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T minus 20
This week is B-A-N-A-N-A-S: planes, trains and Hollaback Girls

T minus 20

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 23, 2025 80:06 Transcription Available


Phone a Friend with Jessi Cruickshank
Hollaback Evan (ft. Pedro Pascal & Jennifer Aniston, Mariah Carey & Anderson Paak, Channing Tatum, White Sneakers and 2000's Pop Girls)

Phone a Friend with Jessi Cruickshank

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 27, 2025 49:37


Does wearing White Sneakers mean you don't fornicate? Are Pedro Pascal and Jennifer Aniston Secretly DATING? Does Evan know ANY pop songs from the 2000's? All of these IMPORTANT questions will be answered (and MORE) on this week's mid-season banger! First, Jessi puts her husband to the test to see if he can identify pop girl bangers from the 2000's - and you WILL BE AS SHOCKED by the results as she was. Then, do we SHIP hot new couples or hope that they consciously un-ship? Jessi weighs in on Jessica Simpson and Jeremy Renner, Mariah Carey and Anderson Paak and gives her take on Pedro Pascal and Jennifer Aniston's dinner date, and why Jen is not looking to eat him for dessert. Speaking of delicious morsels, Channing Tatum is our first subject of discussion in the hot new segment ‘This Week In Shirtless Men' and what shoes/accessories tell the world that you aren't getting any. It's Jessi's LAST EPISODE before she leaves for the NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL LIVE TOUR! GET TICKETS NOW! www.jessicruickshank.com/tourBless Jessi with a Voicemail, HERE: 323-448-0068 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Naturally Savvy
EP #1434: How Racism is a Public Health Issue and What You Can Do About It

Naturally Savvy

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2024 29:37


Lisa is joined by W. KAMAU BELL,  a dad, husband, and comedian. He directed and executive-produced the four-part Showtime documentary We Need To Talk About Cosby, which premiered at Sundance. He famously met with the KKK on his Emmy-Award-winning CNN docu-series United Shades of America with W. Kamau Bell, where he serves as host and executive producer. He has appeared on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon, The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, Conan, The Daily Show with Trevor Noah, CBS Mornings, MSNBC's Morning Joe, Comedy Central, HBO, Fresh Air with Terry Gross, WTF with Marc Maron, The Breakfast Club, and This American Life. He has two stand-up comedy specials, Private School Negro (Netflix) and Semi-Prominent Negro (Showtime). Kamau's writing has been featured in Time, The New York Times, Vanity Fair, The Hollywood Reporter, CNN.com, Salon, and The LA Review of Books. Kamau's first book has an easy-to-remember title, The Awkward Thoughts of W. Kamau Bell: Tales of a 6' 4", African American, Heterosexual, Cisgender, Left-Leaning, Asthmatic, Black and Proud Blerd, Mama's Boy, Dad, and Stand-Up Comedian. He is the ACLU Artist Ambassador for Racial Justice and serves on the board of directors of Donors Choose and the advisory board of Hollaback!BOOK DESCRIPTION: Overwhelmed by racial injustice? Outraged by the news? Find yourself asking, “What can I doooooo?” DO THE WORK!Revelatory and thought-provoking, this highly illustrated, highly informative interactive workbook gives readers a unique, hands-on understanding of systemic racism—and how we can dismantle it.Packed with activities, games, illustrations, comics, and eye-opening conversation, Do the Work! challenges readers to think critically and act effectively. Try the “Separate but Not Equal” crossword puzzle. Play “Bootstrapping, the Game” to understand the myth of meritocracy. Test your knowledge of racist laws by playing “Jim Crow or Jim Faux?”Have hard conversations with your people (scripts and talking points included). Be open to new ideas and diversify your “feed” with a scavenger hunt. Team up with an accountability partner and find hundreds of ideas, resources, and opportunities to DO THE WORK!

A Mediocre Time with Tom and Dan
764 - Crystal & Sabrina & Sam

A Mediocre Time with Tom and Dan

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 22, 2024 124:42


Be back soon. - d ### - Advertisement for Hollaback's German restaurant:   - Scratch kitchen with handmade food   - Live German music and best beers   - Beer garden with tapas-style German cuisine   - Magnolia Square market: German groceries, deli, more   - Location at Orlando City Stadium   - Unique menu presented like a German newspaper - Introduction to "A Mediocre Time with Tom and Dan" Friday free show - Banter about watching movies and TV shows - Tom's technological mishaps and humorous banter - Discussion about inappropriate websites and struggles with technology - Attempt to get hiking passes for Fiery Furnace - Banter about frustrations with technology and aging - Discussion about attempting to get concert tickets - Banter about personal grievances and canceling plans - Reflection on frustrations with technology and distractions - Anticipation of embarrassing moments becoming accessible online - Attempting to explain acting to children using Spider-Man as an example - Reflection on personal grooming habits and preferences - Discussion on personal preferences for gender and parenthood - Mention of recent travel experience to Ireland - Memories of past experiences at nudist resorts and radio stunts - Commentary on household appliance usage and maintenance - Reflections on authenticity in storytelling and portrayal on the show - Interaction with suggestive content of songs from the past - Banter about body modifications and their impact on the podcast - Caller's inquiry about having cameras in her house and reactions to it - Suggestions on handling the situation with house cameras and privacy - Banter about security cameras and their practicality - Commentary on frogs' sounds in a message - Light-hearted banter about frog sounds and potential racism ### **Stay Connected:**   - [Website](https://tomanddan.com/) - [Twitter](https://twitter.com/tomanddanlive) - [Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/AMediocreTime) - [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/tomanddanlive/)   **Tune In & Turn Up:**   - [Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-mediocre-time-with-tom-and-dan/id308614478) - [Google Podcasts](https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9hbWVkaW9jcmV0aW1lLmxpYnN5bi5jb20vcnNz?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj6x-_il7mBAxX2moQIHRosAQwQ9sEGegQIARAC) - [TuneIn](https://tunein.com/podcasts/Comedy/A-Mediocre-Time-with-Tom-and-Dan-p393884/)   **A Corporate Time with Tom and Dan:**   - [Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-corporate-time-with-tom-and-dan/id994667625) - [Google Podcasts](https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5saWJzeW4uY29tLzYxOTc2L3Jzcw?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj6x-_il7mBAxX2moQIHRosAQwQ9sEGegQIARAD) - [TuneIn](https://tunein.com/podcasts/Comedy/A-Corporate-Time-with-Tom-and-Dan-p1836090/)   **Unlock the BDM Vault:**   - [Join the BDM crew](https://tomanddan.com/registration)   **Rock Our Swag:**   - [Shop Tom & Dan merch](https://tomanddan.myshopify.com/)   **Join the Live Stream Party:**   - [Twitch](https://www.twitch.tv/tomanddanlive) or [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/user/amediocretime)   **Discover Tom & Dan Watering Holes:**   - [Explore Tom & Dan Watering Holes](https://www.tomanddanwateringholes.com/)

Give 'Em The Bird
085: Women at Work with Dr. Beth A. Livingston

Give 'Em The Bird

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 5, 2024 46:34


Dr. Beth A. Livingston is the Sheets Associate Professor of Industrial Relations at the University of Iowa's Tippie College of Business. Her research has been highlighted in the New York Times, NPR, and the Harvard Business Review, and she has been published in multiple top academic journals. Dr. Livingston has also done executive education, speaking engagements, and consulting for companies and non-profits such as Accenture, John Deere, Yves Saint Laurent Beauty, HNI/Allsteel, and Hollaback! (now Right to Be) and is the co-author of the book Shared Sisterhood (with Dr. Tina Opie), published by Harvard Business Review Press. https://bethalivingston.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/giveemthebirdpodcast/support

EP 88:The Hollaback Boys, Stealing Music, and No Hands

"But I Know the DJ"

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2024 41:13


The boys are back to discuss the difference between opener and headliner music, artists stealing music from other artists, and singing their hearts out --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/snaxs/support

LGBTQ Friendship
42 #longtime #hollaback

LGBTQ Friendship

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 2, 2023 30:04


#longtime it's been sometime, hope your all well. Touched on affairs from the last podcast. Communication's the key, travel tips, let us know about you travels give us suggestion of destinations #hollaback https://anchor.fm/lgbtq-friendship/message https://www.facebook.com/lgbtq.friendship insta:- lgbtq.friendship email:- lgbtq.friendship@gmail.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lgbtq-friendship/message

Denis Erymenko - IndaMix
Denis Erymenko - Jule & Summer II IndaMix (2023)

Denis Erymenko - IndaMix

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2023 114:10


01.Dr. Dre ft Snoop Dogg - The Next Episode02.Sofia Reyes ft. Jason Derulo & De La Ghetto - 1, 2, 303.Habibi04.Red Ruby Da Sleeze05.Candy Up06.Ha Shy Guy07.Rush08.Simarik 2309.Minimum10.50 Cent - P.I.M.P11.Djadja Badam 12.Crazy Love About Us13.Ritmo14.Lady Marmalade15.Nado Chocolata16.Ass Like That17.Bailamos Simarik18.Sean Paul - Get Busy19.Calm Down20.PIMP Up21.Hey Mary22.Танцы23.Monro Kiss Loca24.Hollaback 2325.Седьмой Лепесток26.Black Eyed Peas - My Humps27.Justin Timberlake & Timbaland - Sexy Back28.All Eyez On Me29.Канги - 1+130.Don't Let Me Go 31.Dennis Ferrer - Hey Hey PARIS32.Amaga33.Patakha Boro34.Arranca Marianella35.Layla36.Stereo Love 2337.London Bridge38.Kiss Low39.Jain - Makeba40.Coracao

Vicarious
BONUS EP: Alex and Karen talk Summer Slumps, & Quick Fire Questions

Vicarious

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 23, 2023 54:12


It's a bonus episode! Alex and Karen sit down for a lighthearted chat about mental health struggles and the creative slump that crops up for them during their experiences with the summertime blues. Fun! They also talk about some of the things that are bringing them joy during this tricky time and play a rousing round of Quick-Fire Questions: Guilty Pleasure Edition. …For a sneak peak of the questions asked, check out the answers provided by our editor extraordinaire Will! Guilty pleasure lazy day activity: watching sports! live games or just youtube content / highlights A reality show you'd go on: Storage WarsTrashy/weird snack: peanut butter, sesame seeds, and panko breadcrumbsFirst celeb crush: Hollaback era Gwen Stefani or early RihannaComfort meal: Baked potato bar with lots of toppings to choose fromMovie you know every line to: School of RockLast show you binge watched: Break Point (Netflix show about young pro tennis players)Best Halloween costume: no idea in my memory now! all i can remember is being the King of Spades with a poster board version of the card stuck to me and a mustache/hatGuilty pleasure pop singer: Morgan Wallen or Post MaloneTV or movie character you would bring to life to be your best friend: C-3POWe'd love to read your answers too! Send us an email or dm us on Instagram to share!Follow us on instagram @vicarious.pod Have any questions or topics you want to hear us discuss? Email us at thevicariouspod@gmail.com Credits: Edited by Alex Scott & mixed by Will Chernoff. Music and artwork by Alex Scott. Check out Alex's solo project @lx.tox | Bandcamp | Spotify Check out Karen's band @realearthtones | Bandcamp | Spotify …

The Fox and the Foxhound: Love, Marriage, and Harry Potter
Hollaback: Ring Narrative in Harry Potter

The Fox and the Foxhound: Love, Marriage, and Harry Potter

Play Episode Listen Later May 2, 2023 58:14


This week, two literary dumb-dumbs get their minds blown when they learn that Ring Structure is a thing. Plus, we open the mailbag, do some music fancasting, and Kev has a lot of feelings. Support the showSupport FFH on Patreon: patreon.com/thefoxandthefoxhoundFollow us!IG: @thefoxandthefoxhoundTikTok: @thefoxandthefoxhound

Married To PTSD
4. Getting Through The Holidays

Married To PTSD

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 28, 2022 32:43


We talk about getting through the holidays, read a Facebook post about service dogs, and read an email from Hollaback girl.

