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This week Justin is on the road again to High Tider OBX in Kill Devil Hills. High Tider OBX is a golf cart retail store fully stocked with the latest LSV carts, ebikes and scooters as well as all the accessories to go with them. They also provide routine maintenance and repair. Check out their inventory online at hightiderobx.com.Outer Banks This Week Podcast Presented by:Kelly's AutomotivePowered by:Outer Banks Pest ControlSponsored by:Brindley Beach VacationsFrisco Woods CampgroundFresh Catch SeafoodWanchese MarinaBack Beach Horse Tours

PARANORMAL ENCOUNTERS: Be Careful What You Wish For.  This episode will run on the Para-X Radio Network (www.paraxradionetwork.com) on Thursday, August 14, 2025 from 11:00 PM-12:00 Midnight (EST). Educational. Entertaining. Intriguing.Specializing in the unexplained, horror and science-fiction, his artwork often includes elements inspired by ancient cultures, folklore, legend and the occult.  Sam has created artwork for a variety of clients in both the rock and metal music scene and the world of the comic book and graphic novel, creating album covers, merchandise and comic-book covers for a variety of clients including: Jason Charles Miller, Rob Zombie, Slayer, Ministry, Rammstein, Filter, Iron Maiden, KISS, Powerman 5000, HIM, Orgy, Doyle, American Head Charge, Kill Devil Hill, Clive Barker, Stan Lee, IDW publishing, Boom Studios, The X-Files and Fangoria…. to name but a few.Sam Shearon has also created for some of the world's best known musical instrument companies including: ESP Guitars, Schecter Guitar Research and Coffin Case.His artwork can also be found on the covers of various books, films and podcasts regarding cryptozoology and the paranormal. Clients include David Weatherly, Ken Gerhard, Joshua Cutchin, Joshua P. Warren, Whitley Strieber, David Hatcher Childress, Shannon LeGro, Marie D. Jones, Chase Kloetzke, Loren Coleman and many more.  His artwork has also appeared in the pages of Paranormal Magazine and the Fortean Times.His fascination with the supernatural, the paranormal, cryptozoology and the unexplained has played a huge part in his work since his own childhood experiences growing up on the edge of a forest in England. After a nightly visitation by ‘two small Victorian ghost-children and a green fireball' at age seven, shortly after being chased by a giant, seemingly prehistoric dragonfly… Sam's fascination with the unknown became an obsession.SOCIAL MEDIAFacebook and Instagramwww.instagram.com/MisterSamShearonPRINT STOREwww.mistersamshearon.bigcartel.comPATREONwww.patreon.com/MisterSamShearonYOUTUBEwww.youtube.com/MisterSamShearonWEBSITESwww.mistersamshearon.comTo learn more about me, read my biography at www.paranormaluniversalpress.com.  Click on the upper right Podomatic button to go into my podcast site to hear my guests.  View my books on my website or go to Amazon.com.  Copyrighted. Go to Amazon.com, Kindle, Barnes & Noble to purchase. PLAY, LIKE, FOLLOW, and SUBSCRIBE to this program to be notified of future episodes. Doing so is FREE.TO WATCH GUESTS ON "DISEMBODIED VOICES" TV TALK SHOWTake a moment to WATCH my guests visually in a personal interview.  Mister Sam Shearon can be visually seen on PARAFlixx (www.paraflixx.com) on July 27, 2025 on Season 17, Episode 4.  Shows are scheduled to launch at 8/7 Central (USA time).  Shows remain on PARAFlixx indefinitely until changes to remove are made.  Please allow an additional day in the event the show does not get launched as scheduled due to unforeseen circumstances "by the network."DETAILS FOR 3-DAY FREE TRIAL and SUBSCRIBING to PARAFLIXXON INITIAL PAGE - Go To The Bottom (see free trial box)IF SUBSCRIBINGEnter into your search bar this campaign link:  https://bit.ly/3FGvQuYDiscount Code = DV10$4.99/month (U.S.); discount is 10% off first three monthsCancel AnytimeWAYS TO ACCESS SHOWS - go to www.paraflixx.com.  Find my show by going to the upper left corner, click on BROWSE.  Scroll down to TALK SHOWS.  "Disembodied Voices."  

