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On our previous Deep Focus, host Mitch Goldman and his guest, saxophonist Eric Person explored the work of the David Murray Octet of the 1980s. Here was an ensemble that punched far above its weight, with swinging horn parts like a Thirties big band as well eyeball-to-eyeball improvisation like a small ensemble. They had the storytelling of a traditional group with the expansive harmonies and extended techniques that were being freshly discovered at the time. It was a laboratory for the music's possible futures, and they grooved like hell. Could there have been another band at the time that fit this description? As Eric Person's one-time employer, Ronald Shannon Jackson might have said, "Where there's one there's two." This week Mitch and Eric explore the equally inventive bands of Arthur Blythe. His eighties quintet didn't sound like any other band before or since. It was as if he had exploded a standard hard bop ensemble and rebuilt it with a new kit of parts. And do you know who that band's original guitarist was? And have you ever heard live recordings of that band with him in it? We don't think you have! Tune in and you will. This Monday (2/3) from 6p to 9p NYC time on WKCR 89.9FM, WKCR-HD or wkcr.org. Or join us next week when it goes up on the Deep Focus podcast on your favorite podcasting app or at https://mitchgoldman.podbean.com/. Subscribe right now to get notifications when new episodes are posted. It's ad-free, all free, totally non-commercial. We won't even ask for your contact info. Find out more about Deep Focus at https://mitchgoldman.com/about-deep-focus/ or join us on Instagram @deep_focus_podcast. Photo credit: no publishing information available. #WKCR #DeepFocus #EricPerson #ArthurBlythe #JazzRadio #JazzPodcast #JazzInterview #MitchGoldman
On our previous Deep Focus, host Mitch Goldman and his guest, saxophonist Eric Person explored the work of the David Murray Octet of the 1980s. Here was an ensemble that punched far above its weight, with swinging horn parts like a Thirties big band as well eyeball-to-eyeball improvisation like a small ensemble. They had the storytelling of a traditional group with the expansive harmonies and extended techniques that were being freshly discovered at the time. It was a laboratory for the music's possible futures, and they grooved like hell. Could there have been another band at the time that fit this description? As Eric Person's one-time employer, Ronald Shannon Jackson might have said, "Where there's one there's two." This week Mitch and Eric explore the equally inventive bands of Arthur Blythe. His eighties quintet didn't sound like any other band before or since. It was as if he had exploded a standard hard bop ensemble and rebuilt it with a new kit of parts. And do you know who that band's original guitarist was? And have you ever heard live recordings of that band with him in it? We don't think you have! Tune in and you will. This Monday (2/3) from 6p to 9p NYC time on WKCR 89.9FM, WKCR-HD or wkcr.org. Or join us next week when it goes up on the Deep Focus podcast on your favorite podcasting app or at https://mitchgoldman.podbean.com/. Subscribe right now to get notifications when new episodes are posted. It's ad-free, all free, totally non-commercial. We won't even ask for your contact info. Find out more about Deep Focus at https://mitchgoldman.com/about-deep-focus/ or join us on Instagram @deep_focus_podcast. Photo credit: no publishing information available. #WKCR #DeepFocus #EricPerson #ArthurBlythe #JazzRadio #JazzPodcast #JazzInterview #MitchGoldman
In Part 2, we pick up where we left off in Part 1. Nato details the three times he's left his hometown of San Francisco. The first was when he went to college, which was at Reed in Portland, Oregon, in the mid-Nineties. To get us there, Nato rattles off all of the ways that he was a "comedy head" before that was even a thing. At Reed, he met a guy who's dad was the manager of the Comedy Underground in Seattle. Nato's first time doing stand-up on stage was at the Comedy Underground, in fact. As he describes it, to say that he bombed that first time would be an understatement. "It's the closest I've ever come to literally shitting my pants." Nato then does a rendition of his first joke that night. Audible growls are heard in our recording. Nevertheless, he did a few more open-mics at that spot in Seattle. He liked it enough. But after graduating from college and moving back to The City, he dedicated his life to being a union organizer. As a history student at Reed, he'd written a thesis about the anti-Chinese movement in San Francisco in the 1870s. Nato then explains how the series Warrior is based on this time in SF. There's bits in the story about the incredibly racist and anti-union human for which Kearny Street is sometimes attributed to. That thesis is what got Nato interested in doing labor work. He resumed going to comedy shows, but not getting up on stage. Around the time he turned 30, he found himself laboring over the jokes he'd tell at all the weddings he'd go to. He was also asked to give talks at labor conferences, which doubled as canvasses for Nato to deliver more of his own comedy material. All of these comedic sprinklings led him back to the stage. His first regular spot back in SF was the BrainWash (RIP) on Folsom Street. Once again, the jokes bombed, though his pants fared better this go-round. He offers up another telling of a joke from that era of his. You've been warned. As he left the BrainWash one of those nights, local comedy legend Tony Sparks asked him to come back the next week, and he did. Eventually, Nato invited his friends to come see him perform. He'd moved back to San Francisco in 1997 to do union organizing, as we've mentioned. Two years before that, John Sweeney had been elected president of the AFL-CIO. Sweeney pushed to "organize the unorganized" and bring young people into the labor movement. Nato was part of this wave. He got a job at Noah's Bagels and organized a union there. He went to anything he heard about that interested him. He and his then-girlfriend/now wife would attend talks and rallies together. Nato would sometimes find himself that only ally at, say, LGBTQIA union meetings. This was well before we even used words like "ally." Nato was approached to organize workers at the Real Foods on 24th Street. Then the International Longshore and Warehouse Union was beginning to organize bike and car messengers in San Francisco. Nato worked as a car messenger, which he did for three years, and helped organize his coworkers. We go on a short sidebar about bike messenger culture in The City in the late-Nineties. It was huge. A few moves from union to union here and there, and Nato found himself raising money and helping to open a low-wage workers' center for young and immigrant folks in the service industry. That center is still around today. The second time Nato left San Francisco was in 2012. This flight took him to New York City, where he relocated to write for his friend W. Kamau Bell's first TV show, Totally Biased. As Nato puts it, he "got the chance to be a Jewish comedy writer living in Brooklyn for six months." Then, in 2018, he and his family moved to Havana, Cuba, for six months while his wife worked on her PhD research. Nato says that the only time he was tempted to relocate permanently was during his time in NYC. His kids liked it there. They looked at different neighborhoods and even schools. But Nato wasn't all that happy in New York. The experience took a toll on his friendship with Kamau (they've since moved on and are tight once again). And then the show got canceled. The universe had spoken. That center he'd helped to found back in San Francisco had passed the nation's first minimum-wage municipal law. In 2006, they helped pass paid sick days here in The City. Nato had left the organization just before that to join the California Nurses' Association (CNA). Through that org, he was part of the ultimately successful effort to keep St. Luke's hospital open. It was after his time with the CNA, 2011 or so, that Nato returned to doing stand-up. He recorded his first comedy album and went on his first comedy tour (with Kamau). In 2014, he returned to organized labor, joining Service Employees International Union (SEIU) 1021. He works there today, as head of collective bargaining. We return to comedy and Nato lists off some more folks doing open-mics with him a decade or so ago who've moved on to various levels of fame and recognition—Ali Wong, Chris Garcia, Shang Wang, Kevin Camia, Moshe Kasher, and Brent Weinbach, to name a few. Nato takes us on yet another sidebar, but it's a good one. It's all about the "Punchline Pipeline," the system by which local comics can test their chops for a while until they're ready (or not) to move on to bigger and better things. It took Nato three years to work up to the level of paid host at The Punchline. Around 2006, to go back, he and Kamau started doing political comedy shows together. This was during the George W. Bush years, when "leftist," "liberal" comedy was big. Then Obama got elected and that type of comedy cooled off considerably. Nato started to host shows at The Make-Out Room monthly. He credits that stint as the time that he "figured it out." Nato still does stand-up, though not with the intensity with which he performed in his Thirties. Today, he contributes regularly to The Bugle Podcast. He works with Francesca Fiorintini and her Bitchuation Room show. He's also trying to find time to write a book—a funny take on union organizing. And he's kicking around the idea of another comedy album, which would be his third. Follow Nato on Instagram and Blue Sky. His two albums are available to stream or buy on BandCamp. We end the podcast with Nato's thoughts on our theme this season: Keep It Local. We recorded this episode at Nato's home on Bernal Hill in January 2025. Photography by Nate Oliveira
Are you happy or just comfortable? In this episode of Speak Easy, we explore the fine line between true happiness and staying in a familiar space. Kristine shares her journey—how achieving past goals shifted her motivation and the ongoing challenge of balancing ambition with contentment. We dive into the difference between fleeting emotions and lasting fulfillment. This episode focuses on understanding your patterns and the unique balance that supports personal growth. Key takeaways include: ✨ How to recognize true happiness and what sets it apart from comfort. ✨ The impact of past achievements on motivation and fulfillment. ✨ Ways to identify when you're expanding beyond your comfort zone. ✨ The role of self-awareness in growth and transformation. ✨ The benefits of energetic work and talk therapy in creating well-being. Tune in to explore how to create a life that thrives! 00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview 00:09 Defining Happiness vs. Comfort 00:51 Personal Experiences and Reflections 01:59 Challenges of Pushing Beyond Comfort 05:20 Finding Alignment and Personal Growth 07:25 Experimenting with Leadership Styles 10:02 Realizing True Contentment 12:56 Identifying Comfort Zones 19:38 Balancing Relationships and Business 23:00 Recognizing the Need for Growth 26:22 Pushing Beyond Comfort Zones 31:31 Embracing New Levels of Comfort 33:32 Reflecting on My Twenties and Thirties 34:11 The Joy of Flexibility and Giving Back 34:51 Balancing Growth and Sustainability 39:27 Signs of True Happiness and Fulfillment 41:39 Embracing Leadership and Bold Moves 59:31 Questions to Assess Your Contentment 01:05:16 The Power of Healing Modalities 01:10:17 Conclusion and Listener Engagement ______ ➡️ Want to know what it's really like to take content creation from hobby to career in less than 12 months? Check out my Exclusive Audio Series: Influencer Life and Business Bundle. ______
On our previous Deep Focus, host Mitch Goldman and his guest, saxophonist Eric Person explored the work of the David Murray Octet of the 1980s. Here was an ensemble that punched far above its weight, with swinging horn parts like a Thirties big band, as well eyeball-to-eyeball improvisation like a small ensemble. They had the storytelling of a traditional group with the expansive harmonies and extended techniques that were being freshly discovered at the time. It was a laboratory for the music's possible futures, and they grooved like hell. Could there have been another band at the time that fit this description? As Eric Person's one-time employer, Ronald Shannon Jackson might have said, "Where there's one there's two." This week Mitch and Eric explore the equally inventive bands of Arthur Blythe. His eighties quintet didn't sound like any other band before or since. It was as if he had exploded a standard hard bop ensemble and rebuilt it with a new kit of parts. And do you know who that band's original guitarist was? And have you ever heard live recordings of that band with him in it? We don't think you have! Tune in and you will. This Monday (2/3) from 6p to 9p NYC time on WKCR 89.9FM, WKCR-HD or wkcr.org. Or join us next week when it goes up on the Deep Focus podcast on your favorite podcasting app or at https://mitchgoldman.podbean.com/. Subscribe right now to get notifications when new episodes are posted. It's ad-free, all free, totally non-commercial. We won't even ask for your contact info. Find out more about Deep Focus at https://mitchgoldman.com/about-deep-focus/ or join us on Instagram @deep_focus_podcast. Photo credit: no publishing information available. #WKCR #DeepFocus #EricPerson #ArthurBlythe #JazzRadio #JazzPodcast #JazzInterview #MitchGoldman
On his debut, self-titled record, Michigander runs through a gamut of questions. It reckons with the existential qualms around turning 30, how to let the people we love be imperfect, & speaking up for what you believe in, regardless of who it might alienate. Be sure to listen to 'Michigander' wherever you stream or buy your music! Find Michigander on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0oL26Dn9y761yfJgNb3vfu On Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/artist/michigander/1096482927 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/michiganderband/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@michiganderband?lang=en Subscribe: https://beforethechorus.bio.to/listen Sign up for our newsletter: https://www.beforethechorus.com/ Follow on Instagram: @beforethechoruspodcast & @soundslikesofia About the podcast: Welcome to Before the Chorus, where we go beyond the sounds of our favourite songs to hear the stories of the artists who wrote them. Before a song is released, a record is produced, or a chorus is written, the musicians that write them think. A lot. They live. A lot. And they feel. A LOT. Hosted by award-winning interviewer Sofia Loporcaro, Before the Chorus explores the genuine human experiences behind the music. Sofia's deep knowledge of music and personal journey with mental health help her connect with artists on a meaningful level. This is a space where fans connect with artists, and listeners from all walks of life feel seen through the stories that shape the music we love. About the host: Sofia Loporcaro is an award-winning interviewer and radio host who's spent over 8 years helping musicians share their stories. She's hosted shows for Amazing Radio, and Transmission Roundhouse. Now on Before the Chorus, she's had the chance to host guests like Glass Animals, Feist, Madison Cunningham, Mick Jenkins, & Ru Paul's Drag Race winner Shea Couleé. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Before I reached my thirties I had a (very untrue) perception that life in my thirties would get easier, I would be more of an ‘adult' and life would seamlessly flow along. I was in for a shock when I realized quite quickly that adulting isn't really a feeling (not one that was going to come in my thirties) and that this decade was full of huge changes, decisions and challenges.In this vulnerable and honest solo episode I am reflecting on each year of my thirties and I have picked one big challenge I went through and the subsequent lesson I learned and took with me on my thirties journey. The stories I am sharing range from discussing career uncertainties, relationship struggles, feelings of being left behind, and welcoming in new chapters and identity shifts.I invite you to join the waitlist for my brand new membership program TURNING. A community space designed for women in their thirties to support each other. Doors are re-opening in March-sign up here to get first access (there will be limited spots!).Follow me at@turning30coach on Instagram.
