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    Ep. 549 | Chris Savage on Building Authentic B2B Brands in the Age of AI

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 15, 2025 35:34


    Episode SummaryChris Savage joins the OnBase Podcast to share actionable insights on leveraging AI for brand building while staying true to authenticity. From his early days as a filmmaker to leading Wistia, Chris provides an engaging look into the evolution of brand strategies, the importance of creativity, and how leaders can guide their teams through this AI-driven transformation.This episode explores everything from the risks of AI overhype to the timeless need for human connections in marketing. Whether you're a marketer, a leader, or AI-curious, this conversation will leave you equipped to build a stronger brand.Key TakeawaysCreativity Is a Numbers GameShipping quickly and iterating often fosters original connections, driving stronger, standout brand strategies.Why Brand Matters More NowAI is increasing competition by lowering entry barriers; strong, authentic brands will be key differentiators in the long term.Authenticity Will Always WinConsumers value honest, transparent engagement. AI tools are helpful, but real human interaction will always carry unmatched trust.Leadership in the AI EraLeaders should immerse themselves in front-line experiences to better understand and guide AI's integration into their brand strategy.AI Enhancing Brand StrategyAI doesn't replace humans; it amplifies their ability to ideate, streamline processes, and drive focus on high-value tasks.Quotes“Authenticity will never go out of style. Consumers crave real interactions over AI-polished facades.”Best Moments [00:48] The Story Behind WistiaChris shares the origin of Wistia and how YouTube inspired his vision to create a better platform for businesses.[06:04] Why Brand Is KingChris explains how a strong brand is non-negotiable to survive in a competitive, AI-driven world where differentiation is key.[08:53] Secrets of Team CreativityStructured risks, frequent attempts, and clear constraints help teams become more creative.[19:43] The Power of AI-Driven PrototypingLeaders, like Chris, are now using AI to create product prototypes, drastically shortening decision-making timelines.[26:19] Guidance for AI IntegrationChris dives into the dangers of over-promising AI capabilities and offers strategies for incorporating innovation while managing customer expectations.Tech RecommendationsSuperhuman Email – Described as “luxury email,” Superhuman excels with AI-supported workflows like auto-replies and enhanced filtering, helping users streamline interactions.Wistia – Wistia's video platform empowers authentic video production and management, a critical tool for building resilient brands.Resource RecommendationsBooks:Masters of Doom by David Kushner - How Two Guys Created an Empire and Transformed Pop CulturePodcast:Acquired: A deep-dive podcast analyzing the histories of companies like Microsoft and Starbucks.Stratechery: Ben Thompson's insight-driven take on big tech trends and their implications.Shout-OutsRand Fishkin - Co-founder of SparkToro & Snackbar Studio. Author of Lost & Founder.Chris Nolan - CEO, Chief Creative Officer, 90,000 FEET.About the GuestChris Savage is the CEO and co-founder of Wistia, a platform dedicated to helping businesses leverage video for effective brand building. With a background in film and over a decade at the forefront of B2B technology and marketing, Chris is a visionary leader reimagining how brands can amplify their impact in a rapidly evolving world.Website: www.wistia.comConnect with Chris.

    Ep. 548 | Future-Proof Your Marketing: How AI Agents Are Changing the Game

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 11, 2025 35:48


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Mark Boothe to explore how AI agents are reshaping the future of marketing. Mark brings candid insights from his tenure at Domo, diving into the transformative potential of agentic workflows, the necessity of AI readiness, and how marketers can navigate both disruption and opportunity.Mark shares practical advice on leveraging agents as "tireless teammates" for joyless, repetitive tasks, enhancing competitive intelligence, scaling content creation, and making smarter, faster decisions across go-to-market functions. He also reflects on challenges CMOs face today—from attribution complexity to shifting SEO dynamics—and explains why waiting to adopt AI is the riskiest move of all.This conversation is a must-listen for B2B marketers, CMOs, and business leaders looking to scale with purpose and intelligence in the age of autonomous agents.Key TakeawaysAI Agents Are Here—and You're Already Late  Mark emphasizes that CMOs can no longer afford to delay AI adoption. Organizations that do not actively experiment with agents risk falling irreparably behind in terms of go-to-market maturity and innovation.Tireless Teammates, Not Job Takers  AI agents are best positioned to automate the joyless, manual tasks humans hate. With proper training and data, they can deliver superhuman memory, adaptability, and task execution across industries.Data Readiness Is Make or Break  The phrase "garbage in, garbage out" rings true—Mark stresses that AI without structured, contextualized, and governed data is not just ineffective, but dangerous.Align AI with Enterprise Goals  AI efforts must be anchored in clear business priorities, not shiny objects. Mark warns against focusing solely on vanity metrics and stresses the importance of tying every initiative back to pipeline, revenue, and customer value.Don't Just Automate—Adapt  Traditional automation is static. AI agents enable adaptability—responding to market shifts, customer signals, and business changes in real-time with minimal human input.Quotes“AI agents should make you way smarter, faster, and more adaptable—if you're aligned with the right goals.”Resource recommendations⁠Jasper⁠ – For scalable content generation.⁠Domo⁠ – For real-time marketing analytics and agent orchestration.Resource recommendationsBooks:⁠How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie⁠ – Timeless lessons in people-first leadership.⁠Dare to Lead by Brené Brown⁠ – Currently being read by Mark's team book club for fostering courageous leadership.⁠Patrick Lencioni's books⁠ – Especially on team dynamics and healthy conflict.B2B Leaders to follow⁠Denise Persson⁠, CMO of Snowflake, for leading high-impact B2B marketing.About the GuestMark brings over 15 years of diverse marketing experience and is passionate about driving Domo's business growth through marketing initiatives. His mission is to empower all Domo customers and prospects with the insights and tools they need to make better business decisions and achieve their goals. In his previous role as VP of Community, Partner, and Field Marketing, Mark and his teams established new and strengthened existing programs to address customer pain points and create a greater sense of community. They also executed campaigns, programs and events that showcase the value of the Domo platform.Before joining Domo, Mark spent more than 10 years working in customer relations and marketing at Adobe and worked at Instructure as its senior director of customer marketing. He received his MBA from Utah State University and a bachelor's degree from Brigham Young University. Outside of work, Mark enjoys spending time with his family and traveling. ⁠Connect with Mark.⁠

    Ep. 547 | ABM without the buzzwords: A real-world GTM playbook

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 8, 2025 22:21


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody talks with Angela (Bruns) Herlihy about crafting and scaling an account-based strategy that aligns teams and delivers results. From her early days in gymnastics to leading marketing ops in a public company, Angela shares a compelling story of grit and growth.She walks through the operational realities of building ABM frameworks in resource-constrained environments, redefines what ABM really means across sales and marketing, and explains how to make strategic decisions with imperfect data. Angela's hands-on experience and pragmatic mindset offer a roadmap for anyone navigating the messy middle of ABM adoption.If you're looking to operationalize strategy, influence pipeline, and align GTM teams—this episode delivers both inspiration and actionable advice.Key TakeawaysABM Surfaces Everything: Account-based strategies expose every operational weakness—data silos, unclear accountability, or misaligned teams. But if addressed early, they lead to better GTM alignment and faster deal velocity.Reframe ABM as a Strategy: ABM isn't a campaign or a tech tool—it's a company-wide approach to relationship building. Angie's team embraced a tiered model (1:1, 1:few, 1:many) and shifted toward lifecycle-based engagement.Get Scrappy with Data: With limited resources, Angela built centralized dashboards using Google Sheets and manual inputs—creating a shared source of truth across sales and marketing.Co-Ownership with Sales: Alignment means co-creating everything from account selection to success metrics. Dashboards, engagement trackers, and real-time sales alerts made collaboration a practice, not a one-time effort.Lead with Progress, Not Just Revenue: Revenue is a lagging indicator. Angela focuses on buying group engagement, deal progression, and pipeline influence to maintain momentum and build trust.ABM ≠ Just Marketing: Angela avoids jargon and explains ABM through real-world examples that resonate with sales, leadership, and marketing alike. Her redefinition of ABM makes it feel like a growth strategy for the entire business.Quotes“ABM doesn't just require operational alignment—it forces it.”Best moments 00:30 – From South Dakota gymnast to GTM leader: Angie's journey.04:00 – How ABM surfaces internal misalignments and drives cross-functional clarity.07:00 – Evolving ABM from campaign-based to lifecycle-based strategy.08:40 – Scrappy ABM: Centralizing fragmented data without overhauling tech.11:00 – Aligning marketing and sales through shared metrics and processes.13:30 – Redefining ABM and earning internal buy-in with relatable use cases.15:30 – Balancing speed with long-term data discipline.Tech recommendationsPerplexityClaudeHubSpot (for its rapid evolution and product breadth)Resource recommendationsPodcasts:Talking Shop by Kelly Hopping – GTM alignment and real-world marketing challengesProf G Pod by Scott Galloway – Sharp insights on business, tech, and leadershipNewsletter:Marketoonist by Tom Fishburne – Humorous yet insightful takes on marketing absurditiesAbout the guestAngela (Bruns) Herlihy is a seasoned B2B marketing leader with a rare blend of technical expertise and strategic insight. Currently at DoubleVerify, Angela has built and scaled a full-stack marketing operations function covering everything from campaign management and analytics to website strategy and ABM.Her career spans roles in market research, database marketing, and marketing operations at companies including Gartner Digital Markets and LaserSpine Institute. Angela's work has influenced demand gen, reviewer acquisition, and full-funnel ABM strategy. She's known for her ability to scale marketing functions from scratch, align cross-functional teams, and drive operational efficiency with measurable impact.Angela brings a unique mix of grit, precision, and vision to her work—skills rooted in her background as a competitive gymnast.Connect with Angie.

    Ep. 546 | How to scale personalized ABM with AI for enterprise success

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 1, 2025 32:09


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody talks with Vincent DeCastro about the intersection of AI and ABM, revealing how advanced tools are improving the scalability of one-to-one and one-to-few account-based strategies. From real-world success stories to actionable insights, Vincent dives deep into the challenges of hyper-personalization and how business teams can leverage AI to streamline efforts while enhancing relationships.Key TakeawaysAI's Role in ABMAI bridges the gap between manual efforts and scalable success, allowing marketers to hyper-personalize their outreach with greater efficiency.Scaling Hyper-PersonalizationAI-powered tools like Humantic AI and Manus help marketers deliver deeply personalized messaging, from emails to team cards.The Foundation of Great ABMVincent emphasizes the importance of relationships over vanity metrics in ABM strategies.AI for TargetingAI tools remove biases in selecting target accounts and deliver data-backed choices for better ABM campaigns.Real-World Success StoryThrough AI-based automation, Vincent's team reduced team card customization efforts from three weeks to two days, enabling global ABM scalability.Quotes“AI isn't just eliminating inefficiencies; it's creating ways for marketers to aspire higher and achieve more.”Best Moments 01:20 Vincent's Journey - Vincent talks about his early days in B2B marketing and his pivot toward ABM nearly nine years ago.07:04 The One-to-One Impact - Vincent shares an inspiring success story about building a CEO relationship that culminated at the Super Bowl.09:52 Scaling ABM with AI - “Without AI, scaling hyper-personalized ABM campaigns globally would take massive resources.”17:46 Hyper-Personalization at Its Best - Vincent reveals how tools like Manus assign tasks to AI agents, creating efficiencies across marketing processes.27:08 - AI's Transformational Role - “AI isn't replacing humans; it's making us better by streamlining the process and letting us focus on strategy.”Tech RecommendationsManus – A dynamic AI tool that automates marketing tasks by delegating them to specific agents, significantly reducing manual effort.Humantic – Great for understanding individual buyer personalities at scale. Provides insights like DISC profiles and how to effectively approach communications.Shout-OutsJason Lewis - Global Business Communications Lead, The Chemours Company — Titanium TechnologiesAbout the GuestVincent DeCastro is the President and Owner/Senior SEO Consultant at The Advanced Business Metrics Agency. With a background in Internet Sales Management at BellSouth/AT&T and Account Executive experience at Thomas Industrial Network, Vincent specializes in SEO, PPC, and web-based content solutions for small and mid-sized companies. Vincent is also knowledgeable in strategy development and training, constantly updating best practices based on algorithm and AdWords updates.Website: abmagency.comConnect with Vincent.

    Ep. 545 | How marketing-sales alignment and smart segmentation drive B2B growth

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 27, 2025 28:12


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Bryan Bowles to discuss how marketers can drive sustainable customer growth through tighter alignment with commercial teams, smarter segmentation, and role clarity across go-to-market functions.Bryan shares his unconventional career path and the insights he's gained by working across technical, product, and sales roles. He explains why marketers must understand both the buyer and the seller journeys, and how misaligned activities can waste resources and erode trust.From building campaigns that matter to structuring internal marketing roles with precision, Bryan offers a blueprint for modern B2B teams seeking to make a meaningful impact—especially when budgets are tight and expectations are high.Key TakeawaysStart with Seller Empathy: Great marketing doesn't just mirror the buyer's journey—it walks in the seller's shoes. Understanding how commercial teams use marketing materials is crucial to building relevant, timely campaigns.Segmentation is the Game-Changer: Trying to market to all customers equally leads to diluted efforts. Instead, narrow focus, precise segmentation, and account intelligence lead to higher conversion and deeper engagement.Align on Roles, Not Just Goals: Marketing success hinges on clearly defined roles. Bryan emphasizes letting product marketers focus on the “what” and “why,” while campaign teams drive the “how” with discipline and expertise.Activity ≠ Outcomes: Webinars and flashy tactics might feel good, but without a cohesive playbook and long-term view, they won't move the needle. Sustainable growth comes from planned, multi-touch, multi-channel programs.Operational Simplicity Drives Speed: Bringing content and campaign teams into one unit at GHX reduced handoffs and improved execution speed—creating what Bryan calls “one less handoff,” a powerful operational mantra.Outspend or Outsmart: When you can't outspend competitors, get surgical. Tight focus, clear audience segmentation, and close collaboration with the commercial team allow you to win smarter—not louder.Quotes“You don't need to spam the world. You need to be relevant to the right segment and convert.”Best moments 02:00 – Bryan's journey from rural hospital analyst to marketing leader.05:30 – Where companies fail in connecting commercial goals to marketing actions.09:00 – The secret to scaling customer growth through tight segmentation.13:00 – Turning field events into actionable intelligence for frontline teams.16:00 – Role definition and the art of avoiding activity-based marketing.20:00 – How merging content and campaign teams accelerated execution.23:30 – Why winning market share requires precision, not volume.Resource recommendationsBooks:Smart Brevity – A guide to simplifying communication and getting to the point faster.Podcasts:Outcomes Rocket – A healthcare-focused podcast Bryan recommends for insight into industry trends.Shout-outsKaycee Kalpin, CMO, Premier Inc.About the guestBryan Bowles is a seasoned marketing executive with over two decades of experience leading growth and innovation across the healthcare industry. He currently serves as Vice President of Corporate Marketing at GHX, where he oversees global marketing strategy, brand development, and the alignment of marketing initiatives with enterprise-wide business goals.Prior to GHX, Bryan held senior leadership roles at Everside Health and Premier Inc., where he was known for launching innovative healthcare solutions and driving measurable marketing impact. With a background spanning product management, sales, and marketing, Bryan brings a unique, cross-functional perspective that fuels customer-centric growth strategies.Connect with Bryan.

    Ep. 544 | Everyone Owns the Brand: From Siloed to Shared

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2025 32:55


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Paul Gibson sits down with Bee Patel for a deep dive into what it really means to “own the brand” in 2025. Bee challenges the legacy idea that branding lives solely within marketing and shares how today's most effective brands are shaped by collaborative ownership across HR, product, comms, and sales.Bee discusses the evolution of branding as a business outcome driver—supporting everything from lead generation to sales conversion—and shares actionable strategies for unifying internal teams to create stronger external brand impact. The conversation also tackles AI's current challenges, the importance of simplification in brand governance, and how fostering creative freedom can help teams cut through the noise.Best moments (0:47) Bee discusses her journey and focus on converting reputation into measurable business outcomes.(1:33) Paul introduces the importance of reimagining brand ownership.(3:33) Bee explains the shift of the brand from an awareness tool to supporting lead generation and close rates.(5:46) Bee shares an example of collaboration with HR and product teams during a brand transformation at Insight.(12:55) Bee states her personal opinion that AI is currently more of a challenge than an enabler.(16:25) Bee emphasizes the importance of communication and early stakeholder involvement to remove silos in brand collaboration.(19:09) Bee advises comms leaders to simplify and empower teams to own the brand rather than policing it.Key TakeawaysBrand Is Everyone's Job: Gone are the days of brand as a “marketing deliverable.” Today's successful organizations embed brand values into every function—HR, product, sales, and beyond—to maintain a consistent and authentic experience.From Gatekeepers to Facilitators: Comms and brand leaders must move from enforcing rules to enabling ownership. This cultural shift empowers teams to internalize and live the brand, not just follow guidelines.Trust Is the New Currency: Bee underscores that in a market where trust drives conversion, brand consistency and credibility aren't nice-to-haves—they're game-changers.AI as a Work-in-Progress: While AI has potential, Bee cautions against jumping on every tool. Strategic, contextual deployment—especially for operational efficiency—matters more than trend-chasing.Measure What Matters: Bee shares real-world impact metrics, including a 33% increase in content engagement and a surge in solution-based RFPs following brand transformation efforts.Tech recommendationsChatGPTResource recommendationsBooks:The Speed of Trust by Stephen Covey - A must-read on how trust drives business results.The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins - Bee's current read on navigating boundaries and letting go.Blogs:Farnam Street - A weekly newsletter that helps to demystify and simplify complex mental models.Shout-outsNerea Gandarias, a Senior Marketing Executive at 8x8 - Bee recommends her as an inspirational leader with unmatched strategic rigor and humanity in leadership.About the GuestBee Patel, Global Marketing & Communications Director at AlphaSights is a razor-sharp marketing leader, bringing over 15 years of expertise and knowledge across marketing and communications. With experience in internal and external communications, she is passionate about crafting user-centric content and messaging that cuts through the noise and is delivered through an integrated communications mix. She currently leads the global Brand and Communications Team at AlphaSights, focused on brand building strategies and connecting with their key stakeholders through compelling storytelling and engaging digital experiences.Prior to joining AlphaSights, she led the European content and communications team for Fortune 500 technology solutions provider, Insight, overseeing their PR, social, and content strategy across nine European regions.Connect with Bee.

