Podcasts about Metamodernism

In this episode, Dr. Jason Storm returns to explore the relationship between science, religion, and meaning in the modern world. Starting with Storm's work on The Myth of Disenchantment, they discuss how the conventional narrative of modernity leading to widespread secularization and loss of magical/spiritual thinking is largely inaccurate. Storm explains how this narrative emerged in the 19th century while spiritualism and occult movements were actually flourishing. They examine the fragmentation of belief systems, the historical transformation of faith and epistemology, and how various "meaning crises" arise in contemporary society. The conversation touches on capitalism's relationship with environmental degradation, our connection to nature as a source of meaning, and the limitations of postmodernism. Storm advocates for a metamodern approach that encourages epistemic humility, community engagement, and brave spaces for meaningful dialogue to address complex social problems. You can read more about it in Metamodernism: The Future of Theory and check out his previous visit to the podcast, where we discuss it here. You can WATCH the conversation on YouTube Jason Ananda Josephson Storm is chair and professor of religion and chair of science and technology studies at Williams College. He is a scholar and author whose work focuses on the intersection of religion, science, and meaning in modern society. He has written several influential books including The Myth of Disenchantment, which challenges conventional narratives about secularization and modernity, and Metamodernism and the Future of Theory, which proposes new frameworks for moving beyond postmodern skepticism. Storm teaches courses on philosophy and meaning, including a popular class on "The Meaning of Life," where he introduces students to diverse philosophical and religious traditions. His research examines how individuals navigate belief systems in a fragmented cultural landscape, the relationship between institutional authority and personal meaning-making, and constructive approaches to addressing contemporary social crises. Storm advocates for epistemic humility, community engagement, and creating "brave spaces" for meaningful dialogue across differences. THEOLOGY BEER CAMP | Oct 16-18, 2025 | St. Paul, MN 3 Days of Craft Nerdiness with 50+ Theologians & God-Pods and 600 new friends. ONLINE CLASS ANNOUNCEMENT: The Many Faces of Christ Today The question Jesus asked his disciples still resonates today: "Who do you say that I am?" Join our transformative 5-week online learning community as we explore a rich tapestry of contemporary Christologies. Experience how diverse theological voices create a compelling vision of Jesus Christ for today's world. Expand your spiritual horizons. Challenge your assumptions. Enrich your faith. As always, the class is donation-based (including 0), so head over to ManyFacesOfChrist.com for more details and to sign up! _____________________ Hang with 40+ Scholars & Podcasts and 600 people at Theology Beer Camp 2025 (Oct. 16-18) in St. Paul, MN. This podcast is a Homebrewed Christianity production. Follow the Homebrewed Christianity, Theology Nerd Throwdown, & The Rise of Bonhoeffer podcasts for more theological goodness for your earbuds. Join over 80,000 other people by joining our Substack - Process This! Get instant access to over 45 classes at www.TheologyClass.com Follow the podcast, drop a review, send feedback/questions or become a member of the HBC Community. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Paul Anleitner is a cultural theologian that writes and speaks on the intersection of religion, culture, philosophy, and science. He is the host of Deep Talks: Cultural Theology with Paul Anleitner, a YouTube channel and podcast featuring long-form discussions with leading voices and lectures on the cultural theology. Register for the Exiles and Babylon conference: theologyintheraw.com -- If you've enjoyed this content, please subscribe to my channel! Support Theology in the Raw through Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/theologyintheraw Or you can support me directly through Venmo: @Preston-Sprinkle-1 Visit my personal website: https://www.prestonsprinkle.com For questions about faith, sexuality & gender: https://www.centerforfaith.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to Meaning-Making 101 where we explore the crisis of meaning in our world today, and how we may help usher in an awakening from it.In this episode we explore the topic of metamodernism, a cultural and philosophical movement that bridges traditionalism, modernism and postmodernism. This movement combines traditionalism's deep sense of the sacred, modernism's sincerity, hope, and belief in progress, and postmodernism's irony, skepticism, and self-awareness. It is a cultural movement that embraces meaning and authenticity, while acknowledging the complexity and absurdity of the world. And Stay Tuned following this short intro to metamodernism as we take a look at some of the Good News you may have missed this week in our GOOD NEWS Roundup!Join us as we consider how we may cultivate the wisdom to see beyond the narrowness of tribalist and essentialist perceptions of reality, and change this world from the inside-out!Like, Subscribe, and Share your thoughts and questions!Video in this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BzD3wUEMaQ&t=307sby  @BrendanGrahamDempsey  Disclaimer: This show may include copyrighted material for educational purposes that are intended to fall under the "fair use" guidelines of Section 107 of the Copyright Act. The content is used for commentary, critique, and educational insights. All rights to the original content belong to their respective owners. If you have any concerns about the use of your material, please reach out to us directly.Thanks for listening!Join Actuali in podcast land where we explore the arts of mindfulness, flow, and how to realize one's most authentic Self. On your favorite podcast platform @ https://Anchor.FM/ActualiThrough deep dives into life's greatest mysteries to inspiring conversations, to current events, guided Wim Hof beathing and meditations, Actuali is dedicated to revealing a clear way to view the world and our place in it.Together we change this world from the inside-out!Join us Wednesday's 7p EST on youtube.com/@actuali.podccastPlaying after the fact on Spotify, Apple, and more @ https://Anchor.FM/ActualiJoin Actuali on Social! Instagram:https://Instagram.com/actuali.podcastTwitter:https://Twitter.com/Actuali_PodcastFacebook:https://facebook.com/Actuali.podcastOur band, ⁠American Dharma:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfJn_yIRo45SRHGfsjJ8XiwA.D. on facebook: https://facebook.com/AmericanDharmabandA.D. on Instagram: https://instagram.com/American.Dharma.bandA.D. on Twitch:https://www.twitch.tv/americandharmaThe audio side of this episode will also be available on all major podcast platforms via https://Anchor.FM/Actuali Enjoy the show!

Tony Wolf joins me to discuss his new book out from Sky Meadow Press: 'Poetic Faiths: New Religions and Rituals as Works of Living Art, Vol I.' First we tackle the idea of "Poetic Faiths" and what they are before going over what's in this new anthology of interviews with creators of such Poetic Faiths. Tony shares part of his story that led him to this work as well as some of the specifics of his own Poetic Faith, The Mysterium. Finally, we consider the significance and future of this form of spirituality. 0:00 Introduction2:02 What is a "Poetic Faith"?15:13 The Anthology18:53 Poetic Faiths and Metamodern Religion23:04 Tony's Story: The First of The Three Moments31:09 Tony's Poetic Faith: The Mysterium38:51 Mindful Ritual and Serious Symbols44:02 A Mycelial Network of New Faiths54:42 The Roles for Creators1:10:39 Conclusion To hear more, visit brendangrahamdempsey.substack.com

James Cussen of @TheLivingPhilosophy joins me to discuss his probing 6-part critique of what "metamodernism" really is. We go deep into the strands of metamodern theory and discourse to debate the relative merits and demerits of various approaches to the topic. Along the way, we both explore various ways to clarify and nuance topics and ideas core to various metamodern projects.0:00 Introduction (and Name Change)3:29 Pulling the Thread8:23 Trend, Period, Episteme, Logic?26:35 The Problems of Stage Theories56:37 Who's Afraid of 'Postmodernism'?1:14:37 What the Hell is 'Modernity'?1:36:24 Culture and Complexity1:59:25 Telling the Story of our Stories You can read James's critique here: https://www.thelivingphilosophy.com/p/metamodernism-critique-introduction To hear more, visit brendangrahamdempsey.substack.com

Yancey Strickler on Metalabel, Digital Scarcity, and the Coming Creative RevolutionKickstarter co-founder Yancey Strickler unveils his vision of a radical economic future where artists become society's power brokers. Through Metalabel, he's building the infrastructure for collective commerce and creative ownership that could transform how we value and exchange culture.“In 50 years, artists won't just influence culture—they'll control capital”Key takeaways:{00:13:10} - “The concept of art and creativity that we think of today that we take as givens that we're like, “Oh my God, I have to promote my drop again today,” are incredibly modern inventions.” - Yancey{00:24;51] - “I believe {this project} will produce a world where 50 or 60 years from now, artists and creative people are the most powerful members of society. They will have the greatest influence. They will have the greatest access to wealth. They will be the most powerful people in society, and this is a structure by which that will occur. And that's a project we'll announce next year.” - Yancey{00:26:20} - “We all want to be able to homestead and have our own spaces that are ours, but we also want to be part of spaces where we can be discovered. And so how can our catalogs exist in a world like that? Artists right now are excluded from capitalism. Let's change that.” - Yancey{00:28:53} - “People are still just looking in the dead channel, the dying channels…where we've been trained to look for what is new and what matters. And the answer is that that's not where those things are happening now.” - Yancey{00:38:09} - “Anyone who's 20 years old today, born and raised on the Internet, there's just like a mentality, a metamodern, just flat openness, super well-curated sort of vibe that I just think lends itself quite well to operating very specific, but I think very successful, small to medium-sized creative businesses.” - YanceyAssociated Links:Pre-order the LORE Journal by Future Commerce on MetalabelConnect with Yancey Strickler and learn more about MetalabelThe Dark Forest CollectiveKirby Ferguson's New York Times piece, Is Creativity Dead?Check out Future Commerce on YouTubeCheck out Future Commerce+ for exclusive content and save on merch and printSubscribe to Insiders and The Senses to read more about what we are witnessing in the commerce worldListen to our other episodes of Future CommerceHave any questions or comments about the show? Let us know on futurecommerce.com, or reach out to us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, or LinkedIn. We love hearing from our listeners!

