Podcasts about Neverland Ranch

Beneath the pixie dust and Neverland's enchantments lies a far darker tale, one born from the twisted imagination of J.M. Barrie whose real life Neverland looked like Jeffrey Epstein's island complete with his own Peter Pan like fixation on young boys. From Barrie's disturbing relationships to Peter Pan's link to the demon god Pan to satanist Aleister Crowley's worship of Pan as a symbol of Lucifer and even Michael Jackson's obsession with Peter Pan and Neverland Ranch, we're connecting the dots to uncover the truth behind the myth.  Follow Good Fight Ministries on: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/goodfightministries   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/goodfightministries   Twitter/X: https://www.twitter.com/goodfightmin   TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@goodfightministries  Support Us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/goodfight Hollywood's War on God https://vimeo.com/ondemand/hollywoodswarongod 

Baxie talks to Tex Mosley--the lead singer and guitar player from the Neverland Ranch Davidians! Their latest album “Shout it on the Mountain” is set for release on February 7th. It's the follow-up to their 2023 self-titled debut album which was praised by Iggy Pop, Henry Rollins, and Little Steven! It's a powerful combination of Punk, R&B, Soul, and Rockabilly. And it's just fantastic! Listen on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, and on the Rock102 app! Brought to you by Metro Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram in Chicopee

Today's guest was bound to happen. Meet Tex Mosely from Neverland Ranch Davidians. Tex and his band were suggested to me a couple of years ago by my friend Ian. I reached out and we tried to get everything to mesh but just couldn't make it work. A few years later, here we are.  Tex talks about growing up in Philly and having music all around him. His uncle was a professional bass player. Tex started playing guitar and even took lessons from jazz legend, Pat Martino! He began his life in music in Philly, but he eventually found his way to LA. He joined up with The Slaves and found favor with Concrete Blonde, one of my favorite bands. But after a while, rock and roll and substance abuse took its toll on him. But he found help, love, and safety back with his family in Philly.  After his recovery, Tex moved back to LA and joined a band called Neighborhood Bullys. They had such a good sound that they ended up being Suzi Quatro's band for her album In The Spotlight. But there's one odd thing about that recording and I'll let Tex tell that story. Tex's latest band is Neverland Ranch Davidians. It started off as a lo-fi project and wound up being his singing debut. He tells how he met the other band members, Max Hagen and Will Bentley and how he came up with the band name. Their sophomore release is out soon and it's an amalgamation of all Tex's influences (except maybe Pat Martino). It's called Shout It On The Mountain and that title tells it all. It's a rock album. That's it. Tex is a blast to talk with and shares great stories from his early days through the making of the new album. Pre-order it on Heavy Medication Records, buy the debut, and follow Neverland Ranch Davidians on the socials. You can't miss them. Follow us @PerformanceAnx, buy merch at performanceanx.threadless.com and send money through ko-fi.com/performanceanxiety. Now saddle up with Tex Mosely of Neverland Ranch Davidians on Performance Anxiety on the Pantheon Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Do you remember the time when we watched part 1, do you remember the time, when we first met gurrrl? Can I get a hee hee? Alex, Brett, Megan, Monica, and Prime return to Neverland Ranch to binge some MTV for the second leg of this elimination bracket, leaving off with "Remember the Time" from the end of Part 1. After many gut-wrenching, heart-palpitating decisions, we've finally crowned a winner of the Bracket. Enjoy this latest episode released from the Slime Vault! Unlock Bonus Content on Patreon Shop at our Splat Attack Merch Store Email Us: SplatAttack2021@gmail.com   YouTube: Splat Attack! Podcast Instagram: @SplatAttackPodcast Please leave us a review in your podcast app! 

Moonwalk to Neverland Ranch and let's watch some MTV! In our very first bracket-format episode, Alex and Brett tag team 28 music videos from The King of Pop's massive catalogue, along with their wives Megan and Monica and their good buddy and MJ expert, Prime of Prime Nostalgia Podcast. Since this proved to be a bigger undertaking than expected, we decided to split the episode into two so it can be more enjoyable in shorter sittings. Follow along at home with a pen and pad too, if you'd like and share your own votes with us! Thanks for tuning in, and we'll see you soon for the epic conclusion in Part 2. Enjoy this Patreon exclusive episode that has been released from the Slime Vault! *Correction: Despite Megan's memories, the Jam album she's referring to is actually MJ's Dangerous Album from 1991. Listen to Sam Robson's amazing “Earth Song” cover: https://youtu.be/n2hVgU3PjhU Check out Yuzoboy's MJ/Sonic mash-up songs, including the “Ending in Moscow” one demonstrated in this video: https://youtu.be/yZdiu84GS48 Splat you later! Unlock Bonus Content on Patreon Shop at our Splat Attack Merch Store Email Us: SplatAttack2021@gmail.com   YouTube: Splat Attack! Podcast Instagram: @SplatAttackPodcast Please leave us a review in your podcast app! 

  Riley Keough joins Chelsea to talk about loving and losing a non-traditional mother like Lisa Marie Presley, spending time at both Graceland and Neverland Ranch, and why it's good to know where you came from.  Then: A cousin wants to spill the beans about a secret sibling.  A groom-to-be worries that his best friend will drink too much at the wedding.  And a surrogacy gone awry leaves a mom-of-two feeling lost.  * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at DearChelseaPodcast@gmail.com * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  Riley Keough joins Chelsea to talk about loving and losing a non-traditional mother like Lisa Marie Presley, spending time at both Graceland and Neverland Ranch, and why it's good to know where you came from.  Then: A cousin wants to spill the beans about a secret sibling.  A groom-to-be worries that his best friend will drink too much at the wedding.  And a surrogacy gone awry leaves a mom-of-two feeling lost.  * Need some advice from Chelsea? Email us at DearChelseaPodcast@gmail.com * Executive Producer Catherine Law Edited & Engineered by Brad Dickert * * * * * The views and opinions expressed are solely those of the Podcast author, or individuals participating in the Podcast, and do not represent the opinions of iHeartMedia or its employees.  This Podcast should not be used as medical advice, mental health advice, mental health counseling or therapy, or as imparting any health care recommendations at all.  Individuals are advised to seek independent medical, counseling advice and/or therapy from a competent health care professional with respect to any medical condition, mental health issues, health inquiry or matter, including matters discussed on this Podcast. Guests and listeners should not rely on matters discussed in the Podcast and shall not act or shall refrain from acting based on information contained in the Podcast without first seeking independent medical advice.    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Looks Unfamiliar is a podcast in which writer and occasional broadcaster Tim Worthington talks to a guest about some of the things that they remember that nobody else ever seems to.Joining Tim this time for a suitably spooky chat is writer Steve Berry, who's hoping to dazzle the crowds at the village hall Halloween Disco with his knowledge of Words And Pictures' Witches Of Halloween, Smiths Horror Bags and Vincent Price's ill-fittingly horror-themed adverts for MB Games. Along the way we'll be questioning Richard Herring's historical sources for the story of St. Ian, asking Wittgenstein if he'd like a Dracula's Deadly Secret, pitching a combined biography of Henry Woolf, Wolfe Morris and Gabriel Woolf, estimating how many copies of MB Games' Voice Of The Mummy were piled up at Neverland Ranch and trying to work out exactly where a 'VHS Fonz' fits in to the Classic Horror tradition.You can find more editions of Looks Unfamiliar at timworthington.org. You can also find Steve on Looks Unfamiliar talking about Single Versions Of Pop Songs That Never Get Played Any More, Elastoplast Heroes, United States Of Television, Skoal Bandits, Starblazer Electronic Space Command Belt and Morning Has Broken here.If you enjoy Looks Unfamiliar, you can help to support the show by buying us a coffee here. They never did find a way of making it Dracula-themed. But you can bet they tried.

Lisa Marie Presley, the only child of Elvis Presley, was working on a memoir when she died in 2023. In From Here to the Great Unknown, actor Riley Keough details her mother's unusual life in Graceland. She also talks about grief and her own time at Neverland Ranch. Maureen Corrigan reviews the novel Shred Sisters by Betsy Lerner. Subscribe to Fresh Air's weekly newsletter and get highlights from the show, gems from the archive, and staff recommendations. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Lisa Marie Presley, the only child of Elvis Presley, was working on a memoir when she died in 2023. In From Here to the Great Unknown, actor Riley Keough details her mother's unusual life in Graceland. She also talks about grief and her own time at Neverland Ranch. Maureen Corrigan reviews the novel Shred Sisters by Betsy Lerner. Subscribe to Fresh Air's weekly newsletter and get highlights from the show, gems from the archive, and staff recommendations. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Legendary filmmaker, Barry Sonnenfeld takes Kelly behind the scenes of some of his greatest movies including, Men In Black, Get Shorty, Misery, and When Harry Met Sally. He dishes on working with Hollywood heavy hitters Will Smith, John Travolta, Gene Hackman, Tommy Lee Jones, Kathy Bates, Michael Jackson, James Caan and Rob Reiner, to name a few. Plus, hear about his unbelievable trips to the Neverland Ranch, Mar-a-Largo and a flight with Bob Iger that neither of them will ever forget. Buckle up!

Well, we hit a bit of a milestone with this show.  Not only has this been our most requested show subject, but we're also celebrating our 5-year anniversary!  Thank you to all of you that listen and give us your support, it means the world to us! Now, on to business… We've talked about royalty on our show, we've talked about people being the “greatest of all time” at their particular craft, but it's hard to deny that Michael Jackson earned his title as the “King of Pop”.  MJ dominated the airwaves from the time he was a kid in the Jackson 5, to creating some of the most recognizable hits in his solo career.  While his music and dancing inspired generations to come, there was a lot, and I mean a lot, of off-stage behavior that had people asking a lot of questions.  And some of those people were the police.  Did MJ get a fair shake in all this, after seemingly being guilty in the court of public opinion?  How did his childhood play into his odd behavior?  And what did that room smell like when Michael caught his hair on fire?  We'll dive into this and more in the Michael Jackson episode of AHC Podcast.       Intro Music Credits: Danya Vodovoz - Drive By Night Produced by Danya Vodovoz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgQZLqevhKc&list=PLq4r2IOXma9BSPbQZX4GUIxzbYpLo_-LJ&index=4 Royalty Free Music       Citations: Bertram, C. (2020, September 9). Michael Jackson: Inside his early years in Gary, Indiana with his musical family. https://www.biography.com/musicians/michael-jackson-growing-up-gary-indiana-jackson-5 Delloye, T. (2024, June 27). 15 years after Michael Jackson's death, a visceral minute-by-minute account of his final moments: He begged like a baby for more sedatives, then uttered his haunting last words... before hours of CPR left his ribs cracked. Daily Mail Online. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13568455/Michael-Jackson-death-final-words-revealed-anniversary.html Folino, T. B. (2023, July 24). Propofol. StatPearls [Internet]. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK430884/#:~:text=Propofol%20is%20an%20intravenous%20anesthetic,some%20combination%20of%20the%20two. McDonell-Parry, A. (2023, October 6). Michael Jackson child sexual abuse allegations: A timeline. Rolling Stone. https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/michael-jackson-child-sexual-abuse-allegations-timeline-785746/ Muturi, G. (2023, November 20). The story behind MJ's baby dangling. Beat. https://vocal.media/beat/the-story-behind-mj-s-baby-dangling Nick Allen, N. (2010, November 8). Michael Jackson “was addicted to surgery”, mother claims. The Telegraph. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/michael-jackson/8117889/Michael-Jackson-was-addicted-to-surgery-mother-claims.html Triggs, C. (2009, July 10). Inside story: Michael Jackson's plastic surgery. Peoplemag. https://people.com/celebrity/inside-story-michael-jacksons-plastic-surgery/ Wikimedia Foundation. (2024a, August 23). Neverland Ranch. Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverland_Ranch Wikimedia Foundation. (2024b, September 6). Michael Jackson. Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson Wikimedia Foundation. (2024c, September 6). Michael Jackson's Thriller (music video). Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson%27s_Thriller_(music_video) Wikimedia Foundation. (2024d, September 6). Thriller (album). Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_(album)

Elizabeth Taylor is remembered for her legendary screen performances, dedicated activism related to the AIDS cause, and keen business sense. But her accomplishments were sometimes overshadowed by the romantic entanglements of her personal life… relationships that earned her the title 'homewrecker' and at one point prompted the Pope to advocate Elizabeth's children be taken away from her. Our September theme is Breaking Up is Hard to Do, at our listeners' request, and who better to highlight than Hollywood screen star Elizabeth Taylor, who made even breaking up look easy.  Join us as we trace Liz's 8 marriages, including the scandalous affair with Richard Burton that the Pope denounced as “erotic vagrancy,” one relationship that ended due to abuse and another due to death, and the wedding that took place at Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch to a man 20 years younger. MID-ROLL AD: Thank you to listener Laura A. for her support of Scandal Water & to Brian for his top-of-the-episode shout-out!  The show is also available on your favorite podcast app and the Scandal Water Podcast YouTube channel.  You can support Scandal Water Podcast by rating, reviewing, and subscribing to the show. Even better, by visiting our website, scandalwaterpodcast.com, and becoming a member on Buy Me a Coffee, you will receive perks and access to bonus content. #elizabethtaylor #oldhollywood #s #vintage #hollywood #richardburton #paulnewman #liztaylor #cleopatra #breakingupishardtodo #September #breakup #romance #Wedding #marriage #love #divorce #family #DebbieReynolds #EddieFisher #CarrieFisher #podcast

California is having a ton of crazy wildfires right now and one is getting close to Neverland Ranch. So the guys dial up Michael Jackson to see if he is worried about the ranch. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

California is having a ton of crazy wildfires right now and one is getting close to Neverland Ranch. So the guys dial up Michael Jackson to see if he is worried about the ranch. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Buckle up, Dear Listener, as Writer, Producer, Director, Showrunner, and one-time MTV News Senior Writer Corey Moss regales us with tales of interviewing rock icons Green Day, The Pixies, and Weezer. He takes us to Neverland Ranch sans Michael Jackson, onto the set of the Dukes of Hazzard with Jessica Simpson, and in the studio with the former Mr. Britney Spears, Kevin Federline. And he tells us what it was like to be holding the mic for one of Kanye's most well-documented rants.

