Meet the adventurous, accomplished women who are redefining conservation through their lives in the field and on the water. Filled with humor, audacity, empathy, and intelligence, Artemis brings you new voices from our public lands. Whether you're snagging flies or tracking big bucks, Artemis introd…
Long-time Artemis guest (and co-founder) Jess Johnson returns to the podcast this week after a trip to the International Council for Game and Wildlife Conservation's annual meeting in Budapest, Hungary. On her way back to Wyoming, Jess got the chance to stop in Scotland for several days to hunt red deer and roe deer. She shares that experience with us, plus what it's like to bump heads with hunters and conservationists from across the world. 3:00 International Council for Game and Wildlife Conservation - aka "the CIC," which aims to preserve wild game and hunting across the world 6:00 Wolf perceptions worldwide 11:00 The rural-urban divide over predators 12:00 World Hunting Expo - an event that only happens every 50 years 17:00 Hungary's red stags in rut... it was a moving show for the world's sporting and wildlife advocates 21:00 Learning wildlife management models from neighbors abroad 28:00 The CIC has its own version of Artemis... and it's also called Artemis #twinningandwinning 29:00 And CIC's forthcoming cookbook featuring game recipes from around the world 33:00 The relationships/dialogue that comes from events like CIC are the real bounty 34:00 Modern Huntsman magazine & Into the Wilderness with Byron Pace podcast episode with Linzi Seivwright 35:00 Hunting Scotland's red deer and the rural-urban divide issue there; plus, values of the land-owners versus the public at large 42:00 Hunting with someone who's mastered being a predator on their own landscape 43:00 Hunting in tweed 45:00 Red stags "roar," they don't bugle 47:00 "We don't take long shots here... let's wait and get him in as close as we can." 49:00 You can buy red stag meat in Scotland's grocery stores, which means hunters can sell their bounty to butchers if they choose to 50:00 Sika deer - they sound like an elk bugle on helium 53:00 If someone wipes stag blood on your face, don't freak... it's a Scottish tradition called blooding 55:00 Scotland's roe deer 57:00 A landscape where humans are the only predator, and the ongoing discussion of whether you re-introduce eradicated predators 1:04 Converting other hunters to the cult of Those Who Eat Heart Meat 1:12 In lieu of agency-issued tags, hunting deer in Scotland is regulated by landowners, usually a partnership between the landowner and whomever leases the property for hunting 1:17 The U.K. (as yet) has no cases of CWD 1:22 NWF Outdoor Division's new climate report: A Hunter's and Angler's Guide to Climate Change
Lori Monday was raising three kids, going to school, and struggling to find herself when she had a life-changing encounter with a snake. It led her down a path chock full of reptiles. As an education ambassador for the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission, Lori literally keeps a menagerie of reptiles and amphibians as a part of her job. Listen to find out what it means when someone says, "Hey... wanna go herping?" 1:30 "Herping" - to wander about and look for reptiles and amphibians 3:00 Freezer situation: frozen mice of all sizes, ya'll #portraitofasnakeowner 4:00 Authentic tacos. Find out more at our Artemis Podcast FB Group 7:00 Goose tacos. A new addition to your taco repertoire. 10:00 When someone asks, "Wanna go herping?" ...and that first snake encounter. "It was the most beautiful, gentle thing." 14:00 Getting into hunting/archery through a game and fish department, but also just by showing up 17:00 Deer lease 101 (effort + investment) 24:00 Herping isn't just about reptiles/amphibians... you'll see spider eyes catch the light, opossums, armadillos... all kinds of life at dawn or dusk 27:00 Project Wild from the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission 28:00 Lori's teaching menagerie (which lives in her bedroom at home) 29:00 "Hey, I gotta call you back... my alligator is trying to eat my turtle." 35:00 Seeing the world at night can open your eyes... plus, experiencing the natural world up close for the first time 38:00 Snake phobias + the mind-changing experience of a herping ed trip 42:00 The first time in a deer stand isn't entirely intuitive 45:00 Taking your kids hunting as an adult-onset hunter 48:00 Harvesting your first deer as your teenage son cheers you on #heartexplosion 52:00 Women's Outdoor Retreat hosted by the South Carolina Wildlife Federation
Traditional bowhunter Beka Garris joins Artemis this week to talk about what it's like bowhunting with a baby. Yes... literally WITH a small child. Beka tells us about harvesting two deer (and a squirrel) alongside her daughter. She also talks about traditional bowhunting, the skills involved, and how your experience in the outdoors changes when you have a little one in tow. This week's episode is brought to you by Isle Royale Outfitters, a women-specific hunting and apparel company. Check them out online, and use code Artemis20 for a 20% discount at check-out. 2:00 Tiny human podcast crashers... #momlife 3:00 The switch from bowhunting to traditional bowhunting... the trad bow range is more like
When the pandemic hit, Bre Bashford returned to her home state of Colorado from Georgia, where she works as an R3 coordinator for the Georgia Wildlife Federation. She hunted elk and antelope, and she tells us what it was like to build up to those successful hunts after growing up in suburbia. For Bre, the journey started with a strong ethos about food, a generous mentor, and being willing to figure out what you don't know. Plus... what's it like when a group of vegans asks you to speak on the ethics of eating meat? 3:00 A pandemic-triggered change in geography 4:00 "Each year I have a goal to try something new... or to experience a new species, or a new technique." 5:00 Growing up in suburbia and learning your mountain literacy on the weekends 8:00 On knowing your food 12:00 R3 = the recruitment, retention, and reactivation of hunters, anglers and shooting-sport participants 13:00 When a pro-vegan crowd asks you to talk about the ethics of eating meat... #yowzers 15:00 Guns as weapons vs. guns as tools 18:00 Hunting is about more than meat... it's about the role humans play in the ecosystem 21:00 The power of a mentor to shepherd someone into hunting... squirrels to turkey to deer 23:00 "We all have something to give, and we all have something to learn." 27:00 Academics Afield & learning global perspectives on hunting 29:00 Are there benefits to people who interact with wildlife? 31:00 Why hunting gets to us: We're in the moment, our senses are elevated... "Lose your mind, find your soul." 33:00 Hunting pronghorn... their eyesight is superb 34:00 Kneepads can help you crawl/stalk through cacti... also, army-crawling with your rifle is worth practicing 37:00 Pronghorn evolved alongside very formidable predators 41:00 Colorado Parks and Wildlife's "Elk Hunting University" program 43:00 Elk hunting: doing the prep, finding your spot, then arriving to see a bunch of other hunters... and eventually teaming up with two to plan a day's hunt 45:00 Being married to a non-hunter has a few perks... hello, truck shuttle 54:00 Montana antelope hunting - trying for a new, harder-to-draw area... and getting four tags with your friends 56:00 Scouting a completely new area 59:00 Georgia Wildlife Federation
Kyley Caldwell and her husband run a bird dog breeding and training facility in central North Carolina. Kyley tells us about how she got into dogs, and what it's like to do dog trials through The North American Versatile Hunting Dog Association. We talk dog breeds, hardness tests, blind retrieves, and more. Upland game season is here, everyone! 2:30 When your freezer unexpectedly kicks it #facepalm 5:30 Rusty Guns Kennel (link) - a dog breeding and training facility in North Carolina 6:00 Meeting your husband by way of a dog 10:00 "We're here today because I'm getting you a puppy." #bestsurprise ... "but don't pick the first one that licks you." #puppycurmudgeon 11:00 AKC events... "dog show people" versus "gun dog people" 12:00 NAVDA (link) - North American Versatile Hunting Dog Association 17:00 Flushing vs. retrieving vs. pointing breeds 18:00 Quail/pheasants aren't as plentiful as they used to be in the Carolinas 20:00 Owning/managing a dog-training business with your husband 22:00 Training 10 dogs a month while still having full-time jobs; Growing the kennel to have kennel help and other trainers on staff 23:00 A life in the day of a dog trainer 25:00 Dogs sometimes stay with the trainer as long as six months 27:30 "A hardness test"... it's a prerequisite for some dogs before they can be breed eligible through their respective associations; a dog has to dispatch a fox or a raccoon 32:00 Dog trials + what to expect 36:00 The 100-yard blind retrieve... it's a feat of dog-handling 42:00 That moment you see a young dog just GET IT 43:00 "DK" in gun-dog speak is a Deutsch Kurzhaar, it's a slightly different breed than a German Short-Haired Pointer (which is a "GSP" in dog-speak) 45:00 The biggest dilemma for hunting vacations: "Which dogs are we bringing, and how many?" 49:00 Tracking a tricky bird (and getting it) 50:00 Check out a podcast Kyley hosts once a month, "Gun Dog It Yourself" (link) - a podcast for aspiring dog owners to train their dogs themselves; GDIY is also on Facebook (link) and Instagram (link) 54:00 Find Kyley on Facebook (link), Instagram (link) and RustyGunsKennel.com (link)
Sarah Tingey is one of the brains behind a small packrafting company called Alpacka Raft. It started as a basement type of operation, fueled by adventures in the Far North, including time spent in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Sarah tells us about her experiences on that incomparable landscape, plus what it's like to travel there with a small child (on a 10-day packrafting trip, of course). Taking kids into the backcountry isn't all puppies and unicorns, but it can be hugely rewarding when we do make the effort. 4:00 Career life at a small outdoor products company like Aplacka Rafts (you're a jill of all trades) 6:30 Packrafts - they started as a means for water travel in the deep backcountry, like -- say -- a 700-mile trip across Alaska's Brooks Range 9:00 From a basement sewing machine operation to a company that employs 45 people 10:00 "Design by Sheri" - a staple of the Warren Miller ski days, also what would be the skill base for a packraft company 14:00 Sheep hunting; New Mexico elk hunting 21:00 Visiting the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) and suddenly feeling like all those discussions about oil development weren't very abstract anymore 25:00 Check out a map of where ANWR is 26:00 Efforts to conserve ANWR predate Alaska's statehood 28:00 Would you rather visit a place called a 'petroleum reserve' or a 'wildlife refuge'? 30:00 Taking a BABY rafting on a 10-day trip in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (flash floods, weather delays, hustle hustle hustle) 33:00 Risk judgement when conditions change (leave the stress out of it) 36:00 Carrying a baby in the backcountry; hunting with a baby (or not) 42:00 Growing up in a hunting family, but not ever going along 43:00 Sharing the burden of all the extra energy that goes along with taking a kid outside 47:00 Taking kids into the wild isn't all unicorns and ponies 51:00 Catch the Emily Ledergerber episode on Hunting While Pregnant 53:00 An 185-mile overland trip over several drainages in Alaska, and getting to see a pristine salmon run 56:00 "The 'potted plant' phase [of babyhood]... soak it up."
Hunter, angler and conservationist Bianca McGrath-Martinez first drank the volunteerism Kool-Aid when she was serving with AmeriCorps. Today, her professional life (with MANY volunteer hours across different groups) is spent working towards an inclusive conservation movement with a program called Hispanics Enjoying Camping, Hunting, and the Outdoors. 2:00 HECHO; Latino Outdoors Colorado 5:00 Growing up with a negative perception of hunting, and then the slow process of changing your mind as an adult 8:00 How you become comfortable with something that your family has traditionally been very cautious about, like firearms 13:00 Fly-fishing... can open the gate to other sporting disciplines 16:00 The backstory of the American conservation movement, it can sound rosy and peachy -- but there's also racism, censure, and genocide there, too 17:00 Hispanics Enjoying Camping, Hunting, and the Outdoors - a policy-driven group that advocates for the conservation of wild lands in the Southwest 20:00 Parks podcast, Ashley's recommendation on a frank history of National Parks 23:00 Why it's important to re-teach ourselves American history through a historically accurate lens 28:00 The importance of bringing conservation (and sporting) to elected officials and other leaders 30:00 Find HECHO on Facebook, Instagram, and via their online newsletter 31:00 Cocktails and Conservation event in Utah in October. Keep track of HECHO events here. 32:00 Translating hunting/fishing regulations into Spanish 37:00 Bianca on the Your Mountain podcast, a great listen 38:00 Volunteerism accomplishes SO MUCH in the outdoors space. Check out Latino Outdoors' Yo Cuento blog, the group's job board, etc 43:00 Women's Wilderness (and their Trailblazers program) 45:00 "I did AmeriCorps... and I think I just sort of drank the Kool-Aid when it comes to volunteerism." 50:00 Tarpon fishing! Large, ancient, big-fighting fish 54:00 Colorado Parks and Wildlife's Ranching for Wildlife program -- an access program for new hunters on private lands 1:02 An upcoming Artemis episode... bowhunting with a baby or a toddler (yes... hunting WITH a baby/toddler, like, on your back)
Tia Shoemaker is a second-generation Alaskan who grew up at her family's remote hunting and fishing lodge in the Becharof National Wildlife Refuge. You might remember her from Artemis's episode on Traverse Mag, but today Tia comes to us from the NWF Outdoors podcast, where she talks about what it's like to see climate change on the front lines. The changes are very real, and alarming. Even Shoemaker's long-time fishing clients are noticing.
Texas hunter Hannah Marcom took up hunting with a bow before she ever reached for a firearm. She tells us about that journey in addition to the public-facing work she does in the hunting industry through her Instagram page, @Hannah.The.Plus.Size.Hunter. We talk about choosing gear for function over aesthetics, sweaty sports bras, and garden bounty galore. Plus, when you're from Texas and you tell someone you have "ground hog" in your freezer... sometimes they mistakenly think you mean groundhogs. 4:00 Texas wild hogs! Or "pigs" in Texas-speak... perennial freezer-fodder in the Lone Star State 6:00 "No matter what hunt I'm on... if I see a pig, it becomes a pig hunt." It's an invasive/abundant species 10:00 Two adult-onset hunters venture into bow-hunting 15:00 Even on non-harvest days in the field... you have the best seat for nature-watching. Plus, working up to your first harvest, step-by-step 18:00 What nudges some of us toward bows over guns? 22:00 Using the red light option on your headlamp heading to the tree stand (and sometimes finding an unexpected set of eyeballs in that light... AH!) 24:00 Ladies, totally ok to have a little cry in the treestand. That wasn't a chupacabra! (Right?) 25:00 Doing the observing vs. being the one who's observable 27:00 Find Hannah on Insta @hannah.the.plus.size.hunter and YouTube Hannah Marcom - there is so much good story and deep thought here 30:00 Realizing you need some camo and having a hard time finding something that fits #imnottheonlyone 34:00 "If you can't try it on, seeing it on someone else's body is the next best thing." 42:00 Sports bras! Check out Hannah's take on this Best Sports Bras... "I have been on a sports bra journey." 46:00 Padding? Zipper? Clasp? Razorback? 48:00 SheFit 50:00 Wool-blend bras for the sweaty hike followed by the cold sit at your hunting spot 59:00 McCall WildFest - Aug. 18 1:04 That expression "the bee's knees" ... it's about pollen pants!
The hunting landscape is about 89% male and 97% white. Although there are a number of recruitment/retention groups out there to add to the ranks, we talk about why we need groups for specific demographics -- like Artemis for women, or Hunters of Color for the BIPOC community. Lydia Parker joins us from Hunters of Color to talk about the group's mission -- how they aim to reach out to hunters of color and say, "Yes.. you. This table was made for YOU. Join us." 1:00 What someone names their chickens tells you a lot about them 3:30 Hunters of Color: HuntersOfColor.org, on Insta @huntersofcolor, FB - Hunters of Color 5:30 What being a play-by-play baseball commentator teaches you about the hunting scene (and what it's like when sports broadcasting runs in the family) 10:00 Becoming comfortable with firearms as an adult 14:00 How can you tactfully introduce sporting culture to communities traumatized by gun violence? 15:00 Reframing: Firearms as weapons vs. firearms as tools 16:00 Hunting demographics: about 89% male, 97% white 18:00 Empathy and education first 20:00 How do groups like Hunters of Color go from idea to fully-fleshed organization? Plus, the early stereotypes that got the ball rolling 23:00 "Is Hunting Too White" by Patrick Durkin 25:00 Community-building & recruiting ambassadors 30:00 There are so many groups/events/organizations that help recruit new hunters... everyone is welcome! So why do we NEED specific groups like Artemis/Hunters of Color? Hunters of Color FAQ 35:00 Author Angela Davis and thoughts on oppression/privilege/inclusivity 36:00 "Everyone can be a better ally to someone else." 40:00 "Generational wealth" also refers to things like family knowledge and culture 42:00 What's the responsibility that comes with owning/knowing your own privilege? 45:00 "Hunting and Fishing in the New South" by Scott Giltner - a book that looks into Black hunters pre- and post-slavery, exclusionary hunting laws, land ownership then and now, and more 54:00 There's value in having the hard/uncomfortable conversations 55:00 Mentor application on HOC website; And become a Member 58:00 Want to make a difference? Volunteer volunteer volunteer 59:00 Catch Hunters of Color co-founder Jimmy Flatt on NWF Outdoors: Breaking Down Barriers to Entering Hunting 1:02 Those hunts where you suffer? Sometimes they're the most memorable. Fern pollen to the face! 1:06 Sometimes the fish throw you a bone! Catching one as you're preoccupied elsewhere 1:08 Portugal. The Man 1:10 Artemis Fly Fishing Tactics... that's a wrap! What should we cover next? Send us a note: firstname.lastname@example.org. And as always, join our Artemis Podcast Facebook group to continue the conversation Other groups for your radar: Brown Folks Fishing, Outdoor Afro, Queers and Camo , LGBTQ Outdoors
Melody Engle is the captain of the U.S. Women's Spearfishing team, which is headed to Sardinia next month for the Spearfishing World Championships. She tells us what it's like to condition for World's, how to master your mind as a freediver, and how her own headgame was influenced by a background in competitive figure skating and skydiving. Plus -- targeting fish, stone shots, and the ecology of the marine ecosystems we depend on. 3:00 The best tasting fish is a fresh fish 5:30 Speara - woman who spearfishes 8:00 A typical spearfishing outing; Determining 'drop' location based on quarry 10:00 Where to aim on a fish... a "stone shot" 11:00 Distance from fish when you shoot + you ARE the reel... you have to swim the fish to the surface 12:00 The quality of your shot can influence how quickly sharks pick up on that animal's demise 13:00 A good spearfishing friend fends off a shark (!) while you get your fish to the surface 15:00 Diving for a Cause + Ted Harty's freediving course 19:00 Getting into freediving in your 50s (with a background in figure skating and skydiving) 21:00 Being captain of the U.S. Women's Spearfishing team 24:00 U.S. Women's Spearfishing Team headed to World's in Italy in September: World Spearfishing Championship 2021; Plus, if you have any to spare, their GoFundMe page is still active. (Plus... it's a WINNING team!) 26:00 The U.S. Women's Spearfishing Team is relatively new compared to teams in other countries. Follow them on Insta @usa_spearfishing_womens_team and Facebook @USAWomensSpearfishingTeam 27:00 How team members are selected 27:30 U.S. Women's Spearfishing Alliance - conservation & camaraderie 33:00 Shooting a 68-pound yellowfin tuna in Costa Rica 37:00 Decline in Florida hogfish in the past couple years 38:00 Reef-safe sunscreens (like Stream2Sea) 43:00 A high-level competition mindset is about disciple, mastering your nerves, being present 46:00 What's the fate of the fish caught during spearfishing tournaments? Fresh fish are sacred to many 50:00 Ciguatera poisoning 55:00 Freediving + black out risk 58:00 Do you have a boat? It's an obstacle to entry for many
Kelsea Albert is on the U.S. Women's Spearfishing Team, which heads to Sardinia next month for the World Championships. This week on Artemis, she tells us how she got into the sport (it started with a freediving course), and how others can tap into the wonders of the ocean's bounty. 1:00 Did you catch Brianne Lauro on Artemis this winter? Diving for Tako and the Value of Community Knowledge. 2:30 Ain't no bettah' fish than raw fish 6:00 Spearfishing for meaningful subsistence during school 7:00 To harvest it helps to really get to know the species 9:00 Want to get into spearfishing? Start with freediving (there's classes for this stuff, everyone!) 11:00 The hardest fish to wrangle underwater? Basically, anything with red meat... that fish is athletic 13:00 Taking a scientist's methodic approach to learning a new skill 17:00 Spearfishing myth busting: You don't need a boat to be able to go. A kayak works. So does a jetski. 20:00 The wonderful solitude of a sunlit kelp bed... plus, the SOUND of fish 23:00 Tips for hunting sea bass 26:00 It's not about what you harvest, or what you take 27:00 Are some things too special for social media? (Or, do we protect what we love by NOT sharing it publicly?) 32:00 Spearfishing competitions 33:00 U.S. Women's Spearfishing Team headed to World's in Italy in September: World Spearfishing Championship 2021 38:00 Preparing to dive in the Mediterranean 39:00 Time underwater & cold- vs. warm-water conditioning 42:00 Shallow-water blackout 46:00 The headgame behind spearfishing (and life) 55:00 GoFundMe for women headed to the spearfishing world championship in Sardinia - https://www.gofundme.com/f/womens-team-usa-2021-spearfishing-worlds 1:00 U.S. Women's Spearfishing Team on Insta @usa_spearfishing_womens_team and Facebook @USAWomensSpearfishingTeam 1:05 Age/weight have little to do with someone's aptitude for freediving 1:14 Becoming a mentor (or "old salty mermaid" in the ocean world)... mentorship is a serious relationship. Don't ask for it lightly, and don't say 'yes' frivolously
Last time we spoke with Sharenda, we heard about how she got into shooting and reloading. This week, we get an update on where she's at in her journey being a hunter and angler. She's been dove-hunting and tying her own flies... AND, she's bringing other women along on the journey through a program called WildHERness. Becoming a hunter can feel like a long process. Sharenda breaks down her journey into simple steps, sometimes as concrete as "Next thing: buy tent." 2:00 WildHERness.org , a program to get women into sporting, @wildHERness_ on Insta and WildHERness on Facebook 4:00 Missouri's Pheasants Forever "Go Wild" program ... like a BOW program, but for women in Missouri/Kansas (September 24-26) 8:00 Imagine a weekend with arts & crafts AND reloading activities... #dreamcometrue 10:00 Girls with Guns "Upland" pants 12:00 Boots for female hunters: Danner "Wayfinder" boots, RedWing "Upland" boots, Timberland "Pros", plus... good 'ol Muck boots 13:00 Squeaky boot problems... is it the laces? The insoles? 17:00 DSG clothing line... hello, ladies! Adjustable inseams, plus-size and petite options, etc 20:00 Let's snow-boogie-board, y'all 21:00 Miss Sharenda on Artemis the first time? Add it to your listening queue 23:00 A first-time dove hunt... "those little boogers fly like bats!" #theyrequick 27:00 Hunt prep on YouTube... good idea? bad idea? 28:00 When your friends are literally your bird dogs 34:00 Coleman pop-up camping bed 36:00 Practicing your duck calling around the house can be rough on a relationship... but what if you did it every time you were at a stoplight? 37:00 Christopher Polk duck calls 41:00 Fly-tying, fly-casting... practice, practice, practice (whenever you can) 44:00 Taxidermists have a quagmire of regulatory hoops 51:00 The garage-centric chicken coop set-up 57:00 How antelope negotiate fences... it's fascinating 1:04 A keep-your-cooler-cool trick involving a wet towel 1:06 Find Artemis (and Sharenda) in our Facebook group ... Sharenda is also on Instagram @pinkshears
Emilie Cram worked for an outfitter in Wyoming -- where her jobs included packing mules, quartering elk, and pretty much anything else needed on guided hunting trips. When she took up a rifle herself, she found that even after so much time in the field, there are STILL questions it helps to be able to phone a friend for. Emilie also made good on a lifelong infatuation with Maine's seafaring culture by learning to lobster... which is fascinating. Trust us on this one! 2:00 "Hoot-owl restrictions" vary by state... some states close rivers to fishing when the river temp stays high. Others rely on anglers' judgement. 7:00 Winter scallops for year-round eating, plus berries galore 9:30 Tip for keeping turkey feathers: Freeze them so the mites don't deteriorate the feather 12:00 Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation 13:00 Learning to hunt working at a family outfitting business out West, then bringing those skills back home to the Northeast 16:00 Becoming a lobsterwoman (+ lobster-bacon salads) 19:00 A lifelong crush on the state of Maine 20:00 The regulatory climate for Maine lobstering 24:00 Bait 25:00 A wee bit of lobster ecology 28:00 No keeping the monster lobsters... "keepers" are a function of lobster size (dimensions) and gender 33:00 A rule of thumb: If you get a pound of lobster per trap (about one keeper), you're in the black on your lobstering 36:00 Notching a lobster 40:00 Going from working for an outfitter to being the one who does everything on a personal hunt 43:00 The power of being able to phone a friend when an unforeseen hunting problem arises 45:00 Hunting East vs. West... dense private lands vs. open public lands 48:00 Density of deer versus density of hunters 51:00 The nuance of asking permission to hunt on private lands... and as a landowner, sometimes having to say 'no' 53:00 NWF Outdoors podcast 59:00 Turkey eggs 1:00:00 Pasta Grannies! If you missed it last week... now's the time to catch up 1:00:02 Fly FisHer Adventures in Helena, Mont. Find Emilie on Insta @instahcram
"You get one physical vehicle for your entire life." Our bodies help us do ALL the things outside -- fishing, hunting... even moseying. Artemis Ambassador Sara Camiscioni reminds us that our daily happiness is often directly related to how we feel in our bodies. On this episode, we talk about becoming a hunter, tree stands, whether rivers are changing, and the general pursuit of a strong, functional, confident life. 2:00 Moving to a new place and feeling like you nailed it: "It's everything I've ever wanted in terms of recreation and lifestyle blended together while still being able to run my business." 3:30 Find Your Strong with Sara - a diet/exercise program for the athletic/adventurous (psst... that's us!) Plus, running a business the jives with who you are as a person 6:00 Fly-fishing as therapy 8:00 What fisher(wo)men notice about how rivers/fishing are changing in a changing climate... when did it become the norm for the season to go on hiatus for warm/low water? #newnorm? 11:00 What we look for in partners (... kind of!) 14:00 First hunt - antelope on cherished lands... plus, EMOTIONS! You feel like you can do anything... there's gratitude... there's depth. It's real out there 19:00 Randy Newberg... you need a sidekick?! 22:00 Connecting to your food 25:00 Tree stands 101 - Do you bring the coffee? Do you pee? 29:00 SheWee? #shewont 31:00 Doe pee vs human pee 34:00 Cutting a hunt short to not have to process meat or exit in the dark... it's a tough decision 40:00 In pursuit of a strong, functional, confident life 43:00 Boating body? Even out those muscles! Casting a lot? Forearm strength. You'd be amazed how surgically you use your body in the outdoors 47:00 "You have ONE body. You have ONE physical vehicle for your entire life"... "Your daily happiness is linked to your physical body." 54:00 Changing your health isn't a one-stop-shop... it takes habits and change that you can keep up for a lifetime 55:00 Find Sara on Insta @findyourstrongwithsara, OR the Find Your Strong podcast 58:00 What you learn about someone when they tell you what their chickens are named 59:00 The YouTube channel you didn't know you needed... Italian grandmas making pasta: Pasta Grannies
This week we're joined by biologist Nova Simpson, who works for the Nevada Department of Transportation to mitigate human-wildlife conflict in our travel corridors. We talk about wildlife overpasses and underpasses (even for things like snakes and toads), how those projects are funded, and whether they're effective at reducing vehicular collisions with wildlife. Plus: horses, whitefish dip, and HEAT. 4:00 "Large mammal mitigation specialist" - how can we help animals live more comfortably in our shadow? Also... state road departments have biologists on payroll! 6:00 "Road ecology": The study of how wildlife moves/adjusts to road infrastructure 7:00 Animal-vehicle collisions 12:00 There are 15-20 varieties of threatened animals for whom vehicular collision is a pretty significant source of mortality. Example: Florida panther 13:00 Roads fragment habitat. How can we restore connectivity? 14:00 (RE)CONNECTING WILD: Restoring Safe Passage Mitigation project over Nevada's I-80 on the species' migration route. Win for drivers, win for deer 18:00 Conservation priority so often comes down to available funding and time resource 19:00 Roadkill collision app in the works 20:00 Overpasses/underpasses on highways, fencing projects, bridge crossings, "animal sidewalks," etc 26:00 Only about 2% of crashes in Nevada involve wildlife 32:00 Agency vs. private funding for wildlife crossings 34:00 How do animals safely cross a highway? New York Times article on wildlife crossings (including the rattlesnake underpass) 37:00 Toad crossings 38:00 Current transportation bill in D.C. includes funding for wildlife mitigation for the first time in U.S. history 41:00 Check out the NWF Outdoors podcast wherever you get your programming 42:00 Wildlife cams... THE THINGS YOU SEE! 47:00 Anyone apply for draw tags? Not drawing in an area with 90%+ draw odds... #darnit 51:00 Training our horse pals :) 55:00 Whitefish dip
Tia Shoemaker grew up in a remote Alaskan hunting lodge. Christine Cunningham didn't come to hunting until she was an adult. Both women found they had a passion for telling authentic stories from the hunt field, and together they launched the outdoor journal, "Traverse." The first issue is out now, and both women join us to talk about what makes for meaningful experience in the field. 1:00 Growing up on a historic homestead in Alaska at a family-owned hunting/fishing lodge. Pilot's license = mandatory 4:00 Hunting ptarmigan with a bow as a five-year-old... also, playing "guide and client" with a sibling 7:00 Traverse - an outdoor journal focused on hunting ethos, edited by Tia Shoemaker and Christine Cunningham 12:00 Christine Cunningham's book "Women Hunting Alaska" 13:00 "Ready? Fire!! Aim?" 15:00 Recovering from a surgery can make you zero in on what you'd most like to be doing 17:00 Feeling more "awake" in the hunt field + crawling at cockroach speed 22:00 Traverse = "the cave paintings of our time"... storytelling at the nexus of connection and place 28:00 Do hunting stories where everything goes right paint an authentic picture of the sport? 30:00 Celebrating experience as much as we celebrate success 32:00 First issue of Traverse is out now! TraverseJournal.com 36:00 "Be fearless and available to the moment" 41:00 Tia on NWF's "Vanishing Seasons" podcast ... "Wealth isn't about how much we have, it's about how much we enjoy it." 43:00 Pebble Mine prospect in Bristol Bay... it's been a long fight 48:00 Submissions at Traverse mag 50:00 Artemis Book Club - our first read is "Braiding Sweetgrass," virtual book club chats are on the horizon 51:00 Other book recs: "The End of the Game" by Peter Beard (LINK); "The Living Mountain" by Nan Shepherd; "The Old Ways" by Robert MacFarland; "Heartsblood" by David Peterson 58:00 2021 Artemis Ambassadors... you're going to meet them soon!
Have you heard of the Artemis book club? The club's summer read is "I Don't Know Why I Swallowed The Fly" by Jessica Maxwell. In the spirit of fly-fishing season, here's a treasure from the Artemis Archives -- Ali Bear giving us the play-by-play of casting. It's simply wonderful. Don't forget to join our community online in the Artemis Facebook group, or email us at email@example.com if you know of a book we should all read.
Kaitlin Barnhart is one of the co-founders of The Mayfly Project, an initiative to connect fly-fishing mentors with foster kids. A lot of the lessons we learn on the water carry over to the rest of our lives. Slow down and work out all the knots. Seek help from those with more experience. Kaitlin also tells us what it's like to grow a passion project into a national organization with employees and volunteers galore. 00:40 Remember Sarah Topp and Timberdoodle? 3:00 Ground-nesting bird species and dogs-always-leashed rules, even on public lands 5:00 Timberdoodle: The dog who pulled her owner on rollerblades six miles in 24 minutes... "It was terrifying, but I find that fun." 8:00 When you learn to fly-fish in Alaska and then return to Idaho... "Oh, I guess I'm not as awesome as I thought I was." 9:00 The Mayfly Project -- linking foster kids with fly-fishing 10:00 Foster kids and access to sports/the outdoors 12:00 Becoming a mentor with the Mayflly Project 14:00 From the genesis of an idea to 53 locations with mentorship projects in place 17:00 Teaching a conservation ethos alongside fishing 21:00 Fly-fishing gives us so much bounty 25:00 Slow down and work out the knots (Fishing lesson, or life lesson?) 28:00 When people are in and out of someone's life, the outdoors can be its own kind of steady relationship 32:00 When Mayfly project kids teach OTHERS to fly-fish 35:00 Making an investment of time into a kid is huge 38:00 Bringing a Mayfly type of project to a new place: it usually starts with a single invested, committed, connected person 41:00 When a non-profit grows from a self-motivated, two-person hustle to an organization with employees and volunteers galore 42:00 Find the Mayfly Project on Facebook and Instagram 45:00 Fly-fishing as a mom with three kids... and when fishing kids evolve from littles to teens 48:00 Fishing as a meditation / escape 52:00 Did you miss our fly-repellent tip on Amber Rose from Victoria's Secret? 56:00 Getting some instruction vs. teaching yourself 57:00 Hey, everyone... exciting news! Artemis's Fly-Fishing Tactics event is ON. There's a goodie bag, a storytelling contest, and loads of tips. Join us! Register here!
Artemis heads afield this week to talk with storyteller and adventurer Mandela van Eeden in Montana. Mandela's upbringing was split between South Africa, where her family harvested from the sea, and Montana - where they gratefully accepted the river's bounty. She went on to become a raft guide in the Grand Canyon and in New Zealand. Mandela talks to us about connecting to place, pursuing your dreams, and how we can care for what sustains us. Plus, a black bear walks in on Marcia and Mandela mid-way through the episode. (No jokes, folks!) 4:00 All the 'boks' in Africa, which is Afrikaans for 'deer' (springbok, bontebok, gemsbok) 5:00 A childhood split between the African bush and Montana, leaving your heart in both 11:00 Three Gorges Dam & the Yangtze River 12:00 Storytelling with sound and music AND raft guiding both hemispheres 16:00 What's the core value that makes us do what we do? 18:00 The Oily River Rendezvous and seeing an oil spill from the river's view 19:00 "If you think you're too little to make a difference, you've obviously not spent the night with a mosquito." 22:00 "Grand Canyon pink" - a rattlesnake endemic to that space 24:00 Getting Primitive program gets kids into bushcrafting 27:00 Fish in one hand, shark in the other 30:00 Fly-fishing as a family affair 32:00 Podcast interrupted by a black bear... yep, bonafide bear strolling through! 37:00 The myriad of ways in which people gather from the sea 38:00 NWF Outdoors podcast, Vanishing Seasons 41:00 If you want to connect with a place... BE there. Fully present. Cease the wandering mind. 42:00 Yoga sutras written by Pantanjali 49:00 Connection to the outdoors through harvest + patience and mindfulness 50:00 The value of a mentor 54:00 Riverboarding the Grand Canyon for 15 days... the dream started with a flip (link to article?) 56:00 Thalweg: the fastest current in the river 59:00 "Go into your dream closet and dust off some of those ones you've filed away." 1:03 Introducing family to game - antelope and bear... and recruiting a nephew into the ranks 1:06 Listen to what your body tells you to eat (plus, spearfishing)
BeBe Dalton Harrison was raised in a South Carolina fishing family. They often caught their supper from the salt marshes -- fish like large-mouthed bass, sea trout, and flounder. As an adult, Bebe now has the dream job of sharing her love for the salt marsh with other women, families and kids. Today on the show: A Carolina bug-battling tip straight outta Victoria's Secret, sea trout versus freshwater trout, and tackle-purses. 2:00 Tips for not scratching mosquito bites, other than willpower. A hot tip from Victoria's Secret (picked up at a tackle shop)... it's called Amber Romance 5:00 Other sensory vibes: The aroma of a salt marsh 7:00 South Carolina Wildlife Federation effort to restore a coastal bird rookery 10:00 Growing up in a fishing family on the South Carolina coast - sea trout, flounder, crab, sea bass, weakfish, etc 14:00 Taste test: Freshwater vs. sea trout 16:00 Hush-puppy fish fry 19:00 Growing up in fishing, growing away from it, then circling back around as an adult 21:00 Finding your path (however circuitously) 22:00 Want to break into an agency job? Persistence + volunteering + keep applying 25:00 R3 - Recruitment, Retention, Reactivation 26:00 Developing a salt marsh education program + Angling Women, a business to teach introductory marsh fishing to women and families 30:00 Poll: Who do you think asks for fishing lessons more often... men? Or women? 33:00 The tackle-purse! No, really. Plus, rod charms. 35:00 Environmental education bearing fruit: When a kid in a salt marsh ed program becomes a fishing guide 37:00 The $700 fish pic 42:00 From spin rods to fly rods + that first tug on a fly 45:00 Taking someone new? Especially a kid? Try leaving your rod at home. And maybe pack some non-fishing entertainment, too 50:00 "However you treat the trip is how they're going to remember it." 53:00 Find BeBe and Angling Women on Facebook and Instagram 59:00 Get in touch! firstname.lastname@example.org, or, check out our Facebook group
This week we're revisiting one of our favorite episodes - we're here to 'pick' the brain of mushroom expert Kristen Blizzard (see what we did there? Pick the brain? Har, har.) Kristen and her husband run ModernForager.com, an online resource for foragers across the country. Kristen tells us about everyone's favorite -- the morel -- plus other mushrooms you can easily add to your repertoire with a little extra know-how. We also discuss how to harvest for success in the kitchen. The culinary possibilities are endless! 3:40 - Harvesting arnica when the mushrooms aren't in 5:00 - Kristen and Trent Blizzard run ModernForager.com 9:40 - Mushrooms totally have a terroir, a sense of flavor imparted by the place they were harvested. It's simply lovely. 12:30 - What apple is to tree, mushroom is to mycelium. The mycelial network is everywhere! Under every forest floor. They're tree-like. 14:30 - "The Wood-Wide Web" – check it out https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/04/the-wood-wide-web/478224/; https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/from-tree-to-shining-tree 21:00 - Morel hunting wonderfully overlaps with spring bear season. Wild mushrooms complement wild game so beautifully. 23:00 - Adding a new mushroom to your foraging repertoire is a big deal! On posting a mushroom pic to an online forum, and having multiple different (very confident) answers on what it is 24:00 - Coral mushrooms are very hard to tell apart. Some cause gastric upset, others are fine. (Corals = mushroom jerky) 26:00 - Safe foraging is like any hobby: The more you do it, the better you get. Don't eat random mushrooms. Work on your ID skills 28:00 - People from Michigan = Michiganders 30:00 - Burn Morels vs. Anywhere Morels: You're collecting in a 5-gal. bucket versus just trying to find enough for dinner 32:00 - Do the time to find your spots, then those mushrooms come back over and over again. Black morels come out at higher elevation. The blonde ones often show up lower. 33:00 - Porcinis (boletes), chanterelles, and oyster mushrooms 39:00 - Start with a good mushroom book, then build your know-how. Chanterelles, for example, have a white interior. Less-edible look-alike have an orange-colored interior. 40:00 - Different geographies come with different look-alike of edible mushrooms. If you're foraging in California, waaaay more look-alike mushrooms than, say, in Colorado 41:00 - Timing of mushroom season is somewhat correlated to moisture... you can find mushrooms in the Pacific Northwest at Thanksgiving that might only be found in spring in Colorado 43:00 - On harvesting mushrooms sustainably - it's a hot topic! Cutting versus pulling is less important than protecting the environment where mycelium thrive 45:00 - On etiquette, pick what you'll use, and maybe consider leaving some for other pickers 46:00 - "Shrub" = A mushroom-infused drinking vinegar. Chanterelle shrub... fruity and delicious. Matsutaki shrub... cinnamon and socks. Pick your flavor, everyone! 48:00 - Mushroom confit 50:00 - Mushroom ice cream (candy caps, everyone! The maple flavor is astounding.) 51:00 - Chanterelle sorbet, chanterelle-apricot jam... the possibilities are truly endless 52:00 - Different mushrooms keep differently. Some don't keep their flavor when dehydrated, so try cooking and freezing those. It varies by the species. 53:00 - SAFETY... it's pretty intuitive, right? Don't eat something unless you know what it is. Apart from that, walking in circles looking at the ground is a great way to get lost. A GPS app helps. 58:00 - Check out the Modern Forager harvesting bag ... and LOTS of tips on how to harvest for success in the kitchen 1:05:00 - Getting started? Join a mycology society (yes, they actually exist) and meet some geeky mushroom people. Second thing: Find those mushroom groups on Facebook. They're great. (And all the #humblebragging totally tells you when certain mushrooms are in.) Lastly, get a mushroom book. The David Arora guide is a staple. Plus, "All That the Rain Promises and More"
This week we hear from South Carolina hunter Morgan Harrell, who checks in with us on Artemis's first turkey camp in the region. Plus, what's different about hunting with other women? Also in this episode: snow geese parts, what we remember from our childhoods, and eating the non-traditional cuts of meat. 2:00 "The only thing between Columbia and hell is a screen door." 4:00 Artemis South Carolina takes flight - women are coming together to share the sport 6:00 Nuts/flour/fish/moonshine... peek into thy freezer, peek into thyself 7:30 Canning wild game... yay or nay? (Pressure canning and the fear of blowing your house up) 10:00 Snow geese hearts and livers 12:00 Liver puddin' 17:00 Heart slices over the camp fire + other family memories 18:00 Being the only woman on the trip; Making use of every last bit of your harvest 21:00 Eating the non-traditional cuts - neck roasts, caul fats, etc 24:00 The regional ethics of what we do/don't eat 29:00 Family hunt camp and dead rattlesnakes that keep on wiggling 33:00 Childhood memories from the outdoors that persist 36:00 Artemis South Carolina does turkey camp! 38:00 What's different about a hunt with all women? 44:00 Finding turkeys (or not) 45:00 Hogs do the darnedest things 51:00 Are we ready for the Official Mary Lynn Fan Club yet?
It seems like a no-brainer: Let's conserve all wildlife, right? Jen Syrowitz of Washington state joins Artemis to talk about the importance of funding, which is possibly one of the least sexy parts of conservation. We also talk about upland bird hunting (dog, or no dog?), grouse, prairie chickens, and partridge. 6:00 Saving your seasonal bounty in the freezer... then realizing harvest time is almost upon us. Time to use those huckleberries/grouse/[insert food here] 7:30 Sand County Almanac 8:00 Graduate school in Manitoba to bird hunting to a conservation career 9:00 Conservation Northwest = the NWF affiliate in Washington state 11:00 Prairie chickens 15:00 Upland bird hunting: Dogs vs no dogs 19:00 First bird: a Hungarian partridge flushing overhead 21:00 Funding for wildlife management... but first, let’s go back to early environmental ed 26:00 How can we give people the right ecological literacy to understand (and participate in) wildlife management decisions? 31:00 We invest in what we know and love 32:00 Missouri conservation tax - a miniscule sales tax add-on that earns big 35:00 Recovering America's Wildlife Act - proposed legislation to fund conservation work to revive wildlife populations on the brink of ESA listing 41:00 Funding = the most unsexy conservation topic... but also vital 43:00 Northern gardening woes 45:00 Bear cub on the trail! Plus, channeling Tina Turner when you need her 49:00 Grassroots conservation + changing gender dynamics of land ownership 52:00 Missing a shot 53:00 "The honorable harvest" + Artemis book club: "Braiding Sweetgrass" by Robin Wall Kimmerer
What does it mean to be a conservation advocate? It's different for every person. This week, Artemis ambassador Anne Jolliff talks about what she's learned over the past year about how to best advocate for wild spaces. She shares her "why" and her "how," and more on how it's going. 00:20 Montana Wildlife Federation + Artemis 101 1:00 "Go Confident as an Advocate" program 3:00 Ladies and gentlemen... we are hearing from a mother of 5-year-old triplets 6:00 Why be a conservation advocate? 8:00 First thing: What's holding you back? 10:00 The first time you speak up for something you believe in 13:00 Writing an op-ed, testifying at a hearing, sharing what you know with others 15:00 Preconceptions about what it means to "be an advocate" 16:00 "I'm not here to be the magic bullet that changes everyone's minds and pivots this whole discussion, as much as I would like it to... but I am going to show up." 21:00 When was the last time you changed your mind? 23:00 Wear fancy dresses in the dirt, ya'all 28:00 Start by watching... hearings, the political process, everything. Follow the groups that fit your beliefs. Engage. Reach out. Talk to people. 33:00 Don't be afraid to fail... failure is integral to how you learn this kind of thing 37:00 Ethos, logos, pathos 39:00 Bear! Right there!
Jodee Dixon joins Artemis this week to talk about bear hunting in southeast Alaska. We talk about spring versus fall bear fat, pie crust, trichinosis (sp?- no one species, see note below), skinning a hide for preservation, scouting tactics, and more. Plus, what does hunting do for our sense of self? It's kind of a forced meditation, which is a powerful experience -- both as it's happening, and months later when we enjoy our harvest at the table. 2:00 Cold-season gardening, y'all 5:00 How does hunting change our relationship to the natural world? (Hiking feels extremely anticlimactic, for one) 9:00 How bear hunting differs from other quarries, and predator vs. prey dynamics 15:00 Bear meat, spring vs. fall 17:00 Predator hunting... it's an intimate decision for some hunters 18:00 Trichinosis 23:00 Freeze in chunks for grinding later (even MUCH later) 25:00 Catch our 'What About the Hide?' episode (or the blog post) it inspired a bear-hide tanning project. Want to TRY a hide? Roadkill can be a good starting point 30:00 Ticks... or mosquitos? (Or devil's club?) 33:00 The zen of hunting for a distilled/strengthened self... a "forced meditation" 40:00 Boat-assisted bear hunting in Alaska (with a side of grouse) 42:00 Predator hunting: bears, wolves, cougars... it's different 43:00 Black bear kidney fat for pie crusts 47:00 Mind-blowing bear biology... body temperatures, the quick transition out of torpor, floating eggs, etc. 51:00 "A bear without its hide looks a lot like a person." 55:00 Skinning paws/nose/head for a hide destined for the taxidermist (and OTHER languishing hides) 56:00 Sleeping on the boat, dragging anchor, custom-sewn sheets for the v-berth 59:00 2021 Artemis Ambassador squad... assembly in process!
Yasss, pythons. Not a typo. This week on the podcast, we hear about how Amy Siewe went from snake lover to snake hunter -- and how her hunting pal Anne Gordon-Vega also became a python contractor. Pythons aren't native to Florida, and they wreak havoc on native ecosystems. So... when you find a 17-foot python big enough to swallow a deer, in the middle of the night, and you're alone... how DO you handle that? 3:30 Badass python-hunters are grandmas, too! 5:00 Life transition: Going from being a real estate broker in Indiana to a Florida python hunter 7:00 A brief history of pythons in Florida... a non-native, apex predator 9:30 "In the southern part of the state we've lost over 90% of all mammals." It's shocking. No opossums, no raccoons, no marsh rabbits. 12:00 Miami, drugs & exotic pets 14:00 Pythons are VERY difficult to find in the wild 15:00 What eats baby pythons? Plus, python breeding 17:00 Two python facts: They're the only snake that sits a nest, and the "babies" are 18-24 inches when they're born. (AH!) 18:00 When a python regurgitates the last four things it ate... 23:00 The contractor program in Florida - Florida Wildlife Commission; South Florida Water Management District 26:00 The python-hunting version of a Florida family vacay 30:00 Meeting your first deer-eater sized python at 2 a.m., laying over its body so it doesn't wrap you, and wrestling it into a bag 34:00 Snake-bagging 101 37:00 Catching a python on your ebike 40:00 Team-tagging pythons at night in dark, dark swamp water 43:00 Wrangling a 17-footer, with a timely assist from passing hunters 48:00 Python hunting is actually not much like how it's portrayed on reality TV 51:00 BSwanky handbag line from Florida pythons 52:00 Amy is a full-time python-hunter... and she also saves the skins for her own line of product. Find her online, Python Huntress 53:00 What does it PAY to be a python contractor? It's not about the money... "I do it out of love (for the Everglades), and -- I'll admit it -- adrenaline." 54:00 Python hunting is a night-time thing... outsiders can totally try it on vacation, but start by paying attention to the rules: Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission 55:00 The Florida Python Challenge - cash prizes! ATVs! Reptile stuff! 56:00 Are we putting a meaningful dent in the python problem? 58:00 Snake-tracking hound dogs 59:00 Find @PythonHunter_Amy on Insta, or PythonHuntress.com for those snake skin goods we mentioned; Find Anne on the FWC Python Contractor FB page 1:04 Turkey hunting! It's ON. (Dinner Island Ranch, where working cattle land meets public lands) 1:06 When mom makes you a snake bag for the record-breaker on the horizon...
Artemis ambassador Phoebe Stoner joins us this week to talk about becoming a hunter as an adult, and about realizing that serving on a board is for EVERYONE. We hear about hunting in the greater Yellowstone area, plus making a difference in the same region through service to municipal/non-profit boards. Also? That elk is SO MUCH BIGGER than a whitetail. 2:00 Rocky Mountain gardening... keeps you on your toes! 4:00 Growing up in a rural, ag-centric place in a progressive/liberal family 6:00 That first whitetail deer in the greater Yellowstone area... first deer, trembling arms 10:00 Being a new hunter, your mental checklist in the field can feel so long compared to people who grew up doing it... but it DOES get shorter over time 13:00 Hesitating and second-guessing... those things can be good 16:00 Hunting/fishing... it can be hours of low-key mellowness before 'the thing' happens and you're 0 to 100.... "everything I've been working for is right here!" 19:00 Serving as a board member on a conservation group... from interest to 'yes, I'll do it' 22:00 Being a 20-something in Jackson likely means you'll have approximately four jobs, have trouble finding a place to live... AND, if you don't ski, you also might feel like something of an outsider 25:00 Offering public testimony to a group of policy-makers... it's kind of what democracy is about 28:00 Boards... they're everywhere! Corporations, non-profits, city/county government, state government, state agencies, etc 29:00 Board service is a great way to interact deeply with people you might never otherwise meet; And you have useful expertise! Truly. Boards benefit from backgrounds of all kinds 32:00 Every board's dream: Engaged, responsive people (knack for tangent-killering is a bonus) 38:00 What exactly does it mean to be "an expert"? (Pssst... you don't need to be an expert to have something important to say.) 41:00 Board struggles... how to make them productive versus time-wasting? Good facilitation helps. 43:00 Being a 'yes person' can bring you to a lot of AMAZING opportunities... the harder part is nailing the work-life balance 44:00 "I'm a recovering people-pleaser." (More on this? NPR's Life Kit podcast on it is worth a listen, How to say no, for the people pleaser who always says yes.) 47:00 Spending your career as an advocate vs. volunteering as an advocate 54:00 First elk after deer... 'Wow, this is big' 55:00 When your body falls INTO the elk's body (AH!) 57:00 There ARE perks to learning things the hard way 59:00 Peer mentorship for ladies on boards, anyone? Like a book club, maybe? 1:03 Purchasing a raft with a partner, two doggie life jackets included... life = changed!! Plus, learning to steer the oar rig 1:06 A healthy appreciation for realizing you don't know anything 1:07 Happiness is... a new toilet you install yourself 1:08 Artemis 'Turkey Tactics' storytelling contest... check it out!
Sagebrush country covers loads of the Intermountain West. If you're passing through on the highway, it can look barren and brown -- but sagebrush is the backbone of a unique, American ecosystem. Anymore, sagebrush habitat (and the animals that depend on it) is threatened by change -- invasive weeds mean different fire regimes, and humans mean more weeds. Hunter and conservationist Hannah Nikonow joins Artemis to talk about the intricacies of this unique habitat, and why everyone should care about its survival. 3:00 Smoked grouse with a sweet brine (maple syrup, rose hips... oh yeah) 4:00 Intermountain West Joint Venture 6:30 A quick ode to sagebrush country 8:00 An Artemis flashback - Sagebrush in the Gros Ventre Wilderness video 10:30 Some species that depend on sage habitat: pygmy rabbits, sage grouse, sage thresher, sagebrush sparrow, antelope 13:00 The wicked weed trio: cheatgrass, ventenata, medusa head 18:00 Fire regimes before cheatgrass vs now 22:00 Juniper encroachment changes the functional properties of sage habitat 29:00 Lekking... and party-crashing eagles 35:00 Advocacy mantra: They stick out their breasts for us, so we should stick out our chest for them 36:00 Why should hunters care about sagebrush? And what that looks like in practice 38:00 Pick weed seeds of your shoes/dogs; watch your trailer chains; stay on designated trails 41:00 The war on cheatgrass 45:00 PartnersInTheSage.com for more on this miraculous habitat 52:00 It's hard out there for a chicken & trapping skunks (& removing skunk smells) 56:00 Changing the stock on your shotgun for a better fit
Mary Lynn (of beagle-pack fame) joins us again on Artemis to talk turkeys. We talk about which calls to use, which sounds to master, where to put all your calls, and just... all things turkey. How do you know when to wait on a bird versus moving on? What about when a 'Jolene' hen moves in on your tom? 3:00 Wild turkey grand slam: Eastern, Osceola, Rio Grande and Merriam's -- these are the four subspecies of turkey you're after. 3:30 There's also the Royal Slam, the World Slam, the Canadian Slam, the Mexican Slam, and the U.S. Super Slam... there's a slam for everyone. More about the Slams at National Wild Turkey Federation. 3:45 Osceola turkey... looks like a cross between a turkey and a peacock 5:00 See turkeys in your state? Give a nod to groups like the National Wild Turkey Federation 7:00 Artemis' Turkey Tactics webinar 8:00 Turkey calls, from age five to present 10:00 Playing gobble 'hide-and-seek' in the house with Dad (OR, the country-girl version of Marco Polo 11:00 First turkey hunt as an 11-year-old – annoying a hen, calling in the whole flock, and dad-and-daughter turkeys for the freezer 13:00 On turkey hunting: "You won't always be successful... but you'll develop a story or a memory." 17:00 Turkey vest confessional... a go-to set-up 20:00 Decoy strategy 23:00 Vests versus backpacks 24:00 Gobblers come in silently, it's important for YOU to be silent, too 29:00 When to gobble at a tom vs. when to sound like a hen; Plus, calling in spring vs. fall 33:00 When a 'Jolene' hen moves in on your gobbling tom 37:00 The "shut up and wait 'em out" approach to bringing in a tom 39:00 How do you decide when to wait, and when to move? It's complicated. 40:00 Strut zones 42:00 Turkeys are highly tuned to noises and movement (versus smell) 44:00 A beginner's guide to turkey calls (and calling!) 46:00 Cluck, yelp, purr 50:00 Getting out there before sun-up, location calling, and the 'shock gobble' 56:00 Don't overthink it; Simplicity is success 1:02 Marcia's wake-sleep cycle rabbit hole: Huberman Lab podcast
Anna Le loves to watch students see a salmon in the wild for the first time, igniting a spark of wonder she hopes will stick with them into the future. As an outdoor educator, Le ponders how we can get people to develop a reciprocal relationship with the natural world and support BIPOC and underserved students to feel comfortable and fired up on nature. Le shares what it's like to become an outdoorswoman as an adult, and how we can best foster these experiences for teenagers. 4:00 "This is what I want to do the rest of my life... is connect with people on the water, have these beautiful conversations, and also show students and people their first salmon. That was the best part of my job." 5:00 Notable aquariums: Long Beach, and Newport 6:00 Brown Folks Fishing Lab 8:30 Quality of gear DOES influence how well we're able to enjoy cold water days 9:00 Fly-fishing and the flow state 10:00 Wal-Mart fishing poles with a hot dog on the hook 11:00 Conservation job perks: Steelheading might count as a 'work day' 13:00 SalmonWatch brings middle-schoolers out to the forest to show them the life cycle of a salmon 15:00 Bridging urban culture with the natural world (that mulch isn't going to ruin your shoes!) 19:00 Legislation in Oregon that lets every kid go to outdoor school 24:00 Meaningful outdoors education in older kids is sometimes as simple as planting the seed of something new... a subject matter, a lifestyle... it's a ripple effect 29:00 Blunders when you're new to the outdoors scene: Rolling up to a park you've wanted to visit and realizing all the campsites have been booked for months (psst... it was a success anyway!) 32:00 When you're building competency in a new field, it's a journey of research and asking for help 34:00 Artemis course: Go Confident in the Wild 37:00 Tips for teaching in the Zoom Age 39:00 Find Anna on Insta, @anna_venturing 42:00 Extension officers for the win 44:00 That moment in spring when you FINALLY know what your next seasonal job is... high five!
Mary Lynn of eastern Tennessee hunts with a pack of beagles trained to track and push rabbits. She's also a turkey hunter, a hunting mentor for many youth, and a remarkable human. This week: beagles, training hounds, why shooting rabbits sometimes feels harder than upland birds, barefooted turkey hunts, and getting the 'middle feather' from Texas gobblers. 2:00 Tennessee Wildlife Federation webinar with Ashley and Mary: Women in the Outdoors 3:00 Grouse: not ubiquitous in Tennessee 5:00 Mary Lynn of Light 'Em Up Kennels 5:30 A lot of the pack members are super socialized to people (translate: they love to be loved on) 8:00 Hunting with beagles is super fun for kids... on par with a giant Tootsie Pop 9:00 A real-life "Where the Red Fern Grows" story of a boy and a hound dog 13:00 Hitting a running rabbit is way different than hitting an upland bird 15:00 Rabbit country is tough-going -- briars, brambles, cover, etc 16:00 When the rabbit "checks" (clever as coons!) 18:00 Rabbits... "the M&Ms of the woods" ... everything wants to eat them 20:00 Cottontails vs. swamp rabbits vs. snowshoes 22:00 Rabbits usually run a circle 28:00 Montana jackrabbit... and the grand slam (grand thump?) of rabbit hunting 30:00 Rabbit & dumplings, rabbit stew, fried rabbit... mmm 33:00 How fast can you get a bead on it? 34:00 What aerial clays are to target practice for birds, there's a ground equivalent (rabbit clays) that bounces to help train your eye for more erratic ground quarry 37:00 The Alaska woman who made 'yarn' from her rabbit hides and wove with them 38:00 Hound dogs for subsistence hunting (aka 'meat dogs'), feists, black-mouth curs 42:00 Correlation between wearing hunter-orange and seeing rabbits 44:00 Want to give it a try? Look to Facebook groups first. Most important thing: Don't give up on your puppy. It takes time. 47:00 Mentoring youth on turkey hunts 50:00 When turkeys give you the middle feather... hmph 54:00 Texas turkeys versus Tennessee turkeys... "Wut you think that clicking noise is... gobble?" 58:00 Barefoot turkey hunting
Yana Robertson of Missoula, Montana, grew up in a traditional bowhunting household. Today she practices bushcraft and primitive skills when she's not in front of a computer running her fashion business, Feral Lyfe. Yana joins us to talk about backcountry survival, traditional bowhunting, and on how being a weirdo can be totally awesome. 2:00 Meet your local extension agent, folks 5:00 Families that smoke jerky together stay together [fist bump emoji] 7:00 Growing up in a traditional bowhunting family, and perpetuating that tradition with your own family, plus a little bushcraft & primitive survival fun on the side 9:30 Making awesome memories from those days when you don't bring home any meat... like the time a bull elk was so close it was almost within stabbing range... that's CLOSE 15:00 Learning traditional hunting from your grandma (plus baking, sewing, the works) 18:00 What does it mean to be a survivalist? It means to know your woods, your piece of nature, and be able to survive there if you have to. (Bushcraft and primitive skills are basically synonyms) 21:00 Where to start? Start small... know the plants around you, the trees 22:00 Serious versus fun... WHICH DO YOU WANT FIRST?! 23:00 You only get a handful of things to survive. What are they? Ferro rod, bow, embroidery kit, multitool, axe or saw, fishing line & hook, paracord. (Just kidding on the embroidery kit.) 28:00 Feral fashion freak? Eff yes. 30:00 Feral Lyfe on Insta, this is Yana's brand of clothes inspired entirely by the outdoors. Trout leggings... we all need them! The pandemic has made us leggings connoisseurs 35:00 Where do you meet your best buds? Events like brain-tanning extravaganzas 36:00 Psst... don't miss the hide-tanning episode with Charlotte Sykes: What about the hide? 42:00 Primitive period management... oh yeah, we're going there (Want more? Check out our "three Ps" episode on Pee, Poop & Periods: 3Ps with Anastasia Allison of Kulat Cloth) 47:00 Artemis and Feral Lyfe are doing a leggings giveaway! Check out Artemis and Feral Lyfe on Insta for the specifics. Also check out FeralLyfe.com, or... even find Feral Lyfe on TikTok 50:00 Idaho Trails Association women's only horse-packing clinic 54:00 Artemis made the 20 Rad Female-Led Outdoor podcasts list ... check us out alloutdoor.com. All the chest feathers are puffed right now 55:00 Turkey tactics... you can still get in on this! The first webinar was amazing. $5 gets you in the door. Register here.
This week... hide tanning! Charlotte Sykes is a hunter from England who started keeping all her game hides the same year her husband decided he'd eat only game meat. Charlotte's journey has fledged into a business, Buckskyn, where she sells goods made from the hides she tans herself. Join us this week for a chat on how to get into hide tanning, an overview of the at-home process -- plus springer spaniels, salt-marsh lamb, and more. 3:00 "Salt-marsh bred lamb"... the most delicious? 5:00 Kale, cabbages & brassicas all winter long 8:00 English springer spaniels on either side of the Atlantic 11:00 The year we only ate game 14:00 Learning curve of tanning hides 17:00 The play-by-play of hide tanning, starting with post-harvest 19:00 "You've got to be quite happy to put a bit of grunt behind it." 22:00 Meat prep room in your next house, anyone? 24:00 Can you sub anything for the tedious task of working a hide over a fleshing beam? Enter... YOUTUBE. (Spoiler: It's a pressure washer.) 27:00 Pickling stage 30:00 A non-traditional use for a sander! 31:00 One hide = three weeks start to finish 33:00 Traditional tanning vs commercial tanning products 35:00 Buckskyn - Charlotte's deerskin/hide accessory business, where each product comes with a hunting/harvest story 37:00 The ABCs of sewing with hides 40:00 Fleshing rabbits 44:00 Navigating the bullet hole 50:00 First trout! 52:00 Find Buckskyn on Insta; or online at Buckskyn.com 53:00 Artemis blog post, "What About the Hide?" 54:00 Matt Richards book on hide tanning: The Ultimate Guide to Skinning and Tanning 56:00 Artemis Turkey Tactics! If you're not in on the fun, it's only $5 to join -- get the scoop on turkey hunting and bump heads with other hunters as we all get our gobble on this spring 58:00 Artemis 'Go Confident' as an Advocate -- another program off the ground, which is off to a hot start 1:00:00 Past life: living in an Airstream by the river
Britt Longoria’s education and career journey took her to Africa, where she had the opportunity to experience an incredible landscape and its animals. At home in Texas, Longoria is still a hunter - and her passion is exploring how the hunting community can tell stories that share with the world the emotion, the adventure, and the “why” of our journey as hunters. 00:35 Rabbit-hunting with beagles. Is there anything cuter? See the pics in the Artemis Facebook group! 2:00 Gazelle vs. whitetail, plus breeding Dama gazelle for land management 3:00 Need hamburger inspiration? Try South African Bobotie curry 6:00 Telling the story of hunting heritage - Hunters feel their pursuit is moral; non-hunters often feel the opposite 7:00 Stories from individuals are sometimes better received than stories from a group as a whole... speaking from the heart versus the head 10:00 Hunting as a connection to place, spirit, and self 13:00 The discussion about who hunts and why should be complex... #alltheshadesofgray 15:00 Back to the beagles, everyone 17:00 "You don't win hearts and minds with facts and figures." 22:00 Telling your story often means exposing yourself to the worst of social media 24:00 Childbirth and hunting – both experiences are powerful, visceral, and lifechanging. How do we convey the depth of the experience and help it connect with people who’ve never experienced it? 30:00 When you lack connection to the natural world, it's easy to disassociate your thoughts from death -- especially when, say, you're feeding yourself 35:00 Lord Derby eland - worth a Google search, everyone! 37:00 Film slides on a carousel #blastfromthepast 40:00 Hunting in Africa - a totally unique experience 43:00 How do you get home from overseas hunts with meat? 45:00 The tradition of oral storytelling in the hunting world; photos can be easy to misunderstand 46:00 @HonorTheHunt on Instagram, beyond the trophy shot 49:00 Ashley's kidney pie with venison shanks and pork kidneys... that awful feeling when something turns out inedible 51:00 Find more of Britt's storytelling work at BrittLongoria.com and @brittlongoria 52:00 Sometimes that $16 DoorDash burrito is worth every penny
Ali Bair has managed to wrangle the lifestyle so many of us want -- cobbling together a career that matches our lifestyle. Ali is a fly-fishing guide in Colorado during the summers and works as a filmmaker in the off-season. This week we're talking about guide-life, the Covid fly-fishing boom, and how thinking beyond the all-day float trip opens up fly-fishing to more people. 3:00 Backcountry trout at camp = mmmm 7:00 Guiding the same rivers/places you fished as a kid 8:30 Seasonal double-life: fishing guide in the summers, filmmaker the rest of the year 10:00 Family vacay to Stanley Estes Park Hotel, aka the hotel from The Shining 15:00 Arkansas bass-fishing tips... black leech? White leech? Or huge 'ol dry flies like the grasshopper? 17:30 "Being a good guide goes so much beyond being good at fishing." 19:00 How you take an 18-month-old fly-fishing (don't opt out of the baby waders! Or worms getting cast into your face) 22:00 Pandemic was EXCELLENT for fly-fishing - AND - buying a fly-fishing business! Check out Sasquatch Fly Fishing 27:30 The "River Runs Through It" soundtrack... a personal fishing anthem in Montana 30:00 Fly-fishing business models: There's the two-custys-and-a-guide float trip program, AND other stuff -- like a backcountry hike to those harder-to-reach wade-fishing spots 33:00 Getting people into a basic fly-fishing experience is huge in recruiting new customers who'll come back summer after summer (like the $65/person intro trip at Sasquatch Fly Fishing) 36:00 Reel Women - guide service in the Tetons that operates trips everywhere 40:00 Making fly-fishing less cost-prohibitive 42:00 This is it! The podcasting version of a Fly-Fishing 101 lesson, where Ali talks us through casting 49:00 When you're casting, what's happening behind you can tell you more about what you're doing than what happens in front of you 53:00 Fishing isn't a 'guy's space' -- on family vacay or anytime else... it's for everyone! Yay! 1:00:00 Pandemic self-launches an online vintage clothing business, Little Vagabond Vintage - the perfect complement to a person who cobbles together income from things they're passionate about 1:00:05 Finally getting that bear hide from two years ago after the taxidermist lost your phone number... #bestmoment Big bear, tiny house.
What exactly do fish do all winter under the ice? It's a surprisingly ambiguous question. Almost everything we know about fish comes from studying them in warm weather. Aquatic Ecologist Bailey McMeans joins us to talk about what fish are up to in the depth of winter. Did you know fish brains are actually bigger in the winter than in the summer? Join us for a peek at what fish are up to under the ice. 3:00 What nudges a warmth-loving person to dwell in a cold place? The Greenland shark, for starters 5:00 How can the same fish cope with vast temperature extremes? 6:00 "Booger-freezing cold" 8:00 Canadian lakes: Wonderful systems for studying seasonal variations and the effect on marina fauna 12:00 Do you notice a difference in the quantity of fish caught when you're fishing under an ice tent versus au plein air? Light pouring into the water column... does it make a difference to fish? 13:00 Almost everything we know about fish comes from studying them in the summer 15:00 Studying fish brains in summer versus winter. WUUUT?! The size of the fish brain changes, everyone! 18:00 Is winter actually a time of scarcity for top-of-the-food-web fish in frozen lakes? 24:00 Does brain size increase/decrease in sync with cognitive demands? Like spawning, or navigation, maybe? 27:00 Fish are like most species, they have an optimal temperature range. But even for coldwater fish species, cold temps are still a challenge 33:00 Cold water: Colder; less light; and under a layer of ice, there's less oxygen exchange with the atmosphere 37:00 Isn't it kind of cool how much we still don't know? 38:00 Experiential knowledge from ice fishers is a huge boon to the study of winter ecology and fish... they're also integral to the whole 'catching fish' part of the study 46:00 What fish strike at also tells us about their underwater winter life 47:00 Spear(ice)fishing for muskie and northern pike with a decoy 49:00 Finding prey without vision (like possibly by using smell, movement sensing) 51:00 Do we care more about species we know intimately? 55:00 In the winter, the coldest water CAN be at the surface 57:00 Dr. McMeans wants to hear from you! Does the type/size of bait you use in winter differ than what you use in open-water season? Do you ever catch warm-water species, like bass, under the ice? If so, how do you catch them? If you have ideas to share, find us in the Artemis Facebook group. 58:00 How do you learn ice-fishing? 1:00:01 Hank Shaw's kidney pie #offal #notawful 1:00:03 Winter lake ice is changing/melting in the same vein as sea ice 1:00:06 Artemis Turkey Tactics! Join us for a webinar series on turkey-everything. Plus, swag, everyone! A huge thank you to GotGameTech (awesome mobile apps to teach you how to call game) and PegLegs Customs (beautiful handmade turkey calls) for their generous support of this event! Go check ‘em out.
This week Idaho Congressman Mike Simpson introduced an infrastructure proposal to remove the lower Snake River dams. It's a move the conservation community has been working towards for decades. The four dams on the lower Snake impede salmon and steelhead migration. In the farthest reaches of the watershed, runs have all but declined to a trickle. Joining Artemis to talk about Rep. Simpson's proposal is Betsy Emery from The Association of Northwest Steelheaders. 2:00 The Association of Northwest Steelheaders Oregon NWF affiliate. (Psst... check out their women's program! 5:00 Steelhead fishing at a glance: Wow, this is cold and boring. THEN, a fish strikes and you immediately get why this is such a thing 6:30 Idaho Rep. Mike Simpson releases huge energy and salmon concept to restore salmon in the Pacific Northwest through the removal of the Snake River dams 8:00 The decline of salmon in our lifetime has been positively precipitous, leading to season closures and the decline of an entire sporting industry 11:00 Salmon/steelhead lifecycle 101; plus, steelhead = ocean-going rainbow trout, which are huge 13:00 Baby salmon & steelhead... it's a wild ride to the ocean! 16:00 Salmon and steelhead return brings a remarkable influx of nutrients inland from the ocean #goshdarnamazingcycleoflife 16:00 How do we weigh economic production (dams/electricity) against the survival of a species? 17:00 Crossing dams is a hotspot for smolt mortality 19:30 "Every time a smolt interacts with a dam, their chance of returning to the mouth of the river as an adult drops 10%." 24:00 Ocean conditions are sometimes portrayed as a scapegoat for salmon/steelhead decline 26:00 Salmon runs on the John Day River (3 dams) versus the Snake (8 dams) 27:00 Smolt-to-adult rate -- the quantity of juveniles that survive and return to spawn. For Idaho salmon, it's less than 2% 33:00 "The Energy and Salmon Concept" initiative by Rep. Mike Simpson - it specifically looks at the lower four dams on the Snake River in Washington, not the dams on the Columbia 37:00 Stakeholders affected by dam removal: Farmers/irrigators, barge commerce, even a small cruise industry 40:00 The infrastructure proposal isn't an item of legislation... it's more of a collaborative effort in the making to work toward dam removal 43:00 Want to learn more? A couple links: The Association of Northwest Steelheaders; Idaho Wildlife Federation 46:00 Zoom testimony on legislation... TIME, everyone... SO MUCH TIME 47:00 Artemis's "Go Confident as an Advocate" series – background info on important conservation issues, how to draft meaningful public comment, write an op-ed for the paper, and generally be informed enough to advocate for things important to you
Brianne Lauro had a very specific idea of who she wanted to be, professionally, when she left the island of Hawaii to study fisheries management on the Mainland. But the deeper she got into her studies, the more she realized that her family's culture of knowing the sea was also science... so why wasn't it being included in management decisions? Brianne tells us about receiving the wisdom of the ocean from her elders, something that happened when she showed up and asked. 2:00 Pssst... in case you missed it, Artemis is accepting applications for 2021 ambassadors! Apply here! We're also hiring a communications coordinator to work on Artemis and other NWF projects 3:30 Octopus, or tako finally makes an appearance in our freezer selfies! This is the time of year when octopi are venturing from the deep into the shallows, making it an opportune time for harvest 4:00 Octopus harvesting is usually learned from family, person to person 6:00 Hawaii has nearly year-round hunting; Growing up in a hunting family there means you can get out a lot 7:00 Studying fisheries management to get a toehold in the door for local people, who are sometimes occluded from wildlife/land management processes 12:00 Higher education utterly changes your lens on the world... changing majors to fit a changing world view 16:00 Are degree'd outsiders making most of the decisions? How can community knowledge and connection to place be of equal value to research when it comes to how we make land management decisions? 18:00 Find Brianne Lauro on Insta @Brianne_Lauro 20:00 Listening to the elders in your family and absorbing their wisdom about your family's place 23:00 We have to ASK if we want to RECEIVE knowledge from older people, and their knowledge of a landscape is totally different than ours, in many cases 27:00 Being nomadic at certain times of your life sometimes grows your vision, but it's also time you're missing out on knowing one place intimately 30:00 Culture changes when people move away. It used to be unheard of to meet a Native Hawaiian who didn't know how to catch fish -- but that's changing 31:00 The middle ground between being a youth and being an elder 35:00 Don't ask kids, "What do you want to be when you grow up?" -- try asking, "What kind of person do you want to be? What values do you want to hold?" 41:00 By documenting elders, sometimes we pay attention to their knowledge better -- watching the moon, the tides, the sky -- and then knowing how fish respond 45:00 First-hand experiential and generational knowledge is as valuable as empirical science 48:00 Research alone can't solve big conservation problems 56:00 Don't forget to join us on Facebook! Artemis has a super-fun Facebook group for listeners!
Hannah Leonard's first toe into the sporting world was noticing that eating game didn't aggravate her Crohn's disease. Since then, she's become an angler and hunter, all while pursuing a master's thesis in how conservation can use marketing tactics to increase its impact and effectiveness. She joins us this week on Artemis to talk heart recipes, conservation strategy, and about what it's like to run Missoula's fly-fishing film festival. 3:00 Feeding your dad some deer heart, plus pheasant chili 5:30 When the sound of your safety clicking off spooks the deer you're aiming for... #facepalm (... but... this situation turns around!) 6:00 Mansplaining versus bonafide help (Spoiler: You CAN click that safety off less aggressively) 8:00 When your first big-game harvest drops quickly... #sothankful 9:00 Hunting, harvesting, butchering, euro-mounting with a new partner 10:00 Cooking a deer heart - the MeatEater recipe for a whiskey/coffee rub is hard to beat 12:00 Salt-soaking a heart to draw out some of the blood flavor 14:00 New to angling? Try choosing ONE river/fishing spot to master 16:00 Growing up opposed to hunting... and then getting a little closer, and a little closer, trying some game meat, liking it, and taking the journey in 19:00 Resource conservation and marketing -- instead of using marketing to get people to buy stuff, can we use it to sway someone's decision-making on conservation issues?? 28:00 Example: can you nudge landowners toward conservation easement decisions? 31:00 "Nudge" by Richard Thaler ... what is a "nudge unit"? Let's talk behavioral economics for a minute 35:00 There's a fine line between not being creepy, and also targeting the specific landowners most likely to make a sound conservation decision on their property 38:00 It's equal parts creepy/powerful to see how Instagram/Facebook can predict what we're shopping for... is there a conservation tool lurking in our midst? 43:00 Would conservation groups make more headway on their goals if they strategically targeted their effort toward would-be decision makers, versus every individual interested in their cause? 47:00 Hannah Leonard's thesis is up for perusal here: A Conservation Marketing Toolkit 48:00 "The Hidden Brain" - a wonderful podcast to explore unconscious patterns that drive human behavior 49:00 Why does game meat get along better with Crohn's disease? 52:00 How many great fishermen/women started on a Tweetie Bird spin rod? 55:00 Missoula Fly Gals - Monday fly-tying night over Zoom, with project materials available for pickup at the Missoula Angler (shop link) 57:00 Missoula Fly Fishing Festival benefitting The Mayfly Project 59:00 Who else wants to go fishing with April Vokey? (Check out her podcast here, The Anchored Podcast) 1:02 At 5am on a Friday, why not embroider on the couch with a survival show on? #bestlife
Hunter and trapper Jen Davis joins us from Michigan, where she shares about the value system that led her to sporting, and that also leads her to be simultaneously a part of groups like the National Trapper's Association AND the Sierra Club. Plus, Michigan muskrat dinners, a tricky turkey hunt, and the opportune (or inopportune?) fortune of spotting game on a pee break. 2:00 Buying an old house in rural Idaho... the things you'll find! 7:00 One freezer for food, one for curiosities 9:00 Saving feathers for a down vest (and jewelry/flies) - plucking, cleaning and keeping 12:30 Jen Davis is a longtime alum of Artemis events - Shotgun 101 seminar and Storytelling Great Lakes 14:30 On being a tumbleweed kind of person versus the taproot kind of person 20:00 Being a hunter for years with no harvest... then trying for a heavily regulated turkey hunt, and getting a generous call back from a DNR employee loaded with helpful tips 24:00 Setting up your pop-up blind in the presence of turkeys! Then trying to escape for a pee break, only to see a tom turkey barreling toward your decoys 32:00 Pee breaks and hunting windfalls 34:00 Being a new hunter, showing up to a trailhead and seeing other cars there, and not being sure how to handle it 37:00 Muskrat trapping & Michigan muskrat dinners (yep)... plus, learning to trap 41:00 Trapping as humane harvest 48:00 The night traps are out - it can be a sleepless night 51:00 Being a trapper AND being in the Sierra Club (and struggling to fit into any single group squarely) 56:00 "I really want to connect personally with my place in the natural order of things." 59:00 An excerpt from Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer, "These animals will die by his hand. But first they will live well, in part by his hand. His lifestyle - which I had condemned, without understanding - protects the forest, the lakes and the rivers -- not just for him and the furbearers, but also for the forests being. A harvest is made honorable when it sustains the giver and the taker." 1:00:00 Artemis book club, round two? 1:05:00 Welcome-to-the-neighborhood gifts: Molasses cookies versus dead ducks
Val Titus is a scientist whose work looks into a variety of topics, like what we can learn from the bioaccumlation of toxins in long-lived turtles (like from lead ammo, among other sources). When she's not doing research or teaching science, Val is a hunter who A). offers a wild game and drink pairing course, and B). introduces other scientists and conservationists to sporting through a group called Conservation Leaders of Tomorrow. 2:00 Becca's back! And Marcia is a closet tea fanatic 5:00 Yogurt vs. sour cream on the chili/fajitas/burritos - WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON!? 6:00 Netflix docuseries: "Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat" on complementary tastes in cooking... time to add "umami" to your vocabulary! 8:00 What can turtles tell us about the bioaccumulation of lead from ammunition in our water systems? (P.S. A snapping turtle can live to be 100 years old... lots of data there!) 11:00 Did you catch the Kodi Jo Jaspers episode on non-lead ammo? 14:00 Looking at metal accumulation in the blood samples from old versus young turtles 18:00 Aging a turtle? Look for size and belly rings 22:00 Hunting History, Ethics & Management class at Green Mountain College in Vermont 24:00 Conservation Leaders for Tomorrow - a group that seeks to bring scientists and conservation workers into the field to introduce them to sporting culture 29:00 Spawning an adult-onset hunter through tactful exposure and education 29:30 "You're a liberal and... you... hunt?" 30:00 Vermont's "right to roam" private property laws 34:00 In academia, too - introducing biologists/foresters/would-be outdoorsmen and women to hunting 38:00 Rabbit hunting with beagles 41:00 #childhoodmemories - Road-tripping with the family beagle and watching him jump out of a window onto the highway after spotting a rabbit #beaglefacepalm 43:00 Wild game and drink pairing 48:00 Artemis kitchen challenges with game.... breakfast for dinner! Mardi gras! St. Patty's Day! 50:00 Becca's adventure buying a 100-year-old farmhouse in rural Idaho... yay, Becca! 56:00 Artemis Southeast Storytelling Event on Jan. 21 at 6:30 EST 57:00 We're growing our ranks! Want to be an Artemis ambassador? Check out our 2021 Artemis Ambassador Application.
Carla Brauer was a vegan and animal rights activist in her teens. These days, she's a farmer, stockwoman, hunter, and... wait for it... a taxidermist! We talk about how you can change your diet without changing your ethics, dermastid beetles, and what it's like to give a TED Talk on your transition from vegan to hunter. 2:00 Dallas, Oregon (not The Dalles... and not Texas) 3:00 Living that double-freezer life - one for food, one for taxidermy 5:00 #pandemicpig in the freezer AND king pigeons... they're like big white fat doves (AND... Oregon's big bad rats) 8:00 Rat terriers to the rescue! 9:30 The personal journey of a former vegan/animal-rights activist who became more open-minded to eating meat, animal husbandry, and even taxidermy 13:00 Meeting a woman who took in 50-some chickens as rescues... and ended up selling their eggs to help pay for their keep. Vegan eggs? A eureka moment: You don't have to change your ethics to change your diet 16:00 The problem with a black-and-white approach to food (example: veganism has a hard line in the sand) 20:00 That gap between thinking 'maybe I want to try hunting' to actually getting out there... where do I even start? Like, how do I learn to shoot a gun? (It started with someone's generosity.) 22:00 Years of hunting with no success 23:00 Public lands hunting... it's intimidating. Finding a farm with a deer problem was a better first start 26:00 Reconciling your former vegan self (and social circle) with your emerging hunter/farmer self 28:00 Farming and making money farming are very different things... also, that point when you realize you're making more off quail skulls than vegetables 31:00 Dermastid beetle husbandry 33:00 "I had a lot of access to severed heads... as one does." 34:00 Carla's TED Talk 36:00 Hunting came (long) before agriculture... but does innovation allow us to evolve away, morally, from animal consumption? 41:00 Hiking/birdwatching/other outdoors pursuits... are they a surrogate for what hunting used to give us? 45:00 The hunting mindset follows you everywhere outdoors once it's in your frame of mind 47:00 The experience of doing a TED Talk (!!!) - and also of seeing animal rights protesters at your talk 54:00 ANYONE can be a hunter... and it's important for the sporting community to embrace that 55:00 The goal of meaningful conversation isn't to change minds... it's to plant seeds 58:00 Skulls to hides... and a self-built, wire-wheel fleshing machine Join Artemis Southeast online for a fireside chat - Jan. 14 at 5 p.m. Mountain! Register Here!
Allie d'Andrea, better known as Outdoors Allie in the social media space, joins us to talk about what it's like to become a social media powerhouse in the hunting and fishing world... as a beginner hunter. There are trolls, for sure -- but there are also a lot of people out there eager to follow someone learning to hunt and fish. Why now? We talk about the journey, and what that means to aspiring hunters and fishers who don't have a mentor and turn online for help. 3:30 Getting deep off the bat: You start a new job, then lose a parent, and then a new colleague you've never met sends you a package of flies with a condolence note - these are big, wonderful human gestures from the Artemis community 7:00 Spur-of-the-moment weddings, ya'll! 9:00 The life transitions that connect us to the sporting world 13:00 Non-hunting couple becomes hunting couple 15:00 Allie's Instagram page 16:00 First Lite: A workplace where people live and breathe hunting 20:00 Putting your story out there on social media... there's positive and negative feedback. The positive is so heartwarming it makes the trolls bearable. 23:00 A 2018 float trip with Maggie and Allie and being honest about your beginner’s experience 26:00 If you're interested in hunting/fishing, but you don't have anyone to mentor you -- you're pretty much learning online. That's your 'mentor' to the outdoors 28:00 We need experts sharing good information, but it's a whole 'nother niche to show the beginner's sporting space. "Watch my learning curve in real time" is Allie's sweet spot 31:00 Insta trolls... #hatersgonnahate 32:00 #mythbusting - Rack size (on your ungulate) is not correlated to your skill level or experience 35:00 Telling the food story versus the trigger/trophy story 38:00 Cooking with deer, duck, raccoon fat and more. Elevated Wild compares wild game fats. 41:00 Balancing meaningful connection in the outdoors with having a career that's ABOUT you documenting connection to the outdoors. (Sometimes you just don't film... the fear of burnout is real.) 44:00 Hunt to Eat's new Green Wave shirts... pretty rad! 45:00 When your high school bestie shoots her first deer and guts it perfectly 56:00 Saltwater fishing 1:00:00 A rough week for chickens 1:04 Liver is a beautiful, silky-smooth piece of meat... but the taste is unique, and there's SO MUCH of it. Should you cook/eat it every time if you don't really like it? (Adding cheese, everyone!) 1:08 Words from Glennon Doyle to close out our year: "We want to be on the mountain tops, but we're not called to be victorious. We're called to be wise, strong and kind. We are admired on the mountain tops, but we are beloved in the valleys...." #getyerkleenex #theresmore
Ella Willms was raised in a hunting family in Wyoming, and she's joined her dad in the field as long as she can remember. This fall was Ella's first year as a licensed hunter. She joins Artemis to tell us all about that experience, and how it feels different when you’re the one behind the gun. 2:30 Artemis 2021...SO MANY IDEAS. Florida spearfishing on the list! 4:00 Imagine growing up in a family where the freezer is full of moose, elk, deer, pheasant, dove, antelope, etc. 5:30 Growing up in a hunting family, then turning 12, and becoming a licensed hunter yourself 6:00 "It's just really fun, I guess. We experience new things every time, and it's like a new adventure. It's never the same." 7:00 Hunting deer, encountering a sow bear and cubs clunking out of a tree 10:00 First hunt... so much going on! Bucks and does moving in and out, and keeping an eye on YOUR animal 12:30 Being behind the gun versus watching someone else's hunt 15:30 Deer tacos - a celebratory first meal! Bringing food to the table is a special feeling 18:00 "Hunts with dads are always fun" 19:00 Advice to parents? Be patient. Kids will take their shot when they're ready 24:00 Labradors at the beach: WHY DOES THIS WATER TASTE DIFFERENT?! 26:00 Does the satisfaction of a good shot ever go away? 27:00 If you're feeling generous and able to give this holiday season, please consider Artemis (artemis.nwf.org/donate) - all money generously given goes to supporting programs that connect sportswomen
In the last of our series with scientists from the Monteith Shop, we talk with Rachel Smiley and Brittany Wagler about their research understanding pneumonia in bighorn sheep herds. Several pneumonia pathogens are common across a handful of Wyoming herds, but some herds seem more susceptible than others to outbreak. Plus, you've heard of 'super-spreaders' in the Covid era... do sheep have the same kind of individuals? 5:00 Vegetarian to hunter transition 8:00 Evolution as a hunter: With family, by yourself as your beliefs of ethical hunting change, then back to hunting with others again 9:30 Hunting with your sci-gal pals is pretty great! 12:30 Bighorn sheep are susceptible to respiratory pneumonia, which can have an impact on population dynamics year to year. What are the environmental factors (habitat/nutrition/physiology) that influence pneumonia vulnerability? 13:30 Research questions: What's the energetic cost of a sheep getting pneumonia? Are antibodies passed to offspring? Are different herds affected differently? 15:00 Whiskey Basin herd in Wyoming had a big outbreak in the '90s, which led to a big, all-ages die-off of many members of the herd... they're STILL recovering. The Jackson herd has also had outbreaks, but recovery's been better. Why is that? 21:00 Collaring lambs vs. fawns... apples to oranges 22:00 So... how DO you collar a lamb? 27:00 Pneumonia in bighorn sheep comes from contact with domestic sheep. Most of that contact has been eliminated, but about five pathogens persist 31:00 Same sheep herd, very different use of the same habitat... and we ask, does this influence pneumonia susceptibility? 36:00 Different individuals can have odd behavior/migration patterns... what do they tell us about a population? 41:00 Ice bath?... enema?... it's all in the semantics 44:00 Most sheep herds have the same pathogens in them, but they don't always result in symptomatic pneumonia 47:00 You've heard about Covid super-spreaders... here's a take on how that plays out in bighorn sheep (which don't socially distance or wear masks) 50:00 Being an ungulate biologist requires a lot of the same skills as hunting... and optimism! You have to be a believer to know you can catch a sheep lamb in the wilderness 59:00 Minimizing disturbance in the backcountry is one of the best things you can do for sheep 1:04 Are we scientist/hunters, or scientist hunters? (Grammar save lives!) 1:11 Looking for a lamb... finding a cougar! And realize the lamb is in the cat's belly and its collar is in the cougar's cave 1:18 Need more Monteith Shop in your life? Find them online at UngulateCompendium.org, or on Instagram @Monteith.Shop... and find Artemis online in our Facebook group. We'd love to have you!
BONUS EPISODE: It's not every day we appropriate the identity of old, bearded white guys... but if we could be Santa (or Oprah) for a day, here's what we'd be stuffing under your tree. From electronic earplugs to a unique dressing tool called the Butt Out, we've got gift picks from Artemis host Marcia Brownlee, Artemis coordinator Ashley Chance, and Artemis ambassador Genevieve Villamizar. By no means a comprehensive list... but who doesn't benefit from learning what's in other folks' equipment quiver? 2:45 - Minimal approach to gear - one set of stuff that crosses all your hobbies outside 3:57 - "Buy the best you can with what you can afford" 5:36 - First gift of the season... electronic earplugs! Yes, it's a thing! Hearing damage is cumulative... every single shot does damage. Great for duck/upland hunters. 8:25 - Also... buying used earplugs... what does this say about someone!? #tenacious 8:50 - Second gift of the season: A membership at the local shooting range is a total gem of a gift. You get to handle your firearm a lot, you get community, you get practice. 11:20 - Ladies and gentleman... THE INSPIRATION BURRITO 13:22 - An anus extraction contraption! (It's called the Butt Out Dressing Tool) 16:20 - Let's talk books: Jim Harrison's "The Road Home" or "A Hunter's Road" by Jim Fergus are great gifts 18:10 - Prois heated vest with a rechargeable battery pack... can you put a price on staying warm? 20:36 - A vacuumn-sealer! Game-changer in the kitchen 21:04 - Victorinox knives - super-sharp and not hugely expensive 23:20 - Funds feeling stretched? A hand-made coupon book is the bees' knees! You can offer two hours of processing... a single stiff pack-out for a friend... it's a symbol of the support and warmy-fuzziness of our hunting community 24:00- fishpond Piopod - a backcountry trash pack that packs around super easily. Who likes seeing fishing line on the river? (Also, who picks up that fishing line and finds it in their pocket days later?) 25:10 - Hunt to Eat... t-shirts, hoodies, kitchen gear, stickers! There's so much good stuff available from there. #huntergifttreasuretrove Psst... you can also donate to Artemis! It's a great way to improve access to sporting for women and girls -Want more? Join us online in Artemis's Facebook group. It's a great place to hang out and connect with other women! -Holiday music was Jazzy Bells from Dee Yan-Key at FreeMusicArchive.org
This week on the podcast, epic wildlife stories (really, trust us on this one) with some heavy science. Energy development in the Wyoming Range affects how mule deer use the lands around them, effectively tightening their habitat -- but not in ways that are always obvious. Ungulate ecologist Sam Dwinnell of the Monteith Shop tells us about her research, plus more stories from the field. (So many good stories, everyone!) 2:30 On being a verified ungulate fanatic #jointheclub 3:00 Wyoming Wildlife Federation - hunting/angling conservation, from wildlife-friendly fences to policy (on Insta @WyomingWildlife) 7:00 Sam Dwinnell from "Deer 139" 8:30 She who has the mental presence to discharge bear spray in front of a charging moose! 10:00 Managing mountain goats to protect bighorn sheep in the Grand Tetons 12:30 Am I being charged by a grizzly? Or a bull moose? 14:30 After bear spray's been deployed, the smell is a wildlife attractant #ruhroh 18:00 Vignettes from an ungulate biologist: LOTS of time spent with big four-legged animals nearby, wondering which way they'll bolt 19:30 Snoring moose (sounds like growling) 22:00 Monteith Shop is a science lab at the University of Wyoming 24:00 Wyoming Range Mule Deer Project - looking at the effects of energy development on mule deer winter range, and also what regulates mule deer populations 27:00 A mother's life history/age/body condition influences fawn survival, regardless of predation events. 30:00 How does human behavior/disturbance affect wildlife? And how is that effect compounded in environments that change seasonally? 33:00 Almost all mule deer populations in the Wyoming Range have co-existed alongside energy development their whole lives, yet they still avoid many of those development sites 34:00 How can we balance economic industry/the need for energy against wildlife needs? It starts with understanding the wildlife... how does energy development affect food resources? Do they have to move more, depleting their fat reserves? 36:00 Energy development functionally lowers the carrying capacity of mule deer habitat. The food is there, but deer avoid it. For every 1% of direct habitat loss, there's another 4-5% of indirect habitat loss 43:00 "Reclamation" is a work in progress. Does it look like there was never a well pad there? No. But the process is evolving for the better. 44:00 It takes a long time for disturbed habitats to recover... you can literally still see the wagon ruts of the Oregon Trail out there 48:00 Anecdote/observation vs. empirical evidence 51:00 Good, trusted science happens outside of the realm of advocacy 58:00 Science is never "done"... the more we learn, the more questions we have 1:02 Hunters study animals, too! The more time you spend with a species, the more intimate your relationship with it 1:10 Two sides of conservation: Sporting versus 'leave it alone'... so many shades of gray there #morethanfifty 1:15 Do we affect wildlife when we simply pass through their neck of the woods? An epic mule deer story from the Frank Church 1:24 Find the Monteith Shop online at UngulateCompendium.org, or on Instagram at @monteith.shop 1:25 Join the discussion in the Artemis Facebook group, and follow us on Instagram @artemis_sportswomen
Mule deer can't avoid predator risk. And while it's natural to study how deer move in response to predator pressure... what would we learn if we collared predators and saw how they moved in response to prey abundance? Katy Huggler's research during her time at the Monteith Shop showed some interesting predator movement patterns around fawning. But when it comes to deer mortality, how much bite predators get of the pie depends on the year, and basically all the other ways mule deer can die. 5:00 A childhood of hunting and trapping in northern Idaho was the perfect segue to a wildlife sciences degree from U of I 6:30 Switching systems from Wyoming mule deer to Idaho bighorn sheep 7:30 Deer and Elk Research Ecology Project - an effort to unravel the potentially competitive interactions between mule deer and elk 9:00 Trapping comes in handy when you're trying to understand coyote predation on mule deer fawns from the predator's side of the story 14:00 Predators... popular topic of discussion at the Wyoming State Legislature 15:00 Deer can't avoid predator risk 17:00 For mule deer, mitigating predation risk is all about terrain... and it's a risk that can't be eliminated. 19:00 Here's an example: We know car accidents kill a lot of people, and yet we still drive around all the time to live/eat/work/play/etc. A mule deer's life is similar... they have to venture into cougar territory to make a living out there. Getting got is a risk that never goes away. 23:00 Sooo... kill all the predators, save all the mule deer for hunters? Hmm. 26:00 Trapping coyotes (and any canid, really) is hard. They're smart, savvy animals. Katy's study had 42 collared coyotes involved 30:00 Being a "mugger" on a heli crew 33:00 Yes, it can be hard on an individual animal to be trapped/handled/studied -- but the knowledge gleaned does so much to increase our understanding of the species as a whole 38:00 How it comes together: We have collared mule deer and collared coyotes... let's try to understand how coyotes are using their space in relation to female mule deer, and whether that changes during fawning 39:00 Coyotes more strongly selected for areas being used by female mule deer during the apex of fawning, and they exhibit complex movement patterns -- kind of like a searching behavior. Long story short: Coyotes totally change their behavior when a profitable food source (mule deer fawns) is available 41:00 But here's the thing... the coyote doesn't always win. Their take isn't excessive 47:00 Drought severely affected a number of study animals 51:00 Mule deer fawns... so much against them! And yet they persist 52:00 Hunters/trappers were the highest source of coyote mortality in the study's collared 'yotes... second biggest coyote-killer? Cougars 1:11 The joy(/utility) of finding coyote poop if you're trapping coyotes 1:12 "I am someone who takes coyote poop and puts it in a Lay's chip bag."
Mule deer are remarkably faithful to the geographies they were raised in... until they're not. Ungulate ecologist Rhiannon Jakopak from the Monteith Shop joins us to talk about rogue individuals, migration fidelity, the rose petal hypothesis, and more. Plus, the emotions of harvesting your first animal (slash ANY animal). 4:00 From vegetarianism to wildlife science to becoming a hunter with your sci-pals in tow 6:00 Taking a life... you process it while you're literally processing it. The complicated feelings are normal; they don't need to go away 12:00 Those hunting mentors who make you feel encouraged, not pressured 14:00 A first-time mule deer harvest: Watching an individual deer for weeks before getting a shot on it at 28 yards.... and just like that, a life is changed 17:00 Knowing your local mule deer as individuals... so much so that you recognize certain animals in friends' harvest photos 19:00 Transition from bow- to rifle-hunting... there's a different feel to the hunt 23:00 The Rose Petal Hypothesis - this idea that female deer establish home ranges that are adjacent to and overlapping those of the female parent and sisters in a manner that looks like the petals unfolding on a rose 24:00 Mule deer have high fidelity (faithfulness to preferred geographies) and philopatry (those places near where they were born/reared) 28:00 Because of high site fidelity/philopatry, mule deer are especially slow to fill habitat vacuums... if we inadvertently remove them from a landscape, it can take a long time for new deer to show up 31:00 Combining knowledge from the science world with the place-based experience of hunters, ranchers, and other intimate land users 32:00 Rogue deer do colonize new habitats! They completely buck the fidelity/philopatry pattern, especially with their winter range 36:00 The first year of an animal's life is crucial for establishing the behaviors that'll govern behavior later on - rogue deer go rogue as yearlings 39:00 Mule deer have generally low fawn survival... but they also typically have two fawns per year 41:00 Scientist #facepalm: when all 50 collared fawns in your study die 45:00 Why is it so fun to pick on bird people? Jokes aside, they have some SOLID science on taught vs. inherent migration 48:00 Do relatively common species lose their mystique for us? Heck no. Next time you see a deer on the side of the highway, ask yourself how many mountain ranges it crossed in the past year 52:00 Those big antlers on your buck? They're a symbol of an intelligent species on healthy, connected habitat... be reverent, everyone! 57:00 How do we tell compelling science stories? 1:02 We're in an unprecedented era of everyone caring how we communicate/reach each other 1:06 The good news: Everyone cares about mule deer. The bad news: We disagree what's going on with them 1:08 Scientists as arbiters of information for policymakers 1:13 UngulateCompendium.org - a place to get involved and be in the loop on new science; Also @Monteith.Shop on Insta