On Brand with Nick Westergaard
The Power of Language in DEI with Beth Livingston

On Brand with Nick Westergaard

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2022 32:47


Beth A. Livingston is a professor, consultant, author, and speaker focused on human resources, gender & diversity, and the management of work & family—all in the service of the employee experience. She's also a colleague of mine at the University of Iowa's Tippie College of Business and co-author of the new book Shared Sisterhood. We discussed all of this and more, this week on the On Brand podcast. About Beth A. Livingston Dr. Beth Livingston is the Ralph L. Sheets Associate Professor of Industrial Relations at the University of Iowa's Tippie College of Business. She's also an internal advisor with the Healthier Workforce Center of the Midwest, a NIOSH Center of Excellence, and the faculty director of the Dore-Tippie Women's Leadership program. After receiving her Ph.D. from the University of Florida, and her MBA from the University of Kentucky, she began her career at Cornell University in the School of Industrial and Labor Relations before moving to the Midwest. She studies and teaches human resource management, gender & diversity, and the management of work and family in the service of employee well-being. Her research has been highlighted in the New York Times, NPR, and the Harvard Business Review, and she has been published in multiple top academic journals. Dr. Livingston has also done executive education, speaking engagements, and consulting for companies and non-profits such as Accenture, John Deere, Yves Saint Laurent Beauty, HNI/Allsteel, and Hollaback! (now Right to Be) and is the co-author of the book Shared Sisterhood, published by Harvard Business Review Press. Episode Highlights “Everything you know—about marketing, managing, leading—has changed.” It's been a busy two years for Beth Livingston, who studies remote work and DEI issues in the workplace. “People and organizations are ready to learn more about this." Thinking and doing. With big issues like gender and race, action both thinking and action are critical in driving change. “We talk a lot about doing in the book,” Beth notes. “There are thinking, feeling, and doing questions at the end of each chapter.” What's one thing you can do right now on these big issues of gender and race? I thought I'd asked Beth a hardball question but she knocked it out of the park with not one but two things you can do. “The lowest hanging fruit is looking at where you get your news and who you follow on social media. The second thing you can do is look around at work.” What brand has made Beth smile recently? After a recent trip to New York, Beth and her daughter shared several smiles over the Playbill brand as they saw four Broadway shows. To learn more, check out Beth's website and connect with her on LinkedIn. As We Wrap … Listen and subscribe at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon/Audible, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, iHeart, YouTube, and RSS. Rate and review the show—If you like what you're hearing, be sure to head over to Apple Podcasts and click the 5-star button to rate the show. And, if you have a few extra seconds, write a couple of sentences and submit a review to help others find the show. Did you hear something you liked on this episode or another? Do you have a question you'd like our guests to answer? Let me know on Twitter using the hashtag #OnBrandPodcast and you may just hear your thoughts here on the show. On Brand is a part of the Marketing Podcast Network. Until next week, I'll see you on the Internet! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Business Of Happiness
#195 - Shared Sisterhood - Raising Each Other Up For Racial and Gender Equity at Work with Dr. Tina Opie and Dr. Beth Livingston

The Business Of Happiness

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 12, 2022 47:11


Today Dr. Tarryn MacCarthy is joined by Professors, Speakers, and the Authors of Shared Sisterhood, Dr. Tina Opie and Dr. Beth Livingston. They talk about feminism and the importance of racial and gender equity at work. They also share their inspiration and what pushed them to write their book, Shared Sisterhood.Tina Opie, PhD is an Associate Professor of Management at Babson College and an award-winning teacher and researcher, consultant, and speaker. She is the founder of Opie Consulting Group, where she advises large firms in the financial services, entertainment, media, beauty, educational, and healthcare industries. Her research has appeared in such outlets as O Magazine, the Washington Post, the Boston Globe, and Harvard Business Review and has been published in multiple academic journals. She is also a regular commentator on Harvard Business Review's Women at Work podcast and Greater Boston's NPR affiliate television station, WGBH.Beth A. Livingston, PhD is an Associate Professor in Management and Entrepreneurship at the University of Iowa's Tippie College of Business and has done executive education, speaking engagements, and consulting for companies and nonprofits such as John Deere, Yves Saint Laurent Beauty, Allsteel, and Hollaback!. Her research interests lie primarily in gender, diversity, and the management of work and family. Her research has been highlighted in the New York Times, Harvard Business Review, and NPR and published in several top academic journals.Learn more about Dr. Tina and Dr. Beth at:Websites: https://www.drtinaopie.com/                        https://bethalivingston.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drtinaopie                      https://www.linkedin.com/in/bethalivingstonTwitter: https://twitter.com/DrTinaOpie                   https://www.twitter.com/BethALivingstonIG: https://www.instagram.com/drtinaopie/        https://www.instagram.com/bethalivingstonPre-order their book, Shared Sisterhood: https://www.amazon.com/Shared-Sisterhood-Collective-Action-Racial/dp/1647822831/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1643130025&sr=8-1Show notes:[2:48] What gave them the inspiration to write their book?[6:44] Why did the term “feminist” bother Dr. Tina?[10:54] Intent versus impact[14:51] Feminine identity in leadership[20:33] What is DIG?[24:29] Join Dr. Tarryn's Business of Happiness Prosperity Coaching to redefine success on your terms. Check out www.thebizofhappiness.com and be the happiest business owner you know[25:42] Risk-taking as an important concept in sisterhood[30:31] Glennon Doyle's story through the lens of risk-taking[36:44] The concept of trust through the lens of shared sisterhood[42:59] Where to find their book[45:30] What is their definition of happiness?[46:34] OutroPlease join my Facebook group: Business Of Happiness Hive so we can all take this journey to find fulfillment and happiness together. Click here.Where to find meWebsite: www.thebizofhappiness.comFacebook: facebook.com/thebusinessofhappinessIG: @thebizofhappinessIt would mean the world to me if you subscribe, leave a review, and share this podcast with your friends, co-workers, and families. This will help the trajectory of this podcast and allow others who are seeking true happiness to find the podcast.

Using the Whole Whale Podcast
What is the CURE for medical debt? | RIPMedicalDebt.org

Using the Whole Whale Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2022 45:51