Wilbur and Orville Wright are the American inventors who made a small engine-powered flying machine. They proved that flight without the aid of gas-filled balloons was possible. 威尔伯（Wilbur）和奥维尔·赖特（Orville Wright）是美国发明家，他们制造了一台小型发动机飞行器。 他们证明，没有充满气体气球的飞行是可能的。 Wilbur Wright was born in 1867 near Melville, Indiana. His brother Orville was born four years later in Dayton, Ohio. 威尔伯·赖特（Wilbur Wright）于1867年出生在印第安纳州梅尔维尔（Melville）附近。 他的兄弟奥维尔（Orville）四年后出生在俄亥俄州代顿（Dayton）。 As they grew up, the Wright brothers experimented with mechanical things. Later, the Wright brothers began to design their own flying machine. They used ideas they had developed from earlier experiments with a toy helicopter, kites, the printing machine and bicycles. 随着他们的长大，赖特兄弟（Wright Brothers）试验了机械的东西。 后来，赖特兄弟开始设计自己的飞行器。 他们使用了他们从早期实验中开发的想法，其中包括玩具直升机，风筝，印刷机和自行车。 Soon, they needed a place to test their ideas about flight. The best place with the best wind conditions seemed to be a piece of sandy land in North Carolina along the coast of the Atlantic Ocean. It was called Kill Devil Hill, near the town of Kitty Hawk. 很快，他们需要一个地方来测试他们关于飞行的想法。 最好的风条件下最好的地方似乎是北卡罗来纳州沿着大西洋沿海的一块沙质土地。 它被称为凯蒂·霍克（Kitty Hawk）镇附近的Kill Devil Hill。 The Wright brothers did many tests with gliders at Kitty Hawk. With these tests, they learned how to solve many problems. 赖特兄弟（Wright Brothers）在凯蒂·霍克（Kitty Hawk）对滑翔机进行了许多测试。 通过这些测试，他们学会了如何解决许多问题。 By the autumn of 1903, Wilbur and Orville had designed and built an airplane powered by a gasoline engine. The plane had wings 12 meters across. It weighed about 340 kilograms, including the pilot. 到1903年秋天，威尔伯（Wilbur）和奥维尔（Orville）设计和制造了由汽油发动机提供动力的飞机。 飞机的翅膀有12米。 它重约340公斤，包括飞行员。 On December 17th, 1903, they made the world's first flight in a machine that was heavier than air and powered by an engine. Orville flew the plane 36 meters. He was in the air for 12 seconds. The two brothers made three more flights that day. 1903年12月17日，他们在一台比空气重并由发动机供电的机器中进行了世界第一架飞行。 奥维尔飞行了36米的飞机。 他在空中呆了12秒。 当天，两个兄弟又开了三个航班。 Four other men watched the Wright brothers' first flights. One of the men took pictures. Few newspapers, however, noted the event. 另外四个人看着赖特兄弟的第一批航班。 其中一个人拍照。 但是，很少有报纸指出该活动。 It was almost five years before the Wright brothers became famous. In 1908, Wilbur went to France. He gave demonstration flights at heights of 90 meters. A French company agreed to begin making the Wright brothers' flying machine. 赖特兄弟（Wright Brothers）出名已有将近五年的时间。 1908年，威尔伯去了法国。 他在90米的高处进行了示范航班。 一家法国公司同意开始制作赖特兄弟的飞行器。 Orville made successful flights in the United States at the time Wilbur was in France. The United States War Department agreed to buy a Wright brothers' plane. Wilbur and Orville suddenly became world heroes. But the brothers were not seeking fame. They returned to Dayton where they continued to improve their airplanes. They taught many others how to fly. 威尔伯（Wilbur）在法国，奥尔维尔（Orville）在美国取得了成功的航班。 美国战争部同意购买赖特兄弟的飞机。 威尔伯（Wilbur）和奥维尔（Orville）突然成为世界英雄。 但是兄弟俩并不是在寻求名望。 他们回到代顿，在那里他们继续改善飞机。 他们教了许多其他方法。 Wilbur Wright died of typhoid fever in 1912. Orville Wright continued designing and inventing until he died many years later, in 1948. 威尔伯·赖特（Wilbur Wright）于1912年因伤寒而去世。 Today, the Wright brothers' first airplane is in the Air and Space Museum in Washington, D.C. Visitors to the museum can look at the Wright brothers' small plane. Then they can walk to another area and see space vehicles and a rock collected from the moon. The world has changed a lot since Wilbur and Orville Wright began the modern age of flight over one hundred years ago. 今天，赖特兄弟（Wright Brothers）的第一架飞机位于华盛顿特区的空中博物馆中。博物馆的游客可以看一下赖特兄弟的小型飞机。 然后，他们可以步行到另一个区域，看到太空车辆和从月球收集的岩石。 自威尔伯（Wilbur）和奥维尔·赖特（Orville Wright）一百多年前开始现代飞行以来，世界发生了很大变化。

