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This is the Forest School podcast, where Gemma and Lewis talk in depth about Forest School, book reviews and child development in the UK. Children of the Forest Links; Bookings & Training: https://www.children-of-the-forest.com Patreon: https:/

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    Ep 213: Is making kids tidy up a part of Forest School?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 9, 2025 58:30


    In this episode, Lewis and Wem are joined by Justine from Curious and Kind Nature Play in Florida. The conversation began when all three spoke at a webinar hosted by Peter Gray and quickly turned into a shared curiosity around the tensions of tidying up in play-based education.This is not a how-to guide. It is a rich exploration of roles, expectations, neurodivergence, community care, and the invisible moral weight we place on children when it comes to cleaning up. Whether you model tidying, mandate it, ignore it entirely, or wrestle with it daily, this episode invites you to reflect deeply on what your approach communicates about power, responsibility, and play.

    Ep 210:

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 22, 2025 42:19


    This week, Lewis is solo in the woods reflecting on a big question: what makes a Forest School site feel alive with history? 

    Ep 209: ‘Forecasting' or being ‘Triggered'? How do you react to uncomfortable play?

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 15, 2025 35:38


    Ep 206: Nature Saturation: Can You Have Too Much?

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 14, 2025 54:20


    Ep 205 - How Schools Push Kids to Burnout: A Conversation with Dr Naomi Fisher

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 7, 2025 61:36


    This week, we sit down with Dr Naomi Fisher, psychologist and co-author of The Teenager's Guide to Burnout, to discuss how modern schooling, social media, and pressure to achieve are pushing teens towards burnout.

    Ep 204: Season 2 Begins: Lone Working, Weird Job Titles & Fart Consultancy

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 31, 2025 52:54


    Welcome back to The Forest School Podcast! In this episode, we dive into the realities of lone working in outdoor education, the unexpected (and hilarious) responsibilities of a Forest School leader, and the importance of connection in a role that can often feel isolating.

    Ep 203: How Transparent Should You Be With Your Planning? With Lily Horseman

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 4, 2025 63:26


    Episode SummaryIn this lively and wide-ranging episode, Lewis sits down with Lily Horseman (Kindling Playwork) to explore how transparent you should be when planning Forest School sessions. They discuss the balance between being honest with children, parents, and fellow educators while preserving the magic of play and spontaneity. You'll hear fascinating insights into building trust, navigating tangents, and making space for child-led exploration. Expect plenty of unexpected side quests, real-life anecdotes, and practical tips for Forest School leaders, early years practitioners, and nature enthusiasts.

    Ep 202: Can Rory Sutherland's 'Alchemy' Transform your Forest School Business?

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 13, 2024 41:49


    Welcome back to the Forest School Podcast! In this episode, we dive into the intriguing ideas from Rory Sutherland's book Alchemy and explore how they can transform your Forest School practice. From the power of creative chaos to the impact of trust and training, this episode offers fresh perspectives for Forest School leaders, educators, and nature enthusiasts alike.

    Ep 201: Should YOU Know A Tree As An Individual Or A Species? w/ Casey and Alex from Completely Arbortrary

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 29, 2024 64:22


    ↓Click here for Limited Edition 'Magic in the Mud' merch! ↓ www.children-of-the-forest.com/forestsschoolpodcastshop What does it mean to truly know a tree? In this episode of the Forest School Podcast, we're joined by Casey Clapp and Alex Crowson, hosts of the Completely Arbortrary podcast, to explore the fascinating tension between knowing trees as species and connecting with them as individuals. With Casey's arborist expertise and Alex's creative perspective, this conversation is full of surprising insights and heartwarming anecdotes that will forever change the way you see the trees around you. From personal stories of childhood tree connections (00:46:00) to the science of epicormic growth as a survival strategy (00:13:00), and even the heroic tale of the 250-year-old Overlook Oak saved from development (00:47:00), this episode is a deep dive into the magic of trees. Key moments include Casey's explanation of how naming a tree can deepen our connection by opening doors to patterns in nature (00:24:00), and Alex's take on how trees can serve as archetypes, representing broader narratives that connect us to the natural world (00:21:00). We also discuss the role of community in forming collective bonds with specific trees, like the symbolic Robin Hood Tree, and the fascinating cultural significance of heritage trees across the globe (00:32:00). A standout quote from Casey: “When you get to know a tree's name, it's like seeing an old friend—you recognize its story and place in the world.” Listeners will walk away with actionable takeaways, including how to introduce children to tree identification, use storytelling to foster emotional connections with nature, and see trees as metaphors for resilience and growth. Resources and tools mentioned include Casey's upcoming book on urban tree identification, the inspiring story of Australia's tree billboards, and a nod to Tolkien's deeply rooted (pun intended) fascination with individual trees. If you've ever wondered how trees connect us to the world around us, this is the episode for you! Listen now to be inspired by the stories, science, and symbolism of trees. Don't forget to subscribe, share this episode with your community, and leave a review to support our work. Find us on Spotify, YouTube, Apple Podcasts, and via our RSS feed:

    Ep 200 BONUS: Oops, All Song Wars!

