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How many probe droids returned to Darth Maul on Tatooine? What was Watto's objection to honoring his bet with Qui-Gon Jinn? We ask these and other questions in this round of The Phantom Menace Trivia. This round of trivia corresponds to the portion of The Phantom Menace that runs from 1:10:04 to 1:22:45. In this fully armed and operational episode of Podcast Stardust, we are answering such trivia questions as: Which podracer is seen being carried on a stretcher inside the hangar after the race? What does Qui-Gon promise Shmi before they leave? What does Anakin promise C-3PO before he leaves? And more. For more The Phantom Menace trivia, check out episode 765. Thanks for joining us for another episode! Subscribe to Podcast Stardust for all your Star Wars news, reviews, and discussion wherever you get your podcasts. And please leave us a five star review on Apple Podcasts. Find Jay and her cosplay adventures on J.Snips Cosplay on Instagram. Join us for real time discussion on the RetroZap Discord Server here: RetroZap Discord. Follow us on social media: Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | YouTube. T-shirts, hoodies, stickers, masks, and posters are available on TeePublic. Find all episodes on RetroZap.com.
Anakin Skywalker and Luke Skywalker experienced love in very different ways during their childhoods. As a young child, Anakin felt genuine love from his mother Shmi, but when he reached the Jedi Temple he didn't feel that same love from the adults around him. Luke was raised by a loving (and sometimes stern) aunt and uncle, and then felt loved and valued by the new friends he met later on. How did the ways they were loved influence Anakin's and Luke's destinies? We take a deep dive on Episode 229. We begin the show by discussing the new trailer for Skeleton Crew. We would be honored (and feel loved) if you would join us! X: @idiotsarraypod Facebook: Idiot's Array Podcast Email: idiotsarraypodcast@gmail.com Instagram: @idiotsarraypodcast
There are many well-known and celebrated heroes in the Star Wars saga, and there are also many unsung heroes who often get overlooked. On Episode 227, we honor those unsung heroes from across the galaxy. To begin the show, we respond to listener emails and recap our weekend at Fan X in Salt Lake City. All of this and much more! We would be honored by your presence. X: @idiotsarraypod Facebook: Idiot's Array Podcast Email: idiotsarraypodcast@gmail.com Instagram: @idiotsarraypodcast
Wir sprechen ausführlich über StarWars: Episode I – Die dunkle Bedrohung. Wir werden den Film in den Kontext seiner Zeit betrachten, ihn jedoch auch hin und wieder herauslösen um ihn mit der Lupe heutiger Maßstäbe zu betrachten. Und natürlich werden wir auch viel inhaltlich zur Lore und dem Kanon diskutieren.Heute sprechen wir über Anakin und Shmi und ihr Leben als Sklaven auf Tatooine, die Macht und wir nähern uns dem großen jährlichen Podrennen Boonta-Eve-Classic.Hast du konstruktives Feedback? Anregungen und oder Fragen? Dann schreibe uns einfach auf Instagram oder Nutze die Fragen-Funktion auf Spotify
In light of a slow news week, we return to trivia for The Phantom Menace. These questions largely focus on Qui-Gon's interactions with Watto in his shop. In this fully armed and operational episode of Podcast Stardust, we discuss: Questions about the parts that Qui-Gon tries to buy from Watto, What kind of currency and how much of it that Qui-Gon has, Jar Jar's antics in Watto's shop while Qui-Gon bargains with Watto, Anakin's discussion with Padmé, Trivia surrounding Sebulba's introduction, Questions about Qui-Gon, Jar Jar, and Padmé's introduction to Shmi, and Darth Sidious's instructions for Darth Maul. For more The Phantom Menace trivia, check out episodes 741, 742, and 743. Thanks for joining us for another episode! Subscribe to Podcast Stardust for all your Star Wars news, reviews, and discussion wherever you get your podcasts. And please leave us a five star review on Apple Podcasts. Get your Ultimate Lightsaber 2.0 from SaberMasters and use our referral code (STARDUST) at checkout for $10 off. Head to www.sabermasters.com/discount/stardust Find Jay and her cosplay adventures on J.Snips Cosplay on Instagram. Join us for real time discussion on the RetroZap Discord Server here: RetroZap Discord. Follow us on social media: Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | YouTube. T-shirts, hoodies, stickers, masks, and posters are available on TeePublic. Find all episodes on RetroZap.com.
Qui-Gon Jinn and Anakin Skywalker put their plan to enter the Boonta Eve Podrace and Qui-Gon explores Anakin's origins with Shmi in this segment from The Phantom Menace. Greg McLaughlin from The Rebel Base Card Podcast joins us for this discussion. The segment of the film we discuss runs from 44:14 to 55:02.. In this fully armed and operational episode of Podcast Stardust, we discuss: Greg's first experiences with this movie, his favorite scenes, and favorite characters, The deal that Qui-Gon makes with Watto to get Anakin into the Boonta Eve Podrace and some of the ethics around Qui-Gon's actions, The conversation between Qui-Gon and Shmi Skywalker about where Anakin came from, his personality, and his abilities, Anakin's friends and preparing his pod for the big race, Darth Maul's arrival on Tatooine, The introduction of the concept of midi-chlorians, and Qui-Gon's bet with Watto before the podrace begins. Check out the prior entry in this series in episode 717. Thanks for joining us for another episode! Subscribe to Podcast Stardust for all your Star Wars news, reviews, and discussion wherever you get your podcasts. And please leave us a five star review on Apple Podcasts. Get your Ultimate Lightsaber 2.0 from SaberMasters and use our referral code (STARDUST) at checkout for $10 off. Head to www.sabermasters.com/discount/stardust Find Jay and her cosplay adventures on J.Snips Cosplay on Instagram. Join us for real time discussion on the RetroZap Discord Server here: RetroZap Discord. Follow us on social media: Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | YouTube. T-shirts, hoodies, stickers, masks, and posters are available on TeePublic. Find all episodes on RetroZap.com.
Qui-Gon Jinn and Anakin Skywalker put their plan to enter the Boonta Eve Podrace and Qui-Gon explores Anakin's origins with Shmi in this segment from The Phantom Menace.
Fittingly time, Marvel's The Phantom Menace Anniversary Special #1 (it's a one-shot) is out this week just ahead of Star Wars Day. It provides a satisfying look at the 1999 film, showing us key parts of the story that were only alluded to in the movie. Greg Pak, Will Sliney, Guru e-FX and VC's Joe Caramagna deliver a solidly entertaining -- and informative -- issue.Comics Discussed This Week:The Phantom Menace Anniversary Special #1 (10:45)Star Wars Comics New to Marvel Unlimited This Week:Thrawn Alliances #1 (of 4)News: Star Wars: Vader's Castle the Deluxe Library Collection has been pushed back a week to Oct. 1 from Sept. 24. It collects Tales From Vader's Castle, Return to Vader's Castle, Shadow of Vader's Castle, Ghosts of Vader's Castle and 2019's FCBD Issue story "Droid Hunters."In his latest newsletter (if you haven't yet subscribed, you should -- https://mailchi.mp/f0a5b413051c/charlessoule), Charles Soule provides an intriguing update on his work on Star Wars' The High Republic.The June Pride variants are starting to filter out into the world. Check the Facebook page or Twitter feed to see them as they're released.Free Comic Book Day is May 4. Marvel will have Star Wars/Darth Vader #1 and Dark Horse Young Jedi Adventures.Matt joined the This Is Lit podcast to talk about Star Wars comics. You can listen (and subscribe) here.Upcoming Star Wars comics, graphic novels and omnibuses:May 4 _ Young Jedi Adventures (FCBD), Star Wars #1 (FCBD)May 8 _ Darth Vader #46, The High Republic Phase III #7May 15 _ Saber for Hire #2 (of 4), Mace Windu #4 (of 4) May 21 _ Star Wars Legends Epic Collection: The Old Republic, Vol. 1 NEW PRINTING (Collects Knights of the Old Republic 1-18 and material from Kings of the Old Republic/Rebellion 0) May 22 _ Star Wars #46, The High Republic Adventures Phase III #6May 29 _ Darth Maul: Black, White & Red #2 (of 4), Jango Fett #3 (of 4)June 5 _ Star Wars #47, The High Republic Phase III #8, Darth Maul: Black, White & Red #1 (2nd Printing) June 11 _ Star Wars Legends: The New Republic Omnibus, Vol. 2 (Collects Star Wars: The Jabba Tape; Heir to the Empire 1-6, Dark Force Rising 1-6, The Last Command 1-6. Dark Empire 1-6, Dark Empire II 1-6), Empire's End 1-2, Boba Fett -- Twin Engines of Destruction, Bounty on Bar-Kooda, When the Fat Lady Swings, Murder Most Foul and Agent of Doom, Star Wars Handbook 3 and material from Star Wars Tales 1, 3-5, 10, 14, 20 and 22); Obi-Wan Kenobi Adaptation TPB (Collects 1-6); Hyperspace Stories Vol. 3 TPB "Light and Shadow" (Collects 9-12); The High Republic Phase III TPB, Vol. 1 (Collects 1-4, Star Wars: Revelations One-Shot The High Republic Story); Star Wars Legends: The Rebellion, Vol. 2 Omnibus (Collects Star Wars: River of Chaos (1995) 1-4; Star Wars: Empire (2002) 28-40; Star Wars: Rebellion (2006) 1-16; Star Wars: Boba Fett – Overkill (2006) 1; Star Wars: Boba Fett (1997) 1/2; Star Wars: Splinter of the Mind's Eye (1995) 1-4; material from Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic/Rebellion (2006) 0; Star Wars Tales (1999) 3, 15, 17, 21)June 12 _ The High Republic Adventures Phase III #7, Darth Vader #47June 19 _ Saber for Hire #3 (of 4), Jango Fett #4 (of 4)June 26 _ Darth Maul: Black, White & Red #3 (of 4) July 3 _ Inquisitors #1 (of 4)July 10 _ Ahsoka #1 (of 8)July 16 _ Star Wars Legends: The Thrawn Trilogy TPBJuly 17 _ The High Republic Adventures Phase III #8, Star Wars #48July 23 _ Star Wars Legends: Tales of the Jedi omnibus. (Collects Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi - Force Storm 1-5, Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi - Prisoner of Bogan 1-5, Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi - Force War 1-5, Star Wars: Dawn of the Jedi 0, Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi - The Golden Age of the Sith 0-5, Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi - The Fall of the Sith Empire 1-5, Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi 1-5, Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi - The Freedon Nadd Uprising 1-2, Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi - Dark Lords of the Sith 1-6, Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi - The Sith War 1-6, Star Wars: Tales of the Jedi - Redemption 1-5, material from Star Wars Tales 23 and Dark Horse Comics 7-9)July 24 _ Saber for Hire #4 (of 4), Darth Vader #48July 30 _ Star Wars Modern Era Epic Collection: Skywalker Strikes (Collects Star Wars (2015) 1-14, 1 Director's Cut, Vader Down 1, Darth Vader 13-15) July 31 _ Darth Maul: Black, White and Red #4 (of 4) Aug. 14 _ The High Republic Adventures Phase III #9 Aug. 20 _ Mace Windu TPB (Collects 1-4, Story from Revelations (2023) Aug. 21 _ The High Republic Adventures — Echoes of Fear #1 (of 4) Aug. 27 _ The High Republic Adventures Phase III Vol. 1 TPB (Collects 1-5) Aug. 28 _ The High Republic Adventures Phase III — Crash and Burn One-Shot Sept. 3 _ Star Wars Legends Epic Collection: The Rebellion Vol. 6, Star Wars, Vol. 8 “The Sith and the Skywalker” TPB (Collects 42-45, material from Revelations (2023) #1 and Free Comic Book Day 2024: Star Wars)Sept. 10 _ Darth Vader, Vol. 9 “Rise of the Schism Imperial” TPB (Collects 42-45, The Phantom Menace 25th Anniversary Special and material from Revelations (2023) #1)Sept. 17 _ Star Wars: Thrawn Alliances TPB (Collects 1-4)Oct. 1 _ Star Wars: Vader's Castle The Deluxe Library Collection (Collects Tales From Vader's Castle, Return to Vader's Castle, Shadow of Vader's Castle, Ghosts of Vader's Castle and 2019 FCBD Issue story "Droid Hunters")Oct. 29 _ Star Wars Legends Epic Collection: The New Republic, Vol. 8Nov. 12 _ Star Wars Legends Epic Collection: The Original Marvel Years — Droids & Ewoks; Star Wars: The High Republic Phase II — Quest of the Jedi OmnibusNov. 19 _ The High Republic Phase III Vol. 2, “The Hunted” TPB (Collects 5-8, Star Wars: The Acolyte #1)Nov. 26 _ Star Wars: Darth Vader Modern Era Epic Collection: Shadows and Secrets (Collects 1-12, Director's Cut 1, Darth Vader Annual 1); Saber for Hire TPB (Collects 1-4)Dec. 3 _ Darth Vader: Black, White Red TPB (Collects 1-4), Star Wars Vol. 9 TPB (Collects 46-50)Dec. 17 _ Star Wars Legends Epic Collection: The Empire, Vol. 2 New Printing (Collects Dark Times 6-17, Dark Times - Blue Harvest 0 and Out of the Wilderness 1-5)Dec. 24 _ Star Wars Legends: The Empire Omnibus, Vol. 3 (Collects Jabba the Hutt - The Gaar Suppoon Hit 1, Jabba the Hutt - The Hunger of Princess Nampi 1,Jabba the Hutt - The Dynasty Trap 1, Jabba the Hutt - Betrayal1, Free Comic Book Day 2012: Star Wars, Boba Fett - Enemy of the Empire 1-4, Agent of the Empire - Iron Eclipse 1-5, Agent of the Empire - Hard Targets 1-5, The Force Unleashed, The Force Unleashed II, Star Wars: Blood Ties 1-4, Star Wars: Blood Ties - Boba Fett Is Dead 1-4, Star Wars: Empire 1-4; material from Star Wars Tales 7, 11, 15-16, 18-20; A Decade of Dark Horse 2)Dec. 31 _ Darth Vader (Vol. 3) TPB (Collects 46-50, Free Comic Book Day 2024: Star Wars #1 Darth Vader Story) Jan. 22 _ The High Republic Adventures Phase III TPB Vol. 2 (Collects 6-10)Jan. 29 _ Hyperspace Stories: Qui-Gon original graphic novel
In part four of our series celebrating The Phantom Menace, we meet Anakin Skywalker, Watto, Shmi Skywalker, Threepio, and Sebulba as Qui-Gon looks for a way to acquire the parts they need. Gregg Cass, also known as Eye on Canon, joins us for this discussion. The segment of the film we discuss runs from 31:41 to 44:13. In this fully armed and operational episode of Podcast Stardust, we discuss: Greg's early experiences with The Phantom Menace and some of his collectibles, The introduction of Anakin Skywalker and his introduction to Padmé, her response, and what the meeting says about them both, The first appearance of Watto and Qui-Gon's attempt to use a Jedi mind trick on him, Sebulba's introduction and rivalry with Anakin Skywalker, The Skywalker homestead and Shmi's first appearances, The first appearance of C-3PO and his appearance, Darth Sidious and Darth Maul talking before Darth Maul leaves for Tatooine, and Anakin's plan to participate in the podrace and win the money needed to repair Padmé's ship. Find the prior episode in this series in episode 705. Thanks for joining us for another episode! Subscribe to Podcast Stardust for all your Star Wars news, reviews, and discussion wherever you get your podcasts. And please leave us a five star review on Apple Podcasts. Get your Ultimate Lightsaber 2.0 from SaberMasters and use our referral code (STARDUST) at checkout for $10 off. Head to www.sabermasters.com/discount/stardust Find Jay and her cosplay adventures on J.Snips Cosplay on Instagram. Join us for real time discussion on the RetroZap Discord Server here: RetroZap Discord. Follow us on social media: Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | YouTube. T-shirts, hoodies, stickers, masks, and posters are available on TeePublic. Find all episodes on RetroZap.com.
