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La population mondiale a augmenté de 6 milliards d'habitants au 20e siècle. Peut-on nourrir une planète à 10 milliards d'habitants ? Quel coût pour la vie sauvage ? Un aperçu de cette évolution galopante de la population humaine :Au début de l'agriculture, il y a 12 000 ans, quelques millionsAn 0 : 200 millions1800 : 1 milliardAujourd'hui : presque 8 milliardsDès l'Antiquité, Platon s'interrogeait déjà sur la pénurie de matériaux et de ressources. Mais c'est le prêtre anglican Malthus à l'aube du 19e siècle, qui reste associé à cette peur de la surpopulation. Il préconise de laisser mourir les pauvres en guise de solution. La courbe d'augmentation de la population est en train de s'aplatir : la croissance est d'environ 1% par an, en phase de ralentissement. Aujourd'hui, la plupart des pays occidentaux ont réalisé leur transition démographique. Certains sont nettement en dessous du seuil de seuil des renouvellement des génération : 2,1 enfants par femme: La Corée du Sud est à 0.09, l'Allemagne à 1.3 par exemple. Les débats portent sur les projections du futur en Asie et en Afrique essentiellement. Max nous résume ce qu'il retient de son émission avec Emmanuel Pont, ingénieur et démographe.Cette émission du Greenletter Club est visible ici. _______

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Jürgen von Hagen joins Tim Bayly to discuss fruitfulness, natalism, and fertility demographics. From Malthus to Erlich to many contemporaries—for over two centuries—the prophets of doom have pleaded with mankind to abandon fruitfulness to survive. Modern man—and the Christian church—has only been too willing to obey those false prophets in direct contradiction to God's commands in the creation mandates. Jürgen and Tim discuss the conscious choice Christians should make to be counter-cultural or, in other words, obedient to God regarding fruitfulness. Are we willing to submit the fruitfulness of our marriage beds to God as an act of holiness?"God blessed them; and God said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth'" (Gen. 1:28).Some resources mentioned in the podcast:Malthus, An Essay on the Principle of PopulationErlich, The Population BombBricker & Ibbitson, Empty Planet: The Shock of Global Population DeclineIsmail, The Age of Decay: How Aging and Shrinking Populations Could Usher in the Decline of CivilizationMurray, Principles of ConductPakaluk, Hannah's Children: The Women Quietly Defying the Birth Dearth ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

durée : 00:59:18 - Entendez-vous l'éco ? - par : Aliette Hovine, Bruno Baradat - En 1798, Thomas Malthus, prêtre anglican né à Dorking en 1766, publie anonymement "L'Essai sur le principe de population". Plusieurs fois réédité, sous son identité cette fois, il participe à faire de Malthus un des principaux économistes de l'école classique. - réalisation : Françoise Le Floch - invités : Grégory Ponthière Professeur d'économie à l'ENS Rennes, chercheur au Centre de recherche en économie et management (CREM)

A l'occasion de la Journée mondiale de Darwin, le 12 février, BSG rediffuse une série consacrée au père de la théorie de l'Évolution.Dans L'origine des espèces, Darwin innove par sa logique, enchaînant des faits et des déductions logiques. Alors que le transformisme de Lamarck n'était qu'une hypothèse ouverte, Darwin pose la réalité de la transformation des espèces, dont il explique le mécanisme. La variation des animaux et des plantes est un fait prouvé par la sélection artificielle pratiquée par les jardiniers et les éleveurs. Par ailleurs, Darwin souligne la contradiction apparente entre la tendance à un accroissement exponentiel des populations et le fait que dans la réalité, les populations sont en équilibre avec leur milieu. Un facteur de régulation éliminatoire doit donc exister.Darwin se saisit alors du modèle de Thomas Malthus, qui prédit une lutte pour l'existence (la fameuse expression struggle for life). Les "vainqueurs" de cette lutte sont les individus les mieux adaptés (survival of the fittest, la survie du mieux adapté). Conclusion : chaque espèce se transforme au hasard, dans toutes les directions. Les variants les mieux adaptés sont favorisés et donc retenus par l'évolution. Le Darwinisme n'a jamais été refuté, même s'il a été affiné depuis. Il a été le point de départ d'autres théories, lesquelles ont eu une validité et un destin divers…Dessin ©Jonathan Munoz chez Glénat_______ 

A l'occasion de la Journée mondiale de Darwin, le 12 février, BSG rediffuse une série consacrée au père de la théorie de l'Évolution.En 1859, Darwin publie L'origine des espèces, qui fonde la théorie moderne de l'évolution et introduit l'idée de sélection naturelle. Certains de ses partisans, trop pressés d'appliquer ces notions à l'homme, se lancent dans des interprétations dangereuses… Le darwinisme social (terme inventé en 1880) désigne la doctrine de Herbert Spencer, en partie inspirée des idées Malthus (qui pourraient se résumer à "laissons crever les pauvres en surnombre"). Elle justifie en tous cas l'élimination des moins aptes. Cette doctrine recommande de ne prendre aucune mesure pour protéger socialement les faibles. Darwin a défendu publiquement le contraire. Darwin a par ailleurs combattu le racisme. Il constate que le contact culturel (pour ne pas dire la colonisation) se traduisait parfois par l'extinction des peuples dominés, à cause de la barbarie dite civilisatrice des colonisateurs. La notion d'eugénisme viendra de Francis Galton, à la suite des idées de Spencer. Il prétend que la "civilisation", protectrice des faibles, a anéanti le pouvoir améliorateur de la sélection naturelle . Seule la sélection artificielle peut s'opposer à la dégénérescence. En 1871, Darwin rejette cette interprétation, au nom même de la civilisation, qu'il définit en termes d'extension indéfinie de la "sympathie". Mais c'est trop tard… Dès 1905, les États-Unis sont les précurseurs de mesures eugéniques: stérilisation de malades et de pauvres, chasse aux épileptiques, euthanasies etc. L'un des laboratoires de l'eugénisme nazi (celui du psychiatre Ernst Rüdin) est subventionné par la Fondation Rockefeller. L'Europe connaît avec le nazisme un des plus monstrueux avatars de ce darwinisme social…_______Pour réécouter le premier épisode:https://bit.ly/darwin_1_BSG _______

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The boys drink and review an English Mild from Schaffly, then discuss different approaches to population. Pigweed starts the show with the startling facts about population and how rapidly we got from 1 billion to 8 billion so quickly -- with no apparent signs of stopping. Malthus raised the concern that population can increase geometrically, but food production increases arithmetically, and predicted widespread starvation. In fact, food production skyrocketed, so the problem has been averted for now. Paul Erlich has been riding a similar issue for decades even though all his predictions turned out false as well. We didn't poison everything, the air is cleaner, and there has not been widespread disease and famine. The reality is more complicated. Population growth is not only slowing, but in many areas it's negative. The most recent trends indicate that population will level off in about 2050. Even if population only levels off, that still creates problems. The ratio between young and old would change dramatically, and the geniuses who invented our social support systems assumed an ever-growing population, where young people outnumbered old people. However, population might not only level off, but may decline. Rapidly. We have no economic or social models for that. Who welcomes this decline and who is worried about it? What are their motives?

Charles Dickens's A Christmas Carol is a timeless tale cherished for its powerful story of transformation. Yet beneath its heartwarming narrative lies a deeper commentary on economics, generosity, and faith—one that challenges the worldview of scarcity and embraces God's abundance.Today, Jerry Bowyer will dive into the philosophical and theological themes within the story and help us discover what we can learn from Ebenezer Scrooge's journey.Jerry Bowyer is the President of Bowyer Research and our Resident Economist here at Faith & Finance. He is the author of “The Maker Versus the Takers: What Jesus Really Said About Social Justice and Economics.”The "Surplus Population" MindsetOne of the most striking moments in A Christmas Carol is Scrooge's cold remark about the “surplus population.” This phrase reflects an ideology rooted in the teachings of Reverend Thomas Malthus, an 18th-century economist who believed that population growth would outpace resources, leading to widespread poverty. Malthus advocated for limiting population growth, particularly among the poor.Scrooge's initial worldview mirrors this philosophy: a belief that resources are scarce, people are a burden, and the poor are expendable. This mindset not only disregards the inherent dignity of every person but also misrepresents the nature of God as generous and abundant.A Christmas Carol: A Response to MalthusianismDickens wrote A Christmas Carol as a critique of Malthusian ideas. Through Scrooge's transformation, the story reveals the flaws in a worldview of scarcity. Scrooge begins the story isolated, stingy, and bitter—seeing others as competitors for limited resources. By the end, he embraces generosity, community, and joy, reflecting the biblical truth that humans are created in God's image to love, create, and give.The Ghost of Christmas Present drives this point home by challenging Scrooge's cold logic. In one scene, he rebukes Scrooge, asking, “Are you the surplus population?” This moment underscores that no one is surplus in God's economy. Every person is valuable, created for a purpose, and capable of contributing to human flourishing.The transformation of Scrooge's mindset from scarcity to abundance aligns with a biblical view of God's provision. In Genesis 1:28, God commands humanity to “be fruitful and multiply” and to “fill the earth and subdue it.” Far from being burdens, people are creators and contributors, reflecting God's creative nature.History supports this biblical principle. During Dickens' time, industrial and economic advancements were lifting many out of poverty. Contrary to Malthus' predictions, human ingenuity and collaboration were unlocking unprecedented prosperity. Dickens weaves this reality into A Christmas Carol, showing how generosity and a thriving community lead to abundance.Lessons from Scrooge's RedemptionScrooge's transformation offers timeless lessons:Embrace Generosity: The turning point in Scrooge's story is his decision to give freely to others. Generosity reflects God's character and opens the door to joy and community.Value Every Life: Tiny Tim, a child who might be dismissed as “surplus” in Scrooge's old mindset, symbolizes hope and purpose. Dickens reminds us that every life is precious in God's eyes.Challenge Scarcity Thinking: Scarcity thinking breeds fear, isolation, and selfishness. By contrast, faith in God's abundance allows us to live with open hands and hearts.Redeem the Past: Scrooge's journey with the Ghost of Christmas Past shows how trauma and hardship can shape our worldview. Yet, we can move beyond our past to live in freedom and generosity through grace, healing, and community.The themes of A Christmas Carol remain relevant in our world. Modern ideologies that devalue life, promote fear of overpopulation or prioritize self-interest mirror the Malthusian philosophy Dickens opposed. As believers, we are called to affirm every person's inherent worth and reflect God's abundant generosity in how we live and give.Just as Scrooge learns, we are not “bugs” competing for limited resources. 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(00:54) Bij klimaatdiscussies gaat het over minder vliegen, minder vlees, minder consumeren. Maar minder mensen? Robert Malthus waarschuwde al voor de gevolgen van de snelle bevolkingsgroei. Hoe moeten we zijn ideeën nu zien? Historicus Geertje Dekkers is te gast.   (13:43) Het Spoor Terug: Waarom praten mensen op het Friese platteland zo weinig over geestelijke problemen? Anne-Goaitske Breteler zocht een historische verklaring voor deze kwestie. Daarover gaat de audiodocumentaire ‘De Friese Stilte', gemaakt door Christianne Alvarado  Een triggerwaarschuwing: in deze documentaire wordt gepraat over zelfdoding. Luisteraars die daarover in gesprek willen kunnen anoniem bellen naar 113 of chatten via 113.nl.    Meer info: https://www.vpro.nl/programmas/ovt/luister/afleveringen/2024/22-12-2024.html#    (https://www.vpro.nl/programmas/ovt/luister/afleveringen/2024/22-12-2024.html#   %20)   (https://www.vpro.nl/programmas/ovt/luister/afleveringen/2024/22-12-2024.html#   %20)

Minder vliegen, minder vlees, minder consumeren, groene energie. In discussies over het klimaat hebben we het vaak over dit soort onderwerpen. Maar over minder mensen hebben we het eigenlijk nooit. De nieuwe documentaire Over bevolking (VPRO) onderzoekt waarom en kijkt naar de gevolgen van de snelle bevolkingsgroei. Dit is niet de eerste keer dat deze gevolgen aan de kaak worden gesteld, weet historicus Geertje Dekkers. Al rond 1800 waarschuwde de Brit Robert Malthus voor overbevolking. Hoe moeten we zijn ideeën nu zien? Zijn ze achterhaald of inmiddels weer actueel geworden? Dekkers schreef een artikel over Malthus in het Historisch Nieuwsblad en is te gast. De documentaire Over bevolking is 23 december rond 20:30 op NPO2 en NPO start te zien.

The holiday season is here, and with it a chance to read or watch Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol. Listen to learn the strange connection between Ebenezer Scrooge, "surplus population" and British economist Rev. Thomas Malthus. Purdue ag economist, Larry DeBoer, explains.

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A radical new reading of eighteenth-century British theorist Thomas Robert Malthus, which recovers diverse ideas about subsistence production and environments later eclipsed by classical economics With the publication of Essay on the Principle of Population and its projection of food shortages in the face of ballooning populations, British theorist Thomas Robert Malthus secured a leading role in modern political and economic thought. In this startling new interpretation, Deborah Valenze reveals how canonical readings of Malthus fail to acknowledge his narrow understanding of what constitutes food production. Valenze returns to the eighteenth-century contexts that generated his arguments, showing how Malthus mobilized a redemptive narrative of British historical development and dismissed the varied ways that people adapted to the challenges of subsistence needs. She uses history, anthropology, food studies, and animal studies to redirect our attention to the margins of Malthus's essay, where activities such as hunting, gathering, herding, and gardening were rendered extraneous. She demonstrates how Malthus's omissions and his subsequent canonization provided a rationale for colonial imposition of British agricultural models, regardless of environmental diversity. By broadening our conception of human livelihoods, Valenze suggests pathways to resistance against the hegemony of Malthusian political economy. The Invention of Scarcity: Malthus and the Margins of History (Yale UP, 2023) invites us to imagine a world where monoculture is in retreat and the margins are recentered as spaces of experimentation, nimbleness, and human flourishing. Deborah Valenze is the Ann Whitney Olin Professor of History at Barnard College. A recipient of numerous fellowships, she has written four previous books on British culture and economic life. She lives in Cambridge, MA, and New York City. Morteza Hajizadeh is a Ph.D. graduate in English from the University of Auckland in New Zealand. His research interests are Cultural Studies; Critical Theory; Environmental History; Medieval (Intellectual) History; Gothic Studies; 18th and 19th Century British Literature. YouTube channel. Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

A radical new reading of eighteenth-century British theorist Thomas Robert Malthus, which recovers diverse ideas about subsistence production and environments later eclipsed by classical economics With the publication of Essay on the Principle of Population and its projection of food shortages in the face of ballooning populations, British theorist Thomas Robert Malthus secured a leading role in modern political and economic thought. In this startling new interpretation, Deborah Valenze reveals how canonical readings of Malthus fail to acknowledge his narrow understanding of what constitutes food production. Valenze returns to the eighteenth-century contexts that generated his arguments, showing how Malthus mobilized a redemptive narrative of British historical development and dismissed the varied ways that people adapted to the challenges of subsistence needs. She uses history, anthropology, food studies, and animal studies to redirect our attention to the margins of Malthus's essay, where activities such as hunting, gathering, herding, and gardening were rendered extraneous. She demonstrates how Malthus's omissions and his subsequent canonization provided a rationale for colonial imposition of British agricultural models, regardless of environmental diversity. By broadening our conception of human livelihoods, Valenze suggests pathways to resistance against the hegemony of Malthusian political economy. The Invention of Scarcity: Malthus and the Margins of History (Yale UP, 2023) invites us to imagine a world where monoculture is in retreat and the margins are recentered as spaces of experimentation, nimbleness, and human flourishing. Deborah Valenze is the Ann Whitney Olin Professor of History at Barnard College. A recipient of numerous fellowships, she has written four previous books on British culture and economic life. She lives in Cambridge, MA, and New York City. Morteza Hajizadeh is a Ph.D. graduate in English from the University of Auckland in New Zealand. His research interests are Cultural Studies; Critical Theory; Environmental History; Medieval (Intellectual) History; Gothic Studies; 18th and 19th Century British Literature. YouTube channel. Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/history

A radical new reading of eighteenth-century British theorist Thomas Robert Malthus, which recovers diverse ideas about subsistence production and environments later eclipsed by classical economics With the publication of Essay on the Principle of Population and its projection of food shortages in the face of ballooning populations, British theorist Thomas Robert Malthus secured a leading role in modern political and economic thought. In this startling new interpretation, Deborah Valenze reveals how canonical readings of Malthus fail to acknowledge his narrow understanding of what constitutes food production. Valenze returns to the eighteenth-century contexts that generated his arguments, showing how Malthus mobilized a redemptive narrative of British historical development and dismissed the varied ways that people adapted to the challenges of subsistence needs. She uses history, anthropology, food studies, and animal studies to redirect our attention to the margins of Malthus's essay, where activities such as hunting, gathering, herding, and gardening were rendered extraneous. She demonstrates how Malthus's omissions and his subsequent canonization provided a rationale for colonial imposition of British agricultural models, regardless of environmental diversity. By broadening our conception of human livelihoods, Valenze suggests pathways to resistance against the hegemony of Malthusian political economy. The Invention of Scarcity: Malthus and the Margins of History (Yale UP, 2023) invites us to imagine a world where monoculture is in retreat and the margins are recentered as spaces of experimentation, nimbleness, and human flourishing. Deborah Valenze is the Ann Whitney Olin Professor of History at Barnard College. A recipient of numerous fellowships, she has written four previous books on British culture and economic life. She lives in Cambridge, MA, and New York City. Morteza Hajizadeh is a Ph.D. graduate in English from the University of Auckland in New Zealand. His research interests are Cultural Studies; Critical Theory; Environmental History; Medieval (Intellectual) History; Gothic Studies; 18th and 19th Century British Literature. YouTube channel. Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/critical-theory

A radical new reading of eighteenth-century British theorist Thomas Robert Malthus, which recovers diverse ideas about subsistence production and environments later eclipsed by classical economics With the publication of Essay on the Principle of Population and its projection of food shortages in the face of ballooning populations, British theorist Thomas Robert Malthus secured a leading role in modern political and economic thought. In this startling new interpretation, Deborah Valenze reveals how canonical readings of Malthus fail to acknowledge his narrow understanding of what constitutes food production. Valenze returns to the eighteenth-century contexts that generated his arguments, showing how Malthus mobilized a redemptive narrative of British historical development and dismissed the varied ways that people adapted to the challenges of subsistence needs. She uses history, anthropology, food studies, and animal studies to redirect our attention to the margins of Malthus's essay, where activities such as hunting, gathering, herding, and gardening were rendered extraneous. She demonstrates how Malthus's omissions and his subsequent canonization provided a rationale for colonial imposition of British agricultural models, regardless of environmental diversity. By broadening our conception of human livelihoods, Valenze suggests pathways to resistance against the hegemony of Malthusian political economy. The Invention of Scarcity: Malthus and the Margins of History (Yale UP, 2023) invites us to imagine a world where monoculture is in retreat and the margins are recentered as spaces of experimentation, nimbleness, and human flourishing. Deborah Valenze is the Ann Whitney Olin Professor of History at Barnard College. A recipient of numerous fellowships, she has written four previous books on British culture and economic life. She lives in Cambridge, MA, and New York City. Morteza Hajizadeh is a Ph.D. graduate in English from the University of Auckland in New Zealand. His research interests are Cultural Studies; Critical Theory; Environmental History; Medieval (Intellectual) History; Gothic Studies; 18th and 19th Century British Literature. YouTube channel. Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/intellectual-history

A radical new reading of eighteenth-century British theorist Thomas Robert Malthus, which recovers diverse ideas about subsistence production and environments later eclipsed by classical economics With the publication of Essay on the Principle of Population and its projection of food shortages in the face of ballooning populations, British theorist Thomas Robert Malthus secured a leading role in modern political and economic thought. In this startling new interpretation, Deborah Valenze reveals how canonical readings of Malthus fail to acknowledge his narrow understanding of what constitutes food production. Valenze returns to the eighteenth-century contexts that generated his arguments, showing how Malthus mobilized a redemptive narrative of British historical development and dismissed the varied ways that people adapted to the challenges of subsistence needs. She uses history, anthropology, food studies, and animal studies to redirect our attention to the margins of Malthus's essay, where activities such as hunting, gathering, herding, and gardening were rendered extraneous. She demonstrates how Malthus's omissions and his subsequent canonization provided a rationale for colonial imposition of British agricultural models, regardless of environmental diversity. By broadening our conception of human livelihoods, Valenze suggests pathways to resistance against the hegemony of Malthusian political economy. The Invention of Scarcity: Malthus and the Margins of History (Yale UP, 2023) invites us to imagine a world where monoculture is in retreat and the margins are recentered as spaces of experimentation, nimbleness, and human flourishing. Deborah Valenze is the Ann Whitney Olin Professor of History at Barnard College. A recipient of numerous fellowships, she has written four previous books on British culture and economic life. She lives in Cambridge, MA, and New York City. Morteza Hajizadeh is a Ph.D. graduate in English from the University of Auckland in New Zealand. His research interests are Cultural Studies; Critical Theory; Environmental History; Medieval (Intellectual) History; Gothic Studies; 18th and 19th Century British Literature. YouTube channel. Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A radical new reading of eighteenth-century British theorist Thomas Robert Malthus, which recovers diverse ideas about subsistence production and environments later eclipsed by classical economics With the publication of Essay on the Principle of Population and its projection of food shortages in the face of ballooning populations, British theorist Thomas Robert Malthus secured a leading role in modern political and economic thought. In this startling new interpretation, Deborah Valenze reveals how canonical readings of Malthus fail to acknowledge his narrow understanding of what constitutes food production. Valenze returns to the eighteenth-century contexts that generated his arguments, showing how Malthus mobilized a redemptive narrative of British historical development and dismissed the varied ways that people adapted to the challenges of subsistence needs. She uses history, anthropology, food studies, and animal studies to redirect our attention to the margins of Malthus's essay, where activities such as hunting, gathering, herding, and gardening were rendered extraneous. She demonstrates how Malthus's omissions and his subsequent canonization provided a rationale for colonial imposition of British agricultural models, regardless of environmental diversity. By broadening our conception of human livelihoods, Valenze suggests pathways to resistance against the hegemony of Malthusian political economy. The Invention of Scarcity: Malthus and the Margins of History (Yale UP, 2023) invites us to imagine a world where monoculture is in retreat and the margins are recentered as spaces of experimentation, nimbleness, and human flourishing. Deborah Valenze is the Ann Whitney Olin Professor of History at Barnard College. A recipient of numerous fellowships, she has written four previous books on British culture and economic life. She lives in Cambridge, MA, and New York City. Morteza Hajizadeh is a Ph.D. graduate in English from the University of Auckland in New Zealand. His research interests are Cultural Studies; Critical Theory; Environmental History; Medieval (Intellectual) History; Gothic Studies; 18th and 19th Century British Literature. YouTube channel. Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/european-studies

