mayor (Matthew Rhys) tries to turn his island town into a tourist destination despite its dark past in this comedy horror series. With Stephen Root and Kate O'Flynn."Patience," BBC.  An autistic police archivist (Ella Maisy Purvis) helps a detective inspector (Laura Fraser) solve crimes in this Belgian/British drama."Song Sung Blue," Hulu. Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson star as a Neil Diamond tribute band in Milwaukee in this heartwarming movie about the trials and tribulations of their relationship."Star Wars: Maul - Shadow Lord," Disney Plus. Animated. The horned, red and black devilish villain from "The Phantom Menace" tries to rebuild his criminal empire and woo a Jedi apprentice to the Dark Side.Books:"The Twelve LIves of Alfred Hitchcock: An Anatomy of the Master of Suspense," by Edward White. This 2021 Edgar Award-winning biography explores the famed director through 12 distinct facets of his life, such as "The Voyeur," "The Entertainer," and "The Murderer.""Hex House," by Amy Jane Stewart. A dark feminist horror novel set in Scotland. Hex House is a magical safe haven that turns abused women into vessels of revenge."Hitchcock's Blondes: The Unforgettable Women Behind the Legendary Director's Dark Obsession," by Laurence Leamer. This book covers some of the same subjects as "The Twelve Lives," but puts the women at the center of the story, with an emphasis on misbehavior (mainly Hitchcock's) and sex (mainly them).Music:PopaHALLics #164 Playlist (Kacey) features selections from Kacey Musgraves' new album "Middle of Nowhere," as well as Jackman and Hudson performing Neil Diamond's hits from the "Song Sung Blue" soundtrack.The Fair Use Doctrine of U.S. copyright law allows for the limited unauthorized use of copyrighted material for purposes of comment and criticism.

Katy Perry has dropped a TikTok over Josh Groban's surprise engagement that has the internet spiralling, and once you find out what song is playing in the background, the whole thing makes a lot more sense.We're also doing a deep dive into Hayden Panettiere's tell-all interviews in the press recently unpacking the real story behind her postpartum depression, the rumours that decimated her career, and the heartbreaking decision around her daughter that the world refused to forgive her for.Finally, we get into the Hollywood double standard that explains why Hayden never got the redemption arc other 'fallen' starlets did, and why this might finally be her moment to take it back. Love binge-watching TV? The Spill has launched a new podcast called Watch Party where we deep dive into the shows everyone’s talking about. Follow the feed on Apple or Spotify now. Plus remember The Spill drops the tea twice a day in this feed so follow us for all the latest entertainment news… OR you can WATCH our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and enjoy the watch! Link here. THE END BITS Find and follow us on socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thespillpodcast/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thespillpod Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thespillpodcast/ Read all the latest entertainment news on Mamamia: https://mamamia.com.au/entertainment/ Support Independent Women’s Media: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/ Your subscription helps us continue to tell the stories that matter to women. Want to join the conversation? Have feedback or a topic you want us to discuss? Send us a voice message or email us at thespill@mamamia.com.au and we’ll get back to you ASAP! Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Audio & Video Producer: Michael Kean Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week on Sibling Watchery, Bob and Monét recap RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars 11, Episode 2. The new MVQ Ceremony is already shaking up the queens as they turn queer nightlife into couture using materials inspired by iconic gay bars. Bob and Monét question who Dawn could actually beat in a lip sync, whether Morphine is overestimating her performances, and if choreographing a number really helps in the judging. They unpack Morgan clocking Mystique's strategy, whether Dawn betrayed Morphine, and if queens sometimes downplay their talents for the storyline. Plus, which bar they'd choose for runway inspiration, Kate Hudson's agelessness, and their predictions for who wins this bracket. Thanks to our sponsors: Go to ⁠https://baskandlatherco.com⁠ and use code RIVALRY for 20% off.  Let Rocket Money help you reach your financial goals faster at ⁠RocketMoney.com/RIVALRY⁠  Go to ⁠RO.CO/RIVALRY⁠ to see if you're eligible for the new GLP-1 pill on Ro. Ready to start? Visit ⁠WaldenU.edu⁠ today.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright and Emily Vernem on our subscribers only episode. You can listen to the full conversation: 'Scurrilous Gossip: The Royal Affair No One Saw Coming' here. What do you mean, you're not a subscriber yet? Solve that problem HERE. Welcome to another episode of Scurillous Gossip, where we stand by nothing. Here’s what we cover: We know why Helena Bonham Carter pulled the plug on The White Lotus Season Four. Support independent women's media - SUBSCRIBE HERE And we also know way too much about the strangest celebrity-royal rumour we’ve ever heard. Yes, we’re talking about Sarah Ferguson and… look, you won’t believe it. Then, the former Prince Andrew was chased by a man with a crowbar, and it’s about to make Prince Harry’s security battle even more complicated. And, Em’s Roman Empire is the relationship she calls ‘the most toxic situationship ever’, featuring one Mindy Kaling. VOTE FOR US: Help Out Loud win the People’s Choice category of the Australian Audio Awards. Find the link to vote right here Got questions or things you'd like Mia to talk about? Email us at outloud@mamamia.com.au What To Listen To Next: Listen to our latest episode: How To Be Liked By Absolutely Everyone Listen: Writing a List of Anti-Goals Made Me Quit My Job Listen: Scurrilous Gossip: A Facelift Slippage & ‘Wildly Unhappy’ Royals Listen: The Red Carpet Moment That Answers The Blake Lively Question Listen: Fake Nips & Wandering Hands: Mia’s Met Gala Verdict Listen: We Do Not Agree On The Taxi Cab Theory Listen: She Opened The Fridge. What She Found Ended Her Friendship. Listen: The Real Reason You Resent Your Friends Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Got questions or things you'd like Mia to talk about? Email us at outloud@mamamia.com.au Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see Mamamia Out Loud on Apple What to read: We finally know the plot of The White Lotus Season 4, and it's not what anyone expected. We need to discuss Fergie and the alleged 'corgi cloning'. HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: Why Fergie is the most feared royal. Cassie’s mum took out a home loan to protect her daughter against Diddy. She just told the world why. Mindy Kaling and B. J. Novak fell in love on The Office. They were a 'romantic, toxic mess'. THE END BITS: Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

IT'S VOODOO, BABY kicks off with Kate Hudson and Gena Rowlands as we dig into Ian Softley's The Skeleton Key (2005), one of the most slept-on horror films of the 2000s. We break down all five monster reveals, the Hoodoo vs. Voodoo distinction, and why Kate Hudson's Caroline belongs in the conversation for smartest horror protagonist ever. Plus: the film's touchy racial subtext, it's comparison to Get Out, and the ending that had us shook.  Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTubeFor bonus content and commentaries, check out our PatreonFollow the show on Instagram, TikTok, and FacebookWant to support the show and save 20% on Fangoria? Visit Fangoria and enter PROMO CODE: HOWIMETYOURMONSTER at checkout!Looking for How I Met Your Monster merch? Check out TeePublic for shirts, stickers, mugs, and more!Questions and comments: howimetyourmonsterpodcast@gmail.com

Sara Haines sits down with executive producer Brian Teta to clear up why she holds Joy Behar's chair every day and what really happened during her playful moment with Whoopi Goldberg in the Kate Hudson interview. She also looks back on her marriage proposal from her husband Max. Sara shares a touching story about an audience member who connected to Jamie Lynn Sigler's multiple sclerosis journey, reflects on what she'd tell her younger self, and reacts to Alyssa Farah Griffin's update about her baby's emergency surgery. She wraps by explaining why she was actually proud when her kids roasted her in their Mother's Day gift. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Summer isn’t just for blockbuster movies. Whereas network television traditionally went into hibernation by late May, in the age of streaming, where content is king, fresh TV programming is needed 12 months a year. Right now, there is plenty to choose from. One of the big ones is the next offering from “Baby Reindeer” creator and star Richard Gadd, who returns with a new limited series titled “Half Man,” a drama starring Jamie Bell. Also returning to the small screen is Kate Hudson, who is back for the second season of “Running Point,” in which she runs the family’s pro basketball team. There is yet another “Yellowstone” spinoff with “Dutton Ranch.” Meanwhile, “For All Mankind” is slowly winding down with its fifth season on Apple TV+, but fans won’t have to wait long for something fresh as its spinoff, “Star City,” is due out May 29 on the same platform. On the topic of spinoffs, “The Testaments”—set years after the events of “The Handmaid’s Tale” and continuing its narrative—has been off to a strong start. Also returning is the second season of the now-anthology series “Beef” with Oscar Isaac and his “Inside Llewyn Davis” co-star Carey Mulligan. We discuss these shows and more on this week’s episode. About the show Streamed & Screened is a podcast about movies and TV hosted by Bruce Miller, a longtime entertainment reporter who is the retired editor of the Sioux City Journal in Iowa and Terry Lipshetz, a senior producer for Lee Enterprises based in Madison, Wisconsin. The show was named Best Podcast in the 2025 Iowa Better Newspaper Contest. Theme music Thunder City by Lunareh, used under license from Soundstripe. YouTube clearance: FV694ULMCJQDG0IY

