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In episode 174 of Klyph Notes, DJ Klyph sits down with Ryan Aiello of ILO (Ill Lucid Onset) at Trixie Studios. They dive into the group's journey, reflecting on their roots and evolution in the music scene. Ryan shares insights into their latest creative venture, highlighting the collaboration with producer Jackson Jackson and rapper Steve Lance. Tune in for a behind-the-scenes look at the artistry and dedication fueling ILO's newest project. The theme for Klyph Notes was produced by Theory Hazit Support the movement and become a DJ Klyph patron The intro for Klyph Notes was produced by DJ Klyph  

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The recent Channel Four documentary, The Princes in the Tower: The New Evidence saw historian Philippa Langley and TV personality Judge Rinder examine documents which they believe prove Edward V and Richard Duke of York were not murdered by their uncle Richard III, but were in fact spirited away to mainland Europe. From there they plotted both their return and the overthrow of Henry VII, victor over Richard III at the Battle of Bosworth Field. Joining today me in the first of a new series of bonus episodes is Jackson van Uden, the host of the History with Jackson podcast. Jackson chats about this evidence, as well as past episodes on his pod, and then we both talk about what to expect in 2024. Episode Links History with Jackson - Jackson's Podcast History with Jackson site The Princes in the Tower: David Pilling on 'The New Evidence' - Aspects of History Channel Four: The Princes in the Tower: The New Evidence Image of The Princes

Today on History with Jackson Jackson sits down with Dr Karen Carr to discuss her book 'Shifting Currents: A World History of Swimming'. This was a fascinating conversation that makes us look at swimming from a different angle by touching on its links to societal views, its entanglement with the politics of power and exclusion, and even some pre-history! To grab a copy of Karen's book head to shifting-currents If you want to get in touch with History with Jackson email: jackson@historywithjackson.co.ukTo support History with Jackson to carry on creating content subscribe to History with Jackson+ on Apple Podcasts or become a supporter on Buy Me A Coffee: https://bmc.link/HistorywJacksonTo catch up on everything to do with History with Jackson head to www.HistorywithJackson.co.ukFollow us on Facebook at @HistorywithJacksonFollow us on Instagram at @HistorywithJacksonFollow us on X/Twitter at @HistorywJacksonFollow us on TikTok at @HistorywithJackson Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Chris Jackson of Stonestreet Estate Vineyards and Jackson Family Wines (Kendall-Jackson) joined Bruce to talk about all things wine, including why Healdsburg, California, is the best wine town to visit in America, the truth about how the family business got started (and how it was pretty much a “catastrophe”), and other wine destinations he loves and why you should visit them. Should Sonoma Valley be your first choice over Napa?  Before revealing what regions the Jackson family feels represent the future of wine (and why a shift in wine regions proves climate change is real), Chris talks about what makes Stonestreet Estate and its 54,000 acres so unique, what wines you'll taste on the Stonestreet Mountain Excursion, why Stonestreet releases wines five years of age minimum, and how the Jackson family makes decisions centuries, if not decades, out. He then takes us on a wild tour of McLaren Vale and gives us a taste of his top spots in Italy and Oregon. Impress your fine-wine-loving friends by sending them this earthy and elegant episode!  A special thanks to Stonestreet Estate Vineyards for sponsoring the show today. Don't forget, listeners of "Travel That Matters" can receive exclusive access to Stonestreet wines and experiences, including some unique sets chosen by Bruce, along with a complimentary Single Vineyard tasting for two at the estate. Head over to Stonestreetwines.com/Travel to access these incredible wines—and don't forget to use code TRAVEL to book your complimentary tasting.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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https://hartshornjacksonjacksonwarren.bandcamp.com The offices of Hartshorn, Jackson, Jackson & Warren (HJJ&W) present to you the minutes from the quarterly review meeting conducted by the visual promotional media department in late July 2023.  Due to time constrainted the video department would like to offer their appologies for being unable to meet the deadlines set by the record label Monochrome Motif, providing neither the promotional visual material for the single 'Playing Office' or the subsequent planned singles 'The Canvasser' and 'Repressent Me', all tracks featured on the Debut album by Hartshorn, Jackson, Jackson & Warren 'Sound Investments'.  As the album release is imminent (4th August 2023) it has been decided to package the minutes from our meeting as a preview podcast to provide some insight into the process of making an album in a month from 4 seperate locations across the United Kingdom, as well as showcase a cross section of the material contained on 'Sound Investments'.  The album 'Sound Investments' will be available to purchase in CD form from bandcamp from the 4th August 2023, and it contains 11 tracks all built in the month of May for the Lights and Lines album writing club competition. The single 'Playing Office' was part of the Album Writing Club 2023 playlist and can be found here Playing Office by HJJ&W on Soundcloud The album was unsuccessful in securing any recognition from the competition, but due to business planning the partners had managed to secure a release for the album with Monochrome Motif.  Monochrome Motif on Bandcamp It should be noted for the minutes that Andrew Hartshorn is both the 'Hartshorn' in HJJ&W AND the CEO of Monochrome Motif records, placing him in a fortuatous position for negotiating the release of 'Sound Investments'. https://hartshornjacksonjacksonwarren.bandcamp.com Contained within this preview podcast: Radio promotional material no.23 Playing Office The Canvasser Represent Me Radio promotional material no.42 Within the preview podcast you will find this extensive sample of the album.  Including recordings from the progress discussions with Andrew Hartshorn and Al Warren, Cosmic Bos (Nick and Andy Jackson) guide you through the wonderful world of modern office life as musicians trying to juggle the responsibilities of existence. All tracks written, performed & produced by Hartshorn, Jackson, Jackson & Warren. Thank you for you time, and please consider purchasing this album in all seriousness. The visual marketing department wil be placed on Incentive Plans to ensure the completion of their assignments, and the Partners of HJJ&W do not wish the incompetencies of this department to reflect negatively on the company as a whole.  This Quarterly review meeting has been made available by Andy Jackson & Nick Jackson, for the public records, under the Monthly Music Challenge with Cosmic Bos Podcast label. For more details on all the partners of HJJ&W please refer to the Monthly Music Challenge in which they all participate. Please like, share and transcribe Kind Regards Cosmic Bos (Andy & Nick Jackson)

