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JH Scherck is a growth consultant known for his expertise in developing effective content strategies for SaaS companies. He previously worked for companies like WP Engine and Docsend before striking out on his own with his SEO and content strategy agency, Growth Plays. JH is a wealth of knowledge about B2B marketing strategies, audience development, and SEO. Check out the full podcast to learn more about: (00:00) Introduction (01:47) Early career mistakes (11:34) Why targeting zero-volume keywords makes zero sense (15:54) How to market a product with no search demand (20:08) Owned vs earned media (26:46) Brand vs personal brand for social media (37:25) What is a community and how do you build one? (42:58) Why should you attend industry events? (51:07) Facilitating connections at events (55:39) When is marketing attribution useful? (01:11:31) Why AI will encourage uniqueness in marketing Where to find JH: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jhtscherck/ X: https://x.com/JHTScherck Website: https://growthplays.com/ Where to find Tim: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timsoulo/ X: https://x.com/timsoulo Website: https://www.timsoulo.com/ Referenced: Docsend: https://www.docsend.com/ WP Engine: https://wpengine.com/ Salesforce: Marc Benioff: https://x.com/benioff Drift: https://www.drift.com/ Dave Gerhardt: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davegerhardt/ Alex Poulos: https://www.linkedin.com/in/poulos/ MozCon: https://moz.com/mozcon Rand Fishkin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/randfishkin/ Sparktoro article (Provable Marketing Attribution Is a Boondoggle): https://sparktoro.com/blog/provable-marketing-attribution-is-a-boondoggle-trust-your-gut-instead/ Orbit: https://orbit.love/ Orbit model of community: https://orbit.love/model Olivier Pomel (CEO of DataDog): https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivierpomel/ Mattermark: https://mattermark.com/ Danielle Morill: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniellemorrill/ Patrick Stox: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickstox/ https://x.com/patrickstox Joshua Hardwick: https://x.com/JoshuaCHardwick Ryan Law: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thinkingslow/ https://x.com/thinking_slow Jason Cohen (WP Engine): https://x.com/asmartbear Ross Hudgens: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosshudgens/ Wil Reynolds: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wilreynolds/ Hubspot: https://www.hubspot.com/ PubCon: https://www.pubcon.com/ Dmitry Gerasymenko: https://x.com/botsbreeder

Episode 202 contains the Digital Marketing News and Updates from the week of Mar 4-8, 2024.1. IndexNow Insights & Top SEO Insights Report - In an announcement at PubCon and then shared on the Bing blog by Fabrice Canel, Principal Product Manager at Microsoft Bing, Bing Webmaster Tools has introduced new insights and reports aimed at enhancing site performance across Bing and general search engines. The new IndexNow Insights report, now offers more than just a glimpse into URLs submitted through IndexNow; it provides:Learn about issues with crawled URLs and the status of your submitted URLs.Receive detailed reports on the number of URLs submitted, crawled, and indexed.Learn about your latest 1000 submitted URLs, including their index status, first indexed date, and whether they were submitted late.Get insights into the source of your URL submissions, whether through Cloudflare, WordPress, manual submission, or other means.With the "Important URLs Missing" tab, find out which newly discovered links are getting clicked but were not recently visible in IndexNow, helping you to better optimize your content and identify any technical issues.Get detailed information on individual errors, including content quality, robots disallowed, not crawled, indexed, and deadlinks. View a list of problematic URLs and steps to fix them.Drill-down for further details on non-indexed URLs, sample URLs, submission times, and mitigation steps to getting URLs indexed.Export indexing trends for further analysis or reporting.With IndexNow reaching 2.5 billion URLs submitted—up from 1.2 billion six months ago—and accounting for 17% of new URLs clicked in web search results, as stated by Canel, the importance of adopting this protocol cannot be overstated. 2. YouTube's Algorithm Insights for Creators - In a recent conversation on the Creator Insider channel, Renee Richie, a creator liaison, delves into the intricacies of YouTube's algorithm with Todd, who leads the Growth and Discovery team at YouTube. The discussion focuses on clarifying common misconceptions creators have about the algorithm and offers valuable insights into optimizing content for better visibility and engagement.The algorithm, contrary to popular belief, evaluates videos on an individual basis rather than assessing the overall performance of a channel. This approach ensures that a single off-topic viral video or a poorly received video does not adversely affect the channel's standing with the algorithm. Todd emphasizes the importance of aligning content with audience interests to maintain and enhance video performance.One of the most enlightening points made during the discussion is the concept that YouTube does not push videos to viewers; instead, it pulls videos based on viewer preferences. This viewer-centric approach means that the algorithm is activated when a user visits YouTube, making recommendations based on the user's history, device, and other contextual factors. Such insights underscore the importance for creators to focus on creating content that resonates with their audience, rather than trying to game the system.Another key takeaway is the algorithm's persistent support for videos, regardless of their immediate performance. Todd reassures creators that a video's success is not confined to its initial launch period. YouTube continues to recommend videos over time, adapting to shifts in viewer interests and trends. This perspective encourages creators to remain patient and not to disregard videos that do not perform well initially.The conversation also touches on the dynamics of content strategy, highlighting the necessity for creators to adapt to changing viewer preferences, such as the rising popularity of short-form content. Recognizing and responding to these shifts, and understanding the competitive landscape, can significantly influence a creator's success on the platform.Creators are advised to analyze their content's performance, especially how it's received by subscribers, to identify areas for improvement. This process can help pinpoint issues related to content packaging or delivery that might affect viewer engagement.In summary, the discussion between Renee and Todd sheds light on the operational principles of YouTube's algorithm, debunking myths and providing creators with a clearer path to optimizing their content strategy. Understanding that the algorithm favors content that meets viewer demands and preferences can empower creators to produce more engaging and successful videos.3. Local Services Ads Verification to Combat Spam - On March 4, 2024, Google updated the verification process for Local Services Ads (LSAs), aimed at enhancing security and trustworthiness among users and advertisers. This update, first rolling out in smaller U.S. states and progressively expanding to larger ones throughout the year, introduces a stringent verification procedure that includes identity checks alongside the existing license verifications for professionals featured in LSAs, such as lawyers.The revised verification process is Google's response to the growing concern over spam and fraudulent activities within the LSA program. By enforcing identity verification, Google intends to safeguard consumers from impersonators posing as licensed professionals. This move ensures that only verified business owners or senior partners, along with their affiliated professionals, are eligible to appear in LSAs, thereby enhancing the integrity of the ads shown to users.Affected advertisers are notified via email, with instructions on completing the verification process through Google's partner, Evident. Failure to comply within a specified timeframe results in the removal of the ads from search results, impacting the visibility and potential reach of the business. This initiative reflects Google's commitment to improving the LSA ecosystem, protecting both consumers and legitimate advertisers from the adverse effects of deceptive practices.4. "Solutions": Google Ads' Latest Innovation to Streamline Ad Management - Google Ads has announced "Solutions." This new tool is designed to simplify and automate the management of Google Ads accounts, offering a seamless experience for advertisers. Accessible for free under the "Tools" section in Google Ads, Solutions empowers users with the ability to generate comprehensive reports, automate basic management tasks, and much more, all tailored to enhance campaign performance relative to business goals. Here is what you can do with it:Filter your data by campaign, ad group, keyword, or other dimensionsSet flexible budgetsManage negative keyword lists throughout your accountSort your data by any metricExport your reports to a variety of formats, including CSV and XLSXSolutions help you to create automated and customized workflows without making changes to the code. Solutions are accessible for all advertisers and don't require technical skills or coding knowledge. Here are the types of solutions:Account summary: Generates a report of the performance for a Google Ads accountAd performance: Generates a Google Spreadsheet with distribution charts showing an ad's performanceAccount anomaly detector: Sends out an email when an account's performance stats deviate significantly

Join Nate Matherson as he sits down with Ann Smarty for the thirty-second episode of the Optimize podcast. Ann is an SEO expert with industry experience since 2005 and is the founder of Smarty Marketing, a client-first boutique SEO agency based in New York. She was the former editor-in-chief of Search Engine Journal, a frequent contributor to prominent search and social blogs like Small Business Trends and Mashable, and a speaker at Pubcon and other digital marketing events. In our episode today, Ann and I discuss organic search and AI predictions for 2024, her recent report, The State of The Link Building Industry 2023, helpful content, algorithm updates, and more! During the episode, Ann shares her experience with Google's algorithm evolution over the years and how user experience metrics signal Google that your website's content is valuable to the readers and should rank highly. In this week's deep dive, Ann shares her thoughts on the challenges agencies face in acquiring clients and the problems clients face when choosing an agency. Listen to her thoughts on the importance of experience and longevity when selecting an SEO agency, why you should educate yourself before your first meeting, and how shortcuts and hype can backfire. Rounding out the episode, Ann and Nate discuss link-building strategies, topical authority, creating link bait, and reputation management. Closing out the episode is our popular lightning round of questions! For more information, please visit www.positional.com or email us at podcast@positional.com.Resources:Join Positional's Private Beta Here: www.positional.comCheck-in with Nate on LinkedIn & TwitterCheck-in with Ann on LinkedIn & Twitter & Agency WebsiteThe State of The Link Building Industry 2023 Report

Welcome to the What's Next! Podcast with Tiffani Bova. As we approach the end of the year, I'm pausing to look back and celebrate all of the wonderful guests that I had the honor of speaking to on the show. And based on your feedback, many of these guests resonated with you as well so we're giving you another chance to hear them in this series of 2023 listener- favorite episodes! This week, we're bringing back an episode with Mindy Weinstein who shares her personal philsophy and corporate experience with consumer psychology.  Mindy is the founder and CEO of Market MindShift, as well as a national speaker, trainer, and digital marketing strategist. She has worked with and trained companies of all sizes. Throughout her career, Mindy has trained such companies as Facebook, The Weather Channel, World Fuel Services, Hampton Products, Putman Media, and more. Other digital marketing agencies come to Mindy to learn the latest trends, concepts and methodologies. Mindy has been named as one of the top women in SEO and has presented at such conferences as Digital Summit, Pubcon, SMX, the SEJ Summit, and more. She is an Ask the SEO Expert columnist for SearchEngineJournal.com. Mindy has often appeared in the media, with television interviews that aired on Fox, NBC, and ABC as well as various other multimedia platforms. Mindy is the author of “The Power of Scarcity: Leveraging Urgency to Influence Customer Decisions” (McGraw Hill). She is also the host of Persuasion in Business, a podcast that dives into persuasion-related concepts and provides real-world applications for businesses. THIS EPISODE IS PERFECT FOR… anyone in consumer finance, marketing, retail, sales, or really any position where they work with others.  TODAY'S MAIN MESSAGE… consumer psychology is about understanding and listening the thoughts and perspectives of your customers, so you have to keep an eye on the digital conversations happening on social media and online platforms, but you can't forget about the direct contact modes from the sales team and customer service representatives.   WHAT I LOVE MOST… scarcity mindset is hardwired into the human mind, but we can harness our basic instincts and use this power for good to build community and make better decisions for ourselves! Running time: 30:37 Subscribe on iTunes Find Tiffani Online: Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Instagram Find Mindy Online: Website Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Mindy's Book: The Power of Scarcity

On this episode of 'The Art of Selling Online Courses'  we sat down with Tim Soulo, the Chief Marketing Officer and Product Advisor at Ahrefs, a cutting-edge SEO tool driven by big data.Tim's ground breaking data research in the realm of SEO has been recognized by numerous online publications, including Inc, TechCrunch, and VentureBeat. Renowned for his expertise, Tim has graced the stages of major industry conferences worldwide, including PubCon in Las Vegas, BrightonSEO in the UK, and the Digital Marketers Australia Conference in Melbourne. Tim's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/SaaSMarketingVlogTim's Website: https://www.timsoulo.com/Ahrefs Website: https://ahrefs.com/If you're interested in growing your online course sales and funnel optimisation contact us at https://datadrivenmarketing.co/

What if you could increase your profits and lower your frustration on Amazon simultaneously?Join us in welcoming our guest, Robyn Johnson, the visionary CEO, and founder of Marketplace Blueprint. Robyn's recent accomplishments are nothing short of remarkable. With over 13 years of unparalleled experience in the Amazon realm, she's been at the forefront of shaping e-commerce success stories. Robyn's agency, Marketplace Blueprint, has achieved Amazon Advertising Partner status, a testament to her agency's excellence in navigating the Amazon landscape. Her expertise has also earned her coveted speaking opportunities at prestigious events like Prosper, Retail Global, Pubcon, and the Digital Summit Series.In this episode, Robyn Johnson, the founder and CEO of Marketplace Blueprint shares valuable insights on How Better Creative Can Give Your Products an Edge on and Off Amazon. Don't miss out on this eye-opening conversation!

Episode 179 contains the important Digital Marketing News and Updates from the week of Sep 18-22, 2023.1. YouTube's New AI-Powered Tools! - YouTube is stepping up its game with a slew of innovative creator tools, including groundbreaking generative AI features. Unveiled at the "Made On" showcase event, the platform introduced the "Dream Screen" generative AI tool, allowing creators to integrate AI-generated video and image backgrounds into their YouTube Shorts. This tool aligns YouTube with the latest creative trends, matching efforts by platforms like Snapchat, TikTok, and Instagram.Additionally, YouTube is launching "YouTube Create," a free video editing app reminiscent of TikTok's CapCut. This app offers a suite of editing tools, including audio cleanup, auto captions in multiple languages, filters, transitions, and direct publishing options. Initially tested in India and Singapore, it's now expanding to more regions and is currently available for Android users.To further fuel creativity, YouTube is introducing an AI ideas generator. By inputting a topic, creators receive content suggestions and even a downloadable content outline. While this tool offers inspiration, it's essential to use it as a guide rather than a strict blueprint to maintain originality.Other notable features include an automatic dubbing tool for content translation and an assistive search in creator music. These tools aim to simplify the content creation process, allowing creators to focus on their unique vision. 2. Google's New Report To Spot Checkout Issues on

Auf der Pubcon sagte Gary Illyes von Google, Links gehören schon länger nicht mehr zu den drei wichtigsten Rankingfaktoren. Dann stellt sich aber die Frage: Welche Rankingfaktoren sind die wichtigsten für Google? Verwirrung herrscht außerdem um die Frage, ob Klicks nun doch ein Rankingfaktor für Google sind, obwohl Google das bisher immer abgestritten hat. Die Aussage eines Ex-Googlers vor einem amerikanischen Gericht deutet jetzt darauf hin, dass Google Klicks sehr wohl für die Suche verwendet - in welcher Weise, ist jedoch weiter unklar. Im Zusammenhang mit dem laufenden Helpful Content Update hatte Google darauf hingewiesen, dass Inhalte schlechter Qualität von Drittanbietern auf Subdomains oder in Unterverzeichnissen der Gesamtbewertung einer Website schaden können. Allerdings ist dies noch nicht Bestandteil des aktuellen Updates. In den Bing Webmaster Tools werden jetzt zwar auch Daten aus dem KI-Chat angezeigt, allerdings lassen sich die Daten nicht filtern und separat auslesen. Die meisten Sorgen wegen Duplicate Content stammen laut John Müller von Google von SEOs. Bei Duplicate Content ist es wichtig zu differenzieren.