It's the Netflix comedy from Mindy Kaling starring Kate Hudson that is equal parts glossy, chaotic, and completely addictive. Yep, we’re diving headfirst into Running Point Season 2!It’s a sports show, a family mess, a workplace comedy, and a rom-com experiment all at once — and somehow we’re still fully invested. We unpack why Isla Gordon is such a compelling disaster of a lead, why Season 2 pushes her even further into chaos, and why we can’t decide if we want to be her or run from her.We get into the love triangle that keeps collapsing under its own “perfect vs passion” logic, why Lev stops feeling so perfect this season, and how Coach Jay suddenly becomes a lot more interesting than expected. Plus, the friendship storyline that quietly becomes the emotional centre of the entire season, Cam’s slow villain energy, and the cameos that feel like Mindy Kaling collecting icons for fun.And then there’s that finale — the betrayal, the twist, and the very obvious setup for Season 3 chaos.Love binge-watching TV? The Spill has launched a new podcast called Watch Party where we deep dive into the shows everyone’s talking about. Follow the feed on Apple or Spotify now. Plus remember The Spill drops the tea twice a day in this feed so follow us for all the latest entertainment news… OR you can WATCH our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and enjoy the watch! Link here. THE END BITS Find and follow us on socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thespillpodcast/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thespillpod Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thespillpodcast/ Read all the latest entertainment news on Mamamia: https://mamamia.com.au/entertainment/ Support Independent Women’s Media: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/ Your subscription helps us continue to tell the stories that matter to women. Want to join the conversation? Have feedback or a topic you want us to discuss? Send us a voice message or email us at thespill@mamamia.com.au and we’ll get back to you ASAP! Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Audio & Video Producer: Michael Kean Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast. From MoMA Mia. Welcome to This Spill, your daily pop culture fix. 00:05Speaker 2 I'm Laura Brodnick and I'm and Benham and welcome to a. 00:08Speaker 1 Very special episode of This Spill. We have been just hanging out to do this since we heard that this show was being made on Netflix, So welcome to our brutally honest review of Running Points Season two. I love this show, me too. 00:24Speaker 2 I love this show so much. 00:25Speaker 3 We talked about it, I think for a week in watch and a bit when the show started in season one when they had season one, but we never did a brially honest review in season one. 00:33Speaker 1 No, I know we didn't mind, Mae, because we did three episodes leading up. Well. 00:36Speaker 3 I think there was also a lot of content happening around the same time, and also not a lot of people were talking about it. I remember we were like, are we the only ones watching this? Because we really wanted to do a brilliant review and we thought not enough people were watching it to be interested in really interview. And then when Netflix put out their numbers for that year and Running Point was so high on the list of being like one of their most watch shows, we were like, oh, we have to do it. 00:59Speaker 2 For season two. 01:00Speaker 1 Yes, and so season two debuted about a week ago and ever since then it's been number one on Netflix in Australia for multiple, multiple days. So we know you crazy kids are watching it because you listen to us. 01:10Speaker 2 Make your last week. 01:11Speaker 1 Yeahs all these running points, super fans, No, I mean I feel like it sells itself. I mean it's a comedy starring Kate Hudson created by Mindy Kaling. Like the show sells itself. 01:20Speaker 2 It's like literally the perfect Vendi. 01:22Speaker 1 Yeah. So that was our initial attraction to the show. Well, when I heard Kate Hudson doing like a proper TV show for the first time comedy, I was in obviously the Mindy Kaling of it all, but also that it was so many of the creative team like Ike Baron Holtz, who co created the show with Mindy Kaling. It was so many of the same creative team from one of our joint favorite TV shows of all time, The MINDI Project. The Mind Guys, if you haven't watched The Mindy Project yet after all these years, what are you doing? 01:53Speaker 3 I even think And this might be an unpopular opinion that like the funniest funniest parts in running point, the show barely even touches the surface of how funny Mindy Project is, But you can so tell which jokes Mindy and Ike have written compared to the other writers on the show, because it's so like, specifically that really smart, quick sense of humor that they had on the Mindy Project. And it's so interesting because I'm looking at Kate's character in this show, she plays Isla Gordon, and I'm like, your character would have fitted perfectly within the Mindy Kayling universe in the Mindy Project. 02:27Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. 02:28Speaker 2 That's the thing. 02:29Speaker 1 Running point is very much I guess, like almost like the Little Sister of the MINDI Project, Like it's it's fun, but it's not. And I say this myself, who as a little sister's it's like great and fun, but just not quite. 02:41Speaker 2 As good as the original. I my younger sister to put it. As an oldest girl, I love that. 02:49Speaker 1 Well. The thing is, I'm not trying to diminish it, but the thing is, like, in my humble opinion, nothing else that Mindy Kaling has come close to being as perfect and hilarious as the MINDI Project. But that's not saying how the work is an incredible. It's like the MINDI project is like lightning at a bottle, Like you can't recreate it, you can't move it over to other projects. It's just like that bar is like in the Heaven. 03:11Speaker 3 It's like perfect humor, perfect storyline, perfect cast. 03:15Speaker 1 But it doesn't mean her other TV shows aren't great. It's like that's a special thing all of itself. So in season one, we were introduced to the Gordon family and the character of Isla Gordon, who was played by Kate Hudson, who's based on a real woman who took over Do you not know that? 03:28Speaker 3 I feel like I kind of I think you told me in season one and I had the same reaction. 03:33Speaker 1 Like what, I actually love this that I can tell you the same facts like multiple times and you'll give me a great reaction each time. 03:40Speaker 3 Because I think the first time you told me, I was like, oh, yeah, she's based on the Murdoch family, like Terry Boys. 03:46Speaker 1 Well, yeah, based on a woman who took over a family NBA team and like rows up the ranks to be like a really high like player in the National Basketball League in America, But a lot of it is fictionalized in terms of like all the party of girls stuff, brother going to jail, little legitimate child, like, all that stuff is just like a Mindy Kaling oh creation. So in season when we introduced to Aila Gordon, who I loved. She's like a messed up party girl heiress who was always just kind of on the outs of this extreme family business of owning this LA basketball team. And when her oldest brother Cam played by Justin Threw, and Justin Throw he loves a quirky role. Yeah, he's so good at them, just like he did the same thing in Devils prior to He's done the same thing so many times of the year. 04:30Speaker 2 But he has such like a serious demeanor. 04:33Speaker 1 Yeah, he looks so serious. He looks like a brooding heart. 04:36Speaker 2 He's really serious and scary. 04:37Speaker 1 And inside is just a little quirky character actor just waiting to get out. So he went to rehab and there was all this terrible stuff. 04:44Speaker 2 So that's not Justin Throw his character. Yeah, although maybe his method I don't know. 04:48Speaker 1 I don't know what he does in his spare time, probably running point method for imagine. 04:53Speaker 2 Telling the police. 04:54Speaker 1 I just I'm in this Many Kaling show. I started to my character, He's like, you guys, get it right, like absolutely not, You're going to jail. So we saw Eila take over the family business and have to kind of like prove herself to her brothers and also the basketball team. 05:09Speaker 2 And at the same time, she was. 05:11Speaker 1 In a relationship with lev played by Max Greenfield, who I love and adore so much. 05:16Speaker 3 His character is so similar to his character and your girl. 05:20Speaker 1 Oh really, I think opposite? 05:22Speaker 2 No way, How are they? How are they similar? 05:25Speaker 1 Because both love green juice. Okay, you're just that's literally every white man in LA. 05:31Speaker 3 They're both they're both obsessed with their partner, like he's obsessed. 05:34Speaker 1 With her, Yeah, but in a different way like he he Schmidt because if you haven't seen you girl, also, if you haven't seen you girl, also what are you doing? 05:41Speaker 2 So many recommendations? 05:42Speaker 1 That is also a top top tier comedy. Here's character of Schmidt on that is just one of those breakout stars from like one of those ensemble comedies that is like such a kind of like an individual thing that can't be recreated. Whereas Levins, like he does have that same kind of lovable energy. I guess that Schmidt does. But I think that's just Screenfield in general, because and hiss like a little smile. Again, that's just Max Greenfield's face, because whatever, Schmid's so like neurotic. 06:09Speaker 2 Yeah, but I feel like, you know, I'm gonna stick to my guy. Okay, you similar like. 06:14Speaker 3 I when I was watching him in Running Point, I'm like, I couldn't take Schmid out of my head. Maybe that's just because he is that character. 06:21Speaker 1 Yeah, well he does kind of create that character. 06:24Speaker 3 And like when you watch New Girl, it's hard to like separate them both. Yeah, but I do think he was perfectly cast for this role. 06:31Speaker 1 Well, the thing is, they wanted her love interest to kind of like again be a bit out of like this like every other all the other men in the show, like a bit douchey but also really power, like hungry with secrets and stuff. And Lev is meant to be sort of like this outside world of like an opposites of track, like iile agorded as this rich, kind of messed up woman who is also like a big theme of also season two was like she's a bad person, which is, you know, the whole kind of like thing that we see her go through, and Lev was kind of like this all too good to be true, nice doctor who cares about his family and cares about her and gives her second chances and like makes her coffee in the morning, and it's just always there in the background. And that's a very common rom com trope, which indicating loves to take a rom com troop and like put it in the show, but then like play off it in a bigger storyline because it's his idea of like, this is the perfect guy, but I'm not in love with him, as we find out in this season, and I can't force on paper he's perfect, but there's no like fire, yeah, which. 07:28Speaker 3 We kind of saw towards the end of season one where she kisses Jay like coach j Coach also very hot and attractive, but it was one of those storylines where you weren't like overtly rooting for them because Lev is such a good guy as well, yeah, and you like love them both so much, so it was very much like up to I guess her discretion on what she would do, and the audience would just like back whatever decision she made. And then I think that's where like season one ended, was her kissing Jay after Jay announcid he's moving to Boston and leaving the team, as well as us finding out that Justin Thurrow's character Cam is not as good as he seems. 08:10Speaker 1 Yes, because you thought at the in season one that he had, even though he'd done some bad things, that he had picked Eyelight to take over the family business because he really believed believe her. He was giving her a chance. It's only because he thought she would fail huge plot twists. In fact, Mindy Kayling said recently that they put a huge amount of cliffhangers at the end of season one of Running Point, because she's like, You've got to do that on a Netflix show. You've got to fill the last episode with cliffhangers so that the people at Netflix are forced to go, oh, okay, we'll do a second season then. And I was like, Mindy Kelling, just so you know, that only works for you. Yeah, when you have a TV show starring Kate Hudson. Do you know how many shows Netflix cancels famously, things like. 08:50Speaker 2 The Society mind Hunters. Yeah, exactly. They ruined people's lives. 08:55Speaker 1 They don't care if there's a plot twist at the end, they will cancel that shit. Even if either you end on the biggest plot twist ever and everyone's like oh again, like a society, they'll just be like cut sorry, it's good. Sorry. Sometimes Mindy Kelly doesn't know her privilege. 09:09Speaker 2 Oh my god, she's. 09:10Speaker 1 Out there being like me, playing a fun little game Netflix this little thing. 09:15Speaker 2 Yeah. 09:15Speaker 1 So again, that's why they ended season two on a plot twist that we'll get to because is like it's probably gonna get picked up, but it's at the time of recording, it's not official, but Mindy Kellings knows what she's doing. 09:26Speaker 2 It has to be a picked up. It will be. It has to be. 09:29Speaker 1 You don't cancel Kate Hudson's show. Ah, so we pick up in season two. 09:35Speaker 3 Yeah, we pick up in season two with Cam having been out of rehab and surprising the family. He's back in their office and he's like sitting in the islids like now, I guess his old office and that has made her own, and he asks for his job back now because she CEO. She's like, are you okay with working under me? 09:55Speaker 1 And he's huge when you're the big brother and like the patriarch of the family. 09:59Speaker 2 Exactly, and he was like yes, yes, yes, And then her other brothers are so excited to have him back. 10:05Speaker 3 And the beginning, we just see like Cam trying to merge himself with the family while also the audience know that he's not there on good terms for himself, Like we know he has like this underlining message he wants to like delivered to them, and we're trying. 10:17Speaker 2 To figure out what his play is. Yeah. 10:19Speaker 1 Yeah. 10:19Speaker 3 At the same time anyway, as that's happening, we also are with Eiler while she tries to find a new coach for their team, which is actually so funny, Like I found all the interview processes I did for the coaches were so funny. Ray Romano, Yeah kill that role. 10:39Speaker 1 I know, so good and so funny the way he because he was talking about getting the role when you're very Romano like he's just so humble, but also he knows his worth. He's like, my people told me that Mindy Kayling you want to be for a role, and I was like, yeah, I know him, Mindy Kaling, she's funny, I'll do it. And then he's it's so funny because he's also like I guess people just think he's just a bit of a comedy kind of person, but he's also like white an actory actor. Yeah, he's like, no, no, but normally I have to because apparently they're like, oh great, we're shooting next week. So he got the call and they booked him and they're like, oh great, so be on set next week. And he was like, wait, an actor needs time to prepare. He's like I usually like because I give myself a backstory and I think about it and I do research and. 11:15Speaker 2 All this topic. 11:16Speaker 1 I was like, oh my god, Ray Romano preparing for his roles is like someone make a documentary about that. 11:21Speaker 2 It's so bad. 11:22Speaker 3 And then like Ike Barnhost is probably like, this is a Mindy Kaling show. 11:25Speaker 2 You don't need to be doing. 11:26Speaker 1 So apparently he started researching like famous NBA coaches. And it's even weird that even I know this name, Greg Popovich, who was the San Antonio Spur, like a famous coach. 11:36Speaker 2 I don't know this. 11:37Speaker 1 Why don't it must have been it must have been referenced in like movies or something. Probably I didn't know what team he was and I've just heard that name. Maybe it's one of those names because he How many famous coaches are they? I'm sure in America heaps, but how many famous coaches names get used in TV? 11:50Speaker 2 Shows and movies. 11:51Speaker 1 That's true, so he modeled himself off him. Oh and that's a fun fact for the sports fans. And I just will clarify that's the last fun sports factor. 11:58Speaker 2 Okay, no sports fact. I had my mind and I just used it. I loved his character. 12:03Speaker 3 I love that his character had the potential to be so serious, but then the other characters pull him out of it. Like there's so many points where he tries to bring up his late wife who passed away, and all the other characters is like, we. 12:16Speaker 2 Don't have to. They're like, yeah, for your wife, caresn for your wife. Let's go. 12:21Speaker 1 I know. It's so funny because the thing is he does sentimental so well. So he has all those like when he comes in for his meeting, like he has all these like kind of bumbling moments. But then when you see like, yeah, he tells a story about his late wife, but then also knowing that he left his playbook behind. And I love the thing between him and Marcus where AILA's like you have to make him feel like your main girl. Raymond is like, I know his name's not Raymond over, you don't He's like, yeah, I get it. 12:45Speaker 2 I get it. 12:45Speaker 3 Like Marcus, You're my main girl, and Marcus is like, who's like the star player, He's like okay. 12:50Speaker 1 Gets thrown off the court to look after him. So yeah, there's a lot of kind of movement in the team and in the business as they kind of start putting the new team together, getting a coach, and also looking towards the playoffs. Yeah, sports jargon. 13:02Speaker 3 The best thing about Mindy Kaling shows and Running Point does this so well is like there's always a female lead, Like all her shows have a female lead, and that female lead has at least five problems happening at the same time exactly. So you're seeing like this really beautiful, put together woman just have these like frantic moments of all of these things happening in her life. Like she's having to deal with a new coach, she's a sponsorship with the team, her love life is in perils, she has to plan a wedding, best friend Ali is trying to join a different team. 13:32Speaker 1 Yeah, so she's got all of these. 13:33Speaker 3 Things happening and they're all snowballing into each other exactly, and like it's only specific type of person can do those roles, which is why I'm so glad Kate Hudson is like the main character of that role because I feel like all the leading women in Mindy Kaling's projects have been the best at that type of person. 13:49Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly, Yeah, Mindy Hellings. 13:51Speaker 2 It's such a specific thing. 13:52Speaker 1 I can't even describe a Mindy Kayalen leading lady, but I would say fashionably dressed, yeah, running somewhere, dropping things, spilling a coffee and having a hand. 14:00Speaker 2 It's a man treat. 14:00Speaker 1 Her badly but also be in love with her. That's because Mindy Kaling is like, she is a die hard romantic comedy fan. She's watched every romantic comedy, study them, she used to watch them over and over again as a kid, and she just wanted to live in one so badly that she created the Mindi Project, which is just a TV series that's one big, long romantic comedy set in New York. But the twist is the character would never be in a traditional rom com because she's an awful person and famously rom com women are like in a lot of the old school rom coms are just like they're clutch in sweet, but sometimes a little bit bland and sometimes not quite like they're Yeah, they never do the wrong thing because rom COM's taught us like you have to kind of be a bit perfect and like the man will eventually realize he's actually in love with you plot. 14:46Speaker 3 Twist and it's a really cute and like mousey yeah, and like her co worker is like calling her big l. 14:54Speaker 2 She's like, I'm not big, al I'm a tiny age and they're like, yeah, you are big. I'm wasting away. 15:00Speaker 1 And that's the thing about the MINDI character and the MINDI project is like she's so unlikable and that's why she made her a doctor because she's like, oh, this woman's gotta have unlikeable in the best way possible. 15:10Speaker 2 We love her. 15:11Speaker 1 It's just like a traditional Romcom lady wouldn't be pulling the stunt set. Actually Lindy pulls in that show. And so she made her a doctor because she's like, oh my god, this one's gotta have one like kind of redeeming thing about her. Even if sometimes she's like, oh you do have insurance, she's like, oh, you're gonna do it tonight and lost at home. 15:31Speaker 2 Watch. 15:32Speaker 1 So she's not the doctor you'd call, but I guess if she was there, she would. 15:35Speaker 2 Yeah. 15:36Speaker 1 So I like characters kind of meant to be that, And I love that she does have this redemption where she does decide to try and be a better person, but she's still a bit of a shitty person all the way through. And I love that about her because if she had this complete personality change, it wouldn't work. 15:51Speaker 3 It wouldn't work, and it also just wouldn't be good content. Like you want to kind of like have this like push and pull against the main character where it's like a very clever way of writing a main character where everything about them you hate, but you're rooting for them so hard. 16:06Speaker 1 Yeah, And I'm always rooting Foriler, except every time she says I'm a bad person, I'm like, yeah, girl, yeah, but not a bad person, just a bad person. And just like when they show them montage of her doing bad things like stealing a sandwich or stopping a chair and stuff, and they're just like, yeah, that's weird. 16:20Speaker 2 Love that I've never changed. 16:22Speaker 1 The biggest sign to me they were trying this season to kind of paint her as someone who used to be a bad person is trying to get better is the fact that they point out that before she met Ali, she never had a female friend is like you just know as a girl, that's the worst thing you can say to another girl. It's like you're not a girl's girl. Women don't like you. And usually in a movie and TV show, that's the biggest red flag for a character like that would be the villain, not the main character. 16:47Speaker 2 That's so true, and they really showcase that with It makes you think about season one. 16:52Speaker 3 You're like, oh, yeah, I guess she's like so successful in this world because you would see I guess quote unquote past shots of her like bringing her friends into the basketball stadium and stuff, but you never really see the friends. 17:04Speaker 2 Yeah. You always just see her hanging out. 17:06Speaker 3 In the locker rooms with the players and like her dad and her brothers and stuff like that. But you like don't hear about her mum or any other women in her life besides Allie, who's honestly, Brenda's song is like amazing in this it was only because they had to live together in Uni, so like their friendship was kind of forced upon each other. Yeah, but then like Alie literally becomes her person. 17:29Speaker 1 Yeah, And I do love that because it's also saying like, yeah, this is that woman that you get warned about that. And again, we know so many of those women who hang out with their family or their partner and that's it. Yeah, and they're kind of stuck in that world because and that's the interesting thing about the Gordon family in this is they are that very specific family that everyone knows a family like this where they're kind of all terrible and they hate each other, but they just don't have anyone else. Yeah, so they have to Gordon family, always coming back together and having each other's backs, like, oh, it's us or nothing. 17:57Speaker 2 Yeah, that's so true and I love that. 17:59Speaker 1 And yeah, again, Eiler is that very specific character where she's just like, girls don't like me, and yeah, we sometimes see her with a group of friends, but it's very specifically that thing of like party friends. 18:08Speaker 2 Yeah, like you can like a rich people friends. 18:10Speaker 1 Rich people friends where you know, like Isla Gordon's got the bottle service, she's got the table, she's gonna like you can take her car there, you know what I mean. Like she's those people like I'm sure half those girls don't even have her number and she doesn't know their names. They're just like her party girlfriends that latched onto her when she was like young in. 18:26Speaker 3 Her ghost clubs, which is why I like the friendship episode with Alie started off so strong with showing their backstory of how they became friends, and then we find out that Ali has been asking for a promotion. Firstly, asking for a promotion from your best friend must be like insane. 18:41Speaker 1 Yeah, when your best friend becomes your boss, which is something that happens in workplaces because you bond and become friends with the people. 18:47Speaker 2 Especially for the only two women working in that workplace. 18:50Speaker 1 And she has become like part of the family to an extent, and you can see that in the way like Ness and Cam to an extent, but he's a bit evil. But like how like Kness and Sandy have a back and forth with her, Like it's very brother sister. Yeah, like they're so mean to her, but they're only mean to her because they kind of treat her like Isler and they call her out and stuff. 19:07Speaker 2 It's very brotherly. 19:08Speaker 3 Also equals, right, Yeah, it was like her and Ali aren't exactly equals when it comes to that like hierarchy of power, which is why when Alie said that she's going to Canada, Yeah, she's going to Canada because she got a new opportunity that has more money, and like Ila's team could not pay her the same amount, and Eila just couldn't like work out why she was leaving, and she was like, you're leaving because you hate me, and al He's like, if you're a good friend, you'd congratulate me. 19:36Speaker 2 Yeah, And it just shows that, like how she's. 19:38Speaker 3 Just been living in that world a privilege for so long. Yeah, that like I think it was the first time that Eyler realized that Alie is not on her level. 19:46Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. And also because it was so interesting how their like flashback scenes of them as college roommates set up their dynamic of the fact that Allie was the first person who didn't give a crap that she was Isla Gordon or Isla Gordon, and she's like, hey, Islam who didn't kind of give a crap that she was this rich, like party girl, that she came from a well known family and just well she didn't like her at first, which is in the chasing there was a classic like you know, opposite and then they watched slowly become friends that scene where they're crying together watching a movie and it and they're like he can't see without these glasses, and it flashes to my girl is so good, especially because Macaulay Culkin wanted a bigger part this season and he only got for anyone who doesn't know, I'm sure people do, but Macaulay Culkin is Brenda Song's partner and they have two children together and madly, madly in love. 20:40Speaker 3 And they're also both massive basketball fans, every single and she's. 20:45Speaker 2 A bigger fan than him. 20:46Speaker 1 Do you know that once in the Lakers game she had to be hospitalized because she was watching the game and she became so like fraught watching it, and then she took a sip of water and they scored, and then she was like, oh my god, you have like sports people are very superstitious, and they're like, if I won this day, I've got to wear the same underwear or drive the same way to work, or like put the same stick on or whatever it is. And she was like, oh my god, every time they should have just so she was hyperventilating and taking a sip of water to help them score, to the point where she like nearly stopped breathing and had to go to the emergency room. 21:12Speaker 2 Brenda song Man just just a girl, just a girl who loves it. 21:15Speaker 3 Was so funny when I was watching the like part of the promo for this season. Yeah, Kate Hudson and Brenda Song had to go to a few NBA games and sit like in the like celebrity see, like on the court and like Brenda songs like jumping up and down and like. 21:29Speaker 2 Yelling at the players and pointing, and you can hear Kate Hudson just sitting next to her and she's just like, you're crazy. Yeah, she was like, I didn't sign up at this level of promo. 21:38Speaker 1 And so when they went to that movie and crying, it's cute because that's Brenda Song's partner or pot we culked, and he gets a few little cameos in, but like he was gunning. Apparently he was gunning for a big partner, like we'll see you next season. So that's cute. So yes, so we see there's this whole story about like a headhunter's in town. Yes, this headhunter who's going to come and take the team away. 21:56Speaker 2 Did you recognize him? 21:57Speaker 1 I did, reckon absolutely, I really jumped off my chair because guys, he's from the MINDI Project. He's so in the fans. So the actor's name is Tommy Dewey and he plays Magnus in Running Points. So he's from the Toronto Trappers. I'm sure if that's a real team, and do you know what, I don't think it is, and I decided not to look it up because I didn't. 22:18Speaker 2 Want to ruin the magic yea. 22:20Speaker 1 And so he's called the Poacher, So he was, And there's just that was actually quite a good plot twist because they're like, they thought he was coming to take a player from their team, and then he wasn't. And so it cuts to the Gordon siblings and they're like, but if it wasn't for that, why was he here? And then it cuts to him offering her this job? 22:36Speaker 3 And isn't it so funny that that was his exact character in The MINDI Project. 22:40Speaker 2 He like managed an NBA team and he would be at all these parties. 