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Send us a textWoHos!Sometimes you have to break your own rules, you know what I mean? While we usually pair an international horror film with an American one, this week, we looked at two American films. We tried not to swear, but that was a fool's errand!We reviewed THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS & K-POP DEMON HUNTERS. KPDH was new to us, but we revisited NIGHTMARE, which is an old favorite for us both.Next time we will be looking at MORE Feel Good Fall Films with TURNING RED & PARANORMAN.Thank you for all your support. It means the World of Horror™ to us, truly! Gerry Entriken: WoHo Outro ThemeSupport the showOpening Theme "Bucket" by Gerry EntrikenClosing Theme "Mop" by Gerry Entriken Interstitial Musicalso by Gerry Entriken. We love you, Gerry!Subscribe to the Podcast for a Special shout-out!World of Horror's InstagramMom's InstagramMac's InstagramDonate to Translifeline
In this episode of Old Spook Lane Creepy Chats, Arun and Patricia discuss about the 2012 stop motion animated film Paranorman. A young boy named Norman Babcock is ostracized from everyone in his small Massachusetts town because he's able to see and speak to the dead. His uncle informs him that every year, a witch places a curse on the town and it's up to him to read from a book to subside it for another year. But trouble strikes when zombies rise from the dead and the witch's curse becomes more and more powerful. Norman then realizes that to get rid of the witch's curse, it involves more than what was done for 300 years to keep her at bay.When the film premiered in theaters, it made $107 million dollars out of a $60 million dollar budget. It received critical acclaim from critics and viewers for its story, animation, atmosphere, and social commentary. What did Arun and Patricia think of the film?
FROM YOUTUBE TO INDIE FILMMAKER…SHELBY OAKS IS HERE, BUT DOES IT HERALD A POTENTIAL NEW FILMIC VOICE OR WERE MISTAKES MADE?!?!?!Stop me if you've heard this one: An ex-Jehovah's Witness, pansexual, YouTube movie reviewer/influencer decides to make a movie…. And so it is with Shelby Oaks, the debut feature of one Chris Stuckmann. Kickstarter'd, delayed, reshot, remixed, edited, EP'd and shepherded to the screen by rising superstar horror director Mike Flanagan and a host of other contemporary horror creators, is Shelby Oaks THE horror debut from a YouTube content creator worthy of all those hyperbolic quotes on the poster? (Editor's Note: The Phillipous and Talk to Me just said, “HOLD MY BEER”.) Or does this have “rookie filmmaker missteps” ALL over it? Team Web (Cupcake) and Team Sundance (WillDaBeast) have thoughts…lots of them…and you may be surprised who is the MOST critical. (Editor's Note: Cupcake always takes a shit on one major thing every movie.) DISCOVER THE SECRET OF SHELBY OAKS WITH WATCH SKIP PLUS!As Spooky Season comes to a close, Jose plus's a local Maryland behemoth Haunted House installation “Legends of the Fog” and the “Dismember The Alamo” horror film marathon. Mike gets in the Deathstalker remake director's followup to the popular Psycho Goreman “Frankie Freako” and the last of the retro “Scream-ings”: The Corpse Bride and ParaNorman, both issues as anniversary screenings. TIMESTAMPS00:00 Teaser01:55 Intro04:52 Shelby Oaks: Below the Line / The Crew13:18 Shelby Oaks: Behind the Making19:41 Shelby Oaks: Above the Line / The Cast28:23 Spoiler Free Thoughts47:46 SPOILERS AHEAD01:03:13 Jose's Plus01:13:43 Mike's Plus01:22:44 Outro- - - - - - - - - -WE ARE WATCH SKIP PLUS! FOLLOW/LIKE/SUBSCRIBE/REVIEW/LOVEEmail us: WatchSkipPlus@gmail.com#ShelbyOaks #ChrisStuckmann #CamilleSullivan #SarahDurn #BrendanSextonIII #KeithDavid #MichaelBeach #RobinBartlett #DerekMears #amillionEPs #kickstarter #JamesBurkholder #TheNewtonBrothers #andrewscottbaird #brettwbachman #mikeflanagan #davidfsandberg #sevohanian #scottbeck #BryanWoods #paperstreetpictures #intrepidpictures #titlemedia #HlbrkEnt #Neon
Send us a textIt's 2025 SPOOK-TOBERToday were talking about:The dead don't rest — especially when they've got middle school drama to deal with.In ParaNorman (2012), a misunderstood boy who talks to ghosts must save his town from an ancient curse, proving that sometimes the real monsters are PTA members and small-town gossip. Through clay and courage, Laika Studios builds a hauntingly tender world where every grave hides a story and every outsider has a voice.It's eerie, heartfelt, and weirdly profound — like if The Sixth Sense had a Saturday morning cartoon phase.
All Hallows Eve is upon us! Don your best costumes, grab that plastic jack o'lantern bucket and come paint the ntown red with us as we indulge in 2007's Trick 'r Treat. A tight 82-minutes of delicious anthological horror goodness, we unwrap the treats of Michael Doughterty's immediately established rules, intersecting stories, and how this is one movie that truly encapsulates the spirit of Halloween. So! Happy listening! Just be sure to check your candy, keep that costume on, don't touch those decorations and do NOT blow out that jack o'lantern before midnight!!!!TimestampsNegronomicon - 4:17Crit - 23:50Final Curls - 1:04:30Gems from Ep. 113Power Rangers Beast Morphers (2019, television series)Frankenstein (2025)Frankenstein (Mary Shelley, (Lackington, Hughes, Harding, Mavor & Jones, 1818, Print)Crimson Peak (2015)Pan's Labyrinth (2006)Paranorman (2012)The Thrifting (2025, short)The Shining (1980)Wildwood (2026)The Rescuers Down Under (1990)The Night Gardener (upcoming film)Kubo and the Two Strings (2016)Coraline (2009)Shrek 2 (2004)Trick'r Treat (2007)Godzilla: King of the Monsters (2019)Krampus (2015)True Blood (2008, television series)Succession (2018, television series)Kyle XY (2006, television series)White Chicks (2004)Goosebumps (1995, television series)Are You Afraid of the Dark (1990, television series)Scary stories to Tell in the Dark (Alvin Schwartz, Scholastic, 1981, Print)Tales from the Darkside (1983, television series)The Twilight Zone (1959, television series)Creepshow (1982)Tales from the Crypt (1989, television series)XX (2017)The Thursday Murder Club (2025)Channel Zero (2016, television series)The Mortuary Collection (2019)V/H/S/ (2012)Laura Hasn't Slept (2020)Smile (2022)Lights Out (2013, short)Lights Out (2016)Midsommar (2019)Halloweentown (1998)Leprechaun (1993)Leprechaun 2 (1994)Leprechaun 3 (1995)Leprechaun 4: In Space (1996)Leprechaun in the Hood (2000)Leprechaun Back 2 Tha Hood (2003)Leprechaun: Origins (2014)Leprechaun Returns (2018)The Blackening (2022)Drag Me to Hell (2009)James Bond (1962, film series)The Thing (1981)Luigi's Mansion (2001, video game)Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon (2013, video game)Luigi's Mansion 3 (2019, video game)Super Mario Sunshine (2002, video game)Little Nightmares III (2025, video game)The Sounds of Nightmares (2025, podcast)Reanimal (2026, video game)Support the show
Oww my boobs! Welcome to pcmc Halloween 2025! Spooky season is the most precious time of year for the pcmc brood, and we continue rolling along with our month-long scare-tacular Halloween specials. On today's episode, the host, Mike Bongiorno, is joined by the lovely Jennifer "Grave" Litrell. Mike and Jen are discussing the highly underrated spooky stop-motion film ParaNorman (2012). It's the story of a little boy who can see and talk to ghosts and a misunderstood little witch. It's beautifully designed, funny, and heartfelt. But even if you haven't seen the film, you can enjoy today's episode of pop culture man children! Come back next week for more spooky fun! find us everywhere @PCMCpod
Sarah and Carrie are joined by Alyssa to talk about 2012's ParaNorman! We talk spicy hummus, Witchy Wieners, vending machine chips, horror references, progressive themes, ghost dogs, why Neal is the best, and more!
Send us a textWoHos!This week we looked at two films related to home invasion: SLEEP TIGHT from Spain and SEE FOR ME from Canada/US.Mom remembered SLEEP TIGHT very differently than her first watch 14 years ago. We had similar thoughts about SEE FOR ME.Our naxt main show will be about Trying to Defy Fate with A DAY (HA-RU) from South Korea and FINAL DESTINATION: BLOODLINES from the US.After that, we will have a coule "Feel Good Fall" shows with THE NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS & K-POP DEMON HUNTERS and then TURNING RED & PARANORMAN. We hope you will tune in and enjoy!!Thank you for all your support. It Means the World of Horror ™ to us, truly.Remember, WoHos! We love you and DON'T go into the basement!-Mom Gerry Entriken: WoHo Outro ThemeSupport the showOpening Theme "Bucket" by Gerry EntrikenClosing Theme "Mop" by Gerry Entriken Interstitial Musicalso by Gerry Entriken. We love you, Gerry!Subscribe to the Podcast for a Special shout-out!World of Horror's InstagramMom's InstagramMac's InstagramDonate to Translifeline
It's October so it's time to get scared. Or in this case, spooked slightly because this is kids' movie! Follow us on Facebook and Instagram @thesharkpod patreon.com/sharksacrosshollywood Music by The Drag
The Out Now with Aaron and Abe horror specials are back for 2025, and the guys are kicking things off by looking at horror flicks focused on major scope, sizable ideas, and anything they'd consider epic. The Brandon Peters Show's Brandon Peters joins Aaron and Abe to go over their picks for films they think properly represent horror epics. Listen in to enjoy hearing about how they define an epic, only to go through several films each, with differing forms of logic as to how they arrived at placing them under this specific category. It's all in good fun and features plenty of references to even more films, horror trivia, and the occasional tangent. So now, if you've got an hour or so to kill… Get yourself a free audiobook and help out the show at AudibleTrial.com/OutNowPodcast! Follow all of us on Twitter: @Outnow_Podcast, @AaronsPS4, @WalrusMoose, @Brandon4KUHD Check out all of our sites, podcasts, and blogs: TheCodeIsZeek.substack.com, Why So Blu?, We Live Entertainment, The Brandon Peters Show Next Week: First Time Horror Watches Check Out All of Our Horror Specials. Every Film Mentioned: The Blair Witch Project, Dracula (1979), The Shining, Candyman, Candyman (2021), Scream 2, Terrifier 2, Midsommar, Goosebumps, Pan's Labyrinth, Zodiac, Manhunter, Lifeforce, Kwaidan, ParaNorman, Deep Red, Suspiria (2018), Army of Darkness
COME ASHORE FOR THE NEW WATCH SKIP PLUS!Cupcake all but ordered WillDaBeast to see the new Ron Howard film solely because advanced word had Jude Law doing a “one for the history books” full frontal nude scene. And so it is: this week the Boyz review Ron Howard's historically based, “Survivor”-esque 1930's period drama “Eden” starring Law, Vanessa Kirby, Daniel Bruehl (BARON ZEMO!), current controversial it-girl Sydney Sweeney, and Ana De Armas. Aside from the obvious visual DELIGHTS (warning: lots of breasts, penis, butt, and pregnancy talk/jokes), is this a return to prestige engrossing filmmaking from Howard or is “Eden” setting itself up to run afoul of potential multiple Razzie nominations (yes, at least one host thinks this is absolute dreck)? FIND PARADISE WITH OUR NEW EPISODE!Stick around for the PLUS: Mike reviews “Night of the Zoopocalypse”, an animated film based on a short story by….wait for it…..CLIVE BARKER (think “Zootopia” meets Alien meets “Paranorman”); Jose takes on the new horror comedy “Clown in a Cornfield” from the director of “Tucker & Dale vs. Evil”. TIMESTAMPS00:00 Teaser01:15 Intro05:56 Eden: Below the Line / Production17:35 Eden: Above the Line / Cast26:31 Background / Spoiler Free Thoughts49:40 SPOILERS ahead01:07:30 Mike's Plus01:12:30 Jose's Plus01:18:37 Outro- - - - - - - - - -WE ARE WATCH SKIP PLUS! FOLLOW/LIKE/SUBSCRIBE/REVIEW/LOVEEmail us: WatchSkipPlus@gmail.com#eden #ronhoward #judelaw #anadearmas #vanessakirby #danielbruhl #sydneysweeney #felixkammerer #tobywallace #richardroxburgh #noahpink #mathiasherndl #hanszimmer #briangrazer #AGCstudios #imagineentertainment #fortecorppictures #medanpictures #nightofthezoopocalypse #ricardocurtis #rodrigoperezcastro #clivebarker #davidharbour #clowninacornfield #elicraig #katiedouglas #aaronabrams #carsonmaccormac #willsasso #kevindurand #vincentmuller
Send us a Question!REBROADCAST MOVIE DISCUSSION: In this rebroadcast episode (originally released September 28th, 2021), Melvin & Dan talk about one of Laika's several family-friendly horror-animated features, ParaNorman! Topics: ParaNorman has a comfortable, cozy Fall atmosphere.Laika takes advantage of it's medium to create a fun, charismatic animation style that separates itself from the competition.Melvin shares about an extremely lonely period in his life where he tried talking to ghosts because he had no one else to talk to.Melvin, "When you're just feeling distant and weird, all you want is someone to step into your world and spend time with you."How ParaNorman isn't really all that scary, especially compared to something like Coraline.But also, how ParaNorman can have these intensely emotional moments elevated by the children's story-book nature of the movie.Discussing what it's like to be an outcast, or treated differently, for your interests (in particular, Melvin & Dan being Christians who like horror movies).In this particular case, most Christians who enjoy horror movies have a strong understanding as to why they enjoy them than most Christians have with non-horror movies."Weird" people know that they're "weird" and see how others treat people who are also "weird", and it can become a perpetual self-isolating and self-preservation machine to try and keep away from those who may target their "weirdness" for laughs, bullying, or with disappointment. In Christian circles, when people are ostracized for certain qualities, social ticks, or "abnormal" hobbies, it's not a far-cry for people to start thinking the Lord sees them in a similar fashion: weird, different, separate, and superfluous.And, finally, we talk about that one joke between characters Mitch and Courtney that apparently became the big talking point during the time of ParaNorman's release, despite there being so much more to talk about (as proven by the rest of the episode).Recommendations: Nate Pickowicz's "How to Eat Your Bible: A Simple Approach to Learning and Loving the Word of God"Parents: Learn to be interested in your kid's lives!Gilmore Girls // Dark Matter Support the showSupport on Patreon for Unique Perks! Early access to uncut episodes Vote on a movie/show we review One-time reward of two Cinematic Doctrine Stickers & Pins Social Links: Threads Website Substack Instagram Facebook Group
Join Britt, Rupert, and Lazlo as they once again put on their swimming caps and dive into the deep movie waters. Superman, Happy Gilmore 2, and ParaNorman are covered, as well as the ArkinZ'Dar (Roy Scheider to Marisa Tomei), not forgetting the super mega ultra turbo ArkinZ'Dar. Good. Tony Howe's favourite podcast* *possibly.
