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Podketeers - A Disney-inspired podcast about art, music, food, tech, and more!
Quizneyland Ep120: Sword of Destiny (but not really)

Podketeers - A Disney-inspired podcast about art, music, food, tech, and more!

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 9, 2026 16:22


In this episode we will learn about the development history of Shanghai Disneyland. Plus, questions on Fictional bands featured in Fox Films, Characters from The Princess Diaries, and Walt Disney! Subscribe using your favorite podcast app or listen using the link below: Podketeers.com/Quizneyland

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr
Film: Out Of My Mind (2024)

Hazel & Katniss & Harry & Starr

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 9, 2026 32:32


Joe and Brenna return to discuss director Amber Sealey (the voice of The Princess Diaries audiobook?!) and writer Daniel Stiepleman's adaptation of Out Of My Mind (2024).Starring real life disabled actor Phoebe-Rae Taylor, this Peabody-winning film will definitely get the waterworks going, especially Luke Kirby (who gives Stanley Tucci a run for his money for Best Dad in YA).Plus: the visualization of Melody's frustration; the power of silence; a kooky Judith Light; and a small but intriguing change to the climax.Wanna connect with the show? Follow us on Instagram and BlueSky @HKHSPod or use the hashtag #HKHSPod:> Brenna: @brennacgray> Joe: @bstolemyremote (Instagram) or @joelipsett (BlueSky)Have a mail bag question? Email us at hkhspod@gmail.com Theme music: Rewind Kid "Rhythm Revolution" Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Mixed Reviews
172 - Julie Andrews (with guest Chels Eichholz)

The Mixed Reviews

Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2026 136:42


This is THEE voice! This month on show we're rejoined by the one and only Chels Eichholz to talk about the woman, the legend, Dame Julie Andrews! From starting on the stage to an Oscar for her first film Mary Poppins, The Sound of Music all the way to later hits like The Princess Diaries, we cover it all! Sign up for our Patreon and get an extended cut of this episode with almost 15 minutes more content! If you have any questions/comments/suggestions for the show, follow us on twitter @TheMixedReviews, like us on Facebook, e-mail us at reviewsmixed@gmail.com, visit our Instagram or TikTok for extra content, become a patron on our Patreon, or stop by our shop and pick up some podcast merchandise! Don't forget to subscribe to us on iTunes, Spotify, Podchaser, Audible, or wherever you get podcasts! All clips are used under Fair Use and belong to their respective copyright owners.

Somebody Save Me: The Official, but mostly Unofficial, Smallville Podcast

Kneel Before Zod, Pt. XIV???Slade Wilson returns from the Phantom Zone (don't worry, he's not in the episode. thank GOD.) and Oliver thinks it's the perfect bonding opportunity for him and Clark. The two head down to P.Z. and get captured by General Zod, who has been hosting his own thunderdome there. While the bros try to get back home, Tess and Lois are having girl time at Watchtower. FYI, "girl time" equals Lois holding Tess at gunpoint.Callum Blue (Columbiana, Princess Diaries 2) makes a surprise return, and final appearance, as DC Comics' original character General Zod. As always, enjoy the show and leave those FIVE STARS!

El Filip
*DE CUENTOS DE DISNEY A DESNUDØS Y A NOVIA DE UN MAFIOSO- Anne Hathaway*

El Filip

Play Episode Listen Later May 22, 2026 60:02


Todos amaban a Anne Hathaway… hasta que el mundo entero comenzó a odiarla. Lo más impactante es que nadie podía explicar exactamente por qué. De estrella juvenil de Disney a ganadora del Oscar, esta historia revela el lado más oscuro de Hollywood, el fenómeno “Hatha-Haters”, los escándalos, la presión extrema y cómo una actriz terminó emocionalmente destruida por internet. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Time Mousechine
Ep. 251 - The Devil Wears Donna Cabonna

The Time Mousechine

Play Episode Listen Later May 15, 2026 51:04


Oh, snap! It's time to hit that runway. The Devil Wears Prada 2 is now in theaters, so we're taking a look back at Disney Channel's very own Miranda Priestly and Raven Baxter's first day working for her in the episode Dues and Dont's. Plus, updates on Princess Diaries 3, Camp Rock 3, and Miley Cyrus's Hollywood Walk of Fame ceremony speakers. ----- Follow The Time Mousechine: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Grindhouse Radio
Just Say No to Z Cavariccis (5-14-26)

The Grindhouse Radio

Play Episode Listen Later May 14, 2026 116:59 Transcription Available


Brim, Kim and Mr. Greer are back at it again. Apart from all the usual shenanigans, the gang chats about everything in pop culture with all the trimmings as they discuss the new Mortal Kombat film, Devil Wears Prada 2, and the upcoming Princess Diaries. They discuss how David Copperfield ended his residency in Vegas after 25 years, Stanley Tucci is related to Emily Blunt, and why you should never wear Z. Cavariccis. The crew also chats about the Grape Academy, Norman Reedus' new film - Pendulum, and shows that have gone off the air this year. The cast talks about Knight Rider's KITT getting a ticket in NYC, and actor Nick Pasqual guilty of attempted murder. They talk about Star Wars, and a lot of it, as well as who should be the next 007. The crew chats about entertainment news, opinions and other cool stuff and things. Enjoy.Wherever you listen to podcasts & www.thegrindhouseradio.comhttps://linktr.ee/thegrindhouseradio

Gimme Three - A Series For Cinephiles
Anne Hathaway Films (Rachel Getting Married, The Devil Wears Prada, & The Princess Diaries)

Gimme Three - A Series For Cinephiles

Play Episode Listen Later May 13, 2026 92:49


2026 is the year of Anne Hathaway. With five films being released this year, Nick and Bella are feeling the Hathaway fever. In this episode, the duo explores some of the prolific performer's most iconic roles. We start with Anne Hathaway's first Academy Award-nominated performance in Jonathan Demme's Rachel Getting Married. Second, to commemorate the theatrical success of its sequel, we dive headfirst into the world of fashion. Anne co-stars with Meryl Streep, Stanley Tucci, and Emily Blunt in the modern classic, The Devil Wears Prada. Finally, the audience pick for this week was Anne Hathaway's breakout role in Disney's The Princess Diaries. Have you seen these films? What do you think of them? What is your favorite Anne Hathaway performance?❗️SEND US A TEXT MESSAGE ❗️Support the showSign up for our Patreon for exclusive Bonus Content.Follow the podcast on Instagram @gimmethreepodcastYou can  keep up with Bella on Instagram @portraitofacinephile or Letterboxd You can keep up with Nick: on Instagram @nicholasybarra, on Twitter (X) @nicholaspybarra, or on LetterboxdShout out to contributor and producer Sonja Mereu. A special thanks to Anselm Kennedy for creating Gimme Three's theme music. And another special thanks to Zoe Baumann for creating our exceptional cover art.

Everything 90s Podcast
Everything 2000s Podcast: The Princess Diaries

Everything 90s Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 6, 2026 54:00


In Episode 9, Shaleena and Kristen share their favourite scenes from their recent rewatch of the film The Princess Diaries (2001). The Princess Diaries was released on July 29, 2001 and stars Anne Hathaway, Julie Andrews, Mandy Moore, and Heather Matarazzo.Have any fond memories related to this film? Share them with the hosts by leaving a comment on Spotify, YouTube, or Instagram.Sources:https://www.buzzfeed.com/ehisosifo1/princess-diaries-books-vs-movie Join the Everything 2000s community on the following socials:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Everything2000sPodcast  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/everything2000spod/ About the show:The Everything 2000s Podcast is your ultimate throwback guide to one of the most iconic decades — the 2000s! Hosted by Shaleena and Kristen, they're pressing rewind on the music, movies, and TV shows that raised them. Come for the nostalgia, stay for the laughs, and get ready for those deep cuts you forgot about.Listen to Kristen's solo podcast:https://linktr.ee/alittlebitalotpodcast

Film vs Film Podcast
Anne Hathaway Films Part 1 - The Princess Diaries, with Why the Flick?

Film vs Film Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2026 66:52


Send us a text about your favourite films relating to the episode.This episode of the podcast as one of the biggest films of the year is coming out on the biggest of screens in the form of, The Devil Wears Prada 2. So obviously we are bringing out our best gear to focus our attentions to the films main lead, Anne Hathaway and talking about her films. Joining me to talk all things Anne Hathaway is Claire from Why the Flick? And bringing along her co-host Danielle to join the party. Warning we will be talking SPOILERS First up is Why the Flick? choices and is going for a childhood favourite of theirs growing up and one of Anne Hathaways first roles, The Princess Diaries. On this one talk about how well the comedy scenes work. We talk about if the film actually needs to be a rom com? We talk about the fabulous Julie Andrews and Anne Hathaway together. Plus we talk about fat cats. IMDB page      Why the Flick? Podcast linkFVF Social linkstwitterinstagramTikTokAs ever please enjoy.Support the show

The Spill
Why The World Could Turn Against Anne Hathaway Again & Kate Hudson's Headline-Making Dating Ick

The Spill

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 29, 2026 38:24 Transcription Available