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 23, 2024 48:06


    Dive into the chaos, creativity, and comedy that is Song Wars! In this special episode, we've compiled all the musical gems from past episodes, including the hilariously self-indulgent chats that led to their creation. From heartfelt ballads about tagging games to unexpectedly funky anthems about bin juice and wet ropes, this is a Forest School Podcast experience like no other. Whether you're here for a laugh or want a glimpse into the unfiltered madness of our musical endeavours, you're in for a treat. What's Inside (with Timestamps): [00:10] The Birth of Song Wars: Why we started writing these ridiculous songs. [02:08] "Sideways Rain": A love-hate ode to the challenges of outdoor life in the rain. [09:13] "Wind Speed": A manic yet relatable anthem for forest school leaders battling unpredictable weather. [17:06] "Run, Run" – A playful tagging game song capturing the exhaustion and humor of chasing children. [19:06] "Tag, You're It" – A rap-inspired track from the perspective of a competitive tag player. [23:04] "Bin Juice Blues" – A sensory overload ballad about compost cleanup nightmares. [29:49] "Wet Rope" – A pirate-tinged dance number inspired by the frustrations of knot-tying. [39:32] "The January Blues Song" – A darkly comedic folk track reminding us that winter isn't over yet. [43:22] Corvid Taxonomy Song: A listener-submitted poetic roast on bird misidentification.

    Ep 200: Listener Questions and looking back over 6 years and 200 episodes.

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 22, 2024 51:51


    ↓Click here for Limited Edition 'Magic in the Mud' merch! ↓ www.children-of-the-forest.com/forestsschoolpodcastshop Summary: In this milestone 200th episode, hosts Lewis and Wem reflect on their podcasting journey, discussing the evolution of their content, memorable guest interviews, and the growth of the Forest School movement. They explore the integration of technology in outdoor education, the importance of inclusivity, and share personal anecdotes that have shaped their perspectives. Timestamps: 00:01 – 00:09: Celebrating 200 episodes and the podcast's evolution. 08:50 – 09:30: Memorable guest insights, including Naomi Fisher and Merlin Sheldrake. 13:21 – 14:08: Transition from activity-focused content to deeper discussions. 14:12 – 14:40: Dream field trips to unique outdoor education settings. 21:12 – 22:39: Debate on the role of technology in Forest School. 27:14 – 28:56: Wishlist of future podcast guests, from philosophers to modern educators. 28:40 – 28:54: Philosophical musings on play and education. 18:44 – 19:28: Gratitude to listeners and aspirations for future episodes. Resources Mentioned: Naomi Fisher's Work: Dr. Naomi Fisher is a clinical psychologist specializing in trauma, autism, and alternative learning methods. Explore her publications and insights on her official website: Naomi Fisher Merlin Sheldrake's Research: Merlin Sheldrake is a biologist and author known for his work on fungi and mycorrhizal networks. Learn more about his research and publications here: Merlin Sheldrake Nonviolent Communication: Nonviolent Communication (NVC) is a communication process developed by Marshall Rosenberg. It focuses on empathetic listening and expressing needs without judgment. Find more information at the Center for Nonviolent Communication: For the Wild The Art of Holding Space: This concept involves supporting others without judgment, maintaining an open and empathetic presence. For a comprehensive guide, refer to Heather Plett's work: Subscribe to the Forest School Podcast on your preferred platform to stay updated with our latest episodes. Leave a review to share your thoughts and help others discover the show. Follow us on social media for updates and discussions: Forest School, outdoor education, podcasting journey, inclusivity in education, technology in outdoor learning, nonviolent communication, play-based learning.

    Ep 199: How to Handle Unsafe Play in Your Sessions

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2024 43:16


    When is it okay to step into a child's play? In this episode, we explore the delicate art of intervening in play cycles, discussing when to annihilate or contain play, how to navigate safety concerns, and ways to maintain emotional and physical balance. Join us for actionable insights, real-life scenarios, and strategies for reflective practice that will help you confidently manage play in your Forest School. Perfect for leaders, educators, and playworkers looking to refine their approach! 0:00 – Introduction: Why this episode is essential for Forest School leaders 1:15 – Overview of play cycles and key terms (annihilation, adulteration, containment) 6:00 – When and why to intervene in play cycles 8:30 – Balancing physical and emotional safety during risky play 12:00 – Practical techniques for reflective interventions 18:00 – Containment vs. adulteration: Avoiding adult agendas 19:50 – How to read nonverbal cues to guide interventions 23:00 – Collaborative play observation and group dynamics 26:25 – Strategies for managing hierarchies and power structures in play 30:00 – Wrap-up: Key takeaways and reflection exercises Play Types by Bob Hughes: Learn more here The Play Cycle Handbook by Perry Else and Gordon Sturrock: Purchase here Forest Pedagogy by Jon Cree and Marina Robb: Explore the book Articles on reflective playwork practices: Visit this resource

    Ep 198: Is YOUR Outdoor Provision just résumé building for children?