22:44Speaker 1 No Mindy Kayling knows what she's doing. So yeah, he played Josh in The MINDI Project and he was one of Mindy Kayling's many love interests. But he had a couple of seasons up, yeah, and then he left when his girlfriend showed up, played by Ellie Kemper, who is Mindy Kaling's very good friend and a coast on the off and he was dating the Tools at the same time, and they have this massive fight, remember when she has to handcuff Midy Kelly handcuffs Ellie Kemper. But I always remember him from one of the very best scenes ever in the MINDI Project, where she goes, oh, after they've like woken up together. She goes, Oh, let me throw on your shirt. 23:18Speaker 2 It'll be so over I was talking about. She's like, oh, let me throw on your shirt. 23:25Speaker 1 It'll be so oversized on me because I'm so dainty to be so sexy. She puts on like fits perfectly, but just a little snug. Then he's like, what happened to my jeans? He puts on her jeans and again they fit. 23:38Speaker 2 And he was like, oh they fit me, and she starts screaming. 23:40Speaker 1 She's like it was so it's the funniest thing ever. And it's because like in your head, you're just like I'm living in a rom com in the rear. It's just like, absolutely not. 23:51Speaker 2 I love that. Let me put this on to be so dainty. 23:54Speaker 1 And so that's his whole character, is that he offers Allie this job that she can't turn down, and that causes that huge falling out between Ali and Isla. And it's the worst falling out of the show because, as we know, like falling up the family member, fine ya, falling up the love interest encouraged fully out of your best friend, especially when you've aready got one. 24:13Speaker 3 Oh heart breaking, heartbreaking, And they really pushed that storyline because I'm just gonna say it. 24:20Speaker 2 Alie was in Toronto for way too long. What she's there for one episode? No, it felt way too okay, Like she fully. I was like, oh my god, Isla, stop her at the door, stop her? Oh okay, and then she's like fully in a different country. She had to go. Actually, they made it so dark. 24:34Speaker 3 There's dark and gloomy and blue, and the poacher only cared about what Isla thought of her leaving. 24:41Speaker 2 Did Eila crime, She's scream. 24:44Speaker 1 So I thought it needed more of a build up than which they would just I thought the whole Gordon in my head, this is the note I had in my head. The whole Gordon family would just fall apart without her not realizing that she was the lynch pin or not holding the entire company together, because I do think that's true, and also holding the family together, and all these boys who are mean to her and had taken her for granted would also go with Island to apologize to her. That was my fantasy, which happened, But it was enough when Ilan went. It was enough when Island and they had their friendship moment and She's. 25:13Speaker 2 Like, how did you get in here? 25:15Speaker 1 It's no small planes. 25:16Speaker 2 Did you fly commercial? 25:18Speaker 1 You're like, yeah, that is the whip put in near the bathroom. That is the world we're dealing with. And at the same time as all that's happening, Cam is slowly but surely being the super villain of the season. 25:30Speaker 3 Oh I love him though, justin Thrower, he's so funny in this. So we find out that Cam is trying to take back his place as CEO, and he's doing it through like very discreete insidious ways where he's slowly trying to make decisions on behalf of Isler. Like firstly he tried to hire his own coach and was just saying, this is what we're doing now, and Isla was like, no, we're not doing that. And then he tried to get his own sponsor on and Isla was like. 25:57Speaker 1 No, which his own sponsor our fly? Can I give him a shout out? 26:01Speaker 2 Yeah? 26:01Speaker 1 Because do you know who that is? Yes, that is one of my favorite actors of all time. 26:04Speaker 2 That is Ken Marino. Where he's your favorite actor just in so many. 26:08Speaker 1 Things, so funny, so funny. So he plays a really iconic role in for Roddi Kamas. He's the rival private investigator to Rodi Kammas and her dad. 26:18Speaker 2 Just so funny. That's just so weird. Yeah, a lot of the times. So he's always like kind of like and again he's just he always plays like a goofy bad guy. 26:25Speaker 1 He plays like he always plays like the worst person who's also secretly hilarious. So when I saw him pop up, I was like, well, dog mindy Kayley. And he was also in that like iconic series like Party Down. 26:34Speaker 2 Yeah, he's just in Brooklyn, My night. 26:36Speaker 1 Yeah he's been You look for a really good comedy show and he's in it. He's like one of those comedy actors who just like everyone calls him to be in their show. So when he rocked up, I'm like, now we're going Now this is a show. 26:48Speaker 2 Now this is. 26:48Speaker 3 Happening when he rocked up too, because he sponsors the company on behalf of toilets. 26:54Speaker 1 Yeah, so he owns a toilet company. No, No, he's a he's I guess he does all the in the stadium. He owns like a toilet company that installs. Yeah, that owns all the pipes and toilets and stuff like that. So and he's a season ticket holder. 27:08Speaker 2 Yeah. And he's obsessed with the team. 27:10Speaker 1 And so he donates money to them and stuff. 27:12Speaker 3 And he keeps wanting more and more and more, and they're like, no, no, no, you can't sit courtside that You're not a celebrity, you're just a billionmaire. 27:20Speaker 1 And then he becomes like a co conspirator with Kim. 27:23Speaker 3 He does, and they become buddy buddy. At the same time, Eiler is trying to get their existing sponsor to stay on, so they have. 27:32Speaker 2 A family basketball playoff. 27:35Speaker 1 Okay, I freaking loved this. 27:38Speaker 2 Oliver Hudson. 27:41Speaker 1 No, that's so because it was because there wasn't inter you with Kate Hudson. They were saying, like, oh, Ali should have been in there because she's practically family, and Kate Hudson's like, no, I know, but like the rule was so clearly that they had to be family, and she's like to the point where we got my real life family in there. So that is her brother Oliver Hudson and I weirdly know so much about their sibling dynamic because they have a siblings podcast. 28:02Speaker 2 They do have a podcast. You listen to it, No, because it's wild. 28:06Speaker 1 I don't think Hate's been on it for a really long time because she's booked and busy now. 28:09Speaker 2 But there was a great he's just soloing it. 28:12Speaker 1 Yeah, sometimes he solos. He did a really good episode with Blake Lively sister where they're justalking about a siblings are more famous than us? 28:18Speaker 2 Oh, I mean I like that younger brother Wyatt. 28:21Speaker 1 No, because why it's also working. 28:24Speaker 2 You know what he's working on What Monarch? Your favorite show? 28:30Speaker 1 So they have to have this family basketball thing because they have to have a thing over the rent of a stadium to this other basketball family. 28:37Speaker 2 No, it's a hockey fan. 28:39Speaker 1 Sorry, please forgive me. 28:41Speaker 3 It's a hockey family who are like wanting to invest in that who in that space. So they're like rivaling and they had like this weird bet going on. What's funny is that Oliver husband's playing for the other family. 28:52Speaker 1 Yeah, because he's playing a different thing. 28:53Speaker 2 Which is so funny because then they bring in Barrett Hole. 28:56Speaker 1 Oh my god, can we talk me that for a second. So again, finally I've been waiting for him to get on my screen. Yeah, exactly, because he was on the MINDI Project with Mindy Kley and they have a great professional relationship together where they create together and he is the co creator, co writer all the things of writing point and they had been talking for a while about if they would co star, if they would like make a cameo, would they act on it, because up until then they were like no, no, no, we're just behind the scenes. And then I said he started to get really kind of just being like, oh, I want to be on the screen. 29:27Speaker 2 I want to be in the because he wants to. 29:28Speaker 1 Be like famous, cause he's already famous and he's like in the studio and stuff. But he more SOO was getting jealous of the actors because they're think such a good time. Than he found out the actors had a text chain that was just for the actors, and every time he saw the message on it, he was like, I want to get in on that, and so in his mind he was like, what if I played the coach of a rival basketball team and I had a love affair with Kate Hudson, And what about that dynamic? It's a will they won't they? And Mindy Kaling said, yeah, or you play their cousin and you're the. 29:58Speaker 2 Dumbest person in the world. And so that is he plays. 30:03Speaker 1 Their cousin, and he's just so creepy and wonderful. He plays his exact character as Morgan, but with a slight he's like, he said, from his point of view, he was playing it like this cousin character has sexual tension with his cousin Aila. So he's like, just in his head, just so gross. And he said, there's a scene where his character, I can't even think of his name. I just think of him as like his Eyke Baron in this Cousin Ike. And there's a scene where he comes over to massage Kate Hudson's shoulders, and he wanted to make her freaked out every time because she's meant to be repulsed by it, which is like fair enough, she's meant to repulse by it, And so every time he did it, he would dip his hands in like a little bit of warm water, so when he went over, his hands were warm and wet. 30:46Speaker 2 And that's why I'm in And. 30:47Speaker 1 The first time she did it, she went ah, And that's the take. That's why she looks so freaked out. 30:51Speaker 2 That's so funny, but you can malage you mention it. I have like on the. 30:55Speaker 3 Basketball in that basketball scene where like he's like dying on the ground and he's like, I help me up, but she just walks me. 31:02Speaker 2 So gross. 31:02Speaker 1 Also, can we talk about, sorry, I'm not feeling the sexual tension between her and the coach of the one she ends up with. Can I tell you who she had wild sexual tension with? Is Scott's Speedman? 31:13Speaker 2 Yeah? 31:14Speaker 1 The actor Scott Speedman. I mean not what the actor. The actor is Scott Speedsman, but he plays the head of the rival family that they and their sexual tension so horeririble. I love Mindy Kelling so much because he's a real nineties early two thousand's heart throm and that's exactly when she would have been in her like, I don't I've seen him before, really, Scott Speedman a little show called Felicity. 31:39Speaker 2 I haven't watched it. 31:41Speaker 1 What I know underworld movies, other things, he's been what's okay, Wow, that was so her fe. 31:47Speaker 2 I've seen him in Running Point. 31:48Speaker 1 I think he's on Greasy Anatomy right now playing meritiths love interest right now. Yeah, right now, he's just going between shows being a love interest, because that's what Scott Speedman does. He's the ultimate love interest. He comes on the screen and everyone like, that's who you fall in love with. He does actually play a bad boy like this. 32:03Speaker 3 Though, that is quite likely and it's not just a bad boy, but he's like I don't know, like when that scene where like her car has a flat tire, Yeah, and then he starts like flirting with her a bit to get butterflies. 32:16Speaker 1 Yeah, that's the thing. They have such good sexual chemistry and sometimes you just can't will that into existence there it's not So I want him to come on next season when season three inevitably happens, and be the love interest for her, because now we've got tension, now we've got stakes. And also I can read Mindy Kayaling like a book, mostly because I wrote all her books multiple times, and I know that she loves will they won't they enemies to love the story. 32:43Speaker 2 Her whole MINDI project was all will they won't they? 32:45Speaker 1 Yeah? Because the MINDI Oh my god, you know how the other day I said to you, Bridget Jones is based on pride and prejudice. Yes, do you know that the MINDI Project is also based on pride? I know that, Thank gosh, Oh my god, embarrassing. I'm like your mind you just pass away. If anyone's listened to that an episode or seeing that video that went quite via, Oh my god, Emily loses her mind because she didn't know that Bridgittan's Diary was based on briden Bridge. 33:11Speaker 2 Go look at the video on our Instagram page. You can fight with everyriend in the comments. 33:14Speaker 1 Everyone who's like opened the schools. So I loved that, and like all the cameos this year was so good. The other cameo I loved before we move on to the downfall of Eiler in Love, which is the next moment after this, The other cameo I loved and again and Mindy Kelly and I are the same. 33:28Speaker 2 Person is Nicole Richie. Oh my god, yes, I forgot I was in there. 33:33Speaker 1 Nicole Richie is such an elusive being. 33:35Speaker 2 She's really good in it. 33:37Speaker 1 No, she's good. She If anybody who doesn't know the I mean, you know who Nicole Richie is. 33:41Speaker 2 If you don't, it's hard to. 33:42Speaker 1 Explain unless you were there, unless you're a teen girl or a young woman in the early two thousands, it's hard to explain the power of Nicole Richie because for a long time there she was the ultimate girl, the ultimate taste maker. And unfortunately it did happen after she lost a huge amount of weight and also committed a few crimes. Yeah, drug beast, and then went to court, went to jail all those things. Was one of those jail you know, like for a while that like Chloe Kardashi and Lindsay Low and Nicole Richie all in jailed. 34:15Speaker 3 Like me, and they all had like these dark gray underbags, but like smiling and. 34:19Speaker 1 They take their mugshots. So she went through a lot of shit. She went through a lot of shit, which she's been opened about. But then she became this glamorous fashion it girl, and she was in the whole like Rachel Zoe co hole. She was. Yeah, she was a zobot and dressed in a very specific way, but everything about her she wasn't a manufactured it girl, like she was the old cool it girl. Like everyone got a rosary beat. I mean, not me, but if my mum would let me, I would have. She has a rosary beat around her and cool tattooed falling down to her foot. Coolest thing ever she wore, like all the headbands that she used to tie on her hair. I used to do that and I used to also, and I lived in Townsville, so what was I doing. I used to lay in necklaces like herd okay leggings and the like kind of like lacy singlet tops and the massive handbags. 35:05Speaker 2 And it was such a moment. 35:07Speaker 1 And even when she had her kids and she named her daughter like Harlow Winter Kate Madden, and I was like, why is that the coolest baby name? Now she goes by Kate, which I actually find disrespectful. 35:18Speaker 2 Kate, Yeah, that's so many other names. 35:20Speaker 1 And then girl, I'm like, imagine being called Harlow Winter Kate and being like going to school and being like call me Kate. 35:26Speaker 2 I would say, no offense. My sister's name is Kate. I just like that. 35:29Speaker 1 I remember when that name Everyone's like, that is the coolest name. I've ever heard, and now she has like the jewelry brand, the fashion business and stuff because people just still want to look like Nicole Richie to this day. And I was never sure if she was a good actress. But then she did a guest in on the show he was obsessed with called Chuck, where she played like this evil got that she only like for oneiso. Okay, she played the evil high school nemesis of the lead girl, and she was so funny and good on it, so I feel like, but she doesn't do anything like that anymore. So the fact that she came in did a cameo for Running Point was so good and again played a nemesis one episode. 36:00Speaker 2 Oyah, she's so good. 36:02Speaker 1 And that I was like, Mindy Kayling, I just again, I get you. Mindy Tayling's like I want the heartthrow I grew up with and the cool girl I grew up with in my show. 36:09Speaker 2 Yes, that's so true. Okay, moving on to the. 36:15Speaker 1 The ill fated wedding of Eiler and Love. Did you think they were going to get married? I thought I had seen obviously there's stills of her trying on the wedding dress, so I thought we were actually getting a wedding. 36:26Speaker 2 Well, the wedding was such like a subplot. 36:29Speaker 3 Yeah, I feel like this whole season her romantic life was a subplot, Like it wasn't the biggest thing that was going on. If it was happening in season one, I feel like there would have been more tension with. 36:38Speaker 1 A wedding happened. 36:39Speaker 3 Yeah, But I didn't really feel the tension of will it won't it at all, Like I completely forgot it was happening until we get to the night before the wedding, which I loved. I love when the brothers got up on stage and did their Scottish Dad. 36:51Speaker 2 It was so good. It was so good. 36:53Speaker 3 And also I think seeing the four of them up there reaffirmed the idea to the audience that it is crazy that she is CEO of the company. 37:01Speaker 1 Yeah, and there's like four guys who are working for her exactly exactly, but it was so well done. 37:07Speaker 3 And then in the at the end where she like opens the ring and sees the ring that Coach Jay had given her for like the for winning and that was like the catalyst of her breaking up with Lev. And that is when Lev says you are a bad person. I know, which is the worst and you can ever say to a significant other. 37:30Speaker 1 And the thing is, I think we'd had this character thread with her. It's like she had done bad things in her past. Sometimes she did bad things now, but she had this guy that was so good and he loved her, so by extension, she too must be good. And I think she was really hanging on to that, and that's why she was pushing forward the wedding and everything. And also there's so many jokes. They don't say how old she is, but Kate Hudson is late forties, and so the character you've got to think his late thirties or early forties. You know what that means in a rom coom in life at any time, but especially in her realm, they're like, girl, get married, what's wrong with you? 38:04Speaker 2 And so she's also got. 38:05Speaker 1 This thing of is like she's like, I need to marry this man because he's good and he's so different to all the terrible men I'm surrounded with my family, like love them, but like her brother's open and her dad. 38:13Speaker 2 Was an awful person, and her mum. 38:15Speaker 1 By all accounts like, but she's like, I'm marrying this good guy, so I'm different to you, and I'm finally doing the right thing after being a washed up party girl for so many years, that I'm finally doing the right thing by getting married and letting all of that go was like a huge character arc for her, and a much bigger character art than getting married, I think, because it was her letting go of everything that made her good and right and having to just be like, and I'm just gonna be this new person I am who tries to do the right thing but still steals the sandwich. 38:42Speaker 2 Oh yeah, yeah. 38:43Speaker 3 And you can tell, like in that breakup that they're having where I was like meant to be a conversation. He when he says I think you might be a bad person, he knows, like that's the worst thing he could say he could say to her, because he's known like forever. She just wanted to prove that she was a good person, and like he knew that would be like the final thing and then he blocked her on. 39:03Speaker 1 Into which again, the worst thing you can do is you can do and say this. But I understand again I'm saying from a storytelling point of view, because Minny Kaylene, like she knows in her head she's got that third season, and just for the rom com premise to work around this basketball show, she needs to be single so that she can have the back and forth with the coach, so she can hopefully have the back and forth with Scott Speedman and she can you know, having her like happily married doesn't fit with where this story needs to go. So then we get into the final act, which is cam Like showing his hand that he's also back on drugs and using Jackie for his urine. 39:35Speaker 2 Jackie, he says that whole thing. 39:37Speaker 1 So we obviously we got not as much Jackie this season. We had the whole subplot with the dancers. I like that, which she was like, I'm like, I'm sorry, is this a Dallas cheerleaders documentary? 39:46Speaker 2 I don't know where they got that? 39:47Speaker 3 Plus and also so fair, And then we got to see Kate hasn't dance. 39:51Speaker 1 Yeah, so so funny about that because she said that was the scene that she was the most nervous about, was dancing with the cheerleaders. And she's a trained dancer because she's all saw a trained see I don't know if you've seen her dance in nine Glee, you've seen a dance in Glee. 40:04Speaker 2 I her dancing in Glee. Oh my god, go after this, straight after this. I remember her and Glee. What I remember Gwyneed Paltrow and Glee. Yeah, okay. 40:13Speaker 1 So in Glee, Kate Hudson played Cassandra July. And when Rachel Barry, Lee Michelle's character moves to New York, she's her teacher. But they have they hate each other at first of her back and forth and at one point they have a dance and song off to all that jazz from Chicago, and it's actually the greatest scene ever. You need to watch it because they're having a dance battle. 40:32Speaker 2 It's so good. 40:33Speaker 1 Okay, And Kate Hudson's a trained dancer and singer, but she hadn't danced for a really, really long time. She's professionally singing now for the first time ever. She was too scared to do it before her forties. She's so good. Kate Hudson can start becoming a singer in her forties. I know she's Kate Hudson, but I think we can just all do whatever we want. 40:50Speaker 2 We can all do whatever. That's what I'm taking away from her. Whatever age. 40:53Speaker 1 So they showed her the dance so Kate Hutson said, she got to set, they had the dances, they did the dance and she's like, oh, that looks kind of hard, but yeah, I can do it. When are we shooting? And they're like, oh, tomorrow. So she learned that whole dance in twenty four hours. The girl can dance. 41:07Speaker 2 Yeah, she is talented. So I love that. 41:10Speaker 1 So Jackie's other main storyline, apart from the fact that his girlfriend was like leading a Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders coup over fair pay and fair working conditions, that part where they're like getting dressed in the alley and stuff was so funny is that he also was pulled into Cam's web of lies and having to give him urinec heare. 41:29Speaker 2 And like jump out a window so we want to get caught. 41:32Speaker 1 My funniest line of the season came after that when Ness who is such a good character and this is not even a funny line, but it made me laugh out loud, where they're like, oh, he jumped out of the window because he was looking at a bird, and he's we've got to get those windows speaks. He's like, yeah, we love birds, but we love brothers more. 41:48Speaker 2 Like you're so stupid. His lines are so funny, he's his only funny lines. 41:52Speaker 1 It's just so so good. And then we find out what Cam's been planning, that he's going to overthrow the company, and it's such a kind of great moment when Ali and I like kind of band together to overthrow him and get their own like sponsors and get everything sorted and that ness and Sandy and I also love Standy this season. I thought I wanted him to have this big romantic story arc and I'm sorry his lover left him to be on Lisa in a another great cameo. 42:15Speaker 2 He has shown like, oh he's so cute. I do love Sandy. 42:21Speaker 1 I know, I love I love because his whole thing is like, I'm not that type of gay, because it would be the whole thing for a show to have that like very stereotypical flamboyant gay character. And I love that they've just like he's just got this full accountant yeah, and he's just like kind of this like gruff businessman who just happens to also be gay. But I also love the idea of out of the whole family because sometimes they sort of treat him as like, oh, you're the stoic one, you're this, you're that, like you're the serious one. I really wanted him to be the only one that had this beautiful romance and it didn't really work out maybe a season, but. 42:52Speaker 2 The whole family was going through the season. 42:54Speaker 1 The whole family really went through the ring up and then the part where Ness and Sandy choose to stand by Isil or not I thought was the ultimate kind of like build up moment for this season. 43:03Speaker 3 Yeah, and then like took away from like season one where it was like Bro's band together, Yeah, where like she actually proved her worth and they really found newfound respect for her, not just as like a younger sister, but just as like a business partner. 43:17Speaker 2 Yeah. 43:17Speaker 3 I was so nervous in this season, like Mindy Kayling would do that trick where she's just like not boys will be boys, Like these are the worst men ever. 43:25Speaker 2 We just have to live with that. 43:26Speaker 3 And I'm glad they came around because I don't think I could have dealt with another like annoying brother sister things. 43:32Speaker 1 Yeah, we need to see a little bit of growth from the season one finale to this season two finale. 43:35Speaker 2 I think we got that. 43:36Speaker 1 So where do you think season three is gonna go after that. 43:40Speaker 3 Oh the cliffhanger for the last episode. Also, I have to talk about when Jay and Isla were making out on the couch and I walked in. 43:48Speaker 2 And took form, like I thought we were gonna go Skinny Saunery. 43:53Speaker 1 Yeah, He's like, we go ski to be like yeah here. 43:58Speaker 3 So it ends after they win the playoffs against Boston, which. 44:02Speaker 1 Was so good because that's why you watch a sports show, Like I didn't care about actual sports, but it's so hooked to like life and death, human emotion, triumph over adversity, all those things. 44:10Speaker 2 So good. 44:11Speaker 3 It was like down to like the last second and they scored and one and that was like Jay's team, and you can see him getting kind of like giving her like a weird look and then storming off and then they just partied really hard. 44:24Speaker 2 They all woke up so drunk. 44:26Speaker 3 The next morning in Eli's house, Jackie comes running in and turn on the TV and it's this big press conference where it's announced that Cam and Al are starting their own LA basketball team to rival the Waves. 44:41Speaker 2 And their head coach is j Yeah, that's crazy, the ultimate brother lover. 44:47Speaker 1 Betraying me and I have like wearble their romans. They're like Romeo and Juliet now that they're on proper like rival team. So yeah, so season three it. 44:56Speaker 2 Just ends with going motherfucker. 44:58Speaker 1 Yeah, so good. She's so angry and hate Hudson does angry so well. So yes, humps for season three. I think it'll be really fun. Indy Kelly will get her way. She's like, take that plot twist, Netflix, Oh my god, and Mindy get on screen. 45:11Speaker 2 Please. 45:12Speaker 1 Yeah. 45:13Speaker 2 I beg you, I beg you. No, she's got an idea. 45:16Speaker 1 She's gonna play ix side piece because she's like, what's worse than playing like the worst t emn ever? Playing the side piece of the worst funny. 45:25Speaker 2 I love them together. 45:26Speaker 1 She's joking, but I'm also like, don't toy with me, make that happen. 45:29Speaker 2 No, I would love that. I want them to have their own storyline. Yeah, do a spit please. Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today. 45:38Speaker 3 Do not forget. On Monday morning, on Morning Dose of Entertainment News, morning tea drops right here in this feed at seven am, just hit follow so you do not miss a thing. The Spill is produced by Venitius Wine, with video production by Michael Keane, we will see you next week. 45:53Speaker 2 Bye bye,Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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On this episode of The Movie Podcast, Daniel and Shahbaz are joined by Kate Hudson and Brenda Song to talk all things Netflix's RUNNING POINT Season 2. In latest season, Isla Gordon (Kate Hudson) is no longer the surprise choice to lead the Los Angeles Waves, she's the one everyone is watching. With the franchise finally rebounding after last year's scandal, Isla is determined to prove she's not just keeping the seat warm for her brother Cam (Justin Theroux). As she tries to balance the pressure of running a franchise with devoting time to her personal life, every decision on and off the court counts. To survive the family power plays and the scrutiny of the board, she'll have to rip up last season's game plan and come up with a whole new playbook if she wants to close out the season on top. Running Point Season 2 is now streaming on Netflix. Watch and listen to The Movie Podcast now on all podcast platforms, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TheMoviePodcast.ca⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Check out our new ⁠⁠⁠⁠The Movie Podcast Clips Channel!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Contact: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠hello@themoviepodcast.ca⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠FOLLOW US⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Daniel on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Letterboxd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shahbaz on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Letterboxd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Anthony on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Letterboxd⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Movie Podcast on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Discord⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Rotten Tomatoes⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

