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Episode 147 - Healthy Entertainment - Feeding the Soul In this episode of the Faith and Family Filmmakers podcast, your host Geoffrey Whitt continues his interview with Isaac Hernandez. They discuss Isaac's personal journey with his health, and a revelation about healthy entertainment and its impact on the soul. Isaac shares about his roles in directing and producing Christian Television, providing insights into the differences between directing and producing for TV vs film. Isaac shares his experiences working with ICVM and producing the Crown Awards, and encourages listeners to engage with his show, ‘Faith on Film'.Highlights Include:Health Issues and InsightsThe Concept of Healthy EntertainmentThe Importance of Feeding Your SoulInvolvement with ICVMThe Crown AwardsChallenges and Successes in Producing the Crown AwardsDirecting TV ShowsFirst Step: PrayerSkills Needed for Directing TVProducing TV ShowsBio: Isaac has a prolific portfolio with over four decades of experience in the Christian entertainment industry which includes directing and producing hundreds of TV shows for the Trinity Broadcasting Network, including their live flagship show Praise the Lord. He also served as a programming executive for the network before leaving to help launch the first faith-based subscription streaming movie platform, Parables TV.In 2019, He launched his own TV show, “Faith On Film,” an interview talk program which can be seen on over 19 various platforms and networks worldwide. He is now joined by his co-host Holly McClure.Currently Isaac is consulting for several streaming companies, film distributors and producers as well as producing and directing TV shows.Email Isaac: isaac858@gmail.comwww.faithonfilmtv.comwww.youtube.com/@faithonfilmtvFAFF Association Online Meetups: https://faffassociation.com/#faff-meetingsScreenwriters Retreat - Mexico: https://www.faffassociation.com/writers-retreatJaclyn's Book - In the Beginning, Middle and End: A Screenwriter's Observations of LIfe, Character, and God: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D9R7XS9VVIP Producers Mentorship Program https://www.faffassociation.com/vip-producers-mentorship The Faith & Family Filmmakers podcast helps filmmakers who share a Christian worldview stay in touch, informed, and inspired. Releasing new episodes every week, we interview experts from varying fields of filmmaking; from screenwriters, actors, directors, and producers, to film scorers, talent agents, and distributors. It is produced and hosted by Geoffrey Whitt and Jaclyn Whitt , and is brought to you by the Faith & Family Filmmakers Association Support Faith & Family Filmmakers Our mission is to help filmmakers who share a Christian Worldview stay in touch, informed, and...

Episode 146 - The Story Behind ‘Faith on Film' In this episode of the Faith and Family Filmmakers Podcast, your host Geoffrey Whitt welcomes Isaac Hernandez, a veteran with over 40 years in Christian media. Isaac discusses his extensive career at Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN), the launch of the faith-based streaming platform Parables TV, and his current show 'Faith on Film' which has expanded to 28 platforms globally. Isaac shares his journey from discovering his passion for television as a child, to his roles in directing and producing for TBN, eventually transitioning into pastoral work, and then back to media with a renewed perspective. The episode emphasizes the importance of volunteering, the impact of God's guidance in his career, and challenges and opportunities within the Christian film industry.Bio: Isaac has a prolific portfolio with over four decades of experience in the Christian entertainment industry which includes directing and producing hundreds of TV shows for the Trinity Broadcasting Network, including their live flagship show Praise the Lord. He also served as a programming executive for the network before leaving to help launch the first faith-based subscription streaming movie platform, Parables TV.In 2019, He launched his own TV show, “Faith On Film,” an interview talk program which can be seen on over 19 various platforms and networks worldwide. He is now joined by his co-host Holly McClure.Currently Isaac is consulting for several streaming companies, film distributors and producers as well as producing and directing TV shows.www.faithonfilmtv.comwww.youtube.com/@faithonfilmtvFAFF Association Online Meetups: https://faffassociation.com/#faff-meetingsScreenwriters Retreat - Mexico: https://www.faffassociation.com/writers-retreatJaclyn's Book - In the Beginning, Middle and End: A Screenwriter's Observations of LIfe, Character, and God: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D9R7XS9VVIP Producers Mentorship Program https://www.faffassociation.com/vip-producers-mentorship The Faith & Family Filmmakers podcast helps filmmakers who share a Christian worldview stay in touch, informed, and inspired. Releasing new episodes every week, we interview experts from varying fields of filmmaking; from screenwriters, actors, directors, and producers, to film scorers, talent agents, and distributors. It is produced and hosted by Geoffrey Whitt and Jaclyn Whitt , and is brought to you by the Faith & Family Filmmakers Association Support Faith & Family Filmmakers Our mission is to help filmmakers who share a Christian Worldview stay in touch, informed, and inspired. If you would like to assist with the costs of producing this podcast, you can help by leaving a tip.Get Email Notifications Enter the Faith & Family Screenwriting Awards festival Faith and Family Screenwriting...

“In October 1975, I was shot six times. And while I was on the hospital gurney, doctor told me I was going to die. I heard a very clear voice that spoke to me and said, you're not going to die. You're going to be a chaplain at San Quentin prison.” (Chaplain Earl Smith) Chaplain Earl Smith believes that ministry to the incarcerated is about so much more than rehabilitation. It's about regeneration. Using the power of his own story of transformation from gang member to pastor, Chaplain Smith has maintained a faithful presence and witness for many decades of pastoral service to the incarcerated at San Quentin Rehabilitation Center, and now to professional athletes (including the Golden State Warriors, San Francisco 49ers, and the San Francisco Giants). Today on the show Mark Labberton and Chaplain Earl Smith discuss the moral and spiritual factors of prison chaplaincy and ministry for those on death row; the meaning of freedom and education; how he ministered to the leader of the Aryan Brotherhood; the difference that positive mentoring and coaching makes in young people's lives; and the transformative power of the gospel to go beyond rehabilitation to regeneration. About Earl Smith Born and reared in Stockton, California, the cycle of events in Earl's life came to a head in 1975 when he was shot 6 times while living the life of a minor gangster. Although expected to die, Earl's father's faith, prayers, and love seemed to bring him through. The words of his father have motivated him, since that event, “you are a rebel, but you are God's rebel, and God is going to use you to His glory.” In 1983, at the age of 27, Earl became the youngest person ever hired as a Protestant Chaplain by the California Department of Corrections. He is author of Death Row Chaplain: Unbelievable True Stories from America's Most Notorious Prison. Chaplain Smith currently serves as the Chief Executive Officer for Franklin Home, a Transition Living/Reentry Home for men and is the Team Pastor for the San Francisco 49ers' and the Golden State Warriors. From 1998 to 2006 Chaplain Smith was the Chapel Leader for the San Francisco Giants. Chaplain Smith has ministered to teams playing in NFL Super Bowls, MLB World Series and NBA Championships. In 2000, Chaplain Smith was recognized as the National Correctional Chaplain of the Year. Chaplain Smith has appeared on numerous broadcasts, including HBO, CNN, The 700 Club, Trinity Broadcasting Network and The History Channel. Earl has been featured in Christianity Today, Ebony, Guidepost, Ministry Today, Newsweek, People's Weekly, The African Americans and Time. Show Notes Get your copy of Death Row Chaplain: Unbelievable True Stories from America's Most Notorious Prison How Mark and Chaplain Smith met The value of education “I had to stop my education because of the execution schedule at San Quentin.” How Earl Smith got into prison chaplaincy “In October 1975, I was shot six times. And while I was on the hospital gurney, doctor told me I was going to die. I heard a very clear voice that spoke to me and said, you're not going to die. You're going to be a chaplain at San Quentin prison.” What San Quentin prison is like “We used to call San Quentin the Bastille by the Bay. The thing that really stood out for me was the fact that for 13 of the first 16 months I was there, the prison was locked down. The day I interviewed, two people were killed, so they stopped my interview twice. So I understood where I was. I understood the context of confinement. What I also went in there understanding was. It was not about rehabilitation. It was about regeneration.” “I believe that that's part of chaplaincy is not to allow the confines of the wall to dictate who you are.” A sense of liberty Fear and reality Earl Smith's ministry to the leader of the Aryan Brotherhood How faith shaped a capacity to be free from fear for the sake of love Mass incarceration and the new Jim Crow The drug epidemic and its impact on mass incarceration “How can you help us prepare these guys to come home?” “Whether you're on condemned role, if you have a life without the possibility of parole, or life sentence, or whatever it is, my job is still to share the same gospel message.” “Present your body as a living sacrifice.” Pastoral care in the prison system Calling prisoners by their first names instead of their numbers “When you've done it onto the least of these, you've done it to me, so there's a value in your presence.” Chaplaincy to professional athletes “The states that have the largest prison systems are also the states that send the most professional athletes in the pro sports.” Golden State Warriors and San Francisco 49ers The difference that positive mentoring and coaching makes in young people's lives “Every man wants someone to acknowledge there's something positive in what you're doing.” “They May Know Your Number, But God Knows Your Name” (Clifton Jansky, country western singer) God's way of paying attention to us; “how vested God is in our pursuit of being fully human” (reference to Marilynne Robinson) Performance and identity (reference to Ben Houltberg) Jerry Rice, #80 and “who wore the number before you?” Fellowship of Christian Athletes and Athletes in Action “God is a relational God. … Sports is relational.” When did chaplaincy in sports become a thing? Pat Ritchie's chaplaincy Understanding the value and difference chaplaincy makes Documentary and Film Adaptation: Death Row Chaplain “A story not of rehabilitation but regeneration” “That's really what the story is about. Some of my yesterday, some of my today. And what I believe to be my tomorrow.” Production Credits Conversing is produced and distributed in partnership with Comment Magazine and Fuller Seminary.

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with the senior pastor of the Harvest Christian Fellowship, Greg Laurie. They discuss the true story behind the hit film “The Jesus Revolution,” Laurie's relationship with hippie-preacher and counter-culture icon Lonnie Frisbee, how he found faith in the most unlikely of places, and the past 50 years of building his world-renowned ministry. Greg Laurie is the senior pastor of Harvest Christian Fellowship with campuses in California and Hawaii. He began his pastoral ministry at the age of 19 by leading a Bible study of 30 people. Since then, God has transformed that small group into a church of some 15,000 people. Today, Harvest is one of the largest churches in America and consistently ranks among the most influential churches in the country. In 1990, Laurie began holding large-scale public evangelistic events called Harvest Crusades. Since that time, more than 9.8 million people have participated in these events in person or online around the United States. In 2012, Laurie launched Harvest America, a nationwide event using the internet to simulcast live HD video to thousands of locations across the country. With an unprecedented 306,000 Americans in live attendance, Harvest America ranks among the largest presentations of the gospel in United States history. Harvest Crusades have also been held internationally in Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. More importantly, some 531,889 people have made professions of faith through these outreaches. In 2020 and in partnership with Kingdom Story Company, Laurie premiered his first-ever cinematic crusade, “A Rush of Hope,” viewed by over 2 million people in its opening weekend. Laurie is the featured speaker of the nationally syndicated radio program, A New Beginning, which is broadcast on more than 1,200 radio outlets around the world. Laurie's weekly television program, “Harvest + Greg Laurie,” is carried on major TV networks such as Lifetime, Fox Business, Newsmax, Daystar, KCAL 9 Los Angeles, and the Trinity Broadcasting Network. This episode was filmed on November 4th, 2024  | Links | For Greg Laurie: On X https://x.com/greglaurie?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/greglaurie/?hl=en On YouTube https://www.youtube.com/greglaurie 

“Disaster on God's people is disaster on God's people, and Jews and Christians are in this together,” Yael Eckstein said. Join Pastor Allen Jackson for an interview with Eckstein, President of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews (IFCJ), as we remember those impacted by the October 7 attacks in Israel. Eckstein discusses the work the IFCJ is doing to provide aid, relief, and hope for those affected by the war. She shares how the prayers and support of Christians in America has been encouraging and urges us to continue praying for the peace of Israel. This interview was a part of the Flags of Fellowship event, hosted by IFCJ, Trinity Broadcasting Network, and hundreds of churches across the United States, including World Outreach Church. Antisemitism is on the rise again, and as Christians, we need to use our voices and boldly stand with our friends in Israel.   To support this ministry and help us continue to reach people all around the world, visit this link: allenjackson.com/podcastdonate

Exploding onto the comedy scene, Atlanta comedian Josh Harris has experienced an impressive rise over the last few years. Hailed by Creative Loafing Magazine for “combining frat boy silliness with a trap star mentality,” his high energy performances and original material made him a semifinalist on Bill Bellamy's Who's Got Jokes. In 2009 NBC flew him to LA to compete in the finals of the nationwide talent search Stand Up for Diversity, which showcased the country's ten freshest comedians at The Comedy Store. In 2012 he performed a nationally televised comedy set for Bounce TV's “Off The Chain” hosted by Rodney Perry from “The Monique Show.”  In 2017 he performed a nationally televised comedy set on Trinity Broadcasting Network. In 2018 he hit viral video success garnering over 11 million views on his hilarious sketches. In 2020 Josh landed a comedy contract headlining Carnival Cruise Ships. He's written for Cartoon Network Online, starred in a television pilot for History Channel, and in 2015 released his debut musical comedy album “I'm Here You're Welcome.” The album debuted at #3 on the iTunes comedy Charts and hit #13 on Billboard. 

Christian began doing standup at age 19 in Baltimore, Maryland. His comedy is a combination of animated storytelling, energetic characters, and pure entertainment. Christian can be seen live on stage touring the country as well as on Instagram, Facebook, and Tiktok where he has over 5 million followers from around the world. Christian has also portrayed Levi in the series spin off of the Andy Griffith Show known as Mayberry Man. In January of 2024 he made his TV debut as a special guest performer on Huckabee on the Trinity Broadcasting Network. Two weeks after Huckabee, Christian headlined the FedEx Forum in Memphis Tennessee for the Memphis Grizzlies Faith and Family Night. "I love seeing people smile and God has blessed me with the ability to do that." Christian's Mission Statement: Laughter is the best medicine, but Jesus Christ is the only healer!

