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Peter Singer delves into difficult ethical questions regarding animal rights, the morality of factory farming, and difficult human-related ethical dilemmas.Singer discusses his views as a consequentialist, examining the impact of our choices on animal suffering, the ethical considerations around organ donation from anencephalic children, and the broader implications of such decisions.What are the moral implications of eating meat from factory farms versus ethically raised animals, and cannibalism under hypothetical scenarios with no harm to others?Singer emphasizes the need for considering the consequences of our actions, shedding light on the pressing need to reform our food production systems and make more ethical choices in our daily lives.Peter Singer's Substack: https://substack.com/profile/4270932-peter-singerPeter Singer's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@peter_singerPeter Singer's book, ‘Animal Liberation Now': https://www.amazon.com/Animal-Liberation-Now-Definitive-Classic/dp/0063226707[00:00] A Philosophical Dive into Animal Rights with Peter Singer[00:12] Exploring the Ethical Dilemmas of Human and Animal Lives[01:59] The Complexities of Organ Donation from Anencephalic Children[03:57] Comparing Human and Animal Rights in Medical Contexts[06:08] Consequentialism and Individual Case Analysis in Ethics0[7:42] The Ethical Quandaries of Parental Consent and Medical Decisions[15:54] Navigating the Slippery Slope of Euthanasia and Assisted Dying[25:41] The Ethical Considerations of Eating Meat and Factory Farming[33:29] The Harsh Realities of Factory Farming[34:45] Ethical Considerations and the Nature of Animal Suffering[36:50] Addressing Common Objections to Animal Rights[41:12] The Impact of Individual Choices on Animal Suffering[43:43] The Role of Vegetarianism and Veganism in Reducing Demand for Meat[01:00:46] Exploring the Ethical Implications of Consuming Expired or Discarded Meat[01:04:50] Concluding Thoughts and Reflections
Mozi, a prominent Chinese philosopher during the Warring States period, founded Mohism, a school of thought emphasizing universal love, meritocracy, anti-war principles, and consequentialist ethics. He advocated for frugality, social welfare, and pragmatic governance guided by Heaven's will.
"Should a moralist ignore consequence and argue for UPB purely on the basis of epistemology and pure philosophical merit, while ignoring the elephant in the room, which is the question we all subconsciously ask. “How does this benefit my survival?”"UPB isn't validated or invalidated by its consequences, but at the same time, discussions of UPB inevitably involve consequences. How do we reconcile this? Especially since free will is in the picture and we don't want predictions about the future to invalidate choice."For example, when asked about your thoughts on the success of UPB close to 20 years after publication, you mentioned reductions in violence against children with the expectation that this trend would continue if UPB continues to be spread. Would the theory and observation that UPB leads to reductions in violence against children be a deterministic portrayal of human beings? If we avoid discussing consequences to avoid this issue, then if someone wants to discuss UPB on the merit of usefulness towards themselves and society as a whole, do we stick to purely philosophical merit? Or do we say there are no guarantees, but it will make a desirable outcome more likely."If we use terms such as 'more likely' in order to maintain philosophical integrity, how do we out compete those who are certain/dogmatic, benefiting from the momentum of societal norms in order to ‘validate' their false theories."Regarding the first question about the relationship between moral frameworks, their consequences and free will. I was thinking that if your definition is used where free will is defined as our ability to compare proposed actions to ideal standards then UPB provides ideal standards, increasing our capacity for free will. With this increased capacity, it becomes more likely for moral outcomes to occur..."GET MY NEW BOOK 'PEACEFUL PARENTING', THE INTERACTIVE PEACEFUL PARENTING AI, AND THE FULL AUDIOBOOK!https://peacefulparenting.com/Join the PREMIUM philosophy community on the web for free!Subscribers get 12 HOURS on the "Truth About the French Revolution," multiple interactive multi-lingual philosophy AIs trained on thousands of hours of my material - as well as AIs for Real-Time Relationships, Bitcoin, Peaceful Parenting, and Call-In Shows!You also receive private livestreams, HUNDREDS of exclusive premium shows, early release podcasts, the 22 Part History of Philosophers series and much more!See you soon!https://freedomain.locals.com/support/promo/UPB2025
Remember when good character was something a leader strived to be known for? It seems that now, not so much. In my latest podcast episode, The Erosion of Character, I explore whether character has truly gone out of fashion—or if we're simply seeing a battle over what “good character” means. Is it now simply a matter of debate?When humiliation, intimidation, and confusion are used to win at any cost, under the guise that the ends justify the means, where does that leave us? I wrote an article to go alongside this podcast called, Is Character out of Fashion? in my LinkedIn newsletter, the Suite Stop. You can access it by clicking here.
Political philosopher Rebecca Lowe discusses her views on freedom, equality, and the ethical implications of emerging technologies. Currently writing a book titled 'Freedom in Utopia,' Rebecca delves into philosophical debates concerning obligations to extinct animals, the ethics of eating meat, and the future potential of lab-grown meat. On questioning norms and making choices:“Think hard about what the norms are that you follow unthinkingly. There are many ways to live a good life, and it's for you to work that out for yourself, because you're the only person who can have any systemic access to that.”On fiction and its philosophical role:“I feel quite strongly that people who don't spend time reading fiction are really missing out on one of the great things about being human—the capacity to separate out from your daily life, think about other worlds, imagine.”She also touches on the moral considerations surrounding artificial wombs, the possible role of ChatGPT as a tool for philosophical inquiry, and her disillusioning experience running for political office. Rebecca emphasizes the importance of decentralization, freedom, and respect in society while also sharing her creative process and insights into leading a fulfilling life.Transcript and video available here. Contents 00:22 Reviving Extinct Animals 02:29 Moral Implications of Eating Meat 07:47 Future Moral Consensus 11:25 Consequentialism in Healthcare 19:21 ChatGPT as a Philosopher 25:28 Artificial Wombs and Ethical Questions 30:33 Rebecca's Political Journey 34:43 Creative Process and Philosophy 37:50 The Importance of Reading Fiction 41:03 Imagining the Best Possible Society 42:19 The Role of Prisons in Utopia 46:01 Education in an Ideal Society 49:05 Cultural Goods and Utopia 52:18 Healthcare and Resource Allocation 55:11 Under rated / Over rated 58:55 Final Thoughts and Advice
How should we treat our one and only home, Earth? What obligations do we have to other living or non-living things? How should we think about climate change and its denial? How does biodiversity and species extinction impact human beings? And how should we think about environmental justice, the rights of animals, and the ways we consume the natural world?In this episode, Ryan McAnnally-Linz welcomes Ryan Darr (Assistant Professor, Yale Divinity School) to reflect on some of the most pressing issues in environmental ethics and consider them through philosophical, ecological, and theological frameworks.Together they discuss:What and who matters in environmental ethics: Only humans? Only sentient animals? Every life form? The inorganic natural world?The significance and difference between global and individual scale of climate issuesThe ethics of climate change denialEnvironmental justice and moral obligations to the environment—the question of what we owe to animals and the rest of the natural worldThe importance of biodiversity and the impact of species loss and extinctionThe ethics of eating animalsThe problems with human consumption of the natural worldAnd the impact of cultivating a wider moral imagination of our ecological futureAbout Ryan DarrRyan Darr Ryan Darr is Assistant Professor of Religion, Ethics, and Environment at Yale Divinity School. His research interests include environmental ethics, multispecies justice, structural injustice, ethical theory, and the history of religious and philosophical ethics. He is currently writing a book that defends an account of environmental and multispecies justice as a framework for thinking ethically about the crisis of biodiversity loss and mass extinction. He is also developing an ongoing research project exploring the relationship between individual agency and responsibility and structural justice and injustice with a particular focus on environmental and climate issues.His first book, The Best Effect: Theology and the Origins of Consequentialism, was published by the University of Chicago Press in 2023. The book offers a new, robustly theological story of the origin of consequentialism, one of the most influential views in modern moral theory. It uses the new historical account to intervene in contemporary ethical debates about consequentialism and about how ethicists conceive of goods, ends, agency, and causality.Prior to joining the YDS faculty, Ryan held postdoctoral fellowships at the Princeton University Center for Human Values (2019-22) and the Yale Institute of Sacred Music (2022-24).Show NotesGet your copy of Ryan Darr's The Best Effect: Theology and the Origins of ConsequentialismComplex ethical questions about climate changeEnmeshed in environmental systemsA crash course in environmental ethicsWhich entities should we be thinking about ethically?Are human beings the most important morally and ethically speaking?What about animals, plants, or other kinds of life?What about other species of animalsAnthropocentrism: Only humans matter.Sentientism: Only sentient animals matterBiocentrism: Every life form mattersCan we apply justice and rights to animals?The polar bear on melting ice was the poster child for climate change; but this was a mistake because the effects on human beings is massive.“All of us are affected.”“We're all vulnerable to climate change. …. kidding themselves and need to think more about this.”Global southClimate negotiations: Who needs to lower emissions and how? And how do we adapt?Massive overwhelm at the scope of environmental problems: “Only massive changes can make a difference.” But “I have to change my life.”How should we navigate the scale issue?Don't let large scale or small scale issues or changes eclipse the other.Political action is crucial“We need people willing to respond in the ways they can, where they are.”Climate change denial“There's a lot of money flowing here.” Fossil fuel interests and others muddy the waters and create conflicts“If it's the case that millions of lives are at stake … I don't see how some doubtReasons why people might deny climate change“It'd be nice if climate change wasn't real, but …”Environmental justice and injusticeToxicities released into the natural environmentConservation and biodiversity lossApproximately 8 million species on earthIt's standard to lose a handful per million per yearGenerally, you're supposed to get more species on earth, short of a mass extinction eventBut extinction rate is something like 100x to 1000x fasterDefaunation—reduction of fauna on earthMeasuring the biomass of various species (Humans make up 30% of the world's biomass.)Changes linked to colonialism and global capitalismWhy would God have created such a diverse speciesThomas Aquinas on why God created a world full of biodiversity: to reflect God's extensive perfection“On this view, the world is show lessWhat are the ethics ofExample: Wolves were intentionally eradicated in America, because “who wants a wolf in their neighborhood.”Justice-oriented “Rights” and what we owe to each other, versus non-justiceDo we have obligations to animals?Example: Kicking a Cat“The Incredulous Stare”Jainism and “ahiṃsā” (non-injury, no-harm, or non-violence toward all life forms, down to microbes)“I'm inclined to think that I have obligations to almost all animals.”At least “animals who are sentient”—desires, frustration of desires, pain, etc.Is it permissible to eat meat?Factory-farmed meat (effectively tormented)Animal life has become commodity—valuable solely because of its use and with no regard for their well-being.Consumers, Producers, and Wendell Berry: How should social roles relate to each other?“Any question about justice have to begin from concrete social positions.”Maintaining action and creativityPractical recommendation for action to align our lives with our values“I read fiction and short stories that tell stories of human beings in futures drastically affected by climate change as a way to open up my imagination to what's possible.”Dystopian narratives: leading to a sense of futility and hopelessness.“I don't think we know where anything is headed.”“Humans have lived through upheaval so many times, and have found ways. … ‘People kept on baking bread as the Roman Empire fell.'”Yale Divinity School class: “Eco-Futures”—imagining lives lived well in painful situationsIf not hope, a sense of determination to do what can be done with the time that we have.Kim Stanley Robinson's The Ministry for the Future: a technocratic novel about politics and policy solutionsShort fiction on Grist—Imagine 2200: Write the FutureMargaret Atwood, Everything ChangeProduction NotesThis podcast featured Ryan Darr and Ryan McAnnally-LinzEdited and Produced by Evan RosaHosted by Evan RosaProduction Assistance by Macie Bridge, Alexa Rollow, Zoë Halaban, Kacie Barrett, and Emily BrookfieldA Production of the Yale Center for Faith & Culture at Yale Divinity School https://faith.yale.edu/aboutSupport For the Life of the World podcast by giving to the Yale Center for Faith & Culture: https://faith.yale.edu/give