Our LAIKA Retrospective moves to the main feed to discuss the studio's sophomore effort ParaNorman. Taylor Bartle of Wild Mouse and The Grave Plot Podcast joins Derick to discuss the supernatural family film.For more info, head to underratedmoviepodcast.comPatreon:https://patreon.com/UnderratedMoviePodcastInstagram:https://instagram.com/underratedmoviepodcastTikTok:https://www.tiktok.com/@underratedmoviepodcastYouTube:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAbpTHWyBle7yKJv4-gR_g
Ahora vamos a hablar de un filme de Animacion Stop Motion Mexicano, llamado “Soy Frankelda”. Aquí conocemos a una chavita que tiene una imaginación enorme para los cuentos de terror, y ella es la clave para que un mundo tétrico mágico no muera, lo malo es que en su barrio le aplican eso de que “Nadie es profeta en su propia tierra” y nadie pela sus cuentos. Este filme que sirve como precuela a la miniserie “Los Sustos de Frankelda” , y se los recomiendo ampliamente, sobretodo si son fans de filmes como “Nightmare Before Christmas”, “Paranorman”, “Kubo”,“The Corpse Bride” y “Coraline”.
We're talking all about witches, zombies, and ancient curses as we discuss ParaNorman with special guest Samariel!
In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor reunite (despite a case of post-Annecy crud) to cover a wide range of animation and industry news, including: Disney officially announces Lilo & Stitch 2 after the live-action original crosses $945M globally. Elio holds better than expected with a solid second weekend as it climbs past $42M domestically. Live-action Tangled delayed to 2029, reportedly to make room for the Lilo & Stitch sequel. Warner Bros. loses the rights to Akira after years of development—setting the stage for a new studio to reimagine the cyberpunk classic. Laika's ParaNorman returns to theaters for Halloween 2025 as part of the studio's 20th anniversary celebration. Also in this episode: KPOP Demon Hunters debuts at #2 globally on Netflix, Broadway updates on Beauty and the Beast and Hercules, and what's really in those Dragon Flame-Grilled Whoppers at Burger King. It's a shorter episode while Drew recovers—but packed with news, box office insight, and some wild theme park popcorn bucket trivia. Be Our Guest Vacations Planning your next Disney vacation? Be Our Guest Vacations is a Platinum-level Earmarked travel agency with concierge-level service to make every trip magical. Their team of expert agents plans vacations across the globe, from Disney and Universal to cruises and adventures, ensuring you have the best possible experience without the stress. Learn More Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
In this episode of Fine Tooning, Jim Hill and Drew Taylor reunite (despite a case of post-Annecy crud) to cover a wide range of animation and industry news, including: Disney officially announces Lilo & Stitch 2 after the live-action original crosses $945M globally. Elio holds better than expected with a solid second weekend as it climbs past $42M domestically. Live-action Tangled delayed to 2029, reportedly to make room for the Lilo & Stitch sequel. Warner Bros. loses the rights to Akira after years of development—setting the stage for a new studio to reimagine the cyberpunk classic. Laika's ParaNorman returns to theaters for Halloween 2025 as part of the studio's 20th anniversary celebration. Also in this episode: KPOP Demon Hunters debuts at #2 globally on Netflix, Broadway updates on Beauty and the Beast and Hercules, and what's really in those Dragon Flame-Grilled Whoppers at Burger King. It's a shorter episode while Drew recovers—but packed with news, box office insight, and some wild theme park popcorn bucket trivia. Be Our Guest Vacations Planning your next Disney vacation? Be Our Guest Vacations is a Platinum-level Earmarked travel agency with concierge-level service to make every trip magical. Their team of expert agents plans vacations across the globe, from Disney and Universal to cruises and adventures, ensuring you have the best possible experience without the stress. Learn More Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
LAIKA Studios anunció el reestreno de Paranorman. Netflix reveló el primer vistazo de la temporada 3 de La Diplomática. Sony Pictures compartió un nuevo tráiler de Haz que regrese.
Episode #225 hosts Dave Bossert and Aljon Go share part 3 of a 3-part interview with animator, Darlie Brewster. The duo also chat up the latest entertainment news, streaming content reviews, Disney news, and the latest travel deal. Darlie Brewster was born in Canada. She is known for her work on The Prince of Egypt (1998) , Road to El Dorado (2000) , Land Before Time (1988) , All Dogs go to Heaven (1989) FernGully: The Last Rainforest (1992), The Prince of Egypt (1998), Looney Tunes Back In Action (2003), Osmosis Jones (2001) , Curious George The Movie (2006) and The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1996). She was one of the directing three animators on the original CareBears Movie (1985) and animated the test promo that sold the project to American Greeting Cards. She has worked for European companies like Passion Pictures , Gerhard Hahn and Gaumont on commercials and the Asterix features. She single handedly did all the character animation in the "Anime Sequence" of Blue Sky's Horton Hears A Who ( 2008) and did the majority of the "Disney Sequence " in Foxes Family Guy :Road to the Multiverse. . She also was one of the facial animation designers for Laika's Paranorman. 2014 she was inducted into the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences . *Source IMDb. We are now on Patreon! Click this link to support the show - Skull Rock Podcast | Join our crew! | Patreon. Exciting news, listeners! Skull Rock Podcast is thrilled to announce that we are now on Patreon. Dive deeper into the world of animation, films, and behind-the-scenes stories with your favorite hosts. By supporting us on Patreon, you help keep the magic alive and will be part of our special community. We are developing perks in the days to come! Let's make this journey even more extraordinary with your support!
ParaNorman's unique approach to horror allows it to explore serious societal issues through animation, and creatively blends animated horror with heartfelt themes of acceptance and understanding. Laika Studios have never been one to follow the leader, and while other studios were focusing on CG animation, Laika removed it's CG department purely for stop-motion. Developing groundbreaking techniques first used on Coraline, enhanced further for ParaNorman, including colour 3D printing, to create over 31,000 props. ParaNorman, which also features the first openly gay character in an American animated film, emphasizes the importance of communication and empathy in overcoming fear and prejudice. This is a movie that doesn't shy away from the harsh realities of the past, with historical references shaping ParaNorman's story, particularly the Salem witch trialsLike Norman's Grandma says when Norman tells her the zombie eats brains… “he's going to ruin his dinner. I'm sure if they just bothered to sit down and talk it through, it would be a different story”.I would love to hear your thoughts on ParaNorman !Verbal Diorama is now an award-winning podcast! I won the Best Movie Podcast in the inaugural Ear Worthy Independent Podcast Awards recently. I am beyond thrilled, and hugely grateful to the Ear Worthy team. It means so much to me to be recognised by a fellow indie outlet, and congratulations to all the other winners!CONTACT.... Twitter @verbaldiorama Instagram @verbaldiorama Facebook @verbaldiorama Letterboxd @verbaldiorama Email verbaldiorama [at] gmail [dot] com Website verbaldiorama.comSUPPORT VERBAL DIORAMA....Give this podcast a five-star Rate & Review Join the Patreon | Send a Tip ABOUT VERBAL DIORAMAVerbal Diorama is hosted, produced, edited, researched, recorded and marketed by me, Em | This podcast is hosted by Captivate, try it yourself for free. Theme Music: Verbal Diorama Theme Song. Music by Chloe Enticott - Compositions by Chloe. Lyrics by Chloe Enticott (and me!) Production by Ellis Powell-Bevan of Ewenique StudioPatrons: Sade, Claudia, Simon, Laurel, Derek, Cat, Andy, Mike, Luke, Michael, Scott, Brendan, Lisa, Sam, Jack, Dave, Stuart, Nicholas, Zo, Kev, Pete, Heather, Danny, Aly, Stu, Brett, Philip M, Michele, Xenos, Sean, Ryno, Philip K, Adam, Elaine, Kyle & Aaron.This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: OP3 - https://op3.dev/privacy
We are now on Patreon! Click this link to support the show - Skull Rock Podcast | Join our crew! | Patreon. Exciting news, listeners! Skull Rock Podcast is thrilled to announce that we are now on Patreon. Dive deeper into the world of animation, films, and behind-the-scenes stories with your favorite hosts. By supporting us on Patreon, you help keep the magic alive and will be part of our special community. We are developing perks in the days to come! Let's make this journey even more extraordinary with your support!
We are now on Patreon! Click this link and support the show - Skull Rock Podcast | Join our crew! | Patreon. Exciting news, listeners! Skull Rock Podcast is thrilled to announce that we are now on Patreon. Dive deeper into the world of animation, films, and behind-the-scenes stories with your favorite hosts. By supporting us on Patreon, you not only help keep the magic alive but will be part of our special community. We are developing perks in the days to come! Let's make this journey even more extraordinary with your support!
Welcome to the third insidious installation of Susto's 2024 Swap-A-Thon! This week we are visited by Floaties for Krakens!Want to share your own creepy story, picture, or recording? Leave a 5 star review with your story attached, email Ayden at sustopodcast@gmail.com, DM on social media, or visit SustoPodcast.com to be shared on the show!Sign up for Patreon here!Hi Cuttlefish! ^-^Welcome to Season 2 Episode 14 of Floaties for Krakens - A podcast about the monsters in your head, but reclaiming them instead.WELCOME! Just a quick reminder that Season 1 in its entirety is available to stream on Spotify, and Season 3 is currently underway on YouTube. Go check it out!The following episode is a bit of a throwback to our Pride Month Special called “Lavender for Monsters”. It was a beautiful four part series where we explored the intersections and power within Queerness and monstrosity.I'm going to begin this episode description with a phenomenal quote introduced to me by our guest of honor, Robin today. This quote is by Cuban American Queer Activist and Academic Jose Esteban Munoz:“Queerness is not yet here. Queerness is an ideality. Put another way, we are not yet queer, but we can feel it as the warm illumination of a horizon imbued with potentiality. We have never been queer, yet queerness exists for us as an ideality that can be distilled from the past and used to imagine a future. The future is queerness's domain. (p. 1)”― José Esteban Muñoz, Cruising Utopia: The Then and There of Queer FuturityLet's hear it for the beauties, complexities, and histories to come for Queerness. Robin Gow (it/fae/he & él y elle) is a poet and witch from rural Pennsylvania. It is the author of several poetry, Middle Grade, and Young Adult books. It works as a community educator on topics of LGBTQIA2+ and disability justice.Robin is a literal ray of sunshine. My goodness, I'm not kidding. The work that Fae does to explore the brilliance of Queerness in all of its monstrous complexities is nothing short of astronomical. Please, go check out this beautiful soul's poetry work Monstrous Cartography and all of the other outstanding works in Faer repertoire. Thank you so much for doing this show Robin, and I'm so excited to now call you a friend.Today's episode is all about the kindest person in the world Robin Gow, Robin's mastery in writing and poetry, the power of a ghost story, how monsters become manifestation of what society doesn't understand, Robin's PHENOMENAL new poetry book Monstrous Cartography, the relatability of “Queer Sea Monsters”, Robin's partner Rain and his monstrous watercolor mastery, the tears of the Squonk, Robin's explorations of Mothman, Climate Grief, the fears of endless wandering, the amazing Paranorman film, and how Robin and myself will forever be proud, proud, crybabies; because feeling “too much” is a superpower.-Content Warnings:Mentions and discussions of mental health complexities, depression, grief, and the beauties, trials, and tribulations of growing up QueerMisophonia:Snaps, Pops, Clicks, and Hisses throughout the episode.-Robin's Monstrous Mentions:Instagram: @ robin_gow_poetTikTok: @ robin_gow_poet & @ transdemontologist Website: robingow.comMonstrous Cartography: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/monstrous-cartography-robin-gow/1145307923?ean=9798990348837Dear Mothman: https://store.abramsbooks.com/products/dear-mothman-Mental Health Resources:LGBTQQIP2SAA+ Mental Health Resources: The Trevor Project: https://www.thetrevorproject.org/resources/category/mental-health/Domestic Violence Resources: https://www.thehotline.org/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=domestic_violenceNational Institute of Mental Health: https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/find-help988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline: https://988lifeline.org/Disaster Distress Helpline: https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/disaster-distress-helplineNational Alliance on Mental Health:NAMI HelpLine is available M-F 10 am – 10 pm, ET. Connect by phone 800-950-6264 or text "Helpline" to 62640, or chat. In a crisis call or text 988.Floaties for Krakens Links/Contact:Website Link:https://www.floatiesforkrakens.comSpotify Show Link:https://open.spotify.com/show/1LTqFzeNq4OpgEMQiRrGtK?si=5ab2c8ab16e44abbYoutube:https://www.youtube.com/@FloatiesforKrakensInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/floatiesforkrakens/-This episode of Floaties for Krakens was written and recorded by me, Camille Maria Acosta. A monstrous thank you to Robin Gow for such a kind interview. A big thank you to Michael Cosman for producing a stellar episode, and a huge thank you, to Natalie Hedberg for designing such a phenomenal logo.Music for the show was also written and produced by me, with a special appearance by my Thatha, Toby Acosta.Floaties for Krakens is not a Sponsored Podcast.However, here are the tools I used and am very thankful for to get this idea off the ground:Adobe AuditionAdobe Premiere ProArturia Minilab Mk IICanvaGarage BandLogitech for Creators White Yeti USB MicrophoneZencastr~Keep Being Monstrous.Keep Shining Bright.
