Podcasts about Athenian democracy

Please enjoy this preview of my new podcast, Democricide.Athens wasn't always a democracy, but when a tyrant overplayed his hand and a revolutionary proposed something better, it launched a new form of government that changed the Greek world.Sources: The Peloponnesian War, by Donald KaganLords of the Sea, by John R. HaleSupport the show

Please enjoy this preview of my new podcast, Democricide.Athenian Democracy was established, but who cared? Compared to the mighty Persian empire, the Greek city states were a bunch of backwaters. And that's how history may have remembered them, if not for one suicidally ambitious Greek, and one desperately crafty Athenian who saved his city from destruction.Sources: The Peloponnesian War, by Donald KaganLords of the Sea, by John R. HaleSupport the show

We welcome the wonderful Jay Samons to the podcast! Jay is Professor of Classical Studies at Boston University and Chief Academic Advisor and Executive Director of the Institute for Hellenic Culture and the Liberal Arts at The American College of Greece in Athens. Born in Arkansas and educated at Baylor University and Brown University, Samons has taught ancient history and classical languages at Boston University for 31 years, winning many teaching awards including the university's highest honor, the Metcalf Award for Excellence. He has published numerous works on classical Greece, focusing in particular on the relationship between Athenian democracy and imperialism, the issue of national character, the relevance of ancient history for the modern world. His books include Empire of the Owl: Athenian Imperial Finance (2000), What's Wrong with Democracy? From Athenian Practice to American Worship (2004), and Pericles and the Conquest of History (2016), as well as the edited volumes The Cambridge Companion to the Age of Pericles (2007) and Athenian Democracy and Imperialism (1997).Professor Samons has lectured at many institutions including Oxford University, The University of Edinburgh, the University of Pennsylvania, Brown University, Duke University, Pomona College, and the Getty Villa. Among other named lectures, Samons delivered the annual Bancroft Memorial Lecture at the U.S. Naval Academy in 2020. In 2018 Professor Samons was a Visiting Scholar at St John's College, Oxford, where he continued work on a book-length study on the rise of classical Athens.Professor Samons' outreach efforts have included lectures at many elementary and secondary schools, often in support of the Marathon Education Committee, as well as talks and seminars for teachers (including The Examined Life) and collaborations with the Greek Consulate in Boston, especially in conjunction with the Boston University Philhellenes.In various roles at The American College of Greece, Professor Samons has helped to implement the college's strategic plan by creating new institutes and centers of excellence designed to foster research, international collaboration, and economic growth. Most recently he has focused on expanding undergraduate and graduate programming, especially in ways that emphasize Greece's important historical and contemporary role as an intellectual and cultural leader.See more on GreekAF!

Host Mitch Jeserich recounts the story of how the decline and destruction of he Ancient Athenian Democracy happened. Included in this episode are such stories of how the Athenian Democracy turned into a militaristic empire and how though a democratic process, Athens executed its most famous philosopher. The post A History of the Athenian Democracy (Part 3): Decline and Fall of the Empire appeared first on KPFA.

Host Mitch Jeserich talks about how democracy was born out of a class struggle between the aristocrats and the poor masses in ancient Athens. This episode covers part 2 of the 3 part telling of the oldest fully formed democratic system we know of 2500 years ago.  In this episode we hear about tyrants, demagogues, coups, reformers, and the people. The post A History of the Athenian Democracy (Part 2): Demagogues, Tyrants, Coups, and the People appeared first on KPFA.

Host Mitch Jeserich tells the story of the oldest democracy we have account of, how it was born and how it evolved 2500 years ago in ancient Athens.   The post Special Fund Drive Programming – Ancient Athenian Democracy Part 1: The Tyrannicide appeared first on KPFA.

Get access to The Backroom Exclusive podcasts by becoming a Patron:  ⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/OneDime⁠ In this episode of 1Dime Radio, I am joined by Victor Bruzzone of the Pill Pod (Plastic Pills Podcast) to discuss forms of radical democracy such as Sortition - “the lot system” in which representatives are selected at random by lottery. It was used in Ancient Athens and for a time also in the Republics of Florence, Venice and Genoa.  Sortition is not the same thing as “direct democracy,”  such as assembly (which was also used in Athenian Democracy). The Marxist Paul Cockshott also proposes the sortition system in his book, “Towards a New Socialism.”  In The Backroom, Victor proposes his own variant of sortition, which he has been working on, which I found quite fascinating and innovative. You don't want to miss it.  Timestamps:  00:00 Preview of The Backroom 03:02 A Radical Form of Representative Democracy 07:20 Sortition in Athens and the Italian City States 12:24 Pros and Cons of Sortition 41:01 Leo Strauss and The Aristocratic Reading Method 54:12 Intelligence and Epistocracy 01:04:33 Sortition vs Elections Outro Music by Karl Casey The book I was refering to was called “Principles of Representative Government” by Bernard Manin Read More with Speechify: https://share.speechify.com/mzrxH5D Check out the Academic Edgelord podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/3509RjVqJgSvEXC0X94Bri Check out the Pill Pod (Plastic Pills podcast)  https://www.youtube.com/@PillPod Follow Viktor Bruzzone on X: https://x.com/victorbruzzone Follow me on X:  https://x.com/1DimeOfficial Check out the 1Dime videos if you haven't already: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@1Dimee/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Become a Patron at ⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/OneDime⁠⁠⁠⁠ to support the show Be sure to give 1Dime Radio a 5-star rating if you enjoy the show!

Hugh Pope spent two years editing and publishing his late father's book about Athenian democracy. He became convinced that it is a superior form of governance that can be adopted even today, and indeed it is being used as citizens' assemblies, which government sometimes establish as a way of reaching consensus about issues that could not be addressed through regular representative institutions. For the video, audio podcast, transcript and comments; https://tosavetheworld.ca/episode-609-shall-we-try-athenian-democracy

Power up! After witnessing a space-based phenomenon and dipping back into just what was so great about Athens, the OSPod crew is delving with friend of the pod JM8 from Second Wind! We talk everything from life feuds with badgers to video game mechanics we do (and very much do not) like!Our podcast, like our videos, sometimes touches on the violence, assaults, and murders your English required reading list loves (also we curse sometimes). Treat us like a TV-14 show.Where to find JM8:Design Delve: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUBKwq0XD0uc3-bC1m0IYvbdu8dEX4rd2&si=9ahxe7S5gL51HWZl Twitter: @JM8andLudoSecond Wind: https://www.youtube.com/@SecondWindGroupPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/SecondWindGroupOSP has new videos every Friday:https://www.youtube.com/c/OverlySarcasticProductionsChannelQuestion for the Podcast? Head to the #ask-ospod discord channel:https://discord.gg/OSPMerch:https://overlysarcastic.shopFollow Us:Patreon.com/OSPTwitter.com/OSPyoutubeTwitter.com/sophie_kay_Music By OSP Magenta ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

Peter MacLeod leads a Canadian company, Masslbp, which organizes "citizens assemblies" – gatherings of representative samples of populations selected by "sortition" – to inform public policies. MacLeod began this activity when he was a university student and both B.C. and Ontario were holding citizens assemblies to explore electoral reform. His experience influenced Ireland to use that process to decide about abortion and other controversial issues. We owe this innovation to the ancient Athenians. For the video, audio podcast, transcript and comments: https://tosavetheworld.ca/episode-583-governing-by-juries.

Greg Jenner is joined in Ancient Greece by special guests Prof Michael Scott and comedian Alice Fraser as they examine the start of democracy with the Athenians. Aside from it obviously being a system that only benefited men, we will take a closer look at the fundamental issues that still apply today, why you'd want to avoid red ropes and broken pots, and just why the Romans disliked the very idea of it. Research by Rosie Rich Written and produced by Emma Nagouse and Greg Jenner Assistant Producer: Emmie Rose Price-Goodfellow Project Management: Siefe Miyo and Isla Matthews Audio Producer: Abi Paterson A production by The Athletic for BBC Radio 4.

Host Mitch Jeserich tells the story of the oldest democracy we have account of, how it started and evolved 500 thousand years ago in ancient Athens. KPFA is offering a limited edition of The Trial of Socrates by I.F. Stone In unraveling the long-hidden issues of the most famous free speech case of all time, noted author I.F. Stone ranges far and wide over Roman as well as Greek history to present an engaging and rewarding introduction to classical antiquity and its relevance to society today. The post KPFA Special – A History of the Athenian Democracy (Part 3): Decline and Fall of the Empire appeared first on KPFA.

Host Mitch Jeserich tells the story of the oldest democracy we have account of, how it started and evolved 500 thousand years ago in ancient Athens. KPFA is offering The Trial of Socrates by I.F. Stone (limited edition) In unraveling the long-hidden issues of the most famous free speech case of all time, noted author I.F. Stone ranges far and wide over Roman as well as Greek history to present an engaging and rewarding introduction to classical antiquity and its relevance to society today. The post KPFA Special – A History of the Athenian Democracy (Part 2): Demagogues, Tyrants, and the People appeared first on KPFA.