Today's guest is a former engineer at Yahoo who understands search engines second to none. We talk about all the ways to run an agency wrong, hoping to teach you how to be successful and do it right. He founded BlitzMetrics, a digital marketing company that provides training and mentorship for aspiring entrepreneurs across the globe. On a mission to create a million jobs internationally, please welcome Dennis Yu. Dennis Yu, it's a pleasure. Welcome to the Learning from Others Show. How you doing, man? Good, Damon, and it's awesome hanging out with you again. I wish it was in person like we were driving race cars in Vegas. I. That was fun. You know, we got a couple stories we could probably hit. Um, you and I have engaged on mostly Facebook over the years and kinda got a little friendship going on and, um, yeah, I, I flew out and I, every time I fly out somewhere I try and kinda keep track of who's where and, um, I. And meet up with somebody and establish a relationship a little bit better. So I appreciate the opportunity of you being willing to go hang out. And we did, we went and did a limo in race cars and um, I mean, you live in Vegas, but we, we did the tourist a little bit of the touristy thing. Yeah. Yeah. And, and thanks for taking the time. That was such an honor. And you know, you're one of the few ss e o people out there. I know this is being recorded. You're one of the few ss, e o people out there that is legit and drives results. And I am not being compensated to say this. But I've been sharing this and I'm, I know people that are watching this and have seen my Facebook posts. They're coming to you. Yeah, no, I appreciate that. It's, um, we'll probably talk 'cause you're legit about that today, you know? Yeah. Not, not about me, but about the industry. And, um, for, for me, that's been, uh, Good and bad to throw rocks at my own industry. Right? Like, it's unfortunate that that's such a valuable sales proposition to distinguish yourself as actually doing your job. But, but it is. So why don't we, why don't we start there? So, um, actually before we get into it, um, let's, let's have you talk about yourself the most, uh, enjoyable, comfortable part of a podcast. Um, I, I actually like how you put it on the intake form when, uh, so I ask the guests, you know, what's your elevator pitch that we can use? And Dennis just puts Google me. If we're talking about s e o and, and you don't have a knowledge panel show up when I Google you, you're a fat weight loss coach. Fat weight loss goes, where's, where's the analogy of a fat weight loss coach? Oh, fat, okay. Overweight weight, weight loss coach. That's overweight. Got it. Yeah. Yeah. So Dennis, um, has been in marketing for how, how long have you been in marketing? 30 years. Yeah, how'd you get into it? And I was one of the original people, one of the first people at Yahoo. So I built the internal analytics at Yahoo. So I'm a search engine engineer, so I'm not an S E o. I am the person who's trying to protect the results from the SS e o people trying to trick us. Yeah. Have you got jaded over the years knowing like how this works and being able to see the manipulation that's going on when it's not done for the right audience and the right users? Do you think that weight loss scams will ever go away? Every year there's a new scam, right? And people fall for it. 'cause they're just like, how do you not know that? It's a scam? Hey, if I take this one pill, you're gonna lose 30 pounds in 12 days. Like it's a scam, right? Mm-hmm. So the salespeople are always inventing new techniques. And I remember, this is like back in my day, we used to walk uphill both ways. I built websites by hand using Microsoft Front page. It was engineers that were building websites, people like us that actually physically knew how to do the thing. It was before the marketing people and all that came in back then. You remember it was called web mastering. Mm-hmm. Before it became digital marketing and social media and influencer and all these other words that are now really just buzz words, new words for the same thing. Mm-hmm. Right. And now I'm, I'm gonna blame the internet money Bross. Yeah. And the motivational speakers for now, all of them are ai. Experts and crypto experts and chat G P T experts and they're SS e o experts too. So all these people have come in in the last few years seeing easy money and now they're gonna start selling S E o. I was a Josh Nelson seven figure agency conference and Josh Nelson's amazing. I love the guy. They're people that come into that program 'cause they think it's easy money. And in the program Josh teaches you should sell s e o, but he also says you should also deliver s e o too. You should also understand what it is. Some agency owners, the guilty will be unnamed, are selling ss e o and they don't even know what it is, but they know that people want it and they need it. So they sell it for $2,000 a month and they're making all this money. This one company that I'm probably gonna release a full investigation later today is making three. Well, they're, they were making last month, $320,000 a month off of 150 clients that are paying for s e o and Facebook ads and websites and things like that. It is a scam. There's no way to defend it. It's a scam, but it's a sales guy running it. He has no operations, he has no marketing. He's a sales guy and some of them even white label their stuff out. So they have no idea what it is and someone else is doing it. They, the client doesn't know anymore. I mean, you know, they, but they're selling it 'cause they're salespeople. There's too many salespeople in the s e O space. Mm-hmm. We need more mechanics, not people in the car dealership wearing a tie. Slick hair saying all these things about the car. We need more mechanics that actually have grease on their fingers, like you and me. Yeah. I mean, I often get asked what, um, what should I know as I shop s e o and, and I think that why people are so attracted to, to you know, you and your transparency is because it establishes trust when you're willing to go, Hey, you know, One example, s e o takes time, but here's why. And then you explain it. Or, hey, not only here are the advantages of s e o, but here are the disadvantages because what they're getting pitched to you. You nailed it with the sales bros and not enough actual people doing the work is the majority of the time. These people that. Sounds smooth, are not the people that are actually doing any of the work. So they're gonna tell you whatever they think that you want to hear. And so when, when I get asked, you know, what should I be, be looking out for? And I'd be curious, some of the things that are top of your mind is, is my first thing is transparency. Like, they should be able to communicate. You don't need to know, you know, the, the full granular details of, of everything that's going on, but you should be able to clearly communicate, you know, here's. The intent behind why we're gonna focus on this thing in content, not just, we're gonna write stuff, you know? Mm-hmm. And what's, how, how are we gonna measure progress? Right. And how long is this gonna take and why? Yeah. But the majority of the people that are out there are just like, oh yeah, no, we'll get to it. You know, we'll get there, you'll see. And it's just like these vague responses, and I think that's become a thing of, of. Beyond just ss e o, but you and I are, are in that space more so just marketing in general is these constant sales bros of it's yell loud or talk louder or be flashier. Mm-hmm. And the emotions overtake the sales process. And then it doesn't matter, like right before we hit record, I was telling you about somebody that we're working with and they're killing it and the data shows they're killing it. But a, a sales bro got in their ear about, Hey, you need to be louder and flashier, and they're tearing it all down. Mm-hmm. Yeah. The sales bross are focused on collecting the money. I. They'll make huge promises. They're, they don't even know whether they can hit those promises 'cause they're not operators. The fact that you are posting screenshots, of course you're masking out like the client name and the keywords and all that, but showing the increase in traffic and sales, not just ranking on more keywords. 'cause you can rank on a bunch of garbage keywords and claim victory. Yeah. We need more people doing what you're doing and actually teaching the techniques. Not that these clients wanna learn how to, you know, who wants to learn how to change a transmission or, but at least if you know that that guy who is an actual mechanic is posting videos of him as he's, you know, working on the transmission and got grease on his hands as he's working on the car. There's a lot more trust there and especially if the mechanic shows what they're doing, right? I'd love to, you know when, when you go to a car or uh, you know the dealership and something's wrong with the car, they're gonna give you an itemized list. Of the things that are broken and what, and therefore the toll and you know, maybe the dealership will still overcharge you, but at least you know what they're doing, right? Yeah. If you're buying a new car or not a new car. So Damon, let's say you're buying a, a car off of whatever, like Facebook marketplace and the guy says, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's always been in the garage the whole time and never been driven. And you see it's got 150,000 miles on it. I don't know if that's exactly true. Oh, it's, it's never been in a crash, really. I don't know. It just looks like some of these. Here don't look like they were the original parts. Are you sure? Oh yeah. It's brand new. You know, it's, it, I don't trust, I just hate to be cynical. I don't trust what other people have to say. So if you're gonna buy a car, Damon from somebody, third party, are you just gonna take what that guy says or are you gonna have a mechanic check it out real quick? Yeah. You, you're, you're doing the equivalent of an audit. Yeah. So I, you know, audits take two minutes. In two minutes we can spot all kinds of garbage. That you and I know, like buying a bunch of fake links or most commonly having done nothing. Yeah. And letting the, especially in a service-based business, letting the G M B and the reviews that are actually done by the client carry the weight and claiming credit for that. Yeah. How dare you claim credit for something the client did? Yeah. And dressing it up as, oh well, Google's algorithm changes all the time and it takes a while and it's a mystery. And I can't tell you our methods 'cause they're proprietary, can't give you access to our systems. I hope you understand. It's such a big secret. I'd have to kill you. Proprietary is one of, if the not top red flag for me, as soon as somebody says that in, in a marketing sales discussion, because we're all using the same dozen or two tools. Mm-hmm. It's just who knows how to use them most efficiently in which combination to deliver on the results. Yeah. If any that you have mapped out into SOPs, Can you imagine if you ask a mechanic, so you're fixing my transmission. What tools are you using? Oh, it's prop tools. Using wrenches are secret. Yeah, yeah, I can understand if you're like Mrs. Field's chocolate chip cookies, but even they put their recipe out there as like a, a campaign to try to, you know, what was like a gorilla campaign? 'cause they, they planted that thing to try to make it popular. But I flew back from LA yesterday to Vegas and the pilot greeted me. I always liked to just have a quick chat with the pilot if I'm the last one on the plane. And can you imagine asking the pilot, so, um, How did you learn how to fly? A 7 27? And he says, oh, it's a secret. I can't tell you. It's super proprietary. No, there's flight training manuals and all that kind of stuff out there. It's, it's public. In any field. If you're a doctor, hey, you're a heart surgeon and you're gonna do heart surgery on me, what scalpels are you using? Hell yeah. Super proprietary, the scalpel and you know, it's the scalpel that I use. It's, you know what, you could be a heart surgeon too. If you pay me $10,000 and sign up for my weekend course. I'll teach you how you can be a heart surgeon just in a weekend, because I'm also gonna give you access to my proprietary scalpels. It's the skill of who's using the scalpel. It's the, do you remember Mars Blackman and the Air Jordan campaigns? I think you're old enough to remember that. Uh, I never got in the shoes and think that, but that's No. Uh, but it, but so they had Air Jordan, you know, Michael Jordan, the most famous basketball player ever, and they were making fun. It was, the commercials back in the eighties were hilarious. Mm-hmm. That Mars Blackman, who was Spike Lee would say, it's the shoes. It's the shoes. Got the shoes, Uhhuh. You could jump as high as Michael Jordan and hit your head on the rim, right? Yep. So do you think if I switched from Adidas to Nike that I'd all of a sudden be a better basketball player, do you think If like me doing ss e o, if I just switched from my primary tool to, you know, the proprietary ones or Majestic or Hfss or SEMrush, like, do you think that would matter? No, it's all the same data. There's no proprietary, like you said. Yeah, it's, it's your skill. The other red flag for me is guarantees and, and my position on gu. Sure, they sound lovely. I get why they're attractive, uh, attractive to the consumer and attractive to sell. Um, and, and, and in some forms of marketing, maybe there's guarantees. But in s e o there, there's so many abstract variables and, and wildcard that you should be able to communicate why they're variable in a wildcard and also communicate. Why you can't offer a guarantee on it. What you can do though, is you can communicate averages and expectations. Mm-hmm. You know, you can't guarantee you're gonna be on page one in 10 months, but you could say on average it's 12 months or whatever, give or take. You can talk about the home runs that took four months. But to me it's a huge red flag. It it's a sales guy. Anytime I hear somebody saying there's a guarantee. As you talked earlier, it's the guy doing the sales and not the person actually doing the fulfillment and the guarantee in our space, what, what you and I are doing, it's competitive SS e o. So for us to move from position five to position one, that means we have to get ahead of those other four guys. So we, we can't, we. Guarantee what those other four people are doing. Yeah, we can, we can guarantee our effort level, we can guarantee higher r o i because we can focus where there's less competition or where there's more bang for the buck by going, by changing our strategy. Yeah. But we can't guarantee number one on Google for city name, you know, plumbing or whatever it is. Real estate city name. Yeah. Well, let's talk to, um, Let's talk to the aspiring agency owner and how they can avoid being part of our future discussions and how to approach. You do not want me writing an article about you in that I love writing articles about people, and they're either very positive, which is 99% of the time, like I love Uplifting You, Damon. And then there's the 1% of the people that are outright scamming 'cause A, they're not delivering, and B, they know it. There's a lot of people that are unintentionally ignorant. And this is the advice that we're giving agency owners right now. You wanna take care of your clients. You recognize there's a lot of stuff that you'll never know as much as Damon Burton, but there's certain things you do need to know. You've gotta learn the basic tools to see that rankings turn into traffic. That turn into sales. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And if you just generate, so there's one personal injury client that they were paying this guy. His name sounds like a whiskey. His first name is Jason. You can maybe figure out who it is. And he was charging this personal injury attorney $70,000 a month. And what he did was upload a dictionary to the site on how do you get a commercial truck driving licenses. So they, you know, attorneys, they want truck driving cases. 'cause those are million dollar cases versus like fender-bender ones, right? They really want the truck driving cases. So, This guy was ranking on all these, these truck driving terms, but they're all like, how do, what are the, you know, how long does it take to get a commercial truck, uh, driving license? And what is a C D L? And none of them had the intent of someone who got hit by a truck. Yeah. And this guy that was charging $70,000 a month, what he did was he was, he was creating 200 garbagey posts in a glossary every month. I told you about this one. Mm-hmm. We talked about this before. Yeah. And. The client who's wealthy and has made, you know, over a billion dollars, didn't know any better, but he suspect it's, you know, these guys are not dumb, but they don't know about s e o. They're real smart and they, like, you don't wanna try to pull the wool over. Just because they don't know about SS e o doesn't mean they're dumb. Okay. They're, they can kind of, they're busy. Yeah. They're, they're good at the thing that they do, and you're good at the thing you do, and I get that, but, So this guy Jason was claiming, look at all the look we're driving, we're ranking on another 2000 keywords. Yeah, but they're all garbage. And I looked inside the analytics and there is no more phone calls and no more cases being driven off of this s e o. All the cases from a search engine organic search standpoint, we're coming on. People searching for the client's name. This, this client is on TV, billboards. He has more billboards in Kentucky than anyone else. He's all over the place, right? So they Google his name and, and then this s e o guy was claiming credit for this guy's TV ads and billboards. So my number one thing for people that your agency owners and your, you know, you need to offer, you can't just offer Facebook ads 'cause then you have a 90 day churn. That's just unfortunate, right? Mm-hmm. You can't offer social media by itself unless you just wanna churn it out. You have to offer s e o, you have to offer some kind of P P C or whatnot to show that you can drive results. But the key is start with the results first. Yeah. Don't talk about all the s e o, whatever. Start with you need more cases, you need more clients, you need more book jobs, you need more phone calls. And that comes from people that. Come to our website because they search on these certain keywords and here's the competition on those keywords. So most of these s e o people, they use the s e O tools that you and I know that generate that auto, generate these reports and put the agency's name on them, right? Mm-hmm. Because why wouldn't, why wouldn't I wanna use these different tools that just send out reports to make it look like there's work being done? Mm-hmm. But that's not work that's being done. It's just showing rankings that go up and down. Hopefully the numbers are going up every month and if the business is doing well and they're taking care of their customers, even if you do nothing from an ss e o standpoint, those s e o numbers will go up, won't they? Yeah. So don't rely upon rankings. Rankings are nothing compared to traffic. And traffic is nothing compared to sales. 'cause even if you drive more traffic, this one personal injury attorney was, was driving an extra, I forgot the number, but two or 3000 visits a month to their website. People that were looking to become truck drivers. Yeah. And then that pollutes our remarketing audiences. 'cause we pay to remarket against people who come to the site. Right. 'cause all of those could be cases. So we're remarketing everywhere. 'cause of the pixels. Yeah. So s e o start, it sounds fundamental and it doesn't matter if you do Facebook ads or website building or email. Start with the client's goal and what that's worth and then trace it back to what you do. Yeah. Like there's one client, they're a big personal injury. Firm for some reason. We got a lot of these PIs and they're spending 1.7 million a month on Google ads. Yeah. And they're also doing SS e o. They're using Ben Fisher for L S a I love Ben. They're using Steve Wedeman for SS e o I love Steve. And there's more calls that are coming in. The firm has been growing, but they couldn't figure out where this. Cases were coming from because there's 10 different systems that have to be tied together. Hmm. And sometimes the in, in CallRail or, or RingCentral, we can automatically append where that call came from. But sometimes we have to ask 'em. And a lot of what we call digital plumbing wasn't in place 'cause, you know, multiple LSAs and a different website for P P C versus one for the main firm for different reasons. So we had to tie all this stuff together and it was only last week. Outta this firm's 15, 20 years. It's only last week that for the first time we're able to see Marketing Source. So if you're the agency, you've gotta be able to show that what you are doing goes all the way down to the bottom line where there's sales. And that means you often have to go into the call rail or into their C R M or whatnot. What percent of the time Damon are SS e o agencies going all the way down to see that there was a sale that was occurring. And or do you think that's important? I think it's important, but not, you know, most people don't, uh, almost never. It's, it's mind boggling to me when I get on, uh, a lead call and they're with an agency already, and I ask them for basic stuff. What, what are you currently targeting? What's been done today? And. I for, I'm 17 years into doing this and it still blows my mind like the first time. Every time when their reply is, I don't know what we're targeting. I'm like, okay, well what have they done to date? I don't know what we've done to date. They just send me these flashy reports every month that said they did something. It is surprisingly, the majority of the time, and I can't wrap, you know, I have such a hard time with this because even though I see it so often, I can't put myself in that position to rationalize that approach. And so it's such a, it's like a twilight zone to me because I can't, I can't relate to it whatsoever. Yeah. There's so many scams. I wrote an article like 15 years ago and I think it was something along the lines of, I mean we could Google it to find it, but you know how to, how to sell ss e o and I basically, it was a joke 'cause it was revealing the techniques and I said, you know, the best way. To win a client. 'cause these guys are all, all the sales bros are all about selling, selling, selling, right? They don't care about delivery. They just wanna sell. So I'm like, okay, you wanna sell? Here's the easiest way to sell. Before you go into that sales meeting, put up a blog post on a site that at least has a little bit of juice. Like hopefully you have a blog that has some amount of trust and ha optimize it for a long tail keyword. So let's say that this is, uh, you're talking to a. Veterinarian. So then write a blog post that ranks for Boulder, Colorado, golden Retriever, toenail clipping tips. Mm. Right. How difficult do you think that would be? Yeah, not at all. You were difficult to zero, right? Yeah. So write a blog post, make a video about it, rank for it, and then go in there. And say, yeah, you know, with S E O I even came prepared and I know you're a veterinarian. Go ahead and go into Google right now on your computer, on your phone and search Golden Retriever toenail clipping tips. Boulder, Colorado, and like, oh look, we're number one. See? Yeah. Then if that doesn't work, 'cause sometimes it doesn't work, you know, sometimes whatever, sometimes your site has no power. Then buy that on Google. Buy that keyword on Google and Geotarget just to Boulder, Colorado on golden retriever, toenail clipping tips. Exact match, right? And put a dollar a day on that campaign and say, go ahead and search. And then you could, ideally, they do a search on it and they see your ad and they see that you rank number one on that. That's fantastic. That's so funny. Yeah, because it's especially with local like you and I know with local, we're not talking about national golden retriever, toenail clipping tips. We're saying in Boulder, Colorado. How many other people are writing articles about Golden retriever toenail clipping tips? No one. Yeah, no one. So with SS e o, I think so. To be clear, I know it's easy to rag on these ss e o people 'cause it like 95% of it's scam, unfortunately. But here's the good news. You and I know that ranking for local. It's way easier 'cause you only have to beat the other people in Orange County, California that do whatever the thing is. You know, meds, liposuction, orange County and other Santa Ana and Newport Beach. Like that's, that's not competitive, but liposuction, if I like, how much effort would it be to rank on liposuction if I, you know, needed you to, to do that for some reason versus liposuction, small city name. Yeah. Oh, it could, it could be a night and day difference depending on the location. Yeah. 'cause you, you also have to take into consideration the indirect competition. And I think this is something that, um, I don't, I don't really hear a lot of other SEOs talk about. I'm sure plenty of 'em know about it, but I. What this goes into the transparency thing when you're explaining the realistic expectations to your client is you not only have to take into consideration the quantity of results that you're fighting against, but the quality of the big players that are in the way too. I mean, there's so many variables in in which you look at. These results that, um, you know, I don't know where I'm going with this, but I think it's just, at the end of the day, it's, you can't outrun your reputation. Right? And so these, these people that say sells over service, right? And, and just like you said, where it's just, just sell more is, is the solution that won't last forever. And then, and then what are you gonna do? Yeah. Reputation's everything I think. I'd be curious to see if you agree, but I believe that pro-level SS e o is indistinguishable from pr, reputation management, social media, whatever it is, because it's other people that are credible in that particular topic that are talking about you co-creating content like we're doing here. And that's showing up on reputable industry specific websites, not like random websites that happen to be DR. 73. About websites that are authoritative and rank on those keywords in that industry. So if you build those relationships, if you have that expertise and you've done a great job, then your reputation's great and your SEO's great. I don't know how, how someone could have great s e O in a competitive area and not have a great reputation as if me at Google, well, I was at Yahoo, but a lot of my people I trained went to Google as if we couldn't tell. Who is legit and what links were real or not, and if that content was generated by chat PT or you know, if it didn't have, maybe we can't tell if it was autogenerated, but we can certainly tell if it has pieces of experience in there as part of eat. Yeah. You know, you know, maybe what you and I should do is create, um, an ss e o escrow validating company. Oh. I do that all day. Where it's like, you know, we don't want your business, we just want to, you know, we charge a consulting fee to protect you, help vet which your choices are, you know, bring us a three. You're considering, and we'll tell you the pros and cons of all of 'em. There we go. Thanks everybody. I would love to do that. Yeah, that, I mean, I've been doing that for 20 plus years. How many friends have you had coming saying, you know, Hey, you know, can you just like look at my s e o real quick? I, I'm sort of suspicious every day. That's like a, a dude saying, I think my, I think my wife's cheating on me. Do you think like, if they're ha if they're having to ask, I think you know what the answer is, right? Yeah. Every day I had, uh, co comes and goes, uh, in higher quantities, uh, on certain days, but it is nearly, I've had three, it's, we hit record at 1:00 PM today and by 1:00 PM I had three just today that asked me that. Yeah. I've had 35 in the last 10 days. Yeah. Yeah. And it's consistent. Yeah. And I help most people for free. Like there's this one that hit me up literally just 15 minutes ago and I'm looking at their text. Hey Dennis, my name is Chris. I'm a friend of so-and-so. She gave me your number in regards to an SS e o audit I was hoping to get done on a site I'm working on. And then there's some specifics there. I'd love to chat if you're free. Anytime. Yeah, I'll, when we're done, I'll call him back. I'll take a look at the site and in three minutes I'll tell him what's going on. Yeah. Yeah, because you and I are mechanics, we pop open the hood, we take a look, we hook up the diagnostics, and we're like, okay, here's what's actually going on with the car. Why don't we talk about, you know, you, you just made the comment that you'll, you'll usually help 'em for free. Um, as do I. And a lot of times the, the industry will tell you to do otherwise. It's, it's charged. They're sales oriented, and yes, your time is valuable and like, I'm not gonna get on a whole hour call. I'll just do a, a look at a couple quick things and because I think that, I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I think s e o is, is now verticalized. It's better to, if, if I know a lot about liposuction, I can do li, I can do ss e o for liposuction, doctors all over the place. I'll just have a competitive advantage over all the other people like. Over people like you and me that are just like good generally, but we also know certain categories. You've been doing 17 years, you know, a number of categories by now. But I think that when people come in and I do a quick audit, like any of us can do this, looking at the basics. Mm-hmm. It's easy to do the analysis. Doing the work is different. I'll pass them to someone that I know, like I'll pass 'em to you. Mm-hmm. Or I'll pass them to someone that's really good in that particular industry for real estate agents. For insurance brokers, for e-commerce, for like whatever, right? And the days when 25 years ago, you, you, you could be a generalist, but I feel like you have to be vertically specific if you really want to be world class. It's, it's literally minutes. Yeah. I mean, yeah, why not? Why put the berry up? Yeah. Literally, you're right. Two minutes I can, I can audit someone at two. And I've done this like we did one last week for the city of San Francisco and the small Business development center, which is this nationwide thing, part of the S B A and people were signing up. We had a whole bunch of people on Zoom and I just did audit after audit after audit. People love doing it. We've been doing it now for 18 months 'cause they started it up in the middle of Covid and we've been doing it every month. It's great. Yeah. Free audits. Why not? Not selling anything, but people say, oh, can you recommend someone to, you know, my website's on Wix. Okay. Go to Upwork and use the job postings that we have on converting and, and here's the job posting. This is my website. It's on Wix. I wanna move to WordPress. Here's another guy's website. Don't copy it exactly. But can you make it like that and host it on WP Engine? And I wanted to meet this other criteria. We have website, we have criteria. You can literally Google it, like website audit checklist, blitz metrics, you'll see. And, and it also has to fit this criteria. How much? $300. Okay, cool. This guy's 95% and has 200 ratings, and his earnings are $200,000. Like he's in Pakistan. Okay, fine. Sure. $300, let's do it. Right? Yeah. And we teach people how to hire VAs and how to hire people in Upwork, in Fiverr. But the data that you get is, is infinitely, it's worth more, more than that. I mean, you're, you're buying so much wisdom in such a compressed amount of time to make a long-term decision. Yeah. And so if it's a, it's a Fortune 500 company, I'll say, okay, it's a power hour, go to blitz metrics.com/powerhour and we have an onboarding process because they don't want just three minutes of my time. I'll give anybody three minutes of my time. 'cause it's just, it's too rude to say no and I'm important or whatever. I'll just give you three minutes of my time. Fine. Right? Mm-hmm. I'll prerecord it so it doesn't require being live. Yep. But if it's a, well, yeah, it's a well-known company, then I'm like, yeah, it's 15 hundreds, nothing for you. Mm-hmm. So we'll do that. And we had one two weeks ago and they bought that and they said, yeah, you know, we really are struggling. Can you help us? The s e o agency is playing games and like, yep. I already know what they're saying. And now we have a large contract. Yeah. So the 1500 led to, it was basically like a paid sales call. Yeah. If you're an agency, know that when you do, when you do it the right way, you just, you provide value, whether it's free or charged, or you know, you will drive more real clients because they trust you. Yep. And, and from my perspective, uh, I've talked about how there's only three types of content consumers. So the, the, and this is why you should give away your, your content for free or, or give your time as as availability permits. So consumer number one is the person that takes your advice and runs. Okay. Well they were never a client anyway, so you didn't lose them, but now you increased your reputation and your reach. Right? And then content consumer number two is somebody that may not need what you offer now, but knows somebody that does or they come back later, or three is they buy. Mm-hmm. So from my perspective, you have no losing reason to not just give away. All the answers for free, right? 'cause I want the person that values time more than money. So if, if they can implement it, I'm happy they made progress with it. Otherwise, you know, we, we, we establish trust, we establish credibility, and then when it makes sense, it, it just eliminates the sales walls. They would've been a horrible client to begin with. So we call those free tarts, right? You're a D I Y, you're gonna try to do it yourself. Save every penny. You know, you go and get your own groceries. I have the freaking ghost groceries delivered to me from Costco. I'm not gonna be a driver of like, I, you know, so those pe you give away your information for free because you don't want those kinds of clients to come to you. 'cause they're just gonna complain. They're nightmare clients. They're gonna, they're cheap. You know, you all. But I can get that for way less from the Philippines. Yeah, you go do that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, um, I think you and I could talk indefinitely, um, about a variety of things, especially this in this, this topic of the industry. Um, now, now as we get kind of closer to wrapping up, let's, let's kinda take the opposite approach. Um, so we've kind of, we've kind of beat up on our own industry a little bit. Um, let's, let's kinda help the aspiring, um, Agency owners with some, some wins, right? So we've said, don't do these things, which I guess imply the opposite of do these other things. But, um, you know, how did you start to build up your reputation? How did you start to get your foot in the door? How did you start to earn the trust of people? So we can kind of maybe end with a couple little tips there on the high note. So I believe that, you know, when I was a, a young adult and I. I didn't even speak English, you know, until I was seven. I always felt that I wasn't good enough and I felt that all these other people were so much bigger and better than me. And I remember going to Pubcon and Kevin Lee of did it was speaking. And this guy started analytics company. He's well known in the world of SS e o, and I thought, wow, this guy's like a God. I would love to be able to do SS e o and all this, but I don't think I'm like him. He's so well spoken and just everything about him. I just worshiped this guy. Now, I was an engineer at Yahoo and I was a great engineer, but I didn't know how to communicate and. I didn't know if I could make promises to the client. 'cause you know, I wanted to make money as an agency 'cause on my way, you know, as I was about, about to leave Yahoo. And, but I didn't, you know, I knew I'd work really hard and I knew I was honest and ethical, but I, I, I didn't wanna go out there and just start making promises 'cause there's a chance I couldn't deliver. So, you know, I would tend to not say anything or tend to not. I put myself out there 'cause I thought all these other people are out there just aggressive, fast talking salespeople didn't wanna be like that. 'cause I heard so much the garbage, like what we talked about. And then I realized, you know, there are clients, if you find the right clients that they will, it's like night and day. So when we had Quiznos as a client, Hmm. They were a fantastic client. They weren't the nightmare where they're, every day they're like checking their rankings and asking what's going on. And they paid us a lot of money, and I find that if you're an aspiring s e o and you're growing, it's yes, obviously learn from people like Damon and keep improving and work hard and have great operations and all that stuff, but I think client selection is the most important part. When you have the right client and you're transparent with them and you have a relationship with them, and you, you, you go out to dinner with them, maybe if you could meet them, right? It's just so much better and it results in retention and you feel good about what you're doing. And then you have 'em on your podcast as you start to have results and they love to talk about you. Like we did this for the Golden State Warriors, the basketball team. And I loved working with the Golden State Warriors. They treated us so well. I got to meet Steph Curry and hang out in the locker room and go to the playoff games. They paid us a lot of money. And here's the, the thing that may seem too far away for most younger ss, e o people, I put them on stage. I was given the opportunity to speak, to be a keynote speaker at one of the largest conferences in Europe. The last year's keynote was Richard Branson. And they wanted me to be keynote, and I said, no, no. Instead of me being the keynote, I wanna put the head of marketing from the Golden State Warriors, the very popular basketball team as the keynote, and I'll introduce 'em. Right? And that worked wonders. There was a case study that was done by Facebook on us. So your reputation carries everything. The relationships that you have, interviewing your clients, interviewing other people that are competitors, you know, maybe Damon or I are competitors. Not really. 'cause there's plenty out there for all of us. So by having the abundance mindset that enables us to be able to share what we've learned and elevate other people like, wow, Damon just wrote this great article. I'm gonna share it. I don't if he generates more clients because of that, that is fantastic. It doesn't have to come to me. Most of my posts that I put out there on Facebook are elevating other people and how awesome they are. I think that's hard to do if you're small and you're not making money. You're like, oh, I want every dollar that comes my way 'cause I need every penny to pay rent and whatnot. I get it. But if you change your mindset, this is the last I'll say about this whole like motivational speaker walk on Kohl's, Tony Robbins kind of thing. But I found if, and I wish I knew this 20 years ago, that. If I spent more effort honoring and elevating other people in the industry that will drive me more of the right kind of clients that I want, even without me talking about my expertise or what I know or how good I am. I closed five clients last week on SS e o pieces because I was elevating, you can go back to my Facebook mm-hmm. And figure out what it was. But by elevating other people that are well-known. Industry. I interviewed yesterday on my podcast, one of the top content marketing experts, and she's a big deal at LinkedIn that's driving my reputation up. People buy based on your reputation. It's all based on your perceived authority. That's why clients buy if you're a sales minded person. The perceived authority gives you the opportunity to get the right client. And then, like you said, Damon, those three, three categories, when you do the audit, figure out which one they are. Mm-hmm. And if they're great, then you have to deliver. As long as you can deliver, then you're great. Right? And so I approached from the standpoint of I learned how to deliver first as a search engine engineer. So I feel like Damon, I'm credible to talk about ss e o 'cause I'm one of the few people that actually worked at the search engine and you know, like I have a good opinion about this thing. I have some credibility here. And so now it's easy for me to audit. It's, I've done this enough times, I've learned from, from other people. So I would hang out in, in like London. Singapore with Rand Fishkin and his mom, Jillian, who's the one who's really running the show. Mm-hmm. And you know, we're putting together s e o presentations, we're hanging out with the conference organizers, and I realized these are these people that I thought were gods, were humans too. Kevin Lee, who I told you was the guy I worshiped before he, he invited me on his podcast twice. And I said, I said to him on the podcast, I can't believe you can even Google it. And see, this is what I said. I can't believe I'm on, I'm hanging out with you, Kevin. I mean, this is a guy, like when you were done speaking on stage and then all the people would come up to you, I, and I'd never get a chance to talk to you like, oh, one day I'd love to talk to Kevin Lee. And here I, here you are reaching out to me to be on your podcast. What the heck is going on here? He said, no, no, no, Dennis, I'm just honored to be spending time with you. And then he said all these great things about me. And I said, this is being recorded, isn't it? Yeah. But maybe, you know, if you're doing ss e o and, and you feel like you don't know as much as Damon or whatnot, you know, sometimes you, you have to step back and look at how much you know. So when you interview someone or someone else interviews you, you realize like, oh wow. I actually have come a long way. I've actually learned a lot. That puts you in a, in a position of gratitude and you honor your clients and you're not worried about poaching, you're not worried about other people that do s e o I help other people that do s e o for a living. I'm, you do that too, Damon. Mm-hmm. Does that hurt your business at all in any way? Not at all. It helps your business. So we have a lot of clients do that. We do s e o for, and still I'm talking about Damon and I'm sending people to Damon and it doesn't hurt me at all. Yeah. And, and it, it only, it only helps. And, and when Dennis says he, 90% of his posts are about lifting other people up. He, he's very literal. It's. Probably 90% or, or plus. And it's just, you know, it's not necessarily contact creation, but documentation of Yeah. What you're doing and the engagements and the people that you're connecting with. Um, and, and I actually just made a post on LinkedIn this morning about, um, on the same topic, there's somebody who I've been mentoring and. I send them business. Right? Yeah. Because then it helps the the person that I connected them with to finally get somebody that can support them morally and ethically, and then it helps a young aspiring entrepreneur to build their business up and then they're going to reciprocate the other way when, when it's a client that's a little bit outta their league. Yeah, but it's a, it's amazing to watch for, for me, the, the part that I find most fascinating, obviously, yeah, sales is great. Um, growing is great, but the Wild Card is, is always what I find the most fascinating and rewarding, where you get a relationship that you didn't expect or an opportunity to, to meet or do a thing. You know, just like you said, you, you got to go, um, in the locker room, meet Steph Curry, just like those things that. You, you didn't have on your to-do list. But then when it happened, it was such an amazing thing. That's what I find the most rewarding about serving and helping others and, and just being moral and transparent. Yeah, serendipity. And you build these relationships over time and they start to unlock other things. And in finance, this is called a, a real option. So by having the Golden State Warriors as a client, we then were able to work with the N F L. Yeah, and the N B A and all these other sports teams came calling, and I never would've realized. I guess in hindsight it's like, well, yeah, obviously you're promoting how awesome the Golden State Warriors are. Facebook wrote a case study. Mark Zuckerberg mentions you on stage, you know, and how we got a 39 r every dollar got $39 back of what we invested. Of course that would've happened, but you never at, in the moment, you're not thinking about that. Mm-hmm. So really when you, when you have great relationships that for you young s e o people focus on the relationships, focus, make sure your communication is great. The ss e o people have a reputation for being geeks that don't communicate. Be personable. You, you sent me some cookies, Damon. Wow, that was so awesome that that was serendipitous. I enjoyed that. And that that's just building relationship. Checking in on people, clicking like on their posts and delivering great work leads to so much more. The referrals that you get from your existing clients are worth more than any marketing you could ever do. You do a good job of that. You never need to do marketing. Uh, I, I'm 17 years in and this is the first year I've considered spending a dollar on advertising. So the entirety of this multimillion dollar business has built, uh, purely on reputation and results because you've earned it. You have the perceived authority and you have the actual authority. Yeah. Well, Dennis, um, I appreciate, uh, that I, I just love talking to you. You got a good vibe. Um, it's good to be in company with somebody else who's transparent and straightforward. Um, I did not pay Dennis to say kind things about me, but I greatly appreciate them. Are you giving me a commission at all? No, I, because 'cause I believe in you. Yeah. And you've, you've taken the effort and I've taken the effort to build the relationship over years and people can tell. Yep. Yeah. And then once you get in, as you just started talking about with Golden State Warriors and then other professional sports teams, when you get in with somebody, you know, I'm not gonna refer anybody to somebody that I won't put my name behind. And I'm sure you feel the same way, right? Yep. And so when you get in and you establish these relationships with people at high level, they, they have a, a. A, a circle of trust, right. That you get exposed to once you establish your authority and your ability to deliver. So, I mean, there's so many different, to kind of wrap this up on the, the thing of, you know, you can't outrun your reputation and you can't outsell your reputation. You can probably get pretty far in the beginning by focusing on sales and not reputation. Yeah. Uh, but eventually you hit that. Amplifier of, of reputation where it begins to go tenfold times tenfold, times tenfold. That you couldn't spend, I mean, you couldn't have bought your way into a relationship with the Golden State Warriors. No. Because they get three calls a day from people that are offering ss, e o, and P p C and all kinds of magic promises. Yeah. You know, funny. Um, I got to work with, uh, Utah Jazz on their retail division, team store. Same thing. Came from a relationship. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you're, if you're a player in the game, you wanna be here long term, focus on relationships. If you just wanna make some quick money now focus on sales, but you'll, you'll be run out and then whatever the next new thing is, you'll do that in a year or two. But if you wanna be like Damon relationships all day, I know like people say that all day, but I, I promise you that's the thing. It's not sales calls. It's not the cold email. Magic blasting using ai. That's not it. Yeah, Dennis, you blitz metrics. Uh, how can people get ahold of you, learn more about you? They can Google me and they can see a full knowledge panel and whatever your favorite channel is, and I respond to everybody. It's not a va, it's me. It might take me a few days, but I, you know, LinkedIn's probably the best way to reach me from a business standpoint. Well, Dennis, you blitz metrics, Google m Dennis, last name, y u. It's been a pleasure looking forward to meeting up again and doing our thing wherever that is next time. Awesome Damon. Appreciate you