This turd-throwing chimp ran wild at Neverland Ranch while capturing hearts across the globe. He was prone to actin' up, however, there were often sinister reasons for this chimp's unsavory behavior and his beloved King of Pop was often to blame. If you like Lil Stinkers and want to support us, you can do so by going to Patreon.com/lilstinkers. For either $4/month or $40/year, you get every episode early, ad-free episodes Patreon exclusive episodes, Mini Stinkers episodes, live AMAs, live episodes, road trip vlogs, live book club meetings and all the other weirdo nonsense that we engage in. Thank you for making this fun. We appreciate you guys. Come see us in Boston on April 5: https://bit.ly/3tBhbA1 Come see us in Chicago on May 26: https://bit.ly/48ROD3N Follow us on Twitter and Instagram: Jon Delcollo: @jonnydelco Jake Mattera: @jakemattera Mike Rainey: @mikerainey82

This week, we talk about successful artists who blew it all with dumb decisions.  Youth, fame and amazing amounts of money – what could go wrong?  Our “Album You Must Hear Before You Die” is the wonderful Aladdin Sane, by David Bowie. The cover artwork, featuring a lightning bolt across his face is one of the best-known images in rock, while the album marks Bowie's tougher, heavier attempt to conquer America.    In Rock News, we hear about Gene Simmons, The Eagles, Iron Maiden, Journey, Judas Priest, Kansa, Lynard Skynyrd and ZZ Top, and raise the age-old question, “Why can't the members of KISS just get along?”  Enjoy   References:  David Bowie, “Aladdin Sane”, Ken Scott, The Jean Genie, Globite bag, George Best, MC Hammer, David Crosby, TLC, 50 Cent, Lauryn Hill, Fugees, “Killing Me Softly”, Meat Loaf, “Bat Out of Hell”, Ted Nugent, Billy Joel, Leif Garrett, Willie Nelson, Mick Fleetwood, Harry Nilsson, Michael Jackson, Peter Green, Bill Nighy, Billy Mack, Love Actually, Warren Zevon Episode Playlist - Fame is no guarantee against stupidityNickelback album ranking

Welcome to the first episode of the “What If” series, a show where we dive into our favorite “what if” scenarios in R&B and Hip Hop. For this episode, imagine this - Case and I hop in the time machine, land in 2002 and pull up to Neverland Ranch. We straight up tell MJ that he must have the Neptunes produce his next album. Now what happens after? Whose career skyrockets – MJ, The Neptunes, or JT? Who takes a hit? How does it shake up the whole music scene? Well, if you wanna know the answers, press play. Trust me, you don't wanna miss this one!  Follow us on IG: @musicisthelovelanguage @clintcoley @iam_case1 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's News Day Tuesday! Sam and Emma break down the biggest headlines of the day. We'll also be joined by Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_dc). First, Sam and Emma run through updates on Donald Trump's ballot appeal, Blinken's visit to Israel, the mass arrest at Pro-Palestine protests in NYC, GOP infighting and a looming government shutdown, global warming, Nikki Haley's rise, the battle over Mayorkas, and Twitter's journalist purge, before diving into Biden supporters' problematic response to a Pro-Palestine protest. Mark Joseph Stern then joins, diving right into the focus on the 14th Amendment's Section III in Donald Trump's ongoing ballot-access case, with both Colorado and Maine citing it for their exclusion of him from both primary and general election ballots, parsing through the details of the clause, and the dependence of a congressional vote to reallow any insurrectionists to run for office. Expanding on this, Stern parses through the various legal (and more likely, political) avenues Trump's legal team could take, and where the various conservative – yet supposedly originalist – Supreme Court justices might land. Next, they look into the ongoing Supreme Court case around Idaho's near-total abortion ban, including SCOTUS overturning a stay on the ban, and how the ban weaponizes punitive measures against both doctors and patients. Sam and Emma also cover Mike Johnson's total ripoff of Kevin McCarthy's speakership, a new ruling on the gig economy, and Twitter's most recent round of anti-journalist suspensions. And in the Fun Half: Sam and Emma tackle the importance of voting this year – with a shout to Olayemi Olurin's recent video – Missouri's Secretary of State attempts to turn whataboutism into a legal argument to ban Biden from the ballot, and the crew tackles Israeli politician Ofer Cassif joining South Africa's case charging Israel with crimes of genocide. Alex Jones, Jimmy Dore, and Eric Adams give their low-level supervillain takes on immigration, and Donald Trump goes on Lindell TV to take down the idea of climate change. Miguel from Arkansas discusses the role of Kamala Harris moving forward, Mel from Texas gives some updates on the evolution of college admissions amidst attacks on higher education, and Jon Does from Tampa and Michigan tackles military service and Biden's electoral problems, respectively. The Tim Pool compound goes Neverland Ranch, plus, your calls and IMs! Check out Mark's work here: https://slate.com/author/mark-joseph-stern Become a member at JoinTheMajorityReport.com: https://fans.fm/majority/join Gift a Majority Report subscription here: https://fans.fm/majority/gift Subscribe to the ESVN YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/esvnshow Subscribe to the AMQuickie newsletter here: https://am-quickie.ghost.io/ Join the Majority Report Discord! http://majoritydiscord.com/ Get all your MR merch at our store: https://shop.majorityreportradio.com/ Get the free Majority Report App!: http://majority.fm/app Check out today's sponsors: Liquid IV: Revive yourself for the New Year. Grab your Liquid I.V. Hydration Multiplier Sugar-Free in bulk nationwide at Costco or get 20% off your first order when you go to https://liquidiv.com/majorityrep at checkout. That's 20% off your first order when you shop better hydration today using promo code MAJORITYREP at https://liquidiv.com. Follow the Majority Report crew on Twitter: @SamSeder @EmmaVigeland @MattLech @BradKAlsop Check out Matt's show, Left Reckoning, on Youtube, and subscribe on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/leftreckoning Check out Matt Binder's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/mattbinder Subscribe to Brandon's show The Discourse on Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ExpandTheDiscourse Check out Ava Raiza's music here! https://avaraiza.bandcamp.com/ The Majority Report with Sam Seder - https://majorityreportradio.com/

As you'll see with Selena next week, this season was unintentionally a season full of girl on girl crime! We had Lewinsky vs Tripp, Harding vs Kerrigan and next week we'll hear about the murder of the "Queen of Tejano Music", Selena Quintanilla, by her jealous fangirl Yolanda Saldívar.This episode is not filled with girl on girl crime though, it's in fact a story of man on boy crime. Starting with Joe Jackson abusing his children into musical perfection with "The Jackson 5", through Michael's abuse of multiple young boys at his Neverland Ranch.**We're trying to bring more attention to the abuse and mental health issues of boys and men, opening people's eyes to the prevalence of these things, and joining the fight to reduce stigma. Check out our episodes with "Love is Blind" season 2's Nick Thompson and actor and activist Jon Snow to hear stories of resilience from some amazing men.✨If you'd like access to over 125 episodes that aren't on the regular feed, and you'd like them all ad free, join our Patreon for as little as $5 a month! There is actually now a new FREE version that you can try with no commitment! https://www.patreon.com/TSFU

In this episode, B-Word and Jake talk about musicians with controversy: can you separate the art from the artist? Also, they discussion Michael Jackson, the documentary "Leaving Neverland," and rank the best of Michael Jackson.Intro: Brandon Sprague of 1080 the FanPromo: Whiskey Hell Podcast & Pubtime PodcastAd: Order from JerkyPro with code bleachbros5 at checkoutFor Bleach Bros' socials, links, and streaming sites:https://bleachbros.comhttps://www.linktr.ee/bleachbrospodcastFor exclusive Bleach Bros content:https://www.patreon.com/bleachbrospodJoin the conversation in our FREE Discord server:https://discord.com/invite/BbYjgAGDH6Bleach Bros Podcast is a Spreaker Prime podcast. For more information: https://try.spreaker.com/prime-program/This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5676795/advertisement

The explosive definitive account of the Michael Jackson saga, chronicling the King of Pop's battles against child molestation charges from 1993 to 2005, from award-winning journalist Diane Dimond, who broke the story first, over twelve years ago Michael Jackson has long captured the world's attention, first as the dynamic lead singer of the Jackson Five, then during his highly successful breakout solo career. But somewhere along the line Jackson transformed himself into something hardly recognizable and was investigated - not once, but twice - for crimes we could hardly imagine. Even now, after his unexpected acquittal on multiple charges of child molestation, there is a sense that the real truth behind the allegations is not known. The character of Michael Jackson - from his humble beginnings to his rich career and the birth of Neverland Ranch - is destined for great debate among fans, journalists, historians, and psychiatrists for years to come. In the meantime, there is Diane Dimond, the journalist of record on the Jackson case. In November 2003, when the Santa Barbara county sheriff's department conducted another raid on Neverland Ranch, Diane Dimond and her camera crews were the only ones there to capture the moment and report the news to the world. Now, for the first time, Dimond recounts the multifaceted details of the Jackson case, utilizing her extensive notes and sources. What she tells us is a shocking story. Be Careful Who You Love will take you behind the scenes and into the courtroom of one of the most controversial cases of the decade, while giving readers a dramatic glimpse of one reporter's vigilance and unending quest to uncover the truth.This show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/1198501/advertisement

00:00 - Welcome to the show!! 00:15 - Taking shots at GWAR 05:55 - Alex Jones is a liberal 07:22 - Labor Day recap, September is upon us 13:20 - Crackers and Rednecks 24:17 - Cosmic brownie playground 26:10 - Michael Jackson had very special needs on Neverland Ranch 30:56 - Will is shootin up! Do H, not Oxy! 35:15 - Drunk lady gets kicked out of comedy show! 44:08 - Comedian smokes crack live! 50:25 - Find your drug 54:12 - Will is paying for Dr. Kegel