Host Mitch Jeserich tells the story of the oldest democracy we have account of, how it started and evolved 500 thousand years ago in ancient Athens. KPFA is offering a limited edition of The Trial of Socrates by I.F. Stone In unraveling the long-hidden issues of the most famous free speech case of all time, noted author I.F. Stone ranges far and wide over Roman as well as Greek history to present an engaging and rewarding introduction to classical antiquity and its relevance to society today. The post KPFA Special – A History of the Athenian Democracy (Part 1): The Tyrannicide appeared first on KPFA.

This episode is a crossover collabo with Graham Culbertson of the Everyday Anarchism podcast. Graham asked me over to talk Athenian democracy, Plato, anarchism and how modern meritocratic education sucks. We had a nice time with it and hope you do too. Support the show

This episode is a crossover with Good in Theory, a political theory podcast by Clif Mark. I highly recommend Clif's podcast; in addition to interviews and one-off episodes, Clif did a series in which he adapts and explains Plato's Republic - the entire thing! Almost every topic in political theory is addressed in The Republic - and Clif guides you through the foundations of all the arguments we are still having today. Although from an anarchist perspective Plato is wrong about everything.In this episode, Clif and I discuss ancient Athenian democracy and the extent to which does and doesn't resonate with democratic ideas today. From there I try out my idea (borrowed from David Graeber, as usual) that a truly democratic system would be compatible with anarchism, and Clif offers some constructive criticism to that idea.If you enjoyed this episode, you should check out Clif's 3-part series on ancient Greek government:The PolisSparta: Killer BeehiveAthens: Ahoi Polloi!

India is run in a top-down way with a Northern bias -- and this is a problem. Nilakantan RS joins Amit Varma in episode 320 of The Seen and the Unseen to discuss how and why our Southern states perform so much better -- and are punished for it. Also discussed: virtue ethics, the charms of Madras and the dangers of storytelling. (FOR FULL LINKED SHOW NOTES, GO TO SEENUNSEEN.IN.) Also check out:1. Nilakantan RS on Twitter, YouTube and Instagram. 2. South vs North: India's Great Divide -- Nilakantan RS. 3. Chandrahas Choudhury's Country of Literature — Episode 288 of The Seen and the Unseen. 4. Lessons in Investing (and Life) — Episode 208 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Deepak Shenoy). 5. Crossing Over With Deepak Shenoy -- Episode 271 of The Seen and the Unseen. 6. Amitava Kumar Finds the Breath of Life — Episode 265 of The Seen and the Unseen. 7. Aadha Gaon — Rahi Masoom Raza.. 8. From Cairo to Delhi With Max Rodenbeck — Episode 281 of The Seen and the Unseen. 9. Phineas Gage. 10. The Great Man Theory of History. 11. Pandemonium in India's Banks — Episode 212 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Tamal Bandyopadhyay). 12. Rukmini Sees India's Multitudes — Episode 261 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Rukmini S). 13. On Bullshit — Harry Frankfurt. 14. The Facts Do Not Matter — Amit Varma. 15. Facts Don't Matter. Stories do -- Amit Varma. 16. It is immoral to have children. Here's why -- Amit Varma. 17. Better Never to Have Been -- David Benator. 18. Wanting — Luke Burgis. 19. René Girard on Amazon and Wikipedia. 20. The Life and Times of Shanta Gokhale — Episode 311 of The Seen and the Unseen. 21. The Gentle Wisdom of Pratap Bhanu Mehta — Episode 300 of The Seen and the Unseen. 22. Beyond Words: Philosophy, Fiction, and the Unsayable -- Timothy Cleveland. 23. Consider the Hamiltonian. 24. The Life and Times of Jerry Pinto — Episode 314 of The Seen and the Unseen. 25. Murder in Mahim — Jerry Pinto. 26. Mallikarjun Mansur and Bhimsen Joshi on Spotify. 26. Paul Krugman on the internet in 1998. 27. The naked man with an egg -- Amit Varma's prompt and ChatGPT's reply. 28. The Liberal Nationalism of Nitin Pai -- Episode 318 of The Seen and the Unseen. 29. The Rooted Cosmopolitanism of Sugata Srinivasaraju — Episode 277 of The Seen and the Unseen. 30. Adam Gopnik, Michel Martin, Paul Harding and Timothy Gowers. 31. Tinkers -- Paul Harding. 32. Eraserhead -- David Lynch. 33. There's a Name for the Blah You're Feeling: It's Called Languishing -- Adam Grant. 34. The variants on Chess.com. 35. A Summons to Memphis -- Peter Taylor. 36. Virtue Ethics on Wikipedia, Britannica and Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. 37. VP Menon: The Unsung Architect of Modern India — Narayani Basu. 38. India's Greatest Civil Servant — Episode 167 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Narayani Basu). 39. A Venture Capitalist Looks at the World — Episode 213 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Sajith Pai). 40. The Indus Valley Playbook — Sajith Pai. 41. Fixing Indian Education — Episode 185 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Karthik Muralidharan). 42. Understanding Indian Healthcare — Episode 225 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Karthik Muralidharan). 43. Karthik Muralidharan Examines the Indian State — Episode 290 of The Seen and the Unseen. 44.  Our Unlucky Children (2008) — Amit Varma. 45.  Fund Schooling, Not Schools (2007) — Amit Varma. 46. Elite Imitation in Public Policy — Episode 180 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Shruti Rajagopalan and Alex Tabarrok). 47. Centrally Sponsored Government Schemes — Episode 17 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Pranay Kotasthane). 48. Population Is Not a Problem, but Our Greatest Strength — Amit Varma. 49. Arrow's Impossibility Theorem. 50. Athenian Democracy and Socrates. 51. Plato (or Why Philosophy Matters) -- Episode 109 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Rebecca Goldstein). 52. Our Parliament and Our Democracy — Episode 253 of The Seen and the Unseen (w MR Madhavan). 53. The Anti-Defection Law — Episode 13 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Barun Mitra).. 54. Urban Governance in India — Episode 31 of The Seen and the Unseen (w Shruti Rajagopalan). 55. Gopal Krishna Gokhale, Mahadev Govind Ranade and Gopal Ganesh Agarkar. 56. Episodes of The Seen and the Unseen on the creator ecosystem with Roshan Abbas, Varun Duggirala, Neelesh Misra, Snehal Pradhan, Chuck Gopal, Nishant Jain, Deepak Shenoy, Abhijit Bhaduri and Gaurav Chintamani. 57. The Walk -- Robert Walser. 58. So Long, See You Tomorrow -- William Maxwell. 59. All Aunt Hagar's Children -- Edward P Jones. 60. The Known World -- Edward P Jones. 61. Slow Man -- JM Coetzee. 62. The Changeling -- Kenzaburo Oe. 63. Earthlings -- Sayaka Murata. 64. Birth of a Theorem -- Cedric Villani. 65. Gilead -- Marilynne Robinson. 66. If I Survive You -- Jonathan Escoffery. 67. Donnie Darko -- Richard Kelly. Check out Amit's online course, The Art of Clear Writing. And subscribe to The India Uncut Newsletter. It's free! Episode art: ‘Conflict' by Simahina.

David M. Pritchard, Associate Professor of Greek History at the University of Queensland and author of Athenian Democracy at War, joins the show to discuss how and why ancient Athens fought its wars. ▪️ Times  • 01:41 Introduction • 02:3 Martial culture in Athens • 05:08 Democracy and victory • 11:42 Innovation and participation • 15:38 Joining up in ancient Athens • 19:10 Broad support for war • 24:43 Military morality  • 30:49 Control of the battlefield is victory • 38:28 Democracy and war today

It's the HistoryExtra podcast's 15th birthday, and to celebrate, we've asked 15 historians to nominate a figure from history they think deserves their ‘15 minutes of fame'. In this episode, Professor Michael Scott nominates Kleisthenes. He tells Kev Lochun about how this sixth-century BC aristocrat came to be regarded as the father of Athenian democracy. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A Patron of Economic Update asks: "I noticed that in the Merriam-Webster dictionary result on Google Search for the word Marxism it listed antonyms as democracy, self-governance, self-government, self-rule. This seems very off and yet it comes from such a reputable source. Marxism is not by any stretch the opposite of democracy unless it's hijacked and distorted e.g. Stalin, Mao, etc. Why is the number one dictionary on the number one search engine continuing to say Marxism is the opposite of democracy?"