Is it permissible for members of one group to appropriate the cultural practices of another? Is there anything wrong with cultural appropriation at all, or are there benefits to cultural appropriation? [00:00] Introduction and Thought Experiment [00:29] Criticism and Cultural Appropriation [02:07] Ownership of Ideas [04:49] Intellectual Property and Cultural Rights [12:03] Personal Offense and Cultural Symbols [22:27] The Benefits of Cultural Appropriation [27:47] Three Objections to Cultural Appropriation [31:15] Consequentialism and Cultural Appropriation [34:34] Balancing Cultural Sensitivity and Utility [37:45] Case-by-Case Analysis of Cultural Appropriation [44:53] Challenges in Defining Cultural Ownership [51:29] Concluding Thoughts
I explore the two narratives surrounding the story of Dietrich Bonhoeffer and the implications that has for how we seek to emulate him. 0:00 - Preface2:00 - Introduction9:40 - History of Evangelicalism14:15 - Evangelical Disengagement20:15 - Evangelicals & Politics25:25 - Spiritual Nihilism31:15 - Imminent Jesus35:20 - Bonhoeffer Narrative39:25 - Why Narratives Matter48:50 - Importance of Ideals54:00 - Cloud of Witnesses58:15 - Salvian Option--------------------------------------------------------GENERAL: A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot--------------------------------------------------------CONSEQUENTIALISM/REALISM: My Episode on Eudaimonism and the Good: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/280-s11e9-3-eudaimonism-a-foundation-of-would My Season on Consequentialism: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/consequentialism-the-heart-of-compromise"Purity of Heart is to Will One Thing" Kierkegaard: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/125974.Purity_of_Heart_is_to_Will_One_Thing?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=7TgsHaNQ5I&rank=1"On Lying" Augustine: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21112707-on-lying?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=mAAOYRAEY5&rank=1"Ozymandias" Shelley: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46565/ozymandias"On the Government of God" Salvian: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/49898521-on-the-government-of-god?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=liZiA4arxV&rank=3--------------------------------------------------------EVANGELICAL HISTORY: "One Nation Under God" Kruse: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22928900-one-nation-under-god?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=8gFD4t6DNw&rank=1 "The Evangelicals" Fitzgerald: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30753872-the-evangelicals?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=5GmDrwdDSH&rank=1"Ministers and Marches" Falwell: https://liberty.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p17184coll4/id/4113/ "Bad Faith" Balmer: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56672921-bad-faith?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=htazQTK8wG&rank=2 My Interview with Dr. Balmer: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/interview-dr-randall-balmerBalmer Article: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/religious-right-real-origins-107133/TGC Pushback on Balmer: https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/evangelical-history/fact-checking-randall-balmers-urban-legend-on-the-real-origin-of-the-religious-right/SBC Resolution on Abortion (from an archived link since the SBC took the site down when it got popular): https://web.archive.org/web/20180704054219/https://www.sbc.net/resolutions/13/resolution-on-abortion My Interview with Dr. Kalantzis on American Evangelical Sacralism: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/272-s11e8-2-modern-sacralism-w-dr-george-kalantzisPropaganda of Veteran's Day Episode: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/290-s11e9-12-the-death-of-peace My Interview with Dr. Saiya on Evangelical Nationalism: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/274-s11e8-4-christianism-power-and-prophetic-witness-w-dr-nilay-saiya"Nixonland" (and the rest of Perlstein's series): https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2393575.Nixonland?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=UselLxDxCo&rank=1My episode on the "Christian" response to the AIDS epidemic: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/257-s11e6-3-the-false-prophet-of-medicine-rage-against-the-mattachine "Benedict Option" Dreher: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31625593-the-benedict-option?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=fzy1lsPfOp&rank=1--------------------------------------------------------METAXAS: "Amazing Grace" Wilberforce Bio: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/106610.Amazing_Grace?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=mPpOBRjBKS&rank=3 Bonhoeffer Bio: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7501962-bonhoeffer?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=sTzIKGN14l&rank=2"Donald Drains the Swamp": https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40680039-donald-drains-the-swamp?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=k3HqtmPgSp&rank=2Prayer Breakfast: https://ericmetaxas.com/watch-read/videos/2012-national-prayer-breakfast/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericmetaxas/?hl=en"Eric Metaxas's American Apocalypse" Dreher: https://www.theamericanconservative.com/eric-metaxas-trump-bloodshed-american-apocalypse-live-not-by-lies/ --------------------------------------------------------THE APOSTATES: "Christianity No Longer Exists" Episode: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/275-s11e8-5-christianity-no-longer-exists-w-taylor-storey"Attack Upon Christendom" Kierkegaard: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/352087.Attack_upon_Christendom?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=3dPqBYGCVl&rank=1"Anatomy of a Hybrid" Verduin: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1461694.The_anatomy_of_a_hybrid?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=osMnnWcKtf&rank=1God Loves the Wicked Episode: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/finished-new-theodicy-god-loves-the-wicked "The Immoral Majority": https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36300678-the-immoral-majority?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=jcovcjsK42&rank=1"The Way of the Dragon or the Way of the Lamb": https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55918687-the-way-of-the-dragon-or-the-way-of-the-lamb?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=mb3iLp75Ar&rank=1--------------------------------------------------------U.S.GLOBAL ACTIONS & HISTORY: Iran Contra Affair: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affairReagan's 1980 October surprise: https://theintercept.com/2023/03/24/october-surprise-ben-barnes/Green v Connolly: https://www.taxnotes.com/research/federal/court-documents/court-opinions-and-orders/schools-that-discriminate-not-qualified-for-...
In this episode, we discuss the importance of defining terms in debates to avoid disagreements and promote productive discussions. We delve into the debate between principles and consequentialism, explore varying viewpoints on equality, and address the impact of educational opportunities on small towns. We also examine arguments surrounding the welfare state, emphasize the significance of logical consistency, and emphasize the role of defining terms and logical reasoning in productive discussions.GET MY NEW BOOK 'PEACEFUL PARENTING', THE INTERACTIVE PEACEFUL PARENTING AI, AND AUDIOBOOK!https://peacefulparenting.com/Join the PREMIUM philosophy community on the web for free!Also get the Truth About the French Revolution, the interactive multi-lingual philosophy AI trained on thousands of hours of my material, private livestreams, premium call in shows, the 22 Part History of Philosophers series and much more!See you soon!https://freedomain.locals.com/support/promo/UPB2022
Scripture in Black and White: https://scriptureinblackandwhite.podbean.com/ Step Into Scripture: https://stepintoscripture.podbean.com/ Today's episode will help us understand how to navigate complex political and ethical issues by grounding our decisions in biblical principles, focusing on the character of Christ, God's commands, and the consideration of consequences. In this episode, John and Daniel go into a framework for Christians to navigate political, cultural, and ethical issues. They emphasize the importance of basing decisions on the character and commands of God, rather than purely consequentialist thinking. Key topics include the sanctity of life, the abortion debate, and the process of aligning political stances with a biblical worldview. Through their discussion, they offer Christians practical tools and insights for making morally grounded decisions in a politically divided world. Get the Book on Following Jesus in a Politically Divided World: https://a.co/d/35XLxSE Key Takeaways 00:00 Introduction and Greetings 00:32 Discussing Right and Wrong 02:27 Philosophical Approaches to Ethics 05:07 Consequentialism and Its Pitfalls 07:22 Christian Perspective on Ethics 11:23 Teaching Ethics to Children 13:03 Sanctity of Life and Abortion Debate 25:45 Summarizing the Ethical Framework Get the Premium Podcast Subscription: https://reallifetheologypodcast.supercast.com/ Check out RENEW.org for more articles and resources: https://renew.org/ View more information about this topic here: https://renew.org/product/following-jesus-in-a-politically-divided-world-an-interactive-guide-to-21-questions-on-christianity-and-politics/ See below for a more comprehensive discussion of this topic: In this episode John Whittaker and Daniel McCoy discuss how Christians should approach political, cultural, and ethical issues through a biblical lens. They aim to help Christians ground their decisions in biblical principles, focusing on character, commands, and consequences. The episode begins with a friendly exchange between John and Daniel, who reflect on their ongoing discussions about politics and faith, highlighted in their book on following Jesus in a divided world. Their goal is to understand how to honor Jesus over nationalistic values. John introduces the main topic: developing a framework for addressing complex political and ethical issues. He stresses the importance of understanding the guiding principles behind decisions of right and wrong. Daniel notes that many people rely on gut feelings, which can align with biblical moral sense, but acknowledges that humans often struggle to consistently follow moral laws. They discuss consequentialism, an ethical theory where the moral worth of an action is judged by its outcomes. Daniel explains various ethical theories—virtue ethics, Kantian deontological ethics, and consequentialism. He points out that many people are consequentialists, making decisions based on perceived benefits. However, he warns that while consequences matter, they should be grounded in fundamental principles like God's character and commands. John and Daniel explore how these ethical theories impact political decisions, noting that debates often revolve around consequentialist arguments. While the Bible acknowledges the importance of consequences, it emphasizes that moral decisions should be rooted in God's commands and character. Daniel uses utilitarianism to illustrate the dangers of basing moral decisions solely on outcomes. The discussion shifts to how Christians should navigate ethical issues by prioritizing Christ's character and God's commands. Daniel outlines a three-part approach: starting with the character of Christ, following God's commandments, and considering the consequences. He emphasizes that Christians should base their ethical decisions on Jesus' virtues and biblical values, avoiding arbitrary or outcome-based reasoning. John adds that reflecting God's character and obeying His commands align with our nature as beings made in God's image, fulfilling our purpose. He notes that holiness and human nature complement each other. They then apply this framework to the issue of abortion and the sanctity of human life. They start by examining God's character, emphasizing His value of human life and children. They contrast this with the dehumanizing actions associated with evil, such as murder and lying. The conversation highlights the biblical commandment "do not murder" as a clear directive against taking innocent life. Daniel addresses debates around personhood and fetal status, arguing that the Bible's emphasis on the sanctity of human life should shape the Christian stance on abortion. He warns against redefining life to justify abortion. Daniel critiques ethicist Michael Tooley's argument, which separates human life from personhood to reduce stigma around abortion and infanticide. He points out the dangers of arbitrary criteria for personhood, which can lead to broader justifications for dehumanization. John references Peter Kreeft's book "The Unaborted Socrates," which argues against abortion by affirming the personhood of preborn babies. While Daniel agrees, he cautions against relying solely on personhood arguments and stresses the need to focus on biblical teachings about the sanctity of human life. The episode wraps up with practical advice for applying the framework to ethical issues. Daniel suggests that Christians form ethical statements based on God's character and commands while considering consequences. For example, statements might affirm the value of human life, obedience to the command not to murder, and support for pro-life laws, while showing compassion for those affected by abortion. John underscores the importance of clear ethical statements for guiding Christians in their decisions, emphasizing that this framework, as detailed in their book, helps Christians navigate political and cultural issues biblically. Interested in more content from RENEW? Sign up for our newsletter: https://renew.org/resources/newsletter-sign-up/ Follow us!
