Podcast appearances and mentions of Vinay Prasad

Marty Makary and Vinay Prasad claim they're going to open the "black box" at the FDA, an agency they're now both employed at. So they started a podcast. It's not the first official FDA podcast, but it certainly fits into the contrarian ethos both men have cultivated since 2020. Derek and Julian listen in to see how much of that box is actually being opened. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We've been talking about RFK Jr for years, and even dedicated an entire chapter to him in our 2023 book—and we're going to keep covering him. Since his power and influence has only grown, and since he's now in charge of America's entire health apparatus, there's no way to avoid it. This week we catch up on the last few months of MAHA. Derek looks into why he believes Kennedy's apparatus, despite claims of being about health, is really a cover for Project 2025's deregulatory agenda. Julian discusses a recent paper published in the New England Journal of Medicine by Covid contrarians Marty Makary and Vinay Prasad, who now both work under Kennedy. Finally, Matthew will contemplate Kennedy's crude remarks on autism through the lens of disability politics. Show Notes What Has All This Restaurant Food Done to My Gut? Function Health is Another Theranosesque Scam MAHA's Goal Is Not Health: Robert Kennedy's movement promises more privatization RFK Jr. meets with health tech startups, most backed by Andreessen Horowitz COVID infection no longer gives lasting immunity Hybrid Immunity May Be the Key to Developing Better Vaccines Makary, Bhattacharya in New England Journal of Medicine Consequences of Work Requirements in Arkansas: Two-Year Impacts on Coverage, Employment, and Affordability of Care  Concerns About ABA-Based Intervention: An Evaluation and Recommendations - PMC  Adler-Bolton, Beatrice, and Artie Vierkant. 2022. Health Communism: A Surplus Manifesto. Verso Books. SURPLUS. Adler-Bolton, The New Inquiry. October 18, 2022.  Extractive Abandonment - Stimpunks Foundation  Social and medical models of disability and mental health: evolution and renewal - PMC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Subscribe on Patreon and hear this week's full patron-exclusive episode here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/129947873 Beatrice and Artie discuss the “GOP Murder Bill” just passed in the House of Representatives, with a particular focus on why adding work requirements to Medicaid is so dangerous, and how brazen the attacks on trans care are under the bill. Then we discuss Vinay Prasad and Marty Makary's attempts to use the FDA to make it impossible to get a covid vaccine. Runtime 1:26:00 Note: We're back! Thank you to everyone for all the well wishes and many kind messages during our parental leave. We have a lot coming together soon processing current events and reacting to some big developments that happened while we were away. As we ramp production back up we'll be prioritizing the patron feed first to make sure patrons get a full new episode every week. Get Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism Find Jules' new book here: https://www.versobooks.com/products/3054-a-short-history-of-trans-misogyny

Is the “poop pill” a possible treatment for small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO)? Pro-mask, pro-lockdown, pro-vax words come back to haunt their authors as Covid response critics appointed to key HHS positions; MAHA influencer Dr. Casey Means replaces original Surgeon General nominee; Rating Trump's new vaccine czar, oncologist Vinay Prasad; Is Laetrile effective for cancer? If you're eating a diet rich in fruits and vegetables, do you still need probiotics? Researchers tap an unusual source for antivenom against deadly snakebites—a snake handler who's survived multiple poisonings.

Dr. Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent unpack the deep ironies and ethical contradictions behind recent appointments at the NIH and FDA. From once-demanded randomized controlled trials now deemed “not always necessary,” to the political operatives now at the helm of America's public health infrastructure, the duo explores how power rewrites principles. They dissect statements from RFK Jr., Vinay Prasad, and Jay Bhattacharya, drawing attention to the chilling real-world consequences of politicized medicine—especially for vaccines and children's health.   Connect with us further on https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/author/jonathanhoward/  The Fine Print The content presented in the "We Want Them Infected" Podcast and associated book is intended for informational and educational purposes only.    The views and opinions expressed by the speakers, hosts, and guests on the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the creators, producers, or distributors. The information provided in this podcast should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical, scientific, or legal advice. Listeners and readers are encouraged to consult with relevant experts and authorities for specific guidance and information.   The creators of the podcast and book have made reasonable efforts to ensure that the information provided is accurate and up to date. However, as the field of medical science and the understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic continue to evolve, there may be new developments and insights that are not covered in this content.   The creators are not responsible for any errors or omissions in the content or for any actions taken based on the information provided. They disclaim any liability for any loss, injury, or damage incurred by individuals who rely on the content.   Listeners and readers are urged to use their judgment and conduct their own research when interpreting the information presented in the "We Want Them Infected" podcast and book. It is essential to stay informed about the latest updates, guidelines, and recommendations related to COVID-19 and vaccination from reputable sources, such as government health agencies and medical professionals. By accessing and using the content, you acknowledge and accept the terms of this disclaimer.   Please consult with appropriate experts and authorities for specific guidance on matters related to health, science, and the COVID-19 pandemic.  

America Out Loud PULSE with Dr. Vaughn & Dr. Tankersley – If the news is accurate that the nominee for Surgeon General, Casey Means, is pregnant, I hope she avoids the COVID shot for her child and tells the world why. The new FDA vaccine director, Dr. Vinay Prasad, replaces the fraudulent Peter Marks and is immediately called an ‘anti-vaxxer' despite decades of giving them to his patients...

America Out Loud PULSE with Dr. Vaughn & Dr. Tankersley – If the news is accurate that the nominee for Surgeon General, Casey Means, is pregnant, I hope she avoids the COVID shot for her child and tells the world why. The new FDA vaccine director, Dr. Vinay Prasad, replaces the fraudulent Peter Marks and is immediately called an ‘anti-vaxxer' despite decades of giving them to his patients...

President Donald Trump unveiled a sweeping drug pricing policy this week, seeking to lower drug prices in the U.S. by up to 80% through a reprisal of the Most Favored Nation rule he attempted to introduce in his first term. The rule would essentially link U.S. prices to those paid in other nations where medications are cheaper. Biopharma reaction was one of tentative relief, with BMO Capital Markets analysts suggesting the executive order had “more bark than bite.” Meanwhile, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services announced that among the next 15 drugs to undergo IRA-prescripted price negotiations could be drugs payable through Medicare Part B, and not just Part D, where the first two rounds have applied.  Into all of this action steps Vinay Prasad, the outspoken oncologist and hematologist who was named last week as the next director of the FDA's Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research. While the S&P Biotech ETF fell by more than 5% upon the news, overall reaction was fairly measured, with cell and gene therapy executive Audrey Greenberg summing up Prasad's selection as “anything but a status quo appointment.”  Over in the weight loss and obesity space, Eli Lilly can't seem to lose. This weekend, Lilly announced full data from a head-to-head trial showing a “superior benefit-to-risk ratio” for its Zepbound over Novo Nordisk's Wegovy. And last week, the Indiana-based pharma won a court battle against compounders when a judge sided with the FDA, stating that tirzepatide—the active ingredient in both Zepbound and diabetes sister drug Mounjaro—was no longer in shortage. Add on a presidential shoutout during Trump's Monday press conference for its U.S. manufacturing investments, and it really was Lilly's week.  Flying less high are some 2,000 Bayer employees who lost their jobs in the first quarter of 2025 as part of the company's new operating model, which is intended to make Bayer “much more agile.” On a less direct flight is Galapagos, which reversed course on plans to spin out a portion of the company and find a new CEO. Instead, CEO Paul Stoffels will make a quicker exit and the Belgian biotech could sell off its cell therapy assets as it looks to build up a new pipeline in house, having abandoned the spinout idea altogether. Stay tuned.  Finally, in ClinicaSpace this week, we took a deep dive into the HIV treatment space, where companies like Gilead and Immunocore are targeting a cure, while the Trump administration slashes funding for HIV research.  