Greg Jenner is joined in Ancient Greece by special guests Prof Michael Scott and comedian Alice Fraser as they examine the start of democracy with the Athenians. Aside from it obviously being a system that only benefitted men, they find out why you'd want to avoid red ropes and broken pots and why the Romans disliked the very idea of it. And they take a look at some of the fundamental issues with democracy that still exist today. You're Dead To Me is a production by The Athletic for BBC Radio 4. Research by Rosie Rich Written and produced by Emma Nagouse and Greg Jenner Assistant Producer: Emmie Rose Price-Goodfellow Project Management: Siefe Miyo and Isla Matthews Audio Producer: Abi Paterson

Did you know the ancient Athenian Democracy was a pure democracy in that citizens directly voted rather than through representatives?  However, only a few people, around 10,000, earned the title of “citizen.”  The Founders of our country studied this and recognized the perils of the Athenian Democracy and other past regimes and democracies.  By studying history, they navigated these pitfalls in establishing our country as a republic.  Join our student panel and special guest, Dr. Christoper Burkett with Ashland University as we explore the three major problems in the Athenian Democracy and how the Founding Fathers structured solutions in our republic.  

In this episode of “Keen On”, Andrew is joined by Roslyn Fuller, the author of “In Defence of Democracy”. Roslyn Fuller is the world's leading authority on infusing the ancient ideals of Athenian Democracy with the participatory potential of modern information technology. Roslyn's experience as a lecturer, author, and political consultant has given her unique insights into structures of public governance and, above all, the mechanics of political power. Having foreseen the current assault on democracy long before Brexit and Trump were household names, her relentless defense of people power has seen her articles and interviews published in countless newspapers and magazines. Visit our website: https://lithub.com/story-type/keen-on/ Email Andrew: a.keen@me.com Watch the show live on Twitter: https://twitter.com/ajkeen Watch the show live on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ankeen/ Watch the show live on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lithub Watch the show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/LiteraryHub/videos Subscribe to Andrew's newsletter: https://andrew2ec.substack.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Episode 9 -  Athenian Democracy, and the Golden Age of GreeceHi, my name is Clayton Mills.  Welcome to ‘A Short Walk through our Long History' - a podcast where we look at the events of history, and try to see how those events shaped our modern world. This is Episode 9 - Athenian Democracy, and the Golden Age of Greece.We have talked about the famous battles of the Greek - Persian wars, and how after the huge naval battle at Salamis, the Persians never threatened Greece again.  The Battle of Salamis happened on September 27th, 480 BC.  There were still a few important land battles in 479 BC, but the Greeks won those as well, and destroyed what was left of the Persian army in Greece.  This sets the stage for an era of peace and prosperity in Greece that would be incredibly influential.As points of reference, just to tie this all in with other things that were happening around this time in other parts of the world, I thought I would mention some other important world events.  So 80 years or so before Salamis, off in India, around 563 BC, Buddha was born.  Buddhism begins to form as a religion in the years following the Buddha's death.  Buddhism will eventually become one of the world's largest religions, but it had a small start, as did Christianity.  We'll come back to that in upcoming episodes.  Also about this time, the Jews who had returned from exile in Babylon were re-building their temple, under the guidance of Nehemiah and Ezra.  And also around this time, in 509 BC the Roman Republic was founded.  We'll also come back to the Romans.  Lots of important stuff going on in the 5th century BC.  By the way, I don't really like calling these time periods, ‘the 5th century,' because it just doesn't match up in a way that I like.  Because the 5th century is the 400's.  It's the time period from 499 BC to 400 BC.  And then we have that problem again in the AD's.  It's because the first century is the zeros and tens, like 49 BC.  So I prefer saying, in the 400's BC, rather than saying the 5th century.  It makes more sense to me, even though the historians all like to use ‘5th century.'  For the rest of these episodes, I'm going to stick with the actual numbers, and not use the 4th or 5th century nomenclature. So in the 400's BC, a lot of important stuff was going on.  But what was also happening was the Golden Age of Greece, which lasts from the reign of Pisistratus, a tyrant who ruled over Athens around 528 BC, until the death of Alexander the Great, in 323 BC.  So right about 200 years.  The Golden Age of Greece is also known as the Classical Period, or Classical Greece. So what made it golden?  What made it a classic?  Well, there were two ascendent cities during this time, Athens and Sparta.  They both were incredibly prosperous, and both laid claim to be the leading city in Greece.  They fought several times during this period, and we'll talk about those battles in the next episode.  But what really made this time period unique was all of the stuff going on in Athens during this time.  So the Golden Age of Greece is really a mostly Athenian thing, even though Sparta was doing very well during this time also.  But all the ‘golden' stuff came from Athens.  [here]So in this time period, just to summarize, from Athens, we have Pericles, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Aeschylus, Aristophanes, Euripides, Herodotus, Thucydides, Hippocrates, and the birth of democracy.  All of these have left lasting impacts in politics, philosophy, and literature.  And of course that's not even the full list.  There was also beautiful pottery and amazing architecture, including the Parthenon in Athens, which has been described by some as the most perfect building ever built.So what created this great period of productivity?  It was something about the nature of Athens in those days.  For one thing, Athens was peaceful and prosperous.  It takes both of those things for a city or culture to be able to create a class of people who are artists, philosophers, and historians.  In the middle of a siege from an enemy, no one is worried about writing ancient history or the next great play.  So Athens has a period of tranquility and prosperity, and some great artists, writers and thinkers have time to be creative.  We'll come back to this at the end of the episode, but there are a lot of ways that this time period influences our modern world.  Obviously, the advent of Athenian democracy, and the idea that citizens can come together to create their own government, and protect their own rights, is something that influenced the founding of the United States and other democracies around the world.Well, that brings up an issue we need to clarify, since we're talking about democracy.  Because the United States isn't technically a democracy.  It's a republic -  Well, Plato might argue that we're currently an oligarchy, putting on a show of being a republic, but more on Plato and his descriptions of government later, in another episode.  A true democracy is where all the citizens vote, or at least can vote, on every law.  A republic is where the citizens select a representative to go vote for them.  The citizens vote on who will represent them, and then the representatives actually vote on the laws.  So the United States and the United Kingdom are both types of republics, not democracies.  They have representatives that do the lawmaking and the voting.Anyway, Athens was a true democracy, where all the citizens could vote on the laws.  So how did Athens come to be a democracy, and enter into its golden age?  As most golden age stories do, the story starts with a tyrant, and people getting fed up with the tyrant's tyrannical ways.  By the way, the word tyrant, back in the days of ancient Greece, didn't mean a harsh, autocratic ruler.  It just meant someone who has taken over the role of leading the government in an illegitimate way.  The term tyrant didn't originally refer to how someone ruled; it referred to how they took power.  In 546 BC, an Athenian named Pisistratus took control of Athens.  His rule lasted for 18 years, and was actually a good period for Athens, and so the Athenians didn't put up too much of a fuss about him.  But then, his sons took over, and they were tyrants in our modern sense of the word.  The Athenians tolerated Pisistratus, because despite the way he took power, he did a good job as the leader of the city.  His sons did not, and the Athenians decided they didn't want to be ruled by someone they had not chosen.There were a couple of other rulers, but then in 510 BC, the Athenians chose Cliesthenes to be their ‘archon,' or leader.  One of the hallmarks of the Athenian system of government was that they wanted to be ruled by someone they themselves had chosen.  This idea, the concept of government by the consent of those governed, is one of the core ideas of liberty.  And within that idea, and also within the Declaration of Independence, is also the idea that if the people who are governed do NOT consent to their government, it is their right to change the government.  That's what the Athenians did.  Cliesthenes reformed a lot of Athenian practices, and rebuilt the democracy.  There was an Assembly, that any citizen could attend, which met every 10 days to debate and vote on proposals made by the Council.  The Council was made up of 500 citizens, and they would propose laws that would then be voted on by the Assembly.  There were also strategoi and archons who were elected to serve specific roles.Then in 495 BC, a very gifted leaded named Pericles becomes one of the strategoi.  He was a strategoi for 50 years, and this is the height of the golden age.  Pericles also strengthened the democracy, and presided over the rebuilding of the Acropolis (which had been badly damaged by the Persians), including the building of the Parthenon, as well as several other temples. During the time of Pericles, two of the greatest philosophers in all of human history were born.  Both Socrates and Plato were born during the time when Pericles was one of the strategoi.  Socrates was probably born around 470 BC, so his time as a productive philosopher and teacher happened in part during the time of Pericles.  Plato was one of Socrates' students, and his time as a teacher and writer took place after Pericles, but still during the Golden Age.  I'm planning on having a separate episode on Socrates, Plato, and Plato's student Aristotle, because they really are important enough, in terms of how they affected the modern world, to warrant their own episode.  I should mention here that they basically started the first permanent school of higher education, which was called the Academy.During this same time period, Aeschylus, Euripides and Sophocles were writing comedies and tragedies that are still studied today.  Their writing, along with Homer's, (and also Plato's) is considered the best writing in the Greek language.  These guys were the Greek equivalents of Shakespeare. And Shakespeare himself was influenced by some of the Greek plays.  In addition to the playwrights, we also have the first real historians of antiquity during this period.  Herodotus and Thucydides both tried to accurately record historical events, not long after they had actually happened.  Before them, much of the historical record was written by kings who had conquered someone, and had a ‘history' written to glorify their own deeds.  So accuracy was less important than glorifying the king who had commissioned the historical writing. Herodotus is known as the father of history.  Although others recorded historical events before he did, he did a much more thorough job of getting and recording the facts of events.  It is his records of Thermopylae and Salamis that are our best source for the names, dates, and flow of events of those battles.  Though both Herodotus and Thucydides wrote clearly pro-greek histories, their thoroughness and descriptiveness set the standard for all future historians.  The physician Hippocrates, of the famous Hippocratic oath, also wrote during this period, and his books on health and medicine are among the oldest records of human health and disease, and set the stage for much of the medical writing down through the ages.  On top of all this writing, there was also a great surge in architecture and sculpture.  When you think of Classical Architecture, that means ancient Athenian architecture.  I mentioned the Parthenon, which was the temple to Athena on the Acropolis, which was the hill at the top of Athens.  There were other temples up there, too, and they were also amazingly beautiful.  So we kind of had it all back in ancient Athens in these years, and other cultures throughout history have always looked back at these times and the writings and art of this period and been inspired by them.  Many of the great things about ancient Rome were lifted straight from ancient Greece, for example.  After the democracy of ancient Athens, Greece was conquered by Philip of Macedon, whose son, Alexander the Great, took Greek culture and the Greek language and spread it all around the Mediterranean and into Asia.  The Greek language became a sort of trade language of the Mediterranean, the language that everyone used for business.  It was relatively easy to write, and because the Greek alphabet is very phonetic, it was also relatively easy to learn the language.  Greek verb tenses are crazy hard to master, but basic Greek, the kind you would use for trade, was relatively easy.  But because of the writings of the Greek masters, Greek also became the language of scholarship, for many generations. This is one of the reasons that the New Testament was written in Greek, even though Jesus probably spoke in Aramaic, which was the common language of Judea during his life.  The New Testament was written to an audience beyond just the region of Judea, so because of the audience, and because Greek was the language of trade and of scholarship, the original writers of the New Testament wrote their gospels and epistles in Greek.  So the Golden Age of Greece had it all, and became a major influence on the rest of the ancient world.What other things from classical Athens affect our modern world?  Google an image of the US supreme court building.  It's a Greek temple, basically.  Greek architecture has influenced monuments and official buildings all through history.  What else affected our modern world?  Well, for starters, there's the idea of citizens taking responsibility for their own government.  The idea that the people of the city are responsible for the defense, government, and well-being of the city, and that the responsibility for setting up a form of government actually lies with the people, not the king - that's an Athenian ideal.  It's not the king or some external ruler who is responsible for the city, it's the people of the city.  And they, the people, can choose the form of government that they want.  It is more recently called ‘government by the consent of the governed.'  At the core of this is the idea that it's NOT the government who owns the city or the country, it's not the king that owns it all, it's the people who own it.  The beginning of the US constitution invokes this idea with the phrase, ‘We, the people, in order to form a more perfect union,…'. It's ‘the people' who are putting together the government, and designing a form of government that will protect them from tyrants.  That's what the Athenians were trying to do, that's what the founding fathers of the US were trying to do, that's what the lords of old Britain were trying to do with the Magna Carta, at some level. Protect their rights from a tyrant.  Behind this is the idea of personal responsibility, the idea that I am responsible for my life, my well-being, and my future - it's not the government that is responsible for that, it's not the king, it's not society, it's me.  I'm responsible.  The greeks would have called this ‘honor.'  It incorporates the idea of doing what's right, doing one's job, doing what one is supposed to do, and being responsible for one's own life.  This was definitely in the minds of the founding fathers of the US, although it seems like we've lost this a bit in recent years.  The Athenians took responsibility for protecting themselves from internal threats - that is, tyrants -  and external threats - like Persians, for example.  It's an important principle, and it's kind of odd how seldom in world history a group of people is governed by a government that they chose for themselves.   In the modern world, we kind of take for granted, but until recently, it was a rarity.  Usually, people were governed by a king, either from their own region, or one from somewhere else who had conquered them.  That has been the historical norm, not people governing themselves.  Tyranny, not self-rule, has been the norm.  One other way that Athens is still influencing the modern world is the scientific world-view that dominates the western world.  We'll talk more about this in the episode about Plato and Aristotle, but they had a huge impact on the development of science as we know it today.  Especially Aristotle.  His enormous body of work influenced both science, philosophy, logic, and religion, but again, we'll come back to him and Plato again later.  But before we get to them, we need to take a look at what basically put an end to the really golden part of the golden age of Greece, and that is the Peloponnesian wars.  Next episode, we'll look at the battles between Athens and Sparta.  Then we'll come back to Athens to focus on Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle.  Then on to Aristotle's pupil, Alexander, the Great.

