Podcast appearances and mentions of Marshall Goldsmith

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How can you go from just being a leader to being a truly inspirational leader? To transition from merely being a leader to one who truly inspires, it is necessary to understand the dynamics of influence and impact. Dr. Marshall Goldsmith, a luminary in the realm of leadership and executive coaching, discusses key principles that can facilitate this transformation. It starts with recognizing the power of intentionality in communication and decision-making. Inspirational leaders, as Marshall highlights, pause to consider whether their actions align with the goal of making a positive difference. In this episode of The Greatness Machine, Darius is joined by Marshall to delve into the nuances of effective leadership. Through insightful anecdotes and practical wisdom, Marshall elucidates the importance of making a positive difference, fostering trust, and embracing self-awareness on the journey toward greatness in leadership. Topics include: Influencing decisions through understanding and addressing the needs of others Making positive difference rather than proving oneself right The crucial role of honoring other people's perspectives Embracing the uncertainties in business and being open to other possibilities Being ready to adapt and willing to acknowledge mistakes Being cautious about out-of-hours emails or messages The importance of purposeful communication Recognizing and de-stigmatizing self-interest in business Encouraging long-term planning but understanding the practical challenges And other topics… Sponsored by:  Indeed: Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/darius. Shopify: Start your $1/month trial at Shopify.com/greatness. Brevo: Head over to brevo.com/greatness and use the code greatness to get 50% off Starter and Standard Plans for the first 3 months of an annual subscription. Masterclass: Get 15% off any annual membership at MasterClass.com/DARIUS. Connect with Marshall: Website: https://marshallgoldsmith.com/ Website: https://marshallgoldsmith.ai/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marshallgoldsmith Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coachgoldsmith/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/coachgoldsmith/ Connect with Darius: Website: https://therealdarius.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dariusmirshahzadeh/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/imthedarius/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Thegreatnessmachine  Book: The Core Value Equation https://www.amazon.com/Core-Value-Equation-Framework-Limitless/dp/1544506708 Write a review for The Greatness Machine using this link: https://ratethispodcast.com/spreadinggreatness.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Todd Cherches is the CEO and co-founder of BigBlueGumball, a NYC-based leadership and executive coaching firm. He is a member of Marshall Goldsmith's “MG 100 Coaches,” a three-time award-winning adjunct professor of leadership at NYU, a lecturer on leadership at Columbia University, a TEDx speaker, and the author of the groundbreaking book, "VisuaLeadership: Leveraging the Power of Visual Thinking in Leadership and in Life."In today's episode of Smashing the Plateau, you will learn how to leverage relationships, community, and visual thinking to build a thriving business after leaving the corporate world.Todd and I discuss:What led Todd to start his own business [02:47]Key challenges in balancing business development and client work [03:32]The importance of relationships and community for business growth [04:21]How teaching, speaking, and content creation fuel relationship building [05:22]Keeping relationships warm over time—especially for introverts [06:36]Using LinkedIn to nurture your network [06:36]The power of metaphors, analogies, and visual leadership for entrepreneurs [10:16]Four ways to communicate ideas visually [11:14]How visual thinking helps corporate refugees stand out [15:53]Becoming a resource for organizations in a VUCA world [16:55]Todd's “four G's” philosophy for leadership and community [22:14]How to start building your network and why it's never too late [24:19]Learn more about Todd at:https://www.toddcherches.com/https://www.amazon.com/VisuaLeadership-Leveraging-Visual-Thinking-Leadership/dp/1642933376https://www.linkedin.com/in/toddcherches/Thank you to our sponsor:The Smashing the Plateau CommunityReady to level up? Subscribe for exclusive tips and strategies to drive your success forward!

From Army Artillery Officer to Managing Director in Consulting Lauren Kordzik, Principal at Cameron-Brooks, sat down with Cameron-Brooks alum Pat Curran to discuss his leadership journey from the military to consulting. When Pat left the Army in 2013, he had a strong operations background and years of leading teams under pressure. After active duty, Pat started his business career at EMCOR and later continued to grow his career at CBRE and through his MBA at Penn State. Today, he serves as Managing Director at Greencastle Associates, a 100% veteran-owned consulting firm. While Pat relied on his leadership skills from the Army, Pat emphasized the importance of continuous growth and improvement. Below are some key highlights from the conversation as well as Pat's advice for evolving as a leader. Building a Leadership Style for Business When reflecting on how he adjusted his leadership style, Pat shared a few key tips: Balance confidence and humility. Know what you bring to the table, but stay open to learning. Lead from the trenches. Build trust through what you do, not just your title. Be transparent. Be willing to admit mistakes and work with people, not above them. Evolve how you lead. Command structure works in the military. In business, influence, collaboration, and reading the room matter more. In addition to advice about leadership style, Pat has advice for the aspiring consultant. Advice for Building a Career in Consulting For those looking to one day be a managing director in consulting, Pat has some advice: Work on your people skills. Technical knowledge matters, but relationships are what move your career forward. Listen first, validate what you hear, and show clients you care beyond just getting the deal. Think like an entrepreneur. Especially in smaller firms, be ready to jump in wherever you're needed and help the company win. Understand what consulting is really about. You're there to solve client problems and deliver real results. Keep reading. Pat recommends The Go-Giver, Trusted Advisor, Getting Naked by Patrick Lencioni, and What Got You Here Won't Get You There by Marshall Goldsmith. Want to hear more from Pat? Check out our full conversation on the podcast. At Cameron-Brooks, we help officers transition from the military into another fulfilling career in business. Whether you are looking to move from the military to consulting or you are looking to explore your options, we're here to help. Want to learn more about a career in consulting? Check out our career fields page. Want advice about your marketability in the business world? We would be happy to talk.

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Muriel Wilkins: Leadership Unblocked Muriel Wilkins is the founder and CEO of Paravis Partners and a sought-after C-suite adviser and executive coach with a twenty-year track record of helping senior leaders take their performance to the next level. She is the coauthor of Own the Room and the host of the Harvard Business Review podcast Coaching Real Leaders. She's just released her newest book, Leadership Unblocked: Break Through the Beliefs That Limit Your Potential (Amazon, Bookshop)*. You may have spent years aiming for the leadership role you now have. But now, once you're in the job, it can be really disorienting to feel like you don't belong. In this conversation, Muriel and I explore this reality that a lot of leaders face and what do when you run into it. Key Points Feeling like you don't belong is a normal and common reality at inflection points in your career. A vicious cycle can emerge: you're waiting to be included while others are waiting for you to engage. While you can't control others, you can break the part of the pattern you have control of. Even when you believe that not belonging is triggered by sexism, racism, and ableism, it doesn't serve you to hold onto that belief. Define your value proposition. What gets missed when you don't show up? Remind yourself of shared goals or values with the group. This prevents the small stuff from distracting you as much. Identify a few supportive people and build relationships with them. Resources Mentioned Leadership Unblocked: Break Through the Beliefs That Limit Your Potential by Muriel Wilkins (Amazon, Bookshop)* Interview Notes Download my interview notes in PDF format (free membership required). Related Episodes How to Start a Big Leadership Role, with Carol Kauffman (episode 617) How to Start Better With Peers, with Michael Bungay Stanier (episode 635) The Habits That Hold Leaders Back, with Marshall Goldsmith (episode 696) Discover More Activate your free membership for full access to the entire library of interviews since 2011, searchable by topic. To accelerate your learning, uncover more inside Coaching for Leaders Plus.

In this episode, I sit down once again with Dr Corrie Block, executive coach, author of The Chief Executive Coach, and one of the most respected voices in leadership and performance.Dr Corrie shares powerful insights from his new book — diving into what it really means to coach at the Olympic level of business, why most “executive coaches” aren't truly qualified, and how companies like Google and lessons from The Trillion Dollar Coach (Bill Campbell) changed the way the world views leadership development.We talk about:

Why This Episode Is a Must-Listen What does it really take to master leadership in a fast-changing, high-pressure world? This episode from Inspired Money goes far beyond the usual advice, diving into real strategies for financial success and personal growth. If you want to lead with impact, whether at the kitchen table or the boardroom, this expert panel shares actionable insights, powerful stories, and game-changing tools for becoming the kind of leader people actually want to follow.  Meet the Expert Panelists Heather Younger is the Founder and CEO of Employee Fanatix, a leading consulting firm specializing in employee engagement, culture, and active listening. A bestselling author, TEDx speaker, and expert on empathy in leadership, she empowers organizations to build trust, inclusivity, and workplaces where every voice feels heard and valued. https://heatheryounger.com Charlene Wheeless is a leadership strategist, executive coach, and bestselling author who helps leaders and organizations transform culture, elevate communication, and lead with authenticity and impact. A former Principal Vice President at Bechtel Corporation and member of Marshall Goldsmith's 100 Coaches, she is a sought-after speaker on resilience, empowerment, and purpose-driven leadership. https://charlenewheeless.com Tiffany Yu is the CEO & Founder of Diversability, a 3x TEDx speaker, and the author of The Anti-Ableist Manifesto: Smashing Stereotypes, Forging Change, and Building a Disability-Inclusive World. She started her career at Goldman Sachs and was named to the 2025 Forbes Accessibility 100 List. At the age of 9, Tiffany became disabled as a result of a car accident that also took the life of her father. https://www.tiffanyyu.com This episode is sponsored by Runnymede Capital Management. Get your free 3-minute financial plan at https://www.inspiredmoney.fm/getplan and discover your retirement age, income, and strategy today. Key Highlights: 1. Leadership Is Adaptability in Action Charlene Wheeless shares how true leaders move beyond hierarchical models: “You quickly learn that hierarchical leadership is quite ineffective…If you can connect with someone, you can lead someone.” Adaptability, active listening, and connecting with people on a one-on-one level turn authority into inspiration. 2. Vulnerability Is the New Power Tiffany Yu talks openly about leading with vulnerability and authenticity—especially in spaces that haven't historically made room for difference. “I believe that we have the capacity to be our full, authentic selves…Just different parts of it are showing up at different times.” Her approach shows how vulnerability, not perfection, drives belonging and possibility. 3. Listening and Empathy Build Trust Heather Younger explains her unique practices for making teams feel truly seen and heard: “I always have this practice where if I'll present an idea…I let them basically overvote me. That creates a sense of safety. And they know what, they can trust me.” Her actionable tips for active listening cut through disengagement and unlock deeper trust. 4. Integrity as a Strategic Asset The panel emphasizes how integrity isn't just a virtue. It's foundational to sustainable business success. Tiffany points out: “There is a business case for disability inclusion…how can we balance both the moral imperative with the economic imperative and have them in tandem?” Integrity shapes culture, attracts talent, and drives performance... not just reputation. Call-to-Action Your Inspired Money challenge for the week: choose one conversation where you'll listen with full attention. No distractions, no rehearsed responses... just presence. Notice how it changes the dynamic and what opens up as a result. Find the Inspired Money channel on YouTube or listen to Inspired Money in your favorite podcast player. Andy Wang, Host/Producer of Inspired Money

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Welcome to part two of our conversation with Kristen Hadeed on Stories from the River.  Host Charlie Malouf continues his conversation with Kristen Hadeed, author of Permission to Screw Up, diving into resilience, ownership, and courageous leadership. Kristen shares why it's okay to have a short “pity party” after setbacks—but emphasizes the importance of moving forward and learning from mistakes. She introduces practical tools like the “resilience resume,” where human-centered leaders reflect on lessons learned from their own screw-ups in weekly meetings, creating a safe space for experimentation, growth, and risk-taking. The conversation explores how leaders can foster ownership and identity capital while helping team members find their “sweet spot” at work. Kristen highlights the value of embracing both rock star (deep specialist) and superstar (fast-growth, versatile) mindsets as careers evolve. She also explains the “1:3:1” method for collaborative problem-solving, where individuals present a challenge, three potential solutions, and their preferred option—boosting both idea quality and personal accountability. Kristen underscores the power of courageous conversations and shares her 24-hour rule for addressing tough issues, all designed to build trust, authenticity, and stronger teams. She closes with an invitation to her Human Leadership Program, a pay-what-you-can initiative that helps leaders grow through intentionality, self-compassion, and creating lasting impact. Additional Resources:  Kristen's Leadership Development Company Website - https://www.kristenhadeed.com   The Human Leadership Program by Kristen Hadeed - https://www.kristenhadeed.com/humanleadershipprogram   Permission to Screw Up by Kristen Hadeed - https://www.amazon.com/Permission-Screw-Up-Learned-Everything/dp/1591848296   Chief Joy Officer: How Great Leaders Elevate Human Energy and Eliminate Fear by Richard Sheridan - https://www.amazon.com/Chief-Joy-Officer-Leaders-Eliminate/dp/0735218226   The Defining Decade by Meg Jay - https://www.amazon.com/Defining-Decade-Your-Twenties-Matter/dp/0446561754   Radical Candor: Be a Kick-Ass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity by Kim Scott - https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Candor-Kick-Ass-Without-Humanity/dp/1250103509   What Got You Here Won't Get You There by Marshall Goldsmith - https://www.amazon.com/What-Got-Here-Wont-There/dp/1401301304   Everybody Matters by Bob Chapman & Raj Sisodia - https://www.barrywehmiller.com/bobchapman/book   Watch the video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/ozBEpYK1V1o   Visit https://www.storiesfromtheriver.com for more episodes.   Broad River Retail brought this show to you. Visit https://BroadRiverRetail.com       Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/broad-river-retail   