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In today's episode of Welcome to Cloundlandia, Dan and I dive into the power of mental images and harnessing our imagination to overcome trauma and achieve our objectives   SHOW HIGHLIGHTS Dean speaks on Implementing the 50-minute focus finder system. Which for him lead to a significant reduction in screen time and increased productivity. Setting goals, creating an optimal environment, limiting distractions, and establishing a fixed timeframe can help improve focus and efficiency in both personal and professional life. Studies have shown that mental images and imagination can be powerful tools to overcome trauma and achieve goals. Working with sleep psychologists and brain function experts can help reduce reliance on medications like Adderall and improve overall well-being. Changing sleep habits is crucial for better restorative rest and overall well-being. Entrepreneurs can create their own pathways for success by committing to their own goals and carving out opportunities. The gap between what is taught in schools and what is valued in the marketplace may contribute to declining college enrollment. Collaboration is essential for success in any endeavor. Targeted writing and AI newsletters can be valuable tools for entrepreneurs. Maintaining reserve currency status is important for the US dollar and global economy. Links: WelcomeToCloudlandia.com StrategicCoach.com DeanJackson.com ListingAgentLifestyle.com TRANSCRIPT (AI transcript provided as supporting material and may contain errors) Dean Jackson Mr Sullivan. Dan Sullivan Mr Jackson, you're in full voice There we go. You are in full voice today for Welcome to Cloudlandia. Dean Jackson That is exactly right, and it's been a great week in Cloudlandia and, more particularly, a great week in Deanlandia. Okay, that's the reason. Dan Sullivan That's the reason that Dean Jackson creates between the mainland and Cloudlandia. A lot of people don't know that, but there's a secret territory between these two worlds. Dean Jackson That's a secret territory. I love it, and there's a secret handshake to access. I know it's a funny thing. One of the. Dan Sullivan Secret tattoo. There's a secret tattoo. There's caps, t-shirts and mugs. That's right. Dean Jackson That's so funny, but not bumper stickers. Dan Sullivan But not bumper stickers. Dean Jackson No bumper stickers. In Deanlandia I've had an interesting, I'll tell you. I mentioned to you the distinction that I discovered between less screen time and more dean time And I successfully lowered my screen time by 29% this week. Dan Sullivan What specifically did you go after? Dean Jackson I spent more time. Everything that I do, i get done in what I call 50-minute focus finders, and the basics of the idea are that I've had ADD and I would always look at, even with the best intentions. I would want to do something, but I would find it difficult to focus or to do what I say I'm going to do without any supervision or accountability. So I started saying to myself listen, is it true that I can't focus, and is there any situation in my life where I can? And I immediately started thinking about golf And I thought I can play golf for four or five hours in a row with no problem. I can do that all the time. I can go to movies. I love going to movies And I don't have a problem with that. That's a couple of hours. And I started looking at what are the characteristics of what's going on with golf that makes it so easy for me to keep my word on that or to focus on that for an extended period of time. And it developed into an acronym for golf, which is all the characteristics of why I'm able to focus on that particular activity. And I thought, ok, well, first of all, the G is there's a goal, and a goal. I'd see the goal as a decision that I've made, the decision that this is what I'm going to do. I put it in the calendar. I'm going to play golf on Friday afternoon And it's in my calendar And I work all the way around it, right, everything. It's there as an anchor. Then O is for an optimal environment And a golf course is the optimal environment to play golf. It's set up perfectly for the task. You've got all the holes are already laid out. You start on the first tee. You kind of get on that. Ned Hollamall would probably refer to it as a bobsled run. You start at hole number one and you work your way all the way through to the 18th hole And then you're done. There are limited distractions. Is the L meaning there's not no internet? no, especially if you leave your phone in your bag or in your locker, There's limited distractions. You're able to stay on track. You've got all the equipment, everything you need, right there in your bag, in your golf bag, and F is a fixed time. And so I started thinking okay, well, how can I apply those elements to getting the things that I want to get done? that might be, you know, not golf the proactive things that I want to get done, and so I came up with this idea of a 50 minute focus finder And I would start blocking two hour blocks in my calendar And in those two hours I could do two 50 minute blocks with a 20 minute break in between. So it would be 50, 20, 50, and that could be two hours. And so I started thinking okay, i'm going to block off this 50 minute focus for this two hour block. I'm going to establish what's the goal for this What is it that I'm going to do? And then what would be the optimal environment for this And so, for instance, so if I'm thinking about, if brainstorm, my new book, is the goal, then I can, i would set aside the time. The optimal environment for that is in my comfy, on my comfy white couch in my courtyard, with my light, with I'd have some water. I've got my remarkable, i've got my. You know, everything is set up for what I'm going to need to accomplish that limited distractions. I'll leave my phone in the house and not have it here as a distraction, because I want the you know distraction free environment And otherwise you know if it's dinging or flashing or there it's tempting to get distracted on that. And the fixed timeframe I have a timer. I have a visual 50 minute timer, that kind of I can see where, where I am in that, without having to use my phone as the timer because it's too tempting for me, and so that 50 minutes goes and I'm able to get into a flow and do what it is that I'm going to do, and then at 50 minutes the alarm dings and I can get up and move around and go get some water, maybe a cup of coffee, get, look at my phone, you know, do whatever I need to do, and then, after the 20, minutes. I come back, set the timer for 50 minutes and do it again, and that kind of thing. I find that, you know, brainstorming often leads to outlining and that, will you know, lead to whatever the next step is, but I can always set up what the goal of the of the outcome is. You know, like one of the great examples, i never have a problem focusing on Welcome to Cloud Landia. I've had ingrained golf outing for about you know I set it in my calendar. I know where I'm going to be at the appointed time. I've got an optimal environment. I've got all the tools that I need. I have my remarkable you know, just doodling and taking notes as we're going. I'm out in the courtyard, i've got a nice bottle of water here And it's effortless effortless. Well, I think, you're. Dan Sullivan What's interesting about what you've just described is that you're taking a great habit and a great activity from the mainland and you're moving it into Cloud Landia projects. Dean Jackson I agree. And because that's where my access portal. Yeah. Dan Sullivan My sense is that if you look at the development of anything new in the world going back for as long as we have history, the biggest breakthroughs is where somebody develops, takes something that's really well developed in an old territory and moves it into a new territory. Okay, yeah, and I mean right now we can use the terms mainland and Cloud Landia, because we're in a current old territory, new territory, piece of history. You know the historical period. But it would have been the same with the development of the industrial technological breakthroughs. You know, with telegraph, you know telephone, you know internal combustion engine, assembly line, you know assembly line, you know the whole thing that the people who really make the money are the people who have the courier service between the two worlds. Dean Jackson That's a great outcome. I mean, when you think about that especially, it's funny. I was in the reading in the Wall Street Journal yesterday. There was. I get the print version on Saturday or for the weekend version of the Wall Street Journal And yesterday there was a hard-to-call newspaper in the world, by the way. Dan Sullivan Best newspaper in the world Saturday Yeah, yeah, so in yesterday I don't know whether it was Yeah, yesterday finest newspaper in the world hands down. There's no other newspaper as good as the Wall Street Saturday edition. Dean Jackson Well, there we go. That was your recommendation. By the way, about a year ago I started getting the physical version, but there's an article about entitled Mastering Your Mental Images. Can Make. Your Day. It's a new psychological technique aimed to use your imagination and all of your senses, overcome trauma and achieve goals. Did you read that article? Dan Sulivan Yes, I did. Dean Jackson Yes, i did. Okay, well, there you go. Very. Yeah, that's an interesting I mean, it's not so that sort of breakthrough information, but it's more supporting information that really shows what you think about. You. Bring about That's kind of. Dan Sullivan Well, it's cheaper than Adderall, you know. Dean Jackson Yeah. Dan Sullivan Right, right, yeah, well, i'm on a different path right now that you might be interested in. So I'm in a 12-week program with a sleep psychologist. Dean Jackson Okay. Dan Sullivan Okay, his name is Michael Bruce. Do you know, michael? Dean Jackson I do. Yeah, we found him on I Love Marketing He's yeah pretty good, well, i have nothing to say then? Well, no, tell me I want to hear all about it because It's all been said. Dan Sullivan Oh, that's so funny Between you and Joe and Michael. What else is there to say? But anyway, I was recommended him by Paramededia, who was my My Canyon Ranch go-to doctor for 10, 12 years, and then he's gone out on his own because he's spent too much time with me And be around me. You turned him into an entrepreneur. You're going to go out on your own if you're around me too much. Dean Jackson You're going to get infected. You're going to get infected. Dan Sullivan Yep. It's contagious, it's contagious. Yeah, anyway, one of my goals. I'm working with David Hasse, who's I don't know if you've met David or not, but he's in the pre-zone Yeah. And he's absolutely our number one overall doctor who is right at the center of all of our medical network, And his specialty is everything that improves the brain, the function of the brain. And so to start the program with him which was last August 2022, I set a goal that by 2024, August of 2024, that I would be off all prescription drugs. So that would include sleep medicines, Adderall and blood pressure medicines. So I have three big ones, And so along the way, I've been looking for ways of getting off the sleep medicine and Parmdedia, who really got me into having CPAP at night, which has been great. I've been doing it for 12 years. I've missed eight nights in 12 years. I really benefited from the technology. First of all, the machine does all the work at night. I don't even have to bother breathing. Dean Jackson It controls your breathing, at least the breathing in part. Dan Sullivan You get that. Dean Jackson Yeah, but it automatically. Dan Sullivan And it lowers your blood pressure at night because you're not working this hard. And so anyway, that was great And along the way I've acquired sleep medicines which I've enjoyed Lunefta and Sonata. But the tests that Dr Assy David Assy does with me indicated that there's a long-term negative impact of these drugs. They have a neurological effects over a long period of time. And he said I know what your lifetime goals are as far as how long you want to live. I understand your goals for where you want to be 10 years ahead, 20 years ahead. And he said if we can take these pharmaceutical things out of your system at a certain point, that'd be good. And I said, good, well, that's my goal. Two years of all prescription drugs And I've made great progress. The one that was. In order to get off the prescription drugs. What I have to do is change my sleep habits. Okay, because those drugs, which are the sleep medicines at night and the Adrol during the day, totally undermine your ability to get deep sleep, which is the restorative. It's the restorative sleep. So and I'm happy for my relationship with these drugs I'm not dissing the drugs. And already I can see some nervousness on the part of the drugs that whereas they thought this was going to be a lifetime relationship, i've kind of put them on the clock And yeah. So, anyway, we started three weeks ago and he's got really, really it's a wonderful coaching program. From the standpoint. You know me being a coach, i kind of understand a really good coaching program when I see it, and so what he starts you off at is that he starts gradually depriving you of sleep. Okay, so it starts at so it started off at 10 o'clock, where we go to go to bed at 10 and we wake up at five. Okay, oh my, God. And that's less sleep than I am talking about. I'm talking about in bed time here you know, 10 to 10 to five And then about two weeks in he moved it to 1015. And it means you can't go to bed before 1015. Okay. So, 1015, but you always get up at five, and his ultimate goal is that, regardless of when you go to sleep at night, you always get up at five, because then your circadian rhythms can kick in and you know and they've got. You know, from five till the evening, they've got 12 hours. They've got at least you know they've got 12, 13 hours for your natural sleep hormones to kick in and you get sleepy at the end of the day. So anyway this. So is that difference. Dean Jackson Like do you normally, have you normally? gotten up at five, or is that new for you? Dan Sullivan No, we ordinarily go to bed whenever but we always make sure to be in bed more than eight hours. Dean Jackson Okay, so that was our room, so sometimes you wake up at seven or eight or whatever. That'd be late. Dan Sullivan That would be late Okay. Yeah, yeah, but usually we're hitting bed at around eight, 39 at night. Dean Jackson Okay, and then okay, right. Dan Sullivan And then we put both. babs and I are morning people, so we're not we're not depriving ourselves. And then whenever we go to bed, then we put the alarm for eight hours, or more than eight hours, to get up in the morning. Okay, so that's a yeah, but it might be any time between eight o'clock and 10 o'clock that we would go to bed, but then when we got up in the morning, it would be determined by by hours later Yeah. By like sound, you know so anyway, so it was a real strain in the first week or so. What we're going to do next hour, hour and a half at night, you know you're sort of twiddling your thumbs and you're saying what could I do? What could I do? And then, before you go to bed, three hours before, you can't have any alcohol. So no alcohol within the last three hours, no food within the last two hours and no water within the last hour. And because the you're asking the digestive system to stay awake you know and do certain things. And so anyway, so long story. I'm just getting the general context here of what happened. But halfway through the second week I said I wonder if I so I take two Adderall's. I take a timer at least Adderall, first thing when I get up in the morning, which is 10 megs, and then, depending on the day and what's going on in the day, i'll usually have one around two o'clock in the afternoon. Okay, because I'm I'm starting to fade during that time and bang, I take the Adderall, and you know. And I'm the immediate release, yeah, yeah. So I experimented. I said I wonder if I can go through the afternoon, get through the day. And I did it once and it was just before a meeting with him, so I'd have weekly meetings with him And I he said, well, let's do an experiment, let's see if you can only have one day during the next week when you use the afternoon Adderall, because you've already indicated that you're kind of ambitious here. So let's see if we can do it. And I made it through the whole week. So I like and it's been 15 days now, i haven't had my afternoon Adderall and it's gone. It's gone, you know, because it's not an addiction. Dean Jackson It's not an addiction. Dan Sullivan It's a dependency and there's a big addiction You know, you know, it's just a habit, just a habit. It's not an addiction that has hold of your nervous system. So so he says that that's really great. And then I take two meds. At night, i take a lunesta, which is like a five hour, five hour knockout drug. And then there's Sonata and usually at the five hour four hour I get up and I do a fundamental human activity I pee. Okay, Yeah, Yeah. Dean Jackson Remember whenever you're planning to remember. Dan Sullivan When you're planning the future of the human race, make sure that there's always time to pee. And so I'll pop Sonata at that point. And that's fast acting, and I go back to sleep. So this past week I've kept the Sonata. So instead of taking the full dose, i break it in half and I just take half, and it's worked. It's worked. So I've gotten seven days in where I've just done half and he said okay, you're going down vacation now next week, see if he can get rid of the Sonata. So I have. But the big thing, dean, is we have to do a complete diary every day. It's a seven day diary and then we have to send it to him before our next meeting with him. And then he goes and looks and he said you know pretty good. He says you're, you'll probably be about four weeks into the five weeks into the program and you will have eliminated the afternoon Adderall and the middle of the night Sonata. He says that's, that's quite amazing, amazing progress, yeah. Dean Jackson But I like. Dan Sullivan I like the structure and he's very adaptable. I mean, he's got his goals He wants you to get, he wants you to have the habit of getting up at five o'clock in the morning. But I told them Friday, i met with him on Friday, just a couple of days ago, and I said you know, you've reintroduced me to a pleasure that I have not experienced, i bet, in 20 years. And what's that? It's the feeling of being sleepy. Dean Jackson Hmm, oh, interesting, so you were using the, the, the lunesta is the one that was. kind of that was the signal or whatever. right, the behavioral yeah signal to get sleepy Yeah, and so. Dan Sullivan I was taking upper the Adderall is the upper and the lunastons and outer are downers. So I was never sleepy. Dean Jackson I would just be, i would just be up and then I was down chemically, you know what's so funny if you say those words, and Joe and I had Richard Vigory on our marketing podcast and he talked about his daily routine of you know, two uppers in the morning and two downers in the evening, and that's where two cups of coffee in the morning and two glasses of wine in the evening. He called them as uppers and downers. Yeah, rhythm right right? Dan Sullivan Well, Richard can do anything he wants at this stage. Yeah, richard's in, i think he's in his, he's in his 90s, you know. I mean he's, you know he's beyond. He's beyond warranty refund. I'll tell you. That's so funny. Yeah, he's a he's a yeah, he's really in the history of the last 60, 70 years of politics in the United States, yeah, And the person, people most responsible for establishing a solid conservative mindedness and conservative voting population. Richard would be in one of the top five of all the people. Dean Jackson I think you're absolutely right. Yeah, You said something interesting about your. You've developed the routine that when you get up to pee, you take the sonesta and that's your cue to go back and have another round of sleep And I may have no issue. I heard I heard someone say you know, if you're gonna tell yourself a lie, you may as well make it a good one. And I started. I started thinking that well, not only that, you might will make, you might will make money on it. You know, if you're gonna, that's called marketing. Dan Sullivan That's called marketing. Dean Jackson I would have the same thing again. I would wake up at five o'clock, for instance, to pee, And then sometimes I wouldn't be able to get back to sleep, right, Because then my mind would start like already you know, working on the things I'm working on for the day or whatever. But I started telling myself the the better story. I would wake up at four often 445, 450 is around the time, usually right. And so if I wake up and it's that, i smile and I go pee and I'm saying, like I'm creating this story, that this is great because I'm gonna have the two best hours of sleep of my night. Right now I still have two hours left for the greatest sleep And I started telling myself that story and, wouldn't you know it, I ended up. I had the best two hours of sleep after telling myself that story And I thought that's an interesting thing where that matches up with this article we were talking about in the Wall. Street Journal mastering your mental images can make your day And I thought, if I would really emotionally get you know, I would create joy out of waking up at 442 because I knew that I was gonna, with certainty, have the two best hours of the night. Dan Sullivan Yeah well, what you've created, mr Jackson, is a self milking placebo. Dean Jackson Exactly right, yeah, but I wonder if you tried to play. I mean, this would be interesting to try replacing your Celesta with that story. Dan Sullivan But Sonata, Sonata is the genus of Sonata And it's not called that on the prescription because it's generic. But anyway, anyway. Sure, i mean we do that. I mean as entrepreneurs we have a natural gift for this, You know, I mean, you know. I think this is a commitment to something you don't have the capability for yet. Right right right, yeah, you're committing to a future jump in, you know, in performance and which will be a new capability. But when you commit, you don't have the capability And that requires courage. You know that requires courage to and, yeah, it's an interesting. You know it's an interesting, but you know more and more. I think that whether you're happy or not happy in the 21st century is the mind games that you have learned to play with yourself. Dean Jackson Yes. Dean Jackson I think that's really. That's one of the, that's one of the core found. Imagine if you applied yourself imagining this outcome. Dan Sullivan Yeah, yeah, you just weren't going to apply yourself to her goals. Dean Jackson Right. That's right. Dan Sullivan Yeah, I can, Yeah, and I think entrepreneurs are asked in you know the early years, and especially when they're in the school system, to apply themselves to some other people's goals for them. And at a certain point they say well, i don't get paid for that, i don't get paid for applying myself to other people's goals, that's right. Why don't I just come up with my own goals and apply myself to them? Okay? And I bet doing it my way lets me make 100 times more lifetime income than the teacher would. Dean Jackson Yeah, right. Dan Sullivan I'll never make any money that way. Dean Jackson Yeah. Dan Sullivan Yeah, i mean to a certain extent there's such a disconnect now And Peter Diamonis and I talked about it on Friday that a 18-year-old today anywhere in North America probably elsewhere that if you get a 10-week course in welding, you know and you get a certificate at the end of the first year, you'll make $60,000 here. Yeah, because there's such a demand now that we get welders into the reindustrialization and re-manufacturing of North America right now. All requires welding somewhere along the line. And meanwhile, if you go to four years of university, you know, regardless of the university, you probably didn't make any money during the four years, or minimal money during the four years, and probably you're running some sort of debt at the four years And meanwhile the 18-year-old who went into welding could be making $80,000, $90,000, $100,000 by the time you graduate, and then you've learned for four years things that don't make as much as a welder. Dean Jackson Yes, that's exactly right. Dan Sullivan And I think there's a shift because the incoming freshman class in the US, the difference between 2021 and 2022 was four million fewer freshmen coming into the first year of college. That's a big number Wow is that right. Dean Jackson right compared to how many normally come into the freshman. Dan Sullivan Well, four million more. Dean Jackson Oh yeah, but I mean that sounds like it couldn't be. Dean Jackson Well, it's a big number. I mean there's a lot of college freshmen. Yeah, it's a big number. No, no it would be. Dan Sullivan probably I'll have to check the numbers, but it would be, somewhere, and then it would be at least 25% at the very least to be 25% was missing because there's a disconnect about what they're learning and what they know gets paid for in the marketplace. You don't have to have a PhD to know the difference between what you get paid for, and I think parents are seeing this and I think the teenagers are seeing this and the words passing through the ranks it's a crack for the most part, going to university for four years is a crack And they say, yeah, but there's a socializing process that goes on that's ultimately very, very valuable. And I said, yeah, but your notion of how I should be socialized doesn't agree with my notion of how I should be socialized. Wow yeah. Dean Jackson That's something. when you look at that, you'll want me to apply myself to mindsets I don't agree to. Dean Sullivan I don't agree with. Dean Jackson That's why you are in the center. Imagine if you applied yourself. Dean Sullivan Yeah, that's all part of it. Dean Jackson I think that's an interesting thing, that kids, or we as people, that you are. An integral part of this is that it's. I heard someone parsing out the words of row, row, row your boat. That's the secret to life is row, row, row your boat And gently down the stream. You know that's really the key to life. Not in the hokey pokey, i guess right, one number one. Dan Sullivan it's your boat. Number two. you're going downstream. that upstream, that's exactly right. Yeah, not much growing required to go downstream, right. Dean Jackson That's kind of. I think if you could argue that, saying you know, going in your unique ability, you know and row row. Row is to continue actually doing something. It's not just float, float, float your way down the stream, it's row, row, row. You're actually doing something, you know. Dan Sullivan Yeah, it doesn't say you're the only one rowing either. Dean Jackson Right, that's true, that's right. Get everybody on board. Yeah, it's so funny, i love other things like that. Dan Sullivan Well, you know I mean. The interesting thing is, this always happens when you have the sudden emergence of a new territory and it's creating opportunities. It's creating wealth opportunities, achievement opportunities, you know, and freedom opportunities than the old territory, did you know? But this happens repeatedly, i mean over the centuries, over the millennia. There's always the old territory and the new territory, and then the people who make the money are the people who can learn on both sides and create an entirely new value creation proposition that lets other people make the transition. Yeah, for example, you and Joe doing I Love Marketing. Well, this would have been meaningless probably 30 years ago. Yeah. Dean Jackson I mean, there was no there was no capability. Dan Sullivan There was no capability for people to take action and get results with what you were recommending, that's true. Dean Jackson That's what's encouraging, that's kind of the, you know, when I was really looking at the 25-year framework and putting it in perspective with my plus three to that three years to get to 60 and then my next 25-year chapter starting at 60, that 28 years I started looking back 28 years ago and realized every single thing that is the biggest things right now weren't even in existence then And so encouraging when you think about, you know, the richest money, the thing the richest probably five or six people in the world weren't even didn't even start on their built all their wealth in that same period of time, And so that's kind of encouraging you know. Yeah, i like that a lot And that's kind of a. That's a. So you realize well what a nice meaty period of time that is. And of course you know, looking back, there's no way that we could have predicted 25 years ago what, or 28 years ago what a podcast was, or that everybody you know you'd have an instant and available access to so much of the world's information like that. You know it wasn't even wasn't even a thing. We were definitely mainland oriented Yeah. Dan Sullivan There's no question. I mean, how many coach clients have podcasts, even though? I've you know they've been listening to my podcast, they've been listening to your podcast and but hardly any of them are you know, I think it comes down to the that it's a lack of They don't have the confidence to do it. But the only way out of no confidence is to make a commitment that you're going to get the capability. Okay, you know, by this time next year I'm going to launch a podcast series. Now, who's the how? who helps me do that? Yeah? Dean Jackson Yeah. Dan Sullivan Because you don't have to do it. I mean, there's all sorts of talent around in the world who know. I mean there's two million podcast series as of January this year and probably a lot more six months later. And all I did was start in with Joe and get the ropes And I said well, i think I can create another series. And you know and that was with Peter Diamandis I've had a couple of years with Joe to get the feel for it And we started with Peter Diamandis and you know it's great, you know it's great. And I have you know I have seven, you know seven regular podcasts, including our own here. Yeah, I mean it was like we were having lunch at Los Solect in Toronto And you know I brought up the idea of that procrastination is actually a form of wisdom And you said we should do a podcast on this. And I said and I said when will we start? He said what are you doing tomorrow? And tomorrow we had a complete podcast. And all I had to do was make a phone call And that was it, you know, and we had a podcast And you know, but podcasts are full-fledged cloud-landing capabilities. Dean Jackson Yeah, yeah, this is. I've had a great you know. You look at those, the taking action, the just doing the things I had to, thanks to my you know, more deemed on less screen time focus. Over the last couple of weeks I've had a really productive couple of weeks I was in the middle of. I already started a lead generation workshop that I do by Zoom And the focus, for weeks and we focus on setting up a lead generation system for your business And we do four Tuesdays And I decided to go through the process with the people who I'm going through the workshop with to demonstrate. So one of the things that we talk about is, once we identify who your ideal target audience is, who's your ideal, your ideal prospect, then we start thinking about what would be the book that they would most definitely want to have in their, in their possession, in their collection. And so we go through a whole process of identifying, go through a book title formulas workshop where I, you know, describe the different types of book titles And have them do the exercise of creating what I call a word palette, where they think of all of the words and phrases and hopes and dreams and fears you know, all the sound bites that are going on in somebody's head, and so one of the title formulas is what we call a just do it title, which is it does what it says And you're going to do. What it says on the cover, like stop your divorce or think and grow rich is, are the types of action. That's what I'm going to do compelling offers, compelling offers, and so yeah so I wrote a site, i did the workshop, i did the process with them And I created a book, a book called convert more leads at what to say to prospects so they all convert themselves. And had a nice cover of imagery of a guy on a boat on a lake and he's had his hands behind his head and the fish are just jumping in his back. That's the, that's the imagery that we did. So I created that as the cover And then in the next seven days I created the whole book. I did the reminder of being when we were in London, you know, having that conversation. I went through the whole process of brainstorm where I brainstormed all the content and set it up into the chapters and I made a great outline. And I then went into the studio and I recorded what was essentially the audiobook version, i think. Say chapter one, begin with the end in mind, and then I would talk through my talking points for chapter one, and then I said chapter two and the title of chapter two, and so I created all the raw, all the raw audio by just talking about what I wanted to say. I had that recorded And then I sent I didn't do it, but one at the studio, sent the audio to someone on my team, jack, who then took the audio, got a transcript, set up the Google doc, did a first pass edit to turn it into you know, clean it up for written kind of format, and sent it back to me. And then I was able to go in and in a period of 50 minute, focus finders edit the written transcript into the finished form of the book And it's nice. It's a great outcome. And all the while I was doing that, i was already running ads for it. I set up the Facebook ads and generated now 293 ads of leads of people who want the book for about $3 each. You know it's a whole thing. It was such a great like during the process to actually go through with people and demonstrate what can be, what can be done. You know, yeah. Dan Sullivan Well, you know the, you know, you know how to create the book. You know I mean the idea, do you? have a copy, yet You're going to run off 20 copies and send them out to your friends so you can get the, of course. Dean Jackson Yeah. Dan Sullivan Yeah, Send them up, because I'll you know consume it and absolutely. Dean Jackson Yeah. Dan Sullivan I'll tell you five or 10 things that reminds me of them. Perfect, i love it. Dean Jackson Send it back to you That becomes version one and then with the input and the extension I can make version two and. but it's a nice meaty book. It's really good, really good content I'm happy with that. Dan Sullivan Yeah what's the idea? So I got version. Yeah, And I tell people, you know you can call 90 minute book and you can get a first draft of your book, get 20 or 30 copies and get it out to 20 or 30 people and then make your readers part of the design team. Dean Jackson That's exactly the whole purpose. That's exactly it, yeah. Yeah. Dan Sullivan People work for five years five years writing a book and they never, let a potential reader. First of all, they're not even clear about who the potential reader is. And you know, and my you know, i always start with one person as my potential reader and I do sort of a DOS in my mind about what the dangers, opportunities and strengths of this one person and I write the book and I do it. you know I do do that. People say, well, I want the book to be forever, and I said, well, I have a different approach, I want to be for one person. Right, because if I nail that, if I nail that they, then you know, the one person I want is a, an entrepreneur who is already successful, who's talented, who's ambitious, and from now on, they want 10 times more freedom in their lives Freedom of money, freedom of time, money, relationship and purpose. I said I just write the book for that person. Dean Jackson Well, you know, about? Dan Sullivan what? about school teachers? I said, not interested What about government bureaucrats Not interested. What about corporate employees? Not interested. What about non-profit organization? I said I can't even say the two words to myself. It depresses me. Dean Jackson Right, exactly. We have doctors who have non-profits. Dan Sullivan We have doctors who have non-profits And they say, well, can I, as a non-profit organization, be in your future? I said I can't even allow those two words to be said And I'm a workshop of mine, i said non-profit in the entrepreneurial world means something totally, totally different. For you know, i didn't get that. Can you try again? No, siri, siri. You know what Siri's main saying to me is? I didn't quite get that. Dean Jackson I didn't quite get that. Dan Sullivan I didn't quite get that. They say well, of course you are, you're not a person. A person would get it, You're just an algorithm and not a very pleasant one to us, with that Never been useful. I've always been a bother, so that's my take on it. Yeah, anyway, i want to tell you a little project we've got. You know, joe Stothe, do you, did you? Yeah Well, joe came to Genius while you were there by Zoom, and he gave a really great presentation on what his AI newsletter does, and so I had about eight things I was looking for at that meeting and he checked off seven of the boxes and I told him so. And he says and I said so, why don't we get going? And so we have. So we've sent out, we've sent out three of his AI newsletters and, just for the listeners here at the newsletter, that writes itself. So you put in some input or prompts and that is that your thought leaders that you follow in the world and you have your, you let them take advantage of things that you have that are already out in the internet And they put together a newsletter and I liked the content. I didn't like the layout. So I put in a lot of input about design characteristics. That would be consistent with coach stuff And we have certain design roles for everything that we do and I just applied them to the newsletter and we have a project manager, linda Spencer, who is overall a haunch of this, and we sent it out. So in the first three episodes first episode, we got a 56 open rate. Second one, we got a 62 open rate. Third one, we got a 66 open rate. So that's the point to keep getting the open rate. Dean Jackson Yeah, where do I find up for this? Dan Sullivan Yeah, future, future, future scope. So just type in and, and it's a wonderful thing, and so it goes out, and then it analyzes all the feedback from the first article and then it designs the second one, which we scrutinize from an editorial standpoint, and make adjustments, and it goes back out. But more and more, what it's joining in Cloudlandia is who you want to be talking to with the? who you want to be talking to, what do they want to be hearing from you? Okay, so it keeps refining that the message is right for the, for the mainer, but yeah, really fun. Dean Jackson I knew about future scope and daily AI, but where do. I find up for your your newsletter. Dan Sullivan Spark. It's called Spark. We'll send it out to you. I don't, i can't do that, you know I've got a specialized who, but we'll send it out. send it out to you. Dean Jackson And, by the way, great Yeah. Dan Sullivan You're. You're welcome as a columnist because all the people I mean I have a. You know I'll have a one or two sections on the newsletter, but the other four or five are coach. They're free zone, free zone clients. Dean Jackson Yeah, yeah, love it, love it. Dan Sullivan And you can, you can put in, you know you can. For example, you can talk about your new book. You know, brainstorm, brainstorm. Yeah, so you can give a interview, you know, you can give an advance notice of what brainstorm is all about and just put it in as a blog and we'll just put it right in the newsletter. Okay, perfect, i like it. Dean Jackson Well, this is all very exciting, yeah. I like the things that can do where you don't have to do, the stuff you know where you're using well, think about dailyai as a whole. Dan Sullivan Think about producing a newsletter every two weeks, yeah, where you're starting from scratch every two weeks and you don't even have any sense how the ones you've sent out already are actually landing. You know, yeah, the only difference between a bad newsletter idea and a good newsletter is your rate of open and click through. Dean Jackson That's true, yeah, and respond Yeah. Dan Sullivan There's feedback, you know, and so. so, anyway, anyway, and I wonder what Vladimir Putin is doing today. Dean Jackson I wonder the same thing. Dan Sullivan He's got a lot of material for food of thought over the last five or six days, you know. Dean Jackson Amen Yeah. Dan Sullivan I mean they got within 125 miles, you know they had, you know, a couple of hundred in our armed carriers and that, and they got within 125 miles of Moscow and that's serious business, you know. And it goes to go the other way and the war is coming to them. So anyway, but you know it's easier to not start a war than it is to start a war, because once you start a war the enemy has a vote, you know, and anyway. But but this is a lot. He did three. He does really great YouTube. You know five to eight YouTube and he did three of them yesterday, yesterday just giving you a structure on, you know the potential uprising, probably the best military force in the Russian army, which is the Wagner group, and the head of Wagner says you know we're. We've decided that the entire military leadership in Russia is incompetent and, worse than that, they're criminally corrupt and we cannot possibly win this war unless we get rid of the top military leadership and you know demonstrating words, So follow me This way, yeah. So anyway, we're. Anyway. It's interesting. But Peter D Amonus said that he felt that Russia was collapsing as a country and that this is you know. They were supposed to have the second most powerful military in the world and it's debatable whether they would qualify to be in the top 10. And you know so lots of things, and you know so anyhow what a wonderful world, what a wonderful world we live in. Dean Jackson Did I hear you say you're going on vacation. Now It's starting. Yeah, Let's be. Let's be cottage time by now. Dan Sullivan Yeah, but from the cottage. next Sunday, if you're free, i will call you. Dean Jackson I am free. Yes, i would hope I'm going to play that Awesome. I'm very excited about that. Yeah. Dan Sullivan Yeah, yeah So that'd be good And we'll learn more about your 50, your 50, you know your 50 men Yeah. Because you had already created Jackson Jackson times, which are 10 minutes, which are 10. Dean Jackson Jack's units. Dan Sullivan Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think this is a threat to the US dollar as the reserve currency, but I think it's substantially good for you. Dean Jackson I agree, that's what. Dean Sullivan I'm most useful reserve currency. Dean Jackson That's right, and I have it in abundance. Dan Sullivan Yeah. Dean Jackson I was talking about that. Dan Sullivan Because do you see the dollars not going to be reserve currency? And I said, well, whoever replaces it? make sure you have the greatest Navy in the world, the greatest Air Force in the world and the greatest fighting, because that's the muscle that makes the dollar the reserve currency. If you don't have the, you know, the armed force to reinforce your way around the world, you can't do the reserve currency. Dean Jackson Yeah, exactly. Dan Sullivan Yeah. Okay, alrighty, that was fantastic. Dean Jackson I will talk to you next weekend. Yep.