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This week as we talk to classicist Dr James Kierstead about the pasts and futures of ancient Athenian democracy. The Western world likes to trade its democratic institutions to ancient Greece, but the Greek model of citizenship was very different from our own, and Athens was far from the only democracy in the Greek world. We'll be asking Dr Kierstead about the Athenian constitution, how it operated in practice in the era of high democracy, the meaning of ancient Greek citizenship, and what it meant to be ostracised in a world without refugee conventions.

In this podcast we talked about: ● The Importance Of Art ● The Lessons From The Greeks ● The Current-Day Moral Revising Of History ● Do We Still Have Democracy? ● The Decline Of Education Prof. Garland was a Roy D. and Margaret B. Wooster Professor of the Classics at Colgate University. He got my Ph.D. in Ancient History from University College London. He's studied drama, became a gardener, and taught English and drama to secondary school students and lectured at universities throughout Britain and at the British School of Archaeology in Athens. His research focuses on the social, religious, political, and cultural history of both Greece and Rome. I've 16 written books, which have been translated into many languages. He has recorded five courses for the Great Courses, including The Other Side of History: Daily Life in the Ancient World; Athenian Democracy, and The Greek World: A Study of History and Culture. He has given up academics to do art. That's why he retired a year ago.. ☟ Find out more about Prof. Garland at☟ ◼︎ All his books: https://www.amazon.com/Robert-Garland/e/B001HD1TWW/ref=dp_byline_cont_pop_book_1

In this second part of our two-part series on the origins & evolution of democracy in Classical Athens and its relationship to Athenian Citizenship, Katie & Cairo talk about the political life & legacy of Pericles in Athenian Democracy.The Perpetual Immigrant And The Limits Of Athenian Democracy by Demetra Kasimis: https://www.indiebound.org/book/9781107670464Enjoying NHM Dialogues?  Check out the other ways to engage with NHM below! NHM YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/NatlHellenicMuseumNHM Online Exhibitions: https://nhmdigitalexhibitions.omeka.net/exhibitsNHM's Online Collection: https://collections.nationalhellenicmuseum.org/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hellenicmuseum/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NationalHellenicMuseumTwitter: https://twitter.com/HellenicMuseumSupport NHM: https://www.nationalhellenicmuseum.org/support/donate/ Created by Cairo Dye & Katie KelaidisProduced & Edited by Cairo Dye 

This week on “The Learning Curve,” Gerard and Cara talk with Professor Bettany Hughes, award-winning historian, BBC broadcaster, and author of the best-selling books Helen of Troy: Goddess, Princess, Whore; The Hemlock Cup: Socrates, Athens, and the Search for the Good Life; and Venus and Aphrodite: History of a Goddess. Prof. Hughes shares insights from her most recent book about the ancient... Source

This week on “The Learning Curve,” Gerard and Cara talk with Professor Bettany Hughes, award-winning historian, BBC broadcaster, and author of the best-selling books Helen of Troy: Goddess, Princess, Whore; The Hemlock Cup: Socrates, Athens, and the Search for the Good Life; and Venus and Aphrodite: History of a Goddess. Prof. Hughes shares insights from […]

In which Phil tells the story of Cleisthenes, the Father of Athenian Democracy, Matt dodges political arguments in Italian and French (but not English), and we discuss breakdancing as an Olympic sport. You can support or become a member of History's B-Side here: https://historysbside.com/support

Emmet sits down with Frank Furedi (https://twitter.com/Furedibyte) to discuss his latest book, Democracy Under Siege: Don't Let Them Lock It Down! They discuss Athenian Democracy, the role of expertise in society, how technocrats need wokeness to make their anti-democratic aims palatable, Brexit, and so much more! Buy the book here (https://www.johnhuntpublishing.com/zer0-books/our-books/democracy-under-siege). Buy his other book, Why Borders Matter, here (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/0367416824?tag=metrica-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1). Follow us on Twitter (https://twitter.com/ex_haustpodcast). Closing Song: "Never Follow (https://nakedraygun.bandcamp.com/track/never-follow)" by Naked Raygun. Special Guest: Frank Furedi.