Welcome to part two of our conversation with Kristen Hadeed on Stories from the River.  Host Charlie Malouf continues his conversation with Kristen Hadeed, author of Permission to Screw Up, diving into resilience, ownership, and courageous leadership. Kristen shares why it's okay to have a short “pity party” after setbacks—but emphasizes the importance of moving forward and learning from mistakes. She introduces practical tools like the “resilience resume,” where human-centered leaders reflect on lessons learned from their own screw-ups in weekly meetings, creating a safe space for experimentation, growth, and risk-taking. The conversation explores how leaders can foster ownership and identity capital while helping team members find their “sweet spot” at work. Kristen highlights the value of embracing both rock star (deep specialist) and superstar (fast-growth, versatile) mindsets as careers evolve. She also explains the “1:3:1” method for collaborative problem-solving, where individuals present a challenge, three potential solutions, and their preferred option—boosting both idea quality and personal accountability. Kristen underscores the power of courageous conversations and shares her 24-hour rule for addressing tough issues, all designed to build trust, authenticity, and stronger teams. She closes with an invitation to her Human Leadership Program, a pay-what-you-can initiative that helps leaders grow through intentionality, self-compassion, and creating lasting impact. Additional Resources:  Kristen's Leadership Development Company Website - https://www.kristenhadeed.com   The Human Leadership Program by Kristen Hadeed - https://www.kristenhadeed.com/humanleadershipprogram   Permission to Screw Up by Kristen Hadeed - https://www.amazon.com/Permission-Screw-Up-Learned-Everything/dp/1591848296   Chief Joy Officer: How Great Leaders Elevate Human Energy and Eliminate Fear by Richard Sheridan - https://www.amazon.com/Chief-Joy-Officer-Leaders-Eliminate/dp/0735218226   The Defining Decade by Meg Jay - https://www.amazon.com/Defining-Decade-Your-Twenties-Matter/dp/0446561754   Radical Candor: Be a Kick-Ass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity by Kim Scott - https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Candor-Kick-Ass-Without-Humanity/dp/1250103509   What Got You Here Won't Get You There by Marshall Goldsmith - https://www.amazon.com/What-Got-Here-Wont-There/dp/1401301304   Everybody Matters by Bob Chapman & Raj Sisodia - https://www.barrywehmiller.com/bobchapman/book   Watch the video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/ozBEpYK1V1o   Visit https://www.storiesfromtheriver.com for more episodes.   Broad River Retail brought this show to you. Visit https://BroadRiverRetail.com       Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/broad-river-retail   

In this special episode, hear guest host Marshall Goldsmith, world-renowned leadership coach, talk with Martha C. Lawrence, author of Catch People Doing Things Right: How Ken Blanchard Changed the Way the World Leads. Together, they explore the transformative power of positive recognition, how leaders can inspire excellence, and why focusing on strengths drives lasting organizational success. To learn more visit marthalawrence.com. Or connect with Martha Lawrence on LinkedIn To learn more about Marshall Goldsmith visit marshallgoldsmith.com

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What happens when an artist's eye meets executive strategy? In this energizing conversation, Genein and Veronica explore Creative Intelligence (CQ)—the dynamic interplay of creative thinking, emotions, and strategic action—and how it powers adaptability, innovation, and leadership clarity. From inattentional blindness (

Welcome to Building Brand You™, the podcast that helps you accelerate your success by unlocking your greatest asset – you.   KEY TAKEAWAYS In Latin, the word confidence means trust. The quality of internal dialogue will determine the quality of the dialogue with every external stakeholder in your life. Let fear be your counsel and not your jailer. Life is lived forward and understood backwards.  “Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It's our light, not our darkness that frightens us.” Marianne Williamson, RESOURCES MENTIONED: Self Esteem & Peak Performance by Jack Canfield - https://www.amazon.com/Self-Esteem-Peak-Performance-Canfield/dp/1933328010 A Return to Love: Reflections on the Principles of "A Course in Miracles" by Marianne Williamson - https://www.amazon.com/Return-Love-Reflections-Principles-Miracles/dp/0060927488 What Got You Here Won't Get You There: How Successful People Become Even More Successful by Marshall Goldsmith - https://www.amazon.com/What-Got-Here-Wont-There/dp/0739342231 60 Life-Changing Lessons in 60 Weeks by Peter Milligan - https://www.sixtylessons.com/    ABOUT OUR GUEST: Peter is an inspirational speaker and business psychologist with 30 years' experience. He helps business leaders and teams to have less stress, more joy and greater productivity. Originally an IT professional, Peter retrained in psychology and joined the management team of a leading Australian HR consulting firm. After moving to the UK in 2000, he became a director of Europe's largest executive coaching firm before establishing his own business in 2005.  Peter's clients have ranged from professional services firms, SMEs and family businesses to larger organisations including Australia Post, BP, Credit Suisse, Kerry Foods, Novartis, Oxford University, Rolls-Royce, and Vodafone. CONNECT WITH PETER MILLIGAN: Linkedin - www.linkedIn.com/in/petermilligan Website - https://www.newgenerationleaders.com/ Email - peter.milligan@newgenleaders.com Website - https://www.sixtylessons.com/Twitter - https://twitter.com/PeterMilligan Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/peter.milligan.777     ABOUT KYM HAMER: Kym is an international leadership and personal branding thought leader, an executive coach, and a programme design and facilitation practitioner. She is also the creator of Building Brand You™ - a methodology helping organisations, teams, and individuals to build reputation, presence, and gravitas. Kym works with leaders - both individually and in organisational development initiatives - to inspire and engage thinking styles and behaviour that achieve results and leave legacy. In 2020, just one year after launching her business, she was nominated by Thinkers360 as one of the Top 100 Women B2B Leadership influencers and is currently in the Top 15 Personal Branding and Top 10 Marketing Influencers in the world. For 5 years running Kym has also been one of Thinkers360's Top 10 Thought Leaders on Entrepreneurship and in 2023, 2024 and 2025, was recognised as one of their Top Voices globally. She has been part of Homeward Bound Projects faculty since 2020, a global initiative reaching 1.8 billion people, equipping women and non-binary people with a STEMM background to lead conversations for a sustainable future. She is currently the Program Design and Faculty Lead for the 10th on-line cohort and was part of the on-board faculty who voyaged to Antarctica in 2023 and 2025, to deliver the initiative's immersive component. In between all of these things, you'll find her curled up in a corner with her nose in a book.   Building Brand You™: JOIN the BBY Facebook Group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/buildingbrandyou SUBSCRIBE to the BBY Podcast on: (Apple) - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/building-brand-you/id1567407273 (Spotify) - https://open.spotify.com/show/4Ho26pAQ5uJ9h0dGNicCIq CONNECT WITH KYM HAMER: LinkedIn - https://linkedin.com/in/kymhamer/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/kymhamerartemis/ TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@kymhamer Thinkers360 - https://bit.ly/thinkers360-kymhamer-BBY Find out about BBY Coaching - https://calendly.com/kymhamer/bbychat/   HOSTED BY: Kym Hamer   DISCLAIMER: The views, information, or opinions expressed during the Building Brand You™ podcast series are solely those of the individuals involved. They do not necessarily represent any other entities, agencies, organisations, or companies. Building Brand You™ is not responsible and does not verify the accuracy of any of the information in the podcast available for listening on this site. The primary purpose of this podcast is to educate and inform. This podcast does not constitute legal advice or services  