Biopharmas developing therapies for obesity are looking to a future where the quality of weight loss matters as much as the quantity — what targets and programs could help realize that vision? On the latest BioCentury This Week podcast, BioCentury's editors discuss the signaling pathways that may exclusively target fat mass while preserving, or even increasing, lean mass — and which companies are playing in the space.The editors also assess what Vinay Prasad's past comments say about how he might lead FDA's Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research (CBER) — and examine how investors are evaluating the possibility that he might move the bar for regulatory approvals. The team then introduces the first in a new BioCentury series, with a look at a Literature Dive into ovarian cancer “atlases” — large-scale molecular profiling studies that point to predictive signatures and patient stratification strategies. This episode was sponsored by Jeito Capital.View full story: https://www.biocentury.com/article/655898#biotech #biopharma #pharma #obesity #FDA #CBER #LifeScience #OvarianCancer00:01 - Sponsor Message: Jeito Capital03:22 - Obesity: Quality over Quantity15:47 - Prasad at FDA27:58 - Ovarian Cancer AtlasesTo submit a question to BioCentury's editors, email the BioCentury This Week team at podcasts@biocentury.com.Reach us by sending a text

Good morning from Pharma and Biotech daily: the podcast that gives you only what's important to hear in Pharma and Biotech world.The White House has announced a new drug pricing policy that includes the revival of the most favored nations rule and extends to the private markets, leveraging the patent system, drug importation, and more. Meanwhile, Lilly's Zepbound has been found to have a superior benefit-risk ratio compared to Novo's Wegovy, BMS and Sanofi settle a Plavix lawsuit with Hawaii for $700 million, and biopharma companies are focusing on developing a cure for HIV as federal funding for related research is being cut. Sino Biological offers comprehensive solutions for autoimmune diseases, and Roche promises a $300 million investment in China production after a multibillion-dollar investment in the US. On the other hand, Lexeo and IGM have both announced significant layoffs. Novartis CEO has expressed concerns about Trump's pricing controls.Funding for HIV-related research and infrastructure is being cut by the Trump administration, leading biopharma companies like Gilead and Immunocore to focus on finding a cure for HIV. In the field of neurology, there is a need for more precise diagnostic tools to effectively treat neurodegenerative conditions. The new HHS vaccine requirement has been criticized by leading vaccine physician Paul Offit as potentially being anti-vaccine activism disguised as policy. Companies like Novartis, Bayer, and AstraZeneca are exploring new indications and innovations in radiopharmaceuticals, hoping to capitalize on a market that could reach $16 billion by 2033. The FDA has faced delays in reviewing certain drugs, while biotech stocks have fallen after the appointment of Vinay Prasad to succeed Marks at CBER. Vertex has decided to abandon AAV in the gene therapy space.Upcoming events include a webinar on surviving and thriving in the biotech downturn. Job opportunities in the biopharma industry include positions at Takeda, Daiichi Sankyo, and AbbVie. Heather McKenzie, senior editor at BioSpace, is open to suggestions for future coverage topics in neuroscience, oncology, cell & gene therapy, metabolic, or other areas.

Dr. Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent examine the alarming elevation of wellness influencer Casey Means as Surgeon General nominee, despite lacking a medical license or conventional medical credibility. They delve into Vinay Prasad's appointment as head of vaccine regulation, scrutinizing his past critiques of RCT deficiencies—and the impossible standards he now sets for himself. The episode also investigates the troubling rise of an autism registry, likened to authoritarian categorization, and NIH's internal collapse under Jay Bhattacharya, whose leadership is marked by mass layoffs and denial of responsibility. With science policy veering into cronyism, dismantling, and performative governance, the episode argues that we're witnessing a historic erosion of public health leadership—led not by scientists, but social media provocateurs. Connect with us further on https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/author/jonathanhoward/  The Fine Print The content presented in the "We Want Them Infected" Podcast and associated book is intended for informational and educational purposes only.  The views and opinions expressed by the speakers, hosts, and guests on the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the creators, producers, or distributors. The information provided in this podcast should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical, scientific, or legal advice. Listeners and readers are encouraged to consult with relevant experts and authorities for specific guidance and information. The creators of the podcast and book have made reasonable efforts to ensure that the information provided is accurate and up to date. However, as the field of medical science and the understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic continue to evolve, there may be new developments and insights that are not covered in this content. The creators are not responsible for any errors or omissions in the content or for any actions taken based on the information provided. They disclaim any liability for any loss, injury, or damage incurred by individuals who rely on the content. Listeners and readers are urged to use their judgment and conduct their own research when interpreting the information presented in the "We Want Them Infected" podcast and book. It is essential to stay informed about the latest updates, guidelines, and recommendations related to COVID-19 and vaccination from reputable sources, such as government health agencies and medical professionals. By accessing and using the content, you acknowledge and accept the terms of this disclaimer. Please consult with appropriate experts and authorities for specific guidance on matters related to health, science, and the COVID-19 pandemic.

In Episode 42 of MAHA News, Jordan Sather and Nate Prince tackle the explosive drama surrounding Trump's new Surgeon General nominee, Dr. Casey Means. The appointment has triggered fierce infighting across the MAHA and MAGA camps, with accusations flying over her lack of an active medical license, unfinished residency, and New Age wellness views. But Jordan and Nate cut through the hysteria, pointing out that her holistic, metabolic-based approach is exactly what the country needs, and that most critics are conveniently ignoring the total clownery of past Surgeon Generals. RFK Jr. weighs in with full-throated support for Means, denouncing coordinated smear campaigns by social media influencers, including Nicole Shanahan and Laura Loomer, whose emotional meltdowns and wild accusations get put under the microscope. The hosts also highlight RFK's game-changing appointments, like Vinay Prasad taking over FDA vaccine oversight, and his damning claim that the Biden-era HHS was complicit in the trafficking of over 300,000 missing children. The episode hits on Florida's symbolic geoengineering ban, the federal lab sabotage in Frederick, MD, and a disturbing WHO study linking cell phone radiation to cancer. Other hot topics include RFK's federal gain-of-function research ban, placebo testing for vaccines, fluoride deception in kids' toothpaste, and Tyson Foods' public relations pivot. With humor, clarity, and a side of righteous indignation, Jordan and Nate strip away the media spin to expose who's real, who's a plant, and what it all means for the future of health freedom.

Pink Sheet Executive Editor Derrick Gingery, Senior Editor Sue Sutter and Editor-in-Chief Nielsen Hobbs consider early excitement and concern about Vinay Prasad's potential impact on product development as director of the US Food and Drug Administration's Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research (:20). They also consider the consequences of the FDA missing product-specific guidance publication deadlines (14:59) and its potential impact on the upcoming user fee reauthorization negotiations (20:00). More On These Topics From The Pink Sheet Tougher Approval Standards May Follow Vinay Prasad's Appointment To Lead US FDA's CBER: https://insights.citeline.com/pink-sheet/agency-leadership/us-fda/tougher-approval-standards-may-follow-vinay-prasads-appointment-to-lead-us-fdas-cber-WEULXI5EJRE43BWU752PGDGE44/ US FDA Guidance Roadblock: Writing Continues, But Publication Has Slowed Or Stopped: https://insights.citeline.com/pink-sheet/biosimilars-and-generics/generics/us-fda-guidance-roadblock-writing-continues-but-publication-has-slowed-or-stopped-TZF4DMPEMVHT3JJPRUX7LJJIHU/

Good morning from Pharma and Biotech daily: the podcast that gives you only what's important to hear in Pharma e Biotech world. Takeda's $30 billion investment in the U.S. is making headlines, along with their opposition to Trump's proposal on drug prices. The FDA's appointment of Vinay Prasad is stirring up mixed reactions within the industry. On another note, Lilly's legal victory against compounders, Novavax's growing sales, and Gilead's significant investment in U.S. manufacturing are all key developments. The FDA vaccine advisors are gearing up for a meeting to discuss COVID-19 updates, while Vor Bio is seeking an exit due to funding challenges. Biotech stocks took a hit following Prasad's appointment to lead CBER, highlighting the industry's current challenges including vaccine hesitancy and job market struggles.

Howie and Harlan are joined by Thomas Gill, a Yale geriatrician whose research tracks the factors that contribute to disability in older adults—and those that support continued independence. And they discuss the contrarian tapped to evaluate vaccines at the FDA, allegations of kickbacks against insurers, and the potential end of a loophole that has allowed states to collect additional Medicaid funding.  Links: Vinay Prasad at the FDA “Vinay Prasad tapped to run FDA center that regulates vaccines, gene therapies” “Vinay Prasad, in his own words, outlines the philosophy he'll bring to the FDA” “Peter Marks, FDA's top vaccine regulator, forced out” Howard Forman on LinkedIn on Vinay Prasad's Appointment Vinay Prasad's Substack Insurance News “Justice Department Sues Big Medicare Insurers Alleging Kickbacks” “Aetna to exit the ACA exchanges in 2026” “What Aetna quitting the exchanges says about the exchanges” ”CVS to boost access to Novo Nordisk's weight loss treatment Wegovy for patients on its drug plans” Thomas Gill Statista: Share of old age population (65 years and older) in the total U.S. population from 1950 to 2050 Thomas Gill: “A physical activity intervention to treat the frailty syndrome in older persons-results from the LIFE-P study” Thomas Gill: “A Program to Prevent Functional Decline in Physically Frail, Elderly Persons Who Live at Home” “Prehabilitation for Patients Undergoing Orthopedic Surgery: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis” “Allostatic Load: Importance, Markers, and Score Determination in Minority and Disparity Populations” “Cohort Profile: The Precipitating Events Project (PEP Study)” “In Memoriam: Yale Expert in Clinical Research Methods, Alvan R. Feinstein” Medicaid Cuts “Putting $880 Billion in Potential Federal Medicaid Cuts in Context of State Budgets and Coverage” “Republicans are running out of ways to cut Medicaid as moderates and hard-liners clash” “G.O.P. Targets a Medicaid Loophole Used by 49 States to Grab Federal Money” Learn more about the MBA for Executives program at Yale SOM. Email Howie and Harlan comments or questions.