Bishop G. E. Patterson, the presiding bishop of the Church of God in Christ, the nation's largest African-American Pentecostal denomination, died Tuesday in Memphis. He was 67 and lived in Memphis, where the church has its headquarters.  The cause was heart failure, his nephew Milton T. Hawkins said. A son of a bishop of the Church of God in Christ, Bishop Patterson was elected leader of the denomination in 2000. Known for his vivid sermons, Bishop Patterson spread the Pentecostal word through regular Sunday services broadcast on the Word Network, the Trinity Broadcasting Network and Black Entertainment

This is a Holy Spirit inspired sermon about Easter Sunday. If it adds value to you, please donate to help us publish our autobiography, "Choosing Joy - How To Slay Your Enemies Through Love." We have $14,750 to go before we're advertised on Trinity Broadcasting Network to 2 Billion Households.

Guest: Rabbi Jason SobelOrganization(s): Trinity Broadcasting Network, Fusion GlobalTopic(s): Meaning of the Passover elements, preview of TBN specials: God's Appointed Times with Rabbi Jason Sobel, Jesus in the PassoverWebsites: tbn.org, fusionglobal.org

Guest: Rabbi Jason SobelOrganization(s): Trinity Broadcasting Network, Fusion GlobalTopic(s): Meaning of the Passover elements, preview of TBN specials: God's Appointed Times with Rabbi Jason Sobel, Jesus in the PassoverWebsites: tbn.org, fusionglobal.org

Guest: Erick StakelbeckProgram: Stakelbeck TonightSource: Trinity Broadcasting Network and its streaming platformTopic: In advance of the debut of his new show, he discussed some current trends about which he sees Christians should be concerned.  Website: tbn.org, thewatchmantv.com

Guest: Erick StakelbeckProgram: Stakelbeck TonightSource: Trinity Broadcasting Network and its streaming platformTopic: In advance of the debut of his new show, he discussed some current trends about which he sees Christians should be concerned.  Website: tbn.org, thewatchmantv.com

This is a Holy Spirit inspired sermon all related to Choosing Joy. It is top 10 tips from our family to yours. Get a journal out, take notes, and share the key nuggets that add value to you. If you enjoy it and are able to, please donate to our nonprofit arm for veterans and first responders called: Erin Nicole Ministries to help pay publishing fees and advertising fees for my autobiography called: Choosing Joy - How To Slay Your Enemies Through Love. Please mail checks to: 1477 Tiny Town Road #191 Clarksville, TN 37042. I just paid the first payment of $1,000. We have $14,500 to go before it'll be released on Trinity Broadcasting Network to 2 Billion households eek!!!

Guest: Sheila WalshOrganization: Trinity Broadcasting NetworkPosition: program hostLocation: NRB 2024Website: tbn.org, sheilawalsh.com

Guest: Sheila WalshOrganization: Trinity Broadcasting NetworkPosition: program hostLocation: NRB 2024Website: tbn.org, sheilawalsh.com

Lyndsay M. Keith co-hosts "The News on Merit Street," a weeknight news program on Merit Street Media, the new network from Dr. Phil McGraw. Previously, she hosted news shows on Trinity Broadcasting Network and Newsmax.

2024 Prophetic Almanac Bill JenkinsWell, 2023 has come and gone. It's been an “interesting year” to say the least. We've seen Christianity attacked in this nation like never before. We've seen politicians just, basically, surrendering the sovereignty of this nation. We've seen natural disasters on a scale that, some say, has not happened for hundreds, if not a thousand years.We have Israel at war – and the mounting pressures from nations around the world are continuing to condemn Israel for defending themselves rather than condemning the attackers and the nations supporting the terrorists. Can I add – just like the Bible says will happen? Amen?But, for believers though, this is not a time of doom and gloom! Far from it. We are told by Jesus in Luke 21:28 that “When these things begin to take place, look up, for your redemption is drawing near!” Amen!With all that is happening, wouldn't it be nice to have a peek at what is going to happen in the Spirit this year? It takes someone with a special gift from God to be able to do that without sounding like a soothsayer or a nut job, right! It takes someone anointed by God with this gift to lay things out - in a logical format. And that is what my guest will do today!Our guest today is Pastor Bill Jenkins of the Destinyland Christian Center in Rancho Cucamonga, California. Every year, he releases a new book titled, “The Prophetic Almanac.”If you have ever heard of the “The Farmer's Almanac,” well the “Prophetic Almanac” is the Spiritual equivalent that will release a spiritual vision for your personal life and - it gives a prophetic forecast for our nation as well. Amen!Pastor Bill Jenkins is a 1991 graduate from Christ for the Nations in Dallas, Texas, my old stomping grounds for a few years... He has been in ministry for over 30 years. He also had his own Television Program on the Trinity Broadcasting Network - and has hosted the “Praise the Lord” program a few times as well. Praise God!He has written numerous books and has become known as a modern day Apostle of God with a prophetic voice. He and his wife, Britain, work extremely hard to release the message of HOPE into our world (and very needful, for such a time as this, I might add). Pastor Jenkins takes some of the toughest passages of scripture and explains them in a practical and interesting way. He is quickly becoming the “Go To” guy when it comes to Biblical interpretation. He also has had a radio program on “Evangelism Radio” for several years. His program runs Monday through Friday from 10-1030am Eastern Time.Every year, about this time, I ask Pastor Bill to come back on and share with us his insights from the Word of God as he talks about the new issue of “The Prophetic Almanac” as it relates to the coming year. And that is what we will be talking about today as we leave a very hectic and chaotic 2023 behind and are moving forward into 2024.Help me welcome back to the program, Pastor Bill Jenkins. Pastor, thank you for taking the time to visit with us today!I want to jump right into this…You have gone through all of the Bible and researched all the Chapter 24's. What is the Lord showing you that this year is going to be like… I guess a “theme for 2024” – so to speak?What does 2024 mean for God's church this year?Let's talk a bit about some of the 24's in your book…

Are you ready for part two of the interview with Marlene Rice? Her vulnerability endeared us to her as she shared how God drew her out of a hippie commune in the 70's and into His family. For the past forty years she has served on staff for ministries including Luis Palau, Open Doors, Coral Ridge Ministries, Full Gospel Businessmen's Fellowship, Trinity Broadcasting Network, CRU, Teen Challenge and Women of Faith. She shares about smuggling Bibles into China when she served with Open Doors and how God led her and her husband when their son struggled with a serious drug addiction for decades.Marlene served on the board of the Jubilee Campaign for international human and religious rights and advocated for the abolishment of sex trafficking. Marlene attended Fuller Theological Seminary and Trinity University and holds a master's degree in religion. She and her husband, Frank raised four children and have nine grandchildren and three great-grandchildren. She has served as the Development Director of the Maui Food Bank since 2005.Contact Information:mrice7@outlook.comBooks:Ever Changing Seasons – Never Changing GodPono's Magical Maui Adventure

Erick Stakelbeck, News Correspondent for Trinity Broadcasting Network and host of The Watchman program, previewed a special on TBN on September 5, 2023 called, The Rise of Artificial Intelligence, examining AI and its implications for Christians.  You can learn more at tbn.org or watchmantv.com. 

Erick Stakelbeck, News Correspondent for Trinity Broadcasting Network and host of The Watchman program, previewed a special on TBN on September 5, 2023 called, The Rise of Artificial Intelligence, examining AI and its implications for Christians.  You can learn more at tbn.org or watchmantv.com. 

This is a Holy Spirit inspired sermon titled: Trinity Broadcasting Network with Erin Nicole. I had the opportunity to visit one of their branches that is closest geographically to my area. Sadly there was no advertising outside where the GPS took me but it did say, Covenant Bible College which is what the sales person at TBN's 3rd party arm for their publishing company told me is their affiliated university. So I knew I was in the right area when I visited their campus to confirm they are a real business with physical locations. I can't wait for you to listen to this episode! Stay all the way to the end to hear about how you can support us and help us get my autobiography: Choosing Joy: How To Slay Your Enemies Through Love around the world to the most vulnerable ears and eyes that need to hear all the miracles HE HAS BROUGHT ME THROUGH in the last 3 years! Love is the most powerful force in the world and I cannot wait to be reunited to my husband, a decorated war hero veteran. Listen and share with whomever you believe is in alignment with this message. Thank you in advance

MY NEW NORM Podcast- S3 E16 ENCORE SERIES 3 of 7GUEST: ROD BUTLEREPISODE: ROD THE PUPPET GUYIn this episode, you'll enter into the world of imagination and fun.The creativity gene definitely runs in my next guest's DNA.Known as Rod The Puppet Guy, Rod Butler, has been creating and performing live puppet shows for more than 40 years.His many talents have been seen and heard via National radio programs, TV commercials, seminars, hospitals, churches, and schools.Rod is also an author, creative writer, genuine friend and one of the kindest people you will ever meet. It's my honor to have him as today's guest.-ABOUT-Rod Butler grew up listening to the snapping keys of the typewriter as his father, John K. Butler wrote classic Westerns including My Pal Trigger and Silver Spurs starring Roy Rogers. Rod went on to fill books with poetry, stories, and cartoons, eventually writing for television, print, online, and radio. Rod's radio career includes creating and hosting the nationally syndicated Coconut Hut Radio Show, starring as Bongo Rod, Bob Dah Lobstah, Captain FlashLight, and other characters. He produced the animated series Boy + Dog for Daystar TV and Trinity Broadcasting Network and has written hundreds of educational scripts for Responsive Ed. Rod is also a children's minister and a professional puppeteer, on YouTube as Rod The Puppet Guy. He is married with three grown children and several trunk-loads of puppets.—————————————————ROD BUTLER'S NEW WEBSITE:www.filamentcity.com-ROD THE PUPPET GUY CHANNEL-Welcome to the exciting world of PUPPETS! Get ready to have fun as you learn to make a puppet from just about anything! And then gain the skills to bring that puppet to life.We'll cover simple and more complex puppet building, from stuff you probably already have around the house.But it doesn't stop with just making a puppet. You'll discover how to make a puppet act alive, and be funny, and perform puppet shows that people will love, and remember.YouTube Channel-https://youtu.be/88TsExtTKKEBOOK:In PAINTING THE WORLD GLAD, Rod Butler offers a collection of whimsical, thoughtful, and inspirational poetry for readers of all ages. Enjoy more than 80 poems that will encourage, entertain, and be sure to bring a smile.VIDEO- PAINTING THE WORLD GLAD:https://youtu.be/24mL9VMs54wPainting the World Glad: Fun-tastic Poems / AMAZON:https://a.co/d/bLCbR04BOOK:Low Voltage covers Filament City with goopy purple darkness! Now Captain FlashLight, Neoni, Blinkie, Professor Luminous, Glazer, Stell, and the PizzaBot will discover that no matter how hopeless it looks, LIGHT WILL ALWAYS CONQUER DARKNESS!The Captain's brilliant adventures are a wonderful way to teach children about being bright lights in a dark and hurting world.Darknetized: The Junior Novel / AMAZON:https://a.co/d/9y1545T------------------------------------------MY PAL TRIGGER- ROY ROGERShttps://youtu.be/4ZnNRqOuWzwROD BUTLER'S  WEBSITE:Visit his website: www.rodthepuppetguy.com.————————————————-—Now you can help support this podcast with as little as the price of a cup of coffee. Help support MY NEW NORM Podcast-Go to link below:https://ko-fi.com/mynewnormOne more thing, help us get the word outmynewnorm.buzzsprout.com/ / Find us on all major podcast platforms!

In advance of the premiere of a new series on the Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) Wednesdays at 8:30p.m. Central beginning on June 28, series host Sheila Walsh previewed the series documenting her initial journey to Israel called, My First Trip to Israel with Sheila Walsh. The TBN website is tbn.org. You can find her online at sheilawalsh.com. 

In advance of the premiere of a new series on the Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) Wednesdays at 8:30p.m. Central beginning on June 28, series host Sheila Walsh previewed the series documenting her initial journey to Israel called, My First Trip to Israel with Sheila Walsh. The TBN website is tbn.org. You can find her online at sheilawalsh.com. 

The Founder and Chairman of The Joshua Fund, Editor-in-Chief of All Israel News and All Arab News, and host of The Rosenberg Report on Trinity Broadcasting Network, discussed the significance of the 75th anniversary of the modern-day nation of Israel and shared about the plot and premise of his novel, The Libyan Diversion, and its similarity to real-life events. You can find him online at joelrosenberg.com. 

The Founder and Chairman of The Joshua Fund, Editor-in-Chief of All Israel News and All Arab News, and host of The Rosenberg Report on Trinity Broadcasting Network, discussed the significance of the 75th anniversary of the modern-day nation of Israel and shared about the plot and premise of his novel, The Libyan Diversion, and its similarity to real-life events. You can find him online at joelrosenberg.com. 

Vortex duo Sam and Jason settle in for a ramble heavy episode of Click Vortex, streamed live on the WASTOIDS YouTube channel Wednesday, May 10th. For his segment, Sam opens up with some primo Satanic panic, examining the hidden messages of Jeff Lynne and ELO, and the Trinity Broadcasting Network's Led Zeppelin reel-to-reel demonstrations. In the second half of the show, Jason asks: how many Star Trek tie-in novels is too many Star Trek tie-in novels, and explores the weird, wild world of the SynthAxe—an ultra-expensive synth that looks (kinda) like a guitar. Call us anytime at 1-877-WASTOIDS. More podcasts and videos at WASTOIDS.com | Follow us on Instagram and YouTube.

