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Couples Therapy
George Civeris and Sam Taggart

Couples Therapy

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 23, 2021 83:25


George Civeris and Sam Taggart, yes! You know them from their faboo podcast StraightioLab and maybe you know George as an editor at Gawker or as a Just for Laughs New Face? And maybe you've seen Sam pop up on Ziwe or Los Espookys? Well, now you get to hear them like you've NEVER (maybe) heard them before! We ask the question, "Are psychos fun?" And of course discuss sincere irony and dissect the lads' relationship histories! PLUS, of course, we answer YOUR advice questions! If you'd like to ask advice questions, call 323-524-7839 and leave a VM or just DM us on IG or Twitter! Also, support the show on Patreon or with a t-shirt (or a Jewboo shirt) and watch us every once in a while on Twitch or check out clips on YouTube! See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

The American Age
“Identity Fraud”: Woke, Race Hustling, and Manners

The American Age

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2021 61:07


197 - The hosts discuss Jenny Zhang's recent Gawker article, “Identity Fraud.” The history of race hustling is discussed, as is what it means to have power. How can you tell the difference between someone holding on to hurt, and someone hurting? Is “woke” a white performance, or is it a way to be more inclusive and caring about others?

The Nathan Barry Show
055: Andrew Warner - Turning Your Podcast Into a Successful Business