This podcast hit paid subscribers' inboxes on March 29. It dropped for free subscribers on April 1. To receive future pods as soon as they're live, and to support independent ski journalism, please consider an upgrade to a paid subscription.WhoNick Polumbus, President of Whitefish Mountain Resort, MontanaRecorded onJanuary 13, 2023About WhitefishClick here for a mountain stats overviewOwned by: Winter Sports, Inc.Pass affiliations: NoneReciprocal pass partners:* 3 days each at Great Divide, Loveland, Mt. Hood Meadows* 5 days at Red LodgeLocated in: Whitefish, MontanaClosest neighboring ski areas: Blacktail (1 hour, 15 minutes), Fernie (2 hours), Turner (2 hours, 30 minutes), Kimberley (2 hours, 45 minutes), Montana Snowbowl (3 hours), Lookout Pass (3 hours) – travel times will vary considerably pending weather, border traffic, and time of yearBase elevation: 4,464 feetSummit elevation: 6,817 feetVertical drop: 2,353 feetSkiable Acres: roughly 3,000 acresAverage annual snowfall: nearly 300 inchesTrail count: 128 (8 expert, 49 advanced, 40 intermediate, 25 beginner, 6 terrain parks)Lift count: 15­­ (1 six-pack, 3 high-speed quads, 2 fixed-grip quads, 6 triples, 2 T-bars, 1 carpet)Why I interviewed himYou can be forgiven for thinking that Epkon chewed them all up. That the only ski areas worth skiing are those stacked on the industry's twin magic carpets. These shuttles to something grand, to what you think of when you think about the mountains. Ikon got Jackson and Palisades and the Cottonwoods and Taos. Epic got Vail and Telluride and Heavenly and Park City. What more could be left? What more could you need?You probably need this. Whitefish. Or Big Mountain, as you will. Three thousand acres of Montana steep and white. Plenty of snow. Plenty of lifts. A new sixer to boom you up the hillside. The rootin'-tootin' town below. A C-note gets you a lift ticket and change to buy a brew. No bitterness in the exchange.It's hard to say exactly if Whitefish is an anachronism or an anomaly or a portent or a manifestation of wanton Montana swagger. Among big, developed U.S. mountains, it certainly stands alone.This model is extinct, I thought. Coercion-by-punishment being the preferred sales tactic of the big-mountain conglomerates. “Four lift tickets for today, Mr. Suburban Dad who decided to shepherd the children to Colorado on a last-minute spring break trip? That will be $1,200. Oh does that seem like a lot to you? Well that will teach you not to purchase access to skiing 13 months in advance.”So far, Whitefish has resisted skiing's worst idea. Good for them. Better for them: this appears to be a winning business strategy. Skier visits have climbed annually for more than a decade. Look at a map and you'll see that's more impressive than it sounds. Whitefish is parked at the top of America, near nothing, on the way to nothing. You have to go there on purpose. And with Epic and Ikon passes tumbling out of every other skier's jacket pockets, you need a special story to bait that journey.So what's going on here? Why hasn't this mountain done what every other mountain has done and joined a pass? Like the comely maiden at the ball, Whitefish could have its pick: Epic, Ikon, Mountain Collective, Indy. An instant headliner and pass-mover. But the single life can be appealing. Do as you please, chill with who you want, set your own agenda. That's Whitefish's game. And I'm watching.What we talked aboutWhy Whitefish typically calls it a season with a 100-inch summit base depth; Front Range Colorado and I-70 in the 1970s; how Colorado and Utah snow and traffic impacts skier traffic at Whitefish; how a Colorado kid enters the ski industry in Vermont; a business turnaround at Whitefish; “get the old fish out of the fridge”; how Whitefish has stayed affordable as it's modernized; why the ski area changed its name from “Big Mountain” and how that landed locally; who owns Whitefish and how committed they are to independence; the new Snow Ghost Express sixer; ripple effects on other chairlifts after Snow Ghost popped live; record skier visits; snow ghosts; the best marketing line of Polumbus' career; a big-time potential future expansion; the mountain's recent chairlift shuffles; why chairs 5 and 8 don't go to the summit; the art of terrain-pod building; why Bad Rock isn't running this winter; thoughts on the future of Tenderfoot and the Heritage T-bar; Why Whitefish lift tickets cost a fraction of what similarly sized mountains charge; an amazing season pass stat; the mountain's steady rise of skier visits; and much love for the Indy Pass even if it “isn't a good fit for us.”Why I thought that now was a good time for this interviewWell I actually thought that January was a great time for this interview. Which is why I recorded it then. And here it is in your inbox, a mere 11 weeks later. Which is a bad look for me and a bad look for the brand and not very considerate to my guest. I'll offer an explanation, but not an excuse: the sound quality on this recording was, um, not good. Most podcasts take two to four hours to edit. This one required 10 times that. So why didn't I just blast it out back in January? Since so much of what I write is reaction to breaking news, every hour I spend on a pod is an hour I'm not delivering more urgent content. And most Storm Skiing Podcasts are fairly evergreen. Skiers binge them on long roadtrips – I know this because they tell me so and because the numbers keep going up on eps that I dropped back in 2019.But none of that matters to you or to the team at Whitefish, and it shouldn't. I know that a lot of you have been waiting for this one since I started hyping it last year, and this long delay was disappointing. I get it. One core promise of The Storm, however, is that I will continually improve the product and the process. So I'll own this one and refine my workflow to prevent future delays. Sorry.But, to address the actual purpose of this section: why did I think that now was a good time for this interview? It's everything I said above. Alterra has copied Vail's ridiculous day-ticket price structure, and Boyne and Powdr aren't far behind. Even little Mountain Capital Partners is allowing the robots to price-surge Arizona Snowbowl tickets past the $300 mark on peak days. Whitefish doesn't exactly stand alone in resisting these price schemes – plenty of other ski areas will still sell you a walk-up lift ticket that costs less than a heart transplant. But none are as large, as high-profile, and as modern as Whitefish – at least not in our beloved U.S. America. Like some brash hipster rocking a Walkman on his fixed-gear bicycle, Whitefish has made the once-pedestrian into the novel. Innovation by staying in place.The Epic Pass gets a lot of well-deserved credit for stabilizing skiing by front-loading pass sales to springtime, insulating revenue from weather-dependency. But Vail and Alterra have cast the $250-plus lift ticket as an essential piece of their passes' success. As though no one would buy the pass if they knew they could still go ski Beaver Creek for $100 anytime they liked. There is a brutal logic to this. You're only going to buy a $275 lift ticket one time. Then you'll go looking for hacks. But the process is demeaning and embarrassing, like you're the last guy to the gas pump in the apocalypse.I wrote a story on Whitefish's business model back in 2021, profiling both that mountain and Jay Peak. Both are run, perhaps coincidentally, by headmen who are fist-bump bros that came up together at late-ASC Killington in the ‘90s: Polumbus and Jay Peak's Steve Wright. I don't know how much they brought their brains together to arrive at similar ticket menus, but I know from interacting with both that they share the same kind of heart. A down-to-earth humility and empathy that considers humans in the business equation, rather than just making them the number at the transactional finish line.Why you should ski WhitefishDid you see the part above about 3,000 acres of terrain and 300 inches of average annual snowfall? Yeah, go enjoy that.But let me harp on the lift ticket thing just a little bit more. If your boys are anything like mine, they are more likely to translate War and Peace into Braille than they are to heed your advice to purchase lift tickets 10 months before your next ski trip. I say this not because my friends are brilliant, but because they are lazy a******s who need their wives to label their underwear drawers lest they be forced to go commando for months on end. So if you're planning, say, “Gary's 50th Birthday Ski Adventure,” you have choices: Heavenly (South Tahoe!), Jackson (Jackson!), Telluride (Telluride!), etc. My buddies, mostly Three-Day Dans, are going to ignore my clear and repeated reminders to purchase Epic Day or Mountain Collective Passes, and are instead going to commandeer their monthly car payment to cover the cost of two days' skiing. And then be all shocked and annoyed about it. Whitefish, where even last-minute skiing runs less than $100 per day, is the solution to such gatherings.That's an edge case, I realize. And surely there are attributes of skiing Whitefish beyond the low cost at the turnstile: the terrain, the views, the snowghosts, the unpretentious vibe, the snowfall, the enormous breadth of it all. But the price thing matters enormously. If you have an Ikon Pass and you're passing through Park City, you're probably not stopping to scope the place out. Throwing down $269 for a day of skiing seems a little stupid if you have unlimited skiing on a $1,000-plus pass that you already own. But if you're rolling from Sun Peaks down to Big Sky and you want to sidebar to Whitefish, well, that lift ticket's not going to kill you in the same way. That sort of pop-around spontaneity defined a big piece of the road-trip ski scene for decades, and it's fading. Too bad.  Podcast NotesOn American Skiing Company and S-K-IPolumbus refers to the S-K-I and American Skiing Company (ASC) Merger, which roughly coincided with the beginning of his Killington tenure in 1996. Check this crazy portfolio, as documented by New England Ski History:At the time of the deal, both companies only had New England ski areas, with LBO Resort Enterprises' portfolio composed of Attitash Bear Peak, NH, Cranmore, NH, Sugarbush, VT, and Sunday River, ME, while S-K-I Ltd. owned Haystack, VT, Killington, VT, Mt. Snow, VT, Sugarloaf, ME, and Waterville Valley, NH.Can you imagine if that crew had held into the megapass era? Instead, they are split between seven different owners:The coalition didn't hold for long. The Justice department made ASC sell Cranmore and Waterville Valley immediately. And even though the company was like “F you Brah” and purchased Pico five minutes later, and went on to purchase The Canyons (then Wolf Mountain, formerly Park West, now part of Park City), Steamboat, and Heavenly, the whole enterprise disintegrated in slow motion over the next dozen years. New England Ski History documents the company's arc comprehensively:On lift shufflesWhitefish moves lifts around its mountain like some of us re-organize our living room couches. Check out the 2005 front-side trailmap on the left. By 2007, the Glacier Chaser Express had been shortened and slid looker's left to replace the old Swift Creek double, and the Easy Rider triple had moved down-mountain and become Elk Meadows. The new Easy Rider, a quad seated across the mountain, was also a relocated machine, from Moab Scenic Skyway, according to Lift Blog.In 2017, Whitefish moved Glacier View, a 1981 CTEC triple, to a new location and renamed it East Rim:Then last year, Whitefish moved the Hellroaring triple looker's left across the mountain. Note the changes in the trail network below Lacey Lane, which ran under the old line:Amazingly, that was the second time Whitefish had relocated that same chair. It began life in 1985 as the Big Creek chairlift, which served the North Side in this circa 1995 trailmap:The Storm publishes year-round, and guarantees 100 articles per year. This is article 27/100 in 2023, and number 413 since launching on Oct. 13, 2019. Want to send feedback? Reply to this email and I will answer (unless you sound insane, or, more likely, I just get busy). You can also email skiing@substack.com.The Storm explores the world of lift-served skiing all year long. Join us. 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“They say not to judge a book by its cover but what about an album? It was the busy, fascinating album cover of Jackson Jackson's 2007 debut, The Fire is on the Bird, that first caught my attention. The album itself turned out to be one of the most interesting and eclectic recordings I'd ever heard. I've enjoyed it ever since, but I know it's as challenging a record as it is interesting. All of which makes it perfect fodder for discussion on The Album Files.” - Matt For episode 6 Abby picked Fun.'s Some Nights What we've been listening to lately... Matt: Ben Folds - Winslow Gardens, Stormzy - Please, Stormzy - Give It To The Water Iain: The Wonder Years - There, There, Jóhann Jóhannsson - The sun's gone dim and the sky's turned black, JAMBINAI - from the place been erased ft. swja Abby: Lana del Rey - A&W, Gorillaz - Tormenta ft. Bad Bunny, Gorillaz - Oil ft Stevie Nicks, The National - New Order T-Shirt You can find a playlist of the music we discussed in episode 5 of The Album Files here. You can find us on social media @abimickey, @iaintreloar and @climbingcyclist.