In this episode, Diana  is joined by guest Ken Keys, PhD, President of CRG and an expert on leadership, wellness, and life purpose. They discuss Ken's difficult upbringing, including the trauma experienced by his parents and his own battles with depression and suicidal thoughts. Ken shares his journey to discovering his purpose, the importance of emotional intelligence, and the impact of finding forgivingness and letting go of past trauma. The episode also highlights actionable steps for personal growth and emphasizes the importance of surrounding oneself with supportive and positive influences. 00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message 00:47 Welcome to the Podcast 01:20 Diana's Personal Update 02:06 Practicing Gratitude 03:40 Introducing Today's Guest: Ken Keys 04:48 Ken Keys' Background and Career Journey 05:53 Ken's Family and Upbringing 08:42 Challenges and Lessons from Dairy Farming 16:20 Ken's Struggles with Depression and Wellness Journey 19:46 Traumatic Experience and Forgiveness 28:20 Family Dynamics and Emotional Growth 30:52 The Decline of Reverence for God 31:13 The Impact of Media on Society 31:54 Personal Reflections on Family and Intimacy 32:36 Journey Back to Faith 33:49 Discovering a New Christian Community 35:01 Embracing Ministry and Leadership 36:37 The Importance of Personal Style in Ministry 38:57 Overcoming Family Expectations 41:27 Judgment and Acceptance in Christian Life 46:27 The Influence of Associations 55:23 Final Thoughts and Actionable Steps www.kenkeis.com/faithful for your free gift   Website: https://dswministries.org Subscribe to the podcast: https://dswministries.org/subscribe-to-podcast/ Social media links: Join our Private Wounds of the Faithful FB Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1603903730020136 Twitter: https://twitter.com/DswMinistries YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxgIpWVQCmjqog0PMK4khDw/playlists Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dswministries/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DSW-Ministries-230135337033879 Keep in touch with me! 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They do it all with a written guarantee for results so you don't waste time and money on a program that doesn't exceed your goals. There are martial arts programs. Specialize in anti-bullying programs for kids to combat proven Filipino martial arts. They take a holistic, fun, and innovative approach that simply works. Sign up for your free class now. It's 7 5 3 academy.com. Find the link in the show notes. Welcome to the Wounds of the Faithful Podcast, brought to you by DSW Ministries. Your host is singer songwriter, speaker and domestic violence advocate, [00:01:00] Diana . She is passionate about helping survivors in the church heal from domestic violence and abuse and trauma. This podcast is not a substitute for professional counseling or qualified medical help. Now here is Diana. Hi everybody. How are you guys doing today? I hope you are well. It is a beautiful day outside. Fall isn't even here yet it seems. But my garden. We got to harvest some of our food. We ate some green beans and snap peas and ate some strawberries from my garden. We're just waiting for the tomatoes to ripen. But it's really exciting when you start eating from your own garden, you didn't even think it was going to survive. And with the change of seasons [00:02:00] here, and Thanksgiving is coming up, holidays are coming up. I didn't really do a Thanksgiving podcast, but we want to be thankful. It's hard to be thankful this year, isn't it? Was a huge dumpster fire, and it's probably not all gonna go away you know, January 1st , I'm sure isn't gonna magically disappear, but, um, we have to practice the art of being thankful and grateful for what we have. Make a list, and I know it's hard, just the littlest things that you see during the day. Hey, I have the song on the radio I heard, and it was such a blessing to me. Or like, me, I had a harvest this week. Or, oh, the weather is so beautiful or. My kid got an A on his spelling. Just the little things, just make a [00:03:00] list and go back to those lists. And I'm not one of those positive thinker people. I'm not, I have to work at being positive. I like being around positive people because that lifts me up. My husband is naturally positive and he lifts me up. Right now. He's going through a hard time with his medical stuff and I have to lift him up when I'm having a bad day, he has to lift me up. But we try and practice gratefulness even in the little things. So I hope that encourages you during this holiday. I'm not gonna do a big holiday podcast. Today I have a guest with me today and he's going to talk about, when you feel like, your life doesn't feel like it has meeting you don't have any fulfillment, you're trying to get outta the hole you're in. Maybe you got outta a domestic violence situation and you don't know how to fulfill your [00:04:00] dreams. You don't know how to take that step and work towards your ideal life. Well, this next guest is going to help you do that, to leave the drama behind and find out, which parts of your personality you were born with, which ones you probably need to get rid of, or which ones you can develop further. How you're able to adapt to other people's behavior. Approach your interactions with confidence instead of fear. Find out what makes other people tick. How to handle misunderstandings and defensiveness. How do you handle your triggers? Hey, we've all got drama that we need to leave behind. We wanna move forward, right? So I'm going to read his bio here. Ken Keys PhD President of CRG is a global expert on leadership, wellness, behavioral assessments, and life purpose. [00:05:00] In 28 years, he has conducted over 3000 presentations and invested 10,000 hours. In consulting and coaching. Ken Keys is considered a foremost global authority on the way assessment strategies and processes. Increase and multiply success rates. He's co-created CRGs proprietary development models and has written over 4 million words of content for 40 business training programs and 400 plus articles. His latest book, the Quest for Purpose, a Self-Discovery Process to Find It and Live It. So please welcome Ken Keys. Thanks so much, Ken Keith, for coming on the show. Appreciate it. Well, well it's great to be hanging out with you. Tell us about your self, your upbringing, and your family. Did you come from a [00:06:00] successful family? Well, um, I am a third generation, uh, in Canada. So my grandparents, all four came from Hungary between the first and second World War as immigrants. And then they settled here. I'm about an hour east of Vancouver, Canada, so that's where I make my home. And so I actually grew up on a dairy farm. After uh, high school I went to agricultural college, came back to work on the farm, but pretty well a few months in dad and I were ready to beat each other into a pulp. 'cause we really didn't get along. Both of us wanted to be in charge and dad was kind of of the European mindset, just do what I say. I'll only tell you and criticize you. When you screw up. I'm never going to affirm you or. Do something positive 'cause that might go to your head. Aw. And so I, you know, after a couple of years I left the farm, I went and worked in agricultural fields as first, uh, for the Department of Agriculture. Then as a [00:07:00] feed sales rep, uh, for agriculture company. My diploma is a nutrition and genetics, so I was really a nutritionist to dairy cattle farmers. And then I actually started my own farm across the street. Which was fine, I could do my own thing. And then the late eighties, I got into this industry as a sales trainer. So I bought a franchise in the sales training. I said, what a na natural transition, uh, closed down my dairy farm. And then that was the beginning of this. Now when we're recording this, 32 years later, I said, where did that go? Uh, and, you know, three or four books, the author of 12 psychological assessments presented 3000 times somewhere around the world. Uh, authored 4 million words of content. You know, it's an interesting story and journey. And of course, I'll link in my, uh, face story here in a minute as well. So now this, it is. 32 years doing what I'm doing. And the company that I own was founded in 1979 by a professor at a Christian university. He wanted to create a, uh, create an assessment that was [00:08:00] different, better, more improved than Disc Myers-Briggs true colors, way back in 1979. And so he created the tool, the personal style indicator. I got connected to that company in 1990 and then bought it nearly 20 years ago. So we're now, you know, doing business in 12 languages, 30 countries around the world. And all our tools are built on a Christian worldview view, but we equally serve, you know, like Boeing mm-hmm. Or companies of that nature, or Ford or Chrysler as we do Ministries. And we just say, we're just here to help develop people. And then my purpose in life is to help others to live, lead, and work on purpose and to help them to realize their potential. So that's really been our focus for the last three decades. Well, you talk about the cows and I don't think I've ever milked a cow and well, it is 24 7, and I think that was one of the things that happened. I think, and here's my. Encouragement and challenge for those people that are listening, watching this show today [00:09:00] is I got up one morning with my dairy herd and I asked myself this question, if I was doing this same thing 20 years from now, would that be okay? And I said, no, no, no, no, no. I can't be doing that. And I always knew I was to be a speaker. Even when I was 16, I was speaking in front of groups, MCing groups asked to do that kinda work. Uh, I never thought I would be an author because my grade nine teacher said, well, I wouldn't amount to anything because I couldn't read or write. And it was discovered when I did my master's degree that I was dyslexic. So the invention of the computer when I went to school, I'm young, just to let you know, but when I went to school, there weren't, there weren't computers. The program word wasn't there to help me understand or see the words, uh, words that I was misspelling. And the reality is, is that, so I have mispronounced some words, so what doesn't matter, you know, get over it. And that led me to being a writer, which no way you [00:10:00] would've ever convinced me that was gonna be something that I would do almost more of than any single item in my lifetime. So here we are. And now just really trying to, you know, live his purpose and to help encourage other people to live theirs and to be anchored in that. Wow. Research shows. Diana is that when you're out there and engaging in nature, it actually feeds your soul. It does. So, even the research of kids that live in the countryside are healthier than those mm-hmm. That live in sterile environments in a condo, you know, in a 50 story building. I'm not here to judge you because you live in a condo. I'm just saying the reality is the health stats show that when you're out and about and you're just kind of in nature, your immunity strengthens, but so does your core soul because you're out there with nature and hey, that was designed that way. Absolutely. I think it's kept me sane. I liked being outside. I liked going out there and fussing over [00:11:00] my plants. Well, it's in, it's always interesting me to quote unquote live off the grid. And what I mean by that is just being a property that doesn't require utilities from third parties and things like that. But I'd live close to the town or city. There is a lot of effort and work, and one of the reasons that I did stop dairy farming was the 24 7 obligation, 365 days a year. I mean, you never have a day off in a dairy farmer's environment. Now, I appreciate the values that I learned, tenacity, persistence it doesn't matter what the weather's doing. I remember one time where it was very cold. One February. It was rare for where we live, but all the pipes and everything were frozen. Well, it took me four hours of fighting just to thaw all the pipes out so I could milk my cows. And just going back in the house and watching TV wasn't an option. It had to be done. So no matter, you know, what your personality or personal style is or anything like that, those character [00:12:00] traits were entrenched in me or developed in me in that persistence, uh, growing up. So that, you know, that's part of what I bring into it. I'm not. Mm-hmm. Uh, I was thankful for growing up in that environment, but it wasn't something that I was meant to do going forward. So you mentioned your father, but you also said that your mom, had some abuse in her childhood Hmm. Would you, be willing to elaborate on that? Sure. You know, it's interesting. I grew up in quote unquote a Christian home. Mm-hmm. But it wasn't really because my grandparents were Presbyterian in their background. No judgment. Anybody has that background. I grew up in the Presbyterian church. My brother and I were the youth, so that was, they were the only ones that were attending. But what I didn't see in my family was really the relationship with Christ. Mm. It was a cognitive thing, it was a cerebral thing. It was a duty, but it wasn't really an experience. It wasn't a relationship whatsoever. And of course, later on, I sort of [00:13:00] left the church. I can tell you my spiritual story here in a bit. But as a result of that, my dad was 16 years of age when his dad died of an unknown causes. He was on the farm, so he was forced to quit school in grade eight or nine to take over the farm with his mother. Now, his eldest brother was working off the farm, but also was helping on the farm, and a year later died of an unknown. As well. So here his father dies and then, you know, the next year before he is almost 17, his eldest brother that he looked up to died as well. Oh. And then my grandmother, where I was one of the, I wasn't the eldest male, but in that culture, you know, males just seemed to be, that was important to grandma. So I was the first born in Elst male farm. Grandma was pretty good with me, but she had a critical spirit. And so that spirit then led into my dad. My dad's way of dealing with that trauma was [00:14:00] to say nothing, just really be quiet. Mm-hmm. And the culture, the Hungarian culture also was one of non-emotional. I mean, you didn't share your feelings, you didn't share what was going on. You didn't share your heart. And even though my dad was on the board of the church, an elder. I never saw him pray. I never really see him have this relationship. He believes in God, you know, is he saved? I don't know. I mean, it's hard to know just for the viewers. I'm an ordained pastor now, so, this is kind of a full circle for me. And then my mom, grew up in as an, as a teenager with a father who was abusive when he was drinking. So an adult child of an alcoholic is kind of the process. So he, later on, , he straightened up. However, there was one night, my understanding from the story, I wasn't around yet where grandpa came home and then, was, beating on the kids and grandma got a knife and says, you touch him again, I'll kill you. Mm. And so that was kind of the environment that my mom grew up in. Now, grandpa, [00:15:00] later on when I knew him, I never knew that part of him. He was able to get his binge drinking under control. His English was broken, but we had a great relationship. He passed away sooner, and then grandma was left. Grandma was a critical spirits to my mom. So my mom now as we record, this is 86, going on 87 soon, and, I think she worries for the entire planet. I think her self-worth as far as she still has not processed this value set. So she plays the victim card extensively. And then as far as my environment for my dad, giving compliments, providing compliments just never happened. So he is 88 at the time of recording this and I'm 60. And I do not recall ever him telling me that he loves me. Aw. I just not now, does he? Yes, he does. But to verbally say that I love you just doesn't happen. I could go to his place though. And say, [00:16:00] dad, I need to borrow your truck. I need to borrow tools. Always, yes. Never says no to being helpful, but to be able to have that emotional connection and to articulate it is not something he learned. I think he did the best that he could with what he knew. So same with my mom. So I don't, I'm not bitter with them now. I'm obviously disappointed. But what it led to for me in my teenage years, when I came back from college, so I was 19 years of age, I think when I finished college, I started when I was younger is, I was suicidal. Hmm. So I sat there on the farm, here I'm arguing with my dad. I want to take it over, but he won't include me in any decisions. This is the, it's my way of the highway. There was no relationship per se, it was just a dictatorship. Mm-hmm. And then talking about deeper things that never happened, at home, when I got in some trouble with a girl, in my younger years, I wanted to share that with my mom, and she just started to criticize me. So it told me [00:17:00] never share anything with my mother that I'm dealing with as far as those pieces. So I sat there and I really said, is life really worth it? And for those of you that have been through trauma or whatever, suicide is really calling out, suicide is a hopelessness. It's a mm-hmm. Where you believe in that moment that not being here would be far less painful than being here. And first of all, it's alive, the enemy. So if we think about John 10, 10 is that the enemy comes to, kill, steal, and destroy or whatever that order is, and. And so he wants you to, take your own life because then you know what, your impact for the ministry is not gonna be there. Your impact for others is not gonna be there. Well, obviously I didn't take my life, but I thought about it and I had those components or considerations Later on in life, about a decade later, I was diagnosed asmatic depressive. And so I went on an antidepressant called Lithium, and it was my friend of mine, [00:18:00] actually out of Dallas, Texas. And she was a psychologist and she said, Ken, you're not a depressed person. There's something else biologically going on with you. And so we, I, at my insistence, did a glucose tolerance test, found out I was hypoglycemic. I wasn't depressed at all. Yeah. So what that had to do was around my blood sugar levels. So one of my passions now in life is I love to develop the whole person. And we have 12 assessments in our company from personality, but we also have an assessment on wellness and stress. And as a, I consider myself, a wellness expert. Mm-hmm. Because I don't believe that we need to rely on external people for my health. And so a lot of times people get into trouble where they don't take care of themselves. So mm-hmm. It's very difficult to be alive and functional and be a spiritual, , lion when you are fatigued, when you have no [00:19:00] energy. So, uh, I say fatigue makes cowards of us all. I wasn't the person who said I was another person who had started that. So I started to look at how can I take care of myself? Make sure you get the sleep, make sure for the most part you eat right, that you do things right. A lot of times as individuals, we don't take care of ourselves, and then we wonder why we're lethargic or we can't focus or we can't concentrate. And we do that with our kids. So I, you know, this body is a temple. We have a responsibility to take care of it. So that's why we've been working in all these different areas. And then one other. And then we're talking about trauma. And I haven't, I've only shared this very few times on podcasts and I don't, not that it's a secret. I actually share this story in my book, the Quest for Purpose. Mm-hmm. Which I am actually going to give everybody a copy of this at the end of the show. Right. Wow. So we are gonna be able to give you a free download of that book. But in the book, in 1982, I was actually [00:20:00] dating my high school sweetheart. So it was the person that I took to my prom. She was a couple years younger than me. And on December 13th, 1982 the police officer showed up at my home and said, we'd like to interview Ken. Now I happen to be out in town with my brother at that time, and there wasn't cell phones that we personally had. So when I got that, they said it's very urgent that Ken come to the station as soon as he gets home. I'm curious. I don't know what this is about. I am also nervous. I'm a little bit fearful. I'm having nervous energy and trying to crack jokes when I get to the police department. Yeah. So I get into one of these interview rooms that are just like, the TV says steel chairs, bricks, security, glass. One person in the room, TV cameras recording you. And I say, you know, what's this about? And the officer says, we have a reason to believe that you are, dating or a boyfriend of Carol Ann Repel. And I said, yeah, well that's true. And he said, well, she was murdered last [00:21:00] night. Oh. And so, what are you talking about? And I was one of the second last people to talk to her, and I had been chatting with her on the phone. She was a individual who was gifted and skilled and wanted to be the first female fighter pilot in the Canadian forces. So she was late at night at her employer's location, which was at the airport, and the janitor made a sexual advance to her that went wrong and then beat her to death. Oh, so that's, I'm being interviewed for this. They're asking about it and it came to learn. They didn't know who did it. It was a mystery for months, but they had their suspicions, but they had no proof. And eventually they, charged somebody who I knew, he had been hired as a security guard for some youth group work that we had done. At that moment, that day, I went to work. I said, I'm like, I was complete denial. Just [00:22:00] what is going on on this thing? She was 22 years of age, Diana. Mm-hmm. Maybe going on to 23. So we've all had our situations or stories. It took me years later where I did a process, called emotional freedom Technique. You can agree with it or not, but it was a Christian who created it. I was drenched in sweat, just processing all the. Emotional sort of luggage and baggage that came out of that stuff through the process we did. It was, you just call it very, very intense counseling, if you wanna call it that. And, so we, but I still needed to kind of move forward. I was thankful for the relationship with her. I was angry, upset, but certainly in denial for not months but years, because of that event and when it occurred. There. And then being a person of interest is, has its own dynamics. Oh, so they thought it might have been you? Well, there was that consideration. Now I had a, alibi. I was actually with my parents that night when this [00:23:00] occurred. So that, I mean, I lived alone. I was a single guy, so it was just happenstance, the Holy Spirit protecting me mm-hmm. From any kinda suspicions. But really they were trying to figure out who did it. And I was a witness to, that by being one of the last people to talk to her alive. Hmm. And now, you know, when we're recording, this is many, many years later, almost 40 years later, uh, but still it has sort of an emotional tag that goes with that. So all of us have had things that happen. My encouragement is, is no matter what, because I mean, you're in your podcast trying to help people go through trauma. You always have a choice about what you're gonna do with it. And as a trained counselor. A lot of times in the past, counseling was always about processing your past. I disagree with that. Is that we need to look to our future. Mm-hmm. You know, Carolyn Lee's research on, you know, you know who turned on, who switch off your brain and switch on your brain. Her [00:24:00] books really talks about what you focus on. Gets more on more of it. So if I go in counseling and just relive the event and relive the event and relive the event, well I haven't moved you forward. Forward. So I'm not denying its issues or what's going on or that it happened, I'm just denying it's hold in your future. So this is around forgiveness. I had to forgive the guy who killed her. Mm-hmm. Because, uh, you know, the old story, everybody has heard this, if you've been in any front of any servant, is that unforgiveness is like you taking the poison and wanting the other person to live. Right. We've all heard that. Yes. Well, we just need to be reminded of that to, I wasn't obviously agreeing with the heinous act. He did, but I had to forgive him so that I would be free in that his heinous act wouldn't be affecting me, plus my family and everybody else around me as well. So, uh, I don't think you knew that story was coming, Diana. Actually, I did. I [00:25:00] read your blog. Oh, you did? You did. Oh, well, you're one of the few. So, uh, and when I do my normal podcast, I don't mention this for very often, but you know, the Holy Spirit has lifted me up, been there beside me in that. It's not him who did this. You know, I can rely on him to be able to kind of build me up. And in fact, I have to, I mean, if we're going through life, we're just gonna have stuff happen. Mm-hmm. It's just part of the dynamic of living in a broken world. Yeah. It definitely is a fallen world. Yeah. I'll swing around back to what you said about forgiveness. Did the, murderer, go to prison or did he think of that? Yeah, he was eventually caught. What they did is they knew who he was, but they didn't, you know, DNA was kind of, just in its infancy stages then in 1982. So, what they did is they set up a sting operation and then they had somebody, you know, where people wear wire and they're recording what's being [00:26:00] said. There was some, someone in his life that he had semi revealed that he was involved with this. And so they knew that, but they couldn't prove anything. So then they set up this sting and then it went from there. And then once he sort of confessed in this, sting operation with this person, then it went to downhill from there. Yes, he was, I think his time, I think he's like in life, in prison for life. So was it easier to forgive that you saw some justice for your girlfriend, or did that not really matter? It's so long ago. I'm not sure if I recall if I was thinking either way, but mm-hmm. But I think finding the person who did it was important just for safety matters. Mm-hmm. And curiosity and just, you know, who was it that did this? I, knowing the person to a certain degree, I mean, because we had hired him and had interactions with him. He wasn't a hundred [00:27:00] percent there, if you know what I mean. Oh, okay. Just so, I don't wanna use the word simple, but I use the word just not a hundred percent. You know, the elevator didn't go a hundred percent to the top. And I think it was not planned. I believe that it was just a sexual advance go bad, and he went to a point of no return, that she's gonna say something, I'm gonna get into trouble. And the only way to stop this is to end her life. Mm-hmm. And I believe that's what occurred and what happened. So he was single, he was in his thirties. Mm-hmm. Uh, and you know, a lot of sexual predators are kind of in that category. I don't know if he was or wasn't. I don't know. And there was no other charges in other parts of his life. But that's kind of how that unfolded. Ian, you know, at this point, I'm obviously very, very sad. She was an amazing girl. And being my grad prom date had sort of a. Not sort of had a significance sort of in my history, in my life as well, but I was just thankful that justice was [00:28:00] done and those things were discovered. And I'm just saying to those people at watch who are listening, that, you know, no matter what happens, we have these choices to be able to move to the next level. I mean, I'm thankful Diana, for your ministry and Ministries like you that help people to kind of bridge that gap from where they are to where they need to do or some of the work that we do as well. So, you know, example is my parents, my mom mm-hmm. Still has not processed this adult child of alcoholic. Her behavior is around it. Mm-hmm. In interesting enough, my sister who is in her fifties, and I hopefully she doesn't watch this, is you know, some of the tendencies are there too. Like, I know my parents won't watch it. But you know, if one of my family members watch it, is that, that worry side, that anxiety side that gets passed down? Yes. Now and obviously my depression side came out of that family dynamic. Mm-hmm. And then with my dad, never saying, never having a compliment. I think he just emotionally was unable to do it. Mm-hmm. Now, what's [00:29:00] really fun is my kids are 25 and 24 now, and they're very developed and skilled individuals. My wife Brenda, is a school teacher, so we're both in the professional development fields. Mm-hmm. And for their age. The kids are amazing. Of course, parents are biased about this, but they really mess with grandpa and grandma now. Oh. So my daughter will go in there, grandpa, we really, really, really love you. We really do. Just waiting to see if he'll say anything. And then he'll go, so he'll mumble and then he'll kind of be embarrassed. He'll look down. And it's not that he doesn't have any emotions, but the kids kind of know that. And they just, because grandparents can't mess with their grandkids that way. And then my son will do the same thing with them. And so from that point of view, we've just loved on them, accepting them for where they're at. I feel badly for them that they haven't been able to brace everything that they could. You know, when we're in the stressful situation, we are in the world right now. They have just taken the [00:30:00] worry of the whole world upon their shoulders. Right? You know, God's very clear in his word. Fear is from the enemy. Mm-hmm. You know, it doesn't mean stupid, but there's not one scripture that I'm aware of unless you want to correct me, Diana, that says, you know what? Being fearful a little bit's. Okay. Everything is fear. Not Well, you know, God says, he gives you fear so you don't jump off the edge of a cliff or, bungee jump off of Well, I have bungee jump, but I hear what you're saying is that, that fight or flight, yeah. That's a healthy fear. It keeps you from doing something really stupid. Mm-hmm. But, and then when we get into the scripture, you know, fear fear of the Lord is really a reverence for 'em if you get into the Greek and the Hebrew. Mm-hmm. Is that it's reverence for them and it's honoring of them. And in that's part of the problem in the global society right now. There's no fear of him. There's no reverence for God anymore. No. And so it's a godless society in many ways. That's why people are acting out when you take [00:31:00] God out, then you get these situations where people are spiritualists and they really are acting on their own. And the enemy is controlling them. Mm-hmm. Exactly. And their flesh. Yeah. Well, for sure. And if it's not modeled for you and we teach that in our development factors model that as an observer, as a child of the relationships around you, that's all you know to do. Yeah. And of course we think that life is around social media, that it's around podcasts like this, but there was none of that. Mm-hmm. Back 50, 60 years ago. And in fact, the TV was just even coming in and some of the examples there, and most of the examples were way more wholesome. Yeah. And loving back then. I think the. The most amount of violence was on gun smoke. Uh, I love that show. Of course. I mean, those of us that are older, remember that one? That was great. So part of what, you know, I wanna encourage the listeners [00:32:00] is, people do the best that they can with what they know. My mom has told me that she loves me, but it's kind of an awkward thing. It's a thing that she does there. If I say that I love her, then she would say, well, me too. Um, but not everybody is that way. And then you talk about intimacy. We used to joke with my parents that said, how do we exist? You guys never touch each other. Like, how did it even happen? Like, was it an accident while you were sleeping or something? So we used to just, we joked about that because there was zero. Intimacy between them. And but I think that again, was cultural and that was part of it. Now, when we think about ministry and spiritual life, and again, the, hopefully this reaches people and it touches your heart for the I went to a church that really nice people, but the services were equivalent to a funeral. Oh yeah. And then the other one is, is when you have the theology and the mindset that you do in that group, they were one of the, some of the most miserable people [00:33:00] that I knew, and this was the Christian Church. I said, well, why would I wanna be part of this? Right. 