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There are roughly 100x more people who use code than who can write code. As code that “just works” becomes easier to generate, this group may be the biggest prize of all — if you can get the agentic interface right.A key trend we have been tracking over at AINews is the absolute explosion in Codex usage this year, with MAU now up >10x from Jan 2026. Less than two weeks after their July 9th launch, OpenAI said ChatGPT Work and Codex had reached 10M users combined (as we cover in the pod, Codex now powers ChatGPT Work, so all ChatGPT Work users are now users of the Codex harness, even if they aren't traditional engineers) — showing the early innings of what happens when you graduate from coding agents to knowledge work agents:We've been calling out how coding agents are “breaking containment” to do everything else this year to power every other part of knowledge work - and it started with the org chart, with a major reorg last month that amounted to two of Codex's most prominent leaders, Greg and Tibo, taking responsibility over product and ChatGPT specifically, completing a “Superapp” consolidation cycle first discussed in March.With these updates Codex is no longer just a coding tool. In June, OpenAI said knowledge workers already accounting for roughly 20% of Codex's user base and growing more than 3x as quickly as developers. A product dedicated for knowledge workers was being pulled out of the Codex team.However, knowledge work has a different set of problems and environments than coding. For decades, knowledge work has been scattered across different primitives like documents for writing, spreadsheets for analysis, slide decks for communication, and specialized applications for everything else. ChatGPT Work now enables users to work across every primitive with agents. Instead of opening an application and manually operating its features, the user can describe an outcome and collaborates with an agent that can assemble the tools, context, and artifact needed to reach it.From building no-code products at Airtable to leading Productivity Engineering at OpenAI, Akshay Nathan has spent much of his career trying to make the power of software accessible to people who do not write code. In this episode, Akshay joins swyx and Vibhu to unpack the launch of ChatGPT Work, why Codex unexpectedly took off among non-developers inside OpenAI, and the company's broader plan to bring useful agents from software engineers to knowledge workers and eventually everyone.We go deep on the shared agent harness behind Codex and ChatGPT Work, why OpenAI brought the experiences together without making them identical, and how persistent computers, artifacts, Sites, plugins, memory, and sub-agents are changing what people can delegate to AI. Akshay explains why some teams are replacing decks and spreadsheets with interactive websites, how agents can gather context across code, Slack, documents, and local files, and what OpenAI learned from personal-agent products like OpenClaw.Side note: also don't miss Abhihek's sandbox track keynote at AIE, which now powers a lot of the sandboxing for ChatGPT Work… and yes was also broken by an unreleased OpenAI model in the recent HuggingFace incident.Akshay also reflects on how AI is transforming product development itself: why more people will become generalists with a specialty, why ideas and taste become the bottlenecks when almost anyone can build, why LLMs still struggle to generate genuinely grounded new ideas, and why teams must distinguish increased motion from actual progress.We discuss:* Why Codex unexpectedly took off among non-developers inside OpenAI* Why employees felt like using Codex gave them a new superpower* The product insight that led OpenAI to build ChatGPT Work* Why Codex and ChatGPT Work share the same underlying agent harness* How their UX, Git visibility, artifacts, and sandboxing defaults differ* Why OpenAI merged its agent experiences instead of building separate products* How AI is blurring the boundaries between engineering, design, strategy, and operations* Why OpenAI wants the default model configuration to work for most users* When power users should use deeper reasoning, Ultra, or multi-agent modes* Artifacts, agentic spreadsheets, and creating high-fidelity work products* Why interactive Sites may replace decks and spreadsheets* The challenge of designing a simple interface for an agent that can build almost anything* Why users should retry tasks that models could not handle three or six months ago* How AI can gather context for performance reviews without replacing human judgment* The OpenAI automation that turns internal Slack and document activity into memes* What reaching ten million ChatGPT Work and Codex users means for the product* How OpenClaw inspired persistent environments, scheduled tasks, and personal agents* Using ChatGPT for financial planning, budgeting, workouts, meals, and household management* The design tradeoffs behind sub-agents and how much of their work users should see* ChatGPT memory, Chronicle, and long-term context* Why AI may make more people generalists with deep specialties* Why ideas and taste become more important when almost anyone can build* Why LLMs still struggle with the instruction “bring me new ideas”* Measuring productivity through quality at-bats instead of commits, tokens, or pull requests* The critical difference between AI-generated motion and meaningful progressAkshay Nathan* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/akshaynathan/* X: https://x.com/akshaynathan_Timestamps00:00:00 Introduction and Bringing the Power of Code to Everyone00:01:33 Joining OpenAI and Preserving a Startup Culture00:02:40 What OpenAI Learned from Enterprise AI Adoption00:05:28 Why OpenAI Built ChatGPT Work00:07:17 Codex vs. ChatGPT Work and the Shared Agent Harness00:12:07 Why OpenAI Merged Its Agent Experiences00:16:24 Models, Reasoning Levels, and Choosing the Right Default00:20:26 Artifacts, Agentic Spreadsheets, and Model–Product Collaboration00:24:22 Why Sites Could Replace Decks and Spreadsheets00:30:08 Designing an Agent That Can Build Almost Anything00:34:28 From Developer Agents to Knowledge Work—and Everyone00:36:07 Power-User Advice and AI-Assisted Performance Reviews00:40:41 OpenAI's Internal AI Memes and the Ten-Million-User Launch00:44:39 OpenClaw, Personal Agents, and ChatGPT as an Operating System00:50:24 Sub-Agents, Ultra Mode, and How Much Control Users Need00:54:39 ChatGPT Memory, Personalization, and Chronicle01:00:19 How AI Is Reshaping Product Development and Tech Roles01:03:15 Ideas, Taste, and Why LLMs Struggle to Generate New Ideas01:04:42 Measuring Productivity, Quality At-Bats, and Motion vs. ProgressTranscriptIntroduction: Akshay Nathan, ChatGPT Work, and the No-Code ArcSwyx [00:00:00]: We're here in the studio with Akshay from OpenAI. Welcome.Akshay Nathan [00:00:07]: Thank you.Swyx [00:00:08]: And with our trusty co-host, Vibhu. So you recently launched ChatGPT Work. You lead Core Product Engineering. It's been a long journey, into all this. I find it very interesting that you started with no code or low code, with Walrus and Airtable. And to some extent, ChatGPT Work is like the super app of super apps of, well, here is the ultimate no code. You just write a prompt.Akshay Nathan [00:00:32]: Yeah. It's funny how things come, full circle. I think for a long time in my career, I started my career working consumer fintech, but then after that, like, there's this hypothesis that, the things that we were able to do with code, like, as engineers, like, if we could bring that to many more people in a more, accessible way, then that would be truly magical. We were working on a startup. It's funny, like, before LLMs, before vision LLMs, on how to do automated testing with AI. It was just kinda jank, back then, but doing what we can, and then worked at Airtable for a while on the same thesis that, like, if we can bring a database or the primitives behind a database to people, that'd be really useful to them. But once LLMs came onto the scene, it became clear that, this was the missing piece, like, the missing technology required to, like, bring the magic of code to everyone without them having to know what's going on underneath the hood. And so, like, I think this launch and a lot of the stuff that we've been up to is, like, the manifestation of that.From Walrus and Airtable to OpenAIVibhu [00:01:33]: How was stuff when you joined? So you joined OpenAI 2023. Now we've got, so much more stuff, so ChatGPT, Codex app, ChatGPT Work. Have things changed?Joining OpenAI and What Hasn't ChangedAkshay Nathan [00:01:44]: I think the more interesting thing is how things haven't changed. Like, one, I joined I remember when I joined, it was, like, five hundred people. One thing I was worried about was, like, I was looking for something, more early stage and, like, was it gonna feel startup enough? And I joined, and I was like, “This feels even more startup-y than I could ever imagine.” And, like, that really hasn't changed even till now. I think the, like, level of, like, bottoms-up ambition and, like, the ability of anyone to, like, do anything or have an idea and ship it is really cool. But on the, like, mission side, I think what was really compelling to me is this mission of, bringing frontier intelligence to everyone. Like, building AGI and then bringing it to everyone. And, I think acknowledging back then that, like, that vision is gonna, not be a linear progression. Like, we're probably gonna, like, try different products and have different things that succeed and don't. But the vision has stayed the same, and the mission has stayed the same, and we're starting to see the pieces, fall together, and that's really cool.Enterprise Lessons: No One-Size-Fits-All AISwyx [00:02:40]: You worked on Enterprise. What A lot of people never touch ChatGPT Enterprise. What is something that you learned from there that you're bringing into your work now?Akshay Nathan [00:02:52]: I think how there's no one-size-fits-all solution in Enterprise. I remember in the early days of ChatGPT Enterprise, like, when we talked to customers and, like, everyone. That was, like, when I think it was a year after ChatGPT was released, and everyone was so excited to bring, AI into their enterprise. And, there were all these teams being stood up. It was, like, the AI deployment team with, like, these enormous budgets. And if you asked anyone, like, what were they excited about? Like, what were they excited about solving? Like, at first, you'd get, like, kinda like the baseline answers of, like, “Yeah, we have all this context and data and all this stuff.” But then if you ask them, like, “What was, like, a discrete use case that, like, they want AI to enable in their workplace?” You get such a different, like, variance, like, explosion of, different types of answers. And it's interesting, like, you using, like, these models and these products, you have this box, and you can say anything to it, which is the magic. But it'on the flip side, it also means that, like, you don't know what to do with it. And in Enterprise, I think a big part of that is, like, meeting the users where they are, like, what use case were they trying to solve, and then teaching them how they can use AI to, like, gain leverage there.Swyx [00:03:56]: Do you meaningfully differentiate that from forward-deployed engineering?Akshay Nathan [00:04:01]: I think there is the go-to-market side of it and then there is the product side of it. I think you need someone on the product side. And I think, like, however good we get at FDE motion, like, I think at the end of the day, if we have a user who's, like, looking at their computer or looking at their phone, like, it's our job in the product to, like, be enabling them and showing them where to go. So we're really excited about that.Vibhu [00:04:24]: Do you think there's been changes, over the past three years of adoption? So there have been, step function changes. You have reasoning models and whatnot. Is there still the same problems of Enterprise has black box, don't know what to do with it, or have things changed?Adoption, Agents, and the Next 10x MarketAkshay Nathan [00:04:39]: We're seeing now that, like, there's this huge uptake, right? Everyone is extremely excited about it. It feels like, many people are, millions, hundreds of millions of people are using ChatGPT. They understand, like, how generally to work with AI. But then, like, every time, like, a new capability gets unlocked, so now, like, we're seeing with agents, like, there is probably a contingent of, like, early adopters still who, truly get it, who are like, “ we you can do anything. You just have to make sure the right context is there, it's connected to the right tools, and that you are supervising it, but, like, anything is possible.” But then there's, like, this, like, 10x or 100x bigger market where, like, they don't yet get that, or they don't yet see that. And so I think that's the next stage here. So to answer your question, like, I think the adoption is there and growing fast, but I think the opportunity is, like, far bigger than that. That's where we wanna play, especially with ChatGPT Work.ChatGPT Work, Codex, and the Super App MergeSwyx [00:05:27]: Yeah. well, let's, let's skip ahead to ChatGPT Work. only, like, a month ago or so, announced. what was the decision process that led into it? there was this, overall merging of the super app. Is that what we're officially calling it? you deprecated the browser as well. Just, summarize your last, like, couple months of working on this thing.Akshay Nathan [00:05:50]: Yeah. It feels like forever now, but it's only been a few months. I think maybe the one, impetus that, like- Is most salient is when we release Codex, or even internally had Codex, like, it was really surprising to us, I think we recently put out some stats on this, that there was this, like, real inflection of, like, adoption among non-developers at OpenAI. And, I, through this product development process, like, would go to, like, these UXR sessions to talk to people internally. And the thing that stuck out to me is, like, one, like, you go talk to, like, strategic finance or marketing or whatever, and they're all using Codex for, their use cases. That part's cool, but the thing that really stuck out to me is how proud people were that they were using Codex. Like, how, likeSwyx [00:06:34]: It's like, “I'm not supposed to be using it, but I am.”Akshay Nathan [00:06:36]: It was that. It was, like, that they were, early to this, like, new thing, but it was also this thing of, like, they felt like they had a superpower, right? And, what we recognized then is that, like, the power of Codex, the power of agents, like, we already had this massive distribution base of people who have, come to know and love ChatGPT. Like, how do we show that to them? Like, how do we bring it to them? Which is, like, a hard product problem, and it's, like, a tricky thing, right? There's many ways you can go about it. And so that's what we called the Merge and the Super App over time, and ultimately launched it in ChatGPT Work, is how do we do that? But it came from that initial realization that, like, the power was not only for developers, like, much earlier than probably even we thought. Like, it could be extended to everyone.Swyx [00:07:17]: How do you see the products differently? So, like, who is it for, right? So Codex started out even CLI, then app. Now there's a merge of ChatGPT Codex and ChatGPT Work, so is it the opening for the average user, for enterprise, for work? How do you position it?Akshay Nathan [00:07:36]: I think we want to get it to position it for if you're doing work-related things, for lack of a better word, right?Who ChatGPT Work Is ForAkshay Nathan [00:07:42]: I think productivity is what, like, the pillar that I support. Like, that's the name of the team. And the reason for that, the reason we call it productivity and not, like, enterprise or, like, work or something like that, is because there's also personal productivity, right? And, like, I think ChatGPT Work is I've seen people do things in their personal lives that you wouldn't classify as, like, work technically, but, like, these agents are, super capable for. Like, one recent example that someone posted about, on our Slack is, like, someone had, like, a missed package, like they didn't receive it, and then they got, like, the picture of it, from Amazon or whoever the courier was, and they, like, asked ChatGPT Work to, like, find out where that package is. And, like, the agent, is extremely tenacious and, like, took the image and, like, looked at a bunch of, like, listings around their neighborhood and figured out exactly the apartment complex in which the package was, like, gave them some information. And so, like, I think there's all these things that, like, you, work-related or productivity-related things, I think that's what we want the product to be. You asked about Codex. I think we think Codex is, a durable brand, but we have a principle that, like, the user we don't want a user to get stuck in a tab or an experience where they don't get the power of the product. And so, like, everything that you can do, in the Codex portion of the product on desktop, you can do in ChatGPT Work and vice versa. But we made some opinionated product decisions on, like, how much of the Git state, if you're in a Git repo, do we wanna expose to the end user? Or how much do we wanna make the experience of seeing the agents thinking, like, diff forward so that you get exposed to the diffs out of the box. And then, like, on the safety side, like, how do we wanna think about, like, sandboxing and making sure that we have the right defaults in one state versus the other? So, there's, like, some opinions that go behind that, but we do want We don't want the user to need to choose which experience they're in.Swyx [00:09:26]: That is a good goal for AGI, right? Like, people don't want, like, to hide to choose what version of AGI they want. They just want the AGI to decide for them. can I get an answer or, like It's not super clear to me. Is the Codex harness and the ChatGPT Work harness the same? Is it just UI affordances, or are there prompt level or even deeper differences?Shared Harness, Different UX: Codex vs. WorkAkshay Nathan [00:09:49]: So the harness is the same. The harness is shared. on In both of the products, we made improvements to the harness to make it good for knowledge work, especially as it relates to plug-ins or computer use or artifacts. You get that power regardless of which experience you're in. On the UX side, there's opinionated takes that we have when you're in Codex mode, what the UX should be how the UX should behave, and some stuff around the sandbox like I mentioned, but the underlying harness and capabilities should be the same.Swyx [00:10:16]: I'm just kinda curious. Maybe we can, -- Is there a query that we can run that would look different in the two modes?Akshay Nathan [00:10:23]: Yeah. I tried to create, like ask it to create, like, a retirement calculator spreadsheet or something, in both modes. And then in Codex mode, you might have to be in a repo for this, but you'll see, like, the diffs of, like, the sheet that it's creating and stuff like that, and the file edits. But in Work you won't be able to see that.Swyx [00:10:42]: I think that's, that's super clear. And then also the other thing I wanted to dive into was your, the productivity team. what else is there? first of all, what are the top-level teams other than productivity? Isn't productivity everything?Productivity Teams and Core ChatAkshay Nathan [00:10:55]: SoSwyx [00:10:55]: Science?Akshay Nathan [00:10:55]: We have a team focused on ChatGPT. Like, the core chat experience, for consumer, which is like, not, I think all productivity. Like, there'People are using ChatGPT every day for search to, figure out how to write messages to loved ones, to think about, how to, like, learn a new topic, et cetera. And so there's so much more inside to create images. And there's so much more in chat that, the hundreds of millions of users are using that warrants, like, a very dedicated effort. And there's teams focused on enterprise and infrastructure and API and stuff like that, so.Swyx [00:11:33]: I will bring it up.Retirement Calculator Demo and Git-First UXSwyx [00:11:34]: Yeah. So I have them both running. This is ChatGPT Work. There's a Codex version here. I picked “Five Little Ducks” song, so this will take a while.Akshay Nathan [00:11:43]: Huh.Swyx [00:11:43]: I think we'll just keep it in the background and, as they finish, we'll look into some of the differences.Akshay Nathan [00:11:48]: Yeah. But immediately, I think if you flip back to the Codex version you'll see that,Swyx [00:11:53]: That it assumesAkshay Nathan [00:11:54]: Like theSwyx [00:11:54]: It assumes Git. Yeah. Yeah.Akshay Nathan [00:11:56]: The, like, dynamic island assumes that you're in a Git repo. And you might miss some stuff because some of it is, like, in the actual chain of thought with those changes and how we display that, but yeah.Swyx [00:12:07]: Is there an unintuitive like, is there a thing that you wanted to ship and then you got feedback, and you were like, “No, let's not do it?” Like, what's the thinking behind that?Why Merge the ExperiencesAkshay Nathan [00:12:14]: In, ChatGPT Work?Akshay Nathan [00:12:17]: I think one direction we could have gone with this is, like, keeping the experiences, like, completely separate. So it's like, whySwyx [00:12:22]: Different apps.Akshay Nathan [00:12:23]: Exactly, like different apps or even in the same app, like different, completely different experiences. Like, why merge it all? Like, what is. Codex, people love. Like, why bring these products together? And I think the intuition here is that, like, all of our jobs are, like, changing dramatically with AI. Like, for, like, every few months, like, I feel like I wake up, and I'm, like, doing a completely different thing than I was doing a few months ago. And my hypothesis here is that, or I should say our hypothesis is that, like, part of what we're, we're building, this technology is giving people leverage. Like, the things, maybe it's the more mundane parts of your job or parts that, like, if you were able to automate, you'd be able to share more ideas faster or whatever, like, you're able to do now. And because of that, like, that might blur the lines between someone who's, like, only writing code or creating strategy docs or, planning events or, helping with marketing or doing podcasts or whatever, right? And so, like, these things are gonna get blurred over time. And so, like, trying to draw a hard boundary based on, like, the who you are is gonna be, is gonna be tough. And, like, we should enable users to choose, but we shouldn't box them in. And so a lot of the work that went in here, like, keeping the primitives the same, like for example, plugins are, like, unified across, this product and ChatGPT and the cloud, was because of that. It's this thesis that, like, eventually things are gonna come together and we don't wanna be Like, we wanna be prescriptive about when to be in either experience, but we don't want to box anyone in.Swyx [00:13:45]: I wonder if there's users who are very tuned to the old ChatGPT harness that is effectively now replaced by the Codex harness. I can't imagine what that was, but maybe they're more the more conversational side. Can you compare and contrast the two harnesses? ‘Cause only you've seen it.Akshay Nathan [00:14:02]: Yeah. I think ChatGPT, the existing harness, like, still exists today. Like, it exists in this app,Harness Engineering: ChatGPT vs. CodexSwyx [00:14:08]: The classic, right?Akshay Nathan [00:14:09]: TheVibhu [00:14:09]: You just start a new chat, and you don't go under Work, right?Akshay Nathan [00:14:13]: Yeah. If you startVibhu [00:14:13]: SoAkshay Nathan [00:14:14]: A new chat and go to chat, then you're, you're talking to ChatGPT with the instant model.Vibhu [00:14:16]: Oh, we can technically do another. But on instant.Swyx [00:14:21]: Yeah. So this one's not gonna code or it's gonna be in line. It's on a in line in a sandbox.Akshay Nathan [00:14:26]: It'llVibhu [00:14:27]: Oh, that's coolAkshay Nathan [00:14:27]: We try to push you to go to Work if you're creating a spreadsheet. Yeah, but this isSwyx [00:14:30]: And this is a router decision? Sorry. Is it a router decision?Akshay Nathan [00:14:34]: This is the decision that, the model is making, and then, like it sees that you're able to. or you're trying to do something that would be better served in Work mode. But I think your question was like, what are the advantages of, like, the chat, like ChatGPT chat harness?Swyx [00:14:48]: It's more broadly, like, I wanna, do an oral history of harness engineering. Right? the ChatGPT harness lasted us from, let's call it the ‘01 era, until now, and now it's being replaced by the Codex harness effectively. And they're, they're overlapping somewhat, but I'm curious what changed if there is.Akshay Nathan [00:15:10]: My perspective on this is, like, there's, there's, there's there's like a constant process of, like, divergence, convergence, divergence, convergence. And in chat, like, many of the use cases I was talking about before, like, search or learning, I think we're, we're really optimizing for latency and optimizing for personality and, like, different things that, over time, like the product The reason people love ChatGPT is because we've been optimizing for those things and working on them for so long. Codex, what we learned was that, like, if you give the agent access to this infinitely flexible environment as a computer, it can do really powerful things. And so when we think about, like, okay, well, for knowledge work, like, what is which mode should we choose? It was like it felt more natural to us to bring that to this, like, computer environment and, maybe abstract some of the details of this computer away from users who might not be used to that, but, like, give them that same power. But ultimately, I think that we want the power in all places, right? We wanna meet people where they are. So I'm sure there'll be work down the road in order to get things to be, equivalently capable in all scenarios. But it's just a question of, like, what we've been focusing on the product on historically and what we're focusing on now.Models, Defaults, and the Reasoning SliderVibhu [00:16:24]: I think alongside that, outside of just harness and when to use Codex, ChatGPT, or Work, there's also the new models you've released, right? any guidance there? So people love to min-max what to use, like only use Terra on high reasoning versus, for this, you wanna use Sol here, ignore all theseAkshay Nathan [00:16:44]: There's 32 options.Vibhu [00:16:46]: But, that being said, for people that are expanding, so, productivity trying stuff for work that don't have the breakdown of what all this is what's, what's the advice, right?Akshay Nathan [00:16:59]: Well, I think before the advice, like the first thing is, like, none of this would be possible without these models. Like, the, I think you asked earlier, like, what was, like, the inspiration for work and, like, early on, like I mentioned, like, what we were seeing with Codex, but that was also because the models were getting infinitely more capable. That's happening again. I think it's like another step function jump now. And to answer the question on advice, like we want this default to be the best possible. Like, we wanna be opinionated about the default, and so we've we've chosen a default that we think is gonna be the best for everyone. And, we have for power users options under the hood. We could One could argue that there might be too many right now, and we're, working on simplifying it. But you can extend, the reasoning level, and you can change between the different model classes if you need to, but the default should be the best for most use cases. So my advice to most people would be to stick to that. And then, if you reach a situation in which you think that you could, you wanna try, a different configuration, if you're not seeing either the efficiency on the cost side or the quality on the intelligence side, then you can change the defaults and see if you can get something better. But we think that the default should be good enough.Swyx [00:18:09]: I have, I'm just gonna run something by you since you have way more experience than me. I've recently been doing Sol Lite but with goal, with the idea that the goal augments the reasoning effort, but with more terminations and turns.Swyx [00:18:24]: Is that a good way to think about it as opposed to Sol Ultra or Sol, Extra High?Akshay Nathan [00:18:29]: Yeah. It's hard to say becauseSwyx [00:18:31]: Yeah. It's like an interaction effect.Akshay Nathan [00:18:33]: exactly. It's like there's a preference on, for you as an individual, like how do you like to collaborate with the models? Like how many of those like terminations, as you call them, do you want where, you can steer or make sure that it's doing the right thing?Akshay Nathan [00:18:46]: I think generally people should try whatever works for them. I think that like using Ultra or the like multi-agent setups are best for like when you have like tasks that are either incredibly complicated, like open explorations or very paralyzable. I think even for tasks using goal, I think is best for tasks that you'll be able to make consistent progress in a way that's verifiable over time. But I think for most tasks, they don't fall into either of those buckets. And so like at least when they're starting, and so that's why I think the best first step is like trying it with the default configuration and then seeing like where you wanna go from there.Swyx [00:19:29]: Right. You guys worked on a slider, which is super helpful for reducing the amount of panic.Vibhu [00:19:36]: It's nice on mobile at least. There's a nice slider there.Swyx [00:19:38]: It's nicer.Vibhu [00:19:39]: I haven't tried it.Swyx [00:19:40]: So you have the advanced view there, but if you click advanced view. Yeah.Vibhu [00:19:44]: Ooh, it's just a nice slider. Yeah.Swyx [00:19:46]: Very pretty, very colorful.Akshay Nathan [00:19:48]: Yeah. The idea was here was like reduce it to like one dimension even though there's multiple dimensions, right? Try to project it onto a single dimension for the user. Like, something from that represents like, speed and efficiency on one side and then like quality and thoroughness on the other side.Artifacts, Spreadsheets, and the Work LaunchSwyx [00:20:04]: I am just puzzled that it uses Sol so much, like the lowerVibhu [00:20:07]: NoSwyx [00:20:07]: Grounds I would've usedVibhu [00:20:08]: I think the slider, if I'm not mistaken, isSwyx [00:20:09]: Terra.Vibhu [00:20:10]: Oh, it is.Swyx [00:20:11]: Yeah. See? So they preset Terra to only be the light one. But like I think a lot of people would more people should use Terra. One, because Sol keeps running out of capacity.Vibhu [00:20:22]: I'm the reason. Here's ten minutes of ourSwyx [00:20:24]: There you goVibhu [00:20:25]: Retirement calculator.Swyx [00:20:26]: Oh, that's the Excel thing working for you.Vibhu [00:20:28]: This is,Swyx [00:20:28]: Oh my God. Look at thatVibhu [00:20:28]: This is work, and then Codex is still cooking, so we'll get back into it. I think it'll be interesting to see the thought process, the reasoning, and also, this is eight minutes on work. Codex is still cooking.Swyx [00:20:41]: Yeah. And by the way, so I've, do Gabriel Chua? He's part of the OpenAI Singapore team. He showed me this, and I was like pretty shocked that this looks like Excel. It edits Excel files. You never paid an Excel license, right? Like, but somehow this is like workable and it's agentic Excel.Akshay Nathan [00:21:01]: Yeah. one of the big like pushes that we made for this launch was like artifacts, right?Akshay Nathan [00:21:05]: Like both on the model side, like I think if you compare this with GPT-5.5 and GPT-5.4 before that, you'll see that there's been pretty dramatic improvements in the quality of these artifacts and then also on the product side.Vibhu [00:21:16]: The UX side is also crazy, like hosted sites and whatnot. No longer needing to host your own little webpage, like itSwyx [00:21:23]: Oh, I have a story about that. I can do, a separate thing. I'll need to take the visuals here, but we-we'll, we'll cut to that later. Was there co-training, because you were moving making this big move and you launched GPT-5.6 on the same day as ChatGPT Work? Was there influence between the model training teams and the harness teams, or did they did the launch dates just happen to line up the same day?Akshay Nathan [00:21:46]: I think the we collaborate heavily with the research teams, and I think that's like one of the most magical parts of the job, like the most fun parts of the job. But yeah, just using artifacts as an example. Like, a lot of what you're seeing, like underneath the hood, there's a lot of work that went into making sure that like, we had the right infra to be able to train the models to get better at this. And then on the product side, like had the right experience for users to be able to collaborate with the model on an artifact like this. In fact, like this whole viewer, like the intuition here is that like, it's not necessarily that you wouldn't need an Excel license. This is stage one, right? Like, this is probably not what you meant when you're like making a retirement calculator.Vibhu [00:22:24]: Yeah, you can iterate very easily. Yeah.Akshay Nathan [00:22:24]: You wanna iterate and like when you're seeing it, and if this thing is high fidelity to like what you would see in or what your coworkers would see if you were to send this to Sean, like that I think makes it so easier and makes you trust the product in terms of iteration.Vibhu [00:22:39]: When you say coworkers would see, do you see a multiplayer, multi-team collaboration with artifacts? Any things you guys think about that?Multiplayer Artifacts and CollaborationSwyx [00:22:46]: You can already share it, right?Akshay Nathan [00:22:48]: Yeah. It's inter It's something that, we're actively thinking about. one thing that, we've noticed internally without talking too much about the roadmap is that like there's many times when someone will ping me about something, and I will ask ChatGPT Work the question, and then I'll ping them back the answer.Akshay Nathan [00:23:04]: And then I'll be thinking likeVibhu [00:23:04]: Like the simplest would be, the three of us are just all on one hosted.Akshay Nathan [00:23:07]: Exactly. And I'll think about like was I required in this loop or and then maybe it was, rephrase like what they were asking or pulled from certain context or whatever. But like, when I gave them back the answer, that process was also lossy, right? Like I gave them just like my interpretation of what ChatGPT Work cooked up. But like underneath the hood, there's so much context like in the rollout and stuff that could be interesting.Vibhu [00:23:28]: Yeah, it'sSwyx [00:23:28]: So like the answer was preemptively respond to every inbound request?Akshay Nathan [00:23:33]: No, it was just like literally like this is what I do sometimes as my job.Swyx [00:23:36]: I know you copy-paste and then you're just a message forwarding serviceAkshay Nathan [00:23:39]: Yeah. Yeah, exactlySwyx [00:23:39]: From AI to AI.Vibhu [00:23:40]: But I think it's interesting, right? It helps people understand the capability of what you can ask and delegate that oftentimes people don't realize until they try or someone shows you, and then you're like, “Oh, okay. Okay, I see.”Swyx [00:23:52]: I think it's als there's also like a, light security issue, where like you're the permissions layer. Like yes, I could query everything that you query, and I could get an automated response, but maybe I'm not supposed to see it. And that there's no way I would know because I'm not supposed to know what I don't know.Akshay Nathan [00:24:07]: Especially as like, with ChatGPT Work, we're, we're asking you to connect your plug-ins and, it's pulling from your local files and stuff like that. Like the amount of context that the agent has access to is like- Deeply personal and like that's something I think we need to preserve, so that'll be definitely a challenge.Swyx [00:24:22]: There's Excel, there's PowerPoint, there's Docs, the, grand trio of work. What other formats of work do you think about? like you worked on Airtable. Is there a future where there's like OpenAI Airtable? Like what does that look like if you ever ended up doing it?Akshay Nathan [00:24:41]: It's a really good question. I think,Formats of Work: Sites as Knowledge ArtifactsAkshay Nathan [00:24:43]: one that you didn't bring up was Sites, and I think that wasSwyx [00:24:46]: SitesAkshay Nathan [00:24:46]: A core part of this launch. There's one side of Sites that I think people commonly talk about, especially on Twitter and stuff or X, of like, this like prototyping tool. And like we saw that happen with this launch even. The model slider that you guys were referencing earlier, like that was developed almost fully in a Site. Like, the collaboration between design and engineering and product on that was like on a site where we play with, the affordance and figure out how it feels and all of that. But the other aspect that I think is a little bit less talked about is like Sites as like an artifact for knowledge work. I was talking to someone the other day who's on like our corporate finance team, and like we were mentioning how like now when they have these reports that they're, they're working on as a team month to month, historically those things were in slide decks and in spreadsheets, and now they're just in Sites. And like Sites is the mechanism that they collaborate across the team. And the reason is ‘cause it's like, it's like somewhat higher bandwidth. Like, at these tools like PowerPoint and Excel are like infinitely flexible, but at some point you reach the boundary of like either as a human you may not know how to use some feature or something, or the product itself doesn't support it. But with a site you can do anything. You ask for anything and you can get that. once people see that magic, I think it's been really valuable.Swyx [00:26:02]: Yeah, let me show you my case study. this involves all the hot topics including ChatGPT Work, but also GPT-5.6 token billionaires and token maxing and Sites and auto research. I'm a fan of this game called Strata. It's, it's like a little board game that youSites, Auto Research, and Research DashboardsSwyx [00:26:17]: That you play with, physical blocks, that come on top of it like that. So over the weekend I took like thirty photos and just threw into ChatGPT. one point seven billion tokens later, out comes this site with a fully playable thingAkshay Nathan [00:26:32]: WowSwyx [00:26:32]: With 3D, block placement and everything. Because it requires physical blocks and I needed friends to train on it so they can get better, so I can play against them. But also, I could also, do things like train an AI on it and that's, thatAkshay Nathan [00:26:45]: That's your auto researchSwyx [00:26:46]: That gets into auto research. So, you want to train your own AIs, and then make sure they self-play against, each other. I need to set both AIs. So this is AI versus AI, and they're, they're gonna self-play. the AIs start out bad and then you want to define a loss function and get good. I wasn't gonna supervise all this. I was at, I was down in San Mateo, attending a conference. What I ended up doing was, auto researching and on this and creating benchmarks and that there was just way too many parameters for me to read. So I started asking it for a site, and it's created this lab, panel. Where is there a, is there a shortcut for a site that is created?Akshay Nathan [00:27:28]: You should be able to go in the sidebar to Sites, top of the sidebar. The left sidebar.Swyx [00:27:33]: This one? Oh, left?Akshay Nathan [00:27:35]: Yeah. Just scroll all the way to the top.Swyx [00:27:36]: Oh. Oh, it says Sites. Oh, there you go. Yeah.Akshay Nathan [00:27:39]: Ooh.Swyx [00:27:40]: So it create, it creates the sites. I don't, I don't think this is, it is exactly what I wanted, but let me show you what it popped up, right? Like I think as a research artifact, it is very important to communicate, exactly, what is being done. Outputs this thing which I eventually started publishing. So I moved it off of Sites because I wanted more, database and infrastructure than Sites afforded me. But this is like a research output that you can start to mess with and like try to think about like what hyperparameters are you tuning for training AIs. And like I was trying to make like scaling laws and everything and doing all sorts of like game optimization stuff. And the fact that you can just throw this up as a research artifact, like I no longer need to read ChatGPT output. I read Site output. But then there's also a huge sprawl. Like look at how long this thing is. There's so many numbers. It is pretty overwhelming, so then I have to start pruning it from there. But, it's an interesting transition from Markdown effectively that you're putting out to, you're putting out a whole functional site.Akshay Nathan [00:28:41]: I think Markdown just isn't that optimal for people to read, right? Might as well just write HTML website and I don't know. I think you can do a lot with customizing this, right? You have your skills that explain what you want. Like I noticed they're quite verbose. I don't need a lot of this information.Swyx [00:28:57]: It's very verbose.Akshay Nathan [00:28:58]: So and then the nice thing of having a site side by side is, you just iterate on what you want and what you don't, right?Swyx [00:29:05]: Yeah. I don't know if, any that triggers any stories for you of how it's run internally. Am I doing this right?Akshay Nathan [00:29:11]: Yeah. I think that this is like a workflow that we're seeing like all different types of teams use, where like the canonical artifact that was previously a deck or something is now becoming a site. And like with a site you, because it's just HTML, you can like. It's infinitely flexible. And so, if you want to give more prominence to a certain thing that like in a slide deck would, feel like it was buried, like you can do that. You can have it be like the hero image, right? And so I think that like, people are starting to see that. There's more work to be done to make these things like much more easier, easy to collaborate on. You mentioned that they're very, they're long and verbose, could be broken up. I'm sure that there's still something to do there.Swyx [00:29:53]: They're super long. Yeah.Akshay Nathan [00:29:54]: Yeah. But I think we're starting to see that like there is this aspect of this is a really interesting, format, for people to use, that's like much more flexible than what they ever had before.Swyx [00:30:07]: I think your job also comes becomes meta. You're not designing the products. You're designing a product to make products, and I'm curious how you manage that.Designing a Product That Makes ProductsAkshay Nathan [00:30:18]: I think one thing that we've been Like when we look at the UX, like that we've been thinking a lot about is how can we balance like simplicity with capability? Like if we're designing a product, like you said, that like is made to make up build other things, right? You can build so many different things. But we can't put that all in front of you because you'll get overwhelmed.Vibhu [00:30:41]: Yes.Akshay Nathan [00:30:41]: And so we had similar problem or similar challenges even Chat-with ChatGPT, but especially now, like when there's so much that can be done, I think the balance that we're constantly trying to strike is like, how can we give the user enough of a UI surface where, they can be expressive, they can tell the agent what they need, they can verify that it's using the right tools, it's pulling from the right sources, et cetera, but then it gets out of the way. And then how can we build the right system such that we can show them instead of telling them what can be done? Because so much of this is gonna be like, how do they discover the next use case and the next one after that if they really want to be super powered by the AI.Games, Private Evals, and Show-Don'TellVibhu [00:31:19]: Yeah. It's interesting. I feel like everyone also just has a different way to do it, right? I made a similar version of this same game. I didn't take any pictures of board or rule game. I threw in at goal eighteen minutes, fifty-three seconds later, a lot of tokens later, I've got a similar version. not with all the auto research and whatnot, butAkshay Nathan [00:31:39]: You gotta do all the latest trends.Vibhu [00:31:40]: And yeah, I did it with, did it with Codex, not Work, but it's interesting, right?Akshay Nathan [00:31:45]: Yeah. And this is GPT Image generating the pro avatars. Very good for game design. LikeVibhu [00:31:51]: AndAkshay Nathan [00:31:52]: A lot of game designers were like really into GPT Image for assets.Vibhu [00:31:54]: I will say like the broader takeaway probably is the reason that we do this is more so just to test the tools, right? Like, this was also a test for GPT-5.6 came out. I had done the game on GPT-5.5, right? The ability for me to no longer need it to. I had to feed it the rules. It's, it's a pretty niche game. It couldn't find how to do this on its own.Akshay Nathan [00:32:15]: Oh, yeah.Vibhu [00:32:15]: GPT-5.6Akshay Nathan [00:32:16]: It is out-of-distribution, which is why I was also very keen on testing the GPT-5.6 capability.Vibhu [00:32:21]: But, this is just as work comes out, as new things come out, these are just our side ways to test things, right?Akshay Nathan [00:32:27]: Yeah. It's some private eval. That is not this private.Vibhu [00:32:31]: But also valuable because now you can send this to your friends and I learned about this game through seeing this.Akshay Nathan [00:32:36]: It's a hard game. He's very good.Vibhu [00:32:39]: It's good to when no one is competing with you. But yes, it's a classic RL problem of like self-play, bootstrapping your game AI. yeah, you see how easily work becomes personal and personal becomes work because the thing I do for personal, it directly informs people I work with because I showed it to them. They were like, “Oh, you can do that with GPT?” Which like I imagine is the growth strategy.Akshay Nathan [00:33:02]: Yeah. The show not tell is a big piece that, I think we've we're not still not fully cracked of like, showing people all the things that they can do with the product versus like trying to teach that to them through like, articles or onboarding or whatever.Akshay Nathan [00:33:18]: So meeting them in the moment.Vibhu [00:33:19]: It's a career risk for me, because I used to be in developer relations, right? Where your job is to show, and then you're like, “What do you mean? You don't, you don't need.” your job is to tell. And then. But the product people are like, “Well, we don't need you if our product is intuitive enough.” SoAkshay Nathan [00:33:37]: Yeah. that's the magic of the models. So you can tailor the telling or the showing to like specifically what the user needs, like what they care about, what they've done in the past, exactly where they are on the adoption journey. So I think that's like gonna be a super big opportunity.Vibhu [00:33:50]: Seems easier and easier now to tailor custom showing, right? People have different use cases. As much as you said you don't wanna segment different people into different buckets, right? It's also not that hard to for people that are in different categories. But the question, is you said your team is more broadly on. What was the term you used? Productivity?From Developers to Knowledge Work to EveryoneAkshay Nathan [00:34:12]: Productivity.Vibhu [00:34:12]: Productivity. So howAkshay Nathan [00:34:12]: Which is now work.Vibhu [00:34:14]: Is it work? Is there another distribution that we're not hitting? Is there a group of people that will have something different than ChatGPT, Codex or Work? Is there more that the mass isn't targeting?Akshay Nathan [00:34:28]: I see it as like a sequencing, like. The vision is like bring useful agents to everyone. We started with like developers. Like developers historically are like early adopters that are willing to put up with more friction, set things up, et cetera. Like that's where, Codex started. I think the next opportunity is like what we call general knowledge work, all the other functions around developers. I think when you go from developers to this segment, like there's inherent challenges with like, this show not tell thing that we're talking about, making the product more understandable, bringing in new capabilities that matter more for this cohort than matter for developers, things like artifacts, things like computer use, et cetera. And then I think like the same learnings, like similarly how we took the learnings from developers and brought it to, general knowledge work, the next stage will be like taking the learnings from general knowledge work and bringing it to everyone no matter what they're doing in their lives. And we're already seeing that a little bit. Like this game example that you have is, something that's like on the border of like fun and personal life to, your professional life. I use ChatGPT Work full-time at home for everything, like for whatever I'm doing. I used it the other day to come up with a meal plan and like, save that on the like computer environment that it has and something that I can continue going back to. Like is everyone doing that yet? Probably not because the thing says work on it, but eventually, we wanna get people there.Vibhu [00:35:51]: ChatGPT life.Akshay Nathan [00:35:52]: Yeah, exactly. ChatGPT cooking. But I think there's a lot of, there's a lot of opportunity there, but I see it as like, we're, we're built we built a foundation in software engineering, and we're gonna take the same learnings that we take from software engineering to knowledge work to everyone.Vibhu [00:36:07]: Do you have any power user advice? I feel like, there's a group of people that will live it, use it for everything, stay on it twenty four-seven. And then there's a bit of a gap between that crew and people that, okay, I use it for work. I use it occasionally. Sometimes I type questions. any advice, any learnings, anything you recommend or just, takeaways that you've found that help bridge that gap?Power User Advice: Push the Frontier of ImaginationAkshay Nathan [00:36:30]: I think a couple things that I've seen is like, one, that it really helps to broaden your imagination of what's possible, and this has been a learning even for me. Like, the technology has progressed so fast that, something that, like, even three months ago, like, no way the models can do this. Like, now it's like, wow, it's like it can. Like,Swyx [00:36:52]: Give an exampleAkshay Nathan [00:36:52]: We're going through right now our, like, review cycle internally, and, people always talked about this as, like, a thing that the models are good at and like, there's a cliché of like: Okay, like, no one wants to be writing reviews and, like, we just use AI to do it. But in all seriousnessSwyx [00:37:09]: And it can evaluate it as well.Akshay Nathan [00:37:10]: Yeah, exactly. In all seriousness, before it was, like, just, like, slop and, like, I think it was helpful, but, not super productive. Now I've found that, like, the model can do a much better job than me, especially in this environment of, like, pulling context on, like, what people are up to, how they've like the things that they've done to make a difference, highlighting like, wins that they've had that, like, I might may not even have seen. It has access to, like, everything, right? Like the code, like, things that they've caught, reviews, Slack, everything. And so it's, like, incredibly powerful in that domain and, like, just like six months ago, the last time we did this cycle, like, I didn't even I tried using it, but it was not at all helpful. And this time it's been, like, incredibly helpful and, like, so I think continuing to push the frontier of imagination of what's possible, even if you tried something before, I think is maybe the my biggest piece of advice. The other, thing is, like, the more you put in, especially in this environment where, like, the model has access to everything on your computer or in ChatGPT Work, like you can create, artifacts over time and save them in your library and, like, the model will continue having access to those. Like, the more information you give it about whatever domain you're in, whether it's your life or your work, the more valuable it becomes, and it'll become valuable in, like, ways that might surprise you. Like, it might pull from context in a way that, may be proactive and that you might not even have thought about. But it needs to have access to those, to that those tools or that context first.Reviews, Agentic Search, and Context GatheringSwyx [00:38:27]: One thing I just wanna talk about the review stuff because I'm still that's a very sensitive thing and you're, you're a founder, you've managed people, you've hired people. As manager myself, I'm very reticent to put out any LLM-generated things especially when it comes to people, ‘cause it feels like you don't care.Swyx [00:38:46]: Presumably at OpenAI, people are more open to being eval rated by GPT. But are there any unofficial rules around this? Like, what's the etiquette?Akshay Nathan [00:38:57]: Oh, I think the etiquette is that, like, I would never write something via, like, well, solely via AI and, like, present it as, like, a review for someone. What I was talking about is more, like, gathering context. That's the place where it's incredibly helpful.Swyx [00:39:08]: So it's just search.Akshay Nathan [00:39:09]: Yeah, exactly.Swyx [00:39:09]: It's agentic search. Yeah.Akshay Nathan [00:39:10]: It's like agentic search, but, that you can tailor and steer much more capably than you could before, ‘cause, like, the thing is it's all there's a flywheel happening, right? Because of Codex, people are able to do, and because of ChatGPT, people are able to do so much more now than ever before. And if you're able to do so much more, it's easy to miss things as well. And so, like, I think we need to use these same tools to keep up with all the impact that people are having and understand, where we can be helpful.Swyx [00:39:39]: I think the thing, like, I run a small company, so easy to search, but at the scale of OpenAI with the amount of messages that you guys put in Slack, do you think that it misses things?Remembering What Humans MissAkshay Nathan [00:39:50]: Probably, but I think that I also miss things.Swyx [00:39:52]: Like, it doesn't matter, right?Vibhu [00:39:53]: I think sometimes it'sSwyx [00:39:53]: Like it's, as it needs to be human-levelAkshay Nathan [00:39:54]: It's all relative, right? Yeah.Vibhu [00:39:56]: Sometimes it's nice when it finds things you wouldn't, right? Like right now, my Codex system prompts, they're set up in such a way that every project I have has a secret- separate, notes MD, and it just writes learnings to there. And then the global one can pull from all these. So sometimes it'll be like: Oh, there's this project you did like four months ago. Here's a note that we had, and it randomly pulls it back into context that I would never do, I haven't thought about.Vibhu [00:40:20]: And I'm like, okay, this is quite superhuman, right? Like, stuff that would. And, it'll save like hours on chunking of stuff or find something that's already been done. I'm like, as much as it might miss stuff, I would too, but it's very useful when it finds stuff. And I have like a very, non-super engineered solution to this. It's just marked down files that get pulled whenever they want.Akshay Nathan [00:40:41]: Yeah. I have a funny anecdote about this. Like, recently gearing up to this launch, the team has been, really cooking on it for a couple months, and over that time, like there's so much conversation and chatter going on in Slack and Docs and elsewhere. And, one of the members of the team set up this, scheduled tasks, like automation to like look at everything that's going on and, like, come up with the best memes and then post it in one of our shared channels. And like, there are two cool things about this. Like, the first is, like, I think the models are, over time, like starting to become like funny.Swyx [00:41:13]: Funny. Nice.Akshay Nathan [00:41:13]: Whereas like, a year ago, like that was not at all the case. The second is, it was what you were saying, like they find things that in surprising ways that you may not have thought of and like create connections that you may not have thought of. And that really helps with like the meme generation because then you can see something that, genuinely surprises you and, is funny in that way. So yeah, that's like not like the most productive, use of this the technology, but it does it does uncover this, like this capability that's emerging, which is just like to find information that you otherwise would not know of.Launch Momentum and the 10 Million User MilestoneSwyx [00:41:43]: Talking about the launch, I think, I have pretty much said this is the most successful launch in a long time. I think even more successful personally than 5.0, and they're announcing ten million users. Does it feel different? You've been through a lot of launches.Akshay Nathan [00:41:58]: I think it feels like a culmination. Well, I think two things. One, it feels like a culmination, like I was mentioning earlier, like this like vision mission that we've been on for a long time. Like I said, we saw the magic of Codex internally, and then we're like extremely excited to bring this to many more people and to see it working, to like see us reach, the distribution goal, numbers that you mentioned, like I think that's like huge and super exciting. The flip side of that is like, there's so much more to do too. Like, that's also really exciting. Like, ChatGPT as a whole, like the this product that, everyone almost equates to AI and like loves, has hundreds of millions of users. And so like ten million is really cool, but like we need to get this to everyone. Like, we need everyone to feel this magic. And so that's the next step from here. But yeah, I think extremely pumped about how it's going so far and the opportunities.Swyx [00:42:46]: Awesome. I did want to also Because I've, I've, I've been tracking the number closely, it transitioned at some point from just Codex users to Codex plus ChatGPT Work, because they're same harness. The whole point is that you don't, you can't, count them separately. Do you have roughly a billion, ChatGPT users? Why did it just jump to one billion right away? Like, isn't that the default on ChatGPT or no?Codex, ChatGPT Work, and the Developer BrandAkshay Nathan [00:43:11]: We don't default you into ChatGPT Work if you're on ChatGPTSwyx [00:43:14]: If you're free. YeahAkshay Nathan [00:43:15]: It's also only available to paid users right now. And I think there's like a process of, educating users of what is the value of this product, having them try it, learning from their feedback, and making it better over time. But the goal is to, get as many of the people who love ChatGPT today to like feel the power of ChatGPT Work. But I think it'll be a journey.Swyx [00:43:36]: Yeah. And Codex will still be alive as a brand for the foreseeable future. And we'll just toggle between them as needed for UI stuff.Akshay Nathan [00:43:44]: Yeah, I think it's even stronger point than that. Like, I think we fully intend to like, treat developer. Like, developers have been, a core market for us for so long, and like there's, there's so much more that we can do to make Codex great specifically for, software development, and we'll continue to do that. This doesn't take away from that at all. If anything, it should increase the utility of something like Codex, because now you can move seamlessly between writing a diff to creating an artifact or, doing a search over your factor.Swyx [00:44:11]: I do wonder how much this terminology leaks to the non-technical user. Like, do they have to learn to say artifact if I want artifact? Or.Akshay Nathan [00:44:20]: It's funny, like we call it artifacts internally ‘cause that's what the teams call it.Swyx [00:44:23]: It's nice. Yeah.Akshay Nathan [00:44:23]: But like externally, like no one says that, no one calls it an artifact. But I think that people like often, like describe things, whatever they're used to, right? So if, ChatGPT Work is good at creating slides, they'll say ChatGPT Work is good at creating slides, and that's what we want.OpenClaw, Personal OS, and Persistent ComputersSwyx [00:44:38]: One big Another, it's July of twenty-six. One big thing that also happens in, for OpenAI was OpenClaw, and that's I think a lot of people's first time really maxing a agent for personal stuff, but also crossing over to work in essence same way. As far as I understand, OpenClaw is still independent, but did you go through your own OpenClaw moments? Were there any lessons you took from OpenClaw to Codex or back? Whatever.Akshay Nathan [00:45:06]: I think there's a lot of inspiration. I did go through my own OpenClaw moment. I,Swyx [00:45:10]: Yeah, tell the storyAkshay Nathan [00:45:10]: Me and my wife like set up an OpenClaw to like try to manage everything in our house. Not that there's like a ton, but it was like quite useful. We gave it a calendar. It started, creating events for us and stuff. At some point, the laptop that we were running on, it died and never got a chance to pick it back up. But there was a lot of inspiration there, like, in ChatGPT Work, in web and mobile, like you get access to this like persistent computer environment where, you can store files, and those files stay around between sessions. And the idea is to be able to enable use cases like this. one of the members of our team uses ChatGPT Work for what they used OpenClaw from before, and then feel like it has like completely transitioned, which is like, workout planning and like meal tracking. which again, it's like a work-related thing, right? It's like not work necessarily, but it's like in personal productivity space. But it has all the same primitives. So it has scheduled tasks. It has the ability to store files on a file system. It has the ability to like reference those things over time. And so you start to see the same types of use cases emerge, which has been really cool.Swyx [00:46:14]: Is there a point that ChatGPT Work completely replaces OpenClaw? they're independent, so.Akshay Nathan [00:46:20]: Yeah, I'm, I'm not close to it, so I can't speak to the OpenClaw roadmap, but I don't think so. I think that there's gonna be, there's always a need for like this like incredible, like open source technology that team has built. And I think that we can draw inspiration, in the product and, ChatGPT, I think many more people have like heard about and used ChatGPT than have used OpenClaw. And if we can take the magic from OpenClaw and bring it to them, I think that'll be a success. I think that like one thing on the ChatGPT Work side that we feel strongly about is that like the core experience is that you come to this product and you have a conversation, start a session, whatever you wanna call it, with this agent. And the magic of the product is that you can do anything in that moment. And we would like to create a product where you don't have to click a button or to go to a different place, whatever, and you can get whatever functionality exists in, your finances app or where or any other product like in this one place. And so that's the goal. It's like it we want an extensible system with plugins where you can connect to the tools that you need in order to be able to accomplish like a financial task, where you can, if you're doing like science work, like we have an ability to like extend the system in such that you can like write the tech and it performs well. There'll always be like products that we support that are best in class at those things, but we want as much of the magic as possible in that core experience.Swyx [00:47:45]: Yeah. Do you think that you can do everything you used to do with Wealthfront in ChatGPT Finance?Finance, Data Access, and Centralized ContextAkshay Nathan [00:47:50]: I tried it. like ChatGPT doesn't yet custody, cash and assets for me. So that part, no, not yet. But I, there was like a whole component of like retirement planning and, like financial planning and budgeting and stuff that, we were looking into when I was there. And like with the finances plugin, like that's all possible with ChatGPT today. So, I feel