Warner Brothers was one of the minor studios until they introduced the first talking picture, which made the studio into one of the majors. In the Thirties, Warner Brothers, led by the irascible Jack L. Warner, was known for its glitzy musicals and crime dramas. In the early Forties, the studio released two films that are now regarded as among the best American films ever made: The Maltese Falcon and Casablanca.
In this solo episode we're diving into the power of making bold, brave decisions and moving into new chapters. I am sharing my personal journey of relocating to Thailand at the end of last year, a decision that marked the end of a challenging chapter. In the episode I am giving you both inspiration and tips for how to navigate the big decisions- whether it's changing careers, starting a new business, ending a relationship, or simply taking that first big step to your 2025 goals. This episode will inspire you to face your fears, trust your intuition, and take action. Tune in for practical tips for how to make that big decision and some things to expect what will happen when you have finally made it (and how to overcome them). This episode is for you if you want to know how to break free from inertia, embrace life's chapters, and manifest your next bold move. Let's make 2025 the year of brave decisions and unstoppable growth! You are invited to become a founding member of my brand new membership Turning. To join the waitlist and receive the invitation- please head over to @turning30coach on Instagram and DM ‘FOUNDER'. Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and share this episode with anyone who you know would benefit from it!
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The Trombone Corner Podcast is brought to you by Bob Reeves Brass and The Brass Ark. Join hosts Noah and John as they interview Ira Nepus, jazz and commercial trombonist from Los Angeles. About Ira: Ira Nepus was born in Los Angeles, California and was raised on the jazz heritage of his father, one of the key founders of the Hot Club of France in Paris during the late Thirties and was featured in his first jazz concert at the age of 15. Ira gives equal importance to all styles of jazz, from traditional on up through contemporary. Ira currently performs with the Clayton-Hamilton Jazz Orchestra, which he has been an original member of for over thirty-eight years, privately teaches, and performs in all major recording studios throughout the Los Angeles area. He also plays and tours periodically with his own quartet and continues to record in that format. He currently is artistic director for the Gardens of the World's Summer Jazz Series in Thousand Oaks, sponsored by the Hogan Family Foundation celebrating over 10 years of concerts in the Park. He has performed/recorded with Paul McCartney, Elton John, Leon Russell, Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, Elvis Costello, BB King, (Grammy Winner) and/or also recorded with some of the following greats: Benny Carter, Woody Herman, Del Courtney, Quincy Jones, Gerald Wilson, Nelson Riddle, Lionel Hampton, Ray Charles, Sammy Davis Jr, Ella Fitzgerald, Peggy Lee, Aretha Franklin, Diana Krall, and Cab Calloway to name a few.
In this episode, I sit down with Elizabeth Endres to discuss her journey with physical and emotional wellness, being a highly sensitive person, and how she has navigated dating in her thirties versus her twenties. We talk about the different roles our friends play in our lives, how being highly sensitive has benefited her and created challenges in both her professional and personal lives, and why being misunderstood can be so triggering. She shares how recovering from a breakup in her thirties brought her closer to herself, how her journey with chronic pelvic pain manifested, and how practicing Journal Speak and releasing stored emotions helped her move through it. Finally, we discuss how health-related anxiety can be so all-consuming, Elizabeth's journey with her mental health, and how she overcame the self-judgment that can come from being on medication.Key Takeaway / Points:On the different roles our friends play in our livesElizabeth on being a highly sensitive person, physically and emotionallyOn navigating being highly sensitive in relationshipsOn the benefits and pitfalls of being a perfectionistOn the trigger of being misunderstoodOn dating in your thirties vs. your twentiesOn recovering from a breakup and how heartache brought her closer to herselfElizabeth's journey with chronic pelvic painOn practicing Journal Speak and releasing pent-up energyOn health-related anxiety and the mental spiral we can fall downElizabeth's experience with medication for mental healthOn overcoming the self-judgment that can come from being on medicationHow Elizabeth fills her cupSign up for the To Be Magnetic course hereThis episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.Get your free LMNT Sample Pack with any purchase at drinklmnt.com/CAMERONGo to quince.com/cameron for free shipping on your order and 365-day returnsVisit ryleeandcru.com/conversationswithcam to shop all of Cameron's favorite Rylee and Cru styles on saleInstagram: Check out Instagram teen accounts!Follow Elizabeth:Podcast: The Wellness ProcessTikTok: @elizabethendresInstagram: @elizaend and @sweatsandthecityFollow me:Instagram: @cameronoaksrogers and @conversationswithcamSubstack: Fill Your CupWebsite: cameronoaksrogers.comTikTok: @cameronoaksrogers and @conversations_with_camYoutube: Cameron RogersCreative Lead: Amelie YeagerProduced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
If I could go back in time and freeze my eggs in my twenties, I would 100000% do it without question. So what exactly happens during the egg-freezing process? Let me tell you all. With love, Nixalina. For more awesome content to read including beauty, fashion or dating & love features, please do head over to my digital platform www.nixalina.com. Don't be shy, come say hai! Head over to my Instagram or Tiktok @nixalina to slide into my DMs.
Julia Washington (Prose and Glow) is back to talk to Natalie about entering her Rom Com Era. Julia has been creating content about dating herself and doing activities that you would find in a standard Rom Com to try and find her ideal relationship. Her and Natalie will discuss how the dating landscape has changed as women's expectations for relationships and dating have evolved as they do things like de-centering men and honing in on their own independence and power. What will it take for men to catch up to being able to appreciate women who are confident in themselves and their standards? You'll have to watch Julia's romantic comedy lifestyle to figure it out!Make sure you have subscribed to us on Patreon! Every tier has a 7-day free trial and it is the only place to find our free blog posts, Tolerator Check-In episodes, and The Misogyny Meltdown. Follow us at @menivetoleratedpod on Instagram! All ways to support the show can be found at https://linktr.ee/menivetoleratedpod.Join the newsletter so you never miss any update we have on Team Tolerator!Support Julia:On instagram: @popculturemakesmejealous and @thejuliawashingtonShop Prose and Glow: https://www.juliawashingtonproductions.com/Podcasts: Pop Culture Makes Me Jealous and Jelly Pops Book Club
Thousands of farmers descended on London this week threatening to escalate their protests unless the chancellor meets them for talks over inheritance tax amid growing discontent among rural Labour MPs about government plans. One of those protestors was dairy farmer Kelly Seaton who joins Andrew and Sarah to tell them why she was impelled to take to the streets of Whitehall this week. Official estimates of the decision to strip more than ten million pensioners of the winter fuel payments have concluded it will result in around 50,000 older people in poverty at any time with warnings that the policy could soon lead to more elderly people dying of cold. Prompting Scottish Labour to announce that it would scrap the policy if it won power in Holyrood. So, we ask, why the schism? Why not the whole Labour Party? Plus, to mark its 90th anniversary the British Council has produced a list of 90 words that have defined the decades. They include the invention of terms such as “nylon” in the Thirties and “disc jockey” a decade later, to the rise of Gen Z slang like “rizz” and “edgelord,” you may be surprised to find which word resonates with Andrew and Sarah most… To get in touch email Reaction@dailymail.co.uk, you can leave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - on 07796 657512 start your message with the word 'reaction' Presenters: Sarah Vine & Andrew Pierce Producer: Philip Wilding Editor: Alex Graham Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini Executive Producer: Jamie East A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
In this comprehensive episode of Finding Financial Freedom with The Frugal Physician, Dr. Disha Spath hosts Travis Hornsby, founder and CEO of Student Loan Planner, to explore the current landscape of student loans and repayment strategies for high-debt professionals. With over $800 million in student loans consulted on, Travis is an authority on loan repayment and shares crucial insights on navigating Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF), recent policy changes, and strategies for repayment that every physician, professional, and student loan borrower needs to know. Discover how changes in student loan policies under the Trump, Obama, and Biden administrations have reshaped the repayment landscape and what potential policy shifts could mean for borrowers in the coming years. Travis also discusses methods to optimize PSLF eligibility, the pros and cons of refinancing, and the best strategies for long-term financial freedom despite student loan debt. Key Topics Covered: Travis Hornsby's Journey & Student Loan Planner's Mission Travis's background in finance and bond trading at Vanguard, his journey to starting Student Loan Planner, and why he's dedicated his career to helping borrowers navigate complex student loan systems. Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF): From Inception to Transformation How PSLF has evolved since its inception in 2007, including challenges under the Trump administration and impactful changes introduced by President Biden. Changes in Income-Driven Repayment (IDR) Plans Overview of the original income-driven repayment options (PAYE, REPAYE, IBR, ICR) and how Biden's new SAVE plan replaced REPAYE with enhanced interest subsidies. Potential Pitfalls & Common Mistakes in Repayment Plans How to avoid costly missteps when selecting a repayment plan, including considerations around PSLF qualification, income certification, and timing of tax filings. Navigating Political and Legal Challenges in Student Loan Policies Insights into current legal challenges to the SAVE plan and potential impacts of future policy changes on IDR options for physicians and other borrowers. Refinancing vs. Forgiveness Travis outlines when it's beneficial to refinance your loans versus staying on a PSLF track, with practical advice for borrowers based on debt-to-income ratio and financial goals. Resources Mentioned: Student Loan Planner for calculators, tools, and professional consultations. Travis's Books: Managing Your Money in Your Twenties and Thirties and 25 is the New 65: How to Retire Outrageously Early. Listener Takeaways: Gain a better understanding of student loan repayment plans and forgiveness options. Learn the strategies for managing student loans amidst political upheaval and legal challenges. Understand when refinancing makes sense versus sticking with PSLF or other forgiveness options. Connect with Us: Host: Dr. Disha Spath, The Frugal Physician Guest: Travis Hornsby, CFA, CFP, Student Loan Planner Follow us on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter for updates on upcoming episodes. Thank you for tuning in! Be sure to share this episode with anyone navigating student loan repayment. This episode is sponsored by: PearsonRavitz– Helping physicians safeguard their most valuable assets. This episode is also sponsored by FacetWealth– Discover how Facet is transforming financial planning for physicians with personalized, flat-fee financial planning—visit facet.com/frugalphysician to start building your financial future today.
