The UpWords Podcast

This special episode of The UpWords Podcast features clips from talks given at Upper House in the Spring of 2025. Upper House Commons gathers the university community for spiritual, intellectual, and vocational formation. We explore big ideas and engage in conversations that matter within arts and humanities, justice and society, leadership and vocation, science and technology, spiritual formation, and theology. Whether you are a student or faculty member at UW-Madison or beyond, working in the marketplace, or serving in the church, we see you as part of our university community. Gather with us for one of our programs —our “commons”— each a pasture for shared spiritual, intellectual, and vocational formation. Talk 1️⃣ = Reimagining Our Moment for Whatever Comes Next - with Anne Snyder (Recorded on January 30, 2025) Spotify = https://open.spotify.com/episode/2fPLQhx0cdsXvUxzqP0YR3?si=Z4vbxvJMQM-fzwRKhhGkIQ Apple Podcasts = https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/upper-house-events/id1715922039?i=1000688980527 YouTube = https://youtu.be/Pg6ODIUp8yQTalk 2️⃣ = Can Fiction Deliver What Technology Can't? - with Casandra Nelson (Recorded on February 14, 2025) Spotify = https://open.spotify.com/show/5CosoSlCWKmUShqnEK75Re?si=74f6cd9ca9584036Apple Podcasts =https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/upper-house-events/id1715922039 YouTube = https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4uGiIvJTDePJylcsh84USjIpVkibpuM2Talk 3️⃣ = What Can Evangelicals Teach Us About Beauty? - Karen Swallow Prior (Recorded on March 14, 2025) Spotify = https://open.spotify.com/show/5CosoSlCWKmUShqnEK75Re?si=74f6cd9ca9584036Apple Podcasts =https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/upper-house-events/id1715922039 YouTube = https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4uGiIvJTDePTHdNbYsoMMf8ZX80eEUet

In this conversation, host Daniel Johnson welcomes Angie Ward to explore the themes of church and parachurch dynamics, the evolution of ecclesiology, and the impact of technology on community. Angie shares her journey of writing her book, Beyond Church and Parachurch: From Competition to Missional Extension, and discusses the historical context of church structures. They delve into the definition of church in today's landscape, emphasizing the importance of embodied community and the role of technology. Angie proposes a new understanding of parachurch as 'missional extensions,' highlighting the interconnectedness of all believers in a global ecosystem. In this conversation, Angie Ward discusses the principles of effective collaboration between churches and parachurch organizations, emphasizing the importance of open-handedness and a kingdom-minded approach. She explores the need for a collaborative ecosystem where different ministries recognize their roles and work together for a greater impact. The discussion also touches on the skepticism some church leaders have towards parachurch ministries and the necessity for these organizations to connect with local churches. Angie reflects on the current changes in the church landscape, likening it to a 'rummage sale' where old structures are being questioned and new opportunities for collaboration are emerging. Finally, she expresses hope for the next generation of leaders who are willing to learn from past mistakes and innovate for the future.Angie Ward (PhD, Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) is director of the Doctor of Ministry program and associate professor of leadership and ministry at Denver Seminary. She is the author of Uncharted Leadership: 20 Case Studies to Help Ministry Leaders Adapt to Uncertainty and I Am a Leader: When Women Discover the Joy of Their Calling. Angie has over thirty-five years of leadership experience in church, nonprofit, and higher education ministry. A sportswriter in a previous life, Angie loves running, basketball, humor, and movies. She and her pastor-husband live in Denver. They have two grown sons and one very spoiled beagle.

In this episode of the UpWords Podcast, Scott Cairns, a distinguished poet and educator, discusses the intersection of poetry, faith, and the creative process. He shares insights on the value of a liberal education, the role of poetry in society, and how his Christian faith informs his work. Cairns emphasizes the importance of community, mentorship, and the spiritual dimensions of writing, illustrating how these elements contribute to his artistic journey.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Poetry and Faith02:57 The Value of a Liberal Education05:54 The Role of Poetry in Society09:02 Scott Karens' Poetic Journey11:49 The Intersection of Poetry and Spirituality14:49 Creative Process and Writing Routine18:08 Influences and Community in Poetry21:01 The Role of Mentorship in Artistic Growth24:09 Faith and the Poet's Vocation30:00 Conclusion and Reflections on Art and Prayer

In this episode of the UpWords Podcast, Dan Hummel interviews John Wilsey, a professor and author, about his book, Religious Freedom: A Conservative Primer. They explore the broader themes of conservatism, emphasizing its historical roots, the importance of tradition, and the concept of aspirational conservatism. The conversation delves into key figures in conservative thought, the role of the conservative imagination, and the significance of religious freedom in contemporary society.John D. Wilsey is professor of church history and chair of the Department of Church History and Historical Theology at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky. He is also a research fellow with the Center for Religion, Culture, and Democracy. His publications include American Exceptionalism and Civil Religion: Reassessing the History of an Idea, God's Cold Warrior: The Life and Faith of John Foster Dulles, and Religious Freedom: A Conservative Primer.Chapters00:00 Exploring Conservatism Beyond Politics05:07 The Role of Tradition in Conservatism11:18 Aspirational Conservatism Explained19:24 Key Figures in Conservative Thought39:27 The Conservative Imagination and Inner Life46:26 Religious Freedom and Its Importance TakeawaysConservatism is more than just politics; it's a worldview.Tradition plays a crucial role in understanding conservatism.Aspirational conservatism seeks to align with transcendent values.Key figures like Burke, Kirk, and Virick shape conservative thought.The conservative imagination informs our inner life and values.Religious freedom is essential for a flourishing society.Conservatives should advocate for the rights of all, including minorities.History is a vital aspect of the Christian faith and conservatism.Conservatives must manage change rather than resist it.The relationship between freedom and responsibility is fundamental.

