Swim Talk A2B with Dana Abbott and Bob Button

Former Rutgers Head Coach and acclaimed swimming writer Chuck Warner (a frequent guest to Swim Talk A2B) has done it AGAIN. His latest book release, "How To Be A Great Swim Parent" is a compilation and distillation of topics and issues related to the parent-child-coach relationships the ASCA Hall of Fame coach has collected and refined over the years, and as 2024 NCAA Division II Coach of the Year Mickey Wender has remarked, "I can't imagine a better resource to help us focus on the 'right things' as we support the development of a young mind and body."Join A2B hosts Bob and Dana in an illuminating (what? you thought we were going to say "fascinating"???) round-table discussion of a valuable slim volume that USA Swimming Board Member Coach Ira Klein says is "...an absolute joy to read...so critical to help educate new swim parents..."You can get more details and info (and PURCHASE) this wonderfully enlightening book (and other great books by Coach Warner) at www.chuckwarnerbooks.comEpisode timeline:00:01 – Disclaimer01:09 – Chuck Warner Books01:48 – Kelsie at The Jay02:38 – Return of Chuck Warner03:00 – How to be a Great Swim Parent04:08 – The origins06:52 – The Audience?07:38 – Why competitive swimming?09:12 – Support – Don't Lead13:27 – Our family's swim journey14:28 – Scenario19:03 – The Henrys19:32 – Swimming is hard20:29 – Self-Image24:50 – Attrition in the sport26:36 – Effort over outcome28:32 – Coaching is teaching31:17 – Love difficult people…35:40 – Goals39:05 – Social Media addiction49:25 – Carpools50:26 – Book formats52:25 – Team orders? (info@chuckwarnerbooks.com)54:10 – John E. Davis 2extreme Dream (https://2xtreme.info/)55:09 – Listening to kids57:20 – Paraphrasing Samuel Langhorne Clemens58:20 – Wrapping it up

We begin this episode with a lengthy recitation of achievements by this noted coach and educator, but here are some highlights, courtesy of ASCA: Coaching Since: 1977Northside Aquatics Developed 52 Texas high school State (UIL) gold medalists. Coached over 285 high school All-Americans. USA Olympic Trials qualifiers in 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996 and 2000. Produced 6 Olympians in three different sports (swimming, triathlon and pentathlon). Olympic swimmers from 3 different countries (USA, Nicaragua and Algeria)   Coach George Block retired from the Northside Independent School District in San Antonio, Texas at the end of June 2009, where he served as the Director of Aquatics since 1977 and Assistant Director of Athletics since 1993. In that time, he developed the Northside Aquatic Center into an internationally recognized center for athlete development. Email us at: swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com Timeline for this episode: 00:01 – Disclaimer 00:21 – George Block bio 02:10 – San Antonio drownings 05:28 – Benefits of the sport 07:07 – Cell phone vs. swim lessons 08:03 – Introducing George Block 08:33 – Long course water 10:20 – AAAA 14:40 – The “D” word 15:15 – Northside Swim Center 16:11 – Acronym overload 20:13 – Limited Texas options 24:38 – WSCA & anti-doping 30:32 – New testing technology 33:44 – Long-term consequences 34:55 – Pan Zhanle 35:35 – Team USA issues 39:22 – Mike Unger 44:48 – Training the world 47:55 – What hasn't changed? 50:13 – Flunking retirement 54:59 – Wrapping it up

SARASOTA SWIM ACADEMY Head Coach Ira Klein, has coached 6 OLYMPIANS and over 40 USA, YMCA and COLLEGIATE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS. He is an ASCA-certified Level 5 Coach, the highest level attainable with the American Swim Coaches Association. He was the first coach in the country to attain that level as a Senior, Age Group, and YMCA coach. He has more than four decades of teaching experience and coaching excellence. Coach Ira Klein is from New York, graduating in 1975 from Queens College with a BA in Physical Education. He then did his graduate study in Exercise Science at the Univ. of Massachusetts. At Queens College Coach Ira lettered in both swimming and water polo. Coaching has taken him around the country, including four years in Colorado at the Olympic Training Center creating a new Club Services department for USA Swimming. When he was ready to return to the coaching deck he decided to turn down all offers and return to Sarasota where he earlier headed the YMCA program for five years. AMONG HIS COACHING CREDENTIALS ARE: 100% of all program graduating athletes have entered and attended college 65% of all program graduates attending college have received scholarships Five time USA National Team Coach Two time past President of the American Swim Coaches Association [ASCA] Past Vice President of USA Swimming ASCA Coach 'Gold Medal' Level; received for more than 20 years, as a National ‘Coaching Excellence' award recipient. Coached over 100 USA Swimming National, NCAA Collegiate, YMCA National, National Age Group and Junior Olympic; individual and team champions! When asked what he enjoys most in swimming, the singular answer is "the ability to watch a young person achieve something, at any level, that they had never done before and learn that all is possible if they are willing to work for it." Coach Ira can be reached at 941-928-SWIM (7946) coachira@sarasotaswimacademy.org ========== Email us: ⁠swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com⁠ Timeline for this episode 00:01 – Disclaimer 00:24 – How to be a Great Swim Parent 01:23 – Ira Klein on swim parenting 03:48 – Eddie Reese book 04:18 – Introducing Ira Klein 04:43 – Sarasota Tsunami Swim Team 08:35 – Cindy's Sue Nami Swims 09:07 – Hurricanes 11:00 – USAS Club Services 13:15 – Coaching up the parents 17:25 – USAS staffing 22:47 – Team USA trials & camps 27:35 – Looking within for a CEO? 28:33 – Going coach-owned? 31:24 – AAU to USAS w/ASCA 32:33 – Professional attire 33:50 – What isn't new? 36:36 – Terry Laughlin 40:20 – Ira's coaching journey 43:55 – Create the best environment 50:04 – Surviving the long haul 54:04 – Wrapping it up

Three- time Canadian Olympian Jon Cleveland has been a swimmer, a coach, and overseer for the installation of Myrtha pools for the USA Olympic Swimming Trials. First representing Canada at the Olympics in 1988 (Seoul), he medaled in the 400 medley relay (Bronze) in 1992 (Barcelona), and returned for his last Olympics as a competitor in 1996 (Atlanta). The son of MLB pitcher Reggie Cleveland, Jon was also a sports anchor and reporter for TV station CFPL in London, Ontario for 5 years. A contemporary and rival of famed Canadian swimmer Victor Davis, Jon's visit with us takes us back to his roots in swimming, his journey to greatness, and his passion for the aquatics industry and competitive swimming, as well as swimming for all. We hear him voice his thoughts and perceptions about lifeguard shortages, learn-to-swim and lesson programs, and why there is a greater need for them now than ever. Join us for another riveting episode! Email us: swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com Myrtha Pools: https://www.myrthapools.com Timeline for this episode 00:00:01 – Disclaimer 00:01:08 – Water Safety PSA 00:02:02 – Introducing Jon Cleveland 00:02:28 – Into the swimming world 00:06:25 – Move to Calgary 00:09:08 – Taking on Victor Davis 00:13:00 – Trevor Tiffany connection 00:14:32 – Corner Gas 00:16:01 – Broadcasting in London 00:17:36 – Coaching & teaching in Dallas 00:19:50 – From coaching to Myrtha 00:21:00 – Why multi-pool facilities? 00:26:40 – Myrtha = First Class 00:29:00 – What's a Myrtha pool? 00:31:18 – Latest options 00:34:22 – Mobile option 00:35:00 – New projects 00:37:30 – Past the roadblocks 00:40:00 – New York initiatives 00:40:49 – Lifeguard shortages 00:42:30 – Race visualization 00:45:35 – Why not more learn-to-swim? 00:51:32 – Private school builds 00:55:50 – Out of the dark ages 01:00:30 – Contractor issues 01:03:23 – David Johnson 01:04:50 – Wrapping it up