The Nathan Barry Show

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2021 68:07


Andrew Warner has been part of the internet startup scene since 1997. Andrew and his brother built a $30 million per year online business, which they later sold. After taking an extended vacation and doing some traveling, Andrew started Mixergy. Mixergy helps ambitious upstarts learn from some of the most successful people in business.Andrew and I talk about his new book, Stop Asking Questions. It's a great read on leading dynamic interviews, and learning anything from anyone. We also talk about longevity and burnout as an entrepreneur. Andrew gives me feedback about my interviewing style, the direction I should take the podcast, and much more.In this episode, you'll learn: Why you need to understand and communicate your mission How to get your guest excited about being interviewed What to do instead of asking questions How to hook your audience and keep them engaged Links & Resources ConvertKit Gregg Spiridellis JibJab Ali Abdaal The Web App Challenge: From Zero to $5,000/month In 6 Months Groove Zendesk Help Scout Jordan Harbinger Noah Kagan Bob Hiler Seth Godin Morning Brew Alex Lieberman Keap (formerly Infusionsoft) Notion Sahil Bloom Ryan Holiday Brent Underwood Ghost Town Living Trust Me, I'm Lying: Confessions of a Media Manipulator Damn Gravity Paul Graham Y Combinator Nathan Barry: Authority Ira Glass NPR This American Life Barbara Walters Richard Nixon interview Oprah interview with Lance Armstrong Matt Mullenweg Chris Pearson Conspiracy: Peter Thiel, Hulk Hogan, Gawker, and the Anatomy of Intrigue Peter Thiel Gawker Nick Denton The Wall Street Journal Rohit Sharma SanDisk Jason Calacanis Dickie Bush Sean McCabe Daily Content Machine Jordan Peterson Tribes Warren Buffet Sam Walton Ted Turner GothamChess LinkedIn Learning (formerly Lynda.com) Inc.com: Selling Your Company When You're Running on Fumes Chess.com Mark Cuban James Altucher Rod Drury Andrew Warner's Links Andrew Warner Stop Asking Questions Mixergy Episode Transcript[00:00:00] Andrew:The top 10 interviews of all time are news-based interviews. We, as podcasters, keep thinking, “How do I get enough in the can, so if I die tomorrow, there's enough interviews to last for a month, so I can be consistent, and the audience loves me.”That's great, but I think we should also be open to what's going on in the world today. Let's go talk to that person today. If there's an artist who's suddenly done something, we should go ask to do an interview with them.[00:00:32] Nathan:In this episode, I talk to my friend, Andrew Warner, who I've known for a long time. He actually played a really crucial role in the ConvertKit story in the early days, and provided some great encouragement along the way to help me continue the company, and get through some tough spots.We actually don't get into that in this episode, but it takes an interesting turn because we just dive right in.Andrew's got a book on interviewing. He runs Mixergy. He's been, running Mixergy for a long time. We talk about longevity and burnout, and a bunch of other things. He dives in and challenges me, and gives me feedback on my interviewing style. Where I should take the Podcast, and a bunch of other stuff. It's more of a casual conversation than the back-and-forth interview of how he grew his business. But I think you'll like it. It's a lot of what I'm going for on the show.So anyway, enjoy the episode.Andrew, welcome to the show.[00:01:25] Andrew:Thanks for having me on.[00:01:26] Nathan:There's all kinds of things we can talk about today, but I want to start with the new book that you got coming out.This is actually slightly intimidating; I am interviewing someone who has a book coming out about how to be good at interviewing. Where do we even go from here? You were saying that you have thoughts?[00:01:47] Andrew:I have feedback for you. I have a thoughts on your program.[00:01:51] Nathan:I'm now even more nervous.[00:01:52] Andrew:I've been listening, and I've been following, and I've been looking for questioning styles. Is there feedback I could give him? I mean, I've wrote a whole book on it. I should have tons of ideas on that.I don't. Here's the thing that stood out for me watching you. There's an ease and a comfort with these guests, but I'm trying to figure out what you're trying to do with the Podcast. What is connecting them? Are you trying to bring me, the listener, in and teach me how to become a better creator who's going to grow an audience and make a career out of it? Or are you trying to learn for yourself what to do?How to become closer to what Ali Abdaal doing, for example, or Sahil Bloom? Are you trying to do what they did, and grow your audience? Or is it a combination of the two?I think the lack of that focus makes me feel a little untethered, and I know that being untethered and going raw, and letting it go anywhere is fine, but I think it would be helpful if you gave me a mission.What's the mission that Nathan Barry's on with the Podcast. Why is he doing these interviews?[00:02:56] Nathan:Oh, that's interesting. Because it's probably different: my mission, versus the audience members' mission.[00:03:05] Andrew:I think you should have a boat together and, but go ahead.[00:03:08] Nathan:I was going to say mine is to meet interesting people. Like that's the thing I found that, podcasts are the pressure from two sides, one as a creator, as an individual online, like I'm not going to set aside the time to be like, you know what, I'm going to meet one interesting person a week and we're just going to have a conversation riff on something like that.Doesn't happen the times that, you know, the years that I didn't do this show, I didn't set aside like deliberate time to do that. And then the other thing is if I were to set aside that time and send out that email, I think a lot of people would be like, I kind of had to have a busy week. I don't know that I've, you know, like yeah, sure.Nathan, whoever you are. I did a Google search. You seem moderately interesting. I'm not sure that I want to get on that.Like a, get to know[00:03:58] Andrew:They wouldn't and it would be awkward. And you're right. The Podcast gives you an excuse. I think you should go higher level with it though. I think you should go deep to the point where you feel vulnerable. I think what you should do is say something like this, isn't it. You have to go into your own into your own mission and say, this is what it is.And just, so let me set the context for why this matters. I think it helps the audience know, but it also helps you get better guests to give better of themselves. I talk in the book about how I was interviewing Greg spirit, Dallas, the guy who created jib, jab, you know, those old viral video, it was a fire video factory that also created apps that allowed you to turn your yourself into like a viral meme that you could then send to your friends.Anyway, he didn't know me. He was incredibly successful. He was, I think, person of the year, a company of the year named by time. He was on the tonight show because he created these videos that had gone viral. And yes. He said yes, because a friend of a friend invited him, but I could see that he was just kind of slouching.He was wearing a baseball cap. It wasn't a good position. And then he said, why are we doing this? And I said, I want to do a story. That's so important. That tells the story of how you built your business. Yes. For my audience. So they see how new businesses are being built online, but let's make it so clear about what you did, that your great grandkids can listen to this.And then they will know how to great grandfather do this and put us in this situation. And that's what I wanted. I wanted for him to create that. And he told me that afterwards, if he had known that that was a mission, he wouldn't have put his hat on. He said that after that, he started thinking about the business in a more in depth way, visualizing his great grandchild.And then later on, he asked me for that recording so that he could have it in his family collection. So the reason I say that is I want us to have a mission. That's that important that yes. You could get somebody to sit in front of the camera because you're telling me you're doing a podcast, frankly.Right. You're with ConvertKit they're going to say yes, but how do you bring the best out of them? And that's it. And so that's why I'm doing this. And so one suggestion for you is to say something like.I'm Nathan, I've been a creator my whole life, but I'm starting from scratch right now with YouTube.I've got 435 people watching YouTube. It's not terrible, but it's clearly not where I want to end up. And so what I've decided to do is instead of saying, I've created the book authority, I wrote it. I'm the one who created software that all these creators are using a ConvertKit. Instead of, instead of allowing myself to have the comfort of all my past successes, I'm going to have the discomfort of saying, I don't know what it's like.And so I'm going to bring on all these people who, because maybe I've got credibility from ConvertKit are going to do interviews with me. And they're going to teach me like Alia doll and others are going to teach me how they became better creators, better business people. I'm going to use it to inform my, my, growth on YouTube.And by the way, You'll all get to follow along. And if you want to follow along and build along with me, this is going to come from an earnest place. Now I've obviously gone. Long-winded cause I'm kind of riffing here, but that's a mission. And now we're watching as you go from four to 500, now we care about your growth.Now there's someone giving you feedback and more importantly, there's someone who then can go back years later and see the breadcrumbs. Even if the whole thing fails and say, you know what?Nathan made it in virtual reality videos. And he's amazing. But look at what he did when YouTube was there. He clearly didn't do it, but he aspired right. I could aspire to, if I don't do it, I'll do it in the next level. That's that's what I'm going for with it. I talk too much sometimes and give people too much, too much feedback. How does that sit with you?[00:07:14] Nathan:I like the idea. I particularly love anytime a creator's going on a journey and inviting people along for it, right. When you're sitting there and giving advice or whatever else, it's just not that compelling to follow it unless there's a destination in mind. So I did that with ConvertKit in the early days of, I said, like I called it the web app challenge said, I'm trying to grow it from zero to 5,000 a month in recurring revenue.Within six months, I'm going to like live blog, the whole thing. people love that another example would be also in the SAS space, but, the company grew, they did a customer support software and they, I think. They were going from 25,000 a month to 500,000 a month was their goal. and they even have like, in their opt-in form, as they blogged and shared all the lessons, it had like a progress bar.You'd see, like MRR was at 40,000,[00:08:08] Andrew:Every time you read a blog post, you see the MRR and the reason that you don't remember what the number was is I believe that they changed it, you know, as they achieve the goal, they, they changed it to show the next goal on their list. And yeah, and you've got to follow along now. Why do I care? The groove, HQ or groove is, is growing a competitor to Zendesk and help scout.But now that I'm following along, I'm kind of invested now that I see how they're writing about their progress. I really do care. And by the way, what is this groove and why is it better than help scout and the others? Yeah. I agree with you. I think that makes a lot of sense. I think in conversations also, it makes a lot of sense.I think a lot of people will come to me and say, Andrew, can I just ask you for some feedback? I'm a student. Can I ask you for support? It's helpful for them to ask, but if they could ground me in the purpose, if you could say to somebody I'm coming to you with these questions, because this is where I'm trying to go, it changes the way that they react.It makes them also feel more on onboard with the mission. I have a sense that there is one, I'm just saying nail it, you know, who does it really good? who does a great job with it is a Jordan harbinger. He starts out his each episode is almost if you're a fan of his, it's almost like enough already. I get that.You're going to do an opt-in in the beginning of the Podcast. I get that. What you're trying to do is show us how to whatever network now and become better people. But it's fine. I'd much rather people say, I know too much about what this mission is. Then I don't.[00:09:26] Nathan:Do you who's afraid anyone else tuning in? What, what is Jordan's mission? What would he say is the mission that[00:09:32] Andrew:It's about, see, that's the other thing I can't actually, even though I've heard it a billion times, he's adjusted it. It's about, self-improvement making me a better person better, man. And so the earnestness of that makes me accept when he brings somebody on who's a little bit too academic who's, Jordan's interested in it or a little bit too practical to the point where it feels like I'm just getting too many tips on how to network and I don't need it, but I've got his sensibility.He's trying to make me a better person. And so I think with interviews, if you, if you give people the, the mission, they'll forgive more, they'll accommodate the largest and it does allow you to have a broader, a broader set of topics.[00:10:14] Nathan:Yeah. I'm thinking about the mission side of it. Like all of that resonates. and I love when an interview is questions are Like are the questions that they specifically want to know? It's not like I went through my list and this seems like a good question to ask instead. It's like, no, no, no, Andrew specifically, I want to know what should I do about, this?And I'll even call that out in a show and be like, look, I don't even care if there's an audience right now. Like this is my list, you know?[00:10:41] Andrew:Yes.[00:10:41] Nathan:But the, like if we dive into the mission, the one that you outlined doesn't quite resonate. And I think the reason. I think about, creators who have already made it in some way.And it starts to lose that earnestness. Like, honestly, I'm not that interested in, in growing a YouTube[00:11:00] Andrew:I don't think that that's I don't think that that's it for you. It's true. That's a little bit too. I don't know. It's it's a little, it's a little too early in the career. There is something there. I don't know what it is and it can't be enough. It can't be enough to say I need to meet interesting people because that's very youth centric and I'm not on a mission to watch you, unless you're really going to go for like the super right.And we're constantly aspiring, inspiring. the other thing it could be as you're running a company, you're trying to understand what's going on. No Kagan did that really well. I actually have the reason that I know this stuff is in order to write the book. I said, I have all my transcripts. I can study all the ways that I've questioned, but I also want to see what other people have done.And so Noah Kagan did this interview with an NPR producer. I had that transcribed to understand what he did and what he learned. One of the things that he did in that, that made that such a compelling interview is. He was a podcaster who wanted to improve his podcasting. And he, I think he even paid the producer to do an interview with him on his podcast so that he could learn from him.Right. And in the process, he's asking serious questions that he's really wondering. He's trying to figure out how to make a show more interesting for himself. Now. Clearly someone like me, who wants to make my Podcast more interesting. I'm like mentally scribbling notes as I'm running, listening to the podcasting.Oh yeah. The rule of three, like what are the three things you're going to show me?Well, yeah, at the end he did summarize it and he did edit. I don't like the edits at all because the edits take away some of the rawness of it and the discomfort which I personally enjoy, but I see now how he's editing it out.And it's, it's interesting to watch that progress.[00:12:32] Nathan:Yeah, I'm thinking through. The different angles that I could take with this. cause I like it and I feel like there's a, a thread that's not quite there. And I felt that on the show. Right. Cause people ask, oh, why are you having this guest on versus that guest? and it is that like, I, I find them interesting.There's also another angle of like probably half the guests maybe are on ConvertKit already. And so I want to highlight that. And then the other half of the guests aren't and I want them on ConvertKit and so that's an, you know, an incredibly easy, I can send you a cold email and be like, Andrew switched to ConvertKit.Right. Or I could be like, Hey, you know, have you on the show, we could talk. and we've gotten great people like in the music space and other areas from just having them on the show and then[00:13:18] Andrew:Can I give you, by the way, I know it's a sidetrack and I give you a great story of someone who did that. Okay. it's not someone that, you know, it's a guy who for years had helped me out. His name is Bob Highler every week he would get on a call with me and give me advice on how to improve the business.And then at one point he said, you know what? I need new clients. I want to start going after people who are, I want to start going after lawyers, helping them with their online ads, because lawyers aren't, aren't doing well enough.He started doing all these marketing campaigns because he's a marketer. And so one of the things he did was he got these cards printed up.He said, they look just like wedding invitations, beautiful. He, he mailed them out to lawyers. He got one, two responses. Like nobody would pay attention to a stranger, even if they were earnest and sending those out. And he goes, you know, and then he gets on a call. He doesn't even know what to say to people.If he just cold calling goes, I'm going to try to do that. And Andrew, I'm going to do an interview show for lawyers. He picked bankruptcy lawyers. He started asking them for interviews. They were all flattered because they also want another good Google hit. Right. And so they said yes to him and he asked them questions.Then I started learning the language. I forget all the different terms that he learned about how, about how they operate. But he said, inevitably at the end, they'll go after it was done. And say, by the way, what are you. And then he'd have a chance to tell them. And because he's built up this rapport and they trust him, they were much more likely to sign them.He signed up his customers, just like that, just like that. It's a, I think it's an, it's an unexplored way of doing it, of, of growing a business, taking an interest in someone, shining a light on them, helping them get that Google hit and helping them tell their story. And then by the way, will you pay attention to the fact that I've got a thing that if you like me, you might like also,[00:14:50] Nathan:So a few years ago, I was in New York and Seth Goden had come out to speak at our conference and he'd ever said, Hey, if you're in New York and want to make the pilgrimage up to Hastings on Hudson, you know, of outside the city, like come up and visit. And so I did that and it's so funny, cause it is like this pilgrimage to you, you like take the train up along the river. You know, I don't know what it is an hour and a half outside of the city. and I was asking Seth advice at his office, about like how to reach more authors. I think that was the question I asked him specifically and he just, he was like, well, what do authors want? And I was like, ah, I, some more books I guess.And he's like, yeah know. And so like we went through a series of questions, but he's basically what he came to was, find a way to get them attention so that they can grow their audience to sell more books. And he was suggesting a podcast is the way to do that. What's interesting is that's the side, like that's the other half of it, right.I want to meet interesting people. I want to, Like get more of those people that I find really interesting on ConvertKit pushed the limits of like, our customer base in, in those areas. And then the third thing is I want to do it in a way that's high leverage in my time. Write of, I want to do it.That creates something, for people watching and listening along so they can follow the journey. But I still don't see,I would say two thirds of that is about me, right?[00:16:18] Andrew:It's not only that, but all these things are byproducts more than they are the clear goal. You're going to get that. No matter what, if you just talk all day about what? No, not talk all day. If you do, what was it? I'm the founder of morning brew does nothing, but like a 15 minute, if that sometimes five minutes.[00:16:37] Nathan:Alex Lieberman.[00:16:38] Andrew:Yeah, just what, what goes on in his life now it's changed over the years or so that he's done it, but it's just, here's what we were thinking about today. Here's how I'm deciding to hire somebody BA done. He's just doing that. That's enough to get attention enough to also broaden his audience enough to bring us in and then so on.So I think if you just did nothing, but get on camera and talk for a bit, you'll get that. But I think a higher leverage thing is to tap into that personal mission and let all the others come through along the way and all the other benefits, meaning that you will get to meet people and change the way you think you will get to get people to switch to convert kit.And so on, by the way, that's such a, like an impressive thing for you to admit, to say, I want to have these guests on because I want to assign them up. I think a lot of people would have those ulterior motives and[00:17:23] Nathan:Oh, no, you got to just talk about, I mean, that's something you and I, for as long as we've known each other have been very, very transparent in both of our separate businesses and our conversations and it's just, everyone wants that. Right? Cause they're like, I think I know why Nathan is doing this, but he wants.And that would be weird, but if we go to the mission side of it, there's mission of like this, I'm going to improve the world side of mission, which definitely exists that can protect you. And I got my little plaque behind me. It says we exist to help creators are living. And so we can take that angle of it, thinking of like the, the goal journey side of things, since we're just riffing on ideas.One way that might be interesting is to make like a top 100 list of the top 100 creators we want on ConvertKit. And the whole podcast is about interviewing those people and reaching them. And, and so it could be like, this is what I'm trying to accomplish. And you're going to learn a whole bunch along the way as a listener, but you, you know, we check in on that.And then another angle that we could take that would be different is the, like we're going together. We're going to help the creator make the best version of their business. And so you make it more of a.We're both peers diving in on your business, riffing on it, you know, how would we improve it? that kind of thing.[00:18:43] Andrew:I think helping creators create a business, seems like something others have done, but not quite your approach, your style, the way that you will go and carve something is this is the thing that's over your head that says create. Is that something you carved in your wood shop? Then I saw on Instagram.Yeah, right. The sensibility of I've got to create it my way. Instead of that's a pain in the ass, I got a business to run who like, right. You're not going to see, for example, infusion soft, go, we need a plaque. Let's go to the wood shop. No, you're not. It's just not their sensibility. Right. Coming from a sensibility of someone who cares about the details, who every button matters in the software, everything behind your shoulder matters to you for yourself, even the stuff I imagine.If you look forward would have a meaning there, it wouldn't be random chaos. Is it random chaos in front of, on the[00:19:32] Nathan:The desk is random chaos, but there's a sign that says the future belongs to creators up there. And[00:19:38] Andrew:Okay. I think I might've even seen that online somewhere. So I think that coming, coming from the business point of view, With a sense of creator's taste, I think is something that would appeal to a lot of people. For whom seeing, for example, my take on business would be completely abhorring. All I care about is where the numbers are and what it's like.Right. Well, even allium doll's take on, it would not be, would not be right, because he's much more about every movement needs to matter. He can't just have a checkbox in notion it Ellis has to fire off five different other things that notion because otherwise you're wasting time. Why type five things when you could type one, right.It's a different sensibility. And I think you've always done really well drawing in that audience. I remember talking to a competitor of yours who started around the same time, also done really well about why you were, you were really growing tremendously faster. and they said he nailed it. He nailed who his audience is.It's the bloggers. It's these early creators who, who didn't have. Who didn't have anyone speaking for them. And you did that. And I think maybe that's an approach to saying, look, we are creators. And the business of creation is, or the business of being a creator is evolving and we want to learn about every part of it.And then it's interesting to hear how somebody growing their audience in an interesting way. How is somebody thinking about writing? I love that you asked Sahil bloom about how long it took him to write. I know he talks about it a bunch, but it's, it's interesting to hear him go with you about how it is like a five hour, seven hour writing job for him, right.To write fricking tweets. He's writing tweets, right? You've got people just firing off the tweet. He's spending five, seven hours on it. And, and he's also not a guy who's just like, right. It would be something if he was still in school playing baseball, and this is his intellectual, whatever. No, he's now running in investments.He's making decisions. He's helping promote his, his portfolio companies and he's spending five hours writing and he's doing it like one a week instead of one an hour. Right. It's all very interesting. And that approach, I think, ties completely well with ConvertKit.[00:21:41] Nathan:Okay. So where does that take us on like the mission or the hook for the show? Cause we're.[00:21:48] Andrew:Okay. Here's what I would do. I would, I would just keep riffing go. My name is Nathan Barry. You probably know me from convert kit. I'm doing this podcast because I like to meet interesting people. And here's the thing I'm trying to do or I'm I I'm doing it because I'm compelled to talk to these people who I admire.And I also want to learn from them about how they create and just riff on it. Like every week, even have every interview have a different one, until you feel like, oh, that's the one that feels just right. But if we just here, I want to have this person on, because I'm trying to learn this thing. I want to have this on because secretly I'm trying to see if I can get him to be at, see if I can get Ryan holiday to actually be on convert kit.Right. Boom. Now, now we're kind of following along as you're figuring it out. And that's also[00:22:29] Nathan:Yeah.[00:22:29] Andrew:The way, is Ryan holiday going to be on here or what?[00:22:31] Nathan:On the show,[00:22:33] Andrew:Yeah.[00:22:34] Nathan:Probably we were just talking the other day. We have a shared investment in a ghost town, So we, we often talk about that,[00:22:40] Andrew:Oh yeah. I've[00:22:42] Nathan:Other thing[00:22:43] Andrew:That ghost town. Oh, that's a whole other thing I've been watching that[00:22:45] Nathan:I need to have speaking of the ghost town, I didn't have Brent Underwood on because that Is an insane story of everything going on with town, but it's just been building this massive audience.[00:22:58] Andrew:Who's doing YouTube videos from there? He[00:23:00] Nathan:Yeah. And he's now got 1.2[00:23:01] Andrew:Yeah,[00:23:02] Nathan:Subscribers on YouTube, like 2 million on[00:23:04] Andrew:I had no idea. I watched him in the early days of the pandemic go into this place by himself. Almost get trapped, driving his car to get there. Right. I go, this is fun content. And usually when you watch someone like that and good morning, America go, and I'm going to jump out of this thing.And I've never jumped before, maybe whatever. I don't know.Yo, the producer's not going to let you die. It's fine. Here you go, dude. Who's just trying to get attention for this thing. Cause he has some investors who he wants to make sure get what they want. Yeah, you could die. What the hell is you doing?What? Like I'm going to, I'm going to go down this hole and see if there's anything over you yet. Dude, you could[00:23:41] Nathan:Yeah. It's, it's pretty wild. I actually, some of the weeks that he don't, he, that he didn't post the videos. I'd like, texted him, be like, Brett, you're still alive because you know, the video was the way that we knew every Friday, like, okay, Good Brent. Still alive, everything. Everything's good. Anyway, I got to have him[00:23:58] Andrew:All right. If you do talk to, if you talk to Ryan holiday, I feel like you totally nailed his writing style, where you, you said in one of your past episodes that he can take a whole historical story, sum it up in two sentences to help clarify the moment that he's writing about. And it's like a toss away thing, right? Just toss it away and then move on and go, dude. That's a whole freaking book. In fact, just turning the whole thing into just two sentences to fit in there would take silo, bloom five hours. You put it in a book with other, like there a bunch of other sentences. So that's good. But here's what I think you should talk to him about.Or here's my, my one suggestion. He has not talked about Marketing since he created, trust me. I'm a lot. Trust me. I'm lying, which was a phenomenal book that then I feel like he distanced himself from when he became more stoic and more intellectual. Fine. He is still a great, great marketer along your style, your tasty.And in fact, he's becoming the people who I can think of that are very, ConvertKit like philosophy in their creation plus promotion. He nails it, right? Art that takes so much pain that you've mentioned, and we've all seen it. He has boxes of index cards to create these sentences that most people would just throw away, not pay attention to, but are super meaningful.And at the same time, he knows how to promote. He knows how to get his ideas out there. He knows how to sell a coin that says you're going to die in Latin, that people put in their pockets that are more than just selling a coin. It's selling this transferable viral, real life thing. Right. So anyway. And is he should be on a ConvertKit too.[00:25:29] Nathan:He is, he is[00:25:30] Andrew:Okay. Good.[00:25:31] Nathan:Half of his list started in Berkeley. The other half are in the process of switching over. So, you know,[00:25:36] Andrew:Okay. Yeah, that's the hard part, dude. I I'm with infusion soft. I can't stand them. If you understand how much I do not like them. I do I ever talk negatively about anyone. No. Bring up politics, Joe Biden, Donald Trump. I got no strong opinion about anything you talked to me about, about infusions. Ah, but the problem is it's so hard to wean yourself off of these things because once you're in a system, that's it[00:25:56] Nathan:Well we'll make it happen. W w we'll figure out a way, but the new book landing page for it, I went on there and inspected element. It's definitely a ConvertKit for them. I was pretty happy about it.[00:26:06] Andrew:Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So truthfully it was, I said, I'm not going to school around here. It would have probably been easier for me to go with, with infusion soft because then we all we'd have to do with tag people who were interested. And then I could, I don't want that. I don't want that nonsense because it comes with overhead.That becomes an obstacle to me, communicating with my audience by, by overhead. I mean, they've got historic legacy. Requirement's that mean I can't do anything right. You I'm on my iPad. I could just go in and send a message out. Or actually I haven't sent a message out. Someone else has sent a message out.Our publisher sent a message then from damn, ah, damn gravity. But I, but if someone says there's a problem, I can go in and see it.