The band does a lot of time traveling at its rehearsals. In those two hours each week, the guys might start with a rock classic like “Hey Baby,” as they do in this track from last week's get-together.Then in the next moment The Flood Time Machine Lab might transport the lads back to, say, the Roarin' Twenties.There they can sample a song or two of the day, maybe “Dinah” or “Lady Be Good” or “My Blue Heaven.”Then switching gears again, they swoop down into the Thirties or the Forties to toy with tunes from the greats like Hoagy Carmichael (“Georgia on My Mind,” maybe) or Fats Waller (“Honeysuckle Rose”) or Duke Ellington (“Don't Get Around Much Any More”).Then it's back to the Sixties or the Seventies for a bit of Bob Dylan, John Prine or Tom Paxton, Jackson Browne or Neal Young. It's all about rocking the room.This Week's SongThe featured tune this week demonstrates the best part of all that temporal tramping, because it so often lets the guys revisit music of their youth. As reported earlier, “Hey Baby” was a 1961 chart-topper that 17-year-old Bruce Channel wrote with his friend Margaret Cobb. Over the past six decades, the song has brought joy to audiences ranging from the fledgling Beatles when they were starting out back in Liverpool to movie goers years later who packed theaters for films like Dirty Dancing. For more of the song's long history, click here.The Flood started revisiting “Hey Baby” a few years ago when the band was invited to perform it at a very special occasion: the wedding of Floodster Emerita Michelle Hoge; she and Rich Hoge married on May 21, 2022, and The Flood was there for the festivities. Since then, “Hey Baby” has lingered in the repertoire, as you'll hear in this track that started last week's rehearsal at the Bowen House.Want to Do Your Own Time Traveling?If you'd like ride shotgun in The Flood time machine, a new department in the newsletter helps you take your own dash through the decades.Called “Flood Tunes on the Timeline,” the page sorts dozens of the band's performances by the date of the songs' composition. Here's how to use it.Suppose you're in the mood for a little sumpin sumpin from the period that folksinger Dave Van Ronk once wryly called “The Great Folk Scare.” You could visit the tune timeline by clicking here, then scrolling down to “The Sixties” section, where you'll find songs grouped by individual years.For instance, Dylan's “Don't Think Twice, It's All Right” is tucked in under 1962. There's Bob Gibson's “Abilene” in the 1963 list. Paxton's “Ramblin' Boy” comes along in 1964, Eric Andersen's “Dusty Boxcar Wall” is in 1965, and Michael Peter Smith's “The Dutchman” shows up in 1968.Each listed song on the timeline is hyperlinked, so clicking its title takes you to a recent Flood performance. Each entry also has a little (or a lot) of the history of that particular song.The timeline indexes more than a century of music and is regularly updated as new songs and stories are added. Enjoy the ride! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit 1937flood.substack.com
In this solo episode of Travis Makes Friends, we dive deep into a listener question that touches on something so many of us have experienced: Why is it so hard to make friends in your mid-30s, especially in a new city?✖️✖️✖️Instagram: @travischappellBook a 15-minute call with me: travischappell.com/chatVisit https://porkbun.com/BuildYourNetwork24 and get your .PRO domain for just $1 for the first year at Porkbun!Our Sponsors:* Check out Notion and use my code travismakesfriends for a great deal: www.notion.soAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy
On this episode of the pod, my guest is David Cayley, a Toronto-based Canadian writer and broadcaster. For more than thirty years (1981-2012) he made radio documentaries for CBC Radio One's program Ideas, which premiered in 1965 under the title The Best Ideas You'll Hear Tonight. In 1966, at the age of twenty, Cayley joined the Canadian University Service Overseas (CUSO), one of the many volunteer organizations that sprang up in the 1960's to promote international development. Two years later, back in Canada, he began to associate with a group of returned volunteers whose experiences had made them, like himself, increasingly quizzical about the idea of development. In 1968 in Chicago, he heard a lecture given by Ivan Illich and in 1970 he and others brought Illich to Toronto for a teach-in called “Crisis in Development.” This was the beginning of their long relationship: eighteen years later Cayley invited Illich to do a series of interviews for CBC Radio's Ideas. Cayley is the author of Ivan Illich: An Intellectual Journey (2022), Ideas on the Nature of Science (2009), The Rivers North of the Future: The Testament of Ivan Illich (2004), Puppet Uprising (2003),The Expanding Prison: The Crisis in Crime and Punishment and the Search for Alternatives (1998), George Grant in Conversation (1995), Northrop Frye in Conversation (1992), Ivan Illich in Conversation (1992), and The Age of Ecology (1990).Show Notes:The Early Years with Ivan IllichThe Good Samaritan StoryFalling out of a HomeworldThe Corruption of the Best is the Worst (Corruptio Optimi Pessima)How Hospitality Becomes HostilityHow to Live in ContradictionRediscovering the FutureThe Pilgrimage of SurpriseFriendship with the OtherHomework:Ivan Illich: An Intellectual Journey (Penn State Press) - Paperback Now Available!David Cayley's WebsiteThe Rivers North of the Future (House of Anansi Press)Ivan Illich | The Corruption of Christianity: Corruptio Optimi Pessima (2000)Charles Taylor: A Secular AgeTranscript:Chris: [00:00:00] Welcome, David, to the End of Tourism Podcast. It's a pleasure to finally meet you. David: Likewise. Thank you. Chris: I'm very grateful to have you joining me today. And I'm curious if you could offer our listeners a little glimpse into where you find yourself today and what the world looks like for you through the lenses of David Cayley.David: Gray and wet. In Toronto, we've had a mild winter so far, although we did just have some real winter for a couple of weeks. So, I'm at my desk in my house in downtown Toronto. Hmm. Chris: Hmm. Thank you so much for joining us, David. You know, I came to your work quite long ago.First through the book, The Rivers North of the Future, The Testament of Ivan Illich. And then through your long standing tenure as the host of CBC Ideas in Canada. I've also just finished reading your newest book, Ivan Illich, An Intellectual Journey. For me, which has been a clear and comprehensive homage [00:01:00] to that man's work.And so, from what I understand from the reading, you were a friend of Illich's as well as the late Gustavo Esteva, a mutual friend of ours, who I interviewed for the podcast shortly before his death in 2021. Now, since friendship is one of the themes I'd like to approach with you today, I'm wondering if you could tell us about how you met these men and what led you to writing a biography of the former, of Ivan.David: Well, let me answer about Ivan first. I met him as a very young man. I had spent two years living in northern Borneo, eastern Malaysia, the Malaysian state of Sarawak. As part of an organization called the Canadian University Service Overseas, which many people recognize only when it's identified with the Peace Corps. It was a similar initiative or the VSO, very much of the time.And When I returned to [00:02:00] Toronto in 1968, one of the first things I saw was an essay of Ivan's. It usually circulates under the name he never gave it, which is, "To Hell With Good Intentions." A talk he had given in Chicago to some young volunteers in a Catholic organization bound for Mexico.And it made sense to me in a radical and surprising way. So, I would say it began there. I went to CDOC the following year. The year after that we brought Ivan to Toronto for a teach in, in the fashion of the time, and he was then an immense celebrity, so we turned people away from a 600 seat theater that night when he lectured in Toronto.I kept in touch subsequently through reading mainly and we didn't meet again until the later 1980s when he came to Toronto.[00:03:00] He was then working on, in the history of literacy, had just published a book called ABC: the Alphabetization of the Western Mind. And that's where we became more closely connected. I went later that year to State College, Pennsylvania, where he was teaching at Penn State, and recorded a long interview, radically long.And made a five-hour Ideas series, but by a happy chance, I had not thought of this, his friend Lee Hoinacki asked for the raw tapes, transcribed them, and eventually that became a published book. And marked an epoch in Ivan's reception, as well as in my life because a lot of people responded to the spoken or transcribed Illich in a way that they didn't seem to be able to respond to his writing, which was scholastically condensed, let's [00:04:00] say.I always found it extremely congenial and I would even say witty in the deep sense of wit. But I think a lot of people, you know, found it hard and so the spoken Illich... people came to him, even old friends and said, you know, "we understand you better now." So, the following year he came to Toronto and stayed with us and, you know, a friendship blossomed and also a funny relationship where I kept trying to get him to express himself more on the theme of the book you mentioned, The Rivers North of the Future, which is his feeling that modernity, in the big sense of modernity can be best understood as perversionism. A word that he used, because he liked strong words, but it can be a frightening word."Corruption" also has its difficulties, [00:05:00] but sometimes he said "a turning inside out," which I like very much, or "a turning upside down" of the gospel. So, when the world has its way with the life, death and resurrection and teaching of Jesus Christ which inevitably becomes an institution when the world has its way with that.The way leads to where we are. That was his radical thought. And a novel thought, according to the philosopher Charles Taylor, a Canadian philosopher, who was kind enough to write a preface to that book when it was published, and I think very much aided its reception, because people knew who Charles Taylor was, and by then, they had kind of forgotten who Ivan Illich was.To give an example of that, when he died, the New York [00:06:00] Times obituary was headlined "Priest turned philosopher appealed to baby boomers in the 60s." This is yesterday's man, in other words, right? This is somebody who used to be important. So, I just kept at him about it, and eventually it became clear he was never going to write that book for a whole variety of reasons, which I won't go into now.But he did allow me to come to Cuernavaca, where he was living, and to do another very long set of interviews, which produced that book, The Rivers North of the Future. So that's the history in brief. The very last part of that story is that The Rivers North of the Future and the radio series that it was based on identifies themes that I find to be quite explosive. And so, in a certain way, the book you mentioned, Ivan Illich: An Intellectual Journey, [00:07:00] was destined from the moment that I recorded those conversations. Chris: Hmm, yeah, thank you, David. So much of what you said right there ends up being the basis for most of my questions today, especially around the corruption or the perversion what perhaps iatrogenesis also termed as iatrogenesis But much of what I've also come to ask today, stems and revolves around Illich's reading of the Good Samaritan story, so I'd like to start there, if that's alright.And you know, for our listeners who aren't familiar either with the story or Illich's take on it, I've gathered some small excerpts from An Intellectual Journey so that they might be on the same page, so to speak. So, from Ivan Illich, An Intellectual Journey:"jesus tells the story after he has been asked how to, quote, 'inherit eternal life,' end quote, and has replied that one must love God and one's neighbor, [00:08:00] quote, 'as oneself,' but, quote, who is my neighbor? His interlocutor wants to know. Jesus answers with his tale of a man on his way from Jerusalem to Jericho, who is beset by robbers, beaten, and left, quote, 'half dead' by the side of the road.Two men happen along, but, quote, 'pass by on the other side.' One is a priest and the other a Levite, a group that assisted the priests at the Great Temple, which, at that time, dominated the landscape of Jerusalem from the Temple Mount. Then, a Samaritan comes along. The Samaritans belonged to the estranged northern kingdom of Israel, and did not worship at the Temple.Tension between the Samaritans and the Judeans in the Second Temple period gives the name a significance somewhere between 'foreigner' and 'enemy.' [00:09:00] In contemporary terms, he was, as Illich liked to say, 'a Palestinian.' The Samaritan has, quote, 'compassion' on the wounded one. He stops, binds his wounds, takes him to an inn where he can convalesce and promises the innkeeper that he will return to pay the bill.'And so Jesus concludes by asking, 'Which of the three passers by was the neighbor?'Illich claimed that this parable had been persistently misunderstood as a story about how one ought to act. He had surveyed sermons from the 3rd through 19th centuries, he said, 'and found a broad consensus that what was being proposed was a, quote, rule of conduct.' But this interpretation was, in fact, quote, 'the opposite of what Jesus wanted to point out.'He had not been asked how to act toward a neighbor, but rather, 'who is my neighbor?' And he had replied, [00:10:00] scandalously, that it