In this conversation, we welcome fan favorite, Byron Borger, back to the podcast. Along with host Daniel Johnson, they discuss the importance of reading as an embodied experience, the significance of seasonal reading aligned with the liturgical calendar, and the recent resurgence of work and faith materials. He emphasizes the challenges college graduates face transitioning into the workforce and the importance of integrating faith into their work lives. The podcast also highlights various books that can aid in this transition and the necessity of community support for maintaining faith post-college. In this conversation, Byron discusses the importance of balancing vocation and rest, the beauty of nature as explored through literature, and the need for community engagement in environmental care. They highlight books that inspire readers to appreciate creation, engage in ecological restoration, and reflect on personal narratives through memoirs. The discussion emphasizes the interconnectedness of faith, nature, and personal growth, encouraging listeners to explore these themes in their own lives.We encourage you to purchase your books at Heartsandminds Bookstore. Learn more about them here = https://www.heartsandmindsbooks.com/ List of books:After College by Erica Young Reitz (2025, InterVarsity Press)Serious Dreams: Bold Ideas for the Rest of Your Life edited by Byron Borger (2015, Square Halo Books)The Call: Finding and Fulfilling God's Purpose for Your Life by Os Guinness (2003, Thomas Nelson)Visions of Vocation: Common Grace for the Common Good by Steven Garber (2014, IVP Books)Why Your Work Matters: How God Uses Our Everyday Vocations to Transform Us, Our Neighbors, and the World by Tom Nelson (2025, Made to Flourish)Every Good Endeavor: Connecting Your Work to God's Work by Timothy Keller and Katherine Leary Alsdorf (2012, Dutton)The Sacredness of Secular Work: Four Ways Your Job Matters for Eternity by Jordan Raynor (2025, WaterBrook)Go Forth: God's Purpose for Your Work by Redeemer City to City (2025, Redeemer City to City)Birds in the Sky and Fish in the Sea by Matthew Dickerson (2025, Square Halo Books)Refugee of Faith: Seeking Hidden Shelters, Ordinary Wonders, and the Healing of the Earth by Deborah Rienstra (2025, Fortress Press)Backpacking with the Saints: Wilderness Hiking as a Spiritual Practice by Belden Lane (2015, Oxford University Press)Reconciliation in a Michigan Watershed: Restoring Kenoshae by Gail Hefner and David Warners (2025, Michigan State University Press)Beyond Stewardship: New Approaches to Creation Care edited by David Warners (2025, Calvin College Press)The Beauty of Dusk: On Vision Lost and Found by Frank Bruni (2022, Avid Reader Press)Mr. Oweita's Guide to Gardening: How I Learned the Unexpected Joy of a Green Thumb and an Open Heart by Carol Wall (2014, G.P. Putnam's Sons)God Struck: Seven Women and Their Religious Conversions by Kelsey Osgood (2025, HarperOne)Chapters:00:00 The Embodied Experience of Reading04:29 Seasonal Reading and the Church Calendar09:54 Navigating Work and Faith16:50 Books for Transitioning Graduates24:13 The Importance of Community in Transition27:04 The Balance of Work and Rest28:01 Exploring Nature Through Literature30:16 Creating Habitats and Healing the Earth31:42 Wilderness as a Spiritual Practice36:09 Community Engagement and Environmental Stewardship42:23 Reconciliation Ecology and Creation Care43:30 Memoirs and Personal Stories52:25 Summer Reading Recommendations

Welcome to The UpWords Podcast, where we discuss the intersection of Christian faith in the academy, church, and marketplace. In today's episode, we are delighted to welcome painter and author Bruce Herman and Mia Chung-Yee — concert pianist, music professor, and executive director of the Octet Collaborative at MIT.In this episode of the UpWords Podcast, hosts Daniel Johnson, Bruce Herman, and Mia Chung-Yee explore the profound connections between creativity, faith, and the arts. They discuss the legacy of composers like J.S. Bach and Mendelssohn, the personal journeys of the speakers in their artistic expressions, and the evolving role of music and art in spiritual and community life. The conversation emphasizes the importance of integrating art into worship and the discipline required in artistic practice, ultimately highlighting the shared human experience through creativity.The speakers explore the intersection of faith, art, and academia, emphasizing the importance of grounding transcendence in reality. They discuss the role of discipline in worship and art, the challenges faced within the modern academy, and the tension between artistic expression and academic expectations. The conversation highlights the need for a holistic approach to education that embraces both the arts and sciences, encouraging young artists to integrate their faith into their creative endeavors while remaining humble and committed to their craft.Host:Daniel JohnsonGuests:Bruce Herman: Painter, writer, and speakerMia Chung-Yee: Concert pianist, music professor, and executive director of the Octet Collaborative at MITGuest Backgrounds:Mia Chung-Yee:Internationally known concert pianistFounder and executive director of the Octet Collaborative, a Christian Study Center at MITWinner of the Concert Artists Guild Competition (1993)Recipient of the Avery Fisher Career Grant (1997)Educational background: Bachelor's degree from Harvard College, Master's degree from Yale University, PhD from the Juilliard SchoolFormer Professor of Music and Artist in Residence at Gordon College (1991-2011)Current Professor of Musical Studies at the Curtis Institute of MusicBruce Herman:Painter, writer, and speakerArt exhibited in over 150 national and international exhibitionsCollections include the Vatican Museum of Modern Religious Art in Rome and various museums in the United States and CanadaNearly four decades of teaching at Gordon College, founding chair of the Art DepartmentEducational background: BFA and MFA degrees from Boston University College of Fine ArtsKey Topics Discussed:The role of Christian faith in the arts and academiaThe intersection of faith and creativity in the marketplacePersonal journeys and career highlights of Bruce Herman and Mia Chung-YeeInsights into the Octet Collaborative and its mission at MITReflections on the impact of faith on artistic expression and professional developmentThe legacy of composers like J.S. Bach and MendelssohnThe evolving role of music and art in spiritual and community lifeThe importance of integrating art into worshipThe discipline required in artistic practiceThe challenges faced within the modern academyThe tension between artistic expression and academic expectationsThe need for a holistic approach to education that embraces both the arts and sciencesEncouraging young artists to integrate their faith into their creative endeavors while remaining humble and committed to their...

In today's episode, we are featuring a talk by Vanessa McDowell-Atlas at this year's Kingdom Justice Summit. This annual event is hosted in partnership with the Collaboration Project at Upper House. In this engaging keynote address, the Vanessa McDowell-Atlas reflects on her return to her community and shares powerful experiences from her involvement in a nationwide initiative to encourage voting through music. She highlights the challenges faced at polling locations, particularly in predominantly white spaces, and connects these experiences to broader social issues affecting marginalized communities. The McDowell-Atlas emphasizes the importance of positioning oneself for action, staying connected to faith, and actively participating in the fight for justice. She calls on individuals to take responsibility and get involved in their communities, urging everyone to 'get on your post' and make a difference.Vanessa McDowell-Atlas is a transformative leader, entrepreneur, and racial justice advocate with a passion for empowering marginalized communities. She made history as the first Black woman CEO of YWCA Madison, leading the organization through transformative growth, equitable initiatives, and the pandemic without layoffs. She is the founder of Madison Roots, LLC, dedicated to building generational wealth through Black homeownership, and VMA Entertainment and Consulting, LLC, offering DJ services and transformational leadership coaching for leaders of color and women. Currently serving as COO of Black Girl Ventures, Vanessa drives inclusive leadership and operational excellence. A recipient of the 2022 MLK Jr. Humanitarian Award, she holds a Sociology degree from the University of Wisconsin-Madison and serves on its Board of Visitors. Vanessa resides in Charlotte, NC, with her husband.

Welcome to The UpWords Podcast! This special episode explores the intersection of Christian faith in the academy, church, and marketplace. Today's episode features Dr. Christine Jeske's insightful talk from the Kingdom Justice Summit, hosted in partnership with the Collaboration Project at Upper House. Dr. Jeske, a professor of cultural anthropology at Wheaton College and author of several books, shares her extensive research on race, work, faith, and the good life. Her upcoming book, Racial Justice for the Long Haul, delves into how white Christians can develop long-term commitments to racial justice.With a decade of experience living in Nicaragua, China, and South Africa, Dr. Jeske brings a unique perspective to her work. Now residing in an old Wisconsin farmhouse named the Sanctuary, she continues to inspire through her writing and speaking.Tune in to hear Dr. Jeske's compelling insights and join us in this meaningful conversation on justice and faith.Enjoy the episode!