First up, we weigh in on Kate Hudson’s ick, she knows it's controversial, and yet she said it anyway. Plus, after a year of intense online harassment, a certain Irish star has finally sat down to address the "dirty laundry" surrounding his high-profile breakup. We unpack whether the internet's take down of Barry was called for or did the pile-on go too far.And finally, the trailer for the new Colleen Hoover adaptation is here and it’s reignited a debate about one of our most iconic leading ladies. We unpack why the "Hatha-hate" narrative is resurfacing in 2026 and question why society is still so quick to turn on women at the height of their success (plus Laura spills on what Anne is actually like behind closed doors).Love binge-watching TV? The Spill has launched a new podcast called Watch Party where we deep dive into the shows everyone’s talking about. Follow the feed on Apple or Spotify now. Plus remember The Spill drops the tea twice a day in this feed so follow us for all the latest entertainment news… OR you can WATCH our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and enjoy the watch! Link here. THE END BITS Find and follow us on socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thespillpodcast/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thespillpod Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thespillpodcast/ Read all the latest entertainment news on Mamamia: https://mamamia.com.au/entertainment/ Support Independent Women’s Media: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe/ Your subscription helps us continue to tell the stories that matter to women. SUBSCRIPTION GIVEAWAY:Win a $2,000 Bed Threads voucher. Subscribe to Mamamia here before April 30 to be automatically entered. Current subscriber? You're already in the draw. T&Cs apply. Want to join the conversation? Have feedback or a topic you want us to discuss? Send us a voice message or email us at thespill@mamamia.com.au and we’ll get back to you ASAP! Executive Producer: Monisha Iswaran Audio & Video Producer: Michael Kean Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast. From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney. 00:06Speaker 2 And I'm Tina Probus and coming up on the show today, poor little Barry Kerrigan has given a bit of a tell interview to Benny Blanco about why he had to escape Hollywood even though he's in the midst of filming one of the biggest movie franchises that is going to hit our screens in the coming years. 00:22Speaker 1 So we're getting into that because there's a few layers, there's a few secret videos. 00:26Speaker 3 I'm glad you said his name first. From here and out, he would just be Barry. 00:29Speaker 1 Yeah, let's just pull that young young or Baz, because the thing is when he says his name, we's got such an irish little to it. And I wouldn't dare. I wouldn't dare trying to speak like that man. Plus, Anne Hathaway a new trailer for one of her highly anticipated movies, one of the five movie shows coming out this year has just dropped, and of course The Devil Wears prior to two is out this week. But it started a very uncomfortable conversation around her that we're gonna jump into. But first, some important breaking news, and no, it's not the fact that Laura Dern has been confirmed to replace Helena Bondum Carter on the White Lotus season, even though that was breaking news this morning. But we have something more important to discuss. 01:07Speaker 3 Yes, we are looking at what of Kate Hudson's X, which I personally am a fan of X. I think we should all be allowed to have something that we just draw as a boundary. It's okay to have boundaries. 01:18Speaker 1 Yes, So Kate Hudson, who I'm going to say, I love a Kate Hudson interview because that's the lovely thing about growing up as the golden child of a NEPO baby family is like that girl can say whatever she wants in the nicest way possible. So Kate Hudson went on Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen this week because she's still doing promo for Running Point season two. If anyone hasn't seen that, it's on Netflix now. It's so, so, so good and she's so good in it. But one of the questions was about X, and you can see that she was like, I'm taking a stand. 01:47Speaker 3 What male behavior gives you an immediate ex Oh, oh oh, I have a Okay, I'm not this is this is going to go bad and I'm going to see it anyway and maybe headline It's fine, Okay. 02:00Speaker 1 I have a real issue with guys who like really lead with their spirituality in a in a way. 02:10Speaker 3 That you're like, why are you? I don't know, what are you doing? 02:13Speaker 1 Why am I? 02:15Speaker 3 I'm like it just immediately a red flag like something's off, yes, not right. Yeah, I have no issue with that. Thank you, Kate Hugs. 02:26Speaker 1 I love how much she had to carry out that, Like she's like, should I say it? Should I not say it? Should I speak on it? Should I? She's like, I know this is going to cause headlines. Like when I saw that, I like leant up in my seat. Yeah, what is this girl going to say? That's going to ignite these international headlines? And I'm gonna say it. Wasn't overly disappointed, Like I was not expecting her to say spirituality just because of who she is, everything we know about her for her entire life. 02:50Speaker 3 You know, surely she has someone very specific in mind. She was that one guy exactly. 02:55Speaker 1 I feel like there's a backstory here. Okay, First of all, what do you think of that as an it would that turn you off? 02:59Speaker 3 I guess in terms of spirituality, are we talking religion or more like woo woo? 03:04Speaker 1 I think in her case, I'm thinking like super woo woo. 03:07Speaker 3 I feel like both might put me a little bit off to leave with that, like it's not your whole personality. 03:13Speaker 1 Yeah, I think I think there's a bit of a backstory there we're not getting. But I can read between the lines is that this woman has been in the dating pool at many times of her life in a really specific place, like in the kind of Hollywood world of like La. She's been raised in that area, and I think what she has encountered is a lot of men who were also raised in this kind of rich, famous Hollywood kind of those echelons of they don't have they've never like confronted in their life. They've never had to think about what to do with their lives and so or like make money and all that sort of stuff. And so that type of man or person, to be honest, like men and women can do it is that they then start to sort of be like, well, what else is there? What they like grab on to this very intense form of spirituality and that's fine, but then they make it everyone else's probes. That's when Anti Cohen, I think, says. 04:04Speaker 3 Like saying it's douchey, I feel like doo sheey. It was probably definitely a subshot, and they lead with it. 04:09Speaker 1 When he said, oh, they lead with it, and she was like, yes, So it's the kind of guy that you go on a first date with. And I just like Kate Hudson sitting down and she's a good time girl, Like she seems so fun. 04:17Speaker 3 I love her. 04:18Speaker 1 She talks out the fact that she loves to like go out and have a drink and dance and like, you know, she's just a real fun person. And I think she said some of a guy who was like, let me tell you about my ten steps. 04:27Speaker 3 Which makes me interesting. 04:29Speaker 1 I never asked you one question. I think that's who she's talking about. 04:32Speaker 3 I agree. I think that's totally fair to lead with that. I also think, like for me, someone that this sounds bad, actually no saying it. 04:39Speaker 1 If Kate Hudson can take a stand, you can mind's worse. 04:42Speaker 3 I think, oh, you're well, this isn't my ick, but just someone that has a lot of goals, like men with lots of goals. Like I dated so On once and they had like a list on their wall of like their goals, And I kind of put that on par with like spiritual thing because it's probably too far. 04:58Speaker 1 I can just hear a bunch of really fragile mens screaming right now, like we can't win. The thing is if I had no goals like being there, I think leading with it is what she's saying, and that's what you're saying too, Like if he had mentioned you in a conversation like, oh, I really want to do this one day, what's one of your goals? I'm assuming that would be fine. 05:15Speaker 3 I think it's like having interests verse, you know, outlining like this is my way of life, and like assigning your whole personality to a spirituality verse like it organically coming up at a conversation. Yeah, so maybe it's the nuance to it exactly. 05:29Speaker 1 And I just feel like after a while, like Kate hasn't has said for herself, like she was in the dating pool for like a good thirty years there from when she was a teen, and she has dated a lot of really big Hollywood celebs, a lot of musicians as in like tortured kind of musicians, and she had children with like two different musicians who seem nice but kind of get the vibe of being like very much like me and me like my art, my music. And that woman has had access to like every kind of hot man in Hollywood, and she's ended up with her friend's brother who's like out of the Hollywood world. And I like, there's a lesson in that we should love for all of us that she looked away from. And she'd known this guy for years, Danny, and they have a kid. I love bought it together now and she was just like after a while that she just kind of realized it's him. It's my friend's brother who's like not famous at all. 06:13Speaker 3 What a movie on that? 06:14Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah movie. So anyway, she's taken a stand on the biggest ick, and like people have really reacted to it. Some people in the comments are like, yeah, this is my biggest ick too, and then some people like this is awful, what a terrible thing to say. But I just think, let the woman speak, turn you off the spirituality thing. I think what she's saying too, if it's the main topic of conversation, there's no one thing. If the person's right, I think it turns you off, but I know, I know so well the kind of cuy she's talking about, who would sit down and make the whole conversation about their spirituality and like if you don't agree with everything, they think that you're wrong and they're more enlightened than you, and they'd probably do yeah, exactly exactly, and like they do, and you're just like, just chill and tell me what TV show you're watching, Like I don't need to hear your ten step spirituality and why you're going to have And I'm going to burn in hell because where you're going I don't want to go. Sorry, it sounds bad. 07:05Speaker 3 For the past year, the internet has been piling on to Barry They've been piling onto that man. 07:11Speaker 1 Coward my god key, well, he says in such a husky voice. 07:17Speaker 3 Well, some people say, some people shaking Barry Yeah, Barry Kay. And it has been piling on to Barry Kay following his split from Sabrina Carpenter, where there was swirling rumors of a cheating scandal, and they have just not left that man alone, and up until now he has never addressed the rumors. He's definitely come out and like talked about the online harassment that his face and the scale of bullying that he's come up against, which has sounded really hard, but it hasn't really slowed the pace of everything down. But now he has sat down with Benny Blanco and his podcast Friends Keep Secrets and done a little bit of a heart to heart. 07:54Speaker 4 Just on a serious note. You know, I feel in the safe space to see this. And you know what, I have been avoiding stuff. I have been like, you know, I came off Instagram, you know, on social profiles. I stopped going to events. I've stopped you know, just socializing. And again it's because you know, there was a narrative out there that was never really sort of even spoken on a narrative that's not true, and I never confirmed or said anything about it, and you know, I just disappeared. 08:29Speaker 1 So there's a lot of interesting things about that podcast. Clip one is just the fact that that podcast in general, like I've watched Benny Blanco's podcast a few times, those men just sit on the floor. 08:39Speaker 3 It's kind of chill vibes. 08:40Speaker 1 Yeah, but that's not how you podcast. And I'm not getting quite try that. Yeah, I wooden floor exactly about us, and we had to record during all those years of lockdown, like building a pillow fort, building a mattress tent, all those sorts. 08:55Speaker 3 Of things, because they're in pants, they're not inside. 08:58Speaker 1 That's not why sometimes I can just not just men famous people can just really do the better of them going through that. I mean, Barry did look very relaxed. He's sitting cross legged on the floor. But this is one interesting thing where it's like watching the podcast does give you a bit more than just listening to show there's people in the background just making tea in the kitchen and all those things. They must have excellent microphones not to pick up that background noise. But watching Barry's kind of like he his shoulders really slump. He puts his head down. You can see that he's like having difficulties speaking about it. But he's obviously had this really pent up inside and it's something that like he hasn't spoken on since the breakup with him and Sabrina Carpenter happens. So in that interview he kind of confirms they did date for over a year. He doesn't get into any of the specifics of why they broke up or anything. Like that. But he is in the midst of filming the Beatles movies, which is a huge, huge role that like every actor in Hollywood was going out for those Beatles roles, and it's going to be just kind of like this huge movie moment. So he's been in big movies before, but he's about to be in like a blockbus essentially, and so I think he knows that, like, he's got huge rounds of press in the next couple of years coming, and he also just needs to be in the public eye for his job in general. So wonder this was a bit like trying to clear the conversation before he goes back into. 10:14Speaker 3 That, and the scale of the harassment is it's quite disgusting because he has grown up with a lot of adversity. He speaks a bit in this interview about how people, you know, dragging his late mother into things she was an addict, and then he also has his own struggles with addiction. So I think stooping to that level and having to be constantly faced with that kind of commentary would be really hard when you know you've got this massive press run coming up. 10:40Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly, And it was, Yeah, it was kind of interesting. When he and Sabrina broke up, because they were never like overly overly public about their relationship, but they were photographed together a lot, and they did like when she did her Vogue with Come like he's in the video clip as well, Well, he's in the video clip, yes, yes, But prior to that, like they did there, like they were never like posing the heaps couple photos. They were never like on each other's Instagram stories. She never said like, this is my boyfriend Barry. That's like the three year master yeah, celebrity exactly. But the first time they really confirmed their relationship in a very public way was when she was doing a get Ready with Me behind the scenes video with Vogue before the Met Gala, and he walked into the room so it looked like he had an joining room, and he walked in and they were like, you know, the little kiss and a little to get like very clearly, very coupply. And then they've been photographed together since then, but never in like a like that was their kind of big moment. And then when they read the video clip together that was obviously huge. Yeah, and just like kind of like a cute, floirty thing. But I think one of the reasons why their breakup was so so public, there's a few different reasons. One is that, like we had song lyrics to fall back on, and as anyone who's daily Taylor Swift or any musician knows, that's gonna get you every time. Because she was like, please don't embarrass me, and everyone's like, and he did, and that was like a battle cry that people got really ferocious about. 11:56Speaker 3 Yeah, I think as well. It's something so relatable for people, and that's why it's like easy to latch onto it because everyone probably has someone in their life from their past that they kind of share those feelings towards. So when it's music, you I mean, I'm the kind of person that listens to music. I'm like, this is about my life. 12:12Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I guess I'm just thinking that a good song, you're like, yeah, that just hits in the right place. 12:17Speaker 3 If you're in a bas you're like looking out the window. 12:19Speaker 1 There's some lyrics that are just universal, and they're usually about heartbreak. They're always about that. One thing I thought was super interesting is he was talking about and he never gets into like the depths of him and Sabrina. But like if anyone knows anything about their relationship. You can kind of read between the lines of when they broke up. There was a huge amount of allegations that he had cheated on her, and she never came out and said it. But sometimes like she would be on stage, like she was on stage in Ireland once and she was sort of joking about like not wanting to date Irish boys again, that they were kind of like a bit of a bad idea, just like really how she A lot of people probably share that thought, Yeah, and exactly, and she was, you know, she was catering to her audience and stuff, but she never said the words Barry cheated on me. But what did happen that he brought up in this interview that I thought was really interesting is he said that a video went out from a woman who said that he had cheated with her, and that did go everywhere. And what he said I thought was really interesting and something we bring up on this pot a lot is that he said she then released a attraction video saying that she was a lion. She made it up, but no one picked up on that, which is so the case when these stories kind of they break, they come out, they burn hot and bright and a lot of times when something like that or a rumor or a misunderstanding or something happens, there is another part of the story that comes later, whether it's a retraction, a clarification, someone saying they were lying, like the full interview being released. There's always a second part to the story. But the second part of the story never gets the same traction as the first. 13:41Speaker 3 So I guess theys a lot about how people consume things as well, Like even when you see a headline, you may actually not have ever read the full story, Like you just see the headline and then that's your truth that you move forward. 13:49Speaker 1 Yeah. 13:50Speaker 3 Yeah, I remember seeing the video that went up and like there was just not really any grounds to truth with it. But if you just get that kind of like headline out of it, it kind of like takes on this whole life of its own. It is just crazy, the flow on effect that it's hard on, like you forget he's a real person. 14:05Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. And that's why we say, like people do just read the headlines, and a lot of the time I'm just like, well, sometimes with like fame and money and everything like that is sort of just unfortunately, like the price you paid. But I thought it was really interesting where he was like, this woman came out and gave a retraction and no one, like, no one saw that, no one pitched. 14:21Speaker 3 He's so strong for one not fighting on that, well he did. 14:26Speaker 1 Yeah, And I mean, obviously I wonder if there's like how much a PR team is involved, or maybe it is also I don't know this man. Maybe this was his thought, like it was very like holier than thou, kind of a nice way to say it, because he was like, I don't know what this woman has gone through in her life, so I'm not that holy call her out. Well, yeah, I don't think yeah, to give her Barry Kaye the benefit of the doubt. That was really nice of him, if indeed that was his own thought, is like I'm not going to pull this woman through the mud and set the internet off on her because I don't know what she's been through, what's going on with her. It's sort of interesting because that's sort of this huge chain of reaction of people hating Barry. And before that he was really having a moment. He had been in an Oscar nominated movie and everyone was like, oh my god, he's a great actor and then after Saltburn, he was having such a fun cultural moment and everyone was like, oh, that tiny evil man, like so cheeky and fun, like everyone loved him, and so when he and Sabrina got together, everyone's like, oh, it's just we love that she's obsessed with like that little gremlin boy. It was really a moment on the internet too, like everyone boy is crazy, yeah, but in an endearing way, like everyone was upset in the way that only men can be, like you know, like rat Boy, fort of stuff and it's all endearing. 15:34Speaker 3 Your face was always coming up in the Rat Boy, yeah exactly. 15:37Speaker 1 So it was all that. And then stuff came out, yes, about his family and like drug abuse and all this sort of stuff, all these allegations, and he talked about it, but at the same time, like people were sort of using then his own words against him, and then people were also bringing out the fact that he was which again cernificants brought up for any other men in Hollywood. I don't know if all of a sudden we decided that Barry was going to take the flack for absent fathers everywhere? Is that? But also people were like, well, where is your son, Like he is because he has a son. People were like, you're off with Sabrina, You're not looking after your son, You're an absent father. I think at one stage he was talking about having to be away and working, but he was doing that for his son, and people were like, you're just making excuses, and all of a sudden, that like became this huge lynch pin. In a way, it's not for other men in Hollywood. Like, I'm not defending him for if he doesn't see his son, but I'm just like. 16:23Speaker 3 That's most in Hollywood. Yeah, Yeah, they're not at home raising their kids every day when they're filming movies months on end. 16:30Speaker 1 Yeah. I just think felt like it became just another thing to add to this kind of like it's very personal Eylon and like when we thought he was cute and sexy, no one cared about that. But when we thought he cheated on Sabrina carp and all of a sudden, everyone's like, you come from a drug addict family and you're a bad parent. Yeah, he was like where we were next. 16:47Speaker 3 It's a really low blow. And obviously in the industry, people are getting away with a lot more and not having you know, so many people cracked down on them. It's almost like it's easier to attack, attack on this. 17:00Speaker 1 Yeah, and again I think like a song lyric will really change the game, Like it became sort of like cute and fun to hate on Barry, and I think because it's also very easy, like there was no except for him personally, there was no stakes for anyone else Whereas I kind of looked at like the attacks on Barry, and I was like, where is this for like men in Hollywood who are like abusive towards women, or where is this for like men who have been accused and sometimes found guilty of like sexual assault or all these other things, or like physical assault, all these other things, Like they tend to sort of get more of it because sometimes that's a murky issue and interesting. 17:35Speaker 3 It's like if people don't have all the information on something that's higher stakes, then they weren't common on it at all. 17:41Speaker 1 Yeah. 17:42Speaker 3 But then if something's lower stakes and you don't even have any information at all, yeah, feel free to go wild. 17:48Speaker 1 Yeah exactly. That's I just found such an interesting and just like which parts of the internet pick up which topics, because sometimes like a man will be accused of sexual assault and not even not found guilty, but just sometimes there's not enough evidence to get to court, which is not the same thing, and everyone will be like, well, that's not ruin his life. But then everyone's like, wait, did Barry kiss someone else? Yeah, stone him to death, Like it's very because again that feels like there's less consequences for the audience. So yeah, I thought it was interesting, and I like the fact that he did come out and have that conversation and like kind of be a bit vulnerable in that way because he's really trying to gun towards this very famous act not famous, he's obviously famous, but more kind of serious actor kind of vibe, and a lot of times that comes with like not giving like being only out of DiCaprio and not giving an interview since a teen magazine like thirty years ago, and not kind of speaking on anything, only ever talking about your movies and your craft and never talking about yourself. It felt like he was kind of and like Paul mescal and other actors who are in his Jacob e. Lordie, like other actors who are in that young Hollywood about to be that next level of very famous man are all going that we don't speak in interviews. 