In this deleted scene from Star Wars Episode 1 The Phantom Menace, we get to see Qui-Gon Jinn and Anakin Skywalker's journey as they headed back outside of Mos Espa (where Anakin and Shmi lived) to get to the ship with Obi-Wan and Padme. It was during this walk back just moments after Anakin said goodbye to his mother, that they were being followed by Darth Maul's probe droid the DRK-1 (Dark Eye Probe Droid) in which Qui-Gon's Jedi reflexes sensed it and struck it down with his green lightsaber. Moments later we would see Darth Maul vs Qui-Gon Jinn and the infamous "Anakin! Drop!" line. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What exactly did the Tusken Raiders do to Shmi Skywalker in Attack of the Clones? I gathered as much info as I could about what happened to Shmi while she was a slave to the Sand People. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In Star Wars Revenge of the Sith we are led to believe that Darth Plagueis the Wise created Anakin. However, in the novel Darth Plagueis, the story goes quite differently than most may assume. This episode covers why Shmi was/was not chosen and of all places, why Tatooine? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In the new canon Vader comics, we got a very interesting scene with Palpatine and Anakin's mother (Shmi) where we see him controlling the dark side of the force around her as Anakin is being created. This led MANY fans (including me) and articles to lean towards believing Lucasfilm had just revealed Anakin's father as Palpatine himself. This has led to many fans saying Rey and Kylo could be related in Rise of Skywalker. We now know, officially, that this is not the case. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Watto...what an interesting Star Wars creature...we first see him in The Phantom Menace, then again in Attack of the Clones, but not Revenge of the Sith. Here are 10 totally unknown facts about Watto, Qui-Gon Jinn, Anakin, Anakin's mother (Shmi) and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In today's fan-fiction which has an early exclusive release here on Spotify, let's dive deep into the what if scenario if the Jedi Council KNEW about Anakin's fall to the dark side with the Tusken Raiders on Tatooine after Shmi passed away...How would the entirety of Star Wars play out...? Thanks for watching today's exclusive early access episode! Be sure to check the video format one on YouTube in a few days! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
So this is a discussion that I've seen quite a bit, regarding Qui-Gon being a gray jedi for various reasons but this one being one of the main ones I see brought up quite a bit. Qui-Gon used the force in the Phantom Menace to alter the fate of the chance cube, this would have changed the course of history in Star Wars as we know it if the cube had landed on Anakin's mother, Shmi, rather than on Anakin. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
A weekly magazine-style radio show featuring the voices and stories of Asians and Pacific Islanders from all corners of our community. The show is produced by a collective of media makers, deejays, and activists. Tonight on APEX Express Host Miko Lee interviews Cathy Ceniza Choy author of Asian American Histories of the United States. Show Transcripts [00:00:00] Opening: Asian Pacific expression. Unity and cultural coverage, music and calendar revisions influences Asian Pacific Islander. It's time to get on board. The Apex Express. Good evening. You're tuned in to Apex Express. [00:00:18] Jalena Keane-Lee: We're bringing you an Asian American Pacific Islander view from the Bay and around the world. [00:00:22] Miko Lee: This is Miko Lee. And in August, I had the wonderful opportunity of hosting a live event. One of the first live events. That KPFA was offering at the back room in Berkeley. And it was an interview with Catherine Cinzia Choi on her new book Asian-American histories of the United States. So take a listen to the interview. You're going to hear some clapping and some noise because it was a live audience. we hope you enjoy it and find out more information at our website kpfa.org. take a listen welcome to KPFAS live virtual event. I'm Miko Lee from apex expressed in your host for tonight. A big round of applause to our producers of K PFA events that are here. Kevin Hunt, Sanger, and Brandy Howell in the back of the room. Wow, it's so great to be in front of a live audience. Thank you to Sam Rudin and the back room. This amazing glorious space for hosting us this live evening. Okay. Y'all we're coming back. We're coming out. We're still pandemic land. People are in their beautiful masks, but we're coming back and KPFA has a few more upcoming events. I wanna do a land acknowledgement, and I want to acknowledge that K P F a is located on unseated, Cho Chino speaking, Lonni land known as the Huk, as journalists and community members. We have the responsibility to engage critically with the legacy of colonists. Colonialist violence and to uplift the active and ongoing indigenous struggles connected to the land that we are gathered on tonight. If you wanna check out more, go to native land dot California, and if you live in the east bay, I'm asking, do you pay the Shmi land tax, which is led by indigenous women, find out more about Ante's work of reation and returning in indigenous lands to the people establishing a cemetery to reinter stolen alone, ancestral remains and building urban gardens, community centers and ceremonial spaces. So current and future generations of indigenous people can thrive in the bay area. Thank you so much for joining us. We are honored tonight to welcome author Cathy Cenzia Choy. Cathy is currently a professor of ethnic studies at our own UC Berkeley, and she has published multiple books around Asian American identity. And is here tonight to chat with us about her latest book, Asian American histories of the United States. Welcome Cathy. Yes. Thank you. Okay. I'm gonna do anode to the great poet Chinaka Hodges, and ask, who are your people and where do you come from? [00:03:19] Cathy Cenzia Choy: I am the daughter of Filipino immigrants born and raised in New York city. I've been in Berkeley since 2004, and UC Berkeley has been a very important institution and community for me. And it's just such an honor to be. Your presence today and tonight I wanna thank you Miko for taking the time to, to host this. I wanna acknowledge my family and friends who are in the audience, my husband and my daughter are here. And I'm so pleased about that. And I feel like I'm with my people right now. [00:04:03] Miko Lee: what are the legacies that you carry with you from your ancestors? [00:04:11] Cathy Cenzia Choy: Wow. These are really Deep questions. I know. I feel like I care, even though sometimes I'm not aware. All the details. I feel like I carry the histories of my ancestors, even though, as I write in the book. So many of us in including myself didn't grow up knowing much about Asian American history because it wasn't taught to us in our schools. And even with that I feel my ancestors' presence with me. And I especially thank my mother Petri, za and other family members for also making that presence alive in so many ways while I was growing [00:04:57] Miko Lee: up in New York city. And are there certain elements that you carry with you on the daily? [00:05:05] Cathy Cenzia Choy: I don't know. In terms of the daily, because now I'm at this point in my life where I've had many experiences and I. Learned more to own my voice. And I feel owning that voice like through speaking and through writing is something I've learned and carried from them. But it took me also some time to, to get to this point. And even though I've talked to so many people in public spaces I always feel still some, some. nerves every time. [00:05:50] Miko Lee: So maybe it's self-expression and passing on the torch to the next generation around storytelling, around [00:05:56] Cathy Cenzia Choy: teaching. Absolutely. I think one of the things that I try to impart in, in my teaching at UC Berkeley at university of Minnesota twin cities, where I had taught for six years prior to coming to Berkeley, I try to impart that, that lesson of learning to, to cultivate your confidence and to own your voice. [00:06:19] Miko Lee: Your book is such an interesting collection because you're talking about some deep Asian American history stories, and then you're intertwining it with your own personal stories. And I wonder if you could speak a little bit more about your personal family story and your her story and how that intertwines with Asian American, her story. [00:06:39] Cathy Cenzia Choy: One of the things that is different from in terms of this book compared to my previous two books, is that it was intended for a very broad audience. And given what Asian Americans have been going through in this country since 2020 in many ways it was also born out of some very difficult, challenging circumstances. And I've experienced like many Asian Americans have experienced since 2020, a level of fear and anxiety and grief, at what has been happening with the surgeon anti-Asian violence, its relation to coronavirus related anti-Asian racism and. all of this has infused a different approach to writing in this book. And I write in the first person, the second person in one chapter on, on world war II. And I write in the more traditional third person which is typical and scholarly history books. So when I write in the first person, I share personal experiences that are intertwined to these histories. And this includes some of the fear and anxiety I was already mentioning. And that concern about the surge in anti-Asian violence and that when I see those stories on the media I see my family members, I see my elders and. in the book. I talk about how I've talked to my children and I realize that they see me. And so that's one personal experience, but my husband is. And his family's history is also on the, in the book. There's one chapter titled 19, 19 declaration of independence and 1919, that declaration of independence is referring to the declaration of. Korean independence, both in Korea against Japanese imperialism but also a Korean Congress that came to Philadelphia in April 19, 19. And my husband's parents on his father's side were among those Korean independence activists in the early 20th century. And I share experiences also how we've tried to pass on Asian American history to our children. And I talk about a moment where we brought our son to the Japanese American Memorial garden in tan Farran, which is now a shopping mall, but used to be a horse racing track and then was converted into an assembly center or what they would call a relocation center which forcibly relocated Japanese Americans here in, in the bay area there before. Forcibly incarcerating them in internment camps during world Wari. So there's quite a bit of my history, my family's history in this, even though the, of, it's not the, all of the histories that I talked about, you're [00:09:50] Miko Lee: telling part of your family stories, but then you're also telling a bunch of personal stories, small stories of people to help really illuminate a moment in history. And I'm wondering how you went about the process of selecting those individual stories to help shed light on a bigger [00:10:03] Cathy Cenzia Choy: issue. Yeah that's a great question. I think that's one of the challenges with history, which has story in it history and is about communicating stories and the choices we make matter. So I chose stories that I felt reflected key moments events, groups in Asian American histories over the past almost 200 years. And the idea also was that in selecting these stories, many of which came from research, I had done in the past and also my teaching. But I also wanted to create this feeling in the book of engaging and inviting readers to think about what stories would they want to include and not to cut it off and say, these are the stories we need to know, but rather these are the stories of. People's families and communities. And what are the stories of your families and communities? [00:11:09] Miko Lee: So in a way, it's an invitation for the readers and the audience members to look at your personal stories and how they intertwine with Asian American [00:11:17] Cathy Cenzia Choy: history. Yes. I hope that one of my hopes is that the book is as accessible as possible and that it is shared across an incredibly diverse audience. Also multi-generational and it would mean a great deal to me, for people to share the histories in this book with their elders and people of their generation and younger generations. [00:11:44] Miko Lee: And speaking of stories and connections, one of the biggest connections of a API community is around our food. people. It doesn't matter where you are, people know about Asian food and Asian Pacific Islander food. And you have a whole section in your book that is an interlude around food. And I'm wondering if you can just read the bolded sections of the interlude to the audience as a teaser, and then we'll talk about it some [00:12:08] Cathy Cenzia Choy: more. Okay. Yes. I'd love that. Okay. We, [00:12:13] Miko Lee: so for those of you that haven't read the book, , here's a little bit of a teaser of what the book has to offer Yes. And just the fact there, there's an interlude in the book. Which is also do you wanna talk about that now or after you pretty different? [00:12:19] Cathy Cenzia Choy: It's just it was, getting at a point that I had made earlier about how I wanted to write differently. I also felt compelled to write differently. And there's an interlude in the book and it's entitled 1965 reprise the faces behind the food. And I'm going to read an abridged version because this way of reading, it makes it like a shout out poem.yeah. So 1965 reprise the faces behind the food. This is for the Asian American faces behind the food that nourishes Americans and enriches American cuisine. The general public knows. So little about Asian American people, but our food is everywhere at one's exotic and mainstream. This is for Larry. I Italy on the Filipino American farm workers who started the grape strike in Delano, California in 1965. This is for Dawn Baan and those who champion labor history. This is for the over 300,000 Asian migrants, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and Filipino, whose labor made sugar production, Hawaii top industry. This is for the Chinese workers who transformed tens of thousands of acres of California, swamp land into airable land, and who applied their ingenuity to orchards from Oregon to Florida. This is for the Chinese, Japanese and Filipino workers in the canned salmon industry of the Pacific Northwest. This is for the Japanese fruit and vegetable farmers. This is for the Asian, Indian, agricultural workers. Many of whom found work in California's fields in the early century. This is for the restaurant workers like chinch wing, who started working at an Americanized Chinese restaurant in 1936 in New York city. This is for the food service workers in cafeteria. This is for the writer and migrant worker, Carlos bloon. This is for de leaping sound who in 1956 became the first person of Asian descent elected to serve as a us representative and champion the farmers of his Southern California district. This is for Thai American. Who have a complicated relationship with Thai food because they are often conflated with it. This is for the monos. Mono is a term that conveys respect for Filipino elders in the 1920s and 1930s, they followed the crops from California to the Pacific Northwest. The Mons demonstrated their militancy. The 1965 grape strike was not an exception, but rather a singular point on a continuum. In the age of COVID 19 Asian Americans continued to be the many faces behind the food, using their creativity and leadership to promote communal care during a critical time. This is for Hannah DRA, a self-identified Pakistani American Muslim, and the co-founder of transformation. A technology platform that redistributes leftover, prepared food from restaurants and companies to places that need them like homeless shelters. This is for heart of dinner, whose mission is to nourish New York, city's Asian elders with love and food every week, the irony of Asian Americans producing America's food and enlivening, the overall food experience and the context of hate and violence has not been lost on them historically. And in the present day in March, 2021, people gathered at North Dakota state university in Fargo to protest against anti-Asian hatred. One poster red love us. Like you love our food. [00:16:51] Miko Lee: Thank you so much. Yes. Can make some noise. That's good. And if I may add, this is for. Adding all of your stories so that our Asian American history and tapestry can become richer and deeper. Thank you so much, Kathy, for sharing that. Now talk about why you wanted a kind of musical interlude in the middle of the book. [00:17:15] Cathy Cenzia Choy: It had to do with the histories the multiplicity that I emphasize in the book that there are multiple origins of Asian American history. And we should refer to these as Asian American histories, because my approach in the book is less about a linear, a traditional linear approach which can sometimes suggest causality or. Progress all the time and rather than take a linear approach. One of the things that's distinctive about the book is that the first substantive chapter begins with the year 2020. And the book concludes with 1869 and then each of the chapters. So it goes back in time and each of the chapters moves forward and back in time. So one of the chapters is titled 1965. And it's about the faces of post 1965 Asian America. And it's referring to the immigration and nationality act of 1965, which dramatically changed the democratic the demographics of our country. And. Yet, it was difficult to weave in seamlessly the story of Larry Italy and the Filipino farm workers and how important that grape strike was in, in Delano, California. And I thought to myself I don't ne I, I don't wanna put a, another chapter entitled 1965. So I'm gonna do, I'm gonna do this interlude and then, and write in a different way to give people a break from the style and then encourage you to give shout outs of your own. [00:18:57] Miko Lee: Thank you. Speaking of Larry Iley who in a bunch of your book, you talk about erasure or as Helen Z talks about missing in history. What are those moments that are MIH? And Larry I. Long is one of those many stories we always hear about Cezar Chavez and the great boycott when it was actually a Filipino man, Larry Ile that you write about. And I'm wondering after doing this exhaustive research for your book and as a professor, what are some kind of key missing in history moments? Do you think stand out in Asian American Pacific Islander history? [00:19:30] Cathy Cenzia Choy: There are key moments in every chapter in this book. In the first chapter on, on 2020 I talk about the disproportionate toll of COVID 19 on Filipino nurses in this country. And so one of the things that's MIH, which I've tried to address in my own research and was the topic of my first book was why and how the Philippines became the world's leading sending country of professional nurses and a specifically to, to the United States. And so in, in every chapter, the chapter after 2020 is one on 1975, and it's about Southeast Asian Americans and the refugee experience, but also the descendants of refugees in Southeast Asian immigrants. And so much of their stories are MIH because we are familiar with the Vietnam war, but often from the American perspective. And we, the. Participation of and Laosian Americans were part of a secret army and a secret war. So there's so many instances of that in every single chapter where this I, ideas of erasure secrecy being overlooked like Larry Ile who worked closely with Suor Chavez for years, they were director and assistant director of the U F w but many of us yes, know that story. [00:20:58] Miko Lee: I'm wondering if you could talk a little bit about the great former photojournalist quirky Lee and his impact, because I think one of those things about missing a history are those that have stood up to try and tell that story again, and you profile quirky. Can you tell a little bit the audience about Corky Lee and what he did. [00:21:14] Cathy Cenzia Choy: Yeah, well, thanks for giving me the opportunity Corky Lee was one of the most important, I think photo journalists of the late 20th and early 21st century and is such a pioneer in Asian American journalism. And he is just one of the over 1 million people we have lost in the United States as a result of COVID 19. And I wanted to honor his memory in the book. He was well known for taking a photograph of a sick American after nine 11 and so many sick Americans in our country after nine 11 were targeted for anti-Asian violence, they were conflated with the stereotypical image of what a terrorist might, might look like in our country. And so we took this photograph of a sick man wearing a red turban with the United States flag draped around his shoulders. And the other thing he's also very well known for is something that is a major theme in this book, which is the theme of erasure of Asian American history and experience in the overall us experience and that era. one of the key moments is in 1869 with the completion of the building of the first transcontinental railroad, which took place at a Ary summit in Utah. And this is a very important moment in, in the history of our nation as a symbol of our modern progress that, enabled us expansionism across the continent. And eventually also into the Hawaiian islands and Asia and Chinese workers at were. About 90% of the labor force of the central Pacific here in the Western region of building [00:23:17] Miko Lee: my family that railroad. Yes. Yeah. My ancestors built that railroad. [00:23:21] Cathy Cenzia Choy: Yes. I re we talked about that briefly and there might be other descendants here too of the railroad workers. And when they finally met at Promentory summit, there was a celebratory photo it's quite known and there was not a single Chinese worker in this photo. Not a single Chinese worker and quirky Lee. When he was in grade school, he remembered, learning about Chinese participation in the building of this railroad. And so he looked at that photo and he noticed that absence and erasure. And so I believe it was the hundred and 45th anniversary of the building of. that railroad. And he rest staged that iconic photograph. And this time he included the descendants of the Chinese railroad workers and other Asian Americans. And it was a joyous moment. And he referred to these moments, photographic justice. [00:24:24] Miko Lee: I love that whole even ethos of photographic justice. And you wrote in your book that was a 2014, that's so recent that this has happened. It's just this and also one person. And it also shows the power. Hello, ethnic studies, professors in the house, the power that he, this one, man heard this story and said, why isn't this being told, right? [00:24:46] Cathy Cenzia Choy: Yes. And that's the, one of my hopes for the book is you'll notice that in, throughout the book in the various chapters, I oppose these questions. No questions for us to think about. It's not solely about here's the experience and here are the dates and the years and the events, but it's the way we all participate in history, but by what we choose to remember to reflect upon and how we use that historical knowledge to, to move forward, [00:25:20] Miko Lee: next up listen to girl gang by Rubia barra That was girl gang by the amazing Ruby Abara. [00:27:26] Miko Lee: You are tuned into apex express on 94.1 K PFA and 89.3 K P F B. Now let's get back to my interview with author Kathleen. Cinzia joy. [00:27:41] Miko Lee: Keeping on with this conversation about erasure and representation, you quote