16, 17, 18, 19, I really fell off and I was crazy, wild and everything. Went to college found out that, uh, man, I could buy four cases of beer for 20 bucks back there in the province of Alberta. And the drinking age was 18 and that's what I was. And so it was a crazy time for me. But then when I got into my later years of my twenties, 26, 27, I was invited to a Bible study by a friend of mine and I said, I don't know. Like I always knew God was there. Mm-hmm. But I really didn't wanna have anything to do with him. I wasn't vile. There was some people that were violent. I was just disinterested in Christian people. Mm-hmm. The number one reason that I left the church were Christians. Yep. At least in my head. But I was around 25, 26 and I went to this Bible study and that this friend of mine, he had, it was a business owner and he had it one Saturday a month. And I walked in this room and [00:34:00] here are these Christians telling jokes and having fun. And it says those two things don't coexist with being a Christian. So he is having fun, he is telling jokes, he's enjoying himself. It wasn't a legalistic pet. And abyss. I said, what? And so all of a sudden my eyes were started to open up and then the spirit, oh no man, the spirit's gonna come. I might even cry. But he came to me because he had me tagged for this kinda work, right? Is he says, Ken, it's not about you and them, it's about you and me. Mm-hmm. So when we have issues with other people, it's always about going vertical. People will always disappoint you. And then his other, his next word to me was clear. He says, and Ken, when were you? Perfect. So none of us are perfect. And so, you know, some of the most judgmental people I've ever met were, have been in the Christian environment, right. That legalistic kind of side. And I said, okay, fine. [00:35:00] Now moving towards it. And that's when I was baptized in a friend's pool, I think it was 28 years of age, and started to go on this journey. And then later on started doing more work for Ministries and said, you know what? I really want to hone my, ministry side and decided to. Take additional biblical studies. Mm-hmm. And then be ordained actually through a friend of mine who, he has a pastor of a church, but he also is one of our associates. 'cause we license other people, around the world to use our tools to serve their community. So this pastor was using it to serve his team and all his team members were going through it. And he also was doing community outreach. And he says, no, we'll, Andor and you. Ordain you under our, CEEC banner. So there's probably about 4,000 kind of interdenominational groups that are under this banner, and that's why I'm ordained under that. I think, I don't know if I mentioned this in the podcast we were together yesterday, or the session yesterday, is I don't ever see myself being quote unquote a pastor of [00:36:00] a church, but doing extended ministry, helping people in ministry and leadership. I've, done a lot of retreats for leadership mm-hmm. For denominations because I can bring the expertise as a leadership in professional development consultants and well as a consultant to bear with the ministry context. And so it's just adding, and that's where I love actually doing the work. We have a local church, one of the larger ones, and the youth minister is a friend of mine. He also does apologetics. And so what we started to do is do his leadership group on our personality. I have a book called, why Aren't You More Like Me? Mm-hmm. And every once or twice a year, we would do retreats for those youth leaders that were 18 to 30 years of age. And in that moment I said, you know what? God has created us uniquely, but also perfectly for the assignments that he has for us in life. It's our responsibility to figure out [00:37:00] what that is. So, Dr. Pastor Randy, would get up front and he would say, next to accepting Christ. He says, I think this is one of the most important things you could learn, because every single person on this planet has a personal style. Other people call it a personality. Mm-hmm. And you are gonna bring that to bear in everything you do, every relationship you touch, every work piece, and responsibility you do. And it's not right, it's not wrong. You are uniquely created for the purposes that he has for you and the plan he has for you and the assignments he has for you and every. Personality or personal style has related strengths and stuff. Challenges, I guess. So I need to be responsible for that. I have, if I didn't have the strengths and tenacity that I was naturally born with, no way, I would've had the fortitude or resilience to overcome some of the things that this company's been through and some of the things that have been in front of me in my life. Wow. On the other hand, you don't want me to [00:38:00] be the auditor of your ministry books 'cause I'll just say it close enough because I absolutely. I might have an MBA, but I really dislike the minute details. I'm really an idea person, even though I've written 4 million words. The words are through ideas to influence people to improve their lives. Mm-hmm. To write a textbook on trigonometry is, I need him to come here and I'm gonna go to heaven quicker. I'm never gonna write. So part of those of you that are watching our ability to say no is equally important as our ability to say yes. Mm-hmm. So our responsibility as individuals, as believers say, everybody says, okay, the're great commission to share his word with other people. Okay. But where doing what for you? So that is the bigger question for us individually, to say, where does he want you to go? What does he want you to do? And you know, if I would've followed the [00:39:00] cultural pressures, I'd still be on the dairy farm. Mm-hmm. With my. Two brothers. And so my youngest brother has taken over the dairy farm and now his son is looking at taking over and his son has got a son. So now you're talking five or six generations. That's great. That's fine. But that's not what I am called to do. So my encouragement is, if you're watching this, there's two things. First of all, don't let the pressures of the past and other people's expectation drive you. Really only a Holy Spirit can lead you. Mm-hmm. And some close advisors that have wisdom and insights or even a word of knowledge for you that you wouldn't know that's driven from the Holy Spirit, not from here. The second one is that is true for you and you're a parent, or you're a significant other, or you're a partner. Why wouldn't you honor that uniqueness of the people around them as well? A friend of mine who's a believer, who was part owner of the company that I now own a hundred percent and I, but I've known him for 40 years. He, when we first got involved with this, he says, [00:40:00] Ken, my son's really. He's not gonna amount to anything. He's the laziest kid I've ever met. But what he was saying, because my friend is a driven entrepreneur like this guy at 70 works 12 hours a day, six days a week, even now, and you can't stop him. And that's just who he is. It's the fabric of who he is. He was a dairy farmer as well, so you, he's already got that in his gene. His son, who was not really lazy, was just extremely easygoing. So his style was just Dad, no chill. Just chill. Dad, whatever. You know what he is now? Pediatric doctor. Aw. So, sometimes we go there and we judge people and we say, you're not gonna melt to anything. You're lazy. You shouldn't be doing this. And in fact, God had a calling for, his name is John. To be a doctor and think about his nature. He's caring for kids, he has a heart for kids, he has the temperament for kids, he loves on them as a doctor. And then [00:41:00] gifted on that, what a better place to be now. The relationship between father and son have never been better as part of it. You know, as you think about this, how can we create a space, a safe space for individuals like you or me to go on this journey of discovery with me, not because of what I say or don't say, but together so that I can help you realize your potential. And one of the things that is, um, I do still kind of get a little miffed at how Christians can put other people down for certain reasons. Absolutely. Or just people in general. I had a point, and now it's gone. It'll come back to me here in a moment. But part of this is that. We don't want to be judging people about their direction and putting them down for certain directions. Mm-hmm. Because now what we're doing is we're spilling our fear into their space. The reality is the enemy will bring people around you to discount you. We even talked about that yesterday in [00:42:00] the, Christian business owners call. Mm-hmm. Is that the enemy wants to discount your worth. Yes. If I go, I have zero people says, Ken, you still get nervous speaking in front of groups. I says, never. Never. If it's a thousand people, 2000 people, 3000 people, I love it. I'm energized. You ever get nervous? Getting on a show? Never does not happen. However, if I'm asked to preach in front of a church, then the worthiness, the enemy comes after me and says, Ken, do you know who you are? What gives you the right to speak about Christ's righteousness in front of these people? And so my, so I want to call it wisdom mm-hmm. To individuals, is that the enemy wants to discount that, there's a big difference between confidence and arrogance is that we wanna be confident in who he is. And yes, he has asked me to share his word with others in the context, and I've done preaching for people online and in services at churches, [00:43:00] and then also led, you know, Ministries through our work and leadership and personality and wellness and all these things. But I'm still working on this thing where the enemy wants to attack this. Who do you think you are? Hmm. When he called out Moses, when Moses says, well, I'm not equipped for this. We use the, scripture from Gideon. I'm the weakest of my clan. Why? Why choose my me? And I started to think about that. Think about all the people that God chose. To lead and be in front. Half of them are murderers. I mean, I'm being demonstrative, but Right. So, hello. That didn't exclude them. Then you have this Pharisee who is killing Christians on the weekend, who wrote nearly half of the New Testament. Absolutely. What are you talking about? Because he's trying to demonstrate to you, me and everybody watching the transformational nature of his spirit and that there is nothing that's not [00:44:00] possible if you're in his will and following it. I will never, in spite of all, like you were talking off air about these, I'll call it new age kind of positive thinking stuff. Mm-hmm. I will never be a basketball player. It's just not gonna Me neither. At five nine. It is not gonna happen. It's just, I can have all the goals in the world. I can visualize all I want. It's just not going to happen. But if it's in the context of his will, and here's the other responsibility. As believers, it's your responsibility to find out what that will is. Where does he want you to go? And again, to be really careful, be really cautious to only get feedback from those people who are trusted advisors that know the spirit. Oh, I know what I was gonna say earlier is my family, when I decided to leave my sales job to start my own sales training, even then my parents said, my dad said to me, why would you leave a company that gives you a free [00:45:00] car? And then they give you lunches. Two, what a what an idiot you are to leave that job, to start this training business. Well, that company, by the way, three or four years later, went bankrupt. So that was kind of a little get back at your dad moment there. And they sort of fine. But that's how people are thinking. They're well-meaning they're trying to protect you. But don't absorb their fear. Don't let their doubt come into your space. Sometimes you have to be extremely guarded about I'll call it the unbelief of others around you. When Jesus didn't chastise the disciples very often, but he chastised them about fear in the boat and the water. Mm-hmm. But he also chastised their unbelief when they couldn't heal the crippled individual who was come on, help me with the word Diana. Possessed. And they said, what? Why couldn't we cast out the devil? They said, because of your unbelief. So [00:46:00] sometimes we need to make sure that we guard ourselves and be around those people that really are there with us, Diana, on that side, I'm getting a little preachy now instead of just a podcast on those. I love it. I love it. But my, and we talk a lot about boundaries that you have to have boundaries, physical boundaries, as well as mental boundaries. Who are you hanging out with? Who are you allowing to influence you? That's super important. Oh, and in fact, I was talking about this on another, podcast just this morning that I was on, is that, the research is clear who you associate with matters, and the proof is, is that your five closest associates will be the highest level of influence. In other words, if we look at your five closest friends, I can almost predict. With certainty what you are going to be like, how you're gonna think, how you're going to act, because you're constantly influencing each other. Now I remember, and I know you're almost getting close to the end of the show, but one of my [00:47:00] colleagues, not a believer, but very wise guy, Dr. Marshall Goldsmith, one of the top coaches in the world, wrote the book Triggers and What Got you here won't get you there. And I was at an invite only event in New York with him and 20 or 30 other people in the coaching industry. And one of the things he stated, and this is so true, especially people with trauma and they have family, is that a lot of times you want to go to a new level. So Diana, you're going to a new level, you're doing the podcast, you're doing this ministry, you're growing, I'm growing. Your past, the people that you grew up in high school or the people that know you or your family, they wanna keep you where you were. They don't want to you to go where you're going. So an example is when I got my doctorate degree, we had a family dinner and it was kind of a celebration. And one of my family members said to me with almost with the stain, we are never calling you doctor. Hmm. And part of it is that they knew me for who I was 30 years ago. [00:48:00] And then of course I left the farm. I went on my own started to develop relationships and connections with amazing people around the world. Is that some, not that I'm better than them, but I am different. And so I don't really share what I do with my family members. And that's what Marshall was teaching in his group is that sometimes who you become doesn't fit the people that you used to hang out with. It doesn't mean you don't hang out with them. You just limit that you are being with your family. Diana, what are you doing? He says, well, I'm doing ministry work and I'm running a podcast and just really helping people to overcome trauma. And that's it. That's all it's done. We don't talk about the great people we met or 'cause what happens is you're seen as being arrogant and who do you think you are rather than colleagues where you're just sharing your excitement about this growth. Oh yeah. I had relatives come up to me 'cause they heard me, I was a guest on somebody else's podcast. Oh, she can't do that. You know, she's gonna hurt somebody. She's not a licensed counselor. She's not this, she's not that. [00:49:00] And I have had training. I get considerable training. I'm not a licensed counselor, but the program that I follow, was written by a trauma counselor and a theology professor. So that's called Mending the Soul, by the way. Mm-hmm. Anyway, yeah, they're definitely, we're all already people telling me, well, you shouldn't be doing that. Who are you? You're not some, super professional girl. You're just Diana, you're just an abuse survivor. That's all you are kind of thing. So, yeah. Well, what happens a lot of times is envy can come in, jealousy can come in. They wanna still contain you and me to who we were, but it's also still their perception is true with, one of my family members where, they go on, oh, you, you're always this person that talks too much. That's what my dad said to me when I was a teenager. And of course he was putting me down for my style and what I do. And it was interesting because even though he [00:50:00] says, Ken, you talk too much and put me down for my style. I was the person that asked to be m Mc of banquets when I was 16 and 17 years of age because I would be quick on my feet, I'd be able to have a responsiveness. And I also took. The responsibility of being an mc of a banquet. Seriously, because have you ever been to these banquets that's run by volunteers where you have just a terrible mc and they ruin the night? Oh yeah. Well, the opposite. I said, no. I take this as a profession. Mm-hmm. And recently, interesting enough, in spite of sort of the history, my dad has a group called The Pioneers, which are elderly people have been in our community for, 60, 70, 80, 90 years. And they asked me to be the mc. And so then I've done it for two years. They won't hold it this year. And people come and said, how are you able to do that? Because the people that were doing it before were on the board. They were, dementia was already setting in and they were trying to lead this banquet and it was just a [00:51:00] disaster, nice people. But they were way out of their element and they shouldn't have been MCing it. Here's a family trying to contain, you said, who do you think you are? Put you down for talking yet. It's my profession. It's what I do. I've been paid or have conducted 3000 presentations around the world in the last 32 years. Hello? What? Like, help me out here and just like your family, my dad is, just really unsure about what I really do. If I say I'm doing some speaking or training for like Chrysler, well, he gets that, but producing psychological tools and assessments and all the other work, like we were talking around purpose. No, they, they wouldn't get it. So part of, you know, all of that story from both of us for the viewers and listeners is that it's okay to move on, but also you don't have to share your new life with your old life. Yeah. And that you can be that person for them, but guard your [00:52:00] future sort of, expounding about what you're gonna do and writing these books and creating these e-course and all that kind of stuff, they don't care. They're not there. So it's interesting because my wife and I, when we go to family events we talk about emotional intelligence and we talk about interpersonal intelligence and we talk about self-awareness. But one of the things we do at family events, we, we have a game. We say, could we go all night with 20 people in the room with three hours a time? We're not a single person will ask us a question about us and we can do it multiple times. So we go to an event and Diana, how are you doing and what's new at the ministry? And, how's the family doing? And I heard you went on this trip, a gifted conversationalist is a person who asks questions, right? But what we note is that nobody asks myself or my wife a question. Now, there's the odd occasion where it does occur. It does happen, but it's extremely [00:53:00] rare. So people like to talk about themselves. So we might say, well listen, we're thinking about going to Hawaii. Oh, we went to Hawaii two years ago and we're over here. And all of a sudden they're telling a story, which is all about being self-centered about their trip to Hawaii two years ago. And we just shared what, where we're going to Hawaii. They didn't ask about where you're going, when you're going, who's going? No. They went on to their own. This is a conversational skillset that most of the population does not have. And by the way, for those of you watching play the game. Go out there and, don't talk about yourself. If somebody talks about something, make sure you respond to it, but then transition back to a question and see if you can go all night without anybody asking a question about yourself. And then here's the other one. Don't be offended by it. Give it up. Offense is a choice. You know, we talked about trauma and we talked about forgiveness, but being offended is also a choice. Mm-hmm. Dr. David's Burn's work around, trauma, if you've ever read his book feel good [00:54:00] is, I mean, it's got about 500 pages at four point font. Is that my response is always a choice. Yes. And even Dr. Gottman in his work around relationships is that once I get over 100 beats per minute non-athletic, I'm no longer rational. Well, that's where we have trauma. We have abuse, we have crazy things that happen. One of our number one constituents, we serve as law enforcement. So, Dr. Anderson, who founded the company, was a criminology professor. And then one of my co-authors, Dr. Mitch dti, teaches law enforcement officers emotional intelligence. What's the most dangerous situation for law enforcement to go into domestic dispute? Yes. Why? Because people are irrational. Mm-hmm. So I've let myself get ramped up. I'm now biologically I'm no longer in control of my emotions. Mm-hmm. And now I will say and do things that will regret. Now I'm completely [00:55:00] outta control. I mean, there was this situation that happened in Palm Springs a couple, two, three years ago where there was abusive situation carrying on. The officers broke up, the couple started to contain him, and then she got a gun out and killed both officers. Oh. So that's why officers in these environments, they said you have to watch your back because it's completely. Unpredictable as part of it. So I mean, there's obviously lots of things that we've covered today in the show and we've gone for our 55 minutes. Anything else, Diana, that you wanted to maybe poke your head into before we close? Well, we could go down a whole bunch of rabbit trails on a lot of things that you said. You said so many great nuggets. But maybe for our listeners, perhaps. Give like a list of actionable things that they can do right now. Now just before I do it, so that we don't miss you, I have a gift for everybody. Yes. And [00:56:00] so I'm gonna give you access to the e-copy, Of my the Quest for Purpose book in the get that is go to my speaker site, which is Ken Keys, K-E-N-K-E-I s.com/faithful. You'll in that hidden URL and of course you'll be able to put it in the show notes, Diana as well. Mm-hmm. Is that you'll be able to go there and then download the e version of the book. What I am sometimes shocked at is that I give away this book is that the amount of people who don't. Opt in to get the book. It is a roadmap, a step-by-step process to get clear about who and what and where, and what you should be doing in your life and all components. And now it's gonna take work, it's gonna take time, but where are you gonna be in six months if you don't do it? So, uh, it's there. I spent six months going through this process with my coach, Mike McManus, you know, driving three hours each way when it wasn't pertinent. So when I think about actionable steps, [00:57:00] and you think about people's lives, first of all, if you don't have a purpose in life, then your purpose is to find your purpose. And so that becomes the focus, rather than trying to say, I better be doing this, or I just take a breath. Allow yourself time and space. I've noticed that the Holy Spirit is never frantic. He is on time and he is moving forward, but he is never Fran frantic. And so, chaos is not from him. So just be peaceful, be quiet, and start paying attention and asking yourself this question, if you are doing what you're doing right now in all contexts of your life 20 years from now, is that okay? And if you say no, then that obviously infers change. So what is it that you're gonna move towards? Don't freak out. Don't try to do it all. I mean, if I'm trying to be a marathon runner this morning and then I said, I'm gonna run and do a marathon tonight, I'm gonna be dead. Just, I gotta [00:58:00] train for it. Yep. So life is the same way. The other one is for us and our resources, is that there's all different ways to get to clarity. So we have assessments and they're all learning assessments. So a values assessment, a self-worth assessment, a personality assessment we have a self-worth one I might have mentioned that already. And so all of those become puzzle pieces to create the clarity. The other one, Diana, is, is get a group that's gonna support you, look around and don't judge the five closest friend, but say are the five closest friends in a space that are gonna help you to go where you need to go. And sometimes one of my mentors used to say, you know what, Ken? Sometimes you need to fire clients. He says, why? He says, you've outgrown them. The client that you're serving now is not the client that you started with five years ago. So you know, like my fees and what I do is completely different than what it was 15 years ago. So [00:59:00] now start paying attention to that. And then the other thing is, is that life takes effort. If you get finish watching the show and do nothing and do no action steps, then you're gonna have the same thing tomorrow. So what are the steps that you can take? Start moving towards it, download the book. It's got a complete roadmap. And the other thing we'll make sure that my contact information is there, Diana, is that if people have questions, reach out, I'll respond as, as best as I can in the time that's allotted there. But I'll respond to you to be able to say, Hey, how can we help you or call you and your ministry? Mm-hmm. And some of the coaching that is available there. So that'll get you started. And again, don't try to do it all overnight. Just take one step at a time. The research shows is that if you try to three things at wants to change it, you have about a 15% likelihood of implementing it and a 75% success rate if it's just one thing. So one thing at a time, progress forward and keep listening to Diana's podcast. [01:00:00] And that should be the other step that they do too. Right. Wow, this was so awesome. I cannot wait to read that book and I hope that our listeners will download the book and get busy reading it and putting those things into practice. We will probably have to have you back again in the future because I can just tell you have so much more to share with us to help anytime to be able to serve and support and, you know, go granular in some of these other areas that we can talk about. For sure, anytime, Diana, So today, just choose one thing, one small thing to get you closer to your healing goals. God bless. Thank you for listening to the Wounds of the Faithful Podcast. If this episode has been helpful to you, please hit the subscribe button and tell a friend. 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For years, Dr. Deborah Heiser studied the pathology of aging, immersed in the nitty gritty of everything that can go wrong with your body as you get older. Until one day someone challenged her to find out what on earth we have to look forward to. And what she found surprised her. ”Honestly, there was a huge amount of research that was out there showing what we have to look forward to, but nobody was talking about it.” That's when she shifted her research about aging and what it actually offers.Today, Deborah tells us about the deeply satisfying stages that are ahead and how an aging population benefits everyone.In a culture that tells us that as we age, we matter less. Deborah wants everyone to know that as we mature, we matter more than ever before.About DeborahDr. Debbie Heiser is an Applied Developmental Psychologist with a specialty in midlife and beyond and is redefining what life after 40 looks and feels like. She has been featured at TEDx, Marshall Goldsmith 100 Coaches, Thinkers 50 Radar List, Psychology Today and is also an Adjunct Professor in the Psychology Department at SUNY Old Westbury.Linkshttps://mentorproject.org/https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborah-heiser-phdAbout The BreakoutThe Breakout is the hit podcast hosted by human resources and change experts Dr. Keri Ohlrich and Kelly Guenther. The founders of Abbracci Group, a results-driven coaching, HR Management and consulting firm, Keri and Kelly are laser-focused on getting the best out of people. They launched The Breakout in early 2023 to find the best stories and advice on busting boundaries and making change, and since then the show has charted #1 in self-improvement, #1 in education, and #7 in all podcasts. From huge transformations to quiet shifts, The Breakout highlights why every change matters. At Abbracci Group, Keri and Kelly offer a four-step coaching process to help you increase your self-awareness, break out of expectations, and live life on your terms.Keri and Kelly Links:Whatever the Hell You WantThe Way of the HR WarriorInstagram - @thebreakoutpodThe Breakout on FacebookYouTube Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this instructive episode, Deborah Heiser, Founder and CEO of The Mentor Project, shares strategies for effective mentorship in organizations. If you struggle with leadership development or succession planning, you won't want to miss it.You will discover:- Why mentorship fosters generativity for stage 5 legacy- How to implement hierarchical mentoring for team growth- What lateral mentoring enhances cross-functional collaborationThis episode is ideal for for Founders, Owners, and CEOs in stage 5 of The Founder's Evolution. Not sure which stage you're in? Find out for free in less than 10 minutes at https://www.scalearchitects.com/founders/quizDr. Deborah Heiser is an applied developmental psychologist, the CEO/Founder of The Mentor Project, and author of The Mentorship Edge. She is a TEDx speaker, a member of Marshall Goldsmith 100 Coaches, Thinkers 50 Radar List, an expert contributor to Psychology Today, and is also an Adjunct Professor.Want to learn more about Daphne Dickopf's work at The Mentor Project? Check out her website at https://www.deborahheiser.com/ and get a copy of her book The Mentorship Edge: Creating Maximum Impact through Lateral and Hierarchical Mentoring on Amazon at https://www.amazon.com/Mentorship-Edge-Unlocking-Potential-Nurturing/dp/1394267118/ref=sr_1_1You can also connect with her on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborah-heiser-phd/ or Instagram https://www.instagram.com/deborah_heisertmp/
Mentioned in this episode:Take the Founder's Evolution Quiz TodayIf you're a Founder, business owner, or CEO who feels overworked by the business you lead and underwhelmed by the results, you're doing it wrong. Succeeding as a founder all comes down to doing the right one or two things right now. Take the quiz today at foundersquiz.com, and in just ten questions, you can figure out what stage you are in, so you can focus on what is going to work and say goodbye to everything else.Founder's Quiz