could be anyone at all. The choice of the Samaritan as the hero of the tale said, 'in effect, it is impossible to categorize who your neighbor might be.' The sense of being called to help the other is experienced intermittently and not as an unvarying obligation.A quote, 'new kind of ought has been established,' Illich says, which is not related to a norm. It has a telos, it aims at somebody, some body, but not according to a rule. And finally, The Master told them that who your neighbor is is not determined by your birth, by your condition, by the language which you speak, but by you.You can recognize the other man who is out of bounds culturally, who is foreign linguistically, who, you can [00:11:00] say by providence or pure chance, is the one who lies somewhere along your road in the grass and create the supreme form of relatedness, which is not given by creation, but created by you. Any attempt to explain this 'ought,' as correspond, as, as corresponding to a norm, takes out the mysterious greatness from this free act.And so, I think there are at least, at the very least, a few major points to take away from this little summary I've extracted. One, that the ability to choose one's neighbor, breaks the boundaries of ethnicity at the time, which were the bases for understanding one's identity and people and place in the world.And two, that it creates a new foundation for hospitality and interculturality. And so I'm [00:12:00] curious, David, if you'd be willing to elaborate on these points as you understand them.David: Well if you went a little farther on in that part of the book, you'd find an exposition of a German teacher and writer and professor, Claus Held, that I found very helpful in understanding what Ivan was saying. Held is a phenomenologist and a follower of Husserl, but he uses Husserl's term of the home world, right, that each of us has a home world. Mm-Hmm. Which is our ethnos within which our ethics apply.It's a world in which we can be at home and in which we can somehow manage, right? There are a manageable number of people to whom we are obliged. We're not universally obliged. So, what was interesting about Held's analysis is then the condition in which the wounded [00:13:00] man lies is, he's fallen outside of any reference or any home world, right?Nobody has to care for him. The priest and the Levite evidently don't care for him. They have more important things to do. The story doesn't tell you why. Is he ritually impure as one apparently dead is? What? You don't know. But they're on their way. They have other things to do. So the Samaritan is radically out of line, right?He dares to enter this no man's land, this exceptional state in which the wounded man lies, and he does it on the strength of a feeling, right? A stirring inside him. A call. It's definitely a bodily experience. In Ivan's language of norms, it's not a norm. It's not a duty.It's [00:14:00] not an obligation. It's not a thought. He's stirred. He is moved to do what he does and he cares for him and takes him to the inn and so on. So, the important thing in it for me is to understand the complementarity that's involved. Held says that if you try and develop a set of norms and ethics, however you want to say it, out of the Samaritan's Act, it ends up being radically corrosive, it ends up being radically corrosive damaging, destructive, disintegrating of the home world, right? If everybody's caring for everybody all the time universally, you're pretty soon in the maddening world, not pretty soon, but in a couple of millennia, in the maddening world we live in, right? Where people Can tell you with a straight face that their actions are intended to [00:15:00] save the planet and not experience a sense of grandiosity in saying that, right?Not experiencing seemingly a madness, a sense of things on a scale that is not proper to any human being, and is bound, I think, to be destructive of their capacity to be related to what is at hand. So, I think what Ivan is saying in saying this is a new kind of ought, right, it's the whole thing of the corruption of the best is the worst in a nutshell because as soon as you think you can operationalize that, you can turn everyone into a Samaritan and You, you begin to destroy the home world, right?You begin to destroy ethics. You begin to, or you transform ethics into something which is a contradiction of ethics. [00:16:00] So, there isn't an answer in it, in what he says. There's a complementarity, right? Hmm. There's the freedom to go outside, but if the freedom to go outside destroys any inside, then, what have you done?Right? Hmm. You've created an unlivable world. A world of such unending, such unimaginable obligation, as one now lives in Toronto, you know, where I pass homeless people all the time. I can't care for all of them. So, I think it's also a way of understanding for those who contemplate it that you really have to pay attention.What are you called to, right? What can you do? What is within your amplitude? What is urgent for you? Do that thing, right? Do not make yourself mad with [00:17:00] impossible charity. A charity you don't feel, you can't feel, you couldn't feel. Right? Take care of what's at hand, what you can take care of. What calls you.Chris: I think this comes up quite a bit these days. Especially, in light of international conflicts, conflicts that arise far from people's homes and yet the demand of that 'ought' perhaps of having to be aware and having to have or having to feel some kind of responsibility for these things that are happening in other places that maybe, It's not that they don't have anything to do with us but that our ability to have any kind of recourse for what happens in those places is perhaps flippant, fleeting, and even that we're stretched to the point that we can't even tend and attend to what's happening in front of us in our neighborhoods.And so, I'm curious as to how this came to be. You mentioned "the corruption" [00:18:00] and maybe we could just define that, if possible for our listeners this notion of "the corruption of the best is the worst." Would you be willing to do that? Do you think that that's an easy thing to do? David: I've been trying for 30 years.I can keep on trying. I really, I mean, that was the seed of everything. At the end of the interview we did in 1988, Ivan dropped that little bomb on me. And I was a diligent man, and I had prepared very carefully. I'd read everything he'd written and then at the very end of the interview, he says the whole history of the West can be summed up in the phrase, Corruptio Optimi Pessima.He was quite fluent in Latin. The corruption of the best is the worst. And I thought, wait a minute, the whole history of the West? This is staggering. So, yes, I've been reflecting on it for a long time, but I think there are many ways to speak [00:19:00] about the incarnation, the idea that God is present and visible in the form of a human being, that God indeed is a human being in the person of Jesus Christ.One way is to think of it as a kind of nuclear explosion of religion. Religion had always been the placation of a god. Right? A sacrifice of some kind made to placate a god. Now the god is present. It could be you. Jesus is explicit about it, and I think that is the most important thing for Iman in reading the gospel, is that God appears to us as one another.Hmm. If you can put it, one another in the most general sense of that formula. So, that's explosive, right? I mean, religion, in a certain way, up to that moment, is society. It's the [00:20:00] integument of every society. It's the nature of the beast to be religious in the sense of having an understanding of how you're situated and in what order and with what foundation that order exists. It's not an intellectual thing. It's just what people do. Karl Barth says religion is a yoke. So, it has in a certain way exploded or been exploded at that moment but it will of course be re instituted as a religion. What else could happen? And so Ivan says, and this probably slim New Testament warrant for this, but this was his story, that in the very earliest apostolic church. They were aware of this danger, right? That Christ must be shadowed by "Antichrist," a term that Ivan was brave enough to use. The word just has a [00:21:00] terrible, terrible history. I mean, the Protestants abused the Catholics with the name of Antichrist. Luther rages against the Pope as antichrist.Hmm. And the word persists now as a kind of either as a sign of evangelical dogmatism, or maybe as a joke, right. When I was researching it, I came across a book called "How to Tell If Your Boyfriend Is The Antichrist." Mm-Hmm. It's kind of a jokey thing in a way, in so far as people know, but he dared to use it as to say the antichrist is simply the instituted Christ.Right. It's not anything exotic. It's not anything theological. It's the inevitable worldly shadow of there being a Christ at all. And so that's, that's the beginning of the story. He, he claims that the church loses sight of this understanding, loses sight of the basic [00:22:00] complementarity or contradiction that's involved in the incarnation in the first place.That this is something that can never be owned, something that can never be instituted, something that can only happen again and again and again within each one. So, but heaven can never finally come to earth except perhaps in a story about the end, right? The new heaven and the new earth, the new Jerusalem come down from heaven.Fine. That's at the end, not now. So that's the gist of what he, what he said. He has a detailed analysis of the stages of that journey, right? So, within your theme of hospitality the beginnings of the church becoming a social worker in the decaying Roman Empire. And beginning to develop institutions of hospitality, [00:23:00] places for all the flotsam and jetsam of the decaying empire.And then in a major way from the 11th through the 13th century, when the church institutes itself as a mini or proto state, right? With a new conception of law. Every element of our modernity prefigured in the medieval church and what it undertook, according to Ivan. This was all news to me when he first said it to me.So yeah, the story goes on into our own time when I think one of the primary paradoxes or confusions that we face is that most of the people one meets and deals with believe themselves to be living after Christianity and indeed to great opponents of Christianity. I mean, nothing is more important in Canada now than to denounce residential schools, let's say, right? Which were [00:24:00] the schools for indigenous children, boarding schools, which were mainly staffed by the church, right?So, the gothic figure of the nun, the sort of vulpine, sinister. That's the image of the church, right? So you have so many reasons to believe that you're after that. You've woken up, you're woke. And, and you see that now, right? So you don't In any way, see yourself as involved in this inversion of the gospel which has actually created your world and which is still, in so many ways, you.So, leftists today, if I'm using the term leftists very, very broadly, "progressives," people sometimes say, "woke," people say. These are all in a certain way super Christians or hyper Christians, but absolutely unaware of themselves as Christians and any day you can read an analysis [00:25:00] which traces everything back to the Enlightenment.Right? We need to re institute the Enlightenment. We've forgotten the Enlightenment. We have to get back to the, right? There's nothing before the Enlightenment. The Enlightenment is the over, that's an earlier overcoming of Christianity, right? So modernity is constantly overcoming Christianity. And constantly forgetting that it's Christian.That these are the ways in which the Incarnation is working itself out. And one daren't say that it's bound to work itself out that way. Ivan will go as far as to say it's seemingly the will of God that it should work itself out that way. Right? Wow. So, that the Gospel will be preached to all nations as predicted at the end of the Gospels." Go therefore and preach to all nations," but it will not be preached in its explicit form. It will enter, as it were, through the [00:26:00] back door. So that's a very big thought. But it's a saving thought in certain ways, because it does suggest a way of unwinding, or winding up, this string of finding out how this happened.What is the nature of the misunderstanding that is being played out here? So. Chris: Wow. Yeah, I mean, I, I feel like what you just said was a kind of nuclear bomb unto its own. I remember reading, for example, James Hillman in The Terrible Love of War, and at the very end he essentially listed all, not all, but many of the major characteristics of modern people and said if you act this way, you are Christian.If you act this way, you are Christian. Essentially revealing that so much of modernity has these Christian roots. And, you know, you said in terms of this message and [00:27:00] corruption of the message going in through the back door. And I think that's what happens in terms of at least when we see institutions in the modern time, schools, hospitals, roads essentially modern institutions and lifestyles making their way into non modern places.And I'm very fascinated in this in terms of hospitality. You said that the church, and I think you're quoting Illich there, but " the church is a social worker." But also how this hospitality shows up in the early church and maybe even how they feared about what could happen as a result to this question of the incarnation.In your book it was just fascinating to read this that you said, or that you wrote, that "in the early years of Christianity it was customary in a Christian household to have an extra mattress, a bit of candle, and some dry bread in case the Lord Jesus should knock at the door in the form of a stranger without a roof, a form of behavior that was utterly [00:28:00] foreign to the cultures of the Roman Empire."In which many Christians lived. And you write, "you took in your own, but not someone lost on the street." And then later "When the emperor Constantine recognized the church, Christian bishops gained the power to establish social corporations." And this is, I think, the idea of the social worker. The church is a social worker.And you write that the first corporations they started were Samaritan corporations, which designated certain categories of people as preferred neighbors. For example, the bishops created special houses financed by the community that were charged with taking care of people without a home. Such care was no longer the free choice of the householder, it was the task of an institution.The appearance of these xenodocheia? Literally, quote, 'houses for foreigners' signified the beginning of a change in the nature of the church." And then of course you write and you mentioned this but "a gratuitous and truly [00:29:00] free choice of assisting the stranger has become an ideology and an idealism." Right. And so, this seems to be how the corruption of the Samaritan story, the corruption of breaking that threshold, or at least being able to cross it, comes to produce this incredible 'ought,' as you just kind of elaborated for us.And then this notion of, that we can't see it anymore. That it becomes this thing in the past, as you said. In other words, history. Right? And so my next question is a question that comes to some degree from our late mutual friend Gustavo, Gustavo Esteva. And I'd just like to preface it by a small sentence from An Intellectual Journey where he wrote that, "I think that limit, in Illich, is always linked to nemesis, or to what Jung calls [00:30:00] enantiodromia, his Greek word for the way in which any tendency, when pushed too far, can turn into its opposite. And so, a long time ago, Illich once asked Gustavo if he could identify a word that could describe the era after development, or perhaps after development's death.And Gustavo said, "hospitality." And so, much later, in a private conversation with Gustavo, in the context of tourism and gentrification, the kind that was beginning to sweep across Oaxaca at the time, some years ago, he told me that he considered "the sale of one's people's radical or local hospitality as a kind of invitation to hostility in the place and within the ethnos that one lives in."Another way of saying it might be that the subversion and absence of hospitality in a place breeds or can breed hostility.[00:31:00] I'm curious what you make of his comment in the light of limits, enantiodromia and the corruption that Illich talks about.David: Well I'd like to say one thing which is the thought I was having while you, while you were speaking because at the very beginning I mentioned a reservation a discomfort with words like perversion and corruption. And the thought is that it's easy to understand Illich as doing critique, right? And it's easy then to moralize that critique, right? And I think it's important that he's showing something that happens, right? And that I daren't say bound to happen, but is likely to happen because of who and what we are, that we will institutionalize, that we will make rules, that we will, right?So, I think it's important to rescue Ivan from being read [00:32:00] moralistically, or that you're reading a scold here, right? Hmm. Right. I mean, and many social critics are or are read as scolds, right? And contemporary people are so used to being scolded that they, and scold themselves very regularly. So, I just wanted to say that to rescue Ivan from a certain kind of reading. You're quoting Gustavo on the way in which the opening up of a culture touristically can lead to hostility, right? Right. And I think also commenting on the roots of the words are the same, right? "hostile," "hospice." They're drawing on the same, right?That's right. It's how one treats the enemy, I think. Hmm. It's the hinge. Hmm. In all those words. What's the difference between hospitality and hostility?[00:33:00] So, I think that thought is profound and profoundly fruitful. So, I think Gustavo had many resources in expressing it.I couldn't possibly express it any better. And I never answered you at the beginning how I met Gustavo, but on that occasion in 1988 when I was interviewing Illich, they were all gathered, a bunch of friends to write what was called The Development Dictionary, a series of essays trying to write an epilogue to the era of development.So, Gustavo, as you know, was a charming man who spoke a peculiarly beautiful English in which he was fluent, but somehow, you could hear the cadence of Spanish through it without it even being strongly accented. So I rejoiced always in interviewing Gustavo, which I did several times because he was such a pleasure to listen to.But anyway, I've digressed. Maybe I'm ducking your question. Do you want to re ask it or? Chris: Sure. [00:34:00] Yeah, I suppose. You know although there were a number of essays that Gustavo wrote about hospitality that I don't believe have been published they focused quite a bit on this notion of individual people, but especially communities putting limits on their hospitality.And of course, much of this hospitality today comes in the form of, or at least in the context of tourism, of international visitors. And that's kind of the infrastructure that's placed around it. And yet he was arguing essentially for limits on hospitality. And I think what he was seeing, although it hadn't quite come to fruition yet in Oaxaca, was that the commodification, the commercialization of one's local indigenous hospitality, once it's sold, or once it's only existing for the value or money of the foreigner, in a kind of customer service worldview, that it invites this deep [00:35:00] hostility. And so do these limits show up as well in Illich's work in terms of the stranger?Right? Because so much of the Christian tradition is based in a universal fraternity, universal brotherhood. David: I said that Ivan made sense to me in my youth, as a 22 year old man. So I've lived under his influence. I took him as a master, let's say and as a young person. And I would say that probably it's true that I've never gone anywhere that I haven't been invited to go.So I, I could experience that, that I was called to be there. And he was quite the jet setter, so I was often called by him to come to Mexico or to go to Germany or whatever it was. But we live in a world that is so far away from the world that might have been, let's say, the world that [00:36:00] might be.So John Milbank, a British theologian who's Inspiring to me and a friend and somebody who I found surprisingly parallel to Illich in a lot of ways after Ivan died and died I think feeling that he was pretty much alone in some of his understandings. But John Milbank speaks of the, of recovering the future that we've lost, which is obviously have to be based on some sort of historical reconstruction. You have to find the place to go back to, where the wrong turning was, in a certain way. But meanwhile, we live in this world, right? Where even where you are, many people are dependent on tourism. Right? And to that extent they live from it and couldn't instantly do without. To do without it would be, would be catastrophic. Right? So [00:37:00] it's it's not easy to live in both worlds. Right? To live with the understanding that this is, as Gustavo says, it's bound to be a source of hostility, right?Because we can't sell what is ours as an experience for others without changing its character, right, without commodifying it. It's impossible to do. So it must be true and yet, at a certain moment, people feel that it has to be done, right? And so you have to live in in both realities.And in a certain way, the skill of living in both realities is what's there at the beginning, right? That, if you take the formula of the incarnation as a nuclear explosion, well you're still going to have religion, right? So, that's inevitable. The [00:38:00] world has changed and it hasn't changed at the same time.And that's true at every moment. And so you learn to walk, right? You learn to distinguish the gospel from its surroundings. And a story about Ivan that made a big impression on me was that when he was sent to Puerto Rico when he was still active as a priest in 1956 and became vice rector of the Catholic University at Ponce and a member of the school board.A position that he regarded as entirely political. So he said, "I will not in any way operate as a priest while I'm performing a political function because I don't want these two things to get mixed up." And he made a little exception and he bought a little shack in a remote fishing village.Just for the happiness of it, he would go there and say mass for the fishermen who didn't know anything about this other world. So, but that was[00:39:00] a radical conviction and put him at odds with many of the tendencies of his time, as for example, what came to be called liberation theology, right?That there could be a politicized theology. His view was different. His view was that the church as "She," as he said, rather than "it," had to be always distinguished, right? So it was the capacity to distinguish that was so crucial for him. And I would think even in situations where tourism exists and has the effect Gustavo supposed, the beginning of resistance to that and the beginning of a way out of it, is always to distinguish, right?To know the difference, which is a slim read, but, but faith is always a slim read and Ivan's first book, his first collection of published essays was [00:40:00] called Celebration of Awareness which is a way of saying that, what I call know the difference. Chris: So I'm going to, if I can offer you this, this next question, which comes from James, a friend in Guelph, Canada. And James is curious about the missionary mandate of Christianity emphasizing a fellowship in Christ over ethnicity and whether or not this can be reconciled with Illich's perhaps emphatic defense of local or vernacular culture.David: Well, yeah. He illustrates it. I mean, he was a worldwide guy. He was very far from his roots, which were arguably caught. He didn't deracinate himself. Hmm. He was with his mother and brothers exiled from Split in Dalmatia as a boy in the crazy atmosphere of the Thirties.But he was a tumbleweed after [00:41:00] that. Mm-Hmm. . And so, so I think we all live in that world now and this is confuses people about him. So, a historian called Todd Hart wrote a book still really the only book published in English on the history of CIDOC and Cuernavaca, in which he says Illich is anti-missionary. And he rebukes him for that and I would say that Ivan, on his assumptions cannot possibly be anti missionary. He says clearly in his early work that a Christian is a missionary or is not a Christian at all, in the sense that if one has heard the good news, one is going to share it, or one hasn't heard it. Now, what kind of sharing is that? It isn't necessarily, "you have to join my religion," "you have to subscribe to the following ten..." it isn't necessarily a catechism, it may be [00:42:00] an action. It may be a it may be an act of friendship. It may be an act of renunciation. It can be any number of things, but it has to be an outgoing expression of what one has been given, and I think he was, in that sense, always a missionary, and in many places, seeded communities that are seeds of the new church.Right? He spent well, from the time he arrived in the United States in 51, 52, till the time that he withdrew from church service in 68, he was constantly preaching and talking about a new church. And a new church, for him, involved a new relation between innovation and tradition. New, but not new.Since, when he looked back, he saw the gospel was constantly undergoing translation into new milieu, into new places, into new languages, into new forms.