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Welcome back to the Dirt Diaries! I am diving into the realm of mythology slightly with this episode as we delve into the site of Mycenae.Our buddy Heinrich Schliemann dug Grave Circle A after being sued for not sharing his treasure, so we are in for a treat! We're looking in the shaft graves and in the tomb of Agamemnon himself for this episode, so you won't want to miss it!-Stay curiousWant more Dirt Diaries? Join patreon with all your history-loving friends!patreon.com/TheDirtDiariesTravel with me, my socials, and more!https://beacons.ai/dirtdiaries.tenn
Today's episode takes you into the heart of Ancient Civilization with my well-known guest Priscilla Campos from Temples of Atlantis, a guide to Atlantean and Lemurian teachings. Join us as we are connecting the dots between countries, cultures, myths & experiences shaping your spiritual expansion.Let's dive into:˗ˋˏ
fWotD Episode 2794: George E. Mylonas Welcome to Featured Wiki of the Day, your daily dose of knowledge from Wikipedia’s finest articles.The featured article for Saturday, 28 December 2024 is George E. Mylonas.George Emmanuel Mylonas (Greek: Γεώργιος Μυλωνάς, romanized: Georgios Mylonas, Greek pronunciation: [/ʝe'oɾʝios myːlo'nas/], ye-OR-yios mee-loh-NAS; December 21, [O. S. December 9] 1898 – April 15, 1988) was a Greek archaeologist of ancient Greece and of Aegean prehistory. He excavated widely, particularly at Olynthus, Eleusis and Mycenae, where he made the first archaeological study and publication of Grave Circle B, the earliest known monumentalized burials at the site.Mylonas was born in Smyrna, then part of the Ottoman Empire, and received an elite education. He enrolled in 1919 at the University of Athens to study classics, joined the Greek Army, and fought in the Greco-Turkish War of 1919–1922. He witnessed the destruction of Smyrna in September 1922, and was subsequently taken prisoner; he was recaptured after a brief escape, but was released in 1923 after bribing his captors with money sent by his American contacts.In 1924, Mylonas began working for the American School of Classical Studies at Athens, with which he retained a lifelong association. He became its first bursar the following year, and took part in excavations at Corinth, Nemea and Olynthus under its auspices. After receiving his Ph. D. from the University of Athens in 1927, he moved to Johns Hopkins University in the United States to study under David Moore Robinson, his excavation director from Olynthus. He subsequently taught at the University of Chicago. After a brief return to Greece, during which he taught at a gymnasium and made his first excavations at Eleusis, he was hired by the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign in 1931, before moving to Washington University in St. Louis in 1933, where he remained until returning permanently to Greece in 1969. There, he was prominent in the Archaeological Society of Athens and in efforts to conserve the monuments of the Acropolis of Athens.Mylonas's excavation work included the sites of Pylos, Artemision, Mekyberna, Polystylos and Aspropotamos. Along with John Papadimitriou, he was given responsibility for the excavation of Mycenae's Grave Circle B in the early 1950s, and from 1957 until 1985 excavated on the citadel of the site. His excavations helped to establish the chronological relationships between Mycenae's structures, which had been excavated piecemeal over the preceding century, and to determine the religious function of the site's Cult Center, to which he gave its name. He was awarded the Order of George I, the Royal Order of the Phoenix and the Gold Medal of the Archaeological Institute of America, of which he was the first foreign-born president. His work at Mycenae has been credited with bringing coherence to the previously scattered and sporadically published record of excavation at the site. At the same time, his belief that ancient Greek mythical traditions, particularly concerning the Trojan War and the Eleusinian Mysteries, could be verified by archaeological excavation was controversial in his day and has generally been discredited since.This recording reflects the Wikipedia text as of 00:30 UTC on Saturday, 28 December 2024.For the full current version of the article, see George E. Mylonas on Wikipedia.This podcast uses content from Wikipedia under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License.Visit our archives at wikioftheday.com and subscribe to stay updated on new episodes.Follow us on Mastodon at @wikioftheday@masto.ai.Also check out Curmudgeon's Corner, a current events podcast.Until next time, I'm neural Ruth.
Alenative History - Die Geschichte des Antiken Griechenlands
Um 1200 v.Chr. wird nicht nur das Ende der mykenischen Kultur datiert, sondern auch das anderer bronzezeitlicher Kulturen. Doch warum kollabierten ihre Systeme? Waren es die berüchtigten Seevölker? Was wissen wir über sie? Woher kamen sie? Und... waren sie wirklich der einzige Grund für den Untergang der Mykener? Quellen: Arnaud/Gonnet, Textes syriens de l'âge du Bronze récent (…), 1991 Astour, Aegean Place-Names in an Egyptian Inscription, 1966 Bartonek, Handbuch des Mykenischen, 2002 Baykal, Stürmische Zeiten, 2010 Bennet, The Geography of the Mycenaean Kingdoms, 2011 Bertemes/Bork/Meller/Risc, 1600 - Kultureller Umbruch im Schatten des Thera-Ausbruchs? (….), 2011 Budin, The Ancient Greeks (…), 2009 Castleden, The Mycenaeans, 2005 Cline, Rethinking Mycenaean International Trade with Egypt and the Near East, 2007 Ebd., Der erste Untergang der Zivilisation, 2015 Ebd., 1177 B.C. (…), 2014 Cockburn, Bronze Age saw flourishing drug trade, opium discovered in Ancient vase reaveals, 2021 Drake, The Influence of Climatic Change on the Late Bronze Age Collapse and the Greek Dark Ages, 2012 Drews, The End of the Bronze Age, 1993 Edel/Görg, Die Ortsnamenlisten im nördlichen Säulenhof des Totentempels Amenophis III, 2005 Evian, They were thr on land, others at sea…, (…) 2015 Falkenstein, Eine Katastrophen-Theorie zum Beginn der Urnenfeldkultur (….), 1997 Feuer, Mycenaean Civilization (…), 2004 Freeman, Egypt, Greece and Rome (…), 2014 Henderson Gardiner, The Kadesh inscription of Ramses II, 1960 Husemann, Das Große beben (…), 2014 Iakovidis, Gla and the Kopais in the 13th century B.C., 2001 Kaniewski/Paulissen/an Campo/weitere, Middle East coastal ecosystem response to middle-to-late Holocene abrupt climate changes, 2008 Ebd., Late second–early first millennium BC abrupt climate changes in coastal Syria and their possible significance for the history of the Eastern Mediterranean, 2010 Kelder, The Kingdom of Mycenae (…), 2010 Kilian, Ausgrabungen in Tyrins 1977, 1979 Kopanias: The Late Bronze Age Near Eastern Cylinder Seals from Thebes (Greece) and their historical implications, 2008 Lehmann, Umbrüche und Zäsuren im östlichen Mittelmeerraum und Vordereasien zur Zeit der “Seevölker”-Invasionen um und nach 1200 v.Chr. (…), 1996 Milek, Seevölker (….) in: Spektrum der Wissenschaft (…), 2016 Murray/Runnels, Greece before History (…), 2001 Noort, Die Seevölker in Palästina, 1994 Nur/Cline, Poseidon's Horses (…), 2000 Peruzzi, Mycenaeans in Early Latium, 1980 Ridgway, The First Western Greeks, 1992 Scarre, The Seventy Wonders of the Ancient World (…), 1999 Schofield, The Mycenaens, 2007 Silberman/Gitin/Mazar/Stern (Hrsg.): The Sea Peoples, the Victorians, and Us, 1998 Sommer, Der 21.Januar 1192 v.Chr.: Der Untergang Ugarits?, 2015 Sternberg-el Hotabi, Der Kampf der Seevölker gegen Pharaoh Ramses III (…), 2012 Tartaron, Maritime Networks in the Mycenaean World, 2013 Vianello, Late Bronze Age Mycenaean and Italic Products (….), 2005 Woudhuizen, The Ethnicity of the sea people (…), 2006 Yasur-Landau, The Philistines and Aegean Migration at the End of the Late Bronze Age, 2014 Zangger, Naturkatastrophen in der ägäischen Bronzezeit (…), 1996 Freising, Sechs durchbohrte Bernsteinstücke in Bayerische Vorgeschichtsblätter, 1999 CBS, Ancient Druf Trade Unearthed, 2002 (2024) Boston University - The Historical Society University of York, Traces of opiates found in Cypriot vessel, 2018 (2024) Universität Köln Pressemitteilung: https://web.archive.org/web/20180714193158/https://www.portal.uni-koeln.de/9015.html?&tx_news_pi1[news]=4871&tx_news_pi1[controller]=News&tx_news_pi1[action]=detail&cHash=4ec8fe1cf3d8b095a07f3559ce486982 Ethnicity of Sea People: https://repub.eur.nl/pub/7686 Unesco : https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/941 Music by Pixabay (ArizonaGuide)
Mycenae is the ancient archeological site near Mykines in Argolis, Greece. It's a fascinating place to visit when you learn about its connection to the ancient Greek history. 16th century BC to be exact. It's a place of one of the oldest known cultures in the world- the Mycenaeans. They wrote in Linear B text, […]
Overlooking the Argolid Plain in the eastern Peloponnese, Mycenae was once the envy of the Mediterranean world. It rose to prominence in the late Bronze Age, centuries before the great Greek states of Athens, Sparta and Corinth, and is known as the birthplace of mythical bronze age figures such as Agammemnon, King of the Greeks. But how do know so much about it? What remains of this once glittering Greek citadel?In today's episode of The Ancients Tristan Hughes is joined by Dr Jorrit Kelder to talk through Mycenae's archeology - from its Cyclopaean stone walls and monumental tholos tombs, to it's golden face masks and great lion entrance gate.Presented by Tristan Hughes. Edited by Aidan Lonergan. The producer is Joseph Knight, the senior producer is Anne-Marie Luff.The Ancients is a History Hit PodcastThe Ancients is recording our first LIVE SHOW at the London Podcast Festival on Thursday 5th September 2024! Book your tickets now to be in the audience and ask Tristan and his guest your burning questions. Tickets on sale HERE https://www.kingsplace.co.uk/whats-on/words/the-ancients/Enjoy unlimited access to award-winning original TV documentaries that are released weekly and AD-FREE podcasts. Sign up HERE for 50% off your first 3 months using code ‘ANCIENTS'. https://historyhit.com/subscriptionVote for The Ancients in the Listeners Choice category of British Podcast Awards here.
Alenative History - Die Geschichte des Antiken Griechenlands
Welche Sprache sprachen die Mykener:innen? Welche Gottheiten beteten sie an? Gab es Zeus und Hera bereits bei ihnen? Neben der Schrift, Sprache und Kultzentren treffen wir auch auf Achilles, Hektor, Theseus und Orestes...oder zumindest auf Mykener, die diese Namen trugen, aber nicht die legendenhaften Krieger und Helden aus der Mythologie waren. Normale Menschen, wie du und ich. Quellen: https://www.rug.nl/research/groningen-institute-of-archaeology/research/research-groups/corienwiersma Bartonek, Handbuch des mykenisch Griechisch, 2002 Chadwick, The Mycenaean World, 1976 Chadwick/ Ventris, 1973 Daniels / Bright, The World's Writing Systems, 1996 Driessen / Macdonal, Some Military Aspects of Aegean in the Late Fifteenth & Early Fourteenth centuries, 1984 Hagg/Wells, Opuscula Atheniesia XII, 1978 Mylonas, Mycenae and the Mycenaean Age, 1966 Ebd., Eleusis and the Eleusinian Mysteries, 1961 Nillson, Geschichte der Griechischen Religion, 1967 Nillson, 1940 S.A. James, The Thebes Tablets and the Fq series (…), 2006 S. Deger / O. Panagl, Die Neuen Linear-B-Texte aus Theben, 2006 Musik: Akhet, The Innundation of the Nile by ArizonaGuide (Pixabay)
fWotD Episode 2626: Alan Wace Welcome to Featured Wiki of the Day, your daily dose of knowledge from Wikipedia’s finest articles.The featured article for Saturday, 13 July 2024 is Alan Wace.Alan John Bayard Wace (13 July 1879 – 9 November 1957) was an English archaeologist, who served as director of the British School at Athens (BSA) between 1914 and 1923. He excavated widely in Thessaly, Laconia and Egypt and at the Bronze Age site of Mycenae in Greece. He was also an authority on Greek textiles and a prolific collector of Greek embroidery.Educated at Shrewsbury School and Pembroke College, Cambridge, Wace initially focused his scholarly interests on Ancient Greek sculpture and modern Greek anthropology. He first attended the BSA in 1902, before moving to the British School at Rome (BSR). While a member of the BSR, he participated in the BSA's excavations at Sparta and in the region of Laconia in southern Greece. Between 1907 and 1912, he surveyed widely in the northern Greek region of Thessaly, before taking a post at the Scottish University of St Andrews in 1912. In 1914, Wace returned to the BSA as its director, though his archaeological work was soon interrupted by the outbreak of the First World War. During the war, he worked for the British intelligence services and excavated with his long-term collaborator Carl Blegen at the prehistoric site of Korakou. This project generated Wace and Blegen's theory of the long-term continuity of mainland Greek ("Helladic") culture, which contradicted the established scholarly view that Minoan Crete had been the dominant culture of the Aegean Bronze Age, and became known as the "Helladic Heresy". Wace excavated at Mycenae in the early 1920s, and established a chronological schema for the site's tholos tombs which largely proved the "Helladic Heresy" correct. Wace lost his position at the BSA in 1923, and spent ten years as a curator of textiles at the Victoria and Albert Museum in London. In 1934, he returned to Cambridge as the Laurence Professor of Classical Archaeology, and resumed his covert work during the Second World War, serving as a section head for the British intelligence agency MI6 in Athens, Alexandria and Cairo. He retired from Cambridge in 1944 and was appointed to a post at Alexandria's Farouk I University. During his tenure there, he continued to excavate at Mycenae and unsuccessfully attempted to locate the tomb of Alexander the Great. He was sacked after the 1952 Egyptian Revolution, but continued to excavate, publish and study until his death in 1957. His daughter, Lisa French, accompanied him on several campaigns at Mycenae and later directed excavations there.This recording reflects the Wikipedia text as of 00:30 UTC on Saturday, 13 July 2024.For the full current version of the article, see Alan Wace on Wikipedia.This podcast uses content from Wikipedia under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License.Visit our archives at wikioftheday.com and subscribe to stay updated on new episodes.Follow us on Mastodon at @wikioftheday@masto.ai.Also check out Curmudgeon's Corner, a current events podcast.Until next time, I'm generative Matthew.
The grapevine happens upon a culture that takes its love for wine to the next level, becoming the conveyer of wine to the world beyond the Mediterranean. Greece's beginnings begin with wine. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Welcome to the Instant Trivia podcast episode 1222, where we ask the best trivia on the Internet. Round 1. Category: Water Music 1: This song by Otis Redding mentions "the Frisco Bay" and "Watchin' the tide roll away". "(Sittin' On) The Dock Of The Bay". 2: Ike and Tina Turner were "rollin' on the river" with this song. "Proud Mary". 3: In 2016 this British woman had a hit with "Water Under The Bridge". Adele. 4: Carly Simon wrote "Let The River Run" for this film starring Melanie Griffith and Harrison Ford. Working Girl. 5: Joe Jonas of this 4-letter group described "Cake By The Ocean" as a party anthem. DNCE. Round 2. Category: Hill Of Beans 1: In a 1910 toast J.C. Bossidy called this city "The home of the bean and the cod". Boston. 2: Using the old bean, Old Bean, mean you're using this, Old Chap. your brain (your head). 3: Of navy, green or pinto, the bean not named for its looks. navy. 4: It's what Jack traded for those magic beans. a cow. 5: This word comes from Mandarin Chinese for bean and curdled. tofu. Round 3. Category: Short Story Fill-In 1: Twain:"The blank Jumping Frog of Calaveras County". Celebrated. 2: Ambrose Bierce:"An Occurrence at blank Creek Bridge". Owl. 3: Annie Proulx:"blank Mountain". Brokeback. 4: Faulkner:"A Rose for blank". Emily. 5: Flannery O'Connor:"A Good Man Is blank blank blank". Hard to Find. Round 4. Category: My Baby. With My in quotes 1: "My doctor said" to take this liquid antacid from Johnson and Johnson. Mylanta. 2: It's the real first name of "60 Minutes" reporter Mike Wallace. Myron. 3: It's a trade name for biaxially oriented polyethylene terephthalate. Mylar. 4: This white fatty material insulates brain nerves in sheaths and enables enhanced transmission of impulses. myelin. 5: Agamemnon was from this region that was an important center in ancient Greece. Mycenae. Round 5. Category: Army AntS. With Ant in quotes 1: This branch of the U.S. Army is its principal land combat force. infantry. 2: AAA is this type of artillery used to defend against attack from above. anti-aircraft. 3: A 3-star general is also known as this type and somewhat surprisingly, outranks a major one. lieutenant (lieutenant general). 4: The Army of the Potomac turned back the Army of Northern Virginia at this famously bloody 1862 battle. Antietam. 5: In the U.S. Army, a WO1 is this type of officer, the army's tactical and technical experts. a warrant officer. Thanks for listening! Come back tomorrow for more exciting trivia!Special thanks to https://blog.feedspot.com/trivia_podcasts/ AI Voices used
In 1870 the German archaeologist Heinrich Schliemann - a man of remarkable energy, desperately fascinated with Helen of Troy - discovered in Turkey the burnt remains of what he claimed to be the legendary city of Troy, and with it, a horde of gold and treasure which he attributed to Helen. Following this breakthrough, he went in search of another, more obscure prize: Mycenae, one of the most powerful city-states in ancient Greece, and the dominion of Agamemnon, husband of Helen's sister, Clytemnestra. A man whose family was dogged by incest, dark curses, vengeance and cannibalism, Agamemnon mercilessly sacrificed his daughter on the eve of the Trojan Wars. But this would unleash a terrible vengeance from Clytemnestra, and set in motion one of the great stories of Greek tragedy… Join Tom and Dominic as they unveil the life of Clytemnestra, one of the most potent and blood-soaked women in Greek mythology, and tell the story of an amateur archaeologist's hunt for her and Helen. EXCLUSIVE NordVPN Deal ➼ https://nordvpn.com/restishistory Try it risk-free now with a 30-day money-back guarantee! *The Rest Is History LIVE in 2024* Tom and Dominic are back onstage this summer, at Hampton Court Palace in London! Buy your tickets here: therestishistory.com Twitter: @TheRestHistory @holland_tom @dcsandbrook Producer: Theo Young-Smith Assistant Producer: Tabby Syrett Executive Producers: Jack Davenport + Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Alenative History - Die Geschichte des Antiken Griechenlands
Durch den ältesten, europäischen Rechtsstreit, sind zwei hochgestellte Mykenerinnen in die Geschichte eingegangen. Worum es in diesen Disputen geht, erläutere ich euch - denn ebenso soll es uns als Fenster in die Vergangenheit dienen. Uns zeigen in welchen Hemisphären Frauen agierten, lebten und starben. Von hochgestellten weiblichen Individuen bis hin zu tüchtigen Arbeiterinnen, die vermutlich eher die Maße der Mykenerinnen ausmachten. Von Aufseherinnen, Ehefrauen und Plantagenbesitzerinnen - wir werden sie in dieser Folge kennenlernen und durch sie die weibliche mykenische Welt erkunden. Quellen: "Beauty in the Bronze Age - Minoan & Mycaean Fashion" in Worldhistory.org "Women in Mycenaean Greece" von Anna P. Judson in itsallgreektoanna.wordpress.com "Karpathia the Procrastinating Priestess and other stories" ebd. "DNA reveals sister power in Ancient greece" in manchester.ac.uk, 2008 "Kinship between burials from Grave Circle B at Mycenae revealed by ancient DNA typing" in sciencedirect.com (Journal of Archaeological Science), 2008 "The Women of Mycenaean Pylos and Knossos" von Judith Weingarten in brewminate.com, 2017 Bennet, Agency and Buraucracy (...), 2001 Braun, Women in Mycenaean Greece (...) Budin/Macintosh Turfa (Hrsg.), Women in Antiquity, 2016 Chadwick, Die Mykenische Welt, 1979 Ebd., Documents in Mycenaean Greek, 1973 Olsen, Women in Mycenaean Greece (...), 2014 Witton, The Priestess, Eritha, 1960
Oh Muses! The royal family of Mycenae works on their coping skills in this episode. We encounter intergenerational trauma, three-to-four murders, two attempted murders, and heists! You can listen to Greeking Out two weeks early and ad free on Wondery+! What's that? You want another book? Okay!: https://bit.ly/grkoutbk2
Alenative History - Die Geschichte des Antiken Griechenlands
In dieser Folge darf ich euch einige Mykener:innen vorstellen. Diese Individuen haben nachweislich existiert und führen uns ein in die mykenische Gesellschaft ein. Wir lernen Beamte, Landbesitzer, Arbeiter:innen, Priesterinnen sowie Sklav:innen kennen. Sie zeigen uns, dass die mykenische Gesellschaft und der Staat nicht nur klar strukturiert und gegliedert war, sondern vermutlich auch ein starkes hierarchisches Gefälle herrschte. Quellen Aprile, Crafts, Specialists, and Markets in Mycenaean Greece (…), 2013 Beckmann/Bryce/Cline, Writings from the Ancient World (…), 2012 Beckmann, The Ahhiyawa texts, 2011 Beeks, Etymological Dictionary of Greek, 2010 Best, The Language of Linear A, 2010 Bryce, The Trojans & their Neighbors, 2006 Chadwick, Mycenaean World, 1976 Cline, The Trojan War (…), 2013 Colvin, A Brief History of Ancient Greek, 2014 Deger-jalkotzy, Ancient Greece (…), 2006 Duhoux, A companion to Linear B (…), 2008 Efkleidou, Slavery & Dependent Personell in Linear B Archives of Mainland Greece, 2004 Felder, Mycenaean Citadels c. 1350–1200 BC, 2004 Ferdinand, Die Ahhijava-Urkunden (…), 1975 (Archiviert 2018) Forrer, Vorhomerische Griechen in den Keilschrifttexten von Boghazköiu, 1924 (online einlesbar) Ebd., Forschungen I/2, 1929 Grottanelli, Encyclopedia of Religion (…), 2005 Gurney, The authorship if the Tawagalawas Letter, 2002 Heinhold-Krahmer, Untersuchungen zu Piyamaradu, 1983 & 1986 Hoffer, Letters from the Hittite Kingdom, 2009 Kelder, The Kingdom of Mycenae (…), 2010 Lidell, An Intermediate Greek-English Lexicon (Perseus Project) Morris, A Tale of Two Cities, 1989 Musgrave/Neave/Prag/Musgrave/Thimme, Seven Faces from Grave Circle B at Mycenae, 1998 Palaima, The Nature of the Mycenaean wanax (…), 1995 Papadopoulos, Greek Protohistories, 2018 Raymore, Minoan Linear A & Mycenaean Linear B, 2017 (Archive) Schachermeyer, Mykene und das Hethiterreich, 1986 Schofield, Mykene (…), 2009 Shelmerdine, Mycenaean Society, 2010 Singer, Purple-Fyers in Lazpa, 2009 Tausend, Bemerkungen zur Identifikation der Ahhijaqa, 2012 Thomas, The Components of Political Identity in Mycenaean Greece, 1995 Wright, A survey of Evidence for Feasting in Mycenaean Society, 2004 Damaos in Database of Mycenaean at Oslo (University of Oslo) Wanasa & Wanax bei Palaeolexicon Mycenaean Society bei Worldhistory
Let's Talk About Myths, Baby! Greek & Roman Mythology Retold
Liv is joined by Dr Kim Shelton to dive deeper into the real world of Bronze Age Mycenae and all we've learned from what they left behind. Learn more about Dr Shelton's work here. Help keep LTAMB going by subscribing to Liv's Patreon for bonus content! CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Let's Talk About Myths, Baby! Greek & Roman Mythology Retold
Continuing on with the Bronze Age history of Greece, a look at the famed Mycenaeans, the historical origins behind the mythic heroes of Homer. Help keep LTAMB going by subscribing to Liv's Patreon for bonus content! CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing. Sources: The Landmark Thucydides edited by Robert B. Strassler, translated by Richard Crawley; The Oxford Handbook of the Bronze Age Aegean edited by Eric H. Cline; Rodney Castleden's Mycenaeans; Alkestis Papadimitriou and Elsi Spathari's Mycenae: A journey in the World of Agamemnon. Attributions and licensing information for music used in the podcast can be found here: mythsbaby.com/sources-attributions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Alenative History - Die Geschichte des Antiken Griechenlands
Die mykenische Kultur. Eine Kultur, wo wir legendäre Figuren wie Agamemnon und Achilles finden. Eine Kultur, die vielleicht die Erzählung der Ilias durch ihre eigene kriegerische Natur und Konflikt beeinflusst haben könnte? Erkunden wir das Grab eines mykenischen Kriegers wie auch Beschwerden über einen Kriegsführer, der sich mit den mächtigen Hethitern angelegt hat. In der ersten Episode über die mykenische Kultur werden wir den Aspekt ihrer Kultur betrachten, wie sie mit uns meistens bereits in Berührung gekommen sind bisher: Das Militär und Kriegsführung. Quellen: Homer, Ilias “Gla” in livius.org “Greifenkrieger” in griffinwarrior.org Beckman/ Bryce/ Cline, The Ahhiyawa Texts, (= Writing from the Ancient World), 2011 Bryce, The Kingdom of Hittites, 2005 Castleden, The Mycenaeans, 2005 Chadwick, Die Mykenische Welt, 1979 Cline, The Oxford Handbook of the Bronze Age Aegean, 2012 D'Amato/Salimbeti, Bronze Age Greek Warrior 1600-1100, 2011 Davis/Stocker, The Lord of the Gold Rings (…), 2016 Deger-Jalkotzy, Mykenische Herrschaftsformen ohne Paläste und die griechische Poleis, 1995 Eder, Überlegungen zur politischen Geographie der mykenischen Welz (…), 2009 Feuer, Mycenaean Civilization (…), 2004 Fields, Bronze Age War Chariots, 2006 Ebd., Mycenaean Citadels c. 1360–1200 BC, 2004 Grguric, The Mycenaeans c. 1650–1100, 2010 Iakovidis, Late helladic citadels on mainland Greece, 1983 Ebd., Gla and the Kopais in the 13th Century BC, 2011 Howard, Bronze Age Military Equipment, 2011 Hume/Labropoulou, 3500 year-old treasure trove unearthed from grave of Greek warrior-king, 2017 Kelder, The Kingdom of Mycenae (…), 2010 Lawler, Rare Unlooted Grave of Wealthy Warrior Uncovered in Greece, 2015 Lehmann, Die “politischen-historischen” Beziehungen der Ägäis-Welt des 15.-13.Jhs.v.Chr. (…), 1991 Mann, Militär und Kriegsführung in der Antike, 2013 Mark, Homeric Seafaring, 2005 Palaima, Mycenean Militarism from a Textual Perspective, 1999 Schofield, The Mycenaeans, 2006 Shelton, Mainland Greece, 2012 Starr, This Prehistoric “Masterpiece” Could Rewrite The History of Ancient Greek Art, 2017 Tartaron, Maritime Networks in the Mycenaean World, 2013 Wilson, Encyclopedia of Ancient Greece, 2013
This week we boldly go where no-one has gone before! That's right, we're doing a Star Trek inspired TTRPG written and designed by Lara Page Turner. She was also gracious enough to join us for the episode and run her game! Beni (he/him), playing Mycenae (he/him): TwitterConnor (he/him), playing Carl (he/him): Social LinksEric (he/they), playing Rox (they/them) Juicy Garland (she/they), playing Gork M'gork (he/him): Social Links===Intro/Outro music by Harris HellerHost, Eric Crumrine (he/they): https://twitter.com/ECrumrineThe QueerXP Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheQueerXPThe QueerXP Instagram: https://instagram.com/thequeerxpThe QueerXP BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/thequeerxp.bsky.social Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In New Kingdom Egypt (c.1500 - 1150 BCE), the pharaohs and their agents had many dealings with people of the Mediterranean. These include the ancient Cretans (the "Keftiu" or Minoans) and the Mycenaeans (the "Danae" or "Danaeans"). And from the time of Amunhotep III (c. 1400--1362 BCE), we have tentative evidence for Egyptian embassies visiting these islands. From Memphis to Mycenae, Karnak to Crete, we go in search of international relations. Compilation of previously released material. Logo image: Bull-leaper "taureadors" from an Egyptian palace, fresco fragments excavated at Tell el-Dab'a (ancient Avaris) in the Nile Delta. Image adapted from M. Bietak et al., Taureador Scenes in Tell El-Dab'a (Avaris) and Knossos (2007). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Season 9: My special guest is Alexandros Angelis who's here to discuss his book that explores mysteries from our ancient past. Get it now on Amazon.About the book:Imagine the following scene: Eric Schliemann having to get the permission of scientists, telling them that, based on Homer's descriptions, he believes he can discover the mythical Troy. Besides laughing their hearts out, do you think there would even be the slightest chance for Schliemann to have gotten their permission? And it is not just Troy, Knossos, or the Mycenae, the most major archaeological findings in the world, despite the references in the ancient texts, that was a complete surprise for the scientific establishment. If that establishment had full control, all those discoveries would never have happened. The primary purpose of this book is to present evidence supporting the theory of a relatively advanced civilization during prehistory, which was lost due to some natural catastrophe. This is mainly attempted by giving knowledge of the ancient people, which they are not justified to have had, and similarities between distant cultures that should not have existed. How advanced was that civilization? It is somewhat more advanced than Europe during the 18th century AC. Secondarily, but no less important, there are the following goals: to reveal our civilization's vast danger from cosmic impacts and help realize how much more frequent natural catastrophes are than we think. Shoot down the theories regarding Indo-Europeans & foreign invaders in Greece, proving that the Greeks have preserved knowledge from events in this area many thousand years before their time. Shows that mythology hides big doses of historical truth within itself as it describes actual events, although often distorted by the human imagination. This truth may be of great help to the work of science in the investigation of the unknown aspects of our past.•To trouble the reader on how much we differ from men of past eras, even from other human species, contrary to the common belief that we are vastly "superior".•To arouse the reader's interest in the ancient mysteries which spread like a fog over the history of the human civilization. Science, after all, accepts that large-scale catastrophes often occur while man walks the earth, so is it doubtful that human society has had a setback at least once in the past?On the contrary, it is probably the usual thing. On a smaller scale than the one proposed here, there have been many setbacks in human civilization, like the domination of the Romans (when the Hellenistic Age collapsed), the collapse of the Romans themselves later on, the rise of Islam, and more. The funny part is that science accepts the Indo-European theory, meaning that an Indo-European race started traveling around the world during prehistoric times, spreading civilizations but leaving no trace behind before mysteriously disappearing. But how far is the Indo-European theory from that of a lost civilization? Not much, as one difference is the period, and the other is the geographical area (the present theory presupposes the ocean crossing). So, how reasonable is it for one theory to be officially adopted by science and the other to be out of the question? We are used to rejecting anything opposed to the established views, but during human history, all the great pioneers did precisely that: challenged the status quo.