Good morning from Pharma and Biotech daily: the podcast that gives you only what's important to hear in Pharma and Biotech world.Novo Nordisk predicts a brighter future for Wegovy with the end of the semaglutide shortage, but analysts remain skeptical as Eli Lilly's Zepbound gains ground in sales. The new HHS vaccine requirement has raised questions about its true intentions, with leading vaccine physician Paul Offit criticizing the lack of clarity. Meanwhile, pharmaceutical imports from Ireland are on the rise, biotech stocks fell after Vinay Prasad was named to succeed Marks at CBER, and Lotte Biologics' ADC facility in Syracuse offers end-to-end services for antibody manufacturing. CRISPR's Casgevy is gaining traction with more gene therapy proof of concept expected in 2025, impacting M&A and IPOs in the biotech industry. Summit Pharmaceuticals is nearing the first global phase III data for Keytruda, set to lose exclusivity in 2028 and potentially face competition from biosimilars. A report suggests that low-price drug nations are benefiting from US innovation, undervaluing innovative medicines by 90%. VC financing in biopharma declined by 20% in Q1, but megarounds kept the median deal size high. M&A and IPOs faced challenges due to policy issues, leading to an increase in licensing deals. Novo vows to improve market access for Wegovy, while Trump orders FDA to ease US plant expansion and increase inspections of foreign facilities. BMS pledges a $40 billion investment in the US, Novartis makes M&A moves, and Lilly remains unfazed by CVS's decision to side with Novo in the obesity market battle. Some drugmakers are stockpiling products in the US amid Trump's trade war. NGM terminates half of its staff as its lead asset moves through a registrational study. Job opportunities in clinical quality assurance audit, RBQM central statistical monitoring, and field medical capabilities are available.

Howie and Harlan are joined by Thomas Gill, a Yale geriatrician whose research tracks the factors that contribute to disability in older adults—and those that support continued independence. And they discuss the contrarian tapped to evaluate vaccines at the FDA, allegations of kickbacks against insurers, and the potential end of a loophole that has allowed states to collect additional Medicaid funding.  Links: Vinay Prasad at the FDA “Vinay Prasad tapped to run FDA center that regulates vaccines, gene therapies” “Vinay Prasad, in his own words, outlines the philosophy he'll bring to the FDA” “Peter Marks, FDA's top vaccine regulator, forced out” Howard Forman on LinkedIn on Vinay Prasad's Appointment Vinay Prasad's Substack Insurance News “Justice Department Sues Big Medicare Insurers Alleging Kickbacks” “Aetna to exit the ACA exchanges in 2026” “What Aetna quitting the exchanges says about the exchanges” ”CVS to boost access to Novo Nordisk's weight loss treatment Wegovy for patients on its drug plans” Thomas Gill Statista: Share of old age population (65 years and older) in the total U.S. population from 1950 to 2050 Thomas Gill: “A physical activity intervention to treat the frailty syndrome in older persons-results from the LIFE-P study” Thomas Gill: “A Program to Prevent Functional Decline in Physically Frail, Elderly Persons Who Live at Home” “Prehabilitation for Patients Undergoing Orthopedic Surgery: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis” “Allostatic Load: Importance, Markers, and Score Determination in Minority and Disparity Populations” “Cohort Profile: The Precipitating Events Project (PEP Study)” “In Memoriam: Yale Expert in Clinical Research Methods, Alvan R. Feinstein” Medicaid Cuts “Putting $880 Billion in Potential Federal Medicaid Cuts in Context of State Budgets and Coverage” “Republicans are running out of ways to cut Medicaid as moderates and hard-liners clash” “G.O.P. Targets a Medicaid Loophole Used by 49 States to Grab Federal Money” Learn more about the MBA for Executives program at Yale SOM. Email Howie and Harlan comments or questions.

Dr. Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent return to discuss the alarming direction of U.S. public health, focusing on RFK Jr.'s misinformation campaign about vaccines, the threat of COVID booster access disappearing under political pressure, and the erosion of CDC authority.  They critique the hypocrisy of figures like Marty Makary and Vinay Prasad who now call for new randomized controlled trials while simultaneously undercutting access to vaccines.  The conversation also highlights the troubling revisionist COVID narratives being pushed by mainstream journalists and the dangerous implications of gutting pandemic protections—particularly for vulnerable groups.   Connect with us further on https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/author/jonathanhoward/  The Fine Print The content presented in the "We Want Them Infected" Podcast and associated book is intended for informational and educational purposes only.    The views and opinions expressed by the speakers, hosts, and guests on the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the creators, producers, or distributors. The information provided in this podcast should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical, scientific, or legal advice. Listeners and readers are encouraged to consult with relevant experts and authorities for specific guidance and information.   The creators of the podcast and book have made reasonable efforts to ensure that the information provided is accurate and up to date. However, as the field of medical science and the understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic continue to evolve, there may be new developments and insights that are not covered in this content.   The creators are not responsible for any errors or omissions in the content or for any actions taken based on the information provided. They disclaim any liability for any loss, injury, or damage incurred by individuals who rely on the content.   Listeners and readers are urged to use their judgment and conduct their own research when interpreting the information presented in the "We Want Them Infected" podcast and book. It is essential to stay informed about the latest updates, guidelines, and recommendations related to COVID-19 and vaccination from reputable sources, such as government health agencies and medical professionals. By accessing and using the content, you acknowledge and accept the terms of this disclaimer.   Please consult with appropriate experts and authorities for specific guidance on matters related to health, science, and the COVID-19 pandemic.  

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In this episode of Therapy Time with Jonathan and Wendy, hosts Dr. Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent dive into the growing measles outbreak in the U.S. and how it exposes the deadly consequences of RFK Jr.'s anti-vaccine agenda. With 259 cases in Texas alone, including 34 hospitalizations and two deaths, the hosts discuss how this outbreak was entirely preventable—yet fueled by years of misinformation from figures like RFK Jr. and his allies. Dr. Howard reflects on an invitation he received to speak with a filmmaker producing a documentary on the Great Barrington Declaration, questioning whether it will present the truth or further rewrite pandemic history. Meanwhile, Wendy highlights RFK Jr.'s bizarre response to the measles crisis—suggesting vitamin A, cod liver oil, and steroidsover vaccines. The discussion expands to doctors and public figures who once defended RFK Jr., including Vinay Prasad, Jay Bhattacharya, and Marty Makary, all of whom promoted his nomination as a supposed reformer of public health. Now, with RFK Jr. dismantling vaccine initiatives, canceling flu shot studies, and pushing for a new "study" on vaccines and autism, Jonathan and Wendy ask: Where are the apologies? Other key topics include: Jay Bhattacharya's refusal to acknowledge that vaccines don't cause autism during Senate questioning The Democrats' failure to challenge Bhattacharya and Makary on their COVID-era misinformation The ongoing attack on vaccine safety monitoring systems and the potential removal of mRNA vaccines The absurdity of calls for a "randomized controlled trial" of childhood vaccine schedules As the anti-vaccine movement gains more power, Jonathan and Wendy underscore a terrifying reality: We are watching public health be systematically dismantled—and children are paying the price.   Connect with us further on https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/author/jonathanhoward/  The Fine Print The content presented in the "We Want Them Infected" Podcast and associated book is intended for informational and educational purposes only.    The views and opinions expressed by the speakers, hosts, and guests on the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the creators, producers, or distributors. The information provided in this podcast should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical, scientific, or legal advice. Listeners and readers are encouraged to consult with relevant experts and authorities for specific guidance and information.   The creators of the podcast and book have made reasonable efforts to ensure that the information provided is accurate and up to date. However, as the field of medical science and the understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic continue to evolve, there may be new developments and insights that are not covered in this content.   The creators are not responsible for any errors or omissions in the content or for any actions taken based on the information provided. They disclaim any liability for any loss, injury, or damage incurred by individuals who rely on the content.   Listeners and readers are urged to use their judgment and conduct their own research when interpreting the information presented in the "We Want Them Infected" podcast and book. It is essential to stay informed about the latest updates, guidelines, and recommendations related to COVID-19 and vaccination from reputable sources, such as government health agencies and medical professionals. By accessing and using the content, you acknowledge and accept the terms of this disclaimer.   Please consult with appropriate experts and authorities for specific guidance on matters related to health, science, and the COVID-19 pandemic.  