18:53Speaker 3 Keeping it very personally. 18:54Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. 18:55Speaker 3 He lifted the veil a bit, and I think he's a really powerful story so it would be really nice if he's able to speak about it without people throwing stones in. 19:02Speaker 1 Yes, exactly what the little man. I mean. We get maybe he did, maybe he cheated horribly on her. 19:07Speaker 3 We don't know, and if that's the case, then. 19:11Speaker 1 Exactly. But we'll like the full interview in our show notes. Who will listen to the full thing because there's a lot more than that little moment. But yeah, interesting when the Beatles movies come. 19:19Speaker 3 Out, Yes, I'm so excited. 19:20Speaker 1 Yeah, I actually think that'll be a tony hoot for him. I think people will see him in the Beatles movies, they'll love the movie and they'll be fine. 19:26Speaker 3 Yeah. 19:28Speaker 1 So it's been a huge well it's been a huge month year, but also week this week for Anne Hathaway because The Devil West Prota two is finally I'm not gonna do it this movie. Huge week for us. We went to the premiere of The Devil Wears Pritor two this week. We can't say anything about it today, but that review many many thoughts on that are coming. So the Devil Wes Protor two is out starring Anne Hathaway. Of course, it's one of the many movies she has coming out this year, so Mother Mary, where she plays a pop star, The Devil Wes Protor two, obviously, The Odyssey, Christopher Nolan's new movie, which is going to be an absolutely huge blockbuster packed with Hollywood talent. She's in that Flower Veil Street, which is more of a sci fi mystery. This's got range. 20:07Speaker 3 Yeah, she's got range. 20:08Speaker 1 He's got range. And also Verity, which is coming out in October, which is a new thriller based on Colleen Hoover's best selling book of the same name. So the trailer came out this week. It was our first look at There's been so much hype around this particular adaptation of Colleen Hoover's novel, just because it's so beer loved and has such a twisted mystery, and also the casting, because we've got Dakota Johnson playing Low and Ashley who was hired by a man called Jeremy Crawford played by Josh Hartnett. I'm loving the Josh Hartnett come back in the way Why did he ever go away? I do love that man, and so she's hired by him to ghost write novels for his best selling author wife called Verity played by Anne Hathaway. Because she's an accident, she's unable to finish, and so Dakota Johnson's character moves into the Crawford's home to work on the book, only to discover that, of course, all is not as it seems, and there is a mystery with Verity. And the trailer is like really creepy and like atmospheric, and it also has a pretty lovely pash between Dakota Johnson and Hathaway. 21:09Speaker 3 Love that they put that in the trailer. 21:11Speaker 1 Yeah, they were like, we know exactly what you guys want to see, and here it is at the top of the trailer. 21:15Speaker 3 So I haven't read the book. It looks quite dark though, like a horror. 21:19Speaker 1 Yeah, Like it's like a kind of like a horror thriller, kind of like that old school like a Rebecca type kind of like you know, mystery of like what's happening in the home. 21:27Speaker 3 Kind of thing. It's interesting seeing what people are already saying in terms of like what they expected, Like some people like this is way scary than I thought it would be like people interpreted different in their heads. 21:36Speaker 1 So and it was one of those things where like when their casting was announced that it was Anne Hathaway Duco Johns and people that quite lost their minds of that because they were very kind of like territorial overut who would play these characters. So on paper, this should actually be the best year of Anne Hathaway's life professionally. 21:52Speaker 3 She's busy because of all. 21:53Speaker 1 These movies coming out, and there's this kind of just felt like when she was on The Devil Wears prior to press to her, there was this like inten hence love and admiration for her and so on paper, everything is perfect, but of course there's a bit of a different conversation bubbling around in the background. Do you remember, like it was nearly eight years nine years ago now that the Half a Hate started? Do you remember this dark time. 22:18Speaker 3 In our history this time? 22:19Speaker 1 Yeah, well, hopefully not on the internet because it was not a nice stay. 22:22Speaker 3 I don't think I was part of this movement because I wouldn't want to stand for that slander. Well no, exactly exactly. 22:27Speaker 1 So it was a dark time in history where Anne Hathaway had grown up as one of the most beloved actresses because we were introduced to her in The Princess Diaries, iconic Disney film Perfection Can Do No Wrong, and then obviously she had other movies like Ellen Enchanted, so you know, she really a lot of people really grew up with her as their actress, as the person that they would like. You know, people would be like, the first time I went to the movies was to see Ella Chanted, or like the first time, like my friends and I had to sleepover, we watched The Princess Diaries, like it was that kind of way. 22:55Speaker 3 She had a very like soft transition into womanhood as well from that, like Disney Girl. 23:00Speaker 1 And then when she got The Devil Wears Prata, which was it became a huge iconic movie and it was a big deal at the time, but not like it kind of became when the movie came out, and she has spoken very openly that she was about fifth on the list of actresses, so like they had to a lot of people had to say no to the role, and she had to go through like a lot of negotiations and auditions to get that role, and then that kind of was her big star making turn because that movie was sush a blockbuster. She's so great in it, and then she went on to like have all these other big movies that followed it. It was around the time of when she was starring in lay Miz that she won her first Oscar for it was her first Oscar nomination, was the first time she won. It was during the press one for that that people started to really turn against her. 23:44Speaker 3 Yeah, right, and all. 23:46Speaker 1 Of a sudden. I mean, the thing is, she was campaigning very hard for an Oscar, which is what you have to do to win. No one wins at a campaigning, even if you step aside and let your team campaign for you, you have to have a campaign. But she was front and center campaigning, and she run lot of awards leading up to the Oscar and lay Mis won a lot of awards, and people started to tire of her. They were like, she's a tryhard, she's annoying, she has theater kid energy. And one of the worst allegations against her was when Laye Miz won an award and as they were wrapping up, she jumped in on the end and thanked someone from her team, like personally, like thanked one of her managers. And there was this huge backlash, and it wasn't til years later that came out that person had been diagnosed with cancer and she just wanted to give them a shout but also even. 24:28Speaker 3 If they had it, like, let her give a shout out, Yeah, let her give a. 24:31Speaker 1 Shout out to someone in her teen And when she won the Oscar, that's also when the tables turned because she got up on stage and she and also people hated her dress. And that's neither he nor there. But the story was I didn't love it. No, okay, I just think he didn't photograph well. And but the backstory is it was, it was fine. It's a fun It's one of those engages that she is such a she's such a red carpet staple glam kind of and she'd had so many great dresses leading up to the Oscars that I just thought that wasn't the dress. It just photographs strangely because of the darts at the front. It made it look like her boobs were sticking out and the front, no, you do you know the dress't talking about? 25:08Speaker 3 No, it was a I think it. 25:10Speaker 1 Was Prada, which is ironic, and it was like straight down, pale pink column dress and it was just the way the darts were sitting. It made it look like she had breast, which I actually think is quite fun. And then it was it had a lot of detail at the back, but you couldn't see it. And so the story goes that they were rehearsing for le A mis because they were doing a music home in the Oscars, and Amanda Seifered, who was also in the movie, showed Anne hath the Way a picture of her dress that she was wearing to the Oscars the next day, and apparently Anne like lost her mind and I'm assuming just lost her mind and like, oh my god, shit, like because it was nearly identical to her dress, so different designers. Tina's just looking at a picture of the dress. 25:51Speaker 3 Now the dress is quite average. Yeah, I mean, but maybe the back, I don't know. If it was. 25:56Speaker 1 No destroying the woman's life for five years from put that it was okay. 26:02Speaker 3 Yeah. Also a lot of people. 26:04Speaker 1 Wear dresses to the Oscars because it's very serious things. A lot of times that people wear a bit more of a kind of and they want it to look timeless. 26:10Speaker 3 And and she looks beautiful, like if she was in the room she was wearing that phenomenal beautiful. 26:16Speaker 1 She looked beautiful, and I think it's fine. But what happened was, Yes, the story goes that Amanda seiphred and Anne has a way to confirm this happened, but she's never said it was Amanda, but we know, we know showed her photo and Anne was like, oh my god, that's nearly identical to my dress. And we're in the same movie and we're walking the carpet near each other and we're seeing next to each other, like, what am I going to do? So apparently she left and Amanda also left because they were both like, we can't deal with this right now. And so the night before the Oscar she had to find a new dress and that was the pink column dress, and again she won lovely moments. She's always wanted to win an Oscar. Sorry, that's fine, that's fun. That the people started hating her because she got up on stage and it was clearly a rehearsed moment, but she's an actress. What do you want from her? It was clear rehearse moment. She up and instead of speaking, she took a moment of silence. She looked down the Oscar and it's like and she just stared at and then she goes it came true, as in, like I wish for this and it came true. 27:10Speaker 3 Yeah, oh again, is that so fine? 27:13Speaker 1 You? Like she had her Yeah. I just think people were just like. 27:16Speaker 3 Winning an oscar. Just let them do what they want with that moment. Yeah, pretty one. Just let them have antense. 27:22Speaker 1 And I thought that her speech was lovely. It was really heartfelt. She was very overcome, as you would be. And and I feel I can speak like this now because can I say I've always been on the right side of history. I defended Anne Hathaway before it was cool. Yeah, and then she spoke about like sex work and like because her character obviously in the movie, she's like, let Fantine's story kind of be like a reminder to us about this, and like she'd obviously really thought like what is this moment about, what is this character about, and what is the bigger issue? So she did all that, and then people were just like, we're so sick of her, we can't stand her. She's a try hard and the hard thing is is that she kind of I think knew the tide was turning a little bit, but it was until she like a year or so later, when the internet had been hating her for a year or so and very blatant, and was that she sat down to google something about herself because I think it was she was going to do an SNL sketch and she wanted to find a headline about herself to kind of like she had an idea for a joke. She wanted to parry it, so she googled Anne Hathaway and she said all that came up like fill the screen was like ten reasons why we hate Anne Hathaway. Here's why everyone decides they've hated Anne Hathaway. Here's the worst thing about Anne Hathaway. And she was like, oh, sorry, my god, Like yeah, she said. It was really kind of confronting to her to realize how fast spread the hate was. And then she ended up having to do like a magazine cover where she's kissing on it. I think it was Elle where she's kissing and she's like, let's kiss and make up. And I was like, girl, you have nothing to apologize. 28:44Speaker 3 No, no, and hath a ways to apologize. 28:46Speaker 1 Yeah, It's weird that, like again, we see all these men like do and I know that's like kind of a tied take that men and women get treated differently, But it's it's unfortunately very true. Is that we see like men get accused of like they screamed at this one on set, like Adam Driver threw a charity and a donner. 29:02Speaker 3 Literally, why are we not talking about that anymore? 29:04Speaker 1 Well, yes, it was part of their like rehearsal, and she's not angry at him. But also, like you know, and we have all these things of like you know, men cheating or men doing things, or even other actresses sometimes doing worse things. And the worst thing in Hathaway did was just love her to work too much. 29:18Speaker 3 She's just going to work. I've got Jacob Elodie in a million movies right now where like keep going exactly. 29:23Speaker 1 And I also and yes, there are allegations that she was rude and difficult, but we don't have any like there's no proof of that that I can also. 29:32Speaker 3 Rude or difficult or just at work being professional and asking for what. 29:36Speaker 1 She Also, no one's that I can see, No one's gone on the record to say that she was difficult to work with. In fact, it came up in a press conference once. I think it was for Interstellar. I came up on a press conference where a journalist is like, what is it like to be No One as someone who's really difficult to work with it? And it's like oh, and then Jessica Chustin jumps in and she's like, I just want to speak on this that I've worked with this woman twice now and she's not difficult to work with. But it's like saying like that part of the story of never took off, Like No One sort of was like, oh, Jessica Chustin defends Anne Hathaway. They were just like she's. 30:07Speaker 3 There these speculations of her just being lovely to. 30:10Speaker 1 Work Yeah, And there is that interview that went you know, that moment in time where like all the Blake Lively interviews were coming out around like oh, she's awful at interviews, and you watched a super cut of interviews. And it really depends how people edit things a lot of the times and the context around them. But an old interview came up with Anne hathawayen a journalist. It was four laid miss and the journalists keep saying to her it was the same journalist that Blake Lively was accused of being you know, the whole baby interesting and then they were like, oh, look like Blake Lively is getting crucified for being rude to this journalist, which she kind of was that's fair enough. And they were like, look when this like Anne Hathaway was also rude to this journalist. And this clip went viral and it was the journalist saying to Anne Hathaway like, can we can we sing our responses to each other? And apparently other people in lay Miss did it and Anne was like, oh, you can do that. I'm not going to do it. 31:00Speaker 3 That's what I would say. Yeah, yeah, I don't want to sing no. 31:04Speaker 1 And I actually think that's so fine, Like it's it's a hard line of like you're in an interview, sometimes you have to go with the bits. But I also think saying to something like maybe going into an interview and saying to someone, especially if like it's not a pre approved kind of thing, like going into a junkert where it's like every five minutes you're talking to a new journalist and a journalist coming in and saying like can we sing our interview and her being like no, thank you, And it's fair. 31:26Speaker 3 Enough because then it could go in the wrong way, and then that will be the story that spirals out of control, Like you've got to be like thinking a couple of steps ahead on Yeah, what's the output of this got to look like? And a people gonna hate on before it? 31:39Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly, And it's so interesting obviously, things like I haven't seen like the full full clip of that in terms of like it wasn't released, Like I haven't seen what happened before the cameras started rolling the cameras afterwards, So I don't know if she was rude or not, but no one cared about that was that isolated clip. And she ended up apologizing to the journalist. Yeah, and because I think she was like, oh god, this is gonna you know, I think. 31:58Speaker 3 The journalist would know as you as well, though, like this could be yes, this could be an I'm gonna shoot my shot. 32:03Speaker 1 I just think it was a moment in time. And then everyone's so back on the inn Hathaway train, as they should be, Like mymorphus loves being held to account for bad behavior. But I just don't know if there's any. 32:14Speaker 3 Bad blockbuster movies that I've seen from her. 32:18Speaker 1 There's nothing that I've seen from her that justifies the level of hatred, except that she just seems to try really hard and she's really earnest and she's a theater kid energy. 32:26Speaker 3 Which I love. 32:27Speaker 1 But I will say, like, having interviewed her myself personally, now. 32:30Speaker 3 She has her friends lovely. 32:33Speaker 1 She was really lovely, and yes, she was very kind of and I've seen her be like this in other interviews. I think because my questions were a bit more serious, which was fine because that's why I wanted. But she gave me really thoughtful answers and I really appreciated that. But I walked in the room to interview her and Meryl for Devil Words prior to too, and there was a bit of a change with the time, and I kind of got when I went in the room, I wasn't sure. I thought I was going into you know how like can go into a junk and you think it's gonna be like a holding area first, and then someone and often there's like a screen and there's all this and the PR person walks around introduces you, and then they take you in and then you're like, oh, okay, like now we're starting. Whereas I open the door and it's just Maryland's oh, right in front of me away, and they were just like oh hell. And I was the first one, so they were just like oh. They were still like settling down, putting their waters down, like Merret was drinking her water because they'd been doing a full day of press. And I was like, oh, hello, and then I didn't even introduce myself because I was like, oh, I'm yeah, and I'm like to the camera and I talked to the camera person instead of them because I said are you filming now? Because I don't want to miss my interviews? And Anne was like like really rolling yeah, you know, it's like high stakes in that room. And Anne was like, oh, sorry, what is your name? And I was like, oh, I'm sorry, it's Laura, and she is all lovely to meet you, Laura. I'm Anne, and this is Meryl. That's really I do know, but like nice to like she was sort of making sure that we had that moment of like seeing each other's names and saying hello. And then I found her really thoughtful and I just watched her because I saw her during that press day. I saw her like do a whole bunch of interviews in the morning and then do all the junk kids and then go and do a fan event that night, and I could feel that she was really like not being cautious, but really trying to make sure that she gave really thoughtful answers and that she was acknowledging people, and that she was giving people what they expected of having their moment with Anne Hathaway in a really intense way of someone who knows what it's like when that goes the wrong way. So I really appreciate it that that's lovely, and I just think it's kind of like now that I'm seeing like even like, so we put up all our Devil Wears prid of clips from the interview that was on the spill, and most of the comments are like lovely and really supportive. But I have this one clip that's got a lot of traction online where I asked her and Meryl, like, because they can't watch The Devil Wes Prita as their favorite comfort movie, what is their like what is their version of The Devil Wears Prata? And Anne gave some really lovely answers. One of them was Moonstruck that she says she watches in bed and with ice cream, which I did over the weekend I haven't seen Moonstruck for ages, but I watched it and I got some ice cream and I was like this, girls on stop like man' the same Shelle. There's also a bunch There was also like a bunch of comments under a TikTok video of people like, look how Ovalish's polite she's been to that interviewer. Look how careful she's been. And then other people were like, oh, yeah, it's because she's like got in trouble before. And everyone's like, oh, I'm getting so sick of her. 35:14Speaker 3 And I was like, guys, none of these are bad things, so she's being too careful. 35:19Speaker 1 Yeah, And I can just see that the tide is not turning against her. But I can just see because she has to be so public this year because she's mailed these movies and just the way the release schedule has fallen, they're all coming out in one go. 35:31Speaker 3 Yeah, even when people like you're so busy this year, like these have been filmed probably over the past like five. 35:36Speaker 1 Years, And I just yeah, And I just find it really interesting that we're even having this conversation in twenty twenty six about like whether or not the table should turn on and Hathaway because she hasn't done anything to deserve that, and it's just justice. 35:49Speaker 3 For Anne Yeas twenty twenty six. 35:52Speaker 1 And it's just it's interesting. As much as we keep having this conversation, it's still like the worst thing that a woman can do in Hollywood is be like two in your face and two in your in terms of like be everywhere and having to promote a movie successful also walking that fine line between like having to be like a little bit self deprecating but also like sometimes very earnest, and it's like everyone's watching you walk this tight rope of like and if you put a foot too far the other way then you have to go. And other actresses have said before, like it's anything happened to Jennifer Lawrence, Like do you remember that when she was everywhere and she won her oscar? It's always when a women wins an. 36:26Speaker 3 Oscar, whenever they're successful, people just want to like really narrow and on things. And I think that's what makes it hard again, just going back to the fact that Anna's just working, she's doing good jobs, she's booking great roles. Why would she turn them down? Yeah, She's got her biggest year ahead of her. There is absolutely no reason to hate someone based on those things. 36:45Speaker 1 No, No, and that thing is like when you ask people because people have just because I've written a lot about this in the past, Like I wrote a big piece about the haf of hate when it first was starting and being like, we need to stop this because all the reasons why, And that piece still bops up on search a lot. Whenever she's in a movie of people like Big Year for You, then yeah, guys read yeah, like I read that piece like eight years ago and every word is still correct of what people have said. But yeah, and whenever like she's in a movie or like when I've interviewed her, like the first people say like, oh, what was she really like? And I was like, she was lovely in a way that you've No one's ever asked me in that tone about any other actress I've interviewed. I've interviewed some mean actresses, to let me tell you, and no one cares about that. But yeah, I just think it's interesting of like how like women come to this moment in Hollywood, like a Jennifer Lawrence, like an nn Hathaway where they searched to popularity and then we decide that they've had too much time in the sun, or they're too quirky, or they're too earnest, and then they have to go and like hide away, I don't want and then they decide to come back again. 37:49Speaker 3 Yeah, they've got it. They've got to buy their time. 37:51Speaker 1 Yeah, so go see Devils prior to go see all of Ann Hathaway's movies. I guess, and I just hope this conversation Petere's out now. 38:00Speaker 3 Thanks so much for listening to the Spill today, And if you want to watch as well as listen, you can now watch us on Apple Podcasts. Just make sure that your iPhone is up to date and switch over to video to see our beautiful faces, or head to the YouTube channel to catch more of our video content, including celeb interviews. 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The Princess Diaries 2: Royal Engagement or How to Land a Lord in 30 Days