In this video we'll journey back to the late Bronze Age and explore Mycenaean Civilization in Greece and the wider Aegean world. We'll also delve into the historical events that may have led to armed conflicts between Mycenaeans and Hittites and that may have ultimately served as the basis for Homer's great epics, the Iliad and the Odyssey. Contents:00:00 Contents and Introduction02:43 Helladic Chronology Explained03:42 Discovery of Mycenaean Culture05:35 Geography of Greece07:28 Early Mycenaeans10:58 “Mycenae, Rich in Gold”13:32 Linear B16:54 Mycenaean Society and Material Culture21:21 Mycenaean Palatial Centers and Major Kingdoms23:39 Orchomenos25:30 Gla26:00 Thebes27:00 Athens29:10 Tiryns29:49 Pylos31:15 Daily Life, Food and Economy 36:41 Importance of Bronze38:08 Warfare and Weapons40:25 Hunting and Horses41:47 Roads42:26 Religion45:28 Minoans and Maritime Trade48:07 Earthquake on Thera49:26 Mycenaeans on Crete52:22 Mycenaean Political Unity?53:31 Ahhiyawa and the Hittites55:31 Attarissiya of Ahhiya57:55 The Assuwan Confederacy 1:00:10 Piyamaradu and the Tawagalawa Letter1:05:16 Alaksandu of Wilusa (Troy)1:08:29 Ahhiyawa and Tudhaliya IV1:11:20 Are Mycenaean Greece and Ahhiyawa the Same?1:13:07 Mycenaean Trade with the World1:15:08 The Uluburun Shipwreck1:18:01 Fear and Dread1:23:15 Desperate Times, Desperate Measures1:25:53 Possible Theories for the Fall of Mycenaean Civilization1:27:24 End of an Era1:28:54 Thank You and PatronsSupport the show
Deacon Harrison Garlick and Adam Minihan jump into The Iliad Book 1.Commentary on the textBook OneThe Rage of Achilles[1]Rage—Goddess, sing of Peleus' son Achilles. Iliad (1.1) 6. What happens in the first half of book one?The rage of Achilles is both the theme of book one and of the Iliad as a whole. Achilles is the son of Peleus, King of Phthia, a legendary city-state in ancient Greece. Agamemnon, the king of Mycenae and leader of the federation of ancient Greek tribes that have come to war with Troy, holds as his slave and concubine a girl named Chryseis—a spoil of war (1.30). Her father, a priest of Apollo named Chryses, offers Agamemnon a “priceless ransom” (1.14) for his daughter. Despite the Achaeans (another name for the ancient Greeks), petitioning Agamemnon to accept the offer, he does not; thus, Apollo, moved by his priest's prayer (1.42), strikes the Achaean army with a plague, i.e., his “arrows” (1.56, 69, 78, et al.), until Agamemnon finally agrees to return the daughter of Apollo's priest and offer to the god a fitting sacrifice (1.135). However, Agamemnon finds it unfair that he, as high king, should have his “prize” taken from him while the lesser kings retain their women, their “prizes,” from war (1.158). He then demands that the concubine of Achilles, a girl named Briseis, be handed over to him (1.141, 203-221). The contention between Agamemnon and Achilles provides the catalyst for the events at the beginning of the Iliad that will shape the entire narrative.7. Why does Homer open in the middle of the narrative?Homer begins the Iliad in what is called in media res, which is Latin for “in the midst of things” or “in the middle of things.” The Achaeans have already been on the beaches of Troy for nine years when Homer opens the Iliad (1.157). Questioning Homer's rationale in opening his epic in such a fashion can provide greater insight into the purpose of the Iliad. In short, the opening may be in the middle of the Trojan War, but it is at the beginning of the narrative Homer wants to tell. It is notable Homer does not invoke the Muses to assist him in telling of the fall of Troy; rather, he invokes them to assist with the story of the rage of Achilles. The Iliad is the story of the tragedy that is Achilles.[2] The in media res opening, however, bears a distinct effect upon modern readers of the epic. As noted above (Question 2), Homer did not invent the story of the fall of Troy. As such, his ancient readers would have been already familiar with the characters and the general narrative. Homer, at times, does not mention key aspects of his narrative until quite late in the development of his story. For example, Homer does not explain why Hera and Athena have a “deathless hate” for Troy until almost the very end of the text (24.34). At other times, Homer will not mention a key aspect of the Trojan war at all. Lattimore refers to these ancillary stories as “marginal material.”[3] The existence of these ancillary stories to the Iliad are known only because later writers included them in their poems or plays. There is much debate, however, on whether Homer elected not to include these stories in his epic or such stories were a later...
Episode 245 – Archeology and the Bible – Part 1 - Affirmation Welcome to Anchored by Truth brought to you by Crystal Sea Books. In John 14:6, Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life.” The goal of Anchored by Truth is to encourage everyone to grow in the Christian faith by anchoring themselves to the secure truth found in the inspired, inerrant, and infallible word of God. Script: Goliath … wore a bronze helmet, and [a] bronze coat of mail ... He also wore bronze leg armor, and he carried a bronze javelin on his shoulder. … The shaft of his spear was … heavy and thick … His armor bearer walked ahead of him carrying a shield.” 1 Samuel, Chapter 17, verses 5 through 7, New Living Translation ******** VK: Hello and Happy New Year! I’m Victoria K. Welcome to Anchored by Truth brought to you by Crystal Sea Books. We’re excited to be with you at the start of this New Year and we pray that this year will be a year of joy and blessings to all our listeners. We pray especially that this year will see us all grow in our knowledge and adoration of our Lord Christ Jesus. Today on Anchored by Truth we’re going to start the new year with a new series. As just about everyone knows, the Christian faith in America has been subjected to more challenges in the last decade than probably in the first two centuries of the country’s existence. So, as we open up this New Year we want to revisit a subject that has particular relevance in our day and time –being able to demonstrate that the Christian faith has a firm basis in reason and evidence. RD has entitled this series “Archeology and the Bible.” So, we have RD who is an author and the founder of Crystal Sea Books, in the studio today. RD, why did you decide we need to take a special look at the topic of archeology? RD: Well, I’d also like to say Happy New Year to everyone who is joining us here today. As we begin a new year I wanted to take several episodes of Anchored by Truth focusing on archeology because it seems like in the last few years the number of times I’ve heard the Bible criticized as a book of “myth and fairy tales” has increased dramatically. This is sad but it’s also silly because it is a criticism that is so easily disproved. The Bible is a book that is set in place and time. While the Bible contains a large variety of literary genres, a large part of the Bible is the history of those places and times. As such we can validate the accuracy of the Bible’s reporting through other ancient documents that also contain reports about the same places and times. And we can also affirm much of the Bible’s reporting through the findings of archeology. VK: As Anchored by Truth listeners know at Crystal Sea Books we believe that there are two criteria that would have to be true for any book that claims to be the word of God. First, the book would have to be consistent with what we know about human and natural history. How could you trust a book that claims to be the product of a divine and infinite mind if it contains easily demonstrable errors? Second the book would have to contain evidence of supernatural inspiration. After all, humans write books all the time. And even human beings can produce books that accurately report history and contain meaningful insights about life and society. RD: Yes. There are other criteria that some people might think are appropriate when considering whether a particular book is the word of an almighty, everlasting God but we would submit that those two criteria would have to be true at a minimum. And we would urge that anyone who is trying to decide whether one book or another is God’s word should apply their minds as well as their hearts to the decision. Many people think that faith is believing in something in spite of reason and evidence, but it’s not. Becoming a Christian and embracing faith in Christ Jesus doesn’t require us to suspend the use of our minds. To the contrary, knowing and loving Jesus means we should increase our efforts to grow in knowledge as well as trust. Real faith is far more likely to arrive by placing trust in something or Someone after careful consideration of the truth claims at issue. This includes being able to explain why some truth claims are true but others false. Reason and evidence are an essential part of doing that. VK: So, just to ensure that’s clear, at Anchored by Truth we believe that any book claims to be the word of God must be consistent with what we know about human and natural history and must contain marks of supernatural inspiration. Well, we also believe that are four lines of evidence that demonstrate that the Bible meets those two criteria and is, therefore, the inspired, inerrant, and infallible word of God. First, the Bible is historically reliable. Second, the Bible displays a remarkable unity for a book that was composed by over 3 dozen human authors who wrote over a span of 1,500 years. Third, the Bible gives evidence of supernatural origin, especially through a large body of fulfilled prophecy. And the 4th line of evidence is that the Bible has resulted in an untold number of lives that have been positively changed by its transcendent message. So, what you are saying – and what we are going to be talking about during this series - is that archeology can be a useful to aid to helping affirm the historicity of the Bible. RD: Yes. For those of us who are concerned about helping people understand that the Bible is the inspired word of God archeology can have two roles. First, as we mentioned we started this discussion archeology can help demonstrate that the Bible is not, in fact, filled with myth and fairy tales. Archeology can help us demonstrate that Bible accounts of certain exploits that may seem legendary are historically accurate. VK: Why don’t you give us a quick example of what you’re thinking about? RD: Many people might think that the encounter between David and Goliath is some kind of myth and legend. VK: Because the idea of a short, teenage boy defeating a heavily armed and armored warrior with only a sling and stone does seem improbable doesn’t it? RD: It might but it’s not. And one of the reasons that we can have confidence about what the Bible says about the encounter is the large number of details that the Bible gives us about the fight. For instance, the Bible describes in great detail – as you put it – Goliath’s arms and armor. VK: And among many archeological finds that have confirmed the accuracy of the Bible’s description of Goliath’s equipment is a depiction of Philistine warriors in a temple in Egypt, right? RD: Right. Let’s start by reminding everyone that while the Bible is mostly concerned about the activity of the Philistines in their interactions with ancient Israel, the Philistines came into contact with all of the civilizations of the ancient Mideast including Egypt. The Egyptians fought the Philistines on many occasions. The Egyptians called the Philistines the “Sea Peoples” because the Philistines had come to Palestine from Mycenae which was located in modern day Greece. This means they would have arrived on the coast of Palestine by way of ships crossing the sea. VK: So, the Egyptians were very familiar with Philistine warriors like Goliath. RD: Yes. According to an article in Biblical Archeology Society website one of the most vivid depictions of the Philistine warriors is in a “mortuary temple at Medinet Habu in Thebes. The battle scenes depicted on the walls of this temple are our most precious and most graphic representation of the Sea Peoples’ dress, weaponry, chariotry, naval equipment, and battle tactics. The Philistine infantry is shown fighting in small phalanges of four men each; three men are each armed with a long, straight sword and a pair of spears, the fourth with only a sword.” Notice that the Egyptian drawings show the Philistine infantry armed with a pair of spears exactly like Goliath – although the Bible is more precise and notes that the second spear is a javelin which was used for throwing. The spear that Goliath carried in his hands was actually more like a long club. It was used for smashing and bashing … VK: Smashing and bashing … really? RD: Really. Every infantryman knows that one of the keys to victory is break through the enemy lines. And the David encounter notwithstanding, that’s what Goliath’s job was – to create holes in the enemy’s front lines that the soldiers behind him could exploit. Homer referred to such soldiers as “first men.” VK: That explains why the Bible tells us that Goliath’s spearhead weighed 15 pounds. A 15 pound piece of iron on the end of a heavy and thick spear – the Bible says it was as thick as a weaver’s beam – is to going to be good for, as you said, “smashing and bashing.” And it’s also important to note that in the Biblical description of Goliath’s armor his helmet and coat of mail are said to be made of bronze, as was his javelin. The battle between David and Goliath took place just as the Iron Age was beginning. At that time there would still have been a lot of bronze weapons and armor in use. Bronze had been in common use since about 2500 BC. Iron would later become far more common and the Philistines were very proficient at shaping and forming iron but this battle occurred before that transition was complete. And even at that time bronze was easier to form into weapons. Bronze has a much lower melting point than iron – about 1000 degrees Celsius. Iron’s melting point is closer to 1600 degrees Celsius. So, on first blush, the Bible’s description of the fight between David and Goliath might seem to be legendary but the details that the Bible provides and archeological discoveries show us that it is not. So, what is the second role that archeology plays for those who are interested in the Bible? RD: Archeology can help shed new light on the history the Bible contains and it can also help us understand the Bible text as well. We’ll get more into this as we move through the series, but one quick example of how archeological finds can improve our understanding of the Bible’s texts are clay tablets referred to as the Ugaritic texts. These came from an archeological excavation in Syria. The tablets dated over a thousand years before Jesus and contained cuneiform writing in a variety of languages. Cuneiform writing was a writing form common in ancient Mideast languages and used wedge shaped characters typically impressed into soft clay. The Ugaritic texts were helpful to Bible scholars because some of the tablets were written in an alphabetic script that recorded a northwest Semitic language that overlapped with Biblical Hebrew. The Ugaritic language shared a number of words with Biblical Hebrew so this has helped scholars better understand some words contained in the text of the Bible, especially words that occur only once in the Bible. VK: So, one important role that archeology plays is to help affirm the reliability of the Bible’s historical reports. And a second important role that archeology plays is actually to amplify our understanding of the Bible’s texts as well as increase our understanding of the times, cultures, and places recorded in the Bible This second role is true for those of us who accept the Bible as the inspired word of God as it is as for those who don’t regard the Bible as being inspired. The first role of archeology can be especially important in the Christian work of apologetics which is a defense of the Christian faith. But in this first role you say that it is important for Christians to not say things like, “archeology proves the truth of the Bible.” Why is that? RD: Yes. It is not proper to say that archeology proves the Bible is true because doing so carries the risk of both over claiming and under claiming at the same time. VK: Ok. Over claiming and under claiming at the same time would seem to be a bit of a mystery. Why is saying that “archeology proves the Bible is true” an “over claim?” RD: Archeology, like any human endeavor, has limits in the amount of certainty it can provide. Archeologists are always looking at artifacts from the past and they do their best to derive information from those artifacts. But, the archeologists were not present at the time the artifacts were created. So, their interpretation is exactly that. It’s an interpretation not a history based on first hand observation. And archeologists will differ in their interpretations and it is not at all uncommon for subsequent discoveries to necessitate revising previous opinions. None of this is to suggest that archeology is valuable and can’t be conducted with rigor. It certainly can. But archeology, while it can and does provide important support for the Bible, cannot “prove” the Bible is true. VK: That makes sense. The Miriam Webster online dictionary defines archeology as “the scientific study of material remains (such as tools, pottery, jewelry, stone walls, and monuments) of past human life and activities.” It’s important to note in that definition that archeology is concerned with “past human life and activities.” So, while we can do much to try and determine what actually happened in the past we will always fall short of absolute certainty. Why is saying that “archeology proves the Bible is true” an “under claim?” RD: Well, simply put the Bible is true because it is God’s word. It would be true regardless of whether any human being were to accept as being true or not. Now, I’m well aware that a critic would accuse me of circular reasoning in saying this. The Bible is God’s word and it is true because God is all-knowing and all-powerful. But it is the Bible that tells us that God is all-knowing and all-powerful. But that is not what I am saying. Anything that is true – that is that it corresponds to reality – is true regardless of agreement or acceptance of the truth. The man who decides he doesn’t like having cancer and rejects the doctor’s report will still have cancer regardless of whether he accepts the report. The Bible is or is not the inspired, revealed word of God regardless of whether we accept it as such. So, when we say that archeology “proves” the Bible we are, in effect, turning the truth of the Bible over to archeological judgment. Again, I’m not saying that archeology cannot be a valid and important venue for obtaining evidence that helps us understand the Bible but we don’t need archeology to establish the Bible’s truth. VK: I think I see the point you’re making. Some theologians will refer to the Bible as being self-authenticating. The Bible’s truth will pierce through all the fog and distractions of the world and the inward witness of the Holy Spirit will confirm its truth to us. Sometimes people will say, “most of the time we judge books, but the Bible is a book that judges us.” You’re not disagreeing with this position are you? RD: I’m not disagreeing with this position but I am trying to look at the question from all angles. One of the reasons I believe God will be able to hold all people accountable because He has given sufficient witness of Himself through His creation and His superintendence of history. The Bible tells us this explicitly in Psalm 19, verses 1 through 4 and in Romans, chapter 1, verse 20. God has given all humanity ample witness of His existence and attributes. Well, I believe something similar is true about the Bible. We can use reason and evidence to evaluate whether the Bible can be legitimately considered the word of God. We laid out our criteria and lines of evidence for doing so at the start of today’s episode. In considering those lines of evidence, especially whether the Bible contains reliable history, archeology can be an important source of information and support. But this role of archeology is ministerial not magisterial. If we made our opinion about whether the Bible is true based on the findings of archeology, that would make archeology magisterial not ministerial. VK: What you’re saying is that the Bible is true and was true before archeology ever entered the scientific dialogue. Like all science, when properly used and properly understood, archeology sheds important light on questions of truth. And there are literally thousands, or maybe tens of thousands of archeological findings, that confirm the accuracy of the Bible text and the history recorded in the Bible. So, saying archeology “proves the Bible is true” is an under claim because it suggests the Bible’s truth was uncertain until archeology came along. RD: Right. As we’ve said archeology can play two very important roles in our study of the Bible and that’s why we’re doing this series. Archeology can help skeptics see that the Bible is not, in fact, a book of “myth and fairy tale.” It is a book firmly set in place and time and its reports of those places and times are trustworthy. Archeology can also help us expand our understanding of the places and times of the Bible and of the people, societies, and cultures that the Bible describes. This helps us understand the Bible’s messages more clearly. VK: Regardless of how old anyone living is, the reality is that the Bible’s text was completed two thousand years before they were born. And the Bible was written in and to cultures and countries that are much different from those with which we are familiar. Archeological findings help us understand the people that the Bible was written to and about so we can get closer to standing in their shoes, seeing the sights they saw, and thereby know exactly what the Bible writers meant to communicate. RD: Yes. So, before we close, let’s go back to our David and Goliath example for just a second to amplify how archeology increases our confidence that this incident is accurate historically. One simple fact that has been confirmed by archeology is that Goliath’s home city of Gath was a real city. Gath was one of the 5 major cities of the Philistines. Its existence has been confirmed by Egyptian inscriptions. It is thought to be located at Tel Zafit (in Hebrew) which is located inside Tel Zafit National Park in modern day Israel. So, this is a finding of archeology that is consistent with the Bible. Another detail of the story that has been confirmed is the Bible’s description of Goliath’s armor. The Bible tells us that Goliath wore a coat of scale armor. The fact that Philistine warriors wore such armor coats has been confirmed by an archeological find. In 2006, bronze scale armor was discovered in a Mycenaean palace on the island of Salamis. Remember that the Philistines were thought to have originated in Mycenae. VK: This finding was especially relevant because some scholars who were critical of the Bible’s account of the fight between David and Goliath alleged that the story was just a fictional account probably made around the 6th or 7th century BC. Their assertion was that the story was concocted to make the Hebrews have a greater sense of national pride. The Hebrew pride supposedly needed a boost at that time because the Hebrews were either still captives in Babylon or had only recently returned to Israel. Part of the reason critics made that assertion was because the shirt of scale armor the Bible reports that Goliath wore was not thought to be typical of Mycenaean soldiers. Mycenaean soldiers were often armored by wide bronze bands connected by hinges. It was thought that scale armor had gone out of use before the Mycenaean heyday, around 1400 B.C.E. So, the critics alleged, that the Bible’s description of Goliath’s armor was inaccurate. But archeologists finding a coat of scale armor in a Mycenaean palace shows that their soldiers did use scale armor at least part of the time. RD: Yep. The Bible reported that Goliath wore a type of armored coat that had not been commonly associated with the Philistines. This was a detail that the Bible writer knew that would have been unknown to a writer who wrote three or four hundred years later. Writers in the 7th or 6th century would have had little to no idea how Philistine warriors had been armored in the earlier Bronze Age. So, this is another discovery from archeology that supports the Bible’s account of David and Goliath. And let’s mention just a couple of more items to complete our discussion. We now have prolific evidence that the kind of “contest between champions” was common in combat between Bronze Age armies. Single combat to determine the outcome of battles spared bloody casualties. The armies of the Bronze Age were willing to do this because wars were thought to actually be contests between the gods of the respective armies. The armies believed that each side’s god would fight on their behalf to determine the outcome that would have resulted anyway. Archeologists have unearthed texts from this time that provide numerous examples of this belief. Examples include the Egyptian account of Sinuhe, the Babylonian Epic Enuma Elish, and the famous duel between Paris and Menelaus in Homer´s Iliad. VK: And the Bible even records this detail in its account. In 1 Samuel, chapter 17, verse 43 the Bible says, “And the Philistine cursed David by his gods.” Then in verses 45 and 46 The Bible tells us that David said to the Philistine, “You come against me with sword and spear and javelin, but I come against you in the name of the Lord Almighty, the God of the armies of Israel, whom you have defied. This day the Lord will deliver you into my hands, and I’ll strike you down.” RD: Yep. So, the big idea that we wanted to introduce today is that archeological finds can be a valuable source of support for the accuracy of the history that the Bible reports. Actually, for decades the relationship between the Bible and archeology has been mutually supportive. Many scholars, including ones who weren’t Christian, used the Bible as a source document when planning or conducting their excavations. The Bible was and is widely regarded as an important source of information about ancient peoples and cultures. This symbiotic relationship was well known. The trend to dismiss the Bible’s accuracy in matters of dates and places in the Mideast has become popular among skeptics but it is completely out of sync with how the Bible was viewed among professionals. The Bible’s history has been shown to be accurate even when doubted and we’ll get more into that in later episodes in this series. VK: Well, sounds like we’re in for quite a thought-provoking journey. Hopefully, listeners will let others know about this series. It really can be a valuable resource to the skeptic and the believer alike. This sounds like a great time to pray. Today let’s listen to a prayer of praise of Adoration for the Creator God who set the cosmos into motion and established a home on the earth for His people as He prepares them for an eternity with Him in heaven. ---- PRAYER OF ADORATION FOR THE CREATOR VK: We’d like to remind our audience that a lot of our radio episodes are linked together in series of topics so if they missed any episodes or if they just want to hear one again, all of these episodes are available on your favorite podcast app. To find them just search on “Anchored by Truth by Crystal Sea Books.” If you’d like to hear more, try out crystalseabooks.com where “We’re not perfect but our Boss is!” (Bible Quotes from the New Living Translation) 1 Samuel, Chapter 17, verses 5 through 7, New Living Translation https://www.baslibrary.org/biblical-archaeology-review/8/4/1 https://patternsofevidence.com/2018/10/26/david-battles-goliath/)
On this episode, George and Maria, talk about Nafplio, an area in close proximity to Athens which you can visit all year round.Tune in to find out about the significance of the location, some history, what you can do and what Maria got up to there, as she visited this year for a few days.Further Podcast listening:The Athens Epidauros FestivalMy Greek WineBlog posts:Celebrating Art and Culture in Greece: The Magnificent Athens - Epidaurus FestivalOther:Book mentioned: Wandering in Naflpio: A lovers guide. by Keith SturgessSites included in the single ticket of EUR 20 valid for 3 days (in 2023) included: Palamidi Fortress, Archaeological site and museum of Mycenae, Byzantine Museum of Argolis, Tiryns, Palamidi, Archaeological site of Asine.Greek words/phrases shared on the episode:Let's go to Nafplio for the weekend/trip/daytrip: Páme Náfplio gia to Savvatokýriako(or Sou kou)/Ekdromí/Monoímeri (In Greek: Πάμε Ναύπλιο για το Σαββατοκύριακο (Σου κου)/ Εκδρομή/Μονοήμερη)Check out the My Greek Island website www.mygreekis.land where you can find blog posts to inspire your next trip, travel tips to download on your phone and more. Also give us a follow on instagram and TikTok to keep up to date with the My Greek Island adventures, and for those of you visiting Greece remember to tag us for a future feature.If you liked the episode, feel free to leave a rating and review, and to make sure you are notified as soon as future episodes are released, press the subscribe or follow button on the podcast platform of your choice. And if you have any requests for future episodes, feel free to drop us a DM.There are 227 inhabited Greek Islands, which one will YOU visit next?#MGIPODCAST Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
It's one of the greatest runs in television. During his more than four-decade run on Days of Our Lives, Thaao Penghlis has kept the plots twisting and the passions burning by playing two look-a-like villains, Count Tony DiMera and his impersonator Andre DiMera. But the Australian-born star is much more than a guy who knows how to deliver a nasty line and take a woman's slap. A world traveler and celebrated host of Hollywood dinner parties, Penghlis has authored the memoir Places: The Journey of My Days, My Lives, and the cookbook Seducing Celebrities One Meal at a Time. And now this child of Greek immigrants is pouring his own passions for all things Greece into a new podcast, The Lost Treasures, a thrilling detective story-style exploration of Greece's greatest contribution to the world's literature, the poet Homer. In a rollicking Mediterranean-hopping adventure, The Lost Treasurers explores the Iliad and the Odyssey through the amazing life of German archaeologist Heinrich Schliemann, who changed history when he discovered the real-life locations and treasures in the epic poems. Written and narrated Penghlis, the podcast draws on his exclusive access to 60,000 pages of long-hidden documents and diaries. “Against all odds, Heinrich Schliemann proved that the myths of Troy and the myths of Mycenae really happened,” says Penghlis. “For more than 20 years, my interest in this subject never waned. Two visits to Troy, five to Greece, I completed the journey. And I'm still wanting more.” more: getthefunkoutshow.kuci.org
https://www.patreon.com/GnosticInformant Please Consider joining my Patreon to help finding scholars to bring on. Any amount helps me. Thank you existing Patrons. The ancient Pelasgians mentioned by the Greek poet Homer were a mysterious and enigmatic people who played a significant role in early Greek mythology and history. Homer described them as a prehistoric civilization, often associated with the region of Thessaly and the city of Argos. However, the exact origins and characteristics of the Pelasgians remain a subject of debate among historians and scholars. According to Homer, the Pelasgians were a people who lived in the time before the Trojan War and were associated with the construction of massive structures, such as the walls of Mycenae. They were considered skilled builders and were often depicted as a semi-divine or legendary group. Some ancient Greek writers even suggested that the Pelasgians were the original inhabitants of Greece, predating other Greek-speaking tribes. The historical reality of the Pelasgians is complex and elusive, as they appear in various ancient Greek texts with different interpretations. Some scholars argue that they were a distinct ethnic group, while others propose that the term "Pelasgians" was used to refer to various indigenous populations of the Aegean region. Ultimately, the true identity and nature of the Pelasgians remain shrouded in the mists of antiquity, leaving us with fragments of mythology and historical accounts that continue to intrigue and fascinate to this day. The proto-Indo-European ancestors of the Greeks in and around the Black Sea region are generally believed to be the people known as the Proto-Greeks or the Mycenaean Greeks. The Mycenaean civilization, which flourished from around the 16th to the 12th century BCE, is considered an important precursor to classical Greek civilization. The Mycenaeans were part of a broader group of Indo-European speakers who migrated into the Balkans and Anatolia during the Bronze Age. These migrations are often associated with the expansion of the Indo-European language family, which includes Greek as one of its branches. The exact origins of the Proto-Greeks are still a subject of ongoing research and debate among historians and linguists. The Mycenaeans established a powerful civilization centered around the southern part of mainland Greece, with major centers such as Mycenae, Pylos, and Tiryns. They were skilled warriors, traders, and builders, known for their impressive palaces and fortifications. Their culture and language laid the foundation for the later development of ancient Greek civilization. It's important to note that while the Mycenaeans and their language are considered a significant part of the proto-Indo-European ancestry of the Greeks, the complex history of ancient migrations and cultural interactions in the region makes it difficult to attribute the Greek population exclusively to a single ancestral group. Civilization around the Black Sea region has a long and rich history, dating back thousands of years. The area has been inhabited by various cultures and civilizations since ancient times. The earliest evidence of human habitation in the region can be traced back to the Paleolithic era, around 45,000 to 12,000 years ago. In terms of more complex civilizations, one of the notable early cultures in the region was the Cucuteni-Trypillian culture, which flourished from approximately 5500 to 2750 BCE. This Neolithic culture was known for its advanced agriculture, pottery, and sizable settlements. Moving forward in time, the Black Sea region saw the rise and fall of various ancient civilizations. The ancient Greeks established numerous colonies along the coast of the Black Sea from the 8th century BCE onward, fostering trade and cultural exchange in the region. Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/NealSendlak1 Discord: https://discord.com/invite/uWBZkxd4UX#gnosticinformant #oldest #documentary --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/gnosticinformant/message
An interview with renowned archaeologist Dr. Eric Cline, author of 1177 BC: The Year Civilization Collapsed. Dr. Cline and Rich Napolitano discuss the Bronze Age shipwreck at Uluburun, dating back to 1300 BCE. The vessel was carrying vast amount of riches and valuable items that can be traced to kingdoms all over the Mediterranean, Aegean, and Near East Asia. The cargo found on the ship has changed what we knew about the Late Bronze Age and the trade relationships between the Mycenaeans, Minoans, Egyptians, Cypriots, Canaanites, Hittites, and Mitanni.For images, links, and sources, please visit www.shipwrecksandseadogs.com.