After spending years building unvalidated products that went nowhere, Tibo Louis-Lucas completely changed how he approached startups. In this episode of the ProductLed Podcast, he shares how those early failures pushed him toward a faster, revenue-first way of building, one that eventually led to the success of Tweet Hunter and Taplio, and now powers a growing portfolio of product-led SaaS businesses. Tibo breaks down why revenue is the only validation that really matters, how Tweet Hunter stood out in a crowded market by going deep on a single platform, and the unusual distribution playbook that helped it take off. That included giving a major profit share to a creator-partner and building a network of “creative investors” who amplified the product from day one. The conversation also dives into why selling a company was far less glamorous than it sounds, and why Tibo now prefers building and holding long term. He shares how he thinks about creating an “indie hacker stack” for a specific persona, how AI has changed his day-to-day workflow, and why he now spends less time coding and more time reviewing, iterating, and building systems. One of the biggest takeaways is his operating style: no calls, fast feedback loops through DMs, and a strong focus on staying close to paying users. For founders building product-led companies, this episode is packed with practical lessons on validation, distribution, focus, and building with speed in the AI era. Key Highlights: 02:21 - Why Two Failed Startups Changed EverythingTibo shares the painful lesson of spending years on unvalidated ideas, and how that pushed him to become relentlessly validation-driven.05:38 - Revenue Is the Only Validation That CountsWhy free users can be misleading, how Tibo evaluates startup ideas today, and what made Tweet Hunter feel different almost immediately.09:47 - How Tweet Hunter Won a Crowded MarketThe strategy behind focusing on one platform deeply, serving creators instead of enterprises, and building something clearly better for a narrower use case.12:11 - The Distribution Deal That Fueled GrowthHow Tibo partnered with influencers using profit share and exit incentives, and why aligning distribution with the product was such a powerful lever.15:25 - The Creative Investors Growth EngineWhy he gave small ownership stakes to 17 creators, how that amplified launches and updates, and what made the model work.19:31 - Why Selling Wasn't the Dream OutcomeTibo opens up about the pressure of earnouts, platform risk, and why the acquisition experience made him want to build and hold instead.23:46 - Building an Indie Hacker Software StackWhy Tibo organizes his portfolio around a specific persona instead of a single vertical, and how he thinks about expanding from five products to more.34:54 - No Calls, More DMs, Better FeedbackA look at his no-meeting policy, why DM-based customer conversations work so well for him, and how staying close to users improves product decisions.37:18 - How AI Changed the Way He BuildsTibo explains how AI emptied his backlog, turned him into a QA-first builder, and created a new challenge: resisting feature creep. Resources:

Please answer our short Moneywise listener survey! (Very, very short): joinhampton.com/moneywisefeedbackJOIN HAMPTON:These episodes often come directly out of conversations happening inside Hampton, a private community for founders and CEOs with $3M+ in revenue or $10M+ exits. Members range from $5M net worth to billions. They wrestle with these same questions off the record. Apply at http://joinhampton.com/mw.HOW FOUNDERS ARE BUILDING WEALTH:How much do founders actually make, spend, invest, work, and keep in net worth? Hampton surveyed founders directly and put the answers into one report. Download it for free here: https://joinhampton.com/mw-wrEPISODE DETAILS:Thibault — known online as Tibo — is a French indie hacker who spent six years failing at startups before building Tweet Hunter during Covid lockdown and selling it for $10 million. Except the real number was more complicated than that: $2 million up front, $8 million in earn-out, and 18 months of some of the most stressful building of his life to get there. He walked away with just under $3 million post taxes — and says he regrets the sale entirely.Today, Tibo is doing over $1 million a month in revenue across a portfolio of five software products he's built since that exit. His personal spend is negligible. He has no financial advisor, keeps roughly 50% of his net worth in cash, and puts almost everything investable into index funds.This episode gets into the full deal structure, the psychological cost of the earn-out period, what he calls the "frozen state" that hits founders after a big exit, and why he says he will never sell a company again.Timestamps:02:12 — Full guest intro: who Thibault is, the Tweet Hunter story, deal structure breakdown, and episode roadmap08:08 — The $10M deal unpacked: earn-out structure, revenue milestones, and what he actually collected10:17 — The co-founder split, the 25% influencer equity deal, and whether he'd do it again14:09 — How the influencer partnership worked and why they replicated it on Tapio26:17 — "Getting a ton of money up front feels unhealthy" — Thibault on why lump-sum exits are psychologically dangerous28:14 — The "frozen state": why founders can't ship after a big exit30:42 — The earn-out burnout period: stress, loss aversion, and the 18 hardest months of his life34:37 — "It was a bad decision financially" — Thibault's verdict on the sale38:15 — Nomadic life, the Vietnam hacker residency, and how wealth changes how he travels42:42 — No financial advisor, no trust in wealth managers — why everything goes into S&P 50045:29 — Personal spend breakdown: ~$8K/month — rent, food, tech gadgets, and that's basically it48:27 — What happens to the ~$90K/month delta: cash, S&P 500, and acquiring more products49:45 — The portfolio strategy: five products, two unannounced, and the 2026 scaling challenge51:12 — Building a distribution bridge between all his products with an AI agent53:06 — Raising kids with money: unconditional safety as the foundation for risk-taking