Scott Keller: A CEO For All Seasons Scott Keller is a senior partner at McKinsey, where he coleads the firm's global CEO Excellence work within the Strategy & Corporate Finance Practice and serves as a global leader in the Organization Practice. He's a New York Times bestselling author and trusted advisor to boards, CEOs, and senior leadership teams, with whom he guides multiyear, enterprise-wide transformations that shape the future of institutions. His colleagues and him are the authors of the new book, A CEO For All Seasons: Mastering the Cycles of Leadership (Amazon, Bookshop)*. One of the most critical phases of taking on the top job is what you do at the start. Whether it's stepping into the role as president, general manager, executive director, owner, or CEO, starting well can make all the difference. In this conversation, Scott and I explore how to begin in the best way possible. Key Points One-third to one-half of new CEOs are considered to be failing within eighteen months of taking the role. Many wish they'd handled the transition differently. New CEOs enter a reality distortion field of many bosses (the board), no peers, and ultimate accountability for everything. The best CEOs guard against this by not making it about them. Ask questions that aren't about you, but the organization. Instead of, “How will I know if I'm successful?” ask, “How will we know if we're winning?” Beginning with a listening tour is essential. People will tell you things when you're new that they'll never say two or three years later. Create a fact-based, one version of the truth. Once you know it, keep to a single narrative for everyone. Err towards complete candor in the toughest realities. Prepare intensely for moments of truth, when they need to happen. Set clear boundaries and stay extremely disciplined. Your narrative and first moves should guide how you frame these. Resources Mentioned A CEO For All Seasons: Mastering the Cycles of Leadership (Amazon, Bookshop)* by Carolyn Dewar, Scott Keller, Vikram Malhotra, and Kurt Strovink Interview Notes Download my interview notes in PDF format (free membership required). Related Episodes How Top Leaders Influence Great Teamwork, with Scott Keller (episode 585) How to Genuinely Show Up for Others, with Marshall Goldsmith (episode 590) How to Start a Big Leadership Role, with Carol Kauffman (episode 617) Discover More Activate your free membership for full access to the entire library of interviews since 2011, searchable by topic. To accelerate your learning, uncover more inside Coaching for Leaders Plus.

