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“Every rejection gets you where you're meant to be.” – Tuula Costelloe Today's featured author is playwright and actress, Tuula Costelloe. Tuula and I had a fun on a bun chat about her debut novel, “Mercy”, the concept of "edgy empathy", and more!Key Things You'll Learn:Tuula's journey from acting to writingWhy creating meaningful art is importantWhy euthanasia is covered in her novelThe concept of "edgy empathy" and its significance in her workTuula's Site: https://youtube.com/@tuulliminatiwrites?si=iby6qcF0YcBfsyV1Tuula's Book: https://a.co/d/eyPt7FxThe opening track is titled, "Set Sail" by Sparks Dynamite. To listen to and download the full track, click the following link. https://planetastroproductions.bandcamp.com/track/set-sail-intro Please support today's podcast to keep this content coming! CashApp: $DomBrightmonDonate on PayPal: @DBrightmonBuy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/dombrightmonGet Going North T-Shirts, Stickers, and More: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/dom-brightmonThe Going North Advancement Compass: https://a.co/d/bA9awotYou May Also Like…Ep. 397 – “Make Your Own Break” with Jennifer Lieberman (@iamjenlieberman): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-397-make-your-own-break/Ep. 946 – How Stories Drive Impact and Inspire Action with Autumn Karen (@autumncarrying): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-946-how-stories-drive-impact-and-inspire-action-with-autumn-karen-autumncarrying/Ep. 698 – “From Scrubs to Award-Winning Stories” with Debra Blaine (@debrablainemd): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-698-from-scrubs-to-award-winning-stories-with-debra-blaine-debrablainemd/Ep. 666 – “In the Grimdark Strands of the Spinneret” with Keith Anthony Baird (@kabauthor): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-666-in-the-grimdark-strands-of-the-spinneret-with-keith-anthony-baird-kabauthor/Ep. 368.5 – “Hollystone Mysteries” with W.L. Hawkin (@ladyhawke1003): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-3685-hollystone-mysteries-with-wl-hawkin-ladyhawke1003/

This week, I am continuing our Canadian food feature by looking at some of our favourite Canadian snacks and treats. We will talk about the history of popular snacks like:Hawkin's CheeziesHickory SticksKetchup ChipsPizza Pops, a Winnipeg invention.Coffee Crisp Eat-MoreBig TurkLucky Elephant PopcornJos LouisSo sit back and listen as I unwrap the stories behind our favourite Canadian snacks and treats.Please rate and review if you like this show. Share with your friends. Thanks for listening!You can message me at: @theaimlesscook on Instagram or on Facebook.Peace. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

About Our Guest ⁠James ⁠is the Managing Director for Asia-Pacific at Hawkin Dynamics best known for their force plates. He has had an outstanding career working at the Adelaide Crows, Brisbane Lions, University of Oregon and the Philadelphia Eagles. Australia Sports Innovation Week This episode is brought to you by the ⁠⁠⁠⁠Australia Sports Tech Conference⁠⁠⁠⁠, the Southern Hemisphere's largest and most respected sports technology industry event. This year's edition is happening on Thursday, October 24th in Melbourne, Victoria. Agenda, tickets, and more info available at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://stws.co/conference-australia⁠⁠⁠⁠ _____ Subscribe to the Sports Tech Feed newsletter. Your source for in-depth sports technology insights, news, and analysis: ⁠⁠⁠sportstechfeed.substack.com⁠

The Program Guyz break down Oklahoma's first SEC win where OU beat the War Eagles 27-21. Michael Hawkins makes his first start for the Oklahoma Sooners in Auburn, Alabama. Seth Litrell's Oklahoma offense continues to struggle as Zac Alley and his defense take care of business. Still a lot of work to do for Brent Venables and his team, but we'll take the W. 

Part 2 of my interview with Mark, plus the Raft Race, Gunwen, Lamorna and a little be more. 

Me and Jeremy actually met while working together at the PCC (Polynesian cultural center) located here in Laie! One day on my way home from work I saw him walking home and felt I should stop and ask if he needed a ride and now, we are good buddies! At that point I talked with him about my podcast and now he is here sharing his story! Such a cool story! Keep the conversation going in the comments! 1) What was your favorite part of this episode? 2) Who should we interview next? 3) How do we better prepare for the temple? Jeremy's Instagram - @palagiboiofficial

Did you see the force plates at the NFL Combine? They were Hawkin Dynamics plates. Wonder what data they were collecting and what for? Find out in this episode of Research Tuesday. And if you don't already, get yourself a pair of Hawkin's force plates - link below. ___TRY US OUT:24 hour access for ONLY $1: https://strengthcoachnetwork.com/monthly-order___CONNECT:

Lion and Hawkin make a drink and talk very fast about things they love. Hawkin makes the case for their Top 5 Games list and spicy things. Lion gets distracted by dice and tells embarrassing stories. Two lore nerds dive into DND, video games, coffee, fluidity, and much, much more. Spoiler: you're not ready for Glitterbomb.Follow Hawkin: https://www.twitch.tv/hawkinaroundEdit by AlecTheCleric @ Transmutation Media➭ https://twitter.com/AlecTheCleric➭ https://twitter.com/Transmute_MediaStay classy, kiddos! Follow SpeakingLion on Twitch | TikTok | YouTube | Instagram | Twitter | Threads. New episodes of DLC Required every week!

"When you start to write, you're almost opening up this magic chest, gaining access to different parts of your brain that may not be available to you when you're speaking." - Lâle DavidsonToday's featured award-winning author is a mom, wife, distinguished professor, and spellbinding storyteller, Lâle Davidson. Lâle and I had a fun on a bun chat about her books, lessons learned from her students, and tons more!!! Key Things You'll Learn:How journaling can unleash your inner magic as a writerLâle's writing process and why it's important to discover your ownThe significance of trees in Norse mythology and what role they play in some of Lâle's workWhy English teachers don't need to be afraid of artificial intelligence Lâle's Site: https://laledavidson.com/Lâle's Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B09KM58MFQ/allbooks The opening track is titled "Kareru R Daichi Q-MIX" by Rukunetsu AKA Project R (@Rukunetsu). Use the following link to hear the full track and support his craft. https://on.soundcloud.com/62w8XPlease support today's podcast to keep this content coming! CashApp: $DomBrightmonDonate on PayPal: @DBrightmonBuy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/dombrightmonGet Going North T-Shirts, Stickers, and More: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/dom-brightmon You Might Also Like… Ep. 537 – “If Trees Could Talk” with Holly Worton (@hollyworton): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-537-if-trees-could-talk-with-holly-worton-hollyworton/ Ep. 368.5 – “Hollystone Mysteries” with W.L. Hawkin (@ladyhawke1003): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-3685-hollystone-mysteries-with-wl-hawkin-ladyhawke1003/ Ep. 716 – “The Mind of an Academic Entrepreneur” with Nancy K. Napier, Ph.D.: https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-716-the-mind-of-an-academic-entrepreneur-with-nancy-k-napier-phd/ Ep. 602 – “How to Unlock Your Creative Potential” with Robin Landa (@rlanda): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-602-how-to-unlock-your-creative-potential-with-robin-landa-rlanda/ Ep. 778 – How High-Value Writing Can Transform Your Workplace Communication with Erin Lebacqz (@ErinLebacqz): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-778-how-high-value-writing-can-transform-your-workplace-communication-with-erin-lebacqz-erin/ Ep. 301 – “Transformative Creativity” with Firdaus Kharas (@Culture_Shift): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-301-transformative-creativity-with-firdaus-kharas-culture_shift/ Ep. 332 – “Her Perfect Life” with Hank Phillippi Ryan (@HankPRyan): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-332-her-perfect-life-with-hank-phillippi-ryan-hankpryan/ Ep. 472 – “From Academia to Entrepreneurship” with Dr. Emily Crookston (@EMCrookston): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-472-from-academia-to-entrepreneurship-with-dr-emily-crookston-emcrookston/ Ep. 358.5 – “Letters From My Students” with Dr. Miguel Hernandez (@Dr41Miguel): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-3585-letters-from-my-students-with-dr-miguel-hernandez-dr41miguel/ Ep. 311 – “Works of Urban Mythopoeia” with Cat Rambo (@Catrambo): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-311-works-of-urban-mythopoeia-with-cat-rambo-catrambo/ Ep. 723 – “Love Lingers Still” with Marinda Dennis: https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-723-love-lingers-still-with-marinda-dennis/ Ep. 443 – “Buried Beneath” with Kelly Ann Hopkins (@khopkinswrites): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-433-buried-beneath-with-kelly-ann-hopkins-khopkinswrites/ Ep. 581 – “Teaching Writing at the Collegiate Level” with Luanne Smith (@luannesmith56): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-581-teaching-writing-at-the-collegiate-level-with-luanne-smith-luannesmith56/ Ep. 779 – Speaking to Influence with Dr. Laura Sicola (@LauraSicola): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-779-speaking-to-influence-with-dr-laura-sicola-laurasicola/ Ep. 598 – “An Awakening” with Shiva Kumar (@shivaarc1242): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-598-an-awakening-with-shiva-kumar-shivaarc1242/

Today we have the lovely Amanda Hawkin's here to share her birth stories. After having her first born in a hospital and feeling like she could've done it better by herself, she goes on to choose free birth for her next two births. She shares just how normal it felt to birth in the comfort of her home with her husband. Go follow Amanda on IG @amandahawkinsbirthkeeper Interested in working with me or being on the podcast? Hey mama - are you pregnant and dreaming of a natural birth but fear is taking over? Or maybe you had a traumatic birth that you haven't yet resolved? I got you! Let's work together so you can be more aligned with your dream birth. ~Fearless Mama Birth Coaching: ⁠https://sacred-womb-doula.com/doulaservices/p/fearless-mama-birth-coaching-package⁠ ~Birth Trauma Debriefing Session: ⁠https://sacred-womb-doula.com/doulaservices/p/birth-trauma-debriefing-session⁠ ~Healing Birth Wounds Journal: ⁠https://a.co/d/bPlnojh⁠ Let's be birth besties! Connect with me on IG: @sacredwomb.doula

Tonight, we serve T-E-ATeatime with Miss Liz on January 18th, 7 PM EST. Meet my guest, WL Hawkin, a returning guest from season three. She is coming to share her “Hollystone Mystery Series” and other books with updates. Bring us all a twist on urban fantasy murder with a twist. Join us with your questions, comments likes and shares for support on making a difference together. Check out Miss Liz's YouTube channel for a strong real-life tea. Please give it a subscribe and ring the bell to be notified when teatime is live. https://youtube.com/@misslizsteatimes?si=82TRnp2cXNU-1ulvW. L. Hawkin writes “edgy urban fantasy with a twist of murder” from her loft near Vancouver, B.C.Her novels—To Charm a Killer, To Sleep with Stones, To Render a Raven, and To Kill a King each stand alone but form the Hollystone Mysteries series. This coven of West Coast witches and their eccentric friends solve murders using ritual magic and a little help from the gods. Although she's an introvert, in each book, her characters go on a journey where Hawkin's travelled. She researches all her locales (Ireland, Scotland, the B.C. Coast) to soak up the sensory landscape. In 2017, she climbed Croghan Hill in Ireland to survey the land her king would rule in To Kill a King, a romantic time-travel thriller set in Iron Age Ireland. A seeker and mystic fascinated by language, archaeology, and mythology, Hawkin graduated from Trent University, Ontario, and has post-bac diplomas from SFU in B.C. Her background in Indigenous Studies and Humanities informs her work. She found her voice publishing poetry and Native Rights articles in Canadian news magazines and is now an Indie author/publisher at Blue Haven Press. http://bluehavenpress.com@followers Miss Liz's Tea Making a Difference#misslizsteatimes#meetmyguest#SubscribeNow#urbanfantasy#authorlife#writers#OpenDiscussion#WorkingTogetherToMakeADifference#podcastshow#ShareThisPost#LikeFollowShare

Twin wolves howled beneath a turquoise crescent moon, their bushy manes wild and ruffled and knotted by the winds of change. “It's us. You over my heart, and me beside you. It's our destiny.”In the captivating sequel of To Kill a King, ancient magic collides with modern trickery, when a Wicca high priest embarks on a thrilling journey to defy the boundaries of time and challenge the very fabric of destiny. This gripping urban fantasy novel follows Estrada who, armed with extraordinary powers, ventures into the past hoping to alter Michael Stryker's future. A maelstrom of unforeseen events unfolds, weaving an intricate web of chaos that changes the course of history itself. For in the intricate tapestry of time, even the most well-intentioned actions can have devastating consequences.While attempting to prevent the tragic outcome of To Render a Raven, Estrada struggles with the complexities of love, archaeologist Sorcha O'Hallorhan slips into her own time warp with a woman she once adored, and Conall Ceol, an Iron Age Druid bard, walks into the future to challenge Michael Stryker for Estrada's attention.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/houseofmysteryradio. Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/houseofmysteryradio. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Every year, Monarch butterflies migrate to the Goleta's Ellwood butterfly grove. Annabelle Hurst speaks with Charis Van der Heide, monarch expert and monarch count coordinator. Music used: Woods by Hawkin

The focus is on force plates in this episode as Eric is joined by Drake Berberet, the VP of Performance & Brand at Hawkin Dynamics. With over 10 years of experience in educating and training athletes from youth sports to the professional levels, Drake has worked with business executives and athletes in the US Olympics, NFL, NBA, MLB, UFC, and the NCAA as he provides data-driven insights for performance and health. Prior to Hawkin, Drake was the Applied Sport Scientist for the University of Illinois Men's & Women's Basketball teams for 2 seasons. Support Our Sponsor: Marc Pro

We welcomed Drake Berberet onto the All Things Speed & Strength Podcast to discuss Force Plate technology and how to practically utilize it in either the team setting or in the private setting. Drake is the VP of Performance for Hawkin Dynamics, a software company specializing in provide force plate technology for measuring neuromuscular performance in a variety of ways. Drake also does brand marketing for Hawkin Dynamics. We discussed how strength coaches, physios, and physical therapists alike can implement force plate technology with their populations, and he breaks down the basic tenants of how to make it useful, practical, and valuable for your athletes and/or business. Find Drake on Instagram (@strength2.speed), Twitter (@dberb23), and LinkedIn. The episode is available on all platforms, including YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts. About your hosts: The All Things Speed & Strength Podcast is hosted by Lucas Quinn and Jared Wilson. Lucas owns a Training Facility in Westlake Village, California, and works with athletes from the youth to the professional level. Jared is an NBA strength coach and also owns a Training Facility in Ventura, California. Lucas' online speed training digital platform for athletes:www.SpeedUnleashedLQ.com and www.LQSportsPerformance.com Instagram: @LQ_StrengthCoach / @JaredWilson.Performance / @Speed_Strength.Podcast Twitter: @LQStrengthCoach / @_JaredWilson / @SpeedStrPodcast

This month's guest is Coach Christi Smith-Ryan. Coach Smith-Ryan is the strength and conditioning coach for Central Catholic High School in Portland Oregon. We sit down and discuss her journey in strength and conditioning from collegiate setting to her current roll. We also discuss her accomplished track and field career and other various topics. It's a great interview and it was such a pleasure getting to sit down with Christi! Enjoy! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/luckystreakfit1/ Our sponsors for this month's episode are Perform Better and Hawkin Dynamic Perform Better: Perform Better continues to be the leader in functional training, conditioning, and rehabilitation. Our catalog includes the highest quality commercial grade products for professional use. We pride ourselves with the very best in education, equipment and customer service. You can trust our staff to recommend the right products for your needs. https://www.performbetter.com/ Hawkin Dynamic: Hawkin Dynamics believes technology is most useful when it stays out of your way. That's why in 2017, Hawkin developed the world's first wireless force plate system with a mobile app, finally allowing users to take the lab to the athletes. It is the quickest, easiest to use, and most robust solution on the market. It's affordable force and power testing in the palm of your hand with research-grade accuracy. https://www.hawkindynamics.com/

“Writing is kind of mixing the genres and seeing what kind of new things you can think of.” – Luna Rey HallToday's bonus featured award-winning multi-genre author is poet, Luna Rey Hall. Luna and I had a chat about their book, “The Patient Routine”, the potential effects of AI on writing, and more! Key Things You'll Learn:How their poetry background influenced their shift to writing horror The inspiration behind their novella, "The Patient Routine." The importance of originality and giving proper credit in writing Luna's Site: https://lunareyhall.com/Luna's Books: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Luna+Rey+Hall&i=stripbooks&crid=X86OX20N4RG2&sprefix=luna+rey+hall%2Cstripbooks%2C120&ref=nb_sb_noss The opening track is titled "Money Trees" by the magnanimous chill-hop master, Marcus D (@marcusd). Be sure to visit his site and support his craft. https://marcusd.net/Please support today's podcast to keep this content coming! CashApp: $DomBrightmonDonate on PayPal: @DBrightmonBuy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/dombrightmonGet Going North T-Shirts, Stickers, and More: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/dom-brightmon You Might Also Like… Ep. 654 – “Inside the Mind of a Horror Western Writer” with KC Grifant (@KCGrifant): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-654-inside-the-mind-of-a-horror-western-writer-with-kc-grifant-kcgrifant/ Ep. 443 – “Buried Beneath” with Kelly Ann Hopkins (@khopkinswrites): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-433-buried-beneath-with-kelly-ann-hopkins-khopkinswrites/ Ep. 653 – “Throwing Shadows” with Jerry Roth (@_JerryRoth_): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-653-throwing-shadows-with-jerry-roth-_jerryroth_/ Ep. 338 – “Tiny Ruins” with Nicole Haldoupis (@nicolehaldoupis): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-338-tiny-ruins-with-nicole-haldoupis-nicolehaldoupis/ Ep. 318 – “Beautiful, Frightening and Silent” with Jennifer Anne Gordon (@JenniferAnneGo5): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-318-beautiful-frightening-and-silent-with-jennifer-anne-gordon-jenniferannego5/ Ep. 312 – “Reader to Dark Fantasy Writer” with Liz Butcher (@lunaloveliz): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-312-reader-to-dark-fantasy-writer-with-liz-butcher-lunaloveliz/ Ep. 375 – “Aces High, Jokers Wild” with O. E. Tearmann (@ETearmann): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-375-aces-high-jokers-wild-with-o-e-tearmann-etearmann/ Ep. 357 – “Heretics” with V.S. Holmes (@VS_Holmes): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-357-heretics-with-vs-holmes-vs_holmes/ Ep. 698 – “From Scrubs to Award-Winning Stories” with Debra Blaine (@debrablainemd): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-698-from-scrubs-to-award-winning-stories-with-debra-blaine-debrablainemd/ Ep. 368.5 – “Hollystone Mysteries” with W.L. Hawkin (@ladyhawke1003): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-3685-hollystone-mysteries-with-wl-hawkin-ladyhawke1003/ Ep. 533 – “Anime, Swords, & Knives, Oh My!” with Sarah Humpherys: https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-533-anime-swords-knives-oh-my-with-sarah-humpherys/ Ep. 631 – “Enigma Tracer” with Charles Breakfield, MBA (@EnigmaSeries): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-631-enigma-tracer-with-charles-breakfield-mba-enigmaseries/

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W. L. Hawkin writes the kind of books she loves to read from her home in the Pacific Northwest. Because she's a genre-blender, you might find crime, mystery, romance, suspense, fantasy, adventure, and even time travel, interwoven in her stories. If you like “myth, magic, and mayhem” her Hollystone Mysteries feature a coven of West Coast witches who solve murders using ritual magic and a little help from the gods.The books—To Charm a Killer, To Sleep with Stones, To Render a Raven, To Kill a King, and To Dance with Destiny—follow Estrada, a free-spirited, bisexual magician and coven high priest as he endeavors to save his family and friends while sorting through his own personal issues. Her standalone novel, Lure: Jesse & Hawk (2022) won a National Indie Excellence Award, a Gold Reader's Choice award from Connections E-magazine, a Crowned Heart Review from InD'tale Magazine, and placed as a finalist in The UK Wishing Shelf Book Awards.Lure is a small-town romantic suspense story set on a Chippewa Reservation in the American Midwest near the fictional town of Lure River. As an intuitive writer, Wendy captures what she sees and hears on the page, and allows her muses to guide her through the creative process. In an upcoming book, Writing with your Muse: a Guide to Creative Inspiration, she explains her writing process and offers tips and techniques to help writers get their words on the page. Wendy needs to feel the energy of the land so, although she's an introvert, in each book her characters go on a journey where she's traveled herself. http://bluehavenpress.comThe Douglas Coleman Show now offers audio and video promotional packages for music artists as well as video promotional packages for authors. Please see our website for complete details. http://douglascolemanshow.comIf you have a comment about this episode or any other, please click the link below.https://ratethispodcast.com/douglascolemanshow Please help us to continue to bring you quality content by showing your support for our show.https://fundrazr.com/e2CLX2?ref=ab_eCTqb8

Buy Coleman Stevenson's Light Sleeper here⁠ and use code lightsleeper for 20% off your copy. Join the DO Editors as we discuss Light Sleeper for the DO Book Club. Today, we discuss "The Accidental Rarefication of Pattern #3605" on page 12 of Light Sleeper. Artist and writer ⁠Coleman Stevenson⁠ is the author of three collections of poems (Light Sleeper, Breakfast, and The Accidental Rarefication of Pattern #5609), several books about the Tarot including ⁠The Dark Exact Tarot Guide⁠ , and a series of cartomantic spread collections. Her writing has appeared in a variety of literary journals, anthologies, and websites. In addition to her work as a designer of tarot and oracle decks through her company ⁠The Dark Exact⁠, her fine art work, exhibited in galleries around the US, focuses on the intersections between image and text. She has been a guest curator for various gallery spaces in the Portland, Oregon, area, and has taught poetry, tarot, design theory, and cultural studies for many educational and community organizations across the country, as well as online. Theme music is "Woods" by Hawkin.