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2024 40:55


    Summary:In this episode, we explore the purpose of Forest School as a space for children to engage in free play, build social connections, and experience the joy of childhood without the pressures of traditional, outcome-driven education. Discover why Forest School stands as a community resource, supports mental health, and challenges the idea of “resume-building” for children. Episode Highlights: Free Play vs. Structured Learning: How unstructured play in Forest School supports mental health and holistic growth. Forest School as a Community Resource: The ripple effects of Forest School on families and communities, fostering environmental stewardship and shared values. Beyond Resume-Building: The limitations of an achievement-focused childhood and how Forest School offers a different path. The Mental Health Benefits of Nature-Based Learning: Why time spent in nature is essential for children's well-being and resilience. Embracing “Pissing About”: The value of unstructured, joyful exploration and why it's a radical act in today's productivity-focused world. Timestamps: [00:05] Introduction to the theme: Free play and its role in childhood [05:05] Why treating childhood as resume-building affects mental health [11:51] Forest School as a community asset and environmental stewardship [13:24] The importance of unstructured time in Forest School [18:18] Encouraging outdoor leaders to preserve free play Resources Mentioned: Peter Gray's Research – Gray's studies on free play, childhood mental health, and inequality “Free to Learn” by Peter Gray – Gray's book on childhood play and education Forest School Community Hub – Resources and connections for Forest School leaders Key Quotes: “Forest School isn't about preparing kids for the future; it's about giving them the space to experience joy and curiosity right now.” “In a world of metrics and outcomes, Forest School stands as a rare place where children can simply be.” Join the Conversation: How do you incorporate free play into your sessions? Join us on social media and share your thoughts! Find us everywhere:

    Ep 197: Is Verbal Language Bias Shaping Your Forest School?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2024 43:34


    Summary In this episode, Lewis explores the biases surrounding verbal and nonverbal communication within the context of forest school training. He discusses the importance of recognizing and addressing these biases to create a more inclusive environment for participants. The conversation delves into various aspects of communication, including play cues, emotional expressions, and the impact of verbal hierarchies. Lewis emphasizes the need for forest school leaders to value nonverbal communication and consider its role in fostering connections among participants. Takeaways The forest school training emphasizes intentional decision-making. Verbal and nonverbal communication biases can impact participant interactions. Non-judgmental approaches are essential in forest school settings. Communication barriers can arise from emotional overwhelm or language differences. Play cues often involve nonverbal communication that should be recognized. Apologies can take many forms beyond verbal expressions. Verbal hierarchies can create barriers in communication with children. Nonverbal communication is a key aspect of forest school leadership. Forest school leaders are uniquely positioned to value nonverbal cues. Reflecting on communication practices can enhance inclusivity. Chapters 00:00 Unpacking Intentional Communication 05:41 Exploring Language Bias in Communication 09:00 The Role of Nonverbal Cues 14:37 Play Cues and Communication Dynamics 17:26 Apologies and Emotional Expressions 20:19 Verbal Hierarchies and Participation 23:42 Nonverbal Communication in Nature 26:39 Reflecting on Practice and Inclusivity 42:13 Exploring Bias in Communication 42:44 Engagement with Participants 43:11 Community and Reflective Practices 43:22 podcast clips rooster.mp3

    196: Why YOUR School Needs More Stories Like Jojo & Gran Gran with Laura Henry-Allain

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 24, 2024 47:28


    Summary:In this episode of The Forest School Podcast, host Lewis Ames sits down with Laura Henry-Allain MBE, author, consultant, and creator of the beloved children's show Jojo & Gran Gran. They explore the importance of representation in early years education, how to create inclusive learning environments, and why conversations about diversity should start early. Laura shares practical advice for parents and educators, emphasizing the power of storytelling in fostering empathy and understanding. Tune in to learn how YOU can make a difference in your classroom, Forest School, or home learning environment. Key Takeaways: The role of diverse stories in shaping children's understanding of the world. How to introduce age-appropriate conversations about race and inclusion. Practical ways to make your learning environment a space where every child feels seen. The “mirrors, windows, and sliding doors” approach to representation in books. Why outdoor educators should consider diverse experiences when designing activities. Timestamps: [01:26] – Laura introduces herself and her journey in early years education. [03:19] – The creation of Jojo & Gran Gran and its impact on diverse storytelling. [07:06] – Discussing the importance of diversity in books and media for children. [14:03] – Why it's crucial to talk about race with young children. [18:02] – How parents can be anti-racist role models through everyday actions. [27:15] – Laura's guide for early years educators on promoting inclusion. [37:47] – Reflections on Laura's grandmother's legacy and its influence on her work. Guest Information:Laura Henry-Allain MBE is a celebrated author and early years consultant known for her work in children's media and literature. She is the creator of the TV series Jojo & Gran Gran, which highlights the importance of familial bonds and cultural representation. Laura has written several books that explore themes of inclusion and diversity, such as My Skin, Your Skin. Connect with Laura on her website laurahanryelaine.com. Links to Resources Mentioned: Jojo & Gran Gran (TV Series) My Skin, Your Skin by Laura Henry-Allain MBE Research on early childhood development and race recognition Call to Action:Enjoyed this conversation? Subscribe to The Forest School Podcast and leave us a review! Share this episode with fellow educators and parents to help spread the message of inclusion in early years education. Follow the links to listen:

    Ep 195: How Scripts Can Transform Your Toughest Parenting Moments With Kirk Martin

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 17, 2024 62:38


    In this enlightening conversation, Lewis Ames is joined by Kirk Martin from the Calm Parenting Podcast to delve into the powerful tool of scripting in parenting—especially when dealing with strong-willed children. They explore how pre-planned scripts can offer parents practical phrases to navigate emotionally charged situations, while helping kids feel understood and secure. The episode emphasizes the importance of modeling language and behavior, maintaining consistency, and adjusting scripts as needed. Key takeaways include strategies for balancing authority and empathy, understanding emotional responses, and the role of curiosity and tone in effective communication. If you're a parent, educator, or outdoor leader looking for actionable tips, this episode offers insight into how scripting can transform your approach in challenging moments. For more insights, visit www.theforestschoolpodcast.com and join us on Patreon for exclusive content! Chapters: 00:00 – Introduction to Kirk and Calm ParentingLewis introduces Kirk Martin, the host of Calm Parenting Podcast, and highlights his approach to working with children through nonviolent communication and practical scripts. 04:34 – Understanding Strong-Willed ChildrenKirk dives into the characteristics of strong-willed kids and why traditional parenting techniques often backfire with them. 07:33 – The Importance of Scripting in ParentingLearn how using pre-planned scripts can help parents stay calm and provide consistency in tricky situations. Kirk shares examples of go-to phrases that make kids feel heard. 10:36 – Practical Applications of ScriptingKirk and Lewis discuss how to adapt these scripts to various parenting or teaching scenarios, including outdoor learning environments. 13:32 – Modeling Language for KidsThey explore the importance of parents and educators modeling the kind of respectful, calm communication they expect from children. 16:40 – Consistency in Parenting ApproachesKirk explains how sticking to scripts and being consistent with boundaries helps children feel safe and secure. 22:27 – Navigating Emotional ResponsesWhat do you do when kids' emotions are running high? Kirk talks about using scripts to acknowledge kids' feelings while guiding them through their emotions. 25:30 – Scripts for Effective CommunicationDiscover specific scripts that can diffuse tense moments and help children open up in more productive ways. 28:13 – Using Humor and Relatability in ScriptsKirk emphasizes the importance of humor in scripts to make communication feel lighter and more relatable to children. 31:15 – Creating Space for Processing IdeasThe value of giving kids space after you use a script, allowing them time to think and calm down. 34:11 – The Dynamics of Parenting and CommunicationThey discuss the flow between authority and empathy in parenting and teaching, and how scripts can strike the perfect balance. 37:12 – Scripting Conversations: The Art of Flow ChartsKirk shares how you can think of scripts like flow charts, with different responses depending on how the child reacts. 39:42 – When Scripts Fail: Embracing AuthenticityKirk discusses the importance of flexibility—sometimes scripts don't work, and that's okay. Authentic responses have their place too. 43:43 – Physical Movement and Emotional Processing"Motion changes emotion." Learn how getting kids physically active can help them work through emotional responses. 47:48 – Curiosity and Active Listening in Conflict ResolutionKirk and Lewis explore how curiosity can be a game-changer in de-escalating conflicts. Ask questions like, "What's frustrating you the most right now?" 52:24 – The Power of Honesty and Tone in CommunicationHow being honest and using the right tone in your scripts can foster deeper connections and better emotional regulation in kids. 56:39 – Understanding Emotional Responses and ValidationThe episode wraps up with a focus on validating emotions and helping children feel understood, even when they're struggling to express themselves. For more helpful advice and resources, be sure to visit www.theforestschoolpodcast.com, and support the show on Patreon for exclusive content and perks! Links to Resources: Check out Kirk Martin's Calm Parenting Podcast for more of his advice and insights: www.calmparentingpodcast.com Learn more about the Forest School Podcast: www.theforestschoolpodcast.com Don't forget to subscribe to the Forest School Podcast on your favorite platform for more tips, strategies, and insights into parenting, outdoor education, and alternative learning approaches!