It's one of the greatest runs in television. During his more than four-decade run on Days of Our Lives, Thaao Penghlis has kept the plots twisting and the passions burning by playing two look-a-like villains, Count Tony DiMera and his impersonator Andre DiMera. But the Australian-born star is much more than a guy who knows how to deliver a nasty line and take a woman's slap. A world traveler and celebrated host of Hollywood dinner parties, Penghlis has authored the memoir Places: The Journey of My Days, My Lives, and the cookbook Seducing Celebrities One Meal at a Time. And now this child of Greek immigrants is pouring his own passions for all things Greece into a new podcast, The Lost Treasures, a thrilling detective story-style exploration of Greece's greatest contribution to the world's literature, the poet Homer. In a rollicking Mediterranean-hopping adventure, The Lost Treasurers explores the Iliad and the Odyssey through the amazing life of German archaeologist Heinrich Schliemann, who changed history when he discovered the real-life locations and treasures in the epic poems. Written and narrated Penghlis, the podcast draws on his exclusive access to 60,000 pages of long-hidden documents and diaries. “Against all odds, Heinrich Schliemann proved that the myths of Troy and the myths of Mycenae really happened,” says Penglis. “For more than 20 years, my interest in this subject never waned. Two visits to Troy, five to Greece, I completed the journey. And I'm still wanting more.” Want to watch: YouTube Meisterkhan Pod (Please Subscribe)
In this mini episode, Brooke of the Hampton Park Library recommends Clytemnestra by Constanza Casati, a retelling of Greek mythology focusing on Clytemnestra, the Queen of Mycenae and the wife of Agamemnon.
Objects generate time; time does not generate or change objects. That is the central thesis of this book by the philosopher Graham Harman and the archaeologist Christopher Witmore, who defend radical positions in their respective fields. Against a current and pervasive conviction that reality consists of an unceasing flux - a view associated in philosophy with New Materialism - object-oriented ontology asserts that objects of all varieties are the bedrock of reality from which time emerges. And against the narrative convictions of time as the course of historical events, the objects and encounters associated with archaeology push back against the very temporal delimitations which defined the field and its objects ever since its professionalization in the nineteenth century. In a study ranging from the ruins of ancient Corinth, Mycenae, and Troy to debates over time from Aristotle and al-Ash'ari through Henri Bergson and Alfred North Whitehead, the authors draw on alternative conceptions of time as retroactive, percolating, topological, cyclical, and generational, as consisting of countercurrents or of a surface tension between objects and their own qualities. Objects Untimely: Object-Oriented Philosophy and Archaeology (Polity Press, 2023) invites us to reconsider the modern notion of objects as inert matter serving as a receptacle for human categories. Adam Bobeck is a PhD candidate in Cultural Anthropology at the University of Leipzig. His PhD is entitled “Object-Oriented Azadari: Ontology and Ritual Theory”. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/new-books-network
Objects generate time; time does not generate or change objects. That is the central thesis of this book by the philosopher Graham Harman and the archaeologist Christopher Witmore, who defend radical positions in their respective fields. Against a current and pervasive conviction that reality consists of an unceasing flux - a view associated in philosophy with New Materialism - object-oriented ontology asserts that objects of all varieties are the bedrock of reality from which time emerges. And against the narrative convictions of time as the course of historical events, the objects and encounters associated with archaeology push back against the very temporal delimitations which defined the field and its objects ever since its professionalization in the nineteenth century. In a study ranging from the ruins of ancient Corinth, Mycenae, and Troy to debates over time from Aristotle and al-Ash'ari through Henri Bergson and Alfred North Whitehead, the authors draw on alternative conceptions of time as retroactive, percolating, topological, cyclical, and generational, as consisting of countercurrents or of a surface tension between objects and their own qualities. Objects Untimely: Object-Oriented Philosophy and Archaeology (Polity Press, 2023) invites us to reconsider the modern notion of objects as inert matter serving as a receptacle for human categories. Adam Bobeck is a PhD candidate in Cultural Anthropology at the University of Leipzig. His PhD is entitled “Object-Oriented Azadari: Ontology and Ritual Theory”. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/critical-theory
Objects generate time; time does not generate or change objects. That is the central thesis of this book by the philosopher Graham Harman and the archaeologist Christopher Witmore, who defend radical positions in their respective fields. Against a current and pervasive conviction that reality consists of an unceasing flux - a view associated in philosophy with New Materialism - object-oriented ontology asserts that objects of all varieties are the bedrock of reality from which time emerges. And against the narrative convictions of time as the course of historical events, the objects and encounters associated with archaeology push back against the very temporal delimitations which defined the field and its objects ever since its professionalization in the nineteenth century. In a study ranging from the ruins of ancient Corinth, Mycenae, and Troy to debates over time from Aristotle and al-Ash'ari through Henri Bergson and Alfred North Whitehead, the authors draw on alternative conceptions of time as retroactive, percolating, topological, cyclical, and generational, as consisting of countercurrents or of a surface tension between objects and their own qualities. Objects Untimely: Object-Oriented Philosophy and Archaeology (Polity Press, 2023) invites us to reconsider the modern notion of objects as inert matter serving as a receptacle for human categories. Adam Bobeck is a PhD candidate in Cultural Anthropology at the University of Leipzig. His PhD is entitled “Object-Oriented Azadari: Ontology and Ritual Theory”. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/anthropology
Objects generate time; time does not generate or change objects. That is the central thesis of this book by the philosopher Graham Harman and the archaeologist Christopher Witmore, who defend radical positions in their respective fields. Against a current and pervasive conviction that reality consists of an unceasing flux - a view associated in philosophy with New Materialism - object-oriented ontology asserts that objects of all varieties are the bedrock of reality from which time emerges. And against the narrative convictions of time as the course of historical events, the objects and encounters associated with archaeology push back against the very temporal delimitations which defined the field and its objects ever since its professionalization in the nineteenth century. In a study ranging from the ruins of ancient Corinth, Mycenae, and Troy to debates over time from Aristotle and al-Ash'ari through Henri Bergson and Alfred North Whitehead, the authors draw on alternative conceptions of time as retroactive, percolating, topological, cyclical, and generational, as consisting of countercurrents or of a surface tension between objects and their own qualities. Objects Untimely: Object-Oriented Philosophy and Archaeology (Polity Press, 2023) invites us to reconsider the modern notion of objects as inert matter serving as a receptacle for human categories. Adam Bobeck is a PhD candidate in Cultural Anthropology at the University of Leipzig. His PhD is entitled “Object-Oriented Azadari: Ontology and Ritual Theory”. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/archaeology
Objects generate time; time does not generate or change objects. That is the central thesis of this book by the philosopher Graham Harman and the archaeologist Christopher Witmore, who defend radical positions in their respective fields. Against a current and pervasive conviction that reality consists of an unceasing flux - a view associated in philosophy with New Materialism - object-oriented ontology asserts that objects of all varieties are the bedrock of reality from which time emerges. And against the narrative convictions of time as the course of historical events, the objects and encounters associated with archaeology push back against the very temporal delimitations which defined the field and its objects ever since its professionalization in the nineteenth century. In a study ranging from the ruins of ancient Corinth, Mycenae, and Troy to debates over time from Aristotle and al-Ash'ari through Henri Bergson and Alfred North Whitehead, the authors draw on alternative conceptions of time as retroactive, percolating, topological, cyclical, and generational, as consisting of countercurrents or of a surface tension between objects and their own qualities. Objects Untimely: Object-Oriented Philosophy and Archaeology (Polity Press, 2023) invites us to reconsider the modern notion of objects as inert matter serving as a receptacle for human categories. Adam Bobeck is a PhD candidate in Cultural Anthropology at the University of Leipzig. His PhD is entitled “Object-Oriented Azadari: Ontology and Ritual Theory”. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/intellectual-history
Despite its fame in ancient myth and history, the city of Troy was long lost to the ages, as the real site immortalized in Homer's Iliad faded from the landscape of western Anatolia. But in a series of astonishing excavations in the late 19th century, the mythical world of Greek epic came back to life at the hands of Heinrich Schliemann, a businessman-turned-archaeologist with a lifelong passion for the tales of the Trojan War. More information on the sites excavated by Schliemann can be found here-- Troy: https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/849/ Mycenae and Tiryns: https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/941 Original story contributed by marceloburlon --- CREDITS: Music from Storyblocks Thumbnail Images: historical photos of the Lion Gate in Mycenae, Schliemann, and "Priam's Treasure" WDS Logo Image: Kylix with Apollo playing the lyre and pouring a libation (c. 470 BC, Delphi Archeological Museum)
Links:https://www.odysseus-unbound.org/ Faceook YouTube Book: Odysseus Unbound: The Search for Homer's Ithaca In the series we have look at some elements within Greek history that have connections to traditional tales and mythology. Some big examples of these were when we looked at the Trojan War, Mycenae and the Minoans. Well once again we are looking at historical connections to what can be found within the ancient writings of Homer, this time with a focus on the Odyssey. This episode will be focused around the idea of locating the island of Ithaca that Homer describes within the Odyssey. For a long time, controversy has surrounded the actual location of Homers Ithaca, with many since ancient times questioning whether the Island we know today as Ithaki was actually the Ithaca of the Odyssey.In our modern time, one such man also questioned this idea. Robert Bittlestone with a Classics, Science and economics background, would return from the business world to his love of Classics to delve into the mystery around the home island of Odysseus. Robert would develop a working theory that would be eventually presented to an audience at Cambridge University. This is where Prof. James Diggle would become involved, seeing great merit in what Robert presented. Prof. Diggle would go on to contribute to Robert Bittlestone's book, Odysseus Unbound. The search for Homer's Ithaca. Unfortunately, Robert would pass away in 2015, however his legacy and work would continue on with the creation of the Odysseus Unbound foundation, with a number of professionals and academics making up its members, including Roberts son's Simon and Mathew.The Odysseus unbound Foundation is an educational charity dedicated to advancing knowledge of the ancient world. Specifically, we conduct and promote scientific and historical research to discover the actual locations of historical sites that have been described in ancient literature such as Homer's Odyssey.They are committed to publishing widely all their results so our understanding of the ancient world and the origins of our civilization today is enhanced to everyone's benefit.The Foundation was formed in 2017. It is built upon the inspiration of the late Robert Bittlestone whose ground-breaking ideas about the location of Ithaca, the homeland of Odysseus described by Homer in the Odyssey, are showing significant promise.Prof. James Diggle, Trustee of the Odysseus Unbound foundation is Emeritus Professor of Greek and Latin at Cambridge University and a Life Fellow of Queens' College.His publications include The Cambridge Greek Lexicon (Editor-in-Chief, Cambridge, 2021), The Oxford Classical Text of Euripides (Oxford, 1981-94), Euripidea: Collected Essays (Oxford, 1994) and Theophrastus: Characters (Cambridge, 2004).He was University Orator at Cambridge for eleven years and has published a selection of his speeches in Cambridge Orations (Cambridge, 1994). He is a Fellow of the British Academy and a Corresponding Member of the Academy of Athens.He was awarded his CBE in the 2022 New Year Honours for services to classical scholarship.Support the show
Episode two hundred thirty seven - part three Jessikah caught up with author Constanza Casati to talk about CLYTEMNESTRA, a novel featuring one of mythology's most vilified women. Fans of CIRCE, ARIADNE, and ITHAKA will devour this deep dive into the heart of the Spartan Princess who was the sister to Helen of Troy and Queen of Mycenae.
Part one of a three part series with Archaeologist Ilona Bartsch. We talk about her amazing trip to Greece and her journey around the country visiting many of the best archeology sites including Delphi, Mycenae, Vergina, Knossos Palace, Delos and more. Join us as we talk about the history behind these incredible places as well the Mythology and also the logistics about how to get to them and lots more...
Hear about travel to the Peloponnese Peninsula in Greece as the Amateur Traveler talks to travel writer Sally Jane Smith about a great alternative to visiting the Greek Islands.
How can you build your charisma? How does Greek mythology offer constructive leadership analogies? Episode 118 (Scott is based in New York City) In this conversation with Scott Mason, we explore: Charisma as a leadership quality The difference between entertainment and charisma Why powerful charisma both attracts and repels Why we need heroes that are flawed How to recognize charisma The importance of enabling the connection between your head and heart The rich litanies of Greek mythology Why Greek myths are a safe source of leadership lessons About Scott Mason Scott is a graduate of Columbia Law School and worked as legal counsel & a senior executive with government and nonprofit organizations for a quarter of a century. Scott's insights on Greek mythology and business success have appeared in book compilations and online magazines and blogs; he additionally was the founding host of the Greater New York City area's official podcast for Toastmasters International, the world's largest public speaking organization. Scott encourages everyone he knows to find a personal mythological avatar whose characteristics inspire them and keep them reaching high; his is Helios, the god of the sun, and has been ever since he was a little boy. Arrange for your complimentary Charisma Assessment with Scott. Select a meeting time from his calendar. https://calendly.com/scottmasonllc/ignite-your-charisma ---- Excerpts from this conversation with Scott Mason 06:26 Actually, I'm gonna bust you out a little bit, George, before we started taping you and I had a conversation about some apprentices that you're bringing on, and they were from Africa, and you wanted to work with them to help them help you. I find it interesting in light of that conversation that you mentioned Perseus because Perseus from a symbolic perspective, and I actually wrote a series of essays about this for LinkedIn and Instagram represents also someone who understands the need to ask for help. When it comes to achieving their goals. He literally saw the thought originally, he made the promise to kill Medusa basically as a boast. But then the king that he made this boast in front of held him to it, he realised pretty quickly, I can't do this alone. This is more than any one person can handle. And so he sought the help of the gods Athena, and Hermes, who literally walked him through an entire process along with some other folks along on the way to find Medusa. And then to destroy her. On the way back, he stopped in Ethiopia to help some other people out. That was a woman who was being chained to a rock to be eaten by a monster as a as a sacrifice. He used Medusa his head, or maybe actually use a sword to kill that monster. But in any event, he's left with this woman, Andromeda, who was an Ethiopian Princess, flew back to Greece, and they found it actually the greatest ancient Greek civilization of Mycenae. And so I think that in terms of what you just said to me, about what you're doing in your own professional life right now, as a growing business person, where you want to go, and the possible outcomes of what your work with other people could lead to Perseus as perhaps an even greater and more profound metaphor than you even realised. ----- Anyone can be charismatic so long as they take the four foundational steps and apply them into their lives to become charismatic, and it manifests itself very differently depending on who you are and what age and stage and and other characteristics you have in your mind. ----- 22:19 Your intended message could not be a more appropriate set of words, for the answer to that question. When I decided to land upon this framework as the tool for passing on my message, I knew that there would be a lot of people that responded to it exactly, as you just described. And in fact, one of the things that I viewed initially, as a sign that this ultimately would succeed, was the amount of negativity that I received, unsolicited online. I had people, by the way, who didn't seem to understand that I realised that Greek myths, right, like Zeus doesn't really exist. So I had people that were concerned about my immortal soul, or people who, you know, reminded me that I wasn't talking about the Bible, that sort of stuff. And I also, though, had people including some in my immediate circle, who felt the need to send me text messages, or DM saying that what I was doing sucked. Actually, George, that's charisma. Because I tell you, how many times when you're scrolling through social media, do you feel the need to stop and tell someone that you hate what they're doing? Usually, most people just scroll on, it said to me, it had an impact. My message is not intended to go to everyone. If you don't like Greek myths, well, I can get you to like them. But if you don't like allegory, if you don't like something that's out of the box, and creative, and there's nothing wrong with folks that aren't that way, I don't judge them. This ain't for you. The clients I have, make no mistake, they are committed. I have a client who began my program, we start talking about ethics from the beginning, because ethics do relate to charisma and less direct way. He started reading Aristotelian ethics. This on his free time because of that, that's commitment. I have other clients who when we do the actual mission statement that we sent her their charismatic exercises around, found an obscure Greek goddess that really spoke to her and that helped her frame her message and tighten and understand exactly who and what she needs to be. This program is not for those who are just interested in what I call pep rally motivation, or you go girl sort of encouragement of what you need. This is for those who are seriously seeking transformation as as cerebral. I'll be fun as the Greek myths are That's the depth that I seek for my clients to go to. The deeper you dig George, the more you find ----- ----more---- Your Intended Message is the podcast about how you can boost your career and business success by improving your communication skills. We'll examine the aspects of how we communicate one-to-one, one to few and one to many – plus that important conversation, one to self. In these interviews we will explore presentation skills, public speaking, conversation, persuasion, negotiation, sales conversations, marketing, team meetings, social media, branding, self talk and more. Your host is George Torok George is a specialist in executive communication skills. That includes conversation and presentation. He's fascinated by way we communicate and influence behaviors. He delivers training and coaching programs to help leaders and promising professionals deliver the intended message for greater success. Connect with George www.SpeechCoachforExecutives.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgetorokpresentations/ https://www.youtube.com/user/presentationskills https://www.instagram.com/georgetorok/ For weekly tips to improve your presentations visit https://toroktips.com/
The demi-god Hercules was regarded as a great hero for the people of Rome and Greece. He was known for performing various deeds that no mortal could. Hercules was an everyman who had bad days and even died due to another's trickery. These stories were entertaining, but they also told an important lesson to an audience: If bad things can happen to a hero, they have nothing to be ashamed of.The most famous of his activities was the 12 labours that Hercules was asked to perform by his cousin Eurystheus, who was the king of Mycenae and Tiryns. The first set of labours numbered only ten, but they eventually grew to twelve.To kill the Nemean Lion who was impervious to all weapons. To kill the monster known as the Hydra who had nine venomous heads and, when one was cut off, two more would grow in its place. To capture the Cerynitian Hind who was sacred to the goddess Artemis.To capture the Erymanthian Boar. Cleaning the Stables of Augeius in a day.To drive away the Stymphalian Birds.To bring back the Cretan Bull from Knossos.To bring back the Mares of Diomedes.To bring back Hippolyte's Girdle.To bring back the cattle of Geryon, king of Cadiz.To bring back the Golden Apples of Hesperides.To bring back Cerberus, the guard dog of the underworld.Read more at https://mythlok.com/hercules/
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I love being inspired by guests on Unstoppable Mindset. Ben Baker, our episode visitor today, is one of the most inspirational people I have had the honor to meet and interview. First, you get to hear how Ben worked in the corporate world and transitioned to a career in market branding when he realized that he was, at heart, a storyteller. Over the years, he not only told stories to help business executives become better marketers, but he also taught them how to advance their own careers and promote better marketing efforts by learning to become storytellers as well. Ben is an accomplished public speaker, something near and dear to me. We spend time during this episode talking about what makes a good inspirational speaker and why truly personally connecting with an audience is so meaningful and important. What Ben discusses is important for any speaker to hear. He also has written and published two books. By any definition, this episode is fun, and engaging and the lessons Ben Baker teaches us will be invaluable to you. Please let me know what you think, and I hope you give this episode a 5-star rating. Thanks. About the Guest: Ben has been helping companies, and the people within them understand, codify, and communicate their unique value to others for more than a quarter of a century. He is the president of Your Brand Marketing, an Employee Engagement Consultancy specializing in helping companies communicate more effectively inside their organizations. He is the author of two books: “Powerful Personal Brands: a hands-on guide to understanding yours,” and “Leading Beyond a Crisis: a conversation about what's next,” and the host of IHEART and Spotify syndicated YourLIVINGBrand.live show with more than 300 episodes behind him. About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. He is an Ambassador for the National Braille Literacy Campaign for the National Federation of the Blind and also serves as Ambassador for the American Humane Association's 2012 Hero Dog Awards. https://michaelhingson.com https://www.facebook.com/michael.hingson.author.speaker/ https://twitter.com/mhingson https://www.youtube.com/user/mhingson https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelhingson/ accessiBe Links https://accessibe.com/ https://www.youtube.com/c/accessiBe https://www.linkedin.com/company/accessibe/mycompany/ https://www.facebook.com/accessibe/ Thanks for listening! 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Hi, I'm Michael Hingson, Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe and the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, Thunder dog, the story of a blind man, his guide dog and the triumph of trust. Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us. Michael Hingson 01:21 Welcome to unstoppable mindset. Here we are once again. And I'm glad that you joined us wherever you happen to be, if you're driving, pay attention to the road. But we're glad you're listening anyway. We hope that she'll like what we have to do today and have to say today and that she'll give us a five star rating later. But we'll get to that in the future. Right now I'd like you to meet Ben Baker, who is very much involved in a lot of things relating to company's branding. And I'm not going to say a whole lot about it. Because I think Ben's going to do a much better job than I ever could. So Ben, welcome. Ben Baker 01:54 Hey, Michael is great being on the mic with you. This is a real pleasure. Michael Hingson 01:59 Gee, I didn't know that we can fit on the mic. Ben Baker 02:00 We could work. I got a big microphone. Me too. Michael Hingson 02:06 It could even be comfortable, I suppose. Well, well tell us about kind of maybe the early band, and you know, how you got where you were and where you are, and all that. Ben Baker 02:15 Yeah, I will skip my childhood. You know, just you know, just because it really wasn't that exciting. I got into, well, let's, let's put this way I started in high tech, probably about 35 plus years ago, spent about 10 years in the high tech industry. And the last job I had, I was responsible for $100 million client and I spent my life in the air I was 200 days in a plane, probably 250 days away from home. And I was the guy that woke up in the morning and called down to the concierge and said, What city am I in? And literally if my wife wants to know where I was, she called my secretary. And to find out what city I was in, it was it was it was that bad. And she and I looked at each other and said, This is a divorce waiting to happen. And I went up to my boss and said you have two things we can do. You can double my salary to pay for the divorce. Or you can cut my travel days in half. They said well, we're not willing to do either. How about we buy you out? I said perfect. And the one thing I got out of this besides, you know, a nice healthy severance package was what do you want to be when you grow up tech training. And I got a buddy of mine who is industrial psychologist sat me down for a week ran me through a battery of tests. We had a series of conversations, and waste has been Your storyteller. You always have been a storyteller, you're always probably going to be a storyteller. Communications is really where you need to be. And I went, Okay, what do we do with that? And I was out playing golf, and I met a person who was in the direct mail business, and they were looking for someone to handle casinos and the grocery chance. And I did that for a number of years and loved it. You know, we did hundreds of millions of pieces of direct mail, you know, created some really phenomenal campaigns, told some great stories, built brands, and do and then 911 happened. And the business changed and we ended up having to refocus. And that was that was okay. But it was it was a lot of fun during the time. And over the time, what I realized is that I tell great stories, and I love helping other people tell great stories. And it's led to branding and promotional marketing is led to trade show development. But over the last 10 years, what we've realized is that most companies are not bad at telling their story outside their company. They're horrific and telling the story inside their own company. And that's really the pocket where I sit. It's internal communications. How do we align people with your purpose, your vision, your mission, your goals? How do we build cultures how How do we enable leaders to be able to communicate effectively, to get everybody barking in the same direction, to get people to understand the purpose and the value and, and what's important, and be able to get people aligned with it and see why it's important to them. So that's really where I am. And that's where I'm going. And we do a bunch of things. We do messaging audits, we do deal breaker internal brand development. We do internal podcasts for large enterprise level companies. But it's all focused on how do we help companies communicate more effectively, first of all, understand where they're where the issues are, and then help them fix it. Michael Hingson 05:40 Do you find that also, because you help companies become more intelligent and more aware, internally of messaging to each other and themselves? That that helps them on the outside as well? Absolutely. Ben Baker 05:59 I mean, your employees are your best form of marketing and branding. They really are. When your people know your story, they listen to it, they internalize it, they retell it, they become better advocates for your brand. They build better customer relationships, they build better and more loyal customers, they build a more profitable business. Everything starts internally, but focus is externally. And if you realize it, if you can get a team of people within your company that can tell your story effectively for you, all of a sudden, do those social media posts, and all those all that marketing and all those ads that you buy, diminish dramatically, because your best advocates are out there telling your story. And you're not paying for that social media marketing. Michael Hingson 06:49 You really can't pay for that it is so incredibly much more powerful. Ben Baker 06:55 Absolutely. Michael Hingson 06:57 Well, the the other part about it, it seems to me that most companies internally and maybe to a good degree externally, because they're in very much not strategic, are much more reactive and not nearly as proactive as they ought to be about their messaging, which also has to affect every other thing about their mindset and what they do. Ben Baker 07:18 Yeah, I mean, that was my big learn, when I started working with grocery stores and casinos, is everybody's reactive. Everybody says, Oh, my God, my competitor, put a coupon out, I need to put a coupon out, oh, my competitor, put this this program in place, I need to put a program like that into place. And he'll, what it is, is you're sitting there going from a position of me to, yeah, I need to do this as well, instead of focusing on who you are, who your customers are, what differentiates you and leading the pack, you're chasing somebody else. So my goal is to help people to stop chasing other people, embrace who they really are, and go after the people that care about them and see the value in what they do. Michael Hingson 08:04 How do you do that? Ben Baker 08:06 It's a long process, you know, it's not, it's not simple. You're gonna break some things, you're gonna make a mess before you before you clean it up. The first thing is to sit there and say, Who are you really, and actually putting people's feet to the fire, to go and sit there and go. This is what I believe as a CEO, as a leader, as an owner of a company. This is what I believe this is the vision that I have for the company. This is what I think our culture is this is what I think our mission vision and values are great. Do your people think the same thing? And nine times out of 10? The answer is usually no. There is usually a disconnect somewhere, you know that there isn't true alignment between what the C suite thinks that the company is all about, and what the people who actually work for the company believe. And until you can get that group of alignment. First of all, you need to understand that there is the disconnect. And once you understand there's a disconnect, then it's a built in the processes and and the story and the you know, the process, the ways the procedures in order to be able to get everybody back onto on singing from the same song sheet. Michael Hingson 09:21 Is is it more of at the beginning? No, they they're not the same as me or? I don't know. Ben Baker 09:29 A lot of times it's both. Yeah, yeah. A lot of times it's both you have leaders that absolutely, definitively believe that everybody believes exactly the same way they do. And then you have leaders that don't know. And either way we need to prove it. Michael Hingson 09:48 And it's not that people have to think exactly alike, but they have to be all on the same page when it comes to the mission, the product the way we deal with the product. What are you Future is in so on, and everyone has to be engaged. Ben Baker 10:03 Exactly. Because there's so many people that out there, here's a perfect example, a guy that I interviewed on my podcast sold his company to a fairly large fortune 500 company. You know, he had 250 300 employees, a reasonable sized Corporation. And when this company came along and bottom, the first thing they did is they sent somebody in to talk to 70 of his employees, and say, Tell me, what differentiates you in the marketplace? Who are your top customers? What do you guys do? What makes you valuable in the marketplace? And they got 60 or 70? different answers, you know, the answers buried all over the place, and there were some connections, but there was a lot of disconnect. And with that disconnect, they realized that they had a major problem. And that affected the buy price that if that affected work that had to be done before that merger and acquisition could actually happen. And, you know, it led to a lot of brand confusion. So there was there was a lot of work that needed to happen. Before this company actually was willing to buy the mat after those those, those initial interviews, Michael Hingson 11:14 did they get it all addressed? And Ben Baker 11:19 they absolutely did, they got it together. But it took probably nine months longer than they actually thought it would, based on the fact that instead of them walking in and say, Okay, here we are, as a company, this is what we can do for you. And this is how we're going to fit into your your organization. They had to figure out who they were first, before they could go ahead and do that. That's why a lot of mergers and acquisitions fail, is because there is a disconnect between what is perceived the value of the merger, and what really actually happens. Michael Hingson 11:55 So how were you involved in all of that, were you just the interviewer on the podcast, you weren't involved in actually making those changes, or Ben Baker 12:02 you know what, I worked with them very superficially, because I just I met this person that very late in the process, but you know, being able to have some initial conversations with them to point them in the right direction. You know, I wasn't involved with this. But in other companies, some things that we've done is we'll sit down with, say, you've got 15 different branch offices, will go into the 15 branch offices, and not only myself, but I bring a graphic recorder with me, those are the people that stand behind you, and do graphic representation of the conversation as it's happening, you'll get a big, large piece of paper. And we'll have the same conversation within each of the same 15 with asking the same questions, having the same things about purpose and culture and vision, and who are the clients tell me the story of the organization, etc. And we'll create a dozen vision boards for each for each office dealing with various parts of the conversation. Now, when you take all these things, and compare them office to office, and branch office versus main, your main office, you can see immediately the disconnect. In fact, the further you are away from head office, you know, both physically and it tends to be mentally as well. So you get the people that are further away, tend to be the ones that don't get enough of the information, or they tend to be forgotten about when when key, you know, key messaging is being made. So there's that out of sight, out of mind situation, which leads to all sorts of Michael Hingson 13:42 havoc. This may be a little bit of a challenge for you. But I'd love to know more about the graphic representations not being graphic oriented. But how does how does all that work? What what actually gets drawn on the paper? And how do you see the disconnects? And so on, Ben Baker 13:55 you know, it's a it's a cartoon representation of, of a process and trying to explain to somebody that's blind, it's, it's a, it's a serious challenge is because it's, it's, it's almost like taking somebody on a graphical journey. Are you drawing people and they're drawing people and actions, and there's words that will come with it? And you know, and what it is, it's a representation in a graphical form of the ideas that are being mentioned by the data different by the different people. So, you know, I can send you a graphic, a short video, I think it's about a 32nd video, from one of the keynotes that I've done where I actually had a graphic artists do this for me. So I could do that. And that can be part of the show notes if people want to see it. Michael Hingson 14:45 You're welcome to do that. Sure. Of course, if if you were dealing with a company owned by a blind person or you had a blind person working in one of the branch offices and so on, I suppose in one sense, it might be viewed as a major A challenge to deal with the fact that you're creating graphic representations. But ultimately, you can describe it, right? So it is possible to verbalize what the graphic artist is seeing, and then use that to point out where the graphs and the cartoons are showing the disconnects and the connections. Ben Baker 15:24 And as well, if I knew that I had people within the company that were, you know, visually challenged, for example, I would also have the the actual talks recorded and be able to create a transcript as Michael Hingson 15:37 well. Yeah. And again, you could put in the issues about where the connects and disconnects are. Ben Baker 15:43 Exactly, absolutely. So it's a matter of looking at who's the audience, you know, who are the people that we need to be aware of? Because it's important to make sure that you're being able to be as inclusive as humanly possible. Is it possible to be 100%? Inclusive? 