Lone Pine State Park, one of our most popular, is truly a jewel in the hills above the Flathead. Join long time Parks Manager, Brian Schwartz, as we learn about this incredible park, and maybe uncover a few of its secrets too! The song that plays in the background from 8:22 to 10:22 is a portion of Woods by Hawkin.

Buy Coleman Stevenson's Light Sleeper here and use code lightsleeper for 20% off your copy. Join the DO Editors as we discuss Light Sleeper for the DO Book Club. Today we discuss "The Accidental Rarefication of Pattern #5609" on page 12 of Light Sleeper. Artist and writer Coleman Stevenson is the author of three collections of poems (Light Sleeper, Breakfast, and The Accidental Rarefication of Pattern #5609), several books about the Tarot including The Dark Exact Tarot Guide and a series of cartomantic spread collections. Her writing has appeared in a variety of literary journals, anthologies, and websites. In addition to her work as a designer of tarot and oracle decks through her company The Dark Exact, her fine art work, exhibited in galleries around the US, focuses on the intersections between image and text. She has been a guest curator for various gallery spaces in the Portland, Oregon, area, and has taught poetry, tarot, design theory, and cultural studies for many educational and community organizations across the country, as well as online. Theme music is "Woods" by Hawkin.

Buy Coleman Stevenson's Light Sleeper here and use code lightsleeper for 20% off your copy. Join the DO Editors as we discuss Light Sleeper for the DO Book Club. Today we discuss "Loved Them Like Snow" on page 41 and "The White Phase" on page 34 of Light Sleeper. Artist and writer Coleman Stevenson is the author of three collections of poems (Light Sleeper, Breakfast, and The Accidental Rarefication of Pattern #5609), several books about the Tarot including The Dark Exact Tarot Guide and a series of cartomantic spread collections. Her writing has appeared in a variety of literary journals, anthologies, and websites. In addition to her work as a designer of tarot and oracle decks through her company The Dark Exact, her fine art work, exhibited in galleries around the US, focuses on the intersections between image and text. She has been a guest curator for various gallery spaces in the Portland, Oregon, area, and has taught poetry, tarot, design theory, and cultural studies for many educational and community organizations across the country, as well as online. Theme music is "Woods" by Hawkin.

Buy Coleman Stevenson's Light Sleeper here and use code lightsleeper for 20% off your copy. Join the DO Editors as we discuss Light Sleeper for the DO Book Club. Today we discuss "How do you know what to keep?" on page 12 and "I understand a little of my architecture" on page 16 of Light Sleeper. Artist and writer Coleman Stevenson is the author of three collections of poems (Light Sleeper, Breakfast, and The Accidental Rarefication of Pattern #5609), several books about the Tarot including The Dark Exact Tarot Guide and a series of cartomantic spread collections. Her writing has appeared in a variety of literary journals, anthologies, and websites. In addition to her work as a designer of tarot and oracle decks through her company The Dark Exact, her fine art work, exhibited in galleries around the US, focuses on the intersections between image and text. She has been a guest curator for various gallery spaces in the Portland, Oregon, area, and has taught poetry, tarot, design theory, and cultural studies for many educational and community organizations across the country, as well as online. Theme music is "Woods" by Hawkin.

Buy Coleman Stevenson's Light Sleeper here and use code lightsleeper for 20% off your copy. Join the DO Editors as we discuss Light Sleeper for the DO Book Club. Today we discuss "Ask Me" on page 44 of Light Sleeper. Artist and writer Coleman Stevenson is the author of three collections of poems (Light Sleeper, Breakfast, and The Accidental Rarefication of Pattern #5609), several books about the Tarot including The Dark Exact Tarot Guide and a series of cartomantic spread collections. Her writing has appeared in a variety of literary journals, anthologies, and websites. In addition to her work as a designer of tarot and oracle decks through her company The Dark Exact, her fine art work, exhibited in galleries around the US, focuses on the intersections between image and text. She has been a guest curator for various gallery spaces in the Portland, Oregon, area, and has taught poetry, tarot, design theory, and cultural studies for many educational and community organizations across the country, as well as online. Theme music is "Woods" by Hawkin.

Buy Coleman Stevenson's Light Sleeper here and use code lightsleeper for 20% off your copy. Join the DO Editors as we discuss Light Sleeper for the DO Book Club. Today we discuss "The Taxidermist" on page 30 of Light Sleeper. Artist and writer Coleman Stevenson is the author of three collections of poems (Light Sleeper, Breakfast, and The Accidental Rarefication of Pattern #5609), several books about the Tarot including The Dark Exact Tarot Guide and a series of cartomantic spread collections. Her writing has appeared in a variety of literary journals, anthologies, and websites. In addition to her work as a designer of tarot and oracle decks through her company The Dark Exact, her fine art work, exhibited in galleries around the US, focuses on the intersections between image and text. She has been a guest curator for various gallery spaces in the Portland, Oregon, area, and has taught poetry, tarot, design theory, and cultural studies for many educational and community organizations across the country, as well as online. Theme music is "Woods" by Hawkin.

Buy Coleman Stevenson's Light Sleeper here and use code lightsleeper for 20% off your copy. Join the DO Editors as we discuss Light Sleeper for the DO Book Club. Today we discuss "Nothing at All or Everything at Once" on page 67 of Light Sleeper. Artist and writer Coleman Stevenson is the author of three collections of poems (Light Sleeper, Breakfast, and The Accidental Rarefication of Pattern #5609), several books about the Tarot including The Dark Exact Tarot Guide and a series of cartomantic spread collections. Her writing has appeared in a variety of literary journals, anthologies, and websites. In addition to her work as a designer of tarot and oracle decks through her company The Dark Exact, her fine art work, exhibited in galleries around the US, focuses on the intersections between image and text. She has been a guest curator for various gallery spaces in the Portland, Oregon, area, and has taught poetry, tarot, design theory, and cultural studies for many educational and community organizations across the country, as well as online. Theme music is "Woods" by Hawkin.

Buy Coleman Stevenson's Light Sleeper here⁠ and use code lightsleeper for 20% off your copy. Join the DO Editors as we discuss Light Sleeper for the DO Book Club. Today we discuss "Year of Dead Dogs" on page 46 of Light Sleeper. Artist and writer ⁠Coleman Stevenson⁠ is the author of three collections of poems (Light Sleeper, Breakfast, and The Accidental Rarefication of Pattern #5609), several books about the Tarot including ⁠The Dark Exact Tarot Guide⁠ and a series of cartomantic spread collections. Her writing has appeared in a variety of literary journals, anthologies, and websites. In addition to her work as a designer of tarot and oracle decks through her company ⁠The Dark Exact⁠, her fine art work, exhibited in galleries around the US, focuses on the intersections between image and text. She has been a guest curator for various gallery spaces in the Portland, Oregon, area, and has taught poetry, tarot, design theory, and cultural studies for many educational and community organizations across the country, as well as online. Theme music is "Woods" by Hawkin.

Buy Coleman Stevenson's Light Sleeper here⁠ and use code lightsleeper for 20% off your copy. Join the DO Editors as we discuss Light Sleeper for the DO Book Club. Today we discuss "Year of Dead Dogs" on page 46 of Light Sleeper. Artist and writer ⁠Coleman Stevenson⁠ is the author of three collections of poems (Light Sleeper, Breakfast, and The Accidental Rarefication of Pattern #5609), several books about the Tarot including ⁠The Dark Exact Tarot Guide⁠ and a series of cartomantic spread collections. Her writing has appeared in a variety of literary journals, anthologies, and websites. In addition to her work as a designer of tarot and oracle decks through her company ⁠The Dark Exact⁠, her fine art work, exhibited in galleries around the US, focuses on the intersections between image and text. She has been a guest curator for various gallery spaces in the Portland, Oregon, area, and has taught poetry, tarot, design theory, and cultural studies for many educational and community organizations across the country, as well as online. Theme music is "Woods" by Hawkin.

The Stuph File Program Featuring Dr. Chris Whaley; Marc Hartzman, from WeirdHistorian.com; & W.L. Hawkin, author of Lure: Jesse & Hawk Download Dr. Chris Whaley has had an interesting life. He started out as a pro wrestler, known as The Saint, became a pastor, and then a vigilante. His first book was called The Masked Saint, which was based on his true story and made into an award-winning movie. His second book, Harold's Heavenly Christmas will be a Movie of the Week. Marc Hartzman, from WeirdHistorian.com talks about Stories Of Space, which will be sending stories into the atmosphere on a rocket that's launching in August. Marc is also the author of The Big Book of Mars: From Ancient Egypt to The Martian, A Deep-Space Dive into Our Obsession with the Red Planet. W.L Hawkin is the author of the indigenous thriller, Lure: Jesse & Hawk. Now you can listen to selected items from The Stuph File Program on the audio service, Audea. A great way to keep up with many of the interviews from the show and take a trip down memory lane to when this show began back in 2009, with over 800 selections to choose from! This week's guest slate is presented by Christine Milks, a floral designer in Gananoque, Ontario who, for the last 15 years has written The Constant Gardener, a gardening column in Vista Magazine, a publication of the Kingston Seniors Centre.

Find something that you like to do, get really good at it, and then stick to it.Today's featured dark fiction author is Keith Anthony Baird from the UK. Keith and I had a chat about his books, how he deals with writer's block, and more!!! Key Things You'll Learn:How he became a writerWhere Keith gets his inspiration fromWhy it pays to work on your craft early Keith's Site: https://t.co/Bb8A2c7FDuKeith's Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Keith-Anthony-Baird/author/B078TQD1J2?ref=ap_rdr&store_ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true The opening track is titled “Check It Out” by Mountaineer from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):https://uppbeat.io/t/mountaineer/check-it-outLicense code: AR6DFPGVXQ9Q1SSY Please support today's podcast to keep this content coming! CashApp: $DomBrightmonDonate on PayPal: @DBrightmonBuy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/dombrightmonGet Going North T-Shirts, Stickers, and More: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/dom-brightmon You May Also Like… Ep. 654 – “Inside the Mind of a Horror Western Writer” with KC Grifant (@KCGrifant): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-654-inside-the-mind-of-a-horror-western-writer-with-kc-grifant-kcgrifant/ Ep. 318 – “Beautiful, Frightening and Silent” with Jennifer Anne Gordon (@JenniferAnneGo5): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-318-beautiful-frightening-and-silent-with-jennifer-anne-gordon-jenniferannego5/ Ep. 312 – “Reader to Dark Fantasy Writer” with Liz Butcher (@lunaloveliz): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-312-reader-to-dark-fantasy-writer-with-liz-butcher-lunaloveliz/ Ep. 368.5 – “Hollystone Mysteries” with W.L. Hawkin (@ladyhawke1003): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-3685-hollystone-mysteries-with-wl-hawkin-ladyhawke1003/ Ep. 534 – “Tom's Revenge” with James Edward Webb: https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-534-toms-revenge-with-james-edward-webb/ Ep. 653 – “Throwing Shadows” with Jerry Roth (@_JerryRoth_): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-653-throwing-shadows-with-jerry-roth-_jerryroth_/ Ep. 615 – “Champion Martial Artist to Award-Winning Novelist” with Danielle Orsino: https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-615-champion-martial-artist-to-award-winning-novelist-with-danielle-orsino/ Ep. 568 – “The Multi-Hyphen Mystery Author Life” with Diane Bator (@bator_l): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-568-the-multi-hyphen-mystery-author-life-with-diane-bator-bator_l/ Ep. 449 – “House of the Moon” with Donna Conrad (@DonnaDConrad999): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-449-house-of-the-moon-with-donna-conrad-donnadconrad999/ Ep. 375 – “Aces High, Jokers Wild” with O. E. Tearmann (@ETearmann): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-375-aces-high-jokers-wild-with-o-e-tearmann-etearmann/ Ep. 443 – “Buried Beneath” with Kelly Ann Hopkins (@khopkinswrites): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-433-buried-beneath-with-kelly-ann-hopkins-khopkinswrites/

We all need a mortality check from time to time to get our stories out there.Today's featured international bestselling author is a New England-to-SoCal transplant, and the co-founder of the Horror Writers Association (HWA) San Diego chapter, KC Grifant. KC and I had a chat about her book, “Melinda West: Monster Gunslinger”, gaining confidence as a writer, and more! Key Things You'll Learn:What inspired her to make horror her genre of choice as a writerHer advice for aspiring writers and how she found the courage to writeHow she balances work, life, and writingHer plans for upcoming books KC's Site: www.KCGrifant.comKC's Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B01B3O66AY/allbooks?ingress=0&visitId=5fd09b5b-2cd8-42d2-a6cc-d89fcf59bb84&store_ref=ap_rdr&ref_=ap_rdr The opening track is titled “Check It Out” by Mountaineer from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):https://uppbeat.io/t/mountaineer/check-it-outLicense code: AR6DFPGVXQ9Q1SSY Please support today's podcast to keep this content coming! CashApp: $DomBrightmonDonate on PayPal: @DBrightmonBuy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/dombrightmonGet Going North T-Shirts, Stickers, and More: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/dom-brightmon You May Also Like… Ep. 319 – “The Hunter” with Jim Christina: https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-319-the-hunter-with-jim-christina/ Ep. 330 – “A Long Way from Ordinary” with Ann Charles (@AnnWCharles): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-330-a-long-way-from-ordinary-with-ann-charles-annwcharles/ Ep. 568 – “The Multi-Hyphen Mystery Author Life” with Diane Bator (@bator_l): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-568-the-multi-hyphen-mystery-author-life-with-diane-bator-bator_l/ Ep. 318 – “Beautiful, Frightening and Silent” with Jennifer Anne Gordon (@JenniferAnneGo5): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-318-beautiful-frightening-and-silent-with-jennifer-anne-gordon-jenniferannego5/ Ep. 312 – “Reader to Dark Fantasy Writer” with Liz Butcher (@lunaloveliz): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-312-reader-to-dark-fantasy-writer-with-liz-butcher-lunaloveliz/ Ep. 314.5 (Holiday Bonus) – “Turning Point” with Kristy Smith (@kristynotkirsty): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-3145-holiday-bonus-turning-point-with-kristy-smith-kristynotkirsty/ Ep. 368.5 – “Hollystone Mysteries” with W.L. Hawkin (@ladyhawke1003): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-3685-hollystone-mysteries-with-wl-hawkin-ladyhawke1003/ Ep. 573 – “From US Veteran to Sci-Fi Novelist” with Pat Daily (@patdailyauthor): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-573-from-us-veteran-to-sci-fi-novelist-with-pat-daily-patdailyauthor/ 247 – “Cozy Mysteries & Inclusive Children's Books” with Kelly Brakenhoff (@inBrakenVille): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/247-cozy-mysteries-inclusive-childrens-books-with-kelly-brakenhoff-inbrakenville/ Ep. 443 – “Buried Beneath” with Kelly Ann Hopkins (@khopkinswrites): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-433-buried-beneath-with-kelly-ann-hopkins-khopkinswrites/ Ep. 311 – “Works of Urban Mythopoeia” with Cat Rambo (@Catrambo): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-311-works-of-urban-mythopoeia-with-cat-rambo-catrambo/ Ep. 582 – “Shaping the World Through Great Stories for All Ages” with Natasha Deen (@natasha_deen): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-582-shaping-the-world-through-great-stories-for-all-ages-with-natasha-deen-natasha_deen/ Ep. 534 – “Tom's Revenge” with James Edward Webb: https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-534-toms-revenge-with-james-edward-webb/ Ep. 598 – “An Awakening” with Shiva Kumar (@shivaarc1242): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-598-an-awakening-with-shiva-kumar-shivaarc1242/ 279 – “Peak Performance Ghostwriting” with Kathrin Hutson (@ExquisitelyDark): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/279-peak-performance-ghostwriting-with-kathrin-hutson-exquisitelydark/

“You can have a great twist, you can have a scary atmosphere, but it's the characters that you have to bring to life in order for a book to work.” - Jerry RothToday's featured award-winning author is father, and husband, Jerry Roth. Jerry and I talk about his book, “Throwing Shadows: A Dark Collection”, what makes a good book, and more!! Key Things You'll Learn:Why he decides to write horror novelsHis advice for aspiring writersHow he makes time to write as a dadWhat drives jerry to keep creating his characters Jerry's Site: https://www.jerryrothauthor.com/Jerry's Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B088KTYMZH/allbooks?ingress=0&visitId=707f40ec-ffa7-4b53-8d9e-0549aa6e454e The opening track is titled “Check It Out” by Mountaineer from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):https://uppbeat.io/t/mountaineer/check-it-outLicense code: AR6DFPGVXQ9Q1SSY Please support today's podcast to keep this content coming! CashApp: $DomBrightmonDonate on PayPal: @DBrightmonBuy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/dombrightmonGet Going North T-Shirts, Stickers, and More: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/dom-brightmon You May Also Like… Ep. 378 – “Writing Adventures with The Dialogue Doctor” with Jeff Elkins (@Jffelkins): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-378-writing-adventures-with-the-dialogue-doctor-with-jeff-elkins-jffelkins/ Ep. 330 – “A Long Way from Ordinary” with Ann Charles (@AnnWCharles): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-330-a-long-way-from-ordinary-with-ann-charles-annwcharles/ Ep. 355 – “One London Day” with Chris Humphreys (@HumphreysCC): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/355-one-london-day-with-chris-humphreys-humphreyscc/ Ep. 351 – “The Gift Legacy” with JP McLean (@jpmcleanauthor): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-351-the-gift-legacy-with-jp-mclean-jpmcleanauthor/ Ep. 368.5 – “Hollystone Mysteries” with W.L. Hawkin (@ladyhawke1003): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-3685-hollystone-mysteries-with-wl-hawkin-ladyhawke1003/ Ep. 631 – “Enigma Tracer” with Charles Breakfield, MBA (@EnigmaSeries): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-631-enigma-tracer-with-charles-breakfield-mba-enigmaseries/ Ep. 606 – “Crowdfunding Your Comic Books Into Reality” with Morgan Quaid (@morgan_quaid): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-606-crowdfunding-your-comic-books-into-reality-with-morgan-quaid-morgan_quaid/ Ep. 332 – “Her Perfect Life” with Hank Phillippi Ryan (@HankPRyan): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-332-her-perfect-life-with-hank-phillippi-ryan-hankpryan/ Ep. 582 – “Shaping the World Through Great Stories for All Ages” with Natasha Deen (@natasha_deen): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-582-shaping-the-world-through-great-stories-for-all-ages-with-natasha-deen-natasha_deen/ Ep. 427 – “The Uluru Legacy Series” with Anna J. Walner (@AnnaJWalner): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-427-the-uluru-legacy-series-with-anna-j-walner-annajwalner/

We will learn: About the Hawkin's map of consciousness.  How to turn your triggers into a powerful way to manifest possibilities.  How to practice aligning with happiness and worthiness. Have you ever experienced magic? A synchronicity too coincidental to happen without a reason. Or instant karma, where the universe matches your energy so fast it feels like a cosmic joke? Nikola Tesla said, “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency, and vibration.” One of my goals for this podcast has always been bridging the gap between science and spirituality. And while the law of attraction gets a lot of criticism, it's hard to deny its links with quantum physics. It's also interesting how many of the most successful people in the world seem to live by a certain set of laws.  So today, we're talking about 7 quantum tools to raise our energy, and in doing so, will help us manifest the lives we were always meant to live.  Our guest is Suzanne Adams. She is a successful thought leader in the field of personnel development, energetics, and leadership. She has walked through her own powerful awakening and now considers herself a manifesting genius. She's also the author of Quantum Vibes: 7 Tools to Help You Raise Your Energy, Harness Your Power & Manifest a Life that Will Blow Your Mind. Links from the episode: Show Notes: https://mindlove.com/291 Become a Mind Love Member for high-value Masterclasses, Growth Workbooks, Monthly Meditations, and Uninterrupted Listening FREE 5-Days to Purpose Email Course Sign up for The Morning Mind Love for short daily notes to wake up inspired Support Mind Love Sponsors Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