"I chose the Guillemots' debut album, Through the Windowpane, for this episode. An eclectic offering from 2006, there's a daring sense of adventure to this, and a personal connection through what it represented to me at the time. It's also a journey – a messy, chaotic and beautiful one." -Iain Stay up to date and listen to Matt's pick before episode 5: Jackson Jackson's The Fire Is on the Bird PLUS for episode 7 we will do our first listener-suggested episode! Tweet at us @TheAlbumFiles and let us know what you want us to listen to. What we've been listening to lately... Matt: Dave Matthews Band - Madman's Eyes, Little Simz - NO THANK YOU, Ben Barnes - 11:11, Lizzy McAlpine - ceilings music video Iain: Sadness - Kiss in October, Paramore - You First, Phoebe Bridgers/Christian Lee Hutson Abby: The 1975 - Paris You can find a playlist of the music we discussed in episode 4 of The Album Files here. You can find us on social media @abimickey, @iaintreloar and @climbingcyclist.

Jackson Family Wines is at the forefront of many sustainability efforts as one of the world's largest wine companies, with >40 wineries. Though they have made significant efforts in renewable energy, climate change, and social impact; they have also done a lot with waste prevention and green purchasing. Katie Jackson, a 2nd generation family member, leads these efforts to become more sustainable and describes some of the major programs they've undertaken. Detailed Show Notes: Intro from Anna Brittain of Napa Green Only 30% of glass is recycled, and 30-50% of emissions are from packaging and distributionKatie's background - 2nd generation, worked in multiple departments but joined the sustainability team in 2011 after it was founded in 2008JFW backgroundFounded in 1982 as Kendall JacksonInvested in high-quality vineyards across the stateFounded Cambria (1986) and Stonestreet (1989), now >40 wineries (mostly CA, 3 Oregon, Chile, South Africa, France, Italy, & 2 in Australia)Broad sustainability programs with four current focus areas: Social impact, including DEI - has an internal team called “idea alliance” to develop new ways to improve diversityCarbon/climate change - most difficult goals - 50% reduction by 2030, climate positive by 2050Farming/regenerative farmingWater management2015 - publicly released a comprehensive plan w/ 11 different focus areas, including Zero Waste and getting more growers to be sustainableSustainability investments and ROIInvested $18.5M since 2015Biggest spend in renewable energy (primarily solar - powers ~30% of winemaking needs, installing a new wind turbine which will generate ~5% of needs)Generated $19.5M in savings and gov't grantsLightweighting of glass has saved $1M/year in glass and ~$500k/year in transportationSolar initially had a 6-year paybackNo set corporate threshold for sustainability investment ROISustainability teamTwo full-time staff~80 people in 9 working groups volunteer ~3-4 hrs/month to work on sustainability initiativesGreen purchasing - developed preferred purchasing plan, looking at more environmentally friendly materialsE.g., the sales team is looking at biodegradable POS neckers made w/ seedsWaste prevention - critical for climate change goals, focused more on wineries currentlyAchieved