Subscribe, Rate, & Review on YouTube • Spotify • Apple Podcasts✨ About This Episode“The best academic lecture/slam poetry/sermon/magical invocation/attunement and invitation to engage I've experienced in a long while.”– Daniel LindenbargerNext week, after nearly nine years of development, this show grows up to become Humans On The Loop, a transdisciplinary exploration of agency in the age of automation. For long-time listeners of Future Fossils, not much will really change — philosophical investigations in the key of psychedelic futurism, voyages into the edges of what is and can be known, and boldly curious riffs on the immeasurable value of storytelling and imagination have always characterized this show. Many of the episodes I've shared in this last year especially were, effectively, preparations for this latest chapter and play as large a part in my ongoing journey to synthesize and translate everything I've learned from years of independent scholarship and institutional work in esteemed tech, science, and culture orgs…But we are no longer waiting for a weird future to arrive. We're living in it, and shaping it with every act and utterance. So in this “final” episode of Future Fossils before I we bring all of these investigations into the domain of practical applied inquiry, it felt right to ramp from FF to HOTL by sharing my talk and discussion for Stephen Reid's recent online course on Technological Metamodernism. This was a talk that left me feeling very full of hope for what's to come, in which I trace the constellations that connect some of my biggest inspirations, and outline the social transformations I see underway.This is a rapid and dynamic condensation of the big patterns I've noticed in the course of over 500 hours of recorded public dialogue and a lively primer on why I'm focusing on the attention and imagination as the two big forces that will continue to shape our lives in the worlds that come after modernity.It is also just the beginning.Thank you for being part of this adventure.✨ Support & Participate• Become a patron on Substack (my preference) or Patreon(15% off annual memberships until 12/21/24 with the code 15OFF12)• Make a tax-deductible donation to Humans On The Loop• Original paintings available as thank-you gifts for large donors• Hire me as an hourly consultant or advisor on retainer• Buy (most of) the books we discuss from Bookshop.org• Join the Future Fossils Facebook group• Join the Holistic Technology & Wise Innovation and Future Fossils Discord servers• Buy the show's music on Bandcamp — intro “Olympus Mons” from the Martian Arts EP and outro “Sonnet A” from the Double-Edged Sword EP• Read “An Oral History of The End of ‘Reality'”, my story mentioned in this episode.✨ ChaptersChapter 1: Reflections & Announcements (0:00:00)Chapter 2: Co-Evolution with AI and the Limits of Control (0:12:49)Chapter 3: Poetry as the Beginning and End of Scientific Knowledge (0:18:06)Chapter 4: The American Replacement of Nature and the Power of Narrative (0:24:05)Chapter 5: The End of “Reality” & The Beginning of Metamodern Nuance (28:58)Chapter 6: Q&A: Myths, Egregores, and Metamodern Technology vs. Wetiko & Moloch (0:34:52)Chapter 7: Q&A: Chaos Magic & Other Strategies for Navigating Complexity (45:59)Chapter 8: Q&A: Musings on Symbiogenesis & Selfhood (0:50:18)Chapter 9: Q&A: How Do We Legitimize These Approaches? (0:55:42)Chapter 10: Q&A: Why Am I Devoting Myself to Wise Innovation Inquiry? (0:61:01)Chapter 11: Thanks & Closing (0:63:22)✨ Mentioned IndividualsA mostly-complete list generated by Notebook LM and edited by Michael Garfield.* William Irwin Thompson - Historian, poet, and author of The American Replacement of Nature, which argues that American culture is future-oriented. (See Future Fossils 42 & 43.)* Evan “Skytree” Snyder - Electronic music producer, roboticist, and co-founder of Future Fossils who departed after ten episodes. (See Future Fossils 1-10, 53, 174, and 207.)* Stephen Reid - Founder of the Dandelion online learning program and The Psychedelic Society; host of a course on “Technological Metamodernism” in which Garfield presented this talk. (See Future Fossils 226.)* Ken Wilber - Author of numerous books on “AQAL” Integral Theory. (See Michael's 2008 interview with him on Integral Art.)* Friedrich Hölderlin - German poet who famously said, "Poetry is the beginning and the end of all scientific knowledge.”* George Lakoff and Mark Johnson - Authors of Metaphors We Live By, which explores the role of embodied metaphor in shaping thought.* John Vervaeke - Philosopher who, along with others, uses the term “transjective” to describe the interconnected nature of subject and object.* Sean Esbjörn-Hargens - Integral theorist who taught Garfield at JFK University. (See Future Fossils 60, 113, and 150.)* Nathalie Depraz, Francisco Varela, and Pierre Vermersch - Embodied mind theorists and authors of On Becoming Aware, a book about phenomenology.* Kevin Kelly - Techno-optimist Silicon Valley futurist and author on “the expansion of ignorance” in relation to scientific discovery. (See Future Fossils 128, 165, and 203.)* Albert Einstein, Niels Bohr, and David Bohm - Paradigm-challenging physicists mentioned who, by science to its limits, developed mystical insights.* Timothy Morton - Philosopher who coined the term “hyperobjects” to refer to entities so vast and complex they defy traditional understanding. (See Future Fossils 223.)* Caleb Scharf - Astrobiologist, author of The Ascent of Information, in which he coins the term “The Dataome” to refer to the planet-scale body of information that constrains human behavior.* Iain McGilchrist - Psychiatrist and author of The Master and His Emissary, known for his work on the divided brain and the importance of right-brained thinking.* Eric Wargo - Anthropologist and science writer who suggests that dreams are precognitive and the brain binds time as a four-dimensional object. (See Future Fossils 117, 171, and 231.)* Regina Rini - Philosopher at York University who coined the term “epistemic backstop of consensus” to describe what photography gave society and what, later, deepfakes have eroded.* Friedrich Nietzsche and Fyodor Dostoevsky - Philosophers and authors who explored the implications of the loss of a universal moral order grounded in religion.* Duncan Barford - An author and figure associated with chaos magic.* Lynn Margulis - Evolutionary biologist known for her work on symbiogenesis and the importance of cooperation in evolution.* Primavera De Filippi - Co-author of Blockchain and the Law: The Rule of Code with Aaron Wright and technology theorist who theorized the "Collaboration Monster."* Joshua Schrei - Ritualist and host of The Emerald Podcast who produced episodes on Guardians and Protectors and on the role of The Seer. (See Future Fossils 219.)* Hunter S. Thompson - American journalist and author known for his gonzo journalism and the quote, "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.”* Tim Adalin - Host of the VoiceCraft podcast, on which Garfield discussed complex systems perspectives on pathologies in organizational development. (See Future Fossils 227.) This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit michaelgarfield.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode of the Blue Beryl Podcast, Dr Pierce Salguero sits down with the show's producer, Lan A. Li, a historian of Chinese science, medicine, and the body. We talk about their life-long practice of qigong, the limits of academic critique, and the integration of divergent epistemologies in studying Chinese anatomy. Along the way, we discuss Lan's new book, Body Maps: Improvising Meridians and Nerves in Global Chinese Medicine (Johns Hopkins UP, 2025), Lan's relationship to Islam, and how to cultivate wonder through academic study. Remember, if you want to hear from more experts on Buddhism, Asian medicine, and embodied spirituality, subscribe to Blue Beryl for monthly episodes. Please enjoy!  Resources mentioned in the episode: Lan's website Lan Li, “The Vital Other: Integrsative Medicine and India” (2012) Lan Li, “Acupuntura e Moxabustão” (2023) Lan Li and Pierce Salguero, Jivaka Project Philadelphia (2015-2020) Pierce's 2020 blogs on Metamodernism and Polyperspectivalism Lan Li, Body Maps: Improvising Meridians and Nerves in Global Chinese Medicine (2025) Pierce Salguero is a transdisciplinary scholar of health humanities who is fascinated by historical and contemporary intersections between Buddhism, medicine, and crosscultural exchange. He has a Ph.D. in History of Medicine from the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine (2010), and teaches Asian history, medicine, and religion at Penn State University's Abington College, located near Philadelphia. www.piercesalguero.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

In this episode of the Blue Beryl Podcast, Dr Pierce Salguero sits down with the show's producer, Lan A. Li, a historian of Chinese science, medicine, and the body. We talk about their life-long practice of qigong, the limits of academic critique, and the integration of divergent epistemologies in studying Chinese anatomy. Along the way, we discuss Lan's new book, Body Maps: Improvising Meridians and Nerves in Global Chinese Medicine (Johns Hopkins UP, 2025), Lan's relationship to Islam, and how to cultivate wonder through academic study. Remember, if you want to hear from more experts on Buddhism, Asian medicine, and embodied spirituality, subscribe to Blue Beryl for monthly episodes. Please enjoy!  Resources mentioned in the episode: Lan's website Lan Li, “The Vital Other: Integrsative Medicine and India” (2012) Lan Li, “Acupuntura e Moxabustão” (2023) Lan Li and Pierce Salguero, Jivaka Project Philadelphia (2015-2020) Pierce's 2020 blogs on Metamodernism and Polyperspectivalism Lan Li, Body Maps: Improvising Meridians and Nerves in Global Chinese Medicine (2025) Pierce Salguero is a transdisciplinary scholar of health humanities who is fascinated by historical and contemporary intersections between Buddhism, medicine, and crosscultural exchange. He has a Ph.D. in History of Medicine from the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine (2010), and teaches Asian history, medicine, and religion at Penn State University's Abington College, located near Philadelphia. www.piercesalguero.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/medicine

In this episode of the Blue Beryl Podcast, Dr Pierce Salguero sits down with the show's producer, Lan A. Li, a historian of Chinese science, medicine, and the body. We talk about their life-long practice of qigong, the limits of academic critique, and the integration of divergent epistemologies in studying Chinese anatomy. Along the way, we discuss Lan's new book, Body Maps: Improvising Meridians and Nerves in Global Chinese Medicine (Johns Hopkins UP, 2025), Lan's relationship to Islam, and how to cultivate wonder through academic study. Remember, if you want to hear from more experts on Buddhism, Asian medicine, and embodied spirituality, subscribe to Blue Beryl for monthly episodes. Please enjoy!  Resources mentioned in the episode: Lan's website Lan Li, “The Vital Other: Integrsative Medicine and India” (2012) Lan Li, “Acupuntura e Moxabustão” (2023) Lan Li and Pierce Salguero, Jivaka Project Philadelphia (2015-2020) Pierce's 2020 blogs on Metamodernism and Polyperspectivalism Lan Li, Body Maps: Improvising Meridians and Nerves in Global Chinese Medicine (2025) Pierce Salguero is a transdisciplinary scholar of health humanities who is fascinated by historical and contemporary intersections between Buddhism, medicine, and crosscultural exchange. He has a Ph.D. in History of Medicine from the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine (2010), and teaches Asian history, medicine, and religion at Penn State University's Abington College, located near Philadelphia. www.piercesalguero.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/intellectual-history

In this episode of the Blue Beryl Podcast, Dr Pierce Salguero sits down with the show's producer, Lan A. Li, a historian of Chinese science, medicine, and the body. We talk about their life-long practice of qigong, the limits of academic critique, and the integration of divergent epistemologies in studying Chinese anatomy. Along the way, we discuss Lan's new book, Body Maps: Improvising Meridians and Nerves in Global Chinese Medicine (Johns Hopkins UP, 2025), Lan's relationship to Islam, and how to cultivate wonder through academic study. Remember, if you want to hear from more experts on Buddhism, Asian medicine, and embodied spirituality, subscribe to Blue Beryl for monthly episodes. Please enjoy!  Resources mentioned in the episode: Lan's website Lan Li, “The Vital Other: Integrsative Medicine and India” (2012) Lan Li, “Acupuntura e Moxabustão” (2023) Lan Li and Pierce Salguero, Jivaka Project Philadelphia (2015-2020) Pierce's 2020 blogs on Metamodernism and Polyperspectivalism Lan Li, Body Maps: Improvising Meridians and Nerves in Global Chinese Medicine (2025) Pierce Salguero is a transdisciplinary scholar of health humanities who is fascinated by historical and contemporary intersections between Buddhism, medicine, and crosscultural exchange. He has a Ph.D. in History of Medicine from the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine (2010), and teaches Asian history, medicine, and religion at Penn State University's Abington College, located near Philadelphia. www.piercesalguero.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/chinese-studies