100% of the time? No, but the more we can be, the better off it is. Michael Hingson 16:05 You've been doing this, I think you said like about 10 years did something happened in 2013, that made you go this way or changed your world? Ben Baker 16:12 Well, in 2013, I had I don't know if it was a direct result or an indirect result, I was in a bad car accident. And it it what it is, it focused me in a different ways. Because what I what ended up being is I got I got rear ended, I didn't see it coming, I didn't hear it coming and I hit by two cars behind me the third, the middle car ended up looking like an accordion. And what happened was, is that I had a mild traumatic brain injury. And also I have what's known as hyperacusis, which means I have way too much sound that goes into my ears, and the eardrum doesn't do it. So I hear cacophony of sound if I go into a room, I need to be wearing special hearing aids that act as white noise machines to be able to focus me when I talk, we're always like, just hear every sound in the room, and I can't concentrate. So I started taking a look and saying, Alright, I need to refocus my business, I need to take a look and say how can I refocus my business in ways where I can be more successful? And the internal communication was probably something I had already been thinking about something that I've been working on. But I think by actively looking at how do I, how do I run my business? What are the things that need to change in my business to be able to make it more successful? What do I need to do to augment my policies and procedures, in order to make my life better, it made me far more cognizant of how this could be utilized in other people's companies. Michael Hingson 17:54 And what you're doing, I assume has been well received, Ben Baker 17:58 it is extremely well received, it's you know, it's not for everybody, you know, it's, you know, I tend to work with companies that are mid to large sized companies, because they end up having the budget to be able to do this. They also have, you know, they have the bigger needs, the bigger challenges, and therefore, they can see where the ROI is, you know, the smaller organizations, the one to $10 million companies tend not to see the ROI, because there's still all within one building. And there tends to be 25 or 30 employees. And you can you can handle, you can huddle them up, and be able to have quicker, you know, changes the conversation. And you know, what I'll do, I'll do consulting and smaller companies to basically say, look, here are the challenges. Here's some things you need to be thinking about, here's some different ways of doing things. But it's not the long protracted conversations and consulting projects that I'm doing with larger organizations that tend to be more spread out, you know, bigger issues, more departments feel more more moving parts. And I find that that for me, that's the more interesting stuff. Michael Hingson 19:09 Well, going back to your initial process, graphically speaking, it's got to be more difficult to deal with a small company and showing this connects when you're just dealing with different personalities within the same small company, although they're still there, and it's something to be dealt with. But it's got to be a lot harder to make real comparisons and show some of the real challenges that you are able to, I would believe are much easier to show when you're dealing with a diverse company with a lot of different offices and as you said a lot of different departments and so on. Ben Baker 19:44 Well, in the smaller companies, you tend to have CEOs that our How can I say this are their accidental CEOs because I'm one of them myself. You start with an idea. You You were really good at We X, and you decide to start a company. And as that company grew and you became a little bit more successful, you decided I don't want to do this, I don't want to do this, I don't want to do this. So you'll hire a few people. And the company grows, and it gets to a certain point. But you really are still that entrepreneur, with without the training, and without the thought processes of what it takes to really take you from that one to $5 million company to take you to that 50 to $100 million, because it's a very different thought process, you run your company differently, you tend to be a lot more hands on, you tend to be a lot more critical of how other people do things. And you tend to micromanage a lot more. Because, you know, you look at this and say, Well, I wouldn't do it that way. Instead of saying, Okay, I don't do it that way. But maybe they're doing it better. And as you grow as an organization, you can't, you have to be able to give up control to different departments, and you have to trust a lot more. Because if you don't have that level of trust, if you don't empower teams to do to a certain level, you're never going to grow. So there's a psychological change that happens, as companies get over a certain certain dollar amount of a certain size. Michael Hingson 21:20 The the issue, in part also is that your role as the CEO, and I think this is what you're saying, really needs to change, because rather than being as much hands on, you, as you said, need to trust to allow people in departments that are being created to do their jobs. And you need to become more of the visionary in the true overall leader rather than micromanaging everything. Ben Baker 21:47 Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, as far as the job goes, is the CEO that got you to 25 million won't get you to 250 million. You know, because it's a different philosophy. It's a different philosophy on leadership, it's a different vision, it's different risk level. It's it's, it's you have to think differently, as your company gets larger, and you need to be able to sit there and say, You know what, my job is not to know everything, my job is not to be smarter than everybody, my job is not to do anything. My job is to hire really good people, and let them do what they do best. And that, you know, once a month shifts, that's a mind shifts switch. Michael Hingson 22:24 It is it's an absolute shift in the whole mindset of what you do. I know, one of the things that I learned, I took a Dale Carnegie sales course when I was suddenly confronted with the opportunity. And I put it that way in need to go into sales from what I had been doing before. And I learned early on about not only setting goals, but a couple of principles that I learned in the Dale Carnegie sales course, which one of which was turn liabilities into perceived liabilities into assets, which is a very powerful tool. And that is something that I deal a lot with when it comes to discussing blindness. But the other thing that I realized is as a salesperson, whether it's dealing with a customer, or later when I started managing, dealing with people inside the company is my job really is to add value to make other people successful. And so when I started the process of hiring salespeople, one of the things that I started to do was to tell each of them, I'm not here to boss you around, you have sold me on the fact that you can sell someone people did a better job than others are doing that. And some of them were successful, and some weren't. But that's beside the point, you sold me on the fact that you can sell and I'm going to hire you because you can do it. What you and I need to do is to now see how I can work with you as a second member of your team to add value to what you do. And the people who were the most successful at doing that. Were the people who ended up being the most successful at sales because they figured out how I sold and what I did, which was usually different than they I tend to listen a lot more I tend to ask open ended questions I hate closed in questions I don't like yes and no questions anytime. And so I would do that when working with people. And some of the more successful people would invite me to go along on sales calls and so on because I also had a technical knowledge. And one person asked me after a meeting one day, how can you know so much about the product? And I don't know all that and I just said, do you read the product briefings that come out? Well, I've been pretty busy. And I said There you go. But you know, but it's about Ben Baker 24:47 people look up RTFM read the blank manual. Michael Hingson 24:53 Yeah. Read the full manual. Very full manual. That's manual. Yeah. Yeah, that's it full manual. But but the thing is that what what I learned is that in what the brightest sales guy I ever knew, learned was that I had added a lot of value and had advantages that he didn't have. And one of the biggest advantages and I was blind, we went into a sales meeting one day, and a meeting with one of his customers. And he didn't tell them that I was blind. And he told me he didn't. And I understood that that wasn't a slur or a slam or anything that he's he because he said, we're going to hit him with it. And they want to what to do with you. So they're going to listen to us what a concept. And that's exactly what happened. We went into the room, people stopped talking, we actually arrived a minute late deliberately so that everyone would be there. And they stopped talking. And we went up to the front and plugged in the PowerPoint, projector and all that. And as we were doing all that I turned and said to the first guy in the well, as you're coming up the the be the upper right row, and I said, my name is Mike, what's your name? And it took me a couple of times to get him to say his name. And I finally had to say, look, I can hear you as I go by, you know, I know you're there. So don't Don't tell me you're not, you know, so what's your name? And we we ended up having a conversation and I asked him some questions. And then I went around the room. And by the time we were done going around the room, and asking people about themselves and why we were there and so on, it was very obvious our product wasn't what they needed. But we went ahead and did the demonstration because I was going to do the whole PowerPoint show. Blind guys can do that. And a guy came up to me afterward. And he said, you know, we're ticked at you. And I said, why? Well, we keep forgetting that you're blind. And you never looked away to go see what was on the screen. And we didn't dare fall asleep, because you would have caught us. And it was those kinds of things that this particular sales guy saw, that caused him to realize there's a lot of value to be added, as I said, and that I could help him and he was by far the most successful sales guy I ever had, because he was very creative. And he learned that he could ask more open ended questions. So it also improved his sales skills and what he did. Ben Baker 27:17 Yeah, there's two thoughts that come out of that. And I love I love that is the first is understand your superpower, we all have a superpower. And too many of us focus on the things that we can't do, instead of doubling down on the stuff that we can do. And I think that that is that is a hindrance of most people, whether they're sitting down at their first job or their last job, it doesn't matter where you are in the organization. Too many people say, Well, I can't do this, and I can't do that, or I'm not as good as this person, or I'm not as good as that person. It doesn't matter. You know, we all have something that makes us valuable. And the more we can sit there and say, This is what I do, well, this is my jam. This is where I shine, and be willing to say, All right, I am lousy at accounting, I cannot paint a house, I cannot, you know weed a garden, hire people, find people that that's their superpower. And bring them in, because everybody's who has their own superpower is going to bring a fresh perspective to your life in your business doing showing you things that you don't know how to do, and let them shine and do the things they want to do. I think that that's, that's a big thing. And the other thing that I came out of that is expectations versus accountability. You know, when we hire salespeople, when we hire anybody, and we lead them, it's not about expectations and accountability, you work for me, and this is what I expected, you're gonna be held accountable. It has to go both ways. As a leader, I need to know that my team needs to know that I that they have expectations of me. And I should be held as accountable as they are for those expectations. Because if we all sit there and go, You know what, I want to make more money, great. This is what you can expect from me, this is what I need from you. And if we do that we're all going to make money together, then we can hold each other accountable. Michael Hingson 29:19 And if as a team, you get buy in from each other, you may have to go through conflict to get there. But if as a team, you get buy in, and you work toward getting agreement of what the team is supposed to do. And then you make it clear that accountability is part of it. It makes you a stronger team because people also realize, well, you're telling me I'm not doing something, oh, you're not doing that because you're being mean or obnoxious. You're doing that because you want to know that I'm doing the things that I committed to do. And when teams get to realize that concept, then you have a much more powerful world you live in. Ben Baker 29:59 Absolutely The and you said something, you know, it says conflict. Everybody's afraid of conflict today. Yeah. And conflict is not a bad thing. Conflict is not a four letter word. You know, we all need healthy conflict in our lives. If we're if we live in a world with no conflict, all we have is groupthink. All we have is people that are afraid to speak up people that are afraid to think people that are afraid to voice a different opinion. And we keep going the way that those so and so says we should do it. And companies end up becoming commodities, they end up being the low value, low price easily forgotten, and they go out of business, Michael Hingson 30:40 low morale? Absolutely. I think we read the same books, my when I think I actually told me once one of my favorite books is The Five Dysfunctions of a Team and Patrick Lencioni talks about all these sorts of things in there. Absolutely. And it's an it's so important. There's, there's always or should always be room for discussion, and disagreement. As long as you're doing it for the right reason, and that the outcome has to be that you collectively find a way to find agreement to move forward and that you all settle on a plan. Ben Baker 31:16 But it's getting people to focus on the ideas and the concepts, and not each other. Yeah. And that's the big thing. That's what I love about doing the graphical representation, because you have a roomful of people that have some level of conflict amongst them, either there's a hierarchy thing, or there's an ego thing or whatever, within the room. As soon as they're all sitting there focused on that person drawing that piece of paper, they start focusing on the problem and the issue instead of each other's egos. And it's amazing how that that transformation occurs. Michael Hingson 31:53 I love to tell people that I've learned more about management and team building from working with eight guide dogs than I've ever learned from Ken Blanchard, even pat Lencioni, and so on, because dogs, although they, I really believe love unconditionally, they don't trust unconditionally. But the difference between a dog and a person is that unless you have just really encountered a dog with major abuse in their lives, or you abuse a dog, they're open a lot more to trust than we are, which gives you the opportunity to build trust both ways. Ben Baker 32:32 Yeah, and trust trust is, is a delicate thing. Mostly, as I say, what was the best thing that somebody told me says, Trust and verify? You trust and verify. But the problem is, is that you trust but trust to be broken easily. And it is almost impossible to repair? What's it once it's been broken? Michael Hingson 32:53 Right. And we have had an environment, collectively in the country or in with each other where we've learned about humans, oh, that person says they want to trust me and all that. But they've got a hidden agenda. And I've got to really watch out for that. And so we've learned not to trust we've learned not to be open to trust anyway. Ben Baker 33:19 Well look at social media. I mean, social media is what we see is the waxed veneer of human beings. Very few people actually show themselves for who they really are. Warts and all on social media every everybody has as whitewashed and cleaned up their persona for social media. So therefore, you sit there and go, okay, is this somebody's life? Or? Or is this the, you know, the highlight reel of who they truly are. And for most people, what you see on social media is people's highlight reels, you know that they've cleaned it up, they've they've, they've pressed their suits, they've, they've combed their hair, and they've straighten their teeth, but you're not actually getting who they are, when you go up and shake them up on the hand and you have to deal with them day in and day out. Yeah. Michael Hingson 34:12 And, and even zoom, if you have real meetings with people, you get closer to the connection. For me, it doesn't matter whether mostly anyway, I'm in a Zoom meeting or I'm in a meeting face to face with someone that one differences at least I can shake hands and I draw a lot of conclusions about people by handshakes. Because is it a firm handshake? Are they just trying to squeeze your fingers and break them or are they just a limp handshake and people talk about handshakes all the time, but it's true. On the other hand, I can get a lot out of listening to a person on Zoom. My first job in sales will actually not my first job but one of my later jobs and say I was I worked for a company that was based out here in Carlsbad, California. And I was assigned to sell to the mid atlantic arena, from Washington up to in Virginia, up through New York. And we were selling high end products. So it wasn't like telemarketing or anything like that. And I learned pretty quickly that the very same sales processes that I would use in talking to someone in person applied to talking with them on the phone. And it also meant that I needed to be as open with them on the phone as I would be in person, because they can tell if I'm hiding or just faking a persona or not. Oh, Ben Baker 35:51 absolutely. I mean, it's interesting, because over the last two years, I've done 75 or 80, keynotes, virtually, no, unfortunately, march 2020, my life change the keynotes that I delivered around the world ended. Yeah, they just ended the meeting to 72 hours a year to a year and a half's worth of keynote speaking, was gone in 72 hours. Yeah. And I've come to the realization that truthfully, honestly, I really don't like delivering keynotes virtually. Yeah, cuz I feel people, you don't hear them, you don't, you don't see them. You don't get the facial expressions, you don't get the shifting in people's seats. You don't you don't get that those, those comments under people's breaths. There isn't that slight chuckle. You don't get any of the humaneness that a live presentation gives you in the spontaneity, because in terms of most things, most people turn off put on the mute button, they turn off their monitor, and they're sitting there reading their email while you're talking. Right. And you don't get to see the full human being that what you're speaking to, and I find that very challenging. And sometimes a little disconcerting, especially when you're dealing with 500 people on a zoom call. And all you see is mostly blank screens. Michael Hingson 37:16 So needless to say, not seeing the blank screens, but I miss a lot of the other stuff when I'm delivering a talk. And I'm doing it in person, I get to listen to all the different kinds of reactions. And I know absolutely, categorically, when I'm connecting with an audience, because I've learned that based on different remarks and comments and tonal issues that I display. I know what to expect if an audience is connected or not. And I don't get any of that on a zoom call. So kind of just have to plow ahead on a zoom call, as opposed to being in a room and talking to people and knowing you're connected. Including along the way, somebody's cell phone rings, and I'll stop and go Hello. And expecting to get a laugh if they're connected. And usually do you know and if I don't get a laugh, then I'm looking immediately for what other ways do I need to connect so that there is drawn in as I want them to be? And I can't possibly get that in a virtual call? Ben Baker 38:29 Oh, absolutely. I literally had somebody in the front row I talk I was giving and their cell phone went off. And I walked off the stage and I grabbed the phone. It says they'll call you back during the middle of my keynote. I put their phone in my pocket says you can have that after the show. And the entire room. Burst out stood up. Yeah. First out laughing because they're gonna say, I can't believe he just did that. But it was it was one of those spontaneous things. I hadn't planned it, I hadn't thought about it. It just I just went ahead and did it. But it's those little magical things that get an audience talking about you for months, if not years ahead of time. From then, Michael Hingson 39:12 I still remember reading an article about Sandy Duncan when she was playing Peter Pan on Broadway. And she was flying and went out over the audience and somebody's cell phone rang and he answered the call and she just flew over him and kicked the phone out of his hand. And and I guess people loved it but there was already at that time something that's notification don't use cell phones in the audience when course you're gonna live performance which was appropriate. But yeah, it's it's those kinds of things that also, as you said, make people remember you and that says it should be and they'll talk about you and not in a negative way, generally speaking, as well. Actually, if they're drawn into what you're saying, Ben Baker 40:02 well, the person whose cell phone uh, came up to me afterwards goes, goes, I can't believe you did it. But that was funny. Michael Hingson 40:08 Yeah. Ben Baker 40:11 He knew he was in the wrong. Yeah, absolutely knew he was in the wrong, you know, but he just said there was, what am I going to do the phone rings against you silence it fast enough. And so I by the time I had the phone in my hand, you know, he thought it was funny. Everybody round him thought it was funny. But you could have absolutely had somebody who was very arrogant to go, how dare you take the phone out of my hand could have. Either way, you're still they're still going to talk about you. Michael Hingson 40:38 I've been in audiences where I forgot to put my cell phone on mute. And it rings and I will get it out as fast as I can and mute it. I mean, that's the best thing I can do. Because I don't want to answer it. But yeah, and it is appropriate for people when you're a speaker to expect that people aren't going to have their cell phones or they're going to have a not have them on or at least they're going to mute them. Because they're supposed to be there to value you. I actually heard something last Friday. I was in a meeting. It's called PATA Palooza, which is a program where podcasters would be podcasters. And people who want to be interviewed by podcasters get together. It's a quarterly thing. And one of the things that one of the people said near the beginning was I'm talking, I can see the chat room, I would really appreciate it unless you have a specific question. Don't just sit there and chat in the chat room. Because it takes away from you listening to speakers, whether it's me or anyone else. And I see that all the time that people are chatting in the chat room, they're clearly not as focused on the speaker, as they should be, because they're doing everything but listening to the speaker. They're reading chats, they're chatting, oh, that was great what that person said, and they're spending all this time doing everything except listening to the Ben Baker 41:58 speaker. But you can also have fun with it. I mean, two things I usually have. If I'm in a great big keynote online, I have somebody who's in the chat room. And I get them to sit there and go, Oh, that was a great question. But hang on a second, before you go into your next talk, you got to answer this question. And I always breathe, because then you're bringing a human element into it. That's okay. And that's fun. You know, it's fun, it's a matter of sit there going, Look, humans are human beings. We all have a need to, you know, to voice our opinion, to think to be engaged, but you want to be able to make people engage. I remember when Twitter walls were the big thing, where you had a big deal. 20 foot screen beside you as you were doing a keynote, and they were doing the Twitter feed while you're talking. And I used to, you know, halfway through my keynote, go and look at the Twitter wall and pick up a few tweets and start talking about them. Because then people sit there going, Wait a second, they're paying attention to me. Yeah, this is a human being on stage talking to human beings. And we all are, we're all human beings, and we all want to be listened to understood and valued. And the more it is not the Oracle from up high, you know, extolling the virtues. And actually being a human being talking to human being, helping them be better human beings, the more exciting to talk at tends to be Michael Hingson 43:22 one of the things that I do again, when speaking, especially when I know their screens, and especially when I know that people are listening virtually, is to say, I gotta tell you, I'm not gonna be paying attention to you in the chat room, not because I have anything against chats and all that, but rather, because I can't chat and talk at the same time. But we do have somebody who will take questions and we will get to you. So if you really have an urgent question, then indicate that and I will make sure that I hear about it and and try to answer it immediately. Because I love answering questions, but mostly chats, and I don't necessarily interact well together. Ben Baker 44:07 Well, it was just, it's distracting. I mean, think about it. From a keynote speakers point of view, when you're online. When you're online, you have a chat going on the background, you try to get all the technical things going on, you're trying to speak while at the same time, you're doing your own PowerPoint. And also you're you're working both hands with both Mycenae and keyboard while you're trying to deliver a seamless conversation. It's tougher to bid at the best of times. Yeah, and then trying to watch the chat room at the same time. It's impossible isn't gonna lead to we need to realize that people want to chat. People want to be part of that they want to be engaged in the conversation. So how do we facilitate that we have somebody whose job it is right to be to be that intermediary between the chat and us on stage to be able to To be able to bring everybody together. And I think that that's, that's a part of online presentations that most people are missing. Michael Hingson 45:08 Yeah. And I find that that tends to work very well. And I will make clear to people upfront love to answer questions. And if there's a way to make that happen, then we do it. The other thing I love to do, and of course, a lot of the speeches that I do, I want to educate people a little bit about blindness and the fact that we're really not different than you guys. Sure. And so I will start off, I'm going to give my secret away. But I start off the presentations by saying when asked you a few questions, and mostly I don't get caught with this? I'll I'll say something like, did everybody hear the about the Supreme Court decision yesterday? Or did you did you happen to see that movie last night that was on TV? Or or, you know, how many of you know a person who happens to be blind, and I'll do a few of those. And if I'm fortunate, which most of the time I am, this is probably going to change now. But if I'm fortunate, people will raise their hands, they won't apply? Because they don't get it. Right. Right. And the last question I ask is, how many of you think it's a bright idea that when a blind lecturer is speaking to you that you respond by raising your hands. And it's fun, and it is always it's fun to do that. But people do take that sort of thing to heart. As I said, Now, I'm going to be in trouble, because everybody's going to applaud. So I'm gonna have to find a different way to do it, because they're gonna listen to this podcast. He said, hoping. But But speeches, I find in dealing with customers and dealing with employees in all that I do, it isn't talking to I talk about it with prayer, even it's not talking to God, it's talking with God. It's talking with your audience, and making them part of the the whole experience that you're all involved in involved in. And as I tell people, If I don't go away learning more than you learn, then I'm not doing my job well. Well, it's Ben Baker 47:11 speaking to people in language that resonates with them, using analogies that resonate with them. Because I'm going to speak to steel workers a lot differently than I'm going to speak to accountants. Yeah, the same concepts will come into play, the same ideas will come into play, but I'll use different analogies. And I'll use different frames of reference because you need to be able to make people sit there go, I get that. Okay. Yeah, I understand. And it's not about you. It's about the audience that you're speaking to. And how do you get them on board? How do you get them to sit there and go? Yeah, all right. Now I understand what they're talking about. Okay, I'm bought in now, I'm going to really listen. Michael Hingson 47:57 Have you ever given a speech where you were given a series of expectations of what was to happen and what the speech was to bid God about in the audience, and so on, whether it's a speaker's bureau that did it or from somewhere, and you got there and found out that you were totally given the wrong information and had to recraft the speech Ben Baker 48:19 that happened to me just before COVID. That happened to me just before COVID, I was the last speaker, in our speakers evening. And I was given some information. And my understanding was, it was going to be a very corporate evening. And listen to speaker after speaker after speaker. It was very personal. It was extremely personal. And the audience was buying into this. And if I had delivered the speech that I had to give it, first of all, it would have landed flat. And second of all, it never would have resonated with anybody. Yeah. And I said to these guys, I said, luck. You have to, we have two choices. Either you can take me off the ticket, or I'm going or I'm going to do a 20 minute talk off the top of my head. I'm happy to do it. I can do it. I've done it before. But realize that the talk that I told you I was going to give I'm not going to because it's totally an absolutely irrelevant, based on the evening that we've just we've just done and I ended up sitting there talking for 20 minutes. And other people told me I nailed it. That's that's other people's choices, whether whether I did or I didn't Sure. But if if if I hadn't changed my topic right then and there. It would have almost been an embarrassment for me because it was I would have been totally an absolutely tone deaf to what the evening ended up being Michael Hingson 50:00 I had a situation many years ago where a speaker's bureau said, We want you to come and speak to the national Property Managers Association. And I said, What are they? Oh, they're the people that rent apartments and stuff like that. And we want you to come. And it was a very relevant speech to give because we had just moved from an apartment, or a house that we had to another house elsewhere for a job. And so we gave our house to a property manager to manage until we could get it sold. So I went off, and I got down there, but I got there very late at night, before I was to give a breakfast speech. And I got up that morning and went down. And there was this really great breakfast, actually. And I was sitting there listening to people and I went, Wait a minute, this doesn't sound like what I was told. And so I said to somebody, you don't just help me out. I'd like to, and I don't even know for sure whether they knew I was the speaker or not. But they probably did. And I said, What is the national Property Managers Association, a worthy organization in the Federal Government that manages anything physical that the government owns? Oh, my God, totally different, needless to say, as diametrically opposed as they could be. But I had done various things like created GSA schedules for companies and I had been involved in government contracts, especially the fun part is with organizations that if I told you anything about them, even today, you would be the late Ben Baker, and you would disappear and nobody would know about you anymore. But I literally, as they would say, pivoted on a dime. And it went very well. And I got to talk about other kinds of things. And fortunately, I had the experience to do that. And I think that as speakers, we should be able to do that. Ben Baker 52:00 I agree. But also, we it is, in our best interest as speakers to sit down a couple of weeks ahead of time, with not with the speaker's bureau that's high for you. But with the actual event organizer, right and sit there and say, How can I help you shine to your audience? Exactly. Well, how can we make this relevant to the people that are in the room? Tell me who's in the room. Tell me about the conference. Tell me about what your goals of the conference are? What do you want people to walk away knowing? Why do you want them to come back next year, and be able to have all that information at your fingertips. So you can craft a talk, that not only is as relevant to the people in the audience, but it also makes the organizers who hire you and are paying you, you know, a lot of money, make sure that they shine. And that and that, to me is a critical part of being a great keynote speaker. Michael Hingson 52:59 And the other thing that I love to do is to say I if if I'm not the first person on the agenda, I'd like to come in a day early and listen to some of the other speakers and so on, because I'll learn a lot from them. And invariably, if that's the case, or if I'm not the first speaker of the day, I will listen to speakers before me who have said things that allowed me to add more value into the presentation that I'm going to give. Ben Baker 53:28 Absolutely. My attitude is I tell this to organizations hire me, I said, Look, you're hiring me for the weekend. You're hiring me for three days, right? I am happy to come in, I will do a keynote. I will do a meet and greets we can we get at your VIPs come in. And we can do you know we could do a book signing with my book if you want. And I'm also willing to do a workshop. Why don't we Why don't you bring me in for three or four events, we'll we'll get you a group price for everything. And therefore we can make sure that you get the best value out of this as possible. Michael Hingson 54:01 I can absolutely do the same thing. Ben Baker 54:04 Yeah. And that way you can be integral to that you're not just somebody that arrives 15 minutes before you're you know, they do a slight you'll do a slipshod soundcheck, you'll jump on stage, do your thing and then be in a cab heading to the airport as soon as the events over. Yeah, and there's a lot of keynotes to do that. Michael Hingson 54:24 I know. I just don't like to do that. I like to as I said, I learned I get to learn. And I've also said if you know of other people, a lot of times we will do keynote speeches, inspirational speeches, and I've said look if you know other people that need a speaker, cuz sometimes people will say, well, we can't afford your price. I said well, and let's figure out how we add somebody else into the mix. If you've got donors or if you know of a school or whatever that might need a speaker. Let's figure out other things that I can do while I'm there because I come I want to come and spend whatever time you need me to do that. also helps a lot. Ben Baker 55:01 Oh, exactly. It's about finding ways, whether this is a keynote, whether it's being a leader, whether it's being somebody who works in an organization, understanding how to help other people succeed. Because when you can sit there and say, How can I make you succeed, they're going to help you succeed. Michael Hingson 55:20 Tell me about your books, if you would Ben Baker 55:22 share, I've written two books, and they couldn't be more diametrically opposed. The first book I wrote was called powerful personal brands, a hands on Guide to Understanding yours. And I wrote that in 2018. And it really, truly is a workbook for personal branding. What I found is I do volunteer at a couple of the major universities, and I teach people personal branding, networking skills, and also how to interview and I sit there he says, okay, so what are you guys doing in order to build your own personal brand, because a lot of these kids are extremely smart, and they're horrible at articulating their own value. It's part of being young, you know, it just I'm sure I was nowhere near as good as 2530 years ago, as I am doing it today. It's experience. And none of them had a book that they really liked. And I said, All right, I'm going to try to find new one. I couldn't find one. So I wrote it. And it was it was a wonderful experience. The book, not only does it tell stories from my life lessons that I learned, but at the end of every chapter, what I do is I ask a question, and I leave two pages of blank lines for people to write their own ideas. And that was what the book is about. During COVID. I ended up doing 16 part, podcast series with a friend of mine, by the name of Claire Chandler. And it was all we were lamenting about the fact that nobody was thinking about what's next. Everybody was sitting there at the beginning of COVID, with their hands on their knees, rocking back and forth and says, Don't, don't look at me, don't talk to me, because I just don't know what I'm doing. And I'm, I'm terrified to death. And I can't make a decision. Fine. I understand all that. But people in leadership need to be able to sit there and say, Okay, here's where we are, this is where we need to go. It may change, but give people the confidence to know that there's there is light at the end of the tunnel. So we wrote a book called leading beyond the crisis. And actually what it was it was the podcast. And what we did is we took that podcast interviews, we transcribed them, edited them and turn them into a he said she said type book. And it really is not written for COVID. But it's sit there going Listen, throughout our lives, we're going to have crisis's. Whether it's your building, burning down, whether it's a financial crisis, whether it's, you know, whether it's it's COVID, or some other type of medical emergency, we're all going to run into situations within our businesses that are going to be a crisis. The question is, how do you deal with it? And how do you instill the confidence in people to sit there and say, Look, I don't have all the answers. I don't know exactly where we're going. But this is the direction we're gonna go tomorrow. And if tomorrow comes and we go, well, we didn't make it. We didn't go exactly where we want to go. Let's reevaluate, figure out what we did wrong, figure out what we did, right? And then move forward from there. So those are what my books tend to be about. Michael Hingson 58:31 Did you self publish? Or Ben Baker 58:33 what I did I self published both of them. Cool. Yeah. Amazon is my friend. Michael Hingson 58:39 Yes. Kindle Direct Publishing these days, Kindle Direct Ben Baker 58:43 Publishing my book is available through Ingram Spark and Amazon. And with that is pretty much available in every every bookstore in the world, we Michael Hingson 58:53 bookstore in the world. Yeah, that anybody can order, which is all that that really matters. And they do. Well, and what more can you ask for? Exactly. So change is is all around us is that the only true constant in the world? That's my Ben Baker 59:09 attitude. My attitude is that change is truly the only constant. It doesn't matter where we are, things are going to change. They're gonna get better, they may get worse. They may go, the sky may go from blue to black to gray. But it's it's going to the sun's going to come out again. And we all need to realize that the world is in flux. There's, there's all sorts of things we can control. Most things we can't. And we have to sit there and say, Okay, these are the things I can control. These are the things I can't, how do we how do we mitigate or risk based on that? And how do we move forward and how do we be successful based on the situations we find ourselves in today? And knowing that tomorrow with different information with this different circumstances, we may have to change. And we have to be ready to embrace that. Michael Hingson 1:00:06 Well, we know the sun is going to come out tomorrow, except there is such a thing as the day that we have a supernova. So just saying Ben Baker 1:00:17 the world Sunday, the world will implode. Michael Hingson 1:00:19 And you know, we don't have control over that. So why worry about it? Ben Baker 1:00:22 I can't control it. So why worry about it? Michael Hingson 1:00:26 Exactly right. We I was having a discussion with a colleague this morning, we're writing a book, I may have mentioned it called a guide dogs Guide to Being brave, talking about fear, and so on. And we were talking about normal this morning, and how everyone wants to always get back to normal. With COVID, we have got with COVID, we want to get back to normal. For me, I really started getting frustrated with that after September 11, when people started saying we want to get back to and we got to get back to normal. And it took me a little while to realize why I reacted so vehemently to that. Normal would never be the same again, we can't get back to normal, there is something to be said for entropy, right? Once you open a can of worms, you can only put the worms back in a bigger can. And and normal would never be the same again. Ben Baker 1:01:19 Well, I look at this as I remember when we when we bought this house 20 years ago. And we you know, my wife said, Okay, I want to do this renovation, I want to do this renovation, okay. And she This is why I want to renovate the master bathroom because the master bathroom had carpet all the way up to the top and carpet, your carpet in the bathroom. Whew, wow. Okay, and the people in front before us owned a dog. They owned a very large dog. And supposedly they paid the dog in that tub. I told my wife, I said, Look, I can tell you that this is going to cost you this, this is going to cost you this. This is going to cost you this. When it comes to the bathroom. I have not a clue. It says until we tear up the carpet. And we expect the floor. I have no idea if this is a $10,000 fix or a $30,000 fix. Because you don't know until you start banging walls and stuff. And ripping, ripping off drywall. You have no idea what's behind what's behind those closed those closed walls, right? And you have to be prepared to sit there go, okay. We're in it. We're in the fire store. We've we've we've destroyed the drywall and we've we've put it in a dumpster and we've sent it away. We have bare walls. Okay, we're dealing with some wood rot. Okay, what do we do now? It's not like, it's not like they can go back, get that old drywall, put it back up on the wall and forget about it. We have to deal with what's in front of you. And you have to sit there and say, You know what, one way or the other, we'll figure it out. And we'll and we will survive and we will thrive. And I think maybe what we need to be as a society. Michael Hingson 1:03:08 It may affect your budget, but I'm gonna fix it. So what did you do with the carpet? Oh, the Ben Baker 1:03:13 carpet blue carpet went in the garbage. You know, the carpet went in the garbage. We you know, we tiled the entire thing and luckily enough, the Tongue Groove floor underneath was was still good. Good. You know, I didn't I didn't have to pull out all the tongue and groove. I didn't have I didn't have wood rod I didn't have you know, that's floor joists that needed to be replaced. You know, it was it was a $12,000 fix. It wasn't a $30,000 fix. It was within tolerances of budget. Michael Hingson 1:03:42 I'm actually very surprised because the floor being carpeted, and they bathing a dog and then bringing the dog out over carpeted floor where there's a lot of splashing, you would think it would could have been a lot worse. You were very fortunate. Ben Baker 1:03:55 We were extremely fortunate. And I looked at it and said okay, but we have the attitude going in that it's going to be what it's going to be we're tearing up the carpet regardless. Yeah. And the worst it's going to do is it's going to cost us a little extra money and a little bit more time. So where do you guys live? We live in Richmond BC up in Canada. We are. It's a suburb of Vancouver, just so the airport. Michael Hingson 1:04:24 So floors can be a little cold on the feet in the winter, but you know, that's fine. Exactly. But we built this house back in 2016. And we just use luxury vinyl tile. All of it is floating so it's not glued down. My wife in her wheelchair, rollover it very well. We haven't broken any tiles, but it makes for a much more convenient environment becau
Hello to the ghost and ghouls listening in to our podcast!! This episode was highly requested by our listeners! Today we're diving into Queen Persephone - The Greek Queen of the Underworld and Goddess of Spring and the many misconceptions we have been seeing about her on the internet. We're diving into these questions today: Does Persephone pre-date Hades? Was she actually found in Mycenae? What's the difference between the Greek and Roman Gods? Why we can't 100% say they are the same? Were the Greek Gods recorded earlier than classical Greece? Ten is an archaeologist and dives into what she knows to be true with sources for you to use and evidence that leads us to a few different conclusions! Don't forget to like, subscribe and rate our podcast! Styx and Bones Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/styxandbonespodcast/ Shop the Metaphysical Shop: https://www.crystalmoonclarity.com/evoking-the-shop Evoking the Shop Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/evokingtheshop/ Music by LiteSaturation --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/evoking-cmc/support
Subterranean Realms is a unique book that surveys underground and rock cut structures created in the past. It is the third book in Mutton's trilogy on mysterious realms, the others being Sunken Realms and Water Realms. We know who built some of these astonishing and mysterious structures, but others were built by unknown civilizations in prehistory for reasons that are debated among researchers. Some subterranean structures may have been built for initiation ceremonies or perhaps for acoustic reasons, or both. Mutton discusses such interesting sites as: Derinkuyu, an underground city in Cappadocia, Turkey that housed 20,000 people; Roman catacombs of Domitilla; Palermo Capuchin catacombs; Alexandria catacombs; Paris catacombs; Maltese hypogeum; Rock-cut structures of Petra; Treasury of Atreus, Mycenae; Elephanta Caves, India; Lalibela, Ethiopia; Tarquinia Etruscan necropolis; Hallstatt salt mine; Beijing air raid shelters; Japanese high command Okinawa tunnels; more. There are tons of illustrations in this fascinating book!Karen Mutton is a retired ancient history teacher, author, lecturer, world traveller and mother of three. She has written five books on ancient history and finance. Subterranean Realms is part of her “Realms” series, after Sunken Realms and Water Realms. Residing in Australia with her husband, daughter and cat, she enjoys researching, writing, socializing with family and friends as well as travelling to foreign countries to appreciate their culture and history. She lives in Sydney.