This week on Tapod, we catch up with Tibo Torche – Group Talent Acquisition Manager from Esri (Australia and South Asia). If you've ever checked a rain radar, or dialled before you dug – Esri probably provided the tech – and recruiting in this field is very interesting. We discuss process to tech-stack to AI and future plans. And the end of the day, Tibo has a teamwork-first philosophy and it has enabled him the build a highly successful team. It's a great episode and we learned a lot – you will too.Thanks to Daxtra for partnering with us this month. 

800m-loper Tibo De Smet vertelt hoe hij een tijdlang worstelde met zijn mentale gezondheid en hoe hij er is bovenop gekomen.

We're sipping on some delicious French wines and enjoying Charcuterie with Thibaud Duccini - the owner of the Wine Station in downtown LA. Tibo shares his story of bringing a taste of France to LA, from his early days working in restaurants to opening his own wine bar. We dive into the world of wine, from his favorite French wines to the process of becoming a sommelier. Plus, we're talking about his unique zero-ABV wine options and how they're perfect for Dry January.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Suivre Tibo Rugi sur Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/tibo_rugi/Tibo en live : https://www.billetweb.fr/tibo-rugi-requin4Le Guide Ultime Du Stand-Up, le livre de référence pour apprendre ou se professionnaliser est disponible sur Amazon. Visitez régulièrement le site www.standupfrance.fr pour de nouveaux articles hebdomadaires.Hébergé par Ausha. Visitez ausha.co/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

#156 - "On m'a collé toutes les étiquettes" - Politique, Argent, Vie de couple : Tibo InShape répond enfin sans filtre sur ce qu'il vit vraiment derrière la lumière.On parle de vie de couple et comment elle peut être impactée négativement par son travail, ses ambitions, la notoriété ou encore le porno. On décrypte sa personnalité, sa relation avec l'argent, ses baisses de statistiques Youtube, et les autres youtubeurs. On discute de politique, de dire ce qu'on pense, de cancel culture, et de la question de quitter (ou non) la France.Une longue discussion humaine où l'on dépasse les extraits hors contexte pour comprendre l'homme derrière le personnage, avec ses erreurs, ses doutes et ses choix pour l'avenir.Retrouve Tibo sur sa chaîne Youtube et sur instagram● Chapitres ●00:00 - Résumé de l'Épisode & Intro01:08 - Médias traditionnels, interviews & promo de son livre12:13 - Accro au sport : la routine actuelle de Tibo16:08 - Youtube : Super-productions VS Contenu brut19:30 - Retour sur le Boom du confinement23:01 - Pourquoi la Course à pied et le Marathon ?29:25 - D'autres objectifs d'Endurance ? Triathlon, Trail ?33:42 - Objectifs en Street Workout36:17 - Mariage, entretien de la vie de couple, rupture42:21 - Productivité, Discipline et Travail... à outrance ?55:46 - Impact de la Notoriété et des Haters01:04:17 - Retour sur toutes ses Polémiques01:12:35 - Être politiquement correct en 202501:22:37 - Arrêt du Porno & Rapport au Sexe01:33:11 - Arrêt de l'Alcool et du Sucre01:36:05 - Bilan des Shorts Youtube & plaisir à créer01:42:07 - Comment Tibo vit sa baisse de statistiques YT01:47:11 - Tibo exclu par les autres Youtubeurs français ?01:52:35 - Tibo Cancel d'événements et DTR Fight02:00:47 - Objectif Argent ou Abonnés ?02:06:38 - Salaire, impôts, et mentalités en France02:15:32 - Personnalité & Communication de couple02:21:25 - Quitter la France à cause des Taxes ?02:25:12 - Coaching Politique et Questions Pièges02:31:54 - Pourquoi avoir écrit un Livre ?02:34:12 - Voilà pourquoi Tibo quitterait la France02:37:14 - Ne pas juger les autres sans les connaître02:40 - 5 étoiles + Abonne-toi :DBonne écoute !

We hebben weer een korte(re) update van de Homegrown Player Usage in de BNXT League voor jullie, inclusief de inzet van U23-spelers en een mooi verhaal van Maarten over Tibo en Vince T'Joncke. Als liefhebbers van het Belgisch-Nederlands basketball promoten we graag de inzet van Belgische en Nederlandse spelers, en natuurlijk zien we jong talent graag doorbreken op onze velden. Samen met ThisIsBasketball geven we elke week inzicht in de stand van zaken op dat vlak!

durée : 00:09:17 - L'invité de 7h50 - par : Benjamin Duhamel - Ce matin à 7h50, notre invité est Tibo InShape, créateur de contenu, pour son livre “Derrière la lumière” (Amphora). Il évoque son salaire, son rapport au masculinisme, et sa bienveillance controversée avec les idées d'extrême droite. - invités : Thibaud Delapart - Thibaud Delapart : Vidéaste et entrepreneur français Vous aimez ce podcast ? Pour écouter tous les autres épisodes sans limite, rendez-vous sur Radio France.

durée : 03:58:49 - La Grande matinale - par : Sonia Devillers, Benjamin Duhamel, Florence Paracuellos, Anne-Laure Sugier - Ce matin sur France Inter, à 7h50 Tibo Inshape, pour son livre “Derrière la lumière". À 8h20, Xavier Bertrand, président LR de la Région Hauts-de-France. Et à 9h20, la série “CULTE – 2Be3”. Vous aimez ce podcast ? Pour écouter tous les autres épisodes sans limite, rendez-vous sur Radio France.

durée : 00:09:17 - L'invité de 7h50 - par : Benjamin Duhamel - Ce matin à 7h50, notre invité est Tibo InShape, créateur de contenu, pour son livre “Derrière la lumière” (Amphora). Il évoque son salaire, son rapport au masculinisme, et sa bienveillance controversée avec les idées d'extrême droite. - invités : Thibaud Delapart - Thibaud Delapart : Vidéaste et entrepreneur français Vous aimez ce podcast ? Pour écouter tous les autres épisodes sans limite, rendez-vous sur Radio France.

Tibo discusses how he sold his startups for $8M, emphasizing his approach of shipping one product per week, avoiding VC funding, and focusing on validation. He reflects on his journey with Tweet Hunter and Taplio, and shares his current challenge of growing five apps to $100K in monthly revenue. He stresses that distribution is more important than building in today's competitive market.Where to Find Tibohttps://www.linkedin.com/in/tibo-the-maker/https://x.com/tibo_maker?lang=enNeed Help Building Your Empire? Click Below

Le premier YouTubeur de France n'a aucun tabou, et surtout aucune limite dans sa progression sur les réseaux sociaux.Tibo InShape a commencé à faire des vidéos dans sa chambre en 2013 pour parler de musculation.Il est tombé dans la marmite en 2009, suite à une agression dans la rue qui l'a amené à pousser la porte du temple — la salle de muscu.Stakhanoviste, il publie sans relâche sur YouTube jusqu'à devenir, aujourd'hui, le YouTubeur français le plus suivi toutes catégories confondues, avec près de 27 millions d'abonnés et plus de 5 700 vidéos à son actif.Malgré ce succès colossal, il continue à tourner, monter et publier tous ses contenus verticaux seul, sans aucune aide, avec une cadence délirante : entre 4 et 6 par jour.“Ma force, c'est d'assumer tout ce que je dis”Mais cette honnêteté débridée lui a aussi valu son lot de polémiques auxquelles il répond sans détour dans cet épisode.On parle de tout (vraiment tout !) :Comment percer sur YouTube et créer des vidéos irrésistiblesComment il a soigné son rapport à la masturba*tion et aux films pour adultesSa vie de couple avec son épouse, Juju FitcatsSes (véritables) positions politiquesLes coulisses de ses business, pilotés exclusivement par sa familleComment développer le physique de ses rêvesUn épisode incroyable qui aborde tous les thèmes qui éveillent les passions et la curiosité. Et bon nombre d'apprentissages et bons conseils du meilleur “Bon Copain” de France.Pour vous faire bénéficier d'une remise sur sa boutique en ligne, Tibo nous a offert le code promo "nouveau 10" sur inshape-nutrition.com.TIMELINE:00:00:00 : Les défis dans un couple00:08:22 : Le passage de 0 à 27 millions d'abonnés00:22:14 : La gestion des business en bon père de famille, par la famille00:27:26 : La répétition garantit le résultat : l'art de “farmer”00:33:14 : Le bodybuilding, c'est de la musculation mais avec des stéroïdes00:39:09 : Les différents sports de Tibo et ses routines immanquables00:44:43 : Comment avoir un beau corps : les exercices incontournables00:57:38 : Le régime (drastique ?) de Tibo et les bases d'une bonne nutrition01:06:48 : Le syndrome du personnage principal01:14:30 : La meilleure stratégie pour percer sur YouTube01:25:07 : Comment être prolifique sur les contenus Shorts et TikTok01:37:48 : Le clash avec Squeezie et la pression constante des abonnés01:47:56 : Réponses aux accusations sur ses positions politiques02:06:42 : Le danger des films pour adultes, et comment s'en éloigner02:15:06 : Être le bon copain de plusieurs millions de personnes02:24:57 : Devenir un maître du hookLes anciens épisodes de GDIY mentionnés : #447 - Hugo Philip - Cruel Pancake - Faire 1,2 million en 2h : la puissance du personal branding#422 - Inoxtag - Vidéaste - Casser YouTube et rebattre les cartes de l'audiovisuel#476 - Yannick Alléno - Chef, Groupe Alléno - Du bistrot à l'empire gastronomique aux 17 étoiles#463 - Nicolas Spiess (Running Addict) - Campus - L'expert du running : transformer sa communauté en business rentableNous avons parlé de :Tibo InShape (YouTube)Inshape nutritionVêtements TeamShapeJuju Fitcats (YouTube)Combat de boxe de TiboETF DeadliftKAIZEN: 1 an pour gravir l'Everest !L'Envers du sport : Jake PaulGaryVee avec Codie SanchezTour de France : Au cœur du pelotonArticle dans le MondeCampus CoachN4BrandsLes recommandations de lecture :L'art de la victoireVous pouvez contacter Tibo sur LinkedIn et sur Instagram.Vous souhaitez sponsoriser Génération Do It Yourself ou nous proposer un partenariat ?Contactez mon label Orso Media via ce formulaire.Hébergé par Audiomeans. Visitez audiomeans.fr/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