INTRODUCTION: Lluvia Peveto, 37, is a native Texan, former journalist and currently a marketing and public relations specialist. She is a senior account manager for a Baton Rouge-based creative agency, where she offers proactive counsel for the agency's client roster. Lluvia has worked extensively in both corporate and nonprofit environments throughout her career, earning hundreds of thousands of dollars in sponsorships, membership commitments, and local and state grants. Her copywriting work has received numerous local awards in Louisiana and Texas garnering international media recognition for her diverse clients.  Lluvia enjoys openly relating her experiences as a bisexual and polyamorous woman, and has practiced polyamory for over three years. She is an advocate for living openly without fear and enjoys expanding her experiences and knowledge of ethical nonmonogamy. In her spare time, she enjoys riding her motorcycle, running, updating her Kindle reads list and connecting with friends.    INCLUDED IN THIS EPISODE (But not limited to): ·      A Glimpse Into The Polyamorous Life·      Open Relationships Vs. Polyamory ·      The Importance Of Alone Time·      The Necessity Of Therapy ·      Hierarchy Vs. Non-Hierarchy ·      Expressing What You Really Want·      Dating App Options·      Coming Out Poly·      Mental Health Cost Cutting Hacks·      Code Switching  CONNECT WITH LLUVIA: TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tacobellissimaInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/tacobellissima/?hl=en  LLUVIA'S RECOMMENDATIONS: Recommended Resources:●    https://www.audible.com/pd?asin=1952125081&source_code=ASSORAP0511160006&share_location=pdp●    https://www.audible.com/pd?asin=B09X2828PD&source_code=ASSORAP0511160006&share_location=pdp●    https://www.audible.com/pd?asin=B005P1FP7W&source_code=ASSORAP0511160006&share_location=pdp●    https://www.audible.com/pd?asin=1952125030&source_code=ASSORAP0511160006&share_location=pdp Blogs:●    https://www.polyphilia.blog●    https://youtube.com/@polyamfam●    https://www.chillpolyamory.com/about Social Media:●    https://instagram.com/polyamoryinpractice?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=●    https://instagram.com/polyphiliablog?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=●    https://instagram.com/polyamproud?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=●    https://instagram.com/nonmonogamyhelp?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=●    https://instagram.com/chillpolyamory?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=●    https://instagram.com/remodeledlove?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=●    https://instagram.com/polyamorousblackgirl?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=●    https://instagram.com/polyamfam?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=   CONNECT WITH DE'VANNON: Website: https://www.SexDrugsAndJesus.comWebsite: https://www.DownUnderApparel.comTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sexdrugsandjesusYouTube: https://bit.ly/3daTqCMFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/SexDrugsAndJesus/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sexdrugsandjesuspodcast/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TabooTopixLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/devannonPinterest: https://www.pinterest.es/SexDrugsAndJesus/_saved/Email: DeVannon@SDJPodcast.com   DE'VANNON'S RECOMMENDATIONS: ·      Pray Away Documentary (NETFLIX)o  https://www.netflix.com/title/81040370o  TRAILER: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk_CqGVfxEs ·      OverviewBible (Jeffrey Kranz)o  https://overviewbible.como  https://www.youtube.com/c/OverviewBible ·      Hillsong: A Megachurch Exposed (Documentary)o  https://press.discoveryplus.com/lifestyle/discovery-announces-key-participants-featured-in-upcoming-expose-of-the-hillsong-church-controversy-hillsong-a-megachurch-exposed/ ·      Leaving Hillsong Podcast With Tanya Levino  https://leavinghillsong.podbean.com  ·      Upwork: https://www.upwork.com·      FreeUp: https://freeup.net VETERAN'S SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS ·      Disabled American Veterans (DAV): https://www.dav.org·      American Legion: https://www.legion.org ·      What The World Needs Now (Dionne Warwick): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHAs9cdTqg  INTERESTED IN PODCASTING OR BEING A GUEST?: ·      PodMatch is awesome! This application streamlines the process of finding guests for your show and also helps you find shows to be a guest on. The PodMatch Community is a part of this and that is where you can ask questions and get help from an entire network of people so that you save both money and time on your podcasting journey.https://podmatch.com/signup/devannon  TRANSCRIPT: Lluvia Polyamory[00:00:00]You're listening to the sex drugs and Jesus podcast, where we discuss whatever the fuck we want to! And yes, we can put sex and drugs and Jesus all in the same bed and still be all right at the end of the day. My name is De'Vannon and I'll be interviewing guests from every corner of this world as we dig into topics that are too risqué for the morning show, as we strive to help you understand what's really going on in your life.There is nothing off the table and we've got a lot to talk about. So let's dive right into this episode.De'Vannon: Hello, all my children out there. Hope everyone is feeling super fabulous as we get ready to get into yet another episode. Today I'm talking with a dear friend of mine who I've known for years and years and years. Her name is Lluvia Peveto, and she is someone who is all about that polyamorous life, y'all. She has lived it. She has learned from it. She has grown from it, and she is here to share [00:01:00] some of her delicious delectable tips with you, baby. Now in this episode, we're gonna be talking about everything polyamory. We're gonna talk about polyamory versus open relationships and being ahoe.Yes, darling. They're not the same. Take a listen to this episode and please share it with somebody who could use a little bit of love. Hello, are you wonderful souls out there? And welcome to the Sex drugs in Jesus podcast. I'm your host Devana and I am here with my homegirl, the lovely and talented Ms. Uzel, also known as TacoHello. Hello. Now, don't usually read from people's bios and stuff like that. I usually have some slick ass shit to say or whatever the case may be, but your bio is so well written. [00:02:00] I'm actually going to read just like a, a snip letter or two of it since you did such a damn good job on it. Now this bitch here is 37 very young years.I know she looks 12. I carded. And everything to be sure that she was of age on this show, she is stuck in time in the best way. She is a native Texan, a former journalist, and currently a marketing and public relations specialist. Apart from all this, she enjoys openly relating her experiences as a bisexual and polyamorous woman and she has practiced polyamory for over three years.How are you doing today? Lluvia: I'm doing lovely. Thank you so much for inviting me on your show. I'm excited. De'Vannon: Hell fucks. Yeah. So how did this all come about? So, you know, I've been going through relationship changes and, and shit like that, and I was trolling TikTok the other week and I saw U on there giving this whole like read on polyamory and she was [00:03:00] like, you know what, not everybody's poly.And she was just trying to like conceptualize this and so, According to Healthline, about 45% of the US population is poly. And I was taken with your passion about it, and as I have been considering this lifestyle, and so I wanted to bring you on so we can have a conversation about polyamory, not necessarily from some like high level coach in the, in the, in the lifestyle, but just somebody who's going through it.And so how, how do you feel like being poly has benefited you? Lluvia: Well I feel like it's a long story because when I first started out being poly, I think I was kind of [00:04:00] in my hope phase, as we all do when we get out of long-term relationships. And you think. There's a lot more efficiency, and I just wanna see what there is out there for me.And I think I, at the, at that point in time was I was a little disillusioned with long-term monogamous relationships because I had previously been married and almost all of the relationships that I had were long-term, so lasting more than three years. So I think I went into it. I think, well, at first I didn't know what polyamory was.I, I knew what open was. I had never heard of ethical non monogamy at that point in time. I had engaged in previously open relationships, but they weren't very, they weren't born out of a place of education [00:05:00] for that kind of lifestyle. , it was just like, Hey, let's just be open. So I wasn't really familiar with it.And at the time I thought, well, it's better to be single and just date around and do whatever I want and not have to answer to anybody, and I'll focus on my friends and family and career. And then I met my nesting partner who kind of introduced me to the idea. And so from that point in time, I was like, well, you know, I am gonna educate myself about what this is and see if it's right for me before I make any decisions about whether or not this is something that I want to pursue.I think we all kind of fall into monogamy kind of naturally because it's a, it's, you know, something that [00:06:00] is very normal within our culture. . And to me,I was a little scared about it. I didn't know what polyamory meant or how it would affect me or, you know, who was involved. Is it just like cheating? You know? Is it, is it just like one big Sodom and Gamora? Because I was raised like in a, in a very like, religious background, so I didn't want to necessarily do Sodom and Gamora 24 7.I did, I was intrigued by some of the more physicality and the openness that you were able to do without like punishment, I guess. So I guess the, the first to answer your question very, like succinctly I liked it because there was a lot more to offer. I wasn't [00:07:00] restricted. necessarily from anything.It was a lot more open. On the journey to polyamory. I found out that there's a lot more involved than just sleeping with people. You have to think about the ethics and what are your boundaries and what past trauma will affect your life. And I think what I came away with over the three years of time that I've been polyamorous is how to truly communicate, how to express myself, how to identify what I need personally first and then be able to express it, right?How to face conflict how important therapy is, and how important it is to spend alone time. in addition to the, all of the other regular benefits that you get from it. So like hanging out with a lot of people, getting a [00:08:00] lot of emotional support and being able to, you know, just rely on people and have a bigger family than you originally thought you could.So all of those are benefits, but they come with responsibilities as well. De'Vannon: And with great power comes great responsibility. Little spider girl andSo you, you said nesting partner. What's the nesting partner? Lluvia: So in polyamory there's the certain structures and certain terminologies in which you can describe your relationships to other people. It's always good to really detail out what those definitions mean to you because they may not mean the same thing to other people.So even if you hear me say definitions like nesting partner. , it's, even if somebody else talks to you about it, you should always say, well, what does nesting partner mean to you? Because again, we all have [00:09:00] our own perceptions of terminologies. But in my case, my nesting partner is my long-term partner that I live with.So usually when somebody says nesting partner, they mean somebody that they live with. In some cases, some people can use nesting partner to mean main partner, but I practice non hierarchy which means that everybody is equal to me and everybody's needs are the same and legitimate. De'Vannon: Hmm. Non hierarchy.I I've never heard that, but I like it. You like all y'all the same. When I was a drug dealer, one of my fellow drug dealers, this cute little blonde boy in, in my memoir that I sent you, I referred him as golden boy in there and I believe in the book, his name is Hawkin. And so but in real life, this dude had like five different females that he was fucking, I don't believe they were [00:10:00] allowed to fucking anybody else, that he had them ranked number, like one through five, and number one had authority over two through four.So like, if number two through four came in with, I don't know, some fucking badass, you know, glasses on some frames or whatever, the number one, it just goes to natural fucking. Pr us off of her face. And then that would be thatLluvia: Yeah, that in my, in my structure would be described as toxic and also patriarchal. I would say. Of course, everybody has their own definitions of what works for them and what doesn't work for them. So there's a lot of actual couples who still practice hierarchy because, for instance if you live together, you're gonna have more privileges than, or take advantage of more privileges, for [00:11:00]instance, than somebody who's in solo poly, which means that they live by themselves or they practice polyamory more individual.So like if somebody who practices poly more individually doesn't have a partner and they live alone or something, they're not gonna get the benefits as some, as much of a couple living together and sharing responsibility. So there's still an innate sense of privilege that we all have when they're, when we're in relationships with somebody.Like somebody might spend more time with another partner because they live close by to you or, so there's still privilege, right? But the hierarchy means like, for instance, if I have two partners and I live with one, if they have a birthday party or if we have funds, time to tied together, like I'm gonna have to make decisions based on, you know, what the household need is or [00:12:00] something because I live with them if I don't live with another partner.and I'm trying to make sure that I prioritize them and that they're not in a hierarchal not affected by a hierarchy negatively. We have discussions about, you know, what is important to you? When do you want me to show up for things? Do you want me to show up for things? And make sure to put them first emotionally as well.So like, you're, you're not, you're trying to make sure that everybody has their needs met as much as they can. I would say. De'Vannon: And at the center of that, it's something that you mentioned earlier where you're saying like, you have to learn who, identify what you want and then be able to express what you want.One of the great sayings from within the spiritual circles is, who am I and what do I want, you know, that we must ask ourselves in order for this to work. Everybody's gotta [00:13:00] be clear on who the fuck they are. And what the fuck they want, because nobody should be having to play a guessing game. Like it's not going to work.But from my experience is I have asked many adults this sort of question, you know, in the course of, you know, my life. And more often than not, people cannot tell me exactly what they believe in who they are and what they want, you know? So did you find it was difficult to to either come to this point yourself, where you can clearly know yourself enough to know who you are and be able to express it?Have you had struggles getting this from people? Lluvia: Yes. It is all very hard. I'm not gonna lie. This lifestyle requires a lot of knowing yourself facing the darker sides of you and being honest about, you know, I don't know how to do this right now. And, but I'm still gonna [00:14:00] try. I've found that a lot of people, well, well, let's just talk about me first.I have found personally that it's very difficult to identify feelings and the root causes of feelings. So for instance, one of the main things that people ask me as a polyamorous person is, oh my gosh, I could never do that. Like, how don't, why don't you get jealous? And, yeah. You know, here's the thing.You are gonna get jealous and you are gonna get jealous sometimes. Just the same way that you get jealous as a monogamous person, because you're, you, you can't cut feelings out. You're, you're still a human being. You're surly to express your feelings or feel them. But when I experienced feelings of jealousy, I have to ask myself, where does this come from?Why am I jealous? , am I jealous because I feel [00:15:00] like I am not getting the same thing that somebody else is getting? Am I jealous because I think my partner is gonna leave me? Am I jealous because I want something, but I don't know how to express it? Do I have a boundary that I that I haven't expressed that I feel resentful even though I haven't towards my partner, even though I haven't expressed it?So I think you have to like really work through your feelings and identify why do I feel the way I feel? You can't just say, I just feel this way, which of course, you know, you will, you will just feel a certain way. But yeah, I feel like, I feel like that's been one of the major breakthroughs in polyamory is like really knowing yourself because you think you know yourself and then you get into something like this, which is a more complex.Relationship structure and then you're just blown away. [00:16:00] But how much you continue to learn about yourself and other people. De'Vannon: Right. And you mentioned also how this is different from like, just like being a hoe because some people might, I wanna dwell on that for a moment. And they're, look, we not here to shame honey.No, no, no. Out on a road more dick in this lifetime than what is what, what really one individual should be allowed to, you know, it's a good thing. My booty hole always goes back to being as taught as ever. And you know, then I go for my yearly AAL rejuvenation surgery anyway. And so , so. So I want, so I want you to talk about this because , you know, cause I, I had a partner in my life at one point who thought that anything that he did was sex positive.It didn't matter how many different people he slept with or whatever the case may be. As long as it wasn't rape then it was sex positive. And I just wanna, [00:17:00] you know, I want you to talk about what sex positivity is to you. And I want you to get a little bit more granular with the concept of just going on Grindr, whatever app the fuck around.Like that doesn't make you poly. You know, poly involves like giving a fuck about the people you're dealingLluvia: Yes. That is very, yes. Okay. So here's the thing.I feel like most people, unless you're asexual or have a low sex drive, at some point in time are gonna want to express themselves physically in a consistent way like we all, and that is to say that at some point in time we've all been hod or we continue to be hod. You know, I I find [00:18:00] that personally myself, like I, I go through cycles. For me, the reason why I went into Poly is not because I wanted to sleep around with a lot of people, cuz I could already do that without becoming poly. The idea that you are capable of vast amounts of love and are able to share that with people in different kinds of ways and they can share with you, and it doesn't have to all be the same like you are.Capable of designing your own relationships and meeting different needs with different people. One of the concepts that I really thought about in becoming poly wasthe idea that, can someone really give you everything that you need as one individual? So [00:19:00]like, let's say if you had your significant other, can they give you everything? Like, is that possible? And then you think about it and you think someone can't be everything to you. Like, this is why we have friends.This is why we have mentors. This is why we have, you know family. All of these people are important to us in different kinds of way, and they meet different needs. I believe that some people are naturally monogamous. , and I'm not trying to evangelize and trying to convert people over to the way of being poly cuz it's a lifestyle.It takes commitment, it takes responsibility. And so like, I wouldn't recommend this lifestyle to everybody. I personally enjoy it and I think a lot more people would, because I think a lot of people are not naturally monogamous. They just [00:20:00] don't know what options are available to them. But but yeah, like I, I think it's, I think polyamory is the ability to love multiple people and to be fed in different ways.And that doesn't mean necessarily sex. So there's a lot of asexual people and people who have significant relationships or emotional relationships with others that never delve into sex. Like for some people, Being in a polyamorous relationship means that you might live with one partner, you might sleep with another, and they don't provide you emotional support.They just provide you with physical support, right? Like cuddling or sex or whatever. And then there's, there might be somebody that you have a relationship with that's very emotionally significant where y'all don't ever sleep together. Like all of those [00:21:00] possibilities exist within the realm of poly and you don't.The beautiful thing is, is that all of those relationships don't have to look the same way. So you are able to have as many relationships as you want, as it you could properly care for and make your own needs up as long as that other person is being fed responsibly as well De'Vannon: too. Holy shit sticks, Batman.I never would've thought about . I never would've thought about that. You know, the whole, like, gosh, it's like, you know, just like an emotional relationship with somebody doesn't have anything physical to do with it. Wow.Lluvia: And you don't even have to spend, there's some people that like a lot of alone time. So your traditional relationships usually have you living with somebody spending a lot of time with them. But there are partners within polyamory that are called, [00:22:00] for instance, comment partners. And those are partners that aren't with you all the time.You may only see them what, maybe like twice a year, year, once a year. And that yet they're very, very significant, a very significant relationship in your life. And that can still be a partner. They're just not the traditional partner. So I think. Breaking. The first thing you have to do is break any ideas of what a relationship is supposed to look like and think what do, who am I and what do I actually need?And is there somebody who wants to meet that need? And how can we make this work forDe'Vannon: now this, now this comment partner who you might only see once or twice a year. Are you physically see them once or twice a year? Are you in communicating with them over you know, in some way being by phone or whatever, or Lluvia: [00:23:00] if you want to, cuz you're the one making the relationship. I actually have never had a comment partner, but it's it's not within with, it's not outside of the realm of possibility, right?It's still just like, who are you at this point in time and what do you need? And then everything else kind of falls into place. I. Reconstructing my ideas about re relationships look like and what I want has continuously evolved over my experience with Poly De'Vannon: Well Spoken now within the Poly community.You, you you say you consider yourself to be more of a connector rather than a coach, and I think the connector sounds like a badass movie, , you know, maybe the follow up to Columbiana or some shit like that. I'm still waiting for him to give us that, cuz that movie was totally kick ass and you [00:24:00] could have totally played Columbiana.And so, and so tell people what, you know, just about the existence of coaches in, in, in the poly world and what they could provide. Lluvia: So when I first started out, I didn't know anything. you know, as you do, and I went online and tried to find a lot of people that were very experienced in Poly that had blogs and that wrote books.And so I started following them and they provided there's a lot of information out there, just so you know as an aside, and you should always be careful and do your own reading yourself to compare what you know and which you are aligned with, with whoever you're following. Right? But I found several people, like there's an account on TikTok that's called Chill Polyamory, and they're also [00:25:00] on Instagram too.So like I follow them, they have a blog and everything, so I make sure to follow 'em because they have really good advice for people who follow non non-hierarchical poly and who are also within the kink community, which I think. , you'll often find that there's a lot of like other different like sub-communities linked to polyamory.Because a lot of alternative people like alternative rel relationships. And so you'll often find kink and sci-fi people and gamer people and d and d people, like all wrapped up within this major like polyamorous De'Vannon: ecosystem. Ooh, that sounds so hot and yummy. Or, you know, I love me, so love me a good nerd, baby.Yes. . Lluvia: I mean, you'll find them there if there's anything. I know it's that [00:26:00] I've found more people who are like me, who are like, I'll, I'll like swipe on them on Tinder and I'll be like, Hey, what's up? I love your shirt. I'm a big, you know star Trek person myself, and they'll be like, original. Or first genAnd then we'll get into, we'll get into talks about Star Trek and stuff and debate about which season was the best. And like that's how, that's one of the really good things that I love about polyamory is cuz when you date too, that person might not be from you. You might not sleep with them like once you swipe on them.But the great thing is about polyamory is that you're not just like, okay, next if, if you vibe with somebody but they're not for you, you oftentimes will stay friends. I've made more friends off of dating apps than I've actually made lovers because we just have a lot of the shit, same shared interests.[00:27:00]De'Vannon: See, and we're, and we're, this is a great segue into the apps and exactly how somebody can immerse themselves into finding poly people if they want to do this lifestyle. So, so what you say in home Girl is that the poly mindset isn't quite as deterministic as say, like the grinder mindset because, you know, you know, people go on Grindr and act like that.Just the fuck. And if, if you and I fucking, then they swipe and get the hell out, nobody leave a damn vote. Anything about you. and so, so, so, so let's talk to people who, who might be hearing what you're saying and like, Ooh, that monogamy shit didn't work. I can't keep my dick in my pants anyway. Maybe there's a way that I can actually have all the sex that I want and still be a respectable human being.Don't have to resort the cheating, chicon, lies, scandals, deception, none of those things. You can have all the ass you want and do it in such a way that you're not hurting people's [00:28:00] feelings. . So so I know one of the apps is Fe Life. Another one is field, F e e l B. So I know if you live in a huge ass city like Los Angeles and Miami or something like that in New York, cause it'll be easier to find groups.You got people who are gonna hear this, who live in, but fuck Egypt out in the damn country and shit like that. And so the apps really come in handy. . And so talk to us about, you know, the apps and, you know, they're a good way to start. Yeah. Lluvia: I, I actually do most of my looking for relationships on apps.I wouldn't be opposed to in-person stuff, but it's just so hard. Like, how do you walk up to somebody and say, hi, I think you're cute also, I'm bisexual and polyamorous, you wanna go out with me? And then they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. What does that mean? Even mean it's so weird. Like, so I can't, it's, you know [00:29:00] it's easier to do it on the apps.So I get on I'm most, I'm on all of the apps all of the time. I usually have my dating cycles where I get off of the apps. If I, if my energy is low and then I get on the apps again. So I'll just call it my dating cycles. But I'll be on Tinder, Bumble hinge Field. And there is like her I don't really use some as much as I use the others, like, cuz I find that some app formats are just easier to stay in the know or up to date with [00:30:00] versus I feel like some layouts are just not as easy as others.So like, for instance, her, I don't really get on that as much because I just don't like the layout as much. Like, I don't like the way that the app structure exists. I do like Tinder because it's very easy. But what I don't like about it is that it's a lot of people looking for unicorns. Which, you know, I'm bisexual, but that doesn't mean that I'm gonna be a unit unicorn.So I like, I do like Tinder because of its ease of use. I like Bumble because it's very female and friendly oriented. So like, there's not gonna be somebody acting off, Hey babes wanna get laid tonight. Like, I, you know, maybe I do wanna get laid, but I don't wanna get laid like that. So yeah, I'm more of a slow burn kind of [00:31:00] person now, or at least in the cycle of my life.So yeah, so I like Bumble cause it's very sweet. Hinge every now and then let's see, field, I am on field consistently. . Because I find that it's easier to find like-minded people upfront because it'll let you put your options out, like interested in, and then you can put whatever you can put, like friends picking flowers, B D S M, beating somebody mercilessly over a cupcake.You can know, you can, you put whatever your, whatever your likes and dislikes are. And a lot of people are very open about it. A lot of people put like, you know, I'm interested in I'm a rope bunny and I do this and I'm looking for couples, or I'm looking for only an individual person. So it allows a lot of like [00:32:00] tailoring and getting your message very clear about what you need and what you don't need as opposed to tender, right, where you just put like a small bio and maybe link your Instagram.So that's the difference is. , you know, you're able to really be very detailed about what you're looking for or what kind of physical exchange you're, you're looking for, which,because sometimes people are looking more for somebody to sleep with, and let's say you're in poly, but you want more of a person who meets to your physical needs, you're able to write that up right away. And then you're able to link with your partner's profile if you have a partner. So then the other person can like see who your partner is and check y'all out and just kinda like be very, it's very transparent, which is really good for people who practice poly.De'Vannon: I like how you said you take the apps and cycles. One of my [00:33:00] great frustrations with people in this day and time is that they're on their goddamn phones everywhere They go all the fucking time and they won't put the fuckers down. And then these apps have a way of like draining your energy and just pulling you in because you're always wondering who hit you up and who's, who's next, the next message.And then, then you get this twisted sense of validation coming from the fact that people are contacting you on there. And it's not really true love or anything, it's just potential. And so I like the fact that you, you go at it hard, but then you know how to turn the shit off when it's getting to be too much and it's becoming toxic.And I'm happy that you identify that, that go, that does come a point in time where you need to chill with the shed . So do you have any advice that people can put in terms of how they, any information they can put in their profiles to help them? Lluvia: Yeah, I would say. To be very transparent and [00:34:00] open and honest about who you are and what you're looking for.So, like in my bio on apps where it's not so usual to see polyamorous people, I'll put my name and so people can look me up because I want them to know that I'm not just some weird person who's gonna like hit their head over in an alley and leave them there for dead. Like, it's nice to know that you exist online and that people can trust you to a certain extent.So I put my name, I put that what I'm looking for, so like, Hey, this is Uve and I like to read books and I like to, you know, garden and ride my motorcycle, blah, blah, blah. I'm looking for somebody who. would like to hang out and go to the [00:35:00] farmer's market or, you know, hold hands or something like that.And I'll put that I practice non-hierarchical poly, that I'm open about my poly status. Cause I think that's important. Like, I've dated people who are both open and not open about being poly. And I think that that is I think a key point in your poly journey. You might not wanna come out right away.And I, I understand why like I myself didn't come out right away to family or friends. But then I did it kind of like little by little. Like I came out first to my siblings and then I came out first to my friends, and then I came out to my. Work. And then I came out to my parents directly because even though it was all on social media and stuff, they don't pay [00:36:00] attention.So like I came out in doses as being polyamorous until I was out completely like public. And surprisingly everybody was super supportive. People within the business community, a lot of friends, people, church people sometimes from Facebook, like people are very open and they're curious and not everybody's out to like get you and not everything is gonna hurt you.And I think we're all brought up to fear a lot and to fear being different. And I think that one of the main things that I took away is that it's okay to be yourself and it's okay to be open. It might just take a little bit of time to get there. So I think putting whether or not you're open practicing poly, I think is an important thing.[00:37:00]I don't know. I don't know how explicit people would wanna get about that. I think that's a personal choice. So I'm not gonna say, I think that that's something like they should talk, they should decide for themselves and talk about with their therapists about whether or not they wanna discuss that with people.But for me it just helps a lot to be, to say, I am open about poly. I'm not ashamed to show you to my friends. I'm not afraid to be seen out in public with you because I think that's important. I put that I have a nesting partner. I put how long I've been together with them, and I put what I'm expecting from a relationship.Like I wanna be in an actual loving relationship with somebody. And I would like. To share time, like time is one of the ways that I like to express myself.Hmm. De'Vannon: This is all sounded so great. [00:38:00] I'm curious, have you had any sort of like negative experience maybe someone you had to dismiss, cut ties with or anything like that? Lluvia: Yes. It is very complicated. Everything is not gonna be easy. You're, the more people you love, the more you expose yourself to heartache.I will say that because you're dealing with people and emotions and different needs, it's just the same as a monogamous relationship where you work through challenges together. And whether or not you want to do that, you know, is, is the key. I have broken up with two women in the past. within polyamory while I have my nesting partner.And it was hard, you know, I love them and [00:39:00] it, we just, just like anything else is like, if you're not right for somebody, even if you can sleep within it, and even if you do meet some of their needs, sometimes somebody just isn't right for you. And sometimes if they pass your boundaries and they have different boundaries and they don't want to change for that, or you don't wanna change, then you're not right for each other.Like even if, even if you, even if you can, not all things are beneficial to you. So I think that that was an interesting learning point for me is like, is this person, even if I can sleep with them, even if I do have fun, am I supposed to be with them? Even if this is. Something that's open to me, or is this negative to, is this negative to my life in some way?And I think just like everything else is, like if something is negative to you in your life and it consistently is negative, then you shouldn't have it in your life. [00:40:00] Like, however, if they're just like every other relationship, some benefits and some cons, are you willing to work through those cons? And is that person willing to work through your cons?And then it's just like a, a happy relationship where you continuously give and take, give and take in a, in a positive way. , De'Vannon: let me reiterate. UVI mentioned the, the T word therapist a couple of times there. We do encourage you all to get you some type of mental health tele, p v, you, single poly, a ho, whatever the fuck you might be, because, you know, sometimes we have traumas and we think we've dealt with 'em and we haven't really dealt with 'em, and we find ourselves reacting and overreacting or underreacting, you know, the people that we are in relationships with.You need somebody who's trained in the mind field, okay, to help you. Hypnotherapy neurolinguistic pro [00:41:00] programming, n o p, whatever. There's all kinds of things out there now, but you need to, you need help to search through yourself to be sure that you're your best possible self. Anything you care to say about therapists in particular Lluvia: therapists are lifesavers.Do not think that. . Oh my problems aren't big enough for therapy cuz I promised you they are . I think therapy is one of the best things that I've ever done for myself. And even if it seems like a lot of money sometimes I think it's an investment that's well worth having because you have somebody who's trained to help you and trained to support you as opposed to, you know, people in your life who might be giving you bad advice cause they might be enabling you or you might be in bar wrong, you know?So I think it's always important to have an unbiased viewpoint who is there to equip you with the resources that you De'Vannon: need. , [00:42:00] right. And so I'm not a fan of like venting for instance, you know, in my previous relationship, you know, you know, my boyfriend, he liked to go and vent to his friends and I would be like, but they can't give you no damn relationship advice.They don't have relationships of their own or anything like that. Well, I think, I think he just wanted to kind of like be heard. And I was like, well that's cute, but that doesn't solve the problem and that didn't help you. You know, any sort of like practical way to evolve to just keep talking about it.But to me that was just a transfer of negative energy from one person to another with a no resolution. So I'm not a big fan of venting. And I was also gonna say, you mentioned the cost. We can get creative with that. You know, we found down at Louisiana State University, the grad students working on their psych degrees, we were able to go be seen for couples therapy there and it was like 10 or 15 bucks each session.Absolutely. The hypnotherapy class school that I went to [00:43:00] out in California, the Hypnosis MO Motivation Institute, they have an intern program and you can see the interns for a fraction of the cost, you know, or for however much or less it is, as opposed to seeing a regular therapist. So I would look into the intern programs at different schools and things like that and see if they run a clinic or something like that.And I found the therapy to be just as good, if not better, coming from the grad students at lsu. Right. Lluvia: I think it's important to know what all of the resources are and get in touch with somebody. I don't think you should rule out. any type of service that would benefit you or your friends or your family.De'Vannon: And now we gotta get humble enough people to understand that there is no shame in going to see a mental health therapist. In the black community, and especially here in the south, there's a lot of stigma surrounding mental health services. You're not weak, you are more weak trying to [00:44:00] act like that you are more powerful than what you are as opposed to owning up to your humanity.And weaknesses. Your true weakness is, is is the delusion of strength that you don't really possess. Right. Lluvia: I think I think within minority families there's always a sense of shame or very commonly a sense of shame associated with mental health. I remember the first time that I told my parents that I was seeing a therapist consistently and taking medication.because I was, had genetic depression and generalized anxiety. And I remember saying like, this is something that is cyclical that affects my life significant significantly at certain periods of time to where I'm high functioning. But [00:45:00] there's gonna be certain peers in my life where, you know, I might not be able to get out of bed or I might not be able to go to work or, and I've learned how to combat that because of therapy.And I've learned how to regulate self-regulate my emotions when I am having a hard time. And I think I used to lean too much on people sometimes that were not equipped with that. Like I used to lean on my friends, which is great to lean on your friends, which is great. It's fine to vent. but not to the point where you like need physical help from a professional that they can't supply.Right. So I think that that was a significant moment in my life and I remember my telling my parents that and the first time they heard it, cause I was fairly young, I was, I think I was still in college at the time. The first time they heard it, they were like, why do you need to go to therapy for? [00:46:00]And cuz they had never gone to therapy and they just were like pick yourself up by your bootstraps kind of people.And I was like, because I have genetic depression and generalized anxiety and sometimes I can't function. And they said, that's just ridic, that's all in your head. And I'm like, exactly. , that's De'Vannon: all. Cause it's Lluvia: genetic. And then they started seeing how well I was responding to therapy. and like evading.I used to fight with them a lot and some of that just like got into being able to resolve the f some of the family issues. Cause you know, we all have a lot of them resolved some of the family issues that had caused our fighting and once they saw the benefits of me being less reactionary and being [00:47:00]proactive about mending some aspects of our relationship, they were like, that therapy is working out for you.And I'm like, yeah guys. Yeah, it's, I'm glad y'all noticed. De'Vannon: Cool. Hell yeah. Well, I'm having, you're able to find a sense of peace and resolution within your family. I look at my mental health therapist. I have a hypnotherapist, I have a licensed clinical social worker, you know, and I just, okay. I have a bitch who does my nails, have a bitch who does my facials on crying, and I have a bitch who helps me with the psychia.It is just another one of my luxurious treatments that I'm pampering myself with. The way I see it, it is just, you know, you got a gardener, a cook, a therapist, honey, they're all people who come to give you a personal service. So I just think it's luxe. Absolutely. So you mentioned a word in our pre-talk that you were talking about and you called it code switching and, and we were talking , and I thought it was just the coolest fucking you know coining of the terms.And [00:48:00] I want you to talk to us about what code switching means to you and how it's beneficial in this situation. Ah.Lluvia: I, I I'm a person who travels in a lot of different circles. So right now we're discussing like my more alternative side, right? We're discussing like polyamory and alts and kink and stuff like that, which is a side of my life, like a part of my life. Then we have business, right? I, I'm a very front facing person.Like I work with a lot of clients, I work with teams. I'm in a leadership role. Like this is something that is very important to me as well. [00:49:00] There are people who. identify themselves a certain way, but I feel like I'm more of a chameleon. Like I like to travel in a lot of different circles and I like to engage with a lot of different people.And I like to express myself physically in different ways. So like, that means like dressing like a goth one day, dressing like a Barbie doll, the other dressing like a, a, you know, ice cold business queen. Like, I can, I can do that. And that's what I like, I like to do that. And that doesn't mean that everybody has to do that.It's just who I am. So one of the things that I do is I called it, call it code switching because I was brought up in a very poor way. Like we were poor. We didn't, sometimes we didn't have a lot to eat. We [00:50:00] were in an old house that was like infested and stuff like that. Like I remember like hearing rats, chewing at wallpaper when I was little in inside the walls of the house.Like I, so I know what it is to grow up and be poor, but I also know what it is to grow up and be an adult and be a leader and have money. So like I go between, I know what life is like in not having enough to eat and stuff like that. So like, this is what I call code switching. Sometimes it's like, on one hand I used to be poor and now I am comfortable on one hand I am Hispanic.On the other, I can travel within any circles, which is like white, black, Hispanic, min, other minority [00:51:00] cultures. Like I can travel within those and feel comfortable. I can. Be within the business world or I can be, you know, cutting up at a party. Like I can, I can be anyone and I can be anything and I'm very comfortable that way.So whenever you're in different social circles, you tend to code switch as to whatever the language there or appearance there will be best understood by the people that are within that social circle. So for instance, if I am in a meeting, I'm like gonna be like, what's up bitch? You look great. I love that.Look at, look girl, I love those shoes on. You really are fucking shoes girl. Yeah, absolutely. You are. You are working it, you are a dime. Like I'm not gonna go up in a meeting and say that to somebody, but I will say that to one of my best friends. . [00:52:00] If we're at a party, I'd be like, you are so hot. Punch me in the face right now.Like, I can be like that to her and nobody's gonna think anything. So like the way you engage with people, the way you present yourself differently amongst different social groups is often co called code switching. So I feel like I do that a lot too, because I enjoy being an educator and I enjoy having other people see me in a way that they can understand me.So like even if I present as alt sometimes, there's always an aspect of myself that is going to be safe, that is gonna feel safe to other people or other social. De'Vannon: And see, I never had enough class to act right at the meeting at work. That's why I had to stop trying to work for other people cuz I was the fool up in the board meeting.So I was like, oh bitch, nice tits. And whatever the case, I had no class, no demeanor and you know, so [00:53:00] I always got in trouble, whatever job I ever had. So I just stopped fucking working for people cuz I wasn't trying to tone it down. The sed, the sedentary over here only knew one way and that was turned all the way to, of course Lluvia: you are Sam, of courseBut like, here's the thing. Not everybody should do that. Not everybody needs to do that. I think the beauty of people is that they are, are who they are. You know, like I, one of the favorite things that I like to describe, like, I was trying to describe my si you two, my sister and I was like, well what is this Devana like?And I was like, listen, hilarious, spontaneous. The life of the party, like generous to a fault. Like these are all things that describe, that, describe him and I, you know, I'll, I describe people differently. It's just, it's, it's who you are. It's who people should love you De'Vannon: for. [00:54:00] Right. Well, thank you for those kind words.And I just wanna add that you can code switch and shift in as it, as it was explained to me by my mentor growing up. It's adjusting. You know, as you go out into the world now, you're doing this changing, but you're not being fake. You're not betraying who you are. It's understanding that when you go out into the world, it is your responsibility to make the world understand you.It is not the world's responsibility to just get on your level. You know, if you want people's attention, you want them to take you seriously. You have got to learn to read the, read the dynamics in the room. Read the culture in the room, read the energy in the room, and still be yourself and be true to yourself.But express yourself in the way that group A is gonna understand you. And group B is gonna understand you in group C all the way through Z and back around again. And just tweak yourself a little bit and not feel like, you know, not feel [00:55:00] like that that's a bad thing, that you gotta change a little bit when you're in front of different people, but figure out how to do that without abandoning who you are.Right? So I say this to like the introverted people out there, cuz this was an issue I had with my previous boyfriend, super introverted. And you know, he found trouble expressing himself in different situations or to me, you know? And I was like, well, you know, you gotta learn how to, you know, how to still be you, but be a little bit different and not be mad about it and embrace the diversity.And in the poly world, you know, you're gonna be dealing with a lot of different people and you're gonna have to be able to code switch and you know, , I would take it as a challenge. You know, if I was an introverted person, this is a way for you to grow and to get out there and to work on those people skills.Now on the time management side of it, what I was curious about spiritually speaking, and I know that people have varying degrees of spirituality. How do you find time to be poly and give all this attention to these people and [00:56:00] still spend, spend time with your higher power? Lluvia: That is a very good question.I have not always been very good at balancing that. But I am spiritual. I am still religious, so I am a Christian and I follow Buddhist philosophies. I also like to, I know this sounds like an oxymoron, but I also practice witchcraft and so I try to find time. To connect with all of this, like I try to find time to meditate.I try to find maybe like 10, 15 minutes to read a little bit to keep up my understanding of different philosophies and scriptures and stuff like that. I find that it is [00:57:00] very important to be true to myself and what I am drawn to and be outside more because everything that I do is connected to the internet.And so, like sometimes I get overloaded with electronic devices, even though I really don't wanna be on my phone. Sometimes I'll still be on my phone because it's an a. . So sometimes I have to break away from that. Sometimes I'm gonna say like, ah, throw the phone down. It's, it's over. I'm not doing this anymore.I'm going outside. I think you make time. I have a coach who coached me with marathon training and he said, and I was complaining about, I don't know, running five miles every morning. I was like, I don't have time to do this. And he said, you make time for the things you love or the things you wanna do.[00:58:00]And if you're not making time for that, it means that you don't wanna do it as much. Which is true, like if you really wanna do something, you are going to find a way to make time for it or make it possible, or, you know, change a little bit to be more fluid in the way that you present yourself or the way that you achieve that.So I think. being realistic, setting like 10 to 15 minutes of time to be by yourself to connect, I think is important. I really love people, so I tend to give myself a lot to other people, whether it's friends or like family or partners. So I have to be very conscious of making my own time because it's not them pushing time on me.It's me giving time to [00:59:00] them and then depleting myself. And so it's my responsibility because this is my problem, to have a loan to time, to have spiritual time, which are different and then have time with other people. So I think that that's the thing that I've learned the most. Is learning how to balance all that.And one of the things that I would recommend for that is asking people how much time they need to feel supported and loved by you or feel like they need to get to know you. And so scheduling that time consciously ahead of time, cuz everybody has their own plans. The older you get, the more people are gonna have their own plans and responsibility.So I think it's very responsible to, when you're talking to somebody, say, how much time would you like to spend a week? How much time do you have? [01:00:00] Are there any important days that I should be aware of? Would you like? And then when you get more serious, you say, would you like to share a calendar so you know what I have going on in my day and you know where I'll be?And like, that's just, it's, it's a. . Some people might not do that, but I find that it's very helpful because there is transparency there and you're giving somebody a space in your life. So even if they know that you're busy, they know that you care about them and they are brought up to date as to like what you're doing and you know what you like and stuff like that.De'Vannon: Oh, sweet. Transparency. Transparency and trust. I want you to talk about trust and then that'll be kind of like how we wrap it up because I feel like a lot of trust is needed in this, in this world, in this poly world. If you're gonna do it. [01:01:00] Okay. Lluvia: Well, well, first of all, we start off every relationship the same.Like there is no trust there, right? Every relationship is the same. You have no trust. You have to build it. . So the more time you spend with somebody, the more you share your life with them, the more you know their likes and dislikes the more trust is gonna be built up because you're spending quality time and you're getting to know them in an intimate way and intimate, not just physical, but intimate as to who they are and what they think and what they find important.So I think that that is very necessary to build. I think it's important to know not just like, oh, you can not just say to somebody, oh, you can trust me cuz they're not gonna trust you. Nobody's gonna trust anybody in the beginning. You take [01:02:00] time to know what matters to them. And I think building trust for me would be more like texting them, like saying hi in the morning, saying like, Hey, how was your day?What were you worried about? What's something interesting that you like and just like being there? Being there and being vulnerable I think are the two hardest things. Especially in the beginning when you're starting to date somebody. Cuz they don't, sometimes you don't know if they like you back right away and you're like all nervous like, oh, I shouldn't have said that.Or you know, should I tell them that? I was thinking about them the other day. Yes bitch, you should tell them, be vulnerable. It's hard as fuck, but it's gonna pay off. Like, do the thing that you're scared to do because everybody is scared. Everybody's scared. And yeah. So that's what I would recommend. I would say practice vulnerability.Don't be, you know, don't be stupid and [01:03:00] give somebody your, you know, social security number. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about like being vulnerable bu about where you stand with somebody. That's how much you want to be with them and stuff like that. Like I think that's really sweet and like as long as you're not, like, I'm not a big proponent, proponent, blah.I'm not a big proponent of you hauling because yes, there's a lot of vulnerability involved, but I think a slow build is really, the lesbians are gonna kill me. The slow build is like really healthy for people. And I'm not saying it doesn't work out for some people. I'm just saying like there's more, the more you spend time you spend with somebody, the more you know them.The more trust is built, the more y'all are invested, and the less easy it will be to break a video1953292028-1: relat.De'Vannon: Oh, that's very high wisdom if I've ever heard it. [01:04:00] Thank you so much for your time today. Her on Instagram, y'all, she is Taco Blic, ma, also known as your cool aunt. And then on TikTok, she's also at Taco Bima and that's t a c o b e double l i double s i m a, the one happy taco right there. And so , if you have any last words of wisdom or encouragement, you may spin them right now or whatever you wanna say.Lluvia: Well, I think the most important thing is, is to have fun and to not take things too seriously and to just kind of like discover and allow yourself to make mistakes and recover from them. And I think that's the most important part cuz I didn't get too caught up in being, doing the right thing all the time and reading the right books and.Being appropriate to people all the time. And I got too caught up in the should and should [01:05:00]not, and I forgot to have fun. So I think it's very important that while yes, you learn and educate yourself, go out and have fun and have a good time and get to know people and, and then you'll, you'll find what works for you.De'Vannon: Oh, so sweet. Thank you so much for being our guide on the path to polyamory and y'all look forward to hearing from Ms. Taima in the future. Thank you so much for coming on the show today.Lluvia: Thank you so much for having me.De'Vannon: Thank you all so much for taking time to listen to the Sex Drugs in Jesus podcast. It really means everything to me. Look, if you love the show, you can find more information and resources at Sex Drugs in jesus.com or wherever you listen to your podcast. Feel free to reach out to me [01:06:00] directly at Davanon Sex Drugs and jesus.com and on Twitter and Facebook as well.My name is Davanon, and it's been wonderful being your host today. And just remember that everything is gonna be all right. 