In this episode, La Llareyna Drags the reverend to spooky Massachusetts to visit Blithe Hollow to meet a little boy that just may be her son.....or will be. We are reviewing the Laika film based on the with trials of Salem, but also prominently featuring Zombies, so take a listen as we review ParaNorman. Listener discretion is advised.
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It's time for the Comic Talk Headlines with Generally Nerdy!LOTS of new musicNetflix bows out of gaming... kindaElon sued AGAINJoe Rogan to interview Donald TrumpAnd so much more...Plus, don't forget to subscribe for more fresh content. MusicNew Music/VideoROSÉ & Bruno Mars - APT. https://youtu.be/ekr2nIex040 CATCHY AF!! But that is par for the course with Bruno Mars. Apparently the lyrics (and title) are a play on words for a Korean drinking game. Rose from Blackpink.Cradle of Filth - Malignant Perfection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiF-PAt6N9U surprisingly restrained for a Cradle song. Trying to rekindle Nymphetamine? Video is VERY fitting for the season.Dead Icarus - 1 Million Days https://youtu.be/EjBGU-hF4js MUCH more Atreyu than anything previously released. This has Curse vibes all over it, even the video.Better Lovers - Love as an Act of Rebellion https://youtu.be/5qCT4puiPJY I almost like these guys as much as Miss Machine era Dillinger… almost. What is with the 4:3 aesthetic these days?Bloodywood - Nu Delhi https://youtu.be/A3C9NwGKgq4?si=k5I2p2CYtUofhYfE A little less on the NU sound. Still well put together, if slightly forgettable.Breaking Benjamin - Awaken https://youtu.be/cHj8PtRdMQk Decent breakdown/solo section, but don't believe the hype. NOT extra heavy.Loss Becomes - Broken Mirrors Feat Jesse Leach https://youtu.be/_dTIV7xI9jM THIS is how you use a Jesse Leach vocal spot.Tours/FestivalsJerry Cantrell - Runs from Jan 31 through March 9. Support from Filter.https://jerrycantrell.com/ Claudio Simonetti's Goblin - Oct 31 through Dec 15. Screening Demons in select cities.https://goblinsimonetti.com/tour-dates Reg ‘ol NewsIron Maiden - Paul Di'anno passed at 66. The band's first vocalist on their debut “Iron Maiden” and “Killers.” His years long battle with Lymphedema seems to have ended. Official documentary coming in 2025.https://blabbermouth.net/news/ex-iron-maiden-singer-paul-dianno-dead-at-66 https://blabbermouth.net/news/official-paul-dianno-documentary-coming-in-2025 Papa Roach - Jacoby Shaddix says the next record “makes sense” to be a heavy record. The heaviest record they have ever done he claims. Seems like another trend hop to me.https://blabbermouth.net/news/jacoby-shaddix-says-it-feels-natural-for-papa-roach-to-lean-into-heavy-sound-on-next-album As I Lay Dying - Bassist and vocalist Ryan Neff has left the band, with a very curt exit statement on his socials. This can't be an issue with Lambesis' past, this has to be just Tim being difficult to work with at this point.https://blabbermouth.net/news/bassist-vocalist-ryan-neff-quits-as-i-lay-dying Static-X - Hoping to release the documentary “Evil Disco: The Rise, Fall, and Regeneration of Static-X” in 2025. https://blabbermouth.net/news/static-x-is-hoping-to-release-evil-disco-the-rise-fall-and-regeneration-of-static-x-documentary-in-2025 SuggestsKorn - Self TitledReleased in ‘94. From the haunting intro of “Blind” to the twisted, primal aggression in “Clown” and “Daddy,” the album is a sonic trip through the dark corners of the mind. Its themes of isolation, fear, and inner torment align perfectly with the spooky season. Gaming/TechFollow-ups/CorrectionsNetflix - Closing their AAA gaming studio. Team Blue has been shuddered with 90 projects in various stages of development, and with staff that included Joseph Staten (Halo) and Rafael Grassetti (God of War). https://www.gamefile.news/p/netflix-team-blue-socal-studio Phasmophobia - Set for Xbox Series and Playstation 5/ VR2 Oct 29th. Multi-player horror FINALLY making its way onto consoles. https://www.engadget.com/gaming/aaaaaah-phsamophobia-haunts-consoles-this-month-182546124.html https://youtu.be/BLCwws1HnYA Reg ‘ol NewsHalo 2 - Project Cartographer (MOD) is rolling out a Spooky event for Halloween. You can now play as a skeleton in Halo 2.https://www.cartographer.online Elon VS Bladerunner - Alcon Entertainment has accused Elon of copyright infringement over an image included in the Cybercab/Robotaxi event earlier this month. Calling the image “nearly identical” to images from the movie.https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/21/elon-musk-tesla-wbd-blade-runner-ai-robotaxi-.html Ford X Tesla - The free Ford adapter the company gave out to connect to Tesla chargers. There is a long term issue with the current adaptors that will negatively affect charge times over time. They will be issuing replacements “in the coming weeks.”https://www.engadget.com/transportation/evs/ford-tells-ev-owners-to-stop-using-its-free-tesla-supercharger-adapters-120023623.html Nintendo Beta - The strange beta test for Nintendo has gone live for people on the beta list. Seems that Nintendo is trying their hand at an MMORPG, with their unique twist. Kinda seems like Second Life meets Starfield. You are basically populating a planet.https://playtest-p.nintendo.com/en-us SuggestsMK1 - Halloween Towers running all week.Comic Books/BooksReg ‘ol NewsBatman: Hush 2 - Jim Lee and Jeph Loeb confirmed at NYCC the sequel to one of the classic all-time Batman stories will be coming out in 2025. Set to happen within the ongoing Batman series.https://cosmicbook.news/dc-comics-announces-batman-hush-2-peacemaker-godzilla-vs-justice-league-2 DC Vertigo - The Vertigo imprint is set to return to DC. Jim Lee also announced that they would be reviving the imprint, this time for creator-owned projects. https://cosmicbook.news/dc-comics-announces-batman-hush-2-peacemaker-godzilla-vs-justice-league-2 Peacemaker Presents: The Vigilante/Eagly Double Feature - New 5 issue mini written by Tim Seeley and Mitch Gerads. James Gunn will be story consultant as this will be a tie-in to the Peacemaker show on Max. Release before season 2 of the show.https://cosmicbook.news/dc-comics-announces-batman-hush-2-peacemaker-godzilla-vs-justice-league-2 Justice League VS Godzilla VS Kong 2 - the second book will add Ghidorah, Rodan, Mothra and “titanized” super-villains from the Justice League's rogue's gallery. No release date yet. Series one is STILL going.Spider-verse VS Venomverse - New multiverse arc starting in May 2025.https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/marvel-spider-verse-venomverse-teaser-nycc/ Suggests"The Haunting of Hill House" by Shirley Jackson – A classic haunted house story that's deeply psychological, unsettling, and atmospheric. It's all about the creeping dread and ambiguous horrors that make you question reality. 1959.TV ShowsFollow-ups/CorrectionsDaredevil - Born Again begins March 4 on Disney+.Starfleet Academy - Renewed for a second season before season 1 airs. NYCCGod Of War - The live action series has just left 3 EPs, including showrunner Rafe Judkins. Now starting the project from scratch. https://deadline.com/2024/10/god-of-war-sony-executive-producers-depart-new-writers-joining-1236118075/ Joe Rogan - CONFIRMS THAT TRUMP WILL BE ON THE SHOW THIS WEEK!TrailersThe Office (AUS) - https://youtu.be/MIEVoulYZM0 on Prime right now unless you're in the US. Fans are NOT pleased. Gender swapped roles. This is approximately the 15th time this has happened… why is it that big of a deal?Goosebumps: The Vanishing - https://youtu.be/-NsYcYtDBtc I kinda love this… David Schwimmer as the villain… maybe? Jan 10 Hulu and Disney+Creature Commandos - https://youtu.be/VdahDEpqPA8 NYCC looks good. Dec 5 on MaxStar Trek: Strange New Worlds - https://youtu.be/llvMv5-ydyQ Season 2 clip. Rhys Darby guest.Walking Dead: Dead City - https://youtu.be/ddRY0tocRzY Spring 2025 release. Yellowstone - https://youtu.be/n17AZkUXy58 Season 5B. Costner footage?? Dutton civil war.Reg ‘ol NewsTim Pool - Canceling his IRL show as it currently exists. Blames staff for the issues, when really its a management issue. THIS is why you hire STAFF and not FRIENDS!https://www.youtube.com/live/YXY0pMEI9-o?si=1PyA-3y28PvjfYD5 Carrie - Mike Flanagan's first offering to the Amazon audience appears to be a Carrie adaptation.https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/carrie-series-mike-flanagan-amazon-stephen-king-1236040179/ SuggestsGoosebumps - Season 1 2023. Streaming on Hulu. a group of five high schoolers embark on a shadowy and twisted journey to investigate the tragic passing three decades earlier of a teen named Harold Biddle — while also unearthing dark secrets from their parents' past.MoviesFollow-ups/CorrectionsStar Trek: Section 31 - Paramount+ original movie set for Friday, Jan 24 2025.TrailersThe Electric State - https://youtu.be/9gUDaPTPxwo Russo Brothers directed, Chris Pratt and Millie Bobby Brown, and A BUNCH MORE starring. Post apocalyptic family movie. March 14 on Netflix.Love Hurts - https://youtu.be/y7_gi1-bIJs?si=55yawApS8ZuAkhO1 Ky Huy Quan in a John Wick adaptation.Street Trash - https://youtu.be/N5yLRQBVNTw zombies as social commentary… weird. Seriously though, looks interesting.Reg ‘ol NewsDisney - Bob Iger set to leave the company in 2026. THIS time there will not be an extension like there was in ‘23. Disney has said they WILL name a new CEO.https://cosmicbook.news/bob-iger-leaving-disney-2026-new-chairman-announced Lord of the Rings - New live-action movie in the early stages of development according to Philippa Boyens, co-writer of the original trilogy of movies, as well as the Hobbit movie. She clarified confusion around the Hunt For Gollum movie, that it will NOT be a multi-part series. Gandalf WILL be part of the narrative though. It also will tie into the Peter Jackson series of movies.https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/lord-of-the-rings-hunt-for-gollum-wont-be-two-films-second-philippa-boyens-exclusive/ American Psycho - Remake from director Luca Gaudagnino (Challengers). Being billed by Lionsgate as a “reimagining” of the novel. Just remember the first film was directed by a woman…https://deadline.com/2024/10/american-psycho-movie-luca-guadagnino-1236120177/ John Wick - Prequel anime movie revealed to be in the works at NYCC from director Chad Stahelski.https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/john-wick-co-creator-chad-stahelski-1236041550/ SuggestsParaNorman - Norman Babcock, a young boy who can communicate with ghosts, is given the task of ending a 300-year-old witch's curse on his Massachusetts town. 2012STREAMING: PlutoRumor MillConfirmations/RefutationsCONFIRM: Joe Rogan - Rogan has confirmed that TRUMP will be on the show this week.New SourcesNew RumorsBlade - Canceled? Well more like postponed AGAIN! Bumped again for scripting concerns. Removed from the release slate for 2025.Secret Wars - Thanos returning to fight God Emperor Doom.Big Bang Theory - Stuart-centric spinoff series about the comic book shop. ALSOPossible Penny-centric spinoff possible.American Psycho - Timothee Chalamet rumored to be playing Patrick Bateman.SPECULATIONBlade - This bump MIGHT actually be advantageous. IF they are bringing Wesley Snipes back for another Blade movie, this will keep the confusion down. You can support this show by visiting our merch store, or by leaving us an Apple Podcasts review.