[00:26:44] Nathan:Right.[00:26:44] Andrew:And make adjustments. The whole thing just fricking works. Right?[00:26:47] Nathan:So I want to talk about the book more. Let's talk[00:26:49] Andrew:Sure.[00:26:50] Nathan:And now I have you here.[00:26:52] Andrew:Ben needs, us to talk about the book. He's the publisher.[00:26:54] Nathan:We'll get to that, then don't worry. Ben, we've got it covered. so you were giving unsolicited feedback, which by the way is my favorite kind of feedback. Okay.So as you've been listening to the show, what are some other things that maybe you recommended the book, maybe like as you set people up for interview questions, any of that advice that you would give beyond?We started with the men.[00:27:15] Andrew:I'm going to suggest that people who listen to you do pay attention to this. One thing that they should, I I'm interrupting you in a roadway now there's some good interruption that I write about in the book and I can tell you how to do it. Right. And I also have to say that there's some new Yorker that's built in, even though I've left New York a long time ago, that I, I always interrupt when we need to get into the bottom line.Okay. Here's one thing that I think people should pay attention with you. You don't just ask questions. You will, at times interject your own story, your own, take your own experience. And I find that a lot of times people either do it in a heavy handed way. It's like, look at me, I'm equal to you. I deserve to be in this conversation too.And that doesn't just happen on Mike. It happens at dinner parties or it's more like I have to be reverential. So I'm asking questions and it's me asking about them. And one of the things that I learned over the years, Getting to know someone interviewing someone, whether it's like you and I are doing in our podcasts and shows or doing it, in a, in a dinner conversation, it's not asking questions.It's not about saying here's my next thing. Here's my next question. It's overwhelming and draining to do that. You do need to say, well, here's me. You do need to sometimes just guide the person to say, now tell me how you wrote the book. Now tell me how long it takes to, to write a tweet, right? Whatever it is, you need to sometimes direct the person.And so I call the book, stop asking questions because that counter intuitive piece of knowledge is something that took me a fricking interview coach to help me accept that. It's true, but it helps. And you do it really well. And here's why you do it. Well, you interject something personal. Somehow you do it succinctly.You don't get rambling off. Maybe you edit that.No, no, because the videos are there. Yeah. It's, it's not edited. It's just you saying here's, here's my experience with this. And then when you come back and you ask something. It informs the guest about where you are and what they could contribute to that. It lets them also feel like this is a dialogue instead of them being pounded with demands of, in the forms of question.[00:29:15] Nathan:Yeah. Yeah. I think that for anyone listening and thinking about starting a podcast, it's really like, what's the kind of thing that you want to listen to. And I like it where the host is like a character in the, in the Podcast, in the episode where they're contributing content and it's not just like, oh, if I listened to Andrew on these 10 shows, I'm just going to get Andrew.Like, I want it where it's like, no, I'm getting the blend between these two people. And the unique things that come from that intersection rather than, you know, I've heard this[00:29:46] Andrew:Yes.[00:29:47] Nathan:I've heard about it.[00:29:48] Andrew:I think also it took me a long time years of, so I started doing this in 2007, give or take a year and I think. No one needs to talk about, I don't need to talk about myself. They don't care about me. They care about, you know, Paul Graham, who I'm interviewing about how he found a Y Combinator, someone.And I would get tons of emails from people saying, tell us who you are. Tell us a little bit about yourself. And I would argue with them and say, no, but I understand now on the outside, when I listen, I don't know who you are. And it feels very awkward to hear it. It feels very much like, I don't know why, where you're coming from.And so I don't know why I should listen. It's kinda, it's it's counterintuitive.[00:30:29] Nathan:Yeah. I think it just comes with comfort over time. Like, I, I don't know this for sure. If I bet if I listen back to my first podcast episodes, the ones that I did in like 2015. I have a different style because I bet I'm less comfortable or more worried about like, make sure that I shut up quickly so that the guests can talk more because people came here for the guest and then over time you just get more comfortable.[00:30:53] Andrew:So you wrote authority and I remember you, I remember buying it and I remember you bundled it with a bunch of stuff, right. And oh, by the way, it's so cool. I was listening to it on a run and I heard you mention my name in the, in the book I go, this is great and I'm running. but I remember you did interviews there.I don't remember whether the style matches up to today or what, but you did interviews in it. Right.[00:31:15] Nathan:I did.[00:31:16] Andrew:And what you had there that I think is always important to have with all, all interviews is you had a sense of like, well, the sense of mission, I knew what you were going for, because you were trying to say, here is this book that I've written on this topic.I'm want to bring these people in to bring their, their take on it. We were all kind of working together. And I feel like, when I look at my earlier interviews, I listened to them. The Mike sucks so badly. I was too ponderous. Cause I wanted to be like, IRA glass from, from NPR, from this American life.And you could hear the same rhythm, the same cadence, like I'm copying him. Like I'm his little brother trying to learn how to be like a real boy. but I had this real need. I was trying to figure out how these people were building companies that work to understand what holes I had in my understanding to see what was working for them that I didn't know before.And you could see that and it, it helps. It helped me continue. Even when I was nervous with the guest, it helped the guests know where to go. Even when I wasn't doing good job, guiding them and help the audience keep listening in, even when the audio stopped, because there's this thing that Andrew is trying to understand.And you almost feel like you're the sense of vulnerability. If it doesn't scare you away, then it makes you want to root.[00:32:40] Nathan:Yeah. And I personally love that style because I want to follow someone going on a journey and, and trying to accomplish something specific. But let's talk about the not just the book, but asking questions or in this case, stopping it, stop asking questions. What are the things that not even just specific to this job, what are the things that you listened to interview shows?And you're like, okay, here are the three things that I want to change or that I want to coach you on in the same way that I was coached on.[00:33:10] Andrew:Okay. So what I started to do is I go through my own transcripts. I mean, I had years of transcripts to see what worked and what didn't I already done that. So I said, I need to now add to it. And so I went back and looked at historical interviews, like when Barbara Walters interviewed Richard Nixon and got him so frustrated that he didn't want to ever talk to her again.Or when Oprah finally got to sit with Lance Armstrong, how did she do that? I think. You know, you know, let me pause on, on Oprah and Lance Armstrong. She got to interview him after he, he was basically caught cheating and he was about to come out and do it. Great. Get, I think the fact that she interviewed him, there's a lesson there for, for all of us who are interviewing, interviewing the top 10 interviews, I think of all time.And you go back to Wikipedia and look it up. You see art or interview podcast or interview, sorry, our news-based interviews. We as podcasters, keep thinking, how do I get enough in the can so that if I die tomorrow, there's enough interviews to last for a month or whatever, so that I can be consistent in the audience loved me.That's great. But I think we should also be open to what's going on in the world today. Let's go talk to that person today. If there's an artist who suddenly done something, we should go and ask to do an interview with them. If there's a creator, if there's someone. So for me, one of the top interviews that people still it's been years, people still come back and talk to me about is when Matt Mullenweg decided that he was gonna pull out Chris[00:34:35] Nathan:Pearson.[00:34:35] Andrew:Per Pearson.Pearson's, themes from WordPress. And I got to talk to both of them at the same time and I published it and it went all over the internet with all over the WordPress internet. So hundreds of different blog posts about it, eventually all the people in the WordPress world write a lot of blogs, but also it became news.And so we don't do enough of that.[00:34:57] Nathan:I remember that interview because I was in the WordPress community at that time. And I remember you saying like, wait, I'm in Skype and I have both of you in two different things and you pull it together and not to pull Ryan holiday into this too much, but that's where he ended up writing the book.Was it, he realized he was one of the only people who was talking to like both Peter teal and, who's the Gawker guy.Yeah. Anyway, people know, but, but being in the intersection of that, so you're saying find something that's relevant on the news[00:35:33] Andrew:Yeah. Nick Denton was the founder of Gawker. Yes. Find the things that are relevant right now. And when people are hot right now, and they know you and you have credibility in this space, they trust you more than they trust. Say the wall street journal, even right, where they don't know where's this going.I think that's, that's one thing. The other thing is I think we don't have enough of a story within interviews. If we're doing S if we're doing at Mixergy, my podcast and interview where we're telling someone's story, we want them to be somewhere where the audience is at the beginning and then to have done something or had something happen to them that sets them on their own little journey.And then we make this whole interview into this. Into this a hero's journey approach. So I think better when I have an actual company in mind, so, or a person in mind. So last week I was interviewing this guy, Rohit Rowan was a person who was working at SanDisk, had everything going right for him. His boss comes to him and says it, you're now a director, continue your work.But now more responsibilities he's elated. He goes back, home, comes back into the office. Things are good, does work. And then a couple of days later he's told, you know, we mean temporarily, right? And he goes, what do you mean? I thought I got, I got a promotion. No, this is temporary. While our director's out you're director of this department.And then you go back, he says, the very next day, he couldn't go back into the office. He sat in his car, just, he couldn't do it anymore. And so he decided at that point, he'd heard enough about entrepreneurship heard enough ideas. He had to go off on and do it himself. And so we did. And then through the successes and failures, we now have a story about someone who's doing something that we can relate to, that we aspire to be more.[00:37:13] Nathan:So, how do you, you, your researchers, how do you find that moment before you have someone on? Because so many people will be like, yes, let me tell you about my business today. And oh, you want to know about that? How'd, you know, you know, like, as you,[00:37:27] Andrew:Yeah,[00:37:28] Nathan:That hook in that moment? That actually is a catalyst in their own dream.[00:37:33] Andrew:It's tough. It's it takes hours of talking to the guest of, of looking online of hunting for that moment. And it takes a lot of acceptance when it doesn't happen. One of my interview coaches said, Andrew, be careful of not looking for the Batman moment. And I said, what do you mean? He goes, you're always looking for the one moment that changed everything in people's lives.Like when Batman's parents got shot. And from there, he went from being a regular boy to being a superhero. Who's going to cry, fight crime everywhere. His life doesn't really work that way. There aren't these one moments, usually the change, everything. So I try not to. Put too much pressure on any one moment, but there are these little moments that indicate a bigger thing that happened to us.And I look for those and I allow people to tell that without having it be the one and only thing that happened. So if Pharaoh, it, it wasn't that moment. It could've just been, you know what, every day I go into the office and things are boring. And I think I have to stop. What I look for is give me an example of a boring.Now he can tell me about a day, a day, where he's sitting at his desk and all he's doing is looking at his watch, looking at his watch and he has to take his watch, put it in his drawer so that he doesn't get too distracted by looking at his watch all day. Cause he hates it. Now was that the one moment that changed everything?It was one of many moments. It might've happened a year before he quit, but it's an indication. So when we're telling stories, we don't have to shove too much pressure into one moment, but I do think it helps to find that one moment that encapsulates their, why, why did they go on this journey? Why does someone who's in SanDisk decide he's going to be an entrepreneur?Why did someone who was a baseball player decide that he had to go and write a blog post? Why is it? What's the thing that then sends them off on this journey? It helps. And I would even say, if you can get that moment, it just helps to get the thing that they were doing before that we can relate to. So what's the thing that they did before.So anyway, we have two different types of interviews. One is the story-based interview where we tell a story of how someone achieved something great. And so that hero's journey is and approach. The other one is someone just wants to teach them. All you want to do is just pound into them for an hour. Give me another tip another tip another tip of how to do this.Like pound, pound, pound, pound pound. If you want the audience to listen. I think for there, it helps to have what I call the cult hook because I said, how do I, how do cults get people to listen to, to these people who are clearly whack jobs sometimes. And so studying one called I saw that what they did was they'd have a person up on stage who talked about how, you know, I used to really be a Boozer.If you came into my house, you would see that there'd be these empty six packs. I was so proud of leaving the empty six packs everywhere to show myself how much alcohol I can drink. My wife left me. And when she left me, she just told me that I hadn't amounted to anything in my life. And I was going nowhere.And I just said, get I here. Instead of appreciating that this was just like terrible. And I ran out of toilet paper and don't even get me started with what, what I did for that. And so you see someone who's worry worse off than you are on this path of life. And then something has. They discover whoever it is.That's the cult leader. And they say, now I've got this real estate firm I encouraged by, oh, by the way, all of you to come over and take a look at that at this, I couldn't believe it. My whole life. I wanted to buy a Tesla. I now have the Tesla S it's amazing. It's just so great. And I did it all because I changed the way I thought once I came in and I found this one book and the book told me, I mean, anyways, so what we try to do is we say, if you're going to have somebody come on to teach how they became a better blogger, let's not have them start over elevated where everything they do is so great that we can't relate, have them start off either relatable or worse.I couldn't write here's my grammar, mistakes. My teacher told. Right. And now what's the thing that they did. They pick them from where they were to where they are today. it's this real set of realizations. Now I want to go into that.Let's pound into them and see how many of those tips we can get. Let's learn that I want to go from where he was to where he is.[00:41:28] Nathan:Yeah, I liked that a lot. Cause my inclination would be like, okay, we're we're doing the, educational, tactical conversation. I'm going to facilitate it. Let's dive right in and let's get to the actionable stuff right away. So I like what you're saying of like, no, no, no. We need to, even though this is going to be 90% packed, full of actionable material, we need to dive in and set the stage first with the story and making it relatable.And I like it.[00:41:55] Andrew:Yeah,[00:41:55] Nathan:Oh, yeah. I was just, just in my own head for a second. Cause I say, ah, that makes sense a lot, so much so that I've had three different guests or listeners email me and say like, just don't say that makes sense as much would, now that I'm saying it on the show, I'll probably get more emails every time that I say it.Cause that's like my processing, like, oh, oh, that makes sense. As I'm thinking of the next question and all that, so[00:42:22] Andrew:I do something like that too. For me. It's IC,[00:42:25] Nathan:Everyone has to have something.[00:42:26] Andrew:I can't get rid of that and yeah.[00:42:28] Nathan:So what systems have you put in place on the research side so that you're getting this, are you doing pre-interviews forever? Yes. Are you having your[00:42:38] Andrew:Almost every single one, some of the best people in some of the best entrepreneurs on the planet, I'm surprised that they will spend an hour or do a pre-interview. And sometimes I'm too sheepish to say, I need an hour of your time and I need you to do a pre-interview. So instead of saying, I need you to do a pre-interview.I say, here's why people have done it. And I've paid for somebody to help make my guests better storytellers of their own stories. And truthfully people will go through that. Pre-interview even if they don't want to do an interview, they just need to get better at telling their story for their teams, their employees, their everyone.Right. and so I say that, and then they will take me up on the pre-interview and say, yes, I do want to do the pre-interview. and so what I try to do is I try to outline the story. Ahead of time in a set of questions. And then what we do is we scramble them up a little bit based on what we think people will tell us first and what will make them feel a little more comfortable.And then throughout the interview, I'll adjust it. So for example, no, one's going to care about the guest unless they have a challenge. No guest wants to come on and say, I'm going to tell you about what's what I really suck at or where I've really been challenged. If they do, they're going to give you a fake made up thing that they've told a million times to make themselves seem humble.So we don't ask that in the beginning. We don't even ask it in the middle. We save it till the very end. Now they've gotten some time with us. They've gotten some rapport, they trust us. Then we go into tell me about the challenges, what hasn't worked out for you. And we really let them know why tell people the higher purpose you want the audience to relate.You want them to believe you. You want them to see themselves in you, and to learn from you. We need. They tell us, and then I have it in my notes as the last section, but I use it throughout the interview. I sprinkle it. So the goal is to get the pieces that we want and in whatever order makes the most sense and then reshape it for the interview Day.[00:44:33] Nathan:So on the interview itself, you would, you would flip that and you know, okay, this is what I want to start with and, and dive in right[00:44:41] Andrew:Yup. Yup.[00:44:43] Nathan:Lose. They already told you about that. And so now, you[00:44:46] Andrew:Right,[00:44:46] Nathan:In and start with.[00:44:47] Andrew:Right. That helps. Now, if there's something I want to ask someone about that they're not comfortable with. One thing that I do is I, I tip them off. So Jason Calacanis invited me to go do, interviews with, with investors at one of his conferences. It was just a bunch of, investors. And I looked at this one guy, Jonathan tryst, and he looked really great.But he, what am I supposed to do? Ask him about what startups should do to run their businesses. He's never run a startup. His, he hadn't at that time had a successful exit. As far as I knew, like mega successful exit. He's just a really nice guy. You can tell he was going places, but that's it. And the money that he was investing came from his parents.So what is this rich parents giving their kids some money. Now he's going to tell everyone in the VC, in the startup and VC audience, how to live their lives. So I said, I'm either not going to address it, which I think most people are, or I have to find a way to address it where I'm not going to piss them off and have them just clam up on me and then go to Jason and go.This guy just is a terrible interviewer, which is not true. So what I decided to do was tip him off. I said, look, Jonathan, before we do this, before we start talking to the audience, I have to tell you, I saw it, that you don't have much of a track record as an investor. Your money came from your parents and you're not like a tech startup, like people here.If we don't talk about it, people who know it are going to think, oh, this guy, Jonathan, look, who's trying to pass him soft self off. I don't have to force it in here, but if you allow me to, I'd like to bring it up and let's talk about, and it goes, yeah, absolutely. If it's out there, I want to make sure that we address it and sure enough, we talked about it and he had a great answer.He said, no, this came from my parents. It's not my own money. I don't have as much experience as other people, but I took my parents' money. I invested it, fat parents and family and so on. We've had a good track record with it. And now have raised the second Fallon fund from outsiders who saw what I was able to do with the first one.And by the way, I may not have this mega exit as a startup investor, as a startup entrepreneur. But I did have this company that did okay. Not great. Here's what it did Here's what I learned And that's all informing me. And that's where I come from now. You've got someone talking about the, the, the thing that matters without pissing them off so much that they don't say anything else.And you feel like you feel superior as an interviewer. I got them. But in reality, you got nothing[00:46:57] Nathan:Right.[00:46:57] Andrew:Cares.[00:46:58] Nathan:I think that's a really hard line of talking about the things that are difficult and like the actual, maybe things that someone did wrong or lessons that they learned without just like barely dipping into it for a second. And I liked the format of tipping them off in like full transparency.So on this show, I had someone on who I really, really respect his name's Dickie Bush. He's one of the earlier episodes in this series and in it, he, okay. Yeah. So in that interview, one thing that I knew is that his, the first version of his course plagiarized text from another friend, Sean McCabe, actually Shaun's company edits is Podcast and all that.And I've known both of them for, for quite a while. I've known Sean for like, I dunno, six, seven years or something. And I was like, struggling with how to bring that up. And I wanted from the like founder, transparent journey, that sort of thing I wanted it brought up because I, I actually like, I'm happy to talk about like some pretty major things that I've screwed up and what I've learned from it.And I just think it makes a better conversation. And then from the interview side, I don't feel good, like doing an interview and not touching on that, but I didn't tip Dickey off to it. And I, that was one of the things that I've regretted that he gave a great answer. He talked about the lessons that he learned from it.It was really, really good, but I felt bad that I didn't set him up for the most success in like in setting up. And part of that, part of it is because even at the start of the interview, I was still wrestling with now, I'm not going to bring that up that, ah, maybe I should, it wouldn't be an authentic interview if I didn't like wrestling with that, I hadn't figured out my own, like made my own decision until we were in the middle of it.And so I didn't, I didn't set anybody up for success. And so it's an interesting line.[00:48:52] Andrew:It happens. And it seems like I'm now in the point of your transcript, where you, where you ask him, it's a 31 minutes into the interview. I think his response is great. He came in and he took responsibility for it. He says, yeah, that, that, that was a dramatic mistake, or a drastic mistake on my side and caught up in it.He wasn't the most articulate here and he'd repeated words. Like I, I, a couple of times, so I could see that he probably was uncomfortable with it. but I think his answer was great. I think, I believe that we all are broadcasting out, whether we know it or not, our intentions and where we're coming from, as some people are really good at faking it.And so I'm not going to talk about the outliers and some people are so uncomfortable that they're messing up the transmission, but for the most part almost. broadcasting our intentions. If you walk into that, Nathan, with the, I got to get him because he, he got one of my friends and I need him to finally get his comeuppance.He's going to pick up on that. And truthfully, it's such a small thing for a person like you who's, who's already a likable person. You have a lot to offer people, right? As far as like promotion and everything else, it will be forgiven, but it'll be picked up on, it's also something that people could pick up on, which is Nathan really want to know this thing.It's been bothering him for a while. And if you could, just, before you asked the question, say, where am I coming from with this? And know that the audience will mostly pick up on it. And obviously people are gonna like read in whatever they feel like, but trust that the vast majority of us understand, I think it'll work[00:50:21] Nathan:Yeah,[00:50:22] Andrew:You don't have to even tip. You don't have to tip off, but it does help. It, it definitely helps.[00:50:26] Nathan:It's interesting. I was watching an interview with, Jordan Peterson who wrote 12 rules for life. He's like a very controversial figure. And I was just often these controversies pass by, on Twitter and other places. And I realized like, oh, I don't understand them. And rather than jumping on one side or the other, at least try to like dive in a little bit and understand it.So watching this interview, and I can't remember, I think it was some major Canadian TV show or something, and that you would tell the interview was just trying to nail him it every possible chance, like whatever he said, just like dive in. And, so I think you're right, that you see the intention, like in that case, you would see the, the interview, his intention was specifically to try to trip him up in his words.And then in other cases where it's like, This is something that, you know, if you take the other approach, this is something that's been bothering me, or I want to talk about it. Like I genuinely want, you know, to ask or learn from this. It's a very different thing.[00:51:20] Andrew:I think people pick up on it. I remember you, you mentioned Seth Godin. I remember interviewing him when he wrote the book tribes back before people had online communities. And I didn't just say, okay. All our heroes, all the best entrepreneurs just run their businesses. Then don't run a tribe. I brought out books.I said, here's a book about Warren buffet. Here's the book by Sam Walton. The Walmart here's a book by Ted Turner became a multi-billionaire to creating all these, these media empires didn't have communities. They don't have tribes. And now you're telling me that in addition to my job, I also have to go and build out a tribe.It feels like, you know, an extra job. That just seems right for the social first. This just sounds right on social media and you could actually see. He's watching me as I'm saying it, and he's smiling, he's watching it because he's trying to read me, is this like what I get wrapped up? Is this going to be some kind of thing where some guy's going to try to be in the next Gawker media?Or is, is this a safe place? We're all doing that constantly. And then he also saw, okay, this is someone who really wants to understand this. And he's challenging me. I like a challenge. And you could see him smile with like, this is what I'm here for. And so I think when you come at it from a good point of view, people can see it and then you can go there and you can go there and you can go there and it will be shocking to you and them and the audience, how far you go. But when you're coming from that genuine place, they get, they get it.They want it.[00:52:44] Nathan:Yeah, that's good.I want to talk about longevity in like the online world. I think that so many people that I started following in say 2007, 2008, nine, and then I didn't start creating myself until 2011. most of them aren't around anymore. Like a lot of the big blogs, Yeah, just so many that I can think of.They're not around anymore. They're not doing this. You're at a point where like you started messaging in some form in what? 20, sorry, 2004 to somewhere in there and then interviews.[00:53:17] Andrew:Yeah, I keep saying 16. It's like, yeah. 2004 is when I started the interview started 2007 ish somewhere there. Give or take a year. yeah, long. I, I will say that there are parts of my work that I am burned out on right now. This year has been that, but I'm not on the interview. And the reason I'm not is because I do enjoy conversations.I hated them for a long time in my life because I just didn't know how to have them, how to have it make sense. I also didn't give myself permission to take the conversation where I wanted it to go. And it helps now to say, I can talk to anyone about anything. That's an opportunity that, that feels fun because I know how to do it.It's an opportunity to, it feels like, like, you know how everyone's so happy. You can go to YouTube and you could get the answer to anything. Well, I could go to anybody and I could get the answer to anything and talk about how they didn't have a customized to me, YouTube, not customized thing to me, I'm watching Gotham chess on YouTube.He's teaching me how to play chess, but he will not customize to the fact that every time I get into a car con defense, all the pieces like bunched over to my side. But if he and I did an interview, or if I do an interview with an tomorrow's entrepreneur, it's going to be about, here's the thing I'm trying to deal with.How did you get past that? Talk to me about what you're up to there.[00:54:31] Nathan:Yeah, that's definitely energizing. Okay. But what are the things that you're burnt out on? Because I think a lot of people are seeing that burnout. And so I guess first, what are you burned out on? And then second, we can go from there into like, what are you changing and how are you managing.[00:54:46] Andrew:I'm burned out on parts of the business behind, behind Mixergy I'm burned out on. I was aspiring to like unbelievable greatness with the, with the course part of it, with the courses, it didn't get there and I'm tired of trying to make it into this thing. That's going to be super big. I'm tired of that.[00:55:10] Nathan:His greatness there, like linda.com? Like what, what was that?[00:55:15] Andrew:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Yeah. She was one of my first interviewees and, and so yeah, I saw the model there and I am frustrated that I didn't get to that and I, I don't have a beat myself up type a perso