Homer - The Odyssey - Episode 1 - Greek Gods, Greek Heroes And One of The Oldest Epic Poems Of All Time! Hi, I'm Christy Shriver and we're here to discuss books that have changed the world and have changed us. And I'm Garry Shriver and this is the How to Love Lit Podcast. This week we embark on a seafaring adventure across the seas and through time to the ancient world of the Greeks to meet someone who some have said is the greatest poet to have ever lived- Homer- and his second epic- The Odyssey. To be honest, I think I agree with that assessment. That's high praise. How does one get to that level? I know. It really is. I guess, one way of looking at it may be attrition- how many poets do we still read from 3000 years ago. That's not a large club. We certainly don't have anyone in the English language canon that is competitive, but it's more than Homer basically invented the coming of age novel with the Telemachaie; he invented the flawed hero, as I choose to understand Odysseus. In many ways, his epics, although they are poems, are pre-runners to modern day novels. They are pre-cursors to fantasy. Heck, even the success of the Marvel movies to me suggest a thinly veiled nod to Homer. What is Superman or Wonder Woman if not demi-gods? Well, if I may weigh in, although I don't feel even remotely qualified to suggest someone is the greatest poet to have ever lived, but what impresses me the most is the level of psychological and archetypal insights into the nature of man that crosses through culture. Of course, I've heard of a lot of the characters and several of the stories, but I was impressed by how relatable Odysseus is. And although so many of his adventures at sea are fantastical- they feel like hyperbolic expressions of what I go through- For example, what is Scylla and Charybdis if not being caught between a rock and a hard place? Another thing that fascinates me is the order he wrote them in- at least the order as we think them- the first one, The Iliad, and then some years later, as an older man, The Odyssey. That's also psychologically interesting- The Iliad has its version of a hero- Achilles is idealistic, proud in large and obvious way, self-righteous, vindictive even. It's young man's idea of heroism versus The Odyssey and its version of heroism- a much more nuanced. He also gets revenge, but it's slow and not very reactionary- he plots, he lies, he bides his time- things we learn by life beating the hound out of us. I think that is well said. Studying Homer for me is also very intimidating historically. There is so much history and culture- beyond just the language differences just between my world and Homer's- 2600 years- give or take. The language is different. The culture is different. The geography and the religion are literally worlds and worlds away, and I'm not very confident I can understand the context. And if that weren't scary enough, when you realize that Homer may have been describing events that may have preceded him by perhaps another 400- 1000 years or so, depending on who you believe- I just get lost in the math. I might as well be saying, “A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away…”. It's foreign and mysterious. Lizzy asked me today as I was sitting on my computer reading some research on the Mycenaens what book I was working on and I said, “Research for ‘Homer's The Odyssey'” – to which she replied, “Sounds boring.” And Lizzy listens to our podcasts!! But on the screen of my computer were broken pieces of pottery and archeological data, not super-man and wonderwoman. Ha! Well, if you can't guilt-trip your family members into listening to you, even if you are boring, what hope do you have? But, I totally understand where she's coming from, over the years, I've taught a lot of history from US to Europe to World, and the Ancient World, and I love it. I will admit, though, even though a lot can be fascinating with the ancients, there's no doubt the farther back in time you go, it can be very difficult to conceptualize. It is also a lot more guesswork. Ancient Greece feels far away because it IS far away, and often we don't know what we're looking at when we see it. I hate to keep coming back to the arrogance of the present, but we really have to guard against looking at ancient peoples as primitive thinkers just because their technologies were not advanced. I mean, honestly, which of us could survive one week on an island? I think Survivor has proven that that's not happening. Ha! Those people always lose so much weight! Survivor also proves that the most cunning and deceptive you are- Odysseus style, the more likely you are to survive, but getting back to the historical side of it. Did the Trojan war really happen? And if it did, what was it? That's a great question. For years and years, even centuries- the greatest minds said no. If Troy existed, we would know it. And just for context, in case you are unfamiliar with the story, the story goes that there was a woman, today we call her Helen of Troy, but she wasn't Trojan, she was Greek, and she ran away with a young lover- named Paris- to a city called Troy across the ocean. Her sister's husband, King Agamemnon, launched 1000 ships and all the Greek kings and heroes to get her back for her husband Menelaus. The war to get Helen back took ten years before the Greeks were finally able to penetrate the wall, theoretically using a gigantic horse and a gimmick devised by Odysseus. The story goes that Odysseus and a few others hid inside this gigantic horse. Everyone else hid and pretended to return to Greece. They left the horse there claiming that it was a gift to the god, Poseidon. The Trojans brought the horse inside the gate, Odesseus came out, unlocked the gate and the Greeks sacked the city. For forever, no one thought this place even existed with any real certainty. We couldn't find it. Until an outrageous and bombastic but exceedingly wealthy amateur self-proclaimed archeologist by the name of Heinrich Schliemann set out to find it in the 1860s and actually did. Outrageous and bombastic sounds kind of like code for a schmuck? Well, he did have a few personal issues as well as professional ones. For one thing, he wasn't trained in archeology, so he just went around blasting everything he saw – to the point that- Historian Kenneth Harl has said that Schliemann's excavations did to Troy what the Greeks couldn't do, destroy and level the city walls to the ground. Oh no, that's terrible. Well, it really is and he destroyed a lot of history. He wanted so badly to get to the jewels belonging to Helen of Troy that he actually blasted through the actual walls of the city. But, that being said, there is something to the fact, that he actually found the walls of the city and was something no one had done before him. He found tons of gold and all kinds of very important things- he claimed his loot belonged to people like King Priam and Agamemnon including a very important solid gold. One of the most famous is still called The Mask of Agamennon. This, of course, has mostly been debunked by actual archeologists who know how to properly date archeological finds, but that being said, he found stuff that is real and validated many of the events referenced by Homer, albeit in myth form. And if you ever have the opportunity to visit Athens, you can see the mask of Agamennon in the National Archeological Museum. Anyway, The best historical sources we have suggest that the Trojan war actually happened and took place around 1183 BC. Not everyone is willing to say it lasted ten years or that was fought on the scale the Homer describes with thousands of ships, but we now believe it did happen. Well, we are less likely to believe it was sparked by petty gods and goddesses and fought by demi-gods fathered by goddesses who dip their children in magical rivers that make them mostly immortal. But I will say, I wish they would find a mask of Helen. I would love to see what the uncontested most beautiful woman in human history, daughter of Zeus. True, Christy, there is so much I don't know about all the myths of the gods and goddesses, and before I started researching for this podcast seris, honestly, I thought the story of the Illiad was the story of the Greeks sacking Troy. I have to admit I got my information from the movie Brad Pitt made called Troy. There are so many gods and goddesses and furies and nymphs and creatures and shapeshifters. It's overwhelming. True, the Illiad ends with the death and funeral of the Trojan hero, Hector, and his father very sadly begging for his body and returning it home- not the sack of Troy. In other words, the Greeks haven't won. That's a story you get from other places. The Odyssey references the Trojan horse when Telemachus goes to visit his father's old war buddies, but there is not a Homeric version of the Brad Pitt movie. I was disappointed to find that out myself. Speaking of things that have proven disappointing about Homer, One of those things is that we don't know him or even if there IS a him. I know this is controversial and not universally accepted, but I will say from the get-go, that I am of the persuasion that Homer was an actual person who actually composed both pieces. Although I'm sure there was a collection of traditional myths, like we saw with the Iroquois confederacy that were passed down orally from generation to generation, I believe that there was a man named Homer who drew from the myths kind of like Shakespeare did in our English tradition from popular stories he knew people recognized, and he composed his own pieces- one being the Iliad- where he doesn't retell the entire story of the war, but focuses on one hero and one aspect of it- and the other being the Odyssey- where he again focuses on one person. Obviously I'm not an archeologist or a university professor with a degree in classical studies and I'm not prepared or qualified to argue with anyone who is. But, I've read enough from those who are to convince me of that. Do we know anything about Homer at all, assuming as you do, that he existed? Not really- to be honest. Most traditions claim that he was blind, although I can't find any real compelling reason for that belief except there's a blind poet named Demodacus in the Odyssey that sings at the court of the Phaeacian king- which I wouldn't think means anything at all, except that the ancients themselves took it for something- so if they believed it, maybe it was so. Oh, This is interesting, there is one tradition that believes Homer was a woman- based in large part to the prominence Homer gives women in the text- that's my favorite theory, but a minority view for sure. No ancient scholars were making that claim. Tradition, and by tradition, we're talking about a couple thousand of years- so that's a long time for a tradition to develop- but traditional views consider him to have been a male bard, or what today we call a professional singer/songwriter. No one really knows where he's from. Although, at least seven different places claim him; the most convincing arguments, at least for me, suggest he came from islands that are actually closer to Turkey then mainland Greece- more specifically the island Chios which is in the Aegean sea but close to Smyrna, modern day Izmir. But maybe he came from Ios or Cyme. If you are not all that well acquainted with the geography of the Mediterranean Sea or the Aegean ocean, I'll try to create a mini-map in your mind's eye. Think of the big Mediterranean sea being a like a giant lake, and mainland Greece jets kind of halfway between Turkey and Italy with all of these scattered islands everywhere that go with it. So, the part of the water that is between Greece and Turkey we call the Aegean Sea. I don't want to oversimplify to people who know their maps, but, I've learned over the last couple of years, it's harder for those of us who use GPS all the time to see the world in terms of maps, the way we old-schoolers used to have to do all the time- no disrespect. I definitely love my GPS over a paper map- but there's the trade-off. I guess a good linked-in question might be, do we need maps anymore? Anyway, Ancient Troy or modern day Hissarlik is on the north side of this inlet. If you go down about 120 towards the Mediterranean you run into Chios and Smyrna. Both of these places are about 158 miles across the ocean from Athens. So, today, by modern standards they don't take long to get from one to the other, but obviously if you make the gods make, like Odysseus did, it can take up to 10 years. But, Garry, beyond the geography of Greece being so different from other parts of the world because it's so based around a culture of the sea, I have trouble understanding the different periods- the Bronze Age, the Iron Age, all that stuff. Can you give us a two minute crash course? Sure, well we usually call what you're talking about this age of the early Greek glory years where they built the big palaces with the gigantic walls with the gods and heroes that were larger than life- the Mycenaean civilization- and the dates for that, generally speaking, are between 1650-1200 BC. We really don't think of the Myceans as having a writing system like we think of today- they likely had some ways of using script perhaps to mark things for business, but the culture and stories were passed down by an oral tradition. The most important city-states, at least this is what we think today, were some of the ones we see in the Odyssey for example Mycenae was home to the legendary King Agamemnon and Pylos was the home of King Nestor. All of these city states worshiped the same gods and spoke the same language, but politically, they had different kings. Kings had to be strong. Piracy was a way of life and not even considered immoral. We think today that these people were highly aggressive and warlike amongst themselves as well as against outsiders. They also made their armor out of Bronze- hence the Bronze Age. So, back to the Iliad, Helen, the most beautiful woman in the world, was the queen of Sparta. If we referring back to your little mental map- Sparta, Mycenae and Pylos are on the other side of mainland Greece- the side closer to Italy. The ruins from those cities show big walls and lots of wealth. Sparta is about 300 or so miles across the sea, pass the mainland and into the Aegean Ocean. This would have been the warpath to Troy but honestly, we really don't know what happened and that is not even just about this particular war. We don't know for sure what happened to any of these towns. What we do know is something devastasted all of these beautiful city states. They were burned to the ground and whatever happened caused this area to fall into a period called the Dark Age- because we know nothing about it. Almost the only thing we really know is that during the Dark Age, there was a transition from Bronze weapons to the much stronger Iron ones. The big changes and the big cultural movement that shaped the world- at least the Western world- like we think of today comes out of the next period- the one following the Dark Age. We call this one the Archaic period which we consider to be from 800-500BC. This era as well as the next are where we get things we're familiar with like the Olympics, the new sophisticated writing system- the Greek alphabet- democracy- like we associate with Athens. And to make things even more confusing, the big Greek guys that we think of- like Plato and Aristotle and the “Golden Age” do not coincide with Homer- they come much later. So, it's a lot of history- for us on the American continent who are mostly immigrants from other parts of the world- be it Europe, Africa or Asia, it's more than we can really even conceptualize- our entire nation as we understand it as a nation is less than 250 years old. If we add what we know of the Indigenous people like the Iroquois confederacy into our timeline -we still fall short by thousands of years- Dekcadeakoah wasn't born til 1200 AD, at least that's our best guess. So- there's your historical context in the two minute nutshell. Does that work? Well of course, so- to summarize even more Homer, a man who comes this Archaic period 8th century BC, was writing about people who claimed lived during the Mycenaean civilization a full 400 before his life time- so if we want to give Odysseus, the man, an age- he's like 3000 plus years old- Like I said before- for me it is basically “A long time ago in an galaxy far far away”...and yet…it's not… I want to start out by reading the first page of Fagle's translation- and then let's jump into the story itself- because for me-and I mean to disrespect to history- you know I love history- but I think you will agree with me- that it's not the history of this story that has kept it around for 3000 years. It's not the religion; it's not the culture. Homer writes the story of our lives- all of our lives- and we keep coming back to it generation after generation for that reason. Read page 77 Okay- Christy- I think there's one more thing I think we need to clarify- there are so many translations. Does it matter? Well, I think the answer to that is the same if you ask that question about translations of the Bible- whichever you like personally-- which I may add- if you want to compare when Odysseus lived with Biblical characters, Moses arguably lived about 200 years before Odysseus-my best guess from my looking at the most respected timelines for each of these guys – but I stand to be corrected -if you have an article that parallels the two histories, I'd love to see it- email it over. The more important point- and in some sense this is true for any text- but it is especially true for ancient texts- it's not the nuance of the language that matters really at all. It's the essence of the ideas of the stories- the universal truths. Most of the millions who read these stories every year can't read the original Greek. And although those that can really talk about the beauty of all that- that part is lost on us. It's not the translation that is going to make or break the story. The Rouse translation, which, by the way, is the one we used when I taught this text to freshmen in Wynne Arkansas, was the first one I knew and the only one I knew for a really long time. I really like it because I know it. But, the knock on it is that it's prose and the Odyssey was not written in prose. It's by far one of the lesser respected ones today. A lot of people today prefer Robert Fagle's translation because his book is really easy to read but he tries to make it sound like poetry. Well, for the record, I am using Rouse's translation. I picked up Fagles, but I ended up preferring Rouse's because I wanted to read the story in prose instead of verse, for me that's easier. But just so I know, Christy, assuming we were Greek and could understand this as it was originally composed what would it be like. Good question- not that anyone knows for sure- but the general understanding is that it was written in meter- dactylic hexameter to be exact. DAH -duh-duh- One accented syllable with two unaccented syllables in a row and then each line would have six of these. Now, this is just me, but I really compare these ancient bards to modern day rap artists. The Bards that would go around singing these stories- would improvise- but would use the beat to kind of keep them on course- obviously it didn't sound like rap, but it's the same skill that we see rap artists do when they improvise and you wonder- how can they think of all those rhymes? Well, the trick is to already have little phrases in your mind that you know will make your lines work. In the case of the Greek bards, they would have these epithets, or phrases they would use to describe the names of different gods- these lines that keep repeating throughout- would help them keep up with the demands of the meter. So what does that mean- that means when you hear them say, as we will “Bright-eyed Athena”- he's adding syllables to make the meter work. If that makes sense. So, the descriptions don't necessarily mean that her eyes are the most important thing about her- it's just to make the music work? That's it exactly. The thinking is we aren't supposed to read too much into those kinds of things. Also, the bards themselves used a very specialized vocabulary which was a mixture of different Greek dialects in order to make it all work. This is a tangent, but it's kind of interesting, there was a classical linguist named Milman Parry who really wanted to figure out how in the world Homer could memorize so many lines. You know the Odyssey has over 12,000 lines. Well, Parry, by studying modern day illiterate singer/songwriters in Bosnia. He came to believe that Homer didn't memorize anything- he had these patterns, these phrases and names of the gods that he knew rhymed well and fit the pattern and he would just tell the story and improvise the language for every different audience- he'd end the lines with the phrases and patterns that rhymed. Maybe like professional comedians who do comedy improv in “Who's line is it anyway?” So, in my mind, a Greek bard is something between a cross between a rap artist and modern day improv comedian. HA! Well, there's some creative analogies, but I get it. Honestly, the idea of improvising makes it cooler than if Homer just wrote a piece of writing and then just read/chanted/sang the same thing over and over again. As a musician, it reminds me of what Jazz musicians do or even bands in general. You know, and this is really going to sound nerdy, but every once in a while, I have some buddies that I've known from years ago- we all went to the same church at one time- but many have moved out of Memphis- but we get together about once a year and do something like this. We'll go to a friend's house with our instruments, bring up some good ole' rock and roll music that we like and just improvise. We all know the songs, but the specific variations, solos- that sort of thing- will be just be stuff that we make up. Parry thought a Homer show was exactly that- every time he performed The Odyssey it was totally new. But again, this is all total speculation- no one knows. It's just too long ago. So- having said that, back to the question you asked, for most of our purposes none of this stuff really matters- the translation doesn't matter, that Homer may or may not even have been a person, or a male or a person with vision who wrote with letters at all- or that the text itself may not even have been a fixed text or a story with improvised performances- all of those things- all though interesting- are really not the reason we love these stories and teach them in the ninth grade- at least around here. It's this Homeric universe- this fantastical story- this hyperbolic creation that has magnified the human experience. Homer gave us a new way to conceptualize our world- and a way to feel about the events- both controllable and uncontrollable that plague our lives. Every once in a while, someone shows up in the world that can produce such a space. In some ways we could say that Tolkien did this with Middle Earth, that JK Rowling did it, that CS Lewis did it, even George Lucas did it- each of those artists conceptualize entirely new and different universes- and when we spend time in their work- whatever medium we use- can inhabit that universe. We can understand our world better through their world- it's fantasy. So, Homer was the first that we know of to do this at the scale in which he did. This is not to say that there are not legends and stories that predate him- there most certainly are- but they don't exist, that I know of, in this full length single unit form- not like what we have with Homer. But yet, there is more to it than even that, although that is quite a feat. Homer defined reality for a large number of people for centuries- maybe even still- and I'm not sure those other writers that I just listed out can say that. The Greeks for hundreds of years, were able to ground their reality on the backs of the principles, morals, the world view that was laid out in his work- The Illiad and The Odyssey. It helped people answer basic questions like- how do I conduct myself in the world. Let's look at those first lines again and go through them- “Sing to me of the man, Muse, the man of twists and turns driven time and again off course, once he had plundered the hallowed heights of Troy.” Christy, is Homer telling us his entire story in the first lines. Yes- of course he is- first of all, I do want to point out that Homer does not take credit for his story. He is going to say it was given to him from a Muse. That's interesting and really Jungian- so, I'll let you speak to that since that's your cup of tea- Ha! Well, he's basically saying, it's not that he made up the story- but he found the story or the story found him-the Muse is the originator- the idea being that the story existed before him in some larger context- that there is something here greater than he is. And of course, all religious traditions speak to this reality, but since you referenced Jung, so does psychology. There is something greater… and that is his starting point. Exactly, and then he brings up why we love Odysseus- he was a man of twist and turns. You know James Joyce who wrote that incredibly complicated masterpiece Ulysses was asked why he wrote his masterpiece about Odysseus- Ulysses is the Roman way to say Odysseus- and he famously responded that he was the only complete man in literature. Odysseus, as we are going to see is a different kind of hero. In the Iliad which is the book that came first, the Achilles is a demi-god. He's perfect. He is totally beautiful, totally powerful, totally honest- that is something he took pride in. He never had to lie, he never had to back down- he was bigger and stronger and could overpower anyone. That's not Odysseus- he was amazing- for sure. But he wasn't the absolute biggest- he had to rely on lies- he sacked cities but he also got sacked himself- he had twist and turns- and for two reasons- on the one hand, the gods had agendas that had nothing to do with him that affected his world, but also he, himself, made choices that steered him way off course. Odysseus is a hero- for sure- he definitely gets all the women- haha- if you want to look at it that way- but he's the kind of hero- we as mere mortals might aspire to be. His life didn't turn out the way he wanted it, but he still wins at life- and actually he gets to make choices that allow him to live the kind of life he ultimately figures out he wants for himself. Exactly- and Homer shows us how to make that happen. In this Homeric universe that is safely far away- full of monsters and goddesses and magic- we can test drive some of the things we'd like to do if we could. In this magical place we see consequences for things like running your mouth when maybe you shouldn't. But we can get some good ideas at how to get back when we're being exploited- ways that are smarter than just running our mouth. Maybe by watching Odysseus we can get ideas about how to correct the course of our personal odyssey, we can figure out success that looks like for ourselves in our mundane realities. At least, that's the idea. And yet, Christy, it is magical and otherworldly with characters we don't know. I'll just be honest, as a person who doesn't know a lot about mythology, am I going to get confused the farther into this I read? So far, so good, but I'll admit I haven't finished the whole thing yet. Again, back to Homer's brilliance- the answer is NO. Homer is going to build a pantheon of gods that is manageable and knowable. And this is brilliant. Just like other polytheistic faiths there are hundreds of gods in the Greek pantheon- but how do you wrap your brain around 600 or so? Homer is going to reduce it to a few- the Olympians. He's going to create a hierarchy we can understand and he's going to personalize the gods so that we can know them. As we read the story, we meet them little by little. We learn who they are, what they value, how they operate- and of course- how we appease them and stay out of trouble. First and foremost- we meet Zeus- he's the chief, the god of the sky- protector and father of all the other gods and humans. We're also going to learn an important principle, that will explain a lot about life- both to us and the ancients- there are things that are in the hands of the gods, but there are also things that are in our control. We can control what we can control but then there are times we can strive hard and still meet disaster. Sometimes, we have offended the gods; sometimes they just like us- sometimes we are just victims of happenstance. Yes- exactly- and how do we account for that? Let's keep reading… Page 78 So, we met Zeus- he's the god of the sky- now we get to meet Poseidon- he's the god of the sea- he's Zeus' brother, but he is way more unpredictable and volatile- hence the behavior of the sea. The big three are Zeus, Poseidon and Hades- God of the Sky, God of the Sea and God of the underworld. We meet all three in the Odyssey- and in some sense, this brings order to a universe. There are powers out there- things we can't see but that determine our fate- but are also arbiters of justice. There is also a spiritual battlefield- spirits- invisible forces, however you want to understand the world- energy forces larger than our own humanity can see through our natural senses- there is a story that is larger than our story, but we play a part. Sometimes we are just a speck in humanity, but other times we are not invisible, even to these larger forces. Of course, as we think through this, although, not many of us adopt Greek mythology as our spiritual worldview, there is a lot there, that most of the world still accepts as truth- even if you're a monotheist. Exactly- those are the major big boys- but there are a few others that we're going to meet. We meet Hermes pretty quickly and we quickly understand his role in the role- he is a messenger. He's Zeus' son, but not with his wife, Hera. Zeus is always getting in trouble with his wife because he has fidelity issues. But Hermes, as we will quickly learn is in charge of messages. After we meet the men, we will slowly meet some of the important women of Olympus. The first one here is probably my favorite goddess- Athena, she might be everyone's favorite goddess. She's a virgin, not controlled by a man, ha- but a goddess of both wisdom and war. She's awesome. I don't know that she's everybodies- Aphrodite has fans. Yeah- you're right- but she's a trouble-maker. Aphrodite makes you like fall madly in love with someone you know is no good for you- or be sexually compelled to do behave improperly. Some would say that's low impulse control. Yes- but those would not be the ancient Greeks. They would say it's Aphrodite's fault- you are listening to her- that was Helen of Troy's problem. But back to Athena Athena seems she likes Odysseus. She DOES!! And that's how Odysseus wins. Someone is watching over him and he is sensitive to her leading. Athena is the goddess of wisdom, and Odysseus is attuned to this sense of wisdom in the universe. She speaks to him, guides him, and most importantly, Athena enables Odysseus to always keep his cool. Odysseus, we will see, with a few exceptions, is led by wisdom- not by lust, not by uncontrollable rage- by god-given wisdom. Seeing people as being visited by outside forces that inspire them one way or the other is not a bad way of understanding why people are the way they are- even if you don't believe in gods and goddesses- which for the record, I don't personally, but this is my understanding of the ancient Greek worldview. In the Homeric Universe, men and women are led by one god or goddess for the most part- not by a variety of different ones. We mentioned that Helen of Troy is attune to Aphrodite, the goddess of sexual love- that's who's giving her direction. But Odysseus is attuned and sensitive to Athena. Athena takes credit not for Odysseus' strength, although he is strong, not for his ability with a bow and arrow, which we'll see he's pretty good at that too, but she takes credit for his wisdom. The Odyssey is a story of this collaboration- there are things that we can't control, but there are things we can, and if we control the things we can, the universe, a goddess or someone outside of ourselves can and will intervene on our behalf with grace and kindness. It's a way to organize our thinking about how the universe works- a very old way of thinking about how the universe works. Let's quote Zeus here- again from the Fagles translation- as he explains the responsibility of humans- at this point in the story- Poseidon is out of town, so to speak- he's off in Ethiopia receiving offerings by the hundreds. And with him away, Athena will make her play to save Odysseus' life, but we also see this philosophy of the Greeks explained here in the beginning of how and why things work out the way they do. Page 78 But now let me read what Athena says back to her father= here she demonstrates the role the gods play in the destinies of man page 79- And so we have our narrative hook. The gods will intervene in the destinies of men. Calypso has been holding Odysseus hostage. Hermes is being sent with a message from the gods forcing Calypso to release Odysseus. At the same time this is happening, Athena will visit Telemachus' Odysseus' son back in their hometown, Ithaca. Telemachus was a newborn when Odysseus' left. He is now 20 years old. For ten years Odysseus fought in Troy. Then after angering Poseidon, he spent the next ten years wandering lost at sea. Telemachus has been left to be raised by his mother and a man named Mentor (guess where got that word). Anyway, there is trouble in Ithaca which we'll find out about next episode, but more importantly than that, it is time for Telemachus to take his own journey and go out into the world on his own. The Odyssey can easily be divided into three parts- the first four books are about Telemachus' journey to visit all of his father's war buddies. The second part is Odysseus wandering around the magical seas, and the third is what he finds when he gets back to Ithaca, how he finds his beautiful and faithful wife and what he sees in his palace estate. The first part, which we'll tackle. Next episode is about the coming of age from a boy to a man. After that we'll look at what all these seas trials are all about and then finally, we'll discuss some ideas about the famous finale in our finale. Well, it sounds like we have a plan. You know, the Iliad is a pretty straight forward narrative- a linear timeline and a kind of tragic ending. The Odyssey is written in circles. It's winding with endless setbacks but it has a happy ending. I think that's exactly the right way to look at it. They are both charming and enduring books but for different reasons, my book club recently just finished reading the latest take on the Iliad. Madeline Miller wrote a novel called The Song of Achilles from the perspective of Patroclus that we read and really liked, but it was sad too. If we ever analyze the Iliad, we'll get into the appeal of that book- it certainly is there- but if we just look at what's appealing the Odyssey – I think the ending is definitely a factor- many of us know what it's like to offend the gods, experience the wrath of Poseidon, maybe even the lures of Aphrodite or Circe – we've also likely been jilted by suitors or friend-enemies- as we call them nowadays- we can live vicariously through this steady under pressure goddess led hero- and maybe be inspired to face down our monsters- maybe we can even do a little listening for Athena and learn to bide our time and wreck havoc on our foes if we need to. But mostly, we all want that heart-warming reunion after a long absence with our loved-ones and own home- we want to rest in the prophecy that old Greek prophet Tiresias gave Odysseus during his visit to the underworld- that when our time comes death will steal upon us a gentle painless death, far from the seas it comes to take you down, borne down with the years in ripe old age with all your people there in blessed peace around you.”