Tune in as Michael Jamin talks with his good friend, actor Rick Negron who plays King George in Hamilton. Discover what he has to say about being the first Latino King George, doing his first show in his home country of Puerto Rico alongside Lin-Manuel Miranda who was acting as Hamilton, and his overall Hamilton touring and acting career experience.Show NotesInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/rick_negron/?hl=enIMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0624508/?ref_=nmmi_mi_nmIBDB: https://www.ibdb.com/broadway-cast-staff/rick-negron-107348The Spokesman-Review: https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2022/apr/28/youll-be-back-in-playing-king-george-iii-in-hamilt/Michael's Online Screenwriting Course - https://michaeljamin.com/courseFree Screenwriting Lesson - https://michaeljamin.com/freeJoin My Watchlist - https://michaeljamin.com/watchlistAutomated Transcript:Rick Negron (00:00:00):That's still the case nowadays for a lot of young dancers and, and musical theater types. They go to New York and they take dance classes and they take voice lessons, and they take acting classes, and they get that picture and resume ready, and they go to open calls. And if you're talented and you're lucky sometimes you, you get an equity show, a, a union show from an open call. It's tough. And you have to, you have to hit that pavement. And sometimes, you know, getting to know, being in the right place at the right time. I, I, I was mentioning to you before that I, I booked this H B O commercial and I met more a dancer on that show who said, Hey, you'd be right for the show. And one of the guys is leaving the show and they're having auditions at the theater, and you should go. And that's how I got my first Broadway show.Michael Jamin (00:00:50):You're listening to Screenwriters. Need to hear this with Michael Jamin.Michael Jamin (00:00:58):Hey everyone, it's Michael Jamin. Welcome to Screenwriters. Need to hear this. If you are an aspiring theatrical actor, I got a present for you and we're gonna unwrap him right now. And his name is Rick Negron. And he's been my buddy for many years. He's at my wedding. We go back, Rick. Now Rick is most famous for probably, he's done a ton of stuff though, but he's probably most famous for playing the role of king George in the touring company of Hamilton, which he's been doing for four years. But he's done a ton of Broadway stuff. We're gonna talk about him. He's also done voices. I didn't know this, but he was also he does vo he did some voices in Red Dead Redemption as well as grand Theft Auto, which I wanna know all about that as well. But mostly I wanna talk about his incredible theatrical acting career. Rick, thank you so much. Thank you so much for . ForRick Negron (00:01:47):What? Michael Jamin? I'm in the room. I'm, I'm in the room where it happens, man.Michael Jamin (00:01:52):, this is the room. This, what people don't realize is that I recorded some of this and I bone, I didn't, I didn't record, so, yeah. And this is, this is part two of our interview. I had a record over cuz I wasn't recording. StuffRick Negron (00:02:03):Happens. And you know what, Michael, you, you and I can talk till the cows come home. This is not a problem.Michael Jamin (00:02:09):This Rick's great guy, and he's gonna tell us all about. I, I, I had, so there's so much I wanted to get outta you, but first of all, what I, we were talking about is, you've been doing Hamilton, you've been King George and Hamilton, the first Latino King George, I might say, which is a big deal. And so yeah, you've been touring the country from city to city, and I kind of really wanted to talk to you about like, what is your, what is your day like when you go up on stage, you know, what are you doing before, what you're doing all before that, before you got on stage, because it's a, you've been done. How many performances have you said you're done? This,Rick Negron (00:02:44):I'm over 900 easily. I'm close to like nine 50. I, I, I don't count 'em, but every time the, the company management has like, oh, this is our 900th performance, I just kind of go, well, I've only missed maybe about between vacations and days that I've been sick. Maybe I've missed 30 at the most over a four year period. , that's, I've, I've done a lot of performancesMichael Jamin (00:03:11):And, and we were talking about this and your character, like I, I've, I hate to make you repeat it, but how do you get, like, how do you get psyched up before each show when you do that many shows? How are you, what's your process before you, you run on stage?Rick Negron (00:03:27):Well, this, this character is a real gift in the sense that it's beautifully written. Mm-Hmm. , it's just three songs. honestly, Uhhuh . I'm on stage for a little over 10 minutes, but it's so well written that if I just hook into the words of, of the songs, I got 'em. Uhhuh you. I, I, I can, I can hook my myself into that myself, into that character very easily, just with the words. But the other gift is that I have time to get ready. So when every, when the show, when we are at places and the show starts, that's when I get my wig on. Mm-Hmm. I still have 15 minutes to do some vocal warmups and get dressed. And are youMichael Jamin (00:04:12):To being like tea with lemon? What are you sit, what are you doing that day?Rick Negron (00:04:16):Nah, nah. I, I mean, I'm not a huge tea guy unless, unless I'm having some vocal distress. And then I do like a nice warm tea with honey and lemon if I'm, if, if my voice is a little wonky or my throat's a little sore. But the main thing for me for vocal capacity is sleep. If I get less than seven hours, my voice suffers. If I eat a lot of cheese and dairy, that's gonna be a lot of gunk on the vocal courts.Michael Jamin (00:04:45):But if you're nervous the nightRick Negron (00:04:46):BeforeMichael Jamin (00:04:47):Hmm. But if you're nervous, if you have, if you get stage nerves and you can't sleep the night before , right? I mean, no. Are you, are you beyond that?Rick Negron (00:04:55):Yeah, I'm beyond that. I mean, I've been in the business long enough that, that I, I get nervous. Uhhuh and God knows, I was nervous the first time I did the show in front of an audience in Puerto Rico of all places. Right. That's where we opened, right. With Lynn Manuel Miranda back in the role of Hamilton after being a away from it for a few years. That was a dream job because I'm from Puerto Rico and I literally went back homeMichael Jamin (00:05:23):To a heroRick Negron (00:05:23):Welcome star and one of the biggest shows on Broadway with Lynn Manuel Miranda and me playing the king. Yeah. I was born like four blocks away from the theater that we were at. It was just crazy sauce. So yes, I was incredibly nervous opening night. And there was my wife, my sister-in-law, in the audience you know, yes. Really nervous. But did I lose sleep the night before? No. I slept like a baby. No, really? My nerves don't really hit me until I start putting on that costumeMichael Jamin (00:05:51):. Really? Yeah. I see. I would imagine to me, I mean, I know it's a big deal to be star of a movie, but to me this to me seems like a bigger deal. What you, what you're doing in terms of, it seems like a you are lead in this giant freaking play that, I mean, one of the biggest plays, you know, of our, of our time on. Seriously. Yeah. Yeah. And you are these, you play this character who the minute he walks on stage, the place goes nuts cuz you hit a home run and then you walk out, you're the home run guy. Exactly. Bye. Hello. No. ExpectRick Negron (00:06:21):Bye. And by the way, no expectation. I'd literally walk on stage and the place goes bananas. And I haven't saidMichael Jamin (00:06:26):A word. Right. They love you before. You haven't even said anything. I mean, what a huge, I don't know. I just think this is like, I don't know, if I were an aspiring actors, that would be the part. I don't see how you, I don't know how, where you go from here, Rick Rick Negron (00:06:41):. It's all downhillMichael Jamin (00:06:43):.Rick Negron (00:06:45):No, I guess listen, it, the beauty of it is also that I've had this really long career mm-hmm. and, you know, I started out as a chorus boy on Broadway and then worked myself into understudy and then did some roles. And then finally at, at a ripe old age. I've gotten this great job and I've really, I'm at the point in my life where I'm really enjoying it. Yeah. I'm enjoying the process. I'm enjoying the traveling cuz I, I, I've toured some, but I haven't toured a lot. And this tour has been to some really great cities all on the west coast up and down the west coast. Yeah, the mountain west. In the winter I got some snowboarding in, in Salt Lake City, Denver. I,Michael Jamin (00:07:33):Where are you supposed to do that with you if you break your leg?Rick Negron (00:07:36):Yeah, I'm not supposed to do that. Can we delete that from the podcast? ? We can take that out. . It's in the past. I don't care. Okay. I, I stayed on the bunny slopes. I Right. I really took it easy. But then we spent summer in Canada, which was amazing. I was up in Calgary in the summer and went up to band for the first time in my life. And my wife, Leslie, who you know well, came up to visit and we stayed on Emerald Lake and I just spent two months in Hawaii. So this tour has just been amazing. Well, it started out in Puerto Rico, as I said, right. For a month with Manuel Miranda. And then we went to San Francisco and sat for a, a year in San Francisco. So I got to live in San Francisco Right. For a year and experienced that incredible city until the pandemic. And then we shut down for a year and four months before we started up again.Michael Jamin (00:08:27):And then, and then So how did you start? We, how did you start? Like, you know, take me back. I know you, I know you were, take me back to when you were a child. Did you, I mean, this is, did you dream of being a Broadway star like this? Like, what happened? Who, who dreams of that? Like who, how, I mean, you all dream of that, but who achieves it, I guess?Rick Negron (00:08:46):Well, a lot of people do. A lot of people do. And, and, and not everybody has the path that I had, but some of us get bitten by the bug early on. And I got bitten by the bug when I was 10. Right. And my mom was the drama teacher at school. And I guess I blame her for everything. But this mustMichael Jamin (00:09:06):Be the be like, you must be the, the crowning achievement in her, in her in her life.Rick Negron (00:09:12):Yeah. She's, but I did, she's pretty proud. And I have ano another sister who also went in into theater and and so the whole family kind of w it was the family thing we all sang. Right. we all did mu mu musicals in the local community theater and children's theater. So it was a family thing for us growing up. But I'm the one that sort of got bitten hard. And then I got involved, like at 14 mm-hmm. a choreographer. I was doing a, a mu a children's theater show, said, Hey, you've got some talent as a dancer. Come take, I'll give you a scholarship at my little dance school. And so after school at 14, I would go take ballet, jazz, tap and acrobatics after school with Susan Cable, who luckily was a great dance teacher. She had been a, a chorus person on Broadway.(00:10:05):Wow. And, and, and that's what, how I started in my dance career. And then it kind of took off. And by the time I got to college I thought I was gonna be a, a concert dancer. I was in college, I was sort of groomed to, to, to possibly go into the Paul Taylor Dance company. And I actually was not on scholarship. I was a intern with a Paul Taylor dance company for a while until I realized I'm making no money. I'm working super hard and I've always wanted to be on Broadway. That was my realMichael Jamin (00:10:42):Dream. So those people don't interchange those concert dancers. Don't, they don't.Rick Negron (00:10:46):Some do it. Usually the concert dancers, if they can sing.Michael Jamin (00:10:52):Right.Rick Negron (00:10:54):Will, will sort of move into the musical theater world and sometimes move back into the concert dance world. One of the great concert dancers of all time who I met when he was super young, Desmond Richardson mm-hmm. he was a lead dancer with the Alban AI company for many, many, many years. I mean a God in the dance world. And now he owns his own owns, he runs his own dance company, complexions. And he's a great choreographer. And he was in the bad video with me back in the day with Michael Jackson. Right.Michael Jamin (00:11:30):So Rick was in the, I should say for the, I don't wanna gloss over this. Rick. Rick was in the a dance for, in the Michael Jackson's bad video directed by Martin Scorsese. Yeah. Was Quincy Jones produced?Rick Negron (00:11:41):Yeah, 1985. I was, I was a chorus dancer at the time. I was in I was doing my second Broadway show. The mystery of Evan, Dr. My dance captain was Rob Marshall. went on to direct Chicago, the movie and many other movies since then. And, and while I was doing the show, there was this audition for the bad video and yeah, it was, it was really surreal. I took vacation from, from the Broadway show to do the video and, and, and got to meet Michael who was really sort of like, it was two people in that body. I mean, he was super shy and, and sort of very reserved, but the minute the cameras went on it, he was, he became somebody else. Right. And he was a perfectionist. 25 takes sometimes e every setup. And Scorsese was famous for just burning through film. Easy 20 Takes the video was supposed to shoot for two weeks, and I think it went for four. And this is a music video. It was the first SAG music video at the time, by the way.Michael Jamin (00:12:44):Really?Rick Negron (00:12:45):Anyway, Desmond Richardson was a young dancer at the time. There were a lot of young New York dancers in, in that show. And he famously went into the Avid Ailey company, but then he also worked on Fosse the Musical. And he also worked on Chicago. The, the movie with me. I, I got to work on Chicago, the movie cuz I had this great relationship with Rob Marshall and, and I was invited to audition. I didn't get, the dancers don't usually just get the job. You still have to come in and audition. Right. But even though, you know, the people involved it just is the way it is. And, and there was, and, and Desmond and, and I, we bump into each other all the time and we have so many memories. You know, going back 20, what is that, 85? 1985 was the bad video.(00:13:35):And I, I still bump into 'em. I I've been into 'em at the opening of the new USC school a few years ago. The School of Dance there at usc, the Kaufman School of Dance, I think it's called. But anyway yeah, people go in in from the dance world into musical theater and they go back and forth. Not a lot. Actually. We have one member of our, our of our of our Hamilton company, Andrew who was a modern dancer in the dance world and then moved into musical theater. And,Michael Jamin (00:14:04):But you were telling me how, and this is kind of important cause people are gonna be like, well, how do I break in? And you were, I mean, what, as you were explaining, it's like, it's basically you had this, you were just, you were in the circle, you were just there, and then things le one thing leads to enough simply because you put yourself there. Right. So how did you, what was your first break? How did you get that? I mean,Rick Negron (00:14:24):Every, everybody, everybody has a, a different story about first breaks. And when I was starting out, it was really different. Things have changed, you know, in all these years. Now, if you go to the right school, you can get into the right you know casting director workshop. And they see, oh, really? You, and, and maybe you get an agent out of that workshop and, and you know, it's, it, when I started out it, that wasn't the case when I started out. You go to New York, you start taking dance class at all the big dance studios where all the other Broadway dancers are taking dance class mm-hmm. . And then you pick up Backstage. Mm-Hmm. newspaper, and you go to the open equity calls for every show. I remember my first open equity call was for cats, the national tour, right after Cats had opened on Broadway.(00:15:14):And I, I had four callbacks. I got really close to booking cats, but I didn't. And and I just kept going to open calls. And that's still the case nowadays for a lot of young dancers and, and musical theater types. They go to New York and they take dance classes and they take voice lessons and they take acting classes and they get that picture and resume ready and they go to open calls. And if you're talented and you're lucky sometimes you, you get an equity show, a a union show from an open call. It's tough. And you have to, you have to hit that pavement. And sometimes, you know, getting to know, being in the right place at the right time. I, I, I was mentioning to you before that I, I booked this H B O commercial and I met one, a dancer on that show who said, Hey, you'd be right for the show. And one of the guys is leaving the show and they're having auditions at the theater and you should go. And that's how I got my first Broadway show by somebody suggesting that I go audition and I showed up at the theater and auditioned. And that night I got the job. And that's how I got my first Broadway show. The moreMichael Jamin (00:16:24):People, you know, the more you work, the more you hear andRick Negron (00:16:27):The more you Exactly. Yeah. You're in the mix. You have to in be in the mix and you have to network. And nowadays that involves, as you know social media and getting, getting followers and, and and, and putting out videos of yourself, singing and putting out videos of yourself, dancing and putting out videos of yourself, acting. I mean there's all that stuff that's going on now that wasn't going on when I started. But is, is is the new reality of how do you get into the business really. Okay. And, and when young, when young people ask me how, you know, how do I get started? And I say, well, in your hometown, get involved. Do the, do the school musicals, but get involved with the community theater. In any way you can. If, if you want to be an actor, but you know, there isn't a role for you do the work on the sets.(00:17:19):I worked on sets in community theater. Mm-Hmm. , I helped my mom. She, she was makeup artist too. And so I helped with makeup and I, I did lights. I, you know, I did all kinds of stuff just to be in the room. Right. Just to see other people work, to, to network, to meet people. And and I'm glad I did because I kind of know my way around all the different elements of theater. You know, I know what Alico is. I know, you know what all the different microphones are that they use in theater. And I, I always, I always befriend the crew. I think , as an actor, we can tend to be insular andMichael Jamin (00:17:57):Oh reallyRick Negron (00:17:58):Hang out with just the actors. I hang out with the crew. The crew knows what's up. Uhhuh , the crew knows where the good, the good bars are in town. They, you know, the crew is, and, and they're the ones that watch your back. When you're on the road.Michael Jamin (00:18:13):Now you were explaining to me the, and I didn't know the difference between, cuz you as the king, king, king George, you have two understudies, but there's also swing actors. Explain to me how that all works.Rick Negron (00:18:24):So in the show, you usually, you have the ensemble, which is what we used to call the chorus. Yeah. And then you have the leads. And in the ensemble you usually have two male swings and two female swings. So those individuals are not in the show nightly, but they literally understudy all the f the, the females understudy, all the females and the males understudy. All the males. And that's usually a case. They have two male and two female. In Hamilton, we have four female swings and four male swings. I think I'm right. Three or four. We have a lot. And that's because Hamilton is such a, a beast of a show. It's so hard. Physically. People get injured, people get tired.Michael Jamin (00:19:06):It's like being a professional athlete. It's no different.Rick Negron (00:19:08):Yeah. Yeah. And you're doing it eight times a week. And after a year it's repetitive motion for a lot of dancers. Oh. So I always tell those dancers, don't just do the show. Go, go and do yoga. Go do a dance class cuz you have to work your muscles a different way. Otherwise you're gonna get repetitive motion injuries. Wow. You know, like the same person that that screws on the, you know, back in the day when they screwed down the, the toothpaste cap every day that those muscles every day, all day long are gonna get messed up.Michael Jamin (00:19:37):But do they have like a trainer or doctor on set at all times?Rick Negron (00:19:40):We have a personal train PT, physical therapist right on tour with us. Most heavy dance shows will have that on tour. Because they need, they need the upkeep. The dancers, especially in this show work so hard. They, they need somebody to help them recover from injury. And, and just keep their bodies tuned up.Michael Jamin (00:20:04):And so let's say you get, you're in Hamilton, let's say you're, you're a swing or whatever, but, and then you're on tour, they what, give you a per diem? Or do they put you up in housing? How, like what is the, what is that really like to be?Rick Negron (00:20:15):So let me I'm, I'm gonna finish the whole understudy thing because Oh yeah. You have the swings and then you have the understudies, which are people in the chorus who understudy the leads. But then you also have standbys. And the standbys aren't in the show. Right. But they're backstage and they understudy anywhere between 2, 3, 4, 4 different characters. And so at the drop of the hat, they can say, Hey, you're on tonight for Burr, or you're on tonight for Hamilton. It, it can happen five minutes before the show. You can know way in advance cuz you know that character's going on vacation and stage management has told you, oh, you're gonna do the first five of, of, of the, of the vacation or the first four and somebody else is gonna do the other four. So you may know ahead of time and you can ask or tell your friends and family to come see you do that role. Right. Cause you know, ahead of time. But many times you, you find out last minute that somebody is sick or, or doesn't fe or hurt their knee or whatever. Or even in the middle of the show, sometimes somebody will twist an ankle and boom, we have a new bur in act two. It, it's, it's happened not a lot, but it's happened often enough that the understudies come in, warmed up and ready to go.Michael Jamin (00:21:26):But you explained to me even before every performance, even though you've done the same freaking songs for 900 times, you still mentally prepare yourself. You go through, you rehearse each, each song that you go through. So you walk yourself through it. But I can't even imagine if, like, if you, how do you prepare yourself for four different roles possibly. You know, like how do you do that? It's like you, it'sRick Negron (00:21:49):Crazy. Yeah. They, they, I know some of them will go over like difficult passages in the show because there's, there's moments in the show, like for Lafayette he's got in guns and ships. He's got some, some rap that are so fast. Yeah. That I, I know the understudies will go over those, what, what we called the, the, the moments when you can trip up. You go over those moments before you go on, but the rest of you can't go through the entire show. Right. Just pick and choose those moments where you can like go backstage and just go over your words and make sure they're, they're, you know, under your belt. I go over my words because I sing the same tune three times, but with different lyrics. Right. And the, and the trap is to sing the wrong lyric in the wrong song, which I had done. And it's, there's nothing more embarrassing and gut wrenching than to sing the wrong lyric in the wrong song. And you just have to find your way back. And it, they call it walking into the white room. And because literally what does that will happen and your mind will, your mind will explode, your armpits will explode with sweat. Your eyeballs will get this big, your throat will dry. It is flight or flight or flight moment.Michael Jamin (00:23:07):Yeah. AndRick Negron (00:23:08):It's so hard to, to like try to grasp the right lyric. And, and you're in, you're literally in a white room. Yeah. And you're going, oh shit. How, how do I get back?Michael Jamin (00:23:20):Right.Rick Negron (00:23:21):And for me it's a little easier cuz my song is nice and slow, but can you imagine being Hamilton and you're rapping a mile a minute and you go into the white roomMichael Jamin (00:23:29):And do you guys talk about that? OhRick Negron (00:23:32):Yeah. Yeah. Famously on Broadway, there, there, there was a something called Burst Corner. Uhhuh which was, I, I forget who started it, but I think , they, they told 'em not to do it anymore. It was something where they post on Instagram or Facebook. Oh. so-and-so, you know, said this instead of what they should have said, you know, basically coming out and, and owning your faux PAs during a live show. Right. I remember when I did Manda La Mancha with Robert Gole on tour. He used to make up lyrics sometimes. And we, and one of the guys in the show started jotting them down. And at the end of the tour, they basically roasted him at a, at the closing night party with all the lyrics that he made up throughout, throughout the entire thing. And he was not amused.Michael Jamin (00:24:20):He was not amused. I was gonna say, IRick Negron (00:24:23):Was not amused with that one. Okay. But my favorite faux pod of his was we were in Nashville and he started singing Impossible Dream. And he's sang to dream the Impossible Dream to fight the unat of a fo to carry Moonbeams home in a jar.Michael Jamin (00:24:41):And there was like, what?Rick Negron (00:24:44):That's a big Crosby song. Oh, funny. Carry Moon Beams Home in a Jar. It's an old Bing Cosby song. And he just pulled that lyric outta nowhere and inserted it into the impossible dream. And everybody backstage just went,Michael Jamin (00:24:59):What do he say? Oh my God. That's hilarious.Rick Negron (00:25:03):But you know, I I'm, I'm, I might be roasting Robert Gole at the moment, but everybody's had those moments. Yeah. Especially in Hamilton, it happens cuz the, the words are coming fast and furious and boy, if you miss that train or you screw up, oh, it's hard to get back on.Michael Jamin (00:25:18):And I imagine ifRick Negron (00:25:20):You do, everybody does. Everybody, if youMichael Jamin (00:25:21):Do it one too many times, are you looking at unemployment?Rick Negron (00:25:24):Mm-Hmm. ? No. Really? No. Yeah. I mean, nobody does it one too many times. Uhhuh, . I mean, some understudies have more bumps in the road than others. Uhhuh. . But you, you, you know, we give them a lot of grace because being an understudy is really hard. Yeah. And so when somebody's honest and understudy you, everybody has their, their, their side view mm-hmm. just because they, they might be in the wrong spot in a certain moment or cross a little differently than the usual guy. So you just have to have some grace. Don't get upset if they're in the wrong spot. You know, just maybe nudge them a little bit or pull them or, or, or just watch out for them and don't bump into them because, you know, somebody is on. I, because I've understudied so many in so many shows, I have a lot of empathy for, for understudies and swings and, but I, I, I don't, in my experience, and I've been in a ton of shows, I haven't been around somebody who's messed up so much that they've got gotten fired. Usually when somebody's not up for the task creatives know during rehearsals that they're not cutting it. Uhhuh . And then so somebody will get, will get let go. Right. the only other time I, I remember somebody lost their voice and, and took time off and came back and lost their voice again. And it was just a situation where they couldn't do the job. Their voice just, wow. Their voice just couldn't ha hack it. And so, you know, those are tough and difficult moments. They don't happen often, but it happens.Michael Jamin (00:27:09):Wow. Yeah. And now you were also telling me, which I thought was fascinating, is that your character, because he's the king, you were talking, you know, how, how your character has evolved, you playing the same exact part has evolved over, over all these years of you playing it.Rick Negron (00:27:24):Yeah. It's, it's been a gift. I'm, I'm, you know, I've realized early on that theater really is my thing. Even though I did some TV and film when I moved to la I, I didn't, I didn't really love the work. Right. It sort of felt a little bit empty just in the sense that, you know, you sit in a trailer for hours and hours and then you get a couple of rehearsals and you shoot and you're done. And that's it. You know, and it's on, it's out there for posterity and you walk away from the, from the gig going, oh, I could have done this, I could have done that. But in theater, you get to redeem yourself every night. You know, if you screwed up the night before, you, you make it better the next night. And I love that about theater.(00:28:07):And and so for, for me I just get better over time and people say, oh, but don't you get tired eight times a week a year. I don't. I I like to, I like to tell people that it's, it's almost like being a potter. You have the same, you know, square block of clay and you're making that same pot. But every time you're doing something a little bit different and you're learning from the, the, the, yesterday when you made that pot, today you're making the same pot, but you learn something new, you discovered something new, making this pot, it's still the same pot, but you're, you may be doing a little filigree or a little curve here, or a little something different. So every night you get to shape this pot a little bit differently. And that's, for me, that's the, the beauty of it.