How Long Gone
251. - Leah Finnegan

How Long Gone

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 20, 2021 65:35


Leah Finnegan is the editor in chief at Gawker, we spoke with her in New York while we're on the road in Austin. We chat about Texas travels, Travis Barker popping the question, Scott Disick's income, RIP Colin Powell, why Leah doesn't listen to podcasts, how editing a website is so much more than pressing the “publish” button, the devolution of Deux Moi, living with a height disorder, how she developed her leathery thick skin by constantly being fired, stay at home mom lifestyle, a rundown of our favorite sweets, Chrissy Teigen stuff, how websites work, and which member of the Succession cast Leah has a crush on. twitter.com/leahfinnegan twitter.com/donetodeath twitter.com/themjeans --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/howlonggone/support

Modern Minorities
Phil Yu (isn't always) the Angry Asian Man

Modern Minorities

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 18, 2021 46:28


“You have to choose to become Asian American. I went from just being a Korean kid in Silicon Valley to belonging to this community. I want that to mean something.” Phil Yu is best known for AngryAsianMan.com - THE website about Asian American perspectives. But he's really not as angry as people think? Phil's a writer, speaker, and host. AngryAsianMan.com is one of the most widely read / longest-running sites covering news, culture, and perspectives from the Asian American community. Phil ALSO hosts the podcasts “They Call Us Bruce” and “All The Asians On Star Trek” (a new personal favorite). And in January 2022, Phil's book “RISE: A Pop History of Asian American from the Nineties to Now” comes out. Phil's been featured in The NY Times, NPR, the LA Time, CNN, WaPo, Gawker, and more. He's won awards for his work AND worked in documentaries, film commentaries, and web series. Honestly, Phil's been the guest we've wanted since we started our podcast, as he is one of the reasons why we do what we do. Phil was doing this before most of us, and continues to trailblaze for the rest of us. AND he's a total nerd that wants to change the world, one angry word at a time... LEARN ABOUT PHIL AngryAsianMan.com instagram.com/angryasianman twitter.com/angryasianman Podcast: theycallusbruce.libsyn.com Podcast: alltheasiansonstartrek.com Forbes: The Future Of Telling Asian American Stories: An Interview With Angry Asian Man MENTIONS FILM: Who Killed Vincent Chin? (1987): imdb.com/title/tt0096440 A&F Wong Bros racist t-shirt: news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1938914.stm --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/modern-minorities/support

The Bunker
Daily: Supervillain Billionaire – Peter Thiel wants to reshape the world

The Bunker

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 13, 2021 27:57


Enigmatic Californian tech investor and libertarian Peter Thiel is best known for his controversial ‘spy tech' company Palantir and for enabling Hulk Hogan to sue gossip site Gawker out of business. But as new book The Contrarian shows, Thiel has always had bigger ambitions to use tech to sideline government itself. Author Max Chafkin tells Andrew Harrison about the Randian ideas that propelled Thiel from the “Paypal Mafia” to Trump's White House – and why we should worry about ‘Thielism'.“Thiel is both a superhero and supervillain, like Ayn Rand crossed with… Ayn Rand.” “Thiel is the one person aside from Mark Zuckerberg who is responsible for Facebook's success.”“He named Palantir after this all-seeing orb from Lord of the Rings. And Sauron is not the good guy.”Presented and produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Een Podcast over Media
S07E01 - Mis dit niet! De Pfauthe Voordeelklöpping

Een Podcast over Media

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 8, 2021 68:36


Och och och lieve luisteraar. We beginnen seizoen zeven met een KNALLER van een aflevering, al zeggen we het zelf. Alexander is terug van zijn sabbatical en heeft in de tussentijd niet stilgezeten wat POM betreft. Eindelijk komt zijn droom in vervulling van een eigen promotioneel kansspel. Met trots lanceren wij: de Pfauthe Voordeelklöpping. Een club waarmee je fantastische prijzen kunt winnen (hogedrukreiniger, anyone?) Uiteraard introduceert Alexander dit onder begeleiding van passende stockmuziek. Ernst-Jan heeft ook nog wat te melden. Hij reflecteert op de interviewlessen die hij heeft geleerd van zijn Jonge Jaren-uitstapje en beantwoordt jullie vragen over zijn vertrek bij De Correspondent.

Commonwealth Club of California Podcast
Max Chafkin: Peter Thiel and the Pursuit of Power in Silicon Valley

Commonwealth Club of California Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2021 63:29


Over the past two decades, no industry has had a greater impact on the world than the tech industry, born and bred in California's Silicon Valley. And perhaps few individuals have done more to shape Silicon Valley than the enigmatic tech investor and entrepreneur, Peter Thiel. The billionaire venture capitalist and tech leader has been a behind-the-scenes operator influencing the tech industry and countless aspects of our contemporary way of life, from the technologies we use every day to the delicate power balance between Silicon Valley, Wall Street and Washington, particularly during the Trump administration. But despite his power, no public figure might be quite so mysterious as Thiel. In the first major biography of Thiel, reporter Max Chafkin traces the trajectory of Thiel's singular life and worldview, from his upbringing as the child of immigrant parents and years at Stanford as a burgeoning conservative thinker to his founding of PayPal and Palantir, early investments in Facebook and SpaceX, and relationships with fellow tech titans Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk and Eric Schmidt. Chafkin's book, The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley's Pursuit of Power, explores the extent to which Thiel has sought to have influence far beyond California's tech industry, including funding the lawsuit that destroyed the blog Gawker and supporting conservative political candidates, including Donald Trump in 2016. To understand Silicon Valley and its impact, particularly on American political and civic life, an understanding of Thiel is a critical piece of the puzzle. Please join us for an important discussion on this critical player in the tech industry and American life. The discussion will be led by Brad Stone, best known for chronicling another enigmatic tech mogul, Amazon's Jeff Bezos. SPEAKERS Max Chafkin Features Editor and Technology Reporter, Bloomberg Businessweek; Author, The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley's Pursuit of Power Brad Stone Senior Executive Editor, Global Technology, Bloomberg News; Author, Amazon Unbound: Jeff Bezos and the Invention of a Global Empire In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, we are currently hosting all of our live programming via YouTube live stream. This program was recorded via video conference on September 27th, 2021 by the Commonwealth Club of California. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Commonwealth Club of California Podcast
Max Chafkin: Peter Thiel and the Pursuit of Power in Silicon Valley

Commonwealth Club of California Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2021 64:29


Over the past two decades, no industry has had a greater impact on the world than the tech industry, born and bred in California's Silicon Valley. And perhaps few individuals have done more to shape Silicon Valley than the enigmatic tech investor and entrepreneur, Peter Thiel. The billionaire venture capitalist and tech leader has been a behind-the-scenes operator influencing the tech industry and countless aspects of our contemporary way of life, from the technologies we use every day to the delicate power balance between Silicon Valley, Wall Street and Washington, particularly during the Trump administration. But despite his power, no public figure might be quite so mysterious as Thiel. In the first major biography of Thiel, reporter Max Chafkin traces the trajectory of Thiel's singular life and worldview, from his upbringing as the child of immigrant parents and years at Stanford as a burgeoning conservative thinker to his founding of PayPal and Palantir, early investments in Facebook and SpaceX, and relationships with fellow tech titans Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk and Eric Schmidt. Chafkin's book, The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley's Pursuit of Power, explores the extent to which Thiel has sought to have influence far beyond California's tech industry, including funding the lawsuit that destroyed the blog Gawker and supporting conservative political candidates, including Donald Trump in 2016. To understand Silicon Valley and its impact, particularly on American political and civic life, an understanding of Thiel is a critical piece of the puzzle. Please join us for an important discussion on this critical player in the tech industry and American life. The discussion will be led by Brad Stone, best known for chronicling another enigmatic tech mogul, Amazon's Jeff Bezos. SPEAKERS Max Chafkin Features Editor and Technology Reporter, Bloomberg Businessweek; Author, The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley's Pursuit of Power Brad Stone Senior Executive Editor, Global Technology, Bloomberg News; Author, Amazon Unbound: Jeff Bezos and the Invention of a Global Empire In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, we are currently hosting all of our live programming via YouTube live stream. This program was recorded via video conference on September 27th, 2021 by the Commonwealth Club of California. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Digiday Podcast
HuffPost's Danielle Belton sees the editor-in-chief role as being ‘newsroom therapist'

The Digiday Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 5, 2021 40:52


When Danielle Belton started as HuffPost's editor-in-chief in April, she stepped into a newsroom that had spent a year in tumult. In addition to the trials of covering and living through the pandemic, the news outlet's staff had gone through a sale from Verizon Media to BuzzFeed that eventually led to 70 HuffPost employees being laid off. And all the while, the newsroom had been without a leader. “They went so long without an editor-in-chief. The fact that there was going to be one put into place and that they were going to have their own leader independent of BuzzFeed and BuzzFeed News meant a lot. I felt like the reaction I got was actually more warm than anything else. And one of relief,” Belton said in the latest episode of the Digiday Podcast, which was recorded live during the Digiday Publishing Summit on Sept. 27 in Miami. Of course, Belton's appointment alone wouldn't instantaneously alleviate all stress and anxiety among HuffPost's staff. That's why the former editor-in-chief of G/O Media's The Root sees her role as being the outlet's “newsroom therapist.” It's a role she has found herself playing since she started working in journalism and spent time roaming newsrooms where she has worked to check in with other staffers. “I used to tell my bosses, ‘You guys should just pay me to be the newsroom therapist. I can just talk to everybody all day and listen to their problems and help them figure out how to solve them and help them with their stories. And that's basically what I'm doing now. I'm the newsroom therapist,” Belton said. This episode is the final in a four-part series for the Digiday Podcast called “The Modern Newsroom Leader,” featuring editors-in-chief as they navigate new industry challenges including staffers dealing with burnout, unsteady financial businesses and prioritizing diversity, equity and inclusion in hiring practices. Previous episodes featured The Cut's Lindsay Peoples Wagner and Vox's Swati Sharma, Houston Chronicle's Maria Reeve and Gawker's Leah Finnegan.

The Majority Report with Sam Seder
2688 - Peter Thiel's Cult Of Personality And The Introduction Of A Postal Banking Pilot Program w/ Max Chafkin & David Dayen

The Majority Report with Sam Seder

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 4, 2021 78:53


Sam and Emma host Max Chafkin, features editor and writer at Bloomberg BusinessWeek, to discuss his recent book The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley's Pursuit of Power. Sam and Emma start off by taking a look at Kyrsten Sinema's interaction with organizers from LUCHA Arizona before she went to hide in a restroom, as opposed to engaging with them directly, as well as the disparity between the outraged reaction to the video and the video itself. Sam and Emma are then joined by Max to discuss Peter Thiel, the "contrarian posture" that's animated his life and his investments, as well as how that informed his interactions with Gawker, Facebook, and PayPal. Max discusses whether Thiel should be considered a "good investor", despite betting against the future, leaning in so far into his contrarian sensibilities that he accurately predicted the 2008 financial crash but botched his hedge fund investments afterwards, leading directly in to him transitioning the fund into a family office, as well as directly into his conflict and legal action with Hulk Hogan against Gawker. Max then details Thiel's "small" nest egg of $1 million that served as the basis for his wealth acquisition, as well as his appetite for competition when it serves him, as well as his absolute distaste for it when it doesn't. They then dive into Thiel's relationship with former President Trump, as well as his pet project of railing against "PC culture", a phenomena that he believes is the animating force of American politics. They then end on Thiel's interactions and partnerships with Glenn Greenwald (who, in fact, Thiel's company Palantir spied on years ago), JD Vance, and the new social media platform Rumble, and how Thiel's investments in these people and companies are symbolic, and that one can draw real comparison to Thiel's political project and that of the Koch brothers: transforming a section of the Republican Party through significant financial investment. Sam and Emma are then joined by David Dayen, executive editor at The American Prospect, to discuss his recent scoop "USPS Begins Postal Banking Pilot Program" as well as his report from last Friday "The Progressive Caucus Wields Power". David begins by outlining the parameters of this new postal banking pilot program through USPS, and how, if fully implemented, this program could significantly aid "unbanked" and "underbanked" people who fall prey to predatory banking schemes as a result of a lack of access to financial services. He goes on to explain the uneasy peace between Trump USPS holdover Louis DeJoy and the USPS union, who, on this one particular issue, are aligned on working toward implementation for its potential for revenue growth for the USPS (DeJoy's interest), as well as for expanding the services of USPS to people who really need them (the union's interest). David then explains whether further implementation will require additional Congressional approval (maybe so, maybe not), how Biden should prioritize a pro-postal banking advocate for a Board of Governors vacancy that remains, the Congressional support this policy already has, and what full implementation would really look in the long term. Sam, Emma, and David end on their discussion of the Progressive Caucus showing its might in blocking the bipartisan infrastructure bill from going to a vote away from the two track structure, the history of the CPC when it was a 6-person working group started by a young anonymous backbencher named Bernie Sanders (I-VT), Pramila Jayapal's ascendance in the ranks of the CPC leading to its growing power, and whether more of these stands may result in the future as a result of this one's success. And in the Fun Half, Sam and Emma correct the record on Senator Blumenthal's Finsta flub from Thursday, and propose that the next Big Tech "disruption" should be these companies being broken up by the government. They then check in on the Facebook whistleblower report from 60 Minutes last night, Nick Clegg being referred to as a "tobacco executive" on CNN by Brian Stelter (which he tries extremely hard to differentiate from, with middling results), Fox and Friends's incredible concern about the labor shortage before Christmas (it's October! Steve Doocy can't get his favorite coffee! A fate worse than death!), and the MR crew ends the day by taking a time machine to 2010 to see what Kyrsten Sinema's thoughts on reconciliation and the filibuster were then (Different!) Plus, your calls and IM's! Become a member at JoinTheMajorityReport.com Subscribe to the AMQuickie newsletter here. Join the Majority Report Discord! http://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ (Merch issues and concerns can be addressed here: majorityreportstore@mirrorimage.com) You can now watch the livestream on Twitch Check out today's sponsors: Grove: Companies around the world produce two billion pounds of new plastic every day. Yet no matter how much we put in our recycling bin, just nine percent of plastic actually gets recycled. At Grove Collaborative, they believe it's time to stop making single-use plastic. Grove is the online marketplace that delivers healthy home, beauty, and personal care products directly to you! It takes the guesswork out of going green — Every product is guaranteed to be good for you, your family, your home, and the planet. Choosing products that are better for you AND the planet has never been easier. 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Reset
The rise of a Silicon Valley supervillain