Welcome to l'épisode 33 ! Un épisode qui commence avec un Pierre méga-grognon car flippé de l'éventuelle victoire du PSG en Ligue des Champions (en tant que supporter de l'OM, il n'y a rien de pire). Heureusement, il retrouvé des coulurs à l'évocation d'une émission avec Médine et un barbecue en banlieue (la géographique). De son côté, Avril, qui a repris les footings (qu'il déteste), décide de pousser le curseur de la folie encore plus loin en demandant à sa famille de ne plus l'appeler. On précise qu'il s'agit juste d'une demande de SMS, pas de liens qui se coupent brutalement, l'amour restant notre essence majeure - lol.On passe ensuite à des Faits Divers du Monde assez dark avec encore une fois des enfants qui décèdent, des camions qui se renversent et du airsoft qui tourne mal. Nouvelle masterclass tactique d'un Pierre presque impressionnan en terme de constance dans la défaite. Comme on s'est laissé trainer le long de cet épisode, il est déjà temps d'aborder le sujet final qui ne sera autre que le débat prévu entre Macron et Tibo in Shape. Un Macron qui n'abandonne rien et souhaite même "bonne nuit" de manière super mignonne à des équipages de train blasés. À peine le temps d'aborder un débat "vivre ans l'eau VS vivre dans les airs" et on vous dit à la semaine prochaine

Tibo Meeus is cosplayer en kostuumontwerper, bekend onder de naam Froyo. Wie zijn Insta-profiel bekijkt, heeft het meteen door: hij is bezeten door Barbie, K3 en… ‘Hocus Pocus'. Tibo leerde de Disneyfilm kennen op louche.nl, zelf had ik ‘m nooit eerder gezien. Die vertelt het verhaal drie heksenzussen uit 1693 die proberen onsterfelijk te worden door de levenskracht van een meisje te stelen. We worden terechtgesteld, maar kunnen in 1993 op Halloween terugkeren dankzij een slimme vloek. De film flopte aan de bioscoopkassa, ondanks de grote namen die betrokken waren: Kenny Ortega regisseerde, de hoofdrollen werden vertolkt door Bette Midler, Kathy Najimy en Sarah Jessica Parker. Intussen heeft ‘Hocus Pocus' een cultstatus verworven, is het vooral in de VS een ding rond Halloween en staat er sinds 2022 zelfs een sequel met dezelfde actrices op Disney+. We hebben het over heerlijke camp, grappige oude vrouwen en prachtige outfits. En zou ‘Hocus Pocus' een plekje verdienen in Disneyland?

800m-loper Tibo De Smet haalde geen plezier meer uit lopen, waardoor de prestaties wegbleven. Door te praten, mentale steun te zoeken en zich te richten op andere zaken, kwam hij er opnieuw bovenop. Samen met zijn coach Tine Bex vertelt hij over de moeilijke periode.

Vous aussi dans votre vision board 2025 y a une photo de Ciara, de Teyanah Taylor ou une autre femme qui représente votre body goal ? Lol ! Autant vous dire que nous, on n'y est pas encore... mais c'est pas grave hein, quitte à ne pas faire de sport, au moins parlons-en non ? non ?? Des gyms bros aux fit girls en passant par le comment du pourquoi le capitalisme a (encore lui) mis la main sur nos activités sportives, on fait le tour d'internet ! Stacy nous raconte comment elle a échappé au bac de sport alors que Manue a fait du sport toute sa personnalité avant de switcher pour la sportive du dimanche (enfin un dimanche par mois). On cite Francis Cabrel, on immite Tibo in shape, on se demande pour qui les mecs se musclent à la salle et si on dit pilates ou pilatès (non vraiment, si quelqu'un a la reponse...) Alors,  fit girls ? NOUS... euh... à discuter !  Les refs de cet épisode (parce qu'on essaie de faire notre job quand même!!): le documentaire ⁠Lorena⁠ sur Netflix (dsl on a trouvé la BA qu'en espagnol... allez savoir!) l'episode 107 du podcast Les couilles sur la table "⁠les mecs à la salle, muscler son haltère ego⁠" la ⁠video⁠ de Salem Tovar sur le ban TikTok les cours de sport de ⁠Madeleine Abeid⁠ sur YoutubeNos recos: Les jeux mobiles Blackbox, Two Dots, Linko et Pink L'episode “⁠Pourquoi se fouler à courir?⁠” du podcast Vivons heureux avant la fin du monde la newsletter ⁠5 bonnes histoires le vendredi⁠Retrouvez l'actualité du podcast sur IG ⁠⁠⁠@minuitlepodcast⁠⁠⁠ et surtout, partagez le podcast autour de vous, répandez la bonne nouvelle (merciii...bye!)Pour nous suivre sur IG: ⁠⁠⁠@cerisedaily⁠⁠⁠ et ⁠⁠⁠@em.2le⁠⁠

Episode 54 du podcast par @tibo-brtz - @la-phonkerie, 1h de mix avec une grosse sélection Trap, Phonk... Vous pouvez également retrouver ce podcast sur Apple Podcasts et YouTube. APRODMEDIA www.instagram.com/aprodmediaradio www.youtube.com/@aprodmediaradio/ TIBO BRTZ https://soundcloud.com/tibo-brtz https://tibobrtz.bandcamp.com/ https://www.instagram.com/tibobrtz/ LA PHONKERIE https://soundcloud.com/la-phonkerie https://www.instagram.com/laphonkerie https://laphonkerie.bandcamp.com/ TRACKLIST 1 - Lil' Rocketman - FUGITIVES w/ COSMASTLY 2 - myrror - THE LIVING DEAD PART 3 3 - ROLAND JONES - TIME 2 ROB W/ SOUDIERE 4 - WINDSMOKE - FACES 5 - Lil Uzi Vert - Watch This (Pluggnb Remix)(Prod. ARIZONATEARS) 6 - Om Unit - Citrus 7 - ESCPE - DUBLCUP 8 - SOUDIERE & BACKWHEN - MYERS 9 - Doctor Jeep - Cyber Funkz 10 - Wantigga - Skeptacore 11 - NUCLEAR - NO LOSS 12 - $MOKY P ($LR) - { Strasbourg Saint-Denis Blues Mood } (FULLBASSMIX) 13- ARTURO - COUNT THESE RACKERS 14 - ANVTHEMA - STAND YA GROUND 15 - DJ Eerie E - All Threw My Hood 16 - AMBER LONDON - Get Ya' Game Up [prod. Skylex] 17 - BACKWHEN & EVERYST - DOPE IN THE TRUNK 18 - ChrisTravis - Green & Red 19 - Pooh Shiesty - Shiesty Summer 20 - Duke Deuce, Made Men Mafia - Rep Yo Set 21 - EBG Ejizzle - Rumors 22 - Chief Keef - Petco (prod. Chopsquad DJ) 23 - Lil B - I'm God 24 - DJ Physical - Pickin A Victim (Outro) 25 - Mezer (the architect) - We Got The Funk 26 - MCR-T & Partiboi69 - Go To My Show 27 - Jengi - Summerdoubletime 28 - Mozn - Sense 29 - Flowdan - Horror Show Style (HØST Edit) 30 - Gali x Von Storm - Halo

We invite Joanna May into the clubhouse to discuss serialization. We get ever so slightly closer to discovering what serialization even is with Joanna's help! We also have a little time to throw a little shade at Stephen's commenting style and brackets on their own line.ChickensoftTibo, artist of the Chickensoft mascot.Eating your own dog food (Dogfooding) - WikipediaLogic Blocks - WikipediaSerializationProgrammingToolsSerialization - WikipediaBinaryFormatter migration guide -  gewarren, jeffhandley, terrajobst, adamsitnik, Microsoft Learn@JsonSubTypes vs. Reflections for Polymorphic Deserialization in Jackson - Ovidiu Mihai Tacu, BaeldungWhat are the advantages of just-in-time compilation versus ahead-of-time compil… - Stack OverflowIntrospection -  jolexxa [Joanna], GitHubIL2CPP Overview - UnityMartha had mentioned unit tests (which Mark and Stephen still don't do) in a previous episode.“That wasn't the angle I was going for.”Chickensoft Development Philosophy - ChickensoftJoanna MayGuestJoanna May is the creator of Chickensoft, open source tools for Godot and C# as well as a grassroots community. External linkChickensoft

Bienvenue dans un nouvel épisode de Sans Permission dans lequel nous retrouvons Tibo In Shape. Nous parlerons de son parcours, ses objectifs mais aussi bien d'autres sujets comme son business, ses conseils Youtube et l'insécurité en France. Bonne écoute !Hébergé par Ausha. Visitez ausha.co/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

Retour sur ce festival de bandes dessinées Blésois qui s'est déroulé le 22, 23 et 24 novembre 2024 accueillant chaque année plus de 20 000 visiteurs. Avec la participation de Afuro-Pixe, auteur de Tours aux éditions Petit à Petit et professeur à Brassart (compte instagram: @afuropixe ), Michel Maraone auteur de Le Chêne et le Grigou , Annie et Tibo, auteur et dessinateur de vingt ans aux éditions Un Poil Bleu (IG @unpoilbleu @_tibooooo ),Gaët's, scénariste de la série RIP aux éditions Petit à Petit (IG @gaets_bd ) et Sylvain, Bénévole sur le festival BD Boum. Merci à eux pour le temps et leur enthousiasme! Réalisé par Louise HOUALET Production : Radio Campus Tours ------------------------------------------------------ UNIVOX l'émission Les radios Campus scrutent en permanence l'écosystème jeunesses de leur territoire et tendent chaque semaine leurs micros aux étudiant.e.s, citoyen.ne.s engagé.e.s, habitant.e.s et associations des villes et des campus de France. Une radiographie bouillonnante et itinérante de l'écosystème étudiant. Tous les podcasts : https://www.radiocampus.fr/emission/univox ------------------------------------------------------ RADIO CAMPUS FRANCE Radio Campus France est le réseau des radios associatives, libres, étudiantes et locales fédérant 30 radios partout en France. NOUS SUIVRE | FOLLOW US www.radiocampus.fr Insta @radio_campus TW @radiocampus FB @radiocampus NOUS ÉCOUTER | LISTEN Site, webradios et podcasts www.radiocampus.frHébergé par Ausha. Visitez ausha.co/politique-de-confidentialite pour plus d'informations.

Retour sur ce festival de bandes dessinées Blésois qui s'est déroulé le 22, 23 et 24 novembre 2024 accueillant chaque année plus de 20 000 visiteurs. Avec la participation de Afuro-Pixe, auteur de Tours aux éditions Petit à Petit et professeur à Brassart (compte instagram: @afuropixe ), Michel Maraone auteur de Le Chêne et le Grigou , Annie et Tibo, auteur et dessinateur de vingt ans aux éditions Un Poil Bleu (IG @unpoilbleu @_tibooooo ),Gaët's, scénariste de la série RIP aux éditions Petit à Petit (IG @gaets_bd ) et Sylvain, Bénévole sur le festival BD Boum. Merci à eux pour le temps et leur enthousiasme! Réalisé par Louise HOUALET Production : Radio Campus Tours ------------------------------------------------------ UNIVOX l'émission Les radios Campus scrutent en permanence l'écosystème jeunesses de leur territoire et tendent chaque semaine leurs micros aux étudiant.e.s, citoyen.ne.s engagé.e.s, habitant.e.s et associations des villes et des campus de France. Une radiographie bouillonnante et itinérante de l'écosystème étudiant. Tous les podcasts : https://www.radiocampus.fr/emission/univox ------------------------------------------------------ RADIO CAMPUS FRANCE Radio Campus France est le réseau des radios associatives, libres, étudiantes et locales fédérant 30 radios partout en France. NOUS SUIVRE | FOLLOW US www.radiocampus.fr Insta @radio_campus TW @radiocampus FB @radiocampus NOUS ÉCOUTER | LISTEN Site, webradios et podcasts www.radiocampus.fr

Facilitator: Desi Topics:  what's new with the update IOS 18;  Changes in Calender reminder app;  Now can have 3 levels of audio ducking, can turn it completely off to no audio ducking at all,  Always on or just when Voice over is on;   Anyone used Astound app for a cable provider, ie, Tibo;  Anyone use the Walkie-Talkie on the Apple Watch?  It's Apple Watch to Apple Watch;   Can be used both inside the house and outside your house; The update changed Pages, moves the files down on page;  Brail Display may be effected;   Some users experience no problems with update;  Some having trouble getting out of FaceTime app;  Changes in Dictation;  Moving Apps from App library;   What's the best case for IPhone 16 Pro for chest mount; After installing update Messege in Setting about managing settings like setting up;  CarPlay, AirPlay;  Dragging and dropping apps into different app folders; Do all IPhone 16s have Lidar?   Lidar sensors have appeared only in IPhone 16 Pro models with certain apps;   Hearing a click while searchings in Settings; Trouble with being stuck in App Library;  What is Dynamic Island?  A secondary display that appears at the top of the iPhone's screen to show alerts and active tasks;  IOS 18 will allow a sighted friend remote access and help resolve issues on FaceTime on iPhone;  Toggle Live Regions and Announcements in Roter; Is adding new Tracks in Memos only on IPhone IOS 18; Using Send Later for Email messeges; Changing Rotor voices and Languages; When and how should you shut down your IPad, can do it with SIRI or holding side buttons;  iBUG Bytes:  Desi:   Changes in Settings with update to IOS 18; Changes in the way your Apps are listed under a button called Apps at the bottom of Settings;   Changes in searching the Apps in Settings

Pour l'épisode de cette semaine, je reçois Tibo Louis-Lucas, le fondateur de Typeframes, revid.ai, et feather.so. Au cours de cet épisode, nous avons exploré le parcours entrepreneurial de Tibo, depuis ses débuts avec Tweet Hunter et Taplio jusqu'à ses récents projets. Nous avons discuté de la manière dont il a su capitaliser sur ses succès passés pour lancer et développer plusieurs SaaS, tout en surmontant les défis liés à la gestion de multiples projets simultanément. Nous avons abordé les sujets suivants : La vente de Tweet Hunter et Taplio à Lempire et les leçons tirées de cette expérience. Les stratégies de lancement et de croissance pour Typeframes, revid.ai et feather.so. L'importance de l'écoute des utilisateurs et de l'amélioration continue des produits. Les défis et les opportunités dans l'économie des créateurs. Vous pouvez suivre Tibo sur LinkedIn et Twitter. Bonne écoute ! _____ Mentionnés pendant l'épisode : Product Hunt L'épisode #51 avec Tibo _____ Pour soutenir SaaS Connection en 1 minute⏱ (et 2 secondes) : Abonnez-vous à SaaS Connection sur votre plateforme préférée pour ne rater aucun épisode

Bienvenue dans Pur jus, le podcast de Camille & Justine en tête à tête. Cette semaine pas de changement niveau météo, il pleut à Paris is the new normal. Pour se remonter le moral on pioche des questions chill, on parle de nos derniers coups de coeur de bouffe, de Tibo in shape (pas un coup de coeur en revanche), et de nos premiers concerts, vous ne devinerez jamais ce qu'est allé voir Camille à 10 ans. Si cet épisode vous plait dites-le avec des commentaires et des étoiles ! Retrouvez-nous sur youtube, tiktok et instagram @camilletjustine. Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

Tibo Louis-Lucas is a serial founder, most well known for starting Tweet Hunter and Taplio in 2021, before selling the company in 2022 for 8 figures. Since then, Tibo has gone on to acquire an AI video creation tool, Typeframes, which he spun Revid.ai recently. He actually announced after recording this that he has left Tweethunter and is back to focusing on his early stage products, which we touch on in this episode. He's also started a newsletter with over 50k subscribers and has over 115k Twitter followers. Tibo is a bit of a legend in the indie maker sphere right now.Tibo and I covered so much ground in this episode I couldn't fit it all in, so the the full 40 minute conversation available on the Indie Bites membership for $60 a year. Head to indiebites.com/membership to get access.Timestamps:00:00 - Intro01:46 - Why failing is important for indie hackers03:30 - 1 product every 2 weeks05:16 - From $3 to $20k MRR with influencer partnership06:41 - Selling Tweet Hunter to Lempire08:40 - What did Tibo buy with his money10:34 - Acquiring Typeframe16:16 - RecommendationsRecommendationsBook: It Doesn't Have to be Crazy at WorkPodcast: AcquiredIndie Hacker: Marc Louvion; Damon ChenMy linksTwitterIndie Bites TwitterIndie Bites YouTubeJoin the membershipPersonal Website2 Hour Podcast CoursePodPanda (hire me to edit your podcast)This Indie Life PodcastSponsor - EmailOctopus

Everyone's an AI-powered startup nowadays. So how can you actually stand out and build a product or service that matters? Tibo Louis-Lucas knows a thing or two about building successful companies. He co-founded both Taplio and Tweethunter, two Saas products powered by AI that were sold for over $10 million. So how can your product or service stand a chance when just about everyone's an AI company? Let's dive in.  Newsletter: Sign up for our free daily newsletterMore on this Episode: Episode pageJoin the discussion: Ask Jordan and Tibo questions on AI and startupsRelated Episodes:Ep 196: The Silent AI Productivity Killer – Why companies can't fully leverage AIEp 126: Real Business Use Cases for AITomorrow' Show: 7 steps on how to ACTUALLY use ChatGPT in 2024Upcoming Episodes: Check out the upcoming Everyday AI Livestream lineupWebsite: YourEverydayAI.comEmail The Show: info@youreverydayai.comConnect with Jordan on LinkedInTimestamps:02:00 Daily AI News04:45 About Tibo and Taplio07:15 Building Taplio13:06 Unconventional partnership approach for growth.15:30 Excitement for creator economy, small product acquisitions.18:00 AI's capabilities and impact on startups22:14 Pressure to keep up with rapid AI changes.24:10 Opportunities for automation in companies, social media.Topics Covered in This Episode:1.  Leveraging AI in Startup Development2. Successfully Building and Growing AI Startups3. The Future of AI and Potential Product Development4. Key Advice for Young EntrepreneursKeywords:AI startup, stand out, generative AI, livestream, podcast, newsletter, Microsoft, Azure AI, Mistral, partnership, OpenAI, TechCrunch, European Commission, Apple, wearables, smart glasses, AirPods, Bloomberg, innovation, tech, science, culture, 11 Labs, Perplexity, Discover Daily, Tivo Louis Lucas, CTO, Taplio, tweet hunter, Lemnist, products, startups, video editing software, visualization AI.