[00:43:00] But he encountered it in the United States as pretty much in one of its more hardened or congealed phases, right? And it was the export of that particular brand of cultural and imperialistic, because American, and America happened to be the hegemon of the moment. That's what he opposed.The translation of that into Latin America and people like to write each other into consistent positions, right? So, he must then be anti missionary across the board, right? But so I think you can be local and universal. I mean, one doesn't even want to recall that slogan of, you know, "act locally, think globally," because it got pretty hackneyed, right?And it was abused. But, it's true in a certain way that that's the only way one can be a Christian. The neighbor, you said it, I wrote it, Ivan said it, " the neighbor [00:44:00] can be anyone." Right?But here I am here now, right? So both have to apply. Both have to be true. It's again a complementary relation. And it's a banal thought in a certain way, but it seems to be the thought that I think most often, right, is that what creates a great deal of the trouble in the world is inability to think in a complementary fashion.To think within, to take contradiction as constituting the world. The world is constituted of contradiction and couldn't be constituted in any other way as far as we know. Right? You can't walk without two legs. You can't manipulate without two arms, two hands. We know the structure of our brains. Are also bilateral and everything about our language is constructed on opposition.Everything is oppositional and yet [00:45:00] when we enter the world of politics, it seems we're going to have it all one way. The church is going to be really Christian, and it's going to make everybody really Christian, or communist, what have you, right? The contradiction is set aside. Philosophy defines truth as the absence of contradiction.Hmm. Basically. Hmm. So, be in both worlds. Know the difference. Walk on two feet. That's Ivan. Chris: I love that. And I'm, I'm curious about you know, one of the themes of the podcast is exile. And of course that can mean a lot of things. In the introduction to An Intellectual Journey, you wrote that that Illich, "once he had left Split in the 30s, that he began an experience of exile that would characterize his entire life."You wrote that he had lost "not just the home, but the very possibility [00:46:00] of home." And so it's a theme that characterizes as well the podcast and a lot of these conversations around travel, migration, tourism, what does it mean to be at home and so, this, This notion of exile also shows up quite a bit in the Christian faith.And maybe this is me trying to escape the complementarity of the reality of things. But I tend to see exile as inherently I'll say damaging or consequential in a kind of negative light. And so I've been wondering about this, this exilic condition, right? It's like in the Abrahamic faith, as you write "Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all begin in exile.And eventually this pattern culminates. Jesus is executed outside the gates of the city, nailed to a cross that excludes him even from his native earth." And you write that "exile is in many ways the [00:47:00] Christian condition." And so, you know, I've read that in the past, Christian monks often consider themselves to be homeless, removed from the sort of daily life of the local community in the monasteries and abbeys and yet still of a universal brotherhood. And so I'd like to ask you if you feel this exilic condition, which seems to be also a hallmark of modernity, this kind of constant uprooting this kind of as I would call it, cultural and spiritual homelessness of our time, if you think that is part of the corruption that Illich based his work around?David: Well, one can barely imagine the world in which Abram, who became Abraham said to God, no, I'm staying in Ur. Not going, I'm not going. Right? I mean, if you go back to Genesis and you re read that passage, when God shows [00:48:00] Abraham the land that he will inherit, it says already there, "there were people at that time living in the land," right?Inconvenient people, as it turns out. Palestinians. So, there's a profound contradiction here, I think. And the only way I think you can escape it is to understand the Gospel the way Ivan understood it, which is as something super added to existing local cultures, right? A leaven, right?Hmm. Not everything about a local culture or a local tradition is necessarily good. Mm hmm. And so it can be changed, right? And I would say that Illich insists that Christians are and must be missionaries. They've received something that they it's inherent in what they've [00:49:00] received that they pass it on.So the world will change, right? But Ivan says, this is in Rivers North of the Future, that it's his conviction that the Gospel could have been preached without destroying local proportions, the sense of proportion, and he put a great weight on the idea of proportionality as not just, a pleasing building or a pleasing face, but the very essence of, of how a culture holds together, right, that things are proportioned within it to one another that the gospel could have been preached without the destruction of proportions, but evidently it wasn't, because the Christians felt they had the truth and they were going to share it. They were going to indeed impose it for the good of the other.So, I think a sense of exile and a sense of home are as [00:50:00] necessary to one another as in Ivan's vision of a new church, innovation, and tradition, or almost any other constitutive couplet you can think of, right? You can't expunge exile from the tradition. But you also can't allow it to overcome the possibility of home.I mean, Ivan spoke of his own fate as a peculiar fate, right? He really anticipated the destruction of the Western culture or civilization. I mean, in the sense that now this is a lament on the political right, mainly, right? The destruction of Western civilization is something one constantly hears about.But, he, in a way, in the chaos and catastrophe of the 30s, already felt the death of old Europe. And even as a boy, I think, semi consciously at least, took the roots inside himself, took them with him [00:51:00] and for many people like me, he opened that tradition. He opened it to me. He allowed me to re inhabit it in a certain way, right?So to find intimations of home because he wasn't the only one who lost his home. Even as a man of 78, the world in which I grew up here is gone, forgotten, and to some extent scorned by younger people who are just not interested in it. And so it's through Ivan that I, in a way, recovered the tradition, right?And if the tradition is related to the sense of home, of belonging to something for good or ill, then that has to be carried into the future as best we can, right? I think Ivan was searching for a new church. He didn't think. He had found it. He didn't think he knew what it was.I don't think he [00:52:00] described certain attributes of it. Right. But above all, he wanted to show that the church had taken many forms in the past. Right. And it's worldly existence did not have to be conceived on the model of a monarchy or a parish, right, another form that he described in some early essays, right.We have to find the new form, right? It may be radically non theological if I can put it like that. It may not necessarily involve the buildings that we call churches but he believed deeply in the celebrating community. As the center, the root the essence of social existence, right? The creation of home in the absence of home, or the constant recreation of home, right? Since I mean, we will likely never again live in pure [00:53:00] communities, right? Yeah. I don't know if pure is a dangerous word, but you know what I mean?Consistent, right? Closed. We're all of one kind, right? Right. I mean, this is now a reactionary position, right? Hmm. You're a German and you think, well, Germany should be for the Germans. I mean, it can't be for the Germans, seemingly. We can't put the world back together again, right?We can't go back and that's a huge misreading of Illich, right? That he's a man who wants to go back, right? No. He was radically a man who wanted to rediscover the future. And rescue it. Also a man who once said to hell with the future because he wanted to denounce the future that's a computer model, right? All futures that are projections from the present, he wanted to denounce in order to rediscover the future. But it has to be ahead of us. It's not. And it has to recover the deposit that is behind us. So [00:54:00] both, the whole relation between past and future and indeed the whole understanding of time is out of whack.I think modern consciousness is so entirely spatialized that the dimension of time is nearly absent from it, right? The dimension of time as duration as the integument by which past, present and future are connected. I don't mean that people can't look at their watch and say, you know, "I gotta go now, I've got a twelve o'clock." you know.So, I don't know if that's an answer to James.Chris: I don't know, but it's food for thought and certainly a feast, if I may say so. David, I have two final questions for you, if that's all right, if you have time. Okay, wonderful. So, speaking of this notion of home and and exile and the complementarity of the two and you know you wrote and [00:55:00] spoke to this notion of Illich wanting to rediscover the future and he says that "we've opened a horizon on which new paradigms for thought can appear," which I think speaks to what you were saying and At some point Illich compares the opening of horizons to leaving home on a pilgrimage, as you write in your book."And not the pilgrimage of the West, which leads over a traveled road to a famed sanctuary, but rather the pilgrimage of the Christian East, which does not know where the road might lead and the journey end." And so my question is, What do you make of that distinction between these types of pilgrimages and what kind of pilgrimage do you imagine might be needed in our time?David: Well, I, I mean, I think Ivan honored the old style of pilgrimage whether it was to [00:56:00] Canterbury or Santiago or wherever it was to. But I think ivan's way of expressing the messianic was in the word surprise, right? One of the things that I think he did and which was imposed on him by his situation and by his times was to learn to speak to people in a way that did not draw on any theological resource, so he spoke of his love of surprises, right? Well, a surprise by definition is what you don't suspect, what you don't expect. Or it couldn't be a surprise.So, the The cathedral in Santiago de Compostela is very beautiful, I think. I've only ever seen pictures of it, but you must expect to see it at the end of your road. You must hope to see it at the end of your road. Well the surprise is going to be something else. Something that isn't known.[00:57:00] And it was one of his Great gifts to me that within the structure of habit and local existence, since I'm pretty rooted where I am. And my great grandfather was born within walking distance of where I am right now. He helped me to look for surprises and to accept them also, right?That you're going to show up or someone else is going to show up, right? But there's going to be someone coming and you want to look out for the one who's coming and not, but not be at all sure that you know who or what it is or which direction it's coming from. So, that was a way of life in a certain way that I think he helped others within their limitations, within their abilities, within their local situations, to see the world that way, right. That was part of what he did. Chris: Yeah, it's really beautiful and I can [00:58:00] see how in our time, in a time of increasing division and despondency and neglect, fear even, resentment of the other, that how that kind of surprise and the lack of expectation, the undermining, the subversion of expectation can find a place into perhaps the mission of our times.And so my final question comes back to friendship. and interculturality. And I have one final quote here from An Intellectual Journey, which I highly recommend everyone pick up, because it's just fascinating and blows open so many doors. David: We need to sell a few more books, because I want that book in paperback. Because I want it to be able to live on in a cheaper edition. So, yes. Chris: Of course. Thank you. Yeah. Please, please pick it up. It's worth every penny. So in An Intellectual Journey, it is written[00:59:00] by Illich that "when I submit my heart, my mind, my body, I come to be below the other. When I listen unconditionally, respectfully, courageously, with the readiness to take in the other as a radical surprise, I do something else. I bow, bend over toward the total otherness of someone. But I renounce searching for bridges between the other and me, recognizing that a gulf separates us.Leaning into this chasm makes me aware of the depth of my loneliness, and able to bear it in the light of the substantial likeness between the Other and myself. All that reaches me is the Other in His Word, which I accept on faith."And so, David at another point in the biography you quote Illich describing faith as foolish. Now assuming that faith elicits a degree of danger or [01:00:00] betrayal or that it could elicit that through a kind of total trust, is that nonetheless necessary to accept the stranger or other as they are? Or at least meet the stranger or other as they are? David: I would think so, yeah. I mean the passage you've quoted, I think to understand it, it's one of the most profound of his sayings to me and one I constantly revert to, but to accept the other in his word, or on his word, or her word, is, I think you need to know that he takes the image of the word as the name of the Lord, very, very seriously, and its primary way of referring to the Christ, is "as the Word."Sometimes explicitly, sometimes not explicitly, you have to interpret. So, when he says that he renounces looking for bridges, I think he's mainly referring [01:01:00] to ideological intermediations, right, ways in which I, in understanding you exceed my capacity. I try to change my name for you, or my category for you, changes you, right?It doesn't allow your word. And, I mean, he wasn't a man who suffered fools gladly. He had a high regard for himself and used his time in a fairly disciplined way, right? He wasn't waiting around for others in their world. So by word, what does he mean?What is the other's word? Right? It's something more fundamental than the chatter of a person. So, I think what that means is that we can be linked to one another by Christ. So that's [01:02:00] the third, right? That yes, we're alone. Right? We haven't the capacity to reach each other, except via Christ.And that's made explicit for him in the opening of Aylred of Riveau's Treatise on Friendship, which was peculiarly important to him. Aylred was an abbot at a Cistercian monastery in present day Yorkshire, which is a ruin now. But he wrote a treatise on friendship in the 