**Think You're in Charge, But No One's on Board?**  You're steering the ship, yet it feels like you're sailing solo.Discover how to inspire true followers and turn your vision into a united mission!

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MichaelTimms—TEDx speaker, leadership development consultant, author, and founder of Avail Leadership—has empowered thousands of senior leaders to adopt powerful leadership habits and practices that drive measurable improvements in team performance, engagement, and results across organizations.  His latest book,How Leaders Can Inspire Accountability, provides leaders with practical strategies to help shift their teams from complacency and finger-pointing to a results-focused, continuous improvement mindset. The book has been described as “the ultimate guide for embracing accountability as a leader” by the world's #1 leadership coach, Marshall Goldsmith, and is the basis ofMichael's TEDx talk—How to Claim Your Leadership Power.

As we move through our careers and lives, many of us fall into habits that unintentionally hold us back. Whether it's underselling our contributions, striving for perfection, or waiting until we feel “fully ready” before stepping into new opportunities, these patterns can limit both our growth and our impact. For Sally Helgesen – our guest in Episode 241 of The Mindset Game® podcast – decades of research, writing, and coaching have centered on helping people and organizations break through these barriers. Recognized by Forbes as the world's premier expert on women's leadership, Sally has authored best-selling books including How Women Rise (co-authored with Marshall Goldsmith), The Female Advantage, and most recently Rising Together. Her work has been credited with bringing the language of inclusion into business and continues to influence professionals across the globe. In this week's episode, Sally shares the following: How to claim your contributions in a way that feels authentic and builds visibility. Why perfectionism creates unnecessary stress and keeps people from stepping into bigger opportunities. Practical ways to grow confidence, from enlisting allies to practicing new behaviors even when they feel uncomfortable. To learn more about Sally and her work, visit sallyhelgesen.com or explore her newsletter All Rise on Substack. To subscribe to The Mindset Game® podcast or leave a review, visit https://apple.co/3oAnR8I.

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Discover how to unlock the hidden potential in yourself and your team to become the bold, authentic leader the world needs. TEDx speaker and executive coach Pradeepa Narayanaswamy shares powerful insights from her book, "Practical Leadership," to help you build trust, lead with courage, and create a lasting impact—without sacrificing your well-being. Learn to simplify the complexity of leadership and reignite your spark to inspire those around you.

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Dr. Deborah Heiser is an applied developmental psychologist, author of The Mentorship Edge, and founder and CEO of The Mentor Project, a nonprofit that connects top 1% experts with students worldwide to provide free mentorship, giving away more than $3 million in mentorship hours last year alone. A TEDx speaker and recognized thought leader named to the Thinkers50 Radar List and Marshall Goldsmith's 100 Coaches, she also contributes to Psychology Today and serves as an Adjunct Professor. Known for her ability to translate research into practice, Dr. Heiser has grown The Mentor Project from a solo endeavor into a global community of over 100 mentors, demonstrating the transformative power of mentorship for both mentees and mentors while inspiring others to seek everyday opportunities to give and receive guidance.Deborah's Links:Website: http://www.mentorproject.orgInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/deborah_heisertmp/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborah-heiser-phd/The Impatient Entrepreneur's links:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheImpatientEntrepreneurPod⁠LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/theimpatiententrepreneurpod/⁠Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theimpatiententrepreneurpod/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheImpatientEntrepreneurPod⁠Online: https://www.theimpatiententrepreneurpod.comConnect with us⁠⁠: https://www.theimpatiententrepreneurpod.com/contact⁠Kwedar & Co.'s links:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kwedarco⁠LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kwedarco⁠Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kwedarco⁠YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KwedarCo⁠Online: www.kwedarco.comConnect with us: https://www.kwedarco.com/book-consultation

In this inspiring episode, we sit down with Amrit Ahuja — a trailblazing communication consultant, transformational coach, and the first Indian woman on the Cannes Lions Jury for Tech in PR. With over 30 years of experience across marketing, PR, digital media, and social impact, Amrit shares her remarkable journey from starting late in her career, leading roles at Meta, UNICEF, and the Michael & Susan Dell Foundation, to reinventing herself as a gig worker at 60.Why This Episode Matters:In today's fast-changing world of careers, purpose, and personal branding, Amrit's story is a powerful reminder that it's never too late to restart. Her journey shows how reskilling, self-discovery, and purpose-driven work can open new doors at any age. For anyone navigating career transitions, burnout, or the gig economy, this episode is packed with wisdom on embracing change, building resilience, and finding meaning beyond job titles.Highlights You Can't Miss:How to reinvent your career at any age and embrace the gig economy.The importance of personal branding when you no longer have a big company name backing you.Why purpose discovery is essential for a fulfilling career and life.The power of saying no to create balance and protect mental health.Micro-habits that help you stay energized, productive, and joyful every day.Lessons from representing India at the Cannes Lions Jury and the value of preparation.Connect with UsMohua Chinappa: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mohua-chinappa/The Mohua Show: https://www.themohuashow.com/Connect with the GuestAmrit Ahuja: https://www.instagram.com/amritahuja20/ References:Cannes Lions, Marshall Goldsmith, UNICEF, Michael & Susan Dell Foundation India    Follow UsYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheMohuaShowLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/themohuashow/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/themohuashowInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/themohuashow/More Episodes Like This:Saroj Dubey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqLwAprpXgM Megha Bajaj: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myfF_hNmnZY For any other queries EMAILhello@themohuashow.comDisclaimerThe views expressed by our guests are their own. We do not endorse and are not responsible for any views expressed by our guests on our podcast and its associated platforms.Thanks for Listening!