What an episode! We're honored to share this conversation. Clifton Davis a Tony nominated actor, prolific singer, composer, producer and minister. He wrote the famous song “Never Can Say Goodbye” sung by the Jackson 5 which was No. 2 on the charts. He also wrote songs for The Supremes and Donna Summer. Davis is also best known for his 5-year run as Reverend Rueben Gregory on the popular NBC television series “Amen”, which continues in reruns on cable TV. His earlier series "That's My Mama", served to established him as a widely known actor and television star. Raised on Long Island, he began his career in New York City in the Broadway show HELLO DOLLY. Six years and five Broadway shows later (and 9 so far!), Davis headed to Hollywood and the rest is history.  Most recently, Davis appeared in the recurring role of “Ephraim Ware”, Director of National Intelligence on the CBS hit show "Madam Secretary". Davis recently completed a 4-year run on Broadway having originated the role of Sultan, in the hit Disney musical, ALADDIN and starring as Dr. Dillamond in WICKED on both Broadway and the National Tour.​Davis holds a BA in Theology from Oakwood University and a Master of Divinity degree from Andrews University.  Mr. Davis is also the recipient of honorary Doctor of Letters degrees from Lincoln University, Paine College and Edward Waters College, a Doctor of Ministry from Trinity International University and just received a Doctor of Fine Arts degree from the University of Hartford. He is the recipient of numerous awards and citations for his social, civic and spiritual service. Davis is a Christian minister licensed by St. Luke Baptist Church, New York, NY.  His interdenominational ministry spans more than 35 years during which he has evangelized throughout the nation, leading thousands to the love of God through Christ Jesus.  For 20 years he has appeared on Christian television as a perennial host of “Praise the Lord" on the Trinity Broadcasting Network.  He has also hosted such notable gospel music specials as “Gospel Superfest”, “Take It to the Bridge”, “The Stellar Awards” and “The Black Achievement Awards”.  www.CliftonDavis.com New Album: “Never Can Say Goodbye” www.CliftonDavis.com/store Produced by On Air with Q

Erick Stakelbeck, News Correspondent for Trinity Broadcasting Network and host of The Watchman program, shared information about an April 17, 2023 special called, What is the Great Reset, examining the trend of globalism that is contrary to a Biblical worldview. You can learn more at tbn.org or the watchmantv.com. 

Erick Stakelbeck, News Correspondent for Trinity Broadcasting Network and host of The Watchman program, shared information about an April 17, 2023 special called, What is the Great Reset, examining the trend of globalism that is contrary to a Biblical worldview. You can learn more at tbn.org or the watchmantv.com. 

Dr. Lorraine Day presents findings of a conspiracy to destroy America and the world. Dr. Day is an internationally acclaimed orthopedic trauma surgeon and best selling author who was for 15 years on the faculty of the University of California, San Francisco, School of Medicine as Associate Professor and Vice Chairman of the Department of Orthopedics. She was also Chief of Orthopedic Surgery at San Francisco General Hospital and is recognized world-wide as an AIDS expert. She has been invited to lecture extensively throughout the U.S. and the world and has appeared on numerous radio and television shows including 60 minutes, Nightline, CNN Crossfire, Oprah Winfrey, Larry King Live, The 700 Club, John Ankerberg Show, USA Radio Network, Art Bell Radio Show, Three Angels Broadcasting Network and Trinity Broadcasting Network

MY NEW NORM Podcast- S3 E08GUEST: ROD BUTLEREPISODE: ROD THE PUPPET GUYIn this episode, you'll enter into the world of imagination and fun.The creativity gene definitely runs in my next guest's DNA.Known as Rod The Puppet Guy, Rod Butler, has been creating and performing live puppet shows for more than 40 years.His many talents have been seen and heard via National radio programs, TV commercials, seminars, hospitals, churches, and schools.Rod is also an author, creative writer, genuine friend and one of the kindest people you will ever meet. It's my honor to have him as today's guest.-ABOUT-Rod Butler grew up listening to the snapping keys of the typewriter as his father, John K. Butler wrote classic Westerns including My Pal Trigger and Silver Spurs starring Roy Rogers. Rod went on to fill books with poetry, stories, and cartoons, eventually writing for television, print, online, and radio. Rod's radio career includes creating and hosting the nationally syndicated Coconut Hut Radio Show, starring as Bongo Rod, Bob Dah Lobstah, Captain FlashLight, and other characters. He produced the animated series Boy + Dog for Daystar TV and Trinity Broadcasting Network and has written hundreds of educational scripts for Responsive Ed. Rod is also a children's minister and a professional puppeteer, on YouTube as Rod The Puppet Guy. He is married with three grown children and several trunk-loads of puppets.—————————————————ROD BUTLER'S NEW WEBSITE:www.filamentcity.com-ROD THE PUPPET GUY CHANNEL-Welcome to the exciting world of PUPPETS! Get ready to have fun as you learn to make a puppet from just about anything! And then gain the skills to bring that puppet to life.We'll cover simple and more complex puppet building, from stuff you probably already have around the house.But it doesn't stop with just making a puppet. You'll discover how to make a puppet act alive, and be funny, and perform puppet shows that people will love, and remember.YouTube Channel-https://youtu.be/88TsExtTKKEBOOK:In PAINTING THE WORLD GLAD, Rod Butler offers a collection of whimsical, thoughtful, and inspirational poetry for readers of all ages. Enjoy more than 80 poems that will encourage, entertain, and be sure to bring a smile.VIDEO- PAINTING THE WORLD GLAD:https://youtu.be/24mL9VMs54wPainting the World Glad: Fun-tastic Poems / AMAZON:https://a.co/d/bLCbR04BOOK:Low Voltage covers Filament City with goopy purple darkness! Now Captain FlashLight, Neoni, Blinkie, Professor Luminous, Glazer, Stell, and the PizzaBot will discover that no matter how hopeless it looks, LIGHT WILL ALWAYS CONQUER DARKNESS!The Captain's brilliant adventures are a wonderful way to teach children about being bright lights in a dark and hurting world.Darknetized: The Junior Novel / AMAZON:https://a.co/d/9y1545T------------------------------------------MY PAL TRIGGER- ROY ROGERShttps://youtu.be/4ZnNRqOuWzwROD BUTLER'S  WEBSITE:Visit his website: www.rodthepuppetguy.com.————————————————-—Now you can help support this podcast with as little as the price of a cup of coffee. Help support MY NEW NORM Podcast-Go to link below:https://ko-fi.com/mynewnormOne more thing, help us get the word out by sharing this podcast mynewnorm.buzzsprout.com/ / Find us on all major podcast formats!

Author and speaker Beth Moore is a dynamic teacher whose conferences take her across the globe. Beth founded Living Proof Ministries in 1994 with the purpose of encouraging women to know and love Jesus through the study of Scripture. She has written numerous bestselling books and Bible studies and can also be seen teaching Bible studies on the television program Living Proof with Beth Moore, aired on the Trinity Broadcasting Network. In her newest memoir, "All My Knotted-Up Life", Beth begins detailing her tumultuous childhood, experiences that impacted her youth, her rise as an influential Bible teacher and national ministry leader, and the upheavals that led to dramatic and unforeseen changes in the life she had come to know. Follow Bob: @bobgoff Follow Beth: @bethmoorelpm Purchase Beth's memoir: tyndale.com/sites/allmyknotteduplife Learn more about Beth: bethmoore.org

Author and speaker Beth Moore is a dynamic teacher whose conferences take her across the globe. Beth founded Living Proof Ministries in 1994 with the purpose of encouraging women to know and love Jesus through the study of Scripture. She has written numerous bestselling books and Bible studies and can also be seen teaching Bible studies on the television program Living Proof with Beth Moore, aired on the Trinity Broadcasting Network. In her newest memoir, "All My Knotted-Up Life", Beth begins detailing her tumultuous childhood, experiences that impacted her youth, her rise as an influential Bible teacher and national ministry leader, and the upheavals that led to dramatic and unforeseen changes in the life she had come to know. Follow Bob: @bobgoff Follow Beth: @bethmoorelpm Purchase Beth's memoir: tyndale.com/sites/allmyknotteduplife Learn more about Beth: bethmoore.org

Christian musical artist Matthew West, in advance of the special, My Story, Your Glory with Matthew West at the Ryman, shared about the concept of the album, My Story, Your Glory, and previewed some aspects of the special, airing on Trinity Broadcasting Network on February 10, 2023. The TBN site is tbn.org; his website is matthewwest.com.

Christian musical artist Matthew West, in advance of the special, My Story, Your Glory with Matthew West at the Ryman, shared about the concept of the album, My Story, Your Glory, and previewed some aspects of the special, airing on Trinity Broadcasting Network on February 10, 2023. The TBN site is tbn.org; his website is matthewwest.com.

The Prophetic Almanac for 2023  Pastor Bill Jenkins pt 1 Well, 2022 has been an interesting and a trying year. We've seen Christianity attacked in this nation like never before. We've seen politicians just, basically, surrendering the sovereignty of this nation. We've seen natural disasters on a scale that, some say, has not happened for hundreds, if not a thousand years. But, for believers, this is not a time of doom and gloom!  Far from it. We are told by Jesus in Luke 21:28 that “When these things begin to take place, look up, for your redemption is drawing near!”  Amen! With all that is happening, wouldn't it be nice to have a peek at what is going to happen in the next year or so?  It takes someone with a special gift from God to be able to do that without sounding like a soothsayer or a nut job, right! It take someone anointed by God with this gift to lay things out in a logical format.  And that is what my guest will do today! Our guest today is Pastor Bill Jenkins of the Destinyland Christian Center in Rancho Cucuamonga, California. Every year, he releases a new book titled, “The Prophetic Almanac.” If you have ever heard of the “The Farmer's Almanac,” well the “Prophetic Almanac” is the Spiritual equivalent that will release a spiritual vision for your personal life and it gives a prophetic forecast for our nation. Amen! Pastor Bill Jenkins is a 1991 graduate from Christ for the Nations in Dallas, Texas, my old stomping grounds for a few years... He has been in ministry for 30 years. He also had his own Television Program on the Trinity Broadcasting Network - and has hosted the “Praise the Lord” program a few times as well. AMEN! He has written numerous books and has become known as a modern day Apostle of God with a prophetic voice. He and his wife, Britain, work extremely hard to release the message of HOPE into our world (and very needful, for such a time as this, I might add). Pastor Jenkins takes some of the toughest passages of scripture and explains them in a practical and interesting way. He is quickly becoming the “Go To” guy when it comes to Biblical interpretation. He also has had a radio program on “Evangelism Radio” for several years. His program runs Monday through Friday from 10-1030am Eastern Time. Every year, about this time, I ask Pastor Bill to come back on and share with us his insights from the Word of God as he talks about the new issue of “The Prophetic Almanac” as it relates to the coming year. And that is what we will be talking about today as we leave a very hectic and chaotic 2022 behind and are moving forward into 2023. Help me welcome back to the program, Pastor Bill Jenkins. Pastor, thank you for taking the time to visit with us today! Pastor, for those that may be new to the program and have not heard our interviews before, can you share with us in your own words, “Who is Pastor Bill Jenkins?” Pastor, how long have you been publishing “The Prophetic Almanac?” Before we get into 2023, let's recap a bit from 2022… Last year, on our program, you said there was going to be things exposed that have been kept secret for ages. Did that happen this year that was referenced in your 2022 edition? I can't remember if

Dr Charles Stanley teaching on controling our thoughts as Christians. Perfect practice makes perfect. We must continue daily to seek God and his word and make a decision to think different according to the word and Spirit of God. Network (INSP) and Trinity Broadcasting Network. Stanley's sermons, along with other audio and video programming, are available on the In Touch website. 

Erick Stakelbeck, News Correspondent for Trinity Broadcasting Network and host of The Watchman program, shared information about State of the Nation: A TBN Town Hall, offering a panel discussion and audience participation regarding issues confronting the nation and Biblical solutions. You can learn more at tbn.org or thewatchmantv.com. 

Erick Stakelbeck, News Correspondent for Trinity Broadcasting Network and host of The Watchman program, shared information about State of the Nation: A TBN Town Hall, offering a panel discussion and audience participation regarding issues confronting the nation and Biblical solutions. You can learn more at tbn.org or thewatchmantv.com. 

10 - Rise of globalism presents challenges for Christians      Jim Garlow - Well Versed9 - Participation of biological males in girls' sports advances, yet challenged      Christiana Kiefer - Alliance Defending Freedom8 - Pro-life centers face violence in light of Dobbs ruling      James Harden - CompassCare Pregnancy Services7 - Christian ministries respond to suffering in Ukraine      Don Parsons - Mission Eurasia6 - New Methodist denomination forms, churches depart United Methodist Church      Lester Spencer - St. James Church (Montgomery, AL)/AL-West FL Chapter of Wesleyan Covenant Association      Keith Boyette - Global Methodist Church5 - Mid-term elections provide clear challenges & choices for Christians      Erick Stakelbeck - The Watchman, Trinity Broadcasting Network4 - Lawmakers affirm “same-sex marriage,” endanger religious freedom      Mary Beth Waddell - Family Research Council3 - Visibility about harm from gender treatment and surgeries grows      Brandon Showalter - The Christian Post2 - Religious freedom victories at SCOTUS include vindication for football coach praying at midfield after games      Stephanie Taub - First Liberty1 - US Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade      Chuck Donovan - Charlotte Lozier Institutemeetinghouseonline.info

10 - Rise of globalism presents challenges for Christians      Jim Garlow - Well Versed9 - Participation of biological males in girls' sports advances, yet challenged      Christiana Kiefer - Alliance Defending Freedom8 - Pro-life centers face violence in light of Dobbs ruling      James Harden - CompassCare Pregnancy Services7 - Christian ministries respond to suffering in Ukraine      Don Parsons - Mission Eurasia6 - New Methodist denomination forms, churches depart United Methodist Church      Lester Spencer - St. James Church (Montgomery, AL)/AL-West FL Chapter of Wesleyan Covenant Association      Keith Boyette - Global Methodist Church5 - Mid-term elections provide clear challenges & choices for Christians      Erick Stakelbeck - The Watchman, Trinity Broadcasting Network4 - Lawmakers affirm “same-sex marriage,” endanger religious freedom      Mary Beth Waddell - Family Research Council3 - Visibility about harm from gender treatment and surgeries grows      Brandon Showalter - The Christian Post2 - Religious freedom victories at SCOTUS include vindication for football coach praying at midfield after games      Stephanie Taub - First Liberty1 - US Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade      Chuck Donovan - Charlotte Lozier Institutemeetinghouseonline.info

Erick Stakelbeck, News Correspondent for Trinity Broadcasting Network and host of The Watchman program, offered analysis and commentary in the aftermath of the 2022 mid-term elections from a Christian worldview perspective. He also highlighted the TBN special, Restoring America, which aired the night before Election Day and is now widely available. You can learn more at tbn.org or thewatchmantv.com. 