INTRODUCTION: Ryan Murphy and Netflix have collaborated to bring us a shocking rendition of the life and times of notorious serial killer + cannibal, Jeffrey Dahmer (Evan Peters). Jeffrey Dahmer was responsible for the murder of 17, mostly black and brown, young men and young boys. Dahmer would drug them, kill them, harvest their body parts and eat them. This series documents Dahmer's internal struggle, as well as, how the police failed everyone despite multitudinous warning signs. Please join Demi Wylde, the host of the Hookup Horror Stories podcast and De'Vannon, the host of the Sex, Drugs and Jesus podcast as they go through a review of the entire series. THEMES FOUND WITHIN THIS SERIES (But not limited to):  ·      Racism·      Homophobia·      Nature Vs. Nurture·      Hookup Culture Dangers·      Cannibalism ·      The Humanity In Dahmer·      Implications Of Dahmer's Childhood·      Grossly Flawed Legal System·      Dahmer's Fan Base·      Dahmer's Copycats·      Forgiveness vs. Unforgiveness  CONNECT WITH DEMI: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/demitriwylde   CONNECT WITH DE'VANNON: Website: https://www.SexDrugsAndJesus.comWebsite: https://www.DownUnderApparel.comYouTube: https://bit.ly/3daTqCMFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/SexDrugsAndJesus/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sexdrugsandjesuspodcast/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TabooTopixLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/devannonPinterest: https://www.pinterest.es/SexDrugsAndJesus/_saved/Email: DeVannon@SexDrugsAndJesus.com  DE'VANNON'S RECOMMENDATIONS: ·      Pray Away Documentary (NETFLIX)o  https://www.netflix.com/title/81040370o  TRAILER: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk_CqGVfxEs ·      OverviewBible (Jeffrey Kranz)o  https://overviewbible.como  https://www.youtube.com/c/OverviewBible ·      Hillsong: A Megachurch Exposed (Documentary)o  https://press.discoveryplus.com/lifestyle/discovery-announces-key-participants-featured-in-upcoming-expose-of-the-hillsong-church-controversy-hillsong-a-megachurch-exposed/ ·      Leaving Hillsong Podcast With Tanya Levino  https://leavinghillsong.podbean.com  ·      Upwork: https://www.upwork.com·      FreeUp: https://freeup.net VETERAN'S SERVICE ORGANIZATIONS ·      Disabled American Veterans (DAV): https://www.dav.org·      American Legion: https://www.legion.org ·      What The World Needs Now (Dionne Warwick): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHAs9cdTqg INTERESTED IN PODCASTING OR BEING A GUEST?: ·      PodMatch is awesome! This application streamlines the process of finding guests for your show and also helps you find shows to be a guest on. The PodMatch Community is a part of this and that is where you can ask questions and get help from an entire network of people so that you save both money and time on your podcasting journey.https://podmatch.com/signup/devannon  TRANSCRIPT: Dahmer[00:00:00]You're listening to the sex drugs and Jesus podcast, where we discuss whatever the fuck we want to! And yes, we can put sex and drugs and Jesus all in the same bed and still be all right at the end of the day. My name is De'Vannon and I'll be interviewing guests from every corner of this world as we dig into topics that are too risqué for the morning show, as we strive to help you understand what's really going on in your life.There is nothing off the table and we've got a lot to talk about. So let's dive right into this episode.De'Vannon: Ryan Murphy and Netflix have collaborated to bring us a shocking rendition of the life in times of notorious serial killer and cannibal. Jeffrey Dahmer, played by Evan Peters. Jeffrey Dahmer was responsible for the murder of 17. Mostly black and brown young men and boys. Dahmer would drug them, kill them, and harvest their body parts and eat them.This serious documents doer's internal struggle, as well as [00:01:00] how the police failed everyone, despite Multitudinous warning signs. Please joined Demitri Wylde. The host of the Hookup Horror Stories podcast and myself as we go through a review of this entire Netflix series.Demi: Welcome to Hookup Horror Stories. I'm W Wild. You're Resident Sexual deviant. De'Vannon: Hello, bitches. My name is Danna and I hosted Sex Drugs in Jesus podcast. How you doing? Demi: How you doing? It is spooky season. So we are here talking about the show that is taking the internet by storm. Ryan Murphy's latest Netflix show Monster, the Jeffrey Daher story De'Vannon: C.All the while I was watching that Lady Gaga song Monster Within my Head, That boy is a monster and bitch. Did he not give meaning to the [00:02:00] term Eat Your Heart Out. Demi: Eat Your Heart Out. Actually, I think secretly that song was partially about him. De'Vannon: Lady Gaga song. Yeah, yeah, Demi: yeah. I could see that. And behold, I think like she was using him as like a reference to, you know, talk about a guy that she was, you know, , who De'Vannon: was a monster to her.Freaked out by I was, I was playing back the lyrics in my head. I asked my girlfriend if she seen you run before. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. I have so much to say about all of this. Demi: Yeah. We've got a lot to talk about. This is a very extra special kind of crossover episode that I've never done before and I think it's really fun to talk about, especially for Halloween De'Vannon: season.Yeah. So we're doing a threeway with Jeffrey Dahmer than I ate, basically. And couldn't get any more creepier than that, but we're gonna do it because we're open minded and super freaky and so, I was inspired by Dahmer the other day. Well, inspired by the, not by him, but by the documentary, you know?Mm-hmm. , [00:03:00] and and I was like, I reached out to Deme and I was like, Girl, we need to do a show about this motherfucker. Let's talk about this. Demi was like, Let's release it on Halloween. I was like, Okay, let's, let's, let's, let's do it at the witching hour then, . That's Demi: right. That's right. Well, yeah, it, it is a witching hour.So obviously we've got our candles lit here De'Vannon: before we begin and get too far into it. I have mine that I'm going to light now. This little T light here, I'm lighting it out of respect for the people who Jeffrey Daher murdered, but not just the people he murdered, but also anybody who's departed this plane of existence in a very torturous brutal way like that.And so I don't know. Hopefully it shed some peace on them in the afterlife. Agree. And so, [00:04:00]as we say, in, in in positive energy circles for the good of all, or not at all, Demi: for the good of all, or not at all. I like that. Perfect. Amazing. Well, if you guys are watching this on video, you'll obviously receive this on both of our channels.Check it out. Boom. Otherwise just sit back and listen to what we're gonna talk about. Spoiler alerts and trigger warnings are in full effect, so get De'Vannon: ready. Yeah, it, we, we put spilling all the tea until every goddamn damn thing. So in fact, you can probably listen to this episode instead of watching the series.You feel like it cause we going through this bitch. Demi: Exactly. Well, we've got a lot to talk about so let's just get a little refresher on who Jeffrey Daher was. Shall we? De'Vannon: We shall first. He was hot. He was hot. I will say . Was he? I don't think so. Well that's cuz you really like black. [00:05:00]Demi: I mean, I'm hoping to all but like not him.First of all, he is so like plain Jane looking first of all, and second of all the glasses, the demeanor, the hair, just, I'm not feeling it at all. . De'Vannon: Now I'm talking about the younger hyn. Now I'm not talking about the older prison or whatever the fuck I'm talking about, that I'm not about the, the young one.Demi: Well, yeah, either way he, he's playing with those striped shirts, the button up. Uhuh. Can't do it. not my type of white boy. We're not gonna make you. No. So anyways, let's talk about Jeffrey Dahmer. So, Jeffrey Lionel Daher was also known as the Milwaukee Cannibal or the Milwaukee monster. He was an American serial killer and convicted sex offender who committed the murder and dismemberment of 17 men and boys between 1978 and 1991.Many of his later murders involved necrophilia, cannibalism, and the [00:06:00] permanent preservation of body parts. Typically parts of the skeleton. Although he was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, sty of personality disorder and psychotic disorder, he was convicted of 15 and 16 or 15 of the 16 murders he had committed in Wisconsin, and he was sentenced to 15 terms of life imprisonment on February 17th, 1992.Daher was later sentenced to a 16 term of life imprisonment for an additional homicide. Committed it in Ohio in 1978. On November 28th, 1994, Daher was beaten to death by Christopher Scarr, a fellow inmate at the Columbia Correctional Institution in Portage, Wisconsin. His victim's names are all Steven Mark Hicks, who is 18, Steven Walter Tomi, who was 25.James Edward d Tater, who is 14? Richard Guro, who is 22? Anthony Lee Sears is 24. Raymond Lamont Smith, who is 32. Ernest Marque, Miller 22. David Courtney Thomas, who is 22. Curtis Dorell [00:07:00] Strader. Who is 17? Err. Lindsay. Who is 19? Tony Anthony Hughes, who is 31 Conac in, Who is 14? Matt Cleveland. Turner, Who is 20?Jeremiah Benjamin Weinberger, who is 23. Oliver. Joseph Lacey, who is 24. And Joseph Arthur Bradoff, who is 25.How do we feel? De'Vannon: I was taking, taking and giving everyone a moment of silence to just like take like that set in for a moment. Yeah. How do I feel? It reminds me of, of all the vigils we see on TV after mass school shootings and stuff like that. Yeah. You know, it's like when all the, all the, all the dead coming together.I'm just seeing like, you know, all the titty bears and the flowers and the candles on the ground. That, that's the imagery I'm getting. How about you? Demi: It's a lot to take in. I, I couldn't watch the show. In normally, like, I like to binge something that's not [00:08:00] one of those bingeable shows to me. That first episode had me just like, fully, like on edge, like, and I love horror.I love true crime. I don't get squeamish a whole lot. I was very squeamish by this. It was very visceral in my opinion. I just, I was like, Oh my God, what the fuck is happening? You know? Seeing these characters play out before he, before us, the actual murders themselves being portrayed in such a way, especially by Ryan Murphy about it just made everything so much more real.You know? Cause I've already known the story. I've already known what happened, but like, just seeing it played out was like, Holy shit. Like this is a little too much at times. It's De'Vannon: all great to have a a, a story, but it's all about how you tell it baby. And so let us give credit to those who told it. Now, Evan Peters is the star of this.And then like he said, like, like, like to me, said Ryan Murphy wrote it. And then I saw the name Ian Brennan come up as a lot of the writing. There were other people who wrote it too, but [00:09:00]mainly Ian Brennan. I'm partial to Ian Brennan cuz my boyfriend's name is Ian . So I'm here for all the Ian's of the world.And Demi's, one of Demi's favorite persons, Niecy Naja was in there giving life, serving face, , . Demi: She played such a good role, and I know that Glenda was, was a real person, but that character that she played and the stuff that she experienced was actually experienced by a lot of the other people that were like in the building or other people that had interactions.So she was kind of an amalgamation of like a bunch of people. I actually remember specifically the, the instance where the, the 14 year old where he actually, you know, he drilled the head and put acid in there and he was like, you know, comatose almost, but like still, he got up and he, and he ran. And so Glenda was like, and then I think another couple people were outside and they found the boy and then the police.Sent [00:10:00] them back in with, with Daher. It was like, Oh my God, what the hell is happening here? But she was fully giving me life the entire time especially in those moments where she really like cared to, but also that she wasn't heard. You know? She like, it was so, Oh my, I can't even like verbalize it. It was De'Vannon: messed up.Oh my darling, I will do my part to guide you through this emotional journey you were about to take , so the, I had two questions for you. Yeah. Before we get into the episode breakdowns, I just wanted to know what was the most heartbreaking part for you? Was it the scene you just described or with is something d.Demi: I mean, that one was obviously a heartbreaking, cuz I know how all of 'em really heartbreaking cuz I knew how they all ended. What was the, the, the def the deaf guy? I, I'm gonna Tony Hughes, Was that his name? De'Vannon: Oh God. He went through so many men. Honey, I couldn't keep up with the names. I know. Demi: I think that was, [00:11:00] I think that was his name.I could be wrong. I apologize if I am, but I'm really bad with names anyways. But yeah, the, the deaf boy he, that one was the most heartbreaking cause I knew how it played out and it was just so sad to see, like, it was hard for me to like peel away the kinda like monster mentality versus like kind of just like the need to connect with someone, Which I think a lot of people who are like dah.Feel, So I don't wanna like sympathize with a killer, you know? But I can understand how a person just wants to be connected to another person. And I think that was the closest thing that he had was with, was with Tony. And so far from the show, I'm not sure about real life. But you know, in the show it played out that way, that they actually had dates and they actually had, you know, time spent together and they spent the night together and , it was just so heartbreaking, you know?[00:12:00] Mm-hmm. . Oh, De'Vannon: well I feel for you darling. I feel for you that, that that part was super heartbreaking. And what stood out to me was that that's the deaf guy was the one who was trying to keep a classy, He actually didn't have his legs open the moment he met Jeffrey, and he was the one I know told him no, and I thought, I wonder if, because Jeffrey didn't kill him.He thought about it. He had the drugs to put it in his drink. Mm-hmm. and he put it back up. So this is, this is when we see Jeffrey trying to fight that monster within. And I'm thinking the deaf guys is somebody who's actually telling him no. Their little note he wrote said, You have to earn me cuz he didn't talk.So he told Jeffrey, You have to earn me. And this evoked a different response from Jeffrey. Yeah. You know, we see this in men, you know, quite often if you know, if, if, if, if you let them fuck you tonight they will. But if not, you know, they may just treat you with respect instead. And so, Demi: yeah, I mean that was what was most [00:13:00] heartbreaking for me was like that, that story with him.We all know how it ended clearly, but I'm not sure if they depicted this exactly, but Several of, of his victims. He actually like, kept around, like laid around while after he killed him. So like, he, they were in his apartment for like three days or whatever. Tony, he kept around for a while before he decided to get rid of him.It is just so strange, like seeing these like, kind of like, I don't want to humanize him, but like, it's just moments of like, Oh my God. Like, I kind of feel bad. I, this, this kid had, he was doomed from the beginning. He was doomed from the beginning. His mom was crazy. His dad taught him how to do this shitDe'Vannon: I, I think kind of like a part of the point of [00:14:00] this series was to bring out his humanity, because everybody knows. You know, he's the crazy bitch who killed all these people. Mm-hmm. , but the sensitive side with his history and background to my knowledge, had never been told before. And so I'm okay with looking at a person and seeing both the evil and the good in them.Right. And so, and I think that this series did a great job with that. The second question I had for you was, what, what, And the answer might be the same, but, you know, what was the most shocking part for you? Like something that you just not see coming, like, Oh bitch. Demi: Well, I don't think, I didn't see anything coming.Okay. I think the most shocking, but also not exactly I, I knew this was gonna happen anyways, was the fact that like the police that just were completely negligent in, in taking this seriously, [00:15:00]just. Got off on it, you know, it ju it was just so fucked. And I think that was what made me so angry at the very end was just like, Oh my God.Like here is this, this predator who is going after, you know, marginalized people. And whether intentionally or not, he, he was, he was doing it that these police officers just didn't want to get involved. You know, Even though Linda was calling them all the time, seeing their weird smells or there's body, you know, I, it's just mind boggling how, how messed up that shit is and how real it is.Cause it happens to this day still. De'Vannon: Right. What, what shocked me the most was the role that his parents played in it. His mom being on all the pills and the medication, which clearly scrambled his brain chemistry and his dad. Harboring the same sort of desires, but acting him out with animals and then teaching his son how to do the same thing.That's something [00:16:00] I never saw coming. I was shocked about that. Demi: Yeah. I mean, that part, the fact that his, at the very end they were talking about keeping his brain mm-hmm. to study it, which I think would've been really great to do just for science concur. And then his dad was just like, No, we just gotta, We're done with it.We gotta De'Vannon: go. He didn't have the balls, He didn't really have a whole lot of nuts throughout the whole thing. Yeah, no, he had like a moment of nu tackiness and then he just, he just didn't wanna face the truth or whatever those results would've rendered . Good deal. Right. Demi: I think the most interesting part of it was like, it, it raised in my, in my mind the whole concept of nature versus nurture, as we know as gay people, like how much of us growing up gay, is it nature versus nurture?How much of it growing up as a, as a homicidal maniac, [00:17:00] cannibal, , how much of that is nature versus nurture? You know, you know, his mom was, was obviously was like nature right there, you know, he, that was like biological and then his dad kind of nurtured this part of him too. So like, it kind of had both ends of the spectrum.You know, It's, it's so interesting. De'Vannon: But I also wanna point out that of these 17 young men that were murdered, the majority of them were black and brown individuals. Correct? This was happening during, like, the middle of the last century, so there's a lot of racism, homophobia going on, you know, and that's, that's a theme throughout the end.I love Jackson Jackson's Tri Jesse, Reverend Jackson. Jackson is Triton appearance. Towards the end. Mm-hmm. as you mentioned though, this sort of thing does still happen today. And, and, and if I could like, make a hashtag, like and give respect to your podcast, hook up horror stories, I would say this show pretty much demonstrates the old hashtag ultimate of [00:18:00] horror story.Demi: I agree. . This is the ultimate, this is the thing that we've all been more warned about in like hookup cultures. Like, you know, don't go out on a date with anybody. You not the internet, otherwise you'll fucking be murdered. You know, or gotten your heart eating out. Literally the ultimate hookup horror story.De'Vannon: Yeah. So we're not joking in this, in this series. Y'all, Jeffrey liked to cut the boys up. I'm pretty sure he sauteed a liver, a human liver, you know, and, and he ate it like it was a goddamn Morton Steakhouse six, you know, five star restaurant. I mean, I guess, I mean, I'm laughing, I'm not laughing at it, but I don't have any other emotions to, to, I'm laughing at the how hysterical this whole thing is.Demi: I mean, if we don't laugh, we'd cry because it's so fucked up in [00:19:00] grotesque. But I think also talking about it openly and also discussing how we feel about it and using humor as a way to kind of cope. That's something I'm very familiar with. I'm, I make really, I have a very dark, twisted sense of humor. So this is definitely something I do on a regular basis.So, no, this is a safe space. I think. Anybody who's listening, I hope you guys feel the same way. This is a safe space. I think that , in addition to like the, in addition to all the, you know, horrible dismemberments and the cannibalism and keeping body parts in its fridge and freezer and stuff I think the most, one of the most crazy things about it was like he drilled their heads and then put acid in their brain in order to make living zombies.That was like his goal, because he didn't want people to leave him. He didn't want people to, like, he wanted people to be subservient and to be like, you know, [00:20:00] it's, it's so fucked up. But also it's kind of like, Oh