Yes, we've finally turned our attention to the unheralded realm of amazing junior colleges, those necessary and beneficial 2-year options for kids wanting to extend their HS careers, hopefully parlaying that experience into a 4-year option. Dale Pearce is not only a great JuCo mentor at a rising program (Men have won 10 Regional Championships, 11 NJCAA Non-Scholarship Team Titles, and the Women 8 Regional and 8 NJCAA Non-Scholarship Team Titles), he is also the Assistant AD at Monroe Community College in Rochester, NY. Come listen to him share some great stories and explain why JuCo swimming can be a perfect next-path for a HS swimmer. Email us at: ⁠swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com⁠ Interested in swimming for the MCC Tribunes? You can email Coach Dale Pearce at ⁠dpearce4@monroecc.edu⁠ Check out MCC Swimming here: Men: ⁠https://www.mcctribunes.com/sports/mswimdive/index⁠ Women: ⁠https://www.mcctribunes.com/sports/wswimdive/index⁠ Timeline: 00:01 – Disclaimer & banter 01:08 – Water Safety PSA 02:02 – Introducing Dale Pearce 02:38 – Working w/JUCO athletes 03:58 – Recruiting 08:01 – Beyond the pool 12:43 – Wearing several hats 14:55 – JUCO competition 16:52 – Changes through the years 19:16 – Club swimming 20:10 – Wearing the CPO hat 24:55 – Air quality 29:14 – Season preview 32:58 – International program 36:05 – Dave's Leap 36:42 – Enjoying the moment 38:43 – Coaching: Then & Now 41:12 – Contact Dale 41:53 – Wrapping it up

Don and Ron Heidary have been in this particular business for over 30 years, and after listening to them explain their strategy and philosophy of CHARACTER FIRST (team culture), you will understand why. Dana is personally enthused from this conversation with a couple of this country's absolute best coaches, and Bob is cheering them, too! Swimming World Magazine has a couple of great articles about the Heidary brothers and team culture, character: "Q&A with the Heidarys": https://tinyurl.com/2eja237d "Build A Wining Culture": https://tinyurl.com/52ufrka6 Email us: swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com Have you learned anything or even -enjoyed- any of these mediocre podcasts? Well, then, buy us a coffee! https://buymeacoffee.com/swimtalka2b TIMELINE for this OUTSTANDING episode: 00:01 – Disclaimer & banter 03:05 – Chuck Warner books 04:25 – Introducing Ron & Don Heidary 05:05 – Making character education work 08:12 – Personal connections 12:35 – From rock pile to cathedral 16:33 – Orinda Aquatics staffing 17:43 – Does culture match mission? 20:52 – Eight reasons why teenagers drink (Link here: https://tinyurl.com/bdmjtv9x) 22:12 – Facility 23:20 – Feeding the program 24:40 – Virtual Club Championships 26:11 – Getting their start 28:32 – Work ethic 31:11 – Trust 34:49 – Developing leaders & coaches 38:02 – Self-discipline 40:00 – Favorites 42:05 – What's life w/o swimming? 45:28 – Working in some fun 47:20 – Pressure cooker 48:10 – Finding the right fit 48:48 – Culture of caring 51:38 – Wrapping it up 52:38 – Check program notes

One of the most successful collegiate careers in the business! Listen in as we have an engaging conversation with University of Virginia Head Women's and Men's coach Todd DeSorbo. Besides all of the NCAA and Olympic success, did he really say, " if there was one time-frame I would go back to in my life, it would be high school. Partly because... I loved high school, but my math classes were so much fun, and then [my coach] Nikki [Rosenbluth] was so much fun and swimming ... everything that we were doing was fun and I liked it. So it was easy to work hard at it." Yes, he did. HIGH SCHOOL SWIMMING. We think you'll really enjoy this peek into the life and career of UVA and USA Olympic Head Coach Todd DeSorbo! Email us: swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com Episode timeline: 00:01 - Disclaimer 00:20 – Safety or Convenience? 01:16 – Banter 03:15 – Compensation 04:13 – Introducing Todd DeSorbo 04:51 – Splitting time? 06:21 – Support at UVA 09:32 – Accolades 11:40 – Building the roster 14:01 – The Salisbury Post 15:00 – Contending for titles 16:36 – Sprinter Ryan Held 18:38 – Jaw-dropping workouts 20:50 – The Salisbury Hornets 22:01 – Coaching IM-ers 24:36 – Nicky Rosenbluth 26:46 – Numbers cruncher 32:01 – The new ACC 34:45 – What about the men? 37:02 – Titles to Titleist 40:10 – Powerhouse schedule 41:45 – Alternate meet formats 47:00 – Wrapping it up 47:39 – Looking ahead Photo courtesy of Swimming World Magazine and Photographer Peter H. Bick

From listennotes.com: Jeff is a swim official, former FINA starter and pastor. He has worked with big business brands including Toyota, TBS Brands and Mohawk Industries. He's also worked with University sports from Auburn, NC State, Denison and Queens, as well as club programs like the Mason Manta Rays, TAC Titans, and NOVA. Email us at: swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com Contact Jeff Raker: https://www.levelupleadershipcoach.com/contact-us/ Level Up Leadership on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JARaker5 Timeline for this episode: 00:01 – Disclaimer 01:22 – Water Safety PSA 02:30 – Introducing Jeff Raker 04:00 – Jeff's road to Doha ‘24 06:46 – Level Up Leadership 08:50 – Question for Today 10:40 – Leaders who listen & learn 12:33 – Now That's a Great Question 14:35 – L.I.S.T.E.N. 17:44 – Questioning strategies 21:05 – Strengths & weaknesses 22:50 – Fragile athletes 24:49 – Fears: Natural & Learned 28:31 – Compass vs. Calendar 31:35 – Rest, recovery, & reflection 34:38 – Self-care 38:11 – Coaches' Academies 42:47 – Warming up with Doc 43:33 – Reaching out to Jeff 47:20 – Wrapping it up

In this second part of two content-rich episodes with former Executive Director of the American Swimming Coaches Association, John Leonard, we dive DEEPLY into the problems and history associated with the PED doping scandal in our sport. We hear John's opinion of age-group and high school coaches (high praise indeed!), and who would be on his "Mt. Rushmore of Swimming". Extremely enlightening! Email us: swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com Time line for the dynamite episode: 00:01 – Disclaimer 01:06 – How to be a Great Swim Parent 02:30 – Part II Preview 02:58 – PED's Panel 04:59 – How to “game” the system 08:04 – David Howman 09:00 – Phony testing schemes 10:10 – Performance anomalies 11:33 – Microdosing 13:26 – Systematic failure 14:01 – Losing faith in WADA 15:06 – Athletics Integrity Unit 17:48 – Dr. Lothar Kipke 20:48 – Government-sponsored programs 22:06 – '96 Atlanta Games 25:51 – From FINA to World Aquatics 28:15 – USADA 30:37 – FINA buying votes 33:15 – What hasn't changed? 35:24 – Coaching age groupers 38:09 – Mount Rushmore of swim coaching 44:17 – Wrapping it up Music credits: The Whip Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

From 1985 to 2020, "ASCA" and "John Leonard" were unmistakably linked. As Executive Director of the American Swimming Coaches Association for 35 years, Coach Leonard has been inextricably involved with American swimming at almost every level from LTS (Learn-to-Swim) to the US National Team, from local organization to battling athletic doping on an international scale. You ought to really enjoy this first of a two-part conversation with "Mr. ASCA." Email us: swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com Timeline for this episode, courtesy of Button: 00:01 – Disclaimer & banter 01:52 – ASCA mentoring 03:41 – Previewing Parts I & II 04:42 – Introducing John Leonard 05:06 – Syracuse Chargers:  Zero to Powerhouse 08:15 – Favorites 09:28 – ASCA Executive Director 11:35 – SwimAmerica 15:35 – Coach-owned clubs 17:08 – Coach certification & Walt Schlueter 22:10 – The Suit Wars 25:49 – Organization growth 30:00 – …but wait!  There's more! 30:26 – More ASCA mentoring & membership Music Credits: "Private Eye" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Longtime president of the Wisconsin Swimming Coaches Association and the next president of NISCA, Kyle Bedalov wandered into the Swim Talk Zoom Room recently and led us through a vast wonderland of thoughts and ideas. See the timeline below for your own personal roadmap through this audio delight! Email us: swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com =========================== Timeline for this above-average episode: 00:00:01 – Disclaimer & banter 00:02:40 – How to be a Great Swim Parent 00:04:01 – Introducing Kyle Bedalov 00:05:01 – Kicking off a new season 00:07:06 – Swimming south of the border 00:08:17 – WISCA site 00:11:58 – Wisconsin high school poll 00:14:24 – Just when I thought I was out… 00:18:03 – Competing through Covid-19 00:21:50 – Private schools into WIA 00:23:07 – Coaching your own 00:29:10 – Swimming at the next level 00:35:11 – Swim lesson PSA 00:36:40 – Social Media 00:42:55 – A day in the life… 00:45:35 – More social media 00:48:17 – The Question Behind the Question 00:51:35 – One Shot Wednesday 00:53:15 – Chop Wood Carry Water 00:54:32 – Future of NISCA leadership 00:59:19 – NISCA convention plans 01:00:36 – Archive, records, & A-A fixes 01:02:37 – NISCA podcast w/Rowdy 01:04:05 – Virtual awards banquet 01:06:16 – A2B guest roster 01:07:33 – Wrapping it up =========================== Music Credits:   [1] Hot Swing Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/   [2] Private Eye Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