In this episode I speak about watching two Broadway Musicals: MJ and Back to the Future!  I also speak about watching the HBO series, Succession and wrap it up with another addition to our legendary segment “GOATs doing GOAT $hit” where we celebrate the true champions of greatness and highlight the phenomenal achievements of extraordinary individuals.   The Spun Today Podcast is a Podcast that is anchored in Writing, but unlimited in scope.  Give it a whirl.    Twitter: https://twitter.com/spuntoday Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spuntoday/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spuntoday    Website: http://www.spuntoday.com/home Newsletter: http://www.spuntoday.com/subscribe   Links referenced in this episode: MJ the Musical: https://newyork.mjthemusical.com/ Michael Jackson - Dangerous Diary MTV 1992 HD: https://youtu.be/OWC5uPK93fE?si=MQpzBldf_k9gqxoO   Back to the Future the Musical: https://www.backtothefuturemusical.com/new-york/   Succession: https://www.hbo.com/succession/season-1   Rebirth of a Bad Boy: Diddy Explains Handing Over Publishing Rights & Reveals His ‘Total Truth' https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/rebirth-of-a-bad-boy-diddy-explains-handing-over-publishing-rights-reveals-his-total-truth/ar-AA1gEX69   Get your Podcast Started Today! https://signup.libsyn.com/?promo_code=SPUN (Use Promo code SPUN and get up to 2-months of free service!)   Check out all the Spun Today Merch, and other ways to help support this show! https://www.spuntoday.com/support   Check out my Books: Make Way for You – Tips for getting out of your own way & FRACTAL – A Time Travel Tale http://www.spuntoday.com/books/ (e-Book & Paperback are now available).   Fill out my Spun Today Questionnaire if you're passionate about your craft.  I'll share your insight and motivation on the Podcast: http://www.spuntoday.com/questionnaire/    Shop on Amazon using this link, to support the Podcast: http://www.amazon.com//ref=as_sl_pc_tf_lc?&tag=sputod0c-20&camp=216797&creative=446321&linkCode=ur1&adid=104DDN7SG8A2HXW52TFB&&ref-refURL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spuntoday.com%2Fcontact%2F   Shop on iTunes using this link, to support the Podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewTop?genreId=38&id=27820&popId=42&uo=10   Shop at the Spun Today store for Mugs, T-Shirts and more: https://viralstyle.com/store/spuntoday/tonyortiz   Background Music: Autumn 2011 - Loxbeats   Outro Background Music: https://www.bensound.com   Spun Today Logo by: https://www.naveendhanalak.com/   Sound effects are credited to: http://www.freesfx.co.uk   Listen on: iTunes | Spotify | Stitcher | Pocket Casts | Google Podcasts | YouTube | Website   EPISODE TRANSCRIPT [00:00:00] What up? What up, folks? What's going on? Welcome to the Spun Today podcast, the only podcast that is anchored in writing, but unlimited in scope. I'm your host, Tony Ortiz, and I appreciate you listening. This is episode 243 of the Spun Today podcast. And in this episode, I speak about two Broadway musicals, which I can't believe I took this long to mention them, especially for one in particular. So definitely stay tuned for that. I also speak about watching the Succession Series. An HBO series that I was definitely late to, but had the added benefit of being late in that it allowed me to binge the entire series. And lastly, I wrap it up with another addition to our legendary segment goats doing goat shit where we celebrate the true champions of greatness and highlight the phenomenal achievements of extraordinary individuals. Stay tuned for all that good stuff. But first I wanted to tell you [00:01:00] guys about a. Quick way that you can help support the spun today podcast. Your support is greatly appreciated. Not only can it help out financially to help keep the lights on in good old spun today studios, but it definitely adds fuel to the motivational fire that I rely on to continue putting out episodes. And even more importantly, finding time to write. Nay, making time to write. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you to each and one of you, to each and every one of you that have shown your support to date. And thank in advance to each of you that will show support in the future. Here is one quick way that you can help support the Spun Today podcast. Definitely stay tuned for the outro of the episode where I'll tell you about a bunch of other ways that you can show your support. But here is one of those ways. And we'll jump right into the episode. The first musical that I wanted to tell you guys about was MJ, the [00:02:00] musical. Here is the official synopsis. He's one of the greatest entertainers of all time. Now, Michael Jackson's unique and unparalleled artistry has finally arrived on Broadway in a brand new musical centered around the making of his 1992 dangerous world tour. And created by Tony award winning director, choreographer, Christopher And two time Pulitzer Prize winner Lynn Nottage, MJ goes beyond the singular moves and signature sound of the star, offering a rare look at the creative mind and collaborative spirit that catapulted Jackson into legendary status. I went to check this out with my best friend, Steven. Shout out to Steven's Spun Today alumni, who has been on the pod several times in the past. We thought it would be cool to check out. You know, kid touching and molestation and all that, which has obviously [00:03:00] tarnished Michael Jackson and how we view him, all that aside. And I know in and of itself, it's like a controversial topic where some folks are like, no, they're all 100 percent rumors and nothing like that ever happened. Nothing was ever proven in court. And then the other folks on the other side where say. You know, the rumors have been rumors for decades for a reason. It's all true. It was even worse. I know the audience is split when it comes to that. From an artistic body of work perspective, he's obviously, as the little synopsis says there, one of the most legendary entertainers of all time. Now from attending and, you know, watching this musical, And for someone who likes going to like Broadway plays and musicals and enjoys that genre of art and acting and singing and stuff like that as a consumer, from that perspective, [00:04:00] we had a great time. And Michael Jackson in his heyday, I was a kid for that, a little kid, but I obviously know his music and his body of work and I think you'd be hard pressed not to find. Or to find someone that wasn't aware of any of it, but I obviously never saw him live or anything like that going to see this play, though, the way they did it, you definitely get that experience, albeit at a much smaller scale, but you definitely get the, like, you feel you're watching Michael Jackson. That's how good of a performance, not just the Michael Jackson characters did with it. But just the entire cast and the world that they built and created around it. And from a storytelling perspective, it was interesting how they did it. Because it is this very, and I guess, makes sense. In terms of it being like a deliberate conscious [00:05:00] move to do it this way. So you don't have to bring in a lot of like the things we know about Michael now. The allegations and court cases and... Drug abuse and, and stuff like that. So they didn't have to bring too much of that into the story because again, from a storytelling perspective, it's a very myopic focused view of his time around his 1992 dangerous world tour, which is his biggest tour ever. One of the biggest tours ever. And it was chronicling, the buildup to that, all the practice sessions. And how he was as an artist getting ready for that performance. And in the play, there is an MTV crew that was given access to chronicle this whole thing to do a, a piece on, you know, this very much anticipated world tour, which was based on true events that MTV [00:06:00] piece. Actually exists and I'll link to it in the episode notes for you guys to check out. So we got to see this interesting view of. That MTV camera crew. Trying to put together their creative vision of this documentary. While also getting close enough. Access to Michael Jackson to see his inner workings and stuff like that and picking up on. Certain things like. The beginnings of his drug addictions, which we know now ultimately led to his death in that he had a private doctor giving him shots or like IVs of trim butyral or something like that. I forget the exact medication name of what he ultimately died of, but it's supposed to be a strong ass, sleep aid. And so much so that he was getting that shit [00:07:00] injected on a nightly basis just to be able to try to get some sleep. And ultimately that's what he died of. And the doctor that was prescribing him the medication wanted him to go to jail for a few years and losing his medical license, I believe. But in the play, it shows him getting drugs from his manager or other folks like that were part of the stage team. I think it was his manager. And you get some insight into the all too common story of, you know, people in positions of power, whether it's in our music, politics, whatever, just having a circle of yes men and women around them that do what they want and don't really check them. And we saw that through the lens of, again, the beginnings of his drug addiction. And we also saw that same dynamic playing out with his financial team and how he wanted to pay for [00:08:00] this over the top concert and do like never before happened things like him being shot out of not a cannon, but something that shoots, shoots him out and onto the stage and him running out of money. And then Pushing his accountant and his financial team to mortgage Neverland Ranch, where he lived just to continue funding this artistic vision that he had, even though all the financial folks around him, lawyers, accountants, financial advisors warned him against it, he still ultimately got his way, i. e. via these yes men. So that was definitely interesting to see. They also showed. A direct correlation between his abusive childhood with how Joseph Jackson, the father was always depicted as, you know, being super, super hard stage dad, forcing them to practice [00:09:00] all the kids when they were the Jackson five for hours and hours on end, no breaks, didn't really have a childhood. You know, they had fame when they were young. So they didn't have a, you know, especially Michael being the youngest. Of them, of the Jackson 5, or second youngest, I believe. But never really having a childhood, or traditional childhood. They showed correlations of that, instilled hard work ethic. And they kind of papered over the, physical abuse in the play. With how hard Michael Jackson was on his crew and the choreographers and everything. And the dance team around him and how they were all exhausted and he would force them to to work hours on end just like his dad did to him and kind of showing that traumatic shift, trauma shift of, you know, him being the recipient of that and then dishing it out as he got older in the same exact way [00:10:00] and then seeing himself as, you know, becoming his father in that sense. But the play did a great job in also showing different. Stages within Michael Jackson's life, they showed him as a child, you know, as a flashback scene, because the entire thing again takes place around him working up to this dangerous world tour and being interviewed by the MTV crew and them filming and interviewing him in between rehearsals, etc. But while they were interviewing him, he would flash back and tell stories of childhood, of his mother and his father, Jackson 5, transitioning, going solo. And you got to see different actors, which did a phenomenal job of playing Michael Jackson. Now we did go on an off day, I think it was like a Tuesday or Wednesday. So every cast member, including Michael Jackson, wasn't necessarily the best. Number ones, if you will. I believe the young Michael [00:11:00] was, but I don't believe the middle Michael that they showed as well as the older Michael Jackson that's being interviewed. I think he was also the understudy, but I mean, these are all top tier phenomenal actors, right? All did an amazing job. And we got to hear all the hits, all Michael Jackson's hits, all Jackson five hits. And it really did feel like a Michael Jackson concert experience as a narrative choice. Again, it does seem to me to have been a deliberate choice to tell this story from a specific point in time. And in doing so not have to, or I guess they had the ability to paper over all the negatives that we know of Michael, like the drug abuse and child molestation allegations, so on and so forth. So you definitely lose something historically. From that perspective, but as a piece of [00:12:00] entertainment, we do wind up enjoying a shitload of music and just how they put the musical together. It was definitely an entertaining watch. And I definitely recommend it. MJ the musical, check it out back to the future. The musical, if you guys know anything about me, I am a huge, Back to the Future fan. I've spoken about the movie multiple times. I've highlighted how the screenplay for Back to the Future 1 is considered a perfect screenplay and I think it's taught in theater classes. It's my personal favorite trilogy of any genre, any movies, all time. And I've also said, controversial to some, that it's one of the rare occasions where the sequel, Back to the Future 2. is even better than the first movie. And I know that's blasphemous for some folks to hear. And even I myself go back and forth [00:13:00] between that thought from time to time. But just from the creativity of it alone to delve back into the first movie through the second movie and find ways to tie into the first movie, And make things that already existed within the first movie, make them that way because of the actions of the second movie, which was filmed and created. I think it was something like five years later. It's just fucking amazing from, from that standpoint. And I'm such a fan that my debut novel fractal Available now, SpunToday. com forward slash books, so you can find all the links of all the different places where you can find it. Back to the Future is an inspiration for that story. It is a time travel tale, as I like to say. Furthermore, I dedicated that book to my first [00:14:00] born Aiden, and the quote, the very first quote after the dedication section of the book, is a quote. From back to the future, part one from George McFly to Marty McFly, stating, if you put your mind to it, you can accomplish absolutely anything in him speaking to writing his first novel. So there's a complete tie in on multiple levels there. I fucking love it. I literally have a life size replica of the hoverboard immediately to my left right now. That said, I signed up, or, like, I follow all the different Back to the Future fan pages, official, unofficial. And I saw months before that they were developing the musical. I also subscribed to a bunch of different newsletters having to do with Back to the Future and the DMC newsletter, even from the DeLorean Motor Company. And I signed up to be alerted when the pre sales went on, [00:15:00] and I bought these tickets months in advance, I think something like seven months in advance. That's how much I was anticipating going. So I copped the tickets and my wife and I, shout out to Zoila, sponsored alum, went to go see it and had an amazing time. Being such a fan holding, I'm both holding the musical to a very high bar. I don't want them to fuck it up while at the same time being completely biased and knowing that I'll find a way to love it some way or another. So holding my love for the story. And the history of the film aside, as much as is humanly possible and attempting to be objective, I personally thought they knocked it out the park. Now they clearly didn't have, I'm not sure if Back to the Future, if it's old enough, I think it came out in 89, where the story itself is public domain or if they actually got the rights to [00:16:00] retell the story in this format. Because I don't believe that Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale were involved with the musical. I could be wrong, but I don't believe they were. And I wonder if certain choices that they made throughout the musical had to do with not having the full rights, or if they had to do with just trying to retell the story on the stage. Because although it was still very, very, very true to the original Back to the Future 1 film, which was another thing that I was curious about if they were going to try to encapsulate all three films within the musical, but it wasn't. It was just a retelling of the first one. But everything is not, you know, word for word, verbatim, although it does have a lot of the same key scenes. But then... Certain other key, certain other key scenes. For example, the famous skateboard [00:17:00] scene in front of the diner, when Biff and his crew chase Marty and wind up crashing into the manure truck and Marty's getting around the skateboard, they didn't redo that scene, but in its place, they kind of extend the scene of the lunchroom where. Marty first confronts Biff, you know, where they both kind of grab each other and make fists and they're about to punch each other, but then Strickland shows up and breaks it up, essentially. And Biff tells him, why don't you make like a tree and, and get out of here. They elongated that scene instead and made that the chase scene and made it so that Biff was chasing Marty throughout the lunchroom. He was jumping over tables and hitting him with lunch trays and running through the school. And they had an original musical number there. So they took certain liberties that way. I guess it was easier to do [00:18:00] it that way. If it wasn't a licensing issue or concern, it was easier, it must have been easier to put that together versus the actual skateboard scene and having multiple cars and etc. But it was something that I was curious about. It was kind of interactive in that, you know, like they had the enchantment on the the sea dance and during it when Marvin Barry and the Starlighters are playing Earth Angel there were in the actual theater there was Bubbles, there was a bubble machine or something. There was bubbles going all throughout so we were in the first few rows and you know, we could swat the bubbles and that kind of built the atmosphere around around the whole thing And of course he did the Johnny B. Good scene in terms of the cast, all phenomenal. The gentleman who plays doc killed it. Oh, and that was another thing also, they did not do the, you know, terrorist Libyan terrorist [00:19:00] shooting scene, which I guess to make it more PG they made it that doc was using the plutonium for the 1. 