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Have you ever lost the joy in your creative work — that sense of fun you had when you were starting out, before the admin and the algorithms drained it away? How do mid-career creatives get it back, and what can a four-year-old teach us about play? Austin Kleon talks about productive procrastination, silly rituals, the case for paper reference books in an AI world, and how his newsletter went from a marketing cost to the day job that keeps the lights on. In the intro, Does social media still sell books? [Self-Publishing with ALLi]; Trial by algorithm [The Bookseller]; Publishing's AI Hypocrisy Problem [The New Publishing Standard]; ALLi AI survey for authors; Brave New Bookshelf Podcast, and Pics from signing at BookVault. Today's show is sponsored by ProWritingAid, writing and editing software that goes way beyond just grammar and typo checking. With its detailed reports on how to improve your writing and integration with writing software, ProWritingAid will help you improve your book before you send it to an editor, agent or publisher. Check it out for free or get 15% off the premium edition at www.ProWritingAid.com/joanna This show is also supported by my Patrons. Join my Community at Patreon.com/thecreativepenn Austin Kleon is the New York Times and international bestselling author of nonfiction books, including Steal Like an Artist, Show Your Work!, and Keep Going, as well as an artist, professional speaker, and poet. His latest book is Don't Call It Art: 10 Ways to Create Like a Kid Again. You can listen above or on your favorite podcast app or read the notes and links below. Here are the highlights and the full transcript is below. Show Notes Why Austin wrote Don't Call It Art now, and what his kids taught him about creative joy Productive procrastination, silly rituals, and treating writing like Lego Comedy as a philosophical position, and giving yourself permission to be bad in private Sharing process in the algorithm era, and why your whole life is the process Bibliomancy, paper reference books, and what AI can't give you that a dictionary can Style, the Taco Bell distinctiveness rule, and how Austin's newsletter became his day job You can find Austin at AustinKleon.com. Transcript of the interview with Austin Kleon Jo: Austin Kleon is the New York Times and international bestselling author of nonfiction books, including Steal Like an Artist, Show Your Work!, and Keep Going, as well as an artist, professional speaker, and poet. His latest book is Don't Call It Art: 10 Ways to Create Like a Kid Again. So welcome back to the show, Austin. Austin: Thank you for having me back. It's nice to talk to you again. Jo: You were on the show in March 2020, and at the time, your book was Keep Going, which was prescient considering the pandemic and politics. So I wondered, why this book, Don't Call It Art, now? Was this something you see in the creative community or your own life that made you want to write this book? Austin: Keep Going is a book about what happens when the world goes crazy around you and you're still trying to do your creative work. This is a book about what happens when inside has bottomed out. Keep Going is a book about the world bottoming out, and you're worried that your own creative work is going to bottom out too. How do you keep pushing through and keep making stuff? This book, to me, is about what happens when you bottom out inside—when you've lost that love and feeling for the thing that you wanted to do, and you're just not connecting with it in the way that you used to or the way that you want to. How do you get back? How do you return to that sense of joy and wonder and fun that we have when we're starting out? And for me, it was being around my little kids that taught me how to tap into that. My kids were natural—they didn't have any creative hangups. I would spend all day talking to people who had creative hangups, and then I'd get back in the house, and I'd just be around these beings who didn't have any of them. It was really instructive. I felt like, if I could bottle the energy of my kids when they were about four years old and try to put it in a book, I think it could really help a lot of the people that I run into, and the people with the kinds of problems I hear from. Jo: You mentioned bottoming out. How do people know when they've hit that point? Austin: You just don't want to do it anymore. You're kind of like, “This just isn't giving me back what it used to.” When we start with our creative work, that's the thing that juices us. We come away from it feeling full up. I think you hit a certain point where you start to feel drained after it. Or maybe you don't feel drained by the thing itself that you're doing—maybe it's all the stuff around it, which is more often the case. For example, if you're a mid-career writer like me, who's been publishing books for 16 years now, I still really like writing. I still really like drawing. I still really like cutting and pasting and putting things together. It's the admin around the work—the emails, the meetings, the running-a-business part of it—that's super draining for me, and that stuff can start to bleed over into the creative work. So it's really important for me to make sure that I'm having some playtime, some R&D, some research and development time, to make sure it's not just all business. When you take the thing that you love and you turn it into the thing that you make a living from, you can really run into a lot of problems. Jo: I'm at 20 years, so I know exactly what you're saying, and a lot of listeners are the same. We love writing books, but it's all the stuff that goes around it. So for those of us who do this for money as well as passion, what are some practical ways to have more fun with our creativity? Austin: Something I learned from my kids is that you really are your most creative when you're supposed to be doing something else. So one of the things I use a lot in the studio is productive procrastination. Whatever I'm supposed to be working on, I start another little project, and that's my little naughty fun time. When I first come into the studio, I try to do something that I'm not supposed to be doing—something that I won't have much to show for. That could be making one of my blackout poems. That could be making a collage in my notebook. It could also be sitting here. I have a bass in the studio now, so I can practise my bass guitar. Sometimes I'll do that for the first 15 minutes just to get in that headspace of, “Hey, what's it like to do something just for yourself? Just because you want to do it?” The juice that you get from that little naughty “I'm going to do what I'm not supposed to be doing right now” thing, that carries into the rest of the day. It's like a nice start to things. Jo: Do you think that play could be something different to what we make our money with? For me, writing novels and stories is great fun in one way, but it's also what I then publish and make money on. So writing stories is more serious, I guess, than playing with Lego or something. Austin: Right. So the trick is, how can you make writing your stories like playing with Lego? That's kind of been my whole career. I hate staring at Microsoft Word and that blinking cursor, taunting you like, “Come on, what have you got?” A lot of my creative life has been about trying to make it more playful, trying to make it feel more like a game. That's how I came up with my blackout poems. I take an article from The New York Times and I black it out until it only has a few words left behind. It sort of looks like if the CIA did haiku, for some people listening. That was one little exercise. Then weirdly, that side thing that I thought was just play, just fun—that turned into my first book. So then it's, okay, what else can I mess around with and play with? I do a lot of collage work in the studio, and I rarely actually use that for any of the books. Sometimes I use it for my newsletter to illustrate the newsletter. But it's always about trying to figure out, how can I make writing a game? How can I make it more playful? There are different things that I do to make it feel more playful. One of them's really stupid. I really believe in silly rituals because I think silliness is really powerful. People talk about their daily rituals—Mason Currey has that great book, Daily Rituals: How Artists Work. When I was reading that book, I realised it was really the silly stuff that I really liked. There was, I think it was Balzac counting out coffee beans or something before he got to write. Or Steinbeck sharpening 12 pencils or something goofy like that. So one of the things I like to do before I write is that I have these cigarette pencils. They're pencils that look like cigarettes in the studio. I put one in my mouth before I start writing, and I pretend to be some old '40s writer on a typewriter. I like doing goofy stuff in the studio because I think when you do goofy stuff—stuff that you'd be embarrassed if anyone else saw it—it gets you in that playful state. Jo: It's interesting. In your book, you have a section that says, “Don't take things too seriously.” For many of us, we write memoir for example, and that is very close to us. It's like the deepest expression of what we want to say in the world. It feels very serious. So how can we hold things more lightly and not take things so seriously? Austin: For me, comedy is actually a philosophical position. What I mean by that is, I think a lot of people set out with a tragic model of creative work. They think, “Oh, I have this special gift,” or, “I have this thing that I really need to do, and I need to put it out into the world, and I need to make the world look more like I want it to look.” They have this idea that, “Through blood and sweat and tears, I'm going to see this thing through, and I'm going to push it into the world, and I'm going to have my way.” I think there's another way of working where it's more like, “I'm just a normal person trying to play with my environment, and take my experiences and put them into something interesting. So I'm going to play and use my wits, and we're going to see what we come up with.” Those really are two modes of life. The pandemic taught me that it was really when we were keeping our sense of humour, when we were having a laugh and keeping our egos in check around the house and just acknowledging how goofy we all were and how ridiculous the situation was, that seemed to be when we were really thriving. Versus, “Well, we're in this tough situation. We've got to make it into what we want it to be.” That felt really bad. But when we cruised along and we were just improvisational, when we went at things with a kind of lightness, that worked. There's a great Italo Calvino essay about lightness in Six Memos for the Next Millennium. Lightness is really underrated. Even when we're going about heavy work, having a sense of lightness and play with it just makes the work better. That's a philosophical position of mine. I aspire to comedy. I aspire to a comic outlook on life. I'm just a creature with a body who's going to die, and I'm fundamentally ridiculous. Life is pretty absurd. You just make the best of it. Jo: There's certainly some truth there. Staying on a similar theme, you have a chapter in the book on permission to be bad. Many of the listeners also have your book Show Your Work, and it shaped many of us into sharing our work in progress. It feels quite dangerous now, in a world where judgment is much louder than it maybe was when you wrote Show Your Work. So tell us a bit about permission to be bad versus should we keep some of this private? Austin: Permission to be bad is about the making part of things. It's the private part. It's permission to be bad when you're in private, when you're actually doing the work. Show Your Work is a book about what you do after you've done the work, or while you're doing the work. It was never about putting up a webcam and running a 24/7 feed. It was more like, hey, what are the ways that I can connect with the kind of audience I can build while I'm making the work itself? So the way I see permission to be bad is, you really have to give yourself permission when you're not sharing, when you're off screen, to really be as bad as you want to be. It doesn't necessarily mean quality-wise. I think it also means letting yourself write stuff that you would never say on social media. Letting yourself read stuff that you wouldn't admit you were reading on social media. Letting yourself listen to stuff. Letting yourself really be that unfiltered, unhinged, private person that you want to be. Then when it comes to sharing, you put some time in between that input time, that making time, and the sharing time, and then you share what you think is going to be useful or helpful or interesting to other people. Jo: I think you wrote that book before TikTok, and how fast people are moving. Do you think people need to slow down a bit in what they share, maybe? Austin: I don't know. I obviously had a lot more faith in social media back then. I use all the principles from Show Your Work in my newsletter. Newsletters are very much the new kind of great thing. They're doing a lot of the work that social media used to do, in that you're still able to have this direct connection with the people that you're trying to reach. The big problem with social media now is that it's all algorithmically tuned, where the people that are following you don't see the stuff that you're doing most of the time. What you have to do now, if you want the people who are following you to see your stuff on social media, is you have to make stuff that the algorithm likes. That's a whole different thing. As far as the Show Your Work principle—which is share your process as much as your product—that carries over to any platform. In my newsletter every Friday, I share a list of 10 things that were going on behind the scenes here. It might have been what I was watching on TV, what I listened to, a new pen I was trying out, or something like that. The Friday newsletter is almost always process stuff. When I talk about process, my definition is actually very broad. For a lot of people, it's drafting, editing, whatever. For me, the process is the whole life. The process is almost everything except the finished thing. A writer's life is 24/7. My friends who have real jobs really are like, “What do you do all day?” And I'm like, “Well, what do you mean?” They're like, “Well, I see you out on your bike ride.” I'm like, “Yes, when you see me out on a bike ride, I'm thinking through something half the time.” If I'm watching TV, I'm thinking, “Hey, would this be good in the newsletter?” I'm never off. My whole life—everything is copy, as Nora Ephron said. That's part of the job. It's very hard to turn off. So I see the whole life as process, and the question becomes, what little bits and pieces of that life and that process can you share with people while you're making the things that you hope to sell them later? Right now, I'm in a cycle where I'm selling this book, but all these people have showed up because I've shared my process every week for the past seven years since I put out a book. Jo: It's funny you say that. I was at the dentist yesterday, and— My dentist literally asked me, “So where do you get all your ideas?” This is a common question for all of us, right? And it just becomes so hard to explain that to people who don't walk around in the world just constantly getting ideas. Austin: I can't believe I'm going to tell this story. I was getting my vasectomy after my second kid, and I was talking to this doctor just before the operation. He said, “So what do you do for a living?” I said, “I'm a writer.” He said, “Oh, that must be cool. You get to use your brain.” And I said, “That's everything that you want your doctor to say.” I was going to say, “Please use your brain,” before he's about to cut into you. He said, “Oh, no, no. What I mean is, I know what I'm going to do every day for the next 10 years.” He knew exactly what his day was going to look like. He said, “You have to use your brain. You've got to figure out new stuff.” I was like, “Oh, that's really interesting.” That's the trade-off, right? He's got the job security. He knows what he's going to do. Every writer has a moment where they have to talk to a normal person about what you do. Jo: I was going to say, I'm married to one. Austin: Now, my wife, on the other hand, grew up the daughter of a writer, so she knows exactly what it's like. Nothing ever phases her. She's totally used to it. She's used to me staring off into space, completely checking out of a conversation. She's used to me using lines on her that I'm going to put in a piece later. She's used to the whole rigmarole. It's very handy. I've been very lucky in that sense. Jo: Coming back to the book, you talk about your use of bibliomancy for inspiration. Since we're talking about that, tell us about it. I think all the book people listening will be happy. Austin: I'm a person who still keeps a dictionary nearby—a paper dictionary. I keep a big old American Heritage. It's just a big, thick book. When I really don't have any ideas, I will turn at random to the dictionary, close my eyes, stick my finger down the page, open my eyes, and just see what I come up with. Sometimes just that act will give me an idea. I also do that with books. I'll go around the studio, pick up a book, flip to a random page, and just see what it says there, or read an old piece of marginalia that