On this episode Allison Sesso, the CEO & President of RIP Medical Debt talks about their unique approach to alleviating medical debt of Americans. By leveraging medical debt markets and partnering with hospitals, RIP Medical Debt is able to achieve 100X leverage on every dollar donated to wipe out debt at scale.   How big is the problem? The SIPP survey suggests people in the United States owe at least $195 billion in medical debt. Approximately 16 million people (6% of adults) in the U.S. owe over $1,000 in medical debt and 3 million people (1% of adults) owe medical debt of more than $10,000.     RIP Medical Debt by the numbers: $7,091,262,274 in medical debt relieved so far 3,987,191 individuals and families helped 2021 Annual Report   The debt relief we provide reduces mental and financial distress for millions of people. Here's how we got started.   RIP Medical Debt was founded in 2014 by two former debt collections executives. Over the course of decades in the debt-buying industry they met with thousands of Americans saddled with unpaid and un-payable medical debt and realized they were uniquely qualified to help those in need. They imagined a new way to relieve medical debt: by using donations to buy large bundles of debt that is erased with no tax consequences to donors or recipients. From this idea RIP Medical Debt was born, a New York based 501(C)(3). The results have been spectacular—billions in medical debt eradicated so far, providing financial relief for millions of individuals and families.   About Allison Sesso President / CEO Allison Sesso became the President / CEO of RIP Medical Debt in January of 2020. RIP Medical Debt was established for the sole purpose of reducing the medical debt burdens of low-income individuals with limited capacity to pay their medical bills by leveraging donations from people across the country. They have abolished $7,091,262,274 to date for over 3,987,191 people. Under Allison's leadership and in response to the COVID-19 pandemic, RIP Medical Debt launched the “Helping COVID Heroes Fund” focused on relieving the medical debts of healthcare workers and emergency responders like nurses, home health aids, pharmacists, social workers, hospital technicians, the National Guard and others working on the front lines of the pandemic. It also benefits service workers and others facing financial hardship resulting from the COVID induced economic downturn. Through this effort RIP has abolished over $100 million in medical debt. Prior to joining RIP Medical Debt, Allison served as the Executive Director of the Human Services Council of New York (HSC), an association of 170 nonprofits delivering 90% of human services in New York City. Under her leadership HSC pioneered the development of nationally recognized tools designed to illuminate risks associated with government contracts, including an RFP rater and government agency grading system. She led negotiations with New York City and State government on behalf of the sector and successfully pushed for over $500 million in investments to address the nonprofit fiscal crisis. During her tenure at HSC, Allison also led a commission of experts focused on socialdeterminants of health and value-based-payment structures and published the report,Integrating Health and Human Services: a Blueprint for Partnership and Action, that examines the challenges of operationalizing relationships between health and human services providers, offering several recommendations. She also served on the New York State Department of Health's Social Determinants and Community Based Organizations (CBO) Subcommittee helping to formulate recommendations around the integration of CBOs into Medicaid managed care. Allison's work on behalf of the human services sector led City & State to recognize her as a top nonprofit leader in 2018 and 2019, one of the 25 most influential leaders in Manhattan in 2017, and one of New York City's 100 “Most Responsible” in 2016. She recently received the 100 “Most Responsible” award for the second time for her efforts at RIP Medical Debt. Allison also serves as the Vice Chair of the nonprofit “Right to Be,” formerly Hollaback!, a global movement working to end harassment through bystander intervention training and storytelling.    Rough Transcript   [00:00:00] George Weiner: This week we have an awesome guest who I, I think I promised I would track down somebody from R IP medical Debt because they kept showing up in the news and innovative approach to dealing with, uh, a tremendous. Problem in America around, uh, I'd say healthcare and debt, and none other than Allison Seso, the CEO and President is joining us. [00:00:52] This means a lot. Thank you, Allison, for, for taking the time today. [00:00:55] Allison Sesso: Thanks for hunting us down and finding us. We love talking about our work and, and the issue of, of medical debt, so I appreciate every opportu. . Well, [00:01:05] George Weiner: let's drive right into it on the front page of r i p medical debt.org. On the front page of the.org site, I see every $100 donated relieves 10,000 in medical debt. [00:01:19] First off. That gets my attention. What a perfect way to start a conversation. But how does that work exactly? [00:01:29] Allison Sesso: Yeah. We are a, uh, a unique model and we take advantage of the for profit, uh, debt market, uh, and use it for a mission driven purpose, which is really exciting and, and I think unique. So we do get an incredible return on investment and it's because there is a market for debt buying, uh, that is, has been established, and That is because, uh, there is a for profit industry that we take advantage of, uh, and they are looking to make money off of the issue of debt. We, on the other hand, are trying to relieve debt, so we take donations from individuals, we take 'em to the debt market, and we buy large portfolios at. [00:02:10] So, the individuals that are in those portfolios tend to be financially burdened. They are poor, they are, um, in fact, to qualify for our program, you have to be 400% of poverty or below, or the debt birth burden has to be significant compared to your overall income. So it has to be 5% or more of your income. [00:02:28] We do an analysis of the debt portfolio and we buy all of the accounts that qualify and then we purchase them based on. For profit rates. And so we're competitive with that market, but because the for profit folks are trying to make money, they have to really depress the prices and they have to have a really deep discount in order to make sure that they're making their money back. [00:02:49] And so we don't have to make our money back. And so we're able to take, you know, $1 and turn it into a hundred dollars of medical debt relief. And as you pointed out, you can ex expand that. So, you know, $500 gets rid of 50. Um, $50,000 of medical debt. And so that's how we're able to, provide massive debt relief to the tune of $7 billion to date and grow. [00:03:12] George Weiner: Yeah, I think there's a lot to unpack there. Maybe I, um, wanna poke a little bit more into like, making sure I actually get this. So let's say I'm, you know, a family living below the, the poverty line meeting your, your standards. There's an, uh, unexpected accident and injury. I then am in the hospital for a few days and suddenly I'm walking around with 45 grand in debt overnight. [00:03:34] And because of the way our systems work, this is now. A debt I owe to creditors. Now that debt, as I understand, can first go from the hospital to maybe a secondary buyer, right? There's like all these markets of like, Oh, I'll grab that one, I'll grab that one. And then it seems like they're, there's a discount on it cuz it's not dollar for dollar you're getting. [00:03:56] A hundred x leverage on it. So there's some discounting of my debt with that 45,000. Can you just walk me through like the individual, like I am sitting here, I've got 45 grand in debt. I can run off to a sort of like Go fund me type site and be like, Please, please, please, please pay this money. I have a story. [00:04:19] I have a narrative. And unfortunately I have to compete with other stories around me. What is the alternative path that my 45 K debt takes in your world? [00:04:29] Allison Sesso: Yeah, so your, I could buy your debt probably for $45. That's the diff . That's, that's the difference. It's pretty, you know, I'm sorry, I don't understand. [00:04:39] I'm sorry For $450. Sorry. Yeah. Okay. Um, Um, Um, so yeah, I could buy your debt for $450 and that is because I'm not just buying your. I am buying the entire provider's portfolio of bad debt, so it's more attractive of an option. So basically I'm, I'm a hospital or another healthcare provider. I am serving people who can't afford to pay. [00:05:02] They are poor as you just described. And, and by the way, just to be clear, it's 400% of poverty or below, so it's not just under poverty, but four times the amount of poverty. So it's people that are poor but but not necessarily. Oh, so [00:05:16] George Weiner: four x the whatever, $45,000 Exactly. Anywhere you are. Okay. So [00:05:21] Allison Sesso: that, that matter. [00:05:22] So we're really like helping people that. Really trying to make ends meet but aren't actually, uh, technically in poverty based on the federal definition. So you, you know, you, there's, there's, you have to, In order for our model to work, we're buying the entire portfolio of many of those individuals who have the 45,000 or a thousand dollars or $2,000 of debt. [00:05:43] Uh, that all together. So it's source driven. So basically I'm going to the hospital or other healthcare provider and I'm saying, Give me the debts. Give me your entire portfolio of debt that you have tried to collect and you have been unable to collect and mostly been able, unable to collect because the individuals are, uh, financially stressed out and can't. [00:06:03] Afford to pay this bill. I will look at that portfolio and I will assess what can I pay for that? And this is if I'm a for-profit, not F R P medical debt, but as a for-profit debt buyer, I will say, Okay, I'm gonna pay this. I'm gonna pay you an X amount of dollars for the entire portfolio for thousands of people's bads. [00:06:23] On the bet that at least I can squeeze enough out of that. Mm-hmm. , you get to make up for the investment that I've made plus, Right. Cuz I'm looking for a profit and I squeeze those individuals either by calling them, by putting it on their credit, you know, and giving them bad credit by sometimes suing them and taking, putting leans out on their. [00:06:43] Um, on their cars, on their vehicles. So I take different tactic to try and collect on that. And so that establishes this debt market that establishes a price that is very depressed and discounted. And again, that's what r i p medical debt takes advantage of. So I'm competing with that already depressed price that is driven by the fact that people are trying to make a profit off of these bad debts. [00:07:05] But in my world, I've sort of flipped it on its head and I'm. I will pay the same as the for profits, but I'm not trying to make a profit. I'm just trying to provide relief. So I'm going to take donated dollars, so I don't need to make any money back. I'm gonna go to that same debt market. I'm gonna say, give me all of the bad debts that you have available. [00:07:25] I'm gonna pull out the ones that are for, which is most of them, like 80% oftentimes of people who are financially uh, struggling. And I will pay. this amount, and I pay based on, usually the debt is, um, the older it is, the cheaper it is because [00:07:42] George Weiner: the idea is it pays outstanding, puts a higher discount on the probability [00:07:46] Allison Sesso: that gets behind. [00:07:46] I'm, I'm paying like, you know, a million dollars for, you know, $300 million worth of debt in one fail swoop. And so it's thousands of people that are getting helped. [00:07:58] George Weiner: Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . So staying with the story here, I have incurred this 45,000. I have not been able to pay it back in thirty, ninety, a hundred eighty days. [00:08:09] I am within that window of one to four x the poverty level. And do you like show up at my door? Like an oversized check. Is it like, uh, so like how am I notified that? Like, hey, you're suddenly like, you don't owe this anymore. Like, how does this final, like I release you of your burden before, Like what, Like is there a confetti? [00:08:34] I'm like, that would be a lot of, uh, groundwork for us because we've helped over 4 million people. So that'd be a lot. Lot [00:08:40] George Weiner: of confetti. And then we got the environmental problem on that. A lot of conf the [00:08:43] Allison Sesso: confetti ideas. Yeah, exactly. It would be a lot, lot of champagne, you know, it would be a lot. no, we, what we do, first of all, The debts tend to be at least a year old because the hospital does it is required like by regulation, they have to try to collect that could be sending one letter, it could be sending two letters. [00:08:59] It depends. And so every hospital is different. And the thing is, when you've seen one hospital and their approach to collections, you've seen one hospital and their approach to collections. So there is no like, well what's the standard? There's some norms, but there's really differences. Like for example, not while hospitals sell their debt roughly and. [00:09:17] Like, I'm not even a hundred percent sure, like, but it's roughly like 30% of hospitals that sell their debt. So not even all hospitals sell their, their debt to begin with. but we do get hospitals to sell to us that don't normally sell to other for profit debt buyers, which is, I think, important. But So you are that individual. [00:09:34] We would not have access to your file and your debt and when, until a hospital engages with us and agrees to work with us. So that's an important element of our model, is that hospitals have to be interested in working with us and say yes to dis debt relief. Once we get a hospital involved, we will get their entire bad debt portfolio. [00:09:53] So you, if your debt of that 40, uh, what did you say? $45,000? Mm-hmm. , then we. , uh, send letters in mass like we do to every other individual that's in that thousands at one time that basically say, We are our IP medical debt. We have relieved your debt. You are free and clear. Check us out. We're for real. [00:10:14] Like, believe us. and [00:10:16] George Weiner: oh yeah, but there's a lot of, Sure right Where, where's the timeshare agreement? [00:10:21] Allison Sesso: Right. And you don't have to do anything. And the other thing that's really important is there's no tax burden associated with it. When, when certain debts are relieved, there can be a tax burden because it's considered a gift equal to the amount of the debt that's been released. [00:10:33] Right, exactly. So could you imagine you get a debt relieved and then you get a tax bill. It's like when you win a lotto and you have to pay taxes. You're like, what? ? The good news is soured. but with r p medical debt, that is not the case because we are disinterested third party. So you get this debt relief free and clear. [00:10:48] And honestly, the, the debt relief happens whether or not you actually pay attention to the letter. They really can [00:10:53] George Weiner: just continue to do what you were doing, which was ignore the problem and hope it goes away. Which I have to say, never were, I can't use the word never, because apparently sometimes that works. [00:11:04] Allison Sesso: Well, I mean, look, the people who were, we are helping though, at the end of the. everyone. I mean, we get the stories back from individuals. Mm. They want so desperately to pay. They really do. And they feel like failures because they haven't been able to pay. Mm-hmm. . So these aren't people who are just like, Whoa, let's hope for the best. [00:11:25] I'll just keep ignoring this. And you know, these are individuals. Something happened to them. Either they got sick, they were in an accident, whatever happened to them. Maybe they just are poor, like, and, and have other obligations they have to pay for and they can't pay this bill. And so we are relieving those debts of individuals who were forced to pay a bill that they should have never been forced to pay because it's unaffordable. [00:11:51] George Weiner: Yeah. Cuz clearly they had that desire to pay it back, but not the means by which to do it. What's more, medical prices are not exactly accurate in the United States. [00:12:03] Allison Sesso: I don't know if the word is accurate. They are all over the place because we have this weird system where the insurance company is paying and the prices are ar. [00:12:16] Yeah. [00:12:18] George Weiner: Yeah. Uh, when you operate as an individual in a system designed for these large players that