Podcast appearances and mentions of george kavassilas

Sarah Breskman Cosme has worked with over a thousand clients using Quantum Healing Hypnosis Therapy (QHHT) to help them in healing various illnesses and diseases by recalling past lives. She has found that many clients brought under hypnosis recall having had contact with, or living as, extraterrestrials in their past lives. These extraterrestrials range from human-looking to non-human looking Grays or Reptilians.According to Breskman, the Grays she has communicated with through the Higher Self of clients are highly evolved beings, which she describes as “Ascended Grays”. She says these are very different from Grays' performing abductions involving genetic experiments and hybridization programs. Breskman says that she has not yet encountered the negative Grays performing these abductions in her QHHT sessions, as her sessions always begin by connecting with a person's higher self, which precludes contact with negative beings involved in deception and manipulation. Breskman says she does not support the agenda of negative Grays.Breskman also answered questions about human-looking extraterrestrials involved in helping our planet achieve a Star Trek Future, in which humanity is obliged to participate in galactic conflicts. The dilemma posed in such collaboration with human-looking extraterrestrials will be discussed in a June 28 webinar hosted by Dr. Michael Salla featuring Sarah Breskman and George Kavassilas as panelists. The webinar is titled Dilemma of a Star Trek Future and Challenge to Human Sovereignty. More info at: https://www.crowdcast.io/c/dilemmastartrekfutureSarah Breskman Cosme's website is:  theholistichypnotist.com

TopicsElon Musk plans the first starship missions to Mars by 2026, followed by manned missions in 2029/2031Paul Wallis brings up important facts about horticulture and the contribution of the Anunnaki in developing this science for feeding large ancient civilizations after devastating cataclysms.Collective humanity is in the midst of a metamorphosis and struggling to understand what's happening.Surprised to hear that the US military lacks the capacity to track, identify and/or take down low altitude drones flying over bases.JP Witnesses to TR-3B at Eglin AFB and Coming Forward - Update 44Today is the release of the remaining JFK Assassination files.Fascinating article on how humans have developed psychic abilities such as mind reading but the brain largely turns this ability off for most of the population.I have mixed feelings about the role Major Donald Keyhoe played in the development of UFOlogy in the 1950s.Exciting new discoveries of what lies beneath the Giza plateau and how these support claims that the pyramids were used as power plants, weapons platforms, energy conductors, etc.Q & A with Dr. Michael Salla, George Kavassilas, Alex Collier & JPUAP whistleblower David Grusch officially approved for position at congressman @RepEricBurlison's office.Dilemma of a Star Trek Future Webinar - April 5, 2025Index00:00:0001:18:03 Intro02:05:03 Elon Musk03:21:19 Paul Wallis05:07:12 metamorphosis07:18:10 US military lacks10:46:17 JP Witnesses12:47:14 JFK files16:51:17 psychic abilities19:43:11 Donald Keyhoe23:48:10 Giza plateau25:51:27 Q & A26:37:14 David Grusch28:04:22 Dilemma of a Star Trek FutureWebsite: https://exopoliticstoday.comPatreon: https://patreon.com/MichaelSalla

Recorded live on September 19, 2024 The Return of the Jedi Admirals is an inspiring and revealing disclosure of behind the scenes unfoldments far above the horizon of earthly games of control and oppression. Presented here is the Q & A session that followed the Live webinar. The Entire webinar is available on Vimeo at: https://vimeo.com/ondemand/returnofjediadmiralsTopics include the Navy Jedi Admirals return, Saving the children and MedBedsIndex00:00:0000:32:09 Q104:10:03 Q211:31:20 Q329:31:16 Q431:18:17 Q537:51:09 Q642:16:00 The Wrap upWatch the entire Webinar on Vimeo at: https://vimeo.com/ondemand/returnofjediadmirals

Tonight on Veritas, we venture into the unseen realms of existence to confront the profound mysteries of humanity's place in the cosmos. Our guest has dedicated his life to exploring the depths of interdimensional contact, extraterrestrial phenomena, and the forces shaping human consciousness. His mission is to help us understand the systems designed to obscure our true nature and keep us from the path of spiritual awakening. George Kavassilas has a unique perspective forged through personal encounters with beings from beyond our dimension. He brings insights into the three levels of imposition on humanity: the geo-political, exo-political, and cosmo-political frameworks that have influenced our evolution and attempted to shape our destiny. After nearly eight years, George returns to Veritas with profound revelations, urging us to break free from structures that restrict our awareness and reclaim the light that exists within every one of us. His knowledge challenges us to see through layers of deception, reconnect with the essence of what it means to be human, and remember our infinite and eternal nature. What is Homo-Luminous, the full expression of humanity's potential? How do we move beyond systems of control to rediscover the deeper truths of existence? And what role does each of us play in reshaping the future of our consciousness? Prepare to step into a conversation that may forever alter the way you perceive the world around you - and within you. PERSONAL NOTE: Also, I want to share something deeply personal—a song I wrote, born from one of the most profound moments of my life. Thirty years ago, I lost my father, and not a day goes by that I don't think about the words I never said. Life moves quickly, and we often take for granted the chance to express what's in our hearts. For me, that chance slipped away. The song, 'Goodbye Through the Endless Blue,' (at the end of the first segment) reflects my journey—both on a plane and within myself. This song is for my dad, but it's also for anyone who knows the pain of unspoken farewells. It's a reminder to speak your heart while you can. So, I invite you to listen deeply, and never let the chance to say goodbye slip away.

20 years ago, George Kavassilas received a diplomatic letter from a Reptilian called Draco Zon who lives in the Inner Earth and is indigenous to our planet. In his letter, which has never been publicly released before, Draco Zon discusses humanity's incredible potential as a species and its limitations due to blind religious belief systems and hypocrisy. Draco Zon's comments on the Holy Grail, God, Lucifer, Satan, and Pataal give a Reptilian perspective on life and death, and how to live a life of integrity and authenticity in rapidly changing times. George Kavassilas' diplomatic letter is sure to shock individuals with a conventional religious belief system predicated on a human-looking God or gods that created humanity, Earth, and all creation. As might be expected, Reptilians indigenous to Earth have a very different perspective on the supernatural force behind creation and the alleged God/gods that created humanity. Caution is advised in listening to this interview. This is Part Two of a two-part interview series recorded on Jan 8, 2025. George Kavassilas website is https://www.ourjourneyhome.earth/

George Kavassilas is an extraterrestrial contactee and secret space program participant who explains the four different kinds of craft that make up the mystery drone phenomenon appearing worldwide. He describes the first category as spacecraft belonging to multiple extraterrestrial civilizations. The second category is exotic craft belonging to corporate-run programs using reverse-engineered extraterrestrial technologies. The third category is advanced drones used by Earth militaries, while the fourth category is commercial drones used by the general public. Most startling is Kavassila's revelation that Donald Trump is working with the Galactic Federation of Worlds to build and release advanced technologies that the Deep State has suppressed for decades. Trump will be allowed to make the US the manufacturing hub for exotic technologies that will usher in a galactic age for global humanity and likely lead to him becoming the Earth's first President. This is Part One of a two-part interview series recorded on Jan 8, 2024. George Kavassilas website is https://www.ourjourneyhome.earth/

STEUN/SPONSOR DUTCH MATRIX : https://www.matrixboek.nl/doneren/ BOEKEN EN KLEDING : https://www.matrixshop.nl/*Podcast Omschrijving:* In deze aflevering duiken we dieper in het geheime ruimteprogramma, met bijzondere inzichten van insider George Kavassalis. Zijn ervaringen werpen nieuw licht op de connecties tussen geheime regeringsprojecten en buitenaardse technologieën. We bespreken controversiële onderwerpen zoals de maanlandingen, Solar Warden, en de Dark Fleet. Is het geheim ruimteprogramma echt? En welke rol spelen galactische federaties en interplanetaire machten in deze verborgen geschiedenis? Mis deze spannende aflevering niet waarin feiten en fictie samensmelten! Kijk nu en laat je verrassen door de onthullingen! BRONNEN: DAVE GRUSH VIDEO:    • 'Non-human biologics' recovered by US...   MINISTER VAN ISRAEL VIDEO :    • Israel's Former Space Security Chief ...   GERORGE KAVASSILAS VIDEO :    • Return of the US Navy SSP's Jedi Admi...  

In 1987, six months before graduating from the US Air Force Academy, Timothy Cohen had a profound spiritual experience directing him to study biblical scripture and prophesy, and resigning from his future career. A decade later, in 1998, Cohen authored his first book, The Antichrist and a Cup of Tea in which he made the remarkable claim that biblical prophesy and a series of monarchical events in England pointed to Prince Charles being groomed to play a critical role in the formation of a New World Order. According to Cohen, ever since Charles investiture as the Prince of Wales in 1969, he has been groomed to be the savior of the world in several New World Order-related events staged by global organizations and secret societies. Cohen describes the unique heraldry designed for Prince Charles that symbolically represents the number 666, and how this number pointed to Charles being/becoming the future Antichrist, who is depicted to be the forerunner to the prophesied second coming of Jesus the Christ. In his first Exopolitics Today interview, Cohen describes his remarkable claims and how these relate to the cover-up of extraterrestrial life and ancient civilizations through Prince/King Charles historical leadership position over secret societies, including Freemasons, who play a dominant role in determining what secrets are to be disclosed to the world. Also discussed are several important synchronicities with the newly appointed King Charles (September 8, 2022) and his coronation on May 6, 2023, that support Cohen's claims.  One of these synchronicities is that the time between the burial of Queen Elizabeth II on September 19, 2022, and Charles's coronation was exactly 6 months, 6 weeks, and 6 days. The 666 symbolism, according to Cohen, is how the Cabal/Illuminati openly signal their identity and agenda in cryptic ways, thereby complying with cosmic law. Another synchronicity was King Charles unveiling of his official portrait that several analysts pointed out contained symbolic representations of the demon Baphomet performing a blood sacrifice. Yet another synchronicity includes JP, a US Army Insider, claiming that in October 2022, the seeds from a Tree of Life and unknown plants gifted to humanity from an underground Ant Civilization in Florida were immediately taken to England under the orders of King Charles. This strange incident confirms that the British Monarch has extraordinary power in  directing covert operations conducted by US special forces, as claimed by Cohen. Also, a team of remote viewers led by Dick Allgire found that a second coronation ceremony involved the real transfer of occult power to Charles, which involved blood sacrifice. Ritual blood sacrifices have been claimed to be a key component in invoking dark spirits, ET entities, and demonic possession. Furthermore, an Australian contactee, George Kavassilas, claimed that he learned in 2024 that a very powerful dark demonic force had taken over the body of King Charles, and this ‘spirit possession' had opened the door to the intervention of highly evolved extraterrestrials called the Universal Space Council in human affairs. Finally, Cohen responds to the attempted assassination and re-election of President Donald Trump, and how this relates to King Charles, the Antichrist, and Biblical Prophesy. Timothy Cohen's website is: https://www.prophecyhouse.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/exopoliticstoday/support

George Kavassilas claims that he has been contacted by a highly advanced extraterrestrial organization called the “Universal Space Council” that was instrumental in the spiritual and technological transformation of a fleet of three US Navy Secret Space Program vessels that departed in the 1990s for interstellar exploration. During their nearly three-decades-long mission, the Navy SSP craft and the three admirals met many extraterrestrial civilizations. Due to their highly ethical approach, they met like-minded groups who introduced the Navy commanders to advanced technologies and philosophies. After meeting the Universal Space Council, which is connected to Galactic and Intergalactic Intelligences, the Navy SSP fleet underwent a radical ethical and spiritual transformation. The admirals and their staffs became Jedi-like spiritual warriors. After decades of exploration, technological development, and spiritual transformation, the Jedi Admirals have returned to our solar system and are accompanied by the Universal Space Council. The Jedi Admirals are now interacting with the rest of the US Navy's SSP (aka Solar Warden) and with global military and government authorities. Finally, Kavassails received notification that he would soon be returned to active duty with the Navy SSP and would work directly with the Jedi Admirals and the USC to bring out full disclosure on Earth.  George Kavassilas website is https://www.ourjourneyhome.earth/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/exopoliticstoday/support

Exopolitics Today Week in Review with Dr Michael Salla – Sept 28, 2024 Topics 00:00 - Highlights 01:08 - Introduction 01:50 - Chapter 1 US Army Insider Missions 3 made it to #1 New Release 02:28 - Chapter 2 Navigating the Scylla and Charybdis of Full ET Disclosure –Jelaila Starr Interview 03:41 - Chapter 2 SpaceX plans to launch about five uncrewed Starships to Mars in two years. 05:50 - Chapter 4 President Donald Trump says he met with four USAF pilots who had seen flying saucer craft that traveled 4 times faster than F-22s 07:09 - Chapter 5 Luis Elizondo explains how President Trump's interest in military witnesses of UFOs helped bring about a change in official attitudes 08:33 - Chapter 6 Astronomers from the James Webb Space Telescope who, "say they have stumbled onto possible signs of life coming from a massive Earth-like exoplanet, 11:53 - Chapter 7 The UAP Disclosure Act failed to be included in the Senate version of the 2025 National Defense Authorization Act. 13:45 - Chapter 8 George Kavassilas shares a fascinating update on the return of an enlightened group of US Navy officers 15:37 - Chapter 9 lluminati Manipulates Humanity by Advanced Psychic Abilities & Tablets of Destiny 17:22 - Chapter 10 Scientific American analysis of the UFO problem is methodologically short sighted. 20:03 - Chapter 11 Representative Nancy Mace says the next UFO hearing is scheduled for November 13th. 22:00 - Chapter 12 Conclusion Twitter Feed: https://twitter.com/michaelsalla --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/exopoliticstoday/support

In 2006, George Kavassilas was taken to the Moon by a negative extraterrestrial faction and was able to break free of the many technologies used by them to control him and confront their leader, a powerful Draconian Reptilian. He was able to defeat the Draconian by connecting with his core soul essence and awakening him to his true history through many lives.  Kavassilas explains how this incident sent shock waves through the Draconian Empire as it was realized that awakened humans have an innate spiritual power that transcends the control technologies used by them. In his latest Exopolitics Today interview, Kavassilas describes Jesus of Nazareth as a composite being and how religion creates false gods that siphon away the Christ consciousness energy of the millions of followers that worship them. He also explains how these false gods are returning through a staged second coming involving Jesus. Kavassilas also describes how King Charles III was taken over by a very dark entity at the end of July 2024 who will use him to stage the last stand of the global cabal through scripted events described in the Book of Revelations and the appearance of an Antichrist. George Kavassilas is an extraterrestrial contactee who also has been abducted by US and Australian government agencies wanting to learn about his experiences. He learned about the pyramid hierarchy controlling our planet and how different ET races perpetuate these hierarchies in both direct and indirect ways. He believes that by only following a heart-centric path of universal reconnection will we truly be free of the many control hierarchies asserting themselves over humanity. Kavassilas asserts that while there are both positive and negative extraterrestrial organizations, they all to varying degrees ultimately promote an imperial project. This has led to him focusing his energies on helping individuals integrate the fractal nature of their heart soul essence.  Nevertheless, he believes that individuals can benefit from positive extraterrestrial organizations, as he did, and encourages individuals to be open to all possibilities as we enter tumultuous End Times. George Kavassilas website is https://www.ourjourneyhome.earth/ --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/exopoliticstoday/support

In 2003, George Kavassilas had a life-changing experience with a group of extraterrestrials from Sirius, Arcturus, and Lyra star systems, whom he deems his galactic family. He says that after being transported from a Sirian scout ship to a larger mothership with many races on board, he had an out-of-body experience where his consciousness went on a journey where he encountered the fractal nature of all reality. Kavassilas' out of body experience propelled him into a new understanding of one's soul essence as a fractal of a much larger universal consciousness. He believes that the human avatar body is unique insofar as we can experience the full fractal nature of our universe and the more expansive omniverse, while other extraterrestrials can only do so partially. One year later, Kavassilas was abducted by an agency within the Pentagon responsible for tracking individuals who have had extraterrestrial contact or profound physical frequency charges. He says he met with former US President George H.W. Bush, and was tortured and experienced mind wipes. After his 2003 experience he accepted an ambassadorial position with what he called the Galactic Confederation of Light for a couple of years, but has since stopped working directly with any extraterrestrial organization. Kavassilas asserts that while there are both positive and negative extraterrestrial organizations, they all to varying degrees ultimately promote an imperial project. This has led to him focusing his energies on helping individuals integrate the fractal nature of their heart soul essence with the universe.  Nevertheless, he believes that individuals can benefit from positive extraterrestrial organizations, as he did, and encourages individuals to be open to all possibilities as we enter tumultuous End Times. George Kavassilas website is https://www.ourjourneyhome.earth/ --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/exopoliticstoday/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/exopoliticstoday/support

George Kavassilas experienced his first extraterrestrial contact experience when only 7 years old. The trauma he suffered from Gray aliens and experiences in the subsequent years with different Gray humanoids left a profound mark on him. In 2003, he had a radically different kind of contact with what he described as his extraterrestrial family that was very benevolent. The experience was incredibly uplifting and transformative, and led to him accepting a position as an Ambassador for one of the Galactic organizations interacting with humanity. He subsequently, met with prominent political leaders in the US and Australia interested in meeting and communicating with the positive extraterrestrials. In this Exopolitics Today interview, Kavassilas explains how he came to understand three levels of imposition on humanity by extraterrestrials and their human minions during his contact experiences. He discusses these different levels and how humanity is better served following another path to the hierarchical systems disseminated by different extraterrestrial organizations, both benevolent and malevolent. Kavassilas emphasizes the benefits of understanding the fractal nature of the universe and how an individual soul is capable of integrating with the Omniverse is a way that is unique to humanity. He distinguishes the path of Integration, which he calls “the journey home” with the path of Ascension, which he believes to be yet another hierarchical system promoted by those wishing to establish a new cosmic religion with some extraterrestrials posing as gods. Kavassilas' views on the soul, ascension, the chakra system, and the journey home are both provocative and essential to understanding the big exopolitical picture confronting humanity. George Kavassilas website is: https://www.ourjourneyhome.earth/ --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/exopoliticstoday/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/exopoliticstoday/support