Dr. Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent discuss the growing public health disasters under RFK Jr.'s leadership at HHS. They cover the first measles death of a child in over 30 years, the cancellation of a crucial flu vaccine advisory meeting, and the termination of funding for a promising oral COVID vaccine trial.    Meanwhile, RFK Jr. moves to eliminate public commentary on HHS decisions, and scientific institutions continue to suffer massive cuts. They highlight the Orwellian doublespeak of Vinay Prasad and others who once demanded more RCTs—only to stay silent as Kennedy cancels them.    Finally, they introduce the Bill Cassidy Profile in Cowardice Award, recognizing the senator who had the power to stop this but chose not to. Connect with us further on https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/author/jonathanhoward/  The Fine Print The content presented in the "We Want Them Infected" Podcast and associated book is intended for informational and educational purposes only.    The views and opinions expressed by the speakers, hosts, and guests on the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the creators, producers, or distributors. The information provided in this podcast should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical, scientific, or legal advice. Listeners and readers are encouraged to consult with relevant experts and authorities for specific guidance and information.   The creators of the podcast and book have made reasonable efforts to ensure that the information provided is accurate and up to date. However, as the field of medical science and the understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic continue to evolve, there may be new developments and insights that are not covered in this content.   The creators are not responsible for any errors or omissions in the content or for any actions taken based on the information provided. They disclaim any liability for any loss, injury, or damage incurred by individuals who rely on the content.   Listeners and readers are urged to use their judgment and conduct their own research when interpreting the information presented in the "We Want Them Infected" podcast and book. It is essential to stay informed about the latest updates, guidelines, and recommendations related to COVID-19 and vaccination from reputable sources, such as government health agencies and medical professionals. By accessing and using the content, you acknowledge and accept the terms of this disclaimer.   Please consult with appropriate experts and authorities for specific guidance on matters related to health, science, and the COVID-19 pandemic.  

Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent discuss the disastrous confirmation of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as head of the HHS and the broader failure of medical and political leaders to confront misinformation.    They highlight how figures like Adam Sifu, Jeffrey Flier, and Stanford President Jonathan Levin failed to challenge the growing anti-science movement, normalizing dangerous narratives that have now taken hold in American policy. The gutting of NIH funding, the resurgence of vaccine-preventable diseases, and the continued gaslighting by figures like Vinay Prasad and John Mandrola all point to a grim future for public health. The episode serves as both a reflection on past failures and a warning for what comes next. Connect with us further on https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/author/jonathanhoward/  The Fine Print The content presented in the "We Want Them Infected" Podcast and associated book is intended for informational and educational purposes only.    The views and opinions expressed by the speakers, hosts, and guests on the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the creators, producers, or distributors. The information provided in this podcast should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical, scientific, or legal advice. Listeners and readers are encouraged to consult with relevant experts and authorities for specific guidance and information.   The creators of the podcast and book have made reasonable efforts to ensure that the information provided is accurate and up to date. However, as the field of medical science and the understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic continue to evolve, there may be new developments and insights that are not covered in this content.   The creators are not responsible for any errors or omissions in the content or for any actions taken based on the information provided. They disclaim any liability for any loss, injury, or damage incurred by individuals who rely on the content.   Listeners and readers are urged to use their judgment and conduct their own research when interpreting the information presented in the "We Want Them Infected" podcast and book. It is essential to stay informed about the latest updates, guidelines, and recommendations related to COVID-19 and vaccination from reputable sources, such as government health agencies and medical professionals. By accessing and using the content, you acknowledge and accept the terms of this disclaimer.   Please consult with appropriate experts and authorities for specific guidance on matters related to health, science, and the COVID-19 pandemic.  

In this episode of We Want Them Infected, Dr. Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent discuss the catastrophic turn of events in public health and science policy under the Trump administration.    RFK Jr. is poised to take control of the U.S. Health Department, the NIH has been gutted, and the CDC is actively censoring critical data. They examine how misinformation doctors like Vinay Prasad and Jay Bhattacharya helped normalize the war on science, how academia failed to respond, and why these cuts will have devastating long-term effects. Finally, they reflect on their own past misjudgments and the lessons learned in this bleak new reality. Connect with us further on https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/author/jonathanhoward/  The Fine Print The content presented in the "We Want Them Infected" Podcast and associated book is intended for informational and educational purposes only.    The views and opinions expressed by the speakers, hosts, and guests on the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the creators, producers, or distributors. The information provided in this podcast should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical, scientific, or legal advice. Listeners and readers are encouraged to consult with relevant experts and authorities for specific guidance and information.   The creators of the podcast and book have made reasonable efforts to ensure that the information provided is accurate and up to date. However, as the field of medical science and the understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic continue to evolve, there may be new developments and insights that are not covered in this content.   The creators are not responsible for any errors or omissions in the content or for any actions taken based on the information provided. They disclaim any liability for any loss, injury, or damage incurred by individuals who rely on the content.   Listeners and readers are urged to use their judgment and conduct their own research when interpreting the information presented in the "We Want Them Infected" podcast and book. It is essential to stay informed about the latest updates, guidelines, and recommendations related to COVID-19 and vaccination from reputable sources, such as government health agencies and medical professionals. By accessing and using the content, you acknowledge and accept the terms of this disclaimer.   Please consult with appropriate experts and authorities for specific guidance on matters related to health, science, and the COVID-19 pandemic.  

Professor Jeffrey Flier is a distinguished service professor and Higginson Professor of Physiology and Medicine at Harvard Medical School. He is the former dean of Harvard Medical School. We talked about the recent (and sudden) change in NIH funding. First a note on Professor Flier. He is not a normal medical school dean. He is active online. He speaks candidly, often critically. He and Vinay wrote together in STAT news during the pandemic. It was a great honor to talk with him for 47 minutes about the NIH news. Here is the Tweet that went crazy viral Friday afternoon. I had only a superficial understanding of grant funding. It turns out that every time a scientist earns an award, the institution receives extra funding known as indirect costs. The extra funds are given to support the infrastructure of the research center. Weirdly, as you will hear, some of the biggest research centers earn the highest percentages of indirect funds. The controversy stems from the sudden and massive cut in these indirect costs. It is an understatement to call the online reaction polarized. It was totally utterly hyper-polarized. Here is Elon Musk. Richard EbrightThere is absolutely no defensible basis for non-uniform indirect cost rates and absolutely no defensible basis for >=60% indirect costs. The previous system was a colossal fraud.Micheal Eisen It's like saying you're going to save money on a football team by cutting all the linemen.Anil Makam Whoa. Better accountability was needed where these expenses went, but this is draconian cut. Many institutions will struggle to support scientific infrastructure.C. Michael Gibson Woah…The government used to pay academic institutions 60% + on top of the costs of research grant to cover “Indirect costs.” That number just dropped to 15%. The viability of US academic medical centers & research is at risk.And of course Vinay Prasad, who also wrote Ten Things to Know about the NIH change. Good! This was the greatest slush fund ever created. It made researchers with NIH dollars invincible. Universities shielding them at all costs, even when research was fraudulent. This money was used to support initiatives, which Americans rejected, like DEI training & admin bloat.Sensible Medicine is a reader-supported publication. This is a free post but please consider becoming a paid subscriber as we aim to remain free of advertising support Here are some quotes I received via email from unnamed NIH funded researchers: A lot of the indirects go to admins who are increasingly important for grant submission process because it is unnecessarily cumbersome. I've been on 3 NIH funded grants. All from the same team. Each one was sillier than the prior.Another person—from the Southern US I submitted an R01 a few months ago and it's difficult to navigate everything alone without admin support. The process for grant submission could be improved a lot And there should be more focus on important questions and more clinical trials.Another—from the MidwestUnless I wanted to study goofy BS, I realized my chances were hopeless. So the only other option was to stay and truly advance in the academy was to align with industry. And yet another from the MidwestThis overhead reduction is long overdue. Universities have been eating at the free buffet for a long time. They will, however, quickly figure out ways to take money away from researchers. I expect that lab space rent, personnel fees, and supply costs that the universities charge the investigators will become much higher in the coming year.Lastly, the US government wants to keep the additional indirect costs, I get that. Universities will find ways to bridge the gap by taking more money from investigators. The initial pain will be at the administrator level, but early investigators will bear the brunt of this in the coming 1-2 years. It's not a great time to be in academic medicine, esp as an investigator reliant on grants. Thank you for your support. Thank you Professor Flier. JMM This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.sensible-med.com/subscribe