Erick Stakelbeck, News Correspondent for Trinity Broadcasting Network and host of The Watchman program, offered analysis and commentary in the aftermath of the 2022 mid-term elections from a Christian worldview perspective. He also highlighted the TBN special, Restoring America, which aired the night before Election Day and is now widely available. You can learn more at tbn.org or thewatchmantv.com. 

Episode Summary:  Lee Ann Mancini and I talk about raising children to have a strong foundation in Jesus. It's her passion to equip parents with valuable resources so they can raise their children to have a strong foundation in Jesus—the only foundation that will last. This is such an important topic given the world we live in and the influences our children are under. We talk about how to help kids with bullying, why forgiveness is important, why kids are walking away from their faith and more. Quotables from the episode: I see how children are walking away from their faith – first priority is the salvation of our children and the preservation of Christianity. Kids are leaving home and being influence by a humanistic perspective from their professors and peers. The enemy of our soul and our children's souls likes to attack at the foundation. We need to give our children spiritual meat, not mild. If our children don't have a solid foundation in Jesus by the age of 10, they are significantly more likely to walk away from their faith. I believe His will for me is to equip all who are raising the next generation to have a strong foundation in Jesus that will last a lifetime. Don't look at the world and have despair – With God's help, we can overcome. God's word tells us the whole narrative, and we only need to walk in faith and spiritual sight. Your kids will reflect the mirror of your character. Our children are our future. We need to rely on the Holy Spirit for their transformation and do all we can to teach them the ways of the Lord. One of the most important things we can teach our children is how to forgive each other. Play is the highest form of science and education for our children. Make today the day that you decide what is most important for raising our children to have a strong foundation in Jesus.  Scripture References: Deuteronomy 6:4-9 NIV: Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. 5Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. 6 These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. 7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 9 Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates. Psalm 78:5-6 NIV: He decreed statutes for Jacob and established the law in Israel, which he commanded our ancestors to teach their children, so the next generation would know them, even the children yet to be born, and they in turn would tell their children. Psalm 51:6 NIV: Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb; you taught me wisdom in that secret place. Recommended Resources:  What a Bragger!: Adventures of the Sea Kids by Lee Ann Mancini Forever With Jesus by Lee Ann Mancini A Servant Like Jesus: Adventures Of the Sea Kids by Lee Ann Mancini God's Gift: Adventures of the Sea Kids by Lee Ann Mancini God's Easter Miracles: Adventures of the Sea Kids by Lee Ann Mancini I'm Not Afraid: Adventures of the Sea Kids by Lee Ann Mancini 8 Great Smarts: Discover and Nurture Your Child's Intelligences by Kathy Koch, Ph.D.  Five to Thrive: How to Determine if Your Core Needs Are Being Met by Kathy Koch, Ph.D. Start with the Heart: How to Motivate Your Kids to Be Compassionate, Responsible, and Brave (Even When You're Not Around) by Kathy Koch, Ph.D. Screens and Teens: Connecting with Our Kids in a Wireless World by Kathy Koch, Ph.D. Say Goodbye to Whining, Complaining, and Bad Attitudes…in You and Your Kids by Scott Turansky  Parenting is Heart Work by Scott Turansky Good and Angry: Exchanging Frustration for Character in You and Your Kids! by Scott Turansky  Motivate Your Child: A Christian Parent's Guide to Raising Kids Who Do What They Need to Do Without Being Told by Scott Turansky The Christian Parenting Handbook: 50 Heart-Based Strategies for All the Stages of Your Child's Life by Scott Turansky Toddlers on the Move: Parenting Wisdom for Ages 12-36 Months by Scott Turansky  No More Perfect Kids: Love Your Kids for Who They Are by Jill Savage The Grumble-Free Year: Twelve Months, Eleven Family Members, and One Impossible Goal by Tricia Goyer Calming Angry Kids: Help and Hope for Parents in the Whirlwind by Tricia Goyer BiblicalParentingUniversity.com How to Overcome Grumbling, Complaining, and General Negativity – Episode 64 Trusting God Through Cancer 1 Trusting God Through Cancer 2 Revive & Thrive Women's Conference Subdue Stress and Anxiety: Fifteen Experts Offer Comprehensive Tools in Ten Minutes a Day. Use my link plus discount code BENG99 to save $90 on course (course will be $99.) Free Download: How To Fight Fearful/Anxious Thoughts and Win Breaking Anxiety's Grip: How to Reclaim the Peace God Promises by Dr. Michelle Bengtson Breaking Anxiety's Grip Free Study Guide  Free 7-Day YouVersion Bible Reading Plan for Breaking Anxiety's Grip Hope Prevails: Insights from a Doctor's Personal Journey Through Depression by Dr. Michelle Bengtson, winner of the Christian Literary Award Reader's Choice Award Hope Prevails Bible Study by Dr. Michelle Bengtson, winner of the Christian Literary Award Reader's Choice Award Social Media Links for Host and Guest: Connect with Lee Ann Mancini: Raising Christian Kids Facebook / Facebook Group / Instagram / Podcast / Website Sea Kids Facebook / Instagram Order Book Breaking Anxiety's Grip / Order Book Hope Prevails  /  Website  /  Blog  /  Facebook / Twitter (@DrMBengtson)  /  LinkedIn  /  Instagram / Pinterest / YouTube Guest: Lee Ann hosts the award-winning Raising Christian Kids podcast, which can be found on all major platforms, including CounterCultureMom.com, Pray.com, and Edifi.app. Raising Christian Kids is a five to ten-minute podcast that equips and empowers parents, grandparents, teachers, and all who are raising the next generation to have a strong foundation in Jesus. Lee Ann also has an informative webinar presentation that highlights her research and biblical knowledge in this area. “It is first about the salvation of the children and then about the preservation of Christianity.” There is truth to the adage, “The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world!” Lee Ann is an award-winning Christian children's author and Executive Producer of the new animation series Sea Kids, which can be seen on Trinity Broadcasting Network, Pure Flix, Right Now Media, and SeaKidsTv.com.   Lee Ann Mancini received a B.A. in Biblical and Theological Studies from Regent University, a Master's degree in Theological Studies from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School (Trinity International University), and two Master's degrees from Knox Theological Seminary in Biblical and Theological Studies and Christian and Classical Studies. She is a professor at South Florida Bible College and Theological Seminary teaching Apologetics, Romans, Ministerial Ethics, Prison Epistles, and The Bride of Christ. She holds a board position with South Florida Bible College & Theological. She also holds a board position with the Alexandrian Forum, under the tutelage of Dr. Warren Gage Th.M., J.D., Ph.D., an organization seeking to bring a greater understanding of the Bible by hosting annual Typology Conferences in South Florida dedicated to the theme of Christ as the center of scripture. Her God-given mission and desire are to serve all who are raising the next generation of Christians by preparing the soil to be rich from the womb to age three in which to plant the seeds that grow deep roots from ages four to ten. Hosted By: Dr. Michelle Bengtson Audio Technical Support: Bryce Bengtson