God, you just wanted connection. You know?De'Vannon: I think that stemmed from his mother and his dad always leaving him. Yeah. Cause in the first like episodes we see his mom just got his little brother and screeched off because his mom and dad had a terrible, chaotic relationship. So people can get their heads fucked up just from the parents not getting along and shit like that.Right. This experience in my, in my own household. And that's why that was, he didn't want to be left. He didn't understand. Okay. They gotta go to work. They got something else to do. He wasn't trying to hear none of that. Oh, he heard he just wanted them to stay. He wanted them to stay, You know? But I mean, why do, when we go around and we do a whole lot of hooking up, then I think it's for the same reason, at least for me, you know, looking back when I was in and out of a different bed every night, you know, I just didn't [00:21:00] wanna be alone when I was a drug dealer, you know?And I would just give people narcotics or whatever. Just, I just didn't fucking wanna be by myself. Right. So how do we fix that? Okay. Demi: Yeah. I have no idea. , . I think it's, it's maybe being comfortable being alone has, has part to do with it. Being comfortable with being, but also not like being so alone that you go crazy.You know, reaching out to people when you need to and talking to friends, people who you trust, who are having people you trust in order to kind of alleviate some of that loneliness and, and to bring other perspectives into, into being. I wanted to bring out another serial killer that I, I found a lot of like kind of connection to Daher.And his name was Dennis Ni. He was a guy in the UK who also a gay serial killer. He didn't eat the body parts, but he did keep body parts around. [00:22:00] And his first kill was a young man. He met at a bar, brought him home, ended up just drinking and talking all night, having a great time sleeping together.I don't think they had sex, but they, they slept at the same bed, they cuddled, whatever. The next morning Dennis got up and he decided that he didn't want this boy to leave, like they all do. And he ended up strangling him while he was in bed. It's kind of that same motive where it was kind of like, you know, you just want someone to be around.I and then he also keeping of the body parts has something to do with that too. Yes. There's some sort of like trophy involved, but also kind of like more like, I have this memento of this person, you know, we still go connected to them. Yeah. So still, still still feel connected to them. Exactly. The only way Dennis Nelson got caught was just this kind of gross, but he, after a few years of like doing this and stuff and keeping body parts around the house [00:23:00] he decided to start getting rid of the stuff and he started putting it down the drainAnd anyone who's been the UK knows that plumbing in the UK sucks. And so he started putting body parts down the drain and. People in the building started finding brown water coming up and they were like drinking it and all this stuff, and they, they finally called, you know, the management, whatever. They found out that there's like these horrible body parts going up and they all tracked it back to Dennis.That's how we got caught. But I felt a lot of like kind of connection between Daher and ni. Like it was very kind like these guys had like the similar mos. They still had kind, were like fucked up in the head from the very beginning. There's still still a very troubling background too. It's just a pretty wild, both of these people had similar backgrounds and they wound up doing the same kind of thing.Was, De'Vannon: was this UK for Well, I'm, I'm, to some extent I'm pleased that eating people was a touch too far for him. He [00:24:00] just could not. Was he before Daher? During or after? Demi: Wondering 82. De'Vannon: Okay. I think Daher hit the news in like in the nineties. Mm-hmm. , they were doing currently. Demi: Okay. So this is 10 years before Daher, but actually around the same time. Cause I think Dahmer got started in 78, so Yeah. They were around the same time. De'Vannon: My lord Jesus. So, so I would wanted to issue like a word of warning, like in terms of like the, the danger of hooking up.Mm-hmm. . I just wanna like remind people that bad things do happen to people when they go behind closed doors with strangers. I get as really easy to go online and meet a fool and run off with them. I've done it and I think the sweet baby Jesus, that nothing bad ever happened, but I'm, I'm not arrogant to say that it, that it's not like it could have, It's not like I practiced discretion.I didn't tell anyone where I was going. [00:25:00] I didn't verify the person's name. I didn't verify that it was even their home that I was in. None of those things, I just trusted a stranger. . When I know like whenever people have like bad shit happen to them on hookups, usually they don't run around and tell it.Cuz everybody wants to make it seem like they have a super glorious sex life. Right. And what'll happen is when you're on these hookup apps, like that person who you always see in that square, suddenly you just won't see them anymore. Mm-hmm , that's kind of how that goes. So I'm just reminding y'all be careful.Cause in this show, some of the guys would look at a drink cuz Jeffrey would put used to put the fucking dope in the drink and they'd look at it and be like, this looks funny. And then they would just drink it anyway. Demi: Right. . So that also goes with just, just the naivete. People not knowing, people not thinking, you know, or just, eh, whatever, let's have fun, you know, whatever the case may be.Always . So I have, I have a friend who anytime that he goes somewhere, he always texts me to tell me where he is going. [00:26:00] I think it's great. It's wonderful to have a person that you, a little slot friend that you could just be like, Hey, I'm going to X this address , but you don't here, but by tomorrow I'm dead.You know, I got , I got bomber. So like, it, it's, it's very important to have those friends that you can talk to about this kind of stuff. And I think the whole purpose of like the stuff, what we do in our podcast and, and, and talking about this stuff openly and honestly, that this stuff does happen quite regularly to everyone and it is not doing anybody any good to just like, leave the stuff inside and to kind of like release that shame in a way to talk about it openly.To talk about, hey, this, here's how we can avoid this stuff. You know, what to look out for. You know, It's the same thing with, it's the same thing with true crime. It's like you, you. Wanna know more about what's happening to these people, because that helps us later on to like, kind of like be a little metos and be like, You know what, I, I don't, I know what's going on here.I need to [00:27:00] leave, You know, , De'Vannon: oh that makes me think of an Angela Langs very, who recently died rest in peace girl. She gave us murder she wrote, and the Venturian candidate , among Demi: other things, A little story by Angela Lansbury. I used to watch Bed ro, bed knobs and broomsticks when I was growing up, of course.But my grandma used to have a a bed, but in the room that I slept with that looked exactly like the bed from beds and broomstick. So every time I slept on that bed, I always felt like I was like riding through wherever with insulin landsbury, . De'Vannon: Well, you know what? She was a gay icon before. I realized that this such thing existed.Lame. I love the hair. I love the hair, the twist that she did. So, so you mentioned true crime. I know, I know you're considering this, like your true crime breakout, [00:28:00] so to speak. from this is, this is her breakout interview. So from the true crime aspect, like what would you like to say? What would you like to bring up? Like what's true crime to you? I mean, the whole damn thing is, but like, what, what do you, what do you wanna pick apart from it?Demi: Honestly, like I, I love true crime and I feel like the more we learn about this kind of darker aspect of humanity, the more we kind of. Bring this stuff back into light to talk about it openly, to share stories. And I, I think that has a lot to do with, like, I used to really suck at history in high school , but true crime has like kind of brought me more in line with, like, understanding history more.And I think the more that we understand history, the more we can we plan for the future. Mm-hmm. . So I think that is really kind of like coming full circle for me in a way to kinda like understand this from like that perspective, but also like to understand how, [00:29:00] how victims work and how like the police are so fucked up and, and how humans can just not always get things right.You know, we're, we're, we're full of problems, we're full of issues. We all make, we all make mistakes. We all make shit an shit decisions, you know, De'Vannon: we do. And sometimes it's because we. Or we are full of ourselves. You know, we get blindsided by our own desires, ambitions, and stuff like that. And think a little less about the other person than probably we.I don't like to use the word should very often, but in this case I'll say than we should I call for more compassion towards other people in this earth. I just wanna say that I'm super upset and mad and like bitter in my soul that I had [00:30:00] to wait till episode two for Evan Peters to take his fucking clothes off.I'm getting spoiled by American Horror stories. Like his s is always on his like literal bare s is always on the screen, but we got a little, almost kind of slight side dick or top. Two on this one. I was just saying girling, like,Demi: so you'd be, you'd be sending dahmer like letters in the mail, wouldn't you? De'Vannon: in exchange for nudes. Fuck it. Demi: Think what I got most excited for was Sean Brown, who was playing Tracy Edwards, who's the guy in the first episode who, who did the little sexy dance in order to escape from daher. I think that was brilliant.I think that was like a fantastic dramatization of what might have happened. I'm not sure if that actually happened, but holy shit. That was like in insane. That was, that was an [00:31:00] insane escape. I'm so happy that he got out and then he finally got caught. Props to Sean Brown for playing that He is completely me worthy.De'Vannon: they're coming. Oh, I, I made one. Did you see it? ? Yeah. . So, so Sean, if you're listening, you know, Demi's address is available and you, I, he is in Los Angeles, a, you know, Demi's in Los Angeles. So I think you should go do that dance for him. And so I love how, So episode one actually shows, like, like to me is saying, you know, this character escaping, running down the street, getting the police coming back, and Jeff Dahmers actually getting arrested.Mm-hmm. . And so the series actually kind of, it's like flash backy and then the trial is kind of precipitating and starting to happen throughout. And I thought that was very nicely done, right? [00:32:00] So I wanna talk about his parents. I wanna talk about his parents. I ain't hit a judge because, you know, I done done all kind of drugs.I never was a pill popper. I just sold it. No judgment though. So this, so y'all, when when, when Jeffrey's mom was pregnant with him, she was on like, I can't remember, 26, 26 pills a day. Okay. You know, then, you know, so there's speculation that perhaps that fucked him up because, you know, they never thought about it before.Because we hear about crack babies. I don't mean that derogatory, but that's the term people will recognize. Or people, you know, mother's drinking. You know, you can't buy a bottle of wine back of the label for whatever fucking reason in this country. We have to tell, we have to put it in print. If you're pregnant, you shouldn't have this bottle of wine bitch.And so like, but it never occurred to me, you know, somebody getting a legal prescription from their doctors could do the same sort of [00:33:00] damage with pills. Mm-hmm. . So that was like super eye opening for me. Demi: And it was also the, it was like the sixties. So I mean, it was a completely different time for pharmaceuticals.Like people were just like, Yeah, take this methadone, take this fucking shit, take whatever antipsychotic that, you know, cuz who cares? Cause we're all just making money off of it anyways. We're still to this day is same problem. We're just prescribing opiates to people that don't really need it because we're making money doing it.So it's the same kind of kind of thing the pharmaceutical company is like, is or the pharmaceutical biz is fucked up. But it just goes to show that like, yes, like this stuff does in a large quantity is due serious damage to us, to our bodies and to the bodies that might be living inside of us. It's, it's insane, but it was a different time.It was like the sixties, completely different time. So you [00:34:00] had a, They still thought, they still thought, they still thought smoking was healthy back then. You know, , De'Vannon: I somehow feel like this country hasn't come that long of a way sometimes we seem so damn primitive with the way we treat each other and the, some of the things people say and do.So this, you know, so we had this mom with the pills, his dad harbored desires, you know, in the, in the show with his dad confessed towards the end. You know what? I really wanted to murder people and I would imagine having done it, but I didn't say anything. And basically the two of them helped to produce this serial killer.And I was thinking, you know, people don't want, you know, queer folk to have kids and everything because they're afraid we're gonna ruin them and turn them in and ruin the moral fabric. But you know, we just got, you know, really our rights to really have a family really not that long ago. So the world's serial killers and murders and, you know, all of these notorious people came from heterosexual unions.I just really wanted to point that out.[00:35:00]Demi: right? That's not an argument. Cause obviously like people procreate and so heterosexuals procreate. Obviously you guys are also doing your part to create people of Daher status. You know, it's not, the argument is invalid, you know, when it comes De'Vannon: to that. Right? So I love all the, you know, the things like that, that this series brought out.You mentioned several times how shitty the cops were. Mm-hmm. , Let's get more granular with that. Now, Jeffrey was already convicted sex offender on parole. Right. I think he murdered the damn 14 year old. Mm-hmm. . But he was a brother. Yeah. Right. And so, so Niecy, Nash's character, Linda believe it was, was complaining.But, you know, she's black. Mm-hmm. , it's, you know, gay things happening. So the cops are showing up like, so this is a boyfriend, boyfriend thing, Right. We don't wanna Demi: get involved. There's De'Vannon: aids, you know. Yeah. We might catch it from like, walking in your [00:36:00] apartment and so and so and so. So, no, they took a very hands off approach to this.Jeffrey was white, N's character was black, and then the little boy was Asian. And so they, they just, they just believed the white boy. And so and then Niecy, you know, just, just kept calling and calling and calling, you know, at some point N'S character. She, she just was like, I, you know, I'm, I'm not gonna say what, what's your favorite line that, that N's character said?Demi: I'll eat it later.when Daher comes into her apartment, which I don't know why the fuck she would let him into her apartment. He brought a sandwich into the apartment with him and he gives it to her and he tells her Eat it. And she goes, I'm not eating that . And he goes, Eat it. And she goes, I'll eat it later. . [00:37:00]That was just so brilliant and just like so well done.It's so like powerful. Just like go right back at him with that aggression. Like, Oh my God, that was so great. De'Vannon: You know? Yeah. She didn't back down. She told him, I'm not afraid of you. Mm-hmm. , she had fear cuz the moment he left her apartment and closed the Doche gas and she broke down. But So Niecy nasty, Niecy nasty character.Lives right next door to Daher and Dahmers putting shit in people's food. To drug them. And so he had made a sandwich probably out of people in dope. I'm sure it was people Yeah, exactly. And thought she was going to eat it, and so and so. No, she wasn't having any of that. And I thought she was, I thought she, I thought her character was like probably the strongest next to, you know, to the reverend.I thought her character was probably the strongest, you know? Yeah. You know, like in, in internally. Yeah. Yeah. So my favorite line from her is [00:38:00] when at some point she told the cops, you know, she's like, Y'all came, but it's too late now. Demi: It's too De'Vannon: late. You got 17 dead people. I called y'all how many times . She, she read those cops for absolute bills.Yeah. But the fucked up part, the cops were only suspended from duty with pay. The two cops that were on that circuit, on that beat, you know, handling this, they were only suspended. With pay. And then they got reinstated and then they gave them rewards for like top of the fucking year. Demi: I know. And I, I did, I did write down one of their lines that they said when they were talking to their police chief, they sold their police Chief, You can't fire us.Trust me, we will be here long after you. Which is just like, it's so threatening to say that to your boss, first of all. And so just gross, Just gross humanity. And just that, that abuse of power is so insane. And I, it's [00:39:00] still like that police could not be held accountable, period. There's nothing to hold them accountable.De'Vannon: I feel like there's. Accountability is starting to trickle up. But what, what he was, what those two cops told him was true. Whatever the shit hits the fan, it's the police chief or somebody in a high position to go right. And they, they're not wrong about that. And they went, ran into the police union and, you know, hid behind them.I'm so, I had applied to become a cop with the Houston Police Department at one point before, became a drug dealer. I am, yeah. I'm so happy I became a drug dealer instead. Because there is more honor and credibility in pushing dope in all kinds of methamphetamine and narcotics. Than being a fucking police officer.Demi: I agree. , there's these so there's and Canadian native people there's a, a story that I, I'm gonna butcher this completely, but [00:40:00] there was these stories that were called like like Midnight, Midnight Drive or something like that. I'm gonna get that wrong. But anyways, these police officers would, would take up these, these Canadian native people, drive them out into like the middle of nowhere, and then have them like, take off their shoes and everything and like, have them walk back into town and they would never find the bodies and stuff.And they were these, you know, it, it, it's crazy. People didn't find out that they were doing this to, to these native people for years. When they finally did, nobody was held accountable, really. Like the police chief was the one that, that kind of like left. And even the Wikipedia page was changed from someone in the police department.They that. And it's like no one, you can pinpoint which desk it came from. Why did you not even think to do that? You know, they just didn't want to. There's nothing to like keep that because it would make them look bad essentially. And that's, [00:41:00] it sucks. It's a reality of the situation. De'Vannon: But whatever it's worth, I, I, from, from my spirituality, I believe that God is not mocked in whatever they, so they will reap as a human.I don't believe is for me to see this necessarily play out. I'm not j I'm not, and I'm just saying like, that's the piece that I make with it, right? That's my own version of that. And so I hope other people don't become bitter, you know, looking at, you know, police to think police do, and because the bitterness isn't going to help you.You know, it's very easy to watch a series like this or to turn on the news today. And it doesn't get angry. The anger is so valid, but I just hope people don't internalize it, you know? So I just wanna be Demi: proactive, you know, volunteer, you know, be, be active in, you know, [00:42:00] protesting you know, be, be vigilant and, you know, really call out these things when you see it.It's, it's, it's shocking. It's, it's crazy, but at the same time, it's not all that surprising to see that, Yeah, this stuff still happens.De'Vannon: I don't know if I, Maybe I shouldn't. Maybe I should. Okay. I guess I will, since I said it that much. So, , so when, so there's a scene in here where Jeffrey, Jeffrey has a thing for mannequins and everything like that.Oh God. And so he goes into the store, kinda buys something, sneaks into the dressing room. And hangs out once they close. And then once the security guard leaves and they turn the lights off, he dashes out of the dressing room, Nas the mannequin, and of course is a nice chisel, male mannequin, all the ad right.Pulled everything going on. I