I've left in a book. I believe deeply in the power of bibliomancy, and I think it's a case for paper books. I'm one of those people that still really believes in reference books. I've started collecting more and more of them. I have an old, big dictionary that's always open on my desk, and I look up words. I learned from John McPhee, the writer, that you should look up words that you think you know. That was the first time I'd ever heard anyone say that. So I look up words that I think I know. Instead of reaching for a thesaurus when I need a different word, I actually just look up the definition of the word that I already have. That's another McPhee tip. The other thing that happened that I thought was really interesting is, I got a Roget's for the first time—a thesaurus. I don't think most people know what an actual thesaurus is. Most people think of a thesaurus as a synonym finder, and that's not actually what a thesaurus is at all. A thesaurus is more like an encyclopaedia, weirdly. You look up things based on big concepts, and then it gives you a bunch of words to look up later. It's a very strange thing. It's not what most people think it is. I have a couple of editions of Roget's in here. I like the really old Roget's from the 1900s because they actually have opposing ideas facing each other on the page. Do you have an old-school Roget's? Have you ever looked through one? Jo: I don't have one now, but I certainly grew up with them. I was literally just thinking, I wonder if there are ones for Americans and ones for British people, because so often we say different things and mean different things. I always hear Americans say, “Oh, that's a doozy,” or something, and it means the complete opposite thing here. Austin: Like if you say “fanny pack” over there. That means something very different than it means here, right? Chips or fries, that kind of stuff. So I wonder if there are different ones for different cultural references. Jo: I don't know. Austin: As people, with ChatGPT and all these LLMs and stuff, people are like, “Why would you ever pick up a paper reference book?” And I'm like, “I actually like the friction.” I like having to move in space and go over to my dictionary. I like flipping the pages. I like having to scan a page for the word I'm looking for, because— This marvellous thing happens when you're looking for the word, where you bump into all these other words. If you're a word nerd, you get to start thinking about the root of the word—oh, why is this word next to this word? Well, it's because they share the same root. Then you're going down all these fun rabbit holes. The thing that I'm trying to do as a writer and a creative person is, I'm trying to get to the thing that I didn't know I was looking for. The thing that people misunderstand about AI, I think personally, is that it's a great tool if you know what you're looking for. If you're like, “Find me this thing. I want exactly this. I want to see a picture of a dog wearing a king's costume,” or some crap like that, then it can spit that picture out for you. Or, “I want to know what happened on this day,” and whatever. It can do that. But that's not actually what I'm doing most of the time when I'm writing or making something. I start with an idea, but what really happens—the magic of writing and the magic of making stuff in general—is when you discover something that you didn't even know you were headed for. That's the real magic for me. Sometimes I have an idea and I want to articulate it for people, but more often than not, there's something that bothers me or something that I want to talk about, and I sit down and write, and I figure out what it is that I actually have to say and what I actually think. Every writer really knows this, and that's why the dictionary, stuff like that, those are ways of training you to get in that discovery mode. “Well, let me—oh, I bumped into this. I went looking for this one thing and then I ran into this other thing.” That's why I love the library. I don't know what system you use over there, but you look for one book in the Dewey Decimal System over here, and then, okay, here's all these other weird books next to it. Then you end up with three other books other than the one that you were looking for. That's the magic. To me, that's the magic of creative work, discovering what you didn't know you were looking for. That was particularly important for me when I was writing this book because we discovered that my wife has a condition called aphantasia. It's very rare in the population, about 2 to 3% of people. There's probably some people listening to this right now who are like, “What is this? Tell me.” Jo: Aphantasia actually more common in the creative industries. Austin: Yes. What it is, is that you don't see—when I say close your eyes and picture an apple, you don't actually see the apple in your head. You can think about an apple and the qualities of an apple, but you don't actually see it. Some people, and it's a matter of degree—some people like me, I can close my eyes, I can tell you what the apple looks like, I can tell you what colour it is, I can tell you where the shading is. Someone like my wife doesn't see the apple. She can tell you what an apple is. It's really interesting because she has a degree in architecture, which is known as a very visual field. But the thing you discover about aphantasia is, it doesn't keep people from becoming artists. In fact, it's the opposite. Someone like Ed Catmull, who co-founded Pixar, writes about it in his book, and so many of the great animators at Pixar are actually aphantasics. The reason is that they learned that they had to draw in order to see things. When you don't have a picture in your head of what you want something to look like, things appear in the drawing, and you find things that you couldn't even picture. A lot of writers actually are aphantasics. John Green discovered recently that he has aphantasia. It turns out that it's a superpower for writers, because if you don't have a picture in your head, then you don't have to translate that picture into words. A lot of writers talk about thinking in radio, like they have a constant narrator. My wife—she's probably going to kill me for talking about her this much—when she describes it to me, she's like, “Oh, it's like a radio in my head. I'm constantly hearing a voice, and it's a narrator.” I was like, “Holy shit, that would be really helpful to me.” I don't have anything like that in my head. I read Mrs Dalloway for the first time, and I gave it to her and I said, “You've got to read this book. I think this must be what it's like in your head.” And she said, “Oh my God, it is.” Part of the thing that I took away from that experience—this is a long-winded way of getting here—is that I take a lot of inspiration from people with this condition. Most of the people I know in the arts or the creative fields, they set out with this grand vision, and then they start working on the thing and it's nothing like what they had in their head, and they get really depressed: “This isn't what I had in mind.” Whereas if you set out without a picture in your head, and you just start manipulating things and you see what appears, that's more of the comic mode I was talking about earlier. What would happen if we just sat down with our materials and we started playing and we saw what appeared on the page? What if we started typing and saw what appeared, and then we played with that? That's the kind of joy. That's more like how kids operate. Kids are better at that. They're better at reacting to what's actually in front of them, instead of having these grandiose visions about what they're trying to achieve. Jo: Just coming back on the longevity of a creative career. Your books are very distinctive. You have a very distinctive visual style, your handwriting and the way the books are done. I wondered if another part of the ennui, perhaps, or the draining of the later career is that we get trapped into doing something that feels like it looks the same. Or we have a voice, and we're happy in that voice, but sometimes we want to do something completely different. For authors, we have different names. I write under two different names, and that helps. But equally— How do you define author voice, and do you ever feel like doing something completely different to your normal style? Austin: Style, in a lot of ways, is self-plagiarism. Style is the repeated things that we notice in people's work. Hitchcock talked about this in films. Wes Anderson is someone like that—Wes Anderson has a style. I'm sure that he gets really sick of it too sometimes, but you also can't help it in some ways. I thought a lot about this because people worry about style so much. A lot of the time, what we call style is what Adrian Tomine one time said: “Style is just the distance between what's in my head and what comes out of my hand.” I really like that definition. With this book, I was trying to think, “Okay, if I do another book in this series, how can I push things a little bit?” And then I was reading this article about Taco Bell. You guys have Taco Bell over there, don't you? Do you have Taco Bell? Jo: No. Austin: So Taco Bell, for people who don't know, is this American Mexican chain, and they have tacos and burritos and stuff like that. They're well known for making these really insane… it's so American, this company. They make a taco with a Doritos as a shell. Doritos are crisps, I guess. Jo: Yes, we have Doritos. Austin: Okay. I spent time in England, I just don't remember if I ate Doritos when I was in England. Anyway, I was reading this article about Taco Bell. It was really funny. They have an innovation kitchen at Taco Bell, and they have a rule about new products. The rule is called the distinctiveness rule, and the rule is: you can change the flavour or you can change the taste, or you can change the form, but you can't change both at the same time. I got really obsessed with this concept because I thought, “Well, this could be kind of interesting.” If you're someone who's had success and you're known for something, this presents an interesting thing. You could do a complete break and do something completely new, or you could try the distinctiveness rule. Okay, well, what if I play with this idea of taste versus form? What if I change the taste and keep the form? So the idea for Don't Call It Art was, what if I do another one of these books, but the taste is more like if my kids made it? It had the texture of kids' art, it had lots of scribbles in it, it was loose and messy. That was kind of the idea. The actual book ended up being more like the other books. It ended up looking like an Austin Kleon book, because I just can't help that. The thing you said about having multiple names that you write under, that's kind of what I do with the newsletter. I think of the newsletter as very different from the books. The newsletter is this twice-weekly thing where I can be a little bit more of myself. In the books, I'm this very helpful, happy version of myself. It's me, but it's me on my best day. I'm really helpful and interesting for you. The newsletter is still a highlight reel in a sense, but it's a little bit more of my weird everything-I'm-into. It's more of the unclipped version of me. The newsletter becomes a place where I can do a lot of the weird stuff that's much different from the books. I have these little projects going all the time. Sometimes I'll make a bunch of prints and put them online. Sometimes I'll make a bunch of zines on a topic I haven't covered in the book. Sometimes I'll do a mixtape. As someone who's interested in a lot of different forms and genres and just different modes of output, having something like a newsletter has been really creatively fruitful for me. It's kept me from getting too bottomed out with the books because the books do a certain thing for the reader, and as much as I'd love to do a book that was radically different, I also think I've been given a real gift with the form of my books, in that I kind of own the way that they feel and look. There aren't a lot of books that look like those books and feel like those books, and so I like playing with that form. It would be hard to get rid of it now. The pseudonym for me is kind of like the newsletter in a sense. The newsletter is a little bit more of where I get to be wild and wacky. Then the books are a little bit more of a chiselled thing. Jo: The books are perfect examples of the form, as you say, but it's interesting about the newsletter. You mentioned at the beginning that we can be drained by the admin around the work. For many people listening, a newsletter becomes admin. So how does the newsletter fit into your business? The books are traditionally published, they're very professional. How do you have your independent side, and how does all of that work together in your business? Austin: Thank you for asking that question. I run the whole show at the newsletter. The newsletter is just me, and then my wife edits it, and no one else is involved. I don't have an assistant. I don't have a team. It is just me, and that's why I love it. I control everything. I pick who gets in there. I pick everything. I love that. I grew up watching David Letterman over here, and Letterman had a nightly show, and I always thought that was killer. I thought, “Man, what a fun job. You have a show every night where you have a new guest, and you have all these wacky things going on.” It was like a variety show. I always thought that would be really fun, so the newsletter is my version of that. I started the newsletter in 2013, and it was just a Friday newsletter. It quickly became a list of 10 things I thought were worth sharing. I had a friend, Hugh MacLeod, who was like, “Hey, I have a newsletter. It's bigger than any conference you've ever gone to.” He was talking about South by Southwest here in Austin. He's like, “I have a newsletter now, and it's bigger than South by Southwest.” Jo: Oh, I remember him. Austin: He would say, “Every time I have a new print, I put it out, and there's a button, and then they buy it.” He was like, “You've got to get it. This newsletter thing is killer.” This was in 2011 or something. Jo: Yes, I still have his books. Blogging in Your Underwear or something. Austin: Totally. So Hugh's a whole different story, but I was just like, “Oh, I should really get a newsletter.” Letterman always had a top 10 list on his show. I just always thought a 10 list was really fun. And of course the books are lists of 10 too. So it just worked to have a weekly list of 10. It felt good, and it felt like an infinitely repeatable format. What I'm looking for as a creative person is an infinitely repeatable format that can go on and on and on and be new every time. So the list of 10 is something that people know the form of. It goes back to the Taco Bell thing. They know the form, but they're not sure what's going to go inside. They know it's going to be a burrito, but they don't know what's going to be in the burrito, and that's the exciting part. The newsletter, business-wise, was always a marketing cost for about the first eight years of its existence. I paid MailChimp to send it out. Then in about 2021, when I hadn't done a book for a while, my agent said, “You know, you should really think about doing a paid tier of your newsletter.” And this is to his credit, because he doesn't make anything off the newsletter. He said, “There's this thing called Substack now that makes that really easy.” So we moved to Substack in 2021 in October, and I started doing a Tuesday edition of the newsletter that was just for paid people. That grew enough that it's gone from a marketing cost to something that's almost—it's not quite as much as I make on my books, but it's close. And to be candid, my books sell pretty well. So suddenly the newsletter has become this really healthy income stream. The newsletter to me is actually the day job now. The newsletter is what really keeps the lights on. It's also the perfect mix. It's the day job, it's the thing that keeps income coming in on a regular basis, but it's also the thing I like to do the most. I'm not like a traditional writer who likes to just get lost in their book and take years and years and go away. I'm someone who loves to be doing a lot of different things. The newsletter is a perfect format for me. I'm talking myself into not quitting, actually. It's funny. It's gone from this thing that was a marketing cost to now it's a significant part of our income. That journey—such a bad word, journey—that trip has been very interesting. It's been really cool. But I'm also just lucky. I've been really lucky, and I think part of my thing is, I'm always just trying not to squander my luck. Jo: Well, the book is fantastic, and I know people are going to love it. And the newsletter, of course. So tell us— Where can people find you and your books and newsletter online? Austin: The easiest thing to do is to just go to AustinKleon.com, and that has links to everything—the books, the newsletter. I do actually keep an old-school blog still. I'm one of the few people that still maintains their blog and keeps it up to date. I'm hedging my bets because I think in the end everything will come back to a self-hosted website. I think in the end everyone's going to just go back to their little websites, or at least I hope so. Jo: Well, that was great, Austin. Thanks so much. Austin: Oh, thank you. The post Don't Call It Art: Rediscovering Creative Joy With Austin Kleon first appeared on The Creative Penn.