We kick off this new season of Super Woo Radio for 2023 - with Norman Vilches. Norman is incredibly creative and passionate about life and not only deeply knowledgeable of the inner workings of music but also all things humanitarian. Join us for this adventure into life as we journey into the uniquely different school of hard knocks through to the cultivation of wisdom and the future new world and system. George Kavassilas - www.ourjourneyhome.earth Here's a snapshot of some areas of the conversation Norman and I cover in this episode as we delve into what is going on in our world today with this evolutionary leap into humanity.  This knowing of this un-foldment into the humanitarian world; the celebration of our humanity and moving away from a cabal corporate driven infrastructure into this humanitarian world of building and creating the new : + back to the roots of Norman and key moments that triggered a spiritual awakening and turning point in Norman's journey at age 12 + returning to his birth country Chile after studying music in Brazil + the control of the arts by the government and the military regime in Chile + returning to Brazil to follow his passion and the extra-ordinary experiences + Australian Indigenous music + transitioned to pursue creating resources to seeking funding for his own projects + the beginning of a very eclectic group that made connections with shamanic worlds + creation of different experiences with performances + new project opportunities into the financial world 2005-2011 in Europe with a possibly historic energy project in Greece + the corruption of the monetary system and beyond + Gold + humanitarian projects for the new world - why? + harmonising of the evolutionary process + quantum financial system - the reality + no more lack and transformation of society + permission to "DREAM BIG" And so, so much more… Special Guest: Norman Vilches Recorded: April 2023Running Time: 1hr 36minsLanguage: English I trust you will enjoy this episode of  Super Woo Radio, and please share with your friends and family who you think will also appreciate and benefit from hearing this information.  I no longer rely on social media channels, as I chose to no longer engage those eco-systems a few years ago now, so your shares truly mean a lot to me and my work. Heartfelt thanks & gratitude. In Love Liberation and Fortitude, George Kavassilas - www.ourjourneyhome.earth Super Woo Radio is also on Spotify, Soundcloud, Apple Podcasts

In this magnificent episode of Super Woo Radio, George Kavassilas shares a conversation with a soul brother who shares the mutual deep love and caring for humanity. Hear more about "Earth Heroes TV - Conscious media for change-makers" - a very interesting project! Here's a snapshot of just a few of the things Shay and I cover in this episode: + Project - Earth Heroes TV is an independent conscious media, non main-stream platform - introduction + Shay's documentary on corporate corruption + Quick growth of Earth Heroes TV + Focus on grounded earthly creators + Media dynamics and conflict of interest + Censorship on many levels + Shays' connection with Dr Bruce Lipton and + Corporate control of media and the narrative + Direction of Earth Heroes TV - human attention & focus + Truth of history + Fear driven platforms and...... so much more. Special Guest: Shay Ryan Douglas Recorded: September 2022 Running Time: 1hr 32mins Language: English SHAY RYAN DOUGLAS is the Creative Director of Earth Heroes TV. www.earthheroestv.com A bit about Shay : "After personal breakthrough in his life through physical pain, he was guided towards yoga, meditation and plant medicines to liberate his life. Shay began watching inspiring documentaries, videos and educational information that shifted his story from “I'm a victim of my past to I am a creator of my destiny”. To quote Shay, “as human beings, we are all hard wired for stories”

It is Friday July 22, 2022 and after offering The Launch of GPS Astrology Magazine & How The Great Bear Began, we now present Kristi Walsh Interviews Astrologer Mark Lerner on The Power of the Moon. This new podcast comes from a live interview conducted on Thursday July 21, 2022 by Kristi Walsh who hosts Surfing the Psychic Waves on her SoundCloud channel. The title for this show – Surfing the Moon Waves – allowed us to explore the topic of the Moon's deeply-sensitive potency – astrologically, astronomically and psychically. A major part of the discussion concerns the need to learn how to better blend and connect our Lunar personalities, feelings, moods, memories and past-lifetimes with our Solar zodiacal characteristics, life-force and light, in order to fulfill our Higher Destiny shown within each of our natal horoscopes. Overall, this is the 100th podcast offered to the public since May 2019. Astrology charts or images for this podcast are available on our website, www.greatbearenterprises.com/radio.Kristi Walsh is the host of Surfing the Psychic Waves on InFlowRadio.com, Soundcloud and iTunes. Kristi talks to surfers, psychics and metaphysicians to share their tales of the surf and to discover new ways to handle these cosmic waves. Kristi Walsh is a trance medium healer and clairvoyant psychic whose journey began with the usual monsters in closets, which led to a coloring book that had a section about ESP and other phenomenon, talking to her Great Aunt telepathically (7rs old), then the usual talking to different beings, planets, and finally she harnessed her seeing and healing abilities with classes from the Berkeley Psychic Institute starting in college, later classes at Arthur Findlay College in the UK, and many other trainings. Surfing the Psychic Waves can lead you into discussions with metaphysical surfers such as Lindy Cowling, James Tyberonn, Michael Tamura, George Kavassilas, Blossom Goodchild, Venus Andrecht, Lia Scallon and many others. See you in the Surf!Support the show

In a very open and sovereign exchange on Super Woo radio, Tahnee sits in the guest seat and journeys deep into earthly, Daoist, yogic, and supernatural spaces with George Kavassilas. This episode is one of a kind, revealing the expanse of Tahnee's depth in all her nuanced layers; intellectual, spiritual, creative, vulnerable, masculine, and feminine (to name a few). Seated unwavering in the unified field of love, host of Super Woo radio, George Kavassilas, holds an impeccable space for this expansive conversation that explores the depths of our existence into other dimensions and beyond. Starting with a glimpse into her love story with her husband Mason, this episode weaves in and out of Tahnee's life journey, her value system, and the tenets of yogic and Daoist teachings that have informed her awareness along the way. Tahnee talks openly about the grief and bliss she has experienced in her life and discusses the importance of honesty, courage, self-responsibility, and sovereignty in any healthy relationship, business or personal. George and Tahnee discuss energy centres, chakra systems, other dimensions of space and time, and current events that call upon us to be clear on our value systems as we move towards an ominous technological future; that thrives on hive mind mentality. Tahnee's willingness to be equally real and vulnerable on all things discussed in this episode reminds us of the power our voices have when we operate from a place of integrity and speak from a place of authenticity.     "But it's this idea of, complete self-mastery isn't, 'I can hold my breath for 15 minutes. Or, I can stop my heart'... Or whatever it is. Those are all interesting things to play with. But can you actually master yourself? Can you master the singularity? And can you actually be in control"?    - Tahnee Taylor     Tahnee and George discuss: -Pain. -Trust. -Projection.  -Vulnerability. -Co-creation. -Relationships. -Value systems. -Natural yoga. -Plant medicine. -Shinto Buddhism. -Tantric Buddhism. -The chakra system. -Living authentically. -How to sit in discomfort.  -Honesty in all relationships. -Tahnee's embodiments of Yoga. -Boundary setting in relationships. -Connection in an age of disconnect.   Tahnee Taylor Tahnee is a self proclaimed nerd, with a love of the human body, its language and its stories. A cup of tonic tea and a human interaction with Tahnee is a gift! A beautiful Yin Yoga teacher and Chi Ne Tsang practitioner, Tahnee loves going head first into the realms of tradition, yogic philosophy, the organ systems, herbalism and hard-hitting research. Tahnee is the business brains behind SuperFeast, wife to Mason, and devoted mama to Aiya and baby Leo, the newest addition to the Taylor family. George Kavassilas George Kavassilas is an author, mentor, and public speaker. George has had a lifetime of experiences beyond the ordinary, encountering a wide spectrum of expressions of life both Inter-Dimensional and Extra-Terrestrial in nature. As a consequence, he went through a process of reconciling the knowledge and wisdom gained from these experiences and came to realise a natural responsibility to share what he has learned with our global community. George now embodies a limitless passion in addressing life's primordial questions: “Who are we? Where do we come from? and What are we doing here?”  George knows his life path includes a focus to expose all levels of deception, no matter how far they go. He carries a deep-seated sense of responsibility to help liberate our Humanity from all forms of imposing doctrine and dogma, without exception - be they Earthly or even Cosmic in nature. As George says, “It's really a remembering process to revitalise and resurrect the Sovereign and Infinite Being you truly are.” The Extent - The Challenge - The Creative Solution   Resources: Tahnee's website Tahnee instagram George's website To contact George Superwoo Radio (George's Podcast) Our Universal Journey (George's Book)  Transcending The God Matrix with George Kavassilas (EP#119)   Resources mentioned in the podcast: Dr. Hiroshi Motoyama Dr Hiroshi Motoyama books The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali- book Yin Yoga with Anatomist and Yogi Paul Grilley (EP#59)   Check Out The Transcript Here: https://www.superfeast.com.au/blogs/articles/tahnee-ep-159  

An open and intimate conversation between Steve McDonald and George Kavassilas, the host of Super Woo Radio, about life, psychedelic plant medicines, the Graves model of developmental psychology, AI, TI, ETs, interdimensionality, multidimensionality, the emergence of the new human, and more. Recorded on 18 December, 2021, in Agnes Water, Qld, Australia; uploaded on 3 May, 2022.

In today's episode. Mason and George go deep into what is happening in the world right now.   Who is George Kavassilas? George Kavassilas is an author, mentor, and public speaker. George has had a lifetime of experiences beyond the ordinary, encountering a wide spectrum of expressions of life both Inter-Dimensional and Extra-Terrestrial in nature. As a consequence, he went through a process of reconciling the knowledge and wisdom gained from these experiences and came to realise a natural responsibility to share what he has learned with our global community. George now embodies a limitless passion in addressing life's primordial questions: “Who are we? Where do we come from? and What are we doing here?” George knows his life path includes a focus to expose all levels of deception, no matter how far they go. He carries a deep-seated sense of responsibility to help liberate our Humanity from all forms of imposing doctrine and dogma, without exception - be they Earthly or even Cosmic in nature.   Resources: George's website To contact George Superwoo Radio (George's Podcast) Our Universal Journey (George's Book) Transcending The God Matrix with George Kavassilas (EP#119)