    Ep 194: How YOU Can Run Intergenerational Projects That Work with Kendra McWilliam

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 10, 2024 60:06


    Episode Summary:In this episode, we chat with Kendra McWilliam about making Forest School accessible to people of all ages, abilities, and backgrounds. Kendra shares her insights on adapting sessions for diverse needs, running intergenerational projects, and securing funding for community-driven outdoor projects. You'll learn actionable strategies to transform YOUR sessions into more inclusive and engaging spaces. Main Points & Timestamps: [02:45]: Understanding the Barriers to Inclusivity – Kendra discusses common barriers that prevent people from accessing Forest School and how to identify and address them. [07:10]: Creating Intergenerational Projects – The benefits of bringing together different age groups to build community and share skills. [15:32]: Adapting Sessions to Meet People Where They Are – Examples of flexible session formats, from home-based sessions to urban settings. [22:18]: Strategies for Securing Grant Funding – How Kendra's team won a £58,000 grant and advice for others looking to fund their projects. [30:47]: Balancing Sustainability and Accessibility – Blending paid services with grant-funded programs to support long-term project goals. Guest Introduction:Kendra McWilliam is an experienced Forest School practitioner who focuses on making nature-based education accessible to everyone, regardless of age or ability. She's been running inclusive community projects for over a decade and is passionate about building spaces where everyone feels welcome and engaged. Resources Mentioned: Kendra's Community Project Website Grant Application Tips and Tools Call to Action:If YOU found this episode helpful, make sure to subscribe and leave us a review! Follow us on Spotify or Apple Podcasts to catch new episodes every week, and check out the full show notes on our website.

    Ep 193: 10 Hacks to learn bushcraft faster than I did!

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 5, 2024 46:17


    Summary In this episode of the Forest School Podcast, Lewis discusses various aspects of outdoor education, focusing on cooking, bushcraft skills, and the importance of continuous learning. He shares insights from his books, 'Forest School Cooking' and 'The Myths of Outdoor Play and Learning', and offers practical tips for engaging children in outdoor play, especially during winter. The conversation emphasizes the value of peer learning, practical skills, and the importance of reflection in personal growth. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Overview of Bushcraft Skills 08:10 Engaging Kids in Outdoor Play During Winter 08:37 Reflecting on Learning from Experience 15:14 Creating a Culture of Continuous Learning 17:11 Fire Lighting Techniques and Best Practices 23:29 Mastering Knots and Practical Applications 26:53 Identifying Flora and Fauna 30:13 Knife Skills and Practical Projects 31:34 The Importance of Practical Projects 35:37 Building Skills Through Repetition 40:58 The Value of Peer Learning 44:46 Reflecting on Progress and Skills 45:43 podcast clips - fart end.mp3 45:52 Patreon 5.mp3

    Ep 192: Unconventional Essentials for Mud Kitchens

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 26, 2024 62:41


    Have you ever wondered what small changes could make a huge impact in your mud kitchen setup? In this episode, Lewis and Wem dive into their quirky, practical, and unconventional tips for transforming your mud kitchen into a space of creativity, independence, and fun! Timestamps: [00:02] – Jangly energy and funny rain stories. [03:00] – Talking about animals in messy homes: humor in parenting. [05:31] – First mud kitchen tip: Eyelet-punched tea towels. [08:30] – The importance of sensory play in the mud kitchen. [09:45] – What counts as a mud kitchen? The variety of setups. [13:00] – Creating multiple eating spots for kids in the mud kitchen. [19:00] – Recipe posters: Are they helpful or harmful to play? [27:40] – Cleaning the mud kitchen: Brushes, hooks, and “wok brushes.” [32:00] – How hooks everywhere can revolutionize tidying up. [39:00] – Introducing currency in mud kitchens: Wood cookie money. [44:00] – Foraged items in the mud kitchen: Bringing nature into play. Referenced Works: The Tiger Who Came to Tea by Judith Kerr

    Ep 191: What Neurodivergent Kids Gain from Nature with Dr Sam Friedman

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 20, 2024 73:29


    Do traditional school structures harm neurodivergent students? Can nature-based learning be the solution? In this episode, we dive deep into how Forest Schools can create more inclusive environments for neurodivergent learners. Our guest shares groundbreaking research on the benefits of nature for autistic students, challenges the romanticization of outdoor spaces, and discusses how autonomy, trust, and competence play key roles in educational success. How can you ensure you're not unintentionally causing harm? Are your Forest School practices as inclusive as they could be? Tune in to discover practical strategies for creating a truly inclusive, nature-based educational setting. Chapter Titles & Timing: Intro and Guest Background (00:00 - 05:30) Visit theforestschoolpodcast.com for more insights. Autism, Nature, and Forest Schools (05:31 - 15:45) What's the intersection of nature and neurodivergence? The Challenges of Outdoor Learning (15:46 - 25:00) How do we avoid romanticizing nature and ignoring reality? Autonomy and Trust in Outdoor Education (25:01 - 35:20) Can children truly experience autonomy outdoors? Ensuring Inclusivity in Forest Schools (35:21 - 45:10) Why inclusivity goes beyond just being outdoors. The Future of Forest Schools and Research (45:11 - 55:40) Referenced Works: Practitioner perspectives on nature-based learning for autistic children Samantha Friedman ORCID Icon, Scott A. Morrison ORCID Icon & Allison Shibata Published online: 19 Sep 2024 (https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00958964.2024.2401785) Michael James, “Forest School Handbook” (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Forest-School-Autism-Practical-Guide/dp/1785922912) Sinead O'Brien, Autism and Nature Research (Link to relevant studies)