Today I sit down with Blue Beryl's producer, Lan A. Li, a historian of Chinese science, medicine, and the body. We talk about their life-long practice of qigong, the limits of academic critique, and the integration of divergent epistemologies in studying Chinese anatomy. Along the way, we discuss Lan's new book, Body Maps: Improvising Meridians and Nerves in Global Chinese Medicine, Lan's relationship to Islam, and how to cultivate wonder through academic study.If you want to hear more from experts on Buddhism, Asian medicine, and embodied spirituality then subscribe to Blue Beryl and don't miss an episode!Resources mentioned in this episode:Lan's websiteLan Li, “The Vital Other: Integrative Medicine and India” (2012)Lan Li, “Acupuntura e Moxabustão” (2023)Lan Li and Pierce Salguero, Jivaka Project Philadelphia (2015-2020) Pierce's blogs on Ugly Truths about Grad School, Metamodernism, Metamodern Asian Medicine, and PolyperspectivalismLan Li, Body Maps: Improvising Meridians and Nerves in Global Chinese Medicine (2025) 

Brett McCracken is a senior editor and director of communications at The Gospel Coalition. He is the author of several books, including The Wisdom Pyramid: Feeding Your Soul in a Post-Truth World and Uncomfortable: The Awkward and Essential Challenge of Christian Community. brettmccracken.com In this conversation, Paul Anleitner and Brett McCracken explore the concept of metamodernism as a response to postmodernism, discussing its implications in storytelling, culture, and spirituality. They delve into the characteristics of modernism and postmodernism, the cultural shifts observed in cinema, and the search for authenticity and resonance in a world saturated with superficial content. The discussion also touches on the challenges faced by Christianity in a post-Christian culture, emphasizing the need for the church to engage meaningfully with contemporary cultural longings while maintaining its core beliefs. Deep Talks is a listener-supported podcast. Become a member on Patreon today: https://www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast   For the lecture series on Metamodernism: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2EZScsHowQFM32YIYXZ3ch?si=2CCbm5mMT_arZBSAtzsn7w

The battle between reason and imagination.