Reset

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 30, 2021 15:31


Peter Thiel has worn many hats over the years: He co-founded PayPal, helped fund Facebook, and brought about Gawker's demise. He was also one of Donald Trump's biggest advocates. How did Thiel gain so much power? Bloomberg's Max Chafkin (@chafkin) explains. References:  Listen to Peter Kafka's full interview with Max Chafkin here  Enjoy this episode? Rate Recode Daily ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ and leave a review on Apple Podcasts.   What do you want to learn about on Recode Daily? Send your requests and questions to recodedaily@recode.net. We read every email!    Subscribe for free. Be the first to hear the next episode of Recode Daily by subscribing in your favorite podcast app.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Recode Daily is made by:  Host: Adam Clark Estes (@adamclarkestes) Producer: Alan Rodriguez Espinoza (@ardzes) Engineer: Paul Robert Mounsey   Recode Media is made by:  Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka) Producer: Jelani Carter Editor: Joel Raabe Support Recode Daily by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Digiday Podcast
‘It's not going to be nice': Leah Finnegan is rebuilding Gawker with her editorial vision front and center

The Digiday Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2021 37:27


When the bankrupt Gawker shut its doors in 2016, it seemed unlikely that the site known for snarky opinions, celebrity gossip and haughty critiques would return. But rumblings of the site's return — and its snippy attitude — came in July 2018 when BDG CEO Bryan Goldberg paid just under $1.5 million for the defunct website. Three years later, Gawker is back up and running (after an initial false start with a different cast of characters) under editor-in-chief Leah Finnegan. Her work is cut out for her: “[Gawker is] such a loaded place and the time I was there was so dramatic and tumultuous. It was an earlier iteration of the way digital media worked and I didn't want to go back to that Gawker,” said Finnegan. This is the third episode of a four-part series called “The Modern Newsroom Leader,” which features newly appointed editors-in-chief as they navigate industry challenges including staffers dealing with burnout, unsteady financial businesses and prioritizing diversity, equity and inclusion in hiring practices.

DOOMED with Matt Binder
185: Peter Thiel, The Contrarian (w/ Max Chafkin)

DOOMED with Matt Binder

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2021 74:34


Max Chafkin, author and features editor at Bloomberg BusinessWeek joins DOOMED with Matt Binder to discuss his new book THE CONTRARIAN: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley's Pursuit of Power. We discuss Thiel's early life, his founding PayPal and Palantir, his "libertarian" stage, his role as a major Trump backer, his revenge on Gawker, his funding of Rumble, what drives him and the future of his backing Republican candidates and much more! On the patron half of the show: Bill Gates' bizarre interview on Epstein, Jimmy Dore and his cohorts continue to get Nina Turner's loss wrong, your calls, questions, comments and more! (Episode from the 9/22/21 livestream show.) Support the show: http://www.patreon.com/mattbinder

Blocked and Reported
Historically, The Anatomy And Physiology Of Bodies With Vaginas Has Been Neglected

Blocked and Reported

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 27, 2021 62:59


An update on Katie's face, Catie's Correction Corner, the world's only black nonbinary conservative, the bizarre newspeak pertaining to females being embraced by major liberal institutions, personals, and Ellen Pao's very strange New York Times op-ed about Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos. Show notes/Links: Full, correct context for Daniel Lavery criticizing someone for reporting a home break-in: https://www.reddit.com/r/DearPrudence/comments/lzge8x/comment/gqdp0vz (https://www.reddit.com/r/DearPrudence/comments/lzge8x/comment/gqdp0vz) Troubled Daily Beast piece about Carson Griffith: https://www.thedailybeast.com/gawker-writers-quit-over-editorial-director-carson-griffiths-offensive-tweets-workplace-comments (https://www.thedailybeast.com/gawker-writers-quit-over-editorial-director-carson-griffiths-offensive-tweets-workplace-comments) The articles notes in its subhed: “The new site's only two full-time writers exited Wednesday in protest of editorial director Carson Griffith's offensive remarks about everything from race to penis size.” There is no subsequent explanation of the claim that Griffith made an “offensive remark” about penis size — instead, she forwarded an email thread in which other people were joking about someone's penis size, but which also contained information pertinent to a potential story idea. Tani writes: “Kosoff additionally told HR of an exchange in which Griffith took a dismissive stance towards the recruiting of a writer who identifies as non-binary. Kosoff, who was tasked with recruiting some new editorial staff, wrote in a Slack message that she was going to meet with a potential staffer ‘who is a person of color and nonbinary (uses they/them pronouns).' When she returned from the meeting two hours later, Griffith initially laughed off the preferred pronouns. ‘lol is [name redacted] a girl?' Griffith asked.” But Slack logs included in Griffith's complaint show that when Griffith said that, it wasn't in the context of responding to this individual being nonbinary, but was rather simply a question about their sex/pronouns: https://postimg.cc/yJwcRZ6k (https://postimg.cc/yJwcRZ6k) Now, this screenshot doesn't include the mention of “who is a person of color and nonbinary (uses they/them pronouns),” so it's unclear when that was said. But there's no evidence, within this excerpt, of Griffith responding directly to the applicant being nonbinary. Tani writes: “The two reporters also relayed to human-resources instances in which they believed Griffith—who holds a management role at the site—expressed an uncomfortably negative attitude on issues related to workplace diversity. In a Slack message reviewed by The Daily Beast, Griffith seemed to brag to Gawker staff that she had gotten them out of a company-wide diversity training session, though neither Kosoff nor Breslaw had asked her to do so. The two ended up attending.” Griffith claims she did not know this was a diversity meaning, and sure enough in the Slack log in question there is no mention of that aspect of it — she simply says she got them out of most of a long meeting that had been blocked off on their calendar (apologies for low quality): https://postimg.cc/PvqDsz2V/483230fa (https://postimg.cc/PvqDsz2V/483230fa) ACLU tweet: https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1439259891064004610 (https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1439259891064004610) Interview in The Atlantic in which Emma Green asks the ACLU's Louise Melling about language like “pregnant people”: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/09/pregnant-people-gender-identity/620031/ (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/09/pregnant-people-gender-identity/620031/) AOC on AC360 (note that she uses “menstruating person,” not ‘menstruator' as Jesse says in the show): https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/09/08/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-texas-abbott-abortion-ban-ac360-intv-sot-vpx.cnn (https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/09/08/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-texas-abbott-abortion-ban-ac360-intv-sot-vpx.cnn) Transcript: https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/acd/date/2021-09-07/segment/01 (https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/acd/date/2021-09-07/segment/01) Lancet tweet/cover: https://twitter.com/TheLancet/status/1441372277786951681 (https://twitter.com/TheLancet/status/1441372277786951681) Who Ellen Pao is: https://www.thecut.com/2017/08/ellen-pao-silicon-valley-sexism-reset-excerpt.html (https://www.thecut.com/2017/08/ellen-pao-silicon-valley-sexism-reset-excerpt.html) Her complicated departure: https://www.vox.com/2015/7/10/11614622/pao-out-as-reddit-ceo-co-founder-huffman-takes-over (https://www.vox.com/2015/7/10/11614622/pao-out-as-reddit-ceo-co-founder-huffman-takes-over) “The Perverse Incentives That Help Incels Thrive in Tech”: https://twitter.com/ekp/status/991817194987114496 (https://twitter.com/ekp/status/991817194987114496) Even crazier: https://www.wired.com/story/ellen-pao-the-perverse-incentives-that-help-incels-thrive-in-tech/ (https://www.wired.com/story/ellen-pao-the-perverse-incentives-that-help-incels-thrive-in-tech/) Her crazy NYT article: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/15/opinion/elizabeth-holmes-trial-sexism.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/15/opinion/elizabeth-holmes-trial-sexism.html) Actual information about what Holmes did: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/16/podcasts/the-daily/elizabeth-holmes-trial-theranos-silicon-valley.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/16/podcasts/the-daily/elizabeth-holmes-trial-theranos-silicon-valley.html) DoJ release noting she was was indicted alongside Ramesh “Sunny” Balwani who is very much male!): https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/theranos-founder-and-former-chief-operating-officer-charged-alleged-wire-fraud-schemes (https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/theranos-founder-and-former-chief-operating-officer-charged-alleged-wire-fraud-schemes) Tom Cotton op-ed: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/opinion/tom-cotton-protests-military.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/opinion/tom-cotton-protests-military.html)

Nostalgia Trap
Nostalgia Trap - Episode 294: The Contrarian w/ Max Chafkin

Nostalgia Trap

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 26, 2021 65:23


Max Chafkin is an editor at Bloomberg Businessweek whose new book, The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley's Pursuit of Power tells the unbelievable true story of Peter Thiel's rise to power through strategic investment and control over massive tech firms. From his assassination of Gawker (remember the Hulk Hogan lawsuit? Thiel funded it.) to his manipulation of Mark Zuckerberg and the Facebook algorithm, Thiel has emerged as an enigmatic, arguably sinister force in American politics and media. Who is this guy? And what is the endgame?

Blocked and Reported
Episode 83: Historically, The Anatomy And Physiology Of Bodies With Vaginas Has Been Neglected (early access, ad-free)

Blocked and Reported

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 25, 2021


(Apologies -- initially uploaded this with the wrong episode number/URL, so here's a corrected redo.)An update on Katie's face, Catie's Correction Corner, the world's only black nonbinary conservative, the bizarre newspeak pertaining to females being embraced by major liberal institutions, personals, and Ellen Pao's very strange New York Times op-ed about Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos.Show notes/Links:Full, correct context for Daniel Lavery criticizing someone for reporting a home break-in: https://www.reddit.com/r/DearPrudence/comments/lzge8x/comment/gqdp0vzTroubled Daily Beast piece about Carson Griffith: https://www.thedailybeast.com/gawker-writers-quit-over-editorial-director-carson-griffiths-offensive-tweets-workplace-commentsThe articles notes in its subhed: “The new site’s only two full-time writers exited Wednesday in protest of editorial director Carson Griffith’s offensive remarks about everything from race to penis size.”There is no subsequent explanation of the claim that Griffith made an “offensive remark” about penis size — instead, she forwarded an email thread in which other people were joking about someone’s penis size, but which also contained information pertinent to a potential story idea.Tani writes: “Kosoff additionally told HR of an exchange in which Griffith took a dismissive stance towards the recruiting of a writer who identifies as non-binary. Kosoff, who was tasked with recruiting some new editorial staff, wrote in a Slack message that she was going to meet with a potential staffer ‘who is a person of color and nonbinary (uses they/them pronouns).’ When she returned from the meeting two hours later, Griffith initially laughed off the preferred pronouns. ‘lol is [name redacted] a girl?’ Griffith asked.”  But Slack logs included in Griffith’s complaint show that when Griffith said that, it wasn’t in the context of responding to this individual being nonbinary, but was rather simply a question about their sex/pronouns: https://postimg.cc/yJwcRZ6kNow, this screenshot doesn’t include the mention of “who is a person of color and nonbinary (uses they/them pronouns),” so it’s unclear when that was said. But there’s no evidence, within this excerpt, of Griffith responding directly to the applicant being nonbinary.Tani writes: “The two reporters also relayed to human-resources instances in which they believed Griffith—who holds a management role at the site—expressed an uncomfortably negative attitude on issues related to workplace diversity. In a Slack message reviewed by The Daily Beast, Griffith seemed to brag to Gawker staff that she had gotten them out of a company-wide diversity training session, though neither Kosoff nor Breslaw had asked her to do so. The two ended up attending.”Griffith claims she did not know this was a diversity meaning, and sure enough in the Slack log in question there is no mention of that aspect of it — she simply says she got them out of most of a long meeting that had been blocked off on their calendar (apologies for low quality): https://postimg.cc/PvqDsz2V/483230faACLU tweet: https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1439259891064004610Interview in The Atlantic in which Emma Green asks the ACLU’s Louise Melling about language like “pregnant people”: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/09/pregnant-people-gender-identity/620031/AOC on AC360 (note that she uses “menstruating person,” not ‘menstruator’ as Jesse says in the show): https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/09/08/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-texas-abbott-abortion-ban-ac360-intv-sot-vpx.cnnTranscript: https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/acd/date/2021-09-07/segment/01Lancet tweet/cover: https://twitter.com/TheLancet/status/1441372277786951681Who Ellen Pao is: https://www.thecut.com/2017/08/ellen-pao-silicon-valley-sexism-reset-excerpt.htmlHer complicated departure: https://www.vox.com/2015/7/10/11614622/pao-out-as-reddit-ceo-co-founder-huffman-takes-over“The Perverse Incentives That Help Incels Thrive in Tech”: https://twitter.com/ekp/status/991817194987114496 Even crazier: https://www.wired.com/story/ellen-pao-the-perverse-incentives-that-help-incels-thrive-in-tech/ Her crazy NYT article: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/15/opinion/elizabeth-holmes-trial-sexism.htmlActual information about what Holmes did: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/16/podcasts/the-daily/elizabeth-holmes-trial-theranos-silicon-valley.htmlDoJ release noting she was was indicted alongside Ramesh “Sunny” Balwani who is very much male!): https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/theranos-founder-and-former-chief-operating-officer-charged-alleged-wire-fraud-schemesTom Cotton op-ed: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/opinion/tom-cotton-protests-military.html This is a public episode. Get access to private episodes at www.blockedandreported.org/subscribe

Reply Guys
Fact-Checking Julia with George Civeris

Reply Guys

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 23, 2021 40:08


This week Julia is joined by comedian George Civeris, Features editor for (the new) Gawker and co-host of Straightiolab. Follow George on Twitter: https://twitter.com/georgeciveris Julia and Kate can be found at @OhJuliaTweets and @KateWillett Hosts: Kate Willett and Julia Claire Producer: Genevieve Gearity Theme Song: Emily Frembgen and Kate Willett Artwork: Adrienne Lobl

Recode Media with Peter Kafka
How Peter Thiel went from Silicon Valley to The White House with Max Chafkin

Recode Media with Peter Kafka

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 23, 2021 55:54


Peter Thiel used to be a Silicon Valley investor best-known for early investment in Facebook. But in recent years he seems to have shifted into something different: A Trump-supporting billionaire who wants to remake American politics - and someone who nursed a years-long grudge against Gawker and ultimately bankrupted the publisher and its owner. Bloomberg's Max Chafkin details Thiel's story in his new book The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley's Pursuit of Power; he talks about what animates Thiel, and why he thinks we'll be hearing from him and about him for a long time. Then Vox Media's Joe Posner joins to talk about making videos for YouTube, Netflix, and HBO which is now airing his newest show: Level Playing Field. Featuring: Max Chafkin (@chafkin), Author and Bloomberg reporter Joe Posner (@joeposner), of Vox Video Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape. About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Chris Voss Show
The Chris Voss Show Podcast – The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley’s Pursuit of Power by Max Chafkin

The Chris Voss Show

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2021 43:45


The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley's Pursuit of Power by Max Chafkin A biography of venture capitalist and entrepreneur Peter Thiel, the enigmatic, controversial, and hugely influential power broker who sits at the dynamic intersection of tech, business, and politics “Max Chafkin's The Contrarian is much more than a consistently shocking biography of Peter Thiel, the most important investor in tech and a key supporter of the Donald Trump presidency. It's also a disturbing history of Silicon Valley that will make you reconsider the ideological foundations of America's relentless engine of creative destruction.”—Brad Stone, author of The Everything Store and Amazon Unbound Since the days of the dot-com bubble in the late 1990s, no industry has made a greater impact on the world than Silicon Valley. And few individuals have done more to shape Silicon Valley than Peter Thiel. The billionaire venture capitalist and entrepreneur has been a behind-the-scenes operator influencing countless aspects of our contemporary way of life, from the technologies we use every day to the delicate power balance between Silicon Valley, Wall Street, and Washington. But despite his power and the ubiquity of his projects, no public figure is quite so mysterious. In the first major biography of Thiel, Max Chafkin traces the trajectory of the innovator's singular life and worldview, from his upbringing as the child of immigrant parents and years at Stanford as a burgeoning conservative thought leader to his founding of PayPal and Palantir, early investment in Facebook and SpaceX, and relationships with fellow tech titans Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, and Eric Schmidt. The Contrarian illuminates the extent to which Thiel has sought to export his values to the corridors of power beyond Silicon Valley, including funding the lawsuit that destroyed the blog Gawker and strenuously backing far-right political candidates, notably Donald Trump for president in 2016. Eye-opening and deeply reported, The Contrarian is a revelatory biography of a one-of-a-kind leader and an incisive portrait of a tech industry whose explosive growth and power is both thrilling and fraught with controversy.