(00:28:59):That's the challenge. I remember early on with, with this, with this character, I was in rehearsals and the the associate director Patrick Vassell said, you know, Rick, this is interesting. Most guys come in with a really large, over the top take on the king. Mm-Hmm. , you're coming in with a very spare low-key take on it. I mean, we're gonna build you up, which is usually not the case with this character. And build, build him up. Not make him bigger, but just give him more depth. Okay. And that was the rehearsal process for me. And then when I started working with Thomas Kale the, the director of Hamilton right before we opened in Puerto Rico, he said, the trick to this guy is to make him, make him as simple and as small as possible because the king can, with one finger kill a whole community. Right. Know, he just has to say, those people are gone and they're gone. So he doesn't have to do much. He has all this power. So that, that was like the best bit of information for me. And so the challenge is over time is to do less.Michael Jamin (00:30:14):Right. AndRick Negron (00:30:14):Still with all the homework that you've done and the character work that you've done, but do less. And I, and I was telling you this before, that you walk out on stage Yeah. And the audience goes crazy. And, you know, there's all this expectation and sometimes you get suckered in by this adoring audience to do more. Right. But you have to fight that feeling and do less. And that's,Michael Jamin (00:30:38):It sounds like though you got conflicting notes though. No. They directed the eight. Well,Rick Negron (00:30:43):I think because in rehearsal I was still sort of finding my way with him. Uhhuh . And instead of making this broad fabish character, which is how somebody who starts with King George and thinks, oh, I'm just gonna do this and make him big and fabish. Right. that's sort of a two-dimensional view of, of the king. And I came in with a lot of research about the guy and thinking, I, I, I don't wanna make him this two-dimensional caricature. Right. I really wanna make him a, a guy who is number one dangerousMichael Jamin (00:31:21):Uhhuh ,Rick Negron (00:31:21):Who has a lot of power and who, who is feeling jilted, but won't allow you, you can't break up with me. Right. I'm breaking up with you. You know, that kind, that kind of dynamic in this, in the first song specifically. And so I came in with that and he said, that's great. Now we're gonna just work and put more layers on him, but not necessarily make him bigger, but just give him more layers.Michael Jamin (00:31:52):Let me ask you the, because when you're in, when you say, you know, you're the analogy of making a pot, are you going into the performance thinking, I wanna try this today? Or are you so into character you forget and, and somehow it it organically arises?Rick Negron (00:32:10):I try to stay in, in the more organic realm.Michael Jamin (00:32:13):Uhhuh, ,Rick Negron (00:32:14):Because I think that's where the really good stuff is. The stuff that just pops out of you.Michael Jamin (00:32:20):But you can't make that happen. That's the problem. Yeah.Rick Negron (00:32:23):If, if, if I plan somethingMichael Jamin (00:32:26):Mm-Hmm.Rick Negron (00:32:26):, I, I feel like it, it feels fabricated a little bit. Right. And so I, I try not to, but sometimes I'll get a note from, we have a resident director that travels with us, and also sometimes the director or the associate director will show up to whatever city we're in and will watch the show and give us notes and say, you know, in this moment, maybe try this or try that. And so I really pay attention to those notes and I try to implement them, but I try not to I try not to quote unquote fabricate them or, or, or think too much on it. I try to, maybe, maybe the best thing that I can say is I'll tr I'll try on my own four or five different ways to achieve that note. Mm-Hmm. . Okay. I can, I can, I can make it more dangerous in this section if I lean into this word or if I, you know, take a pause or whatever it is. I'll come up with four or five different ways to get the note across and then let whatever which one pops out pops out when it, when I do the performance. So I give myself some choices. So I don't, so I don't get, I don't pigeonhole myself into a specific choice, which then feels fabricated and fake.Michael Jamin (00:33:51):Right. But do you ever get into the part and then n notice, oh, I, I just slipped out of it. I, I'm, I'm, I'm observing myself now. I'm not in the partRick Negron (00:34:00):Happens all the time.Michael Jamin (00:34:02):And what do you do? How do you get back inRick Negron (00:34:04):The words the text will save you for every writer out there. Thank you. Because the text will save you. You have to get back into, into what it is you're saying. When, whenMichael Jamin (00:34:16):You, but the words are in your head that you don't, you're not reading something, they're in your head.Rick Negron (00:34:19):You're in your head, but in your head. I've been doing this so long that I can be in the middle of my performance and going, Hmm. That wasn't good. Right. Like, I'll be criticizing myself while I'm doing it,Michael Jamin (00:34:31):But that's not good. Now you're out of character.Rick Negron (00:34:33):Now I'm out of character. Now I'm in my head. Right. And the first thing that I'll do is I'll, I'll bite something. I'll bite a word or I'll, I'll make a gesture. Or basically I'll snapped my myself out of that.Michael Jamin (00:34:47):Do it.Rick Negron (00:34:48):I guess. I didn't silence my phone.Michael Jamin (00:34:51):That's okay. So,Rick Negron (00:34:52):Interesting enough. That's, that's the resident director of Hamilton just texted me.Michael Jamin (00:34:57):. He can wait. It's not important.Rick Negron (00:34:59):No. She, she, luckily this is she. Yes. Better. Sherry Barber. Amazing director.Michael Jamin (00:35:05):So we that's my next question though. I wanna talk about that. But, so, all right. So you snap so you, you, you get back into it with a physical, something physical, a gesture or something.Rick Negron (00:35:14):Physical or, or, or, or vocal. Yeah. Or some different intention. Yeah. Just mix it up. Right. Mix it up. Yeah. Do something different that, that's gonna get you outta your head.Michael Jamin (00:35:27):Right. I mean, I mean, I would think that we, that way my fear is going up, going up, forgetting, oh, what, what's my line? Line? Oh,Rick Negron (00:35:34):It is, that's every actor's fear. And, and, and if anything keeps me nervous, it's that, it's the fear of, of messing up. But the, and people say, oh, how do you get over being nervous? And I always say, you, how, how do you get to Carnegie Hall? Yeah. Practice, practice, practice. Confidence comes from being, I can sing that song with another song, playing over a loud speaker. That's how well I know that song.Michael Jamin (00:36:04):Really. With another song playing. There'sRick Negron (00:36:05):Another song playing over the loud speaker. And I can sing my song while that song is playing. That's how much in the bones in my cell that song is. See, I just have to, I, I rehearse, rehearse, rehearse, rehearse, rehearse.Michael Jamin (00:36:18):Do you think it's possible to over rehearse?Rick Negron (00:36:21):Yeah.Michael Jamin (00:36:22):Uhhuh. . Yeah.Rick Negron (00:36:24):But I mean, for me, you know, every actor's different. For me, my comfort, what gives me my comfort zone is, and, and gives me confidence, is feeling like I, I know this inside out, left, right. I, I know ev Yeah, I know this. I got this Uhhuh . That's how I getMichael Jamin (00:36:46):There. But, but you don't feel that way in opening night cuz you haven't done it 900Rick Negron (00:36:49):Times. No, no, no. You haven't done it 900 times. So you just, you you, I go back to my yoga and I, I I do some deep breathing mm-hmm. and I try to focus on the intentions of the character. What is he trying to do?Michael Jamin (00:37:05):Do you, do you sometimes kick yourself? Like, do you feel like, oh, I wasn't in the Tonight Show. I was, I tried. I wasn't in it. I wasn't in it. OhRick Negron (00:37:14):Yeah. I walked out, I walk off stage sometimes and go, Ooh, that was terrible. Or whatev, you know, I'm, I'm my worst critic. Right. And sometimes I walk away and go, oh, that was good.Michael Jamin (00:37:26):Right. Because you're justRick Negron (00:37:27):Lost. I don't pat myself on the back as often as I should. Uhhuh , I'm usually more critical of myself. And, you know, and now I try, I try to not beat myself up as much as I used to. I try to be a little kinder to myself, but yeah, I totally walk away sometimes going, oh, that was, that was not your best.Michael Jamin (00:37:46): . And, and so these, these directors, like, what do they, what's their job? Because they didn't direct the show. The show has been choreographed. It's been directed. Now they're just jo they're just there every night to make sure it doesn't go off the rails.Rick Negron (00:37:59):Yeah. PrettyMichael Jamin (00:38:00):Much tune things.Rick Negron (00:38:01):Yeah. And the really good ones, like, like sh like our our resident director Sherry they're there to keep it fresh. And so she's constantly feeding you ideas. Hey, what, what if we do this? What if we do that? How about, how about, you know, and, and that's, she, she's great at bringing new ideas to something that we've been doing for four years,Michael Jamin (00:38:27):But I'm not sure how much I would wanna hear that if I were you. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, oh, I love it. This is what I You love that.Rick Negron (00:38:34):I love it. I love trying new stuff. I love messing about with that pot that I'm creating. Oh, what about, why, why don't you do a lip on, on, on the top? Oh, yeah, yeah. Do it. We'll curl out the lip on the top. I've never done that before. Right. Why don't we do that? You know, I did something a few months ago at the end of the song, the song I famously go, famously I should say the, the king famous famously says, and no, don't change the subject. And he points at somebody in the audience and he gets, he, it's a rare moment where he gets upset. Uhhuh . And that's, and, and if you've seen the Disney Plus, Jonathan Gruff famously just spits all over the place. It just is, it's, it's an explosion of saliva. And it's, it's a brilliant moment. I think. I think his take on the king is, is wonderful and he sings it so well. And and I usually point, they want you to usually point in sort of the same area of the, you can point anywhere, but they, they usually take point over here. And I always point over there, and one night, man, this is maybe about four or five months ago, one night at the end of the song, I went, I went,Michael Jamin (00:39:45):I'm watching youRick Negron (00:39:46):Uhhuh . Like, I pointed to my eyes and I pointed to that person who I had pointed to earlier in the song. And no, don't change the subject as if that's my one nemesis in the room. And I'm just saying, I'm watching you . And it got such a reaction, right. That I kept it, it's been my new little bit until I, until I decide I don't want to, or until, you know, the associate director walks in and goes, you know what? I don't like that thing that you do at the end, cut it. And I'm like, okay, it's gone. Right. Well, think of something else. You know, unless there, there's always, there's always something right. That I can think of. And that's, that's the fun part that I can always improve it, I can always make it better. I can always have fun with it.Michael Jamin (00:40:29):Hey, it's Michael Jamin. If you like my videos and you want me to email them to you for free, join my watch list. Every Friday I send out my top three videos. These are for writers, actors, creative types. You could unsubscribe whenever you want. I'm not gonna spam you and it's absolutely free. Just go to michaeljamin.com/watchlist.Michael Jamin (00:40:53):I'm surprised you, I mean, I, I would wa I'm curious like, but you allowing yourself to watch, you know, Jonathan Grots version as opposed, you know, is that, are you, do you, you know, what's that like, you know, cause character yoursRick Negron (00:41:08):Now. Yeah. I saw him do it originally on Broadway when I saw the show in previews. And then of course I saw him do the Disney Plus version. And then when we were in rehearsals in 2018 for our company, we were the third national tour to go out when we were in rehearsals, they said, oh, you you know, you can go stand back in the, at the back of the house at the Richard Rogers and watch the Broadway company. And at that point, the king was Ian I'm forgetting Ian's last name, but he's, I think he's still the king right now. He's been there for a long time. He's brilliant. Uhhuh as the king. And I watched him play the King while I'm in rehearsals for the King. Right. And for me, I wish I could see all the kings really? Because really they all do something different. And, and you, and, and the stuff that's really good. You wanna steal it, man. You wanna, but can you, I mean, love that,Michael Jamin (00:42:00):But can youRick Negron (00:42:00):Take it from the best baby steal from theMichael Jamin (00:42:02):Best stuff from the best.Rick Negron (00:42:04):Interesting. Yes. I mean, you gotta make it your own. You can't do the exact same thing. Right. But, but it, for me, it feeds me as an actor. I'm like, oh, what a cool idea. I should, I can do a version of that or Right. Or so. Oh, that makes me think of something else. You know, I, I I, yeah. I I love it. DoMichael Jamin (00:42:20):You get together and talk with the other kings at all? Yeah.Rick Negron (00:42:23):I've met the king that's on on Zoom, actually. I haven't met him in person, but the guy Peter Matthews who, who does the Angelica tour and he's been doing it for a while. Most of the Kings. It's a, it's a nice gig. So yeah, you stick around right. As long as you, you know, want to, or as long as they'll have you. Right. And Hamilton's been really great about, you know, letting us stay. But Peter Peter's really a funny guy and I haven't gotten to see his king because obviously I'm doing it at another part of the country while he's doing it. But I would love to see him play the King. Really. yeah. And Rory O'Malley, who played it here in la, he did the first national, he I think Tony Winter for book of Mormon. Fantastic guy. I met him in San Francisco when he came to see our company. I'd love to see his cane cuz he's a great singer and, you know, everybody's got their, their their take on him. And I, I find it fascinating to see what somebody does with, with this character.Michael Jamin (00:43:25):Right. Cuz there's so much, there's so much. Yeah. That's so much how much constantly reinvented fun,Rick Negron (00:43:29):Fun role and,Michael Jamin (00:43:30):But by still, but you still gotta remain true to what the words are and what the intention of the words. But it still can be interpreted while still being true to thoseRick Negron (00:43:38):Words. Which, which is the beauty of, of, of, of Hamilton and, and I give a lot of credit to the creative team, is that yes, you have to sing the words and sing the melody, but you get a lot of creative license to, to make it your own Uhhuh . And so if you see our company of Hamilton and then you see the Broadway company of Hamilton, it's almost like two different shows. Right. It's the same show. But because you have different actors in those roles, it's pretty remarkable the difference in the companies.Michael Jamin (00:44:10):And tell me a little bit more about some of the other Broadway and traveling, because you've had such a resume, man, such a resume.Rick Negron (00:44:17):. Well, you know, I, I started back in the eighties as a, as a Chorus Boy and, and doing some really cool shows. Man La Mancha, the Goodbye Girl, theMichael Jamin (00:44:27):GoodbyeRick Negron (00:44:27):Girl leader of the Pack. I, I did, I did In The Heights on Broadway Right. For a couple of years. That's when I, I actually did a workshop of In the Heights in 2005 with Li Manuel Miranda and the whole gang, and I got to meet them back then. So they've been good loyal friends since then. Yeah. And, and have kept me employed for many years. I hand, you know, hats off to them . Oh, I do have hair by the way, but it was kinda messy. So I put on my, my hat. YouMichael Jamin (00:44:58):Could have worn your wig, your powdered wigRick Negron (00:45:01):. Oh yeah. IMichael Jamin (00:45:02):Used to wear, Hey, I'm always in characterRick Negron (00:45:04):. Yeah, A actually I have I'm, I have a few weeks off right now, which is why I'm home in la Right. Because we just did Hawaii and, and the show had to pack up and, and be put on the ship to come back to the us So they shipped, the show changed and that's how we, how it got to Puerto Rico too, which is why it makes it kind of difficult to send those shows to the, the Islandss because they have to ship it.Michael Jamin (00:45:29):But even still, how long does it take to set up for them to build, you know, build the set?Rick Negron (00:45:36):Well the shipping of it took a, takes about two weeks.Michael Jamin (00:45:40):All right. But once you're,Rick Negron (00:45:41):But then once it all gets there, our crew can, can put the set up in day and a half.Michael Jamin (00:45:47):Wow. Okay.Rick Negron (00:45:48):It's, it's like, it's all been carefully crafted. It's like Lincoln Logs, everything fits together, butMichael Jamin (00:45:54):Stages are different sizes. That's what I don't understand.Rick Negron (00:45:57):Well, they ahead of time, the, the production management and, and, and, and company management, they sit together and they go, okay, these are the cities that we're doing, which is the smallest theater we're in Uhhuh , that, those are our dimensions. We can't, we can't get bigger than that.Michael Jamin (00:46:15):But you can put a smaller on a bigger, on a stage, you can put a small,Rick Negron (00:46:19):Yeah, yeah. And the show, I mean, the show was made for the Richard Rogers, which is a pretty small theater. I mean, it's an old 1920s Broadway theater, Uhhuh , that seats about 1300. So it's pretty small. And the stage backstage is kind of small too. So most of the theaters that we do on, that we go to on the road are much bigger than the Richer Rogers. Okay. So they just, you know, they just do black baffling on the sides and just make it more of a letter box. And it works. It works. As long as we're not in a place that's smaller than our set. And some shows have what they call a jump set, which means that while we're in one city, we have a, a second set that goes to the next city and gets built. And so that we close in, in Boise on a Sunday and we open in Salt Lake City on a, on a Tuesday, you know, but let's say one day.Michael Jamin (00:47:13):But let's say that you're doing a dance number and the stage is this big and your's, the dancer, you know. Okay. Six pace steps to get my next mark on a bigger stage. It's, isn't it more steps or No,Rick Negron (00:47:23):No, no, because you're, you're, regardless of the size of the stage you are set. It remains the same.Michael Jamin (00:47:30):Okay. So no one will go out of that.Rick Negron (00:47:32):Yeah, no. Yeah. We'll, we'll we'll never stretch it. Right. The set itself never gets stretched. If anything, the, the theater will come in with, with black you know what the, what they call the legs, those are, you know, a break a leg comes fromMichael Jamin (00:47:48):No,Rick Negron (00:47:48):Literally they, you know, break a leg is good luck. But it literally means the legs are those black drapes that come down in the front and also in each wing.Michael Jamin (00:47:59):Okay. SoRick Negron (00:47:59):When you, when you, when you go on stage, sometimes you have to move that drapery to get on stage or to, if you're gonna go in front of the, the, the in front of the curtain, you, you, you move it with your arm, you break the leg.Michael Jamin (00:48:15):So you're not, so you're not literally break. Okay. So you're,Rick Negron (00:48:18):You're not literally breaking the leg, you're not breaking anything. Parting, parting the drapery to go on stage.Michael Jamin (00:48:23):Oh. So this is very interesting. This is gonna be, yeah.Rick Negron (00:48:25):Yeah. It's a little theater trivia for Yeah. The, the folks out there.Michael Jamin (00:48:30):Fascinating. Now. Okay, so on a regular day, you go to a town, your new, your your new city or whatever, and they give you a per diem to Yeah. Goodbye lunch and get out apartmentRick Negron (00:48:42):Diem. The union sets a weekly per diem. And that is for you to spend as you wish. Uhhuh, . And then also company management way ahead of time will say we have three or four different hotels that we've negotiated a special deal for and choose which one you want to stay in. And these are the prices and these are the amenities and people choose from that list of hotels. But a lot of people nowadays are doing Airbnb, especially on a tour where you sit in a city for four weeks, five weeks, six weeks. The shortest stays we've ever had have been two weeks. But we've, we've done six weeks. And so a lot of people do Airbnbs cuz you have a kitchen and you have a washer dryer and more, you know. But isMichael Jamin (00:49:26):It, is staying in a hotel more fun? Is that dorm living, is that more fun for the cast?Rick Negron (00:49:31):Some, no, I don't think it's more fun for them. Some stay in the hotel cuz it'll be right next to the theater. And that's convenient. Yeah. Especially if we are in Denver and it's seven degrees outside. Being, you know, li living right near the theater is really cool when it's, when the weather's bad. But most people, a lot of people nowadays, they're getting Airbnbs and they're rooming together. So three or four people can get a really cool house.Michael Jamin (00:49:57):But I'm picturing Rick Negron (00:50:00):And, and they save money because they're rooming together. Right. So, you know, the rent, their ability to pay rent, I mean now they can use their per diem to live on, not just for their place to stay. They canMichael Jamin (00:50:12):Have you shared, have you shared apartments or No. Does the king, does the king have his own place now?Rick Negron (00:50:16):, I'm too old to have roommates. You're tooMichael Jamin (00:50:18):That crap.Rick Negron (00:50:18):I had roommates in my twenties and thirties. I'm done. But the only roommate I have is my wife. And CauseMichael Jamin (00:50:24):You're right.Rick Negron (00:50:24):But she's not really my roommate. SoMichael Jamin (00:50:26):My like, my naive opinion of what it must be like is like in high school when you're in the play it's like, you know, or even at a high school, you know, community, you are like, Hey, it's the, we're all the, it's the group, we're the gang, we're doing everything together. But once you become a pro, that's not the way it is. Huh? It's not likeRick Negron (00:50:45):It is at first it is, it's the honeymoon phaseMichael Jamin (00:50:49):Real. Okay. Where you're like hanging out togetherRick Negron (00:50:51):Where we all just meet and Oh, I know that person. We did a show together a long time ago. And so we become a little bit of a clique and then the, the cliques start happening early on. But we're one big happy family. Right. And we have opening night parties and you know, and all that occurs early on. But then the clicks really start creating Right. You know, the, the peop certain people start to hang out together. We had the, an our, our company's called an Peggy cuz each separate tour has a different name. There's the Angelica tour, the Philip Tour. These are characters in the show. Right. And Peggy is the third Skylar sister. So we became the third company. So we are called the An Peggy tour and we're, and there's a group of us we're called the, an Peggy Alpine Club. And literally, literally a bunch of us who like to hike and, and do outdoorsy stuff. We went snowboarding and skiing a lot in the winter. We, a lot of us got scuba cert certified for our Hawaii stay. Wow. And we've done incredible hikes all over the place. So that's our little clique. But also, you know, people that have, are married and right on tour together or have ki there's a few people that have kids on tour. They get together a lot.Michael Jamin (00:52:07):So and they bring their fam, they bring their kids on onto tour with them.Rick Negron (00:52:10):Yes. There's some people that do that. Yes. But some, some, someMichael Jamin (00:52:16):Like little kids are like high school age. Like you can't be like a high school-aged kid.Rick Negron (00:52:20):No. Most, most of 'em have young kids. You gotta understand. I, I'm working with a bunch of 20 and 30 year olds. Right. And I'm the oldest guy by far in, in, in, in, in the, in the company.Michael Jamin (00:52:30):What's that like being the oldest guy in the company?Rick Negron (00:52:33):Oh, I love it. Love. I used to be the youngest guy then I was, you know, in the same age as everybody. I love it because I as a king too. I, I have plenty of time to sort of mentor everybody. Yeah. And so I've become a little bit of, I, I'm the cheerleader. I check in on everyone and say, how you doing? I'm, I used to be a ma massage, massage therapist. So a anytime peop people are having issues. I, I'm close friends with our, our physical therapist that tours with us. So we work on people sometimes together in tandem.Michael Jamin (00:53:03):What is it they're worried? What is it they want mentoring at the, the career strategy? Like what, youRick Negron (00:53:08):Know, that this career strategy, sometimes it's just dealing with personalities in theater sometimes there's some, some headbutting. Um-Huh. sometimes people are just having problems with a, a particular, an understudies having a problem with a new character that they're understudying or, you know, there's issues on stage with somebody who doesn't quite know where they're supposed to stand at a certain point. Right. And all that is internal stuff that should be worked out with the dance captains and the stage management and, and the resident director. But you know, unfortunately, actors, you know, we have huge egos and, and they're also very fragile egos. And so there's a, a, a bit of nuance involved and people get their, their panties in a twist. And I'm, I'm usually the guy that comes around and, and talks people off the ledge sometimes. AndMichael Jamin (00:54:02):I would imagine we be very hard even, especially for the new guy or the new woman coming in, youRick Negron (00:54:06):Know? Yeah. And I, I I, I, I tend to be the welcome wagon too. Right. You're the new ones. Come on, I'm the king. You know, I'll show you the ropes.Michael Jamin (00:54:13):Wow.Rick Negron (00:54:14):So, so that's, I, I like taking that mantle, not just because I'm the king, but also because I'm sort of the senior member of the Right. And I've been around the block and people have asked me, you know, I'm sick and tired of show business. I want to do something else. And I'm like, you know, that's, I hear that I've, I've had that conversation many, many times in my career.Michael Jamin (00:54:34):Interesting. So why, yeah. I would think, see, right, you've made the touring company of Hamilton, it's pretty much the peak, you know, like, you know, forRick Negron (00:54:41):A lot of 'em want to do Broadway. So they're, you know, they're still focused on doing that Broadway show. And some of them have done Broadway, have done the tour, and, you know, they wanna settle down and meet somebody and have a Right.Michael Jamin (00:54:53):So they want to, is that, is that what the problem is? They, you know, they're done with the business. What, what's the problem?Rick Negron (00:55:00):Well, I mean, you know, you, we've got the new kids who are just starting out who wanna know about, you know, how do I get my, my foot in Broadway? You know, and there's those kids, and then they're the ones that have been around for a while who wanna maybe transition out of, out of the business and, and want some there was one girl who was interested in massage therapy. Oh, wow. And I said, you wanna become ao? Okay. Well, this is what you need to do. And matter of fact the union has something called what is it called? Career Transition for Dancers, which is a, a, a program where you can get grants to do some further education. So if you wanna learn how to be a massage coach, wow. Get a grant through the union. And, you know, I know some of this stuff so I can impart some of that knowledge. And for the young kids who, you know, I wanna get on Broadway, I'm like, okay, well, to get on Broadway, you have to be in New York. And while you're on tour, you know, can't do that. It's hard to get into that audition for that Broadway show. ButMichael Jamin (00:55:57):Are you still in those circles? I mean, it seems like you, I don't know. It seems like you must know. I don't know. You're, I, I guess I'm completely wrong. If you were you know, a dancer on the touring company, Hamilton seems like it wouldn't be that hard to, to find out about an audition on Broadway. And certainly wouldn't be that hard to get a job, because you're obviously really good.Rick Negron (00:56:18):Yeah. and we've had a few people leave our tour to go do a Broadway, Broadway show. I mean, actually, we just lost like two or three people to, one Girl is doing Bad Cinderella. She left our show to Do Bad Cinderella, which is a new Broadway show, a new Andrew League Webber show. Mm-Hmm. . Another guy just left our show to do the, the Candor Nbb, New York, New York that's opening on Broadway soon. So that does happen luckily with the advent of auditioning remotely via video that's helped things out a lot nowadays, so that if you're in Portland on tour, you can send in an audition via video for something back in New York.Michael Jamin (00:57:02):Even dancing. You can, like, you pull the camera back and you do some dance steps. I mean,Rick Negron (00:57:06):Is that what you do? Yeah. Or sing a song or, or, or, or read a scene. Okay. depending on what's needed. And sometimes you, you are able to take a personal day and fly back to New York and audition for something. Right? Yeah. Michael Jamin (00:57:23):Cause I would think, and I, I don't know. Obviously, I don't know it, I would think that if you're in Ham, the touring company of Hamilton, you're practically on Broadway and it's like, it's almost the same circles, except this is where the job is, you know?Rick Negron (00:57:34):True. But if you've been on tour for a year, you'd like to settle down and stop living out of a suitcase. I It'sMichael Jamin (00:57:39):Hard to be on the road.Rick Negron (00:57:40):Yeah. Or you've been doing Hamilton for a while and you just wanna do something different. Yeah. There's those, those kids, you know, they're hungry, they wanna do different stuff. Yeah. They don't wanna be on tour on Hamilton for four years like I have, but I've done a lot of stuff andMichael Jamin (00:57:53):Yeah. What, let's talk about what other, what, yeah, let's talk about some other, we, we, I think we got off track of your other Broadway shows and, and Off Broadway and not touring shows, rather.Rick Negron (00:58:01):Well, you know, I started, I started out young in the biz at 10 cuz my mom was a drama teacher. And then I sort of worked my way through community theater and children's theater and all that. And, and then I was a concert dancer in college and studied for who? Well, I, in college I studied modern dance in, in ballet. But when I got outta college, I, I was an