have to confess, I've, you know, notice the, [00:43:00] the, the honks of the mannequins in the window. You know, that , that's why they make 'em that way. But I never was gonna take one home. So Jeffrey liked to get these mannequins and and. While I'm watching this, I'm having flashbacks from like Pose, which have absolutely nothing to do with this.Pose was super great. Also a whole nother, but again, another Ryan Murphy show, , another Ryan Murphy show, and also the first fucking episode of Pose, Season one, episode one. When a lecture in the House of Abundance go into the store, the Macy's or whatever they stay in for. Clothes hide everywhere. Come. They undressed the mannequin.Oh yeah. Clothes. They take the clothes and leave the mannequins. But I was, I don't know, it just reminded me of that. I was so happy to see one of those characters from Pose appear later on in the, in the series though, I think, I don't know, maybe his name was Danny and Pose one of the dancer guys. He was the dark chocolate one.Oh, right, right. Dos . [00:44:00]Demi: So, I mean, Ryan Murphy does like to work with the same actors, and I, that's, I think that's why he's taking a liking to Evan Peters, because Evan Peters is a great actor and he did such an amazing job with, with this role. As far as the mannequin goes, I have a confession. De'Vannon: No mannequin is safe.No mannequin is safe. Demi: Not mannequin. No, but I was, I was the only child. I, I didn't really have, I was, I was, you know, a little older than some of the kids on the block. So I was a little lonely at times. I kind of wished I had a brother or a friend around and I didn't really have one. I, I did occasionally build a friend.Out of pillows and my own clothes, and keep 'em on my De'Vannon: bed.Demi: It's a very weird thing that I did as a kid. My mom never batted an eye at this though. , It was very strange. I would give them [00:45:00] names. I would just, you know, this was just like, this is my friend that I've built. And so I kind of related to Daher in that, in that aspect of just like, Oh my God, this is so weird to keep this, this thing I, this, this form in my bed.You know? I never told that to another person, by the way. So everybody knows all this weird secret about De'Vannon: me, . Okay. I can confess something that I did, and I don't judge you for that, but you saying that reminds me of when I was in the Air Force and I left home when I was 17 and I could not relate with people coming from the country, coming from the Pentecostal background and, and I didn't know how to make friends and I didn't know.I got, I had this, I got this orange monkey. He was like a, a bright orange, You might call him like a curious Georgie thing, but he was like neon orange. And I would take him places with me, and now I'm 17, 18, you know, I have a car. I'm not really grown, but I'm older. And I, I would strap him into the front seat and put like [00:46:00] on him and drive him around because I couldn't find a fucking friend.You know, there was no, there was no grinder, there was none of that. You couldn't go online and find a friend. You had to go out and physically meet people. And I was 17. I wasn't old enough to go to any bars or anything. I was fucked, you know? And I wasn't in college, I was in, I was in a grown man's world in the military.I do not recommend going to the military at 17. So, no. Yeah, we built person. I went to toys us and bought mine. Fuck it. You know, , we all had our mixture of friends. Yeah. Demi: And, and you know, it's, It's not all that shocking, you know, it's, it is shocking in the context of like Daher, but at the same time, it's not all that shocking for people to just be lonely.De'Vannon: Right. And, and he was lonely. Lone did, Jeffrey was lonely cuz his parents not only walked away from him, but they didn't really teach him, you know they didn't really [00:47:00] teach him. Like, I don't feel like my parents taught me about sex, about life. You know, Jeffrey did not understand what it meant to be a homosexual.You know, when cops would show up, he would be like, we're doing gay things, you know porn, you know, to him it's like something, Homosexuality is something that you do. It's an action rather than who you are. Right? So, So, you know, the, he was he in that, in that aspect, I'll say the poor thing was misguided.I feel like so many of us gays are, you know, I wish someone would say, Hey, here's how you be in this world. You know,I wanna talk about post traumatic stress of disorder, . Okay. Like you said, gal NE's character was, is, was, is an alga amalgamation check of of all the people in the building. So by the end of the series, y'all the [00:48:00] people in this building where this boy then chopped up and cooked and filet and sauteed.These people just cannot. Okay? They have to go sleep downstairs in the hall because everybody's having nightmares. And flashbacks thinking, Jeffrey's coming for them, hearing the same sounds and shit. This is just like a veteran coming back from war. Right. Okay. People who barely escaped from him are having flashbacks.These people's families are getting harassed by the fucking police and shit. What? What? The PTSD as something that shocked me and I had never considered before. Demi: Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, the victims aren't the only victims in this. It's the people that actually were in that building. It's the people who had to find the bodies who, you know, the people who actually working the crime scene and stuff.The people who were just the neighbors, you know, the people who lived in that, in that neighborhood. Those are all victims. Those are people that knew all this stuff was happening. [00:49:00] I think what the city Des decided was the right thing to do was just to knock down the building completely and erase it, which I think is the wrong thing to do.And I think Glenda was doing the right thing by fighting for this park in this plaque to commemorate the names of the victims of people. And I think that's a really important thing. And at the very end of the show you, you realize that it's still not there. So I think it's really, I think it'll bring up an interesting commentary to this, especially just because of this year and the kind of last couple years that we've been having in order to really do some good in this world, is to bring light onto things that were once dark, rather than just De'Vannon: make them disappear.That's like whitewashing it in a way. Like, you know, you know, I love, I love me, some white dick and all of that, but. White people can do things like try to just make problems disappear and shit. Mm-hmm. like what we see demonstrating here, [00:50:00] because historically white people have held at the power, you know, in this country, they've had the power to do it.Control the narrative, rewrite history, the where the fuck you wanna do, bad shit happen over there. We'll call it Murder House from American Horror Story couldn't get any worse. You know, bad shit happened. We'll just tear it down and we'll just act alike, you know, we'll just move on now. But like, like, like the reverend Jesse Jesse Jackson said in there, you know, we're not gonna let you just give us peaceful words like healing and hope, and everything's gonna be okay, which is another way of saying, let's just forget about it.Right? Demi: That's not how you deal with, with trauma. , you know, actually processing those emotions learning to stand in it and not be affected by it. Learning how to kind of move within it rather than just forget about it. Cuz as we all know, and we just pushed into the back of our minds, they always have a nice, lovely way of coming right back up into weird, do weird things to our psyche, [00:51:00] you know?So yeah, all those people, I'm sure I, I, I hope have gotten help through the years. But I still think that there still needs more to be done culturally, especially when it comes to like, people who are victims, who are horrible victims such as this. De'Vannon: And like, and, and you mentioned, I mean, all traumas like that.I mean, you said it best. I'm just gonna say trauma goes in, is he has to come back out. It won't just dissipate. And you mentioned earlier about, you know, you asked me like, would I be one of the ones writing letters to, to Jeff in the mail since I think he has a nice ass and d print. So in the series, y'all, this, this part grossed me out and I hope I was gross top in the nonjudgmental way because I don't like to judge anyone for anything.Okay. Jeff had a, had a, had, has a following. They started making Halloween costumes and shit. There was a comic, his [00:52:00] dad wrote a book. People started writing him letter, sending him money. It's kind of Trumpy . Demi: Oh. He was trying to profit off of what happened and like, being the father of the killer, you know, I think that's so messed up.And I think it was right for the victims, for the families of the victims to pursue that in court. And did, did they win? I, I believe they did Eventually. They, they want, they lost the first time, but they did. And yeah, that money should go to the victims. It should not go to the fucking dude. Like dad.That's insane. Like, my god, De'Vannon: not only, no, but hell nah. I couldn't believe he had the balls to do that. Like, I could have seen if he wrote it for cathartic healing reasons, maybe shared it with the family or whoever Demi: requested Yeah. Set up for like non-profit or something. Like just, Yeah, like, just don't, That's it's so selfish and it's very Trumpy for sure.De'Vannon: Yeah. They're in their [00:53:00] toasting margaritas, you know, and shit over the, over the book deal , you know, everything like that with no concern for people. So then Jeff had copycats people, Sorry, do mimic him and everything like that. And it. Makes me very concerned for the, for the mental state of the world.Because as old as this crime is, it's not like mental health. I don't feel like it's improved. Right. Treatment has gotten better, but people are still like, not all there . Right. Not as good as they could be. Demi: Completely. Do we have any final De'Vannon: thoughts? I do. I have, I, the, the last two things that I would like to bring up was the way the whole unforgiveness, bitterness thing that, that went from DC Nas character.Mm-hmm. , the guy who murdered him in jail, who felt like he was a right to hand of God and everything like that. And then Jeffrey's baptism and [00:54:00] repentance before that. Right. Do you think the repentance is real? For, for me. Like I was saying earlier, I, I don't want people to get into this space of thinking like we have space to judge anyone.I don't care how terrible it is. Right? It's like if somebody's like a monk, you know, in certain religions they feel like all life is sacred. So they would never, like say, step on a roach, Okay, we'll step on a roach, kill a spider in a fucking heartbeat. Cuz we view it as a threat or just gross or whatever.But if somebody goes to murder an elephant for their ivory, you know, then we're like, Oh no. How could you, I'm not justifying the murder of the elephants, but I'm saying like, if we get judgey, that monk could judge you for stepping on the roach. So I want people to be careful how they tread, because these people in jail, especially the guy that killed him, just couldn't, He was so offended by what he had done.He was like, I did bad shit, but it wasn't as bad as yours, so I'm running to kill you now. Mm-hmm.[00:55:00]Demi: obviously that guy had some mental problems and he became obsessed with this thing and, and obviously he had a very. Active vendetta against Dahmer for whatever reason. For many reasons I'm sure. But I think when it comes to forgiveness, I think it's important to forgive if not only for the sake of others, but for the sake of ourselves.When I mean, you don't have to forgive a person, you don't have to forget either. But I think in order for us to kinda like move on from like trauma like this, it is kind of important to be like, just forgive the situation. You know, just to kind of like allow some release of some way. You don't have to forgive the person, but just forgive the situation for what happened.And I think that's one way to do it. Perhaps the best way, I don't know, whatever works for you, like, whatever, it's [00:56:00] through religion, finding forgiveness through that, which I'm not sure if that was fully , I'm sure if that was fully authentic of, of Doward to kind of go through that. At the end, maybe he finally felt bad for the situation cuz I mean he was very aware, he was very self-aware of what was going on.He was just like, I, I just don't know how to control this. And, but maybe that was a way for him to kind of like, move through it. But at the same time, he also had some narcissistic tendencies at the very, when he started getting fan mail and stuff, he started getting a big head, you know, . Cause I, I really don't know where to place that, but I think in, for forgiveness to really happen, some sort of like forgiveness within needs to happen first.De'Vannon: True. I feel like if he meant his repentance that he, he had the priest commander baptize him and everything, I think just like Jesus did on the cross, and I think Jesus had a murder and a thief up there with him. Yeah. You know, Jesus said that He'll forgive you for anything with the exception of Blast Fing the [00:57:00] Holy Ghost, which is like a, something that I don't think most of us even know how to do, to be quite honest.But and a lot of people might not care Demi: to die. How do we do that? ? Can you tell us step by stepDe'Vannon: They create Little Holy Ghosts and Blast femurs. researched it. I've been there, researched it because I was like, How do you even, I think it has something to do with a very deep and like, kind of like rejection of, of, of God on like, like a, on like a super, super, super, super, super deep. Level that it's, it's very hard to explain and I, and I don't really, I I can't explain it to you cuz even though I've read it, I'm like, okay, I'm reading this and I was trying to read this, trying to understand that the original culture of the Middle East where this came from, and I'm all like, I don't know, this is like a deep, deep, deep level of [00:58:00] disrespect.And if, if you, if you're this, this adverse towards, towards the Holy Ghost, you would probably know. And this is beyond like, well I'm undecided on God or I don't know if I'm gonna believe in him. This is like this is like a Rast rant thing and I cannot explain it because I don't know how to blast feed the Holy Ghost.And after reading it, I just know, okay, I ain't done that and I never will because that's like really far out. Right? You do. So, so so I would just say people watch the show. I don't know if this may be cathartic for people who, whose family members have been murdered on any level to watch other people go through it.I think that there's some healing to be found in it. So watch it the seat and see what you can get out of it. Demi: I would say or not, if you're not comfortable with that kind of stuff, don't, because it's, it's not, it's not for everyone [00:59:00] and I think it might, obviously it brought up a lot of conversation, especially online about victims and all that stuff.If you're not comfortable in that, it might not be good for you to watch. On the other hand, those who aren't probably not that sensitive to it or perhaps have done some sort of, you know, work in, in this, in that kind of realm to be sure you're able to like handle the kind of things, which I thought I was very.Open to this type of stuff. I was like, really gung ho The moment I was like, Yeah, let's watch Daher. Everyone's talking about it, let's do it. That first episode had me like, Oh my God, I can't, I gotta wait. I gotta wait a day. , you know, I gotta watch a comedy after this. I gotta watch it stand up or something.Cause I, I don't think it's for everyone, but I think it's for a specific type of person. I think it, there is some sort of healing in it as well. But also it's a lot of like more learning from, in my opinion. [01:00:00]De'Vannon: Well, if anyone needs a friend or to talk to us about anything that you may come across. We're not mental health professionals, but we do.We are life professionals and we have lived through some experiences. My website is Sex Drugs in jesus.com, and that's where you can reach me. All my information is there, video1836075140: baby. Demi: And mine's dimitri wild.com. But before we let you go, shall we do a little round of red flags? De'Vannon: Yes. Demi: All right. All right. Number one red flag.They keep an mysterious oil drum in their bedroom.De'Vannon: Yeah. Okay. Yeah, he did, he did have a, a red or an oil drum in his bedroom, , and we know enough to know, well, there are the body's in there, but , you know, then they didn't have so much television and, you know, the sharing of knowledge. But yeah, there was [01:01:00] that Demi: red flag for sure. Their apartments smelled like dead animals.De'Vannon: That was a red flag, which Jeffrey always explained the way is rotten meat in the refrigerator. , Demi: they have a fish De'Vannon: tank,but most people haven't smelled a dead decaying corpse. So most people have a frame of reference. But this is not just like, You, you just ran or just had one of those days where you're feeling not so fresh this year?Demi: Wait, you're still talking about the dead animals? . De'Vannon: This is beyond that. So yeah, beyond that it was Thank a Dan. Demi: Dan. Exactly. They have a fish tank.De'Vannon: Well, I suppose I don't see so much fishes around anymore. I don't with a fish tank anymore, but I don't think that that would be a red flag unless all the fish are dead. Which I [01:02:00]think a couple of his were, Yeah, Demi: beta. The beta fish that fight.How about if they live with their grandmother? Red flag? De'Vannon: Depends on the nature of it. You know, if he owns the house. And he's, and he's Sha letting Granny Shack with him then? No. But at that age, and it doesn't have to be, If somebody's going through hard times, I would not judge them for that. But when Granny's coming down, throwing shade and reading Jeffrey for a filth and like clearly, okay, run bitch granny don't like, can, cannot deal with her own grandchild.Why should you And Granny called too. Granny was strong too. Was strong, you know, She was like, Hell no, I'm not leaving, bitch, this is my house.Demi: Last one, they order liver and onions at [01:03:00] dinner.De'Vannon: Growing up in the south we had liver and onions all the time, but it was cow liver. That tip my knowledge, not peopleDemi: I don't think I'd, I don't think I'd like anyone who ordered liver at dinner. Like it would be like weird. It's just gross. De'Vannon: Well, out there in California, y'all don't have southern cuisines, so you don't have like grit, You don't have that. Yeah. Greens and, you know, and shit like that. Maybe if you go down to Roscoe's Chicken and waffles, you might find something close to that.But other than that, you know, something, half the shit we eat down here, you'd probably be like a red flag. Oh Lord, a pig. Lift a pig, lift a pigs foot. Oh hell no. I'm not about to get cut up in this motherfucker. I'm out. . Demi: Yeah, I mean I'm, I definitely grew up in Southern California, so I grew up on like, you know, chicken in pork, but like, that's about as far weird as I got, you know, [01:04:00] liver, not so much.De'Vannon: But they say it's super good for you. It tasted lean. I can't, I don't know that anybody ever became morbidly obese off of eating liver out of all the things that we ate that probably came around in the, like a lower 10%. It's not like I saw it a whole hell of a lot. And I haven't seen it in years, you know, now.But after this show here, maybe people will stop using, eating it all together. Right. Demi: Well that's all the red flags I have. , I guess. Thanks for everyone for tuning in. This has really been really fun. Thanks to Van for doing this with me, This little collab that we got going on. De'Vannon: Thank you. Go for agreeing to come on and for and, and for pushing me to, you know, to get it.I was trying to like, You know, I was like, I can be such a procrastinator, but you know, when Dimi makes up her mind, y is going get done. And I Absolut love [01:05:00] it. She was like, Yes, let's do this shit now. And I was like, Oh, Demi: like what are you doing November? I'm like this is Halloween, girl. This is Halloween.Well again, thank you for doing this with us. Thanks for listening everyone, and we'll see you next time. Bye bye. I.De'Vannon: Thank you all so much for taking time to listen to the Sex Drugs and Jesus podcast. It really means everything to me. Look, if you love the show, you can find more information and resources at SexDrugsAndJesus.com or wherever you listen to your podcast. Feel free to reach out to me directly at DeVannon@SexDrugsAndJesus.com and on Twitter and Facebook as well.My name is De'Vannon, and it's been wonderful being your host today. And just remember that everything is gonna be right. 