    Ep. 543 | The GTM Playbook Rewritten: AI, Agents, and Demandbase 4.0

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2025 34:14


    Episode SummaryOn this episode of the OnBase Podcast, Gabe Rogol dives into how AI agents are reshaping go-to-market strategies and reveals what Demandbase 4.0 brings to the table. Gabe outlines the evolution of account-based marketing, the need for open and flexible platforms, and where automation meets human creativity in redefining the modern sales and marketing landscape. Whether you're a sales leader, marketer, or just curious about AI's role in B2B, this episode delivers thought-provoking clarity and actionable takeaways.Key TakeawaysDemandbase 4.0 marks a shift from closed platforms to open, flexible, AI-assisted go-to-market systems.AgentBase enables faster, smarter GTM through assisted automation built on unified first- and third-party data.AI won't replace SDRs, but will augment them—human creativity and relationships still matter most.Over-automation risks fragmentation and spam if agents aren't aligned across functions.Leads and last-touch attribution are outdated; pipeline creation is the new GTM North Star.Data quality is critical—bad CRM data can sabotage AI-driven decisions.Sales and marketing must act as one team, aligned around outcomes, not functions.Trust and transparency are foundational to a successful, scalable GTM model.Personalization still matters, but only when targeting the right ICP.Marketing deserves more investment, not just for efficiency, but to unlock real growth.Quotes“Trust is foundational to alignment. Without trust, the entire go-to-market process breaks down.”Best Moments 00:37 Shifting Into Phase FourGabe outlines the concept and exciting features of Demandbase 4.0, detailing the open and automated future of ABM.03:27 The Soapbox Moment"Aligning go-to-market resources with the accounts that have the greatest lifetime value" as the core of success.06:39 What AgentBase Makes PossibleGabe discusses how AI agents democratize complex tasks like segmentation, orchestration, and funnel tracking.16:57 The Risks of AI AgentsGabe cautions about amplified risks from bad data and the danger of fragmented go-to-market strategies.24:56 The New GTM PlaybookRoles across sales, marketing, and operations converge around pipeline creation for unified success.30:09 The Power of PersonalizationGabe advocates for thoughtful personalization to the right audience over shallow attempts at scaling outreach.Tech RecommendationsObsidian (Zettelkasten Tool) – A robust digital note-taking system for organizing non-linear ideas and linking essential insights across topics.Resource RecommendationsHarvard Business Review (HBR) Compilations: Collections on decision-making, agile processes, and AI insights, offering concise and actionable advice for B2B professionals.Shoutouts:Marc Benioff - Chair & CEO at SalesforceAbout the GuestAs the Chief Executive Officer of Demandbase, Gabe is responsible for fulfilling the company's mission of transforming how B2B companies go-to-market.Since joining Demandbase in 2012, he has been committed to setting the product and corporate strategy for the company. Throughout his two-plus-decade career, Gabe has held various leadership positions, including managing world-class customer service and sales teams at IDG and other leading publishers. He received his BA in Comparative Literature and Russian Language and Literature from Brown University.Connect with Gabe.

    Ep. 542 | Branding for sales success: Likeability, podcasts & B2B growth

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 17, 2025 22:43


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Jessica Rhodes to talk about branding, likeability, and how podcasting can transform your sales conversations. Jessica reflects on how she turned a favor for her dad into a thriving business and why bringing your whole personality to the table is key to building buyer trust.From tactical takeaways on content repurposing to deeper insights on the neuroscience of decision-making, this conversation is equal parts actionable and human. Jessica explains why likability isn't fluff—it's foundational—and how being authentic across every marketing touchpoint builds a brand that wins even in a competitive sales process.If you're in B2B marketing, sales enablement, or looking to boost your thought leadership through podcasts, this one's for you.Key TakeawaysLikeability is a Sales Strategy: Strong brand identity isn't just about logos and messaging—it's about trust and connection. Jessica and her team win business because people like them, not just because of features.Show, Don't Tell: You can't just say your team is amazing—your content has to prove it. Brand personality needs to shine across marketing, not just in sales calls.Podcasts = Trust Accelerators: Podcasts create long-form, unfiltered content that lets buyers hear your voice, beliefs, and expertise—way before they hit the sales funnel.Repurpose with Purpose: From sending podcast links in pre-sales calls to clipping interviews for social content, podcasts can fuel your entire marketing strategy.SEO Goldmine: Each podcast appearance builds your online footprint with backlinks, blog posts, and YouTube videos—an underrated SEO boost.Decision-Making Requires Gut & Calm: Jessica shares how understanding her "sacral authority" through human design and regulating her nervous system has helped her make clearer, less reactive decisions.Quotes“Your brand identity is letting your personality come through your marketing. People logically assess vendors—but they choose the one they like most.”Best moments 02:00–04:30 – Jessica's journey from door-to-door canvasser to podcast agency founder.05:30–07:00 – Likeability and brand identity: why it matters more than features.08:45–11:00 – The challenge (and power) of bringing your full self to work.11:30–13:30 – What to do right after you record a podcast: behind-the-scenes content, repurposing, and engagement tips.14:45–15:30 – Podcasting's secret SEO advantage.16:15–18:00 – Using gut instinct and a calm nervous system to make better decisions.Tech recommendationsAloware – for outbound dialing and bulk SMS.Opus Clip – for repurposing podcast content.HubSpot – for marketing automation and CRM.Resource recommendationsBooks:$100M Offers and $100M Leads by Alex HormoziPodcasts:The Game with Alex HormoziShout-outsMargy Feldhuhn, Co-Owner and CEO, Interview ConnectionsMelanie Ann Layer, High-Performance Business Mentor, MLI CoachingAbout the GuestJessica Rhodes is the founder of Interview Connections, the world's first podcast booking agency, launched in 2013 before podcast guesting was on anyone's radar. As a trailblazer in the podcasting space, Jessica Rhodes has helped more than 800 clients land over 30,000 podcast interviews, establishing herself as a thought leader in how businesses can leverage podcasting to grow. Her mission is simple yet powerful: to help entrepreneurs who feel like the best-kept secret increase visibility and build trust through the human-to-human connection that only long-form podcast interviews can provide.Connect with Jessica.

    Ep. 541 | Build Legos, Not Decks: Amber Naslund on Strategic Selling

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 12, 2025 27:33


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody reunites with longtime friend and podcast co-creator Amber Naslund for a reflective and forward-thinking conversation. Amber brings a wealth of experience across the marketing-sales spectrum and shares how her background in marketing has become her superpower in sales.They explore how better collaboration between marketing and sales can unlock massive gains, why product marketing and sales enablement should stop building models and start offering "Legos," and how storytelling in sales is less about fables and more about connecting dots. Amber also gets real about brand vs. demand debates and why marketers need to stop underestimating the power of long-term influence.Key TakeawaysMarketing Skills Supercharge Sales: Amber's success in sales stems from her deep understanding of marketers. Being able to “speak the same language” has helped her build trust, credibility, and strategic partnerships with customers.Empathy > Silos: Sales and marketing still operate too independently. The cure? Cross-functional humility, joint planning, and sitting in on each other's meetings.Build Legos, Not Models: Product marketers and sales enablers should create modular, adaptable building blocks—not rigid, linear pitch decks. Sellers need the freedom to customize.Get Comfortable with Casual: Great sellers are simplifying, listening deeply, and having real, unscripted conversations. Over-reliance on pitch decks and sequences is hurting connection.Brand is Demand: The divide between brand and demand gen is artificial. Brand is what puts you on the buyer's shortlist on Day 1—it's measurable, just not always trackable.Quotes“Brand is demand. It's all one thing. The biggest mistake marketing made was thinking brand was separate from measurable success.”Best moments 01:20 – Amber's career journey: from nonprofit fundraising to sales leader at LinkedIn.05:30 – What marketers misunderstand about sales (and vice versa).09:15 – The art of “getting comfortable with casual.”12:30 – Why enablement teams need to provide mix-and-match sales materials.15:30 – Storytelling in sales: not fluff, but hypothesis.18:00 – The real power of brand—and why we're measuring it all wrong.Resource recommendationsBooks:The First 90 Days by Michael D. WatkinsBabel by R.F. KuangPodcasts:Hidden Brain PodcastShout-outsAshley Faus, Head of Lifecycle Marketing, Portfolio at Atlassian – She is admired for her community leadership and generosity.Jenn VandeZande, Digital Engagement Strategy at SAP CX – Amber praised Jenn for her editorial excellence and long-game content strategy.About the GuestAmber Naslund is a seasoned marketing and sales executive, currently serving as a Director at LinkedIn within their Marketing Solutions business. With over 25 years of experience across nonprofit fundraising, B2B marketing, tech startups, and enterprise sales, she brings a rare dual-lens perspective from both sides of the revenue table.From co-founding a podcast with host Chris Moody over a decade ago to transitioning from marketing leader to sales director, Amber has continually embraced growth, reinvention, and empathy as cornerstones of her leadership. She's passionate about bridging the gap between marketing and sales teams, crafting meaningful stories, and advocating for the value of brand in today's attribution-obsessed world.Connect with Amber.

    Ep. 540 | Show Me You Know Me: Why Manners Win Millions in Sales with Sam McKenna

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2025 41:50


    Episode SummaryOn this episode of the OnBase Podcast, Sam McKenna shares her unconventional and highly effective sales strategies. From her trademark 'Show Me You Know Me' philosophy to redefining what it means to put manners first, Sam highlights the importance of doing the unexpected in sales to stand out. She details her inspiring career path, her passion for empowering women, and her views on the importance of genuine human connection in building lifelong client relationships. Unmissable for anyone in sales or leadership, this episode is full of energy, wisdom, and actionable takeaways.Key TakeawaysShow Me You Know MePersonalization in sales must go beyond surface-level AI-generated efforts. Take the time to truly understand your prospects and leverage that understanding to build relationships.Manners Before ProfitIncorporating gratitude and respect throughout the sales process helps create exceptional experiences for buyers, even when deals don't close.Relationships Are EverythingRevisit clients post-sale to ensure satisfaction and build trust. These connections can drive referrals and repeat business.Make It PersonalSimple, thoughtful gestures (e.g., rubber duckies or customized books) can make a lasting impression.Work Smarter, Not HarderPlan targeted outreach early in the week and send personalized emails during off-peak times to boost visibility.Quotes“The bar in sales isn't low; it's on the floor. Step over it.”Best Moments [00:34] Career BeginningsSam shares her unorthodox entry into sales, going from art aspirations to a thriving sales career.[02:47] Becoming a LinkedIn InfluencerHow one blog post in 2011 on 'Show Me You Know Me' turned into a movement and drove unexpected demand generation success.[05:45] Manners First, AlwaysSam explains how small acts of gratitude, such as responding to email rejections politely, can leave lasting positive impressions.[14:13] Empowering Women in SalesA heartbreaking story of resistance from a colleague drives Sam's mission to support, uplift, and empower other women in sales.[23:00] Creative Gestures Close DealsFrom rubber duckies to personalized books, Sam shares memorable examples of gifts that strengthen relationships.[32:38] A Smarter Way to Plan OutreachSam outlines her unique strategy for timing emails to increase response rates and engagement.Tech Recommendations⁠LinkedIn Sales Navigator⁠: Gain actionable insights into leadership changes, hiring patterns, and organizational growth to refine your prospecting efforts.Resource RecommendationsNewsletters:     ⁠Morning Brew⁠     ⁠DealBook by The New York Times⁠     ⁠Kyle Pointer's Newsletter⁠Podcasts:⁠HBR Women at Work⁠Books:⁠Unreasonable Hospitality⁠ by Will Guidara⁠Radical Candor⁠ by Kim Scott⁠The Ride of a Lifetime⁠ by Robert Iger⁠The Transparency Sale⁠ by Todd Caponi⁠The Transparent Sales Leader⁠ by Todd CaponiShout-Outs⁠Jen Allen-Knuth⁠- Jen's focus on the psychology of sales resonates with Lydia. She recommends Jen's insightful LinkedIn posts on buyer behavior and objection handling.About the GuestSamantha McKenna is the Founder and CEO of #samsales, with over 100,000 LinkedIn followers. She has a 15+ year career in Enterprise sales, breaking over 13 sales records. She emphasizes a manners-first and buyers-first approach.She is a LinkedIn expert, former Enterprise Sales Executive leader for LinkedIn's Sales Navigator, and a Top Voice on LinkedIn in 2024. She has received numerous sales leadership awards and speaks at business schools like Harvard, Kelley, and Kellogg.Since 2019, #samsales has achieved a multi-million-dollar revenue, 312% of its first-year goal, and significant double-digit growth. It is an all-women team, has served over 250 clients, raised over $110K for charity, and has been featured in publications like The Wall Street Journal.⁠⁠Connect with Samantha⁠⁠.

    Ep. 539 | Relevance over personalization: Prospecting that actually works

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 5, 2025 21:51


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Lydia Hutchison for a powerful conversation on what works in modern B2B prospecting. Lydia explains why typical AI-personalized messages fail to cut through and how relevance, rooted in deep customer understanding, wins every time.She unpacks her triple-touch framework, the value of tone and timing, and the human psychology that underpins effective outreach. Lydia also reveals her favorite high-converting tactic that combines manual research with real-time relevance. If you're struggling with connect rates, sequence performance, or objection handling, this episode offers a fresh, actionable perspective.Key TakeawaysRelevance Trumps Personalization: Generic personalization wastes the prospect's time. Relevance speaks directly to their daily pain and success metrics—and that's what drives replies.Triple-Touch Strategy Works: Lydia advocates a three-channel approach—phone, LinkedIn, email—for testing message resonance and adjusting in real-time based on feedback.Lead with Psychology, Not Scripts: Authentic, thoughtful outreach begins with understanding how people accomplish their tasks—and how you can help them do it more effectively.Objections Aren't Always Real: Recognize the difference between a true objection and simple disinterest. Learn to use tone, timing, and multichannel follow-up to stay human and helpful.AI is a Research Assistant, Not a Salesperson: When used well, AI can support better outreach by helping reps research personas and challenges, but it shouldn't write your messages for you.Quotes“Everybody is getting their job done without you. So your job is to show them how to do it better—not tell them they're doing it wrong.”Best Moments (0:56) Lydia Hutchison's Journey into Sales (2:59)Developing Expertise in Sales Execution and Prospecting  (8:00) Differentiating Relevance and Personalization in Prospecting(12:09) Key Factors to Make a Sales Message Stand Out (14:19) Example of Focusing on Relevance Over Personalization (16:27) Process for Ensuring Consistent and Compelling Messaging Across Sales Teams(18:34) Approaching Objection Handling (20:33) Actionable Advice for Struggling Prospecting Teams Shout-outsJason Bay – Lydia recommends Jason for practical advice on sales openers and messaging, especially for go-to-market teams. His content helps reps connect more effectively with prospects.Jen Allen-Knuth- Jen's focus on the psychology of sales resonates with Lydia. She recommends Jen's insightful LinkedIn posts on buyer behavior and objection handling.About the GuestLydia Hutchison is the Head of Business Development at DataHub. She is a data-obsessed sales leader, builder of outbound sales motions, from early-stage startups to global enterprises. Lydia is passionate about coaching for success and empowering sales development orgs to crush their revenue and career goals.Website: datahub.comConnect with Lydia.

    Ep. 538 | AI, Grit, and Growth: Chaz Horn's B2B Sales Revolution

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 3, 2025 38:32


    Episode SummaryThis episode delves into the core principles of sales success and scaling go-to-market strategies through leveraging and alignment. Chaz Horn reflects on his inspiring career transformation and shares actionable insights on creating impact with minimal resources. He introduces his TTABS framework, discusses how mindset drives sales success, and explores how AI can revolutionize sales and training efficiency. Chaz's emphasis on transformation, both personal and professional, offers a fresh lens on building businesses that truly change lives while delivering results.Key TakeawaysThe Power of LeverageStrategic collaborations, like partnering with industry leaders, amplify reach and credibility.Mindset Drives SuccessPerspective acts as either an anchor in mediocrity or a springboard into potential.AI's Role in SalesGenerative AI can automate tasks like creating origin stories, building training materials, and crafting personalized customer experiences.TTABS Framework:Understand the tactic and technique while maintaining an attitude of service, tracking behaviors, and aligning strategy with goals..Focus on TransformationHelping clients achieve transformation in their lives or businesses builds conviction and long-lasting business success.Quotes"AI can't replace the genuine connection humans bring to sales, but it enhances how we prepare for those connections."Best Moments (02:50) – Chaz recounts his transformation from the worst salesperson to a top performer through mentorship and systemized processes.(08:30) – Insights on leveraging relationships through strategic collaborations to maximize impact and sales outcomes.(16:37) – Discussion about the evolving role of AI in sales and how it's redefining customer interactions.(24:08) – Balancing AI's efficiency with the human touch in storytelling and sales processes.(30:54) – The importance of creating a mindset focused on client transformation rather than solely selling.Tech RecommendationsChatGPT – For creating content like origin stories and streamlining the sales processNotebook LM- Google – Enables structured content creation for training and client interaction.Grok – AI storytelling tool ideal for crafting narratives and educational content.Whisper – Efficient voice-to-text solution for creating formatted documents on the fly.LinkedIn – A fundamental platform for B2B lead generation and networking.Claude – Preferred for copywriting and crafting engaging content.Resource RecommendationsBooks:Fearless Living by Jamie Winship – A book on understanding identity to unlock personal and professional growth.0X is Easier Than 2X by Dr. Benjamin Hardy and Dan Sullivan – Focuses on achieving exponential results by simplifying prioritiesShout-OutsCraig Groeschel - Senior Pastor and Founder at LifechurchAbout the GuestOnce homeless and ranked last out of 119 sales reps, Chaz Horn turned his career around by embracing mentorship and a proven system—jumping to #3 in just 45 days and earning over $14,000 in commissions. That breakthrough sparked his mission to help others achieve the same transformation.Since founding Mastery of B2B Sales in 2016, Chaz has helped hundreds of consultants, coaches, and small B2B businesses consistently identify, attract, and onboard clients using his proprietary TTABS framework:Tactic, Technique, Attitude, Behavior, and Strategy—the five essentials for predictable growth.Author of The B2B Blueprint to Predictable Sales, Chaz blends systems thinking with personal transformation. His approach is shaped by overcoming real-life adversity—from depression and obesity to rebuilding his life through faith, biohacking, and discipline.He lives by a “Get To” mindset and brings energy, clarity, and conviction into every keynote, coaching session, and client engagement.