In 2015, the University of Florida's Natalie Hinds was voted Freshman of the Year at the SEC Championships. That same year, she was part of the trio of Black women that swept the 100 free at the NCAA Div 1 Championships, a first-ever achievement. Five years after retiring and letting go of her Olympic dream, the 27-year-old swimmer mounted an incredible comeback, qualifying for her first Games as one of the oldest first-time American Olympic swimmers in history.   Join Bob and Dana as they visit with this amazing woman and find out how a little girl from Midland, Texas wound up on the Olympic Awards podium in Tokyo. Incredible story!   Email us: swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com   Timeline: 00:01 – Disclaimer & banter 01:41 – ASCA Mentoring 02:38 – Introducing Natalie Hinds 03:10 – Path to Tokyo 08:00 – Andy Korda/COM 11:16 – Florida Gators 14:48 – Georgia & Jack Bauerle 18:11 – Rowdy Gaines PSA 19:11 – Diversity & Culture 23:20 – Getting parents on board 26:00 – Opportunities & role models 30:11 – Elizabeth Beisel 32:21 – Rowdy's enthusiasm 34:10 – Rookie Veteran 35:00 – Escaping to water 37:36 – Drowning PSA 38:32 – Murray's Deli in Midland 40:11 – Learn-to-Swim in schools 45:04 – Competition & courage 51:59 – Trials vs. Games 56:43 – Wrapping it up   Music Credits:   [1] Hot Swing Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/   [2] Private Eye Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Photo of Natalie Hinds courtesy Peter Bick, Swimming World Magazine

What started as a Kickstarter campaign more than 10 years ago has grown into an incredible business with pace clocks, scoreboards, touchpads, starting devices, timing equipment, and even COWBELLS.   Join Bob and Dana as they have one of the most wide-ranging and fun interviews ever with SwimNerd's Nate Tschohl.   Email us at swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com   SwimNerd homepage: ⁠https://swimpractice.com/⁠ =========================== Episode Timeline: 00:00:01 – Disclaimer & banter 00:02:55 – SwimNerd Live 00:03:43 – Introducing Nate Tschohl 00:04:20 – Kickstarter 00:05:02 – Social media 00:06:26 – Inside w/Brett Hawke 00:11:15 – OD:  The Ol' Dirty 00:15:19 – The Big Swim Nerd 00:17:35 – Coach Nerd 00:19:17 – Basic Underwater Demolition School (BUDS)/SEAL 00:28:01 – Recovery 00:30:02 – What's new at SwimNerd? 00:37:00 – Splits/Times Top Secret? 00:38:23 – Pace clock idears 00:41:10 – Scoreboards:  Not just for meets! 00:45:09 – Needs more cowbell? 00:45:58 – Why green numbers? 00:48:15 – Blogging 00:50:00 – Rare artifacts 00:51:45 – Water safety 00:54:17 – Keeping kids alive 00:58:15 – Drowning Support Network 01:00:08 – All politics is local 01:00:52 – Plato:  A man is not learned until… 01:01:29 – Adding Capital to Young Australians 01:02:46 – Splash Pads replacing pools? 01:03:38 – Wrapping it up =========================== Facebook Drowning and Near-Drowning Support Groups:   Drowning Support Network Information ⁠https://www.facebook.com/DrowningSupportNetworkInformation/⁠   Drowning Support Network ⁠https://www.facebook.com/groups/DrowningSupportNetwork/⁠ =========================== Music Credits:   [1] Hot Swing Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/   [2] Private Eye Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ =========================== Griffith University Study "Early Years Swimming, Adding Capital to Young Australians" - The findings of a four-year project by the Griffith Institute for Educational Research, Laurie Lawrence's Kids Alive Swim Program and Swim Australia have surpassed expectations and indicate that swimming children have many advantages when starting school.   “The children were anywhere from six to 15 months ahead of the normal population when it came to cognitive skills, problem solving in mathematics, counting, language and following instructions.”   https://kidsalive.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/2013-EYS-Final-Report-30-July-13-JM.pdf ===========================   BONUS! Nate recalls a quote attributed to Plato that “every man is not learned until they can read, write and swim”. A quick search led us to the rationale behind that quote that “Plato thinks of both reading and swimming as things you learn through lessons, rather than naturally. The contrast is clear: babies learn to talk and walk on their own, but you have to teach children to read and to swim.”   For a further look at the interesting historical discussion, please click here for “Plato, Privilege, and the Pool”: https://eidolon.pub/plato-privilege-and-the-pool-b631e2e96c7e    

Coach Roy Snyder has been at the helm of the Wilson HS swim teams in Reading PA for over 60 years! Our visit with him is like strolling through a most impressive library. Join Bob and me as we are entertained and educated during this fascinating visit. We mentioned two external items in the podcast and promised to list them here. 1-The one-time-only Olympic event that might have put observers to sleep faster than listening to this podcast, the PLUNGE, is covered in great depth and style here: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240720-the-extinct-olympic-sport-that-was-the-dullest-of-all-time 2-One of the most heartwarming Olympic commercials explored a topic we discussed with Roy, that of kids following their passions and finding their joy, and is titled simply, "It's OK." We think it's BETTER than "OK"! https://youtu.be/aJSZSHmMj5Y?si=iu03vLxdeAU9142X Email us at swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com Timeline for this episode: 00:01 – Disclaimer & banter 00:33 – Join ASCA 02:26 – Abbott/Button Special 02:42 – Introducing Roy Snyder 03:17 – Origins of Wilson HS swimming 05:48 – A total program 06:39 – YMCA & HS highlights 08:26 – Depth = Dual Strength 09:40 – Day in the life of a WHS Bulldog 12:00 – One-man band? 14:00 – Aerobic wins 16:03 – Roy's start at Allentown HS 17:46 – Doc Counsilman & George Breen 19:23 – What hasn't changed? 21:05 – Breaststroke turns & finishes 25:58 – AD or AD? 30:33 – Assistant coach Alison Snyder 32:37 – Canadian Butterfly 33:17 – Plunge for Distance 36:03 – A look in the rearview 39:44 – Patience NOW!?!? 40:12 – Kristy Kowal 40:59 – Wrapping it up

Mike Murray returns for another visit on Swim Talk as he also returns to his HS alma mater, Albany (NY) Academies as head swim coach for boys and girls. Join him as he takes Bob and Dana through a wide range of topics, see the timeline below and jump on for another entertaining and informational romp!     Listen to Mike's own podcast, "Coaches Corner", here: ⁠https://rss.com/podcasts/coaches-corner/⁠     Email Swim Talk A2B at swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com     Mentioned on this episode: Chuck Warner's latest book, "How To Be a Great Swim Parent", is destined to become a favorite, maybe even a classic in the swimming and youth sports community. Available SOON in both hardcopy and audiobook format at ⁠www.chuckwarnerbooks.com⁠     Timeline for this episode:     00:01 – Disclaimer & banter 01:38 – ASCA membership & mentorship 03:04 – Introducing Mike Murray 03:42 – From Victor to Albany 05:01 – Victor's Burke & Wisner 07:09 – Saratoga Sharks & more 07:28 – Revolution at Albany Academy 09:39 – The elusive SwimNerd 10:11 – Building the Academy numbers 12:45 – Pandemic aftereffects 14:30 – Open water opportunities 15:00 – Orlando World Clinic 16:22 – Fitter & Faster 16:52 – ASCA leadership & education 19:10 – Special Forces group 21:30 – NCSA Junior Nats 23:10 – The move east 23:37 – The staff of thousands 26:31 – Work Works 30:25 – AA facility 31:36 – Gilbert Legaspi 32:23 – Enjoying the work 36:04 – Trusting the work 37:57 – SWOLF & Quadathlon 41:28 – Adirondack LSC 42:02 – USRPT 45:43 – Last 15m 47:04 – Rebuilding 49:22 – Chuck's new book