this study by Nancy Angwin, who is amazing. That is it really recent last year, 2021 study that says 40% of films have no zero Asian American Pacific Islander representation and of the films that do have representation over 25% of the characters die, violent. talk to us a little bit more about what does that say? How is that connected to erasure? What does that mean to the broader multicultural universe? What does it say about Asian Americans? [00:28:19] Cathy Cenzia Choy: In that chapter I'm gonna paraphrase since I'm not directly reading from it, but in that chapter, I reflect on that study and those statistics. And one of the things that if you wanna look directly at that study because in the notes, there's the URL to it. You, you will read that those statistics are juxtaposed with statistics about anti-Asian violence in 20, 20 and 2021. And I posed the question in that chapter. Are you, are we human? If we're not portrayed in a dignified and humane way. in popular culture. And if the only representations or the major representations of you are as, one dimensional flat stereotypes. And if it gets to the point where you're so used to the narrative on screen, that you can expect that Asian or Asian American character to die and not make it, what does that do to our psyche and how we view real world Asian Americans. So I didn't share this in the book, but when my children were younger, I actually had this experience. We, we brought them to this action film and this Asian American character was on screen. and I remember putting my head down thinking, oh I really hope this character doesn't die. and I turned to my son who was quite young at the time, and I tried to like, prepare him for that. And then the character did die in, in, in the film. So it's that feeling of why are we seeing such similar stories over and over again? And how can we begin to change that narrative? [00:30:14] Miko Lee: Connected to that and connected to your earlier book about Filipino nurses. One of my pet peeves, I love watching doctor shows as just totally fluff. And one of my pet peeve is that there are never enough Asian doctors and I am in the bay area. Every single one of my doctors is Asian. So I've always been like, this is such I don't understand. And especially with how many Filipinos are in the medical profession. So can you expand a little bit more of that and bringing in your last book, which is empire of care, nursing and migration and Filipino American history? [00:30:50] Cathy Cenzia Choy: Yes, I oh the present the past present and future of American nursing is inextricably linked to the presence of Filipino American nurses in this country. And Filipino American nurses have been in the United States for six. Decades. Many of them are immigrants, so they were born and raised in the Philippines, but the United States has been their home and they have made this incredible contribution to us healthcare delivery. And California we are one of the beneficiaries of their labor they're in hospitals, they're in elder care. And in the book I mentioned the Emmys, I forgot what year that was, but one of the co-host Michael Shay actually, said can you believe, Hollywood is a diversity problem and can you believe they did 15 seasons of ER without one single Filipino nurse? And have you been to a hospital in this country? And I feel also that frustration and that irony and it's, I have to say it's. It was especially painful since 2020 because Filipino nurses and other Asian American healthcare workers were also among the targets of anti-Asian violence. And hate in this country, even while they were wearing medical scrubs. For example, there was testimony given and there's one hospitalist in, in New York who I I quote in, in the book who, who talked about this paradox that here they are contributing to the health of our nation and putting their lives on the line yes. Through exposure and dealing with this hate and violence. And he said, it's really challenging being. celebrated and villainized at the same time. And that's the problem when so much of our common understanding or what we think is an understanding of Asian Americans is based on stereotypes. Because stereotypes are flat. They're one dimensional. They dehumanize even the most seemingly positive ones. [00:33:13] Miko Lee: Okay. I wanna talk about a different topic, which is in 1997, time magazine released this cover and on the cover where all these cute Asians, and it said the model minority. And I remember being in school and my teacher bringing that in and showing that magazine cover the class and pointing to me and I just had this like visceral gut reaction to it. Can you talk about how the model minority, the whole ethos of model minority has been used as a tool for white SuPM. [00:33:49] Cathy Cenzia Choy: I, I appreciate you phrasing the question that way. The model minority stereotype, which is a myth is such a complex stereotype. And some people might say, the model minority is about Asian Americans being smart and economically successful. And what's wrong with that? Isn't that positive? Isn't that the best kind of branding any group or could ask for. And it is a tool of divide and conquer. It is a tool of white supremacy which is, I think the way I understand. You're phrasing of the question because it too has a history. And part of that history is emerging in the late 1960s during civil rights and other, social movement protests, and having media stories quoting academics as experts contrasting Asian Americans as successful model minorities who don't complain. Don't ask for government help pull themselves up by their bootstraps in contrast to black Americans. And it was really direct like that now in, in contrast to African Americans who are protesting and demanding justice and change from the government this is a. Strategy of divide and conquer and prevent us from seeing. So in some ways it's another form of erasure that I talk about in the book that there's this longer history of Asian American and black solidarity and friendship living in neighborhoods together, working together in organizing [00:35:39] Miko Lee: together, [00:35:39] Cathy Cenzia Choy: organizing together work, interracial relationships and families. And we're [00:35:45] Miko Lee: talking about you, Grace Lee [00:35:46] Cathy Cenzia Choy: Boggs yes, I right. Grace Gracely BOS is certainly, part of that, one of many right. One, one of many who was married to James Boggs, a a black auto worker and author and activist. And they were married for a long time and together created. Summer which was this community, youth based organization and out of that love and marriage and mutual activism created something which is relating to another main theme in the book of resistance. It's like that creative spark like Detroit summer to create community gardens and to paint murals and to have intergenerational dialogues and to move forward in, in the most hopeful and an inclusive. Possible. And that's just one example. [00:36:42] Miko Lee: Yeah. I appreciate how in the book you're talking about erasure, you're having resistance stories, and then you did bring up talking about mixed race and global adoption. And I know your former book was around global families. So I am you share some really lovely tidbits in there, like about Punjabi Mexican communities that I think maybe folks don't know about, or maybe folks in the bay area went to go see the amazing Bonura ballet folk, Loco production that told that whole story in dance that Joti sing and Zenon Beon did. But you also talk about Kip full books' book about Hopper's mixed race folks. So do you feel that and your own kids are mixed race? My own kids are also mixed race different Asian ethnicities together. I'm wondering. Okay, sorry, this is a long question, but I'm thinking back to years ago, the amazing performer David photo Moto did a production where he came out, dressed in Scottish. It came out, dressed in entire Kabuki outfit with a kimono and a face, and he did a whole entire Kabuki dance and then picked up his bagpipe and played a Scottish bagpipe. And it was such a great combo of his two cultures that he meshed together and that he was sharing about himself with the audience. So with that being said, and with your both personal family story, and you're having written this book, what is your take on cross racial adoption and mixed race folks being a bridge to the future? [00:38:17] Cathy Cenzia Choy: well, so it's an interesting way of saying that because I think in that chapter, which is titled 1953 mixed race lives I don't necess, I do say they're about our future because our future is multiracial. And we know that since the 2000 census and in the most recent 20, 20 census we know that an exponential number. The largest growing group are of people who I identify as more than one racial category. But one of the key things I key points that I make in that chapter is that being a mixed race and multiracial is not solely about our future, but it's also about our past and our present. and we have a multiracial past. And that includes some key examples in the, in that chapter are early 19th century Chinese and Irish marriages and in New York city and east Bengali Puerto Rican, African American, west Indian families and communities in Harlem and Filipino and Irish multiple generational families in new Orleans. And you had mentioned, P Punjabi Mexican Americans from Texas to California and MES Filipino, Mexican family is especially in Southern California. That is just as much about our past and our present as, as well as our future and the adoptees also figure in, in, in that chapter and 1953 each year serves as a touchstone for going back and forth in time. 1953 is referring to the end of the Korean war and how foundational the international adoption, especially by American families of mixed race Korean and American children, born of us servicemen and Korean women. How important that group was in terms of transforming the United States into an international adoption nation to. Which, which leads the world in terms of internationally adopting children. And even though Russia, Guatemala Romania, Ukraine are also major sending countries of adoptive children to the United States. Most of those adoptive children are from Asian countries and Korea plays an important role in that history, but so does Japan and Vietnam as, as well. And they're an important part of Asian American history that I also think tends to be marginalized in our understanding of the Asian American experience. [00:41:09] Miko Lee: Okay. My last questions before we open it up to our lovely audiences, juicy questions is what would you like readers to walk away with after reading your book? [00:41:20] Cathy Cenzia Choy: I would love for readers to walk away with a more. nuanced and deeper understanding of Asian American histories and to reflect upon how relevant that is for this moment. This is a moment when so many of us are confronting so many different existential crises from climate to economic insecurity, but since 2020 for Asian Americans, this this dual crises of the pandemic and the surge in anti-Asian hate has really made an impact on so many of us and our communities. And I believe that understanding Asian American histories, understanding them as multidimensional human beings, who are part of the American experience Is one important step to, to reduce and end this violence. Thank [00:42:24] Miko Lee: you. Okay. We're passing out cards. Do we have, oh, we have some collected. Rolling. Does anybody have any questions? Does anybody have any questions? Oh, wow. [00:42:34] Cathy Cenzia Choy: Yeah, jump in the [00:42:35] Miko Lee: card. Okay. I read this. Can you talk a little bit about medical scapegoating, which you mentioned in your book? [00:42:44] Cathy Cenzia Choy: Yes. One of the things that we are observing since 2020, and since COVID 19 has become a pandemic, is that medical scapegoating of Asian Americans. And in the book, I talk about how there's a long history of anti-Asian medical scapegoating that is as old as the oldest migration. Oldest mass migration of Asians to, to the United States. And in the second half of the 19th century Chinese and by extension Chinese American bodies were blamed for smallpox outbreaks. Japanese immigrants were blamed for typhoid. South migrants were associated with hookworm. And what this does is that it scapegoats people, it dehumanizes them and makes them targets for egregious forms of violence. And that what we are experiencing today is not new. And this relates to that point about kind of one of my hopes for the book is that learning and engaging about these histories is really important. To end this medical scapegoating and the violence that accompanies it. [00:44:02] Miko Lee: I think people don't even realize that China towns were burned down during those times, too. [00:44:07] Cathy Cenzia Choy: Yes, I in addition to erasure and resistance violence is a third major theme, of the book and violence means many different things. We, in the media, it often focuses on the most egregious forms of violence like mass shooting. But the anti-Asian hate incidents and violence have ranged from bullying and harassment in schools, spitting on Asian Americans name calling I'm telling Asian Americans to go back to where they, they came from and you were referring to arson and burning down of Chinatowns and , this was something here in California and in, in the Pacific Northwest the method of anti-Asian violence was all often in the form of expulsion of Chinese from their communities through arson shooting stoning threats, [00:45:04] Miko Lee: right. You talked a little bit in the beginning, and this is an audience question. You talked a little bit in the beginning about the order of the book and we had you read the interlude and you said that it was done in a different order, starting with, 20, 20. Can you talk a little bit more about your thought process in creating the book in this kind of non-linear time structure? [00:45:24] Cathy Cenzia Choy: In the preface I write and also in the acknowledgements I give thanks to my students over so many years at university of Minnesota UC Berkeley especially but also other institutions that earlier in, in my career, I've learned so much from my students, from listening to them from engaging in dialogue about what we're reading. And in spring of 2021, I taught this class on Asian American history in the age of COVID 19. And some of the students were telling me that they really appreciated having taken previous courses in Asian American history, but how sometimes the courses they would go in that linear approach and then primarily end. Maybe in like the 1980s or maybe the, the glass class would be here, are these contemporary issues now related to all the things that we've talked about. And they were just voicing, some concern about how is history relevant today. And so I played with the chronology using a non-linear approach to make this point that Asian American history is relevant. Now, it's relevant in 2020, it's relevant in 1975. It's relevant in 1953. It's relevant in 1869. And it's relevant right now. And we're all we're all a part [00:46:59] Miko Lee: of it. So I'm gonna combine a few questions here. And this one is really about the different waves of Asian American immigration and how those impacted the storytelling. And I think. The different, there's different immigrant communities have gone into really specific fields for instance, Chinese laundries and, Vietnamese nail salons, Cambodian donut shops. Can you talk a little bit about how the storytelling is connected to the different waves of immigration first generation second, third generation? [00:47:35] Cathy Cenzia Choy: Yes that's a great question. And the book is not organized that way in the sense, like this year represents a particular wave and so does the next year. But there are particular chapters in the book that refer to immigration waves. And one of the chapters not the 1965 reprise, but there is a chapter 1965 about the faces of post 1965 Asian America and 1965 referring to the immigration act. Of 1965 is often considered this a major wave and a new kind of immigration that was different from late 19th and then early 20th century waves of immigration. Because by that point, immigration policy had created preferences for highly educated persons with needed skills. And one of the reasons why we are seeing so many Asian immigrant professionals in the United States is not an outcome of our innate ability in stem. But is also an outcome of but is an outcome of immigration policy. It's not in any ability there's quite a bit of training, that, that goes into it. And I actually didn't have much talent in the stem fields, even though I write sometimes about them like, like nursing but in the chapter, 1975 trauma and transformation, I talk about waves theory and how there's often the conceptualization of three different kinds of waves to describe Southeast Asian refugees to the United States with. the first wave beginning immediately after the fall of psych on in 1975 tended to be this wave of people who Southeast Asians who had connections to the us military there, I had worked with them and were more highly educated. And that was part of the first wave. And then the second wave, which is sometimes referred to as the boat people, even though a number of Asian American studies scholars have criticized the use of that term because it obscures their heroic will to live, but more, more, much more di diverse, ethnically a lot of Chinese Vietnamese people of farming backgrounds from rural areas in contrast to the first and then like this third wave that, that came later that involved groups like ations and even later than that also immigrants through immigration policy as opposed to, to refugee policy. And what I also point out is that these kinds of conceptualizations are important. They help us, understand historically some major changes in terms of Southeast Asian American demographics in this country. But I wanted to emphasize, so I write in the book, waves are constantly moving and taking different shapes. And in 2000 there was a new group of refugees who were resettled in Minnesota. And this is a living history and that newer waves of refugees are coming from Myanmar and Butan and who are working in places like. The state of Iowa and working in our meat packing plants and who also have been exposed disproportionately to COVID 19 because then president Donald Trump had invoked the defense production act to keep meat, packing plants open. So waves are important, but they're not set and they're always moving and flowing like our histories [00:51:16] Miko Lee: as a follow up to that. One of our audience members has a question about how many immigrants have when they first arrive have been exploited in their labor positions. And they're wondering if you could share some positive stories and I M I wonder if you could share with the audience about uncle Ted and what he did with donuts [00:51:35] Cathy Cenzia Choy: well, I think. it isn't it isn't as though there are positive and negative stories, oftentimes when you are really deeply engaging with these histories and these stories, there's often these moments that might be negative and then others that are more positive. And I think that adds to the humanity of people. And so just to give an, the example of the Filipino healthcare workers, some of 'em are nurses, but are also working in elder care. And some of those conditions that they're working in are very challenging. It's very challenging to be a caregiver. And at the same time, so many of them also take pride in their. I don't wanna portray them as just solely being, having a negative experience. They're proud of their caregiving and we need to care for our caregivers a bit more in this country. In terms of positive stories, so one thing I'll share is there's this and this is an example. I, I feel of resistance and that creative spark there's something called the south Asian American digital archive SAA D and they have this project called the first day's project. And it's a project where immigrants, regardless of immigrants from around the world can share their story on this digital platform to describe their first days in, in the United States. And. Even though these first days have a mix of like positive and negative aspects. I have to say while reading these stories it brought just smile and joy. For me and reading these stories that are so unique and universal at the first time, same time. And so one of the stories was of this young girl who was nine years old back in, in the early 2000 tens and she was from Nepal. And so she came from Nepal and she was. I imagine they were, they landed at SFO and then they had to go to San Pablo and she wrote she said I was disappointed that what I saw wasn't like, TV shows of New York city with all those tall buildings and all that fun stuff, but she took her first Bart ride. And she said that was just so amazing. She had never been on this kind of faster public transportation that brought them from San Francisco to San Pablo and something like 40 minutes. And then she said, she was working really hard. She was like nine years old. And then she became, because her, both her parents were working, I believe in the fast food industry. And she had a younger sister, so she had to learn how to cook for her parents and her. Her sister and even some extended family. And so she said I learned English from like watching, watching the joy of painting with Bob Ross. Wow. Yes. And then she said she watched shows with Rachel Ray and em, Emerald Lagosi like on food network and, and she said like she wanted to become, she learned from those shows. She wanted to become really famous. And so she would do the cooking in like she was on her own food network show in front of the audience. Her younger sister, [00:55:00] Miko Lee: so cute. So cute and shout out to VIN G and bar go, who founded that and also run the Berkeley south Asian radical history walking tour. If you haven't been on that, you should because it's amazing. I am sad to say that this brings our evening to a close. Thank you so much for joining us. I wanna just say that back in the corner, we have the most amazing east wind books, our local bookstore, yay. East wind books. And we didn't touch on one of the questions that I wanted to ask, but about Asian American, the terminology, Asian American Pacific Islander actually. Expressed a whole episode on that interviewing Harvey, Don, who is the founder of east wind books and is a fellow professor of ethnic studies at UC Berkeley. [00:55:49] Cathy Cenzia Choy: And one of the veterans of the strike is also here from the late 1960s both that took place in San Francisco state college as it was then as, as well as UC Berkeley. And that's part of the reason why I have my livelihood and is it part of the legacy? This book is part of that legacy. [00:56:09] Miko Lee: So check out our legacy Asian American history is of the United States by our amazing guest, Kathy Cena Cho, you can get the books and get autographed back in the corner. We thank you for supporting independent bookstores. [00:56:24] Cathy Cenzia Choy: Thank. [00:56:31] Miko Lee: Thank you so much for joining us, please check out our website, kpfa.org backslash program. Backslash apex express. To find out more about our show tonight and to find out how you can take direct action. We thank all of you listeners out there. Keep resisting, keep organizing, keep creating and sharing your visions with the world. Because your voices are important. Apex express is a proud member of the acre network, Asian Americans for civil rights and equality apex express is produced by Miko Lee, Jalena Keane-Lee, Paige Chung, Hien Nguyen and Nate Tan and with special editing by Swati Rayasaman. Thank you so much to the KPFA staff for their support. Have a great The post APEX Express – 10.27.22 Cathy Ceniza Choy appeared first on KPFA.