are charging what they will, it just breaks, it seems like, and you're just left with outrageous numbers, and debt burns. [00:12:32] Allison Sesso: I think that we've created a, a. Typical consumer approach to healthcare and it doesn't work like the economics don't align when you're buying healthcare, first of all, you would pay a lot more than you would for any other good or service, right? [00:12:49] Because it's your health and your wellbeing. So like your artificially willing to to pay more. And I think we take a little bit of advantage of that in some ways. And, and I think that the fact that we have insurance companies that are negotiating what to pay is. Makes it complicated and it's really hard to navigate this as an individual, nor I think should we have that expectation that people, while they're sick, should be navigating what they're gonna pay for a service that they have Really no real way of doing comparison shopping on. [00:13:24] George Weiner: this is very different than a lot of other models that I see. And you must, and I see it on the site saying, if you were an individual looking for medical debt relief, that is not us. And that must be hard because you were. You know, behind the curtain that's behind the curtain running in debt markets, which frankly, you know, this may be the first time many people are hearing about this. [00:13:51] I'm curious how, how did this organization come about? It's been around for, for a while. [00:13:59] Allison Sesso: Well, I mean, actually we've only been around since 2014, so it's not that old considering, I mean, a lot of nonprofits. Just years old. You know, we, we were . We've only been around since 2014 and we, we came we came into being, because we have two, uh, former debt buyers who understood the market. [00:14:17] I think that was a key element of it. Craig and Jerry understood, uh, how the debt market works and what it costs to buy. , they were inspired by Occupy Wall Street, actually. Uh, and they saw that there was this group doing this thing called the Jubilee, where they were trying to do just what r i p does in, in large scale, which is to buy medical debt, and relieve it, but to make a point. [00:14:42] And they recruited actually Jerry's help in this. And then Jerry referred Craig. Then they sort of made their point as part of the Occupy Wall Street movement, and they were gonna pack up and go home kind of on, on this whole debt relief front. And I think Jerry sort of said to Craig like, We gotta make this a real thing. [00:15:01] And so they did. They, they really, they, and I think that they have a book that, that they put out talking about this. You can find it on our. , it's called End Medical Debt, and it tells sort of the origin story of of R I P and and and how they thought about this and one of the key moments that really helped the organization propel forward. [00:15:20] Was being highlighted on John Oliver, which, you know, I'm a big fan of, I was before I got this role and knew about r i p medical debt, but he really, did some debt relief through the institution and, uh, and that propelled a lot of donors to come to the table. Cuz without donors, this really doesn't work. [00:15:38] I mean, I can go to the debt market all I want, but if I don't have a lot of people supporting my ability to buy the debt, it, it doesn't, it doesn't work. So, That's our story. It was two Defiers who were brave. They took some. They almost went into poverty on, on, on their own because of the fact that they, they took this, uh, this on and they just thought this was too good of an idea to let go. [00:16:00] And again, John Oliver helped propel us and then the board of directors, you know, said, Let's take it to the next level. And, and then I came in as a, as a seasoned executive director type and, and we were able to really, uh, propel this work forward and we're gonna keep doing. . [00:16:16] George Weiner: Yeah. I mean, 24, I mean, you've made it through some, some filter bubbles for sure. [00:16:22] In terms of like the filtering of can you make it five years, can you make it over a, a certain amount of revenue, but you're starting to, uh, really pull. Pull through. It also strikes me because medical debt is the number one reason someone declares bankruptcy and it seems like this is, uh, something that may slow that down. [00:16:45] Uh, but I don't know how big you need to be, like billions of dollars that you have done. 4 million people. I think you said like those are big numbers. How big do you actually need to be in your mind to, I'm not gonna use the word solve, because you, you are not solving, you are resolving a broken system that will continue to break things. [00:17:08] But how big do you need to. To take this actually on at the level that you'd imagine? [00:17:13] Allison Sesso: Yeah, I, it's a good question and it's one I often think about as an executive director, or sorry, as a, as a CEO of the institution, it's one I often think about. What I would say is that, , we need to both be a certain size and relieving a certain amount of debt every year. [00:17:32] And I don't know what exactly what that number is. It really depends on the donation size. Maybe it's 10 million, maybe it's 20 million. I like the number 25, in terms of our budget size every year, uh, I'd love to grow to that size and, and you know, we're, we're more than halfway there already today, in consistent revenue, but, you know, we'll, [00:17:51] But the other thing is, I, I loved how you framed it and said, We're not solving but, but resolving this, the issue. And that's a hundred percent true. And that is our mantra. What I wanna make sure is that we're not just trying to grow to a size that picks up and just keeps resolving the issue, but at, in the process of resolving the issue for individual. [00:18:12] We are very intentional about telling the larger story about the issue of medical debt and how systemic in nature it is, and that we are very intentional about pushing for larger changes that are above our pay grade as an institution. And so to me that is really the key. So our size almost doesn't matter as much as our. [00:18:36] And so by growing our voice within this work and growing our expertise and taking the data that we are getting in mass, so we are having a deeper understanding. How many people, uh, we, how many people we're helping, what their situation is, what is their race? What is their economic situation? Where do they live? [00:18:56] Is this, is this problem more prevalent at certain types of hospitals, nonprofit versus for profit? I think over time we'll be able to take a deeper look at our data collectively as we do more and more direct hospital work and contribute to this issue in a larger scale. And be able to hopefully push for, uh, larger solutions that are above again, our pay grade and who we. [00:19:22] George Weiner: So the debt, we were talking about this before, the debt that a individual incurs, going back to like, here's a, my $45,000 and surprise debt that I now owe. I have a family, uh, we live, you know, in a house we're doing right. But this is something that frankly does not fit into the budget, not even by a long shot. [00:19:42] Uh, I may. Go into bankruptcy, but it seems like there is a like actual adverse medical effect to having debt. There's like a relationship to having this like held over my head that has negative consequences. We think we were talking about the drama report or other reports out there that suggest that like, I mean, it's just. [00:20:09] It hurts my brain to put it in the order of logic that like I went to the hospital to get better and now I'm probably gonna get worse because of the overpriced and debt that now chases me indefinitely. And can you tell me a bit about that relationship of debt distress? [00:20:23] Allison Sesso: Yeah, absolutely. Uh, it is the number one theme that we see in the letters that come back from individual. [00:20:29] We help, uh, it's overwhelming for individuals and, you know, stress is. Undermining of health and financial stress. Stress is one of the biggest things, and we look at poor communities and we see. You know, diabetes, we see all these stress related diseases, heart issues that are all stress related, that are more extreme. [00:20:54] Uh, and so in, in terms of medical debt, it is in itself a social determinant of health. And the social determinant of health is something that hospitals have increasingly been looking at and are spending. Millions, billion dollars, billions of dollars across the country trying to invest in community programs that address social determinants of health. [00:21:16] And yet, as this Gemma report that came out just recently shows the medical debt created from going to the hospital itself is a social determinate of health. So if, if we can really look at medical debt, , we can actually get rid of one of the stressors that's causing people to have to go to the hospital or get care to in the first place. [00:21:38] So I think it's a really key issue that you're raising and one that we wanna make sure that we keep elevating. Cuz again, these providers, these hospitals are investing lots and lots of money into social determinants of health. Those are things like environmental situations family dynamic. You know, lot things that are in the environment, not your own personal health. [00:21:57] You know, living in a food desert. All those kinds of things contribute to the undermining of health. And it's a, it determines how well you're going to be healthy, hence, hence the social determinate of health language. And so the fact that medical debt itself is among those is something we need to really look at. [00:22:14] And I'm so grateful that there is this new report that points to this because I think it will create, To reexamine billing and practices at. [00:22:26] George Weiner: and I think this is the Jam and Network, uh, that that put this out. But we'll put a link in the, the show notes on it cuz there's a certainly a lot in there and it's one of those things I'm glad somebody did the research on and I am now forced to think about it, but also, I'm sadly not surprised. [00:22:44] I'm not surprised that having, uh, you know, the, the threat of somebody putting a lean on the house that, you know, my kid lives in, like wouldn't cause me stress. Like I go, I went in cuz I broke my ankle, right? I went in cuz I broke my, and I walk out like two years later with diabetes and other stress related disorders that put me back on that bill. [00:23:05] Like, [00:23:06] Allison Sesso: well not only that but the other on top of that, the. Stressor is that people don't go to that hospital because they're scared. They're either gonna incur more debt cuz they have had some, or they know of a friend or family member that's had debt and that it's put them in a, you know, difficult situation and so they don't go and get the care that they need. [00:23:24] People are sitting outside of hospitals waiting to see if the pain dissipates before they walk in. or they're just ignoring it and, you know, putting, you know, Ben Gay on their knee over and over and over again, and taking Advil and trying to ignore the problem until it gets to a point where it's actually even more expensive to solve and to adjust. [00:23:46] George Weiner: Yeah, I mean, the, the size of the problem, it, you know, it's, what I like is that this is a pretty smart and leveraged play at an intractable problem, like the, the scale that you need to play at. And I'll just play, I'll, I'm show my own hand. I don't think it's solved by GoFundMe. No. Truly just it is, and you also even brought up the tax issue that I'm pretty sure if I got my 45 grand from people giving me money, and it showed up as a check to me, I now owe at least a third of that I think in taxes, depending on where I [00:24:19] Allison Sesso: am. [00:24:21] Yeah, I'm not exactly sure how the GoFundMe works in terms of the tax system, but it's definitely a popularity contest. How. That's the problem because what I mean for GoFundMe to work you, you need to tell your story effectively enough to have people give to you over others. GoFundMe is, The number one thing people go to, like they go to GoFund me for medical debt. [00:24:47] It's the number one reason to go to GoFund me. And most of them do not work. They do not reach, reach their goals. And certainly you're not gonna reach your goal if you have an ongoing medical issue. Like what? If you have, uh, a chronic condition, you can't keep going back to the well and begging your friends and family. [00:25:02] Not to mention the fact that a lot of people are able to. Money if they have friends with money and people with money tend to have other friends with money. People without money tend to have friends without money. So the, the, the GoFundMe is absolutely not a solution and it really is a popularity contest. [00:25:18] It's how well you're able to tell your sob story. and I just think that's a freely heartbreaking situation that we're putting people in to have to put themselves out there in that way in order to solve their medical death. . [00:25:33] George Weiner: Yeah. The, you know, frankly, it's, it's not really the, the individual's supposed to do everything they can in their power. [00:25:39] and so if you're back into the wall, I understand the market force is there pushing there, but there's only one winner in that. It's the person that takes 2% of transaction. if you were looking at a macro system, something like r i p, medical debt, uh, I'm wondering if, you know, just to sort of speculate on it, are there other areas where you feel. [00:25:58] George Weiner: Financial levers, debt markets even are unexplored avenues for this type of impact. [00:26:08] Allison Sesso: I mean, I think that there's probably other kinds of unaffordable debt that could be looked at for sure. The thing is, medical debt is unique, and I do think that people are potentially more willing to donate to, uh, medical debt causes because you have such little control over the situation. [00:26:27] You, you can be insured. Most people actually are insured. 90% of Americans are insured today. yet 41% have medical debt. So it is not a matter of having insurance. So you can do everything right. You can have, I. , you can still and are likely actually to get medical debt. In fact, the, the number one cause of medical debt isn't, is, or, or directional relationship is not whether or not you have insurance, but whether or not you get sick, like, so you're, that's, that's the number one connector, which is that means you couldn't be insured. [00:27:02] So I. At the end of the day, we can't look at things like GoFundMe for the solutions here. I think you're right that it is, uh, just creating more profit on top of a, a profitable system. Yeah, we, we have to, we have to look at at bigger solutions beyond beyond this, and I think that, that our model could be used for other areas. [00:27:25] but I think that people are more likely to give to medical debt because of the fact that there's so much little control over how much debt you end up in. People are less forgiving if you end up overusing your credit card or, Yeah, even if you can't pay a utility bill. Honestly. Yeah. [00:27:40] George Weiner: Yeah, the story obviously, obviously matters, but also, you know, I'd say your ability to, as you came back to it, say like you're able to go through and understand the data behind the actual communities that you're choosing to go for, and just to track back on the conversation. [00:27:56] You're like in your. Ideal world, you're like, I think we have about 25 million worth of work you wish you could do every year in this. [00:28:05] Allison Sesso: Yeah, I think 25 million feels right today. Now, I don't know. I mean, ask me, you know, in, in a year from now how, how we feel about that. But I think 25 million gives us a pretty steady pace. [00:28:16] Of doing debt relief, in mass, right, For individuals while also investing in our own ability to tell the story of medical debt. Cuz that's important, right? Like not every dollar do we only spend on medical debt. We spend a lot, almost every dollar on medical debt relief. But we also are intentional about investing in storytelling so that individuals can be heard and that we're, we are thinking about what is, what it feels. [00:28:43] To have medical debt. And what are the implications on your mental health? What are your struggles with the hospital finance system? What is it like for your family every single day when you have this thing looming over your head? How have you avoided care? What other trade offs and decisions have you made? [00:29:00] Have you borrowed from friends and family? All those kinds of things. So we are investing in different systems, but I think 25 million. Feels good as an annual like rate of our budget size because I think that gives us