21 gigawatt reaction that he needs. Within the flux capacitor to make the time travel possible, but that he was using an old radiation suit, which wasn't completely insulated. And that's how he wound up dying initially versus getting shot by the terrorists. But yeah, the gentleman who played doc amazing, super funny, steals the show. The guy who plays Marty's spot on, did a great job. But the person who played Crispin Glover's character of George McFly dead on balls accurate to quote Marissa Tomei fucking amazing spot on like they could reshoot back to the future drop this gentleman in place of [00:20:00] Kristen Crispin Glover who legend has it was like an absolute asshole on set and that's why he wasn't in part two or three, but. Drop him into that role and you wouldn't tell the difference. He was amazing. Fucking awesome. The guy who played Biff was really good. Really looked the part. Which brings me to the number one star of the show. The DeLorean. They did it so ill that it looked like an actual real DeLorean that was up there. I guess they just, you know, it's just like the outsides or whatever, but it really looked like an actual replica real DeLorean. And it's obviously the moment that all the fans are anticipating the most, you know, when they first see the DeLorean, which they did the big reveal and like the same same way at Twin Pines mall, [00:21:00] which then becomes Lone Pines mall at the end when Marty runs over. Old Man Peabody's Pine Tree. Symbolizing how the littlest change in the past could affect have a ripple effect on the future. But they did an amazing job with the car itself and then with the actual time travel sequence. So the theater, the decor of it, can't also, this is how it also immersed the, the crowd aside from the bubbles thing from, from earlier. The decor. The balconies on the sides, on the left, on the left and the right, they were also part of the decor. Like there weren't people sitting in the seats there. Instead, they had this metal widgets and circuitry spanning all of the balconies. And during the time travel sequence, like when Marty accidentally goes back to 1955, all those start lighting up in different [00:22:00] colors and it's reminiscent of the flux capacitor and the lights around the actual DeLorean, which they also show and really immerse you and bring you into it in that way. And then at the end, which was even more amazing because they could have just done that again. They with like a crane or something, something you couldn't see, but some sort of lift, they lift up the DeLorean. For the scene where, you know, the clock tower scene when he's going back to the future. They lift up the DeLorean and push it forward into the crowd. So it's hovering above us almost. Like above, the first couple rows. Not completely, but just enough for it to be off of the stage. Can you imagine the fucking lawsuit that thing would have fallen or something? But obviously it was secure and it was just so ill the way they did it. And I couldn't have been happier with Back to the Future the musical. I definitely, definitely highly recommend.[00:23:00] If I have the chance to see it again, I definitely will. Tickets should be a lot more reasonable now. That's the only issue I had with it. Although I was willing to pay, so whatever. But apparently it's not doing well, or as well as anticipated. And the. Ticket prices. I checked the day of for my same seat and it Was like 40 percent less in terms of the actual pricing But that aside it was an amazing experience. I Loved every bit of it. If you're back to the future fan as I am you will too Back to the future the musical Check it out HBO's original series succession Is a series that ran from 2018 to 2023. Like I mentioned in the intro, I didn't start watching the series until 2023. Literally while the final season was, was airing. [00:24:00] So, that came with the benefit of being able to binge it and see it all the way through. But in terms of sharing some of my personal takeaways and tidbits here. It's it shows a bit out of the zeitgeist. And some references might be dated, but we'll share them nonetheless for posterity. Here is the official synopsis. The Roy family is known for controlling the biggest media and entertainment company in the world. However, their world changes when their father steps down from the company. And as we like to do here on the Spun Today podcast, I wanted to shout out each and every one of the writers, starting with the show's creator, Jesse Armstrong. Followed by Jamie Carragher, Susan Soon Hee Stanton, Alice Birch, Miriam Batty, She a Batty, she knows she a 10. Georgia Pritchett, Tony Roche, Nathan Elston, Callie Hirshaway, [00:25:00] John Brown, Will Tracy, Lucy Preble, Jonathan Glaser, Ted Cohen, Anna Jordan, Mary Laws, and Will Arbery. Shout out to each and every one of the writers on Succession who put together an amazing show. And I particularly want to shout out the, the writers in this particular series, because they took what is the embodiment of quote unquote evil rich people, you know, just like the vile borderline sociopathic Narcissistic archetype of, you know, the greedy, quote, unquote, greedy, rich people. And they made us, the viewers, through the strong characters that they created, that the writers created, and that the actors, which were phenomenal, and I'll speak to it in a minute, brought to life. They made us, as the audience, connect [00:26:00] with those characters, and in some cases, in a lot of cases, actually root for them to win. Which, if you take a step back and look at the ruthlessness with how they navigate the world with little to no care of who or how they affected others. When you look at it objectively through that lens, it's like, fuck these people. But since they're developed so richly as characters, and it's such a character driven show in my opinion. we still connect with them and root for them on a human level. And that I think is a testament again to just amazing writing. So shout out again to the writers there. Now the cast absolutely killed it. Kieran Culkin is one of my favorite characters. He plays Roman Roy, the youngest of the four children. Brian Cox is the matriarch, the Rupert Murdoch like character who [00:27:00] created this Conglomerate multi billion dollar company. He's just amazing. Tom Wombs Gans played by Matthew McFadden. Such a cool character. Very selfish. It turns out as, as all of them have traits of selfishness, but he was in it for himself from the jump and. He plays possum throughout, so much so that he's married to Shiv Roy, the daughter, played by Sarah Snook, also does a great job, but she's like a, you know, princess, always gets what she wants, kinda has the quote unquote trophy husband, cheats on him, and he just takes it all, and his character is such that you hate him at first, so. because he's such a pushover and you're like yo stand up for yourself you fucking pussy then you wind up rooting for [00:28:00] him then you wind up finding out that either he's been running a game the entire time or he just got caught up in it and began running a game somewhere along the line and became fed up great characters both in real life British I believe it's a good job with the American accents there Same as Logan Logan Roy's character, Brian Cox. And by British, that's just my dumb American interpretation of their accent. You know, it could be Australian, Zealand, or who knows. Conroy, the eldest half brother played by Alan Ruck. Shout out to Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Really cool character. Shout out to the Conheads out there. Jeremy Strong. Not the eldest, but the eldest of the full siblings of the three, you know, Kieran Culkin's character, Sarah Snook's character, and himself, Kendall Roy. He was the heir to the throne, if you will. And in the very [00:29:00] first episode, which sets the stage for the entire series, the first half of the episode is him going through The process of getting ready to take over the company because the father had announced his retirement. He was gonna step down Kendall Roy is gonna take over and in that very first episode the father winds up Literally fucking him over and saying nah, I changed my mind. He's like, wait, what my You changed your mind. I'm supposed to take over next week. He was like now let's give it a couple more years I decided to stay on He was like, but we announced it to the world and the, you know, it's a publicly traded company and the stock and this and that and blah blah blah. He was like, yeah, that's all bullshit. Don't worry about it. And you have this tension within the family always throughout the entire series of the son trying to take over from the father, the father trying to maintain control, the father getting sick, the other siblings trying to vie for control, sometimes being on the same page with each other, most of the time not, and just like this complete [00:30:00] dysfunction. And it was such an interesting, family dynamic that really keeps you hooked. I also thought it was particularly interesting the way that the show was shot. And I got this from some of the, not behind the scenes, but the extras of the show where they, you know, interview different characters and they also have a podcast, et cetera. So I don't remember if it's from one of the extras or from the actual podcast, but one of the directors, I think the main one Mark Millard. Maybe it was Jesse Armstrong, the creator of the show, but they were breaking down how they shot in a way where they zoom in to the actual characters for emotional exclamation points. So they called it. And you notice that throughout the entire series where they'll, you know, they'll shoot a scene and then. For the character reaction, they'll zoom in to the character's face, which is pretty interesting. And he also mentioned that on set, they [00:31:00] always kept live cameras around so that the art, the actors themselves, they didn't know when they were being shot or not. So it forced them essentially to stay in character. And he likened it to filming theater, similar to when you go see a play. How all the characters, as long as they're on stage, they're in character, you know, that whether they're the main focus of a scene or not, or a background character, they're always doing something. They're always on, if you will, then I'm going to jump to in season two, episode 10, I jetted down here. There was a dope line that Logan Roy said again, the matriarch of the family played by Brian Cox, and he was speaking to money and wealth and how most things don't exist. Or companies rather. And he said that the Ford motor company hardly exists. He said that it's just a time saving expression for a collection of financial [00:32:00] interests. Again, all the Ford motor company was to this psychopath was just a time saving expression for a collection of financial interests. I thought that was such an interesting way, such a financially motivated lens to view the world through. And I just love the way that was phrased. All the four Ford Motor Company is, is just a time saving expression for a collection of financial interests. Jesus. There's a lot of double crossing in the show the siblings with each other, the father to the, to the kids, the kids to the father. There's a point in the season two finale where you think Kendall is going to rise to the occasion and, you know, be the heir to the throne that the father, [00:33:00] you know, wants him to be, that is grooming him to be. But he winds up double crossing his father again, as he did multiple times throughout the series. And I thought it was interesting that he had a lot of ups and downs, you know, he had addiction issues in the show. They reference all the time that he had a stint in rehab. And just from a mindset perspective, he was always either completely out of it and crying and in the dumps or completely manic and on the fucking ball. He reminded me a lot of Kanye. And or the public version of Kanye that we've been seeing in. You know, recent news and media cycles and all the drama around the Kardashians and all that shit and his manic episodes. That's what he was reminiscent of to me. I loved the relationship between two main characters, both outsiders of the family in their own right, which was Tom Wamskantz, which I [00:34:00] mentioned earlier, which was the husband of the daughter, Shiv Roy. His relationship with Greg Hirsch, played by Nicholas Braun, which is a second cousin, extended cousin to the family that they barely know, but that works his way into the fold and Tom brings him under his wing kind of because he sees himself in, in Greg in some ways, you know, being an outsider of the family, but also because he wants to have someone to have power over. And he finally found someone lower than him on the totem pole, if you will, within this family structure. And they just have a back and forth, funny, quippy, really interesting dynamic throughout the entire series. And I'll wrap it up with a, a line of dialogue from Alan Ruck's character, Connor Roy, when it spoiler alert, this happened in season four, episode seven. But Connor, who decides to run for president, out of all things, of the [00:35:00] United States, and Kieran Culkin's character, Roman Roy, hilariously tells him, don't you think you should try for something smaller first? You know, maybe like running a CVS or something? But Connor gets himself in a position where... essentially his actual, you know, the two rivals for, for president, the Democrat and the Republican running, they're neck and neck, like razor sharp, you know, 49 percent to 49 percent margins. And Connor is polling at like 1 percent or something like that. It's something, something sick that pretty much put him in a position to make a deal with one of the other guys where he would drop out of the race and His supporters would vote for that person, and that person would essentially become the, the president. And he's trying to see what he can get, you know, what position he could get from the person that would ultimately win. And one of them offers him to be the diplomat of Alman, which is a [00:36:00] country that I had never heard of. And he tells him that it's an interesting thought. He'll, he'll definitely mull it over. And that Oman is the poor man's Saudi Arabia and the rich man's Yemen. And again, I just thought what an interesting way to view the world and view things. But yeah, yo succession dope show. I definitely recommend you guys check it out if you're into that type of thing. It's supposed to be loosely based on Rupert Murdoch and you know, Fox news, that type of billion dollar conglomerate company and the tension and dynamics. Within his children, for example Rupert Murdoch, I think I've spoken about here on the past. One of them is like liberal, liberal leaning, which is kind of like Shiv's character in succession. And the other one is very conservative. Then they're both vying for succession of Fox, for example. So this show is loosely based on that, or at the very least, it's like one of those are imitates life imitates art type of things. [00:37:00] But that is my little recap and review on Succession, streaming now on HBO Max. Check it out. Goat doing goat shit. And I want to create a drop for, specific to this segment of the podcast because it is a recurring one. And I have some things that I've been tinkering with and working on. But speaking it aloud to see if I can hold myself to task because I've been meaning to do that, , forever. I just haven't gotten around to it, but the goats doing goat shit segment is a segment where I like to celebrate the true champions of greatness and highlight the phenomenal achievements of extraordinary individuals, especially when they do things that they do not have to do. And in this episode's edition of goats doing goat shit, I'd like to welcome none other Then Sean P. Diddy Combs to the list. Now, for the longest time, and still, [00:38:00] Puffy is known as being a ruthless businessman, if you will. Someone who hustled and busted his ass and built and created bad boy entertainment, which has brought us countless acts and music that we all love to this day. And many, many artists, but one thing that he did in building his empire from the ground up was recreate the, what some may say myself included, archaic, traditional, let's call them music artist deals, where the label that signs an artist winds up owning their publishing their masters, essentially making the lion's share of the money that is to be made from the art created by the actual artist. And the artist is often times in doing this type of bad business left fending for scraps. And music artists, [00:39:00] historically, this has happened to across different genres since the beginning of time. Some but few and far between have had more savvy, you know, teams and lawyers and sound financial advice around them and just the foresight of ownership. of your creation, being able to reap the benefits of it in perpetuity versus, you know, taking a bigger bag up front, but then never being able to profit from it down the line. So that's definitely been the biggest knock, in my opinion, on, on Puffy over the years in this respect. As of September of 2023, it became public that Puffy was returning his publishing rights. Which, by the way, he did not legally have to do. Returning the publishing rights to the artists and songwriters that helped him build Bad Boy Entertainment. Folks like Ma$e, which was the most vocal, [00:40:00] and actually recently dropped, and by recently I mean within the last year or two, diss tracks and did a lot of interviews and references to all of this, which are actually pretty good. Faith, The Locks, which is another vocal components of, you know, Puffy's business practices, 112, and the estate of Biggie, the Notorious B. I. G. They are all getting, or have gotten, their publishing back because the paperwork and agreements have all been signed and are actually finalized. And according to Puffy, in an interview that he gave to Billboard. He had a lot of offers back in like 2021 when, you know, like folks like Justin Timberlake and Shakira and a lot of folks were selling their, their publishing, their, their catalogs for like a hundred million dollars, $300 million, et cetera. He got an offer, an alleged nine figure [00:41:00] offer. To purchase his catalog, which included all the publishing that he owned, owned legally from all these artists. And that's when he supposedly decided to not sell and give the publishing back to the respective artists. It just took a lot of time between then and now to actually execute the legal documentation, etc. But I thought that was a dope move. It wasn't something that he had to legally do. Did Puffy make, over the decades, a shitload of money off everybody's catalog? Yes, of course he did. Was he legally correct to do so? Yes, he was. Whether it was ethical or moral or not, and hypocritical in some sense, those are all valid criticisms in my opinion, but he wasn't technically or legally... it wasn't something he had to do. So I definitely applaud him for doing [00:42:00] so. I'm always of the mentality of just own your shit and be of the mindset that if someone, a publishing company, a label, if you're in music, a publishing company, if you're in, you know, writing or creating different types of art, a platform, et cetera, if they're coming to you with a bag, To purchase outright, whatever it is that you created big bag, small bag, whatever. They would also pay you for just licensing it. It'll be a smaller bag, but in my opinion, and I'm not the fucking Messiah here, but in my opinion, if you're offering me a big bag to just own my shit outright, it's because you from a financial standpoint, believe that you're going to make that money back and more over time. So it would also be a sound business move from your perspective to license [00:43:00] it for a smaller bag for a shorter period of time, because you will also make your money back within that shorter period of time. And then some, and in that type of scenario, you keep your shit then afterwards, license it out to someone else, make money off of it yourself, maintain the ownership. So you could do whatever it is that you want with it in the future. Turn your book into a movie, turn it into a TV series after that, do both at the same time, turn it into a fucking VR spectacle that hasn't even been created yet, but will exist in 10, 15 years. And since you have the ownership of your IP, you could do that instead of handing it over for a bit bigger bag now, and then the company that purchased it from you. Maintains that ability moving forward. So again, with that said, I'd like to welcome Sean P. Diddy Combs officially onto the Spuntoday goats doing goat shit list. [00:44:00] And that folks was episode 243 of the Spuntoday podcast. Thank each and every one of you very much for listening. I really, really appreciate it. Before I let you go, just wanted to tell you guys about a Few quick ways that you can help support the spun today podcast. If you so choose, you continue support is amazing. I appreciate it very, very much. Whether you're using my affiliate link to shop on Amazon, which you can find that spun today. com forward slash support, or you're buying t shirts or coffee mugs or my books sponsored. com forward slash books, or using any of my affiliate links that all can be found that spun today. com forward slash support. Which will get you a discount on whatever said thing that it is that you're looking for that I have an affiliate link for. Whichever way you choose to support, it means a ton. I really, really appreciate it and just wanted to say thank you. Here's a breakdown of a few of the different ways you can help support the [00:45:00] Spun Today podcast if you so choose. And I'll check you all out next time. Peace.