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Obi-Wan Kenobi makes his report to the Jedi Council, Padmé makes a risky decision, and Count Dooku makes his case to Obi-Wan. Tom Gross from Teachers in the Dungeon joins us for this episode. This segment of Attack of the Clones runs from 1:21:40 to 1:33:37 on Disney+. In this fully armed and operational episode, we discuss: Tom's memories of seeing Attack of the Clones and his favorite character, Anakin and Padmé's discussion after Anakin returns with Shmi's body, Obi-Wan Kenobi's message to the Jedi Council and Mace Windu's instructions to Anakin, Padmé's decision to rescue Obi-Wan, and Count Dooku's attempt to recruit Obi-Wan Kenobi. Thanks for joining us for another episode! Subscribe to Podcast Stardust for all your Star Wars news, reviews, and discussion wherever you get your podcasts. And please leave us a five star review on Apple Podcasts. Find Jay and her cosplay adventures on J.Snips Cosplay on Instagram. Follow us on social media: Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | Pinterest | YouTube. T-shirts, hoodies, stickers, masks, and posters are available on TeePublic. Find all episodes on RetroZap.com.
On this episode in honor of Mother's Day this past Sunday, we examine a few strong mothers in Star Wars (Padme, Shmi, Breha Organa, and Beru Lars) and their Biblical counterparts. Part II out in a few days! Thank you to all the strong mothers out there! May the force be with you and God bless you! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/conspiracyintheforce/support
Brett dunks on Jake Lloyd. Special editions, Star Trek, Separatists, Shmi, sarlacs and more this episode!
What exactly did the Tusken Raiders do to Shmi Skywalker in Attack of the Clones? I gathered as much info as I could about what happened to Shmi while she was a slave to the Sand People. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
It's the spookiest time of the year, where once again we sort by new on a horrible subreddit and break down amazing posts by real actual people. We're looking at scary two-sentence horror prompts and other spooky topics like no more Family Guy, Spider-Man eating a big fly, The Morbius Rap, Blade easter eggs, Bjork is Shmi, clone barbers, elementary school horror stories, bad speech topics, french teachers falling over, One Love Homeless Version, Christmas concert copyright strikes, chimp prostitution, monkey chain gangs, the rooftop dog massacre, child blood vials, Nerf hookahs, Ryan's Toys trickle down, and Markiplier meet cutes. Happy Halloween ;)
The world's most upsetting game show has landed once again, and this time we return to the old and far away galaxy of George Lucas' hellscape, Star Wars! Who will be the biggest hater? Who will lower themselves enough into degeneracy in order to win? Find out in our 10th game of Feud 34!
Anakin et Shmi sont séparés de Padmé, Luke et Leia. Comment les deux groupes vont-ils s'en sortir alors que Mace et ses Arbitres Jedi sont toujours à leurs trousses ? Faucon Millennial, c‘est votre podcast 100% Star Wars qui ne pense pas que c'était forcément mieux avant. Deux fois par mois, l'équipage scrute, analyse, déglingue et décortique films, séries, livres et jeux vidéo dans la bonne humeur. Retrouvez-nous sur les applications et plate-formes suivantes : Site officiel du podcast : https://fauconpod.fr/ Podcloud : https://podcloud.fr/podcast/fauconmillennial Spotify : https://open.spotify.com/show/3eTXc61OgFyWu796PCgtA6 iTunes : https://podcasts.apple.com/fr/podcast/faucon-millennial/id1449387913 Deezer : https://www.deezer.com/fr/show/404142 Google Podcast : https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9mYXVjb25taWxsZW5uaWFsLmxlcG9kY2FzdC5mci9yc3M%3D Stitcher : https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/faucon-millennial TuneIn : https://tunein.com/podcasts/Fantasy--Science-Fiction-Podc/Faucon-Millennial-p1186653/ iHeart Radio : https://www.iheart.com/podcast/256-faucon-millennial-31145205/ Les réseaux pour venir discuter avec nous et les auditeurs : Twitter : https://twitter.com/FauconPod Discord : https://discord.gg/aFG5gws Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/FauconPod/ Et si vous voulez retrouver l'ambiance du podcast tout en causant jeux vidéo Star Wars, on vous attend sur la chaîne Twitch de Faucon Millennial (https://www.twitch.tv/fauconpod) !
Our lives were recently dramatically changed when we learned of the existence of over 20 unreleased CommTech chips. After the initial wave with TPM, originally the plan was for them to keep going with new technologies and "TWICE THE SPEECH". While these sadly never reached toy store shelves, we have presented for you listeners, a comprehensive guide to the forbidden CommTech sounds! Sabe! Shmi! Sickly sounding Tusken Raiders! Porkins screaming! It's the CommTech follow up episode everyone has been waiting for! PLUS : we're talking Disney Plus Day, that Kenobi concept art and the super charming Willow tease! So, stand behind a camel creature's tail, listen today and celebrate the love! check out Prototype Archive here: https://www.prototypearchives.com/commtech-guide JOIN THE BLAST POINTS ARMY and SUPPORT BLAST POINTS ON PATREON! BAD BATCH REVIEW EPISODES! MANDO SEASON 1 & 2 REVIEW EPISODES!! BLAST POINTS Q&A EPISODES! Theme Music downloadable tracks! Exclusive Commentaries! Extra goodies! and so much MORE! www.patreon.com/blastpoints new Blast Points T-SHIRTS are now available! Represent your favorite podcast everywhere you go! Get the NEW Ben Burtt and Indiana shirt ! Cool logo shirts & other stylish styles while supplies last! Perfect for conventions, dates, formal events and more! Get them here: www.etsy.com/shop/Gibnerd?section_id=21195481 visit the Blast Points website for comics, recipes, search for back episodes and so much more! www.blastpointspodcast.com if you dug the show, please leave BLAST POINTS a review on iTunes and share the show with friends! If you leave an iTunes review, we will read it on a future episode! honestly! talk to Blast Points on twitter at @blast_points leave feedback, comments or ideas for shows! "like" Blast Points on Facebook for news on upcoming shows and links to some of the stuff we talk about in the show!! Join the Blast Points Super Star Wars Chill Group here www.facebook.com/groups/BlastPointsGroup/ we are also on Instagram! Wow! www.instagram.com/blastpoints your hosts are Jason Gibner & Gabe Bott! contact BLAST POINTS at contact@blastpointspodcast.com send us show ideas, feedback, voice messages or whatever! May the Force be with you, always.
WHAT IF WEDNESDAY - Today we open the What If scenario of : What if Anakin saved his mother? If he had been successful with his rescue and never killed the Tuskens, would this have changed Anakin's desire for the Dark Side? Would he now stay on the Light Side or was Padme's death still the tipping point for Anakin to turn? Let's find out what would have happened if Anakin made it back in time and saved Shmi. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Welcome! For our first episode we take a look at the prequel trilogy of Star Wars. Questions we ask along the way, who would have been the better master for Anakin? How was the first lightsaber made? Why didn't they go back and buy Shmi's freedom? And much much more! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/question-possible-answer/support
We head into the matron of the Skywalker saga, Shmi. Join as we explore this nuanced and interesting character.
We uncover 10 Fascinating Facts about Watto; the infamous slave master to Anakin Skywalker. What is the backstory of the notorious junk dealer? What happened between him and Shmi after Anakin left to become a Jedi? Did Darth Vader ever get his revenge over Watto for being his slave? Listen to these 10 Insanely Fascinating Facts About Watto. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Listen as Star Ships host Adriana and fellow Clashing Sabers podcaster Lindsey discuss an unexpected ship from The Phantom Menace! In this episode, Adriana and Lindsey break down the whys and what ifs of a romantic relationship between Qui-Gon Jinn and Shmi Skywalker. Join our Patreon to support our literacy non-profit that gets Star Wars books into classrooms. One-hundred percent of your donations go directly toward buying and sending books! ClashingSabers.net Clashing Sabers on Twitter Star Wars Clashing Sabers Facebook group Clashing Sabers on YouTube Follow Adriana, Drew, Lindsey, Mark, Sammy B, and Zach on Twitter! And don’t forget to leave us a rating and review on your podcatcher of choice!
Pat & Andy get bizzay discussing the news such as Lucasfilms Games being announced, addressing rumours circulating the web regarding Grand Admiral Thrawn, and getting down and DIRTY regarding a new theory circulating that the sequel trilogy is in an ALTERNATE reality (watch Star Wars Rebels Season 4, ep. 13 for context). The prequel era and the guys' feelings on it are discussed, followed by an announcement on just who the first special guest of the podcast will be! Thanks for tuning in everyone and may the Force be with you! Thrawn source: https://epicstream.com/news/BriConstantino/Lucasfilm-Reportedly-Casts-Lars-Mikkelsen-as-Live-Action-Grand-Admiral-Thrawn Ashoka and the alternate reality that is the prequels - https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR0yAL0L2kRZ9LDXt_jsxDeIKDyOmUuF4wyegLC91IpQNwTZ8oGTcfiJqzE&v=iPR9mMgaFvk&feature=youtu.be Follow us on Instagram & Facebook for updates by searching @GoodMorningAlderaan (https://www.instagram.com/goodmorningalderaan/) (https://www.facebook.com/GoodMorningAlderaan) News Jingle at Beginning of Episode: Music: Breaking News - SergePavkinMusic Music Link: https://youtu.be/KMYhCXehcp8 --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/goodmorningalderaan/message
This week we sat down with our New Old Friend Kimberly Duran known as “SHMI”. In this episode, we touched on how she became a visual artist and muralist, “Nacho Libre”, her first mural, and finding her partner in crime in art. It was awesome hearing how a teacher helped her believe in her art, how she grew up fast at a young age, working on her personal art collection after hours, and why she thinks art school is not for everyone. We also touched on becoming religious, growing up in Santa Ana, moving a lot as a child and who inspires her art. Make sure to check out SHMI on social media and support her by sharing her work and any photos you take of her walls. We hope you enjoy this episode! Follow Kimberly “SHMI” on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/5hmi Featured musical artist: Nate Rose - “Curious George” https://www.instagram.com/naterosemusic This episode is brought to you by: Mission Bar https://www.instagram.com/missionbarsa Tacos El Gringo https://www.instagram.com/tacos_el_gringo Follow New Old Friends: https://www.instagram.com/newoldfriendspodcast Joseph: https://www.instagram.com/josephpadillaofficial Mike: https://www.instagram.com/mike_izl Please write, subscribe, and follow! Thank you for listening and see you next week. Cheers! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/newoldfriends/support
Ani? Lil Ani? The origins of the Chosen One have long been a mystery - comic nods here, Palps quotes there, Shmi stories aplenty - so we're looking into what we know and discussing how the Chosen One came to be and was the prophecy fulfilled. We take YOUR thoughts as per plus we end with a game of "what Ani said next" For all your Sessions needs, head to starwarssessions.co.uk // Find and support us on PATREON at patreon.com/starwarssessions // Buy spicy SWS merch at teepublic.com/user/starwarssessions // Don’t forget to rate, review, subscribe and share! You can find us on Twitter (@starwarssession) and Instagram (@starwarssessions) so come talk the Wars with us! We post polls, questions and thoughts on both socials and the results/comments are featured on the episodes as well. Send your voice messages to sws@whatiwatchedtonight.co.uk and we'll get them on the show. Catch the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and many more. Thanks again for listening – your continued support is so appreciated by us. Those spicy graphics by Isaac Pevy @ https://dovetail.design. MTFBWY.
Summer is here and what better endeavor for the gang besides tackling the most summery blockbusters of all time, the entire Star Wars series! We begin the month with Episodes 1-3. We meet Jar-Jar. It's a whole thing.
In today's episode of The Rewriter's Room we discus focusing out entire trilogy on everyone's favorite character; Shmi, Anakin struts the runway, and reveals his deep seeded sexual attraction to pickles. So pull up a chair and feel shame, because the bible already did it. --- Find all of The Rewriter's Room links you could dream of at linktr.ee/rewritepod --- Jam out with Alex's Band on Instagram @thewaytheworldends210 --- And much thanks to T.C. Costello for our intro song - https://tccostello.bandcamp.com/
Star Wars: In a Galaxy – Watching all the Star Wars we can get our hands on.
In the fourth episode of season two of Star Wars: In a Galaxy, Jacob and Eli discuss the 60 minute to 80 minute mark of Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace (1999). Among their conversation is a discussion about the forms of lightsaber combat, the ups and downs of the podrace, and the logistical idiocy of why Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Qui-Gon had to leave Shmi Skywalker on Tatooine as a slave. The next episode will cover the next twenty minutes of The Phantom Menace (1999). Follow us on Twitter! Our Handle is: @InaGalaxyCast. We now have a regular upload schedule! Fridays at 4:00 P.M. PST, our twitter account will drop a name reveal of the episode that will be published an hour later at 5:00 P.M. PST! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/inagalaxy/message
Anakin Skywalker lämar Naboo tillsammans med Padmé för att hitta Anakins mor, Shmi. Ben försvinner på Geonosis och läget mellan Separatisterna och Republiken är minst sagt spänt, går det att undvika krig? Det är ju nästan som om någon vill att det ska bli krig? Våra hjältar befinner sig snart alla mitt i händelsernas centrum på den ogästvänliga planeten Geonosis... hur ska detta sluta? Vad har Gessle för sig och vilka blir våra Most Loveable Extras? Välkomna till del 2 av vår recension av Klonerna Anfaller!