Subscribe, Rate, & Review on YouTube • Spotify • Apple Podcasts✨ About This EpisodeHow can we design virtuous technologies while acknowledging the complexity and unintended consequences of technological innovation?How can we foster curiosity, playfulness, and wonder in a world increasingly dominated by anxiety and technological determinism?This week on Future Fossils (as a teaser for the kind of conversations I am having for my upcoming spin-off Humans On The Loop), I meet with Stockholm-based transdisciplinary technologist, facilitator, complexity researcher, founder of The Psychedelic Society, and once upon a time the youngest-ever board member of Greenpeace UK, Stephen Reid to discuss the importance of taking a more values-driven approach to technology development. Stephen and I agree that it's crucial to consider the potential consequences of technological advancements and to promote a more thoughtful approach to innovation…but for the sake of playing with tension, he places more of an emphasis on our capacity for axiological design whereas I feel more of a need to point out that the rapid evolution of technology can outpace our ability to predict its consequences, troubling efforts to design an enduringly sustainable future. One thing we agree on, and model in this episode, is the value of deeper conversations about the role of technology in society…and how to integrate their transformative potentials.PS — I'm guest lecturing for Stephen's upcoming four-week course on Technological Metamodernism soon, along with Alexander Beiner and Hanzi Freinacht and Ellie Hain and Rufus Pollock. We'll engage critically with ideas like Daniel Schmachtenberger's axiological design and Vitalik Buterin's d/acc. As usual I'm probably the odd duck in this lineup, going hard on epistemic humility and the injunction of digital media to effect a transformation of the modern self-authoring ego into networked, permeable, transjective sub-agencies arising spontaneously and fluidly from fundamentally noncomputable interactions of rapid information flows... Anyway, the point is we'd love to have you join us and sink your teeth into these discussions! I absolutely promise to bring up voting cyborg ecotopes. Big thanks to Stephen for inviting me to play!PPS — Here is another really good, very different conversation between me and Stephen and Alistair Langer on Alistair's show Catalyzing Radical Systems Change.(Editorial Correction: It was Mike Tyson, not Muhammad Ali, who said "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.")✨ Support This Work• Hire me as a consultant or advisor• Become a patron on Substack or Patreon• Help me find backers for Humans On The Loop• Buy the books we discuss from my Bookshop reading list• Buy original paintings and prints or commission new work• Join the conversation in the Holistic Technology & Wise Innovation and Future Fossils Discord servers• Buy the show's music on Bandcamp — intro “Olympus Mons” from the Martian Arts EP & outro “Sonnet A” from the Double-Edged Sword EP• Make one-off donations at @futurefossils on Venmo, $manfredmacx on CashApp, or @michaelgarfield on PayPal✨ Chapters(0:00:00-0:10:29) Stephen's Background and Interests in Technology and Metamodernism (0:10:29-0:18:03) Navigating the Complex Relationship Between Technology and Human Values (0:18:03-0:25:18) The Limits of Axiological Design and the Importance of Community Oversight (0:25:18-0:34:29) Defining and Defending Axiological Design (0:34:29-0:45:03) Exploring Alternative Governance Structures: Guilds and Rites of Passage (0:45:03-0:56:36) Vitalik Buterin's "Defensive Decentralized Accelerationism" (0:56:36-1:06:04) Integrating Humor and Recognizing Irony in the Technosphere(1:06:04-1:12:17) Recovering Awe, Curiosity, and Playfulness in a Tech-Saturated World (1:12:17- 1:12:56) Finding Lightness in the Face of Existential Questions (1:12:56-1:13:28) Exploring The Future and A Call to Action✨ MentionsIain McGilchrist, Daniel Schmachtenberger, Hanzi Freinacht, Josh Schrei, Ken Wilber, Vitalik Buterin, Bayo Akomolafe, Cory Doctorow, Nora Bateson, Dave Snowden, W. Brian Arthur, J. F. Martel, Stafford Beer, Rene Descartes, Bill Plotkin, Joe Edelman, Ellie Hain, Douglas Rushkoff, Robert Kegan, Aldous Huxley, Andrés Gomez Emilsson✨ Select Related Episodes (also available as a Spotify playlist)223 - Timothy Morton, 220 - Austin Wade-Smith219 - Joshua Schrei217 - Gregory Landua and Speaker John Ash214 - Megan Phipps, JF Martel, Phil Ford213 - Amber Case, Michael Zargham212 - Geoffrey West, Manfred Laubichler187 - Kevin Welch, David Hensley178 - Chris Ryan176 - Richard Doyle, Sophie Strand, Sam Gandy174 - Evan Snyder172 - Tyson Yunkaporta166 - Anna Riedl165 - Kevin Kelly163 - Toby Kiers, Brandon Quittem141 - Nora Bateson122 - Magenta Ceiba109 - Bruce Damer094 - Mark Nelson086 - Onyx Ashanti080 - George Dvorsky076 - Technology as Psychedelic Parenting066 - John Danaher060 - Sean Esbjörn-Hargens056 - Sophia Rokhlin051 - Daniel Schmachtenberger050 - Ayana Young042 - William Irwin Thompson017 - Tibet Sprague This is a public episode. 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In this episode of Creations Paths, host Charlie, a non-binary sci-fi fantasy writer and practicing Druid, delves into the concepts of the queenship and motherhood of Mary. Charlie explores the significance of Mary in Christian tradition, explaining how she serves as a substitute and stand-in for humanity, emphasizing her role in salvation history and her embodiment of divine feminine power. From Mary's Fiat to her presence as the Queen of Heaven, this video examines her profound impact and importance. Charlie discusses the paradigm shifts in modern, post-modern, and metamodern perspectives on faith and how Mary's queenship counters patriarchal instincts. The episode also touches upon the personal devotional impacts of Mary and how she serves as a source of healing and balance in faith practice.Tips or Donations here: https://ko-fi.com/cedorsett patreon.com/cedorsett Substack: https://www.creationspaths.com/ For Educational Resource: https://wisdomscry.com For all of the things we are doing at The Seraphic Grove go to Creation's Paths https://www.creationspaths.com/ Social Connections: BlueSky https://bsky.app/profile/creationspaths.com Threads https://www.threads.net/@creationspaths Instagram https://www.instagram.com/creationspaths/Transcript:[00:00:00] Charlie- New: Salve Regina. Hail holy queen mother and queen blessed Mary mother of God, mother of the church, mother of us all, queen of our hearts. Yes today, we're going to be talking about the queenship of Mary and the motherhood of Mary. Why would a metamodern anarchist like me be all down for calling anybody a queen. Let's talk about that. On today's Creations Paths. Intro. [00:00:27] Charlie- New: Hello everyone. My name is Charlie. I'm a non-binary scifi fantasy writer. I'm also a practicing Druid as is my husband, Brian. Today we're going to be talking about the motherhood, the queenship of Mary. This is I think a hard one for modern folk. Harder for post-modern folk and. I think dirt simple for Metta modern folk. [00:01:01] Brian - New: Ah, the progressions. [00:01:02] Charlie- New: The progression, how the paradigms do shift. So might be confused by those three labels and don't worry. it's fine. a Modernist is somebody who believes in grand unifying ideas. A post-modern is all about deconstruction and tearing those ideas back into there little bitty pieces in a Metamodernism, just kind of dances. Through it all. [00:01:24] Brian - New: about the journey or the dance. [00:01:26] Charlie- New: Its about the journey. It just oscillate back and forth between the grand idea and the deconstruction of it. Here I am sitting here. I pray the Salve Regina, I often. will call out to the queen of heaven, to the queen of our hearts, to the queen of mercy. There's so many wonderful titles that Mary, has. Yet, if you were to tell me that I had to bow to an actual earthly queen, I would laugh at you unless I was at some kind of a ball or something. [00:01:54] Brian - New: Then she going to have to prove herself. [00:01:56] Charlie- New: she going to have to make it work. Why does it matter to us? in this. Day and age to talk about the queenship of Mary. Well, one. As we've talked before and we'll probably always be talking about. When it comes to Mary, Mary is the substitute, the stand in for us in these stories. She is the first who gave that beautiful Fiat. When she said, yes. So that the son of God could be born into the world. She is the one who proclaimed the gospel that the high will be thrown down and their Thrones will be scattered and that the lowly will be brought up. She is the one who was there through all of the. Mysteries of Christ's life. She is the one who was taken into heaven. She is the one who became one. With the father, as Christ is with the father. And is the matrix from whom we are all formed. Mary is so central. To the heart of the faith. If you came from a Protestant upbringing, This may seem. Foreign to you. I know it was when Brian and I first got together because. I have been a Marianist since I was about 16. [00:03:07] Brian - New: When first exposed to these concepts, I was like, what's the point? Like. If you got God, you got Jesus. Aren't you good. Isn't it all? I think. you did two things. One. When you pointed out, that could be good and for some of them that is all they need. That is great and wonderful. But for others, they might not feel. Worthy or they might not feel deserving. Of grace. Of being in the presence of God. Sometimes it's easier to go to the mother. And to be cradled and held by the mother. mothers tend to be non-judging and accepting. And then you handed me saint Louis de Montfort's book and said, read this. Sent me on my way. Which was very fascinating. Read. Pretty fascinating time, but. Not for this episode. [00:03:54] Charlie- New: Well, and he called it right. He did call her a secret of Mary. Is the secret of Marry. Come to your faith. Faithful one. Let me tell you the secret of Mary. As hard as the secret known to, but a few right. Mary is so core to all of this because she is the one who formed Christ. She formed. Jesus. She is the mother. Of Christ. And as such, if we are the body of Christ, she is our mother. But also as the mother of Christ, she is the one who forms us. She is the one that makes us. Who and what we are is Paul. Says she's the heavenly Jerusalem. When thinking about her and her place in the economy of salvation, she is. The pinpoint she's the startup. Yeah. She brought. The holy one, she brought Christ into the world. With her queenship. why should that matter? [00:04:46] Charlie- New: Well, one. I think it's very important to highlight the queenship of Mary. Because it fights against the. Patriarchal instincts of the Imperial church. That even when they want to call her a queen. We'll try to sideline her in many, many ways. And that she. And we, they tried to take her family away. They tried to do all kinds of things. To try to keep her from living in the fullness. That she does. Mary's queenship. Reminds us. Of the power of the feminine. The absolute power, that is there. We often talk about the kingdom of God. I know that there've been people who have tried to move away from that term. Matthew Fox has tried to move away from the term, a lot of, uh, Christian leaders of. Tried realm or. Matthew Fox likes to say queendom. Of God, which. It's just a word that. I don't know. Jingles in my brain in a strange way. If we were to look at the way that these words have been traditionally used. Cause. I think it is important to have a sense of continuity. She is the queen of the kingdom. She stands there. To me. Mary is the answer to the question that the sons of Zebedee ask Jesus, who will sit at your right hand. Oh, Mary. And to me, Jesus answers this question, the first shall be last. And the last shall be first. The one who shall be first will be the servant of all. Mary does not have a prominent role throughout the gospels. And is. Absent. To the point where a lot of people forget that she was there. And you have to point out. No, she's right there. She's right there. Through the entire story, but in her humility, she is. Doing her job, everything. My son tells you do it. She's always pointing. To the Christ. It's only afterwards. Where she is able to take her real true and proper place. Where we see. The role that she plays. I'm not saying that all of us need to just fade into the background. Though, if you're going to be like, Uh, shadow broker. Who's bringing good about into the world. Fade into the background. Make the good things happen. But the story, at least at that time was not about her. Now it is. Like I said that. The story is about Mary start very, very early on. From the Purdue week, Ben gallium. Telium of James. That spends a lot of time on her childhood and her parents. Anne and Joachim. Through to the door mission of Mary that tells us about her assumption into heaven for the first time. Mary becomes the center of the story very quickly in Christian history. And has remained in this primacy. Place. It's because. We need. That mother. Because the Imperial church. Robbed us of a. Maternal God, which by the way, is found throughout the Christian tradition. And the. scriptural one as well. As just a side note. I love giving people the revelation of divine. Knowing. And of divine love for the first time. By Julian of Norwich because when they see the phrase of mother Christ, For the first time, it just kind of shatters their expectations. And when you remember that this woman is a Saint in the Episcopalian and Catholic, like every church claims her. She uses the phrase mother Christ. We had a lot in that book actually. Because the divine feminine has always been there. But it gets hidden. Like Mary. Was it. This pivotal person. In the history of our faith. She raised. The Christ child. She was there when they fled into Egypt and she was there when they came back. She's the one that would have instilled his morals and ethics and to him as he's growing up. And yet we don't get to see. Hardly any of that. In scripture. By stressing that this unseen. Character. Is our queen. Because Queens are. majestic. They're powerful. It reminds us one. When we think about our own families. How very often. It was our mother and sisters and whatnot who kept everything flowing. Moving smoothly. Unseen by our hands you just woke up and there was breakfast cause. I don't know. You were a child and didn't think about where the breakfast came from. It was just there on the table when you got up. Now your mom got up before you and made that breakfast. Maybe. not all mothers. But you get the gist of what I'm trying to say. Power. It's not always loud. This is the other thing I love about the idea of the queenship of Mary. When we think of the kingship of God. You get images of like a Cecil B DeMille movie, god on the top of the mountain. Moses. These are my 10 commandments. It was booming voice coming down from heaven. We forget that we're told that the voice of God is. A whisper. It's a still small voice. It's a Russel. Leaves in the wind. It's a subtle voice. It's not this. Booming voice. In fact, when we actually read the story in. Exodus of them receiving the 10 sayings. It says, the voice of God was on the mountain and the people saw it. Which is a very interesting turn of phrase. Because they saw the voice, they didn't hear it. They saw the voice. It was a powerful image. We give this very. Strong vocal voice. Then when we think about. The queen. Especially with Mary, like I said, with her seeming absence yet. Ever presence in the gospels. It reminds us to listen for that actual real voice of God. That quiet. Still small voice of God that. Like what the experience of Elijah. God, wasn't in the fire, God wasn't in the earthquake. God, wasn't in the wind. But after all these three things, There was a still small voice. That's where we find the voice of God. That's where we find it in Mary. Mary is such an ever pervading presence in our lives. Queen of the angels queen of our hearts. These are not just words that I say because they're written in the litany somewhere. This is my experience of Mary. When I say I became a Marianist when I was 16. That's because. I was raised Baptist. I've talked about this bit, but I didn't convert to Catholicism. adulthood. I wasn't raised with Mary. Mary. Wasn't a part of my childhood. I found her. I found the secret of Mary. It gave me meaning and purpose. Like St. Elizabeth Ann Seton. When I thought about her. My heart. Warmed up. It brought me to life in a way that very few other thoughts had. It gave me meaning and purpose. Gave me something to strive for. When we say in the prayers, our life, our sweetness here below. That's Mary. Now there are thousands of words and pages written. About her, but when you look at the scripture, she's here, she's there. She doesn't have that profound presence. But she's there in all of it. Throughout the whole thing. That loving presence of that sweet divine mother. Guiding us and leading us. Ever forward. I love calling out to. Our queen. [00:11:59] Brian - New: It's also through Mary that. I find. Healing in the imagery of the kingdom of heaven. I know a lot of people nowadays. Bristle. At that term, as you pointed out earlier, But it is through Mary. As queen. We realize it puts things back into balance. It moves away from the falsehoods of misogyny. The false hoods of the significant figure in history that the one person that does. Man. Man history. Falsehoods and Mary helps to heal that because then you realize it's a king and a queen. It is in a way, going back to the time of judges. Which the old Testament. God said was the better way to have things. Anyhow, it's a council. It's not just this one dictation on high. That's not voice. It's the loud voice and the quiet voice. It's both together. It's the. action that you see. And the action that you don't see. [00:12:56] Charlie- New: It brings us back to the Elohim to God and. Cause the truest sense that divine counsel, that. True unity that said, let us make man in our image. And then he made them. Male and female. in unity and harmony and altogether. In one. That really is. The heart of what's missing and a lot of modern faith and a lot of modern practice. I have a very strong devotion to Mary. It's rivaled only by my devotion with Bridget. And if you've ever studied the prayers. Of our ancestors. Mary and Bridgid are almost always. Invoked together. In fact. It said that Bridgid. They say, this is about the saint, but I feel like this is more true of the goddess. was the foster mother of Jesus that she was the handmade. She was the midwife. That helped. Mary give birth to Jesus. And of course St. Bridget of Kildare could not have done that. But Bridgette could have done that. It's Bridget has always been and always will be. Like all the faces of God. So we see them together. When you see them together. Something magical happens because it erodes this idea of competition. It erodes the site idea of there being anything. Any vine for the attention or affections of the king. Mary is there. Bridget is there? Jesus is there. We are there. we don't have to fight about it. We don't have to beg to be seen. Because we are. personally like the terms king and queen for God. And Mary, just for one other reason. Because that's where the kingdom is. The kingdom of God is not of this world. By remembering that my true queen, my true king is not of this world. It makes it easier not to set up a queen or king in this world. So on this day, when we're remembering the queenship of Mary. I recommend maybe. watch Sister Act again. Right before we started this podcast, I played the salvia Regina. From the sister act soundtrack to get us. Ready. For this episode. Maybe watch one of my favorite movies. the song of Bernadette, which is about. Our Lady of Lourdes and St. Bernadette Soubirous. When she had the visions of Mary. love that movie so much. It's also a good movie. If you've never seen Vincent Price play anything, but in a horror movie. He still plays kind of the villain of the movie, it's an interesting role. That is not what I've come to expect to see as a Vincent Price would be. He's very good at it. Go out and. Just listen to nature. The queenship of Mary is everywhere. When we think about may, which is the traditional month where we celebrate Mary. So many of the songs invoke the lilies of the field and the flowers and the birds and the butterflies. That nature, because. The love of our divine mother. Is the most natural thing. I think I should just take just a moment. Cause I keep saying our divine mother and I know people that are coming from Protestant. Upbringing may have a problem with that. Mary is the mother of God. If you believe that Jesus has God. Mary is Jesus's mother. They're four by the transit of property. Mary is the mother of God. It's in the book. Whether there was a god. Before. Is a stupid question that gets asked by people that aren't really thinking, and they're just wanting to cause problems. Of course there was a god before. But Mary. Made that God. Mary. Is the vehicle through which Christ. That same cosmic Christ. That. Created everything and holds the universe together. Through Mary, that Christ came into this world. We meet him in the form of Jesus Christ. [00:16:51] Brian - New: When going back there was the Shekinah. Kina Shekinah. There you go. Thank you. [00:16:57] Charlie- New: have feelings about how Mary relates to the Shekinah, but that's a whole bag of worms, Mary as the lost princess. I really in my heart of hearts, believe that. I don't believe that anyone else has to believe that, but yes, in my heart of hearts, Yeah, Mary is the presence of God. The sweet. Shekinah the. The tent that covers us and holds us and one family. I guess 100% in my heart of hearts. I believe that. And for that alone makes her the queen. [00:17:27] Brian - New: the wind that supports us by day and the. Pillar, flame that lights our way and protects us. Our path at night. In the darkness. [00:17:36] Charlie- New: If you're into. More traditional things. Open up a prayer book. Say a rosary. Say a litany. Beautiful lit news. Just say the Regina Caeli. [00:17:47] Brian - New: For the Druids out there just take a moment today. Go outside. Sit under a tree. Sit in the mother's embrace. No, that we're all worth it. Raul. We're all. Okay. No matter how dark we are. We're all good. Some level. Mom always gives us a hug no matter what. Or how filthy we come in from playing outside. [00:18:06] Charlie- New: She is. Like the prayer says our life, our sweetness here below. Oh, Maria. This is a much more devotional episode than I thought it was going to end up being. But. It's hard for me to talk about Mary and not just. Break out into just extolling her brilliance and her virtues and just my absolute love and admiration for her. She has answered our prayers. With felt her presence in our darkest times. She she is with us. She cares for us. She is our mother and our queen. And I hope that. If you've. 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In the episode on "Technological Metamodernism," Vince Fakhoury Horn and Stephen Reid discuss the intersection of technology, metamodernism, and the potential middle paths that navigate between techno-optimism or e/acc and eco-dystopianism or doomerism. They explore how emerging technologies can be aligned with deeper values, such as sovereignty, relationality, and wholenss, while also addressing the challenges of our current technological trajectory​.Episode Links:

This summer, we'll be replaying some of the essential episodes from the past six years of Deep Talks. Here's one of those episodes from September 2023!

This summer, we'll be replaying some of the essential episodes from the past six years of Deep Talks. Here's one of those episodes from August 2023!

Who is the Christ of faith? What if he is the telos of existence itself? the direction to which all of thought and action tend? What if Christ Consciousness is the goal of a more comprehensive, open, de-centered, contextualized, and other-sensitive perspective? What if we (you and me) actually participate in the unfolding of God in the world?... 0:00 "After Deconstruction Must Come Reconstruction" 6:34 Metamodernism and Relating to the Christ of Faith 9:18 Moving Beyond Postmodern Relativistic Perspectivalism 19:43 Metamodernism: Seeing the Pattern of Perspectives 34:28 Christ as the Aim of Sacred History 48:13 "Christ" as Expanding Consciousness 54:10 Idols vs. Icons: The Death and Resurrection of "God" 1:00:19 Metamodern Informed Naivete 1:03:07 Forking the Lightning of God

Does the modern historical-critical lens on the Bible reject miracles on principle and thereby exclude in advance what it presupposes not to be true? Here I counter this critique by explaining how the miracles in the Gospels are problematized not by metaphysical prejudice but historical analysis. Taking the miracles in the Gospels at face value as historical events is problematic even if we work within a metaphysical frame that allows for miracles. Ultimately, it's a matter of historical reconstruction, not worldview, that forces us to rethink how much of the materials can be taken as reliable accounts of "what happened." 0:00 Does Modern Historical-Critical Scholarship Preclude Miracles on Principle? 2:23 A Metamodern Christianity Needs the Modern 3:59 Anti-Miracle Modernism: Steelmanning that Argument (Even Though It's Not Mine) 9:37 The Argument I Am Making: More Information Problematizes Naive Readings 13:09 Setting the Stage: Messianic Expectation and Prophecy Fulfilment Assessing Miracle Accounts in Light of the Historical Context 17:07 1. Jesus' Birth 29:15 2. Jesus' Calming of the Storm 36:00 3. Jesus' Crucifixion 39:38 4. Jesus' Resurrection 41:38 5. Jesus' Ascension 44:15 Other Historical Considerations 53:50 "Liar, Lunatic, or Lord?" Misses the Point Entirely 58:10 Meta-Naturalism: Appreciating an Incomplete Scientific Paradigm 1:03:28 Metamodern Christianity Should Be Robust and Include the Modern Lens 1:06:38 Metamodern Christianity: Informed Naivete and Truth in Development 1:09:50 Conclusion

This summer, we'll be replaying some of the essential episodes from the past six years of Deep Talks. Here's one of those episodes from August 2023!

Metamodernism and the Future of Theory with Jason Ānanda Josephson Storm by American Academy of Religion

In this week's conversation between Dr. James Emery White and co-host Alexis Drye, they discuss a relatively new term on the cultural scene - metamodernism. For decades, the term “postmodern” has been used to define the cultural mood of Western society. Well according to scholars, postmodernism has been dead for years. Taking its place is the new era of metamodernism. Episode Links Today's discussion was prompted by a recent article written by Benjamin Vincent for Christianity Today titled, “Goodbye Postmodernism, Hello Metamodernism.” As Vincent notes, this concept was primarily introduced to culture through the work of cultural analysts Timotheus Vermeulen and Robin van den Akker who wrote an article titled, “Notes on Metamodernism.” They outlined how metamodernism is primarily a structure of feeling - a culture that empowers the individual to first determine right ethics for themselves and then to find a corresponding religion or group that fits. It is within this culture of metamodernism that Generation Z has grown up, and it certainly marks them. Dr. White wrote extensively about this generation in his book Meet Generation Z: Understanding and reaching the New Post-Christian World. You can find that on Amazon HERE. Finally, here are two additional articles that Dr. White referenced in today's episode that you may wish to read to further your understanding of metamodernism and its impact on culture: Suzanne Blake, “Gen Z Wants Next President to 'Fundamentally Change' America,” Newsweek, May 13, 2024. Greg Dember, “Metamodernism: A response to modernism and postmodernism,” IAI News, November 29, 2023. For those of you who are new to Church & Culture, we'd love to invite you to subscribe (for free of course) to the twice-weekly Church & Culture blog and check out the Daily Headline News - a collection of headlines from around the globe each weekday. We'd also love to hear from you if there is a topic that you'd like to see discussed on the Church & Culture Podcast in an upcoming episode. You can find the form to submit your questions at the bottom of the podcast page HERE.

Ep. 134 (Part 2 of 2) | Author, podcaster, farmer, and poet, Brendan Graham Dempsey, brings passion, dedication, clarity, and outstanding scholarship to the fascinating and enormously important study of cultural evolution, which operates on both a personal level and a collective one. He illuminates how, when, and why we shift from one cultural worldview to the next, using his own life's journey through the cultural stages as a map and paints colorful portraits of the outstanding characteristics of each stage: traditional/premodern, modern, postmodern, and metamodern. Brendan enlightens us as to the tumultuous and often lonely and despairing time that occurs when our prior stage has been deconstructed and we find ourselves between worldviews in a liminal space where sensemaking fails. As he puts it, we live in certain worlds to help us navigate reality. But then things change, and we bump up against the limits of things. Now the time has come to update our sense of the world; we are invited to expand and grow.We come to understand why it is necessary for cultures to evolve—to accommodate ever increasing complexity—and why culture wars and confusion result from misunderstanding a worldview that infiltrates your psyche before it's ready. Brendan explains why postmodernism does not serve us now, introducing and inviting us to the new, emerging worldview of metamodernism, where there is hope in positivity, affirmation, and aspirational idealism. Hope, and the promise of coming together in a new understanding among peoples, a prerequisite for dealing with the challenges of the global crises that affect us all. Brendan brings a big heart, keen mind, and a lot of verve to these complex subjects, which come alive under his brilliant tutelage. As he points out, deconstructing the psyche can help save the world, adding, this is a lot of what the metamodern community is trying to get the word out about. Recorded May 1, 2024.“Metamodernism is a worldview of worldviews, a cultural logic of cultural logics, trying to expand beyond the frame we have been working in…to a framework where we can relate to each other in deeper ways, and find deeper modes of understanding, compassion, and empathy with one another.“(For Apple Podcast users, click here to view the complete show notes on the episode page.)Topics & Time Stamps – Part 2How do the Civil Rights movement and other awareness expanding movements fit into cultural evolution? (00:57)Postmodernism in academia (06:21)Postmodern art, films, punk, grunge—a response to how superficial the suburban world has become (07:30)To move out of the cynical and skeptical, your critique can't be all cynical too—you've got to start affirming things (08:22)Thus metamodernism: a turn to sincerity, earnestness, moving through irony (10:54)How metamodernism shows up in the arts—like with many worldviews, the artist often shows up as forerunner of the shift in stages (14:28)Metamodernism is a move towards hope, values, aspirational idealism—from negativity to positivity (16:23)Postmodern academia profoundly needs a paradigm shift because all categories of knowledge have been deconstructed (19:52)Culture wars and the confusion that results from misunderstanding a worldview that infiltrates your psyche before it's ready to assimilate it (23:32)Metamodernism offers tools to help bring clarity...

Ep. 133 (Part 1 of 2) | Author, podcaster, farmer, and poet, Brendan Graham Dempsey, brings passion, dedication, clarity, and outstanding scholarship to the fascinating and enormously important study of cultural evolution, which operates on both a personal level and a collective one. He illuminates how, when, and why we shift from one cultural worldview to the next, using his own life's journey through the cultural stages as a map and paints colorful portraits of the outstanding characteristics of each stage: traditional/premodern, modern, postmodern, and metamodern. Brendan enlightens us as to the tumultuous and often lonely and despairing time that occurs when our prior stage has been deconstructed and we find ourselves between worldviews in a liminal space where sensemaking fails. As he puts it, we live in certain worlds to help us navigate reality. But then things change, and we bump up against the limits of things. Now the time has come to update our sense of the world; we are invited to expand and grow.We come to understand why it is necessary for cultures to evolve—to accommodate ever increasing complexity—and why culture wars and confusion result from misunderstanding a worldview that infiltrates your psyche before it's ready. Brendan explains why postmodernism does not serve us now, introducing and inviting us to the new, emerging worldview of metamodernism, where there is hope in positivity, affirmation, and aspirational idealism. Hope, and the promise of coming together in a new understanding among peoples, a prerequisite for dealing with the challenges of the global crises that affect us all. Brendan brings a big heart, keen mind, and a lot of verve to these complex subjects, which come alive under his brilliant tutelage. As he points out, deconstructing the psyche can help save the world, adding, this is a lot of what the metamodern community is trying to get the word out about. Recorded May 1, 2024.“It's absolutely essential that some folks, anyway, try to break through to this other way of seeing that can get us beyond the limits of our worldviews at the moment…in a way that allows us to keep moving forward rather than back.“(For Apple Podcast users, click here to view the complete show notes on the episode page.)Topics & Time Stamps – Part 1Introducing cultural evolution pioneer, author, poet, farmer, and spiritual podcaster, Brendan Graham Dempsey (01:35)What are the stages our culture has been through? (03:13)Premodern is the traditional stage, linked to the great Axial Age religions that started up around 500 BC (04:56)Modernity was initiated with the move out of the Middle Ages into the Renaissance; postmodernity flowered in the mid 20th century; metamodernity dawned around 2000 (06:14)What are the more subtle differences that constitute these shifts between cultures or worldviews? (07:19)Language is the medium that shapes us individually and shapes how culture plays out: using a psychological lens to look at the complexification process of modes of thought (08:59)The relation between metamodern and integral thought and the new emerging stage of consciousness (12:10)Cultural evolution plays out at the individual level too (16:37)Brendan's characterization of cultural stages based on his own life's development, beginning with his youth in a traditional household, where faith relates to day-to-day living and miracles happen (17:58)Brendan's...