Pythagoras started a cult and convinced an entire city to abandon all of their belongings to follow him and discuss math and philosophy. This did not end well. Meanwhile, trouble was brewing in Athens.The History of Modern Greece covers the events of the Greek People from the fall of Constantinople in 1453 to the Greek War of Independence in 1821-1832, all the way through to the Greco-Turkish War from 1919 to 1922.Website: www.moderngreecepodcast.comMusic by Mark Jungerman: www.marcjungermann.com

Produced by Michael DrittoWritten by Claire Malkie and Michael DrittoTheme Music by Terrance JacksonTransition Music by Kristina WalterHeadline Music by SoundEffectsFactory on YoutubeJoke submissions by Connor Morehouse Theatre in the Dark's A War of the Worlds:  https://www.theatreinthedark.com/REFERENCES AND RESOURCESACLU. (2014, May 1). Ohio Complaint. Retrieved August 30, 2020, from https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/assets/ohio_complaint.pdfACLU. (2020). Know Your Rights | Voter Intimidation. Retrieved August 30, 2020, from https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_pdf_file/kyr-voterintimidation-v03.pdfACLU. (2020). Voting Rights. Retrieved August 31, 2020, from https://www.aclu.org/issues/voting-rights?redirect=voting-rightsACLU. (2020, February 3). Block the Vote: Voter Suppression in 2020. Retrieved August 31, 2020, from https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/block-the-vote-voter-suppression-in-2020/Anthony, S. B. (2017, February 15). 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"Athenian Democracy and the Socratic method of communication" A very insightful interview with Nicholas Gruen, Lateral Economics talk to us in depth about the fundamentals of Athenian Democracy and how this approach to decision making could make such a big difference to our society today. Christopher Gribbin, Public speaker, ancient Greek and Roman historian, summer school teacher and co-ordinator, tour leader, researcher and writer taking us through the fundamentals of the Socratic Method of communication.

About the Lecture: “Our democracy is getting self-destroyed, for it abused the rights of freedom and of equality; for it taught the citizens to regard insolence as a right, illegality as freedom, impertinence as equality, and anarchy as happiness.” (Isocrates, 436-338 BC). Democracy first emerged in ancient Athens in 507 BC following a long turbulent period of aristocracy and tyranny, when a nexus of intertwined geopolitical, sociopolitical, economic, and cultural developments led to the morphogenesis of this new political constitution. Athenian Democracy formulated the political ideology and fundamental principles that were later canonized by modern democracies, formalized defensive mechanisms against undue concentration of power and employed innovative integrative mechanisms to propagate its ideology and educate the citizens. Pathogenic traits-catalysts, however, such as the extreme polarization between mass and elite, demagogy, populism, failure of justice, apathy, and poor education caused extensive political ankylosis. Internal corrosion and changing historical conditions caused the decline and fall of Democracy three centuries later. Isocrates' aphorism, therefore, rings alarmingly all too pragmatic and relevant today, 250 years since the resurgence of Democracy in the modern world (USA, France, Greece). Are we running a similar cycle, repeating old mistakes, standing at the same juncture, heading towards the same dead end? To navigate forward, find solutions, and shape our future, we need first to study our past. About the Speaker: Born in Greece, Christofilis Maggidis received a thorough education in the Classical Lyceum at the Anavryta Model School and went on to receive a B.A. in History and Archaeology (1988) from the University of Athens, where he was awarded several honorary distinctions and scholarships for excellence. He further pursued his graduate studies while on prestigious fellowships (Fulbright, William Penn, and Charles Williams Fellowships) and received his Ph.D. in Classical Archaeology (1994) from the University of Pennsylvania. He completed postdoctoral studies as a Fellow at Brown University (1997-1999) and a White-Levy Research Fellow at Harvard University (1999-2001). Christofilis has taught archaeology, ancient history, classics, and philosophy at Campus College and the University of Indianapolis, Athens. In 2001, Christofilis joined Dickinson College as the Christopher Roberts Professor of Archaeology in the Department of Archaeology, where he has been teaching courses in the art, architecture, and archaeology of the prehistoric Aegean, classical Greece, republican/imperial Rome, Egypt, the Near East (Mesopotamia and Anatolia), in ancient Greek religion and athletics, Athenian democracy, ancient burial customs, and ancient technology. Christofilis Maggidis is an active field archaeologist with long field experience since 1985 as a trench master and sector supervisor at major archaeological; he has served as Field Director of the Lower Town Excavation at Mycenae, Co-Director of the Mycenaean Spercheios-valley Archaeological Project, and Director of the Archaeogeophysical Survey of the Citadel of Glas. He was elected member of the Athens Archaeological Society in 1999 and President of the Mycenaean Foundation in 2013. His main research interests focus on Aegean Prehistory, but also include Classical Sculpture and Architecture, Archaeological Methodology and Interpretation. Christofilis has given 38 invited lectures and presented another 40 international conference papers worldwide. His publications comprise 23 articles, numerous excavation reports, and four forthcoming books: The Lower Town of Mycenae I: Archaeogeophysical Survey 2003-2013; The Lower Town of Mycenae II: Archaeological Excavations 2007-2013; The Palatial Workshops of Mycenae: The Artisans' Workshops and the House of; Mycenae Excavations: Building K.

After the collapse of the Athenian Democracy, innovation moves north. In the state of Macedon, King Philip grows in power and innovates his military. He has a son whose name is Alexander and he is a genius. In a remarkably short amount of time, Alexander becomes King of Greece and invades Persia and becomes the Goat and first king of Daniel Chapter 8. Daniel 8:2-21

Demetra Kasimis's new book, The Perpetual Immigrant and the Limits of Athenian Democracy (Cambridge University Press, 2018) interrogates the role and unstable place of the metics (metoikoi) in Athenian society. The book focuses on three different presentations and discussions of the metics, in Euripides' Ion, in Plato's Republic, and in Demosthenes' Against Euboulides. The metic, as Kasimis explores, is a classification of individuals within Athenian democracy for those who do not have Athenian blood—they are neither insiders nor outsiders. This whole class of people, who were free and enjoyed certain rights within the society, were, nonetheless, in a kind of liminal space, on the border between citizenship and those excluded from citizenship, like slaves, children, and others. The Perpetual Immigrant, which is the kind of position that metics found themselves in, since neither they nor their offspring could become citizens, exposes the “fraught and shifting meaning of the democratic citizen itself.” Kasimis deep research and theorizing about the metics, as discussed in these three classical texts, is not limited to ancient Athens, and the questions she considers are as important to pose to contemporary democracies as they were to Athenian democracy. Her work here, in this Cambridge University Press series, "Classics After Antiquity," is vital in a number of ways, since the arguments are not only about the substance of the text, but also about how and why we read texts. Thus, we learn a great deal from The Perpetual Immigrant in terms of the substance of classical texts, and our understanding who is or is not a citizen within a democracy, and how that contributes to the way that the democracy understands itself and those who live within it. We are also to consider, as readers and scholars, the way in which we read and why we read certain texts, what we hope to learn from them, and what makes them important to consider. This podcast was hosted by Lilly Goren, Professor of Political Science and Global Studies at Carroll University in Waukesha, WI. You can follow her on Twitter @gorenlj Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Demetra Kasimis's new book, The Perpetual Immigrant and the Limits of Athenian Democracy (Cambridge University Press, 2018) interrogates the role and unstable place of the metics (metoikoi) in Athenian society. The book focuses on three different presentations and discussions of the metics, in Euripides' Ion, in Plato's Republic, and in Demosthenes' Against Euboulides. The metic, as Kasimis explores, is a classification of individuals within Athenian democracy for those who do not have Athenian blood—they are neither insiders nor outsiders. This whole class of people, who were free and enjoyed certain rights within the society, were, nonetheless, in a kind of liminal space, on the border between citizenship and those excluded from citizenship, like slaves, children, and others. The Perpetual Immigrant, which is the kind of position that metics found themselves in, since neither they nor their offspring could become citizens, exposes the “fraught and shifting meaning of the democratic citizen itself.” Kasimis deep research and theorizing about the metics, as discussed in these three classical texts, is not limited to ancient Athens, and the questions she considers are as important to pose to contemporary democracies as they were to Athenian democracy. Her work here, in this Cambridge University Press series, "Classics After Antiquity," is vital in a number of ways, since the arguments are not only about the substance of the text, but also about how and why we read texts. Thus, we learn a great deal from The Perpetual Immigrant in terms of the substance of classical texts, and our understanding who is or is not a citizen within a democracy, and how that contributes to the way that the democracy understands itself and those who live within it. We are also to consider, as readers and scholars, the way in which we read and why we read certain texts, what we hope to learn from them, and what makes them important to consider. This podcast was hosted by Lilly Goren, Professor of Political Science and Global Studies at Carroll University in Waukesha, WI. You can follow her on Twitter @gorenlj