Na convert yung tibo at gusto na nya ng lalake..

Matt and Nik speak with newly re-signed DL Tibo Debaillie on life in Belgium and his path to Canada. The fellas also break down some other key Lions signings and give their thoughts on Super Bowl 58 between Kansas City and San Francisco. Nik is also jacked for his first trip to Las Vegas! 0:00 - intro 2:54 - weekly BC Lions news 13:35 - CFL news 15:46 - Arrow Up talk 18:42 - Tibo Debaillie interview 36:27 - Go For it or Punt 44:06 - Super Bowl talk

Thibault Louis-Lucas (@tibo_maker), or Tibo for short, is the indie hacker and innovator behind successful ventures like TweetHunter and Taplio — which he sold for over $10M!In this episode, we unravel Thibault's thrilling journey from the joys of product creation to the intricacies of selling a business on the global stage. He shares his strategies for tripling revenue post-acquisition, the pivotal role of community engagement, and his candid insights on AI risks, nomadic lifestyles, and the ever-evolving tech landscape. Whether you're an aspiring entrepreneur or a seasoned developer, join us for an enlightening conversation that's as much a masterclass in the art of SaaS as it is a celebration of community and adaptability in the digital age.Tibo on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tibo_maker00:00:00 Building Products00:17:22 Building Stable Efficient Software Product00:24:59 AI Risks and Nomadic Lifestyle Discussion00:33:52 Video Content for Indie Hackers00:41:31 Building in Public, Power of FeedbackThis episode is sponsored by Acquire.comThe blog post: https://thebootstrappedfounder.com/thibault-louis-lucas-selling-a-10m-saas-and-building-another-one/The podcast episode: https://tbf.fm/episodes/288-thibault-louis-lucas-selling-a-10m-saas-and-building-another-one The video: https://youtu.be/csp6vI8lKt4You'll find my weekly article on my blog: https://thebootstrappedfounder.comPodcast: https://thebootstrappedfounder.com/podcastNewsletter: https://thebootstrappedfounder.com/newsletterMy book Zero to Sold: https://zerotosold.com/My book The Embedded Entrepreneur: https://embeddedentrepreneur.com/My course Find Your Following: https://findyourfollowing.comHere are a few tools I use. Using my affiliate links will support my work at no additional cost to you.- Notion (which I use to organize, write, coordinate, and archive my podcast + newsletter): https://affiliate.notion.so/465mv1536drx- Riverside.fm (that's what I recorded this episode with): https://riverside.fm/?via=arvid- TweetHunter (for speedy scheduling and writing Tweets): http://tweethunter.io/?via=arvid- HypeFury (for massive Twitter analytics and scheduling): https://hypefury.com/?via=arvid60- AudioPen (for taking voice notes and getting amazing summaries): https://audiopen.ai/?aff=PXErZ- Descript (for word-based video editing, subtitles, and clips): https://www.descript.com/?lmref=3cf39Q- ConvertKit (for email lists, newsletters, even finding sponsors): https://convertkit.com?lmref=bN9CZw (00:00) - Building Products (17:22) - Building Stable Efficient Software Product (24:59) - AI Risks and Nomadic Lifestyle Discussion (33:52) - Video Content for Indie Hackers (41:31) - Building in Public, Power of Feedback

E57: How did a man who declared bankruptcy turn into a multi-millionaire in just 2 years? Our guest today did just that. His incredible journey is one of resilience, innovation, and true entrepreneurial spirit.Today, host Yong-Soo (@YongSooChung) has a very special guest, Tibo Louis-Lucas (@tibo_maker), the genius behind TweetHunter and Taplio. Tibo reveals the secrets behind his meteoric rise. From understanding the market pulse, and relentless iteration of his products, to tapping into the right networks, he reveals the steps he took to sell his company for multi-million dollars after declaring bankruptcy just a few years prior.On today's episode, you'll learn:- How to Find Product-Market Fit- How to Grow By Acquiring Small Projects- How to Master the Art of Building in Public- The Power of MVP and User-Driven DevelopmentThis episode is not only an incredible story of resilience, it's a master class in product building!***SPONSORS: Castmagic - Enjoy an exclusive 30% discount for your first 3 months with the code FOUNDERS30.GrowthJet - Work with a boutique third-party logistics provider (3PL) for your e-commerce brand that'll pick, pack, and ship your orders hassle-free.***EXCERPTS:People Expect Reliability: "When you start having one foot on something like a Twitter or X scheduler, you need to provide awesome service. Like you need top quality products. You are not allowed to fail on posting content. Like people expect reliability." — Tibo Louis-Lucas (17:53)Pursuing Passion: "You need to build on something that you are deeply enjoying...So you need to be so passionate that you are truly enjoying what you are doing and you are willing to do it even if you have absolutely no guarantee that it's going to work out."  — Tibo Louis-Lucas (34:47)*** LINKS: Tweet HunterTaplioJOIN: First Class Founders Premium MembershipDOWNLOAD: Hyper-Visuals For Our Episodes (Free)***FOLLOW / REVIEW:- Follow - Leave 5-star review***CONNECT W/ YONG-SOO:- X- Threads- LinkedIn- Newsletter***First Class Founders is a show for indie hackers, bootstrapped founders, CEOs, solopreneurs, content creators, startup entrepreneurs, and SaaS startups covering topics like build in public, audience growth, product marketing, scaling up, side hustles, holding company, etc. Past guests include Arvid Kahl, Tyler Denk, Noah Kagan, Clint Murphy, Jay Abraham, Andrew Gazdecki, Matt McGarry, Nick Huber, Khe Hy, and more. Episode you might like:Future of Newsletters with Tyler Denk, Founder & CEO at BeehiivFrom Zero to 100K Subscribers: How to Grow Your Newsletter like a Pro with Newsletter Growth Expert Matt McGarry...

Pony Express Studio is a company built by makers, for makers. That concept has driven their success, to the tune of $3.5M in annual recurring revenue. Founder Thibault Louis-Lucas shares insider insights on how to launch a startup with this kind of potential in today's episode. Thibault didn't hit on this 7-figure startup idea right away. He launched 9 other products that failed before he found success with Pony Express Studio. He's also worked as a web developer and the CTO of a marketing automation company. He'll share how these past experiences (and failures) helped him find success with tools like Tweet Hunter, Taplio, and ProductLift.As an active maker, Thibault is an expert in how to launch a product. We'll find out how he designs and builds the products for Pony Express, how he markets them once they're launched, and the metrics he tracks after launch to gauge its success. Anyone who wants to bring a new product to market the right way will want to hear Thibault's story and advice!Resources:Pony Express Studio - Learn more about Pony Express Studio on their websiteTwitter.com/tibo_maker - Connect with Tibo on XUpFlip HUB - Get knowledge and tools to succeed as a business owner  From Content Agency to $70K+/Month SaaS Company - UpFlip podcast episode 65 with the founder of WorkelloTweet Hunter - Tool to build and monetize a following on XTaplio -  AI-driven platform to grow engagement on LinkedInThe Mom Test - Book by Rob Fitzpatrick on how to tell if your business is a good ideaConnect with UpFlip: On Facebook On Instagram @UpFlipOfficial on Twitter For more insights to start, build, or grow a business, check out the resources on UpFlip.com or head to the UpFlip YouTube channel to see more interviews with business owners and experts. Thanks for listening!

Dans cet épisode, j'accueille Tibo Inshape, figure emblématique du sport et du Youtube français. Il nous parle sans filtres de son entreprise, de ses motivations quotidiennes mais aussi de ses futurs projets. Vous découvrirez Tibo sous un tout autre angle, et dans une transparence totale. Bonne écoute à vous, et n'oubliez pas de mettre 5 étoiles si le podcast vous plait !

Welcome to episode 156 of Kickoff Sessions! In this session, I sit down with Tibo Louis-Lucas, an entrepreneur who achieved a multimillion-dollar exit in less than two years. Tibo is the founder of Tweet Hunter and Taplio. In this session, we go deep into his product development strategy, creating and validating a new product weekly. We break down Tweet Hunter and Taplio, two products that blew up in recent years. Learn about Tibo's experimentation with AI-generated tweets and the implications of AI in social media and society. Gain insights on identifying pain points, adapting based on customer feedback, and marketing your product in today's market. We get into the realities of the entrepreneurial world and the future of AI. If you enjoy this pod, please leave a 5 star rating on Spotify and a review on Apple podcasts.⏺️ Voics: https://www.voics.co/

Ron and Dave are joined by Gilles Thibault as they talk about gaming paralysis.

Join Zam while he has 'ONE on ONE's' with skateboarders & musicians talking about Life, Skateboarding, & Music.  In the fifty-third episode of 'One on One', Zam sat down with Tibo from Lus Lullies to talk about music & life.   tsmmedia.website --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/true-skateboard-mag/message

Avec Nash et Guigui Pop. On en parle de choses dans cet épisode : de Pâques, de Jésus, de Chat GPT, de légendes urbaines, de président qui risque la prison, de Shokobons, du jeu du Tibo in Fake, de coiffeurs et du pénis de 50 Cents.Tu peux nous laisser des bonnes notes sur ta plateforme d'écoute et/ou en parler autour de toi, le bouche-à-oreille, c'est toujours chanmé ! Bises,Flo. Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

Have you ever wondered what it takes to build a successful startup? Well, I am excited to share with you my conversation with Tibo, the founder of TweetHunter, a startup that sold for millions. I had the pleasure of having Tibo as our guest. He shared with us the growth of TweetHunter, including a partnership with Twitter influencer JK Molina, and the challenges of setting up the partnership. Tibo also highlighted the key factors that contributed to the success of TweetHunter, such as having a great product with a strong brand, strong marketing, and good customer support. We also discussed the acquisition of TweetHunter and the challenges of building a new product after its success. Thank you to our sponsor, HivoeCheckout HivoeUse OFF10 for 10% DiscountAbout The PodcastJoin The WBE CommunitySponsor the podcastBut WBE MerchBuy The Bootstrapper's GuideDM me on TwitterBackground MusicMusic: https://www.chosic.com/free-music/all/ 

Welcome to the debut episode of the “Million Dollar Exits”, a special  series brought to you by The Build In Public Podcast.This episode features Tibo Louis-Lucas, founder that created and scaled Tweet Hunter, a SaaS startup, from idea to a multi-million dollar exit. He is also the Founder of Taplio, Co-Founder of Pony Express and recently received a “Maker of the Year” Golden Kitty award on Product Hunt.In this interview, Tibo discusses his experience and perspectives on topics such as:• Receiving an award for being the “Maker of the Year" on Product Hunt• Tibo's journey in building Tweet Hunter• When and how did Tibo get the idea to start his business• The importance of establishing trust as the foundation of a personal brand• How Tibo and his co-founder decided to market personal branding and not just Tweet Hunter• Tibo's thoughts when Guillaume, a middle school buddy who turned out to be his acquirer, approached him about the strategic acquisition• The acquisition details they had with Lempire and their current ARR• Navigating competitors and competition• Tibo's 3 tips for those still in the validation phase• Killer features of Tweet Hunter that made them stand out• Tibo's journey from the validation points from having one customer to having $1k ARR• Tibo's viewpoint on some Twitter users who dislike threads and his suggestions on how to embrace them• Three useful Twitter audience-building tips• What's next for TiboMillion Dollar Exits is a special podcast series that uncovers insider stories and actionable lessons with founders who went from an idea to 7-figure exits.It is a special segment within the Build In Public Podcast - an interview show where KP chats with ambitious startup founders, CEOs, and top Internet creators to unpack their stories, insights, and lessons.Shoutout To Our Episode Sponsor:Paralect is a venture studio built to design, build and launch a product for you that is ready to sell in under 2 months. Start with no-code or go full-stack right away.Visit their website: https://www.paralect.com/?utm_source=milliondollarexitsShare your thoughts in the comment section.Thanks for listening, would love it if you can spread the word and share this with your friends/peers on Twitter/Linkedin/other platforms.Links:Tibo's Twitter: https://twitter.com/tibo_makerKP's Twitter: https://twitter.com/thisiskp_

Tibo started his career selling TVs and now makes $1M in ARR from his Twitter growth tool, TweetHunter. We talk about learnings from the first startup, shipping a product every 2 weeks, success of TweetHunter, acquiring initial users, finding a co-founder, making $1M ARR, and more. SPONSORS BridgeUp: DM me on Twitter to raise $100,000+ in non-dilutive capital Listnr: https://listnr.tech/?via=prashant Dukaan: https://mydukaan.io/ Recast: https://recast.studio/ CONNECT Prashant Bagga: https://linktr.ee/prashantpbagga Billion Moonshots: https://linktr.ee/billionmoonshots GUEST LINKS Twitter: https://twitter.com/tibo_maker LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thibaultll/ OUTLINE (0:00) Selling TVs (2:32) First Startup: Motivating Kids to do chores (9:50) Shipping a product every 2 weeks (14:59) Success of TweetHunter (19:26) Acquiring Initial Users & Finding Co-founder on Twitter (25:20) How to validate idea (28:18) Importance of building audience for Founders (34:55) Marketing your side projects (36:49) Making $1M ARR from TweetHunter (40:45) The viral TweetHunter Challenge (43:48) Replicating TweetHunter Success on LinkedIn TOP EPISODES 77: Shashank Kumar, Founder of Razorpay [Hindi] 75: Kyla Scanlon, Founder of Bread 74: Adam Jackson, Co-founder of Braintrust 68: Natalie Brunell, Host of Coin Stories Podcast 62: Suumit Shah, CEO of Dukaan [Hindi] Past guests of Billion Moonshots include Shashank Kumar, Suumit Shah, Natalie Brunell, Kyla Scanlon, Adam Jackson, Danielle Strachman, Chirag Taneja, Suhas Motwani, Aditya Mohanty, Jan-Philipp Peters, Mo Islam, Sang Le, Grace Ling, Joseph Choi and many more.