First up, we weigh in on Kate Hudson’s ick, she knows it's controversial, and yet she said it anyway. Plus, after a year of intense online harassment, a certain Irish star has finally sat down to address the "dirty laundry" surrounding his high-profile breakup. We unpack whether the internet's take down of Barry was called for or did the pile-on go too far.And finally, the trailer for the new Colleen Hoover adaptation is here and it’s reignited a debate about one of our most iconic leading ladies. We unpack why the "Hatha-hate" narrative is resurfacing in 2026 and question why society is still so quick to turn on women at the height of their success (plus Laura spills on what Anne is actually like behind closed doors).Love binge-watching TV? The Spill has launched a new podcast called Watch Party where we deep dive into the shows everyone’s talking about. Follow the feed on Apple or Spotify now. 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Send us a voice message or email us at thespill@mamamia.com.au and we’ll get back to you ASAP! Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Audio & Video Producer: Michael Kean Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast. From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney. 00:06Speaker 2 And I'm Tina Probus and coming up on the show today, poor little Barry Kerrigan has given a bit of a tell interview to Benny Blanco about why he had to escape Hollywood even though he's in the midst of filming one of the biggest movie franchises that is going to hit our screens in the coming years. 00:22Speaker 1 So we're getting into that because there's a few layers, there's a few secret videos. 00:26Speaker 3 I'm glad you said his name first. From here and out, he would just be Barry. 00:29Speaker 1 Yeah, let's just pull that young young or Baz, because the thing is when he says his name, we's got such an irish little to it. And I wouldn't dare. I wouldn't dare trying to speak like that man. Plus, Anne Hathaway a new trailer for one of her highly anticipated movies, one of the five movie shows coming out this year has just dropped, and of course The Devil Wears prior to two is out this week. But it started a very uncomfortable conversation around her that we're gonna jump into. But first, some important breaking news, and no, it's not the fact that Laura Dern has been confirmed to replace Helena Bondum Carter on the White Lotus season, even though that was breaking news this morning. But we have something more important to discuss. 01:07Speaker 3 Yes, we are looking at what of Kate Hudson's X, which I personally am a fan of X. I think we should all be allowed to have something that we just draw as a boundary. It's okay to have boundaries. 01:18Speaker 1 Yes, So Kate Hudson, who I'm going to say, I love a Kate Hudson interview because that's the lovely thing about growing up as the golden child of a NEPO baby family is like that girl can say whatever she wants in the nicest way possible. So Kate Hudson went on Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen this week because she's still doing promo for Running Point season two. If anyone hasn't seen that, it's on Netflix now. It's so, so, so good and she's so good in it. But one of the questions was about X, and you can see that she was like, I'm taking a stand. 01:47Speaker 3 What male behavior gives you an immediate ex Oh, oh oh, I have a Okay, I'm not this is this is going to go bad and I'm going to see it anyway and maybe headline It's fine, Okay. 02:00Speaker 1 I have a real issue with guys who like really lead with their spirituality in a in a way. 02:10Speaker 3 That you're like, why are you? I don't know, what are you doing? 02:13Speaker 1 Why am I? 02:15Speaker 3 I'm like it just immediately a red flag like something's off, yes, not right. Yeah, I have no issue with that. Thank you, Kate Hugs. 02:26Speaker 1 I love how much she had to carry out that, Like she's like, should I say it? Should I not say it? Should I speak on it? Should I? She's like, I know this is going to cause headlines. Like when I saw that, I like leant up in my seat. Yeah, what is this girl going to say? That's going to ignite these international headlines? And I'm gonna say it. Wasn't overly disappointed, Like I was not expecting her to say spirituality just because of who she is, everything we know about her for her entire life. 02:50Speaker 3 You know, surely she has someone very specific in mind. She was that one guy exactly. 02:55Speaker 1 I feel like there's a backstory here. Okay, First of all, what do you think of that as an it would that turn you off? 02:59Speaker 3 I guess in terms of spirituality, are we talking religion or more like woo woo? 03:04Speaker 1 I think in her case, I'm thinking like super woo woo. 03:07Speaker 3 I feel like both might put me a little bit off to leave with that, like it's not your whole personality. 03:13Speaker 1 Yeah, I think I think there's a bit of a backstory there we're not getting. But I can read between the lines is that this woman has been in the dating pool at many times of her life in a really specific place, like in the kind of Hollywood world of like La. She's been raised in that area, and I think what she has encountered is a lot of men who were also raised in this kind of rich, famous Hollywood kind of those echelons of they don't have they've never like confronted in their life. They've never had to think about what to do with their lives and so or like make money and all that sort of stuff. And so that type of man or person, to be honest, like men and women can do it is that they then start to sort of be like, well, what else is there? What they like grab on to this very intense form of spirituality and that's fine, but then they make it everyone else's probes. That's when Anti Cohen, I think, says. 04:04Speaker 3 Like saying it's douchey, I feel like doo sheey. It was probably definitely a subshot, and they lead with it. 04:09Speaker 1 When he said, oh, they lead with it, and she was like, yes, So it's the kind of guy that you go on a first date with. And I just like Kate Hudson sitting down and she's a good time girl, Like she seems so fun. 04:17Speaker 3 I love her. 04:18Speaker 1 She talks out the fact that she loves to like go out and have a drink and dance and like, you know, she's just a real fun person. And I think she said some of a guy who was like, let me tell you about my ten steps. 04:27Speaker 3 Which makes me interesting. 04:29Speaker 1 I never asked you one question. I think that's who she's talking about. 04:32Speaker 3 I agree. I think that's totally fair to lead with that. I also think, like for me, someone that this sounds bad, actually no saying it. 04:39Speaker 1 If Kate Hudson can take a stand, you can mind's worse. 04:42Speaker 3 I think, oh, you're well, this isn't my ick, but just someone that has a lot of goals, like men with lots of goals. Like I dated so On once and they had like a list on their wall of like their goals, And I kind of put that on par with like spiritual thing because it's probably too far. 04:58Speaker 1 I can just hear a bunch of really fragile mens screaming right now, like we can't win. The thing is if I had no goals like being there, I think leading with it is what she's saying, and that's what you're saying too, Like if he had mentioned you in a conversation like, oh, I really want to do this one day, what's one of your goals? I'm assuming that would be fine. 05:15Speaker 3 I think it's like having interests verse, you know, outlining like this is my way of life, and like assigning your whole personality to a spirituality verse like it organically coming up at a conversation. Yeah, so maybe it's the nuance to it exactly. 05:29Speaker 1 And I just feel like after a while, like Kate hasn't has said for herself, like she was in the dating pool for like a good thirty years there from when she was a teen, and she has dated a lot of really big Hollywood celebs, a lot of musicians as in like tortured kind of musicians, and she had children with like two different musicians who seem nice but kind of get the vibe of being like very much like me and me like my art, my music. And that woman has had access to like every kind of hot man in Hollywood, and she's ended up with her friend's brother who's like out of the Hollywood world. And I like, there's a lesson in that we should love for all of us that she looked away from. And she'd known this guy for years, Danny, and they have a kid. I love bought it together now and she was just like after a while that she just kind of realized it's him. It's my friend's brother who's like not famous at all. 06:13Speaker 3 What a movie on that? 06:14Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah movie. So anyway, she's taken a stand on the biggest ick, and like people have really reacted to it. Some people in the comments are like, yeah, this is my biggest ick too, and then some people like this is awful, what a terrible thing to say. But I just think, let the woman speak, turn you off the spirituality thing. I think what she's saying too, if it's the main topic of conversation, there's no one thing. If the person's right, I think it turns you off, but I know, I know so well the kind of cuy she's talking about, who would sit down and make the whole conversation about their spirituality and like if you don't agree with everything, they think that you're wrong and they're more enlightened than you, and they'd probably do yeah, exactly exactly, and like they do, and you're just like, just chill and tell me what TV show you're watching, Like I don't need to hear your ten step spirituality and why you're going to have And I'm going to burn in hell because where you're going I don't want to go. Sorry, it sounds bad. 07:05Speaker 3 For the past year, the internet has been piling on to Barry They've been piling onto that man. 07:11Speaker 1 Coward my god key, well, he says in such a husky voice. 07:17Speaker 3 Well, some people say, some people shaking Barry Yeah, Barry Kay. And it has been piling on to Barry Kay following his split from Sabrina Carpenter, where there was swirling rumors of a cheating scandal, and they have just not left that man alone, and up until now he has never addressed the rumors. He's definitely come out and like talked about the online harassment that his face and the scale of bullying that he's come up against, which has sounded really hard, but it hasn't really slowed the pace of everything down. But now he has sat down with Benny Blanco and his podcast Friends Keep Secrets and done a little bit of a heart to heart. 07:54Speaker 4 Just on a serious note. You know, I feel in the safe space to see this. And you know what, I have been avoiding stuff. I have been like, you know, I came off Instagram, you know, on social profiles. I stopped going to events. I've stopped you know, just socializing. And again it's because you know, there was a narrative out there that was never really sort of even spoken on a narrative that's not true, and I never confirmed or said anything about it, and you know, I just disappeared. 08:29Speaker 1 So there's a lot of interesting things about that podcast. Clip one is just the fact that that podcast in general, like I've watched Benny Blanco's podcast a few times, those men just sit on the floor. 08:39Speaker 3 It's kind of chill vibes. 08:40Speaker 1 Yeah, but that's not how you podcast. And I'm not getting quite try that. Yeah, I wooden floor exactly about us, and we had to record during all those years of lockdown, like building a pillow fort, building a mattress tent, all those sorts. 08:55Speaker 3 Of things, because they're in pants, they're not inside. 08:58Speaker 1 That's not why sometimes I can just not just men famous people can just really do the better of them going through that. I mean, Barry did look very relaxed. He's sitting cross legged on the floor. But this is one interesting thing where it's like watching the podcast does give you a bit more than just listening to show there's people in the background just making tea in the kitchen and all those things. They must have excellent microphones not to pick up that background noise. But watching Barry's kind of like he his shoulders really slump. He puts his head down. You can see that he's like having difficulties speaking about it. But he's obviously had this really pent up inside and it's something that like he hasn't spoken on since the breakup with him and Sabrina Carpenter happens. So in that interview he kind of confirms they did date for over a year. He doesn't get into any of the specifics of why they broke up or anything. Like that. But he is in the midst of filming the Beatles movies, which is a huge, huge role that like every actor in Hollywood was going out for those Beatles roles, and it's going to be just kind of like this huge movie moment. So he's been in big movies before, but he's about to be in like a blockbus essentially, and so I think he knows that, like, he's got huge rounds of press in the next couple of years coming, and he also just needs to be in the public eye for his job in general. So wonder this was a bit like trying to clear the conversation before he goes back into. 10:14Speaker 3 That, and the scale of the harassment is it's quite disgusting because he has grown up with a lot of adversity. He speaks a bit in this interview about how people, you know, dragging his late mother into things she was an addict, and then he also has his own struggles with addiction. So I think stooping to that level and having to be constantly faced with that kind of commentary would be really hard when you know you've got this massive press run coming up. 10:40Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly, And it was, Yeah, it was kind of interesting. When he and Sabrina broke up, because they were never like overly overly public about their relationship, but they were photographed together a lot, and they did like when she did her Vogue with Come like he's in the video clip as well, Well, he's in the video clip, yes, yes, But prior to that, like they did there, like they were never like posing the heaps couple photos. They were never like on each other's Instagram stories. She never said like, this is my boyfriend Barry. That's like the three year master yeah, celebrity exactly. But the first time they really confirmed their relationship in a very public way was when she was doing a get Ready with Me behind the scenes video with Vogue before the Met Gala, and he walked into the room so it looked like he had an joining room, and he walked in and they were like, you know, the little kiss and a little to get like very clearly, very coupply. And then they've been photographed together since then, but never in like a like that was their kind of big moment. And then when they read the video clip together that was obviously huge. Yeah, and just like kind of like a cute, floirty thing. But I think one of the reasons why their breakup was so so public, there's a few different reasons. One is that, like we had song lyrics to fall back on, and as anyone who's daily Taylor Swift or any musician knows, that's gonna get you every time. Because she was like, please don't embarrass me, and everyone's like, and he did, and that was like a battle cry that people got really ferocious about. 11:56Speaker 3 Yeah, I think as well. It's something so relatable for people, and that's why it's like easy to latch onto it because everyone probably has someone in their life from their past that they kind of share those feelings towards. So when it's music, you I mean, I'm the kind of person that listens to music. I'm like, this is about my life. 12:12Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I guess I'm just thinking that a good song, you're like, yeah, that just hits in the right place. 12:17Speaker 3 If you're in a bas you're like looking out the window. 12:19Speaker 1 There's some lyrics that are just universal, and they're usually about heartbreak. They're always about that. One thing I thought was super interesting is he was talking about and he never gets into like the depths of him and Sabrina. But like if anyone knows anything about their relationship. You can kind of read between the lines of when they broke up. There was a huge amount of allegations that he had cheated on her, and she never came out and said it. But sometimes like she would be on stage, like she was on stage in Ireland once and she was sort of joking about like not wanting to date Irish boys again, that they were kind of like a bit of a bad idea, just like really how she A lot of people probably share that thought, Yeah, and exactly, and she was, you know, she was catering to her audience and stuff, but she never said the words Barry cheated on me. But what did happen that he brought up in this interview that I thought was really interesting is he said that a video went out from a woman who said that he had cheated with her, and that did go everywhere. And what he said I thought was really interesting and something we bring up on this pot a lot is that he said she then released a attraction video saying that she was a lion. She made it up, but no one picked up on that, which is so the case when these stories kind of they break, they come out, they burn hot and bright and a lot of times when something like that or a rumor or a misunderstanding or something happens, there is another part of the story that comes later, whether it's a retraction, a clarification, someone saying they were lying, like the full interview being released. There's always a second part to the story. But the second part of the story never gets the same traction as the first. 13:41Speaker 3 So I guess theys a lot about how people consume things as well, Like even when you see a headline, you may actually not have ever read the full story, Like you just see the headline and then that's your truth that you move forward. 13:49Speaker 1 Yeah. 13:50Speaker 3 Yeah, I remember seeing the video that went up and like there was just not really any grounds to truth with it. But if you just get that kind of like headline out of it, it kind of like takes on this whole life of its own. It is just crazy, the flow on effect that it's hard on, like you forget he's a real person. 14:05Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. And that's why we say, like people do just read the headlines, and a lot of the time I'm just like, well, sometimes with like fame and money and everything like that is sort of just unfortunately, like the price you paid. But I thought it was really interesting where he was like, this woman came out and gave a retraction and no one, like, no one saw that, no one pitched. 14:21Speaker 3 He's so strong for one not fighting on that, well he did. 14:26Speaker 1 Yeah, And I mean, obviously I wonder if there's like how much a PR team is involved, or maybe it is also I don't know this man. Maybe this was his thought, like it was very like holier than thou, kind of a nice way to say it, because he was like, I don't know what this woman has gone through in her life, so I'm not that holy call her out. Well, yeah, I don't think yeah, to give her Barry Kaye the benefit of the doubt. That was really nice of him, if indeed that was his own thought, is like I'm not going to pull this woman through the mud and set the internet off on her because I don't know what she's been through, what's going on with her. It's sort of interesting because that's sort of this huge chain of reaction of people hating Barry. And before that he was really having a moment. He had been in an Oscar nominated movie and everyone was like, oh my god, he's a great actor and then after Saltburn, he was having such a fun cultural moment and everyone was like, oh, that tiny evil man, like so cheeky and fun, like everyone loved him, and so when he and Sabrina got together, everyone's like, oh, it's just we love that she's obsessed with like that little gremlin boy. It was really a moment on the internet too, like everyone boy is crazy, yeah, but in an endearing way, like everyone was upset in the way that only men can be, like you know, like rat Boy, fort of stuff and it's all endearing. 15:34Speaker 3 Your face was always coming up in the Rat Boy, yeah exactly. 15:37Speaker 1 So it was all that. And then stuff came out, yes, about his family and like drug abuse and all this sort of stuff, all these allegations, and he talked about it, but at the same time, like people were sort of using then his own words against him, and then people were also bringing out the fact that he was which again cernificants brought up for any other men in Hollywood. I don't know if all of a sudden we decided that Barry was going to take the flack for absent fathers everywhere? Is that? But also people were like, well, where is your son, Like he is because he has a son. People were like, you're off with Sabrina, You're not looking after your son, You're an absent father. I think at one stage he was talking about having to be away and working, but he was doing that for his son, and people were like, you're just making excuses, and all of a sudden, that like became this huge lynch pin. In a way, it's not for other men in Hollywood. Like, I'm not defending him for if he doesn't see his son, but I'm just like. 16:23Speaker 3 That's most in Hollywood. Yeah, Yeah, they're not at home raising their kids every day when they're filming movies months on end. 16:30Speaker 1 Yeah. I just think felt like it became just another thing to add to this kind of like it's very personal Eylon and like when we thought he was cute and sexy, no one cared about that. But when we thought he cheated on Sabrina carp and all of a sudden, everyone's like, you come from a drug addict family and you're a bad parent. Yeah, he was like where we were next. 16:47Speaker 3 It's a really low blow. And obviously in the industry, people are getting away with a lot more and not having you know, so many people cracked down on them. It's almost like it's easier to attack, attack on this. 17:00Speaker 1 Yeah, and again I think like a song lyric will really change the game, Like it became sort of like cute and fun to hate on Barry, and I think because it's also very easy, like there was no except for him personally, there was no stakes for anyone else Whereas I kind of looked at like the attacks on Barry, and I was like, where is this for like men in Hollywood who are like abusive towards women, or where is this for like men who have been accused and sometimes found guilty of like sexual assault or all these other things, or like physical assault, all these other things, Like they tend to sort of get more of it because sometimes that's a murky issue and interesting. 17:35Speaker 3 It's like if people don't have all the information on something that's higher stakes, then they weren't common on it at all. 17:41Speaker 1 Yeah. 17:42Speaker 3 But then if something's lower stakes and you don't even have any information at all, yeah, feel free to go wild. 17:48Speaker 1 Yeah exactly. That's I just found such an interesting and just like which parts of the internet pick up which topics, because sometimes like a man will be accused of sexual assault and not even not found guilty, but just sometimes there's not enough evidence to get to court, which is not the same thing, and everyone will be like, well, that's not ruin his life. But then everyone's like, wait, did Barry kiss someone else? Yeah, stone him to death, Like it's very because again that feels like there's less consequences for the audience. So yeah, I thought it was interesting, and I like the fact that he did come out and have that conversation and like kind of be a bit vulnerable in that way because he's really trying to gun towards this very famous act not famous, he's obviously famous, but more kind of serious actor kind of vibe, and a lot of times that comes with like not giving like being only out of DiCaprio and not giving an interview since a teen magazine like thirty years ago, and not kind of speaking on anything, only ever talking about your movies and your craft and never talking about yourself. It felt like he was kind of and like Paul mescal and other actors who are in his Jacob e. Lordie, like other actors who are in that young Hollywood about to be that next level of very famous man are all going that we don't speak in interviews. 18:53Speaker 3 Keeping it very personally. 18:54Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. 18:55Speaker 3 He lifted the veil a bit, and I think he's a really powerful story so it would be really nice if he's able to speak about it without people throwing stones in. 19:02Speaker 1 Yes, exactly what the little man. I mean. We get maybe he did, maybe he cheated horribly on her. 19:07Speaker 3 We don't know, and if that's the case, then. 19:11Speaker 1 Exactly. But we'll like the full interview in our show notes. Who will listen to the full thing because there's a lot more than that little moment. But yeah, interesting when the Beatles movies come. 19:19Speaker 3 Out, Yes, I'm so excited. 19:20Speaker 1 Yeah, I actually think that'll be a tony hoot for him. I think people will see him in the Beatles movies, they'll love the movie and they'll be fine. 19:26Speaker 3 Yeah. 19:28Speaker 1 So it's been a huge well it's been a huge month year, but also week this week for Anne Hathaway because The Devil West Prota two is finally I'm not gonna do it this movie. Huge week for us. We went to the premiere of The Devil Wears Pritor two this week. We can't say anything about it today, but that review many many thoughts on that are coming. So the Devil Wes Protor two is out starring Anne Hathaway. Of course, it's one of the many movies she has coming out this year, so Mother Mary, where she plays a pop star, The Devil Wes Protor two, obviously, The Odyssey, Christopher Nolan's new movie, which is going to be an absolutely huge blockbuster packed with Hollywood talent. She's in that Flower Veil Street, which is more of a sci fi mystery. This's got range. 20:07Speaker 3 Yeah, she's got range. 20:08Speaker 1 He's got range. And also Verity, which is coming out in October, which is a new thriller based on Colleen Hoover's best selling book of the same name. So the trailer came out this week. It was our first look at There's been so much hype around this particular adaptation of Colleen Hoover's novel, just because it's so beer loved and has such a twisted mystery, and also the casting, because we've got Dakota Johnson playing Low and Ashley who was hired by a man called Jeremy Crawford played by Josh Hartnett. I'm loving the Josh Hartnett come back in the way Why did he ever go away? I do love that man, and so she's hired by him to ghost write novels for his best selling author wife called Verity played by Anne Hathaway. Because she's an accident, she's unable to finish, and so Dakota Johnson's character moves into the Crawford's home to work on the book, only to discover that, of course, all is not as it seems, and there is a mystery with Verity. And the trailer is like really creepy and like atmospheric, and it also has a pretty lovely pash between Dakota Johnson and Hathaway. 21:09Speaker 3 Love that they put that in the trailer. 21:11Speaker 1 Yeah, they were like, we know exactly what you guys want to see, and here it is at the top of the trailer. 21:15Speaker 3 So I haven't read the book. It looks quite dark though, like a horror. 21:19Speaker 1 Yeah, Like it's like a kind of like a horror thriller, kind of like that old school like a Rebecca type kind of like you know, mystery of like what's happening in the home. 21:27Speaker 3 Kind of thing. It's interesting seeing what people are already saying in terms of like what they expected, Like some people like this is way scary than I thought it would be like people interpreted different in their heads. 21:36Speaker 1 So and it was one of those things where like when their casting was announced that it was Anne Hathaway Duco Johns and people that quite lost their minds of that because they were very kind of like territorial overut who would play these characters. So on paper, this should actually be the best year of Anne Hathaway's life professionally. 21:52Speaker 3 She's busy because of all. 21:53Speaker 1 These movies coming out, and there's this kind of just felt like when she was on The Devil Wears prior to press to her, there was this like inten hence love and admiration for her and so on paper, everything is perfect, but of course there's a bit of a different conversation bubbling around in the background. Do you remember, like it was nearly eight years nine years ago now that the Half a Hate started? Do you remember this dark time. 22:18Speaker 3 In our history this time? 22:19Speaker 1 Yeah, well, hopefully not on the internet because it was not a nice stay. 22:22Speaker 3 I don't think I was part of this movement because I wouldn't want to stand for that slander. Well no, exactly exactly. 22:27Speaker 1 So it was a dark time in history where Anne Hathaway had grown up as one of the most beloved actresses because we were introduced to her in The Princess Diaries, iconic Disney film Perfection Can Do No Wrong, and then obviously she had other movies like Ellen Enchanted, so you know, she really a lot of people really grew up with her as their actress, as the person that they would like. You know, people would be like, the first time I went to the movies was to see Ella Chanted, or like the first time, like my friends and I had to sleepover, we watched The Princess Diaries, like it was that kind of way. 22:55Speaker 3 She had a very like soft transition into womanhood as well from that, like Disney Girl. 23:00Speaker 1 And then when she got The Devil Wears Prata, which was it became a huge iconic movie and it was a big deal at the time, but not like it kind of became when the movie came out, and she has spoken very openly that she was about fifth on the list of actresses, so like they had to a lot of people had to say no to the role, and she had to go through like a lot of negotiations and auditions to get that role, and then that kind of was her big star making turn because that movie was sush a blockbuster. She's so great in it, and then she went on to like have all these other big movies that followed it. It was around the time of when she was starring in lay Miz that she won her first Oscar for it was her first Oscar nomination, was the first time she won. It was during the press one for that that people started to really turn against her. 23:44Speaker 3 Yeah, right, and all. 23:46Speaker 1 Of a sudden. I mean, the thing is, she was campaigning very hard for an Oscar, which is what you have to do to win. No one wins at a campaigning, even if you step aside and let your team campaign for you, you have to have a campaign. But she was front and center campaigning, and she run lot of awards leading up to the Oscar and lay Mis won a lot of awards, and people started to tire of her. They were like, she's a tryhard, she's annoying, she has theater kid energy. And one of the worst allegations against her was when Laye Miz won an award and as they were wrapping up, she jumped in on the end and thanked someone from her team, like personally, like thanked one of her managers. And there was this huge backlash, and it wasn't til years later that came out that person had been diagnosed with cancer and she just wanted to give them a shout but also even. 24:28Speaker 3 If they had it, like, let her give a shout out, Yeah, let her give a. 24:31Speaker 1 Shout out to someone in her teen And when she won the Oscar, that's also when the tables turned because she got up on stage and she and also people hated her dress. And that's neither he nor there. But the story was I didn't love it. No, okay, I just think he didn't photograph well. And but the backstory is it was, it was fine. It's a fun It's one of those engages that she is such a she's such a red carpet staple glam kind of and she'd had so many great dresses leading up to the Oscars that I just thought that wasn't the dress. It just photographs strangely because of the darts at the front. It made it look like her boobs were sticking out and the front, no, you do you know the dress't talking about? 25:08Speaker 3 No, it was a I think it. 25:10Speaker 1 Was Prada, which is ironic, and it was like straight down, pale pink column dress and it was just the way the darts were sitting. It made it look like she had breast, which I actually think is quite fun. And then it was it had a lot of detail at the back, but you couldn't see it. And so the story goes that they were rehearsing for le A mis because they were doing a music home in the Oscars, and Amanda Seifered, who was also in the movie, showed Anne hath the Way a picture of her dress that she was wearing to the Oscars the next day, and apparently Anne like lost her mind and I'm assuming just lost her mind and like, oh my god, shit, like because it was nearly identical to her dress, so different designers. Tina's just looking at a picture of the dress. 25:51Speaker 3 Now the dress is quite average. Yeah, I mean, but maybe the back, I don't know. If it was. 25:56Speaker 1 No destroying the woman's life for five years from put that it was okay. 26:02Speaker 3 Yeah. Also a lot of people. 26:04Speaker 1 Wear dresses to the Oscars because it's very serious things. A lot of times that people wear a bit more of a kind of and they want it to look timeless. 26:10Speaker 3 And and she looks beautiful, like if she was in the room she was wearing that phenomenal beautiful. 26:16Speaker 1 She looked beautiful, and I think it's fine. But what happened was, Yes, the story goes that Amanda seiphred and Anne has a way to confirm this happened, but she's never said it was Amanda, but we know, we know showed her photo and Anne was like, oh my god, that's nearly identical to my dress. And we're in the same movie and we're walking the carpet near each other and we're seeing next to each other, like, what am I going to do? So apparently she left and Amanda also left because they were both like, we can't deal with this right now. And so the night before the Oscar she had to find a new dress and that was the pink column dress, and again she won lovely moments. She's always wanted to win an Oscar. Sorry, that's fine, that's fun. That the people started hating her because she got up on stage and it was clearly a rehearsed moment, but she's an actress. What do you want from her? It was clear rehearse moment. She up and instead of speaking, she took a moment of silence. She looked down the Oscar and it's like and she just stared at and then she goes it came true, as in, like I wish for this and it came true. 27:10Speaker 3 Yeah, oh again, is that so fine? 27:13Speaker 1 You? Like she had her Yeah. I just think people were just like. 27:16Speaker 3 Winning an oscar. Just let them do what they want with that moment. Yeah, pretty one. Just let them have antense. 27:22Speaker 1 And I thought that her speech was lovely. It was really heartfelt. She was very overcome, as you would be. And and I feel I can speak like this now because can I say I've always been on the right side of history. I defended Anne Hathaway before it was cool. Yeah, and then she spoke about like sex work and like because her character obviously in the movie, she's like, let Fantine's story kind of be like a reminder to us about this, and like she'd obviously really thought like what is this moment about, what is this character about, and what is the bigger issue? So she did all that, and then people were just like, we're so sick of her, we can't stand her. She's a try hard and the hard thing is is that she kind of I think knew the tide was turning a little bit, but it was until she like a year or so later, when the internet had been hating her for a year or so and very blatant, and was that she sat down to google something about herself because I think it was she was going to do an SNL sketch and she wanted to find a headline about herself to kind of like she had an idea for a joke. She wanted to parry it, so she googled Anne Hathaway and she said all that came up like fill the screen was like ten reasons why we hate Anne Hathaway. Here's why everyone decides they've hated Anne Hathaway. Here's the worst thing about Anne Hathaway. And she was like, oh, sorry, my god, Like yeah, she said. It was really kind of confronting to her to realize how fast spread the hate was. And then she ended up having to do like a magazine cover where she's kissing on it. I think it was Elle where she's kissing and she's like, let's kiss and make up. And I was like, girl, you have nothing to apologize. 28:44Speaker 3 No, no, and hath a ways to apologize. 28:46Speaker 1 Yeah, It's weird that, like again, we see all these men like do and I know that's like kind of a tied take that men and women get treated differently, But it's it's unfortunately very true. Is that we see like men get accused of like they screamed at this one on set, like Adam Driver threw a charity and a donner. 29:02Speaker 3 Literally, why are we not talking about that anymore? 