My guest on this week's episode of Suds & Search is Dixon Jones, CEO of inLinks. Dixon is an industry veteran, a published author, frequent blogger, and one of the best educators in the industry. He's won numerous awards, including the illustrious Search Personality of the Year Award, and inLinks, the company he founded, won the award for Search Technology of the Year. Dixon is an in-demand conference presenter and frequent keynote speaker. A few places you might've heard Dixon speak include, Pubcon, Brighton SEO, State of Search, and SMX. I caught up with Dixon on the day inLinks was launching their new, super cool social media tool. This is the closest Suds & Search has come to a scoop, so I'm going to ask Dixon all about it. We'll spend most of our time together talking about Dixon's favorite topic, entities. He literally wrote the book titled, “Entity SEO Book: Moving from Strings to Things.” If you really want to learn how Google has evolved its search engine over the years, you might be hard-pressed to find a better expert than Dixon Jones, and he explains complex things in a way that's very accessible. Grab something cold to drink and join me for a conversation with Dixon Jones. We'll chat about disambiguation, how we can learn about the knowledge graph from posters you might find at a pub, and I'll spend a little time chatting about meeting the queen.Subscribe to Suds & Search | Interviews With Today's Search Marketing Experts on Soundwise

On this episode of the SEJ Show, we dive headfirst into the aftermath of Google's momentous May, from I/O to Marketing Live. Join SEJ Editor-in-Chief Amanda Zantal-Wiener in conversation with industry experts Roger Montti and Matt Southern as we dissect the key takeaways and groundbreaking announcements from Google's annual events.  From an abundance of AI announcements to product updates, tune in to learn how to leverage and apply these developments to stay ahead of the curve.   Google announced a lot of things, but they're not shipping anything yet, so it's not like they're flooding the market with all this new stuff that we have to try. There are a lot of announcements, and I find that we have a lot of time to digest them before we can get our hands on them and use them. –Matt Southern, 2:17 The big takeaway that I got from I/O and the way Google is looking to change the search experience, also with GML yesterday changing the advertiser experience is making everything conversational, which by the way, I feel like we've seen this before. Conversational marketing with chatbots etc., was a really big deal. There's a big emphasis on a conversational approach to all these things. –Amanda Zantal-Wiener, 32:22 So it seems both Open AI and Google are afraid of the democratization of AI. Right now, people are building a chatbot for 500 bucks or less, so the technology is out there. People are building their own things, like Jasper AI is working with Cerebras, which provides AI infrastructure, and a lot of people think Jasper AI is just taking a chat GPT feed and modifying it. No, they built their own large language models using the Cerebras infrastructure, and it's very unique to them and very specific–what's called domain-specific. That's going to pose a problem for them, and they want to keep a light on it, in my opinion, but that's why you're seeing the first strike from Google and open AI about the legislation because they want to control what the laws are. –Roger Monttii, 7:17   [00:00] - About Matt & Roger [02:04] - Are things slowing down this summer? [05:50] - The talk about the L-word: Legislation. [12:33] - The white paper on Google's ethics and AI. [17:32] - Initial thoughts on Google's Search Generative Experience (SGE) [22:03] - About Section 230. [32:22] - How do you optimize for the new search experience? [47:15] - How will the new search experience impact accessibility & KPIs? [52:37] - What's the motivation for companies? [58:26] - What's on the horizon?   Resources mentioned: Google I/O: https://io.google/2023/   230 should be amended to account for recommender algorithms which is a relatively new thing that didn't exist. Section 230 was originally formulated to regulate, give a fair forum, and allow free speech. Section 230 is about allowing free speech. But let's face it: When it comes to people advocating harm, it might seem controversial, but there should be limits on free speech because the right to free speech is only the right to have to be able to say what you want and not have government and put laws into it.  Free speech is when I walk into your house or Matt's house, or anybody who's watching. I can't go in there and say whatever the hell I want. You have the right to kick me out. So when you go to a website, whether it's YouTube, Twitter, or some random forum, if you don't can abide by the terms of service that restrict what kind of speech is allowed there, they have the right to kick you out. –Roger Monttii, 27:22 As far as the summer in search, I think that it might slow down, but Google has a history of pushing things without announcing them over to summertime, although there are some updates too. But there's been a history of Google pushing important changes related to how search works during the summer and then announcing it in the fall. –Roger Monttii, 4:13 I was watching the hearing with Sam Altman, and it seemed a little too friendly compared to previous hearings. It's unusual for a company like that to just welcome regulation, almost like they're asking, "please regulate us." –Matt Southern, 10:09 For more content like this, subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/searchenginejournal Are you looking to keep up with current and effective digital marketing today? Check out https://www.searchenginejournal.com for everything you need to know within the digital marketing space and improve your skills as an internet marketer.   Connect With Roger Montti: Roger Montti is a seasoned search marketer boasting over 20 years of experience in the field. He has built a solid reputation for expertise and effectiveness by offering site audits, phone consultations, and content and link strategy assistance.  In addition to being a Head Judge for the 2020 and 2021 U.S. Search Awards, Roger is also a publisher of award-winning websites, showcasing his multifaceted talents within the industry. As a prominent figure in search marketing, Roger has shared his insights at various conferences, including SES, SMX East, SMX West, SMX Advanced Seattle, Affiliate Summit NYC, Affiliate Summit West, and multiple PubCon events. In addition, his writing covers various topics, such as WordPress, Facebook, Google, SEO, and search marketing, further establishing him as a thought leader. Connect with Roger on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinibuster/ Follow him on Twitter: https://twitter.com/martinibuster Connect With Matt Southern: Matt G. Southern, a highly respected Senior News Writer, has been integral to the Search Engine Journal team since 2013. With a bachelor's degree in communications, he excels at distilling complex subjects into clear, engaging content.  In addition to writing, Matt is responsible for overseeing strategy development within SEJ's news department, ensuring that the organization remains at the forefront of the digital marketing and search engine optimization landscape. As a trusted source of information, Matt's work at SEJ combines accuracy, quality, and relevance. His dedication to excellence in reporting and commitment to helping others better understand search engines and digital marketing make him an indispensable asset to SEJ and the broader industry. Connect with Matt on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgsouthern/ Follow him on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MattGSouthern Connect with Amanda Zantal-Wiener, Editor-in-Chief at Search Engine Journal: Follow her on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Amanda_ZW  Connect with her on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandazantalwiener/ 