Fresh Air
Who Is Tech Billionaire & 'Contrarian' Peter Thiel?

Fresh Air

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 21, 2021 46:00


Peter Thiel co-founded PayPal, invested early in Facebook, secretly funded the Hulk Hogan lawsuit that put the website Gawker out of business, and put more than a million dollars into Trump's campaign just after the appearance of the 'Access Hollywood' tapes. Thiel is also known for his interest in some unusual ideas, like independent city-states that float on the ocean, free from oppressive governments. We talk with 'Bloomsberg Businessweek' tech reporter Max Chafkin about his book on Thiel, 'The Contrarian.'Also, critic David Bianculli reviews two remakes of classic TV shows, 'The Wonder Years' and 'Scenes from a Marriage.'

Fresh Air
Who Is Tech Billionaire & 'Contrarian' Peter Thiel?

Fresh Air

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 21, 2021 46:00


Peter Thiel co-founded PayPal, invested early in Facebook, secretly funded the Hulk Hogan lawsuit that put the website Gawker out of business, and put more than a million dollars into Trump's campaign just after the appearance of the 'Access Hollywood' tapes. Thiel is also known for his interest in some unusual ideas, like independent city-states that float on the ocean, free from oppressive governments. We talk with 'Bloomsberg Businessweek' tech reporter Max Chafkin about his book on Thiel, 'The Contrarian.'Also, critic David Bianculli reviews two remakes of classic TV shows, 'The Wonder Years' and 'Scenes from a Marriage.'

Blocked and Reported
Dear Prudence, Help! I Can't Stop Pretending To Be A Texas Abortion Bounty Hunter Online

Blocked and Reported

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 20, 2021 59:13


Jesse vents about some super serious drama going on with his dad, who doesn't respect his career choices, Katie talks about a delightful Gawker article about a Dear Prudence fakester, some personals go down (from about 29:30 - 36:15), and Jesse runs down his interview with a gleefully unapologetic troll whose chaos-generating online forum seized control of the Texas abortion conversation. Show notes/Links: The Prudie fakester: https://www.gawker.com/media/dear-prudie-it-was-me-all-along (https://www.gawker.com/media/dear-prudie-it-was-me-all-along) Help! My Friend Thinks I Am Stealing Vaccines From African-American Grandmothers To Attend Sex Resorts: https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/03/dear-prudence-daughter-girlfriend-armed-robbery-murder.html (https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/03/dear-prudence-daughter-girlfriend-armed-robbery-murder.html) Help! My Husband and I Can't Agree On What To Name the Baby We Might Get!: https://slate.com/human-interest/2019/11/having-sex-with-nephew-advice.html (https://slate.com/human-interest/2019/11/having-sex-with-nephew-advice.html) My Daughter Is Pretending to Be Demonically Possessed… and I Can't Take It Anymore!: https://slate.com/podcasts/dear-prudence/2020/07/is-it-weird-to-love-giving-gifts-all-the-time-dear-prudence-podcast (https://slate.com/podcasts/dear-prudence/2020/07/is-it-weird-to-love-giving-gifts-all-the-time-dear-prudence-podcast) Previous BARPod coverage of Prudie: https://barpodcast.fireside.fm/71 (https://barpodcast.fireside.fm/71) The Goose Post: https://www.thechatner.com/p/i-am-the-horrible-goose-that-lives (https://www.thechatner.com/p/i-am-the-horrible-goose-that-lives) Fox News on the sex-masking study: https://www.foxnews.com/health/couples-face-masks-sex-study (https://www.foxnews.com/health/couples-face-masks-sex-study) Texas's insane new abortion law: https://legiscan.com/TX/text/SB8/id/2395961 (https://legiscan.com/TX/text/SB8/id/2395961) After our show went up, our tipster pointed out that he had already done a post about this -- we would have credited him had we known at the time!: https://tracingwoodgrains.medium.com/how-one-tight-knit-circle-of-internet-troublemakers-convinced-professional-journalists-they-were-ac05459aa4c5 (https://tracingwoodgrains.medium.com/how-one-tight-knit-circle-of-internet-troublemakers-convinced-professional-journalists-they-were-ac05459aa4c5) “Random strangers can sue any 'abettor' to an abortion anywhere in Texas and collect a minimum of $10,000, plus attorneys' fees”: https://slate.com/podcasts/dear-prudence/2020/07/is-it-weird-to-love-giving-gifts-all-the-time-dear-prudence-podcast (https://slate.com/podcasts/dear-prudence/2020/07/is-it-weird-to-love-giving-gifts-all-the-time-dear-prudence-podcast) "Reddit Bans Abortion Bounty Hunter Forum": https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg83bg/reddit-bans-abortion-bounty-hunter-forum (https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg83bg/reddit-bans-abortion-bounty-hunter-forum) And Insider: https://www.businessinsider.com/reddit-shuts-down-forum-for-texas-abortion-bounty-hunters-2021-9 (https://www.businessinsider.com/reddit-shuts-down-forum-for-texas-abortion-bounty-hunters-2021-9) Kendall Brown tweet: https://twitter.com/kendallybrown/status/1433588701385400327 (https://twitter.com/kendallybrown/status/1433588701385400327) Steve Silberman: https://twitter.com/stevesilberman/status/1434223870035169282 (https://twitter.com/stevesilberman/status/1434223870035169282) "Hey Gunslingers come join us on /TXBountyHunters, a new community dedicated to fighting, and profiting from, those who would break the law of our beautiful state": https://rdrama.net/post/12798/hey-gunslingers-come-join-us-on (https://rdrama.net/post/12798/hey-gunslingers-come-join-us-on) The subreddit was here -- quickly banned and we can't find an archived version: https://www.reddit.com/r/TXBountyHunters (https://www.reddit.com/r/TXBountyHunters) Celebration: https://rdrama.net/post/13597/vice-gets-bounty-hunted (https://rdrama.net/post/13597/vice-gets-bounty-hunted) "I think the key takeaway here is when these journos and abortion enthusiasts see a 'Christian' their brains malfunction and they lose what little ability they had to think rationally": https://taytay.life/post/13597/vice-gets-bounty-hunted/272219//?context=5#contex (https://taytay.life/post/13597/vice-gets-bounty-hunted/272219//?context=5#contex)

The Opperman Report'
Mark Ebner : Bill Cosby Rape Allegations

The Opperman Report'

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 17, 2021 130:31


Mark Ebner was the first journalist to report on the Bill Cosby rape allegations. His reporting was stifled and suppressed by major media outlets.Source:https://www.spreaker.com/user/opperma...New York Times best selling author Mark Ebner is an award winning investigative journalist who has covered all aspects of celebrity and crime culture for Spy, Rolling Stone, Maxim, Details, Los Angeles, Premiere, Salon, Spin, Radar, Angeleno, The Daily Beast.com, Gawker.com, BoingBoing.net and New ... See Moreabout 1 month ago #mark ebner : bill cosby rape a

The Opperman Report
Mark Ebner : Bill Cosby Rape Allegations

The Opperman Report

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 17, 2021 130:31


Mark Ebner was the first journalist to report on the Bill Cosby rape allegations. His reporting was stifled and suppressed by major media outlets. Source: https://www.spreaker.com/user/opperma... New York Times best selling author Mark Ebner is an award winning investigative journalist who has covered all aspects of celebrity and crime culture for Spy, Rolling Stone, Maxim, Details, Los Angeles, Premiere, Salon, Spin, Radar, Angeleno, The Daily Beast.com, Gawker.com, BoingBoing.net and New ... See More about 1 month ago #mark ebner : bill cosby rape a

The Opperman Report
Guest: Mark Ebner

The Opperman Report

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 16, 2021 102:58


Church of Scientology "Hollywood, Interrupted" ,"Six Degrees of Paris Hilton"Ain't It Cool?: Kicking Hollywood's Butt New York Times best selling author Mark Ebner is an award winning investigative journalist who has covered all aspects of celebrity and crime culture for Spy, Rolling Stone, Maxim, Details, Los Angeles, Premiere, Salon, Spin, Radar, Angeleno, The Daily Beast.com, Gawker.com, BoingBoing.net and New Times among other national and international and internet publications. He has repeatedly positioned himself in harm's way, conducting dozens of investigations into such subjects as Scientology, Pit Bull fighting in South Central Los Angeles, the Ku Klux Klan in Texas, celebrity stalkers, drug dealers, missing porn stars, sports groupies, mobsters, college suicides and Hepatitis C in Hollywood. Ebner has produced for and/or appeared as a journalist-commentator on NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, A&E, The BBC, Channel 4 (UK), National Public Radio, Court TV, Fox News, FX, VH-1 and E! Entertainment Television. He has been a featured guest on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, The Today Show, The Early Show, Inside Edition, The Dylan Ratigan Show, Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn, Fox & Friends, Catherine Crier Live, and a host of other television and radio programs in the US, Canada, the United Kingdom and Asia. In 2000, Ebner hosted his own nationally syndicated radio program, Drastic Radio, and co-authored the New York Times/Los Angeles Times best-seller, "Hollywood, Interrupted" in 2005 with the late Andrew Breitbart of the Drudge Report. He followed that collaboration with the Hollywood true crimer "Six Degrees of Paris Hilton" (Simon and Schuster) in 2008, and 2011 saw publication of "We Have Your Husband" (Berkley Books)with Jayne Garcia Valseca which resulted in a Lifetime Movie adaptation of the same title. 2013 and 2014 bring Being Uncle Charlie (Random House Canada)with former Canadian undercover copper Bob Deasy and Poison Candy with former Florida prosecutor Elizabeth Parker respectively. Ebner consulted on the Emmy-nominated "Trapped In The Closet" episode of South Park for Comedy Central, consulted for NBC/Dateline on the "Paris Hilton Tapes" report, and field produced a one-hour VH1 special on the same topic. He also hosted "Rich and Reckless," a crime show for TruTV, co-starred in I Can't Believe I'm Still Single (Showtime), and blogs when he can at HollywoodInterrupted.com. http://www.amazon.com/Mark-Ebner/e/B0...

The Opperman Report'
Guest: Mark Ebner

The Opperman Report'

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 16, 2021 102:58


Church of Scientology "Hollywood, Interrupted" ,"Six Degrees of Paris Hilton"Ain't It Cool?: Kicking Hollywood's Butt New York Times best selling author Mark Ebner is an award winning investigative journalist who has covered all aspects of celebrity and crime culture for Spy, Rolling Stone, Maxim, Details, Los Angeles, Premiere, Salon, Spin, Radar, Angeleno, The Daily Beast.com, Gawker.com, BoingBoing.net and New Times among other national and international and internet publications. He has repeatedly positioned himself in harm's way, conducting dozens of investigations into such subjects as Scientology, Pit Bull fighting in South Central Los Angeles, the Ku Klux Klan in Texas, celebrity stalkers, drug dealers, missing porn stars, sports groupies, mobsters, college suicides and Hepatitis C in Hollywood. Ebner has produced for and/or appeared as a journalist-commentator on NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, A&E, The BBC, Channel 4 (UK), National Public Radio, Court TV, Fox News, FX, VH-1 and E! Entertainment Television. He has been a featured guest on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, The Today Show, The Early Show, Inside Edition, The Dylan Ratigan Show, Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn, Fox & Friends, Catherine Crier Live, and a host of other television and radio programs in the US, Canada, the United Kingdom and Asia. In 2000, Ebner hosted his own nationally syndicated radio program, Drastic Radio, and co-authored the New York Times/Los Angeles Times best-seller, "Hollywood, Interrupted" in 2005 with the late Andrew Breitbart of the Drudge Report. He followed that collaboration with the Hollywood true crimer "Six Degrees of Paris Hilton" (Simon and Schuster) in 2008, and 2011 saw publication of "We Have Your Husband" (Berkley Books)with Jayne Garcia Valseca which resulted in a Lifetime Movie adaptation of the same title. 2013 and 2014 bring Being Uncle Charlie (Random House Canada)with former Canadian undercover copper Bob Deasy and Poison Candy with former Florida prosecutor Elizabeth Parker respectively. Ebner consulted on the Emmy-nominated "Trapped In The Closet" episode of South Park for Comedy Central, consulted for NBC/Dateline on the "Paris Hilton Tapes" report, and field produced a one-hour VH1 special on the same topic. He also hosted "Rich and Reckless," a crime show for TruTV, co-starred in I Can't Believe I'm Still Single (Showtime), and blogs when he can at HollywoodInterrupted.com.http://www.amazon.com/Mark-Ebner/e/B0...