It's time for the Comic Talk Headlines with Generally Nerdy!LOTS of new musicNetflix bows out of gaming... kindaElon sued AGAINJoe Rogan to interview Donald TrumpAnd so much more...Plus, don't forget to subscribe for more fresh content. MusicNew Music/VideoROSÉ & Bruno Mars - APT. https://youtu.be/ekr2nIex040 CATCHY AF!! But that is par for the course with Bruno Mars. Apparently the lyrics (and title) are a play on words for a Korean drinking game. Rose from Blackpink.Cradle of Filth - Malignant Perfection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiF-PAt6N9U surprisingly restrained for a Cradle song. Trying to rekindle Nymphetamine? Video is VERY fitting for the season.Dead Icarus - 1 Million Days https://youtu.be/EjBGU-hF4js MUCH more Atreyu than anything previously released. This has Curse vibes all over it, even the video.Better Lovers - Love as an Act of Rebellion https://youtu.be/5qCT4puiPJY I almost like these guys as much as Miss Machine era Dillinger… almost. What is with the 4:3 aesthetic these days?Bloodywood - Nu Delhi https://youtu.be/A3C9NwGKgq4?si=k5I2p2CYtUofhYfE A little less on the NU sound. Still well put together, if slightly forgettable.Breaking Benjamin - Awaken https://youtu.be/cHj8PtRdMQk Decent breakdown/solo section, but don't believe the hype. NOT extra heavy.Loss Becomes - Broken Mirrors Feat Jesse Leach https://youtu.be/_dTIV7xI9jM THIS is how you use a Jesse Leach vocal spot.Tours/FestivalsJerry Cantrell - Runs from Jan 31 through March 9. Support from Filter.https://jerrycantrell.com/ Claudio Simonetti's Goblin - Oct 31 through Dec 15. Screening Demons in select cities.https://goblinsimonetti.com/tour-dates Reg ‘ol NewsIron Maiden - Paul Di'anno passed at 66. The band's first vocalist on their debut “Iron Maiden” and “Killers.” His years long battle with Lymphedema seems to have ended. Official documentary coming in 2025.https://blabbermouth.net/news/ex-iron-maiden-singer-paul-dianno-dead-at-66 https://blabbermouth.net/news/official-paul-dianno-documentary-coming-in-2025 Papa Roach - Jacoby Shaddix says the next record “makes sense” to be a heavy record. The heaviest record they have ever done he claims. Seems like another trend hop to me.https://blabbermouth.net/news/jacoby-shaddix-says-it-feels-natural-for-papa-roach-to-lean-into-heavy-sound-on-next-album As I Lay Dying - Bassist and vocalist Ryan Neff has left the band, with a very curt exit statement on his socials. This can't be an issue with Lambesis' past, this has to be just Tim being difficult to work with at this point.https://blabbermouth.net/news/bassist-vocalist-ryan-neff-quits-as-i-lay-dying Static-X - Hoping to release the documentary “Evil Disco: The Rise, Fall, and Regeneration of Static-X” in 2025. https://blabbermouth.net/news/static-x-is-hoping-to-release-evil-disco-the-rise-fall-and-regeneration-of-static-x-documentary-in-2025 SuggestsKorn - Self TitledReleased in ‘94. From the haunting intro of “Blind” to the twisted, primal aggression in “Clown” and “Daddy,” the album is a sonic trip through the dark corners of the mind. Its themes of isolation, fear, and inner torment align perfectly with the spooky season. Gaming/TechFollow-ups/CorrectionsNetflix - Closing their AAA gaming studio. Team Blue has been shuddered with 90 projects in various stages of development, and with staff that included Joseph Staten (Halo) and Rafael Grassetti (God of War). https://www.gamefile.news/p/netflix-team-blue-socal-studio Phasmophobia - Set for Xbox Series and Playstation 5/ VR2 Oct 29th. Multi-player horror FINALLY making its way onto consoles. https://www.engadget.com/gaming/aaaaaah-phsamophobia-haunts-consoles-this-month-182546124.html https://youtu.be/BLCwws1HnYA Reg ‘ol NewsHalo 2 - Project Cartographer (MOD) is rolling out a Spooky event for Halloween. You can now play as a skeleton in Halo 2.https://www.cartographer.online Elon VS Bladerunner - Alcon Entertainment has accused Elon of copyright infringement over an image included in the Cybercab/Robotaxi event earlier this month. Calling the image “nearly identical” to images from the movie.https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/21/elon-musk-tesla-wbd-blade-runner-ai-robotaxi-.html Ford X Tesla - The free Ford adapter the company gave out to connect to Tesla chargers. There is a long term issue with the current adaptors that will negatively affect charge times over time. They will be issuing replacements “in the coming weeks.”https://www.engadget.com/transportation/evs/ford-tells-ev-owners-to-stop-using-its-free-tesla-supercharger-adapters-120023623.html Nintendo Beta - The strange beta test for Nintendo has gone live for people on the beta list. Seems that Nintendo is trying their hand at an MMORPG, with their unique twist. Kinda seems like Second Life meets Starfield. You are basically populating a planet.https://playtest-p.nintendo.com/en-us SuggestsMK1 - Halloween Towers running all week.Comic Books/BooksReg ‘ol NewsBatman: Hush 2 - Jim Lee and Jeph Loeb confirmed at NYCC the sequel to one of the classic all-time Batman stories will be coming out in 2025. Set to happen within the ongoing Batman series.https://cosmicbook.news/dc-comics-announces-batman-hush-2-peacemaker-godzilla-vs-justice-league-2 DC Vertigo - The Vertigo imprint is set to return to DC. Jim Lee also announced that they would be reviving the imprint, this time for creator-owned projects. https://cosmicbook.news/dc-comics-announces-batman-hush-2-peacemaker-godzilla-vs-justice-league-2 Peacemaker Presents: The Vigilante/Eagly Double Feature - New 5 issue mini written by Tim Seeley and Mitch Gerads. James Gunn will be story consultant as this will be a tie-in to the Peacemaker show on Max. Release before season 2 of the show.https://cosmicbook.news/dc-comics-announces-batman-hush-2-peacemaker-godzilla-vs-justice-league-2 Justice League VS Godzilla VS Kong 2 - the second book will add Ghidorah, Rodan, Mothra and “titanized” super-villains from the Justice League's rogue's gallery. No release date yet. Series one is STILL going.Spider-verse VS Venomverse - New multiverse arc starting in May 2025.https://comicbook.com/marvel/news/marvel-spider-verse-venomverse-teaser-nycc/ Suggests"The Haunting of Hill House" by Shirley Jackson – A classic haunted house story that's deeply psychological, unsettling, and atmospheric. It's all about the creeping dread and ambiguous horrors that make you question reality. 1959.TV ShowsFollow-ups/CorrectionsDaredevil - Born Again begins March 4 on Disney+.Starfleet Academy - Renewed for a second season before season 1 airs. NYCCGod Of War - The live action series has just left 3 EPs, including showrunner Rafe Judkins. Now starting the project from scratch. https://deadline.com/2024/10/god-of-war-sony-executive-producers-depart-new-writers-joining-1236118075/ Joe Rogan - CONFIRMS THAT TRUMP WILL BE ON THE SHOW THIS WEEK!TrailersThe Office (AUS) - https://youtu.be/MIEVoulYZM0 on Prime right now unless you're in the US. Fans are NOT pleased. Gender swapped roles. This is approximately the 15th time this has happened… why is it that big of a deal?Goosebumps: The Vanishing - https://youtu.be/-NsYcYtDBtc I kinda love this… David Schwimmer as the villain… maybe? Jan 10 Hulu and Disney+Creature Commandos - https://youtu.be/VdahDEpqPA8 NYCC looks good. Dec 5 on MaxStar Trek: Strange New Worlds - https://youtu.be/llvMv5-ydyQ Season 2 clip. Rhys Darby guest.Walking Dead: Dead City - https://youtu.be/ddRY0tocRzY Spring 2025 release. Yellowstone - https://youtu.be/n17AZkUXy58 Season 5B. Costner footage?? Dutton civil war.Reg ‘ol NewsTim Pool - Canceling his IRL show as it currently exists. Blames staff for the issues, when really its a management issue. THIS is why you hire STAFF and not FRIENDS!https://www.youtube.com/live/YXY0pMEI9-o?si=1PyA-3y28PvjfYD5 Carrie - Mike Flanagan's first offering to the Amazon audience appears to be a Carrie adaptation.https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/carrie-series-mike-flanagan-amazon-stephen-king-1236040179/ SuggestsGoosebumps - Season 1 2023. Streaming on Hulu. a group of five high schoolers embark on a shadowy and twisted journey to investigate the tragic passing three decades earlier of a teen named Harold Biddle — while also unearthing dark secrets from their parents' past.MoviesFollow-ups/CorrectionsStar Trek: Section 31 - Paramount+ original movie set for Friday, Jan 24 2025.TrailersThe Electric State - https://youtu.be/9gUDaPTPxwo Russo Brothers directed, Chris Pratt and Millie Bobby Brown, and A BUNCH MORE starring. Post apocalyptic family movie. March 14 on Netflix.Love Hurts - https://youtu.be/y7_gi1-bIJs?si=55yawApS8ZuAkhO1 Ky Huy Quan in a John Wick adaptation.Street Trash - https://youtu.be/N5yLRQBVNTw zombies as social commentary… weird. Seriously though, looks interesting.Reg ‘ol NewsDisney - Bob Iger set to leave the company in 2026. THIS time there will not be an extension like there was in ‘23. Disney has said they WILL name a new CEO.https://cosmicbook.news/bob-iger-leaving-disney-2026-new-chairman-announced Lord of the Rings - New live-action movie in the early stages of development according to Philippa Boyens, co-writer of the original trilogy of movies, as well as the Hobbit movie. She clarified confusion around the Hunt For Gollum movie, that it will NOT be a multi-part series. Gandalf WILL be part of the narrative though. It also will tie into the Peter Jackson series of movies.https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/lord-of-the-rings-hunt-for-gollum-wont-be-two-films-second-philippa-boyens-exclusive/ American Psycho - Remake from director Luca Gaudagnino (Challengers). Being billed by Lionsgate as a “reimagining” of the novel. Just remember the first film was directed by a woman…https://deadline.com/2024/10/american-psycho-movie-luca-guadagnino-1236120177/ John Wick - Prequel anime movie revealed to be in the works at NYCC from director Chad Stahelski.https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/john-wick-co-creator-chad-stahelski-1236041550/ SuggestsParaNorman - Norman Babcock, a young boy who can communicate with ghosts, is given the task of ending a 300-year-old witch's curse on his Massachusetts town. 2012STREAMING: PlutoRumor MillConfirmations/RefutationsCONFIRM: Joe Rogan - Rogan has confirmed that TRUMP will be on the show this week.New SourcesNew RumorsBlade - Canceled? Well more like postponed AGAIN! Bumped again for scripting concerns. Removed from the release slate for 2025.Secret Wars - Thanos returning to fight God Emperor Doom.Big Bang Theory - Stuart-centric spinoff series about the comic book shop. ALSOPossible Penny-centric spinoff possible.American Psycho - Timothee Chalamet rumored to be playing Patrick Bateman.SPECULATIONBlade - This bump MIGHT actually be advantageous. IF they are bringing Wesley Snipes back for another Blade movie, this will keep the confusion down. You can support this show by visiting our merch store, or by leaving us an Apple Podcasts review.
This spooky season we are trying something different! Both Louie and Gavin have wrapped the New York Film Festival and they want to share some of the highlights/larger themes that they got from it. Also, we couldn't do a Halloween episode without telling you about some of our favorite spooky movies, so we're planning a perfect Halloween party playlist to help you entertain your guests! If you have any questions/comments/suggestions for the show, follow us on twitter @TheMixedReviews, like us on Facebook, e-mail us at reviewsmixed@gmail.com, visit our Instagram or TikTok for extra content, become a patron on our Patreon, or stop by our shop and pick up some podcast merchandise! Don't forget to subscribe to us on iTunes, Spotify, Podchaser, Audible, or anywhere else you get your podcasts.
The witching hour is nigh and so is the end to our “Hallo-Weenie!” miniseries! Join in as we further discuss our spooky season offerings, Austin's continued trip into dictatorial madness, the end of Beyond Fest, and finally our time in the nightmare factory that is HAUNT! Go to Patreon.com/shudcast where you can find FULL VIDEO for our episodes as well as a host of other perks, including access to our Discord server. Be a SHUDite today! 00:00 - 12:00ish - Intros: Austin expands upon the idea of his eventual dictatorship and we discuss the top clown in America! 12:00ish - 58:00ish - The other stuff we watched this time! Lucas - Silent Rage, The Mummy (1932), The Fall, House of 1,000 Corpses, and VHS: Beyond Cody - House of 1,000 Corpses (x2), Nightbitch, Little Bites, VHS: Beyond, Jimmy & Stiggs, Humanist Vampire Seeking Consenting Suicidal Person, Presence, ParaNorman, Cloud, Chime, The Sect, Venus in Furs, The Wild Robot, and It's What's Inside Austin - House of 1,000 Corpses, VHS: Beyond, The Autopsy of Jane Doe, Salem's Lot (2024), Apartment 7A, and The Witches (1990) Curtis - House of 1,000 Corpses, VHS: Beyond, Jimmy & Stiggs, Cloud, Chime, It's What's Inside, The Penguin, Fright Night (2011), The Cell, The House by the Cemetery, The Exorcist III, The Exorcist: Believer, Invitation to Hell, House (1985), Stage Fright (1987), Challengers, Army of Darkness (Director's Cut), Labyrinth, and Hell House LLC 58:00ish - 1:35:00ish - HAUNT - SHUDdown and discussion! 1:35:00ish - End - “Hallo-weenie!” Awards PLUS our next THEME and MOVIE!