In 1958, the Tuck family was plagued by a series of eerie, spontaneous fires – flames that defied logic, burned with strange colors, and followed them wherever they went, leaving behind a haunting with more questions than answers.IN THIS EPISODE: In the late 1950s, the Tuck family of Alabama found themselves at the center of a terrifying ordeal as mysterious fires spontaneously erupted in their home. Despite their best efforts to escape the flames, the fiery phenomenon followed them from one residence to another, consuming their possessions and leaving them homeless. We'll look at this case and other similar ones where the seeming explanation is nothing short of paranormal. (Paranormal Flames) *** In the sleepy Kentish hamlet of Charing, a centuries-old mystery unfolds every May Day. As the clock strikes midnight, ghostly children emerge from their moss-encrusted graves, their ethereal feet dancing to the silent fiddle's tune. It's all part of the "Night of the Dancing Feet." (Dancing After Death) *** Before his wife's murder in June 2009, Eli Weaver had numerous affairs with women he met through online dating sites, where he called himself an "Amish Stud." But only one mistress was willing to kill for him. (Eli Weaver, Amish Stud and Murderer) *** The American West evokes iconic images often seen in movies: bold adventures, noon shootouts, resolute sheriffs and marshals maintaining order, and the cavalry arriving just in time. However, the history of the Wild West, replete with myths and stereotypes, presents a more complex and sometimes disturbing reality about justice in that era. (Wild West Justice) *** On the morning of July 13, 1997, the body of Denise Johnson was discovered inside her burning childhood home in Kill Devil Hills, NC. Emergency responders quickly realized they weren't dealing with a simple arson, but a murder as well.  Now, more than two decades later, the case remains unsolved. (The Unsolved Murder of Denise Johnson) *** Hachishakusama, often referred to as the "Japanese Slender Man," is a haunting figure from Japanese urban legends that rivals the terror of her American counterpart. While the Slender Man has gained a cult-like following and has even inspired real-life horror stories, Hachishakusama's tale is equally spine-chilling and capable of keeping you up at night. (The Japanese Slender Man)CHAPTERS & TIME STAMPS (All Times Approximate)…00:00:00.000 = Disclaimer and Lead-In00:01:39.446 = Show Open00:04:48.027 = Paranormal Flames00:24:26.752 = The Unsolved Murder of Denise Johnson00:38:08.456 = Dancing After Death (Night of the Dancing Feet)00:46:29.513 = Wild West Justice00:56:30.302 = Eli Weaver, Amish Stud and Murderer01:06:14.321 = The Japanese Slender Man01:11:41.698 = Show Close, Verse, and Final ThoughtSOURCES AND RESOURCES FROM THE EPISODE…BOOK: “Ablaze – The Mysterious Fires of Spontaneous Human Combustion” by Larry E. Arnold: https://amzn.to/3UqdhmzBOOK: “A Killing In Amish Country” by Gregg Olsen and Rebecca Morris: https://amzn.to/44wghmb“Paranormal Flames” source: Marcus Lowth at UFO Insight: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/4eb8xht2“The Unsolved Murder of Denise Johnson” source: Jacob Shelton at Ranker: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/2p8t3b7p“Dancing After Death” by Ken DaSilva-Hill submitted directly to Weird Darkness and used with permission“Wild West Justice” source: Christy Box at Weird History: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/2p8db9vj“Eli