It's the Great Depression and we're meeting our new cast of friends. It's very dusty, possibly magical, kind of fun, and a bit depressing. Produced by Kristen Riley and Daive Reed Edited by Daive Reed Thanks for being here and if you enjoyed the episode, please rate, review, and subscribe. Or, even easier, tell people about us! It really helps us out.  Find us on Twitter and Instagram @CastFiles We also auto-post on YouTube, if that's your streaming service of choice, or if you like closed captions.  And finally, email us at TheRotatingCastFiles@gmail.com   SHOW NOTES   Set Up: In the midst of the Dust Bowl, a traveling carnival roams from town to town scratching out a living. And a Methodist minister regains his faith in the lord after seeing amazing visions. Trigger Warnings: Sexual assault, human death, animal cruelty and death, child exploitation.   Opening Lines: Samson: Before the beginning, after the great war between Heaven and Hell, God created the Earth, and gave dominion over it to the crafty ape he called man. And to each generation, there was born a creature of light and a creature of darkness. And great armies clashed by night in the ancient war between good and evil. There was magic then, nobility, and unimaginable cruelty. And so it was. Until the day that a false sun exploded over Trinity, and man traded away wonder for reason.   Summary: Nightmare sequence. In Ben's opening dream, we see, various:Scudder being chased by the Usher through a cornfield Scudder retreating from Bruno the bear in World War 1 a hand (possibly Ben's or Boffo's) holding a Templar ring (probably Boffo's) bearing the motto "In Hoc Signo Vinces" ("By this sign you shall conquer" in Latin) Scudder, in a black tuxedo, and Belyakov face each other in the diner Sofie turning over the Magician during Ben's tarot reading the funeral procession in Tipton Ruthie with a snake during one of her acts Scudder popping his top hat a dead lamb a photo of the Babylon mining crew, focusing in on Scudder's picture Apollonia's rape by the Tattooed Man a picture of Felix's gun on a pillow next to four bullets a picture of Lobster Girl from Gunderson Ben wakes up from a dream with no arms or legs more scenes from the trench during World War 1, featuring Belyakov aiming at Scudder a shot of Dora Mae's funeral On a barren farm in the middle of a dust storm a young man, Ben Hawkins, watches over his dying mother. He reaches for her when she has a coughing fit and she pulls away, disgusted. "Don't touch me," she says before dying.  It's fine. This probably won't impact the rest of his life.  Outside, a group of trucks rolls down the highway. They stop to find Hawkins digging in the rock-hard ground with a man on a bulldozer shouting at him.  Samson, the co-manager of a traveling carnival, bets his right-hand man, Jonesy, that the man on the bulldozer "squashes" Hawkin's meager resistance. Jonesy takes the bet and gets out of the truck to help.  He realizes that Hawkins is trying to bury his mother and, after the bulldozer guy comes over to see what's up and finds out, Jonesy asks if he has shovels and has the carnival roustabouts help. The eclectic troupe, including conjoined twins, a giant, and a bearded lady, hold a small burial service for the deceased.  The bulldozer man waits for the burial and funeral to complete, which is good of him, then destroys the house.  As Samson and the gang try to decide what to do with Hawkins, a car is approaching and Ben collapses, so Ruthie has Gabriel carry Ben. In Mintern, California, Brother Justin Crowe delivers a sermon on the devil. An older woman, Eleanor, is listening to the sermon and as the plate is passed she reaches in and makes eye contact with the plate holder, to distract him. She takes money from the plate, but Iris, Crowe's sister, sees her. As Eleanor tries to leave during a song Iris stops her. Iris is terrifying.  Justin talks to Eleanor in his home after the service, Iris leaves the room and Eleanor tries to talk herself out of the situation. Justin confronts her and suddenly she starts coughing up gold coins. Brother Justin takes it as a sign from god and asks her to pray with him. In the commentary, they say how the original was more in control of the situation and essentially made this happen. I appreciate that they tempered him and made him more complex to start, so he has a place to go. If he started badly, where would we go? It's very dramatic and the coins disappear, but the whole scene is played as though it occurred to both of them, not just as a vision from Brother Justin. Iris had left the room, so did not witness this.  On the road, Samson and Jonesy are listening to the radio, we're driving by families and groups on the side of the road. It's showing a swath of the population during this time period. We get a glimpse of the folks in the town with the shot from the kids' room. Bunk beds and both kids scurry to the window to watch the carnival arrive in the night. They're so excited.  Ben is passed out in Lila, the bearded lady, and Professor Lodz's truck. I love the hooka. It feels so fancy. The two are discussing their strange passenger and Lila asks Lodz, the carnival's mentalist, to tell her what Hawkins is dreaming about.  I love the dynamic of these two immediately. It's obvious they're comfortable together, have a teasing relationship, and like to push one another. I'm sure it will all stay exactly this way.  Lodz gives in and touches Ben's forehead. He starts to convulse and sees strange flashes of two men, one in a tuxedo and the other in a military uniform, in a restaurant, a man with a huge tree tattooed on his chest in a cornfield, what looks like WWI, and a bear with a tiny hat.  Lila pulls Lodz away and he collapses after whispering, "Scudder." In the morning Ben meets the odd cast of characters and tries to hightail it back to town. We get to see the carnival being set up. In the commentary, they discuss how difficult it was to shoot these scenes because we have to imagine which portion or percentage of the carnival is set up at that point in time.  We meet Sofie and Apollonia in a quick scene. We know Sofie is a tarot reader and her mother appears catatonic, however, they can communicate, somehow. Sofie speaks aloud, whether for our benefit or because that's how it works, but Appolonia doesn't speak aloud. She will throw tarot cards if she's frustrated.  On Ben's way out of the trailer, he wraps himself in a flowery robe (they'd undressed and washed his clothes while he was out). He gets his clothes and leaves the carnival. Sofie catches up with him on the road, but he's not exactly thrilled to be there. He's rude so she drives off to town. This next scene is really sad, with the tent city and the grieving woman. It's set up in a way that he gets through to the grieving woman but we don't know if it's magical or not. This scene is so heartbreaking.  Sofie continues on to town. Ben walks up to the gas station and notices Sophie's vehicle. He hears screaming from inside and rushes in to find two men trying to rape Sofie. He helps attack her attackers and they escape going back to camp.  Jonesy sees them arrive, Sofie's torn clothes and fast exit from the vehicle make it obvious what happened, but not who instigated it. Jonesy doesn't come off well here, but Sofie is more aware of the world they live in than Jonesy is.  Meanwhile, Samson tries to convince Ben to stay on with the carnival. Samson is amazing in this scene. Ben walks off. We see him come back though and Samson continues to chat him up while Ben eats.  That night Ben walks the carnival, now in full brilliance, and sees all the happiness it brings. We see hand-painted banners, a lighted midway, rides, and acts. He also sees Jonesy being super sweet with the girl in the little red wagon.  Next, he wanders to the coochie show. The commenters had a field day talking about adding this family. After the cooch show, Ben realizes there's also sex work involved and is scandalized! Sofie brings Ben his jacket, and they chat. Ben says he's not a “carnie”.  Another nightmare. Foreshadowing.  Back in California, Brother Justin has a similar nightmare to Ben's and goes for a walk.  He walks through town, then through a migrant camp. He arrives in from Mr. Chin's. Neon lights and all! He's approached by a woman enticing him to go inside, but he grabs her and she slaps him away.  It starts to snow and then rain blood.  As he watches the sign it burns out except for a small cross in the middle. He drops to his knees and weeps. The snow and blood are gone, and the street in is present-day with people milling around.  The next morning Ben helps pack up the carnival and lets Sofie read his cards.  She decides to read his past and as she turns the cards Ben has flashbacks of his mother.  In his flashback, she is screaming at a younger version of himself for digging up a dead cat and when she pulls it from him it springs to life. Horrified she says he has been marked by the devil. Later when she is dying he tries to touch her, to heal her, and she shrinks away, grabbing a cross.  Sofie sees that Ben is visibly distraught and she asks what he sees, she can't see his visions - only what the cards indicate. Or actually, what the cards and her mother say to her.  He's flashing back to his childhood when he's holding a kitten and his mother tries to take it from him. Rightly, as far as she knows since the kitten had been buried for 3 days at that point. She takes it from him, but it's not dead anymore. It ends badly.  He tells Sofie he doesn't see anything and tells her to continue.  She turns the last card and tells him that he has a great gift that he has kept secret, squandered. She asks what he is hiding and he stammers "nothing" and runs away. He comes to a neighboring field of crops and weeps. A little girl asks why he is crying and he looks up to find a disabled girl, who we saw earlier enjoying the carnival. She says her mother says the carnival folk is marked. Ben says they're just people.  He asks if it hurts, meaning her legs, and she says yes. Samson hollers at him to ask if he's coming along. Ben ignores him and Samson says, whatever let's go.  Ben leans down and touches the little girl's legs. As he concentrates the field around them starts to shrink and die.  He runs off towards the carnival as it leaves and jumps in the last truck. The little girl stands up and runs toward her house, the field around her is dying as she goes. Miracles ain't free, as the commenters say.  As much as Ben was trying to help, during the dust bowl and Great Depression, the family probably would've been better off with that food. We've seen this girl a few times in this episode and have no reason to believe she was unhappy, or really worse off than anyone else. 