    Ep. 537 | How to Scale Demand Generation Like a Pro

    Play Episode Listen Later May 29, 2025 33:23


    Episode SummaryThis episode explores the nuances of scaling demand generation strategies from startups to established organizations. Lily Youn highlights the importance of building a strong foundation through account-based strategies, data hygiene, and team alignment. She discusses the differences between startup scrappiness and scale-up structure, the role of AI in demand generation, and how to identify quick wins for immediate impact. Lily also shares actionable insights for optimizing conversions, improving CRM processes, and fostering collaboration across teams..Key TakeawaysFoundation is EssentialSuccess in demand generation starts with targeting the right accounts, as they form the base of effective strategies.Alignment Creates MomentumRegular, agenda-driven meetings with key stakeholders help ensure seamless collaboration between sales and marketing.AI as an Efficiency DriverAI tools can streamline personalization, simplify content operations, and elevate demand gen workflows.Data Hygiene is Non-NegotiableClean, well-structured CRM data is critical for reliable reporting and scalability across company stages.Startup vs. Scale-Up DynamicsStartups require focused ICP development, while scale-ups demand scalable processes and systems.Quotes"Targeting the wrong prospects is the single biggest challenge in B2B sales today."Best Moments (01:37) – Lily shares her career journey from BDR to demand generation leader, reflecting on early lessons in scrappiness and resourcefulness.(04:50) – The critical role of account-based strategies and why a strong foundation starts with the right ICP.(07:20) – Navigating startup-to-scale-up transitions and the importance of scalable processes and clean CRM data.(12:07) – Leveraging tech and AI to enhance efficiency in demand generation and content operations.(14:00) – Lily's focus on alignment, OKRs, and communication as keys to success in scaling demand gen teams.Tech RecommendationsWorkBoard – For setting and tracking OKRs to maintain team alignment and prioritize business goalsZoomInfo Co-Pilot – An AI-powered tool for streamlining demand gen efforts and improving account targeting.Asana – A project management solution to enhance productivity and maintain focus on KPIs.Resource RecommendationsBooks:Reset: How to Change What's Not Working by Dan Heath – A guide for improving leadership practices and daily operations.Shout-OutsShannon Hawari - Head of Growth @ elvexGraham Collins - Head of Partnerships at QuotaPathAbout the GuestLily Youn Jaroszewski is the VP of Demand Generation and Revenue Marketing at Aprimo, the leading digital asset management technology for marketing and customer experience departments.Her experience in B2B and B2C tech companies includes building demand generation teams and quota capacity models to support AEs from Seed-Funded to Public companies.Website: aprimo.comConnect with Lily.

    Ep. 536 | Agentic AI Is Not a Lego Brick: Rethinking Innovation

    Play Episode Listen Later May 28, 2025 43:15


    Episode SummaryIn this provocative and insightful episode, OnBase host Chris Moody reunites with Lukas Egger to discuss one of the most talked-about frontiers in business innovation: agentic AI. Lukas explores how companies can move beyond demos and hype to implement AI in ways that reshape business models and unlock new value creation.Key TakeawaysPrioritizing Agentic AI: Leaders must prioritize agentic AI for business preparedness due to the significant investment and potential for new value creation.Understanding Misconceptions: It's crucial to recognize the "Jagged Frontier of AI," where AI's capabilities are counterintuitive, and avoid the "Lego brick fallacy," which assumes AI can be simply plugged into existing processes.Lowering Cost of Failure: To confidently adopt AI, businesses must systematically lower the cost of failure, iterate quickly, and democratize the process.Data-Driven Insights: Robust data and real answers are essential for understanding the ROI and impact of AI changes on business processes, systems, and people.Competitive Advantage: Instead of focusing solely on common AI use cases, businesses should identify their unique, unfair advantages and engage in rapid iterations and customer conversations to discover differentiating functionalities.Integrated Innovation: Marketing, sales, and business development should be involved early in the AI innovation process to ensure that new solutions align with market needs and monetization strategies.Beyond Peacocking: Avoid simply "peacocking" with AI by replicating what others are doing; instead, focus on deep integration and solving real business problems.Best Moments 02:00 – Lukas describes his nonlinear path from philosophy and startups to enterprise innovation at SAP.05:00 – The promise of agentic AI: opening up new domains for value creation and strategic repositioning.10:00 – Breaking down misconceptions: why traditional planning fails in the face of fast-moving AI.15:00 – Lowering the cost of failure and why “small wins” are key to long-term adoption.20:00 – Avoiding AI homogeneity: how to resist the urge to copy competitors and build a real moat.26:00 – Implementing AI at scale in large organizations: the hidden value of domain expertise and transparency.32:00 – The behaviors leaders must change to avoid missing the AI wave entirely.38:00 – Why marketers and sales teams must embed in AI development—early and often.Shout-outsHelen and Dave Edwards, Co-Founders of Artificiality Institute who discuss the emotional components of AI technology.Peter Temes, Founder and President, ILO Institute, for his deep understanding of basicAbout the GuestLukas N.P. Egger leads the Innovation Office & Strategic Projects team at SAP Signavio, where he focuses on de-risking new product ideas and establishing best-in-class product discovery practices. With a successful track record in team building and managing challenging projects, Lukas has expertise in data-driven technology, cloud-native development, and has created and implemented a new product discovery methodology. Excelling at bridging the gap between technical and business teams, he has worked in AI, operations, and product management in fast-growth environments. As a founder, he has experience building lean and iterating quickly to create saleable software with limited resources while fostering loyalty. Lukas has movie credits for his work in Computer Graphics research, published a book on philosophy, and is passionate about the intersection of technology and people, regularly speaking on how to improve organizations.Connect with Lukas.

    Ep. 535 | Creativity Isn't Dead: Rekindling Bold Ideas in B2B Marketing

    Play Episode Listen Later May 27, 2025 40:10


    Episode SummaryThis episode dives deep into the heart of creativity in B2B marketing as Jeff and Carman illuminate the power of bold ideas in revitalizing campaigns. From the challenges of standing out in a "sea of sameness" to the unique opportunities presented by AI, the duo shares actionable insights on rethinking how brands engage, differentiate, and capture attention in complex B2B environments. Learn how to leverage concepts like the "Big Long Idea," champion creativity, and foster meaningful connections with your audience.Key TakeawaysMove Beyond the "Sea of Sameness": Creativity provides the differentiation needed to stand out in saturated markets like manufacturing.The Big Long Idea Framework: A strategy focused on developing campaign platforms that can scale and endure over time (3-5 years), providing consistency across touchpoints.The Role of AI in Creativity: While AI offers tools to streamline processes, the human element remains crucial to driving authentic creativity.Listening as a Competitive Edge: Out-listening your competitors can generate fresh ideas and create meaningful customer campaigns.Revitalize Through Buy-In: Achieving alignment from stakeholders is essential; nurture collaboration among marketing, sales, and leadership to ensure bold campaigns succeed.QuotesThe biggest challenge for creativity is the modern worship at the altar of technology. We've traded bold ideas for efficiency." - Jeff White"Happier people make better products, and better products make happier people. That's creativity in a nutshell." - Carman PirieBest Moments (06:50) – Differentiating in Bland Markets : Jeff and Carman discuss how creativity can help brands stand out in heavily regulated and saturated industries like packaging and manufacturing.(12:30) – The Big Long Idea Explained : A deep dive into the "Big Long Idea" framework, showcasing how it provides consistency and creativity for campaigns that last 3-5 years.(15:45) – Happiness in the Making : A case study on how creative insights led to a powerful tagline and campaign essence for a contract manufacturer.(24:11) – Out-Listening Competitors : Carman shares how listening to customers and competitors can unlock fresh, creative ideas for campaigns.(36:40) – Courage to Pick Up the Phone : A discussion on the importance of direct conversations for both marketers and sales professionals to gain valuable insights.Shout-OutsUna De Boer - CMO, WhiteWater West Industries Ltd.About the GuestJeff White: the co-founder of Kula Partners, an agency designed to help leading manufacturers digitally transform their marketing and sales. A User Experience (UX) and usability expert, Jeff began building sites for the web over 25 years ago. He leads the design and development practice at Kula Partners. Several years ago, Jeff returned to NSCAD University as a sessional professor, bringing his understanding of web standards to a new generation of design students.A passionate advocate for usability and an open web that is accessible to everyone, Jeff frequently speaks on web design, usability, accessibility, marketing, and sales at events such as HubSpot's Inbound conference.Connect with Jeff.Carman Pirie: the co-founder of Kula Partners, an agency built to help leading manufacturers digitally transform marketing and sales to deliver more leads, close more prospects, and grow their competitive edge. Over his nearly three decades in marketing and communications, Carman's career has taken him from the halls of Canada's Parliament to various client-side and agency-side marketing leadership roles. Along the way, he has advised Fortune 100 clients, governments, and non-profit organizations. At Kula Partners, Carman serves as lead marketing and sales counsel to the firm's diverse range of North American manufacturing clients.Connect with Carman.Website: kulapartners.com

    Ep. 534 | Evolution of ABM: From Traditional Targeting to AI-Driven Precision

    Play Episode Listen Later May 22, 2025 36:48


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Jacek Materna as they explore how account-based marketing (ABM) has evolved from traditional sales tactics to precision-driven strategies fueled by AI. Jacek reflects on his career in ABM, starting in enterprise sales during the 2000s, and shares practical advice for implementing effective ABM programs. The episode tackles common missteps, such as over-reliance on tools, and outlines the importance of aligning sales and marketing teams. Jacek also dives into real-world use cases of AI in ABM, from hyper-personalization to advanced measurement tactics, and how businesses can stay competitive in today's fast-paced Martech landscape.Key TakeawaysABM is Old School Personalization with a New Name: ABM is an extension of the enterprise sales motion that has existed for decades but now incorporates modern tools and strategiesAlignment is Critical: Sales and marketing teams need to collaborate closely, with shared goals and metrics, to make account-based strategies successful.AI Supercharges Personalization: AI enables cost-effective hyper-personalization but also risks oversaturating the market. Companies need to find ways to stand out amidst increasing competition.Intent Data Isn't a Silver Bullet: Many companies fall victim to “intent hangovers”—placing too much faith in intent platforms as a standalone solution without building strategy or alignment first.Tools Are Not the Starting Point: Businesses should focus on strategy and human connection before investing in costly tools they might not fully utilize.Quotes"The best marketers are sellers at heart, and the best sellers are masterful storytellers."Best Moments (03:25) – Jacek's Career Beginnings : Reflecting on how enterprise sales in the early 2000s laid the foundation for his passion for ABM.(09:00) – Enterprise Sales Meets AI : Jacek highlights moments when human storytelling intersected with cutting-edge digital tools.(15:45) – Tips for Aligning Sales and Marketing : Practical advice on simplifying strategies and focusing on shared metrics like pipeline and bookings to unite teams.(26:48) – The "Intent Hangover" Phenomenon: Jacek's critical analysis of businesses that over-invest in intent data without a coherent strategy.(33:20) – What's Next for AI in ABM? : A candid discussion about how AI will expand capabilities for teams while creating new challenges in a saturated market.Tech RecommendationsChatGPTResource RecommendationsBooks:The 22 Immutable Laws of Marketing by David Drummond Obviously Awesome by April Dunford: How to Nail Product Positioning so Customers Get It, Buy It, Love ItTrump: The Art of the Deal by Donald J. TrumpMovie: Glengarry Glen RossPodcasts:All-In PodcastInvest like the BestAbout the GuestJacek Materna is a 3x founder and seasoned technology executive who specializes in scaling growth-stage companies. With a track record of successful exits and deep experience in B2B SaaS, security, fintech, and edtech, Jacek brings a practical, no-fluff perspective on what it takes to drive real business outcomes.He's led global teams, launched products that generate tens of millions in ARR, and helped companies—from first-time founder startups to PE-backed platforms—unlock margin expansion, go-to-market velocity, and lasting cultural alignment. His leadership experience spans roles as CEO, COO, and CTO, with responsibilities across product strategy, corporate development, P&L oversight, and M&A.Jacek currently serves as CEO of Full Circle Insights and is passionate about helping organizations turn complexity into clarity. Whether he's advising boards, restructuring teams, or speaking on stage, his mission is always the same: drive value, move fast, and scale smart.Website: https://www.fullcircleinsights.com/Connect with Jacek.

    Ep. 533 | Cracking the ABM Code: Beyond Strategy

    Play Episode Listen Later May 20, 2025 34:57


    Episode SummaryOn this episode of OnBase, host Paul Gibson sits down with Ingrid Archer to discuss "cracking the ABM code" and uncover why successful ABM initiatives require more than just strategy. Ingrid shares her expertise on balancing localized needs within European markets, overcoming common misconceptions about ABM, and using AI to streamline processes at every stage of account-based execution.From highlighting the importance of sales and marketing collaboration to providing actionable steps for initiating ABM, Ingrid offers incredible insights for marketers at every stage of their ABM journeys. This episode also dives into key hurdles like impatience, budget constraints, and the lack of education around ABM, offering solutions to overcome these issues.Whether you're new to ABM or looking to refine your current strategy, Ingrid's advice is an invaluable resource.Key TakeawaysSales and Marketing Alignment is Crucial: Successful ABM hinges on teamwork between sales and marketing. Forget the silos and work as one cohesive unit.Educate Before You Start: Teams must understand what ABM truly involves before implementation to avoid misconceptions and ensure success..ABM is Complex but Rewarding: While ABM can be more challenging than traditional approaches, its ability to deliver measurable, targeted outcomes makes the effort worthwhile.AI Helps Build Efficiency: Leveraging AI in areas like account segmentation, personalization, and research can improve the execution of ABM strategies.Think Long-Term: Patience is key when rolling out ABM initiatives. Avoid rushing and focus on creating a solid strategy before launching campaigns.Quotes“AI is not replacing marketers; marketers using AI will replace those who don't use it.”Best Moments 01:03–02:46 Ingrid shares her early career story of spotting gaps in the B2B agency world.09:04–10:13 Comparing ABM approaches in Europe versus the United States and the role of cultural nuances.16:15–16:33 Ingrid discusses the importance of educating teams and managing expectations for ABM programs.23:12–24:57 Insights on data quality and why having a dedicated resource to manage data is critical for ABM.28:45–30:47 Ingrid explains how SPOTONVISION is weaving AI into every step of the ABM framework for speed and accuracy.Tech RecommendationsTrendemonApolloResource RecommendationsBooks:Purple Cow by Seth Godin: Transform Your Business by Being RemarkablePermission Marketing by Seth Godin: Turning Strangers Into Friends And Friends Into CustomersNewsletter:Strategic B2B Marketing: Linkedin newsletter by Thomas AllgeyerB2B leaders to followThomas Allgeyer - Founder, B2B MarketingBob Peterson - Vice President, Principal Analyst, Forrester ResearchAbout the GuestIngrid Archer is Co-founder of B2B Marketing agency SPOTONVISION as well as the B2B Marketing Forum in Europe. She is responsible for customers, consultants and the marketing of SPOTONVISION. She is a certified Buyer Persona and ABM practitioner and has a strong focus on integrated marketing approach from buyer personas, lead generation, demand generation, to account-based marketing. Ingrid enjoys writing and giving marketing training, including our own B2B Vision Academy. She regularly writes on B2B marketing for blogs such as Marketingfacts and Emerce.Website: spotonvision.comConnect with Ingrid Archer

    Ep. 532 | Winning with Go-to-Market Strategy

    Play Episode Listen Later May 15, 2025 29:30


    Episode SummaryIn this episode, Host Chris Moody is joined by Eric Feige to discuss how businesses can win with go-to-market (GTM) strategies by setting realistic digital transformation goals, fostering cross-functional alignment, and leveraging tools like Demandbase for scalable growth. Eric's breadth of experience—from entrepreneurship to consulting with Fortune 500 companies—offers unique perspectives on the practical steps organizations can take to achieve revenue growth, avoid common pitfalls, and innovate without unnecessary risk. Eric also shares advice on using AI and composable technology to accelerate success in go-to-market strategies.Key TakeawaysCross-Functional Collaboration is Essential: GTM success requires alignment across sales, marketing, technology, and compliance teams, with a clear P&L owner driving the effort.Set Realistic Digital Transformation Goals: Break down large initiatives into achievable milestones that deliver short-term wins and lay the foundation for long-term growth.Leverage Tools to Scale Without Additional Labor: Platforms like Demandbase help integrate insights, streamline workflows, and enable scalable, personalized outreach without adding overhead.The Importance of Beacon Projects: Start with “beacon projects” that showcase clear value across teams and convert skeptics into advocates for change, aligning everyone on revenue objectives.AI as a Catalyst for Personalization: While AI can help optimize content and enable hyper-personalized messaging, its impact is amplified when integrated with robust go-to-market platforms.Quotes"AI enables us to scale personalization, but success still lies in orchestrating the right data, systems, and teams."Best Moments (03:30) – The Foundations of Cross-Functional GTM Success(08:40) – Setting Realistic Digital Transformation Goals(13:10) – Tools for Scalable Revenue Growth(19:50) – Introducing Beacon Projects(26:25) – AI's Role in GTM TransformationResource RecommendationsBooks:Beastie Boys Book by Michael DiamondAbout the GuestEric Feige is a seasoned leader and digital transformation expert with experience as a venture-backed entrepreneur, digital strategist, and head of digital at top organizations like Deloitte, KPMG, JP Morgan, and Prudential Financial. As the Managing Director at VShift, Eric helps businesses unlock sustainable revenue growth by aligning digital goals with cross-functional collaboration across sales, marketing, and technology teams.Website: ⁠https://www.vshift.com/⁠⁠Connect with Eric⁠.