29:04Speaker 1 Well, yes, it was part of their like rehearsal, and she's not angry at him. But also, like you know, and we have all these things of like you know, men cheating or men doing things, or even other actresses sometimes doing worse things. And the worst thing in Hathaway did was just love her to work too much. 29:18Speaker 3 She's just going to work. I've got Jacob Elodie in a million movies right now where like keep going exactly. 29:23Speaker 1 And I also and yes, there are allegations that she was rude and difficult, but we don't have any like there's no proof of that that I can also. 29:32Speaker 3 Rude or difficult or just at work being professional and asking for what. 29:36Speaker 1 She Also, no one's that I can see, No one's gone on the record to say that she was difficult to work with. In fact, it came up in a press conference once. I think it was for Interstellar. I came up on a press conference where a journalist is like, what is it like to be No One as someone who's really difficult to work with it? And it's like oh, and then Jessica Chustin jumps in and she's like, I just want to speak on this that I've worked with this woman twice now and she's not difficult to work with. But it's like saying like that part of the story of never took off, Like No One sort of was like, oh, Jessica Chustin defends Anne Hathaway. They were just like she's. 30:07Speaker 3 There these speculations of her just being lovely to. 30:10Speaker 1 Work Yeah, And there is that interview that went you know, that moment in time where like all the Blake Lively interviews were coming out around like oh, she's awful at interviews, and you watched a super cut of interviews. And it really depends how people edit things a lot of the times and the context around them. But an old interview came up with Anne hathawayen a journalist. It was four laid miss and the journalists keep saying to her it was the same journalist that Blake Lively was accused of being you know, the whole baby interesting and then they were like, oh, look like Blake Lively is getting crucified for being rude to this journalist, which she kind of was that's fair enough. And they were like, look when this like Anne Hathaway was also rude to this journalist. And this clip went viral and it was the journalist saying to Anne Hathaway like, can we can we sing our responses to each other? And apparently other people in lay Miss did it and Anne was like, oh, you can do that. I'm not going to do it. 31:00Speaker 3 That's what I would say. Yeah, yeah, I don't want to sing no. 31:04Speaker 1 And I actually think that's so fine, Like it's it's a hard line of like you're in an interview, sometimes you have to go with the bits. But I also think saying to something like maybe going into an interview and saying to someone, especially if like it's not a pre approved kind of thing, like going into a junkert where it's like every five minutes you're talking to a new journalist and a journalist coming in and saying like can we sing our interview and her being like no, thank you, And it's fair. 31:26Speaker 3 Enough because then it could go in the wrong way, and then that will be the story that spirals out of control, Like you've got to be like thinking a couple of steps ahead on Yeah, what's the output of this got to look like? And a people gonna hate on before it? 31:39Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly, And it's so interesting obviously, things like I haven't seen like the full full clip of that in terms of like it wasn't released, Like I haven't seen what happened before the cameras started rolling the cameras afterwards, So I don't know if she was rude or not, but no one cared about that was that isolated clip. And she ended up apologizing to the journalist. Yeah, and because I think she was like, oh god, this is gonna you know, I think. 31:58Speaker 3 The journalist would know as you as well, though, like this could be yes, this could be an I'm gonna shoot my shot. 32:03Speaker 1 I just think it was a moment in time. And then everyone's so back on the inn Hathaway train, as they should be, Like mymorphus loves being held to account for bad behavior. But I just don't know if there's any. 32:14Speaker 3 Bad blockbuster movies that I've seen from her. 32:18Speaker 1 There's nothing that I've seen from her that justifies the level of hatred, except that she just seems to try really hard and she's really earnest and she's a theater kid energy. 32:26Speaker 3 Which I love. 32:27Speaker 1 But I will say, like, having interviewed her myself personally, now. 32:30Speaker 3 She has her friends lovely. 32:33Speaker 1 She was really lovely, and yes, she was very kind of and I've seen her be like this in other interviews. I think because my questions were a bit more serious, which was fine because that's why I wanted. But she gave me really thoughtful answers and I really appreciated that. But I walked in the room to interview her and Meryl for Devil Words prior to too, and there was a bit of a change with the time, and I kind of got when I went in the room, I wasn't sure. I thought I was going into you know how like can go into a junk and you think it's gonna be like a holding area first, and then someone and often there's like a screen and there's all this and the PR person walks around introduces you, and then they take you in and then you're like, oh, okay, like now we're starting. Whereas I open the door and it's just Maryland's oh, right in front of me away, and they were just like oh hell. And I was the first one, so they were just like oh. They were still like settling down, putting their waters down, like Merret was drinking her water because they'd been doing a full day of press. And I was like, oh, hello, and then I didn't even introduce myself because I was like, oh, I'm yeah, and I'm like to the camera and I talked to the camera person instead of them because I said are you filming now? Because I don't want to miss my interviews? And Anne was like like really rolling yeah, you know, it's like high stakes in that room. And Anne was like, oh, sorry, what is your name? And I was like, oh, I'm sorry, it's Laura, and she is all lovely to meet you, Laura. I'm Anne, and this is Meryl. That's really I do know, but like nice to like she was sort of making sure that we had that moment of like seeing each other's names and saying hello. And then I found her really thoughtful and I just watched her because I saw her during that press day. I saw her like do a whole bunch of interviews in the morning and then do all the junk kids and then go and do a fan event that night, and I could feel that she was really like not being cautious, but really trying to make sure that she gave really thoughtful answers and that she was acknowledging people, and that she was giving people what they expected of having their moment with Anne Hathaway in a really intense way of someone who knows what it's like when that goes the wrong way. So I really appreciate it that that's lovely, and I just think it's kind of like now that I'm seeing like even like, so we put up all our Devil Wears prid of clips from the interview that was on the spill, and most of the comments are like lovely and really supportive. But I have this one clip that's got a lot of traction online where I asked her and Meryl, like, because they can't watch The Devil Wes Prita as their favorite comfort movie, what is their like what is their version of The Devil Wears Prata? And Anne gave some really lovely answers. One of them was Moonstruck that she says she watches in bed and with ice cream, which I did over the weekend I haven't seen Moonstruck for ages, but I watched it and I got some ice cream and I was like this, girls on stop like man' the same Shelle. There's also a bunch There was also like a bunch of comments under a TikTok video of people like, look how Ovalish's polite she's been to that interviewer. Look how careful she's been. And then other people were like, oh, yeah, it's because she's like got in trouble before. And everyone's like, oh, I'm getting so sick of her. 35:14Speaker 3 And I was like, guys, none of these are bad things, so she's being too careful. 35:19Speaker 1 Yeah, And I can just see that the tide is not turning against her. But I can just see because she has to be so public this year because she's mailed these movies and just the way the release schedule has fallen, they're all coming out in one go. 35:31Speaker 3 Yeah, even when people like you're so busy this year, like these have been filmed probably over the past like five. 35:36Speaker 1 Years, And I just yeah, And I just find it really interesting that we're even having this conversation in twenty twenty six about like whether or not the table should turn on and Hathaway because she hasn't done anything to deserve that, and it's just justice. 35:49Speaker 3 For Anne Yeas twenty twenty six. 35:52Speaker 1 And it's just it's interesting. As much as we keep having this conversation, it's still like the worst thing that a woman can do in Hollywood is be like two in your face and two in your in terms of like be everywhere and having to promote a movie successful also walking that fine line between like having to be like a little bit self deprecating but also like sometimes very earnest, and it's like everyone's watching you walk this tight rope of like and if you put a foot too far the other way then you have to go. And other actresses have said before, like it's anything happened to Jennifer Lawrence, Like do you remember that when she was everywhere and she won her oscar? It's always when a women wins an. 36:26Speaker 3 Oscar, whenever they're successful, people just want to like really narrow and on things. And I think that's what makes it hard again, just going back to the fact that Anna's just working, she's doing good jobs, she's booking great roles. Why would she turn them down? Yeah, She's got her biggest year ahead of her. There is absolutely no reason to hate someone based on those things. 36:45Speaker 1 No, No, and that thing is like when you ask people because people have just because I've written a lot about this in the past, Like I wrote a big piece about the haf of hate when it first was starting and being like, we need to stop this because all the reasons why, And that piece still bops up on search a lot. Whenever she's in a movie of people like Big Year for You, then yeah, guys read yeah, like I read that piece like eight years ago and every word is still correct of what people have said. But yeah, and whenever like she's in a movie or like when I've interviewed her, like the first people say like, oh, what was she really like? And I was like, she was lovely in a way that you've No one's ever asked me in that tone about any other actress I've interviewed. I've interviewed some mean actresses, to let me tell you, and no one cares about that. But yeah, I just think it's interesting of like how like women come to this moment in Hollywood, like a Jennifer Lawrence, like an nn Hathaway where they searched to popularity and then we decide that they've had too much time in the sun, or they're too quirky, or they're too earnest, and then they have to go and like hide away, I don't want and then they decide to come back again. 37:49Speaker 3 Yeah, they've got it. They've got to buy their time. 37:51Speaker 1 Yeah, so go see Devils prior to go see all of Ann Hathaway's movies. I guess, and I just hope this conversation Petere's out now. 38:00Speaker 3 Thanks so much for listening to the Spill today, And if you want to watch as well as listen, you can now watch us on Apple Podcasts. Just make sure that your iPhone is up to date and switch over to video to see our beautiful faces, or head to the YouTube channel to catch more of our video content, including celeb interviews. 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Welcome to this spill your daily pop culture fixed. I'm Laura Brodneck and I'm Tita Previs, and we have a very special episode for you today, one that I have been dying to do for so long because this is a special interest area of mind. So I'm so glad you're here for my moment that I got to share with you. We are doing the best movie makeover scenes that yes, might be seen as problematic, but we desperately love them. I love them. What do you think they're problematic? Well? I think well, I'm just gonna take my feminist hat off and put it in the corner. I'm gonna actually put it outside the studio, pick it up later on the way out, because I guess these like these movie makeover montages that have become such a big part of in particular romantic comedies. One is obviously we're both going to share our favorite ones. We don't know what the other person's going to say, but I'm assuming you don't have any men on your list, because I don't have any men on my lise. 00:53Speaker 2 You do, I do, But how rare is that it's rare, And that's why exactly exactly exactly. 01:00Speaker 1 So all the makeover scenes in movies, especially wrong cooms, always happen to women, and they always famously go one way. More men should be having makeups. Yeah, let's make it see men, I know. But if you rubits have tried to do that, has it really landed? I just mad it every day? Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, absolutely real mount the Street, let's make them over. I think it's a famous shell queer right. Well, these makeovers always go one way, so that's I think that's where the kind of problematic issue has come over the years is that the woman always comes out, she's always like tenned, she always has like a ton of makeup on, she gets her glasses taken off, even if see without them, always wearing like skimpier clothing. Like it's a very like kind of like sexualized bombshell kind of look that every woman gets made over to in these movies in order to kind of achieve the life that she wants. So if you look at it through that lens, slightly problematic. But we're not doing that today because movie makeover scenes have made up the broke of pop culture for so long, and there's so many movies that are made around these scenes or these ideas, and they were always the scenes that we used in marketing so famously in Suddenly thirty they had like done the script and shot half the movie, and the studio was like looking at the dailies and looking at the script and they're like, you have to put a makeover montage in here for the trailer. Otherwise formula is otherwise we can't sell this movie. What the hell are you doing. So the reason we're doing this today, I do have a reason for this before we get into our picks, is that it is The Devil Wears prior to two week. Yeah, the movie is actually coming out this week on the thirtieth of April, and the first movie has an incredible makeover moment which Andy goes into the fashion closet with nigelnic He pulls a poncho for which we never wear it see her wear. And then that is such a catalyst for the film because it's how we see her lean into her career and how she gets taken seriously, and that we have that incredible montage of all the different looks that she wears down the streets, different coats and hats into the office. You have a favorite one. 03:01Speaker 3 From that montage, all of the looks are always so good, and I think because you do have that contrast for like her own style at the start to all of those looks, like you can't just pick one, and then from there on out it just gets like better and better. 03:15Speaker 1 The fun better and better and better. 03:16Speaker 3 Yeah. 03:16Speaker 1 From that makeover montage we first see her like the green coat means the winner, but also the brown snakeskin coat when she walks into the building, which is how I want to be dressing this season. So off the back of the Devil Wears prior to two cinemas April thirty, we're gonna be sharing with each other our favorite movie makeover moments. Do you want to kick us off? So we haven't shared yet. I don't know what you're gonna say. It's going to be surprise. I'm interesting how a man weaseled his way in there, so like a man. It's like, we have one thing and it's been overly sexualized and made over in movies and then men want to take it away from us. 03:47Speaker 3 So I'm staying on the Anne Hathaway train. 03:49Speaker 2 Oh yeah, and I'm going with Princess Darry It wouldn't be Yes Complete the Makeover Podcast EP if we didn't have this one in there, I feel like it. It's so iconic unless you're living under a rock. Everybody has seen Princess Staris. It's one of my favorite movies growing up. And we follow Mia Thermopolis played by Anne Hathaway, and she finds out that she's actually a princess, which is what I thought was gonna happen to me. I'm still waiting for a letter behind estranged relative in her country. And she pretty much undergoes this whole transformation on her path to becoming a princess, and they enlist a stylists. 04:27Speaker 1 She pretty much just. 04:28Speaker 2 Takes her glasses off, straightens her hair and like has her nails done. 04:32Speaker 1 Like there's really not much more to it. Oh see. I actually think out of all the movie makeover is this one they actually go through quite a drug etiquette, has the etiquette training and that whole thing. But also I think they actually do quite change, Like she looks drastically different. Some makeover segne like you just took off her glasses and put a lipstick on, whereas this one it's like completely like her hair because I think she's got like a crazy wig on when she is playing Mia in the early movies. The glass has always changed things, but the makeup is so intense, the skin sort of stuff. 05:00Speaker 2 How she they pluck her eyebrows, They're like really like whacking those off. But again on the slightly problematic end, because it did really like reinforce you know, curly like frizzy hair being like a little bit messy and untamed, and like, I deep dove into Reddit and there are so many people on the Internet who you know, said how much it really affected them and it led them to like chronically straighten their hair for like ten years. 05:25Speaker 1 Okay, I didn't know there was like the dark side of the Princess Diaries. 05:28Speaker 3 We have Minisha producer Nisha in the studio. 05:31Speaker 2 Who was saying that this had a little bit of an impact on her and her. 05:34Speaker 1 And she never curled her hair again. Wow, No, she has curly hair. She straightens it. No, No, I know, is that right? 05:42Speaker 3 She's nodding, She's she's no. 05:44Speaker 1 I didn't realize that your hair looked like that. Because of the wrath of Anne Hathaway. Wow and Hathaways actually come out recently. Anne Hathaway's commented on Yeah public apology. 05:56Speaker 2 She recently spoke to people off the back of the recent press she's been dewey and shared her one regret from her time on the film. So her natural hair is actually straight, so they had to create that contrast for that makeover scene, that moment, so they gave me a really curly hair. And you know, she has regrets around people thinking that they were saying curly hair is unattractive, which is obviously terrible, and like she says, it was an unintended side effect. It was just in order to make it easier and post and you know, have that massive transformation moment. But it's so significant that it's actually something. Now in twenty twenty six, she's had to come out and dress. 06:32Speaker 1 Oh and no, And can I just say, you don't need to apologize. Do you have curly hair? You'r okay, no, we don't get it. I would love curly hair because I cut my hair all the time because I have dead straight, flat hair. Yeah, And I always feel like I'm the same the unattractive thing. And I would love to have people like especially like in rom com there's some wrong comms, like in How Lose a Guy? In Ten Days, where Kate Hudson's character Andy famously has straight hair, yes, but as she falls in love, her hair goes curly. Have you sadnything online of like girls in love have curly hair? 06:58Speaker 2 Yeah? 06:58Speaker 1 I have, yeah, And I was like, obviously I've been in love because my hair is straight, straight, So you can literally find anything. I'm just gonna say, Anne Hathaway, you don't apologize for that. It's okay. We don't speak on behalf of the curly girls. We well, no, no, I think that that's the fault of the movie, not Anne Hathaway. Yes, yes, And I also think that out of all the things that we have to sort of look at, that that one's okay. I'm not disregarding the feelings of curly head girls. I just don't think Anne Hathaway personally should take on that emotional birth. 07:24Speaker 3 No, it's not for her. She can we forgive you, Anne, it's not you. 07:27Speaker 1 We don't have to five. But that is such a pivotal moment, that scene, because everything about that movie plays and to wish fulfillment, and that is like also the biggest wish for filment as an adult but also as a teenager. That you're just kind of one step away from looking beautiful, that someone could take you in a room and they could do all these things. And also then her life does open up in this crazy way. Yes, because she's become a princess, but also because she looks like this ideal beauty, she becomes popular. Yeah, everybody likes her. The guy shet to like her, and are they're really careful to caveat that he always liked her. 08:00Speaker 2 Yeah, and it wasn't the makeover. Yeah, I was actually really don't do that as much watching it last night. And she just ignores him for like the whole first part of the movie. 08:09Speaker 3 He literally is like, you're attractive, and she just doesn't even like. 08:12Speaker 1 Well, that's the whole thing of these movies, too, is that they pedal this thing that everyone's secretly beautiful they just don't know it. And for a lot of us, and they put me in that category. No, fine, that's fine, there's no there's no little trick of like, if she just took her glasses off, or if she just took her hair out, she would be so beautiful and she just doesn't know it. 08:30Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't wear glasses. What's the next straight. 08:33Speaker 1 I wear my hair on every day. There's no way a man can take out my ponytail, and I'll instantly be beautiful. What is left? So good? Okay, before we move on to my next one. Are you excited for Princess Diaries three? Or you're upset about it? People different came. I'm excited because Princess Diary is too wildly a great movie. All the sequels out there, I think they're both great. 08:52Speaker 2 I think Anne is great, and if she wants to be involved in it, I know she'll want to do it right. 08:57Speaker 1 So super excited. 08:58Speaker 2 It's such a part of my child would I watched that movie rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat. 09:03Speaker 1 It was one of those ones I was always. 09:04Speaker 2 Watching, even the nos Soldier, like, even if it's not better than one and two, I'm here for it. 09:12Speaker 1 Okay, So the movie Makeover I'm going to talk about now. I picked because it has my favorite reveal like When You Had. It has everything it has, like the big reveal, the reaction, the build up, the song, the song choice and maker. I realize every nearly every makeover Picked has an iconic song that sort of had new life in it because of the movie moment and this is an iconic comedy from the year two thousand, a great year for m comms. Miss Congeniality. Oh oh my god. 09:42Speaker 3 I can't what but like I would have been really really young. 09:46Speaker 1 Okay, you need to watch this is just movies. I just assumed everyone has seen I didn't. I didn't see it. I was like in not pro I was probably in high school. I did even know. Anyway, I didn't see the movies, but I just remember what. It's one of those ones where I just remember, like I know of it. I mean, we're probably had on a VHS and I just watched it over and over and over again. Oh my god. It holds up so well. I mean, no, it's problematic as hell, but that's fine. That's fine. But our feminist is outside. Actually yeah, it's actually out the window. I've thrown it. No, no, it's not problematic, and like, there's actually nothing so super bad in it. They'll just be little things. But anyway, as a movie, ten out of ten holds it so well. You need to watch it. You'll love it. Don't watch the sequel. Okay, the sequel's frodden. Sandra Bullock went through Who is the lead of this movie, Sandra Brook went through a time where she made two really regrettable sequels, Speed Too. I don't watch that. I never watch I've loved Speed Speed. Yeah. The second one, she's on a boat, and even she was like, that was a mistake because the boat. They're like, the boat's going so fast because the boat can go anywhere, because it's a cruise ship. It can't go the world. Yeah, it's fine. And Miss Congenality Too not great, but Miss Congeniality a perfect movie. So Sandra Bullet plays an FBI agent called Graasy Heart, and she's like really schlubby and gross, like yeah, that's the perfect kind of word for her. She wears like an ill fitting, like cheap suit which is always like crinkled, food stained. She's got really frizzed. They really frizzed her hair hair same thing. She's just hair like and she looks terrible. And so there's been a threat against the Miss USA pageant. So a lot of it set in a beauty pageant, and they need someone to go undercover in the pageant as a beauty queen to like stop the threat. And they go. They have this computer program that they go through all the women the FBI, and it renders them what they would look like, which is a bit weird down to think of what they would look like like, what their bodies would look like. And Sandra looks gracy heart is the only one when they like, they think she's like, they think she's ugly, even though it makes a deep fake of them. And I was like, wow, that technology came true twenty years later and we used it for evil. Yeah, and then because not all the boys and Benjamin Bratt plays like one of the FBI agents, true who's like the hot sexy guy friends. It's a real Benjamin Bratt moment in the early two thousands. You might not know because you're a child, but he was like the romantic lead in so many movies and Julia Roberts was madly in love with him and they were getting married and it was a whole thing. So that, yes, this is peak Benjamin Bratt era. That moment passed, We're still in peak Sandra Bullock era, so that moment is still here. So she is the only one that can go under cover, but they're just like, look at her. She's so ugly and she's a mess. And she is also she's like an ultimate tomboy and she doesn't want to do it. So that's the difference too, is that in this movie she is so against she's scene, whereas a lot of other movies women are like, yes, please give me a makeover, which is also fine. So they bring in Michael Caine. Michael Caine one of it. Do you know who my yes is? Okay, you literally shocked, but I'm just thinking of him giving a makeover. Yeah, no, I know, that's why and one of the most like he's such an esteemed serious yea, but he And the thing is this cast. It's like Benjamin Bratt, Sandra Bullock, Candice Bergen, Michael Caine, William Shatner, like all of these incredible actors in this movie. And this is why romcoms works so well then, because this was a huge studio release with all these like Oscar factors, Like we was just a throw away. It wasn't like a throwaway watches on a Friday night in Netflix and forget about it. They like approached this like it was Shakespeare, like these people exactly. They approached it like it was Shakespeare. And that is the way to make a romantic comedy. Anyway. So Gracie Heart then has to they have to bring in Michael Kaine's character, who is like a deportment expert like etiquette, also trains people for the pageants. He's also like a pageant cope, and he is revolted by Gracie Heart when he meets her, absolutely revolted. And the fun thing about it is like nobody just so like he's just literally like this, what is like a cow. She's disgusting, And Sandra Bullock is so good like her physical comedy. Like the first scene is they're meeting together having lunch in a restaurant and he is just looking at her with this intense disgust on his face in a way that only Michael Caine can and she's like ripping into this food and all swapping down her face like with her frizzy with her frizzy hair, the ultimate cry. And Sandra Bullock said that she really leant into really wanting to make Gracy like as unattractive as she could so that the makeover scene paid off. So she was really behind the scenes pushing like no, let's have food in her teeth when like when we first meet her, like let's have like her clothes be kind of really disheveled, like she she walks around really hunched over. And Sandra Bilok also said that it was so funny because it only took like less than an hour in the makeup chair to make her look like Gracy pre makeover, but then she had to spend like three or four hours in the makeup chair for Gracie afterwards, just to even in the scenes where she's just walking around just to look like a normal woman. Yeah, and I was like, I love that. Even Sandra Bulok is like, it takes four hours to make me look like a natural Sandra Bok. So the stakes of this maker is so high because the FBI is involved. They're like, how do we make this ugly woman beautiful? So they get this like literal warehouse, like a huge warehouse, and it's full of like the tanners, the waxes, the beauty maker everywhere is this place. I know, I want to grab me out. Well, this is like that, Like it's so funny because it's like this is what it takes a woman look beautiful. It's like we have the whole FBI army making literally taking over what looks like an army base. That's so fair, like this huge bunker and they go in there and they have to like wax her and tan her and all this stuff, and she's hating and you never see it. And then you see Benjamin Bratt and his like crew on the outside with the plane like waiting to fly her to the pageant to like get her in, like where is she? Where is she? And all of a sudden, the big bunker door like slides open and Mustang Sally starts playing I Got It and it's just the best. It's one of the best movie music moments in history. And it's a cover of Mustang Sally. So they did a cover of it, and Sandra Bullock played the tambourine, I think because she's like just want to be involved, yeah, just wants to be part of it. So and there's a slow motions shot and then Sandra Bullock as Gracie Hart walks out. You have to, I mean, don't watch this until you watch the movie because a bigger moment. Again, it's so sexist but so good. I love it so much. And the camera pans up super slowly over her body and she all of a sudden, she's tan, she's shiny, she's wearing a purple mini dress. Love her hair of course straight, it's straight straight, it's straight straight as an ironing board, like literally not a hair out of place, and her hair's all glowy. And Benjamin Brat, like his character, I'm just using his knee because that's how people are. It just rips his sunglasses off in and his jaw drops open and everyone around him is like, oh my god. And she's strutting and then she just falls straight over. And before that she has an iconic line about like I haven't done this, I haven't eaten doped mess with me, and then she just topples over because she can't walk in heels. She's so real for that. Yeah, and it's just such a huge moment. And obviously, like later on when her and Benjamin Brad's characters fall in love, it's very much they fall in love because like their personalities, but it's also because she's super hot now. 16:51Speaker 3 Yes, because she had the purple dress, and then she has to. 16:53Speaker 1 Go through the Miss America pageant, right, which is again it's so the comedy is just so. 17:00Speaker 3 She's great, like it's funny. 17:03Speaker 1 I think that's the role she should have won. An Oscar for I know they don't like to give oscars to comedy actresses, but there's so many good one liners that she delivers, and her physical comedy is so good. Oh my god, you're gonna love it. Okay, you're gonna love it. I've watch it. I can't believe I was sole jealous of you. They get your torch it for the first time. 17:18Speaker 2 I think I've watched a lot of things, but when I'm under the age of ten, like. 17:23Speaker 1 I just feel like that's a movie that gets referenced all the time, that's still in the conversation. So I would sort of believe that more for movies that fall out of the conversation, but that's still at anyway, you get to watch it, so please and report back on your next on the next time you're on the pod. But yeah, that to me, that stands out as the biggest reveal of a make over and the biggest and also the fact that a lot of other makeover scenes are just like, I don't know, we can get one stylist in someone's bedroom and we're just like, but this is like, no, no, this is an industrial fispiration to make a normal woman look like the ideal of a woman. And you know what, I love it so much, this congeniality. If anyone else has watched it? All right? 18:01Speaker 3 Next on my list another movie that I rinsed to death. 18:04Speaker 2 I used to sit in front of my TV with the lyrics book because it is spoiler a musical. 18:09Speaker 1 Okay it's grace, Oh okay, yes, I love my god. Watching this as a kid, all I wanted to do was be a sexy Sandy And I'm so far from all of that. But all I wanted to do was wear leather pants and strut around. Yeah, which would I worked for me? 18:24Speaker 2 Carnival, Yeah, they're all like thirty years old as well, exactly, so many like I don't know about you, but I again, watch that movie as a kid, over and over again, all of the references straight over my head. 18:36Speaker 1 Didn't realize what a hickey from Kinnicky was now, didn't realize about the whole like having sex in the back of the cars, didn't realize that a pregnancy scarab was what she was worried about. Literally, no idea, just like the songs really exactly. And you know what, like kids watch sexy movies. 18:51Speaker 2 So my dad loves Grease yeah, so that's how I was like introduced to me. 18:54Speaker 3 So we always watch it when I was younger. 18:56Speaker 2 But I think it has one of the most iconic transformation make overs but also a little bit controversial. So obviously we follow the lives of Danny played by John Travolta, and then we have the lovely Olivia Newton John as Sandy, who's like this very clean cut, cutesy good girl, and Danny's this bad boy, like grease up completely opposite. 19:18Speaker 1 World ultimate like Romeo and Juliet story, like they come from different worlds. How could they ever be together? Could they ever? 19:25Speaker 3 We'll tell you how. 19:27Speaker 2 All it takes is a pair of leather pants and a red lip, according to sandrew D. So she walks out in the final like scene sequence, they've you know, had a little bit of push and pull this whole time. 19:38Speaker 1 So they both go to. 19:39Speaker 2 These I don't want to say extreme lengths because all Danny does to change himself for Sandy's put on like a little lettermon jacket, like a little nit jacket. That's all he does, which I feel shows the extent of effort that like men are going to change for us. 19:51Speaker 1 Yes, that's so true. There's such a good lesson in Greece that modern women. 19:55Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then obviously Sandy shows up in these insane leather pants. It's beautiful, like off the shoulder, black top, red lip, she's got this bold like curly hair, actually doing it for. 20:07Speaker 1 The color girl God. So actually it's a so debunked. We have been raised our whole lives to think that Grease is actually anti feminist, because it's feminist. The initial kind of message that we took away from the movie was this movie is telling us you have to change yourself for a man, and that's bad. But actually, what we've uncovered today is that it's actually a feminist plot because she's saying curly hair can actually curly hair is. But while curly, did you ever have Like I used to be obsessed with grease And then I got my mum to get me these like old school not even get me. I think they were my moms from like when she was a kid, these like old school hot rollers, And I would hot roll to look like Sandy, and I thought it looked so chic when I was like eleven, and looking back now, I did look like a poodle. Yeah, that was me. With the red lip. Yes, it never worked really for me. 20:50Speaker 2 It's giving dancers steadfast, but I gave it, gave it a go. 20:54Speaker 1 I still do it red lip. I still do black leather and a red but you rock a red lip. I'm just I'm just sandy on the Yes, we. 21:00Speaker 2 All have a little bit of sty but yeah, I think it definitely is a little bit of. 21:03Speaker 1 A feminist like move. 21:04Speaker 2 A lot of people can say, you know, she's changing for Danny, but I think what we see is, you know, she's like leaning into her confidence and like it's like a bold yea. 21:12Speaker 1 Well, because you can take it either way, you can take it. You're right that she's becoming who she wants to be. But that's the thing feminists like, these makeover scenes are always wrapped up and like, no, she's empowering herself, and it's like no, no, no, she's dressing for the male gaze and that's fine. 21:27Speaker 3 Who she chose to do it, but only. 21:30Speaker 1 Because she felt desperate that he would leave her. But again, who amongst us hasn't dressed for the male kase? Exactly? 