I discuss James Olson's book "Fair Play," and discuss whether participation in government and empire is possible without moral compromise. A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot Thanks to our monthly supporters Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
www.shyam-ranganathan.info | @yogaphilosophy_com | amazon books Dr. Shyam Ranganathan discusses explores the themes of yoga, anti-colonial philosophy, and action-focused guide to practice. He highlights the concept of the Linguistic Account of Thought (LAT) and how it has led to cultural filtering and colonialism. He also explains the difference between understanding and belief, emphasizing that action is about choice, not belief. Dr. Ranganathan challenges the Western appropriation of yoga and the secularization of Indian philosophy, advocating for a more nuanced and responsible approach to understanding other cultures. Support Keen on Yoga
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In this episode I explore eight reasons why the Lesser of Two Evils Ethic fails. To listen to a whole season about consequentialism and the LOTE, check out seasons 2 and 6 of this podcast. A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot Thanks to our monthly supporters Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
Friday Night Live 17 May 2024In this episode, we engage in a lively discussion filled with amusing personal anecdotes and valuable insights on relationships and dating. We cover diverse topics from cultural differences in relationships to unconventional dating advice, emphasizing the importance of maintaining individuality. We tackle the hazards of excuses and stress the need for personal accountability in all aspects of life. Additionally, we delve into confronting emotional abuse, human instincts, and the role of hope in relationships, advocating for practicality over baseless optimism. Transitioning to thought-provoking subjects like consequentialism and the pivotal role of rest in optimizing performance, we reflect on personal growth and express gratitude for audience support while sharing insights into resources for enriching the journey of personal development.Join the PREMIUM philosophy community on the web for free!NOW AVAILABLE FOR SUBSCRIBERS: MY NEW BOOK 'PEACEFUL PARENTING' - AND THE INTERACTIVE PEACEFUL PARENTING AI AND AUDIOBOOK!Also get the Truth About the French Revolution, the interactive multi-lingual philosophy AI trained on thousands of hours of my material, private livestreams, premium call in shows, the 22 Part History of Philosophers series and much more!See you soon!https://freedomain.locals.com/support/promo/UPB2022
Does the world seem less than perfect? Could humans do better? Is it possible to achieve an ideal? In this episode, Danny and Randy discuss whether we can ever achieve an ideal world.Subscribe to ESP's YouTube Channel! Thanks for listening! Do you have a question you want answered in a future episode? If so, send your question to: existentialstoic@protonmail.com Danny, Randy, and their good friend, Russell, created a new podcast, CodeNoobs, for anyone interested in tech and learning how to code. Listen to CodeNoobs now online, CodeNoobs-podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
In which Beth McKenney joins Ethan and Jo to explain three ethical theories (and a secret fourth option!) that could be applied to our conundrum in the episode, "K*ant" from February. Transcripts, when available, can be found at patreon.com/wthiap. Just search for the episode title. Don't see a transcript you're looking for? Let us know via email. Find all things WTHIAP at wthiap.com.
Peter Singer delves into difficult ethical questions regarding animal rights, the morality of factory farming, and difficult human-related ethical dilemmas. Singer discusses his views as a consequentialist, examining the impact of our choices on animal suffering, the ethical considerations around organ donation from anencephalic children, and the broader implications of such decisions. What are the moral implications of eating meat from factory farms versus ethically raised animals, and cannibalism under hypothetical scenarios with no harm to others? Singer emphasizes the need for considering the consequences of our actions, shedding light on the pressing need to reform our food production systems and make more ethical choices in our daily lives. Peter Singer's Substack: https://substack.com/profile/4270932-peter-singer Peter Singer's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@peter_singer Peter Singer's book, ‘Animal Liberation Now': https://www.amazon.com/Animal-Liberation-Now-Definitive-Classic/dp/0063226707 00:00 A Philosophical Dive into Animal Rights with Peter Singer 00:12 Exploring the Ethical Dilemmas of Human and Animal Lives 01:59 The Complexities of Organ Donation from Anencephalic Children 03:57 Comparing Human and Animal Rights in Medical Contexts 06:08 Consequentialism and Individual Case Analysis in Ethics 07:42 The Ethical Quandaries of Parental Consent and Medical Decisions 15:54 Navigating the Slippery Slope of Euthanasia and Assisted Dying 25:41 The Ethical Considerations of Eating Meat and Factory Farming 33:29 The Harsh Realities of Factory Farming 34:45 Ethical Considerations and the Nature of Animal Suffering 36:50 Addressing Common Objections to Animal Rights 41:12 The Impact of Individual Choices on Animal Suffering 43:43 The Role of Vegetarianism and Veganism in Reducing Demand for Meat 01:00:46 Exploring the Ethical Implications of Consuming Expired or Discarded Meat 01:04:50 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/braininavat/message
David takes the first ten minutes to respond to Twitter trolls over his latest New York Times article before he and Sarah revisit their arguments over the Supreme Court's per curium ruling on the Trump-Colorado case. The Agenda: —Defending the Supreme Court —Erasing the Constitution —Confusion over the Trump ruling —Consequentialism vs. originalism —Judicial restraint and originalism —Erasing Chevron —SCOTUS hears bump stock case —Explaining the string cheese factors Show Notes: -Kevin Williamson: Slate Publishes Gun-Control Fiction -Advisory Opinions Episode with Professor Amanda Tyler Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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On today's episode, Frank and Megan are going to the gridiron to talk about football. What are the metaphysical identity conditions for sports teams? What makes a rule a good rule? Why is steroid use banned, but special training encouraged? Is the Super Bowl a distinctly American ritual? Will data analysts replace coaches? And does the extreme injury risk of football make it America's most immoral pastime?-----------------------Hosts' Websites:Megan J Fritts (google.com)Frank J. Cabrera (google.com)Email: philosophyonthefringes@gmail.com-----------------------Bibliography:Take Your Eye Off the Ball 2.0 | Triumph BooksThe Only Good Reason to Ban Steroids in Baseball: To Prevent an Arms Race - The AtlanticFull Body Swimsuit Now Banned for Professional Swimmers - ABC News (go.com)How The NFL Uses Analytics, According To The Lead Analyst Of A Super Bowl Champion (forbes.com)4th down aggressiveness increasing rapidly across NFL | AP NewsNFL running backs meet to discuss position's depressed wages | NFL | The GuardianCollective Force of Head Hits Increases Odds of CTE, Study Says - The New York Times (nytimes.com)BU Finds CTE in Nearly 92 Percent of Ex-NFL Players Studied | The Brink | Boston UniversityEstimating the prevalence at death of CTE neuropathology among professional football players | NeurologyStudy finds CTE in 40 percent of athletes who died before 30 - ABC News (go.com)Could CTE in the NFL Be Solved by OSHA? - Global Sport MattersShip of Theseus | Definition, Examples, & Solutions | BritannicaVirtue Ethics and Consequentialism in Early Chinese Philosophy (pp. 101-117)Pragmatism and Reference (pp. 195-6 discusses the Browns/Ravens case)-----------------------Cover Artwork by Logan Fritts-------------------------Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):https://uppbeat.io/t/simon-folwar/neon-signsLicense code: RZMGXZY5O2AIXNTQ
there are so many different "consequentialisms" out there + it's important to not get lost in the "sauce" of the different combinations, but focus on the perspectives you can manage now, ideally the ones that affect you, your community, and the world around you. RESOURCE: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/consequentialism/GET AN OCCASIONAL PERSONAL EMAIL FROM ME: www.makeyourdamnbedpodcast.comTUNE IN ON INSTAGRAM FOR COOL CONTENT: www.instagram.com/mydbpodcastOR BE A REAL GEM + TUNE IN ON PATREON: www.patreon.com/MYDBpodcastOR WATCH ON YOUTUBE: www.youtube.com/juliemerica The opinions expressed by Julie Merica and Make Your Damn Bed Podcast are intended for entertainment purposes only. Make Your Damn Bed podcast is not intended or implied to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Get bonus content on PatreonSupport this show http://supporter.acast.com/make-your-damn-bed. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Is it wrong to tell a little white lie in order to save an oppressed minority you're harboring in order to avoid genocide? Such a claim seems unreasonable and unlovingly rigid. In this episode we look at the ramifications of accepting lying as a moral option. A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The 80% (My Book): https://www.amazon.com/80-Conservative-Evangelicals-Prove-Relativists-ebook/dp/B07RDPW2NZ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=j.g.+elliot&qid=1573560697&sr=8-1 Various reflections related to consequentialism: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/category/pragmatism-and-consequentialism Great real-life example of integrity in doing right while refusing to lie: https://wagingnonviolence.org/podcast/city-of-refuge-part-1/ Spotify Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4VSvC0SJYwku2U0awRaNAu?si=3ad0b2fbed2e4864 Thanks to our monthly supporters Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