    Ep. 531 | Before AI, Fix Your Data: The ABM Wake-Up Call

    Play Episode Listen Later May 13, 2025 40:33


    Episode SummaryThis episode dives into the critical role of data quality in unlocking the true potential of AI for ABM success. Daryn Smith shares how organizations can move from AI hype to AI readiness, focusing on bridging data silos and using AI effectively. The discussion explores practical steps to improving data management, leveraging AI tools to streamline processes, and why leadership plays a pivotal role in driving change. Daryn also reveals fascinating use cases where AI has made a tangible difference in business operations and marketing strategies.Key TakeawaysAI Readiness is LaggingOnly 8.5% of companies are truly AI-ready, despite executives highly prioritizing AI adoption.Data Quality is Key:70% of respondents prioritize data quality over AI, revealing that unstructured or siloed data hampers AI effectiveness.Leadership's Role in AI SuccessLeaders must champion AI adoption while being transparent about the need for continuous improvements in data management and AI training.Blind Automation Can Undermine ResultsAI often requires contextual data and meaningful human oversight to produce relevant, impactful recommendations.Practical AI ApplicationsFrom creating AI-driven RFP agents to developing AI tools that emulate senior employees' knowledge, simple yet impactful use cases can revolutionize workflows.Best Moments (01:10) – Daryn's Career Journey : From web developer to CEO, Daryn details how his unique background has shaped his approach to marketing and AI-led transformation.(04:53) – The Growing Importance of AI Readiness : Daryn highlights how data silos and poor data quality hinder AI's potential and shares insights from Hubble Digital's recent research.(10:57) – AI's Role in Revolutionizing ABM : Daryn and Paul discuss how AI-powered tools are automating manual tasks, leading to better account targeting and personalized campaigns.(14:00) – The Disconnect Between Leadership and Reality : A candid discussion on why executives often overestimate their organizations' AI capabilities.(34:06) – AI in Practical Use Cases : Daryn shares how Hubble Digital uses AI agents to streamline RFP responses and retain institutional knowledge.(22:27) – Evolving Data Systems : Tips on keeping CRM and ABM systems agile to adapt to business changes, ensuring they retain their value long term.Tech RecommendationsHubSpot – A platform supporting ABM strategies and AI integration for CRM efficiency.Fathom.ai – A tool for turning unstructured sales and marketing data into actionable insights.Books:Hacking Marketing by Scott Brinker - Agile Practices to Make Marketing Smarter, Faster, and More InnovativeDharmesh Shah - Founder & CTO, HubSpotDave Gerhardt - Founder, Exit Five

    Ep. 530 | 95-5 Strategy: Brand Meets Demand

    Play Episode Listen Later May 8, 2025 40:16


    Episode SummaryTune in as host Paul Gibson sits down with Matthew Creswick, Chief Marketing Officer at Huble Digital, to explore the 95-5 marketing strategy. This insightful episode dives into balancing long-term brand building with capturing in-market demand, the evolving buyer landscape, the role of AI, and how intent data is changing the game for B2B marketers. Whether you're a seasoned pro or new to the field, this episode offers actionable advice and fresh perspectives on marketing strategy.About the GuestMatthew Creswick is an experienced marketing and business leader with over ten years of experience in the HubSpot industry. He has held senior roles, including Regional Managing Director, Chief Marketing Officer, and Chief Product Officer, and has worked across Europe and Southeast Asia.A certified HubSpot trainer with a Bachelor's degree in Business Management with Marketing, Matthew has been featured in Content Grip, the Huble Blog, and HubSpot.com. He is also a member of the CMO club in Exit Five and was recognized as an AMCHAM NextGen 2020 Leader.An active speaker and host, Matthew has presented at GWI Live and hosted multiple GWI virtual events.Beyond work, he enjoys football, golf, technology, and traveling the world.Website: https://huble.com/Connect with MatthewKey Takeaways- Understanding the 95-5 Framework: Focus on being memorable to the 95% not currently buying while effectively converting the 5% in-market.- Modern Buying Behaviors: Buyers prefer independence and typically resist traditional funnel tactics like forms and cold calls.- Power of Intent Data: Leveraging tools like Demandbase empowers marketers to identify accounts actively searching for solutions.- Building a Memorable Brand: Investing in brand equity ensures customers recall you when they're ready to buy.- AI's Role: AI enables scalable personalization, like crafting one-to-one tailored content and identifying actionable insights.Quotes"Brand isn't just for billion-dollar companies with Super Bowl ads. It's the asset that keeps your pipeline alive even when your ad budget dries up.”Recommended ResourceBooks: - Shoe Dog: A Memoir by the Creator of NIKE  by Phil Knight.- Purple Cow: Transform Your Business by Being Remarkable by Seth GodinNewsletters:- Exit Five  by Dave Gerhardt.- Newsletter by Kieran Flanagan from HubSpot.Shout-Outs- Gary Vaynerchuk - Chairman – VaynerX, CEO – VaynerMedia, Creator – VeeFriends- Seth Godin - Founding editor of the Carbon Almanac, blogger and entrepreneur.- Dharmesh Shah - UK & Ireland Country Director, Present Technologies- Kieran Flanagan - Marketing (CMO, SVP) | All things AI | Sequoia Scout | Advisor- Dave Gerhardt - Founder, Exit Five

    Ep. 529 | Building SaaS Moats: Brand, Community, and AI

    Play Episode Listen Later May 6, 2025 29:30


    Episode SummaryThis episode explores how SaaS companies can create competitive moats through strong brands and authentic communities. Margaret Kelsey shares her expertise on why technology alone isn't a moat in today's landscape and how :: community, customer relationships, and values can differentiate brands for long-term success. The conversation also dives into the role of generative AI in marketing, actionable steps to build genuine customer connections, and strategies for amplifying brand stories across channels.About the GuestMargaret Kelsey is a CMO, marketing advisor, artist, and podcast host dedicated to creating shared languages that provide clarity, direction, and personal satisfaction. In her professional life, she develops effective go-to-market strategies, emphasizing the importance of aligning internal teams with their target audiences. Her artistic endeavors delve into the exploration of subconscious shared languages to create a human connection. Margaret also co-hosts a podcast (Don't Say Content) where the conversations center around creating shared languages within the workplace.Website: https://www.kodaris.com/Connect with MargaretKey Takeaways- Technology is No Longer a Moat Rapid innovation and the influence of AI mean competitors can replicate products quickly. Building moats today requires strong brands and loyal communities.- The Flywheel of Brand, Culture, and Community Companies succeed when their internal values align with their external brand and customer values, creating a "magnetic alignment" for differentiation.- Leverage Generative AI ThoughtfullyUse micro, proprietary data lakes to train AI tools, ensuring authenticity and avoiding the risks of public LLM (Large Language Model) contamination.- Start with Customer ConversationsOne of the simplest and most effective steps to building community is engaging directly with your happiest, most loyal customers in casual virtual or in-person settings.- Experiment and Monitor ChannelsEven in saturated channels, consistent experimentation helps uncover formats and content types that resonate with your audience.Quotes"You inherit credibility by bringing customers together and forming connections they value. That builds trust your brand can benefit from."Tech Recommendations- Riverside - A versatile platform for recording high-quality podcasts and interviews.Recommended ResourceBooks:- Radical Candor by Kim Scott - Be a Kick-Ass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity- The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins - A Life-Changing Tool That Millions of People Can't Stop Talking About

    Ep. 528 | The New Rules of Account-Based Marketing with Davis Potter

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 29, 2025 40:04


    Episode SummaryIn this special in-person episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody joins Davis Potter live from Austin, Texas, for a candid deep-dive into the evolution of account-based marketing. Davis draws on his experience across enterprise giants and nimble startups to unpack the real differences between demand gen and ABM—and why most companies are stuck in the middle.Together, they dissect the pitfalls of outdated ABM models, the importance of unifying go-to-market teams, and the need for signal-based measurement over legacy lead scoring. Davis explains the “account-based arrow,” ForgeX's new data model, and shares practical tips for aligning product marketing with ABM functions for retention and growth. Whether you're a team of one or leading a global strategy, this episode is packed with insights you can act on immediately.Key TakeawaysABM vs. Demand Gen: True ABM is more than just targeted demand generation; it requires a unified approach across sales and marketing.  Strategic ABM Implementation: Organizations should tailor their ABM strategy to their specific needs, considering factors like deal size and resources.  Measurement and Reporting: Effective ABM measurement involves tracking various metrics, including account engagement and pipeline progression, and requires a unified data model.  Cross-Functional Alignment: Alignment between ABM teams and other functions, such as product marketing, is crucial for success.  Evolving ABM: ABM is not static; it requires continuous evolution and adaptation to changing market dynamics and organizational needs.  Quotes“If you're just building lists off third-party intent and running ads, you're not doing ABM—you're just doing better DemandGen.”“Product marketing is not optional in an ABM strategy—it's foundational. They understand the customer better than anyone.”Best Moments 00:09-00:20 – Davis Potter's background and journey to 4Gex.  04:45-05:00 – The importance of aligning go-to-market strategy with business goals.  06:29-07:00 – Transitioning from demand generation to account-based marketing.  10:50-12:00 – The double funnel approach to measuring ABM success.  25:30-26:00 – The challenges of ABM benchmarks and data interpretation.  33:00-34:00 – The critical role of product marketing in ABM. Recommended resources:Newsletter:⁠ABM Tactics LinkedIn newsletter⁠ – Tactical, real-world GTM advice from the trenchesCertifications:⁠New ABM Certification Program⁠ by Demandbase in Partnership with ForgeXB2B Leaders to follow⁠Akriti Gupta⁠, Director of Marketing at LinkedIn  ⁠Désirée Daniels⁠, Retail Industry & ABM Marketing at LinkedInAbout the GuestDavis Potter is the Co-Founder of ForgeX, a firm dedicated to modernizing account-based go-to-market strategies through research-backed insights and scalable methodologies. With experience launching ABM programs at organizations like Google Cloud and Scale AI, Davis brings a rare blend of enterprise sophistication and startup agility. His unique journey—spanning billion-dollar enterprises and high-growth tech companies—has equipped him with a comprehensive view of ABM's past, present, and future.Davis is passionate about aligning sales, marketing, and product teams around unified goals and measurement systems. He frequently speaks on evolving ABM frameworks, first-party data strategies, and the shift from vanity metrics to actionable signals. Davis also co-leads the ForgeX and Demandbase certification program, shaping the next generation of account-based marketers.⁠Connect with Davis⁠.

    Ep. 527 | AI-First GTM: The New Playbook for Sales Execution

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 24, 2025 29:20


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Paul Gibson welcomes Hannah Ajikawo for a deeply insightful conversation on building strong go-to-market foundations and how AI is reshaping the future of sales execution.Hannah reflects on her career journey and the moment she realized that many teams don't truly understand strategy. She outlines the importance of focusing GTM energy on where businesses win most, shares her “go-to-market building blocks” framework, and explains how AI can enhance precision across the buyer journey—from awareness to pricing strategy.Whether you're leading a sales team, rolling out new tech, or trying to scale confidently, this episode is full of practical wisdom.Quotes“If you really sit down, remove ego, and look at the data—you'll find where you win. Focus there. That's the cheat code.”Best Moments (00:53) – Hannah Ajikawa's career journey and the founding of Revenue Funnel.  (02:51)-04:39 – The importance of GTM fundamentals and addressing underperforming teams.  (05:54) – How repositioning and focus transformed pipeline generation for a B2B tech company.  (10:00) – AI's influence on GTM strategies and sales processes.  (12:22) – Areas of GTM most primed to benefit from AI integration.  (16:19) – Actionable advice for strengthening GTM foundations.  (22:46) – How AI is changing account-based go-to-market approaches.Tech RecommendationsDemandbase – For GTM prioritization and signal intelligence.Sybill.ai – AI-powered call analysis and coaching.Twain.ai – Tailored messaging and engagement optimization.SimpleTalk.ai – Conversational AI for real-time needs handling.Resource RecommendationsPodcastsThe Founders PodcastDiary of a CEO (Stephen Bartlett) NewslettersSubstack (for AI newsletters)BlogsGates Notes- Bill Gates' blog    Daniel Priestley's content B2B Leaders to followJen Allen-Knuth, Founder, DemandJenLisa Kelly, Founder and CEO, Radical ResultsBarry Flaherty, GTM LeaderAbout the GuestHannah Ajikawo is an award-winning go-to-market consultant and founder of Revenue Funnel, helping B2B scale-ups unlock growth and optimize their revenue engines. With 16+ years of experience, Hannah has been recognised as a LinkedIn Top Voice, LinkedIn Sales Insider, Salesforce Influencer, and one of the 100 Most Powerful Women in Sales by Demandbase. She is also a HubSpot Modern Sales Leader and a global expert in aligning sales processes with modern buyer journeys to drive sustainable growth.Connect with Hannah.

    Ep. 526 | Bold Moves & B2B Breakthroughs: Inside the 2025 Marketing Playbook

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 23, 2025 20:48


    Episode summary:In this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Trent Talbert to dissect the 2025 B2B marketing landscape—from evolving ABM strategies to the real reason high-growth companies are struggling despite bigger budgets. Trent shares insights from the newly released AMP25 survey and offers sharp, data-backed guidance on where modern marketers should double down and what they should ditch.You'll hear why personalization is still broken in most orgs, how bold messaging can break through the noise, and why “do more with less” is a dangerous myth. Packed with practical wisdom and a few mic-drop moments, this episode is a must-listen for any B2B marketer looking to elevate their strategy this year.Key TakeawaysOptimism in Goals: A significant majority (80%) of B2B tech marketers are optimistic about achieving their goals this year.  Growth Challenges: Faster-growing companies often face more challenges, requiring a broader approach to marketing.  ABM and Personalization: Organizational silos can hinder effective ABM and personalization. Emerging brands have an advantage in implementing these strategies due to their lack of legacy systems.  Standing Out: Brands can capture attention through bold, creative, and emotionally resonant messaging that balances rational appeals.  Customer Focus: There's a growing emphasis on customer loyalty, lifetime value, and downstream engagement, including onboarding and renewals.  Budget Trends: Most budgets are flat or increasing, but companies are urged to choose either a cost-reduction or growth strategy.  Tactic Stability: The top six marketing tactics have remained consistent, highlighting the importance of executing fundamentals well and creating a coherent customer experience across channels.  Best Moments (00:35) - Trent Talbert's career journey in B2B tech.  (02:39) - The relationship between growth and marketing challenges.  (03:54) - Obstacles to fully leveraging ABM and personalization.  (06:51) - Strategies for brands to stand out.  (10:05) - Budget trends and strategic recommendations.  (14:05) - The importance of strategic focus.  (16:54) - Recommended tools in the intent and personalization space.  (18:05) - Trent's favorite reads and the importance of brand building.Tech RecommendationsDemandbase – ABM + intent toolsMutiny – Website personalizationBooks:The Four Conversations by Blair EnnsPodcasts:Two Bobs Podcast with Blair Enns & David C. BakerReports:April Six Marketing Pulse 2025Blair Enns, Founder, Win Without PitchingApril Dunford, Founder, Ambient Strategy, and positioning expert for tech companiesBob Wright, Founder, FirebrickAnna Powell, RevOps influencer in the B2B spaceAbout the guest:Trent Talbert is a seasoned professional with a strong background in strategy and account management. At April Six, Trent currently holds the position of Head of Strategy for North America. Prior to this role, Trent worked at Doremus as an Account Supervisor, gaining experience in various account executive roles. Trent has also worked in advertising and PR, further showcasing their diverse skill set. With a BS in Business-Marketing from the University of Missouri Trulaske College of Business, Trent is well-equipped to handle the challenges of their dynamic roles in the industry.Connect with Trent.

    Ep. 525 | The Future-Ready Martech Stack (and Mindset) You Need Now

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 16, 2025 27:50


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody welcomes Brandon Ratliff for a compelling conversation about the evolution of Martech, the promise (and limitations) of AI, and the art of staying future-ready in an ever-accelerating landscape.Brandon shares his unconventional path from coding hobbyist to martech leader, while offering tactical advice for building scalable stacks, enabling data-informed personalization, and fostering innovation within teams. He unpacks what it means to shift from “T-shaped” to “I-shaped” marketers, the human side of AI-driven growth, and how organizations can maintain curiosity to avoid losing their competitive edge.Whether you're leading an enterprise marketing team or scaling a scrappy startup strategy, Brandon's insight into modern Martech is both practical and visionary.Key TakeawaysThe Evolving Marketer: The shift from T-marketer to I-marketer highlights the importance of data literacy in addition to channel-specific expertise.  Data-Driven Marketing: Clean and well-utilized data is crucial for the success of MarTech initiatives.  Future of MarTech: AI and predictive analytics are key to enhancing efficiency, personalization, and ROI in marketing.  Essential MarTech Stack: A core MarTech stack includes a CDP, marketing automation platform, ABM tool, and CRM.  AI's Role in Marketing: AI enhances marketing through production, planning, creative management, and scaled personalization.  Importance of Human Connection: Human relationships remain fundamental in marketing and business despite technological advancements.  Future-Proofing Skills: Marketers must prioritize continuous learning, including prompt engineering and AI tools, to stay ahead.  Fostering Innovation: Leaders should encourage experimentation and calculated risk-taking to drive marketing innovation.  Qualities of a Modern Marketer: Key competencies include fearlessness, curiosity, creativity, and data-centricity.  Signs of Losing Competitive Edge: Stagnation, lack of investment in new tools, and failure to train employees are warning signs.  Change Management: Overcoming resistance to change and fostering belief in new initiatives is a significant challenge in marketing. Quotes“You don't have to know everything. But you do have to know your data.Best Moments 00:48 - 02:18 Brandon shares his journey into MarTech.  02:48 - 03:32 The importance of data in marketing.  05:36 - 06:20 Pragmatic approach to data.  06:54 - 08:14 Core components of a MarTech stack.  08:14 - 09:41 The role of AI in enhancing marketing.  10:33 - 12:29 The balance between technology and human connection.  13:13 - 16:38 Strategies for future-proofing marketing skills.  21:26 - 23:18 Signs a company is losing its competitive edge.  23:35 - 25:22 The biggest challenge in marketing today: change management.  About the GuestBrandon is a seasoned leader in marketing technology and operations at Qualcomm. With a passion for innovation and a knack for navigating the digital realm, Brandon has been instrumental in advancing Qualcomm's Martech strategies. He has successfully implemented transformative technologies, including advanced marketing automation and analytics tools, to drive data-driven success. Known for his thought leadership and commitment to staying ahead of industry trends, Brandon's work exemplifies the powerful synergy between marketing and technology. Join us as he shares his insights and experiences in unlocking the potential of the Martech stack.Connect with Brandon.