Go to https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NOSTALGIA to download the PrizePicks app today - use code NOSTALGIA when you sign up to get $50 instantly after you play your first $5 lineup! Liaka has released a lot of movies around Halloween, with this and Coraline being their best known, but which one is better? Nostalgia Critic continues NostalgiaWeen with ParaNorman. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
THE DEAD WALK THE EARTH!!! ParaNorman Full Movie Reaction Watch Along: https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects Follow Us On Socials: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ https://www.tiktok.com/@thereelrejects?lang=en It's another Animation Monday as Coy Jandreau & Andrew Gordon give their FIRST TIME Reaction, Commentary, Analysis, Breakdown, & Full Movie Spoiler Review for the Stop-Motion Animated feature from Laika Studios (Coraline, Kubo and the Two Strings) starring Kodi Smit-McPhee (Let Me In, X-Men: Apocalypse) as Norman Babcock, a misunderstood boy who takes on ghosts, zombies and grown-ups to save his town from a centuries-old curse. ParaNorman also features the voices of Anna Kendrick (Pitch Perfect, Scott Pilgrim vs. The world), Christopher Mintz-Plasse (Superbad, Kick-Ass), Tucker Albrizzi (The Big Bang Theory), Casey Affleck (Interstellar), Leslie Mann (Knocked Up), Jeff Garlin (Curb Your Enthusiasm), Bernard Hill (The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King), Alex Borstein (Family Guy, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel), John Goodman (The Big Lebowski, Kong: Skull island), Elaine Stritch (30 Rock), & MORE! Coy & Andrew REACT to all the Best Scenes & Spookiest Moments including "Out of Hand," "Hit & Run," "Unfinished Business," "Crash," "Dog," and Beyond! Follow Coy Jandreau: Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?l... Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coyjandreau/?hl=en Twitter: https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwYH2szDTuU9ImFZ9gBRH8w Follow Aaron On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealaaronalexander/?hl=en Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Music Used In Manscaped Ad: Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM: FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
The first week of spooky season starts off nice and easy, with fall vibes and creepy times in the stop motion animated Halloween adventure Paranorman. It's a fun, endearing kids on bikes romp, with zombies and a witch's curse. Join us on Instagram @escapistroommoviepod or shootus an email at escapistroommoviepod@gmail.com, and don't forget to rate and review!
First, a quick explanation over what went wrong with the "Go" episode. Then, Kerry and Collin are joined by returning guest, Christine Sellin, to talk about Laika Animation Studios' amazing 2012 movie, "ParaNorman," a movie that accomplishes so much in just under 90 minutes and does so with style, wit, astonishment and braaaiiiinnnnssss!! What is tourism like in Salem, Massachusetts? Can a rioter ever find inner peace? Just how many horror movie references are hidden throughout this movie? All this, plus a stacked Blu-ray Gift Exchange, where they talk about Richard Pryor, Martin Scorsese, Kevin Costner's doomed epic and the greatest British gangster movie of all time. Blu-rays covered: Sony: "Richard Pryor - Live On The Sunset Strip" 4K (1982) "The China Syndrome" (1979) Paramount: "Bringing Out the Dead" 4K (1999) Warner Bros. "Horizon: An American Saga, Part 1" Warner Archive: "Black Belt Jones" (1974) "Three Little Words" (1950) "Words and Music" (1948) Shout: "Big Fan" (2009) Criterion: "Happiness" (1998) "The Long Good Friday" (1980)
Join Freddie Prinze Jr. and John Lee Brody as they dive into the heartwarming and visually stunning film ParaNorman. In this episode of 'That Was Pretty Scary,' they discuss the high-quality stop-motion animation, the talented voice cast, and the film's unique blend of horror and comedy. They explore the central themes of dealing with bullying, the importance of community, and the powerful message of overcoming trauma. Along the way, they share personal anecdotes and favorite moments, setting the stage for the week's film review. Perfect episode for horror enthusiasts and animation lovers alike!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
We close out "Back to School" month with the utterly fantastic Paranorman (2015). Norman doesn't fit in - no one wants anything to do with him except for the dead townsfolk continually bending his ear. This was a winner for us - would absolutely recommend. Ween regales us with her review of Empathy, Inc for #tubiornottubi What We're Watching Stephon Johnson (aka Snack Daddy) House of the Devil Where to Find us: Instagram Facebook Youtube TikTok Letterboxd boozeboobsandbloodpodcast@gmail.com boozeboobsandbloodpodcast.com bluesky: @b3podcast.bsky.social
SEASON 2 - EPISODE 106 - TRISTAN OLIVER - CINEMATOGRAPHER In this episode of the Team Deakins Podcast, we speak with cinematographer Tristan Oliver (ISLE OF DOGS, PARANORMAN, CHICKEN RUN). Tristan generously shares his extensive knowledge of stop-motion animation with us, and we spend the majority of the episode learning the ins and outs of shooting 9-inch puppets in a warehouse. Tristan reveals how he (and up to 50+ active units) prepares the lights and cameras for scenes in such a way that doesn't impede upon the work of the animators physically bringing the characters to life, and we discuss the effectiveness of applying the principles and practices of live-action cinematography into the world of animation. In addition to his work in stop-motion animation, Tristan has contributed to live-action projects such as POOR THINGS and the uniquely realized LOVING VINCENT, and he reflects on his experiences in both projects. In the back half of our conversation, Tristan shares how he really felt working with director Wes Anderson on FANTASTIC MR. FOX and ISLE OF DOGS, from learning how to work together on the former to engaging in a battle of wits over the feasibility of deep focus in the latter, and we learn in which films Tristan sees the most of himself. At the end, we close our conversation with an appreciation for the enduring quality of that which is handmade over that which is merely manufactured. - This episode is sponsored by Aputure
The Final Week of Animation August is here and "most" of The Horror Squad is here to discuss ParaNorman
MAILBAG HERE We're back right on time with a June Wrap-up filled with fun discussions, primarily what we read and watched in June 2024. Introduction (00:00) Mailbag (8:58) w/ special guest Sierra What we Read (19:34) Farewell, My Lovely by Raymond Chandler Down Among the Sticks and Bones by Seanan McGuire The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo by Taylor Jenkins Reid Middlegame by Seanan McGuire What We Watched (36:15) 24 Hour Party People (2002) Asteroid City (2023) The Place Beyond the Pines (2012) Thief (1981) To Catch a Thief (1955) Heathers (1989) ParaNorman (2012) Hundreds of Beavers (2022) Kinds of Kindness (2024) What's Coming Up on the Pod (1:05:20) Our Album Recs (1:06:44) Thanks for listening !
In this episode from July of 2017, Justin, Alex, & Noah review the first solo Spider-Man film in the MCU, Spider-Man: Homecoming, and take a look back at some of their favorite coming of age films. Other films and television discussed include The Beguiled, Chasing Coral, ParaNorman, Valerian and The City of A Thousand Planets, and The Big Sick. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/cinemajoes/support
This month we begin 'Frame by Frame" Hey, Did You LAIKA This One?" month! Dive into the supernatural world with the latest episode of "Hey, Did You See This One?" as we explore the enchanting tale of "ParaNorman" (2012) with the insightful commentary of our special guest, Tim Covey. Uncover the mysteries, share some laughs, and join the conversation about this animated gem. Don't miss out on the spooktacular insights and fun discussions – hit play now!
Eric Wachtman is a CG / VFX Supervisor and Art Director at LAIKA where he's been working for nearly 20 years. Prior to that, he served as the Director of CG / Visual Effects and Art Director at the Cartoon Network. LAIKA was founded in 2005 in Oregon and is guided by the vision of its President & CEO Travis Knight. Located just outside Portland, Oregon, LAIKA was awarded a Scientific and Technology Oscar® for its innovation in 3D printing in 2016. Its five films – MISSING LINK (2019); KUBO AND THE TWO STRINGS (2016); THE BOXTROLLS (2014); PARANORMAN (2012), and CORALINE (2009) – were all nominated for Oscars® and PGA Awards as Outstanding Animated Film. MISSING LINK was the first LAIKA film to win the Golden Globe® for Best Animated Feature and was awarded two Visual Effects Society (VES) awards for Outstanding Visual Effects in an Animated Feature and Outstanding Animated Character, and received seven Annie Award nominations. KUBO received a second Oscar® nomination for Outstanding Visual Effects and won the BAFTA Award, as well as three Annie Awards, the National Board of Review's Best Animated Feature citation, and 19 regional and critics' group awards. THE BOXTROLLS earned Critics' Choice and Golden Globe Award nominations and 13 Annie Award nominations, more than any other film that year. PARANORMAN garnered BAFTA, Critics' Choice, and GLAAD Media Award nominations, won two Annie Awards, and was cited as the year's best animated film by 14 critics' groups. CORALINE earned Golden Globe, BAFTA, and Critics' Choice nominations and was named one of the year's 10 Best Films by the American Film Institute (AFI). In this Podcast, Allan McKay interviews the CG / VFX Supervisor at LAIKA Eric Wachtman about his experience working on award-winning titles of CAROLINE and PARANORMAN, his leadership in founding the Portland Chapter of VES, how curiosity and passion drives one's VFX career, the secret to winning reels and so much more! For more show notes, visit www.allanmckay.com/438.
Thirteen years ago, a troubled fictional author by the name of Alan Wake stumbled into our hearts, yelling about shadow monsters and nightmares made manifest. Now he's back, and he's got a friend! What's changed in the intervening decade-plus-change? And how much of the original Alan Wake do we remember? (Hint: Literally none of it.) Also discussed: Venture Bros.: Radiant is the Blood of the Bamboo Heart, Sea of Stars, The Sisters Brothers, Paranorman, Death Stranding, Shadow of Doubt Subscribe to our newsletter at besties.fan!