Dr. Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent explore the shocking contradictions of those who once claimed to defend scientific dialogue but now cheerlead for mass censorship. They dissect the hypocrisy of figures like Vinay Prasad, Jay Bhattacharya, and Marty Makary—who spent years railing against censorship but remain silent as the new administration muzzles scientists, cancels NIH study sections, and defunds critical research.    They also examine Prasad's crude, vengeful rhetoric and the complicity of his defenders, who tone-police critics while tolerating his unprofessionalism.   Connect with us further on https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/author/jonathanhoward/  The Fine Print The content presented in the "We Want Them Infected" Podcast and associated book is intended for informational and educational purposes only.    The views and opinions expressed by the speakers, hosts, and guests on the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the creators, producers, or distributors. The information provided in this podcast should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical, scientific, or legal advice. Listeners and readers are encouraged to consult with relevant experts and authorities for specific guidance and information.   The creators of the podcast and book have made reasonable efforts to ensure that the information provided is accurate and up to date. However, as the field of medical science and the understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic continue to evolve, there may be new developments and insights that are not covered in this content.   The creators are not responsible for any errors or omissions in the content or for any actions taken based on the information provided. They disclaim any liability for any loss, injury, or damage incurred by individuals who rely on the content.   Listeners and readers are urged to use their judgment and conduct their own research when interpreting the information presented in the "We Want Them Infected" podcast and book. It is essential to stay informed about the latest updates, guidelines, and recommendations related to COVID-19 and vaccination from reputable sources, such as government health agencies and medical professionals. By accessing and using the content, you acknowledge and accept the terms of this disclaimer.   Please consult with appropriate experts and authorities for specific guidance on matters related to health, science, and the COVID-19 pandemic.  

UCSF epidemiology and biostatistics professor Vinay Prasad's star rose when he compared the US response to Covid-19 to the beginnings of the Third Reich in October, 2021. Though a less famous contrarian than others in the MAHA sphere, the hematologist-oncologist has honed his social media trolling over the past few years, always ready for a fight, evidence be damned. Derek and Julian look at two recent videos that signal Prasad might be angling for a position in a potential RFK Jr-run HHS—and all the misinformation he continues to spread. Show Notes BMJ's Systematic Review on Quarantine Measures Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dr. Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent address the rise of anti-vaccine rhetoric, focusing on RFK Jr.'s potential confirmation to a major public health position. They examine the role of high-profile doctors like Vinay Prasad and Martin Kulldorff in legitimizing RFK Jr.'s views and discuss the failure of medical leaders to challenge misinformation. Highlighting past outbreaks and the potential for future vaccine rollbacks, the duo warns of dire public health consequences, especially for children. They criticize platforms that profit from anti-science narratives while urging listeners to contact senators and oppose RFK Jr.'s confirmation. The episode underscores the urgent need for accountability and truth in public health discourse. Connect with us further on https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/author/jonathanhoward/  The Fine Print The content presented in the "We Want Them Infected" Podcast and associated book is intended for informational and educational purposes only.    The views and opinions expressed by the speakers, hosts, and guests on the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the creators, producers, or distributors. The information provided in this podcast should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical, scientific, or legal advice. Listeners and readers are encouraged to consult with relevant experts and authorities for specific guidance and information.   The creators of the podcast and book have made reasonable efforts to ensure that the information provided is accurate and up to date. However, as the field of medical science and the understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic continue to evolve, there may be new developments and insights that are not covered in this content.   The creators are not responsible for any errors or omissions in the content or for any actions taken based on the information provided. They disclaim any liability for any loss, injury, or damage incurred by individuals who rely on the content.   Listeners and readers are urged to use their judgment and conduct their own research when interpreting the information presented in the "We Want Them Infected" podcast and book. It is essential to stay informed about the latest updates, guidelines, and recommendations related to COVID-19 and vaccination from reputable sources, such as government health agencies and medical professionals. By accessing and using the content, you acknowledge and accept the terms of this disclaimer.   Please consult with appropriate experts and authorities for specific guidance on matters related to health, science, and the COVID-19 pandemic.  

YouTuber Dr. Vinay Prasad joins Just Asking Questions Live on Tuesday November 26 at 1 p.m. EST.

Megyn Kelly begins the show by discussing Rep. Nancy Mace's proposal to make sure women's restrooms at the Capitol stay exclusively for biological women, the importance of maintaining privacy and safety for women in public spaces, the solution of gender neutral bathrooms, why now is the time to speak out about protecting women-only spaces from biological men, how Speaker Johnson found the right way to describe the issue and the nuance of it, and more. Then Dr. Vinay Prasad, creator of DrVinayPrasad.com on Substack, joins to talk about what we now know about the COVID vaccines harming young men through myocarditis, the need for a nuanced look at vaccines generally, RFK Jr.'s claims about the potential dangers of fluoride in drinking water, the way other European countries don't put fluoride in their water, RFK's actual views on vaccines and where he's in line with other countries there, the truth about raw milk, and more. Then Dr. Casey Means, author of "Good Energy," joins to discuss RFK's bold plans for reforming the Department of Health and Human Services, his three clear areas of focus, the establishment in DC and in the corporate media terrified of what he'll do, the challenges he'll face from the swamp, the troubling conflicts of interest between the FDA and CDC and Big Ag and Pharma, how the revolving door hurts Americans while lining the pockets of those in power, the truth about the chronic disease epidemic in America, the growing trend of legacy media attempting to rehabilitate the ultra-processed food industry, the real motivations behind this narrative shift, the truth about seed oils and toxins in our food, and more.Prasad- https://www.drvinayprasad.com/Means-https://www.amazon.com/Good-Energy-Surprising-Connection-Metabolism/dp/0593712641Kettle & Fire: For a limited time, get 15% off at http://kettleandfire.com/MKJust Thrive: Save 20% Sitewide at https://JustThriveHealth.com/Discount/Megyn  or use code MEGYN at checkoutFollow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow

Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent trace the evolution of COVID-19 discourse from the early calls for open scientific debate to the current atmosphere of hostility and revenge.    They examine the shift in tone from figures like Vinay Prasad, who initially warned against demonizing heterodox views, to now using inflammatory language that fuels public outrage against scientists and public health officials. The discussion highlights the rise of dangerous populist narratives that threaten the integrity of the public health system, with explicit calls for purges, prosecutions, and dismantling of vaccine mandates.    Drawing historical comparisons to Soviet pseudoscience, Howard and Orent emphasize the alarming potential for misuse of political power against scientists, underscoring the risk to future pandemic responses and public trust in vaccines. The episode ends with Howard's anticipation of his upcoming debate against Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, where he plans to use the very words of the Great Barrington Declaration proponents to expose their inconsistencies. Connect with us further on https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/author/jonathanhoward/  The Fine Print The content presented in the "We Want Them Infected" Podcast and associated book is intended for informational and educational purposes only.    The views and opinions expressed by the speakers, hosts, and guests on the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the creators, producers, or distributors. The information provided in this podcast should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical, scientific, or legal advice. Listeners and readers are encouraged to consult with relevant experts and authorities for specific guidance and information.   The creators of the podcast and book have made reasonable efforts to ensure that the information provided is accurate and up to date. However, as the field of medical science and the understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic continue to evolve, there may be new developments and insights that are not covered in this content.   The creators are not responsible for any errors or omissions in the content or for any actions taken based on the information provided. They disclaim any liability for any loss, injury, or damage incurred by individuals who rely on the content.   Listeners and readers are urged to use their judgment and conduct their own research when interpreting the information presented in the "We Want Them Infected" podcast and book. It is essential to stay informed about the latest updates, guidelines, and recommendations related to COVID-19 and vaccination from reputable sources, such as government health agencies and medical professionals. By accessing and using the content, you acknowledge and accept the terms of this disclaimer.   Please consult with appropriate experts and authorities for specific guidance on matters related to health, science, and the COVID-19 pandemic.  