Today I sit down with scholar Roderick Denton to discuss his new book: The Greeks. The book is available now at all the usual places, but the easiest way to find it is to go to the Basic Books website: https://www.basicbooks.com/titles/roderick-beaton/the-greeks/9781541618282/ The book covers everything from Mycenae to the more recent economic collapse in Greece during the early 2000s. In the interest of time, we focused our interview on the period of Greek history from Mycenae to the death of Constantine the Great in 337 CE. Interested in more? Check out our website at westerncivpodcast.com or become a Patron today at patreon.com/westerncivpodcast
Historian Roderick Beaton ranges over 4,000 years of Greek history, from the glories of Mycenae to the life of a modern European nation. In discussion with Rob Attar, he picks out some of the key moments in this journey, including the triumphs of ancient Greece, the conquests of Alexander the Great and the 1820s battle for independence. (Ad) Roderick Beaton is the author of The Greeks: A Global History (Faber, 2021). Buy it now from Waterstones:https://go.skimresources.com?id=71026X1535947&xcust=historyextra-social-viewingguide&xs=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.waterstones.com%2Fbook%2Fthe-greeks%2Fprofessor-prof-roderick-beaton%2F9780571353569 See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
Welcome to Episode 5 - Early Greece and the first City-States. Last time, we looked at one of the great civilizations of the ancient world - Egypt. Our modern culture was not all that directly influenced by Egypt, though you could say our modern culture was very influenced by the Israelites that came out from Egypt. It's interesting to me that a small, relatively powerless, backwater nation as Israel was for most of its existence, had such a profound effect on the western world. One could argue that it was one of the 3 most influential ancient cultures, at least as far as influencing the modern world. One of the others, not surprisingly, was Rome. We will get to Rome in due time. The other major influence on the western world was Ancient Greece. It's hard to overstate how important ancient Greece was in terms of influencing the western world. Art, government and politics, literature, philosophy, athletics, math, architecture, and worldview - all of these were hugely influenced by ancient Greece. Who is the most influential philosopher of all time? Well, it's either Socrates, Plato, or Aristotle. They were all Greek. Where did democracy originate? Greece. You could maybe argue that Rome was more influential for a longer period, but you could also argue that Rome was simply spreading Greek learning and values. Rome had its own valuable contributions, as we will see, but Greece was incredibly influential to the western world. So let's take a quick look at how it got that way. Do you where the first civilization in Europe started? It was on the island of Crete - one of the islands of the Greek archipelago. A civilization known as the Minoans began to arise there, around 2000 BC. This is just a little before Abram makes his journey out of Ur, and also just a bit before King Hammurabi of Babylon. Not much is known about the Minoan civilization, but archaeologists have found large cities, lots of fresco paintings, and lots of pottery. Archeologists have also found Minoan writing, including hieroglyphs, and a system of script writing called ‘Linear A.' So far, no one has been able to translate any of the Minoan writing, which is one reason we don't know too much about the Minoan culture. The Minoan culture seems to have begun to decline around 1600 BC, which is just about the same time that we begin to see civilization develop on mainland Greece. [recorded to here] The earliest civilization on the mainland of Greece was known as the Mycenaeans. This culture is named after one of their important cities, Mycenae. Mycenaean culture is important for a couple of reasons. Big reasons, actually. The Mycenaeans developed a culture of city-states. Why did their culture develop this way? Some of it has to do with geography.There are two distinctive features to the geography of Greece that influenced its development. First, it is a peninsula, surrounded by water on three sides, and with thousands of small islands all around it. So it was natural that the Greeks would become sailors, explorers, and traders. The inland parts of Greece, however, are rocky and mountainous, and so it was harder to develop a continuous, connected civilization. Each region developed its own government, usually centered around a main port city. These regions were called city-states. A city-state is a small nation, centered around a main central city. Each city ruled the region around it, and developed its own type of government and culture. Some of the major city-states, besides Mycenae, were Athens, Sparta, Corinth, and Argos. Each city-state had its own way of doing things, but all the Greek city-states did have some things in common: They all spoke the same language, worshipped the same gods (though each city had its patron god), and they usually banded together to fight off outsiders. They also fought each other at times.This fighting is the other reason that the Myceneans are important. One of the most famous books of all time tells the story of a great Mycenean battle. You might have heard of this one: It's called the Iliad. We're going to look at that story next time, but for now, I'll just mention that the king of Mycenaea plays a big role in that story. That was King Agamemnon, the leader of the Greek army. The Mycenaean culture was a very well-developed culture, with large cities, art, and their own form of writing. The Myceneans, in addition to being famous soldiers, were also great sailors, and their trading ships travelled all around the eastern Mediterranean Sea. They established colonies and trading posts in what is now Turkey, Lebanon, Crete, Sicily, and Italy. They were the first pan-mediterranean trading culture. In other words, they travelled all over the Mediterranean. Why is this important? They Mycenaeans were the first culture that really had contact with a lot of other cultures. They traded with cultures in Europe, including even Scandinavian cultures; they traded with Egypt, with other African cultures, with several different cultures in Asia, and maybe even Babylon. It was the beginning of all of these cultures being aware of each other, and establishing regular trade between them. But around 1200 BC, things started to fall apart. There was a long period of poor harvests, which led to famine and starvation. As the Mycenaeans got more and more desperate, they began to raid other places. There are Egyptian records of migrations and raids from a group called the Sea People. We don't know exactly who these Sea People were, but migrating Mycenaeans are the leading suspects. It's also possible that the migrating Mycenaeans became the Philistines, who ruled a sea-side culture on the coast east and north of the kingdom of Israel. In any case, Mycenaean culture seems to have petered out about 1100 BC. Many of their cities were abandoned, including Mycenaea. From about 1100 BC until about 800 BC, Greek culture went through a period where very little of written records, artifacts, or history was preserved. This is known as the Greek Dark Ages, but after about 800 BC, Greece begins a monumental comeback, which will produce one of the richest, most influential cultures of all time, and some of the most famous people the world has ever known. Next time, in episode 6, we will look more closely at the Iliad, and the story of the Trojan war.1. Usborne encyclopedia of the ancient world
Simon Bertin delves into a remarkable photography exhibition by Robert McCabe on an archaeological dig in Mycenae; Artist Sudesh Prasad explores the relationship between art and the viewer at the […]
That's great it starts with an earthquake, spears shake, a hydroplane, and Mycenae is not okay. It's the end of the Bronze Age as we know it (and I feel fine)
Matthew Bannister on Donald Rumsfeld, the US Secretary of Defense who challenged the military bureaucracy, advocated the invasion of Iraq in 2003 and was blamed for many of the failings of that operation. Menelik Shabazz, the pioneering film director who supported the careers of many other black film makers. Elizabeth French, the archaeologist who was a leading expert on the pottery of the ancient Greek city of Mycenae. Producer: Neil George Interviewed guest: Justin Webb Interviewed guest: Andrew Cockburn Interviewed guest: Joy Francis Interviewed guest: David Somerset Interviewed guest: John Bennett Archive clips used: C-SPAN 19/03/2003; CNN 02/12/2002; AP 13/05/2004; Step Forward Youth 1977 by Menelik Shabazz; Burning an Illusion 1981 by Menelik Shabazz; Blood Ah Go Run 1981 by Menelik Shabazz; Autumn Breeze Movies, Mycenaean War and Peace 24/05/2010; Introduction to Mycenaeans and Mycenaean Culture, History with Cy 21/06/2019; History Victorum, The Citadel of Mycenae 04/06/2020.
In episode 62, Maritime History covers the bathrooms and bathing options of the historic Atlantic liners compared to today's modern ships, plus a great round up of the latest cruise news.This podcast is only possible thanks to our supporters, simply buying a coffee keeps us on air. It is just like shouting your mate a coffee, and we consider our listeners close mates. https://bit.ly/2T2FYGXMSG Grandiosa restarts cruises in BarcelonaCruise NewsP&O AU & Princess extend AU cruise pause P&O Australia has cancelled its cruise holidays through 17 Dec, and Princess through 19 Dec, with both brands citing ongoing uncertainty around a pathway to resumption in the country.RCI delays final payment dateRoyal Caribbean International has suspended the final payment due date for its Australian cruises.The cruise line took similar action with Alaska cruises earlier this year, continuing to push back the final payment date until cruises got the go-ahead.However, with Australian Federal Minister for Health Greg Hunt earlier this month extending the human biosecurity emergency period until 17 Sep, it is unclear how RCI's move will affect its scheduled summer season.Azamara pulls out of Australia for 2021Azamara Cruises is the latest international operator to suspend its upcoming Australasian summer season, this morning confirming the “difficult decision to replace many sailings between Sep 2021-May 2022 due to the ongoing complexities of cruise operations in Latin America and Australia”.The move has seen the cancellation of 13 Azamara Journey voyages, including operations in Australia and New Zealand, as well as Japan and Asia. Azamara has also cancelled Azamara Pursuit voyages until Jan.P&O Cruises welcomed first guests in 15 months as Britannia sets sailThe first guests in 15 months were welcomed by P&O Cruises, Sunday June 27, 2021, as Britannia departed Southampton for a four night summer sailing around the UK coast to where the sun shines brightest.P&O Cruises ships anchored locally, Ventura, Arcadia and Aurora, and those of sister brand Cunard, Queen Mary 2, Queen Elizabeth and Queen Victoria, celebrated the occasion with a horn-sounding departure salute as Britannia left the Port of Southampton at 6pm and sailed down the Solent.Britannia will sail a series of three, four and seven night UK coastal cruises until September 25, 2021 when western Mediterranean itineraries will commence prior to her winter Caribbean season.Iona's maiden voyage will be on August 7, 2021 and she will then sail weekly seven night scenic coastal cruises, before beginning Atlantic coast holidaysCaptain Kate welcomes guests back to Celebrity EdgeOn 26 June Celebrity Edge set sail on a new-luxury experience that will – once again – feed peoples' love of travel.” as the exquisite Celebrity Edge prepared to sail from Ft. Lauderdale at 6.00pm ET, becoming the first cruise ship to sail from a U.S. port in more than a year.What seems only fitting, now, 15 months after being at the helm of history for the first all-female bridge and officer team sailing in March 2020 and the last sailing before the industry was put on pause, Captain Kate McCue, the first and still only American female to captain a major cruise ship, now leads the fleet – and the industry – back into operation from Fort Lauderdale's Port Everglades. The ship set sails for Mexico and the Bahamas.Crystal Expedition Cruises Christens Crystal EndeavorCrystal Expedition Cruises officially welcomed its new 20,200 GRT luxury expedition yacht Crystal Endeavor to the Crystal fleet as the ship was christened by Godmother Manuela Schwesig, Prime Minister of Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania in Stralsund, Germany.Inaugural Voyages, Iceland, the Arctic Circle and EuropeAs the first and only true luxury expedition yacht to restart cruising in the Arctic and Northern Europe, Crystal Endeavor will set sail beginning July 17 with five 10-night immersive voyages circumnavigating Iceland's most dramatically beautiful and fascinating locales. The Luxury Iceland Expedition voyages will sail round-trip from the ship's homeport of Reykjavík, affording travellers convenient air options, just six hours from New York City, three hours from London and with frequent non-stop flights from many major cities in the U.S. and Europe and will be followed by the 10-night Journey of Vikings: Iceland & Norway from Reykjavík to Tromsø departing September 5, 2021.Princess Announces 2023 Cruises & Cruisetours to EuropePrincess Cruises today revealed the best of cruising throughout Europe in 2023, with popular itineraries sailing from the Mediterranean and British Isles to Scandinavia and Russia, Iceland and Norway. All 177 departures go on sale to Elite Guests only on July 16, 2021 and to the General Public on July 17, 2021.With 67 unique itineraries, ranging in length from seven to 33 days, cruisers have an array of choices to select their bucket-list Europe cruise to fit their lifestyle, budget and travel dreams. Five MedallionClass ships – Enchanted Princess, Sky Princess, Regal Princess, Emerald Princess and Island Princess – will sail to 116 destinations in 32 countries, offering guests the opportunity to visit 53 UNESCO World Heritage SitesThe 2023 Europe season runs from March to December. Deployment highlights include:Enchanted Princess sails her first Mediterranean season on a series of 14-day voyages departing from either Barcelona, Rome (Civitavecchia) or Athens (Piraeus), for those with more time, Princess will offer the ultimate, 21-day exploration of the region.Regal Princess returns to the Baltic sailing 11-day Scandinavia & Russia cruises roundtrip from Copenhagen, featuring an overnight in St. Petersburg on every sailing.Sky Princess comes back for a second season sailing roundtrip from London (Southampton) on a variety of voyages from seven- to 14-days featuring Iceland and Norway, the Canary Islands and a 24-day adventure to Canada & New England.Emerald Princess departs on 12-day British Isles sailings with options including Liverpool, Portland (for Stonehenge) or to the very tip of Scotland to the Orkney Islands, all departing roundtrip from London (Southampton). Guests also have the unique opportunity to experience the awe-inspiring Edinburgh Military Tattoo from Glasgow (Greenock) on the July 31 and August 12, 2023 departures.Island Princess offers many voyages throughout Europe, including above the Arctic Circle in search of the Northern Lights from London (Southampton) and to the Mediterranean and Israel on 14-day cruises sailing from Rome (Civitavecchia).Sky Princess and Island Princess spend the Summer Solstice at the top of the world when the sun never sets on 14-day or 16-day Land of the Midnight Sun & Summer Solstice voyages.All five ships sail spring and fall Transatlantic voyages for the ultimate ocean crossing between Ft. Lauderdale and Barcelona, Copenhagen, London (Southampton), New York or Rome (Civitavecchia).Princess will visit 53 UNESCO World Heritage Sites including:White City of Tel-Aviv from Ashdod in IsraelThe Acropolis from Athens, GreeceCathedral, Alcázar and Archivo de Indias in Seville from Cadiz, SpainThe Kronborg Castle from Copenhagen, DenmarkGorham's Cave Complex from GibraltarThe Ancient City of Ephesus from Kusadasi, TurkeyMount Etna from Messina, ItalyThe City of Lübeck from Hamburg, GermanyPrincess will offer 24 “More Ashore” late night and overnight calls in port, guests can make the most of their time exploring and experiencing the local sites and cultures. Princess is also offering five distinct cruise tours:Opportunities to sightsee in the cosmopolitan city of Madrid are available on the Highlights of Spain cruisetourDiscover the birthplace of the Renaissance on the Classic Italy cruisetourThe Imperial Treasures cruisetour is available for those who want to take in the art and architecture of Prague, Vienna and BudapestGuests can marvel at the sweeping landscapes on the Ring of Kerry cruisetourOur new Best of Greece cruisetour includes a visit to the UNESCO World Heritage Sites of Mycenae, Meteora and DelphiRSSC Offers bonus land programme Regent is providing travellers the opportunity to extend their cruise with its latest offer, Ultimate Alaska, elevating the immersive Regent destination experience to new heights with a FREE three-night land programme.The pre- or post-cruise land programme has been expertly crafted to showcase the most iconic and hidden gems that the Canadian city of Vancouver has to offer. Spanning four days and three nights, Vancouver Adventures is FREE on 17, seven-night itineraries cruising between Vancouver and Seward, Alaska, from May to September 2022. A 13-night sailing from San Francisco, California to Vancouver and a 12-night sailing from Vancouver to Los Angeles, California are also available as part of the offer. All cruises are on board the elegant Seven Seas Mariner®.Ultimate Alaska also offers 50% reduced deposits and applies to new reservations made between 1 July – 31 August 2021.FREE 3-Night Land Programme HighlightsWith all voyages either arriving or departing from Vancouver, Ultimate Alaska offers guests incredible immersion of this vibrant city with a FREE 3-night land programme pre- or post- cruise, Vancouver Adventures.This remarkable land programme includes the opportunity to discover the historical yet chic neighbourhood of Gastown, featuring the soaring Capilano Suspension Bridge where guests can literally walk above the trees, as well as allowing travellers to reconnect with nature at the city's stunning Queen Elizabeth Park.Additional highlights include indulgent discoveries for shoppers and foodies alike at the arty Granville Island and the harbour-front Stanley Park, where guests can hire a bike and cycle through an old-growth forest. Travellers will also ascend Grouse Mountain on the Skyride – an aerial tramway system – where they will enjoy astonishing views of the city and can visit a bear refuge.Seabourn expands Seabourn Source Mobile AppSeabourn have expanded their “Seabourn Source” Mobile App, giving guests more instant information to enhance their travel experience. The mobile app is accessible to all guests on a complimentary basis and available to download prior to a sailing.Seabourn Source will be a vital tool for guests aboard to manage their stay, with up to-the-minute access of daily details of their voyage via smart phone, tablet or laptop – being an efficient, convenient and enjoyable tool for guests to utilise.Within the app, some updates are especially convenient which will include access to digital dining menu's throughout the venues of every Seabourn ship, as well as allowing digital boarding passes access to assist in the pier embarkation experience. Online guest registration, book and browse shore excursions as well as accessing the internet are all features guests can experience.The app is complimentary to download whether at home or onboard, and is available on both the Apple App Store, and Google Play StorePONANT's 2022 and 2023 Tropical Expeditions explore a kaleidoscope of enticingly remote destinationsPonant has released an extensive range of tropical small ship luxury expeditions, including some brand new itineraries, all aimed at revealing a diverse range of cultures, wildlife and landscapes, with many unique locations designated UNESCO World Heritage status.67 exceptional itineraries, exploring remote coastlines and islands with an emphasis on cultural discoveries and encounters with local populations. On board Le Soléal, two 7 night departures during May 2022 explore rarely visited Japanese Subtropical Islands including the Ryukyu Islands and Okinawa Archipelago and the magnificent Iriomote-Ishigaki National Park where wild beaches mix with traditional villages and lush jungle, mangroves, rivers and waterfalls. From Kikaijima's beautiful beaches and turquoise waters, onwards to pristine Zamami, in the Kerama Islands, known worldwide for its distinctive “Kerama blue” waters, while the remote island of Yonagunijima, the easternmost of the Ryukyu Islands, offers a striking contrast: cliffs, windswept meadows, wild horses……Or, perhaps, commence with the spice-scented bazaars of a Zanzibar and the Jewels of the Indian Ocean voyage. Pristine powder white beaches greet you as you explore untouched atolls in the Seychelles, including Cosmoledo Atoll, regarded as the Galapagos of the Indian Ocean. Here enjoy exceptional dives in its aquarium-like lagoon exploring the rich marine life. Stunning La Digue and Desroches are also featured stops along with the sublime Assumption Island. Adventures by day build an appetite for the French inspired cuisine and casually chic lifestyle on board your modern luxury expedition ship, Le Jacques Cartier. Two 12 night expeditions available during February and March 2023.Trust PONANT to add a twist of exotic to its regular Kimberley season of expeditions by adding a new 14 night itinerary that departs Broome 5 September 2022 onboard Le Lapérouse. This Wild Landscapes of the Kimberley & South-East Asia itinerary features the impressive highlights of Australia's own Kimberley including the Hunter River, King George Falls and Montgomery Reef, plus Dili in East Timor, the Alor islands in Indonesia and an opportunity to see Komodo dragons, before disembarking in beautiful Bali.Are you ready to join an 11 night cultural odyssey Revealing the Mysteries of Melanesia where, to a great extent, time in paradise has stood still? One departure only in November 2022 will be enriched by travelling with a National Geographic expert and photographer – all the better to prepare you for time ashore visiting traditional villages on Vanikoro, sailing into the flooded caldera of Ureparapara or viewing the awe-inspiring volcanic activity at Hades-like Mt Yasur. Snorkelling and diving are on the agenda in order to discover the rich maritime world beneath.MSC Resumes cruising from Barcelona The port of Barcelona reopened on the weekend for international cruises when MSC Grandiosa became the first ship to embark Spanish guests and holidaymakers from other Schengen countries.The 7-night cruise holiday calls at the Italian ports of Genoa, Civitavecchia for Rome, Naples and Palermo, plus Valetta, MaltaMore ports will reopen in the coming weeks across Europe and MSC Cruises' phased restart of operations is continuing as planned with the Company offering a choice of six different ships and itineraries this summer across the Mediterranean and Northern Europe.MSC Seaview will start Baltic Sea cruises beginning 3 July from her homeport of Kiel in Germany with 7-night sailings to Sweden and Estonia and MSC Seaside on 4 July will mark the official reopening of Marseille, France to cruising.MSC Meraviglia from 2 August will resume Caribbean cruises from Miami and will be joined in the region from 18 September when MSC Divina restarts sailing from Port Canaveral near Orlando in Florida.MSC Seashore will come into service in August with voyages in the West Mediterranean before the Company's newest flagship transfers in November to Miami for a season in the Caribbean.MSC begins construction of MSC EuribiaThe first steel was cut 28 June, 2021 at Chantiers de l'Atlantique in Saint Nazaire, France marking the official start of construction of MSC Cruises' most environmentally advanced ship to-date, and her name was also revealed. Set to come into service in June 2023, MSC Euribia will become the 22nd vessel in the MSC Cruises' fleet and the second to run on liquefied natural gas (LNG), the cleanest marine fuel available at scale today. As every ship that joins MSC Cruises' fleet, she will be equipped with some of the latest and most advanced technologies and solutions to minimise her environmental impact. The beginning of construction of MSC Euribia effectively marks another milestone in the Company's commitment to environmental sustainability.The start of her construction was marked by a traditional steel cutting ceremony in Saint Nazaire bringing the ship owner and shipyard together. As maritime custom dictates, MSC Cruises' Executive Chairman Pierfrancesco Vago joined Chantiers de l'Atlantique's General Manager Laurent Castaing to launch the cutting of the first steel for the new ship and, with it, the next step in MSC Cruises' journey towards zero-impact operations.MSC Euribia named after Ancient Greek goddess of mastery of the seasShip's cutting of the first steel ceremony marks next step in MSC Cruises' ongoing journey towards zero-impact operationsMSC Euribia to become second ship in the MSC Cruises' fleet powered by LNG to achieve substantial emissions reductionsShip set to come into service in 2023 and become 22nd vessel in the MSC Cruises fleet Ethical Cruise T-Shirts Now available branded podcast t-shirts, cruise-tees and Christmas gifts or design your own in the studio. 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I discuss some of the recent findings in archaeogenetics and archaeology, mainly the two DNA papers regarding Indo-European invasions of Greece and Italy. The source of Indo-European languages in each turns out to be the Catacomb culture and the Bell Beaker culture respectively. I also debunk the claim that Goths were not originally from Sweden using the latest DNA evidence.Sources: Clemente et al, The genomic history of the Aegean palatial civilizations, (2021).Saute et al, Ancient genomes reveal structural shifts after the arrival of Steppe-related ancestry in the Italian Peninsula (2021) This channel depends on your support:Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/survivethejiveAll Links: https://linktr.ee/SurvivetheJive
The Mycenaean civilization (c. 1700-1100 BCE) flourished in the Late Bronze Age, reaching its peak from the 15th to the 13th century BCE when it extended its influence not only throughout the Peloponnese in Greece but also across the Aegean, in particular, on Crete and the Cycladic islands. The Mycenaeans, named after their chief city of Mycenae in the Argolid of the northeast Peloponnese, were influenced by the earlier Minoan civilization (2000-1450 BCE) which had spread from its origins at Knossos, Crete to include the wider Aegean. Architecture, art and religious practices were assimilated and adapted to better express the perhaps more militaristic and austere Mycenaean culture. The Mycenaeans came to dominate most of mainland Greece and several islands, extending trade relations to other Bronze Age cultures in such places as Cyprus, the Levant, and Egypt. The culture made a lasting impression on later Greeks in the Archaic and Classical periods, most tangibly in their myths of Bronze Age heroes like Achilles and Odysseus and their exploits in the Trojan War. Mycenaean Civilization written by Mark Cartwright and narrated by Kelly Macquire: https://www.worldhistory.org/Mycenaean_Civilization/ Find our video on the Mycenaean Civilization on YouTube here -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZioHxDVCGE&t=137s If you like our audio articles, please support us by becoming a member or donating to our non-profit company: - www.worldhistory.org/membership/ - www.worldhistory.org/donate/ - www.worldhistory.org/patreon - www.worldhistory.store/ The music used in this recording is the intellectual copyright of Michael Levy, a prolific composer for the recreated lyres of antiquity, and used with the creator's permission. Michael Levy's music is available to stream at all the major digital music platforms. Find out more on: www.ancientlyre.com open.spotify.com/artist/7Dx2vFEg8…IH9CRieFNGXRUyJ9 www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ1X6F7lGMEadnNETSzTv8A
I had posted earlier that the Rig Veda was compiled in the Arctic,There was a Kingdom of Women in Russia and Tripura, destroyed by Lord Shiva was in Russia. Now evidence has surfaced that “Twenty of the spiral-shaped settlements, believed to be the original home of the Aryan people, have been identified, and there are about 50 more suspected sites. They all lie buried in a region more than 640km long near Russia's border with Kazakhstan. The cities are thought to have been built 3500-4000 years ago, soon after the Great Pyramid in Egypt. They are about the same size as several of the city states of ancient Greece, which started to come into being in Crete at about the same time.The shape of each of the cities, which are mainly in the Chelyabinsk district, resembles an ammonite fossil, divided into segments with a spiral street plan. The settlements, which would each have housed about 2000 people — the same as an ancient Greek city such as Mycenae — are all surrounded by a ditch and have a square in the middle. The first city, known as Arkaim, was discovered in 1989, soon after the soviet authorities allowed non-military aerial photography for the first time. The Russians knew about these settlements for about 20 years. This information was revealed by historian Bettany Hughes on the BBC program “Tracking the Aryans”. And there is a Mountain named after the Hindu Sage, Narada. ‘ According to Bulgarian linguist Vladimir Georgiev, geographical names are the most important source for determining how a group of people acquire their ethnicity. This can originate through a process of self-identification or it could be the result of outside identification. Georgiev says the most stable – or longstanding – names are that of rivers. “But in order to preserve the names it is necessary to maintain the continuity of the population, transmitting these names from generation to generation. Otherwise, new people may come and give it their own name,” he says. Georgiev illustrates that in 1927 a detachment of geologists “discovered” the highest mountain in the Urals. The mountain was called Narada by the local population, and interestingly the ancient Indian epics describe the great sage Narada as living in the north. But since it was the 10thanniversary of the October Revolution, the geologists decided to mark the event and rename the mountain as Narodnoy – or People. And that's what it is now called in all geographic references and on all maps.” And, ‘ In the meanwhile I read a Book where the author, a Scholar in Sanskrit, Tatyana Elizarenkova in her Book ‘Language and Style of the Vedic Rsis' states that the Rig Veda was written in Russia! This is based on the language construction, Grammar and the affinity between Sanskrit and Russian. Based on a Study of Indo-European Languages and cross checking with other scholars of the West who knew Sanskrit she seemed to have arrived at the conclusion.” Rig Veda composed in Russia and Tripura Rotating City Destroyed by Shiva Reference and citations. Image. Britannica. http://in.rbth.com/blogs/2014/11/01/sanskrit_and_russian_ancient_kinship_39451.html http://archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.in/2010/10/unearthed-aryan-cities-rewrite-history.html#.VNIVONKUdGR https://ramanisblog.in/2015/02/04/narada-mountain-in-russia-urals-narodnaya/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/ramanispodcast/message
In this episode Dave and Jeff make their way through the life and (mis)adventures of Heinrich Schliemann, the German polyglot, tycoon, and romantic who was instrumental in the discovery of the sites of ancient Troy and Mycenae. Who was this man? Was he a legitimate archaeologist? A mad genius? A grave robber? Charlatan? All of the above? Come along as we dig up Priam's Treasure, death masks that resemble puffer fish, as well as tackle weighty questions such as "Did the Mycenaeans tweak their handle-bar moustaches with some sort of ancient Brylcreem?". And fellas: don't miss some hot tips for finding that special lady who exudes an "Homeric Spirit".