Yes, we remember the end of the last cast, and K.M. put the work in to answer last week's question about what happened to Michael Jackson's animals from the Neverland Ranch after his death. Here's what we know: Bubbles outlived Michael. Michael could have used a vet. Seems like Thriller could have used a vet, too. Madonna may be in Oklahoma, but J. Andrews is definitely in Colorado. And we are all aliens. You just got scienced, Karen! Silence is golden.... and black. Then it gets super gay! Respect Arthur Rimbaud & Walt Whitman. Learn some history, bitch! "Arrrr matey!" Pirates never dropped a grumpy. Let's end by getting to the root of it.

If you thought The Last House on Needless Street was tricksy, just wait until you hear about Looking Glass Sound. This is Cat's ode to the Maine of Stephen King, the enigmatic narrators of Shirley Jackson and… well, a host of other comparisons that I foist upon her in the next hour.Above all that though – the book is so typically, inimitably Catriona Ward. It's a destined Gothic classic that takes the genre, crumples it into a ball before rewriting the whole thing. We cover the purpose of metafiction in horror, how writing a book is like falling in love, the eeriness of the Maine coast and her fascination with the Neverland Ranch. If that isn't enough Cat also tells us a ghost story that happened to her just the night before.Tricksy, very tricksy…as Gollum would say.EnjoyLooking Glass Sound was published April 20th by Viper Books in the UK and 22nd August by Tor Nightfire in the US.Other books mentioned in this episode include: Lunar Park (2005), by Bret Easton EllisThe Rules of Attraction (1987), by Bret Easton EllisThe Secret History (1992), by Donna TarttMy Other Life (1996) by Paul TherouxAny Human Heart (2002), by William BoydThe Haunting of Hill House (1959), by Shirley JacksonDeath of a Bookseller (2023), by Alice SlaterMrs March (2021), by Virgina Feito Support Talking Scared on PatreonCome talk books on Twitter @talkscaredpod, on Instagram, or email direct to talkingscaredpod@gmail.com Support the show

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The explosive definitive account of the Michael Jackson saga, chronicling the King of Pop's battles against child molestation charges from 1993 to 2005, from award-winning journalist Diane Dimond, who broke the story first, over twelve years ago Michael Jackson has long captured the world's attention, first as the dynamic lead singer of the Jackson Five, then during his highly successful breakout solo career. But somewhere along the line Jackson transformed himself into something hardly recognizable and was investigated -- not once, but twice -- for crimes we could hardly imagine. Even now, after his unexpected acquittal on multiple charges of child molestation, there is a sense that the real truth behind the allegations is not known. The character of Michael Jackson -- from his humble beginnings to his rich career and the birth of Neverland Ranch -- is destined for great debate among fans, journalists, historians, and psychiatrists for years to come. In the meantime, there is Diane Dimond, the journalist of record on the Jackson case. In November 2003, when the Santa Barbara county sheriff's department conducted another raid on Neverland Ranch, Diane Dimond and her camera crews were the only ones there to capture the moment and report the news to the world. Now, for the first time, Dimond recounts the multifaceted details of the Jackson case, utilizing her extensive notes and sources. What she tells us is a shocking story. Be Careful Who You Love will take you behind the scenes and into the courtroom of one of the most controversial cases of the decade, while giving readers a dramatic glimpse of one reporter's vigilance and unending quest to uncover the truth.

The explosive definitive account of the Michael Jackson saga, chronicling the King of Pop's battles against child molestation charges from 1993 to 2005, from award-winning journalist Diane Dimond, who broke the story first, over twelve years ago Michael Jackson has long captured the world's attention, first as the dynamic lead singer of the Jackson Five, then during his highly successful breakout solo career. But somewhere along the line Jackson transformed himself into something hardly recognizable and was investigated -- not once, but twice -- for crimes we could hardly imagine. Even now, after his unexpected acquittal on multiple charges of child molestation, there is a sense that the real truth behind the allegations is not known. The character of Michael Jackson -- from his humble beginnings to his rich career and the birth of Neverland Ranch -- is destined for great debate among fans, journalists, historians, and psychiatrists for years to come. In the meantime, there is Diane Dimond, the journalist of record on the Jackson case. In November 2003, when the Santa Barbara county sheriff's department conducted another raid on Neverland Ranch, Diane Dimond and her camera crews were the only ones there to capture the moment and report the news to the world. Now, for the first time, Dimond recounts the multifaceted details of the Jackson case, utilizing her extensive notes and sources. What she tells us is a shocking story.

The explosive definitive account of the Michael Jackson saga, chronicling the King of Pop's battles against child molestation charges from 1993 to 2005, from award-winning journalist Diane Dimond, who broke the story first, over twelve years ago Michael Jackson has long captured the world's attention, first as the dynamic lead singer of the Jackson Five, then during his highly successful breakout solo career. But somewhere along the line Jackson transformed himself into something hardly recognizable and was investigated -- not once, but twice -- for crimes we could hardly imagine. Even now, after his unexpected acquittal on multiple charges of child molestation, there is a sense that the real truth behind the allegations is not known. The character of Michael Jackson -- from his humble beginnings to his rich career and the birth of Neverland Ranch -- is destined for great debate among fans, journalists, historians, and psychiatrists for years to come. In the meantime, there is Diane Dimond, the journalist of record on the Jackson case. In November 2003, when the Santa Barbara county sheriff's department conducted another raid on Neverland Ranch, Diane Dimond and her camera crews were the only ones there to capture the moment and report the news to the world. Now, for the first time, Dimond recounts the multifaceted details of the Jackson case, utilizing her extensive notes and sources. What she tells us is a shocking story. Be Careful Who You Love will take you behind the scenes and into the courtroom of one of the most controversial cases of the decade, while giving readers a dramatic glimpse of one reporter's vigilance and unending quest to uncover the truth.

The explosive definitive account of the Michael Jackson saga, chronicling the King of Pop's battles against child molestation charges from 1993 to 2005, from award-winning journalist Diane Dimond, who broke the story first, over twelve years ago Michael Jackson has long captured the world's attention, first as the dynamic lead singer of the Jackson Five, then during his highly successful breakout solo career. But somewhere along the line Jackson transformed himself into something hardly recognizable and was investigated -- not once, but twice -- for crimes we could hardly imagine. Even now, after his unexpected acquittal on multiple charges of child molestation, there is a sense that the real truth behind the allegations is not known. The character of Michael Jackson -- from his humble beginnings to his rich career and the birth of Neverland Ranch -- is destined for great debate among fans, journalists, historians, and psychiatrists for years to come. In the meantime, there is Diane Dimond, the journalist of record on the Jackson case. In November 2003, when the Santa Barbara county sheriff's department conducted another raid on Neverland Ranch, Diane Dimond and her camera crews were the only ones there to capture the moment and report the news to the world. Now, for the first time, Dimond recounts the multifaceted details of the Jackson case, utilizing her extensive notes and sources. What she tells us is a shocking story.

(Part 2 of a two part exploration of the life and work of Michael Jackson) For four decades, Michael Jackson - The ‘King of Pop' and cultural icon, was almost constantly in the public eye. Even now, more than a decade after his premature death, he remains the most decorated solo artist in music history and a constant source of intrigue. In a two-part episode of Heard This, we will explore Jackson's life and work, along with the many conspiracies and controversial moments that dogged him throughout his colourful life. Make sure to subscribe to catch Part 2 as soon as it drops next week. Episode Music: Sly - Bryant Lowry (obtained from Podcastle) Episode Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson?wprov=sfla1 https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/jacksons-legacy-jackson-5 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/2719763.stm Uncommon People – David Hepworth pages 291-292, 2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_%28album%29?wprov=sfla1 https://www.newsweek.com/michael-jackson-bad-video-smooth-criminal-king-pop-657221 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverland_Ranch?wprov=sfla1 https://web.archive.org/web/20190418234039/https://www.latimes.com/la-me-jacksontimeline-jackson-cancels-world-tour-story.html https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-12-09-me-49-story.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_sexual_abuse_accusations_against_Michael_Jackson?wprov=sfla1 https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-xpm-2013-aug-14-la-me-ln-debbie-rowe-testify-20130814-story.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_and_appearance_of_Michael_Jackson?wprov=sfla1 Leaving Neverland – Channel 4/HBO 2019 Living With Michael Jackson – ITV/ABC 2003

(Part 1 of a two part exploration of the life and work of Michael Jackson) For four decades, Michael Jackson - The ‘King of Pop' and cultural icon, was almost constantly in the public eye. Even now, more than a decade after his premature death, he remains the most decorated solo artist in music history and a constant source of intrigue. In a two-part episode of Heard This, we will explore Jackson's life and work, along with the many conspiracies and controversial moments that dogged him throughout his colourful life. Make sure to subscribe to catch Part 2 as soon as it drops next week. Episode Music: Sly - Bryant Lowry (obtained from Podcastle) Episode Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jackson?wprov=sfla1 https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/jacksons-legacy-jackson-5 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/2719763.stm Uncommon People – David Hepworth pages 291-292, 2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_%28album%29?wprov=sfla1 https://www.newsweek.com/michael-jackson-bad-video-smooth-criminal-king-pop-657221 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverland_Ranch?wprov=sfla1 https://web.archive.org/web/20190418234039/https://www.latimes.com/la-me-jacksontimeline-jackson-cancels-world-tour-story.html https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-12-09-me-49-story.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_sexual_abuse_accusations_against_Michael_Jackson?wprov=sfla1 https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-xpm-2013-aug-14-la-me-ln-debbie-rowe-testify-20130814-story.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_and_appearance_of_Michael_Jackson?wprov=sfla1 Leaving Neverland – Channel 4/HBO 2019 Living With Michael Jackson – ITV/ABC 2003