Jason Shiga is creator of the four-volume series Demon as well as many interactive comics. This week, Koom interviews Jason about his page layout strategy, his connections to Adrian Tomine, the pros and cons of comics where the reader gets a choice of paths through the story, his intriguing new project, and more. Jason: Shigabooks.com … Continue reading #859 Jason Shiga: Choosing his own path

Whether it's battling your girlfriend's “seven evil exes," reinterpreting childhood memories or celebrating the beauty of becoming a parent, comics and graphic novels transport readers to different worlds … and help us better understand the one we live in. In the first season of Bookends, Mattea Roach spoke with some of today's leading cartoonists about their work and the inspiration they draw from life. In this special summer edition of the show, we're revisiting Mattea's conversations with Adrian Tomine, Alison Bechdel, Bryan Lee O'Malley, Sarah Leavitt and Chris Ware.Hear the full conversations here:Adrian Tomine: Answering his readers' burning questionsAlison Bechdel on making money and seeing Fun Home in a new lightBryan Lee O'Malley: 20 years of Scott PilgrimSarah Leavitt: Illustrating grief too wide for wordsChris Ware: Inside the sketchbooks of a comics master

Join me for a conversation with Dr. Seulghee Lee (Assistant Professor of African American Studies and English, University of South Carolina) about his recently published book, Other Lovings: An AfroAsian American Theory of Life (Ohio State UP, 2025). Some topics of our discussion include Adrian Tomine's graphic novel Shortcomings (2007), Gayl Jones' novella Corregidora (1975), and the cultural phenomenon of "Linsanity" and the lasting impact of NBA player Jeremy Lin's rise to fame. In Other Lovings, Seulghee Lee traces the presence and plenitude of love embedded in Black and Asian American literatures and cultures to reveal their irreducible power to cohere minoritarian social life. Bringing together Black studies, Asian American studies, affect theory, critical theory, and queer of color critique, Lee examines the bonds of love in works by Amiri Baraka, Audre Lorde, David Henry Hwang, Gayl Jones, Fred Moten, Adrian Tomine, and Charles Yu. He attends to the ontological force of love in popular culture, investigating Asian American hip-hop and sport through readings of G Yamazawa, Year of the Ox, and Jeremy Lin, as well as in Black public culture through bell hooks, Martin Luther King Jr., and Cornel West. By assessing love's positive function in these works, Lee argues against critical regimes, such as Afropessimism and racial melancholia, that center negativity. In revealing what Black and Asian American traditions share in their positive configurations of being and collectivity, and in their responses to the overarching logic of white supremacy, Other Lovings suggests possibilities for thinking beyond sociological opposition and historical difference and toward political coalition and cultural affinity. Ultimately, Other Lovings argues for a counter-ontology of love—its felt presence, its relational possibilities, and its lived practices. This episode was hosted by Asia Adomanis, a PhD student in the Department of History of Art at Ohio State. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/literary-studies

Join me for a conversation with Dr. Seulghee Lee (Assistant Professor of African American Studies and English, University of South Carolina) about his recently published book, Other Lovings: An AfroAsian American Theory of Life (Ohio State UP, 2025). Some topics of our discussion include Adrian Tomine's graphic novel Shortcomings (2007), Gayl Jones' novella Corregidora (1975), and the cultural phenomenon of "Linsanity" and the lasting impact of NBA player Jeremy Lin's rise to fame. In Other Lovings, Seulghee Lee traces the presence and plenitude of love embedded in Black and Asian American literatures and cultures to reveal their irreducible power to cohere minoritarian social life. Bringing together Black studies, Asian American studies, affect theory, critical theory, and queer of color critique, Lee examines the bonds of love in works by Amiri Baraka, Audre Lorde, David Henry Hwang, Gayl Jones, Fred Moten, Adrian Tomine, and Charles Yu. He attends to the ontological force of love in popular culture, investigating Asian American hip-hop and sport through readings of G Yamazawa, Year of the Ox, and Jeremy Lin, as well as in Black public culture through bell hooks, Martin Luther King Jr., and Cornel West. By assessing love's positive function in these works, Lee argues against critical regimes, such as Afropessimism and racial melancholia, that center negativity. In revealing what Black and Asian American traditions share in their positive configurations of being and collectivity, and in their responses to the overarching logic of white supremacy, Other Lovings suggests possibilities for thinking beyond sociological opposition and historical difference and toward political coalition and cultural affinity. Ultimately, Other Lovings argues for a counter-ontology of love—its felt presence, its relational possibilities, and its lived practices. This episode was hosted by Asia Adomanis, a PhD student in the Department of History of Art at Ohio State. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/african-american-studies

Join me for a conversation with Dr. Seulghee Lee (Assistant Professor of African American Studies and English, University of South Carolina) about his recently published book, Other Lovings: An AfroAsian American Theory of Life (Ohio State UP, 2025). Some topics of our discussion include Adrian Tomine's graphic novel Shortcomings (2007), Gayl Jones' novella Corregidora (1975), and the cultural phenomenon of "Linsanity" and the lasting impact of NBA player Jeremy Lin's rise to fame. In Other Lovings, Seulghee Lee traces the presence and plenitude of love embedded in Black and Asian American literatures and cultures to reveal their irreducible power to cohere minoritarian social life. Bringing together Black studies, Asian American studies, affect theory, critical theory, and queer of color critique, Lee examines the bonds of love in works by Amiri Baraka, Audre Lorde, David Henry Hwang, Gayl Jones, Fred Moten, Adrian Tomine, and Charles Yu. He attends to the ontological force of love in popular culture, investigating Asian American hip-hop and sport through readings of G Yamazawa, Year of the Ox, and Jeremy Lin, as well as in Black public culture through bell hooks, Martin Luther King Jr., and Cornel West. By assessing love's positive function in these works, Lee argues against critical regimes, such as Afropessimism and racial melancholia, that center negativity. In revealing what Black and Asian American traditions share in their positive configurations of being and collectivity, and in their responses to the overarching logic of white supremacy, Other Lovings suggests possibilities for thinking beyond sociological opposition and historical difference and toward political coalition and cultural affinity. Ultimately, Other Lovings argues for a counter-ontology of love—its felt presence, its relational possibilities, and its lived practices. This episode was hosted by Asia Adomanis, a PhD student in the Department of History of Art at Ohio State. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network

Join me for a conversation with Dr. Seulghee Lee (Assistant Professor of African American Studies and English, University of South Carolina) about his recently published book, Other Lovings: An AfroAsian American Theory of Life (Ohio State UP, 2025). Some topics of our discussion include Adrian Tomine's graphic novel Shortcomings (2007), Gayl Jones' novella Corregidora (1975), and the cultural phenomenon of "Linsanity" and the lasting impact of NBA player Jeremy Lin's rise to fame. In Other Lovings, Seulghee Lee traces the presence and plenitude of love embedded in Black and Asian American literatures and cultures to reveal their irreducible power to cohere minoritarian social life. Bringing together Black studies, Asian American studies, affect theory, critical theory, and queer of color critique, Lee examines the bonds of love in works by Amiri Baraka, Audre Lorde, David Henry Hwang, Gayl Jones, Fred Moten, Adrian Tomine, and Charles Yu. He attends to the ontological force of love in popular culture, investigating Asian American hip-hop and sport through readings of G Yamazawa, Year of the Ox, and Jeremy Lin, as well as in Black public culture through bell hooks, Martin Luther King Jr., and Cornel West. By assessing love's positive function in these works, Lee argues against critical regimes, such as Afropessimism and racial melancholia, that center negativity. In revealing what Black and Asian American traditions share in their positive configurations of being and collectivity, and in their responses to the overarching logic of white supremacy, Other Lovings suggests possibilities for thinking beyond sociological opposition and historical difference and toward political coalition and cultural affinity. Ultimately, Other Lovings argues for a counter-ontology of love—its felt presence, its relational possibilities, and its lived practices. This episode was hosted by Asia Adomanis, a PhD student in the Department of History of Art at Ohio State. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/asian-american-studies