The ancient Greeks lived in many lands around the Mediterranean Sea, from Turkey to the south of France. They had close contacts with other peoples such as the Egyptians, Syrians and Persians. The Greeks lived in separate city-states, but shared the same language and religious beliefs. The Greek culture and civilization can be dated back to the Bronze Age (around 3200 – 1100 B.C.E.). In this period, a number of cultures flourished on the islands of the Cyclades, in Crete and on the Greek mainland. They were mainly farmers, but trade across the sea, particularly in raw materials such as obsidian (volcanic glass) and metals, was growing. Mycenaean culture flourished on the Greek mainland in the Late Bronze Age, from about 1600 to 1100 B.C.E. The name comes from the site of Mycenae, where the culture was first recognized after the excavations in 1876 of Heinrich Schliemann. The Mycenaean period of the later Greek Bronze Age was viewed by the Greeks as the “age of heroes” and perhaps provides the historical background to many of the stories told in later Greek mythology, including Homer’s epics. Objects and artworks from this time are found throughout mainland Greece and the Greek islands. Distinctive Mycenaean pottery was distributed widely across the eastern Mediterranean. These show the beginnings of Greek mythology being used to decorate works of art. They come from about the same time that the epics of Homer were reaching the form in which we inherit them, as the earliest Greek literature. The collapse of Mycenaean civilization around 1100 B.C.E. brought about a period of isolation known as the Dark Age. But by around 800 B.C.E. the revival had begun as trade with the wider world increased, arts, crafts and writing re-emerged and city-states (poleis) developed. It was around this time that Hesoid wrote the poem "Theogony" - the geneology of the birth of gods. Hesiod's Theogony was a large-scale synthesis of a vast variety of local Greek traditions concerning the gods, organize as a narrative that tells how they came to be and how they established permanent control over the cosmos. It was the first known Greek mythical cosmogony. Our tale today is the very same that was propounded by Hesoid over 2800 years ago. I hope you enjoy the story. If you do, please leave a rating and feedback. Share and subscribe! Your patronage would help us immensely! Get in touch with us: Twitter: @storiesthtmdeus Instagram: @storiesthtmdeus Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/storiesthatmdeus e-mail: info.storiesthatmadeus@gmail.com The music used for the episodes are either free to use, or under creative commons license. Below are their links and attributions: Fond Memories Artist: SYBS Source: YouTube Audio Library For Originz by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution license (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/) Source: http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/index.html?isrc=USUAN1100700 Artist: http://incompetech.com/ Pendulum Waltz by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution license (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/) Artist: http://audionautix.com/ Your Suggestions Artist: Unicorn Heads Source: YouTube Audio Library Magical Triumph Artist: Sir Cubworth Source: YouTube Audio Library Forest of Fear Artist: Aakash Gandhi Source: YouTube Audio Library Halls of the Undead by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution license (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/) Source: http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/index.html?isrc=USUAN1100355 Artist: http://incompetech.com/ Hero Down by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution license (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/) Source: http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/index.html?isrc=USUAN1100880 Artist: http://incompetech.com/ Eastern Thought by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution license (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/) Source: http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/index.html?isrc=USUAN1100682 Artist: http://incompetech.com/ Evening Melodrama by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution license (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/) Source: http://incompetech.com/music/royalty-free/index.html?isrc=USUAN1200049 Artist: http://incompetech.com/
Welcome back to Spartan History Podcast, this will be part 2 of my series on the Bronze age collapse, and the final episode set in the Heroic/Bronze period.After having established all of the major players in the eastern Mediterranean region in the previous episode, it's time to discover the fate of Homer's Achaean, aka the Mycenaean's. I expound upon the various ills besetting their society and set the seen for what I believe to be a mass migration event at the close of the age. Hopefully, building a strong case for the Greeks participation in the Sea people events of the period. Hope you all enjoy and take care.*No extra content this month, sinking most of my spare time into finishing off my retelling of the Golden Fleece legend. Hopefully this will be up for release mid month. Still by all means go to spartanhistorypodcast.com and sign up for membership and free, possibly half decent, content.
My special guest is Alexandros Angelis who's here to discuss his book that explores mysteries from our ancient past. Get it now on Amazon.About the book: Imagine the following scene: Eric Schliemann having to get the permission of scientists, telling them that, based on Homer's descriptions, he believes he can discover the mythical Troy. Besides laughing their hearts out, do you think there would even be the slightest chance for Schliemann to have gotten their permission? And it is not just Troy, Knossos, or the Mycenae, the most major archaeological findings in the world, despite the references in the ancient texts, that was a complete surprise for the scientific establishment. If that establishment had full control, all those discoveries would never have happened. The primary purpose of this book is to present evidence supporting the theory of a relatively advanced civilization during prehistory, which was lost due to some natural catastrophe.If you're enjoying Mysterious Radio, now is the time to join Patreon. Soon, you'll only be able to access episodes by being part of our community there. You'll enjoy every episode ad-free, and we can share our episodes with you without censorship. Plus, joining us unlocks over 1000 bonus segments and episodes that will blow your mind! While the price is set to rise to $9.99, you can jump on board right now for just $5, and that's forever! Join The Brain Trust Now.
A podcast by DJ Watkins and AJ Keen of Bristol Grammar School to help GCSE Class Civ pupils to revise for their Myth and Religion and Homeric World topics.2.1 Key Sites (Mycenae, Tiryns, Troy)
We discuss Netflix's hottest new show (Love is Blind, obviously) and which characters have Oedipal and Electra complexes, my cannonball into the frigid waters of the unknown, a hot take on NYC's best burger and nice looking statues. Kiss your mom good night and have a listen.
About the Lecture: “Our democracy is getting self-destroyed, for it abused the rights of freedom and of equality; for it taught the citizens to regard insolence as a right, illegality as freedom, impertinence as equality, and anarchy as happiness.” (Isocrates, 436-338 BC). Democracy first emerged in ancient Athens in 507 BC following a long turbulent period of aristocracy and tyranny, when a nexus of intertwined geopolitical, sociopolitical, economic, and cultural developments led to the morphogenesis of this new political constitution. Athenian Democracy formulated the political ideology and fundamental principles that were later canonized by modern democracies, formalized defensive mechanisms against undue concentration of power and employed innovative integrative mechanisms to propagate its ideology and educate the citizens. Pathogenic traits-catalysts, however, such as the extreme polarization between mass and elite, demagogy, populism, failure of justice, apathy, and poor education caused extensive political ankylosis. Internal corrosion and changing historical conditions caused the decline and fall of Democracy three centuries later. Isocrates' aphorism, therefore, rings alarmingly all too pragmatic and relevant today, 250 years since the resurgence of Democracy in the modern world (USA, France, Greece). Are we running a similar cycle, repeating old mistakes, standing at the same juncture, heading towards the same dead end? To navigate forward, find solutions, and shape our future, we need first to study our past. About the Speaker: Born in Greece, Christofilis Maggidis received a thorough education in the Classical Lyceum at the Anavryta Model School and went on to receive a B.A. in History and Archaeology (1988) from the University of Athens, where he was awarded several honorary distinctions and scholarships for excellence. He further pursued his graduate studies while on prestigious fellowships (Fulbright, William Penn, and Charles Williams Fellowships) and received his Ph.D. in Classical Archaeology (1994) from the University of Pennsylvania. He completed postdoctoral studies as a Fellow at Brown University (1997-1999) and a White-Levy Research Fellow at Harvard University (1999-2001). Christofilis has taught archaeology, ancient history, classics, and philosophy at Campus College and the University of Indianapolis, Athens. In 2001, Christofilis joined Dickinson College as the Christopher Roberts Professor of Archaeology in the Department of Archaeology, where he has been teaching courses in the art, architecture, and archaeology of the prehistoric Aegean, classical Greece, republican/imperial Rome, Egypt, the Near East (Mesopotamia and Anatolia), in ancient Greek religion and athletics, Athenian democracy, ancient burial customs, and ancient technology. Christofilis Maggidis is an active field archaeologist with long field experience since 1985 as a trench master and sector supervisor at major archaeological; he has served as Field Director of the Lower Town Excavation at Mycenae, Co-Director of the Mycenaean Spercheios-valley Archaeological Project, and Director of the Archaeogeophysical Survey of the Citadel of Glas. He was elected member of the Athens Archaeological Society in 1999 and President of the Mycenaean Foundation in 2013. His main research interests focus on Aegean Prehistory, but also include Classical Sculpture and Architecture, Archaeological Methodology and Interpretation. Christofilis has given 38 invited lectures and presented another 40 international conference papers worldwide. His publications comprise 23 articles, numerous excavation reports, and four forthcoming books: The Lower Town of Mycenae I: Archaeogeophysical Survey 2003-2013; The Lower Town of Mycenae II: Archaeological Excavations 2007-2013; The Palatial Workshops of Mycenae: The Artisans' Workshops and the House of; Mycenae Excavations: Building K.
With the wind rustling the trees, a faint hint of the bouquet from the honeysuckle on the air, the moon moved from behind the cloud. It was hard to accept that this was still the same group that everyone knew and liked (loved is suck a strong word and with Buck involved we might be stretching it a bit). The utter shock of it all is beyond belief; we are almost at that time folks. Yes, we really are almost at the 2 year mark. Tell your friends that like Keith Richards we have refused to stop going, like an aging rock band we are here once again. The Nerds are back!First up this week we have a segment about QTIME, what is that you ask? Well it is an amazing device to help when gaming is more important than life, but you still have to pay the bills. It is awesome for those parents that want to guide their dirt urchins out into the wide blue yonder and do their chores around the house. It is also the perfect way to destroy a room full of sports fans. Want to know exactly what this miracle device is, listen in and hear the Professor tell us about it and Buck hatch evil ideas.Now there are restaurants that have monkey waiters, cafes where you can cuddle a cat or puppy, there are even sushi bars with trains. Now we give you Cat Robots! Yes folks it is that time of year when the biggest collection of Nerds and Geeks gather. It is the CES once again and Buck has found that there are Cat Robots, also a super important and special bot for those times when you stuck needing a roll of paper. This is important and we invite you to tell us your favourite exhibit at the CES (Consumer Electronics Show) we only discuss a couple, there are some many things it would require a special episode of its own.Next up we have DJ telling us about the news that Studio Ghibli are planning to release 2 new movies. The special part of this is we have an expected release date of….Listen in and find out when. Also we discuss what the movies theme is going to be. We don’t want to spoil it for you and tell you everything now, but we are sure you will enjoy it as much as we do. Lastly, we have the usual game played, shout outs, remembrances, birthdays, and special events. Until next time, thanks for listening, take care of yourselves, look out for each other and stay hydrated.Qtime : Limiting Gaming Time - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2018/10/23/father-son-create-app-parents-shut-childs-video-consoles-remotely/Cat Robots in Restaurants - https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51003084?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.com/news/technology&link_location=live-reporting-storyStudio Ghibli making 2 movies for 2020 - https://www.cbr.com/studio-ghibli-two-new-films-2020/Games currently playingProfessor– Final Fantasy Adventure - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_AdventureRating – 5/10Buck– Desert Order - https://www.desertorder.com/Rating – 3.5/5DJ– Watchers - https://store.steampowered.com/app/1124980/Watchers/Rating – 3.5/5Other topics discussedQTIME official website- https://getqtime.com/Court dress (style of clothes prescribed for courts of law and for royal courts._- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_dressYouTube Challenge - Hey Jimmy Kimmel I Unplugged the TV During the Game- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMmqqKV49cgYouTube Challenge – I Turned Off the TV During Fortnite- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPTXkp4pPeICES (Consumer Electronics Show) and its info- https://www.ces.tech/- https://metro.co.uk/2018/01/08/ces-stand-dates-held-7212783/Cat Cafes in Brisbane- Lucky Cat Café - https://www.luckycatcafe.com.au/- Cat Cuddle Café - https://catcuddlecafe.com/Charmin’s Rollbot unveiled at CES 2020- https://www.cnet.com/news/charmins-pooptime-robot-pal-will-bring-fresh-toilet-roll-when-you-need-it-most/The Good Place (American fantasy comedy television series created by Michael Schur.)- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good_PlaceHow Do You Live (1937 novel by Yoshino Genzaburō. It follows a 15-year-old boy named Junichi Honda, nicknamed Koperu, and his uncle as the youth deals with spiritual growth, poverty, and the overall experience as human beings.)- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Do_You_Live%3F_(novel)Studio Ghibli 25 Years Concert - Joe Hisaishi in Budokan- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY1XtWyKlJAMining billionaire Andrew Forrest pledges $70 million bushfire relief and recovery donation- https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-09/andrew-forrest-pledges-$70m-donation-to-bushfire-relief/11854654Four Wedding and a Funeral (American romantic comedy web television miniseries, based on the 1994 British film of the same name written by Richard Curtis.)- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Weddings_and_a_Funeral_(miniseries)Stephen Fry (English actor, comedian and writer)- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_FryHugh Laurie (English actor, director, singer, musician, comedian and author.)- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Laurie1st episode of Q.I. starring Hugh Laurie, Danny Baker & John Sessions- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lmJ15QvMZEJames A. Garfield (20th president of the United States, serving from March 4, 1881 until his death by assassination six and a half months later.)- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_A._GarfieldMusicals Taught me Everything I Know (TNC Podcast)- https://thatsnotcanon.com/mtmeikShoutout4 Jan 2019 - Tom Long passed away. Tom Long an Australian film and television actor. He played court official and avid surfer Angus in the late 1990s TV series SeaChange and Brendon Abbott in the 2003 Australian TV movie The Postcard Bandit. He was also in the movie the Dish as Glenn Latham, Comedian Jane Kennedy, a writer and producer for The Dish said Long was "one of the most modest and talented human beings I have had the privilege to work with". He died of encephalitis at the age of 51. - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-06/tom-long-seachange-the-dish-actor-dies-aged-51/118433285 Jan 2019 – Hayao Miyazaki celebrated his 79th birthday. A co-founder of Studio Ghibli, a film and animation studio, he has attained international acclaim as a masterful storyteller and as a maker ofanimated feature films, and is widely regarded as one of the most accomplished filmmakers in the animation business. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayao_Miyazaki6 Jan 1994 - Washington State University’s research moose, Morty, who strolled to fame in the opening credits of the CBS-TV series 'Northern Exposure,' has died. The moose died of cobalt and copper deficiency. - https://www.upi.com/Archives/1994/01/07/Northern-Exposure-moose-dies/1000757918800/6 Jan 2019 – Australian comedian Celeste Barber has raised more than $46 million dollars for The Trustee for NSW Rural Fire Service & Brigades Donations Fund. - https://www.facebook.com/donate/1010958179269977/2477326602586291/Rememberances6 Jan 1990 - Pavel Alekseyevich Cherenkov, Soviet physicist who shared the Nobel Prize in physics in 1958 with Ilya Frank and Igor Tamm for the discovery of Cherenkov radiation, made in 1934. Cherenkov observed the emission of blue light from a bottle of water subjected to radioactive bombardment. This phenomenon, associated with charged atomic particles moving at velocities greater than the phase velocity of light, proved to be of great importance in subsequent experimental work in nuclear physics, and for the study of cosmic rays. Eponymously, it was dubbed the Cherenkov effect, as was the Cherenkov detector, which has become a standard piece of equipment in atomic research for observing the existence and velocity of high-speed particles. He died at the age of 85 in Moscow,Russian SFSR. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Cherenkov6 Jan 1990 - Ian Charleson, Scottish stage and film actor. He is best known internationally for his starring role as Olympic athlete and missionary Eric Liddell, in the Oscar-winning 1981 film Chariots of Fire. He is also well known for his portrayal of Rev. Charlie Andrews in the 1982 Oscar-winning film Gandhi. He performed numerous Shakespearean roles, and in 1991 the annual Ian Charleson Awards were established, particularly in honour of his final Hamlet. The awards reward the best classical stage performances in Britain by actors aged under 30. Ian McKellen said Charleson was "the most unmannered and unactorish of actors: always truthful, always honest". He died from AIDS related causes at the age of 40 in London. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Charleson6 Jan 1997 - Catherine Scorsese, American actress, and the mother of director Martin Scorsese. Of Italian descent, she began acting when her son Martin Scorsese cast her in his film It's Not Just You, Murray!. She frequently played the role of an Italian mother, and is perhaps most well known for her appearance in her son's film Goodfellas, as Mrs. DeVito, Tommy's mother. She acted in films other than her son's. She was married to Charles Scorsese. Her father, Martin Cappa, was a stage co-ordinator and her mother, Domenica, was a shop owner. She published a recipe book, Italianamerican: The Scorsese Family Cookbook. She died from Alzheimer's disease at the age of 84 in Manhattan, New York. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_ScorseseFamous Birthdays6 Jan 1822 - Heinrich Schliemann, German businessman and a pioneer in the field of archaeology. He was an advocate of the historicity of places mentioned in the works of Homer and an archaeological excavator of Hisarlik, now presumed to be the site of Troy, along with the Mycenaean sites Mycenae and Tiryns. His work lent weight to the idea that Homer's Iliad reflects historical events. Schliemann's excavation of nine levels of archaeological remains with dynamite has been criticized as destructive of significant historical artifacts, including the level that is believed to be the historical Troy. Schliemann's famous finds include Priam's Treasure, a cache of gold jewellery discovered in 1873. Schliemann was also the excavator of the bronze age site of Mycenae in North Greece, where he found the so-called "Mask of Agamemnon" in 1876. He was born in Neubukow,Mecklenburg-Schwerin. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Schliemann6 Jan 1954 - Yuji Horii, Japanese video game designer and scenario writer best known as the creator of the Dragon Quest series of role-playing games, supervising and writing the scenario for Chrono Trigger, as well as the first visual noveladventure game Portopia Serial Murder Case. In Chrono Trigger, Horii appearing in one of the endings with the game development staff. He was born in Sumoto, Hyōgo - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuji_Horii6 Jan 1955 - Rowan Atkinson, English actor, comedian and writer. He is best known for his work on the sitcoms Blackadder and Mr. Bean. Atkinson first came to prominence in the BBC's sketch comedy show Not the Nine O'Clock News, receiving the 1981 BAFTA for Best Entertainment Performance, and via his participation in The Secret Policeman's Ball. His other work includes the James Bond film Never Say Never Again, playing a bumbling vicar in Four Weddings and a Funeral, voicing the red-billed hornbill Zazu in The Lion King, and playing jewellery salesman Rufus in Love Actually. Best known for his use of physical comedy in his Mr. Bean persona, Atkinson's other characters rely more on language. Atkinson often plays authority figures speaking absurd lines with a completely deadpan delivery. He was born in Consett,County Durham - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rowan_AtkinsonEvents of Interest6 January 1873: Crédit Mobilier of America scandal investigated, this led to the censure of Oakes Ames of Massachusetts and James Brooks of New York. This scandal showed how corruption tainted Gilded Age politics, and the lengths railroads and other economic interests would go to assure and increase profits. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cr%C3%A9dit_Mobilier_scandal6 Jan 1912 - German geophysicistAlfred Wegener first presents his theory of continental drift. He hypothesized that that the continents are slowly drifting around the Earth. He suggested that the continents were once a single landmass and gradually drifted apart, either because of the centrifugal force of the Earth’s rotation, or astronomical precession. Wegener also originally thought mid-ocean ridges might play some role, since the Atlantic seafloor “is continuously tearing open and making space for fresh, relatively fluid and hot [material rising] from depth.” But he eventually abandoned those notions. - https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/201901/history.cfm6 Jan 1950 – The United Kingdom recognizes the People's Republic of China. The Republic of China presently known as Taiwan severs diplomatic relations with the UK in response. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950_in_ChinaIntroArtist – Goblins from MarsSong Title – Super Mario - Overworld Theme (GFM Trap Remix)Song Link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GNMe6kF0j0&index=4&list=PLHmTsVREU3Ar1AJWkimkl6Pux3R5PB-QJFollow us onFacebook- Page - https://www.facebook.com/NerdsAmalgamated/- Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/440485136816406/Twitter - https://twitter.com/NAmalgamatedSpotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6Nux69rftdBeeEXwD8GXrSiTunes - https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/top-shelf-nerds/id1347661094RSS - http://www.thatsnotcanonproductions.com/topshelfnerdspodcast?format=rssInstagram - https://www.instagram.com/nerds_amalgamated/General EnquiriesEmail - Nerds.Amalgamated@gmail.com
Ancient Egypt and the Greeks of Mycenae.It's time to set sail! We journey far from Egypt to visit lands only whispered about until now. We are visiting Greece and the lands of Mycenae, who in 1370 BCE were beginning to make their mark on the international scene.This episode was originally a "double feature" of Mycenae and Minoan Crete. At the final edit, I opted to remove Crete in order to streamline the story. Not to worry, an "Episode 102b" will follow in due course...Episode images and references at www.egyptianhistorypodcast.comMusic by Michael Levy www.ancientlyre.comMusic by Gabriel Yared www.gabrielyared.comSupport the Podcast and earn exclusive perks at www.patreon.com/egyptpodcast See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
An exploration of two queens: Hecuba and Leda. These two opposing matriarchs of Greek mythology's most prestigious royal families have more in common, than not. The Wonder Women of Greek Mythology series focuses on the female characters of the Trojan War era.
An exploration of two queens: Hecuba and Leda. These two opposing matriarchs of Greek mythology's most prestigious royal families have more in common, than not. The Wonder Women of Greek Mythology series focuses on the female characters of the Trojan War era.
An exploration of why Clytemnestra is one of the most powerful women in Greek mythology. The Wonder Women of Greek Mythology series focuses on the female characters of the Trojan War era.
An exploration of why Clytemnestra is one of the most powerful women in Greek mythology. The Wonder Women of Greek Mythology series focuses on the female characters of the Trojan War era.
Most of us have read Homer's “Iliad” either in high school or college, but few are likely to remember the details of the characters and places it mentions. It may seem surprising to you that I'd be talking about Homer on a history podcast. The reason I am is that Homer used real historical figures as characters in his writing which leads us to the place in the world I'm covering on this episode: Mycenae, or as it's often referred to, “Agamemnon's Mycenae.” In this episode, my guest is John Bennet, director of the British School at Athens. We discuss the historical Agamemnon from literature, the discovery of his mask and tomb, and how the historic Mycenaean people compare to their portrayal in literature. It's a fascinating conversation so I hope you'll join me. Agamemnon's Mycenae was a leading city and military stronghold. Mycenae is not a city that had to be discovered in order for it to be researched. Its location has been known right up until the modern era. Archeological work has revealed that it was a leading city of Greece in its day. It was clearly a military stronghold, including a citadel and town. John Bennet has spent a good deal of time at the site and is a wealth of information when it comes to what we know about the city and its inhabitants. I thoroughly enjoyed my conversation with him and discovered some fascinating facts about its history as well as the history of the people involved in its excavation. You'll enjoy our conversation. A Greek city for the elite, including a palace and ancestral tombs. The city of Mycenae is still quite impressive to this day, even though it's only ruins. From all that can be known it is fairly clear that the city was one of the largest cities in mainland Greece at the time, only eclipsed by Thebes (and not by much). It was a city for the elite, with a palace and many elaborate ancestral tombs. There are still remains of less impressive but still elaborate households surrounding the main structures of the city. Cities like this give a glimpse into what it must have been like to be a citizen of the Greek empire at its height. John Bennet knows these sites as well as anyone so I encourage you to hear his description of the history, people, and culture of what is known as Agamemnon's Mycenae. By 1200 B.C. Mycenae was no longer renewed as a military stronghold. It's clear from history that the city of Mycenae continued to be inhabited even after it's military stronghold was no longer in use. Though the population dwindled considerably the city remained a city-state in the same ways as places like Athens and Sparta were - all the way to 468 B.C. Mycenae was even included in the cities that opposed the Persians when they invaded in 468 B.C. John shares a good deal on this episode about the way of life in the city from its founding until it was no longer inhabited. It's a very interesting part of Greek history. What happened to make Mycenae uninhabited? It's always curious why a city that was once as palatial and large as Mycenae becomes uninhabited. Surely, with the rise and fall of empires, there are many possibilities. John says that there is evidence that around 1250 B.C. there was some kind of wide-spread burning that happened in the city, possibly the result of an earthquake. The city was then refortified and around 1200 B.C. some other sort of destruction happened. By 1100 B.C. Mycenae was a very small site and few people were living in palaces or inside of walls. In 468 B.C. it was destroyed by neighbors from the city of Argos, at which time it became a ruin. John and I talked more about the city, including what it's like today as an archeological site and what you should be certain to see if you visit. Outline of This Episode [0:11] My introduction to John Bennet, director of the British School at Athens [1:20] How John has worked to understand Mycenae and how he became interested in Greecian archeology. [4:00] The appearance of the Mycenaeans in Homer's Iliad and what we know about them from history. [7:13] What do we know about the way of life and details of Mycenae? [14:10] Why the city became uninhabited over time and the history of archeological excavations. [21:01] The role Howard Schliemann played in our understanding of Mycenae. [26:32] What we know about the real history of Agamemnon's mask and tomb. [28:51] The events at the site since 1999 and what's happening now. [33:26] How Mycenae has proven to be significant to Greek history and modern Greeks. [34:51] Things to make sure you see if you travel to Mycenae. [37:03] John's favorite spots in Mycenae. Resources & People Mentioned The British School at Athens University of Sheffield John Chadwick Michael Ventris BOOK: The Modern Scholar: History of Ancient Greece BOOK: The Oresteia: Agamemnon; The Libation Bearers; The Eumenides Hotels in Nafplio Howard Schliemann This Episode's Giveaway: The prize for this week is a $20 Amazon gift card. To enter, simply be a newsletter subscriber and leave a comment on this blog post. Giveaway ends Sunday, September 10, 2017 and midnight EST. This episode's sponsor: Click the add on the right column (bottom on mobile) to get this week's Audible offer. Connect With Stephanie stephanie@historyfangirl.com https://historyfangirl.com
Colm Tóibín in conversation with Scott Timberg at Live Talks Los Angeles, May 22, 2017, discussing the writing life and his upcoming novel, House of Names. The talk took place at the Moss Theatre in Santa Monica, CA. Colm Tóibín is the author of seven novels, including The Master, winner of the Los Angeles Times Book Prize; Brooklyn, winner of the Costa Book Award; The Testament of Mary, and Nora Webster, as well as two story collections. Three times shortlisted for the Man Booker Prize, Tóibín lives in Dublin and New York. He previously appeared at Live Talks Los Angeles to discuss James Baldwin’s Giovanni’s Room. Watch the video. In House of Names, Colm Tóibín brings a modern sensibility and language to an ancient classic, and gives this extraordinary character new life, so that we not only believe Clytemnestra’s thirst for revenge, but applaud it. He brilliantly inhabits the mind of one of Greek myth’s most powerful villains to reveal the love, lust, and pain she feels. Told in fours parts, this is a fiercely dramatic portrait of a murderess, who will herself be murdered by her own son, Orestes. It is Orestes’ story, too: his capture by the forces of his mother’s lover Aegisthus, his escape and his exile. And it is the story of the vengeful Electra, who watches over her mother and Aegisthus with cold anger and slow calculation, until, on the return of her brother, she has the fates of both of them in her hands. “I have been acquainted with the smell of death.” So begins Clytemnestra’s tale of her own life in ancient Mycenae, the legendary Greek city from which her husband King Agamemnon left when he set sail with his army for Troy. Clytemnestra rules Mycenae now, along with her new lover Aegisthus, and together they plot the bloody murder of Agamemnon on the day of his return after nine years at war. Judged, despised, cursed by gods she has long since lost faith in, Clytemnestra reveals the tragic saga that led to these bloody actions: how her husband deceived her eldest daughter Iphigeneia with a promise of marriage to Achilles, only to sacrifice her because that is what he was told would make the winds blow in his favor and take him to Troy; how she seduced and collaborated with the prisoner Aegisthus, who shared her bed in the dark and could kill; how Agamemnon came back with a lover himself; and how Clytemnestra finally achieved her vengeance for his stunning betrayal—his quest for victory, greater than his love for his child. Scott Timberg is a Los Angeles-based arts and culture writer. A former Los Angeles Times and Salon staffer, he writes these days for The Los Angeles Review of Books, The Paris Review online, LMU Magazine, and the New York Times. Timberg edited, with Dana Gioia, the anthology The Misread City: New Literary Los Angeles (Red Hen). He’s the author, most recently, of Culture Crash: The Killing of the Creative Class (Yale University Press), and runs the accompanying ArtsJournal blog CultureCrash. Follow him on Twitter at @TheMisreadCity.