Longtime Lubbock swim guru Trey Hayes, also a past-president of TISCA, makes a leap east to take over aquatics in the Arlington ISD. How he got started, how he became a program builder, and his goals and aspirations for his new post smack-dab between Fort Worth and Dallas. Email us at swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com "Beard" links mentioned on this episode: https://westtexasbeardco.com/ https://dukecannon.com/ Timeline for this incredibly adequate episode: 00:01 – Disclaimer & Intro 01:19  – ASCA info 01:45 – Introducing Trey Hayes 02:20 – Coaching philosophy 05:41 – Balancing club & school coaching 07:02 – Working with Penny DiPomazio 07:48 – Lubbock via Amarillo 08:15 – Tim Estes 08:42 – Triathlons to swimming 09:05 – TJ Fry 09:39 – John Pittington & NLU 12:40 – The right fit 14:31 – Competing in 6A 15:55 – Virtual Club 18:43 – Elementary swim 24:54 – Arlington ISD water safety 26:25 – West Texas Beard Co. 27:05 – AISD high schools 28:21 – What hasn't changed? 30:21 – Ripping on USRPT 33:05 – Staff cooperation 35:11 – Late bloomers 36:10 – Sharing athletes 41:14 – Coaching your own 45:04 –West Texas pride 46:35 – Travel schedule 48:00 – Wrapping it up

After getting 50 episodes "in the can" (and a few in the garbage can), we wanted to take a retrospective look at our coaching beginnings and the steps we've taken along the way, as well as looking at our coaching organizations. It's slightly less yawn-inducing than one might think. Slightly. Our email: swimtalk.a2b@gmail.com (this is NEW) Timeline for this soporific episode: 00:01 – Disclaimer & Intro 01:44 – The Jay in Needville 01:58 – TISCA 03:54 – Lanny Landtroop & Co. 05:28 – TISCA:  Then & Now 10:50 – One Swim Classification to Three 25:36 – TISCA Leadership 29:31 – TISCA Clinic 30:51 – TISCA Treasurer 31:40 – Did ya hear the one about… 32:24 – Swim Shops of the Southwest 33:25 – Getting in a couple more digs 34:57 – Time Out! 35:22 – Kelcie at The Jay 36:10 – NISCA 37:25 – NISCA Leadership 39:00 – NISCA Journal 39:42 – NISCA Conference 40:56 – High school swim/dive rules 46:17 – NISCA at Men's NCAA D-I Champs 47:30 – Media Passes, Baby! 48:06 – Abbott meets Lochte 49:54 – The Lochte's at TISCA 51:10 – NISCA Membership 52:48 – Journal revisited 57:02 – ASCA World Clinic 58:30 – Is there a Track track? 58:49 – Wrapping it up

There are two types of announcers at major televised swim meets like NCAA Championships and US Olympic Trials: the big-time network pros in the nice upstairs booth who sit before the cameras with their play-by-play and color commentary, whose words get no immediate feedback or reaction, and then there are the solo announcers, usually on-deck with all of the attending media reps, communicating directly via the PA system with the seats in the stands, the ones whose job it is to provide more than names and numbers to the spectators on-site. Kevin Cargill is a former HS and college swimmer who has been mentioned as a possible successor to the big shoes and stellar heights reached by the late Sam Kendricks, "America's Swim Meet Announcer". Join us as we get to know this rising star in big-meet announcing! Email us at: swimtalk@outlook.com Timeline for this SPECTACULAR episode: 00:01 – Disclaimer & Banter 02:15 – The Jay in Needville 02:40 – Introducing Kevin Cargill 03:18 – Indy Trials highlights 05:12 – From swimming to announcing 10:10 – Tough Doubles 13:05 – Time Out 13:25 – Kelcie at The Jay 14:15 – '28 Los Angeles Games 16:40 – Public Address vs. Broadcast 21:51 – Out AFAP & Negative Splitting 22:55 – Reagan Smith WR call 24:14 – Omaha vs. Indy 26:52 – Gabrielle Rose 27:43 – Life away from the pool 29:06 – All-Taper Team 34:41 – Beyond the Podium 37:44 – Tough names 41:40 – Bloopers? 42:32 – Trials Stories 43:53 – Gretchen Walsh WR call 45:27 – Simone Manuel 50 free 47:05 – Mental health 51:50 – The great Sam Kendricks 53:13 – Wrapping it up

Mark Onstott has been extremely successful at every stop along his coaching career, but maybe none so successful as his two decades at one of the most storied public high school swimming legacies in the nation at Winnetka's (IL) New Trier High School. In Part 1 of our visit with Mark, we heard of his start in the sport. In Part 2, we pick up with his tenure at New Trier as Head Boys Coach, including NT's TWO National Championships, and the beginning years that led up to those incredible achievements. Email Swim Talk at swimtalk@outlook.com Episode 48 timeline: 00:01 – Disclaimer & Part II Intro 01:38 – The Jay in Needville 01:58 – Texas vs. Illinois high school training 03:33 – National Championships 05:26 – Dual Meet & JV Highlights 07:34 – 100 x 100's 10:55 – The Roller Coaster 13:43 – Scary Larry 14:18 – Space/Numbers Issues 16:33 – Restore UNI Panther Men? 19:46 – Kelcie at The Jay 20:39 – Ted Mullin & The Hour of Power 31:20 – What hasn't changed in coaching? 32:30 – Work Works & Opportunities 34:05 – Exhibition vs. Scoring 35:16 – Wrapping it up

Mark Onstott has been extremely successful at every stop along his coaching career, but maybe none so successful as his two decades at one of the most storied public high school swimming legacies in the nation at Winnetka's (IL) New Trier High School. In Part 1 of our visit with Mark, we hear of his start in the sport and his swimmer's journey from a young Red Cross lessons swimmer, to high school, to college, and then to his start in coaching, and all of the twists and turns a young coach could possibly encounter before winding up in charge of a boys program that ultimately won TWO Swimming World "mythical" National Championships. Quite a tale, and no one better to share it. Part 2 will be launched shortly as Episode 49, just as soon as we deal with Hurricane Beryl, since Bob and Dana both live in the direct Texas path of the storm! Email Swim Talk at swimtalk@outlook.com Episode 48 timeline: 00:01 – Disclaimer & banter 01:44 – Endless Pools plug 02:30 – Introducing Mark Onstott 02:55 – Road to the UNI Panther HOF 09:35 – Breaking into high school coaching 12:45 – Working the Jack Nelson camp 13:45 – Cypress, Texas calling! 16:10 – Brian Seifert “taper” 18:13 – Escape from CFHS 22:04 – New Trier hiring process 28:06 – Dynamite? 29:20 – Dave Robertson era 31:38 – Evanston rivalry 36:40 – Texas vs. Illinois high school rules 41:30 – Onstott Part II Preview

Former UT swimmer and now GM of famed Camp Longhorn in Burnet, Texas, Bill Robertson shares stories about his swimming career, his mom and dad, and the creation of legendary CAMP LONGHORN, one of the many creations of his father, "Tex" Robertson, the first swim coach at The University of Texas, also known as "the father of Texas swimming". A fascinating book about Tex, written by his grandson, is called simply "TEX: The Father of Texas Swimming", and details can be found at the end of this description. Bill was a sophomore on Eddie Reese's first team at Texas, and during his 3 years under Reese, the team finished at NCAAs in a tie for 21st, 2nd, and was NCAA Champions the third year. Quite a climb, and Bill shares some fascinating stories about that and a myriad of other topics. Sit back and have a listen! Timeline: 00:00 – Disclaimer & banter 01:40 – Introducing Camp Longhorn's Bill Robertson 03:18 – Swimming with Tex Robertson 05:03 – HOF:  How it started 10:15 – HOF:  How it's going 11:28 – Missing Sam Kendricks 12:28 – Legendary Camp Longhorn 14:55 – Pat Hudson Robertson 16:53 – Coming back for more 18:08 – Highland Lakes Challenge 19:20 – Tex:  The Father of Texas Swimming 21:15 – The Who's Who of swimming coaches 22:55 – Steve Hamm 24:37 – Dr. Steve Montgomery & Bob Leland 25:15 – High school invites in Burnet 26:53 – Bill Rob's smooth freestyle 27:52 – Carol Borgmann Robertson 29:05 – More Camp Longhorn 33:20 – Ninth Year Ring 34:27 – Tex flies the staff to NCAA's 35:30 – Everybody's famous at camp 36:56 – KP = Kitchen Patrol 39:50 – More on Pat 41:14 – Splash Magazine & TAGS 41:37 – Emmett Hines 42:32 – Team building & The Mile 44:04 – The Blob 48:50 – Aqua-Carnivals 51:31 – Gregory Gym to Texas Swim Center 52:43 – Patterson to Reese 55:43 – Great coaches & teammates 57:47 – Chris Del Conte (CDC) 58:28 – Reese to Bowman 59:59 – Wrapping it up Links to topics mentioned: "TEX: The Father of Texas Swimming", is available on Amazon and in many online and brick/mortar bookstores: https://www.amazon.com/Tex-Father-Swimming-Ross-Lucksinger/dp/1492214922 CAMP LONGHORN