Time to pop in a classic animated movie and gather around the tv in the rec room for a fun Saturday afternoon movie matinee! The next in our series of Saturday afternoon matinee movies is a deep dive into the stop motion animated adventure ParaNorman! 100% Non-toxic and the only podcast fortified with 8 essential vitamins and minerals! "Can't Beat An Original" performed by D'Elle Memphis! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/cerealboxpodcast/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/cerealboxpodcast/support
Rebecca and Craig are joined by special guest Clare Belford (@Clarble) to discuss this spooky, stop-motion, family film. We defend the Witch and her decision to curse the town that benefits financially from her murder. Looking for a tee with the best nerdy designs by independent artists from around the web? Check out www.TeePublic.com or discover our favourite designs at www.vwrstore.fromsuperheroes.com Produced by Andrew Ivimey as part of The From Superheroes Network. Visit www.FromSuperheroes.com for more podcasts, articles, YouTube series, web comics, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
On this week's episode, Writer Adam Pava (Boxtrolls, Lego Movie, Glenn Martin DDS and many many more) talks about his writing career, and why sometimes when he writes features, he doesn't always get credited. Tune in for much more!Show NotesAdam Pava on Twitter: https://twitter.com/adampava?lang=enAdam Pava on IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1106082/Free Writing Webinar - https://michaeljamin.com/op/webinar-registration/Michael's Online Screenwriting Course - https://michaeljamin.com/courseFree Screenwriting Lesson - https://michaeljamin.com/freeJoin My Watchlist - https://michaeljamin.com/watchlistAutogenerated TranscriptAdam Pava:I think that's the main thing is have samples that show exactly what your voice is and exactly what makes you different than everybody else, and what you can bring to the table that nobody else can. I think that's the first thing, but to get those open writing assignments, I think it's just a cool errand to even try because they're just so risk averse to hire anybody that hasn't done it before. I think the better shot that you have is to make smaller things and then they'll seen you've done it. You're listening to Screenwriters Need to Hear This with Michael Jenman.Hey everyone, it's Michael Jamin. Welcome back for another episode. I may be retitling the name of my podcast. So I'm, I'm going to be vague for everyone, but I'm here with my next guest, Adam Pava, who's a very talented writer I worked with many years ago on show called Glen Martin, d d s, and he works. We'll talk. I'll let you speak in a second. Pava, you just relax. I'm going to bring you on with a proper introduction because you've worked a lot, lot of features, a lot of animation. So I'm going to run through some of your many credits. Some of them are credited and some of them just are not so credited. We're going to talk about that even though you've done the work. So I think you started early on on shows like Clone High, Johnny Bravo, I'm going to skip around.You worked with us on Glen Martin d d s, but then you've also done Monsters versus Aliens Dragons. I'm going to jump around, but wait, hold on. I'm skipping a lot of your credits, Pavo, a lot of the box trolls you've done, you work a lot with Lord and Miller on all their stuff, all the Lego movies, goblins. You have something in the works with Leica, which is one of the big animation studios which you're attached to direct as well, and then also some other shows. Let's mention My Little Pony dreamland. What else should we talk about? A bunch of the label, it's hard to talk about the credits because so many of 'em are things that are either in production or development that they're not supposed to talk about yet, or they're things that I was uncredited on. And so it's a weird thing.And why are you uncredited? How does that work? It's super different from TV and movies. So back when I worked in tv, I did tv. I mean, back when we worked together it was like what, 10, 15 years ago? Something like that. But I did TV for the first decade of my career and everything you work on, you're credited, even if you're just like the staff writer in the corner who says three words and doesn't make, get a joke into the script. You're one of the credited writers. Movies are a different situation. It's like one of these dirty secrets of Hollywood where they always want to credit one writer or a team of writers. Sometimes it'll be two writers that get the credit if both of 'em did a huge chunk of the work. But the thing that usually happens these days on big studio movies anyway is they will go through three or four writers over the course of the years and years of it being in development and all those writers who worked on it before the final writer or sometimes just the first writer and the last writer will get credit and all the ones in the middle won't get credit.Or it's like the W G A has these arbitration rules where it's like, unless you did a certain percentage of the final shooting script, you're not going to get credit at all. So even though the guy who brings catering gets credit and every person on, so will you arbitrate for credit or do you go into these projects knowing that you're not going to get credit? Usually I go in knowing that I'm not going to get credit or I will. Sometimes there'll be a situation. I did about a year's worth of work on the Lego movie, the first Lego movie, and Phil and Chris, Phil Lauren and Chris Miller who directed that and wrote the first draft of the script and the final draft of the script. They're buddies of mine and so I'm not going to arbitrate against 'em and I want them to hire me in the future and I love them and they really wanted, they're written and directed by title, and so of course I'm not going to arbitrate in that sort of situation.And also to be fair, I don't think I would win that arbitration because they wrote the first draft and it was already the idea and it was brilliant and it came out of their minds and it was awesome. And then they had me do four or five drafts in the middle of there where I was just addressing all the studio notes and all the notes from the Lego Corporation and all the notes from Lucasville and all that kind of stuff while they're off shooting 21 Jump Street and then they come back. So you were just doing it to move it closer and then they knew they were, yeah, exactly. They knew they were coming back onto it and they were going to direct it and they would do another pass. They would do multiple passes once it goes into storyboarding once it's green lit. So I was just trying to get it to the green lit stage, so they had written a draft and then I did a bunch of drafts addressing all these notes and then we got a green lit off of my drafts and then they came back on and they started the storyboard process and directing process.And the story changes so dramatically during that process anyway that the final product is so far removed from the drafts I did anyway, but it was a valuable, my work was needed to get it to that point to where they can jump back onto it. But very little of that final movie is anything that I can take credit for and I wouldn't want to take credit away from them on that. So I do a lot of that kind of work. Did they have other writers that worked on Legos movie as well, or just you? On the first one, it was them and me. There was these two brothers, the Hagerman brothers who had done a very early treatment, but that had set up the original idea for the movie of Allego man sort of becoming alive. So they got a story by credit, and then they definitely always have a stable of writers that they bring in to do punch up work and to just watch the animatic and give notes and stuff like that.So there's a whole bunch of people that are contributing along the way. Funny, they come from tv, so they really run it. They run it as if they're still on TV a hundred percent. They have their writers. And so I've gotten to work on a lot of their projects as one of their staff writer type people basically is the idea. So it's all uncredited work, but it's great work. They're such great guys and you're working on really cool things every time. And so now there's a new, in the last few years, the W G A started this new thing called additional literary Material credit. And so if Lego were to have come out now, I think I would've gotten that credit on it, but at the time, that didn't exist, so I got a special thanks. And how did you, oh, really? Okay. And how did you meet these guys?They gave me my first ever job before I knew you. I mean, I had written a movie script that was an animated movie. This is like 99 or 2000. I was just out of grad. I wrote it while I was in grad school. And Wait, hold on. I didn't even know you went to grad school. Did you study screenwriting in grad school? Yeah, I went to U S C screenwriting. Oh, I did not. I hide it from you. Why do you hide it? For me? I don't know. It's a weird thing where I feel like a, it's like I was in this weird secondary program that wasn't part of the film school. It was the master's of professional writing and screenwriting. And so people would get confused and I didn't want to lead them on, but also I just feel like it got me to a place and then I was like, I didn't want be part of a good old boys club where people are just hiring U S C people or whatever.That's the whole point of going to USC for Yeah, people ask me, should I go to film school, get an M F A, and my standard answer is, no one will ever ask for your degree. No one caress about your degree. The only thing they care about is can you put the words on the page that are good a hundred? But why did you, but what it did offer me, and I'll get back to how I met Phil and Chris in a little bit, but this is a good side conversation. It gave me an opportunity to do some internships on a couple of TV shows. And that was super, super valuable. So when I was at U SS C, it was 99 and 2000, and so I interned my first year on a little show called Friends, which was still on the air. I was on the air at the time.I was just the stage intern. So I was moving the chairs around during the rehearsals and fetching coffees and getting frozen yogurt for cast members or whatever, just shitting my pants, trying to be a normal human being around all these superstars and was not, I wouldn't say it was the best experience of my life. It was definitely one of those things where I was like, everybody was super intimidating and everybody was really busy and the cast were in the middle of a renegotiation, so they're all showing up late. It just felt like everyone was angry the whole time. And I was like, dunno if I want to work in tv. But there was one writer's assistant who was just like, yeah, because on the stage you're a writer, you need to be in a writer's room, you should be an intern in a writer's room.And I was like, oh. And then so I was able to get an internship on Malcolm In the Middle, which had just sold, it was in his first year, so it was a summer show. So I jumped onto that in the summer and was able to do that. And then in that writer's room, I was like, oh, these are my people. These are actual, wait, you were an intern. They let you sit in the writer's room one. It was like for doing all, getting the lunches and making the coffee and all that stuff. Linwood was nice enough to let me just observe in the room for one day a week just to, well, if I didn't have other stuff I needed to get done. So it was super nice as long as I didn't pitch or say anything and I was just, I never would.But it was cool to, that experience showed me that show was so well written and it was so tight and those writers were all geniuses or I thought they were all geniuses. And then I'd go in the room first, I would read the scripts and I would think, oh my God, I'd never be able to do this. And then I got in the room and I'm like, oh no, they're just working really, really hard and banging their head against the wall until they come up with a perfect joke. And then by the time it's done, it seems like it's genius. But it all was just really hard work, really long hours to get to that place. So that taught me like, oh, maybe I can be one of those people. If I'm just one cog in this room, I could do that. And so that gave sort of the confidence to do that.So I had done those. Getting back, I can loop back into the Phil and Chris thing now because this actually connects really well. I had done those internships. I graduated U Ss C and I had this script that I'd written as my final project or whatever, and it was an animated movie, and I thought you could just sell an animated movie, but I didn't know, they didn't teach me this in grad school that at the time they developed 'em all. It was like only Disney and Dreamworks were doing 'em at the time. This is 2000. And they just hire directors and sort of were an artist in-house to sort of create the stories or back then that's how they would do it. And so I sent it to some agents and the response was always like, Hey, you're a really funny writer. This is really good.I can't sell this. I don't know anybody that buys animated movies, but you should write a live action movie if you can write it as good as this. And so I wrote another movie that was Live Action, but it was silly. It seemed like it might as well have been an, I go back and read it now and I'm like, it's basically an animated movie, but it didn't say it was animated, it was live action human beings. And I submitted it to a small boutique agency at the time called Broder. I don't know if you remember them, Broder Crow, we were there. Yeah. And so Matt Rice was an agent there at the time, and he had on his desk, his assistant was Bill Zody. I dunno if you know him, he's a big name agent now, but he was an assistant at the time.He read that script that I wrote and was like, oh, you know who this reminds me of these other clients that Matt has, Phil and Chris. And so he passed it on to those guys and they were looking for a writer's assistant on Clone High because they had just sold their first TV show. They were a young hotshot writers that were just deal. And so I met with Phil and Chris, and they hired me as the writer's assistant on Clone High, which was like, they were the same age as me. They were just like, we don't know what we're doing. But they're like, you've been in a writer's room, you've been knock on the middle and I friends and you, I didn't know anything. I didn't know what I was doing at all, but it said on my resume that I had had these experiences.So they thought I would be a good writer's assistant for that reason. But they were the coolest dudes from the very beginning. They were just like, you're the writer's assistant, but also you should pitch in the room. You should act like you're another writer. We have a really small staff, we have seven writers, and you're going to get episode eight. I mean, it was crazy. They were just like, they gave me a lance and that never happens anymore. How did they get an overall deal when they came? Oh, it's the craziest day. So they went to Dartmouth, they made each other at Dartmouth and then they were doing cartoons while they were there studying animation. And one of Phil's, I think it was Phil, I think it was Phil won the Student Academy Award for a student film that he did. And it was written about in the Dartmouth Alumni magazine.And there was a development exec at Disney whose son went to Dartmouth and read that article and was like, Hey, called them in their dorm room. And we're like, if you guys ever go out to la lemme know. We'll set a meeting. And they literally, the day after they graduate just drove to LA and then called 'em up and we're like, we're ready to get hired. And it worked and they got hired, it worked. They got hired just to do Saturday morning stuff, and they did that for a little bit and everything they were doing was too crazy for Saturday morning, but it was like Disney. But then Disney was like, well, you can start developing stuff for adult Disney or for primetime stuff. And so they came up with the idea for Clone High, and it originally sold to Fox as a pilot to be after the Simpsons or whatever, but then it didn't get picked up and then M T V picked it up and then they had a show.So it's crazy what a trajectory their career has. Yeah, I know. And now they're running Hollywood. Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much. Yeah. They were good guys to meet right away mean honestly, it was like to become friends with them and just to ride their wake and get some of their sloppy seconds and some of the stuff that they don't want to deal with, it's honestly, it was great. Did they call you a lot with stuff like that? Hey, we don't want to do this. It's yours less now than they used to. I mean, there was a point where I was one of their stable guys that they would call. I think they have met a lot of people in the 20 years since then, but early on it was like, I mean, even their first movie was Claudio with a Chance of Meatballs, and they brought me on to help rewrite the third act at one point.And it was just from then on, they would always send me their scripts and just add jokes or to give feedback or whatever, and they've always been like that. And then I've noticed the last maybe six or seven years as they've gotten these huge deals and all their projects are now just these massive things, it's not quite the same relationship where they would just text me or email me and be like, Hey, read this. Now. It's like they have a whole team of people. They have a machine now, but we still are friends. And then things will come up where they'll hire me for things here and there. I wonder, honestly, I don't want to make this differe about them, but it's so interesting. I kind of think, I wonder what it's like to be that busy. It almost feels like, oh my God, I'm too busy.They're so busy. They're the hardest working people I know. It's like people always wonder how this stuff comes out so good. And it's not that, I mean honestly, it's just good because they stay up later than everybody. They never stop tinkering with things. They're never satisfied. They always think the next thing they do is going to ruin their career. And so they run on this fear that propels them that, I mean, they harness it. It's not like it's a secret. They know that this is what makes them great and utilizing all their friends utilizing, they're the kind of people that are the best idea in the room wins. If you could be the PA or the head of the studio and if you have a great idea, they're like, let's try it. And they also try a lot of stuff that doesn't work and they're given the leeway to go down a lot of dead ends and then realize that's not the answer, and then back up and then try it again and try it again and try it again.And that's how a lot of animated movies are done. And so it drives everybody crazy, but also creates amazing product. That's what, because I've interviewed a couple of guys who worked at dreamworks, which John Able who does a lot of the kung movies, and he describes it the same way. I was like, wow, it's so different from writing live. It's so different from writing live action. The whole experience sounds exhausting to me. Do you find it the same? Yeah, I mean when I first started in it, I was like, this is ridiculous. Why don't they just write a script and then shoot the script? And then over the years, I've learned to love the process. I mean, I was frustrated early on when I would realize how much gets thrown out and how much changes and how much. It's just, it's out of the hands of one writer.And I think a lot of it is also just ego thinking that you could do it better than everybody. And then once I embraced, oh no, you have a bunch of really brilliant storyboard artists and you have a bunch of really brilliant character designers and head of story and a director and all these different people who, and layout artists and even the animators themselves, they all add something so vital and valuable to it, and you learn stuff from each of their steps and then you're just given the leeway to be able to keep adjusting and adjusting until you get it right. And that's why animation comes out so much tighter often than live action is just because you've been able to see the movie so many times and keep tweaking and tweaking until you get it right. Now there is a point where sometimes I feel like you can take that too far and then it just becomes like, oh, we had a great version, four drafts to go and now we've lost our way, or we're just spinning our wheels or whatever.See, that's why I get lost sometimes. I've been in shows where you rewrite something to death and then someone says, we should go back to the way it was, and I'm like, what was the way it was? I don't even remember anymore a hundred percent, and I've stopped ever thinking You can do that. I used to think I would hold out hope though they'll realize that the earlier draft was better. They'd never do. It's like everybody forgets it, and then you just have to have the confidence to be like, well, we know we'll come up with something better together that it'll be from the collaborative mind of all of us. And then I think now I've seen actually the last few years, there's a little bit of a tightening of the belt budgetarily, and that leads to faster schedules. And so instead of having seven times that you can throw the story up from beginning to end on the storyboards, like the reels and watch this movie, you can only do it three times or so.That gives you a little bit more of a window of like, okay, we got to get it right in three drafts or whatever, in three storyboard drafts. And who's driving the ship then in animation? Is it not the director in this case, it's Lord Miller, but they're the writers. Well, Lord Miller are often the directors, and so when they're the directors, they're in charge when they're the producers, they're in charge When they're on the Spider Verse movies, for example, they're the writer or Phil writes them and then they hire directors. But Phil and Chris are the producers, but they're sort of like these super directors. They're very unusual. Yeah, it's not, yeah, that's an unusual situation. But other movies somebody do at dreamworks and there's somebody do at Leica Leica, it's like the director and the head of the studio, Travis Knight, who it's his sandbox and it's his money because he's a billionaire that funds the studio.He has the ultimate say, and so the directors are always working with him, but it's always collaborative. It's always like you get in a room. When I'm working at Leica, it's always like me, the director and Travis trying to figure it out, and he's trusted me to be, I feel like he doesn't trust a lot of people. He is kind of closed off in that way, but once you earn his trust, you will be in that room and you'll figure it out together or whatever. But every movie's different, and sometimes I'm on a movie just to help fix it for a little bit, and then I'm just a fix it person that comes in for a little bit. Sometimes I just add jokes. Sometimes I just, there's been movies where it was a mystery animated movie and they're like, can you just rewrite the mystery?I was like, what a weird assignment. But I had three weeks still. But in this case, they're calling you. How are you getting this work? Just reputation, they're calling you out of nowhere? Mostly now it's reputation. I mean, sometimes I'll be submitted to it. I mean, the first time it's always like you have to be submitted. And I mean, I can tell you how I got hired on box rolls. That was a big breakthrough to me. I mean, it was after I'd done, so Lego was obviously just having known and worked with Phil and Chris forever, and then they got hired on Jump Street, and they needed somebody that they trusted to dear the ship for a while while they're gone. And so I was able to do that, and that was a huge big break. It was like, you couldn't ask for that. I just, I'm the luckiest guy in the world.But after that, at Leica, they had a draft of a movie before it was called box Rolls, it was called Here Be Monsters, and it had been in development for years and years and years and gone through a bunch of writers and they hadn't quite figured it out. It was kind of a mess. It was a big sprawling story that had a lot of moving parts to it, and they had heard that on Lego, I was able to harness a lot of the crazy ideas that Phil and Chris had and put it into a structure that made sense. And so they asked me to come in and do the same thing, or before they even did that, I did a punch up. I got hired to do a punch up on that movie, and I knew that it was going to be a huge opportunity to impress them.I really, really wanted to work at Leica because at the time, they had only had Coralline come out and I loved that movie. And then I had seen maybe ParaNorman had come out or it hadn't come out yet, but it was about to, whatever it was, I knew it was a new animation studio doing really unique original stuff, and I got asked to be part of this round table, and it was all these heavy hitter Simpsons writers. It was like J Kogan and Gamo and Pross, all these people that you're like, these are all legends. They've done a million shows and they get hired to do punch up all the time. That's like their bread and butter, right? I'm not so sure anymore, but okay, no, no, but this is in 2011 or whatever.And I was like, I am going to take this script and analyze it and come up with character moments and come up with, I'm not going to be able to compete with those guys with the best joke in the room necessarily. I'll have good jokes to pitch, but I'm going to have like, oh, what if we adjust the character to be more like this? And where those guys were all, not those guys specifically, but the room in general, these were all guys who were maybe reading five pages ahead and then pitching off the top of their head. And I spent a couple of days writing jokes in the margin and ideas in the margin, and I killed in that room. I got a lot of stuff in and to the point where a few months later when they needed a big overhaul, they asked me to come in and do sort of what I had done on Lego, just take this big thing and hone it down into, so it was a rewrite job at the beginning, and then it turned into three years of working with the director in the studio to change that story.We threw everything out and started over basically a couple times over the course of those years end up, but how are you get paid? Are you getting paid on a weekly scale? Because I don't know how that would work. Do you get paid? It starts off with a draft and then it'll be a typical thing like a draft in two rewrites, but you quickly run through those and then they keep needing your work. At least they're not getting free work out of you. They're picking no, then it turns into either a day rate or a weekly rate, and that's where I bought my house.I made so much money on my day rate. They would literally just, Leica would call me and just be like, oh, we're going to record an actor in a few days. Can you just go through all their scenes and write three or four alts for every joke? Just have a bunch of stuff. And I would spend a few days doing that, and then a day rate, you get paid really, really well, that stuff adds up. Or they would be like, we just need one more pass on the third act, or we just need to go through the whole script and remove this character. And so all these little weekly assignments, and then you're just like, that was very lucrative doing it that way.Michael Jamin:Hey, it's Michael Jamin. If you like my videos and you want me to email them to you for free, join my watch list. Every Friday I send out my top three videos. These are for writers, actors, creative types. You can unsubscribe whenever you want. I'm not going to spam you and it's absolutely free. Just go to michaeljamin.com/watchlist.Adam Pava:You usually, because done so much animation and it sounds like you always set out to do animation, is that I did set out to do it, and then I didn't set out to only do it. I thought I could do both, but you kind of get pigeonholed a little bit. It's hard. I've gotten hired to write a few live action movies, but there were always a live action movie that had an animation element to it. It could be a hybrid movie or be a family movie that they think, oh, because you've done family work, you can do this. But nobody would ever hire me to just do a horror movie or whatever. And I don't know if I'd be the right guy for that either. I think my sensibility tends to be more animation based, but also, I think movies are such a different thing than TV where there's like, they're so expensive.If you're spending $80 million or whatever, you want to hire somebody that's done it before. So it's really, really hard for the studio bosses or even the lower level executives to fight to hire you if you've never done that kind of thing before. And so you get, it's not pigeonholed. I love doing it and I love the work, but it's also, I get why I get hired for certain things and not for other things. But also I feel super lucky because animation is one of the only parts or the only genres of film that has not shrunk over the years. Movies in general, they've stopped making live action comedies almost completely, except for stuff on streamers. They don't make rom-coms anymore. They barely make action comedies. It's like they make superhero movies and Star Wars movies, but then animation movies are evergreen. And so I feel really lucky that I sort of fell into this area that there is still work to be had.So yeah, I mean, you really have put together a really pretty impressive career. And I know not all your credits, not all your work is credited, so what I mean? Yeah, well, it's either uncredited or there's so many projects that died Vine. So it's like you read my, I said you that list of credits and it's like I'm looking at it over earlier today. Oh, it's just a list of debt projects, but that's expected. When you go into it, you go, okay, they're not all going to go. That's expected. It's all right. I was looking at my, I was organizing my, it's a strike, so I have time to do these things, organizing my folders on my computer and putting everything in, and I had over 150 folders of each. One is its own project, and not all of those are work that I've done.Some of them are like, I got sent this thing to pitch on, and then I had one meeting and it went away. And some of 'em I did a few weeks on, or some of 'em I just did day work on, but 150 projects over the years. Some of 'em I'm on for a year or two or three years. So it's insane. And so the hit ratio is super low of, I got really lucky when I transitioned out of TV and went into movies. It was like the first two things. Well, I sold a thing to Dreamworks that didn't get made, but then right after that, it was Lego and box trolls. They both came out in 2014, and I worked on both of 'em, and I was like, oh, this is going to be easy. You work on a movie and then it comes out and then it's cut to 10 years later and it's like nothing else is my name on it has come out.I've worked steadily. I've worked really well. I've been very happy. But it's definitely, it's a different thing than TV where you're just working and getting credited all the time. Well, yeah, but it also sounds like, I don't know, it sounds like to me, maybe I'm wrong. It sounds like you don't need to hustle as much doing what you do. No, I feel like it's the opposite because on TV you can get on a show and you're running for years, but on a movie you always know what's going to add, but they're coming to you. People are coming to you with offers, in other words. Oh yeah, sometimes. I mean, yes, the ones that end up happening, that's true. But there's so many that I'm just on a list at the studio, but I'm in a bake off with six other writers and I don't get it.So you put a lot of work so people don't know what to bake off is. So this is when you have to pitch to get the job and you have to put in several weeks of work. That's the worst. That's just the worst. And that's the majority of my life. Oh, is it? That's like, yeah. Yeah. So there's definitely, I mean, between Phil and Chris and Laika, I have, and a little bit of Dreamworks now. I'm doing my third movie for them right now. So that's pretty good over 10 years, three movies. But other than those places, it's always like you're getting sent stuff, but that doesn't mean they want you. It just means they want to hear a bunch of takes, and so you have to try to fight for the job if you really want it. Or I used to spend months or maybe eight months coming up with the take and having every detail worked out.And then I realized over time, they don't actually want that. They want a big idea and some themes and some ideas of what the set pieces are, and they want to know that you, I mean, honestly, it's, I don't even recommend that young writers go out for them because you're not going to get it anyway, because they're always going to go with somebody that has done it before. Especially, I mean, not always, if you might be the rare exception, but so much. Well, then what do you recommend to young writers to do? Dude, I don't know. I mean, I think you have to write great samples. I mean, I think that's the main thing is have samples that show exactly what your voice is and exactly what makes you different than everybody else, and what you can bring to the table that nobody else can.I think that's the first thing. But to get those open writing assignments, I think it's just a fool's errand to even try, because they're just so risk averse to hire anybody that hasn't done it before. I think the better shot that you have is to make smaller things, and then they'll see you've done, it's not even try to get these big studio things, get a small indie thing if you can, or make your own thing if you can, or just try to work your way up in a smaller way. I mean, all the big name directors out there all started on small indie movies. And I think that's got to be the same for writers now too. So many fewer movies. Is there anything that you're doing on the side just for the love of it that you're creating for yourself? Or is it, I haven't, in the last few years, I haven't.I've just been busy with work, but during the pandemic, I had plenty of time. Nobody was buying movies, and I am wrapped up on something and I had an idea that I thought was going to be my next big sale, and that it was an idea about a virus that went, it was a comedy thing, but it was this idea where it was sort of based on the idea that Christmas is getting longer and longer every year, where people put up their lights in decorations sooner and sooner, and you start seeing the stuff for sale in October or whatever. And so I was like, oh, it felt like Christmas was a virus that was slowly taking over the world. And I was like, what if it's a zombie movie, but Christmas is the virus? And so it was sort of a Christmas apocalypse thing where Christmas takes over the world and one family didn't get infected and had to fight back.So I was like, this is going to be a big seller. And then I was like, and then Covid hit, and it was like nobody wanted to buy a thing about a virus taking over the world, so I literally spent the pandemic. To answer your question, I wrote it as a novel. Instead, I wrote it as a middle grade novel, a y, a novel. Did you publish it? Not yet. We're trying. So we're out to publishers, and it took a while to figure out literary agents, which are very different world and everything, but the idea is to hopefully sell it as a book and then be able to adapt it as a feature. But yeah, it was so fun to write, and it was so freeing to not be stuck in 110 pages and to, I mean, I already had the whole thing outlined from the pitch when I was going to pitch it, so I knew the structure of it, so I just kept it as the structure of a movie, but I expanded on it and got more into the character's heads and that kind of stuff.But I had such a fun time writing that, and I was just like, man, someday when the work dries up, I am going to look forward to writing novels instead. And oh, yeah. The funny thing is when you describe the literary word going out to publishers, it's not that different from Hollywood. You think It is. It's not. It's the same hell. Oh, absolutely. But you and I haven't had to deal with breaking into Hollywood in a long time. And then in the literary world, they're like, oh, you've written movies. We don't care. We don't care at all. So it's starting over. And U T A tried to help a little bit, but they're like, we don't really know what to do. And then, so it's, I've been, my manager has been introducing me to editors and stuff, literary editors, and they've been really receptive, and it's been good trying to find the right one and the person I jive with. But it's very much like, oh, you're starting from scratch all over again. And for less money, no money. I mean, literally, I don't know how you would make a living off of this. I mean, I think we're spoiled a little bit, but what was the money they were telling you? Can you say, I don't want to say you don't, but it was basically about, it was less than a 10th that I would get paid on a movie.It was about my weekly rate. So I was telling you, I do weekly jobs on movies, and it's like if I do a weekly on a studio movie or I could sell