A radical new reading of eighteenth-century British theorist Thomas Robert Malthus, which recovers diverse ideas about subsistence production and environments later eclipsed by classical economics With the publication of Essay on the Principle of Population and its projection of food shortages in the face of ballooning populations, British theorist Thomas Robert Malthus secured a leading role in modern political and economic thought. In this startling new interpretation, Deborah Valenze reveals how canonical readings of Malthus fail to acknowledge his narrow understanding of what constitutes food production. Valenze returns to the eighteenth-century contexts that generated his arguments, showing how Malthus mobilized a redemptive narrative of British historical development and dismissed the varied ways that people adapted to the challenges of subsistence needs. She uses history, anthropology, food studies, and animal studies to redirect our attention to the margins of Malthus's essay, where activities such as hunting, gathering, herding, and gardening were rendered extraneous. She demonstrates how Malthus's omissions and his subsequent canonization provided a rationale for colonial imposition of British agricultural models, regardless of environmental diversity. By broadening our conception of human livelihoods, Valenze suggests pathways to resistance against the hegemony of Malthusian political economy. The Invention of Scarcity: Malthus and the Margins of History (Yale UP, 2023) invites us to imagine a world where monoculture is in retreat and the margins are recentered as spaces of experimentation, nimbleness, and human flourishing. Deborah Valenze is the Ann Whitney Olin Professor of History at Barnard College. A recipient of numerous fellowships, she has written four previous books on British culture and economic life. She lives in Cambridge, MA, and New York City. Morteza Hajizadeh is a Ph.D. graduate in English from the University of Auckland in New Zealand. His research interests are Cultural Studies; Critical Theory; Environmental History; Medieval (Intellectual) History; Gothic Studies; 18th and 19th Century British Literature. YouTube channel. Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/economics

A radical new reading of eighteenth-century British theorist Thomas Robert Malthus, which recovers diverse ideas about subsistence production and environments later eclipsed by classical economics With the publication of Essay on the Principle of Population and its projection of food shortages in the face of ballooning populations, British theorist Thomas Robert Malthus secured a leading role in modern political and economic thought. In this startling new interpretation, Deborah Valenze reveals how canonical readings of Malthus fail to acknowledge his narrow understanding of what constitutes food production. Valenze returns to the eighteenth-century contexts that generated his arguments, showing how Malthus mobilized a redemptive narrative of British historical development and dismissed the varied ways that people adapted to the challenges of subsistence needs. She uses history, anthropology, food studies, and animal studies to redirect our attention to the margins of Malthus's essay, where activities such as hunting, gathering, herding, and gardening were rendered extraneous. She demonstrates how Malthus's omissions and his subsequent canonization provided a rationale for colonial imposition of British agricultural models, regardless of environmental diversity. By broadening our conception of human livelihoods, Valenze suggests pathways to resistance against the hegemony of Malthusian political economy. The Invention of Scarcity: Malthus and the Margins of History (Yale UP, 2023) invites us to imagine a world where monoculture is in retreat and the margins are recentered as spaces of experimentation, nimbleness, and human flourishing. Deborah Valenze is the Ann Whitney Olin Professor of History at Barnard College. A recipient of numerous fellowships, she has written four previous books on British culture and economic life. She lives in Cambridge, MA, and New York City. Morteza Hajizadeh is a Ph.D. graduate in English from the University of Auckland in New Zealand. His research interests are Cultural Studies; Critical Theory; Environmental History; Medieval (Intellectual) History; Gothic Studies; 18th and 19th Century British Literature. YouTube channel. Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A radical new reading of eighteenth-century British theorist Thomas Robert Malthus, which recovers diverse ideas about subsistence production and environments later eclipsed by classical economics With the publication of Essay on the Principle of Population and its projection of food shortages in the face of ballooning populations, British theorist Thomas Robert Malthus secured a leading role in modern political and economic thought. In this startling new interpretation, Deborah Valenze reveals how canonical readings of Malthus fail to acknowledge his narrow understanding of what constitutes food production. Valenze returns to the eighteenth-century contexts that generated his arguments, showing how Malthus mobilized a redemptive narrative of British historical development and dismissed the varied ways that people adapted to the challenges of subsistence needs. She uses history, anthropology, food studies, and animal studies to redirect our attention to the margins of Malthus's essay, where activities such as hunting, gathering, herding, and gardening were rendered extraneous. She demonstrates how Malthus's omissions and his subsequent canonization provided a rationale for colonial imposition of British agricultural models, regardless of environmental diversity. By broadening our conception of human livelihoods, Valenze suggests pathways to resistance against the hegemony of Malthusian political economy. The Invention of Scarcity: Malthus and the Margins of History (Yale UP, 2023) invites us to imagine a world where monoculture is in retreat and the margins are recentered as spaces of experimentation, nimbleness, and human flourishing. Deborah Valenze is the Ann Whitney Olin Professor of History at Barnard College. A recipient of numerous fellowships, she has written four previous books on British culture and economic life. She lives in Cambridge, MA, and New York City. Morteza Hajizadeh is a Ph.D. graduate in English from the University of Auckland in New Zealand. His research interests are Cultural Studies; Critical Theory; Environmental History; Medieval (Intellectual) History; Gothic Studies; 18th and 19th Century British Literature. YouTube channel. Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/british-studies

A radical new reading of eighteenth-century British theorist Thomas Robert Malthus, which recovers diverse ideas about subsistence production and environments later eclipsed by classical economics With the publication of Essay on the Principle of Population and its projection of food shortages in the face of ballooning populations, British theorist Thomas Robert Malthus secured a leading role in modern political and economic thought. In this startling new interpretation, Deborah Valenze reveals how canonical readings of Malthus fail to acknowledge his narrow understanding of what constitutes food production. Valenze returns to the eighteenth-century contexts that generated his arguments, showing how Malthus mobilized a redemptive narrative of British historical development and dismissed the varied ways that people adapted to the challenges of subsistence needs. She uses history, anthropology, food studies, and animal studies to redirect our attention to the margins of Malthus's essay, where activities such as hunting, gathering, herding, and gardening were rendered extraneous. She demonstrates how Malthus's omissions and his subsequent canonization provided a rationale for colonial imposition of British agricultural models, regardless of environmental diversity. By broadening our conception of human livelihoods, Valenze suggests pathways to resistance against the hegemony of Malthusian political economy. The Invention of Scarcity: Malthus and the Margins of History (Yale UP, 2023) invites us to imagine a world where monoculture is in retreat and the margins are recentered as spaces of experimentation, nimbleness, and human flourishing. Deborah Valenze is the Ann Whitney Olin Professor of History at Barnard College. A recipient of numerous fellowships, she has written four previous books on British culture and economic life. She lives in Cambridge, MA, and New York City. Morteza Hajizadeh is a Ph.D. graduate in English from the University of Auckland in New Zealand. His research interests are Cultural Studies; Critical Theory; Environmental History; Medieval (Intellectual) History; Gothic Studies; 18th and 19th Century British Literature. YouTube channel. Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/book-of-the-day

O "Ulrich Responde" é uma série de vídeos em que respondo perguntas enviadas por membros do canal e seguidores onde abordo diversos tópicos relacionados à economia, finanças e investimentos Nesse formato de vídeo falamos sobre política econômica, inflação, taxas de juros, até investimentos em criptomoedas e ações, oferecendo uma análise aprofundada e bem fundamentada em cada episódio, trazendo informação para quem busca entender melhor a economia e tomar decisões financeiras mais informadas. 00:00 - Hoje, no Ulrich Responde 01:32 - Mercado exagerando na curva DI baseado só no fiscal do Brasil? 03:37 - Mercado subestimando o impacto da guerra no petróleo? 08:09 - Como o governo sabe quem está usando Bolsa Família em bets? 10:30 - Descobriram quem é Satoshi Nakamoto? 12:39 - Estímulos fiscais na China decepcionaram? 15:27 - Dólar pode ir abaixo de 4 reais? 16:34 - A tese do cobre: oportunidade? 18:16 - Tesla decepciona mercado? 23:05 - Centro direita crescendo na política brasileira, teremos um congresso responsável? 23:46 - ETF de platina para investir? 24:19 - Crescimento do Brasil em 3,2% seria um exagero em meio à tragédia do RS? 26:04 - Em qual fase do ciclo estamos? 27:05 - Qual sua opinião sobre a teoria de otimização de portfólios de Markovits? 27:43 - Investir em ETFs russo apostando no fim da guerra, faz sentido? 28:38 - A guerra explica o aumento dos yields nos títulos americanos? 29:15 - Recessão americana descartada? 29:55 - ETF global para longo prazo e em dólar, o que você acha? 31:14 - Teoria de Malthus explica a fome e o crescimento populacional? 33:01 - Como ficam os investidores com os impostos sobre milionários? 33:56 - Estatais com rombos históricos, a não privatização prejudica o país? 34:33 - Poderia falar mais sobre o Drex? 36:44 - Follow the Money é para investimentos? 37:07 - Poderia fazer um vídeo mostrando construção de gráficos? 37:53 - Federer, Nadal ou Djoko, quem é GOAT?

--{ "Fear is a Great Driver"}-- Why is thinking dangerous? - What is the Svalbard Global Seed Vault? - Intuition - Telepathy, Synthetic Telepathy - Persinger; Koren Helmet; An Electrified Field - Intuition is Important - Military Applications of Synthetic Telepathy, Transmission - HAARP Technology for Influence; Standing Waves, Superheating the Atmosphere - Fear is a Great Driver to Get Folk to Comply - Standing Waves can Be Used to Manipulate Behaviour - Thomas Malthus, Population - Brzezinski Talked about Technetronic Warfare Being Used to Manipulate Behaviour Across Whole Continents - Social Credit System in China Done by the State; In the West, Pretend it's Private Corporations - Conformity is All Around You Now - Electronic Prison; Cashless Society - Too Many of You - E. Bernays said Use Existing Organizations, even Churches - Technocracy Inc.; Everything Revolves around Energy (Food is Energy) - Health Fears Prompt Swiss 5G Revolt - Nanobots, Smart Dust, 5G Wireless and Smart Cities - Smart Dust Is Coming - Think Back to Malthus; Who Wants You to Become Vegan? - Please Donate and Visit www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com.

This week Amanda and Victoria discuss the Daniel Quinn book of Socratic dialogue with a gorilla, Ishmael. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/unfortunately-required/support

Have you ever wanted to walk in the footsteps of the great economists? Do you want to breathe the same air they breathed? Do you want to be inspired by the ghosts of Economics past? Well now's your chance. Cambridge is rich with economic history and in this podcast special, recorded on the hoof, your friendly neighbourhood economists, Pete and Gav, take you on a 4 mile journey around Cambridge. Starting at Keynes' family home and ending at Jesus College, you will find out why certain landmarks are important within the world of economics. It should take you 90 minutes to walk and on the journey, you can pay homage to the likes of Robinson, Marshall, Deaton and Malthus. Technical support as always comes from 'I think they are usable' Nic.

En el programa de hoy os ofrecemos un nuevo episodio In memoriam de Francisco Grande Covián. En esta ocasión, el Dr. Grande Covián se erige como defensor de las ideas de Thomas Robert Malthus, uno de los principales pensadores del siglo dieciocho, sobre el futuro de la humanidad, y en particular de su capacidad para alimentarse adecuadamente utilizando los limitados recursos del planeta Tierra. El Dr. Grande contrapone las ideas de Malthus, teñidas de un cierto pesimismo, con las más bien optimistas, por no decir utópicas, ideas de otros dos importantes pensadores de ese mismo siglo, el inglés William Godwin y el marqués de Condorcet, de nacionalidad francesa.

En el programa de hoy os ofrecemos un nuevo episodio In memoriam de Francisco Grande Covián. En esta ocasión, el Dr. Grande Covián se erige como defensor de las ideas de Thomas Robert Malthus, uno de los principales pensadores del siglo dieciocho, sobre el futuro de la humanidad, y en particular de su capacidad para alimentarse adecuadamente utilizando los limitados recursos del planeta Tierra. El Dr. Grande contrapone las ideas de Malthus, teñidas de un cierto pesimismo, con las más bien optimistas, por no decir utópicas, ideas de otros dos importantes pensadores de ese mismo siglo, el inglés William Godwin y el marqués de Condorcet, de nacionalidad francesa.

On this episode of ID the Future from the vault, we bring you the first of three short interviews with MIT-trained physicist Dr. Lee Spetner. We were saddened to learn of the recent passing of Dr. Spetner at 91 years old, and we’re sharing these conversations in tribute to his significant contributions to the evolution […]

On this episode of ID the Future from the vault, we bring you the first of three short interviews with MIT-trained physicist Dr. Lee Spetner. We were saddened to learn of the recent passing of Dr. Spetner at 91 years old, and we're sharing these conversations in tribute to his significant contributions to the evolution debate. Host Ira Berkowitz interviews Dr. Spetner in Jerusalem. Together they explore key arguments from Spetner's books Not by Chance and The Evolution Revolution. Source

Send us a textGrowth is essential to human life. Always has been, always will be. From the moment we are born, we grow, and we continue to throughout our lives, whether that is physically, mentally, or otherwise. Societies grow too.But what is growth? Real growth is replicable, durable, and sustainable (and not in the sense that immediately comes to mind). Your seven-year-old doesn't shrink back down after she grows an inch. It might happen when she's ninety, but that's gravity (and don't you think she's had a good run at this point? We should accept that it's ok to have a growth recession every now and again). So how have intellectuals conceptualized the growth of societies, environments, and economies over time? And how should we think about growth? The wonderful Henry C. Clark joins us on the podcast today to answer these questions and more. He is the program director of the Political Economy Project at Dartmouth College and the author of several books including the newly released The Moral Economy We Have Lost: Life Before Mass Abundance. Go check it out!Want to explore more?Henry Clark on the Enlightenments, a Great Antidote podcast.Pierre Desrochers, From Prometheus to Arcadia: Liberals, Conservatives, the Environment, and Cultural Cognition, at Econlib.Robert Pindyck on Averting and Adapting to Climate Change, an EconTalk podcast.Sandra Peart and David Levy, Happiness and the Vanity of the Philosopher: Part1, at Econlib.Deirdre McCloskey and Economists' Ideas About Ideas, a Liberty Matters forum at the Online Library of Liberty.Never miss another AdamSmithWorks update.Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.

Hoy, en un nuevo programa de Quilo de Ciencia en su modalidad “in Memoriam”, el Dr. Grande Covián, con su voz clonada por IA, nos habla de los problemas de la alimentación mundial allá por el año 1984, ciento cincuenta años después de la muerte de Thomas Robert Malthus, y se adentra por lo que en esos años se preveía que podía ser el futuro de la alimentación de la humanidad. Como siempre, sus enseñanzas son sabias y sus análisis, muy interesantes y todavía de actualidad, en particular en relación con la polémica que continúa habiendo sobre el consumo de carne. A continuación, Jorge Laborda compara los datos actuales con los que pronosticaba la Organización Mundial de la Salud en los años 80 del pasado siglo, que el Dr. Grande Covián nos resumía.

Hoy, en un nuevo programa de Quilo de Ciencia en su modalidad “in Memoriam”, el Dr. Grande Covián, con su voz clonada por IA, nos habla de los problemas de la alimentación mundial allá por el año 1984, ciento cincuenta años después de la muerte de Thomas Robert Malthus, y se adentra por lo que en esos años se preveía que podía ser el futuro de la alimentación de la humanidad. Como siempre, sus enseñanzas son sabias y sus análisis, muy interesantes y todavía de actualidad, en particular en relación con la polémica que continúa habiendo sobre el consumo de carne. A continuación, Jorge Laborda compara los datos actuales con los que pronosticaba la Organización Mundial de la Salud en los años 80 del pasado siglo, que el Dr. Grande Covián nos resumía.

