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The Rich Zeoli Show- Full Episode (01/06/2025): 3:05pm- Snow Day? Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Delaware have all been hit with a dusting of snow throwing the station into chaos—consequently, Henry fills-in for Justin! But is he here for the full show? Even he doesn't know. 3:15pm- Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau—son of Pierre Trudeau and definitely not a relative of former Cuban dictator Fidel Castro—announced his intention to resign citing “internal battles” within his party. 3:20pm- On Monday, the U.S. House of Representative and Senate met for a joint session of Congress and certified the 2024 Presidential Election. Rich notes that Trump's unsuccessful challenger Vice President Kamala Harris was awkwardly forced to certify the election. 3:30pm- Hans von Spakovsky—Senior Legal Fellow in The Heritage Foundation's Edwin Meese III Center for Legal and Judicial Studies—joins The Rich Zeoli Show to a joint session of Congress certifying the 2024 Presidential Election, the Electoral Count Act, and his latest article for The Washington Times, “What to Do About ‘Unaccompanied Alien Children.'” You can read his article here: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/dec/31/unaccompanied-alien-children/ 3:50pm- “Coronavirus Timeline ‘Giant Scandal to Subvert' Trump.” Hannah Knudsen of Breitbart writes: “Officials knew about the coronavirus breakout in the fall of 2019—sooner than they claim—and the biotechnology used to create the virus developed in the U.S. and was then exported to China, Dr. Andrew Huff, author of The Truth About Wuhan: How I Uncovered the Biggest Lie in History.” You can read the full article here: https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2025/01/04/exclusive-dr-andrew-huff-coronavirus-timeline-giant-scandal-to-subvert-trump/ 4:05pm- Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau—son of Pierre Trudeau and definitely not a relative of former Cuban dictator Fidel Castro—announced his intention to resign citing “internal battles” within his party. Did Donald Trump's tariff threat have anything to do with Trudeau's decision to step down? 4:10pm- Host of The View Sunny Hostin outlandishly compared the riot at the U.S. Capitol on January 6th, 2021 to the Holocaust and chattel slavery. 4:15pm- On the four-year anniversary of January 6th, 2021, Rich replays then-President Donald Trump's address to his supporters. He told them to “go home” after previously insisting that people protest “peacefully.” 4:20pm- Robert DeNiro reveals that he doesn't change his 1-year-old's diapers. Rich wonders: who changes Robert DeNiro's diapers? 4:40pm- Why couldn't Matt bring a giant prosciutto home from Italy? Rich reenacts the interaction with customs and the prosciutto salesman. 5:00pm- While appearing on Fox News with Maria Bartiromo, Speaker of the House Mike Johnson revealed that he's planning to introduce “one big, beautiful bill” addressing several issues including border security, energy policy, and tax cuts—with language ending taxes on tips. 5:20pm- While speaking with Jake Tapper on CNN, Senator Jim Banks (R-IN) announced that he will support Kash Patel for FBI Director and Pete Hegseth for Secretary of Defense. 5:25pm- On Meet the Press, host Kristen Welker asked Senator Chuck Schumer if he lied to Americans when he repeatedly insisted President Joe Biden's mental acuity wasn't in decline. 5:40pm- The Dalai Lama shocked a BBC reporter when he suggested there should be limits placed on migration to Europe. Similarly, while appearing on a podcast, Vice President-elect J.D. Vance pointed out: "London no longer feels English. New York feels less American. This isn't real diversity." 6:05pm- Daniel Turner—Founder and Executive Director of Power The Future—joins The Rich Zeoli Show to discuss President Joe Biden's move to ban all future offshore oil and natural gas drilling on 625 million acres of oceans on America's East and West coasts, the Eastern Gulf of Mexico, and Alaska's North Bering Sea. 6:35pm- Do you wan ...

"The peaceful transfer of power is one of the most fundamental principles of American democracy. As much as any other principle, it is what distinguishes our system of government from monarchy or tyranny," said Vice President Kamala Harris. Today, four years after the Capitol was overrun, Congress is certifying Donald Trump's reelection under tightened rules and heightened security. Vice President Harris will oversee the process, which law enforcement officials have declared a national emergency event. Over 100 security changes have been implemented to ensure there is no repeat of the chaos. The certification process itself has also evolved. In 2022, Congress passed an overhaul of the Electoral Count Act, clarifying the vice president's role as strictly ceremonial. The revision closed a loophole that Trump had attempted to exploit by pressuring then-Vice President Mike Pence to overturn the election results. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Rich Zeoli Show- Hour 1: 3:05pm- Snow Day? Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Delaware have all been hit with a dusting of snow throwing the station into chaos—consequently, Henry fills-in for Justin! But is he here for the full show? Even he doesn't know. 3:15pm- Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau—son of Pierre Trudeau and definitely not a relative of former Cuban dictator Fidel Castro—announced his intention to resign citing “internal battles” within his party. 3:20pm- On Monday, the U.S. House of Representative and Senate met for a joint session of Congress and certified the 2024 Presidential Election. Rich notes that Trump's unsuccessful challenger Vice President Kamala Harris was awkwardly forced to certify the election. 3:30pm- Hans von Spakovsky—Senior Legal Fellow in The Heritage Foundation's Edwin Meese III Center for Legal and Judicial Studies—joins The Rich Zeoli Show to a joint session of Congress certifying the 2024 Presidential Election, the Electoral Count Act, and his latest article for The Washington Times, “What to Do About ‘Unaccompanied Alien Children.'” You can read his article here: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/dec/31/unaccompanied-alien-children/ 3:50pm- “Coronavirus Timeline ‘Giant Scandal to Subvert' Trump.” Hannah Knudsen of Breitbart writes: “Officials knew about the coronavirus breakout in the fall of 2019—sooner than they claim—and the biotechnology used to create the virus developed in the U.S. and was then exported to China, Dr. Andrew Huff, author of The Truth About Wuhan: How I Uncovered the Biggest Lie in History.” You can read the full article here: https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2025/01/04/exclusive-dr-andrew-huff-coronavirus-timeline-giant-scandal-to-subvert-trump/

Latest Israeli strikes kill at least 12 Palestinians across Gaza "At least 12 Palestinians were killed, and several others wounded, in Israel's latest air strikes on Gaza. A medical source reported that three were killed when a drone targeted a motorcycle near Rafah in southern Gaza. Four more lives were lost in an air strike on the Asdaa police station in Khan Younis, the source added. In Abasan Al-Kabira, east of Khan Younis, two Palestinians were killed, and others injured when civilians were hit by another air strike. Meanwhile, Al Awda Hospital confirmed that a strike on a house in Nuseirat camp, central Gaza, claimed two more lives. In Gaza City's Shujaiya neighbourhood, one Palestinian was killed, and several others were injured in an attack on a civilian gathering. " S Korea anti-corruption agency asks police to execute Yoon's arrest warrant "South Korea's anti-corruption agency has asked the police to take over enforcing the arrest warrant for impeached President Yoon Suk-yeol. This comes after a standoff with Yoon's presidential security service prevented his detention last week. Officials confirmed the discussions last week, just hours before the one-week warrant for Yoon's detention was set to expire. The Corruption Investigation Office for High-Ranking Officials is likely to seek a new warrant to extend the detention window, police said, adding that they are currently reviewing the agency's request. " Winter storm won't delay Trump election certification process — Johnson "House Speaker Mike Johnson says the massive winter storm sweeping across the US won't stop Congress from certifying Donald Trump's presidential election win on Monday. Under the Electoral Count Act, the task must be completed at 1 p.m. on January 6, regardless of conditions, Johnson told Fox News. He added that he has encouraged lawmakers to remain in Washington to ensure full attendance despite the storm. " Trudeau to announce resignation as early as Monday — Canadian media "Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is reportedly preparing to announce his resignation as Liberal Party leader as early as Monday, according to The Globe and Mail. Three sources told the outlet they expect the announcement before a key national caucus meeting on Wednesday. However, it's unclear if Trudeau plans to step down immediately or stay on as prime minister until a new leader is selected. " Musk does a U-turn on support for UK's anti-immigration party leader "Elon Musk seems to have reversed his stance on Nigel Farage, leader of the anti-immigration Reform UK party, after a public disagreement with the former Brexit figurehead. On Sunday, Musk posted on X that the Reform Party needs a new leader because Farage lacks what it takes. Farage had recently claimed he was in talks with Musk about a significant donation to his party, which had split the right-wing vote and helped Labour win July's general election. But things soured after Musk voiced support for jailed British extremist agitator Tommy Robinson, a move Farage publicly criticised."

The Electoral Count Act of 1887 (ECA) was law for 135 years. But then, Jan. 6, 2021, happened - the cause of which some partially attributed to the ECA (more about this in the interview). So, what was to be done? In 2022, Congress passed the ECRA, which will be law on Jan. 6, 2025, when the 119th Congress counts the 2024 Electoral votes. The ECRA is the Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022. The counting of the Electoral votes has pushed our country to the brink on multiple occasions. Imagine this: it's two days before the presidential inauguration, and our country still has no president-elect! This is not a hypothetical or something from a Hollywood thriller. This really happened in our history. That's what happens when the simple, boring process of counting the electoral votes - a mere formality really - goes awry! The January 6th after an election year is one of those days that usually goes unnoticed. Except, when something goes wrong. But each time something went wrong, like it seriously did on Jan. 6, 2021, Congress strove to improve the way it counts the Electoral votes. In this interview, my guest explains how Congress improved the process of counting the Electoral votes after each crisis, in 1804, 1887, 1933 and 2022.

SEASON 3 EPISODE 82: COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN A-Block (1:45) SPECIAL COMMENT: My friend – and what a privilege it has been to call him that – President Jimmy Carter would disagree that he is STILL the lead story, the day after. After all, he might note, he WAS 100, he was in hospice a year-and-a-half, his own grandson said he was in his final days – that was last May 15th. How, Keith, is this a surprise to you? The Braves letting Freddie Freeman leave should have been a surprise to you! He would probably disagree he was the best since FDR, probably arguing that the best since FDR at least got re-elected. I will make my case, and more importantly, my case that the fact he WASN’T re-elected was the beginning of the end. The 1980 election was when I realized America wanted a spokesmodel, not a leader. A fake smile, not principles; often somebody dumber than they were. Even Clinton and Obama and their exceptional presidencies prevailed on charisma. That we turned away a complete human for a mentally diminished bad actor who wasn't that sharp to begin with has set a pattern we may never break before the nation ends. I will also tell the thoroughly satisfying story of how President Carter became my friend, after which there was very little I could point to professionally and say 'I have left this unaccomplished.' B-Block (29:52) NEWS BREAK: Two legal scholars insist that a week from today Democrats in the house must refuse to certify Trump’s election because the specific legislation to disqualify him for insurrection that the Supreme Court demanded in this year’s 14th Amendment case already exists. But on the Washington-focused news site “The Hill” they insist no matter what the Supreme Court says and no matter what the consequences might be, Trump has already been DISQUALIFIED from federal office under the 14th Amendment AND Article Two gives the House sole authority to confirm a presidential election and I will add that while once again I cannot tell you how much this is not going to happen it would be nice to see Democrats do something, something, anything at all, just to peacefully protest what a failed and useless crapshow the government and its supposed protections against dictatorships and authoritarians and foreign control of our government has become – and what a hapless and flaccid vessel the Democratic party has become in the wake of Trump’s treacherous conspiracies to transform and subvert what was our clunky but largely functional form of representative government in, you know, the good old days of yore, like, oh, 2013 and 2014 into a subsidiary of Trump or Musk Enterprises. You know: AmericaX. C-Block (56:20) THE WORST PERSONS IN THE WORLD: What did you do on Christmas Eve? Go out into the cold, under-dressed, to search for Sasquatch? Last time they'll try that! Marianne Williamson is running for DNC chair because things ain't hella enough. And Cenk Uygur manages to beclown himself in a new way for the record-breaking 1000th time.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's time again for Popok to go to the blackboard to take a hard look at new calls to use the Electoral Count Act to have 20 percent of House and Senate members lodge an objection to Trump's electoral college votes to have Kamala win the presidency after all. Does the 14th Amendment allow it, and will this MAGA Supreme Court find that unless Congress acts to declare Trump an insurrectionist, all 14th Amendment attacks are useless? Popok explains. Trust & Will: Get 10% off plus free shipping of your estate plan documents by visiting https://trustandwill.com/LEGALAF Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The key in understanding how the certification process works comes through both the 12th Amendment to the Constitution, but also the 1887 Electoral Count Act which streamlined the contestation process.