This conversation delves into the life and legacy of Hannah Moore, an influential figure in evangelical history, exploring her role as a novelist, poet, and reformer. The discussion highlights the evolution of evangelicalism, the challenges faced by women in these spaces, and the importance of activism and community support. The speakers reflect on personal experiences with criticism, grief, and the need for compassionate attention in combating bullying and fostering understanding among diverse perspectives.Our guest, Karen Swallow Prior, is a reader, writer, and professor. She is the author of numerous books and has contributed to many other books. She has a monthly column for Religion News Service. Her writing has appeared at Christianity Today, New York Times, The Atlantic, The Washington Post, First Things, Vox, Think Christian, The Gospel Coalition, and various other places. She hosted the podcast Jane and Jesus. Our host, Jean Geran, is a Senior Advisor for Foundation Initiatives at the SL Brown Foundation.

In this conversation, Dan Hummel and David Smith explore the intersection of Christian faith and education, focusing on how teaching can be a site of spiritual formation. They discuss the structure of Smith's book, 'Everyday Christian Teaching,' which emphasizes practical applications of faith in the classroom. The conversation delves into the historical evolution of educational materials, the importance of framing in teaching, and how choices made in the classroom reflect underlying values and beliefs. Our host for this episode is Dan Hummel, Director of the Lumen Center at the SL Brown Foundation. Our guest is David l. Smith, the director of the Kuyers Institute for Christian Teaching and Learning, coordinator of the De Vries Institute for Global Faculty Development, and professor of education at Calvin University. In 2024, he won Calvin University's Presidential Award for Exemplary Teaching. He has published extensively on Christian education and the relationship between faith and pedagogy; his books include On Christian Teaching: Practicing Faith in the Classroom, Learning from the Stranger: Christian Faith and Cultural Diversity, and Everyday Christian Teaching: A Guide to Practicing Faith in the Classroom.

In this conversation, Kaitlyn Scheiss discusses her book, 'The Ballot and the Bible,' which explores how scripture has been used and misused in American politics. She reflects on her journey as a doctoral student in political theology, the challenges of writing a book during her studies, and the importance of understanding the historical context of biblical interpretations in political discourse. The discussion delves into the complexities of how different Christian traditions engage with scripture in political contexts, particularly in relation to contentious issues like slavery and social justice.Our host for this episode is Dan Hummel, Director of the Lumen Center for the SL Brown Foundation. Our guest is Kaitlyn Schiess, she is the author of 'The Ballot and the Bible: How Scripture has been Used and Abused in American Politics and Where We Go from Here' (Brazos Press, 2023) and 'The Liturgy of Politics: Spiritual Formation for the Sake of Our Neighbor' (InterVarsity Press, 2020). She has also written for Christianity Today, The New York Times, Christ and Pop Culture, RELEVANT, and Sojourner. Kaitlyn is a co-host of the Holy Post podcast and the host of the podcast Curiously, Kaitlyn, two shows that work to help Christians think well and live faithfully in a pluralistic world. She has a ThM in systematic theology from Dallas Theological Seminary and is currently a doctoral student in political theology at Duke Divinity School.

In this episode of The UpWords Podcast, Dr. Uli Chi discusses the essence of wisdom in leadership, sharing personal anecdotes and insights from his book, 'The Wise Leader.' He emphasizes the importance of relationships, humility, and the need for genuine Christian wisdom in contemporary society. The conversation explores how wisdom can be recognized, the role of institutions, and the dynamics of power in leadership. Dr. Chi also offers advice for future leaders, encouraging them to focus on relational perspectives and the cultivation of imagination alongside rational thought.This event was recorded over Zoom, in partnership with the InterVarsity Christian Fellowship's MBA Ministry, on January 21, 2025. Our host for this episode is John Terrill, executive director of the SL Brown Foundation.ABOUT OUR GUEST:Dr. Uli Chi is known for his innovative approach to leadership in business, nonprofits, the theological academy, and the local church. An award-winning tech entrepreneur, he is an in-demand business consultant and holds influential leadership positions, including as board chair of the Virginia Mason Franciscan Health System (Pacific Northwest) and as an advisor to the Benaroya Research Institute and the Virginia Mason Institute, both in Seattle. He chaired the Board of Governors at Regent College in Vancouver, Canada and now serves as Senior Fellow at the De Pree Center for Leadership, where he also writes and shares practical wisdom for the "Life for Leaders" daily devotional. In addition to writing and mentoring, he teaches in Regent College's Master of Arts in Leadership, Theology, and Society program and at Fuller Seminary's Doctorate of Global Leadership program.

In this conversation, Byron and Susan explore the significance of Lent as a time for reflection, sacrifice, and spiritual growth. They discuss various resources, including books and devotionals, to help individuals engage meaningfully with the Lenten season. The conversation emphasizes the importance of slowing down, paying attention to one's spiritual life, and integrating faith into everyday experiences. Our host is Susan Smetzer-Anderson, she is the Senior Writer and Content Manager for the SL Brown Foundation. Our guest for today's podcast is Byron Borger, he is the owner of Hearts and Minds bookstore, and his knowledge of books and their shaping power is truly extraordinary. In this podcast, he shares his recommendations for good reads for the liturgical season of Lent. ====Watch this conversation on YouTube!https://youtu.be/JAca0Kuvwpk

This conversation explores the complex interplay of religion and politics in modern India, focusing on the historical context of Christianity and its evolution from colonial times to the present. The discussion highlights the secular ideals enshrined in the Indian constitution, the impact of British rule on religious identities, and the contemporary dynamics of Christianity in a predominantly Hindu society. The conversation also addresses the challenges faced by religious minorities and the ongoing tensions in India's religious landscape. We explore the complex interplay of religion, identity, and nationalism in India, focusing on the experiences of Hindu and Christian communities. It delves into the historical context of religious conversion, the implications of disinheritance, and the cultural differences in religious practices between India and the United States. The discussion highlights the life of Brahmabandhav Upadhyay, a figure who navigated multiple religious identities amidst the backdrop of Hindu nationalism.Our host for this episode is Dan Hummel, Director of the Lumen Center for the SL Brown Foundation. Our guest is Moe Banerjee, an assistant professor of history at the University of Wisconsin, Madison. Moe is a historian of modern South Asia, specializing particularly in the modern period. Her research interests include religion and politics in India, especially the evolution of the concepts of private faith and political identity in the public sphere. Her first book, which we're discussing today, is called The Disinherited Christianity and Conversion in Colonial India, 1813 to 1907, from Harvard University Press. During this episode, we discuss the long history of religion in India, the Christian missionaries that came in the modern period to reshape Indian religion and the religious landscape, the lesser-known story of Christian converts in India, and what those converts say about India today.