Thibault Louis-Lucas, known as Tibo, is a serial entrepreneur and the co-founder of Tweet Hunter and Taplio. However, Tibo's entrepreneurial journey was far from an overnight success. Prior to Tweet Hunter, he attempted to launch & scale two startups with little success. His new approach was to launch 11 products, 1 every week or two, and see what sticks, i.e. what gets the most traction with users. Once they figured out what worked, then the real work started. Tibo and I discussed: How he recently sold his company and for how much His 250k loan from the French government His "failed" startups The entrepreneurial scene in France Why Twitter was crucial to their success What were some of the other products they shipped The importance of "personal branding" alongside building a company The rise of digital nomads & solopreneurs Why giving away a piece of the company was the best move they made The rise of AI And so much more... TIBO My Take: Failure isn't final, and success isn't eternal. The key is to always progress, move forward and try new things. With the number of new tools available to entrepreneurs and online creators, it's never been easier to build. With that said, the standards by consumers for products have never been higher. The only way to ensure success is to try, try, & try again until something eventually sticks. Support The Podcast Catchphrase eBook

Hello and welcome to The Stress Factor Drum and Bass Podcast episode number 299. We have DJ Tribo back with our last episode before the milestone show 300, which Tribo will be participaing in as well. Neil has mixed up an excellent set of the best new drum and bass out at the moment. Total quality here with no filler. The show features 16 tracks and a runtime of 64 minutes. This episode features tracks and remixes from Total Science, Zero T, CIA Records, Molecular, Sofa Sound, Elipsa, UKF Records, Dauntless, Dispatch Recordings, Walk r, Carbon Music, C Critz, Delta9 Recordings, S.P.Y , DARKMTTR Records, DJ Rap , Propa Talent, LaMeduza, Phase, Overview Music, Bowsar, Demand Records, MC Fava, Command Strange, V Recordings, GLXY, Javeon, Unglued, Shogun Audio, ZeroZero, Riya, Agressor Bunx, Hanzom Music, ALB, RAM Records, Charli Brix, Lenzman, Slay, and Flexout Audio. Full quality 320k MP3 can be download here under the "more" button. SHARE, COMMENT, LIKE AND FOLLOW TRIBO AND THIS MIX!!! Tracklist 01. Total Science, Zero T - It's Not Over (Zero T Remix) [CIA Records] 02. Molecular - Acid Funk [Sofa Sound] 03. Elipsa - Dangerous [UKF Records] 04. Dauntless, Cern - No Quarter [Dispatch Recordings] 05. Walk r - Mirrors [Carbon Music] 06. C Critz - Panic [Delta9 Recordings] 07. S.P.Y - Night Fury [DARKMTTR Records] 08. DJ Rap - U Don't Know Me [Propa Talent] 09. LaMeduza, Phase - Fuoco [Overview Music] 10. Bowsar - LTTVP [Demand Records] 11. MC Fava, Command Strange - Choices [V Recordings] 12. GLXY, Javeon, Unglued - Something Good [Shogun Audio] 13. ZeroZero, Riya - Bring the Heat [CIA Records] 14. Agressor Bunx - Supersonic [Hanzom Music] 15. ALB - My Time [RAM Records 16. Charli Brix, Lenzman, Slay - MAZI [Flexout Audio]