Behind the scenes at TCU with the highly entertaining and successful coach of Texas Christian University for 38 years, Richard Sybesma. More discussion topics than you could shake a Navy SEAL telephone pole at! See Bob's timeline below (and the links that follow the timeline, mentioned in this eye-opening episode) for a wide-ranging chronicle of this Horned Frog mentor and cheerleader. Email Swim Talk A2B: swimtalk@outlook.com Timeline: 00:00– Disclaimer & banter 01:47– Introducing TCU's Richard Sybesma 02:55– Getting started Andrews, Texas 05:23– On to Texas Tech 07:58– Coaching start in Monahans 09:22– TCU:  Right Place/Right Time 11:37– Sticking with the Horned Frogs 13:15– Remembering the AIAW years 15:25– '96 Atlanta w/Walter Soza 16:22– '02 Salt Lake City torch runner 17:05– Conference USA All-Sport COTY 18:06– Nathan Lin signing at TCU 19:18– Facility:  Doing more with less 20:24– Into the Big XII 21:15– New facility on the horizon? 22:04– It can be done:  Forest Park Pool 24:01– Fort Worth Swimming Frogs 26:54– Balmorhea State Park Pool 29:20– International travel & connections 32:11– Richard's Coaching Family Tree 35:30– Dana's UT assistant years 37:52– Look like an athlete! 38:40– Sneaking fun into the work & travel 41:15– Altitude/Attitude 42:45– Navy SEAL Training 44:18– Lessons & water safety 46:35– Retirement = Work 48:13 – Wrapping it up Link to Nathan Lin YouTube video: https://youtu.be/5KRqeDzwNP4?si=7sjo1z7vfek2iIqb "Former TCU Swim Coach Richard Sybesma Teaches Underserved Kids How to Swim": https://fwtx.com/news/features/former-tcu-swim-coach-richard-sybesma-teaches-underserved-ki/ "Program Helps Kids In and Out of Pool" (2015) https://gofrogs.com/news/2015/7/28/Program_Helps_Kids_In_and_Out_of_Pool

Continuing to rebuild and improve the women-only team for the Indiana State Sycamores (the "Fighting Trees"), Josh shares his story and the current state of affairs at the mighty state school in Terre Haute. Mentions and links: Indiana State Swimming https://gosycamores.com/sports/womens-swimming-and-diving Email Coach Josh Christensen Joshua.Christensen@indstate.edu 3S Super Sport Systems https://supersportsystems.com/ Order Sycamore Swimming apparel HERE: https://shop.gosycamores.com/collections/swimming-diving Podcast timeline: 00:00 – Disclaimer & banter 01:53 – ASCA plug 02:21 – Introducing ISU's Josh Christensen 02:40 – Sycamore roundball 04:25 – Josh's start in the sport 06:33 – Any adjustments from D-II to D-I? 07:48 – Missouri Valley Conference 09:38 – Where does ISU recruit? 11:22 – Facilities 13:05 – Will the men's program return? 14:01 – Fundraising & NIL 14:56 – Local high schools & clubs 16:17 – Rose-Hulman brainiacs 16:46 – Pros & Cons of men/women 20:07 – Early season 20:51 – Super Sport Systems (3S) 26:00 – Building the roster 29:33 – ISU & academics 30:50 – Supporting the program 34:30 – Wrapping it up

We visited with former UT All American and team captain Darrell Fick (UT Class of 1978) on his background, UT experience, and his coaching path from Alief ISD to First Colony, to women's coach at USC working alongside Peter Daland. Much information about the NIL and the Texas One Fund, and how YOU can help your alma mater or favorite swimming program. Timeline courtesy of Texas Swimming: 00:00 – Disclaimer & limited banter 01:48 – Eddie Reese Audiobook excerpts 02:38 – New Chuck Warner Books Offer 04:04 – Introducing Darrell Fick 04:22 – Darrell's start in swimming 05:52 – Texas years & new pool 07:56 – Coaching start in Alief 09:00 – First Colony 10:50 – Love of the sport 11:55 – Texas Senior Circuit 14:50 – NIL & Texas One Fund 19:59 – Agent involvement 22:48 – NIL in high school 26:34 – Coaching Deals 27:23 – Athlete Deals 28:10 – Swim Center bulkhead 29:23 –Texas One Fund & rule changes 31:22 – Branding & Open Doors 33:30 – Swimnerd pace clocks 34:23 – HOKA shoes 36:26 – Katy Tigers & summer leagues 37:31 – Eddie's successor? 38:20 – Working around schedules 39:25 – NIL compliance 40:42 – Moving to the SEC 42:32 – Conference meet emphasis 44:44 – NCAA Portal & free agency 46:22 – RIP NCAA? 48:55 – Getting the 400 IM home 50:51 – Wrapping it up 51:19 – Support your school's fund

Jennifer LaMont became ASCA CEO in 2021, swam her HS years in Ohio for Walnut Hills HS, and club at the Cincinnati Marlins under Denny Pursley (a former guest on SwimTalk) and Frank Busch before heading west to become a USC Trojan. She was a HS state champion at WHHS, and a collegiate All American at USC. Her leadership at ASCA is taking the coaching organization in new and expanded directions, and we think to great heights. You WILL enjoy this visit with Jennifer LaMont!

Former head coach at Tulane, Ohio, and NC State, as well as assistant to Bob Boettner at Clemson and the legendary Eddie Reese at Texas, veteran NCAA coach Scott Hammond covers a wide-ranging cornucopia of topics with our stalwart hosts, from his beginning days as a young multi-sport athlete to his storied NCAA coaching career. Check the timeline below and prepare to be wowed with his experience and star-studded tales. His tongue-in-cheek goal for this episode was to be better than his close friend, Chuck Warner ("America's Best Swimming Author"). Let us know what you think at swimtalk@outlook.com 00:00 - Disclaimer & the usual banter   01:27 - The Jay Cafe in Needville, Texas   01:45 - Is this thing on?   02:26 - RIP John Pittington   02:42 - Introducing Scott Hammond   04:15 - How Scott got into our sport   06:35 - Any hope for Clemson reboot?   07:25 - From Clemson to Austin   09:27 - Orange/White Meets   11:25 - Then & Now 16:06 - RIP Don Easterling   17:58 - Braden Holloway   23:14 - Chuck Raburn, Richard Sybesma, & Beverly Ball   24:54 - Racquetball & more with Eddie Reese   28:11 - Impact of coaches   29:57 - Future of conferences   31:55 - Transfer Portal & NIL   34:47 - Recruiting, poaching, and foreign athletes   37:49 - Life as a Texas assistant coach   45:30 - H&L Swim Academy   47:17 - Glenn Patton   48:25 - RIP Sam Freas   49:47 - Katy's Sheila Reeves   51:30 - Coaching over the decades   54:00 - Sprint Championship   55:40 - Equipment builders   57:10 - What's in a name?   59:52 - Closing it out

Bob engages the authors of the internationally acclaimed five-star book, EDDIE REESE: COACHING SWIMMING, TEACHING LIFE in a wide-ranging discussion of inside stories on the creation and production of the January 2024 release of the audiobook version, as well as hearing Chuck's views and perspectives on the last season of Texas Longhorn men's swimming and diving with legendary Coach Eddie Reese at the helm. Over forty minutes of in-depth, behind the scenes GOLD. Chuck shares the bonus of receiving the audiobook FREE with the purchase of the collectible hardcover edition of ERCSTL, only available at www.areteswim.com, click below for this special offer. https://www.areteswim.com/product-page/eddie-reese-coaching-swimming-teaching-life-hard-cover ------------------------------------------------------------ Episode timeline, courtesy of Stone Cold: 00:00 – Disclaimer & the usual banter 01:45 – Eddie Reese book & special offer 02:15 – Welcome Chuck Warner & post-Covid 03:13 – New Jersey Swim Safety Alliance 04:55 – Why an Audiobook? 06:37 – Getting Eddie on board 08:45 – NCAA D-I rankings & predictions 12:30 – Audiobook logistics 15:55 – Skip this part, Jeri 16:25 – Practice & perform 21:32 – The epilogue & reflections 23:02 – What isn't in the book? 24:15 – Shaun Jordan's wardrobe malfunction 28:27 – No volume 2? 29:30 – Educating coaches 32:12 – More on the special offer 33:41 – Eddie's Last Hurrah 37:00 – Big XII or NCAA reunion? 40:43 – Wrapping it up