Join me for a conversation with Dr. Seulghee Lee (Assistant Professor of African American Studies and English, University of South Carolina) about his recently published book, Other Lovings: An AfroAsian American Theory of Life (Ohio State UP, 2025). Some topics of our discussion include Adrian Tomine's graphic novel Shortcomings (2007), Gayl Jones' novella Corregidora (1975), and the cultural phenomenon of "Linsanity" and the lasting impact of NBA player Jeremy Lin's rise to fame. In Other Lovings, Seulghee Lee traces the presence and plenitude of love embedded in Black and Asian American literatures and cultures to reveal their irreducible power to cohere minoritarian social life. Bringing together Black studies, Asian American studies, affect theory, critical theory, and queer of color critique, Lee examines the bonds of love in works by Amiri Baraka, Audre Lorde, David Henry Hwang, Gayl Jones, Fred Moten, Adrian Tomine, and Charles Yu. He attends to the ontological force of love in popular culture, investigating Asian American hip-hop and sport through readings of G Yamazawa, Year of the Ox, and Jeremy Lin, as well as in Black public culture through bell hooks, Martin Luther King Jr., and Cornel West. By assessing love's positive function in these works, Lee argues against critical regimes, such as Afropessimism and racial melancholia, that center negativity. In revealing what Black and Asian American traditions share in their positive configurations of being and collectivity, and in their responses to the overarching logic of white supremacy, Other Lovings suggests possibilities for thinking beyond sociological opposition and historical difference and toward political coalition and cultural affinity. Ultimately, Other Lovings argues for a counter-ontology of love—its felt presence, its relational possibilities, and its lived practices. This episode was hosted by Asia Adomanis, a PhD student in the Department of History of Art at Ohio State. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/critical-theory

Oakland-based graphic artist Hugh D'Andrade, author of the graphic novel “The Murder Next Door,” talks about: His first graphic novel, The Murder Next Door, including what led him to finally making a graphic novel after being a big fan of them for a long time; studying fine art at the California College of Arts and Crafts back in the 1980s, and then going back to the same school, now called simply California College of the Arts, to get a masters in graphic novels; graphic novelists who have been influential to Hugh, including Adrian Tomine from nearby Berkeley, Chris Ware, who he refers to as both a giant and a genius in the field, as well Art Spiegelman, Thi Bui (whom he had as one of his graphic novel professors), Marjane Satrapi, and Phoebe Glockner; how the graphic novelists he's met have generally been very talkative and have quirky sensibilities, but also have introverted streaks which are necessary for long stretches alone that are necessary for producing their work; how he worked on the beginning of his graphic novel while in grad school, where the crits were very nurturing and supportive, unlike crits from back in the day (undergrad); where graphic novel reading falls in our attention economy; the value he puts on the hand-drawn in comics, with modest digital intervention; and how Vipassana meditation, the first chapter of the book, played a big role in Hugh's healing journey…. [the Conversation continues for another hour in the BONUS episode for Patreon supporters] In the 2nd half of the full conversation (available to Patreon supporters), Hugh talks about: the distinction between cartooning and illustration, and how challenging it is to render a person from multiple views in that style; what feedback he's gotten so far, with at least one reader saying that it was ‘very unique,' probably meaning they found it too dark; the roll his parents played (or didn't play) in healing from his trauma (the murder the book is focused on); his trolling of conspiracy theorists on social media (which is described in the book), which came out of his reaction to people making things up about who was responsible for the murder, along with the pros and cons of engaging with a conspiracy theorist; his description of 3 or 4 major career trajectory paths for artists in big art capitals, inspired by his nephew and students and their impending career paths- the A path/A-train: rock star; B path/B train: you have a partner who has a job/supports you financially;  C path/train: artist with a day job;  D-train: you live just outside of a major city, or in a college town, or rural areas; housing in the U.S., particularly in the art capitals (a sort of passion of both of ours) and how he bought a house in East Oakland, a part of the city he had never been in and he'd been living in the East Bay for decades; how he's in a ‘coffee dessert,' meaning he needs to drive at least 10 minutes to get to a good coffee spot, leading to a beautiful paradox: as a participant in gentrifying his neighborhood, he realizes that as soon as that fancy coffee place pops up in his neighborhood, the gentrification will essentially be complete; the neighborhoods Hugh lived in in San Francisco, particularly the Mission, Hayes Valley and the Tenderloin, and their respective reputations and what he experienced living there as an older young person going to punk shows and the like; his friend Rebecca Solnit's book Hollow City, about how gentrification displaces people of color as well as creative communities; we dig quite a bit into the weeds of the housing crisis, and how he lived on the cheap in the Bay Area for years, including getting around by bike up until 10 years ago; and finally he talks about his music show highlights over the years, including his changing relationship to the Grateful Dead over the decades. 

For over thirty years, bestselling author, screenwriter, and New Yorker cover artist Adrian Tomine's work has set the standard for contemporary storytelling. He has published several books of comics and illustrations, including “Killing and Dying,” “Shortcomings,” and his new book “Q & A.” Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mr. Matthew joins Kyle and fellow comedians Casey Moran (@caseymoran11) and Jaclyn Passaro (@joclynpassaro) on an enchanted journey to the city of Long Beach. Also, some extra stuff because that didn't pad out as much as we were hoping it would. Lotta fun stuff!     Weekly Rads: Kyle – Q&A by Adrian Tomine (book) Matt – the acquisition of an Amd ryzen 7 98000 x3d at market suggested price (a bit of a steal)   Check out Burnside playing video games at https://www.twitch.tv/stayindoorsburnside   Get Kyle Clark's I'm a Person: Director's Cut  You can go to www.kyleclarkcomed.bandcamp.com and pay what you want for the full uncut set from “I'm a Person” which includes 20 mins of unheard material, plus an additional 15 minutes of never released bonus live recordings!   Send Us Stuff! We have a PO Box! This Is Rad! / Kyle Clark PO Box #198 2470 Stearns St Simi Valley, CA 93063   Tales from an Analog Future Get it HERE: https://gumroad.com/analogfuturecomic   Get Kyle's album "Absolute Terror" here: https://smarturl.it/absoluteterror       Go to www.Patreon.com/thisisrad and subscribe to send in questions for our Listener Questions episodes, to get exclusive bonus episodes, extra content, and access to the This Is Rad Discord server!   Check out our merch!       Also! Check out merch for Kyle's record label Radland Records  https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/4109261-radland-logo    A lso! Laura started an online store for her art! Go buy all of her stuff!!!  https://www.teepublic.com/stores/lmknight?utm_campaign=8178&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=lmknight    Follow us on social media or whatever! Instagram: @thisisradpodcast @kyleclarkisrad @lmknightart @8armedspidey (Frank Gillen TIR's social media!)  @thearcknight (techno lord Adam Cross)    Twitter: @ThisIsRadPod @kyleclarkisrad @MatthewBurnside @LMKnightArt

If you could ask your favourite author one question, what would it be? If that author is Adrian Tomine, your question might be answered in his latest book, Q&A. The cartoonist talks to Mattea Roach about what he's learned from his readers and why you might want to think twice about becoming a professional cartoonist.

This week on "BETA," ...Hannah Bos and Paul Thureen join us to discuss their critically acclaimed HBO series, “Somebody Somewhere.” Also, best-selling graphic novelist Adrian Tomine, on his latest book, “Q & A,” finds him answering questions from his devoted fans. And legendary record producer and writer Joe Boyd takes us on a journey through global music.

Katie and Sally discuss Abandon the Old in Tokyo by Yoshihiro Tatsumi (Drawn & Quarterly, 2006). Topics discussed include smoking, check fraud, Adrian Tomine, and lots more. Support the show and get bonus episodes and video content at patreon.com/thicklinespod. Follow us on Instagram @thicklinespod. Catch Katie at The L.A. Times Festival of Books on Saturday, April 20: https://tinyurl.com/5eefd5bj

James, Rhys and Joe take a look at Randall Park's directorial debut, 2023's Shortcomings - which actually is based on an Adrian Tomine comic and therefore could have been a reviewed under the old format, but that's what happens when you ask James what he wants to talk about. PLUS: chat about Coyote Vs. Acme, Kevin Smith's Masters of the Universe, and True Detective.Also available ad-free on Patreon at http://patreon.com/cinematicuniverse Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

T...is for Tomine! that is Adrian Tomine, one of our all time favorite graphic novelists, who we've covered on this podcast before (The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Cartoonist, etc). We recently had the privilege of sitting down with Adrian Tomine on Raman's OTHER podcast, Modern Minorities, where superfan Ryan tagged along for a chat...

Conversamos acerca de la adaptación cinematográfica de #Shortcomings, el comic de Adrian Tomine, dirigida por Randall Park. 00:00 - Intro 01:19 - Thanksgiving trailer 07:31 - Bottoms 14:09 - La noche del terror ciego 19:38 - Top Boy 22:49 - The Pope's Exorcist 33:26 - Shortcomings 52:58 - Shortcomings (Spoilers) 1:18:09 - Bye! ---------- Apóyanos en Patreon y recibe dos episodios extra al mes: https://www.patreon.com/join/desmenuzando Síguenos en: Facebook https://www.facebook.com/desmenuzandopod Twitter https://twitter.com/desmenuzandopod Instagram https://www.instagram.com/desmenuzando/ Y en nuestras cuentas personales: Rosa Colon https://linktr.ee/sodapopcomics Mario Alegre https://linktr.ee/marioalegre --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/desmenuzando/support

With the recent release of Shortcomings, the film directed by Randall Park and written by Adrian Tomine, we decided to do one of our comic book movie autopsies! In this episode, we'll be discussing both the film and the original comic by Tomine. Whether you've only read the comic or only watched the movie, tune in to this episode to hear our conversation! We'll warn you in the audio before any serious spoilers. Thanks again to Corey J. Beats for producing our theme music. Check out all of his music on various platforms here: linktr.ee/Coreyjbeats If you have any thoughts, comments, questions, or corrections, we're here. Feel free to hit us up on our socials, or email us! We have a Linktree here: linktr.ee/betweenthegutters

This week on The Treatment, Elvis sits down with Randall Park whose directorial debut is the adaptation of Adrian Tomine's graphic novel Shortcomings. Next, Dr. Stacy L. Smith, founder of the USC Annenberg Inclusion Initiative, joins to discuss the state of diversity in Hollywood. And for The Treat, Justified: City Primeval star Timothy Olyphant talks about an artist whose work moved him.