a large scale ability to relieve debt across the country for a lot of people again, and, and lifting up the stories at the same time. [00:29:26] Yeah. [00:29:27] George Weiner: Yeah. Well, just, I mean, I won't call out your nine 90, but it, it is all public and so you're, you're hoping to grow there, it seems. [00:29:36] Allison Sesso: Yes. We're hoping to grow there. That's right. I mean, we've had, we've been, uh, lucky to get a 50 million gift from McKenzie Scott, uh, which is Jeff Bezos's ex-wife, and she's been wonderful in the nonprofit sector and able to. [00:29:51] push organizations forward. But that's a one time gift, right? Yeah. We're able to do those in multiple years, but we have to be careful about you not expanding our staff to have an expectation that that's gonna be our permanent bottom line. So we pay lot of attention to that reality, and so that's propelled us forward in a lot of good ways and allowed us to invest in even ways in which we can donate and become more, you know, In which we can maximize our ability to fundraise and then also look at our own systems, become more efficient so that we don't need as much staff. [00:30:26] Uh, so we've done those two things with those funds, but we need to grow to, I think, a, a permanent, like 25 million size where it's year after year we're able to support that. [00:30:38] George Weiner: And that makes sense. Part of my mind, I keep going back to this $45,000 family that just ran into this just stroke of unlock and, you know, following through the pattern. [00:30:50] Like it, it is amazing that there is R ip, medical debt that may show up like in some ways, like a lottery ticket that you're like, I didn't know I was playing this one, but I won. And like frankly, I've lost enough. That's amazing. I wonder if there's a world where the probability that I'd have to pay my full debt could be made more publicly known to me. [00:31:12] And I know there's also nonprofit hospitals that technically if they're serving the public benefit actually are. Uh, due to absolve some of that debt as well. But I feel as though you're not told the full truth when you're handed that bill for your, you know, scan your PT scan and you're like the what? [00:31:29] And your overnight visit. There's no like, and by the way, you know the probability if you're in this area and you make this much, that if you just wait, frankly one year and don't pay this, like nothing battle happen because the converse is true. We've been taught to pay every bill that shows up to us. [00:31:44] Cuz that's how you are an honest participant in. , uh, economic society, What does that look like? ? [00:31:52] Allison Sesso: Yeah. So it's, that's a difficult question to answer because I don't think we're in enough hospitals yet, by any stretch, to, for anyone to feel confident or comfortable to just, you're just gonna [00:32:02] George Weiner: run around and catch that fly ball. [00:32:04] Yeah. Yeah. [00:32:04] Allison Sesso: Right. And also, we're still investing in our fundraising abilities. And I don't know, at some point maybe people are exhausted about paying for this too. And our issue. Not as exciting. You know, we, we are competing, frankly for donate donor dollars with things like Ukraine or abortion rights or gun rights, you know, so there are, there is a limitation to how much I can guarantee that I'm gonna be able to relieve people's debt. [00:32:28] And also remember that in order for me to relieve your debt, you have to be financially burdened, right? So you have to be 400% of poverty or below, or the debt has to be large compared to your. So I would be leery of people feeling comfortable with the idea that eventually not [00:32:45] George Weiner: pay. By the way, this is not financial advice. [00:32:48] I repeat, this is a nonprofit podcast. This is not financial [00:32:51] Allison Sesso: advice. Right. And, and, and I will say, frankly, you know, there is some concern on the hospital and provider side that, that if they work with us, that that. That that will happen, right? That if that people will bush think, Well, I don't have to pay my bill. [00:33:04] So I don't think that that's a good way. Wow. [00:33:05] George Weiner: I didn't even think of that, but [00:33:07] Allison Sesso: Right. That, that's, that's a good way of [00:33:10] George Weiner: not you have thought about this as the ceo. Yeah, [00:33:13] Allison Sesso: exactly. And it's not something I would say we've experienced. What we've experienced is people who can pay their bills do pay their bills. [00:33:22] There's people in the middle Right. That also pay their bills, but to a, a large. where it's a a difficult situation for them to pay the bills. I would like to address those people as well, like they sign up for a payment plan that they can't afford. What I would advise people, is to not sign up for payment plans that they can't afford. [00:33:43] If it's $700 a month and that's gonna create a real financial burden on you and your family, then do not sign up for it despite all of the pressure that you might feel from the debt collector, if it's an individual, individual entity or if it's the hospital themselves. So that's what I would advise. [00:34:00] Unfortunately, as much as I hate having to tell people. be their own advocates. This system is set up that it expects you to be an advocate for yourself, and so you have to advocate for yourself and make sure that you don't sign up for things that you can't afford. [00:34:19] George Weiner: Uh, what a mess. It just, what a mess. In my mind, I'm just saying like, Well, what if I just waited, like I had my $45,000 debt and I just waited out of like, I'm gonna buy this back on a penny on the dollar in a year. I'm gonna come back to you as an independent broker, and I'm just go buy back. [00:34:36] Allison Sesso: Yeah, but you aren't, you can't do that. [00:34:38] Right. You know, you're not gonna have the negotiated power that I can collectively, and you can't come to r i p and. Well look, I got this one debt. It's 45,000. I'm in [00:34:46] George Weiner: Texas. Hear me out. I mean, you can, I will donate this much over here for the help my angle get better fund, right? Exactly. Doesn't, doesn't work. [00:35:01] No, [00:35:01] Allison Sesso: it doesn't. It doesn't work that way, unfortunately. But I do. But I will say this, when we work with hospitals and increasingly so, Our vision is for when we work with hospitals that they take a look at their financial assistance policies and try, because you're right hospitals, especially non-profit hospitals. [00:35:20] Mm-hmm. are supposed to give out charity care. They're supposed to focus on low income individual. Remember that [00:35:25] George Weiner: C3 classification in the old taxis? [00:35:27] Allison Sesso: Yes, exactly. But the thing is that, Hospitals don't really get that classification taken away. Like that's not, that's not a thing that really happens that frequently. [00:35:38] Yeah, I, and I, and I don't, I don't mean to imply at all that hospitals don't take that seriously. I think they take it very seriously there. They're nonprofit status, and again, not all hospitals are alike. There are some bad actors and there are some that are genuinely struggling right now. Hospitals are not really in a great financial place. [00:35:56] Compared to some of the patients, they're probably better off. It depends, you know, on the situation. But hospitals are supposed to provide charity care, bottom line, and so they are not necessarily as generous as our program. So there's people in between, like some of them could be 200% of poverty or there's discounts provided at 300% of poverty, not the full, you know, getting it all relieved like r I p. [00:36:21] So we do hope though, that by doing an analysis of their bad debt file people, that means people that did not get charity care, whose debt we are buying, that we're able to give them information that helps them reflect on their own charity care policies and approaches, like letting people actually know about the charity care, making sure the application process is not to burdensome. [00:36:45] We encourage hospitals to do what's called presumptive eligibility, meaning that they just take a look on their own by buying data from, from TransUnion like we do, or any other, you know, Equifax, whatever. Buying the data, looking at people's incomes and making assumptions about whether or not they deserve or, you know, can get. [00:37:02] Charity care based on their income, and then they just give it without, just like we do. We just give it away. We let people know that they've gotten this free kick, this debt relief without them having to fill out any paperwork or anything like that. . [00:37:17] George Weiner: So that's so interesting. I didn't realize You're not looking at pii, personally identifiable information to the degree where you see maybe a name and an address. [00:37:24] You're getting like top line stats on somebody Or could you do like, do the search for, you know, George, we in Texas who's got 45 K in debt and you're like, Ah, I found [00:37:34] Allison Sesso: you, you're there. No. Well, when we get a, when we get a file, so we are HIPAA compliant, right? So we, we have a DAA with the hospital and, and we, you know, we do keep , uh, we're very vigilant about our, our cyber security and all of that other stuff. [00:37:47] But, and we, we have to be able to have the information of the individual or else we wouldn't be able to let them know about the fact that we've relieved their debt. Right. Right. You do know it. Right. So we do have that information, but, When we analyze a file from a hospital, we're doing it in the aggregate. [00:38:03] We're not focusing on the individual at all, that we're completely ignoring the individual's name and all of that stuff. All we're focusing on is those elements that qualify them, and so we take the entire part that qualifies, and that's what we hold onto, and then we send out the letters after we've bought that debt, et cetera, etc. [00:38:24] George Weiner: Gotcha. I love, still, in my mind I'm thinking like, but there's technically a way I could go through and be like, if my name comes up, let's just say I'd be, uh, encouraged to make a donation. You'd never do it, but would it open up a second? Don't get my debt for me. [00:38:42] Allison Sesso: Let you know. We'd never, ever let you, We would not, we don't give away the names of the individuals that we. [00:38:49] if people want to tell their stories, they are encouraged to do so, and we let them do that and they can put their stories on their web, on our website, and they can talk to our anthropologist, but we would never tell a donor you helped X, Y, Z. Ever. [00:39:01] George Weiner: Oh, that's fair. I was saying in reverse like the, the person who's like in distress, like, could I go search a database to be like, Oh, I'm in this distressed category of people, but you can't open up it up because of hipaa. [00:39:11] Yeah. [00:39:12] Allison Sesso: Well, you need to find out if we already relieved your debt. If it's already gone, we, we would've notified you. [00:39:20] George Weiner: Oh, thank you for humoring me. I'm such a, such a rabbit hole runner. That's even a thing. All right, we're gonna move to rapid fire. okay. With your permission, Please keep your responses as short as you feel like they, eh, feel like. [00:39:34] Okay. What is one tech tool or website that you or your organization has started using in the last year? [00:39:40] Allison Sesso: Max Q D, which is a qualitative data analysis visualization tool. Cool. [00:39:49] George Weiner: What are some tech issues you're currently battling with? [00:39:53] Allison Sesso: Well, we are making sure that our cyber security is so to compliant, so we're really focused on that and we're super excited about that. [00:40:01] And we also are trying to send people emails in addition to hard copy letters, and so we're working to incorporate that into our model. , [00:40:10] George Weiner: what is coming in the next year that has you the most excited? [00:40:15] Allison Sesso: The ability to enhance how we analyze our data, specifically with a focus on. [00:40:24] George Weiner: Talk about a mistake that you made in or maybe earlier in your career that shapes the way you do things today. [00:40:33] Allison Sesso: Creating space for everyone who's a stakeholder, be it on the board, on your team, uh, donor to make their voice heard and to be part of decision making. By not doing that, I think you really undermine everyone's buyin to what you're doing and the direction you're headed. [00:40:52] And that was a mistake I made in my career that I have overcorrected for, probably . [00:40:59] George Weiner: Do you believe nonprofits can successfully go out of business? [00:41:04] Allison Sesso: I sure hope so. I really do. I think that nonprofits are generally not set up to solve problems, but resolve them in your. And I hope that nonprofits can have a greater voice in getting systemic change so that they can help solve problems at a larger scale. [00:41:24] George Weiner: If I were to put you in the hot tub time machine, back to the beginning of your work at r I p Medical debt, what advice would you give your dryer self yourself [00:41:34] Allison Sesso: to focus on the progress over the. So that I could feel more excited about the work that I'm doing going forward and less [00:41:43] George Weiner: stressed. Uh, if I were to give you a magic wand to wave across the industry you work in, what would it do? [00:41:52] And you can't say, just clean up every single bit of debt [00:41:57] Allison Sesso: across the industry. Uh, I would, I, I would say, and when I say the industry, I'm talking about the nonprofit industry at large, I would say improve the marketing of the industry. I think that we. A, a skewed view as if we are the secondary industry that's sort of just doing what everyone calls God's work, which I hate. [00:42:16] I think that we are doing an essential, fundamental, fundamental function for society and that it takes real skill that not everybody has, and not everyone can from a business can just jump in and do, and take over and do well. And I think that I would do a better job of marketing who we are and how important we are as an, as an industry in terms of non. [00:42:38] George Weiner: What is something you think you should stop doing? [00:42:43] Allison Sesso: Uh, sometimes I think we put our heads down too much and do the day to day work, you know, going in and outta of meetings, taking, checking off our to-do list and I think we need to stop doing that as much and put our, pick our heads up and look at the big picture and appreciate what we've accomplished. [00:42:59] George Weiner: How did you get your start in the social impact sector? [00:43:04] Allison Sesso: I don't have a good answer for that. I feel like it's a calling for me. As lame and cheesy as that sounds, I've always, uh, felt like I needed to work in a mission driven, uh, capacity. And so here I am. , [00:43:19] George Weiner: what advice would you give college grads looking to enter the sector? [00:43:24] make sure that you have a strong ethical and moral compass and that you have people to talk to to ensure you stay with that because money and donors even can really influence you in a way that's not [00:43:37] George Weiner: always. What advice did your parents give you that you either followed or did not? Heed [00:43:47] Allison Sesso: Finding balance in my life, both in terms of work happiness and personal happiness. [00:43:56] To be [00:43:56] George Weiner: clear, you heated that advice. I [00:44:00] Allison Sesso: did. Yes. I'm very happy in both my work life and my, My question [00:44:03] audio1239347413: could [00:44:03] George Weiner: have gone the other way there. Life, right? could have been a real dark turn. Yeah. Uh, that's wonderful. Uh, how do people find you? How do people help you? [00:44:14] Allison Sesso: Well, first donate to us please. Uh, r i p medical debt.org. [00:44:19] I can't do this work without that. You can also follow us on Twitter, on Instagram. Just add our ip medical debt. but I really encourage you to, uh, to take a look at our website, check us out and, and talk about the issue of medical debt, uh, how it impacts you. I think one of the biggest problems with this issue is that people feel like they've personally failed when the reality is the system is broken. [00:44:41] And you have to remember that. And unless we talk about it in our personal stories, this issue's gonna be with us and it's gonna be killing us slowly, literal. [00:44:51] George Weiner: I'm grateful for the work that you are doing. Thank you. Thank you for, uh, just, uh, continuing to, to make this a national issue and an Avenue, Avenue to finally put dollars to work, I think, in a high leverage way. [00:45:03] Thank you. Thank you.