An outstanding high school swimmer, Jason Devine did not start coaching until almost 15 years after graduating from Katy (TX) High School. Despite that late start, he progressed in his career on a meteoric rise, earning Gulf Swimming LSC's Age Group Coach of the Year not just once, not twice, but three times. Approaching 20 years in the coaching world now, Jason has served roles as Head Age Group Coach at Katy Aquatics, DADS Club, and Rice Aquatics. He served as a board member for Gulf Swimming for 6 years and was the TAGS representative for Gulf Swimming for 4 years. He has been selected to be on several Gulf travel teams and has run a clinic for the Gulf LSC. His passion for coaching and skill-driven teaching methods has earned him recognition as the Gulf LSC Age Group Coach of the Year in 2012, 2015 and 2016. Jason has experience coaching Masters, and Developmental Age Groupers through National level swimmers. Under his coaching his swimmers have excelled at all levels of competitions. Jason has coached swimmers to Jr. National (Winter and NCSA), Sectional, and USA Top 10 recognition every season for 7 years straight while having multiple individual and relay TAGS champions.  Coach Jason's highest national ranking for swimmers in his group was the 2017 11-12 girls 200 Free long course relay which finished #1 in the country.  “I pride myself on connecting with my athletes, teaching, educating and motivating them to reach their full potential in and out of the water. I truly love what I do.”

This episode of Swim Talk A2B features Avery Adams. [content timeline follows] Avery hails from Kentucky where he got his first head swim coach job at the Palomar Hills Piranhas summer swim team. Since that first dip in the coaching pool, his coaching credentials have carried him to multiple positions in Kentucky, including the University of Kentucky, Wildcat Aquatics, Lakeside Seahawks, as well as coaching positions with several USA Zone and National Select Camps. For the past 7 years he has called South Carolina home. His latest ventures established Elevate Coaching Services and the Performance Swim Academy, also in Charleston, where he focuses on delivering not only coaching but tangible, transformative results, working with teams, LSCs, individual swimmers of all ages, and families, as well as international teams and governing bodies. Instagram: elevate_swim_academy Facebook: Elevate Coaching Services URL: www.elevatetheprocess.com email: avery@elevatetheprocess.com ================================== Content timeline (fairly accurate!) Our visit with Elevate Performance Swim Academy's Avery Adams 00:40 – Background of Avery Adams 02:25 – Eddie Reese book plug 02:55 – Welcome Avery Adams 03:25 – Focus on squat technique 07:30 – Athlete to coach ratio 08:50 – Elevate Performance Swim Academy 10:19 – Air Force Academy's James Winterfield 13:00 – Building relationships 15:40 – Individual sessions, evaluations, & warm-up 18:20 – Multi-sport background 19:25 – Lakeside SeaHawks & Vern Gambetta (GAIN) 20:00 – Body line as linkage/connection 21:15 – Innovation & reaction time 23:55 – Sprinting & set design 26:15 – Sprinting & muscle tissue recruitment 29:10 – Sprinting vs. AFAP 30:05 – What drives long axis strokes?  Short axis? 31:40 – Teaching “gears” 34:50 – Gamification 37:35 – Overcoming limitations 40:15 – A few favorite drills 46:10 – Finishing races (last 15m) 49:35 – Wrapping up & contact info

Bob coached Madison in club swimming and has followed her from her high school and collegiate swimming career to her current position as an influential developmental coach for intermediate to advanced age-groupers in the 9-12 year age groups at Swim Fort Lauderdale (SFTL). A collegiate NCAA All American at Nova Southeastern, Madison continues to make a difference in our sport, and we had a rollicking good chat with her on December 22.

Bonnie returns for her THIRD interrogation and grilling by our intrepid podcast heroes to give a review of the 2023 Walmart OZ Mile Swim. The Walmart OZ Mile Swim is an open water race that offers participants and spectators a full weekend of fun in beautiful Northwest Arkansas with festivities centered around swimming. SwimTalk co-host Bob Button participated in the Mile Swim this past September after successfully eluding sharks, a crowded field, the frigid choppy waters of San Francisco Bay, and Alcatraz Island in his rear-view mirror in August. Bonnie and Bob share storytelling about the OZ Mile with some interesting behind-the-scenes tidbits. Join them!

Andy Korda has done almost all of it, from coaching learn-to-swim and summer team all the way up to Jr/Sr Nationals, Olympic Trials, and was hugely responsible for guiding the development of Midland's Natalie Hinds into a 20x NCAA All American and 2020 Olympic medalist for Team USA. Andy was coached by Dana and Bob from the age of 10 through high school in Katy, TX, and reunites with them here for an enjoyable and educational review of how to coach better and how he got to where he is now, one of the best club coaches in America. Email Swim Talk at swimtalk@outlook.com Swim Talk is ranked #7 out of over 450 swimming podcasts in the WORLD (as per feedspot.com), and #5 in the USA!

In the mid-1980s we coached an age group team in west Houston, Western Horizon Aquatic Team ("WHAT"), in a then-small town called Katy. One of our "tweens" was a skinny little towhead named Lawrence "L.D." Romine. He was talented and worked hard and then, like the Clampetts, packed up and moved to Californy and that was the last we heard of him. Until January of 2022, when we got an email that knocked our Hokas off. Listen to our chat with Lawrence as he explains what happened in the intervening years, from hearing for the first time from him that he HATED swimming, to an adventure in the Navy that helped launch him on a career in electronics, and then what turned him back on to swimming. His reflections border on an epiphany and his ability to draw on lessons we tried to instill in him and every other kid we have coached over the years. It was gratifying to hear his comments and memories, and it was a lot of fun. Give a listen! Email SwimTalk: swimtalk@outlook.com

[Description from Bonnie's first visit to SwimTalk in Episode 30] An in-depth look at conceptualizing and developing an open water swimming event in the beautiful Ozark vacation area of Beaver Lake, Arkansas. Bonnie Adams has a 3 decade career in teaching swimming to all ages and abilities. A former HS and collegiate swimmer at the University of Arkansas, Bonnie has a passion for all swimming, but especially Masters and open water, and the SWIM OZ event on the last weekend of September every year is THE place to go for OW (open water) swimmers and their families. Email us at Swim Talk: swimtalk@outlook.com Links: https://www.ozmileswim.com/ https://www.midmarmile.co.za/ https://thejoysofswimming.com/about/ Music Credits: Beach Bum Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Mike Waldmann was Swim Talk's VERY FIRST podcast guest in the summer of 2020, and returns for a second visit to share the events and circumstances surrounding his boys team capturing the VERY FIRST Texas UIL 4A-under STATE CHAMPIONSHIP! We also reminisce and reflect on the recent passing of yet another dear friend, great coach, and Texas coaching legend, Steve Montgomery, affectionately known to all as "Dr. Steve." His importance and distinguished life and career cannot be overstated. He was ... terrific.