Demetra Kasimis’s new book, The Perpetual Immigrant and the Limits of Athenian Democracy (Cambridge University Press, 2018) interrogates the role and unstable place of the metics (metoikoi) in Athenian society.  The book focuses on three different presentations and discussions of the metics, in Euripides’ Ion, in Plato’s Republic, and in Demosthenes’ Against Euboulides. The metic, as Kasimis explores, is a classification of individuals within Athenian democracy for those who do not have Athenian blood—they are neither insiders nor outsiders. This whole class of people, who were free and enjoyed certain rights within the society, were, nonetheless, in a kind of liminal space, on the border between citizenship and those excluded from citizenship, like slaves, children, and others.  The Perpetual Immigrant, which is the kind of position that metics found themselves in, since neither they nor their offspring could become citizens, exposes the “fraught and shifting meaning of the democratic citizen itself.” Kasimis deep research and theorizing about the metics, as discussed in these three classical texts, is not limited to ancient Athens, and the questions she considers are as important to pose to contemporary democracies as they were to Athenian democracy. Her work here, in this Cambridge University Press series, "Classics After Antiquity," is vital in a number of ways, since the arguments are not only about the substance of the text, but also about how and why we read texts. Thus, we learn a great deal from The Perpetual Immigrant in terms of the substance of classical texts, and our understanding who is or is not a citizen within a democracy, and how that contributes to the way that the democracy understands itself and those who live within it. We are also to consider, as readers and scholars, the way in which we read and why we read certain texts, what we hope to learn from them, and what makes them important to consider. This podcast was hosted by Lilly Goren, Professor of Political Science and Global Studies at Carroll University in Waukesha, WI. You can follow her on Twitter @gorenlj Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Demetra Kasimis’s new book, The Perpetual Immigrant and the Limits of Athenian Democracy (Cambridge University Press, 2018) interrogates the role and unstable place of the metics (metoikoi) in Athenian society.  The book focuses on three different presentations and discussions of the metics, in Euripides’ Ion, in Plato’s Republic, and in Demosthenes’ Against Euboulides. The metic, as Kasimis explores, is a classification of individuals within Athenian democracy for those who do not have Athenian blood—they are neither insiders nor outsiders. This whole class of people, who were free and enjoyed certain rights within the society, were, nonetheless, in a kind of liminal space, on the border between citizenship and those excluded from citizenship, like slaves, children, and others.  The Perpetual Immigrant, which is the kind of position that metics found themselves in, since neither they nor their offspring could become citizens, exposes the “fraught and shifting meaning of the democratic citizen itself.” Kasimis deep research and theorizing about the metics, as discussed in these three classical texts, is not limited to ancient Athens, and the questions she considers are as important to pose to contemporary democracies as they were to Athenian democracy. Her work here, in this Cambridge University Press series, "Classics After Antiquity," is vital in a number of ways, since the arguments are not only about the substance of the text, but also about how and why we read texts. Thus, we learn a great deal from The Perpetual Immigrant in terms of the substance of classical texts, and our understanding who is or is not a citizen within a democracy, and how that contributes to the way that the democracy understands itself and those who live within it. We are also to consider, as readers and scholars, the way in which we read and why we read certain texts, what we hope to learn from them, and what makes them important to consider. This podcast was hosted by Lilly Goren, Professor of Political Science and Global Studies at Carroll University in Waukesha, WI. You can follow her on Twitter @gorenlj Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Demetra Kasimis’s new book, The Perpetual Immigrant and the Limits of Athenian Democracy (Cambridge University Press, 2018) interrogates the role and unstable place of the metics (metoikoi) in Athenian society.  The book focuses on three different presentations and discussions of the metics, in Euripides’ Ion, in Plato’s Republic, and in Demosthenes’ Against Euboulides. The metic, as Kasimis explores, is a classification of individuals within Athenian democracy for those who do not have Athenian blood—they are neither insiders nor outsiders. This whole class of people, who were free and enjoyed certain rights within the society, were, nonetheless, in a kind of liminal space, on the border between citizenship and those excluded from citizenship, like slaves, children, and others.  The Perpetual Immigrant, which is the kind of position that metics found themselves in, since neither they nor their offspring could become citizens, exposes the “fraught and shifting meaning of the democratic citizen itself.” Kasimis deep research and theorizing about the metics, as discussed in these three classical texts, is not limited to ancient Athens, and the questions she considers are as important to pose to contemporary democracies as they were to Athenian democracy. Her work here, in this Cambridge University Press series, "Classics After Antiquity," is vital in a number of ways, since the arguments are not only about the substance of the text, but also about how and why we read texts. Thus, we learn a great deal from The Perpetual Immigrant in terms of the substance of classical texts, and our understanding who is or is not a citizen within a democracy, and how that contributes to the way that the democracy understands itself and those who live within it. We are also to consider, as readers and scholars, the way in which we read and why we read certain texts, what we hope to learn from them, and what makes them important to consider. This podcast was hosted by Lilly Goren, Professor of Political Science and Global Studies at Carroll University in Waukesha, WI. You can follow her on Twitter @gorenlj Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Demetra Kasimis’s new book, The Perpetual Immigrant and the Limits of Athenian Democracy (Cambridge University Press, 2018) interrogates the role and unstable place of the metics (metoikoi) in Athenian society.  The book focuses on three different presentations and discussions of the metics, in Euripides’ Ion, in Plato’s Republic, and in Demosthenes’ Against Euboulides. The metic, as Kasimis explores, is a classification of individuals within Athenian democracy for those who do not have Athenian blood—they are neither insiders nor outsiders. This whole class of people, who were free and enjoyed certain rights within the society, were, nonetheless, in a kind of liminal space, on the border between citizenship and those excluded from citizenship, like slaves, children, and others.  The Perpetual Immigrant, which is the kind of position that metics found themselves in, since neither they nor their offspring could become citizens, exposes the “fraught and shifting meaning of the democratic citizen itself.” Kasimis deep research and theorizing about the metics, as discussed in these three classical texts, is not limited to ancient Athens, and the questions she considers are as important to pose to contemporary democracies as they were to Athenian democracy. Her work here, in this Cambridge University Press series, "Classics After Antiquity," is vital in a number of ways, since the arguments are not only about the substance of the text, but also about how and why we read texts. Thus, we learn a great deal from The Perpetual Immigrant in terms of the substance of classical texts, and our understanding who is or is not a citizen within a democracy, and how that contributes to the way that the democracy understands itself and those who live within it. We are also to consider, as readers and scholars, the way in which we read and why we read certain texts, what we hope to learn from them, and what makes them important to consider. This podcast was hosted by Lilly Goren, Professor of Political Science and Global Studies at Carroll University in Waukesha, WI. You can follow her on Twitter @gorenlj Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Demetra Kasimis’s new book, The Perpetual Immigrant and the Limits of Athenian Democracy (Cambridge University Press, 2018) interrogates the role and unstable place of the metics (metoikoi) in Athenian society.  The book focuses on three different presentations and discussions of the metics, in Euripides’ Ion, in Plato’s Republic, and in Demosthenes’ Against Euboulides. The metic, as Kasimis explores, is a classification of individuals within Athenian democracy for those who do not have Athenian blood—they are neither insiders nor outsiders. This whole class of people, who were free and enjoyed certain rights within the society, were, nonetheless, in a kind of liminal space, on the border between citizenship and those excluded from citizenship, like slaves, children, and others.  The Perpetual Immigrant, which is the kind of position that metics found themselves in, since neither they nor their offspring could become citizens, exposes the “fraught and shifting meaning of the democratic citizen itself.” Kasimis deep research and theorizing about the metics, as discussed in these three classical texts, is not limited to ancient Athens, and the questions she considers are as important to pose to contemporary democracies as they were to Athenian democracy. Her work here, in this Cambridge University Press series, "Classics After Antiquity," is vital in a number of ways, since the arguments are not only about the substance of the text, but also about how and why we read texts. Thus, we learn a great deal from The Perpetual Immigrant in terms of the substance of classical texts, and our understanding who is or is not a citizen within a democracy, and how that contributes to the way that the democracy understands itself and those who live within it. We are also to consider, as readers and scholars, the way in which we read and why we read certain texts, what we hope to learn from them, and what makes them important to consider. This podcast was hosted by Lilly Goren, Professor of Political Science and Global Studies at Carroll University in Waukesha, WI. You can follow her on Twitter @gorenlj Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Demetra Kasimis’s new book, The Perpetual Immigrant and the Limits of Athenian Democracy (Cambridge University Press, 2018) interrogates the role and unstable place of the metics (metoikoi) in Athenian society.  The book focuses on three different presentations and discussions of the metics, in Euripides’ Ion, in Plato’s Republic, and in Demosthenes’ Against Euboulides. The metic, as Kasimis explores, is a classification of individuals within Athenian democracy for those who do not have Athenian blood—they are neither insiders nor outsiders. This whole class of people, who were free and enjoyed certain rights within the society, were, nonetheless, in a kind of liminal space, on the border between citizenship and those excluded from citizenship, like slaves, children, and others.  The Perpetual Immigrant, which is the kind of position that metics found themselves in, since neither they nor their offspring could become citizens, exposes the “fraught and shifting meaning of the democratic citizen itself.” Kasimis deep research and theorizing about the metics, as discussed in these three classical texts, is not limited to ancient Athens, and the questions she considers are as important to pose to contemporary democracies as they were to Athenian democracy. Her work here, in this Cambridge University Press series, "Classics After Antiquity," is vital in a number of ways, since the arguments are not only about the substance of the text, but also about how and why we read texts. Thus, we learn a great deal from The Perpetual Immigrant in terms of the substance of classical texts, and our understanding who is or is not a citizen within a democracy, and how that contributes to the way that the democracy understands itself and those who live within it. We are also to consider, as readers and scholars, the way in which we read and why we read certain texts, what we hope to learn from them, and what makes them important to consider. This podcast was hosted by Lilly Goren, Professor of Political Science and Global Studies at Carroll University in Waukesha, WI. You can follow her on Twitter @gorenlj Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The theatre has influenced political thought since at least the days of the Athenian Democracy. Today, the tradition of theatre as a medium to spark political debate is alive and well. Now, contemporary artists are more than ever contemplating how the theatre can not only convey their thoughts but truly reflect and engage the lived experiences of their communities.  This week, host Chris Robichaud sat down with two artists who actively straddle the worlds of theatre and social justice. Ilana M. Brownstein, director of new work at Company One, and David Valdes Greenwood, nonfiction author and playwright, join in a discussion about the role of theatre in society and a new project that is working to convey the experiences of Boston's undocumented community. Want more This Week in Dystopia? Don't forget to subscribe, follow This Week in Dystopia on Twitter: https://twitter.com/WeekinDystopia and like the show on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThisWeekinDystopia/ This podcast is brought to you by the Ash Center for Democratic Governance and Innovation at the Harvard Kennedy School.