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Play Episode Listen Later Apr 27, 2026 114:11


One sequel to rule them all, little onions. This week, we're unpacking one of Ross's cherished faves, The Princess Diaries 2: Royal Engagement. In a welcomed change of pace from last episode's Spy Kids debacle, the siblings are falling in love all over again with Gary Marshall's adorable expansion on Meg Cabot's characters. There's laughter, there's intrigue, there's Chris Pine. Ross geeks out on the level of detail given to Genovian culture in the film. Carie unironically weeps more than once somehow. And the siblings once again embroil themselves in a film theory that the queen, her bodyguard, and her secretary are in a love triangle.  SUPPORT US ON PATREON!

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The Problematic Movie Make-Overs We Secretly Love

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Play Episode Listen Later Apr 27, 2026 51:31 Transcription Available


With The Devil Wears Prada back on the big screen, we've been completely fixated on Andy's transformation from “frumpy” assistant to head-to-toe haute couture. It has sent us straight down a rabbit hole of the greatest makeover sequences cinema has ever given us.Because here's the thing. Yes, they're a little problematic, unhinged in their logic, and we are not even slightly sorry about how much we love them.We're breaking down the most monumental movie makeovers, why they've aged the way they have, and why we completely lose our minds every time the dramatic music plays and the transformation is revealed. Speaking of iconic makeover scenes, listen to our Brutally Honest Review of Clueless here. 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Welcome to this spill your daily pop culture fixed. I'm Laura Brodneck and I'm Tita Previs, and we have a very special episode for you today, one that I have been dying to do for so long because this is a special interest area of mind. So I'm so glad you're here for my moment that I got to share with you. We are doing the best movie makeover scenes that yes, might be seen as problematic, but we desperately love them. I love them. What do you think they're problematic? Well? I think well, I'm just gonna take my feminist hat off and put it in the corner. I'm gonna actually put it outside the studio, pick it up later on the way out, because I guess these like these movie makeover montages that have become such a big part of in particular romantic comedies. One is obviously we're both going to share our favorite ones. We don't know what the other person's going to say, but I'm assuming you don't have any men on your list, because I don't have any men on my lise. 00:53Speaker 2 You do, I do, But how rare is that it's rare, And that's why exactly exactly exactly. 01:00Speaker 1 So all the makeover scenes in movies, especially wrong cooms, always happen to women, and they always famously go one way. More men should be having makeups. Yeah, let's make it see men, I know. But if you rubits have tried to do that, has it really landed? I just mad it every day? Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, absolutely real mount the Street, let's make them over. I think it's a famous shell queer right. Well, these makeovers always go one way, so that's I think that's where the kind of problematic issue has come over the years is that the woman always comes out, she's always like tenned, she always has like a ton of makeup on, she gets her glasses taken off, even if see without them, always wearing like skimpier clothing. Like it's a very like kind of like sexualized bombshell kind of look that every woman gets made over to in these movies in order to kind of achieve the life that she wants. So if you look at it through that lens, slightly problematic. But we're not doing that today because movie makeover scenes have made up the broke of pop culture for so long, and there's so many movies that are made around these scenes or these ideas, and they were always the scenes that we used in marketing so famously in Suddenly thirty they had like done the script and shot half the movie, and the studio was like looking at the dailies and looking at the script and they're like, you have to put a makeover montage in here for the trailer. Otherwise formula is otherwise we can't sell this movie. What the hell are you doing. So the reason we're doing this today, I do have a reason for this before we get into our picks, is that it is The Devil Wears prior to two week. Yeah, the movie is actually coming out this week on the thirtieth of April, and the first movie has an incredible makeover moment which Andy goes into the fashion closet with nigelnic He pulls a poncho for which we never wear it see her wear. And then that is such a catalyst for the film because it's how we see her lean into her career and how she gets taken seriously, and that we have that incredible montage of all the different looks that she wears down the streets, different coats and hats into the office. You have a favorite one. 03:01Speaker 3 From that montage, all of the looks are always so good, and I think because you do have that contrast for like her own style at the start to all of those looks, like you can't just pick one, and then from there on out it just gets like better and better. 03:15Speaker 1 The fun better and better and better. 03:16Speaker 3 Yeah. 03:16Speaker 1 From that makeover montage we first see her like the green coat means the winner, but also the brown snakeskin coat when she walks into the building, which is how I want to be dressing this season. So off the back of the Devil Wears prior to two cinemas April thirty, we're gonna be sharing with each other our favorite movie makeover moments. Do you want to kick us off? So we haven't shared yet. I don't know what you're gonna say. It's going to be surprise. I'm interesting how a man weaseled his way in there, so like a man. It's like, we have one thing and it's been overly sexualized and made over in movies and then men want to take it away from us. 03:47Speaker 3 So I'm staying on the Anne Hathaway train. 03:49Speaker 2 Oh yeah, and I'm going with Princess Darry It wouldn't be Yes Complete the Makeover Podcast EP if we didn't have this one in there, I feel like it. It's so iconic unless you're living under a rock. Everybody has seen Princess Staris. It's one of my favorite movies growing up. And we follow Mia Thermopolis played by Anne Hathaway, and she finds out that she's actually a princess, which is what I thought was gonna happen to me. I'm still waiting for a letter behind estranged relative in her country. And she pretty much undergoes this whole transformation on her path to becoming a princess, and they enlist a stylists. 04:27Speaker 1 She pretty much just. 04:28Speaker 2 Takes her glasses off, straightens her hair and like has her nails done. 04:32Speaker 1 Like there's really not much more to it. Oh see. I actually think out of all the movie makeover is this one they actually go through quite a drug etiquette, has the etiquette training and that whole thing. But also I think they actually do quite change, Like she looks drastically different. Some makeover segne like you just took off her glasses and put a lipstick on, whereas this one it's like completely like her hair because I think she's got like a crazy wig on when she is playing Mia in the early movies. The glass has always changed things, but the makeup is so intense, the skin sort of stuff. 05:00Speaker 2 How she they pluck her eyebrows, They're like really like whacking those off. But again on the slightly problematic end, because it did really like reinforce you know, curly like frizzy hair being like a little bit messy and untamed, and like, I deep dove into Reddit and there are so many people on the Internet who you know, said how much it really affected them and it led them to like chronically straighten their hair for like ten years. 05:25Speaker 1 Okay, I didn't know there was like the dark side of the Princess Diaries. 05:28Speaker 3 We have Minisha producer Nisha in the studio. 05:31Speaker 2 Who was saying that this had a little bit of an impact on her and her. 05:34Speaker 1 And she never curled her hair again. Wow, No, she has curly hair. She straightens it. No, No, I know, is that right? 05:42Speaker 3 She's nodding, She's she's no. 05:44Speaker 1 I didn't realize that your hair looked like that. Because of the wrath of Anne Hathaway. Wow and Hathaways actually come out recently. Anne Hathaway's commented on Yeah public apology. 05:56Speaker 2 She recently spoke to people off the back of the recent press she's been dewey and shared her one regret from her time on the film. So her natural hair is actually straight, so they had to create that contrast for that makeover scene, that moment, so they gave me a really curly hair. And you know, she has regrets around people thinking that they were saying curly hair is unattractive, which is obviously terrible, and like she says, it was an unintended side effect. It was just in order to make it easier and post and you know, have that massive transformation moment. But it's so significant that it's actually something. Now in twenty twenty six, she's had to come out and dress. 06:32Speaker 1 Oh and no, And can I just say, you don't need to apologize. Do you have curly hair? You'r okay, no, we don't get it. I would love curly hair because I cut my hair all the time because I have dead straight, flat hair. Yeah, And I always feel like I'm the same the unattractive thing. And I would love to have people like especially like in rom com there's some wrong comms, like in How Lose a Guy? In Ten Days, where Kate Hudson's character Andy famously has straight hair, yes, but as she falls in love, her hair goes curly. Have you sadnything online of like girls in love have curly hair? 06:58Speaker 2 Yeah? 06:58Speaker 1 I have, yeah, And I was like, obviously I've been in love because my hair is straight, straight, So you can literally find anything. I'm just gonna say, Anne Hathaway, you don't apologize for that. It's okay. We don't speak on behalf of the curly girls. We well, no, no, I think that that's the fault of the movie, not Anne Hathaway. Yes, yes, And I also think that out of all the things that we have to sort of look at, that that one's okay. I'm not disregarding the feelings of curly head girls. I just don't think Anne Hathaway personally should take on that emotional birth. 07:24Speaker 3 No, it's not for her. She can we forgive you, Anne, it's not you. 07:27Speaker 1 We don't have to five. But that is such a pivotal moment, that scene, because everything about that movie plays and to wish fulfillment, and that is like also the biggest wish for filment as an adult but also as a teenager. That you're just kind of one step away from looking beautiful, that someone could take you in a room and they could do all these things. And also then her life does open up in this crazy way. Yes, because she's become a princess, but also because she looks like this ideal beauty, she becomes popular. Yeah, everybody likes her. The guy shet to like her, and are they're really careful to caveat that he always liked her. 08:00Speaker 2 Yeah, and it wasn't the makeover. Yeah, I was actually really don't do that as much watching it last night. And she just ignores him for like the whole first part of the movie. 08:09Speaker 3 He literally is like, you're attractive, and she just doesn't even like. 08:12Speaker 1 Well, that's the whole thing of these movies, too, is that they pedal this thing that everyone's secretly beautiful they just don't know it. And for a lot of us, and they put me in that category. No, fine, that's fine, there's no there's no little trick of like, if she just took her glasses off, or if she just took her hair out, she would be so beautiful and she just doesn't know it. 08:30Speaker 3 Yeah, I don't wear glasses. What's the next straight. 08:33Speaker 1 I wear my hair on every day. There's no way a man can take out my ponytail, and I'll instantly be beautiful. What is left? So good? Okay, before we move on to my next one. Are you excited for Princess Diaries three? Or you're upset about it? People different came. I'm excited because Princess Diary is too wildly a great movie. All the sequels out there, I think they're both great. 08:52Speaker 2 I think Anne is great, and if she wants to be involved in it, I know she'll want to do it right. 08:57Speaker 1 So super excited. 08:58Speaker 2 It's such a part of my child would I watched that movie rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat. 09:03Speaker 1 It was one of those ones I was always. 09:04Speaker 2 Watching, even the nos Soldier, like, even if it's not better than one and two, I'm here for it. 09:12Speaker 1 Okay, So the movie Makeover I'm going to talk about now. I picked because it has my favorite reveal like When You Had. It has everything it has, like the big reveal, the reaction, the build up, the song, the song choice and maker. I realize every nearly every makeover Picked has an iconic song that sort of had new life in it because of the movie moment and this is an iconic comedy from the year two thousand, a great year for m comms. Miss Congeniality. Oh oh my god. 09:42Speaker 3 I can't what but like I would have been really really young. 09:46Speaker 1 Okay, you need to watch this is just movies. I just assumed everyone has seen I didn't. I didn't see it. I was like in not pro I was probably in high school. I did even know. Anyway, I didn't see the movies, but I just remember what. It's one of those ones where I just remember, like I know of it. I mean, we're probably had on a VHS and I just watched it over and over and over again. Oh my god. It holds up so well. I mean, no, it's problematic as hell, but that's fine. That's fine. But our feminist is outside. Actually yeah, it's actually out the window. I've thrown it. No, no, it's not problematic, and like, there's actually nothing so super bad in it. They'll just be little things. But anyway, as a movie, ten out of ten holds it so well. You need to watch it. You'll love it. Don't watch the sequel. Okay, the sequel's frodden. Sandra Bullock went through Who is the lead of this movie, Sandra Brook went through a time where she made two really regrettable sequels, Speed Too. I don't watch that. I never watch I've loved Speed Speed. Yeah. The second one, she's on a boat, and even she was like, that was a mistake because the boat. They're like, the boat's going so fast because the boat can go anywhere, because it's a cruise ship. It can't go the world. Yeah, it's fine. And Miss Congenality Too not great, but Miss Congeniality a perfect movie. So Sandra Bullet plays an FBI agent called Graasy Heart, and she's like really schlubby and gross, like yeah, that's the perfect kind of word for her. She wears like an ill fitting, like cheap suit which is always like crinkled, food stained. She's got really frizzed. They really frizzed her hair hair same thing. She's just hair like and she looks terrible. And so there's been a threat against the Miss USA pageant. So a lot of it set in a beauty pageant, and they need someone to go undercover in the pageant as a beauty queen to like stop the threat. And they go. They have this computer program that they go through all the women the FBI, and it renders them what they would look like, which is a bit weird down to think of what they would look like like, what their bodies would look like. And Sandra looks gracy heart is the only one when they like, they think she's like, they think she's ugly, even though it makes a deep fake of them. And I was like, wow, that technology came true twenty years later and we used it for evil. Yeah, and then because not all the boys and Benjamin Bratt plays like one of the FBI agents, true who's like the hot sexy guy friends. It's a real Benjamin Bratt moment in the early two thousands. You might not know because you're a child, but he was like the romantic lead in so many movies and Julia Roberts was madly in love with him and they were getting married and it was a whole thing. So that, yes, this is peak Benjamin Bratt era. That moment passed, We're still in peak Sandra Bullock era, so that moment is still here. So she is the only one that can go under cover, but they're just like, look at her. She's so ugly and she's a mess. And she is also she's like an ultimate tomboy and she doesn't want to do it. So that's the difference too, is that in this movie she is so against she's scene, whereas a lot of other movies women are like, yes, please give me a makeover, which is also fine. So they bring in Michael Caine. Michael Caine one of it. Do you know who my yes is? Okay, you literally shocked, but I'm just thinking of him giving a makeover. Yeah, no, I know, that's why and one of the most like he's such an esteemed serious yea, but he And the thing is this cast. It's like Benjamin Bratt, Sandra Bullock, Candice Bergen, Michael Caine, William Shatner, like all of these incredible actors in this movie. And this is why romcoms works so well then, because this was a huge studio release with all these like Oscar factors, Like we was just a throw away. It wasn't like a throwaway watches on a Friday night in Netflix and forget about it. They like approached this like it was Shakespeare, like these people exactly. They approached it like it was Shakespeare. And that is the way to make a romantic comedy. Anyway. So Gracie Heart then has to they have to bring in Michael Kaine's character, who is like a deportment expert like etiquette, also trains people for the pageants. He's also like a pageant cope, and he is revolted by Gracie Heart when he meets her, absolutely revolted. And the fun thing about it is like nobody just so like he's just literally like this, what is like a cow. She's disgusting, And Sandra Bullock is so good like her physical comedy. Like the first scene is they're meeting together having lunch in a restaurant and he is just looking at her with this intense disgust on his face in a way that only Michael Caine can and she's like ripping into this food and all swapping down her face like with her frizzy with her frizzy hair, the ultimate cry. And Sandra Bullock said that she really leant into really wanting to make Gracy like as unattractive as she could so that the makeover scene paid off. So she was really behind the scenes pushing like no, let's have food in her teeth when like when we first meet her, like let's have like her clothes be kind of really disheveled, like she she walks around really hunched over. And Sandra Bilok also said that it was so funny because it only took like less than an hour in the makeup chair to make her look like Gracy pre makeover, but then she had to spend like three or four hours in the makeup chair for Gracie afterwards, just to even in the scenes where she's just walking around just to look like a normal woman. Yeah, and I was like, I love that. Even Sandra Bulok is like, it takes four hours to make me look like a natural Sandra Bok. So the stakes of this maker is so high because the FBI is involved. They're like, how do we make this ugly woman beautiful? So they get this like literal warehouse, like a huge warehouse, and it's full of like the tanners, the waxes, the beauty maker everywhere is this place. I know, I want to grab me out. Well, this is like that, Like it's so funny because it's like this is what it takes a woman look beautiful. It's like we have the whole FBI army making literally taking over what looks like an army base. That's so fair, like this huge bunker and they go in there and they have to like wax her and tan her and all this stuff, and she's hating and you never see it. And then you see Benjamin Bratt and his like crew on the outside with the plane like waiting to fly her to the pageant to like get her in, like where is she? Where is she? And all of a sudden, the big bunker door like slides open and Mustang Sally starts playing I Got It and it's just the best. It's one of the best movie music moments in history. And it's a cover of Mustang Sally. So they did a cover of it, and Sandra Bullock played the tambourine, I think because she's like just want to be involved, yeah, just wants to be part of it. So and there's a slow motions shot and then Sandra Bullock as Gracie Hart walks out. You have to, I mean, don't watch this until you watch the movie because a bigger moment. Again, it's so sexist but so good. I love it so much. And the camera pans up super slowly over her body and she all of a sudden, she's tan, she's shiny, she's wearing a purple mini dress. Love her hair of course straight, it's straight straight, it's straight straight as an ironing board, like literally not a hair out of place, and her hair's all glowy. And Benjamin Brat, like his character, I'm just using his knee because that's how people are. It just rips his sunglasses off in and his jaw drops open and everyone around him is like, oh my god. And she's strutting and then she just falls straight over. And before that she has an iconic line about like I haven't done this, I haven't eaten doped mess with me, and then she just topples over because she can't walk in heels. She's so real for that. Yeah, and it's just such a huge moment. And obviously, like later on when her and Benjamin Brad's characters fall in love, it's very much they fall in love because like their personalities, but it's also because she's super hot now. 16:51Speaker 3 Yes, because she had the purple dress, and then she has to. 16:53Speaker 1 Go through the Miss America pageant, right, which is again it's so the comedy is just so. 17:00Speaker 3 She's great, like it's funny. 17:03Speaker 1 I think that's the role she should have won. An Oscar for I know they don't like to give oscars to comedy actresses, but there's so many good one liners that she delivers, and her physical comedy is so good. Oh my god, you're gonna love it. Okay, you're gonna love it. I've watch it. I can't believe I was sole jealous of you. They get your torch it for the first time. 17:18Speaker 2 I think I've watched a lot of things, but when I'm under the age of ten, like. 17:23Speaker 1 I just feel like that's a movie that gets referenced all the time, that's still in the conversation. So I would sort of believe that more for movies that fall out of the conversation, but that's still at anyway, you get to watch it, so please and report back on your next on the next time you're on the pod. But yeah, that to me, that stands out as the biggest reveal of a make over and the biggest and also the fact that a lot of other makeover scenes are just like, I don't know, we can get one stylist in someone's bedroom and we're just like, but this is like, no, no, this is an industrial fispiration to make a normal woman look like the ideal of a woman. And you know what, I love it so much, this congeniality. If anyone else has watched it? All right? 18:01Speaker 3 Next on my list another movie that I rinsed to death. 18:04Speaker 2 I used to sit in front of my TV with the lyrics book because it is spoiler a musical. 18:09Speaker 1 Okay it's grace, Oh okay, yes, I love my god. Watching this as a kid, all I wanted to do was be a sexy Sandy And I'm so far from all of that. But all I wanted to do was wear leather pants and strut around. Yeah, which would I worked for me? 18:24Speaker 2 Carnival, Yeah, they're all like thirty years old as well, exactly, so many like I don't know about you, but I again, watch that movie as a kid, over and over again, all of the references straight over my head. 18:36Speaker 1 Didn't realize what a hickey from Kinnicky was now, didn't realize about the whole like having sex in the back of the cars, didn't realize that a pregnancy scarab was what she was worried about. Literally, no idea, just like the songs really exactly. And you know what, like kids watch sexy movies. 18:51Speaker 2 So my dad loves Grease yeah, so that's how I was like introduced to me. 18:54Speaker 3 So we always watch it when I was younger. 18:56Speaker 2 But I think it has one of the most iconic transformation make overs but also a little bit controversial. So obviously we follow the lives of Danny played by John Travolta, and then we have the lovely Olivia Newton John as Sandy, who's like this very clean cut, cutesy good girl, and Danny's this bad boy, like grease up completely opposite. 19:18Speaker 1 World ultimate like Romeo and Juliet story, like they come from different worlds. How could they ever be together? Could they ever? 19:25Speaker 3 We'll tell you how. 19:27Speaker 2 All it takes is a pair of leather pants and a red lip, according to sandrew D. So she walks out in the final like scene sequence, they've you know, had a little bit of push and pull this whole time. 19:38Speaker 1 So they both go to. 19:39Speaker 2 These I don't want to say extreme lengths because all Danny does to change himself for Sandy's put on like a little lettermon jacket, like a little nit jacket. That's all he does, which I feel shows the extent of effort that like men are going to change for us. 19:51Speaker 1 Yes, that's so true. There's such a good lesson in Greece that modern women. 19:55Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then obviously Sandy shows up in these insane leather pants. It's beautiful, like off the shoulder, black top, red lip, she's got this bold like curly hair, actually doing it for. 20:07Speaker 1 The color girl God. So actually it's a so debunked. We have been raised our whole lives to think that Grease is actually anti feminist, because it's feminist. The initial kind of message that we took away from the movie was this movie is telling us you have to change yourself for a man, and that's bad. But actually, what we've uncovered today is that it's actually a feminist plot because she's saying curly hair can actually curly hair is. But while curly, did you ever have Like I used to be obsessed with grease And then I got my mum to get me these like old school not even get me. I think they were my moms from like when she was a kid, these like old school hot rollers, And I would hot roll to look like Sandy, and I thought it looked so chic when I was like eleven, and looking back now, I did look like a poodle. Yeah, that was me. With the red lip. Yes, it never worked really for me. 20:50Speaker 2 It's giving dancers steadfast, but I gave it, gave it a go. 20:54Speaker 1 I still do it red lip. I still do black leather and a red but you rock a red lip. I'm just I'm just sandy on the Yes, we. 21:00Speaker 2 All have a little bit of sty but yeah, I think it definitely is a little bit of. 21:03Speaker 1 A feminist like move. 21:04Speaker 2 A lot of people can say, you know, she's changing for Danny, but I think what we see is, you know, she's like leaning into her confidence and like it's like a bold yea. 21:12Speaker 1 Well, because you can take it either way, you can take it. You're right that she's becoming who she wants to be. But that's the thing feminists like, these makeover scenes are always wrapped up and like, no, she's empowering herself, and it's like no, no, no, she's dressing for the male gaze and that's fine. 21:27Speaker 3 Who she chose to do it, but only. 21:30Speaker 1 Because she felt desperate that he would leave her. But again, who amongst us hasn't dressed for the male kase? Exactly? 21:35Speaker 2 Guilty, It's a time and a place exactly. 21:41Speaker 1 Right, is exactly. But again, I just can't hold that in my head. When I watch gree it's like I'm aware that it's there. I'm aware of this idea and it's a different time, and it's got the best like mic drop moment of like like literally like the whole carnival turns to her and then she has that iconic clim when she has tell me about it. Stud. So also she's smoking. 22:02Speaker 3 She doesn't know how to smoke. 22:03Speaker 1 But she's doing it. I'm looking friends, how do I put it? That's just a good moment. Oh my god, Olivia Neton John is so good. So again, it's sexualizing dressing from man, it's sexualizing like like smoking and like that bad girl. But I don't even care because you know what, smoking does look sexy on screen? It does. Don't do it, don't do it. 22:20Speaker 3 But sometimes it looks chic on the screen. 22:22Speaker 1 Yeah, it always always looks cheek on screen. 22:25Speaker 2 Now, they do have this like fairy tale ending they get into a convertible when they fly off into the sky. 22:29Speaker 3 But there are actually a lot of fan theories. 22:32Speaker 1 Are you gonna say that they're dead? 22:36Speaker 2 So basically there are theories that when they fly off into the sky that they actually passed away and that Sandy actually died from the very first scene where they're first on the beach, because Danny when he's singing someer love and there's a line where he said, you know, she almost drowned. 22:54Speaker 1 I saved her. 22:55Speaker 2 So it turns out, according to this theory, that she in fact drowned, and then we enter this like homo fantasy for the entirety of the whole film, and that's how they're flying off in the end. 23:09Speaker 1 I have heard that theory that this is all Sandy's, Like, this all happened in the moment she died, and this is what living through like living through those moments is that she fantasized going to school with Danny and then falling in love and stuff. But it's very intense and also like none of the screenwriters have said that's true. But I love I love when like a theory for like a really old school movie like this just takes it takes. 23:29Speaker 3 Over a life of its own, like people run rampant with it. 23:33Speaker 2 I hate to disappoint anyone that thinks they're dead, but the creator has since come out and said. 23:38Speaker 1 That that's absolutely it's not the case. They're not dead. 23:41Speaker 2 Also, there's so many like fantasy moments in the film I just love to grab on exactly. 23:46Speaker 1 Well, I guess I just want to explain why the calf flies at the end. It's not even a good theory though, the calf flies at the end because it's a movie and things happen in movie music and that's fine. But no, that's a great make over scene. Love that, And it does go to show that if you're having problems relationship, if you put on a pair of black leather pants, they will go away. 24:03Speaker 2 Oh and apparently they had to show them onto her body so tight. 24:06Speaker 3 It's so tight their vintage Yeah, oh love. 24:09Speaker 1 Okay, the next one I'm going to bring up is the most realistic movie makeover I have ever seen, so in a way that it's actually quite a feminist makeover. Again, not that that matters, we're putting that out the window. Bring the hat back in dress. No, no, the hat's on the doorn on. It's not all the way back in the room dress for the male gaze. It's fine in a movie, But this one I always think is like a beautiful way of watching, like seeing a makeover happen really really slowly, and having it be part of the character's evolution in a way that just feels so real. And this makeover scene is from the two thousand and two classic My Big Fat Greek Wedding. Oh have you seen it? Yeah? No I haven't. Yeah, what a great movie? 24:50Speaker 2 Right? 24:50Speaker 1 The is not to speak The first one is the first one I would say is a perfect movie. So in this if anyone hasn't seen it. Nina the Dallas, who also wrote and produced and created the movie, plays Tula and John Corbett our favorite rom com boyfriend. John Corbet's just in every room. Yeah, they just throw him in and he always. 