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Ready to unleash the hidden greatness in your leaders? In this electrifying episode of Build a Vibrant Culture, Nicole Greer sits down with Greg Smith, General Manager of Franklin Covey's Executive Coaching Practice, whose coaching success rate blows past 97%! Greg brings over 25 years of experience guiding leaders at powerhouse companies like Walmart, Deloitte, and Disney. Together, Nicole and Greg crack open what really happens when coaching becomes the engine for building a culture where leaders thrive — and why coaching is THE secret weapon for preventing those painful leadership derailments.Nicole and Greg dive deep into the magic of assessments, the game-changing question every leader must answer (“What's it like to experience you?”), and the frameworks that turn good leaders into great ones. You'll discover how to harness process tension (yes, that's a good thing!), raise your self-awareness, and lead with energy, courage, and clarity. This episode will leave you inspired to invest in coaching — for yourself, for your team, and for the future of your organization.Vibrant Highlights:[02:18] Coaching & Culture: Greg explains why leaders must “eat, drink, and sleep” their company's culture and how coaching helps them align with it[07:22] The Big Question: Nicole shares the powerful coaching question, “What is it like to experience you?” and how it transforms leaders' self-awareness[16:22] Defining Coaching: Greg distinguishes coaching from mentoring, consulting, and advising—and why only 50% of so-called “coaching” achieves results[23:23] Framework for Change: Greg breaks down Franklin Covey's four-stage coaching process: alignment, data, coaching, and transition[45:51] Process Tension: Learn how to create accountability and sustainable behavior change by making your goals visible to your stakeholdersConnect with Greg:Website: franklincovey.com/coachingGreg's Article:  The Four Secrets to Managing Executive Transitions: https://www.fastcompany.com/91352305/how-to-successfully-manage-executive-transitions-management-executive-tarnsitionsLinkedIn Personal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregsmith-fc/LinkedIn Corporate: https://www.linkedin.com/company/franklincovey/Also mentioned in this episode:The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen Covey: https://a.co/d/cjDUcJ0What Got You Here Won't Get You There by Marshall Goldsmith: https://a.co/d/8YxQ20YThe First 90 Days by Michael Watkins: https://a.co/d/7jtXQEkHope Is Not a Strategy by Sirisha Bamidipati & Harish Kumar: https://a.co/d/1pCgMiQListen at vibrantculture.com/podcast or wherever you listen to podcasts!Learn more about Nicole Greer, The Vibrant Coach, at vibrantculture.com.

Guest Bio Sarah McArthur is an accomplished editor, writer, and leadership thinker. She worked for over two decades alongside renowned executive coach Marshall Goldsmith, serving as managing editor on dozens of leadership books and co-authoring several works. Sarah was also mentored by the late Frances Hesselbein—one of the most influential leadership figures of the 20th century—becoming a close collaborator and friend. Today, Sarah continues to preserve and share Frances's legacy through writing, editing, and storytelling. Host Shannon Huffman Polson is a former Apache helicopter pilot, corporate veteran, keynote speaker, and author of The Grit Factor: Courage, Resilience, and Leadership in the Most Male-Dominated Organization in the World. She is the founder of The Grit Institute, where she equips leaders to build resilience, lead with purpose, and navigate challenges with impact. Episode Description In this episode of The Grit Factor, Shannon welcomes Sarah McArthur for a heartfelt conversation about the extraordinary life and leadership of Frances Hesselbein, former CEO of the Girl Scouts and recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Sarah shares her personal journey as Frances's mentee, collaborator, and friend, offering stories that illuminate Frances's unwavering humility, love, and commitment to service. Together, Shannon and Sarah explore what makes Frances's leadership so timeless and how her lessons can guide today's leaders through uncertainty, division, and change. Summary This episode is both a tribute and a toolkit for values-driven leadership. Listeners will hear: Sarah's path to working with Marshall Goldsmith and later meeting Frances Hesselbein. How Frances transformed the Girl Scouts into a thriving, values-centered movement. The power of mentorship, storytelling, and consistency of character. Lessons on resilience, integrity, and servant leadership that remain urgently relevant. How Frances's legacy continues through Sarah's work, including books and a documentary film. Highlights (00:00) Opening reflections on Frances Hesselbein's passing and the love she inspired. (02:51) Sarah's early work with Marshall Goldsmith and first encounters with Frances's writings. (05:54) The book Work Is Love Made Visible and Frances's profound influence. (10:54) Frances's vision-driven leadership and transformative years at the Girl Scouts. (17:16) The consistency of Frances's character across 107 years of life. (21:42) Lessons from the “cookie incident” and transparency in leadership. (25:08) Frances's “invisible tattoos” and storytelling as a teaching tool. (29:33) Sarah's decision to ask Frances to be her mentor. (33:56) Living and learning alongside Frances during her later years. (41:34) How Frances commanded respect and credibility across sectors. (44:35) Frances's timeless advice for today: We will get through this together. (47:27) Meeting Peter Drucker and forming a lifelong leadership partnership. (50:50) Three words to capture Frances's legacy: humility, love, and service. (53:13) “To serve is to live” — Frances's enduring purpose. (54:57) Sarah on carrying forward Frances's story through a documentary film.   Resources Website: https://www.sarahmcarthur.com/ https://www.hesselbeinforum.pitt.edu/ Email: sarah@sarahmcarthur.com Books: Work Is Love Made Visible: https://bookshop.org/a/15754/9781119513582 Hesselbein on Leadership: https://bookshop.org/a/15754/9781118717622 My Life in Leadership: https://bookshop.org/a/15754/9780470905739 Frances Hesselbein “Defining Moments” Documentary: https://youtu.be/ImQ0zQpTJec?si=Lv6u5il5NBKjN50W  

Do you ever feel like complaining eats up too much of your time and energy? You're not alone—research shows the average worker wastes more than 10 hours a month griping, especially about bosses and coworkers. In this episode of The BIGG Success Show, George and Mary-Lynn share 7 steps to complain effectively, so your issues actually get resolved instead of stuck in a cycle of negativity. Inspired by Peter Bregman's article in Harvard Business Review and Marshall Goldsmith's research, this episode will help you turn venting into problem-solving. By shifting from destructive to constructive complaining, you'll free up time, improve relationships, and feel more fulfilled.Takeaways: We complain about our bosses for an astounding ten hours every month on average. Effective complaining can actually save you up to ten hours of your month, so why not try it? By changing how we address complaints, we can transform negative energy into productive outcomes. Complaining the easy way feels good initially but ultimately leads to wasted time and frustration. BIGG Highlights:[00:02] Effective Complaining Strategies [03:19] Complaining: The Easy Way vs. The Effective Way [04:58] Effective Complaining Techniques [08:10] Effective Communication Strategies [11:04] Effective Complaint Resolution Techniques Links referenced in this episode:biggsuccess.comThe Abundant Living Kit

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Join Carmen Palmer, CEO of Women in Product, as she chats with Cassie Campbell, a fractional CPO coach and founder, about the insights from their powerful podcast series focused on product leadership coaching. This episode delves into the importance of coaching, distinguishing it from training, and its value for product leaders. They discuss key themes from the series, personal experiences, challenges, and the role of community, especially for Women in Product. Cassie also shares her journey and how coaching can uncover blind spots, foster growth, and enhance leadership quality. Whether you're a seasoned product leader or just starting, this episode offers valuable takeaways to navigate your career journey.00:00 Introduction and Host Transition00:36 Unpacking the Podcast's Focus on Leadership Coaching02:09 Themes from Top Coaches02:34 Customer Discovery and Outcome-Oriented Product Management04:19 The Importance of Context in Coaching10:53 Personal Takeaways and Blind Spots17:58 The Value of Executive Coaching25:23 Treating Learning and Development as a Product32:20 Navigating Financial Conversations in Product Leadership34:14 Behind the Scenes: Building the Podcast Series35:45 The Importance of Coaching in Product Leadership36:58 Key Takeaways from Podcast Production40:00 Addressing Team Challenges and Conflict47:55 The Role of AI in Product Management50:58 A Day in the Life of a Fractional CPO and Coach58:52 The Power of Community and Women in Product

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Marshall Goldsmith⁠ is one of the world's greatest thinkers on leadership. He has been recognized by Thinkers50 as the World's #1 Leadership Thinker and #1 Executive Coach. He is also a globally renowned keynote speaker and the New York Times bestselling author of several books, including Triggers, What Got You Here Won't Get You There, and The Earned Life. On this classic episode of The Elevate Podcast, Marshall returned to discuss his new AI-enabled coaching tool, the future of executive coaching, leadership, and much more. Thank you to the sponsors of The Elevate Podcast Shopify: ⁠shopify.com/elevate⁠ Indeed: ⁠indeed.com/elevate⁠ Found: ⁠found.com/elevate⁠ Fabric: ⁠meetfabric.com/elevate Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of Productivity Smarts, host Gerald J. Leonard sits down with Dr. Kim Nugent, a transformational leader, author, and mentorship expert who is changing lives behind bars.  With three master's degrees, a PhD, and executive coaching credentials from Marshall Goldsmith, Dr. Nugent shares how her career in hospitality, higher education, and corporate leadership led to her purpose-driven work in prisons across the country. She explains how structured peer mentorship, behavior change, and emotional intelligence can unlock a better future, not only for the incarcerated, but for anyone feeling stuck or overwhelmed. Dr. Nugent also discusses her groundbreaking book From Prison to Possibilities: Paving Your Path, a structured mentoring program designed to reduce recidivism and prepare incarcerated individuals for productive lives post-release. Together, Gerald and Kim explore how prison isn't always physical; it can be a mindset. Through her alphabetized 26-topic program (A-Z), Dr. Nugent empowers returning citizens with tools to discover purpose, build resilience, and contribute meaningfully to their communities. Her curriculum is now inspiring transformation in maximum-security facilities with zero rule violations among participants. What We Discuss [00:00] Introduction to Dr. Kim Nugent [4:11] Career journey from hospitality to higher education to prison reform [13:03] The birth of the book From Prison to Possibilities [21:05] Structure, behavior change, and the six-month model [28:19] Emotional intelligence and attitude shifts [31:57] Lifers and legacy: Purpose inside prison [36:42] Peer-led mentorship and accountability [41:00] PTSD, fixed mindset, and redefining success [45:28] Promotion Protocol: Career growth beyond incarceration [50:12] The power of saying “yes”—and learning from “no” [55:00] Advice for anyone stuck in a personal “prison” [59:35] Where to find Dr. Kim Nugent Notable Quotes [6:56] “When you know better, you do better.” – Dr. Kim Nugent [12:31] “Even in a no, there's an opportunity.” – Dr. Kim Nugent [13:42] “ Prison doesn't have to mean you're behind bars. You could be in prison mentally.” – Dr. Kim Nugent [25:41] “We've had zero rule violations from participants across all prisons involved in the program.” – Dr. Kim Nugent [38:49] “If you think you can or think you can't, you're right.” – Dr. Kim Nugent Our Guest Dr. Kim Nugent is a leading mentorship expert, executive coach, and author of From Prison to Possibilities and Promotion Protocol: Unlock the Secrets to Promotability and Career Success. Her structured peer-led mentorship model is being adopted in maximum-security prisons across the U.S., where she works to help inmates rediscover purpose and live more productive lives. Her methodology blends education, coaching, neuroscience, and real-world experience into an empowering curriculum based on 26 foundational topics from A to Z. With deep expertise in leadership, mentoring, and curriculum design, Dr. Nugent is on a mission to create lasting transformation, inside and outside prison walls. Resources Dr. Kim Nugent Website: https://www.drnugentspeaks.com Book: From Prison to Possibilities Book: Promotion Protocol: Unlock the Secrets to Promotability and Career Success   Productivity Smarts Podcast Website - productivitysmartspodcast.com   Gerald J. Leonard Website - geraldjleonard.com Turnberry Premiere website - turnberrypremiere.com Scheduler - vcita.com/v/geraldjleonard   Mentioned  Book: Deep Work by Cal Newport   Kiva is a loan, not a donation, allowing you to cycle your money and create a personal impact worldwide. https://www.kiva.org/lender/topmindshelpingtopminds  

Ever felt like your business is just as “ADHD-ish” as you are? This week on the ADHD-ish Podcast, I dove into an eye-opening conversation with Diane Mayor about how ADHD traits show up in our business, for better or worse. Diane Mayor is a business-model strategist who deeply understands that revenue is a dopamine number, but profit is a reality number and that you can't scale what you can't see. Diane has the kind of ADHD that makes systems and structure make sense, but she also knows that if it's not fun, it's not going to happen, so she makes sure that it is. If your business model looks sparkly on the front end, but is duct-taped together behind the scenes, don't even think about scaling before taking the lessons in this episode to heart. Here's what to listen for:Dopamine Is a Double-Edged SwordADHD brains seek stimulation, which fuels creativity and enthusiasm—but the excessive pursuit of new ideas can lead to chaos. The trick? Channel that energy into a structured “idea parking lot”—capture your sparks, but choose your focus.Systems Don't Kill Creativity—They Enable ItMany of us with ADHD bristle at the word “structure,” but minimum viable systems (even something as simple as a checklist instead of a 10-page SOP) create the freedom to play, innovate, and keep the momentum going.Rejection Sensitivity & Executive Dysfunction Are Sneaky SaboteursUncomfortable truth: your business can't scale if you get hijacked by every emotional reaction or caught up in decision paralysis. Building in “pause and process” moments—and asking for help where your brain's not wired to excel—protects both you and your team from ADHD inertia.You can absolutely harness ADHD as a strength in your business, but not if you ignore what makes your brain unique. The goal isn't to “fix” anything, but to build a business that works with your neurodivergence in mind.About Diane Mayor After a successful career in corporate finance, Diane transitioned to becoming a business model architect and systems aficionado, after discovering both her ADHD and her passion for untangling business chaos. She helps entrepreneurs create sustainable, scalable businesses built around their unique neurodivergence—not despite it.Website - LinkedIn - The 5- Minute Strategist Podcast - Strategic Business DiagnosticMentioned in this episode:Marshall Goldsmith's book “What Got You Here, Wont' Get You There.”Next Steps:“You can't scale what you can't see.” If this tagline lands, you might be ready for Diane Mayor's Business Blueprint, a laser-focused strategic business diagnostic for telling you exactly what to keep and what to toss before you scale. Click this link to book yours now. Not quite sure whether you want to scale? Click this link for a custom playlist of past ADHD-ish episodes to help