This episode explores the moral system which not only provides us purpose, but secures it as well. 0:00 - Preface11:30 - Introduction18:15 - Incoherence of Current Moral Theories19:50 - Virtue Ethics & Arbitrariness20:55 - Consequentialism & Arbitrariness21:55 - Deontological & Arbitrariness24:15 - Virtue Ethics & Egoism30:50 - Deontology & Egoism33:00 - Consequentialism & Egoism37:35 - How does the resurrection fix arbitrariness and egoism?39:10 - Purpose and existence in creation42:10 - Separation from purpose and existence45:15 - What the resurrection gets us - theosis52:10 - Existence and pure nature are required for purpose and morality57:50 - Privation theory of evil1:02:50 - Isn't hope in resurrection a self-centered hope?1:11:35 - Resurrection prevents the sacrifice of other1:21:45 - Means are concomitant with their ends1:23:20 - Conclusion1:25:45 - Implications on Christian Anarchism and Othering A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music! Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/ Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tour YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriber Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/ My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot Spotify Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4VSvC0SJYwku2U0awRaNAu?si=3ad0b2fbed2e4864 Video Interview Version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a1tsRIJQCw&list=PLNrd6lQRh0iZzSxgMo_zhz69clqkD0W9J&index=12 Necessity of the Resurrection Article: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/a-morality-of-being Christian Anarchism: A Political Commentary on the Gospel: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7106065-christian-anarchism?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=Fiu9MyYhqw&rank=1 How Did Sin Originate in a Perfect World? discuss essences and adjoining to God through theosis: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/how-did-sin-originate-in-a-perfect-world (96) S6E4 Means and Ends: Purposing: rooting purpose rather than creating it, and how purpose is relationalhttps://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/means-and-ends-purposing Hitchens vs. Hitchens Debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNlskhOlYBY Making Sense out of Suffering: https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/5813894879 Thanks to our monthly supporters Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
Live from the University of Virginia and before a strangely happy group of law students, Sarah and David cover a range of topics from a convicted rapper who blames AI, disruptions at the Supreme Court, the Fifth Circuit becoming the new Ninth Circuit, and ethics with Amy (Justice Barrett). The hosts then take a series of questions from UVA students. God blesses this podcast. -Does Sarah know her husband's phone number? -AI briefs and ineffective counsel -SC justices interrupting female attorneys -Justice Barrett's opinion on SC ethics -Relationships on the court -Fifth Circuit is the new Ninth -Empirical SCOTUS -If the SC adopts a code of ethics, what should it be? -Consequentialism, institutionalism, and other ism's -What SC topics will motivate voters going forward? -Why is the court not interested in nationwide injunctions? Show notes: -Josh Gerstein reporting on Fugees' trial -Fugees Trial Motion -Cert grant for Chevron doctrine -Supreme Court justices interrupt female attorneys more often than men -Justice Barrett on ethics -NetChoice, LLC v. Paxton -CFPB v. Community Financial Services Association of America, Limited -SEC v. Jarkesy -Campos-Chaves v Garland -West Point Affirmative Action lawsuit -City of Philidelphia v. Fulton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
I chat with Taylor Storey about the false prophet and true prophet forms of Christianity.0:00 - Preface3:35 - Context for the episode9:15 - Taylor's Intro13:00 - Christianity vs. Christendom22:50 - True vs. False Prophets31:45 - Importance of Ideals48:00 - Kierkegaard vs. the State59:15 - Rise of Fundamentalism: Moody1:21:30 - J.G. Machen1:31:00 - Graham1:43:00 - Rotten Fruit or Rotten Tree?1:54:00 - Nietzsche and Christendom2:02:30 - Reagan2:19:30 - Conservative Christian Hypocrisy2:26:00 - Living as True Prophets2:31:00 - Where is Christendom Now? A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music! Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/ Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tour YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriber Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/ My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot My Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=true Original Questions: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12xkkzrPcjUl6FW2dI_4W9od5b8XKzZ3uX0GzJ8DS3Pk/edit?usp=sharing YouTube Version: https://youtu.be/4ezljc3amZk Episode on Webb and Contras: https://share.transistor.fm/s/d11106fb Episode on Haiti: Episode on Benjamin Lay: https://share.transistor.fm/s/3b132020 Episode w/Dru Johnson: https://share.transistor.fm/s/af57661b Episode on Eudaimonism: https://share.transistor.fm/s/361fd579 Previous Interview w/Taylor: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/s9e31-interview-taylor-storey-communisms-bad-rap Kierkegaard's Fear and Trembling: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24965.Fear_and_Trembling?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=RmOBOyuELQ&rank=1 Kierkegaard's Attack Upon Christendom: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/352087.Attack_upon_Christendom?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=6hAsJsMNbW&rank=1 Kierkegaard's Training in Christianity: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1140784.Training_in_Christianity?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_24 Kierkegaard's Sickness Unto Death: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/24972.The_Sickness_Unto_Death?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_19 Le Bon's The Crowd: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54062407-the-crowd---gustave-le-bon-modern-library-classics?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=hDXIaSMGTS&rank=1 Taylor's Articles: Niebuhr's King's Chapel and the King's Court: https://www.religion-online.org/article/the-kings-chapel-and-the-kings-court/ Frederick Douglas's Autobiography: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27608714-narrative-of-the-life-of-frederick-douglas?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=QT757zDhxO&rank=2 This Vast Southern Empire: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29940843-this-vast-southern-empire?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_24 Guaranteed Pure: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23371457-guaranteed-pure?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=qHWlbIx02U&rank=1 Fundamentalist U: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36794095-fundamentalist-u?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_16 Machen's Christianity and Liberalism: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/156871.Christianity_and_Liberalism?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_34 The Fundamentals: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fundamentals Kruz's One Nation Under God: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22928900-one-nation-under-god?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=550ylbLV8n&rank=1 Fitzgerald's The Evangelicals: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30753872-the-evangelicals?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_23 Falwell's Of Ministers and Marches: https://liberty.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p17184coll4/id/4090/ City of Refuge Podcast: https://wagingnonviolence.org/podcast/city-of-refuge-part-1/ Cone's Cross and the Lynching Tree: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12417679-the-cross-and-the-lynching-tree?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_23 Nietzsche's Antichrist: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/441274.The_Antichrist?ref=nav_sb_ss_2_20 Nietzsche's Will to Power: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43864874-friedrich-nietzsche-collection?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=1B2vF3YlRf&rank=2 Kierkegaard Explained: https://youtu.be/ZQD4fm5MO1s Thanks to our monthly supporters Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
In this interview I had the privilege of talking with Dr. George Kalantzis about his book, "Caesar and the Lamb," and the topic of sacralism. 0:00 - Introduction4:00 - Sacralism14:40 - Origin stories18:25 - Voting27:30 - Consequentialism30:00 - Discipleship34:50 - Dr. Kalantzis introduction36:45 - Define and explain Sacralism42:30 - Why can't we see Sacralism?48:35 - Veneration vs. Worship of state52:50 - Importance of origin stories and myth63:00 - Sacralism as unification and absolution75:00 - Voting as a sacral act81:15 - Consequentialism and power84:00 - Propaganda and orthopraxy93:10 - Where do we go from here?A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music!Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tourYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriberInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_ElliotSpotify Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4VSvC0SJYwku2U0awRaNAu?si=3ad0b2fbed2e4864Interview Questions: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WZpI_296MIF4UUd5yM4x9XHx8F2puZlGzH24EoRnXao/edit?usp=sharingCaesar and the Lamb: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16237822-caesar-and-the-lamb?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_19Anatomy of a Hybrid: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1461694.The_anatomy_of_a_hybrid?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_19A Hidden Life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJXmdY4lVR0Martyrdom and Memory: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20178705-martyrdom-and-memory?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=hNKyGMHx3z&rank=1Desiring the Kingdom: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/subscribeHauerwas's "The Sacrifices of War and the Sacrifice of Christ:" https://www.abc.net.au/religion/the-sacrifices-of-war-and-the-sacrifice-of-christ/10098368 On Revolution: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/127232.On_RevolutionChristian Nonresistance in All its Important Bearings: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1610861.Christian_Non_Resistance?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=idCkDpGUHe&rank=3Morality of Being Episode: https://share.transistor.fm/s/d6e0f66eDr. Kalantzis's interview w/Preston Sprinkle: https://theologyintheraw.com/podcast/the-early-church-on-military-service-and-killing-dr-george-kalantzis/James K.A. Smith's Mall: https://jameskasmith.com/the-mall-as-consumerist-cathedral/ Arendt's Quote: The word religion must be understood in its original roman sense and [the piety of the founders] would then consist in binding themselves back to a beginning as roman pietas consisted in being bound back to the beginning of roman history the foundation of the eternal city…… And since it was in this respect that the American revolution was most conspicuously different from all other revolutions which were to follow, one was tempted to conclude that it was the authority that the act of foundation carried in itself rather than the belief in an eternal legislator, or the promises of reward and the threats of punishment in a future state, or even the doubtful self-evidence of the truths enumerated in the preamble to the declaration of independence that assured stability for the New Republic. Ballou's Quote: As constituent supporters of human government, ( whether civil or military, or a compound of both -) in its state or national sovereignty, men are morally responsible for all constitutions, institutions, laws, processes, and usages, which they have pledged themselves to support, or which they avowedly approve, or which they depend upon as instrumentalities for securing and promoting their personal welfare, or in which they acquiesce without positive remonstrance and disfellowship. Thus if a political compact, a civil or military league, covenant, or constitution, requires, authorizes, provides