25:11Speaker 2 Works once they get one good one. I feel like it just becomes a role like everyone's boyfriend. 25:16Speaker 1 He just has that vibe and like movies have been like and parts of been like created and written for him, like him playing Aiden Sex and the City. They created like a lot of that role for him. And also the rom com starring Kate Hudson Raising Helen. Have you seen that? Oh you should watch it? Really got it to listen, where she plays a model agent who her sister passes away and she has to like raise her children. John Corbett plays her love interest in that, and I remember like listening to director being like, well, but why would she fall it? Because she's like this beautiful New York like styler that everyone loves. Why would she fall in love with the high school principle like we have to give him something? And then they looked at him like he's John Corbett. Yeah, that's his thing. That's it. We don't have to add anything. Fine, And when you watch the movie, you're like, yeah, I get it. So John Corbett plays Ian Miller and so the story is actually have such a vivid memory of seeing this movie for the first time because it's one of those movie experiences that stays in my head forever because it came out when I was like just starting high school and one of my really good friends in high school is Greek, and so they held like a screening, like the Greek community in Townsville, like the Greek Community Center held a screening as like a fundraising thing, and so we all went to that, and yeah, it was the best way to see it because there's a whole cinema full of Greek people and so they were screaming the joke person and it was just like the vibe was so high. Also, like the characters in this speak Greek, and so they would say a joke and they would all laugh, and then the subtitles will pop up and then like the non Greek s bea because we would all laugh and we're like, oh, we got it now, Like that is really funny. So I Sultays remember it as being like this really joyful experience. So Tula is like an adult. They sort of say her age, like she's like probably in her late twenties, but like in the like you know, Greek household, like super old, unmarried, no children, a pariah of a family, if you will. And she works in like the restaurant, and like she lives with her parents, and her life is so small and everyone's just like she's so frumpy, and you know, all that sort of stuff. And then slowly over time she decides to start kind of changing her life, not on a huge scale, in a way that feels so beautiful relatable in terms of like she goes and takes some computer courses at like a community college, and she's and she then gets a job outside of the family, so she kind. 27:26Speaker 2 Of a second coming of Age's definitely. 27:30Speaker 1 Was really small looking at her parents house and she goes to work in another family business where she's like out you know, by herself in the office. And during all this she gives herself like a little makeover that's peppered through this montage, but it's more so like she'll just wear like instead of wearing like the overly frumpy clothes she was wearing, she just buys herself like a nice dress and a matching cardigan, and then you see her like try and like like do her eyebrows and she puts like just a little bit of lipstick on and like she's like and again the frizzy hair is the frizzy hazel thing, but she does straightened, but it's not pinned straight. She just kind of smooths it and stulls like she put rollers in it. And it's this beautiful, quiet, little makeover that she just does to herself. 28:11Speaker 2 And I think that's what makes it, Yeah, that it's something that she found in herself and like exploring your like your own identity and like finding who you are verse like having the FBI coming it. 28:22Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. When you put the two makeover scenes here that I brought up, it's like one is like, yeah, fifty people in like a government funded bunker trying to make Sandra Bullock look like a woman. And then the other one is just a woman at home in her childhood bedroom, just putting on a little bit of lipstick like Tula, just like you know, and she puts on a card again, and the thing is it just changed all of a sudden, she just feels like herself. And I think this is why it's one of my favorite movie makeovers, is that she hasn't done this too, Like she hasn't met Ian Miller yet, so she hasn't done this for a man. She hasn't even done it with the idea that she could possibly meet a man, because she's still working in like the family business. It's more so that as she kind of got a little bit of education and stepped outside of like the tightness of her family, left her bedroom and just kind of fell like, well, likely she's just prings so much time there. Now she's out in about the world, and all of a sudden, she just becomes the person that she wanted to be. Like it feels like it feels like it's actually the only movie makeover I can think of where it feels like it's just for the Carroc. 29:17Speaker 3 And it's happened before they've met the guy. 29:19Speaker 1 And it's not serving the plot, Like, no one's saying like you have to have makeover so you can be the price of the princes. You could be the prompt get the guy exactly. This is just for her and it's so beautiful and so small and quiet, and she doesn't look She looks different at the end of the movie than she does at the start, but not drastically drastically different. She does take her glasses off on my context is that scene of her trying to contacts. Had to put that in there, exact, had to get it in there. So basically it's like less frizzy hair, no contacts, a cardigan, and some nice lipstick, but not as extreme as other makeovers. And so then she's so happy because she's educated herself. She's working in an office and then Ian Miller played by John Corbett just happens to walk by and sees her get stuck in the headset headset. She tries to get up, and he goes into a travel agent and they chat and they just have this beautiful like courtship courtship is the correct word, where they fall in love but then when they get engaged, huge controversy. He's not Greek and her family unaccepted him. This movie has if anyone hasn't seen it, I cannot recommend it enough because the one liners are so good, Like when they get engaged and she takes him over to her big family gathering. He's like family dinner, like five people, She's like, no, fifty five and they say, like, he doesn't eat meat. I like to put that line in here. It's so good, and just like the lead up to their wedding and everything, and I just like even with her wedding, like she looks gorgeous, but it's never this idea of it. She has to be like overly made up. She looks like a completely different person. So I just think if there's like one movie makeover scene that kind of really changes that formula and makes it like part of the story. It's my big, fat, great wedding and tulla And you know, sometimes okay to put on a nice cardigan and some lipstick and go work in the family travel agency and you'll meet John Corbett. That is quite and that's a lesson. Sometimes it's okay to do all do all those things. Yeah, well, I think the biggest thing is she gets a macover while she goes to community college and gets an education. As we know, that is the thing that will say she three exactly so maybe fair great wording. Love it so much? 31:15Speaker 2 All right, we've come to the man, the man make Yes, it's crazy stupid love. 31:22Speaker 1 Oh my god, yes, okay. 31:24Speaker 2 Steve Carell, he plays col Cow's life is falling apart. His wife has left him. He's trying to get back out into dating. He's hopeless. He's quite a bit of a dig. He's in a bar and he runs into this really cool womanizer obviously played by none other than Ryan Gosling because who else. 31:42Speaker 1 Could and the best supporting actor his abs. Oh my god, they should be in the credits one hundred and they get a whole scene with Emma Stone's character dedicated and not only did he work out for months to get them, but they had like special makeup artists, like because you again, those makeup artists have to come in and do the shading and the bronzing and like draw them on. But they're also just there. They're almost too much like when she sees it, when when like Emmaston's character season and she's like, those are photoshops. I don't think I want to be with someone with apps like that A good look up close and just see them just from just to know what the muscles would look like. But I don't need to feel like that's a violation. 32:19Speaker 3 But for those who are watching the bar is imagining. 32:22Speaker 1 Feeling that's going to put me on a watch list somewhere. But yes, we have a male makeover. 32:30Speaker 2 Isn't interesting like flip on the script of like what we usually expect because it's the woman kind of going through the midlife crisis here where she's had an affair and now the man is like having this like makeover off the back of it. So he goes on this like there's like this three minute makeover montage where they like change all of his outfits. He's learning how to like speak to women, getting all the tips and then putting into the practice. 32:54Speaker 1 It's just like not something you expect either. 32:56Speaker 2 For like Steve Carell, he does it so well because he's just not someone you expect to be like hitting up the ladies in a bar. 33:03Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like that is so true that he gets a makeover. But the reason I didn't come into my head when we're talking aout makeover is is that even though he does get a makeover, it's nowhere near his extreme as some of these other makeover scenes with women. I guess with men, there's only so much you can do once you sort of wax them because their hair of shorts is not that curly. You can't have that. You don't have the curly plotline. And I guess that he didn't have glos. They should have put him in glasses. He did look very like dad because then they could no, he does look different. Like it's a good makeover scene, but I'm just saying it doesn't have like the kind of and they don't have a montage, right, that's a mistake they should have had. They do like a full musical montage. 33:41Speaker 2 There wasn't a musical montage, but they do go through like a number of like designer clothes. There's a really funny quote where like Ryan Gosling's character is looking Steve Crorer up and down and he's like, are you Steve Jobs the founder of Apple? No, then you can't wear those to his shoes And basically the whole goal is like for Steve Carell's character to be better than the gap. 34:00Speaker 1 Oh my god. And I have a vivid memory of him like being really repulsed by his wallet and again not thinking of wallet be part of a makeover. But I guess for a guy, especially it is and the fact that it has Velcrow and I think it was like I was a kid while watching at the time, or I was like, oh my, Walter has Velcrow's cute. And I also wasn't the sexy man out in the streets. But if I wanted to be, I had the wrong wallet. Is a little bit of an egg. 34:22Speaker 2 What would you do if you were on a date with a man without he's got coins? 34:26Speaker 1 They're like jingling around. Well, oh my god, would I break up with a man if he had a Velcrow wallet? Something to think about on this if you're on the Sydney dating scene, kind of say that potentially that's gonna happen, and that's not even the worst thing. 34:38Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't think I would break up with him if they had. I wouldn't either I have a wallet for their birthday, Yeah, I. 34:44Speaker 1 Would, just especially because every time you do the rip with a Velcrow wallet, it's so loud and intense. It is it's an announcement. Yeah, and you're just like I'm opening my velcro point and there's no Yeah, that's some folded in here, and you're trying to like pull like straighten the money out because it's been folded in there. 35:00Speaker 2 Actually still have yours exactly exactly. 35:02Speaker 1 Well, I think I am one of the last team in the world who has a wallet that I. 35:05Speaker 2 Lost my wallet and now I've lost all my cards, like I get all scattered around the house. 35:09Speaker 1 Okay, no, no, no, you need it just PSA. Everyone gives me so much shit for having a wallet, but when we can, I just tell you. When someone needs a physical card or something, who do they turn to me? Who's got a wallet? It's got an emergency hair tie in it, it's got emergency cash in there. 35:21Speaker 2 So basically, get rid of your wallet if you don't want anyone to ask you for anything, yeah, exactly. 35:25Speaker 1 Or if you're going through a makeover, exactly exactly. If you're going through a makeover, that's the first thing change. Yeah. 35:30Speaker 2 I just love crazy stupid love, though obviously follows the lives of like lots of different love stories that are all like interconnected, but at the heart of it, it's like Steve's Carrell's character. Yeah, and like everything that he goes through. 35:43Speaker 3 But yeah, I love that movie. 35:44Speaker 1 It was so good. Emily and I talked about that in an episode little while ago when were actually talking about plot twists because it has who hasn't seen it, although I assuming most of you has. It has a great plot twist that is someone expected but just works so well for these characters. Oh love, Yeah, you don't spoil it for like the two people are there who haven't seen it. Okay, last time I'm going to bring up and I had to go back to nineteen ninety nine. Cool, and I just remember again watching this movie on a loop as a kid again as a kid on a VHK guest. Before you say that, oh, I'm actually I wonder if you've I mean, I hope you've seen this. Otherwise I'm going to be super disappointed. It's the nineteen ninety nine teen classic. She's all that. 36:22Speaker 2 No. 36:24Speaker 1 I know should be this surprise every time, but like, this is a classic movie. I thought you're going to say Clueless. Then, Oh, I had Clues on my list, but we talked about Clueless so many times. Yeah, we have a whole brutally honest review on it, so that's got an important makeover seeing it too. You've never seen you know what I know of it, Okay, and like that's the weird thing to me. Can I say you know of it, but you've never watched it. 36:46Speaker 3 I think a lot of it is like what my parents like fed me at that time. 36:50Speaker 1 You're an adult woman now who lives alone with your own TV. You can make your own choice. I'm just saying so many times I went home and I'm like, oh, I wish I had a new, great movie to watch. But the hard thing about me and my job, I've seen every movie. I literally have seen every movie. It's so hard for me to sit down and find a movie that I haven't seen that this is not fair, but I really want to watch. And then you're spoilt for choice. You could sit down a fry night. There's so many. 37:13Speaker 2 Movie hours an hour, and I got in my adult life too, it's valuable, like I've things to look forward to exactly. 37:19Speaker 1 You would love this again. This out of all the movies on my list, this is probably kind of the most problematic. 37:24Speaker 3 Okay. 37:24Speaker 1 It's also like using a woman for like a nefarious reason over like sexualizing her and there's a slight sprinkling of sexual assault end. But it's a classic. So she's all that. It came out in nineteen ninety nine and it stars Rachel Lee Cook. Do you know that name? Blasphemy? Rachel Lee Cook was in the late nineties, only two thousands. I'm a icnic girl. She started so many big movies. Also, Josing the Pussycats was a movie that was torn apart and I think did wreck her career. I think, but now we look back at it and see it for the masterpiece that it is. So she plays Laney Bogs. What a name? I don't know. They were like, you know what, this girl's gonna be unpopular and ugly, and we're gonna give her name's gonna be Laney Bogs, and that's going to explain exactly why. 38:07Speaker 3 Laneye b would be cute. 38:08Speaker 1 Yeah, they don't call it that. And so Lanny Blogs is she's an artist at school, and she was like and she kind of just looks away at paintings all this sort of stuff, and she dresses like an absolute hobo. So they went to because Rachel Lee Cook is a really like a classically beautiful kind of pixy looking woman, and so they really had to go to town to make her unattractive. So they've dressed her in like really oversized, paint slatted clothes. People don't want women to be comfortable, no, exactly, and you know what, she is so comfortable. That's what I take away from her, Like, and she's wearing about fifteen and before she gets her makeover, she's wearing about fifteen layers of clothes in all scenes, like she'll have like a pair of like old pants on and like a long top over that, and then like a singler and then that's very inn now and like an exactly ahead of her time. So Laney Bogs is the most unpopular nerd at school and they have have he do the classic thing of like the first time we really see her, she just falls over. Girls in rom coms always falling over. Sometimes they're so hot and beautiful that they fall over because like I'm so clumsy, and sometimes it's to show they're a nerd. But and then like feeling around exactly well exactly, and she and she wears really big glass okay of course, and straight hair but pulled back in a low ponytail I'm not a sleek ponytail like a I do anything to my ponytail. But the glasses is the real thing. So she So she's the ugly girl at school. And then we have Freddy Prince Junior and this is peak Freddy Prince Junior era. Don't I mean, I don't want to say his air is completely over, but like this was peak, Like he was the wrong com leader and so many things. Playing Zach Syla and he is like the sports storry. I know, Lany Bogs Zach Syler. You know he wrote on this movie m Night Shamalan before he did six Cents. Yeah, like I know, well, you could just be a skipper for high It's like hash. It's like haw Shonda Rhimes wrote the classic Britney Spears movie Crossroads. 40:05Speaker 2 Job. 40:05Speaker 1 Yeah, before you have your big break, you just write the scripts that are out there. So Mna Scharmalan is like I can just imagine he had like the sixth cent script on one screen and like the other and between them. So Zach is like the actual like the jock of the school, the king. Everyone loves him. They're all seniors in their final year of high school and they're coming up to prom and again a very old school like American high school thing is like the prom is always like the climax of the movie, like everything's leading towards that. The rest of his cast is like a who's Who of the nineties. We have Matthew Lillard as Brock Hudson. He's like a reality stuff. Paul Walker, the late Paul Walker again peak kind of his like era playing Dean. And then Jodi Lynn O'Keefe. I don't know if you know that name, but you would know her face. She is in every kind of she's She wanted to be on the Vampire Diaries and stuff later on, but she was in a lot of these early like teen movies, always as like kind of the high school mean girl, the beautiful high school young girl. So Zach and Taylor have been Taylor Vaughan have been together, and they're like they're going to be prom king and queen. That's their thing. Only Taylor meets Matthew Lylard's character, who is old of them out of high school, a reality TV start on the real world. In the real world, Ye dumps Zach for him, and it's like anarchy in the school that the couple has broken up and that Taylor has dumped Zach, and then everyone feels sorry for Zach. And he was like, I can have any girl I want. This is not romantically he meant to fall in love with him, and you kind of do, but he's like, I can have any girl I want. He's like, I could make a girl like that. So this movie is actually based on Pigmalion, which is a play in a book that then went on to inspire the Audrey Hepburnt movie My Fair Lady. So this is a play. Do you know there was a moment in time there where like Clueless is based on Emma and She's the Man, Yeah, And She's the Man is based on Twelfth Night, and as we discovered another podcast the other day, Bridge Jone's Diaries Pride and Prejudice. So this was a big moment in time where, like all of these teens, the biggest thing you could do for box office gold was to remake these classic literature as a teen rooman, now we make movies from last year, and now we'll just remake anything that's out there in the world. So Zach is like, I can make any woman. I can make her the popular girl. And so Paul Walker's character makes him a bet. He's like, Okay, I'm going to bet you that you can't make like a girl that I pick in this school into the prom queen. And Zach's like, pick someone. And that's of course when Lanye makes her entrance, comes up the stairs. She's making fifty layers of clothing. She's got fifty bags eye and she like immediately falls to the floor. And he was like, and then I'm just gonna say Paul Walker because it's two, so you know who I'm talking about. Paul Walker goes her and Freddie Prince Junior. Zach is like, Lady Box, absolutely not. He's like, like, the subtext is she's the ugliest woman I've ever seen. So then he has to the subjects of all these exactly, and then Zach's like, well, I'm gonna have to do this now. So then Zach has to go and try and befriend laany Bogs. And it's so funny when he like keeps trying because he's used to. He's the star of the school, he's the sports star. Everyone loves him. He's so charming. So he kind of goes over to her, like later that night he goes up and to her where she's working, where she's wearing this like huge, full lawful hat because she works in like service industry and he's like never worked a day in his life, and he's like kind of like hey, and she just has no time of day for him, and so funny because she's like, look, I'm not smart, and he's like what this is kind of like a good kind of like twist of that classic like dumb jock smart girl being ugly. She's like, I'm not smart. I know I look smart because I got the subtext is because she's got wearing glasses. I know I look smart, but I'm not. And I can't choot. I can't chewt to you. She's like, I can't. I know you're probably failing school, but I can't help you. I can't choot you. I just I look smart, but i'm not. He's like that is oh no. Then he's like, oh I'm smart. I'm like the third top of that class. I don't need tutoring, thank you so much. So he's smart. So he is smart, yeah, because he's like his whole subject is like his parents like you're going to like this fancy school and you're gonna do this, You're gonna do that. He's like, he can't pick anything of his life. Smart boy, I know, sucks. And so then he starts to befriend her, and like slowly over time, starts to sort of like make her over and teach her how to be cool. And the makeover scene is so so important because up until this he has no like sexual interest in her because she's got glasses, you know, of course, and he can't tell, Yeah, he can't tell because it's pulled back, and he can't tell that she's got a tiny hot body because she keeps falling over and oversized and she falling over so she has a muscle issue. It's all happened. So he's like, he's like, I'm gonna make her gorgeous, but I have no interest in her. And then he brings over his older sister, Mac played by Anna Papquin, and Anna Pumpquin is only in this movie for a short moment, but she makes She comes into this sassy older girl from college, his sister. And then there's this party at school and so Mac takes Laney upstairs and they have this moment where and this moment has been parodied so many times, most famously in Not Another Teen Movie, where all she does is pull out the ponytail and she's like, and you're beautiful. But they at this moment too where lady talks about the fact that her mom died when she was little and so she's been raising her little brother and looking after her dad, and she's like, I just never had a mom to like teach me this stuff, because Mac is like, in the nicest way possible, your eyebrows are disgusting, let's pluck them, Like why don't you wear makeup? And she's like, well, I didn't have anyone to teach me, which is lovely also so young, like yeah, yeah, Well she's a senior in high school and she's never plucked her eyebrows, which isn't the craziest thing at all, but the movie does make you think like her life has been severely stunted because of this. So this college student cuts her hair so instead of having and again usually they add hair in, so this is also maybe not even like a flipping the script, but at the time they so she has this like long, kind of straight, like scraggly hair, they cut it into a super super chic boss she does yeah, yeah, exactly, cuts her head perfectly, plucks her eyebrows, takes the glasses off, apparently does like a huge tan and stuff. And then we have a staircase, and all we haven't had a staircase moment so far as you know, all good movie makeover scenes really need a staircase. That's the moment. So Zach's downstairs, he's waiting to take it as party. He's expecting Lady Bogs to come like like his sister's just gonna like put some lipstick on her and she's gonna come frumpy down the stairs. All of a sudden, the camera pans up the stairs and a slow plan and you see a foot come down in a red high heel, and then the classic song kiss Me by Sixpence none the Richer, also from Dawson's Creek. I kind of tell you how this movie. This song is like this soundtrack of my entire teenage years. And every time I play it now, I actually, that song's too powerful. I have to be careful when I play it because if I play it with the street oh passion stranger, like I can't. That song's too powerful. It's just like it just makes you right, because it's a soundtrack to all the big romantic moments in our lives as that we watched on screen and not participation saying I don't have that many referends. No, no, no, I've never had a romantic tree that song, but it makes me think of a time where like it's signaled this like cue a social cue tea. Yeah, it's like this subconscious like dog whistle of like I'm about to fall in love for the first time, and as a woman in her late FERI I still feel that. And so the camera pans up kiss Me starts to play, and then you see Lannie for the first time post makeover, and she is an absolute bombshell. She's wearing a tiny red mini dress, one of the most iconic dresses in film. I would say, she's got this beautiful, not over the top makeup, like not a red lip or anything, just like beautiful, smoldering, bronzy makeup, a beautiful chic Bob and Zach like loses his mind, he cannot believe it. We look on and Freddie Princeton up give that man at the Academy Award. He just he's like, oh my god, this is the most stunning woman I've ever seen. This is simple manner exactly. You put in a red little as in my early twenties, I had so many little red party dresses because all I wanted to do was dressed like Lannie. I was just waiting for a stair I was waiting for a staircase, and I've never lived in a house with staircase. How will I make my entrance? So she's walking down the stairs, the song's playing, it's so beautiful, and then she falls face first down the stairs. Well, she grabs the because she walked in Heels's true. It's actually like a quite a it's quite dangerous. Yeah, she's trying to do a slow walk down the stairs in heels, the first time she's ever worn heels. It's actually quite the moment. So the spell is like broken because she has to grab the railing and he has to help her, and everyone's like ooh, and he's like ill and he's like, oh, I remember how before? Yeah, I don't know. But falling when you're hot and following your ugly too true. When she fell when she was ugly disgusting. When she falls and she's hot, he's like, pretty well, help you yeah, pretty brifect. Yeah, it's so funny. And before before she comes down the standcase, Anna Patlin's character Mac does a little introduction. She's like, and they try to I think they're aware there that like, giving this teenage girl a bombshell makeover might send the wrong message. They try to dilute it, but it doesn't work. That's what I was thinking, is. 48:54Speaker 2 That putting it like a young girl in like red dress, red heel. 48:57Speaker 1 A sexy red dress for a man that's trying to win a bet with her. Yeah, there's a lot. It's all trying to make grimacing for anyone who cuts. So Mac tries to sort of dilute the message. So she comes down before Lane and she goes introducing the not improved but different. It's kind of what she says Lady Bogs. She's like, not improved but different because she's trying to be like, no, she was good before, and I'm like, guys, she wasn't good before. That's the part of the whole the movie. That's the premise of this exactly. And so as it goes on, she does dress better, but she doesn't like overly change how she dresses. And then she wears this like black glittery dress to the prom, and she does look nice, but it's the whole thing because she goes with Paul Walker's character and then he tries to sexually assault her and then Zack Syla saves her and then they fall in love and have a gorgeous kiss and then there's a huge dance number. There's the best dance number that it's a lot happens. That's a lot that poor girl. Yeah, yeah, she goes through a lot. Well, she finds out before the prom that it's a bet, and she has this moment where she yells act She's like, all of a sudden, this turns into like it does turn into a Shakespearean drama. It's not based on Shakespeare, but the vibe. She's like, am I bet, am I bet? Am my fucking bet And he just looks at her asi and he goes yes. And then oh my god, burn it into my soul that moment because you just like I remember as a kid, like nearly crying. I'm like, yeah, it's over, Like they'll liver be in love now where they do spoiler alert end up in love. She should be like, thank you for the makeover. Yeah, exactly. Now everyone at school wants me because they realized I'm not I could make a man. Yes, that's the sequel, so that in my head is well. There's a remake with Addison Ray called He's All That. Whether I've watched that, but I don't that. 50:34Speaker 3 I think I don't remember it because I had to burn it out. 50:36Speaker 1 That is a burable movie. Okay, that movie is blaspheming. They tried to flip the script by making it a girl making over a guy, which I'm all for, but the movie itself is terrible. So I can't believe. You can't not You cannot live in a world where you've watched He's All That and not She's All That. I know when one is a one is an abomination and one is a classic teen movie. So you've done that wrong. I'm sorry. So She's All That one of the teen movies that still lives in my head is one of the best makeovers ever. And again, don't listen to that song, just like on the Fly, Oh it's too dangerous, dangerous, use it responsibly. 51:12Speaker 2 Thanks so much for listening to the spill today. Don't forget to follow us on socials. 51:16Speaker 1 We've popped. 51:16Speaker 2 The link in the show notes will be back in your feed bright and early tomorrow with morning tea. 51:21Speaker 3 Ash London has all of the entertainment headlines. 51:24Speaker 1 To start your day. 51:25Speaker 2 The Spill is produced by Minishi Sworn with video production by Michael Keane. 51:29Speaker 1 Bye ByeBecome a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Time Mousechine
Ep. 249 - Disney Channel to the Xtreme