The Trojan War. The Homeric epic poem The Iliad is now one of the most well-known Greek myths. Before the discoveries of Mycenae and Troy around the turn of the century, almost no one believed that the Trojan War had actually happened. Now, archaeological evidence from Troy and other Anatolian coastal cities, combined with letters and treaties found in Hittite archives give us a glimpse at a what may be the historical basis of the Trojan War. Homer tells us of black ships on Trojan shores and of epic clashes between heroes who were aided by the gods. The Hittite archives tell us of Mycenaean raiders on the Anatolian coast and of a Hittite king who moved in to quell a Mycenaean backed rebellion. Listen to this latest episode to see what is now known about the state of the Bronze Age world at the time Herodotus thought the Trojan War had been fought. Another wonderful edition of this terrific history series from Brandon Huebner.
In this episode, we discuss the archaeological evidence of the Mycenaean Greeks of the late Bronze Age (ca. 1650-1250 BC); particularly from the major palace centers in the Argolid at Mycenae and Tiryns, Athens in Attica, the island of Salamis, Thebes and Orchomenos in Boeotia, Iolcos in Thessaly, Amyclae (which is Sparta) in Laconia, and Pylos in Messenia; what the Linear B tablets can tell us about their society, economy, and religion; and their extensive trade network that spanned the entire Mediterranean Show Notes: http://www.thehistoryofancientgreece.com/2016/04/006-mycenaean-greece.html
In this episode, we discuss the archaeological evidence for the early Bronze Age on mainland Greece and the Cycladic Islands; the arrival of the Indo-Europeans in Greece (known as the proto-Greeks); and the rediscovery and excavation of three legendary Bronze Age cities (Troy, Knossos, and Mycenae) in the latter part of the 19th century AD by the infamous Heinrich Schliemann and Sir Arthur Evans that brought to light the Bronze Age peoples who would become known as the "Minoans" and "Mycenaeans" Show Notes: http://www.thehistoryofancientgreece.com/2016/04/004-early-bronze-age-greece.html
Listen to my podcast on Mycenae: Episode #36: The Mycenaean World MYCENAE After all these years of reading Homer, Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides, and marveling at Heinrich Schliemann’s fabulous discoveries, I finally made it to the Lion Gate at Mycenae! This place holds special meaning for me because the story of the Trojan War is my […]
Listen to my podcast on Mycenae: Episode #36: The Mycenaean World MYCENAE After all these years of reading Homer, Aeschylus, Sophocles, and Euripides, and marveling at Heinrich Schliemann’s fabulous discoveries, I finally made it to the Lion Gate at Mycenae! This place holds special meaning for me because the story of the Trojan War is my […]
Consider this, optimists. All the societies in the world can collapse simultaneously. It has happened before. In the 12th century BCE the great Bronze Age civilizations of the Mediterranean—all of them—suddenly fell apart. Their empires evaporated, their cities emptied out, their technologies disappeared, and famine ruled. Mycenae, Minos, Assyria, Hittites, Canaan, Cyprus—all gone. Even Egypt fell into a steep decline. The Bronze Age was over. The event should live in history as one of the great cautionary tales, but it hasn’t because its causes were considered a mystery. How can we know what to be cautious of? Eric Cline has taken on on the mystery. An archaeologist-historian at George Washington University, he is the author of 1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed. The failure, he suggests, was systemic. The highly complex, richly interconnected system of the world tipped all at once into chaos.
Today we delve into a grey area between myth and history: the Trojan War. The Homeric epic poem The Iliad is now one of the most well known Greek myths. Before the discoveries of Mycenae and Troy around the turn of the century, almost no one believed that the Trojan War had actually happened. Now, archaeological evidence from Troy and other Anatolian coastal cities, combined with letters and treaties found in Hittite archives give us a glimpse at a what may be the historical basis of the Trojan War. Homer tells us of black ships on Trojan shores and of epic clashes between heroes who were aided by the gods. The Hittite archives tell us of Mycenaean raiders on the Anatolian coast and of a Hittite king who moved in to quell a Mycenaean backed rebellion. Listen to today's episode to see what we now know about the state of the Bronze Age world at the time Herodotus thought the Trojan War had been fought. Show Notes Support the Podcast
In order to set the stage for the Hebrews and their arrival on the world stage, we must paint a picture of world as of the date of 1500 BC. In order to do this, we will be discussing the Western World and its colonization back to the descendants of Japheth, son of Noah. Japheth's sons and their families and descendants are responsible for the Greek settlements of Mycenae and the Minoan Civilization. We will be discussing the roots of these civilizations and especially the fall of the Minoans.
Did the Trojan War actually happen? What evidence do we have on – or rather in – the ground for Troy and the world of heroes, magnificent cities and rich objects which Homer describes? In this lecture Dr Gillian Shepherd looks at some of the issues in identifying “Homer’s Troy” and the glories of Late Bronze Age Greece, especially Mycenae, home of Agamemnon – much of which is indeed described by Homer. Copyright 2013 Gillian Shepherd / La Trobe University, all rights reserved. Contact for permissions.
Did the Trojan War actually happen? What evidence do we have on – or rather in – the ground for Troy and the world of heroes, magnificent cities and rich objects which Homer describes? In this lecture Dr Gillian Shepherd looks at some of the issues in identifying “Homer’s Troy” and the glories of Late Bronze Age Greece, especially Mycenae, home of Agamemnon – much of which is indeed described by Homer. Copyright 2013 Gillian Shepherd / La Trobe University, all rights reserved. Contact for permissions.
Mycenae, a hilltop fortress located on the Peloponnesian Peninsula SW of Athens was the hub of a mighty civilization that dominated the Greek world between 1600 and 1200 B.C., a thousand years before Athens' Golden Age. The Mycenaeans were as distant and mysterious to the Golden Age Greeks as Plato and Socrates are to us today. Mycenae lay unappreciated until the 19th century when a treasure trove of gold was unearthed in the necropolis. Today, those treasures, including the so-called "Mask of Agamemnon" are the star attractions in Athens' National Archaeological Museum. This discovery affirmed the archeologists' theory that Mycenae was Homer's fabled city "rich in gold." For more information on the Rick Steves' Europe TV series — including episode descriptions, scripts, participating stations, travel information on destinations and more — visit www.ricksteves.com.
Mycenae, a hilltop fortress located on the Peloponnesian Peninsula SW of Athens was the hub of a mighty civilization that dominated the Greek world between 1600 and 1200 B.C., a thousand years before Athens' Golden Age. The Mycenaeans were as distant and mysterious to the Golden Age Greeks as Plato and Socrates are to us today. Mycenae lay unappreciated until the 19th century when a treasure trove of gold was unearthed in the necropolis. Today, those treasures, including the so-called "Mask of Agamemnon" are the star attractions in Athens' National Archaeological Museum. This discovery affirmed the archeologists' theory that Mycenae was Homer's fabled city "rich in gold." For more information on the Rick Steves' Europe TV series — including episode descriptions, scripts, participating stations, travel information on destinations and more — visit www.ricksteves.com.
sermon transcript Introduction When you think of eternity, what comes to mind? It is hard for us finite creatures to get our thoughts around eternity. Some time ago, I read a survey of history from a secular writer who was grappling with eternity. He came up with an analogy of a mountain in a vast plain. Once a day, a sparrow came from a horizon far away, and would take away from this huge mountain a single pebble and drop it into the ocean. The next day, it would do the same. When the mountain had been leveled to the the plain, that was one day of eternity. That is a secular writer trying to grapple with the infinitude of time. The Bible talks about God as an eternal God. Our text says that Abraham called on Yahweh, or the Lord, El Olam, the God of eternity. What an incredible title that is for God. The text speaks in a very plain and simple way of a covenant, an agreement, a treaty between two persons, between Abimelech and Abraham concerning a well and the relations that they would have in an ongoing sense. We have this immense, eternal God, and this rather mundane interaction between two people in every day life. That is the mystery of life for us as Christians — eternity into time. In our everyday business, tasks, relationships, work here in this world, we call on Yahweh, El Olam, the eternal God. The connection of the two in this passage is in another verse, Hebrews 13:20: “May the God of peace, who through the blood of the eternal covenant brought back from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great Shepherd of the sheep, equip you with everything good for doing his will…” This text in Genesis 21 is about a temporal covenant made in the eyes of an eternal God, but it is a picture of the blood of the one eternal covenant that saves our souls. The Father and the Son made this agreement before time began, from eternity past, before there was a sun or a moon or stars, by which we set time. Before any of that happened, there was an agreement between the Father and the Son — that is the eternal covenant — that if the Father would give the beloved ones to the Son, the Son would pour out His blood for them. He would die in their place, and make for them an eternal resting place. Simply put, the eternal covenant benefits aliens and strangers and pilgrims. Abraham lived in Abimelech’s land. The king wanted to remind Abraham that Abraham was living on his land by temporary covenant, that Abraham dwelt in the land of the Philistines as an alien and a stranger, passing through. But the covenant made on your behalf to give you a resting place is eternal, if you are a believer in Christ. Jesus said [John 14:20-3], “My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.” That is what the eternal covenant is all about. The seven ewe lambs were a sign or a witness between Abraham and Abimelech that the well belonged to Abraham. So also the blood of Christ is a sign and witness to us that God eternally has determined to bring believers in Christ to Himself, that we would have an eternal resting place. All the rest is details which are interesting, but it is the eternal covenant that I trust in for my salvation, that I am resting in. The tamarisk tree that Abraham planted and the well that they bickered over are gone. Life is flying by; time is moving on. Every week brings us closer to Judgment Day. Every week, we age, we see material things around us become old and decrepit and we have to replace them. Trees that are planted die, but there is an eternal God who has made for us an eternal covenant in Christ, and He is saying that some day we will be with Him in paradise. I look forward to that. Abraham’s Mixed Witness Abimelech’s Spiritual Observation The context in Genesis 21 is of God’s faithfulness in keeping His word to Abraham and Sarah. At the beginning of the chapter, God fulfilled this promise at last, and little miracle baby Isaac was born. God also fulfilled His promise to Ishmael, that He would protect him and care for him, even though he was cast out from the family at God’s command. He and his mother Hagar went out into the desert where God provided and protected Ishmael. Isaac and Ishmael had different promises, but we see in both cases, God faithful to fulfill His promise — He is faithful to His word. However, even the best of God’s people are not faithful to their word. The Scripture says, “All men are liars.” Abraham was now eating the fruit of his past behavior with Abimelech. He had told him a lie. He had a mixed witness to him. Abimelech could look at his life and see God’s hand of blessing on it, but he also remembered how Abraham behaved when he lied about Sarah, saying she was his sister. That almost got Abimelech killed. God in Genesis 20 spoke to Abimelech who was considering taking Sarah to be his wife based on the word that Abraham had given him that she was his sister. He was going to take her, but already God’s hand of curse was on Abimelech and his household. They were physically ill with physical problems such that the women could not conceive and bear children. God warned Abimelech in a dream saying, “You’re as good as a dead man because of this woman that you have taken because she is another man’s wife.” Then Abimelech called Abraham in and said, “What is this you have done to me? You have done things to me that ought not to have been done, you lied to me.” As he sought to make a treaty, the mixed witness and the results of it here are having their effect. Verse 22 says, “At that time Abimelech and Phicol the commander of his forces said to Abraham, ‘God is with you in everything you do.’” That is the good part. Abimelech’s Painful Memory But then he says in verse 23, “Now swear to me here before God that you will not deal falsely with me or my children or my descendants.” That is the bad part. Abimelech was asking Abraham not to lie to him anymore, to deal well with him. Abimelech feared Abraham, and he knew that God was with him and could wipe Abimelech out. Abimelech knew He is a powerful, eternal God. He did not trust Abraham, but he saw God’s hand of blessing. That is a mixed witness. What did he mean when he said, “God is with you in everything that you do?” Isaac had been born already. This must have been a very striking testimony to Abimelech who knew Abraham’s family well, that they had no child, that Sarah was an aged woman at this point, 90 years old and beyond, and Abraham 100 years old. They had had no children all those many years, and now here was miracle baby Isaac. Abimelech recognized that this could not happen except that God was with Abraham in everything that he did. He also saw at a lesser level the material prosperity of Abraham’s life — the cattle and sheep, the possessions, the silver and gold. Abraham was a wealthy man, and there was the principle of blessing. We do not have record of Abraham’s conversations with Abimelech, but perhaps they had time to talk about the visions and the promises that God had made to Abraham. When Abimelech said God was with Abraham in everything he did, there was a history there. That is the good witness that Abraham presented. “My God is a powerful God — He is a promise-making God, and He is a promise-keeping God.” Now he had a baby to prove it, after waiting for 25 years since God first called him to that land to roam. Abimelech saw God’s hand in everything, but he also remembered his problem with Abraham and asked him not to deal falsely, to deceive, to lie to him anymore, but to deal well with him. Abimelech’s Desire Abimelech desired a treaty of covenant with Abraham. Verse 24 says, “Show to me and the country where you are living as an alien the same kindness I have shown to you.” He reminded Abraham of the kindness he had shown in letting him live in his land, that he was a guest there. At the same time, he introduced Abraham to Phicol, the commander of his army. Was he there only as a friend and witness to the covenant? No, most likely it was to give Abraham the sense that Abimelech was not bargaining from an inferior position. There was a concern there. Abraham is reminded once again, as Stephen said to the Sanhedrin concerning the land and concerning Abraham in Acts 7:5: “[God] gave him no inheritance here, not even a foot of ground. But God promised him that he and his descendants after him would possess the land.” He gave Abraham nothing. Everywhere he went, he lived in tents. He roamed through the land, a stranger and an alien in Philistine land. It says concerning Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in Hebrews 11:13-16: “All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance. And they admitted that they were aliens and strangers on earth. People who say such things show that they are looking for a country of their own. If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. Instead, they were longing for a better country — a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.” Abraham’s Oath of Friendship Abimelech was saying, “Please do not forget that you are here at my leave, as my guest. Show me the same kindness that I showed to you and swear an oath or a treaty of covenant friendship with me.” Abraham said simply, “I swear it.” He made a covenant oath, which was sacred to both Abimelech and to Abraham, performed in a solemn ceremony of covenant oath-taking. Hebrews 6:16 says, “…the oath confirms what is said and puts an end to all argument.” Abraham’s Complaint An Alien with a Grievance However, there was still a matter to be discussed. Abraham brought a complaint to Abimelech — even though he was an alien and a stranger, he still had a grievance: “Then Abraham complained to Abimelech about a well of water that Abimelech's servants had seized.” This well Abraham had commissioned was his by rights, and when Abraham made this treaty with Abimelech, he testified to this very fact when he said, “Accept these seven lambs from my hand as a witness that I dug this well.” This was a significant issue to Abraham. In my opinion, it was the issue that brought Abimelech and Phicol there to begin with, even though Abimelech said in verse 26, “I don’t know who has done this. You did not tell me, and I heard about it only today.” Whether Abimelech was lying to Abraham or had only heard that specifically who had done it and what the issues were, this was a very serious matter. In the Negev, in the desert, where they were living, water was life. Wars have been fought between desert tribes over wells of water, so this was a brewing conflict between Abraham and Abimelech. Phicol the commander of the Philistine army was there, but Abraham had his army too. He had defeated undefeated Kedorlaomer and had 318 men he could put on a horse at that point. But those 318 men did not mean a thing. What mattered was that God was with Abraham in everything he did, and Abimelech saw the promise of blessing in Abraham’s life. Abimelech was saying he did not want to fight Abraham over the well and wanted instead to make a treaty — a covenant and a friendship. A Serious Matter The search for water is a fascinating one. Historically, diviners have used rods, sticks in the shape of an upside down capital Y. They walk around holding the top of the Y in both hands, and where the stick bends down, supposedly there is water underground. Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism, was a water diviner before he found a better line of work founding a mythological religion called Mormonism. He sold his services to search for water. One can never be quite sure where subterranean water is, and it is difficult and expensive to dig or drill a well. Once water is found, it is life itself — better than finding hidden gold in the desert, because gold cannot sustain life. It seems that Abimelech’s servants — his soldiers or some of his men — had taken over this well and were not letting Abraham use it. This was a very serious matter. I read recently about a French scientist named Alain Gaché working in the desert of Chad. He uses space age technology, a certain kind of radar that reads 60 feet below the surface of the earth which can find subterranean water. The space shuttle has made a topological map for him, and he has put the coordinates in his GPS. He has found water with 100% accuracy and dug six wells. This is important because right now in the Darfur region of Sudan, there is a terrible civil war, and there are 200,000 refugees out there in that desert in Chad. This is literally life for those refugees, many of whom are our brothers and sisters in Christ. They are suffering and dying because of the conflict in Sudan. About 300 years before the time of Christ, there was an oft-forgotten kingdom called the Nabataean empire, Arab in descent. They traveled through the desert and whenever threatened, for example by the Romans or the Greeks, they could retreat into the Negev, the desert region we are looking at today. No one could follow them there, because they had a genius for finding subterranean water and digging wells and cisterns to collect rain. They would then cover them over so that they could not be detected. They had certain signs and symbols that they alone knew so that they could water their animals and themselves to survive, but no one following them into the desert could survive. Water is life in the desert. Abimelech’s Declaration of Ignorance As before, Abimelech declared ignorance. Verse 26: “But Abimelech said, ‘I don't know who has done this. You did not tell me, and I heard about it only today.’” Abimelech took it very seriously, and he dealt with it seriously, which is why he wanted a treaty of friendship with Abraham, for he feared the God of Abraham. The Treaty at Beersheba A Covenant and a Return Gift In verses 27-32, the two seal the treaty of Beersheba: “So Abraham brought sheep and cattle and gave them to Abimelech, and the two men made a treaty. Abraham set apart seven ewe lambs from the flock, and Abimelech asked Abraham, ‘What is the meaning of these seven ewe lambs you have set apart by themselves?’ He replied, ‘Accept these seven lambs from my hand as a witness that I dug this well.’ So that place was called Beersheba, because the two men swore an oath there. After the treaty had been made at Beersheba, Abimelech and Phicol the commander of his forces returned to the land of the Philistines.” So this matter was sealed with a covenant. The covenant was a binding solemn agreement between two or more parties. Baptists, unlike Presbyterians, do not think a lot about covenants, but we should. Hebrews 13:20 says that we were saved by the blood of an eternal covenant, an agreement between the Father and the Son. No matter what we believe about infant baptism or the covenant theology, we are saved by that covenant, the eternal covenant. Throughout the Old Testament especially, we see covenants coming in again and again. This was more of an everyday covenant concerning the well and the relationship that there would be between Abraham and Abimelech. To seal it, Abraham gave a return gift of livestock, seven ewe lambs. They were probably part of the original gift that Abimelech had given to Abraham, and he was willing to give back some of it, so that there would be a good relationship between the two. It was a seven-fold witness — the seven lambs were set off as a special sign, to say that every time Abimelech looked at these lambs or their offspring, he would remember that Abraham dug the well. The meaning of the name of the place, Beersheba, is slightly unclear — either “well of the seven” or “well of the oath”, but either way, the name commemorated the covenant of friendship between Abraham and Abimelech. The Future of Beersheba In Genesis 26, the exact same thing will happen again over the same well, but between Isaac and Abimelech and Phicol. Beyond that, it would be included in the land that Joshua conquers, and would become part of the Promised Land. Some day, Abraham’s descendants would own Beersheba. 1 Samuel 3:20 says, “And all Israel from Dan to Beersheba recognized that Samuel was attested as a prophet of the LORD.” From Dan to Beersheba, all the Jews assembled and made David their king. Dan was the furthest north, and Beersheba, on the Negev, the furthest south. This well was part of the Promised Land. Having made the covenant, Abraham planted a tamarisk tree. Genesis 21:32-34 says, “After the treaty had been made at Beersheba, Abimelech and Phicol the commander of his forces returned to the land of the Philistines. Abraham planted a tamarisk tree in Beersheba, and there he called upon the name of the LORD, the Eternal God.” This would be an oasis of rest for a weary pilgrim like Abraham and his household. The tamarisk is a desert dwelling tree with narrow leaves; it does not have much surface area, so not a lot of water evaporates off, and it can stay green 365 days a year. It is a great desert dwelling tree, and it provided shade in a shadeless place for Abraham. The tree was a symbol of permanence in an impermanent world for Abraham, so it symbolized Abraham’s sense of rest and peace and security in his pilgrim life. Finally, verse 34 says, “And Abraham stayed in the land of the Philistines for a long time.” He lived there for a long time, but it was still the land of the Philistines. The Future of Abimelech and the Philistines Who Were the Philistines? This encounter with Abraham and Abimelech is the first time we meet the Philistines in the Bible. The Philistines are a major player in the book of Judges, and then in the books of Samuel, with David, with Saul and with Samuel. Originally the Philistines came from a place called Caphtor. Amos 9:7 says, “‘Are not you Israelites the same to me as the Cushites?' declares the LORD. ‘Did I not bring Israel up from Egypt and the Philistines from Caphtor?’” Archaeology has shown that Caphtor is probably the Island of Crete in the Eastern Mediterranean, but also that the pattern of lifestyle of the Philistines — the way they made pottery, their language and their entire system — was similar to the Mycenaeans and the Peloponnesos. Mycenae is where the wars with Troy originated. King Agamemnon and Helen of Troy and Achilles were Mycenaean. It is fascinating that they would fight battles in the same way. When they faced another army, they would send out their champion, and the other side would send out their champion, and the two of them would fight it out. Whoever won would seal victory for their entire army — it was all down to the two champions. In 1 Samuel 17:4-10, “Goliath stood and shouted to the ranks of Israel, ‘Why do you come out and line up for battle? Am I not a Philistine, and are you not the servants of Saul? Choose a man and have him come down to me. If he is able to fight and kill me, we will become your subjects; but if I overcome him and kill him, you will become our subjects and serve us.’ Then the Philistine said, ‘This day I defy the ranks of Israel! Give me a man and let us fight each other.’” It all came down to hand-to-hand combat between two individuals. That is very Mycenaean, very Greek. That is what the Philistines were. Praise God for David, who came out in the name of the Lord and took a sling and down went Goliath. Unlike Achilles and Hector, he did not drag his body around. He beheaded him and kept the head as a symbol of his victory. Philistines Could Have Been Blessed This is significant because the Philistines were constant enemies of the people of God, but it need not have been that way. In Genesis 15, God listed the names of the nations that would be wiped out to a person by the Israelites when they came in and took the land. The Philistines were not included among them. The Philistines could have lived in peace and under the blessing of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. God said when He called Abraham, “I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you, I will curse.” Abimelech and Phicol blessed Abraham, and as a result, they received a blessing. The blessing was that while Abraham’s family was still around — Isaac’s twin sons, Jacob and Esau, were 12 years old in Genesis 26 — they would have long life, long rain, peace and security. That is what God did for those Philistines. God Keeps His Promises... and His Warnings But at some point, they became enemies of the people of God, and came under the judgment of God as a result. Jeremiah 47:4 says, “The LORD is about to destroy the Philistines, the remnant from the coasts of Caphtor.” God means what he says. That is what Genesis 21 is all about. What God says, He means. He keeps the promises he makes and He upholds the warnings he gives. If you make a treaty of friendship with Him through faith in Jesus Christ, He will give you eternal life, but woe to you if you oppose his Son. Our God is a promise-making and a promise-keeping God. The Eternal God The final note in this text is this issue of the eternal God. Genesis 21:33 says, “Abraham planted a tamarisk tree in Beersheba, and there he called upon the name of the LORD, the Eternal God.” Yahweh El Olam, “our God is an eternal God.” That means He is timeless. He is changeless. What God’s omnipresence is to Him concerning the boundary of space, His eternity is concerning the boundary of time. He never changes. He never dies. He lives forever and ever. He is the eternal God. Therefore, the name Yahweh is The Great I Am. He says, I AM. Jesus said, “Before Abraham was born, I AM.” It says in the book of Revelation, “He is the God who is, and who was, and who is to come.” He is the Almighty. This is the eternal God. Humanity is bound by time, just as we are bound by space. We cannot be in more than one place at one time, and we cannot see what will happen even the next instant. We do not know anything about the future. But God sees the beginning from the end and the end from the beginning. He is the eternal God. We mark time by the passing of events, but God does not. About 500 years later, a descendant of Abraham named Moses wrote a beautiful Psalm. Psalm 90:1-4 says, “Lord, you have been our dwelling place throughout all generations. Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God. You turn men back to dust, saying, ‘Return to dust, O sons of men.’ For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.” Moses traveled from place to place with the people of God before they entered the Promised Land. Like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob before him, he was a pilgrim, a stranger, a wanderer on this earth. And so are we. You may think you have a permanent home, that the things you possess are really yours, that situations that you are in are lasting and permanent, but nothing that you can see with your eyes or hear with your ears or experience in this physical world is eternal. Nothing, including the human relationships that you treasure on earth will last, but spiritual things are forever. Our God, in His eternal nature, is our only hope. Therefore, we trust in a God who, before anything was created, made a blood covenant with Jesus that we would be saved. Applications A Life of Integrity First, in a very simple way, live a life of integrity before a watching world. Jesus Christ came to bring a kingdom. He is the King of Heaven, and he came to testify to a kingdom. When he was standing in front of Pontius Pilate, Pilate said, “So you are a king?” Jesus said, “You are right in saying that I am a king. For this reason, I came into the world. For this I was born and for this I came into the world to testify to the truth. All on the side of the truth listen to me.” So Jesus’ kingdom is a kingdom of truth. How can we witness to the world if we lie? How can we present to the Abimelechs of our world, the people who are observing our life, any kind of a witness at all, if we are not living up to the calling that we have received, if we are dishonest, if we are deceptive as Abraham was? In John 14:6 Jesus said, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” The Gospel that we preach is a message of truth. Christians are called to love and obey the truth. Consistency therefore, is key to our witness that we present to the watching world. Paul says in 2 Corinthians 4:2, “We have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.” Live carefully in this world. Mean what you say and say what you mean. Wives, do not lie to your husbands, and husbands, do not lie to your wives. Children, do not learn the habits of telling falsehoods to your parents. It is hard to undo that habit. Lingering Poison of Lies It is also hard to undo the poison and the impact of a lie in a relationship. What is on Abimelech’s mind as he comes to Abraham at this point? You lied to me. How can I trust you? When a lie has come into a significant relationship — husband-wife, parent-child, friend-friend — it is difficult to undo that lie. You can only hope that as in Abimelech’s case, grace will cover the transgression and the relationship can continue to flourish. Say, “I was deceptive. I am a liar in my heart, but God is transforming me, and thank you for being gracious. Thank you for believing the covenant that I am making with you that we will have a good relationship between the two of us.” A lie can be difficult, and therefore, on the front end before sin, do not do it. On the back side, grace can cover, but do not lie — it is a poison in a relationship. Dealing with conflict Third, we see from this account how to deal with conflict. The world is full of sinners, and therefore the world is full of conflict. It makes sense. There could have been a war over this well; there could have been a big problem, but both of them rose above that and made a treaty of friendship. Those treaties are only as good as the characters of those that make them. You know how many treaties Hitler made before World War II and broke? How many promises he made and broke? You can make a treaty, but it is not worth the paper it is printed on if you are a liar and a deceiver. But we can see here the efforts, as it says in Scripture, to live at peace with all men as far as it depends on you, and that is what this text calls us to. Spring of Living Water Finally, I cannot end except with Jesus Christ. Some time later, Jesus was sitting by another well that Jacob had given to his descendants that was still being used. A Samaritan woman came, and Jesus wanted to talk to her about a different kind of water, so he enticed her into a discussion. “Yes, you come here every day to draw water because you need it to live, but I want to talk to you about something else.” “‘If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water.’ ‘Sir,’ the woman said, ‘you have nothing to draw with and the well is deep. Where can you get this living water? Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did also his sons and his flocks and herds?’ Jesus answered, ‘Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again, but whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life.’” [John 4:10-14] Do you know that? Have you experienced that? Are you experiencing it right now? Are you satisfied with Jesus? There are all kinds of muddy wells around that seem to promise satisfaction, but which do not. When you drink from them, you will thirst again. Material prosperity, popularity, worldly success, human relationships, or any one of a number of other counterfeits are all wells that will not satisfy, but Jesus has come to give you life and give it to you abundantly and eternally. Are you drinking from him as a deer pants for water? Are you hungering, are you thirsting for fellowship with God? Jesus Christ came to give you that very thing. He is the Lord, the eternal God. He came to give you eternal life.