INTRODUCTION: Stuart Delony is a storyteller, seeker, sojourner, question-asker, and provocateur. He's a former pastor and the creator and host of Snarky Faith Radio, a podcast for the spiritually disenfranchised.Stuart has a Masters of Global Leadership from Fuller Theological Seminary andlives in Chapel Hill, NC with his wife and kids. INCLUDED IN THIS EPISODE (But not limited to):  ·      The Insanity In Christianity ·      How Pastors Are Like Drug Dealers·      The Simplicity Of Jesus Christ·      God Is Pro-Choice·      Jesus Loves Broke Bitches!!!·      Shitty Seminaries ·      The Lord Speaks To Us Through Movies·      Lakewood Church Shade·      The Production That Is “Church Service” ·      The Marriage Of Church & State CONNECT WITH STUART: Website: https://www.SnarkyFaith.comFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/stuartdelonyInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/stuartdelony/ STUART'S RECOMMENDATIONS: In God We Trump: https://vimeo.com/234002024 CONNECT WITH DE'VANNON: Website: https://www.SexDrugsAndJesus.comWebsite: https://www.DownUnderApparel.comYouTube: https://bit.ly/3daTqCMFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/SexDrugsAndJesus/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sexdrugsandjesuspodcast/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TabooTopixLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/devannonPinterest: https://www.pinterest.es/SexDrugsAndJesus/_saved/Email: DeVannon@SexDrugsAndJesus.com  DE'VANNON'S RECOMMENDATIONS: ·      Pray Away Documentary (NETFLIX)o  https://www.netflix.com/title/81040370o  TRAILER: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk_CqGVfxEs ·      OverviewBible (Jeffrey Kranz)o  https://overviewbible.como  https://www.youtube.com/c/OverviewBible ·      Hillsong: A Megachurch Exposed (Documentary)o  https://press.discoveryplus.com/lifestyle/discovery-announces-key-participants-featured-in-upcoming-expose-of-the-hillsong-church-controversy-hillsong-a-megachurch-exposed/ ·      Leaving Hillsong Podcast With Tanya Levino  https://leavinghillsong.podbean.com  ·      Upwork: https://www.upwork.com·      FreeUp: https://freeup.net VETERAN'S SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS ·      Disabled American Veterans (DAV): https://www.dav.org·      American Legion: https://www.legion.org ·      What The World Needs Now (Dionne Warwick): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHAs9cdTqg  INTERESTED IN PODCASTING OR BEING A GUEST?: ·      PodMatch is awesome! This application streamlines the process of finding guests for your show and also helps you find shows to be a guest on. The PodMatch Community is a part of this and that is where you can ask questions and get help from an entire network of people so that you save both money and time on your podcasting journey.https://podmatch.com/signup/devannon  TRANSCRIPT: [00:00:00]You're listening to the sex drugs and Jesus podcast, where we discuss whatever the fuck we want to! And yes, we can put sex and drugs and Jesus all in the same bed and still be all right at the end of the day. My name is De'Vannon and I'll be interviewing guests from every corner of this world as we dig into topics that are too risqué for the morning show, as we strive to help you understand what's really going on in your life.There is nothing off the table and we've got a lot to talk about. So let's dive right into this episode.De'Vannon: Stewart Delony is a fun and beautiful man. He is the host of the Snarky Faith Radio podcast. Stewart has himself a master of global leadership from Fuller Theological Seminary. And he worked for over 20 years in ministry. Now, in this episode, we about to shred modern day Christianity and read them for all the filth they damn well deserve.And as always, I will be throwing all the shade at [00:01:00] Lakewood Church because they deserve it more than most. I hope y'all enjoy.Hello, all my beautiful souls out there and welcome back to the Sex Drugs in Jesus podcast. I'm super excited as I always am. Everyone says that before every fucking show. So anyway, I hope this one is like super badass and we're gonna talk a lot about Jesus and, and those damn Christian people who seem to have attached to themselves, to him for some bizarre, unbeknownst reason today.Have Stewart Dani with me. He's the host of the Snarky Faith Podcast, Lion Ash Radio Show. And it is pretty snarky, . I do have to say something myself, Stewart, how you are? How, how are you today? Stuart: I'm great, Danna and I, I'm excited to be here hanging out with you and talking about all sorts of stuff today.De'Vannon: All sorts [00:02:00] of things. And so I remember whether the I had discovered as you add or how, I don't know, I'd just be on the internet digging up shit. And somehow I came across, maybe I did like a religious search on Apple or something. And then I came across your podcast, Snarky Faith. And then I looked at some of the show, show titles and everything like that.And I was just, just as fascinated as I could be. So just to read, we're gonna actually talk about your podcast towards the end of the show because we wanna talk about a couple of documentaries first. But I do wanna read the description you have for your podcast just as a little titty teaser for my beautiful audience.And so, and that quote, Stewart Snarky Faith is a space where we ire ire. Haven't had my wine today. Ire wrestle through life, culture and spiritu realities. It is a skewing of religion and culture today. The questions are even, [00:03:00] answers are never the point. It's all about the conversation in the quote, and we'll jump back on that later.So one of your major themes that I came across for you is this, you've coined this term the insanity in Christianity, and I'm just wondering what that means Stuart: to you. Well part of it has to do with, with a bit of my past too, if I was, I was raised in the south. I was raised in, in, in, around the Atlanta metro area, was raised around conservative Christianity for the most part, and then for some odd reason, decided to get into ministry for a number of years.I was, I worked like 20 years in church ministry and. Began, the further I was working in there was just began to see just the weird, crazy dysfunction. Like, like the, the idea that there is the stuff that Jesus talks about and then there's the stuff that like Christians [00:04:00] talk about in politics and those two things, those don't really match up at all.And you know, and so that just started kind of ticking me off over the while of being able to say, Wait a second. I know you guys have Jesus bumper stickers or T-shirts, but nothing about what you're doing. Seems like you understand the simple teachings of Jesus. So yes, my job a lot of times I feel like is to be able to point out the insanity, to be able to say that's not what Karate's talked about.Mm-hmm. , it's just a lot of American Christianity, . De'Vannon: Right. And that is our task because, you know, our market is not, I feel like I could speak for you when I say this. You know, our market is not. The church. Mm-hmm. , it's not church people. Our marketer are people who are considering their path and pondering at whose minds have a risk of being overthrown.By the way, Christianity is branded, especially here in the States. And so when people like us rise [00:05:00] up and go, there's another approach to God, you know, this, this fooly that that we're seeing play out before our eyes isn't him. And so I don't want people to actually believe that this is all God is reduced to his evangelical and Republican philandering, you know, and cocaine ORs and whatever the hell else they do.I don't judge it for the cocaine orgies, Mr. Matt Gates and you know, Mr. Wannabe speaker of the house. Cause I've had a few of those myself. But I wasn't judging people , Stuart: you know, you weren't oppressing people for the things that you were doing. Which that ticks me off like more than anything. It does, It does it.I, I've never understood that. So for people to kind of, and that's a weird part about Christianity, I think that the, for lack of a better term, the inbred nature of a lot of the, the thought processes that go on within there, I, I think it keeps people in a space where they feel like they have to keep coming back.Where they feel like it's, you know, [00:06:00] either fear or shame or whatever keeps you coming back. Even though probably every bit of the logic in your brain is saying, This place is crazy. We gotta get out. But somehow you just leave that door open, put you don't know what God's doing, which is a recipe for abuse, , anytime you kind of enter that into it yeah.De'Vannon: Yeah. Yeah, those are the dangling carrots, you know, the vague promises. You know, it's like when I was a drug dealer, I wasn't a shady ass drug dealer, but I hung around a bunch of shady ass drug dealers. Mm-hmm. . And that's how you always get people, you know, like, Oh, this is gonna be the best thing, you know, all these promises, or, Give me your money and I'll come back with even more than what I've, you know, more doped than what I have right now.You know, Just let me borrow this. Let me hold onto it for a second. You know, it's the same Stuart: energy. Oh, I've been around some shady ass pastor, so I, I totally agree. That is . That is the exact same energy . De'Vannon: Then I heard you say the S word when you were referring to Jesus' [00:07:00] ministry, which is simple. Mm-hmm.and, and so I just wanted to echo that cuz I always like to remind people that it was a remarkable thing and one of the gospels and it was talking about how Jesus taught with such simplicity. Mm-hmm. , you know, I find it remarkable because they, they couldn't write everything down in the Bible or, or even the scribes of the day.They couldn't literally account for everything in the whole day. They only wrote down what stood out to them. So the fact that Jesus' ministry being like, chill was noteworthy, just lets, lets me know that the the Republicans of his day, , the Pharisees and the sades were being really, really extra. Yeah.You know, because there, there was a contrast there. Jesus wasn't showboating and causing a whole scene except for when he threw over the temple, which I, you know, I'm with him on that. Mm-hmm. and you know, so Jesus was chilling. So when we look at, you know, Republicans, evangelicals you know, people who tout the name [00:08:00] Christianity and how hard they come for, for people, you know, they're being, you know, the exact opposite of how Christ was very humble and meek, he spoke his word, but he didn't, by no means go around trying to force it upon people.Mm-hmm. . And so he never did that. And so I just wanted to talk about the simplicity of the Lord. Stuart: Yes. And, and even in that regard, like if you don't talk about, even about the simplicity of scripture, one of the ideas, core ideas of scripture is choice. In the Bible, you know, allowing people to have choice, which is really funny because Republicans don't like to allow people to have choices to be able to go and do stuff.But that's very, very central to really a lot of the narrative of scriptures in the Bible is that God gives people the opportunity to do stuff. God doesn't compulsively make people do things like Republicans want to do and are doing in certain places right now too, which is terrifying. Yeah, The, I believe they do it in the name of Jesus, which is also sickening De'Vannon: too , when anybody can pick [00:09:00] up the name of Jesus and go trotting down the street with it.I know where people have to get is that, you know, when the Bible talks about woo and sheep's clothing, it has to be somebody, when the Bible talks about the hypocrites and stuff like that, it has to be somebody. Every generation has people who claim to be of God and are not, and people who say one thing and do the opposite, it happens everywhere.So in our day and time, I believe that that is our Republican party and. The Evangelical party and people who, who don't seem to have a problem with what Republicans are doing. Mm-hmm. . So this is our, these are our Pharisees right now. Stuart: Oh, absolutely. Because Christ talks a lot about, I mean, there, there is so much that is like anti empire and anti-establishment in what Jesus is talking about, about the structures of power of the time.And it's funny to be able to see where we see like a lot of conservative Christians running, We want more power in government, we want more power, we want more of the empire. And that whole thing was antithetical to everything Jesus was talking [00:10:00] about. He was trying to talk about whole different system of power and a whole dis different system of living, but some of them didn't get the memo apparently.Mm. De'Vannon: They can't because, you know, as the Lord said, if he were to open their eyes and they would see, and he would open their hearts and they would hear, and they would feel they would be human and they would be converted, but he has not given them the kingdom. And, you know, whoever the, whoever the hypocrites of the day are, are never, ever gonna see fault in themselves because it's always gonna be a problem with what someone else is doing.Mm-hmm. because their minds have been overthrown in a, in a and that makes life harder for everyone else. But yeah, I choose to believe that the problems that they bring up on our lives are, they're to strengthen us because it's gotta be something if it's not them and there's gonna be the bitch next door or the bitch at the grocery store, , we gonna always have motherfucker somewhereSo, so we can't escape. And so, but it is [00:11:00] about choice. And Deuteronomy, you know, in the Old Testament, the Lord is always trying to give Israel a choice. Choose, choose you this day who you're going to serve, but I'm not going to force you. I hope you pick me, is what God is saying. But he never, ever, ever, ever was forceful.And my favorite example of Jesus being anti-establishment, if you will. Entire rich people was when the, the lady came in with only the two mites and all the rich people were in there making it rain. And, you know, he didn't compliment them, he didn't say anything good about them. The person who made him stop in his tracks was the broke bitch.Mm-hmm. , you know, the, the, the, the bitch bleeding from her pussy. You know, I met respectfully ladies and and I realized how that sounded when I said, Stuart: You mean it in love. You mean it in love. That's De'Vannon: all love. And so, so, you know, you know, the broken people or the people who stood out to him, but in this is the town people wanna talk about the richest pastors, the richest people in [00:12:00] the world.This is not how God is. Stuart: No. No, and that's, and again, like circling back to the simplicity, it really just goes back to like, how are you loving people? in your area, like in your own sphere? Like, do you love your neighbor? Do you love the, those that aren't nice to you? I mean, they're really simple things in many ways that will change how you walk.That'll change how you even like look within yourself when you're actually learning to deal with other people. Seeing your own junk when you see other people's junk. And then, you know, the hope is that it makes you way, way, way more compassionate moving forward as you engage with other people. But at the same time, yeah, sometimes it's too simple for Christianity.We need to make it into some sort of a thing where we're drawing a line in the sand and the, these are going to hell, these are going to heaven. And when they always draw the line, the line's always on their side. Mm-hmm. De'Vannon: So, so how you went to seminary? Which seminary [00:13:00] was it again? Stuart: I went to a Fuller Theological Seminary.It's it's mainly in Pasadena, but they have a few other campuses. De'Vannon: Yeah. Cause I thought I remember like World Campus or something like that in there somewhere. But I went to seminary too. I left, I didn't stay long, just only a few semesters because the the guy who taught law, he just one day he was like, Yeah, we, we really like to control people in the church and everything like that.And oh my God, I was the only person in class who was like, I don't think we should be controlling , you know? Yes. Yes. I don't think we should be doing that. And, you know, and I did a double take, you know, and I asked him, you know, the fuck you. You know, I was speaking more similarly and the aloud. Stuart: Of course, of course, of course.But that's the trans, that's the translation of . De'Vannon: Yeah. In, in, in the Greek. That's the translation. Yeah. The fuck you say. [00:14:00] And he just like, he was like, Yeah, we wanna control people in the church. And he said it as casually as there's clouds in the sky. And everyone else in the class was nodding along with him besides me, and I was like, Oh, hell no.Mm-hmm. , I got to go . Stuart: So, Oh, I, I've had moments like that too. This was, I mean, this wasn't, I mean, I appre for me, I, I enjoyed the seminary I went to for the different viewpoints. It pushed on me. I enjoyed, See, I'm a person, I don't know if I'm just like a intellectual status, but I don't mind being wrong in my head,So if there's like new information out there, I don't mind messing around with it. But watching other pastors like lose their mind. Like when certain professors would tell them scripture in this way or this way. Like, Oh, you know what, if the creation story is not literal and then you watch a bunch of other guys just heads blow up at that moment.But, but you're right. I've been in other places, not at my seminary, but when I've been to different conferences and stuff where I've heard back when I was a church planter, like heard people talking about gathering [00:15:00] people together. If you're planting a church and those people don't worry too much about them, they're scaffolding on the building that you're kind of really trying to set up here.So they're just useful tools and if they leave, that's fine, but they're, and hearing that, it's the most dehumanizing thing that I've ever heard about people, especially from a perspective of we're starting a church. People that you're gonna start it with, ah, it don't matter that much, but they'll be useful idiots for a while.And, and, and, and that's just what gets me so much about Jesus is that Christ saw the humanity in people. Price didn't see them as, as marks or numbers or, or any of this stuff. And it, it's just gross. It's gross in so many ways how Christianity has become in this way. De'Vannon: I think some people start off corrupt like that, and I think some of them start off with the best of intentions, but money and power corrupt some slowly, gradually over time.Much like the ring did Smiggle in the Lord of the Rings. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think that cinema and, and all these shows we watch are just [00:16:00] entertainment. I really think that the Lord is speaking through us through these things. The slow corruption of Ankin Skywalker, the Vader. You know, I don't, I don't, I think that this sort of stuff happens in people in real life, although they're not running around shooting electricity outta their hands and forgot and disappearing when they put a ring on.You know? But you know, what does disappear? You know who you used to be? You know, by the time Ankin is Vader and by time, by the time Smiggle is Gollum, that old person is, you know, their original more pure form is no more. And they can't even tell you the point which they changed cuz it happened so subtly.Mm. But in their mind, they still feel like they're just as justified today as Vader and Gollum as they were when they were Ankin and Smiggle. Mm-hmm with everyone else who has a problem. . Stuart: So, No, you're right, you're right. And I've been in places where like, yes, it feels like to stay on this track it means I'll have to lose a part of my soul or have to swallow part of who I am to in order to remain here.And that was, that was a learning curve for me cuz I'd worked for a, I [00:17:00] worked as a missionary for a while and I was on the leadership board of their organization and I was the guy that was always pushing back against what they were doing. And so for a season of life, I was like, Oh, I'm doing God's work.I'm trying to push back and give a different perspective. And then after a while you begin to realize, no, I'm just really being a pain in the ass to them, and they really don't want me around anymore because my perspective is too challenging to what they're talking about. And at this point, I probably just need to gracefully exit because it's just, you know, there's that idea of Yeah, am I helping or am I just a pain of the ass?And at some places, if you're a pain of the ass, you're just gonna leave. De'Vannon: Right? And, you know, church is just like a lot of Yes. Men around them and, and stuff like that, which is something I'm, I believe I have in my notes here too. You know, well, I'll just say now, you know, you know these churches, they surround themselves with people who agree like them and they think like them.And so they don't really wanna be challenged. But the danger of that is if you're not, if you don't have opposing [00:18:00] viewpoint, You keep hearing all of these yeses and you begin to think that you're right when you objectify people like that and you think that you're right. Well, whatever it is that you do, Cause ain't nobody telling you no.Mm-hmm. . Stuart: So I'm, And, but there's, there's a danger in folks just in the audience, just a similarly, like for people in the congregations, effectively taking their brains out when they hang out in church and being like, Yeah, whatever he said, I agree with it. I have no idea how he got to these points. You know, his theology's already been predigested and he's giving it to me, so sure, I'll take it.Even though we don't, like, there's not that whole like, internal process of learning and growing and it, we just end up almost taking the regurgitated vomit like a mama spitting into a, a baby bird's mouth. I, I feel like that happens at church way too much. And I just think that would taste terrible. So and so I, I, yeah, it, it pushes back on just the fact that we've taught people, like you'd mentioned to keep under control and we've taught them to not really question.[00:19:00]And just listen and agree. And that's also incredibly dangerous when PO folks are at a position where they just agree with what the pastor's always De'Vannon: saying. And I used to be that, that guy, honestly, I think the vomit from the mama bird would be more nutrition than no more nutrition. That's true. That's true.Than what these pastors bullshit is spewing out. Mm-hmm. . But I used to be that person. I would hear something I didn't agree with and I would say, Okay, he's up there, so I'm gonna change my mind to what he said rather than to critique him. Yeah. So or as, as I learned and when I was getting my hypnotist certification, that's called hypnotizing people and using it in a negative way.Mm-hmm. . So but I'm reminded, I wanna throw a little bit of shade at Lakewood Church since I used to be a member. Stuart: Okay, let's do it. I game for that De'Vannon: before they kicked me out for not being straight. And so and you know, so I know Joel gets on TV and acts like he's all [00:20:00] nice and everything, but behind the scenes they have policies and effect that really, really hurt and damage people.Yeah. So in terms of objectifying people, while when I was volunteering in the kids' ministry there. I walked back into the office one day and I heard the leader of the kids' department saying something like about the volunteers, the effect of like, you know, we're smarter than them, we get to he was talking to the staff about the volunteers who were not in the room.I was a high level volunteer and so I was, I was given a lot of access to stuff, but he was saying like, you know, basically we're really clever. We're gonna use these volunteers to work ourselves out of a job. You know, thumbs up kind of thing. He, he, he, and that didn't set well with me, but it was, no, it was on those situations where I was like, I'm gonna show grace and mercy.No place gonna be perfect. I'm just gonna go ahead and overlook that. You know? And I wish I hadn't done that. It, it's, Stuart: it's, it's funny cuz I'll, I'll do the same thing where like, I replay this in my head, [00:21:00]but, you know, if you would've been like, Excuse me. What about this does anyone realize this is pretty fucked up right now?I think no one would've said anything and that you, you would've been just escorted outta the building and that would be the end of it. Because again, yeah, you have a bunch of Yes. Men or sheep or people that just go along with it because it sounds good and it, and, and because of course it's a church, so of course God's part of it.Right, right. And I feel like that's the assumption a lot of times. And it just creates a lot, a lot of baggage. De'Vannon: I'm gonna throw a little bit more shade at them though, though. This is, this is cause this is another form of censorship that they do. Mm-hmm. . So I saw this woman catch the Holy Ghost one time when I was in the main sanctuary at Lakewood.And look, I get some people fake dancing in the spirit. Some people don't believe in it at all. Okay. And some, sometimes it's real. I've had that experience like maybe less than five times, four or five times in my whole life. I've never been this sort of person that, you know, Sister Sally [00:22:00] every day on Sunday at exactly 1115 here she go down the aisle.No. If it's going. It's gonna happen. It's gonna have to be like legitimate. So sometimes it's real, sometimes it's not. This woman was, this was real, and now she's in the largest church in America in the middle of, I'm pretty sure it was probably like the 11:00 AM service, the largest service. But this other fucking matter cuz all the services are huge.Mm-hmm. , I'm like, this girl caught the holy goes down in the front, you know, I guess maybe like 20, 20, 25 rows back, maybe 15 or 20 rows back from the front, which is like nothing in a place that big. Sure. But she got up in the spirit was moving her and the ushers kicked her out, . And I thought like, this was another one of those moments that I was like, Okay, I don't like this, but I guess I should overlook it.I'm all like, how you gonna censor the spirit in the middle of the church? I don't. [00:23:00] I don't, Stuart: Well, that, that's one of the things that, that, that grabbed me early on in when I was working in ministry is that it's, it's a production, you know, that Sunday morning is a production and it's about like eliminating any mess.It's about eliminating like anything that would get in the way of the production, which, which is really kind of sick and twisted if you really think deeply about that. Because if, if God is trying to reach out to humans and we're all messed up , we've all got shit and, and we're all messy. But I think that like ministry, if you're actually doing ministry with God, I mean, it's going to be messy because we're messy and that's okay.Cuz God knows what we're messy and and I, I just find it weird when we tend to like whitewash our services into making themproductions or pageantry. De'Vannon: I couldn't said it better myself. And I always like to remind [00:24:00] people that when these people, your worship leaders, your pastors, and I use the word pastor loosely because I don't believe many of these people are even called I haven't heard any of their stories, of their true conversion when God met them and the books they write or never really about themselves.But remember I, you know, they're at work , you know, and just like most people when they go to work, they're being fake as hell and putting on whatever face they need to, to, to get the job done. I just wanted to throw that out there Stuart: and Well, and if you wanna throw out that, just, just a little addendum to what you're saying is that there are many pastors that write books that are ghost written as well.To where I've, I, I know I've known of hu few instances cuz I do have a friend that's a ghost writer where they'll just kind of give a bunch of ideas to a person, you know, like couple stories, couple things. And they're like, boo, go make it happen. So again, you're right, it's like this whole like Christian marketing complex that we kind of find ourselves under that's really just about De'Vannon: money.And there are [00:25:00] also regurgitated sermons too, because one of Joel's books I read, I know, I was like, I heard this in a sermon before. You know, it's just regurgitated sermon. It's a, it's a system. It's a, it's an equation that they have to constantly books like that. And, and I know that they're not writing them.I know. I know. Mm-hmm. . And so I put a note here about the war on drugs because of something that you said about like like government control. I felt like I was watching shit, I've consumed so many documentaries in the last, like I watched the, the new one on Netflix, How to Change Your Mind, where the guy's going over How he used like the me school and the cide bin and the MDMA and everything like that.And I watched the history of mental illnesses on pbs. And and it was interesting to find out how like, You know, the psychedelics were used and being like, studied in clinical settings, you know, Then the government wanted to control people cuz people started using the psychedelics and they didn't wanna fucking go to war, [00:26:00] you know?And then, then they, then they was like, Oh, we gotta stop this shit. So let's make these drugs schedule one narcotics, you know, in, and then let's put fear in everyone about the evils of what may happen, even though people weren't really doing anything evil. Mm-hmm. . And then I feel like the church locked arms with politicians back in those days.And then they started calling drugs the devil, you know, the spirit of Satan and everything like that. And I don't know, I just wanted worded what you thought about, you know, how deep the history of church people and politicians go and the, what they did to stifle America's impression of drugs. Stuart: That's a good question.I, I, I feel like that, I mean, it kind of circles back to what you'd mentioned earlier, that it all falls into some sort of a system of control. You know, if we're able to paint a line and be able to say, Oh, those in this tribe are good, but those that are outside of our tribe are bad. And, and they've done that on, on, on so many different social issues throughout the [00:27:00] years.And I mean, it's been alcohol, it's been, it's been like I, I worked, I, I was even attending a church, this is when I was a missionary, but I was attending a church in the a in an area, and I was like, Oh, you guys, I would love to just start doing a bar ministry. This is like 15 years ago, just going and hanging out with people and just talking to 'em, not trying to convert 'em, just talking to people in bars, just to be able to kind of break down walls.And they were like, you know, you can only do that as long as you're drinking a Coca-Cola or something else in that building. And I'm like, Wait, wait, I don't work here, but you guys know me and you do not want me to go and try to share stuff with people and just get to know people in bars because alcohol, I mean, again, I feel like that these are all scapegoats that, that we tend to demonize in so many different areas.I think that we've seen it, especially like recently, probably since at least 2020 ramping up of how the conservative right. Is finding like, I feel like we're back in the Satanic panic like 2.0 like back from the eighties when like there was [00:28:00] this whole like, ah, Satans everywhere and there's all these crazy things that I, I feel like we've just reinvented that cuz I grew up around some of that stupidity of the Satanic panic and, and I feel like this is just a new version of it or it's Yeah.A cue version of it now or some other craziness that they're adding to it. De'Vannon: Well, the devil isn't particularly creative man. He just tends to copy shit and repeat cycles. He's not really all that inventive. But if you, if you think about it, and that's why I believe in the book of Revelation when it says that when Satan's true form is like revealed and then the nation looked at him and was.Okay. Is this the nigga that was fucking with us this whole time? this little thing over here, reallyHe's not that impressive, you know, in terms of analyzing his mechanics, you know? Mm-hmm. , you know, is he powerful and shit? Yeah. But you know, like this, this is why, perfect [00:29:00] example, like a broke ass hustler who ain't got a penny to his damn name, can talk a smooth game and get a whole lot of money from people.I've seen it happen a thousand times when I was a drug dealer. They use what little, they have good looks, big dick or the reputation or whatever, but zero actual fucking thing of worth in terms of money. Yeah. And can get damn near anything they want, but really any shit. Mm-hmm. , Stuart: and even mentioning that, and I don't, I don't, this is, this is, this is your interview.I don't wanna go down any revolution, rabbit holes or anything like that too. But I also feel like that's one of the books of the Bible that is messed up. More people with bad interpretations and reading it. I literally, I, I was going before my, this is years back, but before my ordination hearing and they're grilling me on all these things.And some guy asked me and I didn't know him and I was an idiot, but he was like, Tell me about how do you feel about the end enzyme on the book of Revelation? And I was like, I feel that's probably done more damage to Christianity than anything in a while, because we focus [00:30:00] on the end and we don't pay attention to what's now in this.And depending on how you read it, some people read it exact, literally. Some people see it figuratively. Some people pick and choose between the two, which is a terrible way to read scripture, to hop between those two standpoint. But yes, I remember some guy got so mad at me, explain yourself, Why is this?Because I was like, Does it really matter? Does it matter what's gonna happen fully in the future if we're supposed to be digging in now towards loving people and kind of walking out the simplicity of Christ? Because sometimes if we focus too far in advance, I feel like it takes us away from the present.De'Vannon: Hm. Or as they, or as they say in the Pentecostal churches, you don't wanna be so heavenly minded that you ain't no earthly good. Amen.Oh my gosh. I really don't like the fact that I still have in me things from my church days. But, you know, I guess it wasn't all bad. Stuart: No, I, I, And I think that's, that's the hard [00:31:00] thing. I think that oftentimes when people go through, like deconstructing and walking through, processing out their faith, we can end up kind of feeling bad or ashamed of where we, we were.But I, I, for me at least, I've gone like, Okay, that's what I was raised around. I, it's taken me time to figure out which baggage is shit and which baggage needs to stay and, and, and kind of processing through all of that along the way, because there are nuggets that have happened, but by and large, there's probably like more dump truck loads that were.Not helpful, but, but I do think that's essential in the spiritual path of being able to, is being able to figure out, yeah, what can I take from this? What good can I take from this? And then let me flush the rest of it down the toilet. De'Vannon: Mm-hmm. . So speaking of putting on a production and a show, you had quite the quite the choice words for the the movie through the eyes of Miss Tammy Faye.Stuart: Oh, . Okay. That one. Okay. De'Vannon: Yes. . Now for those of you [00:32:00] don't know Tammy Faye Bacon, Miss Mr. Jim Baker. Were probably the most colorful people on television, especially over there at tbn back in the day. Stuart: back in the day, which became I think, yeah. But yeah, keep going. Yeah. De'Vannon: personally. I loved it. I loved the show because I like anything that exposes the foolishness of Yeah.Television ministry and the bullshit side of Christianity. You didn't like it though, so tell, talk, Stuart: give me your, Oh, my, my pushback on, on it was cuz I, I have, I have, I had a, I had a gullible mother who loved Televangelist and Jim and Tammy were on all of the time and those folks, and, and, and my only issue was with the movie.I think Tammy Faye figured stuff out and went on to do good stuff. I think the movie kind of gave her a free pass of being a part of this whole whatever that was, you know, the [00:33:00] cluster fuck of Christianity that was going on. That was ptl. And, and I just, I, I thought some of it film wise was just a little.I wish they would've dialed down on some of the bigger stuff because there was, there was abuse like supposedly. I mean, I don't, I don't think they even hint on the fact that Jim Bakkers been accused of raping someone as well too. And so there's, there's a bunch of weirdness surrounding that and just trying to glaze our way out towards the end.That's what kind of left me with a bad taste in my mouth cuz I remember, I remember a lot of that and, and I do, like, I, I, I appreciate how Tammy Faye changed and how she changed stuff within it, but at the same time I thought the filmmakers were a little they were a little heavy handed and made it just all bad, Jim, but I think that they were two people that were involved in whatever that craziness was.De'Vannon: I wonder why that may be, maybe they were so overwhelmed with so much bullshit that they could pick from, they just didn't know how to handle Stuart: it. No, you and you're right, and [00:34:00] I've had to do that too. Like you, when you get raised around stuff, like I've, I have friends that are worship pastor. That have had to work through the idea that like, wait half of what we do all the time is almost just psychologically messing with people, you know, just the lights and the music and getting everyone in that right mood and they can, they know what they're doing with it.And you'd mentioned hypnotism earlier, and I'm not saying it's hypnotism, but it's definitely conditioning people for a situation and creating the expectation for people in the situation. So, I mean, to give Tammy Faye a, a fair shake, which I would say is that she may have been swallowed up in all of that, you know, to where this is all God's work.And it is, it's very, it's very it can be very intoxicating and, and it can be something that really, like you'd mentioned earlier, turn you into a wolf and sheep's clothing. De'Vannon: Yeah, you know, there's a lot of makeup to keep on all the time. it cause money. Stuart: Oh my gosh. I felt bad for Jessica Chastain cuz I think they said [00:35:00] she's like the actress that was portraying her, she had like four hours a day.I'm like, oh that. No, that sounds awful of trying to recreate that look. De'Vannon: That's drag queen say all the time. It takes a a lot of money to look this cheap.So that's in the eyes of Tammy Faye. You could find it on different networks and shit. I recommend it and I love it because these, these people are kind of like at the beginning of the tell tele evangelical wave. So these people pave the way for your Joel O Stings and for your T Jakes and for your Joyce Meyers and everything like that.You know, it's not like I don't see similar practice. Know across all of these ministries, it's up to you to decide who you can trust and who you can't. But, Mm. fuck with churches. I don't, I don't walk, walk in 'em. I don't know none of that no more. And I'm not bitter. I'm just logical now. And I, you [00:36:00] know, and I critique things and it's not okay with me for these churches to break in all this money.And I, I talk about Lakewood a lot cuz that's just where I was, you know, had I been at Felicia's Church of Latter Day Saints and I would be talking about fucking Felicia, but that's not where I was. And so, you know, did, did break in all this money and then be firing volunteers. Mm-hmm. for where they hang out at when they're not at church, you know, when you're off camera.Mm-hmm. . So I'm not okay with Stuart: that. It's a business, it's a, I think it's easier if you begin to see it as a business and not a church. De'Vannon: Oh, it's, it's a grif. And so for those of you don't, Oh yeah, Grif is a Grif Is this religious shit we're talking about? Or Republicans or like when Donald Trump's wife, one of one of his ex wis fell her ass down the stairs and died the other day, you know, he took to his, his social media platform he created and gRED, he was like, She's dead.Would please donate ? So that, that's like a gr yeah, if you want further education, what Grifting is, [00:37:00] I do recommend Ms. Betty Bowers on Facebook. That's hilarious. She's hilarious. Trademark Glory, as she always says. She's very funny. Look up Ms. Betty Bowers. Very funny. And so now you were on a documentary called, In God, We Trump, I'm gonna include a link to this in my showy notes.I watched it on Vimeo earlier. It's the good like hour and a half of your life. I suggest everyone watch it. It's called In God, We Trump in this documentary. Traces the parallel parallelization, That's not a word. I've decided that it is the parallelization of Trump and Evangelicals. And how basically evangelicals created the ability for Donald Trump to become the president of these United States, and then all the as fuckery that followed.Talk to me about your experience on this documentary and why you agreed to be a part of it. [00:38:00]Stuart: I don't know how I got involved it in the first place but when I heard, I think it was through a friend, I think a friend of a friend knew the documentarian and was telling me about what was going on. He was trying to like find people to talk to as he was going around the us and so I reached out to him and we became friends too through the process of it.But he was just like, Yeah, I just want pastors that'll actually be honest about stuff that's going on here. He had a lot of conservative pastors that would not go on camera talking about what they honestly felt like. and yeah, when he traveled down here, cuz I'm in Chapel Hill, North Carolina, I was part of that leg of the tour.He, we set up a spot and talked about it and I was, I do much of what I do on the radio. I just tell it like it is, is the way I see it. And yes, this is the do, I mean really what's been happening is, especially with Roe v. Wade falling recently, this has been the conservative, like evangelical rights essentially wet dream for [00:39:00] 40 to 45 years.And so they've been moving this for years, this amongst other social issues and trying to ingrain them within politics because they saw politics as the way to be able to make social change happen, which is hilarious because they talk about God being the God of the universe and he being all powerful.But God needs us to infiltrate the government because God's too flacid to do anything. I, at least that's how I do it in my own head when they talk about it. But it is, it's, it's, it's a weird, disgusting thing that began to happen. Well that's been happening for a while. If anyone remembers like eighties, like the moral majority or like promise keepers, all this other BS that was kind of all in the line of where, where we are at now with what happened with the Supreme Court.And it'll be interesting to see what happens because I feel like, cuz this, this, I don't think this is in the documentary, but they're, they were, the, the Christian right was toying around with different issues that they thought would be flash points in culture to be able to beat their drum [00:40:00] on. And they, Jerry Falwell on a bunch of them, they would try certain ones, they wouldn't work.Eventually abortion became one of those things. Because before that actually Evangelicals and Christians really didn't have as much of an issue with abortion. With this, I mean, our country has been, we've had abortion since the beginning of the beginning of our country. What? Well, we're founded with what do we, you know, we're a Christian nation, we're founded with values, eh?They like to play around with the fact that we don't know history well, and they like to reframe history and tell us like how it's going to be. But we're now at a weird point in history where I feel like the, the dog finally caught the car, and I, I don't think the Republicans know what to do with it.I think they finally got what they wanted and now they're like, Oh, all right, let's just go take more . Like, we have nothing else to do. We've already stormed the castle. Let's take more. Which is also a terrifying period of time that we're moving into De'Vannon: mm-hmm. . Yeah. It sucks to be a woman right now. Yeah. [00:41:00] I mean, if I could scoop you all up and whi away to the the, to the island of Lesbos where supposedly so many of you emerge from, you know, I would let y'all just go have all the hot lesbian sex with each other for the rest of the time and just do whatever the fuck you want or invite occasional deck over or whatever.And so, but that's not gonna happen. So whatever I can to stand in solidarity with, with you women, folk, I'm more than happy to do. Stuart: And the sad part of it is with all of this is that it is really all a show with conservatives. I, I've I re this is years back when I, when I was at a pastor's meeting in our community, I was in, and this one pastor used to love to brag about how they would go and picket abortion clinics.And about what great work they're doing in the church. And I remember afterwards I didn't like call 'em out in front of it, but I was like, Hey, like, wouldn't it be easier? Like, wouldn't it be more Christlike to go and be like, Talk to these young women, say like, Our families will take your [00:42:00] children in.If that's really what you care about, we, we'll pay for your medical. We'll do all of this. And literally, after I do this whole thing with the music, man, that's too much work. He literally told me that. I mean, not in front of anybody else, but he told me in my face, Oh, that's too much work. So essentially picketing and shaming people, that's God's work.Caring for the children and the women that are in these situations, eh, it's inconvenient. And you know, he kind of said the quiet part out loud, but it's what so many folks, so many folks I think are in that weird dichotomy of this is evil. All right, well if you think it's evil, how could you fix it? I don't wanna fix it.It's too much work. De'Vannon: Sounds about Republican. Yeah. Because, you know, they only need, and I just wanna remind people that there is no national religion. The, the last time that I checked, this is not like the Middle East or something where we are officially the Nation of Islam, or everyone here is a Muslim.The, the United States is not supposed to be that way. Everyone here, this [00:43:00] is not a Christian nation. Mm-hmm. , but don't really like the fact that we have God on money and his name is invoked. Personally. I liked hearing about God since I follow him, but at the same time, we don't have a national religion.And so really, I think everyone should be left to themselves. But Stuart: Well, and God, we trust wasn't even added to the money until like the fifties. So again, like this is when they get all mad, like, Oh no, it's, it's this recent history. You guys, you've put a bunch of dbags about this. De'Vannon: And I'm sure that was, there was some sort of political advantage to that at the times.They wouldn't have just done that out of a love for God Stuart: because, Oh, even that, even, I mean, how you hear a sock about it, how the prayers been taken out of school. I, this is what's burned me. How do you take prayer out of school? Like, are you like, Oh wait, hey Johnny, your eyes are closed. Are you praying?Stop it. No, Maybe they took public ative school, which public prayer a lot of times is fairly useless. I feel like it's just pageantry and [00:44:00] speeches, but they, they don't understand even what they're saying, I De'Vannon: think anymore. And the thing that gets me about like the Republicans and the evangelicals, you know, as you're saying, they only wanna take their agenda as far as it goes to achieve whatever their end goal is, which is to be reelected.So ban this, Ban that, okay, I have more power, you know, fuck 'em. If we care that same mindset, people who are on drugs, people who have certain sicknesses and stuff like that, you know, let's just be against it. You know, let's just lock 'em up and stuff. Mental health issues, but we're not really gonna fix it.Like, it's absolutely senseless to me, like in my case, to lock me in jail for, carry a bunch of meth on me, or for getting caught high, or whatever the reasons people may be in there. But you're not gonna rehabilitate me for all that time. I'm just gonna get it back out. I'm gonna do the same shit. Mm-hmm.So, but when these people, these Republicans and these supposed Christians, all they, their talk is always about how they can change someone else. I never hear them say, [00:45:00] You know, and at least in those sincere way they talk about their relationship with God. You know how they love him or what the spirit is doing in their life and you know what's going on with them.You know, it's always about how we can go and fuck with people over here. Yep. But, but the Lord already told them that there's gonna be many people that says to him in that day talking about when they stand before the judgment thrown, we cast out devils in your name and we did this and we, we fucked with this person and we banned this.And the Lord told you that He's gonna tell you that depart from him, you, he, because you never knew him. You were too busy putting your energy into changing other people that you never bothered to cultivate a true relationship with the Stuart: Lord. I, I think you're right. I mean, I think in so many ways, and that's been one of like growing up as a kid around church, you learn how to do church.Like, you learn how to act, you learn how you're supposed to show up and do. And then even working in ministry for years, it was like, again, it's like a, it's a higher level of knowing what you have to [00:46:00] do. But, but some of the biggest growth I've had is, is, is that internal work. You know, it's, it's that internal space that it's not about performing, it's not about that.Some of it is about . Yeah. About seeking the god of the universe. Some of it's about learning to heal broken places within me and, and being able to do the work to, to, to process through all of that. But I think it, it takes a lot of contemplation and introspection, which I, I, I, again, I don't feel like a lot of modern day Christianity, at least in America, pushes a lot of contemplation and deep thought.And, and also they do a terrible job with mental health cuz a lot of time it's just pray it away. You're depressed, we'll pray for you. Hmm. That's not gonna always fix things. , sometimes you need to go to a counselor and that's okay. Or a therapist. De'Vannon: Yeah. Right. That's like that shit. There was a politician some damn where, and there was like a shooting that happened and like, or maybe [00:47:00] they had like a really bad trouble with like people getting shot, but this one lady's son had got shot like in his neck when a bullet came in the house.And the, this politician, I think it was in Kentucky, you know, he got on TV and he was like, I have a solution. We're all gonna pray and . Stuart: Yeah. Yeah. That's, that that, that's been one thing that has like gotten me like for, for the longest time I think prayer had been set up as some sort of like, almost like a, just dropping a penny in like a fountain kind of a thing.And, and one thing I've grown in as they've kind of grown processing myself, spirituality in spiritually and kind of walk with God is that if we're praying for a problem that we can already fix, I think God's gonna be like, Why are you talking to me about this? You know what I mean? Like, you have it within you already to do it.You're just being lazy and you don't wanna do it. We'd rather just punt and just say, All right, God's gonna do it because it makes us feel better for the moment. De'Vannon: But you know it.[00:48:00]Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, so, so, so much of what, you know, the church has preached these days is about like, either against people or the acquisition of things. Mm-hmm. . And so, which still takes your attention outside of yourself, but, you know, the Lord said that you can gain the whole world and lose your soul.He says you can take a whole city and not be able to control yourself. There's so many warnings, you know, in the Bible about being mindful about, you know, redirecting your attention, getting back the center mm-hmm. . So, so don't get so caught up on going, knocking on people doors, trying to convert them, or trying to go and get rich.When you forsake the thing that's the most important, which is your own damn self improvement. And so, I don't know, the Lord already has beat this dead horse all throughout all the scriptures. I don't think Republicans really read the fucking Bible, but I don't know. It's [00:49:00] already been said either, either y'all hardheaded asses are gonna listen, are you not?And when I say y'all's hardheaded asses, I'm not talking about my base. You know, my beautiful cus listeners and my audience, I'm talking about the, the, the conservative person who happened across this show, . Stuart: And that's Yes. Who, who, who ends up seeing, like being able to use scripture as a weapon against people, which it was never meant to be that way.We've got cloer passages, we've got all sorts of other stuff that people use Scripture and, and it's not meant to be. In that way. De'Vannon: Mm-hmm. . But when people are insecure and shit and they're not whole on the inside, then that's just a form of abuse. You know, they may not be taking their fists and punching someone in the face, but using a scripture to punch someone in the spirit or in the heart, it's still abuse so Stuart: well, and so much of that's taught where there's just like, I think we, we make everything so binary, like, you're good or you're bad.Like this is either good or bad. And we take like, any kind of [00:50:00] gray thinking or any middle ground or context out of situations, because a lot of folks read scripture without context, which is a terrible way to read scripture without understanding what else is happening, Like what is the author trying to convey, all those kind of a things.But I, I, I feel like that we get taught to do all of this, and then at some point, if we're just told, we're all sinful, we're all terrible, and God's not happy with us. Well, I can see a system where people be like, Well I don't, I don't sin or quote unquote sin like he does. So I can really push that cuz it makes me feel better.And then the worst folks that would say that, and again, quote unquote sin because I think that we've used sin very incorrectly in lots of different ways, but where people would be like, Yes, I don't struggle with that, but I really do struggle with that and I don't like what you're doing with your lifestyle even though I really wanna live that lifestyle.So somehow I'm gonna continue to do this and just be a big f and hypocrite in the whole process. So RINs and repeat RINs and repeat for American Christianity. De'Vannon: I want [00:51:00] you to talk about, from the documentary you were talking about how, how Oral Roberts had laid hands on you trying to heal you of asthmaAnd he, I think he forced you to lay on the ground. I've had this happen to me before, certain churches, but you actually were not healed of asthma. And give people background on who Oral Roberts is. Ah, Stuart: I'll give you just snippet in my background. Again, I told you conservative, conservative, conservative.When I was three years old, my I, a sister that was born that was severely like autistic and especially back in eighties, nobody knew what to do with it. So my mom's answer is, We gotta get her healed, right? Fix. We have to fix this because that's what we do. We want to have like a nice little middle class family.We need to fix it. So they would drag, she would drag me around cause my dad wouldn't go cuz he was a good conservative. But she would drag me around with her and my sister to tent meetings, revivals. Eventually we end up with, or Roberts or Roberts again, counter prosperity preacher before the time kind of a thing back in the day.But again, Griffy and all sorts of other fun stuff. [00:52:00] And so then I found myself, I think I'm probably about seven at the time I was, look, I was a kid, grew up with asthma, and my mom just like shoves me in line, doesn't tell me anything. She just shoves me in this line to like get marched up on the stage and I, I figure out what's happening.But again, I'm standing there and they're. Do like the hand to the head, like an asthma, You're healed. Cuz they, Oh cuz what they did is they wrote, they asked me what my problem was and I had a card to my hand and I had to write down asthma. So like I hand it to a dude, he whispers the oral and then, you know, which again that name, I just feel so weird about it anyways.But , it just feels like a pet name. He had a whole background, I don't know, continuing on, but yeah. Or Roberts. So yeah, whispers, asthma grabs my head, pushes me back and I'm not trying to be like, I was a kid wanting to be like, I want God to heal me. And he pushes me back and I just step back and I keep standing there cause I'm like, I don't feel any different.And then, so it happened like a few times eventually to where they had these guys kind of like, they push me where they kind of made sure they caught me and pulled me [00:53:00] back cuz hey man, he's healed. And I'm like, I, I knew as a seven year old, I need my inhaler. I'm not healed. But then the answer for my mother was, Oh, you just didn't have enough faith, which is the loop hold.They put you into that trap with. If it didn't work, not my fault, it's yours. You didn't have enough faith, which again, is hugely abusive, especially to children and actually any human to say that, yeah, if only you had enough faith, God would've fixed you, but not sucks to be you. De'Vannon: It reminds me of a lot of bullshit that I heard when I, I was watching a, again, another documentary on Netflix to keep sweet prey and obey documentary.Is that good? I Stuart: haven't, I haven't, I haven't dipped my toes in that one yet. De'Vannon: I bing the whole damn thing. . So you dip your toes, your dick and everything else in it. I, it is worthy. Okay. Thank you. And, and that, so that [00:54:00] documentary all is about the I think the fellowship of Latter Day Saints Jeff's, you know, the them people and people living offensive seclusion and, you know, 50 wives and a shitload of children and everything like that, and so on and so forth.It's, it's, it's, Stuart: they, they're the folks that even the mor, like the, the normal Mormons are like, those folks are crazy. Which youDe'Vannon: So tell me about the time and Oh, and speaking of documentaries, look, is there any documentarians running around out there? You can come recruit me because I'm ready to spill all kinds of tea. I'm ready to bring my mouth and talk. I ain't shy about shit. I'm ready to go on some documentaries. Right. This audition taper here,I will use it. It worked for Steve Harvey before he, yeah, before he had all of his five businesses and shows now when he was still doing standup and stuff. When, when he had a, whenever he had a camera in front of him, he just looked through the camera and said, [00:55:00] Hey, you people who control the shows, I want a talk show.I want, you know, he's looked into whatever camera was in front of him and said what the fuck he wanted and he got it. So, so yes, I wanna be on documentaries. I want my talks yet, I want, but deals. Give me everything. Fuck it. . Tell me about the time you smuggled a Cameron to the Trinity Broadcasting Network.Stuart: That, Okay, so I, I, this is part of me being probably a counter cultural Christian, even back when I was in the mix of it. So I, I'd worked for an evangelistic organization where we would we worked with like at risk street kids type of stuff. And so the whole goal is that we're supposed to just evangelize them, send 'em to the kingdom.But I, that never sat right with me cuz I was like, what are we inviting them into? Like, just pray a prayer so you're not going to hell. And then No, no, I was like, it needs to be, you're inviting someone [00:56:00] into something greater, like a different way of doing it. And so we were, we, I took some of these kids, like street kids, which is hilarious.Like you're taking them down to do missions work in la. So, you know, so their whole idea is I'm spending my spring break helping other people that are doing the, in some like, yes. So when I took them down there, I just I was like, I know TBN is around here. And I told them, I was like, I just wanna take you into the thing that is absolutely not Christianity, , none of this has anything to do with Christianity.And so they let us in, they let us, I didn't even really smuggle it that much. It was mainly just the idea where, I think the guy at the door, I was like, Oh, I'm such a fan. I love this and everything. And he was so great. So I. Essentially just lied. And so he led us with a group of kids in, Cuz I was like, Oh, we wanna show the Youth of America how wonderful this is at TBN Studios.And it led me to walking around and mocking everything on video that I was seeing cuz it is nuts. Spray painted gold toilets, all the other stuff. Like, it's, it's, it's [00:57:00] gross. It was like, yeah, it was like Liberacci had an orgasm somewhere and it is tbn like it was, everything is painted gold. Everything was just over the top like decadent in ways that you're kind of like, what is, is this Vegas?It really felt like Vegas more than it did any kind of a Christian ministry. But like cheap Vegas, whatever that is. , like, we're fake in Vegas, so, so it's more like Reno, I guess. . De'Vannon: But that's a part of the hypnotherapy though, you know, So the basis or, or conditioning, you know, it's all a part of hypnotherapy.And then h therapy, all it means is to overload the conscious mind so that you can gain access to the subconscious. And you do that by simply making the conscious mind focus on more than one thing. Because my conscious mind can only focus on one thing at a time. And so if you've got all of this crazy, fake, opulent shit going on and bitches running around where faces full of clown makeup and the [00:58:00] shouting, and the hollering the music, you don't, you, you, you don't have no ability to be critical unless you intend to be critical.You know, you're, you, you are in conscious overload. Mm-hmm. . And then that's how you become suggestible, as we call it in Hy therapy. Your mind is now in a suggestible state and you will receive what's being presented to you. With much less criticism, if any at all. Stuart: Did you just describe a Sunday morning service?Oh. Oh. Was hidden it there? I'm joking. . But it almost, I mean, that's the whole idea we're we conditioned you to be receptive to what we're saying in, in a weird, manipulative way. I feel like church ends up kind of doing that in their own controlling, non-controlling way. De'Vannon: You know what, say having this discussion right now makes me think about that chant that Joel does before each time he preaches.So he'll get his Bible and wave it around and the whole church will chant with him and he'll say, This is my Bible. I am, I have what it says I have. I am what it says I am. And he'll say, You know, my [00:59:00] mind is opened, My heart is Seth if I'm about to receive, you know? And then there's just this whole thing I'm like, and I'm thinking, Oh my God, this, you know, there was a whole, He was hypnotizing us the whole time.Mm-hmm. . You know, it seems like an innocent group chant and everything like that, but now the shit seems really culty when I look back on it. Mm. Why you can't just get up there and say, What the fuck you gotta say? Why you gotta have us chant with you to, to say that we're now gonna be vulnerable to what you wanna say.Mm-hmm. . Stuart: But it's, it's, it's about Brandon and it's about keep bringing you back every week. You know, It's about, it's again, you mentioned being a drug dealer. This is kind of being like a holy drug dealer, but it's never gonna get you what you want, but it's only gonna give you that taste and keep you coming back every Sunday De'Vannon: with promises of what could be.Mm-hmm. . Stuart: Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. You're wanting to read, you