We have one of our favourite returning guests on the podcast today, entrepreneur and practicing MD Molly Maloof, who is back this time going straight to the heart of health and happiness; Love, sex, relationships, and the harmonious intersection of medicine and love. One of the many reasons we love the work of Dr. Molly is she's all about maximising potential and better function within the human body. Evolving in her practice and true to form with her ever-innovative mind, Dr. Molly's work has recently taken a more focused move into the space of relationships and how the quality of our close relationships significantly determines our long-term health. Healthy relationships help us cope better and defuse the external stresses of life; So why not focus on improving relationships? Inspired by years of experience and research in psychedelics, the neurobiology of love, and drug-assisted therapy, Dr. Molly is developing a company that aims to improve relationships and strengthen bonds through drug-assisted therapy. A complete paradigm shift in the way we view modern medicine and an upgrade to the human condition and relationships. As always with Mason and Dr. Molly, this episode is energised and thought-provoking. They explore the topics of psychedelic-assisted therapies, sexual dysfunction and the root causes of relationship problems, the history of MDMA and couples therapy, where modern medicine is falling short, and so much more. Tune in for good convo and sovereign health.   "I think technology is where we see these bonds decay. We're seeing people give up their marriages, we're seeing people walk away from long-term relationships, and we're seeing families and children affected. One of the most adverse childhood experiences a kid will have is a divorce. Why are we not looking at these fundamental facets of society and saying, gosh, why can't we do better?" And maybe there's a way we can do better that's ethical, honourable, that's scientifically sound, and will leave people better than we found them".   - Dr. Molly Maloof     Mason and Molly discuss:   Natural Aphrodisiacs. Entactogens (empathogens) The psychedelic movement. Psychedelic assisted therapy. Combatting stress through love. Relationships, community, and happiness. How relationships affect long-term health. Exploring root trauma and healing sexuality. Technology and the decay of relationships. Sexual dysfunction and relationship problems. Dopamine, Norepinephrine, Oxytocin, and Serotonin.   Who is Molly Maloof? Dr. Molly Maloof's goal is to maximise human potential by dramatically extending the human healthspan through medical technology, scientific wellness, and educational media. Her fascination with innovation has transformed her private medical practice, focused on providing health optimisation and personalised medicine to San Francisco & Silicon Valley investors, executives, and entrepreneurs. Molly's iterative programs take the quantified self to the extreme through comprehensive testing of clinical chemistry, metabolomics, microbiome, biometrics, and genomic markers.   CLICK HERE TO LISTEN ON APPLE PODCAST    Resources: Cordyceps Deer Antler Molly's Twitter   Molly's Linkedin  Molly's Website Molly's Facebook Molly's Instagram  Psychedelic News Hour with Dr Molly Maloof Maximising Your Human Potential with Dr. Molly Maloof (EP#47) Spiritual Awakening and Biohacking with Dr. Molly Maloof (EP#108)   Q: How Can I Support The SuperFeast Podcast? A: Tell all your friends and family and share online! We'd also love it if you could subscribe and review this podcast on iTunes. Or  check us out on Stitcher, CastBox, iHeart RADIO:)! Plus  we're on Spotify!   Check Out The Transcript Here:   Mason: (00:03) Molly, how are you?   Molly Maloof: (00:05) I'm alive and well in the middle of a chaotic world. And somehow I feel like one of the more sane people in the room these days.   Mason: (00:14) You're the sane person. It's great because I like the fact that the sane person and one of the sane people on Instagram. I love your Instagram endlessly.   Molly Maloof: (00:23) Thanks.   Mason: (00:23) And I love you're the doctor whose drugs I want to take.   Molly Maloof: (00:28) Yeah, right. Like I kept on asking myself, "What if we made drugs that people wanted to take? What if we made drugs that actually improve the human condition?" What if we made drugs that actually improved resilience and improved our relationships? How come that's not medicine?   Mason: (00:46) Now, let me start with this little light question.   Molly Maloof: (00:48) Yeah.   Mason: (00:49) Where does the intersection of medicine and love begin and integrate?   Molly Maloof: (00:56) Yeah, right? Okay. Here's what occurred to me. And I haven't really even announced my company because I've been stalled, but I can talk about the big picture because I think it's really important. I spent my entire life trying to figure out how and ever since I was a child, and I was like, wanting to become a doctor at a young age, and then hit puberty in all sorts of hormonal disarray. And I was just like, "What is this happening to my body?" I remember thinking, someday I'm going to figure out my whole body, and I'm just going to understand all this weird shit that's happening to me. And so I spent a lot of my life trying and testing out things to see what would they would do. I would take supplements when I was in ninth grade. I was just constantly doing weird stuff to see what I could do to make my body function better.   Molly Maloof: (01:41) And then, left my residency, started my own medical practise, and really was like, "Fuck, I want to make a practise around optimising health, instead of just fixing sickness." So I want to understand health from first principles. So I spent all this time studying and practising . And fortunately, I had patients who would pay me a lot of money to like, be my lab rats. And they were willing, they were coming to me with experiments that they're like, "I want to do this, will you be help me?" And I'm like, "Sure." So I was one of those doctors that was just like, helping executives find greater performance. And then I had a bit of a come to Jesus moment.   Molly Maloof: (02:18) And I was just like, I did not go into medicine to be doctor just to rich people. That's not cool. And this is like been an interesting experiment. But I should probably be doing more with my life than just helping rich people stay healthy. So it really was that. That was really going through my head. I was at Esalen Institute, and I was just like, "Yeah. I'm pretty sure that there should be more to life than this."   Mason: (02:39) It's an elephant a lot of the time in the health sector.   Molly Maloof: (02:42) Yeah. But at the same time, I'm super grateful that I actually was able to do what I did because A, I could show I actually was part of like a massive trend movement, which was like, precision medicine for individuals was like, not a thing until, a few years after I started practising . So I've always been a bit ahead of the curve. But I've always also been one of those people who's just like, I can't settle for like surface level anything. So I have to get under the surface. So I got asked to teach at Stanford, a course. And she was like, "You seem to be this healthspan expert. So why don't you teach about it?" And I was like, well, of course, I got really insecure. And I was like, "Well, I know a lot. But I can't know enough to teach a second best school in the country." So I went and I started researching even deeper and started studying even more and started like coming up with this framework of what health was about.   Molly Maloof: (03:28) And in my process of studying everything, I was creating electron relationships. And I started figuring, I saw a couple TED Talks, and I started looking into the research of these two psychologists and this researcher from Stanford. And basically, the conclusion was that long term health and happiness is literally dependent on your relationships, like the number one factor in whether you're going to live long and healthy or not is your relationships. And why do you think that is? Well, usually they're the biggest source of stress or stress relief. And we know that stress is a huge source of disease, and yet everybody talks about stress, but nobody talks about what to do about it. Even like some of the best most famous doctors in America.   Molly Maloof: (04:11) Well, even doctors are on stress, like sit around talking about how they don't know what to do with stress. So I was like, "I wonder if we could actually create medicine, that improved relationships." And so I started figuring out through the psychedelic movement, that a lot of what entactogens do is they fundamentally reproduce the neurobiology of love. And so I started digging into the neurobiology of love and I was like, oh, so dopamine, norepinephrine, oxytocin, and serotonin are essentially like some of the bigger molecules involved with love and connection as well as hormones. So to me, it was like kind of a lightbulb moment happened when I was like, "Whoa, what if we actually were to create medicine that can reproduce the love that you had early in your relationship when you first got married, when you first started dating?" What would happen if you could actually reintroduce that feeling again, in your relationship, when you've been together for 10 years, and you're already annoyed by each other constantly. And there's all this resentment built up?   Molly Maloof: (05:17) And what if you could work on that resentment, work on your attachment issues, work on your relationship and your bond and strengthen that bond, through drug assisted therapy? And so that's kind of what I came up with as an idea. And so I'm in this process of investigating the possible ways to do this. But really, it's like a complete paradigm shift in modern medicine because A, it's not about individuals taking drugs, it's about two people taking a drug together. And B, it's not about doctors just handing people drugs, but it's drugs plus therapy. Drugs plus a therapeutic journey that you take, in order to achieve a certain outcome. So not only does medicine have to change in a few different ways, like A, we have to like see if the FDA will even let us give two people drugs. But B like, the payment system of medicine is about you go to a therapist, you go to a doctor, you get a drug, and the doctor is paid for that visit. And that psychologist is just paid for that visit.   Molly Maloof: (06:14) So I have friends that are in payments systems, and they're developing like bundled payment programmes because essentially you need to like create an entire outcome based experience that is paid for in a lump sum. And so there's a lot of things that need to change about in medicine. But I think that fundamentally the human bonds that we create, like are the hugest source of survival that we have. And a lot of people have overlooked this in this pandemic. We know now from isolation, that there's nothing healthy about people being by themselves in their homes, especially the elderly. Come on, and young people and children with families in one house, like we're meant to be in community, we're meant to be touching other people, we're meant to be around other people. And I think it's really a shame that we have ignored this factor for so long, and we're continuing to ignore it while people are killing themselves with alcohol and drugs and other substances.   Molly Maloof: (07:07) And it's just like, and even food, right? Like kids are gaining weight at record rates, people are gaining weight at record rates. And it's all because we're not supposed to be alone. We're not supposed to be indoors by ourselves isolated, like it's not productive, and it's the antithesis of health. So that's my shtick in my soapbox description. And I'm just going to say this, this is a really ambitious endeavour, there is a very good chance that it will not work because the government will stop me. That doesn't mean that people shouldn't be doing stuff like this because we actually need to change the way that people think about medicine. We actually need to change how medicine is delivered.   Mason: (07:42) You know what, like what brings up, I've been reading a lot of like management books because I'm at that stage by my business where I was like Peter Pan and I'm back in the real world a little bit where am I growing up and becoming a little bit adulty.   Molly Maloof: (07:56) We're both becoming adults, dude.   Mason: (07:57) We're both adulting the shit out of life right now.   Molly Maloof: (08:01) We're adulting the shit out of life.   Mason: (08:04) The one Tani got like the whole management team to raid was like a Patrick Lencioni one. I don't think that's how you pronounce his name, but he's got business fables, and it's the Five Dysfunctions of a Team and one of the dysfunctions, I can't remember if it's an exact dysfunction or just something I took out of the fable, but it's like you get an executive team and you go through all the different departments like what's our goalposts? Like what are we all agreeing on that we're looking at as like what we're all trying to get? Is it like customer acquisition? Is it customer happiness ratings? Is it revenue? It doesn't matter what the hell it is, we just focus on that and we go for it and then that unifies you. I think most people and including people that get into health and are entrepreneurs in the health same doctors what the thing that happens is they still they can't get over the hangover of getting dumped.   Mason: (08:53) The goalposts been put on you by a pretty old medical system that just like, just keep people alive. Just improve the condition somewhat. And I think why when you speak and when people listening, I know people like loving my team like listening to your last podcast in the community really excited is because the boldness that you have and it's screaming me, you're like, "No, I'm creating my own goalpost, not taking on that one, and I can see the bridge, and I'm going..." Like you actually can bridge it. It's not just, I'm defying you. It's like, "No," I'm just like, I can work with in that and I can see what you're focused on. And I'm very clear about what I'm focusing on. It's like relationship and then measure the markers to see that your relationships have improved and we know it because we have these markers. And that focus is really inspiring. It's really intimidating for people that have just allowed themselves to be handed what the goalpost is. So cheers you, I raise my hot chocolate to you.   Molly Maloof: (10:00) It's like I ask myself, "Okay, I've got this personal brand. If I like go and be Dr. Molly brand, Dr. Molly, how is that going to like..." Okay. So let's say there's Andrew Weil, there's Dr. Oz, there's all these, like leaders in the space. I could do that. And I can always fall back on that if this thing doesn't work, like I'll only be 40 by the time I fail at this, right? So I think I'm going to give myself like solid three years before I give up. Look, it's really hard to do this thing, but I'm going to give myself some significant time and commitment, like five to 10 years, then we'll see what happens. If I can get through past three years, I'll be fucking stoked. So point is, is like I can always fall back on like the Dr. Molly brand because it's like, that's cool. But that's just an evolution, right? That's just like, me becoming branded doctor 2.0. But the thing about this other thing is like, if we actually were to accomplish this, this just fundamentally changes medicine, and also could transform human relationships, which are falling apart.   Molly Maloof: (11:02) People are getting divorced after eight years, and kids are getting damaged by these relationships. Kids are missing their relationships with their parents, parents are not bonding, kids are feeling neglected. We've got to save the family unit and I think it starts with the primary relationship. And to me, this is something that is interesting to me that, I just don't think a lot of people work on their relationships, like I don't think it's something that a lot of people consider to be a thing that they should be doing every day. But it's actually so fundamental to survival, right? And yet, it's like when things are getting really bad, that's when they get to work. So we are looking at different indications. But fundamentally, the big picture, what I'm trying to do, it's kind of like bring what people have been doing underground above ground.   Molly Maloof: (11:49) The history of MDMA was like couples therapy, right? And Shulgin was giving it to psychologists to improve couples relationships. And it turns out, like underneath a lot of dysfunction, a lot of sexual dysfunction in men and women is relationship problems. So if you just keep on getting to the root cause of anything, it's like, "Oh, why don't we just like deal with the root cause? And go with that?" So it's pretty-   Mason: (12:15) I've definitely experienced with underground MDMA.   Molly Maloof: (12:17) Yeah.   Mason: (12:19) Therapy?   Molly Maloof: (12:19) Sure. Exactly.   Mason: (12:22) Yeah. With my wife. Can you just enlighten people about how you'd use it in like a clinical setting and why in particular it has been used there?   Molly Maloof: (12:37) So MDMA, we're not technically using MDMA, unless we can't use the substance we're going to work on toward developing which there's a lot of reasons why, like drug developments hard, right? But MDMA would be a good backup solution because of its history. MDMA is essentially an entactogen. So what it does is it means to touch with that it means to generate, it's also known as enpathogen. So it creates a deep sense of empathy and human connection. And that empathy reminds you of like, "Oh, there's this person next to me." And I can actually feel how they feel right now.I can actually, more noticeably understand their emotional experience. And I can be a part of that experience, rather than feeling so separate from someone else. And fundamentally, it also works on the neurobiology of love. So it's a love drug. So it creates a similar experience to what I call post coital bliss, which is kind of like right after you had sex, and you're feeling like really comfortable and really blissed out, it's like, that's kind of the MDMA experience.   Molly Maloof: (13:42) And the interesting thing is that through different types of combinations of different chemicals, we're going to be able to modulate consciousness in ways that we never thought we could do and it's fascinating, just this whole field of psychedelic medicine because it's just beginning like this whole revolution is just beginning. And it's like happening from a place of like deep interested in science and understanding the brain, but also from like a deep reference to the past. So like MDMA, for example, in the past was used in couples therapy. So two couples would come in and take the medicine with the therapist. And the therapist will help them work through their issues whether it be like attachment trauma, or deep seated resentment that's been carried or anger or betrayal or just trust issues. And therapist would use this medicine to help people come together again.   Molly Maloof: (14:32) And one of the rules interestingly, for couples therapy with when Ann Shulgin was doing it and was giving it to other therapists was no sex. So it's funny because I actually think that psychedelics go great with sex. And I think that like, you have to know what you're doing, you have to know the dose, but I do think that there will be a role in the future for psychedelic assisted therapy, and there should also be a role for psychedelic aphrodisiacs.   Mason: (15:00) Speak more about that.   Molly Maloof: (15:02) Well, okay, so I'm giving a talk at delic on this is actually quite kind of interesting. I'll give you a little preview of my talk. So it turns out that psychedelic aphrodisiacs have probably been used since like the beginning of human history.   Mason: (15:17) Cool thing. The two best things.   Molly Maloof: (15:21) Right? So people are fascinating, right? So turns out that there's like a whole bunch of categories of psychedelic aphrodisiacs. And they're so interesting. So there's the Acacia DMT, harmelin combo, there's an Alaska DMT harmelin combo, there's also the combination, that combo the drug. There's also MDMA, and MDA, which is the entactogen class of synthetic love drugs. There's LSD and psilocybin, which are the tryptamines. There's actually like a salamander that in Romania, they put into a vodka, and they use it as aphrodisiacs. There's also toads that people use as aphrodisiacs. There's Morning Glory, which is an LSD derivative, there's Hawaiian woodrose, there's all sorts of cool plants and animals that have been used since primitive times that are psychedelic, and that can turn you on.   Molly Maloof: (16:25) And there's also dangerous ones things like scopolamine, which is not technically a psychedelic, but it's a deliriant. And you don't really want to take like the tour up. But people in Brazil apparently, occasionally accidentally get dosed by like prostitutes, who are trying to take advantage of them. So there's actually a pretty good Vice episode on that. But turns out that it's not exactly a psychedelic, but you can't have psychosis and hallucinations. So I was like, "Wow, these are really interesting. There's all sorts of different mushrooms and fungi that people use, there's also like, what is it called? There's a type of fungus. Actually, let me look it up. I've got my computer right here. So why don't I come out and give you a little bit more detail on this because it's kind of getting good.   Molly Maloof: (17:14) So there's like this substance, there's actually a fruit in Southeast Asia called my Marula bean. And it has all sorts of weird ingredients in it, that can make you trippy. And then interestingly, alcohol has the effect of creating beta-carboline in the body, which I didn't know. So it's actually technically slightly psychedelic, which I never knew this. And then absinthe has wormwood which has thujone in it, which is mildly psychedelic as well. So it's essentially there's different doses of different ingredients that are kind of used for different reasons, right? And so there's basically like the medicinal dose, they said, which is the lowest dose, like the sort of the micro dose of medicine. And that's kind of like people taking things just for overall improvement of their health, mental health. And then there's the sort of aphrodisiac dose, which is a little bit higher than that. So it's enough to get you to start noticing a shift in your perception, but not so much to make the trip really hard.   Molly Maloof: (18:12) And then there's the shamanic dose, which is like what's being used in a lot of clinical studies, which is like people try to get to the root of really deep trauma. And oftentimes, getting to the root of trauma is actually what a woman or man needs to do in order to actually heal their sexuality. So I got particularly interested in this space because MDMA kind of accidentally helped heal my sexual dysfunction that I had in my 20s because of some trauma that I had in college, that I didn't even realise was causing sexual dysfunction because I didn't know I had sexual dysfunction. I just knew that I wasn't aroused. I was in pain every time I had sex, and it wasn't orgasming. And then I met a guy, we were using MDMA together and all these problems went away. And I was like, "What just happened"? And I had my first orgasm with a guy. I had orgasmed on my own, but never with a man before because of unfortunately, my history of sex was not positive.   Molly Maloof: (19:07) So I basically been trying to figure this out, "Wow, it seems like there's an opportunity for healing sexual dysfunction." Because a lot of the root causes of sexual dysfunction are relationship problems and trauma. And so then I started uncovering the whole trauma, Pandora's box, and I started discovering natural numbers on sexual trauma. And it became this whole holy shit moment, like fuck the world is so fucked up when it comes to sex. Talk about like, this Me Too movements, just the tip of the iceberg. Underneath all of it is like, clearly dysfunctional sexual upbringing that most people have because of our completely outdated religious culture, right? Basically really religiosity in a lot of ways really ruins sexuality for people because it makes it into this forbidden fruit and then in that you start wanting all sorts of things that are wrong because you're like, "Oh, I can't have it. So I want all these things that I can't have."   Mason: (20:05) Forbidden fruit. And the guys our snake tells us you want the fruit.   Molly Maloof: (20:09) Oh yeah, and women want it too, by the way. I was like, when I discovered masturbation was a sin in like fifth grade. I was like, "Oh, dear god, I've been masturbating my entire life." So funny, right? And there was just this moment I had growing up being like, really feeling like I went from like a really good Christian girl to like, a very bad child because I masturbated. And that's just not okay. So then I get into the history of psychedelics. And this talk and essentially, before Christianity, psychedelics were being used by medicine women and priestesses, and medicine men, and they were given to people as a tool for enhancing their virility and their fertility and their sexual function. And it was like, part of nature, sex was something beautiful, it was something acceptable, it is something that was part of life, right? It was celebrated. And then Christianity basically turned polytheism into this monotheistic culture, and basically started burning witches, and saying that these love potions are evil, and that anything related to sex was wrong.   Molly Maloof: (21:09) And now sex is the thing that you have to have in the bounds of marriage, which the church of course has to govern. And if you do anything outside of that, or let alone, you're homosexual, you're now a deeply evil person, and you deserve to be harmed. And you really think about this history. It's kind of epically fucked how much, no offence to men, but like patriarchy, took over religion, and basically made it all about men being in charge of the religious experience. Even though women were actually very much part of like polytheistic religious culture, and sexuality was part of that culture. And so it's like all this stuff is really went downhill from there.   Molly Maloof: (21:50) And now we live in this modern time where like, the Catholic Church has unending problems with brutalising children sexually. And we have not woken up to this reality that sex is not evil. It's part of life. It's a beautiful part of life. It's a part of life that is one of those magical mystical, if not psychedelic experiences. And it shouldn't be demonised, but I do think we need to return it back into a place of wholesomeness and respect and love and really treating people the way we would want to be treated and I don't think any woman or man wants to be raped.   Molly Maloof: (22:29) I don't think any woman or man wants to be assaulted, and I don't think if any child grows up thinking that, that's normal. And I don't know what changes in culture that makes it okay for kids and adults to like mistreat each other, but I really think that like part of my mission in life is actually to create a better culture around sex and love and really this company that I started called the Adamo Bioscience is basically a company that's dedicated to studying the science of love because I think that if we understood it better, we might be able to create more of it, and through multiple pathways and products and services. And yes, I have a commercial interest, but mostly because like it seems totally a better thing to be spending my life making money off of than anything else right now, which is like why not try to create more love in the world? I think there should be like 15 to 20 companies trying to do this.   Mason: (23:22) I think there will be once you show them the way. That's the that's the beautiful thing about being someone who's charging and leading the way. Something as a couple, I was just like thank you, epic download by the way and I saw... And I think it's nice openly talking about religion this way, we can see that it's gone far away from the natural and the original intentions. And I saw you like, I can just see you reshare the meme the other day. It tickled me the most of it was just like white Jesus cuddling someone going, "I'm sorry I made you a drug addict. Let me a book before I send you to hell." It just popped me in school I was like doing things that potentially was going down the way of being like condemned and told by teachers, "Well, your stepfather is going to go to hell because he believes in evolution."   Molly Maloof: (24:16) Oh my god, I remember being in sixth grade being like, "I think evolution is real and my school thinks I'm..." But they don't believe in it. Like, holy shit, that was our lives.   Mason: (24:28) Oh man, I got a few pop moments. I was like, "Hang on. So I'm going down this route. Where I'm sinning because I'm trying to think critically here and so now I'm going to go to hell, but you created me in your image and I'm doing? You set me off. You know all, you know I'm going to end up here. And then you're going to send me to hell?" I'm like, "You asshole. You sadist." Anyway, that was my pop.   Molly Maloof: (24:54) What got me to like what really challenged my beliefs when I was 18 was talking to a guy who went to Harvard and messenger, you're in messageboard you're talking to people smarter and older than you. And I remember talking to this guy and he asked me this question. He's like, "How can God be omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent and how can there be a hell? If he's everywhere all the time all at once? How can it be ever a separation from God because hell is a separation from God?" And I was like, brain explode like oh that's impossible logical, total it felt like this doesn't work, right? Like does that work does not compute. And my brain just exploded I went into the bathroom and cried and cried in front of the mirror. I was like, "Oh my god, it means I'm all alone." I actually still believe in God now, but like my belief in God is much different than the patriarchal God that I grew up.   Molly Maloof: (25:50) I still pray to Jesus because I'm used to it's like a pattern, but I don't think Jesus is the only God. I think there's plenty of Gods you can pray to. But realistically I think that God is like infinite intelligence and beauty underneath everything that whether, and it's totally no gender or God can't have a gender.   Mason: (26:09) I'm going to send you my podcast with George Kavassilas. It's another mind blowing one. It's talking about the God matrix and the universe, the natural, the synthetic it's like really, really clear.   Molly Maloof: (26:25) Oh, cool.   Mason: (26:25) I'll send you because it's a very good one. And you know what, you were saying things that don't work and you know what I like that does work is aphrodisiac. So this is like telling before we move on from that point it's something that really jumped out at me that I really love and I might go a little bit of a tangent because I just wrote about it this kind of topic, this nuance. Yesterday we sent out a newsletter around lion's mane and I'm like I really love Lion's Mane because it's a bridge herb and for so often people are looking at, "I want a nootropic and so they go into a narrow," which is nice sometimes. It's nice to go reductionist. And you go, "I want something that's going to increase output and give me something now and I'm going to use this nootropic in order to get something. And then they eventually fall to Lion's Mane as like a nootropic and the word sits there very medical and very [inaudible 00:27:20], which is nice as well I use it.   Mason: (27:24) But then Lion's Mane is one if you get like a complete non grown on grain, you get one grown on wood, it's got elements of wild to it, all of a sudden you look past the textbook written black and white, in the tropic and you got the same intention here and then you look up at nature and you see, "Wow, my brain is so much more than what I thought it was and the output of my brain and the way the way that it operates in conjunction with my organs in my blood and my outlook in my life, it's connected to where I'm going to be. What I do now is connected to how I'm going to be when I'm 90 years old."   