After last week's episode about Adrian Tomine's latest film SHORTCOMINGS - based on his 2007 graphic novel of the same name - we wanted to share a 2020 conversation frieMMd of the pod Ryan Joe + Raman had on Quarantined Comics, about Tomine's autobiographical work The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Cartoonist. But this is no regular comics geek out - because this marks one of the first real “MM like” conversations Raman + Ryan had way back when in 2020 - where we talked about how this particular comic made us reflect on our own lives. We can't recommend The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Cartoonist enough, so be sure to pick up a copy wherever you get your favorite books. And don't worry, Sharon and Raman will be back shortly with more than a few NON-COMICS minority voices for all our majority ears...LEARN MORE COMIC: The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Cartoonist (2020): goodreads.com/en/book/show/51796259 CREATOR: Adrian-tomine.com POD: Quarantined Comics - qtdcomics.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

After last week's episode about Adrian Tomine's latest film SHORTCOMINGS - based on his 2007 graphic novel of the same name - we wanted to share a 2020 conversation frieMMd of the pod Ryan Joe + Raman had on Quarantined Comics, about Tomine's autobiographical work The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Cartoonist. But this is no regular comics geek out - because this marks one of the first real “MM like” conversations Raman + Ryan had way back when in 2020 - where we talked about how this particular comic made us reflect on our own lives. We can't recommend The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Cartoonist enough, so be sure to pick up a copy wherever you get your favorite books. And don't worry, Sharon and Raman will be back shortly with more than a few NON-COMICS minority voices for all our majority ears... LEARN MORE COMIC: The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Cartoonist (2020): goodreads.com/en/book/show/51796259 CREATOR: Adrian-tomine.com POD: Quarantined Comics - qtdcomics.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I wasn't thinking about an audience. It was a pure outpouring of just whatever came to me. I was rebelliously and ambitiously not giving them the book they were looking for.”Adrian Tomine is an American cartoonist who we've admired** for years. Adrian is the creator and writer of the 2007 graphic novel SHORTCOMINGS, which was a New York Times Notable Book of the year. SHORTCOMINGS was also recently turned into the film of the same name*, which happens to be the directorial debut of Randall Park. Shortcomings premiered at the 2023 Sundance film festival. This is a book and film you need to see. Adrian's been creating comics since he was SIXTEEN - and since then he's become known for not just his comics, but also his infamous New Yorker covers (since 1999!). His artwork and stories have a wry, thoughtful candor about them. From comics like Optic Nerve, Sleepwalk, Killing and Dying, all published from Drawn & Quarterly. Adrian also created graphic memoirs like Scenes From an Impending Marriage, and The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Cartoonist. Adrian's comics have been anthologized in publications such as McSweeney's, Best American Comics, and Best American Nonrequired Reading. In 2022, Adrian's short stories were adapted into the film Paris, 13th District directed by Jacques Audiard, with a screenplay by Céline Sciamma and Léa Mysius. As you'll find in this candid conversation, Adrian Tomine is many things - a cartoonist, filmmaker, husband, father, and reluctant Taylor Swift fan. More importantly, his work will make you think, wonder, and sometimes smile, smirk, wonder, and most importantly feel. *NOTE: This conversation was booked independently through Adrian's book publisher - Drawn & Quarterly, not the film studio, out of respect for the ongoing writers' and actors' strike. Huge thanks to the team at Drawn & Quarterly for arranging this interview with a creator whose work we've loved for so long. **Extra special thanks to Quarantined Comics co-host Ryan Joe for jumping to join Raman Sharon while she was out saving cinematic orphans from the evils of avarice and artificial intelligence.LEARN MORE ABOUT ADRIAN adrian-tomine.com instagram.com/adriantomine FILM / TRAILER: Shortcomings (2023): imdb.com/title/tt14483774 BOOK: Shortcomings (2007): drawnandquarterly.com/books/shortcomings MENTIONS BOOK: Love & Rockets - wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_and_Rockets_(comics) PERSON: Richard Sala - wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Sala PERSON: Daniel Clowe - wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Clowes PERSON: Charles Schultz - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_M._Schulz SHOW: Curb Your Enthusiasm Pilot Episode - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0218388/ Band Cut Worms - allmusic.com/artist/cut-worms-mn0003661980 PERSON: Larry David - wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_David FILMMAKER: Céline Sciamma - imdb.com/name/nm1780037 FILM: Paris, 13th District - imdb.com/title/tt12708658 FILMMAKER: Ari Aster - imdb.com/name/nm4170048 FILM: Beau Is Afraid - imdb.com/title/tt13521006 FILMMAKERS: Coen Brothers - wikipedia.org/wiki/Coen_brothers FILMMAKER: Alexander Payne - imdb.com/name/nm0668247 FILM: Killer of Sheep (Charles Burnett) - imdb.com/title/tt0076263 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

“I wasn't thinking about an audience. It was a pure outpouring of just whatever came to me. I was rebelliously and  ambitiously not giving them the book they were looking for.” Adrian Tomine is an American cartoonist who we've admired** for years. Adrian is the creator and writer of the 2007 graphic novel SHORTCOMINGS, which was a New York Times Notable Book of the year. SHORTCOMINGS was also recently turned into the film of the same name*, which happens to be the directorial debut of Randall Park. Shortcomings premiered at the 2023 Sundance film festival. This is a book and film you need to see. Adrian's been creating comics since he was SIXTEEN - and since then he's become known for not just his comics, but also his infamous New Yorker covers (since 1999!). His artwork and stories have a wry, thoughtful candor about them. From comics like Optic Nerve, Sleepwalk, Killing and Dying, all published from Drawn & Quarterly. Adrian also created graphic memoirs like Scenes From an Impending Marriage, and The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Cartoonist. Adrian's comics have been anthologized in publications such as McSweeney's, Best American Comics, and Best American Nonrequired Reading.   In 2022, Adrian's short stories were adapted into the film Paris, 13th District directed by Jacques Audiard, with a screenplay by Céline Sciamma and Léa Mysius. As you'll find in this candid conversation, Adrian Tomine is many things - a cartoonist, filmmaker, husband, father, and reluctant Taylor Swift fan. More importantly, his work will make you think, wonder, and sometimes smile, smirk, wonder, and most importantly feel.  *NOTE: This conversation was booked independently through Adrian's book publisher - Drawn & Quarterly, not the film studio, out of respect for the ongoing writers' and actors' strike. Huge thanks to the team at Drawn & Quarterly for arranging this interview with a creator whose work we've loved for so long.  **Extra special thanks to Quarantined Comics co-host Ryan Joe for jumping to join Raman Sharon while she was out saving cinematic orphans from the evils of avarice and artificial intelligence. LEARN MORE ABOUT ADRIAN adrian-tomine.com instagram.com/adriantomine FILM / TRAILER: Shortcomings (2023): imdb.com/title/tt14483774 BOOK: Shortcomings (2007): drawnandquarterly.com/books/shortcomings MENTIONS BOOK: Love & Rockets - wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_and_Rockets_(comics) PERSON: Richard Sala - wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Sala PERSON: Daniel Clowe - wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Clowes PERSON: Charles Schultz - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_M._Schulz SHOW: Curb Your Enthusiasm Pilot Episode - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0218388/ Band Cut Worms - allmusic.com/artist/cut-worms-mn0003661980 PERSON: Larry David - wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_David FILMMAKER: Céline Sciamma - imdb.com/name/nm1780037 FILM: Paris, 13th District - imdb.com/title/tt12708658 FILMMAKER: Ari Aster - imdb.com/name/nm4170048 FILM: Beau Is Afraid - imdb.com/title/tt13521006 FILMMAKERS: Coen Brothers - wikipedia.org/wiki/Coen_brothers FILMMAKER: Alexander Payne - imdb.com/name/nm0668247 FILM: Killer of Sheep (Charles Burnett) - imdb.com/title/tt0076263 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

[NOTE: This episode was recorded before the start of the SAG-AFTRA strike. They Call Us Bruce fully supports the actors and writers unions and their fight for fair contracts.] Jeff and Phil welcome Randall Park and Justin H. Min to talk about their new film Shortcomings, based on the 2007 graphic novel by Adrian Tomine. They discuss Randall's directorial debut, parodying Crazy Rich Asians, sandwiches, getting away from the rep sweats and feeling free to make stories about unlovable, messy Asian Americans like Ben Tanaka. Also: The Good, The Bad, and The WTF of making Shortcomings.

Randall Park is even more lovely in person than he is on screen! Ange sits down with him at the Fairmont Hotel in San Francisco to discuss his feature length directorial debut, Shortcomings, based on the graphic novel by Adrian Tomine. The film follows three young  Asian Americans living in the Bay Area as they navigate life, relationships, and (hopefully) their own personal growth.Randall shares his reaction to reading the novel in 2007, AAPI representation through the years, and the great debate that every Asian American has had about the film Crazy Rich Asians. He shares his love for some of the Bay Area musicians that are part of the film's score, and the differences between filming in NY versus Berkeley. Then we go back to his time at UCLA, majoring in Asian American Studies, and founding a comedy troop with friends who he eventually joined forces with to launch the production company, Imminent Collision. Finally, he gets into Hollywood gatekeepers, his work philosophy, and what film he loves that would piss off Ben, the cinephile main character in Shortcomings.Shortcomings opens in theaters on August 4th, get tickets here--on-site audio producer: Josh BrumleyThanks for listening and for your support! We couldn't have reached 10 years, 700 episodes or Best of The Bay Best Podcast without your help! --Be well, stay safe, Black Lives Matter, AAPI Lives Matter, and abortion is normal.--SUPPORT US HERE!Subscribe to our channel on YouTube for behind the scenes footage!Rate and review us wherever you listen to podcasts!Visit our website! www.bitchtalkpodcast.comFollow us on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.Listen every Tuesday at 9 - 10 am on BFF.FM

This week we have reviews of SHORTCOMINGS AND WHAT COMES AROUND! We start by talking about Amy Redford's not-so-thrilling thriller WHAT COMES AROUND (1:56), a story about a teenager (Grace Van Dien) who starts dating a much older man (Kyle Gallner) with a disturbing connection to her mother (Summer Phoenix). Then we discuss Randall Park's directorial debut SHORTCOMINGS (23:00), based on a graphic novel by Adrian Tomine. The film follows Ben (Justin H. Min), a deeply unlikable twentysomething from the Bay Area, as he grumpily navigates interpersonal relationships with his friend Alice (Sherry Cola) and girlfriend Miko (Ally Maki). And in this week's Patreon exclusive audio, we talk about Robert Rodriguez's 1996 action horror comedy FROM DUSK TILL DAWN starring George Clooney, Juliette Lewis, Harvey Keitel, and Quentin Tarantino! 