The American Democracy Minute Radio Report & Podcast for Oct. 29, 2024It May Be Bumpy, But Most Democracy Experts Think the Electoral Count Reform Act Will Help Protect the ElectionOur last three reports focused on the likely plans for bad actors to subvert the election.  Thankfully, Congress passed the Electoral Count Reform Act of 2022, which most experts believe will prevail. How does it work?To view the whole script of today's report, please go to our website.Today's LinksArticles & Resources:Protect Democracy - Understanding the Electoral Count Reform Act of 2022Brennan Center for Justice - How Electoral Votes Are Counted for the Presidential ElectionCampaign Legal Center - Updating the Electoral Count Act to Protect the Will of the People in Presidential ElectionThe Fulcrum - Understanding the Electoral Count Reform ActNational Constitution Center - Democracy Checkup: Preparing for the 2024 ElectionCheck Your Voter Registration: U.S. Election Assistance Commission – Register And Vote in Your State USA Vote Foundation – Registration, Eligibility, State Election Office Links Vote.Gov – Register to Vote in Your State Vote.Org – Check Your Registration to Vote Please follow us on Facebook and SHARE!  Find all of our reports at AmericanDemocracyMinute.orgWant ADM sent to your email?  Sign up here!Are you a radio station?  Find our broadcast files at Pacifica Radio Network's Audioport and PRX#Democracy  #DemocracyNews #ProtectElections #ElectoralCountReformAct #ECRA

Friday, October 25th, 2024Today, Trump says he would fire Jack Smith in under two minutes if he wins the election; Mike Flynn admits under oath that there was no fraud with Dominion voting machines; Arizona ballots have been damaged after a mailbox was set on fire in a Dem leaning county; at least a dozen mail-in ballots were intercepted and cast in Mesa County Colorado; Beyonce is set to perform tonight with Kamala Harris at a rally in Houston; the DoJ has announced four criminal cases against people threatening election workers; a top election official in Nevada says she was forced out of her job; an Ohio judge has struck down the state's abortion ban citing the voter approved abortion amendment; and Allison and Dana deliver your Good News. If you want to try Beam's best-selling Dream Powder, get up to 50% off for a limited time when you go to ShopBeam.com/DAILYBEANS and use code DAILYBEANS at checkout.Guest: John Fugelsanghttps://www.johnfugelsang.com/tmehttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-john-fugelsang-podcast/id1464094232The Sexy Liberal Save The World Comedy Tourhttps://sexyliberal.comStories:Trump says he would fire Jack Smith ‘within two seconds' of becoming president (Hugo Lowell | The Guardian)Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer explained. "We encourage all voters who used that mailbox in the last 36 hours to check the status of their ballots at https://BeBallotReady.VoteMichael Flynn's Stunning Court Testimony Gives Away the Game (The New Republic)The top election official in a politically crucial Nevada county says she was forced out (Christina A. Cassidy | AP News)Justice Department Announces Four Cases Brought by Election Threats Task Force (DOJ)County judge strikes down Ohio abortion ban, citing voter-approved reproductive rights amendment (AP News)Harris Social Media Toolkit Harris Campaign Social Media Toolkit (kamalaharris.com)Give to the Kamala Harris Presidential Campaign Kamala Harris — Donate via ActBlue (MSW Media's Donation Link)See What's On Your Ballot, Check Your Voter Registration, Find Your Polling Place, Discover Upcoming Debates In Your Area, And Much More! Vote411.orgCheck Your Voter Registration! Vote.orgCheck out other MSW Media podcastshttps://mswmedia.com/shows/Subscribe for free to MuellerSheWrote on Substackhttps://muellershewrote.substack.com Here is my new ad for #HarrisWalz. My story never gets easier to tell, but everything is on the line this election. Please watch and share - x.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1847296099398361455There is a new “Harris For President” Patreon tier:https://www.patreon.com/muellershewrote/membershipHave some good news; a confession; or a correction to share?Good News & Confessions - The Daily Beanshttps://www.dailybeanspod.com/confessional/From The Good NewsJackie Boy And The Sea Folk Book (amazon.com)Instagram - @yvonneherbstartThreads - @yvonneherbstartMelissa Etheridge I'm Not Broken Docuseries (melissaetheridge.com) Check out other MSW Media podcastshttps://mswmedia.com/shows/Subscribe for free to MuellerSheWrote on Substackhttps://muellershewrote.substack.comFollow AG and Dana on Social MediaDr. Allison Gill https://muellershewrote.substack.comhttps://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrotehttps://www.threads.net/@muellershewrotehttps://www.tiktok.com/@muellershewrotehttps://instagram.com/muellershewroteDana Goldberghttps://twitter.com/DGComedyhttps://www.instagram.com/dgcomedyhttps://www.facebook.com/dgcomedyhttps://danagoldberg.comHave some good news; a confession; or a correction to share?Good News & Confessions - The Daily Beanshttps://www.dailybeanspod.com/confessional/ Listener Survey:http://survey.podtrac.com/start-survey.aspx?pubid=BffJOlI7qQcF&ver=shortFollow the Podcast on Apple:The Daily Beans on Apple PodcastsWant to support the show and get it ad-free and early?Supercasthttps://dailybeans.supercast.com/Patreon https://patreon.com/thedailybeansOr subscribe on Apple Podcasts with our affiliate linkThe Daily Beans on Apple Podcasts

Courts could see a wave of challenges, but experts say the bar to change the outcome is high When the Supreme Court stepped into the 2000 presidential race, Republican George W. Bush and Democrat Al Gore were separated by a razor-thin margin. The court's decision to halt the recount of votes in Florida effectively delivered the election to Bush and shaped the nation's future. The case is perhaps the most notable modern example of the judicial branch having a direct involvement after an election, but it's not the only time judges have been drawn into post-election disputes. America's court system has no formal role in the election process, and judges generally try not to get involved because they don't want to be seen as interfering or shaping a partisan outcome, said Paul Schiff Berman, a professor at George Washington University Law School. But election disputes have increasingly landed in court since Bush v. Gore, Berman said. This year could be especially contentious, coming after more than 60 unsuccessful lawsuits where then-President Donald Trump falsely claimed that he lost the 2020 election to Democrat Joe Biden due to massive voter fraud. Dozens of lawsuits have been filed this year, mostly concerning relatively small matters. "We have a long history in this country of a democratic process that operates in a nonpartisan manner with regard to vote counting that does not require constant court intervention, but that norm has been shattered in the same way that many of our democratic norms have been shattered since 2016," Berman said. Court cases could start election night over whether to keep polling places open if they experienced trouble affecting access during the day. After the votes are all cast, lawsuits over the vote count could be next. That could involve claims about the counting of certain ballots, allegations against the election officials overseeing the count, disputes over the methodology or challenges to the certification of the vote totals in each state. There could be lawsuits over recent updates to the Electoral Count Act, which governs the certification of the presidential contest. The revisions were passed by Congress in 2022 in response to Trump's effort to overturn the 2020 results by pressuring his vice president, Mike Pence, over congressional certification of the states' electors. How much a lawsuit might affect the outcome of an election depends on how many votes are in dispute and what kind of a solution a judge might order if a problem is found. In some cases, "It isn't clear what the remedy would be if these suits were successful," said Steven Schneebaum, an attorney and adjunct professor at Johns Hopkins University. If the 2024 race is very close, court rulings could affect the outcome, especially in the swing states that will be key to the election. But for a lawsuit to affect the race, the election would have to be so close that the court would have to determine how people voted or one side would have to prove a major, fundamental problem with how it was run, said Rick Hasen, an elections expert and law professor at the University of California, Los Angeles. "The standard to overturn an election is extremely high, for good reason," he said. "We want elections to be decided by voters, not courts."

The Constitution empowers the electoral college to select the President, but the process for counting electors' votes remains in the hands of Congress. In this episode, Constitutional Law Professor Edward Foley explains the origins of the electoral college, how and why the 12th Amendment changed the process for electing Presidents, and the concerns that led Congress to codify the procedure for counting electors' votes in 1887. Edward also offers some specific ways that updating the Electoral Count Act of 1887 might help us avoid some of the potential problems that might arise in upcoming elections.   Edward Foley holds the Ebersold Chair in Constitutional Law at The Ohio State University, where he also directs its election law program. He is a regular contributor to The Washington Post and the author of multiple books, including Ballot Battles: The History of Disputed Elections in the United States (Oxford University Press, 2016) and Presidential Elections and Majority Rule (Oxford University Press, 2020). You can follow him on twitter at @NedFoley.   This is a rebroadcast of RTN #224 which originally aired on February 21, 2022. This version has been updated and abridged by Ben Sawyer. The original episode was edited by Gary Fletcher.

Hosts: Leah Murray and Adam Gardiner Today, Lieutenant Governor Deidre Henderson spoke about the need to fight misinformation and emphasize one big note: our elections are secure. We discuss some of the recent changes to make our elections even more secure, including the Electoral Count Act of 2022. KSL at Night hosts Leah Murray and Adam Gardiner go in-depth on how our elections continue to remain secure.

Hosts: Leah Murray and Adam Gardiner The federal government’s response to Hurricane HeleneThe federal government’s response to Hurricane Helene’s destruction has been compared to the government’s response to Hurricane Katrina 20 years ago. At that time, Democrats attacked President Bush for taking too long to respond; this time, Republicans are saying the same thing about President Biden. And to add to it all, FEMA says it doesn’t have money to sustain disaster recovery through the rest of hurricane season. The KSL at Night hosts dig into it all. The state of Utah’s economy and its futureUtah’s economy is strong, and it’s forecasted to stay strong. That is, except for home prices. New data from the Utah Economic Council and the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute shows where the state’s economy sits now and looks at where it’ll go into 2025. We dig into the data and how the economy will affect how people vote in November. In-depth look at the candidates running in the US Senate race A new Deseret News article gives an in-depth look at two candidates running to become Utah’s next senator: John Curtis and Caroline Gleich. Interestingly enough, both candidates conducted their interviews while hiking around Utah. We discuss the topics the candidates talked about on their hikes. We also talk about how hiking – getting out in nature – could actually help our nation’s politicians. How are leaders of the US House doing this election cycle?Control of the United States House of Representatives appears to be in “toss-up” territory. With just over one month until Election Day, we’re getting close to the finish line. We dial in on the leaders of both parties in the House: Speaker of the House Mike Johnson and Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries. Listen in for updates on House leadership. What has happened to make sure our elections stay secure?Today, Lieutenant Governor Deidre Henderson spoke about the need to fight misinformation and emphasize one big note: our elections are secure. We discuss some of the recent changes to make our elections even more secure, including the Electoral Count Act of 2022. KSL at Night hosts Leah Murray and Adam Gardiner go in-depth on how our elections continue to remain secure. How to: Effective communication, with and without the electionAhead of the general election, the University of Utah is offering community education courses to help people navigate and cope with the election. One of the classes being offered is “A Change in Dialogue: Effective Communication.” Isabelle Solvang, Director of Lifelong Learning at the University of Utah gives us a preview of the class, including a few tips on how you can communicate more effectively. Previewing a KSL NewsRadio special: DIY Background ChecksDating in the 2020s isn’t like dating in the 1980s – technology has made things both better and worse. The increase in dating apps can make it easier to meet new people… and date perfect strangers. This weekend, KSL NewsRadio will air a special called “DIY Background Checks: Your checklist to safer dating.” Dave & Dujanovic host Debbie Dujanovic hosts this special, and joins KSL at Night to give us a preview. Crumbl trouble “down under”Utah-based cookie company Crumbl has headed “down under.” Well, in name only. Some major fans of the cookies took those iconic pink boxes down to Australia and sold them in Sydney, without permission from the brand. We finish the show discussing fun ways companies can take advantage of organic brand awareness.

This week on Better for America with host Matt Kane, Dr. John Eastman, attorney and constitutional law scholar, discusses the 2020 election, allegations of voter fraud, and the constitutional role of the vice president during the certification process. Eastman addresses the illegality of changes to election laws in key swing states, the misrepresentation of his legal advice regarding January 6th, and why he believes the reforms to the Electoral Count Act vindicate his position. He also shares concerns about the integrity of upcoming elections and the importance of ensuring free and fair electoral processes in a republic."

In this all-new episode, Renato Mariotti, a former federal prosecutor, and Asha Rangappa, a national security law professor, dissect the recent dismissal of three felony charges against Trump and his co-defendants in Georgia, two of which directly implicated the former president.  Why does any of this matter in the grand scheme of things? Well, it's complicated. Subscribe to our Patreon here, where paid members will get access to exclusive portions of this show. patreon.com/reallyamericanmedia Asha and Renato delve into the complexities of the Georgia case, which contains a sprawling indictment against Donald Trump and other defendants that still has 32-counts remaining, including the wide-ranging racketeering charge. You'll also hear their analysis on that judge's ruling on state versus federal supremacy in perjury cases which resulted in last week's dismissals and you'll get an overall update on the status of District Attorney Fani Willis' case.  Our hosts also discuss the various legal challenges and rulings from the Georgia case, including several previously quashed charges over issues related to specificity and perjury. Burrowing into the weeds, we'll cover the unique challenges of determining jurisdiction and reach in state versus federal law in these groundbreaking cases. And you'll hear an expert examination of how the Constitution's Supremacy Clause and the Electoral Count Act play into it all.  Asha and Renato also explore how these recent developments will impact those who pleaded guilty to Georgia charges that have since been quashed. Specifically, they ponder over convicted Trump lawyer Kenneth Cheeseborough's plea deal and what the nullified charges might mean for him.   They'll also explain why the Fulton County's Election Board's potential growing influence on national elections is so significant, and give you the latest on the Democratic Party's major lawsuit filed against the Board. For more highly entertaining detailed legal insights and expert analysis, be sure to tune in next week for a very special episode. Stay informed, stay engaged, and be part of the conversation about the future of American justice, right here on It's Complicated. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The more JD Vance talks, the clearer it becomes that he's one of history's worst VP candidates. Not only does he mock, and alienate almost every conceivable voter group and demographic, but he just announced (in substance) that he would have helped Trump steal the 2020 election by supporting the fake elector scheme. Of course, the fake electors are being prosecuted in states around the country, as are the architects of the fake elector conspiracy. Undeterred, Vance seems to indicate that he would happily join those being prosecuted as one of their fellow co-defendants by joining the conspiracy to defraud the US, the conspiracy against voting rights, and by violating the Electoral Count Act. Not exactly the stuff of someone seeking to be Vice President of the United States.If you're interested in supporting our all-volunteer efforts, you can become a Team Justice patron at: / glennkirschner If you'd like to support us and buy Team Justice and Justice Matters merchandise visit:https://shop.spreadshirt.com/glennkir...Check out Glenn's website at https://glennkirschner.com/Follow Glenn on:Threads: https://www.threads.net/glennkirschner2Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/glennkirschner2Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/glennkirschner2Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glennkirsch...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The more JD Vance talks, the clearer it becomes that he's one of history's worst VP candidates. Not only does he mock, and alienate almost every conceivable voter group and demographic, but he just announced (in substance) that he would have helped Trump steal the 2020 election by supporting the fake elector scheme. Of course, the fake electors are being prosecuted in states around the country, as are the architects of the fake elector conspiracy. Undeterred, Vance seems to indicate that he would happily join those being prosecuted as one of their fellow co-defendants by joining the conspiracy to defraud the US, the conspiracy against voting rights, and by violating the Electoral Count Act. Not exactly the stuff of someone seeking to be Vice President of the United States.If you're interested in supporting our all-volunteer efforts, you can become a Team Justice patron at: / glennkirschner If you'd like to support us and buy Team Justice and Justice Matters merchandise visit:https://shop.spreadshirt.com/glennkir...Check out Glenn's website at https://glennkirschner.com/Follow Glenn on:Threads: https://www.threads.net/glennkirschner2Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/glennkirschner2Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/glennkirschner2Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glennkirsch...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Wednesday, March 16th, 2022In the Hot Notes: a judge orders Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio detained pending trial; the Senate passes a bill to stay on Daylight Saving Time by unanimous consent; a new document emerges about the plan to attack the Capitol that was mentioned in the Tarrio indictment; a second 1/6 Mike Pence script change is revealed through committee testimony; and a Dem Super PAC is filing a complaint with the FEC alleging Trump has violated federal campaign finance law by spending political funds on a 2024 run without formally declaring himself a candidate; plus Allison and Dana deliver your Good News.Follow our guest on Twitter:Glenn Kirschnerhttps://twitter.com/glennkirschner2Follow AG and Dana on Twitter:Dr. Allison Gillhttps://twitter.com/allisongillhttps://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrotehttps://twitter.com/dailybeanspodDana Goldberghttps://twitter.com/DGComedyHave some good news, a confession, a correction, or a case for Beans Court?https://www.dailybeanspod.com/confessional/  Live Show Ticket Links:Chicago, IL https://tinyurl.com/Beans-ChiPhiladelphia, PA https://tinyurl.com/Beans-PhillyNew York, NY https://tinyurl.com/Beans-NYCBoston, MA https://tinyurl.com/Beans-BosPortland, ORhttps://tinyurl.com/Beans-PDXSeattle, WAhttps://tinyurl.com/Beans-SEA Listener Survey:http://survey.podtrac.com/start-survey.aspx?pubid=BffJOlI7qQcF&ver=shortFollow the Podcast on Apple:The Daily Beans on Apple PodcastsWant to support the show and get it ad-free and early?Supercasthttps://dailybeans.supercast.com/OrPatreon https://patreon.com/thedailybeansOr subscribe on Apple Podcasts with our affiliate linkThe Daily Beans on Apple Podcasts