for, or tolerates war, bloodshed, capital punishment, slavery, or any kind of absolute injury - offensive or defensive, the man who swears, affirms, or otherwise pledges himself to support such a compact, league, covenant, or constitution, is just as responsible for every act of injury done in strict conformity thereto, as if he himself personally committed it. He is not responsible for abuses and violations of the constitution.But for all that is constitutionally done he is responsible. The army is his army, the navy his navy, the militia his militia, the gallows his gallows, the -^ pillory his pillory, the whipping-post his whipping-post, the branding-iron his branding-iron, the prison to prison, the dungeon his dungeon, and the slaveholding his slaveholding. When the constitutional majority declare war, it is his war. All the slaughter, rapine, ravages, robbery, destruction, and mischief committed under that declaration, in accordance with the laws of war, are his. Nor can he exculpate himself by pleading that he was one of a strenuous anti-war minority in the government. He was in the government. He had sworn, affirmed, or otherwise pledged himself, that the majority should have discretionary power to declare war. He tied up his hands with that anti-Christian obligation, to stand by the majority in all the crimes and abominations inseparable from war. It is therefore his war, its murders are his murders, its horrible injuries on humanity are his injuries. " They are all committed with his solemn sanction. There is no escape from this terrible moral responsibility but by a conscientious withdrawal from such government, and an uncompromising protest against so much of its fundamental creed and constitutional law, as is decidedly anti-Christian. He must cease to be its pledged supporter and approving dependent. Thanks to our monthly supporters Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
I reckon most of us have heard about toxic behaviour in our hobby. Some of us will have experienced it directly. Many of us can probably name at least one bad actor who is still present in our community. There are also publishers who still work with these people, despite there having been public outrage about the person's behaviour or actions and the person not showing any remorse or accepting any responsibility. As a reviewer, my initial reaction is not to review games from those publishers, let alone if a toxic person has worked on them in any capacity. However, as I want to discuss in this article, things aren't always that black and white. Read the full article here: https://tabletopgamesblog.com/2023/09/12/reviews-bad-actors-and-consequentialism-reviewing-games-from-controversial-publishers-topic-discussion/ Intro Music: Bomber (Sting) by Riot (https://www.youtube.com/audiolibrary/) Music by AShamaluevMusic.Website: https://www.ashamaluevmusic.com Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/tabletopgamesblog Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/TabletopGamesBlog Website: https://tabletopgamesblog.com/ (Photo by Kenny Eliason on Unsplash) --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/tabletopgamesblog/message
Using James Olson's book, "Fair Play," I look at how moral compromise is inevitable if one chooses to participate in government. A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music! Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/ Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tour YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriber Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/ My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot Spotify Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4VSvC0SJYwku2U0awRaNAu?si=3ad0b2fbed2e4864 Al Mohler's Interview: https://albertmohler.com/2021/04/28/james-olson Fair Play: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/176691.Fair_Play?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=H2HqctGyh2&rank=1 Lying Episode: https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/finished-augustine-and-lying Thanks to our monthly supporters Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
We take a look at the centuries long conspiracy of the U.S. against Haiti. 0:00 - Introduction9:20 - What's in a Myth?15:15 - What is Conspiracy?17:35 - Wade in the Water20:00 - Columbus in Haiti24:00 - Haitian Revolution32:30 - French Revolution41:30 - Condercet, Galton, & Le Bon49:40 - Threat of a Good Example55:55 - Haiti's Reparations59:40 - Frederick Douglass in Haiti1:03:55 - Spain, Philippines, & Cuba1:13:00 - U.S. Invades Haiti1:25:55 - Dogs on a Leash1:35:40 - Coups A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music! Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/ Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tour YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriber Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/ My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot Spotify Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4VSvC0SJYwku2U0awRaNAu?si=3ad0b2fbed2e4864 Episode Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vPjVG55_B5mC4mHEP-hdx0RwRnbisd9z4kpwn9h83O8/edit?usp=sharing Balasa's Paintings: https://www.wikiart.org/en/sabin-balasa Robert Meeropol Episode: https://share.transistor.fm/s/bd7d18d2 What to Believe Now: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/14319314-what-to-believe-now?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=XiqRqlKrUb&rank=1 The Crowd: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25870624-the-crowd?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_16 Threat of a Good Example: Confessions of an Economic Hit Man: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26593431-the-new-confessions-of-an-economic-hit-man?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=LzlDcuvBRW&rank=2 Fresh Fruit, Broken Bodies: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16145154-fresh-fruit-broken-bodies?ref=nav_sb_ss_2_13 OEC Imports/Exports: https://oec.world/en/profile/country/hti?yearlyTradeFlowSelector=flow1 Haiti's self-sufficiency: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/poverty-matters/2011/may/13/haitians-self-sufficiency#:~:text=When%20the%20cost%20of%20US,the%20dependence%20on%20food%20aid Truth About Haiti: https://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5018 America Invades Haiti: https://sociology.yale.edu/sites/default/files/invasion_of_grenada_foresight.pdf America Invades Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2R_FyKisRk Threat of a Good Example: https://chomsky.info/unclesam01/ U.K. Pays Slaveholders: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/30/fact-check-u-k-paid-off-debts-slave-owning-families-2015/3283908001/ Lincoln and Slavery: https://www.history.com/news/abraham-lincoln-black-resettlement-haiti Colonizing Freed Slaves: https://www.cairn.info/revue-francaise-d-etudes-americaines-2015-1-page-6.htm Code Noir: https://blogs.loc.gov/law/2011/01/slavery-in-the-french-colonies/ Paul Farmer: https://religionandpolitics.org/2016/03/01/the-liberation-theology-of-dr-paul-farmer/ The Uses of Haiti: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10234.The_Uses_of_Haiti?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=h6F1axpyr9&rank=1 Charlamagne Peralte: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne_P%C3%A9ralte Jefferson on Taking Land: https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/01-39-02-0500 Douglass and American Empire: https://reparationscomm.org/reparations-news/editors-choice/frederick-douglass-and-american-empire-in-haiti/ Smedley Butler and Haiti: https://newrepublic.com/article/164825/smedley-butler-marine-critic-american-empire Jefferson to Madison: https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Jefferson/98-01-02-3827 Damn the Filipinos: https://www.lyricsondemand.com/u/unknownlyrics/damndamndamnthefilipinoslyrics.html Jefferson on Haiti: https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2010/01/americas-curse-on-haiti/34183/ Hamilton for Haiti: https://itshamiltime.com/2012/12/07/hamiltons-views-on-race-and-slavery-haiti/#:~:text=Hamilton%20supported%20the%20Haitian%20revolution,of%20a%20free%20black%20republic Rochambeau Genocide: http://islandluminous.fiu.edu/part02-slide13.html Haiti's Nightmare: https://thevillagesun.com/haitis-nightmare-the-cocaine-coup-the-c-i-a-connection Dependency: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPdV7ShkVic How Europe Underdeveloped Africa: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40630.How_Europe_Underdeveloped_Africa?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_19 General Clark on Conspiracy of Empire: https://youtu.be/6Knt3rKTqCk U.S. Assassinations and Coups: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/05/cia-long-history-kill-leaders-around-the-world-north-korea Every Coup Mapped: https://youtu.be/_wIOqHSsV9c U.S. and the DR: https://progressive.org/40-years-later-u.s.-invasion-still-haunts-dominican-republic/ Dominican Republic and Clientism: https://www.jstor.org/stable/29766464 Thanks to our monthly supporters Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music! Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/ Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tour YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriber Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/ My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot My Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=true Episode Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GQmQMvMCNM_9VmE0UlgRsQX6G0mV-hebOtN0fYIucSM/edit?usp=sharing How We Advertised America: https://www.loc.gov/item/20010648/ The Collaboration: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17804358-the-collaboration?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=8ruBrnUFN0&rank=4 The Collaboration Review: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/09/16/hitler-in-hollywood Review 2: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/how-could-harvard-have-published-ben-urwands-the-collaboration The Sacrifices of War and the Sacrifice of Christ: https://www.abc.net.au/religion/the-sacrifices-of-war-and-the-sacrifice-of-christ/10098368 Immigration Policy and the Holocaust: https://exhibitions.ushmm.org/americans-and-the-holocaust/how-many-refugees-came-to-the-united-states-from-1933-1945 Hollywood Sells War: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4szttm_e0Ic Hollywood Became Propaganda: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/how-hollywood-became-the-unofficial-propaganda-arm-of-the-u-s-military-1.5560575 Documentation: https://web.archive.org/web/20170704225137/https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/exclusive-documents-expose-direct-us-military-intelligence-influence-on-1-800-movies-and-tv-shows-36433107c307 DOD Collaboration Films: https://www.spyculture.com/updated-complete-list-of-dod-films/ Crime Reporting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCOnGjvYKI0 Law and Order Propaganda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNy6F7ZwX8I Manipulating the Masses: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53232641-manipulating-the-masses?ref=nav_sb_ss_1_23 Thanks to our monthly supporters Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