Molly Maloof: (27:59) Totally.   Mason: (28:00) it's not just take something get some output, it's like this pattern you can see the brain function connecting to the constant pattern of like, like the waves in never ending. Internally there are things that are like constantly happening that I can cultivate and work with and look at and ease into that are going to have my brain on the sea of marrow is the Daoists.   Molly Maloof: (28:21) I love that. The sea of marrow.   Mason: (28:26) And the aphrodisiacs are the same like that. And it's a fun one because people go, "Oh, aphrodisiacs great, it'll get your horny." And what you're talking about it's like a carrot that leads like you go and that's what I see. Like how I see Daoist aphrodisiacs as well, like deer antler in your pants.   Molly Maloof: (28:46) Yeah.   Mason: (28:48) Horny goat weed, like epimedium. These herbs cordycep, Eucommia, schisandra. People say the word aphrodisiac, and you go, "Great, okay, cool. I'm going to engage because I want to be horny." And you think there's more substance too, behind it. And then you get onto these aphrodisiacs and you start engaging with your sexuality, and all of a sudden it's an opportunity to connect to yourself and the word aphrodisiac falls away, and you start connecting to the sexuality. And I just heard it, then you're saying we're using aphrodisiacs to go and connect to the sexual trauma so we can connect to ourselves and our partner. And I think it's beautiful. I love it.   Molly Maloof: (29:32) Well, it's actually that the sexual trauma can damage your relationship to sex. So because it actually programmes your brain. There's this thing called the Garcia effect, and it's like when you eat something that makes you sick, you don't want it anymore because your brain associates that with feeling sick. Now not all women or men who have trauma end up with having sexual dysfunction, but a large percentage of women do that. In fact, like somewhere between 60 to 80% of women who had sexual trauma have some form of sexual dysfunction. And like in America, the numbers, which I think are underreported, are like one in five women are raped, one in four women are abused as children, one and three are assaulted in her lifetime. And so there's quite a lot of women who have sexual dysfunction because of the fact that their sexual experience was not pleasant. And it was, in fact, potentially scary and dangerous.   Molly Maloof: (30:26) So now their brain says, "Oh, that experience that's not good. I don't like that. And that's scary." And so it's kind of programmed as a traumatic memory. Now, only 30% of women with sexual trauma end up with PTSD, which is interesting. So there's actually more women with sexual dysfunction, than PTSD from sexual trauma, which is fascinating. So the theory is, is that with MDMA assisted therapy, that the medicine can actually help you revisit the trauma from a place of feeling safe and feeling okay and loved with a partner, preferably with a partner, if you're with someone that you feel safe with. And you can revisit that trauma, and then it gets reprogrammed in your brain, reconsolidated as, "Oh, this is not the worst thing in the world anymore." This is not something I need to like, fear or be afraid of anymore. That was just an event that happened. And in fact I think the real magic will come from when women can experience pleasure, again, through psychedelic medicine. As I did.   Mason: (31:32) How ironic that there's an aphrodisiac involved in that process.   Molly Maloof: (31:36) Well, you think, right? You think that like, that would make sense. It's just funny. I think we're just beginning to understand space. But I don't know if people even though this, but there's actually like three phases of neurobiology of love. The first is like the intense sex drive, which is like, our body is designed to get us to fuck a lot of people when you're young. Actually, the sex drive is like oestrogen and testosterone. And then like, you're horny, and you're young, and you want to have sex, and not everybody does. A lot of young people aren't these days, but the point is, is that it's designed to get you to be turned on and attracted to a lot of people. And then when you meet someone and you have sex with them, what happens is, is that you start activating other hormones. So dopamine starts getting released, oxytocin gets released after orgasm, and that can actually increase the attachment to this person.   Molly Maloof: (32:29) So especially in women particular. So then we start moving on to romantic love, which is actually an attachment device that's designed like we really evolved it in order to basically bond ourselves to someone, become obsessed and addicted to someone, so that we're more likely to have a baby with that person. And then keep that baby alive long enough that they will not die, right? And so the romantic love starts to switch over to pair bonding. And pair bonding is actually designed to keep that baby alive and family unit strong. Because pair bonding hormones are very similar to familial bonds. Like they think it's all mostly oxytocin vasopressin. So like, you actually look at the neurobiology of all this. It's highly adaptive, and it's a huge survival advantage to have love in your life, huge survival advantage to find someone to care about them. You're more likely to reproduce, you're more likely to make a child and a family and you're more likely to have a healthy family if there's healthy bonds.   Molly Maloof: (33:26) And so I think that we should be really looking at these things from the lens of science because a lot of what's happening in society today because I think technology is seeing these bonds decay, we're seeing people give up their marriages. We're seeing people walk away from long term relationships, and we're seeing families affected and children affected. And one of the main adverse childhood experiences a kid will have is divorce. So I'm just like, "Fuck, why are we not looking at these fundamental facets of society and saying, gosh, why can't we do better?" And maybe there's a way we can do better that's ethical, and that's honourable and that's scientifically sound and that will actually leave people better off and we found them. But again, this is like very much new territory. I don't think anybody has tried to do this or thought about doing this. And I'm actually giving you a lot of information that I like is going to keep kind of quiet but whatever you like might as well announce it to like your community first.   Mason: (34:20) Yeah. I think we're worth the drop. It's interesting, it's such a return to the natural. And I've been using that a lot because I feel like I'm saying for the matrix. I'm like nailing all over the bloody place at the moment like people.   Molly Maloof: (34:36) All the time.   Mason: (34:39) And it's so confronting for people which and I agree, as a system we haven't... What you're doing is going like, "Screw it, go to the core and think, multiple generations around leading to the core. Like, let's look at the divorce rates, let's look at the unhappiness and the lack of love in relationships and how that impacts ourselves and children." And I think about it a lot. And it gives me that raw, even talking about it now, there is tingling and there's a rawness and a raw excitement, when you know you're actually in the right place. But it's very confronting, looking at just how much healing there is to be done.   Molly Maloof: (35:18) Yeah. Well, someone told me when I was like, everyone was like, "No one's going to invest in this, and no one's going to do this. And this is crazy." I know, actually, I have a lead investor. So if investors are listening, I'm about to fundraise. So you should probably email me because it's going to be really good. It's going to be a really exciting time in the next few months because I'm actually going to be-   Mason: (35:37) I think I have like, probably $400 liquid at the moment.   Molly Maloof: (35:45) I'm not going to take your last $400. But maybe we could do something with-   Mason: (35:47) But that's not the last 400. We're being responsible in other areas.   Molly Maloof: (35:50) ... Lion's Mane. Yeah. No, but it's interesting. So like, I have a lot of people from biotech say, "This is absolutely never going to happen. It's impossible. Don't even try." And then I had a lot of people who are starting biotech companies say, "Fuck, if this problem is as big as you describe it is, then I'm pretty sure we should be throwing like a billion dollars at this." And I was like, "Fuck. Yeah, dude. Totally."   Mason: (36:16) Absolutely. Is there a market for this? If the people who would poohing it are probably the ones that just can't look in the mirror and be like, "I am the market." It's like, it's in your backyard. It's everywhere. Every time you go to a family reunion, every time you go to bed.   Molly Maloof: (36:40) I shouldn't say this out loud, but family members of mine-   Mason: (36:43) Just say it in a monologue.   Molly Maloof: (36:44) Yeah. I know my family story pretty well. I like deconstructed all of our problems at this point. I've plugged my computer in. And having deconstructed a lot of these problems, and really examined the people in my family who struggle with different problems. In my extended family, in particular, like my aunt and my grandmother, and just people I know. There's a lot to be said about early relationships, and about how important families are to the long term health of children. And when things go wrong in families, it can really, really hurt people long term. And I just looked at like, my great, great grandparents and their relationship with my grandmother. And I looked at my grandmother's relationship with her daughters, and I just looked at all this, and I was like, "Wow there's so many things that we don't realise that if we just fix that one thing, right, then it would have transformed the entire rest of a person's life."   Molly Maloof: (37:59) But there's a lot of things, we don't have solutions for. A lot of things we don't have pathways for, and a big one of those is healing trauma. And I recently did about 21 hours of deep, deep neuro somatic trauma healing from a friend of mine who's like a super gifted healer. And I can't explain in scientific terms what he did with me, but I do know one thing, and that's that we do not do a good job in our society, helping people who have trauma, heal, and express it immediately right over this happened. In fact, the medical system typically, when a girl has raped, she'll basically get a rape kit, and maybe sent to a psychologist. And if she's lucky, she'll get in, in a few months. And it's like, we don't actually have pathways for healing and caring for kids who've had major... I saw this, by the way, in health care system. I saw kids who were abused by their parents. And they go to social workers, and they kind of handed around the foster care system.   Molly Maloof: (39:00) And it's really crazy how much people experienced trauma in society. And there's really not a lot of good solutions besides talk therapy. And if talk therapy worked so well, we probably not be seeing so many problems. Like if talk therapy was like a really effective solution for all of our problems, we'd probably be seeing a lot of problems solved. Now I'm not saying talk therapy doesn't work.   Mason: (39:23) It doesn't pop the champagne. I think that's where I'm with you on that. I'm at the point in my journey where I'm like talk therapy with someone who's got a Jungian background is like perfect for me because I went so hard on psychedelics. And so I'm loving just the groundedness of it. But to get it going-   Molly Maloof: (39:36) Totally. I'm not saying it doesn't work. I think talk therapy is very much like working on your consciousness, right? Your conscious brain. Everyone actually need to talk therapy in order to fundamentally create sense, sense making around their life experience. Like that's the best thing it does. Is it creates a framework of understanding of like, "This happened to me, this happened to me, this happened to me and I understand why, and I understand how I dealt with it." And I'm trying to do a better job at it, right? But I think what's really more interesting about like, what's happening in psychedelic medicine is what's on a subconscious and the unconscious level, right? Like hypnotherapy does a pretty decent job at getting into the subconscious level.   Molly Maloof: (40:27) But what's fascinating is like all this stuff that's buried in the unconscious, right? That comes out in your dreams, that comes out in your... A lot of people have nightterors. That is most definitely a bunch of unconscious process trauma, like unprocessed trauma that needs to be like addressed. And I don't think people see it that way. They're just like, "Oh, it's a nightmare disorder." It's like, "No, you probably have like a major unresolved trauma from your childhood that you really should look at." And oftentimes, I know, multiple people who've taken psychedelics, and it just comes up to them. They're like, "Oh, my God, I was raped in high school by a few guys." And it just like comes up. Or they're like, "Oh, my God, I was sexually assaulted as a child." And this stuff comes up underneath because it's lifted out of the subconscious and unconscious.   Molly Maloof: (41:21) And that's what we don't talk enough about in like modern medicine. And even like psychology, I think, is this like, "Oh, wow," like everybody has deep trauma. But if you do have deep trauma, and it's like running in the background, it's like malware, it's just draining your energy. It's draining CPUs, it's actually playing a huge role in your behaviours and your triggers and how you interact with people. And if it's not looked at or addressed, and especially if they're things like internal family systems, like there's a lot of good forms of talk therapy that can really do a good job of bringing you back to your childhood or bringing you back these moments. And I don't even think drugs are completely necessary to get to these places. Meditation is also a phenomenal tool that a lot of people don't take advantage of. And there's a bunch of different types of meditation that are fairly obscure that can do a great job at helping people get underneath the surface of their pain.   Molly Maloof: (42:11) But a lot of this stuff is isn't mainstream. And it's a shame because a lot of people are still just like, "Where do I go to deal with all this stuff?" Most of the stuff that's worked really well for me has been very obscure stuff that I have had to find through word of mouth. And it's like not highly advertised experiences and therapies and meditation schools and it's like a lot more on the realm of like woo, but it works these things have worked. And it's like strange to me that they're not more well studied and in the mainstream.   Mason: (42:46) Yeah. We've got such a wide array of people with such a wide array of histories at different stages in their processes. And there's naturally going to be different therapies and different angles that are going to pierce the veil to whatever is sitting there behind the curtain in the subconscious and I definitely, like for me it was like personal development back in the day going like you know landmark forum was like one of the things to kind of like a bang. And I could see behind it and then okay that lost its relevance at some point. And then psychedelics became very relevant, got me probably went a little bit too hard into identifying with that community and the mannerisms around taking medicine and like that feeling like I finally belonged rather than doing the work. And then getting beautiful lessons and now it's like getting to the point where talk therapy for me 10 years ago just would have been like I think just sort of lapping up against a great wall.   Mason: (43:48) Whereas now I know how to scale that concrete wall, and I know what it looks like when I do connect to the subconscious. And I understand my processing bringing it out and what my process is, thanks to the work I did with psychedelics. I know how I'm going to bring that into awareness in my everyday and that's when personal practise comes in. That's where I know to the extent of like, with my exercise regime, I know keeping me strong enough and healthy enough to be able to handle staying in that space, where I can constantly acknowledge that part of me that wants to hide behind that veil and run everything. And I know someone like Tani she's like, there was a point where psychedelics were like, incredible. She goes, "I know I need that." And then she's like, "I don't need that anymore." And my meditation practise is exactly where I need to be and that's where I'm going to get the biggest bang.   Mason: (44:39) Not that it's about a bang, but she's going to get the rubber hitting the road. So I think that's like that integration because you see a lot of people in the psychedelic world, kind of pooh poohing therapy going like modern therapies like this domesticated little dog and psychedelics are this big dog in terms of what it can do. And it's like, true in one context, and in another context, if it's just integrated, you have an array of ways of approaching as you're talking about them. Then all of a sudden, the approach becomes multicoloured and multifaceted. And hopefully, it becomes more effective.   Molly Maloof: (45:16) I really think that we just maybe just need to marry them more. Even like MDMA assisted therapy today, is largely like, hands off. It's largely don't talk to the patient, let them do, they have their own experience, and let them do whatever they need to do to heal, it's not really guided at all. It's mostly kind of like, it's guided, but it's not really like lead. It's like, you're there. You're like going through this process, and you're having these experiences, but they're not actually trying to get you to go anywhere on your trip, they're trying to let you have your experience. Whereas like, I think that, in particular, it may be possible that like, we can give people medicine that gives them have the... I think that the idea is that you have the preparation. And then you have the creating the right set and setting. And then you take the medicine, and then you have this like deep integration experience. And that's typically what the experiences for psychedelic assisted therapy today. The question is, will the FDA let us give people drugs that turn them on unsupervised?   Molly Maloof: (46:26) Because you kind of need to be a little bit... You don't really want anyone watching you while you are with your partner. So I got a lot of questions, I need to figure out to make this thing, an actual proper model. But I think that it'll be really interesting to see how this thing evolves because I'm at the very beginning of this journey. I have an idea of what I think that this business model could look like. I have no idea what I think this therapy could be. But a lot of it is I'm like figuring it out, right? I'm like in this total creative mode of what will the future of medicine look like, if you could create it from scratch? And I've already done this once, and it turned out really great for me. And I could easily have just gone and scaled personalised medicine clinics for wealthy people. But now I'm like, "Let's see if we can create a democratised version of this medicine that actually is like it's going to start out expensive, but let's figure out how we can make this something that's eventually affordable for people." That's the goal.   Mason: (47:28) I think the other thing, that's why it feels like a safe bets. And interesting way to put it, but it makes sense, and has substance is because I think a lot of people approach this, and what we've always been taught how to do, lecture people on how they should be, and I'm going to create a product based on how I think you should act. Whereas what you're talking about, is going there's, let's say we're looking at, like morality around let's stay in our marriage, so that we don't destroy this family unit. There's a way that, that's been happened, we've been told what to do by the media. And therefore the part of us goes, if someone goes you have to stay on your marriage because it's the morally right thing to do. You're bad if you do that, there's no attraction there because it's an external like judgement , and we want to revolt against being told what to do, especially by society.   Mason: (48:31) It's why we get your rage against the machine, etc. And then, if you just understand the patterns that emerge when people do connect back to themselves, and do deal with their trauma within a relationship, what's natural for people and seems to be the pattern is people do naturally resonate with maintaining the relationship that they've chosen or maybe in some instance. Like a very conscientious uncoupling in a way that you're very connected and aware to the way that children are going to be affected by it and minimising that impact. Either way, there's an emergence of morality an emergence of ethics, rather than being told what to do.   Molly Maloof: (49:19) Yeah. There's emergence of just like, knowing what's right and wrong. Like, "Oh, yeah. We're not meant to be together. But we're also not meant to destroy each other's lives as we get divorced." I think if we were to be able to help people stay together, that would be ideal. But if we're also able to help people consciously uncouple in a way that doesn't destroy their lives. And I've heard this from multiple people, like one of my friends did MDMA with his ex wife when they were getting divorced and it completely transformed the divorce process because they were actually able to love each other through the process, and they're now really good friends. They're like super good friends. They just didn't want to be married. And it's like, that's appropriate, right? Like, it's also appropriate not to hate people for years. Just the number of people I know that have deep seated resentment for their exes. And it's like, that's not healthy for your nervous system, that's not healthy for your long term health. That's not going to keep you well.   Mason: (50:20) So we've both dived into exploring what health is, especially in the context of, and in this what we're talking about in this context of like synthetic morality, versus what emerges as right. I've just started in the last few months really feeling icky about the way I've used the word health and the way it's been used because it's natural, if you talk about healthy, then naturally, there's an opposition of unhealthy there. And so much of what's implied is basing yourself on, "I'm healthy because I'm not that." And so there's this intrinsic opposition, that... An opposition and kicking back against something in order to form identity around health. And we need the word because healthy, it's just a fun word that everyone knows. But kind of similar and synonymous with what we're talking about, and the emergence of morality and the emergence of ethics coming just through whether it's psychedelic therapy or whatever, how are you relating to health now?   Mason: (51:28) Because I definitely am finding, the more I move away from being wrapped in and around that world of being healthy versus unhealthy, and the more I kind of sit in that middle and see. What's emerging through the patterns of myself doing, I don't know, finding harmony for myself, delving into my shit, coming out the other side. Doing things that are maybe I've seen is unhealthy in one way, in one ideological circle. So I want to talk about dropping that coming back to what emerges within me. It makes the space, I don't know, I feel very roared and identified in terms of, even though we're leaders in the health space, I feel very, unidentified with anything that revolves around that word healthy. I'm curious as to where you're at, in your relationship to what is healthy.   Molly Maloof: (52:25) I used to think it was what the WHO said, which was like the complete absence of disease or infirmary. And then I was like, "No, it's not realistic." Health is actually a dynamic function of life. And to me, I have a very unique perspective on how I think, and it all stemmed from this other definition, that was the ability to adapt and self managed in the face of adversity. But I started digging under the surface, and I really started understanding things like biology, and fundamental human anatomy, and microbiology and physiology and molecular and cellular biology. And I was really thinking about it from like a mechanistic perspective as well. And I think that if you actually just look at any system, you can ask how healthy a system is based on its capacity. And whether it's able to perform its functions properly, basically, whether it's able to maintain its integrity of its structure. And that's usually a function of how much energy and how much work capacity is available.   Molly Maloof: (53:31) So, for example, the healthcare system, deeply unhealthy in America. Demands outspent capacity and it just completely started crumbling, right? Like just did not work, was not resilient, was not flexible, it was actually really struggling and breaking a lot and a lot of people have been broken through the experience of going to the healthcare system. So capacity and demands, if there's more capacity than demands, you're usually in a really good healthy state because you have enough energy to maintain the structure to do work. Now, when your demands are really high, and your capacity is really low, shit starts to break down. And so this is like the mitochondrial theory of ageing, which is fundamentally that when we lose about 50% of our functional capacity of organs, they start to malfunction, they actually start producing the ability to do the work functions that they had. And then we start to break down.   Molly Maloof: (54:27) And largely this is driven by metabolic dysfunction and stress. And like lack of exercise is really a big huge driver of disease because it's the number one signal for making more energy. So basically, I look at how we... If you actually think about like the biology of like metabolism, when we breathe air, we drink water, we eat food, it goes into our cells, it gets turned into substrates, those get put into the mitochondria, which are like little engines that could of our cells, and they have this called the electron transport chain which pulls off electrons kind of like power line. Like electrons are running through this electron transport chain. And they're powering this hydrogen turbine that creates an electrochemical gradient. And that gradient creates a battery and a capacitor. So a battery is like a differential charge between two, it's like a charge polarity. And then the capacitor is like a differential charge between two late membranes.   Molly Maloof: (55:22) And then so capacitors can deploy energy quickly. Batteries store energy as potential energy. So when you really look at it, like most people have broken their metabolisms in modern society, there's so many people with diabetes, so many people with heart disease, somebody with cancer, so many people with dementia. And those are really symptoms of broken metabolism, broken mitochondrial function. And it's funny because like, we look at all these things as separate diseases, but actually, they have the same root causes and like half of cancers are made up of metabolic in nature. So everyone's been kind of obsessed with this like, DNA and genetics theory of ageing. I'm just so unconvinced because it's kind of like, okay, that's like the architectural plans of the body. But in order to actually express those plans, you need energy. You actually need to make energy to take the plants and turn into a structure, which is proteins, right?   Molly Maloof: (56:15) So my perspective is that, like life is this interplay between energy matter and information. And essentially, like life itself, is negative entropy. So we're just constantly trying to fight against entropy, and the best way we know how to do that is like, maintain our functional capacity and be able to repair ourselves. And so this lack of being able to repair ourselves is often a function of the fact that a lot of people are just like, the biggest complaint in medicine is, "I'm tired," right? Being tired all the time is actually a reflection of energetic inefficient, insufficient energy production.   Mason: (56:56) Is that in particular with like the battery storage as you work-   Molly Maloof: (56:59) Yeah, exactly.   Mason: (57:00) Which is funnily used when you talk about, like his Yin and Yang.   Molly Maloof: (57:05) Yes. There you go. Right? We need time off to store energy. The most interesting thing about the Yin and Yang, is that there's this clear relationship between this toggling of switching between different states in biology to flourish. So you actually have to go from intense work to relaxation or rest. You have to go for ideally if you actually just look at all the best [inaudible 00:57:30] stressors, it's like, hyperoxia hypoxia breathwork. What is that? It's breathwork. Right? If you look at cold and heat, that's sauna and coal plant right? What are these things work so damn well, for making us feel healthy and feel good? Well, they're literally boosting mitochondrial biogenesis. And in some cases, like eating fasting is my toffee G, right? It's throwing-   Mason: (57:53) Being awake, being asleep.   Molly Maloof: (57:56) Being outside being indoors, like we actually need to spend way more time outdoors than we're doing. And like being in buildings and having your feet grounded into the earth, like being alone being with people, like life is this constant interplay, right? Yeah, there you go.   Mason: (58:14) That was earthing that I just mumbled.   Molly Maloof: (58:16) Yeah. So like today I've been experimenting with like different ways of movement throughout my day because I'm kind of sick of being in front of the computer constantly. And it makes me feel really unhappy. And there's this great meme you posted, feel dead inside, go outside. Fucking love that meme. And it's like, everybody loved that meme. I got it posted so many times. And it was like, actually, I spent two hours today on phone calls outside. And like, people get annoyed when you're not on a Zoom call. But I'm like, "Look, if I can walk, I will walk." And I got two separate workouts and that were like about 10 minutes each in the gym that were like broken up throughout the day. And it's like, holy shit, did I feel better today than I did for like many other previous days where I was just in front of a computer the whole time? Like, we're not meant to be in front of screens all day long. It's not healthy.   Molly Maloof: (59:06) It's not a healthy period. So the more that we can try to align our lives as much as possible with something with how we're actually like primitively programmed because our genes have not evolved since primitive times. We're the same genetically, there's been a few changes, but fundamentally, we're basically the same people as we were in hunting and gathering times. So it's no question that we've lost a lot of our health in the process of becoming more modern because we basically hijacked all of these different pathways that are actually ancient pathways of survival that are now being used to take advantage of people. Like the salt, sugar and fat in foods, the convenience of cars, right? Like humans are designed to conserve energy and to find food.   Molly Maloof: (59:53) So the society is now designed to like make everything ultra convenient, and eat too much. And it's like, okay. We don't move our bodies enough, we drive everywhere, we know what that's done to society. And so it's kind of like the real process of becoming a truly modern human is to actually try to like life according to your genetics, while also existing in a modern culture. It's a huge challenge.   Mason: (01:00:19) Can be a great thing. This is like the Daoist and the Yogi's would need to go outside of society to go and live in a cave so their life could revolve a