The Time Mousechine

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2026 59:26


No girls allowed! We're changing the channel to discuss our first-ever Disney XD show, Kickin' It, and all of the nut shots, nipple twisters, and Jason Earles moments that come with it. Plus, our thoughts on Coachella weekend two, Olivia Rodrigo's new single, and the status of Princess Diaries 3. ----- Follow The Time Mousechine: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Rough Cut Retrospective
Seeing Double: The Princess Diaries/The Princess Diaries 2 - Royal Engagement

The Rough Cut Retrospective

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 17, 2026 66:57


The year of Anne Hathaway begins this weekend with the release of 'MOTHER MARY'. So, the boys tackle a Hathaway themed episode of 'Seeing Double', and look back on 'THE PRINCESS DIARIES' films.

Entertainment Tonight
Entertainment Tonight for Tuesday, April 14, 2026

Entertainment Tonight

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 15, 2026 23:33


Britney Spears and her battle with drugs. The addiction she kept hidden and the family intervention five months in the making. Then, “90210” star Jennie Garth on her breakdown and hospitalization she's never talked about until now. Plus, her secret romance with Luke Perry that changed her outlook on love. And, the Jackson family back where it all began in Gary, Indiana. But why Janet Jackson is missing from the family's new film. Then, A-list dad energy as their daughters step into the spotlight. The new film starring Adam Sandler, Chris Rock, and Eddie Murphy's grown up girls. Plus, “Air Bud” is back. ET is with the golden good boy stealing scenes in Sin City. And, proud papa Gordon Ramsay fresh from his daughter's ‘I dos' giving us a tour of the new “Masterchef” kitchen revealing his pantry must-haves. Then, Anne Hathaway in her pop star era. The real story behind her new music. Plus, as “The Princess Diaries” marks a milestone, Mandy Moore has feelings about a new sequel. And, a first look at “Focker in Law” with Ariana Grande joining Robert De Niro.  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Connor Happer Show
Crossover (Mon 4/13 - Seg 1)

The Connor Happer Show

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 13, 2026 27:22


Matt has had it with his laptop, being gifted sleep shirts, Anne Hathaway, Jacob Elordi, Justin Trudeau's weekend at Coachella, The Princess Diaries, spelling names, the Big Mac has dropped off,

Auscast Literature Channel
'I Just Wanna Be Sad': What teenagers read ft. author Olivia De Zilva

Auscast Literature Channel

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2026 64:51


Can you remember what it was like to be a teenager? This week, author Olivia De Zilva joins us again to recall the feelings and stories that shaped us when we were young. As an ex-teenager and current writer for teens/young adults, Olivia has much wisdom to share about the whimsy and grittiness that characterise those formative years. Over the past few decades, what’s changed and what’s remained the same about books for young readers? What do teenagers really want to read? And how do authors express life’s messiness to younger audiences without being paternalistic? If you love YA or know somebody who does — check out Olivia De Zilva’s latest novel, Eggshell! It’s the current Amy & book of the month and we’d love to see you at our live book club over on YouTube on April 23 (7pm ACST). MENTIONS: Authors:Jacqueline WilsonJohn GreenLemony SnicketRachel Hennessy Books:Alanna: The First Adventure by Tamora PierceAnne of Green Gables by L. M. MontgomeryChinese Cinderella by Adeline Yen MahCode Name Verity by Elizabeth WeinEggshell by Olivia De ZilvaFirst Love from Silhouette series by Silhouette Books New YorkHating Alison Ashley by Robin KleinI Am David by Anne HolmI Am Malala by Malala YousafzaiLola Rose by Jacqueline WilsonLooking for Alibrandi by Melina MarchettaMao’s Last Dancer by Li CunxinMax Remy Super Spy by Deborah AbelaMy Spare Heart by Jared ThomasPlaying Beatie Bow by Ruth ParkRanger’s Apprentice by John FlanaganSpecky Magee by Felice Arena & Garry LyonThe Book Thief by Marcus ZusakThe Catcher in the Rye by J. D. SalingerThe Diary of a Young Girl by Anne FrankThe Little Mermaid by Hans Christian AndersenThe Outsiders by S.E. HintonThe Princess Diaries by Meg CabotThe Saddle Club by Bonnie BryantThe Time Master Trilogy by Louise CooperThe Worst Witch by Jill MurphyTom Brown’s School Days by Thomas HughesWarriors by Erin HunterWuthering Heights by Emily Brontë Film & TV:Bluey (2018–)BoJack Horseman (2014-2020)Daria (1997-2002)Gossip Girl (2007-2012)Skins (2007-2013)The OC (2003-2007)The Princess Diaries (2001)The Saddle Club (2001-2009)Wuthering Heights (2026) Other:Molly Goodrich, 2020, ‘The Rise and Fall of YA’, Your Magazine, August 8@Comfortable_Bell9539 ‘As a former fan, I feel betrayed by her’, r/EnoughJKRowling, Reddit LINKS:

Pulp Kitchen
EP225 | Anne Hathaway's Best Movies | PULP KITCHEN PODCAST

Pulp Kitchen

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 1, 2026 68:10


Anne Hathaway has four films coming out this year, so we're diving into her filmography, from The Princess Diaries to Interstellar, and exploring why she's one of the best actors working today.Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/c/PulpKitchenPodcastSend us your questions to hello@pulpkitchenpodcast.com!Enjoy new episodes of Pulp Kitchen every WednesdayYouTube/Spotify: Pulp Kitchen PodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/pulpkitchenpodcast / https://www.instagram.com/jamesbriefel/ / https://www.instagram.com/georgepundek/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pulpkitchenpodcastLetterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/GeorgePulp/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I Know What You Watched in the 90s (and early 2000s)

It's Samantha's birthday month, so she picked 2001s "The Princess Diaries," which was a surprise hit with the whole group!