In honor of Mother's Day, today we will discuss the mothers of Star Wars, particularly the mothers of the Skywalker family. We'll be covering Shmi, Padme, and Leia, as well as those mothers who played a part in raising our heroes. Star Wars would not be what it is without these strong women who were often willing to put the interests of others before their own. Join with me as we celebrate. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/pageturnerstheywerenot/support
Acomi and Turk182 challenge the belief that the Jedi and the Republic are the heroes of Star Wars. Pointing out specific moments, and working chronologically from The Phantom Menace through Return of the Jedi, they point out the fallacy of the Jedi. The two set about ripping the Jedi and the Republic a new black hole and explaining how the Empire got a bad rap. Editors Note: Anakin and his mother, Shmi, lived in Mos Espa which is 300 km from Mos Eisley. (Safe to say, also a wretched hive of scum and villany.) #OMTWF #Acomi #Turk182 #starwars #jedimenace #longlivetheempire Follow Acomi on Twitter at @AcomiDraws and on Instagram at AcomiDraws. Follow Turk182 on Twitter at @Turk182_KE --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app
Shmi Skywalker isn't just the mother of Darth Vader, she's key to the very core of the Skywalker Saga and full of great wisdom. How does the wisdom of Shmi inform the rest of the story? What was George trying to say through her? What DOES your heart tell you? Joseph and Ken are here to discuss it. Plus a look at the latest news and your questions on the 195th edition of ForceCenter! From the minds of Ken Napzok (comedian, host of The Napzok Files), Joseph Scrimshaw (comedian, writer, host of the Obsessed podcast), and Jennifer Landa (actress, YouTuber, crafter, contributor on StarWars.com) comes the ForceCenter Podcast Feed. Here you will find a series of shows exploring, discussing, and celebrating everything about Star Wars. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts and Google Podcasts. Listen on TuneIn, Stitcher, Spotify, and more! Follow ForceCenter! Support us on Patreon ForceCenter merch! Get a free 30 day trial of Audible at www.audibletrial.com/forcecenter --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/forcecenter/message
Star Wars video games, when Anakin was a good guy, midi-chlorians, and the name Shmi are discussed.
Why did Darth Plaguesis choose Shmi to be Anakin's mother. The powerful Sith Lord is said to have had the power to create life. Did he create Anakin Skywalker? And if so, why would he choose a poor slave on a desolate planet to carry one of the most most powerful Jedi's in the Galaxy? We'll find out in this episode of Star Wars Theory.
IT'S FINALLY HERE! Yes, that's right, our epic STAR WARS recap series is finally upon us, as Ben and Colin get all kinds of excited to recap quite possibly the greatest film franchise of all time in the lead up to The Rise of Skywalker by looking at the very first film in chronological order, The Phantom Menace. Can we keep this episode under 20 hours? How strongly will we defend this movie as well as all the prequels in general? How many times did Colin actually see this movie at the cinema? Can we praise George Lucas for being a genius? Does this movie stand up visually after 20 years? Is Padme racist? #RacistPadme. Why should we all strive to make Naboo great again? Is Jar Jar Binks as bad as we all remember or is he unfairly hated? Is Jar Jar Binks the Star Wars version of Donald Trump? Is there too much story in the prequels which weighs them down? Can Ben find ways to defend Natalie Portman even when her acting perhaps isn't the best? Do we like Watto? Is Anakin making us want to say yippeeeeee more than we should want to? What are our feelings on Shmi? Are we fine that Anakin technically doesn't have a father? What are our feelings of the force explained as being midi-chlorians? How amazing is the podrace sequence? How much do we all want a japor snippet? Why is Katherine Hepburn relevant to this episode? And can we make anybody out there actually like this movie? You know it's going to be a long one, you know it's going to be an entertaining one, so get to downloading and find out why!★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
Do you spend all day everyday wondering if Leia ever learned about her grandmother Shmi? What would Leia think if she watched the Boonta Eve pod race? Did Watto attend Shmi and Cliegg Lars' wedding? All these questions and more were answered in Troy Denning's fascinating and underrated 2003 novel, Tatooine Ghost. It's an incredible blending of the prequels and the original trilogy that also manages to somehow resonate into the sequels. Join us as we look at the book, Leia's journey with the Force, Ben Kenobi, Ben Solo, grown up Kitster, Beru's sister, Watto wearing a bow tie and so much more in this fun filled, deep thoughts episode! PLUS: Resistance news! Rain Johnson movies update! AND Kenobi-Mania! So stop looking for Killik Twilight & celebrate the love with BLAST POINTS! JOIN THE BLAST POINTS ARMY and SUPPORT BLAST POINTS ON PATREON! Exclusive episodes! Commentaries! Extra goodies! and MORE! www.patreon.com/blastpoints Blast Points t-shirts are now available! Get them here: www.etsy.com/shop/Gibnerd?section_id=21195481 visit the Blast Points website! www.blastpointspodcast.com reviews! comics! recipes, articles and tons more! if you dug the show please leave BLAST POINTS a review on iTunes and share the show with friends! If you leave an iTunes review, we will read it on a future episode! honestly! talk to Blast Points on twitter at @blast_points leave feedback, comments or ideas for shows! also like Blast Points on Facebook for news on upcoming shows and links to some of the stuff we talk about in the show!! Join the Blast Points Super Star Wars Chill Group here www.facebook.com/groups/BlastPointsGroup/ we are also on Instagram! Wow! your hosts are Jason Gibner & Gabe Bott! contact BLAST POINTS at contact@blastpointspodcast.com send us show ideas, feedback, voice messages or whatever! May the Force be with you, always.
Episodio donde escucharán la teoría de Rey y Shmi en Star Wars y las mejores peleas de todas sus películas. Platicamos también acerca del feminismo forzado en Batwoman, las especulaciones sobre la última película de Tarantino, Andy Serkis dirigirá Venom 2, la sospechosa "muerte" de Jeffrey Epstein y la reseña de The Boys!! Escúchanos en: Spotify / iTunes / ivoox / stitcher Síguenos: Twitter/ Facebook/ Instagram: holamsupernova holamsupernova@gmail.com
Episodio donde escucharán la teoría de Rey y Shmi en Star Wars y las mejores peleas de todas sus películas. Platicamos también acerca del feminismo forzado en Batwoman, las especulaciones sobre la última película de Tarantino, Andy Serkis dirigirá Venom 2, la sospechosa "muerte" de Jeffrey Epstein y la reseña de The Boys!! Escúchanos en: Spotify / iTunes / ivoox / stitcher Síguenos: Twitter/ Facebook/ Instagram: holamsupernova holamsupernova@gmail.com
Hey guys, this is just a PSA to check your bank statements regularly. If I did, I would have noticed that I still have MoviePass. You think if I keep it for a few more months that it will somehow be advantageous to have had it? Guys, I’m gonna take the bet and keep it. Maybe I’ll start an Indiegogo to fund one year of keeping MoviePass. Please donate. My password wasn’t changed, but their service has voluntarily been down for a month? Weird stuff. I think I watched at least 30 movies with it, so that’s at more than $450 worth, so I shouldn’t complain too much? Anyways, Collider Live, Friday, yada yada, listen to my music, Mark Reilly and Dorina Arellano and John Rocha and Nathan Hamill and Cody Hall and Alex Marzoña (it me!) are here, but have you heard my music yet? Get Nathan’s new shirt “My Father, My Lord”: https://nathanhamill.threadless.com CHECK OUT THE PASADENA DAYDREAM FESTIVAL: https://pasadenadaydream.com/ Join the Pasadena Daydream Festival FB Event: https://bit.ly/2Q7wW9E 00:00 what day is it? Nathan is back! Cats, history buffs, old people using the internet 11:41 get Nathan’s new shirt! 17:08 the Rey is Shmi theory 23:51 LAPD investigating Youtube dog abuser 30:30 a Yankees-White Sox game will be played at the Field of Dreams field, Nathan hasn’t seen it; Young Guns II talk 34:41 MoviePass changed people’s passwords 45:00 Michelle Williams officially on board for Venom 2; Andy Serkis is cool 53:29 calls - weekend plans, possible Episode IX ending
Your hosts for this week’s Talk Star Wars podcast are Rob and Brad! This week, more from our listeners regarding the concept of Universal Levellers, we talk a little about our Star Wars spending habits, as well as what we’d buy if money were no object! AND THAT’S NOT ALL! We also hear the weirdest Episode IX theory yet!PLUS: A spoilery review of Alphabet Squadron (Separated by a commercial break for our listeners not on Patreon, and two warnings from Rob either way!)
We look back at the year 1999; the golden age of pop music and beginning of a new era for Star Wars. What if The CW network started producing television series in a galaxy far away? We've got a lineup of programming that'll have ratings higher than the skyscrapers of Coruscant!
Like typically Star Wars podcasters, Lynn and Emma take time to dedicate an entire episode to discuss The Phantom Menace for its 20th anniversary. Jedi are like Mormons? Free Yaddle! How to dislike a movie without being a total jerk! And yes, Shmi is the best thing about TPM no question.
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A big thank you to Author Pete Fletzer for joining us for this first installment of BTBD Book Club. In this first part, we dive into the four prologue chapters that provide a solid foundation for what we know as TPM. The prologue is four years. Chapter One - 4 years prior to start of film is #Shmi and #Anakin Chapter Two - 3 years prior is #Padme just crowed Queen and abandonment from Sheev Chapter Three - 2 years prior #ObiWan and #QuiGon go on a force guided mission Chapter Four - 1 year prior is #Maul's thirst to reveal himself to the Jedi You can read the story along with BTBD and Pete right now at https://www.petefletzer.com/ Watch new episodes of #BeyondTheBlastDoors every Sunday at 11:00 AM Central 12:00p.m., (Est/9:00 a.m, Pacific) https://www.youtube.com/c/BeyondTheBlastDoors Follow us on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/BeyondTheBlastDoors/?ref=bookmarks&sw_fnr_id=2236164831 Follow us on Twitter - https://twitter.com/BTBD_Podcast Follow us on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/beyondtheblastdoors/ Do you like #BeyondTheBlastDoors and want more? Consider supporting the BTBD guys on Patreon! You can help guide how they create more content, and have it tailored to what you like. Check it out! #Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/BeyondTheBlastDoors
Try on your best Irish accent, fill up a bowl with beans (but not too full), and pull your flashy, splashy green suit out of the closet for next Sunday as shazbazzar and JediShua travel back and forth through time in TechnoRetro Dads. We Love Our Cereal The Roving Spoonster finds places to eat cereal all round the United States while shazbazzar risks injury to his still recovering gums with a bowl of Cap’n Crunch’s Chocolatey Berry Crunch splashed with milk. A singular question arises: “How powerful are the Soggies?” Saturday Mornings: Video Games Cartoons Sure, you remember Pac-Man and Super Mario Bros. Super Show, but were you around when Pole Position seemed like Speed Racer and Knight Rider made a guest appearance on M.A.S.K.? Was the Legend of Zelda the adventure you craved? Maybe you’re one of several EarBuds who witnessed Kevin splash into the games like Flynn into TRON in Captain N: The Game Master. Whatever your interest, from cute to captivating, ‘80s and ‘90s Saturday mornings (and weekday afternoons) were able to capitalize on consumers’ interest in video games whenever and wherever possible. SuperFriends and EarBuds remember some shows that made a lasting impact on them back in the day. Let’s All Go to the Movies: Splash Tom Hanks is rescued by Darryl Hannah as John Candy and Eugene Levy seek their own interests in this thirty-five year-old romantic comedy that had us rolling as kids and continues to provide a good time in Ron Howard’s Splash. This very well might have been your father’s The Little Mermaid if he was part of Generation X. Star Wars Scrapbook In anticipation for the upcoming Star Wars Celebration in Chicago, shazbazzar and JediShua cover what was happening in our galaxy this month in the ‘90s with the likes of Steroid Luke, Hahnold Swartzenegger, and Yoda Garcia and other memories from twelve to twenty-two years ago when Star Wars was making a big splash twenty to thirty years after its inception. Feedback The EarBuds and RetroZappers are making their own splash on TechnoRetro Dads this week as Stuffedy tries to let us in on a free play point-and-click adventure online and Joey of the Animanicast finds his Indiana Jones role-playing game book as well as Palpatine and Shmi in The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. Thanks for tuning in to TechnoRetro Dads, EarBuds! Be sure to check out episodes you may have missed on iTunes, Apple Podcasts, or at TechnoRetroDads.libsyn.com. Don’t forget to rate and review TechnoRetro Dads on iTunes, share us and with us on social media, get TechnoRetro merch at TeePublic, and join discussions on Discord about toys, cereal, games, movies and/or shows from the ‘70s and ‘80s by giving the ‘Dads your feedback via voice mail at (209) 878-7323 or sending us your mp3dback via electronic-M to podcast@TechnoRetroDads.com.
This week Albert and Jonesy answer listener questions and speculation. Quick Episode Summary: Every Star Wars Character is getting a Tv series (sarcasm) Which is better TV or Featured Film? More SWCC guests announced The Phantom Menace 20th anniversary panel announced Listener Questions/Speculation Will Mortis return? Will we have more Force focused plots? Why didn't Darth Sidious sense Darth Vader turning to the light? What lightsaber duel have you always wanted to see? Did Qui-Gon and Shmi have feelings for one another? Will we see Lord & Miller's version of Solo: A Star Wars Story? Prophecy question! Will we see Ezra's story continue? Is the Force a living entity? Shout-outs Next Week Feedback and Promotion Send feedback and comments to cantinacastfanmail@gmail.com Follow us on Twitter @TheCantinaCast Like us on Facebook: The Cantina Cast Follow us on Instagram: The Cantina Cast Follow us on Tumblr: Cantina Cast Subscribe on YouTube: Cantina Cast Discord Channel: Cantina Cast Channel Ear Glue Media: Web Site Pandora Link: Pandora Cantina Cast SWCC Sign up Call or Text the Cantina Cast: 803-717-CAST Support the show: Cantina Cast Patreon page TeePublic Store
Whoa! That's a lot of Shmi! In this episode, Becca and Devon sit-down to discuss the Women in the galaxy far, far away. Women, in Star Wars, are like bookends. In other words, they support those around them, keeping the other characters upright and on the right path. One example of this analogy is Anakin Skywalker. Shmi is a bookend to keeping the chosen one inline and Padme' is the other pillar that keeps him in check. So, one might say, the women in his life were the bookends to his self-consciousness. That said, you strap yourselves in for this extra extra episode of Kanata's Castle! Women in the Galaxy far, far away are such an integral part of the Star Wars saga. So, to honor them and their roles in the Star Wars universe, Becca and Devon are ready to pay tribute by discussing as many women characters as they can, starting with Shmi Skywalker. As they work their way through the saga, they will be looking at character arcs and support systems by the women in the galaxy far, far away. In essence, highlighting the importance of bookend roles and how that characteristic enhances other characters and the storyline as well. Current News: 10th Anniversary of Star Wars: The Clone Wars Movie Jon Favreau Live Action Show to cost 100 million for 10 Episodes! That’s 10 mil per episode. Disney Streaming to launch 2019 with Jon/Filoni shows as the headliners. When asked about this specific topic on Twitter, Luke actor Mark Hamill suggested it as a possibility and noted that there are decades of unexplored space on the Star Wars timeline to fit in that type of story. Hamill wrote: “Maybe he did between Ep. 6 & 7. Many untold stories there.” Mentions: Follow our own Bala Tik sounding voice artist, Liam Howie @LunaticGrung Join the RetroZap Discord Server and interact with all the RetroZap content creators https://discord.gg/hrfQ3s Intro by the talented Vanessa Marshall - the voice of Herra in Star Wars Rebels. Give a hospitalized child a Starlight Brave Gown — and a huge smile — TODAY Tip Jar is on the Bar! https://www.ko-fi.com/K3K7GMEC Kanata's Castle Podcast LOGO T-shirts are Here! Thanks to Dan Z for having us on for a cup of “caf” on CWK Thanks to Roqoo Depot for supporting the show with a Kanata’s Castle T-shirt! Kanata's Castle Watch Party TV room - join - friend - follow for notifications of watch parties in the castle. Events starting in October 2018 https://www.rabb.it/Kanatascastle A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words:
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This week, Lynn and Natalie talk about character who deserves everyone's love and admiration: Shmi Skywalker, First of her Name, Mother of Jedi and Legends. Then we delve into the larger topic of older and more "motherly" characters being sidelined and not seen as marketable.
Just in time for the Feast of the Assumption of Mary, I look at the wonderful and wonderfully on-the-nose parallel between St. Mary the Virgin and Shmi Skywalker, their sons' mysterious Virgin births and their willingness to accept that their sons were called to greater things. I also go into the Entertainment Weekly issue on The Last Jedi and Mark Hamill's comments about Luke and Kylo Ren, as well as Fan Expo Canada, Star Wars Rebels and its prequel novel, A New Dawn.
To finish their discussion of The Phantomeness's totality, Riley, Jake, and Isaac debate: Qui-Gon's morality, Shmi's inevitable fatality, and the space battle's banality. It's all "-ality's", all the time on Grand Moff Talkin'!