On this special "Connect the Dots" episode, co-hosts Peter Shane and Dale Russakoff discuss how Season 2 episodes on "Disqualifying an Insurrectionist President," "The Electoral Count Act and the Rule of Law," and "The Electoral College" affected their reactions to the Supreme Court argument on the decision of the Colorado Supreme Court to exclude Donald Trump from a primary ballot. All Democracy's Chief Executive Behind the Vote episodes. Spotify iTunes

The Constitution empowers the electoral college to select the President, but the process for counting electors' votes remains in the hands of Congress. In this episode, Constitutional Law Professor Edward Foley explains the origins of the electoral college, how and why the 12th Amendment changed the process for electing Presidents, and the concerns that led Congress to codify the procedure for counting electors' votes in 1887. Edward also offers some specific ways that updating the Electoral Count Act of 1887 might help us avoid some of the potential problems that might arise in upcoming elections. Edward Foley holds the Ebersold Chair in Constitutional Law at The Ohio State University, where he also directs its election law program. He is a regular contributor to The Washington Post and the author of multiple books, including Ballot Battles: The History of Disputed Elections in the United States (Oxford University Press, 2016) and Presidential Elections and Majority Rule (Oxford University Press, 2020). You can follow him on twitter at @NedFoley. This is a rebroadcast of episode 224, which originally aired on February 22, 2022. We think this is a perfect episode to set up our multi-episode series on contested presidential elections, which kicks off on February 19 (aka Presidents' Day)! Each episode of the series focuses on the years that third party candidates, tense inter-party rivalries and other campaign surprises, both reflected and shaped the country in that year and for generations to come. Bob and I have an all-star lineup of guests, and we're kicking off with Lindsay Chervinsky on the 1824 election and John Quincy Adams' Corrupt Bargain! This is a rebroadcast of RTN #224, which originally aired on February 22, 2022. The original episode was edited by Gary Fletcher. This rebroadcast was edited by Ben Sawyer. 

The Breakdown is live w/ guest Matthew SeligmanOn tonight's episode of The Breakdown, hosts Tara Setmayer and Rick Wilson welcome Lawyer and legal scholar Matthew A. Seligman to discuss the Electoral Count Act, January 6th, and the 2024 Presidential election. You don't want to miss this. Watch now, share on social media, and follow The Lincoln Project below. Join the fight at LincolnProject.us! FOLLOW Matthew SeligmanTWITTER: @Matt_SeligmanFOLLOW LINCOLN PROJECTTWITTER: https://bit.ly/3zwZFva INSTAGRAM: https://bit.ly/31yyrHR FACEBOOK: https://bit.ly/3zCBHhT PODCAST: https://apple.co/3G7zr4L

This special super-sized episode explores, first, the process of certifying a new president-elect on the sixth day of January as that process is supposed to unfold and, second, the implications of prosecuting a former president for allegedly conspiring to disrupt that process. In the first part, Peter gets a briefing on the Electoral Count Act and its reform from Protect Democracy counsel, Genevieve Nadeau. He and Dale then explore decision making around the Trump indictment with former U.S. Attorney General and current Belmont University law school dean Alberto Gonzalez and former career prosecutor and Justice Department official Mary McCord, now Executive Director of the Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection at the Georgetown University Law Center.

Former Vice President Mike Pence announced that he's suspending his bid for the presidency, but vows to keep working to help "principled Republicans" get elected. At a campaign stop, Donald Trump mentioned that Pence dropped out, and laughed when someone in the crowd yelled, "Traitor!" Trump then said that Pence "could have done what he could have done," an obvious reference to Trump's continued lie that Pence should have violated the law - the Electoral Count Act - and corruptly declared Trump the winner of the 2020 presidential election. Glenn explains that Pence will have the last laugh (figuratively speaking) when he is called as a prosecution witness to testify against Trump at his DC trial, about Trump's illegal pressure campaign attempting to get Pence to go along with his criminal scheme. Then, New York Judge Arthur Engoron ruled that Ivanka Trump must testify in the New York fraud trial against her father and her brothers Don Jr. and Eric. So now, Ivanka, Don Jr., Eric, and Donald Trump himself are all expected to testify. Glenn says this is perilous terrain to the Trump witnesses in light of the fact that Judge Engoron has already found that Trump and others in the Trump organization engaged in massive, systemic, years-long business fraud. Now, the Trump's will have to testify about those very business practices.For our Team Justice and Justice Matters merchandise visit:https://shop.spreadshirt.com/glennkir...Please consider becoming a #TeamJustice patron at: https://www.patreon.com/glennkirschnerCheck out Glenn's website at glennkirschner.comFollow Glenn on:Threads: https://www.threads.net/glennkirschner2Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/glennkirschner2Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/glennkirschner2Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glennkirsch...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Former Vice President Mike Pence announced that he's suspending his bid for the presidency, but vows to keep working to help "principled Republicans" get elected. At a campaign stop, Donald Trump mentioned that Pence dropped out, and laughed when someone in the crowd yelled, "Traitor!" Trump then said that Pence "could have done what he could have done," an obvious reference to Trump's continued lie that Pence should have violated the law - the Electoral Count Act - and corruptly declared Trump the winner of the 2020 presidential election. Glenn explains that Pence will have the last laugh (figuratively speaking) when he is called as a prosecution witness to testify against Trump at his DC trial, about Trump's illegal pressure campaign attempting to get Pence to go along with his criminal scheme. Then, New York Judge Arthur Engoron ruled that Ivanka Trump must testify in the New York fraud trial against her father and her brothers Don Jr. and Eric. So now, Ivanka, Don Jr., Eric, and Donald Trump himself are all expected to testify. Glenn says this is perilous terrain to the Trump witnesses in light of the fact that Judge Engoron has already found that Trump and others in the Trump organization engaged in massive, systemic, years-long business fraud. Now, the Trump's will have to testify about those very business practices.For our Team Justice and Justice Matters merchandise visit:https://shop.spreadshirt.com/glennkir...Please consider becoming a #TeamJustice patron at: https://www.patreon.com/glennkirschnerCheck out Glenn's website at glennkirschner.comFollow Glenn on:Threads: https://www.threads.net/glennkirschner2Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/glennkirschner2Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/glennkirschner2Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/glennkirsch...See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On this day in legal history, October 19, 1765, the Stamp Act Congress convened in New York City, adopting resolutions that played a crucial role in shaping American constitutional theory and paving the way for the American Revolution. The Congress, comprised of delegates from nine American colonies, was formed as a united response to the Stamp Act of 1765. The act had imposed "internal" taxes on a wide range of legal and commercial documents, as well as other printed materials. Ostensibly, the tax aimed to cover the expenses for British troops stationed in the American colonies following the French and Indian War. However, the colonists argued that not only had they already paid their share of war expenses, but the tax also seemed more like a form of British patronage for surplus military officers.The Stamp Act ignited widespread animosity among the colonists, who saw it as a violation of their rights as Englishmen. The overarching sentiment was encapsulated in the slogan "No taxation without representation," asserting that only the colonial legislatures could grant consent to taxation. The Stamp Act Congress was the first significant joint colonial action in response to British measures, and its resolutions petitioned both Parliament and the King.Debate over representation also flared up in the British Parliament. One argument claimed that the American colonists were "virtually represented" just like the majority of Britons who didn't own property and couldn't vote. However, this notion was sharply refuted by Daniel Dulany, a Maryland attorney, who contended that the connection between Americans and English electors was too weak to constitute proper representation.Local protest groups, often led by the Sons of Liberty, established Committees of Correspondence, thereby creating a loose coalition that extended from New England to Maryland. Widespread demonstrations, sometimes involving the hanging of effigies, successfully pressured all stamp tax distributors into resigning, rendering the tax uncollectible.While opposition to the Stamp Act was strong in the colonies, it also faced significant resistance in Britain. British merchants, suffering due to American boycotts, lobbied for its repeal, which occurred on March 18, 1766. Although repealed, the British Parliament simultaneously passed the Declaratory Act, reasserting its right to legislate for the colonies "in all cases whatsoever." This continued a chain of events that further strained the colonial relationship with Britain, contributing to the 27 grievances stated in the U.S. Declaration of Independence and eventually leading to the American Revolution in 1775.Today, the resolutions of the Stamp Act Congress remain an enduring testament to the early American commitment to principles of self-governance and constitutional integrity, serving as a prelude to the foundational documents that would follow.The Major League Baseball Players Association (MLBPA) has filed an amicus brief with the U.S. Supreme Court, supporting an effort to end Major League Baseball's (MLB) antitrust exemption. This move comes in support of a petition from minor league teams, including the Tri-City ValleyCats of upstate New York, who were removed from the minor leagues by MLB. The MLBPA is advocating for the Supreme Court to overturn its previous rulings that have maintained the exemption. The exemption itself dates back to a 1922 Supreme Court decision, which held that baseball did not fall under the 1890 Sherman Act and was therefore exempt from antitrust laws. In its brief, the MLBPA argues that the exemption negatively affects not only players but also fans, cities, states, and other businesses. The union has consistently maintained that the exemption should be eliminated. I have written on this topic somewhat extensively, and a link to my Baseball Prospectus primer on the issue follows. Baseball Players Union Supports End to MLB Antitrust ExemptionBaseball's Antitrust Exemption: A Brief PrimerThe White House is reviewing a State Department rule aimed at establishing a domestic visa renewal pilot program for certain H-1B specialty occupation workers. Currently, these workers are required to travel abroad to renew their visas, leading to delays and challenges, particularly due to pandemic-related bottlenecks at consular offices. The rule has been sent to the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA) for review, which is the final step before new regulations are made public. Domestic visa renewals were halted nearly two decades ago because the State Department said it couldn't meet post-9/11 biometric data collection requirements. Immigration lawyers and employer groups have been advocating for the reinstatement of domestic renewals, citing the prolonged wait times and logistical issues that have affected workers and employers alike.Stateside H-1B Visa Renewal Pilot Rule Under White House ReviewU.S. Bankruptcy Judge David Jones, known for overseeing more major Chapter 11 cases than any other U.S. judge, has abruptly resigned, leading to the reassignment of about 3,500 bankruptcy cases. Jones' resignation comes days after a federal appeals court initiated an ethics investigation into his failure to disclose a long-term romantic relationship with an attorney whose firm had numerous cases before his court. His departure is a significant blow to the Houston bankruptcy court, which is a top venue for large Chapter 11 filings in the U.S. Jones had managed high-profile bankruptcies like JC Penney and Nieman Marcus and had overseen 17% of cases with more than $1 billion in liabilities since 2020.Judges Marvin Isgur and Christopher Lopez, who are among the busiest bankruptcy judges in the U.S., will divide Jones' large-company case load between them. They will also handle all new large Chapter 11 cases filed in Houston. The reassignment is considered a massive workload for already busy judges and could create chaos, especially since Jones had more than 1,100 commercial cases on his docket.Jones' undisclosed relationship could also raise concerns in cases where rulings were made but not decided or where participants might object to past decisions. The relationship was with bankruptcy attorney Elizabeth Freeman, a partner at a law firm that had many debtors in Jones' court. The firm, Jackson Walker, has said it consulted with outside ethics experts and instructed Freeman not to work on any cases before Jones.The situation has also prompted scrutiny of Houston's practice of directing all "complex" Chapter 11 cases to just two judges, a practice some say invites "forum shopping" and undermines public confidence in the U.S. bankruptcy system. However, Chief U.S. Judge Randy Crane defended the practice, saying it allows for the efficient handling of difficult cases. Isgur, described as a "very bright individual" by Crane, is expected to be a good replacement for Jones, and Crane anticipates no long-term effects on the venue's popularity for large bankruptcies. Editorial note here, if you're talking about a venue's “popularity” for bankruptcies, the forum shopping ship has already sailed. Bankruptcy judge's sudden resignation causes 3,500 cases to be reassigned | ReutersJohn Eastman, an attorney associated with former President Donald Trump, testified in a California State Bar Court trial concerning his efforts to convince Vice President Mike Pence to reject or delay the counting of electoral votes. Eastman is facing the possibility of disbarment, charged with 11 counts including violating ethics rules and state law. He stated that had he known Pence had already decided not to follow his advice, he would not have pursued meetings and discussions on the issue. Gregory F. Jacob, Pence's counsel, previously testified that Eastman's theories lacked legal or historical basis.Eastman claimed he wasn't aware that Pence had already rejected his arguments until Jacob's testimony. Defense witnesses in the trial have tried to establish that Eastman believed there were election irregularities that could have affected the outcome of the 2020 presidential race, a claim that has been widely discredited. Eastman continues to dispute Jacob's characterization of their discussions, and insists that he was offering constitutional recommendations.Eastman, along with some scholars, argues that the Electoral Count Act is unconstitutional and that the Vice President, as the president of the Senate, should have an active role in counting electoral votes. No court has yet ruled on the constitutionality of the Electoral Count Act. The judge, Yvette Roland, has 90 days to issue a recommendation after the close of oral arguments, which can be appealed. The final decision on Eastman's discipline, including potential disbarment, will be made by the California Supreme Court. The trial is set to continue at least through October 20, with additional trial dates likely.Eastman Explains Why He Pressed Pence on Electoral Vote Counting Get full access to Minimum Competence - Daily Legal News Podcast at www.minimumcomp.com/subscribe