In 2009, after almost 40 years of being a sport at Kutztown University, the AD met with head coach Tim Flannery to bluntly tell him the men's program was being cut, effective immediately. The "reason" was based on "[the] current economic situation" and as the result of an outside "funding study" on the intercollegiate athletic program, the then-director of athletics and the then-VP of Student Services and Campus Life recommended to the university president discontinuing the sports of men's swimming and men's soccer because cutting those sports presented "the right combination of financial savings, Title IX proportionality, and impact on the overall athletic program." No one should overlook the mention of "Title IX proportionality". It's ALL about Title IX, and "finances" and other cited reasons are just convenient and useful camouflage. A change in school administration that saw the exit of all three university positions mentioned above in 2020, 2011, and 2014, respectively, saw the arrival of a new president (Dr. Kenneth Hawkinson) that fully supported athletics and an AD (Renee Hellert) that did her own number and data-crunching to examine the impact of dropping/restoring men's swimming. To that we say, HOORAY! Listen to Coach Flannery as he shares the inside story! Press release on reinstatement of men's swimming program at Kutztown: https://kubears.com/news/2022/12/12/mens-swimming-kutztown-university-to-add-mens-swimming-as-its-23rd-varsity-sport.aspx Link to recruiting questionnaire for women's swimming here: https://questionnaires.armssoftware.com/58b54ddd3762 Link to recruiting questionnaire for men's swimming here: https://questionnaires.armssoftware.com/3268ccef36a0 Original story on dropping the men's program: https://www.swimcloud.com/news/2009/mar/31/kutztown-becomes-cuts-town-eliminates-swimming/ Story in Swimming World on reinstatement of men's program: https://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/news/kutztown-university-to-reinstate-mens-swimming-in-2024-25/ Buy a copy of "EDDIE REESE: Coaching Swimming, Teaching Life" for yourself or as a gift HERE: www.eddiereesebook.com MUSIC CREDITS The Whip by Kevin MacLeod Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/4515-the-whip License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license "There It Is" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

An in-depth look at conceptualizing and developing an open water swimming event in the beautiful Ozark vacation area of Beaver Lake, Arkansas. Bonnie Adams has a 3 decade career in teaching swimming to all ages and abilities. A former HS and collegiate swimmer at the University of Arkansas, Bonnie has a passion for all swimming, but especially Masters and open water, and the SWIM OZ event on the last weekend of September every year is THE place to go for OW swimmers and their families. Email us at Swim Talk: swimtalk@outlook.com Links: https://www.ozmileswim.com/ https://www.midmarmile.co.za/ https://thejoysofswimming.com/about/ Music Credits: The Whip by Kevin MacLeod Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/4515-the-whip License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

Bob and Dana finally catch up with famed Hungarian Champion and Olympian, double US Nationals Champion, and NCAA Division I (U of Arizona) swimmer Norbert Agh and talk to him about the secrets behind over 40 years of Hungarian international swimming success, the old but still new StrokeMax "anti-paddle", and hear Norbert share his views on why he thinks the United States is such a remarkable country. ========== Email us at Swim Talk: swimtalk@outlook.com ========== You can contact Norbert and learn about his StrokeMax anti-paddles (and order them) from www.strokemax.com ========== Music credits: The following music was used for this media project: Music: The Winner Is (Quizpackage) by Sascha Ende Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/227-the-winner-is-quizpackage License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Artist website: https://www.sascha-ende.de Music: Wallpaper by Kevin MacLeod Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/4604-wallpaper License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Artist website: https://incompetech.com Music: The Whip by Kevin MacLeod Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/4515-the-whip License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Artist website: https://incompetech.com

Athletes get many kudos in life. The spotlight is on them from an early age. Some excel through high school. Some go on to star in college. A few make it to the pros. But, there are many facets to being an athlete. A Texas newspaper, The Victoria Advocate (www.victoriaadvocate.com), wanted to highlight student athletes, and for the 2018-2019 school year created an event and program called the Varsity Cup. The city of Victoria is located on the coastal plains of Texas about 50 mi from the Gulf of Mexico and is a two-hour drive from Corpus Christi, Houston, San Antonio, and Austin, and therefore known as the Crossroads area of Texas. The Varsity Cup was designed to honor the best student athletes in the Crossroads. These kids excel not only at sports but also must maintain a 3.0 GPA and excel in volunteerism and extracurricular activities. The initial crop of nominees were outstanding student athletes – smart, bright, and eager to serve their communities. They helped rebuild their communities after Hurricane Harvey, fed the homeless, counseled youth groups, mentored elementary students, served Thanksgiving meals, worked at women's crisis centers and helped the elderly. They were active in their churches and did many other non-athletic school activities, such as National Honor Society and 4-H. Their list of accomplishments was mind-boggling. For the first Varsity Cup, about 600 students and parents attended the awards event. The principal sponsor of the Varsity Cup is American Shield Roofing and Construction (https://americanshieldroofing.com/) and on this episode of SwimTalk A2B, we interview Jon Lamson, VP of Sales for American Home Shield. Some editorial material courtesy of The Victoria Advocate. MUSIC CREDITS River Valley Breakdown by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4295-river-valley-breakdown License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Corncob by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3554-corncob License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

In this conclusion to a fun and wide-ranging visit with Pat, we hear about how to take the reins of an interim coaching position without disrupting the flow and general scheme of things while still elevating and enhancing the program until the new coach arrives. We also venture into an enjoyable discussion of general coaching philosophies, focusing on the really important non-technical aspects of coaching and teaching, considering more extensively the consideration and critical value of teaching life lessons, and top it off with why we need to treat our jobs as a PROFESSION, and acting and presenting ourselves likewise. Email SwimTalk A2B: swimtalk@outlook.com Email Patrick Henry: swimcoachstaffingsolutions@yahoo.com Jobs: https://texasswimming.blogspot.com/search/label/Jobs Music Credits: Corncob by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3554-corncob License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ River Valley Breakdown by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Listen to Patrick as he details the functions and operations of his business, Swim Coach Staffing Solutions, a means of connecting teams needing interim or new coaches, and coaches looking for a job with teams. Email Patrick: swimcoachstaffingsoutions@yahoo.com Take a look at over 30 job postings presented on the Texas Swimming Blog (texasswimming.blogspot.com) Listen to Patrick, Bob, and Dana discuss philosophy about connecting with swimmers and teaching life lessons through the sport. One of our top "almost better than mediocre" broadcasts!

Join Bob and Dana as they give the third-degree to famed writer for Swimming World Magazine and former state championship coach at The Collegiate School in Richmond, VA, Mike Stott. A dynamic background in media relations allows Mike to share insights and suggestions on getting more media coverage for HS swim teams. Grab hold and hang on tight as the SwimTalk co-pilots steer Mike through territory guaranteed to help make your media approach and relations stronger. ========== Email us at Swim Talk: swimtalk@outlook.com ========== You can email Mike Stott at michaeljstott@comcast.net Mike's book about country club golf life, TOO MUCH LOFT, is available at Amazon and in fine bookstores everywhere. Contact Ron Blanc: BlancRon@smhs.org; cell 949-766-6096 Contact Todd Larkin: LarkinT@saintxfac.com ========== Music credits: Corncob by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3554-corncob License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Join Bob and Dana as they chat with Greg Earhart, Executive Director of the College Swimming and Diving Coaches of America, the CSCAA (www.cscaa.org), as they discuss: The 2021 CSCAA Annual Convention, held online in virtual format this year; College swim finances; Recruiting in the Pandemic Era; and "Is it true that almost ANY high school swimmer can find a college to swim at?" (Ans.: TRUE!) ========== Email us at Swim Talk: swimtalk@outlook.com Sign up for the 2021 CSCAA Virtual Convention here. ========== Music credits: Welcome to the Show by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4614-welcome-to-the-show License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ There It Is by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/4519-there-it-is License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Join Bob and Dana and their first repeat guest, Sam Kendricks, "America's Swim Meet Announcer" as they discuss: The 2021 NCAA Women's and Men's Swimming and Diving Championships; Covid protocols and the NCAAs; Eddie Reese's retirement and his impact on the world of swimming; A remembrance of the late Kevin Polansky, another great voice of NCAA swim meets; The origin of Sam's signature "Boom Shakalaka!" [Sam Kendricks photo courtesy of Peter Bick] ========== Email us at Swim Talk: swimtalk@outlook.com Purchase "EDDIE REESE: Coaching Swimming, Teaching Life" at www.eddiereesebook.com ========== Music credits: Welcome to the Show by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4614-welcome-to-the-show License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ The Whip by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4515-the-whip License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license There It Is by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/4519-there-it-is License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Corncob by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3554-corncob License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Following is the episode segment timeline, sort of like a Table of Contents, but... we think you should really listen to the whole show!. Timeline 00.00 Intro and guest background 06.40 WELCOME, Coach Pursley 07.10 IN THEIR OWN WORDS: "My career and journey..." 12.20 Family: Child following the coaching footsteps; coaching your own kids 18.20 Tokyo Olympics and 1980 Boycott 26.30 Mission Viejo Nadadores vs. Cincinnati Marlins? 27.10 More on 1980 Boycott and advice to today's swimmers on uncertain futures 31.40 SEC Women: Parity finally? Also, observations on current 'Bama program and HS programs 35.35 ISL Bubble approach; Is Covid as big a threat to athletes as we are being warned? 38.10 Non-health aspects of Tokyo Olympics 39.15 WW2 loss of '40 and '44 Olympics and the uncertain career longevity of an Olympic athlete 41.45 Coach Pursley discusses his book "PEP TALKS", how it relates to the culture in swimming and society 50.00 Retirement is good! 52.05 Coach Don Gambril; self-learning through reading and books 55.05 Promoting and perpetuating the history of our sport 57.00 A bit more on "PEP TALKS" 59.10 How to contact Coach Pursley 59.35 Coach Don Gambril's first team meeting at 'Bama 1.01.10 Swim coaches and SHARING 1.02.20 Wrap-up and info on purchasing "PEP TALKS" 1.05.13 HEAD FOR THE FRIDGE! ========== Email Coach Pursley at: dennispursley@outlook.com Purchase "Pursley's Pep Talks" from ISHOF at https://halloffameswimshop.com/collections/books/products/pep-talks-by-dennis-pursley Email us at Swim Talk: swimtalk@outlook.com Purchase "EDDIE REESE: Coaching Swimming, Teaching Life" at www.eddiereesebook.com ========== Music credits: Welcome to the Show by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4614-welcome-to-the-show License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Beach Bum by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3428-beach-bum License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Super Polka by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/4443-super-polka License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license There It Is by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/4519-there-it-is License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Strength Of The Titans by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/5744-strength-of-the-titans License: https://filmmusic.io/standard-license