21:35Speaker 2 Guilty, It's a time and a place exactly. 21:41Speaker 1 Right, is exactly. But again, I just can't hold that in my head. When I watch gree it's like I'm aware that it's there. I'm aware of this idea and it's a different time, and it's got the best like mic drop moment of like like literally like the whole carnival turns to her and then she has that iconic clim when she has tell me about it. Stud. So also she's smoking. 22:02Speaker 3 She doesn't know how to smoke. 22:03Speaker 1 But she's doing it. I'm looking friends, how do I put it? That's just a good moment. Oh my god, Olivia Neton John is so good. So again, it's sexualizing dressing from man, it's sexualizing like like smoking and like that bad girl. But I don't even care because you know what, smoking does look sexy on screen? It does. Don't do it, don't do it. 22:20Speaker 3 But sometimes it looks chic on the screen. 22:22Speaker 1 Yeah, it always always looks cheek on screen. 22:25Speaker 2 Now, they do have this like fairy tale ending they get into a convertible when they fly off into the sky. 22:29Speaker 3 But there are actually a lot of fan theories. 22:32Speaker 1 Are you gonna say that they're dead? 22:36Speaker 2 So basically there are theories that when they fly off into the sky that they actually passed away and that Sandy actually died from the very first scene where they're first on the beach, because Danny when he's singing someer love and there's a line where he said, you know, she almost drowned. 22:54Speaker 1 I saved her. 22:55Speaker 2 So it turns out, according to this theory, that she in fact drowned, and then we enter this like homo fantasy for the entirety of the whole film, and that's how they're flying off in the end. 23:09Speaker 1 I have heard that theory that this is all Sandy's, Like, this all happened in the moment she died, and this is what living through like living through those moments is that she fantasized going to school with Danny and then falling in love and stuff. But it's very intense and also like none of the screenwriters have said that's true. But I love I love when like a theory for like a really old school movie like this just takes it takes. 23:29Speaker 3 Over a life of its own, like people run rampant with it. 23:33Speaker 2 I hate to disappoint anyone that thinks they're dead, but the creator has since come out and said. 23:38Speaker 1 That that's absolutely it's not the case. They're not dead. 23:41Speaker 2 Also, there's so many like fantasy moments in the film I just love to grab on exactly. 23:46Speaker 1 Well, I guess I just want to explain why the calf flies at the end. It's not even a good theory though, the calf flies at the end because it's a movie and things happen in movie music and that's fine. But no, that's a great make over scene. Love that, And it does go to show that if you're having problems relationship, if you put on a pair of black leather pants, they will go away. 24:03Speaker 2 Oh and apparently they had to show them onto her body so tight. 24:06Speaker 3 It's so tight their vintage Yeah, oh love. 24:09Speaker 1 Okay, the next one I'm going to bring up is the most realistic movie makeover I have ever seen, so in a way that it's actually quite a feminist makeover. Again, not that that matters, we're putting that out the window. Bring the hat back in dress. No, no, the hat's on the doorn on. It's not all the way back in the room dress for the male gaze. It's fine in a movie, But this one I always think is like a beautiful way of watching, like seeing a makeover happen really really slowly, and having it be part of the character's evolution in a way that just feels so real. And this makeover scene is from the two thousand and two classic My Big Fat Greek Wedding. Oh have you seen it? Yeah? No I haven't. Yeah, what a great movie? 24:50Speaker 2 Right? 24:50Speaker 1 The is not to speak The first one is the first one I would say is a perfect movie. So in this if anyone hasn't seen it. Nina the Dallas, who also wrote and produced and created the movie, plays Tula and John Corbett our favorite rom com boyfriend. John Corbet's just in every room. Yeah, they just throw him in and he always. 25:11Speaker 2 Works once they get one good one. I feel like it just becomes a role like everyone's boyfriend. 25:16Speaker 1 He just has that vibe and like movies have been like and parts of been like created and written for him, like him playing Aiden Sex and the City. They created like a lot of that role for him. And also the rom com starring Kate Hudson Raising Helen. Have you seen that? Oh you should watch it? Really got it to listen, where she plays a model agent who her sister passes away and she has to like raise her children. John Corbett plays her love interest in that, and I remember like listening to director being like, well, but why would she fall it? Because she's like this beautiful New York like styler that everyone loves. Why would she fall in love with the high school principle like we have to give him something? And then they looked at him like he's John Corbett. Yeah, that's his thing. That's it. We don't have to add anything. Fine, And when you watch the movie, you're like, yeah, I get it. So John Corbett plays Ian Miller and so the story is actually have such a vivid memory of seeing this movie for the first time because it's one of those movie experiences that stays in my head forever because it came out when I was like just starting high school and one of my really good friends in high school is Greek, and so they held like a screening, like the Greek community in Townsville, like the Greek Community Center held a screening as like a fundraising thing, and so we all went to that, and yeah, it was the best way to see it because there's a whole cinema full of Greek people and so they were screaming the joke person and it was just like the vibe was so high. Also, like the characters in this speak Greek, and so they would say a joke and they would all laugh, and then the subtitles will pop up and then like the non Greek s bea because we would all laugh and we're like, oh, we got it now, Like that is really funny. So I Sultays remember it as being like this really joyful experience. So Tula is like an adult. They sort of say her age, like she's like probably in her late twenties, but like in the like you know, Greek household, like super old, unmarried, no children, a pariah of a family, if you will. And she works in like the restaurant, and like she lives with her parents, and her life is so small and everyone's just like she's so frumpy, and you know, all that sort of stuff. And then slowly over time she decides to start kind of changing her life, not on a huge scale, in a way that feels so beautiful relatable in terms of like she goes and takes some computer courses at like a community college, and she's and she then gets a job outside of the family, so she kind. 27:26Speaker 2 Of a second coming of Age's definitely. 27:30Speaker 1 Was really small looking at her parents house and she goes to work in another family business where she's like out you know, by herself in the office. And during all this she gives herself like a little makeover that's peppered through this montage, but it's more so like she'll just wear like instead of wearing like the overly frumpy clothes she was wearing, she just buys herself like a nice dress and a matching cardigan, and then you see her like try and like like do her eyebrows and she puts like just a little bit of lipstick on and like she's like and again the frizzy hair is the frizzy hazel thing, but she does straightened, but it's not pinned straight. She just kind of smooths it and stulls like she put rollers in it. And it's this beautiful, quiet, little makeover that she just does to herself. 28:11Speaker 2 And I think that's what makes it, Yeah, that it's something that she found in herself and like exploring your like your own identity and like finding who you are verse like having the FBI coming it. 28:22Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. When you put the two makeover scenes here that I brought up, it's like one is like, yeah, fifty people in like a government funded bunker trying to make Sandra Bullock look like a woman. And then the other one is just a woman at home in her childhood bedroom, just putting on a little bit of lipstick like Tula, just like you know, and she puts on a card again, and the thing is it just changed all of a sudden, she just feels like herself. And I think this is why it's one of my favorite movie makeovers, is that she hasn't done this too, Like she hasn't met Ian Miller yet, so she hasn't done this for a man. She hasn't even done it with the idea that she could possibly meet a man, because she's still working in like the family business. It's more so that as she kind of got a little bit of education and stepped outside of like the tightness of her family, left her bedroom and just kind of fell like, well, likely she's just prings so much time there. Now she's out in about the world, and all of a sudden, she just becomes the person that she wanted to be. Like it feels like it feels like it's actually the only movie makeover I can think of where it feels like it's just for the Carroc. 29:17Speaker 3 And it's happened before they've met the guy. 29:19Speaker 1 And it's not serving the plot, Like, no one's saying like you have to have makeover so you can be the price of the princes. You could be the prompt get the guy exactly. This is just for her and it's so beautiful and so small and quiet, and she doesn't look She looks different at the end of the movie than she does at the start, but not drastically drastically different. She does take her glasses off on my context is that scene of her trying to contacts. Had to put that in there, exact, had to get it in there. So basically it's like less frizzy hair, no contacts, a cardigan, and some nice lipstick, but not as extreme as other makeovers. And so then she's so happy because she's educated herself. She's working in an office and then Ian Miller played by John Corbett just happens to walk by and sees her get stuck in the headset headset. She tries to get up, and he goes into a travel agent and they chat and they just have this beautiful like courtship courtship is the correct word, where they fall in love but then when they get engaged, huge controversy. He's not Greek and her family unaccepted him. This movie has if anyone hasn't seen it, I cannot recommend it enough because the one liners are so good, Like when they get engaged and she takes him over to her big family gathering. He's like family dinner, like five people, She's like, no, fifty five and they say, like, he doesn't eat meat. I like to put that line in here. It's so good, and just like the lead up to their wedding and everything, and I just like even with her wedding, like she looks gorgeous, but it's never this idea of it. She has to be like overly made up. She looks like a completely different person. So I just think if there's like one movie makeover scene that kind of really changes that formula and makes it like part of the story. It's my big, fat, great wedding and tulla And you know, sometimes okay to put on a nice cardigan and some lipstick and go work in the family travel agency and you'll meet John Corbett. That is quite and that's a lesson. Sometimes it's okay to do all do all those things. Yeah, well, I think the biggest thing is she gets a macover while she goes to community college and gets an education. As we know, that is the thing that will say she three exactly so maybe fair great wording. Love it so much? 31:15Speaker 2 All right, we've come to the man, the man make Yes, it's crazy stupid love. 31:22Speaker 1 Oh my god, yes, okay. 31:24Speaker 2 Steve Carell, he plays col Cow's life is falling apart. His wife has left him. He's trying to get back out into dating. He's hopeless. He's quite a bit of a dig. He's in a bar and he runs into this really cool womanizer obviously played by none other than Ryan Gosling because who else. 31:42Speaker 1 Could and the best supporting actor his abs. Oh my god, they should be in the credits one hundred and they get a whole scene with Emma Stone's character dedicated and not only did he work out for months to get them, but they had like special makeup artists, like because you again, those makeup artists have to come in and do the shading and the bronzing and like draw them on. But they're also just there. They're almost too much like when she sees it, when when like Emmaston's character season and she's like, those are photoshops. I don't think I want to be with someone with apps like that A good look up close and just see them just from just to know what the muscles would look like. But I don't need to feel like that's a violation. 32:19Speaker 3 But for those who are watching the bar is imagining. 32:22Speaker 1 Feeling that's going to put me on a watch list somewhere. But yes, we have a male makeover. 32:30Speaker 2 Isn't interesting like flip on the script of like what we usually expect because it's the woman kind of going through the midlife crisis here where she's had an affair and now the man is like having this like makeover off the back of it. So he goes on this like there's like this three minute makeover montage where they like change all of his outfits. He's learning how to like speak to women, getting all the tips and then putting into the practice. 32:54Speaker 1 It's just like not something you expect either. 32:56Speaker 2 For like Steve Carell, he does it so well because he's just not someone you expect to be like hitting up the ladies in a bar. 33:03Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like that is so true that he gets a makeover. But the reason I didn't come into my head when we're talking aout makeover is is that even though he does get a makeover, it's nowhere near his extreme as some of these other makeover scenes with women. I guess with men, there's only so much you can do once you sort of wax them because their hair of shorts is not that curly. You can't have that. You don't have the curly plotline. And I guess that he didn't have glos. They should have put him in glasses. He did look very like dad because then they could no, he does look different. Like it's a good makeover scene, but I'm just saying it doesn't have like the kind of and they don't have a montage, right, that's a mistake they should have had. They do like a full musical montage. 33:41Speaker 2 There wasn't a musical montage, but they do go through like a number of like designer clothes. There's a really funny quote where like Ryan Gosling's character is looking Steve Crorer up and down and he's like, are you Steve Jobs the founder of Apple? No, then you can't wear those to his shoes And basically the whole goal is like for Steve Carell's character to be better than the gap. 34:00Speaker 1 Oh my god. And I have a vivid memory of him like being really repulsed by his wallet and again not thinking of wallet be part of a makeover. But I guess for a guy, especially it is and the fact that it has Velcrow and I think it was like I was a kid while watching at the time, or I was like, oh my, Walter has Velcrow's cute. And I also wasn't the sexy man out in the streets. But if I wanted to be, I had the wrong wallet. Is a little bit of an egg. 34:22Speaker 2 What would you do if you were on a date with a man without he's got coins? 34:26Speaker 1 They're like jingling around. Well, oh my god, would I break up with a man if he had a Velcrow wallet? Something to think about on this if you're on the Sydney dating scene, kind of say that potentially that's gonna happen, and that's not even the worst thing. 34:38Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't think I would break up with him if they had. I wouldn't either I have a wallet for their birthday, Yeah, I. 34:44Speaker 1 Would, just especially because every time you do the rip with a Velcrow wallet, it's so loud and intense. It is it's an announcement. Yeah, and you're just like I'm opening my velcro point and there's no Yeah, that's some folded in here, and you're trying to like pull like straighten the money out because it's been folded in there. 35:00Speaker 2 Actually still have yours exactly exactly. 35:02Speaker 1 Well, I think I am one of the last team in the world who has a wallet that I. 35:05Speaker 2 Lost my wallet and now I've lost all my cards, like I get all scattered around the house. 35:09Speaker 1 Okay, no, no, no, you need it just PSA. Everyone gives me so much shit for having a wallet, but when we can, I just tell you. When someone needs a physical card or something, who do they turn to me? Who's got a wallet? It's got an emergency hair tie in it, it's got emergency cash in there. 35:21Speaker 2 So basically, get rid of your wallet if you don't want anyone to ask you for anything, yeah, exactly. 35:25Speaker 1 Or if you're going through a makeover, exactly exactly. If you're going through a makeover, that's the first thing change. Yeah. 35:30Speaker 2 I just love crazy stupid love, though obviously follows the lives of like lots of different love stories that are all like interconnected, but at the heart of it, it's like Steve's Carrell's character. Yeah, and like everything that he goes through. 35:43Speaker 3 But yeah, I love that movie. 35:44Speaker 1 It was so good. Emily and I talked about that in an episode little while ago when were actually talking about plot twists because it has who hasn't seen it, although I assuming most of you has. It has a great plot twist that is someone expected but just works so well for these characters. Oh love, Yeah, you don't spoil it for like the two people are there who haven't seen it. Okay, last time I'm going to bring up and I had to go back to nineteen ninety nine. Cool, and I just remember again watching this movie on a loop as a kid again as a kid on a VHK guest. Before you say that, oh, I'm actually I wonder if you've I mean, I hope you've seen this. Otherwise I'm going to be super disappointed. It's the nineteen ninety nine teen classic. She's all that. 36:22Speaker 2 No. 36:24Speaker 1 I know should be this surprise every time, but like, this is a classic movie. I thought you're going to say Clueless. Then, Oh, I had Clues on my list, but we talked about Clueless so many times. Yeah, we have a whole brutally honest review on it, so that's got an important makeover seeing it too. You've never seen you know what I know of it, Okay, and like that's the weird thing to me. Can I say you know of it, but you've never watched it. 36:46Speaker 3 I think a lot of it is like what my parents like fed me at that time. 36:50Speaker 1 You're an adult woman now who lives alone with your own TV. You can make your own choice. I'm just saying so many times I went home and I'm like, oh, I wish I had a new, great movie to watch. But the hard thing about me and my job, I've seen every movie. I literally have seen every movie. It's so hard for me to sit down and find a movie that I haven't seen that this is not fair, but I really want to watch. And then you're spoilt for choice. You could sit down a fry night. There's so many. 37:13Speaker 2 Movie hours an hour, and I got in my adult life too, it's valuable, like I've things to look forward to exactly. 37:19Speaker 1 You would love this again. This out of all the movies on my list, this is probably kind of the most problematic. 37:24Speaker 3 Okay. 37:24Speaker 1 It's also like using a woman for like a nefarious reason over like sexualizing her and there's a slight sprinkling of sexual assault end. But it's a classic. So she's all that. It came out in nineteen ninety nine and it stars Rachel Lee Cook. Do you know that name? Blasphemy? Rachel Lee Cook was in the late nineties, only two thousands. I'm a icnic girl. She started so many big movies. Also, Josing the Pussycats was a movie that was torn apart and I think did wreck her career. I think, but now we look back at it and see it for the masterpiece that it is. So she plays Laney Bogs. What a name? I don't know. They were like, you know what, this girl's gonna be unpopular and ugly, and we're gonna give her name's gonna be Laney Bogs, and that's going to explain exactly why. 38:07Speaker 3 Laneye b would be cute. 38:08Speaker 1 Yeah, they don't call it that. And so Lanny Blogs is she's an artist at school, and she was like and she kind of just looks away at paintings all this sort of stuff, and she dresses like an absolute hobo. So they went to because Rachel Lee Cook is a really like a classically beautiful kind of pixy looking woman, and so they really had to go to town to make her unattractive. So they've dressed her in like really oversized, paint slatted clothes. People don't want women to be comfortable, no, exactly, and you know what, she is so comfortable. That's what I take away from her, Like, and she's wearing about fifteen and before she gets her makeover, she's wearing about fifteen layers of clothes in all scenes, like she'll have like a pair of like old pants on and like a long top over that, and then like a singler and then that's very inn now and like an exactly ahead of her time. So Laney Bogs is the most unpopular nerd at school and they have have he do the classic thing of like the first time we really see her, she just falls over. Girls in rom coms always falling over. Sometimes they're so hot and beautiful that they fall over because like I'm so clumsy, and sometimes it's to show they're a nerd. But and then like feeling around exactly well exactly, and she and she wears really big glass okay of course, and straight hair but pulled back in a low ponytail I'm not a sleek ponytail like a I do anything to my ponytail. But the glasses is the real thing. So she So she's the ugly girl at school. And then we have Freddy Prince Junior and this is peak Freddy Prince Junior era. Don't I mean, I don't want to say his air is completely over, but like this was peak, Like he was the wrong com leader and so many things. Playing Zach Syla and he is like the sports storry. I know, Lany Bogs Zach Syler. You know he wrote on this movie m Night Shamalan before he did six Cents. Yeah, like I know, well, you could just be a skipper for high It's like hash. It's like haw Shonda Rhimes wrote the classic Britney Spears movie Crossroads. 40:05Speaker 2 Job. 40:05Speaker 1 Yeah, before you have your big break, you just write the scripts that are out there. So Mna Scharmalan is like I can just imagine he had like the sixth cent script on one screen and like the other and between them. So Zach is like the actual like the jock of the school, the king. Everyone loves him. They're all seniors in their final year of high school and they're coming up to prom and again a very old school like American high school thing is like the prom is always like the climax of the movie, like everything's leading towards that. The rest of his cast is like a who's Who of the nineties. We have Matthew Lillard as Brock Hudson. He's like a reality stuff. Paul Walker, the late Paul Walker again peak kind of his like era playing Dean. And then Jodi Lynn O'Keefe. I don't know if you know that name, but you would know her face. She is in every kind of she's She wanted to be on the Vampire Diaries and stuff later on, but she was in a lot of these early like teen movies, always as like kind of the high school mean girl, the beautiful high school young girl. So Zach and Taylor have been Taylor Vaughan have been together, and they're like they're going to be prom king and queen. That's their thing. Only Taylor meets Matthew Lylard's character, who is old of them out of high school, a reality TV start on the real world. In the real world, Ye dumps Zach for him, and it's like anarchy in the school that the couple has broken up and that Taylor has dumped Zach, and then everyone feels sorry for Zach. And he was like, I can have any girl I want. This is not romantically he meant to fall in love with him, and you kind of do, but he's like, I can have any girl I want. He's like, I could make a girl like that. So this movie is actually based on Pigmalion, which is a play in a book that then went on to inspire the Audrey Hepburnt movie My Fair Lady. So this is a play. Do you know there was a moment in time there where like Clueless is based on Emma and She's the Man, Yeah, And She's the Man is based on Twelfth Night, and as we discovered another podcast the other day, Bridge Jone's Diaries Pride and Prejudice. So this was a big moment in time where, like all of these teens, the biggest thing you could do for box office gold was to remake these classic literature as a teen rooman, now we make movies from last year, and now we'll just remake anything that's out there in the world. So Zach is like, I can make any woman. I can make her the popular girl. And so Paul Walker's character makes him a bet. He's like, Okay, I'm going to bet you that you can't make like a girl that I pick in this school into the prom queen. And Zach's like, pick someone. And that's of course when Lanye makes her entrance, comes up the stairs. She's making fifty layers of clothing. She's got fifty bags eye and she like immediately falls to the floor. And he was like, and then I'm just gonna say Paul Walker because it's two, so you know who I'm talking about. Paul Walker goes her and Freddie Prince Junior. Zach is like, Lady Box, absolutely not. He's like, like, the subtext is she's the ugliest woman I've ever seen. So then he has to the subjects of all these exactly, and then Zach's like, well, I'm gonna have to do this now. So then Zach has to go and try and befriend laany Bogs. And it's so funny when he like keeps trying because he's used to. He's the star of the school, he's the sports star. Everyone loves him. He's so charming. So he kind of goes over to her, like later that night he goes up and to her where she's working, where she's wearing this like huge, full lawful hat because she works in like service industry and he's like never worked a day in his life, and he's like kind of like hey, and she just has no time of day for him, and so funny because she's like, look, I'm not smart, and he's like what this is kind of like a good kind of like twist of that classic like dumb jock smart girl being ugly. She's like, I'm not smart. I know I look smart because I got the subtext is because she's got wearing glasses. I know I look smart, but I'm not. And I can't choot. I can't chewt to you. She's like, I can't. I know you're probably failing school, but I can't help you. I can't choot you. I just I look smart, but i'm not. He's like that is oh no. Then he's like, oh I'm smart. I'm like the third top of that class. I don't need tutoring, thank you so much. So he's smart. So he is smart, yeah, because he's like his whole subject is like his parents like you're going to like this fancy school and you're gonna do this, You're gonna do that. He's like, he can't pick anything of his life. Smart boy, I know, sucks. And so then he starts to befriend her, and like slowly over time, starts to sort of like make her over and teach her how to be cool. And the makeover scene is so so important because up until this he has no like sexual interest in her because she's got glasses, you know, of course, and he can't tell, Yeah, he can't tell because it's pulled back, and he can't tell that she's got a tiny hot body because she keeps falling over and oversized and she falling over so she has a muscle issue. It's all happened. So he's like, he's like, I'm gonna make her gorgeous, but I have no interest in her. And then he brings over his older sister, Mac played by Anna Papquin, and Anna Pumpquin is only in this movie for a short moment, but she makes She comes into this sassy older girl from college, his sister. And then there's this party at school and so Mac takes Laney upstairs and they have this moment where and this moment has been parodied so many times, most famously in Not Another Teen Movie, where all she does is pull out the ponytail and she's like, and you're beautiful. But they at this moment too where lady talks about the fact that her mom died when she was little and so she's been raising her little brother and looking after her dad, and she's like, I just never had a mom to like teach me this stuff, because Mac is like, in the nicest way possible, your eyebrows are disgusting, let's pluck them, Like why don't you wear makeup? And she's like, well, I didn't have anyone to teach me, which is lovely also so young, like yeah, yeah, Well she's a senior in high school and she's never plucked her eyebrows, which isn't the craziest thing at all, but the movie does make you think like her life has been severely stunted because of this. So this college student cuts her hair so instead of having and again usually they add hair in, so this is also maybe not even like a flipping the script, but at the time they so she has this like long, kind of straight, like scraggly hair, they cut it into a super super chic boss she does yeah, yeah, exactly, cuts her head perfectly, plucks her eyebrows, takes the glasses off, apparently does like a huge tan and stuff. And then we have a staircase, and all we haven't had a staircase moment so far as you know, all good movie makeover scenes really need a staircase. That's the moment. So Zach's downstairs, he's waiting to take it as party. He's expecting Lady Bogs to come like like his sister's just gonna like put some lipstick on her and she's gonna come frumpy down the stairs. All of a sudden, the camera pans up the stairs and a slow plan and you see a foot come down in a red high heel, and then the classic song kiss Me by Sixpence none the Richer, also from Dawson's Creek. I kind of tell you how this movie. This song is like this soundtrack of my entire teenage years. And every time I play it now, I actually, that song's too powerful. I have to be careful when I play it because if I play it with the street oh passion stranger, like I can't. That song's too powerful. It's just like it just makes you right, because it's a soundtrack to all the big romantic moments in our lives as that we watched on screen and not participation saying I don't have that many referends. No, no, no, I've never had a romantic tree that song, but it makes me think of a time where like it's signaled this like cue a social cue tea. Yeah, it's like this subconscious like dog whistle of like I'm about to fall in love for the first time, and as a woman in her late FERI I still feel that. And so the camera pans up kiss Me starts to play, and then you see Lannie for the first time post makeover, and she is an absolute bombshell. She's wearing a tiny red mini dress, one of the most iconic dresses in film. I would say, she's got this beautiful, not over the top makeup, like not a red lip or anything, just like beautiful, smoldering, bronzy makeup, a beautiful chic Bob and Zach like loses his mind, he cannot believe it. We look on and Freddie Princeton up give that man at the Academy Award. He just he's like, oh my god, this is the most stunning woman I've ever seen. This is simple manner exactly. You put in a red little as in my early twenties, I had so many little red party dresses because all I wanted to do was dressed like Lannie. I was just waiting for a stair I was waiting for a staircase, and I've never lived in a house with staircase. How will I make my entrance? So she's walking down the stairs, the song's playing, it's so beautiful, and then she falls face first down the stairs. Well, she grabs the because she walked in Heels's true. It's actually like a quite a it's quite dangerous. Yeah, she's trying to do a slow walk down the stairs in heels, the first time she's ever worn heels. It's actually quite the moment. So the spell is like broken because she has to grab the railing and he has to help her, and everyone's like ooh, and he's like ill and he's like, oh, I remember how before? Yeah, I don't know. But falling when you're hot and following your ugly too true. When she fell when she was ugly disgusting. When she falls and she's hot, he's like, pretty well, help you yeah, pretty brifect. Yeah, it's so funny. And before before she comes down the standcase, Anna Patlin's character Mac does a little introduction. She's like, and they try to I think they're aware there that like, giving this teenage girl a bombshell makeover might send the wrong message. They try to dilute it, but it doesn't work. That's what I was thinking, is. 48:54Speaker 2 That putting it like a young girl in like red dress, red heel. 48:57Speaker 1 A sexy red dress for a man that's trying to win a bet with her. Yeah, there's a lot. It's all trying to make grimacing for anyone who cuts. So Mac tries to sort of dilute the message. So she comes down before Lane and she goes introducing the not improved but different. It's kind of what she says Lady Bogs. She's like, not improved but different because she's trying to be like, no, she was good before, and I'm like, guys, she wasn't good before. That's the part of the whole the movie. That's the premise of this exactly. And so as it goes on, she does dress better, but she doesn't like overly change how she dresses. And then she wears this like black glittery dress to the prom, and she does look nice, but it's the whole thing because she goes with Paul Walker's character and then he tries to sexually assault her and then Zack Syla saves her and then they fall in love and have a gorgeous kiss and then there's a huge dance number. There's the best dance number that it's a lot happens. That's a lot that poor girl. Yeah, yeah, she goes through a lot. Well, she finds out before the prom that it's a bet, and she has this moment where she yells act She's like, all of a sudden, this turns into like it does turn into a Shakespearean drama. It's not based on Shakespeare, but the vibe. She's like, am I bet, am I bet? Am my fucking bet And he just looks at her asi and he goes yes. And then oh my god, burn it into my soul that moment because you just like I remember as a kid, like nearly crying. I'm like, yeah, it's over, Like they'll liver be in love now where they do spoiler alert end up in love. She should be like, thank you for the makeover. Yeah, exactly. Now everyone at school wants me because they realized I'm not I could make a man. Yes, that's the sequel, so that in my head is well. There's a remake with Addison Ray called He's All That. Whether I've watched that, but I don't that. 50:34Speaker 3 I think I don't remember it because I had to burn it out. 50:36Speaker 1 That is a burable movie. Okay, that movie is blaspheming. They tried to flip the script by making it a girl making over a guy, which I'm all for, but the movie itself is terrible. So I can't believe. You can't not You cannot live in a world where you've watched He's All That and not She's All That. I know when one is a one is an abomination and one is a classic teen movie. So you've done that wrong. I'm sorry. So She's All That one of the teen movies that still lives in my head is one of the best makeovers ever. And again, don't listen to that song, just like on the Fly, Oh it's too dangerous, dangerous, use it responsibly. 51:12Speaker 2 Thanks so much for listening to the spill today. Don't forget to follow us on socials. 51:16Speaker 1 We've popped. 51:16Speaker 2 The link in the show notes will be back in your feed bright and early tomorrow with morning tea. 51:21Speaker 3 Ash London has all of the entertainment headlines. 51:24Speaker 1 To start your day. 51:25Speaker 2 The Spill is produced by Minishi Sworn with video production by Michael Keane. 51:29Speaker 1 Bye ByeBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mike Vrabel is skipping the NFL Draft to go to counseling. New photos just surfaced of him and Dianna Russini going back to 2020. The whole story tonight. Plus — Hilary Duff and Kate Hudson admitted on Call Her Daddy they didn't want the nice guy. Alex Cooper and Alix Earle are officially beefing. The Yankees are finally considering alternate jerseys. The Michael Jackson biopic is getting destroyed by critics and will still make $150M. The Coyote vs. Acme trailer is here and it's everything. Questions of the Day, and a Nuclear OpinionTap into Episode 729 of the Productive Conversations Podcast—available now on all podcast platforms and YouTubeVrabel Comes Clean as PDA Photos With Dianna Russini Come Out (4:10)Alex vs Alix (21:12)Call Her Daddy Guests Speak on Wild Men (34:45)Yankees New Alternative Jerseys (44:40)Michael Jackson Movie is an Apparent Disaster (58:45)Coyote vs Aceme Trailer Drops (1:04:14)Questions of  the Day:If your life had a theme song that played every time you entered a room, what would it be? (1:10:35)What's your worst “I thought I was smooth but I wasn't” moment? (1:16:10)What's a movie you love that not a lot of people know about? (1:20:30)Nuclear Opinion (1:27:38)------#trending #sports #news #entertainment #culture #popculture #podcast Best way to contact our host is by emailing him at productiveconversationspodcast@gmail.com or mbrown3212@gmail.comThis show has been brought to you by Magic Mind! Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/productive-conversations-with-matt-brown/id1535871441 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7qCsxuzYYoeqALrWu4x4Kb YouTube: @Productive_Conversations  Linktree:https://linktr.ee/productiveconversations