Blocked and Reported
Judith Butler's Gender Bubbles

Blocked and Reported

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 13, 2021 69:56


After Jesse and Katie follow up on some pedo stuff from last week's episode (hooray), they talk a bit about the response to Jesse's New York Times review of Helen Joyce's Trans: When Ideology Meets Reality. Then they address a burning question: Did The Guardian censor Judith Butler because she spoke truth to TERFy power, or did nothing like that happen at all? They also discuss Butler's theory of an alliance between gender-critical feminists and neo-fascists. Show notes/Links: Jesse's review of Trans: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/07/books/review/trans-helen-joyce.html Wi spa incident: https://nypost.com/2021/09/02/charges-filed-against-sex-offender-in-wi-spa-casecharges-filed-against-sex-offender-in-notorious-wi-spa-incident/ Max Read on Gawker: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/08/did-i-kill-gawker.html Crackstarter: https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/05/27/mayorrobfordcrackvideoscandalgawkerscrackstarterhits200000goal.html Random girl singing N-word: https://www.gawker.com/white-kid-caught-ecstatically-singing-nigga-by-coache-1697520011 Bryan Goldberg buys Gawker: https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/gawker-acquired-bustle-bryan-goldberg-1202871999/ "The Relentless and Well-Deserved Mockery of Bryan Goldberg": https://www.gawker.com/the-relentless-and-well-deserved-mockery-of-bryan-goldb-1325205558 New Gawker meltdown: https://www.thedailybeast.com/gawker-writers-quit-over-editorial-director-carson-griffiths-offensive-tweets-workplace-comments We got bigots reviewing bigots out here!: https://www.gawker.com/media/bigot-reviews-bigot-for-nyt-book-review What's Jesse Singal's Fucking Deals?: https://jezebel.com/whats-jesse-singals-fucking-deal-1826930495 Carey Callahan on informed consent: https://mariacatt42.medium.com/in-which-i-fail-to-find-you-any-gate-keeping-622c447a835f The terrible Atlantic article: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/07/when-a-child-says-shes-trans/561749/ Jesse's review was 'violent': https://twitter.com/britnidlc/status/1435323903199649797 Murders: https://twitter.com/thesarahkelly/status/1435722753156468737 HRC's fearmongering: https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-transgender-and-gender-non-conforming-community-in-2021 Polling on self-ID: https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/07/16/where-does-british-public-stand-transgender-rights Judith Butler interviewed in The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/sep/07/judith-butler-interview-gender Original, pre-cuts version: https://archive.is/jds9K Judith Butler wins the Bad Writing Contest: http://www.denisdutton.com/bad_writing.htm Martha Nussbaum demolishes Butler: https://newrepublic.com/article/150687/professor-parody Eoin Higgins: https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1435355735056162826 Jezebel explains what happened: https://jezebel.com/the-guardian-says-edited-judith-butler-interview-was-re-1847636842 Nathan Robinson says he lost his Guardian gig for being harsh on Israel: https://www.currentaffairs.org/2021/02/how-the-media-cracks-down-on-critics-of-israel Widespread claims of censorship: https://twitter.com/search?q=guardian%20censor*&src=typed_query ...but no (thread): https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1435674221586305027 Critique of gender identity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPVNxYkawao&ab_channel=HelenHeaton WoLF folks on a panel at Heritage: https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/conservative-group-hosts-anti-transgender-panel-feminists-left-n964246 Gender Now: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/series/gender-now

Blocked and Reported
Episode 81: Judith Butler's Gender Bubbles

Blocked and Reported

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 11, 2021 68:30


Show notes/Links:Jesse's review of Trans: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/07/books/review/trans-helen-joyce.html Wi spa incident: https://nypost.com/2021/09/02/charges-filed-against-sex-offender-in-wi-spa-casecharges-filed-against-sex-offender-in-notorious-wi-spa-incident/ Max Read on Gawker: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/08/did-i-kill-gawker.html Crackstarter: https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/05/27/mayor_rob_ford_crack_video_scandal_gawkers_crackstarter_hits_200000_goal.html Random girl singing N-word: https://www.gawker.com/white-kid-caught-ecstatically-singing-nigga-by-coache-1697520011 Bryan Goldberg buys Gawker: https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/gawker-acquired-bustle-bryan-goldberg-1202871999/ "The Relentless and Well-Deserved Mockery of Bryan Goldberg": https://www.gawker.com/the-relentless-and-well-deserved-mockery-of-bryan-goldb-1325205558 New Gawker meltdown: https://www.thedailybeast.com/gawker-writers-quit-over-editorial-director-carson-griffiths-offensive-tweets-workplace-comments We got bigots reviewing bigots out here!: https://www.gawker.com/media/bigot-reviews-bigot-for-nyt-book-reviewWhat's Jesse Singal's F*****g Deals?: https://jezebel.com/whats-jesse-singals-f*****g-deal-1826930495 Carey Callahan on informed consent: https://mariacatt42.medium.com/in-which-i-fail-to-find-you-any-gate-keeping-622c447a835f The terrible Atlantic article: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/07/when-a-child-says-shes-trans/561749/ Jesse's review was 'violent': https://twitter.com/britnidlc/status/1435323903199649797Murders: https://twitter.com/thesarahkelly/status/1435722753156468737 HRC's fearmongering: https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-transgender-and-gender-non-conforming-community-in-2021 Polling on self-ID: https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/07/16/where-does-british-public-stand-transgender-rights Judith Butler interviewed in The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/sep/07/judith-butler-interview-gender Original, pre-cuts version: https://archive.is/jds9K Judith Butler wins the Bad Writing Contest: http://www.denisdutton.com/bad_writing.htm Martha Nussbaum demolishes Butler: https://newrepublic.com/article/150687/professor-parody Eoin Higgins: https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1435355735056162826 Jezebel explains what happened: https://jezebel.com/the-guardian-says-edited-judith-butler-interview-was-re-1847636842 Nathan Robinson says he lost his Guardian gig for being harsh on Israel: https://www.currentaffairs.org/2021/02/how-the-media-cracks-down-on-critics-of-israel Widespread claims of censorship: https://twitter.com/search?q=guardian%20censor*&src=typed_query ...but no (thread): https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1435674221586305027 Critique of gender identity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPVNxYkawao&ab_channel=HelenHeaton WoLF folks on a panel at Heritage: https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/conservative-group-hosts-anti-transgender-panel-feminists-left-n964246 Gender Now: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/series/gender-now  This is a public episode. Get access to private episodes at www.blockedandreported.org/subscribe

House of Strauss
HoS Pod with guest Freddie DeBoer: On Deadspin, Gawker and Drew Magary

House of Strauss

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 10, 2021 62:29


Listen now | House of Strauss pod is back! This time, we welcome one of the best writers on the internet, Freddie DeBoer.  Get full access to House of Strauss at houseofstrauss.substack.com/subscribe

Family Ghosts
45: A Hollywood Ending

Family Ghosts

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 10, 2021 61:10


Following the tragic murder of his brother Asher, Mac's family finds disparate ways of re-assembling their shattered lives. Mac's essay originally appeared in Gawker.

New Books in Science, Technology, and Society
Caitlin Petre, "All the News That's Fit to Click: How Metrics Are Transforming the Work of Journalists" (Princeton UP, 2021)

New Books in Science, Technology, and Society

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 10, 2021 52:24


Over the past 15 years, journalism has experienced a rapid proliferation of data about online reader behavior in the form of web metrics. These newsroom metrics influence which stories are written, how news is promoted, and which journalists get hired and fired. Some argue that metrics help journalists better serve their audiences. Others worry that metrics are the contemporary equivalent of a stopwatch-wielding factory manager. In All the News That's Fit to Click: How Metrics Are Transforming the Work of Journalists (Princeton UP 2021), Caitlin Petre offers a rare behind-the-scenes look at how metrics are reshaping the work of journalism.  The book is based on Petre's interviews and ethnographic observations at Chartbeat, Gawker, and the New York Times. Across the organizations, she finds that newsroom metrics are a powerful form of managerial surveillance and discipline. However, unlike the manager's stopwatch that preceded them, digital metrics are designed to gain the trust of wary journalists by providing a habit-forming user experience that mimics key features of addictive games. She details how metrics intersect with newsroom hierarchies and norms, as well as how their ambiguity leads to seemingly arbitrary interpretations of success. As performance analytics spread to virtually every professional field, Petre's findings speak to the future of expertise and labor relations in contexts far beyond journalism. Caitlin Petre is an assistant professor of journalism and media studies at Rutgers University. Jenna Spinelle is an instructor in the Donald P. Bellisario College of Communications at Penn State and host of the Democracy Works podcast. Jenna Spinelle is a journalism instructor at Penn State's Donald P. Bellisario College of Communications. She's also the communications specialist for the university's McCourtney Institute for Democracy, where she hosts and produces the Democracy Works podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/science-technology-and-society

New Books in Communications
Caitlin Petre, "All the News That's Fit to Click: How Metrics Are Transforming the Work of Journalists" (Princeton UP, 2021)

New Books in Communications

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 10, 2021 52:24


Over the past 15 years, journalism has experienced a rapid proliferation of data about online reader behavior in the form of web metrics. These newsroom metrics influence which stories are written, how news is promoted, and which journalists get hired and fired. Some argue that metrics help journalists better serve their audiences. Others worry that metrics are the contemporary equivalent of a stopwatch-wielding factory manager. In All the News That's Fit to Click: How Metrics Are Transforming the Work of Journalists (Princeton UP 2021), Caitlin Petre offers a rare behind-the-scenes look at how metrics are reshaping the work of journalism.  The book is based on Petre's interviews and ethnographic observations at Chartbeat, Gawker, and the New York Times. Across the organizations, she finds that newsroom metrics are a powerful form of managerial surveillance and discipline. However, unlike the manager's stopwatch that preceded them, digital metrics are designed to gain the trust of wary journalists by providing a habit-forming user experience that mimics key features of addictive games. She details how metrics intersect with newsroom hierarchies and norms, as well as how their ambiguity leads to seemingly arbitrary interpretations of success. As performance analytics spread to virtually every professional field, Petre's findings speak to the future of expertise and labor relations in contexts far beyond journalism. Caitlin Petre is an assistant professor of journalism and media studies at Rutgers University. Jenna Spinelle is an instructor in the Donald P. Bellisario College of Communications at Penn State and host of the Democracy Works podcast. Jenna Spinelle is a journalism instructor at Penn State's Donald P. Bellisario College of Communications. She's also the communications specialist for the university's McCourtney Institute for Democracy, where she hosts and produces the Democracy Works podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/communications

New Books Network
Caitlin Petre, "All the News That's Fit to Click: How Metrics Are Transforming the Work of Journalists" (Princeton UP, 2021)

New Books Network

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 10, 2021 52:24


Over the past 15 years, journalism has experienced a rapid proliferation of data about online reader behavior in the form of web metrics. These newsroom metrics influence which stories are written, how news is promoted, and which journalists get hired and fired. Some argue that metrics help journalists better serve their audiences. Others worry that metrics are the contemporary equivalent of a stopwatch-wielding factory manager. In All the News That's Fit to Click: How Metrics Are Transforming the Work of Journalists (Princeton UP 2021), Caitlin Petre offers a rare behind-the-scenes look at how metrics are reshaping the work of journalism.  The book is based on Petre's interviews and ethnographic observations at Chartbeat, Gawker, and the New York Times. Across the organizations, she finds that newsroom metrics are a powerful form of managerial surveillance and discipline. However, unlike the manager's stopwatch that preceded them, digital metrics are designed to gain the trust of wary journalists by providing a habit-forming user experience that mimics key features of addictive games. She details how metrics intersect with newsroom hierarchies and norms, as well as how their ambiguity leads to seemingly arbitrary interpretations of success. As performance analytics spread to virtually every professional field, Petre's findings speak to the future of expertise and labor relations in contexts far beyond journalism. Caitlin Petre is an assistant professor of journalism and media studies at Rutgers University. Jenna Spinelle is an instructor in the Donald P. Bellisario College of Communications at Penn State and host of the Democracy Works podcast. Jenna Spinelle is a journalism instructor at Penn State's Donald P. Bellisario College of Communications. She's also the communications specialist for the university's McCourtney Institute for Democracy, where she hosts and produces the Democracy Works podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

New Books in Journalism
Caitlin Petre, "All the News That's Fit to Click: How Metrics Are Transforming the Work of Journalists" (Princeton UP, 2021)

New Books in Journalism

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 10, 2021 52:24


Over the past 15 years, journalism has experienced a rapid proliferation of data about online reader behavior in the form of web metrics. These newsroom metrics influence which stories are written, how news is promoted, and which journalists get hired and fired. Some argue that metrics help journalists better serve their audiences. Others worry that metrics are the contemporary equivalent of a stopwatch-wielding factory manager. In All the News That's Fit to Click: How Metrics Are Transforming the Work of Journalists (Princeton UP 2021), Caitlin Petre offers a rare behind-the-scenes look at how metrics are reshaping the work of journalism.  The book is based on Petre's interviews and ethnographic observations at Chartbeat, Gawker, and the New York Times. Across the organizations, she finds that newsroom metrics are a powerful form of managerial surveillance and discipline. However, unlike the manager's stopwatch that preceded them, digital metrics are designed to gain the trust of wary journalists by providing a habit-forming user experience that mimics key features of addictive games. She details how metrics intersect with newsroom hierarchies and norms, as well as how their ambiguity leads to seemingly arbitrary interpretations of success. As performance analytics spread to virtually every professional field, Petre's findings speak to the future of expertise and labor relations in contexts far beyond journalism. Caitlin Petre is an assistant professor of journalism and media studies at Rutgers University. Jenna Spinelle is an instructor in the Donald P. Bellisario College of Communications at Penn State and host of the Democracy Works podcast. Jenna Spinelle is a journalism instructor at Penn State's Donald P. Bellisario College of Communications. She's also the communications specialist for the university's McCourtney Institute for Democracy, where she hosts and produces the Democracy Works podcast. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/journalism

2 Old 4 TikTok
TikTok's Latest Beauty Trend and He's All That

2 Old 4 TikTok

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 9, 2021 31:07


Dena and Melissa discuss the latest beauty trend on TikTok this week. After @trinidad1967 posted a three minute video showing the instant effects of Peter Thomas Roth's Instant Firmx Eye, the product has been sold out everywhere. We hear an explainer video from beauty blogger @susanyara.  11:50 He's All That We devote the rest of the show to discussing “He's All That,” arguably the first “TikTok” movie, starring Addison Rae and Tanner Buchanan. We compare it to the original “She's All That” with Freddie Prinze Jr., Matthew Lillard, and Rachel Leigh Cook. We discuss all the product placement, featuring a Gawker article, and note a TikToker cameo from @spencerx.  Check out all these videos and more on our blog (2old4tiktok.com), Instagram (@2old4tiktokpod), and TikTok (@2old4tiktok_podcast).  

Good Nurse Bad Nurse
Good HIV Nurse Bad HIV Doctor

Good Nurse Bad Nurse

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 28, 2021 45:35


This week Tina is joined by ICU nurse and educator Justin Alves with DKB Med. Together, they discuss the troubling story of Dr. Sam Chachoua, a trained medical doctor who turned to alternative medicine and lied about the results. Made infamous over claims he cured a famous Hollywood actor, his dangerous, unproved methods almost killed the famous actor and could have impacted countless other people. We will also talk about the incredible story of Mary Magee, the first U.S. medical provider to accidentally contract HIV from a patient. Known as “Jane Doe” for many years, Mary has been an advocate for nurses, the LGBTQ+ community, and worked to end the stigma associated with HIV. Please support our show by supporting our sponsors!   Thank you to the American Nurses Credentialing Center for sponsoring our podcast. If you are thinking about getting certified in your nursing specialty, please go to https://pages.nursingworld.org/gnbn for more information! Thank you to Trusted Health for sponsoring this episode. Please go to https://www.trustedhealth.com/gnbn and fill out a profile to help support our podcast and see what opportunities are out there for you! Thank you to our new sponsor Samuel Merritt University. If you're interested in getting more information on their MSN and DNP programs and scholarships visit them at https://smumsn.com and show them how much you appreciate them for sponsoring our podcast! Thank you to CBD Stat for continuing to sponsor our podcast! If you're interested in CBD, go to https://www.cbdstat.care/goodnursebadnurse and check them out! And of course our latest sponsor, Eko! Please visit them at https://ekohealth.com and use promo code GNBN for $20 off your purchase of the new Littmann Cardiology IV stethoscope with Eko technology! Credits Alexander, S. (2019, September 27). 4 lessons from the beginning of the AIDS crisis. ONE. https://www.one.org/us/blog/4-lessons-aids-crisis-5b/ Allday, E. (2011, December 10). Nurse who contracted HIV with jab sheds anonymity. SFGATE; San Francisco Chronicle. https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Nurse-who-contracted-HIV-with-jab-sheds-anonymity-2394068.php CBR Staff Writer. (2000, September 24). $10m awarded to AIDS and cancer researcher in lawsuit - Tech Monitor. Tech Monitor. https://techmonitor.ai/techonology/10m_awarded_to_aids_and_cancer_researcher_in_lawsuit Chachoua, S. (2021). @samchachoua. Twitter. https://twitter.com/samchachoua Char Adams. (2016, February). Charlie Sheen Blasts Doctor Who Claims to Have Cured Him of HIV and Even Injected Himself with Star's Blood. PEOPLE.com; PEOPLE.com. https://people.com/celebrity/charlie-sheen-blasts-doctor-who-claims-to-have-cured-him-of-hiv-on-twitter/ Deerwester, J. (2016, June 21). Charlie Sheen gives “Today” an HIV status update. USA TODAY; USA TODAY. https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2016/06/21/charlie-sheen-gives-today-status-update/86171076/ DoctorOz. (2016). Dr. Oz and Charlie Sheen Debunk Dr. Sam Chachoua's Claims [YouTube Video]. On YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YbjvsK8xRY Dr Sam Chachoua. (2021). Archive.org. https://web.archive.org/web/20001026171952/http://www.nexusmagazine.com/chachoua.html Gorski, D. (2016, February). When antivaccine pseudoscience isn't enough, Bill Maher fawns over Charlie Sheen's HIV quack. Science-Based Medicine. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/when-antivaccine-pseudoscience-isnt-enough-bill-maher-embraces-goat-milk-hiv-quackery/ Haglage, A. (2019, June 13). “Screw you and all your fear and homophobia”: Nurse reveals what it was like to work at San Francisco's first AIDS ward. Yahoo.com; Yahoo. https://www.yahoo.com/now/screw-you-and-all-your-fear-and-homophobia-nurse-reveals-what-it-was-like-to-work-at-san-franciscos-first-aids-ward-185306242.html Juzwiak, R. (2016, January 30). Supposed Doctor Who Injected Himself With Charlie Sheen's HIV-Positive Blood: “I've Cured Countries!” Gawker. https://www.gawker.com/supposed-doctor-who-injected-himself-with-charlie-sheen-1756141228 Knockin' Doorz Down. (2021). Charlie Sheen | Sober living, “Tigers Blood”, “Winning”, Two and a Half Men and The Road To Recovery [YouTube Video]. On YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ1v7h7MBqE Kreidler, M. (2019, November). Induced Remission Therapy (Sam Chachoua) | Quackwatch. Quackwatch.org. https://quackwatch.org/related/cancer/chachoua/ Lang, M. E. (2016, March 7). The Goats' Milk Cure and Other Fables. The Well Project. https://www.thewellproject.org/a-girl-like-me/aglm-blogs/goats-milk-cure-and-other-fables Living into the Lessons of 5B with HIV/AIDS Nurse Guy Vandenberg. (2019, September 18). Discover Nursing. https://nursing.jnj.com/nursing-news-events/nurses-leading-innovation/living-into-the-lessons-of-5b-with-hiv-aids-nurse-guy-vandenberg Oz Exclusive: Charlie Sheen Heads to Mexico and Comes Face-to-Face With the Doctor Who Claims He Has the Cure For HIV. (2016, February 6). The Dr. Oz Show. https://www.doctoroz.com/episode/oz-exclusive-charlie-sheen-heads-mexico-and-comes-face-face-doctor-who-claims-he-has-cure PEOPLE.com. (2016, January 12). Charlie Sheen Temporarily Went Off HIV Medications to Seek Alternative Treatment in Mexico: “So What? I Was Born Dead.” PEOPLE.com; PEOPLE.com. https://people.com/celebrity/charlie-sheen-off-hiv-meds-seeking-alternative-treatment/ PolitiFact - No, arthritic goat milk cannot cure HIV. (2020). @Politifact. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/feb/23/samir-chachoua/no-arthritic-goat-milk-cannot-cure-hiv/ Sam Chachoua - Top podcast episodes. (2018, December 8). Listen Notes. https://www.listennotes.com/top-episodes/sam-chachoua/ SEIU. (2019, August 5). SEIU Nurse Mary Magee in new “5B” documentary talks about revolutionary care, pioneering nurses and working in union. SEIU - Service Employees International Union. https://www.seiu.org/blog/2019/8/seiu-nurse-mary-magee-in-new-5b-documentary-talks-about-revolutionary-care-pioneering-nurses-and-working-in-union Unbliveble 99. (2016). Supposed Doctor Who Injected Himself With Charlie Sheen's HIV-Positive Blood: I've Cured Countries! [YouTube Video]. On YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31eJZKFO2NQ Walker, M. (2003). German cancer therapies : natural and conventional medicines that offer hope and healing (pp. 168–181). Kensington. https://www.google.com/books/edition/German_Cancer_Therapies/e9smPCEn2xIC?hl=en&gbpv=1  