Most people cringe a little when they look at their younger selves. Cartoonist Adrian Tomine certainly doesn't love revisiting his older work, but he was challenged to do so when adapting his own graphic novel, Shortcomings, for director Randall Park. We're ecstatic to have Tomine on the podcast today, discussing his recent revisitation of a work that gripped both of us when we cracked the page. The creator is generous with his time, process, and internal life. Shortcomings is - what did TNT use to call them - a new classic. It focuses on Ben Tanaka, a viciously judgemental twenty-something whose long-time relationship has suddenly erupted into uncertainty. Hit up your Google machine and find a classic review; no doubt the critic tackling the comic will address the likability issue. We certainly bring it up with Adrian Tomine in our conversation, and his answer is so beautifully Comic Book Couples Counseling. After this conversation, be sure to follow Adrian Tomine on his Instagram and through his Website. Purchase Shortcomings via Drawn & Quarterly or wherever fine comic books are sold. You can find your local shop HERE. The Shortcomings movie arrives in theaters on August 4th from Sony Pictures Classics. This episode is part of our San Diego Comic-Con International celebration. Our chat with Adrian Tomine aligns with Day Two. Listen to our Day One episode with Paul Cornell HERE. Tomorrow, Chris Condon and Jacob Phillips will join us to discuss The Enfield Gang Massacre. On Sunday, Julie Sakai and Stan Sakai will be on the podcast talking about Usagi Yojimbo and all things Dogu Publishing. You better get subscribed to Comic Book Couples Counseling.  And, if you haven't already, now's the time to join our Patreon, where superstar cartoonist Daniel Warren Johnson just recorded an epic chat with us about his favorite single-issue comic, The 'Nam #9. It's all part of our new Patreon podcast series, where we ask cool comic book creators to choose their favorite floppy comic. Other Relevant Links: CBCC Counseling Invincible's Mark & Eve Shannon and Luke Lieberman on Red Sonja Tyler Crook on The Lonesome Hunters: The Wolf Child Brad gust-stars on the Missing Frames podcast Adrian Tomine on Recommend If You Like FINAL ROUND OF PLUGS (PHEW):   Don't forget to grab your tickets for our July 30th Alamo Drafthouse Winchester screening of Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, co-sponsored by Four Color Fantasies.   Don't forget! Watch the latest episode of The B&B Show, where Brad and Bryan Review the Hottest Cinematic Releases.   And, of course, follow Comic Book Couples Counseling on Facebook, on Instagram, and on Twitter @CBCCPodcast, and you can follow hosts Brad Gullickson @MouthDork & Lisa Gullickson @sidewalksiren.   Send us your Words of Affirmation by leaving us a 5-Star Review on Apple Podcasts.   Continue your conversation with CBCC by hopping over to our website where we have reviews, essays, and numerous interviews with comic book creators.   Podcast logo by Aaron Prescott @acoolhandfluke, podcast banner art by @Karen_XmenFan.

The San Diego Comic-Con International is back, and just like last year, we're determined to bring the celebrations to our Comic Book Couples Counseling podcast feed. Whether you're attending the show or not, we aim to bring the con experience to your ears. All week long. Every day of the con, we're dropping one new, rad creator conversation episode. We're kicking things off strong today (Thursday), chatting with celebrated science fiction, television, and comics writer Paul Cornell. His new Ahoy Comics series, Con and On, is the perfect concept to launch our Comic-Con festivities as it celebrates and challenges everything we love about convention culture. Paul Cornell's new book focuses on the Vista Al Mar Comics Festival over five years, spanning three decades. Each chapter in the series covers a different year, returning to various characters as they succeed and fail in the industry. You'll recognize some faces, cheer at their victories, and cringe at their losses. Con and On pulls no punches, but it's not a heavyweight bloodbath either. Only someone who loves this world as much as Paul Cornell could write this book. While there is comedy and heart throughout, there is some anger, frustration, and a drive to advance beyond the tired, old ways. You can follow Paul Cornell on Blue Sky, Instagram, and his Website. Also, check out his Hammer House podcast. Make sure you're subscribed to the Comic Book Couples Counseling feed. Tomorrow, Adrian Tomine joins us to discuss his classic graphic novel Shortcomings and its upcoming adaptation directed by Randall Park. On Saturday, Chris Condon and Jacob Phillips return to the pod, breaking down their new That Texas Blood spin-off series, The Enfield Gang Massacre. Finally, on Sunday, Julie Sakai and Stan Sakai arrive on the pod and show all of us creative couples how to do collaboration right. These convos are the best panels around, and no standing in line is required. And, if you haven't already, now's the time to join our Patreon, where superstar cartoonist Daniel Warren Johnson just recorded an epic chat with us about his favorite single-issue comic, The 'Nam #9. It's all part of our new Patreon podcast series, where we ask cool comic book creators to choose their favorite floppy comic. Other Relevant Links: CBCC Counseling Invincible's Mark & Eve Shannon and Luke Lieberman on Red Sonja Tyler Crook on The Lonesome Hunters: The Wolf Child Lisa's Dear Rosie Review for The Beat Decoder Ring Parmasean Cheese Episode Our Victoria Grace Elliot Interview FINAL ROUND OF PLUGS (PHEW):   Don't forget to grab your tickets for our July 30th Alamo Drafthouse Winchester screening of Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, co-sponsored by Four Color Fantasies.   Don't forget! Watch the latest episode of The B&B Show, where Brad and Bryan Review the Hottest Cinematic Releases.   And, of course, follow Comic Book Couples Counseling on Facebook, on Instagram, and on Twitter @CBCCPodcast, and you can follow hosts Brad Gullickson @MouthDork & Lisa Gullickson @sidewalksiren.   Send us your Words of Affirmation by leaving us a 5-Star Review on Apple Podcasts.   Continue your conversation with CBCC by hopping over to our website where we have reviews, essays, and numerous interviews with comic book creators.   Podcast logo by Aaron Prescott @acoolhandfluke, podcast banner art by @Karen_XmenFan.

With four Mark Grayson and Atom Eve counseling sessions already behind us, we finally reach a conclusion regarding their Invincible relationship. In this episode, we discuss the final two trade paperbacks in Robert Kirkman, Ryan Ottley, and Cory Walker's superhero masterpiece, The End of All Things Parts One and Two. While their ending is definitive, their story seemingly remains ongoing. We must reckon with what we're given and how far these characters have and have not grown since we first met them one hundred and forty-four issues ago.   Also, in this conversation, we establish our last thoughts about our chosen love expert for Mark and Eve, Dr. Marc Brackett, and his book, Permission to Feel: Unlocking the Power of Emotions to Help Our Kids, Ourselves, and Our Society Thrive. Certainly, we'll apply numerous elements from this book to our partnership, but not everything jives with our current journey. Mood meters and meta-emotions, you're absolutely going into our utility belt.   Invincible: The End of All Things contains nothing but Big Emotions, and they're somehow even larger than the usual Big Emotions the series throws at its characters. It's all in the title, and stress levels are extra high when facing oblivion. How do we challenge/embrace life's greatest threats? What can we learn from how Mark and Eve handle them?   Our final Comic Book Couples Counseling Mark and Eve sessions also signify the start of a week-long San Diego Comic-Con International celebration. As you're listening to this episode, we're already traveling to the west coast.   On Thursday, join us back here for an in-depth conversation with writer Paul Cornell, discussing his Comic-Con satire, Con and On. On Friday, we're chatting with Adrian Tomine about his classic graphic novel Shortcomings and the upcoming movie adaptation. On Saturday, Chris Condon and Jacob Phillips return to the show, teasing their new That Texas Blood spin-off series, The Enfield Gang Massacre. Finally, on Sunday, we were joined by Julie Sakai and Stan Sakai, giving us the scoop on all things Usagi Yojimbo and Dogu Publishing.   And, if you haven't already, now's the time to join our Patreon, where superstar cartoonist Daniel Warren Johnson just recorded an epic chat with us about his favorite single-issue comic, The 'Nam #9. It's all part of our new Patreon podcast series, where we ask rad comic book creators to choose their favorite floppy comic.   Invincible issues covered in this episode: 133 - 144, published by Image Comics through the Skybound Entertainment imprint between February 2017 and February 2018. The comic was written by Robert Kirkman, penciled by Ryan Ottley, Cory Walker, inked by Ryan Ottley, Cory Walker, Dexter Vines, and Mark Morales, colored by Nathan Fairbairn, and lettered by Rus Wooton.   Other Relevant Links: CBCC Mark & Eve Episode 1 - Robert Kirkman programs our sessions CBCC Mark & Eve Episode 2 - Modern Family CBCC Mark & Eve Episode 3 - Reboot? CBCC Mark & Eve Episode 4 - Full House Shannon and Luke Lieberman on Red Sonja Tyler Crook on The Lonesome Hunters: The Wolf Child Lisa Guest-Stars on Spec Tales Brad Guest-Star on Missing Frames CBCC Guest-Stars on Comic Book Keepers CBCC Guest-Stars on The Amazing Spider-Talk (Patreon) FINAL ROUND OF PLUGS (PHEW):   Don't forget to grab your tickets for our July 30th Alamo Drafthouse Winchester screening of Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, co-sponsored by Four Color Fantasies.   Don't forget! Watch the latest episode of The B&B Show, where Brad and Bryan Review the Hottest Cinematic Releases.   And, of course, follow Comic Book Couples Counseling on Facebook, on Instagram, and on Twitter @CBCCPodcast, and you can follow hosts Brad Gullickson @MouthDork & Lisa Gullickson @sidewalksiren.   Send us your Words of Affirmation by leaving us a 5-Star Review on Apple Podcasts.   Continue your conversation with CBCC by hopping over to our website where we have reviews, essays, and numerous interviews with comic book creators.   Podcast logo by Aaron Prescott @acoolhandfluke, podcast banner art by @Karen_XmenFan.

Fecha de Grabación: Lunes 6 de marzo de 2023. Algunos temas comentados: C.B. Cebulski y la polémica detrás de Akira Yoshida. El excelente nivel de la obra acumulada de Mark Waid. ¿Por qué Marvel no usa a los personajes de Malibu y Crossgen? Amalgam Comics: Lo mejor, lo rescatable y lo más olvidable. Opus Comics, Frank Frazetta y sus títulos de espada y hechicería. Similitudes y diferencias entre Plastic Man y Elongated Man. Autores que acabaron peleados con Marvel o DC Comics. Además: Corto Maltés (Hugo Pratt), The Power Company (Kurt Busiek y Tom Grummett), Strikeforce Morituri (Peter B. Gillis y Brent Anderson), B.P.R.D. (Mike Mignola y amigos), Marvels Comics, ¡...y mucho más! Comentario de cómics: Killing and Dying, colección de cómics cortos escritos, dibujados, coloreados y rotulados por Adrian Tomine. (Drawn & Quarterly) Comentario de series: The X-Files, temporada 10 de la serie creada por Chris Carter, con episodios escritos y dirigidos por Carter, Glen Morgan, James Wong y Darin Morgan, y protagonizada por David Duchovny y Gillian Anderson. (Fox/Star+) Star Wars: The Mandalorian, primer episodio de la tercera temporada de la serie desarrollada por Jon Favreau y Dave Filoni, escrito por Favreau y dirigido por Rick Famuyiwa, con Pedro Pascal, Carl Weathers, Katee Sackhoff y Emily Swallows, entre otros. (Lucasfilm/Disney+) Pueden escuchar el podcast en este reproductor: Descarga Directa MP3 (Botón derecho del mouse y "guardar enlace como"). Peso: 98.2 MB; Calidad: 128 Kbps. El episodio tiene una duración de 1:46:48, y la canción de cierre es "La Conquistada" de Los Jaivas. Además de nuestras redes sociales (Twitter, Facebook, Instagram), ahora tenemos una nueva forma de interactuar con nosotros: un servidor en Discord. Es un espacio para compartir recomendaciones, dudas, memes y más, y la conversación gira alrededor de muchos temas además de cómics, y es una forma más inmediata de mantenerse en contacto con Esteban y Alberto. ¡Únete a nuestro servidor en Discord! También tenemos un Patreon. Cada episodio del podcast se publica allí al menos 24 horas antes que en los canales habituales, y realizamos un especial mensual exclusivo para nuestros suscriptores en esa plataforma. Tú también puedes convertirte en uno de nuestros patreoncinadores™ con aportaciones desde 1 dólar, que puede ser cada mes, o por el tiempo que tú lo decidas, incluyendo aportaciones de una sola vez. También puedes encontrar nuestro podcast en los siguientes agregadores y servicios especializados: Comicverso en Spotify Comicverso en iVoox Comicverso en Apple Podcasts Comicverso en Google Podcasts Comicverso en Amazon Music Comicverso en Archive.org Comicverso en I Heart Radio Comicverso en Overcast.fm Comicverso en Pocket Casts Comicverso en RadioPublic Comicverso en CastBox.fm ¿Usas alguna app o servicio que no tiene a Comicverso? En la parte alta de la barra lateral está el feed del podcast, el cual puedes agregar al servicio de tu preferencia. Nos interesa conocer opiniones y críticas para seguir mejorando. Si te gusta nuestro trabajo, por favor ayúdanos compartiendo el enlace a esta entrada, cuéntale a tus amigos sobre nuestro podcast, y recomiéndalo a quien creas que pueda interesarle. Deja tus comentarios o escríbenos directamente a comicverso@gmail.com

In this week's episode: John Horn just got back from a cold, crowded Sundance Film Festival where he got to interview some great actors and filmmakers.  One of those conversations: actor, writer, comedian and now first-time filmmaker, Randall Park. His movie Shortcomings is based on the graphic novel of the same name by Adrian Tomine, which he first came across in 2007. Plus my conversation with Sundance programmer John Nein - one of the people who decides what gets into the festival – and what doesn't. Support for this podcast is made possible by Gordon and Dona Crawford, who believe that quality journalism makes Los Angeles a better place to live.  