    Ep 190: The Art of Saying No at Forest School

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 13, 2024 44:46


    Are we doing our children a disservice by always saying "yes"? In this thought-provoking episode of The Forest School Podcast, hosts Lewis and Wem dive deep into the complexities of creating a balanced learning environment in outdoor education. They explore the concept of a "yes environment" and its potential pitfalls, drawing inspiration from Suzanne Axelson's work. But what does this mean for your forest school practice? How can you strike the right balance between freedom and structure? The hosts discuss the importance of modeling appropriate responses to frustration and disappointment. Are you equipping your learners with the tools to handle life's inevitable "no's"? Lewis and Wem also touch on the fascinating differences in how boys and girls are taught to express disagreement. How might this impact your approach to teaching emotional regulation in the outdoors? This episode offers valuable insights for both new and experienced forest school practitioners. How will you apply these ideas to create a more nuanced and effective learning environment? Remember to visit theforestschoolpodcast.com for more resources and to join the conversation! Chapter Titles & Timing: 0:00 - Introduction: The 'Yes' Environment Dilemma 5:03 - Modeling 'No': A Delicate Balance 12:28 - The Squirrel Interruption: Nature's Reminder 18:41 - Emotional Responses in Different Settings 27:26 - Designing Spaces for Authenticity 34:25 - When Adults Lose Control: Modeling Recovery 38:20 - Conclusion: Risk-Assessing Your 'Yeses' For more in-depth discussions on forest school practices, head over to theforestschoolpodcast.com. Don't forget to subscribe and leave a review if you found this episode valuable! Looking to dive deeper into these concepts? Visit theforestschoolpodcast.com for exclusive content and resources to enhance your forest school practice.

    Ep 189: Interview with Emma Brockes

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2024 37:31


    Support the podcast at www.patreon.om/theforestschoolpodcast Can Forest Schools deliver on their promises in urban environments? Guest Info: https://emmabrockes.com/ Join hosts Lewis Ames and Wem Southerden as they dive into a thought-provoking conversation with journalist Emma Brockes about her recent Guardian article on Forest Schools. Explore the challenges of implementing authentic outdoor education in city settings, the marketing pressures schools face, and the importance of communicating Forest School's unique pedagogy. This episode offers valuable insights for educators, parents, and anyone interested in nature-based learning. Visit theforestschoolpodcast.com for more resources on outdoor education. Chapter Titles & Timing: 00:00 - Introduction and Emma's Forest School experience 05:30 - The allure of Forest Schools for urban parents 12:15 - Challenges of implementing Forest School in cities 18:45 - Marketing vs. reality: Are schools overpromising? 25:20 - Communicating Forest School's deeper pedagogy 31:40 - The future of Forest Schools and outdoor education For more episodes and exclusive content, head to theforestschoolpodcast.com. 38:10 - Closing thoughts and practical applications Don't forget to share your Forest School experiences at theforestschoolpodcast.com!

    Ep 188: An Owl Based Info-Dump

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2024 30:18


    Support the podcast, get in touch and find more episodes at www.theforestschoolpodcast.com Summary In this episode of The Forest School Podcast, Lewis Ames explores the fascinating world of owls. He shares interesting facts about owl sizes, adaptability, legs, silent flight, vision, hearing, vocalizations, intelligence, family dynamics, hunting behaviors, diets, and conservation challenges. Owls play a crucial role in ecosystems by controlling rodent populations. Conservation efforts, education, and ambassador owls are helping to protect and raise awareness about these incredible birds. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Gratitude 01:41 The Astonishing Diversity of Owls 03:03 The Secrets of Owl Legs and Silent Flight 04:56 The Marvels of Owl Vision and Hearing 06:22 The Fascinating World of Owl Vocalizations 09:08 The Intelligence and Family Dynamics of Owls 11:30 The Intriguing Hunting Behaviors of Owls 15:15 The Challenges Facing Owls in the Modern World 18:10 The Importance of Owl Conservation and Education

    Ep 187: Unleashing Nature's Gym: Movement Reimagined with Andrew and Gill from Wildstrong