Athenian Democracy, written by Mark Cartwright and narrated by Richard de Man: www.ancient.eu/Athenian_Democracy/ If you like our audio articles, please support us by becoming a member or donating to our non-profit company: - www.ancient.eu/membership/ - www.ancient.eu/donate/ - www.patreon.com/ahe Athens in the 5th to 4th century BCE had an extraordinary system of government: democracy. Under this system, all male citizens had equal political rights, freedom of speech, and the opportunity to participate directly in the political arena. Further, not only did citizens participate in a direct democracy whereby they themselves made the decisions by which they lived, but they also actively served in the institutions that governed them, and so they directly controlled all parts of the political process.

A conversation with Demetra Kasimis about her recent book The Perpetual Immigrant and the Limits of Athenian Democracy (Cambridge University Press).

Churchill said “Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those other forms.” Is he right? This episode begins with the rise of Athenian Democracy…and what became of it when demagogues started to arise. Other great philosophers, such as Plato, Kant, and Hamilton, weigh in on whether current American democracy is the best we can do. We examine the great variation in “democracies” today, from Russia to America to Venezuela, and discover that it is the details of democracy that make all the difference. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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Democracy has a long and varied history as a political concept. The history of democracy in ancient Athens in Greece is a fascinating subject which has enticed scholars of Politics, History and Classical Civilizations for many centuries. The concept of (some!) people participating in the process of political decision making and sharing the levers of power is one that we return to again and again. However, the democratic system in ancient Athens has some startling idiosyncrasies, differences consistencies when compared with systems across the the world today, notably the United States of America, Great Britain, France and Australia, amongst others. In this episode, our expert Conal Smith (@prohistoricman) answers a range of questions on the topic of Athenian Democracy posed by Patrick (@historychappy). For terms of use, please visit www.versushistory.com