John and Maria will look at two commencement speeches that drew criticism this week and the philosophical shift from post-modernism to something called Metamodernism.   Recommendations When We Can't Remember Why Wrong is Wrong by Maria Baer The Exodus Project: A Jewish Answer to the University Crisis Segment 1 - Graduation Speeches  Full Text: Harrison Butker of Kansas City Chiefs Graduation Speech  Three of the Greatest Commencement Speeches of All Time Breakpoint: Solzhenitsyn at Harvard: A Graduation Speech to Remember Jerry Seinfeld's Commencement Speech at Duke 2024  Segment 2 - Metamodernism Goodbye Postmodernism, Hello Metamodernism  __________ Learn more about the Alliance Defending Freedom at JoinADF.com/colson. 

Process thinker Jared Morningstar joins me to discuss the relationship of metamodernism to traditional forms of religion. How can engaging the traditional frame be done without losing hard-won gains in complexity and perspective-taking? Here Jared advocates for an open, flexible, and epistemically humble form of experimentation and participation in different religious modalities. We consider the role of 'causal opacity' in religious functionality and whether reflection is inherently harmful to generating emergent potential in religious contexts. We also explore the ways traditional faiths may be genuinely engaging with hyper-complex phenomena and how tradition-specific language can be helpful in extending faith into metamodernity. Finally, we discuss the role of plurality and singularity, the general and the particular, in what it means to engage religion from a metamodern perspective. 0:00 Introduction 1:34 Reaction vs. Reconstruction: Which Direction Is Calling? 10:50 Unseen Causes: Participatory Experimentation and Epistemic Humility 17:43 Breaking the Frame: Causation, Disenchantment, and Etic vs. Emic Perspectives 24:25 Moving In and Out of Tradition: Looking Back or Going Back? 35:24 Superstition or Super-Complexity? Parsing Tradition's Relationship with Hyperobjects 50:03 Beyond Perennialism: Religious Pluralism and Traditional Particularity 1:03:09 Living the Openness 1:10:59 Orienting Value in the Uncertainty 1:18:46 Integrating the General and the Particular: Heading Out and Coming Home 1:23:33 Conclusion

A constant, unchoreographed dance of tension and harmony, of structure and emergence, of psychological safety and sincerity, of client and group: facilitation is an artful balancing act.And my guest this week Dr Jason Fox, is a master of equilibrium. A wise and mercurial keynote speaker and facilitator, he straddles the opposing realms of speaker presence and facilitator invisibility with shapeshifting ability, fusing deep philosophical thinking with meaningful future action.We ride the facilitation see-saw in episode 266, exploring the alchemic balance of the facilitator, soaring from beautiful philosophies and the ideal conditions for achieving progress, dipping into Vipassana learnings and the potential of a spacious agenda.Jason fills our conversation with such wisdom, charm and intrigue, I hope an hour with him leaves you feeling as inspired as I was.Find out about:Why the alchemy of cooking is like that of facilitation, both requiring acuity, synthesis, and intuitionThe difference between meaningful progress vs. delusional progressPsychological safety: is there such a thing as too much? Can it lead the group into a state of toxic sincerity?The importance of seeking healthy conflict from a place of psychological safetyStriking the balance of imperfection and friction, from the tools we use, to the environment we chooseJason's teachings from meta-modernism, meta-rationality, Vipassana, and Indigenous Australian philosophyDon't miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.And download the free 1-page summary, so you can always have the key points of this episode to hand.Links:Watch the video recording of this episode on YouTube.Connect to Jason Fox:On LinkedInhttps://foxwizard.com https://drjasonfox.com/Support the showCheck out Dr Myriam Hadnes' NeverDoneBefore Facilitation Community and Facilitation Courses **Use the interactive podcast map to navigate all podcast episodes **If you enjoy the show, consider a one-off donation and contribute to the ongoing costs of running the podcast.

Brendan Graham Dempsey is an author, thinker, and youtuber who has thought deeply about the topic of metamodernism. We discuss what that even is, and what is means for a vibrant Christianity going forward. We mention  @johnvervaeke  , Jordan Hall, Soren Kierkegaard, Virginia Woolf, Hans Nollein, Fr. Stephen DeYoung, Athanasius, James Tabor, and many more. Brendan Graham Dempsey's youtube channel :  @BrendanGrahamDempsey  Sky Meadow Institute: https://skymeadowretreat.com/institute/ Brendan Graham Dempsey on  @PaulVanderKlay  : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee8wKcBRyy4

Sam Pepin joins the show to share his entrepreneurial journey and discuss continuous learning, building a team, and marketing strategies.  Why are community and meaning so important to marketing?  How can you build a demand-driven business?  What's the secret to defeating imposter syndrome?  Sam, Camden, and Otis dive into all this and more on this fantastic episode!!More About Sam:  Sam is a visionary with the talent and determination to energize services, products, and ideas that change lives, providing them with the necessary marketing to achieve their goals. He is a connector at heart who leads by putting values at the forefront, thereby setting an example of what it means and represents to be a great company. He is the founder and CEO of Sam & Associates, a visionary business development company committed to revolutionizing the business growth landscape. Our mission is bold: to redefine the essence of business expansion through a sophisticated, science-based methodology that ensures complete excellence in all operational dimensions. With a particular focus on the six key functional departments of marketing, operations, finance, human resources, IT, and customer relations, my role is to skillfully weave each sector into a homogeneous tapestry of efficiency and innovation. We are not just consultants; we are the brains behind business evolution, dedicated to orchestrating a harmonious symphony of strategy and execution that resonates with progress and sustainability. In November of 2023, this dedication to innovation led the marketing branch of Sam & Associates to merge with Core Creative Group. This pivotal move was strengthened by an alliance with The Learning Code Institute, culminating in the co-founding of the premier neuroscience-based marketing agency, CoreCentrica. This new venture elevated our capabilities, positioning us as the partner of choice for Fortune 500 companies such as Sony, American Express, and Acer, thereby amplifying our impact on the global business stage. Our approach is one of intellectual rigor, fueled by cutting-edge research and data analysis. We dissect and reconstruct a company's operational core, fostering an ecosystem where each component synchronizes to catalyze overall growth. Through CoreCentrica, we've harnessed the power of neuroscience to further refine our methodology, ensuring that our strategies are not only innovative but deeply rooted in the science of human behavior and decision-making.0:02 - Intro2:10 - Data-Focused Marketing 10:13 - Community & Meaning13:25 - Building on Demand 25:33 - Teaching Others33:42 - Metamodernism & Leadership 42:45 - Getting Knocked Down45:50 - Products vs Services 50:00 - EndSam PepinWebsite: https://www.sam-associates.com/

A rebroadcast of a chat hosts Andy Cleff, Ben Au-Yeung, Serge Marten, and Jay Hrcsko had with Dave Snowden about Spiral Dynamics, Integral Theory, and Metamodernism.  We explore thru a Boxian lens "All models are wrong, but some are useful."  Are these effective tools for organizations to gain new perspectives on themselves? Are there other potentially better ways to journey in complex adaptive systems? Contact Information LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-snowden-2a93b/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/snowded Website Books/Articles/Videos Events About the Agile Uprising If you enjoyed this episode, please give us a review, a rant, or leave comments on your podcasting platform of choice. It really helps others find us.  Much thanks to the artist  from  who provided us our outro music free-of-charge!  If you like what you heard,     to find more music you might enjoy! If you'd like to join the discussion and share your stories,  please jump into the fray at our  We at the Agile Uprising are committed to being totally free.  However, if you'd like to contribute and help us defray hosting and production costs we do have a .  Who knows, you might even get some surprises in the mail!

I'm joined by Integral thinker, theorist, teacher, writer, and community elder Bruce Alderman to talk about the ongoing love/hate relationship between metamodernism and Integral Theory, especially as the debate has been stirred up anew by the publication of my new book Metamodernism: Or, The Cultural Logic of Cultural Logics. Here we tackle some of the ongoing controversies that continue to swirl in some parts of the metamodern discourse, especially around the degree to which Ken Wilber and his formulation of the post-postmodern does/does not, should/should not inform our understanding of theories of the metamodern. Given the relationship that does exist, how do we best acknowledge and utilize it in pragmatic and integrous ways? How do we properly parse and distinguish these post-postmodern paradigms? What are the genuine fault lines and distinguishing characteristics of each framework, and what's just meme fluff? 0:00 Introduction (1:16, 3:30 Bruce card) 1:55 Bruce's Integral Context/Background 5:06 Brendan's Metamodern Context/Background 8:07 Did Hanzi Just Rip Off Wilber? 13:03 Did Hanzi Just Steal the Term "Metamodern" for an Integral Framework? 25:26 Has the Ship Sailed? Could Metamodernism Be the Future of Integral? 42:48 Did Brendan Just Excise/Ignore Wilber? 51:33 Does Metamodernism Offer a Workable Social Science Where Integral Doesn't? 1:01:03 The "Woo" Factor 1:14:15 Conclusion

Brendan Graham Dempsey is a writer who's work focuses on the meaning crisis and the reconstruction of spirituality after postmodernism. He holds a BA in religious studies from the University of Vermont and a master's in religion and art from Yale University. He is the author of the 7-volume Metamodern Spirituality Series and, most recently, Metamodernism: Or, The Cultural Logic of Cultural Logics. In this episode, we discuss metamodernism. What is it? How did it emerge? What will religion look like in the metamodern era? https://www.youtube.com/@BrendanGrahamDempsey Exclusive access to the full, unedited 2-hour conversation is available to patrons: https://www.patreon.com/posts/exclusive-access-94836558?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link Become a patron on Patreon and get bonus Q&A Episodes, resources, opportunities for live discussions on Zoom, and access to our community Discord server: www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast

For the 37th episode of the Integral Stage Authors Series, Layman meets again prolific metamodern author and friend of the channel, Brendan Graham Dempsey, to talk about his latest book, "Metamodernism: Or, The Cultural Logic of Cultural Logics." In this much needed work, Brendan surveys the variety of "metamodernisms" that have emerged in recent years and, using some integrative distinctions, argues for their deep kinship and complementarity. Brendan Graham Dempsey is a writer whose work focuses on the meaning crisis and the nature of spirituality in metamodernity. He earned his BA in Religious Studies from the University of Vermont and his MA in Religion and the Arts from Yale University. He lives in Wolcott, Vermont. Metamodernism: Or, The Cultural Logic of Cultural Logics https://www.amazon.com/Metamodernism-... Follow The Integral Stage on the Fathom app https://hello.fathom.fm/ Support The Integral Stage on Patreon!   / theintegralstage   Special thanks and big love to Shai Newman, the Limited Hangout guys, Brandon LaChance, Mike McElroy, Brandon Norgaard, Brendan Graham Dempsey, Francesca, and all of our other Patreon supporters!