After a rare 2 week break on leave, we return to the front in order to continue our assault on the Mainstream. As we predicted Africa is popping off and we believe the Geopoltics game is afoot. We cover everthing from RFK, the Trump Indictment, to Jesus' sexuality. Nothing is off limits in this hard hitting return of your Millennial Media Offensive. While John was away, Dan came out to play! Linked below is the Lost Episode of MMO, where Dan accepted phone calls from many of the Offensives fiercest warriors. If you're brave and not easily offended, you can download it here: https://cloud.mmo.show/s/rxRXpCJe8MEbKX4 The NATO/BRICS MAP as mentioned in the episode. PLEASE CONSIDER DONATING ON PAYPAL! WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT TO KEEP GOING Episode 83's artwork was made by John. Please send your artwork to dan@mmo.show & john@mmo.show Huge Thanks to our Fiat Fun Coupon gifting Producers: Berlin! Sir Paulie Bravo Sharky Shark Ethan Crawley Jeremy Cavenaugh These fine folks found our donation link!We are also on Cashapp, $mmoshow, and Venmo @mmoshow.The Dirty Jersey Whore strikes a again with his explosive art Victory! Can you beat him? Please send your art to dan@mmo.show & john@mmo.show. Absurd Observations MrRobot boolysteed Ryle Davis Dame TrailChicken (Bock Bock Baby) BadCareerAdviceChad Petar Clip_Custodian eselsea ditchingdollars chaosconverter Dale Jr. JonMcPain Ericpp Dirty Jersey Whore billybon3s Boo-bury Jasper89 MaryKateUltra Wiirdo Mr. H Clip Custodian Phifer Cbrooklyn112 This Fed Free group sent in boosts, which are little bits of bitcoin donation, which allows for comments as well. These are read live on the show! For more information on boostagrams, Check out this post.Prove you're not a fed by donating to mmo.show/donate!Still listening on Apple Podcasts or Spotify? Gross. Get yourself a better and more masculine podcast app at NewPodcastApps.comProve you're not a fed by donating to mmo.show/donate!   TITLES             Blushing for BRICS             Death Scientists             The Nephew             Shotgun of Law   Ukraine arrests woman in alleged foiled Russian assassination plot against Zelenskyy | Fox News   Fannie Willis speaks on Fulton County Trump Indictment   RFK on Tucker   Warhawk Foundations   Project for A New American Century – Statement of Principles   Project for A New American Century – Rebuilding America’s Defenses   Alternate Electors History             1796: EC meets to cast two votes for President. 2nd place won VP Tie is resolved in HOR w/ each state having 1 vote John Adams (Fed) won president w/ running mate Thomas Picknie To avoid tie, electors withheld votes for Picknie leading to Thomas Jefferson (Dem Rep) being elected vice president             1800: Jefferson and Aaron Burr (Dem Rep) tied, took 6 days and 36 ballots before tie was resolved               12th amendment made electors cast Pres and VP ballots               1876: FL, OR, LA, SC sent two slates of electors to be counted Congress appointed 15 people from Senate, House, and Supreme Court to decide which votes to count             1887: Congress passed Electoral Count Act               2022: Congress amended the Electoral Count Act Congress amended the Electoral Count Act OTO!

GET THE TRANSCRIPT AT HTTP://PETERNAVARRO.SUBSTACK.COM To understand history is to understand just how outrageous the latest indictment of Donald Trump is.  Biden's uber-partisan and ultra-weaponized DOJ  asserts Trump committed fraud for using the Electoral Count Act of 1887 to object to a stolen 2020 election.  In fact, the Act was created EXACTLY for such purpose. In the 1886 presidential election, Democrat Sam Tilden won the popular vote against Republican Rutherford Hayes.  However, Tilden was one shy of the 185 electoral votes needed to beat Hayes even as evidence surfaced of fraud and intimidation of Republican voters in several key battleground states.   Sound familiar? LISTEN NOW FOR THE REST OF THE STORY -- AND PLEASE WRITE A REVIEW!

Mike Davis says President Trump was getting ready to file a civil lawsuit against Hillary Clinton in Florida where declassified Crossfire Hurricane records would have come out in discovery but what did we get? An unprecedented and unlawful FBI raid on a former President for records he's allowed to have. This is all lawfare because the Left is afraid they can't defeat Trump in the election. They had to get back Trump's damning Crossfire Hurricane records that blow the lid on the fact that Hillary, Obama, Biden, the FBI and the CIA made up the Russia Collusion hoax to put Hillary in the White House. The Left's DOJ didn't do the review Trump ordered upon leaving office. Instead they covered up for Biden and got back the damning evidence in the Mar-a-Lago Raid. Davis says The Presidential Records Act makes then Trump's personal records and the idea Trump committed espionage for having his records at Mar-a-Lago is absurd. Now Jack Smith is trying to go after Trump for J6. It's not illegal for Trump to object to Presidential elections. It's allowed by the Electoral Count Act of 1887. There's a First Amendment right to object, a statutory right to object.GUEST: MIKE DAVIS, ARTICLE III PROJECT A3PSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Special Counsel Jack Smith and U.S. Attorney Merrick Garland make statements announcing the indictment against Donald Trump. Trump case is assigned to Judge Tanya S. Chutkan and we learn more about her as MSNBC celebrates.Trump's defense lawyers and Rudy Giuliani respond to the January 6th Indictment, defending Trump's First Amendments rights in the case. Trump's campaign issues a statement and we review.Why does Mike Pence continue to be dishonest about his power as the Vice President in 2020, claiming that he did not have the power to reject the votes? The law clearly contemplated that possibility and Congress amended the Electoral Count Act to preclude that possibility in the future.Hunter's Lawyers comply with Judge Noreika's order to publish Hunter's diversion agreement and plea memorandum. The U.S. Government offered Hunter broad immunity for a whole a slew of crimes and tucked the provision deep in the diversion agreement.Former Biden Business partner Devon Archers sits down with Tucker Carlson and explains his connections to the Biden Crime Family. Tucker reviews a very interesting letter from President Biden to Devon Archer that seems to implicate the former Vice President.

Heartland POD on Twitter - @TheHeartlandPOD Co-HostsAdam Sommer @Adam_Sommer85  (Twitter) @adam_sommer85 (Post)Rachel Parker @msraitchetp   (Post) Sean Diller @SeanDillerCO   (Twitter and Post)https://heartlandpod.com/JOIN PATREON FOR MORE - AND JOIN OUR SOCIAL NETWORK!“Change The Conversation”True or falseVoting Rights Are Trending In The Right DirectionProPublica Article on point: https://www.propublica.org/article/scotus-voting-rights-act-alabama-redistricting-allen-milliganDemocracy DocketArkansas: https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/black-voters-appeal-arkansas-congressional-map-challenge-to-u-s-supreme-court/Louisiana: https://www.democracydocket.com/opinion/louisiana-gets-a-shot-at-fair-maps-after-supreme-court-ruling-in-allen-v-milligan/Guardian Piece: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/18/alabama-supreme-court-allen-milligan?CMP=Share_iOSApp_OtherRedistricting article POLITICO: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/16/dems-redistricting-regain-house-majority-00101997Yeah, NO GOP continues to put extremism over reason with censure of Sen. Thom Tillis: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/12/tom-tillis-censure-gun-control-support-lgbtq-north-carolina?CMP=Share_iOSApp_OtherBig one The No Labels and Lincoln Project - and the impact on 2024Lots of fear from folks about 2024 and potential to repeat 2020, and good time to remind folks about the Electoral Count Act: https://protectdemocracy.org/work/electoral-count-act/TLP new “RATS” ad: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/618423-lincoln-project-ad-looks-to-spook-donald-trump-says-rats-are-all-around-him/Mother Jones on No Labels: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/06/no-labels-is-helping-a-firm-that-raises-money-for-right-wing-extremists-anedot/No Labels Thread from post: https://post.news/@/omaproud/2RFohELVYXR1SOD2yazMO0EAao0 

Heartland POD on Twitter - @TheHeartlandPOD Co-HostsAdam Sommer @Adam_Sommer85  (Twitter) @adam_sommer85 (Post)Rachel Parker @msraitchetp   (Post) Sean Diller @SeanDillerCO   (Twitter and Post)https://heartlandpod.com/JOIN PATREON FOR MORE - AND JOIN OUR SOCIAL NETWORK!“Change The Conversation”True or falseVoting Rights Are Trending In The Right DirectionProPublica Article on point: https://www.propublica.org/article/scotus-voting-rights-act-alabama-redistricting-allen-milliganDemocracy DocketArkansas: https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/black-voters-appeal-arkansas-congressional-map-challenge-to-u-s-supreme-court/Louisiana: https://www.democracydocket.com/opinion/louisiana-gets-a-shot-at-fair-maps-after-supreme-court-ruling-in-allen-v-milligan/Guardian Piece: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/18/alabama-supreme-court-allen-milligan?CMP=Share_iOSApp_OtherRedistricting article POLITICO: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/16/dems-redistricting-regain-house-majority-00101997Yeah, NO GOP continues to put extremism over reason with censure of Sen. Thom Tillis: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/12/tom-tillis-censure-gun-control-support-lgbtq-north-carolina?CMP=Share_iOSApp_OtherBig one The No Labels and Lincoln Project - and the impact on 2024Lots of fear from folks about 2024 and potential to repeat 2020, and good time to remind folks about the Electoral Count Act: https://protectdemocracy.org/work/electoral-count-act/TLP new “RATS” ad: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/618423-lincoln-project-ad-looks-to-spook-donald-trump-says-rats-are-all-around-him/Mother Jones on No Labels: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/06/no-labels-is-helping-a-firm-that-raises-money-for-right-wing-extremists-anedot/No Labels Thread from post: https://post.news/@/omaproud/2RFohELVYXR1SOD2yazMO0EAao0 

This section covers the first six parts of Chapter 5.1: The Intellectual Framework for the Theory That the Vice President Could Change the Outcome of the Election at the Joint Session Emerged From Discussions Among the Lawyers Working With the Trump Campaign After the 2020 Election Kenneth Chesebro Articulated a “President of the Senate” Strategy in Early December, When the Trump Campaign Was Convening “Alternate” Electors in Key States President Trump Lost On December 23, John Eastman Drafted the First of His Two “January 6th Scenario” Memos, Articulating the Argument That Under the Constitution the Vice President Is the “Ultimate Arbiter” Eastman Changed His Evaluation of the 12th Amendment, and the Role of the Vice President, After President Trump Lost the Election Eastman's “January 6 Scenario” Clearly Required the Vice President To Violate the Electoral Count Act, the Federal Law Governing the Certification of Presidential Elections Eastman's Theory Was—in the Words of President Trump's Senior White House and Campaign Officials—“Insane,” “Crazy,” “Nutty” and It Would Never Practically Work These episodes are created based on the value-for-value model - if you find value in the effort to provide an open and available reading of this document, please support the podcast at governmentunfiltered.com or patreon.com/timberlanemedia. If you'd like to provide an anonymous donation, you can go to glow.fm/insider. Follow the show on Twitter @GovUnfiltered or on Facebook at facebook.com/governmentunfiltered.

As January 6th approached, President Trump turned on his own Vice President. This chapter describes the pressure placed on Vice President Mike Pence in the days leading up to January 6th. It also provides evidence that President Trump knew what he was doing was in violation of the Electoral Count Act and the U.S. Constitution. Finally, sending his supporters to march to the U.S. Capitol was one last attempt to pressure Vice President Pence into taking one of the two options that President Trump and John Eastman believed would either keep Trump in office or delay former Vice President Biden from taking office. These episodes are created based on the value-for-value model - if you find value in the effort to provide an open and available reading of this document, please support the podcast at governmentunfiltered.com or patreon.com/timberlanemedia. If you'd like to provide an anonymous donation, you can go to glow.fm/insider. Follow the show on Twitter @GovUnfiltered or on Facebook at facebook.com/governmentunfiltered.  