ANAKIN, PADMÉ, CLIEGG, OWEN, BERU, and THREEPIO are standing around Shmi’s grave. Guest commentator: Tony Thaxton
SHMI'S eyelids flutter - and barely open. They are caked with blood. Guest commentator: Hal Lublin
A shaft of moonlight from a hole in the roof pierces the gloom of the hut. By its light, ANAKIN sees SHMI, hanging from a wooden frame in the middle of the hut. Guest commentator: Hal Lublin
SHMI hugs ANAKIN, then turns him around so he is facing QUI-GON, and off he marches, like the brave little trooper that he is. Guest Commentator: Mike Norton
JAR JAR gives ANAKIN a great hug, then PADME gives him a hug, then SHMI. Guest Commentator: Jordan D. White
PADME and JAR JAR jump up and down with excitment, PADME screaming for joy. ARTOO and KITSTER whistle hysterically. QUI-GON and SHMI smile. ANAKIN races over the finish line, the winner. Guest Commentator: Jenny Jaffe
SHMI looks nervously to QUI-GON as he enters a veiwing platform. PADME and JAR JAR are already on board. Guest Commentator: Paul Rust
QUI-GON puts the comlink away as SHMI comes onto the porch Guest Commentator: Tony Thaxton
SHMI sighs heavily. Guest Commentator: Dan Telfer
QUI-GON looks to SHMI. She is upset. Guest Commentator: Dan Telfer
You'll be amazed at how much we cram into this shorty episode! Karaoke War, Moovie Newz: a new Spider-Man, Bat Affleck, Hannibal, Anakin Skywalker, Indepenence Day, Channing Tatum, more BTTF AND MORE! You can listen on www.IHeardThatWasGood.com or our RSS feed, on iTunes, Stitcher and now TuneIn Radio!Tweet at the show! @IHeardThatWasGd We're ready to BELIEVE you.
Lance Foulis 0:01 Everybody, welcome to another bonus episode of the Lancelot roundtable. For this bonus episode, I wanted to try something new we hadn't previously done on the roundtable. Allow me to elaborate. When I was originally thinking of doing this bonus episode, I wanted it to be a review of the first season of the chosen TV series. Well, as we recorded, it turned out a bit differently than I had originally planned. So I wanted to explain three things before you listen to the episode. First thing, my special guest co-host, and I talk about reviewing the chosen throughout throughout our our talk. What actually happened during this recording wasn't really a review. Instead, I would say we just had a discussion about the chosen TV series as we recapped our thoughts and feelings for watching the first season. Second, as already stated, My original like what I was thinking about envisioning for this bonus episode was kind of a review of the entire season of the chosen TV series of the first season. Well, one episode recording for Lancelot roundtable was not even nearly enough time to do a quote review of an entire season of a TV TV series. So we we didn't even remotely get close to the end of the entire to like talking about the whole the whole first season of the chosen. And third, there are spoilers obviously in this in in our discussion of the chosen TV series. So listen at your own risk if you haven't seen it already. Now if you haven't, I really highly recommend it. So definitely, definitely take the time to go see it. Now I definitely hope that you enjoy listening to our discussion. And as always, thank you so much for taking the time to listen into the roundtable we really appreciate all of you that regularly listen in to our episodes.David Eckl 1:50 You get your paycheck today but every month you have to go to this hut stand in line and pay itLance Foulis 1:58 yeah cuz right now dude like we don't have to see how much taxes are coming out of our paycheck Yes, we just get our direct deposit and and then every time you look at your your your cheque and you're like, wait, you took how much my paycheck would have been what Hello, everybody and welcome back to land sloths roundtable. Today we have an episode where we are going to be reviewing a TV series. That TV series is called a chosen. And here to help me with that review is my good friend David eco. Dave, welcome to the roundtable. Hi,David Eckl 2:44 Lance. Happy to be here.Lance Foulis 2:45 Yeah, happy to have you man. So we are going to be doing a review of the chosen. You feel up for that.David Eckl 2:50 I am totally up for it. Sweet. One of the best. Yes,Lance Foulis 2:54 it's a fantastic fantastic series. Why don't you tell the people a little bit about yourself?David Eckl 2:59 Yeah, so Lance you and I met a couple of years ago couple couple it's I think it's been seven or eight it seems like it's been a couple but at the company we currently work for still today. I am a big apple aficionado as you well know we've already talked about that.Lance Foulis 3:15 Number eight your cubicle you had those like what was it like the original icons on the very first app or something like that?David Eckl 3:21 I had something like that a lot of Apple pictures now it's just working from home I don't have those anymore. So yeah, forget about it. But yeah, big apple time. Guy love it. love everything about it.Lance Foulis 3:33 They heard you kind of like golf toDavid Eckl 3:36 golf. Yes. Golf on the weekends in the summer is kind of my go to I really enjoy the time out on the course. My data to now has a month old, three year old. So it's a little hectic in the home. But we're making it you make it work, right? We make it work. That's for sure. There's two boys, right? Two boys, Olin and Bo and I'm really thankful for them. I love being a dad, as I'm sure you're well aware. Oh, it's fantastic. SoLance Foulis 4:06 it's I feel like it's one of the biggest challenges ever been through. But it's also one of the biggest rewards biggest adventure biggest reward? Yes. Especially when you really I feel like once we got past the infant stage. I mean, we've had this conversation before. When you're when for me personally, when I was in the infant stage, it was just lack of sleep really got to me. Yes. So once we got out of the infant stage and everybody's sleeping through the night, then it just becomes like, Oh, you're living with these little humans that have these really interesting personalities. They throw giant fits sometimes. And that's not fun, but it's still very fascinating. And then like when they do start Yeah, it's just it's very rewarding, right? challenging, but rewarding,David Eckl 4:42 right. One of my biggest things I like to say is the word bummer around the home, so bummer. Well now my three almost three year old is now walking around the house and saying Oh bummer. Yeah, when something isn't right and I'm like okay, they are little sponges.Lance Foulis 4:56 They are little sponges. They absorb everything. They watch everything they See it all? Yeah, it's kind of scary. Anyway. So today, Dave, we're going to review the chosen. I don't remember when I found out about this. I think the first season was out when I first heard about it, I think was one of our friends one of Kim's good friends. Christine, I think she messaged Kim or something because we were frustrated about, there's nothing that kids can watch. There's nothing, there's nothing good that we can watch. And then I think it was Christine who messenger on Facebook or something was like, Hey, I, you guys should just watch the chosen the kids loved our kids love the chosen and it's really good. And it's really well done. So then I found out that it was like, I'm putting this in quotes everybody a Christian show. And I personally have some thoughts about, again, Christian in quotes, content that gets created movies, right feel like you can kind of always tell when you see one of these TV shows or movies. Oh, yeah, this is this is done by one of those Christian. I don't even know what you'd call them. But with with this. So when I went in, I was like, I wasn't very excited about watching this. And I think Kim and I then watched, like the first episode, and I was literally just blown away. Everything. Everything was just spot on. The music was amazing. The acting was fantastic. And the emote, you were immediately drawn in. I just I loved it. I was hooked right away. YouDavid Eckl 6:29 Yeah, the theatrics of it. I think that's what you're looking for. There was just on point, like, it was one of those things where, especially in the day and age today, if you're not hooked from the start, or kind of get a little bit, you know, have a sense of Wow, that's good. You might not watch it past, you know, the intro or first, you know, a couple of minutes in there. 100% I think for my wife and I Katie, we're just like, wow, like, is intense. Yes, it is intense. It's kind of I like the it's a straight shot in terms of you know, what they're trying to talk about. It's not like they're trying to cover everything in one episode. It's spread out obviously over. Yep. And I really appreciated like, there's a very serious part in every thing that they're talking about. But there's also the humor. Yeah, that keeps you kind of coming back. Yes. It's funny. I really, you know, I, I watched season one and two, we watched it again. We're like, Let's go like, let's watch. Let's get to the other seasons. I know they have seven. Planning. Yeah, planning seven. So they are inLance Foulis 7:29 three right there inDavid Eckl 7:30 three. So three just got got funded, officially, the whole series, the whole series got funded. So the whole season, the whole season. So now they're going to start filming. Okay, so I'm excited. Yeah, very excited. It's actually I did have a couple of notes here that I was surprised about is actually shot in Utah. So season one into place. I knew that Utah, yeah. And they're now they moved it down to Dallas. And that's where season three and beyond will be shot. But also the cool part about it when I was reading about it, is that they're actually going to create a tourist attraction, where you can go seasonally, that's, and thanks. So I think that would be a fun kind of thing to go see how it's shot. And yeah, maybe some of the people are there that are the actors and you know, the different props and how they did it would be a cool thing to see. Yeah, take the kids 200%Lance Foulis 8:20 agree with that. I didn't know any of that. I don't even think I knew or were shot. I think I thought Season Two for some reason was in Texas, but that's probably just because I saw something about season three on Instagram because I followed the director Dallas Jenkins on Instagram. And he's always posting stuff about where they're at. And so I think I just saw something where they were in Dallas, or maybe because his name is Dallas. I thought that everything was just in Dallas. That's a good one. Oh, geez. Okay, sorry folks. We had a little bit of a technical glitch. I think the headphones I had David using are bad. And I thought I'd got rid of my bad headphones but anyway, here we are. We're back. We're back. We're live and we're recording technically not live so what I was saying is I have like this website the synopsis place so it has all of the I have episode one the different things that happened in episode one so I can kind of think through I was looking through this yesterday. I know you already have some notes, but I just thought we would start with season one. So I'm just I'm just remembering like yeah, firing it up and just immediately being like, wow, like the cinematography is good. The music's good. And I was pretty much immediately hooked. So if you can remember the episode one does a really good job of like enjoying a lot of different characters in a really interesting way. So I love how in episode one, they open with just it's it's nighttime, it's this little girl, it's her dad, there's a tent, so they don't even have like a home and she's afraid I think she You said she's afraid of the dark, essentially. And then her dad's I think he hands her the doll or she has the doll. Yep. And then he's like, What do we say? And then he, he quotes Isaiah, Isaiah 43, which says, Thus says the Lord who created you, oh, Jacob, and he who formed you, oh is real fear not for I have redeemed you, I have called you by name, you are mine. And she keeps that verse in her little doll. And then if you remember, like, immediately after that, like seeing the very next scene is essentially her dad dying of something. And then it cuts to several years later, when this little girl is all grown up, and she's in a city, and she's not having the best of times. What are your memories of of that opening?David Eckl 10:41 Yeah. So I like from the start, it seems like every single episode is a chance to say and be who is that? Like? Who like who is this little girl? And like, how many people are in the Bible? Hundreds or 1000s of people? And it's like, Wait, who is this one person? And who are they jumping in with? I do remember. I believe it was Mary. Right. And Mary, at a very young age, what we'll see in the next couple of episodes in terms of what she is going to become and then turn into but seen from the start her I don't know just innocence and who she was and just kind of like holding on to something special. I think a lot of times a lot of people have that one special thing that they kind of hold on to a doll, a bear a blanket, that being passed down to her and her holding on to that thing I feel like was just a quick kinda like, what is that? And that really from the start season one episode one like yeah, really captivates the audience and says, Okay, well, what is that? And even see, you know, the Isaiah 59 written on it. It's like, Okay, that's interesting. So, I don't know, that just kind of jumped right into it from the start for me where it's like, what is that? Yeah, kind of follow along. And every single episode that you watch really is either a flashback, or some kind of fast forward to what's going to be talked about any episode and kind of ties back to it later in the episode. So yeah, I think what we see initially we'll, we'll get to that, but we'll come back into that picture eventually.Lance Foulis 12:12 Yeah, I that's a really good way to put put it when you were saying like, how, like, a lot of times they start an episode. And you don't know, it's these new characters that you haven't seen yet. Even like in later episodes, it won't start with the characters that you've known. It'll be like a brand new character, and they're doing something you're like, What are they doing? And then, and then it clicks at some point, because they go through and they're doing what they're doing. And all of a sudden, it's like, Oh, this isn't even like Jesus's time. This is this Jacob, right? Oh, that's Jacob and his sons. Oh, that's what they're doing. And like, that's just so fascinating how they do that almost like, I think last, the TV series last was the first one that I can remember that would jump around time, like that. But yeah, like how I liked how it opens. And then it's like this little girl on you're like, I don't know who this is. She's got a dad. She's living in a tent. She has this doll. They know God. So clearly, this must be an Israelite, right? But I don't know who this is. This isn't Jesus. Because it's a little girl.David Eckl 13:13 I like it. Yeah, it for me. I think the context like it would be it would feel off if there was like a context to say, here's what this is. And here's the time. And here's the story. It gives me that sense of okay, what is this and trying to think through the entire Bible? Like, okay, what are they talking about from this first episode? Now watching it over again? I, I know what they're talking about. But it gives that kind of, okay, what is this? Exactly? And where are they in the Bible? And what is the story showing us?Lance Foulis 13:44 Yeah, it's like, it's like, it's a really interesting way to take it creatively. Because instead of, if they like, opened with a paragraph to place you where you are with who you are, instead of doing that what they're doing is they're just letting you be a fly on the wall. Right and experience what's going on and like, yeah, so I liked how they set that up. And when we say its merits, it wasn't, I mean, spoiler alert, this has been out for a while. So if you're listening to this, you know, pause it and go watch the first season or the first episode and then so we don't spoil anything for you. But the Mary that it is actually Mary Magdalene, so it's not like Mary Jesus's mom. So super interesting that that's the character that they introduced, introduced us with, it was intentional. I'll just say that it was intentional that we start with her. And then the next scene that they have here is with Nicodemus, you so you there's somebody traveling along the road, and he's wearing a nice outfit, he's got a girl, clearly his wife that he's traveling with, and he's got like priestly garments on and then Romans show up like Romans with armor and everything show up and they're basically the Romans are coming to tell him we don't know who this guy is yet, but he seems to be an importer. are in person. So the Roman guard is basically like, hey, people are fishing when they shouldn't be fishing and we're not getting taxes. Is that basically the setup? I believe so? Yeah. Because it's like, we need our taxes, and they're fishing when you people aren't supposed to do any work. And we're not getting taxes for that. So you need to, you need to make us put a stop to this. And that guy, he's a little bit like, I don't do your work, and they're like, well, you're going to anyway, so that's what I remember. Is that what you remember?David Eckl 15:26 Yeah, Nicodemus is a he's an important character in the full season one, like looking at it and really seen him from the start, you know, he is of importance with when they're riding, I believe it was horse and chariot like he is sitting like a king. And his role, what you'll see throughout the entire season one and season two, actually is is very important, but just to hear what he has to say and how he handles certain things he's getting he's got a little bit of some intrigue to him about what's going on. And understanding okay, something's something's up. Like he seems like there's something going on. And just in that early episode, and that early interaction with the Romans, something's not right. There's some something missing there that keeps intriguing you Yes. Okay. What is okay, what's going on here? Yeah. Yeah, that was a good, that was a good start. I really liked that. Start to add to see Nicodemus and what he eventually will do, and how he meets Jesus and talks to him. And that's tough. So you can kind of see right away this is kind of getting into the story of Jesus and what is going to come?Lance Foulis 16:42 Yeah, yeah, it's this show does a really good job of getting you invested not just in a singular character, but like, it sets up like a full story of like so many individual characters, and they're all very, very, very unique. Yes. And they all are drawn to this guy, Jesus, for very different reasons, yet kind of the saint, it's how they do that is really, really, really well done. And by the way, I always do this whenever I'm watching something, if I see if I see an actor, I'm like, oh, what else have I seen him in? So the guy that plays Nicodemus, his the actor's name is Erick Avari, who's actually a fairly well known actor. He was in like the first scene of Independence Day, he's the guy that wakes up and hits his head on a thing because somebody wakes him up, and he's monitoring for alien activity. First time I saw this actor was in actually Stargate. He plays like the main guy in the movie Stargate, sorry, the chief of like the locals. He's like the chief or the locals. So anyway, they got a that was that was one of the I don't think I recognized any of the other actors in this series. But I did recognize him. So I just wanted to call that out. Okay, so the next is there anything else you want to say about that scene? Good to go. Okay. All right. Then the next scene, we are introduced to Matthew, a tax collector. He's an Israelite, but he collects taxes for the Romans. And he is the actor that plays. Matthew is Paris Patel. And he's an Outstanding Actor in this role. Do you remember that? You remember that scene.David Eckl 18:19 Matthew is interesting, from the direction that he plays in this first off in the Bible, but then also in this series, just about where he comes from, and where it he is doing and how he goes about himself is interesting, because he's, he's truly unlike anyone else. Because everyone doesn't like him. Yeah. So any, we get into it with throughout the seasons, and the series is of how he kind of handles himself. But in this situation, we see him early about what he is going to be doing and what he is called to do. And I remember in kind of that first episode that Matthews just kind of, he's a little different. Yeah. And how he handles himself and seeing that i He's another one of those characters. That's like we now in been introduced to three characters already tuned. Mary, Nicodemus and Matthew, they all have this interesting type of thing to him. Yeah. And it's another one of those notches that's like, Okay, what is this and what's going on? Let's find out more about what they're about. Obviously, when you introduce a tax collector into this series, that it's going to obviously