CIB turns 150 episodes young with an extended summation of the end of Little League season, quick thoughts on the Titan submersible, a response to Peter Singer's famous essay about ending world poverty, and plenty more. Listen, if you must! Has something we said, or failed to say, made you FEEL something? You can tell us all about it on Facebook or Twitter, leave a comment on the show's page on our website, or you can send us an email here. Enjoy!Show RundownOpen — Baseball season ends in heartbreak, injustice, and righteous moral certitude42:15 — Titan submersible disaster45:20 — Peter Singer Solution To World Poverty: just what's this asshole's problem?1:23:52 — Yevgeny Prigozhin tries to maybe have a little coup/not really a coup in Russia1:28:51 — Wrap-up! Asteroid City, No Hard Feelings, The BlackeningRelevant Linkage can be found at the page for this episode on our website at https://www.brainiron.com/podcast/episode0150
Jay Shapiro is an award winning filmmaker, writer, & podcaster. He directed the film Islam & the Future of Tolerance, based around a post 9/11 conversation between Sam Harris & Maajid Nawaz. He produces and creates a wide range of content, writes on his "What Jay Thinks" blog & hosts the Dilemma podcast - I had the pleasure of being his guest for a Dilemma hangout about Sentientism back in 2020. He loves thoughtful deep dives into philosophy, psychology, & political analysis. In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what's real?” & “who matters?” Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is here on YouTube. We discuss: 00:00 Welcome 01:54 Jay Intro - The Essential #samharris series - Documentary & narrative film-making - "I really want to understand ideas... and transmit those to an audience... even if I totally disagree with the idea" 03:16 What's Real? - Growing up in a secular #Jewish household - "Post-holocaust American judaism is it's own brand... a very ethical & political tribe more than a religious one" - "Never again becomes the holiest prayer" - Psychologist dad, guidance counsellor mum - "I'm a boring naturalist but... I love analogies for what it feels like to exist" - Kurt Vonnegut's Slaughterhouse-Five "Oh... This is what I like" - An over-active imagination as a kid... "my scientists", The Truman Show, solipsism, Philip K Dick & #scifi - #Meditation, #psychedelics, religious experiences... "scrambles the dials" - Donald Hoffman's "The Case Against Reality" - How evolution shapes our construction of experiences of reality - Psychedelics help us "catch it in the act" of reality construction - "There's much more out there" e.g. non-human sentient experiences - "It reminds you of the expansiveness of reality rather than show you a new one" - The National High School Ethics Bowl - Anil Seth's "How your brain hallucinates reality" @TED - Annika Harris's exploration of consciousness theories re: "The Hard Question" - "Reality is awesome enough - who needs magic" (I mis-spoke!) - Epistemological tests?: atheism, veganism, spherical earth... - Writing about Sam Harris, not for him - Object-oriented ontology - #psychology "I don't think we're the rational animal... we're the rationalising animal" - How people respond to #cognitivedissonance (Leon Festinger) "they really don't like it" - Criticising #consequentialism "you can justify anything... wait long enough and the consequences will work out... where do you stop the clock... too easy to find an out" - #Virtueethics "Secular virtue" (vs. religious views of virtue) - What happens after noticing the cognitive dissonance. More about psychology & values more than epistemology? - Coping mechanisms. Consequentialism, capitalism, economics... give people outs to "quiet these voices in their heads" - Neil Levy "people are more rational than you think" https://youtu.be/Tp40ga1cXEc - Qanon, Goop products... everyone selects evidence/sources to suit themselves - Believing unfounded things can be a "rational" response to existential crises / the discomfort of cognitive dissonance 37:45 What Matters? - "There is no grounding (to ethics)" - David Hume's "unbreachable" is-ought chasm - "If you hate Sam (Harris) I think you'll like a lot of what I do there" (the Foundations of Morality episode of The Essential Sam Harris - There is a relationship between is and ought but "It's up to us to define that relationship" 58:50 Who Matters? 01:50:49 How Can We Make A Better Future? ...and much more. Full show notes at Sentientism.info. Sentientism is “Evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings.” More at Sentientism.info. Join our "I'm a Sentientist" wall via this simple form. Everyone, Sentientist or not, is welcome in our groups. The biggest so far is here on FaceBook. Come join us there!
Support us! https://www.patreon.com/mlst MLST Discord: https://discord.gg/aNPkGUQtc5 In this podcast with the legendary Connor Leahy (CEO Conjecture) recorded in Dec 2022, we discuss various topics related to artificial intelligence (AI), including AI alignment, the success of ChatGPT, the potential threats of artificial general intelligence (AGI), and the challenges of balancing research and product development at his company, Conjecture. He emphasizes the importance of empathy, dehumanizing our thinking to avoid anthropomorphic biases, and the value of real-world experiences in learning and personal growth. The conversation also covers the Orthogonality Thesis, AI preferences, the mystery of mode collapse, and the paradox of AI alignment. Connor Leahy expresses concern about the rapid development of AI and the potential dangers it poses, especially as AI systems become more powerful and integrated into society. He argues that we need a better understanding of AI systems to ensure their safe and beneficial development. The discussion also touches on the concept of "futuristic whack-a-mole," where futurists predict potential AGI threats, and others try to come up with solutions for those specific scenarios. However, the problem lies in the fact that there could be many more scenarios that neither party can think of, especially when dealing with a system that's smarter than humans. https://www.linkedin.com/in/connor-j-leahy/https://twitter.com/NPCollapse Interviewer: Dr. Tim Scarfe (Innovation CTO @ XRAI Glass https://xrai.glass/) TOC: The success of ChatGPT and its impact on the AI field [00:00:00] Subjective experience [00:15:12] AI Architectural discussion including RLHF [00:18:04] The paradox of AI alignment and the future of AI in society [00:31:44] The impact of AI on society and politics [00:36:11] Future shock levels and the challenges of predicting the future [00:45:58] Long termism and existential risk [00:48:23] Consequentialism vs. deontology in rationalism [00:53:39] The Rationalist Community and its Challenges [01:07:37] AI Alignment and Conjecture [01:14:15] Orthogonality Thesis and AI Preferences [01:17:01] Challenges in AI Alignment [01:20:28] Mechanistic Interpretability in Neural Networks [01:24:54] Building Cleaner Neural Networks [01:31:36] Cognitive horizons / The problem with rapid AI development [01:34:52] Founding Conjecture and raising funds [01:39:36] Inefficiencies in the market and seizing opportunities [01:45:38] Charisma, authenticity, and leadership in startups [01:52:13] Autistic culture and empathy [01:55:26] Learning from real-world experiences [02:01:57] Technical empathy and transhumanism [02:07:18] Moral status and the limits of empathy [02:15:33] Anthropomorphic Thinking and Consequentialism [02:17:42] Conjecture: Balancing Research and Product Development [02:20:37] Epistemology Team at Conjecture [02:31:07] Interpretability and Deception in AGI [02:36:23] Futuristic whack-a-mole and predicting AGI threats [02:38:27] Refs: 1. OpenAI's ChatGPT: https://chat.openai.com/ 2. The Mystery of Mode Collapse (Article): https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/t9svvNPNmFf5Qa3TA/mysteries-of-mode-collapse 3. The Rationalist Guide to the Galaxy https://www.amazon.co.uk/Does-Not-Hate-You-Superintelligence/dp/1474608795 5. Alfred Korzybski: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Korzybski 6. Instrumental Convergence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_convergence 7. Orthogonality Thesis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthogonality_thesis 8. Brian Tomasik's Essays on Reducing Suffering: https://reducing-suffering.org/ 9. Epistemological Framing for AI Alignment Research: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Y4YHTBziAscS5WPN7/epistemological-framing-for-ai-alignment-research 10. How to Defeat Mind readers: https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/EhAbh2pQoAXkm9yor/circumventing-interpretability-how-to-defeat-mind-readers 11. Society of mind: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Society-Mind-Marvin-Minsky/dp/0671607405
If you know something, do you know that you know it? Dr. Craig addresses "KK Skepticism" and other questions.
Chris Freiman, a professor of philosophy at William and Mary and the author of several books, talks to us about another philosophy of liberty: consequentialism. First, he talks to us about the importance of philosophy in defending liberty. Then he talks to us about the differences between consequentialism and other liberty philosophies, and we discuss the strengths and weaknesses in its defense of liberty. Never miss another AdamSmithWorks update.Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.
Andrew Kissel has been recreating moral dilemmas like the Trolley Problem in VR at his Virginia Philosophy Reality Lab at Old Dominion University. I had a chance to talk about his work in moral philosophy around catalyzed by Morgan Luck's paper “The gamer's dilemma: An analysis of the arguments for the moral distinction between virtual murder and virtual paedophilia” that tries to define the ethical threshold between different types of virtual wrongdoing. We may have an intuition for why virtual murder in video games is morally justifiable while virtual paedophilia is not, but we explore how the variety of ethical frameworks like Consequentialism, Virtue Ethics, or Deontology break down this problem. Kissel invited me to give a keynote talk at a Exploring the Humanities through VR Workshop held on December 10, 2021 where I presented on “Process Philosophy & VR: The Foundations of Experiential Design.” We debate process relational metaphysics vs substance metaphysics in the last part of this interview, and I'd recommend checking out my conversations with Whitehead scholar Matt Segall here and here as well as with Grant Maxell for more of a deep dive on the nuances of a process-relational perspective and why I think it's so useful for thinking about VR.
Chris Freiman, a professor of philosophy at William and Mary and the author of several books, talks to us about another philosophy of liberty: consequentialism. First, he talks to us about the importance of philosophy in defending liberty. Then he talks to us about the differences between consequentialism and other liberty philosophies, and we discuss its strengths and weaknesses in its defense of liberty. Never miss another AdamSmithWorks update.Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.