In this episode of Carolyn Talk..., I speak with Composer and instrumentalist Gene Back about his work on SHORTCOMINGS, the feature directorial debut of actor Randall park. The film which premiered at Sundance 2023, stars Justin H. Min and was written by Adrian Tomine, who also wrote the graphic novel of the same name, the film is based on.Visit Gene's website https://www.genebackmusic.com/, to learn more about his work and projects.Follow me on Twitter and Instagram at: @CarrieCnh12My live-tweet hashtags #DramasWithCarrie #SaturdayNightSciFi Visit Authory.com/CarolynHinds to find links to all of my published writing: interviews, film reviews and analyses, and profiles. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This episode is also available as a blog post: https://thecitylife.org/2023/01/13/prints-by-the-new-yorkers-adrian-tomine-on-view-at-92nys-weill-art-gallery-through-march-13-2023/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/citylifeorg/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/citylifeorg/support

This week we read "The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Cartoonist" by Adrian Tomine, diving deep into the most negative parts of one cartoonist's psyche. We talk about the important place of “sad old man” comics in comics history, mumblecore, lonely book signings, and how cilantro salad is cringe (but only metaphorically). Also how important format is to the storytelling in this book. Music by Sleuth Our next episode will cover volumes 1&2 of "Space Boy" by Stephen McCranie.

Jam, Jeff, and JD return to Alberta for the rest of Kate Beaton's "Ducks: Two Years in the Oil Sands." We still have lots to talk about as Kate survives her own journey of being metaphorically trapped in a tailings pond. We'll talk about resource extraction, Canadian history, late capitalism, misogyny, and (be warned) sexual assault. Music by Sleuth. Our next episode will cover "The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Cartoonist" by Adrian Tomine.

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In this episode, we discuss: The Wonder Trail by Steve Hely https://bit.ly/3QskAqm The Sound of a Wild Snail Eating by Elisabeth Tova Bailey https://bit.ly/3p5EM5J Tender Wings of Desire by Harland Sanders (Prospector or ILL) The Way of the House Husband by Kousuke Oono https://hpldencore.mylibrary.us/iii/encore/record/C__Rb2247828 We didn't quite get to: The Department of Truth by James Tynion IV https://bit.ly/3SQKRRt The Loneliness of the Long Distance Cartoonish by Adrian Tomine https://bit.ly/3BS5iai Rebecca Ringquist's Emboidery Workshops by Rebecca Ringquist https://bit.ly/3Qh8dho Crow Planet by Lyanda Lynn Haupt (Prospector or ILL)

This week on The Treatment, Elvis sits down for a conversation with graphic novelist Adrian Tomine, whose recent work inspired the film “Paris, 13th District.” Next, a conversation with TV creators, writing partners, and partners in life,  Michelle and Robert King, whose current TV dramas include “The Good Fight” and “Evil.” And finally for The Treat, MUBI podcast host Rico Gagliano talks about why the, at times, bleak Wim Wenders film “Wings of Desire” gives him hope.

This week on The Treatment, Elvis sits down with New York Times columnist Frank Bruni to discuss Bruni's memoir, “The Beauty of Dusk: On Vision Lost and Found” and how he approaches writing. Next chef and restaurateur Neal Fraser tells about his immersive dinner-theater experience “Revive: Los Angeles” currently at the downtown LA event space Vibiana. And finally on The Treat, graphic novelist Adrian Tomine explains how Mike Leigh has helped his storytelling.

Let's dork out about comics! Lexi & Ben share their essential comic reads from monthlies, graphic novels, comic strips, and webcomics: Lynda Barry, Osamu Tezuka, Hergé, Trudy Cooper, Gary Larson, Bill Waterson, Randall Munroe, Scott McCloud, Matthew Inman, Junji Ito, Meredith Gran and just, like, so, so many more! FURTHER DORKSCUSSION:Here are the comics we recommended:Louis Riel by Chester Brown (Lexi & Ben)Judge Dredd from 2000 AD (Jon)Astro Boy by Osamu Tezuka (Ben)Tintin by HergéCalvin and Hobbes by Bill Watterson (Lexi & Ben)xkcd by Randall Munroe (Jon)Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud (Ben)Making Comics by Scott McCloud(Ben)Gyo by Junji Ito (Fiona)Uzumaki by Junji Ito (Fiona)Krazy Kat by George Harriman (Who's That Pokemon)Syllabus: Notes From an Accidental Professor by Lynda Barry (Lexi)The Death of Superman from DC Comics by Dan Jurgens and Brett Breeding (Jon)Scott Pilgrim by Bryan Lee O'Malley (Ben)Tales from the Crypt from EC Comics (Fiona)Sharaz-de: Tales from the Arabian Nights by Sergio Toppi (Lexi)The Oatmeal by Matthew Inman (Lexi & Jon)Y: The Last Man by Pia Guerra and Brian K. Vaughan (Ben)Oglaf by Trudy Cooper and Doug Bayne (Fiona & Ben)Tank Girl by Alan Martin and Jamie Hewlett (Lexi)The Far Side by Gary Larson (Jon & Lexi)Saga by Fiona Staples and Brian K. Vaughan (Ben, obviously)Love and Rockets created by Mario, Gilbert, and Jaime Hernandez (Fiona)Johhny the Homicidal Maniac by Jhonen Vasquez (Lexi)Monstress by Sana Takeda and Marjorie Liu (Lexi)From Hell by Alan Moore and Eddie Campbell (Lexi)Stardust by Neil Gaiman and illustrated by Charles Vess.The Sandman series created by Neil Gaiman, Sam Kieth and Mike Dringenberg (Lexi)It's a Good Life, If You Don't Weaken by Seth (Lexi)Smile by Raina Telgemeier (Ben)Octopus Pie by Meredith Gran (Ben)Bobbins/Scary Go Round/Bad Machinery by John Allison (Ben)Killing and Dying by Adrian Tomine (Ben)Holy shit! That was a lot of comics!BONUS CONTENT:HoodoosIgnatzThe Secret Life of CanadaJess' comics offering: Cathy by Cathy Guisewite and Jamie Loftus' AackCastSOCIALS:Here's where you can find us!Lexi's website and twitter and instagramBen's website and instagram and where to buy his book: Amazon.ca / Comixology / Ind!go / Renegade ArtsDork Matter's website(WIP) and twitter and instagram and redditEnjoying dorking out with Dork Matters? Give us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your pods and help us spread the word.“To kill a man between panels is to condemn him to a thousand deaths.”  -Scott McCloud 

In honor of Asian Pacific American Heritage Month, we're talking about one of our favorite Asian American comics creators, Adrian Tomine! Specifically, we're discussing three of his stories: Hawaiian Getaway, Amber Sweet, and Killing and Dying. These are stories that were originally published in his comic book series Optic Nerve, and can now be found in the book collections Summer Blonde (for Hawaiian Getaway) and Killing and Dying (the other two stories). These three stories were (loosely) adapted into the 2021 French film Paris, 13th District, directed by Jaques Audiard. Justin from WAHW (We Are Half the World) joins us as we dissect the three comics stories and the film they inspired. We also discuss generally what we appreciate about Adrian Tomine's work. To learn more about WAHW, please visit wahw.org and give them a follow on Instagram!

Ep. 113: Jacques Audiard on Paris, 13th District Welcome to The Last Thing I Saw. I'm your host, Nicolas Rapold. Paris, 13th District is the latest movie from Jacques Audiard, a writer-director whose work has spanned many genres, from The Beat That My Heart Skipped to Rust and Bone to The Sisters Brothers. Paris 13th District is Audiard's unabashed look at a younger generation in love, and it starts by focusing on a woman, Emilie (Lucie Zhang) and her roommate, briefly turned lover, Camille (Makita Samba). But it gradually shifts to the story of Nora, a newcomer to Paris played by Noémie Merlant, who gets mixed up literally with a cam girl named Amber Sweet. Its soulful and beautiful moments have a way of sneaking up on you with their intensity and then commanding your attention. I talked with Audiard about making the movie (which adapts a graphic novel by Adrian Tomine). He spoke with the help of a translator and in a brief span of time had a lot of illuminating things to say. Please support the production of this podcast by signing up at: rapold.substack.com Music: “Tomorrow's Forecast” by The Minarets, courtesy of The Minarets Photo by Steve Snodgrass

又到了一月一总结的固定节目啦。这一期我们聊了聊十一月份读了什么书，推荐的书和吐槽的书。大家读过我们提到的书吗？或者大家十一月份读了什么值得推荐的书呢？欢迎给我们留言。 时间节点： 01:56 White Is For Witching, by Helen Oyeyemi Daisy Johnson 访谈： five books: https://fivebooks.com/best-books/daisy-johnson-books-that-influenced-her/ （提到作者另外一本书“Mr Fox”） 06:14 My Monticello, by Jocelyn Nicole Johnson "My Monticello"的书评，NPR： https://www.npr.org/2021/11/02/1045277325/my-monticello-review-jocelyn-nicole-johnson Buying A House Ahead Of The Apocalypse: https://joylandmagazine.com/fiction/buying-a-house-ahead-of-the-apocalypse/ 11:03 《波洛圣诞探案记》阿加莎·克里斯蒂 （提到的：《罗杰疑案》，The Adventure of the Christmas Pudding, 阿加莎·克里斯蒂） 18:00 Unaccustomed Earth (中译本《不适之地》), by Jhumpa Lahiri （提到的：Interpreter of Maladies《疾病解说者》） 20:44 The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Cartoonist, by Adrian Tomine （提到的阿德里安·远峰《闯入者》） 25:08 A Village Life, by Louise Glück （提到的：This Way to the Sugar, by Hieu Minh Nguyen, 作者表演诗歌的视频https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvI98SZRxHU） 33:24 《老妇还乡》 弗里德里希·迪伦马特 37:28 Exquisite Corpse, by Pénélope Bagieu, translated by Alexis Siegel 40:02 《我是女兵，也是女人》S.A.阿列克谢耶维奇 46:52 《不轨之举：意大利文艺复兴时期的一位修女》朱迪丝·布朗 （提到：保罗·范霍文导演的《圣母》） 52:24 Beautiful World, Where Are You, by Sally Rooney 56:16 《漫长的星期六 : 斯坦纳谈话录》乔治•斯坦纳 / 洛尔•阿德勒 《侦探小说家的未来之书》周恺（提到的《苔》周恺） 「あの子は貴族」山内マリコ —---------------- 收听和订阅渠道： 墙内：小宇宙App，喜马拉雅，网易云“普通-读者” 墙外： Apple Podcast, Anchor, Spotify, Pocket Casts, Google Podcast, Breaker, Radiopublic 电邮：commonreader@protonmail.com 微博： 普通读者播客 三位主播的小红书： 徐慢懒：638510715 H：1895038519 堂本：1895329519 欢迎关注播客豆瓣： https://www.douban.com/people/commonreaders/ 片头音乐credit： Flipper's Guitar - 恋とマシンガン- Young, Alive, in Love - 片尾音乐credit：John Bartman - Happy African Village (Music from Pixabay)