interrupt throw people off because it's someone that a lot of people don't like, and it kind of creates that maybe a bad character right off the right off the bat, like, yeah, why is this guy collecting taxes? Let's not show about him, but he was just as important to Jesus as anyone else. So yeah, it was early on he kind of get that feel for who he is and what he's gonna. What he's going to be for the for the show.Lance Foulis 19:59 Yeah. So like in the scene, he's like, on his way to his work, and he can't take a direct route, because that would put could put him at danger because like you said, a tax collector is not a very liked individual, they're collecting taxes for Rome, I think historically, they were known to, you know, maybe make people pay a little bit more than what they had to pay. And they would kind of take a little extra for themselves. So they were kind of like, despise and especially if, if you're an Israelite, which Matthew is, your all Israelites are subject under Rome right now. And he's working for, quote, the enemy. Because you're, you're under the you're under the rule of Rome, but you're your own ethnic group. And the fact that you're collecting taxes for the Romans, but you're actually an Israelite, there's, like, inherent levels of feelings of betrayal that we get into, obviously, but just the fact that he's very isolated kind of individual, he seems to like it first. But he seems to also not be happy about it. And just the nature of him not even being able to take a direct route to work and having almost smuggle himself. And then he gets there. And then that's when he has protection, because there's Roman guards there to kind of keep him safe, right, which we find out later. Well, we'll get to it.David Eckl 21:16 But even like in that's in that first scene, when he's going to work, what you see about him is he is trying to be as clean as possible. I think he thinks everyone else is dirty, you always see kind of not touching things, or just kind of being a little standoffish. And it's like, Okay, what's going on here? Like, do you not, you know, he is is or like, you not associate with these people? Yeah, because you are now the tax collector. It's, it is interesting.Lance Foulis 21:47 That just that reminds me because I think in the opening scene is when he's at his house, right? Yes. And he's like, got like a whole plate of food, like nice food, what you probably consider nice food. He's like dabbing, like, oils on himself or whatever to smell good. And then he puts on these really nice looking leather sandals, which he then proceeds to step in, poop. And then he, alright, we had a little bit of a hiccup there. I just caught it out of corner, my eye it stopped recording. So now we're recording again. So I think what I was just saying is like, this guy, Matthew, the character that we're introduced to, he's got his own. He has a backup pair of sandals. And you can kind of I got the sense that nobody says anything. But like, Oh, those are probably extra expensive sandals. These are like some Nike, you know, Jordan whatever's Yes, theyDavid Eckl 22:33 are. They are not, they are not the Old Navy $5 Summer sandal. These are not thatLance Foulis 22:40 these are not those sandals. Yeah, they're just like that these are be super expensive. And not the the average person couldn't have it. And then he goes, and he walks steps in some poop. And he immediately has a backup pair that he can replace. And there's even that character that is he gets into the back of the guy's wagon, but the character is like, Oh, you're throwing those away, because you stepped in poop, give them to me that I could sell them and feed my family for a month. He said something like that. So we can tell that Matthew is very wealthy? He has. I don't know, he has a status type job. And he's just in a comfortable type position, I guess I would sayDavid Eckl 23:15 He is very young. It's a good point of his age and might not be the wisest to make the decision will spoiler it also later on, you'll see with his parents, his parents don't agree with him being a tax collector, right at all. So I think he is a little young and immature in the fact that he chose this route for his life. Yeah. And he's kind of going about it on his own. Yeah, to figure things out.Lance Foulis 23:42 Yep. Yeah, that's good. All right. And then we go the next scene, it takes us back to Nicodemus, who has arrived at a synagogue and we basically, then it basically shows us how important he is. Because when he arrives at the synagogue, all of the people in the synagogue had been waiting for him to arrive. And basically, they start calling him like the Teacher of teachers. He's just you get a sense, like, this isn't just some random priestly guy. This isn't just some random Pharisee. Like this is somebody who's really high up there on whatever this hierarchy is. Do you have any thoughts about that scene?David Eckl 24:19 Just that you see, especially in the synagogue, you see early on the tradition and the history of what faith meant to people. And it was the history of Nicodemus being what they called him the teacher.Lance Foulis 24:34 All right, another technical issue, but we are back. Okay, we were talking you were talking about the Teacher of teachers.David Eckl 24:41 Nicodemus being the Teacher of teachers. And what we had talked about was him being that to so many people, at that certain time that whenever he would go someplace he had that respect for everyone else, or that everyone else had would have the respect for him and he would, everyone would look at him as a And person in that day because that's all they had to go for because of his faith at that time. So it was a very important person in the early go of this and what people's faith was at that time.Lance Foulis 25:15 Yeah. Yeah, that's good. I was I was kind of blown away because they had prepared a reading room for him. And so he gets in, and like everything set up where he's going to be reading what scrolls he's got, they have the pen thing that that so like, they have this thing that looks like a pen. And it's like, when they read, they're moving this thing along each word. So they're not actually writing anything, but it's like an instrument that they use when they actually read, which was wild. So they're like, is everything set, you know, to your standards? I think they had like some snacks there. And he's like, Yeah, that's fine, thank you. But I was just like, man, person arrives and like you have your own reading area set up and all of these very particular things like that's some that's some level of status, for sure. Okay, and then I one thing that's important to point out about this particular scene is that when it ends, a Roman shows up and proceeds to usher himself into this room, which is apparently like a no, no kind of disrespectful, and they're like, well, like all the other guys are like, What are you doing? You can't just walk in here? And he's like, Yes, I actually can. Thank you. And that's when the Romans are like to Nicodemus the character, like, we have a problem. There's a demon possessed person there. There was another scene, I think, that we had had where it flashes back to Mary and she's having some major issues. She actually sees. She sees a Rome and I think, and then she has a flashback, of of like earlier on, and it's just a silhouette of a Roman soldier coming into the room where she's at shutting the door, and you can infer what happened to her. She was a victim at that point. And then when she has that memory, she's having that memory from seeing a Roman in real time. And then like is messing with her? Like she you can just tell she's in a real turmoil, and then Then she's having issues in a room. Did I miss anything? You did notDavid Eckl 27:17 the one character I was gonna bring up in, really the start of it that will see important throughout everything is Schmell. Oh, yeah, shimmy. Well, Chanel, Chanel, like just the name of it. It's like, Who is this? Yeah, who is he? He I believe the guy was like, set up the room, right? Yes. And he was, I believe the right hand man to Nicodemus, that sounds right. Yeah, he was almost the next in line. And it does definitely the sense that you get it and yes, and there's something particular about him that was interesting, where he was, okay, what's going on? Like another one of those characters that's like, Okay, we have Mary, who is in this state of turmoil, turmoil. And then you have Roman guards, you have Matthew, and just one of those people that were keeping track of that. I mean, I've read the Bible, pretty much in my entire life. I haven't heard of him before, right in the Bible. So another a character that was, I believe, in the book, but also important in this to show kind of who Nicodemus is, and give them that support to what he's going to do.Lance Foulis 28:19 Yeah. Did you know when you say like you would read? Do you remember anybody named schmo shimmy? Well, in the Bible, not to my knowledge. Yeah, me either. But that's one cool thing about I think the series is that it introduces, it introduces characters that fit in in the world, and bring it more to life, I think. But yeah, he's a very interesting character, because your mind knows like, I'm cutting the track with this person. And you don't know why. But yeah, the show does a really good job of that. I think, like, oh, I need to need to pay attention to this guy is like as soon as Nicodemus arrives, this character from UL is like, Oh, I'm so glad that you're here. I've set up this room for you and like yelling at the Roman guard, you're not allowed in here. And then so one funny thing that happens when we're kind of all over the place, but it is what it is. When the Roman guard or when the Roman soldier shows up and they're like Nicodemus, you need to go down to the red quarter because there's somebody who's having a demon possessed situation and we can't have it. And he's taught. I don't think we know but you could probably have inferred it. They're talking about Mary Mary's having a severe issue. Some kind of demon possession type of a thing is what they're alluding to. And Nicodemus Nicodemus, his response is like, I don't, I don't deal with affairs of Rome, that's you need to deal with that. And then the Roman soldier is like, what did he say? He said something like you need to go take care of it. Your Way or or Rome will take care of it with our fire of fires. I don't remember what he said like before he said fires of fires, but that was hilarious because he basically was like, he asked nicely the first time then Nicodemus was like, No, that's Rome's problem. And then he's like, Well, Oh, you're actually going to do it, or we're going to just go down and destroy the place.David Eckl 30:04 It's, it was an interesting scene, quote unquote, where he went to go do that. Like he did not want to go down this Yeah. Or they can Amos did not want to do that.Lance Foulis 30:15 Yeah, it's a super it's so like, you definitely get the sense in this scene that it's a very edgy, not great area of town is the place that you don't want to go visit. You're not safe there. All of the deplorables are there. So this this high up guy wants nothing to do with going to that area of town.David Eckl 30:36 Right? Yeah, it is. It's going to be an interesting scene in it to see that someone that was possessed to being that taking out of them of what's to come there. Yeah. It's not an area that he wanted to go to but their own. The only true way for her to come out of that was for Nicodemus to go down there. Interesting that the Roman guard would say, hey, like, you need to take care of it instead of us. Because you would think with someone being possessed, you would probably choose the fire fires for them rather than saying, hey, Nicodemus, you need to go take care of them. Yeah. And then have that come out of her?Lance Foulis 31:16 Yeah, yeah. So yeah, it was a very, very, very interesting scene. So like, obviously, once that scene is over, it cuts from Nicodemus his storyline, essentially over to two brothers. So the next thing we're introduced to Simon Peter, and his brother, Andrew, and what are they doing?David Eckl 31:38 They are, were they fishing, theyLance Foulis 31:41 are gambling. They were in they were using, they were fighting. Simon Peter was like, basically in a boxing street match with this other guy who we find out later is his brother in law. And they're basically gambling and betting on Simon. They don't explain the rules. But basically, Simon is getting just punched around. And you kind of figure out that he's, he's playing the game. He's not really as hurt as he's letting on. He's not almost done, as he's letting on. And his brother Andrew is like looking on telling him you got to take another punch. And then Sam Peters, like, I don't want to take another one. And then his brother Andrew is like no, like, it's all like signals, right? Nobody's saying anything. They're just making looks at each other. And then he's like, No, you gotta take another one. So then he takes another punch. And he's acting like super hurt. Simon Peter is acting like he's super hurt. He's not called Simon Peter yet. He's just called Simon. And and then he like, Does this really cool hop, kicks himself up onto his feet after something apparently went the right way. And then he starts beating the tar out of the other guy. So Simon all of a sudden flips the tables, and is clearly not as hurt he said he had seemed to be and then he beats down the other guy who's his brother in law, which I don't even know if it reveals that. I don't think so. Any any thoughts on on on that?David Eckl 33:03 Interesting that fighting is something that's prevalent in the day and age and everything that's going on, obviously, it's another one of those things where we were introduced to Mary first now Nicodemus, and then when we're introduced to Matthew, and now we're introduced to more disciples of Christ, and you see that and like, what they're going to become for Jesus, and like, in the fighting aspect of it for me, I was like, okay, like, this is interesting. I'm not too much into fighting. Like, I don't like to watch it, you know, but I understand back then, obviously, it was some hobby that people enjoy doing. And they wouldLance Foulis 33:44 was a form of entertainment when you didn't have a TV, no TV or watch a couple of days.David Eckl 33:48 Exactly. each other. Exactly. And they would gamble on it. And that was the afternoon of fun when they weren't working. It was it was interesting.Lance Foulis 33:56 Yeah. Yeah. And I also like thinking about overall how they do the TV show. Like if you've if, if you have been and like, I grew up in the church, I grew up reading my Bible. Well, actually, I didn't really start reading my Bible until I was older. I thought it was boring. But in reading the Bible in, you know, if you've gone to Sunday school, you've heard stories, you know, Peter, he's like, he's a top tier character and your brightness if you know the story of the Bible, Andrew, not so much a top tier character, but still an important character Jesus top to your character, Nicodemus. Now, I don't even know if he's literally mentioned in the Bible. He is He is maybe once or twice, okay, so he's a real character. Yes. And then Mary Magdalene, she is as well, but again, not a key character, Matthew, I don't really remember reading. I mean, he wrote one of the books in the Bible, but I don't really remember noticing him is a character that had a bunch of stories in the Bible. And what's interesting about this, this series is they don't, they don't start you off with a character writers that you're expecting like, Oh, it's a story about Jesus, we still haven't seen Jesus yet. And we're like, what three or four scenes in still haven't met Jesus don't know where he is. Don't know who he is. Maybe we have seen him, we don't know. And then finally, now we're just getting introduced to somebody that people that know the story of the Bible, they would know. Oh, Peter, I know who Peter is. His name was his name was Simon. So he's not the first character Mary is the first character, which is really fascinating to me. Okay, so basically, we get the sense that Simon is maybe not your he he may be isn't your the role model that you would want your kids to model themselves after he's gambling, he's fighting, trying to get money. And we realized, I don't remember if we realize in the scene, but basically, they need money. So they're trying to figure out how to make money because they haven't been making enough money fishing. And then we find out that Peter is married, which I think was a very fascinating take. I don't personally have any theories on whether or not he was actually married, except for I was reading mark the other night. And it did say, talk about his mother in law was sick, and that Jesus healed his mother and see that so if he has a mother in law, and again, I don't know the actual Hebrew of the book of Mark, but I remember reading that it's a mother in law, not his mother. So did you have any? What did you think when you saw Peter is married and his wife's name is EdenDavid Eckl 36:30 Simon is a very interesting character in this, you know, there's something about him when you're watching just kind of funny,Lance Foulis 36:38 witty, yes, he good humor,David Eckl 36:41 yes, has good humor, something about him. And when you go into the scene initially, like with him fighting, and then finding out he has a wife, there's some kind of, I don't know, sleight, I would say in terms of what he is doing and trying to do and get, you know, obviously, money to be able to pay taxes to be able to live to be able to do certain things. So he's trying to find all these different routes to take to be able to do something. Especially Andrew mean, his brother's a little bit, I would say, a little bit more wise, in terms of just is nature. But Simon is, is an interesting character, I think he's going to be great. And it's like, you would never have pictured if this was the first time you're watching or reading or following along with this. And you have no history of the Bible, or what it's talking about. The people that are starting to come into the scene. I don't think anyone would have an idea that they're all going to be together. Yeah, at some point. You know, it's like, way these stories,Lance Foulis 37:44 Jesus is gonna pick all these people to be in his troop. Yeah. See that? Because they're all two different.David Eckl 37:49 Yes. All different corners, the high levels, low levels, fighting people demon possessed. Simon is an interesting one, especially Andrew, and this.Lance Foulis 38:00 Yeah. And just like all the other characters that we've mentioned, they're all all of the actors are fantastic. And Paris Patel, like we were saying is, is who plays Matthew, I've never seen him in anything before. Shahar. Isaac is who plays Simon and he is super ripped. Yes, super ripped. And he's a fantastic actor. And I didn't think of this until you were kind of talking about it. But are you we're talking about Simon and Andrew but they have really great chemistry. Like you totally can believe that. They're brothers the way that they get they're very different. And just how they interact with each other is very brotherly. Which I guess you would expect but it's it's well done to theirDavid Eckl 38:41 jobs in nature of being fishermen. Like you need to be very muscular you need to have a lot of I would say mind power but also that body power to be able to take these nets bringing all these fish you know do those kinds of things and do that I feel like getting yourLance Foulis 38:59 fingers all caught up with those nets you probably have major calluses I mean, have you ever seen Deadliest Catch people? Did you ever see that show? Deadliest Catch? No. Oh my gosh, I was really into that show like I don't know how long ago but yeah, it's just these fishermen in Alaska that go out and like get crab and it's super dangerous like the weather can turn in an instant and yeah, so anyway,David Eckl 39:21 but the net like there's no modern technology there's no hooks to be able to pull things in manually or automatically from the boats. It's your hands are out there. You're pulling in these fish you need to be very muscular and well fit to be able to withstand the days and you know, they're not just hanging out on the boat about getting suntan out the hair. They're right. They're working. You know, it is a working man's job and that is something that is very important to see. Yeah, in the visual of that too. I you know, you resonate a little bit with that, that they are relentless in their efforts to find a wage to support your family to support your why If Yeah, the mother in law for assignment isn't sick yet we don't see her right sick that will come eventually. But to be able to provide for the family is huge in this situation in this instance. So yep, I feel like he's going to all ends to figure out how we can bring in money for that.Lance Foulis 40:15 Yep. And like, it is really interesting when you meet Eden, you can see like, Oh, this is Simon's house, this is his wife, you get the sense that