Weaver, Amish Stud and Murderer” source: Hannah Reilly Holtz at AllThatsInteresting.com:https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/4jfmybjh“The Japanese Slender Man” source: Curry L Mitchell at ListVerse: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/bdd7fthz=====Darkness Syndicate members get the ad-free version. https://weirddarkness.com/syndicateInfo on the next LIVE SCREAM event. https://weirddarkness.com/LiveScreamInfo on the next WEIRDO WATCH PARTY event. https://weirddarkness.com/TV=====(Over time links seen above may become invalid, disappear, or have different content. I always make sure to give authors credit for the material I use whenever possible. If I somehow overlooked doing so for a story, or if a credit is incorrect, please let me know and I will rectify it in these show notes immediately. Some links included above may benefit me financially through qualifying purchases.)= = = = ="I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness." — John 12:46= = = = =WeirdDarkness® is a registered trademark. Copyright ©2025, Weird Darkness.=====Originally aired: May 01, 2024EPISODE PAGE at WeirdDarkness.com (includes list of sources): https://weirddarkness.com/PhantomFlames

Annegret is a German American fiber artist who divides her time between Chapel Hill, a university town, and Kill Devil Hills, a town on the North Atlantic coast. Born in Germany and now residing in North Carolina, she lived in Ghana, France, Great Britain, and Australia before moving to the United States in 2001. Together with travels to countries as varied as Italy and India, these different cultural frameworks have shaped both her life and her art. The shores of the Albemarle Sound, near Kill Devil Hills on North Carolina's Outer Banks, have become the inspiration for her recent work which explores the fragile ecosystems of the seaboard, where the impacts of global warming, human expansion, and nature's resilience create a beautiful albeit precarious environment. Both the colors of the seashore and the use of earth pigments shape her palette, and photography serves as visual inspiration. Her journey as an artist started almost thirty years ago as a traditional, self-taught quilter. After taking numerous in-person and online workshops, she decided that it was necessary to acquire a more formal education. Between 2018 and 2020, she completed an advanced (Level 4) City and Guild accredited course with the School of Stitched Textiles, followed by its two-year Master Practitioner Course which emphasized design skills and artistic development. She is active in the Studio Art Quilts Associates – both in the European and Middle Eastern region and the one covering North Carolina and Virginia. Her work has been exhibited in Europe and the United States, and she has her first solo exhibition coming up in May. School of Stitched Textiles https://www.sofst.org/Annegret's website https:/www.afauser.com Instagram @annegretfauser

Johnny Kelly From Sun Don't Shine, Quiet Riot, Silvertomb and Type O Negative on the Loaded Radio Podcast Johnny Kelly has been a staple in the heavy music world for decades. Best known for his tenure as the drummer for Type O Negative, Kelly has kept himself incredibly busy over the years, working with Danzig, Quiet Riot, Kill Devil Hill, and more. On this week's edition of The Loaded Radio Podcast, Johnny joins us to discuss everything from his time in Type O Negative to his thoughts on a potential Peter Steele tribute concert and what it would take to pull off such an event the right way.