Show Resources Here were the resources we covered in the episode: Top Rank Marketing's Site Lee Odden's LinkedIn Lee Odden's Instagram Follow AJ on LinkedIn   NEW LinkedIn Learning course about LinkedIn Ads by AJ Wilcox Youtube Channel Contact us at Podcast@B2Linked.com with ideas for what you'd like AJ to cover. A great no-cost way to support us: Rate/Review! Show Transcript AJ Wilcox Are you using influencer marketing community and thought leadership as part of your LinkedIn Ads strategy? We dive into these topics and more on this week's episode of the LinkedIn Ads Show. Welcome to the LinkedIn Ads Show. Here's your host, AJ Wilcox. AJ Wilcox Hey there LinkedIn Ads fanatics. Today I have a special treat for you. Lee Odden has specialized in B2B marketing for his almost entire career. And I'm grateful to call him a friend. He and I have spoken at many of the same B2B events. Although I have to admit he's oftentimes the keynote, while I'm one of the breakout speakers. But, I've always looked up to him as a mentor and a thought leader and a friend. Today, we have a wide ranging conversation covering everywhere from thought leadership to influencer marketing and building communities in B2B, and I promise as a B2B marketer, you'll get a lot out of this. I wanted to highlight a review here by Alessia Negro. She's a senior sales and marketing executive in the hospitality industry out of Dublin, Ireland. Alessia says, "Absolutely great podcast. I have learned a lot about LinkedIn from this podcast. I think whoever wants to learn LinkedIn ads should follow it." Alessia, thanks so much for the kind words. And I do agree. Although I realized I'm a bit biased. And if you're a regular listener, I want to feature you so make sure to leave a review. And I'll shout you out live here. All right. Without further ado, let's hit it. Alright, we've got Lee Odden, co founder of TopRank Marketing. Lee, thanks so much for joining us. We're super excited to have you here. Lee Odden It's great to be here, AJ. Good to see you. AJ Wilcox Alright, so first off, tell us a little bit more about yourself. Anything that I didn't cover in that rather short and sweet intro. Lee Odden I started in marketing, and basically the late 90s. I was actually got into the website sales game selling websites over the phone to small businesses, believe it or not, people would fax us their brochures and we'd make a website out of that. And then of course, people started asking how are we going to get traffic to these websites that you're making us? And that's where I learned about SEO, you know, about creating doorway pages and, you know, creating different web pages for different search engines AltaVista excite Lycos hotpot, you know, no one has heard of those. But then Google came on the scene and linking, and content became more important blogging, social media, and really, over the last 10 years really leaned into the whole idea of CO creating content with influencers. So ultimately, what we tried to do is help customers be the best answer help our clients, b2b tech companies mostly be the best answer for their customers. And it's worked out really well. And, you know, it's kind of funny, on the path from being a really small agency to serving small customers to now serving large enterprise brands. I took that advice myself, right. So I started blogging, and I started doing the kinds of things to make myself known in the industry as a magnet to the agency. You know what I mean by speaking at events and being active on social and connecting with people who were influential to make myself influential, you know, and it's been a fun ride. And when I'm not doing marketing stuff, I'm usually running running is kind of been my thing during COVID. Basically, when I'm actually training for my first marathon, which is going to happen in four weeks. So I'm pretty excited about that. Oh, that's so AJ Wilcox Exciting! Alright, so what's your preparation for the marathon look like right now? I know, you start to do a lot more mileage as you go. Are you doing like low high mileage right now? Lee Odden Yeah, my highest mileage will be tomorrow. But I did 23 miles last Saturday. And I'll probably do 23.5 or something like that tomorrow. I don't need to do much more. Because the whole race is 26. Yes. So yeah, I've been running more than 13 miles for the last seven weeks or so. I've even run a couple of half marathon races just as a workout, which is kind of a crazy idea. Because a year ago, I was wondering whether I could even run 13 miles, let alone run one quickly. And quickly is subjective quickly to me. Not quickly, compared to a lot of friends of mine that I have out there that are runners that are just smoking it, but it's a great way to get out. It's a disciplined thing. It's a lifestyle thing. Now for me, I feel odd if I haven't run that day. And so it's good for your health. And it's great to have goals, right? Yes, it's great to work towards a goal and having a commitment to a thing that takes a long time is incredibly rewarding when you've been able to reach those milestones, right? And also you connect with a community of other like minded people. And now I'm starting to get all these Instagram posts from running communities with these inside jokes about running and it's like, oh my god, this is so funny, but nobody else cares, nobody else cares. It's fun. AJ Wilcox Well, It's so fulfilling, I think to accomplish something physically, that is hard that you know, other people can't. Before a knee surgery, I used to be a runner. And so I do a half marathon every year and an Olympic trial. And I love those kinds of things. I loved accomplishing something physically, that's awesome. Plus, it gives you insight, because you're already community minded, which we'll talk into more, but it gives you something to compare and think about, as you're developing communities around an interest that people have, you can mentally I think, compare it to like, oh, for me, this is running. But for someone else this is whatever the community is. Lee Odden You know, that's really important insight. There's a lot of value in metaphor analogy, when trying to break down new or complex ideas into something familiar for people. Because in order for those ideas to be adopted, they have to be communicated in a way that people will be willing to receive. And so yeah, that's a great point running as metaphor, or, you know, overcoming challenges. A lot of people, I'm inspired by our fitness people, but what I'm inspired by them about isn't so much about the fitness it's about overcoming challenges and worldview, and, you know, being resilient and those sorts of things. AJ Wilcox Perfect. So jumping back here into B2B, how did you originally get interested in b2b? How did you land? Because my understanding is you're exclusively B2B with your clients, or do you have some VC? Lee Odden Exactly. So my agency top rank marketing did start as SEO and PR firm, I had previously mostly consumer experience in marketing doing SEO for consumer websites. And my partner, though, had been working mostly with B2B tech companies as a director of marketing, VP of marketing. And so over time, well, through her knowledge and experience, I learned a lot more about B2B. And the market was responding in terms of inbound interest in our services from B2B companies. And I have a fun story about the big leap early in our business, we were working remotely. And I was working in my unfinished basement, right. And I had a desk down there. And I got a call and someone asked me if I would come speak at their conference, this company was fortune 15 company. So I had been blogging, I spoke a little bit, people knew about me being able to talk about SEO and public relations. So that was a unique intersection. And they wanted me to come speak at their event. And I spoke one morning to their marketing people. And then they said, Come back tomorrow and talk to all of our PR people. So they were a company that was so big, they brought all their different businesses, all the marketers from their all their different businesses and had a little mini conference. And so the second day, I talked to all the PR people. And my contact said, Hey, one of our senior executives was in the room yesterday. And we wanted to know if we could engage your agency on an ongoing basis. So this is the fortune 15 company was a b2b business unit that wanted to hire us. And we were only four people I'm working out of my unfinished basement. Wow. So of course, I said, yes, absolutely, we can help you out. And we figured it out. And that was a fast track to learning about b2b and learning the language of large, complex organizations, because obviously, that's very different than working with a small or medium sized business. And that laid the groundwork for me and the people that I had to competently be able to serve other b2b companies. Right. So now, Adobe, and you know, we've had experience with companies like SAP and Oracle, I've done work for Microsoft, and a really large telecom that I cannot mention, ever, but you know, biggest one, and so on and so forth. So and LinkedIn, my God, what am I saying, we've been working with LinkedIn for gosh, almost 10 years now, providing content and SEO services. So it's been an interesting ride, and b2b is a great space, because there's so much opportunity to raise the bar, it doesn't have to mean boring, boring, there's a lot of exciting things you can do. And there's so much room for us to be able to do it with because of the longer sales cycles, emphasis on content and education and that sort of thing. AJ Wilcox Well, I'm glad you shared someof them, I get the feeling that a lot of the kinds of clients that you were with are the kind that don't want you saying that you work with them. So it's really good to understand, and from my understanding a lot of the community and many of the thought leaders within LinkedIn that we hear from, I won't say created by you that you're the one behind them, but you're kind of the inspiration there. Do you have any comment or anything to share on that? Lee Odden Well, certainly, it's one thing to make a decision that people within your company should have greater visibility that you want to grow their influence, that you want to facilitate social interaction. But it's another thing to do that with intent with intent in a way that will achieve a particular outcome. So that requires doing some homework developing a strategy and architecting Okay, exactly how are we going to execute this in a way that is best going to accomplish the goal that we're after? So it's not just about tweeting more, or doing a LinkedIn live every once in a while. It's like, okay, what's the topic? And what is the anchor topic? What are the derivative topics? What are the conversations that we can repurpose from that? Who are the content collaborators or influencers on that topic that we can connect with, not only for co creation, but distribution, and so architecting all that stuff is really where the most magic comes from. And then for some companies, we do write content for them. But like I said, a lot of the magic comes in through the strategy and the architecture of the all that, and then of course, the ongoing optimization of performance. And then of course, yeah, and then some content here and there. AJ Wilcox Beautiful. I love it. Alright, so talking about thought leadership, specifically, tell us about why B2B marketers should be investing in being seen as a thought leader. Lee Odden So if you mean is, like B2B marketer, as an executive at a company or B2B marketer, like you and me are B2B marketers. AJ Wilcox Yeah, I think a little bit of everything. I think, executives, I think the frontline workers, everyone in between, like, what's the value? Lee Odden Absolutely. So there's a lot of value in that. We all are familiar with the idea, I think Nielsen came out with this research about how people don't trust brands, and they don't trust advertising. And of course, that's been repeated, by different folks since and it still is a challenge in combination with the overwhelming amount of information available to us. I don't know about you, but my email inbox is more of a monster now than it ever was. I mean, just keeping up is crazy. The social channels and people that I follow, I made a lot of effort to craft who I curate, and listen to, but it's just overwhelming amounts of information. I can only imagine what it might be for other folks who haven't had expertise in curation, right. So being a thought leader being a source of truth, for people who are in need, and let's face it, if you're in marketing, you're in need of up to date information every day, right? Ours is a dynamic industry. And so it's super important and to be competent in our industry, it's really very important that we connect with people that are on the forefront of what's new, what's trending, what's relevant. And so being a thought leader helps you as a person who is capable of original thought, who has something to offer, because that's kind of a prerequisite here, and being able to provide value to others in the industry. So that manifests as community building. It manifests as, you know, customers coming to you saying, hey, AJ, I've been listening to your podcast, and I've heard you talk about LinkedIn ads in this way or that way. It's like, you know, we're actually now in a position to get some help. I'm sure that happens all the time. Natalie, I can tell you from personal perspective, I've had it happen. A million times, it feels like where people say, Haley, I saw you speak last week, I saw you speak 10 years ago. And this is people who want to hire my agency, because I'm when I speak, I tell stories about the work the agency does, as well as just best practices, but also people who want to work for me will say, Yeah, you know, I saw you speak, I've been following your blog. And I'm just wondering if there's an opening, oh, my goodness, this person's amazing. And they're coming to us, you know. So for other folks, if you're an executive at a company, if you want to be listened to, if you want to be relevant, it's not enough for your own brands marketing, to go and put out information you think your customers need to know, buyers are looking for sources of truth. buyers are looking for people, humans that they can relate to, that they can subscribe to, so to speak. And if you have subject matter experts, if you are a subject matter expert, and you have something to offer, then it makes sense for you to go down that thought leadership path and make a connection and create value for those folks out in the industry because you know what they desperately need it. And they're overwhelmed with other information. And so you can actually provide them a service. And guess what, what's going to come back to you is new business. What's going to come back to you is community what's going to come back to you is connection with people who can make things happen. And AJ Wilcox What I hear from you is you actually have to have something to say in order to be a thought leader. So don't strive to be a thought leader for thought leader sake. But strive to be a great business professional, a skilled expert in your field, and then take that to share with others. Lee Odden Yeah, and so there's two things I'd say too, if you don't have that yet, if you're not there yet. I feel like if you're Junior in New York career and you feel like thought leadership is in your future. Two things. One, if you don't have a lot of resources, you could document your journey towards thought leadership. And that actually could help you be a thought leader, as a junior person, you could connect with others who are already thought leaders, they could do things like interviews, you could do things like, get quotes from them, or whatever. And so you can document that journey as you are learning more and more about a particular subject matter. And, you know, hey, I experimented with this. And I found this as an outcome, or I talked to this person. And here's some insight that they shared, I noticed in the news, they're talking about this. And here's what I think about that. documenting that journey can actually help you become a thought leader. The other thing is, if you do have resources, you're at a brand. And you don't know how to do this, you can certainly hire an expert, like an agency, or a PR firm or someone like us who can help you develop a plan for thought leadership, maybe even provide some of the content. And that doesn't happen that often. But it can. AJ Wilcox That's a great point. All right. So we've talked about thought leadership as individuals, what about getting your B2B brand to be seen as a thought leadership brand? Do you have any thoughts? Lee Odden Yeah, absolutely. You know, for companies, it's a huge differentiator in a crowded marketplace to be thought of first, when companies have a problem, and they're thinking of solution providers, right. And thought leadership is something especially in B2B. But you know, in general, it's useful from a marketing PR perspective. But in B2B, especially, these are large considered purchases. So you're not just looking for the best solution, you're looking for a solution that you know, is going to be relevant, and maybe innovative and important for you in the long run. So if a brand invest in thought leadership, and what that means is you're articulating a point of view, and it's validated by third parties. So that means that industry publications and industry influencers that are validating the ideas that you're putting forth, you're putting out original research, you're pointing out points of view, you're creating opportunities for other people who are important voices and trusted voices in the industry to have conversations with your executives with people that represent your brand. And that kind of combination of information, helps people subscribe to your religion, so to speak, they subscribe to your point of view. And they start to rely in trust on you as the source of truth. So a great example is Edelman puts out the trust research. Edelman is a huge, huge agency, obviously, they have a lot of resources. But it's like, you know, you can rely on Edelman's research about how people trust brands or not, year after year, because they continue to put out that research and they have other marketing conversations around that. For our small part. You know, we put out a report on B2B influencer marketing. And it's really been a great way for people to know that there is data, thoughtfulness and expertise behind the fact that we're a source of solution when it comes to working with influencers or content in the B2B marketing space, because we are connecting with third party entities influencers and media to corroborate those ideas, right? So brands is thought leaders super important. If someone's got a problem, don't you want them to think of you first, as a solution? I totally agree. AJ Wilcox I think especially in a crowded marketplace, where you have 15 vendors that you can go to for a CRM and information security service, of course, you're gonna gravitate towards the one that you feel like you have the best relationship with. And I think that comes from the thought leadership that comes from community that comes from being a voice that people want to hear. Absolutely. So I think you've touched a little bit here on parts of the strategy. But if someone wanted to start becoming a thought leader, or having their company be seen as a thought leader, what are the steps, the components that you would tell them? Like, here's the strategy for how you actually start to implement this? Lee Odden That can be a really big answer. So I'll be succinct. If I can, I think the first thing you got to do is, you know, specify what is it that you want to be a thought leader about? There's got to be topic specificity. You can't be a thought leader about all things, right? That's just not resource practical. But you've got to identify that thing that sits at the intersection of how you want to be known and what customers are most interested in. And so be a thought leader about that thing, right? Because that represents what's in demand and relevant to your solutions. And as you make that determination, then all things flow from that. What kind of content will you create? What kind of connections will you make? What kind of cadence will you publish and interact at right? So you get an idea about the resources that are needed in order to put something like that into action, right? There's got to be some consistency and continuity of message from thought leader. So in other words, if I talk about 10 Different things over a period of time, it's like, well, yeah, he talks about a lot of stuff like I guess marketing. But if I'm talking about, you know, B2B content, B2B content marketing, b2b content marketing, I mean, I'm talking about derivative ideas around that concept. But really, it's like, wow, B2B content marketing or B2B influencer marketing, people will come to know you as that very specific thing. So you've got to have some choices made about the topic derivative topics, you've got to think about the publishing platform or platforms, you know, is it the company website, the blog, or social channel? As the center of your hub? And the spokes? Are your distribution channels? Okay, where am I going to amplify this? Am I going to amplify through email? Am I going to pull people in through ads? Am I going to do some media relations and talk about these stories with journalists in the industry? Am I going to connect with industry experts? Am I going to partner with them and collaborate with any of them on initiatives? We have what we like to call best answer strategies, how to be the best answer is really kind of a thought leadership play. And you can do things like this is a practical tactic things. Okay, so let's say you want to be the best answer for a particular thing. It's like, okay, Fast Track way to get on the radar of the most important people in the industry, about that topic is to do what we call an honoring post, right? So it's like a list where the 25 top cybersecurity experts, right, I'm a cybersecurity provider of some kind and finance, right. And so here are the top finance cybersecurity experts. I don't even know if I could find 25 of those, but I'll do my best. And then I reach out to them. And I start to create a relationship with those folks. And I'll simultaneous to that, I might do a small version research, what are the trends, what's happening, and I'll invite those folks to be a part of that research. I'll start a podcast. And as I gain momentum, I might do something like, you know, a list of disparate resources like books, conferences, communities, and so on, and so forth. So I become like this destination around the topic. And that seems like a lot of work. But guess what, there's a lot of competition. And to be the best answer, guess what you've kind of have to be the best source of information, I would just say, as far as a thought leadership strategy, whether it's just you, or whether it's your brand, you don't go it alone, that would be one of the biggest mistakes. And that's why I suggest the idea of connecting with other industry experts, and finding opportunities to collaborate with them, you can start a podcast and become a thought leader on the thing that the podcast is about, that's cool. But if you involve other people, that are also well known about that idea, and you can create collaboration opportunities that create mutual value for you and your collaborators, then everybody wins out true, not just you and the person or people you're collaborating with, but especially the audience that you're trying to attract and engage. AJ Wilcox Oh, so true. I think it's so easy. If you're, let's say scrolling through your LinkedIn feed, and you're saying, I want to be a thought leader, let me see what other people are doing. You see someone is running a live stream, and you're like, oh, maybe I need to run a weekly live stream, and then someone else is running a podcast, and then someone else is recording videos, screenshare and posting them to YouTube, you're like, oh, I have to have a YouTube channel. And when you start taking from all of these ideas, you overextend yourself, because yeah, there isn't a strategy. So what I appreciate so much about what you shared is like this actually is a specific strategy where you can put the blinders on and ignore some of the other methods that other people are doing work on your own. And then you won't overextend yourself, like you can actually do this. Lee Odden Something I learned a long time ago about, you know, being known about a thing is one element, one leg of the stool is document your success, and then duplicate. So be specific, like you're saying, be specific on a particular or very specific channel, grow community on that channel. And you'll get to a point where it's like, wow, now it makes sense for me to extend into some other channels, right. And you can duplicate what you learned in that one channel into others. And that way, you can manage resources appropriately. And you create that continuity of message. And you'll be putting forward the most effective tactics for communication, as opposed to being in a constant state of experimentation. AJ Wilcox Yes. And when you look at what everyone else is doing, a lot of times they have a team that's helping them. And so I think that you can do this all yourself, you know, by the time you've done what you've talked about, which is really building a community around one channel or one thing, by the time it's ready to start expanding into other channels and taking on more things. By that time. You've probably built up more of a team and it's a She realistic, you Lee Odden could do that. Yeah. And then just thinking of myself, I started blogging, my only thing was I just started blogging, I could not write. And I started blogging in that blogging. You know, I always made mention of other people, I was just a way to have a conversation. And then social media came on. And people that read the blog started following me on Twitter, and then LinkedIn. And then I started speaking, and then I wrote a book and you know, just grew organically 100% organically. I did have help with the book. But with the rest, I publish all my own social stuff, I do all my own speaking stuff. And so it does make sense, at least in my case to branch out, you can get help to facilitate and expedite that stuff. But as an individual person, I think topics specificity specific channel is a great thing to get started with and expand from there. AJ Wilcox Oh, amen to that. Here's a quick sponsor break, and then we'll dive back into the interview. 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We probably see a lot of influencers in b2c we have for a long time, hate actors and celebrity involvement. But in B2B, I think this is a little fresher. And I think a little bit more new. What can you tell us about how B2B marketers should be thinking about leveraging influencers in B2B? Lee Odden We're kind of in a do more with less age, right? There's a lot of marketers pulling back right now B2B tech especially. And, you know, a lot of folks are looking for what are the most effective things I can be doing? Because the demands on delivering on mid to end to funnel KPIs, you know, forget about brand, right, are really high on people's lists. Well, the B2B Institute at LinkedIn did some research. And they found that at any given time, 95% of buyers are not in market, they're out market, right for any solution and only 5% are in a position like, yeah, we need a solution. And so that's not changed. Well, why influencers? Well, here's the thing, you know, you've got factors that are working against you, as a marketer, in this environment where you got to do more with less, we've got to produce, we've got to get results, we've got to react to this economic environment that we're in. And people are as buyers, you know, they are confronted with this information overload that we talked about before they are struggling to find single sources of truth. Who do they trust, they don't trust advertising. They don't trust brands a lot of the time, but they do trust people, they trust people that they follow. And so the idea of what would happen if you're able to connect with the most trusted voices in your industry? What if you're able to collaborate with them on creating content that was super targeted, super valuable to your buyers, and you're able to build a community of subscribers to a regular cadence of that kind of content, imagine how much more effective you'd be at reaching buyers that are actually going to pay attention, versus, you know, singularly relying on interruptive types of communications, right. And so influencers can play a very important role, not for everybody, but for a lot of companies that want to break through and want to attract and engage with buyers, that are really relying on industry experts that are influenced by people who are the thought leaders in the industry, right? And so there are very effective ways in which marketing programs can be put forward, that are creating content of value, of course, but our collaborations with these industry experts, so it's not just like every influencer is the same. It's not like I'm gonna think of a B2B marketing influencer and handling right? And Haley's, a wonderful, wonderful human being. But just because an Hanley is in a piece of ebook that we make or a video we make doesn't mean that's going to solve all problems. And handle is really broadly known as a very unique individual. She has both broad popularity, and she's actually super competent about her discipline. And so she's a unicorn in that way. So she's actually going to help satisfy bringing people in that don't haven't even heard of you, and actually start to consider you because she has that discipline, competency, about copywriting about content marketing, and that sort of stuff. But not all influencers are like that. So it's not just about working with influencers, it's about okay, how do we pair the right kinds of influencers for different stages of the buying cycle, for example, you know, the most popular influencers, those, you know, the pro influencers, they're doing keynotes. They're publishing books all the time. They're professionally famous in the B2B world, in their respective industry. Those are people you use to attract top of funnel types of outcomes. But then you work with people who are actual practitioners in an area, they can actually speak authoritatively on the discipline. So whether they're super user, whether they're a customer, or whatever, for those middle end to funnel types of content, assets, right. So you kind of line things up. So influencers are important, because everyone is influential, but everyone is influenced on a daily basis in some way. And you can architect programs that not only make your brand more relevant, and more credible, and can reach people that you're not reaching with your ads. But over time, you can build relationships with these most trusted voices in your industry in a way that they are starting to organically advocate for you. And that's priceless, right most valuable form of advertising word of mouth, if you can facilitate that as priceless. Oh, totally true. AJ Wilcox I have noticed in B2C influencers, usually they're paid off in some way. But in B2B, I see a lot of influencers, gotten through collaboration opportunities, and a lot of times money doesn't even have to exchange hands, you're doing something that's mutually beneficial to both of these companies are influencers audiences. Yeah, and you know, that's becoming more of an art to achieve that. Lee Odden So we started doing influencer marketing for B2B brands back in 2012. So back then, yes, it was true that the vast majority of influencer engagements were what we call organic. In the case of B2B influencer marketing, most of the influencers are contributing to content that lives on the brand channels. So if a person who's really well known in their particular subject matter area, could be seen in combination with a major brand, that's really credibility building for them, right. So they're creating influence for each other in that way. And so they'd be happy to do it for free, so to speak, obviously, it has to do with the ask too, if I ask someone for a quote, you know, no problem. But if I asked someone to write me 1000 word article, these days, that's probably going to cost something if I want them to write an article every month, that's gonna cost something. So it used to be maybe 90%, were organic 10% were paid way back in the day. Nowadays, it's like 60/40 60% might be organic activations, and 40% are paid. And that paid number is going up and up and up, as more people who are influential in the B2B space are creating media properties for themselves, right, they've got a really established podcast, they're part of a network of podcasts, you know, they're a blogger, or increasingly video assets of some kind, right? And so they're able to not only just say one nice thing about the brand, but they're actually able to put together a package of social distribution and content assets and this and that we're even, you know, do reports, and so on and so forth. So it's great, though, to have that mutual value, it's important to find something that you have in common with the influencer. And in some cases, they may want to contribute, because it's an easy Ask, and it aligns with what they want to do, and it doesn't cost you anything. And it could be that's the first thing you do. But then you might follow up and say, Wow, that was amazing. We'd really like to do to do this more robust thing, how much would that cost? And they're going to appreciate that. And trust me, when you pay an influencer. It's awesome, of course, for the influencer, but it's awesome for your brand, because now you've hired them. They are accountable to delivering to a specification. Whereas if you engage with people organically, and they say, Yeah, sure, I'll give you that thing by next Thursday. And if they don't, you have no recourse. You can't count on it. Right. They're not signing an agreement. So paying influencers is actually a really good thing. It's up to you to negotiate and to do your due diligence as far as who they are and their ability to deliver and have impact. AJ Wilcox Beautiful. I want to switch gears to talking about community because we've mentioned community several times. Yeah, you've put a lot of value and community over your career here in B2B, what role do you see communities playing in B2B. Lee Odden community is hugely important, I think because so many buyers are going to rely on their peers for recommendations. I mean, think you've probably had it happen I know I have. It's like, we go to remote work, and we need a new phone system that we can work, you know, so I don't know who to go to. So I asked a friend of mine, I go to a group community that I'm part of, and I say, Hey, does anybody know what's a good phone system? And this isn't real. But you know, I'm thinking of a silly example. And this happens every day. Right? And so being present with a community is important for b2b because it helps make you relevant, right? I talked about that expression being the best answer, right? Being a thought leader, being first choice means being where your customers are. And certainly your customers are part of different communities. So you have a couple of choices. You can be present in communities where your customers are, and you can exchange value, you can be a participant and you know, answer questions and interact or whatever your salespeople can or whoever, or you could create communities, right, you could say, Look, you know, we see that there's a common interest here, there's something that we can solve for. And it's not something we can do by ourselves. Why don't you join us at helping solve this problem together? Or why don't you join us on this journey to making our industry a better place, we actually are at the beginning of building a community around elevate b2b, right, elevate b2b marketing. And you know, we want to make b2b marketing a better place. And there are different messaging pillars that go along with that marketing, that is more experiential marketing, that is more inclusive, marketing that is more focused on connection, right community building, that sort of thing. So community is super important, I think, to be relevant, to be relevant. And first choice to customers in spaces where they're actually spending time. And where there can be a value exchange, right? It's one thing to provide useful content or utility to your customers through content marketing. It's another thing for you to create a place where as a brand, where your customers can connect with you, but also they can connect with each other. And there's a lot of momentum that can come from that. So I think community is super important. And when it comes to influencer marketing, same thing, you can engage with influencers on an individual basis, and that's fine. But when you can create a community of influencers that can connect with each other, in the context of your brand is solving Wow, now you have something really powerful right, that you can go to market with. And that can have a much bigger impact than these little one off campaigns, people are kind of dipping their toe in the water with here and there. Perfect. AJ Wilcox Alright, so lead, tell us what are those components to creating a community, especially as we're thinking about it for b2b? Lee Odden So as I mentioned, with, you know, thought leadership, I think that idea of topics specificity? Well, it's around the problems that you're trying to solve for, or the things that you stand for, that would be best served by the community. Right? So what's the glue that's going to hold this community together? What is the common interest that they have that aligns with that intersection of what it is that you stand for as a brand? And what's interesting to your customers, right? You also have to define who's going to be part of this community? How is the community get a function? There are other practical questions to be answered? Like, what platform are you going to use? And who are going to be your champions and your moderators? And what are the goals that you have for the community in terms of messaging penetration, in terms of size, in terms of engagement, and ultimately, you have to be accountable to some sort of ROI, right? And with any marketing initiative, those things all need to be defined, right? So sometimes community can start very intentionally. Yeah, there's communities is starting all the time where people just start in a LinkedIn, LinkedIn group or Facebook group or something like that. And it's just like, hey, and they invite a couple of other people who have a common interest. And it just starts organically and they start inviting, who do you know, that we can invite into this community and so on and so forth, or community could be an extension of an event? I think about marketing profs, and their marketing community, right, or Content Marketing Institute, has a whole community, but they also have an event, right? There's a marketing conference called PubCon that's been around. It's an SEO conference been around forever. And there's absolutely a community, you know, that is tied to that event where people you know, get to actually meet in person. So, you have to make choices about what is the purpose of the community, what are the topics that You're gonna cover what problems you're going to try and solve. And then you gotta identify some champions, some people who are going to help facilitate conversations, there's technology choices to make. And then obviously, you got to set up what kind of goals you're trying to achieve, not just for yourself, but the goals for the community itself. Well, selfishly, this AJ Wilcox is an awesome conversation, because we're actually just getting ready to launch our LinkedIn ads, courses and community all together. And so I'm paying special attention here. So thanks for the free advice. What are some of the phases that you'd actually go through in building and then scaling the community app? What should we keep in mind as we actually go to build this? Lee Odden Well, you know, again, you've got to think about some sort of milestone goals. Maybe the first phase is simply, you know, creating the architecture of the community. And as it relates to the major topics, the subtopics, and getting people involved that represent relevance and interest around those topics, inviting them to be actually be a part and then you've got to decide, okay, what are we going to offer them, right? You're so you're offering courses? Or you're offering opportunities for roundtables or discussions? Are you giving them visibility opportunities, and, you know, set some goals for that first milestone of having a certain level of participation. Maybe your first phase is very private. And no one knows about it, except, you know, those early invitees. And we've seen this demonstrated by the social networks that have all popped up all over the place over the last 20 years, or 15 years. And then maybe once you get to a certain threshold or milestone of participation, then you open it up, you know, more publicly as a phase out. And this is what I've observed being successful. One thing though, that, I think what happens is, there's a lot of excitement about anything new. And it's going to be really important to keep that excitement alive. And so you've got to allocate resources to a community manager, or managers that are not only going to be moderating stuff, but are going to be paying attention to what's the ebb and flow from a topic interest standpoint, from a content format standpoint, and adjusting and optimizing. Because if you do the same stuff, six months or a year into your community, it's probably going to peter out, right? If you're not responsive to where the community is growing and showing interest, you're, you're going to lose them probably. So hopefully, I think that's something to look forward to. That's something to anticipate from a face standpoint, maybe, you know, not every community has to start as an exclusive thing. That seems to work really well, though. And then it evolves into an inclusive thing, as there's something of more substance for people to experience, once you open the doors to all. I love it. AJ Wilcox Haley, just kind of off the wall question here for you specifically about LinkedIn ads. I mean, we've talked about communities, we've talked about thought leadership and influencers. One of the new features that's going to be coming out here in the next I would estimate one to three months that LinkedIn has are these thought leadership ads, where we're going to be able to boost personal posts, rather than rely on boosting or creating posts that come from the company for something like this coming out. What role do you see this playing? Do you have any feedback or thoughts or advice for us marketers? In thinking about the new ad format? Lee Odden I'm super excited about that. Because we know that things can get lost in the stream, but not so much about being able to put money behind a thought leadership posts for an individual. It's just like, you know, the targeting, how can we make sure how can we increase our ability for people that we want to see this thought leadership content? Well, other than through a feature like this, right. So I think that's super, super important. And, you know, we've already talked about the importance of individual thought leadership. And by the way, we did some research in our influencer marketing report about the value of executive influence and executive thought leadership at 65% of the companies that were engaging with building their executives, as thought leaders, said that that effort elevated the influence of the brand itself, right. So something like this being able to augment organic content at the individual level with LinkedIn thought leadership ads. Excellent, excellent opportunity. And, again, it'll really help people be able to be a little more intentional and targeted about what's showing up to who, and I think will really give those advertisers a big advantage over those who are relying on just the organic visibility that happens when you post normally I AJ Wilcox love that. All right, so final switch of gears here. What are you most excited about professionally right now? I'd love to ask the same question about what are you most excited about personally? Lee Odden Well, professionally, you know, we are celebrating our 22nd year in business this year. So that's amazing. That is amazing. Wow. And, you know, we made some strategic hires recently in marketing and sales. And we're launching a fresh brand fresh brand new website and blog will be launching with hundreds and hundreds of articles on content, search and influence, and a lot of really cool features, but a really well architected brand, and messaging and all that stuff. So I'm super excited about it. We haven't launched a new website in 10, fit 12 years, and we haven't really had a professional brand engagement with like a branding agency ever, never ever. So I'm super excited about that. Launching for influencer marketing here, late summer, and lots of other things happening. So I'm super excited about that great team. Yeah, an even bigger things plan that can't even talk about later on this year. So I'm super excited about that. I'd say at the intersection of personal and professional, I get to speak at a conference, the biggest conference for b2b in France, next month in Paris. Wow. And then a week later, I get to speak at the largest b2b conference in the UK, in London. So I'm super excited about that. And then I get to visit a client of ours in Geneva in between. So you know, that's pretty awesome. Get to do a little travel, get to do a little business abroad. And there you go. AJ Wilcox That's a lot to be excited about. All right. So I've caught a couple of the resources that you've kind of mentioned here. You talked about the Elevate b2b marketing community, you've talked about your influencer marketing report, I will put the links to those down below in the show notes for anyone. But as for resources, what would you like this LinkedIn ads audience to do what you want them to come follow you contact you in some way? Join the community, download a report, like, what do you have that we should be paying attention to? Lee Odden Absolutely check out top rank marketing.com. Our blog is there as well. With those actually, it's more than hundreds, it's 1000s of articles. But it's probably in the hundreds of those that are most recent and relevant. Yeah, toprank marketing.com, people obviously can connect with me on the socials, Twitter, LinkedIn, Instagram, to see all the crazy food that I eat and all the running that I'm doing and other thing and travel especially, that's always fun, le e o d, d, e n. Yeah. And that's where we're going to announce our report. And we've got a enterprise brand, influencer marketing report coming out very, very quickly, we have a search intent report that's out already. So lots of fun resources there. And also, I have to say, if you're in the LinkedIn ads audience, if you're not already, you've got to be subscribing to the LinkedIn marketing blog. The LinkedIn ads blog, for sure. Also, in the LinkedIn Collective is another great resource over at LinkedIn. That's a great example of LinkedIn, own thought leadership. And of course, the b2b Institute is another great resource at LinkedIn. And you know, my disclaimer is that yes, LinkedIn is a client. But these are resources I, myself personally, rely on quite a bit. AJ Wilcox Perfect. Well, Lee, thank you so much for sharing your mountain of knowledge here. I'm grateful to get to hear it. Everyone, please go follow Lea, check out the resources that he and his company have come up with Lee, thanks again so much. And we'd love to have you on for around two sometime down the road. Super. Thanks, AJ, I appreciate it. I've got the episode resources for you coming right up. So stick around. Thank you for listening to the LinkedIn Ads Show. Hungry for more? AJ Wilcox, take it away. AJ Wilcox All right, like we talked about with Lee, if you go to his site, top rank marketing.com. And we have links to that down in the show notes. You can get access to everything, all the reports and everything he was talking about. You'll also see his three social media handles there in the show notes, his LinkedIn, his Twitter and his Instagram links. So go follow him stay caught up on what he's doing. He's constantly sharing gold. I'm telling you, if you or anyone you know, is looking to learn more about LinkedIn ads, check out the course that I did on LinkedIn learning all about LinkedIn ads. It's by far the lowest cost and the highest production value course that there is out there. If this is your first time listening, welcome. Thanks for coming. Make sure to hit that subscribe button if you've liked what you've heard. If this is not your first time listening, though, please do go and rate and review us. Usually it's Apple podcasts, but anywhere where you can leave a review. 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Amanda Milligan talks with Jason Barnard about improve your brand authority with newsworthy content. Amanda Milligan is Head of Marketing at Stacker Studio, a new, innovative way for brands to earn media at scale. With more than a decade of experience in content, growth, and brand, her knowledge has been featured in Entrepreneur, Forbes, TechCrunch, Moz, MarketingProfs, Search Engine Land, and more, as well as at conferences like SMX, MozCon, SearchLove, BrightonSEO, State of Search, and Pubcon. To stand out in the competitive content creation market, it is critical to offer content that is unique and newsworthy. Businesses should focus on providing information that adds value and relevance to the lives of their target audience. Creating content that stands out helps brands build authority and credibility in the industry, which in turn can increase discoverability. In this fantastic episode, Amanda Milligan highlights the importance of creating original content that offers a fresh perspective. By working with authoritative sources within the industry, businesses can present information that is both new and credible, which increases their brand's reputation and provides a competitive advantage. Throughout the conversation, Amanda provides examples of different types of newsworthy content, such as case studies and testimonials, that companies can consider for their content strategies. As always, the show ends with passing the baton… Amanda sweetly passes the virtual baton to next week's awesome guest, Gaurav Sharma. What you'll learn from Amanda Milligan 00:00 Amanda Milligan and Jason Barnard  01:46 Creating Newsworthy Content 03:22 Amanda Milligan's Brand SERP on Bing 05:42 Identifying Authoritative Sources 07:54 Repeating Yourself to Educate AI Algorithms 08:30 Stacker's Brand SERP on Google 12:54 Kalicube's Three Solutions for Your Brand SERP 13:53 Brand Authority for Whom 16:19 Originality, Usefulness, and Newsworthiness 19:19 Topical VS Tangential Content 26:27 Combination of Repetition and Authoritativeness 29:26 How Can Newsworthy Content Help with Branded Search? 31:40 Passing the Baton: Amanda Milligan to Gaurav Sharma This episode was recorded live on video May 2nd 2023