Special "Business Revenue Leak Checklist" offer free at http://www.mrse.co/leak.Mitchell Levy discusses his fascinating journey from overcoming childhood poverty to becoming a global credibility expert. He shares insights on entrepreneurship, the importance of taking extreme ownership, and how true success is found in serving others and living a life aligned with your purpose.Making It! explores the lives and stories of entrepreneurs as they share their unique perspectives on their success and the path to making it.“In business, success is measured by freedom, not material wealth. The freedom to make choices and live on your terms.”— Mitchell LevyGuest Bio:Global Credibility Expert Mitchell Levy is a 2x TEDx speaker, an internationally bestselling author of 60+ books, and an executive coach at Marshall Goldsmith's 100 Coaches. After interviewing 500 thought leaders on credibility, he published a 7-country international bestselling book, delivered a powerful TEDx on humanity, created courses, and created the Credibility Nation membership community to help those live, learn, and surround themselves with others on the credibility journey.He's an accomplished entrepreneur who has created twenty businesses in Silicon Valley including four publishing companies that have published more than 750 books. He's provided strategic consulting to hundreds of companies and has been the chairman of a board of a NASDAQ-listed company. Mitchell has been happily married for thirty-one years and prior to Covid-19, regularly spent four weeks a year in Europe with family and friends.Resources or websites mentioned in this episode:MiraseeMitchell's website: MitchellLevy.comCredits:Producer: Michi LantzEditor: Michi LantzAudio Editor: Marvin del RosarioExecutive Producer: Danny InyMusic Soundscape: Chad Michael SnavelyMaking our hosts sound great: Home Brew AudioMusic credits:Track Title: The Sunniest KidsArtist Name: Rhythm ScottWriter Name: Scott RoushPublisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONTrack Title: Sweet Loving WaltzArtist Name: Sounds Like SanderWriter Name: S.L.J. KalmeijerPublisher Name: A SOUNDSTRIPE PRODUCTIONTrack Title: Rain DropsArtist Name: Simon FolwarLicense code: 2AGMFIUFXJ9WKAOYPublisher Name: UppbeatTrack Title: CommanderArtist Name: AnuchLicense code: VVFRZM3265UBIH5IPublisher Name: UppbeatTrack Title: BrokenArtist Name: David BullardLicense code: IOGD2G0XZT8VTQK0Publisher Name: UppbeatSpecial effects credits:24990513_birds-chirping_by_promission used with permission of the author and under license by AudioJungle/Envato Market.To catch the great episodes coming up on Making It, please follow us on Mirasee FM's YouTube channelor your favorite podcast player. And if you enjoyed the show, please leave us a comment or a starred review. It's the best way to help us get these ideas to more people.Episode transcript: The Truth About Losing It All and Starting Over (Mitchell Levy) coming soon.

In this episode of Grow a Small Business, host Troy Trewin interviews Maria Nicholas Groves, founder of Talent Growth Partners, based in Milwaukee, USA. Starting in 2016, Maria built her talent advisory firm from $350K in year one to just under 2 million, growing 20% year over year. The business offers leadership development, coaching, fractional HR, and full-cycle recruiting with a team of 6 FTEs and 10 contractors. Maria shares how her team maintains an impressive Net Promoter Score of 88 by obsessing over client success. She also discusses the importance of culture, hiring for alignment, and consistently celebrating wins while scaling. Other Resources: An easy way to measure if your customers love you in 21 minutes – use the Net Promoter Score (NPS). And it's FREE. Why would you wait any longer to start living the lifestyle you signed up for? Balance your health, wealth, relationships and business growth. And focus your time and energy and make the most of this year. Let's get into it by clicking here. Troy delves into our guest's startup journey, their perception of success, industry reconsideration, and the pivotal stress point during business expansion. They discuss the joys of small business growth, vital entrepreneurial habits, and strategies for team building, encompassing wins, blunders, and invaluable advice. And a snapshot of the final five Grow A Small Business Questions: What do you think is the hardest thing in growing a small business? According to Maria Nicholas Groves, the hardest thing is balancing the need to consistently celebrate wins while also pushing toward future goals and ensuring the team stays aligned with the evolving vision. What's your favorite business book that has helped you the most? Maria Nicholas Groves shared that her favorite business book is What Got You Here Won't Get You There by Marshall Goldsmith, as it highlights the importance of staying agile and continually growing as a leader. Are there any great podcasts or online learning resources you'd recommend to help grow a small business? Maria Nicholas Groves shared that she starts each day with the Optimal Living Daily podcast. It's a short and diverse resource that helps set a positive mindset, drawing lessons from various authors and thought leaders. What tool or resource would you recommend to grow a small business? According to Maria Nicholas Groves, LinkedIn Learning is a great resource, along with leveraging AI tools like ChatGPT, CoPilot, or Gemini to increase efficiency. She also emphasizes understanding your personal learning style to maximize growth. What advice would you give yourself on day one of starting out in business? Maria Nicholas Groves shared that if she could give herself advice on day one, it would be: "Don't play small." She believes in going after big goals with confidence from the very beginning. Book a 20-minute Growth Chat with Troy Trewin to see if you qualify for our upcoming course. Don't miss out on this opportunity to take your small business to new heights! Enjoyed the podcast? Please leave a review on iTunes or your preferred platform. Your feedback helps more small business owners discover our podcast and embark on their business growth journey.     Quotable quotes from our special Grow A Small Business podcast guest: Building a kick-ass culture is just as important as having a healthy sales pipeline – Maria Nicholas Groves The companies that win are the ones that never take their eye off both sales and delivery – Maria Nicholas Groves Leadership is about aligning your team around vision while staying obsessed with client success – Maria Nicholas Groves      

How do you live a fulfilling life? It's not riches, it's impact and legacy.  In this episode, you will learn how you can quantify mentoring, volunteering, and philanthropy so you can better understand how much impact you make every day, how to build and leave a rewarding legacy, and how to create a highly generative life. We all want to have impact, whether it is at work, at home, or in our communities. And while we are striving to make an impact, we might not even realize the impact we're already making! There is a way to find out about our impact and just how deep our footprint is by understanding mentorship, legacy, and generativity. We'll also unpack the emotional science behind mentorship—and how to give, find, and recognize it when it's real. If you've ever craved guidance but didn't know how to ask… or if you've been called a mentor without knowing what that really meant… this conversation will name what's been missing.***ABOUT OUR GUEST:Dr. Deborah Heiser is an applied developmental psychologist, Founder of My Legacy Tree, and author of The Mentorship Edge. She is a TEDx speaker, member of Marshall Goldsmith 100 Coaches, Thinkers 50 Radar List, expert contributor to Psychology Today and is also an Adjunct Professor.***IF YOU ENJOYED THIS EPISODE, CAN I ASK A FAVOR?We do not receive any funding or sponsorship for this podcast. If you learned something and feel others could also benefit, please leave a positive review. Every review helps amplify our work and visibility. This is especially helpful for small women-owned boot-strapped businesses. Simply go to the bottom of the Apple Podcast page to enter a review. Thank you!***LINKS:www.gotowerscope.comhttps://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/the-hard-skills-dr-mira-brancu-m0QzwsFiBGE/https://deborahheiser.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborah-heiser-phd/ https://www.youtube.com/@DebbieHeiser https://substack.com/@deborahheiserphdTune in for this empowering conversation at TalkRadio.nyc

Sabina Nawaz: You're the Boss Sabina Nawaz is an executive coach who advises C-level executives and teams at Fortune 500 corporations, government agencies, nonprofits, and academic institutions. During her 14-year tenure at Microsoft, she went from managing software development teams to leading the company's executive development and succession planning efforts for over 11,000 managers and nearly a thousand executives, advising Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer directly. She's the author of You're the Boss: Become the Manager You Want to Be (and Others Need)*. Every leader I know intends to be authentic. Unfortunately, we sometimes use authenticity as an excuse not to do the critical work of calibrating our actions. In this conversation, Sabina and I discuss how to avoid that trap so we can show up more genuinely for others. Key Points “Yeah, but…” signals justification and holds us back from what we most need to learn. Your success comes despite unhelpful traits, not because of them. Pure authenticity is a complete fallacy. Authenticity is not singular. We sometimes use authenticity as an excuse not to do the important work of calibrating our actions. Don't let the smokescreen of past “authenticity” get in the way of growth. Authenticity is not static. Reading your old past social media posts will remind you of this. When shifting, start with small experiments to nudge you in a new direction. Language that may be warning signs of the authenticity trap: “That's just how I am.” “I'm not the kind of person who…” “I'm not being true to myself if…” “That's the way I've always done things, and it's worked for me.” Resources Mentioned You're the Boss: Become the Manager You Want to Be (and Others Need)* by Sabina Nawaz Interview Notes Download my interview notes in PDF format (free membership required). Related Episodes How to Change Your Behavior, with BJ Fogg (episode 507) How to Start a Big Leadership Role, with Carol Kauffman (episode 617) The Habits That Hold Leaders Back, with Marshall Goldsmith (episode 696) Discover More Activate your free membership for full access to the entire library of interviews since 2011, searchable by topic. To accelerate your learning, uncover more inside Coaching for Leaders Plus.

Send us a text"You can never be happy and find peace with more. You can also never be happy and find peace with less. You can only be happy and find peace with what you have – and that can only happen right here, right now."These profound words from Dr. Marshall Goldsmith encapsulate the wisdom shared in this extraordinary conversation. From the son of a gas station owner in rural Kentucky to becoming the world's top executive coach, Marshall's journey exemplifies how an ordinary person can achieve extraordinary things while maintaining humility and purpose.Marshall takes us through pivotal moments that shaped his philosophy – from overcoming the limiting belief that he had "no mechanical aptitude," to witnessing heartbreaking poverty in Africa during a famine, to learning servant leadership from the remarkable Frances Hesselbein. His stories aren't just entertaining; they're transformative lessons about recognizing our self-imposed limitations and finding meaning in service to others.What stands out most is how Marshall has distilled decades of coaching the world's top executives into actionable wisdom anyone can apply. His six daily questions practice (starting with "Did I do my best to...") offers a simple but powerful framework for meaningful change. And his admission that even he – the creator of this method – needs someone to hold him accountable speaks volumes about both human nature and the importance of structured support systems.Throughout our conversation, Marshall exemplifies the rare combination of brilliant insight delivered with genuine warmth. Whether discussing Buddhist philosophy, the psychology of leadership, or the power of authentic gratitude, he communicates complex ideas with remarkable clarity and heart. His mission statement has simplified with age: "I want to help you, a real human being, have a little better life."Ready to transform your approach to leadership, relationships, and personal fulfillment? Visit marshallgoldsmith.com for free access to his documentary, articles, and coaching resources – and start asking yourself those six daily questions today.https://www.marshallgoldsmith.com/Support the showhttps://bamboolab3.com/

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Sanyin Siang is Derek's amazing featured guest this week! Sanyin shares highlights from her journey, and how to accept positive affirmations and constructive criticism as data points in your life, importance of being generous, and how to be vulnerable.Sanyin helps leaders launch and create value by focusing on mindset, behavioral change, and team and culture building. Sanyin is a CEO Coach, Advisor, Author,the Executive Director of Duke University's Fuqua/Coach K Center on Leadership & Ethics (COLE) and a Professor with its Pratt School of Engineering.The COLE center is a leadership laboratory that engages all of Duke's Daytime MBA students and convenes high-level think tank gatherings to explore today's complex leadership opportunities and challenges.Sanyin coaches C-suite executives and is in the original cohort of Marshall Goldsmith's 100 Coaches. She is an advisor for GV (former Google Ventures), Duke Corporate Education, and the Sports Innovation Lab. Her thought leadership has appeared in Forbes, Fortune, The Wall Street Journal, and CNN. She has more than 1 million LinkedIn followers. She is a LinkedIn Top 10 Influencer and a Thinkers50 On the Radar.Sanyin's board service has included those of The Emily K Center, The Museum of Life & Science, Duke Children's Hospital & Health Center. She is a Sr. Advisor with Dan Ariely's Center for Advanced Hindsight and a faculty with StoryLab at Duke. She has spoken to audiences from the White House to Global Sports Management and Owners Summits.Prior to Duke, Sanyin worked at the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), the world's largest federation of scientific and engineering societies, and publisher of Science. Her initiatives explored the ethical, social, and legal implications of technological advances before they became reality.Her book The Launch Book: Motivational Stories for Launching Your Idea, Business, or Next Career, uses behavioral science principles to help readers build the mindset for addressing major change.Sanyin received a BSE in Biomedical Engineering and an MBA from Duke University.Order "The Launch Book": https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074JC5L9V/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0