    Ep. 524 | The Market Speaks: Building GTM with Customer Voice

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 15, 2025 30:09


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody and Parth Mukherjee delve into the critical role of customer voices in shaping go-to-market strategies. Parth shares his journey through the tech industry, highlighting his experiences in product marketing and go-to-market strategy across different company stages. He emphasizes the importance of product marketing teams in bringing the customer's perspective into the organization and outlines the five key components of a go-to-market strategy: who, what, why, where, and how. Parth also discusses methods for collecting and analyzing customer data, balancing quantitative and qualitative feedback, and addressing stakeholder resistance. Additionally, he explores emerging marketing trends, the use of AI in marketing, and the challenges of B2B marketing, such as attribution.Key Takeaways:Voice of the Customer is Key: Customer insights are crucial for shaping effective go-to-market strategies.  Five Components of Go-to-Market Strategy: The five key questions to answer are who is the target audience, what are the offerings, why should buyers care, where should we sell, and how do we hit our targets.  Data Collection and Analysis: Utilize a combination of call recording technologies, surveys, customer interviews, and focus groups to gather customer feedback.  Balancing Quant and Qual: Combine quantitative data with qualitative insights to build compelling narratives and make informed decisions.  Addressing Stakeholder Resistance: Use proof and data to overcome internal misconceptions and align stakeholders.  Importance of Timing: Gather customer feedback throughout the product life cycle, starting from the product vision stage.  Emerging Marketing Trends: The importance of buyer self-education, hyper-personalized marketing, prompt engine optimization (PEO), and the convergence of ABM with intent data.Quotes“Product marketing should be the voice of the company in the market—and more importantly, the voice of the market inside the company.”Best Moments 00:07: Parth shares his journey into tech and marketing.  03:30: The importance of customer voices in shaping go-to-market strategy.  04:45: The five components of an effective go-to-market strategy.  07:30: Methods for data collection and analysis.  13:00: How to deal with stakeholder resistance using proof and data.  16:15: The importance of gathering customer feedback throughout the product life cycle.  19:00: Emerging marketing trends for the next five years.  22:30: Use cases of AI in marketing.24:30: The biggest challenge in B2B marketing: attribution. Tech Recommendations⁠Chorus⁠ – Call intelligence for market and product insights.⁠MindTickle⁠ – Deal rooms and enablement for modern B2B sales.⁠Klue⁠ – Competitive intelligence and win-loss analytics.Books:⁠Crossing the Chasm⁠ by Geoffrey Moore⁠Building a StoryBrand⁠ by Donald MillerBlogs & Newsletters:⁠HubSpot Blog⁠⁠Gartner for Go-To-Market Insights⁠⁠Marketing Brew⁠Podcasts:⁠Marketing Over Coffee⁠⁠Product Marketing Life by PMA⁠Shout-outs:⁠Kevin Akeroyd⁠, CEO at Sovos⁠Ann Handley⁠, Chief Content Officer at MarketingProfs⁠Andy Raskin⁠, Strategic Narrative CoachAbout the Guest:Parth Mukherjee is the VP of Product Marketing, Corporate Marketing, and Go-To-Market Strategy at Sovos, a leading tax compliance platform. With over 20 years of experience in tech marketing—including pivotal roles at Adobe, Cognizant, and five high-growth VC-backed startups (four of which successfully exited)—Parth brings deep expertise in scaling companies through every phase of growth.Before joining Sovos, Parth led marketing at Chorus and MindTickle, and continues to apply a data-driven yet deeply human approach to building strategic narratives that resonate with customers and internal stakeholders alike.⁠Connect with Parth⁠.

    Ep. 523 | How the Jobs-to-Be-Done Framework Uncovers Customer Blind Spots

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 10, 2025 24:14


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody is joined by Alison Mendoza to dive into the power of the Jobs-to-be-Done (JTBD) framework and its transformative impact on innovation, marketing, and product strategy. Alison shares her non-linear journey into R&D, how her background in linguistics shapes her collaboration with engineers, and how JTBD allows companies to avoid blind spots and uncover real customer needs.Listeners will gain insights into how Honeywell uses behavioral science and JTBD to drive meaningful product adoption, why traditional voice-of-customer methods often fall short, and how AI is unlocking strategic work by automating repetitive tasks. From uncovering misaligned innovation strategies to empowering teams through better language and observation, this episode is a masterclass in modern customer-centric thinking.Key takeaways:Jobs-to-be-Done (JTBD) vs. Hypotheticals: JTBD eliminates guesswork by focusing on observable behaviors, not hypothetical customer desires.Behavioral Science + JTBD = Impact: The fusion of decision-making psychology with JTBD drives better adoption and product-market fit.Innovation Pitfalls: Over-reliance on competitor analysis or legacy processes can limit true innovation.Speak Their Language: Product teams must translate customer outcomes into language engineers can act on.AI for Strategic Work: Honeywell's $120M in AI-driven savings shows how tech can free time for impactful, strategic work.Quotes:“We don't really have to worry about product-market fit if we've built a product on the Jobs-to-be-Done framework.”“If you use AI for simple tasks, it will give you simple output. Use it for complex challenges—like segmentation or positioning—and you'll see exponential value.”Best Moments Tech recommendations:⁠⁠Notebook LM (Google)⁠⁠: A powerful AI research assistant ideal for strategic marketing and A/B testing.Resource recommendations:⁠⁠Thinking, Fast and Slow⁠⁠ by Daniel KahnemanBooks by ⁠⁠Jonah Berger⁠⁠ – Practical marketing playbooks from the Wharton professor⁠⁠321 Newsletter by James Clear⁠⁠ – Weekly insights on habits, strategy, and self-improvementLeaders to follow:⁠⁠Chandler Stillman⁠⁠– Director, Marketing & Customer Experience at ADDMAN⁠⁠Liz Schmittou⁠⁠– Brand & Marketing Content Leader at ADDMAN⁠⁠Emily Carr⁠⁠– Consulting Account Lead at Google⁠⁠00:30⁠⁠Alison's global career journey from flight attendant to R&D innovatorBest moments:⁠⁠03:00⁠⁠JTBD explained and why most voice-of-customer methods fall short⁠⁠08:30⁠⁠How to bridge engineering and customer outcomes with the right language⁠⁠14:00⁠⁠The synergy between behavioral science and JTBD in shaping innovation⁠⁠16:40⁠⁠Honeywell's AI success: $120M saved through automation and productivity tools⁠⁠20:20⁠⁠The evolving challenges of B2B marketing and the role of dynamic contentAbout the guest:Alison is the Global Sr. Director of Innovation at Honeywell International, leading innovation and growth across the Honeywell portfolio of businesses. With over 15 years of global experience, she integrates customer-centric expertise in aerospace and advanced technology sectors. Alison is also a member of the Strategic Communications Committee at AUVSI and actively recruits for the Honeywell Political Action Committee. She shares insights on innovation, communication, persuasion, and leadership in her LinkedIn blogs.⁠⁠Connect with Alison⁠⁠.

    Ep. 522 | ABM & AI: Driving B2B Growth Today and Tomorrow

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 9, 2025 43:51


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Paul Gibson sits down with Shimon, a leading voice in B2B marketing from SPOTONVISION. The duo dives into the big topic of bridging short-term wins with long-term growth while discussing how Account-Based Marketing (ABM) and Artificial Intelligence (AI) are transforming the future of B2B marketing strategies.With insights drawn from years of partnership and expertise, this conversation explores how to balance immediate results with long-term objectives. Whether you're looking to improve 2025 metrics or future-proof your marketing strategies, this episode offers actionable takeaways to help your team succeed. Key TakeawaysShort-Term and Long-Term HarmonyAchieve a balance between quick wins that boost immediate outcomes and strategies for sustained growth.The Role of AI in B2B MarketingLeverage AI to enhance data analysis, improve personalization, and optimize campaign efficiency.ABM Done RightAdopt evolving Account-Based Marketing practices to create impactful engagements and measurable results.Future-Forward Marketing StrategiesStay ahead by understanding the trends and innovations shaping the future of B2B marketing.Quotes"The future of B2B marketing lies in leveraging the power of AI to do more with less, while keeping personalization at the core."Best Moments04:00–07:00 – Shimon dives into his career path and how ABM became a core focus.10:00–12:30 – Shimon explains how changing buyer behaviors redefines sales and marketing strategies.15:00–18:00 – A closer look at how ABM and AI address misalignment challenges.24:00–26:00 – Shimon shares his insights on the future role of AI in account-based GTM.30:00–33:00 – Predictions on the next evolution of ABM in the B2B space. Tech RecommendationsTrendemon - Highlighted as a platform that provides real-time personalization and insights to customize content for website visitors, leveraging AI for ease of use.Resource Recommendations Books:Mindset by Carol Dweck - Suggested for fostering a growth mindset and improving team collaboration and alignment.Atomic Habits by James Clear - Advocated for creating effective personal and team habits for growth and success. Shout-OutsJoel Harrison - Founder, B2B MarketingRyan Almond - Global Marketing & ABX Director, HenkelIngrid Archer - Managing Partner, SPOTONVISIONAbout the GuestShimon is a visionary leader who believes in the power of trust, purpose, and shared ambition to bring people together. He envisions a world where businesses don't just grow but thrive through meaningful relationships—both with their customers and within their teams.In B2B, Shimon sees one of the most powerful yet often overlooked connections: the alignment between marketing and sales. When these two forces come together, businesses don't just see results—they create a real, lasting impact.Every day, Shimon is on a mission to turn this vision into reality. Whether through the conversations he sparks, the communities he builds, or the insights he shares, he is constantly looking for others who share this belief. For those who want to create a world where relationships—between businesses, between people, and within organizations—are the true drivers of success.Website: Spotonvision.comConnect with Shimon.

    Ep. 521 | Benefits Decoded: Making Healthcare Choices Clear & Confident

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 3, 2025 27:19


    In this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody welcomes Nicole Warshauer for an enlightening conversation on health benefits, empathy-driven branding, and building consumer trust through education. Nicole walks us through her non-linear career journey and how her passion for community and storytelling has shaped her role at HealthEquity. She shares practical strategies for educating diverse healthcare consumers, discusses the emotional complexities of health benefits, and explores the skills marketers need to build brands around “unsexy” topics.Nicole also explores HealthEquity's innovative tools, such as Engage360 and HSAnswers, which use AI and multi-channel strategies to deliver personalized, accessible benefits education. Whether you're navigating the healthcare landscape or trying to humanize your B2B brand, this episode is full of actionable insights and authentic inspiration.Key TakeawaysEmpathy is Foundational: To demystify healthcare benefits, brands must lead with empathy—understanding emotional roadblocks like fear and confusion that often prevent consumers from making informed decisions.One Size Doesn't Fit All: Benefits education must be personalized. Demographics, health history, family structure, and financial literacy all play a role in how people access and use healthcare.Data-Driven Education Works: Programs like Engage360 have led to a 46% increase in HSA contributions and a 60% increase in investing, showing the power of well-targeted benefit education.Building Brands for “Unsexy” Industries: The best marketers can make even mundane products relatable. Skills like curiosity, critical thinking, empathy, and strong writing are essential for success.Tech with a Human Touch: AI tools can scale education efforts, but without human oversight and strategic intent, they won't succeed.Quotes“Marketing for the unglamorous takes empathy and grit. That's where the best brand builders thrive.”Tech recommendationsChatGPTJasperCopilotBook recommendationsStorytelling with Data by Cole Nussbaumer Knaflic – A go-to for making data digestible and visually compelling.Shout-outsJade Tambini, Founder and Marketing Course Leader, B2B Jade.Hannah Shamji, Customer researcher for B2B SaaS.Erica Schneider, Founder, Cut The Fluff.About the GuestNicole Warshauer is the VP of Brand Marketing at HealthEquity, where she builds, leads, and engages community-first marketing teams that drive brand growth and resilience. With more than 15 years of experience in marketing and communications across healthcare, tech, design, nonprofit, education, and real estate, Nicole has cultivated a unique ability to deliver integrated, purpose-driven strategies that resonate.She is passionate about creating and nurturing communities of brand evangelists—both internally and externally. Her past work includes collaborations with renowned organizations like Yelp, Dribbble, and Trusted Health. Nicole also offers consulting services to help managers lead high-performing remote teams and optimize their marketing strategy.Connect with Nicole.

    Ep. 520 | Beyond the Ticket: Building Award-Winning Support at Demandbase

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 27, 2025 21:56


    In this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Craig Chiofalo to explore what it truly takes to build and lead a world-class support engineering organization. Craig pulls back the curtain on the operational strategies and tech stack powering Demandbase's award-winning team—including how tools like Salesforce Einstein and SupportLogic are transforming their approach to proactive support. He also shares lessons on hiring for excellence, scaling impact without ballooning headcount, and why deep, daily collaboration across product, engineering, and customer success is the cornerstone of lasting success.Key takeawaysRight Team, Right Tech: Hiring the right talent, enabling them with strong onboarding and internal tools, and layering in AI-driven technologies can drive exponential impact without scaling the team linearly.Cross-Functional Collaboration Is Everything: Craig attributes much of the team's success to deep integration with product, engineering, and customer success—teams that work together daily to elevate the customer experience.Award-Winning Process Maturity: From rewritten job descriptions to internal training certifications and advanced sentiment monitoring, Craig's team has refined its approach year after year to earn industry recognition.Operationalized AI: AI tools like SupportLogic and Salesforce Einstein are leveraged not just for efficiency, but for better sentiment analysis, proactive support, and smarter data insights.Measure What Matters: In addition to SLAs, Craig's team emphasizes customer satisfaction and effort scores—tracking detailed metrics while staying focused on proactive issue resolution.QuotesOn Team Excellence“This team is phenomenal—not just individually, but in how they collaborate. That synergy is the catalyst behind everything we've achieved.”On Leveraging AI Thoughtfully“AI should be seen as an assistant. It's like a dishwasher—you still load it and unload it, but it saves time and effort on repetitive tasks.”(04:00): How Craig rewrote job descriptions and created testing processes to hire and retain top-tier talent.(09:00): A deep dive into Salesforce Service Cloud, SupportLogic, and the internal troubleshooting app that dramatically reduces time to resolution.(14:00): How the team uses data and proactive alerts to prevent fires before they happen.(18:00): Craig's thoughtful breakdown of AI as a productivity enhancer, not a replacement.Tech RecommendationsSalesforce Service Cloud + Einstein: A central support platform now enhanced with AI capabilities for smarter case handling.SupportLogic: Real-time sentiment analysis and escalation prediction across customer interactions.Resource RecommendationsNewsletter:MIT Technology Review – AI-focused and practicalHarvard Business Review – Daily updates on leadership and strategyMcKinsey – Insightful newsletters with AI-related contentShout-outsUmberto Milletti, Chief R&D Officer at DemandbaseAngelle Stromeyer, RVP Customer Success at DemandbaseErika Setla, Sr. Director, CX Strategy & Ops at DemandbaseAbout the GuestCraig Chiofalo is a customer-focused leader with over 20 years of experience directing customer support, service, and success teams across SMB to enterprise clients. Currently Vice President of Support Engineering at Demandbase, Craig leads a Stevie Award–winning team recognized for delivering outstanding customer service. He brings a proven track record of building high-performing, collaborative teams that exceed goals, with a leadership style rooted in fairness, energy, and a deep passion for technology.Craig has held key roles at IBM, Silverpop, CallRail, Calendly, and Salsify, often joining during critical growth phases to scale operations, implement smart automation, and drive cross-functional alignment. His expertise spans platforms like Salesforce, Zendesk, Jira, Confluence, and SQL—always with a hands-on, data-informed approach to delivering exceptional customer outcomes.