Amanda Milligan talks with Jason Barnard about improve your brand authority with newsworthy content. Amanda Milligan is Head of Marketing at Stacker Studio, a new, innovative way for brands to earn media at scale. With more than a decade of experience in content, growth, and brand, her knowledge has been featured in Entrepreneur, Forbes, TechCrunch, Moz, MarketingProfs, Search Engine Land, and more, as well as at conferences like SMX, MozCon, SearchLove, BrightonSEO, State of Search, and Pubcon. To stand out in the competitive content creation market, it is critical to offer content that is unique and newsworthy. Businesses should focus on providing information that adds value and relevance to the lives of their target audience. Creating content that stands out helps brands build authority and credibility in the industry, which in turn can increase discoverability. In this fantastic episode, Amanda Milligan highlights the importance of creating original content that offers a fresh perspective. By working with authoritative sources within the industry, businesses can present information that is both new and credible, which increases their brand's reputation and provides a competitive advantage. Throughout the conversation, Amanda provides examples of different types of newsworthy content, such as case studies and testimonials, that companies can consider for their content strategies. As always, the show ends with passing the baton… Amanda sweetly passes the virtual baton to next week's awesome guest, Gaurav Sharma. What you'll learn from Amanda Milligan 00:00 Amanda Milligan and Jason Barnard  01:46 Creating Newsworthy Content 03:22 Amanda Milligan's Brand SERP on Bing 05:42 Identifying Authoritative Sources 07:54 Repeating Yourself to Educate AI Algorithms 08:30 Stacker's Brand SERP on Google 12:54 Kalicube's Three Solutions for Your Brand SERP 13:53 Brand Authority for Whom 16:19 Originality, Usefulness, and Newsworthiness 19:19 Topical VS Tangential Content 26:27 Combination of Repetition and Authoritativeness 29:26 How Can Newsworthy Content Help with Branded Search? 31:40 Passing the Baton: Amanda Milligan to Gaurav Sharma This episode was recorded live on video May 2nd 2023

In today's world, we are bombarded with information from all sides. As a result, it can be hard to know what is newsworthy and what is not.  Matt Southern and Roger Montti, SEJ's news writers, joined Amanda Zantal-Wiener, Editor-In-Chief at SEJ, to discuss how to determine what is worth following and how to avoid being overwhelmed by the information deluge. These experts talk about information overload, marketing, and data science to share tips on how to stay informed without being overwhelmed. Matt and Roger share their experiences with information overload and how they have learned to manage it. If you are overwhelmed by the information, this episode is for you. We will help you learn how to navigate the information jungle and stay informed without being stressed out.   I filter the information according to what I find interesting professionally and personally and what I think the audience would be interested in. I'm especially interested in things that are novel or under-covered but are essential for people to know. That's one of the reasons why I started covering more of the WordPress stuff as well as Wix. –Roger Montti, 3:14 Covering John Mueller, it's always interesting to decipher what he's trying to say, what he wants to say…he addresses people with the understanding that they have a high level of knowledge of SEO, and that's only sometimes the case for people who can benefit from the information he has to share. So I like to take the data he's sharing, which is usually communicated at a high level, and distill it into smaller parts and try to break it down into a language everyone can understand. –Matt Southern, 18:01 I see breaking news as two things. The first one is the fact: “This happened.” The second part is “What does that mean and how does that impact people?”...So you must balance the speed and being out there with the news and saying, “this happened.” But then we can also revert to what happened, do an article about what it means, and bring in other people who might have interesting insights into it. –Roger Montti, 7:38   [00:00] - Meet Matt & Roger. [01:26] - Understanding information overload. [05:34] - Keeping content timely and relevant amidst rapid news flow. [09:18] - How to strike a balance between reader engagement & SEO rankings. [15:24] - Best practices for tackling inaccurate information. [17:31] - Tips and insights for covering statements from authority figures. [19:56] - Providing the right historical context: A key to effective writing. [23:41] - Should you always credit who covered a topic first? [27:15] - How to avoid falling down a rabbit hole when researching a topic. [33:52] - How to craft compelling personas for better writing. [40:57] - Nerdy conversations: How nerdy is too nerdy? [44:55] - How to keep repetitive topics interesting when writing. [49:35] - The experts' views on the legal drama surrounding generative AI and innovation. [56:24] - How writers are using generative AI: Matt & Roger's perspectives. [58:10] - What our experts are writing about right now.   There are three main factors I focus on when choosing a topic. First is audience interests. Then, industry relevance. And then, I find out where there are some content gaps. To prioritize that information, I considered the overall impact on the readers and the timeliness of how it aligns with our editorial goals. So putting all that together and understanding everyone's needs, what we want to communicate and what the readers want to get out of it and keeping myself informed along the way. –Matt Southern, 6:04 Roger and I have a similar philosophy. We both like short, concise non-click baiting titles. That philosophy satisfies both sides of what we're trying to balance: ranking and audience. With ranking, you want to mention the most important keyword as close to the beginning of the title as possible. If you do that, you're also accomplishing the goal of grabbing the audience's attention. –Matt Southern, 11:59 When I write anything, I focus on the benefit to the reader and what information is beneficial. Sometimes you have to ask how that impacts me. Put yourself in their seat…What do I do as a Content writer or as an SEO? How does that impact them? …When you write about something complicated, you have to slow it out and explain the jargon so that people can follow along can understand why it's important. –Roger Montti, 28:38   For more content like this, subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/searchenginejournal Are you looking to keep up with current and effective digital marketing today? Check out https://www.searchenginejournal.com for everything you need to know within the digital marketing space and improve your skills as an internet marketer.   Connect With Roger Montti: Roger Montti is a seasoned search marketer boasting over 20 years of experience in the field. He has built a solid reputation for expertise and effectiveness by offering site audits, phone consultations, and content and link strategy assistance.  In addition to being a Head Judge for the 2020 and 2021 U.S. Search Awards, Roger is also a publisher of award-winning websites, showcasing his multifaceted talents within the industry. As a prominent figure in search marketing, Roger has shared his insights at various conferences, including SES, SMX East, SMX West, SMX Advanced Seattle, Affiliate Summit NYC, Affiliate Summit West, and multiple PubCon events. In addition, his writing covers various topics, such as WordPress, Facebook, Google, SEO, and search marketing, further establishing him as a thought leader. Connect with Roger on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinibuster/ Follow him on Twitter: https://twitter.com/martinibuster   Connect With Matt Southern: Matt G. Southern, a highly respected Senior News Writer, has been integral to the Search Engine Journal team since 2013. With a bachelor's degree in communications, he excels at distilling complex subjects into clear, engaging content.  In addition to writing, Matt is responsible for overseeing strategy development within SEJ's news department, ensuring that the organization remains at the forefront of the digital marketing and search engine optimization landscape. As a trusted source of information, Matt's work at SEJ combines accuracy, quality, and relevance. His dedication to excellence in reporting and commitment to helping others better understand search engines and digital marketing make him an indispensable asset to SEJ and the broader industry. Connect with Matt on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgsouthern/ Follow him on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MattGSouthern Connect with Amanda Zantal-Wiener, Editor-in-Chief at Search Engine Journal: Follow her on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Amanda_ZW  Connect with her on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandazantalwiener/

Get up to speed with the Digital Marketing News and Updates from the week of Mar 13-17, 2023.1. Meta Launches Paid Verification Program - Meta has announced that it's making its new Meta Verified program available to users in the US, which means that American users will now be able to purchase a blue checkmark on Facebook or Instagram for $US11.99 per month on the web, or $US14.99 in-app, accounting for respective App Store charges. As per the Meta Verified guidelines, you actually need to sign up to each platform separately to get a checkmark on each. Meta Verified requires users to provide photo ID to prove their identity. So you'd be paying at least $US23.98 per month to get a blue tick in both apps, which equates to $US 287.76 per annum to buy the perception of credibility. After verification is complete, you can sign-up to the program which will give you: A verification tick on Facebook or IG Proactive account protection from impersonation Dedicated account support from Meta's team Exclusive stickers for Facebook and Instagram Stories and Facebook Reels 100 Stars a month to allocate to other creators on Facebook Elon Musk is saying “You're Welcome Zuck!”. After all, he is the one who started this trend.P.S: My analysis is in the show.2. Twitter Launches ‘Unskippable' Video Marketing Education Course - Twitter has launched ‘Unskippable', a new, eight-part educational series on video marketing, and how to create video promos that stand out in the Twitter feed. The new series aims to provide a practical overview of all the key elements of thumb-stopping video clips. Each video in the series is around 2 minutes long, making it easily consumable, without a major time investment. The tips and advice in the series come via Twitter's own creative team, which 'helps advertisers produce thousands of top-performing ads on the platform every year'.The new series is part of Twitter's ‘Flight School' education platform, which is available for free, and provides insights into key Twitter advertising best practices.And now may be a good time to test out Twitter ads, since around 70% of Twitter's top advertisers have reportedly stopped or reduced their Twitter spending, as a result of Elon Musk's changes at the app.3. LinkedIn Adds AI-Generated Profile Summaries and Job Listings - LinkedIn's adding a new GPT-powered tool that will provide personalized writing suggestions for creating your LinkedIn profile. To get started, tap on the ‘Start' button, select what you want it to create, and the system will come up with your LinkedIn profile summary, based on your info, and samples from millions of user entries. The system will use OpenAI's GPT models to generate these new summaries, which could make it much easier to put together a good representation of your skills and experience, without you having to come up with a creative way to stand out.LinkedIn's also testing a new AI-powered job description tool, which will make it faster and easier to write job descriptions. Here is what LinkedIn wrote in the announcement: “When you're ready to post a job, simply provide some basic information, including the job title and company name. Our tool will then generate a suggested job description for you to review and edit, saving you time and effort while still giving you the flexibility to customize it to your needs. By streamlining this part of the hiring process, you can focus your energy on more strategic aspects of your job.”4. Microsoft Testing Ads For Doctors & Clinics - Microsoft has announced another vertical ad option for medical professionals named Doctor and Clinic Ads. This is an open beta available in the United States, Australia, India, Germany, France, Canada, and the United Kingdom.Doctor and Clinic Ads are intent-triggered based on search for conditions, symptoms, specialists, and more. These rich placements provide real-time information to consumers and inspire action, all with no keywords required. Bing said they are dynamically generated based on the data you specify in your feed file, such as specialties, locations, and service type—in-person/video. The more details you provide in the feed file, the more information Bing can include in your ads and better match your ads to the user's intent. Other things to know about Doctor & Clinic Ads: The auction for Doctor and Clinic Ads is independent from Text Ads. You can participate in the Doctor and Clinic Ads auction with the campaign associated to your feed file and also participate in the Text Ad auction with your regular campaigns. The Doctor and Clinic Ads auction is cost-per-click (CPC)-based. Feed automation is supported through scheduling to easily keep up with any changes you make. It's Recommend that you start with $100–$500 per day. You can bring your own data in the form of audience lists. With Microsoft Audience Network, healthcare providers can display their ads on a network of trusted websites, apps, and social media platforms. They can also target their ads to specific audiences, such as people interested in health and wellness, or people searching for healthcare services.It's good to see Microsoft/Bing expanding capabilities in their ad offerings. I think Google invests in hiring more offshore reps to try to dupe advertisers into spending more and more, instead of delivering results for advertisers.5. Google: You Should Ignore Spammy Referral Traffic - What should you do if you get a lot of referral traffic from a spammy domain? Well that's exactly what Tom asked Google's John Muller. And to that Google's John Mueller said when it comes to spammy referral traffic, you can ignore it and not worry about it regarding SEO.p.s: If you care to know what & how I feel on this topic then listen/watch the show recording.  6. Google: Writing Content In Less Common Languages Is Not Automatically Low Quality - What do you do if you have a site with pages that contains less common languages? For example Cebuano that is spoken by approximately 22M people.Google's John Mueller said lesser-used or known languages published on the web are not considered low-quality content just because they are lesser known. The page can have words in any language or script, our systems will try to index it appropriately, and try to show it to users who search for those words. It doesn't matter if there's no ISO 639-1 country code for it. If this is good content for a niche audience, I would absolutely *not* remove it from indexing. Good content is good content. Your site won't be "penalized" for content in an obscure language. (But also, thin content is thin content, regardless of which language it's in.)7. Google: Stop Using The Disavow Tool - The link disavow tool has been covered in the past (ep-137: Stop Wasting Your Time By Disavowing Random Links Flagged By Disavow Tools). Thai week, Farhad asked John Muller this question: ”How would an ordinary webmaster or SEO marketing exec know whether or not to spend time disavowing spam links to their domain?”John Muller in response to a disavow link services, said, "Some people do things that they can bill, regardless of whether it's needed or makes sense. To be honest, anyone who does not know, should *not* use it. That's why the tool is not a part of the search console UI. That's why our messaging has been consistently to not use it unless you know there's an actual issue. To paraphrase: When in doubt, leave disavow out." So stop using the link disavow tool unless you have a manual action.Also recently Gary Illyes from Google reiterated his disavow advice saying at PubCon not to use it. He repeated that it hurts more than it helps for the most part.8. Google: Nesting Structured Data Is Always Better - Google's Lizzi Sassman answered a question in a Google SEO Office hours session about whether it's okay to combine different structured data types. Combining multiple structured data is called nesting.She said “Nesting your structure data can help us understand what the main focus of the page is. For example, if you put recipe and review at the same level, it's not as clear as telling us that the page is a recipe with a nested review. This means that the primary purpose of the page would be a recipe and that the review is a smaller component of that.”Her answer illuminated an important point about how Google interprets structured data.  and whether it's better to combine structured data or two separate them out. 9. Google Launches Broad Core Algorithm Update - Google Search has announced that they have rolled out the first broad core update of the 2023 year, and this one is named the March 2023 broad core update. It began on March 15, 2023, at about 10:30 am ET and can take about two weeks to roll out. This is a global update impacting all regions, in all languages. The goal of this update is to reward great web pages so some pages will be bumped off the list. Read below if you want a deeper explanation on what a core update is and what it means for you.Several times a year, Google makes significant, broad changes to their search algorithms and systems. They refer to these as core update. Core updates are designed to ensure that overall, they're delivering on their mission to present helpful and reliable results for searchers through improving how their systems assess content overall. These changes may cause some pages that were previously under-rewarded to do better in search results.One way to think of how a core update operates is to imagine you made a list of the top 100 movies in 2021. A few years later in 2024, you refresh the list. It's going to naturally change. Some new and wonderful movies that never existed before will now be candidates for inclusion. You might also reassess some films and realize they deserved a higher place on the list than they had before. The list will change, and films previously higher on the list that move down aren't bad. There are simply more deserving films that are coming before them.Pages that experience a change after a core update should focus on ensuring it is still offering the best content.  Also consider an audit of the drops you may have experienced. What pages were most impacted and for what types of searches? Look closely at these to understand how these pages may perform against the self-assessment questions. For example, there may be other pages that are doing a better job of helping the searcher because they have first-hand knowledge on that topic. You might also have others you trust (that are unaffiliated with your site) provide an honest assessment. You can also review Google's advice on how to recover from a core update ranking drop.P.S: Like I always say, unless SEO & Search Marketing is your full-time job, work with a reputable agency who can guide you through this process.