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The January 6th Committee investigation is over and four criminal charges against former President Donald Trump have been referred to the Justice Department by the Committee. In this episode, hear a summary of 23 hours of testimony and evidence presented by the Committee which prove that former President Trump went to extraordinary and illegal lengths to remain President, despite losing the 2020 Election. Please Support Congressional Dish – Quick Links Contribute monthly or a lump sum via PayPal Support Congressional Dish via Patreon (donations per episode) Send Zelle payments to: Donation@congressionaldish.com Send Venmo payments to: @Jennifer-Briney Send Cash App payments to: $CongressionalDish or Donation@congressionaldish.com Use your bank's online bill pay function to mail contributions to: 5753 Hwy 85 North, Number 4576, Crestview, FL 32536. Please make checks payable to Congressional Dish Thank you for supporting truly independent media! 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AG Bill Barr Interview “In exclusive AP interview, AG Barr says no evidence of widespread election fraud, undermining Trump.” Mike Balsamo. Dec 11, 2020. “Barr tells AP that Justice Dept. hasn't uncovered widespread voting fraud that could have changed 2020 election outcome.” Dec 1, 2020. The Associated Press. Past Electoral Vote Challenges “Post Misleadingly Equates 2016 Democratic Effort to Trump's 2020 ‘Alternate Electors.'” Joseph A. Gambardello. Jun 29, 2022. FactCheck.org. “Democrats challenge Ohio electoral votes.” Ted Barrett. Jan 6, 2005. CNN. Fake Electors “What you need to know about the fake Trump electors.” Amy Sherman. Jan 28, 2022. PolitiFact. “Exclusive: Federal prosecutors looking at 2020 fake elector certifications, deputy attorney general tells CNN.” Evan Perez and Tierney Sneed. Jan 26, 2022. CNN. “American Oversight Obtains Seven Phony Certificates of Pro-Trump Electors.” Mar 2, 2021. American Oversight. Censure of Cheney & Kinzinger “Read the Republican Censure of Cheney and Kinzinger.” Feb 4 2022. The New York Times. Audio Sources 12/19/22 Business Meeting December 19, 2022 House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol 10/13/22 Business Meeting October 13, 2022 House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol Featured speakers: Kayleigh McEnany, Former White House Press Secretary Molly Michael, Former Executive Assistant to the President Pat Cipollone, Former White House Counsel Clips Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY): Why would Americans assume that our Constitution, and our institutions, and our Republic are invulnerable to another attack? Why would we assume that those institutions will not falter next time? A key lesson of this investigation is this: Our institutions only hold when men and women of good faith make them hold, regardless of the political cost. We have no guarantee that these men and women will be in place next time. Any future president inclined to attempt what Donald Trump did in 2020 has now learned not to install people who could stand in the way. And also please consider this: The rulings of our courts are respected and obeyed, because we as citizens pledged to accept and honor them. Most importantly, our President, who has a constitutional obligation to faithfully execute the laws, swears to accept them. What happens when the President disregards the court's rulings is illegitimate. When he disregards the rule of law, that my fellow citizens, breaks our Republic. January 6 Committee Lawyer: To your knowledge, was the president in that private dining room the whole time that the attack on the Capitol was going on? Or did he ever go to, again only to your knowledge, to the Oval Office, to the White House Situation Room, anywhere else? Kayleigh McEnany: The the best of my recollection, he was always in the dining room. January 6 Committee Lawyer: What did they say, Mr. Meadows or the President, at all during that brief encounter that you were in the dining room? What do you recall? Gen. Keith Kellogg: I think they were really watching the TV. January 6 Committee Lawyer: Do you know whether he was watching TV in the dining room when you talked to him on January sixth? Molly Michael: It's my understanding he was watching television. January 6 Committee Lawyer: When you were in the dining room in these discussions, was the violence of capital visible on the screen on the television? Pat Cipollone: Yes. Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL): A federal appeals court in Pennsylvania wrote, quote, "charges require specific allegations and proof. We have neither here." A federal judge in Wisconsin wrote, quote, "the court has allowed the former President the chance to make his case and he has lost on the merits." Another judge in Michigan, called the claims quote, "nothing but speculation and conjecture that votes for President Trump were either destroyed, discarded or switched to votes for Vice President Biden." A federal judge in Michigan sanctioned nine attorneys, including Sidney Powell, for making frivolous allegations in an election fraud case, describing the case as a historic and profound abuse of the judicial process. Recently, a group of distinguished Republican election lawyers, former judges and elected officials issued a report confirming the findings of the courts. In their report entitled "Lost, Not Stolen," these prominent Republicans analyzed each election challenge and concluded this: Donald Trump and his supporters failed to present evidence of fraud or inaccurate results significant enough to invalidate the results of the 2020 Presidential Election. On December 11, Trump's allies lost a lawsuit in the US Supreme Court that he regarded as his last chance of success in the courts. Alyssa Farah: I remember maybe a week after the election was called, I popped into the Oval just to like, give the President the headlines and see how he was doing and he was looking at the TV and he said, "Can you believe I lost to this effing guy?" Cassidy Hutchinson: Mark raised it with me on the 18th and so following that conversation we were in the motorcade ride driving back to the White House, and I said, like, "Does the President really think that he lost?" And he said, "A lot of times he'll tell me that he lost, but he wants to keep fighting it and he thinks that there might be enough to overturn the election, but, you know, he pretty much has acknowledged that he, that he's lost. 07/12/22 Select Committee Hearing July 12, 2022 House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol Witnesses: Jason Van Tatenhove, Former Oath Keepers Spokesperson Stephen Ayres, January 6th Defendant Clips Rep. Stephanie Murphy (D-FL): According to White House visitor logs obtained by the Committee, members of Congress present at the White House on December 21 included Congressmen Brian Babin (TX), Andy Biggs (AZ), Matt Gaetz (FL), Louie Gohmert (TX), Paul Gosar (AZ), Andy Harris (MD), Jody Hice (R-GA), Jim Jordan (OD), and Scott Perry (PA). Then Congresswoman-elect Marjorie Taylor Greene (GA) was also there. Rep. Stephanie Murphy (D-FL): We've asked witnesses what happened during the December 21 meeting and we've learned that part of the discussion centered on the role of the Vice President during the counting of the electoral votes. These members of Congress were discussing what would later be known as the "Eastman Theory," which was being pushed by Attorney John Eastman. 06/28/2022 Select Committee Hearing June 28, 2022 House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol Witnesses: Cassidy Hutchinson, Former Special Assistant to the President and Aide to the Chief of Staff Clips 9:10 Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY): Today's witness, Ms. Cassidy Hutchinson, is another Republican and another former member of President Trump's White House staff. Certain of us in the House of Representatives recall that Ms. Hutchinson once worked for House Republican whip Steve Scalise, but she is also a familiar face on Capitol Hill because she held a prominent role in the White House Legislative Affairs Office, and later was the principal aide to President Trump's Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows. 10:10 Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY): In her role working for the White House Chief of Staff, Miss Hutchinson handled a vast number of sensitive issues. She worked in the West Wing, several steps down the hall from the Oval Office. Miss Hutchinson spoke daily with members of Congress, with high ranking officials in the administration, with senior White House staff, including Mr. Meadows, with White House Counsel lawyers, and with Mr. Tony Ornato, who served as the White House Deputy Chief of Staff. She also worked on a daily basis with members of the Secret Service who were posted in the White House. In short, Miss Hutchinson was in a position to know a great deal about the happenings in the Trump White House. 24:20 Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY): On January 3, the Capitol Police issued a special event assessment. In that document, the Capitol Police noted that the Proud Boys and other groups planned to be in Washington DC on January 6, and indicated that quote, "unlike previous post election protests, the targets of the pro-Trump supporters are not necessarily the counter protesters, as they were previously, but rather, Congress itself is the target on the Sixth. 27:45 Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY): Of course the world now knows that the people who attacked the Capitol on January 6 had many different types of weapons. When a President speaks, the Secret Service typically requires those attending to pass through metal detectors known as magnetometers, or mags for short. Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY): The Select Committee has learned about reports from outside the magnetometers and has obtained police radio transmissions identifying individuals with firearms, including AR-15s near the Ellipse on the morning of January 6. Let's listen. Police Officer #1: Blue jeans and a blue jean jacket and underneath the blue jacket complaintants both saw the top of an AR 15. Police Officer #2: Any white males brown cowboy boots, they had Glock-style pistols in their waistbands. Police Officer #3: 8736 with the message that subject weapon on his right hip. Police Officer #4: Motor one, make sure PPD knows they have an elevated threat in the tree South side of Constitution Avenue. Look for the "Don't tread on me" flag, American flag facemask cowboy boots, weapon on the right side hip. Police Officer #5: I got three men walking down the street in fatigues and carrying AR-15s. Copy at Fourteenth and Independence. Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY): We're going to show now an exchange of texts between you and Deputy Chief of Staff Ornato, and these text messages were exchanged while you were at the Ellipse. In one text, you write, "but the crowd looks good from this vantage point, as long as we get the shot. He was f---ing furious." But could you tell us, first of all, who it is in the text who was furious? Cassidy Hutchinson: The he in that text that I was referring to was the President. Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY): And why was he furious, Miss Hutchinson? Cassidy Hutchinson: He was furious because he wanted the arena that we had on the Ellipse to be maxed out at capacity for all attendees. The advanced team had relayed to him that the mags were free flowing. Everybody who wanted to come in had already come in, but he still was angry about the extra space and wanted more people to come in. Cassidy Hutchinson: And that's what Tony [Ornato] had been trying to relate to him [President Trump] that morning. You know, it's not the issue that we encountered on the campaign. We have enough space. They don't want to come in right now, they have weapons they don't want confiscated by the Secret Service. They're fine on the Mall, they can see you on the Mall and they want to march straight to the Capitol from the Mall. But when we were in the off stage announced tent, I was part of a conversation -- I was in the, I was in the vicinity of a conversation -- where I overheard the President say something to the effect of you know, "I don't think that they have weapons. They're not here to hurt me take the effing mags away. Let my people in, they can march to the Capitol from here. Let the people in, take the effing mags away." Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY): On December 1, 2020, Attorney General Barr said in an interview that the Department of Justice had now not found evidence of widespread election fraud, sufficient to change the outcome of the election. Ms. Hutchinson, how did the President react to hearing that news? Cassidy Hutchinson: I left the office and went down to the dining room, and I noticed that the door was propped open in the valet was inside the dining room changing the tablecloth off of the dining room table. The valet had articulated that the President was extremely angry at the Attorney General's AP interview and had thrown his lunch against the wall. Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY): Miss Hutchinson, Attorney General Barr described to the Committee the President's angry reaction when he finally met with President Trump. Let's listen. Former Attorney General Bill Barr: And I said, "Look, I I know that you're dissatisfied with me and I'm glad to offer my resignation" and then he pounded the table very hard. Everyone sort of jumped and he said "Accepted." Reporter: Leader McCarthy, Do you condemn this violence? Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA): I completely condemn the violence in the Capitol. What we're currently watching unfold is un-American. I'm disappointed, I'm sad. This is not what our country should look like. This is not who we are. This is not the First Amendment. This has to stop and this has to stop now. Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY): Did White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows ever indicate that he was interested in receiving a Presidential Pardon related to January 6? Cassidy Hutchinson: Mr. Meadows did seek that pardon. Yes, ma'am. Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY): While our committee has seen many witnesses, including many Republicans, testify fully and forthrightly, this has not been true of every witness. And we have received evidence of one particular practice that raises significant concern. Our committee commonly asks witnesses connected to Mr. Trump's administration or campaign whether they'd been contacted by any of their former colleagues, or anyone else who attempted to influence or impact their testimony, without identifying any of the individuals involved. Let me show you a couple of samples of answers we received to this question. First, here's how one witness described phone calls from people interested in that witness's testimony. "What they said to me is, as long as I continue to be a team player, they know I'm on the right team, I'm doing the right thing, I'm protecting who I need to protect, you know, I'll continue to stay in good graces in Trump World. And they have reminded me a couple of times that Trump does read transcripts and just keep that in mind as I proceed through my interviews with the committee." Here's another sample in a different context. This is a call received by one of our witnesses. "A person let me know you have your deposition tomorrow. He wants me to let you know that he's thinking about you. He knows you're loyal, and you're going to do the right thing when you go in for your deposition." I think most Americans know that attempting to influence witnesses to testify untruthfully presents very serious concerns. 06/23/22 Select Committee Hearing June 23, 2022 House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol Witnesses: Jeffrey A. Rosen, Former Acting Attorney General Richard Donoghue, Former Acting Deputy Attorney General Steven Engel, Former Assistant Attorney General for the Office of Legal Counsel Eric Herschmann, Former White House Senior Advisor Clips Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MS): From the time you took over from Attorney General Barr until January 3, how often did President Trump contact you or the Department to push allegations of election fraud? Former Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen: So between December 23 and January 3, the president either called me or met with me virtually every day, with one or two exceptions like Christmas Day Rep. Andy Biggs (R-AZ): Again, I join my colleagues in calling on Attorney General Barr to immediately let us know what he's doing. Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ): We're already working on challenging the certified electors. And what about the court? How pathetic are the courts? Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL): January 6, I'm joining with the fighters in the Congress, and we are going to object to electors from states that didn't run clean elections. Democracy is left undefended if we accept the result of a stolen election without fighting with every bit of vigor we can muster. Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH): The ultimate date of significance is January 6. This is how the process works. The ultimate arbiter here, the ultimate check and balance, is the United States Congress. And when something is done in an unconstitutional fashion, which happened in several of these states, we have a duty to step forward and have this debate and have this vote on the 6th of January. Former Acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue: So both the Acting Attorney General [Rosen] and I tried to explain to the President on this occasion, and on several other occasions that the Justice Department has a very important, very specific, but very limited role in these elections. States run their elections. We are not quality control for the states. We are obviously interested in and have a mission that relates to criminal conduct in relation to federal elections. We also have related civil rights responsibilities. So we do have an important role, but the bottom line was if a state ran their election in such a way that it was defective, that is to the state or Congress to correct. It is not for the Justice Department to step in. And I certainly understood the President, as a layman, not understanding why the Justice Department didn't have at least a civil role to step in and bring suit on behalf of the American people. We tried to explain that to him. The American people do not constitute the client for the United States Justice Department. The one and only client of the United States Justice Department is the United States government. And the United States government does not have standing, as we were repeatedly told by our internal teams. Office of Legal Counsel, led by Steve Engel, as well as the Office of the Solicitor General researched it and gave us thorough clear opinions that we simply did not have standing and we tried to explain that to the President on numerous occasions. Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL): Let's take a look at another one of your notes. You also noted that Mr. Rosen said to Mr. Trump, quote, "DOJ can't and won't snap its fingers and change the outcome of the election." How did the President respond to that, sir? Former Acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue: He responded very quickly and said, essentially, that's not what I'm asking you to do. What I'm just asking you to do is just say it was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the Republican Congressmen. Former Acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue: There were isolated instances of fraud. None of them came close to calling into question the outcome of the election in any individual State. January 6 Committee Lawyer: And was representative Gaetz requesting a pardon? Eric Herschmann: Believe so. The general tone was, we may get prosecuted because we were defensive of, you know, the President's positions on these things. A pardon that he was discussing, requesting, was as broad as you could describe, from the beginning of time up until today, for any and all things. He had mentioned Nixon and I said Nixon's pardon was never nearly that broad. January 6 Committee Lawyer: And are you aware of any members of Congress seeking pardons? Cassidy Hutchinson: I guess Mr. Gaetz and Mr. Brooks, I know, both advocated for, there to be a blanket pardon for members involved in that meeting and a handful of other members that weren't at the December 21 meeting as the preemptive pardons. Mr. Gaetz was personally pushing for a pardon and he was doing so since early December. I'm not sure why. Mr. Gaetz had reached out to me to ask if he could have a meeting with Mr. Meadows about receiving a Presidential pardon. January 6 Committee Lawyer: Did they all contact you? Cassidy Hutchinson: Not all of them, but several of them did. January 6 Committee Lawyer: So you'd be mentioned Mr. Gaetz and Mr. Brooks. Cassidy Hutchinson: Mr. Biggs did. Mr. Jordan talks about congressional pardons but he never asked me for one. It was more for an update on whether the White House is going to pardon members of Congress. Mr. Gohmert asked for one as well. Mr. Perry asked for a pardon too, I'm sorry. January 6 Committee Lawyer: Mr. Perry, did he talk to you directly? Cassidy Hutchinson: Yes, he did. Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL): Mr. Clark was the acting head of the Civil Division and head of Environmental and Natural Resources Division at the Department of Justice. Do either of those divisions have any role whatsoever in investigating election fraud, sir? Former Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen: No. And and to my awareness, Jeff Clark had had no prior involvement of any kind with regard to the work that the department was doing. Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL): Is there a policy that governs who can have contact directly with the White House? Former Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen: Yes. So across many administrations for a long period of time, there's a policy that particularly with regard to criminal investigations restricts at both the White House and the Justice Department and those more sensitive issues to the highest ranks. So for criminal matters, the policy for a long time has been that only the Attorney General and the Deputy Attorney General from the DOJ side can have conversations about criminal matters with the White House, or the Attorney General and the Deputy Attorney General can authorize someone for a specific item with their permission. But the idea is to make sure that the top rung of the Justice Department knows about it, and is in the thing to control it and make sure only appropriate things are done. Steven Engel: The purpose of these these policies is to keep these communications as infrequent, and at the highest levels as possible, just to make sure that people who are less careful about it who don't really understand these implications, such as Mr. Clark, don't run afoul of those contact policies. Former Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen: He acknowledged that shortly before Christmas, he had gone to a meeting in the Oval Office with the President. That, of course, surprised me. And I asked him, How did that happen? And he was defensive, he said it had been unplanned, that he had been talking to someone he referred to as "General Perry," but I believe is Congressman Perry, and that, unbeknownst to him, he was asked to go to a meeting and he didn't know it, but it turned out it was at the Oval -- he found himself at the Oval Office. And he was apologetic for that. And I said, Well, you didn't tell me about it. It wasn't authorized. And you didn't even tell me after the fact. You know, this is not not appropriate. But he was contrite and said it had been inadvertent and it would not happen again and that if anyone asked him to go to such a meeting, he would notify [Former Acting Deputy Attorney General] Rich Donohue and me. Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL): On the same day Acting Attorney General Rosen told Mr. Clark to stop talking to the White House, Representative Perry was urging Chief of Staff Mark Meadows to elevate Clark within the Department of Justice. You can now see on the screen behind me a series of tasks between representative Perry and Mr. Meadows. They show that Representative Perry requested that Mr. Clark be elevated within the department. Representative Perry tells Mr. Meadows on December 26, that quote, "Mark, just checking in as time continues to count down, 11 days to January 6 and 25 days to inauguration. We've got to get going!" Representative Perry followed up and says quote, "Mark, you should call Jeff. I just got off the phone with him and he explained to me why the principal deputy won't work especially with the FBI. They will view it as not having the authority to enforce what needs to be done." Mr. Meadows responds with "I got it. I think I understand. Let me work on the deputy position." Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY): Mr. Donohue on December 28, Mr. Clark emailed you and Mr. Rosen a draft letter that he wanted you to sign and send to Georgia State officials. This letter claims that the US Department of Justice's investigations have quote, "identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple States, including the state of Georgia." The letter also said this: quote, "in light of these developments, the Department recommends that the Georgia General Assembly should convene in special session," end quote, and consider approving a new slate of electors. Steven Engel: The States had chosen their electors, the electors had been certified, they'd cast their votes, they had been sent to Washington DC. Neither Georgia nor any of the other States on December 28, or whenever this was, was in a position to change those votes. Essentially, the election had happened. The only thing that hadn't happened was the formal counting of the votes. Former Acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue: I had to read both the email and the attached letter twice to make sure I really understood what he was proposing because it was so extreme to me, I had a hard time getting my head around it initially. But I read it and I did understand it for what he intended and I had to sit down and sort of compose what I thought was an appropriate response. In my response, I explained a number of reasons this is not the Department's role to suggest or dictate to State legislatures how they should select their electors. But more importantly, this was not based on fact, that this was actually contrary to the facts, as developed by Department investigations over the last several weeks and months. So I responded to that. And for the Department to insert itself into the political process's way, I think would have had grave consequences for the country. It may very well have spiraled us into a Constitutional crisis. And I wanted to make sure that he understood the gravity of the situation because he didn't seem to really appreciate it. Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL): President Trump rushed back early from Mar-a-Lago on December 31, and called an emergency meeting with the Department's leadership. Mr. Donohue, during this meeting, did the President tell you that he would remove you and Mr. Rosen because you weren't declaring there was election fraud? Former Acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue: Toward the end of the meeting, the President, again was getting very agitated. And he said, "People tell me I should just get rid of both of you. I should just remove you and make a change in the leadership, put Jeff Clark and maybe something will finally get done." Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL): Mr. Rosen during a January 2 meeting with Mr. Clark, did you confront him again about his contact with the President? And if so, can you describe that? Former Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen: We had -- it was a contentious meeting where we were chastising him that he was insubordinate, he was out of line, he had not honored his own representations of what he would do. And he raised again, that he thought that letter should go out. And we were not receptive to that. Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL): So in that meeting, did Mr. Clark say he would turn down the President's offer if you reversed your position and sign the letter? Former Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen: Yes. Subsequently, he told me that on the on Sunday the 3rd. He told me that the timeline had moved up, and that the President had offered him the job and that he was accepting it. Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL): White House Call Logs obtained by the Committee show that by 4:19pm, on January 3, the White House had already begun referring to Mr. Clark as the Acting Attorney General. Let's ask about that, what was your reaction to that? Former Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen: Well, you know, on the one hand, I wasn't going to accept being fired by my subordinate. So I wanted to talk to the President directly. Former Acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue: So the four of us knew, but no one else, aside from Jeff Clark of course, knew what was going on until late that Sunday afternoon. We chose to keep a close hold, because we didn't want to create concern or panic in the Justice Department leadership. But at this point, I asked the Acting AG [Rosen], what else can I do to help prepare for this meeting in the Oval Office, and he said, You and Pat [Cipollone] should get the Assistant Attorney Generals on the phone, and it's time to let them know what's going on. Let's find out what they may do if there's a change in leadership, because that will help inform the conversation at the Oval Office. We got most, not all, but most of the AAGs on the phone. We very quickly explained to them what the situation was. [They] essentially said they would leave, they would resign en mass if the President made that change in the department leadership. Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL): DOJ leadership arrived at the White House. Former Acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue: The conversation this point was really about whether the President should remove Jeff Rosen and replace him with Jeff Clark. And everyone in the room, I think, understood that that meant that letter would go out. And at some point, the conversation turned to whether Jeff Clark was even qualified, competent to run the Justice Department, which in my mind, he clearly was not. And it was a heated conversation. I thought it was useful to point out to the President that Jeff Clark simply didn't have the skills, the ability and the experience to run the Department. And so I said, "Mr. President, you're talking about putting a man in that seat who has never tried a criminal case, who's never conducted a criminal investigation, he's telling you that he's going to take charge of the department, 115,000 employees, including the entire FBI, and turn the place on a dime and conduct nationwide criminal investigations that will produce results in a matter of days. It's impossible. It's absurd. It's not going to happen, and it's going to fail. He has never been in front of a trial jury, a grand jury. He's never even been to Chris Wray's office." I said at one point, "if you walked into Chris Wray's office, one, would you know how to get there and, two, if you got there, would he even know who you are? And you really think that the FBI is going to suddenly start following you orders? It's not going to happen. He's not competent." And that's the point at which Mr. Clark tried to defend himself by saying, "Well, I've been involved in very significant civil and environmental litigation. I've argued many appeals and appellate courts and things of that nature." And then I pointed out that, yes, he was an environmental lawyer, and I didn't think that was appropriate background to be running in the United States Justice Department. Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL): Did anybody in there support Mr. Clark? Former Acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue: No one. Along those lines, he [former President Trump] said, "so suppose I do this, suppose I replace him, Jeff Rosen, with him, Jeff Clark, what would you do?" And I said, "Mr. President, I would resign immediately. I'm not working one minute for this guy [Clark], who I just declared was completely incompetent." And so the President immediately turned to to Mr. Engel. Steven Engel: My recollection is that when the President turned to me and said, "Steve, you wouldn't leave, would you?" I said, "Mr. President, I've been with you through four Attorneys General, including two Acting Attorneys General, but I couldn't be part of this." Former Acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue: And I said, and we're not the only ones. No one cares if we resign. If Steve and I go, that's fine, it doesn't matter. But I'm telling you what's going to happen. You're gonna lose your entire Department leadership, every single AAG will walk out on you. Your entire Department of leadership will walk out within hours." And I said, "Mr. President, within 24...48...72 hours, you could have hundreds and hundreds of resignations of the leadership of your entire Justice Department because of your actions. What's that going to say about you?" Former Acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue: And then the other thing that I said was that, you know, look, all anyone is going to sort of think about when they see this...no one is going to read this letter....all anyone is going to think is that you went through two Attorneys General in two weeks until you found the environmental guy to sign this thing. And so the story is not going to be that the Department of Justice has found massive corruption that would have changed results of the election. It's going to be the disaster of Jeff Clark. I think at that point Pat Cipollone said, "Yeah, this is a murder suicide pact, this letter." Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL): Mr. Cipollone, the White House Counsel, told the Committee that Mr. Engels response had a noticeable impact on the President, that this was a turning point in the conversation. Mr. Donohue, towards the end of this meeting, did the President asked you what was going to happen to Mr. Clark? Former Acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue: He did. When we finally got to, I'd say, the last 15 minutes of the meeting, the President's decision was apparent, he announced it. Jeff Clark tried to scrape his way back and asked the President to reconsider. The President double down said "No, I've made my decision. That's it. We're not going to do it." And then he turned to me and said, "so what happens to him now?" Meaning Mr. Clark. He understood that Mr. Clark reported to me. And I didn't initially understand the question. I said, "Mr. President?" and he said, "Are you going to fire him?" And I said, "I don't have the authority to fire him. He's the Senate confirmed Assistant Attorney General." And he said, "Well, who has the authority to fire him?" And I said, "Only you do, sir." And he said, "Well, I'm not going to fire him." I said, "Alright, well, then we should all go back to work." 06/21/22 Select Committee Hearing June 21, 2022 House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol Witnesses: Rusty Bowers, Arizona House Speaker Brad Raffensperger, Georgia Secretary of State Gabriel Sterling, Georgia Secretary of State Chief Operating Officer Wandrea ArShaye, “Shaye” Moss, former Georgia election worker Ronna Romney McDaniel, RNC Chair Justin Clark, former Trump Campaign lawyer Robert Sinners, former Trump campaign staffer Andrew Hitt, Former Wisconsin Republican Party Chair Laura Cox, Former Michigan Republican Party Chair Josh Roselman, Investigative Counsel for the J6 Committee John Eastman, Former Trump Lawyer Mike Shirkey, Majority Leader of the Michigan Senate Angela McCallum, Trump Campaign caller Rudy Giuliani Clips Josh Roselman: My name is Josh Roselman, I'm an Investigative Counsel for the House Select Committee to investigate the January 6 attack on the United States Capitol. Beginning in late November 2020. The President and his lawyers started appearing before state legislators, urging them to give their electoral votes to Trump, even though he lost the popular vote. This was a strategy with both practical and legal elements. The Select Committee has obtained an email from just two days after the election, in which a Trump campaign lawyer named Cleata Mitchell asked another Trump lawyer, John Eastman, to write a memo justifying the idea. Eastman prepared a memo attempting to justify this strategy, which was circulated to the Trump White House, Rudy Giuliani's legal team, and state legislators around the country and he appeared before the Georgia State Legislature to advocate for it publicly. John Eastman: You could also do what the Florida Legislature was prepared to do, which is to adopt a slate of electors yourself. And when you add in the mix of the significant statistical anomalies in sworn affidavits and video evidence of outright election fraud, I don't think it's just your authority to do that, but quite frankly, I think you have a duty to do that to protect the integrity of the election here in Georgia. Josh Roselman: But Republican officials in several states released public statements recognizing that President Trump's proposal was unlawful. For instance, Georgia Governor Brian Kemp called the proposal unconstitutional, while Arizona House Speaker Rusty Bowers wrote that the idea would undermine the rule of law. The pressure campaign to get state legislators to go along with this scheme intensified when President Trump invited delegations from Michigan and Pennsylvania to the White House. January 6 Committee Lawyer: Either you or speaker Chatfield, did you make the point to the President, that you were not going to do anything that violated Michigan law? Mike Shirkey: I believe we did. Whether or not it was those exact words or not, I think the words that I would have more likely used is, "we are going to follow the law." Josh Roselman: Nevertheless, the pressure continued. The next day President Trump tweeted quote, "hopefully the Courts and/or Legislatures will have the COURAGE to do what has to be done to maintain the integrity of our Elections, and the United States of America itself. THE WORLD IS WATCHING!!!!" He posted multiple messages on Facebook, listing the contact information for state officials and urging his supporters to contact them to quote "demand a vote on decertification." These efforts also involves targeted outreach to state legislators from President Trump's lawyers and from Trump himself. Angela McCallum: Hi, my name is Angela McCallum, I'm calling from Trump campaign headquarters in Washington DC. You do have the power to reclaim your authority and send us a slate of Electors that will support President Trump and Vice President Pence. Josh Roselman: Another legislator, Pennsylvania House Speaker Brian Cutler, received daily voicemails from Trump's lawyers in the last week of November. Cutler felt that the outreach was inappropriate and asked his lawyers to tell Rudy Giuliani to stop calling, but Giuliani continued to reach out. Rudy Giuliani: I understand that you don't want to talk to me now. I just want to bring some facts to your attention and talk to you as a fellow Republican. Josh Roselman: These ads were another element in the effort. The Trump campaign spent millions of dollars running ads online and on television. Commercial Announcer: The evidence is overwhelming. Call your governor and legislators demand they inspect the machines and hear the evidence. Fake electors scheme Casey Lucier: My name is Casey Lucier. I'm an Investigative Counsel for the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6 Attack on the United States Capitol. On November 18, a lawyer working with the Trump campaign named Kenneth Chesebro wrote a memo arguing that the Trump campaign should organize its own electors in the swing states that President Trump had lost. The Select Committee received testimony that those close to President Trump began planning to organize fake electors for Trump in states that Biden won in the weeks after the election. At the President's direct request, the RNC assisted the campaign in coordinating this effort. January 6 Committee Lawyer: What did the President say when he called you? Ronna Romney McDaniel: Essentially, he turned the call over to Mr. Eastman, who then proceeded to talk about the importance of the RNC helping the campaign gather these contingent electors in case any of the legal challenges that were ongoing change the result of any dates, I think more just helping them reach out and assemble them. But the My understanding is the campaign did take the lead, and we just were helping them in that in that role. Casey Lucier: As President Trump and his supporters continued to lose lawsuits, some campaign lawyers became convinced that convening electors in states that Trump lost was no longer appropriate. Justin Clark: I just remember I either replied or called somebody saying, unless we have litigation pending this, like in the states, like, I don't think this is appropriate, or no, this isn't the right thing to do. I'm out. Matt Morgan: At that point, I had Josh Findlay email Mr. Chesebro, politely, to say, "This is your task. You are responsible for the Electoral College issues moving forward". And this was my way of taking that responsibility to zero. Casey Lucier: The Committee learned the White House Counsel's Office also felt the plan was potentially illegal. January 6 Committee Lawyer: And so to be clear, did you hear the White House Counsel's office saying that this plan to have alternate electors meet and cast votes for Donald Trump in states that he had lost was not legally sound? Cassidy Hutchinson: Yes, sir. Casey Lucier: The Select Committee interviewed several of the individual fake electors, as well as Trump campaign staff who helped organize the effort. Robert Sinners: We were just, you know, kind of useful idiots or rubes at that point. You know, a strong part of me really feels that it's just kind of as the road continued, and as that was failure, failure, failure that that got formulated as what do we have on the table? Let's just do it. January 6 Committee Lawyer: And now after what we've told you today about the Select Committee's investigation about the conclusion of the professional lawyers on the campaign staff, Justin Clark, Matt Morgan and Josh Findlay, about their unwillingness to participate in the convening of these electors, how does that contribute to your understanding of these issues? Robert Sinners: I'm angry, I'm angry. Because I think in a sense, you know, no one really cared if people were potentially putting themselves in jeopardy. January 6 Committee Lawyer: Would you have not wanted to participate in this any further, as well? Robert Sinners: I absolutely would not have had I know that the three main lawyers for the campaign that I've spoken to in the past, and were leading up, we're not on board. Yeah. Andrew Hitt: I was told that these would only count if a court ruled in our favor. So that would have been using our electors. Well, it would have been using our electors in ways that we weren't told about and we wouldn't have supported. Casey Lucier: Documents obtained by the Select Committee indicate that instructions were given to the electors in several states that they needed to cast their ballots in complete secrecy. Because the scheme involved fake electors, those participating in certain states had no way to comply with state election laws, like where the electors were supposed to meet. One group of fake electors even considered hiding overnight to ensure that they could access the State Capitol, as required in Michigan. January 6 Committee Lawyer: Did Mr. Norton say who he was working with at all on this effort to have electors meet? Laura Cox: He said he was working with the President's campaign. He told me that the Michigan Republican electors were planning to meet in the Capitol and hide overnight so that they could fulfill the role of casting their vote per law in the Michigan chambers and I told him in no uncertain terms that that was insane and inappropriate. Casey Lucier: In one state, the fake electors even asked for a promise that the campaign would pay their legal fees if they got sued or charged with a crime. Ultimately, fake electors did meet on December 14, 2020 in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Mexico, Nevada and Wisconsin. At the request of the Trump campaign, the electors from these battleground states signed documents falsely asserting that they were the quote, "duly elected" electors from their state and submitted them to the National Archives and to Vice President Pence in his capacity as President of the Senate. In an email produced to the Select Committee, Dr. Eastman told the Trump campaign representative that it did not matter that the electors had not been approved by a state authority. Quote, "the fact that we have multiple slates of electors demonstrates the uncertainty of either. That should be enough." He urged that Pence "act boldly and be challenged." Documents produced to the Select Committee show that the Trump campaign took steps to ensure that the physical copies of the fake electors' electoral votes from two states were delivered to Washington for January 6. Text messages exchanged between Republican Party officials in Wisconsin show that on January 4, the Trump campaign asked for someone to fly their fake electors' documents to Washington. A staffer for Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson texted a staffer for Vice President Pence just minutes before the beginning of the Joint Session. This staffer stated that Senator Johnson wished to hand deliver to the Vice President the fake electors' votes from Michigan and Wisconsin. The Vice President's aide unambiguously instructed them not to deliver the fake votes to the Vice President. Even though the fake elector slates were transmitted to Congress and the Executive Branch, the Vice President held firm and his position that his role was to count lawfully submitted electoral votes. Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MS): Brad Raffensperger is the 29th Secretary of State of Georgia, serving in this role since 2019. As an elected official, and a Republican Secretary, Raffensperger is responsible for supervising elections in Georgia and maintaining the state's public records. Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MS): Speaker Bowers, thank you for being with us today. You're the speaker of the Arizona House and a self-described conservative Republican. You campaigned for President Trump and with him during the 2020 election. Is it fair to say that you wanted Donald Trump to win a second term in office? Please? Rusty Bowers: Yes, sir. Thank you. Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MS): And is it your understanding that President Biden was the winner of the popular vote in Arizona in 2020? Rusty Bowers: Yes, sir. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA): Before we begin with the questions that I had prepared for you, I want to ask you about a statement that former President Trump issued, which I received just prior to the hearing. Former President Trump begins by calling you a RINO, Republican in Name Only. He then references a conversation in November 2020, in which he claims that you told him that the election was rigged, and that he had won Arizona. To quote the former President, "during the conversation, he told me the election was rigged and that I won Arizona," unquote. Is that false? Rusty Bowers: Anywhere, anyone, anytime that has said that I said the election was rigged, that would not be true. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA): And when the former President, in his statement today, claimed that you told him that he won Arizona, is that also false? Rusty Bowers: That is also false. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA): Mr. Bowers, I understand that after the election, you received a phone call from President Trump and Rudy Giuliani, in which they discussed the result of the presidential election in Arizona. If you would, tell us about that call. Rusty Bowers: Mr. Giuliani came on first. And niceties...then Mr. Trump, President Trump, then-President Trump came on. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA): During the conversation did you ask Mr. Giuliani for proof of these allegations of fraud that he was making? Rusty Bowers: On multiple occasions, yes. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA): And when you asked him for evidence of this fraud, what did he say? Rusty Bowers: He said that they did have proof. And I asked him, "Do you have names?" [He said] for example, we have 200,000 illegal immigrants, some large number, five or six thousand, dead people, etc. And I said, "Do you have their names?" Yes. "Will you give them to me?" Yes. The President interrupted and said, "Give the man what he needs Rudy." He said, "I will." And that happened on at least two occasions, that interchange in the conversation. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA): Did you ever receive from him that evidence either during the call, after the call, or to this day? Rusty Bowers: Never. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA): What was the ask during this call? Rusty Bowers: The ones I remember, were first, that we would hold -- that I would allow an official committee at at the Capitol so that they could hear this evidence, and that we could take action thereafter. I said, "to what end? To what end the hearing." He said, well, we have heard by an official high up in the Republican legislature that there is a legal theory or a legal ability in Arizona, that you can remove the the electors of President Biden and replace them. And we would like to have the legitimate opportunity, through the committee, to come to that end and and remove that. And I said that's, that's something that's totally new to me. I've never heard of any such thing. And I would never do anything of such magnitude without deep consultation with qualified attorneys. And I said, I've got some good attorneys, and I'm going to give you their names. But you're asking me to do something against my oath and I will not break my oath. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA): Did you also receive a call from US Representative Andy Biggs of Arizona on the morning of January 6? Rusty Bowers: I did. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA): And what did Mr. Biggs asked you to do? Rusty Bowers: I believe that was the day that the vote was occurring in each state to have certification or to declare the certification of the electors. And he asked if I would sign on both to a letter that had been sent from my State, and/or that I would support the decertification of the electors. And I said I would not. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA): Speaking Bowers, did the President call you again later in December? Rusty Bowers: He did, sir. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA): Did you tell the president in that second call that you supported him, that you voted for him, but that you are not going to do anything illegal for him? Rusty Bowers: I did, sir. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA): Nevertheless, his lawyer John Eastman called you some days later, and what did Dr. Eastman want you to do? Rusty Bowers: That we would, in fact, take a vote to overthrow -- or I shouldn't say overthrow -- that we would decertify the electors, and that we had plenary authority to do so. But I said, "What would you have me do?" And he said, "Just do it and let the court sorted out." And I said, "You're asking me to do something that's never been done in history, the history of the United States. And I'm going to put my state through that without sufficient proof? And that's going to be good enough with me? That I would, I would put us through that, my state that I swore to uphold, both in Constitution and in law? No, sir." Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA): I want to look even more deeply at the fake electoral scheme. Every four years, citizens from all over the United States go to the polls to elect the President. Under our Constitution, when we cast our votes for president, we are actually voting to send electors pledged to our preferred candidate to the Electoral College. In December, the electors in each state meet, cast their votes, and send those votes to Washington. There was only one legitimate slate of electors from each state. On the Sixth day of January, Congress meets in a joint session to count those votes, and the winner of the Electoral College vote becomes the president. Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MS): Secretary Raffensburger, thank you for being here today. You've been a public servant in Georgia since 2015, serving first as a member of the Georgia House of Representatives, and then since January 2019, as Georgia Secretary of State as a self described conservative Republican. Is it fair to say that you wanted President Trump to win the 2020 election? Brad Raffensperger: Yes, it is. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA): Secretary Raffensperger, did Joe Biden win the 2020 presidential election in Georgia and by what margin? Brad Raffensperger: President Biden carried the state of Georgia by approximately 12,000 votes. Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA): Bear in mind as we discuss this call today that by this point in time, early January, the election in Georgia had already been certified. But perhaps more important, the President of the United States had already been told repeatedly by his own top Justice Department officials that the claims he was about to make to you about massive fraud in Georgia were completely false. 06/16/22 Select Committee Hearing June 16, 2022 House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol Witnesses: Greg Jacob, Former Counsel to Vice President Mike Pence J. Michael Luttig, Retired judge for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit and informal advisor to Mike Pence Julie Radford, Former Chief of Staff for Ivanka Trump Eric Herschmann, Former White House Senior Advisor Nicholas Luna, Former Assistant to President Trump Gen. Keith Kellogg, Former National Security Advisor to VP Pence Clips 16:45 Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MS): Greg Jacob was Counsel to Vice President Pence. He conducted a thorough analysis of the role of the Vice President in the Joint Session of Congress under the Constitution, the Electoral Count Act, and 230 years of historical practice. But he also has firsthand information about the attack on the Capitol because he lived through it. He was with the Vice President and his own life was in danger. 31:05 Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY): Eastman was, at the time, a law professor at Chapman University Law School. He prepared a memo outlining the nonsensical theory that the Vice President could decide the outcome of the election at the Joint Session of Congress on January 6. 32:50 Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY): Dr. Eastman himself admitted in an email that the fake electors had no legal weight. Referring to the fake electors as, quote "dead on arrival in Congress" end quote, because they did not have a certification from their States. 46:40 Greg Jacob: We had a constitutional crisis in 1876 because in that year, multiple slates of electors were certified by multiple slates [sic]. And when it came time to count those votes, the antecedent question of "which ones?" had to be answered. That required the appointment of an independent commission. That commission had to resolve that question. And the purpose of the Electoral Count Act of 1887 had been to resolve those latent ambiguities. Now I'm in complete agreement with Judge Luttig. It is unambiguous that the Vice President does not have the authority to reject electors. There is no suggestion of any kind that it does. There is no mention of rejecting or objecting to electors anywhere in the 12th amendment. And so the notion that the Vice President could do that certainly is not in the text. But the problem that we had and that John Eastman raised in our discussions was, we had all seen that in Congress in 2000, in 2004, in 2016, there had been objections raised to various states. And those had even been debated in 2004. And so, here you have an Amendment that says nothing about objecting or rejecting. And yet we did have some recent practice of that happening within the terms of the Electoral Count Act. So we started with that. 1:20:45 Greg Jacob: He again tried to say, but I don't think the courts will get involved in this. They'll invoke the political question doctrine and so if the courts stay out of it, that will mean that we'll have the 10 days for the States to weigh in and resolve it. And then, you know, they'll send back the Trump slates of electors, and the people will be able to accept that. I expressed my vociferous disagreement with that point, I did not think that this was a political question. Among other things, if the courts did not step in to resolve this, there was nobody else to resolve it. You would be in a situation where you have a standoff between the President of the United States and, counterfactually, the Vice President of the United States saying that we've exercised authorities that, Constitutionally, we think we have by which we have deemed ourselves the winners of the election. You would have an opposed House and Senate disagreeing with that. You would have State legislatures that, to that point, I mean, Republican leaders across those legislatures had put together, had put out statements, and we collected these for the Vice President as well, that the people had spoken in their States and that they had no intention of reversing the outcome of the election. We did receive some signed letters that Mr. Eastman forwarded us by minorities of leaders in those States, but no State had any legislative house that indicated that added any interest in it. So you would have had just a an unprecedented Constitutional jump ball situation with that standoff. And as I expressed to him, that issue might well then have to be decided in the streets. Because if we can't work it out politically, we've already seen how charged up people are about this election. And so it would be a disastrous situation to be in. So I said, I think the courts will intervene. I do not see a commitment in the Constitution of the question, whether the Vice President has that authority to some other actor to resolve there. There's arguments about whether Congress and the Vice President jointly have a Constitutional commitment to generally decide electoral vote issues. I don't think that they have any authority to object or reject them. I don't see it in the 12th Amendment, but nonetheless. And I concluded by saying, "John, in light of everything that we've discussed, can't we just both agree that this is a terrible idea?" And he couldn't quite bring himself to say yes to that. But he very clearly said, "Well, yeah, I see we're not going to be able to persuade you to do this." And that was how the meeting concluded. Rep. Pete Aguilar (D-CA): We understand that the Vice President started his day on January 4 with a rally in Georgia for the Republican candidates in the US Senate runoff. When the Vice President returned to Washington, he was summoned to meet with the President regarding the upcoming Joint Session of Congress. Mr. Jacob, during that meeting between the President and the Vice President, what theories did Dr. Eastman present regarding the role of the Vice President in counting the electoral votes? Greg Jacob: During the meeting on January 4, Mr. Eastman was opining there were two legally viable arguments as to authorities that the Vice President could exercise two days later on January 6. One of them was that he could reject electoral votes outright. The other was that he could use his capacity as Presiding Officer to suspend the proceedings and declare essentially a 10-day recess during which States that he deemed to be disputed, there was a list of five to seven states, the exact number changed from conversation to conversation, but that the Vice President could sort of issue and demand to the State Legislatures in those States to re-examine the election and declare who had won each of those States. So he said that both of those were legally viable options. He said that he did not recommend, upon questioning, he did not recommend what he called the "more aggressive option," which was reject outright, because he thought that that would be less politically palatable. The imprimatur of State Legislature authority would be necessary to ultimately have public acceptance of an outcome in favor of President Trump. And so he advocated that the preferred course of action would be the procedural route of suspending the Joint Session and sending the election back to the States. And again, the Vice President's first instinct here is so decisive on this question, there's just no way that the framers of the Constitution who divided power and authority, who separated it out, who had broken away from George III, and declared him to be a tyrant, there was no way that they would have put in the hands of one person, the authority to determine who was going to be President of the United States. And then we went to history. We examined every single electoral vote count that had happened in Congress since the beginning of the country. And critically, no Vice President, in 230 years of history, had ever claimed to have that kind of authority, hadn't claimed authority to reject electoral votes, had not claimed authority to return electoral votes back to the States. In the entire history of the United States, not once had a Joint Session, ever returned electoral votes back to the States to be counted. So the history was absolutely decisive. And again, part of my discussion with Mr. Eastman was, if you were right, don't you think Al Gore might have liked to have known in 2000, that he had authority to just declare himself President of the United States? Did you think that the Democrat lawyers just didn't think of this very obvious quirk that he could use to do that? And of course, he acknowledged Al Gore did not and should not have had that authority at that point in time. So at the conclusion of the meeting on the 4th, the President had asked that our office meet with Mr. Eastman the next day to hear more about the positions he had expressed at that meeting, and the Vice President indicated that....offered me up as his counsel, to fulfill that duty. We had an extended discussion an hour and a half to two hours on January 5. What most surprised me about that meeting was that when Mr. Eastman came in, he said, "I'm here to request that you reject the electors." So on the 4th, that had been the path that he had said, "I'm not recommending that you do that." But on the 5th, he came in and expressly requested that. Rep. Pete Aguilar (D-CA): Mr. Jacob did you, Mr. Short, and the Vice President have a call later that day, again, with the President and Dr. Eastman? Greg Jacob: So, yes, we did. Rep. Pete Aguilar (D-CA): And what did Dr. Eastman requested on that call? Greg Jacob: On that phone call, Mr. Eastman stated that he had heard us loud and clear that morning, we were not going to be rejecting electors. But would we be open to considering the other course that we had discussed on the 4th, which would be to suspend the Joint Session and request that State Legislatures reexamine certification of the electoral votes? Rep. Pete Aguilar (D-CA): Trump issued a statement claiming the Vice President had agreed that he could determine the outcome of the election, despite the fact that the Vice President had consistently rejected that position. Mr. Jacob, how did the Vice President's team reacts to the stat