Entrevista de Alex ¿Qué es real? 1.¿Por qué las elites crean problemas, dificultades e inseguridades al pueblo? 0100 Bueno, veo que vas directamente al grano, sin preámbulos, dando por hecho que existen unas elites que Pedro Bustamante denominó psicopatocraticas y cuyo nombre ya nos da la respuesta. Para llegar arriba debes ser el pepinillo más acido del barril, la rata más taimada y escurridiza y en un alto porcentaje de los casos un psicopata. Un psicopata al que solo le importa el poder, el trepar aún a costa de chafar cabezas y permanecer arriba. Desgraciadamente estamos rodeados de psicopatas, una de cada 100 personas lo es, lo cual significa que con una alta probabilidad estamos en contacto con alguno. La prevalencia de la psicopatía en la población general se estima en aproximadamente el 1% según múltiples estudios. La psicopatía se caracteriza por rasgos como la falta de empatía, comportamiento antisocial y manipulación, y es más común entre hombres que entre mujeres. Ese uno por ciento nos recuerda esa cantinela de que el poder es manejado por un 1% en contra de un 99% pero eso no es cierto ya que las redes clientelares, grupos secretos o discretos, sectas satánicas y otros miembros perniciosos de la sociedad esta mucho mas cerca del 20 ó 30% Expliquemos porque no deberíamos llamarlos elites, porque la palabra "élite" tiene su origen en el francés "élite", que significa "lo mejor de un grupo". Esta, a su vez, proviene del latín "eligere", que significa "elegir" o "seleccionar". La palabra se usó inicialmente en el contexto de los bienes y personas seleccionados por sus cualidades superiores. En inglés, comenzó a utilizarse en el siglo XVII para referirse a personas de alto estatus social o poder, y luego se expandió a otros idiomas con un significado similar a la palabra aristócrata que se usaba anteriormente. La palabra "aristócrata" proviene del griego antiguo “aristokratēs", compuesta por “aristos" que significa "el mejor" y “kratos" que significa "poder" o "gobierno". Literalmente, "aristocracia" se traduce como "gobierno de los mejores". Este término se usaba en la antigua Grecia para describir un sistema de gobierno donde el poder estaba en manos de una clase privilegiada considerada la más apta para gobernar debido a su virtud, educación y riqueza. Para estas mal llamadas elites psicopatocraticas el pueblo llano es el que causa los problemas y las inseguridades al conjunto de la humanidad. Nos consideran poco menos que ganado y suelen referirse a nosotros como “los muertos” porque no somos dueños de nuestras propias vidas. Esto nos lleva directamente a la eugenesia que está estrechamente relacionado con el surgimiento del darwinismo social a finales del siglo xix y enraizado en el maltusianismo. Malthus sostenía que el ritmo de crecimiento de la población responde a una progresión geométrica, mientras que el ritmo de aumento de los recursos para su supervivencia lo hace en progresión aritmética. Por lo tanto, y para bien de la supervivencia de la especie había que intervenir para impedir el nacimiento de más seres humanos. Por supuesto, las clases mas pobres serian las elegidas para corregir esa desviación matematica. No se si he contestado a tu pregunta, pero brevemente diríamos, que “ellos creen que están haciendo lo correcto”. 2.¿Cómo las elites han legitimado su poder ante la gente inferior y común? 0200 Por la fuerza y mediante la endogamia practicando el matrimonio, unión o reproducción entre individuos de ascendencia común, es decir, de una misma familia, linaje o grupo. A través del asalto de los órganos de poder e impidiendo que personas ajenas a dichos grupos endógenos accedan a los mismos. Aqui deberíamos hablar de la ley de hierro de la oligarquía o ley de hierro de los partidos de la que hablaba Garcia Trevijano, la cual nos explica porque todos quieren mandar. La ley de hierro de la oligarquía es una teoría política desarrollada por el sociólogo Robert Michels en su libro de 1911, Partidos políticos. Esta teoría sostiene que el gobierno por una élite u oligarquía es inevitable dentro de cualquier organización democrática debido a las "necesidades tácticas y técnicas" de la misma. Michels argumenta que todas las organizaciones complejas, sin importar cuán democráticas sean en sus inicios, eventualmente se transforman en oligarquías. Observó que en organizaciones grandes y complejas, el poder siempre se delega a individuos, ya sean elegidos o no. Michels termino militando en el Partido Fascista de Benito Mussolini. Y aqui es donde debemos explicar que la palabra fascista proviene de fascio, gavilla o haz de lictores, pequeñas varas de madera o flechas atadas con una cinta roja y rematadas con un hacha. Estos cilindros representaban el poder, la autoridad y la fuerza, y eran cargados al hombro por los lictores, que acompañaban a los magistrados curules como símbolo de coerción y castigo. Las 30 varas (una por cada curia o subdivisión de Roma) referían al castigo corporal y el hacha aludía a la pena de muerte por decapitación. Dentro del pomerium, es decir del límite sagrado de Roma, a los haces se les quitaba el hacha, para dejar constancia que dentro de la ciudad los magistrados curules podían castigar, pero no ejecutar. Fue utilizada por primera vez en el sentido del poder que tiene una banda armada en la década de 1870 por grupos de demócratas revolucionarios en Sicilia. El más famoso de estos grupos fue el Fasci Siciliani durante 1891-94 y también por los carbonarios que terminarían junto a Garibaldi unificando Italia. Entre los emblemas de los carbonarios, una rama de la masonería, tenemos el típico gorro frigio y el haz de lictores o fasces. Nos deberíamos preguntar porque el emblema de la Guardia Civil aqui en España es también el fascio romano. En pocas palabras podemos decir que todos los puestos de poder han sido tomados desde siempre por las familias que detentan el poder-religión en la sombra y que sus símbolos ancestrales siguen estando presentes. Por cierto, la cinta roja simboliza que llegaran a utilizar la fuerza en caso necesario hasta hacer sangre. 3.¿El poder de las élites sobre las masas sociales no es posible sin una red clientelar con personas cómplices y poderes intermedios? 0300 Hago mías unas palabras que podemos leer en la novela “La Ilustre degeneración”: 0301 “- Lo peor es que cada vez votan menos. Por muchos malabarismos que hagamos, el régimen pierde representatividad por un tubo. Los que votan en blanco, rechazan lo que les ofrecemos. Pero los que no votan, ¡nos rechazan a nosotros! ¡Monarquía incluida! - ¡De acuerdo! Pero que hayan tragado que votó más del 60%, cuando no llegaron ni al 50%, no significa que podamos seguir haciendo los que nos da la gana, como si nos aplaudiese la mayoría. Si no cambiamos, un día pasará lo que tiene que pasar. ¡Y no tendrá remedio! 0301a Marco Tulio asintió con un gesto. - Aunque me pese, tengo que decirlo. Los del "si buana", que hacen la vida imposible a quien nos parece y dejan que quien nos da la gana se la haga a los demás, en cuanto nos vean debilitados, pedirán mayor participación, cuando menos en perras. Tendremos que dársela, porque los necesitamos y porque pueden largar. Y los subalternos del subalterno seguirán su ejemplo. Es decir, que nos crecerán los enanos. Eso si no se levanta alguno. O todos nos hacen un corte de mangas. Pero si votasen de verdad, no podría pasar nada de esto, porque el respaldo de la gente, aunque no se diga, ¡impone mucho!” 0302 La única herramienta que tenemos a nuestra disposición es no votarles e impedir que sigan manteniendo el chiringuito y encima saquen pecho. Deslegitimarles en cualquier oportunidad y cualquier foro, cada uno en la medida de sus posibilidades sacando a la luz toda la podredumbre del sistema. Actualmente tenemos un gobierno que ha pactado con partidos independentistas para seguir en el poder y que por 7 votos prefiere destruir España a perder el escaño. La supuesta democracia ya vino envenenada con las autonomías y el café para todos de Suarez. Vino impuesta por la geopolítica internacional que quería una España débil, una España que era la octava potencia mundial y que hoy en dia solo tiene pellejo. Andrei Kononov nos lo ha explicado maravillosamente en sus artículos, recomiendo leerlos, empezando por GOLPE DE ESTADO FEDERAL: LA TRAMA BILDERBERG PARA DESTRUIR ESPAÑA. Trocear España y federalizarla es parte de los planes de esta psicopatocracia como lo es atomizar a las masas sociales en mas partidos, en mas grupos, en más gustos diferentes, incluso en mas gustos sexuales. Por eso cuando grupos heterodoxos de gente empezaron a protestar juntos por todas las calles de España tras la crisis del 2008 se diseño un plan para atrapar a todas esas fuerzas y unificarlas mediante el 15M para crear un partido que luego seria destruido. Para crear ese partido contaron con la ayuda de grupos coordinados que ya estaban en la red clientelar del Estado bien via partidos políticos, sindicatos o asociaciones. Resultara difícil deshacer una red clientelar tan bien nutrida durante tantos años pero nada es imposible. Muchas de esas personas no actuarían de la forma en que lo hacen si conociesen la realidad. Por tanto debemos centrarnos en hacerles ver a lo que contribuyen. 4.¿Por qué las élites promueven los instintos primarios más básicos en las masas sociales? 0400 Se trata de evitar que la mayor cantidad de gente acceda a la cúspide de la Pirámide de Maslow. Maslow formula en su teoría una jerarquía de necesidades humanas y defiende que conforme se satisfacen las necesidades más básicas (parte inferior de la pirámide), los seres humanos desarrollan necesidades y deseos más elevados (parte superior de la pirámide). Por lo tanto si mantenemos a la mayor cantidad de gente en la zona inferior de la pirámide no tendrán tiempo ni capacidad para pensar en que son explotados como ganado. Cito otra vez a Luisa Álvarez de Toledo y su cercenado libro sobre las elites psicopatocraticas: 0401 “Es primordial darle [al pueblo] algo en qué entretenerse. Leyes que les complican la vida, impuestos que los crujen, inseguridad y problemas. Hay que darles en qué pensar. Para que no piensen en lo que no deben.” 0402 El control de los instintos básicos o primarios en las poblaciones puede ser una herramienta poderosa para dominarlas porque estos instintos, como el miedo, la alimentación, el sexo y la necesidad de pertenencia, son fundamentales para la supervivencia y el bienestar humano. Al manipular estos instintos, los líderes pueden influir en el comportamiento de las personas de manera predecible. El miedo puede ser usado para justificar medidas drásticas o autoritarias, manteniendo a la población en un estado de dependencia y obediencia. Controlar el acceso a alimentos y recursos esenciales puede crear una dependencia directa del gobierno o de la autoridad en poder. Las normas y políticas que regulan las relaciones personales y la sexualidad pueden limitar la autonomía individual y reforzar el control social. Promover un sentido de identidad colectiva o de pertenencia a un grupo específico puede ser utilizado para dirigir las lealtades y acciones de las personas hacia los objetivos de quienes están en el poder. Estos métodos de control pueden ser efectivos porque los instintos básicos son fundamentales y profundamente arraigados en la psicología humana, haciendo que las personas sean más susceptibles a la influencia y manipulación cuando estos aspectos de su vida están en juego. Lo estamos viendo ahora mismo con el asesinato de tres niñas en el acuchillamiento múltiple que ha desatado una ola de violencia en Reino Unido. Muy probablemente todo haya sido diseñado fríamente desde el poder para lograr imponer unas medidas restrictivas aun mas duras. Por ejemplo, en cuanto al control policial y la vigilancia por reconocimiento facial que estaba siendo duramente criticada e incluso saboteada con el apoyo del pueblo. La gran mayoría de la gente que apoyaba a las personas que se dedicaban a destruir cámaras de reconocimiento dejara de hacerlo a la vista de los graves disturbios ocasionados por el asesinato de tres niñas. Nadie quiere estar en guerra permanente y se arrojaran de nuevo en los brazos de la policia y el poder que permite que ocurran esas desgracias. Las pulsaciones de vida y de muerte de las que hablaba Freud, el Eros y el Tánatos. Al final todo es resurrección y muerte en un ciclo sin fin. El polo negativo, el receptáculo en forma de copa femenino o matriz, el sexo o Eros y el polo positivo, el falo enhiesto masculino, la guerra o Tánatos. Como decía Pedro Bustamente, “el poder-religión se basa en el manejo de esta máquina, mucho más que en las fachadas tras las que se esconde”. 5.Luisa Álvarez de Toledo dice que las elites superiores inician a las elites inferiores en la corrupción y el placer. En este sentido, su propia iniciación implica también su control. ¿Éste sería el caso de Mario Conde y de otros? 0500 Tengo un articulo titulado “22 DE MAYO, CRISIS FINANCIERA, ATENTADOS Y EL SOUFFLÉ DEL CASO MALDITO” donde precisamente hablo de este tema. En los foros más oscuros se hablaba de un supuesto viaje del señor Conde y acólitos a las cerradas selvas africanas donde todavía habitan pigmeos. Gente de su entorno lo sabe muy bien…y saben a lo que querían ir allí, a practicar magia sexual ritual… …algún loco se lo recordaba entre líneas en el propio blog del señor Mario Conde, en la guarida del León. Dicho viaje supuestamente nunca se produjo. Podíamos leer textualmente en el blog marioconde punto org lo que le decía aquel loco y la propia respuesta del señor Conde: 0501 “Marito, no eran Pigmeos, eran Bosquimanos, y no era en Mozambique, era en Namibia... ¿O era en la selva de Anaconda, en la tierra de los hombres invisibles? Ay qué lío me estoy haciendo entre el mundo virtual y el real... Resulta que esta mañana me he encontrado a dos marcianitos verdes al lado de mi cama... Les he preguntado si eran de Marte o Raticulin, y me han dicho que no, que eran del Blog y que venían del mundo Virtual. Les he preguntado si me iban a abducir, y me han dicho que aún no estaba preparado, que tenía que engordar un par de kilos más... En todo caso, como el mundo se acaba en el 2012, les he dicho que esperen porque deseo conocer a la Tribu de los Hombres Invisibles antes de la trágica fecha... Pero antes debo recordar de qué pais se trataba, porque como buen explorador, tengo muchas ansias de viajar, pero luego olvido hacia donde…” 0502 “¿De qué pigmeos me hablas, Javier?. Si relees mi post ya no se habla de esos chicos pequeños que supuestamente viven en algún lugar que no es precisamente de La Mancha. Me debí de confundir con un sueño. Creo que Mozambique, Angola, Costa de Marfil y Mali han ocupado algún sitio en mi memoria en estos últimos días, así que quizás por ello en un proceso de alucinación Incontrolado surgieron esos países en mi duermevela matutina. ¿Por qué los pigmeos?. No se, tal vez porque ayer o antes de ayer o el dia anterior al antesdeayer me vino a la mente la necesidad de la humildad como presupuesto para hablar con los hombres y con Dios, y, tal vez, no se, digo yo, que en términos físicos la humildad puede tener cierta relación con la estatura, porque ya se sabe que en cuerpos pequeños caben espíritus grandes y viceversa. Tal vez mi alucinación sea debida a eso. O quizás a evitarte problemas de correos, de leyes, abogados y coas así, que nunca se sabe, porque lo mismo el Gobiemo de esos paises te dirige un escrito diciendote que como té atreves a hablar de pigmeos cuando allí todos son altos, guapos, apuestos, listos y... Acabo de terminar de escribir y tengo ciertas dudas de si mi comentario es positivo y cumple las normas del blog...En caso de no ser así, apelo a vuestra clemencia para evitar que un antropólogo serio sufra las consecuencias indeseadas de un comentario imprudente.” 0503 Todas las elites se juntan y realmente están interconectadas. De ello podemos darnos cuenta leyendo un estupendo articulo publicado en 2010 en el blog del señor Conde titulado “Una cena preñada de tolerancia entre católicos y masones”. Allí nos cuenta como a la mesa estaban representados el Opus, incluido uno que fue numerario, la iglesia, la masonería, el catolicismo y el agnosticismo. En palabras textuales: “…sentados en la misma mesa y sin que se vislumbrara el mas leve signo de violencia, ni verbal ni emocional.” Seis años más tarde la masonería le daba la espalda al enterarse de que el avalista para pagar la fianza de 300.000 euros para eludir la cárcel había sido Jaime Alonso García, vicepresidente de la Fundación Francisco Franco. Y ya saben que ambas cosas no pegan muy bien. Supuestamente tenia una larga trayectoria en la Gran Logia de España y su nombre incluso había «sonado» como futuro gran maestro de la orden de la escuadra y el compás pero este hecho trunco su carrera masónica. 6.¿Qué te parece la nueva imagen de Mario Conde como experto en las élites? 0600 El increíble rápido ascenso de Mario Conde y su ulterior y aun mas rápida defenestración…y la mas que burda manipulación a la que fue sometido todo el proceso nos indica que el más alto poder ha estado trajinando todo esto. Se rumorea por ahi por ejemplo que fue el grupo de Mario Conde el que desenterró a las niñas de Alcasser de su primer enterramiento y supuestamente las coloco en el palacio del rey Juan Carlos. También se dice que la versión extraoficial sobre el 11M y que obtuvo el periodista Fernando Múgica Fuentes también provino de su entorno cercano. Recordemos que fue amenazado con ser asesinado para que no la difundiera, en síntesis, seria la siguiente, esto es todo una suposición: 0601 “El Partido Popular llevó adelante un inocuo falso atentado etarra el 11M, con la finalidad de obtener réditos electorales. El PSOE conocía lo que pretendía el PP y, a su vez, tenía preparado un supermisil electoral que pulverizaría al PP. Por encima de ambos partidos corrompidos sobrevolaba la inteligencia norteamericana, que solapó, al falso atentado inocuo del PP, un atentado brutal para consumo interno de la política norteamericana, porque pensaban que no saldrían políticamente vivos de Irak (del Irak de finales de 2003, Inicios 2004). El PP y el PSOE, para ocultar sus propias corruptelas, destruyeron las pruebas de los asesinatos (pues se autodescubririan) y las sustituyeron con pruebas falsas. Las personas condenadas por el 11M son inocentes de esos delitos.” 0601a Estos dos rumores son suficientes para no haber salido vivo y sin embargo ha seguido ejerciendo poder. Por ejemplo, y esto es muy desconocido, Conde pudo estar detrás del 15M a través de la organización Social Party. Si rastrean esta organización la verán como uno de los núcleos duros del 15M y dentro de ella está entre otros conocidos personajes Alejandra Conde, la hija de Mario Conde…y en 2016 cuando escribí un articulo sobre ello seguían manteniendo encendidas las ascuas de aquello que fue el 15M. El señor Mario Conde sigue muy vivo y tras el supuesto fiasco del 15M se decidió a organizar el primer Congreso de la Sociedad Civil el 30 de septiembre de 2011. Curiosamente en dicho congreso no se contó la verdad sobre el dinero fiduciario (creación de moneda), el control sistémico de ciertas familias o el encubrimiento de todos los estados nación de ciertas operaciones de falsa bandera como el 11S ó el 11M. Uno de los invitados a dicho congreso comentaba esto en Facebook: 0602 “Estoy invitado al «primer congreso de la sociedad civil», un evento creado en Facebook por Social Party y coordinado y financiado por la Fundación Civil que preside Mario Conde. ¿Alguien podría explicarme que relación existe entre un movimiento que pretende la transformación del sistema capitalista y una entidad que promueve su perpetuidad»” 0603 Lo dicho, el señor Conde debe tener padrinos muy gordos y no hablo del fallecido Conde de Barcelona que logro auparlo a la presidencia del Banesto. 7.Luisa Álvarez de Toledo cita más de 20 veces la palabra “políticos” y “clase política”, menciona 5 veces la palabra “aristocracia”, 1 vez la palabra “masones” y “0pus Dei”, y nunca menciona a los Jesuitas, ni la logia P2. Teniendo en cuenta esto, ¿a quién se refiere Luisa Isabel Álvarez de Toledo con las palabras “cofradía”, “iniciados”, “grupo”? 0700 En el articulo “La ilustre degeneración. De Toledos, Mauras y Caros.” supuestamente escrito por Juan Ignacio Blanco, porque el creador del blog de las sombras fue el señor Blanco y por eso ya no se escribe allí nada, podemos leer de boca de la propia duquesa: 0701 “Parte de los principios de Conde están perfectamente explicados: esa compra de Antibióticos por los italianos en la que estaba implicada la P-2, de manera que el dinero que le dan a Conde por sus Antibióticos, que no lo valían por supuesto, para que compre Banesto, ese dinero viene a través de la P-2. Hay un libro muy bueno publicado en Colombia sobre este tema. Con P-2 vamos a entrar en Conde, que es masonería y Opus, simultáneamente, que va a comprar y va a vaciar –que es la técnica: vaciar– el dinero del mayor banco de España, como antes vaciaron Calvi y su cuadrilla el Banco Ambrosiano.” 0702 El Banco Ambrosiano fue creado para contrarrestar con un Banco religioso al resto de bancos laicos existentes hasta el momento, según la explicación de Trovini. Aquí destaco la leyenda de San Ambrosio (Santo al que se debe el nombre del Banco) por si queréis ahondar, pero que se resume en la necesidad de sacrificio y pobreza para tener la gracia de Dios. Es curioso que un banco utilice ese nombre a tenor de la leyenda del Santo. Es bastante hipócrita, aunque están acostumbrados a reírse de nosotros en nuestra cara. El Banco Vaticano era accionista mayoritario del Banco Ambrosiano. Este Banco quebró en 1982, justo cuando se estrena la película Blade Runner. Roberto Calvi, presidente del Banco Ambrosiano y miembro de la Logia P2 y Paul Marcinkus presidente del Banco Vaticano y denominado por la prensa como “El banquero de Dios“ fueron los dos nombres que se harían famosos. Ambos fueron acusados de montar un entramado de empresas con sede en la sucursal del Banco Ambrosiano en Perú, utilizando empresas en Nassau así como cuentas fantasmas para hacer fluctuar la Bolsa italiana, lavar dinero procedente de la P2 e influir en partidos políticos de Italia y en movimientos de Liberación en Nicaragua (Frente Sandinista) y Polonia (Solidaridad). 0702a Tenemos una teoría que resume la importancia de la desaparición de Emanuela Orlandi para el Vaticano y relaciona a este banco. Según una noticia, se manejó la posibilidad de que el banquero de Dios, Marcinkus, pudiera ser el responsable del secuestro de la niña con el objeto de enviar un mensaje a “alguien” del Vaticano. Se supone que el dinero que había perdido en la quiebra del Ambrosiano, quería recuperarlo. Tal vez se tratase hasta de un ritual. Hay quien plantea que lo hizo para chantajear al Papa Juan Pablo II. Los banqueros del banco Ambrosiano, aparecieron uno ahorcado y otro envenenado. La muerte del banquero del banco Ambrosiaco Roberto Calvi y cuatro años más tarde la de otro banquero, Michele Sindona, fallecido después de beber un café envenenado con cianuro en una cárcel de máxima seguridad próxima a Milán, donde cumplía cadena perpetua han mostrado los lazos de la banca Vaticana con la mafia italiana y logias masónicas como la P2. El único sobreviviente de los implicados fue Marcinkus. Se dice que fue protegido por el Papa. Podemos concluir con que la desaparición de Emanuela Orlandi en1983 presuntamente se trató de un chantaje, ritual o ambos. En cuanto a no nombrar a los jesuitas muy probablemente se deba a que los Álvarez de Toledo fueron impulsores de la introducción de los jesuitas en España. En un paper titulado “LA CONFORMACIÓN DE LA PROVINCIA JESUÍTICA DE TOLEDO EN TORNO AL GENERALATO DE DIEGO LAÍNEZ “ leemos como “Fernando Álvarez de Toledo, conde de Oropesa, y su hermano, Francisco de Toledo, famoso virrey del Perú” consiguieron el establecimiento madrileño para los jesuitas. Por otro lado Francisco Álvarez de Toledo, fue el fundador del colegio universitario de Santa Catalina, cuyo rector en algún momento de su vida se convertiría en jesuita. Y ni que decir tiene que Toledo fue siempre un feudo jesuita durante los periodos que estos estuvieron activos en España y el apellido Álvarez de Toledo se llama así por algo. 8.Por otro lado, ¿cómo Luisa Álvarez de Toledo describe la dimensión religiosa de estas élites con sus rituales y pactos? 0800 Voy a leer dos extractos de la novela de la condesa para que veáis la diferencia. El primero describe uno de los rituales donde realizan actos sexuales y la ofrenda de la vida de una joven a Satanas. 0801 “El salón olía a incienso, hierbas aromáticas y alucinógenas que se consumían en los pebeteros, disimulando apenas el olor desagradable y acre del azufre, materia prima de nubes y reflejos, que sabiamente combinados con el las recreaban un ambiente fantasmal, más próximo a la teatralidad de Disneyworld que a la de Brughel. El ceremonial le pareció tan infantil como ridículo. Discursos hipócritas escondían la bajeza de unos individuos que compensaban su cobardía, física e intelectual, disponiendo sin limitación ni riesgo de seres indefensos.Efecto y causa de las taras del sistema, los reunidos se disimulaban bajo inútiles capirotes, pues todos hubiesen podido ser identificados, con nombre y apellido, sin necesidad de destocarse. Gerardo se preguntó cómo reaccionaría la sociedad si descubriese ciertas actividades privadas de sus rectores. Pétula le arrancó de sus reflexiones, pronunciando el nombre del diablo menor que le tocaba encarnar. Aguantando la risa, se arrodilló a los pies de un Braulio majestuoso, disfrazado de Gran Maestre. Recibidos los toques de mandoble, quedó incorporado al colectivo. Pétula subió solemnemente las gradas. El cuerpo de una joven desnuda y sin mancilla, debidamente amarrada, ejercía de mantel sobre el altar. Utilizando el lenguaje críptico de los infiernos, la pitonisa recitó advocaciones, mientras el cuenco de madera de la libación pasaba de mano en mano. El brebaje, preparado por Angustias y Maritina, acólitas de la sacerdotisa, era un coktail de alucinógenos, con toque de coca, disimulado con miel y zumo de frutas, llamado pomposamente hidromiel. Gerardo tragó a duras penas aquel licor, dulzón y pegajoso. Leída una fórmula redactada por un miembro de la Academia de la Historia, especialista en la tradición zoroástrica, Pétula dibujó en el aire el signo que acompañaba a la llegada de Satanás. El Gran Maestre se arrodilló. La cara en tierra, recibió al dios de los infiernos. Gerardo imitó a los demás, procurando reproducir los sonidos emitidos por la sacerdotisa, en el tono y con la devoción, que observaba en la concurrencia. Una explosión de paroxismo histérico saludó a Belcebú. Las miradas se concentraron en el trono. Se sintió realmente inquieto, al verlo tan vacío como antes.Informado de que debía besar el pie a Satanás, practicándole una felación, para terminar presentando el posterior, por si quería utilizarlo, se pregunto cómo acertar, habiéndoselas con un ser invisible”. 0801a Este segundo extracto habla como diría Juan Ignacio Blanco “sin ningún genero de dudas” del caso Alcasser: 0802 “Habían pasado los años, pero la calle no se olvidaba de lastres chicas. Limpias las calaveras, los cuerpos revelaban que habían sido bárbaramente torturadas por maníacos sexuales. Autopsia minuciosa, seguida de análisis, hubiese desvelado el misterio, que ocultaba la contradicción entre el tiempo necesario para hacer todo aquello y la muerte, que se pretendía casi inmediata. Pero al no estar interesado el poder en saber lo que realmente sucedió, la investigación quedó en chapuza, que no convenció a nadie, oponiéndose a la leyenda oficial la que dictaba la imaginación popular, oponiéndose la razón al cúmulo de contradicciones que llegaron al público. No siendo costumbre que el asesino firme su crimen, lo hizo en este caso, pues fue designado matador el propietario de un volante de la SeguridadSocial, encontrado en casamata, próxima a la fosa donde aparecieron los cuerpos. El ser su propietario delincuente común y drogata facilitó las cosas. Fue declarado culpable, sin que nadie explicase cómo era posible que un condenado, oficialmente en la cárcel, cumpliendo condena y sin derecho a salidas, residía en su domicilio habitual sin haber sido buscado ni molestado. No lo contó la autoridad, ni pudo hacerlo el interfecto. Dotado de facultades paranormales, por no dejarse detener, voló desde un quinto piso a la calle, perdiéndose para la eternidad, sin haber sido presentado.Ausente el culpable oficial, pero irrenunciable el juicio, por estar los ánimos alterados, se echó mano de un alfeñique, amigo del presunto Superman, que tratado según convenía, confesó repetidamente, con tan buena voluntad y detalle, que las contradicciones saltaban a la vista. No afectó la irregularidad al proceso, ni el hecho de que se hiciese notar repetidamente, en el curso del juicio, modificó la sentencia. Urgente dar carpetazo legal a un asunto que puso a la población de uñas, el alfeñique ingresó en prisión, con tres cadáveres a la espalda. No se esperaba, en las alturas, que una opinión publica, supuestamente inhabilitada para fijar la atención, absorber información y procesarla, tuviese la santa paciencia de seguir aun presentador que desgranó el sumario, día a día y al detalle. Pero lo hizo y concluyó, quedando psicólogos, sociólogos, forenses y en última instancia jueces a los pies de los caballos. De resultas, la mayoría concluyó que degenerados anónimos, afectados de sadismo patológico, controlaban una importante parcela de poder que les permitía cargar con sus culpas al botones. Incómoda la sensación, se instaló un peligroso malestar, que en adelante mantendría en alerta perpetua a los servicios de inteligencia.” 0803 Es muy diferente la forma de hablar de los asesinos psicopatas, casi como si se lo tomaran a broma a como describe como el pueblo llano termina percibiendo dichos crímenes. Unas masas que prefieren hacer caso de la oficialidad y dormir tranquilas, sabiendo que la policia, que los jueces y los políticos que eligen las leyes los protegerán. Pero sin embargo, en todos y cada uno de esos casos mediáticos a poco que analicemos aparecen lagunas, contradicciones, zonas oscuras. Cuantas más contradicciones encontremos en estos casos más cerca estamos del poder-religión real y eso es lo que pasa al analizar por ejemplo el triple asesinato de las niñas de Alcasser. Las mal llamadas elites saben muy bien como escenificar estos crímenes y los medios de desinformación y ritualización se encargan de lograr preocuparnos pero sin dejarnos ver el ritual tras el obsecnario del que hablaba Pedro Bustamante. 0803a El caso Alcasser siempre se rumoreo que sirvió para realizar un pacto al mas alto nivel entre todos los poderes fácticos que operan en España. Y hablo de que todos los estratos y sectores supuestamente participaron, desde científicos a asesinos, desde grandes empresarios a artistas, desde importantes personajes religiosos a gurús de sectas paganas. Todos ellos están relacionados por los rituales de sexo y sangre. Termino leyendo tres extractos de uno de los libros fundamentales de Pedro Bustamante que debes leer, En el nombre del ano, del falo y de la matriz transhumana: “Esta distinción entre lo religioso y lo político ha sido establecida por el verdadero poder-religión en la sombra para que no se comprenda cómo opera. Porque su característica fundamental es precisamente la ocultación, porque el poder-religión es, por definición, ocultocrático. La ciencia y la religión no se oponen, como nos han querido hacer creer. La religión real tiene una dimensión política, y el poder real tiene una dimensión religiosa. Porque, en el fondo, son lo mismo, y su división es solo aparente. Una estrategia más de manipulación y control mental de masas. Y esto lo hace, aunque pueda parecer paradójico, mediante los rituales de sexo y de sangre, que precisamente porque consume y despilfarra el valor de las víctimas, dota de valor a los que participan en el ritual, esto es, a los verdugos y a las víctimas en potencia que se identifican con la víctima en el acto.” 9.Para Luisa Isabel Álvarez de Toledo, los sacrificios rituales son actos criminales de unas elites enfermas de poder, adictas al sadismo y totalmente deshumanizadas. ¿Estás de acuerdo con esta conclusión? 0900 La gente poderosa se aburre y una de las formas que tienen de entretenerse es ejercer su poder sin sufrir castigo alguno. El marqués de Sade fue un escritor, ensayista, filósofo, libertino, activista político y noble francés conocido por sus novelas libertinas y su encarcelamiento por delitos sexuales, blasfemia y pornografía. Sus obras incluyen novelas, cuentos, obras de teatro, diálogos y tratados políticos. Algunos de ellos se publicaron bajo su propio nombre durante su vida, pero la mayoría aparecieron de forma anónima o póstuma. Le es atribuida también la famosa novela Los 120 días de Sodoma o la escuela de libertinaje, que fue publicada en 1904, muchos años más tarde de la muerte del marqués de Sade y que sería su obra más famosa. Fue adaptada al cine en 1975 por el autor y cineasta neorrealista italiano Pier Paolo Pasolini, quien sería asesinado después. Este es el argumento: 0901 “En una época posterior al reinado de Luis XIV, cuatro hombres ricos y libertinos, un aristócrata, un eclesiástico, un banquero y un juez, o sea, los cuatro poderes deciden pasar 120 días en el Castillo de Silling en Suiza, entregándose a sus pasiones más depravadas. Secuestran a 8 muchachas y 8 muchachos adolescentes y, junto con otros secuaces y sirvientes, forman un grupo de 46 personas. Contratan a 4 alcahuetas para que relaten historias eróticas. Durante noviembre, se exploran 150 pasiones simples sin penetración. Los meses siguientes presentan pasiones más complejas y criminales. En diciembre, los relatos incluyen penetración, desvirginación y torturas. En enero, los actos se vuelven más extremos con bestialismo y amputaciones. En febrero, se detallan 150 maneras de asesinar, resultando en 10 muertos. En marzo, se resumen los eventos finales, con un total de 30 muertos y 16 sobrevivientes.” 0902 Saló o los 120 días de Sodoma de Pier Paolo Pasolini basada en “Los 120 días de Sodoma del marqués de Sade” iba a ser una trilogía, pero misteriosamente no pudieron realizarse las dos partes restantes tras el asesinato en extrañas circunstancias de Pasolini. Pasolini es asesinado brutalmente por Pino Pelosi, un chapero de 17 años, en un descampado de Ostia, cerca de Roma. Su cuerpo, abandonado en un vertedero, queda completamente desfigurado. El joven confesó el crimen, afirmando haber actuado en legítima defensa al ser atacado por Pasolini, que intentaba violarlo. Sade da nombre a la palabra sádico y sadismo ya que sus personajes son los característicos antihéroes, protagonistas de violaciones y de disertaciones en las que justifican sus actos, según algunos pensadores, mediante sofismas. La expresión de un ateísmo radical, además de la descripción de parafilias sexuales y actos de violencia, son los temas más recurrentes de sus escritos, en los que prima la idea del triunfo del vicio sobre la virtud. Así que sí, considero que existe una campana de Gauss que relaciona a víctimas con victimarios siendo el poder lo que te coloca en un extremo u otro de la gráfica. 10.¿Dónde podemos encontrar tus investigaciones, proyectos, etc.? 1000 Continúo en la red siempre que me es posible, y creo firmemente que el primer lugar donde la gente debería buscarme es en el blog que creé en 2014, hace ya diez años. Gracias a Google, sigue existiendo en un rincón oscuro de la web. Fue desindexado por exponer el engaño del ébola y ha permanecido así desde entonces. Solo a través del buscador del propio blog podrás acceder a algunos de mis mejores artículos. El nombre es muy sencillo: tecnicopreocupado.com. Desde allí, podrás acceder a un menú llamado "Canales UTP", donde encontrarás enlaces a mi canal de YouTube, donde aún puedes ver algunos videos increíbles que, lamentablemente, continúan desapareciendo día a día. También tengo videos en Odysee, Ugetube y Bitchute, y en todos ellos puedes buscarme como "Técnico Preocupado”. Recomiendo a todas las personas que han encontrado interesante esta entrevista que busquen nuestros videos sobre simbología y los análisis que hemos realizado sobre películas como "Blade Runner", "Eyes Wide Shut" y otras. También pueden acceder al canal de audios en iVoox llamado "Buscadores de la Verdad", donde podrás escuchar casi mil audios sobre las más diversas temáticas. Actualmente, estamos finalizando una serie de videos sobre Blasco Ibáñez, en la cual nos enfocamos en cómo nada es lo que parece y cómo este famosísimo escritor fue una pieza fundamental para acercar las posturas de las élites psicopáticas a la población. Y, por supuesto, si quieren ver lo que hago día a día, deben seguirme en Twitter. Aunque estoy bajo shadow banning, mis tuits siguen siendo muy esclarecedores. Muchas gracias, Alex, por interesarte en este Técnico Preocupado, y deseo a ti y a todos los que nos están escuchando un muy feliz verano 2024. Espero que el próximo año veamos un punto de inflexión en la consciencia de todos los seres humanos. ………………………………………………………………………………………. Anfitrión: Alex del antiguo canal ¿Qué es real? Carl Jung El Mundo Oculto https://www.youtube.com/@carljungelmundooculto/videos Invitado: UTP Ramón Valero @tecn_preocupado Un técnico Preocupado un FP2 IVOOX UTP http://cutt.ly/dzhhGrf BLOG http://cutt.ly/dzhh2LX Ayúdame desde mi Crowfunding aquí https://cutt.ly/W0DsPVq ………………………………………………………………………………………. Enlaces citados en el podcast: La ilustre degeneración. De Toledos, Mauras y Caros. https://lawebdelassombras.blogspot.com/2013/04/la-ilustre-degeneracion.html La ilustre degeneración: los rituales de la élite https://consciencia-verdad.blogspot.com/2015/01/la-ilustre-degeneracion-los-rituales-de.html Caso Nxivm: las conexiones de la secta sexual con las élites de México https://www.bbc.com/mundo/noticias-america-latina-48428521 LA DUQUESA QUE SABIA DEMASIADO, «SEÑORA DE SANLUCAR» https://tecnicopreocupado.com/2014/12/18/la-duquesa-que-sabia-demasiado-senora-de-sanlucar/ Extractos de la entrevista de Nancy Glass al psicopata y asesino multiple Jeffrey Dahmer https://x.com/Lastname_18/status/1820612600725397813 Psicopatia. Enciclopedia Britanica https://www.britannica.com/topic/psychopathy Eugenesia https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenesia Malthusianismo https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusianismo Ley de hierro de la oligarquía https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_de_hierro_de_la_oligarqu%C3%ADa Haz de lictores: historia y simbolismo https://phileasdelmontesexto.com/haz-de-lictores-historia-y-simbolismo/ GOLPE DE ESTADO FEDERAL: LA TRAMA BILDERBERG PARA DESTRUIR ESPAÑA https://laverdadocultablog.wordpress.com/2017/11/15/federa-et-impera-golpe-de-estado-federal-contra-espana/ UTP42 ¡Cuidado, nos federalizan! https://www.ivoox.com/utp42-cuidado-nos-federalizan-audios-mp3_rf_26643583_1.html Pirámide de Maslow https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pir%C3%A1mide_de_Maslow Muerte de tres niñas en el acuchillamiento múltiple desata una ola de violencia en Reino Unido https://efe.com/mundo-2/2024-08-01/muerte-ninas-acuchillamiento-reino-unido/ 11M, CASO ALCASSER Y LA CAÍDA DE MARIO CONDE https://tecnicopreocupado.com/2015/11/04/11m-caso-alcasser-y-la-caida-de-mario-conde/ 22 DE MAYO, CRISIS FINANCIERA, ATENTADOS Y EL SOUFFLÉ DEL CASO MALDITO https://tecnicopreocupado.com/2018/05/06/22-de-mayo-crisis-financiera-atentados-y-el-souffle-del-caso-maldito/ Una cena preñada de tolerancia entre católicos y masones https://www.marioconde.org/blog/2010/02/un-almuerzo-prenado-de-tolerancia-entre-catolicos-y-masones/ ¿Por qué Mario Conde ha indignado a la masonería? https://www.eltriangle.eu/es/2016/06/17/noticia-es-43208/ LA CONFORMACIÓN DE LA PROVINCIA JESUÍTICA DE TOLEDO EN TORNO AL GENERALATO DE DIEGO LAÍNEZ (1556-1565) https://hispaniasacra.revistas.csic.es/index.php/hispaniasacra/article/download/420/419/419 Es Clave 003 Capítulo 005 https://odysee.com/@tecnico.preocupado:7/Es-Clave-003-Cap%C3%ADtulo-005:d? El sórdido crimen de Pier Paolo Pasolini... cineasta, poeta y atormentado. https://www.burbuja.info/inmobiliaria/threads/el-sordido-crimen-de-pier-paolo-pasolini-cineasta-poeta-y-atormentado.1852159/ Saló o los 120 días de Sodoma (abstenerse mentes débiles) https://ok.ru/video/1582822197833 ………………………………………………………………………………………. Música utilizada en este podcast: Tema inicial Heros ………………………………………………………………………………………. Epílogo Tropa do Carallo - ... O Esclavos https://youtu.be/kymD0VGXSgQ?feature=shared