Get up to speed with the Digital Marketing News and Updates from the week of Feb 27-Mar 3, 2023.1. PSA: US TikTok Ban Moves a Step Closer - More bad news for TikTok, with the US House Foreign Affairs Committee voted to give President Joe Biden the power to ban the Chinese-owned app, if he deems such a move necessary, amid ongoing security discussions around its potential connection to the Chinese Communist Part (CCP).TikTok responded to the vote by tweeting that “A U.S ban on TikTok is a ban on the export of American culture and values to the billion-plus people who use our  service worldwide…”While Today's announcement doesn't give Biden the full green light to ban the app, with the US Senate still required to give sign-off before a ban could be implemented. But it's another step towards that next stage, which increasingly feels like it will lead to a TikTok ban, or at the least, a significant change in direction for the app.Remember that TikTok, along with 58 other Chinese-created apps, was banned completely in India by the Ministry of Electronics and Information Technology on 29 June 2020. So if you are relying on traffic from TikTok then it is high time you diversify your traffic sources.2. Google Shares How Its Keyword-Matching System For Search Ads Work - Google has released a 28 page comprehensive guide during Google Search Ads Week 2023, providing a unique behind-the-scenes glimpse into its keyword-matching system for search ads.To achieve better results, advertisers can optimise their campaigns by gaining an understanding of Google Ads keyword-matching process.Google's guide provides a comprehensive breakdown of the system, which includes how the company utilises machine learning and natural language understanding technologies to determine keyword eligibility, and how the responsive search ads creative system selects the best-performing creative for users.It is essential to note that grouping keywords is critical to campaign optimisation. By eliminating the need to add the same keyword in multiple match types, advertisers can avoid segmenting and reducing the available data that Smart Bidding can use for optimisation, which can result in fewer conversions and higher costs.The guide is an invaluable resource for anyone seeking to enhance their Google Ads campaigns. Incorporating the insights and best practices outlined in the guide can boost the chances of success and drive more conversions.  This is why I always tell my listeners to work with a reputable learning and growing agency who is in the know. Afterall, you can not make moves or leverage opportunities if you are not in the know.3. Google Ads Is Changing Location Targeting Settings In March 2023 - Starting March 2023, “Search Interest” targeting will no longer be available in Google Ads. Campaigns that use “Search Interest” targeting will be migrated to “Presence or Interest” targeting. These changes will be consistent in Search, Display, Performance Max, and Shopping campaigns. The Presence option lets you show your ads to people who are likely to be located, or regularly located in the locations you've targeted.The Search Interest option lets you show your ads to anyone searching on Google for your targeted location. If a person doesn't specify a location in their search, then the system uses the location where a user is likely to be located for targeting. This option is only available for Search campaigns.So after this change is in effect, a person who lives in Northern VA but often travels to Maryland for shopping or work. While home in VA, the person searches for "plumber near me." Now Google is going to show some Maryland plumbers who are not licensed in VA.  Am I the only one who thinks that the real winner of this change is Google!!4. Google Ads Introduces AI-Powered Search Ads - During the Google's Search Ads Week, a new customer acquisition goal for Search campaigns has been launched globally. This goal utilizes Smart Bidding and first-party data to optimize campaigns and attract new customers during peak periods. According to Google, by combining the new customer acquisition goal with bidding strategies like Maximize conversion value with a target ROAS, advertisers can prioritize and target high-value customers. The new customer acquisition goal has two modes that help you to reach your campaign goals: Value New Customer: Bid higher for new customers than for existing customers New Customers Only: Bid for new customers only. 5. Microsoft Bing's Fabrice Canel : SEO Will Never Be "dead" - Fabrice Canel, the Principal Product Manager for Microsoft Bing, gave a keynote presentation at the Pubcon convention in Austin, Texas. His presentation offered valuable information on optimizing websites for the new Bing search experience as well as shared the benefits of using Bing Webmaster Tools to monitor traffic data and make necessary adjustments to improve visibility in search results.First, Canel suggested to stay with the same SEO playbooks for optimizing content for Bing's AI experience because it's still the early days for AI search. Throughout his keynote at Pubcon, Canel stressed the importance of SEO professionals in guiding Bing's search crawlers to high-quality content.Then Canel emphasized the importance of setting the lastmod tag to the date a page was last modified, not when the sitemap was generated. Remember lastmod was covered in previous episodes in details. ICYMI, the lastmod tag is an HTML attribute indicating when a particular webpage or URL received significant changes. This tag is used in sitemaps to help search engines like Bing understand when a page was last updated. Lastmod also helps searchers identify and access the most up-to-date content available. When a lastmod tag is present, Bing will display the updated date in search results. This signals to searchers that the webpage may have new or updated information they haven't seen yet. According to Canel, 18% of sitemaps have lastmod values not correctly set, typically set to the date and time the sitemap is generated.Thirdly, Canel recommended website to  adopting IndexNow to inform search engines of recent modifications to website content instantly. FYI: IndexNow was covered in episode# 90 (Jan 10-15, 2022). According to Canel, 20 million websites have already adopted IndexNow, and he expects more top websites, search engines, and content management systems to follow suit. Canel adds that manually crawling a webpage to see if its content has changed wastes resources and energy and creates CO2. He also suggests having sitemaps to provide search engines with all relevant URLs and corresponding modification dates.Most importantly, he wanted website owner focus on writing quality content and use semantic markup to convey information about the pages.Lastly, we learned Bing Webmaster Tools will soon include traffic data from Bing's AI chat.6. Google On ‘lastmod' Tag In XML Sitemap - I covered “lastmod” in episode#146. It is back again. Google's John Mueller said on Twitter if you are "providing something new for search engines that you'd like reflected in search," then update the date, if not, then don't. John added, "The issue is more that some CMS's / servers set the lastmod to the current date/time for all pages. This makes that data useless. Good CMS's setting it thoughtfully, even if not always perfect, is much more useful."The current Google documentation says, "Google uses the lastmod value if it's consistently and verifiably (for example by comparing to the last modification of the page) accurate." And according to a recent study at Bing (also covered in episode#146) revealed that among websites with at least one URL indexed by Bing: 58% of hosts have at least one XML sitemap (sitemap known by Bing).84% of these sitemaps have a lastmod attribute set 79% have lastmod values correct.  18% have lastmod values not correctly set.  3% has lastmod values for only some of the URLs. 42% of hosts don't have one XML sitemap (Bing does not know it) P.S: Don't be the business that is skipping the basics and easy to do stuff and looking to do advanced stuff. #DoTheBasics first.7. Google: Don't Combine Site Moves With Other Big Changes - Sometimes businesses make changes to their top-level domain as well as update their website. So Google Search Advocate John Mueller during a recent Search Of The Record Podcast with Gary Illyes, and Senior Technical Writer Lizzi Sassman asked “What happens if I do a domain change, and move from a “.ch”, which is a Swiss top level domain, to “.com”? Is that a problem? Like if I combine a domain change with other stuff?”In response, Illyes, shared that these changes should be done in smaller pieces over months. Making too many changes at once could result in lower rankings and lost traffic. For example, if a website is moving from “example.ch” and “example.fr” to “example.com,” Illyes recommended moving “example.fr” first and waiting before moving “example.ch.”Mueller and Sassman questioned Illyes on why he's so concerned about spreading out site moves. Illyes admitted that many site moves he's been involved with have resulted in lost traffic. Illyes also mentioned that misconfigurations, such as incorrect redirects, are common mistakes that can cause traffic loss. However, traffic shouldn't be lost during a domain change if everything is done correctly.If all you're doing is redirecting URLs from one site to another, there's a low risk for adverse effects. On the other hand, if you do lose rankings and traffic, there's no specific timeframe for a full recovery.8. Google's Gary Illyes: Google Does Not Care Who Authors or Links To The Content - Gary Illyes from Google gave a keynote and a Q&A session at PubCon and while the keynote was pretty vanilla stuff, the Q&A did reconfirm a lot of what has been said in the past around authorship, links and disavowing links. In short, Google does not give too much weight to who writes your content. So if you get a Walt Mossberg to write a piece of content on your site, just because it is Walt, doesn't make it rank well. If the content is written well, it will rank well, but by default, just because Walt wrote it, doesn't make it rank well. Gary also said that links are not as important as SEOs think they are.  And disavowing links is just a waste of time.P.S: All these topics have been covered in the past shows. 9. Google: PageRank Sculpting Is A Myth - Every website is assigned a unique value by the Google PageRank algorithm. This value, also called PageRank, has long been an important factor in link building and link exchange. PageRank sculpting is a technique in which an attempt is made to distribute the PageRank of a website to other subpages. Assuming that the home page receives the highest PageRank because it is the most important within the sites hierarchy, the PageRank will decrease as you go further down into the structure. Before 2009, it was common practice to control the PageRank through sculpting so that only certain pages would benefit. For example, function pages such as the imprint or contact page were linked internally with the attribute “nofollow.” Thus, the link power increased (as measured by PageRank) for the remaining internal links. Unfortunately, some SEO Experts still feel that they can control how Google passes your link equity throughout your site by using the nofollow link attribute. So Google's John Muller said on Twitter that it is an SEO myth to say you can use the nofollow attribute on links sculpt PageRank. Remember, back in 2019 he tweeted that Internal PageRank Sculpting Is A Waste Of Time. Another #SEOMythBusted. I'll file this under #AvoidBadSEOAdvice.10. Check Domain Reputation Before You Buy A Domain - Google's John Mueller was asked about a domain name purchased several months ago but still does not rank well in Google Search. John explained that if a domain has a "long and complicated history." "It's going to be hard to convince search engines that it's something very different & unrelated to what was done in the past decades," John added.In short, he is saying that not only was this domain abusing search engines for a long, long time, but also that the new content on this old domain is not different enough or unrelated enough from what the topic was previously where the search engine would consider it a brand new site and wipe the site clean.Basically the issue here is “domain legacy penalty” - It's a penalty that's associated with a domain from when it was registered by someone else in the past. Apparently the penalty remains after the domain is registered by someone else years later. Which makes sense or else bad actors will keep on transferring domain ownership to bypass the penalty. The way to prevent is to check the past history of a domain name is to visit Archive.org. Archive.org downloads and creates an archive of websites throughout the Internet.A similar issue happened a few years ago to ZDNet. One of their domains was hyphenated (CXO-Talk.com). So they purchased the non-hyphenated variant (CXOTalk.com) from a third party domain auction. ZDNet was unaware that the domain had been used by spammers.  Soon after ZDNet migrated all their content from CXO-Talk.com to CXOTalk.com, their website was banned from Google. ZDNet wrote an article about what happened to them and had the following advice: Before purchasing any domain at auction, be sure to check its history using backlink tools If the domain has a bad history, use Google Webmaster Tools to do a clean-up before putting the domain into service Google's system of problem remediation lacks transparency and responsiveness. They can and should do better. I still don't really know what caused the problem or how to fix it. 11. Should You Rewrite Your Content With ChatGPT? - Google's John Mueller went back and forth on Twitter with some SEO practitioners on the topic of using ChatGPT to (re)write existing content. Basically Ujesh was wondering if he can rewrite his own content with the help of tools like #ChatGPT without losing its helpfulness and relevancy. He was curious to see if it will  reduce the quality of the article due to AI involvement or does it boost the article considering the quality revamp ?To that question, John asked “Why do you need to rewrite your own content? Is it bad?” IMO, this is a fair question.To John's question Paulo replied, “let's say that English is not my main language. Then, I write something in my mother tongue, translate it in my own limited vocabulary, and ask AI to enhance the vocabulary. The content is not bad, but limited by my knowledge of a language, not the topic I'm trying to cover.”And John responded by saying “Why do you want to just publish something for the sake of publishing something, rather than publishing something you know to be useful & good? (This is not unique to LLM/AI NLG, it's the same with unknown-quality human-written content.) What do you want your site known for?”John is saying that, if your content is bad, why are you writing it in the first place? If you know your content is bad, then it is not helpful, will ChatGPT make it helpful for you? How do you know if the ChatGPT version is helpful and quality if your content you originally wrote is not quality? Maybe instead of using ChatGPT to improve the quality of your content, maybe you should focus on topics that you can write quality content about?

Facebook will now remove a post and give up to seven explanations before suspending or banning users. The new policy is a result of analysis and feedback from Meta's Independent Oversight Board. More severe violations still could mean immediate penalties like posting bans and/or account removal.https://about.fb.com/news/2023/02/meta-is-improving-facebooks-penalty-system/ First up Micha Fisher and Masatake Wasa, two mods of the No Dumb Questions SEO group on Facebook joined us to talk about a mass ban event. Last week Micha and Masa and all other mods at No Dumb Questions woke to find their Facebook and Instagram profiles disabled without cause or reason and with little to no help from Facebook. We start with their story.Later in the show, Kristine and Jim are joined by Audience Key founder and Webcology sponsor Tom Rusling as we talk about Pubcon, AI, and the Audience Key content strategy, creation, and deployment tool. (https://audiencekey.com/) Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/webcology/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This was a technical heavy show focusing on talking announcements from Pubcon, Google'sFeb2023 Product Reviews Update, how Bing uses AI content, changes to credentials at Search Console,Russian propagandists exploiting Twitter verification, and the cases in front of the US Supreme Courtthat might threaten Section 260.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/webcology/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Welcome to the What's Next! podcast with Tiffani Bova. I'm excited to share this conversation with Mindy Weinstein who shares her personal philsophy and corporate experience with consumer psychology. Mindy Weinstein is the founder and CEO of Market MindShift, as well as a national speaker, trainer, and digital marketing strategist. She has worked with and trained companies of all sizes. Throughout her career, Mindy has trained such companies as Facebook, The Weather Channel, World Fuel Services, Hampton Products, Putman Media and more. Other digital marketing agencies come to Mindy to learn the latest trends, concepts and methodologies. Mindy has been named as one of the top women in SEO and has presented at such conferences as Digital Summit, Pubcon, SMX, the SEJ Summit and more. She is an Ask the SEO Expert columnist for SearchEngineJournal.com. Mindy has often appeared in the media, with television interviews that aired on Fox, NBC and ABC as well as various other multimedia platforms. Mindy is the author of “The Power of Scarcity: Leveraging Urgency to Influence Customer Decisions” (McGraw Hill). She is also the host of Persuasion in Business, a podcast that dives into a persuasion-related concepts and provides real-world application for businesses.   THIS EPISODE IS PERFECT FOR… anyone in consumer finance, marketing, retails, sales, or really any position that   TODAY'S MAIN MESSAGE… consumer psychology is about understanding and listening the thoughts and perspectives of your customers, so you have to keep an eye on the digital conversations happening on social media and online platforms, but you can't forget about the direct contact modes from the sales team and customer service representatives.     WHAT  I  LOVE  MOST… Scarcity mindset is hardwired into the human mind, but we can harness our basic instincts and use this power for good to build community and make better decisions for ourselves!     Running time: 30:25 Subscribe on iTunes     Find Tiffani on social: Facebook Twitter LinkedIn Instagram   Find Mindy online: Website Facebook Twitter LinkedIn   Mindy's Book: The Power of Scarcity

Dr. Marie Haynes shares her thoughts and insights on the EDGE by looking at the plethora of Google algorithm updates this year. 2022 has seen its fair share of volatility in the SERPs. In addition, she explores ways to identify and track the impacts of algorithm updates on a website, while pointing out many of the culprits responsible for misleading false positives, which may be wrongfully associated with an update. With over 10 years of SEO experience, she's a regular speaker at MozCon, Pubcon, SMX, and Brighton SEO, and a frequent contributor to many industry publications. She's the owner and President of Marie Haynes Consulting. Additionally, Dr. Marie Haynes hosts one of the top SEO podcasts, Search News You Can Use. Time to dive into Google algorithm updates… on the EDGE! Key Segments: [00:02:15] Introducing Dr. Marie Haynes  [00:04:11] Highest Levels of Continued Rank Volatility [00:05:00] Should We Be Focused On Traffic? [00:06:41] Product Review and Core Updates [00:09:11] The Compounding Impacts of Multiple Updates and Diagnoses [00:12:39] EDGE of the Web Sponsor: Site Strategics [00:13:42] Gross Traffic vs. Individual Page Traffic [00:14:32] Transactional vs. Informative Content [00:16:31] Old School SEO [00:18:12] Intent and Relevancy [00:21:41] The Helpful Content Update, Knowledge Graph and Snippets [00:23:32] Not All Traffic Changes Are From Algorithm Updates [00:27:35] MobileMoxie Tracks Historical SERP Snippets [00:28:44] EDGE of the Web Title Sponsor: edgeofthewebradio.com/wix [00:29:37] The Apocalypse! [00:33:16] Questions, Questions and More Questions [00:35:18] External Evidence [00:37:20] AI Content Is Likely Algorithmically Identifiable Follow our Guest: https://twitter.com/Marie_Haynes https://www.mariehaynes.com/seo-newsletter/ https://ca.linkedin.com/in/marie-haynes https://www.mariehaynes.com/ Dr. Marie Haynes' SEO Podcast https://www.mariehaynes.com/seo-newsletter/seo-podcast/ Thanks to our Sponsors! Site Strategics https://www.sitestrategics.com Wix https://edgeofthewebradio.com/wix

If you've listened to this show, you know that I believe we can base all the marketing decisions we make on data. Janet Driscoll-Miller brings over twenty years of search engine marketing experience to Marketing Mojo and is considered a leading expert in her field. Janet has spoken at search engine and marketing conferences including Digital Summit, SMX Advanced, MarketingProfs B2B and Pubcon. Janet is also a frequent guest lecturer at colleges and universities including the University of Virginia and James Madison University. In 2020, she co-authored Data-First Marketing with Julia Lim People/Products/Concepts Mentioned in Show Janet's Agency, Marketing Mojo Janet Driscoll Miller's LinkedIn profile and Twitter profile The book's site: Data-firstmarketing.com Episode Reboot.  Go to the special Page on Marketing Mojo created for Funnel Reboot listeners. For more details, please visit https://funnelreboot.com/episode-103-data-first-marketing-with-janet-driscoll-miller/