Heather Brooker hosts your Friday Wake Up Call. The show opens with ABC News correspondent Cheri Preston opens the show talking about kids and their e-bikes. The host of ‘Home’ on KFI, the House Whisperer Dean Sharp talks about the 10 steps to finding the right contractor. Heather shares why you need to experience the Universal Fan Fest going on now at Universal Studios. We ‘Get in Your Business’ with Bloomberg’s Denise Pellegrini who speaks on what the markets are looking like as the week comes to a close. The show closes with ABC News entertainment reporter Will Ganss talking about Charlize Theron’s new thriller, Nikki Glaser’s standup special, and Kate Hudson on the small screen.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jimmy addresses the latest news, like the Trump administration ordering marijuana to be reclassified as a less-dangerous drug, before speaking with Kate Hudson, Noah Kahan and Christian Hubicki and welcoming comedian Red Richardson for stand-up.

Kate Hudson talks ⁠⁠Running Point Season 2. Watch the video interview exclusively on Netflix. Find more podcasts at https://www.netflix.com/tudum/podcasts.

Stranger Things is officially back, but not in the way you expect. We’re breaking down the brand-new animated series that takes us right back to Hawkins in 1985 and Laura is clear on whether this return to this universe is a worthy addition to the lore or if the lack of original voices makes it feel like a different show entirely.The show we’ve been championing since day one is finally back for season two, and it’s arguably funnier (and more chaotic) than ever. If you love Ted Lasso but wish it had a Succession-style family dynamic, this Netflix hit is your perfect weekend binge. It’s messy, heartwarming, and completely unmissable. Plus, we talk about the incredible guest stars making us laugh this season.Love binge-watching TV? The Spill has launched a new podcast called Watch Party where we deep dive into the shows everyone’s talking about. Follow the feed on Apple or Spotify now. Plus remember The Spill drops the tea twice a day in this feed so follow us for all the latest entertainment news… OR you can WATCH our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and enjoy the watch! Link here. THE END BITS Find and follow us on socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thespillpodcast/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thespillpod Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thespillpodcast/ Read all the latest entertainment news on Mamamia: https://mamamia.com.au/entertainment/ Read more weekly watch recommendations from the Mamamia entertainment team here. Support Independent Women’s Media: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/ Your subscription helps us continue to tell the stories that matter to women. SUBSCRIPTION GIVEAWAY:Win a $2,000 Bed Threads voucher. Subscribe to Mamamia here before April 30 to be automatically entered. Current subscriber? You're already in the draw. T&Cs apply. Want to join the conversation? Have feedback or a topic you want us to discuss? Send us a voice message or email us at thespill@mamamia.com.au and we’ll get back to you ASAP! Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Audio & Video Producer: Michael Kean Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ryan Reynolds breaks his silence on wife Blake Lively's legal battle with Justin Baldoni. His rare comments as Baldoni pushes to expose the couple in a new way. Then, a One Direction fist fight? The new report of a brawl on the set of the boybander's now cancelled Netflix series. What Louis Tomlinson said that allegedly got him punched by Zayn Malik. Plus, an actor's shocking death at just 57. Remembering “Days of Our Lives” and “Melrose Place” star Patrick Muldoon. And, how Kate Hudson stacked “Running Point's” season 2 guest list with her star friends. Then, 20 years and thousands of outfits later, “The Devil Wears Prada” stars are back and sharing behind the scenes scoops with ET. Plus, a first look at “Practical Magic 2”.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