12th century and he begins by addressing his brother monk, Ivo, and says, you know, " here we are, you and I, and I hope a third Christ."So, Christ is always the third, right? So, in that image of the gulf, the distance, experiencing myself and my loneliness and yet renouncing any bridge, there is still a word, the word, [01:03:00] capital W, in which a word, your word, my word, participates, or might participate. So, we are building, according to him, the body of Christ but we have to renounce our designs on one another, let's say, in order to do that. So I mean, that's a very radical saying, the, the other in his word and in another place in The Rivers North of the Future, he says how hard that is after a century of Marxism or Freudianism, he mentions. But, either way he's speaking about my pretension to know you better than you know yourself, which almost any agency in our world that identifies needs, implicitly does. I know what's best for you. So Yeah, his waiting, his ability to wait for the other one is, is absolutely [01:04:00] foundational and it's how a new world comes into existence. And it comes into existence at every moment, not at some unimaginable future when we all wait at the same time, right? My friend used to say that peace would come when everybody got a good night's sleep on the same night. It's not very likely, is it? Right, right, right. So, anyway, there we are. Chris: Wow. Well, I'm definitely looking forward to listening to this interview again, because I feel like just like An Intellectual Journey, just like your most recent book my mind has been, perhaps exploded, another nuclear bomb dropped.David: Chris, nice to meet you. Chris: Yeah, I'll make sure that that book and, of course, links to yours are available on the end of the website. David: Alright, thank you. Chris: Yeah, deep bow, David. Thank you for your time today. David: All the best. And thank you for those questions. Yeah. That was that was very interesting. You know, I spent my life as an interviewer. A good part of my [01:05:00] life. And interviewing is very hard work. It's much harder than talking. Listening is harder than talking. And rarer. So, it's quite a pleasure for me, late in life, to be able to just let her rip, and let somebody else worry about is this going in the right direction? So, thank you. Get full access to ⌘ Chris Christou ⌘ at chrischristou.substack.com/subscribe
Something that has been on my mind lately is how different/tricky/challenging it can be to make friends in your thirties. Post college, outside of set-for-you communities, life can start to feel a little lonely which is exactly why I invited my friend, Molly Baker, on the podcast to chat all things friendship-related. Molly has one of the best set of friends I've seen that ranges from lifers to brand new – it's actually incredible. Here's to hoping this conversation sparks a new friendship in your life as you listen! @missmollzzz on Instagram PARTNERSHIPS – A21 - A21 is a global anti-human trafficking organization that exists to abolish slavery everywhere. With offices around the world, A21 is driven by a radical hope that the cycle of human trafficking can be broken by reaching communities with lifesaving awareness materials, partnering with local and national law enforcement in rescue operations, and providing holistic restorative care for survivors of human trafficking in Freedom Centers worldwide. Learn more at A21.org Branch Basics - Branch Basics all-natural cleaning products are human-safe, non-toxic, as well as free of fragrance, hormone disruptors, and harmful preservatives. The products actually clean well without sacrificing the health of yourself, family and pets in your home. Plus the beauty is once you run out, you have everything you need to refill your bottle reducing plastic waste (the environment thanks you). Visit branchbasics.com and use promo code NIKKIDUTTON for 15% off all starter kits (except the trial kit). ______________________________________ I'd love to hear from you! Email me at hello@nikkidutton.com @morewithnikkidutton on Instagram nikkidutton.com As always, incredible sound editing by Luke Wilson at Veritas Podcasting
This week Dr. Aaron Rock continues his series on wisdom for different life stages and tackles the 30s. Learn 11 things you should know and do to live well for God's glory in your 30s. More Resources: More resources at Beachhead Media's website: https://beachheadmedia.ca/ Beachhead Media YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTRwY4I8_rSQ7Z6I05k8lkA
This week Dr. Aaron Rock continues his series on wisdom for different life stages and tackles the 30s. Learn 11 things you should know and do to live well for God's glory in your 30s. More Resources: More resources at Beachhead Media's website: https://beachheadmedia.ca/ Beachhead Media YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTRwY4I8_rSQ7Z6I05k8lkA
This week Dr. Aaron Rock continues his series on wisdom for different life stages and tackles the 30s. Learn 11 things you should know and do to live well for God's glory in your 30s. More Resources: More resources at Beachhead Media's website: https://beachheadmedia.ca/ Beachhead Media YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTRwY4I8_rSQ7Z6I05k8lkA
Join your hosts Katherine and Shelbi as they discuss loneliness that can creep into the 30s, sharing thoughts from day-to-day single life and experiences with shifting friendships as time passes.Quick Shifts, Big ChangesUnpacking Adiv's TikTok detailing their experience with loneliness as a 30-something in LASharing how friendships and social dynamics can change as people enter different stages of their 30s, but also how they can remain strong or evolve for the betterReflecting on how loneliness can be experienced by both single and partnered people as priorities and social interactions changeCommon Ground in Evolving LandscapesDiscussing the role that societal norms can play in the prioritization of friendship and making people feel otheredRespecting each others' unique circumstances in changing but cherished friendships, embracing curiosity and empathy to learn more about each others' new life chaptersRecognizing if someone's shifting priorities reduce the fulfillment of a friendshipEmbracing the Home that Holds YouUnderstanding the beauty, comfort, and fulfillment that can be found in having a home to yourself or sharing it with someone you loveNoting how the grass is rarely greener, and there are perks and pitfalls to being in both solo and partnered householdsAppreciating that while life is often sweeter with the right person by your side, there's a sweetness to be found in embracing whatever season of life one is in and finding the friends who support you through itQuestion of the Week:How have shifts in romantic relationship statuses in your circle shaped (or not shaped) the dynamics of your friendships?You can email us at tablepancakespod@gmail.com and leave us a voice memo here. We'd love it if you rated, reviewed, and subscribed to the show!Join the Table Pancakes Community on IG: @tablepancakespodStay in touch with us: @shelbihq & @katherinehfoster Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This episode is a full catch up of where I have been the last few weeks as well as a full reflection on turning 35! Officially mid thirties. The content in this episode is going to speak to SO many of us! Whether you are going through a transition or not, I think each of us struggle with a level of authenticity that we might not be aware of. This episode is jam packed and I cannot wait for you to listen to it!JUST MEATS: CARLY25 for additional $25.00 off your first order or 25% off PLUS $25 off on a subscription (if you see this before July 4th, use CARLY50 for 50% OFF!) https://get.aspr.app/SHaPd MY BOOK is back in stock!: https://carlyanndell.com/choose-crazy-over-easySUPERHUMAN APP: you can register HERE and use code CARLYANN for 6 WEEKS free! I have been using this app almost daily and cannot say enough amazing things about it! You must register on their website and not their app in order to redeem the 6 weeks free trial. VITALITY link and code:https://link.shopvitality.com/carlyanndell65q Free shipping and support code: VITALITYCARLYANN1ST PHORM link: https://1stphorm.com/CAM Free shipping over $75 Thank you in advance if you choose to support me through my links.If you would like to learn more about me or get in touch with me on other social media platforms, you can follow me on instagram @carlyanndell or you can visit my website to skim through some blogs, shop my favorites, grab some free shipping on products, and maybe look over a fitness guide or two at carlyanndell.com. As always, thank you for tuning in! Your feedback and reviews are greatly appreciated! Don't hesitate to reach out with any future topic ideas or any questions about already discussed topics. Make it a great day!
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The New York City based writer John Ganz appeared on episode 2099 talking about how American cracked up in the Nineties with the rise of neo-Nazis like David Duke. When it comes to national crack-ups, however, nothing much competes with Nazi Germany in the Thirties - and Ganz, as a grandson of German Jewish refugees from Nazism, recently travelled to Cologne to search for his family's bookstore. This trip, which Ganz describes in a Harper's piece, The Dead Admonish, is anything but cathartic. In contrast with other descendants of Jews returning to Germany like the British journalist John Kampfner, Ganz finds little reassuring about contemporary Germany. Strangely, the trip seems to have ignited a sense of Jewishness in the defiantly secular Ganz. The dead do, indeed, admonish. John Ganz is the author of When the Clock Broke: Con Men, Conspiracists, and How America Cracked Up in the Early 1990s, which was published last month by Farrar, Straus and Giroux. Michael Lipkin assisted with translating source material.Named as one of the "100 most connected men" by GQ magazine, Andrew Keen is amongst the world's best known broadcasters and commentators. In addition to presenting KEEN ON, he is the host of the long-running How To Fix Democracy show. He is also the author of four prescient books about digital technology: CULT OF THE AMATEUR, DIGITAL VERTIGO, THE INTERNET IS NOT THE ANSWER and HOW TO FIX THE FUTURE. Andrew lives in San Francisco, is married to Cassandra Knight, Google's VP of Litigation & Discovery, and has two grown children.Keen On is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit keenon.substack.com/subscribe
It's time to get your act together and pull your grades up. I had no direction after college and drifted along for several years, until I got my act together in my thirties with a steady job and good relationship. A: "Wait, you were in a minor car accident on your way to the job interview?" B: "Yeah, but I was able to get my act together before I went in. I think the interview actually went well!" My brother seriously needs to stop this messy behavior and get his act together. He's too old to be dating multiple women at the same time!
Today's poem is When I Was in My Early Thirties I Saw Elton John in a Nightclub in Atlanta Called Tongue and Groove by Khadijah Queen.The Slowdown is your daily poetry ritual. In this episode, guest host Leslie Sainz writes… “Today's poem transports us to a night out worth remembering, not for its intoxicating music or the surprise of a celebrity sighting, but because our response to disappointment can function as a measure of individual growth.” Celebrate the power of poems with a gift to The Slowdown today. Every donation makes a difference: https://tinyurl.com/rjm4synp
The first co-host to crack his thirties has hosted Daddy's Doof over the weekend, so we get stuck right into Cambo's 30th and what it entailed, including costumes such as criminals, cyclists and camouflage. Cooking With Daddy is back in the dry age game as both of the boys discuss great steak experiences they endured on the coast last week. Some absolute rippers in the Alpha News: items that have stopped bullets and a pringles addict included! A couple of great motivational clips that work well together before we rip in to the Doghouse again and hear a first for the ages during it. Enjoy your week trendsetters!Bought to you by Better Beer Zero Carb: www.betterbeer.com.au0:00 - Admin4:50 - Tom in the Coast9:55 - Cam's 30th19:57 - Cooking With Daddy29:54 - Alpha News55:23 - Motivation58:10 - The Doghouse Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
On this week's episode of LETS GET INTO IT we discuss aging gracefully with regard to our birthday celebrations. There once was a time - and we encourage this for our younger listeners - when we did the most. We celebrated for a month, dinners with multiple groups of people, bottle service and a section at the club, shots, etc. Do it while you can because let us tell you, once you hit your early mid 30s, it will all change. You will become more intentional, more chill, more okay with doing the least vs doing the most. So live it up for your birthday this year, whether that be a rager at the hottest club or an intimate dinner. It's your birthday, you can do what you want to! Special shout out to this episode's sponsors: State Farm, L., eBay, McDonalds, & Coca-cola! 00:20 A word from State Farm 00:54 Sarah has a revelation 1:33 Celebrating Birthdays differently in our 30s 7:44 A word from L. 8:54 A word from eBay 9:27 A word from State Farm 10:38 A word from Coca-Cola 11:13 A word from McDonald's 11:54 The celebration discussion continues 12:25 Iconic Hollywood Nights 14:52 9pm in jammies & slippers 19:08 Thank you State Farm!