This episode of The Passage to Profit Show features Power Strategist & Media Coach, Dr. Gilda Carle, Sue Marshall from NETZRO and Jean-Que Dar from tap. Dr. Gilda Carle, Ph.D. is a Power Strategist & Media Coach, serving clients worldwide. As a media personality, she was the host of Fox’s “Dr. Gilda” TV show pilot, MTV’s “Love Doc,” and TV shows on Trinity Broadcasting Network. She wrote the “30-Second Therapist” column for the Today Show, the “Ask Dr. Gilda” column for Match.com, and she was the therapist in HBO’s Emmy Award winner, “Telling Nicholas,” featured on Oprah. Her non-profit, Country Cures® (www.CountryCures.org), empowers Homeless Female Veterans. She is a product spokesperson (Hallmark, Harlequin, Sprint, Cottonelle, Galderma Pharmaceuticals, Match.com), keynote speaker, Professor Emerita of Business, and author of 18 books. She is on the MBA faculty of the Forbes School of Business & Technology. Read more at: https://www.drgilda.com/ Our Entrepreneur Presenters for September 25, 2022: Sue Marshall is the founder of NETZRO, a modern Food Upcycling, platform, that helps power the safe capture and conversion of industrial food and beverage byproducts into new sustainable food ingredients at scale. The food supply chain in the US is broken. NETZRO’s integrated solutions eliminate food and water waste from farm to fork AND from fork to farm. Projects include upcycling egg shells for calcium carbonate (shell) and collagen protein (shell membrane), upcycling grains for fiber and protein, cold-pressing fruits and veggies into superfood ingredients and upcycling mixed food waste for agricultural soil fertilizer. Since 2015, NETZRO has built an ecosystem of farmers, producers, distributors, retailers, restaurants, consumers and regulators, all working together to pioneer a circular upcycled food economy. Read more at: https://www.netzro.us/ Jean-Que Dar is the founder of tap., a mobile app where entertainment professionals connect, network, and manage their entire entertainment career in the global media and entertainment industry. Connect with **verified** entertainment professionals and send contracts, sign deals, and pay (including royalties) to Hollywood producers, directors, Creatives, Execs, Managers, Agents, Casting Directors, Set Designers, Distributors, Marketers, Investors, Actors, Models, Photographers, Stylists and other entertainment professionals all over the world. Protect your funds until you've had the chance to review and approve the work with tap.'s escrow payment. "Create an event" allows you to create and highlight any upcoming event and invite anyone from entertainment industry. No need of going back and forth with calls and messages, manage your invitations and guest lists all at one platform - tap. Read more at: https://tap.ec/ Visit https://passagetoprofitshow.com/ for the latest updates and episodes.