In this pre-election episode of We Want Them Infected, hosts Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent discuss the alarming potential of RFK Jr. assuming control over America's key health agencies under a Trump administration. With stakes high for the election, the episode dissects the anti-vaccine rhetoric and misinformation strategies that could influence policies affecting public health, and they delve into statements made by RFK Jr. and supporting figures like Dr. Vinay Prasad and Dr. Marty McCary.    The episode stresses the importance of awareness and voting, as potential outcomes could reshape America's public health landscape.In this pre-election episode of We Want Them Infected, hosts Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent discuss the alarming potential of RFK Jr. assuming control over America's key health agencies under a Trump administration.    With stakes high for the election, the episode dissects the anti-vaccine rhetoric and misinformation strategies that could influence policies affecting public health, and they delve into statements made by RFK Jr. and supporting figures like Dr. Vinay Prasad and Dr. Marty McCary. The episode stresses the importance of awareness and voting, as potential outcomes could reshape America's public health landscape. Connect with us further on https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/author/jonathanhoward/  The Fine Print The content presented in the "We Want Them Infected" Podcast and associated book is intended for informational and educational purposes only.    The views and opinions expressed by the speakers, hosts, and guests on the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the creators, producers, or distributors. The information provided in this podcast should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical, scientific, or legal advice. Listeners and readers are encouraged to consult with relevant experts and authorities for specific guidance and information.   The creators of the podcast and book have made reasonable efforts to ensure that the information provided is accurate and up to date. However, as the field of medical science and the understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic continue to evolve, there may be new developments and insights that are not covered in this content.   The creators are not responsible for any errors or omissions in the content or for any actions taken based on the information provided. They disclaim any liability for any loss, injury, or damage incurred by individuals who rely on the content.   Listeners and readers are urged to use their judgment and conduct their own research when interpreting the information presented in the "We Want Them Infected" podcast and book. It is essential to stay informed about the latest updates, guidelines, and recommendations related to COVID-19 and vaccination from reputable sources, such as government health agencies and medical professionals. By accessing and using the content, you acknowledge and accept the terms of this disclaimer.   Please consult with appropriate experts and authorities for specific guidance on matters related to health, science, and the COVID-19 pandemic.  

"Masking Mistakes: Lessons from the Science, Policy, and Coverage of COVID-19", the 2024 Brian Shields Lecture on Institutional Ethics which took place on Monday, October 7, 2024 for the Emory Center for Ethics. A conversation with Carlos Del Rio, MD and Vinay Prasad, MD MPH with moderation by Gerard Vong, DPhil, Director of the MA in Bioethics program.

In this episode, the discussion centers around the spread of misinformation about COVID-19 and vaccines by certain doctors, with a specific focus on Dr. Vinay Prasad.  Dr. Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent critique Dr. Prasad's approach to public discourse about the pandemic, pointing out his contradictory statements and apparent disregard for scientific evidence regarding the effectiveness of vaccines in children. They highlight how Dr. Prasad's fear-mongering over vaccine side effects predates any actual data on pediatric vaccines, suggesting a bias that undermines public health efforts. The episode underscores the dangers of such misinformation, particularly when it influences public perception and behavior during a global health crisis. Connect with us further on https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/author/jonathanhoward/    The Fine Print The content presented in the "We Want Them Infected" Podcast and associated book is intended for informational and educational purposes only.    The views and opinions expressed by the speakers, hosts, and guests on the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the creators, producers, or distributors. The information provided in this podcast should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical, scientific, or legal advice. Listeners and readers are encouraged to consult with relevant experts and authorities for specific guidance and information.   The creators of the podcast and book have made reasonable efforts to ensure that the information provided is accurate and up to date. However, as the field of medical science and the understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic continue to evolve, there may be new developments and insights that are not covered in this content.   The creators are not responsible for any errors or omissions in the content or for any actions taken based on the information provided. They disclaim any liability for any loss, injury, or damage incurred by individuals who rely on the content.   Listeners and readers are urged to use their judgment and conduct their own research when interpreting the information presented in the "We Want Them Infected" podcast and book. It is essential to stay informed about the latest updates, guidelines, and recommendations related to COVID-19 and vaccination from reputable sources, such as government health agencies and medical professionals. By accessing and using the content, you acknowledge and accept the terms of this disclaimer.   Please consult with appropriate experts and authorities for specific guidance on matters related to health, science, and the COVID-19 pandemic.  

Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent critically examine the premature declarations of herd immunity made by various doctors during the COVID-19 pandemic. They revisit statements by Dr. Marty McCary, Dr. Monica Gandhi, Dr. Lucy McBride, and others who incorrectly claimed that the pandemic was nearly over, even as new variants like Delta and Omicron emerged. The hosts discuss the impact of these false claims on public health and trust in medical professionals, emphasizing the need for accurate information and responsible communication. They explore how these declarations contributed to complacency and undermined efforts to control the virus. The episode underscores the importance of accountability and the role of hindsight in evaluating past public health strategies.   Resources Great Barrington Declaration Articles by Dr. Marty McCary: "Natural immunity to COVID is powerful. Policymakers seem afraid to say so." "We'll have herd immunity by April." "Risk of COVID is now very low. It's time to stop living in fear." "The Power of Natural Immunity" Articles by Dr. Monica Gandhi: "Stop panicking about COVID-19 variants" "The reassuring data on the Delta variant" "The cautious case for COVID optimism" Article by Dr. Lucy McBride: "I've been yearning for an end of the pandemic. Now that it's here, I'm a little afraid." Dr. John Mandrola's tweets and articles on the end of the pandemic Scott Atlas's articles: "Reentry After the Panic, Paying the Health Price of Extreme Isolation" "The Data Is In, Stop the Panic and End the Total Isolation" Urgency of Normal initiative Vinay Prasad's tweets and articles on the end of the pandemic Videos and interviews from various media outlets featuring the mentioned doctors Twitter feeds and public statements of the discussed doctors for further context. Connect with us further on https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/author/jonathanhoward/  The Fine Print The content presented in the "We Want Them Infected" Podcast and associated book is intended for informational and educational purposes only.    The views and opinions expressed by the speakers, hosts, and guests on the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the creators, producers, or distributors. The information provided in this podcast should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical, scientific, or legal advice. Listeners and readers are encouraged to consult with relevant experts and authorities for specific guidance and information.   The creators of the podcast and book have made reasonable efforts to ensure that the information provided is accurate and up to date. However, as the field of medical science and the understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic continue to evolve, there may be new developments and insights that are not covered in this content.   The creators are not responsible for any errors or omissions in the content or for any actions taken based on the information provided. They disclaim any liability for any loss, injury, or damage incurred by individuals who rely on the content.   Listeners and readers are urged to use their judgment and conduct their own research when interpreting the information presented in the "We Want Them Infected" podcast and book. It is essential to stay informed about the latest updates, guidelines, and recommendations related to COVID-19 and vaccination from reputable sources, such as government health agencies and medical professionals. By accessing and using the content, you acknowledge and accept the terms of this disclaimer.   Please consult with appropriate experts and authorities for specific guidance on matters related to health, science, and the COVID-19 pandemic.  

Dr. Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent discuss Jonathan's recent experience of being cancelled, censored, and silenced. Jonathan shares his story about being disinvited from speaking at a conference because his talk was considered "too political." The conference organizers, fearing backlash from powerful politicians and the potential negative impact on their organization, decided to cancel his talk. Jonathan challenges prominent figures like Bari Weiss, who advocate for free speech, to come to his defense. The episode critiques the misinformation spread by prominent doctors during the COVID-19 pandemic, emphasizing the contrast between genuine scientific discourse and the misleading information propagated by some well-known figures. Jonathan highlights how these doctors, despite their prestigious credentials, have contributed to the spread of COVID-19 misinformation and have influenced public health policies negatively. He contrasts their influence with that of known anti-vaxxers like Kelly Brogan, noting that while the latter's influence was predictable, the former's was more insidious due to their respected positions. The episode also underscores the real-world consequences of such misinformation, comparing it to the imaginary world these doctors seemed to inhabit. Jonathan and Wendy discuss the importance of accurate information and the dangers of allowing political influences to dictate scientific discourse. Key Points: Jonathan Howard's Cancellation: Jonathan was disinvited from a conference because his planned talk was deemed too political and potentially controversial. Challenge to Free Speech Advocates: Jonathan calls on Bari Weiss and other free speech advocates to defend his right to speak and challenge the silencing of scientific discourse. Critique of COVID-19 Misinformation: The episode criticizes doctors like Jay Bhattacharya, Vinay Prasad, and Scott Atlas for spreading misinformation about COVID-19, comparing their approach to that of known anti-vaxxers. Real-World Consequences: The discussion highlights the dangers of misinformation and the impact of political influence on scientific discourse and public health policies. Contrast with Anti-Vaxxers: The episode contrasts the influence of mainstream doctors spreading misinformation with that of known anti-vaxxers, emphasizing the former's more insidious impact due to their respected positions. Resources Mentioned: Jonathan Howard's Articles: Science Based Medicine - Platform where Jonathan publishes his articles critiquing COVID-19 misinformation. Key Figures Critiqued: Jay Bhattacharya Vinay Prasad Scott Atlas Bari Weiss John Ioannidis Martin Kulldorff Jeffrey Flier Referenced Media: JAMA Network - Journal of the American Medical Association, which hosted an interview with Jay Bhattacharya. The Hill - Publication that featured Scott Atlas's article "Re-entry after the panic." Related Movements and Concepts: "We Want Them Infected" Movement - Refers to the controversial approach of deliberately infecting young and healthy individuals to achieve herd immunity. Anti-Vaccine Movement - Mentioned in relation to Kelly Brogan and the disinformation dozen identified by the Center for Countering Digital Hate. By exploring these topics and resources, listeners can gain a deeper understanding of the complexities and controversies surrounding the COVID-19 pandemic and the broader implications for scientific discourse and public health.   Connect with us further on https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/author/jonathanhoward/  The Fine Print The content presented in the "We Want Them Infected" Podcast and associated book is intended for informational and educational purposes only.    The views and opinions expressed by the speakers, hosts, and guests on the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the creators, producers, or distributors. The information provided in this podcast should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical, scientific, or legal advice. Listeners and readers are encouraged to consult with relevant experts and authorities for specific guidance and information.   The creators of the podcast and book have made reasonable efforts to ensure that the information provided is accurate and up to date. However, as the field of medical science and the understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic continue to evolve, there may be new developments and insights that are not covered in this content.   The creators are not responsible for any errors or omissions in the content or for any actions taken based on the information provided. They disclaim any liability for any loss, injury, or damage incurred by individuals who rely on the content.   Listeners and readers are urged to use their judgment and conduct their own research when interpreting the information presented in the "We Want Them Infected" podcast and book. It is essential to stay informed about the latest updates, guidelines, and recommendations related to COVID-19 and vaccination from reputable sources, such as government health agencies and medical professionals. By accessing and using the content, you acknowledge and accept the terms of this disclaimer.   Please consult with appropriate experts and authorities for specific guidance on matters related to health, science, and the COVID-19 pandemic.  

Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent dive into the pro-infection movement that supports infecting unvaccinated children to achieve herd immunity. They discuss the recent conviction of Trump and the public's reaction, highlighting the parallels between political and medical misinformation.  The episode critically examines statements made by figures like Dr. Scott Atlas and Dr. Vinay Prasad, pointing out their inconsistencies and the potential harm of their advocacy. The hosts stress the importance of relying on scientific evidence and the dangers posed by spreading misleading information.   Resources CDC COVID-19 Information: CDC World Health Organization (WHO) COVID-19 Updates: WHO Johns Hopkins University COVID-19 Tracker: Johns Hopkins Science-Based Medicine Articles: Science-Based Medicine FDA COVID-19 Vaccine Information: FDA Dr. Scott Atlas Interview with Tucker Carlson: Tucker Carlson Interview Vinay Prasad's Articles on COVID-19: Vinay Prasad ZDoggMD YouTube Channel: ZDoggMD Dr. John Ioannidis's Research: John Ioannidis National Institute of Health (NIH) COVID-19 Resources: NIH Connect with us further on https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/author/jonathanhoward/  The Fine Print The content presented in the "We Want Them Infected" Podcast and associated book is intended for informational and educational purposes only.    The views and opinions expressed by the speakers, hosts, and guests on the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the creators, producers, or distributors. The information provided in this podcast should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical, scientific, or legal advice. Listeners and readers are encouraged to consult with relevant experts and authorities for specific guidance and information.   The creators of the podcast and book have made reasonable efforts to ensure that the information provided is accurate and up to date. However, as the field of medical science and the understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic continue to evolve, there may be new developments and insights that are not covered in this content.   The creators are not responsible for any errors or omissions in the content or for any actions taken based on the information provided. They disclaim any liability for any loss, injury, or damage incurred by individuals who rely on the content.   Listeners and readers are urged to use their judgment and conduct their own research when interpreting the information presented in the "We Want Them Infected" podcast and book. It is essential to stay informed about the latest updates, guidelines, and recommendations related to COVID-19 and vaccination from reputable sources, such as government health agencies and medical professionals. By accessing and using the content, you acknowledge and accept the terms of this disclaimer.   Please consult with appropriate experts and authorities for specific guidance on matters related to health, science, and the COVID-19 pandemic.  

Vivek and Dr. Vinay Prasad discuss whether American patients are better off or worse off today because of the existence and the mandate of the FDA, or any other health-focused agencies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Covid vaccine saved many lives but so many mistakes were made in how public health officials discussed it, implemented it, and assessed its effectiveness. Epidemiologist Vinay Prasad of the University of California, San Francisco talks with EconTalk's Russ Roberts about what went wrong, the costs of the mistakes that were made, and what we can do better the next time.

Dr. Bob sat down recently with the renowned Dr. Vinay Prasad, a professor of epidemiology and biostatistics at UCSF and an expert in hematology oncology to look back on the policies of the last several years. Dr. Prasad, who has authored over 400 peer-reviewed papers and two influential books, unpacks the COVID-19 pandemic, the government's response, mask mandates, and the loss of public faith in the government and medical establishment. Dr. Prasad criticizes the misleading messaging and overconfidence of scientists during the pandemic, emphasizing the importance of considering trade-offs and providing accurate information. He questions the effectiveness of mask mandates and highlights the need for evidence-based decision-making.  Dr. Prasad also shares his insights on the power of executive orders, and the role of DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) in medical education and its implications for healthcare.  #covid19 #pandemic #healthcare  #hematology #maskmandate #fauci

Dr. Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent tackle the contentious issue of school closures during the COVID-19 pandemic. They explore the narrative that school closures were merely a choice influenced by cautious politicians and unions, contrasting it with the reality that the virus itself forced many schools to shut down. The hosts discuss the devastating effects on students, teachers, and families, highlighting cases of illness, death, and the rise in COVID orphans.    They also criticize certain medical professionals for advocating mass infection strategies and collaborating with child labor proponents. The episode aims to debunk pandemic revisionism and emphasize the real costs of the pandemic on education and public health.   Resources "COVID has left thousands of U.S. children orphans. Few states are addressing the crisis," The Guardian, 2023. "New York City students are missing school in record numbers," The New York Times, 2021. "Child COVID deaths more than doubled in Florida as kids returned to the classroom," Politico, 2021. "Teen Suicide Plummeted During COVID-19 School Closures, New Study Finds," Forbes, 2023. "Let the Kids Work," Jeffrey Tucker, 2016. "Was Closing Schools an Obvious and Colossal Mistake?" Science-Based Medicine, 2022. "We Want Them Infected: The Realities of COVID-19 School Policies," We Want Them Infected Podcast, 2024. "The case against COVID tests for the young and healthy," Jay Bhattacharya and Martin Kulldorf, 2020. "Should we let children catch Omicron?" Vinay Prasad, 2022. "Leak Brownstone Institute Emails Reveal Support for Child Labor and Underage Smoking," Walker Bragman, 2022. Connect with us further on https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/author/jonathanhoward/  The Fine Print: The content presented in the "We Want Them Infected" Podcast and associated book is intended for informational and educational purposes only.    The views and opinions expressed by the speakers, hosts, and guests on the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the creators, producers, or distributors. The information provided in this podcast should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical, scientific, or legal advice. Listeners and readers are encouraged to consult with relevant experts and authorities for specific guidance and information.   The creators of the podcast and book have made reasonable efforts to ensure that the information provided is accurate and up to date. However, as the field of medical science and the understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic continue to evolve, there may be new developments and insights that are not covered in this content.   The creators are not responsible for any errors or omissions in the content or for any actions taken based on the information provided. They disclaim any liability for any loss, injury, or damage incurred by individuals who rely on the content.   Listeners and readers are urged to use their judgment and conduct their own research when interpreting the information presented in the "We Want Them Infected" podcast and book. It is essential to stay informed about the latest updates, guidelines, and recommendations related to COVID-19 and vaccination from reputable sources, such as government health agencies and medical professionals. By accessing and using the content, you acknowledge and accept the terms of this disclaimer.   Please consult with appropriate experts and authorities for specific guidance on matters related to health, science, and the COVID-19 pandemic.  