In this episode, High-Ticket Mentor, Coach, and Founder, Michelle Hext, talks about creating successful high-ticket offers. Today, Michelle talks about her story from running Martial Arts studios to high-ticket coaching, the reasons why offers don't sell, and the importance of keeping it real. What counts as a high-ticket offer? Hear about avoiding market research and analysis, determining your pricing, the pandemic's effect on business, and get Michelle's advice to her younger self, all on today's episode of The Healthy, Wealthy & Smart Podcast.   Key Takeaways “The biggest thing that you can do to avoid competition, just always be 100% yourself.” “They don't want you to look like every other person on social media. They want you to be you. They want you to be real.” “Go into your bubble, and don't look left or right. Look within because everything you have is inside of you.” “Usually it's not about the price, but people think it's about the price.” “If you have to do the mindset work, something's not right.” “Become a specialist and focus on one thing.”   More about Michelle Hext For over 30 years, Michelle Hext has been a mentor, and since she was a child, the business of creating, growing, and scaling high-value products has been a part of her DNA. Michelle has a history of building successful brick-and-mortar businesses and online companies. Her area of expertise is helping entrepreneurs create high-cost brands. This involves launching, growing, and scaling high-cost offerings. So, her clients can only choose to work with high-end clients who want results. Michelle's regular audience is people who want Launch & Scale, a high-ticket coaching brand. She's trained hundreds of coaches and experts a year with her mentor program. So, Michelle has a pretty good idea of the kind of content they listen to.   Suggested Keywords Healthy, Wealthy, Smart, Business, Success, Offers, Social Media, Branding, Packaging, Confidence, Monetization,   Special Offer: 5 Days to 5K   To learn more, follow Michelle at: Website:          https://www.michellehext.com Facebook:       Michelle Hext Instagram:       @Michellehext   Subscribe to Healthy, Wealthy & Smart: Website:                      https://podcast.healthywealthysmart.com Apple Podcasts:          https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/healthy-wealthy-smart/id532717264 Spotify:                        https://open.spotify.com/show/6ELmKwE4mSZXBB8TiQvp73 SoundCloud:               https://soundcloud.com/healthywealthysmart Stitcher:                       https://www.stitcher.com/show/healthy-wealthy-smart iHeart Radio:               https://www.iheart.com/podcast/263-healthy-wealthy-smart-27628927   Read the Full Transcript Here:  00:02 Hey Michelle, welcome to the podcast. I'm happy to have you on. Thanks for joining me.   00:07 Thank you so much for having me. I'm happy to be here.   00:10 Excellent. And before we get into, I'm sure what a lot of people are tuning into here is, how do we create and sell high ticket offers, which I promise we will get to. But before we do, let's talk a little bit more about you. So tell the listeners a little bit more about how you got to this point of where you are helping coaches and entrepreneurs create, sell and position their business for high ticket offers.   00:37 Yeah, so I started, you know, my very first business was back in like, we're going back to the early 90s, the very early 90s. And my first coaching was in the form of martial arts, I owned martial art schools, and along the way, developed a bunch of other things to bring to my skill set. So in 1991, I started instructing Taekwondo, the martial art of Taekwondo. By the mid 90s, I had my own schools. And, you know, you get to a point where you're instructing and teaching people to fight for contact, and grade for a high belt levels, like black belt and things like that. And you know, you're alive as a coach, because a lot of resistance comes up for people. And so I always, am really happy that I had that that early training in coaching about helping people to overcome resistance. Resistance is resistance, it doesn't matter whether it's whether you're going to launch an offer, or whether you're going to go and fight or grade for about, it's all very, very similar. So it really taught me to help extract the best out of people. And it also really taught me that people are very, very different. And you could instruct one person in a certain way or say things to them in a certain way and draw out the best of them. And it would have zero effect on somebody else. So really got a good education in human nature, and how to read people and how to get the best out of people. So I had my martial art schools for a number of years, still trained today. So it's still a very big part of my life, but it's no longer part of my business life. I outgrew the bricks and mortar business model, it just didn't challenge me anymore many, many years ago. And so along the way, I've always been a bit of a natural entrepreneur. So even when I had my martial arts schools Tibo was the thing. And so I decided I was going to create my own Tibo type program. So I called it power. And I had somebody come in and film me. And this was before even DVD. So they recorded them. And I was selling these in martial arts magazines as cassette tapes, like video cassettes with a with a manual, because I wanted to bring that type of workout into martial arts school safely. I wanted them to be able to leverage this new phenomenon, but I wanted them to be able to do it in a way that they felt confident to deliver it. So I created this syllabus and branding and all that sort of stuff and sold that through magazines. And I was always doing different things like that looking for different angles. I became a personal trainer, I as well, to add to my martial arts school, I, I had a full time center and I added a personal training studio was always just looking for ways to increase my bottom line, and to keep myself interested and inspired in the work that I was doing. And in around the 99, I think it was coaching became a thing, it became an actual industry that was making a noise in the US and it filtered its way back to Australia. And I thought, This is what I do anyway. So I'm gonna go ahead and do this. So I went and got myself qualified as a coach. And I've been coaching ever since. So at one point, I had taekwondo school on one side of the street and my business coaching offices on the other side of the street. And I was juggling both and young children and all that sort of stuff. And just over the years, it's been a very I guess I've followed my nose, but the business that I have now, where I work with, you know, high level clients, they invest quite significantly in me because they they want to create some success pretty quickly. And it's all just been an evolution of the same sort of thing. So my first high ticket offer was off of the back of a book that I wrote called The Honorable martial arts entrepreneur. And it taught people how to niche their coaching business, sorry, the martial arts business, how to market it and all those sorts of things. And that was off the back of me launching a women's only martial art school that was very successful.   05:00 And then I moved into the female entrepreneur space and launched a 27 and a half $1,000 mastermind, within like four weeks of launching that brand, and had a $200,000 launch, it did really well, it was a lot easier to sell to female entrepreneurs than it was to martial art school owners. And then I've been doing very similar work ever since that was 2014. But I've just really narrowed my niche now to work with coaches and consultants, because they're, they're the people that I had the most impact over and in this industry specialists who want to move into that coaching consulting space. And so now I work with clients from kind of all around the world. My fee these days is 10,000 us a month for four weeks, which is a long stretch from when I first started, I think I was charging 1200 for 12 weeks or something like that. So it's not necessarily been very strategic, it's just I paid attention to when it was time for me to grow and expand into the next kind of level. And I've just done that, without too much fanfare or drama or anything like that. I've just yeah, really just trusted my instincts along the way.   06:16 That's quite the evolution of being an entrepreneur, you know, starting with the martial arts studios to where you are now. It's quite a journey. And thanks for sharing that. And I think it also at for me highlights, what one bout of let's say, education or position, you know, as a fifth degree black belt, correct? Yes. So your training as a fifth degree black belt has really spilled over and helped to, I think inform you going forward. And a lot of people who listen to this podcast are physical therapists, their trainers are entrepreneurs. And I think it's so important, like, you don't give away your let's say, in my case, I'm a physical therapist, I can use that physical therapy education, to improve coaching programs, and to inject it into coaching programs, because of the years of experience as a PT, just kind of like what you did as a coach.   07:23 Yeah, and nothing is ever wasted. You know, I, I had online fitness businesses as well. And I remember there were women who were coming along and participating in my online fitness programs. And one of them was in my business mentorship program. Last year, we're talking a span of close to 20 years, you know, these women come along and they they participated in my programs, then they became personal trainers, because they were interested in the fitness space. And then they were using me to help them grow their businesses. So it's, yeah, and all of the things that I've learned, whether it's the fitness stuff, whether it's the martial arts stuff, whether it was the taking myself back to school stuff, and never using the course that I enrolled in and, and things like that nothing is ever ever wasted. And I know you're gonna ask me a question about competition, you know, and saturated markets and things like that. And I'm going to kind of segue into that if you're okay with that, oh, for the what, what, I don't believe there is any competition, I don't believe I have competition, I just don't consider that I never have regardless of the business type I was running. And the reason is exactly what I just spoke about, nobody's had the same education experiences, life experiences, or anything else that I have had, nobody is going to have my unique take on things, or my unique approach to the way that I do things and see things and, you know, am I able to take a big picture and simplify it into the, you know, a three point to do list sort of thing, because that's just the way that I've consumed information and processed it and how I you know, all of the different things. And it's the same for any coach, any consultant, you can have, I love to use this, this example. So you can have somebody that is looking for, let's just say a social media coach, right? Say somebody is in the market for a social media coach. And I want you to imagine that there are 20 Social media coaches all lined up sitting at a sitting in a row. And we have 20 people coming along to hire a social, social, social media coach, and they all sit down and it's like speed dating, they get to go and you know, have a conversation with every single social media coach and choose the one that they want. They're not going to pick the same one. Because what's going to come into play is, oh, you've got young kids as well. Oh, I know what a handful that is. Oh, you like martial arts as well. Oh, wow, I trained in martial arts, they're going to connect with the human being and human beings experiences and things like that. And so the biggest thing that you can do to avoid competition is trying to be like everybody else. Just always be 100% yourself and let all of the weirdness and the quirks and, you know, all these parts of you that make you up, be there, you know, I, I would never say, Well, I'm just not talking about martial arts anymore, because that's just not what I do. Like, people remember that I have a fifth degree black belt, you know, it says something about me. It's not relevant to my business these days, but it's something that people will remember. And so yeah, that's my little kind of rant on that.   10:43 Yeah, no, I think that's great. And I oftentimes, we don't, we, we feel like revealing too much personal information could be detrimental. But like you said, that's the way someone's going to connect with you. So it's okay to reveal some personal information, some background information, I'm like, obviously, you don't have to give away like your personal medical history if you don't want to. But it's a way that people can make a connection with another human being.   11:15 They want you to be real, you know, I have this this phrase that I, I'm writing another book at the moment, and it's what I say something along the lines of, they don't want you to be another instance step by step and printer, you know, where it's like The Stepford Wives sort of thing. They don't want that they don't want you to look like every other person on social media, they want you to be you, they want you to be real. And if we have a look at people like Celeste Barber, the comedian and we have a look at in Australia, we have a woman called Mia free, Friedman, who has she hosts a website called Mamma Mia. And she's always looking like a hot mess. You know, she's doing her live streams, putting makeup on and the washing powder in the background and things like that, you know, people I mean, you've got to choose your market, right? Mike, you're not going to see that in my space, because I'm operating in a you know, a different brand. But people love those women, you know, they love the relatability. And so, you know, we've got to walk that fine line between depending on our brand. But for me, it's like wanting to be aspirational and inspirational, but also keeping it really real. So people understand that, you know, I'm just a regular being like I'm wearing I showed you before, I've got a lovely top on and earrings, and I've got my workout gear on down the bottom. So I can race out and go to the gym. And I don't hide that, you know, I talk about that. And so I want people to understand that sometimes, you know, things look so polished in brands, that they just not people feel like it's not attainable. They feel like it's just an overload overwhelms people. So we want to be able to keep things real.   12:52 Yeah, excellent advice. And now let's get into talking about high ticket offers. First question, what is a high ticket offer? What is considered high ticket?   13:03 Yeah, so, um, you know, there are all different, I guess, explanations of what a high ticket offer is. For me, there's no magical figure that you crossed, that puts you into high ticket territory. It's very, very much subjective and individual to the person. So I've worked with clients who were charging $100 for a coaching session. And suddenly they have a two and a half 1000 or $5,000 coaching package, that's high ticket for them. I also work with clients like a client recently sold an $85,000, US dollar paid in full upfront coaching package. And that was a 12 month package. Amazing. She's an E commerce coach. But within about two weeks, I messaged her and I said, we've got to cut that back. That's going to be a six month course you can't be doing that for 12 months. And she's like, Yep, cool. But we sometimes play around with timeframes and things like that to get used to charging the higher prices. And for my clients to feel really confident in selling it because the confidence is a big thing. But coming back to the high ticket offer thing. For me a high ticket offer is a price point that feels really big for the for the for the coach putting it out there. And oftentimes for the prospective client as well. It means that you're purchasing or you're selling a premium offer. The client is expecting a premium level of service and because they get that you have the ability to work more closely with those clients, give them more thought time even if you're not with them. And so the results are better. Always. You know, I had a client sign up. I was in Fiji a little while ago. We had our first session on Tuesday. By Thursday, she had sold two coaching packages two days, you know, which is incredible. So she hit her coaching sorry, her revenue goal within two days. That was the monthly revenue goal that we had set up And so yeah, it's giving them the confidence and all of those sorts of things to go out there and know that they've got a rock solid offer that's going to impact people and all that sort of stuff. And then they, they sell.   15:13 And I'm sure that you work with your clients, looking at market research, and whatever the niche it is that you're trying to sell this high ticket offer in? Do you know what I mean? So, you don't   15:28 know No, no, no, I don't want my clients looking at anybody else. I don't want them doing any research. I don't want them doing anything like that. Because what that does is it distracts them from what is their zone of genius. So it's almost like, if you imagine my, my clients come to me, and they're a glass of perfect water, you know, it's very crystal clear, it's in a clear glass. And then they start to look outside, and they start to get ideas. And every one of those dumb ideas they bring back is like a drop of black ink that goes into the water, you know, and it muddies the waters, and we don't want that. So it's my job, whether it's one on one or through my programs or whatever to help them extract what is unique and special about them that they can deliver into the market. And then we you know, we shape it into a monetize product. But I want them to get clear about what are they love to do? Where do they have the greatest level of impact? Where can they produce the best type of results? What's the work that feels effortless to them? And then the biggest hurdle, the resistance is helping them to understand that that is enough. You know, because typically, they want to add bells and whistles or go learn something or something like that, but they don't need to. Right. So if we look at, for example, your physical therapist, you've created a an incredibly successful practice. Or maybe it's you've created an incredibly successful podcast in this space. And so if you said to me, you know, I want to, I want to teach this, I want to work with clients so that they can do this as well. I'm not going to send you to do right market research, hell no. I'm going to say, Okay, let's figure out, you know, all know, if there's, if it's the offer makes sense or not. Or if there's a market for it or anything like that. And I will tell you straight away, no, that won't work, or no. Like, I've seen that before it doesn't work or whatever it is, but I'm going to help you figure out how we get to harness what you have. How you would do it. And then yeah, create a way to monetize it.   17:41 Yeah, so you don't get into that wheel of like analysis paralysis, right? Where it's just or worse, comparing yourself to others and then get, then maybe you might run the risk of giving up 100%. So   17:55 my client that sold two packages within two days, she would never have done that. If she went around and tried to figure out how other people are doing it. And then getting into this comparison itis because somebody's website's prettier. You know, it's like, no, that's not what we want to be doing. So yeah, my advice to your listeners is go into your bubble, and don't look left or right, like look within because everything, everything you have is inside of you. And if you don't know how to get it out of you, in a way that makes sense in a way to package it. That's when you get help but, but ensure that you you find somebody that's going to help you pull out the best of you not say, Hey, I've got this system, let's just mold you to fit this system over here. We don't want that.   18:41 And, you know, I was gonna go into sort of five reasons why your coaching offer or your high ticket offer isn't selling, I feel like we might have gotten number one, I think we might have one that we just talked about. Right? Is not looking out and looking towards everyone else.   18:59 Yeah. So there are a number of reasons, right? So the first reason is, it's not clear. So they're not clear about what it is that they're actually selling. And the content, whether it's a sales page, whether it's an email, or whatever it is, it's not giving enough detail about what this is about. So we can get in our own head, right? Because we know what we do. We know exactly. And so if we take shortcuts on the explanation, people will miss the point. Another reason people aren't putting enough of themselves on the line. So what I mean by that is you've got to go on, make a big promise and then just back yourself that you're going to be able to back up that promise you're going to be able to deliver it. And so one of my programs is called the for 5k formula for coaches, I first launched this in about 2016, or 2017. It used to be a $5,000 coaching package, four week coaching package. And the way that I sold it is create and sell your first $5,000 offer in four weeks or less. And 90% of the people did, some people didn't, but like, that's the industry we're in, nobody has 100% success rate. And so people were buying that I couldn't keep up with the demand, I had to leverage it as a group program. After that, I couldn't keep up with the demand, because the promise was really frickin clear. Pay me $5,000, I'm going to show you how to make you know, at least that in the first month, most people saw between two and four packages. And like, that's a no brainer, right? It's a no brainer for people to do that. But if I said to them, Hey, you know, I'm gonna teach you how to price and package and position your offer over four weeks, like it's kind of compelling. But it's like they want to sell it like what they want, ultimately, is to make money, they want to be selling this thing. And so for me, that's the big promise, I'm going to show you how to, I'm going to show you where to find that first client and make that first sale. And so a lot of times that that big promise isn't anywhere near compelling enough.   21:19 Yeah, got it. So not enough detail of what it's about which I you know, I've seen so many times I'll be on I'm like, What is this? I don't yet, it's just you know, it's the sales page that keeps scrolling and scrolling. And you're like, I don't know what's happening here.   21:37 So even if people have spent money on copywriting, the copywriter hasn't got the instruction that you've given them about what this is what this isn't, this is what people get when they do it. Like they're gonna wishy washy it all over the place and have beautiful language, but nobody still has a clue what it is   21:52 no clue. Not enough. So not delivering on the promise. Right? So making them not miss making the promise.   22:01 Yeah, right.   22:03 What else? What are some other reasons why your offer isn't selling?   22:09 Usually, it's not about the price, but people think it's about the price. So they'll tell themselves things like, Oh, I think I should charge less for this. And then it still doesn't sell. And it's because of another reason. It's because it's not clear. Or it's because you're not confident in your ability to deliver the offer. And the energy is a little bit funky. And you might be saying one thing, but if all your energy is saying something else, and people pick that up on the internet very, very easily. Yeah, why else be because they're not asking for the sale. It's like, they're creating content to Wazoo all over the place. And they just expecting that people are going to make the the leap from Oh, she's telling me this nice thing that's very useful. Oh, let me go find out if I can work with her. And if there's a way to work with it, and that doesn't happen, right? We're busy, we're scrolling. We've got to stop the scroll. We've got to engage people with our content. But then we've got to say, go buy this thing. Go buy this thing or jump on this call or whatever it is. So yeah, no call to action. There just isn't a call to action.   23:18 Yeah, yeah. And circling back to having this funky energy or, you know, not feeling confident. So, in my mind, I think mindset issues. So how do you work with your clients, when they're in that mindset mind set of maybe not being confident and feeling bad about charging money for their services? I'm sure you've heard that in the past.   23:47 Yeah, yeah. So I'm just gonna add one more thing, and then I'll jump on to that. The other thing is the sales process. So I saw an offer the other day, and it was like $5,000, for four weeks or something like that. And it was a Facebook ad ran directly to a sales page and a Buy Now button. And it's like, people don't buy like that, like, you know, give them a you know, warm them up with a lead magnet or some sort of content, have a on the on the sales page, have a, you know, book a discovery call, or, you know, message me to find out more or something like that. But it's like that sales process is screwed up. And it doesn't make sense. So the higher the offer, the more usually time you're going to have to spend letting people know especially if you're dealing with cold traffic, warm traffic is different. But a lot of people are trying to point $5,000 sales pages at cold traffic, and it really doesn't work. You're just wasting money. So that's that. And when it comes to the mindset stuff, and you were asking me, so if a client, you know, they're not confident and all that sort of stuff. My clients don't pass go unless they're confident. So there's a reason and it's just because I've been doing this such a long time and I see it so so we've got a client and we've got a package So the one that sold to in within 48 hours, like we could have gone with a $5,000 offer, because that's typically where I start my clients. And she's like, oh, yeah, it's definitely worth 5000. I'm like, I'm not convinced that you're convinced. And I said, How do you feel about just selling the first two for two and a half and just get some sales in? And then we can put the price up? She was like, yep. So she went and sold it. Like, it was like nothing, right? And so sometimes I want to manipulate it so that if they feel like 5000, like, I can do it, I can do it. Yes, I believe it. But it's like, I know, they're gonna have to labor emotionally, and do you know, get themselves riled up to be able to go and do that price? Whereas when I create a $5,000 package, and they're all in with the $5,000? And I say, how about we knock a couple of 1000 off, and you just get some quick sales? They're like, Oh, yeah, I can do that. Because it's not the price. It's the, it's the confidence around the deliverability. And sometimes, if this is the first time you've sold this package, you're going to be telling yourself things like, what if I can't get a result, and I always say to my clients, well, I can put that fear to bed right away, because there are going to be clients that don't get results. That's just the industry we're in. So you're gonna have people who don't get results. So we're gonna stop worrying about that. As long as you can put your hand on your heart and know that you did everything that you could to provide the right framework and to provide the right support to get people help you, you can charge that price, and you can make that offer. So yeah, well, we're sorry, what was your   26:37 question? Yeah, that was that was the question. You're talking about mindset? And, and what do you do? If you you're Yeah, you know, you don't want to charge or your Oh, so hesitant?   26:52 Yeah. So I guess it's a combination of mindset work, and practical work, right. So sometimes it is more mindset, where it's just like, you know, I feel really, you know, I feel a bit like awkward about reaching out or during discovery calls and like, well, let's not do on like that. Like, I can make use journal and like, you know, try to get your head right for the next week over this, or we just change it so that you feel good about it. And so they might say, oh, yeah, okay, well, I don't want to do this. And I'm like, Okay, well, how else can we do it? And so oftentimes, the resistance, I think this is really important. The resistance and the mindset work. If you're having to do the mindset work, here it is, if you have to do the mindset work, something's not right. It means you're not confident on some level, you don't feel confident in the sales process, you don't feel confident in your offer, you don't feel confident in your messaging. So figure it out. Because 100% confidence will tell you that you've got you're on the right track. And don't be okay with 70%. You know, do the work to get clarity on your offer and to feel really good about it.   28:03 Yeah, excellent advice. And here's another question, when do you raise your price? Right? So I'd say okay, I'm really confident, I've got an offer at $2,500. And I had this offer up for six months, people are purchasing it. When do you say okay, I think it's time let's raise it to 35, or four or five, whatever it may be.   28:28 Yeah. And so, with regards to my client that I said, let's just go sell a couple, like, the next one will be maybe three and a half, maybe four and a half before we get her up to five, unless she's fully ready. So for me, that's part of my strategy, and she's just going to run with it. But if it was, like me, personally, so back when I was charging 5000 US a month and selling the 5k formula, when people were selling two, three, and for these packages, it's like, I feel like I'm being ripped off charging people $5,000 When they're making this, and then they're gonna continue to make it, you know, they're gonna 20 $30,000 months. It's like, that doesn't feel like enough. So I put my price up to seven and a half. And yeah, and then so my client recently that sold that $85,000 package, I'm looking at my $10,000 a month fee, and I'm thinking it's about time to put it up. So, yeah, I want to get a handful of like, super, super, super high end, ridiculous results, because then that's the same philosophy. I apply to my clients. I want to feel confident, it's like, I know, I'm gonna give them 100 grand, I know they're gonna get 100 grand back in the first couple of months of working with me, so I feel okay about charging 20,000 a month. Yeah,   29:46 got it. Got it. So it's sort of based on what results are you getting for your clients and your How comfortable are you moving to the next level? Yeah, for math. So yeah, yeah, got it. And now over the past two years, obviously we are we have lived through the COVID 19. pandemic, we are still in it in most parts of the world. I don't know where Australia is at the moment, but here in the United States, we are still in the thick of it for sure. So how do you think that COVID has changed the online? Offer space? Right? Because you had a lot of people moving online.   30:32 Yeah, it was incredible. It was like the early days of the Internet was amazing. So you know, I, I've had a lot of people following me for many, many years and had a lot of people that were not reliant on online, who suddenly had to be like this whole online thing you've been talking about, you know, can we have a conversation, so my business definitely picked up, it was easier to sell anything. There are just a lot more people online. And it was easier for me to, or it was easy for me to attract more clients and feel more programs and things like that. But it was equally as easy for my clients were doing new launches, you know, they weren't launching themselves for the first time, because they had eyes on them. It seems it's settled back down to not quite pre COVID. There's still a lot more people online and a lot more people wanting to move their businesses online, or be, you know, all online now and things like that. But definitely it created, it created a massive boom. And the other thing was, you know, the ads were a lot cheaper. The traffic was a lot cheaper, too, because people just stopped. So yeah, it was it was a great time, business wise, for sure.   31:46 And we sort of touched upon this earlier in the interview. But do you think because of that things have gotten overly saturated?   31:55 I don't believe in saturation, I really don't. And I look at the amount of people that move into coaching every year. I don't know what the numbers are. But there's hundreds and hundreds of 1000s of people that are coming into the coaching space. Many, many, many, and you know, there are going to be a lot of coaches out there who fail are going to be a lot of them, you know, but they're going to try and they're going to be needing services. And they're going to need coaching and mentoring and things like that. But yeah, I just don't, but I don't believe in saturation for the reasons that I spoke about before. Like, I'm a business, essentially, I'm a business coach, Online Business Coach, but there's not a lot of people that can compare to the way that I do things. Because there's only one me and people will you know, there are business coaches out there who are focused on lots of different things, right. So there would be business coach, as you spoke about earlier, yes, you've got a business coach is going to send you out there to do market research, and all of those sorts sorts of things. And there are going to be clients who are very attracted to that, because they want that information. And that data to make decisions on my people are not those people. My people are very, they feel their way into decisions. You know, they trust their instincts and things like that. And so those people are never going to be attracted to me in the way that I do things that would freak them out. So yeah, it's, there's always going to be people for your market. So rather than thinking of saturation, think about okay, I own a corner of the internet. This is my show, how do I show up on my corner of the internet, with my people on the internet in a way that helps them to pull the trigger on reaching out on whatever it is like, show up, share your message be consistent about the message. I just had to kick a client's but this morning because I'm like, Who are you? And what are you doing? Like two weeks ago, we were this? Like, we need to get back to you know, focusing on this, this? And so give things time. So work out what do you want to be an if you want to be an influential leader in a space, what is your space? What is the message? What are the things that you're saying? Who are your people get clear about all that and show up for those people? And they will come?   34:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Perfect. And you know, we do the same thing in physical therapy. Right? And we kind of use a lot now in physical therapy. People are niching down. So you're, you know, you work specifically in sports or pediatrics or pelvic health and people come?   34:41 Yes. Yeah. I've had three hip surgeries. I'm not going to anybody who doesn't specialize in hip rehab, just aren't doing.   34:49 Sure. Yeah, absolutely. Now, before we begin to wrap things up, is there anything we missed any points that you want the listeners to to to drill into their brains when it comes to crafting and selling these high ticket offers.   35:08 Yeah, I think the first thing that the timing I think is the thing. So if we talk about the steps, the first thing that you want to do is get clear on like, what is your zone of genius? What is your skill set that we can monetize. Then, from there, create a package that you feel excited about, you feel like it's well priced, you've made your big promise, like spend the time developing the offer concept, until you feel really good about it, and then start talking about it. So don't be showing up on social media and all over the place, sharing a wishy washy washy message with no call to action, and people don't really know what you do. Be clear about, okay, I am the face of this, this is who I am, this is the space that I'm leading now and show up there, then you can talk talking about your offer is very, very easy. So you know, right now I've got a pricing and packaging challenge that's going to come up in a few weeks. And so all I'm going to be talking about is how important pricing and packaging is. You know, that's all I'm going to be talking about. So if you're a social media coach, and you specialize in tick tock, don't talk about other things. If you're an E commerce coach, and you only work on Shopify, don't be talking about other things become the Shopify specialists, be the specialist in the space and keep your messaging narrow, so that people know Oh, that's that person that does that. And 100 people in your space might not need you, but one will. And if you're a high ticket coach, you don't need very many clients to make a lot of money. So forget about having hundreds of 1000s of followers, focus on you know, the 10 that you've got, because your your first client is going to be there. And then build from there.   36:52 And love it. So get clear on your zone of genius. Create the package, talk about it all the time. Don't be afraid. And really focus on the audience that you have. Yes. Perfect. All right. Well, that's great. So listen, where can people find you? What do you have coming up? You just mentioned a pricing and packaging challenge. So please tell us all about it and when it starts, and how can people find   37:20 you? Sure. So you can find me on Instagram. So I met my name, Michelle hEXt. My website is Michelle headstock calm. And the challenge is it's your 5k, offering five days, create your signature high ticket offer in less than a week. And it starts on the 21st of July. It's going to be it's $97. So it's just a taster program. And over five days, I'm going to be helping people to unpack all of those different bits and pieces so that by the end, even on day five, I talk about building out your digital assets and things like that, like how to sell it how to onboard. So we're going to start with broadly what is your sweet spot uncovering that, we're going to be covering things like building out your offer framework. So the six, the success pathway your clients will take, we do this first, then we do this, then we do this. I'm going to be talking about copywriting and sales page concepts. And so it's very practical. We're going to start from, like the mind set stuff. And then we're going to work all our way down to being really free. Yes, which is Get ready to make that first sale. And we'll do that over five days, and I can't wait to launch it.   38:34 Sounds amazing. And I think I may take you up on that. That challenge. So again, that starts on the first of July. And we'll have links Sorry, sorry, 21st 21st of July. And again, we'll have links to all of it in the show notes over at podcast at healthy, wealthy smart.com. So if you didn't write it all down, just go to the website, and it will have everything on there. Now, last question, it's a question I asked everyone knowing where you are now in your life and in your career, what advice would you give to your younger self?   39:08 I would have focused on one thing instead of 27. Like figured out like what is my one thing, and then I would have taken it all the way because when I did that, that's when everything turned around for me when I was trying to juggle too many things. And I had 75 Facebook pages and 75 accompanying Facebook groups and you know, all that sort of stuff. I was very busy and I was making money but I was exhausted and I wasn't a specialist in anything. So figure out you know, become a specialist and focus on the one thing, take it all the way nothing bad will ever come from that because when I did that with the honourable martial arts entrepreneur, I had my first $30,000 a day it was a it was a massive jump up from what I'd been doing. And then when I went to do it next time with another brand I had called The Art of kicking us elegantly. It was faster, you know, because they'd already done it. And I'd learn. So focusing on one thing is, what is my offer? How am I going to sell it? What is the marketing? What is the lead magnet? You know, I just built that system and took it as far as I could take it until it was time to pivot. And then I knew how to do it. Just change the branding and things like that. So yeah, focus on one thing, take it all the way, don't quit, just keep going. Because you know that that image we see where the the man's like got the Pekinese in the cave and they miss it by just an inch. You never know how close you are. So my rule of thumb is give it your full commitment for 12 months. And don't waver, just figure it out. If you love your offer, and it's not selling, figure out why it's not selling, if it's selling, but it's not selling enough thinking, Okay, how do I get more people to buy it, be thinking about how you can make this bigger, better, stronger and more successful? Not this isn't working, I need to try something else. Like be committed, if you know the offer is solid. And you know, you're good at what you do. Stick with it until you get where you want it to be. Because it is just a matter of time.   41:07 I think that is great advice. And I think another takeaway for me, as you were saying all that it's okay to pivot your offer. It's okay to have a different offer. And once you've got the framework in place, it's a little plug and play, right. But it's like you don't have to go to the grave with just one offer.   41:25 No, no, no, no. But you've got to make you've got to know how to make that one offer work. And we've got to know how to make that one offer work and be profitable before we start to scale it or bring other products on board. Yeah,   41:40 yeah. Yeah. What great advice. Well, Michelle, thank you so much. This was great. There, I took so many notes so much so much for the audience to dig there. dig their heels into here and and really, hopefully start to make a change. Because I know a lot of people that listen to this podcast are in this world of trying to figure out how to make their mark in the digital world. And, but but not only that, really find a, an offer that's unique to them that can help others. And that's where I think a lot of people that listen like they just you just want to help other people succeed.   42:19 Yeah, and it's creating that win win, you know, so you're winning, you're signing clients, and they're winning because they're getting the result that they need. For sure.   42:28 Exactly. So going in with a win win attitude is everything. And so with that being said, thank you so much for joining me today, and I'm excited for your pricing and packaging challenge. So thank you so much for sharing that.   42:45 You are very welcome. Thank you so much for having me.   42:47 And everyone. Thanks so much for listening, have a great couple of days and stay healthy, wealthy and smart.

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