In celebration of November being National Aviation History Month, this is Part One of Two Episodes focusing on the history of flight, from America to England, and across to Europe. Hear about famous pilots, the creation of gliders and airplanes, and about aviation related museums and destinations you can visit. FEATURED GUESTS: - DEBBIE STONE, travel writer, talks about her visit to the Wright Brothers National Memorial in Kill Devil Hills, North Carolina. Read her story: https://nationalparktraveling.com/listing/lots-to-love-about-the-outer-banks/ - GLYNN BURROWS is a historian and owner of Norfolk Tours in England. Read his article about US WWII Airfields in the UK:  https://blendradioandtv.com/listing/norfolks-us-airfields-during-wwii/  - ARYN YOUNGLESS, a writer and genealogist, talks about the life and career of pilot Bessie Coleman. Read her article about this aviation pioneer: https://genealogybyaryn.substack.com/p/the-life-of-bessie-coleman   - JO CLARK, travel writer, talks about Harris Hill, the glider-soaring capital of America that's located near Elmira, in Big Flats, New York. Check out her story about the history and visitor experience: https://recipestravelculture.com/amazing-glider-soaring-over-finger-lakes/  - MIKE DOWD is an aviation history buff, as well as a pilot, engineer, and mechanic. Hear about his flight history and noteworthy pilots he met along his journey.  LISTEN TO PART TWO of this AVIATION HISTORY SHOW SERIES ON BIG BLEND RADIO HERE: https://youtu.be/J1dUp1WgES8 CHECK OUT OUR BIG BLEND AVIATION HISTORY GUIDE featuring podcasts, interviews, articles, books, and documentary films, here: https://blendradioandtv.com/listing/aviation-history-guide/ 

Send us a textRock Legends Unleashed: Inside Stories Of Drumming Icon Vinny Appice#vinnyappice #dio #blacksabbath #drums #metalmusic Vinny's unique, powerful drumming is marked not by his performances with a single group, but by his flawless musical contributions to an extensive list of rock and roll icons like Black Sabbath, Ronnie James Dio, Heaven & Hell, Rick Derringer, John Lennon and more!A consummate performer and drummer, Vinny also is a brilliant clinician, performing clinics and master classes all across the globe as well as making appearances in films and television.Vinny Appice, has anchored the rhythm and power live and in the studio for the music of DIO, BLACK SABBATH, HEAVEN AND HELL, WWIII, AXIS, RICK DERRINGER, JOHN LENNON and more. He has recorded and co-written songs on over 25 albums and CDs, including many multi-platinum records. Touring the world for over 2 decades resulted in selling millions of records!Vinny's drumming can also be heard on numerous movie soundtracks including Wayne's World 2, Heavy Metal, Iron Eagle and Bedazzled. Vinny, the author of drum instruction book "Rock Steady" and DVD "Hard Rock Drumming Techniques" has performed incredible powerhouse drum clinics around the globe also. Numerous books have been written about Black Sabbath and Dio with the authors always mentioning Vinny's unique powerful drumming style!Drum Wars Live: https://cleorecs.com/products/carmine-vinny-appice-drum-wars-live-cd?_pos=1&_sid=50dc8b476&_ss=rWebsite: https://vinnyappice.com/Thanks for tuning in, please be sure to click that subscribe button and give this a thumbs up!!Email: thevibesbroadcast@gmail.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/listen_to_the_vibes_/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thevibesbroadcastnetworkLinktree: https://linktr.ee/the_vibes_broadcastTikTok: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeuTVRv2/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheVibesBrdcstTruth: https://truthsocial.com/@KoyoteFor all our social media and other links, go to: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/the_vibes_broadcastPlease subscribe, like, and share!