Welcome to History of Popcorn!This week Justin & Elijah discuss The Lost City of D, Sandra Bullock's new Rom-Com Adventure with Channing Tatum and Daniel Radcliffe.Randall Park is making his directorial debut with the adaptation of a graphic novel called Shortcomings by Adrian Tomine.Scott Derrickson, who directed Doctor Strange, is diving back into the world of horror with The Black Phone with his writing collaborator C. Robert Cargill, who also wrote Doctor Strange.Christian Bale is reuniting with director Scott Cooper with a Netflix film called The Pale Blue Eye, based on the novel of the same name. Laika Studios most known for Coraline and other stop motion features like ParaNorman & Missing Link, is taking a step in a new direction with making their first Live Action franchise film called, Seventeen. Based on a novel coming 2022. We end the show with our DCOM REVISITED of 2004's STUCK IN THE SUBURBS! HISTORY OF POPCORN IS ON APPLE, AMAZON, SPOTIFY & YOUTUBE!NEW EPISODES EVERY TUESDAY!Find us on social media: https://twitter.com/HistoryPopcornhttps://www.instagram.com/historyofpopcorn/https://www.facebook.com/HistoryofPopcornYoutube: History of Popcorn

At best society has a weird obsession with perfectionism as a trait for success, but not only is that notion unhealthy, there's a far darker side to it as a construct in society. We talk about how it can limit your career as well as your mental health.  We take 5 minutes to share our thoughts on the erasure of ethnic minority talent in the Public Relations and Communications industry and why marketing and PR awards risk missing amazing work.    S10, Ep1 How to Fail: Jameela Jamil https://howtofail.podbean.com/e/how-to-fail-jameela-jamil/    Our Dangerous Obsession With Perfectionism IS Getting Worse - Social psychologist Thomas Curran https://www.ted.com/talks/thomas_curran_our_dangerous_obsession_with_perfectionism_is_getting_worse?language=en   Adrian Tomine's “Love Life”  By Françoise Mouly Art by Adrian Tomine https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cover-story/cover-story-2020-12-07    Harriet's Tweet to Digital PR Examples https://twitter.com/HarrietSmallies/status/1362108294182100997   The DICE Charter https://www.getdice.co.uk/dicecharter   Find Rebecca:  Twitter: https://twitter.com/rebecca7roberts https://twitter.com/threadandfable   Linkedin: Rebecca Roberts  Website: https://threadandfable.com/ Podcast: The Hear It podcast    Find Harriet: Twitter: https://twitter.com/HarrietSmallies   Linkedin: Harriet Small Website: https://www.commsoveracoffee.com/   

This episode! • Woody + SJ talk about #asians4therapy • Woody has an emasculating meltdown buying the new Adrian Tomine book / Are you AZN? Do you have a story about an emotional outburst or dating disaster? Submit it anonymously at sjandwoody.com and we'll read it!

Look, these episodes can't all be winners. Sometimes we're tired, and easily distracted, and for some reason we talk about onions a lot? But this week's book--a collection of graphic short stories by Adrian Tomine--is definitely worth checking out.

Time Codes: 00:01:30 - Introduction 00:03:21 - News and updates 00:12:05 - Best American Comics 2016 01:07:29 - Wrap up 01:08:37 - Contact us Every year the Two Guys with PhDs use the final two episodes of the year as a respective, a look back at some of the best comics out there. Next week they'll release their own favorites of the past twelve months, but for this, their penultimate show of the year, Andy and Derek discuss what others consider outstanding. The 2016 volume Best American Comics, edited by cartoonist Roz Chast (and with series editor Bill Kartalopoulos), includes thirty contributions from a variety of creators and displaying a wide range of styles and storytelling strategies. These comics were originally published between September 1, 2015 and August 31, 2015, and in many cases they include titles that the guys have discussed on past episodes. (For insights into the selection process for this volume, check out the previously published interview with Bill Kartalopoulos.) As the guys point out, there are entries in this collection that should come as no surprise to comics readers -- e.g., Adrian Tomine's "Killing and Dying," Drew Friedman's "R. Crumb and Me," various Kate Beaton strips, and excerpts from Richard McGuire's Here and Chris Ware's The Last Saturday -- but some of the most notable contributions are from artists with whom the guys weren't yet familiar, or are selections that might not be on most readers' "Best of" lists. As you'll hear on this episode, Derek and Andy are excited to discover the work of Taylor-Ruth Baldwin, Sophia Zdon, Lance Ward, and Char Esmé, while at the same time they are glad to see recognition of works by Joe Ollmann, John Porcellino, Keiler Roberts, and Nina Bunjevac. But every piece in this anthology is worthy of attention, as are the various titles listed in its "Notable Comics" section at the very end. With a new year on the horizon, it's always useful to look back at those comics that have helped define where we are today. And as the guys point out, the annual Best American Comics volumes are some of the gauges out there.

Last weekend was the Small Press Expo held in Bethesda, MD, and a big part of that event was the recognition of the 2016 Ignatz Award nominees. So for this week's episode, Gwen and Derek discuss the many and diverse titles populating that list, looking for trends and making observations about this year's selections. The nominees in all nine categories, announced last month, were chosen by a five-member jury, and then attendees voted on their favorites during the first day of the event. Gwen starts things going by asking Derek about his experiences at SPX, and then the two plunge into the heart of the discussion. They do not run down the entire list of nominees in an organized manner, beginning with one category and then moving on to the next, but their exchange is more free-flowing and associational, taking up titles as they come up in the conversation. In this way, Gwen and Derek are able to cover about all of the nominees and draw insightful connections among many of the texts. They notice, for example, that many of the winners seem to skew younger, and that, at times, complex and longer-form storytelling doesn't get the same kind of attention as episodic or one-off narratives. They also comment on the fact that established names within the medium, such as Daniel Clowes, Adrian Tomine, Trina Robbins, and Kim Deitch, were completely shut out in the final selection. However, Gwen and Derek do not so much emphasize the actual winners of the nine categories -- although they do discuss these -- as they do the broader sweep of each category's population and what that might say about the current state of small press and indie comics.

0:00:00 - 0:24:28 - Tucker has been reading Lee Child's Jack Reacher novels again. Discussed in this section: Lee Child, Prime Suspect, James Ellroy, Blood Meridian, Against the Day, The Book of Numbers, Finnegan's Wake, Dune, John Carter, Gravity's Rainbow, William Gaddis, Preacher, Recognitions, JR, Garth Ennis, The Boys, Suspiria, The Darkness, Marc Silvestri, Stephen Hunter, Werner Herzog, A History of Violence, Tom Cruise, Will Smith, Raymond Chandler, Nicholas Cage, Maze Runner, Mayor Carcetti, 12 Rounds, Teen Wolf, American Ultra, Bourne Identity, G.I. Joe 2, Noah, Batman, 311, Korn, Limp Bizkit, Adrian Tomine, Steve Ditko, Jay Z, and Dr. Dre. 0:24:29 - 0:41:03- We talk a little (not enough, he deserves a full show) about Wes Craven. Sean wrote about Last House on the Left/secret obituary for Grantland. If you'd like to spend more time on Craven, the Nightmare on Elm Street documentary Never Sleep Again has some great interviews with him even though the whole thing is pretty tiring. Adam Simon's fantastic documentary on American horror The American Nightmare (which is on youtube) and Jason Zinoman's history of American horror Shock Value are indispensable for Craven's interviews.  Here's my favorite Craven quote, from American Nightmare:  “I think there is something about the American dream, the sort of Disneyesque dream, if you will, of the beautifully trimmed front lawn and the white picket fence. Mom and Dad and happy children. God fearing and doing good whenever they can. That sort of expectation. And the flip side of it, of the anger and sense of outrage that comes from discovering that's not the truth of the matter. I think that gives American horror films in some ways  kind of a… An additional rage”  Also discussed in this section: Dr. Wayne Dyer, Oliver Sacks, Last House on the Left, Scream Nightmare on Elm Street, Cursed, Scream 3, Scream 4, The Hills Have Eyes, Vampire in Brooklyn, Red Eye, Music of the Heart, Olivier Assayas, Gaspar Noe, The Hills Have Eyes remake, The Last House on the Left remake, Takashi Miike, Tobe Hooper, Walking Dead, Sinister, Michael Bay, Joe Swanberg, John Cassavettes, Garret Dillahunt, Tony Goldwyn, Ingmar Bergman, Luis Bunuel, Carl Theodor Dreyer, George Romero, John Carpenter, Halloween, The Virgin Spring, Max Von Sydow, the Saw movies, Star Wars at Disney World, The Visit, and Richard Brody. 0:41:04 - 0:52:40 - SPECIAL GUEST DROP-IN BY MISS NINA - Mindhunters (2004), directed by Renny Harlin, starrring Christian Slater, Val Kilmer, Kathryn Morris, Patricia Velasquez, LL Cool J, Clifton Collins Jr, and Johnny Lee Miller.  Also discussed in this section: NCIS LA, Mr. Robot, CSI, Elementary, Cold Case, Trainspotting, The Big Sleep, The Thing, Armageddon 2001, Inferno, John Romita Jr. Walt Simonson, Abel Ferrara, Cutthroat Island, board games, Jumanji, Zathura, John Favreau, Swingers, The Pagemaster, Cowboys and Aliens, Michael Mann, Tom Noonan, Sicario, and Blackhat.   0:52:41 - 1:06:24 - True Detective Season 2, starring Colin Farrell, Taylor Kitsch, Rachel McAdams, Vince Vaughn, Kelly Reilly, and Rick Springfield. Also discussed in this section: Thief, Kill List, American Gigolo, Lethal Weapon, James Ellroy, 24, Friday Night Lights, Silent Rage, HP Lovecraft, Eyes Wide Shut, Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, Quentin Tarantino, Taking of Pelham 1 2 3, Jaws, Tom Hanks, American Tabloid, Richard Chew (SHOUTOUT TO RICHARD CHEW THE GOD), Justin Lin, The Comeback, and Deadwood.  1:06:25 - 1:21:09 - Black Christmas (1974), directed by Bob Clark, starring Olivia Hussey, Margot Kidder, Kier Duella, and John Saxon.  Also discussed in this section: Steve Martin, Videodrome, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Halloween, Porky's, Deathdream (that is the Vietnam vet movie I could not remember the name of), Lone Wolf and Cub, Copra, Jason Shiga's Demon, Bookhunter, Scud, and Detention.  Next Week: Two American men talk Eyes Wide Shut for a very long time. Music this week: "Moya" by Godspeed You Black Emperor from The American Nightmare. And our intro, as always, is from Escape From New York.   R.I.P. Wes Craven, you will be missed.