How Long Gone
228. - A.J. Daulerio

How Long Gone

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2021 75:32


A.J. Daulerio is a writer and the former editor of Gawker and Deadspin. He now runs The Small Bow newsletter, and podcast “Really Good Shares,” both focused on recovery. We chat about our whole-milk agenda finally reaching the mainstream, both by its consumption by hot girls, as well as the stacking of their crates to be walked upon. Chris not being invited to Korean BBQ, AJ not loving our podcast music, furloughing prescription pills, the difficulty of breaking up with your dealer, even if they have a proprietary hash-and-moonrocks blend, passive audio listening, Air Mail, predictions on the future of print media, the cadence of our podcasting schedule, our thoughts on Marc Maron and Rick Rubin's podcasting, abs being made in the kitchen, and AJ finding stoic solace at the House Of Pies on Vermont. https://www.thesmallbow.com/ https://twitter.com/donetodeath https://twitter.com/themjeans --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/howlonggone/support

Channel 33
The New Gawker and Leon Neyfakh on the 'Fiasco' Podcast

Channel 33

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 2, 2021 46:35


Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker break down Gawker 2.0 and discuss how it compares to the older site (0:35). Then, host of the 'Fiasco' podcast, Leon Neyfakh, joins to talk about the new season that dives deeper into Benghazi (6:22).  Hosts: Bryan Curtis and David Shoemaker Guest: Leon Neyfakh Associate Producer: Erika Cervantes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

AHC Podcast
Chevy Chase

AHC Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2021 69:03


There is a reason that Chevy Chase has had a four decade-long run on TV and as a movie star - the dude is freakin' hilarious.  But, as we've seen with many of our favorite stars over the years, there is more behind the Clark Griswold persona than many of us know about.  Chase was one of brains behind the early Saturday Night Live years, which catapulted him into the spotlight, but the stories many have told about run-ins and incidents with Chase may shed a different light on him.  We'll dive into these stories and much more in the latest episode of AHC Podcast.         Intro Music Credit: TeknoAXE's Royalty Free Music Run to the Light - Alternative/70s Rock - Royalty Free Music https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtgf00GvfFQVsYBA7V7RwUw     Nickolai, N. (2018, October 17). Pete Davidson Slams Chevy Chase FOR 'SNL' Diss, calls HIM 'RACIST'. Variety. https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/pete-davidson-chevy-chase-snl-1202959334/.   Princeton, H. (2017, October 24). Chevy chase isn't The funny guy you think he is. Pens & Patron. https://www.pensandpatron.com/editorial/chevy-chase/.   Read, M. (2012, April 12). He's not Chevy, he's an Asshole: A history of Chevy Chase's horrific behavior. Gawker. https://gawker.com/5899097/hes-not-chevy-hes-an-asshole-a-history-of-chevy-chases-horrific-behavior.   Stephens, D. (2021, April 1). Difficult to work with: Why Chevy Chase has so many Hollywood Haters. Top 10 Films. https://www.top10films.co.uk/64640-difficult-to-work-with-why-chevy-chase-has-so-many-hollywood-haters/.   Thomson Reuters. (2007, April 24). Chevy chase says in book he was beaten by mother. Reuters. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-chase-biography/chevy-chase-says-in-book-he-was-beaten-by-mother-idUSN2333396920070424.   TodayShow. (2007, April 26). Chevy chase on his childhood abuse. TODAY.com. https://www.today.com/popculture/chevy-chase-his-childhood-abuse-wbna18337412.   Wikimedia Foundation. (2021, July 28). Chevy Chase. Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/1wiki/Chevy_Chase.   Wikimedia Foundation. (2021, June 11). Social register. Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Register.

The Wright Show
Covid Strikes Back (Robert Wright & Mickey Kaus)

The Wright Show

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2021 60:00


Mickey protests the sexualization of Bloggingheads ... The tribal response to Simone Biles' troubles ... Mickey: The left puts too much blame on unvaccinated Trumpers ... Bob campaigns for vaccine czar ... How should Biden talk about the Delta variant? ... Who can beat Trump in 2024? ... JD Vance really wants you to have kids ... Bob wants to get rid of the news ... Mickey: Sinema should sink the child tax credit ... Elon Musk's fantasy world ... Bob is hiring! ... Parrot Room preview: Into the metaverse, Mickey's theory on Gawker, Van Jones gets rich, Mickey's take on Bruce Springsteen and Jon Landau, how woke are the Olympics, sexism in trees, the joke Mickey told Jackie Mason, and a new report on a 2013 chemical weapons attack in Syria ...

Bloggingheads.tv
Covid Strikes Back (Robert Wright & Mickey Kaus)

Bloggingheads.tv

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2021 60:00


Mickey protests the sexualization of Bloggingheads ... The tribal response to Simone Biles' troubles ... Mickey: The left puts too much blame on unvaccinated Trumpers ... Bob campaigns for vaccine czar ... How should Biden talk about the Delta variant? ... Who can beat Trump in 2024? ... JD Vance really wants you to have kids ... Bob wants to get rid of the news ... Mickey: Sinema should sink the child tax credit ... Elon Musk's fantasy world ... Bob is hiring! ... Parrot Room preview: Into the metaverse, Mickey's theory on Gawker, Van Jones gets rich, Mickey's take on Bruce Springsteen and Jon Landau, how woke are the Olympics, sexism in trees, the joke Mickey told Jackie Mason, and a new report on a 2013 chemical weapons attack in Syria ...

Ross Patterson Revolution!
Episode 706 - Sunni Lee Wins Gold

Ross Patterson Revolution!

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 29, 2021 85:14


Ross and Jessie celebrate American gymnast Sunni Lee's gold medal win in the women's individual all-around, Jessie is disgusted at Jared Leto's newest film look, Ross talks about the website Gawker coming back, and Jessie hates deep dish pizza.   Go to ghostbed.com/drinkinbros and use code DRINKINBROS for 30% off EVERYTHING (Mattresses, Adjustable Base, and more) -- plus a 101 Night Sleep Trial and Mattresses Made in the USA!   Go to CardoMax.com and use promo code NOONERS, and you get Buy One Get One FREE on your first order.   For a limited time, new customers can try Amazon Music Unlimited FREE for 30 days. No credit card required! Just go to Amazon.com/NOONERS.

On The Line Podcast
Hulkamania | Part II: NOW (Gawker, Thiel, Trump)

On The Line Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 29, 2021 62:37


This week we're joined by editor, writer and former VICE News editor-in-chief Ryan McCarthy for a two-part discussion on the legacy of Hulk Hogan—from his iconic stardom in the 80s and 90s WWF to his eventual involvement in temporarily disbanding a media company. Ryan J. McCarthyTwitter: @mccarthyryanjMORE: ryanjmccarthy.netSwish FM is Chris Wendelken and Ben Craw.SWISH FM:Web: SwishFM.comEmail: swishfmradio@gmail.comTwitter: @SwishFMRadioInstagram: @SwishFMRadioApple: apple.co/2NXjMP8Stitcher: stitcher.com/s?fid=342861Spotify: spoti.fi/2T7ZmjYGoogle: bit.ly/32KIiWsiHeart: ihr.fm/312LC1lMUSIC:Artist: LetheretteAlbum: Brown Lounge, Vol. 1Title: Montego FuzzLabel: WulfApple: apple.co/2kyOBLOSpotify: spoti.fi/2kqAhoT

On The Line Podcast
Hulkamania | Part I: THEN (Hogan-Andre, Wrestlemania IV, Trump)

On The Line Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 29, 2021 87:21


This week we're joined by editor, writer and former VICE News editor-in-chief Ryan McCarthy for a two-part discussion on the legacy of Hulk Hogan—from his iconic stardom in the 80s and 90s WWF to his eventual involvement in temporarily disbanding a media company. Ryan J. McCarthyTwitter: @mccarthyryanjMORE: ryanjmccarthy.netSwish FM is Chris Wendelken and Ben Craw.SWISH FM:Web: SwishFM.comEmail: swishfmradio@gmail.comTwitter: @SwishFMRadioInstagram: @SwishFMRadioApple: apple.co/2NXjMP8Stitcher: stitcher.com/s?fid=342861Spotify: spoti.fi/2T7ZmjYGoogle: bit.ly/32KIiWsiHeart: ihr.fm/312LC1lMUSIC:Artist: LetheretteAlbum: Brown Lounge, Vol. 1Title: Montego FuzzLabel: WulfApple: apple.co/2kyOBLOSpotify: spoti.fi/2kqAhoT

The Opperman Report
Mark Ebner : Bill Cosby Rape Allegations

The Opperman Report

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 25, 2021 136:40


Mark Ebner was the first journalist to report on the Bill Cosby rape allegations. His reporting was stifled and suppressed by major media outlets. Source: https://www.spreaker.com/user/opperma... New York Times best selling author Mark Ebner is an award winning investigative journalist who has covered all aspects of celebrity and crime culture for Spy, Rolling Stone, Maxim, Details, Los Angeles, Premiere, Salon, Spin, Radar, Angeleno, The Daily Beast.com, Gawker.com, BoingBoing.net and New Times among other national and international and internet publications. He has repeatedly positioned himself in harm's way, conducting dozens of investigations into such subjects as Scientology, Pit Bull fighting in South Central Los Angeles, the Ku Klux Klan in Texas, celebrity stalkers, drug dealers, missing porn stars, sports groupies, mobsters, college suicides and Hepatitis C in Hollywood. Ebner has produced for and/or appeared as a journalist-commentator on NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, A&E, The BBC, Channel 4 (UK), National Public Radio, Court TV, Fox News, FX, VH-1 and E! Entertainment Television. He has been a featured guest on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, The Today Show, The Early Show, Inside Edition, The Dylan Ratigan Show, Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn, Fox & Friends, Catherine Crier Live, and a host of other television and radio programs in the US, Canada, the United Kingdom and Asia.

Love Wrestling
Headlock Talk Finale: Episode 1 | The Hogan-Gawker Case feat. Rob Wilkins

Love Wrestling

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 23, 2021 68:21


On the debut of the Headlock Talk Finale (aka Wrestling Lore), Tanner enlists the help of wrestling journalist and historian Rob Wilkins to discuss Hulk Hogan's lawsuit against media company Gawker and the ramifications it has had not only on the wrestling industry but also on media, journalism, and free speech. Like, Share, and Subscribe today! HOSTS Headlock Talk: @HeadlockTalk Rob Wilkins: @RobWilkins

Honestly with Bari Weiss
You're Being Lied To

Honestly with Bari Weiss

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 20, 2021 106:53


One year after her resignation from the New York Times, Bari sits down with author (and America's most famous Stoic) Ryan Holiday to talk about how the media broke and who is to blame for breaking it. Holiday knows about fake news: In his 2012 bestseller, “Trust Me, I'm Lying,” he explains how he manipulated the media on behalf of himself and his clients, including Tucker Max and Dov Charney of American Apparel. Holiday is also the author of "Conspiracy," the story of how billionaire Peter Thiel brought down the gossip site Gawker. We discuss the unintended consequences of Thiel's success, the economics of outrage, Stoicism, opening a bookstore during COVID, and much more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Odd Lots
Ryan Holiday on Opening a Bookstore During a Pandemic

Odd Lots

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 5, 2021 51:02


Bookstores typically aren't seen as the most attractive businesses in the year 2021. Add in the pandemic, and that makes it even tougher. And if you're in Texas, dealing with multiple blackouts, then it gets even harder than that. Our guest on this episode did all of that. We speak with the author Ryan Holiday, the author of several books including The Daily Stoic and Ego Is the Enemy, as well as Conspiracy, a book about the takedown of Gawker. He talks about his new bookshop in Bastrop Texas, and all of the various difficulties he's faced over the last year in running the operation. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

Pop Pantheon
JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE (with Jordan Sargent)

Pop Pantheon

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2021 80:40


DJ Louie is joined by former Gawker and Spin writer Jordan Sargent for a reassessment of a pop star who really demands one: Justin Timberlake. Louie and Jordan break down the ways Justin's legacy has been altered by cultural reckonings on white male privilege, cultural appropriation, and his roles both implicit and explicit in harming the careers of Janet Jackson and Britney Spears. They then break down Justin's gold-standard transition from boy bander to credible adult star and the successful-if-unsavory ways he put a white face on contemporary R&B music with his massively successful debut album, Justified. They also discuss how luck and privilege played into his cultural dominance in the mid aughts, the genuine, daring musical innovation on his smash second album FutureSex/LoveSounds, and how he and his collaborators lost the thread in the latter period of his career. Louie and Jordan then debate if you could tell an abridged history of pop without mentioning Justin and how his fall from grace in the eyes of the general public has affected his standing in the official Pop Pantheon. Check out Louie's Playlist of Timberlake Essentials on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7eualDkxF3g4KbzVzbFEgQ?si=4be24c541900467a Follow Pop Pantheon on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/poppantheonpod/ Follow Pop Pantheon on Twitter: https://twitter.com/PopPantheonPod Follow DJ Louie XIV on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/djlouiexiv/ Follow DJ Louie XIV on Twitter: https://twitter.com/djlouiexiv Follow Jordan Sargent on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jordansarge