This episode of The Passage to Profit Show features Power Strategist & Media Coach, Dr. Gilda Carle, Sue Marshall from NETZRO and Jean-Que Dar from tap. Dr. Gilda Carle, Ph.D. is a Power Strategist & Media Coach, serving clients worldwide. As a media personality, she was the host of Fox’s “Dr. Gilda” TV show pilot, MTV’s “Love Doc,” and TV shows on Trinity Broadcasting Network. She wrote the “30-Second Therapist” column for the Today Show, the “Ask Dr. Gilda” column for Match.com, and she was the therapist in HBO’s Emmy Award winner, “Telling Nicholas,” featured on Oprah. Her non-profit, Country Cures® (www.CountryCures.org), empowers Homeless Female Veterans. She is a product spokesperson (Hallmark, Harlequin, Sprint, Cottonelle, Galderma Pharmaceuticals, Match.com), keynote speaker, Professor Emerita of Business, and author of 18 books. She is on the MBA faculty of the Forbes School of Business & Technology. Read more at: https://www.drgilda.com/ Our Entrepreneur Presenters for September 25, 2022: Sue Marshall is the founder of NETZRO, a modern Food Upcycling, platform, that helps power the safe capture and conversion of industrial food and beverage byproducts into new sustainable food ingredients at scale. The food supply chain in the US is broken. NETZRO’s integrated solutions eliminate food and water waste from farm to fork AND from fork to farm. Projects include upcycling egg shells for calcium carbonate (shell) and collagen protein (shell membrane), upcycling grains for fiber and protein, cold-pressing fruits and veggies into superfood ingredients and upcycling mixed food waste for agricultural soil fertilizer. Since 2015, NETZRO has built an ecosystem of farmers, producers, distributors, retailers, restaurants, consumers and regulators, all working together to pioneer a circular upcycled food economy. Read more at: https://www.netzro.us/ Jean-Que Dar is the founder of tap., a mobile app where entertainment professionals connect, network, and manage their entire entertainment career in the global media and entertainment industry. Connect with **verified** entertainment professionals and send contracts, sign deals, and pay (including royalties) to Hollywood producers, directors, Creatives, Execs, Managers, Agents, Casting Directors, Set Designers, Distributors, Marketers, Investors, Actors, Models, Photographers, Stylists and other entertainment professionals all over the world. Protect your funds until you've had the chance to review and approve the work with tap.'s escrow payment. "Create an event" allows you to create and highlight any upcoming event and invite anyone from entertainment industry. No need of going back and forth with calls and messages, manage your invitations and guest lists all at one platform - tap. Read more at: https://tap.ec/ Visit https://passagetoprofitshow.com/ for the latest updates and episodes.