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 23, 2024 63:30


    What if the great outdoors was your ultimate fitness playground? Join hosts Lewis Ames and Wem Southerden as they explore the world of outdoor movement and fitness with Andrew and Gill from Wild Strong. Discover how reconnecting with nature can transform our approach to exercise, build community, and challenge traditional fitness norms. This episode is packed with insights for educators, parents, and anyone looking to bring more playful, natural movement into their lives. Chapter Titles & Timing: 00:00 - Introduction to Wild Strong 05:34 - Breaking the Gym Mold: Nature as Your Playground 10:41 - The Power of Play in Adult Fitness 15:23 - Challenging 'Correct' Movement Myths 20:50 - Building Community Through Outdoor Exercise 25:35 - Risk Assessment in Natural Settings 30:12 - Affordances: Seeing Movement Opportunities in Nature 35:48 - Family Dynamics in Outdoor Fitness 40:20 - Practical Tips for Educators and Parents 45:15 - Wrapping Up and Resources Throughout the episode, listeners are encouraged to visit theforestschoolpodcast.com for more resources on outdoor education and natural movement. Whether you're an educator looking to incorporate more outdoor activities or a parent seeking ways to get your family moving in nature, this episode offers valuable insights and practical ideas. Don't forget to check out theforestschoolpodcast.com for show notes, links to resources mentioned, and to leave your feedback on this episode. Your input helps shape future content! For more information on Wild Strong and their approach to outdoor fitness, visit their website at wildstrong.co. Remember to visit theforestschoolpodcast.com to join the conversation and share your own experiences with natural movement and outdoor learning.

    Ep 186: Can false memories actually enhance our connection to nature?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 16, 2024 40:26


    Join hosts Lewis Ames and Wem Southerden as they explore the fascinating world of "muddy memories" in outdoor education. Discover how these not-quite-accurate recollections might play a crucial role in fostering deep connections with nature. Learn practical strategies for educators and parents to navigate and nurture these magical moments. For more thought-provoking discussions on outdoor education, visit theforestschoolpodcast.com. Chapter Titles & Timing: 00:00 - Introduction: The Power of Muddy Memories 05:47 - Childhood Imagination and Nature Connection 13:29 - Lessons from Dementia Care for Educators 19:00 - The Ethics of "Nature Gaslighting" 25:28 - Why Forests Fuel Our Imagination 29:42 - Navigating Conflicts in Outdoor Settings 34:45 - The Magic of "What If" in Nature Education Dive deeper into forest school philosophy and practice at theforestschoolpodcast.com. 41:00 - Practical Tips for Educators and Parents 47:30 - Conclusion: Embracing the Magic of Muddy Memories For more resources and to join the conversation, head to www.theforestschoolpodcast.com. Remember to like, subscribe, and share this episode with fellow outdoor enthusiasts!

    Ep 185: Creating Non-Judgmental Spaces in Forest School

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 10, 2024 40:18


    How can we foster a truly non-judgmental environment in Forest School without compromising on safety and boundaries? Description: Join Lewis and Wem as they dive deep into the complexities of creating and maintaining non-judgmental spaces in Forest School settings. From handling personal biases to addressing challenging behaviors, this episode explores the delicate balance between acceptance and setting necessary boundaries. Discover practical strategies for fostering a community where everyone feels safe to express themselves authentically. Visit theforestschoolpodcast.com for more insights on Forest School practices! Chapter Titles & Timing: 0:00 - Introduction: The Challenge of Non-Judgment 5:18 - Cultural Kombucha: Building a Non-Judgmental Community 11:14 - Balancing Praise and Judgment 20:49 - The Impact of Judgment in Safe Spaces 27:20 - Modeling Self-Compassion and Mistake Ownership 34:30 - Non-Judgment vs. Permissiveness: Finding the Balance For more episodes on creating inclusive Forest School environments, head to theforestschoolpodcast.com. 39:02 - Closing Thoughts and Listener Engagement Don't forget to check out theforestschoolpodcast.com for additional resources and to join our community of Forest School enthusiasts!

    Ep 184: How do you make adults be friends?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2024 38:07


    Join Lewis and Wem as they explore the challenges and strategies of facilitating adult relationships in forest school settings. From icebreaker questions to creating non-judgmental spaces, this episode dives into the complexities of fostering community among grown-ups in nature-based education. Chapter Titles and Timing: Potato-Based Introductions (00:01 - 05:02) The Art of Icebreaker Questions (05:02 - 15:22) Facilitating Adult Interactions with Children Present (15:22 - 24:37) Setting Expectations and Creating Adult-Friendly Spaces (24:37 - 29:52) The Unique Container of Forest School for Adult Play (29:52 - 35:13) Key Takeaways: The importance of crafting questions that allow for varying levels of engagement Balancing adult experiences with childcare responsibilities in family sessions Creating adult-friendly spaces within child-centered environments The challenges of overcoming societal expectations for parents to be "martyrs" Forest school as a unique environment for adults to play and connect Links: Website: www.theforestschoolpodcast.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/theforestschoolpodcast

    Ep 183: The positive and pitfalls of being lifelong learners as leaders with Nicki Farell from Raising Wildlings PART 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 30, 2024 38:10