jD, what gives it's Friday! Well I've decided to take a pause to reflect on the list thus far. I've enlisted Allison from Portland and Elvar from Iceland to go on this journey. They will discuss, dissect and debate the list as it stands thus far. Enjoy!Transcript:Track 2:[0:15] Hey, it's J.D. here, back for another episode of the Pavement Top 50 Countdown. Hey, wait a minute. It's Friday. I can't be doing the countdown today. I just did number 20 on Monday. We're cracking the top 20.Track 2:[0:31] This coming Monday, we're going to hit song number 19, if you can believe it. We're so far down this list, it makes me cuckoo bird. because we've yet to sort of analyze the list with context. So we're going to remedy that today. I've got two people that are chomping at the bit to discuss, dissect, and talk in detail. How do you like that alliteration? About the list thus far. Song 50 to song 20. That's right. right, they are going to tear that son of a bitch limb from fucking limb and talk to you about whether songs are rated too high, too low, just right. Are songs missing from this list that should be in the 50 to 20 range? Are there songs in the 50 to 20 range that you would not have in the top 50 or should they be inside the top 50 if they're not inside the top 20 i don't know what i just said there i'm a little fucked up so there's that so let's get right to this let's waste no more time we have got allison from portland and elvar from iceland joining us elvar how the fuck are you doing, man?Track 1:[1:56] Pretty good. Pretty good. Elvar over here. Good to be here, man. Thanks for inviting me on. It's good to have you over.Track 2:[2:03] So from Icelandic, we go to Portlandic. Portland get it uh anyway uh allison from portland how are you doing motherfucker it's.Track 1:[2:14] Going great um allison over here and uh yeah thanks for thanks for having us yeah it's really great i love the pavement poster in your background by the way thank you that's pretty pretty slick um so you, know i don't think it's fair to go into the list before we get a sense of your pavement origins origin stories. We sort of need to hear those. So, Allison, we'll start with you. Yeah, I'll give a little origin story.Track 1:[2:44] So, my freshman year of college, it would have been all through high school and stuff. I was really into post-punk and just all kinds of punk rock and stuff like that. And I got really, really into the fall. And then I met a guy on an internet dating website who told me if I should, or I guess it would be an app, but he said, if you like the fall, you should listen to Pavement because the fall was one of their influences. And we can get into that and my thoughts on that opinion that some people have a little bit. But either way, I listened to Pavement and totally loved it. And it was just kind of like the soundtrack to my college career. And then since then, I've just, it always stuck with me. And over the past couple of years, getting to see him play all the reunion shows and stuff, it's just been a huge part of my life. So, yeah, it's a band that's influenced by all the stuff that I love. And did something totally unique. So yeah, that's kind of how I got into them. How cool is that? It's almost as though they were constructed in a laboratory just for Allison. That's how I feel, yeah.Track 2:[4:09] So Allison, is there anything you want to tell us about live performances you've seen? Anything like that?Track 1:[4:16] The Portland reunion show as they kicked off the tour a couple years ago. Well, I saw them two times since then. Then I saw him in Seattle and then also in Salt Lake City since then. And then hopefully seeing him, well, definitely seeing him in Seattle again later this year. So, like, cool. Oh, yeah? Oh, cool. Yeah, they're playing Bumper Shoot, so. Right, right, right. Yeah. And then I guess that'll be the end, right? Because we've got news of the Hard Quartet. Yeah.Track 1:[4:47] Yeah i think what's that alvar you haven't heard no what's that malcolm has uh announced his next band oh yeah the hard quartet yeah the hard quartet yeah i heard the hardcore set yeah how do you guys like the new track by the way i honestly haven't listened yeah you allison have you heard it yeah i like it yeah it's pretty good yeah very very gixxy for sure yeah for sure yeah i'm excited to see the rest of the record definitely i'm probably gonna wait for the whole record to drop because i like to listen to things yeah like completely when i heard the song i was like yeah it's i'm gonna i'm gonna love it in context definitely it's a context song i think you know today is all about context isn't it we're putting context to the list you know we're now i want to hear about your yes yes sure so in 2010 i was introduced to payment in my early 20s so i used to be like a rocker like i was into guns and roses when i was seven and music has always been like big for me and then this guy outney from this icelandic band fm belfast he was like hey you have to check out pavement you know like wowie sawie and i got p clip that's the first one i got okay i thought it was okay then i went to this record store and this guy was like yeah this is the best payment album gave me bright in the corners which is debatable and then i just got into it i remember just like going to youtube and listening to these like slanted and and and crooked rain, and just like, it blew my mind, you know?Track 1:[6:17] Like, it changed my life. And like I said, I was like 22 or something. So I got fairly late into the game, but I'm born in the late 80s. So...Track 1:[6:28] I saw Stephen Malkovich and the Jigs at November 19th in 2011 in Milan at a place called The Tunnel and we had a really nice interaction. I did like a shout out. I shouted out, do not feed the claustrophobic oyster which was my funny way of kind of requesting the track you know and Malkovich did like a skit like we but a lot I remember like I forget what he said but he finished it up with we don't know in songs about oysters so you know that was pretty cool so.Track 1:[7:04] And i don't know if you guys know but pavement played here last uh summer like three nights yeah and that's like a thing like wilco did it i went and saw all three wilco shows nick cave just did it because he sold out so it's like a hot shit in iceland to come and do like a vegas you know thing so so that was pretty i'm so regretful that i didn't make it i wanted to go so badly and i made some really good friends from america who i'm talking to like daily now you know like through through pain so that's awesome so yeah pavement bringing people together since 1989 1989. Definitely. Definitely. Let me say this though. They did play some of the same songs like, you know, throughout the night. What Wilco did, they played three, 23 tracks at, and never the same song. And that was mind blowing. So kudos to Wilco. I don't know if I can throw that out at the payment. Of course you can. Of course you can. That was like, like fuck, you know, so, but awesome. Awesome. Great. That's my origin story.Track 1:[8:13] All right. Well, we sound like we've got two qualified, bonafide folks here to analyze this list. So let's start at the start.Track 1:[8:25] What do you think? Have you been listening? Have you been arguing with yourself when you hear some of these songs come out and you hear these people talk about the virtues of these songs? Songs um are you pleasantly surprised are you disappointed give it to me all alvar you can start buddy a little bit of both do you want me to start with the songs who are too lower or or too high you know you you are the leader my friend let me start with this loretta scars is at number 34 and that's probably my single favorite songs of all time uh wow just i don't know just the way he You guys know the song, the way he sings it in this pleating, nonchalant tone.Track 1:[9:17] And when it kicks into full gear, I can just fucking hear eons of human history in that song, for lack of a better word. Really? And like the way he sings it, like the way he sings Loretta's scars, the way his voice like winds up on Loretta and then lazily speaks the scars. I fucking love that. That's my favorite vocal melody of all time. And I don't know why, just like if people, for the last 10 years, if people ask me, what's your favorite song? I always go to that song. It's just.Track 1:[9:57] So you're pissed at 34? 34 yeah where is it on your list it's it's definitely higher than 34 because i i love that song um i don't know i'm not super good with like the different like with like pedal talk but whatever tone um he's got on that like fuzzy slanted era guitar is like one of my favorite tones so yeah um i think loretta scars is like one of the best examples of that and um i don't one of my favorite things that malchus does with his voice is like change register a lot like kind of what you're saying and um he does it beautifully in that song um yeah i definitely think that one could have been higher but i think a lot of the slanted songs could be higher but that's my my My own preference. And the lyrics. Interesting note, at number 34, that's the first song from Slanted and Enchanted on the list. That's the lowest one. That's the lowest one. Interesting. Yeah. That's insane. That's insane. I don't know how many others are on the list. I can't tell you, but. Right. But.Track 1:[11:16] But it's cool. He's using like, Mark Musch uses two guitar tunings on this album for these guitar heads. And he's using the C, G, D, G, B, E tuning, which makes this really nice dissonance. Like he's doing pop chords, but like, you know, that's what's great about this album. You know, he's doing like pop chords, these weird left field pop structures, but with these, you know, alternative tunings that really bring this awesome, awesome flavor, you know, and Gary's on the drums.Track 1:[11:49] It's just like, I don't know. It's just a beast. She's a beast yeah i could go on about that song you know but like you know i'll just i'll just have to do like a separate youtube video on it but you know yeah definitely allison do you have one you want to pick up i was very surprised to see where is it so i can make sure i get the number right i was very surprised to see pueblo at 39 because i thought that could be way higher um it's funny because like in the 30s and 40s i i mean i guess that's still pretty high out of 100 but a lot of my absolute favorites are on here so like pueblo number 39 and starlings the slipstream at 40 those two are like two of my favorites so seeing those ranked at that level right next to each other um is a little bit interesting i think they're similar songs too um just in the way that they kind of get into this like mellow ballad um era from from that that time of pavement where he kind of leaned into the more melodic ballads a little bit.Track 1:[13:04] Uh, and it's like a lot of belting out and sort of like a climax in the song. Uh, I really associate that with those two tracks. So I was really thinking it would be higher than, um, that level. And then there's some other ones on there. I said slanted, but I guess more of what I was referring to is like the early, like Westing and like before they did, uh, more of the full length records. And it was a lot of like EPs and stuff. A lot of those early days are my favorite songs. So I thought that some of these would be a little bit higher too. Like Home would be one. Yeah. Yeah, there's very little representation on the three EPs. I'm just looking quickly here. Yeah. And. Five, six songs. Yeah, like maybe Pacific Trim. There's one from Pacific Trim. So in the top. Yeah. Gosh, in the stuff that we've listened to, I almost gave something away. But in the stuff that we've listened to so far, there's nothing from the three EPs. Oh, really? I thought Forklift was in there. Wait, do you mean the early ones? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What about Hackler Spray? Isn't that there?Track 1:[14:21] Hackler Spray is in the 93. It's on the top 100. It's on the top 100, but not the top 50. Oh, we're not going to the 100. Sorry, sorry, sorry. We're talking about 50, yeah. We're talking about 50, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I was going over those two a lot and being like, I don't know about this, but anyways. I saw that... Can I go on? I saw that Blackout was number 20. That's easily a top five for me.Track 1:[16:49] A top five definitely and I feel that song and paired with like Motion Suggest Itself and Father of a Sister of a Thought like these three are examples of Malkmus and the band, making up this like unique style when the music and the lyrics and the melodies and the performances are all put together somewhere between indie rock and alternative country but neither, and I don't know, it's so weary and so stoned and so depressed, and I feel like even if we listen to the stuff that was going on on Crooked and the stuff that was going on Bright in the Corners, similar songs like Lorraine's Live or Finn or something.Track 1:[17:37] There's this point in time where they made the songs, and just like Pueblo, and Grounded, for me, probably top five songs ever on an album, never matched in production, and resonance just the way it sounds, the way it feels with the lyrics I haven't done psychedelics and listened to those songs but it would just really crush my soul probably in a good way and I realized that going through and I'm really listening to it and I was like wow this is the best stuff that I, and I can't really, if you guys can give me an example of something that sounds similar I would love to hear it you know like Like, like, like if I could challenge you like that, I don't know. I know I like, I'm experiencing this different differently than you guys, but like really blows my mind.Track 1:[18:28] Like, yeah, I'm trying to think, but like, wow. He is an interesting record to try and find comps on. Right. Because it's so all over the place. Yeah. It's got elements of those first EPs. Like, I think those, you know, those burst songs that are anywhere from like a minute 30 to like two 10. You know, that almost feel incomplete, but they're still awesome.Track 1:[18:50] They're on there. And then you've got something like Father to a Sister of Thought. And then you've got, like, it's just so diverse. Yeah. Yeah. The reason I love Wowie Zowie is because it really feels like they piecemealed together a record that's just like super, like you said, diverse. Verse and it has a it has a very sort of like exile on main street or um yeah yeah i mean honestly that'd be my biggest comparison just in terms of like the spirit of the record because there's so many different things going on and so many different types of songs and even like, genres almost like yes some of it is really poppy stuff some of it is like they really harken back to like the early EPs on Huawei Zhaoyi.Track 1:[19:38] Yeah would you guys never just cut it down to like a 46 two-side record have you never thought about that i would love to know the the spiral like i hope someday that comes out did he want to do that he had a track listing at some point for the record that was about an 11 song record i think okay and uh i would love to know the sequence and i would love to know what didn't make the cut but that would be crazy would you guys not cut anything of it i would keep it exactly as it is yeah yeah i probably would too i'm i'm very much um i really think that they got their records right in terms of like the sequence of them and what songs were included on them like i love hearing you know the bonus releases that have come out that incorporate like like, unreleased songs or b-sides from singles or whatever, but I think the way they laid their records out is pretty perfect most of the time. Well put, well put, yeah.Track 1:[20:40] They're five records, and they're all different, and they're all very, very good, like, bordering on masterpieces if they're not masterpieces. Like, don't get me wrong, it's my ultimate favorite band, but I love to nitpick, you know, like... That's why you're here, buddy, that's why you're here. That's fun, yeah. I was happy to see You Are Light in the top 50 because I feel like that's a super underrated Terror Twilight song.Track 1:[21:12] It's definitely like the highlight of that record for me. So I was really happy that was on there. What do you guys think about that one? It's one of my favorites on that record, for sure. It made my top 70, definitely. And yeah, sorry, I went over the 50, I forgot. But yeah. Oh, that's okay. You're the light. That's a beautiful one. Definitely. It is. You are a light. I love the way it begins. I know that sounds very specific, but it's just sort of flipping on, kind of, you know? Yeah. Yeah, definitely.Track 1:[21:48] And whatever where where is that on the it was number 45 is you are light okay yeah so shoot the shoot the singer at 25 that for me is a top 10 what do you guys think oof yeah i mean all of the i feel like watery domestic songs are way up there for me i think he really they really found.Track 1:[22:14] What the band was about with those songs like yeah the singer i'm glad it's in the top 25 because i feel like some of the the ep songs like don't get as uh much traction with like newer, you know pavement fans like it took me a while after getting into them to listen to like the eps and stuff like that so glad that people are listening to it i think that's a great song what's interesting to me is you look at shoot the singer is 25 and then texas never whispers is 22 i would definitely flip those two yeah uh i love texas never whispers i think uh watery is, absolutely perfect it's it's even the even the outtakes from it greenlander etc are are uh so So Stark, um, they're, they're great songs as well, but, um, I like shoot the singer better. So yeah, it would be, it would be, it would have to be higher. I don't know where I could put it, but I feel like everything from watery could be in my top 15. Yeah. Like lions is 61. That's definitely a top 20. And yeah.Track 1:[23:30] Yeah, that's a great one. And it's also like you said, this perfection of this era. We have this super low, down-tuned guitar accompanying the bass that's barely audible, and then a slightly distorted guitar making all these single notes all over the place accompanying the vocals. And Malkomash is just nailing the vocals, and Gary is just nailing these drum fills, and the lyrics are great. And I don't know if I'm going too deep into it, but I feel like the lyrics on Watery, They are their own things. They are different from the lyrics on Crooked Rain and different from the lyrics.Track 1:[24:05] On Maui Sawi. It's amazing. I'm so glad we got this session because they were evolving so fast. And even like these extra tracks, like on the LA Desert Origins, we have like sessions from 93, like early Elevate Me Later and Rains Live and Grounded stuff. Stuff that's just like the band it's got gary it's got like some of it's got gary right yeah and then you can see the bands just doing different versions of these songs and just how, how full of magic they were back then you know just like i don't know just makes me realize how freaking great they actually are and were you know so yeah watery definitely absolutely yeah definitely up there yeah they found it yeah i one of my favorite things about gary's drumming um i play the drums and he really inspired me a lot because um he really leaned into like you don't have to play like a one four beat and keep it like you know a regular rock beat like he always kind of threw in some sort of like strange like instrumentation for keeping time and i think a A lot of the watery songs had that and a lot of the slanted songs had that.Track 1:[25:22] Um well think about his choice even his choices on on summer babe that that hi-hat that that like triple with the hi-hat like going into yeah like that's cool like that's innovative right like that sounds like something i haven't really heard that much definitely right that's yeah that's exactly what i'm talking about that sort of just like interesting unique spin on things that he did I don't know if you guys noticed I had to like my friend had to point it out to me on Loretta Scars when he's singing from now on I can see the sun he's just doing.Track 1:[26:00] On the hi-hat and the and the snare and nothing else a little bass drum, and I didn't notice like like just like you said super left field stuff but still fits so much that like you know oh yeah great great drummer rest in peace gary rest in peace that's right, now have either you guys had the chance to see the documentary no i wonder when it's going to come out like gary i got a i got a chance to watch it because i interviewed the director and he sent me a link so i could watch it but i assumed it would be out by now like i haven't i haven't talked about that on the podcast because don't they just go around these they have to go around for like sometimes a few months or something around these different, festivals. Right. Before that's true. Yeah. But yeah, definitely. Is it good? How is it? It was good. It was really interesting. He's an interesting dude, man. He's far out.Track 1:[26:59] Is it like a documentary style? It's a documentary, yeah. It's a documentary on his life, yeah. I wasn't familiar with Plant Man and the solo stuff that he did after Pavement, so that was really fun to get a chance to see. Interesting. Yeah. I'm not super familiar with that. Yeah. Me neither. It's really a poppy song, too. It's goofy, but it's sort of like, I don't know, it's really sort of mainstream-y, you know? All right you have to send it to me later yeah i'll do that yeah sure there's also this oh the movie like no no no no you can't do that obviously the song right yeah i was like wait a minute no i can't do that um but there's also this live action movie sorry like if i'm digressing too much that's okay we're here to talk live action with these actors like doing the yes yeah what do you think yeah have you seen any i'm i'm very excited about it um my understanding is that uh Tim Heidecker and Jason Schwartzman are playing two of the guys who started Matador. Their names escape me right now.Track 1:[28:08] And it's just kind of like, I think the original concept that I read about a couple of years ago was that it was going to be half documentary about the reunion shows. And then the other half was kind of like a retelling of how Pavement came together with actors. Um that's what i read at one point i'm not sure if maybe that has changed but um yeah i'm super excited about that because i love a lot of the actors that are involved with that um so yeah i can't wait me too uh like i want a release date and i want a trailer date like when are we going to get that man yeah and the guy who's playing marshmallows he's got this marshmallow chin in cuteness you know so um let's go to songs who are rated too high you know like since we are kind of or what do you think yeah absolutely drive the boat man drive the boat fin fin fin at 24, that's not in my top 70 for sure uh what do you guys think not in your top 70 nope, I was a little surprised to see that one that high also um.Track 1:[29:27] Yeah, by the time we get to number 20, by the time we get to number 24, you're sort of thinking, oh, maybe we're not going to hear Finn, you know, because it certainly shouldn't be much higher than that. I wouldn't put it inside the 20, but it would be in my top 40 for sure. For sure, for sure. Yeah. It's hard in rankings like this to not compare to other songs, because when I think of my favorite songs on Brighten the Corners, Finn isn't one of them. So I think that sort of mentally impacts how I view the list. I did think that just because of how incredibly influential and popular that single was, I did think that Cut Your Hair would be higher than 21. Me too. That was so surprising, wasn't it? People are sick of it. It's just that, right? People are sick of it. If that's the case, how come Harness Your Hopes is on the top 50? It shouldn't be. No, it would have been much higher if it hadn't gotten the resurrection.Track 1:[30:41] I think it would have been higher. Let me ask you, Alison, when you listened to Brighton & Cornish for the first time, was it the original 12-track album? Album i believe so i i didn't listen to um the full extended version that they released in like 2008 until a couple years ago i think so and that's your that's your favorite album jd am i right about that it is my favorite yeah and you but it floats it floats because i love crooked rain i love i don't you can't count watery but yeah i think because i got the deluxe edition and And then it's followed by the hacks and then it ends with like harness your hopes and roll with the wind. So I just kind of took it, you know, cause I was so new into the band. So I didn't really take fin as this end song. So it was kind of, I think that might have, you know, uh, interesting. It does work really well as like an end to the album, which was the intention, I believe. So, yeah. I still think it was I still think it was Anna SM.Track 1:[31:49] Flirting at that point with the idea I think so interesting point yeah, it would have been a good way to end it have you guys heard the 94 version there's like a live 94 version it's slightly more fast tempo no I kind of like that better they played it And like 94 life, it started on YouTube. Yeah. Oh, shit. It's like in Oklahoma or something. Maybe I'll play it during this podcast. I'll intercut it.Track 5:[32:27] We'll be right back.Track 5:[32:44] People, see where they're at Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, No one has the blues No one has the blues No one has the nights ¶¶, I don't want to be called in the middle Look what you say to me.Track 5:[33:55] No one has a clue No one has a clue No one has a clue No one has to do it, baby.Track 1:[34:27] What about Fight This Generation? What do you guys think about that? I thought that could have been higher for sure. That's one of my favorites. yeah one of my favorites can you tell me what you love about that song can you articulate it um i think that i like it um from like a mood perspective it feels like, uh it could be a soundtrack to a movie or something um the change about halfway through the song where Malthus is doing that riff and then the tempo kind of picks up. And then there's like this moment when Malthus's voice kind of cracks a little bit. And I think it's just like the coolest thing ever. It's when he goes like, fight this generation. I always thought it was funny a little bit, but it's, it's so cool. It sounds, it sounds really cool to me. So that's definitely like a top 10 song for me.Track 1:[35:33] Yeah, it feels like the part in the movie where something bad or scary is about to happen, but like in a really awesome way. So because I only real. Oh, sorry. When I went to see traditional techniques, the tour for that, it was just him by himself and his MacBook and that lovely blue guitar. And um he he played a version of fight this generation and it was so cool it was so low-key, uh like i struggled at the beginning to figure out what it was i was really high but i mean i was i was listening to it and i was like what is this i know this song i know this song and then all of a sudden you know when when when you hear sweet yardley it's like oh yeah all right cool and then it just makes you want to jump up and down right after that after we get that you know that we get sort of lulled into submission and then all of a sudden it's just like wham smack you over the head yeah yeah i definitely think that uh major leagues is a little high for me personally that was never never uh a favorite of mine i don't know it just like never really clicked with me. I love the music video, but it's just not my favorite song.Track 1:[36:58] But yeah, definitely. Going back, really, Malkmus is an underrated vocalist for sure. The way he can draw out his shit and just crack his voice and do whatever. It's like the next generation Lou Reed, but just a little cuter and a little more nuanced or something. And Lou Reed is probably my favorite artist besides Malkmus. So you know yeah he has a really he has a wide range like more than than a lot of other rockers that i could think of um he makes choices he makes choices that just aren't common as well, like if if there's two paths and one is the past that's the path that is well traveled,Track 1:[37:49] he often goes on down the other path and i don't think he does that to be you know um different or far out or whatever i think it's just he's really good on that other path he's really good but yeah he was also very lucky to team up with spiral and oh my god yeah and gary in the beginning and then mark and and bob and steve you know like yeah i mean on his own he would have been great but just Just imagine Paul McCartney on his own. He would have been good, but not.Track 1:[38:23] It's all a matter of chance, but what a great... So, hot take, Stop Breathing No. 28 doesn't crack my top 70 at all, you know. Top 70, he says again. There's actually, like I said, there's this version on the Crooked Rain, LA's Desert Origins Deluxe CD, the No. 2 CD, from a session recorded in early 93 at Gary Studios.Track 1:[38:50] The gritty version, do you remember that one? if you guys go and listen to the the second cd of the the deluxe version of crooked rain you can hear like a more gritty version of uh is that the egg eggshell version no no that's that's the actual version is the heaven is a truck this is like oh right yes you're right this is the first first question on that song and he's saying like stop he's instead of saying stop breathing he starts saying start breathing start breathing and then start bleeding and then he says dad now i know that you broke me and i'm like wow okay yeah that's uh i don't know maybe i've listened too much to the the first one you know but like i really i really love that session you like all my friends ls2 the the original elevate me later and you know that's a great great great session soon yeah i love that we have access to some of the um i don't know the sessions that didn't make it to the albums and you can see how the song progressed as they were writing it so yeah how the lyrics changed and sort of the arrangement could change over time and what do you guys think about all my friends being at number 64 i think that's a gem oh sorry that's not 50 oh god damn Yeah. Sorry.Track 1:[40:13] Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. You guys remember that one? Everybody's going. Yeah. Yeah. I feel, I feel that. Would that be in your top 70? That would be in my top 25. Okay. If, if, if they had taken those two first minutes, you know, and not gone into the second three minutes where it breaks down, because I feel like they started as this one. Of the best starts ever. Everybody's going out tonight, everybody's hanging out tonight, it's all right. Such a teenage nostalgia. And then when he starts shouting, I need it, I need it, and his voice breaks and the guitar is playing top.Track 1:[40:58] That's for me, it's one of the best shit I've ever heard in my life. But unfortunately, it digresses from pure genius Genius onto like a sub-part track. So that's why it's top 25 and not like... In your top 10. Yeah, definitely. I don't know. How do you guys feel about that song? I like that song a lot, but I don't know... I don't know that I have a lot of feeling about it one way or the other as to where I'd put it on even my personal list. And my personal list doesn't go much higher than 20 just because that would just make my head explode. That's why I feel like when you're saying top 70, I'm like, holy shit. Yeah, I tried just going through all of the songs and just putting them just for fun. And, you know, the top five are really easy. Top 10, fairly easy. Top 20. then the top 30 40 you can start interchanging them how you feel 50 60 70 they change between days i'm not saying that but i'm like throwing it out just like i say you know yeah i definitely think as we move from here into the top 20 it's gonna get really difficult because i um even just like looking at the way these are ranked sometimes it's like difficult for me to see how i would tier them because if i start thinking about them or i hear them then i might change my mind i don't know yeah about some of these well let's talk about this a little bit more then yeah allison um.Track 1:[42:27] Let's investigate a little bit more about what would be inside your top 20 what are you anticipating what are you looking forward to where do you think things will land based on what you've got so based on where we are um there's definitely some of my favorite tracks that are kind of missing from uh the list so far um and yeah i'm just curious what there is uh from there I'd love to see every song that they ever released on a list and then work back to see what's missing. Because looking at this, even just from 100 to 21 right now, there's a lot on there. So it's taken me a minute to think about what's missing. But yeah, I'm definitely hoping to see a lot more of like the early days in the top 20, just because I, you know, it makes me excited to think that people are appreciating like that era of pavement for sure. Like the early piece.Track 1:[43:40] Yeah, yeah, definitely. Always excited to hear people talking about those and listening to those. So, yeah. Yeah, between those and Slanted, which have been, you know, not represented very well so far in this bottom 30, I have to think we're going to, you know, start to peel that layer, right? Like, we've got to see some Slanted stuff in this top 20. Like, numerous, numerous songs. More crooked. Yeah. Definitely. Where does Summer Babe land for you guys?Track 1:[44:19] I definitely think it could be pretty high up for me. I mean, yeah, I love that song. To my top 15, absolutely, with a bullet. Yeah, top 10, definitely. It actually made things easy for me. I just downloaded the whole discography and put it into iTunes and fucked around with it for like two days. And that really, really put it into perspective. Because it's a lot when you see the list, it really jumbles up your mind. I was like, oh, you know, getting like kind of disoriented. So yeah, for sure.Track 1:[44:48] Yeah yeah summer babies on there what do you guys think about my friend i know never mind i was gonna go back into the what about our our singer is that is is that not in the top 50.Track 1:[45:00] No i don't think so no okay okay okay what about grave architecture that's number 32 two for me it's top 50 what do you guys think top 15 top 50 okay yeah i i think it belongs up here for sure that's such a catchy song oh yeah yeah that's a really good example of like the vocal register change like it hurts so rad and i'm fucking glad i i love that that's actually the part that really turns me off because i think the beginning when he says come on in that's also one of the best vocal melodies ever it's like three words and the way malchmus says these three words come on in it's one of the like top beginnings and songs ever but i feel like it kind of digresses for me with that pulled so red and i'm glad so yeah it's interesting to hear like different yeah you guys are so diametrically opposed there that's funny yeah yeah it is it is i i'm curious like in terms of where we're going um what i haven't seen that i was really surprised to not have seen yet is that we haven't seen um silent kid on here yet so yeah i'm definitely.Track 1:[46:21] Yeah me too i a couple years ago made a list of like my favorite songs of all time and that was on there, like pavement aside, that's definitely one of them. So I'm curious if that will show up. Did I ask you just for fun, where do you guys rank Blackout? Are you happy with 20? Where would you put it? Did you already tell me? No, I didn't tell you. I think it's fine at 20. Yeah, I think it's fine. You would have it higher? Like I said, top 5 definitely, all time. What about you, Allison? I'd probably I mean, it's a great song. But again, it's like thinking about other songs, it probably would get bumped down from 20 if I had like, all the song titles in front of me, right?Track 1:[47:11] Yeah okay cool but it's a great song yeah yeah definitely so what else are you looking for in the top 20 avar have we seen rattled by the rust no we haven't seen rattled by the rust no, rattled by the rust i mean frontwards definitely elevate me later one of my all-time favorites, you know i know rain still life is going to be there gold sound is going to be there the more obscure songs that I would love to have seen that are not on there are like, Passat Dream from Bread in the Corner the Spiral song that for me is also like kind of the like Lorehatter Scars it kind of brings out eons of kind of human civilization if that means anything it just like opens up my soul the way like how do you guys feel about that one Where's that? I like, yeah, I really like those two Spiral songs. And we've seen, I like a lot of Spiral songs, but I'm thinking from that record.Track 1:[48:14] We've seen Date with Ikea already, right? Where did it land? Yeah. 38. Do you guys think Pass a Dream is going to be there or not? In the top 20, what do you guys think? Which one? I don't know. Pass a Dream. dream it could be i mean a lot of this has surprised me yeah um yeah go on um i was gonna say i bet you like we'll see a little bit more of the wowie zowie songs too because like grounded's not on here yet um it doesn't look like father to a sister of a thought is on here so i'm i'm I'm curious if those will get pretty high ranking as we go on. Western homes. What do you guys think about that one?Track 1:[49:04] The closer to what we saw i'm not in love with yeah i'm not in love with it i'm not in love with it i think it's a fun song but it's not like a favorite song no of mine i never liked it but then i went back to the album before this podcast and he's like your western homes are locked forever it's like summing up this paranoia that's building up at the you know turn of the century kind of and the way it's i don't know i love that ending of the album for me you say with the eclectic while we saw it definitely agree there it's like a and kennel district at 23 what do you guys think about that did you like it that high i'm glad to see it there because i feel like and i'm talking about this like i don't know but i feel like unless we get painted soldiers, but painted soldiers is in the top 100 i think um yeah i don't know that we're gonna see another other spiral song like i'm more i feel like kennel district might be yeah his biggest might be the last spiral song we see i you know again i'm not tipping my hand but it's a really great fucking song and i'm trying to think are there spiral songs on record because preston school of industry is great um.Track 1:[50:22] Uh oh fuck what one am i thinking about what's the one that uh he and sm do the like the duet on like where they're back at four circa 1970 that's right 1768 yeah i think that's in the top 100 yeah that's 62 i i would knock that up to to a top 50 definitely me too i love that one love that one again especially because we've got both of them right we don't have very many where you get to hear no you know so yeah it's pretty rare i can't really think of another well there's maybe a couple but yeah i i love kennel district that's definitely my favorite spiral song, it's a great song i feel like if we were to ask a lot of people they would say that's their favorite spiral song and that's to me is the harbinger of like doom you know that that it's going to be the last spiral song i just think it's insane there are 100 songs on there and And Pass a Dream. There are so many subpar pavement songs on this top 100. And that to me is a real... I'm upset about that one. It's not on the top 100?Track 1:[51:26] No. Let me look and see if it's on the whole list here. That's what I'm saying. I'll tell you where it is. Because the whole list goes up to 121. Ah, really? Oh, wow. There was enough songs. So Western Homes. What about Perfume V at 58? Did you guys think it is? Yeah, yeah. Even if it's not, it's almost in the top 50. How do you guys like that one? I love that song. I think it probably, it's a good spot for it.Track 1:[51:56] Definitely like close to top 50 at least. It's a great song. Yeah. Okay. So I'll tell you what 100 through 105 was. Okay. So number 100 was Baptist Black Tick. number 51 or 101 was stare no sorry 101 was baptist black stick 102 was stare number 103 was pass a dream uh number 104 was platform blues and number 105 was from slate tracks maybe maybe okay so there you go i'm think jackal's the lonesome error that has to be in the top 20 What do you guys think?Track 1:[52:36] Jackals, false grace, the lonesome era. That's a spiral song. That's spiral singing. I got one holy life to live. That's peril. Yeah. That's not the top 50 for you. What about you, Alvin? Oh, no. You said top 20. I wouldn't be in my top 20. I said top 20. Yeah. Yeah. I think probably not top 20, but it's definitely up there. Okay. Okay. Cool. cool that's like that's like top top 10 for me probably i love that one that's what keep going, I was going to say, I kind of feel similarly about Fame Throwa, because that's some of my favorite drumming that Gary did. I thought that would be way up there.Track 1:[53:21] I thought it would be in the top 50 for sure. Where did that end? 79, yeah. I don't know there's something about some of these songs like I've been talking about maybe like an acetate about eons you know like the eons of human existence kind of like you know and like Jackals, Loretta Scars Our Singer like I feel like You fucking love Slanted don't you There's this energy, and like I said if I had to pick the best top five songs of an album I said like Blackout, Grounded, Motion, Pueblo, and Father of a Sister of a Thought. I could maybe pick five of Slanted. But these 10 songs for me, I don't know. I think it's why I love Pavement so much. It's to me on another level that no one has ever reached.Track 1:[54:16] Yeah. Agreed. And that's why we're all here. We love this band. What about Camera? that's not on the list camera is on the top it's on the whole list but is it it might be the last song camera yeah camera is so that's 120 119 118 okay yeah how do you guys like that one that's my top that's a top 40 for me oh i fucking love his voice in that song when he really when he's really squealing yeah you know i like that yeah but would it be in my top 50 no probably not though there are a lot of songs left though for me if i try to rack my brain i have a hard time kind of filling it out with the songs that are here it's going to be well so what you're saying is it's going to be a surprise and you're going to keep tuning in so that's good to hear yeah yeah Yeah. So I really want to thank you for joining me tonight to have this discussion, this roundtable discussion. Any final thoughts? Excited for the top 20. All right. Well, we'll kick into that next week. We'll see what our predictions. Yeah, we'll see where our predictions end up. Coming on Monday, song number 19.Track 1:[55:34] And we'll see who's, yeah, that's going to be a good one. That's going to be a good one. It's going to be surprising. My take from this is just like, made me realize just how much I fucking love Pavement. Like I said, I knew it was my favorite band. And I'm sorry if I've been going way too into the nitty-gritty of the shit that obscure stuff, but it really blew my mind for the last two days, really going back to these songs and being like, wow, okay, they really... And after all the music I've gone through throughout these years, after I listened to Pavement, they're still just always up there. And thank you for doing this, JD. Thank you for your work. Oh, thanks, man. Awesome, awesome. Thank you. Awesome it's a lot that means really really you know yeah it's just so cool to see like other pavement fans and just know that they're still you know super relevant inspiring yeah yeah yes yeah and it'll make a nest like how close are you talking to muskmus you think oh me yeah i did you did oh you didn't listen to the yeah you gotta listen to the whole hear it i didn't hear it which Which episode is that? I want to say it's, Oh God, I don't know. I don't know what happened, but I know that it happened on Valentine's day. It happened on Valentine's day of 2022.Track 1:[57:00] I think. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Okay. Yeah. I fulfilled my destiny. Yeah, absolutely. Awesome. So anything you guys want to plug, anything that you have to plug, any projects that you're working on or anything online or anything like that. Allison, you mentioned you play drums. Are you in a band? I, uh, stay tuned. I don't have anything to plug just yet, but, um, yeah, hopefully we'll soon. Yeah, actually have a band that's going pretty good that I hope I can plug soon. Oh, awesome. I have a podcast called peeling the onion where I'm interviewing like musicians. So that's everywhere, like on Spotify and YouTube and stuff. So how many episodes? Yeah. Like seven. And I've talked to great people, like talk to looper low. The other day you know really he was awesome i talked to steve albini like february 20th so i was really lucky to get that one in and it's been like a lot of i'm talking to people i really admire you know what i mean so yeah i really taken the time to do like my homework so it's been a lot of fun for me because i love music as you guys can hear you know so cool so peeling the onion find that on podcast networks everywhere yeah and it sounds like a good one might be the One of the last interviews was Steve Albini, right? Yeah.Track 1:[58:23] Yeah. It's very sad because I was asking him like, so because I knew that he wanted to quit before he lost his hearing, you know? And he said like, I'm going to go on for like 10 more years. And, you know, like, you know, and it was just, and I know people who knew him personally and he was a really genuinely nice person and just such an influence on music overall. All like you guys know you know yeah so awesome yeah really nice to meet you guys you guys are really cool nice to meet you guys too yeah great to meet you too yeah all right stay cool that's what we got for you this week and wash your goddamn hands.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/meeting-malkmus-a-pavement-podcast/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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This week on the ole Pavement top 50 podcast, jD welcomes Amir from Providence to talk all about his Pavement origin story and to breakdown song 28!Transcript:Track 1:[0:00] Previously on the Pavement Top 50. Oh, I love this song so much. It's a song, I hadn't, it wasn't on my first wave of songs to study, even though I knew we were going to play it. But it wasn't, like, you know, there were other songs I felt like I had to nail more. So this was towards the end. I said, okay, let me get into this type slow jam. Hey, this is Westy from the Rock and Roll Band.Track 3:[0:24] And you're listening to The Countdown. Hey it's shay d here back for another episode of our top 50 countdown for seminal indie rock band pavement week over week we're going to count down the 50 essential pavement tracks that you selected with your very own top 20 ballots i then tabulated the results using an abacus and the kid from the sixth sense wait a minute am i dead how will your favorite song fare in the rankings. You'll need to tune in to find out. So there's that. This week, I'm joined by pavement superfan Amir from Providence. Amir, how the fuck are you? Hello, I'm calling from Providence, Rhode Island, and I'm very fine. Life is good. Excellent. That is good news. It's great to have you here. Let's just not beat around the bush. Let's get right into this. What is your Or pavement origin story. So that's a long origin story. So I live in Providence, Rhode Island, as I mentioned. By the way, cheers. This is local. Cheers. Watery domestic beer from Rhode Island. Narragansett Atlantic-like lager. So...Track 3:[1:37] A little plug for Atlantic Light Lager. Yeah. But anyway, yeah, that's very watery. Anyway, so I was not born here. I was born in Moscow, not Moscow, Idaho. Moscow, Soviet Union, which is more or less the same thing as Russia. And I grew up there in the 80s. And I loved music since I was, I don't know, since I remember myself. I started playing piano when I was four. So I listened to a lot of music it was also the 1980s were an exciting time for rock music in Russia because Russia was like after many decades of like complete censorship it was starting to open up and, rock music suddenly became legal so it was possible to listen to that, if you if this makes you curious I recommend everybody listen to the Wind of Change podcast It's just an amazing story. Oh, it's amazing. I've listened to it. Yes, it's brilliant. So, but, yeah, so I started, like, loving rock music when I was, like, a child. But we are a Jewish family, so we moved to Israel in 1991.Track 3:[2:52] And even though Russia was opening up back then, Israel was, like, always a very open country, open to everything. So we had MTV, or more precisely, we had MTV Europe, which is not exactly the same thing. Uh mtv like in the united states and mtv europe it's not exactly the same thing mtv europe has a lot of uh uk uh bias and uh like because it broadcasted from the uk uh and uh it's it also tried to incorporate some other european music like italian or german but it was mostly like very uk biased so that's when i was growing up mtv was uh important it was like there was no youtube YouTube kind of replaced MTV now but MTV was important culturally like hugely important not just for myself but for a lot of other people, but initially when I started like watching it it was kind of boring at least during the day but then during the night it got much more exciting because they started like after midnight, they started playing much more interesting stuff and there was a show called Alternative Nation I think it was every Tuesday on MTV Europe and they played stuff like Sonic Youth and Pavement and European what you would say alternative bands, like whatever alternative even means.Track 3:[4:18] I tried to figure out what does it even mean that it's alternative? Is it a certain guitar sound? It actually doesn't mean much at all. It's just rock music that is cooler than Bon Jovi. Well, what's funny, it was alternative to the mainstream and then it became the mainstream. Exactly. Like, if you look back at this, like, it was totally the mainstream. Like, Nirvana was alternative, but it was already quite the mainstream back in 1992. And by now, it's completely mainstream. But, you know, whatever. Names of things are sometimes funny. So, yeah. And they mentioned pavement occasionally. Now, initially, they mentioned, I didn't really dig it. Like I remember, I definitely remember they showed Cut Your Hair, of course. They never showed it during the day. They showed it late at night.Track 3:[5:12] I didn't really understand it. I was like, it just looked weird. And these days, I look at the Cut Your Hair video, and now I'm a Dan and I have children, and they look at it and they just think it's funny with the gorilla and the lizard. Yes. And I was just overthinking it totally. Like I was 15 years old. why what does what does this mean i was totally overthinking it um but yeah they should cut your hair and they i remember they showed the gold sounds video um maybe also yeah rattled by the rush like the weird the weird version with the bathtub okay didn't really understand like what's the deal with that so i did love like i did love a lot of other alternative bands like i loved sonic youth i loved therapy if you if you heard that's a band from northern ireland uh i love the, alternative, rock band, whatever that means.Track 3:[6:03] Anyway, so then I graduated high school. And as pretty much everybody else in Israel, I got drafted to the military. Now, what you don't hear, you often hear about the Israeli military on the news. What you don't hear about the Israeli military is that most people there, they don't do combat and wars and stuff like that. It's just, I work with computers And that's like what most people do. They work with, you know, cars, equipment, computers, whatever. I worked with computers. And I had a friend there. And that friend was much cooler than I am. He's probably still to this day much cooler than I am. And he had many more CDs than I had. And he knew alternative music like way better than I had. I did know Sonic Youth. Sonic Youth, which is another Samuel band. I did know Sonic Youth much better than he did. But other than that, he was like the huge expert. He taught me about cool bands like Mogwai and Mercury Rev and a bunch of others. And he taught me about pavement.Track 3:[7:08] And he gave me the Wowie Zowie CD to listen. Interesting. And I was immediately hooked. That was just incredible. So like from the first seconds of We Dance, oh my God, how did I miss that? We Dance is such a brilliant song. I'm just thinking about this. I will make this really weird comparison, but it kind of makes sense to me. Because like I mentioned that I play piano. I played piano for many years, like almost 40 years now. Oh my God. I'm old. And I...Track 3:[7:43] There's another band called Guns N' Roses. There is. Which is nowhere near as cool as Pavement. Nowhere near. But that's like the not-alternative thing that they were showing a lot on MTV. And I couldn't feel like, why are so many people excited about this band? And then I saw November Rain, which, ooh, it has piano. Piano is classy. So it's classy. It doesn't... No, I'm not comparing. I'm not comparing Guns N' Roses to Pavement, but We Dance had the piano, piano is classy. And so I heard like, Ooh, that's a much like, that's such an interesting song. And I absolutely loved it. And I loved the rest of the album as hectic and eclectic as it is and extremely long. I saw it described somewhere as three six-song EPs or six three-song EPs. That's probably the... That's an interesting way to look at it. Yeah, I saw it described like that somewhere. It's a very weird album, but it's so great. It's absolutely like all of it. I love it. And then I heard the rest of it from that friend. And he gave me like Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain, and Brighten the Corners.Track 3:[9:10] And later I just bought them all myself. So slanted, of course. So I have them all twice because they released them with the usual version and then the Lux and Redux and all those. LA Desert, they expanded. So I have them all twice.Track 3:[9:27] Yeah. And yeah, so that's kind of my pavement origin story. And yeah, and I became a super fan, I guess, around 98 or 99. Wow. So you got to experience Terror Twilight when it came out. That one you got to experience, right? In real time? Yep. What did you think of that at the time? It was very different. I did love it. I loved all the songs. I listened to it a lot back then.Track 3:[9:57] It's very different it's very different from if I really have I don't want to but if I really have to pick a favorite album it would probably be Crooked Rain Crooked Rain I really love them all but Terror Twilight is very different, has its own style unlike Wawizawi which has like 20 different styles but yeah, Terror Twilight definitely has a certain and particular.Track 3:[10:25] Integrated feel to it. Yeah, I would agree. So did you ever get a chance to see them live? Yeah. So first time I saw something related to Pavement, it was not Pavement. And it was not Malcolm's solo. It was a show in Israel, in Tel Aviv, in 2004. It was a tribute show, like a bunch of local Israeli bands played a tribute show to Pavement and Malcolm's. Really? It was pretty brilliant. Yeah. Israel has like a very varied music scene. Okay. Rock of all kinds of styles and jazz. I know nothing about it. It's not that known around the world, but it has a very rich, vibrant music scene. Mostly sang in Hebrew, but occasionally in English. So that show had bands singing mostly in English. Like I remember a band that I really loved, they performed Gold Sounds.Track 3:[11:27] And here, I think, uh, that's like, that, that's how I, that's how I found out about that show that like, there was a band that I, that I love. They, they, that band used to be called blush and lure back then. And they sang in English later. They changed the name of the band and they started singing in Hebrew, but, but back then they were singing in English and, uh, yeah. So they performed two songs there. I think it's definitely gold sounds and probably here. Here and uh yeah there was a bunch of other bands and like some of them did like very similar versions to the original some of them completely reworked them as like punk songs some of them translated the lyrics to hebrew like there was a i think it was father to a sister of thought they completely translated it to hebrew that was that was fun so anyway uh yeah that was a cool show. The second time I saw something pavement related was in 2010.Track 3:[12:23] 2010, that was the first big reunion in New York, in Central Park. That was a brilliant show. It's actually possible that you and I went to the same show. Yes, I know. Yeah. And yeah, I absolutely loved it. I think, like you mentioned a couple of times on your podcast, that, how did you describe it? That they seemed tired or something like that?Track 3:[12:48] Yeah, they just didn't seem into it. You know, the same way they did on this newer tour. Maybe, um, maybe I, I was absolutely excited about this. Oh, me too. At least, at least the part, they also seemed like very excited. Uh, the Stanowich was like ecstatic, uh, eyeballed, uh, who is like, usually very like quiet and, uh, serious. He was actually quite chatty on the stage. I remember, like, I remember him speaking to New York and how cool, like he's, he's from New York and how cool New York is and how cool Queens is. He, he mentioned Queens. I don't remember what he's, what did he say exactly, but like, he's like, are there people from Queens or something like that? Like he looked. I don't remember that. Yeah. And he's, he mentioned something like that. So anyway, um, yeah, it was, it was a fantastic show. Such a fantastic show.Track 3:[13:43] Heckler Spray, Summer Babe. Oh, wow. In the Mountain Desert. Uh, just a fantastic, fantastic show. So is the record that you go back to now, like, is it Wowie Zowie when you have a hankering for Pavement, or is it your favorite, Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain? I would probably say, it's so hard to say, I would probably say Crooked Rain and Slanted, but I love them all. I love them all. I listen to them all. There was a third Pavement-related thing I saw, and that was Malkmus.Track 3:[14:18] Malcolm's solo I think it was in 2012 or 13 it was the it was it was.Track 3:[14:26] Oh, I'm, I'm blacking out. Which, uh, which, uh, the album with, uh, uh, Senator, uh, which, which album is that? Mirror Traffic? Yes, that one. Uh, yeah. So that was, that was a brilliant show. Uh, that was a really brilliant show. Towards, towards the end, he did, uh, uh, something like, uh, funny, uh, Faith No More impersonation. Really? yeah like towards the end of the show he played he played a couple of famous so he played here and i think uh speaks he remember and uh at one of the songs towards the end they were like the jigs were getting all uh uh in a good mood and uh jamming and at some point they just started started playing um what's the famous faith no more song epic yeah yeah they just I started playing that. That's so cool. Yeah. Anyway, it was a brilliant rock and roll show. So yeah, so these are the three Pavement-related shows I attended. Nice. Well, what do you say we take a quick break and come back and talk about song number 28? Let's do that. Let's do that. Hey, this is Bob Mustanovich from Pavement.Track 1:[15:43] Thanks listening. And now on with a countdown. 28.Track 3:[20:18] Song number 28 on the countdown comes from Crooked Rain. Crooked Rain, amazingly, it's the first song from their sophomore effort to appear on this list. You can exhale now because track 28 is Stop Breathing. Amir. Yeah. What are your initial thoughts about this song? I love this song. It appears in my top 20 that I sent you. I think it's number 14 there. so it's, half of your number I know maybe I should have rated it even higher it's like it's a brilliant song it's kind of special I made a bit of homework so it has the, it has if I'm not mistaken I learned music for many years but maybe I'm mistaken about something but almost all Pavement songs have the quadruple rhythm 1, 2, 3, 4 okay this one is Because the correct term here is probably the six-eighths rhythm. Oh, okay. One, two, three, one, two, three, one, two, three, one, two, three.Track 3:[21:27] So there are not a lot of pavement songs in this rhythm. On the studio albums, it's just Our Singer and Stop Breathing. And half of Fight This Generation, the beginning of Fight This Generation. Oh, okay. The rest, and well, there's also 5-4 equals Unity, which begins in 5-4ths. And then I think actually the chorus is also in 3-4ths or 6-8ths. And the rest of the pavement, well, in all the kinds of B-sides and bonus tracks, tracks uh there are a bunch of uh um six eighths uh songs uh mercy snack kentucky cocktail so stark sagano stray fire um and yeah that's about it you did do your homework i did do my homework there's also kneeling bus uh also known as rugrat which is a very weird beat that i couldn't completely understand a very very cool one uh but it's like it's neither four neither three but yeah so that's so it's pretty.Track 3:[22:36] It's pretty unique relatively unique in that regard it's beautifully placed in the track list at the third third spot kind of a different mood between like the big rockers the, uh elevate me later and uh cut your hair yeah so that one has a different mood it has very beautiful uh guitar sound uh throughout the song and especially of course towards the end, um so yeah i absolutely love the song one of the best they the pavement has very, pretty much no songs that uh i would like say that they are bad but this this one is really one one of the best so what's your relationship with this song uh crooked rain crooked rain you said is your favorite record so what do you remember about the first time you heard this song or.Track 3:[23:33] Something like that so so this was the this was the second album i heard uh after wavy zowie and it's relatively much more uh much more of a straightforward rock straight absolutely relatively, compare it compared to wawi especially the first song like it gets a bit weirder towards the end but uh the beginning of it it's like it's a relatively very straightforward i agree.Track 3:[23:58] In a classic rock album i i i heard somewhere that uh malcolm called it like disparagingly classic rock like he said that silent kid is a is a classic rock song in like in a not very good way, but he's wrong well it's maybe he was just sarcastic i don't know it was Because Silent Kid is a brilliant song. And Stop Breathing is a brilliant song. It has this really, really beautiful guitar sound and this beat. And it may be, oh my God, this is such a cool rock band with cool melodies. And they do all these things so easily. And it sounds like they were just having fun. But the song, it's kind of somber, kind of solemn, kind of serious. Yeah, I agree. Relatively. It has this special atmosphere. Nevertheless, it feels like while they're playing it, they're having a lot of fun with these guitars. Like, that's a really special guitar sound, especially towards the end. And it gets stronger and stronger.Track 3:[25:08] And oh my God, it's just so beautiful. It's just so inspirational. Yeah. What do you think the song is about? I have no idea. I barely ever listen to lyrics, to be honest. In music, I mostly listen to the melodies and the playing and the arrangements.Track 3:[25:31] Volley. Like, volley has a... It's kind of a... Like, it probably refers to both things. Like, both to the volley in sports. ports and in the war. And that's kind of a menacing word. It's struck by the first volley. So that gets you in a kind of a tragic mood from the start. And then it says, stop breathing. And there's also this alternative version on LA Desert Origins where he says, start bleeding, like stop breathing and then start bleeding. Really? Yeah. I gotta re-listen to LA Desert Origins. My memory is so shit. Oh, well. Yeah. It's like the comment there is that it's from Louder Than You you think, 1993, and it's probably, I don't know, maybe it's a demo, maybe it's not a demo, maybe it was at some point intended to be released. But in the chorus there, he says, stop breathing and then start bleeding, which makes it even more menacing. Yeah.Track 3:[26:46] Yeah. So there's this menacing song, and right after it, there's Cut Your Hair, which is very fun. The exact opposite. The exact opposite.Track 3:[26:55] But menacing, you know, my attitude to music is embodied in a poem that I really love. It was written by a jazz musician who's very old, but he's still alive, I think. His name is Oliver Lake, a jazz saxophone player. And he wrote a poem. And in the poem, he mentions names of many musical artists that he loves. and they're very different artists.Track 3:[27:26] And he's like, and the poem is built like a conversation between himself and the waiter in the restaurant. And then he says, put all the meals in one, put all my meals in one plate. Don't ask me what kind of music I play. I play the good kind. So I like, I actually, I don't care very much about the genres of music and I don't care very much about the mood of a particular song. Like some songs are happy and some songs are sad and some songs are scary like these are all important things but uh eventually i i i judge all songs by like this is the good song or is it not a very good song and uh this song is is of the good kind uh yeah that's that's the really important thing like it like it definitely has a mood uh definitely has a very identifiable probably intentional mood and it's probably placed intentionally in that sequence uh on the album but it definitely has this character.Track 3:[28:25] So this is going to be I think I know the answer to this because.Track 3:[28:31] You've already told me what you rated it on your list but do you think this song is properly rated overrated underrated on the top 50 28 is lowish, I would be very unpleasantly surprised if it was not in the top 50 at all um i like i would probably rate it a bit higher uh maybe it's not my number one song but it's like it's pretty like it's pretty high it's pretty high on my list it's a great song it is absolutely there's nothing to shake a stick at unless it's a complimentary uh stick shaking your dick fun fun fact about uh the tennis part uh the so the song is like you mentioned it uh You mentioned that you read it from those notes that Malthus had in his own songs. And he mentioned tennis himself, so we have it from himself.Track 3:[29:28] I checked it. So I edit Wikipedia quite often in English and in Hebrew and occasionally in other languages. And I checked what is actually Malthus' relation to tennis.Track 3:[29:41] And the English Wikipedia mentions that he loves playing golf and tennis, but he doesn't, Here's where it gets funny. So Wikipedia editors, good, serious Wikipedia editors, try to fact-check everything. And the fact-check in Wikipedia is done by adding footnotes. You may have noticed that Wikipedia has lots of footnotes. So I checked the footnotes. So where it mentions that he plays golf and tennis, it had two footnotes. Both of them were not very good. One of them was a completely dead link. the other one didn't say anything about any sports so I found another source like it's actually a tennis website where he speaks about actually loving tennis so yeah so there's another confirmation that he loves tennis that other tennis website mentioned the song yeah so I improved the English Wikipedia article about Mr. Stephen Maltmes and now it has a better footnote for the tennis information, So, yeah, that's a kind of thing I do for fun. Cool.Track 3:[30:50] Well, it's been really great talking to you today. I'm curious if you have anything that you want to plug or mention for people to look at on the internet or anything that you've created, anything like that. Well not much I'm kind of I'm trying I'm trying to I moved I lived in Israel for many years and I moved to Providence a few months ago my wife is doing an academic project here so we all moved together with the kids.Track 3:[31:21] But I love as I mentioned I love Israeli music I'm, there's not much to plug I'm trying to start a band that would play covers of Israeli songs which is challenging in the united states i it's i'm slowly finding some people to do that but there's not much to say about this right now uh but uh you know you can you can find in the future there might be a band that we can look for hopefully and uh then i would maybe um i would i would probably i would probably mostly play uh covers of israeli music or maybe in the loop on that amir maybe an occasional pavement song what's that keep me in the loop on that shoot me an email when you get it going and I'll talk about it on the pod. I haven't tried that. Maybe an occasional pavement song. Yeah, that would be cool. Well, like I say, it's been a blast spending this time with you today. I really appreciate you doing this heavy lifting on a podcast that is ostensibly yours.Track 3:[32:21] So, thank you very much for that and make sure to wash your goddamn hands.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/meeting-malkmus-a-pavement-podcast/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