“Of every thousand dollars spent in so-called charity today, it is probable that $950 is unwisely spent, so spent indeed as to produce the very evils which it proposes to mitigate or cure.” In this episode of Made You Think, Neil and Nat discuss The Gospel of Wealth by Andrew Carnegie. An essay written later in Carnegie’s life on his philosophy on using money, wealth (and the power that comes with it) well. While still very relevant today it goes against the idea that successful business people are bad people. It’s a model for how wealthy people should use their money for the good of the community. "The man who dies thus rich dies disgraced." We cover a wide range of topics, including: Billionaires through the ages Monopolies and antitrust laws Ways of disposing of wealth (including our Patreon page) Tangents on life expectancy, intergalactic travel and cyborg pets! Carnegie’s legacy of libraries, music halls and universities Using wealth to enrich the lives of others How to help others and effective altruism And so much more! Please enjoy, and be sure to grab a copy of The Gospel of Wealth by Andrew Carnegie You can also listen on Google Play Music, SoundCloud, YouTube, or in any other podcasting app by searching “Made You Think.” If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to check out our episode on The Psychology of Human Misjudgements by Charlie Munger to uncover your mental biases and Skin In The Game by Nassim Taleb for more on responsibility and reciprocity. Be sure to join our mailing list to find out about what books are coming up, giveaways we’re running, special events, and more. Links from the Episode Mentioned in the show Carnegie’s Wealth [01:50] Richest People in History [01:58] Monopoly & Antitrust laws [02:55] Microsoft [03:24] Google [03:33] The Giving Pledge [04:58] Robber barons [06:08] GM [06:28] Amazon [06:45] Medicare [07:08] Income Tax [07:13] Hunter-Gatherer Tribes [07:41] Feudal Societies [07:49] Invention of the Telegram [08:05] History of the Railroad [08:08] Stratification [08:18] Mæcenas [08:44] Ghana [09:21] Garden of Eden [09:29] Socialist Societies [10:01] Subsistence Farming [10:19] Internet Explorer [11:33] Bing [11:35] Safari [11:38] Yahoo [11:39] Google Ventures [12:16] Alphabet Inc [12:22] Google AdWords [12:33] Justice Department [12:42] Carnegie Steel [13:00] AT&T [13:05] Market cap [14:20] Dell [14:25] Microsoft Windows [14:28] Microsoft Office [14:30] Skype for Business [14:32] Windows Phones [14:47] Microsoft Hardware [14:49] Facebook [14:54] Apple [15:16] iPhone [15:36] iMac G3 [16:55] Instagram [17:25] WhatsApp [17:26] Facebook Messenger [17:28] Growth Machine [19:13] WordPress [19:27] AmazonBasics [20:23] FBA [20:38] Costco [21:03] Bud Light [21:21] Super Bowl Ads [21:43] Kirkland Products [21:48] Absolut [22:00] Anheuser-Busch [22:35] Strand bookstore [24:19] Forest fire analogy [24:39] Economics [25:11] Mythology [25:19] Psychology [25:33] MadeYouThink Podcast Patreon [25:36] Bitcoin [28:35] Monarchy [30:29] Denial of Death [30:39] Darwinism [31:35] Evolution [31:37] Creationism [32:30] Dictatorship [34:27] Democracies [34:32] Russian Roulette [35:16] Athenian Democracy [35:28] Gmail [35:33] Hotmail [35:37] Social Security [35:37] Skin in the Game [35:55] Ponzi Scheme [37:09] Baby Boomers [37:14] Life Expectancy [37:28] Genetic Engineering [38:22] Stem Cells [39:24] Telomeres [39:26] Mars [40:06] Carnegie Library [41:49] Carnegie Mellon University [41:52] Carnegie's Daughter [43:30] Facebook Aquila Drone [46:01] SpaceX Satellites [46:03] Amazonian tribes [46:29] MIT Courses [46:36] Stanford’s Courses [46:38] DuoLingo [47:04] Reddit [47:26] Pornhub [47:36] Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation [49:16] Gates Centre [50:01] Steve Jobs Theatre [50:21] Effective Altruism [50:31] GiveDirectly [50:45] Kiva [51:51] Heifer International [52:24] Toms Shoes [53:23] Medium [56:34] Marshmallow Test [57:13] Power Posing [57:14] Stanford Prison Experiment [57:15] Smiling To Make You Happier [57:17] Inattentional Blindness [57:25] Relativity [59:34] Flat Earth Theory [59:51] Flat Earth Subreddit [01:00:05] Climate Change [01:00:37] Twitter [01:01:17] Ice Wall Theory [01:01:49] Strong man Argument [01:02:22] Sphinx [01:02:26] Aquatic Apes [01:02:41] Polynesian Islands [01:03:36] Intergalactic Travel [01:03:52] Milky Way [01:04:04] Hawaii [01:04:38] Jupiter Moons [01:06:03] Give a Man a Fish Quote [01:08:33] Compound Effect [01:09:05] Almsgiving [01:09:21] Cannibalism [01:10:28] Gun Control [01:12:01] (podcast episode) Books mentioned The Gospel of Wealth by Andrew Carnegie Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand [00:34] Skin in the Game by Nassim Taleb [04:38] (Nat’s notes) (Neil’s notes) (Book Episode) Andrew Cargegie - A Biography by David Nassau [05:11] The Jungle by Upton Sinclair [25:33] (Nat’s notes) (book episode) Denial of Death by Ernest Becker [30:39] (Nat’s notes) (book episode) The Fat Tail by Ian Bremmer [35:14] Godel, Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstadter [43:07] (Nat’s notes) (book episode) The Beginning of Infinity by David Deutsch [59:07] (book episode) People mentioned Andrew Carnegie Rockefeller [01:58] J. P Morgan [01:59] Jeff Bezos [02:08] Mellon family [02:34] Vanderbilt family [02:38] Henry Frick [02:40] Paul Allen [3:25] Google Founders [03:33] Warren Buffett [04:56] Elon Musk [27:01] (Elon Musk episode) Socrates [27:15] Ron Paul [36:20] Bill Gates [49:10] Nassim Taleb [51:30] (Skin in the Game Episode) (Antifragile Episode) Charlie Munger [55:41] (The Psychology of Human Misjudgments Episode) Amy Cuddy [59:27] Kanye West [01:11:51] (The College Dropout Episode) Senator Stanford [01:13:03] Show Topics 00:14 – This episode has been planned since April, however other books and travel got in the way. So we pushed it on so we could record a good episode for us. Carnegie’s still here and relevant whenever we do the episode. 00:46 – Background on the book, written as an essay later in life. Covers his philosophy of wealth, based on his experience of getting more money and power as he got older. 01:25 – Historical context for the book, how the era it was written in was one of the first periods where it was possible to amass such wealth as an individual business man. 01:36 – Excess of money as a new problem to be solved. Posing the question - How do we use it well? 01:50 – Converting Carnegie’s wealth in today’s dollars and how far beyond current wealth it still is today. Comparing wealthy figures from the past like Rockefeller, Mellon, J.P Morgan and Vanderbilt with the likes of Jeff Bezos today. 02:55 – Monopoly laws, levels of wealth and disparity between the business owner and the second layer of workers within the company.  Microsoft, Google and their worth. 03:52 – Relevance of the advice Carnegie gives today. Going against the idea of super successful business people as inherently bad people. He says that people should be able to gain heights of success and then they can do good things with their wealth. 04:21 – Carnegie’s model of distributing wealth for good acts. He also followed these rules using his own money. This essay was a call to arms to voluntarily use wealth wisely. 04:56 – Warren Buffett and The Giving Pledge. Carnegie wanted to convince others but also rehabilitate his own image following strikes by his workers. Carnegie’s biography contained context to this essay. He originally saw himself as a self-made man however he realized that during the strikes at his own companies that he had lost his connection with the poor. 05:48 – He described the issues with amassing wealth as ‘the problem of his age’. First national corporations, the catalysts of the railroad creating a transformational era. 07:00 – Lack of social safety nets during Carnegie’s era which created freedom to build runaway success. Levels of wealth, tribal equality through poverty. 08:20 – He poses the question - is inequality a bad thing? Or are we all better off today? Irregularity of income is better than universal squalor. Garden of Eden concept. "The good old times, were not good old times. Neither master nor servant was as well situated then as today." 10:49 – Acceptable levels of inequality. Monopolies in technology today, Google, Yahoo, AT&T and the dismantling of corporations. Antitrust lawsuits impacting on the innovation of Microsoft. Apple, iPhones and the ‘non-corporate’ design of their devices. Breaking up Google and Facebook in smaller companies. 17:34 – Competition in business and the improvements it brings. Lowering prices caused by competition. Amazon as hyper-efficient. Removing bloat from traditional businesses. Costco and their own brand product range passing cost benefits on to the consumer. 24:04 – Revival of independent bookstores, clearing the playing field for those that can deliver true value. Competition forest-fire analogy. Podcast themes and common topics. 25:36 – Join our Patreon to get book notes, bonus audio, upcoming book info. 26:19 – Ways of administering wealth when it’s in the hands of the few. Three modes - Inheritance, Government or use it yourself. Bad impact on society when generational wealth is handed down or wasted when given to government. 31:30 – Darwinism, Evolution. Financial competence of government officials. Dictatorships vs democracies. 35:46 – Tangent. Opting out of social security, skin in the game problem. Young vs Old and who benefits most. Biological limiters for aging, extension of life expectancy. Intergalactic space travel and cyborg Pepper. 40:52 – Lump sums of money making the most difference. Small monetary gains don’t change the individual but collectively that could benefit the community. Libraries and universities as great uses for wealth. Books as a way of speaking to great people throughout history. 43:30 – Carnegie family and descendants. Priorities in wealth building. Unostentatious living followed by surplus revenues given to the community. By building wealth you are better placed to distribute it wisely. 45:29 – Modern community benefits, Internet access as equivalent to libraries. University education as accessible knowledge. Language learning simplified by technology. Impact on exposing tribes to technology. 49:10 – Bill Gates, philanthropy as a legacy. Effective altruism. Charity organizations and the second order effects of disrupting economies. 56:13 – Book on second-order effect follies. Medium blog posts, psychological fallacies. Gorilla tests and inattentional blindness. 59:51 – Flat earth theory, getting angry on the Internet. Climate change denial, ice wall theory. Strongman arguments. 01:02:26 – Sphinx, aquatic ape theory, Polynesian Islands and travel within our galaxy. Communication and sustaining life in space. 01:07:53 – Carnegie suggested that the goal of being wealthy should be to enrich the lives of others. Helping those that help themselves first. Compound effect of aiding those who are motivated to improve. Dangers of charity. "Neither the individual nor the race is improved by almsgiving those worthy of assistance except in rare cases seldom require assistance." 01:09:56 – How to help those that won’t help themselves? Tune in next week! Nat the cannibal. Kanye West episode, positive role models in society. 01:12:27 – Dying rich means dying disgraced. Wealth is like a trust fund that should be used for the betterment of society. 01:14:01 – So if you enjoyed this episode, definitely check us out on Patreon. It's a good way to use your wealth. It gets you access to discussions for these episodes, the book notes, show notes, what is coming up and any bonus material we record before or after the episode. Leave us a review on iTunes that just helps more people find the show. Tweet us, we love hearing from you guys. I'm @NatEliason and I'm @TheRealNeilS. Send book recommendations, what you think about the show, feedback. 01:17:31 – You can always also go to MadeYouThinkPodcast.com/support. We've got some show supporting sponsors there that'll give you discounts that give us a little kick back at no cost to you. We will see you all next week where we will continue some of the themes that we discussed today. Join Patreon if you want to know what that is ahead of time so you can read the book before then. Cheers everyone. See you next time. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe at https://madeyouthinkpodcast.com

After the disaster of the Sicilian Expedition, the largest defeat in the history of Athenian Democracy, the whole Mediterranean world expected Athens to fall. Refusing to surrender the Athenian assembly accepts previously unthinkable changes in order to continue to the fight against Sparta, the revolting cities across the Empire, and to keep the ever ambitious Persians in check. Amid this pressure the democracy in Athens is reexamined and some citizens desire a change, either through legal reforms or terror tactics. This episode covers approximately 413 BC – 411 BC.

The guys sit down, drink, and imagine what it's like to be a citizen in ancient Greek democracy.

In Episode 24: In The Spirit Of Athenian Democracy, the boys do their best to answer listener questions about Gallifrey's history, culture (and wildlife), pair a Doctor Who story with their favorite alcoholic beverage, go into Deadly Assassin* mode for a heated discussion of the 2014 Twelfth Doctor story Kill the Moon, and conclude the two-part […]

In Episode 24: In The Spirit Of Athenian Democracy, the boys do their best to answer listener questions about Gallifrey’s history, culture (and wildlife), pair a Doctor Who story with their favorite alcoholic beverage, go into Deadly Assassin* mode for a heated discussion of the 2014 Twelfth Doctor story Kill the Moon, and conclude the two-part […]

In this lecture, Professor Kagan continues to discuss the constitution of Athens. In particular, he explores the judicial workings of Athens. He describes in detail the effort of the Athenians to create a system of justice that would not only minimize tampering, in order to insure justice, but also maximize citizen participation. After this discussion, Professor Kagan comments on the role of women in Athens by looking at two types of sources. The picture that emerges is considerably complex and left without resolution. Finally, he comments on the role of slaves. In each of these discussions, he draws illuminating analogies to our modern society.

In this lecture, Professor Kagan describes the mechanics of the Delian League and its transformation into the Athenian empire. This transformation caused Athens to rival Sparta as an equal in power and prestige. He also argues that this process took place rather smoothly due to the good relations between Sparta and Athens. Professor Kagan argues that Cimon the Athenian generally played an important part in this development. Finally, Professor Kagan begins to describe the workings of Athenian democracy by comparing it with modern American democracy.

In this lecture, Professor Kagan continues to discuss the constitution of Athens. In particular, he explores the judicial workings of Athens. He describes in detail the effort of the Athenians to create a system of justice that would not only minimize tampering, in order to insure justice, but also maximize citizen participation. After this discussion, Professor Kagan comments on the role of women in Athens by looking at two types of sources. The picture that emerges is considerably complex and left without resolution. Finally, he comments on the role of slaves. In each of these discussions, he draws illuminating analogies to our modern society.

In this lecture, Professor Kagan describes the mechanics of the Delian League and its transformation into the Athenian empire. This transformation caused Athens to rival Sparta as an equal in power and prestige. He also argues that this process took place rather smoothly due to the good relations between Sparta and Athens. Professor Kagan argues that Cimon the Athenian generally played an important part in this development. Finally, Professor Kagan begins to describe the workings of Athenian democracy by comparing it with modern American democracy.