    Ep. 519 | Rethinking Outbound: Why Warmbound Is the Way Forward

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 25, 2025 33:32


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody chats with Maximus Greenwald about reimagining traditional outbound strategies through a concept he calls "warmbound"—the fusion of outbound execution with inbound energy. Maximus walks us through the broken state of traditional lead scoring, the inefficiencies of outdated TAM/SAM/SOM frameworks, and why marketers should own the pipeline.He breaks down how intent signals, AI, and horizontal marketing teams will reshape the future of GTM. Maximus also shares how he tests big bets as a founder, what marketers can learn from enterprise sellers, and how personalization must evolve in the age of generative AI.Key TakeawaysWarmbound, Not Outbound: The strict division between inbound (marketing) and outbound (sales) is outdated. The future is unified, pipeline-first, go-to-market strategies driven by intent.Classic Lead Scoring Is Broken: Rigid filters based on outdated firmographics miss major ICP opportunities. AI can dynamically model what actually drives revenue.Signal Stacking Is the New ICP: Combine CRM, intent data, buyer behavior, and historical signals to build a more accurate, real-time picture of purchase readiness.Marketers Should Own Pipeline: With the right data and tools, marketing can—and should—run outbound motions and be comped like sellers.Horizontal Over Vertical Marketing: Organize teams around the buyer journey stages (cold, warm, hot) instead of just marketing channels.Quotes“Inbound versus outbound is a false dichotomy. Your outbound should drive inbound, and your inbound should fuel outbound. It's all one team now.”“You don't stay in someone's TAM forever. SOM is dynamic. A lead heats up, cools down, and reenters. We need systems that move with that fluidity.”Best Moments03:00–05:00 – From Google Maps to SaaS: Maximus shares how he transitioned into sales and marketing.06:30–09:00 – What's broken in lead scoring—and how AI can fix it.13:00–16:00 – Rethinking TAM, SAM, and SOM as dynamic, not static.20:00–24:00 – The rise of the horizontally structured marketing org.28:00–31:00 – Why marketers should carry a quota—and get paid like enterprise reps.Tech RecommendationsAutobound – An AI-powered sales copywriting tool that personalizes based on deal-winning language.Default – An Inbound lead routing and scheduling engine.Resource RecommendationsPodcast:30 Minutes to President's Club.Report:The 2025 State of Marketing Report by HubSpot.Shout-outsKieran Flanagan – SVP of Marketing at HubSpot.Dave Gerhardt – Founder of Exit Five, formerly Drift.Hunter Walk – Partner and Co-Founder at Homebrew.Finn Murphy – General Partner at Nebular VC.About the GuestMaximus Greenwald is the Co-founder and CEO of Warmly, an AI-powered outbound platform that transforms how companies think about lead generation, pipeline development, and the convergence of sales and marketing. Before founding Warmly, Maximus began his career in engineering and product development at Google Maps, and eventually made the leap from big tech to B2B SaaS entrepreneurship. Today, he helps hundreds of companies unify inbound and outbound strategies under one mission: driving warm leads through smarter, signal-based marketing.Connect with Maximus.

    Ep. 518 | Aligning Marketing & Sales Through Authentic Storytelling

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 20, 2025 35:09


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Susan Bloomfield to discuss the power of authentic storytelling in aligning marketing and sales. Susan shares her journey from research to marketing leadership and how she built her expertise in business development. She dives deep into the three P's of storytelling—People, Passion, and Purpose—and how they drive engagement and differentiate brands.She also highlights how marketing can support sales in a way that feels genuine, engaging, and human—while still delivering measurable results. If you're looking to create a brand strategy that resonates and builds strong relationships, this conversation is a must-listen!Key TakeawaysThe Three P's of Storytelling: A compelling marketing strategy is built on People, Passion, and Purpose—focusing on the human side of business and brand identity.Sales & Marketing Alignment: To effectively align marketing and sales, marketers must ensure that content and branding support real customer conversations.Authenticity Wins: Customers connect with brands that tell relatable, real stories rather than generic, polished corporate messaging.The Role of AI in Marketing: AI can assist with content generation, personalization, and campaign testing, making storytelling and brand engagement more scalable.The Power of Personal Brands: The rise of micro-influencers and relatable voices on platforms like TikTok has transformed the way companies approach brand marketing.Quotes"The best brands amplify success—not just their own, but the success of the people they serve.""If you want to align marketing and sales, you have to make marketing an extension of sales, not just a content factory.""People buy from people. Storytelling isn't about selling—it's about building relationships and trust."Best Moments03:00–05:00 – Susan shares her unconventional journey into marketing and business development.10:00–12:00 – How aligning marketing and sales starts with understanding their shared goals.15:00–18:00 – Why brands should focus on relatable storytelling instead of polished, corporate messaging.22:00–24:00 – The impact of AI on content personalization and storytelling.30:00–32:00 – How emerging micro-influencers are redefining brand authenticity.Resource RecommendationsBook: The Long Game – A deep dive into strategic thinking and planning for long-term success.Publication: Fast Company – A go-to resource for thought leadership and marketing innovation.About the GuestSusan Bloomfield serves as Chief Marketing Officer at Stream Realty Partners.After joining Stream Realty Partners in 2019, she has brought a blend of visionary storytelling and advanced marketing strategies to Stream's forefront. Prior to Stream, Susan served as the Vice President of U.S. Marketing & Research for Colliers International, where she played a crucial role as a member of the senior executive team. Her leadership was instrumental in expanding the firm's strategic marketing and research platform, elevating brand visibility, and fostering expansive business growth.Website: StreamRealty.comConnect with Susan.

    Ep. 517 | The ABM Optimization Playbook: Balancing Strategy & Execution

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 13, 2025 25:19


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Caroline Quinn to explore the nuances of optimizing Account-Based Marketing (ABM) strategies. Caroline shares her deep insights on defining the right ABM mix, navigating between one-to-one, one-to-few, and programmatic ABM approaches, and ensuring marketing investments align with business priorities. She also highlights the importance of curiosity, listening skills, and marketing technology in executing successful ABM programs.With practical frameworks and real-world examples, this discussion is essential for marketers looking to refine their ABM strategies and drive meaningful engagement with key accounts.About the GuestCaroline is an enterprise technology marketer specializing in account-based marketing (ABM) and demand generation. At Cloudflare, she drives demand through targeted campaigns for strategic accounts. Her past roles include building a $65M ABM program at Blue Yonder and developing ABM strategies for sellers at tech organizations such as Google and Apple at PipelineIQ. Caroline began her career at Kronos (now UKG).Monterrey.Connect with CarolineKey Takeaways- Balancing the ABM Pyramid: A strong ABM strategy requires the right mix of one-to-one, one-to-few, and one-to-many approaches. Over-rotating on either extreme can lead to inefficient resource allocation.- The Power of Discovery: A successful ABM program starts with deep discovery—marketers must listen to sellers, understand account needs, and customize approaches accordingly.- Tech-Enabled Personalization: While ABM technology can help scale efforts, marketers must also define key engagement signals manually to ensure flexibility and relevance.- Justifying ABM Investments: To secure buy-in for one-to-one ABM, marketers should use intent data, pipeline signals, and phased investment approaches to demonstrate ROI.- Content as an ABM Multiplier: AI-driven content repurposing can significantly enhance the impact of ABM efforts, making it easier to tailor messaging to different segments and accounts.Quotes"The best ABM programs are fluid—accounts should move between tiers based on their intent and engagement."Tech Recommendations- Demandbase – For account intelligence and ABM execution.- Sendoso – Direct mail platforms for personalized account engagement.- Pipeline IQ – For account profiling and intelligence.- Boardroom Insiders – Executive profiling tool for ABM personalization.- Folloze – Landing page and campaign personalization tool.Recommended ResourceBooks:Multipliers by Liz Wiseman – A must-read for leaders aiming to maximize team performance.

    Ep. 516 | The Rise of Agentic AI in B2B GTM

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2025 24:41


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Chad Holdorf to discuss how agentic AI is revolutionizing B2B go-to-market strategies. They explore the rise of AI-driven agents, why automation leaders are doubling down on AI, and the biggest mistakes B2B teams make with AI adoption. Chad also shares real-world use cases from Demandbase, showing how AI agents streamline workflows, enhance intent-based targeting, and deliver predictive recommendations to sales and marketing teams.If you're a sales or marketing leader, this episode will give you actionable insights on how to integrate AI-powered GTM workflows while ensuring data accuracy, personalization, and efficiency.Key takeaways:AI Agents Are Reshaping GTM – AI-driven agents can help 10x productivity, making teams more efficient while removing friction from sales and marketing workflows.The Biggest AI Mistake – Companies focus too much on the technology itself rather than on solving real customer problems. AI should be outcome-driven.From Data Overload to Actionable Insights – AI-driven intent signals analyze vast amounts of GTM data, surfacing key insights and next best actions for sales and marketing teams.AI SDRs Are Failing Without Context – AI agents that lack proper customer data make embarrassing mistakes, like sending irrelevant emails to buyers who already know the product.Agent Base: AI with Context & Accuracy – Demandbase's Agent Base ensures that AI-driven sales and marketing actions are informed by accurate, unified data, preventing misalignment between teams.AI Must Be Embedded in the Workflow – AI agents should enhance existing workflows rather than requiring users to switch between multiple tools, ensuring smooth execution.Future of AI in B2B – The next wave of AI will focus on deep research capabilities, personalized recommendations, and predictive actions, eliminating guesswork for GTM teams.Quotes:"The most powerful AI agents aren't just about automation – they're about solving real customer problems and making revenue teams more effective.""Without the right data, AI agents are just noise. The difference between success and failure in AI-driven GTM is data accuracy and context."Best moments:03:00–05:00: Chad shares his journey to Demandbase and his vision for AI-powered GTM strategies.08:00–10:00: Why AI adoption is skyrocketing but the execution still lags behind in B2B companies.12:00–15:00: Breaking down how Agent Base delivers real-time AI-driven insights without adding complexity.18:00–22:00: The biggest failures of AI SDRs and how data-driven AI agents can solve these issues.25:00–30:00: The future of AI in sales & marketing – from predictive modeling to agent-driven engagement.Tech recommendations:Perplexity AI – AI-powered deep research for customer insights & content generation.OpenAI / Gemini – AI tools for data processing & workflow automation.Book recommendations:The Inner Game of Tennis by W. Timothy Gallwey – A classic on performance psychology & learning through observation.Podcast recommendations:My First Million – A business podcast that breaks down growth strategies & success stories.Leaders to follow:Gabe Rogol, CEO at DemandbaseUmberto Milletti, Chief R&D Officer at DemandbaseKelly Hopping, CMO at DemandbaseMarc Benioff, Chair & CEO at Salesforce.Parker Harris, CTO at SalesforceSign up for AgentbaseMeet Chad at the Forrester B2B Summit (March 30) & EMEA Conference in London (April 30).Sign up for Demandbase's AI Agent Design Partner Program – coming soon!Follow Chad Holdorf on LinkedIn for AI-driven B2B insights.About the guest:Chad Holdorf is VP of Product at Demandbase, leading product to transform how marketers drive pipeline and revenue. With 15+ years in product, including leadership roles at Pendo, Salesforce, and John Deere, he builds high-performing teams, drives bold product strategies, and delivers results.Connect with Chad Holdorf.

    Ep. 515 | Aligning ABX Strategies with Diverse Tech Environments

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 28, 2025 27:03


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Judit Szabo to discuss the complexities of aligning account-based strategies within diverse tech environments. With organizations facing challenges in tailoring ABX (Account-Based Experience) initiatives across different teams, tools, and processes, Judit shares her insights on how to execute ABX successfully.From understanding skill sets that drive alignment to navigating sales and marketing collaboration, she provides actionable insights on overcoming common obstacles, measuring success, and adapting methodologies for different organizations.Judit also explores the role of AI in account-based strategies, how technology enhances personalization, and why holistic, data-driven approaches are critical for long-term success.About the GuestJudit is a  B2B marketing leader with 15+ years at IT Software and Services companies, Judit has PR and Media experience prior to joining the Tech industry. She was the winner of the 2019 Forrester ROI Honours Award in Europe for sales & marketing alignment at TIBCO Software with the introduction of transformative, industry-led value based GTM strategies. She has a strong passion for building and leading global teams with a sweet spot for Demand Generation and Growth Marketing, leading the development and management of integrated marketing strategies and execution to deliver growth and revenue for the business. She has experience in campaign and content management, digital, field, partner, and account-based marketing as well as data and performance-led marketing operations, advocating cross-functional collaboration across Marketing, Sales, Product and Operations with special focus on finding ways to optimise and orchestrate business processes in support of strategic objectives. In her free time, she's an avid yoga practitioner, as well as a volunteer baker at her local National Trust estate in England.Connect with Judit SzaboKey Takeaways - Holistic Thinking Drives ABX Success – Account-based management isn't just a marketing function; sales and marketing must work together to grow and penetrate accounts.- Patience Is Essential – ABX is a long-term strategy, not a quick fix. Expect an 18+ month cycle for results, and celebrate small wins along the way.- Data is the Foundation – Strong account intelligence is key to avoiding misalignment and wasted efforts. The right tools and governance ensure that teams are acting on reliable data.- Aligning Sales & Marketing Requires Process, Not Just Intent – Establish shared KPIs, define roles, and create a feedback loop to ensure alignment throughout the account lifecycle.- One-to-One ABX is the Goal, But Requires Strong Foundations – Organizations should first build a solid demand generation engine before scaling to hyper-personalized, one-to-one outreach.- AI Can Help, But It's Not a Silver Bullet – While AI can assist with personalization, content generation, and automation, it can't replace the strategic thinking needed to execute ABX effectively.Quotes"The three most important skills for ABX success? A holistic approach, patience, and a data-driven mindset. Without these, execution will fall apart."Recommended ResourceBooks:⁠Coaching for Performance⁠ by Sir John Whitmore – A leadership guide on empowering teams and driving success through coaching.

    Ep. 514 | How Digital Accessibility Drives Customer Loyalty and Growth

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 21, 2025 26:49


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Chad Sollis to discuss why digital accessibility is a strategic priority for brands today. Chad shares his journey from graphic design to marketing leadership, highlighting the importance of accessibility in enhancing brand reputation, compliance, and consumer loyalty. He breaks down the key principles of accessibility, how it impacts SEO, and best practices for embedding accessibility into marketing and product development.Key Takeaways-Digital Accessibility is a Brand Imperative: One in four Americans has a disability, representing $20B in buying power. Accessible experiences foster loyalty and repeat business.-SEO and Accessibility Go Hand-in-Hand: Proper use of header tags, alt text, and navigation structures benefits both search rankings and user experience.-Prioritizing Accessibility in Design & Development: Integrating accessibility into design, development, and QA processes ensures it becomes a natural part of content creation rather than an afterthought.-Measuring ROI on Accessibility: Companies that invest in accessibility see improved website traffic, increased conversions, and long-term customer loyalty.Quotes"When companies design for accessibility, they're not just meeting compliance requirements—they're creating more inclusive and engaging experiences for all customers."Best Moments 03:00–05:00 – Chad's unconventional journey from graphic design to marketing leadership.10:00–13:00 – Why accessibility should be a strategic priority for senior leaders.15:00–18:00 – The connection between SEO and accessibility: how structure improves discoverability.22:00–25:00 – Overcoming accessibility challenges and integrating best practices into business processes.30:00–33:00 – How brands can measure the ROI of their accessibility initiatives.Tech RecommendationsStoryblok – Headless CMS that streamlines content personalization and accessibility.Amplience- An AI content platform.Mutiny – AI-driven personalization platform to optimize user experiences.Resource RecommendationsBooks:-Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink-How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale CarnegieShout-outs-Scott Harris, VP of Performance Marketing at Box.com – Marketing expert with a deep understanding of growth strategies.-Nick Rico, Chief Commercial Officer at Lucid Software – Growth leader with a background in finance and marketing.-Manuel Rietzsch, VP, Revenue Marketing at AudioEye – Revenue marketing leader driving accessibility-focused initiatives.About the GuestChad Sollis is a seasoned marketing and product leader with over two decades of experience in driving business growth and innovation across various industries. As the Chief Marketing Officer, Chad spearheads strategic initiatives in brand development, product marketing, growth, revenue operations, and customer engagement.As a data-driven executive, Chad has demonstrated a remarkable ability to scale businesses, having contributed to the growth of companies from $30 million to $3 billion in annual revenue and helping 4 companies execute successful IPOs. With a diverse background that includes leadership roles at market-leading companies such as Adobe, Pluralsight, Vivint, and Traeger, he has generated a wealth of expertise in marketing, digital products, and technology spanning both B2B and B2C sectors.Connect with Chad.