If properties are empty from population decline, they'll lose value and rent. If this happens, then what's the timeline? Richard Vague, the PA Governor-appointed Secretary of Banking and Securities from 2020-2023, joins us.  US and world birth rates keep declining. As population declines, per capita GDP often increases. Richard believes that inequality will widen. Most models show the US population increasing for several decades. A median model is 342M today up to 383M in 2054. Opposite of what the Fed thinks, Richard believes that lower interest rates can quell today's persistent inflation. The US has had 9 instances of high inflation. It's often spurred by wars, which create shortages. I tell Richard about GRE's Inflation Triple Crown and ask his opinion. Real estate values rise as debt-to-GDP rises. I point-blank ask Richard if an economic crisis is imminent. Resources mentioned: Follow Richard Vague: Join.TychosGroup.org For access to properties or free help with a GRE Investment Coach, start here: GREmarketplace.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE  or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments.  You get paid first: Text FAMILY to 66866 For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search “how to leave an Apple Podcasts review”  Top Properties & Providers: GREmarketplace.com GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREmarketplace.com/Coach Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— text ‘GRE' to 66866 Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Keith's personal Instagram: @keithweinhold   Complete episode transcript:   Keith Weinhold (00:00:01) - Welcome to GRE! I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. The phenomenon of population decline is spreading throughout the world. Will that come to the US and obliterate real estate then? A bit of a debate on the affliction of inflation and what this all means to real estate today on get rich education. When you want the best real estate and finance info. The modern internet experience limits your free articles access, and it's replete with paywalls. And you've got pop ups and push notifications and cookies. Disclaimers are. At no other time in history has it been more vital to place nice, clean, free content into your hands that actually adds no hype value to your life? See, this is the golden age of quality newsletters, and I write every word of ours myself. It's got a dash of humor and it's to the point to get the letter. It couldn't be more simple. Text GRE to 66866. And when you start the free newsletter, you'll also get my one hour fast real estate course completely free. It's called the Don't Quit Your Day dream letter and it wires your mind for wealth.   Keith Weinhold (00:01:18) - Make sure you read it. Text GRE to 66866. Text GRE to 66866.   Corey Coates (00:01:30) - You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is get rich education.   Keith Weinhold (00:01:46) - We're going to drive from Lake Winnebago, Wisconsin to Mono Lake, California, and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinhold, and you're listening to get Rich education. Real estate is obviously a strong, proven store of value. Now, what's interesting is that most economists agree that money should be three things a medium of exchange, a unit of account, and a store of value. Well, please don't take offense here. This can sound a little crude, but there's one thing to call those that use dollars as a store of value, and that is poor. How is a dollar a store of value when you've had 20% plus cumulative inflation over the last three years alone, the dollar is a poor store of value. We're going to get into inflation with our other esteemed guest and gubernatorial appointee today. He has some opinions on inflation, and you may very well feel that I poke him on this topic today.   Keith Weinhold (00:02:58) - I'll also get his input on our inflation Triple Crown concept, where real estate helps you win with inflation three ways at the same time. But first, he and I are going to discuss the specter of population decline. And well, it's not always a specter to people because some feel that the world is better off with fewer people, environmentalists and others. Japan's native born population is falling at a rate of almost 100 people per hour. Yeah, you heard that right. Well, is that coming to the United States and how bad would that be for real estate? 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Education is ranked in the top one half of 1% of listened to podcasts globally, per lesson notes on air every single week since 2014. Some say that we were the first show to finally, clearly explain how real estate makes ordinary people wealthy. For advertising information and inquiries, visit get Rich education.com/ad let's get rich education compered. Today it's the return of a terrific guest. This week's guest was with us last year. He's an economic futurist, keynote speaker, and popular author. He's the former secretary of banking and securities for the Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Today, he runs a group that predicts financial crises called Tycho's.   Keith Weinhold (00:05:40) - That's really interesting. Joining us from Philadelphia today. Hey, it's great to welcome back Richard Vague.   Richard Vague (00:05:47) - Thank you so much for having me. It's real privilege.   Keith Weinhold (00:05:50) - Vague is spelled vague u e just like it sounds. If you're listening in the audio only. Richard also has a YouTube channel where, among other things, he discusses topics like population decline and inflation. Two things that we'll get into today. But before that, Richard, how exactly do you get tapped by the governor of Pennsylvania to have been appointed his banking secretary? Anyway? How does that really happen?   Richard Vague (00:06:16) - Well, I served under Governor Thomas Wolf, a superb governor here at Pennsylvania. We kind of were both very familiar with each other, and I had already written a number of books on banking crises, including The Next Economic Disaster and A Brief History of Doom. And he had read those, and so much to my surprise, he showed up in my office one day and asked me if I'd consider it.   Keith Weinhold (00:06:40) - Wow, that is really cool.   Keith Weinhold (00:06:42) - All right. You kind of led with your writing in your books for making that happen. Richard, here's a big question that I have for you. At 8.1 billion people today is Earth's overpopulated or underpopulated?   Richard Vague (00:06:58) - Well, there's a lot of very valid points on both sides of that. You know, there are a number of folks who decry the level of population we have because of its destructive impact on the environment. And there's a lot of folks that note that it's population growth that really has made our economic growth so vibrant. So there's a real contention on that issue. We tend not to take a position, but what we do know is as world population growth is slowing, which it clearly is, that is going to make economic growth much more challenging in a whole lot of places around the world, some of which you're actually starting to see population declines, like China.   Keith Weinhold (00:07:46) - I want to get to that slowing growth in a moment. We talk about overpopulation versus under population. Some in the overpopulation camp thinking the world has too many people they're referred to as Malthusian, was named for Thomas Malthus, who in 1798 he said the world would exceed its agricultural carrying capacity and there was going to be mass starvation.   Keith Weinhold (00:08:09) - Malthus was wrong. He didn't consider technological advancements. So I guess my point is the future can be really difficult to predict.   Richard Vague (00:08:18) - Yeah. Without question. You know, the big innovation came in the early 1900s when we figured out how to synthetically manufacture of things like fertilizer, which allowed arable land area to increase dramatically. It kind of took them out of this equation off the table.   Keith Weinhold (00:08:36) - Yes. With the mechanization of harvesting and the engineering of foods, there sure have been a lot of advancements there to help feed more people. And yeah, Richard, you talk about population decline. Of course, the world population overall is still growing, but its rate of growth is declining. So before we talk about the United States, you mentioned China. Why don't we discuss population decline more in global terms, where even nations like India are already struggling to exceed the replacement birth rate of 2.1?   Richard Vague (00:09:10) - Yeah, I mean, it's a phenomenon that, you know, we haven't faced or perhaps even thought of for a couple hundred years because population growth accelerated so dramatically with the Industrial Revolution.   Richard Vague (00:09:22) - We've really not known anything but rapid growth. And frankly, it's easier to grow businesses. And the economy is old. But now we're seeing places like China, Japan, Germany that are facing population declines in places like India, which, as you said, is comparatively a younger country. Nevertheless, facing this prospect as well, then in 1980, the average age in the US was 30. Today it's 38. In Germany I believe it's 48. So the world is getting old in a way that it had not previously in the industrial revolutionary period.   Keith Weinhold (00:10:03) - I think a lot of people are aware that many parts of Europe, Japan, South Korea are in population decline or they're set up for population decline. But yes, some of these other nations that we think of as newer nations or growing nations, including India, are not forecast to. Grow in, Richard. Are we really down? Of course. There are a number of outliers. Are we down mostly to Africa that still have the high birth rates?   Richard Vague (00:10:29) - As the world has become more urban, the need for more kids has declined.   Richard Vague (00:10:35) - It's in an urban environment, become an expense rather than a benefit. So that alone accounts for the deceleration. And then you have folks that are getting married later, having kids later, and you simply can't have as many kids when those two things are true. So it's a combination of events, and there aren't that many places left that have higher birth rates. And even in Africa it's declining or decelerating. So the world's just moving in that direction.   Keith Weinhold (00:11:06) - Yeah. It's really once we see the urbanization trend in a nation, what lags behind that are slowing birth rates, oftentimes birth rates that don't even meet death rates in some places. It kind of goes back to the Thomas Malthus thing again, if you will. When you don't have a family farm, you don't need nine kids to milk the cows and shuck the corn and everything else like that. You might live in a smaller urban apartment.   Richard Vague (00:11:33) - But we're all just has it been thinking about this issue? And it's upon us now, and it's going to change everything from governments to handling debts to infrastructure to growth itself.   Richard Vague (00:11:48) - So we need to start thinking about this issue much more deeply than we have.   Keith Weinhold (00:11:54) - Is there any way that an economy can grow with a declining population, and how bad will it get?   Richard Vague (00:12:02) - An economy will obviously struggle to grow if the population is declining, but the per capita GDP and increase as population declines. And in fact, we might see that early on in a population decline situation. I think that's actually been true in Japan over the last few years. The population is down, but GDP per capita is actually increasing slightly. So I think it's longer term. When you talk about trying to service the debt that we have amassed with the smaller population, that we're really going to have issues.   Keith Weinhold (00:12:41) - Talk to us more about that. The servicing the debt part of a declining population.   Richard Vague (00:12:48) - The debt doesn't shrink on its own, you know, so it tends to grow because, you know, it's accruing interest.   Keith Weinhold (00:12:54) - It always seems to go one direction.   Richard Vague (00:12:56) - It always pretty much only goes in one direction. So it's pretty simple.   Richard Vague (00:13:00) - If you have growing debt and I'm talking about public debt and private debt, and you have a declining base to service that, you have more people in retirement who are not paying as much in the way of taxes. It's going to increase the challenge, and it may in fact, increase it considerably. As we look at a few decades.   Keith Weinhold (00:13:21) - We need productivity to pay down debt that's more difficult to do in the declining population. We talk about technological advancements, some things that we cannot foresee. Did you sort of lead on to the fact that some of this might help us be more productive, even in a declining population, whether that's machine learning or robotics or AI? What are your thoughts there?   Richard Vague (00:13:45) - That's something that's been predicted for quite some time. You know, if we look back not too far ago, economists were wondering what we were going to do with all of our free time, right? Because, you know, automate. And this goes back to the 20s and 30s and 40s what we do with all our free time.   Richard Vague (00:14:01) - So we again have conversations along those lines. You know, it's not inconceivable that we could all be sitting there, you know, sipping our Mai tais, and the machines could be doing all the work for us. And servicing debt might be easy in that scenario, I doubt it. I don't think that's what's going to happen.   Keith Weinhold (00:14:19) - The more technology advances, the more complex society gets. That continues to create jobs in places where we cannot see them. I mean, case in point here, in the year 2024, we're more technologically advanced than we've ever been in human history, obviously. Yet here in the United States, we have more open jobs than we even do people to fill them.   Richard Vague (00:14:39) - Yeah. And I think one of the things that all of this does is increase the march of inequality. You have folks that master the technology become engineers, software engineers and the like that are going to be the huge beneficiaries of these trends. But folks that don't have the skill sets aren't going to benefit from these trends.   Richard Vague (00:15:01) - And even though in aggregate, we may continue to see per capita GDP increase, our track record over the last few decades would suggest that inequality will increase just as markedly as it has in the past, so we'll have some societal issues to face.   Keith Weinhold (00:15:19) - That's concerning as inflation. Continues to exacerbate inequality simultaneously, which we'll talk about later. But population decline is of concern to us as real estate investors because of course, we need rent paying tenants. So this could be pretty concerning to some. You've probably seen a lot of the same models that I have, Richard, let me know. In the United States, population is projected to increase for several decades by every single model that I've seen, maybe even until or after the year 2100.   Richard Vague (00:15:53) - The projection is by 2050, we'll have about 380 something million people, and today we're at 330 million people. So clearly the population is going to continue. It's just kind of the relative portion of those populations. And what I think we're seeing, and you as real estate investors would know this better than I, is a shift towards the type of real estate out there.   Richard Vague (00:16:19) - Right? So instead of new homeowner development, it's retirement development that I think is going to be the higher growth sector with the real estate industry.   Keith Weinhold (00:16:31) - And we're surely going to see fewer offices be built, something that may never come back. And then when we talk about things like birth rates and population growth rates here in the real estate world, I sort of think of there as being a lag effect. It's really not so much about today's births in the United States, because people often rent their first place in their 20s, and then the average age of a first time homebuyer is an all time record high 36. And all those people are going to need housing into old age as well. So to me, it's sort of about, oh, well, how many people were born from the 1940s to the 1990s?   Richard Vague (00:17:10) - Well, there's a very useful tool that's pretty easily available called the Population Pyramid. You can find that on the CIA World Factbook site for every country and including the United States. And it shows exactly what you're talking about, which is the number of folks, you know, between 0 and 10 years old and into 20 years old and so forth.   Richard Vague (00:17:32) - So you can kind of make reasonable projections about the near term based on the data that the CIA World Factbook is kind enough for by I believe the UN has this data as well, so you can make informed judgments about the very thing you're talking about here, which is how many folks are in their 20s to over the next ten years versus the last ten years.   Keith Weinhold (00:17:54) - Yeah, that's reassuring to real estate investors to know that we expect several decades of population growth in the United States. However, it may be slowing growth. So we talked about births, I mentioned deaths. Well, you tell us a bit more about immigration, something else that can be very difficult to project here in the real estate world that we have a popular analyst called John Byrne's research and Consulting. Their data shows that we had 3.8 million Americans added to our population last year, much of it through immigration. That's a jump of more than 1%, an all time record in our 248 year history in one year alone. So can you tell us, at least in the United States, a bit more about immigration in the calculus for population projections? Richard.   Richard Vague (00:18:42) - Immigration is a huge factor in the demographics of every country in the US, from a pure population growth standpoint as benefited by in-migration, including illegal and migration. That is a positive comparison versus a lot of countries that are either more restrictive art is desirable destinations for immigration and the life. So it has benefited us from a pure population standpoint. But what we clearly see is there are cultural ramifications that are difficult for us to deal with. We have the percent of folks that are in the United States that were born in another country. It's the highest it's been, I think, at least in a century or more and perhaps ever, that is really difficult for the general population to absorb. We see this in the headlines every day. We see it the concern, we see it in the political rhetoric. It's a real issue. So you have a very real conflict between the economic benefits of immigration versus the cultural divisions that that immigration creates. And that's not going to be easy to digest or to resolve. I think we probably end up continuing to compromise, but it continues to be a political lightning rod right into the foreseeable future.   Keith Weinhold (00:20:14) - And there are so many factors here. Where's our future immigrant diaspora? Is it in places in Latin America like Guatemala? In Honduras, in Colombia. 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Listen to get Rich education with Keith Reinhold and don't quit your day dream.   Keith Weinhold (00:22:49) - Welcome back to get Rich. So we're talking with economic futurist, author and Pennsylvania's former secretary of banking and securities. His name is Richard Vague. And Richard, before the break we talked about how many more people are there going to be on this earth.   Keith Weinhold (00:23:03) - We know for sure that there's also the growth of the number of dollars in this nation. So we're talking about inflation here. You talk an awful lot about the affliction of inflation and the history of inflation. And I think a lot of people when we talk about the history of inflation, maybe we should begin chronologically. They don't realize that inflation wasn't always with us. Since the birth of this nation.   Richard Vague (00:23:30) - We haven't had that many episodes of inflation. We look at it pretty hard. We see nine what we would consider nine instances of high inflation. Most of those have come with war. So we certainly had that. The Revolutionary War right of 1812 and the Civil War and World War one and World War two. But inflation has been brief, contained and rare in the history of Western developed nations. We had our bout in the 1970s that related to OPEC and the constraint of the oil supply. It normally relates to the decimation or constraint of the supplies and the supply chain. We saw it again with Covid.   Richard Vague (00:24:17) - A lot of folks consider it to be a monetary phenomenon. We just don't see that in the data.   Keith Weinhold (00:24:24) - So we talk about what causes these bouts of inflation. You talked about nine of them. Well, he talked to us more about why wars often create inflation. Of course we're trying to create a lot of supplies during wars, but they tend to be only certain types of supplies.   Richard Vague (00:24:40) - World War One is a great example. Probably, you know, two thirds of the farms in Europe were decimated. So for a couple of years, there simply weren't the kind of crops that are needed for nutrition being grown in Europe, we Corps and the like. So the US had to, frankly, export something on the order of 20% of its crops to Europe to prevent starvation. Well, it's pretty easy to see that if the US if the supply has been decimated in Europe, we're having to ship, you know, a huge chunk of our crops to Europe, that the price of wheat and corn would go up.   Richard Vague (00:25:21) - And that's exactly what happened. It's also pretty easy to see that as those farms came back on stream and began growing crops, that the price of wheat and corn would drop. And that's exactly what happened. So you have this relatively short lived period of 2 or 3 years where the decimation of supplies caused inflation, and that's fairly typical.   Keith Weinhold (00:25:45) - Supply falls, demand exceeds supply and prices rise much like what happened with those Covid shortages, as you mentioned, what are the other major causes of inflation other than supply shortages that have caused these nine bouts of inflation?   Richard Vague (00:26:03) - Well, let's talk about major developed countries, which I would include Western Europe, the United States predominantly. That's pretty much the only thing that has brought sustained high inflation is supply constraint. We don't see instances of high government debt growth or money supply growth ever causing inflation. Now when you get to smaller countries where they are borrowing in a foreign currency, where they have a trade deficit and where they yield to the temptation of printing too much money, and I don't mean by printing, we use that term in the United States, and it's absolutely a fictitious term.   Richard Vague (00:26:50) - We don't print money in the United States. We have it printed money since the Civil War. So in a third world country, they can actually go to a printing press and start paying with cash for government supply needs. And you can see it very clearly when it happens and it very quickly leads to high inflation. You know, this is in places like Argentina and the like. So that would be the big issue in these countries. It's they borrow at a foreign currency. They have a trade deficit. They yield to the temptation of actually printing currency. It can get out of control pretty fast.   Keith Weinhold (00:27:26) - It feels immoral. As soon as more currency is printed, it dilutes the purchasing power surreptitiously of all those people that are holding that currency. What about Richard? The government printing. And we can put printing in quote marks, say, $1 trillion to fund a new infrastructure program. A technically that is inflation if we. Go back to the root definition of inflation, inflation being an expansion of the money supply.   Keith Weinhold (00:27:54) - But talk to us about how something like that does or does not dilute the purchasing power to fund, for example, a big infrastructure program.   Richard Vague (00:28:03) - Well, it just never happens in Western developed economies. And one of the reasons it doesn't happen is the government issuance of debt does not increase the money supply by a nickel. If the government issues debt, it actually withdraws or shrinks the money supply because folks like you and me would buy the government security that reduces the number of deposits in the system. The government immediately turns around and spends exactly that amount. So the size of the money supply from government debt projects remains exactly the same. It doesn't increase.   Keith Weinhold (00:28:42) - Does that act, however, increase our total absolute amount of national debt, which is currently $35 trillion?   Richard Vague (00:28:51) - Of course it does. Absolutely. But the increase in our debt is money largely played to the households. So what normally happens is when the government's dead increases, household wealth increases by that amount or a greater amount. So take the pandemic. In a three year period, government debt increased by $8 trillion, which means its net worth declined by $1 trillion.   Richard Vague (00:29:18) - Well, households were the beneficiaries of that household net worth in that three year period increased by $30 trillion. So, you know, net net, of course it increases their debt, but it dollar for dollar typically increases household wealth.   Keith Weinhold (00:29:33) - That wealth effect can feel great for consumers and families in the short term. But doesn't increasing their income substantially in a short period of time drive up prices and create this debase purchasing power of the dollar?   Richard Vague (00:29:46) - If we got our little green eyed shades out and went to try to find examples of that, we got a database of 49 countries that constituted 91% of the world's GDP. We just wouldn't find examples of that. And in the US, it's very easy to measure that. The number you're looking for is GDP. And we don't really see big cuts in GDP. You know, a wild swing in GDP would be 3.5% versus 2.5%. That's not a factor in any observable way. And what happens in inflation.   Keith Weinhold (00:30:19) - Richard, the term that I think about with what's happened the past few years in this Covid wave of inflation is the word noticeable.   Keith Weinhold (00:30:27) - People don't really talk about it. Consumers, families, they don't talk about inflation much when it's near its fed 2% target until it becomes noticeable. And now it's so obvious with what you see at the grocery store. So it's really infiltrated the American psyche in a way that it didn't five years ago.   Richard Vague (00:30:45) - Inflation, even moderate inflation, is a highly consequential thing to the average American consumer. And two things happened to increase our inflation. Covid supply chains decimated supplies and kicked up prices. And then a second thing happened that was even more consequential. And that is Russia invaded Ukraine. And you had two countries that were, if you add them together among the largest providers or suppliers of oil and wheat, and almost instantly the price of oil and wheat and other goods skyrocketed. It was those two things, Covid, plus the invasion of Ukraine that drove our inflation up to 9% in June of 2022. Now, in July, it dropped to 3% and it stayed at 3% ever since. But we had already driven prices up in the prior year or two.   Richard Vague (00:31:49) - And those prices even though the increases have moderated, those prices haven't come down right.   Keith Weinhold (00:31:55) - Nor will.   Richard Vague (00:31:55) - They. Now we have, you know, the threat of war again. So, you know, the price of oil just touch $90. Again, I would argue that, you know, it's going to be hard to see inflation come down. Much for like that 3 to 4 range because of the geopolitical situation. And one other thing that I would suggest is holding up inflation. And that's the Federal Reserve's interest rate. You know, if inflation is a measure of how expensive things are, high interest rates make things more expensive, right?   Keith Weinhold (00:32:27) - It's an irony.   Richard Vague (00:32:28) - It's almost exactly the opposite of what the orthodoxy at the Federal Reserve studies or believed. For whatever reason, if you're at an in an apartment in the apartment owner has leveraged their purchase of the apartments by 50 or 70 or 90% and their interest bill goes up, guess what? They have to. Charge you higher rate. I think some meaningful component of the stubbornness of inflation relates directly to the Federal Reserve's persistent interest rates.   Richard Vague (00:33:00) - I think the best thing they could do would be to pull interest rates down 1 or 200 basis points.   Keith Weinhold (00:33:07) - Well, that's interesting because the fed funds rate is pretty close to their long term average, and we still got inflation higher than their target. So tell us more about what you think is the best way out of this somewhat higher inflationary environment that we're still in Richard.   Richard Vague (00:33:22) - Well two things. I think the geopolitical impact on oil prices is you. And I think the interest rate impact, particularly on real estate prices, is huge. Those are the two things holding up inflation. So if you wanted to improve inflation, you'd lower interest rates and then you'd run around the world trying to calm down these hot spots. And you'd have 2% inflation.   Keith Weinhold (00:33:47) - Coming from some people's point of view, including the Fed's. If you lower interest rates you would feel inflationary pressures. So then go ahead and debunk this because the conventional wisdom is when you lower interest rates. Oh well now for consumers, you don't incentivize them to save as much because they wouldn't be earning much interest.   Keith Weinhold (00:34:06) - And if rates to borrow become lower, then you're incentivizing more people to borrow and spend and run up prices in fuel the economy. So what's wrong with that model?   Richard Vague (00:34:16) - Well, there's no empirical support for it. In 1986, when inflation dropped to 2%, interest rates were in the highest interest rates had been coming down by, you know, almost a thousand basis points over the prior 3 or 4 years. Money supply growth was 9%. So the two things the fed says are most the biggest contributors to rising inflation were both amply present when inflation dropped to 2%. So I just can't find any data to support the Fed's theory. And by the way, that data is not esoteric. That data is really readily available. You and I can go look at it. It's not a complicated equation. But over the last 40 years, in what at the age I call the great debt explosion, aggregate debt and the economy in 1981 was 125% of GDP. Today it's 260% of GDP and almost that entire 40 something year span.   Richard Vague (00:35:21) - Inflation and interest rates went down. Somebody, somewhere is going to have to show me the evidence for me to believe what the fed is canonical, which is almost a sacred balloon.   Keith Weinhold (00:35:33) - Well, that's a good look at history. In fact, something I say on the show often is let's look at history. And what really happens over having a hunch on how we think that things should proceed. You mentioned some inflation figures there. Why don't we wrap up inflation? Richard was talking about today's inflation measures. We've got the producer price index, the PPI, the widely cited CPI, which I recognize what you were stating earlier. And then of course there's the Fed's preferred measure, the core PCE, the core personal consumption expenditures. Richard, it's also funny to me when any measure is called core, it's core when they remove the food and energy inputs because those things are said to be too volatile. And of course, not only is food and energy essential, but what's more core than that? So perhaps the core rate should be called the peripheral rate.   Keith Weinhold (00:36:22) - But in any case, do you have any comments on the measures of inflation that are used today?   Richard Vague (00:36:28) - It's like you say, it's everything you just mentioned and more, because they're not just core inflation. There's something called super core, which I think is probably even more peripheral. Right. And I like your terminology better than the Fed's, but there's a lot of things to look at right now. They're all kind of coalescing around this at a low to mid 3% range. We got a new number coming out. It'll probably, you know here in the next few days. And it'll probably be a little bit higher than the last number, but we're talking about the difference to a 3.3% and 3.5%. And to me there's no difference between those two numbers. We were at 9%, as we just said, in June of 2022. And we're at a moderate level of inflation now after having suffered a rise in prices. It's not going to disappear. It's not fun, it's not comfortable, but it's moderate rabble.   Richard Vague (00:37:22) - It's not a big drought.   Keith Weinhold (00:37:24) - What's the right level of inflation in your opinion?   Richard Vague (00:37:28) - Okay. Anything fundamentally wrong with the the 2% number that the fed saw I think, you know, at 3 to 4% were probably on the high end of, of what might be considered acceptable. But again, it's not the fact that it's 3% that's the problem. It's the fact that it was 6 to 9% for a couple of years. Yeah, that's the problem. It'll get take a while for everything to adjust to that. In the meantime, you know, with all bets are all that you know, there's if these wars get further out of control and we see 90, $200 oil prices again, we're only about we're 50% more efficient users of oil today than were were in the 1970s. We're still a little bit over dependent.   Keith Weinhold (00:38:11) - Here at gray. I espouse how in everyday investor they can do more than merely hedge themselves against inflation, much like a homeowner with no mortgage would merely hedge themselves. But you can actually profit from inflation with a term that I've trademarked as the Inflation Triple Crown.   Keith Weinhold (00:38:27) - I'd like to know what you think about it. The inflation Triple Crown means that you win with inflation three ways at the same time, and all that you need to do in order to make that happen is get a fixed rate mortgage on an income property. The asset price increase is the inflation hedge. The debt debasement on your mortgage loan, that's an inflation profiting center. Is inflation debases that down while the tenant makes the payment. And then thirdly, now rents might only track inflation, but your cash flow is actually a profit center over time too because it outpaces inflation. Since as the investor your biggest monthly expense that principal and interest stays fixed and inflation cannot touch that. That's the inflation triple Crown. It's available to almost anyone. You don't need any degree, your certification or real estate license. What are your thoughts on that? Profiting from inflation the way we do here I think you're absolutely correct.   Richard Vague (00:39:22) - And I think you put it very, very well. And that's not just a trend at the individual property level.   Richard Vague (00:39:28) - We studied macroeconomics and we look at aggregate real estate values. And frankly, real estate values rise as debt to GDP rises. The more money there is, the more my dollars are chasing real estate and the higher real estate prices will go. So it's absolutely been the gin to put it into numbers in 1980 household. Well, this a percent of GDP was about 350%. Today it's almost 600% most household wealth that in the form of just two things real estate and stocks in somewhat equal measure, that's 80 or 90% of also. Well, so if you wanted to make money over the last 40 years and presumably over the next 40 real estate, one of the two places you could go.   Keith Weinhold (00:40:24) - Well, Richard, as we wind down here, you run a group that predicts financial crises. So I'd be remiss to let you go without asking you about it. We've had a prolonged inverted yield curve, and that's been a terrific track record as a recession predictor. Is a financial crisis imminent? Tell us your thoughts.   Richard Vague (00:40:41) - No, it's not. The predictor of financial crises is a rapid rise in private sector debt in ratio to GDP. We saw it skyrocket in the mid 2000 and we got a crisis in zero eight. We saw it skyrocket in the 1980s and we got the crisis in 87. We saw it skyrocket in Japan in the late 1980s. And you got the crisis of the 90s. We saw it skyrocketed in the 1920s and we got the Great Depression. That is the predictor. You know, we've studied that across major economies over 200 years. There really are exceptions to that as it relates to financial crises. Our numbers right now on the private debt side have been very flat, and they've really been very flat since 2008. They actually got a little bit better in that period, and they've been very flat over the last few years. We're not looking at a financial crisis in the United States. Other parts can't say that China is looking at a they're well into a massive real estate crisis there. We see companies there crumbling, declaring bankruptcy.   Richard Vague (00:41:53) - That's because they've had runaway private sector debt in China for the last ten years. And there's a few other countries that are facing that as well.   Keith Weinhold (00:42:02) - A lot of Chinese overbuilding there during that run up to, well, if you, the follower, are into using history over hunches to help you predict the future, Richard Baig really is a terrific resource for that, as you can tell. So, Richard, why don't you let our audience know how they can follow you and learn more?   Richard Vague (00:42:22) - You're so kind to say those words. We hope we provide something of value. You can get our weekly video if you go to join Dot Tycho's group.org and Tycho's is spelled E, ICOs, ICOs group. Or we send out a weekly five minute video because if you're like me, you have a short attention span and brevity is the soul of wit. I also have a book that came out recently called The Paradox of Debt. Yeah. Which, you know, covers a lot of the themes we've talked about here. You know, it'd be an honor to have anyone to pick up either.   Keith Weinhold (00:42:58) - Well, Richard, it's been a terrific discussion on both population decline and inflation. It's been great having you back on the show.   Richard Vague (00:43:05) - You have a great show. It's a privilege to be part of it. Thank you very much.   Keith Weinhold (00:43:15) - Yeah, big thanks to Richard Vague. Today he hits things from a different angle. With population decline perhaps not taking place in the US until the year 2100. Of course, we need to add years to that. Real estate investors might not have falling population growth in that crucial household formation demographic age. Then until the year 2125, well, that would be 100 more years of growth from this point. And yeah, I pushed him on our inflation chart somewhat. Richard isn't the first person, though I have heard others maintain that lower interest rates also lower inflation, where most tend to believe that the opposite is true, including the fed. In any case, wars drive inflation because they create supply shortages. That was true over 100 years ago when World War one and today with Russia, Ukraine.   Keith Weinhold (00:44:17) - I mean, is there any one factor that drives price increases more than supply shortages? The short supply of real estate itself is what keeps driving prices. And Richard asks us to look where some don't. That is that real estate values rise as debt to GDP rises. In his opinion, there is no financial crisis imminent. We need to see a rapid rise in private sector debt in proportion to GDP first. And you know what's remarkable about this economic slowdown or recession that still hasn't come, but it's been erroneously predicted by so many. It's the fact that recessions are often self-fulfilling prophecies. People have called on a recession for the last year or two. And that mere forecast alone that tends to make real estate investors think, well, then I won't buy the property because my tenant might lose their job in a recession. And businesses don't hire when everyone says a recession is coming. That's exactly how a recession becomes self-fulfilling. And despite two years of that, it still hasn't happened. That's what's remarkable. Anyone sitting on the sideline keeps losing out again.   Keith Weinhold (00:45:37) - You can follow Richard. Big Tycho's is spelled Tycho's. Follow a joint Tycho's group.org. Richard and I talked some more outside of our interview here, and he had a lot of compliments about the show. In fact, more compliments than any guest has given in a while. He had not heard of our show before last year. I'm in Philadelphia somewhat regularly and I might hit him up the next time I'm there. We'll get lunch or something. Check out Gray in Spanish at Get Rich education comma. Espanyol. Thank you for tuning in today where our episode was Bigger Picture education. Next week's show will be substantially more hands on real estate. I'm Keith Wayne a little bit. Don't quit your day dream.   Speaker 5 (00:46:24) - Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of get Rich education LLC exclusively.   Keith Weinhold (00:46:52) - The preceding program was brought to you by your home for wealth building. Get rich education.com.