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We’re bringing a full spectrum intergalactic, God matrix transcending, health sovereignty-love-fueled conversation today on the SuperFeast podcast. In this stellar conversation, Mase sits down with Exo and cosmopolitical specialist George Kavassalis for a journey through the unified field of love and universal veils of human experience. Do you consider yourself to be truly free? Do you believe in the God matrix? And what is the journey of humanity thus far that you won't find in history books? In discussing what it means to embody organic sovereignty, George expresses why he feels now more than ever human civilisation is at a point where every individual needs to harness their creative powers and take responsibility for their experience and wellbeing. Disclosing control systems that utilise the intelligence within technology, and Exopolitical mysteries; This conversation is rich, multi-dimensional, and at the heart of it is a message steeped in love, co-creation, honour, and respect for each other. There's a reason why the George Kavassilas episode was the most downloaded episode ever on The Mason Taylor Show. Tune in for this transcending conversation.   "And now what we've got is, they're using the ultimate weapon, which is love, against the population. Now you've got them in reverence of your control system, and now they're devoting and loving your processes. So now you have overridden the problem of free will in the universe." - George Kavassalis     Mase and George discuss: Natural lore. Incarnation. Exo politics. Cosmo polotics. Phasing out 5G. Sacred geometry. The God matrix Celestial entities. Where Gods reside. Cosmic conquerers. Reality Management. The Multi-and Omniverse TI (Technological Intelligence). mRNA technology and nanotechnology.   Who is George Kavassilas? George Kavassilas is an author, mentor, and public speaker. George has had a lifetime of experiences beyond the ordinary, encountering a wide spectrum of expressions of life both Inter-Dimensional and Extra-Terrestrial in nature. As a consequence, he went through a process of reconciling the knowledge and wisdom gained from these experiences and came to realise a natural responsibility to share what he has learned with our global community. George now embodies a limitless passion in addressing life’s primordial questions: “Who are we? Where do we come from? and What are we doing here?”   George knows his life path includes a focus to expose all levels of deception, no matter how far they go. He carries a deep-seated sense of responsibility to help liberate our Humanity from all forms of imposing doctrine and dogma, without exception - be they Earthly or even Cosmic in nature. As George says, “It’s really a remembering process to revitalise and resurrect the Sovereign and Infinite Being you truly are.” The Extent - The Challenge - The Creative Solution   CLICK HERE TO LISTEN ON APPLE PODCAST    Resources: George's website To contact George Superwoo Radio (George's Podcast) Our Universal Journey (George's Book)   Q: How Can I Support The SuperFeast Podcast? A: Tell all your friends and family and share online! We’d also love it if you could subscribe and review this podcast on iTunes. Or  check us out on Stitcher, CastBox, iHeart RADIO:)! Plus  we're on Spotify!   Check Out The Transcript Here:   Mason: (00:00) George, thank you so much for coming on. I've been so looking forward to this.   George Kavassilas: (00:06) Yeah Mason, thank you as well. I see you as a brother in life, and I'm just really, really grateful that you invited me back on. Thank you.   Mason: (00:17) And it was New Year, 2015, I want to say. I think maybe even 2014, actually, where we met at a New Year's party in Byron, lots has happened since then. It's great to still be connected with you. And as I was telling you beforehand, it's funny, like I jumped out five minutes before we had to get on another podcast and went to the toilet and could hear the booming Kavassilas voice downstairs. And it was your son, who never comes to the warehouse. It's just.   George Kavassilas: (00:51) Turns up five minutes before we're on.   Mason: (00:54) So good. He actually, he said to send his love shit forgot to send. But it's yeah, it's so beautiful to arrive here. And I know there's many people in the SuperFeast community that do know your work, I know that for sure, a lot of people have heard the podcasts we did years back on the Mason Taylor Show. And that's still the most downloaded episode on that podcast. There's a lot of people that aren't aware of your work. And I thought, especially since we talk so much about Taoism, the yogic universe. But we talk so much about going back to its roots, almost its Shamanic earth-based roots and not the colonisation of the systems. And that is you take that into such a more macro, micro at the same time in your work, in the education through your workshops, through your one-on-ones, through your podcast, your book.   Mason: (02:09) And so, I'd love to just ask that general question and ask for that sharing for those that haven't been exposed to your insights and your experience yet to share your core work and perhaps even your experience of the universe, what it is, but I'll just leave it out there. It's such a hard one to kind of ask.   George Kavassilas: (02:38) It might be. What a cracker. For me, it's a lifetime of experiences from when I was a little baby, it's just been steady throughout my whole life. Sure, there's quiet periods and then, they ramp up again and then, and as I mature and I grow and I evolve, the experiences change as well. So in the last three years was a winding up of my agreements with what people call the SSP or the Secret Space programme, or, you know, in some MyLab agreements that I had in place and now for me I didn't sign anything from this incarnation. This was all preordained prior incarnation that I, the agreements were made prior to incarnating that all would work with these groups. And so that's all come to a close now, you know.   Mason: (03:37) What do you mean by working with them?   George Kavassilas: (03:37) I would offer myself up to go on missions and to be trained and go on missions by them training to a degree. But, you know, because they, it's kind of interesting in the sense that they, they end up getting power hungry and then what they want to do is hold onto someone like myself and then use someone like myself as an asset to push the boundaries or even just be belligerent and not give two cahoots about the original agreement. And they just get lost in their own power trip, basically become self deluded. I call it like a porcelain glaze that, you know, that comes over people and they get lost in it. So that's all come to a close and that's just one example. And now, you know, my interactions with the matrix and with other power groups it's changed. And I'm merging into more of a background advisory role to the civilization builders that are here on earth now who are building the next expression of civilization on earth. And it's a really wonderful role to be playing.   Mason: (04:59) So let's look at the context of what the purpose is of building new, you know, like an evolution of civilization. Why are we doing that? Why are we like what's the purpose of moving in those directions and working on this. I mean, I'm kind of framing it up there of like, I guess, especially heavily on the subject of your book is where are we in? Where are we ending up here?   George Kavassilas: (05:27) Yeah. And it's, you know, a lot of people with my opening statements just now probably going, what's he talking about.   Mason: (05:32) Everyone just hold on, everyone. It really like a lot to have context to build in. We don't have a short amount of time. We've got as long as we want, but holding now like, you know if especially, if you haven't hang in there, it'll be take the journey. It'll, it'll it'll land   George Kavassilas: (05:57) And it'll come. It looks, it'll be self-explanatory as we go along. And so humanity's at a really interesting stage. Like you could say we're at a crossroads and that's as obvious as it gets. And, you know, there's this old saying, we are the ones who are mining for how many people are actually transferring that from an Ideological concept into the being and living the expression of that and you're one who's doing that for sure. And there's lots of people who are listening, who are doing that. However, there'll be people who are listening, who are feeling a bit lost and not really sure about what they're supposed to be doing in this world. And even on the way there, this morning at a beautiful dialogue on the phone with a friend of mine, who's really, really awake and aware, but she was like, I'm feeling lost at the moment.   George Kavassilas: (06:57) Don't know what I'm supposed to be doing. And I feel that this is, this is where a lot of us are at the moment. And so there's other people that I've been speaking with lately who are overwoken to their fundamental purpose. And the fundamental purpose is the language, you know, it's the Georges and that I use, it's just called fundamental purpose. And that is for our existence here, why did I really come to this world? What did I really come to earth and incarnate? What was the main, well, let's call it the paramount or the principle, the foundational reason why I came to have an incarnation on earth at this time, when it's the timing, see when you've got this entity called humanity as a single organism, and then you have this incredible planet, which has got more biodiversity here compressed into one space, time location due to the fractal nature of it all than any other reality in the universe. And these two entities are having this most dynamic relationship and we've come right into that space right in the middle, right in the middle of there. And there are many of us who are here that are aware that we have come to engage. We have come to participate and facilitate and support and do all these wonderful things in the evolutionary leap that both mother earth and this entity called humanity, are both co-creating and symbiotically experiencing right now. And we are here to do exactly that to engage and the universal law of non-interference has been overridden for quite a large group of beings to come and to engage. And now there's, you know, because I work very deeply in exo politics and cosmo politics. That's the two areas that I specialise in, and these are the skillsets I bring into this lifetime. And I've been, as you know, I've had a lot of experiences in my life.   George Kavassilas: (09:07) We've had a lot of, you know, private talks about that. And they've been quite extraordinary in nature. And it was all leading up to the work that I'm doing now, which is more of that advisory role in the background, because the evolutionary leap that we're in now, it's this next step. And so if the next step goes in a direction, let's say the next step goes over here, but we needed to go over here because of the step that comes after that. Okay. If, if we don't have this next step in our evolution, heading in the direction, it needs to go in, and let's say, we get pulled over here then to bring it from out of the heat, back to where it was supposed to go in. The following step is such a big gap and it's going to create a lot of pain and suffering to bring it back course corrected.   George Kavassilas: (09:57) And so people like myself are here and others we're here to actually play that mentoring advisory role because the civilization builders that are here at the moment working behind the scenes to create the next expression of civilization on our planet, which is being implemented over the next five years, I would say, and then we'll be living it for another 10 years before it changes again, where we're looking at helping to mentor and guide the folks who are here doing this fabulous work to create the structures and expressions of society that are going to be beneficial. And I mean, heading in that direction towards that place, that both mother earth and humanity and the solar being, the galactic being, the cosmic being, the universal being are all intending it to go to, but they're allowing a certain amount of leeway in the process.   Mason: (10:58) Would you mind, I know this is another big conversation where I'm feeling is to even step back into get context of where we from in your experience and what you teach the universal being, what is the universal being? What is that? And what is that journey that we've gone through up until this point and how did we undergo it?   George Kavassilas: (11:24) Yeah, that's a big question. That's okay. So, you know, what is a universe? A universe is from the infinite nature of life of being expresses itself. And that expression becomes manifested. And that manifestation from that space becomes what we call a universe, a reality. And the being who expressed itself in that form is the prime creator of that space. So then it's responsible for everything. So it has the ultimate responsibility and it has the ultimate authority. That's the way natural law and law spelled L O R E natural lore. That's why that's the tenant. That's the main tenant of natural laws. Only one covers everything, you know, and the ultimate, the prime creator of a reality is the ultimate authority of that reality. And these are the ultimate responsibility of that reality. And there's no escaping that. That's the way life operates.   George Kavassilas: (12:25) So it's about, you know, and it's the same for us on a, on a micro level. You know, we are the prime creator of our experiences. So, you know, how long are we going to sit back and play the blame game for when's the time that we're going to actually step up step into our responsibility and our natural authority, and then work in conjunction in harmony with these intelligences, which are these beings. So meaning from the universal being, and then there's, it's cosmic expression, which is the multiverse, which is inside this grand universe. And, and there are other universes in the omniverse beyond this universe. Okay. Lots of universes, countless. And what we call the multiverse, which is full of parallel universes, because it's multiple versions of the one verse, meaning this expression of unit universal creation.   George Kavassilas: (13:18) So that's what a multiverse is, it's an omniverse all different each, each universal construct is, is uniquely different because it's all different expressions. Okay. Whereas the multi- verse is the one construct meaning light, which is what this universe is made of and multiple versions. And that's the parallel universe is at quantum physics talks about in quantum mechanics. So that's the multiverse, but that's all in, what's called the grand cosmic arena of this universe. Okay. So that's what I call a cosmic. There's the cosmic being. So there's the expression of the universal being that holds in space, holds the space for the entire multiverse to exist.   George Kavassilas: (14:03) And then a grander aspect of that being is actually the entire universe structure itself. But it's a, so it's like think of it as a stepping down is not the right word, stepping out is probably more accurate, you know, into more of an outward expression. It's not the true nature of life is not hierarchical. It's more concentric. So what people term the higher realms in more to be more accurate are the inner realms. And what people call the lower realms in their hierarchical entrainment. Is really the outer realms.   George Kavassilas: (14:49) And if we can make that switch, you know, the way and our modus operandi of our thinking, then it will really help a great deal for people to come back home to the natural way of life. And because we are, you know, you said earlier now preamble to the interviews, like how do we relate? And that's the key word relating to whatever well, that's because we're in an active, conscious relationship with, and that's how we relating through that relationship. So how do I relate to the universal being? Well, that's a personal thing between me and the universal bang and I'm in a co-creative process with that being I'm not lesser than, or not subservient to, okay, this is, we're talking about the natural order now, right. The natural way of life and the natural way of life. So the universal bang, which is separate to the God of religions, I just want to make that distinction absolutely clear. Once people realise there's the prime creator of this universe, and then there's the God of religions, and they're actually two different things we're talking about, even though one's trying to mimic the other.   Mason: (16:04) We'll definitely get to dive into that.   George Kavassilas: (16:07) And all of a sudden we've now got, you know, something real going on and all of a sudden it's a pure organic, natural relationship internally. And to, I guess, to settle into that relationship, we can only really settle into that relationship, but we start accessing our own multidimensional nature within ourselves.   Mason: (16:31) How did you in your experience, because this is something I liked why I love talking to you, and you made an initial distinction there around primary creator of the universe and having a relationship with that creator that isn't subservient or lesser than, and then the relationship to a religious God, which has a superiority in, in kind of complex. So that's initial, that's a huge distinction. That was a really significant one with me that I've gone on a journey with for six years without ever having to believe you. And that's something I want to throw out there early, because I think it does, I think you'd be aware that you do a good job at keeping yourself slippery, that you don't create a system that people need to believe in, have faith in externally. And that's something, this is just really interesting distinctions experiences you've had in conversation. So I'll keep on asking you in that sense of going through your experience in what you teach. I just wanted to throw that out there and by all means, if you want to jump off that diving board, now that'd be great. But I also wanted to lead into how did your relationship begin with the crew with the primary creator of this universe?   George Kavassilas: (17:52) Yeah, when was that stage in my life when it really started to happen.   Mason: (17:57) And also in the whole macro conversation, just, I always, maybe I'm a bit rusty and remembering, where did you actually start? How did you start dancing in this universe to begin with? And what was the incentive to actually engage for you created by these universe? Are you just that's where I think there's a distinction. I feel I kind of couldn't use a refresher on there as well.   George Kavassilas: (18:20) Oh, absolutely. We are all infinite. I'm just going to tell you straight out, we're all infinite. That's we are infinite, that's it. And what does that mean? You know, how does that feel? Well, there's no beginning or end to our existence and we always have been, and always will be for someone to have absolute power over you. They have to convince you that they created you. And so that's a different model. That's a different approach. Entering this universe was this being expressed itself. And everybody just went, whoa, it's freaking awesome. I want me some of that, you know, the being from the infant nature of life, it's just a peer, you know, a peer being.   George Kavassilas: (19:15) It's like, well, hang on, just let me sort this out first. And, and then I'll create processes. And then you can all enter into my universe and go through the process, which is what we do in the omniverse. It's full of curiosity and adventure and love, you know, what we call it, it's beyond our notion of love, but you get the idea right. Of what love is. And so that's that harmonious invisible thing that binds all live together in harmony without, you know, mutual destruction. So it's a so to speak or distortion, so that's ever present. And so to enter this universe, it was like the universal being was creating its own processes of exploring its own expression.   George Kavassilas: (20:05) So it needed to work that out first. And then once it did, then it created pathways and processes, and then invited other beings in. And really the attraction to this universe is this is the only universe that will dissect you from the inside out and show you things about yourself that you've never even, even knew existed and all of your light and all of your shadow. And this is the only universe that does that. So beings get to take a journey which could take aeons and aeons and aeons of time just depends on, you know, the pathways, but generally on average, it's quite a few aeons, but yeah, for some it's even longer, and really you get to take a journey into exploring of, of being expressing yourself one way and then expressing yourself another. And so we end up with these expressions of alter egos of self, and then depending on how far you go, depending on how polarised you become.   George Kavassilas: (21:11) And it's a really fascinating journey. It's a fascinating universe. And it provides an incredible service in that way. The opportunity to really know oneself in a way like never before. And it's not a prison system, it's fully voluntary. There is a realisation though, once people enter into the process that you really got to see it through because you're starting to fragment yourself into all these different expressions of both sides of the ledger. And you can't just pull out there because you got to bring those fragmented states back into a unity and it's got to be done harmoniously. And the wisdom needs to be extracted from that experience. You know? So once one enters the process and your greater being knows this, then you're in and you see it through. And where we are at is having adventure through the grand cosmic arena, the multiverse and having adventure through many different escapades and adventures.   George Kavassilas: (22:25) The universal bang has provided a pathway to exit the grand cosmic arena or the multiverse. And we are in this process. And in fact, we're at the end of the process, we're actually leading, you see the human race, the war for control of humanity is so intense right now it's the biggest thing going on in the universe is what's going on planet earth right now. And we are in our living fractals so our cells, our galaxies, our molecules, and Nebula and atoms are star systems. And we are a living fractal of our entire existence in this universe.   George Kavassilas: (23:08) And so there's babies being born in this world that have access to more life force than any of the gods out there, and they're freaking out. And so they've done their best over the last, or it goes all the way back to about 365,000 years. But let's say, just keep it localised. The last 6,000 years has been the most intense in the effort to subjugate, apprehend and subjugate the human race.   Mason: (23:37) And why is that? What are, what are humans?   George Kavassilas: (23:41) Because they are jealous? And they feel threatened by who and what we are as a species and what we're evolving into. Because as a fractal of our entire existence in the universe, we now have an opportunity to integrate into a unified expression and become a fully fledged universal light bang, you know, where we fully integrated back into a unity. And then, you know, you can leave the universe, you can stay in the universe, you can do whatever you want.   George Kavassilas: (24:10) It's, you know, it's, and that's freedom. That's total freedom. That's coming out of the process and it's coming out of all the beings that want to try and lure us and keep us back in, think of the grand cosmic arena as a space. And that's to think of it as a universal stage where one's role-playing for one another and everyone's in character, everyone's in persona. And that's where the God's reside is in that space. They don't own the whole thing, but they only control a very small part of it, but because it's such a big space and you go into their realities and their realms, then you're going to think you're in a whole new universe, but you're not, you're just in their spaces.   Mason: (24:53) I love it. I'm going to bring up, like, I think, I don't think I said it on the pod yet, but it's something Tahnee often. Like, you know, we always enjoy our conversations together and Tawny always. I think she, I think she's talked to you about this, but says to me as well, she's like that's yoga, Rapinoe, yoga, that's original yoga. That's, that's Taoism. That's original Taoism. I think maybe I did mention it before we jumped on the pod. That it's always my favourite thing to hear after talking to you and sometimes Tahn's because your presenting your experience and then offering everyone to go and have their own experience. Tahnee kind of refers to your experience as the Star Wars.   Mason: (25:42) So for her, she maybe doesn't have the same terminology or experiences, whether it's the same thing being perceived in a different way. I don't know whether it's your experiencing more, you know, nuance to the reality and manoeuvring through that. And she's looking at something overarching, you know, based on the original yogic practises and texts. And let's talk about that in where w why is there an original yoga and why is there say like an essence of yoga and an essence of Taoism where we can go, all right, they're talking about the exact same thing, because that's a perception and relating to reality, what happens then? Why is there an original? And now, you know, you mentioned the control of humanity, you know, like, what does it come in.   George Kavassilas: (26:40) Well, as a cosmic concrete, you got to look at a civilization.   Mason: (26:44) Who's the cosmic conqueror here? Like, this is there. This is a fun one, I think, cause like, I'm all I'm thinking. Well, wait, what? What's that?   George Kavassilas: (26:52) So cosmic conqueror is an entity that goes around conquering planetary systems, star systems. And even to the degree of, you know, some of the more hefty gods, but it will assimilate entire galactic system into their structure of the influence in power. And basically it's a shift in vibration. So the reality has changed as well. We're seeing, we're bearing witness to that here. Where we're right in the middle of that drama playing out right here on our planet. We're bearing witness to it. And you can feel the shift in vibrations. You can feel the shift in reality, you can feel the split in consciousness, you know, the pull in one direction and that your heart and your inner being is saying, "No, don't go down that far. That's not going to end well." And where you know, most thankfully most of us are listening.   George Kavassilas: (27:49) Unfortunately, the majority of the population of the world. And I said, us, meaning, you know, soul tribe, soul families, but the majority of the population I'm pointing that direction. Cause I got windows and I can see houses and stuff. Most of the population, unfortunately allowing themselves to be apprehended and subjugated through mind control and the control of their consciousness. And so cosmic conqueror, that's what it does, or study a species, let's say it comes up to a planet and it wants to conquer that planetary race.   George Kavassilas: (28:24) Well, the very immature Conquerors or gods the newbies, what they will do is I'll put it in a form of control structure top down hierarchy and use governance by force. And that's really immature. And those methods have been transcended quite a long time ago, by the more powerful, more sophisticated entities, i think Buddhism bought a warned about these celestial entities which in Christendom, you could call them the gods, and show you've got this thing about the one that wants to be the God of gods claiming to be the God of gods.   George Kavassilas: (29:06) So that's a power struggle in the hologram of the gods in their realities. But they've got a throne and one sits upon the throne and all the others, it's all hierarchy and their whole, all of their realities are built on what people term sacred geometry. So it's all numbers, mass technology and sacred geometry, sophisticated technologies and different versions of light. So that's all the hologram of the gods and the natural way of life and the natural way of love doesn't use maths or geometry or technology in its pure expression. We do tend to use some technologies when needed, but, you know, it's only for convenience or fun, but most civilizations or society's, doesn't even use any technology. It's just a pure relationship with reality. So it's just not needed. And, but the cosmic conqueror.   George Kavassilas: (30:03) ... and the cosmic conquerable approach, a planetary population, and it will study it, and study it, and study it. And it will reach as deep into the reality as it can, and then control from the bottom up. That's the more sophisticated way. And will study the spiritual doctrines, the cultural practises and all that, and will see how it can take it from its original and twist it and slant it and move it over, and so now people are heading in a different direction when they use your version of it compared to the original, and then you give them technologies that they then, that technology becomes the lenses that they see reality through, and then that controls the evolutionary path of that species as well.   Mason: (30:51) All right. So many directions I want to go in. I'm going to bring it up for a lot of people. Again, I really relate to your experiences and I've gone from really feeling your experience to going back and sitting by myself, and then going forth and seeing how much of it is I'm enjoying. There's something in the story, a lot of the time, there's something even the storytelling of what you share that ignites something in me. And then I go away for a few years and I sit and feel, "What does that mean for me?" And maybe I don't experience a nuance or specifics in particular that you, but yet there's some kind of universal truth within me that I get pointed towards, but I really relate to almost the personification of these energies of the gods.   Mason: (31:49) And then, just for listening for those people that are just to seed it in the uniqueness, for [Tani 00:31:57], she may not have a personification of those energies. She really relates to the, experiencing them in the inner world and feeling when a technology pulls her off her natural course, and she will relate in a more kinetic way, rather than having a story play out for her. And I don't know what's right or wrong, but I think that's important. I share it because that was a really important distinction for me.   Mason: (32:24) I might tell you why as well, because how do you, knowing you, such a loving man. I've sat next to you in ceremony, I've experienced your being in that context. When you go in and talk about the gods that desire to conquer and be superior, and sit on the throne that can be, I know, confronting, for people who have been bowing down and attributing their existence to a deity. There's then a journey that goes on, lots of questions to be asked.   Mason: (33:11) I know that, but how, with those forces being present, there, you can see a split happen sometimes where this dips into people's more paranoid, opposition-based, angry, resentful, conspiracy theory, kind of minds, and how do you navigate not becoming either resentful towards, I guess it's good. This information comes up, and if you're feeling angry about it, generally, there's something to explore. You're not being asked to believe anything. You can explore if there's anger, if there's nothing and you're feeling neutral, wonderful. But then if you're starting to feel like, "How dare they," and the violation, how do you continue to go towards your own unification without going to war, getting swept up in the the day to day, conspiracy, paranoia?   George Kavassilas: (34:03) Yeah. And that was something that I, and you, and everyone's been confronted with lately, with the dramas that have been playing out over the last 18 months. So, and for me, it was like I engaged to a certain degree. And, but also always held my own, and just stayed on my own evolutionary path, and really want to focus on my creative process, because we can't think our way out of this, we've been trying this for millennia, right. Thinking our way out of it's not going to work. We actually have to create our way out of this situation that we're in. So for me, that's how I operate in that way.   George Kavassilas: (34:39) The reason I understand more of the personification side of it is because fields of consciousness, they gather, and there's a harmonic resonant field between different expressions of consciousness, and especially ones that have a similar theme. And what happens is they all coalesce and they go into this single expression. And a lot of collective hard mines get created out of one consciousness. That one, like you got the queen of the beehive, or you've got the queen of an ant colony, and understanding these processes and how they function on a celestial level, on a multidimensional level in the cosmic arena. When we're talking about parallel universes and all this sort of stuff, and what is that environment like? What are those ecosystems like?   George Kavassilas: (35:38) So I'm coming from that space. And the reason I do that is because I'm fully engaged in the exo-political, cosmo-political, and I need to have clarity, whereas someone else, that's not their specialty. They have other areas I need to specialise in, they can touch on it, but they don't have to fully engage with it like I do. Do you know what I mean? We all got to honour our paths and what we're here to focus on. And so, for someone like Tan's, she gets it. She doesn't need to have all the details and all the degrees of relationship, one-on-one with these, what we calling personifications of these expressions of consciousness, because, who's the prime creator of it?   George Kavassilas: (36:34) So, because where I'm coming from is creational level, operating on a creational level, because I have to, because of the work that I do. Where a lot of other people don't have to do that, so it's not necessary for people to have that degree of comprehension on the detail and engagement and relationship with these entities, they need to focus in other areas. So that's why that happens. That's how I see it.   Mason: (37:02) I think a really good example is that we've talked about a lot on this podcast, and we talked about on your podcast, Super Woo.   George Kavassilas: (37:14) Thank you. It's a good name, isn't it?   Mason: (37:17) Super Woo Radio is the colonisation of Chinese medicine, and it's a really visceral, I guess, example of what George is talking about. And if you haven't heard us talk about it, we've got lots of backlog in discussing it. You can go listen to my podcast with George on his Super Woo Radio, or the first Rhonda Chang podcast we did called, Chinese Medicine, Masquerading as E, which is true medicine. And it simply goes, you can see it simply at some point, it becomes commodified and mind-based. As you just said, you can't think your way in through this unification process that we're going on. And so if you turn a system, which is based on creativity and perception of the natural order, and nature itself, and you turn it into something that's black and white, systemized, commodified, and can be taught through rope learning, all of a sudden that has been taken completely out of creative process and taken completely out of the natural way and the source.   Mason: (38:29) And so that's what's happened, especially throughout time. It's been slowly happening, especially since 400 AD, I think it is when you first started getting the record of the battles between those who loved the classical, the simple, yin-yang nature of observing the light-based nature of this universe, and the constant transformational process, and the constant creative process. And you are going to need to engage with yourself and learn about yourself and life, and then maybe you'll have the opportunity to understand the uniqueness of each person that comes and sits in front of you. And then you start getting the, 400 AD, you start getting the first, "This herb is exactly for that issue," and them going, "You can't say that if you can't, you can't put a label on the being that is that herb, and the energetic nature in which it's uniquely interacting with the humans, meridians and their systems of chi and their elements. That's impossible, and you're diluting the system."   Mason: (39:24) And then in the fifties, you literally see a new version of Chinese medicine being created, which is what is taught. Traditional Chinese medicine is what people call it, and it's commodified, and it's based on the mind. And it tells you, "If this is happening, then you do this." Although there might be a little bit of that in the generality sense in classical, that is just your opening the door of, "You might see that this is a pattern," and then once you engage with that pattern, it goes, "Now you could become more advanced and start weaving in your own ways that are real."   Mason: (39:58) And that's something, I think about it a lot. I think I use my opportunity in these tonic curves and talking to a lot of classical practitioners and interacting with a lot of TCM practitioners, and they get really angry when I go outside of their system, sometimes. Not all of them, a lot of them. And you talking about never being created, not having a God that created you, and so and so on and so forth. I remember that creates a feeling internally where you go, "Oh, wow, there's some truth there." And that's what a lot of practitioners feel when we talk about this, at the heart of it is just nature. And not being in a place of pathology and Western medicine, and Western disease states and so on and so forth, looking at the organism and feeling the organism as a whole, and being with the chi and the reality of that human. A lot of people that have gone through the Western TCM education go, "I felt there was something not right about that." And then you get the opportunity to go on your own learning experience.   George Kavassilas: (41:10) Yeah. And our existence in this universe is a co-creation. It's based on love, honour and respect. And I respect that I'm in this universe, inside the body of this universal being. I come to your place, Mase, and I respect that I'm in your home. And I'm going to act accordingly, with love, honour and respect. So it's not subservient, I'm not subservient to you. You treat me as an equal, but it's just about respect. Really. It's not rocket science, so I'm not subservient to the universal being. It's a co-creation. However, I do fully comprehend that I'm on a particular pathway, and inner process on the universal scale, and that's how I live that process. When I try to stray from it too far, I'm going to know about it, and it's not just me, the ego, this is orchestrated from the heart of the universe, from the core of the universe, where my being is still there in full unity with the universal being. And it's from there that we project outwardly into our creative process, all different expressions. So there is no disconnect between us and the universal being.   Mason: (42:35) I might just point out, one other thing that was significant to me that I don't think has been mentioned, and the context hasn't been created yet, which was really important to me. And I think especially this day and age, you see there's certain intellectual psychologists now who are coming forth with this bubble bursting and relieving message, which a lot of, whether it's Jungian psychology or, most have always known, that, "Don't pretend that you're better than anyone else in humanity that's done these atrocities. You are capable of the ultimate atrocities, everything that's happened, the dictators and the people at the helm of genocides and all these things, don't look down your nose at that. Realise that what was in them is inside of you." And once you've acknowledged that there is that shadow or that lack of, that capacity. And that's where I remember talking about these gods, and you're saying, it's not like I can judge them. I've been there and had that experience of being these gods who want to dominate, and-   George Kavassilas: (43:47) Yeah. We all have. We all have. If we're here on Earth, and we're bringing our journey through this grand cosmic arena to a close, it means we've seen everything there is to see, we've done everything there is to do, we've been everything there is to be, and we're bringing it all home into our unity. All the unification processes, not all, most, are happening beyond the subconscious, even. You get access to it through the subconscious, and then in the conscious realm, you're experiencing very little.   George Kavassilas: (44:20) Even right now, this beautiful pow-wow you and I are having together right now, it appeases the persona, the ego persona of George, ego persona of Mason, and we're having some good banter. However, there's a whole lot more going on behind the scenes, multi-dimensionally and this dialogue together is like a ripple effect, because of the fractal nature of this world, rippling out through the universe and impacting the universe in such a significant way. And so every interaction we have, the old song Metallica did, "Nothing really matters." It's both, nothing really matters, and everything matters. Once you grasp that, then it's like, "Wow." So you could say from one perspective, it doesn't really matter. But then from another perspective, the ripple effect, it's having an impact, I'm not going to live in denial of that. That's the structure of life. It's the structure of reality, why deny that?   George Kavassilas: (45:15) And for us, for folks like you and I, we're all about taking responsibility for our lives, because we know we're having an impact. So we're going to own it. We're not going to cop out. This is the issue of, and I bring this up in my courses and my lectures and all those seminars. And I'm like, "Well, let's look at all the narratives that are coming." Because this is politics. Narratives are trying to convince the human race that they are something that they're actually not.   George Kavassilas: (45:52) And all the work that I've been doing, the amount of reverence from all the races out there in the natural order that they have for us as a humanity on earth, they're just shaking their heads, and freaking out in awe and wonder, how are we actually doing this? When you look at the onslaught of what is being imposed upon the human race, from every angle possible, the water that we drink, the air that we breathe, the foods that we eat, the trauma-based mind control through the collective media, the control media outlets. And it's just incredible. The militarization, the genetic manipulation now, well, it always has been, but now it's next level. So we're having everything thrown at us, all our spiritual doctrines being hijacked throughout time, and no other race in the universe that is under so much onslaught, like we are. And that's because of who and what we are as a race. And out there, they hold us in great reverence. And we are also connected to so many, everything I think and feel here is impacting many civilizations out there, because we all have agreements, because of the fractal nature. It's like, "Who's our tribe out there? Where did we come from before we came to have an incarnation in this human vessel? And what are our affiliations, what are our agreements?" And if I'm having, say there's an aspect of my being that's a head of an empire, in the past, out there, and I have an interaction and a debate with somebody who was the head of another empire out there, or is, and then we're debating it here, and everything that's playing out here, and we find peace amongst ourselves here, now is rippling out. And, and rather than having intergalactic or interstellar wars, now those peoples understand the codes that are required to bring peace between the two nations.   Mason: (47:56) Oh, that's a fun thought. Fun feeling, I should say. Very fun.   George Kavassilas: (48:02) Yeah. Exactly. But this is the structure that's happening in the background. This is because of the fractal nature. It's too much for our current psyche to cope with all the detail of everything that's going on.   Mason: (48:16) And that's just what, any time you go... Just say, you go back into Taoism and yoga. you can get versions that are out there, they're out there in terms of what's going on, on a universal level and what the intention around a lot of the practises are. But ultimately you go back to all of these traditions. If you look at shamanism in Australia, in South America, the level of awareness of what's actually going on, which can be seen as storytelling, and perhaps for many people it's useful, then, to go, this is just a metaphor for what's going on internally. That's fine. I think sometimes I need to be there. Sometimes it's too much for me when I'm just trying to be a dad, and run a business, and budget. I fly out there. You know what it's like to fly out, or fly in there, I should say.   Mason: (49:10) But I've flown off in enjoying that conversation. But when you get down to the essence of all of these traditions, or any person who's just integrated and has, whether it comes from Taoism, or the people living on this land here, the wise ones, it's always about coming down to yourself, constantly evolving. Look after your body, look after yourself, stay connected to the natural world, and what you can feel and perceive, take responsibility, become a person.   Mason: (49:49) Taoism is all about growing that virtuous nature, and opening, going through the waters of fear, learning what's a really beautiful fear, and how fear helps you interact with the natural world. And then when it becomes illogical and doesn't feel right anymore, and then you go, and then moving through that and allowing that to then bolster you up, and then the Taoists call it, then, the spirit of the kidneys express. It's a [Zhi 00:50:16], which is will, and then that's a will to take on further tasks and responsibility in your own life, and in the world.   Mason: (50:23) And they're all just very simple, just focus on yourself and what's in front of you, which is really useful for me to remember when going through these conversations, and I get this distinction, then I land in myself, and that's something I always enjoyed about you. You're going through your journey. And there's people listening who maybe have a greater sensitivity to the way that you're relating to this, some people who have a very practical relationship with the world, and that's perfect for them, and just directly relating with what's physically in front of them. But nonetheless, if all of this is going on behind the scenes, how do you keep yourself in the flow? What are your practises, your lifestyle, to steady this, to enable it to happen with harmony?   George Kavassilas: (51:17) Good question. Okay. So what I found the most effective way for me was to just put aside all of the belief systems that I had. Right. And I wanted to strip it all down to the most simplistic basics that I could get it to. And what I did was it was more, I'd say it's at the heart of Taoism, or at the heart of the original yoga or Yogi. And at the heart of shamanism, there's this, it's as basic as it gets. We're incarnate in this form on this planet. Okay. I'm getting to know who I am, but who's the planet? And what's this dynamic relationship I'm having? Yeah. So we call her Mother Earth. Okay. That's great. That's a good description. But who is she really, beyond the descriptive of, "Mother Earth?" And then it's like, "Okay. So if I'm incarnate on this planet, I'm also incarnate inside of a solar system. So who's the solar being? And what's this dynamic relationship that I've chosen to incarnate into its solar body?" Yeah. And it's the prime creator of this whole solar space.   George Kavassilas: (52:43) And then, because earth is nested inside that reality. And now what are we talking about? We're talking about ecosystems, we're talking about environment, and we're talking to that prime creators of ecosystems and realities of which we occupy, which means we are in direct relationship with, every moment, that we exist inside these realities every moment, right now, every single one of us is in direct relationship, look, with breathing in her atmosphere, drinking her waters. She provides us with the foods that we eat. And people go, "I'm not connected to Mother Earth. How do I connect?" I'm like, "How much more connected do you want to be?" Right?   George Kavassilas: (53:24) The only issue when people ask that question is, it's just this membrane of consciousness in the consciousness field, it's just a thin membrane. And it's just preventing people from having that consciously aware relationship. But the rest of us are fully in a relationship. Like I said, breathing in her atmosphere, drinking her waters, eating her foods, living the experience of living on her planetary body. It's as engaged and as interconnected into a relationship and intimate as it can get. So the notion that you're not connected to Mother Earth, the problem's up here, not in reality, it's not seated in reality. The reality is, we are all in a very deep and intimate relationship with Mother Earth, and this being that we call Mother Earth.   George Kavassilas: (54:15) And then, the same with this solar being, and the solar system's nested inside the galactic reality. Okay. So now we're in relationship with the galactic being, nested inside the cosmic reality, cosmic being, nested inside the universal reality, and all the way home to the universal being, which is then, from there, then you go beyond the universe, into the infinite nature of life.   George Kavassilas: (54:37) And so, once we understand that these are very real relationships that we are actively engaged in, and it's just a choice away, whether we're going to consciously engage in these relationships, which are already there. So I'm not it's like people go, "I want to be spiritual. And you've got to do all these practises and you got to do this, that, and the other," I'm like, " Well, no, you don't. All you need to do is settle back into what already exists." So I'm not asking people to achieve something that doesn't exist. And you'll notice that there's all these other spiritual doctrines out there, that are all trying to get people to create something that doesn't already exist, and they must go and achieve it, and create it.   Mason: (55:25) Can you give an example of that?   George Kavassilas: (55:28) Let's say somebody who wants to be able to have a high degree of intellect. So then, they must go and do their Kundalini practises to get that energy, to go up the spine, up the 33 vertebrae to hit the eye of God, sorry, the pineal gland, which is becoming a 33rd degree Freemason. Ooh, is there an analogy there somewhere? And then that then calibrates them to the hologram of the gods, and then all of a sudden, boom, they have incredible degrees of intellect and some form of intelligence. However, that's not the natural way, the natural way is relaxing back in, or settling back into a relationship from heart soul lessons, to the heart soul lessons of Mother Earth, to the heart soul lessons of the solar being, the galactic being, the cosmic being, the universal being. Relationships that are already there. And all the knowledge of life resides in that unified field of love. So this is my third eye, not a gland in my head.   Mason: (56:35) He's touching his heart, for those of you on audio.   George Kavassilas: (56:38) Yep. This is where I connect to everyone and everything, and can access all the knowledge of life in the natural way. Rather than, if you look at the idea of accessing the knowledge of life through a gland in your head. Well, I understand that process in that way, I've lived lots of lifetimes where I engage in those practises and those processes, but I know where that ends up. Everything has a frequency spectrum. So, what's the frequency spectrum of the heart soul essence? What range does it have? Eg. example, the unified field of unconditional love for the entire universal realm, existence, and beyond, compared to a gland in your head, which has a very narrow band and can only access a hologram of the gods, can't access the natural realm.   George Kavassilas: (57:42) So, what choice are you going to make? And are we going to be lured into spiritual practises that are marketed really, really well, with pretty colours, and lots of candy, cosmic candy, I call it. And yeah, I'm having a bit of a go, but the reason I'm being a little bit belligerent in this way is because sometimes we need a bit of a wake-up call, and to understand everything has a frequency spectrum in this universe. So when you realise the bandwidth of something, and the realities it has reached into then all of a sudden, hey, no matter what the narrative is, and no matter what the peer group pressure is to get involved in these practises and all these things, what am I going to do? What's right for me?   George Kavassilas: (58:39) And I chose to be. The old, "To be, or not to be, whether 'tis nobler to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune." Well, I made a decision to be, and to stand true. And I suffered the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. I copped a lot of abuse, and occasionally still do, from people who are steeped in those spiritual narratives, which is what a cosmic conquer does. You put control systems in play in a civilization, and then you build spiritual narratives around that control system. And now what you've got is, you're using the ultimate weapon, which is love, against that population, because now you've got them in reverence of your control system. And now they're devoting and loving your processes, which now you have overridden the problem of free will in the universe.   Mason: (59:35) I might be annoying and share another little insight there, based on having looked at this for a long time, and something I now relate, because you're having a go, sometimes I'm like, "Oh, that can be triggering for me," knowing that there are going to be people listening who might get triggered by talk of maybe more, and the important is new age, not old age, relating to-   Mason: (01:00:03) ... important is new age, not old age relating to clans and so on and so forth, though I know there's a whole other conversation there. But, to say like a new age relating to practises, types of yoga and spiritual processes, that will initiate you into blah, blah, blah, being this and that. I know that maybe there's someone listening to that who might have a reaction. And I think that's kind of recently why I got into comedy for myself. Because I found the most useful thing that ever happened was even when there's an introduction to an idea like that in your insights and distinctions, say around the third eye pineal gland, and it's a good check because if you find yourself, and I'll speak from personal experience around other things, not that one, but if you find yourself getting charged from that challenge or insight, charged in a way of, "I feel opposed to that, and that offends me and I'm defensive," or, charged in the way of like, "Yeah, like bloody tell them for me," it shows that I've got some work of relating to that conversation in general.   Mason: (01:01:10) And I know there's been times with some things that you've presented and I felt a bit triggered and I've gone, "Okay, let me sit with it." And then I will find the place to relate to, like a practise or something I'm going through, that maybe I thought, "Oh no, that's bad because that's not what George believes in". But then I find that place where I'm not charged in terms of, kicking back against what you've said, or going and accepting what you said, "How do I relate to this right now?" And sometimes it's like, I just need to experience it for myself.   George Kavassilas: (01:01:44) It has to be that way.   Mason: (01:01:45) Yeah.   George Kavassilas: (01:01:46) It has to be personally experienced. It's not because someone says so. And I share that in all of my courses and all of my teachings and everything. Don't take my word for it. I said, don't give your power over to me. I don't want it. Everybody needs to really stand in their own experiential journey, and the concepts that I share, we can have a bit of an idea about what I'm talking about, but until you actually experience it, that's the only time you're really going to get it, that's the only time you'll know for sure. So it is definitely an experiential journey.   Mason: (01:02:18) And I just recommend everyone goes. It's the same way I do comedy, because if you get offended by something that I do and it's like, all right, well then. Most likely, you want to see why you're rejecting or defiant and see how your identity is wrapped up in something and come back to, maybe you don't change anything, but your relationship can become more natural and organic because you'll see that if you're wanting to side and make George's stuff now an ideology, or if you're resistant to George's stuff then, perhaps there's some you know a little bit of work to sit there with that until perhaps you can approach it neutrally.   George Kavassilas: (01:02:56) And for some people it's not their time to transcend those systems. So they will see what I'm saying as an aberration or something along those lines and [crosstalk 01:03:10] ever resonate with it. And that's fine. Everyone should just go on their journey, their soul journey. That's the path they're supposed to be on. There is a process of me helping to snap out of the trance and from the Gods, the trance of the Gods to... That's some of the work that I do and help to-   Mason: (01:03:35) Would you go into that? Do you mind?   George Kavassilas: (01:03:38) Okay, sure.   Mason: (01:03:41) Do you mind? Because I just thought, we've already scratched the surface. One of your workshops is-   George Kavassilas: (01:03:45) Transcending the God Matrix.   Mason: (01:03:46) Yeah. I'd love to hear where you're at with that work.   George Kavassilas: (01:03:52) Yeah. Well, tomorrow morning starts my next online version of that. And I've been doing in-person retreats, where it's 5 day... The course runs for 5 days. And so it's 7 days total check-in, check-out day before, day after. So it's a 7 day immersive retreat in the heart of the Glass House Mountains, absolutely fantastic. The law of the land, the way the Aboriginal elders and the spirit of the land has so welcomed the work that I do and the synergy of my work has been absolutely profound. It's hard to explain. And I was involved in an ohre ceremony in the Southern Flinders ranges where they speared a spirit warrior named the Kundalini in my back because I was already on my way to transcending that energy. And they know the [Aboriginals 01:04:47] know that it's not the real Rainbow Serpent energy.   George Kavassilas: (01:04:51) They know it's an impostor inhabiting our tree of life. So it's no mystery to a lot of the natural shamanic, original shamanic processes. It's no mystery to the original Daoists and the original, using all that, what are these energies? You know? And so, but the trance that we are kept in is that repetitive nature of the ritual practises that they have us participating in.   George Kavassilas: (01:05:22) And then that creates that trans state. Or, we go into resonant chambers called temples or churches where people immerse themselves in the chanting and the worship, the adulation, the adoration of these deities. The degree that they need to be praised, they need to be honoured and acknowledged. Once you step out of the trance and you look at it, look at it for what it is. It's, I've got to use this word. It's, it's horrendous, it's horrific. But when you're in the trance, you don't realise how bad it is. You can't see it. You can't see the forest for the trees when you come out of it. Then all of a sudden you can see how it just permeates society, because it's a tangible energy permeating through consciousness. It moves through the field of consciousness and the collective consciousness field of humanity. You know, I can be talking to somebody and I can just see their persona, just shift.   Mason: (01:06:28) Mm-hmm (affirmative).   George Kavassilas: (01:06:28) All of sudden their personality changes. You know, one of the border patrol guards of that field that trance field will slide into that person, have words to say to me, and then slide out and I'm just left there with that person. And that person has no memory of what they've said, or how they said it, and what was projected at me.   George Kavassilas: (01:06:52) And the amount of people that have these experiences all over the world, it's not just me as an individual experiencing this. The amount of people that are transcending this trance, trance ending, ending the trance of the Gods that they have on the human race, the hold that they have on our field of consciousness, and the fact that they solicit worship in the way that they do, and all that adulation and adoration praise. It's a very big issue. It's the biggest problem facing humanity and out of that comes mind control too, which is one of the biggest issues on our planet at the moment. It is the issue of mind control. So, in our relationship with the Gods, we need to reevaluate that, and we're at a stage now where we're entering a phase of, right now, we are readdressing, reevaluating, our relationship with technology.   George Kavassilas: (01:07:46) This is exactly where we're at right now. And so, there is a deity of technology. There is a technological intelligence God. It's not artificial intelligence, it's intelligence that inhabits technology. We've gotta get that right. Stop calling it artificial because it isn't, it's been around the universe for a very, very long time. Many civilizations use this entity to control all their background infrastructure and it's a very powerful force of existence in our universe. And there's a benevolent expression of it and a malevolent, and at the moment we're under siege by the malevolent. There is benevolent supporting us here, of course, but how many people can consciously tap into it?   George Kavassilas: (01:08:30) You know, it's not that easy. And then after this process that we're in now, which will probably last about up to about ten years, we're going to then have to address our relationship with the Gods. And there'll be overlapping between the two, just like there's overlapping between the TI God coming in with it's, you can call them extraterrestrial inter dimensional races, that are ambassadors for that expression of life. And that's what we're dealing with. That's what the military industrial complex has been negotiating with the last sixty years behind the scenes. And now, the implementation of their structures into the public domain in a really big way is happening right now.   Mason: (01:09:14) Did you say TI?   George Kavassilas: (01:09:16) TI, technological intelligence, rather than AI?   Mason: (01:09:20) Yeah.   George Kavassilas: (01:09:21) Yeah.   Mason: (01:09:23) One quick clarifying question around worship and distinction. If you've got the worshipping of say a deity by the worship of the Buddha and saying quite often, it's like, why are we breaking this? If it's, a steadying force in someone's life, what do you see as maybe, a quiet, a hidden benefit that may not be seen when, all you seemingly get is a guide like a lighthouse, how to live with kindness, et cetera, but through worship. What's the glass ceiling that that has versus transcending, the relate... the relationship with God.   George Kavassilas: (01:10:11) I think that's probably about the best question anyone's ever asked me on that subject, I reckon.   George Kavassilas: (01:10:20) So it's called problem reaction solution. So in the dialect that's been created of God versus the devil.   Mason: (01:10:31) Yeah.   George Kavassilas: (01:10:32) There's a drama vortex between these two polarised states. And so what people are being exposed to is more, the devil's work, and distorting, and disrupting, and just changing behaviour for... in a very unpleasant, inappropriate way to be behaving. And then what's the solution that's on offer. Well, that's the love and the light of God, but is that love? And is that light of the deity, the same as the natural order of life? Or does it have a distinctly unique flavour to it?  