The Steffan Tubbs Show Podcast
Steffan Tubbs Show 10-3-22 Hr1

The Steffan Tubbs Show Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 4, 2022 43:14


Happy Monday! We begin with President Biden in Puerto Rico after last week's hurricane. More than 174 people killed in Java at a soccer game stampede. The VP discusses "equity" and hurricane relief, as it could bypass communities of color and women. Barf and lies. Music Monday with birthday (and Hollaback girl) Gwen Stefani/No Doubt. Then - The Common Sense Insitute is out with its "Crime In Colorado In 2022" report. The numbers are astonishing. We wrap with our Money Monday feature and David Fischer, www.landmarkgold.com  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Bo Snerdley / James Golden
Hollaback, Bo! | 10-03-2022

Bo Snerdley / James Golden

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2022 49:16


Today on Bo Snerdley's Rush Hour: Bo makes amends with a frequent caller, and rips into the city for ripping apart its citizens. How can Mayor Adams, Letitia James, and progressives keep letting criminals run free and why are they so wrapped up in hate? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bo Snerdley's Rush Hour
Hollaback, Bo! | 10-03-2022

Bo Snerdley's Rush Hour

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2022 49:16


Today on Bo Snerdley's Rush Hour: Bo makes amends with a frequent caller, and rips into the city for ripping apart its citizens. How can Mayor Adams, Letitia James, and progressives keep letting criminals run free and why are they so wrapped up in hate? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Naturally Savvy
EP #1126: Racism is a Public Health Crisis - Antiracism with W. Kamau Bell, Ali Michael, & Eleonora Bartolli

Naturally Savvy

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2022 27:26


There are TWO interviews back to back!  Lisa is first joined by W. Kamau Bell about his latest book, Do the Work!: An Antiracist Activity Book.  The second interview Lisa is joined by Ali Michael and Eleonora Bartolli, the authors of Our Problem, Our Path: Collective Antiracism for White People. Do the Work!: An Antiracist Activity BookW. KAMAU BELL is a dad, husband, and comedian. He directed and executive-produced the four-part Showtime documentary We Need To Talk About Cosby, which premiered at Sundance. He famously met with the KKK on his Emmy-Award-winning CNN docu-series United Shades of America with W. Kamau Bell, where he serves as host and executive producer. He has appeared on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon, The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, Conan, The Daily Show with Trevor Noah, CBS Mornings, MSNBC's Morning Joe, Comedy Central, HBO, Fresh Air with Terry Gross, WTF with Marc Maron, The Breakfast Club, and This American Life. He has two stand-up comedy specials, Private School Negro (Netflix) and Semi-Prominent Negro (Showtime). Kamau's writing has been featured in Time, The New York Times, Vanity Fair, The Hollywood Reporter, CNN.com, Salon, and The LA Review of Books. Kamau's first book has an easy-to-remember title, The Awkward Thoughts of W. Kamau Bell: Tales of a 6' 4", African American, Heterosexual, Cisgender, Left-Leaning, Asthmatic, Black and Proud Blerd, Mama's Boy, Dad, and Stand-Up Comedian. He is the ACLU Artist Ambassador for Racial Justice and serves on the board of directors of Donors Choose and the advisory board of Hollaback!Our Problem, Our Path: Collective Antiracism for White People. ALI MICHAEL: pronunciation: ALI (Alee) Michael (no S) - as the Co-Director of the Race Institute for K-12 Educators, Ali Michael, Ph.D. works with schools and organizations across the country to help make research on race, Whiteness, and education more accessible and relevant to educators. Ali is the author of Raising Race Questions: Whiteness, Inquiry and Education, winner of the 2017 Society of Professors of Education Outstanding Book Award. She is a member of a multiracial editorial team and sits on the editorial board of the journal Whiteness and Education. Her article, What do White Children Need to Know About Race?, co-authored with Dr. Eleonora Bartoli in Independent Schools Magazine, won the Association and Media Publishing Gold Award for Best Feature Article in 2014. When she is not writing, speaking, or training, Ali is striving to be an antiracist co-parent to two amazing kids. Her writing and speeches are available at alimichael.org. ELEONORA BARTOLI, PH.D. pronunciation: Elee-uh-nor-uh (pronounced every vowel) - Bart-oh-lee - is a consultant and licensed psychologist, specializing in trauma, resilience-building, and multicultural/social justice counseling. She earned her Ph.D. in Psychology: Human Development/Mental Health Research from the University of Chicago. After receiving her clinical license, she opened a small independent practice, which she has held since. After 15 years in academia (12 of those years as the director of a Master's in counseling program), she became a full-time consultant. Her mission is to share the tools of counseling and psychology in support of social justice work. Throughout her career, Dr. Bartoli has held leadership positions in professional organizations at both the state and national levels. She has also presented at numerous conferences and is the author of several publications. In all her work, Dr. Bartoli integrates an understanding of neuroscience, focusing on how it informs symptom development as well as healing and resilience-building strategies.Dr. Bartoli has been the recipient of academic awards. Her website: dreleonorabartoli.com

Dear White Women
184: Do the Work with W. Kamau Bell

Dear White Women

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 13, 2022 15:33


Someone very smart sent me an article just today that talks about the role of humor when we deal with stressful situations/anxiety-creating moments. And on that front: have any of you (and in this moment, I think we're specifically talking to White people) ever felt weighed down by how heavy anti-racism work can be?  You maybe noticed that sometimes we're pretty serious on this show…   Though I'm a serious, overthinking person sometimes, in real life I'm goofy and I actually make fun of myself quite a lot, texting photos of myself in awful workout outfits to you, you have the driest sense of humor of all the people I know except for your husband like we're not that dry.   So what do you all think about listening to about 15 minutes of one of the funniest activist-comedians out there today - hearing how HE, a funny guy, might explain what might be great for White women to do in this work, how to process how tired we all are, and what crocheting has to do with it.   What to listen for:  Why understanding the history of the United States is important to understanding where we are today What Kamau Bell would tell White women on the whole - including how if we had the same energy for anti-racism that we had for coordinating our kids' summer camps, we would be there by the end of the summer, maybe? There's no issue of oppression in this country that hurts White people that doesn't connect back to really really hurting the Black, Brown, Indigenous, Asian, and Latinx populations  W. KAMAU BELL is a dad, husband, and comedian. He directed and executive-produced the four-part Showtime documentary We Need To Talk About Cosby, which premiered at Sundance. He famously met with the KKK on his Emmy-Award-winning CNN docu-series United Shades of America with W. Kamau Bell, where he serves as host and executive producer. He has appeared on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon, The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, Conan, The Daily Show with Trevor Noah, CBS Mornings, MSNBC's Morning Joe, Comedy Central, HBO, Fresh Air with Terry Gross, WTF with Marc Maron, The Breakfast Club, and This American Life. He has two stand-up comedy specials, Private School Negro (Netflix) and Semi-Prominent Negro (Showtime). Kamau's writing has been featured in Time, The New York Times, Vanity Fair, The Hollywood Reporter, CNN.com, Salon, and The LA Review of Books. Kamau's first book has an easy-to-remember title, The Awkward Thoughts of W. Kamau Bell: Tales of a 6' 4", African American, Heterosexual, Cisgender, Left-Leaning, Asthmatic, Black and Proud Blerd, Mama's Boy, Dad, and Stand-Up Comedian. He is the ACLU Artist Ambassador for Racial Justice and serves on the board of directors of Donors Choose and the advisory board of Hollaback! Along with Kate Schatz, he's the co-author of Do the Work: An Anti-Racist Activity Book. For more information, please visit: http://www.wkamaubell.com/, or follow W. Kamau on Twitter here and Instagram here.

This Needs To Be Said
Mrs. TNTBS hosts Author/Activist W. Kamau Bell (part II)

This Needs To Be Said

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2022 14:54


Kamau brings his professional experience as a stand-up comic, TV host, writer, and cultural critic, and his personal experience as a Black man and father. Kate brings her professional experiences as a bestselling author, historian, and high school teacher, along with her personal experiences as a white queer mom and longtime feminist activist. Readers hear from other notable figures in the creative and academic communities including a foreword from Alicia Garza, cofounder of the international Black Lives Matter movement, and lessons from Nikki Jones, professor of African American Studies at UC Berkeley, who explores the crisis of policing in America, and Nathan Alexander, professor of Mathematics at Morehouse College, who shows readers how math can be used to understand—and transform—racist policies. DO THE WORK! is inclusive but it's not exhaustive—or the definitive final word on ending racism. Rather, it's a companion to all the other powerful resources available. The authors give a nod to the likes of How to Be an Antiracist by Ibram X. Kendi; Sister Outsider by Audre Lorde, A Black Women's History of the United States by Daina Ramey Berry and Kali Nicole Gross, Me and White Supremacy by Layla Saad, and countless other important bodies of work that explore race in America. This is a bridge between the essential reading and the critical action. Extraordinarily designed by more than 15 BIPOC artists and illustrators and crafted with powerhouse authorship, DO THE WORK! is a revolutionary workbook for anyone looking to make a difference in ending structural and institutional racism through sustained antiracism work, and a reckoning for those struggling to make sense of the histories that got us here. ABOUT THE AUTHORS W. KAMAU BELL is a dad, husband, and comedian. He directed and executive-produced the four-part Showtime documentary We Need To Talk About Cosby, which premiered at Sundance. He famously met with the KKK on his Emmy-Award-winning CNN docu-series United Shades of America with W. Kamau Bell, where he serves as host and executive producer. He has appeared on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon, The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, Conan, The Daily Show with Trevor Noah, CBS Mornings, MSNBC's Morning Joe, Comedy Central, HBO, Fresh Air with Terry Gross, WTF with Marc Maron, The Breakfast Club, and This American Life. He has two stand-up comedy specials, Private School Negro (Netflix) and Semi-Prominent Negro (Showtime). Kamau's writing has been featured in Time, The New York Times, Vanity Fair, The Hollywood Reporter, CNN.com, Salon, and The LA Review of Books. Kamau's first book has an easy-to-remember title, The Awkward Thoughts of W. Kamau Bell: Tales of a 6' 4", African American, Heterosexual, Cisgender, Left-Leaning, Asthmatic, Black and Proud Blerd, Mama's Boy, Dad, and Stand-Up Comedian. He is the ACLU Artist Ambassador for Racial Justice and serves on the board of directors of Donors Choose and the advisory board of Hollaback! Along with Kate Schatz, he's the co-author of Do the Work: An Anti-Racist Activity Book. For more information, please visit: http://www.wkamaubell.com/, or follow W. Kamau on Twitter here and Instagram here. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/tntbsmedia/message

Jersey Ghouls
Episode 163: Jersey Ghouls vs Psycho 1 & 2

Jersey Ghouls

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 5, 2022


The Ghouls are joined by Chris of The Last Film on the Left blog to discuss Alfred Hitchcock's masterpiece, Psycho and the sequel that came out 22 years later. Keep up with Chris on his blog The Last Film on the Left where he reviews horror movies with a spiritual perspective! Click to read the article that Marissa referenced — Psycho Feminism: from Hitchcock to Hollaback and Back Again written by Greg Scorzo.

Redeye
Study shows effectiveness of bystander intervention in street harassment

Redeye

Play Episode Listen Later May 6, 2022 15:28


Hollaback! began as a blog to collect stories of street harassment. Now called Right To Be, it has evolved into an organization that fights harassment in all its forms. The first training they developed was on tools to combat street harassment. They have just completed a study that shows the effectiveness of the training for participants. We speak with director of training Kelly Erickson.

Married To PTSD
3. Good Months and Bad Months

Married To PTSD

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 27, 2022 30:10


Emails from Hollaback, Taffy, and Raz. These ladies are just trying to get to the good months instead of the bad day after day!

Unhappy Hour with Matt Bellassai
Doctor Who Gives A Sh*t

Unhappy Hour with Matt Bellassai

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 22, 2022 62:03


A half giraffe-sized asteroid, a brand new butt, and diving deep in to the doctor's office. For DBWP, Bari wants to highlight Right To Be (formerly Hollaback), bystander intervention training to combat street harassment. Bari has been watching Winning Time and Matt has been binging Ghosts. Follow the Unhappy Hour squad on social media: @MattBellassai, @FinkelBariPie, @UnhappyHourPod (on Twitter,) and @UnhappyHour (on Instagram).  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Add to Cart with Kulap Vilaysack & SuChin Pak
Coyotes, Cat Eyes & Cocktails

Add to Cart with Kulap Vilaysack & SuChin Pak

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 15, 2022 40:46


This week, Kulap and SuChin are happy to be psychoanalyzing each other again. What does it mean that SuChin is slathering her narrow feet in another French pharmacy find or that Kulap is literally chasing coyotes out of her backyard with jingle bells? It sure is fun to speculate. Plus, after an unsettling incident at REI, Ku and Su talk about how much has changed for them with all the violence against AAPI people over the last two years. They talk about resources you can use as a bystander and ways to stay informed.   Please note, Add To Cart contains mature themes and may not be appropriate for all listeners.    To see all products mentioned in this episode, head to @addtocartpod on Instagram. To purchase any of the products, see below.    The balm SuChin is using on her bony little feet The Linda Linda's music video for “Growing Up”, directed by Humberto Leon Kulap is loving the Cartoon 3D Style filter on Snapchat that makes her look like a Pixar princess Here are the 5 D's of bystander intervention from Hollaback. Make sure to check out their different trainings and additional resources Also head to Next Shark, Stop AAPI Hate, Hate is a Virus and Diet Prada for more ways to support the AAPI community as hate crimes continue  Kulap is making tequila sours from this recipe SuChin is actually falling asleep with this method   Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium.    Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: lemonadamedia.com/sponsors   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

For Your Listening Pleasure
Danielle Peterson - Hollaback Cards Founder, All Things Pop Culture and Bravo

For Your Listening Pleasure

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2022 53:00


Danielle Peterson is the founder and creator of Hollaback Cards. I started following Danielle years ago on Instagram and have been lucky enough to watch her business grow over the years. In this episode we talk about balancing our corporate jobs and passion projects, the benefits of social media and the impact it has on women as well as our mutual love for all things pop culture and Bravo.  