The stereotype of the solitary mathematician is widespread, but practicing users and producers of mathematics know well that our work depends heavily on our historical and contemporary fellow travelers. Yet we may not appreciate how our work also extends beyond us into our physical and societal environments. Kevin Lambert takes what might be a first crack at this perspective in his book Symbols and Things: Material Mathematics in the Eighteenth and Nineteenth Centuries (University of Pittsburgh Press, 2021). An historian of science, Dr. Lambert has shifted in his view of mathematics as a language of science to one as a material practice. Expanding on ideas from historians, archeologists, philosophers, and other scholars of human activity, and through several interweaving vignettes of mathematical work during a technologically dynamic period in British history, he argues that mathematical practice, communication, and even thought occur to a large degree outside the bodies of the persons performing them. In this interview, we explore Kevin's journal to and through this book project. We discuss how such ideas as Andy Clark's extended mind informed his approach, and we review several of the lively stories—the co-creation of the long-distance mathematical community with the research journal, Peacock's museological argument for the adoption of symbolic algebra, and the foundational entanglement of electromagnetism, quaternions, and the philosophy of space, among others—he drew out of historical and archival sources. (Here i cannot resist mentioning Tait's collection of his intensive correspondence with Hamilton that transformed how quaternions were applied in physics and even conceptualized as mathematical objects.) We close with some thoughts on our own materially extended cognitive work and where Kevin's interests are currently driving him. Suggested companion works: • ChatGPT, as a cutting-edge extension of human thought • work by Courtney Ann Roby, including the forthcoming The Mechanical Tradition of Hero of Alexandria: Strategies of Reading from Antiquity to the Early Modern Period • Algorithmic Modernity: Mechanizing Thought and Action, 1500-2000, edited by Morgan G. Ames and Massimo Mazzotti • work by Emily Miller Bonney, for example "A Reconsideration of Depositional Practices in Early Bronze Age Crete" Kevin Lambert is a historian of science and mathematics in the early modern and modern periods and professor in the liberal studies department at California State University, Fullerton. His recent book Symbols and Things explores mathematics as a way of thinking outside the body and through the material environment. He also recently published a chapter in the volume Algorithmic Modernity that traces the genealogy of algorithmic practices. He is now working on the problem of writing longue durée histories of science. He is close to completing a paper called “Malthus in the Landscape” that investigates the temporalities of global histories. He is also exploring the problem of writing a global history of the early modern sciences without the prism of the so called “Scientific Revolution.” His work can be found on ResearchGate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