When we find something that connects us, those things that separate us can become unimportant.Today's featured award-winning author is a wife, mother, grandmother, and fellow podcast host, Teri M. Brown. Teri and I talk about her book, “An Enemy Like Me: A German-American Family's Joys and Sufferings During WWII”, why we need to focus more on the commonalities that we share as people, and more!! Key Things You'll Learn:What Teri wishes that she had done differently with her first book launchWhat skills has Teri been adding to her skillset since publishing her last novelWhat to expect from her new book ad the inspiration behind itThe power of finding commonality with others Teri's Site: https://www.terimbrown.com/Teri's Books: https://www.amazon.com/Teri-M-Brown/e/B09NZKWTGG/ref=aufs_dp_fta_dsk The opening track is titled “Check It Out” by Mountaineer from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):https://uppbeat.io/t/mountaineer/check-it-outLicense code: AR6DFPGVXQ9Q1SSY Please support today's podcast to keep this content coming! CashApp: $DomBrightmonDonate on PayPal: @DBrightmonBuy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/dombrightmonGet Going North T-Shirts, Stickers, and More: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/dom-brightmon You May Also Like… Ep. 555 – “Sunflowers Beneath the Snow” with Teri Brown (@TeriMBrown1): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-555-sunflowers-beneath-the-snow-with-teri-brown-terimbrown1/ #Bonus Ep. – “Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea” with Andre Lewis Carter: https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/bonus-ep-between-the-devil-and-the-deep-blue-sea-with-andre-lewis-carter/ #Bonus Ep. – “From Prizewinning Dystopian Thrillers to Prizewinning Historical Fiction” with Alice McVeigh (@astmcveigh1): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/bonus-ep-from-prizewinning-dystopian-thrillers-to-prizewinning-historical-fiction-with-alice-mcveigh-astmcveigh1/ #Bonus Ep. – “Random Acts of Awesome Historical Fiction” with J. Lynn Else (@JLynnElseAuthor): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/bonus-ep-random-acts-of-awesome-historical-fiction-with-j-lynn-else-jlynnelseauthor/ Ep. 340 – “A Single Light” with Tosca Lee (@ToscaLee): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-340-a-single-light-with-tosca-lee-toscalee/ Ep. 531 – “Where the Stork Flies” with Linda Wisniewski (@Lindawis): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-531-where-the-stork-flies-with-linda-wisniewski-lindawis/ #LocalAuthor Bonus Ep. – “The Wise Man” with Michele Chynoweth (@AuthorMichele): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/localauthor-bonus-ep-the-wise-man-with-michele-chynoweth-authormichele/ Ep. 368.5 – “Hollystone Mysteries” with W.L. Hawkin (@ladyhawke1003): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-3685-hollystone-mysteries-with-wl-hawkin-ladyhawke1003/ Ep. 593 – “The Perfect Neighborhood” with Liz Alterman (@LizAlterman): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-593-the-perfect-neighborhood-with-liz-alterman-lizalterman/ Ep. 568 – “The Multi-Hyphen Mystery Author Life” with Diane Bator (@bator_l): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-568-the-multi-hyphen-mystery-author-life-with-diane-bator-bator_l/ Ep. 351 – “The Gift Legacy” with JP McLean (@jpmcleanauthor): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-351-the-gift-legacy-with-jp-mclean-jpmcleanauthor/ Ep. 311 – “Works of Urban Mythopoeia” with Cat Rambo (@Catrambo): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-311-works-of-urban-mythopoeia-with-cat-rambo-catrambo/