On the transition from the postmodern to the metamodern worldview, Brendans new book Metamodernism: Or, The Cultural Logic of Cultural Logics, the relationsship between MM and systems-theory and how to deal with money/capitalism in a metamodern way. Subscribe to our Substack: https://parallax.substack.com/ Parallax: https://parallax-media.eu Brendan Graham Dempsey is a writer, poet, farmer, and the director of Sky Meadow Institute, an organization dedicated to promoting systems-based thinking about the things that matter most. He holds a BA in religious studies from the University of Vermont and a master's in religion and art from Yale University. He is the author of the 7-volume Metamodern Spirituality Series and, most recently, Metamodernism: Or, The Cultural Logic of Cultural Logics. His primary interests include theorizing developments in culture after postmodernism, productively bridging the divide between science and spirituality, and developing sustainable systems for life to flourish. All of these lead through the paradigms of emergence and complexity, which inform all of his work. Tomas Björkman is an entrepreneur and financier, and has over the past 25 years built innovative international companies in the areas of banking and real estate. His entrepreneurship combined with a keen interest in both society and science led to the creation of the the Ekskäret Foundation in 2008. Tomas himself describes in the forewords of the book ‘Changing the world we create' why he started and is still very involved in foundation: “In my twenties, I had the choice between an academic career in theoretical physics or the world of commerce. I chose the latter and spent twenty-five years in business. Eventually, I sold my company to one of Switzerland's larger banks continuing for a time to serve on its board. But the call of the world of ideas was irresistible. My background in theoretical physics and as an entrepreneur in information technology, investment banking and property development had allowed me to learn about and view our existence from both theoretical and empirical perspectives. My personal drive increasingly became to unlock the hidden structures of the world around me. I sought to bridge many academic fields including cognitive neuroscience, developmental psychology and sociology. I started searching for connections that form the evolving whole. This curiosity led me to spend a decade researching and writing “The World We Create”. I also established the Ekskäret Foundation to facilitate the co-creation of a more conscious society. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/podcast-c709ee4/message

Modernism gave us scientific certainty, which ultimately pushed back against the faith claims of Christianity (and religion in general). Postmodernism taught us there was nothing to be certain about, nothing real to be claimed. Is there a better way? In this episode, Aaron speaks with his guest Brendan Graham Dempsey about what metamodernism is as a new(ish) paradigm for engaging with the world and the potential it holds for Christianity and religions in general.

Today's episode was recorded during a livestream with the Irish, Gen Z theology YouTuber extraordinaire- THEOHOPRACY. Theohopracy invited me on to discuss metamodernism, the Patrick Bateman meme / "sigma male" internet culture, and why there's a growing internet culture of young men attracted to "masculine" paganism. For Theohopracy's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCW1cJ0NQOUA3G3ARqBw4JFw   Become a patron on Patreon and get bonus Q&A Episodes, resources, opportunities for live discussions on Zoom, and access to our community Discord server: www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast

Postmodernism has fallen. All hail the new dumbuy cult: METAMODERNISM. We took its FRESH NEW RADICAL academic wing out for a spin, as seen in this book: https://amzn.to/3So0kKH. Find tons of content from our all-powerful postmodern windmill at https://www.patreon.com/plasticpills

Today's episode is also available in video format at: https://youtu.be/5PTczGpDIPo?si=jcEK_6BEATlnE9Vp In my podcast series on #metamodernism we've been exploring the new cultural and philosophical shift that's happening in the West and how it is changing the way we tell stories and communicate. But what will metamodernism do to Christianity? How might this shift affect Christianity in the West? Should Christians be optimistic or worried?   Support my work on Patreon and get access to bonus episodes, live Zoom discussions, and more: www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast

Subscribe to my relaunched YouTube Channel and watch today's episode: https://youtu.be/sdWKwWLjTXI?si=RkyrfLHkk_gCad62   The band Creed is making a comeback, and it's all thanks to metamodernism. Even the Texas Rangers are using Creed to turn their baseball season around. Let me explain what's going on.   Support my work on Patreon and get access to bonus episodes, live Zoom discussions, and more: patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast

Can Joseph Campbell's "hero's journey" happen within metamodern storytelling?    In today's episode, I help you understand how the structure of great myths like Homer's Illiad and The Odyssey, Tolkien's Lord of the Rings, and Star Wars can still exist within the emerging metamodern storytelling aesthetic. We'll explore how the critically acclaimed animated "Spider-verse" movies (Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse & Across the Spider-Verse) give us a brilliant example of a metamodern hero's journey. If you find this podcast helpful and want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon? You're not only supporting this podcast, but you are also supporting my free Substack page and YouTube channel. We need 200 patrons to ensure that my work can continue in 2023. https://www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast   Connect with Paul Anleitner on Twitter at: https://twitter.com/PaulAnleitner

There's a cultural shift in how we are telling stories, and it's a relatively new phenomenon. It's something different from postmodernism but still incorporates elements from modernism and postmodernism.  Philosophers are just barely beginning to grasp what is happening; some call it metamodernism. In today's episode, we'll explore the shift from modernism to postmodernism and into metamodernism through the genre of the American sitcom so that you can notice the distinct flavors of each that take place across genres of storytelling and the arts.  From The Cosby Show and Home Improvement to Seinfeld and into Joe Pera Talks With You,  how is metamodern comedy shifting towards offering people a sense of sacredness and transcendence in their seemingly meaningless mundane lives? If you find this podcast helpful and want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon? You're not only supporting this podcast, but you are also supporting my free Substack page and YouTube channel. We need 200 patrons to ensure that my work can continue in 2023. https://www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast   Connect with Paul Anleitner on Twitter at: https://twitter.com/PaulAnleitner

What does Once Upon a Time In Hollywood and Barbie have in common? They're both examples of “Metamodernism." Writer M. Elizabeth Eller explains it all!

This week, Brit unpacks "Parasocial" with Metamodernism podcast host, Alexander Woell. Alexander is brilliant, fascinating and kind soul and host of the fantastical Metamodernism podcast, where he interviews people about "life in the metamodern age and the films, television shows, and music that shape how we see the world." LINKS: Listen to Metamodernism on Spotify and Apple podcasts. SOURCES: Wikipedia, Very Well Mind MUSIC: "Lofi Study", "Good Night" (FASSounds). ©2023 Britton Rice. Tin Whisper Media.

There's a cultural shift in how we are telling stories, and it's a relatively new phenomenon. You can see it in Everything Everywhere All at Once, Barbie, Wes Anderson movies, and Shrek. Yes, I said Shrek.  It's something different from postmodernism but still uses postmodernism.  Philosophers are just barely beginning to grasp what is happening; some call it metamodernism. In this series, I'm going to explain what metamodernism is all about and help you identify it in popular culture. If you find this podcast helpful and want to see it continue ad-free, would you consider becoming a supporter on Patreon? You're not only supporting this podcast, but you are also supporting my free Substack page and YouTube channel. We need 200 patrons to ensure that my work can continue in 2023. https://www.patreon.com/deeptalkstheologypodcast   Connect with Paul Anleitner on Twitter at: https://twitter.com/PaulAnleitner