The stereotype of the solitary mathematician is widespread, but practicing users and producers of mathematics know well that our work depends heavily on our historical and contemporary fellow travelers. Yet we may not appreciate how our work also extends beyond us into our physical and societal environments. Kevin Lambert takes what might be a first crack at this perspective in his book Symbols and Things: Material Mathematics in the Eighteenth and Nineteenth Centuries (University of Pittsburgh Press, 2021). An historian of science, Dr. Lambert has shifted in his view of mathematics as a language of science to one as a material practice. Expanding on ideas from historians, archeologists, philosophers, and other scholars of human activity, and through several interweaving vignettes of mathematical work during a technologically dynamic period in British history, he argues that mathematical practice, communication, and even thought occur to a large degree outside the bodies of the persons performing them. In this interview, we explore Kevin's journal to and through this book project. We discuss how such ideas as Andy Clark's extended mind informed his approach, and we review several of the lively stories—the co-creation of the long-distance mathematical community with the research journal, Peacock's museological argument for the adoption of symbolic algebra, and the foundational entanglement of electromagnetism, quaternions, and the philosophy of space, among others—he drew out of historical and archival sources. (Here i cannot resist mentioning Tait's collection of his intensive correspondence with Hamilton that transformed how quaternions were applied in physics and even conceptualized as mathematical objects.) We close with some thoughts on our own materially extended cognitive work and where Kevin's interests are currently driving him. Suggested companion works: • ChatGPT, as a cutting-edge extension of human thought • work by Courtney Ann Roby, including the forthcoming The Mechanical Tradition of Hero of Alexandria: Strategies of Reading from Antiquity to the Early Modern Period • Algorithmic Modernity: Mechanizing Thought and Action, 1500-2000, edited by Morgan G. Ames and Massimo Mazzotti • work by Emily Miller Bonney, for example "A Reconsideration of Depositional Practices in Early Bronze Age Crete" Kevin Lambert is a historian of science and mathematics in the early modern and modern periods and professor in the liberal studies department at California State University, Fullerton. His recent book Symbols and Things explores mathematics as a way of thinking outside the body and through the material environment. He also recently published a chapter in the volume Algorithmic Modernity that traces the genealogy of algorithmic practices. He is now working on the problem of writing longue durée histories of science. He is close to completing a paper called “Malthus in the Landscape” that investigates the temporalities of global histories. He is also exploring the problem of writing a global history of the early modern sciences without the prism of the so called “Scientific Revolution.” His work can be found on ResearchGate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/history