Join the boys as they wade through Episode 21 without a guest, and launch an expedition that covers these topics: o The Annual General Meeting (Conference) of NISCA; o Virtual clinic offerings from ASCA; o A quick look at HS swimming championship seasons across the US; o the annual Swimming and Diving Rules Survey from the NFHS; o killed-off NCAA Div I swim program reinstated; o some comments and reflections about Title IX and so-called "revenue sports" Music credits: Welcome to the Show by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4614-welcome-to-the-show License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ NewsSting by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4124-newssting License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Beach Bum by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3428-beach-bum License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Email us at: swimtalk@outlook.com Email Mike Koleber at: mike@nitroswim.com (He replies promptly!) IN THIS EPISODE: 3:10 Background 7:45 Shoutouts to our HS coaches! 9:55 2021 Short Course T.A.G.S. (Texas Age Group Swimming Championships) 13:45 TAGS: Meet attendance and financial considerations 16:15 COVID impact on swim lesson programming 20:45 MOXIE SODA advert! (you'll love it!) 22:45 Swim lesson programming, continued 29:45 Mistakes swim coaches make 32:45 Warmup and warmdown - wasteful? 33:15 Obstacles to purposeful and mindful coaching 39:45 Searching for a new ASCA CEO; an update 44:30 Summer leagues! 45:45 Olympic "Bump" killed by COVID "Crater"? 48:45 Thinking of starting your own team? 51:00 Mission and Vision Statements - How to implement; Joy in your job 57:00 Mike's path to ASCA leadership; giving back; Mike's management style 63:25 ABSOLUTES (A regular Swim Talk feature) 66:05 Rescuing kids from the COVID "Crater" 69:30 Low-density meets putting strain on officiating resources; solutions 73:15 What we gain, what we retain from our swimming experience 79:15 Advert for ASCA virtual clinic Jan 28-30, 2021 (https://swimmingcoach.org/portfolio/preparing-for-the-championship-season/) MUSIC CREDITS: Welcome to the Show by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4614-welcome-to-the-show License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Funk Game Loop by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/3787-funk-game-loop License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Corncob by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3554-corncob License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Email us at: swimtalk@outlook.com ISHOF CEO/President and longtime publisher of Swimming World Magazine, Brent Rutemiller, joins Bob and Dana this episode and shares his coaching journey, current status of the MASSIVE renovation project going on at ISHOF (including an almost-90ft diving tower!), the Tokyo Olympics and NCAAs, and the heretofore unshared background on that incredible swimmer sculpture that has been the iconic landmark for the Museum since 1973. Bob and Dana also take you behind the scenes at Swim Talk for a look at how their amazing commercials ("adverts" to you Brits following us) are conceived and generated, including the flubs and outtakes. Episode Music Credits: Welcome to the Show by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4614-welcome-to-the-show License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Corncob by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3554-corncob License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Email us at: swimtalk@outlook.com Join us as Dana talks about: *her background and coaching journey *her mentors and age-group coaching philosophy *her positive attitude and struggling with an inner negative voice *developing accountability and responsibility in age-groupers *importance of technique *work-life balance for coaches *her new project about mothers of daughters in sport Dana Skelton is the lead coach for the First Colony area Age Group 1 and the Head Developmental Coach (Note: She is the lead coach of Age Group 1, not the FCST Head AG Coach. Our error). Dana is an ASCA Level 3 certified coach, has served as the FCST rep for Gulf Masters, served on the Southern Zone Select Camp coaching staff, served on the Meet Task Force for Gulf Swimming, currently serving as Committee Chair for the Texas Select Camp, and served on the coaching staff for 2 Texas All Star Camp coaching staffs. Dana has lead athletes to Gulf Champs, TAGS, Sectionals, and Junior National cuts. These accomplishments have also lead to multiple TAGS event winners. Dana was on the coaching staff for the East Bay Bat Rays in Hayward, California. Working with the Bat Rays was her introduction in to USA Swimming and kick-started her love of coaching, working with young swimmers, and learning what it means to be a great coach. She has a Bachelors and Masters degree in Kinesiology from California State University, East Bay. Dana enjoys spending time with her husband and 3 daughters. Hobbies include working out, being crafty/creative, and education to continue improving herself. Contact info for Coach Dana Skelton: Social Media: danaskelton_coaching (Instagram) CoachDana Skelton (Facebook) Girls Striving Through Sport (Facebook) girls striving through sport (Instagram) Email: dana.skelton12@gmail.com * * * * * * * * * * Episode Music Credits: Welcome to the Show by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4614-welcome-to-the-show License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Corncob by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3554-corncob License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Email us at: swimtalk@outlook.com This episode brought to you by www.eddiereesebook.com Wendy Mader won the Women's Amateur Division at the 2008 World Ironman Championship in Kona, Hawaii. She swam at Eastern Michigan University 1992-95 and is currently the head USA club coach at Lifetime Woodstock (GA). She coached high school swimming in Fort Collins, CO for 9 years before moving to her current home outside of Atlanta, has competed in triathlon for 28 seasons, and been a triathlon coach for 21 years. She was recently featured in the December 8, 2020 issue of The Wall Street Journal in a regular feature, "Anatomy of a Workout" by WSJ writer Jen Murphy. Wendy has a wide presence on most social media, her contact info is listed below. (She answers emails promptly!) https://t2coaching.com/ sign up for Wendy's weekly newsletter Facebook profile and page https://www.facebook.com/wendy.mader.7 https://www.facebook.com/t2coach Endurance Hour Youtube for content https://www.youtube.com/c/EnduranceHour/videos Free Run and Swim Video Analysis https://www.instagram.com/t2coachwendy/ https://twitter.com/t2coachwendy www.getfit-getststrong-getfast-getwendy.com (beachbody site) Episode Music Credits: Welcome to the Show by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4614-welcome-to-the-show License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Corncob by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3554-corncob License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Email us at: swimtalk@outlook.com Chuck Warner bio HERE (you really ought to read it!): https://www.areteswim.com/about "How To Write A Book 101" The backstories to: Four Champions, One Gold Medal And Then They Won Gold EDDIE REESE: Coaching Swimming, Teaching Life (Book purchase info HERE: https://www.areteswim.com/books) The Eddie Reese legacy at The University of Texas - Building a program, growing the culture, always the upward path The old Southwest Conference The heartbreak of college programs dropped - Can anything be done to save not just swimming, but ALL high school sports at state universities? - What about college programs? Endowments? Learn about and/or contribute to the mentioned Eddie Reese and Kris Kubik Men's Swimming and Diving Legacy Campaign Contribute HERE: The University of Texas Men's Swimming & Diving Legacy Fund More in-depth behind-the-scenes discussion and stories of what went into the research and writing of ERCSTL ("the Eddie Reese book") Impacts and ramifications of the pandemic shutdowns on swimming Importance and significance of social media on political decisions - no one likes to be embarrassed! Coach Warner opines on his absolutes in competitive swimming. Music credits: Welcome to the Show by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4614-welcome-to-the-show License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Corncob by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3554-corncob License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ There It Is by Kevin MacLeod Link: https://filmmusic.io/song/4519-there-it-is License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Philosopher Quote courtesy of Last Man Standing (Tim Allen). Last Man Standing is a joint production by 21 Laps-Adelstein Productions, NestEgg Productions, and 20th Television. It is also syndicated by 20th Television.