Visiting with Justin this week is Coach Chad Williams, athletic director and varsity basketball coach at First Flight High School in Kill Devil Hills. Chad talks about his charity benefit Good Guys vs. Cancer, which is happening December 4 through 7 at First Flight High School. This high school basketball showcase brings talented basketball teams from near and far to help raise money for those fighting cancer. For more information on how you can donate or for tickets, please go to goodguysvscancer.com! Outer Banks This Week Podcast Presented by:Kelly's AutomotiveSponsored by:Gallop RoofingInn on Pamlico Sound & Cafe PamlicoDare Education FoundationAuthor Jan DawsonWanchese Off Road

TWR Season 4 Episode 7 of the Travels With Randy podcast is here! TWR Live! In Charlotte NC Randy and Bubba get the rare opportunity to sit down face to face and record a TWR live. Randy catches everyone up on his journey from southern Virginia to the Outer Banks of North Carolina and finally over to Charlotte for a home cooked meal by Mrs. Bubba and a lively chat at the dinner table. Come join the conversation on Facebook! https://www.facebook.com/travelswithrandypodcast Have a great idea for the guys?  Want to sponsor us?  Want to be a guest?  Email bubba@travelswithrandypodcast.com

Have you ever wondered where the relaxing sounds you listen to come from?  When you take this Journey of Relaxation with me you will know exactly where and when it was recorded.These relaxing sounds are coming to you from Kill Devil Hills Beach on March 5, 2022 4:30 pm.New intro Support the showTake a moment to find the beauty of nature every day,Duchess of the DunesTikTokFacebookYouTube

Two recent Cirrus accidents killed a total of seven people. Greg Feith, John Goglia and Todd Curtis have some advice for Cirrus pilots to avoid similar tragedies. They caution newer technology supports, but is not a replacement for, good planning and pilot decision-making.One accident at Kill Devil Hills airport in North Carolina, killed four adults and one child. Another, in Provo, Utah airport killed both occupants.The Kill Devil Hills aircraft apparently had the maximum possible number of occupants. Todd shares his experiences flying with a heavily loaded aircraft and how weight impacts safe flight practices. Kill Devil Hills Airport has a relatively short runway. Planning and maintaining a stabilized approach, making adjustments for trees and towers, and factoring in weather conditions all need consideration when planning to take off and land there.Accident investigators are urged to look into the specific training the pilot had for this Cirrus model.In the Utah flight, the aircraft may have entered an accelerated stall and crashed during a second approach shortly after turning from the downwind leg to the base leg.Like the first accident, ADS-B data indicated that the accident aircraft did not recently land at the accident airport. The pilot's lack of familiarity and planning may be key factors in the crash. Don't miss what's to come from the Flight Safety Detectives - subscribe to the Flight Safety Detectives YouTube channel, listen at your favorite podcast service and visit the Flight Safety Detectives website. Music: “Inspirational Sports” license ASLC-22B89B29-052322DDB8

Interview with Steve Leininger, Designer of the TRS-80- Model I Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/FloppyDays Sponsors: 8-Bit Classics  Arcade Shopper   0                                 Floppy Days Tune 1 min 13 sec              Vintage Computer Ads 1 min 42 sec              Intro 9 min 03 sec             bumper - Peter Bartlett  9 min 11 sec              New Acquisitions 17 min 11 sec             bumper - Ian Mavric  17 min 19 sec            Upcoming Computer Shows 21 min 53 sec            bumper - Myles Wakeham 21 min 58 sec            Meet the Listeners 28 min 37 sec            Interview with Steve Leininger 1 hr 20 min 29 sec    Closing This particular episode has a special meaning for me, personally.  You see, as I've mentioned on earlier episodes, the TRS-80 Model I from Tandy/Radio Shack was my first home computer (even though my first programmable device was a TI58C calculator).  I recall the joy and wonder of playing with the machine (it wasn't called the Model I at that time; just the TRS-80; as it was the first of the line) in the local Radio Shack store in 1977 and 1978 and the incredible rush of owning one in 1979; after my wife purchased a Level I BASIC machine for me as a gift for college graduation.  That machine only had 4K of RAM and 4K of ROM (Tiny BASIC), as it was the entry-level machine, but it was a thing of beauty.  I felt like I could do anything with that machine, even though my justification to the wife was that we could track our checkbook and recipes on it.  I think she knew better, but went along with it anyway.  The computer came with everything you needed, including a tape drive and black-and-white monitor, which was good for a poor recent college graduate.  I quickly, as finances allowed with my new engineering job, upgraded the computer to 16K of RAM and Level II BASIC (a powerful Microsoft 12K ROM BASIC) and enjoyed the machine immensely, even using it in my job supporting the build-out of a new nuclear power plant back in those days. I eventually sold off the Model I, in favor of a computer that had color graphics and sound (the Atari 800), but have always continued to have a huge soft spot for that first computer. When I started the Floppy Days Podcast, one of the people that has always been on my bucket list to interview has been Steve Leininger, who, along with Don French while at Radio Shack designed the TRS-80 Model I, among other things.  A few years back, I had the opportunity to participate in an interview with Steve for the Trash Talk Podcast, when I was co-hosting that show, but an ill-timed trip to the hospital for my son meant that I was not able to participate.  While my son's health is of paramount importance, of course, I always wanted to get another chance to talk with Steve.  Not only was Steve the designer of one of my favorite home computers of all time, but he also was a fellow Purdue University Boilermaker, who graduated just a year before I started there.  The thought that I could have met Steve on campus if I'd been there just a year earlier was very intriguing to me, and fueled my desire to talk with Steve even more. In the last episode (#141 with Paul Terrell) I talked about VCF Southeast in Atlanta in July of 2024.  After I had made plans to attend that show, I was flabbergasted to find out that Earl Baugh, one of the show organizers, had somehow managed to contact Steve and get him to come to the show!  I have to thank Earl for the work he did to make that happen.  Here was my opportunity to certainly meet Steve, and perhaps even talk with him!  I prepped some questions, just in case I was able to get an interview. While at the show, I met Steve and asked him if he would be willing to do a short interview for Floppy Days while at the show.  Amazingly, he was very kind and agreed to do that.  We found a quiet room and I was able to talk with Steve for almost an hour.  This show contains that interview. Another note on this: as you'll hear in the interview, the connection to Steve is even stronger than I realized!  He not only went to my alma mater, but also grew up in some of the same towns that myself and my wife did.  We personally peripherally know some of his relatives.  Things like this really do make you think the world is small! One other, final, note: This interview even ties into the recent and continuing interviews I've been publishing with Paul Terrell.  As you'll hear in upcoming episodes with Paul, and in this interview with Steve, Steve actually worked at the Byte Shop before getting the first job with Tandy, and in fact his work at the Byte Shop directly led to him getting hired by Tandy to design the Model I. Anyway, I hope you enjoy the interview as much as I enjoyed getting it.  I am overjoyed I finally got the chance to talk to one of my vintage computer heroes, Steve Leininger! 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I really appreciate your time today, Steve.  Steve Leininger: Thank you for having me, Randy.  Randy Kindig: So let's start out maybe just by talking about where You live today, and what you do? Steve Leininger: I live in Woodland Park, Colorado, which is 8, 500 feet, right out in front of we got Pike's Peak out our front window. Randy Kindig: Oh. Oh, that's nice.  Steve Leininger: Yeah we get snow up through about June, and then it starts again about September. But it's not as much snow as you would imagine.  Randy Kindig: I've got property in Montana, and I lived out there for a couple of years,  Steve Leininger: so there you go.  Randy Kindig: We probably got more snow up there.  Steve Leininger: Hey, you asked what I did.  I'm involved with Boy Scouts, a maker space with a church based ministry firewood ministry, actually. Some people call it a fire bank. So we provide firewood to people who can't afford that.  Randy Kindig: Oh.  Steve Leininger: So it's like a food bank, but with fire, firewood.  Randy Kindig: I've never heard of that. Steve Leininger: We source the firewood. We cut it down and we split it. Lots of volunteers involved; pretty big project.  Randy Kindig: Yeah. Okay, cool. I also wanted to mention, I'm a fellow Boilermaker.  Steve Leininger: There you go.  Randy Kindig: I know you went to Purdue, right?  Steve Leininger: I did go to Purdue.  Randy Kindig: Did you ever get back there?  Steve Leininger: Yeah, and in fact they've got a couple learning spaces named after us. Randy Kindig: Oh, okay.  Steve Leininger: We've been donating to our respective alma maters. My wife went to IU.  Randy Kindig: Oh, is that right? Oh my.  Steve Leininger: Yeah, oh my and me. Yeah, the fact that the family who's all IU, their family tolerated me was, quite a remarkable thing.  Randy Kindig: Okay.  I find it interesting because I think you graduated in 76, is that right? Steve Leininger: 74.  Randy Kindig: Oh, 74.  Steve Leininger: Yeah. Yeah. I was there from … Randy Kindig: Oh yeah, you actually were gone before I started.  