Big-picture and detail-oriented, Debbie is a marketing communications specialist who has worked in digital marketing, content development, and social media for over 15 years. A motivated digital marketer, she brings a unique perspective from her brand, agency, and consulting experience. Debbie debuted Social Hospitality as a side project in 2011 before transitioning to the brand full-time in 2017. As founder and president of Social Hospitality, Debbie leads the operational side of the business while working directly with clients to build and execute marketing strategies. Social Hospitality is a boutique digital marketing agency that helps brands develop their online identities, create engaging content, and build their social media presence. The Social Hospitality blog is a leading industry resource, too. Debbie has an English degree from UC Irvine and is HubSpot certified in social media and content marketing. She has been invited to speak at events like Social Tools Summit, PubCon, IABC, as well as various universities and other local organizations. She has been quoted in publications including USA Today, Inc., Forbes, Huffington Post, Social Media Today, Search Engine Journal, Todays Hotelier, Business2Community, SEMrush, and more. Debbie is a lover of good eats and is always adventuring, traveling, learning, and spoiling her two dogs. On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with Debbie about how her boutique destination marketing business Social Hospitality helps clients stand out from the crowd online. She also shares strategies for finding where your customers are online and the importance of understanding and being ready to respond to the changing algorithms of different social media platforms. What You Will Learn in this Episode: How Debbie moved from being an English Major in college to running her own marketing agency Why Debbie loves the collaborative nature of working in destination marketing Current social media trends and some of the new strategies Debbie is recommending to her clients Creativity in the face of adversity and how Debbie has found unusual solutions to recent challenges Debbie shares the many benefits of coopetition and gives examples of coopetition she has experienced and the positive outcomes that came from that Debbie shares her insights and advice for listeners planning a collaboration and explains what she does to set her up for success Where you can connect with Debbie online Standing Out Online In terms of differentiating yourself as a business from the crowd knowing your audience is key. On the show, Debbie describes why you need to look at where your audience hangs out online, and if you're not on a specific channel, but your competition is — you might need to make some changes. Lean into the initial heavy lifting and research and figure out where your audience spends their time and where your competitors spend their time and make sure you're there too. Then you can create those conversations and the stories around what makes you distinct from those competitors. Finding Your Ideal Customer As a hospitality business, or any type of organization in the travel, tourism, or hospitality space, we need to get really focused in on who we're targeting. Because if we don't know who our ideal customer is, we're not going to be effective. Marketers need to tailor strategies to their ideal audience, and one of the ways that you can maximize your chances of developing a great strategy is to do your homework. Debbie also describes how she uses carefully honed strategies to take advantage of current trends in social media, such as Instagram's promotion of the Reels feature. Strategies for Effective Collaboration In the destination marketing space, there are plenty of opportunities for collaboration which are win-win situations. Debbie shares some of the partnerships she is currently involved in and how she has built a network that thrives on supporting one another. She discusses the idea that a rising tide lifts all boats and gives her advice on best practices for planning an effective and mutually beneficial collaboration. Resources: Website: https://socialhospitality.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debbiemiller53/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/thebigdebowski We value your thoughts and feedback and would love to hear from you. Leave us a review on your favorite streaming platform to let us know what you want to hear more of. Here is a quick tutorial on how to leave us a rating and review on iTunes!: https://breaktheicemedia.com/rating-review/

Stephan Spencer has been in the online space for decades; since the 90s and has seen a lot of techniques and companies come and go. Today he joins me to talk about what is tried and true, writing quality content that's worth sharing, building your authority, adding value and revealing light and everything we do. If you are looking for how you can expand your reach, then Stephan is the expert you have been seeking. Join us for this episode and hear Stephan share his personal story of transformation along with his tips for what it takes to make it online.   Meet Stephan Spencer STEPHAN SPENCER is an internationally recognized SEO expert, internet entrepreneur, consultant, and professional speaker. He has keynoted and spoken at hundreds of conferences including American Marketing Association (AMA), Shop.org, Internet Retailer, IRCE, and PubCon. He contributes to a number of marketing journals and blogs, including Search Engine Land, CNET, and more. He currently hosts the Marketing Speak and Get Yourself Optimized podcasts, both of which have appeared in the iTunes New and Noteworthy.   Connect with Stephan: Website: https://www.stephanspencer.com/about/ (https://www.instagram.com/circlelight/) YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/stephanspencer (https://www.youtube.com/stephanspencer) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/stephanspencerseo (https://www.facebook.com/stephanspencerseo)    iflip Invest App: https://iflipinvest.com/ Meet Loral Langemeier: Loral Langemeier is a money expert, sought-after speaker, entrepreneurial thought leader, and best-selling author of five books. Her goal: to change the conversations people have about money worldwide and empower people to become millionaires. The CEO and Founder of Live Out Loud, Inc. – a multinational organization — Loral relentlessly and candidly shares her best advice without hesitation or apology. What sets her apart from other wealth experts is her innate ability to recognize and acknowledge the skills & talents of people, inspiring them to generate wealth. She has created, nurtured, and perfected a 3-5 year strategy to make millions for the “Average Jill and Joe.” To date, she and her team have served thousands of individuals worldwide and created hundreds of millionaires through wealth-building education keynotes, workshops, products, events, programs, and coaching services. Loral is truly dedicated to helping men and women, from all walks of life, to become millionaires AND be able to enjoy time with their families. She is living proof that anyone can have the life of their dreams through hard work, persistence, and getting things done in the face of opposition. As a single mother of two children, she is redefining the possibility for women to have it all and raise their children in an entrepreneurial and financially literate environment.   Links and Resources: Ask Loral App:https://apple.co/3eIgGcX ( https://apple.co/3eIgGcX) Loral on Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/askloral/ ( https://www.facebook.com/askloral/) Loral on YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/user/lorallive/videos ( https://www.youtube.com/user/lorallive/videos) Loral on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/lorallangemeier/ ( https://www.linkedin.com/in/lorallangemeier/) Money Rules:https://integratedwealthsystems.com/money-rules/ ( https://integratedwealthsystems.com/money-rules/) Millionaire Maker Store:https://millionairemakerstore.com/ ( https://millionairemakerstore.com/) Real Money Talks Podcast:https://integratedwealthsystems.com/podcast/ ( https://integratedwealthsystems.com/podcast/) Integrated Wealth Systems:https://integratedwealthsystems.com/ ( https://integratedwealthsystems.com/) Affiliate Sign-Up:https://integratedwealthsystems.com/affiliates ( https://integratedwealthsystems.com/affiliates)   Thanks for listening! Thanks so much for listening to our podcast! If you enjoyed this episode and

My guest on this week's episode of Suds & Search is Zeph Snapp, CEO and Founder at Altura Interactive. Zeph is a veteran digital marketer and an in-demand conference presenter. A few places you might've heard him speak include MozCon, Content Marketing World, and Pubcon. He's also an excellent writer. If you like this interview check out Zeph's column at Search Engine Journal. Altura offers a really interesting service. They provide Spanish digital marketing to international brands. Usually, these brands are growing from the United States into Latin America and need digital marketing expertise along the way. I can tell you from experience that it's hard enough to know SEO in one language. Zeph's agency has a bigger burden. They have to be good at SEO, which is interesting enough, but they also have to overcome communication challenges with stakeholders speaking different languages, they have to be mindful of a zillion little regional language nuances when creating and optimizing content, and there are SEO implications with each decision that they make. It's a fascinating topic and Zeph is an entertaining and engaging guest to take us through it all. Grab something cold to drink and join me for a conversation with Zeph Snapp. We'll talk about how to avoid disaster when launching a website internationally, he'll explain the difference between translation and transcreation, and we'll spend a little time talking about MozCon shenanigans. Catch SearchLab on these platforms: https://www.linkedin.com/company/searchlabdigital/ https://www.facebook.com/SearchLabDigital/ https://twitter.com/SearchLabAgency https://www.youtube.com/c/SearchLabSubscribe to Suds & Search | Interviews With Today's Search Marketing Experts on Soundwise

My guest on this week's episode of Suds & Search is Zeph Snapp, CEO and Founder at Altura Interactive. Zeph is a veteran digital marketer and an in-demand conference presenter. A few places you might've heard him speak include MozCon, Content Marketing World, and Pubcon. He's also an excellent writer. If you like this interview check out Zeph's column at Search Engine Journal. Altura offers a really interesting service. They provide Spanish digital marketing to international brands. Usually, these brands are growing from the United States into Latin America and need digital marketing expertise along the way. I can tell you from experience that it's hard enough to know SEO in one language. Zeph's agency has a bigger burden. They have to be good at SEO, which is interesting enough, but they also have to overcome communication challenges with stakeholders speaking different languages, they have to be mindful of a zillion little regional language nuances when creating and optimizing content, and there are SEO implications with each decision that they make. It's a fascinating topic and Zeph is an entertaining and engaging guest to take us through it all. Grab something cold to drink and join me for a conversation with Zeph Snapp. We'll talk about how to avoid disaster when launching a website internationally, he'll explain the difference between translation and transcreation, and we'll spend a little time talking about MozCon shenanigans. Catch SearchLab on these platforms: https://www.linkedin.com/company/searchlabdigital/ https://www.facebook.com/SearchLabDigital/ https://twitter.com/SearchLabAgency https://www.youtube.com/c/SearchLabSubscribe to Suds & Search | Interviews With Today's Search Marketing Experts on Soundwise

In this episode, we chat with Amanda Milligan about creating newsworthy content. Several of our previous guests have stressed the importance of following the news. Today, we'll discuss how we can use it to create relevant content for your audience that earns future links. Not only will you get some tips from our guest, but you'll also hear from Britt and Jackie on resources that have given them ideas for content. You'll walk away with solid insights on helping your brand build authority and generate press. In this episode you'll learn… How to contextualize the news to fit your brand, no matter what your industry is! Tools and additional resources to help you brainstorm content ideas How you can create evergreen content out of the news Our guest is... Amanda Milligan is the Head of Marketing at Stacker Studio, a data journalism newswire that partners with brands to create and distribute content to their high-authority publisher network, building brand awareness and earning links for their clients. With a degree in journalism and a decade in content marketing, she's spent her career helping brands harness the intersection of content and SEO. Her expertise has been published in Entrepreneur, Forbes, TechCrunch, Search Engine Land, Moz, The Next Web, and more, and she's spoken at industry-leading events, including SMX, MozCon, BrightonSEO, and Pubcon.

For Episode 79 of the Wealth On Any Income Podcast, Rennie is joined by Stephan Spencer. Stephan is an SEO expert, founder of the agency Netconcepts, and bestselling author. He has three books published by O'Reilly: The Art of SEO, Social eCommerce, & Google Power Search. Stephan has optimized the websites of some of the biggest brands in the world, including Chanel, Volvo, Sony, and Zappos. He hosts the podcasts Get Yourself Optimized and Marketing Speak. Let me say it this way, when I say he wrote the book on SEO, I mean he wrote the book that folks like Jay Abraham rely on.In this episode Rennie and Stephan cover:01:52 Stephan's journey to creating the manual for SEO – ‘The Art of SEO'03:12 How his SEO work helps others have a greater impact.04:21 One of Stephan's favorite charities the Impact Network (https://www.impactnetwork.org/) and how he supports them.06:54 Stephan tells a vulnerable story about how his target market has changed.09:06 His biggest “failure” and what he learned from that.12:51 Some of the most common mistakes Stephan's sees relating to SEO.15:38 Stephan's advice about what to do when you get that solicitation stating that a company can get you to rank #1 on google.17:11 The SEO BS Detector and how to get it.18:13 How to get Stephan's SEO Hiring blueprint to help you hire a good, qualified SEO expert.18:53 The self-help book that Stephan is currently working on – Living in a Friendly Universe.Get The SEO BS Detector and the SEO Hiring Blueprint at https://www.stephanspencer.com/resources/#GUIDESMore About StephanStephan Spencer is an internationally recognized SEO expert, internet entrepreneur, consultant, and professional speaker. He has keynoted and spoken at hundreds of conferences including American Marketing Association (AMA), Shop.org, Internet Retailer, IRCE, and PubCon. He contributes to a number of marketing journals and blogs, including Search Engine Land, CNET, and more. He currently hosts the Marketing Speak and Get Yourself Optimized podcasts, both of which have appeared in the iTunes New and Noteworthy. To learn more visit https://www.stephanspencer.comIf you'd like to know how books, movies, and society programs you to be poor, and what the cure is visit wealthonanyincome.com/tedx. You'll hear Rennie's TEDx talk and can request a free 27-page Roadmap to Complete Financial Choice® and receive a weekly email with tips, techniques, or inspiration around your business or money. Rennie's Books and Programshttps://wealthonanyincome.com/books/Rennie's 9 Days to Financial Freedom program:https://wealthonanyincome.com/programsConnect with Rennie Websites:WealthOnAnyIncome.comRennieGabriel.comEmail: Rennie@WealthOnAnyIncome.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/renniegabriel/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WealthOnAnyIncome/Twitter: https://twitter.com/RennieGabrielYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdIkYMOuvzHQqVXe4e_L8PgInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/wealthonanyincome/

My guest on this week's episode of Suds & Search is Jake Bohall, Co-founder of Hive Digital. Jake is a veteran digital marketer, serial entrepreneur, and popular conference presenter. In 2020, Jake's agency Hive Digital won two awards at the US Search Awards. They won the award for Best Small SEO Agency and Best SEO Campaign. I heard Jake speak at Pubcon last spring and I'll start our conversation talking about his presentation which was about sustainable SEO. I will also ask him about its opposite to get a sense of what unsustainable SEO looks like. Jake lives near Raleigh-Durham, North Carolina, a talent-rich area of the country for digital marketers. Last June, Russ Jones passed away unexpectedly and the loss was especially devastating for digital marketers in the Raleigh-Durham area. I'll talk to Jake about his friend and collaborator Russ Jones during this episode. Grab something cold to drink and join me for a conversation with Jake Bohall. We'll talk about how to do link building in a sustainable way, we'll chat about a shift he's noticed in content marketing from being product-focused to more customer-focused, and I'll ask him about a project he did to clean up about 5 million UGC tags from one site. Catch SearchLab on these platforms: https://www.linkedin.com/company/searchlabdigital/ https://www.facebook.com/SearchLabDigital/ https://twitter.com/SearchLabAgency https://www.youtube.com/c/SearchLabSubscribe to Suds & Search | Interviews With Today's Search Marketing Experts on Soundwise

Jim and Dave speak with Navah Hopkins, a search industry veteran, has officially launched her consulting business, Navah Hopkins Consulting, LLC. Bill Hartzer.com reports:Navah is a a highly sought-after paid media and digital marketing strategist with over a decade of empowering brands and the agencies. In her new consulting firm, she plans on providing Digital marketing strategy, Account audits, SAAS product strategy, and General business strategy.In the past, Navah has worked for companies like Adzooma, Justuno, Hennessey Digital, and WordStream. I've known her for years as one of the world's best Paid Media specialists, and I've seen her speak about paid search and paid media at conferences such as Pubcon and State of Search.Navah has a passion for innovation, fueled by a hybrid of strategic partnerships, data analysis, and consumer engagement. She loves connecting people who can mutually benefit each other, leveraging innovation to solve socioeconomic issues, and maintaining bottom line thinking with an ethics driven perspective.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/webcology/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

On Ep. 68 of iPullRank's Rankable Podcast, Garrett Sussman hosts Amanda Milligan, Head of Marketing at Stacker, to discuss the topic of how to create newsworthy content.Amanda Milligan is the Head of Marketing at Stacker, a data journalism newswire that partners with brands to create and distribute content to their high-authority publisher network, building brand awareness and earning links for their clients. With a degree in journalism and a decade in content marketing, she's spent her career helping brands harness the intersection of content and SEO. Her expertise has been published in Entrepreneur, Forbes, TechCrunch, Search Engine Land, Moz, The Next Web, and more, and she's spoken at industry-leading events, including SMX, MozCon, BrightonSEO, and Pubcon. Brand building isn't synonymous with SEO, but it's a critical component of authority and E-A-T signals. Amanda joined us this week to talk about the value of content and brand building outside of SEO, how you can create newsworthy content, and how content can solidify your name in your industry. In this episode, we also covered:What role does data backed journalism play in newsworthy content?What research strategies and resources can a marketer use to develop their content?How to build brand authority through contentIs content syndication a viable strategy in 2022?How do you handle objections around duplicating your content on other networks?

The awesome Amanda Milligan joins me on the show to discuss how to build authority in digital marketing. Amanda Milligan is the Head of Marketing at Stacker, a data journalism platform and newswire that also partners with brands to create and distribute content to build brand awareness and links. With a degree in journalism and a decade in content marketing, she's spent her career helping brands harness the intersection of content and SEO. Her expertise has been published in Entrepreneur, Forbes, TechCrunch, Search Engine Land, Moz, The Next Web, and more, and she's spoken at industry-leading events, including SMX, MozCon, BrightonSEO, and Pubcon. In this episode, we discuss: How to define authority What makes a brand authoritative The value there is in brands seeking to build/grow their authority The common mistakes people make when going through this authority building process How brands with more authority stand out from those who don't What response she would give to a C-suite/senior manager who isn't interested in building authority ...and much more! ** FULL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT AVAILABLE AT https://www.iamazeemdigital.com/blog/amanda-milligan-podcast-interview/* As always, if you enjoyed this, and previous episodes, please like, rate, share, and subscribe to the podcast - it all helps! Useful Links: Podcast Anchor Page: https://anchor.fm/azeemdigitalasks My Twitter page: https://twitter.com/AzeemDigital My website: https://www.iamazeemdigital.com/ Sign up to "The Marginalised Marketer" newsletter: https://www.iamazeemdigital.com/the-marginalised-marketer-newsletter/ Amanda's Twitter: https://twitter.com/millanda

Pubcon Florida took a bit of patience and persistence to be one of the first in-person marketing conferences in 2021. While the pandemic kept us home, Pubcon showed us how digital marketing, brands, and audiences have changed. Digital marketing does not occur in a vacuum. It is a web of constantly evolving components, assets, and influences. For marketers, learning is at the forefront of every role and class is always in session. So it’s a good thing we have Pubcon, a digital marketing conference where consultants and businesses build relationships and learn the latest SEO and PR strategies. In this episode of the Social PR Secrets podcast, Kassie Meiler and Lisa Buyer exchange Pubcon 2021 takeaways. From neuroscience in ad copy to conquering Facebook updates, this year’s keynote speakers expertly tackled all things relating to SEO, content, and Google, and the G.O.A.T. has 13 pages worth of notes ready to be implemented! Meet the G.O.A.T, Kassie Meiler Kassie Meiler’s passion for social media and digital marketing began in high school when she held the webmaster position for her drama club. After completing undergrad at Florida State University, she furthered her education at the University of Florida’s College of Journalism and Communications, where she earned a Master of Arts in Mass Communication. Prior to starting the program, she had already founded Goat Social Media, LLC. In a way, the classes were similar to a practicum course. Kassie readily applied in-class skills to her very own business to increase leads and create engaging content for clients. Kassie’s Pubcon Takeaways Kassie got to soak up a little bit of everything social-related during the three-day conference. And she even reconnected with Lisa who was actually one of her graduate professors at UF. One takeaway made a deep-rooted impression on Kassie. So much so that she implemented the tip to her website almost immediately. Social PR Secret Add media logos on your homepage to indicate publications that you’ve been featured in. Kassie said that many marketers and brand owners don’t realize the amount of content they have in their toolbox. Lisa agreed, adding that when she posted her first 50 SPS episodes it was much easier than expected, having pulled valuable content from previous lectures and media she already had in her back pocket. Roger Dooley on Neuroscience in Ad Copy: Roger explained the liking and unity principle. An example of the Liking Principle would be Tito’s Vodka for Dog People, where they include dogs in ads to appeal specifically to dog owners. The Unity Principle is "liking on steroids." It moves beyond surface-level similarities, promoting the human nature of wanting to belong. Kassie related this to being a Florida State University Seminole and acquiring an attachment to specific on-campus bars or restaurants. Knowing this and

Barry Schwartz talks with Jason Barnrad about the history of google updates big and small. Barry Schwartz is a technologist, search geek, CEO of RustyBrick, founder of Search Engine Roundtable and also a news editor at Search Engine Land. He speaks at many search marketing conferences and technology events like Search Marketing Expo, Search Engine Strategies, Pubcon, etc. And provides an advisory role to expert SEOs, internet companies and startups. He also loves to spend the first hours of his morning writing super advanced SEM topics. Barry takes us on a stroll down the history of Google updates from 2002 to the most recent updates in June and July 2021. Year by year, Barry and Jason go through the significant changes in Google Search, what they changed and how they affected the work and lives of SEOs. Throughout, on message comes through - this is a ongoing process that aims to make Google Search results more relevant, helpful and spam-free for Google's users. Barry and Jason provide wonderful explanations of each of these updates plus great insights on how SEOs and website owners were able to fix their drops in rankings. Google Toolbar — December 1, 2000 Dancing The Google Dance — September 1, 2002 Universal Search  —  May 1, 2007 Caffeine  —  June 1, 2010 Panda/Farmer  —  February 23, 2011 The +1 Button  —  March 30, 2011 Penguin  —  April 24, 2012 Exact-Match Domain (EMD) Update  —  September 27, 2012 "Phantom"  —  May 9, 2013 "Fred" (Unconfirmed)  —  March 8, 2017 Hummingbird  —  August 20, 2013 Page Experience Update  —  June 25, 2021 What you'll learn from Barry Schwartz This is a list that explains each update we discussed (and some more that we didn't) so that you have some context, especially for the timestamps. https://moz.com/google-algorithm-change 00:00 Barry Schwartz and Jason Barnard00:46 Barry Schwartz's Brand SERP03:19 The Google Toolbar and and the days of the Google Dance06:00 We no longer wait for Panda updates because Google's goal is make it real-time07:13 When do knowledge panels and knowledge graphs change?10:23 2007 Google introduced Universal Search - not your typical algorithm update12:12 Faster crawling and indexation - the Caffeine update14:31 The failure of Google Plus - will Google try again?16:02 What's the difference between Panda and Penguin updates?20:02 The Exact Match Domain update22:39 RustyBrick, where did the name come from?23:27 The mystery behind the Phantom and Fred updates24:48 Clearing up some misconceptions about the Hummingbird update29:13 Core Web Vitals have little-to-no influence on rankings32:10 Crazy daily numbers of never-before-seen pages for GoogleBot34:16 What Google wants you to do when you've been hit by core updates41:06 How does Barry find the time to do everything he does? This episode was recorded live on video July 27th 2021 Recorded live at Kalicube Tuesdays (Digital Marketing Livestream Event Series). Watch the video now >>