Uncle Dan’s Daycare
1-20-22: Survival Guide to Life interview with Sohrab Forouzesh

Uncle Dan’s Daycare

Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2022


what's good everybody welcome to dank and snooze. The only news that ain't no Hollaback girl. No, I ain't. No Hollaback girl. We got a special treat today for your little fucks live in the studio with me is world famous survivalists or rob for a zest. So rob. So glad you're here Now. My very first question. You fought a bear, didn't you? Yes, stan I did fight a bear. I did not win that fight. The bear won the fonts. I was humiliated and then my wife left me for the bear. Well, I hope they both die. Thank you. Now sir, rob. Do you have any tips for anybody out there looking to survive in the wilderness? Maybe? What should people bring with them? You don't need to bring anything. You don't need to bring a sleeping bag. You don't need to bring food or water. You can find all that stuff out in nature. That's what's so great about nature. What about like starting fires? Why would you want to start a fire day? And fires are dangerous. You're here at forest fires and I don't know you got to keep warm. You got there's better ways to keep warm. You just bring alcohol so you do bring something. Here's what you bring. You bring, you bring some whiskey, you bring a handful of sleeping pills and you bring your vacuum cleaner. All right? You're gonna thank me later because once you have your little living space set up, you don't want dirty floor. You don't want a dirty floor. It's not, not, not fun. You know the problem is finding something to plug the vacuum cleaner into. Yeah. That can be hard. But usually when I'm out in the wilderness I have no problem finding power outlets. Yeah. They're they're they're just they're just hidden. They're hidden right there, hidden beneath the ground.Check out the replies and reactions on Beams.fm

The Feminist Shift
S2 E3: Network of Neighbours Violence Prevention Training (Part Two)

The Feminist Shift

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2021 35:59


In response to the shadow pandemic of gender-based violence, experienced over the course of the pandemic, we created Network of Neighbours Violence Prevention Training. This training empowers citizens to help a neighbour experiencing abuse in the home through building their confidence, knowledge and skills to intervene. In Part Two of this podcast training we review four unique types of interventions you can support folks experiencing violence with in different circumstances. We review the bystander training model used by Hollaback (https://www.ihollaback.org/), we look at safety planning around fleeing the home, how to have a prevention conversation with someone whose behaviours are nearing closer to abusive, and how to get more out of calling the police in situations of imminent harm. We also cover what you can expect to see post intervention and how to continue to support someone in ongoing ways. This training was developed and is facilitated by The Feminist Shift with funding from the Canadian Women's Foundation Safe and Stronger Grants. By the end of this two part podcast you will have gained an understanding of yourself and your assumptions, and will have developed your own signature approach to providing support.

Critics w/o Credentials
The 2021 Spooky Extravaganza - Hollaback Ghoul - Insidious Chapter 2

Critics w/o Credentials

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 28, 2021 44:27


For the 10 entry of this season, Nicole won the category of Hollaback Ghoul, which centers around angry or vengeful spirits, and chose Insidious: Chapter 2 for the group to watch and discuss. 

Wine, Dine, and 69
Episode 42: "Dating, What the F*ck?" with Lori

Wine, Dine, and 69

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 22, 2021 69:45


Rachel follows up from last week and talks about a Huffpost article that led her to the amazing resource “Hollaback!”. This week’s guest is Lori, author of Dating, What the F*ck?. They discuss online dating statistics, disastrous dating stories, and more! Episode Notes: Conversation with Lori begins at 00:09:13 Follow Lori: Website: https://datingwhatthefuck.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DatingIsHorrible Greeting Cards: https://forpetessakecards.com/ Constant Chaos: https://constant-chaos.com/ From the Intro:Huffpost Article: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bystander-intervention-domestic-violence_n_60f6fbb6e4b0ddf00978d22f Hollaback!: https://www.ihollaback.org/ --------Let’s keep talking! Have a question or idea for a topic? Email winedine@allportsopen.com!Podcast artwork by Yogesh Nankar (Design by Dreamers).Intro and Outro music by John Bartmann.

The Babesment
84. How to Change Culture + End Harassment Through Small Actions with Gabriela Mejia of Hollaback!

The Babesment

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 4, 2021 61:27


We're going to take a break from our typical body image stories to talk about something else that's vitally important. Gabriela Mejia is the communications and programs manager at Hollaback!, a global movement aiming to end harassment of all kinds. They teach incredible, free bystander intervention training courses that can empower you to stand up and do something when you see injustices taking place. If you want to get out there, take action, and make this world a better place: this episode is for YOU. Go take a look at their free (but donations are highly encouraged!) training videos on a number of resources to end harassment for good. Come hang out and learn more about us at http://thebabesment.com/ (thebabesment.com)! Resources: Learn more: https://www.ihollaback.org/ (ihollaback.org) Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ihollagram/ (@ihollagram) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabriela-mejia-8b503a115 (linkedin.com/in/gabriela-mejia-8b503a115) Our merch shop is open for one last hurrah! Find it at https://www.bonfire.com/store/the-babesment/ (bonfire.com/store/the-babesment) Connect with Stef Streb Website | https://www.stefstrebphoto.com/ (stefstrebphoto.com) Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/stefstreb/ (@stefstreb) Linktree | https://linktr.ee/stefstreb (linktr.ee/stefstreb) Connect with Julie Ohlemacher Website | https://julieohlemacher.com/ (julieohlemacher.com) Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/julie.ohlemacher/ (@julie.ohlemacher) Linktree | https://linktr.ee/julie.ohlemacher (linktr.ee/julie.ohlemacher) The Babesment is a production of http://crate.media (Crate Media)

The Empowered Woman Rises
EP8: Fighting Harassment By Practicing Allyship Through Bystander Intervention: Interview With Hollaback's Gabriela Mejia

The Empowered Woman Rises

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2021 34:33


Have you ever witnessed harassment - whether in the workplace or on the street - and not known what to do? In this episode, I interview Gabriela to find out the best ways you as a bystander can intervene to protect women from harassment in the workplace as well as in other public spaces. I am also linking the FREE training you can take to learn more about this below.https://www.ihollaback.org/bystanderintervention/Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/theempoweredwomanrises)

The Brown Girls Guide to Politics

AAJC and Hollaback! are offering free, remote, anti-bias training seminars. Sign up at https://advancingjustice-aajc.org/eventsThe Brown Girls Guide to Politics Podcast is all about amplifying the voices of women who are too often forgotten in media coverage. Host A'shanti Gholar leads conversations with women changing the face of politics. In the BGG to Politics blog, A'shanti created a space for women of color to learn about the current state of politics, to support others breaking into the political sphere, and to celebrate incredible women changing the course of the country. A'shanti founded the blog in 2018 and Wonder Media Network is thrilled to extend her platform to audio.Follow The BGG:WebsiteTwitterInstagramFollow Wonder Media Network:WebsiteTwitterInstagram

Crisis Of Faith With Joe And Drew

Drew tells of a wonderful conversation about Torah Law he had with his grandmother. Joe makes tasteless menopause jokes, curses the elderly, and refuses to help write the description. And they bid farewell year one in the Crisis Of Faith Podcast. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/crisisoffaith/message

But Her Lyrics...
Big Words - 007

But Her Lyrics...

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2021 68:10


This episode of But Her Lyrics… tackles track 6 of Wonderful Hell, “Big Words'' with Emily May of Hollaback! Host Shawna and Emily talk through some of the best advice they've gotten from mentors, lessons learned in activism, knowing when your anger no longer serves you, fucking up as a white woman (and learning to do better), and the words Emily shared with Shawna to help her get through the personal conflict that inspired this song. This is a good episode for the music nerds, too! The band gets deep about the drum beat Dave wrote at a soundcheck in Toronto. The official sponsor of this podcast is First Defense Krav Maga out of Herndon, VA! To become a sponsor or just support the podcast, become a patron at patreon.com/shawnapotter All episode transcriptions and important links can be found right here a few days after the original air date: shawnapotter.com/#/but-her-lyrics-podcast --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/shawnapotter/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/shawnapotter/support

Buffering the Vampire Slayer
6.13 Dead Things

Buffering the Vampire Slayer

Play Episode Listen Later May 12, 2021 98:01


If only we could go back in time and be held by the sweet embrace of robot boyfriends, demons on the internet, snake mayors, and bad eggs. Alas, we are here together in Season 6, and today we are discussing Episode 13: Dead Things. Somehow, despite the heaviness of the episode itself, we find ourselves having a LOT to say about one Fatih Lehane, ranting on middle parts and Gen Z, and delighted in sheer horror at what has been done to Buffy's green t-shirt. Join us, we shall journey forth together! For a deeper conversation on the heavier themes in today's episode, please see below for information on the conversation between Alba Daza and Jess Clark! CW: Sexual Violence, Physical Violence +++ JESS CLARK in Conversation with Alba Daza CW: Sexual Violence, Physical Violence Listen here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/51142821 As noted in the intro to today's episode, Producer Alba Daza had a conversation with Jess Clark, doing a deeper dive into the trio's attempted rape and murder of Katrina in this week's episode — examining why Andrew and Jonathan, specifically, seem surprised to hear Katrina call it what it is by name, how the trio is specifically positioned to help us examine toxic masculinity, incel culture, and (of course) the patriarchy. Jess Clark is the Prevention Manager at Solace Crisis Treatment Center (a rape crisis center) in Santa Fe, NM and a consultant for Catharsis Productions out of Chicago. He has been doing sexual violence prevention for a decade and his work focuses on increasing youth capacity to interrogate systems of oppression, exploring queer/trans masculinites as a site of violence prevention, and supporting organizations in better serving transgender communities through policies and best practices.A massive thank you to both Jess and Alba for having this conversation. +++ LOCATE YOUR HOSTS UPON THE INTERNET Jenny Owen Youngs: @jennyowenyoungs; jennyowenyoungs.com Kristin Russo: @kristinnoeline; kristinnoeline.com Buffering the Vampire Slayer: @bufferingcast on twitter, facebook, and instagram Learn more about our team at bufferingthevampireslayer.com/our-team +++ Produced by: Kristin Russo, Jenny Owen Youngs, and Alba Daza Edited by: John Mark Nelson & Kristin Russo +++ JOIN OUR PATREON FAMILY!! Advance Music, Bonus Episodes, Live Concerts, Book Clubs, wheeeee!! patreon.com/bufferingcast MERCH, MERCH, MERCH! bufferingthevampireslayer.com/shop Logo: Kristine Thune +++ We acknowledge that we and our team are occupying unceded and stolen lands and territories. Kristin occupies the Lenape territories of the Esopus Lenape Peoples. Jenny occupies the Wabanahkik territory of the Abenaki and Pennacook Peoples. Alba occupies Tiohtià:ke of the Kanien'kehá:ka Nation. Mack, LaToya, and John Mark occupy the lands of the Kizh Peoples. Learn more about Land Acknowledgments + our continued anti-racist efforts at bufferingthevampireslayer.com/justkeepfighting Join us in participating in Hollaback's Bystander Intervention Training here: https://www.ihollaback.org/bystanderintervention/#bystander-stop-harassment Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Raise Your Hand Say Yes with Tiffany Han
EP. 368: Rediscovering Your Wildly-Creative Self with Flora Bowley