YT version (with references): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxaTinmKxs0 Support us! https://www.patreon.com/mlst MLST Discord: https://discord.gg/aNPkGUQtc5 Carla Cremer and Igor Krawczuk argue that AI risk should be understood as an old problem of politics, power and control with known solutions, and that threat models should be driven by empirical work. The interaction between FTX and the Effective Altruism community has sparked a lot of discussion about the dangers of optimization, and Carla's Vox article highlights the need for an institutional turn when taking on a responsibility like risk management for humanity. Carla's “Democratizing Risk” paper found that certain types of risks fall through the cracks if they are just categorized into climate change or biological risks. Deliberative democracy has been found to be a better way to make decisions, and AI tools can be used to scale this type of democracy and be used for good, but the transparency of these algorithms to the citizens using the platform must be taken into consideration. Aggregating people's diverse ways of thinking about a problem and creating a risk-averse procedure gives a likely, highly probable outcome for having converged on the best policy. There needs to be a good reason to trust one organization with the risk management of humanity and all the different ways of thinking about risk must be taken into account. AI tools can help to scale this type of deliberative democracy, but the transparency of these algorithms must be taken into consideration. The ambition of the EA community and Altruism Inc. is to protect and do risk management for the whole of humanity and this requires an institutional turn in order to do it effectively. The dangers of optimization are real, and it is essential to ensure that the risk management of humanity is done properly and ethically. By understanding the importance of aggregating people's diverse ways of thinking about a problem, and creating a risk-averse procedure, it is possible to create a likely, highly probable outcome for having converged on the best policy. Carla Zoe Cremer https://carlacremer.github.io/ Igor Krawczuk https://krawczuk.eu/ Interviewer: Dr. Tim Scarfe TOC: [00:00:00] Introduction: Vox article and effective altruism / FTX [00:11:12] Luciano Floridi on Governance and Risk [00:15:50] Connor Leahy on alignment [00:21:08] Ethan Caballero on scaling [00:23:23] Alignment, Values and politics [00:30:50] Singularitarians vs AI-thiests [00:41:56] Consequentialism [00:46:44] Does scale make a difference? [00:51:53] Carla's Democratising risk paper [01:04:03] Vox article - How effective altruists ignored risk [01:20:18] Does diversity breed complexity? [01:29:50] Collective rationality [01:35:16] Closing statements
Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: In Defense of Wrapper-Minds, published by Thane Ruthenis on December 28, 2022 on The AI Alignment Forum. Recently, there's been a strong push against "wrapper-minds" as a framework. It's argued that there's no specific reason to think that all sufficiently advanced agents would format their goals in terms of expected-utility maximization over future trajectories, and that this view predicts severe problems with e. g. Goodharting that just wouldn't show up in reality. I think these arguments have merit, and the Shard Theory's model definitely seems to correspond to a real stage in agents' value formation. But I'd like to offer a fairly prosaic argument in favor of wrapper-minds. Suppose that we have some agent which is being updated by some greedy optimization process (the SGD, evolution, etc.). On average, updates tend to decrease the magnitude of every subsequent update — with each update, the agent requires less and less correction. We can say that this process optimizes the agent for good performance according to some reward function R, or that it chisels "effective cognition" into that agent according to some rule. The wrapper-mind argument states that any "sufficiently strong" agent found by this process would: Have an explicit representation of R inside itself, which it would explicitly pursue. Pursue only R, at the expense of everything else in the universe. I'll defend them separately. Point 1. It's true that explicit R-optimization is suboptimal for many contexts. Consequentialism is slow, and shallow environment-optimized heuristics often perform just as well while being much faster. Other environments can be just "solved" — an arithmetic calculator doesn't need to be a psychotic universe-eater to do its job correctly. And for more complex environments, we can have shard economies, whose collective goals, taken in sum, would be a strong proxy of R. But suppose that the agent's training environment is very complex and very diverse indeed. Or, equivalently, that it sometimes jumps between many very different and complex environments, and sometimes ends up in entirely novel, never-before-seen situations. We would still want it to do well at R in all such cases. How can we do so? Just "solving" environments, as with arithmetic, may be impossible or computationally intractable. Systems of heuristics or shard economies also wouldn't be up to the task — whatever proxy goal they're optimizing, there'd be at least one environment where it decouples from R. It seems almost tautologically true, here, that the only way to keep an agent pointed at R given this setup is to explicitly point it at R. Nothing else would do! Thus, our optimization algorithm would necessarily find an R-pursuer, if it optimizes an agent for good performance across a sufficiently diverse (set of) environment(s). Point 2. But why would that agent be shaped to pursue only R, and so strongly that it'll destroy everything else? This, more or less, also has to do with environment diversity, plus some instrumental convergence. As the optimization algorithm is shaping our agent, the agent will be placed in environments where it has preciously few resources, or a low probability of scoring well at R (= high probability of receiving a strong update/correction after this episode ends). Without knowing when such a circumstance would arise, how can we prepare our agent for this? We can make it optimize for R strongly, as strongly as it can, in fact. Acquire as much resources as possible, spend them on nothing but R-pursuit, minimize uncertainty of scoring well at R, and so on. Every goal that isn't R would distract from R-pursuit, and therefore lead to failure at some point, and so our optimization algorithm would eventually update such goals away; with update-strength proportional to how distracting a goa...
Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: Instrumental convergence is what makes general intelligence possible, published by tailcalled on November 11, 2022 on LessWrong. TL;DR: General intelligence is possible because solving real-world problems requires solving common subtasks. Common subtasks are what give us instrumental convergence. Common subtasks are also what make AI useful; you want AIs to pursue instrumentally convergent goals. Capabilities research proceeds by figuring out algorithms for instrumentally convergent cognition. Consequentialism and search are fairly general ways of solving common subtasks. General intelligence is possible because solving real-world problems requires solving common subtasks No-free-lunch theorems assert that any cognitive algorithm is equally successful when averaged over all possible tasks. This might sound strange, so here's an intuition pump. Suppose you get a test like 2+2 = _ 32 = _ and so on. One cognitive algorithm would be to evaluate the arithmetic expression and fill the answer in as the result. This algorithm seems so natural that it's hard to imagine how the no-free-lunch theorem could apply to this; what possible task could ever make arithmetic score poorly on questions like the above? Easy: While an arithmetic evaluator would score well if you e.g. get 1 point for each expression you evaluate arithmetically, it would score very poorly if you e.g. lose 1 point for each expression you evaluate arithmetically. This doesn't matter much in the real world because you are much more likely to encounter situations where it's useful to do arithmetic right than you are to encounter situations where it's useful to do arithmetic wrong. No-free-lunch theorems point out that when you average all tasks, useful tasks like "do arithmetic correctly" are perfectly cancelled out by useless tasks like "do arithmetic wrong"; but in reality you don't average over all conceivable tasks. If there were no correlations between subtasks, there would be no generally useful algorithms. And if every goal required a unique algorithm, general intelligence would not exist in any meaningful sense; the generally-useful cognitions are what constitutes general intelligence. Common subtasks are what give us instrumental convergence Instrumental convergence basically reduces to acquiring and maintaining power (when including resources under the definition of power). And this is an instance of common subtasks: lots of strategies require power, so a step in lots of strategies is to accumulate or preserve power. Therefore, just about any highly capable cognitive system is going to be good at getting power. "Common subtasks" views instrumental convergence somewhat more generally than is usually emphasized. For instance, instrumental convergence is not just about goals, but also about cognitive algorithms. Convolutions and big matrix multiplications seem like a common subtask, so they can be considered instrumentally convergent in a more general sense. I don't think this is a major shift from how it's usually thought of; computation and intelligence are usually considered as instrumentally convergent goals, so why not algorithms too? Common subtasks are also what make AI useful; you want AIs to pursue instrumentally convergent goals The logic is simple enough: if you have an algorithm that solves a one-off task, then it is at most going to be useful once. Meanwhile, if you have an algorithm that solves a common task, then that algorithm is commonly useful. An algorithm that can classify images is useful; an algorithm that can classify a single image is not. This applies even to power-seeking. One instance of power-seeking would be earning money; indeed an AI that can autonomously earn money sounds a lot more useful than one that cannot. It even applies to "dark" power-seeking, like social manipulatio...
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Alene is the President and Founder of Legal Impact for Chickens. She graduated from Harvard Law School, clerked for a federal judge and then started litigating for animals. She has worked at People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), the Animal Legal Defense Fund, and The Good Food Institute. Alene is licensed to practice law in New York, the District of Columbia, and California. Alene is committed to helping chickens to honor the memories of her two beloved avian family members, Conrad and Zeke. In Sentientist Conversations we talk about the two most important questions: “what's real?” & “what matters?” Sentientism is "evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings." The video of our conversation is here on YouTube. We discuss: 00:00 Welcome 02:08 Alene's Intro - "Making factory farm cruelty a liability... we sue companies for abusing animals on factory farms" 02:44 What's Real? - Raised #atheist "they didn't teach me anything about god" - A friend & camp counsellor talking about someone who is always watching you - even indoors! - Mum: "Just don't argue with them because you don't want to make them upset" - "I'm an atheist today... because I've never been encouraged to be religious I think I have a much more positive view of #religion " - "It's kind of hard to know if anything's real... I don't feel like I have evidence of anything at all... even that I exist!" - "I do assume there's ground I can walk on... that the things I see are real" - "Day to day I live very much like a naturalistic person" - "There's probably a world outside my body" - Imperfect memory & perception & dreaming - Arbitrary beliefs - "How do I know my mind is functioning correctly?... it helps me have more empathy for people that think very differently" - Risks & harms of bad epistemology - #naturalism vs. #dogma vs. #fideism (#faith) vs. fake naturalism 22:25 What Matters? - "#morality comes from psychology... humans just evolved morality... part of it comes from society" - Descriptive & normative ethics - Relativism - "I have this intuitive sense that suffering is bad & joy is good" - Utilitarianism - Equality - It's hard to convince a psychopath to be moral - "Pick somebody who already cares about suffering... & show them how whoever I'm concerned about is suffering" - #Consequentialism, #virtue ethics, #deontology, #feminist care ethics - Offsetting one being's suffering with the flourishing of another? - #pluralism 38:28 Who Matters? - "I care about animals a lot" ...and much more. Full show notes at Sentientism.info. Sentientism is “Evidence, reason & compassion for all sentient beings.” More at Sentientism.info. Join our "I'm a Sentientist" wall via this simple form. Everyone, Sentientist or not, is welcome in our groups. The biggest so far is here on FaceBook. Come join us there! Thanks Graham.