National Garlic day. Entertainment from 1956. "Shot heard round the world" American Revolution began, Waco Standoff ends, Oklahoma City bombing, 1st Boston Marathon. Todays birthdays - Ole Evenrude, Elliott Ness, Jane Mansfield, Dudley Moore, Eve Graham, Tim Curry, Ashley Judd, Kate Hudson. Charles Darwin died.Intro - God did good - Dianna Corcoran     https://diannacorcoran.com/Garlic - Pebbles Nursery RhymesThe poor people of Paris - Les BaxterHeartbreak Hotel - Elvis PresleyBirthdays - In da club - 50 Cent      http://50cent.com/I'd like to teach the world to sing - The New SeekersSweet Transvestite - Tim CurryExit - Shot of Jack Daniels - The Chris Goodwin Band     https://chrisgoodwinband.com/ History & Factoids about today Playlist on SpotifyHistory & Factoids about today webpagecooolmedia.comcountryundergroundradio.com

Join our ⁠Patreon⁠ family for as little as $5 per month to unlock 25+ full-length bonus episodes, ad-free weekly episodes, mp3 downloads of our original songs, exclusive Discord-channel access, and more!  Welcome back to Lez Hang Out, the podcast that has a huge lesbian crush on Anne Hathaway.  This week, Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with comedian, singer, and writer Sydney Kane (@sydneymorgankane) and talk about why the 2009 smash hit, Bride Wars, Should've Been Gay. If watching Kate Hudson and Anne Hathaway roll around on top of each other in wedding dresses was your gay awakening (like it was for Sydney), you're in the right place.  For those of you who are somehow unfamiliar, Bride Wars tells the incredibly queer story of two childhood best friends, Emma (Anne Hathaway) and Olivia (Kate Hudson), who have been planning their Pride month weddings at The Plaza since their dress-up, house-playing days. When the two do finally get engaged, their weddings end up accidentally booked for the same day in June and chaos ensues as both women proceed to lose their minds. With the wedding date rapidly approaching, Liv and Emma commence an elaborate game of chicken and petty sabotage in the hopes of getting the other to cancel before finally deciding to attempt to share the venue.  Since Bride Wars is about two heterosexual couples getting married, we expected to see a lot more of Liv and Emma's fiancés. Instead these guys are rarely on screen, even during the wedding planning stages. There is not one ounce of romance or desire shown between the couples. In the end, Emma even leaves her own wedding to go wrestle Liv, ultimately choosing to call off her entire relationship. This would've been such a prime set-up for our childhood sweethearts to end up together, but of course it's 2009 and gay marriage isn't legal nationwide yet, so we get Emma marrying Liv's brother as a stand-in instead. Classic.  We know one thing for sure, Bride Wars Should've Been Gay. If you are in or around L.A., you can catch Sydney's musical comedy special, Wife Material, live on April 21st at the Roxy. Tickets are available now.  You can support our little show by shopping small at bit.ly/lezmerch & picking up Lez-ssentials songs on Bandcamp. Give us your own answers to our Q & Gay on Instagram and follow along on Facebook, TikTok, YouTube and BlueSky @lezhangoutpod. Email us @lezhangoutpod@gmail.com. Connect with us individually: Ellie Brigida (@elliebrigida). Leigh Holmes Foster (@lshfoster). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In our final episode of our Women's History Month series, Women in Cinematography, Morgan is joined by two thirds of WATCH PARTY: A Comedy Gals Movie Night, Halley Platz and Ronnie Murphy.  Ronnie and Halley are on to discuss the 2025 film, "Song Sung Blue" directed by Craig Brewer with cinematography by Amy Vincent. The trio dive into the film's use of lighting, how the film handles the women at the center of the film, and Kate Hudson. You can follow WATCH PARTYInstagramYou can follow HalleyInstagramYou can follow RonnieInstagramYou can follow MelissaInstagramYou can follow Female Gaze: The Film ClubInstagramBlueSkyWebsite

We're attempting to define the quintessential We Love the Love movie this week as we look at the Russo brothers' much-maligned 2006 comedy You, Me and Dupree, starring Matt Dillon, Kate Hudson, and Owen Wilson. Join in as we discuss the Russos' pre-Marvel career, a hilariously miscast Seth Rogen, comedy Lance Armstrong, and several episodes of The Newsroom. Plus: Why is Michael Douglas's character so unhinged? What was Dupree's job at the start of the movie? Should married people have friends of any kind? And, most importantly, which character is "you" and which is "me"? Make sure to rate, review, and subscribe! Next week: Yours, Mine, and Ours (2005)------------------------------------------------------Key sources and links for this episode:"The Russo Brothers are Directing Marvel's Biggest Blockbusters, but They're Modeling Their Career after Stephen Soderbergh" (IndieWire)"That Time Steely Dan Wrote a Letter Trashing Owen Wilson to His Own Brother" (VICE)"The Russo Brothers, Marvel's Money-Minting Directors, Reveal their Secret Weapons" (The Hollywood Reporter)"Family Dynamic" (DGA Quarterly)

We’ve spent the week spiralling over the Suddenly 30 reboot, and it’s led us down a rabbit hole of our favourite romcoms with problematic premises, that we love wholeheartedly nonetheless. It turns out "romance" in the 90s and early 2000s was often just a crime set to a peppy soundtrack, and we're here to admit it.We're unpacking the supposed romantic "grand gestures" and breaking down the gap between what we want in real life and what we find "hot" on film, from the sex work of Pretty Woman to to why the teacher-student plot in Never Been Kissed still stops us in our tracks.Plus, we have thoughts on the 2026 "Whimsy Drought." We’re unpacking why modern movies feel too polished and why we’re self-medicating with the messy, high-stakes lying of movies like How To Lose A Guy In 10 Days. It’s a deep dive into the absolute classics that might just save you from a boring weekend.Love binge-watching TV? The Spill has launched Watch Party — spoiler-filled episode deep dives into the shows everyone’s talking about. Find the feed on Apple or Spotify.Listen to The Spill New episodes drop every Monday–Friday!Mamamia: https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/the-spill/Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3mjNFVvJp1irXNVxKXXABOApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-spill/id1473523403Follow The Spill:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thespillpodcast/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thespillpodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/thespillpodcast/Read all the latest entertainment news on Mamamia: https://mamamia.com.au/entertainment/Support Independent Women’s Media:https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/Your subscription helps us continue to tell the stories that matter to women.Want to join the conversation?Have feedback or a topic you want us to discuss? Send us a voice message or email us at thespill@mamamia.com.au and we’ll get back to you ASAP!Discover more Mamamia podcasts here: https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/SUBSCRIBE here to get 25% off an $89 annual subscription PLUS 25% off Nala. Your Mamamia discount will be applied at checkout. Then find your Nala code in the Subscriber Hub immediately after joining. Ends 1st April.CURRENT SUBSCRIBERS:Get 25% off Nala with your Mamamia subscription. Click here to get your code. Ends 1st April.CREDITSHosts: Laura Brodnik & Bree Player Executive Producer: Monisha IswaranAudio Producer: Scott StronachMamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week on And the Runner-Up Is, Kevin welcomes back Oscar Wild cohost Nick Ruhrkraut to discuss the 2025 Oscar race for Best Actress, where Jessie Buckley won for her performance in "Hamnet," beating Rose Byrne in "If I Had Legs I'd Kick You," Kate Hudson in "Song Sung Blue," Renate Reinsve in "Sentimental Value," and Emma Stone in "Bugonia." We discuss all of these nominated performances and determine who we think was the runner-up to Buckley. 0:00 - 10:34 - Introduction 10:35 - 39:08 - Rose Byrne 39:09 - 1:12:00 - Kate Hudson 1:12:01 - 1:46:30 - Renate Reinsve 1:46:31 - 2:14:21 - Emma Stone 2:14:22 - 2:45:05 - Jessie Buckley 2:45:06 - 3:34:04 - Why Jessie Buckley won / listener questions 3:34:05 - 3:37:48 - Who was the runner-up? Buy And the Runner-Up Is merch at https://www.teepublic.com/stores/and-the-runner-up-is?ref_id=24261! Support And the Runner-Up Is on Patreon at patreon.com/andtherunnerupis! Follow And the Runner-Up Is on Twitter, Instagram, and Bluesky Theme/End Music: "Diamonds" by Iouri Sazonov Additional Music: "Storming Cinema Ident" by Edward Blakeley Artwork: Brian O'Meara

Heidi and Ellen welcome the sign of Aries.  It is fitting that on the day the Sun enters Aries it is International Astrology Day and the beginning of the Astrological New Year. Today we start anew. We start afresh. We launch a new season. And with Mercury moving direct (that same day), all powers are moving towards bold ideas and assertive action. Let us ride with the hope of a new Astrological Year.   Ellen and Heidi celebrated the birthdays of film director Chloe Zhao and actress Kate Hudson (both academy award nominees). Heidi read the poem Full Moon in Aquarius by adrienne maree brown.   Chart Your Career Instagram: @chartyourcareerpodcast To connect, visit: Ellen Fondiler, Career & Business Strategist: ellenfondiler.com, IG: @elfondiler Heidi Rose Robbins, Astrologer & Poet: heidirose.com, IG: @heidiroserobbins  

This week on Two Parents & A Podcast, we're officially in the last month of pregnancy (HOW did that happen?!) and yes I was emotional Monday about transitioning from a family of 3 to 4… and I'm even more emotional now (sorry HORMONES). We talk about what this transition actually feels like, how we're trying to soak up this final stretch before baby #2 arrives, and a concept I've been hearing a lot lately: the “last of the firsts.” We also share some toddler “spring break” ideas that have been keeping us entertained this week. Then we get into a few real-life updates: where things stand with hit-and-run gate, our current family car situation (and thoughts on the Wagoneer), and wrapping up the buckle fracture saga - how we navigated a toddler in a splint for 3 weeks and what we learned from the experience, including a breakdown of what a trip to the ER ACTUALLY costs. We're also apparently “pop culture-ists” now (as Harrison calls it): Oscars takes, Kate Hudson's family tree, and our (read: Harrison's) latest Southern Charm thoughts. We wrap with a conversation on screen time for toddlers (different perspectives) and Bicker of the Week: communication styles around cleaning - because apparently “clean” means very different things depending on who you ask. LOVE YOU GUYS. Thanks for listening!!! Timestamps: 00:00:00 Welcome back to Two Parents & A Podcast  00:02:31 Last month of pregnancy… how are we here already?!  00:06:30 The last of the firsts  00:08:20 Toddler “spring break” activities to keep kids entertained at home 00:14:13 Hit-and-run gate update 00:21:48 Is the Jeep Wagoneer a good family car for 2 kids?! 00:26:16 Does anyone still watch award shows?!  00:30:30 Kate Hudson's family tree explained (lol) 00:34:27 Southern Charm (update of the WEEK? hahha) 00:38:47 How to keep your toddler in a splint for 3 weeks (what actually works) 00:41:08 ER bill breakdown post-toddler injury 00:46:36 Different perspectives on screen time for toddlers 00:51:47 BICKER OF THE WEEK: Communication styles around cleaning 00:57:36 Finishing baby boy's nursery  00:59:04 LOVE YOU GUYS! #twoparentsandapod -------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you to our sponsors this week: *Cheers: Same night out — way better morning with Cheers. For a limited time our listeners are getting 20% off their entire order by using code TWOPARENTS at https://www.cheershealth.com/TWOPARENTS  #Cheers #ad *Care.com: For a limited time, go to https://www.Care.com and use code TWOPARENTS for 20% off your initial Care.com subscription or a Senior Care Advisor Plan. *Fora: Become a Fora Advisor today at https://fora.com/twoparents *Hers: Feel like your best self again, Visit https://www.forhers.com/TWOPARENTS to get a personalized, affordable plan that gets you. *Branch Basics: Get 15% off Branch Basics with the code TWOPARENTS at https://branchbasics.com/ TWOPARENTS #branchbasicspod -------------------------------------------------------------- Listen to the pod on YouTube/Spotify/Apple: https://www.youtube.com/@twoparentsandapod https://open.spotify.com/show/7BxuZnHmNzOX9MdnzyU4bD?si=5e715ebaf9014fac https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-parents-a-podcast/id1737442386 -------------------------------------------------------------- Follow Two Parents & A Podcast: Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/twoparentsandapod TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@twoparentsandapod Follow Alex Bennett: Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/justalexbennett TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@justalexbennett Follow Harrison Fugman: Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/harrisonfugman TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@harrisonfugman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Cat and Pat reunite virtually to discuss an earnest thought about Kate Hudson, the physical experience of being a spider releasing its webbing, bladder training, and boofing.Watch the full episode on our YouTube and follow below!Show Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seektreatmentpodShow Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@seektreatmentpodCat: https://www.instagram.com/catccohenPat: https://www.instagram.com/patreegsSeek Treatment is a production of Headgum Studios. Our producer is Allie Kahan. The show is engineered and edited by Richelle Chen. The show art was created by Carly Jean Andrews.Like the show? Rate Seek Treatment on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review.Advertise on Seek Treatment via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Welcome to the Bamgboshe Happy Hour Oscars Special!

Team USA's record setting hockey gold. Also, an 81-year-old veteran and longtime coach Rob Harrelson who auditioned for the Savannah Bananas got the chance over the weekend to live out his dream with the team. Plus, a recap of the biggest fashion moments from the Oscars red carpet.  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

March, 15 2026, 8 AM; A recent NBC poll shows that the war has not fractured the MAGA base all that much, with 90% of MAGA-aligned republicans approving of the strikes on Iran. However, some prominent MAGA and conservative media figures are among those crying foul the loudest over the war. When it comes to republicans who don't align with MAGA that number falls to 54 % in support of the attacks on Iran. David Drucker and Adam Serwer join The Weekend to discuss why some elected officials in the G.O.P are getting increasingly nervous about the iran war's impact on their election prospects in November. Makena Kelly also joins The Weekend to discuss the whistleblower report revealing how social security data may have been taken by a former doge employee to his new job. For more, follow us on social media: Bluesky: @theweekendmsnow.bsky.social Instagram: @theweekendmsnow TikTok: @theweekendmsnow To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Kate Hudson is a Golden Globe-winning actress who is nominated for Best Actress in a Leading Role for her performance in Song Sung Blue at this year's Oscars. In this conversation from December 2022, Hudson sits down with Willie Geist to discuss her role in Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery, overcoming her fear of singing in public, and balancing her creative career with running Fabletics and raising a family. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

It's an honor for Phil & David just to be nominated to bring you this special episode featuring their great "Lunch" conversations with Oscar-winners -- Billy Bob Thornton, Jane Fonda, Jeff Bridges, Michelle  Yeoh, Ke Huy Quan, Cameron Crowe (with a cool question from Kate Hudson, nominated this year for "Song Sung Blue"), Allison Janney, Brie Larson and Elaine May. To learn more about building community through food and "Somebody Feed the People," visit the Philanthropy page at philrosenthalworld.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's a family affair this week, we have acting royalty Kurt Russell with his son Wyatt Russell here to talk about the brand new series of their hit Apple TV show. We've already had Wyatt's sister Kate Hudson join us, we're only a few steps away from ticking off the full family (Goldie next?). We covered everything from Kurt being a trained pilot, Wyatt never wanting to become an actor, their joint phobia of spiders, eating ready meals while filming in Australia, being wine & cocktail entrepreneurs, and we even find out that Wyatt took his very first steps on the set of our all time fave film - Overboard! We absolutely loved having this gorgeous father and son duo join us, looks like we're getting closer and closer to an invite to THAT epic NYE party…! The new series of Monarch: Legacy of Monsters is streaming now on Apple TV now. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week we're joined by Sam Sanders of The Sam Sanders Show to discuss Sinners, the most nominated film in Academy Awards history. With sixteen nominations across directing, writing, music, and acting categories, Sinners is a somewhat surprising record breaker, as genre films, especially films with horror elements, are rarely awarded by The Academy.  On this episode we discuss the film, why it was able to break through, if Sinners counts as a genre film; and if so, what genre it represents. We also get into what effect the Warner Bros. Paramount merger might have on the Oscars, the film's blunt sexuality, Michael B. Jordan's double act, and what to make of the film's coda. Finally, Sam makes an impassioned case for Sung Song Blue and Kate Hudson's nominated performance.  Check out Sam's interviews with Kate Hudson, as well as some of the cast and crew of Sinners on The Sam Sanders Show. Sign up for Check Book, the Blank Check newsletter featuring even more “real nerdy shit” to feed your pop culture obsession. Dossier excerpts, film biz AND burger reports, and even more exclusive content you won't want to miss out on. Join our Patreon for franchise commentaries and bonus episodes. Follow us @blankcheckpod on Twitter, Instagram, Threads and Facebook!  Buy some real nerdy merch Connect with other Blankies on our Reddit or Discord For anything else, check out BlankCheckPod.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Best Actress Oscar nominee Kate Hudson returns to the podcast to talk all about her role in SONG SUNG BLUE, and how the experience compares to her first Oscar nomination over 20 years ago! Kate shares how she channelled her character, Claire, how she found the harmonies with Hugh Jackson, and if she was able to shake the Milwaukee accent. Kate walks Kelly through the morning she found out she was nominated for an Oscar and what her daughter's thoughts on her award season wardrobe. Plus, Jan shares a story of taking the wrong kind of gummy! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Lili Reinhart – actress, producer and newly-minted beauty entrepreneur – joins us this week! Best known for her role as Betty in Riverdale as well as her scene-stealing turn in Hustlers. In 2024, Lili added beauty founder to her resume with the launch of her acne-friendly skincare line, Personal Day. Tune in as Lili shares how she learned to care for her acne-prone skin – and why she felt that the time was right to become a beauty founder in the sea of celeb launches. Plus, Lili tells us how she manages to keep her mental health in check - from becoming a Reiki master to exploring neuroplasticity along with hints on her campy turn in the witchy female-ensemble film, Forbidden Fruits, debuting at SXSW this month.Tune in to hear about: How Lili uses Personal Day's viral hit products, the Unplug Blackhead-Melting Nose Strips and the “Trust Me on This” Hypochlorous Acid Spray, in her own routine – and the one product that she loves to test-drive on her actor boyfriend, Jack HughesLili's exact fave eye shadows, foundations and lippies in her makeup bag right nowHow Lili is still learning to make peace with her hair, and the products she trusts to care for alopeciaHow Lili is using her role as producer to mentor up-and-coming talents, like co-star Lola TungStay tuned to the end for a fun game of “Forbidden or Fruit” - inspired Lili's latest film - where the actress shares her dos and don'ts in fashion and beautyPsst! If you'd like to try Personal Day yourself, including the new Personal Day Soft Slip Priming Milk, use code BREAKING15 at personalday.com for 15% off.For any products or links mentioned in this episode, check out our website: https://breakingbeautypodcast.com/episode-recaps/ Get social with us and let us know what you think of the episode! Find us on Instagram, Tiktok,X, Threads. Join our private Facebook group. Or give us a call and leave us a voicemail at 1-844-227-0302. Sign up for our Substack here. Subscribe to our YouTube Channel to watch our episodes! Related episodes like this: Kate Hudson's Secrets To Glowing From The Inside OutHailey Bieber on What She'll Glaze Next, Nail Secrets and The One Thing That No One Knows About HerThe Top Hair Colour Trends With Celebrity Hair Colourist Matt Rez PROMO CODES: When you support our sponsors, you support the creation of Breaking Beauty Podcast! R & CoR+Co was founded by a collective of world-renowned hair stylists - all of their products have high-performance ingredients with modern technology. Visit randco.com and use our exclusive code BEAUTY20 at checkout for 20% off your first purchase. Merit Merit is a minimalist beauty brand that makes elevated makeup and skincare designed to help you look put together in minutes. Right now, Merit Beauty is offering our listeners their Signature Makeup Bag FREE with your first order at meritbeauty.com.Nutrafol Let your hair be one less thing to worry about. See visibly thicker, stronger, faster growing hair in 3–6 months with Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you visit Nutrafol.com and enter promo code BREAKING Sephora Sephora has quality skincare for every skin type, and knowledgeable Beauty Advisors who you can trust for recommendations. You'll find top brands like Summer Fridays, Rhode, Laneige and Caudalie. Shop Skincare at Sephora! *Disclaimer: Unless otherwise stated, all products reviewed are gratis media samples submitted for editorial consideration.* Hosts: Carlene Higgins and Jill Dunn Theme song, used with permission: Cherry Bomb by Saya
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Kate Hudson is up for an Oscar for her role as Claire in the film ‘Song Sung Blue,' starring opposite Hugh Jackman as one half of Lightning & Thunder, a Neil Diamond tribute band. She spoke with Tonya Mosley about pursuing singing late in her career. We also hear from Swedish actor Stellan Skarsgard. He's earned an Oscar nomination for his performance in the film ‘Sentimental Value.' He'll talk with Dave Davies about his many roles over the years -- from 'Dune' to 'Good Will Hunting,' and 'Mamma Mia!' and recovering from a stroke that impaired his ability to memorize lines.David Bianculli reviews a new documentary about Paul McCartney in his decade after the Beatles.To manage podcast ad preferences, review the links below:See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

The months-long heated battle for Warner Bros has come to an end… Plus, one of our favorite shows, “Running Point” starring Kate Hudson, is officially back from season 2. We'll tell you more when we come back. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The months-long heated battle for Warner Bros has come to an end… Plus, one of our favorite shows, “Running Point” starring Kate Hudson, is officially back from season 2. We'll tell you more when we come back. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kate Hudson has had a hugely successful career as an actor and entrepreneur, but knew she'd always regret it if she didn't try her hand at music. Finally in 2024 she released her debut album, 'Glorious,' and got to share a whole other side of herself with the world. “I'm very happy with myself as a mother. Like I feel like I've made all the right mistakes and all the wrong mistakes,” she says. “But I couldn't say that about my art. And that would be my own personal sadness and regret, is that I didn't share my writings as a musician.” She spoke with co-host Tonya Mosley about taking the leap, her Oscar-nominated performance in 'Song Sung Blue,' and what she remembers from the set of 'Almost Famous.' Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

This week your hosts are diving into the very 2000s romance of Kate Hudson and Owen Wilson. From rom-com chemistry to real-life chaos, this on-again off-again relationship had more layers than we realized at the time. Join our Patreon for more content! - patreon.com/Beyondtheblinds Follow us on Instagram - instagram.com/beyondtheblindspod Kelli on IG - Instagram.com/laguna_biotch Troy on IG - Instagram.com/troyjeanspears --How to help Minnesota! - Rent assistance - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.gofundme.com/f/critical-rent-assistance-for-central-neighborhood-families?⁠⁠⁠⁠ Neighborhood House - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://neighborhoodhousemn.org/donate/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Stand With Minnesota - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.standwithminnesota.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ -SPONSORS--- Caraway! Caraway's cookware set is a favorite for a reason, it can save you up to $190 versus buying the items individually. Plus, if you visit ⁠Carawayhome.com/BLINDS⁠ you can take an additional 10% off your next purchase. HelloFresh! Go to ⁠HelloFresh.com/blinds10fm⁠ to Get 10 free meals + a FREE Zwilling Knife (a $144.99 value) on your third box. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this special live episode of Next Question with Katie Couric, Katie talks with Best Actress nominee (and true multi-hyphenate), Kate Hudson about her role in the new movie, Song Sung Blue. Twenty-five years after her last Oscar nomination, Kate talks about why people think this is her best role yet, the importance of taking risks in your 40s, and what it is about the film that is resonating with so many people. And don’t worry–They also dish on kissing Hugh Jackman.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.