The Gate Community Church Podcast
Lessons from The Princess Diaries with Special Guest Byrnese Craig

The Gate Community Church Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 25, 2026 53:13


Not My Bagg
Princess & Junior Andre Shut Down AI RUMOURS, Reveal PARANORMAL Childhood & Weird Habits!

Not My Bagg

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 17, 2026 52:58


This week, Princess and Junior Andre join us!

I Love This, You Should Too
173 Pretty Woman (1990) Repodcast

I Love This, You Should Too

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 2, 2026 75:17


Today we are discussing the 1990 romantic comedy Pretty Woman! We debate whether this movie is a step forward or backward for feminism, its class systems, meaningful apologies, retail revenge, happy endings, charm, & more! Plus, Seinfeld, the Mandela Effect, The Little Mermaid, The Princess Diaries, & Audrey Hepburn! This episode was originally released on September 5, 2022 I Love This You Should Too is hosted by Samantha and Indy Randhawa Pretty Woman is a 1990 American romantic comedy film directed by Garry Marshall, from a screenplay by J. F. Lawton. The film stars Richard Gere and Julia Roberts, and features Héctor Elizondo, Ralph Bellamy (in his final performance), Laura San Giacomo, and Jason Alexander in supporting roles. The film's story centers on down-on-her-luck Hollywood prostitute Vivian Ward and wealthy businessman Edward Lewis. Vivian is hired to be Edward's escort for several business and social functions, and their relationship develops over the course of her week-long stay with him. The film's title Pretty Woman is based on the 1964 song "Oh, Pretty Woman" by Roy Orbison. It is the first film on-screen collaboration between Gere and Roberts; their second film, Runaway Bride, was released in 1999. Originally intended to be a dark cautionary tale about class and prostitution in Los Angeles, the film was re-conceived as a romantic comedy with a large budget. It was widely successful at the box office and was the third-highest-grossing film of 1990. The film saw the highest number of ticket sales in the US ever for a romantic comedy,[2] with Box Office Mojo listing it as the number-one romantic comedy by the highest estimated domestic tickets sold. Feminist Film Theory and Pretty Woman by Mari Ruti: https://books.google.ca/books?id=zzDSDAAAQBAJ&dq=pretty+woman&source=gbs_navlinks_s

Subtextual
The Princess Diaries (2001)

Subtextual

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2026 64:51


Lizzie and Sam join the royal family and acknowledge the miracle that is The Princess Diaries starring real life fairy godmother Julie Andrews and ultimate ally Anne Hathaway. We count a double digit number of queer-coded characters in this film and tease out several plot themes that speak to us subtextually. So thank you for being here today! Clip: Garry Marshall & mystery producer Photo: Helen, lesbian mom Watch the video episode on Youtube! Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/subtextualpod! Follow us on social  @subtextualpod Youtube | Instagram |TikTok | Letterboxd Subtextual is hosted by Lizzie Doria & Sam De La Fuente Edited by Gerald Lee | Engineered by Lee Garcia Produced by Lee Garcia & Gerald Lee & Bruno Doria Music by DJKNEAUX

Yours, Mine, & Theirs
Podcast 187: Artificial Benevolence

Yours, Mine, & Theirs

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 21, 2026 142:35


"If you're a hibernating animal, do you wake up in a pile of your own poop?"Young Caroline faces her toughest community service yet discussing the joy of 21st century robot friends mixed in with the horror of 20th century robot friends!0:00 -- Intro3:56 -- Short Circuit36:04 -- WALL-E1:06:29 -- The Wild Robot1:28:34 -- Contact information1:30:18 -- Awards and rankings2:13:27 -- Future business2:21:33 -- Outro and outtakes {187}!Hey! Be sure to watch Sleeping Beauty, The Princess Diaries, and The Princess and the Frog for next time!Hey! We have a Patreon (Ours, Ours, & Ours))!Hey! DON'T leave us a voicemail at (801) 896-####!Hey! Shop the Zazzle store! Hey! Hear In Memoriam! Hey! Hear Fantasy Murder Love Triangle! Hey! Hear J.R. Watches Star Trek for the first time!Hey! Subscribe in iTunes! Hey! Check out the Facebook page and vote on the next category! Hey! Check out Jon's YM&T Letterboxd list!Hey! Check out Roy's YM&T Letterboxd list! Hey! Email us at yoursminetheirspodcast@gmail.com! Send new topics! Send new theme songs!

They Called This a Movie
Episode 359 - First Daughter (2004)

They Called This a Movie

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 20, 2026 73:05


America celebrated Presidents' Day this week, so we decided to watch First Daugher, the attempt to give Katie Holmes her own Princess Diaries. Join us as we discuss how Katie Holmes stacks up against Anne Hathaway, the wild decisions in the third act, and question whether or not Michael Keaton did 9/11. Find us on Bluesky, Instagram, and Threads @TCTAMPod and on TikTok @theycalledthisamovie.Our theme music was written and performed by Dave Katusa. He can be found on Instagram @dkat_productions.

Go Get Your Girl
The Princess Diaries

Go Get Your Girl

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2026 78:13


THE QUEEN IS COMING! This week on Go Get Your Girl, Emma and Katie dive into their innter Mia Thermopolises as they trip over the bleachers, drop the ice cream, and accidentally discover they're next in line for the throne.They debate the real villain of the film (absolutely Lily), celebrate Genovia as a country built entirely on vibes and press conferences, and question how no one clocked a literal queen wandering around San Francisco.It's unhinged nostalgia, feral teen angst, and a loving roast of the movie that taught us that the secret to royalty is a flat iron

Too Opinionated
Kathy Garver: From Family Affair to the GRAMMIES| Too Opinionated Podcast

Too Opinionated

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2026 56:47


On this episode of Too Opinionated, host Michael Wall sits down with actress, voice actor, and audiobook legend Kathy Garver. Best known as Cissy Davis on the classic TV series Family Affair, Kathy began her career in Cecil B. DeMille's The Ten Commandments. Her film and television work includes The Princess Diaries, Apollo 13, and numerous made-for-TV movies. Kathy is also a powerhouse in voice acting and audiobooks. She voiced Firestar on Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends and Pepper on Chuck Norris: Karate Kommandos. With over 80 audiobooks recorded, four Audie Awards, and a GRAMMY® nomination for Elvis, Rocky and Me: The Carol Connors Story, her impact on entertainment spans generations.

Oxford Road Presents: The Divided States of Media
The Podcast Princess Diaries: Inside Hala Taha's Performance Playbook

Oxford Road Presents: The Divided States of Media

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 21, 2026 55:02


What happens when a podcasting powerhouse is also an elite marketer?Find out in a creator spotlight episode of Media Roundtable: Special Edition.This week, Dan Granger (CEO & Founder, Oxford Road) welcomes The Podcast Princess herself, Hala Taha (CEO & Founder, YAP Media, host of Young and Profiting). It's hard to overstate what big Hala fans we all are at Oxford Road. She's one of the few creators who cares as much as we do about making the ads work. (Check out her Ad Infinitum episode with our very own Stew Redwine.)Hala's delivered great reads and results for clients for years, and ORBIT has the receipts. Young and Profiting was #4 on our OG Podcast list, and it's #2 in this month's Self-Improvement ranking. But hearing how Hala approaches the ads, that performance is the least surprising thing. Dan and Hala put on a masterclass of creator marketing, talking: The Power of Demonstration, Letting Creators Cook, and Getting in the Weeds. Let's dig in.“ It's not about the channel. It's not about audio, YouTube, social, it doesn't matter. What you're picking is the creator.”- Hala Taha (CEO & Founder, YAP Media, host of Young and Profiting)See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A Sober Girls Guide
Veronica: Alcoholic Princess Diaries

A Sober Girls Guide

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2026 61:00


Trigger warning: this episode includes discussion of suicide attempts and may be sensitive for some listeners. In this episode, I sit down with the creator of Alcoholic Princess Diaries, Veronica. We dive into one of the biggest questions in sobriety. Is alcoholism a disease or not? And how that belief shapes shame, responsibility, and self-forgiveness. This conversation covers early sobriety, letting go of the drinking identity, and how to deal with shame around past choices made while drinking. We talk about growth without self-punishment and what becoming your best self actually looks like when alcohol is no longer part of the picture. If you're sober curious, alcohol-free, or questioning your relationship with drinking, this episode offers honest insight, humor, and relatable recovery insight.

JJ Meets World
You Don't Know That Word | JJMW #480

JJ Meets World

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2026 34:47


Board games are supposed to bring people together—but some of them feel more like intellectual flexes than friendly competition. This week, JJ and Tucker dive deep into the board games that secretly say more about you than the game itself. From Scrabble's smug superiority complex, to Monopoly house rules that feel suspiciously like modern economics, to a surprisingly revealing game of Guess Who, the conversation spirals into stereotypes, pop culture, childhood nostalgia, and why modern board games are having a full-on renaissance. Along the way, they unpack: Why Scrabble feels like someone trying to prove they're smarter than you How Guess Who accidentally becomes a psychological profiling tool The evolution of Monopoly boards (and why Fargo might have messed one up) Carmen Sandiego, Anne Hathaway, and heist-movie logic Dead birds, Mr. McGregor, and childhood trauma The Olympics lottery, obscure events, and cheering for the flag   00:00 – Please put your clothes back on (intro) 01:08 – The board game that feels like an insult 01:49 – Monopoly trash talk and pandemic grudges 03:09 – Fargo Monopoly and questionable city design 04:33 – Monopoly house rules gone completely off the rails 05:15 – Scrabble: the "I'm better than you" game 06:14 – Scrabble boards, editions, and nostalgia 07:47 – Travel games and modern Guess Who 08:49 – Guess Who as personality profiling 10:20 – Bias, stereotypes, and reading strangers 11:25 – Why Guess Who should be a TV show 11:56 – Carmen Sandiego rights and reboots 13:20 – Anne Hathaway and heist movie logic 15:27 – The Princess Diaries (somehow gets darker) 18:50 – Board game collecting and Kickstarter culture 19:35 – Viticulture, birds, and pigeon slander 21:02 – Finding a dead turkey vulture 23:03 – Peter Rabbit and childhood fear 27:32 – Registering for the 2028 Olympics lottery 29:25 – Skateboarding, table tennis, and obscure events 32:27 – Eddie the Eagle and Olympic loopholes 34:09 – Closing and credits   Support the show: For more episodes of JJ Meets World, or to find out how you can support the podcast, visit http://www.jjmeetsworld.com/ Patreon:   / jjmeetsworld   Merch Shop: https://shop.spreadshirt.com/jj-meets... Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0L9IGvJ... YouTube:    / @jjmeetsworldpodcast3115    

Pod and Prejudice
Mansfield Park Chapters 15-16

Pod and Prejudice

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2026 53:17


Lovers' Vows cast list is up! Fanny is offered the role of a lifetime, which she does NOT want, and Miss Crawford is the only one who comes to her aid. The company decides to search for their Anhalt amongst their neighbors but Edmund puts a stop to that by offering to play Anhalt himself.Topics discussed include playing dress-up, horse betting, why Edmund DOESN'T want to play Anhalt, Mary's moment of kindness, and Fanny's studio apartment.Patron Study Questions this week come from Avi and Ghenet. Topics discussed include our opinions on Mary's character and why Mrs. Norris is so cruel to Fanny.Becca's Study Questions: Topics discussed include Edmund's conduct and choices vs. Fanny's conduct and choices, whether we buy Edmund's reasoning, and Fanny's studio loft and what it tells us about Fanny's relationship to Mansfield Park.Funniest Quote: For a moment no one spoke; and then many spoke together to tell the same melancholy truth, that they had not yet got any Anhalt. “Mr. Rushworth was to be Count Cassel, but no one had yet undertaken Anhalt.”“I had my choice of the parts,” said Mr. Rushworth; “but I thought I should like the Count best, though I do not much relish the finery I am to have.”“You chose very wisely, I am sure,” replied Miss Crawford, with a brightened look; “Anhalt is a heavy part.”“The Count has two-and-forty speeches,” returned Mr. Rushworth, “which is no trifle.”Questions moving forward: Will Fanny act? How will it go with Edmund as Anhalt?Who wins the chapters? Mary CrawfordGlossary of Terms and Phrases:nice (adj.): fastidious, scrupulousGlossary of People, Places, and Things: Home Alone, The Princess Diaries, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia Next Episode: Mansfield Park Chapters 17-18Our show art was created by Torrence Browne, and our audio is produced by Graham Cook. For bios and transcripts, check out our website at podandprejudice.com. Pod and Prejudice is transcribed by speechdocs.com. To support the show, check out our Patreon! Check out our merch at https://podandprejudice.dashery.com.Instagram: @podandprejudiceTwitter: @podandprejudiceFacebook: Pod and PrejudiceYoutube: Pod and PrejudiceMerch store: https://podandprejudice.dashery.com/

STARGIRL
Ep. 88: Anne Hathaway with Vanessa Lily Chung

STARGIRL

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 8, 2026 91:25


This week we're joined by the writer Vanessa Lily Chung to (finally!!) tackle Anne Hathaway, an unassailable Stargirl whose Dream / Threat has always been totally vague but universally felt. We explore our own girlhood memories young Anne (Princess Diaries, Ella Enchanted, The Devil Wears Prada) and the latent “makeover” dream therein, reflect on the near-decade of #Hathahate, trace her comeback in the last few years via her fashion and beauty renaissance, and speculate on the major 2026 she's about to have with TDWP II, Mother Mary, The Odessey, and more. Plus: Vanessa's fascinating racial misidentification with Anne as a young woman, Anne's obsession with playing “sick girls,” the psychology of the default brunette, and the Threat of plainness. Vanessa Lily Chung is a writer from Brooklyn. Her criticism has appeared in The Baffler, The Brooklyn Rail, and The Henry James Review. Follow her on IG or email her at vanessalilyc@gmail.com.*Emma's opening a few more personal training spots for Winter 2026. If you're interested in learning more, book a free consult call here!Discussed:Performances mentioned: Princess Diaries, Ella Enchanted, Brokeback Mountain, The Devil Wears Prada, Rachel Getting Married, Love and Other Drugs, Get Smart, Bride Wars, The Dark Knight Rises, One Day, Les Mis, Interstellar, The Intern, Ocean's 8, Eileen, The Idea of You, Mother Mary, The Devil Wears Prada II, The Odessey, Verity#Hathahate archive in The Cut (!!)Anne at the 2008 OscarsAnne in pink Prada fake nipplegate momentAnne in Les Mis Fantine vibes…People Magazine cover July 2008: “The Princess and the Con Man”Lip Sync Battle: Anne Hathaway “Wrecking Ball” (2015)Anne on Mark Maron (2017)Anne at Cannes 2022 (internet-breaking)Anne in Interview Mag (2022)Anne and Emily Blunt Variety Actors on Actors (2024)Anne recent Vogue profile (2025)Mother Mary preview (2026)STARGIRL episode on Bianca Giaever (2023)

Disney Moms Gone Wrong
The Devil Wears Prada: Ambition, Power, and the Price Tag Nobody Talks About