Welcome to The Nonlinear Library, where we use Text-to-Speech software to convert the best writing from the Rationalist and EA communities into audio. This is: Understanding Conjecture: Notes from Connor Leahy interview, published by Akash on September 15, 2022 on LessWrong. I recently listened to Michaël Trazzi interview Connor Leahy (co-founder & CEO of Conjecture)'s on a podcast called The Inside View (Youtube video here; full video & transcript here). The interview helped me better understand Connor's worldview and Conjecture's theory of change. I'm sharing my notes below. The “highlights” section includes the information I found most interesting/useful. The "full notes" section includes all of my notes. Disclaimer #1: I didn't take notes on the entire podcast. I selectively emphasized the stuff I found most interesting. Note also that these notes were mostly for my understanding, and I did not set out to perfectly or precisely capture Connor's views. Disclaimer #2: I'm always summarizing Connor (even when I write with “I” or “we”— the “I” refers to Connor). I do not necessarily endorse or agree with any of these views. Highlights Timelines 20-30% in the next 5 years. 50% by 2030. 99% by 2100. 1% we already have it (but don't know this yet). Higher uncertainty than Eliezer but generally buys the same arguments. Is mostly like “Eliezer's arguments seem right but how can anyone be so confident about things?” Thoughts on MIRI Dialogues & Eliezer's style An antimeme is something that by its very nature resists being known. Most antimemes are just boring—things you forget about. If you tell someone an antimeme, it bounces off them. So they need to be communicated in a special way. Moral intuitions. Truths about yourself. A psychologist doesn't just tell you “yo, you're fucked up bro.” That doesn't work. A lot of Eliezer's value as a thinker is that he notices & comprehends antimemes. And he figures out how to communicate them. What happened in the MIRI dialogues is that Eliezer was telling Paul “hey, I'm trying to communicate an antimeme to you, but I'm failing because it's really really hard.” Thoughts on Death with Dignity & optimizing for “dignity points” rather than utility The Death with Dignity post is a perfect example of an antimeme. A great way to convey antimemes is through jokes and things outside the Overton Window. The antimeme is that utilitarianism is hard, and no, it's not actually a good idea to advocate for really stupid “pivotal acts” that sound ridiculous. Consequentialism is really hard. I have to reason about all of my possible choices and all of their possible consequences. If you have an infinitely big brain, this works. If not, it doesn't. It's too computationally hard to be a perfect consequentialist. And being an imperfect consequentialist is really really bad. If you do one step of reasoning, you might be like “yeaaa let's get rid of GPUs!” But you don't realize how that would be super bad for the world, would make cooperation extremely difficult, would make everything become super secretive, etc. The antimeme is that most people shouldn't be thinking like consequentialists. Instead of thinking about how to maximize utility, they should be thinking about how to maximize dignity. This is easier. This is computationally tractable. This heuristic will make you do better. I see so many people come into this arena with the anime protagonist “I'm going to save the world” complex, and then they burnout after 3 months and go do DMT. I know two humans who can maybe reason better under the consequentialist frame. But for everyone else, if you're going to do 5 years of soul-crushing difficult research without much support from the outside world, you should think under the dignity frame. Thoughts on the importance of playing with large models One mistake I see people make is that they underestimate the importance of getting actual hands-on experience with the thing you are studying. I think it's important to ...
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0:00:00 - Episode Intro0:05:00 - Jay Newman Intro0:15:30 - Complicity in the system0:19:00 - Is Christian Anarchism retreatist?0:30:30 - Consequentialism's willingness to compromise0:37:30 - Coercion as top down vs. Discipleship as bottom up0:44:00 - The Upside Down Kingdom as true power0:48:45 - Ellul, Anarchism, and Propaganda1:00:00 - Exiles in Babylon1:01:45 - Avoiding negative anarchy for positive anarchy and kingdom building A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music! Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/ Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tour YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriber Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/ My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot My Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=true Video Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ815n_kcQQ&list=PLNrd6lQRh0iZzSxgMo_zhz69clqkD0W9J&index=16 Robert Meeropol Interview: https://share.transistor.fm/s/b8142f61 Christian Nonresistance: In All Its Important Bearings: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1610861.Christian_Non_Resistance?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=TuZN24MbmY&rank=1Aiden Ballou quote from "Christian Nonresistance in All its Important Bearings:" As constituent supporters of human government, ( whether civil or military, or a compound of both -) in its state or national sovereignty, men are morally responsible for all constitutions, institutions, laws, processes, and usages, which they have pledged themselves to support, or which they avowedly approve, or which they depend upon as instrumentalities for securing and promoting their personal welfare, or in which they acquiesce without positive remonstrance and disfellowship. Thus if a political compact, a civil or military league, covenant, or constitution, requires, authorizes, provides for, or tolerates war, bloodshed, capital punishment, slavery, or any kind of absolute injury - offensive or defensive, the man who swears, affirms, or otherwise pledges himself to support such a compact, league, covenant, or constitution, is just as responsible for every act of injury done in strict conformity thereto, as if he himself personally committed it. He is not responsible for abuses and violations of the constitution. But for all that is constitutionally done he is responsible. The army is his army, the navy his navy, the militia his militia, the gallows his gallows, the -^ pillory his pillory, the whipping-post his whipping-post, the branding-iron his branding-iron, the prison to prison, the dungeon his dungeon, and the slaveholding his slaveholding. When the constitutional majority declare war, it is his war. All the slaughter, rapine, ravages, robbery, destruction, and mischief committed under that declaration, in accordance with the laws of war, are his. Nor can he exculpate himself by pleading that he was one of a strenuous anti-war minority in the government. He was in the government. He had sworn, affirmed, or otherwise pledged himself, that the majority should have discretionary power to declare war. He tied up his hands with that anti-Christian obligation, to stand by the majority in all the crimes and abominations inseparable from war. It is therefore his war, its murders are his murders, its horrible injuries on humanity are his injuries. " They are all committed with his solemn sanction. There is no escape from this terrible moral responsibility but by a conscientious withdrawal from such government, and an uncompromising protest against so much of its fundamental creed and constitutional law, as is decidedly anti-Christian. He must cease to be its pledged supporter and approving dependent. ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
0:00 - Introduction7:45 - Incoherence of Current Moral Theories8:20 - Virtue Ethics & Arbitrariness9:25 - Consequentialism & Arbitrariness10:15 - Deontological & Arbitrariness12:45 - Virtue Ethics & Egoism19:20 - Deontology & Egoism21:30 - Consequentialism & Egoism26:05 - How does the resurrection fix arbitrariness and egoism?27:40 - Purpose and existence in creation30:40 - Separation from purpose and existence33:45 - What the resurrection gets us - theosis40:40 - Existence and pure nature are required for purpose and morality46:20 - Privation theory of evil51:20 - Isn't hope in resurrection a self-centered hope?1:00:05 - Resurrection prevents the sacrifice of other1:10:15 - Means are concomitant with their ends1:11:50 - Conclusion1:14:15 - Implications on Christian Anarchism and Othering A huge thanks to Seth White for the awesome music! Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/ Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/thewayfourth/?modal=admin_todo_tour YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTd3KlRte86eG9U40ncZ4XA?view_as=subscriber Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theway4th/ Kingdom Outpost: https://kingdomoutpost.org/ My Reading List Goodreads: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/21940220.J_G_Elliot My Reading List Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10h_yL0vO8-Ja_sxUJFclff11nwUONOG6/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=103262818858083924733&rtpof=true&sd=true Video Interview Version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a1tsRIJQCw&list=PLNrd6lQRh0iZzSxgMo_zhz69clqkD0W9J&index=12 Necessity of the Resurrection Article: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/a-morality-of-being Christian Anarchism: A Political Commentary on the Gospel: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7106065-christian-anarchism?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=Fiu9MyYhqw&rank=1 How Did Sin Originate in a Perfect World? discuss essences and adjoining to God through theosis: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/how-did-sin-originate-in-a-perfect-world (96) S6E4 Means and Ends: Purposing: rooting purpose rather than creating it, and how purpose is relationalhttps://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/means-and-ends-purposing Hitchens vs. Hitchens Debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNlskhOlYBY ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
Who are you truly and what do you believe deeply?'Reasons And Persons' by Derek Parfit is an examination into our beliefs of what we should do with our lives and our personal identity. Parfit appeals to rationality and argues why theories such as self-interest and consequentialism are self-defeating in their own terms. He does this through a series of hypothetical cases (both realistic and improbable) to demonstrate their paradoxes before providing what he believes is the truly logical way to think.I summarised the book as follows. "This is probably a book for philosophers. I'd say you need to have a grasp on many fundamentals to fully understand the minutiae of Parfit's arguments. His general conclusions still seem quite vague and the use of so many hypotheticals & double/triple negatives became too much for me. Overall it wasn't worth reading as I couldn't take out any practical actions, but hey maybe that's just me." I hope you have a fantastic day wherever you are in the world. Kyrin out!Timeline:(0:00) - Intro(0:34) - Synopsis(4:04) - Reasons: What do we have the most reason to do?(10:13) - Persons: Your beliefs about your identity over time are false!(16:44) - Observations/Takeaways(25:01) - SummaryConnect with Mere Mortals:Website: https://www.meremortalspodcast.com/Discord: https://discord.gg/jjfq9eGReUInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/meremortalspodcast/
Peter Singer is probably the most famous living philosopher. He recently won the million-dollar Berggruen Prize and promptly gave all that money to charity. His positions on this, on animals, poverty, altruism, and much else besides are underpinned by his consequentialism. Here, in conversation with Nigel Warburton he explains his consequentialism and its implications.
Former FT Alphaville Editor and founder of The Blind Spot, Izabella Kaminska joins the show. In this episode: Izabella's pre-FT career Izabella's Polish ancestry and how that informed her monetary worldview Why Izabella was a skeptic about Bitcoin – and why she revisited her stance Izabella's interest in anacyclosis and cyclicality in political systems Jeremy Bentham and his views on utilitarianism Consequentialism and its influence on contemporary elite ideology What Covid-19 policies revealed about freedoms in the West The flaws inherent in bureaucracy Izabella's changing view on the politicization of finance The failure of AML/KYC rules in the West Reflections on the FT's Wirecard story Izabella's view on stablecoins and why she first compared them to Eurodollars Why stablecoins are mini central banks The paradoxes of Web3 and DeFi and the veil of decentralization Do crypto systems end up inherently recentralizing Why Central Banking is so obscure and difficult to penetrate Bitcoin narratives in the context of Bitcoin's apparent failure to be a real rates hedge Is gold genuinely a good inflation hedge? Are there Bitcoiners Izy pays attention to? Izabella's thoughts on Bitcoin ESG questions Is Bitcoin security worth paying for? Why Izabella is leaving the FT and starting the Blind Spot Learn about The Blind Spot and follow Izabella on twitter. Sponsor notes: Compass Mining is the world's first and largest online marketplace for bitcoin mining hardware, hosting, and ASIC reselling. Start mining your own bitcoin by visiting compassmining.io