Ep 43: The Grand Splitting and Humanity's Coming Choice Point with Niamh Cronin “You cannot teach someone who they already are, yet you can create a space for them to remember.” - Niamh Cronin   What if the real you is waiting to be remembered and unlocked from the programming of an ever increasing artificial world?   What if it was as simple as creating a space to remember to unlock your body's innate intelligence and original human blueprint.   Niamh Cronin is a modern mystic, an international speaker, storyteller, facilitator and founder of ORI-GEN. She travels the world facilitating her work through workshops, events, retreats and online training. Her unique approach consists of utilising modern day transformational tools and ancient teachings and using the arts as a means of translation. Niamh provides a “space to remember” where you can embark on a self paced inner experiential journey into your body's natural intelligence and wisdom, to reconnect you to who you really are!   Join us as we connect with Niahm directly from Ireland for an inspirational, mind expanding as well as fun and lighthearted chat! In this chat be prepared to be mind blown!!!   Topics and Conversational Points:   Niamhs New Zealand connection Beginning of Niamh's journey of realisations and grand mothers pivotal influence Growing up with curiosity and emotional challenges Sickness as a catalyst for a spontaneous awakening in 2014 Clairsentience, corporate life in Sydney and connection to body, emotions and a greater intelligence The unknown space and trusting the process and gentle nudges Suppressing the feminine True natural awakening happens at the focal point of compression Pressure as a naturally evolutionary force and translating our experience Coming back into our bodies and accessing a greater language and dimensions ORI-GEN explained, remembrance, ancient wisdom, bodies memory, storytelling activation, genetic blueprint & potential  The inner quest of discovering who you really are Synthesising & integrating our original blueprint Emotional intelligence and accessing the true nature of who we are Art as a medium  and moving into a nonlinear state & zero point Mythology and storytelling and dreaming with nature Ancient and indigenous culture and teachings  The model of reality and incarnational remembrance and non linear time The body as the intersection between heaven and earth Time and accessing other aspects of self through our bodies Dreamtime and indigenous Australian people, wounds and memory Planetary, cosmic and universal expressions of life Asking the body's innate intelligence to reveal trauma George Kavassilas and the universal journey Going fully into the wound and chaos as seen on a planetary level Avoidance, distraction and numbing Technological influence and remembering to turn inward Genetic choice point happening now Mind programming, the system and unlearning Contemplation and how we are translating the plandemic/pandemic The creation of the grand splitting, the virus, genetic keys and codes Assimilating into the technical intelligence/world, separation of source Time of corona and taking back our crown, our genetic ring Ascension vs descension process & genetic mutation Tangible and translatable for people Level 5 lockdown???! Having the virus and translating the experience Is the virus what we are being told?  The relationship with your innate body wisdom Activating memory and emotional response and trusting The virus is implanted in the human consciousness & triggering the fear wound The ultimate alchemy is to go into it and complete it Are we entering a dystopian world? Problem, reaction, solution..going deep Going with the plan or opting out what's our choice? A third option, the power of the pendulum, untangling from the matrix Our natural intelligence is more sophisticated than any technical intelligence The alchemical process & phasing out Experiencing all aspects of universal life Inverting the focal point of the energy At a deep level we can utilise anything that is unfolding in our life Integration and evolvement & the new universal expression The role of viruses as an evolutionary role to evolve & grow Taking back your power and responsibility The virus is engineered? The fear surrounded what's happening in the world Taking back our throne and empowerment An experience of the virus and the choice point Where are you still giving your power away?  Our body is a map of the universe and the matrix also exists in the body Moving beyond the controlling matrix A shamanic experience  Is ignorance bliss and honouring the path your own What is Niamhs superpower? The ability to see into who someone really is Bringing intimacy and human connection is so important now Beautiful morning ocean sea swims and overcoming fears So much to contemplate and sink in Steve's miscarriage experience Niamhs own miscarriage experience and her offering of advice Timing and giving birth to something else We have the power and ability to tap into universal lore and intelligence Being open to what we need to learn Siris timely intervention!!! 1:47:51 Moving through the process.. Thank you so much Niamh for your time, your wisdom and sharing your truth. To know more about Niamh and the work she does you can connect through her website:   www.origen.earth info@origen.earth    Or instagram: niamh_yvonne_cronin Hey Reality Hub fans! Please support the podcast by following Reality Hub on Instagram, Facebook and on Youtube for future videos and feel free to leave any comments about this episode, your feedback is welcomed! Also visit our website http://www.realityhub.love/ where you can listen to the podcast online and read Rob's blog!