Raise Your Hand Say Yes with Tiffany Han

Play Episode Listen Later May 11, 2021 62:08


What if we approached our lives with the same sense of possibility, creativity, agency, and ingenuity as a painter approaching a canvas? Artist, author, and permission giver, Flora Bowley, joins us on the podcast once again to discuss her newest book, The Art of Aliveness, why there's no such thing as a waste of paint, and how we can transform our lives into our greatest work of art Resources mentioned:  Hollaback! Bystander Intervention Training Work with Flora Get your copy of The Art of Aliveness EP. 19: Flora Bowley on Letting Go Ep. 113: Flora Bowley on Revolution Join Tiffany's free Radical Delight Kickstart! Follow Tiffany on Instagram! Follow Flora on Instagram! For detailed show notes head to www.tiffanyhan.com/blog/episode368

Politically Asian! Podcast
2. Bye Bye Bystander: Two Asian Comedians Take Bystander Intervention Training

Politically Asian! Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 15, 2021 45:03


This week, we (Aaron and Gerrie) share our thoughts on Hollaback's Bystander Intervention training after taking it! With all the attacks on Asian people in America, we want to be less scared and more proactive individuals when it comes to stepping in to stop attacks on anyone. We also talk about how we self-care, whether self-care in an office setting is only for white people, and provide updates on new community solutions to combat hate incidents. -- WHAT'S POLITICALLY ASIAN PODCAST? Two Asians talking about politics and the Asian American community to get more Asians talking about politics! Join comedians Aaron Yin (he/him) and Gerrie Lim (they/them) for 45 minutes-ish each week as they discuss current topics and events related to Asian Americans through the lenses of history, class, and advocacy. Think John Oliver's show, but there's two of us, and we're Asian. -- CHECK US OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA: Our memes are so good Asian people will mention them when they meet us in real life. ➤ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/politicallyasianpodcast/ ➤ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/politicasianpod ➤ Website: www.politicallyasianpodcast.com -- INQUIRIES: politicallyasianpodcast@gmail.com -- SUPPORT US ON PATREON (currently fundraising for Canva Premium for even better memes and for episode transcription services): www.patreon.com/politicallyasian -- ALGORITHM? #asian #asianamerican #asianpodcast #asianpodcasters #podcast #asianpodcasts #aapi #stopasianhate #stopaapihate #apimedia #apahm #asiancomedy #asianjokes #asianmemes #subtleasiantraits #boba #asianpolitics #representation #representationmatters #asianculture #asianamericans #politics #asianpolitics #representasian #chinatown #abolition #aapihistory #crazyrichasians #shangchi #leftist

Nonviolence Radio
Bystander Intervention is only the beginning How Hollaback! is Creating a Culture of Community Accountability and Mutual Respect

Nonviolence Radio

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2021 58:29 Transcription Available


In the two weeks immediately following the Georgia attack that killed 8 people, 6 of them Asian women, over 40,000 people signed up for trainings in bystander intervention with an incredible organization called Hollaback! They're really leaders in the world of bystander intervention as a tool to end harassment, teaching a framework known as the “Five Ds” (Distract, Delegate, Document, Delay, and Direct) which many groups who do similar work borrow from them.According to Emily May, Hollaback!'s Co-Founder and Executive Director, “It's something that all of us can do to take care of each other when harassment happens that slowly but surely chips away at the institutions that underlie it – the institutions of racism and sexism and homophobia that allow it to proliferate to the extent to which it has.” She adds, however, that bystander intervention is only one piece of the solution, noting that we have to also turn to restorative and transformative justice, and “solutions we haven't even imagined yet.”I had the opportunity to speak with May from her Brooklyn office for Nonviolence Radio about showing up for community, the 5 Ds, why they don't recommend calling the police, the power of sharing our stories (they have an App for that!), and the importance of ‘resourcing' organizations like Hollaback! Following the interview, Michael Nagler gives the Nonviolence Report for the first week of April, 2021.

Nonviolence Radio
Bystander Intervention is only the beginning

Nonviolence Radio

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2021 32:38 Transcription Available


How Hollaback! is Creating a Culture of Communty Accountability and Mutual RespectIn the two weeks immediately following the Georgia attack that killed 8 people, 6 of them Asian women, over 40,000 people signed up for trainings in bystander intervention with an incredible organization called Hollaback! They're really leaders in the world of bystander intervention as a tool to end harassment, teaching a framework known as the “Five Ds” (Distract, Delegate, Document, Delay, and Direct) which many groups who do similar work borrow from them.According to Emily May, Hollaback!'s Co-Founder and Executive Director, “It's something that all of us can do to take care of each other when harassment happens that slowly but surely chips away at the institutions that underlie it – the institutions of racism and sexism and homophobia that allow it to proliferate to the extent to which it has.” She adds, however, that bystander intervention is only one piece of the solution, noting that we have to also turn to restorative and transformative justice, and “solutions we haven't even imagined yet.”I had the opportunity to speak with May from her Brooklyn office for Nonviolence Radio about showing up for community, the 5 Ds, why they don't recommend calling the police, the power sharing our stories (they have an App for that!), and the importance of ‘resourcing' organizations like Hollaback!  

Your Messy Friend
6: Your Messy Friend: How Are You?

Your Messy Friend

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2021 32:48


Hi, welcome to the podcast... I'm Your Messy Friend :) It's just you and me today, friends, as we delve into how you're (really) feeling, how our "Littles" might be feeling and what we'd do if imposter syndrome didn't exist. I share about my at home writing retreat and encourage you to create a little retreat of your own. Tune in for this and some messy feels as I yell at a passing motorcyclist, grapple with imperfection and get real about how we all can hold and feel so much at once. If you are interested in supporting the AAPI community, consider taking this free Bystander Intervention Training to stop Asian/American and Xenophobic Harrassment by Hollaback: https://www.ihollaback.org/bystanderintervention/ --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/kayleigh-shuler/message

Rev'ing Up: Answering the Call of Liberal-Religious Leadership

"We must transform ourselves and our communities in order to transform society." -- Grace Lee Boggs (1915-2015), organizer and author.On today's show, our hosts Carrie, Anthony, and Meagan discuss theological formation and moving between theory and practice in a process-oriented religion like Unitarian-Universalism. How do ministers develop their own theology and assist others to do the same?At the end of today's episode, Meagan mentions a few resources for anti-racists to engage with in response to the recent upsurge in violence against Asian-American and Pacific Islander communities in the US. Learn more and sign up for Hollaback bystander intervention training:  https://www.ihollaback.org/bystanderintervention/Donate to Asian-Americans Advancing Justice -- Atlanta: https://www.advancingjustice-atlanta.org/Read Michelle Kim on transformative justice, policing, and AAPI/Black solidarity: https://medium.com/awaken-blog/on-anti-asian-hate-crimes-who-is-our-real-enemy-207ee7354926Throughout the season, we will respond to your comments, suggestions, and questions. Please contact us at podcast@ccny.org and know you are invited to join us for a live conversational event hosted by CCNY at the end of May.This episode is also available on YouTube at youtube.com/c/ccnyuu! Subscribing, rating, and leaving a review is a wonderful way to support CCNY's broadcasting program. Thank you!

Mentally Together
Satomi Ishikawa - Mental health and supporting the Asian American community

Mentally Together

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 29, 2021 63:38


We can't keep our mental health strong when there are horrible things happening in the world. Just as we need to talk about our feelings, we need to talk about the big issues going on. And recently, there have been way too many horrific things happening to Asian Americans, including a series of mass shootings in Georgia, where 8 people were murdered, including 6 Asian women. We have to keep talking about these things and stop ignoring them - and hopefully that will kickstart some change. So today, we're talking to Satomi Ishikawa, a first-generation Japanese American living in Tokyo. She's a storyteller, community builder, and purpose-driven marketer from California. She wants to leave the world better than she found it, and I'm so grateful that part of that includes opening up about her own mental health and what she's experienced as an Asian American.This episode DOES discuss some  serious topics, including suicide. If you are experiencing some of those feelings yourself, please reach out to a professional for help. You can always reach The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255.Links from this episode:Sign up for Hollaback's bystander intervention trainingDonate to the GoFundMe page to stop AAPI hateYou can keep up with Mentally Together on Instagram @mentallytogetherpod. Cassidy's Instagram is @cassidyquinntv, and you can watch the video version of each podcast episode at YouTube.com/cassidyquinn.Books recommended by Mentally Together guests: https://bookshop.org/lists/mentally-togetherMentally Together is a creation from Cassidy Quinn in collaboration with Coba.fm.Support the show

The Black Minds Matter Podcast
Chapter 27: My Brother; Hallelujah Hollaback - an ode to Chef Rob

The Black Minds Matter Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 25, 2021 21:33


In the final chapter of Season 1, maK & Rev explain the bond they both shared with their big brother Robert E. Hickman Jr., better knows as Chef Rob. Each member of the N.I.L.E. had his own personal experience with the Chef and share how he was so inspirational in each of their lives. In this chapter, you will hear black men being able to express their brotherly love for one another and the importance of having positive males in the community.  Chef Rob was instrumental in both maK's & Rev's lives and they could not let a season go by without giving a great shout-out to their gone but not forgotten brother. Hallelujah Hollaback! Subscribe, Rate and Review!!  (E)thenile.est1981@gmail.com  (IG) thenile.est1981

The Rule of Three Podcast
S2 Ep8: The Hollaback Girls

The Rule of Three Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2021 55:05


This week on Rule of Three, we're doing something a little different, exploring the stories behind some popular songs and the women that inspired them! We'll be looking at Layla, written about Pattie Boyd, Lola Montez, about Lola Montez, and Hollaback Girl, surprisingly written about Courtney Love. Let us know what you think about this episode and if it's something we should continue in the future! After listening, go check us out on Instagram @ruleofthree333 and on Facebook at Rule of Three Podcast. Enjoy!

In These Uncertain Times
Leah Garlock on Fulbright, Adoption & Cultural Identity

In These Uncertain Times

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 2, 2021 40:45


Leah Garlock (she/her), Experience Designer and Fulbright ETA Grant Recipient, is here to discuss her various personal projects, the ways in which she's been virtually engaging with her communities, the exploration of her identity as a Korean American adoptee, and the challenges of coping with trauma in the midst of pandemic isolation. Leah (She/Her) believes design problem-solving is as much about actively listening, as it is about aesthetics. As an experience designer and illustrator, she takes a multimedia lens to explore social issues, cultural identity, and narratives on personal growth. She earned her BFA in Communications Design and Photography from Syracuse University where she received a grant to explore the cultural identity of Korean American adoptees. Her portfolio includes collaborations with nonprofits like the Center of Urban Pedagogy and Hollaback!, and Adoptee run organizations Also-Known-As, IKAA, Adopteen, and Adoptee Bridge. Outside of work and personal projects, Leah volunteers as the Communications Manager for Asian Womxn in the Arts (AWA), an organization that creates celebratory and healing spaces centering the work of womxn and LGBTQIA+ cultural workers in the Asian diaspora. In January 2021, she embarked to South Korea through a Fulbright ETA grant. Follow Leah on Instagram: @leah.chi.grace Connect with Leah via email: lggarlock@gmail.com.

The Unspeakable Radio Show
The Unspeakable Radio Show 24 w/Slowpo

The Unspeakable Radio Show

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 15, 2020 123:32


Unpronounceable bringing you a collection of selections from his hometown and around the world. Lockdown is starting to unwind around the world which means out guest takeover sessions will be coming to an end soon. We'll be putting out a show every week with the last of our favourite selects of selectors

Holla Back the Podcast
Holla Back Episode 1 - Intro

Holla Back the Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2020 6:50


What's up y'all! Here's episode #1! This episode serves as an introduction to the podcast as a whole, what HollaBack is all about, and who I am as the host on this airwave. Be ready to catch what will be featured on future episodes and other dope content. Hope you stay along on this journey, enjoy!

Solidarity Is This
Bystander, Upstander: Solidarity In Portland

Solidarity Is This

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 27, 2017 22:51


Deepa Iyer explores how bystanders become upstanders in the context of the train tragedy in Portland and white nationalism. Joseph Santos-Lyons with the Asian Pacific American Network of Oregon and Debjani Roy with Hollaback join the conversation.