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit michaelgarfield.substack.com...about AI, art, culture, celebrity, identity, and trauma.Before we begin: I'm teaching a six-week online course on science, philosophy, economics, media, and dinosaurs! Join me at NuraLearning.com for Jurassic Worlding, a psychedelic deep dive into self-fulfilling techno-thrillers and the analog-digital transition, starting August 1st!The course is now pay-what-you-can thanks to the generosity of our learning platform…everyone into the pool for my first “Michael plays professor” cohort!This week on Future Fossils, I'm joined by returning guest my friend Scout Rainer Wiley, metamodern ritual artist, expectation-defying wunderkind, and host of the blog and podcast The Oscillator's Stone for a conversation about…well…Here, I'm going to let the superb language model at Podium.Page break it down for you. I wouldn't call this list “exhaustive” since we let the ADHD faeries carry our discussion wherever they liked, but I'm pretty impressed with this briefing:Key Takeaways:1. The episode delves into the complex intersection of art, culture, and artificial intelligence. It brings to light the implications of AI on our lives, potentially liberating us from the attention economy and the idea of work as a requirement for survival.2. The conversation touches upon the significance of local scenes in the era of globalization and scrutinizes the perils of celebrity worship.3. Intellectual property rights and ownership boundaries in the age of late capitalism are explored, sparking a debate about fairness and the redistribution of wealth in an increasingly digital and AI-driven world.4. The episode delves into socio-economic issues, discussing how rising real estate prices and the scarcity of affordable housing impact culture.Unanswered Questions and Potential Inquiries:1. How can AI be used to promote cultural diversity rather than appropriating and diluting it?2. How can the power of AI be harnessed to address socio-economic issues such as housing affordability?3. Can AI help us understand and navigate the complexities of celebrity culture, or will it exacerbate the problems?4. What does the future of intellectual property rights look like in an age of increasingly advanced AI?5. How can the insights of indigenous and black sci-fi writers inform our approach to the future?6. As technology continues to reshape our world, how do we maintain the importance of local scenes and individuality?7. How can the lessons of metamodernism inform our approach to the future, particularly in relation to technology and AI?8. Can AI play a role in addressing ancestral traumas, and if so, how?Overall, this podcast episode offers a thought-provoking exploration of the intersections of art, culture, and AI, sparking questions about our future in an increasingly AI-driven world.HA! Wow. There you have it. Imagine all that only through the filter of two delightfully bizarre transmedia philosopher-artists at their Casual Friday best.✨ Chapters:(0:00:00) - Culture's Impact on Art Exploration(0:06:16) - AI's Impact on Work and Culture(0:21:05) - Scale and Local Scenes(0:27:49) - Scene and Cultural Shift Impact(0:33:42) - Doom, Hope, and the World Reflections(0:48:54) - Metamodernism, Apocalyptic Themes, and Personal Reflections(0:58:38) - Exploring Ancestral Traumas and Embracing Romanticism(1:05:49) - Exploring Popularity, Culture, and the Future✨ Mentions:Future Fossils 195 - Emergency AI Art Panel with Topher Sipes, Jamie Curcio, Evo Heyning, Julian Picaza, and Micah DaigleMusic in this episode:“Biome Seven” from Biosphere Dreaming“The Luminous Night” from Empty FramesJohnny DeppAnson MountWeezer - “My Name is Jonas”Pierre-August Cot - The Storm (painting)Donald TrumpStuart Davis - Bright ApocalypseElroy CraichDaniel Görtz + Michael Garfield + Tom Amarque on metamodern deep futurismStar Trek: Strange New Worlds (TV series)Taylor Swift - “Blank Space” (music video)MitskiHarley Quin (Batman franchise)Queen's Gambit (TV series)Victoria Nelson - The Secret Life of PuppetsMichael Garfield - “In Defense of Star Trek: Picard and Discovery”✨ Support Future Fossils:Subscribe anywhere you go for podcasts.Subscribe to the podcast PLUS essays, music, and news on Substack or Patreon.Buy my original paintings or commission new work.Buy my music on Bandcamp.Follow me and my annually-updated listening recommendations on Spotify.Join our lively members-only Facebook Group and public-facing Discord Server (with patron channels) for rewarding discourse on tap every day!✨ Tip Jars:@futurefossils on Venmo$manfredmacx on CashAppmichaelgarfield on PayPal✨ Affiliate Links:• Find all the books I mention in the show at the Future Fossils Bookshop.org page!• Help regulate stress, get better sleep, recover from exercise, and/or stay alert and focused without stimulants, with the Apollo Neuro wearable. I have one and while I don't wear it all the time, when I do it's sober healthy drugs.• BioTech Life Sciences makes anti-aging and performance enhancement formulas that work directly at the level of cellular nutrition, both for ingestion and direct topical application. I'm a firm believer in keeping NAD+ levels up and their skin solution helped me erase a year of pandemic burnout from my face.• Podium.Page is a very cool new AI service for podcast show notes I'm happy to endorse. Sign up here and get three free hours and 50% off your first month.• And musicians, let me recommend you get yourself a Jamstik Studio, the coolest MIDI guitar I've ever played. I LOVE mine. 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BONUS: Kateri Gormley, Gomer's oldest, joins us on the show to make fun of her dad for 10 minutes. Top Gun: Maverick which Tom Cruise used to save movie theaters, is a welcomed change of pace, but also is out of place. YouTuber Thomas Flight breaks down Modern movies (High Noon), Postmodern movies (No Country for Old Men, Pulp Fiction) and Metamodern movies (Everything, Everywhere, All at Once) to talk about this. Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xEi8qg266g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xEi8qg266g) Title: Why do Movies Feel So Different Now? Tradition defined as the meta-narrative creating worldviews of religion and civilizations of yesteryear. Tradition, with its categories, roles, and super-stories, pull everyone and everything into an ordered and meaningful cosmos. Modernism denies tradition's ability to deal with reality as it is, drawing on science and reason for real progress. This was begun philosophically with Descartes and Bacon and others, but really becomes the cultural vibe starting in the late 1800s and continuing until World War 2, when the notion of progress blew up 2 cities in Japan. Postmodernism realizes modernism buys into meta-narrative just as much as tradition, but in a different way, by supplying a non-religious meta-narrative. Post-modernism attacks moderism by attacking narrative itself, using deconstruction, irony, self-awareness, etc. We go about unmasking stories to find the will to power beneath. All meta-narratives are powerplays, attempts to manipulate and control the masses. The only way to be free, then, is to be undefined, un-storied. Metamodernism is the art of the exhausted, world-weary response to post-modernist subversions, ironies, deconstructionism, that also knows that you can't simply go back to modernism without feeling corny. So it embraces the deconstruction with an affirming sentiment in the heart-felt chaos. "Cherish these moments" even though these moments are meaningless. It is an oscillation between the delight in narrative and the seriousness of deconstruction and self-reflection. Back and forth, generating moments of delight or fun, knowing all the while it is fake, false, and meaningless. (See "Babylon" or "The Fablemen" or "Nope" that tries to mock that which unabashedly is). This video by Thomas Flight does a great job in tying together previous conversations we have had about David Foster Wallace's talk on the usefulness of irony (1950s and 1960s America) and when it becomes a deeply disturbing problem as it becomes the norm (1980s onward). We now get what post-modern movies are trying to do because they've been doing it for decades now, only with bigger budgets and with superheroes: "Ok, I get it, you've subverted my expectations yet again. Wow. But only you didn't, because I knew you would do exactly that. I saw it coming". Gomer's example is Amazon's newest season of the Jack Ryan series. When the selfless friend and philanthropist, the head of W.H.O., turned out to actually be an off-the-charts drug-dealing, torturing psychopath, my wife and I were like, “Yeah. Sure. Whatever.” It fell flat because it was more of the same plot-twisting nothing. Another aspect of the rise of post-modernism and meta-modernism: You know you're getting rich as an artist while real suffering is happening all around you and in the world, even in the lives of the people who love and watch your movies or enjoy your art. So, you draw attention to the process self-reflectively. You point out that, yeah, this is silly, but it's fun. Maybe we can have fun together doing this. This is why there is a compulsion to stand up on stage at whatever awards ceremony and become an activist. You don't just thank your cast and crew, but must draw attention to the evils in the world around you and condemn them.

The plot of the television series (streaming on Peacock) Mrs. Davis follows Betty Gilpin as Sister Simone, a nun who goes to war against a peace-keeping artificial intelligence called Mrs. Davis that has quietly taken over the minds of the world. A fascinating and “of the moment” premise, to be sure. Yet, rather than develop into any kind of meaningful thought experiment that evolves that age-old debate about “faith versus reason” into something more specific to our times — “faith versus technology” — the series sputters and convulses, dedicating more time to bizarre and violent set pieces and mildly amusing sights than excavating its own genius premise. In essence, the show is weird for the sake of being weird. Everything Everywhere All at Once (2022) cleaned house at the Oscars, with some calling it the most acclaimed film ever made. In the wake of the film's release, serious attention was given to the idea of “metamodern” storytelling, of which Everything Everywhere All at Once and Mrs. Davis are pristine examples. What is metamodern storytelling, exactly? So, a “metamodern” approach to storytelling would be a story that exchanges traditional storytelling methods for irony and satire. It is, in some ways, the next stage of evolution of the mindset that gave birth to “deconstructionist” storytelling, which sought to break down traditional narrative structures in stories. However, when that satire and irony is employed in a way that has no interest in reproving, rebuking, or teaching, then perhaps Christians should begin weighing the validity of the assessment.This Postmodern Realities episode is a conversation with JOURNAL author Cole Burgett about his review article, “Mrs. Davis TV Series Review and Metamodernism“. **Editor's Note: This article and podcast contains spoilers for Mrs. Davis.** Other recent articles and Postmodern Realities podcasts featuring this author: Episode 340 Finding Family Among the Last of UsFinding Family Among ‘The Last of Us'Episode 335 Let Faith Oust Fact: A Review of The WhaleLet Faith Oust Fact: A Review of The WhaleEpisode 330 Finding Empathy in the Trenches: A Review of Netflix's All Quiet on the Western FrontA Review of the Oscar Winning Netflix's All Quiet on the Western Front-Finding Empathy in the TrenchesEpisode 324 The Way of Family in Avatar: the Way of WaterThe Way of Family in Avatar: the Way of WaterEpisode 318 An Occasion for Just War: A Review of AndorAn Occasion for Just War: A Review of AndorEpisode 314 Tolkien Reimagined: A Series Review of The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of PowerTolkien Reimagined: A Series Review of The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power

Mockup Culture is everywhere these days. We have seen things from Wes Anderson Star Wars to Gucci Spring lookbooks created in MidJourney, the possibilities are truly endless. Join Phillip and Brian as they explore the notion that we now live in a time where any dream can be transformed into reality, no matter how bizarre or outlandish. They explore how prominent brands like Telfar are embracing the concept, utilizing gamified pricing strategies to captivate consumers. As they dissect these phenomena, they unravel the concepts of "hyperstition" and "metamodernism" and examine their implications for the modern consumer. Stay tuned for some content teasers from Phillip and Brian, as they hint at what's to come at our Visions Summit in Chicago.Tonal Shift{00:09:42} “Why does Dollar Shave Club or Glossier choose a Shopify? There's an operational cost associated with selling online and it gets more expensive every day, especially the more custom software you have and the more esoteric your business model is online. By choosing a platform that imposes a constraint on you, theoretically, you can drive the cost down.” - Phillip{00:16:09} “The things that create inherently shareable content and the things that are truly remarkable and worthy of talking about are things that are building so close to the edge of possibility that it requires a tremendous amount of investment.” - Phillip{00:17:18} “What we're seeing, and you wrote a whole article on this recently on mockup culture, is this idea that actually customers and fans and audiences are now having real influence on the greater brand.” - Brian{00:26:02} “Metamodernism is when a piece of content or something is created that's both critique and embrace of something. Some of these mockups are super interesting because they are commentary, they are ironic and sarcastic, but they're also good ideas.” - Brian{00:31:01} “This multifaceted way of engaging in media and art has a direct bearing on commerce because commerce powers it all.” - Phillip{00:40:55} “What algorithmic timelines do and what generative AI allows for people to create through hyperstition is that my idea of Hermes or Gucci or Nike is no longer fundamentally the same as yours.” - Phillip{00:43:41} “It's not personalization so much as your brand is going to hit differently for different people. You need to hit the notes that say the things that you're wanting to say to that person that maybe achieve the same outcome for a different person, but it's done differently.” - BrianAssociated Links:Find out more about The Visions Summit at RICE 2023 and make plans to meet us there!Have you checked out our YouTube channel yet?Subscribe to Insiders and The Senses to read more of what we are witnessing in the commerce world!Listen to our other episodes of Future CommerceHave any questions or comments about the show? Let us know on futurecommerce.com, or reach out to us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, or LinkedIn. We love hearing from our listeners!