In Episode 171 we once again have the pleasure of interviewing three-time Olympic gold medalist, Leah Amico. Leah has multiple projects in the works right now including being the Director of Recruiting for a new app called Major Media League (https://www.majormedialeague.com/). She is also launching a brand new podcast called "The Gold Standard Podcast" which will be available next week (May 24th). Leah Amico is a three-time Olympic gold medalist with USA Softball, a two-time World Champion, a National Softball Hall of Fame Inductee in 2009, and a three-time national champion at The University of Arizona. At Arizona, Leah was also honored as a three-time First Team All-American and a three-time First Team Academic All-American for her excellence both on the field and in the classroom. Known for being one of the most clutch hitters of all time, Leah still holds the record for highest batting average in the Women's College World Series. Leah is also a college softball analyst with ESPN and Westwood One Sports, where she imparts her love and knowledge of the game to many fans across the world. Experiencing triumphs and overcoming trials taught Leah how to perform in pressure situations and helped her climb to new heights of success. The lessons she learned during her collegiate and Olympic journeys have helped Leah to pass on knowledge that can be applied in any career field.Leah Amico is a professional and inspirational speaker with over 20 years of national speaking engagements. She empowers people with the tools needed to have a strong mindset and apply the daily discipline needed to be successful. Leah relates to others with her stories that are engaging and inspiring. She shares keys to unlocking your potential that can help you thrive in any situation. Leah leaves people believing they can and will conquer their personal and career goals if they will apply the core principles she speaks about. She is also passionate about being able to enjoy a healthy balance between work and personal life. Leah helps people determine their own views of success and to set goals to rise to the top of their expectations.Accomplishments:3-Time Olympic Gold Medalist (USA Softball: 1996, 2000, 2004)2-Time World Champion (1998, 2002)2-Time Pan-American Games Champion (1999, 2003)3-Time NCAA National Champion (University of Arizona; 1993, 1994, 1997)National Softball Hall of Fame Honoree in 2009University of Arizona Hall of Fame Honoree in 2002Named in 2006 to the NCAA Division I Softball 25th Anniversary TeamHolds the Women's College World Series Record for batting average in a single tournament, hitting .750 (9 for 12) in 1994Three-time First-Team NFCA All-American (1994, 1995, 1997)Three-time First-Team Academic All-AmericanCareer numbers – .428 batting average, 338 hits, 53 doubles, five triples, seven home runs and 181 RBINamed the 1997 NCAA Woman of The Year for the state of ArizonaInducted into the Athletes In Action Hall of Faith (2008)Named #44 Best Athlete in California High School of all timeHost of the Christian Sports Show on Trinity Broadcasting Network, “More Than Conquerors” from 2006-2009