they're really young, like, like, in in that culture, you've alluded to this, but in that culture, you're the guy, you're out there and you gotta you got to do what you got to do to bring in provision. And if you don't do it, you and your wife starve your wife is home, taking care of things, getting food ready, taking care of the house, so that the house stays in order. But I just remember, I don't remember if it was this scene, but just kind of like the scenes that that we have with Peter, or excuse me with Simon and Eden, is just his, the burden, you can see the burden that he's carrying in need wanting to take care of his wife, and there's even like, Andrews around, he's doing stuff too. But you could you just get this set. I got this sense watching Peter. He's, it felt to me like he's more newly married, maybe a year, maybe two years or whatever. But like, he's just got this burden of responsibility on him. Like, I've got to take care of stuff. And I just feel that way. And I remember being young and married Kim, I was 25. When Kim and I got married, she was 21. I did not have an established career, but I can remember the burden of like, I need to be able to provide for my family. And like when things aren't going well. I can remember many times when things wouldn't go well. And it just seems like things aren't going right. And so just I just remember getting this set, getting that sense and feeling for Peter, especially as we get to know him like, things aren't easy. I can kind of see why he's making decisions that he's making that I wouldn't necessarily make. But he is under like a level of duress. Did you get any feelings like that?David Eckl 41:59 Yeah, so Eden is very much so a character a person that is really being forward in terms of how she's, you know, trying to be a wife to Simon and I think, especially the scenes I know what you're talking about, like where you're seeing her, you know, make food she's doing the laundry, she's cleaning up the house, you know, Simon's a lot of times I think I remember vividly and there is that Eden, said to said to her was there said to him said, Well, you know, where are you going? He's like, I gotta go, I'll be back. And like one of the things like he's going to do something to either make money to do something for fishing, but he's trying to figure it out where the responsibility now isn't just on his own. It's to provide for his family. Yeah. And seeing that was was key too.Lance Foulis 42:51 Yeah. So okay, so the next scene, we actually go back to Nicodemus and he is traveling through the seedy area of town. They call it the red quarter. It's where unsavory characters are, and they're walking around I think it's just funny because you got Nicodemus I think she she Manuel's like, to your point before he's like, right behind them right hand guy, I'm putting that in quotes. And there's like two or three other these guys, you can just tell they're incredibly out of their element. They're very uncomfortable, I think they see either prostitutes, or slaves or slaves that are prostitutes, like on the corner on the corner of the street. I'm putting that in quotes. Because it's, it's there's an image that happens and you just see them kind of look and make eye contact. When you see Nicodemus and his cohorts making eye contact with this scene, where these people are either getting sold or they're they're standing on a corner waiting to be purchased or something like that. You can just tell Oh, no, I need to avert my eyes. I shouldn't even be seeing what I'm seeing and they're traveling to go deal with this situation. And then when they get close to it, they have the audio of what we assume is Mary because there's a room or like I guess what we could call an apartment and you can just hear growling wailing very just noises that make you feel something's very very offDavid Eckl 44:22 very uneasy, very uneasy. Yes. And even going into it it's I mean, you don't there's no other show or series that you would see something like this being talked about or shown like it's not something you would watch on TV it's very much you know, she was demon possessed. And hearing those things it's like what is going on here like you know, you're intrigued to find out more you want to keep watching you don't want to like turn away you want you want to see what she might be going through and what this Nicodemus who, besides the Roman guards potentially As the top guy, you know, in the city, the Teacher of teachers coming in to treating probably one of the lowest type of people in the city. Yep. And having an interaction where it's, this doesn't happen too often. Right? Let's watch it. Let's get into it.Lance Foulis 45:17 Yeah, absolutely. And you can tell I mean, they do a really good job of setting up like, okay, something is really like you're hearing these noises that are coming from that room and you're like, Okay, this is actually very serious. And this guy, yeah, should be able to do something in this situation, but he doesn't look like he's not inspiring a whole lot of confidence in what he's going to do. But then he kind of takes charge he goes, he looks to his dude Shmi well, and he basically is like, go get these ingredients, some kind of bark and some kind of incense thing and like, go get it quickly. And so that guy runs off come back and then he's got like, nicotine has has like, some branches I think with some things that he's got like an incense thing. So it's like smoking out. So So it's basically like a chain. And at the end of the chain is like a big, I don't know, bowl type of enclosed bowl thing and there's smoke coming out. So there's some kind of hot coals in there. This like burning something is making smoke and so then he goes in, he's got his, quote tools, his exorcism tools, and he goes into the room. And they made this part like, pretty, pretty scary. In my opinion, it was a little bit more, they pushed, they pushed an edge that like kind of what you said earlier, you wouldn't see the type of a thing in any kind of Christian type production. I wouldn't expect they're not pulling any punches. It's like yes, this lady is in severe torment. And it's a it's a demonic possession. And she's just kind of like moving around on the floor you don't see her face it's just the back of the face and then it comes to the point he's like talking and like the her like the stuff that's coming I have no not even say like her voice because it's not her voice it's like what the noises are coming out of her vocal cords are changing and getting more intense and then she like turns to look at him as he's like saying the stuff that he's saying he's like I juror you get out leave this woman alone. And like then it like her face turns to look at them. And the way that they did that was wow, I was really on the edge of my seat. What are your thoughts? ThisDavid Eckl 47:32 like the story is in the Bible, so it is true. And I like initially you said that you watched it with your kids thisLance Foulis 47:41 Oh, we didn't watch this scene with the kid. Okay, okay. Well, that's all day would have nightmares for a whileDavid Eckl 47:45 because I don't know how they would be able to do it. But I thinkLance Foulis 47:49 it was the episode The next step or three episode three which is with the kids that's the one episode they've seenDavid Eckl 47:54 the what we initially talked about to the theatrics of it yes show. You know that look, and I do vividly remember that image of Mary looking at Nicodemus in what is going on is scary. Yeah, like it is very much like anything could happen. Yeah, Ines. But also at the same time, it's one of those things that keeps you coming back for more. Yeah, this demon possessed person Mary is now changing. It's coming out of her in some way. Yeah, she is going to change and do something else. And it's like, we had no other history or story of Mary at the start of this other than when she was with her dad initially. Yep. And then she young innocent kid. Exactly. And then she goes into this state over after years of torment to be able to get to this and now it's going to be a massive change to be in doing something to glorify, what's to come and that's just amazing. Yes. And I know Nicodemus in the future in this story to it, he goes into talking a little bit more about you know, what he saw there? And what he had to go through and I mean, that's just one of those notches on the belt or it's like wait, you went and faced a demon possessed person and said these things and we're in that room? I just couldn't believe what it would be like no real time outside of shooting this for the for the show, but it just unbelievable.Lance Foulis 49:19 Yeah, like the fact that he even had the courage to go into the room is wild because if I encountered something like that in real life one I wouldn't know what to do and to just you don't know what you're gonna face when you get in there and you're trying to do something like he went in there and Elise tried Now obviously, like it failed, because the thing talked through Mary like after she is basically like, what did what did what did it say these like, we don't know you or we don't care essentially, like we're not listening to you. We don't have to listen to you. Like get out of here. We're done with you. And then he is like, just shocked and basically he just leaves in And she's not okay. And then that's that's basically the end of the scene. Yeah. It was, it was a very intense scene. Any other thoughts there?David Eckl 50:09 I don't know how Nicodemus like he was obviously told to do it. He was going to save this, Mary, you know, he didn't know what was going to come out of it, he was going to give it his best effort to being able to healer. And has just like, that's the reality of it. Some people have that still today. And it's even seeing that how he had dealt with it was just for me, it was It was eye opening, because I'd never seen that before. In anything. Yeah. And reading it. In the Bible, you don't get that kind of context of what the video or picture of it would, would be able to show you.Lance Foulis 50:48 Yeah, it's one thing to read in the Bible that this, you know, so and so is demon possessed, and the demons would throw him on the ground. And he would convulse for a few minutes. Like, it's like, you read that and you don't go okay. But then when you see it portrayed like that, they did it in this were like this individuals in torment, and they're, they can't do anything to help themselves in that situation is very eerie and freaky. And yeah, eye opening. I think you said that.David Eckl 51:14 It's not like you have the popcorn bowl right next to and you're grabbing it to eat more of it. You're like, not blinking. eyes focused? Yeah, every single second of it. And it's like, wait, what? Like, this is going to come out of this person, and she's going to be completely different. It's like, what,Lance Foulis 51:32 how do we get there? Yeah. How in the world are we going to get there? Yeah. One thing to call out here, because like her name, and my little like, website here, we know her as Lillith right now, we haven't made the connection that it's Mary. It's good point. Because that's a that's a very important thing is that we know this individual that her name is Lilith, and we don't know anything else about her other than what we've described, but nobody's called her Mary in this point. Sure. Because that's a very important thing for the close of the episode we're getting to so anyway, basically, that after Nicodemus leaves, some time passes, and then we find Lilith waking up. And she wakes up. This is important because she she has like a flashback of being with her father. And I think in this scene, yeah, she gets her she finds her doll. And like in the doll is the piece of paper she pulls out and it's the that scripture from Isaiah and so she's kept it this whole time, is she's looking at it now after having gone through this episode. And you can kind of tell like, this has happened to her before. She's just so done. I'm so sick of having to go through this stuff like can't anything like no nothing can and then she I think she rips up the piece of paper, which is a very like intense like, she had been carrying it this whole time. So whatever breaking point she is, she's at it is an intense breaking point, because she's taken this thing that she's kept with her, essentially came from her father cheese destroying it was a very intense scene,David Eckl 53:03 very intense, especially something now you've had for that many years. And then you've gotten to that breaking point to be able to do that it's eye opening to see that and I remember, even in future episodes, she ends up reciting that verse from from memorization. So it's something that she still has in her heart that she's living with. But the symbolism of her taking that piece of paper and tearing it up seems like you know, there's a breaking point that she just had to kind of forget that maybe the past that she just went through a page turned to what's going to come.Lance Foulis 53:37 Yep, that's good. All right. And so then we go back to last, these are the basically the last couple scenes here. We'll go through these kind of quickly. So it's tax day, and people are going to the tax booth to pay their taxes. So we are we witness Andrew and Simon going to the tax booth where Matthew is Matthew is revealed to be their tax collector, and they get there and they basically figure out that because of back taxes and everything else that they owe way more than they are Andrew was way more than they thought and Andrew cannot pay his taxes. And he's at the point, okay, we can't pay your taxes, you're gonna go to jail. Because if you couldn't pay your taxes, then you got thrown in jail where you would never be able to pay your taxes. So you basically that's it, you're you're done your life's over. And then that's when Simon tells Matthew and reveals, hey, I've got a I have an agreement with the main Roman magistrate and the magistrate. I was looking this up yesterday. I should have had this up on my on my iPad here. But a magistrate is somebody who has like pretty extensive authority. right in line with Caesar. So Simon is basically saying he has an arrangement on his taxes and Andrews taxes with the magistrate Quintus Who was the guy who was bossing Nicodemus around at the beginning of the episode and So he's basically telling Matthew Hey, you know, we don't, we won't be owing taxes because of the arrangement. Once I'm done with what I'm doing for Quintus all my taxes and all Andrews taxes will be done. And Matthew being Matthew, he doesn't believe them. Because Matthew is like, no, like you're not trustworthy, it just something doesn't make sense. There's no way you could have made this arrangement. So he doesn't believe him. But that's essentially where that scene ends. Did you have any thoughts there?David Eckl 55:24 The image I have from that Matthew, collecting taxes right outside of it is the Roman guard. standing there like kind of just making sure everything's kind of going to order is yes, yeah. And guys is when he hears Andrew and Simon talk, he's like, something's not right with these guys. Something's up. SoLance Foulis 55:41 it's kind of side looking like what's going on over there?David Eckl 55:44 Yes. and Canada. He is Gaius is Matthews kind of guard to go take him around to places and they chose to create an interesting relationship over time, but like, Matthew is truly protected because of Gaius. But also in this scene, it's interesting to see like, where you pay taxes it's not like you know, they're taken out of your paycheck you know, you're surely going to this huddle, youLance Foulis 56:08 have to show up with your your funds in hand. Yes. And pay it stop what you're doing. No, you cannot go work during this time. You have to show up and you have to bring your taxes and if you don't do it, you're gonna be in a world of hurt. Yes.David Eckl 56:20 Pay what to Caesar. What is Caesar's,Lance Foulis 56:22 again, like just the feeling that you get, it's just the burden on these people to do what? To pay their taxes to do what they need to do. It's just the burden feels very heavy. As you're as you're watching it.David Eckl 56:35 It'd be interesting. If that was today, though. Yeah. When I was thinking about it, like, how would you put yourself in their shoes, like you get your paycheck today, but every month, you have to go to this hut? Stand in line, and pay it?Lance Foulis 56:49 Yeah, cuz right now, dude, like, we don't have to see how much taxes are coming out of our paycheck. Yeah, we just get our direct deposit and, and then every time you look at your, your, your check in, you're like, wait, you took how much? My paycheck would have been? What? So like, it is kind of funny that to your point is like, they have to like show up and like, here's my taxes. And it's not like you're getting anything. I mean, technically you're, I guess not getting invaded by barbarians or whatever. ButDavid Eckl 57:17 yeah, that's the ledger. Lance, is kind ofLance Foulis 57:21 in front of everybody, right? Like, you'd have to go to this tax person. And they clearly have an idea who Matthew is. He's an Israelite, and he's telling them you have this Oh, and because you didn't pay here, and he's doing like math. And you remember, he's like doing math in his head with his fingers. So you can tell like, he's very gifted with numbers. But this guy is basically telling you like, no, that's not enough. What you just brought isn't enough, you need that. So like you're already like, in a state of humility. Like in that situation, the other guy wins. Because what are you going to do? You can't argue in this situation,David Eckl 57:51 maybe I'm okay with how taxes are taken. The moral of the story is, but I'll a lot of times in this, I put myself and my myself in the shoes of what these people had to go through back in the day. And yeah, this is a situation where I would be like, I don't really want to do that. Yeah, but obviously, systems change and all this stuff. And obviously, it's not, it's not how it's done today, here. But a lot of times in this whole situation like what would you do if you were Nicodemus, would you have gone right and healed? Mary? Would you have said no rolling Roman guards? You take care of them? Yep. Interesting. Yes. Across the board.Lance Foulis 58:31 Yes. 100%. Agreed. Yeah. And that's one good thing about there's so many different characters, and they are all relatable in some way. Matthew's state of security is very relatable, because like, he's, he's well fed. He's well, he has what he well clothed. He's got shoes on his feet, he's got a stable position. So like, that's relatable in the sense of like, what would it take for me to stop like, Where? Where are my morals? Where's my sense of? Yeah, Where's where's my moral sense? And like, what would need to be going on to where I would not choose the security that I'm having? I get that kind of feeling for Matthew, and then in with Simon and Andrew, it's like, oh, my gosh, like, how, how am I going to make it through this? How am I going to get the funds to pay and like, what I have to do whatever it takes, and I'm willing to do not necessarily whatever it takes, but I'm willing to do some things that I wouldn't necessarily be willing to do, but I have to do it. Otherwise, I'm sunk. So everybody's, there's just something relatable about every single character and I find myself in each kind of like what you were saying putting myself in their shoes and being like, oh, man, I kind of get like a real taste of what they're doing and why they're doing it. Yeah. SoDavid Eckl 59:45 what we first talked about, was about how they went to Nicodemus and said, there's people fishing on quote unquote, Shabbat, which we are now as the Sabbath day the rest and thank you Got that, like, would you if you needed to make ends meet? Would you go and fish on the Sabbath? To try to catch fish to be able to feed everyone and make ends meet? Would you do that, and it's just one of those situations that I was thinking about, it's like, maybe that's what it comes to, or else I have to go to jail. Like, at that point, it's like I'm at between a rock and a hard place. And I have to go do that, to make ends meet. So it's just one of those situations that, you know, other thing that I put myself in the shoes of the people, and it's, it's true, you know, that's what it is today. And that's what it is back then what it is today, it's like, you know, you have to make ends meet, you have to do whatever it takes to be able to provide for what we see in Simon and Eden, but also your family. And this is what Matthew is doing. I mean, the tax collector, you know, does he have to do this? I mean, that's what he wanted to do. And that's where he chose to do. Does he want to do it? I'm not sure.Lance Foulis 1:00:55 Right. Right. That's yeah, that's great. Okay, the final scene, what an epic final scene this is. So basically, what ends up happening is we get we cut to Mary, again, we know her as Lillith. And she, I think she goes to a bar and she basically just drinks a bun
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