THE SECOND HALLOWEEN EPISODE! Can't believe it's over a year now - thanks again FatHeads! Join the ladies for some creepypasta and some Halloween urban legends. Alyssa shares a “cherished” gift with Jamie and they talk about some other recent things that happened before kicking off the Halloween spookiness! (don't worry it's only like 10 minutes). The Halloween festivities start off with a few creepy pasta readings! Get the sauce ready!The ladies share some of their more interesting nightmares before Jamie talks about some Halloween urban legends that hold some truth. Write us some of your cringe stories at [nervouslaughterpodcast@gmail.com](mailto:nervouslaughterpodcast@gmail.com)The socials: [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/nervouslaughterpodcast) | [Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/NervousLaughterPodcast) | [Twitter](https://twitter.com/NervouslaughPod) Recommendations:[The Last Podcast On the Left creepypasta playlist on  Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1O9HoqvYCS2XHxuVengtHT) Music:[“Strange Lulliby” by DylanTheFish](https://freesound.org/people/DylanTheFish/sounds/482960/) (used for intermission) [“Mystic Castle” by szegvari](https://freesound.org/people/szegvari/sounds/558274/) (used for background in creepypasta readings)

In this episode, you'll hear how the Chandlers begin and develop their friendship with Michael Jackson. The accounts presented in this case primarily come from the Chandlers themselves. The Chandler family first visits Neverland Ranch in February 1993, and Jordan will later say the abuse began a few months later. The controversy over the reliability of Jordan's confession is detailed and his father's questionable motives and behavior are explored. The episode concludes in August 1993 with the surprise raids on Neverland Ranch and Jackson's L.A. apartment.Website: www.michaeljacksoncaseforinnocence.comTwitter: @Case4InnocenceContent Advisory: Sex abuse allegations involving minors are discussed in this episode.

Today I bring you the conversation I had with Dan Karaty! Dan is a dancer and choreographer, and he has worked with some of the biggest superstars in the world. His first breakthrough was working with Britney Spears on her first MTV Awards performance. He worked as a choreographer for Usher, Britney Spears, NSYNC, Justin Timberlake and more! In 2005, So You Think You Can Dance debuted in the US with Dan as a judge. After 3 successful seasons, Dan took the format all over the world where he became the Simon Cowell of the Netherlands and Belgium leading judging panels for numerous talent shows. In this conversation he also shares stories about dinner with Michael Jackson at Neverland Ranch! In recent years, Dan has opened up about his struggle with anxiety and alcohol. On June 15th, 2022, Dan celebrated 1 year sober! In 2022 he launched his podcast exploring recovery and mental health with amazing guests. Dan Karaty: https://www.dankaraty.com/ Sponsored by Engineered Sleep! Use code LIVE15 to get 15% off your order. https://engineeredsleep.com

Episode 108! This week, James, Sarah, and Producer Ash make their way to Neverland Ranch to discuss both the good and bad. Michael Jackson was a polarizing figure who built his own personal theme park. Buy some shirts from Dynamite Goat Trading Co! Follow Disney Dependent on Instagram! Executive Producer: Producer Ash Producer/editor/mixer: Deanna Chapman Intro music written by Ryan Knowles Logo design by Ryan Hatch --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/disney-dependent/support