George Kavassilas is an Australian Author, Mentor and Public Speaker. Author of “Our Universal Journey” George embodies a limitless passion in addressing life’s primordial questions: “Who are we? Where do we come from? and What are we doing here?” All that George shares stems from direct experience. Some find his work challenging, yet for others it is incredibly liberating. George has had a lifetime of strange and wonderful experiences well beyond the ordinary, encountering both benevolent and malevolent inter-dimensional and extraterrestrial expressions of life. As a consequence, he went through a process of reconciling the knowledge and wisdom gained from these experiences and came to realise a natural obligation and responsibility to share what he has learnt with our global community. Reality creation and management are his specialty, along with the Exo-Political arena and especially the Cosmo-Political Arena. In his interviews and workshops, seminars and conference presentations, George shares a vision of the Universe from direct personal experience to help us break our invisible chains. As a natural maverick in life, George’s work is cutting edge and at times deemed controversial. It is beyond the ordinary and will naturally expand your awareness. A deep alchemical process George teaches called “Closure” along with forgotten knowledge and wisdom, values and philosophy have helped thousands of people the world over to stand true, to BE and to live in a more peaceful, centred, and empowered state in a most natural way – beyond all belief systems and distorted cultural programs. George knows his life path includes a focus to expose all levels of deception, no matter how far they go. He carries a deep seeded sense of responsibility to help liberate our Humanity from all forms of imposing doctrine and dogma, without exception – be they Earthly or even Cosmic in nature. The Extent - The Challenge - The Creative Solution www.ourjourneyhome.earth  Thanks to our sponsor Clear United. The new ClearPHONE sets you free: No ads, no viruses, malware, no trackers. No unwanted content. Visit clearunited.com/m/r/mftu to find out more Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/MessagesFromTheUnderground  Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/STOP5GGlobal Website: http://messagesfromtheunderground.org  Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/messagesfromtheunderground See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