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Erin Ryan and Alyssa Mastromonaco are army crawling towards 2023 with the help of White Lotus, a hopeful reformation of the Electoral Count Act, and the schadenfreude of watching a crypto bro fly too close to the sun. Then, Jena Friedman and Megan Gailey join to talk true crime, from copaganda to genuine ACAB content. Finally, we close it out with a Sani-Petty — but with all Sani, no Petty, because we're treating ourselves during this year-end chaos!Show NotesTrue Crime Story: IndefensibleNot Funny: Essays on Life, Comedy, Culture, Et Cetera by Jena FriedmanLadykillerr/idahomurders

With Republicans set to take over the House in a little more than a month, Democrats want one more spending blowout, as a Dec. 16 deadline looms for funding the government. Meantime, lawmakers are also considering the Electoral Count Act, the National Defense Authorization Act (or NDAA), and maybe even the debt ceiling. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Herschel Walker is engulfed in a devastating abortion saga-- and it speaks volumes about Republicans more broadly. Brian interviews the Democratic nominee for the US Senate in Pennsylvania, John Fetterman, about the new revelation that Dr. Oz was responsible for experiments that killed puppies, his response to Republican attacks against him regarding crime, and what his tattoos really mean. And Senator Amy Klobuchar joins to discuss some major news—that the Electoral Count Act is on its way to being reformed, her response to Ted Cruz for being the only Republican in the committee to vote against it, and what still needs to happen to secure our elections.BUY WINE: https://briantylercohen.com/codify-roe-se/Shop merch: https://briantylercohen.com/shopYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/briantylercohenTwitter: https://twitter.com/briantylercohenFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/briantylercohenInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/briantylercohenPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/briantylercohenNewsletter: https://www.briantylercohen.com/sign-upWritten by Brian Tyler CohenProduced by Sam GraberRecorded in Los Angeles, CASee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