    Support the podcast and get bonus content today at www.patreon.com/theforestschoolpodcast Find part 2 at https://www.wildlingsforestschool.com/raisingwildlingsAnd give them a follow on their socials:- https://www.facebook.com/share/317yVGUXFPSJPwTb/- https://www.instagram.com/wildlings_forestschool?igsh=MTlxeDN6ZnVzdXFudw== In this episode, The Forest School Podcast collaborates with Nicky Farrell from Wildlings in Australia. They discuss the importance of lifelong learning in the context of forest school education. They explore how being passionate about learning and nature can drive educators to continuously seek new knowledge and experiences. They also discuss the challenges of being a lifelong learner, such as the pressure to conform to traditional educational systems. The conversation highlights the importance of modeling learning for children and creating a supportive community of learners. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Collaboration with Raising Wildlings Podcast 02:56 Passion for Learning and Nature in Forest School 06:12 Challenges of Being a Lifelong Learner 09:13 Modeling Learning for Children in Forest School 12:00 Building a Supportive Community of Learners in Forest School 25:37 Contemplating the Moral Implications of Overdramatizing Slugs 29:35 The Shift from Rote Memory to Practical Application of Knowledge 37:37 Conclusion and Invitation to Listen to the Second Half on Raising Wildlings Podcast

    Ep 182: Is Encouragement Ableist?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 27, 2024 44:03


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    Ep 181: I wasn't Finished With That Yet

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2024 41:19


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    Ep 179: Queer Planet with Lizzie Wild

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 14, 2024 68:33


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    Ep 178: International Forest School Reasearch Symposium 2024

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 3, 2024 133:17


    Ep 177: Interview with Dr Mark Leather

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2024 53:26


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    Ep 176: Unconventional Essentials #1: Dressing Up Clothes

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2024 65:33


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    Ep 175: Why do teenagers disconnect from nature and what can we do to help?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 2, 2024 61:30


    Supporting the podcast at www.patreon.com/theforest school podcast Get in touch at www.theforestschoolpodcast.com Train with us at www.children-of-the-forest.com Summary The conversation explores the decline in nature connection among teenagers and the challenges of engaging adolescents with nature. It delves into the impact of autonomy, rebellion, and social acceptance on nature connection, as well as the need for outdoor spaces for teenagers to congregate without judgment. The discussion also highlights the importance of intrinsic motivation and play in fostering nature connection in adolescents. The conversation explores the impact of social expectations and judgment on teenagers' nature connection, the role of technology in forging new connections with nature, and the changing definition of nature connection as individuals transition from childhood to adolescence. It also delves into the need to remove moral judgments from assessing nature connection and the importance of research in understanding and providing opportunities for nature connection. Takeaways Teenagers experience a decline in nature connection, with a significant dip between the ages of 13 and 18, followed by a gradual climb back up to early childhood levels by the age of 30. The need for autonomy, rebellion, and social acceptance influences teenagers' engagement with nature, and providing outdoor spaces for teenagers to congregate without judgment is crucial for fostering nature connection. Intrinsic motivation and play play a significant role in nurturing nature connection in adolescents, and the focus should be on facilitating spaces for teenagers to engage with nature on their own terms. Social expectations and judgment can impact teenagers' nature connection, leading to a shift in the definition and experience of nature connection during adolescence. Technology can be used to forge new connections with nature, and its role in facilitating global nature connection should be recognized and studied. Removing moral judgments from the assessment of nature connection is essential, and research is needed to understand and provide opportunities for nature connection, especially for teenagers. The changing definition of nature connection as individuals transition from childhood to adolescence highlights the need for a broader understanding and approach to nature connection at different life stages. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Sunday Sessions with Lewis and Wem 03:17 The Decline in Nature Connection Among Teenagers 07:31 Challenges of Engaging Adolescents with Nature 15:14 The Impact of Autonomy and Social Acceptance on Nature Engagement 24:12 The Impact of Social Expectations on Teenagers' Nature Connection 37:20 Technology and Nature Connection: Forging New Connections 45:35 The Changing Definition of Nature Connection in Adolescence

    Ep 174: The Biophilia Effect - Book Review

    Play Episode Listen Later May 11, 2024 57:57


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    ep 173: Renaturing School Playgrounds: The Challenges and Opportunities Engaging Children with Nature in Urban Areas with Nina Lovelace

    Play Episode Listen Later May 3, 2024 61:48


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    Ep 172: Where do Retired Forest School Leaders Go? With Sara Knight and Jon Cree

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 26, 2024 69:24


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    Ep 171: Matrescence and Forest School with Lucy Jones

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 16, 2024 68:37


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    Measuring a Springboard's Success

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 14, 2024 66:44


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    Promoting Play in Schools: A Conversation with Michael Follett of Opal Outdoor Play and Learning

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 25, 2024 57:35


    Reggio and Forest School with Jessie Zhao

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 19, 2024 50:54


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    Embracing the Pause: A Conversation on Improvisation, Leadership and Discovering Your Flow with Robert Poynton

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 11, 2024 68:33


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    Corvid Corrections & The Pulse of Play

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2024 31:06


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    Exploring Spirituality, Death, and Nature with Rachel Summers

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 23, 2024 69:01


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    Confronting Childism: A Conversation with Gentle Parenting Author Sarah Ockwell-Smith

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2024 62:50


    Modeling the value of land-based and ancestoral knowledge in a modern education setting, with Peter Kindfield.

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 9, 2024 56:54


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