The stereotype of the solitary mathematician is widespread, but practicing users and producers of mathematics know well that our work depends heavily on our historical and contemporary fellow travelers. Yet we may not appreciate how our work also extends beyond us into our physical and societal environments. Kevin Lambert takes what might be a first crack at this perspective in his book Symbols and Things: Material Mathematics in the Eighteenth and Nineteenth Centuries (University of Pittsburgh Press, 2021). An historian of science, Dr. Lambert has shifted in his view of mathematics as a language of science to one as a material practice. Expanding on ideas from historians, archeologists, philosophers, and other scholars of human activity, and through several interweaving vignettes of mathematical work during a technologically dynamic period in British history, he argues that mathematical practice, communication, and even thought occur to a large degree outside the bodies of the persons performing them. In this interview, we explore Kevin's journal to and through this book project. We discuss how such ideas as Andy Clark's extended mind informed his approach, and we review several of the lively stories—the co-creation of the long-distance mathematical community with the research journal, Peacock's museological argument for the adoption of symbolic algebra, and the foundational entanglement of electromagnetism, quaternions, and the philosophy of space, among others—he drew out of historical and archival sources. (Here i cannot resist mentioning Tait's collection of his intensive correspondence with Hamilton that transformed how quaternions were applied in physics and even conceptualized as mathematical objects.) We close with some thoughts on our own materially extended cognitive work and where Kevin's interests are currently driving him. Suggested companion works: • ChatGPT, as a cutting-edge extension of human thought • work by Courtney Ann Roby, including the forthcoming The Mechanical Tradition of Hero of Alexandria: Strategies of Reading from Antiquity to the Early Modern Period • Algorithmic Modernity: Mechanizing Thought and Action, 1500-2000, edited by Morgan G. Ames and Massimo Mazzotti • work by Emily Miller Bonney, for example "A Reconsideration of Depositional Practices in Early Bronze Age Crete" Kevin Lambert is a historian of science and mathematics in the early modern and modern periods and professor in the liberal studies department at California State University, Fullerton. His recent book Symbols and Things explores mathematics as a way of thinking outside the body and through the material environment. He also recently published a chapter in the volume Algorithmic Modernity that traces the genealogy of algorithmic practices. He is now working on the problem of writing longue durée histories of science. He is close to completing a paper called “Malthus in the Landscape” that investigates the temporalities of global histories. He is also exploring the problem of writing a global history of the early modern sciences without the prism of the so called “Scientific Revolution.” His work can be found on ResearchGate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/mathematics

An in-depth (kinda) discussion with Gavin, the Man from Down Under, on the Malthusian concept of inevitable world calamity!Thomas Robert Malthus was an influential British economist who is best known for his theory on population growth, outlined in his 1798 book An Essay on the Principle of Population. In it, Malthus argued that populations inevitably expand until they outgrow their available food supply, causing the population growth to be reversed by disease, famine, war, or calamity.Comment, download, and catch up on all episodes at mitchwonders.comAll episodes are also at: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2041434.rssMaybe drop ol' Mitch a wee morsel to support the merch store at Venmo.com? Just search @mitchwonders And thank you all for your love and support!

The stereotype of the solitary mathematician is widespread, but practicing users and producers of mathematics know well that our work depends heavily on our historical and contemporary fellow travelers. Yet we may not appreciate how our work also extends beyond us into our physical and societal environments. Kevin Lambert takes what might be a first crack at this perspective in his book Symbols and Things: Material Mathematics in the Eighteenth and Nineteenth Centuries (University of Pittsburgh Press, 2021). An historian of science, Dr. Lambert has shifted in his view of mathematics as a language of science to one as a material practice. Expanding on ideas from historians, archeologists, philosophers, and other scholars of human activity, and through several interweaving vignettes of mathematical work during a technologically dynamic period in British history, he argues that mathematical practice, communication, and even thought occur to a large degree outside the bodies of the persons performing them. In this interview, we explore Kevin's journal to and through this book project. We discuss how such ideas as Andy Clark's extended mind informed his approach, and we review several of the lively stories—the co-creation of the long-distance mathematical community with the research journal, Peacock's museological argument for the adoption of symbolic algebra, and the foundational entanglement of electromagnetism, quaternions, and the philosophy of space, among others—he drew out of historical and archival sources. (Here i cannot resist mentioning Tait's collection of his intensive correspondence with Hamilton that transformed how quaternions were applied in physics and even conceptualized as mathematical objects.) We close with some thoughts on our own materially extended cognitive work and where Kevin's interests are currently driving him. Suggested companion works: • ChatGPT, as a cutting-edge extension of human thought • work by Courtney Ann Roby, including the forthcoming The Mechanical Tradition of Hero of Alexandria: Strategies of Reading from Antiquity to the Early Modern Period • Algorithmic Modernity: Mechanizing Thought and Action, 1500-2000, edited by Morgan G. Ames and Massimo Mazzotti • work by Emily Miller Bonney, for example "A Reconsideration of Depositional Practices in Early Bronze Age Crete" Kevin Lambert is a historian of science and mathematics in the early modern and modern periods and professor in the liberal studies department at California State University, Fullerton. His recent book Symbols and Things explores mathematics as a way of thinking outside the body and through the material environment. He also recently published a chapter in the volume Algorithmic Modernity that traces the genealogy of algorithmic practices. He is now working on the problem of writing longue durée histories of science. He is close to completing a paper called “Malthus in the Landscape” that investigates the temporalities of global histories. He is also exploring the problem of writing a global history of the early modern sciences without the prism of the so called “Scientific Revolution.” His work can be found on ResearchGate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/intellectual-history

Over the last century, economic growth, as measured by increases in countries' Gross Domestic Product, has been the key indicator of success. And while GDP has skyrocketed in many countries, so has fossil fuel use, deforestation, and the destruction of natural ecosystems. On top of that, inequality has actually gotten worse in many countries and incomes, adjusted for inflation, have stagnated for many parts of these "growing" economies. It seems this relentless focus on growth has not created the kind of world that most people want to live in. Professor Giorgos Kallis is an ecological economist, political ecologist, and Catalan Institution for Research and Advanced Studies Professor at the Institute of Environmental Science and Technology in Barcelona. He's also the author of several books about degrowth economics - the field of economics that questions the insatiable need for growth and seeks an alternative societal structure that supports everyone, regardless of a country's ability to grow GDP. Professor Kallis joins the show to talk about degrowth economics and why it is critical to achieve the degrowth goals if we want to reduce the negative impacts of the climate crisis. We also discuss the role that 18th century philosopher and theologian Thomas Malthus had on modern economics, why he was so wrong about inequality and limits, and some of the ideas that get attributed to him that weren't actually his. Check out these two books by Professor Kallis: "The Case for Degrowth" "Limits: Why Malthus Was Wrong and Why Environmentalists Should Care" As always, follow us @climatepod on Twitter and email us at theclimatepod@gmail.com. Our music is "Gotta Get Up" by The Passion Hifi, check out his music at thepassionhifi.com. Rate, review and subscribe to this podcast on iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, and more! Subscribe to our YouTube channel! Join our Facebook group.  

Who is Thomas Malthus and why should you care? Well most of the nonsense that is widely accepted now for population control started somewhere. As always, if you want a large portion of a population to accept something there must be an ideological subversion first. Let's talk about how the elites have convinced women that abortion is empowerment and that corporations “care sooooo much” about women and health care. It's a hot take folks!As always, don't forget to spread the fire!!!