After months of mostly quiet, behind-the-scenes debate, both the House and Senate seem ready to move forward with reforming the Electoral Count Act, the 1887 statute governing how Congress counts electoral votes, whose various ambiguities played a central role in unsuccessful plans to turn the 2020 election results in favor of former President Trump. Experts are all but unanimous on the need to reform the law, and both proposals have at least some bipartisan support, including from Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell. But the path forward remains far from certain. To discuss what comes next, Lawfare senior editor Scott R. Anderson sat down with Ned Foley, a leading election law expert and professor at The Ohio State University's Moritz College of Law, and Genevieve Nadeau, a Counsel at the organization Protect Democracy who has been engaging on reform efforts. They discussed the similarities and differences between the House and Senate reform proposals, how they will strengthen our election process, and what work remains to be done. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week, Alan, Quinta, and Scott sat down with unofficial fourth co-host, Lawfare executive editor Natalie Orpett, to discuss the week's big national security news, including:“That's one, one disqualified elector. (Ah ah ah.)” Both the House and Senate finally seem ready to reform the Electoral Count Act, the ambiguity-ridden statute that has (kind of) governed how Congress counts electoral votes since 1887. What threats to our elections process will these reforms fix? Which will they leave unaddressed?“It's No Longer A-Me, Mario.” Recent elections are set to replace Italian Prime Minister Mario Draghi with none other than Giorgia Meloni, the leader of the far-right Brothers of Italy movement. What does her victory mean for democracy in Italy and across Europe?“Narcnado.” The Treasury Department's decision to sanction Tornado Cash, an open source cryptocurrency tumbler, has privacy and technology advocates crying foul. Will the sanctions survive a coming legal challenge? Does it put First Amendment rights at risk?For object lessons, Alan confessed his love of Jon Hamm, particularly in the movie "Confess, Fletch." Quinta recommended journalist David Enrich's deep dive into the big law firm Jones Day, "Servants of the Damned." Scott urged listeners to check out both his long-awaited report on standing doctrine and the late Loretta Lynn's rocker "Portland, Oregon" off her album with Jack White, "Van Lear Rose." And Natalie passed along a recent very real, non-satirical filing before the Supreme Court by America's finest news source, The Onion. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Understanding The Electoral Count Act, as it's currently worded, requires a team of legal experts. So we got one! Sarah is joined by John Fortier, senior fellow at AEI, and Matthew Seligman, fellow at the Constitutional Law Center at Stanford Law School. Together they try to make sense of the law's history, explain the difference between the two reform bills coming up through the House and the Senate, and debate whether either one goes far enough to prevent a constitutional crisis in 2024.Show Notes:-Matthew in support of the Senate bill-What the Vice President can't do-John's guide to the electoral college-Matthew's 2024 risk assessment

Sam Sanders joins Jon, Jon, Tommy, and Dan live from SiriusXM! The January 6th committee delays their hearing among new revelations about Roger Stone, the Senate moves closer to passing the Electoral Count Act thanks to Mitch McConnell, and special guests Senator Elizabeth Warren and John Legend join to talk about the midterms. Plus, the hosts of Crooked's Gen Z podcast Dare We Say join for a battle of the generations.Check out Crooked Radio on SiriusXM progress starting 10/1, Get up to 4 months free: http://siriusxm.com/crooked 

On today's episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast we have an incredible guest, Director of Political Strategy ‘Gen-Z For Change', Olivia Julianna! We discuss Olivia's activism, her passion for pro-democracy causes and her public spats with Ultra MAGA Republicans whose attacks on her backfired in a major way. During the rest of the show, we discuss the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals' complete smackdown of Judge Aileen Cannon's ruling, allowing the DOJ to get its own classified records back, NY AG Letitia James's massive civil fraud lawsuit against Donald Trump, the Trump Organization, Don Jr., Ivanka, Eric, and others, for $250 million, the Electoral Count Act passing the House and much more! New episodes of The MeidasTouch Podcast release every Tuesday and Friday at 5am ET. If you enjoyed today's show please be sure to rate, review and subscribe. As always, thank YOU for listening. Learn more about Gen-Z For Change: https://genzforchange.org/ Follow Olivia Julianna on Twitter: https://twitter.com/0liviajulianna DEALS FROM OUR SPONSORS: AG1 by Athletic Greens: https://athleticgreens.com/meidas Better Help: https://betterhelp.com/meidas Shop Meidas Merch at: https://store.meidastouch.com Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/meidastouch Remember to subscribe to ALL the Meidas Media Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://pod.link/1510240831 Legal AF: https://pod.link/1580828595 The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://pod.link/1595408601 The Influence Continuum: https://pod.link/1603773245 Kremlin File: https://pod.link/1575837599 Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://pod.link/1530639447 The Weekend Show: https://pod.link/1612691018 The Tony Michaels Podcast: https://pod.link/1561049560 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tuesday, September 20th, 2022 Today, in the Hot Notes: a judge denies the pillow man's motion to dismiss the Smartmatic lawsuit against him; a judge has vacated the murder conviction of Adnan Syed; the House files it's version of the Electoral Count Act reform bill; the Bexar County Sheriff in Texas has opened a criminal investigation into Ron DeSantis' operation to fly asylum seekers from Texas to Martha's Vineyard; the DoJ files a document review vendor in the Mar-a-Lago case; and Biden's approval rating climbs to 45%; plus Allison and Dana deliver your Good News. Follow the Podcast on Apple: http://apple.co/beans Follow AG and Dana on Twitter: Dr. Allison Gill  https://twitter.com/allisongill https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote https://twitter.com/dailybeanspod Dana Goldberg https://twitter.com/DGComedy Follow Aimee on Instagram: Aimee Carrero (@aimeecarrero) How We Win Fund swingleft.org/fundraise/howwewin Crimes & Crimes & Crimes t-shirt: https://www.dailybeanspod.com/shop/ Listener Survey: http://survey.podtrac.com/start-survey.aspx?pubid=BffJOlI7qQcF&ver=short Have some good news, a confession, a correction, or a case for Beans Court? https://www.dailybeanspod.com/confessional/ Want to support the show and get it ad-free and early? https://dailybeans.supercast.tech Or https://patreon.com/thedailybeans Promo Code Thanks to Athletic Greens for supporting The Daily Beans. Go to athleticgreens.com/dailybeans and get a FREE 1 year supply of immune-supporting Vitamin D AND 5 FREE travel packs with your first purchase.

Nicolle Wallace discusses the Justice Department's investigation into Trump's actions on Jan. 6th. Plus, Congress grapples with reforming the Electoral Count Act, gunmakers testify on Capitol Hill, and a potential deal to free Brittney Griner.Joined by: Carol Leonnig, Neal Katyal, Charlie Sykes, Betsy Woodruff Swan, Jackie Alemany, Joyce Vance, Miles Taylor, Marc Elias, and Michael Crowley

As the January 6th Hearings come to a close, senators from both parties look to amend the Electoral Count Act which would make it harder for a future president to pressure the V.P. to overturn election results. Plus, Donald Trump may announce a 2024 bid for president to avoid prison. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The false claims of election fraud and other controversies that followed the 2020 election brought to light a number of frailties in the United States system for selecting presidents. Several have their origins in the Electoral Count Act, an 1887 law whose vagaries played a central role in efforts by John Eastman and other supporters of former President Trump to keep him in the White House, despite the election results.This past Wednesday, after months of negotiations, a bipartisan group of senators finally put forward a set of legislative reforms aimed at resolving these and other issues well in advance of the next presidential election in 2024. To determine what this reform package will do and how it may impact future elections, Scott R. Anderson sat down with Ned Foley, a leading election law expert and professor at The Ohio State University's Moritz College of Law, and Genevieve Nadeau, a counsel at Protect Democracy who has been actively engaged in reform efforts. They talked about what the reform package intends to change, what will stay the same, and how likely it is to eventually become law.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.