Disney Moms Gone Wrong

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 4, 2026 56:16


Susan and Diana, and they go all in on The Devil Wears Prada with a feminist lens. From Miranda Priestly as “boss goals” vs “system survivor,” to Andy's relationships cracking under the weight of ambition, this conversation gets real about emotional labor, workplace expectations, and how often women are judged no matter what choice they make. They also hit the fashion industry angle, body standards, and why this movie still lands so hard when you've lived any version of that job life.Content note: adult language.00:00 Welcome back, short staffed energy, and what kind of week this has been01:02 What we're drinking tonight (peppermint tea, Diet Coke survival mode)02:43 Real life updates and the chaos of trying to keep everything moving07:49 Starting the review: why The Devil Wears Prada counts here anyway08:19 Quick recap setup and first reactions09:15 First impressions, why the movie hits, and the “Princess Diaries vibes” moment10:45 Sequel talk, expectations, and why they picked this one right now13:16 Question 1: feminism and power, and whether Miranda is empowerment or compromise17:08 The “what if Miranda were a man?” reframing and how perception changes18:55 Question 2: relationships, ambition, and the way success gets treated differently27:50 Real world workplace story time: dress codes, sexism, and standing your ground35:41 Question 3: emotional labor, invisible work, and the assistant grind37:17 The scene that humanizes Miranda, plus the cost of choosing work every time43:29 Final question: is the fashion industry empowering, exploitative, or both?48:50 How this connects to leadership roles in education and who gets pushed where52:55 The vote: does it belong in the Hall of Fame?53:35 Sequel nerves and closing thoughtsThe movie still resonates because it nails the real tradeoffs of chasing a career goal, especially when the system was not built with you in mind.Miranda can read as both a villain and a mirror for what “power” looks like when women are expected to be perfect and soft at the same time.Andy's relationship storyline becomes a bigger conversation about how women's ambition gets treated like a problem to solve.Emotional labor is everywhere in this story, from anticipating needs to managing pressure while being judged for how you react to it.The fashion world in the film feels like both empowerment and control, especially around appearance and “fitting the part.”A lot of the conversation comes back to the same theme: women get punished for choices that would be praised in men.“Does Miranda represent empowerment, or does she reflect the compromises a woman makes within the patriarchal system?”“Damned if you do, damned if you don't.”“You can fire me, but then I'm just going to sue you.”“Miranda wants a steak at 9 a.m.”“Thank you for making me watch it… your girls fired up about it.”If you enjoyed this one, make sure you're subscribed so you don't miss the next review. Leave a rating and a quick review, it helps more than you think. Share the episode and tag us with #DisneyMomsGoneWrong.GeekFreaksPodcast.com is our source for any news we reference on the show. All links are listed at the end of these notes.Instagram: @geekfreakspodcastTwitter: @geekfreakspodThreads: @geekfreakspodcastFacebook: Geek Freaks PodcastPatreon: Geek Freaks PodcastGot a movie you want us to cover, or a hot take you want us to react to? Send it to us in a DM on Instagram or Threads, and we'll add it to the list.The Devil Wears Prada, Disney Moms Gone Wrong, Movie Review, Feminism, Women In Leadership, Workplace Culture, Emotional Labor, Fashion Industry, Pop Culture Podcast, Film Discussion, Motherhood, Career and AmbitionTimestamps and TopicsKey TakeawaysMemorable QuotesCall to ActionLinks and ResourcesFollow UsListener QuestionsApple Podcast Tags

Park Predators
INTRODUCING... Chameleon: The Weekly

Park Predators

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 13, 2025 33:04


Today we are bringing you stories from a slightly different side of true crime: stories about people who live by deception. Individuals who don't just tell lies but become someone else entirely. From Audiochuck and Campside Media, this is Chameleon. Each week, host and journalist Josh Dean unravels a new case that pushes the limits of human deception. Stories of imposters, shapeshifters, and master con artists who have turned illusion into a way of life.The first episode dives into the unbelievable story of Rafaello Follieri, the charming con artist who fooled everyone from Hollywood to high society. He swept a famous actress off her feet, claimed ties to powerful politicians, and convinced investors he was on a mission to save the Catholic Church's finances.Chameleon is a psychological deep dive into the human capacity for deceit, and it will make you question how well we really know the people around us. Find episode two, "The Kid Who Couldn't Stop Playing Cop," wherever you listen to podcasts. https://chameleon.simplecast.com/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The Deck
INTRODUCING... Chameleon: The Weekly

The Deck

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 13, 2025 33:01


Today we are bringing you stories from a slightly different side of true crime: stories about people who live by deception. Individuals who don't just tell lies but become someone else entirely. From Audiochuck and Campside Media, this is Chameleon. Each week, host and journalist Josh Dean unravels a new case that pushes the limits of human deception. Stories of imposters, shapeshifters, and master con artists who have turned illusion into a way of life.The first episode dives into the unbelievable story of Rafaello Follieri, the charming con artist who fooled everyone from Hollywood to high society. He swept a famous actress off her feet, claimed ties to powerful politicians, and convinced investors he was on a mission to save the Catholic Church's finances.Chameleon is a psychological deep dive into the human capacity for deceit, and it will make you question how well we really know the people around us. Find episode two, "The Kid Who Couldn't Stop Playing Cop," wherever you listen to podcasts. https://chameleon.simplecast.com/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Chameleon: Hollywood Con Queen
The Follieri Affair: Who Conned Anne Hathaway?

Chameleon: Hollywood Con Queen

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 13, 2025 31:10


He dated a Hollywood princess and claimed to be the Vatican's man in America. But Raffaello Follieri wasn't all he appeared to be. He convinced some of the world's richest people to hand over millions — before it all came crashing down. How did a charming Italian from a small town in Puglia rise to the top? Now, following deportation, is he rising again?Chameleon is a production of Campside Media and Audiochuck.Follow Chameleon on Instagram @chameleonpod Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Disney Inside Out!
Disney Detention: Report Cards Are In!

Disney Inside Out!

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 16, 2025 61:53


Send us a textSchool's in session! Ryan and Andrea sharpen their #2 pencils and hand out report cards to Disney's most famous educational institutions. From East High to that suspicious one-room schoolhouse in Pete's Dragon, get ready for the ultimate Disney school showdown—because not all classrooms are created equal.Follow us @disneyinsideoutpodcast

Shenanigans Ensue
Princess Diaries 2: Royal Engagement

Shenanigans Ensue

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2025 48:18


In this episode we talk about Princess Diaries 2: Royal Engagement!Episode includes: Another fake European country, a love third wheel (not triangle), how to always win at darts and a Penny Farthing dramatic chaseFind out the answer to the question no one but us asked: "If this movie was a cheese, what kind of cheese would it be?" Find us: email: shenanigansensuepod@gmail.com instagram: @shenanigansensuepod

We Love the Love
The Princess Diaries 2: Royal Engagement

We Love the Love

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 1, 2025 105:42


We're returning to Genovia after seven years away to look at the romance of Garry Marshall's 2004 Disney sequel The Princess Diaries 2: Royal Engagement! Join in as we discuss the career of screenwriter Shonda Rhimes, the long development of Princess Diaries 3, the odd CGI plane, and a lot about the Genovian government. Plus: Who would want a remote control closet? Why is Genovia's anthem so similar to Canada's? Why didn't PD3 happen sooner? And, most importantly, why does Genovia have so many orphans? Make sure to rate, review, and subscribe! Next week: Juno (2007)----------------------------------------------------Key sources and links for this episode:"Anne Hathaway: The Reluctant Princess" (The Independent)"Anne Hathaway on Ella Enchanted and Her Princess Roles" (ThoughtCo)"Julie Andrews to Sing in Diaries 2" (LA Times)"John Rhys-Davies on Gimli, Brexit, and Rural Hell" (RNZ)"The Most Popular Wine Glass in the Country has Scandal to Thank" (VinePair)"Cash Rules Everything about Ellen Pompeo Staying on Grey's Anatomy" (Vulture)"Irish Wish is a Crypto-Fascist, AI-Generated Harbinger of Doom" (Vulture)

We Love the Love
The War of the Roses

We Love the Love

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2025 61:17


In honor of The Roses (in theaters now), we're taking a look at the 1989 adaptation of the same novel, Danny DeVito's The War of the Roses, starring Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner. Join in as we discuss the movie's odd framing device, the 1989 Golden Globe slate, the plight of the American housewife, and movies we watched in high school. Plus: What was Barbara's goal in seducing DeVito's character? How did that chandelier last so long? Why is this movie so popular in Germany? And, most importantly, was Barbara right about giving kids candy? Make sure to rate, review, and subscribe! Next week: The Princess Diaries 2: Royal Engagement (2004)-----------------------------------------------Key sources and links for this episode:Roger Ebert's three-star reviewThe War of the Roses in the AFI Catalog"In Conversation: Kathleen Turner" (Vulture)"Love and Hate" (New York Times)"The Truth about Danny DeVito and Michael Douglas's Time as Roommates" (The List)“I'm the Judge Who Approved the Custody Arrangement in The Parent Trap, But in My Defense, I Didn't Think The Would Go to the Same Camp” (McSweeney's)The Simpsons in "Family Therapy," the short that preceded The War of the Roses in theaters (YouTube)

A Tripp Through Comedy
The Princess Diaries

A Tripp Through Comedy

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 28, 2025 72:13


Our exit today has us discovering our royal roots. This week, we are talking about The Princess Diaries, written by Gina Wendkos and directed by Garry Marshall.Along the way, we of course talk about the debut performance of Anne Hathaway and a career return to Disney for Julie Andrews. But we also discuss Andrews' contemporaries Angela Lansbury and Audrey Hepburn, animated films turned stage musicals, Mandy Moore, the teen stars of this time period, San Francisco movies, trolley cars, and debate how good a friend Lily actually is!Plus, Tripp still can't let go of Hector Elizondo's product placement in Runaway Bride!Thememusic by Jonworthymusic.Powered by RiversideFM.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CFF Films⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ with Ross and friends.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Movies We've Covered on the Show⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on Letterboxd.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Movies Recommended on the Show⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ on Letterboxd.

All Things Cozy
175 - Not Another Cozy Teen Movie

All Things Cozy

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2025 46:51


Matt and Gillian try to make fetch happen with a double feature of Freaky Friday (2003) and its long-awaited sequel Freakier Friday (2025) before whipping out their Blockbuster cards to revisit formative teen classics like Clueless, The Princess Diaries, and more. It's all that and a complimentary bag of popcorn from IPIC. Cozy in the News Every Day Action Turns Movie Set Leftovers Into Life-saving Meals Amsterdam Prevents Cat Drownings Matt's Teen Movie Picks Clueless Never Been Kissed Drop Dead Gorgeous The Perks of Being a Wallflower Love, Simon Eighth Grade Bottoms Gillian's Teen Movie Picks 13 Going on 30 Saved The Princess Diaries She's the Man You Are So Not Invited to My Bat Mitzvah To All the Boys I've Loved Before Booksmart Candle Review Asian Boba Girl's Fortune Cookie Candle Support All Things Cozy by joining our Patreon and following us on Facebook, Instagram, and Bluesky.

Movies Last Night
August 2025 Episode One

Movies Last Night

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 16, 2025 97:24


Movies covered in this episode include, The Phoenician Scheme, Drop, The Pickup, Borderline, The Woman In The Yard, The Monkey, The Ballad of Wallis Island, It's Never Over Jeff Buckley, The Naked Gun, Superman, Phone Booth, The Fantastic Four, Just My Luck, The Princess Diaries 1 & 2. Amongst others.

I Hate It But I Love It
443: The Princess Diaries

I Hate It But I Love It

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2025 66:13


This week, Kat and Jocelyn are unexpectedly charmed by THE PRINCESS DIARIES! We discuss how Genovia is a nation of procrastinators, how Mia's mom has Lorelai Gilmore energy (and not in a good way), and how Lilly's GOTTA take it down a notch.   This episode brought to you by MasterClass. With classes on a variety of topics, all taught by world class masters at the top of their fields. Fantastic for yourself and as a gift. Head over to www.masterclass.com/ihateit to get 15% off any annual membership.   Produced by Andrew Ivimey as part of The From Superheroes Network   Visit www.FromSuperheroes.com for more podcasts, articles, video series, web comics, and more.

What We're Watching
The Princess Diaries 2: Chris Pine showed up and so did our feelings

What We're Watching

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2025 73:52


Happy 2 years of What We're Watching! Megan and Jeni are celebrating their second Anne-iversary by recapping an Anne Hathaway movie (as is the tradition!) This one is The Princess Diaries 2: Royal Engagement – the movie that gave us mattress surfing and our very first glimpse of Chris Pine's face. They're talking about the cast, the iconic creative team, and everything we know so far about The Princess Diaries 3.Follow us on social!Instagram: ⁠@whatwerewatchingpod⁠ TikTok: @whatwerewatchingpod

JoJo's Bizarre Podcast
Ep. 434 - Steve Stevenson (Lazarus Eps. 4-6)

JoJo's Bizarre Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 23, 2025 55:12


We continue with Lazarus on the podcast this week; talking episodes 4-6. We also talk about New Jersey musicians, non-NJ-musicians like Autechre & Eminem, The Princess Diaries, and when AI is at fault. | Follow us on Apple Podcasts | Support us on Patreon | Follow us on BlueSky | We're on Threads/Instagram | Subscribe to us on YouTube | Join the fan Discord

In VOGUE: The 1990s
Anne Hathaway Is Vogue's August Cover Star!

In VOGUE: The 1990s

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 7, 2025 24:23


It's hard to believe that after a career as iconic as Anne Hathaway's—whether as the ambitious intern in The Devil Wears Prada, the beloved royal in The Princess Diaries, or the tormented Fantine in Les Misérables—her most challenging role, by her own admission, is still to come. The August cover star of Vogue, Hathaway opens up to writer Maya Singer about transforming into a global pop sensation in the upcoming film Mother Mary. On this episode of The Run-Through, Chloe and Vogue's Deputy Editor Taylor Antrim chat with Maya about what it was like spending time with Anne (they bonded over their favorite Criterion Collection films), what this transformative moment in her career means, and her adorable friendship with actor Bradley Cooper.  Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

The Bobby Bones Show
MOVIE MIKE: Robert Schwartzman on The Princess Diaries, his uncle Francis Ford Coppola and new ‘The Zombies' Documentary  + Movie Review: Thunderbolts* aka The New Avengers + Trailer Park: Will The Rock Win An Oscar for ‘The Smashing Machine'?

The Bobby Bones Show

Play Episode Listen Later May 17, 2025 54:12 Transcription Available


Mike talks to Robert Schwartzman (director, actor, musician) about his new documentary Hung Up On A Dream: The Zombies Documentary in theaters now. Robert talks about growing up in a musical household, his band Rooney getting featured on The O.C., auditioning for The Princess Diaries with Anne Hathaway, his brother Jason Schwartzman and what he learned from his uncle, legendary director Francis Ford Coppola. Robert also talks about his new documentary Hung Up on a Dream about The Zombies, the ups and downs of their career, the parallels between their story and his band, and why it’s important to support independent movies. In the Movie Review, Mike talks about Thunderbolts* aka The New Avengers. He shares why it reminded him of Phase 1, why Florence Pugh is the best actor in Marvel, and his theory as to why Marvel spoiled their own movie so quickly! He also shares where it ranks in Phase 5 of the MCU and he predicts what will be the best movie of Phase 6. In the Trailer Park, Mike talks about “The Smashing Machine” Starring The Rock. It’s a gritty A24 biopic about UFC champ Mark Kerr. Will The Rock have a chance to be nominated or even win an Oscar for the role? Hung Up on a Dream: The Zombies Documentary is in theaters NOW! Get tickets HERE New Episodes Every Monday! Watch on YouTube: @MikeDeestro Follow Mike on TikTok: @mikedeestro Follow Mike on Instagram: @mikedeestro Follow Mike on X: @mikedeestro Follow Mike on Letterboxd: @mikedeestro Email: MovieMikeD@gmail.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

PS I Hate This Movie
089 - The Princess Diaries

PS I Hate This Movie

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 25, 2025 89:54


We take a realistic look into the unrealistic world of romantic comedies that we LOVE to hate. This Week -The Princess Diaries (2001)Starring: Anne Hathaway, Julie Andrews, Hector Elizondo A wonderful movie where all of the adults suck. We ask the tough questions this week…Is Summer 2025 the Summer of Helen Thermopolis? What made up country should Sarah be royalty in? And how much money should Mia have to pay, in order to get her vehicle up and running? TO THE HEIGLMETER!!A scale for movies. 5 Heigls = worst movie you've ever seen in your life, most painful. 1 Heigl = not bad. Sarah: 0 Heigls James: 195 Heigls. Follow us on Social Media! Instagram: @yougotheigld Sarah - Instagram: @sarahhisfunnyThreads: @sarahhisfunnyBuy Sarah's books on Amazon! About FrankieBook It! A Book Podcast James -Instagram: @jamespietragalloThreads: @jamespietragalloListen to James's other podcasts!Crime in Sports PodcastSmall Town Murder PodcastYour Stupid Opinions Podcast Patreon.com/yougotheigld for upcoming bonus content PayPal: yougotheigld@gmail.com We have merchandise!heiglyourself.threadless.com RATE and REVIEW on Apple Podcasts! Are you still reading this? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.