a novel, or you could work five years on a novel, and I'm like, oh, this is not a way to support a family, but it was really fun. Someday when I'm just doing it for fun, I would love to do it. Wow, how interesting. Wow. So your best advice, because you're not an animator, you're not even an artist, are you? No, I don't draw or anything. I just love animation. I just always loved animation. So I don't know. I think when I was in seventh grade when the Simpsons started, and that blew my mind, and I was like, I remember telling my dad, I think I want to write on this. It was the first time I recognized, oh, people are writing these jokes. It was very, I think, more self-aware than most comedy was. And I was in junior high and I was just like, I want to be a writer on a show like this. I never was a writer on that show, but a bunch of other stuff.Now, as far as directing, because I know you're attached to possibly direct this project, where does your confidence come from that to direct? I mean, I don't know if I have confidence in it. I mean, I would want to co-direct it. In animation, you often get paired with another, if you're a writer, you'd get paired with an experienced animation director who comes from the visual side. So either an animator or a store wear artist or visual development artist. And I just feel like some of the projects I've been doing, you sort of act as more than just a writer anyway. You're sort of meeting with the creative heads all the time, making these big decisions that affect the projects. And at a certain point, I'm like, well, if I write something, that project that I, that's at life that I was attached to, it probably won't even happen at this point.It's been a few years, and it's kind of sitting there waiting for Travis to decide if he wants to make it. But it was a personal project to me, and it was like this would be the one that I was like, I would really want to see this all the way through. And I'm sure at that studio at this point, he's, Travis himself who runs the studio, is kind of directing all the latest projects anyway, so I would be co-directing with him. And so he would really be in charge, and I would just be, they're up in Seattle, right? Portland? Yeah, Portland or in Portland, yeah. So do you go up there a lot for Yeah, when I'm on a project, so usually it's like if I'm just writing it before it's green lit, which is most of the time I'll just fly up there for meetings just to get launched or whatever, and then go back up after I turn it in to get notes. But if it's in production on box trolls, and then there's another upcoming one that I did a bunch of production work on, they'll fly me up there to work with the board artists and stuff. And that's a crazy, that place is so nice.It's like a wonderland. I mean, it's like this giant warehouse downstairs that they have all the stages and they're all covered with black velvet rope, I mean black velvet curtains. So to keep all the light out and everything. And that's where they're moving all the puppets and everything, the stop motion. And then upstairs it's like the offices, and it just feels like a corporate office building with cubicles and stuff. It's very weird. But you go downstairs and it's like there's people animating, there's this huge warehouse where they're building all the props and they're like armature section where they're adding all the skeletal armature to the You never went with us to, because Kapa was like that in a cup of coffee in Toronto when we did Glen Martin. Yeah, it was amazing though. Similar. But Kapa is doing it on a budget, and these guys are spending so much money, it's not a viable way to make money to make these animated stop motion animated movies.They don't do it to make money. He does it. He loves it. Oh, really? Oh my gosh. Yeah, because Travis Knight is the son of Phil Knight who've gone to Nike, so he's got sort of a lot of money, and it's his hobby shoe money. He's got shoe money, but he is a brilliant animator. He is a super smart, interesting dude who wants to make things that are different than anybody else. And so it's an amazing place to work because nowhere else do you ever have the conversation of like, oh, we could do this if we wanted to do it, where more people would see it, or we could do it this way, which is cool and we want to do this. It's fun and weird.Not that he doesn't care about an audience, he does care about an audience, but it's not most important to him is making something that's awesome to him for the art. And so it's a very different way of looking at things. But I've been in situations there where it's like we're doing upstairs, doing a rewrite with me and the director changing the whole third act or whatever, and then I go downstairs and just tour the stages and the workshops, and I'll meet a puppeteer who's like building this giant puppet who's telling me this is the biggest puppet that's ever been created in Stop motion, and here's the 17 different places where I can articulate it. And I'm just thinking like, dude, we cut that yesterday upstairs. Oh no. And he's been working on it for a month. Oh, no. But I can't say anything. I'm just sort of like, oh, yeah, that's awesome.It's so great. You're doing great work. Anyway, I'm going to get back upstairs. That's so heartbreaking. But they burn through so much money just doing it all by hand. It's so crazy. But it's so beautiful, so I love it. And so you were literally upstairs, they gave you a small office and you just start typing? Yeah, that's literally, I mean, usually when I'm there, it's like they just put me in some random cubicle that nobody else is using or it's not a cubicle, a little office that is or whatever, somebody office. And you'll stay there for a few days or a few weeks or what? Yeah, exactly. Depending on how much they need me. So it either be a few days or a few weeks. And then on box rolls, I was up there. I would be up there for a week, relining some stuff, and then I'd come back home for two weeks and write those pages up.And I mean, I'd be writing in the evenings after the meetings and stuff too, while I was up there. But when we are rewriting, it's a train that's moving and it's like the track is you're running on a track and you got to keep pressure. What did you think of staying there in Portland? Did you like it? I did it. It's hard because my family's here and life is here, but if that movie had gone that I was attached to Coder Act, we were planning on moving there for that for three or four years. That's how it would take. Interesting. Would you have sold your house here or just rented it out? I'd have rented it out, I think. Interesting. Yeah, you, it was like we were having all these conversations, and then it's the longer it goes, we're like, that's probably not going to happen.We don't have to think about this right now. How interesting. That's so key. It really takes that long, man. Oh yeah. They're so long. And then also, it's like there is this weird thing in animation where it's not uncommon for a movie to go through two or three directors over the course of its many years in production. So it's like, why? I know. Just because they're beasts. And sometimes in the same way that you're changing the story so many times over the years, sometimes you make such a drastic change that it's no longer the vision of that director, and it's just not a right fit anymore. And I've seen that happen on a lot of movies that I've been on. I mean, Boxtrolls didn't end up with the same two directors that it started with. One of the two stayed on it, but the other one didn't.Oh, no, this sounds very frustrating to me. It sounds It does. And then other movies up there have gone through different directors, and so I was like, even if I had gotten hired as the director, I was in the back of my head. I always knew this might not last even if I'll do my best and I'll try to make it work. But you haven't even started and you're finding I'm being fired. Yeah, totally. But I mean, it's a weird thing. It's not TV where you're on a show for a year and then hopefully you get the second year if you get one. It's like in movies, they fire and hire different writers all the time, and so directors less, but writers, it really is pretty common. I've been on both sides of it where it's like, I used to take it really harder, fired off a movie.You're like, oh my God, did they not like the draft? I did. And usually it's like, no, we liked it, but now there's a director on it and they want to take a different direction. Or Oh, the director has a friend that they want to work with that they work with as a writer. Or other times I've been that guy that a director has brought on to rewrite somebody else, and I always try to be super nice about it. Now that I've seen both sides of it, I always try to reach out to the previous writer and be like, Hey, I just want you to know it's in good hands. Or sometimes if I'm the one that's fired, I reach out, be like, Hey, if you want to know where the skeletons are buried, happy to get in lunch with you. Just to be like, here's the pitfalls to look out for.This is where people don't realize that people on the outside just don't realize what it's actually like when you're the writer. You're a successful working writer. And I think they have a very different vision of the reality of a hundred percent. I didn't know the job was, I thought the job was going to be writing the whole time. Most of the job is it's playing politics with the studio and the executives and the director and Well, what do you mean politics, getting navigating the notes? What do you mean? Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's like the notes, but also the personalities. It's like a lot of the job I feel like is to go in and to make everybody feel comfortable with where you're taking it. Because you walk into a room and sometimes you could feel like, oh, the director thinks they're making a very different movie than the head of development thinks.Then that's different than what the producer thinks. And that's different than what the head of the studio thinks. It's like I've been in a room where it's like Jeffrey Katzenberg is just like, guys, guys, guys, you're all thinking about this all wrong. And you just have to be like, okay, how can I find solutions that makes everybody happy, that make everybody happy? And that's a huge part of the job. I mean, honestly, when I did the Lego rewriting with Phil and Chris, that's what the whole job was, was just like, how do I make Warner Brothers who didn't know what they had? They thought it was a toy commercial. They were very skeptical of the whole thing, Phil and Chris, who wanted to make some beautiful art. And it was cool with cool ideas. And Lego Corporation who wanted to make a toy commercial and Lucasfilm who didn't want their characters to be in it, and DC who didn't know whether they should be or not.And you're just like, how do I get in a room? And and usually if you come up with a great gag or great joke that articulates the, that illuminates the tone of the thing. So they all go, oh, okay. That's the thing. So the round of notes, like you're saying, oh, it's incredible, but for everybody and everyone's got conflicting. I don't even know walking into that job, and all I care about is I don't want my friends, Phil and Chris to think I fucked up their movie because they're trusting me just so I keep it moving. But I would think even for them, it's like, how do I get this movie made when I have so many competing notes and to their credit account, great, but still that is a hundred percent to their credit, they have a genius ability to, not only are they great writers and great directors, I think more than that, they have this sense of how to make everybody in a room think that the ideas came from them.It's like, yeah, they're great at, they'll go into a room, I think sometimes having some ideas in their pocket, but it feels like the room came up with the ideas together, and then everybody's like, yes, we did it. Pat ourselves on the back. And everybody, the executives' seem happy. But sometimes it actually does come out that, I mean, those brainstorm sessions really do create a new idea, and sometimes it's them trusting the process that that's going to work out. And sometimes I think they literally are like, well, we can go this way or this way, but I know it'll be easier if they think they had the idea. So let's go this way for now. And then later they know it's going to change a thousand times anyway in the storyboards, and then they could figure it out for real later. Because all these see people like that.They're very well paid, but in my opinion, they're earning every penny of this a hundred percent. They're earning every, it's not that easy. This job, I feel like I've gotten better over the years where I've taken my ego out of it. I used to have a much bigger ego, you might remember, but I feel like I can be, now, I can just go in a room and be like, I'm just going to try to help. I'm just going to be like, how could I make everybody feel comfortable? How can I make everybody feel like we're on the right page together and create this thing? I know that it's like the process is going to take years and years, and the relationship is more important than the individual story note or whatever. It's like that's what's going to matter over the long term of this project.It's that we all trust each other and that we can make something great together. And that's more important than fighting for a joke or fighting for a story moment or a take, or even exactly, either. It's about fighting the relationship, and I've said this before, it's about the relationship is the most important thing, and sometimes you have to sacrifice what you think is the best story, the best moment for the greater good of the relationship. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Wow. I feel like this has been eyeopening even for me, and I feel like my eyes are fucking opened. You know what I'm saying?We've done some movie work, but obviously we work mostly in tv, but the movie side, the movie side was never really appealing. I remember because we shared the same agent for our futures, and I remember he gave us a conversation. I was like, I dunno if I want to work in movies again. It's weird. It sounds hard. It's different because in TV you're the boss, right? I mean, when you're the showrunner, you're the boss. Yeah. You've been there for a long time. And in movies, you're never the boss. I mean, I gave up on, I mean, before I worked with you, there was one TV show I ran and I co ran with my friend Tim, and we were the bosses, and I hated it. I did not enjoy it. It was like all the meetings and all the decisions and the budgets and the interpersonal relationships and all that stuff.I was like, I was not good at it back then, and I don't know if I'd be better now, and I just was like, you know what? I just want to be part of a team and I want to be a writer. And it's like in movies, that's what you are. You're just part of this big team in a different way. I mean, I guess when you're a staff writer or coming up through the ranks and tv, you're part of a team too, but you can be like, you're also a much more integral part of the team, the one writer on it at the time. Or in movies, you're like, when you're the writer, you're the writer and they all look to you for that one job. Or if you're on a staff when I'm on a show with you or whatever, you might look to me for one type of, it's very different. I'm a cog in this room.It's never, you never have to be a hundred percent on your A game every day for you can showing it in a little bit coast. Wow. Adam Paval, what an interesting conversation. This is enlightening for me. Very enlightening. Yeah, man. Are you having everybody on from the old days, Brian? Well, I had Alex Berger on a while ago. We talked a little bit about that script that you guys wrote together. Well, there's two things on Glen Martin. You were always pestering me to do a musical. Yeah, I think, I don't know how to write a musical. And you're like, this is why I've work in animated features. I've written three musicals since I, so lemme let you do the movie. I was like, dude, I don't know how to do so go ahead and knock yourself out. That was fun. And then you guys came back with that Christmas episode. I thought you guys both hit it out of the park. I was like, let's shoot it, let's shoot it.I think it took, because that was all second year stuff and it took a little bit of time to figure out tonally what we were doing and then just to get a little crazier. And then, I mean, those episodes were like, yeah, I could be a little bit more myself of writing the weird stuff that I wanted. I mean, the other one I remember fondly is that weird Funshine episode. Was that the musical one or was that, I don't remember. Dude, fun cine was, it was like the planned community in Florida that was basically celebration Florida and they all realized that everybody was on being drugged and were lactating out of their breast and all that. Oh, that's right. Now I remember the guy, there was a scene where there's a pregnant man or something. It was fucking nuts. And I was like, oh, now we're writing the show that I could write.The first year, I think it was a little bit more like I was a little square pa in a round hole where it was like I didn't have a family at the time and it was a family show. It was about a dad and a mom trying to navigate their crazy kids and I was like, I don't know what the fuck. Crazy in that show. It's a shame. We didn't do more seasons. We weren't nuts. It was fun. It was a fun time. For sure. I got some of the puppies right over there, so see, yeah, I got the one you gave me of me that one from the college episode. Oh right, the college episode. That's right. We put you in. You ran the gauntlet I think, didn't you? I think that, yeah, that's exactly right. Funny. Yeah, funny. Adam, Papa, where can people, is there anything want, we can plug people, find you.Are you on social media? Is there anything? I'm not super active. I'm on Twitter. You can find me on Twitter. Adam Papa or Adam or whatever it's called now. X X, I'm on X, but don't really, I'm not super active on it. I don't have anything to plug. Everything's going to come out in four years. Yeah, right. Yeah. Look for Adam Papa in four years when something drops to the movies. That's the process. Dude, thank you again so much for doing this. This was a really interesting conversation. I haven't talked yet, spoken to anybody about this kind of stuff. You are a wealth of information. Alright. Yeah, it's fine. Everyone, thank you so much. Until the next episode drops, which will be next week. 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