Barry Schwartz talks with Jason Barnrad about the history of google updates big and small. Barry Schwartz is a technologist, search geek, CEO of RustyBrick, founder of Search Engine Roundtable and also a news editor at Search Engine Land. He speaks at many search marketing conferences and technology events like Search Marketing Expo, Search Engine Strategies, Pubcon, etc. And provides an advisory role to expert SEOs, internet companies and startups. He also loves to spend the first hours of his morning writing super advanced SEM topics. Barry takes us on a stroll down the history of Google updates from 2002 to the most recent updates in June and July 2021. Year by year, Barry and Jason go through the significant changes in Google Search, what they changed and how they affected the work and lives of SEOs. Throughout, on message comes through - this is a ongoing process that aims to make Google Search results more relevant, helpful and spam-free for Google's users. Barry and Jason provide wonderful explanations of each of these updates plus great insights on how SEOs and website owners were able to fix their drops in rankings. Google Toolbar — December 1, 2000 Dancing The Google Dance — September 1, 2002 Universal Search  —  May 1, 2007 Caffeine  —  June 1, 2010 Panda/Farmer  —  February 23, 2011 The +1 Button  —  March 30, 2011 Penguin  —  April 24, 2012 Exact-Match Domain (EMD) Update  —  September 27, 2012 "Phantom"  —  May 9, 2013 "Fred" (Unconfirmed)  —  March 8, 2017 Hummingbird  —  August 20, 2013 Page Experience Update  —  June 25, 2021 What you'll learn from Barry Schwartz This is a list that explains each update we discussed (and some more that we didn't) so that you have some context, especially for the timestamps. https://moz.com/google-algorithm-change 00:00 Barry Schwartz and Jason Barnard00:46 Barry Schwartz's Brand SERP03:19 The Google Toolbar and and the days of the Google Dance06:00 We no longer wait for Panda updates because Google's goal is make it real-time07:13 When do knowledge panels and knowledge graphs change?10:23 2007 Google introduced Universal Search - not your typical algorithm update12:12 Faster crawling and indexation - the Caffeine update14:31 The failure of Google Plus - will Google try again?16:02 What's the difference between Panda and Penguin updates?20:02 The Exact Match Domain update22:39 RustyBrick, where did the name come from?23:27 The mystery behind the Phantom and Fred updates24:48 Clearing up some misconceptions about the Hummingbird update29:13 Core Web Vitals have little-to-no influence on rankings32:10 Crazy daily numbers of never-before-seen pages for GoogleBot34:16 What Google wants you to do when you've been hit by core updates41:06 How does Barry find the time to do everything he does? This episode was recorded live on video July 27th 2021 Recorded live at Kalicube Tuesdays (Digital Marketing Livestream Event Series). Watch the video now >>

Jason Barnard (the Brand SERP Guy) is a digital marketer who specializes in brand SERP optimization and knowledge panel management. SERP means search engine results page. Brand SERP refers to how your business or organization appears when someone Google's your brand name.Company:Jason Barnard is the founder and CEO at Kalicube – a groundbreaking digital marketing agency that, through the Kalicube Pro SaaS platform, helps clients optimize their Brand SERP and manage their knowledge panel.Author:Jason is a regular contributor to leading digital marketing publications such as Search Engine Journal and Search Engine Land and regular guest on others such as Wordlift, SE Ranking, SEMrush, Search Engine Watch, Searchmetrics, and Trustpilot.Speaker:Jason regularly gives conferences at major marketing conferences worldwide including BrightonSEO, PubCon, SMX series, and YoastCon.Podcast Host:Spanning 3 seasons, "With Jason Barnard" has become a staple podcast for digital marketers. The conversations are always intelligent, always interesting, and always fun! Guests include Rand Fishkin, Barry Schwartz, Eric Enge, Joost de Valk, Aleyda Solis, Bill Slawski. Over 180 episodes are available!If you are looking for help with your SEO strategy or need your brand refreshed, contact us at:https://nerdbrandagency.com/contact-us/=====About The NerdBrand PodcastThe NerdBrand Podcast is the intersection of nerd culture, branding, and  marketing. Nerd culture is no longer a reserved sub-culture; it's  mainstream pop culture.  Listen as we discuss our views on branding and advertising, always with a  touch of nerd — technology, movies, comics and novels, video games, and  plenty more.Find more at https://nerdbrandagency.com/podcast  =====  About NerdBrandNerdBrand is a data-driven branding, web design, and advertising agency based in Louisville, KY. From establishing your brand identity to guiding your day-to-day marketing strategies, we bring the "why" of your business to life.Learn more at https://nerdbrandagency.comConnect with NerdBrand LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/nerdbrandagency Facebook: https://facebook.com/nerdbrandagency Instagram: https://instagram.com/nerdbrandagency Twitter: https://twitter.com/nerdbrandagency--- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app--- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/nerdbrand/messageSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/nerdbrand/support

Today, Seth is joined by Brett Tabke, the founder and CEO of PubCon. Brett announces the exciting news that PubCon will be back in person on August 3rd - 5th for its conference in Florida! The two discuss the history of the conference and how it has grown to become a “must-attend” event for SEO marketers and practitioners, whether they're advanced or just starting out in the industry. Brett also gives his insight on how PubCon curates and fine tunes their selections for speakers to make sure that attendees get the absolute most out of the experience! Seth and Brett continue the discussion by looking at future changes we may soon see in the digital marketing world and government's potential influence on it.To view all SEO Insider episodes, visit: https://blusharkdigital.com/seo-insider/PubCon: https://www.pubcon.com/For more helpful tips on legal SEO, check out BluShark's other channels:WEBSITE: https://blusharkdigital.com/FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/blusharkdigitalTWITTER: https://twitter.com/blusharkdigitalLINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/company/blushark-digital/INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/blusharkdigitalBluShark Digital LLC was founded to lift the confusion around search engine optimization (SEO) by providing businesses with innovative, transparent, and successful solutions to help them stand out with their online presence. Click below to learn what clients have to say about their partnerships with BluShark.

Casie Gillette talks with Jason Barnard about content marketing Casie Gillette - Director of Online Marketing at Komarketing – is a digital marketing strategy expert with nearly 20 years of experience, and speaker at top marketing conferences such as SMX, Pubcon and MozCon.  She joined Jason Barnard to discuss the role of technology in Content Marketing and Customer Experience, and how we can use it to better understand our audience.  Casie shares invaluable insights on how to take advantage of the vast amounts of information that Google divulges about our audiences… but also how to stand out and make a difference in our customers' experience by adding a human aspect. You will also learn a very effective content creation strategy that most of the companies fail to implement, and much more! Finally, a bonus: You'll see the coolest dog just chillin' in the background with Casie (the podcast ends when s/he starts eating the table leg ;) What you'll learn from Casie Gillette 00:00 Casie Gillette with Jason Barnard01:18 Casie's Brand SERP03:57 Does technology make Content Marketing and Customer Experience easier?09:42 Identifying the sites ranking the most in your industry for content strategy11:16 Relying on technology vs examining your Brand SERP for audience insights15:32 The importance of the human aspect when understanding your audience21:15 Taking the offline online in your content strategy24:08 What's a good content creation process for a company?30:01 Creating video content35:56 Technology as a vehicle to understanding our audience Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe here >> This episode was recorded live on video March 30th 2021 Recorded live at Kalicube Tuesdays (Digital Marketing Livestream Event Series). Watch the video now >>

Casie Gillette talks with Jason Barnard about content marketing Casie Gillette - Director of Online Marketing at Komarketing – is a digital marketing strategy expert with nearly 20 years of experience, and speaker at top marketing conferences such as SMX, Pubcon and MozCon.  She joined Jason Barnard to discuss the role of technology in Content Marketing and Customer Experience, and how we can use it to better understand our audience.  Casie shares invaluable insights on how to take advantage of the vast amounts of information that Google divulges about our audiences… but also how to stand out and make a difference in our customers' experience by adding a human aspect. You will also learn a very effective content creation strategy that most of the companies fail to implement, and much more! Finally, a bonus: You'll see the coolest dog just chillin' in the background with Casie (the podcast ends when s/he starts eating the table leg ;) What you'll learn from Casie Gillette 00:00 Casie Gillette with Jason Barnard01:18 Casie's Brand SERP03:57 Does technology make Content Marketing and Customer Experience easier?09:42 Identifying the sites ranking the most in your industry for content strategy11:16 Relying on technology vs examining your Brand SERP for audience insights15:32 The importance of the human aspect when understanding your audience21:15 Taking the offline online in your content strategy24:08 What's a good content creation process for a company?30:01 Creating video content35:56 Technology as a vehicle to understanding our audience Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe here >> This episode was recorded live on video March 30th 2021 Recorded live at Kalicube Tuesdays (Digital Marketing Livestream Event Series). Watch the video now >>

If you are a local business and public relations is not part of your digital marketing strategy, think again. In this episode, Lisa Buyer walks you through her recent presentation when she spoke at the Pubcon 2021 local search marketing conference. Whether you are a hair salon, lawyer, plumber, restaurant, or any other local service that live-n-thrives on the map, this multi-day conference was a virtual hot for local brands looking for the latest secrets to digital marketing success. Pubcon’s conference covered topics ranging from Google My Business to local link building, content marketing, local search advertising, and local public relation. Lisa Buyer walks you through highlights of her session including Local Press/Publicity by definition and point of view Earned media More credibility than advertising 3rd party endorsement Social proof Brand awareness Editorial coverage Steps to DIY Public Relations Identify your audience List 3-5 media outlets they read Brainstorm angles Find the right editor/producer Follow them on social Create a short + personalized pitch Offer your expertise/POV Rinse and Repeat 2x a month The Anatomy of a PR Media Kit Bios Headshots Fact Sheet Video Topics of expertise Website/newsroom Media contact Strong Visuals

In my 9th episode I speak to Brent Dykes Sr. Director, Insights & Data Storytelling at Blast Analytics, and author of the book Effective Data Storytelling. We talk about: 1) The definition of Data Storytelling 2) The three Star Trek characters 3) The difference between data literacy and data storytelling 4) The data storytelling arc 5) Education and how data storytelling needs to be introduced into schools About Brent: Brent Dykes is the Senior Director of Insights and Data Storytelling at Blast Analytics. He is also the author of Effective Data Storytelling: How to Drive Change with Data, Narrative, and Visuals. Brent has more than 15 years of enterprise analytics experience at Omniture, Adobe, and Domo. His passion for data strategy and data storytelling comes from consulting with many industry leaders including Nike, Microsoft, Sony, and Comcast. He is a regular Forbes contributor and has written more than 35 articles on different data-related topics. In 2016, Brent received the Most Influential Industry Contributor Award from the Digital Analytics Association (DAA). He is a popular speaker at conferences such as Strata, Web Summit, Shop.org, Adtech, Pubcon, RISE, Crunch, and Adobe Summit. Brent holds an MBA from Brigham Young University and a BBA in marketing from Simon Fraser University. About Samir: Samir is a data strategy and analytics leader, CEO and Founder of datazuum. He has a history of helping data executives and leaders craft and execute their data strategies. His passion for data strategy led him to launch the Data Accelerator Workshop, and host the Data Strategy Show. After a career in both private and public sectors Samir launched the datazuum brand in 2012, with a view to working with executives to deliver data strategy at a time when data was not seen as a business asset. Today datazuum delivers projects across both private and public sectors including: Charities, Financial Services (Banking & Insurance), Government, Housing & Construction, Law Enforcement, Logistics, Media & Publishing, Outsourcing, Postal, Retail, Telecoms, Transport and Utilities. Samir has 20 years of international experience across Europe, North America, and Africa. Is a regular speaker at international conferences, coach / mentor, a charity fundraiser, and youth champion for Working Knowledge - supporting young people to achieve their personal and career goals in life. Samir lives in London with his wife and daughter. Contact details for Samir LinkedIn: Samir Sharma Email: samir@datazuum.com website: www.datazuum.com

Since his days on the frontlines of crisis management on 9/11 for American Airlines to navigate the digital communications during Covid-19, Tony Wright has expertly positioned himself to be one of the most respected experts in reputation management in this digital era. Maintaining a brand’s online reputation is one the most valuable public relations assets; just ask Pubcon speaker and reputation management expert Tony Wright. Reputation Management Secrets During COVID-19 In this episode of Social PR Secrets, Lisa Buyer and Tony Wright explore reputation management strategies during a pandemic and discuss how perception is critical for your company to succeed online. COVID-19 has single-handedly reshaped the world as we know it and has impacted all forms of businesses, large and small. Maintaining a positive reputation for your brand during a global health crisis is critical for short- and long-term success. It is essential to demonstrate to potential customers the strength and stability of your company. Tony recommends adding a note on your Google My Business listing regarding how your business handles the current pandemic. Also, protocol communication is of utmost importance to ensure staff and customers remain informed and safe. Tony discusses how businesses should have a crisis communication strategy and reiterate sanitization processes, increased cleansing and disinfecting efforts. Brands should over-communicate other practical measures to protect staff and customers, such as face masks and providing hand sanitizing dispensers at your place of business. Safety is paramount, and a company’s reputation is more important than ever before. All in all, it is essential to monitor the situation daily, communicate with staff, and take action when necessary. Tune in to learn about additional COVID-19 reputation management strategies that will keep your business top of mind for your loyal customers. Reputation Management Secrets by Tony Wright Reputation management is an essential component of any business venture. By definition, reputation management is the effort to influence or control how people perceive a brand or company. Tony discusses how bad reviews online impact small and medium-sized businesses more than larger enterprises. “The littlest slip up on social media can turn into a PR or reputation management nightmare.” – Tony Wright In this episode, Lisa and Tony dive into the different reputation management levels based on the company’s size. Discover how to combat a bad reputation to create a better one than ever before. Protecting Your Company on Search Engine Results Tune in for strategies and tactics that B2B companies can use to protect their website and brand in search results. Tony states the first approach is to monitor what’s going on accurately with your

If you’re going to run social media for a brand, what’s the most critical thing for you to know? According to Melissa Fach, it’s absolutely essential to find out the brand’s core values first! In this blast from the past episode of the Social PR Secrets Podcast, Lisa Buyer sits down with social media expert Melissa Fach to get her advice on how to navigate public interaction as the face of a company via social platforms. If you’re looking to improve a brand’s image, or simply avoid tanking it, Melissa is the person you turn to. Melissa is a social savat. She handled the community for Moz, Pubcon and AuthorityLabs for years. She is now the US blog editor of SEMrush and the founder of SEO Aware, a consulting agency. In this episode, Melissa and Lisa discuss the importance of promptness when interacting with your customers via social media, why customer service online is even more delicate than face-to-face interactions, why a brand’s values are so imperative to their social media success and tips to avoid making viral mishaps. Melissa reveals her tips for dealing with angry customers. How should you deal with trolls? How can you help the people lobbing criticism via furious tweets? Listen to this episode to learn Melissa’s guide to ensuring every customer walks away from an interaction feeling positive about your brand! “The big thing is if you answer the wrong way or offend the wrong person you can actually take down a company ” - Melissa Fach Some topics discussed in this episode include: Why answering customers immediately is essential Melissa’s position at Moz The importance of a brand’s core values TAGFEE Why there’s no longer room for excuses in customer service How Melissa’s education in psychology helps her work How to avoid Twitter catastrophes Melissa’s tips for dealing with angry customers Advice for those entering the social media field Contact Melissa Fach: http://melissafach.com Melissa’s Twitter Melissa’s Instagram Melissa’s LinkedIn Melissa’s Facebook Melissa’s personality Pinterest More from Melissa: Melissa’s company - SEO Aware Melissa’s consulting services Corporate training Melissa’s blog References and links mentioned: Moz Twitter Wordpress Google Hangouts Subscribe to & Review Social PR Secrets Podcast Thanks for tuning into this week’s episode of the Social PR Secrets podcast by Lisa Buyer. If the information in this show’s interview inspired you in your business or life journey, feel free to head over to iTunes, subsc

About This Episode: Today's guest has Consulted for Golden State Warriors… Aggregated 120 Billion Impressions on Facebook for a massive case study… AND Once ran a 70 mile marathon. Dennis Yu is the Chief Technology Officer of BlitzMetrics, a digital marketing company which partners with schools to train young adults. Dennis's program centers around mentorship, helping students grow their expertise to manage social campaigns for enterprise clients like The Golden State Warriors, Nike, and Rosetta Stone. He's an internationally recognized lecturer in Facebook Marketing and has spoken in 17 countries, spanning 5 continents, including keynotes at L2E, PubCon, Conversion Conference, and Marketo Summit.   Find out more about Dennis at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dennisyu/ dennis@blitzmetrics.com   See the Show Notes: www.jeremyryanslate.com/587   Sponsors: Command Your Brand Media: Looking to grow your brand as a guest on top rated podcasts? Visit www.commandyourbrand.media Audible: Get a free 30 day free trial and 1 free audiobook from thousands of available books. Right now I'm reading "Blow Back," by Brad Thor head over to www.jeremyryanslate.com/book 

Larry Kim: Founder of MobileMonkey & WordStream Larry Kim is the founder and CEO of MobileMonkey, the world's best Facebook Messenger marketing platform. He's been named Search Marketer of the Year from PPC Hero (2013, 2014, 2015, and 2017), Search Engine Land, and the US Search Awards. Larry is ranked the #8 most popular author on Medium. He's a contributor to CNBC and Inc. Magazine. He's a notable expert on Facebook Messenger chatbot marketing, Google Ads, Facebook Ads, entrepreneurship and start-ups. Larry founded MobileMonkey to give marketers the opportunity to connect with customers on the most popular mobile chat application, Facebook Messenger, used by over a billion people every day. MobileMonkey is an easy to use and free platform for building powerful Facebook Messenger marketing chatbots, no coding required. Larry is also the founder and former CTO of WordStream, Inc., the leading provider of AdWords, Facebook and keyword tools used by over a million marketers worldwide. The company employs more than three hundred people and manages billions of dollars of ad spend on behalf of tens of thousands of customers. WordStream was acquired by Gannett, parent company of USA TODAY, for $150 million in July, 2018. Larry believes in active participation in the digital marketing community, which is why he speaks at conferences across the country and internationally each year, including Dreamforce, INBOUND, PubCon, SMX, SearchLove, Social Media Marketing World, and hundreds of others.  He also shares his knowledge as a prolific author for widely read marketing publications including the WordStream Blog, Search Engine Land, Search Engine Journal, Social Media Today, Social Media Examiner, Moz Blog, @Search Engine Watch, Business Insider, and many others.  He frequently publishes his research, findings and experience in the areas of chatbot marketing, PPC marketing, AdWords, Facebook Ads, and SEO, as well as entrepreneurship and start-ups. Larry holds a degree in Electrical Engineering from the University of Waterloo. Watch the full episode here: https://projectegg.co/larry-kim About The Project EGG Show: The Project EGG Show is a video talk show that introduces you to entrepreneurs from around the world. It is broadcast from studios in Metairie, Louisiana to online platforms including YouTube, iTunes, Google Play, Spotify and Stitcher, and hosted by Ben Gothard. Our goal is to give you a fresh, unscripted and unedited look into the lives of real entrepreneurs from around the globe. From billionaires to New York Times best selling authors to Emmy Award winners to Forbes 30 Under 30 recipients to TEDx speakers – we present their real stories – uncensored and uncut. Subscribe To The Show: https://projectegg.co/podcast/ Get Access To: 1. Resources: https://projectegg.co/resources/ 2. Financing Solutions: https://projectegg.co/epoch/ 3. Payment Solutions: https://projectegg.co/sempr/ 4. Services: https://projectegg.co/resources#services 5. Courses: https://projectegg.co/resources#courses 6. Software: https://projectegg.co/resources#software 7. Book: https://projectegg.co/resources#books --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/projectegg/support

This week Paul and JD record from PubCon and bring along marketing gurus, Emma Franks from Hanapin and AJ Wilcox from B2Linked. Sure we did the headlines but we also laughed a lot! Google average position is going away, AdX auction is changing, Facebook working on blockchain, Pinterest adds product feed-based ads, Twitter has new video analytics and more! --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/the-ppc-show-podcast/message

Today's Flash Back Friday comes from Episode 163, originally published in August 2014. Brian Carter is the Founder of the Brian Carter Group. He joins the show to discuss how Facebook can revolutionize an organization if they use it effectively.  Brian Carter is respected as one of the elite internet marketing experts in the world. His hands-on business experience, cutting edge insights, background in improv and stand up comedy culminate in a speaker and trainer who leaves every audience not only entertained, but armed with powerful strategies and tactics. Brian is co-author of the bestselling book Facebook Marketing, and author of the forthcoming book, The Like Economy. He also has authored an ebook called How To Get More Fans On Facebook. Brian has 12 years experience with Google, Twitter and Facebook marketing, both as a consultant and marketing agency director. He has trained and managed Gen X and Gen Y employees, in addition to the more than 5,000 students of his FanReach Facebook marketing online course. Brian develops strategies and builds search visibility and social marketing fanbases for companies of all sizes, including well known entities such as Universal Studios, The U.S. Army, Hardee's and Carl's Jr. He is quoted in the book Twitter Marketing For Dummies and has been quoted and profiled by Information Week, U.S. News & World Report, The Wall Street Journal, and Entrepreneur Magazine. Brian writes for two of the most popular marketing blogs, Search Engine Journal and AllFacebook with a combined readership of over 400,000. He has more than 30,000 Twitter followers and an overall reach of more than 50,000 fans through Facebook, LinkedIn, and his other social marketing channels. A speaker and trainer for top marketing conferences such as SEOmoz, SMX, Pubcon, The AllFacebook Expo, Socialize, The South Carolina Society of Association Executives and The American Marketing Association to name a few. Brian is a seasoned expert and most entertaining presenter in Internet marketing. Website: www.BrianCarterGroup.com

Today's guest has Consulted for Golden State Warriors... Aggregated 120 Billion Impressions on Facebook for a massive case study…  AND Once ran a 70 mile marathon. Dennis Yu is the Chief Technology Officer of BlitzMetrics, a digital marketing company which partners with schools to train young adults. Dennis's program centers around mentorship, helping students grow their expertise to manage social campaigns for enterprise clients like The Golden State Warriors, Nike, and Rosetta Stone. He's an internationally recognized lecturer in Facebook Marketing and has spoken in 17 countries, spanning 5 continents, including keynotes at L2E, PubCon, Conversion Conference, and Marketo Summit.

Listeners know we have had the Mueller Files for a while now, well… it's time for the Illyes Files to make its presence known. This is because Gary Illyes of Google was the bearer of a ton of news at this year's PubCon. That news includes Google Search Switching to Mobile First Index from Desktop Index, Machine Learning Will Never Take Over the Whole Search Algorithm and more.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

James Loomstein is co-founder of Rogue Marketing in Dallas, Texas, a college professor, and regular speaker at digital marketing conferences such as Pubcon. James talks indepth about marketing, project management, […] The post 007 What You Need to Know to Grow – James Loomstein of Rogue Marketing appeared first on The Creative Agency Podcast.