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Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:09 Hi there, how are you? Bob Miller 00:00:10 Excellent! Pedaling as fast as humanly possible, but doing okay. Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:14 Good, good. Well, I’m looking forward to our conversation today. This should be amazing. Bob Miller 00:00:20 Yeah, it should be a lot of fun. Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:22 Yeah, anything that’s off-limits for you in, our conversation? Bob Miller 00:00:28 No. Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:29 Okay, anything you want me to make sure we cover for you? Bob Miller 00:00:33 Well, I mean, is it okay if we put a little plug-in for our software? Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:35 Absolutely. Bob Miller 00:00:36 Yeah. Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:37 Absolutely. Bob Miller 00:00:36 Yeah. Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:37 Absolutely. Bob Miller 00:00:38 Hey, can we… can we do a screen share? Yes, we can. Yeah, because I want to show you some maps, and… Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:43 Okay. Things like that, yeah, so… Perfect. So just let me know when you want to do screen share. Bob Miller 00:00:48 Okay. Dr. Deb Muth 00:00:49 And yeah, feel free to plug your software wherever you want to. Bob Miller 00:00:53 Okay, well, good. Let me pull up a, a slide for that, and give me one second, I just want to shut the door to my office to get the noise down. Dr. Deb Muth 00:01:01 No worries. Bob Miller 00:01:16 And, how should I refer to you? Dr. Debb? Dr. Muth, what do you like? Dr. Deb Muth 00:01:18 Dr. Deb is great, or Deb, either way, I’m pretty informal, so… Bob Miller 00:01:22 Yeah, and… Bob is fine for me. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. Why people feel like they need this, son. Special name, it’s like, seriously. Dr. Deb Muth 00:01:33 Right? I agree. Bob Miller 00:01:35 When I work with my clients, it’s like, Dr. Millison, just, just bop, just, just bop. Dr. Deb Muth 00:01:41 Yep, that’s how I am, too. Just call me Deb, it’s good. Dr. Deb Muth 00:01:44 They feel a little awkward with that, you know? They’re not used to that, but… Bob Miller 00:01:48 Alright. And you’re a naturopath, medical doctor. Dr. Deb Muth 00:01:52 A nastropathic doctor and a nurse practitioner. Oh, nice. Yeah, so I got the best of both worlds, right? Bob Miller 00:01:58 Yeah, damn. Okay. Alright, so here we go… There we go. Alright, so I got that ready, and then I will do a, I will do a screen share. I think you’re gonna really, appreciate what we’ve come up with. We’ve come up with the concept of, Cellular CPR. Dr. Deb Muth 00:02:23 Oh, nice! Bob Miller 00:02:24 And that is, construct the cell membrane, Protect the cell membrane. And restore it if it’s damaged. Dr. Deb Muth 00:02:32 Love that. Bob Miller 00:02:34 I love that. Yeah, so that’s what we’re focusing on, and then how, You know, we want to get to the point that, you know, most people think of genetics, they think of, like, 23andMe or Ancestry. Dr. Deb Muth 00:02:44 Yeah. Bob Miller 00:02:45 And then you have the professional geneticists who are looking at, you know, odd things that could create a disease. We’re looking at functional genomics. Dr. Deb Muth 00:02:54 Which is so much better. Bob Miller 00:02:56 Yeah. Are you familiar with what we do here, or… Dr. Deb Muth 00:02:58 A little bit, a little bit. So, it’ll be new to me, too, so I’m excited. Bob Miller 00:03:03 And how much time do we have? Dr. Deb Muth 00:03:04 We have an hour, give or take a little bit on either side. Do you have a hard stop anywhere? Bob Miller 00:03:10 No, no, I put a, I moved my clients around, and I don’t have anybody till, 3.30, so we’re good. Okay. Dr. Deb Muth 00:03:16 Perfect. Alright. Bob Miller 00:03:18 It’s like we’re getting started early as well, so… Dr. Deb Muth 00:03:19 Yeah, we’re getting started a little bit early, so that’s good. Bob Miller 00:03:22 Yeah, I just got my office cleaned up, so… Dr. Deb Muth 00:03:23 Okay, good. All right, are you all set to get started? Bob Miller 00:03:28 I’m good to go, my friend. Dr. Deb Muth 00:03:29 I’m gonna just record a little intro and a little bit of a, hook for people, and then we’ll get started. I’ll ask you to kind of tell us a little bit about yourself, and then we’ll just take this conversation wherever it’s supposed to go. Bob Miller 00:03:39 Okay, you got it. Dr. Deb Muth 00:03:40 Alright, sounds good. So what if the reason you’re not healing isn’t your diet, your supplements, or your labs, but it’s actually your genes? Dr. Bob Miller is uncovering how genetic variants, when combined with modern toxins, explain why some of us stay sick no matter what we try. Today, we’re talking genetic pathways, detox blocks, and the new science every wellness warrior needs to know. Welcome back to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, the show where we uncover the root causes of chronic illness, exploring cutting-edge regenerative medicine, and empower you to heal from the inside out. I’m Dr. Deb, your medical detective, and today, our guest, Dr. Bob Miller, is a true pioneer in functional genomics. He’s a board-certified traditional naturopath and the founder of Neutrogenetic Research Institute. And he’s the leading groundbreaking research on how genetic variants influence chronic illness, inflammation, and detoxification. His work has been recognized on international stages, uncovering links between genetic expression and conditions like Lyme disease, mast cell activation, or MCAS, and mitochondrial dysfunction. I’m so excited to talk to Dr. Bob today. He is gonna reveal some things that even I don’t know about, so I’m excited to learn alongside of you guys. So… Dr. Bob, let’s get started. Tell us a little bit about yourself, and kind of how you got on this journey. Bob Miller 00:05:04 Well, that’s, that’s interesting. I was sort of like a mid-career coming to the natural health field, because in my early 30s, I found myself with a severe case of ulcerative colitis. Bob Miller 00:05:15 And I was in the hospital for 21 days. probably within hours of death, pleading to death. And they told me I’ve got one option, and that is cut out the colon and wear a bag. Didn’t sound like a lot of fun. Dr. Deb Muth 00:05:27 Not an option I would want. Bob Miller 00:05:29 So, you know, the medical folks wasn’t real happy with me, but I said, yeah, I’d like to explore some alternative things.Never thinking that I’d get into this field, and then I just, you know, worked with some herbalists and things that I found absolutely fascinating. So, that’s how I got into this around 30 years ago. And, haven’t looked back since, and just having a… having a blast as we now move into how our genetics impacts things. So, that’s what we’re gonna… that’s what we’re gonna talk about today. Dr. Deb Muth 00:05:58 I’m excited to talk about this genetic thing. When you started over 30 years ago, what kind of patience and problems first inspired you to dig deeper into that root cause healing and kind of get into the genetic piece of it? Bob Miller 00:06:10 Sure. Well, you know, as a… now, I’m in a part of the country called Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, where there’s a lot of Amish and Mennonite, and they gravitate towards these things.So, this is their first thing to do, and that doesn’t work, then they’ll go other routes. So, you know, back then, we just saw typical, you know, a little tired, constipation. You know, a little bit of fatigue, arthritis, those kind of things. But things have changed dramatically over the years, as people are now getting more chronically sick. You know, it’s worse than it’s ever been. And what we’re finding is the, the culprits Primarily is mold exposure and Lyme disease. When people get those two together, they’re just… it’s an inflammatory cascade that nobody can seem to unravel. So that’s where we spend a lot of our time. And we’re also spending a lot of time looking at mental health, like ADD, ADHD. And, we give… this year I’ll be speaking at three autism conferences. And we can dig into that a little bit as to why we think we’re seeing such a dramatic increase. And aside from autism, that used to be 1 out of 1,000, now it’s 1 out of 33, or 23. You know, we’re also seeing dramatic increases in ADD, ADHD. People are stressed out. And today, I think we’ll have the time to actually go through and show how environmental factors combine with genetics to cause that to happen. So we’ll… we should have a fun visit here today. And today, I think we’ll have the time to actually go through and show how environmental factors combine with genetics to cause that to happen. So we’ll… we should have a fun visit here today. Dr. Deb Muth 00:07:37 This should be a fun visit. We can cover lots of topics. I am so excited. So, you founded Nutri Genetic Research Institute in 2015. What did you hope to accomplish, and what kind of surprised you in your findings so far about that? Bob Miller 00:07:51 Well, you know, let’s back up at what, you know, genetics is used for. Everybody’s familiar with 23andMe and Ancestry that, you know, tells you where your ancestors came from. Then you have your professional geneticists. I mean, these are people with a degree in genetics. And they’ll look for, you know, very odd sort of things that are prone to relate to a disease. So there are disease-related genetics. Well, in functional, we don’t look at either of those. We look at For example, how you’re breaking down your fats and utilizing them. How you’re recycling your glutathione. How you might be handling your iron. And none of those are disease-causing on their own.And none of those are disease-causing on their own. But when they pile up on you, and then combine that with environmental factors, that’s when things start to go south on us. So, that’s what we’re doing, we’re looking at patterns. And our first foray into this was, we did studies on Lyme disease. And our first foray into this was, we did studies on Lyme disease. So, we looked at, like, I think 50 people with Lyme disease. We looked at their genome. So, we looked at, like, I think 50 people with Lyme disease. We looked at their genome. And we found patterns that were more evident in those with Lyme. Now, this doesn’t… these genetics don’t mean you get Lyme, it just means if you get Lyme, you react worse to it. And we found patterns that were more evident in those with Lyme. Now, this doesn’t… these genetics don’t mean you get Lyme, it just means if you get Lyme, you react worse to it. So, as you know, some people get Lyme, they go on a round of antibiotics, and they’re done. So, as you know, some people get Lyme, they go on a round of antibiotics, and they’re done. Others have a little more struggle, and then others are struggling terribly for years. So there’s an old adage of genetics loads the gun, environment pulls the trigger. Dr. Deb Muth 00:09:14 Yeah, that is so true, and I think when we’re talking about Lyme and mold and things like that, we forget sometimes that our genetics can predispose us to be more sensitive to those things, and if we have genetic pathways where we don’t clear things properly, it’s harder for us to get them out of the body. And then you add on that whole rain barrel effect that we’ve always used as a functional medicine term, right? If the barrel’s half full, you’re okay. If it’s full, and now it’s spilling over, it’s a bigger problem. Have you guys found, too, that some of these environmental things actually are changing the genetics of people, or how they’re processing their own genetics? Bob Miller 00:09:53 Well, let’s go back to, Genetics 101. But we’ll go back a little bit further. So, what an interesting mechanism, what a miracle the body is. Bob Miller 00:10:03 Fats, carbohydrates, proteins, drink water, breathe air, expose the sunlight, and somehow everything gets made. I mean, when you just step back and think about that, it’s like, It’s pretty darn amazing. Dr. Deb Muth 00:10:15 I always tell women, you know, the fact that we get pregnant and we have healthy pregnancies and births is a miracle, because if we had to try to control that, that wouldn’t work so well. Bob Miller 00:10:25 Right. Well, that’s another miracle. These microscopic sperm and egg, human being, 9 months later, it’s like. But even inside of us. We are making our hair, our skin, our nails, our blood vessels, our ATP, our energy, it’s all being created. Well, that gets created by enzymes. So, enzymes take one substance, combine it with something else, and make something new. Then another enzyme comes along and does the same thing. Your DNA is the instructions on how to make the enzymes. So, when we are conceived. If it’s a, if it’s a female, of course, it’s the XX, the two chromosomes. You know, we’ve… everybody’s seen those… the genetics that… Listed pair. So, if it’s a female, the father donated the X enzyme. And the mother has no choice but to give the eggs, so that’s female. If the father donates the Y, you have a male that’s in chromosome number 1. Then 2 through 23 is the rest of the instructions on how to make enzymes. So, what can happen? We can get what are called SNPs, single nucleotide polymorphisms. And SNPs just mean that the instructions to make the enzyme’s not quite as good. So, if one parent gives a SNP on the making of an enzyme, The enzyme’s fine. It works. But, general rule of thumb, It may only work at 70-80% of efficiency. Now, a good analogy is think of an 8-cylinder and a 6-cylinder car. If parents give you good information, that’s like having an 8-cylinder car. If one parent gives you that snip, it’s like having a 6-cylinder car. Now, is a 6-cylinder car a fine car? Sure. It’ll get you from point A to point B, but it’s just going to have the power of an 8-cylinder. Then if both parents give you a SNP on the same enzyme, it may be 30-40%, and that’s like having a 4-cylinder car. Sits in the driveway, looks the same, puts gas in it, everything. But if you’ve got a 4-cylinder car. Probably not a good idea to go cross-country pulling a trailer behind you up and down mountains. Dr. Deb Muth 00:12:29 This is true. Bob Miller 00:12:32 So… We can get an 8-cylinder, 6-cylinder, or 4-cylinder enzyme. Now, if it’s not under a lot of stress, if that 4-cylinder car is just taking you to the bank and the grocery store. It’s just as good as an 8-cylinder car. But if you gotta pull that trailer, and there’s a lot of stress on it, being mountains, it’s gonna struggle. Now, there’s one other little caveat to this, and that is some genetic mutations are gain-of-function. They actually work faster. Now, we have enzymes that do all kinds of things. We have enzymes that make and recycle our antioxidants, but we also have enzymes that make inflammation. No, that’s a good thing, because if we get a virus or bacteria, if you didn’t make inflammation to kill it, well, we’d all die of infection. So, you know, we tend to think of free radicals as bad, antioxidants as good. They both play an important role. But interestingly, some of the major enzymes that make inflammation, they can be overactive. They can be turbocharged. And when they’re stimulated by environmental toxins, they overreact. Bob Miller 00:13:40 And therein lies the problem. When they overreact, we have a problem. Bob Miller 00:13:46 So, if we have genes that overreact when stimulated. And then the enzymes that take care of inflammation are underactive. Then you’re gonna be more inflamed. You know, the majority of people that, you know, come for functional medicine Or naturopathic help, or… Inflammation that they can’t seem to get under control. Dr. Deb Muth 00:14:06 Right. Bob Miller 00:14:07 And we will be, you know, during this hour, we’re going to look at some of the pathways that make that happen. So, what we can do then, we can’t change our genetics. When you’re conceived, that’s the hand you’re dealt. When your life would be over, if someone would take some tissue and measure, it’d be exactly the same as conception. Does it change. Bob Miller 00:14:28 The enzyme’s ability to do its job may be compromised. Because remember I said there’s a, the enzyme takes a cofactor. So an enzyme takes substance A, cofactor, make substance B. Well, if that cofactor’s not there, the enzyme’s not going to work either. So, you could have an 8-cylinder car, and if there’s no gas in it, it’s not going anywhere. So… It’s the strength of the enzyme, it’s the cofactor to do the A to B conversion. And that’s what we’re going to get into. So, many people say, well, where did these SNPs come from? Nobody knows for sure. Sometimes they’re what’s just called de novo, when the sperm and egg go together, the instructions get mixed up a little bit. We do believe a lot of it came from a long time ago, when we were almost wiped out by sexually transmitted diseases. And those STDs were altering the genes when the conception, in other words, when the sperm went into the egg, the STDs were interfering. And causing the problem, so… I often joke, if you want to blame somebody. Blame your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents for, being a bit promiscuous, so… Dr. Deb Muth 00:15:31 Yeah, for being… having a little too much fun, right? Bob Miller 00:15:35 So, we don’t know for sure, but, you know, there are some that, But most of the SNPs that we get inherit from our parents. So, if you look at a child. And you look at the SNPs. 99.9% of the time, it came from one of the parents. Dr. Deb Muth 00:15:50 In identical twins, do they have the exact same identical makeup? Bob Miller 00:15:54 Yep, Dr. Deb Muth 00:15:56 But not in fraternal twins, correct? Bob Miller 00:15:59 No, no, those could be different, Jeff. Dr. Deb Muth 00:16:00 It could be different because they have different sacs, they’re not sharing that same genetic makeup. Bob Miller 00:16:04 Yeah, so keep in mind, both your mother and your father have, you know, the two And so you get one from one parent, one from another. Dr. Deb Muth 00:16:13 So… Bob Miller 00:16:14 Interesting situation. I had, 3, 3 boys. And, we were looking at an enzyme related to breaking down oxalates. Now, the mother and father each had one SNP, and that’s called heterozygous. Three boys, and they all come together, they’re Amish boys, they’re a lot of fun. And I looked at their genomes, and the one boy didn’t have any SNPs at all. And one had won. And the other one had two. Dr. Deb Muth 00:16:41 Interesting. Bob Miller 00:16:42 So, we don’t quite know how these things get handed off, but with the parents each having one, you could have a child with none, one, or two. So, the one, his ability to break down oxalates, which is fine. The other one was slightly impaired, and the other one was dramatically impaired. So, you can have 3 children, and it all depends what the parents have. Now, if a parent has a homozygous, or 2 copies. And the other parent has nothing. Every child will have one. Okay. If both parents are homozygous, that they both have two, Every child will have two. Dr. Deb Muth 00:17:19 too. Bob Miller 00:17:20 Yes, so that’s the way it works, but, you know, but it’s somewhat rare that both parents are homozygous on an enzyme, but it can happen. Dr. Deb Muth 00:17:27 Do we think that infections today, like Lyme disease or mold exposure, things like that, if the parent, the woman, primarily, I’m thinking, is pregnant, and she actively has these infections. Can those infections affect the genetics, kind of like a past sexual transmission did where we thought back in the day? Bob Miller 00:17:47 Yeah, I… I mean, I’m not that much of a geneticist to answer that for sure, but my thought would be no, that at conception, the pattern’s made. Dr. Deb Muth 00:17:55 Okay. And then that’s… that’s the hand you’re dealt. Bob Miller 00:17:58 Yeah. So, I tell people we have good news and bad news. The good news is we can compensate for the weakness. The bad news is we can compensate for the weakness. Dr. Deb Muth 00:18:09 That is so very true. Bob Miller 00:18:11 Yeah, we can’t, because I often get asked, so we’ll do some things now, and we’ll check my genes again, and they’ll be better. It’s like, nope. Dr. Deb Muth 00:18:18 Oh, – – Bob Miller 00:18:19 You gotta play the hands you’re dealt, so… Dr. Deb Muth 00:18:21 That’s right. Bob Miller 00:18:22 You can test your genetics… if you’re looking at the same enzyme, you can test it every year. It’s not gonna change. It’s like the blueprint. Dr. Deb Muth 00:18:30 It’s good and bad, right? It’s the one test you only have to do once in your lifetime. Bob Miller 00:18:34 No, unless, you know, like, our. Dr. Deb Muth 00:18:36 All the time. Bob Miller 00:18:37 Yeah, now our test looks at, called the Functional Genomic Analysis Test of your genomic Resource. We look at 220,000 steps. Dr. Deb Muth 00:18:46 Wow, that’s a lot. Bob Miller 00:18:47 That’s not all of them. Dr. Deb Muth 00:18:49 Right. Bob Miller 00:18:50 So, maybe in the next year, we’re gonna come out with our third version of the chip. And then, if someone wants to get those new things that weren’t on it, they’d have to repeat. But whatever we measured is gonna stay the same. Dr. Deb Muth 00:19:03 That’s a lot of SNPs to look at. Bob Miller 00:19:05 Keeps us busy. Dr. Deb Muth 00:19:06 But there’s still, but there’s still SNPs that we. Bob Miller 00:19:09 That we’d like to have that we don’t have, so… Bob Miller 00:19:11 We started out with version 1 on our genetic test, then we worked with version 2, and we’re already compiling a list of what version 3 would look like. So if somebody has our version 2, And we’re saying, you know what, it’d be nice if we could see these, well, then you’d repeat, but it won’t change what you already know, so… Dr. Deb Muth 00:19:29 Got it, got it. So, when you started out, and you started looking at the research of Lyme disease and chronic infections, which detox pathways are most important for people who struggle with those conditions? Bob Miller 00:19:43 Okay. You know what might make sense as we do a screen share, and I’ll actually show you the pathway. Does that make sense? Bob Miller 00:19:48 Alright, so… let’s see if I… let me just press the share… Dr. Deb Muth 00:19:52 Yep, you should just be able to press share. Bob Miller 00:19:54 And… number 2. Okay. Are we seeing the screen there? Bob Miller 00:20:01 Okay. Dr. Deb Muth 00:20:02 So, this is a map that we made. Bob Miller 00:20:05 And by the way, this is not… All-inclusive of all the things we look at, but we believe this is a core issue. So, where we’re going to start here, there’s something called the microglia. And the microglia are glial cells. They’re in the brain and the central nervous system. And they’re very interesting little creatures, because most of the time, and this is just a drawing of what they sort of look like. Most of the time, they’re in what’s called the M2 anti-inflammatory mood. What that means, these little guys pick up dirt, debris, Recycle them. Turns on an enzyme called interleukin-10 that’s anti-inflammatory. And just kind of does general housekeeping. And just kind of does general housekeeping. However, when a trigger comes along. However, when a trigger comes along. They… it’s the same glial cell, but it moves over to a very pro-inflammatory enzyme. A pro-inflammatory glial cell. And it triggers these 3 enzymes, Actually, these four. That are pro-inflammatory. Tumor necrosis vector alpha, Interleukin-6. NF Kappa B, Inos. Now, these create inflammation. So you might think, well, why is that good? Well, if you have some foreign invader, virus, bacteria coming in, parasite. If you didn’t have these guys coming to the rescue, you would just die of infection. So, these guys are your friend unless they’re your worst enemy. Because TNFA, and we’ll show you when we actually do a demo account, TNFA can be overactive. So, in other words, it over-responds. Interleukin-6 can be overactive. And if Kappa-B can be overactive. The INOS, and I’ll explain each of these as we go through a demo, can be overactive. Now, what that means is, you’re very good at killing virus and bacteria. But this is where autoimmune disease comes in, and just inflammatory conditions. Now, this is just speculation, but we think what happened is, as you know. Thousands of years ago, we didn’t have refrigeration, we didn’t have sewer, we didn’t have pure water, and we didn’t have antibiotics. So, if you made it to 40, you were an old-timer, because everybody was dying of infection. So, what we believe happened is, by what’s called natural selection, Having these overactive. A thousand years ago was to your advantage. Dr. Deb Muth 00:22:31 Hmm. Bob Miller 00:22:32 But now… We have pure water, we have refrigeration, we have sewers, we have antibiotics. But now we have environmental factors that are stimulating them. Now it’s to our disadvantage. And we’ll talk about that a little bit as it relates to the hemochromatosis genes and maybe the G6PD. Dr. Deb Muth 00:22:48 Yep. Bob Miller 00:22:49 Now, why are we becoming so inflamed? Let’s look at the triggers. Now, one of my, favorite expressions is. I was born all the way back in 1954. Dr. Deb Muth 00:23:01 And it was a different world back then. Bob Miller 00:23:05 These are some of the triggers. And we’ll get into these, but right now, high fructose corn syrup, And the high-fat diet. High fructose corn syrup only came about in 1968. So now we’re being exposed to high fructose corn syrup. Then… we didn’t have these, these viruses like COVID. Dr. Deb Muth 00:23:26 Yeah. Bob Miller 00:23:27 Now, there’s now pretty strong evidence that COVID Was actually, you know, made as a gain of function. It’s debated, and I’m not taking an opinion on it, but there’s some people who believe Lyme disease was also a part of experimentation. Dr. Deb Muth 00:23:40 Go. Bob Miller 00:23:41 Then we have molds, and it appears as though mold is getting stronger. you know, 20 years ago, when I was seeing folks, mold wasn’t on the radar. I would say 7 out of the 10 folks we speak to today have mold problems. Yeah, 20 years ago, we talked more about mold allergy being an issue versus mold toxicity being an issue. Right. So… I know some folks are, you know, speculating what’s happening, but one of the theories out there is that EMF is strengthening mold. I don’t know if you ever heard that theory, and I don’t… Dr. Deb Muth 00:24:13 I have. Bob Miller 00:24:14 I’m not claiming it’s true, but it’s an interesting theory. Then even, you know, your black mold from water-damaged buildings. Then our air pollution is getting worse. We’re getting more toxic metals. Dr. Deb Muth 00:24:26 You know, if we have a… Bob Miller 00:24:27 You know, we’re gonna look back someday and say, what were we thinking, smearing aluminum into our armpits? The, what were we doing putting mercury in our teeth? Then, you know, glyphosate. When I was a kid, there was no glyphosate. So, all of these herbicides and pesticides. Polychlorinated biphenols, And then EMF. So, we love our cell phones, you know, and I think unless you, or in the middle of the desert, or down in a cave, you’re being exposed to EMF somewhere. So, you know, we have our cell phones with us, we have, We have Wi-Fi, the towers are everywhere. And we don’t know long-term, but we may find that this can… this creates some inflammation. And I don’t know if you get any folks, but do you have any folks that have… are they EMF sensitive? Dr. Deb Muth 00:25:16 Oh yeah, we have a whole bunch of them. Bob Miller 00:25:18 Yeah, and then if you have any TBIs, So, plenty of things here. that will stimulate into the microglia, M1. Now, you could say, well. We’re all pretty much exposed to the same thing. Why do some people get hit harder than others? So here’s where we’re gonna start. There’s an enzyme called Nrf2 and RF2. And Nrf2 is the enzyme that senses when there’s inflammation. And turns on hundreds of anti-inflammatory enzymes. We’ll show when we do the demo, you can have genetic weakness on NERF2. And NERF2 inhibits and slows down microglia M1. supports M2. Now, if it’s not complicated enough, there’s an enzyme called KEEP1. And KEEP1 inhibits NRF2. And you can actually have gain of function on keep 1, that makes Keap 1 stronger. So… A lot of the people who land on my doorstep So… A lot of the people who land on my doorstep Both parents gave a mutation on KEEP1, making it overactive. Both parents gave a mutation on KEEP1, making it overactive. Dr. Deb Muth 00:26:31 Hmm. Dr. Deb Muth 00:26:31 Hmm. Bob Miller 00:26:32 Suppressing Nrf2, nerve 2 might be weak. So, nobody’s putting the brakes on, M1. And by the same token, Nerve 2 supports M2. Then there’s a process called mTOR and autophagy. mTOR stands for mammalian tard of rapamycin, the growth of new cells. And then autophagy, taking our dead cells and recycling them. We need a balance between the two of them. If we didn’t have mTOR, the sperm and the egg would never become the baby, the baby would never become the adult, we wouldn’t make new cells. But our cells are constantly, you know, the old cells dying off. Autophagy is where we take that debris from the cell and recycle it, just like a farmer Plows the crop under at the end of the year. The dead plant then becomes the fuel for the spring, your dead cell becomes the fuel for the spring, and that’s autophagy. So we’re gonna look back someday and say, what were we thinking? We give our animals growth hormones so they get fatter faster. Oh my. So, we consume those animals, and inventory runs faster. Now, for anybody who’s, You know, maybe above 40, 45 years old. Think back when you were 12, and what did girls look like? They were primarily flat-chested little girls. Now they look like 16-year-olds. Because environmentally, we’re jacking up mTOR. So, mTOR stimulates microglia M1, suppresses microglia M2. Probably 80% of the folks we visit with. This is the part of the problem. NRF2 is weak. mTOR is strong. Environmental factors come along. And this guy gets carried away. He doesn’t do that burst and move back. Stays here. We’re calling that How environmental factors create a locked-in, pro-inflammatory. and neurotoxic phenotype. In other words, once it starts, it just keeps… Feeding upon itself. Alright, so what happens now when microglia is overactive. it triggers these 3 enzymes, TNFA, N of kappa B, And interleukin-6. Each one of these can have genetics that make them run stronger. Then it stimulates an enzyme called NLRP3, Which makes what are called inflammasomes. Now, guess what inflammasomes can be? Your best friend or your worst enemy? Because they will, if you’ve got, again, a virus or bacteria, or possibly even some bad cells in the body. They will zap them. Well, that’s good. Unless it’s overactive. Unless it’s overactive. And then what it does, through interleukin-1 beta, makes excess glutamate. And then what it does, through interleukin-1 beta, makes excess glutamate. Anxiety, gut inflammation, OCD, ADD, autism. And, you know, glutamate, we’ll talk about that a little bit, but glutamate makes you intelligent, highly motivated go-getter. but can also be excitatory. And then, look what it does. Let’s see, do I have the drawing tool here? Yes, I do. Okay. So, it comes down through here, Makes the glutamate. Comes back up through here. through the ADORA 2A enzyme, Then we’ve got a feedback loop that feeds upon itself. Then, through interleukin-18, we make histamine. and mast cells. And then through histamine receptor site number 1, we come back and spin it. And now you’ve just got this spinning feedback loop. So, the glutamate will make you anxious, the histamine will give you allergies and make you anxious. And you’re allergic to everything, and you’re feeling horrible. Now, it doesn’t end there, Dr. Dad. It then goes on to make something called gast dermins that creates pyroptosis, where it actually starts punching a hole in the cell membrane. And you’re only going to be as healthy as your cells are. Just a little background. You know, we’re made up of trillions of cells, and each one of them has what’s called a lipid bilayer, made from lipids, which comes from fats. And you’re only going to be as healthy as those membranes are. So that’s why we coined an interesting phrase. Cellular CPR. Construct the cell. Protect the cell. And restore the cell membrane. And we believe that’s going to be revolutionary in the functional medicine world. So… It’s not hard to figure out that if you start punching holes in the cell membrane, that’s not a good thing, okay? Bob Miller 00:31:22 Now… There’s an interesting molecule called NAD. Thicotide adenoside dinucleotide. And anybody who’s in the, you know, listening to the health podcasts and things, they’re… They’re, they’re learning about NAD. And I’m going to show you a chart later, all the good things that NAD does, but For the most part, it helps what’s called sirtuins. And sirtuins are quite interesting. If anybody’s looking at longevity. The sirtuins is where they’re looking at.Because sirtuins turn on good things. Turn off bad things. And I’ll show some charts on that later. So for right here, this sirtuin uses NAD, to slow down NF-kappa-B. CERT 2 uses NAD to slow down an ORP3. So, if we’ve got genetic weakness on these, or we don’t have enough NAD, We don’t hold this pathway back. Make sense? Dr. Deb Muth 00:32:24 Yeah, makes perfect sense. Bob Miller 00:32:25 Now, I’ll show this a little bit later. So, people are like, oh, well, I’m gonna start taking some NAD. Dr. Deb Muth 00:32:31 Right. Bob Miller 00:32:32 And there’s functional doctors who give NAD intravenous. It was just this morning, I was talking to a woman who said, Oh my gosh. I went and got intravenous NAD, and it took me a month to recover from that. Dr. Deb Muth 00:32:45 Hmm. Bob Miller 00:32:46 what happens is, and I’ll show this in a little more detail, there’s an enzyme called CD38, that’s stimulated by NF-kappa-B. And it takes NAD, To make intracellular calcium. that stimulates NLRP3 and actually makes things worse. So, if we have this guy upregulated, and I’ll show a chart what does that. taking NAD will make you worse. Again, when I go into the software, I’ll show you that whole pathway, so… I would encourage people, you know, just don’t go out and start taking massive amounts of NAD, you know, stick your toe in the water, see how you do. Because everything you’ve heard about, how good it is, is true, unless this guy says, oh, thank you very much, let me make more inflammation. Now, this might be part of our innate immune system, that if we have some pathogen that’s gonna kill us. By golly, we want that to happen. But if this is happening by environmental factors, Then it’s detrimental. So the immune system that protected us a thousand years ago now might be turning on us because of the environmental factors that we showed earlier. All right. Then there’s an enzyme called PARP that’s NAD-dependent, and that actually repairs strain breaks in your DNA. Now, the next thing that happens… is there’s an enzyme called NADPH oxidase that gets stimulated. and something called INOS. Now, I’m sure most people know about nitric oxide. It’s a gas that dilates your blood vessels. That’s why sometimes they’ll even give people drugs, nitroglycerin, to boost their nitric oxide. That’s why people are doing beetroots and other things to boost their nitric oxide. But there’s an OS3 enzyme that makes the nitric oxide that’s good for blood flow. But there’s an INOS That makes nitric oxide to kill pathogens. probably might be the third or fourth time I’ve said this. That’s a good thing, unless it isn’t. So, if it’s killing some pathogen, great. It was just misfiring. it combines… With superoxide that’s made by this enzyme, and makes something called peroxynitrite, which is one nasty free radical that chews you up and spits you out. So, the NOx enzyme, NADPH oxidase, uses NADPH, To make this free radical called superoxide. If we have time, we’ll get into it. NADPH is what your body needs to recycle your antioxidants.So, I coined the phrase, the NADPH steel. Where the NOX enzyme takes this very important NADPH, And rather than being useful, makes superoxide. Now, again, is that fine if you’ve got some bacteria to kill? Of course. But if it’s just chronically running, it’s just making all this chronic inflammation. Then it makes something called hydrogen peroxide. And we need to clear hydrogen peroxide by 3 enzymes, catalase, thyroid reduction. And glutathione peroxidase. If we have genetic issues on here, or we don’t have the cofactors. There’s something called the Fenton reaction, discovered in 1895 by Dr. Fenton. Where hydrogen peroxide combines with iron to make what are called hydroxyl radicals. And guess what they do? They create lipid peroxides, That damages your cell membranes. Now, again, the body’s pretty darn amazing. We have glutathione, And here’s where your body’s taking glutathione and recycling it. But look who’s needed to recycle it. NADPH. So, if this guy up here is chewing it up, We don’t recycle our glutathione. And then an enzyme called glufon peroxidase 4, Takes this damaged lipid and repairs it. So, here we’ve got this protecting, we want to protect it by not having this happen. But then we also need this guy to do the restoration. So, there’s a lot that can go wrong in here, Dr. Deb. Dr. Deb Muth 00:37:07 There’s a lot that could go wrong. And I can imagine some of my listeners are thinking that lipid peroxidase, is that the same thing as what they’re thinking of when we talk about lipids and cholesterol? Is that the same process that’s happening there? Bob Miller 00:37:22 Well, no, no, the lipids can be used to make cholesterol, but here we’re talking about where they’re going to build the cell membrane. And they’re being… and they’re being, destroyed. If anybody would like to see a visual representation of this, just go on YouTube. And type in, ferrooptosis Animation. cool little video, it’s about 3 minutes long, and it shows the lipids coming over, being oxidized, and now GPX4 fixes them, so… YouTube, Pharaoptosis Animation, cute little video. It’s just that really… Shows vividly what we’re… what we’re talking about here. Now, this is… Dr. Deb Muth 00:37:59 And so this is very common, too. Like, a lot of people do hydrogen peroxide IVs. Dr. Deb Muth 00:38:04 And so, if somebody doesn’t know their genetics, they could have a problem with doing those, just like they could doing the NADHIVs, correct? Bob Miller 00:38:13 Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I’ve talked to so many, you know, of course, the hydrogen peroxide kills pathogens. I mean, that’s what it does. So… but I’ve spoken to so many people that said. I had one client that said they’ve never been the same after having one hydrogen peroxide infusion. Dr. Deb Muth 00:38:30 Interesting. Bob Miller 00:38:31 Yeah. So… it can be… I see why people use it, because it. Bob Miller 00:38:36 pathogens, But on the other hand. And now’s a good time to speak about… I don’t have it on here, but there’s a, there’s an enzyme called the HFE gene. And that is what causes you to absorb iron. And there’s mutations in it that cause something called hemochromatosis. Were you overabsorb iron? Now, true hemochromatosis is when both parents give you a mutation. But there’s now growing evidence even a heterozygous can cause a little bit more iron absorption, not to the human chromatosis point, but overabsorption. So, if you overabsorb iron, And you have too much hydrogen peroxide that’s not cleared, All kinds of inflammation. Now, what’s happened is sometimes this inflammation Will damage the red blood cells. And some well-meaning doctor says, oh, you need some iron. And they take iron and it makes it worse. So, can’t tell you how many people I’ve said, you’ve got the overabsorption of iron, and they say, well, that can’t be right, because I’m low in iron. Well, that could be because it’s being chewed up here. Dr. Deb Muth 00:39:40 Sure. GPX1 and TXN turn it into, to water. The, catalase turns it into water and oxygen. Dr. Deb Muth 00:39:58 Now, I see a lot of my clients who have mutations or SNPs on that GPX gene, on that glutathione gene. And they really struggle to clear a lot of their toxins. Bob Miller 00:40:12 Sure. Dr. Deb Muth 00:40:14 Yeah, absolutely. Well, GPX4. Bob Miller 00:40:18 is what, repairs, but you can see GPX1 Is what uses glutathione. To turn hydrogen peroxide. So, but it all depends upon having enough glutathione. Dr. Deb Muth 00:40:30 Yeah. Bob Miller 00:40:31 Well, guess who controls making a glutathione? Dr. Deb Muth 00:40:34 Nerf 2. Bob Miller 00:40:37 So, if you have a keep one weakness, or strength to two… I’m sorry, keep one is too strong. Nrf2 is too weak. You don’t make glutathione. So, when a lot of people do that, it’s like, well, I’m gonna take glutathione. Dr. Deb Muth 00:40:51 Right. Bob Miller 00:40:52 And some do great, and some do poorly. You know, because… and I’ll show this on one of the other charts. You can see here that the, The glutathione has to be recycled. And if we don’t recycle it, it actually turns into superoxide free radical. So… NADPH are the cofactors, For taking the oxidi… here’s oxidized glutathione, here’s reduced. So, this is a good glutathione. After it does its job, you can see it becomes oxidized.We need to recycle it. Well, if we have weakness on the enzyme that does that, or a weakness in Nrf2, or not enough NADPH. The oxidized glutathione never gets recycled. So, I’ve talked to a lot of people who said, oh, glutathione made me so sick, and say, well. Dr. Deb Muth 00:41:43 Yeah. Bob Miller 00:41:44 You need it, but you need to recycle it. Dr. Deb Muth 00:41:46 Can you speak for just a brief moment, too, about MTHFR? That is a very popular gene, it’s all over social media as the major gene, but can you speak to a little bit about that, and how that fits into this whole process of things? Because it is just such a small piece. Dr. Deb Muth 00:42:04 understanding genetics. Bob Miller 00:42:06 Yeah, to be honest, it drives me nuts. Dr. Deb Muth 00:42:08 Me too. Bob Miller 00:42:11 Alright, so… You know, there are people on social media I won’t say what I think, I’ll be kind. But… But the, And, you know, they might mean well. But they talk about, if you have MTHFR and COMT and PEMT, that’s… oh my goodness, that’s horrible, and we’ll fix that for you, and you’ll be fine. Bob Miller 00:42:36 it just irritates me to no end. And it really could get anybody who’s doing this legitimately in trouble. I mean, I’m afraid someday, you know, there might be some cracking down on this kind of nonsense. Now, to answer your question about MTHFR. Dr. Deb Muth 00:42:51 I mean, it really is, but I’ll tell you what, why don’t we hold that thought until I go to another map and I can actually… Okay. Bob Miller 00:42:56 But the real… the cliff notes is the MTHFR puts a methyl group on your folate, which is needed, but it has gotten way, way, way too much attention. And people learn they have MTHFR, and they start taking a multivitamin with methylfolate, then they take a B vitamin with methylfolate. Dr. Deb Muth 00:43:13 And they’re pushing it too hard. Bob Miller 00:43:15 Yeah. So I can’t tell you how many people I’ve helped by saying, stop it. Dr. Deb Muth 00:43:20 Yeah, take less of it. Bob Miller 00:43:21 Take less of it, yeah. So, yeah. Yeah, there’s a… If somebody, say, ranked the enzymes at their level of importance, MTHFR might be 40 or 50 on a scale of 100, you know. Keep one Nerf two. big deals. Dr. Deb Muth 00:43:40 deals. Bob Miller 00:43:41 NQO1 that I didn’t even talk about yet, NQO1, takes your, NA… your NAD goes into NADH, To make electrons for the electron transport chain. you need NQ01 to bring that back. If that’s not working, and I’ll show you on the NAD map how disastrous that can be. Now, the next piece is here, and I think You know, if you talk to any school teachers and say, if you’ve taught for more than 10 years, how are the kids today? Every one of them says, more ADD, ADHD, more autism. Just look at human beings, we’ve never been so agitated. You know, everybody, and it might be a social media thing, but people take a position on something, and if anybody doesn’t share that position, they view them as the enemy. Dr. Deb Muth 00:44:29 And it’s kind of scary what’s happening to us. Bob Miller 00:44:33 So, we can’t agree to disagree anymore. We see anybody who has a differing opinion as the enemy. And, you know, there was… there’s people that didn’t have Christmas dinners together, because they had political differences, like… Dr. Deb Muth 00:44:44 Excuse me. Bob Miller 00:44:45 can’t you put your political differences aside to have Christmas together, you know? Dr. Deb Muth 00:44:49 Right? Bob Miller 00:44:50 become that, you know, no matter what your position is, and I’m not saying anyone’s right or wrong, I’m just saying. You know, in the old days, they used to say that the Republicans and Democrats in Congress would argue policy and then go have dinner together. And now everybody’s all up in arms, angry. Dr. Deb Muth 00:45:05 Yeah. Bob Miller 00:45:06 So… There’s likely multiple reasons for that. But let me show you one of them. That, you know, to what degree this is… very important, we don’t know, but I think We’re beginning to believe this is very important. So, there’s something… there’s a neurotransmitter called GABA. And God buys the don’t worry, relax, be happy. Chill. Okay. Dr. Deb Muth 00:45:31 Nobody has enough of that anymore. Bob Miller 00:45:33 Well, yeah, you’ll be surprised what I’m gonna show you. So, let me see if I can find a, Let me see if I can find the right slide here. Let me look for it here. So, there’s something called a GABA receptor site. And here you can see… This is a neuron, and this is where you, The neuron normally is excitatory. However, there’s normally low chloride in the neuron. Dr. Deb Muth 00:46:09 Hmm. Bob Miller 00:46:10 So, GABA itself is neither relaxing. For excitatory, all GABA does, it opens up what’s called a chloride channel. And then chloride, which has a negative charge, will flow into the neuron. Follow me there? Dr. Deb Muth 00:46:26 Yep. Bob Miller 00:46:27 And as it does, it changes this from a positive charge to a negative charge, And it’s relaxing. and inhibitory. Dr. Deb Muth 00:46:34 Hmm. Bob Miller 00:46:36 Now, on the other hand, there’s enzymes called NKCC1, That will push chloride in. and KCC2 that will bring chlor… oops and bring chloride out. And then there’s a sodium channel. And, sodium has a positive charge. And glutamate will push that in. So, as long as this is happening. And GABA says, receptor sites, open, chloride goes in, Chill. However, If NKCC1 Pushes extra chloride in. KCC2 doesn’t pull it out. and GABA hits the receptor site, the GABA comes flowing out, Sodium comes in, And now it’s excitatory. So Gabba didn’t change. GABA just opened the receptor site, that’s all it does. Dr. Deb Muth 00:47:33 Yeah. Bob Miller 00:47:34 But it’s the chloride balance that’s going to determine whether this is relaxing or not. Now, these are the things that go along with when they lose that KCC2 or gain NKCC1. Pain and sensitivity, burning electrical, neuropathic pain. Normal touch hurts. Sound and light sensitivity. Tinnitus can flare. Headaches and migraines. Seizure tendency. Body jolts. Spasticity, cramps, stiffness, startle reflex. Trouble falling asleep, non-restorative sleep. Anxiety, stress, reactivity, that’s what we have now. Hyperarousal, panic-like surges, irritability, racing thoughts. Brain fog, slowed processing, working memory slip-ups. Mental fatigue. Episodes of racing hearts, sweaty palms, guts on edge. Those are all the things that happen when this GABA switch occurs. Now, here’s what happens, and this is what I’m going to be presenting at an autism conference. When you have a newborn, they need that NKCC dominant to develop. By early childhood, it should… or, sorry, early adulthood. we should move over to the KCC dominant, that’s the taking the chloride out. Nice-looking 25-year-old boys, functioning very well. However, when we get microglia M1 upregulated. Because of environmental toxins, processed foods, Tylenol, aluminum. they stay in NKCC1 dominant, and there’s ADD, ADHD, Autism, the whole spectrum. because… They’ve not moved over to the… They’ve not moved over to the KCC2. And again, this is caused by… Environmental factors. Stimulating the microglia. And then, interleukin-1, interleukin-18 weakens KCC2, interleukin-1 beta, Strengthens NKCC1. high chloride. We open up the chloride channel, In Rebell Excitatory. So, I think when, When the pediatricians get ahold of this, they’re going to be very excited to know that This could be why we’re seeing such a rise, and not just autism, but ADD, ADHD, anxiety, the whole shit mess. Dr. Deb Muth 00:49:58 thing. Bob Miller 00:49:59 Yeah, so… and you can see NF-kappa-B stimulates that. These stimulate it, and I think that’s why everyone’s getting so anxious. Now, there’s a little bit more to it, and we’ll get into this when we look at some of the maps, but… The, the glutamate, Which is excitatory. will stimulate the NMDA receptor, make more glutamate, And glutamate will inhibit KCC2. And then we also need an astrocyte To, take both ammonia And glutamate, and… Turn them back into glutamine. And I’m going to talk to you a little bit about arachidenic acid, and if we have too much arachidenic acid. or TNFA is upregulated, that doesn’t happen. Ammonia goes up, and there may be multiple reasons for this, but this is a reason why some of the autistic kids do flapping. Dr. Deb Muth 00:50:49 Hmm. Bob Miller 00:50:50 Because they’re not clearing their ammonia. And you can tell if somebody has high ammonia by… they get that old person smell, you know. Dr. Deb Muth 00:51:00 Yup. Bob Miller 00:51:01 your vehicle cycle’s not taking out the, the ammonia. Now, last pathway here. There’s growing interest in mast cell activation. So, back here, we talked about peroxynitride. And that will stimulate mast cells, and those are white blood cells that are your best friend, unless they’re your worst enemy. Then it’ll make histamine. And there’s enzymes called histidine decarboxylase that’ll make more. Dr. Deb Muth 00:51:28 I’m sure everybody’s heard of DAO, the enzyme that degrades histamine. Yep. Bob Miller 00:51:31 We can have genetic weakness, we don’t make that. There’s an enzyme called histamine and methyltransferase, That, That breaks down the histamine. Then if we don’t do that, it’ll get stuck in the histamine receptor site. And then it’ll make something called, renin. Which will cause angiotensinogen to turn into angiotensin. One, that turns into angiotensin II,And that’s where people make aldosterone, where they’ll get the, The swollen ankles and high blood pressure. But interestingly, there’s an enzyme called ACE2, that takes this guy and turns it into angiotensin 1-7, Which is anti-inflammatory and also inhibits… TNFA. Now, you can have weakness on ACE2, But… and anybody’s saying, that sounds familiar? Dr. Deb Muth 00:52:25 That’s where COVID comes in, using ACE2. Bob Miller 00:52:28 And now we just found there’s literature that if you get COVID long enough, it can actually make ACE2 not be able to work as well. So look what it does. It comes down here, stimulates the NADPH oxidase, More superoxide. More peroxynitrite. And we’re on a cycle here. We’ve actually named this the Home Cycle Hypothesis, the proposed feed-forward loop. That just keeps feeding on itself. All being caused by… Primarily, The environmental factors. But hitting those who have genetic weakness the hardest. That’s why. Dr. Deb Muth 00:53:08 To the people. Bob Miller 00:53:09 Don’t live in a moldy house. One person is sick as can be, and the other person says, well, you must be imagining things, because I don’t feel anything. Dr. Deb Muth Yeah. Same thing with long haul, right? Two people can both get sick, one gets sick and never seems to recover, and somebody else gets sick, and they have absolutely no problems with it at all. Bob Miller 00:53:30 Sure. Well, think about it, if you get COVID, and ACE2 is weak, and some of this other stuff is going on. This thing just starts feeding upon itself. Dr. Deb Muth 00:53:38 Keep creating more inflammation, more complications, nothing’s calming down. Bob Miller 00:53:43 Yeah. Now, you, you ask about, MTHFR. So, this is the, this is the, the software called Functional Genomic Analysis. There’s a demo report we have. So, let’s talk a little bit about, MTHFR. So, we actually have a map called a methylation map. Now, what happens is, when you do your saliva test, you, you know, you spit, you put some saliva. in a collection kit, goes to a lab, takes out the DNA data, sends it to the computer, and now you can actually see it visually. Okay. So, it’s gonna take a second for this, data to load up, it’s, and each of these Circles, each of these ovals, is an enzyme. And the data gets loaded up to see where it is. So, until it gets loaded up here, I didn’t preload this. There it goes. So… The primary thing about methylation is There’s a nasty substance called homocysteine that, if it’s too high, can really be detrimental. The body takes methylfolate, and combines with methyl B12, To bring this back up to methionine. And then through the MAT genes, we make SAMI, S-adml methionine. Which is involved in so many processes. Then after it does its thing, it turns back into homocysteine. And this thing needs to keep spinning around. That’s why, you know, it’s a good idea to keep homocysteine at, do you have a number that you’d like? 7, 8? What do you like for a number? Dr. Deb Muth 00:55:24 Yeah, I like mine below 7. Bob Miller 00:55:26 Yeah. So if the homocysteine goes too high. It, caused all kinds of problems. So, here’s where you ask about the MTHFR. So, here you can see on this individual. I click on MTHFR, and you can see it comes up here, here’s the C677. And you can see here where it says, variants. I’ll… I’ll draw in case somebody’s having a hard time seeing that. So, you can see there’s nothing in there. That means there’s no genetic mutations. If one parent would have given a mutation, there’d be a 1. If both parents did, there’d be a 2. Now, here’s why Yes, methylation is important, I’m not saying it isn’t important, but look at this MTHFRC677. In my software. Only 42.5% of the population does not have a mutation. 44.7% have won. 12.9 have 2. So, this isn’t some rare, oh my god, I’m gonna die… Kind of thing, yeah. Dr. Deb Muth 00:56:27 Right. Bob Miller 00:56:28 So, And then what happens is that, and again, I’m not dismissing methylation, I… we could do a whole show on methylation. Bob Miller 00:56:36 get it. But I think that what people are doing is they’re, they’re learning about MTHFR, they get it measured, they panic. They start taking massive amounts of methylfolate, which many times is to their detriment. Dr. Deb Muth 00:56:50 Well, it’s… and isn’t it true, too, with MTHFR, like, you have to also look at MTR, MTRR, and the more we stack up of those, the more complicated than MTHFR can be. It’s not… it’s not as simple as just saying MTHFR 677 versus 1298. It’s more complex than that, kind of like what you’ve already shown with some of the other things. There’s more to it than just that one little sliver. Bob Miller 00:57:17 Oh, sure, well, let’s take a look. So, remember I said there’s a cofactor? One of the cofactors is called FAD. Just a Bob Miller observation, that’s all. But when people have trouble with their riboflavin and they don’t have enough FAD, They’re doing much worse than people who have just a C677. So, right here, you could have perfect C677th. And if you don’t have the cofactor, it’s not gonna work, okay? Dr. Deb Muth 00:57:48 And as you said, there’s an MTR enzyme. Bob Miller 00:57:51 that takes methylfolate and methyl B12, to spin it around. So, here on this individual. here’s your… here’s your B vitamins, or I’m sorry, your B12s. There’s an enzyme called TCN1 that takes it from the stomach into the blood. Then there’s other enzymes that take it from the blood into the tissue. And if you’re having trouble here. Well, then you’re not going to have this working, so… Even if you don’t have MTHFR, And you have MTR, like this, no, I’m sorry, this person doesn’t. But they have the MTRR, and then they don’t have enough B12, this isn’t gonna work, aside from that. And then there’s a middle pathway. And then there’s enzymes called the MAT1. they take the methionine to the salmon. If that’s not working, we stick… we get stuck in methionine. So, it’s, it’s not just an MTHFR. And then, one of the things that people forget about. is through these CBS enzymes and CTH, We make cysteine, which is needed to make glutathione. The master antioxidant. So, it really is that… I call it the, The 3D chess game played underwater. Dr. Deb Muth 00:59:07 It really is. I mean, I see people who have CVS, COMT, glutathione, MGHFR genes. And some of them function just fine. Like, they have Like, I look at this person and I’m like, oh my gosh, I don’t know how they’re functioning because they’re double mutated on so many pathways, but yet they don’t have a lot of symptoms, they don’t have a lot of complications. Somehow their body has figured out a way to adapt to what it has so it can stay alive and it can function at a high functioning level. Bob Miller 00:59:36 Yeah, and they may be, you know, eating right? Yeah. Staying out of a moldy house. reducing stress. So, it’s diet, it’s stress, it’s genetics, environmental factors. So, yeah, we can’t just say somebody’s gonna be good or somebody’s gonna be bad. You know, some people get scared, oh, I got all these, it’s like, well… Bob Miller 00:59:56 Are you living in a moldy house? You know, and if you live in a moldy house and your glucuronidation pathway doesn’t do well, or if you’re, you know, a smoker, or you’re constantly eating junk food, I mean, all. Bob Miller 01:00:07 things come together. Although, you know, when we focus on genetics, we’re well aware that this is just a piece of it. You know, you could have identical twins, Genetically, and if one… Is exposed to mold and smokes and drinks and stressed out. They’re gonna be a whole lot sicker than their sibling. Bob Miller 01:00:28 Yep. Dr. Deb Muth 01:00:29 Yeah, it’s that concept of taking twins, and one gets raced with one family, and one gets raced with another family, and they don’t have the same… problems that… that each other have, you know? It’s a very unique situation, we don’t think about that enough. Bob Miller 01:00:44 Alright, so again, genetics loads the gun, environment pulls the trigger. So, if you’ve got a loaded gun, but you don’t have the triggers, you’re okay. Dr. Deb Muth 01:00:53 Yeah. Bob Miller 01:00:54 Yeah. So, remember I said I was going to talk about NAD? So, here’s NAD, and what it does, it turns into NADH. And what NADH does, it, Comes down this pathway, what’s called the electron transport chain. And that makes your ATP, that’s your energy. So, if this wasn’t working, we wouldn’t be alive, because we wouldn’t have energy. So it donates an electron, that’s why it’s called electron transport chain. So, we need NAD, To make this, to make the energy. But remember I said that NQ01, this would probably be, like, on my top 10 list of… Bob Miller 01:01:36 Much more important than MTHFR. This one takes NADH back to NAD. If we’re stuck over here, We’re low in this NAD+, But what happens is, NQO1 also provides CoQ10. And CoQ10 Is what’s needed for the electron transport chain to flow. So if we get too many electrons up here. And they don’t turn them into energy. They make a nasty free radical called superoxide. Okay. Now, NAD plus also makes NADPH, And that is needed. Remember I said we need to recycle our antioxidants. So, if we have a problem with FAD from riboflavin. Yeah, we don’t have enough NADPH, Glutathione’s not getting recycled, and you’re gonna be inflamed. And you take glutathione, you’ll feel worse. There’s another enzyme called thimoredoxin. Same thing, needs NADPH and FAD. And same way with your nitric oxide, there’s an enzyme called NOS3, That makes the nitric oxide that dilates your blood vessels. And if we don’t have enough NADPH or fat, You’re gonna make superoxide. Rather than nitric oxide. Now, remember

Vom Låden und vom Leben Nummer 38 - Geduld (...wie immer zum hören und mitlesen oder lesen und mithören, ganz wie ihr wollt) Vom Låden und vom Leben (audiofile #38: Geduld) (als Ergänzung zu Hammersbald) Servus ihr Liem dord draußn, heud isses amål widder soweid. Heud du i wieder fränggln. Awer - un des hab i scho a boarmål bewiesn - s gehd a ohne Grand. Dann nacherd hald a weng filosofisch. Mei Deema is Geduld. Könnd "se männie scheids of Geduld" sei. Oder mer könnds a ganz annersch aufzie, ehm als Kommunigazionsdeema. Der Sinn zwischn die Zeiln oder besser gsåchd zwischn die Wörder oder Subdexd. Weil s gibbd dodål unnerschiedliche, sozumsåchn fassd scho audodynamische Endwigglungen in Gschbrächn. Zum Beisbiel grichd wer was nein falschn Hals und is nacherd dodål aggressief. Oder mer dud aneinanner vorbeireed und gefühld goar nix verschde. Oder ehm blubberblasn ausm Mund rauslass, wo derre annere, also der Gschbrächsbaddner noch neddamål mid gschbrochener Schbråche in Zusammenhang bring kå. Ja echd, des gibbds. Awer des isses gar nedd, wo ich heud drauf nauswill. Des war blos der Åfang. Manchmal bassierds, un es endwiggeld sich auf wundersame Weise a diefschürfendes Geschbräch aus alldächlichn Flosgln. Aus Smålldåg sozumsach. Des kann nacherd innem Daxi genauso bassier, wie innem Waddezimmer oder während enner Füsio oder Erchoderabbieschdund. Warum des nacherd so bassier dud, wäss ich echd ned. Da gibbds sicher a boar unnerschiedliche, möchliche Ursåchn. Gloar. Kann sei, dass die zwä - oder mehr, wo sich unnerhåld du, a ähnliche Wellenlänge hamm, wie ma so schö sach dud. Kann a sei, dass dess Wedder eefach so schlechd is, dasses nix hergeb dud, um drüwer zu redd. Vielleichd gibbds da a meddafüsische Gründ oder esodärische. Awer eichndlich isses Wurschd, wieso und woher des komm dud. Weil wichdich is des Ergebnis - oder der Zugewinn, den wo mer vou sowas hamm kå. Und des is ned blos des wichdichsde, sonnern essenziell. Schdell mer uns amål vor, ich liech bei meiner Erchoderabeudin oder Füsio oder wie ach immer. Und irchndwie kommd nacherd des Gschbräch auf Geduld. Würd sich ja åbied. Hab ich euch scho a boar mal verzähld, dass ich im ledzdn Jåhr Geduld und so a Ard Demud glernd habb. Gibbds a ann widzichn Beidråch üwer mein Füsio und mei Ergoderabeudin. Odder besser gsåchd sogar mid denne. Awer zurügg zum Deema. Geduld. Also sinn mir aus bekanndn Gründn auf des Dema Geduld kommn. Und dann gabs des, was ganz früher im Bayrischen Rundfungg kommn is. Zuhören, endsbannen, nachdenggn. (gud, s wår zuschaun, awer des kammer schonnamål frei inderbrädier) Irchndwie simmer nacherd von enner Erkenndnis zur annern kommn. Und da dadran möcherd ich euch heud deilhab lass. Der Åfang war, wie gesåchd, dass mer uns üwer Geduld als Duchnd unnerhald hamm. Wardscheins hab ich mid meim Bee ågfangd, und dass ich im ledzdn Jåhr Geduld glernd habb. A weng jednfalls. Also Geduld mid Zeuch, wo ich nix dran ändern kå. Wirglich ned mei Kernkombedenz. Immer noch ned. Awer immerhin a weng. Nacherd simmer dazu gekommn, dass derre Nina ihr Vadder edz im Alder a viel geduldicher gworrn is, dassder edz sogår freiwillich länger im Grangnhaus gebliem is. Also ned länger, wie die Ärzd gsåchd hamm, awer länger, wie er eichndlich gwolld had. Weilers hald eigsehn hadd. Un dass des a Seechn is. Ned blos führ ihm, sonnern a für sie, also für die Aghörichn. Und ja, Geduld ühm und die eichenen Hummeln im Oasch unner Kondrolle hald. Is gewissermaßn a Seechn. Awer wo hörd der Seechn auf und wo wird dadraus a Fluch? Nämmlich zum Beischbiel der Fluch der Schdagnazion? Wennsde immer dein Drieb nach vorne zurüggnemm dusd, nacherd kommsde nämmlich a ruggzugg in soanne Endlosschleife, wosde waddsd und waddsd un sich nix dud. Ich hab dann a widder den Imbuls gehm, dass des zum Beischbiel a schlechd sei kå, als Eichnschaffd vonnem Vorgsedzdn oder Scheff. Führd zu Schdillschdand aus falsch verschdannenen Rüggsichdnahme und fehlgeleideder Geduld. Bassierd mir a immer widder. Dabei hädd ich mich früher führan guudn Scheff ghaldn. Ich habb zum Beischbiel unnere Schaukambfdrubbe üwer zwanzich Jåhr zammghaldn und a vorwärds gebrachd. Des had sich nacherd, wie ich aufghörd hab schnell alles in Wohlgefallen aufglösd. Awer ich bin wardscheins eefach blos a guder Hüdehund, wo die Leud zammhald kå. Awer ehm kei guder Scheff. Da wärs nämmlich manchmal besser wenicher Geduld zum zeich. Sonsd nennd mer des mangelndes Durchsedzungsvermöchn und schlechde Führungsgwalidädn. Sozumsåch die - odder enne vo denn vieln Bedeudungen vo Geduld. In dem Fall zum Beischbiel a a fehlgeleidede Schbielård vo derre Geduld. Na und dann hab ich a noch gemennd, dass es immer nen Unnerschied mach dud, obsde Geduld mid dir, mid annern oder mid Fordschridd hasd. Also Arbeidsfordschridd oder Erfolg, wemmer so sach will. Ich bin zum Beischbiel unheimlich geduldich mid åschdrengenden un rebedidiefn Arbeidn. Da kann ich schdundnlang sidz bleib. Zegg mich richdichgehend fesd. Und ned blos Schdundn, sonnern a üwer Jåhre und Jåhrzehnde. Des is awer a widder a annere Abård von Geduld. Des ist Durchhaldevermöchn und Ausdauer. Bösårdich Aussidz genannd. Hammer scho mehr wie drei unnerschiedliche Bedeudungen von Geduld. Oder Inderbrädazionen. Oder Fehlinderbrädazionen. Was dudn der Dudn sach? Ädümmologisch kommd des Word üwer Umweeche vom ladeinischn "tolerare", also doleriern. Im Middlhochdeudschn wars (ge)dult, aldhochdeudsch (gi)dult, eichndlich "das Dulden", Im Middlhochdeudschn doln, un aldhochdeudsch dolēn was draachn bedeud dud, oder a duldn. Die KaI schbuggd aus, dass der Dudn des folchendermasn definierd: "Geduld is die Fähichkeid, Ruhe und Gelassenheid zu bewåhr, wennsde auf was ward dusd oder a unågenehme Siduazion erdråch dusd. Geduld gild als aggdiefe Duchnd, die wo Ausdauer, Selbsdkondrolle un Frusdrazionsdolleranz erfordern dud, um Ziele drodz Verzöcherungen zum erreich. Geduld kammer durch Achdsamkeid und gezielde Üwungen erlern, um Schdress zum reduzier." Also doch a Duchnd. Hmm warum dun mir nacherd so viele neggadiefe Asbeggdli eifall? Wardscheins isses hald wie immer. Erschdns is alles relladief und zwäddens machd die Dosis des Gifd. Wenn Geduld zu Drächheid und Faulheid wird, isses ehm kei Geduld mehr. Wenn Geduld zu Insubordinazion und Schdillschdand führd, nacherd isses wohl a kei Geduld mehr, sondern Feichheid oder Blödheid. Und wenn Geduld dazu führ dud, dass du der ennziche Debb bisd, der wo des Zeuch erledich dud, weil die annern wissn, dass du geduldich, beziehungsweise blöd genuch bissd, nacherd is dess sicher kei Duchnd mehr. Mir isses gloar, dasses da noch viel mehr Asbeggdli gebb dud, wie ich edz aufgezähld habb. Awer so geduldich bin ich ned, dass ich dess bis zum End verdief du. Weil die Erchoderrabieschdunde war nämmlich rum, wie mir an dem Bunggd wårn. Awer ich find, dass des scho ganz schö viel war für so an Smålldåg un a ganz schö filosofisch. Und weil ich edz immer noch mindesdenz zwä mål die Woche zur Füsio oder / und zur Ercho muss, is mir dess a echde Freud, dass ich zumindesd in derre Zeid geisdiche Geschbräche führ kå. Des hilfd mir arch bei meiner ganz bersönlichn Geduldsbrobe. Und vielleichd hadds bei euch ja a a Üwerleechung åschdoß gekönnd. Is a inneressands Deema. Müssd mer a amål n Bied dazu befraach. Wissd scho, den, der mir den Unnerschied zwischn dringend und wichdich verglärd had. Der wäss da beschdimmd was... Für heud reichds mir ersd amål, dass ich da a Deema draus hab mach gekönnd, was zumindesd subjeggdief zimmlich inneressand is. Drodzdem is edz finiddo und ich verabschied mich wie immer bolliglodd. Dschau, arriffedertschi, euer Gerd 

Dr. Deb Muth 0:03What if everything you’ve been told about getting healthy is backwards?What if chasing symptoms with pills, procedures, and quick fixes is exactly why you’re still sick? Tired, inflamed, and frustrated. Today, I’m sitting down with Dr. Holly Donahue, a naturopathic doctor who walked away from corporate burnout to discover the truth.Your body already knows how to heal. You just need to remove what’s blocking it, and give it what it’s missing. If you’re done with Band-Aid solutions and ready for real, lasting transformation, this conversation changes everything. Welcome back to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, the show where we uncover the root causes of chronic illness, explore cutting-edge regenerative medicine, and empower you with the tools to heal. I’m Dr. Deb, your medical detective, and today, we’re diving into the hidden truth about whole body wellness, and why treating symptoms will never give you the vibrant health you deserve. I’m joined by Dr. Holly Donahue, a licensed naturopathic doctor with over two decades of clinical experiencing Helping high performers heal from burnout, chronic fatigue, hormone imbalance, and stubborn weight issues. She’s the founder of Simple Health, and she’s here to share the science-backed approach to root cause healing that addresses your body, mind, and spirit, not just your lab values. If you or someone you love has been diagnosed with a chronic condition, or is struggling with unexplained symptoms like fatigue, brain fog, hormonal chaos, or chronic inflammation. This episode is for you. Please share it with them. So, as usual, grab your cup of coffee, tea, or whatever helps you unwind, settle in, and let’s get started on your journey to deeper healing. And we’ll be right back after a word from our sponsor. All right. So, Dr. Donahue, let’s start with the question that’s on everyone’s mind, right? How did you transition away from corporate and into the world of, naturopath… natural medicine, naturopathic medicine, root cause medicine, all the wonderful terms we’re using for this these days? Dr. Holly Donahue 02:56Yeah, first of all, thanks for having me, Dr. Debb. I so appreciate it, and that is a beautiful question, and I will share with you my health journey and why I got into this, and… how I got to do this amazing work, right? Because I always believed, for me, my higher being is God, and it walked right into me, right? Because I was pretty happy in the apparel industry. So, just as you said, I was in the apparel industry, I, my education doesn’t really matter, but double, like, marketing and textile marketing, and I was in design, and I was working in design. from LA to London to the East Coast. And 2 days after September 11th, to sum it up, I got laid off. Even though I had been pulled out of a job where my vice president of the company was like, I want you to come down here with me, and the apparel industry, you’re switching every two to three years. For those that don’t know it, that’s just how the journey works, and I was known as a changemaker in the field. And so, here we are two days after September 11th, and I was seeing a naturopath, and I was, let’s see, 29 to 30, right? And so, prior to that, the reason why I searched out for a naturopath was because in my teenage years, and… Up until that time, I was suffering with horrible menstrual cramps and horrible depression, hence why I moved to LA, thinking if I was in the sun all the time, my life would change, which we all do, change our place, change our time, things will change. Had nothing to do with family or roots, but I thought, if I’m around sunshine all the time, I won’t be depressed. Well, wherever you go, there you are, because it went with me, right? So I had my foot down to the ground, and I was just like, I am committed to not living life like this, right? Even at 7 years old, I had strep ear all the time, and my mom’s like, we’re gonna have your tonsils out, and I’m like, no we’re not. And she goes, no, you’re gonna feel so much better, no more strep ear. And I’m like, God gave them to me for a reason, you’re not taking them out. She’s like, okay, like, I was really strong. And so, let’s wind up to 2 days after September 11th. Prior to that, I had started to retake chemistry and biology, because I haven’t taken it since my textile years, which was a different chemistry, right? And so, I thought, well, I’ll just start and see where it goes, because my naturopath at the time. Dr. Dadama was like, we need more naturopaths, and I’m like, I’m really good where I am. I love what I do, I love corporate America, I love designing, I love product development. And he’s like, no, no, no, so he kept talking. Well, when this all fell… And 2 days after September 11th, I raised my hand and I said, God, I hear you. I went off to naturopathic medicine school in my 30s. And I never looked back, and I just really believe the gift of healing was, put together for me in so many ways. And so, why do I love talking about natural medicine, naturopathic medicine? Because I was not gonna just take an antidepressant, which is what the medical world… they wanted to give me a pill for a nail, that’s what I call it. I didn’t need to be on birth control. I wasn’t sexually active. Right? So none of that made sense to me. And it wasn’t until I really changed my nutrition, began to understand who I am as a person, and what my body really needed, did I heal. Dr. Deb Muth 06:20Isn’t that amazing? Like, I think so many of us enter into the alternative quote-unquote world. Because what is happening over here in what is known as the traditional medicine world isn’t working for people, and no one’s listening to them, and we just follow the traditional protocol, whether it makes sense or not, this is the protocol, everybody gets it. There’s no individuality, no personalization, nothing that happens in that world. And so, people tend to go looking for that… that uniqueness that natural medicine and naturopaths allow to happen. And that’s where true healing actually begins, for so many people. Dr. Holly Donahue 07:02 Yes, and honestly, once my hormones were healed, hence why I talk about hormones all the time, and my thyroid was healed, and I was eating the right nutrition, and for those of you that are listening, please stop playing with nutrition, like, get on that… get on that connection of what works for you. And I’ll be honest, like, none of us as doctors can… we can guide you. what’s really good in eating, but figuring it out for yourself is important. And the other naturopath that I saw. Never healed me. I only got so far by just taking supplements and herbs. And I speak that into that, that’s why I’m so driven around the foundation of our medicine. I am not just saying this, is your nutrition. And until I changed my nutrition, and I figured out what workouts work best for me, and I took all the toxicity and mucus out of my body, I was just inflamed, and I didn’t really it. I was eating all the wrong foods. Right? My body can’t do searches and simple sugars, hence why I talk about it, and so many people are addicted to sugar, and they deny it. Dr. Deb Muth 08:11Yeah. Dr. Holly Donahue 08:11It’s a comfort food, right? So, I always say, I can’t heal you until I fix your nutrition and your sugar, and if that’s not something that you’re willing to work on with me with love, I am not the right practitioner. Because I remember it didn’t heal me. Dr. Deb Muth 08:29Yeah. I think we forget that nutrition is our medicine, right? Food is thy medicine. And it’s so easy for us to just say, but it’s easier to just take 10 supplements than it is to change my diet, cook for the whole family, and then cook for me. Nutrition is really, really difficult for people, because so much of who we are is born into nutrition, right? All of those family traditions of what we make at Christmas, or Easter, or what do you do for a celebration, when all of that changes, you kind of… you have a loss for things. So how do you work around that with people? Dr. Holly Donahue 09:12Yeah, so I look at that as, I’m always suggesting to individuals in all these different celebrations, like, if you’re the one, kind of. that is the pinnacle that’s creating the celebrations, could you change that, right? So maybe you always have people over for your children’s birthday parties, and you have cake, and, you know, you have a spaghetti dinner, whatever it looks like. I’m not judging, I’m not here to judge, I just know what works, right? Then maybe you get to change that. How about doing an outdoor activity with the children? Maybe choosing to go on a hike to the beach where they’re active. And then, you know, you do a healthy treat with them, or do we always have to have these celebrations around sugar? And I’m talking America, because I never saw this when I lived in Europe, like, the way it is here, right? Or, as adults, we’re celebrating with alcohol all the time, right? I removed sugar and alcohol from my diet years ago just because I knew I just didn’t feel good with it. I’m not judging that that’s what you need to do. So, back to your question, the other suggestion I say, if you can with your family, because I know there’s all sorts of… Hidden rules, quiet rules, ways you have to do things to be fit in. First of all, stand up for your own health, so I suggest that. And secondly, how about if you bring something to that meal that you can share with everybody that you know that you can eat? If that doesn’t work, I’m pretty sure, I’m pretty confident, unless I’m really not connected, and I’ve never had anybody not be able to maneuver this. When you go to a meal, look at where… what the protein is there, look at what vegetables are there. And if you’re wanting to have a piece of cake, or a bread, or whatever that looks like for you as you’re carbohydrate simple starch, choose one or the other, and make those choices. And secondly, never go to a holiday, or a meal, or a function, or a gathering starving. Dr. Deb Muth 11:22That is a great suggestion, because once you go there starving, it’s a smorgasbord of food, right? And you’re just grabbing whatever, because you’re so hungry. we don’t think about that. Most people do go to the party starving because they know there’s going to be all this amazing food there that tastes good but might not be healthy for us, but we’re looking forward to having those kinds of things. Dr. Holly Donahue 11:45And just have a little bit less, right? So, like, extreme, you know, maybe, like, grab 2 tablespoons of something if you want to have it, if that’s something. And the other truth is, is that I don’t want people to not live their life and enjoy their life because they’re learning what works for them. And when I say that, like, the 7 pillars of wellness, like. I’m saying movement, I’m saying relationships, I’m saying lifestyle, I’m even saying job, you guys, like, emotions, how you were born and raised, what that, like, that is all important for your health. And I always say, lots of times, I’m not even having constant medical conversations with patients, I’m really having discipline and connection. Like, how can you change how you’re doing things Because we’re so wired. to do… do it the way that we knew how to do it, and it’s really hard to change our neurological habits, and it’s really hard to change our wiring, especially if that’s how we were born and raised, right? And so, sometimes that can really trigger us. But, if you’re going to go to that meal, right, that we’re talking about. Then how about you can, like, encourage everybody afterwards, if it’s nice out, to go for a walk, or have some sort of movement together, so that you had what you wanted, you showed up, you didn’t feel like you were, like, out in left field, and you couldn’t have what everybody had, but you’re still grounded in your own truth, and making decisions, and then you’re like, hey, how about if we all go for a walk, like, and have a chat together? You know, like, you know, and you’re changing, probably, in the family, and then the deeper one that I love, Dr. Deb, the deeper one, is that ripple effect. Once people start to see you heal, they’re gonna ask you what you did. Dr. Deb Muth 13:42Yeah, that is so true. Dr. Holly Donahue 13:43effect is in the family. Dr. Deb Muth 13:45And people notice. We don’t always think people notice. They might not always say things, but they do notice when somebody’s changing. When they look better, their skin is better, their hair is better, they are more vibrant, they have more energy, they’re thinking better. They notice those types of things. Dr. Holly Donahue 14:04Yeah. And you’re not as short with loved ones, right? Because when you don’t feel good and you’re eating, you know, sugar, like, and I mean simple starches, because patients will be like, Dr. Donnie, I don’t eat sugar. And I’m like, okay, well, if you’re not eating sugar, why is your glucose 120 and your hemoglobin A1C 6?So the glucose is immediate, for those that are listening, don’t know. That’s an immediate reading of your glucose, or the hemoglobin A1C tells me what happened over the 3 months, right? A 3-month cycle, so then I get a clip picture of it, and I also test insulin as well, but what I say to them is, okay, you’re not eating sugar.But your body’s seeing something as sugar, because your glucose is still elevated, and your hemoglobin A1C is over 5.4 to 5.6, right? 5.8, you know what I mean? That’s when we start to look at prediabetes, and what people don’t understand is when those numbers, like hemoglobin A1C, are at that elevation, that didn’t just start yesterday. That has been fire in your body for a very long time. Same with cholesterol. Dr. Deb Muth 15:12Yeah.Yeah, we forget about that. You know, this is coming from decades of what we do, not 3 months of what we do. And most people, if we look back on their lifestyles. starting at a very young age, and it saddens me to see young little… little children, babies, right, 2 and 3 years old, that are drinking soda in a bottle. They’re drinking pure sugar everywhere, you know, Gatorade and all this stuff. That’s full of dyes and toxins and sugars, and then we wonder why they’re going crazy, driving mom and dad crazy, bouncing off the walls, or can’t sit still in school and can’t concentrate, because we’ve just fed them a drug that’s just wired them up. And then we just tell them to hurry up and be quiet, right? And that just doesn’t happen, but that… what we’re seeing now is starting at such a young age, you know? So many young people are feeding their kids just garbage all the time, breakfast, lunch, and dinner. It’s terrible. Dr. Holly Donahue 16:14And it’s fascinating, because I’ll use an example of that. Every year, my family and I go to Antigua for a couple weeks, and I just got back a couple weeks ago, and we go in March, right? And so, when… I was at, like, I’ll say the breakfast buffet, right? It’s healthier foods, and I’m not judging, but, like, my family would grab eggs, and we’re like, where’s our protein? Okay, you can do yogurt, you know what I mean? Like, choosing, right? And then our fruit would be our carbohydrate, and then there was nuts there, and so we were really, like, being choice, and then we all do like coffee, right? And so, we chose… I was looking around at the children there that were beautiful, like, little kids, and they’re so sweet, and they’re on their vacation at this nice resort with their family, and they’re eating Froot Loops, and they’re eating all these sugary donuts. Of course, the resort makes them, right? Because a lot of those places, they’re made, they don’t bring them in. Dr. Deb Muth 17:14And they’re. Dr. Holly Donahue 17:14eating croissants and breads, and then they’re, you know, running around, and the families are, like, chasing them. And then, over in another corner.there was a very well-behaved little boy with a mother and father that you could tell was very quiet, very grounded in what they fed the baby, and I just happened to talk to them later. And she happens to be a holistic wellness, yoga and Reiki practitioner, and he happens to be a yoga instructor, and they’re very cautious what they eat, so I noticed they were asking for a lot of vegetables and protein like we were doing, even at lunch and dinner. And I said, you guys are so grounded. But there’s the difference. I’m not trying to compare, but the difference is, just give your kid whatever they want on vacation. Well, you can’t take them back and be like, okay, now you can’t have that at home. like, they’re gonna start to eat the way you eat, so if you don’t go up and get a donut and a croissant, I’m just using simple examples, you are really making the way for the health for your child for the rest of your life. Or for their life, I should say. Dr. Deb Muth 18:29And it’s so important, right? Because we see so much disease happening at such a young age. I don’t know how you are, but in my practice. We have so many young people, you know, 10, 12, 14, 16, that are sick. And really, really sick. And you… it kind of keeps going. We go back and forth with this, like. why do we see so many more young people? One of my doctors treats autism, so we’ve always had young people in our office. But now we’re seeing the young teenagers that are sick, that are not autistic, but they’re now sick, and it’s more and more and more of them, and we just haven’t seen that. I’ve been in practice 25 years. We didn’t see that before. You know, you didn’t see people that were sick until they were, like, in their 40s, because they were burning the candle at both ends, and they just got burned out. But now that’s happening younger and younger. Dr. Holly Donahue 19:24100%, and that goes back to everything that we were talking about. And if you want to step into the other piece of it, it’s all the chemicals and the toxicity that are around us, the radiation from the cell phones. We are vibrational frequency beings. That is not a woo statement, that’s true, that’s how our cell structure is. Then we’re putting all this unnatural makeup and fake eyelashes, a lot of people are wearing, non-organic, natural makeup, you know, underarm deodorant that has aluminum in it, cleaning products that are full of toxicity, we’re breathing them in, you know, there’s mold in so many houses as well. And really, if we don’t have a really strong nutrition protocol for ourself, sleeping well, sleeping soundly as a child, or even as an adult, we’re not spiking cortisol all the time. You know, how can we build up our immune system as a young person, or even as an adult? I mean, these young people are in, like, they tell me all these things they were in, and I’m just like, oh my gosh, I’d be exhausted before, like, 2 o’clock in the afternoon. Dr. Deb Muth 20:36Right? Right. Dr. Holly Donahue 20:38because their parents are trying to work two jobs, they think the more they do, the better they are, the more it’ll look better on the resume, or at school, or the college that they get into. And it’s like, we’re telling this messaging to go, go, go. When do we tell them to meditate and pray and just be quiet? Dr. Deb Muth 20:55Yeah, we never do. Dr. Holly Donahue 20:56Creative. Dr. Deb Muth 20:57We never do. I have a young man in my practice, and he’s just amazing. Typical Type A personality, mast cell. He’s out of college, he’s on a sports team.And they literally go from 5 in the morning until midnight, and then these kids have to stay up and study, get their homework done, and so they’re running on maybe, if they’re lucky, 2 to 3 hours of sleep, and this happens 5 to 6 days a week.How do we possibly think that this is healthy for these kids? Dr. Holly Donahue 21:27Hmm. Yeah, then they’re living in dorms that probably aren’t healthy. Like, my niece lived in a dorm that was full of mold, right? And my sister got her an air purifier, but still, it’s still coming in. And then the food that these institutions feed you, and then I’ll have these, you know, because I live near UNH, my clinic is near UNH, and they’ll be like, but we’re on the meal plan, do you know what I mean? And so I try to teach them the best way to maneuver, like, a buffet and a meal plan. But the truth is, is like, is it really organic foods? Healthy, quality foods? Probably not. So then it’s like, you can’t really… it’s hard for you to get off the meal plan, like, it’s all these, like… I call it the matrix kind of connections, like, you can’t… there’s not flexibility, and then if you have mast cell, it’s like, holy cow, your immune system is already overfiring itself, and now you’re burning the cortisol at all ends, like, how can you calm that flame down? Dr. Deb Muth 22:27Yeah, I remember when my daughter went to college, she had celiac disease, and they forced her to do the meal plan as a freshman, even though we said there’s not going to be anything she can eat, it’s all going to be contaminated. So they forced us to purchase the meal plan, even though she couldn’t have anything on the meal plan. And so she had to go outside of school to eat, which made it more difficult. And just all the way around, they don’t make anything easy for kids that have special dietary needs in these colleges. Dr. Holly Donahue 23:00It’s… it’s… It’s very unfortunate, you know what I mean? And then it… and then what is the first thing that people release, which they really need, is to move their body and do exercise and movement, so when they’re exhausted, they have to show up to so many classes, or they’ll get dinged, but yet they’re not getting sleep at night, and then they’re showing up exhausted, then they’re trying to eat, they’re trying to function. And then here we step in trying to help them, and it’s just like they’re already overloaded, and so to give them a protocol to follow. it’s just really hard for me to watch that maneuvering, so then I just say, okay, let’s just do one thing at a time. It’s gonna be a slow healing, but one thing is better than the other. Dr. Deb Muth 23:49Right. Dr. Holly Donahue 23:50Nothing. Dr. Deb Muth 23:51Yeah, let’s… let’s turn our conversation a little bit, because we’re already heading in that direction, to the burnout, you know?This is epidemic in our country, and especially among high-performing women, the college kids, even the high school kids, the leaders, the busy moms, and everybody’s trying to hold everything together. What are you seeing in your practice in this population? Dr. Holly Donahue 24:13Yeah, and I actually have a lot of entrepreneurs and, like, executives, and believe it or not, I have a lot of nurses and some doctors in my program. I am seeing aha moments that they, even though some of the medical practitioners I have know that sleep is important, they’re just like, I had no idea, right?that sleep was so important, and that shutting off the, light, and your computers, and your email and everything, like, to create a sleep ritual, right, for them. They are so shocked with that. But I am seeing, if you’re asking me diagnosis, I am seeing more autoimmunity than I’ve ever seen before, especially in women.I am seeing… I only used to see, because I do the blood type nutrition, because Dr. Dadamo trained me in that. Dr. Deb Muth 25:07I use… Dr. Holly Donahue 25:07to only see diabetes in O blood type. And prediabetes. I would see some sugar tweaks in A’s and ABs and B’s, but not too much. Like, I see more nervous system dysregulation in an A, and I didn’t see a lot of cardiac in A’s, I saw it more in O’s. That almost… he’d probably roll over in his grave, but that’s almost, like, debunked now, because I’m seeing diabetes in A’s all day long, I’m seeing it in B’s, I’m seeing insomnia like there’s no tomorrow, I’m seeing a lot of, you know, undiagnosed mold and Lyme, where people are completely exhausted, and I know the labeling of chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia is just a catch-all diagnosis, so… Many of my patients know I don’t like to label, because if I tell you you have a condition, how many people hold on to that condition and use that as messaging for their life? And I… what I tell them is, let’s look at your labs functionally. I’m seeing very disrupt… I see a lot of mast cell now. I’m seeing a lot of long-haul COVID, or even lung conditions that… We have no idea where it’s coming from. Like, shortness of breath, wheezing, and they’re being diagnosed with asthma, but all the treatments that I’ve done over the years with asthma isn’t healing it. So I’ve got two people that are really at a risk, and have been on rounds of prednisone, and it’s really hard for me to watch, and so I’m stepping back into, you have to slow down, you get to do what you love, who are you being? everyday life, and how are you showing up? And your body, even though as an O, you can take a lot of stress. Dr. Deb Muth 26:57But yeah. Dr. Holly Donahue 26:58your body is too stressed out. And it’s shocking that the first thing that… not really, but it still is to me, the first thing people let go of is the nutrition, and the movement, and the sleep. Dr. Deb Muth 27:13Yeah. Dr. Holly Donahue 27:14And the main things… Dr. Deb Muth 27:15We need to heal. Dr. Holly Donahue 27:16Exactly. So when you ask me that, the biggest piece is blood sugar and stress, cortisol, and adrenals. Dr. Deb Muth 27:24Yeah. Dr. Holly Donahue 27:24Without a label. Dr. Deb Muth 27:26Yeah, we’re seeing a lot of the same thing. The autoimmunity, the mast cell is huge. More recently, probably the last two months, we’ve been seeing a lot of, very rare, strange cancers that don’t make sense. Dr. Holly Donahue 27:38Oh. Dr. Deb Muth 27:38We’re seeing a lot of undiagnosed mold and Lyme and things like that as well. I mean, it’s just so much more unusual things than what we’ve seen before.and struggling with patients, like things that we used to do, kind of like what you’re saying with the asthma, things that we’ve always done that have worked are not working the same way as they used to, not responding the same way. Since 2020, things have really changed a lot. It’s very difficult.Yeah. Dr. Holly Donahue 28:07And I think we’re in such transition in the world itself, like, with the nutrient depletion of the soil. And so it’s like, okay, like, how much do we supplement? How much do we use herbs? Like, I love… I personally use a lot of homeopathy. You know, even… that was my go-to. I lost my dad a year ago, we, and I’ve been in a round of grief, and it’s real, you know, and so my go-to was homeopathy, because I had all the other pieces together. However, I did notice, like, the fatigue was real, like, I just kind of wanted to sleep more, you know what I mean? Because it was just, like… but I’ve allowed that to happen, right? And I’ve just had to pivot my schedule, but I know I can as an entrepreneur, but still, you can too. You just have to ask those questions. Do you know what I mean? Like, you gotta figure out what works for you. But if you keep in that go-go state, like you and I just mentioned, all these diagnoses, they’re all, like, almost to me, epigenetics from the outside world, and then the pressure that we’re putting on ourselves, and then when we put that pressure on ourselves, our cells are just completely disrupted. Our gut microbiome is off. If our gut is off. then our immune system can’t heal, so then if COVID or Lyme or something, we get reinfected, that our immune system knows, it almost doesn’t know it anymore, because it’s full of toxicity. Dr. Deb Muth 29:34Yeah, I agree. Dr. Holly Donahue 29:35People are constipated! Dr. Deb Muth 29:36Yes, yes, just about everybody we see is constipated these days, yeah.I really like your approach. I appreciate how you focus on not just supplements and protocols, but you address all of it, like sleep, nutrition, lifestyle. Why is that whole body approach so critical when you’re working with people that have either been burnt out or just have been ill for a while?What is it about that approach that makes it so, so much better than what we do traditionally? Dr. Holly Donahue 30:09Well, first of all, the first thing that comes to my mind is that, I don’t believe the body, you can use one system and one drug at a time. Pharmaceuticals are indicated when they’re indicated. I have somebody that came in with incredibly high elevated cholesterol and hemoglobin A1C, was put on Wegovy and was put on a statin, for example.Those were indicated then and there. Wegovy, I don’t know, but it’s okay, we can work through it, right?But if we just leave that individual there, whether I do herbs or drugs, I’m never getting to the root cause of what’s happening. I’m never getting to, what is your relationship with your wife? Do you enjoy work? Do you… what do you do? How many times do my patients, I say to them, don’t focus on weight.Like, what do you do for joy? So this, to me, is the whole person. The person is just not the pancreas, the blood sugar, the cardiovascular system, and the lungs. Those are very important in the whole arterial system, or we won’t. Dr. Deb Muth 31:18Right. Dr. Holly Donahue 31:18But, like, even the movement, if I don’t talk about movement, like, I don’t know about you, but after, like, a podcast, or after I go live, I have to get up and walk around. We’re not meant to be. It’s not good for our backs, right? Dr. Deb Muth 31:32Hmm? Dr. Holly Donahue 31:33And then if we don’t use the whole body approach, like massage, and I do colon hydrotherapies at the clinic, and muscle stim, and ultrasound, and visceral management, and craniosacral, like, but the biggest thing that heals is removing the toxicity, like with saunas, you know?And it’s like… If I just focused on… One system, for example.And, for example, thyroid. How many women have Hashimoto’s thyroid? Like, they’re gonna be on thyroid medicine for the rest of their life. Is that truth? No! I have gone on thyroid and come off thyroid when I was really sick, right? The receptors aren’t connecting to what’s going on, because my receptors, they’re all mooky, right? Dr. Deb Muth 32:19Like… Dr. Holly Donahue 32:20I’m using non-medical terms so they understand. It’s like, all of this toxicity, it can’t get to it, right? Because there’s so much toxicity in the body. So if I just focus on not doing the whole person… then I’m not getting to the root cause, and what’s gonna happen, and this is in my mind, because I’ve been through it, I’m just gonna only heal a little bit, like I did when I was a teenager. with… if I’m just giving supplements, and I’m not doing the whole body approach, right? And if I’m not looking at the bone health of women as they age, as estrogen and progesterone and menopause. Dr. Deb Muth 32:56cousin. Dr. Holly Donahue 32:56and I’m not focusing on that, then long-term, I mean, I’ve had my patients for 25 plus years, long-term.we’re gonna end up with bone challenges, osteopenia, osteoporosis, right? Placking of the arteries, so if I just do one system.I’m not doing you service. Dr. Deb Muth 33:17Yeah, I love that. I love that. And that’s so true, because we don’t think about, necessarily think about 10 years from now, 15 years from now. Everyone’s focused on.what’s going on right now, let’s fix right now. But that person still has to live in their body, no matter what we do right now. We’ve got to get them past that and get them to a place where they can function 10, 15, 20 years from now. And that makes a huge difference, and like you were saying, the toxicity, I mean, the toxins that we’re exposed to today are so much worse than they were 25 years ago when you and I started this. And it was bad then, but now it’s really bad, and trying to get these things out of people so they don’t develop autoimmune disease, they don’t develop cancer, they don’t get neurological conditions like Alzheimer’s and dementia and Parkinson’s. It becomes harder and harder, and the sooner you do that, the better success you have without getting those things later on, when you do get older and your immune system falls a little bit. Dr. Holly Donahue 34:11Yeah, and we are probably, even though most of our research is done on men, and thank God we’re, you know, getting more and more research on women, like the cardiovascular disease in women and heart attack myocardial infarctions. you guys is very different in women, so please ask and find out, because there’s a lot of women that we’re losing in the ER because they’re trying to do the diagnosing of a male, and that’s coming out now. I can’t remember the doctor that’s done several podcasts on it. I think she’s out of Stanford, and it’s like, she’s starting to speak up, right? This isn’t a gender thing, but it is a gender thing, right? And it’s not saying, poor me because I wasn’t research, I’m saying, like, we are different beings. When I treat a male.His wiring, when I treat him, is very different the way I treat a female.Right? A female’s ready to make changes, they’ve had to be flexible, you know, and a man is just wired very differently. Until they have an emergency, are they gonna jump on and really do something? And I’m not talking every man, if you have men that watch this. Dr. Deb Muth 35:18I’m tired. Dr. Holly Donahue 35:18We’re talking the average person. The other thing that I briefly want to speak into is, like, we have so much research on drugs. Why don’t we have more research on herbs, which actually start the beginning of drugs, often, with the synthetics, right? I would love to see that. Dr. Deb Muth 35:36Yeah. Dr. Holly Donahue 35:37I see so much crap being taken out of our food, and not that we’re talking about different people, because I don’t want to talk about them online, though it’s out there if you want to find it, creating and putting chicken in vats and feeding it to you. So, I don’t know about you, but I’m never eating chicken at a restaurant, unless I know the farm where my chicken came from. Right. Like, this is real, you guys, like, they are doing genetically modified food.The other question that I have is America’s such a growing, knowledgeable country, why do we have 1.3 trillion diagnoses and chronic disease? Dr. Deb Muth 36:11Yeah. Dr. Holly Donahue 36:11And climbing. Yeah. That’s what brings tears to my eyes every time. Dr. Deb Muth 36:15What am I saying? Dr. Holly Donahue 36:16Say it. Dr. Deb Muth 36:16I agree, I agree, and I’m right there with you on the research of women. I just wrote a book called Seen It Last, and when I did the research to see how do we research women and men and how different it is, it’s ridiculous. We just assume women are smaller versions of men. Half the time, women are not even involved in a study. They’re not allowed because of our reproductive abilities, and they don’t want anybody in there at that point.Which I totally understand. You want to try to, you know, prevent having something happen to somebody if they didn’t know they were pregnant, but that totally excludes us from the research to say, you know, does lisinopril work the same way for men as it does for women? If we don’t have women in the study, we have no idea. And we’ve been dismissed so many times over the years, and it’s like thalidomide, right? Like, hello? And it’s the same type of thing over and over again, year after year for women, and it is not right. It’s what we’re dealing with, but if we don’t all start speaking up, it’s gonna continue to be our legacy. Dr. Holly Donahue 37:17Yes, and it’s also, like, if we… even for both genders, if we give a drug, like. that person should understand the drug. Like, I just had somebody been given a drug, they gave Losartan, and then they also got ritorvastatin. They’re like, I’m on a statin, I don’t want to be on a statin, and I’m like, that’s what you were just given. Dr. Deb Muth 37:39Yeah. Dr. Holly Donahue 37:39And I’m the one who didn’t prescribe it, and I’m not feeling bad for myself, but I’m the one that’s the bearer of the bad news to be like, have you looked at the risks and benefits? You probably need it right now, but then do you also know how difficult it is to come off, like, lisinopril or Losartan? Dr. Deb Muth 37:59Right. Dr. Holly Donahue 38:00Like, once your body gets used to a lot of those calcium channel blockers, those beta blockers, it’s a lot of rebound blood pressure that you’re gonna be dealing with. So, I feel like the medical world should share that with them, and say, hey, do you want to do lifestyle first? And how about go see a naturopath, or we have a functional medicine practitioner on our team, are you willing to do the work? Unless they’re gonna… unless they’re We’re in an acute situation. And they’re gonna have a myocardial infarction, or congestive heart failure, you know, which, don’t get me started on that diagnosis, like. Radiologists are like, congestive heart failure is… the wrong diagnosis in so many cases. All that means, you guys, is that your heart isn’t pumping the way that it should be. Why can’t we have different levels? And cardiologists will say the same thing, it’s an awful term. Dr. Deb Muth 38:55It is. We have cardiologists… we text a lot of D-dimers post. Dr. Holly Donahue 39:00Oh, night. Dr. Deb Muth 39:01post the you-know-what, and we have some of them that come back, almost all of them come back high, but some come back really high, like 5 or 6, and we send them to cardiology for a workup, and the cardiologists are like, we don’t care, it’s not high enough for us to do anything with. And I’m like…It’s five! Are you kidding me? It’s supposed to be less than 1, and we’re not concerned about it? And they’re like, no, we’re not concerned about it. And I’m like, until the person has a stroke, or a heart attack, or has something happen, they’re not doing anything about this stuff.And as naturopaths, you and I look at this and go, wait a minute, there’s something happening in the body. We need to fix this before we have a big event that occurs. But nobody is looking at that. They don’t care anymore. Dr. Holly Donahue 39:44Hmm. Dr. Deb Muth 39:46Frustrating. Dr. Holly Donahue 39:46so exhaust, you know, I’m not making excuses for them, but, you know, my dad had an amazing primary care physician, and now he stepped out of, being in the medical system, you know? And he went off, and he’s doing, concierge primary care, direct primary care with another female doctor, and I think that was the best thing, because when my dad passed away, how many doctors call your family and wanted to show up for the funeral, and then said to my mom, your daughter, just meaning me, because I happen to. Dr. Deb Muth 40:25Have a mess. Dr. Holly Donahue 40:25medical license. Of course, my other sisters were amazing love and care and. Dr. Deb Muth 40:29Yeah. Dr. Holly Donahue 40:29But from a medical perspective, he’d be like, ask… you know, ask her, what can she give him for, like, decreased motility and for constipation? He passed at 91… at 92, you know what I mean? And his body was shutting down, but he had a desire to live. But he also said, like, if it wasn’t for all those supplements and the food that you fed him, and the love that you gave him, he wouldn’t have lived as long as he did, and he might have had a cardiac event. and not just died at home with his lung… I mean, his lungs were… he only had a third of his lung on his left side that was still functioning. That’s not the point. The point is, is when you ask me, why do I do whole body medicine? He had wished he had listened to me years ago about his diabetes, but he was too busy… he was too busy building. Dr. Deb Muth 41:19building a. Dr. Holly Donahue 41:20Business Entrepreneurs, like we just covered. Dr. Deb Muth 41:22Yeah. Dr. Holly Donahue 41:22He was too busy making income for his family, and he couldn’t stop, because he had a commitment to be successful in business, and boy, was he. But at what toll did that take him? We never saw him when we were children. We… he knew we loved her, you know what I mean? Right. But there’s a price that you pay exchanging your health for time and your job that you don’t spend time with loved ones, and that’s why I do lifestyle medicine. Dr. Deb Muth 41:52Yeah, and that makes… that is so true. I mean, I think that statement is so powerful, because it’s easy for all of us to get busy and get tied up in chasing the dollar and chasing what we want to be known for. And just go, go, go, go, go. But just putting it into that simple framework. That, yes, you can chase that, but you’re giving up these things on the other side, and this is what your life may look like when you are retired, makes a huge difference, because you’ve lost out on so much of that life then, as a result. Yeah. Dr. Holly Donahue 42:27Yeah, and then when he got to the point where he was doing really well, he’s like, let’s all go on vacation, let’s… and we’re like, honey, we have jobs. Dr. Deb Muth 42:34Yeah, can’t do it now. Dr. Holly Donahue 42:36You know? Like, we have to, like, make the time, and then let’s do it, you know what I mean? Dr. Deb Muth 42:40Yeah. Dr. Holly Donahue 42:41You can’t just, like, up and be like, okay, we’re outta here, like. Dr. Deb Muth 42:43Yeah. Dr. Holly Donahue 42:44Since we gotta go now, you know. Dr. Deb Muth 42:45Yeah, right? We think that someday when we have money, it’s like that, but it isn’t like that, unfortunately.Well, this has been such a great conversation. I have one last question for you. It’s the question that we ask everyone. If you had an opportunity to sit down with the changemakers in this country for healthcare, what would be the number one thing you would ask them to change? Dr. Holly Donahue 43:09The nutrition and how we grow it, and, you know, the toxicity, and the pesticides that are being sprayed, and all the farmers that are really being put out of business, because bigger, faster, you know, we werewe would feed more people by doing this. We have people that are starving every single day, and I… and I just think, like, if we were healthier on that movement, then we would have a healthier culture. And, you know. Everything would flow so much easier. Dr. Deb Muth 43:43Yeah, I agree. I think that’s where it has to start, really. Like, we can talk about all these other things that we could change, and yes, it makes great things and great sense, but the foundation has to be solid so people stop getting a lot of these diseases because they’re nutrient deficient and they’re full of toxins and everything else.That’s how we truly change the world of health and wellness, is nutrition out of the gate. Dr. Holly Donahue 44:07Yes, and, you know, with that being connected, I also wish that we could tell people, just because they have this label and diagnosis, that they can heal. as long as they get the foundation and the lifestyle pieces that you and I covered with the nutrition, which goes back to my answer, you don’t have to carry a label and a diagnosis the rest of your life. Dr. Deb Muth 44:35Yeah. Dr. Holly Donahue 44:36you have to ask yourself, how did I allow this in my body? How did it come in? And then work with practitioners to remove it. Dr. Deb Muth 44:44Yeah, that’s often.So… Dr. Hawley, how can people find you? And you have a big event coming up, so… Dr. Holly Donahue 44:51Cheers, man. Dr. Deb Muth 44:51information about that with our listeners. Dr. Holly Donahue 44:53Thank you so much. So, you can, you can actually find me on, Instagram at Dr. HollyDonoghuend and Facebook, so I’m in both of those, you know, both of those arenas all the time, my team, we’re out posting. And I also, thank you for asking, I also am doing a, summit, where I bring on speakers, which we love to have you sometime, where I bring on speakers, and it’s my give back. And we are hosting a 5-day summit, one day live on the 20th through the 24th, and it’s all about hormones. And we’re saying, like, we’re bringing on these medical detectives as practitioners that are speaking into how your vitality, you know, your hormones are disrupted. from all the pieces that you’re doing, whether it’s blood sugar, whether it’s your actual hormones, your hunger hormones, and how to actually solve that problem and have the energy and the desire to actually heal yourself. So we’re going to walk everybody on a journey on different arenas that will talk about, really the truth that doctors aren’t talking about, because they don’t share this information. They’re always constantly putting outAnd then with that, when we’re going to step into a metabolism reset challenge right after the summit, it’s a 5-day challenge that will go even deeper. And my goal is there’s a lot of people on GLP-1s, Ozempic, Wegovy, Moderna, and all of that, and they really don’t know, A, why they’re on it, they think they’re on it for weight loss, which could be true, but it does have really good benefits that weWe do see.But do you really have to be it on the rest of your life, right? Or if you’re not on it, and you really want to learn how to balance your metabolism, I’m gonna walk you through 5 days of teaching you all the pieces of the puzzle that I taught about today in a much deeper way, so that at the end of the actual challenge, you’ll have tools that you can actually make changes for yourself. Dr. Deb Muth 46:57Oh, that’s awesome. I love that idea. That is a great thing, because people need to learn that. And we do a lot of GLP-1 support, too, but the big, big question that everybody has is, do I have to be on this forever? And the answer is no, as long as you’re using it as a toolto make the changes that you need to change your metabolism, then you don’t need this forever. But if you’re not making the lifestyle changes, then yes, then you’re going to have to be on it forever, because you haven’t done the work to change it in the first place. So, that sounds awesome. Thank you. Dr. Holly Donahue 47:27Yeah, you’re welcome. Dr. Deb Muth 47:29Anything else you want to share with our listeners? Dr. Holly Donahue 47:31No, I just, you know, I don’t say no, but what I would love everybody to hear is, like.Natural medicine, and what Dr. Deb and I do, it’s not a magic bullet, but it… all the efforts that you put in to change your life and adjust your nutrition and change your habits, like I talked about in the very beginning, it becomes a ripple effect, and the more people that you bring on board to follow you on natural wellness and healing.you’re gonna hear comments like, what are you doing? You know what I mean? Your life is better, your sex life is better, your energy is better, your relationships are better, work is easier, there’s more joy in your life. And who doesn’t want to have all that? And it just is putting those pieces together, but you can have that as well. Like, anti-aging is all over the place, and biohackingBut what if we just go back to the basics so you learn how to become your own doctor and, like, what you need and can advocate for yourself? That’s my goal long-term. Dr. Deb Muth 48:36I love that, and that is so true. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for joining me. Dr. Holly Donahue 48:41Thank you so much for having me, I really appreciate it. Dr. Deb Muth 48:47Thank you for joining me today on Let’s Talk Wellness Now. If this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who could benefit from learning the truth about root cause healing and whole body wellness. A huge thank you to Dr. Holly Donahue for sharing her wisdom with us today, and her clinical expertise. If you want to learn more.About her, or explore how naturopathic medicine can help you heal from burnout, fatigue, hormonal imbalance, or chronic illness. Visit simplehealthnh.com.Or you can reach out to Dr. Donahue directly at DrDonahue at SimpleHealthNH.com. We will have those links for you below in the show notes as well. And remember, wellness isn’t just about feeling good. It’s about thriving in every area of your life.If you’re ready to explore how root cause medicine can help you break free from the symptom chasing, cycle, and build real sustainable health.Visit Serenityhealthcarecenter.com. And remember, no supplement, no hormone, no protocol can overcome ongoing toxin exposure, chronic stress, poor nutrition, gut dysfunction, and inadequate sleep.True healing requires your active participation. You have to be willing to address the root causes and change the lifestyle factors that disrupted your health in the first place.Root cause healing amplifies your body’s natural healing capacity, but you have to create the internal environment where healing can actually happen.Until next time, I’m Dr. Deb, reminding you to take care of your body, mind, and spirit. Be well, and I’ll see you on the next episode.The post Episode 261 – Root-Cause Healing and Whole-Body Wellness first appeared on Let's Talk Wellness Now.

To conclude Season 7, Jill sits down with a spiritual mother, Debb Webb — a Kingdom teacher whose journey has moved from leading a traditional church to cultivating Spirit-led, home-based Kingdom communities as part of the Legacy Conversation series.  This episode draws from a deep well of wisdom. It's the kind of conversation that may feel like drinking from a fire hydrant — dense, layered, and overflowing with revelation. Together, Jill and Debb explore themes that range wide and deep: -The meaning behind the title "Son of Man" and key Hebrew words that reveal God's heart -The original human mandate and how it shapes our purpose today -How to discern the Spirit of God in community -The nature of revelation and prophecy -What it means to live in faithful obedience to the Father's will This is a rich, Spirit-filled conversation for those hungry to understand the Kingdom more deeply — an invitation to listen slowly, reflect prayerfully, and let wisdom take root. The advent guide referenced in the intro can be found on The Hills website - www.thehills/christmas - and on The Hills App under Daily Habits, Guided Reflection.  Reach out to us at nextgennow@thehills.org and find more information about The Hills Church at www.thehills.org.

The information in this podcast does not provide medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. It should not be used as a substitution for health care from a licensed healthcare professional. Consult with your healthcare provider for individualized treatment or before beginning any new program.  Living with a chronic condition takes more than willpower—it requires resilience, support, and access to the right programs. In this episode, we explore how people in Wisconsin are building that resilience while managing health challenges like prediabetes. We will highlight the state's Diabetes Prevention Program (DPP), a proven lifestyle change program that helps people live healthier, longer lives. We will hear from Pam Geis with the Wisconsin Department of Health Service, Division of Public Health, who coordinates Wisconsin's Diabetes Prevention Program, and Debb, who has lived the experience, and is a Diabetes Prevention Program graduate. Together, they will share the tools, mindsets, and community connections that foster long-term health and resilience. Resources Discussed During Interview:https://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/prediabetes/index.htm https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes-prevention/index.html  WebMD Coaching and DPP Program, call 1-800-821-6591 or visit www.webmdhealth.com/wellwisconsin

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Hosts Vincent Fernandez and Pastor Robert Baltodano Question Timestamps: Daniel, NJ (3:31) - Is Moses grandson the high priest in Judges 18? Doesn't that mean it should be earlier in the book of Judges? Dave, NY (7:46) - If a third of the angels were cast down from heaven with Lucifer, does that mean they were able to make choices?  Ella, IL (11:47) - Who are the “cloud of witnesses” in Hebrews 12? Ed, NJ (14:10) - Is the Jehovah's Witness faith Christian oriented? Jesse, HI (21:40) - Why did God blind Saul's eyes on the road to Damascus? Jack, TX (25:49, continued after break at 33:31) - How should I handle my Mormon neighbor? Jerry, GA (40:06) - My friend believes that he is going to hell because he was told he blasphemed the Holy Spirit when he was a kid, what can I tell him? Adrian, VA (43:16) - Why was God not happy with what Cain brought forth to sacrifice in Genesis 4? Ervin, LA (46:16) - Why are Islam and Judaism demonized so much? Debb, VA (53:10) - What should I do when I sin and feel like I've hurt God? Ask Your Questions: 888-712-7434 Answers@bbtlive.org

UNCOVERED: What's Really Happening with the 2025 Los Angeles Fires?Uncover the shocking truth behind the devastating Los Angeles wildfires in this eye-opening episode of Dare to Dream.Host Debbi Dachinger welcomes channel Melanie Aquirre, who connects with a tall white extraterrestrial entity to reveal disturbing insights about the fires ravaging Southern California. Delve into the possibility of pre-planned destruction and greed as underlying factors in this catastrophe. The episode explores controversial evidence, including alleged footage of laser beams igniting the Pacific Palisades fire.Debbi shares a heart-wrenching personal encounter at the airport, highlighting the raw emotions and immense loss experienced by fire victims. This poignant moment underscores the human toll of the disaster that has left over 200,000 people displaced and claimed at least 25 lives. (See story below)Join us as we examine the inexplicable January timing of these fires, challenge official narratives, and consider the implications of potential extraterrestrial involvement. It's time to question the status quo and demand answers. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that will challenge your perspective on this unprecedented crisis.PERSONAL STORY:Today while in the airport I,(Debb)i was waiting for my plane when I heard loud voices in the airport. I saw a crowd gathered around a woman yelling at airport employees. I do not know what precipitated the altercation, and it doesn't matter. Towards the end the woman was screaming “My house burned down. My dog died. 52 years.  I lost everything. Everything!”And then she lost it, she burst into sobbing tears. I started crying, watching her overwhelming grief; I could not even imagine but could feel.The employees took good care of her, then she turned around while weeping and said to the workers and everyone in the airport “I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.” There was nothing for her to be sorry about. Her pain was so raw and real. She is coping the best she can.To lose everything in one flash.  This is what is happening here.#spiritual #paranormal #channeling #metaphysical #transformation #psychic #LAFires #MelanieAguirre #WildfireImpact #CaliforniaWildfires #ClimateChange #FireSafety #EnvironmentalInsights #ShamanicHealing #CoachingPrograms #DebbiDachinger #WildfireRecovery #AirQuality #CommunityResilience #FirePrevention #mentalhealthawarenessBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/dare-to-dream-with-debbi-dachinger--1980925/support.

UNCOVERED: What's Really Happening with the 2025 Los Angeles Fires? Uncover the shocking truth behind the devastating Los Angeles wildfires in this eye-opening episode of Dare to Dream. Host Debbi Dachinger welcomes channel Melanie Aquirre, who connects with a tall white extraterrestrial entity to reveal disturbing insights about the fires ravaging Southern California.   Delve into the possibility of pre-planned destruction and greed as underlying factors in this catastrophe. The episode explores controversial evidence, including alleged footage of laser beams igniting the Pacific Palisades fire.   Debbi shares a heart-wrenching personal encounter at the airport, highlighting the raw emotions and immense loss experienced by fire victims. This poignant moment underscores the human toll of the disaster that has left over 200,000 people displaced and claimed at least 25 lives. (See story below)   Join us as we examine the inexplicable January timing of these fires, challenge official narratives, and consider the implications of potential extraterrestrial involvement. It's time to question the status quo and demand answers. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that will challenge your perspective on this unprecedented crisis.   PERSONAL STORY: Today while in the airport I,(Debb)i was waiting for my plane when I heard loud voices in the airport. I saw a crowd gathered around a woman yelling at airport employees. I do not know what precipitated the altercation, and it doesn't matter. Towards the end the woman was screaming “My house burned down. My dog died. 52 years.  I lost everything. Everything!” And then she lost it, she burst into sobbing tears. I started crying, watching her overwhelming grief; I could not even imagine but could feel. The employees took good care of her, then she turned around while weeping and said to the workers and everyone in the airport “I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.” There was nothing for her to be sorry about. Her pain was so raw and real. She is coping the best she can. To lose everything in one flash.  This is what is happening here.

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Send us a textHave you ever wondered why some manifestation techniques work sometimes and not others? In today's episode, we're diving into the most important thing to understand about manifestation so you can break free from the manifestation hamster wheel and unlock the keys to co-create your dream life.Discover how my daughter, Alethea Harnish, award-winning Off-Broadway playwright and actress and the first person from her high school to go to an Ivy League, manifests dream opportunities the first time, in record time, and effortlessly brings her wildest dreams to life by ditching traditional manifestation techniques. Alethea's unique approach to manifestation has been a game-changer in my life, helping me craft my superstar sales persona and overcome my fears as a single mom turned entrepreneur. Together, we redefine what true manifestation means beyond rituals and material desires and focus on the deeper emotional connections that drive us toward genuine fulfillment.In this episode, you'll hear about:(9:48) The argument about manifesting a swimming pool that completely changed how I view manifestation.(11:32) Why it's crucial to manifest opportunities that align with your calling instead of just focusing on the material things.(19:30) What your dharma (calling) has to do with abundance.(28:10) How to get off the hamster wheel of manifestation once and for all.During our heartfelt conversation, we dissect the difference between chasing tangible dreams and understanding the emotions that truly satisfy us. This episode invites you to harness your creative energy, align with your true path, and embrace the abundance that naturally follows when you let your dreams soar.Join us as we explore the power of dreaming bigger, acting with faith, and allowing life's serendipitous nature to unfold. About today's guest: Alethea Harnish is a theatre practitioner from Indianapolis, Ind. currently living in Paris, France.Her one-woman show, Phantasmagoria, premiered off-Broadway in the Downtown Urban Arts Festival in 2022, and her new play, This is Your Computer on Drugs, premiered at Columbia University in 2023 alongside the course she co-taught with Prof. Mark C. Taylor titled Hippie Physics, Counterculture, Cyberculture.To learn more or hire Alethea visit: www.aletheaharnish.comSubscribe to her substack: https://aletheaharnish.substack.com/Or email her directly at aletheaharnish@gmail.comThank you for tuning in to this episode of The Mystery School of Manifestation. If you want to learn more about manifestation, sales or Debb's journey, please visit DebbCobb.com And if you're a service-based entrepreneur, coach, consultant or high-ticket closer, don't forget to book your Free 20-Minute Spiritual Sales Audit.

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There's still time! The Big Bear Yoga Festival is fast approaching and a great way to dive into fall. Community is created by spending time together in welcoming environments and October 5th & 6th will not disappoint! This family friendly event has something for everyone, even if you don't consider yourself a yogi!   Deb Sanders mixes dance and yoga which is something Callie absolutely loves to do! She creates community through movement and will be offering a yoga-dance class where she will lead you through a yoga sequence that will allow you to add your own flow. Follow her guidance or dive deeper into your own free experience of enjoying movement.    Can't make it to the festival, but want to get to know Deb more? She has classes online for those of you who like to get a workout in before you start your day. Pricing info and contact information is below:   Zoom barre classes are Tuesday and Thursday at 6am. Those interested can contact Debb on IG or Facebook. Cost is $10 per class or $50 a month.   IG: @dancingdebb   FB: Debbie Vilarroig-Sanders   Keep up with what Callie is doing in life and business by joining the facebook group Shaping a Life You Love, a friendly community where you can share your successes and receive coaching and encouragement, or follow on Instagram @jojos.dance. Let's get moving. Your dreams are just a few steps ahead of you. 

Janey welcomes Debb Cozzi back on the podcast to explore fall seed starting tips! Together, they discuss how to shift from starting annuals to perennials, with Debb sharing valuable insights on everything from understanding plant lifecycles to clever tips like using wet coffee filters and vermiculite on all her seeds. She'll also share some of her successes, failures, and lessons learned as one very skilled seed starter.Be sure to tune into the next episode for Part Two, where they'll dive into the best seed-starting tips!Debb is a self-taught gardener who tends a two-acre property in rural San Diego County, Zone 9B. As Debb says, “The garden is a great teacher who whispers wisdom. My goal is to provide a place where you find beauty, encouragement, and friendship centered on the shared delight of gardening.”Check out Janey's tour of Debb's amazing propertySwallowtail Seed Company (Debb's favorite seed supplier!)For more from Debb, check out her instagram @acozzigarden.  Love what you're hearing?Make sure to check out more from Janey:StoreFacebookInstagramYouTubeDig, Plant, Water, Repeat is produced in association with Caloroga Shark Media. Hear other shows from Caloroga Shark along with subscription info and Merch with free shipping here!

In this episode, Janey welcomes Debb Cozzi from Debb's Garden! It's time to get ready for all things fall, including fall seed starting. Debb, who lives on a two-acre property, turned to seed starting to transform her large space. Janey and Debb discuss what sparked Debb's interest in seed starting and the best ways to begin your own seed-starting journey.Be sure to tune into the next episode for Part Two, where they'll dive into the best seed-starting tips!Debb is a self-taught gardener who tends a two-acre property in rural San Diego County, Zone 9B. As Debb says, “The garden is a great teacher who whispers wisdom. My goal is to provide a place where you find beauty, encouragement, and friendship centered on the shared delight of gardening.”Check out Janey's tour of Debb's amazing propertySwallowtail Seed Company (Debb's favorite seed supplier!)For more from Debb, check out her instagram @acozzigarden.  Love what you're hearing?Make sure to check out more from Janey:StoreFacebookInstagramYouTubeDig, Plant, Water, Repeat is produced in association with Caloroga Shark Media. Hear other shows from Caloroga Shark along with subscription info and Merch with free shipping here!

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Send us a Text Message.Ever wondered why traditional manifestation techniques sometimes hit a wall? Join me, Debb Cobb, as I unravel my journey from a struggling single mom to a thriving online entrepreneur, with a deep dive into shadow work. By confronting the darker aspects of our psyche, we can bring unconscious fears and insecurities to light and overcome them. This episode promises to guide you through the transformative "dark night of the soul" and help you align with your true self for a more fulfilling life.We go beyond the typical manifestation advice, exploring how merely controlling thoughts isn't the ultimate key. Instead, by recognizing that we are the observers of our thoughts and emotions, we can embody love, abundance, and peace, naturally attracting these qualities into our lives. Drawing wisdom from the Bible and insights from thought leaders like Deepak Chopra and Michael Singer, we emphasize awakening to your true animating energy rather than getting caught up in superficial techniques.True abundance isn't about material wealth but about consciousness and self-worth. Sharing my personal experiences, I highlight the dangers of manifesting from a place of ego and attachment, which often leads to perpetual dissatisfaction. By embodying positive qualities and letting go of societal expectations, you can manifest a life of genuine abundance and freedom. Join me as we reinterpret age-old stories like Adam and Eve to uncover deeper truths about consciousness and self-awareness.To chat with Debb about your business/sales book a Free 20 Spiritual Sales Alignment Audit here: https://debbcobb.com/call/To connect with Debb in her Free Facebook group, The Spiritual Sales Collective: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thespiritualartofsalesTo book an hour of Debb's time to get her eyes on anything sales or offer related including your sales scripts, objection handling or sales copy (this is a PAID call): https://calendly.com/debbcobbsalessession/implementation-callThank you for tuning in to this episode of The Mystery School of Manifestation. If you want to learn more about manifestation, sales or Debb's journey, please visit DebbCobb.com and sign up for the waiting list. More to come on The Mystery School of Manifestation soon!

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Have you ever felt the pull of something greater guiding your decisions, whispering paths to success that defy all conventional logic? Join me, Debb Cobb, as we venture into the realm where intuition and manifestation intertwine, revealing a world where following your spirit can lead to entrepreneurial triumph. In this episode, I bare my soul, sharing the raw and rebellious journey from high school dropout to the pinnacle of success in my industry, without ever playing by the rules.Prepare to have your perceptions of reality expanded as we discuss the mysterious links between consciousness, intuition, and the manifestation of our deepest desires. I'll take you through historical misconceptions about our senses, illustrating how tapping into the non-physical can be as real and natural as the discovery of radio waves. We'll explore personal stories and insights that illuminate my path to creating the Mystery School of Manifestation and other ventures that defied conventional wisdom, proving that the extraordinary often demands an extraordinary approach.As we wrap up, allow yourself to be inspired by the courage it takes to listen to your inner voice, and the incredible outcomes that can follow. I'll share my leap of faith into a marketing career, guided not by traditional qualifications but by unmistakable spiritual signs. And for those ready to forge their own path, I extend an exclusive invitation to my Anti-Launch Launch Workshop, where we'll craft a blueprint for success that shuns the typical playbook in favor of a more personal, spiritually-aligned strategy. Tune in and embark on a transformational journey that could redefine the way you see success, purpose, and fulfillment.Thank you for tuning in to this episode of The Mystery School of Manifestation. If you want to learn more about manifestation, sales or Debb's journey, please visit DebbCobb.com and sign up for the waiting list. More to come on The Mystery School of Manifestation soon!

Anyone who's making 7 different types of chocolate gelato deserves our attention. Debb Makin is a chocolate lover, craftsperson, educator and determined small business owner at Ratio Cocoa Roasters, expanding ideas of how to appreciate and enjoy chocolate. Along the way, she's also empowering consumers: once people understand the issues embedded in this complicated and often opaque international industry, they are also able to be part of a swing towards ethical consumption and clear-eyed enjoyment. https://ratiococoa.com.au/ Follow The Producers on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/producerspodcast/ Host Dani Valent  https://www.instagram.com/danivalent Host Anthony Huckstep https://www.instagram.com/huckstergram/ Executive Producer Rob Locke https://www.instagram.com/foodwinedine/ LISTEN TO OUR OTHER FOOD PODCASTS https://linktr.ee/DeepintheWeedsNetwork The Producers is a food podcast telling the stories of producers, farmers, growers and makers.. A Deep in the Weeds Production An Australian Food Podcast from the Deep in the Weeds Network.

Anyone who's making 7 different types of chocolate gelato deserves our attention. Debb Makin is a chocolate lover, craftsperson, educator and determined small business owner at Ratio Cocoa Roasters, expanding ideas of how to appreciate and enjoy chocolate. Along the way, she's also empowering consumers: once people understand the issues embedded in this complicated and often opaque international industry, they are also able to be part of a swing towards ethical consumption and clear-eyed enjoyment. https://ratiococoa.com.au/ Follow The Producers on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/producerspodcast/ Host Dani Valent  https://www.instagram.com/danivalent Host Anthony Huckstep https://www.instagram.com/huckstergram/ Executive Producer Rob Locke https://www.instagram.com/foodwinedine/ LISTEN TO OUR OTHER FOOD PODCASTS https://linktr.ee/DeepintheWeedsNetwork The Producers is a food podcast telling the stories of producers, farmers, growers and makers.. A Deep in the Weeds Production An Australian Food Podcast from the Deep in the Weeds Network.

Have you ever felt like upending expectations was the only way to truly soar? Join me, Debb Cobb, as I recount my personal leap from a once single teen mother facing the grind to a flourishing online entrepreneur in the latest Mystery School of Manifestation podcast episode. I'll peel back the curtain on my life's unexpected turns, revealing the counterintuitive secrets to manifesting dreams that defy the norm. You'll also get a taste of my daughter Alethea's remarkable journey from a small town to the bright lights of an Ivy League school and the Off-Broadway stage.This episode isn't just about my transformation; it's a window into the sacrifices made for the love of family and the pursuit of work-life harmony. I'll share the story of how I traded long hours in retail management for the unknown world of high-ticket sales, all while nurturing Alethea's ambitions. You'll feel each pivot and hurdle we faced, the tough decisions at each turn, and the hope that kept us moving forward. It's a narrative that intertwines a mother's resilience with the relentless quest for a life filled with joy and purpose.As we wrap up, I'll reflect on the serendipitous moments that can redefine our path. Imagine sitting on a beach, contemplating your next move, and then receiving a life-altering call—yep, it happened to me, and it led to an incredible chapter with Deepak Chopra's sales team. This episode invites you to trust your gut, embrace the unexpected, and consider how synchronicity might just be the universe nudging you towards your destiny. Tune in for a story where intuition isn't just a whisper; it's a roar that echoes into every corner of your life.Thank you for tuning in to this episode of The Mystery School of Manifestation. If you want to learn more about manifestation, sales or Debb's journey, please visit DebbCobb.com and sign up for the waiting list. More to come on The Mystery School of Manifestation soon!

Embark on a journey of transformation and discover the spellbinding art of manifestation with your host, Debb Cobb. This episode unveils my transformative evolution from a struggling single mother to a thriving online entrepreneur who shattered the conventional mold to craft a path to prosperity. You'll hear the raw, unfiltered account of my near-fatal brush with death at 16 and the miraculous recovery that propelled me to unearth my true purpose. My narrative is not just my own—it's a prelude to the powerful lessons and spiritual insights that I'm eager to share with you.As we traverse the mystical bridge between the physical and metaphysical, I recount the spiritual principles and serendipitous events that launched my life and coaching business into the stratosphere, including the day Deepak Chopra's coaching sales team became my first client. This episode is more than just a story; it's an invitation to wield the spiritual art of sales, blending ancient wisdom with modern tactics for stunning outcomes. So gather your courage, grab your journal, and prepare to redefine the boundaries of possibility as we co-create your personalized Heaven on Earth.Thank you for tuning in to this episode of The Mystery School of Manifestation. If you want to learn more about manifestation, sales or Debb's journey, please visit DebbCobb.com and sign up for the waiting list. More to come on The Mystery School of Manifestation soon!

Join host Kevin Minor and Debb Atnip, Manager of Education, Capture and Growth, CDW Government, as they discuss building relationships with procurement officials, navigating government attorney engagements, and staying informed about procurement process changes. *All 2023 NASPO Exchange suppliers received an invitation to schedule an interview on a first come, first serve basis for potential inclusion in the series. Follow & subscribe to stay up-to-date on NASPO!naspo.org | Pulse Blog | LinkedIn | Youtube | Facebook

E15 | Your Presence Is Your Purpose with Debb Latwat: The Follow-up In this follow-up episode, Debb shares how she's shifted her perspective, embraced a new attitude, and found joy in life's everyday moments. She's discovering that she's already doing enough just by being present and intentional with her actions. Through the use of little experiments, her outlook on her effectiveness as a human being at work and at home has changed. She's realizing that joy and fulfillment are attainable without the need for external validation. How does Debb's journey compare to yours? What are you willing to let go of to feel purposeful and fulfilled? Show Notes & Transcript ⏭️ Listen to E2 | Your Presence Is Your Purpose with Debb Latwat Register for Group Coaching! Learn More & Sign Up! We Want Your Feedback! Ask a question on Wisdom and receive a Voice reply! Rate & Follow on Spotify Leave a Comment or Start a Discussion on Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, or in The Change Evolutionist Community Never Miss an Episode! Get notification to your inbox when a new episode is released. Download to your device or listen on Spotify, Apple, or Google podcasts. Get Notified of New Episodes Tell Your Story as a Guest on the Podcast! Apply Now

It seems like everyone is in a race to cross the finish line first. But what if you allowed yourself to take smaller steps to achieve your goals? In a conversation with Debb Lins, we explore that question. A retired educator and now a licensed child and family therapist, she significantly impacted her community by inspiring others to take small steps toward achieving their goals. In early 2023, Debb embarked on her own journey and started a podcast. She quickly found the strength to challenge herself and the beauty in taking risks. But would she convince her guests and audience to do the same? Here's why Debb started a podcast and hopes to inspire others to go on a journey of self-discovery and transformation.Ready for more inspiration? Listen to Debb's new podcast, Opening Doors. Check out her child and family therapy practice at openingdoors2gether.com.

Everyone has goals, dreams, and ambitions. But some of us have to take the scenic route until we're finally ready to do the thing. In this celebration interview, I talked with Debb Lins— Licensed Professional Counselor—to discover how the Do The Thing Dating Dare Challenge profoundly affected her life. As an introvert, stepping out of her comfort zone wasn't easy. But thanks to the challenge and dares, Debb gained the courage to say yes to what brings her joy—healing old wounds and doing all the things she didn't realize she could. Here's how the Do The Thing Dating Dare Challenge drove Debb to start conversations with local veterans and lead an empowerment workshop for women. Want to learn more about Debb? Connect with her at openingdoors2gether.com. 

Join Stacey Lauren, Debb Lins, and Dr. Nancy De Andrade for a transformative vision casting workshop Saturday April 15. This is open to the members of the Do The Thing Singles community.. Whether you're looking to meet a future partner or release past patterns and beliefs that are no longer serving you, this workshop is designed to help you open your heart and create a clear vision for the future. Through guided exercises and expert advice, you'll gain the tools and perspective needed to attract the right partner and create a fulfilling relationship. Don't miss out on this opportunity to transform your love life and manifest your deepest desires. https://www.facebook.com/groups/dothethingsingles/ 

E2 | Your Presence Is Your Purpose with Debb Latwat This week we had the opportunity to speak to Debb, who feels a little lost. She longs for purpose and meaning, mostly in her work, but no matter what she does, something is still missing. Sound familiar? She wonders why she's here, what she's meant to do, and why nothing seems to light her up the way it used to. Feeling trapped in a routine she doesn't love and wrestling with her own overwhelming expectations of what she should be doing with her life, she overlooks the treasure nestled deep within her - the gift of her presence. Many of us struggle to see the value in the gifts that come so naturally to us. They are the things we do effortlessly and with grace, winning the respect and admiration of others, often without ever knowing it. We assume what comes so naturally to us comes just as easily to others. But it doesn't. Who you are and the way you show up impacts people, but first, it impacts you. What stories are you telling yourself about who you are? Are those stories true? In this episode, I have a unique perspective because Debb is a friend of mine. I know that everywhere she goes, she shines bright. She seems unaware of this when I first mention it but then begins to see that she's overcomplicating things. She doesn't need to change the world with some life-altering invention or as a famous photographer for National Geographic. She's already making waves, changing lives, and leaving her mark, just by being Debb. Debb's story is your story, and your impact is just as magnificent as hers. As you listen, I hope you're able to see yourself through the eyes of the people you touch every day. You have immense power to change your life and impact others - simply with your presence. Full Show Notes ⏭️ Listen to E15 | Your Presence Is Your Purpose with Debb Latwat: The Follow-up The episode at a glance... [1:10] Debb talks about her struggle to find purpose after the pandemic forced her out of a job she had held for decades, a job that had become part of her identity. She finds herself wondering, "What am I meant to do? What lasting legacy can I leave for the world?" [3:45] Ron explores what things Debb does right now that she finds fulfilling and meaningful. She talks about the frustration of not having enough time to do all the things that bring her joy and the discovery that, even with more time, something is still missing. [5:00] Ron asks Debb about her dreams as a child. What did she want to do with her life? [7:00] Debb talks about missing the adventurous person she used to be. [8:20] Ron suggests experimenting by trying something she would consider adventurous to find out if it's as enjoyable as it used to be. [9:30] Debb talks about feeling stuck in everyday routines, which makes her feel unhappy, unmotivated, and depressed. [10:28] Ron suggests trying different things to find out what ignites her. What are her passions? [11:50] Ron talks about the difference between listening to your head and listening to your heart. Dreaming without limits to reconnect with your purpose. [13:50] Ron suggests assessing what you're already good at and how to use those skills to do something you're passionate about. "Let your heart talk to you about your dreams instead of your head talking to you about your limitations." [14:55] Debb talks about past jobs that she felt really passionate about and what specifically she loved about them. [16:15] Ron suggests that we are attracted to things that align with our purpose. This is why it's so important to explore your passions and not allow your head to dismiss your dreams. [17:05] Janelle asks if Debb's lack of fulfillment is related to a job or does it go deeper than that. [18:53] Ron talks about Flow Theory, being in the zone. This is when you reach the intersection of your abilities and the difficulty of the task. [20:00] Debb talks about losing all sense of time and space in her garden, but otherwise, she feels discouraged that she doesn't have a "thing" that she can get totally consumed by. [21:35] Ron talks about the creative and visionary process that is so important for realizing and following your dreams. "Your mind doesn't think in words, it thinks in pictures." [21:52] Ron talks about the power of vision boards to lay out the specifics of your dreams. If you can't visualize it, you won't take action. The creative process: You see something that you want to create and are in the process of creating it. If you can't see it, it's not likely to happen. "When you dream it, even if it seems impossible, things start to happen to bring the dream to fruition." [25:50] Just as important as what you want to see is what you're currently seeing. Are you seeing yourself complacent? Whatever you're visualizing is what you'll continue to create. Change the picture! [26:50] Janelle asks Debb what she's hoping to accomplish in order to feel enough. Debb talks about wanting to change the world in a noticeable way. [29:05] Janelle talks about the difference between measurable and tangible things we can present to the world as our contribution versus the gift of our presence. We don't always know our impact, and maybe we aren't supposed to. Janelle talks about the presence Debb brings into everything she does: Debb shows up as Debb, and that is her purpose. [31:30] Janelle asks Ron if finding purpose in multiple things is possible rather than in just one thing you do well. Ron talks about being a human doing for most of his life, showing measurable proof of progress, which is all related to ego. [34:10] Ron talks about the shift in thinking required to go from doing to being. [35:00] Janelle talks about the radiance of Debb's personality because of her intense presence and how that impacts and inspires people in ways she may never know. "People will forget what you say, they'll forget what you do, but they'll never forget how you made them feel." [36:55] Debb talks about how much she enjoys brightening people's day and how she intentionally works towards that. [37:55] Janelle asks Debb to try a little experiment: preparing the gift of herself as she gets ready for work. "You, Debb, the human being, are the gift." [39:06] Debb talks about having a purpose for the day instead of a legacy or something tangible. [39:30] Ron emphasizes the importance of collecting the data when you do an experiment. What feels different? What's the impact? "The doing is not what brings the fulfillment, it's the being that brings fulfillment." [41:10] Debb talks about how she's feeling about the discussion. Enjoying the podcast? 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Az alkotmány egyetemekre vonatkozó része a 2000-es években is ugyanaz volt, mint most, mégis nagyon más döntéseket vezettek le belőle, mint most, amikor mintha direkt tételesen alkotmánysértő struktúra állt volna fel az alapítványokkal.

Join Stacey Lauren, Debb Lins, and Dr. Nancy De Andrade for a transformative vision casting workshop Saturday April 15. This is open to the members of the Do The Thing Singles community.. Whether you're looking to meet a future partner or release past patterns and beliefs that are no longer serving you, this workshop is designed to help you open your heart and create a clear vision for the future. Through guided exercises and expert advice, you'll gain the tools and perspective needed to attract the right partner and create a fulfilling relationship. Don't miss out on this opportunity to transform your love life and manifest your deepest desires. https://www.facebook.com/groups/dothethingsingles/

Everyone has goals, dreams, and ambitions. But some of us have to take the scenic route until we're finally ready to do the thing. In this celebration interview, I talked with Debb Lins— Licensed Professional Counselor—to discover how the Do The Thing Dating Dare Challenge profoundly affected her life. As an introvert, stepping out of her comfort zone wasn't easy. But thanks to the challenge and dares, Debb gained the courage to say yes to what brings her joy—healing old wounds and doing all the things she didn't realize she could. Here's how the Do The Thing Dating Dare Challenge drove Debb to start conversations with local veterans and lead an empowerment workshop for women.Want to learn more about Debb? Connect with her at openingdoors2gether.com.

A key to living well is cultivating a biblical perspective in every area of life. Wherever you are in life today, you can start planting seeds in the soil of your need and trust God to do what He says He'll do. As you apply God's wisdom, it's so important to continue cultivating your faith and expectation. When you do this, you can expect to receive phenomenal things from God. In today's episode, Lauren and Debb's finish up the series they started on the law of seedtime & harvest with lots of encouragement to keep the faith as you wait to reap God's promises.

Amelia talks with health champion and entrepreneur Deborah Odunze to talk about her journey through the health and food space. She shares her origin story, inspiration and lessons learned in owning Debb's Kitchen. 

This week our guest is Dr. Scott Debb, professor at Norfolk State University's Master of Science in Cyber Psychology program. We dive deep into the psychology and effects of disinformation and technology by exploring fun topics like doomscrolling and FOMO. With the most calming voice you can imagine, Dr. Debb somehow made us feel alright about the world. We had a wonderful conversation about human behavior and technology, the implicit trust we place in our tech, how individuals fit in our tech-reliant society and the changing nature of the social contract. Above all, we remembered there are human beings behind the chat bubbles on our phones, and we all have an inherent need to belong. Dr. Debb's background is in clinical psychology, primarily working with individuals suffering from anxiety, depression, substance abuse. He's also worked a lot with kids and families in lower socio-economic status areas. Dr. Debb had spent years looking at the expansion of technology and social media as forces of communication and later fell into cyberpsychology as one area of psych that incorporated many interdisciplinary aspects. He ended up creating the first U.S.-based graduate program in Cyberpsychology at Norfolk State University, in Norfolk Virginia. Thank you, Dr. Debb!

A forensic nurse is a Registered or Advanced Practice Nurse with specific training and education. They specialize in caring for patients who experienced acute and long-term health issues related to victimization or violence and have unmet evidentiary needs relative to having been victimized or accused of victimization. Besides these skills, forensic nurses can also provide testimony and consultation for criminal or civil proceedings. In their evolving role, many viewed forensic nursing as a unique area of the nursing field. However, forensic nursing care is not separate and distinct from other forms of medical care but rather integrated into the overall care needs of individual patients. In this Cup of Nurses episode, we welcome our guest Debra Holbrook. She is the Director of Forensic Nursing at Mercy Medical Center in Baltimore and helps coordinate care for interpersonal violence victims in all Baltimore City hospitals. And if forensic nursing is something you have in mind, then this episode is for you. Join us as we discuss another informative topic that will surely ignite your passion for forensic nursing with your favorite, Cup of Nurses!☕☕ Planning to be a forensic nurse? Check out the Academy of Forensic Nursing at https://www.goafn.org/. Academy of Forensic Nursing is a fantastic resource for nurses interested in free seminars on various forensic and trauma topics. #crimes #patientcare #forensics (Timestamps) 00:00 Introduction 01:19 About the guest 08:45 What are the flaws of our healthcare system 13:31 What is an asylum case 15:00 Where is the funding coming from 16:43 Qualities of a forensic nurse 18:48 Forensic nursing myth 21:34 Reasons why victims are not reporting the crime 24:10 The first thing a forensic nurse should do when dealing with a victim 26:58 Very brutal and degrading crimes 29:41 Advanced technology that helps solving crimes 32:41 Alternate Light Source :36:49 What's next for Debb? 38:12 Reasons why heinous crime exist 44:22 Keeping work and life balanced 47:27 Wrapping up the episode Cup of Nurses: https://fanlink.to/CONsite Frontline Warriors: https://fanlink.to/FWsite Apple https://fanlink.to/Applepodcast Spotify https://fanlink.to/Spotifypodcast Cup of Nurses Store https://fanlink.to/CONshop Frontline Warriors store https://fanlink.to/FWshop Interested in Travel Nursing? https://fanlink.to/TravelNurseNow Free Travel Nursing Guide https://fanlink.to/Travelnursingchecklist Nclex Guide https://fanlink.to/NCLEXguide Cup of Nurses FB Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/cupofnurses Frontline Warriors FB group https://fanlink.to/FWFBgroup

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In this episode Debb's and Lauren, along with two special guests, are talking about the importance of attaching our lives to something that matters. We believe one of those things is THE CHURCH. Whether you are actively engaged in church life or are someone who's disengaged, today's conversation is going to be both insightful and helpful. We discuss the purpose of church, finding the right church, examining different denominations, overcoming challenges and ways to grow, flourish and rock church life.

Have you ever heard the saying, “timing is everything”? Have you ever struggled to understand what God is doing or His timing? If so, this episode if for you! Seasons are a normal part of life and Debb's and Lauren want to help you ROCK yours. John Maxwell says, "the wrong action at the wrong time leads to disaster. The right action at the wrong time brings resistance. The wrong action at the right time is a mistake. The right action at the right time results in success." This episode will equip you to rock your seasons and give you a fresh sense of hope and confidence that God will make everything beautiful in your life…in His Time.

This is our first episode of 2022 and Debb's is BACK!! We're really excited about SEASON 2.0 UNSCRIPTED...To kick it off, we're circling back to where we FIRST began, talking about having a First and Main lifestyle. If you want to live a higher quality life, if you want your life to be meaningful and fruitful...this episode is for you!

As we close out 2021, and embark on a brand new 2022 year. Our final and special guest is Debra (Debbie) Edwards. Debbie is the Producer and Host of The Aunt Debb . An inspirational show for youth and young entrepreneurs. Matter of fact, we will let Debbie share her program, in her own words...So stay tune! Oh, the reason why Debbie is a special guest, is because Debbie is one of my beloved Siblings!