Welcome back to BNB!! This week Christy and Anneliese are asked to share advice they wish they had when they were in their thirties. They talk about their beliefs in second first impressions, and address the Ashley Tisdale story that gained too much traction. They also spill their thoughts on the upcoming Beiber baby and new Office reboot. Why are Christy and Anneliese doing the podcast online? Which celebrity encounters did Christy and Anneliese find disappointing?? And how do we learn to have ‘fun at all costs'??? Thank you to this episode's sponsors! • L'Oréal Paris: : Order L'Oréal Paris Lash Paradise Mascara now on Amazon! • Honeylove: Get 20% OFF @honeylove by going to https://HoneyLove.com/BIG #honeylovepod #sponsored Follow us at @BigNameBitches on Instagram and TikTok, and subscribe on YouTube. Follow Christy Carlson Romano at @thechristycarlsonromano on Instagram and @christycarlsonromano on TikTok. Follow Anneliese van der Pol at @anneliesevanderpol on Instagram and @anneliesevdp on TikTok. You can watch the video version of this podcast on YouTube. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Welcome back to BNB!! This week Christy and Anneliese are asked to share advice they wish they had when they were in their thirties. They talk about their beliefs in second first impressions, and address the Ashley Tisdale story that gained too much traction. They also spill their thoughts on the upcoming Beiber baby and new Office reboot. Why are Christy and Anneliese doing the podcast online? Which celebrity encounters did Christy and Anneliese find disappointing?? And how do we learn to have ‘fun at all costs'??? Thank you to this episode's sponsors! • L'Oréal Paris: : Order L'Oréal Paris Lash Paradise Mascara now on Amazon! • Honeylove: Get 20% OFF @honeylove by going to https://HoneyLove.com/BIG #honeylovepod #sponsored Follow us at @BigNameBitches on Instagram and TikTok, and subscribe on YouTube. Follow Christy Carlson Romano at @thechristycarlsonromano on Instagram and @christycarlsonromano on TikTok. Follow Anneliese van der Pol at @anneliesevanderpol on Instagram and @anneliesevdp on TikTok. You can watch the video version of this podcast on YouTube. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
This episode is a showcase of one of the most profound client transformations I have had the pleasure to support. My client Kam's life looked very different two years ago when she first reached out to me for a consultation call. She was officially stuck in a rut. Just about to turn 30 she had a ‘good, stable' job she didn't like and had been debating leaving for a while, was in a relationship that she knew had no long-term future, was living at home with her parents and was struggling to see how she could get out of this situation to create a new future in her thirties. After reading books and podcasts about personal development in 2020, she decided that she actually wanted to start to actually implement some of the things she was reading about and make big life changes. That's what led her to coaching and to signing up to a 1:1 program. Fast forward two years, her life has done a complete 180. She ended her relationship, found a new job, bought her own place and moved out of her parents house and has spent the past year going on solo travel adventures and enjoying her life. Most of all the goal that she set, and is continuously working on, is having so much more life in her years, a mentality that Kam also has inspired me to adopt. All of these external results are cause for celebration, but as you will hear in the episode, the biggest change of all was her mindset. Kam took a long, hard look at her thoughts and used coaching tools to create a new internal narrative. Through coaching, she has learnt to enjoy the journey that is life, and to stop worrying so much about the destination. From panicking about being single and never meeting anyone, to now embracing her thirties and living a life on her terms, she is the perfect example of a Turning 30 success story. **This episode was originally aired in 2023 and is a reply whilst Emma is on maternity leave. Any offers promoted in the episode may no longer be relevant.** Caitlin: Emma: IG: @turning30coach Website: www.turning30coach.com Exhausted from dating but want to meet someone in your thirties? My brand new course NEXT CHAPTER IN LOVE : how to build your next chapter in love is opening IS NOW LIVE. This course is dedicated to helping you create the love life that you want in your thirties, embrace your single status, ditch the timelines and create a positive mindset in dating. Register for your next chapter in love here:
In this episode we're talking about 1930s song lyrics that have little to do with “cheek to cheek” and a lot to do with putting cheeks to other use. Warning! Strong language and heavy innuendos throughout this one. Very much NSFW.
It's been a while... did you miss us? Join us this week as we explore confidence and all the ways we have worked on developing it. We touch on confidence and it's relationship to our physical appearance, how confidence in early life affects us today, and much more. Plus, our friend, Single Rob, joins us for a discussion on dating, relationships and confidence.Join Rob's dating conversations on TikTokThis week's Top 8- Momofuku Chili Crunch- Forever Flowers- Acid for the Children by Flea- A Song for Achilles- French Lilacs- Jesus Saves I Spend Jewel Case- Studio Simonyi Brows- Beauty Counter Dewy Tinted MoisturizerNeed advice? Write us.Follow us on Instagram
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Dr Amanda Hanson worked for years as a clinical psychologist until pivoting to become a speaker, life coach and thought leader for women. Her brand Revolutionizing Midlife is about redefining and reclaiming what it means to be a woman and how we can refuse to subscribe to the aging ideals that dictate how women should be covering wrinkles with botox, dyeing their hair to cover up the greys, and to become less sexy and less outspoken as they mature. In this episode we delve into why women have been taught and signaled to think of aging as something negative and how we can start to shift this paradigm to revolutionise the way that we grow older. We discuss the difference between ‘Baby Princess' and ‘Queen Energy' and how to shift your energy and go out into the world each day feeling powerful and sexy (no matter your age). If you are ready to feel inspired about being in your thirties and growing older- this episode is for you! **This episode was originally aired in 2022 and is a reply whilst Emma is on maternity leave. Any offers promoted in the episode may no longer be relevant.** My brand new course NEXT CHAPTER IN LOVE : how to build your next chapter in love is opening IS NOW LIVE. This course is dedicated to helping you create the love life that you want in your thirties, embrace your single status, ditch the timelines and create a positive mindset in dating. Special launch price available until March 1st. Register for your next chapter in love here: Amanda: IG: https://www.instagram.com/midlife.muse/ Website: https://amandahanson.com/ Connect with me Instagram: @turning30coach / www.instagram.com/turning30coach YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/t30coach Website: www.turning30coach.com Email me your questions: emma@coachingwithemma.com
Join us this week for a friendly conversation where we cover everything from alien abduction to Emrata's divorce rings. Plus -is it a red flag if a 33yo woman has never lived alone? Will Haley be able to make it through a whole episode without succumbing to her hangover?Kanye is the Joker reference (start at 3 mins in) Top 8- Ouai Hair Gloss- The Good Patch- Maybelline Fit Me Foundation- Laneige Lip Sleeping Mask- Modern Vintage Player- B-Low The Belt- Clean 21- MyMind Follow us on Instagram Get advice
What would you say to your 25-year-old self? Or how about yourself 5 years ago? Today I share 3 things I'd tell my 25-year-old self, knowing what I know now. Join the House of the Mystic on Patreon Follow on Instagram and TikTok www.santacruzmountainreiki.com Join the conversation in our FREE Facebook Group: Spark Intention Podcast Family DISCLAIMER: This episode is intended for entertainment use only and does not seek to diagnose, shame, or discredit any one person or path. As always, you are encouraged to do your own research, use your own discernment, and formulate your own opinions regardless of ours or anyone else's.
What does it even mean to be in your mid-thirties? That's the question at hand this week as we dive into topics like dating younger men, the effects of mindset, and contentment with our life decisions. We also touch on the physical aspects of aging and speak with Recovering.Elizabeth about her experience with the "guess my age" TikTok trend. Plus -have you heard about Hailey Baldwin's sister's tampon fiasco? Watch Elizabeth's "guess my age" videoTop 8- Do Nothing- Dr. Dennis Gross Red Light Mask- Goop Glo Screen- SF Seconds irl clothing sale pop-ups- Hi Smile Toothpaste- Batsheva - A girl's trip- Nudestix highlighter
In celebration of one full year of podcasting we are doing a q&a! The questions you guys submitted went from making us laugh to really making us think! Thanks for listening and being here!
In this episode, Caroline sits down with the newly appointed President of the Nashville Podcast Network, Morgan Massengill. Morgan shares about her ten-year journey from unpaid Bobby Bones Show intern to becoming Bobby Bones' manager and President/Executive Producer of his podcast network. She discusses the hurdles she's overcome including heartbreaks and childhood trauma and how it has shaped her faith. Caroline and Morgan also weigh in on what makes a good celebrity, how to create a brand and more. Follow Get Real on IG: @GetRealCarolineHobby Follow Morgan Massengill @MorganMassengill Have a question for Caroline?? You can call in and she may answer on a future episode! Click hereSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
This episode is a heartfelt exploration of the transformative power of change and how we can turn trepidation into triumph. Paula offers practical tips for thriving amidst life's inevitable shifts, encouraging listeners to reframe their perspectives, visualize positive outcomes, and seek support. She emphasizes the importance of focusing on what we can control and celebrating our past victories as evidence of our resilience.As we sail through our thirties, Paula reminds us that change is not a disruptor but a chance to enrich our narratives. She delves into the distinction between passion and purpose and the profound benefits of aligning our lives with both. Sharing anecdotes of her own, Paula reveals how starting this podcast not only fulfilled a childhood dream but also unexpectedly enhanced her professional performance.This episode is your compass for embracing your multifaceted roles in life. Paula's pearls of wisdom will inspire you to view change as a stepping stone, reignite your childhood passions, and fully inhabit the diverse roles you play. Don't miss this transformative conversation that will leave you ready to embrace the magic of your passions and the potential of every change.Show NotesConnect with the Podcast:Host: Paula SandersPodcast: World's Your OystaWebsite & Newsletter: WYO PodcastProduced by Peoples Media Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
A one-off preview of a module from my brand new course Next Chapter in Love. Within the course, there are 27 self-study modules to help you transform your current love life, and this episode offers you an exclusive preview to one of the topics in the course. After working with hundreds of women in their thirties, a pattern I often see is how many people feel frustrated or disappointed about how their thirties were not as they expected them to be. When we hold on to a perception of how our lives ‘should look', it affects how we accept where we are right now- and when it comes to our love life, this can often show up in how we date and approach our relationships. In this solo episode I share my thoughts on how to accept the path that you are on, whilst also giving space to grieve the path never taken. This way, you can learn how to take healthy and conscious action steps to build your next chapter and break free from the past. My brand new course NEXT CHAPTER IN LOVE : how to build your next chapter in love is opening IS NOW LIVE. This course is dedicated to helping you create the love life that you want in your thirties, embrace your single status, ditch the timelines and create a positive mindset in dating. Special launch price available until end of February, Register for your next chapter in love here: Connect with me Instagram: @turning30coach / www.instagram.com/turning30coach YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/t30coach Website: www.turning30coach.com Email me your questions: emma@coachingwithemma.com If you loved this episode please subscribe to the Turning 30 Podcast on whichever platform you are listening on and rate us five stars!
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Part 2 is a deep-dive into the history of the Tenderloin, which we began toward the end of Part 1. Katie digs into the infamous Compton's Cafeteria Riot and shares the background and what lead to that fateful event. After the moral crusaders successfully passed new laws essentially controlling the lives of women, the Tenderloin bounced right back thanks to Prohibition, when the neighborhood's nightlife effectively went underground. Katie says that in the 1920s and Thirties, the TL was the glitzy, seedy nightlife capital of the Bay Area, replete with bars and restaurants, some of which doubled as gambling halls and brothels. Then came the 1940s, and World War II impacted all of San Francisco, especially the Tenderloin. Many servicemen were housed in SROs in the TL before leaving for the Pacific. This situation allowed gay members to explore their sexuality. And it was this that established SF as a Gay Mecca. Interestingly, the Army gave servicemembers a list of places not to go in the Tenderloin, and the smarter ones took that as a map of where to go. Then-Mayor George Christopher had it out for the TL. His brother had gotten into some trouble in the hood, and the mayor blamed the Tenderloin itself, calling it a blight and generally scapegoating the area. He led a crack-down on gambling, removed the cable cars, and created one-way streets. By the time the Fifties rolled around, many came to see the TL as a hood to get away from. But just a short decade or so later, in the 1960s, a significant migration of young people to The City began. Many queer folks landed in the TL and soon found that churches in the neighborhood were a safe haven, especially Glide Memorial Church. From this point in the story, Katie shifts briefly to discuss the museum's work with Susan Stryker, a trans historian and director of Screaming Queens: The Riot at Compton's Cafeteria (2005). Stryker rediscovered and wrote a history of the riot. She described Glide as a "midwife" to LGBTQ history in San Francisco. In the early Sixties, sex workers didn't have legal means of employment. Many of them frequented Compton's because it was one of the few places in town that served them. The joint was frequented by trans women, sex workers, and activists on most days. Then, in 1966, SF cops raided the place. The story goes that a trans woman poured hot coffee in a cop's face, and all hell broke loose. It came to be seen as a militant response to police harassment. Screaming Queens was the first public program at TLM. In 2018, the museum produced an immersive play about the riot called Aunt Charlie's: San Francisco's Working Class Drag Bar. Katie takes us on a sidebar about Aunt Charlie's, the last gay bar in left in the Tenderloin. TLM's plan was to produce play again in 2020, and they've been hard at work since the pandemic to bring it back. They now have a space on Larkin to produce play year-round, so, stay tuned. We end the podcast with a discussion about the new neon sign outside the museum. Katie explains that TLM is a fiscal sponsor of SF Neon, a non-profit doing neon sign restoration, walking tours, and other events. We recorded this podcast at the Tenderloin Museum in November 2023 and January 2024. Photography by Jeff Hunt
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