    Ep. 513 | The Real Sales KPIs That Drive Business Success

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 13, 2025 21:28


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Abhishek Damani to discuss the critical role of aligning sales performance metrics with broader business goals. They explore why traditional sales metrics sometimes fall short and how companies can define KPIs that reflect strategic priorities.Abhishek also shares his structured four-step approach for identifying and tracking performance indicators, along with insights into how AI is transforming sales processes. Whether you're a revenue leader, a sales manager, or a marketer looking to bridge the gap with sales teams, this episode is packed with practical takeaways on driving efficiency and improving business impact.About the GuestAbhishek Damani leads sales enablement for Industrial markets business at Cummins Inc., where he's responsible for driving sales functional excellence by implementing tools and creating resources, training, and KPIs to improve sales teams' productivity.Cummins Inc. is a global power solutions leader helping its customers successfully navigate the energy transition with its broad portfolio of products. The products range from advanced diesel, natural gas, electric, and hybrid powertrains and powertrain-related components. Headquartered in Columbus, Indiana (U.S.), since its founding in 1919, Cummins employs approximately 75,500 people committed to powering a more prosperous world.Connect with Abhishek DamaniKey Takeaways- Aligning Sales KPIs with Business Goals is Crucial:Measuring only revenue growth can create misalignment with broader company objectives like profitability or market expansion. Sales teams must tailor their KPIs to reflect business priorities.- Traditional Sales Metrics Have Blind Spots:While win rate and sales velocity are important, they fail to capture long-term trends like customer sustainability goals, industry shifts, and regional sales discrepancies.- Four Steps to Defining Impactful KPIs:Understand strategic and operational business goals.Identify KPIs that track progress toward those goals.Determine how sales contributes to those metrics and what data is required.Measure progress and drive accountability.- AI is Enhancing Sales Processes:From summarizing meeting notes to tracking customer engagement and automating administrative tasks like expense reporting, AI is freeing up valuable time for sales teams.- Bridging Sales and Marketing with Data:Cummins uses a structured business planning process to ensure sales forecasts align with market trends, breaking silos between sales, marketing, and engineering teams.Quotes"If KPIs don't align with company goals, everyone gets frustrated. Sales meets their numbers, but leadership still isn't happy."Tech Recommendations-reMarkable Paper Tablet – A digital notebook for handwritten notes and organization.- AI-Powered Meeting Note Summarizers – Automating administrative tasks like note-taking and action item tracking.Recommended ResourceBooks:-How Not to Be Wrong: The Power of Mathematical Thinking by Jordan Ellenberg.-The First 90 Days by Michael Watkins.Podcast:-Everyday AI Podcast by Jordan Wilson.⁠Connect with Abhishek Damani⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠|⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on LinkedIn ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠|⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website

    Ep. 512 | Rewiring the GTM Strategy With a Systems-Based Approach

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2025 37:13


    Episode SummaryIn this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Kelly Flowers to discuss the power of systems-based strategy in driving predictable outcomes in sales development. Kelly shares her unique journey into sales, the lessons she learned from transitioning industries, and how she developed a structured approach to pipeline generation, OKRs, and sales efficiency. She also highlights the biggest challenges in sales today, the role of AI in streamlining sales processes, and the myths that hold sales teams back. With practical insights and actionable strategies, this conversation is a must-listen for revenue leaders looking to optimize their go-to-market strategies and drive consistent results. About the Guest Kelly Flowers serves as the AVP, of Global Sales Development at SentinelOne and previously held positions including Head of Sales and Business Development at 1Password, Director of AMER Sales Development at Databricks, and Senior Manager of Customer Success, Enterprise Renewals at New Relic, Inc.  Additionally, Kelly has experience as a Manager of Sales Development and as an SDR Manager at Wizeline, as well as serving as the San Francisco Community Chair for Women in Sales Everywhere (WISE). Kelly holds a degree in Global Studies & Spanish, International Relations from Sonoma State University and has also studied Spanish Language at Tecnológico de Monterrey. Connect with Kelly Key Takeaways- Systems Thinking vs. Goal Setting: Goals help you achieve one-time success, but systems-based strategies ensure sustainable, repeatable success. - Pipeline Predictability Comes from Process: Breaking down the sales cycle into measurable inputs and outputs helps reps consistently hit quota. - Behavior Matters as Much as Performance: Being a "quota crusher" isn't enough—collaboration, integrity, and consistency are key to long-term success. - AI as a Sales Multiplier, Not a Replacement: Sales professionals must leverage AI tools for research, prioritization, and process automation—but human connection remains essential. Quotes "Revenue intelligence makes arguments about 'who said what' obsolete by providing unfiltered, real-time data everyone can trust." Recommended Resources Books:- Setting the Table by Danny Meyer Newsletter: - Endurance by Katie Ceccarini Podcast: - Grit with Joubin Mirzadegan Connect with Kelly⁠ ⁠⁠⁠| ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on LinkedIn ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠| ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website

    Ep. 511 | Elevating Account-Based GTM with Revenue Intelligence

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 21, 2025 43:33


    Episode Summary In this episode of OnBase, hosts Chris Moody and Alicia Hale sit down with Udi Ledergor to explore the transformative power of revenue intelligence in account-based go-to-market strategies. Udi shares insights from his extensive career, breaking down the evolution of revenue intelligence, its impact on sales and marketing alignment, and the role of AI in reshaping the buyer experience. With thought-provoking anecdotes and actionable advice, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways for revenue leaders aiming to drive growth and foster collaboration. About the Guest Udi Ledergor is a five-time Marketing leader at B2B start-ups and is currently the Chief Evangelist at Gong. On his journey from Marketer #1 to Gong's Chief Marketing Officer, he led the creation of the revenue intelligence category, pioneered an iconic, human-centric brand, and led Gong's Marketing efforts from zero to hundreds of millions in revenue. Passionate about startups and brands during the day, whisky, music, and social activism at night, Udi is also an author, speaker, mentor, angel investor, board member, and advisor based in San Francisco. Connect with Udi Key Takeaways - CRM is Becoming Obsolete: Traditional CRM systems fail due to partial, delayed, and biased data. AI-driven tools like Gong are set to replace outdated CRM workflows by automating updates and delivering accurate, real-time insights. - The Power of Mirroring in Sales: Reps who mirror a buyer's language, including subtle use of swearing, can build rapport and improve win rates by up to 8%. - Sales Success Lies in Listening: Reps who speak less than 46% of the time on calls outperform those who dominate conversations, highlighting the importance of listening to buyer needs. - Revenue Intelligence Fuels Team Alignment: By providing a single source of truth, Gong removes guesswork, aligning sales, marketing, and rev ops on shared data and actionable insights. - AI Enhances Buyer Engagement: From instant call summaries to personalized follow-ups, AI simplifies workflows and improves the buying experience, making it more efficient and human-centered. Quotes “Revenue intelligence makes arguments about ‘who said what' obsolete by providing unfiltered, real-time data everyone can trust.” Recommended Resource Books: - Think Again by Adam Grant - Red Notice by Bill Browder - Freezing Order by Bill Browder ⁠Connect with Udi⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠| ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on LinkedIn ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠| ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website

    Ep. 510 | How Strategic Content Fuels B2B Growth

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 21, 2025 18:36


    Epiosde Summary In this episode of OnBase, host Paul Gibson speaks with Becky Lawlor about transforming B2B content from digital noise into revenue-driving assets. Becky shares insights into the power of original research, emerging content formats, and distribution strategies that cut through B2B noise. From gated content strategies to the role of AI in modern marketing, Becky discusses how B2B marketers can unlock revenue potential with quality, data-driven content. About the Guest Becky Lawlor is the Founder and Chief Research and Content Officer at Redpoint Content, an agency specializing in original research and thought leadership content for B2B tech brands. With over a decade of experience working with companies ranging from startups to Fortune 500s—including Adobe, IBM, and Zapier—Becky has helped clients achieve 2-3x more leads, extensive media coverage, and a measurable boost in engagement. Her passion for data-driven storytelling and original research stems from her ability to excel across content marketing metrics like SEO, brand awareness, and thought leadership. Over the years, she's surveyed hundreds of B2B audiences and partnered with global marketing teams to deliver research-based content that drives demand and builds credibility. Connect with Becky Key Takeaways - Content That Converts: Original research content drives 3-5x higher engagement than generic educational pieces. - Strategic Gating: Gate content strategically to balance lead capture and accessibility, ensuring a value exchange for gated materials. - Effective Distribution Channels: Focus on one-to-one channels like email and LinkedIn, supported by cornerstone content like webinars, reports, and podcasts. - Data-Driven Decisions: Combine customer insights with marketing data to align content with customer needs and behavior. - The Role of AI: AI tools can enhance brainstorming, outlining, data analysis, and summarizing, but human expertise ensures the quality and relevance of the output. Quotes On Gated Content“The key is to gate content that justifies the investment and offers buyers real value in exchange for their data.” Tech Recommendations - AI tools like ChatGPT and Copilot - Gong for recording calls and deeper insights Recommended Resource Podcasts: - Content Briefly - B2B Marketing with Dave Gerhardt Books:- Obviously Awesome Connect with Becky⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠| ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on LinkedIn ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠| ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website

    Ep. 509 | Budget Battles: Aligning Sales, Marketing, and Finance for Growth

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2025 35:53


    Episode Summary In this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody speaks with Max Maurier about the intricacies of aligning budgets across sales, marketing, and finance to drive organizational growth. They discuss the importance of setting clear go-to-market priorities, measuring ROI accurately, and fostering cross-functional communication to bridge gaps in alignment. Max shares insights into overcoming budget challenges, balancing investments between top-of-funnel and bottom-of-funnel activities, and using innovative AI tools to streamline marketing processes. About the guest Max is an experienced marketing executive with his sights set on ROI and maximizing engagement. His revenue-minded approach to Demand Generation is built on a foundation of Marketing Analytics and Operations. Efficient growth marketing and revenue optimization are the pillars of Max's ongoing success. He's a no-fluff marketer with a passion for maniacal execution of GTM strategy, data-driven analysis and sales alignment. Max builds world-class teams and employs modern AI-powered MarTech designed to inspect what's expected and scale sales and marketing processes to drive growth. Connect with Max Key takeaways - Sales, Marketing, and Finance Alignment: Achieving cross-functional harmony requires clear priorities, shared goals, and consistent communication throughout the fiscal year. - Tailored Budget Allocation: Investments should align with specific go-to-market priorities, such as new logo acquisition, customer retention, or cross-sell opportunities. - The Role of Soft Skills: Presentation skills and structured communication are critical for marketing leaders to gain stakeholder buy-in and showcase the impact of their strategies. - Innovative AI Applications: Tools like Google's Notebook LM reshape internal training by transforming written assets into engaging audio formats. - Metrics-Driven Decision-Making: Choosing the right KPIs and frameworks to measure marketing's impact on revenue is vital for demonstrating ROI and refining strategies. Quotes On Alignment: “Sales, marketing, and finance need to align on go-to-market priorities for budgets to reflect the organization's true objectives.” On Presentation: “Great presentation skills can make or break your ability to secure buy-in during critical budget discussions.”

    Ep. 508 | The CEO's Guide to Transforming Thought Leadership into Sales Success

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 16, 2024 24:57


    Episode Summary In this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody talks with Kris Rudeegraap about innovative approaches to thought leadership, the use of AI tools, and leveraging direct mail to break through email saturation and create personalized customer experiences. Kris shares his journey from Silicon Valley software sales to founding Sendoso, a category-defining direct mail and gifting platform. The conversation dives into actionable strategies for building a thought leadership culture, using AI for smarter engagement, and orchestrating complex sales processes. Kris highlights how combining creative campaigns, social media, and direct mail can generate significant pipeline growth and enhance brand awareness. About the guest Kris Rudeegraap is the co-founder and CEO of Sendoso, the leading Sending Platform. Kris has more than a decade of sales experience and has spent time at Talkdesk, Yapstone, and Piqora. During that time, he discovered that creating meaningful engagements through direct mail and gifting was an effective way to drive demand and increase sales—which helped inspire the idea for Sendoso. Kris is a California native and CSU-Chico alum currently residing in the Bay Area. Connect with Kris Key takeaways - Thought Leadership as a Growth Driver: Kris emphasizes the role of thought leadership in educating the market, inspiring internal teams, and generating quality leads. - The Power of Direct Mail: Innovative direct mail campaigns, integrated with social and digital channels, can cut through saturated email inboxes and create memorable customer interactions. - Leveraging AI for Sales Enablement: Kris outlines how tools like Clay, Hyperbound, and Grace are revolutionizing outreach, training, and account management. - Category Creation: Educating the market is critical in emerging categories. Thought leadership and community building can amplify this effort. - Social Media for Pipeline Growth: Consistently sharing content and creating employee-driven advocacy on platforms like LinkedIn can be a lead generation powerhouse. Quotes On Thought Leadership:"Thought leadership inspires your team internally and builds trust externally, driving both brand value and pipeline growth." On Personalization:"Customers don't want just another email—they want relevance, authenticity, and creativity at every touchpoint." Books: - Revenge of the Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell Newsletters: - Hypergrowth Leadership - Andy's newsletter

    Ep. 507 | Buying Groups: The Next Seismic Shift in ABM

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 12, 2024 34:43


    Episode Summary In this episode of the OnBase podcast, Chris Moody hosts Jeremy Schwartz, who shares insights on the seismic shift from MQL-based approaches to buying groups in Account-Based Marketing (ABM). Jeremy discusses his extensive background in marketing and the challenges of traditional lead-based systems, emphasizing inefficiencies like low conversion rates and misaligned metrics. He highlights the transformative potential of buying groups, explaining how they enable better targeting and personalized engagement across accounts. Jeremy delves into the importance of leveraging data science, marketing automation, and RevOps collaboration to identify and activate high-value opportunities, while sharing practical examples from his experience at Palo Alto Networks. This engaging conversation offers actionable strategies for aligning sales and marketing teams to drive opportunity creation and improve pipeline outcomes. About the guest Jeremy Schwartz is the Sr. Manager of Global Lead Management & Strategy at Palo Alto Networks. He is a seasoned Global RevOps Marketing Leader with over 25 years of experience driving growth and innovation for B2B organizations. Renowned for pioneering strategic buying group models, Jeremy specializes in optimizing demand generation and lead management to deliver measurable results. His expertise lies in architecting large-scale, integrated campaigns that enhance visibility, engagement, and revenue. Committed to fostering collaboration, Jeremy aligns marketing and sales to achieve operational harmony and shared objectives. By leveraging data-driven insights, he transforms complex challenges into strategic growth opportunities, creating long-term business impact and scalable success. Connect with Jeremy Key takeaways - Traditional MQL models lead to inefficiencies like low conversion rates, wasted resources, and engagement with low-priority contacts. Jeremy explains how these models fail to identify real opportunities within accounts. - Jeremy describes buying groups as the next evolution in ABM, focusing on identifying multiple stakeholders within an account and targeting them collectively to improve opportunity creation. - First-, second- and third-party intent signals are critical to identifying active buying groups within accounts. Understanding these signals allows for better allocation of resources and more targeted marketing and sales efforts. - Jeremy outlines how buying groups allow both marketing and sales to work together by using personalized tactics for different stakeholders, creating a seamless activation process. - By analyzing historical data, companies can identify key personas involved in successful deals and tailor their outreach to align with the needs of similar stakeholders in the future. - Jeremy highlights the importance of tools like Demandbase, LeanData, Marketo, and custom-built applications for implementing and scaling buying group strategies effectively. - Jeremy predicts that buying group adoption will accelerate, and technology will evolve to better support this motion, offering enhanced tools for targeting and collaboration. - The successful adoption of buying groups requires an iterative approach that starts with manual processes, develops clear workflows, and eventually integrates technology to scale. Quotes On Identifying Buying Groups: “Being able to see who's in a buying group and understanding their personas is the first step to transforming your account-based strategy.” On Optimizing Resources Based on Signals: “Don't spend money where you see low or no engagement. When you see a high signal account, throw everything, including the kitchen sink, at it.” Communities: - Buying group members (LinkedIn community):  A community dedicated to discussions and insights on buying group models in B2B marketing. He recommends this group for professionals seeking to deepen their understanding of buying groups and to engage with industry experts.

    Ep. 506 | Crafting a Winning GTM Strategy from the Ground Up

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2024 33:24


    Episode Summary In this Onbase episode, Justine Davis, Head of Marketing at Postman, shares her journey from hospitality marketing to leading high-performing teams in tech, offering insights on building go-to-market (GTM) strategies. She emphasizes the importance of aligning sales, marketing, and product teams through data-driven decisions, internal collaboration, and empathy for organizational change. Justine discusses adapting to shifts in marketing attribution, such as the decline of third-party cookies and highlights tools like Salesforce, Looker, and SparkToro as essential for staying competitive. She also underscores the value of curiosity, leadership, and strategic planning in navigating future challenges, offering practical advice for scalable success in B2B marketing. About the guest Justine Davis is Head of Marketing at API platform Postman. She previously served as the Head of Marketing for Atlassian's Agile and DevOps suite of products. With over 9 years of experience working with DevOps teams and tools, Justine is passionate about solving the needs of customers. Outside of work Justine is a mom, avid reader, and loves to close the move goal rings in sunny Scottsdale, AZ on her Apple Watch. Connect with Justine Davis Key takeaways - Conduct a listening tour to understand team dynamics, customer needs, and current successes to shape a data-driven strategy. - Align with sales, product, and data teams by addressing their priorities and showing how the strategy supports shared goals. - Transition to server-side tracking for accurate attribution and compliance with evolving privacy regulations like GDPR. - Hire experienced professionals for new functions to quickly establish processes and build team capability. - Focus on professional domain sign-ups for PLG and pipeline velocity for enterprise strategies to track success. - Foster curiosity and cross-functional collaboration to drive innovation and align teams with shared objectives. Quotes "Trust is built by aligning our goals with those of sales, product, and data teams, fostering a collaborative environment where strategies support shared objectives." Recommended Resource Podcast: - All-In Podcast: A resource for staying updated on general tech trends.macroeconomic trends, industry developments, and insights into the future of AI. - Lenny's Podcast: A go-to for practical and actionable advice on product management, growth, and startups. - Remarkable Marketing Podcast: Focused on effective marketing strategies and trends. - Prof G Podcast: A great choice for insights into tech, marketing, and business strategies Connect with Justine Davis⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠| ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on LinkedIn ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠| ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website

    Ep. 505 | AI-Driven Demand Gen: Predictive Analytics and Zero-Party Data Unlocked

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 3, 2024 27:23


    Episode Summary In this episode of OnBase, host Paul Gibson talks with AI growth expert Clemens Deimann about how AI transforms demand generation. Clemens highlights AI's role in enhancing marketing through predictive analytics, audience segmentation, campaign optimization, and real-time simulations. He also shares strategies for overcoming AI adoption challenges and emphasizes using AI to complement human intuition. This conversation offers practical advice and recommendations for leveraging AI in marketing. About the guest Clemens Deimann is a recognized leader and innovator in Demand Generation, with expertise in integrating AI into marketing strategies. His career journey is marked by a deep commitment to optimizing and scaling Demand Generation processes, which he has sharpened through pivotal roles at leading global companies like Google and LinkedIn. Now at Algomarketing, Clemens is leveraging his extensive experience to drive the future of Demand Generation, ensuring that companies can navigate and thrive in the rapidly evolving digital landscape. Connect with Clemens Key takeaways - AI in Marketing: AI enhances human intuition by providing data-driven insights, enabling better decision-making in demand generation and closing pipeline gaps efficiently. - Key AI Levers: Marketers can use AI to dynamically segment audiences, refine value propositions for personalized messaging, and optimize campaign channels and timing. - Real-Time Optimization: AI-powered simulations allow marketers to predict and tweak campaign performance before execution, reducing trial-and-error cycles. - Overcoming Challenges: Adoption barriers like use case identification and cost concerns can be addressed through rapid prototyping to test AI solutions effectively. - Zero-Party Data: Allowing users to set communication preferences builds trust, supports hyper-personalization, and aligns with privacy-conscious trends. - AI as a Partner: AI complements human roles by acting as a productivity-enhancing tool rather than replacing marketers or sales professionals. Quotes On AI-Driven Campaign Optimization: "AI enables real-time campaign optimization, allowing marketers to tweak audience targeting, messaging, and channels before execution." On Zero-Party Data: "Allowing users to set communication preferences builds trust and supports hyper-personalization, aligning with privacy-conscious trends." Podcast: All-In Podcast: Clemens suggests this podcast for its comprehensive coverage of macroeconomic trends, industry developments, and insights into the future of AI. ⁠Connect with Clemens⁠ ⁠| ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on LinkedIn ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠| ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website