The focus of today's episode turned to Dr. Vinay Prasad, a once-distinguished oncologist who has become a leading advocate for the controversial pro-infection movement. Hosts Dr. Jonathan Howard and Wendy Orent criticized Prasad's shift towards advocating for natural COVID-19 infection over vaccination in children, an approach they argue is both unethical and scientifically unfounded. The discussion highlighted Prasad's journey from a reputable medical expert to a figure promoting potentially harmful public health strategies. By tracing his public statements and writings, the hosts illustrated how his views have evolved, seemingly influenced by anti-vaccine rhetoric and the misinterpretation of scientific data. They pointed out the contradiction between Prasad's earlier professional achievements and his current advocacy, which includes supporting exposure to COVID-19 in children as a means to achieve herd immunity. The episode also touched on the broader implications of promoting such ideas, particularly the risk they pose to pediatric health and the potential erosion of public trust in vaccinations and established medical guidance. The hosts argued that this approach could lead to increased susceptibility to preventable diseases, not just for individuals but for public health at large. This stark transformation in Prasad's professional stance serves as a cautionary tale about the influence of misinformation in medicine and the delicate balance required in public health policy. As the debate over natural immunity versus vaccination continues, the episode underscores the importance of grounding public health strategies in robust scientific evidence and ethical considerations.   List of Resources Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC): Updates on COVID-19 vaccinations and health guidelines. World Health Organization (WHO): Information on global health standards and COVID-19 response. Johns Hopkins University Coronavirus Resource Center: Real-time data and expert analysis on COVID-19 trends. National Institutes of Health (NIH): Research and guidelines on COVID-19 and vaccinations. Peer-reviewed medical journals (such as The Lancet, New England Journal of Medicine): Research articles on COVID-19, vaccinations, and public health policy. Books on epidemiology and public health policy: For comprehensive understanding and historical context on pandemics and health strategies. Science Based Medicine: Critical analysis of medical treatments, including debates on vaccination and natural immunity. Connect with us further on jonathanhowardmd.com  The Fine Print: The content presented in the "We Want Them Infected" Podcast and associated book is intended for informational and educational purposes only.    The views and opinions expressed by the speakers, hosts, and guests on the podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the creators, producers, or distributors. The information provided in this podcast should not be considered as a substitute for professional medical, scientific, or legal advice. Listeners and readers are encouraged to consult with relevant experts and authorities for specific guidance and information.   The creators of the podcast and book have made reasonable efforts to ensure that the information provided is accurate and up to date. However, as the field of medical science and the understanding of the COVID-19 pandemic continue to evolve, there may be new developments and insights that are not covered in this content.   The creators are not responsible for any errors or omissions in the content or for any actions taken based on the information provided. They disclaim any liability for any loss, injury, or damage incurred by individuals who rely on the content.   Listeners and readers are urged to use their judgment and conduct their own research when interpreting the information presented in the "We Want Them Infected" podcast and book. It is essential to stay informed about the latest updates, guidelines, and recommendations related to COVID-19 and vaccination from reputable sources, such as government health agencies and medical professionals. By accessing and using the content, you acknowledge and accept the terms of this disclaimer.   Please consult with appropriate experts and authorities for specific guidance on matters related to health, science, and the COVID-19 pandemic.  

Yascha Mounk and Vinay Prasad assess the strengths and weaknesses of America's public health response. Vinay Prasad MD, MPH is a hematologist-oncologist and Professor in the Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics at the University of California San Francisco.   In this week's episode, Yascha Mounk and Vinay Prasad discuss the impact and efficacy of mask mandates and lockdowns; how the stifling of dissenting views among doctors and scientists harmed decision-making; and how we can improve our readiness for the next pandemic. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: podcast@persuasion.community  Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by Jack Shields, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A contrarian doctor “just asking questions.” Super reasonable. Certainly not anti-vax, just a regular guy who grievance-mongers about quarantine measures and mocks people afraid of long Covid. Vinay Prasad cuts a different type of figure on the conspiracy-influencer stage. He fits right in with his pal, the charismatic guru-esque Dr. Zubin Damania, and might just pop up in your YouTube feed alongside Andrew Huberman and Peter Attia. Prasad demands unrealistic randomized controlled trial data for everything on his podcast, including protecting ICU patients from Covid via visiting restrictions. Who's volunteering for that control group?! Julian sits down with returning guest, Dr. Jonathan Howard, the author of We Want Them Infected. They talk about Prasad (among others) who play a sensationalist science-distortion role in the digital economy and their connections to libertarian think tanks like AIER (architects of the Great Barrington Declaration) and Brownstone Institute—who's founder, Jeffrey Tucker, wants to repeal laws around child labor and underage smoking. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The conclusion of our conversation with Dr. Vinay Prasad. Find Dr. Prasad at https://www.youtube.com/@vprasadmdmph and https://www.sensible-med.com/

A conversation with Dr. Vinay Prasad. Find Dr. Prasad's UCSF grand rounds at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1ekHX1T4i0

A conversation with Dr. Vinay Prasad

As we send off 2023, we're releasing a series of some of our favorite episodes of the year—including some newly unlocked episodes that have previously only been available to patrons. This episode was originally released for Death Panel patrons on October 9th, 2023, and is being unlocked today for the first time. To support the show and help make episodes like this one possible, become a patron at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod. Original description: Bea, Artie, and Abby pick apart a recent paper by Vinay Prasad, Tracy Beth Høeg, and Shamez Ladhani claiming that "methodological pitfalls" have led to the prevalence of long covid being “overestimated,” and that the problem with acknowledging high rates of long covid is that it will lead to “increased social anxiety and healthcare spending.” Find our book Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism Pre-order Jules' new book here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/733966/a-short-history-of-trans-misogyny-by-jules-gill-peterson/ Death Panel merch here (patrons get a discount code): www.deathpanel.net/merch As always, support Death Panel at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod

Early detection of cancer seems like a very good idea. But it's a lot more complicated than it seems. Oncologist and epidemiologist Vinay Prasad of the University of California, San Francisco talks to EconTalk's Russ Roberts about why many tests to detect cancer do little or nothing to extend lifespan.

Subscribe to Bad Faith on Patreon to instantly unlock our full premium episode library: http://patreon.com/badfaithpodcast This is the most detailed examination of RFK Jr's statements on vaccines you will hear. Briahna listened to half a dozen interviews in which RFK Jr. discussed Covid vaccines, manufacturer liability, autism, vaccine injuries and more; and invited epidemiologist Dr. Vinay Prasad on Bad Faith to help her call balls and strikes. You may be surprised by what you hear. Can you really call RFK Jr. "anti vaxx?" Subscribe to Bad Faith on YouTube for video of this episode. Find Bad Faith on Twitter (@badfaithpod) and Instagram (@badfaithpod). Produced by Armand Aviram. Theme by Nick Thorburn (@nickfromislands).

*****Watch on Rumble: https://rumble.com/v2vg6l3-bret-and-heather-173rd-darkhorse-podcast-livestream.html***** In this 179th in a series of live discussions with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (both PhDs in Biology), we discuss the state of the world through an evolutionary lens. We begin this episode by discussing the hazards of mind-reading: Does disagreeing with a Day of Absence mean that you are racist? Does being hesitant about Covid vaccines mean that you don't think Covid is a serious disease? Does not wanting trans-identified men in women's shelters and prisons mean that you think that at all trans people are dangerous? Then we discuss shenanigans in Covid vaccine efficacy analysis, which would make even a placebo look like it was effective treatment. And we discuss RFK Jr and Rogan's recent conversation, and responses to it. Is Ivermectin effective against Covid? Are childhood vaccines dangerous? How would we know? Do we have the information that we need in order to figure it out? ***** Our Sponsors: Fast Growing Trees: Healthy, happy trees delivered to your door, with 30 day Alive and Thrive Guarantee. Go to www.FastGrowingTrees.com/DarkHorse to get 15% off your entire order. Mindbloom: at-home ketamine therapy. Use code DARKHORSE at www.Mindbloom.com to receive $100 off your first six session program. Sundays: Dog food so tasty and healthy, even husbands swear by it. Go to www.sundaysfordogs.com/DARKHORSE to receive 35% off your first order. ***** Our book, A Hunter-Gatherer's Guide to the 21st Century, is available everywhere books are sold, including from Amazon: https://a.co/d/dunx3at Check out our store! Epic tabby, digital book burning, saddle up the dire wolves, and more: https://darkhorsestore.org Heather's newsletter, Natural Selections (subscribe to get free weekly essays in your inbox): https://naturalselections.substack.com Find more from us on Bret's website (https://bretweinstein.net) or Heather's website (http://heatherheying.com). Become a member of the DarkHorse LiveStreams, and get access to an additional Q&A livestream every month. Join at Heather's Patreon. Like this content? Subscribe to the channel, like this video, follow us on twitter (@BretWeinstein, @HeatherEHeying), and consider helping us out by contributing to either of our Patreons or Bret's Paypal. Looking for clips from #DarkHorseLivestreams? Check out our other channel:  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAWCKUrmvK5F_ynBY_CMlIA Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music. ***** Mentioned in this episode: Fenton & Neil 2023: The illusion of vaccine efficacy revisited: https://wherearethenumbers.substack.com/p/the-illusion-of-vaccine-efficacy Rogan #1999 with Robert F. Kennedy Jr: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3DQfcTY4viyXsIXQ89NXvg Prasad 2023: What RFK Jr. Gets Right—and What He Gets Wrong: Dr. Vinay Prasad fact-checks the presidential candidate on vaccines, regulatory capture, and more. https://www.thefp.com/p/what-rfk-jr-gets-rightand-what-he FDA: Why you should not use ivermectin to treat or prevent Covid-19: https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19 Marinos dismantles some Ivermectin claims: https://twitter.com/alexandrosM/status/1671412921816203266Support the show