Glen Jackson, who cofounded Jackson Spalding in 1995, has been one of the most prominent PR leaders in Atlanta ever since. He joins the latest edition of The PR Week to talk about the communications market in the economic hub of the South, and much more, such as:-Maintaining a firm's culture by staying independent; -Empowering employees and future leaders; -Special — and very effective — guests in the White House briefing room; -Ethical red flags in client work.

The ladies sit down with special guest "Jackson Jackson" and discuss their views concerning gay men in America. While everyone seems to shy away from this uncomfortable conversation, this trio gets candid and touches on everything from coming out of the closet to why "straight men" cant get enough. Intro Music

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US Wins the Ryder Cup | Sanderson Farms Championship Fantasy Picks & Predictions | PGA Tour Betting Strategy | Country Club of Jackson | Jackson, MS Congrats to the US Ryder Cup team on their victory at Whistling Straits. The US team dominated the Ryder Cup event this week. Dustin Johnson won all 5 of his matches and lead the team to the victory. Bryson DeChambeau put on a show this weekend and gained a ton of fans in golf. Rory McIlroy had a tough week at the Ryder Cup. Rory and Lee Westwood were both very emotional on Sunday evening about the results. This was a fantastic event. We can't wait to see how the next one lines out in a couple of years. We're heading to Country Club of Jackson in Jackson, MS for the Sanderson Farms Championship. The field is full of great players on the PGA Tour including Sam Burns, Will Zalatoris, Sergio Garcia, Sungjae Im, Corey Connors, Keegan Bradley, Si Woo Kim, Harold Varner III, Charley Hoffman and Kevin Streelman. Can Sam Burns kick off the new season with a victory? Can Sergio Garcia bounce back from his recent play and gain another victory? Will Will Zalatoris continue his strong play and kick off the season with a victory? We break down the field and predictions on the show. The Birdies & Bourbon team chat the Sanderson Farms Championship Fantasy strategy and predictions at Country Club of Jackson in Jackson, MS. We chat through the PGA DFS strategies for the event using Fantasy National stats. We first chat Country Club of Jackson conditions, history, weather and everything you need to know about the strategy for the tournament. We chat strategy for DraftKings, FanDuel and Sportsbook picks. The tournament has a strong field with top players teeing it up. We had a blast chatting through the field and strategies. Cheers. Apparel for the show provided by turtleson. Be sure to check them out online for the new season lineup at https://turtleson.com/ The Neat Glass. Be sure to check out The Neat Glass online at theneatglass.com or on Instagram @theneatglass for an improved experience and use discount code: bb10 to receive your Birdies & Bourbon discount. Thank you for taking the time listen to the Birdies & Bourbon Show for all things PGA Tour, golf, gear, bourbon and mixology. Dan & Cal aim to bring you entertaining and informative episodes weekly. Please help spread the word on the podcast and tell a friend about the show. You can also help by leaving an 5-Star iTunes review. We love to hear the feedback and support! Cheers. Follow on Twitter & Instagram ( @birdies_bourbon) --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/birdies-bourbon/support

Jackson and Jackson talk about the newest supreme + Pucci collaboration, the 50 variant pairs of Virgil dunks , Amg Benz and palace collab , the newest sb's to be released and wrap things up with prediction of the upcoming Yezzy gap stope in Chicago. @destination_115

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Jackson Jackson, from this week’s story What You Pawn I Will Redeem by Sherman Alexie, is a homeless Native American living in Seattle on a quest to win back an ancestral regalia. The simultaneously lighthearted and tragic tone of the story led us to discussing topics around loss and identity, about creating values outside of the commodity chain and the warmth and kindness in the story that exists in spite of the bleak realities.You can read What You Pawn I Will Redeem (free) here.Follow the show on:TwitterFacebookEmail: leftshelfpodcast@gmail.comWebsite InstagramYoutube Become a monthly contributor on Patreon: www.patreon.com/leftshelf.

@Dragonjackon talks about the newest SNKRS app line up , Bapes newest Nike sb inspired  silhouette , Jeff Staples and MUCH more ! @Destination_115

Dr. Gil Jackson, former chiropractor for the Golden State Warriors and current co-owner of Jackson Chiropractic, is the latest guest on Recovery Lab. In this episode of Recovery Lab, Dr. Jackson touches on one of the highlights of the PiezoWave2: it goes deeper into the tissue than manual therapy can making healing more complete and reaching issues unaffected by manual therapy. Check out the rest of his recovery insights and how he's compensating for lack of patient traffic during the pandemic by utilizing the PiezoWave2 in his practice. Enjoy! ELvation Medical Sponsor: www.ELvationUSA.com Contact ELvation Medical Instagram: http://bit.ly/2jkYr0B Facebook: https://bit.ly/3coZpBP Youtube: http://bit.ly/2WcD1Ud

Courtney and Kam discuss all things #JanetJackson and Jackson Jackson with the phenomenal women of the Black Jackson Estate Podcast as we highlight our favorite songs from both Michael and Janet in a bit of a friendly competition plus Kam's surprise moment with TJ Jackson.  .

In today’s episode, we have Melany Shaw Jackson, owner of Jackson Professional Services. Melany shares her journey and how she got here in Colorado Springs with us and what her business is about and how she is able to help Christian businesses, churches, and ministries. We hope you enjoy today’s episode of the COS Business Podcast. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/cosbusinesspodcast/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/cosbusinesspodcast/support

Dr. Jackson is a dynamic Executive Advisor, Thought Leader, TedX Speaker and Organizational Consultant. This interview contains actionable advice for leaders at all levels! Dr. Jackson is very active on LinkedIn and you can find him there at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terence-jackson-ph-d-57618410/ Check out his book: Transformational Thinking: The First Step Toward Achieving Personal and Organizational Greatness. Learn more about Jackson Consulting Group at: http://jcgconsultinggroup.com/ And you can email him at: terryjackson@jcgconsultinggroup.com  

Join your Bros for another briefing at the roundtable in The War Room! On this week's episode, we'll discuss... - Maker making HIStory - Patrick Mahomes obliterates the bank - The pressure ratchets up on Dan Snyder and the Washington Profession Football Organzation - Jews make Jackson & Jackson bend the knee - Fall sports altered or scrapped altogether - Ye 2020 - Starbury ...and MUCH more! "This portion of the revolution will not be televised, but EVERYBODY can listen." Don't miss it!!!

This episode is absolute rambling chaos. Kevin lost a keyboard and mouse. We did not stay on any one topic. No one knows anything. Nothing matters.  Music: dvsn - friends ft. PARTYNEXTDOOR We are starting new streams to go along with podcasting and virtual happy hour.  Kevin and Patrick to the moon - Kevin and Pat playing rocket league Warzone Virgins - We play Call of Duty: Warzone poorly together Words with Jackson - Jackson just writes all the words he knows  Cooking with Chef Jordan - Jordan cooks and has a bad time  Jackson rounds the bases - Jackson plays super mega baseball on stream   

Shane Jackson, Jackson Healthcare (North Fulton Business Radio, Episode 236) Shane Jackson, President of Jackson Healthcare, joined “North Fulton Business Radio” to discuss the staffing problems hospitals and other healthcare providers face, healthcare heroes, how his healthcare staffing company is dealing with the pandemic, and much more. The host of North Fulton Business Radio is […] The post Shane Jackson, Jackson Healthcare appeared first on Business RadioX ®.

Originally posted on: https://www.myasbn.com/small-business/culture/how-leaders-and-teams-can-work-together-to-improve-their-company-culture-shane-jackson-jackson-healthcare/ Company culture can be an experience for employees that can either make or break their perspective, attraction, or even respect for a business. Though businesses are putting more effort towards creating a stronger culture within the parameters of their walls, it hasn’t always been this way. One of the most challenging obstacles to overcome can occur when a new figure of leadership steps into a company that already has a great foundation for an effective and loyal culture base. That was the case for our next guest. Here to speak on the importance of maintaining a loyal company culture is President of Jackson Healthcare and Author of, Fostering Culture: A Leader’s Guide to Purposefully Shaping Culture, Shane Jackson. --------------------- Atlanta Small Business Network is your local source for business news, information, resources, best practices and event coverage. From start-up to success, we are your go-to resource for small businesses in Atlanta, Georgia. https://www.myasbn.com/ CONNECT WITH US! Contact us: Info@myasbn.com Subscribe: https://www.myasbn.com/subscribe/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MyASBN Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/myasbn/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/MyASBN Podcasts: https://www.myasbn.com/podcast/

Hysterical comedian Jackson joins Stefano in studio for a wild conversation about cutting off toxic people, joke thieves, Kobe Bryant (RIP). Jackson made some healthy changes recently and we spoke a lot about that as well.

Joining us on the pod during Finals Week, Jackson Smidt stops by the digs to talk medical training with Marcus Mariota and Oregon during their championship run, working with the Minnesota Vikings, and a busy upcoming winter season.

Might need to become something you do no matter what for it to really take hold in your agency. The most interesting part about the whole thing is it will only be the start of the one-off pieces of content you create. That means you should get comfortable with the idea because it's an easy way to do something people don't expect. If you really want to go all in on the idea, it might have be a skill you hire for out of the gate. That's what I talk to Taylor Garcia, of Jackson & Jackson insurance, about the dramatic steps he's taking. The Truth About Video Proposals (Part I) The Truth About Video Proposals (Part II) The Truth About Video Proposals (Part III)

Might need to become something you do no matter what for it to really take hold in your agency. The most interesting part about the whole thing is it will only be the start of the one-off pieces of content you create. That means you should get comfortable with the idea because it's an easy way to do something people don't expect. If you really want to go all in on the idea, it might have be a skill you hire for out of the gate. That's what I talk to Taylor Garcia, of Jackson & Jackson insurance, about the dramatic steps he's taking. The Truth About Video Proposals (Part I) The Truth About Video Proposals (Part II) The Truth About Video Proposals (Part III)

Might need to become something you do no matter what for it to really take hold in your agency. The most interesting part about the whole thing is it will only be the start of the one-off pieces of content you create. That means you should get comfortable with the idea because it's an easy way to do something people don't expect. If you really want to go all in on the idea, it might have be a skill you hire for out of the gate. That's what I talk to Taylor Garcia, of Jackson & Jackson insurance, about the dramatic steps he's taking. The Truth About Video Proposals (Part I) The Truth About Video Proposals (Part II) The Truth About Video Proposals (Part III)

Once again The Pop Team tackles the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. This time Christina Lautazi & Tara Carson review the induction ceremony that aired on HBO. So congrats to the class of 2019 - Stevie Nicks, The Cure, Roxy Music, Radiohead, Jackson Jackson, The Zombies and Def Leppard. 

It's been ages, sorry. But we're chatting here about another Aussie band, Jackson Jackson, and I hope it's been worth it. This album is an absolute belter, and regardless of what we say you should listen to it and so should your friends and family. I'll try not to leave it so long next time, thank you for your time. Contact us @tastesfunnypod or @joemclachlan on Twitter or @minimumeffortjoe on Instagram

It's been ages, sorry. But we're chatting here about another Aussie band, Jackson Jackson, and I hope it's been worth it. This album is an absolute belter, and regardless of what we say you should listen to it and so should your friends and family. I'll try not to leave it so long next time, thank you for your time.   Contact us @tastesfunnypod or @joemclachlan on Twitter or @minimumeffortjoe on Instagram

In this episode of HVAC Shop Talk Zack and Ralph talk to old buddy Tom Jackson. Tom tells the boys all about his experiences at various AHR Expos. Tom is the owner of Jackson Systems, an HVAC controls and zoning distributor/manufacturer.

Renaissance man Devin A Fleming joins us in the Not Real Studio w/ Guitar legend Jackson Jackson. Tonight's content: ∙ Learn to play guitar like a pro and get to know the man behind the instrument. ∙ Find out Pickle's dark secret ∙ Czar's "How success has changed me" ∙ Ali Investigation ∙ What Mayday's Gotta Say? ∙ PPVGuys Not Real Movie News ∙ Review of: Blade Runner - 1982 ∙ Preview Blade Runner 2049 ∙ Puddle of Mudd canceled at Southport Hall Live Music & Party Hall ∙ Memories of Playboy's founder Hugh M. Hefner ∙ Review of Cuphead

In this episode of the Working Joes Podcast Ralph and Zack continue talking with Tom Jackson. This discussion includes information about HVAC controls and control applications.

In this episode Ralph and Zack talk to Tom Jackson from Jackson systems.  

Patrick Jackson was one of the pioneers of what he called "behavioral public relations," but his untimely death in 2001 at age 68 didn't stop his firm from continuing to work with clients on research-based, analysis-driven public relations programs. Stacey Smith, senior counsel & partner in the Rye, NH-based firm, is our guest on this edition of the Lubetkin on Communications Podcast. Stacey talks about Pat Jackson's influence on the modern practice of public relations and discusses her own career with the firm since joining in 1981. She also describes the seminar she will run for the Public Relations Society of America's New Jersey chapter tomorrow, September 20, in Rahway, NJ. About the Guest Stacey Smith Stacey Smith Since joining the firm in 1981, Stacey Smith has helped clients with her counseling expertise in crisis planning and problem solving, facilitation and training, developing public relations and marketing plans, and organizational dynamics and development. Stacey has particular expertise in research, specifically, problem analysis and methodology design. She has also worked with a number of clients on the issues and strategies surrounding organizational development. Stacey holds a B.S. in Communication from the University of Tennessee and an MS in Management, specializing in Organization Behavior, from Antioch New England Graduate School. She has also served as an instructor in public relations at New England College and at Antioch New England Graduate School.  

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Brad shares some great creative advice with Josh, and dives into his journey from being a pilot to realizing his love for building amps.

Don Jackson of the Jackson Consulting Group Ltd. Don's presentation, Direct and to the Point, at the 2007 Insurance Marketing and Advertising Summit in New York City, sponsored by Best's Review magazine and the A.M. Best Company. His presentation focuses on Insurance direct marketing -- what works, what doesn't and why.