    Ep. 504 | Redefining ABM as a Go-To-Market Game Changer

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 26, 2024 27:22


    Episode Summary In this OnBase episode, Chris Moody talks with Tyler Pleiss, Associate Director of Growth Marketing at Movable Ink, about transforming Account-Based Marketing (ABM) from a tactical tool into a strategic go-to-market approach. Tyler shares insights on aligning ABM with enterprise goals, fostering cross-functional collaboration, and leveraging AI for efficiency. He emphasizes the importance of targeted personalization, strategic account prioritization, and focusing on measurable outcomes to drive impactful results. About the guest Tyler Pleiss is a seasoned marketing professional with extensive experience in account-based marketing (ABM) and growth marketing strategies for B2B organizations. Currently serving as Associate Director of Growth Marketing at Movable Ink and a member of the Executive Council at ForgeX, Tyler also consults on marketing strategies at TACK and founded The Pleiss is Right, LLC., a platform dedicated to ABM insights. Previously, Tyler held key roles at Clari, where the focus was on establishing growth marketing for the Strategic Industries segment, and at Terminus, leading strategic ABM initiatives. Additional experience includes positions at Quantum Workplace, Signal 88 Security, and Courtside Marketing. Tyler earned a Master's degree in Management with a Marketing focus from Bellevue University and a Bachelor's degree in Business/Sports Management from Buena Vista University. Connect with Tyler Pleiss Key takeaways - ABM as a Strategic Lever: Reframe ABM as a strategic tool driving measurable business goals like upsells and new market expansion. - Aligning Enterprise Teams: Connect ABM strategies to top company objectives, ensuring alignment across marketing, sales, and SDRs. - Data-Driven Insights: Use analytics to target high-value accounts with the greatest revenue potential. - Cross-Functional Collaboration: Strengthen team alignment through structured communication and project management. - AI for Efficiency: Leverage AI tools to streamline account research, content creation, and campaign execution. - Human-Centric Personalization: Maintain deep personalization by focusing on fewer, high-priority accounts. - Smart Budget Decisions: Double down on marketing channels proven to contribute to pipeline and revenue. - Team Buy-In: Engage sales leaders and SDRs to embed ABM into shared revenue strategies. - Balanced Automation: Use automation for efficiency while preserving authentic, human-led interactions. - Long-Term Relationships: Build lasting connections with key accounts for sustained growth. - Iterative Improvement: Continuously refine ABM tactics using team feedback and performance data. - Targeted Personalization: Scale personalization efforts strategically without sacrificing quality or impact. Quotes On Shifting ABM to Strategy: "ABM isn't just a marketing tactic—it's a strategic framework that ties directly to enterprise goals like growth and expansion." On GTM Alignment: "Success in ABM comes when marketing, sales, and SDR teams rally around shared objectives and prioritize the right accounts together." On Data Utilization: "Data-driven insights aren't optional; they're the backbone of any effective ABM program, helping us focus on accounts that truly matter." Connect with Tyler Pleiss | ⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on LinkedIn ⁠⁠⁠⁠| ⁠⁠⁠⁠Website

    Ep. 503 | Going from Traditional Sales to a Buyer-Centric Data-Driven Model

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 21, 2024 35:10


    Episode Summary In this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody talks with Scott Clark about transforming B2B sales through a buyer-centric, data-driven approach. Drawing from his 30 years of experience in enterprise sales and marketing, Scott shares insights on aligning sales and marketing, leveraging data for efficiency, and integrating CRM and AI tools to enhance customer engagement. He emphasizes the importance of understanding buyer behavior, fostering collaboration, and adapting to digital transformation to drive growth and competitiveness. This conversation offers actionable advice for anyone navigating the evolving sales landscape. About the guest Scott Clark, Vice President of America Sales at CTG, is a 30-year industry veteran helping clients achieve digital transformation. Mr. Clark earned a bachelor's degree in Marketing from Butler University, a master's degree in Management from Harvard University, and is a National Association of Corporate Directors member. Prior to Computer Task Group, Inc. (Nasdaq: CTG), he was the VP of Sales at Ensono, a technology adviser and managed service provider. Before Ensono, he was the Vice President of Sales for the Managed Services Division at NTT Limited (NTT). Before NTT, he served as the Chief Marketing Officer at ConvergeOne. Connect with Scott Key takeaways - Shift to Buyer-Centric Sales: Organizations must adapt to buyers' preferences for self-research and personalized experiences, focusing on being consultative rather than seller-driven. - Data-Driven Strategies: Leveraging data for better forecasting, decision-making, and personalization is essential for reducing sales cycles and improving customer engagement. - Sales and Marketing Alignment: Collaboration between sales and marketing is critical to achieving consistent messaging, targeting, and driving efficiency in the customer journey. - Adopting Technology: Tools like CRMs, marketing automation platforms, and AI-driven insights are foundational for enhancing sales processes and creating competitive differentiation. - Change Management: Successfully navigating sales transformation requires leadership skills to manage mindset shifts, processes, and emotions associated with organizational change. - Focus on Growth Metrics: Understanding and optimizing conversion rates, customer lifetime value, and demand generation efficiency are vital for sustainable growth. - Importance of Data Literacy: Sales teams must be adept at interpreting and applying data insights to make informed decisions and strengthen customer relationships. Quotes On Buyer-Centric Models: "Buyers expect to be taught, to learn something, and to gain knowledge in their decision-making process—not to be told what to do." On Personalization: "Personalize it to me, align it with my organization and my role. Buyers today demand relevance at every step." Books:- The Challenger Sale by Matthew Dixon and Brent Adamson: This book explores the importance of teaching, tailoring, and taking control in sales conversations. - Building a StoryBrand by Donald Miller: It emphasizes the power of storytelling in marketing to clarify messages and engage customers. - Predictable Revenue by Aaron Ross: This guide offers insights into building scalable sales processes and generating consistent revenue. Blogs: - HubSpot Blog: A comprehensive resource covering topics in marketing, sales, and customer service. - Sales Hacker: Provides practical advice and strategies for modern sales professionals. Newsletters:The Lean Startup Newsletter: Offers insights into agile methodologies and innovative business strategies. ⁠Connect with Scott⁠ ⁠| ⁠⁠⁠Follow us on LinkedIn ⁠⁠⁠| ⁠⁠⁠Website

    Ep. 502 | Why Brand is Your Biggest Revenue Driver

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 19, 2024 27:27


    Episode Summary In this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with marketing powerhouse Elizabeth Hague to explore the pivotal role of brand building in driving responsible growth and long-term revenue success. Drawing from her 15 years of experience, Elizabeth shares actionable insights on breaking down silos, aligning the brand with demand, and fostering customer obsession to create unified, revenue-driven strategies. From navigating B2B and B2C landscapes to leveraging AI for efficiency, she offers bold perspectives on category leadership, measurable brand success, and overcoming skepticism from boards and CFOs. Tune in to learn how a strong brand foundation can transform your business for 2025 and beyond. About the guest Elizabeth Hague is a seasoned marketing executive with 15 years of experience scaling brands and driving revenue growth. She has shaped a $2.3B valuation brand, scaled two companies to acquisition, and advised over 115 businesses. Recognized as one of Georgia's "Most Remarkable Women" for her mentorship of female entrepreneurs, Elizabeth specializes in aligning brand, demand, and product strategies for pre-IPO companies. With a focus on customer obsession and measurable impact, she empowers teams to deliver full-funnel marketing success and long-term growth. Connect with Elizabeth Key takeaways - Brand as a Revenue Driver: Elizabeth emphasizes that brand building is critical for responsible growth and long-term success, bridging the gap between customer trust and measurable revenue outcomes. - Unified Marketing Approach: Breaking down silos between brand, demand, and product teams is essential for a cohesive strategy that drives category leadership and sustainable growth. - Customer Obsession Wins: A customer-first approach fuels brand trust, repeat business, and long-term revenue, making customer success a key component of marketing strategies. - A brand is Measurable: Contrary to popular belief, brand initiatives can and should be tied to measurable outcomes, such as pipeline influence, customer retention, and category leadership metrics. - Leadership in Uncertainty: In tough economic times, aligning brand strategy with revenue goals helps companies navigate challenges and emerge stronger. - Leveraging AI in Marketing: Elizabeth advocates for using AI to enhance efficiency, from streamlining content creation to personalizing customer experiences, while keeping a human touch. - Advocating for Brand Investment: To address skepticism from boards or CFOs, marketers must connect brand strategy to tangible business outcomes, such as improved onboarding, NPS scores, and trust-building initiatives. - Adapting Across B2B and B2C: Drawing from her experience in both spaces, Elizabeth underscores the importance of tailoring brand strategies to industry-specific needs while focusing on customer value. Quotes On Brand and Revenue Alignment: "Brand isn't just about aesthetics; it's a strategic asset that, when aligned with revenue goals, drives sustainable growth." On Customer-Centric Strategies: "Putting the customer at the heart of your brand strategy transforms them into advocates, fueling long-term success." Recommended Resource Books - "Stealing the Corner Office": A practical and concise book providing insights on navigating workplace politics and leadership.- “Revenue Architecture”: Elizabeth mentioned this new book, focusing on the bow-tie revenue model and aligning revenue leaders across marketing and sales. ⁠Connect with Elizabeth⁠ | ⁠⁠Follow us on LinkedIn ⁠⁠| ⁠⁠Website

    Ep. 501 | How AI-Based Detection is Revolutionizing Security

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2024 22:12


    Episode Summary In this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody talks with Anh Huynh about the evolving role of AI in cybersecurity, especially in email and collaboration systems. Anh shares his journey from early IT setups to today's advanced AI-based security measures, highlighting the shift from heuristics-based to AI-driven threat detection to combat sophisticated business email compromises (BEC). Anh explains how collaboration, communication, and integrating AI across security infrastructures are crucial in staying ahead of cyber threats. They also discuss the importance of emotional intelligence, balancing hybrid work environments, and tools that enhance security and quality of life, especially for remote work. About the guest Anh Huynh is the Director of Messaging Engineering and Head of Security Services at Applied Materials, where he has led teams in securing critical communication infrastructure for nearly five years. In this role, Anh focuses on cybersecurity measures within messaging and collaboration spaces, implementing advanced AI/ML detection processes, and enforcing security protocols like SPF, DMARC, and DKIM to address emerging cyber threats. He also oversees supply chain cybersecurity initiatives, IP protection, and data loss prevention, integrating solutions across platforms like Outlook, Exchange, and Office 365. With over 18 years of experience in global messaging, Anh combines technical expertise with a strategic approach to managing cybersecurity and team development, making him a valuable voice on the role of AI and layered security in modern enterprises.Anh also helps businesses enhance their cybersecurity strategy through his firm, ADH Consulting.Connect with Anh: Phone: 831-277-3525 | Threads: @anhdhuynh75 | Email: anhdhuynh@gmail.com | LinkedIn Key takeaways - AI in Cybersecurity: AI is crucial for detecting sophisticated threats like business email compromises, surpassing traditional methods. - Collaboration is Key: Effective cybersecurity needs strong collaboration and shared intelligence across teams. - Hybrid Work Balance: A balanced mix of in-office and remote work supports productivity and security adaptability. - Layered Security: A multi-layered defense, combining traditional and AI methods, enhances threat detection. - Actionable Insights: AI should provide clear, actionable insights to reduce manual work and improve security. - Emotional Intelligence: Leaders should cultivate emotional intelligence to manage hybrid teams better. - Tech and IoT Tools: Familiarity with various tech ecosystems and using IoT tools can improve personal and professional security. Quotes "The old process of heuristics-based security does not work today in the real world." -Anh HuynhRecommended Resource BooksEmotional Intelligence by Daniel Goleman: It explores how understanding and managing emotions can enhance personal and professional relationships ⁠⁠Connect with Any Huynh | ⁠Follow us on LinkedIn ⁠| ⁠Website

    Ep. 500 | The Next Frontier in Account-Based GTM

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 7, 2024 42:29


    Episode Summary In this Special episode celebrating the release of our 500th episode, OnBase welcomes Demandbase CEO Gabe Rogol to discuss the company's recent rebrand and the future of account-based GTM strategies. Gabe shares the vision behind the transformation, emphasizing Demandbase's commitment to solving modern B2B challenges through enhanced integration, transparency, and AI-driven automation. He explains how these changes aim to better align marketing and sales efforts for long-term account success. Gabe also dives into the next phase of account-based strategies, highlighting new insights, data strategies, and automation that will drive alignment and efficiency across teams, shaping Demandbase's path forward. About the guest As the Chief Executive Officer of Demandbase, I'm responsible for fulfilling the company's mission of transforming how B2B companies go-to-market. Since joining Demandbase in 2012, I've been committed to setting the product and corporate strategy for the company. Throughout my two-plus decade career, I've held various leadership positions, including managing world-class customer service and sales teams at IDG and other leading publishers. I received my BA in Comparative Literature and Russian Language and Literature from Brown University. Connect with Gabe Rogol Key takeaways - Purposeful Rebranding: Demandbase's rebrand isn't just cosmetic—it reflects a strategic shift to address evolving B2B needs. Gabe highlights the importance of aligning brand, product, and go-to-market strategy to better meet customer challenges. - Account-based GTM as a Strategic Approach: Gabe emphasizes that account-based go-to-market strategies should be treated as a C-suite initiative rather than a marketing tactic. This shift requires cross-functional alignment, especially between marketing and sales, to maximize account lifetime value. - Enhanced Data Strategy: Successful account-based approaches rely on robust data strategies. Gabe discusses how integrating various data sets—like intent, engagement, and firmographics—is essential to provide actionable insights and ensure alignment. - The Role of AI and Automation: AI-driven automation is key to the future of account-based strategies, reducing manual tasks and delivering actionable insights on audience targeting, messaging, and engagement across platforms, creating a more efficient and effective go-to-market approach. - Focus on High-Value Accounts: Demandbase's approach prioritizes identifying and aligning resources with accounts that offer the greatest potential lifetime value, shifting focus from broad lead generation to targeted engagement with the right customers. Quotes On Rebranding: “Rebranding isn't just a new look; it's a whole-company initiative. It's about understanding where our market is going and clarifying what we want to represent in this new era for Demandbase and the account-based go-to-market category.” On Strategic Alignment: “An account-based approach should be a C-level strategic initiative—not just a marketing tactic. Aligning sales, marketing, and operations around high-value accounts is essential for long-term success.” On Data and Intent: “Intent data is powerful, but it's just one piece of the puzzle. Real success comes from layering intent with technographic, firmographic, and engagement data to create a holistic, actionable view of target accounts.” On the Future of Account-Based Marketing: “We're entering a new phase focused on automation and insights. By delivering audience, message, and action insights across platforms, we're setting the stage for a more efficient and impactful go-to-market strategy.” On AI's Role: “AI has the potential to fulfill the true promise of account-based marketing by automating complex processes and delivering the insights teams need to focus on what really matters: driving value for high-impact accounts.” ⁠Connect with Gabe Rogol⁠ | Follow us on LinkedIn | Website

    Ep. 499 | Achieving Cross-Functional Alignment for Revenue Growth

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2024 28:58


    Episode Summary In this episode of OnBase, Kyle Lacy discusses strategies for achieving cross-functional alignment between sales, marketing, and other teams. He identifies the main B2B marketing challenge as aligning these groups around common metrics and goals, emphasizing the need for documented processes and a shared revenue model. Kyle stresses the importance of marketing demonstrating its contribution to sales outcomes, not just brand-building. He also shares insights on leveraging AI tools while cautioning against replacing human sales roles. Overall, Kyle provides practical advice for B2B marketers seeking to improve cross-functional alignment and drive business growth. About the guest Kyle has spent the last 17 years building, scaling, failing, and winning in high-growth software. He's currently serving the Jellyfish team as their CMO, and before joining the Jellyfish “bloom,” he had the pleasure of building a company called Lessonly. He has also been fortunate to lead teams at Seismic, OpenView, Salesforce, and ExactTarget. But most importantly, he is the father to two wonderful boys, an energetic dog, and one too many books on World War II. Connect with Kyle Lacy Key takeaways - Cross-functional alignment: Success in sales and marketing hinges on aligning around shared performance metrics e.g., pipeline, revenue) and fostering collaboration across teams. - Focus on key numbers: Misalignment often occurs when sales and marketing teams aren't tracking the same metrics. Agreement on crucial numbers is vital for achieving alignment. - Sales and marketing collaboration: Understanding the sales model, including pipeline coverage and quota attainment, is critical for marketers to contribute effectively to revenue. - Importance of brand: While brand building is essential, it must always tie back to measurable business results like pipeline and bookings. - AI in marketing: AI is useful as an assistant for research, content creation, and data analysis, but it's not yet capable of fully replacing human tasks, especially in prospecting. - Engaging content: Effective case studies and white papers should focus on clear ROI data rather than just promotional content, making them more engaging and useful for prospects. - Documentation and process: Having a well-documented process and alignment on definitions like MQLs) helps prevent confusion and misalignment between teams. - Marketing's goal: The ultimate purpose of marketing is to help sales close deals, and success is determined by contributions to pipeline and quota. Quotes "Nobody cares about your brand campaign if your sales team hits 40% quota attainment." "If you're not aligned with the sales leader and not looking at the same numbers, eventually it's going to break." Recommended Resource Books "Elon Musk" by Walter Isaacson: Kyle recommends this biography for its insights into the mindset of innovators with extreme urgency and ambition. Newsletters Ultra Successful by Dr. Julie Gurner: A paid newsletter Kyle highly recommends. He praises Dr. Gurner for her brilliant insights, noting that it's one of the few newsletters he subscribes to. ⁠Connect with Kyle Lacy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on LinkedIn ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ |⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website

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