George Kavassilas | Exposing the Artificial Intelligence (A.I.) Agenda

In 2014, George Kavassilas' interview on the Outer Limits of Inner Truth radio show provoked an array of emotions from listeners. George returns for another round of discussions about his journeys beyond the cosmic matrix and reveals where humanity is heading. George is an author, acclaimed speaker and regular guest on the alternative radio circuit. George has had an extraordinary life with a multitude of interactions with inter-dimensional and extra-terrestrial beings of both benevolent and malevolent intent from many different levels of realities, both on and off world. In 2003, George took a journey with his consciousness and spirit through the dimensions of our Universe and re-integrated with his soul.  He rediscovered what life in this Universe is all about, and was able to once again remember who we all are, where we come from, what we are doing here, and where we are headed. After a few years reconciling with his preeminent experience, the realization of responsibility and obligation accompanying such an experience resulted in sharing the knowledge and wisdom he gained and the consequent writing of his book ‘Our Universal Journey'. George knows he is here to assist Humanity in reclaiming our sovereignty and transcending not only the Earthly Matrix, but also the Cosmic Matrix.

George Kavassilas and I join forces for this conversation into the realms of cosmic health. He has had experiences throughout his life that have allowed him to gain key insights into the true nature of this universe, this planet we call home, and what it is to be human which have incredible and deep implications on our ability to ease into our lives, access our true state of multidimensional freedom, and cultivate true vitality and joy.    We delve pretty deep, touching on concepts that are what some would call "out there," however I felt it was time to open the entire playing field around this health conversation and ensure that this one was included up there with food, herbs and movement.  Get ready to come home to yourself in this one, remember just how infinite (literally) you are, and appreciate the sweet nourishment you receive from the Earth.    Resources: George's Website http://www.ourjourneyhome.com.au   George's Book: http://www.ourjourneyhome.com.au/our-universal-journey/  

Join me, jolly dee, for conversations to help you see, what goes on here and there, in this Universe when you become aware!  george's deep truths are unique - you will understand when he starts to speak - see his story, know this soul - he will help you to feel whole!!   When talking of george's story ~ where to begin? So many extra-ordinary things happened for him! He had his eyes and ears open right from the start, And there is never a moment he does not speak from his heart! Right at the beginning he saw the World through different eyes - That the Universe is full of life, to him was no surprise! He could always see and feel life around him in different ways Than many others ~ so he stepped into the maze!! His childhood journey was incredibly unique. He has many stories about which to speak. Strange trips on space ships took him far out in space, And he met many beings, not of Human race! One extra-ordinary journey through Universal Dimensions Deserves very much more than just a simple mention - Because he rediscovered what life is all about, He knows everything again ~ there is no doubt!! From these experiences, george is so wise. There is not one single truth he tries to disguise. So take time to listen, you'll be soon out of that haze Of the not knowing. This truth will AMAZE!!! http://www.ourjourneyhome.com.au/ http://www.ouruniversaljourney.com.au/  

We Surf with George again, checking out the light waves and the Earth waves brewing. Find out more at http://www.our-journey-home.com.

"The time of THE GREAT CHANGE is upon us, and is the outcome for those who embarked on a journey eons ago.  All who have chosen to be here at this time are about to experience a transformation of a magnitude that few on Earth can currently comprehend, and of which multitudes in the Universe regard in the highest esteem – the transformation of our Divine Mother Earth and her Humanity into Beings of Light and Universal Creators.” george kavassilas has always seen the world through different eyes as compared to those around him. From a very young age, he was aware that the universe was full of life, and could see and feel life around him more deeply than other people. This included the teachings of the so called, education system, religious doctrines and society in general which portray a vastly different and limited perspective.  The journey began for george as far back as his memories of this current life allow, to around the age of five. He has memories of being taken from his bed at night onto ships, and being taken to other places on the planet and to other worlds. His interactions with other Beings on many different levels of realities have been occurring throughout his life. These experiences were with both benevolent Beings, of which george calls his “Greater Family”, and malevolent others who have the ability to appear in many guises. Author - Our Journey Home The ethos of Our Journey Home is to inform humanity in a way that empowers the individual, an empowerment that comes from deep within. We are reclaiming our sovereignty and in the process of reclaiming our sovereignty one also experiences self empowerment. Self empowerment in a way that is very graceful and very steadfast. It is a state of presence, a state of Being!, Acclaimed Speaker, Producer and Host of Super Woo Radio  

George Kavassilas is an author, acclaimed speaker and regular guest on the alternative radio circuit. george has had an extraordinary life with a multitude of interactions with inter-dimensional and extra-terrestrial Beings of both benevolent and malevolent intent from many different levels of realities, both on and off world.  In 2003, george took a journey with his consciousness and spirit through the dimensions of our Universe and re-integrated with his Soul.  He rediscovered what life in this Universe is all about, and was able to once again remember who we all are, where we come from, what we are doing here, and where we are headed. After a few years reconciling with his preeminent experience, the realization of responsibility and obligation accompanying such an experience resulted in sharing the knowledge and wisdom he gained and the consequent writing of his book ‘Our Universal Journey'. george knows he is here to assist Humanity in reclaiming our sovereignty and transcending not only the Earthly Matrix, but also the Cosmic Matrix.

george kavassilas is an author, acclaimed speaker and regular guest on the alternative radio circuit. george has had an extraordinary life with many hundreds of interactions with both benevolent and malevolent Beings from many different levels of realities, both on and off world. In 2003, he took a journey with his conscious spirit through the dimensions of our Universe and he rediscovered what life in this Universe is all about. He was able to once again remember who we all are, where we come from and where we are headed, sharing this knowledge with the world in order to assist Humanity in reclaiming our sovereignty. Our Journey Home Pty Ltd (OJH) is an Australian registered company established by george and Cynthia Kavassilas to help deliver the message that george presents to a global audience. George is the author of OUR UNIVERSAL JOURNEY  Go to Amazon to read the excellent reviews of this amazing book. http://www.amazon.com/Our-Universal-Journey-George-Kavassilas/dp/0987261509

03/09/2011 George Kavassilashttp://archive.org/download/ProjectCamelot/Project-Camelot-32k-030911.mp3

06/29/2012 - George Kavassilas & Michael Tellingerhttp://archive.org/download/ProjectCamelot/RevRad-g-kavassilas-m-tellinger-06292012.mp3Bio extract taken from michaeltellinger.comMichael Tellinger, author, scientist, explorer, has become a real-life Indiana Jones, making groundbreaking discoveries about ancient vanished civilizations at the southern tip of Africa. His continued efforts and analytical scientific approach have produced stunning new evidence that will force us to rethink our origins and rewrite our history books.In the last six months Michael has shared the stage with international celebrities like Graham Hancock, Robert Temple begin of the skype highlightingend of the skype highlighting, David Wilcock, Bob Dean, Kerry Cassidy (Project Camelot), Dr. Seven Greer, Stanton Friedman (PhD), Andrew Collins, Klaus Dona, and many more. His successful 2010 and 2011 USA and Canadian tours enthralled not only the American audiences but also his Canadian followers.Bio extract taken from our-journey-home.comGeorge Kavassilas:George has always seen the world through different eyes as compared to those around him. From a very young age, he was aware that the universe was full of life, and could see and feel life around him more deeply than other people. This included the teachings of the so called, education system, religious doctrines and society in general which portray a vastly different and limited perspective.The journey began for George as far back as his memories of this current life allow, to around the age of five. He has memories of being taken from his bed at night onto ships, and being taken to other places on the planet and to other worlds. His interactions with other Beings on many different levels of realities have been occurring throughout his life. These experiences were with both benevolent Beings, of which George calls his “Greater Family”, and malevolent others who have the ability to appear in many guises.

We are Surfing the Psychic Waves with Author George Kavassilas, talking about his book Our Universal Journey, out today on amazon.com. This book (ebook and audiobook) from a popular alternative radio guest is set to turn the new age movement and spiritual world on its head. Our Universal Journey is a unique book communicating self-empowerment from a universal perspective. The book provides a perspective of our existence beyond the paradigms of science, religion, the occults and new age.In Our Universal Journey, author George Kavassilas uses his life of extraordinary experiences to unravel the answers to life's biggest questions in a simplistic, understandable and resoundingly authentic way. The detailed journey of one’s entry into this universe, compressing down into galaxies, planets, stars and eventual embodiment onto our planetary Mother to participate the end of ‘The Cycle for Life Eternal’ is breathtaking in scope. For more, please visit www.ourjourneyhome.com.au

George Kavassilas | Our Universal Journey

Show hosted by Kimberley Jaeger featuring KRYON SUMMER LIGHT CONFERNCE SEDONA ARIZONA - JUNE 6-10 http://www.kryon.com/ ***************************************************** Truth Frequency radio's Chris & Sheree interviewed George Kavassilas On June 23, 2012. http://truthfrequencyradio.com/ New George Kavassilas web site: http://www.our-journey-home.com

Get out the big boards we are surfing with metaphysician George Kavassilas. We will be talking about how all of us are far more significant and magnificent in the greater scheme of things than we usually imagine. George has a deep understanding of the ascension process, and we will discuss the planetary influences and planetary histories and planetary twin flame energies that are mind expanding. Find out more about George and Cynthia Kavassilas at http://www.our-journey-home.com/.

Hosted By Kimberley Jaeger.... More from George Kavassilas via Emma in Slovenia. Just wanted to share with you an interview that was filmed in what could be considered the perfect location and content of the utmost importance.  George & Emma in Bled Slovenia Link to youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiE-RcwEd2Y http://www.ourjourneyhomeusa.com/ George Kavassilas Live in person ECETI WA Aug 13-14  Chicago Aug 20-21   Boston Aug. 27-28 *************** "Heart in the Night" By Karen Bishop Gama Books website  https://www.gamabooks.com/ Book description: As the old world departs, a new world arrives... Countless prophesies have predicted the arrival of the End Times, but no one could know how they would unfold. As you read Heart in the Night, you will be guided through this process from climatic changes, to Earth changes, and a myriad of personal changes. You will learn about heart-opening symptoms that many are experiencing, ways to receive guidance during the End Times, and details of the higher-level ascension plan.

Our friend George Kavassilas Hosted by Rob Polonsky, Co-Hosted: Kimberley Jaeger We are extremely grateful that George has been kind enough to afford all of us the opportunity to interview him in front of a live audience; this call will be a real treat. We are expected to discuss: 2011/2012 matters, the shift, earth changes and the various on-world (and off-world) agendas that are playing out on center stage. You do not want to miss this live call with George Kavassilas. PS. Thank you for sharing this interview with anyone you believe is in resonance. ********* http://www.ourjourneyhomeusa.com/ George Kavassilas Live in person In Chicago Aug 20-21   In Boston Aug. 27-28

Hosted By Kimberley Jaeger....  Featuring one of the most important interviews I have done to date... Dr Ervin Laszlo  http://ervinlaszlo.com/   László stated in his book “You Can Change the World” that there is global choice for the coming world crisis, which could come in the form of a global breakdown centered on increasing fragmentation of economic inequality and a new arms race between rising powers. The other choice would be a global breakthrough led by international organizations. This would be by the linking of non-government organizations promoting sustainable development, using the internet. A Macroshift is defined as a popular movement to turn the tide from a global breakdown to a global breakthrough. László sees the years 2012-2020 as a critical period to change course as the coming crisis is taking shape in geopolitical current. ********* George Kavassilas http://www.ourjourneyhomeusa.com/ In Chicago Aug 20-21    In Boston Aug. 27-28 http://oraclesoftruth.org/ Oracles of Truth is a social learning experience. A place where every person can live out his or her individual life purpose while contributing to our collective life purpose.

Hosted by Kimberley Jaeger & Gary Moore.... We have a third great interview with George Kavassilas.  Ascension and Beyond questions submited by members of the forum. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/   http://www.georgekavassilas.org Interview conducted April 29 2011 his new web site coming soon: http://www.our-journey-home.com/  link to Georges fourum Q&A April 2011 https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0BzZuh0j7-3cEZTZjOWU1Mm ItYmZlYy00Y2UwLTlhNTktMmFhZmU4NTIwM2Mw&sort=name &layout=list&num=50

George Kavassilas | Our Journey Home

Hosted by Kimberley Jaeger & Gary Moore.... We have a second great interview with George Kavassilas, who lives in Australia, about Ascension and Beyond http://www.georgekavassilas.org we love this video too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtqydwOT7aA

Hosted by Kimberley Jaeger & Gary Moore...We have a great interview with George Kavassilas, who lives in Australia, about Ascension and Beyond http://www.georgekavassilas.org/... Much Love & Light!!! also check out our youtube video: The Lotus Marsh- Blessings from the Gulf of Mexico http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aHAOu9VWQo

Kimberley Jaeger & Gary Moore Host "Living In The NOW" 5-18-2010 Nikola Tesla documentary The missing secrets of Nikola Tesla: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4651808977954921152#docid=2188562935002257117 The 1980 Croatian movie staring Orson Welles "The Secret of Nikola Tesla" http://unit13.ortlos.info/?p=34 Featuring George Kavassilas talk "Our Journey & The Greatest Secret on Earth" Recorded March Equinox 2010. For more information please visit George's website: http://www.georgekavassilas.org On Friday, May 21, 2010, at 11:00 PM (UTC +0), join the Wave to Restore the Gulf. This fifteen minute segment features the words God and Love sung in many languages. Everyone is welcome! http://www.unitywave.com/

Kimberley Jaeger & Gary Moore Host "Living In The NOW" 5-18-2010 Nikola Tesla documentary The missing secrets of Nikola Tesla: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4651808977954921152#docid=2188562935002257117 The 1980 Croatian movie staring Orson Welles "The Secret of Nikola Tesla" http://unit13.ortlos.info/?p=34 Featuring George Kavassilas talk "Our Journey & The Greatest Secret on Earth" Recorded March Equinox 2010. For more information please visit George's website: http://www.georgekavassilas.org On Friday, May 21, 2010, at 11:00 PM (UTC +0), join the Wave to Restore the Gulf. This fifteen minute segment features the words God and Love sung in many languages. Everyone is welcome! http://www.unitywave.com/