In this conversation, Al Erisman and Randy Pope explore the themes of faith, work, and navigating a polarizing world through the lens of biblical narratives. They discuss their collaborative writing process for the book Living with Purpose in a Polarizing World, emphasizing the importance of finding common ground and learning from diverse experiences. The conversation highlights the relevance of biblical characters in contemporary life and the need for Christians to engage with the world around them with humility and love.Our host, John Terrill, executive director of the SL Brown Foundation, welcomes Al Erisman and Randy Pope to the podcast. ABOUT OUR GUESTS:Al Erisman, PhD, current chair of the Theology of Work Project, former director at The Boeing Company, and co-founder of Ethix magazine, has spent decades exploring the intersection of faith and work. He is a senior fellow at the Center for Faithful Business at Seattle Pacific University and executive in residence emeritus. Randy Pope, JD, has practiced law since 1979, representing public institutions, such as public school boards. He currently serves as city attorney of Hattiesburg, Mississippi.====Watch on YouTube!https://youtu.be/3-G0up8XavI

This conversation explores the intersection of writing, contemplation, and community within the context of Christian thought. Jean Geran and Anne Snyder discuss the role of language as a tool for connection and understanding, the importance of contemplation as a form of resistance in a fast-paced world, and the need for community in fostering spiritual growth. They also delve into creating a manifesto to bridge the gap between traditional institutions and contemporary needs, emphasizing the generative culture that can emerge from these discussions. The conversation concludes with reflections on the next generation's challenges in navigating institutional landscapes and the importance of fostering a sense of belonging and purpose. ====Our host, Jean Geran, is a Senior Advisor for Foundation Initiatives for the SL Brown Foundation. ====Our guest is Anne Snyder, the editor-in-chief of Comment Magazine, host of The Whole Person Revolution podcast, co-editor of Breaking Ground: Charting Our Future in a Pandemic Year, and author of The Fabric of Character: A Wise Giver's Guide to Renewing Our Social and Moral Landscape.====In this conversation, Jean and Anne reference Anne's talk at Upper House. Here are 3️⃣ ways to watch or listen to this talk:

This conversation delves into the misconceptions surrounding Mary Magdalene, exploring her true role in Jesus' ministry and her significance as a witness to the resurrection. The discussion highlights the historical interpretations that have shaped her image, emphasizing her importance as an apostle and a model of faith for both men and women. Susan and Jennifer unpack the theological implications of her story and its relevance to modern Christian faith.Our host, Susan Smetzer-Anderson, interviews author Jennifer Powell McNutt and discusses her book, 'The Mary We Forgot,' which aims to clarify the misconceptions surrounding Mary Magdalene. We explore her true role in Jesus' ministry, her significance as a witness to the resurrection, and the implications of her healing. Jennifer Powell McNutt is the Franklin S. Dyrness Chair of Biblical and Theological Studies and professor of theology and history of Christianity at Wheaton College. She is an award-winning author, a fellow in the Royal Historical Society, and an ordained teaching elder in the Presbyterian tradition.====View this episode on YouTube:

This conversation explores the concept of redemptive entrepreneurship, emphasizing the role of God in the redemption process and the purpose of business in society. The speakers discuss their theological frameworks, the importance of intentionality in business practices, and the philosophical debate between operating within the existing capitalist system versus creating alternative models. They also provide valuable advice for aspiring entrepreneurs seeking to align their work with their faith and the common good.Chi-Ming Chien lives and works in San Francisco's diverse Bayview/Hunters Point neighborhood. He is a member of Redeemer Community Church, where he leads worship and serves as an elder. He co-founded Dayspring Partners, a digital consultancy envisioned as an experiment in Christian business. Victor Ho was co-founder & CEO of Fivestars, a FinTech startup focused on helping small businesses that emerged from God's call to “business as a mission field."

In this episode of The UpWords Podcast, host John Terrill, executive director of the Stephen & Laurel Brown Foundation, has a conversation with Chi Ming-Chien and Victor Ho to discuss their entrepreneurial journeys, the intersection of faith and business, and the importance of community and culture in leadership. They explore the Bayview-Hunters Point neighborhood, the evolution of their understanding of risk and reward in entrepreneurship, and the unique business models they have developed to serve the common good. The conversation also delves into personal experiences that shaped their views on leadership, healthy organizational culture dynamics, and vulnerability's role in facing failure.Chi-Ming Chien lives and works in San Francisco's diverse Bayview/Hunters Point neighborhood. He is a member of Redeemer Community Church, where he leads worship and serves as an elder. He co-founded Dayspring Partners, a digital consultancy envisioned as an experiment in Christian business.Victor Ho was co-founder & CEO of Fivestars, a FinTech startup focused on helping small businesses that emerged from God's call to “business as a mission field."====For more information about the Stephen & Laurel Brown Foundation and Upper House, please visit https://slbf.org!

In this conversation, Mary-Kate Morse discusses the significance of theological education and its role in preparing leaders for church and ministry. She emphasizes the importance of finding one's calling, the holiness associated with it, and the challenges faced by churches in post-Christian environments. Morris shares her experiences in church planting and the necessity of mentorship and grit in leadership. She advocates for a deep formation in Christ for ministry leaders and the need for tailored leadership training that adapts to unique contexts.======Key pointsTheological education is crucial for effective church leadership.Finding one's calling involves understanding who you are called to love.Good seminary education prepares leaders for long-term ministry.The church has lost the sense of the holiness of calling.Creating something from scratch shapes leadership skills.Building relationships in post-Christian cities takes time and patience.Grit is essential for leaders to navigate challenges.Mentorship is vital for developing the next generation of leaders.Leadership training should be context-specific and adaptable.Investing time in young leaders fosters resilience and commitment.======ABOUT OUR GUEST:MaryKate Morse was the former Executive Dean of Portland Seminary at George Fox University in Portland, Oregon, and a professor of leadership and spiritual formation. Currently, she is the Lead Mentor in the Doctor of Ministry program in Leadership & Spiritual Formation.Raised in the Air Force, MaryKate lived in various US states and overseas. She completed her BS in Secondary Education and English Literature at Longwood University in Virginia. With her husband, Randy, and small children, she lived in the Andes Mountains of Bolivia and Peru´ doing ministry and social projects partnering with the Aymará Indians.Upon return she did a Masters in Biblical Studies and a Master of Divinity at Western Evangelical Seminary (now Portland Seminary). She began teaching, studied spiritual formation and spiritual direction, and was certified as a spiritual director and recorded as a pastor with the Evangelical Friends.MaryKate completed her doctorate at Gonzaga University where she studied the characteristics of renewal leadership as modeled by Jesus. She continues to explore how the intersection of spiritual formation and effective leadership result in the transformation of individuals and communities especially for evangelists and front-line leaders in diverse cultural environments.Upon completion of her doctorate she planted two churches and served in various administrative positions at the university including Seminary Associate Dean, Director of Hybrid programs, and University Director of Strategic Planning. She is a spiritual director and leadership mentor and coach, conference and retreat speaker, and author including Making Room for Leadership: Power, Space, and Influence, A Guidebook to Prayer: 24 Ways to Walk with God, and Lifelong Leadership: Woven Together through Mentoring Communities. She is passionate about companioning and resourcing people on the front lines of ministry.MaryKate is married to Randy and has three adult children, six grandchildren, and a little Aussie, Tess. She enjoys being with family, hiking, reading, and exploring new places.

In this conversation, Rachel Mickelson, Co-Founder and President of Generous Jalopy, discusses the concept of redemptive entrepreneurship, emphasizing the importance of integrating faith into work and community service. Host John Terrill and guest Rachel Mickelson introduce the nonprofit Generous Jalopy, which addresses transportation needs for individuals facing economic challenges. The discussion explores the differences between exploitative, ethical, and redemptive frameworks in business, highlighting the significance of motives and community collaboration. Rachel shares personal experiences and insights on approaching nonprofit leadership and the value of listening to community needs. The conversation concludes with an invitation to join a cohort focused on redemptive entrepreneurship.Rachel Mickelson (guest) loves to see people, organizations, and communities thrive. Rachel is the Co-Founder and President of Generous Jalopy, a Madison-based nonprofit that brokers transportation solutions for people working with their nonprofit partners to stabilize employment, housing, and livelihood. Rachel is also an Enterprise Program Manager with the Strategic Development group at Insperity, where she drives innovation to help businesses succeed so communities prosper. For 19 years, Rachel has partnered with nonprofits, churches, and businesses to navigate change, foster innovation, and build effective leadership, strategy, and operational models. Rachel holds a M.A. in organizational leadership from Crown College and serves as the Redemptive Entrepreneurship Labs lead for the Madison, WI ecosystem.John Terrill (host) is the Executive Director of the Stephen & Laurel Brown Foundation, managing Upper House, Dottie's Ranch, and various initiatives. Previously, he directed the Center for Faithful Business at Seattle Pacific University and worked with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship/USA. John's early career includes consulting with the Hay Group and lending at Bank of America. He holds degrees from Indiana University, the Kellogg School of Management, Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, and a Ph.D. from Seattle Pacific University. John chairs the boards of Religion News Service and Science for the Church.

This conversation delves into the significance of Advent, emphasizing its historical context and spiritual preparation for Christmas. Byron Borger shares insights on the liturgical calendar, the importance of repentance, and the tension of living in the 'already and not yet' of Christ's coming. The discussion includes a variety of book recommendations that explore these themes, highlighting the role of literature, poetry, and community in enriching the Advent experience. In this conversation, the speaker discusses various books about Advent and Christmas, highlighting their significance in spiritual formation and family traditions. The discussion includes a range of literature, from poetry to children's books, emphasizing the importance of community and liturgical practices in contemporary faith expressions. The speaker also touches on these works' relevance in understanding the Christmas story's historical and cultural contexts.----Be sure to order your Advent readings through Hearts and Minds bookstore:https://www.heartsandmindsbooks.com/----

In today's episode, our host, Daniel Johnson, talks with Justin McRoberts, a musician turned writer who offers profound insights into the creative process and personal development. Justin emphasizes focusing on desires over pre-determined talents and the significance of self-discovery along the journey. For creatives feeling stuck, he suggests reflecting on the root cause and considering a break to reignite joy and willpower. He delves into the importance of dreaming without the immediate weight of responsibility, suggesting practices like Sabbath-keeping to foster this space. Throughout the conversation, they explore how failure can be vital to growth, challenging the efficiency-driven industrial systems in favor of personal development.----

In this episode of the Upwards Podcast, Dan Hummel engages with Michael Wear, founder of the Center for Christianity and Public Life, to discuss his book, The Spirit of Our Politics. They explore the intersection of Christian faith and politics, the influence of Dallas Willard on Wear's thinking, and the challenges Christians face in today's political landscape. The conversation emphasizes the importance of spiritual formation, community, and practical engagement in politics, especially in the context of the upcoming 2024 elections.----

In this conversation, host Dan Hummel discusses with Daniel K. Williams' book The Politics of the Cross: A Christian Alternative to Partisanship and explores the intersection of history, politics, and religion. He shares his background and interest in history, the misconceptions about Christians and politics, and the historical roots of the Democratic and Republican parties. Williams argues that the Democratic Party has deep roots in secularized liberal Protestantism, with a focus on equality and caring for the marginalized. On the other hand, the Republican Party emerged from Protestant moralism, emphasizing frugality, hard work, and opposition to the sexual revolution. He also discusses how these historical perspectives shape the parties today. In this conversation, Dan Hummel and Daniel Williams discuss the relationship between politics and Christianity, particularly within the context of the United States. They explore the historical influence of Protestant moralism on American politics and the role of evangelicals in the Republican Party. They also examine the impact of the Trump era on evangelical politics, noting both continuities and changes. The conversation delves into the division and polarization within churches over political issues, emphasizing the need for Christians to adopt a cross-centered ethic and approach politics with discernment and charity. The book 'Politics of the Cross' is discussed, with a focus on the chapters addressing abortion, same-sex marriage, race, and economics. The conversation concludes with reflections on the current political landscape and advice for Christians navigating the complexities of voting and engaging in politics.----

In this conversation, host John Terrill interviews Ed Ollie, Jr. Ed, a senior leader with appointments in campus ministry, churches, and the marketplace. He discusses the distinction between leadership and management, noting that influential leaders focus on inspiring and accomplishing results, while managers address complexity and follow strategic plans. Ed also reflects on his formative experiences growing up in a close-knit family and a supportive church community. He shares insights on leadership in crisis situations, emphasizing the importance of prioritizing family, maintaining clarity in vision, asking good questions, and seeking restoration and redemption. Ed and John discuss the challenges of transparency and accountability in the church and the importance of addressing failure and its purpose in personal and communal life. They also explore the characteristics of a healthy organizational culture and the need for leaders to lean into the process of diversity and multiculturalism. Ed shares his hope for the next generation of Christian leaders and emphasizes the importance of mentoring and empowering young people.----

In this conversation, host Dan Hummel sits down with author Daniel Silliman to discuss his new book, One Lost Soul: Richard Nixon's Search for Salvation, which explores the religious and spiritual life of Richard Nixon. Silliman explains what drew him to Nixon as a subject and how he approached researching a well-known figure like Nixon. They also discuss Nixon's upbringing as a Quaker and the influence of his parents on his work ethic and sense of self. Silliman highlights the significance of Nixon's presidency and his ultimate downfall in the Watergate scandal. They also explore Nixon's relationship with Billy Graham and his role in the Watergate scandal. Silliman emphasizes the importance of understanding Nixon's spiritual struggles and the complexity of his character. ----

In this conversation, host Daniel Johnson and guest Byron Borger from Hearts and Minds bookstore discuss various topics, including reading in different seasons, the church calendar, and the role of reading in the life of a Christian. Byron recommends several books on topics such as education, creation care, and politics. The conversation provides insights and recommendations for readers who are interested in these subjects. This conversation explores the intersection of literature, theology, and culture.----We encourage you to purchase your books from Hearts and Minds bookstore!https://www.heartsandmindsbooks.com ----

In this episode, host John Terrill has a conversation with Michaela O'Donnell and Lisa Pratt Slayton about their new book, Life in Flux: Navigational Skills to Guide and Ground You in an Ever-Changing World. We explored how internal and external reactions are crucial in effective leadership and the importance of profound inner work. Here are three key takeaways:

In this conversation, host Dan Hummel and Rebecca DeYoung, a professor of philosophy at Calvin University, discuss her background in philosophy and ethics, as well as her focus on virtue ethics and character formation. They dig deep into the relationship between modern psychology and sanctification, the challenges of translating between different disciplines, and the importance of ethics education. They also explore the benefits of looking beyond the Bible for wisdom on ethics and the legacy of Dallas Willard in conversations about sanctification and ethics. Rebecca emphasizes the need for character transformation and the integration of philosophy, theology, and spirituality to pursue a robust Christian life.----

In this episode, our host, Dan Hummel, talks with Paul Putz, the director of the Faith and Sports Institute at Baylor University's Truett Theological Seminary, and discusses the intersection of faith and sports from a historical perspective. He shares his personal interest in sports and how it led him to study the topic academically. Paul highlights the cultural significance of sports and the narratives they create. He also discusses the role of sports in shaping identity and community. Paul emphasizes the importance of meeting students where they are in their love for sports while also introducing them to a historical perspective. In this conversation, Paul Putz discusses the intersection of sports and Christianity, focusing on sports' historical and cultural context. He emphasizes contextualizing texts and understanding the cultural meaning of sports events and narratives.----

In this engaging conversation, Rachel Pieh Jones and Susan Smetzer-Anderson share their insights on the challenges and lessons learned from living in a cross-cultural context. They delve into topics such as cultural divisions, finding a church community in Djibouti, serving the poor, and the discomfort of returning to one's home country. Rachel's personal stories and reflections underscore the importance of being present with others, fostering a sense of connection and engagement. The conversation underscores the need to recognize and embrace diversity, both in our local communities and in our global perspective. ----

In this episode, host Dan Hummel, sits down with Vincent Bacote, Professor of Theology and Director of Wheaton College's Center for Applied Christian Ethics in Wheaton, Illinois. Bacote is the lead for The Black Evangelical Oral History Project, a documentary film that aims to tell the story of black evangelicalism in the United States. The project originated from an event at Fuller Seminary in 2008, where the idea of capturing the history of black evangelicalism through oral interviews was conceived. The documentary features interviews with various black evangelical leaders, highlighting their experiences and perspectives within the evangelical movement. The film explores themes such as the in-between space of black evangelicalism, the challenges of racial reconciliation, and the global nature of evangelicalism. A key goal of the project is to invite more stories, fostering a sense of community and encouraging audience participation. The project aims to provide a comprehensive and nuanced understanding of black evangelicalism and its significance within the larger evangelical movement.----

In this episode, host Daniel Johnson talks with John Dyer, who holds two positions at Dallas Theological Seminary: Vice President for Enrollment and Educational Technology and an assistant professor of Theological Studies. They discuss media ecology and its impact on society, particularly on technology and the church. John explores the influence of media on our environment, history, and individual behavior. Dyer also delves into the effects of media consumption on spiritual growth and the challenges of online church. ----John Dyer's website = https://j.hn/----

What is on your summer reading list? In this episode, host Susan Smetzer-Anderson has a conversation with Byron Borger, owner of Hearts and Minds Bookstore. They discuss the importance of books and reading in shaping our imagination, empathy, and faith. Byron shares insights on the power of narratives and the impact of literature on our spiritual growth and understanding of the world. He also recommends books that offer guidance on reading thoughtfully and spiritually, emphasizing the transformative nature of literature. The conversation delves into the power of narrative, the practice of deep reading, and the impact of technology on reading habits. It also explores the themes of hospitality, vocation, and the purpose of education. ----Order your books through the Hearts and Minds bookstore = https://www.heartsandmindsbooks.com----

Welcome to this special episode of The UpWords podcast! In today's episode, we will relive some of the moments from our events and podcasts and answer the question of what it means to be a good neighbor.Journey with me as we relive the moments that shaped our semester of ministry and discuss what it means to Love your neighbor as yourself. This is one of Jesus's most well-known teachings. But it begs the question, who is my neighbor? ----List of the podcasts and events in order of appearance (audio and video links): From Orphanage to Family: A Vision for Child Welfare | Julie Bolos

In this episode, host Susan Smetzer-Anderson has a conversation with author Rachel Pieh Jones. writes about life at the crossroads of faith and culture. Her work is influenced by living as a foreigner in the Horn of Africa, raising three Third Culture Kids, and adventurous exploration of the natural world. She has written for the New York Times, Runners World, Deadspin, the Big Roundtable, and more. Learn more at www.djiboutijones.com. ----Pillars: How Muslim Friends Led Me Closer to Jesus

In this episode, host Dan Hummel, sits down with Nadya Williams. She has spent 15 years teaching Classics and Ancient History at secular state universities before walking away in summer 2023. She is the author of Cultural Christians in the Early Church (Zondervan Academic, 2023) and Mothers, Children, and the Body Politic: Ancient Christianity and the Recovery of Human Dignity (under contract, IVP Academic). She is a Book Review Editor at Current, where she also edits The Arena  blog. We explore the third-century Christian persecutions, the explosive growth of Christianity, and its profound impact on Roman society. Nadya sheds light on the intersection of ancient traditions and the challenges modern Christians face, showing us the timeless struggle with cultural sins.----Learn more about Nadya's book: https://a.co/d/hHHO768 ----View this podcast on YouTube: https://youtu.be/VwUoA1yTrNs

In this episode, host Daniel Johnson sits down with Ross Chapman (Denver Institute for Faith and Work) and Ryan Tafilowski (Denver Seminary) to discuss their new book, Faithful Work: In the Daily Grind with God and for Others. Ross and Ryan show how work is a way to love God, serve our neighbors, and demonstrate the gospel. With a broader understanding of God's work in the world, we are able to engage our daily work as part of how God makes all things new. Chapters:03:31 Book emphasizes living as a Christian worker.09:16 Recruited by the local business owner, developed a love for the city.11:58 Felt compelled to navigate faith and work.13:41 Faith at work movement reacts against evangelicalism.16:54 Favorable chapter discusses two vs four-part gospel.20:05 Church mission: conversion and participation in transformation.24:26 Christians can bring redemption beyond sharing faith.29:19 Finding purpose in Christian calling beyond career.31:57 Values of work and vocation: God in us.34:10 Daily tasks provide an invitation to God's love.38:42 Finding rest and delight in work life.41:20 Mutual intimidation, humble collaboration, and the ecosystem.45:59 "Workplace diversity crucial for collaboration and understanding."47:27 COVID revealed a reevaluation of the relationship to work.49:58 Expresses gratitude for the invitation.

Our host, Dan Hummel, raises the conversation on faith, pop culture, and storytelling in our modern world and media. In this episode, they explore the relationship between Christianity and pop culture with our honored guest, John Anthony Dunne, associate professor of Biblical and Theological Studies at Bethel University and a thought leader on integrating theology with pop culture narratives. John offers a unique take on how Christians should navigate the vast expanse of media, ranging from Hollywood to horror and everything in between. ===========

In this episode, our host, Susan Smetzer-Anderson, speaks with Aaron White, a pastor from Vancouver's Downtown Eastside, about the transformative potential of true kinship and the profound possibilities of living out the Beatitudes and connecting with the marginalized. Aaron relentlessly advocates for building relationships across boundaries (such as economics) that often keep people in silos—dislocated and disconnected. But building genuine relationships can be a game-changer in the lives of individuals and communities. Please tune in to this vital conversation and join us in relearning the power of genuine connection and honest hospitality. You can also glean more of Aaron's insights through tuning into his tcaptalk at the 2024 Kingdom Justice Summit.=======Links:=======⛪️ Aaron's work = https://www.missioncentral.ca/profile/aaron-white

In this episode of The UpWords Podcast, host Daniel Johnson, has an engaging conversation with Jim Stump, Vice President of Programs at BioLogos. They discuss the importance of bridging the gap between science and faith, and how churches can engage with science to prevent conflicts that drive youth away. Don't miss their insightful conversation on technology's impact on relationships and the importance of gracious dialogue. We explore the themes of Jim's new book, The Sacred Chain: How Understanding Evolutions Leads to Deeper Faith (HarperOne 2024). Plus, they delve into topics like creation care, justice issues, and the balance between scientific evidence and religious beliefs. ----

This episode of The UpWords Podcast brings insightful perspectives on faith, society, and history to light. In today's episode, host Dan Hummel engages in a thoughtful conversation with distinguished professor Janine Giordano Drake, Clinical Assistant Professor in the Department of History at Indiana University.We dive deep into the roots of American Christianity's engagement with social and labor issues. Janine brings her expertise in US labor, working-class history, and American religious history to explore the complex interplay between faith and the fight for social justice in the early 20th century.We'll uncover the surprising cohesion between Roman Catholics, the social gospel movement, and Protestants as they navigated the intersections of Christianity with capitalism, advocating for unions, fair wages, and the end of child labor. Our journey includes a look into the past with the socialist ideals thriving in working-class churches, challenging the mainstream Protestant denominates, and shifting the landscape of labor movements.Our discussion takes a turn towards the impact of such dynamics during the tumultuous era of World War I and the Great Steel Strike of 1919, drawing parallels that resonate with social movements a century later. As we peel back the layers of history, Janine not only educates us on the conservative stance of the social gospel compared to the grassroots movements of the time but also reflects on the contemporary Christian community's engagement with similar debates.So, whether you're a history buff, a seeker of spiritual depth, or someone interested in the social threads that knit our society together, this episode promises insights and revelations. We explore the tangible effects of historical conflicts on today's faith and labor conversations and consider whether we can still see the imprint of these early 20th-century struggles in our present day.Join us as we journey through time with Janine Giordano Drake, unraveling the story of how the social gospel moved beyond church walls and into the world of labor and social reform. Check out Janine Giordano Drake's book, The Gospel of Church: How Mainline Protestants Vilified Christian Socialism and Fractured the Labor Movement = https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-gospel-of-church-9780197614303?cc=us&lang=en&

In this episode, corporate chaplain Steve Cook shares how his experiences with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship and as an executive pastor culminated in the founding of Capital Chaplains in 2005. His commitment to serving others has taken him across the country, influencing numerous lives through personal connection and support in difficult times. Steve is currently the President of Workplace Chaplaincy Foundation Inc. and Executive Director of Operations at Marketplace Chaplains. Steve Cook discusses the transformative power of workplace chaplains. He highlights how these on-site support systems can stabilize and uplift an organization's employee base. With 40 years of experience, Steve has proven that fostering trust and personal care in the workplace isn't just good ethics, it's good business – reducing turnover, enhancing performance, and instilling hope in these challenging times. If you're looking for a way to infuse compassion into your corporate culture and be a Good Samaritan in your employees' lives, this episode is a treasure trove. Discover how you can bring positive change to your team and your bottom line. As we navigate these heartfelt stories of transformation and the subtle art of giving and receiving care in the corporate environment, Steve's dedication shines a light on the power of being a 'good neighbor' at work. So tune in as we explore the intersection of faith, empathy, and corporate responsibility on the UpWords Podcast.----Link to the St. Martin of Tours story (see page 5): http://www.preciousheart.net/chaplaincy/Chaplain-Etymology.pdf ---Principles for Chaplains, “good Samaritans,” and “good neighbors” to follow:1. Bath in prayer2. Be available3. Do some life together4. Be patient and be faithful5. Wait to be invited in6. Rely on the Holy Spirit7. Watch God at work!

In this powerful episode with Julie Bolos, we dove deep into the heart of caring for vulnerable children. Julie shared her invaluable experience from New Hope Peru to the Christian Alliance for Orphans, highlighting the urgent need for family-based care over institutional settings. We discussed the profound impact of trauma on a child's development and the importance of personal connection and individualized care. Our heartfelt conversation also touched on the transformative role of community and church support in building robust family environments for these children. It's clear that together, we can foster a world where every child finds the love and nurturing they need to thrive. Thank you for joining us on this journey to make a difference in the lives of the most vulnerable. Julie Bolos is a compassionate advocate for the welfare of children in care systems. Her insights into the dynamics between paid caregivers and the children they look after have cemented her reputation as a keen observer and an empathetic voice for the voiceless. Julie understands the delicate emotional balance required in these relationships, recognizing the children's acute awareness of the transactional nature of professional caregiving.Throughout her career, Julie has unwaveringly pointed out the psychological impact on children who learn to suppress their emotions and negative behaviors to meet the expectations of a system that often rewards compliance over genuine well-being. She passionately argues that every child's needs are unique and require tailored solutions that acknowledge their individuality. Bolos's advocacy work emphasizes the creation of environments where children feel genuinely cared for and allowed to express themselves fully rather than merely adapting to the implicit norms of institutionalized care.Julie's mission is propelled by a deep understanding of the emotional complexities involved in care systems, and she tirelessly works towards reforms that prioritize each child's individual needs, advocating for a world where their emotional health and personal growth are placed at the forefront of caregiving practices.----LinksChristian Alliance for Orphans = https://cafo.org/New Hope Peru = https://donate.newhopeperu.org

Today, we're embarking on a fascinating journey through time, text, and technology with our guest, Brent Seales, is the Gill Professor and Chair of the Computer Science Department at the University of Kentucky, as well as Principal Investigator for the Digital Restoration Initiative, funded in part by a major grant from the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation.Brent, a visionary in the intersecting worlds of computer science and digital imaging, will take us through the transformative power of digitizing historical texts. Together, we'll delve into the seismic shifts in teaching and career paths brought on by the pervasive reach of computer science into every conceivable field.Yet, as we embrace the advancements of the digital age, Brent doesn't shy away from addressing its darker side—particularly the tangible consequences that rapid tech adoption can have on society's younger generation via social media's expansive influence.We explore Brent's unique trajectory from a music student to a luminary in computer science—a journey shaped by the orchestral strands of a music teacher's advice and the reverberating chords of curiosity and faith. We'll uncover how his work at the University of Kentucky intersects with unlocking the secrets of ancient artifacts and contributes to our collective understanding of cultural heritage.From discussions on AI's ethical quandaries to the evocative narratives of science fiction that mirror our technological quests, Brent's insights promise to both challenge and inspire.So tune in as we unravel the threads of Brent Seales' story—a tapestry woven from the codes of the past and the pixels of the future—right here on the UpWords podcast.

In this engaging conversation, Scott challenges us to think about our obsession with the afterlife and invites us to trust in grace, as matters of birth, death, and rebirth are beyond our control. We'll uncover the richness of Jesus's narrative, exploring how the Christmas season isn't just about the commerce that clamors for our attention, but a time to ponder the profound meaning of Jesus's birth.Scott shares insights from his art, which strays from the trodden path of traditional Christmas illustrations while reflecting on the deeply spiritual encounter with the biological miracle of childbirth. Through his work, Scott seeks to bridge the distance between our societal aversion to vulnerability and the need to embrace our tender hearts for deep understanding.Together, we'll unpack why Jesus's embodiment as a human requires us not only to reflect but also to engage physically through practices like pilgrimage. Scott's transformative art and stories urge us to consider Jesus's incarnation not just as a historical event, but as an ever-present reality. And as Scott will reveal, our journey with Christ also means apprenticeship to our own mortality.----View this episode on YouTube = https://youtu.be/OuDt1bvm_oA----Scott Erickson is an artist, author, performance speaker, and creative curator who mixes autobiography, mythology, and aesthetics to create art and moments that speak to our most profound experiences.Using his passion and commitment to craft, Scott has been a working artist for over a decade and has had his work appear on CNN, National Geographic, and various magazines, newspaper outlets, and book covers.He is the co-author of Prayer: Forty Days of Practice and May It Be So, the author of Honest Advent and Say Yes.

In this episode, Susan has a conversation with Marjorie Thompson, ordained minister of the Presbyterian Church USA and former research fellow at Yale Divinity School, where she worked with Henry Nowan. According to estimates from the National Alliance for Caregiving, 65.7 million Americans (or 29% of the adult U.S. adult population) served as caregivers during the past year. Marjorie's wisdom and insights go beyond those who are caregivers. Marjorie Thompson has charted an unconventional path within her career, guided not by the traditional role of parish ministry but by a profound calling toward retreat work, teaching, and writing in the field of spiritual formation. Her journey commenced in Connecticut, where she initially served in a parish for four years, an experience that no doubt laid important groundwork for her later endeavors.Seeking a deeper, more personal vocation, Marjorie and her husband bid farewell to his Connecticut roots, setting a new course for Nashville. It was here that Marjorie truly began carving out her niche, focusing on the transformative aspects of retreats and education in spirituality. She credits much of her insight into spiritual formation to the influential mentorship of Henry Nowan, who played a pivotal role in shaping her perspective and approach in this domain.Marjorie's story is one of listening to her inner voice and having the courage to pursue her true calling, resulting in a ministry of a different kind—a testament to the varied and personal journeys that those called to serve may take.Send your questions and feedback to Podcast@slbrownfoundation.org. ---00:00 "Caregiver conversation with Marjorie Thompson, ordained minister"06:18 Mother and stepdad needed care; building new home.09:53 Physical challenges of caregiving for elderly and disabled.11:25 Grateful for shared strength in caregiving challenges.14:40 Feeling divine strength in moments of need.18:22 Calmly explaining fire after her misinterpretation.21:58 Caring for husband with Parkinson's, finding appreciation.24:37 Appreciation, care, and recognition in changing relationships.28:56 Beautiful story inspires empathy and self-reflection.31:44 Caring and compassion: entering into others' suffering.36:47 Deacons support community for disabled man.40:18 Insight into parents dealing with medical issues.41:20 Finding strength through caregiving in difficult times.46:35 Carry God's presence, bless and love others.48:39 Grounding through touch, breath, and simple actions.54:36 Admit needs, be there, ask for help.56:01 Grateful for support and caregiving resources available.

Today, we're thrilled to have esteemed guest J. Richard Middleton. We dive into an engaging exploration of the Biblical stories of Abraham and Isaac. We'll delve into the complexities of silence in these narratives, question the traditional interpretations of obedience and love for God, and look at the intergenerational effects on Jacob's family. In this episode, we'll carefully untangle the controversial aspects of Abraham's sacrifice and the consequences of his decisions. We will also discuss the concept of a 'happily-ever-after,' hinting at the tragic aftermath of these iconic narratives. Exploring the practical methodology of lamentation in Biblical texts and the role of expressing one's grief and suffering, we'll identify how we can learn from these Biblical figures' lives and experiences. Finally, let's venture into a discussion on the silence of God in the Bible, its implication in our relationships, and how it impacts our sense of faith.J. Richard Middleton is a professor of Biblical Worldview and Exegesis at Northeastern Seminary and an adjunct professor of Theology at Roberts Wesleyan College, both in Rochester, New York. He is widely published in religious journals and is the author of four books, including Abraham's Silence: The Binding of Isaac, the Suffering of Job, and How to Talk Back to God, and A New Heaven and a New Earth: Reclaiming Biblical Eschatology.---00:00 Struggle with silence brings unexpected amusement.07:28 Father and son head to sacrifice, and the angel intervenes.14:02 Abraham's faith was tested, and love for his son was questioned.19:24 Abraham believes God will provide sacrifice.25:35 Abraham's journey from paganism to faith.29:55 Abraham fails the test, new test: son sacrificed.36:23 Servant finds wife, Isaac deceived, blessings given.40:07 Genesis 18's misunderstood invitation leads to change.48:17 Psalm 32: acknowledgment of sin, physical waste.52:00 Various lament psalms serve as confessions of sin in our church.56:02 Silence toward God affects life's moral implications.01:02:35 Why harm him? Is your promise forgotten?01:04:54 God affirms servant, desires mercy and knowledge.

In this episode, we navigated the tension-filled landscape of politics and faith, discussing the church's role and its interaction with government while maintaining the principle of collective good. Ron Sanders, is an Affiliate Assistant Professor of Christian Ethics at Fuller Theological Seminary. His field of research is the intersection of religion and public policy—especially the relationship between the Christian Tradition and the Democratic Tradition in America. Ron provided some crucial insights on nonpartisan participation, the role of our educational institutions, and how to approach politics as Christians. He also shared some remarkable facts about his journey to understanding Christianity's place in politics. Listen now to dissect the prophetic politics of faith, only on The UpWords podcast.As always we invite you to leave us a rating on your favorite podcast app or send us a comment at podcast@slbrownfoundation.org.---00:00:38 Intro00:05:24 Israel is a light to other nations.00:06:54 God's covenant, church's global witness, Christianity and democracy.00:10:54 Christians seeking prophetic distance from political parties.00:15:31 Community collaboration to address societal challenges effectively.00:17:58 Church involvement in politics for informed decision-making.00:21:18 Lack of nonpartisan participation in politics explained.00:27:45 Gen Z, takes an active and informed role in politics.00:31:22 University officials help students navigate societal issues.Credits: Music by The David Roy Collective, audio engineering by Jesse Koopman, graphic design by Madeline Ramsey.

We welcome visual artist Marianne Lettieri to the podcast to share her passion for taking old or broken things and transforming them into beautiful works of art. She holds an MFA in Spatial Arts from San Jose State University and a BFA in Drawing and Printmaking from the University of Florida. Numerous books and art journals have featured her work, including Placemaking and the Arts by Jennifer Allen Craft.We hosted Marianne here at Upper House on October 21st for a lecture and collage workshop where she shared more about her heart for taking old things and making them beautiful. Please subscribe to our YouTube channel @UpperHouseUW to see this video when it drops, as well as many others you may enjoy. As always we invite you to leave us a rating on your favorite podcast app or send us a comment at podcast@slbrownfoundation.org.Credits: Music by The David Roy Collective, audio engineering by Jesse Koopman, graphic design by Madeline Ramsey.