Part 2 When Thriller was released in November 1982, it didn't seem to have a single direction. Instead, it arguably sounded like many singles. But it became apparent that this was precisely what Michael intended Thriller to be: a brilliant collection of songs meant as hits, each designed for a particular audience in mind. Michael put out "Billie Jean" for the dancers and "Beat It" for the rockers and then followed each jam with amazing videos to enhance his allure and his inaccessibility. These songs had a life of their own. Thriller was almost called “Star Light”. The lyric "thriller" in the track of the same name was originally "star light". The decision to change it was down to marketing appeal.    This wonderful article from Rolling Stone says: "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" had the sense of a vitalizing nightmare in its best lines ("You're stuck in the middle/And the pain is thunder. … Still they hate you, you're a vegetable. … They eat off you, you're a vegetable"). "Billie Jean," in the meantime, exposed how the interaction between the artist's fame and the outside world might invoke soul-killing dishonor ("People always told me, be careful of what you do. … 'Cause the lie becomes the truth," Jackson sings, possibly thinking of a paternity charge from a while back). And "Beat It" was pure anger – a rousing depiction of violence as a male stance, a social inheritance that might be overcome. It also almost caught the studio on fire. When Eddie Van Halen recorded his solo, the sound of his guitar caused one of the studio speakers to catch fire. The video for “Beat It” was set in Los Angeles' Skid Row and featured up to 80 real-life gang members from the notorious street gangs the Crips and the Bloods. It cost $100,000 to make.   Thriller's parts added up to the most improbable kind of art – a work of personal revelation that was also a mass-market masterpiece. It's an achievement that will likely never be topped. It was the best-selling album worldwide in 1983 and became the best-selling album of all time in the U.S. and the best-selling album of all time worldwide, selling an estimated 70 million copies. It topped the Billboard 200 chart for 37 weeks and was in the top 10 of the 200 for 80 consecutive weeks. It was the first album to produce seven Billboard Hot 100 top-10 singles. Thriller is still the highest-selling album of all time. Want to know what the top 25 are? Subscribe to our Patreon for our video bonus on the top-selling albums ever! Billie Jean was the first video by an African-American artist to air on MTV. The video revealed Jackson's new look of a leather suit, pink shirt, red bow tie and his signature single white glove. It was a style copied by kids throughout the United States. It caused one school, New Jersey's Bound Brook High, to ban students from coming to class wearing white gloves.   Toto members Keyboardist Steve Porcaro co-wrote Human Nature, and Steve Lukather contributed rhythm guitar on Beat It.   On March 25, 1983, Jackson reunited with his brothers for Motown 25: Yesterday, Today, Forever, an NBC television special. The show aired on May 16 to an estimated audience of 47 million and featured the Jacksons and other Motown stars. Jackson had just performed a medley of greatest hits with his brothers. It was exciting stuff, but for Michael, it wasn't enough. As his brothers said their goodbyes and left the stage, Michael remained. He seemed shy for a moment, trying to find words to say. "Yeah," he almost whispered, "those were good old days. … I like those songs a lot. But especially—" and then he placed the microphone into the stand with a commanding look and said, "I like the new songs."  Then, wearing a white glove decorated with rhinestones, he swooped down, picked up a fedora, put it on his head with confidence, and vaulted into "Billie Jean." He also debuted his moonwalk dance (which became his signature dance). This was one of Michael's first public acts as a star outside and beyond the Jacksons, and it was startlingly clear that he was not only one of the most breathtaking live performers in pop music but that he could mesmerize the audience, something not seen since the likes of Elvis Presley. Michael had initially turned down the invitation to the show, believing he had been doing too much television. But at the request of Motown founder and Icon Berry Gordy, he performed in exchange for an opportunity to do a solo performance. And he killed it.    "Almost 50 million people saw that show," Michael wrote in his book Moonwalk. "After that, many things changed." At this time, Michael Jackson was obviously an immensely talented young man – he seemed shy but ambitious and undoubtedly enigmatic. Nobody knew much about his beliefs or sex life; he rarely gave interviews, but he also didn't land himself in scandals. He did, however, describe himself as a lonely person – especially around the time he made Off the Wall. Former Los Angeles Times music critic Robert Hilburn recently wrote of meeting Jackson in 1981, when the singer was 23, that Jackson struck him as "one of the most fragile and lonely people I've ever met … almost abandoned. When I asked why he didn't live on his own like his brothers, instead of remaining at his parents' house, he said, 'Oh, no, I think I'd die on my own. I'd be so lonely. Even at home, I'm lonely. I sit in my room and sometimes cry. It is so hard to make friends, and there are some things you can't talk to your parents or family about. I sometimes walk around the neighborhood at night, just hoping to find someone to talk to. But I just end up coming home.'"   Jackson's social uneasiness was probably formed by the wounds in his history; the children were insulated from others their age, and Jackson's status as a lifelong star may have left him feeling not just cut off from most people but also alienated from them – as if his experience or his vocation made him extraordinary. "I hate to admit it," he once said, "but I feel strange around everyday people." Not exactly an unusual sentiment for some highly celebrated celebrities, especially former child stars. At the same time, it's a statement full of signals: Michael didn't enjoy the sort of company that might guide him in positive ways. He probably never did throughout his life. Maybe the most troubling passage in his autobiography Moonwalk is when he talks about children in the entertainment world who eventually fell prey to drugs: "I can understand … considering the enormous stresses put upon them at a young age. It's a difficult life."   Thriller placed seven singles in Billboard's Top 10 (presently around 50 million copies). At the 1984 Grammy Awards, Michael finally claimed his due, capturing eight awards, a record he holds with the band Santana, including Album of the Year, Record of the Year, Best Male Pop Vocal Performance, Best Rock Vocal Performance for "Beat It," Best R&B Song, and Best R&B Vocal Performance for "Billie Jean," and he won an award for the E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial storybook. In addition, the album won Producer of the year (Quincy Jones).    At the 11th Annual American Music Awards, Michael won another eight awards and became the youngest artist to win the Award of Merit. He also won Favorite Male Artist, Favorite Soul/R&B Artist, and Favorite Pop/Rock Artist. "Beat It" won Favorite Soul/R&B Video, Favorite Pop/Rock Video, and Favorite Pop/Rock Single. In addition, the album won Favorite Soul/R&B Album and Favorite Pop/Rock Album. Thriller's sales doubled after releasing an extended music video, Michael Jackson's Thriller, seeing Michael dancing with a group of incredibly designed zombies and was directed by John Landis.   Michael had the highest royalty rate in the music industry at that point, with about $2 for every album sold (equivalent to $5 in 2021). The same year, The Making of Michael Jackson's Thriller, a documentary about the music video, won a Grammy for Best Music Video (Longform). At this time, The New York Times wrote, "in the world of pop music, there is Michael Jackson, and there is everybody else."   Oddly enough, On May 14, 1984, then-President Ronald Reagan gave Michael an award recognizing his support of alcohol and drug abuse charities.   In November 1983, Michael and his brothers partnered with PepsiCo in a $5 million promotional deal that broke records for a celebrity endorsement (equivalent to $13,603,408 in 2021).  On January 27, 1984, Michael and other members of the Jacksons filmed a Pepsi commercial. Pyrotechnics accidentally set Jackson's hair on fire during a simulated concert before a whole house of fans, causing second-degree burns to his scalp. Michael underwent treatment to hide the scars and had his third rhinoplasty shortly after. Pepsi settled out of court, and Jackson donated the $1.5 million settlement to the Brotman Medical Center in Culver City, California; its now-closed Michael Jackson Burn Center was named in his honor. Michael signed a second agreement with Pepsi in the late 1980s for $10 million. The second campaign covered 20 countries and provided financial support for Jackson's Bad album and the 1987–88 world tour.  He was making SO much money and was the most significant music star globally.   Then, months later, it was announced that Michael would be setting out on a nationwide tour with the Jacksons. He didn't want to do it but felt obligated. Clearly, Michael was bigger, better, and "badder" than his family's limitations on him. He should have been taking the stage alone at this point in his career.   Jackson's aversion to the Victory Tour was apparent when he sat looking miserable at press conferences.   The Victory Tour of 1984 headlined the Jacksons and showcased Michael's new solo material to more than two million Americans. Following the controversy over the concert's ticket sales, Jackson donated his share of the proceeds, an estimated $3 to 5 million, to charity. What controversy, you ask?    Don King (yeah, boxing promoter Don King), Chuck Sullivan, and Papa Joe Jackson came up with a way to generate extra money from ticket sales. Those wanting to attend would have to send a postal money order for $120 ($310 in current dollars) along with a particular form to a lottery to buy blocks of four tickets at $30 apiece (US$78 in 2021 dollars), allegedly to stop scalpers. Upon receipt, the money was to be deposited into a standard money market account earning 7% annual interest; it would take six to eight weeks for the lottery to be held and money to be refunded to those that didn't win. Since only one in ten purchasers would win the lottery and receive tickets, there would be more money in the bank for that period than there were tickets to sell, and they expected to earn $10–12 million in interest. Obviously, the Jacksons were all for the idea, but Michael wasn't, and he warned them that it would be a public relations disaster. The $30 ticket price was already higher than most touring acts (like Prince and Bruce Springsteen) were charging at the time and was even worse by the requirement to buy four. This put tickets out of reach of many of Michael's African-American fans who were not financially secure. At this time, Michael was already being blasted about his physical look and music separating him from his race.  That community was joined by many commentators in the media in criticizing the Jackson's over the plan. Nevertheless, it worked, and people were lining up to get their newspapers to sign up for the lottery. On July 5, 1984, after receiving a letter from eleven-year-old fan Ladonna Jones, who accused the Jacksons and their promoters of being "selfish and just out for money," Michael held a press conference to announce changes in the tour's organization and also to announce that his share of the proceeds from the tour would be donated to charity. Jones later received VIP treatment at the Dallas concert. The following is Michael's speech at the press conference: "A lot of people are having trouble getting tickets. The other day I got a letter from a fan in Texas named Ladonna Jones. She'd been saving her money from odd jobs to buy a ticket, but with the turned tour system, she'd have to buy four tickets and she couldn't afford that. So, we asked our promoter to work out a new way of distributing tickets, a way that no longer requires a money order. There has also been a lot of talk about the promoter holding money for tickets that didn't sell. I've asked our promoter to end the mail order ticket system as soon as possible so that no one will pay money unless they get a ticket. Finally, and most importantly, there's something else I am going to announce today. I want you to know that I decided to donate all my money I make from our performance to charity. There will be further press statements released in the next two weeks."   Some procedures were modified; however, the ticket price remained unchanged, and at a press conference, Don King justified the $30 fee as appropriate and that he did not blame the promoters for charging that price, adding that "you must understand, you get what you pay for." During the last concert of the Victory Tour at the Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles, Jackson announced his split from The Jacksons during "Shake Your Body".   His charitable work continued with the release of "We Are the World" (1985), co-written with future Icon Lionel Richie, which raised money for the poor in the U.S. and Africa. It earned $63 million (equivalent to $158,728,032 in 2021) and became one of the best-selling singles, with 20 million copies sold. It won four Grammy Awards in 1985, including Song of the Year for Michael and Lionel as its writers.    Michael collaborated with Sir Paul McCartney in the early 1980s and learned that Paul was making $40 million a year from owning the rights to other artists' songs. By 1983, Michael had begun buying publishing rights to others' songs, but he was careful with his purchases, only bidding on a few of the dozens offered to him. Michael's early buys included Sly and the Family Stone's "Everyday People" (1968), Len Barry's "1–2–3" (1965), Dion DiMucci's "The Wanderer" (1961), and "Runaround Sue" (1961).   In 1984, it was announced that the publishing rights to nearly 4000 songs from ATV Music, including most of the Beatles' material, were coming up for sale. In 1981, Paul McCartney was offered the catalog for £20 million ($40 million). Michael submitted a bid of $46 million on November 20, 1984. When Michael and Paul were unable to make a joint purchase, McCartney did not want to be the sole owner of the Beatles' songs, and did not pursue an offer on his own. At first, Michael's team couldn't figure it out and walked away, but then they heard someone else was looking to buy them. Michael's increased bid of $47.5 million (equivalent to $119,675,897 in 2021) was accepted because he could close the deal faster. His purchase of ATV Music was finalized on August 10, 1985.   So, at this time, why was Michael being questioned about his look and his music? As a child, Michael had a sweet, dark-skinned appearance; many early Jackson 5 fans regarded him as the cutest of the brothers. J. Randy Taraborrelli, author of Michael Jackson: The Magic and the Madness, has written, "[Michael] believed his skin… 'messed up my whole personality.' He no longer looked at people as he talked to them. His playful personality changed, and he became quieter and more serious. He thought he was ugly – his skin was too dark, he decided, and his nose too wide. It was no help that his insensitive father and brothers called him 'Big Nose.'" Also, as Jackson became an adolescent, he was horribly self-conscious about acne. Hilburn recalled going through a stack of photos with Jackson one night and coming across a picture of him as a teenager: "'Ohh, that's horrible,' [Jackson] said, recoiling from the picture."   The face Jackson displayed on the cover of Thriller had changed; the skin tone seemed lighter and his nose thinner and straighter. In his book, Moonwalk, Michael claimed that much of the physical overhaul was due to a change in his diet; he admitted to altering his nose and chin, but he denied he'd done anything to his skin. Still, the changes didn't end there. Over the years, Michael's skin grew lighter and lighter, his nose tapered more and more, and his cheekbones became more defined. This all became fair game for mockery to some; to others, it seemed like mutilation – not just because it might have been an act of conceit, aimed to keep him looking child-like, but worse because some believed Michael wanted to transform himself into a white person. Or an androgyne – somebody with both male and female traits.  Michael's art was still his best way of making a case for himself at that time. Then, in 1987, he released Bad, his highly-anticipated successor to Thriller. It may not have been as eventful and ingenious as Off the Wall and Thriller, but Bad was awesome.    It became the first album to produce five U.S. number-one singles: "I Just Can't Stop Loving You," "Bad," "The Way You Make Me Feel," "Man in the Mirror," and "Dirty Diana.", which you can hear our version at the end of this episode. Another song, "Smooth Criminal," peaked at number seven. Bad won the 1988 Grammy for Best Engineered Recording – Non-Classical and the 1990 Grammy Award for Best Music Video, Short Form for "Leave Me Alone". Michael won an Award of Achievement at the American Music Awards in 1989 after Bad generated five number-one singles, became the first album to top the charts in 25 countries, and the best-selling album worldwide in 1987 and 1988. By 2012, it had sold between 30 and 45 million copies worldwide. Oh, and it was considered a "flop." Oh, and The title track for the Bad album was supposed to be a duet with Prince. But the latter walked away from it due to the opening line "Your butt is mine". "Now, who is going to sing that to whom? Cause [he] sure ain't singing that to me, and I sure ain't singing it to [him]," Prince said in a TV interview with American comedian Chris Rock.   Later that year, Michael staged his first solo tour, The Bad World Tour. It ran from September 12, 1987, to January 14, 1989. The tour had 14 sellouts in Japan and drew 570,000 people, nearly tripling the previous record for a single tour. In addition, the 504,000 people who attended seven sold-out shows at Wembley Stadium set a new Guinness World Record.   In 1988, Michael released the autobiography, as mentioned earlier, Moonwalk. It sold 200,000 copies and reached the top of the New York Times bestsellers list. In October, Michael released a film, Moonwalker, which featured live footage and short films starring himself and Goodfella star Joe Pesci. In the U.S., it was released direct-to-video and became the best-selling videocassette. The RIAA certified it as eight-time platinum. In March 1988, Jackson purchased 2,700 acres (11 km2) of land near Santa Ynez, California, to build a new home, Neverland Ranch, at $17 million (equivalent to $38,950,760 in 2021).   In 1991, Michael renewed his contract with Sony for $65 million (equivalent to $129,317,127 in 2021), a record-breaking deal. Also, in 1991, he released his eighth album, Dangerous, co-produced with Mr. Rumpshaker himself, Teddy Riley. It was certified eight times platinum in the U.S., and by 2018 had sold 32 million copies worldwide. In the U.S., the first single, "Black or White," was the album's highest-charting song; it was number one on the Billboard Hot 100 for seven weeks and achieved similar chart performances worldwide, and the video featured a very young Macauley Culkin.  The second single, "Remember the Time," peaked at number three on the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart, and that video featured Eddie Murphy. At the end of 1992, Dangerous was the best-selling album worldwide and "Black or White" the best-selling single of the year worldwide at the BillboardMusic Awards.   Obviously, Michael wanted to tour in promotion of his latest album, and The Dangerous World Tour ran between June 1992 and November 1993 and grossed $100 million (equivalent to $187,583,506 in 2021); Jackson performed for 3.5 million people in 70 concerts, all of which were outside the U.S. A part of the proceeds went to the Heal the World Foundation. In addition, Michael sold the broadcast rights of the tour to HBO for $20 million, a record-breaking deal that still hasn't been broken.   Also, in 1993, Michael performed at the Super Bowl 27 halftime show in Pasadena, California. The NFL wanted a prominent musical artist to keep ratings high during halftime. It was the first Super Bowl where the halftime performance drew higher audience figures than the game. Jackson played "Jam," "Billie Jean," "Black or White," and "Heal the World." Dangerous rose 90 places in the album chart after the performance   In January 1993, Michael won three American Music Awards for Favorite Pop/Rock Album (Dangerous), Favorite Soul/R&B Single ("Remember the Time"), and he was the first to win the International Artist Award of Excellence. In addition, he won the "Living Legend Award" at the 35th Annual Grammy Awards in Los Angeles in February. He attended the award ceremony with Brooke Shields. In addition, "Dangerous" was nominated for Best Vocal Performance (for "Black or White"), Best R&B Vocal Performance for "Jam," and Best R&B Song for "Jam."   In June 1995, Michael released the double album HIStory: Past, Present, and Future, Book I. The album debuted at number one on the charts and certified for eight million sold in the U.S. It is the best-selling multi-disc album of all time, with 20 million copies (40 million units) sold worldwide. In addition, HIStory received a Grammy nomination for Album of the Year. The first single from HIStory was "Scream/Childhood." "Scream" was a duet with Michael's youngest sister Janet, or "Miss Jackson if you're nasty." The single reached number five on the Billboard Hot 100 and received a Grammy nomination for "Best Pop Collaboration with Vocals." Also, at the time, in 1995, it was the most expensive music video ever produced. It had a budget of 7 million dollars. FOR ONE VIDEO!!  His second single, "You Are Not Alone," holds the Guinness world record for the first song to debut at number one on the Billboard Hot 100 chart. In addition, it received a Grammy nomination for "Best Pop Vocal Performance" in 1995.   In November of the same year, Michael merged his ATV Music catalog with Sony's music publishing division, creating Sony/ATV Music Publishing. He kept ownership of half the company, earning $95 million upfront (equivalent to $168,941,909 in 2021) and the rights to a ton more songs.   Michael promoted HIStory with the obviously named HIStory World Tour, from September 7, 1996, to October 15, 1997. He performed 82 concerts in five continents, 35 countries, and 58 cities to over 4.5 million fans, making it his most attended tour. It grossed $165 million, or $302,346,462 today.   In 1997, Michael released Blood on the Dance Floor: HIStory in the Mix, which contained remixes of singles from HIStory and five new songs. Worldwide sales stand at 6 million copies, making it the best-selling remix album ever. It reached number one in the U.K., as did the title track. In the U.S., the album reached number 24 and was certified platinum. Yeah, a remix album going platinum.   From October 1997 to September 2001, Michael worked on his tenth solo album, Invincible, which cost $30 million to record! Invincible was released on October 30, 2001. It was his first full-length album in six years and the last album of original material he would release in his lifetime. It debuted at number one in 13 countries, sold eight million copies worldwide, and went double platinum.   In September 2001, Michael performed in two "30th Anniversary concerts" with his brothers for the first time since 1984. The show also featured Mýa, Usher, Whitney Houston, Destiny's Child, Monica, Liza Minnelli, and Slash.    On January 9, 2002, Michael won his 22nd American Music Award for Artist of the Century.   On November 18, 2003, Sony released Number Ones, a greatest hits compilation. It was certified five-times platinum by the RIAA, and nine times platinum in the UK, for shipments of at least 2.7 million units.   During this time, allegations of child sexual abuse, and the trials that followed, were all over the news. If you're unfamiliar, you can research it for yourself.  Unfortunately, Michael's finances were also coming undone; he had been spending ludicrous sums, and he'd mismanaged his money – which took some doing since he had made such a vast fortune. As a result, the biggest star in the world had fallen from the tallest height. He left the country and moved to Bahrain, where it was announced that Jackson had signed a contract with a Bahrain-based startup, Two Seas Records; nothing came of the deal, and Two Seas CEO Guy Holmes, later said it was never finalized. That October, Fox News reported that Michael had been recording at a studio in County Westmeath, Ireland. It was unknown what he was working on or who had paid for the sessions; his publicist stated that he had left Two Seas by then. After that, Michael was only occasionally seen or heard from. Nobody knew whether he could recover his name or preserve his undeniable music legacy until he announced an incredibly ambitious series of 50 concerts – which he described as the "final curtain call."    The "This Is It" shows were his first significant concerts since the HIStory World Tour in 1997. Michael suggested he would retire after the shows. The initial plan was for 10 concerts in London, followed by shows in Paris, New York City, and Mumbai. Randy Phillips, president, and chief executive of AEG Live, predicted the first 10 dates would earn Jackson £50 million, or close to 63 Million US dollars. After record-breaking ticket sales, the London shows were increased to 50 dates; over one million tickets were sold in less than two hours. The concerts were to run from July 13, 2009, to March 6, 2010. Michael moved back to Los Angeles, where he rehearsed in the weeks leading up to the tour under the direction of choreographer Kenny Ortega, whom he had worked with during his previous tours. Most rehearsals took place at the Staples Center, which was owned by AEG.   It's hard to believe that Jackson, who was so proud of his public performances and so peerless at delivering them, would have committed himself to a project he might fail so tremendously. At the same time, it is not inconceivable that Michael Jackson could have been a man half-hungry and broken in the past few years. All that is certain is that on June 25, in Los Angeles, Michael Jackson met the only sure redemption he might know in the most famous unexpected, and mysterious death in current history. That redemption didn't come because he died, but because his death forced us to reconsider what his life added up to. Less than three weeks before the first This Is It show was due to kick off in London, with all concerts sold out, I repeat; sold out, Michael Jackson died from cardiac arrest caused by a propofol and benzodiazepine overdose. Conrad Murray, his personal physician, had given Michael different medications to help him sleep at his rented mansion in Holmby Hills, Los Angeles. Paramedics received a 911 call at 12:22 pm Pacific time and arrived three minutes later. He wasn't breathing, and the medics performed CPR. Resuscitation efforts continued en route to Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center and for more than an hour after Michael's arrival, but were unsuccessful, and Michael Jackson, the king of pop, was pronounced dead at 2:26 pm.   News of his death spread quickly online, causing websites to slow down, crash from user overload, and put unprecedented strain on services and websites, including Google, AOL Instant Messenger, Twitter, and Wikipedia. Overall, web traffic rose by between 11% and 20%. MTV and BET aired marathons of Michael's music videos, and specials aired on television stations worldwide. MTV briefly returned to its original music video format, which is messed up that it took an Icon to die for MTV to actually be MUSIC TELEVISION, and they aired hours of Michael's music videos, with live news specials featuring reactions and interviews from MTV personalities and other celebrities.   His memorial was held on July 7, 2009, at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, preceded by a private family service at Forest Lawn Memorial Park's Hall of Liberty. Over 1.6 million fans applied for tickets to the memorial; the 8,750 recipients were drawn at random, and each received two tickets. The memorial service was one of the most-watched events in streaming history, with an estimated US audience of 31.1 million and an estimated 2.5 to 3 billion worldwide. Mariah Carey, Stevie Wonder, Lionel Richie, Jennifer Hudson, and others performed at the memorial, and Smokey Robinson and Queen Latifah gave eulogies. Reverend Al Sharpton received a standing ovation with cheers when he told Michael's children: "Wasn't nothing strange about your daddy. It was strange what your daddy had to deal with. But he dealt with it anyway." Michael's 11-year-old daughter Paris Katherine, wept as she addressed the crowd. Michael's body was entombed on September 3, 2009, at Forest Lawn Memorial Park in Glendale, California.   Oh, but wait. There's more. But of course there is. It's Michael Jackson!   His doctor was initially charged with involuntary manslaughter and was found guilty. So he was sentenced to four years. Yep... four friggin years.    After his death, Michael was still winning awards. He won 4 awards at 2009's AMA's, bringing his total AMA wins to 26, something no one else has touched.    The documentary "Michael Jackson's This Is It" came out shortly after, and I have seen it and loved it, as sad as it was knowing that he'd never get to perform those concerts. Despite a limited two-week engagement, the film became the highest-grossing documentary or concert film ever, with more than $260 million worldwide earnings.

Jamie & Alyssa explore the world of period crafts and menstrual blood magic. Will we write the names of our enemies in blood? We shall see. Being a woman is cool! Also some personal stories you don't want to miss, including Jamie's Neverland Ranch! If you can't handle period things, cause you're a weird adult baby - skip to the middle.Write us some of your cringe stories at nervouslaughterpodcast@gmail.comThe socials: Instagram | Facebook | Twitter

Ross Kemp has just ‘exposed' Michael Jackson in a documentary about the treatment of animals in the zoo in the Neverland Ranch, Rob thinks it's the most pointless documentary ever! Listen in to hear his thoughts and why we need more balance on media too!   KEY TAKEAWAYS   What is the point of doing an expose on Michael Jackson when he died 15 years ago. Ross Kemp is arguably a credible documentarian, why is he spending his time on something which is ancient history. There's no art or point in this documentary.   Rob was talking to Michael's good friend Matt Fiddes just yesterday, being his ex-bodyguard and friend he can give a balanced view on Michael and how he lives his life. He wants to give the other side of the story and does so on his podcast: The Matt Fiddes Show: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-matt-fiddes-show/id1565972831   BEST MOMENTS   “Michael Jackson has been dead for nearly 15 years, so what's the point”   “Ross Kemp, go back to doing good work!”   “There's not enough balance on media”   VALUABLE RESOURCES https://robmoore.com/   bit.ly/Robsupporter     https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-matt-fiddes-show/id1565972831   https://robmoore.com/podbooks   ABOUT THE HOST Rob Moore is an author of 9 business books, 5 UK bestsellers, holds 3 world records for public speaking, entrepreneur, property investor, and property educator. Author of the global bestseller “Life Leverage” Host of UK's No.1 business podcast “The Disruptive Entrepreneur”   “If you don't risk anything, you risk everything”     CONTACT METHOD Rob's official website: https://robmoore.com/     Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robmooreprogressive/?ref=br_rs     LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/robmoore1979     See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Everyone thought that Michael Jackson hit his peak with the Thriller album. Then, in 1987, there was Bad.It was another high for Michael that was muddied by controversy. Between the purchase of the mysterious Neverland Ranch and an office break-in, the wild ride was not going to stop.Join us for the hits and the slights on the Rock and Roll Heaven Podcast!Our social stuff:Patreon.com/rockandrollheavenTwitter: @rockandrollltInstagram: RockandrollheavenltFacebook: Rock and Roll Heaven PodOur website: https://rockandrollheavenl.wixsite.com/mysiteTick Tok: rockandrollheavenpodEmail us! rockandrollheavenlt@gmail.comCheck out the other awesome Pantheon Podcast at www.pantheonpodcasts.comFor 10 % off your first month at Better help use the code ROCKHEAVEN

Everyone thought that Michael Jackson hit his peak with the Thriller album. Then, in 1987, there was Bad. It was another high for Michael that was muddied by controversy. Between the purchase of the mysterious Neverland Ranch and an office break-in, the wild ride was not going to stop. Join us for the hits and the slights on the Rock and Roll Heaven Podcast! Our social stuff: Patreon.com/rockandrollheaven Twitter: @rockandrolllt Instagram: Rockandrollheavenlt Facebook: Rock and Roll Heaven Pod Our website: https://rockandrollheavenl.wixsite.com/mysite Tick Tok: rockandrollheavenpod Email us! rockandrollheavenlt@gmail.com Check out the other awesome Pantheon Podcast at www.pantheonpodcasts.com For 10 % off your first month at Better help use the code ROCKHEAVEN Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Everyone thought that Michael Jackson hit his peak with the Thriller album. Then, in 1987, there was Bad.It was another high for Michael that was muddied by controversy. Between the purchase of the mysterious Neverland Ranch and an office break-in, the wild ride was not going to stop.Join us for the hits and the slights on the Rock and Roll Heaven Podcast!Our social stuff:Patreon.com/rockandrollheavenTwitter: @rockandrollltInstagram: RockandrollheavenltFacebook: Rock and Roll Heaven PodOur website: https://rockandrollheavenl.wixsite.com/mysiteTick Tok: rockandrollheavenpodEmail us! rockandrollheavenlt@gmail.comCheck out the other awesome Pantheon Podcast at www.pantheonpodcasts.comFor 10 % off your first month at Better help use the code ROCKHEAVEN

Everyone thought that Michael Jackson hit his peak with the Thriller album. Then, in 1987, there was Bad. It was another high for Michael that was muddied by controversy. Between the purchase of the mysterious Neverland Ranch and an office break-in, the wild ride was not going to stop. Join us for the hits and the slights on the Rock and Roll Heaven Podcast! Our social stuff: Patreon.com/rockandrollheaven Twitter: @rockandrolllt Instagram: Rockandrollheavenlt Facebook: Rock and Roll Heaven Pod Our website: https://rockandrollheavenl.wixsite.com/mysite Tick Tok: rockandrollheavenpod Email us! rockandrollheavenlt@gmail.com Check out the other awesome Pantheon Podcast at www.pantheonpodcasts.com For 10 % off your first month at Better help use the code ROCKHEAVEN Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

S03E05: Abandoned Waterparks and Neverland Ranch.   The heyday of bad-idea waterparks, when the kids were probably drunk and their 1980s parents decided to just roll the dice on safety, and the dark and over-the-top remnants of Neverland Ranch. (Content warning: We primarily focus on the actual structures and items inside, but do acknowledge the abuse. If that's something you'd prefer to avoid, skip ahead to Haley's story.) Show notes: https://www.bonesandbobbins.com/2022/03/26/season-3-episode-05

In this week's episode of Living in the Sprawl: Southern California's Most Adventurous Podcast, host Jon Steinberg shares his list of Southern California's 10 most distinctive houses. His list includes: the Spadena House in Beverly Hills, the Mushroom House in La Jolla, the Skinny House in Long Beach, Neverland Ranch in the Santa Ynez Valley, Rubell Castle in Glendora, Sunny Lands in Rancho Mirage, Chemosphere in the Hollywood Hills, the Stimson House in University Park, Hearst Castle in San Simeon and the Manor in Holmby Hills.Instagram: @livinginthesprawlpodcastEmail: livinginthesprawlpodcast@gmail.comWebsite: www.livinginthesprawlpodcast.comCheck out our favorite CBD gummy company...it helps us get better sleep and stay chill. Use code "SPRAWL" for 20% off.  https://www.justcbdstore.com?aff=645Check out Goldbelly for all your favorite US foods to satisfy those cravings or bring back some nostalgia. Our favorites include Junior's Chessecakes from New York, Lou Malnati's deep dish pizza from Chicago and a philly cheesesteak from Pat's. Use the link https://goldbelly.pxf.io/c/2974077/1032087/13451 to check out all of the options and let them know we sent you.Use code "SPRAWL" for (2) free meals and free delivery on your first Everytable subscription.Support the podcast and future exploration adventures. We are working on unique perks and will give you a shout out on the podcast to thank you for your contribution!Living in the Sprawl: Southern California's Most Adventurous Podcast is on Podfanhttps://www.buymeacoffee.com/sprawl Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/livinginthesprawlpodcast)

Episode 4: Grab a pen and your notebook because in this episode we're sharing all the details from the infamous Clive Davis Pre-Grammy Party the night Whitney Houston died. The Beverly Hilton was buzzing with media and celebrities while Whitney's body was still upstairs. We find out who was in attendance, what was the mood, who performed, what was on the dinner menu, and why the party wasn't cancelled.Then  we introduce the most outrageous party guest yet: Raffles Van Exel, a celebrity hanger-on and member of Whitney's entourage. Buckle up because this is one wild ride: from "How To" Con videos, to sneaking into the Neverland Ranch, to finessing his way into owning part of a music icon's estate. You won't want to miss the story of Raffles.LinksChaka Khan, Clive Davis Party was 'Insanity." (YouTube 2012).Clive Davis On Why He Had Grammy Party After Whitney Houston's Death | Larry King Now. (YouTube 2013).Jennifer Hudson - I Will Always Love You (54th GRAMMYs on CBS). (YouTube 2012)Is Raffles Van Exel Really Serious (YouTube 2012).Roger Friedman Calls for Investigation into Raffles Van Exel (YouTube 2012)Who is Raffles Van Exel (YouTube 2012)ResourcesBruntjen v. Van Exel, 506 F. Supp. 3d 673 (D. Minn. 2020)County of Los Angeles. (2012). Coroner's Report (Case No. 2012-01022). Los Angeles, CA. Retrieved from abcnews.comFranciscan, Chris and Brittany Bacon. "ABC News Exclusive: 'If I Did It': OJ's Daughter's Idea. abcnews.com, 16 June 2007.Friedman, Roger. "Exclusive Notes From Clive Davis Grammy Party." Showbiz411.com. 12 February 2012.Jackson v. Stark, State Court of Minnesota. (2020)Reilly, Mark. "Prince estate fights even thornier with heir's death and will." Minneapolis/St. Paul Business Journal. 23 February 2020.Seal, Mark. "The Devils in the Diva." Vanity Fair, June 2012.Shoemaker, Jessica. "Death of Prince heir prompts contested will." Missouri Lawyers Media. 28 February 2020. Simpson, Arnelle. Deposition. United States Bankruptcy Court S.D. Fla. 2007.Sisario, Ben. "Whitney Houston's Estate Plans Hologram Tour and a New Album." New York Times. 20 May 2019.Whitney. Directed by Kevin Macdonald. Produced by Lisa Erspamer Entertainment, Lightbox, Roadside Attractions, and Miramax. 2018.Whitney Houston & Bobbi Kristina: Didn't We Almost Have It All. Lifetime Television, 2021.

This week we sit down with sisters Juliana & Nicky Giraffe to discuss their film We Saw Ourselves Dreaming, the art of mime, their journey as artists, Nicky's stay at Neverland Ranch, the new Beatles doc, boys & more. Their film premieres on Dec. 11th at Brain Dead Studios. See more of their work here.