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Aaron's got the controls this week while Steve hangs with Mickey Mouse, Joey celebrates his birthday, the Summer of John continues, and Bob participates in a British Bake-Off! This episode discusses superheroes, Sinners, our hopes for the Comixology competitor, Neon Ichiban, and more!Books: Fantastic Four: Fanfare #2, Zatanna #5, Great British Bump-Off: Kill of Be Quilt #3, Jeff the Land Shark #1, Batman/Superman: World's Finest #39, Justice League: Unlimited #7, Ultimate X-Men #1-16, Exquisite Corpses #2Other Stuff: Batman: Under the Red Hood (animated movie), Superman/Batman: Apocalypse (animated movie), Sinners (movie), Disney's Zombies (TV movies)The Comic Book Podcast is brought to you by Talking Comics (www.talkingcomicbooks.com). The podcast is hosted by Steve Seigh, Bob Reyer, Joey Braccino, Aaron Amos, Chris Ceary, and John Burkle, who weekly dissect everything comics-related, from breaking news to new releases. Our Instagram handle is @TalkingComicsPodcas, and you can email us at podcast@talkingcomicbooks.com.

Welcome to the podcast   Sara and Anna recount a lively weekend in London, filled with early morning flights, extensive shopping sprees, and an exhilarating bake-off competition reminiscent of the British Bake-Off. Despite an intense contest and unexpected third-place finish, the highlight was the family visit to a wedding fair in preparation for an upcoming wedding. Love Desk: Are singles ghosting the data apps Societal trends suggest a decline in dating app users and the shifting dynamics of relationships, as more people seek genuine connections outside the digital realm. Discover the surprising rise of friend-finding apps and the complex discussion surrounding the diminishing appeal of dating apps among younger generations. Hot Topic: The pressure to look good in a relationship The pressure of maintaining appearances in relationships, addressing issues like body image, societal beauty standards, and the controversial rise of medications like Ozempic for weight loss. There is a tension between body positivity and societal expectations, revealing the challenges of navigating beauty standards in today's world. Question: The curse of a personal trainer  This weeks relationship challenge, particularly those involving trust and boundaries in the age of social media. The episode offers thoughtful insights into the balance between maintaining a public persona and ensuring a stable, trusting relationship. Till next time! Sara Liddle Email: info@inflori.co.uk Website: www.inflori.co.uk Relationship Reset: www.inflori.co.uk/reset   Anna Stratis Email: coachdocanna@gmail.com  Website: www.coachdocanna.com

Swanner and Judd talk about: Survivor; British Bake Off; Interior Chinatown; Top Chef Brazil; The Inside Man; Starship Troopers 1,2,3; Moana 2; and more! Left Click To Listen, Right Click Here To Download

Swanner and Judd talk about: Holiday Baking Contest; British Bake Off; High Potential; St Denis Medical; Saturn 3; The Switchblade Sisters; Spider Baby and more! Left Click To Listen, Right Click Here To Download

Michael shares an update on the devastation of Hurricane Helene to his Savannah area and the entire southeast. Help those effected by donating to the Red Cross, World Central Kitchen, or buy gift cards to local businesses.The Presidents Cup in Montreal was a golden moment for Keagan Bradley, who after being left off last year's Ryder Cup, clinched the winning point for Team USA. The guys break down the win, look at the International's chances to actually get a close Sunday final, and Michael asks Alex is Keagan Bradley is a Hall of Famer.The LPGA's Walmart NW Arkansas Championship presented by P&G Sunday finish included low rounds of 60 and 61, and an electric two hole playoff.Alex was fully entrenched in the Austin East Side Mini Open again this weekend, where he judged the bar crawl mini golf holes for the second year. Check out his videos on Instagram. Next Alex heads to the HEB Center for some Beach Volleyball (in Austin, TX!) where some Paris Olympians will volley for a win in the AVP League.In Tuned In, Michael is watching the new season of British Bake Off, which now has an American competitor! Meanwhile, Alex is engrossed in the new Alex Hernandez mini-series.This week's guest is Bryan Evans, owner of Texas Two-Step Gaming, a gambling-like establishment outside of Austin, TX that gives back to the community. Bryan shares how he went from the military to owning the new gaming venue, how the laws allow these Vegas-style games to be played in Texas, and why its so important to give back to the local community.The WNBA Playoffs roll on, now without Caitlin Clark. The guys are jumping on the Connecticut Sun bandwagon and hope to see the trophy brought to New England.In College Football, the rankings got all kicked around as Georgia fell and Alabama rose, but Alex's Baby Bets continue to hit.In the NFL, meanwhile, Alex and Michael's teams continue to be stinkers, and Michael asks which undefeated team has the best chance of running the table.The MLB Postseason is about to kick off, and while Alex is rooting for the Brewers, Michael knows everyone really wants the Dodgers and Yankees in the World Series.In #AlwaysEndWithFood, Alex shares the best of the food truck game from the East Side Mini Open, and what he's now griddling up on his Blackstone. Support our friends!Save 10% on a Phone Caddy, Swing Aide Tumbler, and everything else with promo code COURSEOFLIFE at DesertFoxGolf.comUse our special link - https://zen.ai/thecourseoflife - to save 30% off your first month of any Zencastr paid plan. Listen + Love + Subscribe: https://podfollow.com/1437411449Support the First Tee - Greater Austin: https://bit.ly/3n09U4IJoin us on Facebook: http://bit.ly/2NpEIKJFollow us on Instagram: https://bit.ly/2QJhZLQWatch us on YouTube: http://bit.ly/3qvq4Dt

Hello, everyone, I'm Siobhan Daniels, your guide and host of the Retirement Rebel podcast. As we delve into another revitalising discussion, I'd like to share with you the three key subjects we touched upon in our introduction today.First, we extend our deepest appreciation to you, our valued listeners, for joining us in this journey. The podcast isn't simply a platform for conversation; it's a growing rebellion against the outdated notions of what it means to be over 60. Your time, engagement, and the willingness to explore new chapters in your life are the very essence of the Retirement Rebel spirit.The second key subject is empowerment through shared stories. By weaving a rich tapestry of diverse experiences, including our special guests and my own, we aim to provide a voice and a sense of kinship. I've personally shared my rebel journey, breaking free from the conventional retirement path, and we encourage you to share your stories as well. We invite you to join the conversation on social media or email us, as your rebel stories have the power to inspire others to break moulds and stereotypes.Finally, the third subject that we introduced was the importance of our growing community. As we challenge the narrative around life after 60, it's crucial that we reach as many listeners as possible. When you share this episode with others, you help the community thrive and reinforce the message that ageing can be an adventure filled with purpose and passion. By banding together, we can change the dialogue surrounding retirement, one story at a time.So let's continue to defy expectations and embrace our inner rebel by living life on our own terms. Join me for this and every episode as we celebrate the lively, challenging, and promising years that lie ahead.Remember, every wrinkle tells a story of laughter, every grey hair a tale of wisdom, and every step we take together is one further away from the shadows of ageism and one closer to a life lived fully.Don't forget to follow / subscribe to the podcast for FREE on your podcast app of choice, or play it directly from the website: www.retirementrebel.co.ukKey Points:05:30 - Invitation to Share StoriesListeners are encouraged to share their personal 'rebel stories' via social media or email, promoting audience engagement and building community within the podcast's listener base.10:15 - Growth and CommunityA call to action for listeners to share the episode with others in order to expand the reach of the podcast and foster a growing network of Retirement Rebels.14:00 - Contacting the PodcastDetails are provided on how to get in touch with the podcast's team, including the website address retirementrebel.co.uk, and the importance of connecting with the Retirement Rebel community.19:05 - Introducing Karen WrightSiobhan Daniels introduces Karen Wright, detailing her background and achievements, including handling her divorce, moving to Greece, and tackling new challenges like publishing her cookery book.25:20 - Karen on The Great British Bake OffThe discussion moves to Karen's inspiring journey on The Great British Bake Off at 60, how it changed her perspective on life, and encouraged others to challenge their self-limiting beliefs.32:40 - Overcoming Self-Limiting Beliefs and AgeismKaren and Siobhan share personal experiences on defying ageist stereotypes and the societal view of ageing, highlighting their own paths to empowerment and independence.40:25 - Family Inspirations and Changing Women's RolesKaren discusses the influence of her mother and grandmother on her perspective towards women's roles and opportunities, and how she encourages embracing future adventures.47:50 - The Rebel Spirit in ActionSiobhan asks Karen...

Writer, comedian and broadcaster Sandi Toksvig was born in Denmark to a Danish father and English mother and was brought up in Europe, Africa and the United States. She's done it all; politics, children's books, theatre plays, the great British Bake Off, and taken part in pretty much every panel show worth its salt, including of course hosting QI, the much loved and quite interesting panel show she's hosted on television since 2016. She was one of the members of the first all female comedy groups at Cambridge's Footlights whilst gaining a first class degree, and in 2015 she co founded the Women's Equality Party. President of the Writers Guild of Great Britain, her writing credits take in radio, television and the stage. Inherited: Secret Love by The Oscar Peterson Trio Passed on: Don't Rain on my Parade by Barbara StreisandProducer: Ben Mitchell

On this episode we sample the Port Askaig 8 Year Single Malt Scotch Whisky and the Port Askaig 110 Proof Single Malt Scotch Whisky while discussing buying clothes, Nick's monochromatic nature, these pants are your problem now, Texas trip, UK centric things, A Flaviar reminder: DrepandStone15, Beckham documentary on Netflix, bending it like…, British Bake Off, eye foot coordination, never being good enough, English footbal rules, the most hated man in England, flambéed marshmallows, and DB's whisk(e)y of choice.  Support Us On Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/DrepandStone Use the promo code DrepandStone15 to Get 15% off your order from Flaviar.com We'd love to hear from you! https://linktr.ee/DrepandStone Don't forget to subscribe! Music by @joakimkarudmusic Episode #218

In our eighty-first episode, Robbie and Ryan talk about:Emails! Send us one: goinggreypod@gmail.com (Segments start at 03:33)Oh, that's nice: Family dinner, being Italian, going away, Bea and Remi, and Trader Joe'sWho Asked You?: Train seats, stickers, and gelatoWell That's Great: A.I. and golfI don't get it: When you used to say you liked something but didn't know itSports: Football and the National Taylor LeagueEntertainment: Streaming prices, British Bake Off, Loki, and a new JFK DocumentaryMusic: Drake's new album and internet activityCheck out "Let the Boys Watch" with cousin Benny! https://linktr.ee/lettheboyswatchFollow us on InstagramGoodnight to the Olive Garden, and like we said before... when you're here, you're family! Bongiorno Boys!

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Marv chats with Sean from "[sigh] Review It Yourself" about films, and so much more. They even broach the subject of Sean's plethora of subseries, which include Defend It Yourself, Visit It Yourself, Explain It Yourself, the British Bake Off reactions, Beverages With Bill, and so many more.  Trust me, I know how long this episode is, and I did try to edit it down.  But I just couldn't find anything that wasn't necessary!  I cut out around 5 minutes, with three and a half minutes of that being a trip to the toilet, and no one wants to hear that! Outside of show time, Marv and Sean chatted for about another hour or so. Get yourself a pot of tea, a box of Family Choice biscuits, and listen to two guys chatting about stuff for a ridiculously long time! https://podfollow.com/1590846415/  

British Bake-off Star and renowned cook and Author, Prue Leith joined Jonathan on the show as she brings her tales of wisdom to Olympia theatre next year.

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This week on Chris's Corner I speak on one of the funniest articles I've read in a while, this article said that the British Bake Off was racist for wearing sombreros and ponchos on Mexican week. I don't normally take the Micky Mouse out of people on the podcast, but this week was an exception. I also talk about some of the political history behind the current Russian Ukraine war and how there was another silly article published saying that the memes and social media support for Ukraine was winning them the war. I'm mean at what point do people verify these articles and go "Yeah this seems like it's ok to let the general public read". Anyway, This is the last podcast filmed in the Wiltshire setup so from now on the podcast will have a nice new look to it. As always I hope you enjoy this week's podcast and I hope to see you this time next week! The British BakeOff is Racist: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/14/dining/great-british-bake-off-mexican-week.html Ukraine Meme War: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63272202

Welcome back to the Jojitorium! The Boys jump right into how dogs are taking jobs from pro wrestlers, what the best response to "I love you" is, when is it a good time to bail on a coffee shop, and so much more! We feature our friends at Sugar Coated Murder in this one! If you like baked goods and true crime, you'll love Karen and Anne. These two sisters bring the best of both worlds to you in their podcast so you can become the true crime news hound you've always wanted to be and kill the challenges in the British Bake Off at the same time https://bleav.com/shows/sugar-coated-murder/ You can support The Boys by checking out the link below to subscribe to our YouTube channel, follow us on social media, get on the hype train with GoodPods, or grab a shirt from our store: https://linktr.ee/decayinwtb Cheers!

"The British Bake-Off" host Paul Hollywood gets back to basics in his new cookbook, "Bake: My Best Ever Recipes for the Classics." Hollywood joins us to talk more about his new release, the first one in five years. And, after 50 years as a beloved local landmark, the Village 8 Theater in Louisville, Kentucky is shuttering its doors. WFPL's Stephanie Wolf visits the theater to report on its last days.

The very first vegan British Bake Off episode! Lisa and Allison embrace this episode of vegan pastries, pavlovas and celebration cakes. The girls talk about aquafaba and their mutual love for meringue. All the while they continuously praise the bakes of bakers Kim-Joy and Rahul. The side streets abound with Lisa's nutritional yeast knowledge,  and, memories of poke cakes from the 1980's.Allison introduces the founder of aquafaba, then reveals his surprising location. Vegan week!Connect with us:https://soggybottomgirls.comFollow us on social media:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/soggybottomgirlsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/soggybottomgirls/

Sue travels to Margate to meet the lovely people at Speciality Breads, the artisan bakers. Neil, the development chef explains the range of products they make, then Sue goes for a tour around the factory to watch them make a huge batch of teacakes. Meanwhile, Neil can't help himself and cooks up a real treat for Sue's lunch which is waiting for her when she gets back to meet Simon the managing director. It looks like a scene out of British Bake Off. Yum!

Another 60+ bakers have been seen which means it's time for a yet another British Bake Off tournament. Who will come out on top? Will Mrs. Manson listen for all the great Jurgen talk> This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

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My guest this week is a star of Netflix period drama Bridgerton and Channel 4 sitcom Derry Girls. Nicola Coughlan grew up in Oranmore, Ireland and began her acting career at the age of 10. Since then she's had roles in film and TV and live theatre. I'm Steven Carter-Bailey and welcome to Feed My Curiosity. This brand-new podcast is all about our personal relationships with food. I bake each of my fabulous guests a cake of their choice to enjoy as we discuss their childhood favourites, food first loves, cooking disasters and their guilty pleasures.Feed My Curiosity is brought to you in association with the Cook Expert from Magimix. For a limited time you can enjoy 15% off a brand-new Cook Expert when you use the promo code FEEDMY15 at the checkout. T's & C's applyFind out more exclusively at https://www.stevencarterbailey.co.uk/magimix-terms-conditionsNew episodes will be released every Tuesday so don't forget to like and follow in your usual podcast app.Find out more about Steven at www.stevencarterbailey.co.ukFollow me on social media:www.instagram.com/spongecakesquaretinhttps://twitter.com/feedmypodcastThis podcast is produced by the www.thepodcastcoach.co.uk

We are over the moon this week to unite seasoned guests to the show MORGAN & BRAN TAYLOR. Bran turns the tables & asks US vegan advice (reviews, protein, meal prep), plus they give some advice to a listener who just came out!  We are also #blessed to have Portland Correspondent DAWN RIDDLE offer a review of Adult Parkour Lessons from the field.  FOODS DISCUSSED: Vtopia Brie, Sproud Milk, Sunflower Drive-in, True Nutrition.com, Dandies marshmallows, Soy nog & the British Bake Off!!!! 

T. Kyle and Bradley discuss the latest ‘British Bake Off' developments, a ‘Squid Game' Patreon bonus episode, the continued dragging of former Little Mix member Jesy Nelson, including a painful scalping by NPR, a UK Minute update from across the pond with ‘Drag Race UK,' including appearances from Steps (minus Lisa Scott-Lee) and Emma “Baby Spice” Bunton, High Fashion Editorial! featuring Meredith Marks at the Jen Shah vs. Brooks sit-down, Jamie Lee Curtis as her mother Janet Leigh at the ‘Halloween Kills' premiere, TikTok Talk featuring that iconic Barb Sachin who told Nicki Minaj to get back to work, mnmnooxx's Skinny Legend series and rising singer-songwriter Judy Garland going viral with her 1944 smash “The Trolley Song” among Gay Twitter, new music from SleepSleep (“The killer, he's escaping”), Pink Pantheress, Coldplay and Selena Gomez, Foxes, Smile and Robyn, Kelly Clarkson's very angry Christmas album, and of course, Adele's return with “Easy on Me,” '30,' and a continued feud with Peppa Pig. Stay safe, have fun, let us know who you're being for Halloween this year!We have merch! http://merch.legendsonlypodcast.com Listen to bonus episodes & join our Discord: http://patreon.com/legendsonly See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Annie and Jess start the show talking about the British Bake Off and the fuel shortage that actually is not a fuel shortage. Then, they welcome their guest “Polly” to talk about polyamory! She goes way deep talking about how she met her partners, how she handles jealousy and setting boundaries in her partnerships, the difference between monogamy and polyamory, some challenges that have come up, and the important things to know if you are thinking about opening up your relationship.   In This Episode You'll Hear About: An update on the lovely yet odd lady in the pool, and a new dude that needs to stay in his own lane. Remember at the beginning of the pandemic when we went crazy over toilet paper? That was weird. Polly believes that she gets more fulfillment out of life with different partners meeting different needs, instead of depending on just one person to try and meet all of them. Polly explains how she met all of her current partners and the different dynamics between them. What is the difference between polyamory and monogamy, and polyamory and fetish or swinging parties? The importance of openness and honesty with your partners if you are considering being poly. Why bringing in a third person just to spice up your relationship may not be the right idea. Want to hear more about Polly's fetishes and kinks? Make sure you tune back in just a few weeks in January!   Quote: “There's a fuel shortage, but there's actually no fuel shortage.” “I don't think there's anything that could shock me.”   Slide Into Our DM's: @talesofthenetherregions   Annie - @annienorrispole | Jessica - @jessicadeebank   Mentioned:  The Great British Bake Off  90 Day Fiance 

In this episode we bid goodbye to one of our precious own. Our number 3 on mic. He hasn't left for greener pastures, just bigger lighthouses and serenity.... or something like that.  Also discussed, are movies Quad likely forgot about or didn't know were coming anyway.  The Matrix Resurrections, Guilty and Hawkeye are in The Coming Soon segment. River Runner, Only Murders in the Building, Ted Lasso and The British Bake Off  are geeked out about.  We share some Headlines for the upcoming Catching Up With the Geeks in which Producer Kyle is oblivious to a riot happening outside her door, Neighbor Cole comes back from Vegas (again) and has secrets to share. Ginger is again at war with his neighbor lady over cats and he may be raising a Playboy Playmate. 

Welcome back to our virtual living room, because we have a lot of race and womanhood to discuss. Alexandra and Lenya are back for a new season with guests and hard topic discussions, unafraid to say what they think and discussing what it all means. This episode covers the ostracization of Olympic athletes like Simone Biles and Naomi Osaka, and how when they try to do the right thing for them, their team, and their country, they get ridiculed and worse in the press, all for trying to do a thing while being a Black woman. And it doesn’t just stop with the Olympics for athletes, but they also discuss how contestants on the British Bake Off, and F1 racing, and anyone on the internet can be subjected to anonymous hateful comments in the name of “free speech”, and there’s a nice rant about how social media platforms like Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and even TikTok delete posts and shadowban Black, Asain, and Indiginous creators, while condoning and allowing the hurtful posts against them. We still have a long uphill battle against us, but we’re here to talk about it, and we’re happy to have you with us! -- Please **rate and review** this podcast if you enjoyed it; reviews greatly help new listeners see this podcast is worth their time. You can find Women Bridging the Gap on [Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/women-bridging-the-gap/id1521503012) and [Podchaser](https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/women-bridging-the-gap-1304390). **We want to hear from you!** Let us know how you’re speaking about these issues with your friends. **Let us know what topics you want to hear!** Join the [Facebook Group](https://www.facebook.com/groups/665585734389981) Email us at [Lenya.Alexandra.BridgingtheGap@gmail.com](mailto:Lenya.Alexandra.BridgingtheGap@gmail.com) You can find us at: [WomenBridgingtheGap.com](https://womenbridgingthegap.com) Or on Instagram: * Find Lenya at: [@Lenya_goddess_the_one](https://www.instagram.com/lenya_goddess_the_one) * And Alexandra at: [@a_xandra17](https://www.instagram.com/a_xandra17) and [@thewritingleap](https://www.instagram.com/thewritingleap) * And the show is at: [@women_bridging_the_gap](https://www.instagram.com/women_bridging_the_gap/) This podcast was edited by Brendan Hutchins from Podcast Advocate. Go to [PodcastAdvocate.Network](http://PodcastAdvocate.Network) or find him on [Twitter @PodcastAdvocate](https://twitter.com/podcastadvocate) to learn more.

Welcome back to our virtual living room, because we have a lot of race and womanhood to discuss. Alexandra and Lenya are back for a new season with guests and hard topic discussions, unafraid to say what they think and discussing what it all means. This episode covers the ostracization of Olympic athletes like Simone Biles and Naomi Osaka, and how when they try to do the right thing for them, their team, and their country, they get ridiculed and worse in the press, all for trying to do a thing while being a Black woman. And it doesn’t just stop with the Olympics for athletes, but they also discuss how contestants on the British Bake Off, and F1 racing, and anyone on the internet can be subjected to anonymous hateful comments in the name of “free speech”, and there’s a nice rant about how social media platforms like Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and even TikTok delete posts and shadowban Black, Asain, and Indiginous creators, while condoning and allowing the hurtful posts against them. We still have a long uphill battle against us, but we’re here to talk about it, and we’re happy to have you with us! -- Please **rate and review** this podcast if you enjoyed it; reviews greatly help new listeners see this podcast is worth their time. You can find Women Bridging the Gap on [Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/women-bridging-the-gap/id1521503012) and [Podchaser](https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/women-bridging-the-gap-1304390). **We want to hear from you!** Let us know how you’re speaking about these issues with your friends. **Let us know what topics you want to hear!** Join the [Facebook Group](https://www.facebook.com/groups/665585734389981) Email us at [Lenya.Alexandra.BridgingtheGap@gmail.com](mailto:Lenya.Alexandra.BridgingtheGap@gmail.com) You can find us at: [WomenBridgingtheGap.com](https://womenbridgingthegap.com) Or on Instagram: * Find Lenya at: [@Lenya_goddess_the_one](https://www.instagram.com/lenya_goddess_the_one) * And Alexandra at: [@a_xandra17](https://www.instagram.com/a_xandra17) and [@thewritingleap](https://www.instagram.com/thewritingleap) * And the show is at: [@women_bridging_the_gap](https://www.instagram.com/women_bridging_the_gap/) This podcast was edited by Brendan Hutchins from Podcast Advocate. Go to [PodcastAdvocate.Network](http://PodcastAdvocate.Network) or find him on [Twitter @PodcastAdvocate](https://twitter.com/podcastadvocate) to learn more.

This month Logan Paul fought Floyd Mayweather in an exhibition event, drawing 1 million PPV buys and generating $50 million in revenue. It's yet another datapoint in the growth of made-for-social creator competition series, which represents the exciting intersection of social media stars and sport.  We discuss the breakdown of PPV vs ad-supported models, how House of Highlights' Showdown series drove over 100 million online views, the need for real competitive stakes, Triller's $500 million capital raise, and re-defining sport as we know it. Subscribe to our newsletter. We explore the intersection of media, technology, and commerce: sign-up linkLearn more about our market research and executive advisory: RockWater websiteEmail us: rounduppod@wearerockwater.com--EPISODE TRANSCRIPT:Chris Erwin:So Andrew, we're seeing a lot of activity around the made for social creator competition, sporting events.Andrew Cohen:Yeah. No, it's really cool. It's definitely a perfect storm of all the things that get us excited between the creator economy and sports media and live streaming. It's definitely something I'm excited to chat about.Chris Erwin:And this is something we actually covered in our RockWater blog. In November 2019, there was a second Jake Paul KSI fight. Now just looking out over the past year and a half, the space has really grown and it's really evolved.Andrew Cohen:Come a long way for sure.Chris Erwin:Yeah. A few things to break down here. Before we go into some of the recent market activity there's a great quote here from Doug Bernstein, the GM of House of Highlights. So he notes, "Creator competition is a new category unto itself, almost akin to e-sports." I think that's well put. So there's a couple of different types of models we're seeing here. I think we broke it down simply into those that we look at as pay-per-view versus those that are ad supported.Chris Erwin:So let's talk about a big recent pay-per-view fight. That was the June 6th Logan Paul versus Floyd Mayweather. Generated over a million pay-per-view buys on Showtime, generated around 50 million in revenue. Of notes, there's only about 25 boxing matches in history that have seen that many pay-per-view purchases. And the fact that it was an exhibition, like no judges, no winner, it's even more impressive. We'll talk more about that. Also, on June 12th, there was the YouTube versus TikTok fight on LiveXLive. And then in April, there was the Triller Fight Club series of Jake Paul versus the former MMA fighter Ben Askren. There's many more on this list, but let's talk about a few of the ad supported creator competition events we've seen.Chris Erwin:So a prominent one is House of Highlights. I think just last week they did their third installment of the Showdown Series, a dodge ball knockout event. The first two, which I think were in earlier this year, or even in 2020, were basketball and golf. And these were done live on YouTube and supposedly the first two events garnered over a hundred million online platform views, just striking number. Another event of note last year is Mr. Beast Creator Games that actually became YouTube most watched live original of all time. So I think the first one was in April of 2020, had 662,000 concurrent viewers for a virtual rock paper scissors contest, and I think they did another one in October. So there's more here. Bleacher Report did The Match, which is a golf showdown and a handful of others. But I think the bigger question is Andrew, why are we seeing so much market activity around, is this even a trend or probably something that's more permeant?Andrew Cohen:It's starting as a trend, but I think it's here to stay and it's going to turn into something more legitimate, sustainable. But really overall, when you look at it holistically, it seems like the worlds of sports and entertainment are merging. On one side we have traditional sports that are using shoulder programming to fuel storytelling and to engage new audiences. And then on the other hand, like we're seeing, everything you just mentioned, social creators using sporting events as kind of bottom funnel activations to eventize and monetize the culmination of internet trauma that they're able to create.Andrew Cohen:So Chris, what do you think it is about these social creators that make them so perfect to generate all this excitement for live events?Chris Erwin:So, Andrew, I think that there's a few key dynamics to note. I think these digitally native creators are the most polarizing and engaging personalities of today. And what we've known through a lot of our research and work is that we're in the world of personality led content. And that type of content reaches more younger audiences globally, particularly millennial and Gen Z, than any other type of content. There's also the ability for these digitally native creators to interact with their fans. It's a real two-way street that's very unique. And I think really importantly, there's this always on dynamic, where the creators are logging to their social channels 24/7, that becomes an always on promotion cycle to fuel excitement around these sporting events. I think this is a really key takeaway here that younger audiences are more passionately loyal to their favorite creator personalities then they are to their hometown team or even to traditional celebrities. So specifically these Gen Z sports fans are more loyal to athletes than teams, favoring athletes over teams by a margin of two to one compared to baby boomers. That's a big stat.Andrew Cohen:Yeah, it's crazy. And I think that explains a lot of the moves that we're seeing on the other end of the spectrum by sports leagues who are really making an effort to use storytelling and kind of drama and personalities surrounding the event to drive tune in and fuel engagement. So I think a great example that we're seeing recently is what Formula 1 is doing with their Netflix show, which has become my favorite soap opera to watch. And as a result, Formula 1 viewership in the US has gone up 36% year over year, just this year. And I think that's because people feel connected with the personalities and with the storylines and that makes them kind of want to tune in and see how it all plays out on race day.Chris Erwin:I feel like everyone I talked to asked me, have you seen the Formula 1 show on Netflix? It's definitely feels like it's become part of the zeitgeist.Andrew Cohen:It's crazy. Yeah. The hype is real and it translates to that viewership. So we're seeing other leagues go for this as well. The NBA is definitely the most popular sport among Gen Z in large part because it's such a personality focused sport. No one's wearing helmets, it's really the stars are front and center. And the NFL, even though it has the highest ratings, it's kind of losing this next generation of fans because the players don't have that same level of visibility. It's why they're doing a ton on social media, they're owned and operated brand the Checkdown which is kind of like their version of House of Highlights to take the helmet off the players and to make these personalities more front and center because that's how you get young fans kind of engaging with that live product.Andrew Cohen:And we're seeing other leagues do this as well. The PGA just recently announced their new Player Impact Program, which is a $40 million pool that's going to be distributed to the 10 golfers that generate the most fan and sponsorship engagement. So again, incentivizing their athletes and be front and center and to be personalities because that's how you bring fans in. And really everyone is kind of replicating this, but the originator is WWE. They have been built on kind of using even before social media kind of creating the soap opera that surrounds the mash to drive that pay-per-view tune in for tent pole events. So now we're kind of just seeing this happen on a bigger scale and it kind of merging with the new soap operas of the digital age, which is social creators.Chris Erwin:To boil that down, Andrew, tell me if I'm hearing this right, that sports leagues need to borrow the tactics of social influencers to generate that top of funnel awareness and engagement. And then on the flip side, the social brands, publishers and creators need to adopt the competitive event formats of pro sports to really build out that bottom funnel monetization for all the hype and all the attention that they're really able to generate across these new useful audiences? Is that kind of encapsulate it?Andrew Cohen:Correct. That's what I'm seeing.Chris Erwin:So then, okay. As we work to wrap up this micro cast, I think the next big question is how is this going to evolve going forward? Is this a trend or is this something of more permanence as we were raising before? And what are some of the things that you're seeing, Andrew?Andrew Cohen:I definitely think it's here to stay, but there need to be some changes that are made to kind of make it more sustainable versus just a bunch of one-off events. And I think one big thing that sticks out to me is the need for true competitive stakes and for these formats to evolve so that there really is a sense of stake on the line at the events themselves. So we're seeing it's kind of easier for leagues to create that authentic pop funnel storytelling because the dramatic stakes and the personalities are already inherent to sports. So it was really just about finding the most effective ways to capture and distribute it to maximize impact. So whether it's a premium series on Netflix or HBO, or just kind of behind the scenes clips on tiktok, the personalities are there, just how you put it in front of people.Andrew Cohen:On the other side, though, creator competitions need to figure out a way to better replicate that inherent drama of real sporting events to actually maintain viewer trust in the long run, to continue to generate pay-per-view buy-in and maximize in mash engagement. Because if it's perceived as just like a cash grab by two creators, I think interest is going to wane.Chris Erwin:Point really manifests when you look at some of the numbers, right? So let's dive into some of the stats. This most recent Logan Paul, Floyd Mayweather fight had a million pay-per-view buys, 50 million in revenue. Now you could say that, all right, compared to the first Jake Paul KSI fight, that was about two and a half years ago from 11 million in revenue this was a big win. But let's compare it to another fight, Mike Tyson versus Roy Jones Jr on Triller, that had 1.6 million pay-per-view buys over 80 million in revenue. Another one on Triller, Jake Paul versus Ben Askren the former MMA fighter 1.5 million pay-per-view buys over 75 million in revenue. So I think what you're getting at is this is really due in large part to the lack of competitive stakes in the match itself, right?Andrew Cohen:There was no winner, it was just an exhibition match. Both Paul and Mayweather had already kind of made all their money because of the way it was structured before they even stepped in the ring and there was really nothing left to fight for at that point.Chris Erwin:Just looking at the numbers again, Floyd Mayweather was guaranteed $10 million and 50% of pay-per-view sales. Logan Paul was guaranteed $250,000 and 10% of pay-per-view sales. But you know, just in a little bit of quick research before this, I was looking up the purse, the winner prizes for traditional boxing fights, where there's the competition matters. Supposedly for Mayweather Pacquiao few years back, that purse was reported at being worth up to nearly $500 million. If you've got that much money on the line, you're going to make that event a spectacle and you're in a fight to the last amount of energy and blood and grit that you have.Andrew Cohen:Mayweather kind of even admitted after the fight that it was just a cash grab. He said, quote, "They say, it's not all about the money. Well, your kids can't eat legacy. The patches on my trunks earned me $30 million alone. When it comes to legalize bank robbing, I'm the best." So he kind of just gave up the game right there that it wasn't really about the outcome, that the only outcome that mattered was kind of sealed in his bank account before he even stepped into the room.Chris Erwin:So do you think that competitions like this are going to persist or that they're going to change?Andrew Cohen:I think they have to change. I think, like we said, kind of the underlying dynamics that are driving the creator competition trend are strong. So I think that format is here to stay, but that there's really a need for the drama unfolding during the tent pole event itself, it has to be as engaging and as compelling as all the promotional content leading up to it if they expect to maintain that fan trust needed for people to actually continue paying money, fight after fight. And I think if each time you had the Floyd Mayweather saying like I don't really care, thanks for your money, I don't see that happening. But like we were saying up top, the value prop is really, it's about leaning into watch personalities, that we have this deep relationship with compete in high stakes events. So it doesn't have to just be boxing, I think we're actually going to see this expand. Maybe even the very definition of sports itself expand because really at the end of the day, that's what we're here to see. And as long as the stakes are there at the end of the day, I think we're going to see this trend continue to thrive.Chris Erwin:That's totally right. And I think this notion of redefining sports that that's already happening. We're having a call with the CEO of NV Gaming based out of Dallas and hearing about the new talent additions they've brought onto their roster. So they signed these two twin sister chess prodigies. So they're bringing out chess as an event because there's audiences behind it, there's different ways to set up that competition to build shoulder and pre and post programming around it. Even House of Highlights, kicking off with dodge ball, their new third installment last week. We're starting seeing Jenga events by Barstool Sports. And I think you and I were even riffing before this podcast, everyone talks about the British Bake Off, I think that's on Netflix. So what if you to kind of rethink that and make that into a creator competition series of this spirit, do you have a chef from Bon Appetit that's going against like a chef from First We Feast, what are the different ways to wrap the content experience around that? I think we're going to see a lot more fun instances of competition emerge in different verticals that we didn't expect.Andrew Cohen:The creators are going to be incentivized to go for this short term cash grab. But I do think that we're going to see these formats of evolve, but it's going to be up for the brands and the platforms to do so. To develop formats and kind of a long running event franchises that will ultimately transform this creator competition trend into a long-term enterprise value play. I think we're already starting to see that if you just look Triller just announced that they're raising $500 million at a $5 billion valuation. Overtime, just raise an $80 million series C after announcing a new league. And even House of Highlights we can see that with the Showtime series, they're kind of pivoting their brand strategy to a creator competition focus to kind of decrease some of their reliance that they have on league and platform partners. So I think that people are seeing this as less of just like a one-off event here and there and more as a way to kind of create long-term business.Chris Erwin:All right, Andrew. Well, we're at the end of our time and I hear sirens going off in the background. So I think it's time to cut.Andrew Cohen:I think that's our cue.Chris Erwin:All right, until next time.

1:00 Icebreaker: Start, Cut, Trade - cookies, cakes and pies 5:00 All Star Saturday Night Roses and Thorns: Skills Challenge, uniforms, Dunk Contest, Dame winner, players not able to play.  11:00 Dunk Contest: Cassidy didn't punch a wall and Anfernee didn't hit his face on the rim. Winning all around. (Thanks to Cathy and Jennifer for their takes!) 17:30 Hot off the presses Issue #2 of Flagrant Magazine What has the last year been like watching Flagrant Magazine take off?  25:00 The Great Basketball Bake-Off Which basketball players would be the best British Bake Off contestants? Our choices: Derrick Jones Jr., CJ McCollum, Serge Ibaka, Deandre Jordan, Javale McGee, Russell Westbrook, Jimmy Butler, Lamelo Ball, Nikola Jokic, Zion Williamson, Robin Lopez, Kyrie Irving 53:30 Takes from @2guysbrandon and @kendylbennett16 Find us on Twitter: Astyn Butuso: @lil_buts and @Flagrantmag. @wehaveatake, @cassidygemmet and @tcbbiggs. We are part of @bluewirehustle Join the Women's Hoops And Talks Facebook group to talk about Trail Blazers with others who identify as women who love basketball. Music used in the episode: “Happy Alley” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It’s our first episode with a guest star, Kelly’s boyfriend Jim! We talk about a variety of food topics, including: our favorite forms of potato, last meals, and our favorite British Bake Off contestants. Jim talks about some kitchen gadgets, shares his experience cooking for different diets, and a neat way to use expiring greens. As always, connect with us on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/foodiebuddiespod/ (@foodiebuddiespod) for fun food content, to get your cooking questions answered, and to have a non-judgmental place to talk food.

Chris and Kristie return to the #GCBS pavilion for Cookie week! In this episode, Canadian Baking show goes where British Bake Off failed, Mahathi has a week befitting the festival of lights, and Chris breaks out the Cookie Monster impression in the most predictable podcast moment of the series. 

MSNBC legal analyst Joyce Vance joins the podcast this week, and we discuss highly unrelated topics such as pet chickens and how necessary judicial reforms can create a more equitable legal system. Vance’s straight talk on the future of the Department of Justice and how current laws can handle domestic terrorism offers hope for the future. Cake helps, and Joyce and Marissa make a British Bake-Off-worthy coffee-pecan layer cake with praline topping.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

MSNBC legal analyst Joyce Vance joins the podcast this week, and we discuss highly unrelated topics such as pet chickens and how necessary judicial reforms can create a more equitable legal system. Vance’s straight talk on the future of the Department of Justice and how current laws can handle domestic terrorism offers hope for the future. Cake helps, and Joyce and Marissa make a British Bake-Off-worthy coffee-pecan layer cake with praline topping.Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

MSNBC legal analyst Joyce Vance joins the podcast this week, and we discuss highly unrelated topics such as pet chickens and how necessary judicial reforms can create a more equitable legal system. Vance's straight talk on the future of the Department of Justice and how current laws can handle domestic terrorism offers hope for the future. Cake helps, and Joyce and Marissa make a British Bake-Off-worthy coffee-pecan layer cake with praline topping. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Today Sean and A end off season one of the podcast with the end of The Great British Bake off. Listen in to hear what happens in the last two episodes, who will win? As always you can emails us at yodeling.sock.puppets@gmail.com

Amanda from Super Familiar with The Wilsons and Ashley from The Offbeat Momcast discuss The Great British Baking Show Holiday Special, Episode 2 with special guests: the Derry Girls. We love both of these shows and so their convergence delights us more than even the Jupiter and Saturn slow dance that we witnessed last week.But we have questions...why so much gelatin, Siobhán? Why just Amelia's head, Jamie-Lee? Were you really at Woodstock, Sandy? Why didn't you bring your mum, Dylan? And, Saoirse-Monica, who told you that putting fondant in a mixer would at all work? But the most important question...where's Orla???Theme music is by Andrew Wilson - Find him at electricsheap.bandcamp.com/musicThe Offbeat MomcastFind Ashley on instagram at https://www.instagram.com/offbeatmomcastand on twitter at https://twitter.com/OffbeatmomcastContact Ashley at offbeatmomsg@gmail.comSuper Familiar with The Wilsons Find us on Facebook at www.facebook.com/wilsonspodcast on instagram at instagram.com/thewilsonspodcaston twitter at https://twitter.com/wilsons_doand on YoutubeContact us! superfamiliarwilsons@gmail.comWe are part of a network of Gainesville Podcasts...check it out and listen to more great content. The ImaGNVille Podcast Network: www.ImaGNVille.com

Jerrod Blandino lights up a room, well – he lit up my laptop when he recorded in from California for this episode. As the co-founder of the billion dollar make up brand, Too Faced, Jerrod is also a fabulous baker thanks to his #BakeUpWithJerrod Instagram series.He and his husband, Jeremy, have the most beautiful house with TWO kitchens – yes two, which I ogle over. We bond over leopard print, clean kitchens, getting ready for a night out, as well as food!The half Italian beauty genius is a huge British Bake Off fan as well as hot sauce! I am convinced him and I have been separated at birth.This was a brilliantly fun and lighthearted conversation. Apologies, however, to the slight audio issues towards the end of the chat. I hate technology! @jerrodblandino@toofaced@crazysexyfood@hannahharleywww.crazysexyfood.com Music by @casnova____ This season of Crazy Sexy Food is sponsored by Keejays.Keejays is an independent, family-run business that has been making speciality sauces for professional chefs and home cooks like myself since 1985.  My particular favourites are the Spanish Tomato sauce, with its added paprika, as well as the Tai Po chilli sauce to rev up my meals! Order my favourites as well as the whole collection from www.keejayssauces.co.uk.Enter CRAZYSEXYFOOD at checkout for 10% off all products!

In this episode, we have a special guest. His name is Charlie Baxter and he's the host of the British English Podcast. We talk about the British Bake Off and he helps me understand the terminology used in it.

Ep 143 - Enola Holmes, A Wilderness of Error, Murders at White House Farm, Haute Dog, and British Bake OffIn this Let’s Babble episode, we go over Enola Holmes and why it didn’t work for us. We also discuss A Wilderness of Error, Murders at White House Farm, Haute Dog, and British Bake Off.00:00:00 - 00:00:39 Intro. Please make sure to Subscribe, Rate and Review us on Apple Podcast. We are also on Spotify and wherever you listen to podcasts!Check out our Patreon at patreon.com/offscreenbabble00:00:39 - 00:29:20 Let’s Babble00:00:39 Enola Holmes00:17:53 A Wilderness of Error00:22:05 Murders at White House Farm00:23:30 Haute Dog00:26:51 British Bake Off00:29:20 - 00:29:50 OutroThank you for listening. Please make sure to Subscribe, Rate and Review us on Apple Podcast.Also, check out our Patreon at www.patreon.com/offscreenbabbleFollow us on:Twitter // Instagram // Letterboxd // FacebookTheme Music: Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix) by spinningmerkaba

Season 4 Episode 11: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Get Your Geek On! -- The Malice Corp Geek Enthusiasts and Nerd Aficionados talk about what they've been doing since last episode. What you should be checking out, and what you should stay far away from? - 00:57 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Nerd News: -- Great British Bake Off Gets New Co-Host: Joining from the world of nerd, geek, and pop culture. British Bake-Off gets new co-host in the form of Matt Lucas. - 9:08 -- Bob Iger's Disney+ Plan: If your show is planned for Disney+, and doesn't meet maturity standards in the eyes of the mouse. Beware it might get cancelled or end up on Hulu - 16:14 -- New Proof for Moon's Origin: The theory of a collision caused the moon has been around forever. Science may have just found more proof on the hypothesis. - 31:22 -- What if Jason Todd Lived?: Art depicting the losing vote for Death in the Family revealed for first time. - 41:40 -- Naughty Dog Accused of Crunch Culture: In hopes to get Last of Us 2 out the crunch is on. Is this what people want, or just wait and be patient? - 49:43 -- Sony Brings Amazing Spider-Man 2 Writer Back: Robert Orci returns to write another tale in the Sony Spider-Man galaxy. Is this a lesson not learned, or give him a chance? - 1:04:00 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Audio Casts (Links Below or search for Malice Corp): -- Spotify - https://spoti.fi/2Xfv29H -- Stitcher - https://bit.ly/2QQfR7w -- Apple Podcasts - https://apple.co/2EQLy9u -- Podcasts.com - https://bit.ly/2GsfglY -- Google Podcasts - https://bit.ly/2ULDbB9 -- Podchaser - https://bit.ly/32qvV2s :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Where to Follow on Social Media to Talk All Things Nerd!: -- Website - http://malice-corp.com/ -- Discord - https://discord.gg/F52YJuN -- Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/malice_corp -- Facebook Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/allthingsnerdpodcast -- Cast Twitter - https://twitter.com/allnerdpodcast -- (Host) Masonic Vader: https://twitter.com/MasonicVader -- Nudie Rudie: https://twitter.com/NudieRudie -- A-A-Ron: https://twitter.com/DasNewportKid -- Super Whovian Freak: https://twitter.com/SuperWhovianNut :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: #GBBO #DisneyPlusCancelled #JasonTodd #AllThingsNerd #Podcast #Twitch #Geek #Nerd #Popculture #Comedy #Funny #NerdNews #GeekNews

Courtney and Sean discuss Dragon Stew, Unearthed Arcana, Birds of Prey, and more! This Week in 8BA: 8BA Plays Temtem, 8BA Comics Quest Log: Temtem The 8-bit Adventures podcast is a weekly podcast about the 8-bit Adventures comic, and various geeky topics of the week! You can support this podcast and other projects by 8-bit Adventures by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/8bitAdventures Our theme is 1UP (Instrumental) by Professor Shyguy. You can check out the awesome work he does over at http://www.professorshyguy.bandcamp.com

Artist and baker Andrew Hawkes talks about bouncing around pixelated mansions. ABOUT THE GUEST Andy Hawkes is an interdisciplinary artist based in Harlem. He creates performances, videos and baked goods that interrogate intimacy, aspirational domesticity and desire. Hawkes has presented his work at Museum of the Moving Image,Present Company, and Secret Project Robot. For more information Andrew-hawkes.com or IG @Andyawesomepants. ABOUT THE HOST Neil Goldberg is an artist in NYC who makes work that The New York Times has described as “tender, moving and sad but also deeply funny.” His work is in the permanent collection of MoMA, he’s a Guggenheim Fellow, and teaches at the Yale School of Art. More information at neilgoldberg.com. ABOUT THE TITLE SHE’S A TALKER was the name of Neil’s first video project. “One night in the early 90s I was combing my roommate’s cat and found myself saying the words ‘She’s a talker.’ I wondered how many other other gay men in NYC might be doing the exact same thing at that very moment. With that, I set out on a project in which I videotaped over 80 gay men in their living room all over NYC, combing their cats and saying ‘She’s a talker.’” A similar spirit of NYC-centric curiosity and absurdity animates the podcast. CREDITS This series is made possible with generous support from Stillpoint Fund.  Producer: Devon Guinn  Creative Consultants: Aaron Dalton, Molly Donahue  Mixer: Andrew Litton  Visuals and Sounds: Joshua Graver  Theme Song: Jeff Hiller  Website: Itai Almor Media: Justine Lee Interns: Alara Degirmenci, Jonathan Jalbert, Jesse Kimotho Thanks: Jennifer Callahan, Nick Rymer, Sue Simon, Maddy Sinnoc TRANSCRIPTION NEIL GOLDBERG:  I was going to say you were a former student of mine, but let’s get real here. ANDY HAWKES:  Almost student. I came so close. NEIL:  What happened? Why did you drop my class? ANDY:  Because they told me I had to. NEIL:  Who told you that? ANDY:  The people. NEIL:  The people. You’re putting it on someone else. ANDY:  No, I was… NEIL:  What went wrong? ANDY:  What went wrong was I was a first year sculptural student and I wanted to take a class with you in graphic design and the class was full and I think I was told I could take it if no one else in graphic design wanted to take the class so I got bumped out, but I did do the first assignment, but then I never got to show anyone. I think it wasn’t meant to be. NEIL:  Here we are today though. ANDY:  Here we are today. I think it’s change and it’s something different and special. NEIL:  Hello, I’m Neil and this is She’s A Talker. Today I’ll be talking to artist and baker, Andy. If this is your first time listening, here’s the premise of the podcast. I’m a visual artist and for the past million or so years I’ve been jotting down thoughts, observations, and reflections often about things that might otherwise get overlooked or go unnoticed. I write them down on index cards and I’ve got thousands of them. I originally wrote the cards just for me or maybe to use in future art projects, but in She’s A Talker I’m using them as prompts for conversations with some of my favorite artists, writers, performers, and beyond. NEIL:  These days the cards often start as recordings I make into my phone here and there over the course of the day. Each episode I start with some recent ones. Here they are. Animals are so straight edge. When you shake hands with somebody just after you’ve washed your hands and they’re still wet and you have to say, “I just washed my hands.” Photography is like taxidermy. I’m so excited to have as my guest Andy. Andy is an interdisciplinary artist who lists his mediums as performances, videos and baked goods. He’s presented his art at the Museum of the Moving Image and a bunch of other art venues. He also works as a coordinator of public programs at the Whitney Museum. NEIL:  We talked in January at a recording studio at the New School in New York City.    NEIL:  I’m sitting here with Andy Hawks. I’m so happy to have you here today.  ANDY:  I’m happy to be here.  NEIL:  Um, Andy, what’s your elevator pitch for what you do?  ANDY:  I would say, and it’s changed a lot since I’ve moved to New York, which is five years ago, I would say I am. I’m a performance artist and a video artist that’s interested in. Food consumption and labor and whiteness and those sorts of things. Yeah. I just recently accepted to myself that my kitchen is my studio or an extension of my studio, and so I think my time since graduate school has been learning to unlearn that art happens when you make a concerted effort in the studio and you know, to realize that. I can make art when I’m not sitting at a desk saying, okay, this is the time in which I will make art, you know? So I say I’m interested in food and interested in cakes and baking and things like that because I am still coming to terms :with like, that is, I think, a big part of the materials I want to work with. Yeah.  NEIL:  I am blown away by the gorgeousness of these cakes that have appeared on your social media feed.  ANDY:  Thank you.  NEIL:  It seems to me like in what the last year possibly?  ANDY:  In the last year? Yeah,  NEIL:  And it’s like zero to 60 I don’t know what the term is, but they’re, they’re so exquisite looking and came to me as a really big surprise. But perhaps not for you or, or, or was this something that you’ve been working towards?  ANDY:  It was a big surprise for me. I started baking a year ago when I started posting.  NEIL:  Fucking A!  ANDY:  So what happened was, you know, uh, my partner really wanted to take a cake decorating class. And so for Christmas I signed them up for one and we did it together and he did not like it,  But we had all this stuff and I wanted to use it. We had all this butter and all these bags and things, and I was like, well, I want to figure out how to use this. And I kind of got interested in it as a sculptural material and wanted to… explore it. And I started making cakes and seeing cakes on the internet and bringing them into work. And a big part of this was I started working in an office where it was, you know, predominantly white women who, you know, would bring in baked goods and stuff. And it was such a language of power play of like, “Oh, I baked these this weekend”, or “I bake these with the kids.” And I realized it was sort of like a… an interesting flexing that all these women were doing with each other. And I was like, well, I want to be a part of this. I want to like somehow get into this sort of like, “Oh, I made these cookies and they’re really good”. You know? And, and present them really prettily. So then I started trying to learn how to make them as beautiful as possible, which is something I’d never been interested in, which was beauty.  Explain that for people who. Rightly are blown away by the idea of an artist who heretofore, was not interested in beauty.  I think beauty in a way, to me means resolved in a certain way and a certain aesthetic and a certain kind of finish. And as an artist, I was never interested in…  No, I was interested in things aesthetically making sense to me, but I was never interested in them aesthetically being at a resolved point where… It’s sort of like drag makeup in a way, right? Like, you know, to have the idea that there’s like a, a flawless application of, of eyeshadow or something, or like a flawlessness to it. And I was never interested in making something that was flawless. I had never really thought about that. And you know, I, I learned a lot of this to this school to YouTube, and there’s so much conversation with these people who are making cakes about, like, how to make sure that your buttercream is perfectly smooth and how to make sure you have the perfect icing and making sure that you have the perfect, like the word perfect kept coming up so much because it was like, “Oh, this is about being perfect,” you know? So I had never used the word perfect, or use the word harmonious, and in a way, you know. But that’s something that I am interested in with like how something tastes or how something looks now. Yeah.  NEIL:  This perfection thing is really coming up for you, huh?  ANDY:  I guess so.  Yeah. Does it in any way feel like it may be a response to Yale where perfection is questioned? It is. Question there. I came from mid Michigan, small school, you know, by a corn field. I remember in one of the critiques, one of my first critiques in Yale, one of the faculty members said, Oh, it’s such an object as a critique. And I was like, and my head spin spun around and I was like, “Oh my, what? I thought we were supposed to be doing that here.” Yeah. I thought we were supposed to be making objects, what am I doing? And so I, I know that like one of the things that I felt was that, that, you know, and I loved the program and I learned so much, I have to say that. But you know, one of the things that when I left, it was like I had completely abandoned making anything tangible or physical or like, an object. And so like maybe in a way, you know, I am striking back. I mean, a cake is an object. As long as you don’t eat it, you know, as long as you don’t cut it. So, you know, maybe, maybe it is a reaction against that and maybe there’s some little trespassing, you know, it’s a little naughty exploring perfection. Are your parents still in the world?  Yes. They both are. Yeah.  Oh, a little question mark.  Yes. Both of my parents are alive. Yes. Yeah.  NEIL:  Um, how do each of them describe what it is you do to their friends?  ANDY:  Oh. So I work at the Whitney museum and I, uh, work with a small team to produce, um, programs for adult audiences. So I think that they don’t think of me baking as, as an artistic practice. My mom probably would say that I am, you know, an arts administrator in New York.  NEIL:  Mhmmmm.  ANDY:  That’s, I think as much as she would describe it. And I don’t know if I’ve articulated to her that I think of what I’m doing. A sculpture,  NEIL:  Arts administration – as sculpture? Or baking as…  ANDY:  Baking as sculpture, not art. If arts administration is sculpture, my gosh, I have built the pyramids. Um,  NEIL:  How about your dad?  ANDY:  Ah, well my dad is, um. He’s a.. He had a closed head injury a few years ago, so he.. That’s why, you know, when you were like, “Oh, your parents..”  My dad’s alive, but he’s not, um, he has a lot of memory loss and a lot of difficulty. So he’s in an, um, in a nursing home. So he remembers me if I’m there in person, but I don’t think on the day to day he thinks about it. If I call him, he’ll be kind of confused.  Right. Yeah.  So that’s why I said it with a question mark cause it’s like, Oh well hmm…. NEIL:  I hear you. I’m sorry to have been so, um.. uh, cavalier about that question. ANDY:  But when he has a with us, I mean, you know, before his accident, I think he, I know he would describe me as an artist and he was very, he fancied himself an artist. And he took me as a kid, actually, is one of the reasons why I became an artist. As a little kid. He would take us the DIA, Detroit Institute of the Arts, you know, like once a month. And we were members. And I remember just having really formative experiences there. And when I turned like 13, he gave me his SLR, like film camera from, you know, he had since the 80s. And, and that sort of opened, I think the door to me being an artist. And he was a truck driver. But you know, he painted and he took photographs and he played the flute and he was a person that, you know, I think in a lot of ways I’m a lot like him. That if he took an interest in something, he fully committed and did a 0 – 60 so seeing him obsessively buy gadgets and obsessively commit to learning something was sort of really impactful for me. NEIL:  What’s something that you find yourself thinking about today?  ANDY:  Oh, today specifically? Or today is like a concept, huh?  NEIL:  What is today as a concept. Oh, like, like kids today?  ANDY:  Yeah. That sort of thing.  NEIL:  Take your pick. I love it.  ANDY:  I’m thinking a lot about, this is going to sound crazy. Watching ‘Let’s Play’ videos.  NEIL:  What are they called, lip play? ANDY:  Let’s play. NEIL:  Let’s play? ANDY:  It’s when people play video games and record them.  NEIL:  Oh, right. Yeah, thats a thing huh? ANDY:  Yeah. And I’ve been watching the Tomb Raider ones from like 1996 you know, with the… the worst resolution graphics on earth. And its just a very surreal experience to watch someone who’s perfected playing Tomb Raider. It’s just a really interesting, um, meditative kind of thing to watch. NEIL:  Weird.  ANDY:  Yeah. It is weird.  NEIL:  Do you play video games?  ANDY:  I don’t.  NEIL:  Me neither. You don’t like playing them but you like watching other people play?  ANDY:  Yeah.  NEIL:  Huh. ANDY:  I was a very scared child. I grew up with the PlayStation and I was always too stressed out to ever play past the first level of anything. And so now that I’ve discovered that you can just watch someone else play and be able to see again, I guess it’s like I said, perfect. Again, like perfectly played Tomb Raider.  NEIL:  What was it as a kid that scared you back over to the next level?  ANDY:  I was afraid of the conflict. There’s always a first boss that you have to fight, right?  NEIL:  Oh, is that what happens in a video game?  ANDY:  Oh  yeah! With any video game you get to a part and you have to fight some sort of like guy who throws bricks at you or something or you know, some sort of like mushroom monster or something. And I, um, never wanted to do that. I was like, well, that’s okay with me. I’ll just play the first level again where you just, you know. Don’t deal with that. So, you know, I, my favorite part of tomb Raider was there was a part where you could just play in Laura’s house. The, the main character is like a millionaire and you could just like jump around her mansion and I, that was enough for me. And so it’s nice to see.. to watch something that isn’t just bouncing around someone’s pixelated mansion I guess.  NEIL:  Right, isn’t that what we’re all doing? Bouncing around our respective pixelated mansions.  ANDY:  Well, or pixelated apartments or pixelated hovels in my case.  NEIL:  Let’s go to some cards I curated for you.  ANDY:  Okay.   (Card Flip sound)  NEIL:  First card is the profound thing about cooking show competitions is that the sense of taste is invisible. You can’t know what they’re tasting except in how it registers on their face or in their words.  ANDY:  That’s really true. In a way, that’s what I’m interested in, like trying to make, I’ve been trying to make more elaborate kind of baked goods, uh, different kinds of sponges and things like that, so I can actually know what they taste like. And actually experience that. And I think that in a lot of ways when you watch these shows we’re there by proxy. We’re there by what someone is what someone’s facial expression is. What someone says about it. The camera. The music. The response of the other contestants. And we’re never actually there. Sort of a mirror to a lot of… we’re increasingly removed from most experiences, you know? NEIL:  For sure. But I think about like baking shows in particular, or cooking shows are different from, let’s say, a singing competition where you can experience it.  Yeah. And how that shapes cooking shows, you know? So there’s like, for me, I’m really interested in like the, the fetishization of the bite, you know, the, the ways of telegraphing this experience that you don’t have access to in the same way that you would have it if it were someone singing and you could hear them sing.  ANDY:  Or America’s next top model, and you can see them posing.  NEIL:  Exactly. Exactly.  ANDY:  Right.  NEIL:  You had said earlier, um, a cake is an object unless you eat it. How does, how does that figure into it? Like is a cake that you’ve cut into. Is that a? Is it still a cake? Is it an object? Is it… ANDY:  I think it’s still an object if you cut into it? But I’ve noticed the fun thing about baking cakes is that you can’t eat them alone, right? I mean, you could, but you would be sort of a monster if you baked the cake and ate it by yourself. NEIL:  Right.  ANDY:  And so I started baking cakes for everyone’s birthdays and so many people said, “Oh, it’s… I don’t want to cut it. It’s so pretty. I don’t want to cut it. I don’t want t  ruin it.” And you know, it’s, it’s interesting because like, if there’s like one little tiny piece of cake left, it’s no longer, it’s no longer something that I made. It’s participatory at that point, right? Like every little cut, every little licking of the frosting, like people are changing it and it’s actively changing shape and changing form. And, um, I love when you, when, when, when it’s sort of that wedge missing and it’s full of crumbs and it’s full of. You know, things falling over and, um, people scraping up the pieces with a knife and it become something that’s kind of on one side. Literally on one side, it’s really pretty. On the other side, in the front, it looks broken. It looks damaged. It’s, uh, been affected by other people, you know, and that’s, that’s interesting to me to look at that. And I find myself always documenting the completed cake before it’s cut into and not taking pictures of the half consumed cake. But I think that, you know, it’s interesting when they are in the process of losing their objectness and the process of becoming, I guess just food, you know? And the in-between between a work of art and just food is interesting for me. And that’s something that I haven’t figured out how to, how to cement that moment. Cause I. I dunno. I feel like I’m, I, I’ve not seen other people work with cakes as a material. So I’m trying to figure out how do I make this art? How do I prove to everyone that I’m actually making her? And I’m not just baking, you know? But. I, I believe that I am making art when I’m doing this.  NEIL:  Oh my God. If you ever have doubt, you can definitely text me.  ANDY:  Okay.  NEIL:  But I do think the question you’re dealing with is so fucking deep, which is, yeah, we can say what you’re doing is hard, but where is the art?  ANDY:  Right. All right. You know, I’m also interested in things that I, I feel like are, this is almost art.  NEIL:  Almost art is so much better than art.  ANDY:  I think so too.  All the possibilities! One of my friends, I Simon Wu. I’ll ll send him things that I think are, “Oh my God, this is almost art.” You know, and there’s like a, there’s, there’s this, um, like two hour. And I’m not lying. It’s like a two hour YouTube compilation of, of women in anime saying, “Oh, ho, ho, ho ho ho ho ho” like this, like specific anime laugh. It’s like two hours long. And I’m like, this is almost art. I think that if you just put this on a screen, I think it’d be art. But then I, then I asked myself, well, is it art now? If it’s art on YouTube, but I don’t know. Or, um, those things… If I can get spicy? NEIL:  Oh, please do, on she’s a talker.  ANDY:  Those, um, those poppers training videos, have you seen those?  I haven’t seen them?  They’re, they’re, they’re  po… po… porn… porno… pornographic.  They’re, they’re pornographic adult films. And for those of you who don’t know, poppers are a… I actually don’t even know how to explain what they are, but they are a, they are a tool. They’re a tool to get you where you need to go.  And there are these videos that like, it’s like these super cuts of intense pornographic hardcore gay scenes, and there’s like at the bottom it tells you like, start doing your poppers now and then stop doing your poppers. NEIL:  Oh, really?  ANDY:  Yeah. And it’s supposed to train you to like. I dunno. It’s some sort of like tantric poppers sort of thing. Oh yeah. I don’t, I, I’ve watched them. I’m not going to say if I’ve like participated in the exercise, but I think that that’s like a thing that I’m like, this seems like it’s almost art. NEIL:  Almost art.  (Card Flip sound)  Next card. I was watching ‘The Great British Baking Show’ and they were making a self saucing sponge. Okay. I don’t know if that means anything to you. ANDY:  I think I’d know what that means. NEIL:  But the card I wrote in relationship to that is you don’t know how it’s going to turn out until the end. You can’t taste it as it goes.  ANDY:  Yeah.  NEIL:  It’s inscrutable past a certain point. You can’t, well, you can’t take taste, for instance, batter and know what it’s going to taste like, or can you? ANDY:  You can taste batter, but it isn’t baked.  NEIL:  Right. ANDY:  You can certainly tell if it’s, if there’s something wrong with it. But it won’t taste good. Yeah. One of the interesting things that I’ve been doing is because I’ve been making multiple component cakes, you know, so it’s  like… NEIL:  MCCs? ANDY:  Oh yeah. Maybe that. Um, you know, so it’s like, Oh because you know, I’m trying to do that whole ‘British Bake-Off’. Like, Oh, it’s a brown butter vanilla sponge with a white chocolate ganache inside with a raspberry reduction, and it’s covered in Italian merengue buttercream, you know?  NEIL:  And take your  poppers now  (Laughs)  ANDY:  And start poppers now.  (Laughs)  Um, no, but so you can taste each individual component, but you don’t actually know what a slice will taste like. You don’t know this small section of this greater whole. How much of everything do you get? How much in every forkful do you get? Does it actually make sense together? You can never really know until you cut into it unless you’ve made something a hundred times and you’ve kind of memorized it.  (Card Flip sound)  NEIL:  Okay. Next card, Andy.  ANDY:  Okay.  NEIL:  I think my favorite kitchen tool might be the spatula. Very Virgo tool. I’m talking about the kind of spatulas, not like that you use to flip a burger, but that you use to kind of like… ANDY:  A rubber spatula? NEIL:  A rubber spatula!  ANDY:  Or that sort of like scrapey-scrapey. NEIL:  Yeah, perfection of scraping. ANDY:  I love spatulas. I also hate bad spatulas.  NEIL:  Oh yeah, like where they’re too stiff.  ANDY:  They’re too stiff or they’re too, I mean,  the two stiff, a bit too limp or they’re afraid to commit. You know? I watched a spatula review video recently. NEIL:  Really?  ANDY:  Yeah. And I bought the top rated spatula and I love it.  NEIL:  Really? Tell me about it. ANDY:  I forget what it’s called, but it’s silicone. The whole thing is silicone, so there’s no wood on it. And so. It, you can go, it can go on the dishwasher. It’s safe up to 450 degrees so you can’t melt it. And unless you put an oven that’s 500 degrees and it’s, it’s stiff but not too stiff and it’s wide but not too wide and it fits in the hand perfectly. I dunno. Spatials are an interesting thing cause they’re sort of like, when you have idea of like you cupping your hand in a, I mean the goal of any good kitchen tool is that it feels like it’s just your hand just doing something different.  NEIL:  Yes. That’s so true.  ANDY:  That’s my relationship to spatulas I suppose. NEIL:  Is it? Do you have a favorite kitchen tool?  ANDY:  My favorite, favorite, favorite thing is the, is this French tip. A piping tip. It’s, it’s open star tip and it’s got a lot of little, it’s really small. Like if it’s just, it just makes these really pretty dollops that have these like really architectural pretty lines incised in them. And I just, I just like it cause it makes everything look instantly fancier.   (Card Flip sound)  NEIL:  Next card, the experience of eating berries that are fleetingly in season. Something about grasping or attachment or something is what I wrote about the experience of like now is cherry season and it’s fleeting and so you get the cherries and they’re delicious and sweet and it creates in me a type of like disconnect actually.  ANDY:  That’s like, I feel like. Is a problem is that we never really know when something is in season because something is more often than not always available and it’s just a few, a few weeks or months, or it, no, it doesn’t taste like trash. One of the things that I used to work at the Brooklyn museum, and there was this, um, still life painting by an American artist and I, I don’t remember his name, but I remember looking at it and not understanding why it was remarkable and it was because it took him a year to paint it because it depicts all these fruits, you know, strawberries, blackberries, watermelons, pumpkins, every kind of conceivable fruit, fresh at the same time. And you know. To a person living before mass supermarkets and things like that, you would never see a blueberry at the same time that you see a cabbage. You know, it’s interesting because like, Oh, I read the wall label and we, I talked about it with a coworker and it’s like, Oh, it actually took him a year because he had to like. Wait until something was ripened, paint it and make a composition based on things that he has that he knew would be in season later that he would put someplace else, you know? NEIL:  Well, so he did the thing that supermarkets do today.  ANDY:  Yes. And it was magic at the time.  NEIL:  Wild!  (Card Flip Sound))   Next card, Andy.  ANDY:  Yes.  NEIL:  Leftovers as a kind of embodied memory. ANDY:  That makes me think about meal prep. You know, when you’re making the same thing and eating the same thing over and over and over again, and that there is no leftovers, that you’ve made it all at once and you’re eating the sort of copies of the same meal, right? You cook a bunch of chicken breasts and broccoli, you know, there was never the original meal. There was never a leftover. But I do think it is interesting thinking about leftovers as like as some sort of analog to memories of a previous experience. The soup always tastes different the next day. It always tastes better. The flavors get to know each other more. It’s telling you a different story. You know, the act of measuring something disrupts what you’re measuring, the act of remembering something changes what you remembering. Right? Uh, Thanksgiving leftovers aren’t Thanksgiving. They’re something different, but it is in a way, a memory or some sort of, um,remnant or some sort of a shadow of what there was before,  NEIL:  But, but to your point, it often tastes better.  ANDY:  I think it does.  NEIL:  I agree completely. And I think there’s two parts to that. One is the way certain foods. Yeah. Get to know each other, but also it’s like you’re not at fucking Thanksgiving. ANDY:  No!   (laughter)  Socialization and all of the, the experience is not there again. NEIL:  And that’s, that makes it taste better. In other words, in fact, knowing Thanksgiving is over. That you got through it that it’s done  ANDY:  You got out  NEIL:  Makes that taste better. You got out. Exactly. Exactly. I think that’s a key to why Thanksgiving leftovers taste better. I love Thanksgiving with my family. Do I love it more than Thanksgiving being over? I dunno. What would you choose? Well, you’re getting both.  ANDY:  Yeah. You can get both.  NEIL:  You have Thanksgiving and then you have the pleasure of Thanksgiving being over.  (Card Flip Sound)  The next card. Confusion as a working method.  ANDY:  Yeah, yeah. Doubt I think is pretty, it’s pretty generative, right? Someone told me once, I think it was, um, Miss Kaufman who was my photography professor in undergrad, and she told me, if you’re ever comfortable with the work that you’re making, you probably should be doing something different. I think if you’re so confident in something, then like you need to shake it up a bit. And I think that being confused is a useful space to, to be trying to orient yourself somewhere .It’s a useful thing. And I remember you… you’re the one, you photographed people coming out of the subway.  NEIL:  I did. Yeah. ,  ANDY:  I remember that! It meant a lot to me. I think about it a lot sometimes. Oh, I love it. Um, I think I’ve articulated enough in this interview that I’m a little bit unsure of what I’m doing. Um, so I think that, um. Orienting yourself is a useful place to be in. I think confusion is important.  NEIL:  I love it. That’s so deep. Your take, it starts from really different take from mine. This card came from, um, almost as a methodology. Like when I’m getting feedback about a piece of art, I like to get a lot of feedback about a piece of art feedback and kind of get myself kind of confused about it through these different voices that are weighing in on it and added that confusion I wouldn’t say a certainty of emerges, but like a direction forward does. There’s a place where both of our thoughts meet.   (Card Flip sounds)  Okay. What keeps you going? ANDY:  The desire to learn? I think wanting to, um, yeah. Wanting to learn . Both in like my, you know, trying to learn how to do drag makeup, trying to learn how to tap dance, how to try and to learn how to bake a cake and my relationship learning, you know, more about my partner and learning how he feels and how he thinks and things like that. And, um, you know, my job, my day job, you know. Um, learning about art and learning about a collection of art and learning about different artists. And yeah, I’d say learning. And I think that, you know, that’s what keeps me going in the. In the, um, in that field also. Um, I’m very passionate about having insurance. I’m passionate about eating, um, and paying my rent somewhat on time. So that is also what keeps me going in that job. NEIL:  It’s good that you have passions.   (Card Flip Sounds)  Andy on that note. Huge thank you for being on ‘She’s a Talker.’ I’m so grateful.  ANDY:  Thank you for having me. It’s been so much fun, I hope I talked enough. NEIL:  Oh my God. Gems. It was like an embarrassment of riches.  ANDY:  Thank you.  NEIL:  Uh, we’ll do a version where there’s like the popper instruction part that goes with it too. ANDY:  Popper training!  NEIL:  Popper training.  (Chuckles)  ANDY:  It’s like, you train for a marathon. You don’t need, you know… NEIL:  You don’t get instructed.  ANDY:  Yes.  NEIL:  All right.       Thank you so much for listening to She’s A Talker. Before we get to the credits, we have something new this season. A lot of people have been writing in with their own responses to the cards and we’d love to feature yours in the show, so please send them our way at shesatalker@gmail.com or via Instagram at shesatalker. Jonathan Taylor wrote in with a question about drag, which I thought would be perfect to ask Andy given his own use of drag in his art. Here it is. In an earlier episode with the choreographer, Miguel Gutierrez. He was at the Whitney biennial a few years ago. I love him. One of the cards I had there was, I don’t like any of the art forms that are built around the uncanny, like animation, puppetry and impersonations, and a listener wrote in and asked, “What about drag? Does drag play on the uncanny?” What’s your answer to that? ANDY:  I think there’s a difference between drag and female illusion. I think a good drag queen or a drag queen that I appreciate, not a good drag queen, isn’t one that’s trying to look like a woman whereas I think female impersonation is the whole entertainment aspect is that this person looks so much like a woman, but they’re not. I’m thinking of the uncanny valley where something hits that wall where it’s too realistic but not realistic enough at the same time. And I think that drag at its heart is critiquing what gender is and exaggerating and there’s a level of camp to I think drag, the makeup is so distinct and so exaggerated. It’s stage makeup. It’s almost Kabuki. NEIL:  But that really aligns with what might’ve been my take. My take would have been less articulate. Thank you Andy for answering that listener question. ANDY:  Thank you. Thank you for asking. NEIL:  This series is made possible with generous support from Stillpoint Fund. Devin Guinn produced this episode. Andrew Lytton mixed it. Molly Donahue and Aaron Dalton, our consulting producers, Justine Lee handles social media. Our interns are Alara Degirmenci, Jonathan Jalbert and Jesse Kimotho. Our card flip beats come from Josh Graver and my husband Jeff Hiller sings the theme song you’re about to hear. Thanks to all of them and to my guest, Andy and to you for listening.

Reading to Children (Part 1) - Sally Lloyd-JonesReading to Children (Part 2) - Sally Lloyd-JonesFamilyLife Today® Radio Transcript  References to conferences, resources, or other special promotions may be obsolete. Reading to Children Guest:                        Sally Lloyd-Jones                             From the series:       Telling Stories to Children (Day 2 of 2)               Bob: Do you read stories to your children? Do you read Bible stories to them? Sally Lloyd-Jones has a caution for you. Sally: Whenever we read a story and then we say, “Well, what that story's about…”—whatever we put on the other side of “about”—that becomes the only thing that story's about. The minute we do that—it's terrible / it's the worst thing you could ever say. I'm passionate about that because of what that does—is, basically, you've decided what that story is about / you've decided what God might want to say to that child—but what if God wants to say something completely different? Bob: This is FamilyLife Today for Friday, December 8th. Our host is Dennis Rainey; I'm Bob Lepine. There is great power in telling good stories. We'll hear from a great story-teller today, Sally Lloyd-Jones. Stay with us. And welcome to FamilyLife Today. Thanks for joining us on the Friday edition. We're having a delightful time this week with a delightful friend.  1:00 Before we introduce her again, we're in the final weeks of the year. This is a pretty important, pretty strategic time for us as a ministry. Dennis: It is! I'll tell you something that delights me—I love hearing from listeners. I heard, recently, from a single mom who said our broadcast gives her hope every day to keep on keeping on. Here's one from somebody who struggled through the heartbreak of a divorce and a broken family—she said: “It helped me grow in Christ immensely.” And then one other: “Our marriage was falling apart. I started listening, daily, to FamilyLife Today. The information I received gave me the strength to fight for my marriage.” We have a lot of folks, Bob, who are finding help and hope for their marriage and family. But in order for us to do that, we need listeners to step up and say: “I want to stand with you guys as you guys proclaim the biblical blueprints for a marriage and a family. You're ministering to marriages and families and leaving legacies, all across the nation and all around the globe.”  2:00 Would you stand with us right now? Bob: It's easy to make a yearend contribution. You can do it, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call to donate at 1-800-FL-TODAY. There's a matching-gift opportunity that's in effect so, when you give your donation, it's going to be doubled—the impact of your giving will be doubled. You'll help us reach more people in 2018 and that's our goal—is to reach more people with practical biblical help and hope. Again, you can donate, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or call 1-800-FL-TODAY. Now, back to our conversation with our guest, Sally Lloyd-Jones. We've been talking about holidays; we've been talking about family, and fun, and about food. In fact, you don't think there can be good Christmas food in Great Britain. When you were over there, you thought all the food was horrible; right? Dennis: “I was trying to find out a way to get across the English Channel to get to France.” [Laughter] Bob: Have you watched The Great British Bake Off? Have you watched that show? Dennis: I have not, Bob. Bob: Have you watched it? Sally: Yes; everyone's obsessed! 3:00 Bob: I know, it's amazing; isn't it? Dennis: Bob, I'm concerned about you—you're watching The British Bake Off! Bob: The Great British Bake Off is a great reality show. Barbara, you would love The Great British Bake Off. Barbara: I would? Okay. Bob: So, make Dennis watch it. Dennis: No; she wouldn't; she does not like to cook! [Laughter] Barbara: I enjoy watching other people cook. Bob: That's exactly the point. Sally: That's perfectly fine with me! Dennis: I do want to welcome Sally Lloyd-Jones back to the broadcast. Welcome back.  Sally: Thank you so much. Dennis: We're thrilled to have you. She was born and raised in Africa, schooled in England, lives in New York City, but will celebrate Christmas back in England— Barbara: —eating figgy pudding—we found out. Dennis: —eating figgy pudding. Bob: That's right! Dennis: She is a great author. She's written a number of best-selling books, including The Jesus Storybook Bible, Song of the Stars, and one we are going to talk about today called, Found, which is the 23rd Psalm. And then a book about a child's identity, and his voice in this world their living in. How many books have you written? Sally: Over 25. I had to count them up the other day. Barbara: Wow! Dennis: Yes? That's amazing!   4:00 Your whole journey started out writing books for children when you were a little girl and you read a book that opened your mind and your heart to a whole new world with books. Sally: Yes! When I was about seven, I thought books were to learn, to be serious, [and] to do at school. I wasn't a child that really thrived at school—I was a bit dreamy. I was given this book called The Complete Nonsense by Edward Lear. In England, a lot of people know that book; but they may not in America—he's not quite so well-known here. But I'd advise everyone to get that book! I'm not getting anything—it sounds like I'm getting referrals—but I'm not! I'm just passionate about it.  The reason I am is that it changed everything. I got this book, and it was the first book I had ever read all the way through—I was seven. I opened up the book and there were these insane, in a good way, crazy limericks about people with long noses and great, long beards and birds that nested in the beards and then he did all the drawings in pen himself. They were completely like just zany!  5:00 It was a revelation. I had no idea you could have so much fun inside a book. It changed everything. From then on, I wrote limericks and illustrations and then inflicted them on my poor friends and family.  The reason I tell that story is that they often say that whatever you were doing when you were maybe six—five or six or seven—before you became self-conscious, and you became what you thought everyone wanted you to be—whatever you loved doing at that point, often clues you in to what should be in your life, whether it's your job or a hobby. For me, it's been proven so true. I was loving this book that was so much fun and having fun inside books; and now, all these years later—it took a long time and a long journey / and very twisty—but here I am, all these years later, basically having fun inside books, and hoping that I can get children to  have fun inside books. Dennis: Inviting them to the party! Sally: Yes! Exactly, and realizing laughter—that's such a gift that God's given us. 6:00 Bob: You had an experience where you were telling a Bible story to a group of children, and it changed your thinking about how to tell stories to them. Sally: Yes; yes. I like to tell this story on myself, because I don't ever want anyone to think I think of myself as an expert. I'm learning every time I read to children. This particular time, I was invited to a Sunday school; and I was reading from The Jesus Storybook Bible—it was probably about like six years ago. I'm very good at getting children out of control—I think that's part of my job, getting them laughing—but I'm not so good at getting them under control.  The Sunday school teacher had wandered away; so I read this whole story, Daniel and the Scary Sleepover. The story was all about Daniel and how he was obedient, even though he might be punished and killed; and that, one day, God was going to send another hero, who would again be willing to do whatever God told Him, no matter what it cost Him—that's how the story ends. While I'm reading this story, there's this young girl—she's probably about six—she's kneeling up. As I'm telling this story, she's so engaged—she's almost trying to get into my lap—she's so engaged. At the end of the story, I panicked; because there was no teacher, I thought, “I have to say something.”   7:00 So, I went: “So, children,”—and I was horrified to hear this come out of my mouth—I said: “So children, what can we learn about how God wants us to behave?” As I said those words, the little girl—she physically slumped / her head bowed, and she slumped. I have never forgotten it, because I think that is a picture of what happens to a child when we make a story into a sermon.  Because I said that question at the end of the story, I basically made that story all about her instead of pointing to Jesus. The minute we do that, we leave the child in despair; because we don't need to be told to do it better. If we could do it better, Jesus never needed to have come. The story of Daniel is there—not to tell us what we should be doing—it's to tell us: “Look, this is what God is going to do. God is going to bring someone, who is not going to be saved at the last minute, who is going to actually die to rescue us; and that's the most incredible story.”  I've learned from that.  8:00 I have never forgotten it; because whenever we read a story; and then we say: “Well, what that story's about…”—whatever we put on the other side of “about” is basically what we lead the child with—that becomes the only thing the story is about. Bob: To say: “The moral of the story is…” Sally: Is the worst thing you could ever say. I'm passionate about that!—it's terrible. Bob: But don't you want kids to get it? Sally: You do; but what that does is—basically, you've decided what that story is about/  you've decided what God might want to say to that child—but what if God wants to say something completely different? It puts too much power in our hands. It would be much better to leave the story, because I believe the story is a seed—it grows when it's left alone. It may take years for us to see the fruit of it. We may not see it growing; but that's what a seed does—it grows in the dark. It's almost, I think, none of our business. If we read a good story to a child, it's between the child and the Holy Spirit what happens with that seed.  9:00 It's not that we shouldn't ask questions; it's just that I think we need to be careful not to reduce the story down into a moral lesson, because there's a place for moral lessons. But stories are so much more powerful, because they can transform your heart. A lesson doesn't usually—like a moral lesson often leaves you feeling like the little girl—she felt in despair; because it was suddenly like: “God isn't pleased with you, because you're not as brave as Daniel,”—that's what I used to think, as a child. People often say: “Well, if you can't ask, ‘What is the moral of the lesson?' what can you ask?”—because, sometimes, you need a question. I always say, “What about if you, with the child”—like it's you are on the same level with the child, as if you're kneeling together before our Heavenly Father; because we are all children before Him—“What if you read the story together?”—coming together, not as you as the teacher, but as you and the child as children of God.  You listen to the story and then you go: “Wow!” and you wonder, aloud, and you say something like—say, with the story of the feeding of the 5,000—instead of saying, “Well, children, what can we learn about sharing our lunch?”—  10:00 —you say, “The boy gave Jesus everything he had. I wonder what would happen if we gave Jesus everything we have?” and you leave it open. Suddenly, that becomes completely open; and the child's imagination can soar with that. That's a question I think that's a good thing to ask; but it's not trying to teach a lesson. Bob: Part of what you do in that question is—you put the focus on what God can do— Sally: Yes! Bob: —rather than what we're supposed to do. Sally: Amen, because then there's hope. We need to give children hope; don't we? They obviously need guidance, and there's a place for teaching and rules. I just think the story time is sacrosanct. We should come together, before our Heavenly Father, and wonder together. Bob: So when you approach writing a story like, Baby Wren and the Great Gift, which is not overtly a Christian story / no Bible verses in it—do you approach that differently than when you are writing something for The Jesus Storybook Bible? 11:00 Sally: The helpful thing about The Jesus Storybook Bible is the plot‘s already worked out. [Laughter] Bob: The story's already there; yes. Sally: So with Baby Wren, I try and “be someone on whom nothing is lost.” I think Henry James said that—I may have got that wrong—“be someone on whom nothing is lost.” I'm always open; and that book—what I have learned with books is—an idea will come from anywhere; but when it comes and it hits me in a poignant way, or it makes me laugh, or does something with my heart, I've learned to listen; because I realize, “Okay; I think that's God working to show me there's something here that I need to follow.”   I don't always know what the story is—but with Baby Wren and the Great Gift, the thing that struck me was—I was in Texas at Laity Lodge. There was this little wren called a canyon wren. Literally, one time, I was just hearing this huge song; and I said, “What on earth is that?” And they said: “Oh, that's the canyon wren. You never see it—it's too tiny to notice—and yet, look at its great song.”  12:00 That idea started playing in my head. I started thinking: “That's like a child. A child is only small, and they have so many insecurities; and where do they belong in the big world?”—that's where the book came from. That wasn't really me setting out with a message—it was me responding to a clue I was given and then following clues.  That's how I think the books come. I trust the Lord with that; because, if the joy and redemption are at the center of my life, they are going to be in my books—I won't be able to help it. In a way, that frees me to trust the Lord—that my passion is to bless children with the truth and with hope. That can come in the form of pre-evangelistic—it can be like Emily Dickinson said, “Tell all of the truth, but tell it slant.”  The thing about the story is—you're not coming at it, head on, like you are with The Jesus Storybook Bible—but even there, it's a story. Every time you tell a story, what happens is—it captures your heart. It doesn't come at you with rules and lessons; it comes around the side and it captures your heart. I just basically trust that, “If something moves me, that's something I need to listen to.” 13:00 Dennis: I think you're exhorting us, as adults, as we tell stories to kids, “Let's leave room for imagination.”  Sally: Yes; that's really well-put. Dennis: Comment, if you would, on your children's book called Found. Bob: You said that's an edible book; right? Sally: Yes! It's The Jesus Storybook Bible—the edible version. [Laughter] Basically, it's a padded board book. The board book is one of those books that toddlers cannot rip.  Barbara: They can chew on. Sally: They can chew on and not destroy—  Dennis: Oh! Okay. Sally: —because, when you are a baby, you don't read them; you eat them. Dennis: You are going all the way through the 23rd Psalm and just unpacking it, verse by verse.  Sally: Yes; it's the same version as in The Jesus Storybook Bible. We re-illustrated it—we have given it like 12 spreads, I think. If you put, individually, one line on a page and then you illustrate it, you give space to the whole psalm. Jago has done the most incredible job of—what we talk about in picture books, you have to have heart—you have to have it in the text, and you have to have it in the art.  14:00 That's an indefinable thing; but you know when you haven't got it, and you know when you get it. Dennis: Well, you've got it; because here's the—I guess, almost halfway through the book—“…even when I walk through the dark, scary, lonely places…”—there's a lonely lamb in a valley with a rainstorm. Barbara: That's my favorite spread. Dennis: It is mine too. Barbara: Because that little lamb—it's just so representative of, not just children, but all of us.  Sally: Yes. Barbara: He looks so alone, and I think that just captures what we all feel that the 23rd Psalm speaks to. Sally: You know what's interesting? It's children's favorite spread, as well. Barbara: Oh, is it? Sally: They will always go there no matter how tiny they are. I think that's fascinating; because, again, we try and—it's appropriate to protect children—but we have to be sure that we are equipping them as well. Little ones know that not everything is right out there. Whether or not we're telling them, they know—so the more that you give them a safe place—  15:00 —that's why I think they love that spread, because they're looking at something scary, which they know exists; but they are doing it with you, they're doing it with the lamb, and together you're going to get through this story. It's very important that we let them look at the dark, not just the light, obviously, in an age-appropriate way; but I think that's why it's powerful to them. Dennis: Yes; and then the next page, of course, it says, “I won't be afraid, because my Shepherd knows where I am.” Sally: And he's panned out; hasn't he?  He's panned out, and you see that he wasn't alone—the shepherd was running. The look on the shepherd's face—again, heart—it's just so—it's poignant to me. When I saw the illustrations, I was just blown away. Dennis: Sally, I want to ask you for a book that you've never written / a book that has never been illustrated, but it's a story that is a book in your mind that you love to tell children. Bob: Are you looking for a scoop here? You trying to get— Sally: Yes; I mean, gosh! [Laughter] Yes; I know he's trying! He's got a notebook—I can see it!—and a recorder. [Laughter] Dennis: I've already got the publisher lined up, fellas! [Laughter]  16:00 No; I just have to believe that you've got a few tucked away that you've never put on parchment—it's just a favorite of yours. I'd be interested if you wouldn't mind telling it to our audience here. Sally: Oh my; I've gone completely blank.  Dennis: Have you?! Sally: Yes; performance anxiety, you see. [Laughter] I need to skip to the loo. Maybe I'll think about it. Dennis: Okay! We can come back at the end of the broadcast, and you can tell a story. Sally: Yes; okay; okay. Bob: Barbara, as you look at books and their illustrations, you recognize the power that comes. I mean, Sally's prose is beautiful prose; but let's be honest—the book, Found, is what?—maybe 40 words?—maybe 50 words?—and well-chosen words. The illustrations are what give the words a context and a texture that bring it alive. Barbara: I always looked for books for my kids that had beautiful illustrations. To me, that was as important as the story—  Sally: Oh, dear; yes. Barbara: —because I loved the illustrations as much as my kids did.  17:00 It allowed the story to come alive at a level that the words couldn't do on their own—  Sally: No. Barbara: —because the illustrations support it / they give it life. They make it three-dimensional. As you said, with that center spread of the rainstorm, it takes you to that place that the words alone can't do.  Sally: Yes; that's true. Barbara: I just think illustrations are powerful in books. Sally: Yes! I love hearing that. I feel the same way. I also think design—you know, like the cover—so much goes into a picture book. What you said is so true; because a picture book is a story told in two languages, word and image. The best picture books are when, as a publisher of mine said: “One plus one equals more than two. Neither of them would work without each other.” Also, what you want is that it should look as if the person, who illustrated it, wrote it; and the person who wrote it, illustrated it—they should have the same voice. Barbara: They both have a message too. The words alone don't say what the pictures alone say. They work together so that the whole thing is a much greater package, as you were explaining.  18:00 And it's a gift. When you get a book like that, you feel like it's a treasure. Your anticipation is greater when you get a— Sally: It's true, because it's beautiful. Barbara: —beautiful book than [when] you just get a book.  Sally: Another thing I'm passionate about is—beauty honors God—  Barbara: Absolutely! Sally: —when we do something beautiful. I also think it reaches everyone—beauty calls to everyone. Our job is to be as excellent as we can be; because beauty honors Him, and it also—it just takes away the obstacles. Like I was describing with the design: “If it's really well-designed, there's no obstacle to the story.” I think my job is always to get out of the way and let the story through. If you are a good designer, get out of the way and let the story through; and if you're an illustrator...  Bob: At what age do kids move beyond you? Sally: Never! I collect picture books, and I never grow out of them. They're an art form that—well, C.S. Lewis said it; didn't he?—when he dedicated—   Barbara: He did! I was just thinking about his— Sally: Yes! You probably remember it better, but I can't remember exactly the words. 19:00 Barbara: I don't remember exactly how he said it either.  Sally: He dedicated it to his—to Lucy—he said, “You're too old for fairy tales, but you'll grow up and become young enough,”—or something like that. Barbara: He also said something about “A book that's good for children is good for adults,”—if it's good enough for them, then it should speak to all ages. Sally: Like “There is no book that's only for children,”—is what he said—“only good for children; because, if it's not good enough for children, it's not”—something—we're really massacring this quote; aren't we?! [Laughter] Barbara: I know! That is the idea—I've always loved that quote. Bob: Have you ever had a desire to write young adult fiction?—or to write a novel?  Sally: Well, sometimes, I think about that; but then I think I'm already reaching adults in the best way, by reaching children. Bob: Yes. Sally: I just love the idea that they—you know, like Found, or Baby Wren, or Song of the Stars—they're books designed to read together; and the sound of the language—C.S. Lewis, again, said, “You should write for the ear as well as the eye.” Barbara: Right. Bob: And most of the books on my bookshelf have been read once, if they've been read at all. 20:00 Sally: Isn't that the truth? There, again—you see? Bob: But children's books?  Sally: Children's books— Barbara: —over and over. Bob: —books get read. I mean, we could almost recite Goodnight, Moon; can't we? Sally: Oh; I mean, it's a genius book; and it's so deceptively simple; isn't it? Bob: Yes; yes. Dennis: It is! So, I've stalled here for you. Sally: Oh, dear; you did, and I still haven't got that story. Well, I think the thing is—my stories—I may have them; but they are sort of, again, a bit like seeds. I never quite know what they are—I have to keep following them. I have lots in process but not—I don't know—if I've got one ready to tell, I usually do it— Barbara: So you have lots of ideas, but they haven't been developed yet.  Sally: Yes; like picture books—I can have an idea that can sort of—I was going to say “vegetate”—that's not the right word; is it? Barbara: —germinate. [Laughter] Sally: —germinate / vegetate doesn't sound nice—germinate—thank you!—for several years. I find that's the best way; because, again, following clues—I follow clues.  Sometimes—I'm working on a middle-grade novel; but I—you know, sometimes, you don't actually want to talk about the book until it's done; because, if you talk about it, you've kind of told the story and you take away the energy you need to finish it.  21:00 So, that's a good excuse; isn't it? [Laughter] Dennis: It really is!  Sally: You can't say anything now. Barbara: It works; it works! Dennis: I just hope you‘ll come back,  Sally: I'd love to come back; it's always so fun! Dennis: So, you just need to know—Bob is a “foodie.” So, next time you come back, bring bread crumbs and— Sally and Barbara: —figgy pudding. Dennis: —figgy pudding! Sally: Well, I might send you a figgy pudding. Bob: I'm waiting for it; yes. Sally: No; he looks like it's a threat! [Laughter] I might send it to you, and you might have to eat it on air! Bob: I will—I will eat your figgy pudding. Barbara: If you send it, we will have to taste it for sure, after all of that! Sally: Okay. Bob: Then, I'll let you know whether to send me anymore after that. [Laughter] Dennis: That's right! I will—if I eat it, and I like it—I will repent of all my—not all—but some of my comments about English food. [Laughter] Sally: I think you're just really jealous of England really; aren't you? Dennis: Oh, I do love England!  Barbara: We really do love England. Dennis: I do! We had a delightful time. Sally: You're right. English food—you don't really see English food restaurants. Although, you do in New York—fish ‘n chips / Toad in the Hole! Now, I'm really confusing you! [Laughter]  Dennis: No; no. I know—[Laughter] 22:00 Bob: By the way, we have none of that in our FamilyLife Today Resource Center; but we do have some of Sally's books. Dennis: Toad in the hole? We've got some of that; don't we? Bob: It's not in the FamilyLife Today Resource Center. [Laughter] You can go, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com to find out more about the books that Sally has written for children: the Christmas story—Song of the Stars; the 23rd Psalm book called Found; and of course, The Jesus Storybook Bible. We've got all of those available, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call to order at 1-800- FL-TODAY.  We've also got the resources Barbara Rainey has worked on for the holiday season for families, including her new set of Christmas tree ornaments that reflect the Eternal Names of Jesus. Find out more about those when you go to FamilyLifeToday.com. Or call if you have any questions: 1-800-358-6329—that's 1-800-“F” as in family, “L” as in life, and then the word, “TODAY.” 23:00 Now, as Dennis mentioned earlier, this is a significant time of year for this ministry. We're hoping to hear from listeners to take advantage of a matching-gift opportunity that has been made available to us. Our friend, Michelle Hill, who is the host of FamilyLife This Week, is keeping us up to date this month on all that's going on with the matching gift. Hi, Michelle! 23:21 Michelle:  Hi Bob J yeah, what's happened is pretty simple…and very generous. Some friends of FamilyLife offered to match every donation in December, so yesterday…when Leona from Pennsylvania called in? Our friends matched Leona's gift, dollar for dollar! Simple! Your gifts are being matched all December, up to a total of two million dollars, and Bob? As of today, our listeners have given just over three hundred six thousand dollars…which is REALLY encouraging! Bob: It is indeed! You can donate, online, at FamilyLifeToday.com; or you can call 1-800-FL-TODAY to donate. Or you can mail your donation to FamilyLife Today at PO Box 7111, Little Rock, AR; and our zip code is 72223. 24:00 And we hope you have a great weekend. Hope you and your family are able to worship together in your local church this weekend, and I hope you can join us back on Monday. John Stonestreet will be here to talk about how we can raise children in a culture that does not always support what we believe. Hope you can be with us as well. I want to thank our engineer today, Keith Lynch, along with our entire broadcast production team. On behalf of our host, Dennis Rainey, I'm Bob Lepine. We will see you back next time for another edition of FamilyLife Today.  FamilyLife Today is a production of FamilyLife of Little Rock, Arkansas; a Cru® Ministry.Help for today. Hope for tomorrow.  We are so happy to provide these transcripts to you. However, there is a cost to produce them for our website. 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This week, Chris and Kristie break down Italian week with Bake off Australia finalist Monica. We talk pizza disasters, ask if a cannoli is really baking, and relive the nightmare that was a first for British Bake Off, but Australian viewers were all too familiar with, the dreaded Sfogliatelle Find Monica at Moreish Cakes on facebook! 

Rod Shepherd Conspiracy Theorist, truth detective and agent of news investigates each week the nations cutting questions. JFK, 911, why British Bake Off moved to Channel Four. Alongside Rod is Damien, assistant organiser of the Conspiracy Meet Up Group. Each week Rod will be joined by other members of his group to discuss in depth and providing he can pick up the internet connection from the cafe next door the issues that truly matter to the British people.

If you're a Netflix subscriber or you're from the UK or you're just really good at torrenting you may have seen a show recently called "The Great British Bake Off." This show unquestionably rules and if you haven't seen it check it out. The reason I bring it up is this week's guest, Cory Allen, is also a fan of "The British Bake Off" which adds to his reputation of guy who likes cool things. If you're a long time listener, you may remember Cory from episode 39. Cory hosts a wonderful podcast called The Astral Hustle which happens to be on MindPod Network . Cory is one of the most grounded, down to earth and easygoing people I've come across in my 33 trips around the sun. In this episode, we talk about putting practices into action when you go through tough times. Basically, when the shit hits the fan what can we actually do that helps? So, yeah. That's this episode. And we talk about the baking show too. Check out Cory over at his website: http://www.cory-allen.com/ and Check out Cory's Meditation Course: Release Into Now

From David Bowie to George Michael, celebrity deaths are becoming increasingly common, as the rock generation reaches retirement age. How does a paper of record go about documenting their lives? Simon Pearson is Obituaries Editor of The Times, and in this interview with Olly he explains how profiles of the great and the good are created - ready to be published the moment a notable name pops their clogs - and how lesser-known figures also find their way on to the paper’s illustrious pages. Elsewhere this episode, Ollie Peart brings us news of meme warfare, holographic phones and animated April Fools pranks in this week’s Zeitgeist. And, in new feature The Lifehack, British Bake Off winner Edd Kimber (theboywhobakes.co.uk) reveals his baking tips, courtesy of Squarespace. Meanwhile, down The Foxhole, Alix Fox is angry about ‘the world’s first smart condom’, and tackles one of the most popular questions to grace our mailbag: what do you do when your sex drive vastly exceeds that of your partner? Got a question for Alix? Just visit MODERNMANN.CO.UK and click Feedback - you can remain anonymous if you wish. The Foxhole is brought to you by our friends at mycondom.com. Use the code ‘FOXHOLE’ at Checkout to get an astonishing 15% OFF! And, if you want to build yourself a website, do check out our sponsors Squarespace.com - use the code 'MANN' for 10% off a year's subscription. Our record of the week is ‘Lava’ by Tender Central, available to stream now thanks to Boom Ting Recordings. See You Next Tuesday! Presenter: Olly Mann. Contributors: Ollie Peart, Alix Fox. Producer: Matt Hill. Theme Music: 'Skies Over Cairo' by Django Django. Graphic Design: Jenny Mann Design. Copyright: Olly Mann / Rethink Audio 2017. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

On this episode of Cinema Bacon, Ryan is joined by Jacob, Chris, and guest host Grant. They review Ridley Scott's THE MARTIAN, discuss SICARIO, THE WALK, THE REVENANT trailer, and Chris' love for hour-long british baking shows. SHOW NOTES 00:34 - Intro 04:17 - What We've Been Watching (Chris: MIRANDA, BRITISH BAKE-OFF, THE DROPBOX. Jacob: THE WALK, EVEREST. Grant: WHITE COLLAR, MAD MAX: FURY ROAD, CHEF'S TABLE. Ryan: SICARIO, THE REVENANT trailer) 27:00 - THE MARTIAN review