The Spin Chagrin, a concept that finds Frank having to watch a movie he's never seen before based on the random spin of a wheel filled with off-the-wall genres, continues into a new year. In this episode, Frank's category was "Hawkin' Stealth," and he went straight for the jugular by watching the 2005 sci-fi action movie aptly titled Stealth, starring Jamie Foxx, Jessica Biel, and Josh Lucas.

Today we are joined by our very own host, Thomas Newman, as he breaks down some of the most impactful moments of the 2022 podcast season.   Thomas will be joined by Eric Renaghan, Dr. David Dodick, Boyd Epley, Hewitt Tomlin, Beau Bartone, Adam Petway, Joe Kenn, Dr. William Kraemer, Guy Hornsby, Pat Dixon, and Val Prisecaru as we look back on The Hawkin Podcasts best moments of 2022. Sit back, relax and take a deep dive with us back through the year...   Time Stamps for Today's Episode: 00:00:09 Introduction to Today's Episode 00:01:49 Eric Renaghan's Episode on Merit-Based Training 00:09:59 Dr. David Dodick's Episode on Concussion Testing & Management 00:15:12 Boyd Epley's Episode on The Epley Advantage Performance Index 00:21:19 Hewitt Tomlin's Episode on Never Sacrificing Quality for Quantity 00:25:03 Beau Bartone's Episode on Auditing and Individualization 00:30:56 Adam Petway's Episode on Asking the Question First 00:33:58 Joe Kenn's Episode on Cluster Training 00:38:27 Dr. William Kraemer's Episode on Knowing Your Physiology 00:47:49 Guy Hornsby's Episode on Proper Set-up of the Isometric Mid-Thigh Pull 00:56:46 Pat Dixon's Episode on Recovery Tools and the Use of Collagen 01:02:16 Val Prisecaru's Episode on LifeWave Phototherapy Patches 01:08:52 Closing Remarks From Thomas Newman Mentioned notes, papers, and research: Epley Advantage Strength Index Teambuildr Big House Power Collagen and Vitamin C Supplementation Increases Lower Limb Rate of Force Development Using the Isometric Mid-Thigh Pull in the Monitoring of Weightlifters: 25+ Years of Experience LifeWave: Phototherapy Patches Inventor LifeWave: Phototherapy Patches Patents LifeWave   Hawkin Dynamics is an industry leader in force plates, education, and support. Check out www.HawkinDynamics.com to learn more, or request a hassle-free quote to see what the HD System costs here.

It is Christmas Eve 1875 and Hawkin turns to the Dark. Will hasn't a moment to lose and goes back to his own time to find the Third Sign. His family sing carols, oblivious to danger, and Will is able to protect them with a spell before The Rider can strike. But at home on Christmas morning there is a knock at the door. Listen on headphones for 3D immersive sound. #TheDarkIsRising Will Stanton: Noah Alexander John Smith/Paul Stanton/Mr Beaumont: Thomas Arnold Bus Conductor/Jamaican Old One/James Stanton: Danny Bailey Stephen Stanton: Simon Bubb Mrs Stanton/Mrs Pettigrew/Dr Armstrong: Amanda Hadingue The Walker/Hawkin: Toby Jones Narrator: Simon McBurney The Rider/Mr Mithothin/Mr Stanton/Farmer Dawson: Tim McMullan Merriman: Paul Rhys Maggie Barnes/Mary Stanton: Natasha Stone The Lady/Miss Greythorne: Harriet Walter Herne: Miles Yekinni The chorister: Vinay Singh Radio announcer: Samuel West Soundscape design: Gareth Fry Music: Josh Sneesby Original songs by Johnny Flynn, Luisa Gerstein and Héloïse Tunstall-Behrens Adapted for audio by Robert Macfarlane and Simon McBurney Dramaturg: James Yeatman Director: Simon McBurney Producers: Catherine Bailey and Tim Bell A Complicité and Catherine Bailey Production for BBC World Service Commissioned by Simon Pitts

It is Christmas Eve and Will has been transported to a different time, 1875. Hawkin risks his life to break a spell and free a tome of ancient knowledge. The book speaks of hidden things - of real magic, of rocks and trees and stars. Listen on headphones for 3D immersive sound. #TheDarkIsRising Will Stanton: Noah Alexander John Smith/Paul Stanton/Mr Beaumont: Thomas Arnold Bus Conductor/Jamaican Old One/James Stanton: Danny Bailey Stephen Stanton: Simon Bubb Mrs Stanton/Mrs Pettigrew/Dr Armstrong: Amanda Hadingue The Walker/Hawkin: Toby Jones Narrator: Simon McBurney The Rider/Mr Mithothin/Mr Stanton/Farmer Dawson: Tim McMullan Merriman: Paul Rhys Maggie Barnes/Mary Stanton: Natasha Stone The Lady/Miss Greythorne: Harriet Walter Herne: Miles Yekinni The chorister: Vinay Singh Radio announcer: Samuel West Soundscape design: Gareth Fry Music: Josh Sneesby Original songs by Johnny Flynn, Luisa Gerstein and Héloïse Tunstall-Behrens Adapted for audio by Robert Macfarlane and Simon McBurney Dramaturg: James Yeatman Director: Simon McBurney Producers: Catherine Bailey and Tim Bell A Complicité and Catherine Bailey Production for BBC World Service Commissioned by Simon Pitts

“Let your nerd flag fly.” - J. Lynn ElseToday's bonus featured award-winning author is a bibliophile, tea sipper, book reviewer, and proud nerdy mom, J. Lynn Else. Lynn and I had a fun chat about her books, the benefits of being a hybrid author, and tons more!! Key Things You'll Learn:What inspired her to write and publish booksHow she views negative reviews as a writerHer experience with self-publishing her book as well as publishing her book traditionally J. Lynn's Site: https://www.teasippinnerdymom.com/J. Lynn's Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B00KVPS8QM/allbooks?ingress=0&visitId=9758425c-39bd-4693-8081-5ade1f151b26 The opening track of this episode is titled “Violet” by MadXRuler. Click the following link to hear the full track and support the artist. https://madxruler.bandcamp.com/track/violet Please support today's podcast to keep this content coming! CashApp: $DomBrightmonDonate on PayPal: @DBrightmonBuy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/dombrightmonGet Going North T-Shirts, Stickers, and More: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/dom-brightmon You May Also Like… Ep. 340 – “A Single Light” with Tosca Lee (@ToscaLee): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-340-a-single-light-with-tosca-lee-toscalee/ Ep. 410 – “Research Scientist Turned Urban Fantasy Author” with Kristi Charish (@kristicharish): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-410-research-scientist-turned-urban-fantasy-author-with-kristi-charish-kristicharish/ Ep. 568 – “The Multi-Hyphen Mystery Author Life” with Diane Bator (@bator_l): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-568-the-multi-hyphen-mystery-author-life-with-diane-bator-bator_l/ Ep. 368.5 – “Hollystone Mysteries” with W.L. Hawkin (@ladyhawke1003): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-3685-hollystone-mysteries-with-wl-hawkin-ladyhawke1003/ Ep. 330 – “A Long Way from Ordinary” with Ann Charles (@AnnWCharles): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-330-a-long-way-from-ordinary-with-ann-charles-annwcharles/ #Bonus Ep. – “Whiskers Abroad” with Carrie Carter: https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/bonus-ep-whiskers-abroad-with-carrie-carter/ Ep. 598 – “An Awakening” with Shiva Kumar (@shivaarc1242): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-598-an-awakening-with-shiva-kumar-shivaarc1242/ Ep. 311 – “Works of Urban Mythopoeia” with Cat Rambo (@Catrambo): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-311-works-of-urban-mythopoeia-with-cat-rambo-catrambo/ Ep. 555 – “Sunflowers Beneath the Snow” with Teri Brown (@TeriMBrown1): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-555-sunflowers-beneath-the-snow-with-teri-brown-terimbrown1/

Listen to your inner voice.Today's featured award-winning bestselling author is a mom, wife, London-based ghostwriter, tennis addict, and pro cellist, Alice McVeigh. Alice and I had a fun chat about her books, what really goes on behind the scenes in top London orchestras, and more!! Key Things You'll Learn:What inspired Alice to write in multiple genresHow it can be challenging to write Jane Austenesque FictionHer advice for younger writers Alice's Site: https://alicemcveigh.com/Alice's Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Alice-Mcveigh/author/B07TDKZPVT?ref=ap_rdr&store_ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true The opening track is titled "Pilot Wings Remix" by Rukunetsu (aka Project R). Click on the following link to listen and cop the full tune. https://soundcloud.com/rukunetsu/pilotwings-4-results Please support today's podcast to keep this content coming! CashApp: $DomBrightmonDonate on PayPal: @DBrightmonBuy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/dombrightmonGet Going North T-Shirts, Stickers, and More: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/dom-brightmon You May Also Like… Ep. 531 – “Where the Stork Flies” with Linda Wisniewski (@Lindawis): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-531-where-the-stork-flies-with-linda-wisniewski-lindawis/ Ep. 555 – “Sunflowers Beneath the Snow” with Teri Brown (@TeriMBrown1): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-555-sunflowers-beneath-the-snow-with-teri-brown-terimbrown1/ #LocalAuthor Bonus Ep. – “The Wise Man” with Michele Chynoweth (@AuthorMichele): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/localauthor-bonus-ep-the-wise-man-with-michele-chynoweth-authormichele/ Ep. 354 – “Thrilling Self-Love” with Kristina Rienzi: https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-354-thrilling-self-love-with-kristina-rienzi/ Ep. 530 – “Nurse Turned Award-Winning Author” with Helen Starbuck (@HelenSStarbuck): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-530-nurse-turned-award-winning-author-with-helen-starbuck-helensstarbuck/ Ep. 573 – “From US Veteran to Sci-Fi Novelist” with Pat Daily (@patdailyauthor): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-573-from-us-veteran-to-sci-fi-novelist-with-pat-daily-patdailyauthor/ Ep. 368.5 – “Hollystone Mysteries” with W.L. Hawkin (@ladyhawke1003): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-3685-hollystone-mysteries-with-wl-hawkin-ladyhawke1003/ Ep. 593 – “The Perfect Neighborhood” with Liz Alterman (@LizAlterman): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-593-the-perfect-neighborhood-with-liz-alterman-lizalterman/ Ep. 568 – “The Multi-Hyphen Mystery Author Life” with Diane Bator (@bator_l): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-568-the-multi-hyphen-mystery-author-life-with-diane-bator-bator_l/ Ep. 332 – “Her Perfect Life” with Hank Phillippi Ryan (@HankPRyan): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-332-her-perfect-life-with-hank-phillippi-ryan-hankpryan/ #Holiday Bonus Ep. – “Bird of Paradise” with Emily Johnson (@elhughes01): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/holiday-bonus-ep-bird-of-paradise-with-emily-johnson-elhughes01/

The guys break down the Illini's 73-44 win over Syracuse. We go through Hawkin's triple-double, looked back at Vegas/Lindenwood, and look forward to Maryland and Texas.

“Humor is my drug of choice.” – Liz AltermanToday's featured author is a mom, wife, humorist, and longtime journalist, Liz Alterman. Liz and I had a fun chat about her book, “The Perfect Neighborhood”, coping with rejection, and more!! Key Things You'll Learn:How she became a writerThe most challenging part about going from writing news articles to writing full-blown novelsHow she got her book published in both USA & the UKHow to add more humor into your writing.Her plans for her next book Liz's Site: https://www.lizalterman.com/Liz's Books: https://www.amazon.com/Liz-Alterman/e/B08Y7SJQG4/ref=aufs_dp_fta_dsk The opening track of this episode is titled “Violet” by MadXRuler. Click the following link to hear the full track and support the artist. https://madxruler.bandcamp.com/track/violet You May Also Like… Ep. 378 – “Writing Adventures with The Dialogue Doctor” with Jeff Elkins (@Jffelkins): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-378-writing-adventures-with-the-dialogue-doctor-with-jeff-elkins-jffelkins/ Ep. 382 – “Coming Out as Yourself” with Stephanie Lavigne (@stephlavigne): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-382-coming-out/ Ep. 351 – “The Gift Legacy” with JP McLean (@jpmcleanauthor): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-351-the-gift-legacy-with-jp-mclean-jpmcleanauthor/ Ep. 586 – “Flipping Bad Situations into Joyful Children's Books” with Violet Lemay (@violetlemay): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-586-flipping-bad-situations-into-joyful-childrens-books-with-violet-lemay-violetlemay/ 216 – “The Write Way” with Amy Collins (@askamycollins): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/216-the-write-way-with-amy-collins-askamycollins/ Ep. 340 – “A Single Light” with Tosca Lee (@ToscaLee): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-340-a-single-light-with-tosca-lee-toscalee/ Ep. 568 – “The Multi-Hyphen Mystery Author Life” with Diane Bator (@bator_l): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-568-the-multi-hyphen-mystery-author-life-with-diane-bator-bator_l/ Ep. 318 – “Beautiful, Frightening and Silent” with Jennifer Anne Gordon (@JenniferAnneGo5): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-318-beautiful-frightening-and-silent-with-jennifer-anne-gordon-jenniferannego5/ Ep. 332 – “Her Perfect Life” with Hank Phillippi Ryan (@HankPRyan): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-332-her-perfect-life-with-hank-phillippi-ryan-hankpryan/ Ep. 555 – “Sunflowers Beneath the Snow” with Teri Brown (@TeriMBrown1): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-555-sunflowers-beneath-the-snow-with-teri-brown-terimbrown1/ Ep. 354 – “Thrilling Self-Love” with Kristina Rienzi: https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-354-thrilling-self-love-with-kristina-rienzi/ Ep. 530 – “Nurse Turned Award-Winning Author” with Helen Starbuck (@HelenSStarbuck): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-530-nurse-turned-award-winning-author-with-helen-starbuck-helensstarbuck/ Ep. 368.5 – “Hollystone Mysteries” with W.L. Hawkin (@ladyhawke1003): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-3685-hollystone-mysteries-with-wl-hawkin-ladyhawke1003/ Ep. 363 – “The Nowhere Pack” with VK Tritschler (@vktritschler): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-363-the-nowhere-pack-with-vk-tritschler-vktritschler/ Ep. 349.5 – “Signs in the Rearview Mirror” with Kelly Smith (@kellys_author): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-3495-signs-in-the-rearview-mirror-with-kelly-smith-kellys_author/

“People want to read about ordinary lives too because we read books to learn how to live.” - Linda WisniewskiToday's featured award-winning author is memoir teacher, quilter, walker, knitter, ex-librarian, and docent at Pearl S. Buck International, Linda Wisniewski. Linda and I have a fun chat about her book, “Where the Stork Flies”, her journey to becoming a published author, and more!!! Key Things You'll Learn:How bread led Linda to publish booksHow Linda became a librarianHow she helps others to finish writing their memoirsThe mindset aspiring memoir writers need to have Linda's Site: https://lindawis.com/Linda's Books: https://www.amazon.com/kindle-dbs/entity/author/B001JP45VU?_encoding=UTF8&node=2656022011&offset=0&pageSize=12&searchAlias=stripbooks&sort=author-sidecar-rank&page=1&langFilter=default#formatSelectorHeader The opening track is titled "New Perspective" by the magnanimous chill-hop master, Marcus D (@marcusd). Be sure to visit his site and support his craft. http://marcusd.net/album/secret-bosses-unreleased-retrod-beats You May Also Like… Ep. 530 – “Nurse Turned Award-Winning Author” with Helen Starbuck (@HelenSStarbuck): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-530-nurse-turned-award-winning-author-with-helen-starbuck-helensstarbuck/ Ep. 410 – “Research Scientist Turned Urban Fantasy Author” with Kristi Charish (@kristicharish): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-410-research-scientist-turned-urban-fantasy-author-with-kristi-charish-kristicharish/ Ep. 443 – “Buried Beneath” with Kelly Ann Hopkins (@khopkinswrites): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-433-buried-beneath-with-kelly-ann-hopkins-khopkinswrites/ Ep. 449 – “House of the Moon” with Donna Conrad (@DonnaDConrad999): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-449-house-of-the-moon-with-donna-conrad-donnadconrad999/ Ep. 340 – “A Single Light” with Tosca Lee (@ToscaLee): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-340-a-single-light-with-tosca-lee-toscalee/ #Holiday Bonus Ep. – “Bird of Paradise” with Emily Johnson (@elhughes01): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/holiday-bonus-ep-bird-of-paradise-with-emily-johnson-elhughes01/ #LocalAuthor Bonus Ep. – “The Wise Man” with Michele Chynoweth (@AuthorMichele): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/localauthor-bonus-ep-the-wise-man-with-michele-chynoweth-authormichele/ Ep. 368.5 – “Hollystone Mysteries” with W.L. Hawkin (@ladyhawke1003): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-3685-hollystone-mysteries-with-wl-hawkin-ladyhawke1003/ Ep. 351 – “The Gift Legacy” with JP McLean (@jpmcleanauthor): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-351-the-gift-legacy-with-jp-mclean-jpmcleanauthor/Ep. 334.5 (Holiday Bonus) – “The Business of Immortality” with Sahara Foley (@SaharaFoley): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-3345-holiday-bonus-the-business-of-immortality-with-sahara-foley-saharafoley/ 240 – “Living An International Life” with E.J. Moran: https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/240-living-an-international-life-with-ej-moran/ Ep. 335 – “Last of the Gifted” with Marie Powell (@mepowell): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-335-last-of-the-gifted-with-marie-powell-mepowell/ 25 - "Escapism, History, & Good Advice" with Kate Dolan (@KDHays): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/25-escapism-history-good-advice-with-kate-dolan-kdhays/ Ep. 363 – “The Nowhere Pack” with VK Tritschler (@vktritschler): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-363-the-nowhere-pack-with-vk-tritschler-vktritschler/ Ep. 357 – “Heretics” with V.S. Holmes (@VS_Holmes): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-357-heretics-with-vs-holmes-vs_holmes/ Ep. 334.5 (Holiday Bonus) – “The Business of Immortality” with Sahara Foley (@SaharaFoley): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-3345-holiday-bonus-the-business-of-immortality-with-sahara-foley-saharafoley/ Ep. 311 – “Works of Urban Mythopoeia” with Cat Rambo (@Catrambo): https://www.goingnorthpodcast.com/ep-311-works-of-urban-mythopoeia-with-cat-rambo-catrambo/

Let's hop back into Jack, Phil, and the gang in 1952 then 1942!

The war in Ukraine has shifted into a new phase. Putin is quickly becoming more and more isolated. And more and more brutal. But Ukraine is on the offensive. And more and more by the day, the mighty Ukrainians are looking like they can win this thing. Almost single-handedly. On behalf of the world. But make no mistake. It can get worse. MUCH worse. Especially in Ukraine.  Worse than the targeting of schools and churches.  Worse than the shelling of civilians flying.  Worse than shooting missiles that kill kids. Worse than that? Yes. Worse than that.  What's the worst that could happen? One word: NUKES. Yep, nukes.  We're getting to the ground truth about what the real nuclear threats are, what the most dangerous nuclear threats are, and what the most likely nuclear threats are.  Joe Cirincione (@Cirincione) is back. He worked on nuclear weapons policy in Washington for more than 35 years and is one of the top experts in the field. He was the Director for Non-Proliferation at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and author of Deadly Arsenals: Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Threats, and co-author of Universal Compliance: A Strategy for Nuclear Security. He was the president of Ploughshares Fund, a global security foundation. Taught at the Georgetown University Graduate School of Foreign Service. He's one of America's best known weapons experts, appearing frequently in print and on FOX News, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, PBS, NPR and occasionally on Comedy Central. After joining us for Episode 141 - Nov. 18, 202, he's back to drop knowledge bombs about nukes. And it's an episode you don't want to miss. Every episode of Independent Americans hosted by Paul Rieckhoff is the truth beyond the headlines–and light to contrast the heat of other politics and news shows. It's content for the 42% of Americans that proudly call themselves independent. And delivers the Righteous Media 5 Is: independence, integrity, information, inspiration and impact. Always with a unique focus on national security, foreign affairs and military and veterans issues. This is another pod to help you stay vigilant. Because vigilance is the price of democracy. In these trying times especially, Independent Americans will continue to be your trusted place for independent news, politics, inspiration and hope.  Listen to President Biden's speech here: https://www.c-span.org/video/?519061-1/president-biden-putin-cannot-remain-power -Get extra content, connect with guests, attend events, get merch discounts and support this show that speaks truth to power by joining us on Patreon.  -Read Joe's latest article in Responsible Statecraft: Let's curb loose talk of using lower-yield nuclear weapons - WATCH video of Paul and Joe's conversation here. -Check the hashtag #LookForTheHelpers on Twitter. And share yours.  -Find us on social media or www.IndependentAmericans.us.  -Check out other Righteous podcasts like The Firefighters Podcast with Rob Serra, Uncle Montel - The OG of Weed and B Dorm.  Independent Americans is powered by Righteous Media. America's next great independent media company. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices