DreamPath Podcast

Bryan and Jason discuss takeaways from Bryan's chat with writer, producer, and food critic Bill Oakley. They also talk about the overwhelmingly positive response to the Mark Lanegan tribute episode. Finally, Bryan and Jason talk about taking a break from podcasting so they can focus on family and other creative endeavors.  

Bill Oakley is a Portland-based writer and producer known for his work on The Simpsons (where he was executive producer and showrunner for the 7th and 8th Seasons), Futurama, Regular Show, and Mission Hill. His most recent shows include Porlandia, Disenchantment, Chicago Party Aunt, and Close Enough on HBO Max. Bill is also popular on Instagram and Twitter (@thatbilloakley), where he reviews fast food from the comfort of his car, and is referred to as the Gordon Ramsay of Fast Food by The Wrap Entertainment News. He has also been featured on the Netflix travel cuisine documentary Somebody Feed Phil, and is featured regularly for his food opinions on the History Channel as well.  What you will learn: How Bill broke into the world of writing for animated television.  The advantages and disadvantages of writing partners. What it was like writing for and being a showrunner on The Simpsons in the 1990s. Strategies Bill implements as a writer to avoid distractions and enhance productivity.  Why writer's rooms are overrated. How writers on animated shows were paid differently in the 80s and 90s vs. today.  How residuals work for television writers How Bill found creative freedom as a food critic.  How Bill hopes to parlay his food blogging success on social media into career opportunities.  Resources: Bill Oakley's Twitter, Instagram

Bryan and Jason discuss takeaways from Bryan's chat with Rayka Zehtabchi and Shaandiin Tome, who co-directed the documentary short Long Line of Ladies, which premiered at Sundance and is now showing at SXSW. Bryan and Jason also talk about the situation in Ukraine and Jason talks about the music he has been writing and recording, which will be available in May. 

Rayka Zehtabchi is a Los Angeles-based filmmaker who won the Academy Award for her film Period. End of Sentence in 2019. Shaandiin Tome is an Albuquerque, New Mexico-based filmmaker whose breakout, award-winning short film Mud (Hashtł'ishnii) premiered at Sundance Film Festival in 2018. Rayka and Shaandiin co-directed the documentary short Long Line of Ladies, which premiered at 2022 Sundance Film Festival, and will be featured at SXSW next week. Long Line of Ladies follows a girl and her tribal community as they prepare for her Ihuk, the once-dormant coming of age ceremony of the Karuk tribe of Northern California. What you will learn: How Rayka and Shaandiin found the story for Long Line of Ladies and brought it to film.  What inspired them to tell the story of a tribe which resurrected a long-dormant coming of age ceremony for young girls.  How Long Line of Ladies thematically is very different from Period. End of Sentence.  Why they chose to lean into the positivity and lack of conflict they discovered in this story, as opposed to search for conflict as a story-telling device.  The challenges they faced co-directing with each other for the first time.  The choices they made before filming regarding what aspect of the story they wanted to tell, and what part of the story they chose to leave to the imagination of the audience.  The challenges they faced using 16 mm film as opposed to digital cameras.  Why they are excited to show the film at SXSW. What types of projects they hope to focus on in 2022. Resources: Rayka's website, Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter Shaandiin's website, Instagram, and Facebook Long Line of Ladies Trailer

Bryan and Jason talk about the loss of Pacific Northwest indie rock legend Mark Lanegan, paying tribute to him and playing clips from interviews with musicians Moby, Mark Pickerel (formerly of the Screaming Trees), and Jeff Fielder, all of whom worked closely with Lanegan at various points in his career. 

Bryan and Jason discuss takeaways from Bryan's chat with Josef Kubota Wladyka, who wrote and directed Catch The Fair One (now on VOD), as well as takeaways from Bryan's chat with film producer Sunil Perkash, who produced Last Survivors (now on VOD). Bryan also talks about a recent illness which humbled him and made him grateful to be alive, Bryan tells Jason about two HBO Max shows he watched recently (Peacemaker and Station Eleven), and Bryan talks about his upcoming interview with Bill Oakley. 

Film producer Sunil Perkash developed major studios hits like BLAST FROM THE PAST starring Brendon Frasier, Alicia Silverstone, Sissy Spacek and Christopher Walken, PREMONITION , starring Sandra Bullock, and Disney's blockbuster hit ENCHANTED, starring Amy Adams, which grossed $340 million, and received multiple oscar and golden globe nominations. Sunil then produced SALT, starring Angelina Jolie and grossing $300 million. He is currently in post production on DISENCHANTED, a sequel to ENCHANTED for Disney Plus starring Amy Adams and Patrick Dempsey. His most recent indie film is LAST SURVIVORS, starring Alicia Silverstone, Stephen Moyer and Drew Van Acker. Last Survivors is a dystopian thriller about a father and son living isolated, off the grid, in a frigid wilderness to keep safe from a decaying civilization. But their perfect mini-utopia is disrupted when the father is severely injured and his son must go on a hunt for life-saving medicine, where he encounters a mysterious woman, played by Silverstone.  What you will learn: What it's like producing films for major film studios vs. indie films. Why his passion is in independent film.     How seeing Dances With Wolves during his senior year at Stanford inspired him to drive to Hollywood to try to break into the film industry.  The challenges he faced making Last Survivors in the frigid hills of Montana during the pandemic.  Why Sunil likes to work with the same actors across multiple films.  How SALT, which was originally developed as a vehicle for Tom Cruise, evolved into a film starring Angelina Jolie.  How Sunil developed Enchanted “from scratch” and why he is so excited about the rollout of its sequel, Disenchanted, which he shot in Ireland recently.  What projects Sunil currently has in the hopper and whether a sequel to Salt may be in the works.  Resources: Sunil Perkash's IMDb, Instagram

Josef Kubota Wladyka is a screenwriter, director, and producer. His episodic television credits as a director include the netflix series Narcos, Narcos: Mexico, and Animal Kingdom, among others. Josef's most recent feature film, Catch The Fair One, which he wrote, directed, and produced, was released in select theaters and on VOD on February 11 by IFC Films. Executive Produced by Darren Aronofsky and Produced by Academy Award winner Mollye Asher, Catch The Fair One stars Kali Reis, playing a former champion boxer who sets off on a dangerous quest into the criminal underworld of sex trafficking to find her kidnapped sister. Kali developed the story for Catch The Fair One with Josef over the course of several years.  What you will learn: How Josef developed the story and script for Catch The Fair One with professional boxer Kali Reis over the course of several years.  How Darren Aronofsky (The Wrestler, The Fighter) became involved as Executive Producer on Catch The Fair One.  How Josef became the first American director of the Netflix series Narcos, and Narcos: Mexico.  What Josef learned directing multiple episodes of Narcos. How Josef balances the need to make money and pay the bills by working in episodic television, with his passion to make indie films, which take years to develop and are not always lucrative endeavors.   Bryan and Josef do a deep dive on some of the decisions Josef made in Catch The Fair One, regarding expository scenes (or lack thereof), call backs, and more.   Why Josef chose to disengage from social media after the pandemic began, and how this has helped him creatively.  Resources: Josef Kubota Wladyka's IMDb Catch The Fair One Trailer 

Bryan and Jason discuss takeaways with from Bryan's chat with artist manager/concert promoter Ken Kinnear and screenwriter Zack Ford. Bryan talks about his experience covering the 2022 Sundance Film Festival, recapping some films he saw at the festival. Bryan and Jason dive into the Joe Rogan/Spotify controversy. And Bryan previews his upcoming interview with movie producer Sunil Perkash, who produced Salt starring Angelina Jolie, Enchanted Starring Amy Adams, and The Last Survivors, starring Drew Van Ackle, Stephen Moyer, and Alicia Silverstone, which was released to theaters and VOD on February 4.

Zack Ford is a New York-based screenwriter who sold his first screenplay right out of New York University's Tisch School of Arts. The screenplay, originally entitled Scribbleface, would become Scar 3D, the first stereoscopic 3D horror film. Zack's film, Watcher, premiered at Sundance 2022 and was recently purchased by IFC Films for theatrical and VOD distribution. Directed by Chloe Okuno and starring Maika Monroe and Karl Glusman, Watcher is about a young American woman who moves into an apartment with her fiancé in Bucharest, Romania, only to be tormented by the feeling that she is being stalked by an unseen watcher in an adjacent building. This all happens while a serial killer is terrorizing the city.  What you will learn: What first sparked Zack's interest in screenwriting at age 6, how he wrote his first screenplay at age 12, entered a screenplay in the Nicholl screenwriting competition at age 16, and sold his first screenplay right out of NYU.  How Zack struggled in the industry after his first produced film, Scar 3D, was panned by critics, inspiring him to hack into Hollywood by creating a fake agency and submit screenplays under pen names. Zack's Script Magazine article about this journey is linked under Resources below. How Watcher finally got produced, years after writing it, after being optioned multiple times, going into production, and then being shut down due to covid, before finally getting produced during the pandemic in Romania.  Zack describes his work flow and writing process, which typically results in six completed screenplays per year.   How Zack's approach to outlining has evolved over the years.  Where Zack would like to see himself professionally over the next few years.   What projects Zack is working on and is attached to in 2022.   Resources: Zack's Website (Barbaric Media), IMDB, Instagram, and Twitter  Barbaric Media Instagram How I Hijacked Hollywood or: How To Sell A Screenplay: https://scriptmag.com/breaking-in/how-i-hijacked-hollywood 

Ken Kinnear is an artist manager and concert promoter. He managed the band Heart for more than a decade and is the creator/developer of the Gorge amphitheater in George, Washington, considered by many to be the most iconic outdoor music venue in America. Ken is featured in the documentary Enormous: The Gorge Story (now streaming on Amazon), and his book, An Ass For Every Seat, was released this month. Ken is also the host of a podcast centered around artists who have performed at The Gorge and just launched an “Induct The Gorge” campaign to induct The Gorge into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.  What you will learn: Why he created a podcast focusing on the Gorge amphitheater and what guests he's scheduled to interview. Why he is attempting to induct the Gorge into the Roll and Roll Hall of Fame. [0:00-16:14] How Ken found and settled on the breathtaking location for The Gorge, the logistical challenges presented by the geography of the area, and how he was able to spark artists' interests in performing there. [16:14-31:59] What led up the infamous 1988 Bob Dylan and Tracy Chapman performance at the Gorge that would solidify the venue's place in history, why concert-goers often compare concert experiences at The Gorge to Woodstock, and the fond lasting memory the venue has created for millions of fans. Ken also discusses Brandi Carlile's recent performance at The Gorge and what it was like seeing that show finally come together after being postponed due to covid.  [31:59-45:06] Bryan shares his personal connection to Ken, reflecting on the Gorge concerts he saw in his teens and their connection to his late father, Greg Smith, who was good friends with Ken. Ken talks about the power of shared experiences and the sense of community live performances foster. Ken also discusses the film Enormous: The Gorge Story, which featured him talking about the origin of this venue. [45:06-58:05] Ken reflects on how he got started in the entertainment industry, from, high school, to a military career, to business school, to car sales, and finally arriving at musical artist promotion/management. Ken also talks about what it was like managing the band Heart for more than a decade, including Ken's role with the band, and how he meshed with Heart founders Ann Wilson, Nancy Wilson, Roger Fisher, and Michael Fisher. [58:05-1:17:17] Going back to their personal connection, Ken reveals when he met Bryan's dad, Greg, and Bryan shares a story about his dad being kidnapped by Yasser Arafat. Ken also shares his own stories and touches on a fateful flight with Greg that inspired scene in Cameron Crowe's film Almost Famous. [1:17:17-1:39:28] Why Ken sold The Gorge to Live Nation in 1993, and what he has planned in 2022. [1:39:28-1:49:00] Resources: Ken Kinnear's: LinkedIn, IMDb

Bryan and Jason discuss takeaways from Bryan's chat with Michael Price, who co-created F Is For Family with Bill Burr for Netflix, and has written and co-executive produced on The Simpsons for over 20 years. Bryan and Jason also discuss Peter Jackson's new documentary on The Beatles, talk about plans for Sundance 2022, and preview next week's interview with artist manager and concert promoter Ken Kinnear. 

Michael Price has been writing and producing for the beloved and iconic television show The Simpsons for the past 20 years. In 2014 he co-created F is For Family, a serialized, animated series for Netflix, with comedian Bill Burr. Starring Bill Burr, Laura Dern, Justin Long, and Sam Rockwell, the series just concluded its fifth and final season. Michael has written for numerous other shows, including Teacher's Pet, Aaahh!!! Real Monsters, the Hercules tv series, and many Lego Star Wars projects.  What you will learn: What it's like working again on The Simpsons full time after the series finale of F is For Family. How Michael was able to bounce between the two shows throughout the creation and production of F is For Family for five seasons. [0:00-5:56] Michael reveals how he broke into Hollywood as a writer, with no backup plan, starting as a theater major, doing improv in New York, and then auditioning for acting roles before discovering that his true calling was writing. [5:56-15:10] Michael reflects on what what has changed (and what remains the same) in Hollywood for writers over the last 30 years. The pros and cons of the seemingly limitless television content available due to streaming, and the logistics of making a show for Netflix. [15:10-24:25] The nostalgia that F is For Family evokes for fans and how Michael was mindful of maintaining that tone, while also calling attention to problematic social issues of that era (the 70s). How F is For Family attracted such an amazing cast of voice actors. [24:25-34:43] Michael goes into detail about what staffing for The Simpsons is like and what “breaking story” means in the writer's room. [34:43-41:34] What it was like getting hired as a writer at the Simpsons in 2002 and how he ended up working on such a popular, beloved show. His personal dos and don'ts in writer's rooms. [41:34-52:16] Resources: Michael's: IMDb, Twitter

ENCORE EPISODE (Replay of Episode 3, April 9, 2019):  Rayka Zehtabchi is an Iranian-American film director based in Los Angeles. Her directorial debut, Madaran, is an Iranian language short film that has screened worldwide at established film festivals, winning jury awards at Hollyshorts, Urbanworld, and Cleveland International. Madaran qualified for the 89th Academy Awards in 2016. Rayka's documentary short, Period. End of Sentence., is about a group of village women in Northern India who start a sanitary pad business in an effort to improve feminine hygiene and de-stigmatize menstruation. Along with the film's release, the Period team co-founded the non-profit “The Pad Project” to fight the stigma of menstruation and improve feminine hygiene worldwide. Period double-qualified for the academy awards in 2018, winning Jury and audience awards at Michael Moore's Traverse City Film Festival and Cleveland International. The film also took home Jury and audience awards from AFI Fest among many others and won the Oscar in the Documentary Short category of the 91st Academy Awards®. What you'll learn about in this episode: Where Rayka went to film school, and how she was approached to direct her short documentary “Period. End of Sentence.” right out of film school How Rayka's first film festival in high school shaped her interests in filmmaking, and how she found purpose and community in filmmaking Rayka shares the experience of losing her father while she was attending USC film school, and how she felt pulled in different directions Rayka discusses her Iranian-language short film Madaran and why filming it helped her feel connected to her father and her Iranian heritage How Rayka was approached to direct “Period. End of Sentence.” while she was in her senior year at film school, and why the subject matter was a reality check for her Why “Period. End of Sentence.” was a powerful and necessary story to shine a light on an unspoken issue, and how Rayka directed it to be organic and authentic What impact filming “Period. End of Sentence.” had on Rayka personally and emotionally, and how she was inspired by the women she filmed How Rayka and the filmmakers got involved with and launched the Pad Project, and how the film has exploded and created global awareness of this issue How Rayka and her team turned forty hours of raw film footage into a 25-minute short documentary What challenges Rayka faced in getting visibility for her film, and her thoughts on when she realized the film qualified to be submitted to the Academy Awards What it was like accepting her Oscar, and what Rayka has planned for the future going forward

Bryan and Jason discuss highlights from 2021 and recap Bryan's interviews with Naomi Grossman, Justin Connor, Keith Thomas, Niki Pilkington, Sue Ennis, Moby, Mark Pickerel, Tommy Chong, Al Di, Jeff Fielder, Onur Tukel, and Justine Bateman. Throughout the interview Bryan and Jason play clips from these interviews, reflect on lessons learned from each guest, and preview what to expect in early 2022. 

Bryan and Jason discuss takeaways from Bryan's interview with director and screenwriter Tim Sutton, whose most recent film, The Last Son, starring Heather Graham, Sam Worthington, Machine Gun Kelly, and Thomas Jane, premiered on December 10. They also talk about the upcoming end-of-the-year recap, and preview Bryan's upcoming coverage of the Sundance Film Festival in late January. 

Tim Sutton is the screenwriter and director behind five critically acclaimed films, including Funny Face, Donnybrook, Dark Night, Memphis, and Pavilion. His most recent film, The Last Son, which premiered on December 10, stars Sam Worthington, Heather Graham, and Machine Gun Kelly. What you will learn: How the screenplay for The Last Son came to him during the pandemic, and how themes in the film reflect the state of the world during such an unprecedented time. [0:00-7:52] How Tim juxtaposed natural, beautiful light in The Last Son with the dark themes of fearing the unknown and existentialism. Tim also reflects on his views on the power of minimalism in film and in storytelling in general. [7:52-15:56] What Tim is working on next, including an adaptation of a Tobias Wolff novel, The Chain, why he never thought he would make a western, and how he approached gun safety on set. [15:56-21:12] What it was like working with Machine Gun Kelly, Sam Worthington, Heather Graham, and Thomas Jane on The Last Son. [21:12-30:09] Tim reveals his screenwriting process and the logistics of writing lingering scenes with no dialogue in a script, while still keeping producers and potential investors invested in the story. [30:09-35:36] Tim's experience with obtaining financing for indie films and the importance of finding your audience. What Tim has planned for 2022. [35:36-43:52] Resources: Tim Sutton's: Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn 

Bryan and Jason discuss takeaways from Bryan's interview with film composer Roman Molino Dunn, reminisce about Stephen Sondheim, who passed away last week, talk about Bryan's return to the upcoming 2022 Sundance Film Festival as a member of the press, and preview Bryan's upcoming interview with film director Tim Sutton, whose western starring Sam Worthington, Heather Graham, and Machine Gun Kelly, premiers on December 10. 

Roman Molino Dunn is a Billboard-charting music producer and an award-winning film and television composer. His film and television work includes HBO Max's Huracán, Ru Paul's Drag Race, Snakehead, and The Card Counter, starring Oscar Isaac, directed by Paul Schrader, and executive produced by Martin Scorsese. Roman has also worked with popular brands such as Burger King, Michael Kors, NBC, and Clinique, among many others, and is the co-founder of Mirrortone Studios in NYC. What you will learn: ​​Roman reflects on his long journey to working on acclaimed films and television shows, starting with a classical music education as a child, learning the "language of music," and ultimately studying music theory at university. [0:00-8:02] How formal music education has benefited him as a film composer and music producer. Roman also breaks down the distinction between film composers, music editors, music producers, and music engineers. [8:02-17:33] Getting technical, Roman reveals the computer programs he uses for scoring and what that process is like, from making musical “sketches” based on an early read of a script to the nitty gritty of payment for his services, including payment on “the backend” of a film or recording. [17:33-28:56] The benefits of collaboration when co-running his recording studio Mirrortone. How Roman got the opportunity to work with Paul Schrader on The Card Counter and what working with such acclaimed directors is like. [28:56-36:12] How film directors and music supervisors work together, and the research that goes into choosing musical instruments, sounds, and tones for each project. Roman also shares his go-to harmonies and instruments for particular types of scenes, depending on the emotions the director wants to evoke in those moments. Roman further elaborates on his trajectory in becoming a film composer. [36:12-47:28] Finally, Roman touches on the difference between the work performed by film composers vs. sound designers on films like Mad Max: Fury Road. [47:28-52:23] Resources: Roman's: IMDb, website, Instagram, Twitter (Roman Molino Dunn), Twitter (Electropoint), Facebook, Youtube, LinkedIn

Bryan talks about postponing (until January of 2022, due to some cool upcoming promotional events) the launch of his interview with artist manager, concert promoter Ken Kinnear, who is also the creator and developer of the iconic Gorge Amphitheater in George, Washington.  Happy Thanksgiving folks!  

Bryan and Jason discuss takeaways from Bryan's chat with TV writer and producer Kourtney Kang, who was executive producer on How I Met Your Mother and Fresh Off the Boat. She is also the creator/showrunner of the new Disney Plus series Doogie Kamealoha, M.D.   Bryan and Jason reflect on 90s television, discuss how well Friends and Seinfeld have held up over time, draw parallels between the rough first season of Friends and Seinfeld to the first year of DreamPath Podcast, and discuss year-end plans, which include applying for film festival credentials and recapping highlights from Bryan's 2021 interviews. Finally, Bryan tells Jason about how his recently recorded (but not yet launched) interview with music promoter and manager Ken Kinnear. Kinnear, who created the The Gorge Amphitheater in George, Washington, is featured in a new documentary on Amazon Prime called Enormous: The Gorge Story, and is launching an "Induct The Gorge" campaign to induct The Gorge Amphitheater into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Kourtney Kang is a writer, producer, and the creator/showrunner of the new hit Disney+ show Doogie Kamealoha, M.D., a reimagining of the beloved 90s show, Doogie Howser, M.D. Kourtney was also an executive producer on How I Met Your Mother, co-executive producer of Fresh Off the Boat, and supervising producer of Netflix's Pretty Smart. What you will learn: ​​How Kourtney became the creator and showrunner of Doogie Kamealoha, M.D., and how she and her writing team were able to thoughtfully and cleverly incorporate references to the original Doogie Howser, M.D. into the reboot. How setting and shooting the show in Hawaii allowed Kourtney to accurately represent Hawaiian culture and also hire local Hawaii residents to staff various departments on set. [0:00-7:35] How Kourtney managed to put such a personal touch on a show produced by such a huge network like Disney, which included basing the show's characters on her own family and basing the themes on her own experiences. How she was able to strike a balance between finding a personal spin on material for the show and hooking studio executives with the idea of a reboot. [7:35-15:11] The logistics of working in the writers room of Doogie Kamealoha, M.D. in the middle of a global pandemic, the importance of “story breaking,” and the benefits of having a diverse group of writers on a show depicting Asian and Hawaiian characters of all ages. [15:11-23:23] What it was like shooting on location in Oahu, and how her team was able to create a fabulous, elaborate set at a real medical center for Doogie Kamealoha, M.D. How the late Steven Bochco's family became involved in the show. How working on a network show, with rigid time constraints, differs from working a show available on demand through a streaming service like Disney +, financially, logistically, and artistically. [23:23-34:39] How her formal education at the University of Pittsburgh and Carnegie Mellon were formative experiences in her career as a writer. How the many twists and turns in her writing and producing career brought her to a place where she is thriving artistically and collaboratively. [34:39-42:57] How the writers room work culture has changed over the last two decades, especially with more women becoming showrunners and holding positions of authority in Hollywood. Why showrunners are focusing more now on efficiency over putting in long hours. Finally, Kourtney talks about the possibility of Doogie Kamealoha, M.D. getting picked up for a second season, and why it's more difficult today than it was 10 years ago to measure the success of a show on streaming services like Netflix or Disney+. [42:47-51:19] Resources: Kourtney Kang's: IMDb, Twitter, Instagram

Bryan and Jason discuss takeaways from Bryan's chat with screenwriter and director Justine Bateman, who made her directorial debut with Violet, starring Olivia Munn, Luke Bracey, and Justin Theroux. Bryan and Jason play a new song (Overcome By You) from Chris Kinkade's band Elsewaves. Jason talks about some new jazz songs he's been writing and recording, including a song called Water Visions. And Bryan talks about his upcoming interview with music manager and Gorge Amphitheater founder Ken Kinnear. Ken is featured in the new documentary Enormous: The Gorge Story, along with Pearl Jam, Dave Matthews, and many other iconic artists.  Resources:  Elsewaves Music Video for Overcome By You Elsewaves on Apple Music Elsewaves on Spotify

Emmy and Golden Globe nominee Justine Bateman is an author, screenwriter, producer, and director. After decades as a successful actor, with roles on Family Ties, Satisfaction, Men Behaving Badly, and Californication, Justine made her feature film directorial debut with Violet, starring Olivia Munn, Luke Bracey, and Justin Theroux, which opens in theaters on October 29 and will be available on VOD on November 9. Justine is also author of bestselling books Fame and Face: One Square Foot of Skin.  What you will learn: What inspired Justine to write the books Fame and Face, and what the writing process was like. Justine's thoughts on the concept of fame, what it means and what it doesn't mean, and how fame (or lack thereof) plays out at events like red carpet premieres. [0:00-12:02] Justine reveals why, out of the numerous screenplays she has writiten, she chose Violet as her first feature film to direct. What steps she took to make the film an immersive experience for viewers, and what the casting process was like. [12:02-25:28] How Justine found funding for Violet, the hustle required to pitch to film festivals, and thoughts on the shift in the entertainment industry (and humanity in general) due to COVID. [25:28-35:10] What Justine has planned for the future, from a new book to a handful of scripts, and the added hurdles COVID presents for filmmakers. She shares about her personal experience with sexism in Hollywood and how that did and didn't translate to her film Violet. [35:10-46:12] Advice Justine has for those wanting to break into the television/film industry, as well as book recommendations (listed below). [46:12-1:00:03] Why Justine toiled over the final edit of Violet and what steps she took in editing to help the film come together as she had originally envisioned. How the actors during the shoot were in the dark about much of what would be on screen until the final product was revealed. [1:00:03-1:13:38] Resources: Justine Bateman's: Website, Twitter, Instagram, LinkedIn Justine's book recommendations: ​​Like Brothers by Mark and Jay Duplass, A Man With a Camera by Nestor Almendros, The Big Goodbye by Sam Wasson, and A Life in Movies by Irwin Winkler.

Bryan and Jason discuss key takeaways from Bryan's epic chat with artist, musician, painter, author, and filmmaker Onur Tukel. Jason shares his thoughts on Seattle's recent decision to decriminalize psychedelic mushrooms. Bryan talks about a book on songwriting he just read called How To Write One Song, by Jeff Tweedy. Bryan talks about his interview with Justine Bateman which launches next week. Bryan and Jason reflect on memories of seeing concerts at The Gorge Amphitheater. And Bryan talks about the possibility of interviewing the man responsible for creating The Gorge concert venue in the 1980s: Ken Kinnear, who is featured in the recently-released documentary Enormous: The Gorge Story.  

Onur Tukel is an actor, screenwriter, producer, director, musician, painter, graphic novelist, and children's book author. His previous films include Catfight, starring Sandra Oh and Anne Heache, Applesauce, and Black Magic for White Boys. His most recent film is Scenes From an Empty Church, starring Kevin Corrigan and Thomas Jay Ryan, Max Casella, and Paul Reiser.  What you will learn: ​​The hustle required to be an indie filmmaker, and the uncertainty that comes with the job, even with numerous successful projects under his belt. How he is able to incorporate taboo or controversial themes in his films and still find funding. Why he prefers New York over L.A., despite potentially missing out on career and film opportunities in L.A.. [0:00-15:21] What it was like growing up in North Carolina as the son of Turkish immigrants, making movies with friends and eventually creating his first independent film, House of Pancakes, at age 24. The faith he had in his 2001 film Ding-a-ling-Less, and the harsh lessons learned about the film world when it was shelved. Onur discusses his eclectic filmography and the challenge of finding audiences for all of his work. [15:21-28:49] Talking shop, Onur reveals his camera preferences and style of filming. What it was like to film Scenes From an Empty Church with quarantine restrictions, what inspired him to make a pandemic-centered movie in the middle of pandemic, and why the film was a conscious shift from his previous style of work. [28:49-48:07] Onur reveals plans for his next film project, an absurdist horror/comedy, and touches on the deeper aspects of why he is compelled to express himself creatively. How he is able to be so prolific creatively in times of darkness, when other creatives tend to shut down and experience writer's block. How invaluable having a creative partner (or benevolent competitor) can be, and how sadness can serve as fuel for art. [48:07-1:00:16] How his personal views and perspectives are reflected in his work. How Onur worked to make Scenes From an Empty Church a film that anyone, regardless of religious belief, can enjoy and find common ground with the collective trauma caused by the pandemic. How Onur weaved themes of the soul and the afterlife into the film. [1:00:16-1:16:27] Onur gets candid about his writing process, his struggles, and the creative tools he has gathered over the years. His perspective on the importance of geographic location as it relates to success in the film industry. Onur also provides creative advice for aspiring filmmakers. [1:16:27-1:31:42] The story behind Onur's infamous appearances on Doug Benson's podcast, what led him to being kicked off of that podcast (twice), and the lessons he learned from those experiences. [1:31:42-1:40:09] Resources: Onur Tukel's: Website, Twitter, YouTube, IMDb Scenes From an Empty Church trailer

Bryan and Jason recap Bryan's interviews with guitarist Jeff Fielder and director and screenwriter Rebecca Eskreis. Bryan talks about his recent "solo-cast," shares why recording it was so difficult, and expresses gratitude for the positive feedback from listeners on that episode. Jason talks about a recent harrowing experience in his recording studio involving a chihuahua and two bottles of carpet cleaner. Bryan previews his upcoming interviews with writer and director Onur Tukel and writer and director Justine Bateman, and recounts his recent experience speaking at a seminar one day after accidentally shaving off his eyebrows. 

Writer, Director, and producer Rebecca Eskreis is a familiar face on the international film festival circuit, screening at SXSW, SIFF, Munich, and Stockholm, among others. Rebecca's directorial debut, What Breaks the Ice (starring Madelyn Cline, Sofia Hublitz, and Lukas Gage) was selected for the Austin Film Society's Artist Intensive, hosted by Richard Linklater, and releases in select theaters and on VOD October 1st.  What you will learn:  Rebecca talks about early inspirations for her film What Breaks the Ice and the theme of moral ambiguity that weaves through the film. [0:00-7:25] The significance of using the Monica Lewinsky scandal from the late 90s as a story-telling device in What Breaks the Ice, and how the lack of technology in that era allowed the story to unfold in a way that would perhaps not be as effective if the film were set in the present day. [7:25-13:53] Why What Breaks the Ice was filmed with a handheld camera for specific scenes and the world that effect created. How Rebecca worked her way up in Hollywood. [13:53-20:24] How a meeting with Diablo Cody inspired Rebecca to make What Breaks the Ice, and the work it took to finance and cast the film. Rebecca reveals why her short film Noodling was one of the best investments she made in herself professionally, and talks about the time it took to complete that project. [20:24-30:27] What it was like to work on Jonathan Demme's concert film Justin TImberlake + the Tennessee Kids, why Demme thought of this film (at least in part) as a “comedy", and what she learned throughout that production. [30:27-37:21] Rebecca's plans for future projects, including an exciting show in the works about the Von Trapp family. Advice Rebecca has for folks hoping to make it in the film and television business. [37:21-43:15] Resources:  Rebecca Eskreis': Website, IMDb, Instagram, LinkedIn What Breaks the Ice: Trailer, Apple TV  

Bryan talks about formative events in his life that made him realize the importance of living the life you want to live now.

Guitarist, songwriter, and producer Jeff Fielder has worked with notable artists such as Mark Lanegan (Screaming Trees and Queens of the Stone Age), Amy Ray (Indigo Girls), Stone Gossard (Pearl Jam), Duff McKagan (Guns N Roses), Sera Cahoone, and most recently landed a touring gig with the Indigo Girls. He also writes and creates music with his wife, Tekla Waterfield. Their most recent album, released this year, is Trouble in Time.  What you will learn: Jeff reflects fondly on growing up in Alaska, his early musical influences, learning to play guitar as a kid, and looking up to Metallica and Ozzy Osbourne. [0:00-11:36] How the freedom and support Jeff felt from his parents during childhood influenced his musical trajectory, and how he endured the jarring cultural change in culture moving from Alaska to Washington state. Jeff's thoughts on the necessity (or lack thereof) of sight reading music. [11:36-18:25] Why Jeff eventually let his passion for drawing go and fully embraced his passion for music, inspired by new artists like Nirvana and Pearl Jam. How Jeff worked to get his foot in the door and began playing with the artists he admired. Why Jeff at a recent gig in Seattle referred to himself as the Forrest Gump of Rock and Roll. [18:25-29:11] Why Jeff focuses on artists who bring deep emotion into their work. The logistics of touring with another artist, what Jeff feels the most passion for in his impressively versatile career, and how he began collaborating with Amy Ray and the Indigo Girls. [29:11-40:27] The impact southern musicians have had in music. How Jeff's collaboration with Duff McKagan began, which developed into an organic bond formed over time. The importance of pushing past fears and discomfort in music. [40:27-49:27] Jeff talks about his early songwriting and solo career and how his focus shifted over time. What it's like collaborating with his wife and creating music again, and why he felt it was important to achieve an introspective, easygoing vibe on their most recent album. [49:27-1:00:15] How Jeff booked a recent gig with fellow Seattle musician Alain Johannes and what he envisions in the future for his career. The story behind how Jeff ended up contributing to the musical score the film Hickock, starring Kris Kristofferson. [1:00:15-1:06:37] Jeff discusses the main challenges facing musicians, and aspiring musicians. Talking guitars, Jeff shares his go-to electric and acoustic favorites. [1:06:37-1:17:33] Resources: Jeff Fiedler's: Website, Facebook, IMDb, Instagram  

Bryan and Jason discuss takeaways from Bryan's interviews with film directors Amber Sealey and Michele Civetta, wax philosophic about the fragility of life and our gratitude for being alive, and Jason tries to make amends for a joke he made about Keith Richards, but Bryan isn't letting him off the hook so easily. To be clear, Jason is still going to hell. Finally, Bryan previews his upcoming interviews with iconic Pacific Northwest musician Jeff Fielder, and film director Rebecca Eskreis. 

Michele Civetta is a writer, producer, Emmy nominated director, and founder of the production company Quintessence Films. Michele's feature film, Agony, starring Asia Argento, was released in 2020. His most recent film is The Gateway, starring Shea Whigham, Olivia Munn, Bruce Dern, Frank Grillo, Mark Boone Junior, and Taryn Manning. The Gateway is a gritty crime-thriller about a social worker who gets in over his head when he tries to save one of his clients from her maniacal, drug-dealing husband, who was just released from prison. What you will learn: Michele breaks down what The Gateway is about and tells the story of how the script came to him and how he shaped it into final form. [0:00-6:30] What the casting process was like for The Gateway and how they were able to bring in big names even for smaller roles, such as Bruce Dern, Frank Grillo and Taryn Manning. [6:30-10:00] How Michele found his way into photography, shooting music videos, commercial work, and then directing. What inspired him to pursue a career in visual arts. How film school and the opportunities that film school provided led to directing feature films. Where Michele sees his career going next. [15:21-21:41] Why he chose to shoot The Gateway in Virginia as opposed to St. Louis (where the film is set) and the necessity of being flexible about a film's shooting location. How the pandemic affected post-production and the film's launch date, and how Michele plans to navigate COVID restrictions in the future, starting with how he writes scripts to what types of stories he may tell. [21:41-28:16] How Olivia Munn became attached to The Gateway and the amazing performance and generosity she brought to the film. Advice Michele has for young people aspiring to make it in the film industry. [28:16-35:50] Resources: Michele Civetta's: Website, Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, LinkedIn

Actor and award-winning filmmaker Amber Sealey has directed film festival favorites such as How Does it Start, No Light and No Land Anywhere, and How to Cheat. Her most recent film, No Man of God starring Elijah Wood, Luke Kirby, and Robert Patrick, follows the real life friendship that developed between FBI Special Agent Bill Hagmaier (played by Wood), and serial killer Ted Bundy (played by Kirby) during the last four years of Bundy's life, before he was executed.   What you will learn: Why No Man of God provides a fresh perspective on Ted Bundy's story, making it a unique and stand-alone narrative film, which can be enjoyed no matter how many Bundy films one has seen, and even if viewers know nothing about Bundy going in. Amber also talks about what drew her to a project which was much different than her prior work. [0:00-8:13] Amber discusses the questions No Man of God raises about the duality of man, how one defines good and evil, and how Elijah Wood had a pivotal understanding of his character and the film from the beginning. [8:13-17:52] What it was like casting the part of Ted Bundy, how she was able to talk Luke Kirby into taking the role, the joy of working with Luke Kirby and why she enjoyed shooting a film set in the 80s. Amber also gives personal insight into why screenwriters, like C. Robert Cargill who wrote the screenplay for No Man of God, sometimes choose to use pseudonyms in lieu of their real name on certain projects. [17:52-26:07] Amber discusses her previous film, No Light and No Land Anywhere, why she chose to cast her father in the role of the protagonist's “deadbeat dad,” and how the film creates tension in a different yet similar way to No Man of God. [26:07-30:34] Amber shares about her creative and artistic childhood, what it was like going to drama school in England, and how she found her calling in film. Amber also gives advice to young (and old) aspiring filmmakers, while emphasizing that there is no single, definitive path to success in film. [30:34-39:51] The experience Amber had making a short film and the financial struggles one can face trying to get a short film off the ground. Finally, Amber discusses the barriers to entry in the film industry, and shares tips on how to obtain grants and funding to create your own film projects. [39:51-48:27] Resources: Amber Sealey's: Website, IMDb, Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Instagram, YouTube

Bryan and Jason recap Bryan's interviews with Carson Mell, Olivia Taylor Dudley, and Al Di. Carson wrote, directed, and acted in the film Some of Our Stallions, which is now available on VOD. Olivia and Al co-starred in the film (which Al also produced).  Jason talks about his experience watching Some of Our Stallions.  Bryan and Jason also talk about the loss of drumming legend Charlie Watts of the Rolling Stones, and Bryan reviews the HBO series The White Lotus.   Finally, Bryan talks about his recent interview with film director Amber Sealey, who directed No Man of God, starring Luke Kirby (as Ted Bundy) and Elijah Wood (as FBI agent/criminal profiler Bill Hagmaier). The film dramatizes the relationship that developed between Bundy and Hagmaier during during the last four years of Bundy's life, before he was executed for murdering numerous women and girls. Bryan and Jason also talk about the allure of Ted Bundy and why his story has resulted in so many documentaries and narrative films.

Writer, producer, animator, and actor Carson Mell was a writer and story editor on HBO's Silicon Valley (created by Mike Judge), and wrote on Eastbound & Down, starring Danny McBride. Carson also created the animated series Tarantula (executive produced by Danny McBride), and wrote road trip comedy The Long Dumb Road, directed by Hannah Fidell and starring Jason Mantzoukas and Tony Revolori. Carson wrote, directed, and starred in his most recent film, Some of Our Stallions, executive produced by Mike Judge and co-starring Olivia Taylor Dudley and Al Di (who also produced the film). What you will learn: Carson's relationship with “road movies,” the inspiration behind his 2018 film The Long Dumb Road, and what it means to write a script on on “spec.” [0:00-9:12] Carson's personal path to the writer's room and advice he can give in hindsight. What the writer's room for Silicon Valley looked like and how Carson's connection with creator Mike Judge led to Mike executive producing and playing a character in Some of Our Stallions. [9:12-18:00] The story behind how the script for Some of Our Stallions was written, casted, and produced, and how the script was almost forgotten in a drawer for years before being resurrected. [18:00-25:43] Why Carson chose to take a nuanced yet realistic approach to the portrayal of mental illness with his character Beautiful Bill in Some of Our Stallions, and the choices he made to protect the Olvia's and Al's from the usual Hollywood tropes. Why Carson's friend Al Di views this film as the “first white guy/Chinese guy buddy comedy without Kung Fu in it.” [25:43-33:57] Considering all of the options his diverse skill set provides, Carson talks about where he sees his career going, provides first hand insight into how negotiating and selling a show/script works, and talks about his interest in writing/directing horror films. [33:57-43:26] Resources: Carson Mell's: Website, IMDb, YouTube, Instagram

Musician, film producer, and actor Al Di began his career in music before connections in the music world gave him the opportunity to produce movies. Al has produced Dreamland with Jason Schwartzman, Brigsby Bear with Greg Kinnear and Claire Danes, and Lost Transmissions with Simon Pegg, among others. His most recent film is Some of Our Stallions, which was written and directed by Carson Mell, and co-starring Carson and Olivia Taylor Dudley. This was Al's first time acting on a film he produced. What you will learn: How Al got attached to produce the 2018 film Piercing and what attracted him to the script. How Al found his way from music into the film industry. [0:00-8:08] What skills and talents are required to be a good film producer, and what skills he personally brings to the job, specifically in relation to Some of Our Stallions. Al and Bryan talk about their love of music, and Al talks about his music education and early music career. [8:08-14:08] How Al's passion to make a film whose script was being overlooked led him to pursue his first acting role, and the benefit to making movies with friends. The challenges as a producer of securing funding and distribution for films. [14:08-23:11] What Al has planned for the future, and why he is putting music on the back-burner. Why audiences should see Some of Our Stallions and what makes the film so unique. [23:11-28:09] Resources: Al Di's: IMDb and Instagram

Olivia Taylor Dudley is an actress, producer, and writer known for playing the beloved character Alice Quinn on SyFy's The Magicians. Early in her career she appeared in sitcoms such as Arrested Development, Curb Your Enthusiasm and The Mindy Project, but made a splash on the big screen with Chernobyl Diaries, Paranormal Activity: The Ghost Dimension and The Vatican Tapes. Her most recent film is Some of our Stallions, written, directed, and co-starring Carson Mell, and produced and co-starring Al Di.  What you will learn: ​​Olivia reveals how she landed the role of Bonnie in the film Some of our Stallions, how her previous friendship with producer/co-star Al Di convinced her to read the script, and how the positive work environment cultivated by director Carson Mell and Al Di on set, as well their genuine off-screen friendship, translated to the screen. [0:00-6:51] What attracted Olivia to Some of our Stallions and why she appreciated the way the film tackles subjects like mental health and friendship with a blend of comedy and drama. Why Olivia was so conscious about keeping her character grounded in reality. How Olivia, as a woman working in Hollywood, respected Carson Mell's ability to tell a story on screen without leaning on Hollywood cliches and tropes. [6:51-12:51] Olivia reflects on her early career and her journey transitioning between comedy and drama, as well as television and film. She also discusses what types of projects she's hoping to work on in the future. [12:51-17:51] What inspired Olivia to quit school and move to L.A. at the age of 17, the hustle it took to work in Hollywood before landing acting roles, how her got her first big break in horror films, and the importance of working in every department on set to fully understand the film industry. Olivia also talks about her experience making Paranormal Activity: The Ghost Dimension [17:51-23:36] How Olivia navigates the world of Hollywood while coping with social anxiety, especially when it comes to networking, and why situations like doing press at Comic Con for The Magicians actually helped her grow and learn to better deal with her anxieties. [23:36-28:39] Advice Olivia would give to young people hoping to make it as an actor and how her advice has evolved over the years. Finally, Olivia discusses the importance of humble, respectful, and hardworking in the film industry. [28:39-36:37] Resources: Olivia Taylor Dudley's: IMDb, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook

Bryan and Jason discuss takeaways from Bryan's chat with comedy icon Tommy Chong, give their respects to recently departed ZZ Top bass player Dusty Hill, and marvel at the the longevity of Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts. Finally, Bryan airs a grievance over a bass guitar he loaned to Jason. 

Tommy Chong began his comedy career in the iconic comedy duo Cheech and Chong. Together they recorded numerous comedy albums and made multiple films throughout the 70s and early 80s, including Up In Smoke. After Cheech and Chong broke up, Tommy performed standup and booked more than 60 film and television roles, playing Leo for five seasons on That 70s Show, and Yax in the Disney film Zootopia, among many others. Tommy has also been a long-time supporter of the legalization of marijuana and has his own line of cannabis products throughout the United States. What you will learn: Tommy reflects on how he got his start in comedy in the 70s, and how playing in multiple bands throughout the 60s prepared him for the world of entertainment. [0:00-12:52] The process and inspiration behind Tommy and Cheech's first, self-titled Cheech and Chong album, and how they trail-blazed through the LA comedy club scene. [12:52-21:21] The tumultuous events behind the scenes of Up in Smoke, and the tensions that continued into future Cheech and Chong films. [21:21-36:07] How, after the Cheech and Chong broke up, Tommy's wife became an integral part of his comedy act, and what happened to that dynamic when Tommy and Cheech reunited. [36:07-47:10] How Tommy approached comedy as a solo act and what parts of his Cheech and Chong persona he kept during his solo act. During his five season run on That 70s Show, why Tommy felt so comfortable playing Leo, even though he doesn't really consider himself an to be an “actor.” [47:10-56:06] Tommy opens up about his unique upbringing, including his time spent living in an orphanage, how a number of tragedies instilled within him early survival instincts, and how he found passion and inspiration in music. Why his humble beginnings as a child still affect his world view on consumerism and his definition of financial success. [56:06-1:08:56] Finally, Tommy talks about the medical benefits he has experienced using marijuana and CBD, and what plans he has in store for the world when his cannabis business flourishes. [1:08:56-1:18:30] Resources: Tommy Chong's: Twitter, Instagram, YouTube Tommy Chong's Cannabis (21+)

Bryan and Jason discuss takeaways from Bryan's interviews of Mark Pickerel and Jeffrey Paul King, review the new Paul McCartney/Rick Rubin documentary on Hulu (McCARTNEY 3, 2, 1), and preview next week's launch of Bryan's interview with Tommy Chong. 

Jeffrey Paul King is the creator and showrunner of the CW's The Republic of Sarah, and was a writer and producer for all seven seasons of the acclaimed TV series Elementary starring Johnny Lee Miller and Lucy Liu.  What you will learn: How Jeffrey's work on Elementary led to the creation of his show The Republic of Sarah. He also shares about the inspiration behind the original concept for The Republic of Sarah and the research it required. [0:00-8:22] What success means in the television industry, and the importance of understanding what creativity means to you. How the constraints placed on a series by a television network can be beneficial to the creative process. [8:22-16:37] Why writing pilot episodes can be especially difficult to write and shoot and how a particular, accelerated plot structure in a pilot can make for a successful start to a series, using The Republic of Sarah as an example. [16:37-21:37] How Jeffrey's music and theater background evolved into him writing plays and eventually led him to UCLA to study screenwriting. How opportunities he had as an intern on beloved shows like Brothers and Sisters and Grey's Anatomy blossomed into writing and producing opportunities on other shows, including Elementary. [21:37-30:08] Why Jeffrey chose to focus so specifically on showrunning in film school, why he is personally drawn to television vs. film, and why he values diversity in his writers' room. [30:08-40:58] Advice Jeffrey would give to young people hoping to start a career in the entertainment industry, and the passion and determination it takes to become successful in this business. An anecdote about Shonda Rhimes that highlights the importance of being helpful in any way you can when first starting out in Hollywood. [40:58-46:59] Jeffrey's perspective on the values of younger generations, and why he views their work ethic as different (not worse) than the work ethic of older generations. The charity work Jeffrey is involved in, and what the future holds for The Republic of Sarah. [46:49-54:30] Resources: Jeffrey Paul King's: IMDb, Instagram

Singer, songwriter, and musician Mark Pickerel was a founding member of the Screaming Trees, a PNW band that shaped the course of grunge history in the 80s and 90s. After recording five studio albums with the Screaming Trees and recording with Nirvana as well, Mark started the bands Truly, The Dark Fantastic, and Mark Pickerel and His Praying Hands, (now Pickerel and the Peyote 3). Mark has also collaborated with musical icons such as Brandi Carlile, Mark Lanegan, and Guns and Roses' Duff McKagan over the years. Mark's most recent album is I Have Visions. What you will learn: Mark talks about his most recent album, I Have Visions, and reflects on his evolution from Mark Pickerel and His Praying Hands to Pickerel and the Peyote 3. He also shares what it was like to perform live for the first time since the pandemic began. [0:00-10:25] How Mark and his fellow Screaming Trees band members grew to feel a lot of PNW pride during their popularity. What it was like forming his first band in high school and graduating with two records under his belt. [10:25-21:26] How his collaboration with Nirvana came about, and the catalyst that inspired Mark to shift his focus to writing and singing. [21:26-31:48] How Mark has grown to enjoy the song-writing process, the inspiration he found learning that there was an audience for his songs, and how he learned to lean into vulnerability. [31:48-39:55] Mark breaks down his creative process when writing songs, and describes the balance he strikes between letting inspiration flow and implementing technical structure to his music. What Dwight Yoakam taught Mark early in his songwriting career. [39:55-50:32] Mark recounts his impressive history of artistic collaboration, and how much of it was born from mutual interests and respect. He shares an amazing story about his first time recording with Brandi Carlile on her first album, and how he knew right away he was, “dealing with a talent of a different caliber.” [50:32-1:02:57] Why Mark chose to settle in Ellensburg, a small, a rural town in Central Washington about 90 miles from Seattle. Mark gives insight into the differences between Los Angeles and the PNW regarding songwriting and performing opportunities. Mark provides some upcoming show dates, describes his plans for future, and shares about his family life. [1:02:57-1:15:25] Resources: Mark Pickerel's: Twitter, YouTube, Spotify, Facebook Mark Pickerel and the Peyote 3 Bandcamp Page

Bryan and Jason recap last week's interview with David Magidoff, try to contain their excitement about the revival of Dexter which will be released this fall (co-starring David Magidoff, and talk about the benefits and challenges associated with starting face-to-face interviews against after more than a year of doing interviews exclusively by zoom due to the pandemic. Bryan also shares what it was like interviewing Tommy Chong and what to expect when that episode launches.  

Actor and comedian David Magidoff is the founder of Monkey Butler Improv, host of game shows such as Broke A$$ Gameshow on MTV and HQ Trivia, co-host of the podcast Fanaddicts, and will be appearing as a series regular in the revival of the modern TV cult classic Dexter coming out this year. He can also been seen playing Nicky Brooks on Season One of the Apple TV series The Morning Show starring Jennifer Aniston, Steve Carrell, Reese Witherspoon, and Mark Duplass, among many other stars.  What you will learn: David divulges what it is like to be in the middle of shooting the revival of such a beloved show like Dexter and what the audition process was like. [0:00-7:14] The impressive rundown of David's unique and consistent career in the entertainment industry and the path he took to get there - from competitive improv, attending USC, getting an agent, to finally booking his first gig. [7:14-12:05] David's experience performing stand-up comedy and why he personally prefers improv comedy over stand-up. How being skilled at improv can help one's acting ability, and how it helped David during his audition for Dexter. [12:05-23:22] Why David prefers to live in the moment instead of concretely planning too far in advance. How he handled working with such a star-studded cast in the Emmy-winning The Morning Show. [23:22-30:40] What it was like for David to work with the late, brilliant Lynn Shelton and how he reflects on her passing both as a fan of her partner Marc Maron, and as someone who worked with her professionally. [30:40-36:00] How David compiled his reel to audition for SNL and, despite not getting hired at SNL, how that reel led to a different job in the industry. David also discusses his new podcast, Fanaddics, which he co-hosts with Clare Kramer, shares what inspired him to approach celebrity interviews differently than podcasters, and talks about some recent episodes he enjoyed recording. [36:00-45:44] David provides all the information he's legally allowed to disclose about his character in the upcoming season of Dexter, which will be released this Fall. [45:44-50:34] Resources: David Magidoff's: IMDb, Cameo, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube Fanaddicts Podcast Monkey Butler Improv

Bryan and Jason discuss takeaways from Bryan's chat with Moby and stand-up comic Monica Nevi. Bryan brings out a Senegalese, goat-skin drum to play for Jason. Bryan and Jason wax nostalgic about the 50th Anniversary of Joni Mitchell's Blue album. And Bryan and Jason preview the upcoming interviews with David Magidoff who is a series regular on the 9th season of Dexter on Showtime, and comedian and activist Tommy Chong.  

Seattle-based comedian Monica Nevi began stand-up comedy in college and now performs nationally and internationally, headlining at Bumbershoot and opening for talents like Michael Ian Black, Sarah Colonna, Ari Shaffir, and Nick Swardson. She's also the cohost of the podcast HugLife, host of the 80 for 80 documentary series, host of the Dumb Pitches podcast, and has released two #1 comedy albums.  What you will learn: Monica shares about her experience performing standup in Yakima, Washington recently, and reflects on the challenges that specific venues and crowd demographics can create for comics. She also discusses her approach to crowd work as a comic. [0:00-13:12] Going back to her college years at Seattle University, Monica reveals how she intended to pursue a career in athletics until an injury shifted her sights toward comedy. Monica's early standup influences and the value in being vulnerable on stage and personally relating to your material. [13:12-23:38] Monica's dos and don'ts of open mic nights cultivated from her personal experience, and what she wished she had known before transitioning to longer sets. [23:38-33:35] What Monica's writing and revising process is like with her standup comedy. How HugLife Podcast came together seven years ago and how she and her co-host approach touchy subjects such as “cancel culture” on the show. Monica's personal experience with the now infamous Tony Hinchcliffe and her view of his racist rant on stage in Austin, Texas. [33:35-45:37] What Monica's newer podcast Dumb Pitches is about. The hustle it takes to make it as a successful comic, or simply make a living, and what Monica's next goal is in the standup industry. [45:37-1:02:08] Her observations about the ratio of male to female road comics vs. big city club comics. Advice Monica would give to others aspiring to make it as a standup comedian. [1:02:08-1:08:00] Resource: Monica Nevi's: Website, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn HugLife Podcast Dumb Pitches podcast

Moby is a musician, songwriter, singer, producer, and animal rights activist. With more than 20 million albums sold worldwide, Moby is responsible for bringing dance music into the mainstream in the United States, United Kingdom, and beyond. His documentary Moby Doc covers his life and career, his many musical collaborations with artists like David Bowie, and is an existential meditation on success and happiness. Moby's 19th studio Album, Reprise, was released in May of this year, and features collaborations with artists like Gregory Porter, Kris Kristofferson, and Mark Lanegan.   What you will learn: Why he produced a documentary about his life - the aptly titled Moby Doc, which took six years to make and began as a request for a memoir. [0:00-8:05] Why Moby doesn't read reviews or news regarding himself. What musical influences shaped him as an artist and how a job in a record store served as a formative, unique musical education. [8:05-14:12] Why Moby collaborates so frequently with not just iconic artists but with lesser known artists, and how he approaches the collaborative process. How he balances the necessary evil of marketing with maintaining authenticity in his work. [14:12-20:31] How Moby connected with Kris Kristofferson and Mark Lanegan on the song The Lonely Night on Moby's most recent album, Reprise. The importance of humility in the creative process. [20:31-25:52] Why the music video for his song Why Does My Heart Feel so Bad? is his favorite music video. The importance of purpose-driven art and activism. [25:52-29:50] How Moby's professional relationship with David Lynch began with Moby's sampling of a song from Twin Peaks, which then evolved into a 20 year friendship. Why Moby asked David to appear in Moby Doc. [29:50-34:53] Moby explains the thought process behind the touching final scene of Moby Doc, describes his friendship and work with Wayne Coyne, and discusses the importance of compassion when responding to existential questions in life. [34:53-39:38] Resources: Moby's: Website, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, Youtube, Spotify Steve Cutts' animated short, Man

Bryan and Jason discuss takeaways from the interview with Aspen Film Executive + Artistic Director Susan Wrubel, marvel at all of the love on YouTube for B.J. Thomas and his chat with Bryan in September of last year, and talk about an edge of your seat moment during Bryan's interview with Moby, which launches next week. 

Susan Wrubel is the executive producer behind films such as Maggie's Plan (starring Julianne Moore, Greta Gerwig, Ethan Hawk, Bill Hader, and Maya Rudolph) and Still Alice (also starring Julianne Moore, who took home the Oscar that year for the role, and Alec Baldwin). Susan is currently the executive director of Aspen Film, which organizes three annual film festivals, including the Oscar-qualifying Aspen Short Fest. What you will learn: Susan shares what her 4th year as an executive and artistic director for Aspen Film entails, and breaks down the details of the three film festivals they put on each year. She also discusses how they had to pivot quickly after the pandemic began to make their festivals “virtual.” [0:00-10:58] The importance of short films for audiences, actors, creators, and film in general. The sense of community fostered in the Aspen festivals and how inspiring it is to see the raw talent of thousands of filmmakers every years. [10:58-21:46] Susan weighs in on the fairness of having big name actors (like Will Ferrell) or directors (like Zach Woods) attached to independent film festival contenders when they are competing for limited slows with lesser known actors and filmmakers. The balance Aspen Film tries to create in selecting a diverse range of films, and what the selection process is like going from 3,000 submissions to 80 chosen films in the Short Fest. [21:46-26:45] Going back to the start of her career, Susan recounts how she steadily worked her way to the top, starting at a PR department in Manhattan, to moving print copies, then moving to LA to work for Paramount, then to London, until she eventually found her way back to LA working as a producer. [26:45-36:40] The relevance of the Alliance Film Series Aspen put on in 2018, and other films that deal with heavy, topical issues. The difference between a producer vs. an executive producer in the film industry. [36:40-42:52] How Susan's formal education did (and didn't) prepare her for work in the film industry and the skills that can really only be learned with experience. What Susan hopes film festivals will look like in 2022. [42:52-51:20] Why some shorts are difficult to find streaming online, and the logistics behind why Aspen can't put the films online, but resources where many can be found. The opportunities that accessible platforms like YouTube can provide. [51:20-56:50] Resources: Susan Wrubel's: LinkedIn, IMDb Aspen Film website

B.J. Thomas passed away after a battle with lung cancer last week. In this special bonus episode we are replaying his interview in its entirety, as it aired in September of 2020, as a tribute to B.J. and the 50 years of hits he gave to the world. RIP B.J. Below are the show notes from the episode.   ------------------------------------------------------------------ With over 70 million records sold, BJ Thomas is the artist behind classic hits like “Hooked on a Feeling”, Oscar-winner “Raindrops (Keep Falling on My Head)”, and (Hey Won't You Play Another) Somebody Done Somebody Wrong Song. With a total of Eight #1 hits, 26 top 10 singles, and 5 Grammy Awards, BJ was inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame in 2014. He has also been ranked by Billboard as one of the top 50 most played artists over the last 50 years. What you will learn: What the music scene was like in Houston in the 1950s and 60s, what BJ's first musical influences were, how BJ found his way into the pop and soul music scene, performing with acts like Jame Brown. [00:00-08:45] Why BJ focused on songs he connected with, what the collaborative process was like early in BJ's career, and how he got his start musically in a high school band. [08:45-15:50] How BJ achieved his first big break as a performer, how he overcame stage-fright, and how he found a renewed sense of health and fulfillment by learning to balance family and work life. [15:50-26:34] What is was like performing at the Oscars, working with the iconic Burt Bacharach, coping with the talk-show circuit as an addict (including a shocking admission to Johnny Carson on a Tonight Show appearance), and why he took a break from interviews until he achieved sobriety. [26:34-36:52] How BJ looks to inspirational performers like Tony Bennett while striving to live a life of longevity and maintain relevance after decades in the spotlight. [36:52-45:17] What business mistakes he made, what he would do differently if he could do it all over again, and what BJ has learned from his mistakes; also, the drawback of digital music recording and streaming vs. traditional studio recording and record sales when it comes to artist collaboration and artist royalties. [45:17-58:20] Resources: BJ Thomas' Website, YouTube, Twitter, & Facebook  

Bryan and Jason recap Bryan's interviews with animators Michael Surrey (Disney, Dreamworks, Spire Studios) and Shawn Krause (Pixar, Spire Studios). They also remember and honor previous guest BJ Thomas (Hooked On A Feeling, Rain Drops Keep Falling On My Head) who passed away last week from lung cancer, preview next week's interview with producer and Aspen Film Festival Director Susan Wrubel, and talk about some exciting interviews scheduled for June, including Moby and a mystery guest whose name Bryan shall not mention until their chat is "in the can."