Steve Leininger: Yeah. So I was there from 70 to 73. 70 to 70 four. When I graduated in four years, I got both my bachelor's and master's degree by going through the summer. I managed to pass out of the first year classes because of some of the high school stuff yeah.  Randy Kindig: Okay. I started in 75, so I guess we just missed each other.  Steve Leininger: Yeah. Yeah. You're the new kids coming in.  Randy Kindig: Yeah. . So I, I found that interesting and I wanted to say that. Do you keep up with their sports program or anything like that? Steve Leininger: Yeah, they play a pretty good game of basketball in fact, I ribbed my wife about it because she was from the earlier days, the Bobby Knight days at IU that were phenomenal.  Randy Kindig: Yeah, exactly. For those of you listening, I'm talking with Steve Leininger, who was the primary developer, if not the developer, of the TRS 80 Model I.. Steve Leininger: I did all the hardware and software for it. I'll give Don French credit for sticking to it and getting a project started. And for refining, refining our product definition a little bit to where it was better than it would have been if I would have stopped early.  Randy Kindig: Okay. And I have talked with Don before. I've interviewed him on the podcast, and I met him at Tandy Assembly. But I'm just curious, when you were hired into Tandy and you were told what you were going to do; exactly what were you told?  Steve Leininger: They had a 16 bit microprocessor board that another consultant had developed. And they were trying to make a personal computer out of this. It was the Pace microprocessor, which was not a spectacular success for National, but it was one of the first 16 bit processors. But they had basically an initial prototype, might have been even the second level of the thing. No real documentation, no software, ran on three different voltages and didn't have input or output. Other than that, it was fine. I was brought in because I was one of the product one of the engineers for the development boards, the development board series for the SCAMP, the S C M P, the National Semiconductor had a very low cost microprocessor that at one point in time, I benchmarked against the 8080 with positive benchmarks and ours was faster on the benchmarks I put together, but as I was later told there's lies, damn lies, and benchmarks. But so they said take a look at using that, their low cost microprocessor that you were working with. And it really wasn't the right answer for the job. Let's see, the Altair was already out. Okay. That was the first real personal computer. The Apple, the Apple 1 was out. Okay. But it was not a consumer computer. Okay. They, it was just, it was like a cookie sheet of parts, which was very similar to what was used in the Atari games at the commercial games. Okay. pong and that kind of stuff at that time. And I had been working, after Purdue, I went to National Semiconductor. There's a long story behind all that. But in the process, some of us engineers would go up to the Homebrew Computer Club that met monthly up at the Stanford Linear Accelerator. We're talking Wilbur and Orville Wright kinds of things going on. Yeah. Everyone who was in the pioneering version of computing had at one time been to that meeting. Randy Kindig: It's very famous. Yeah.  Steve Leininger: Yeah. And Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak were basically a couple guys working out of their garage at the time. I was still working at National Semiconductor, but I also had a Moonlight job at Byte Shop number 2. The second computer store in all of California. Randy Kindig: And So you worked with Paul Terrell. Steve Leininger: I actually worked with one of, yeah, Paul, I actually worked for Paul's I don't know if it was a partner, Todd, I don't even remember the guy's name. But I just, it was.  Randy Kindig: I was curious because I'm talking to Paul right now and getting interviews. Steve Leininger: Yeah. I, I'm sure we met, but it wasn't anything horribly formal. Since it was the number two shop, it still wasn't the number one shop, which Paul worked out of. And so we had an Apple 1 there. I actually got the job because I when I When I went in there, they were trying to troubleshoot something with what looked like an oscilloscope that they pulled out of a tank, and so it had, audio level kind of bandwidth, but could not do a digital circuit. And I said what you really need is a, I told him, a good tectonic scope or something like that. He said do you want a job here? I ended up moonlighting there, which was, as fortune would have it, was a good deal when the folks from Radio Shack came down to visit. Because when they came down to visit the sales guy wasn't there. We'll let the engineer talk to them, they almost never let the engineers talk to them.  Randy Kindig: So you had to talk with them.  Steve Leininger: Yeah. It was John Roach, Don French, and it was probably Jack Sellers, okay and Don was probably the; he was the most on top of stuff electronically because he was a hobbyist of sorts. The other two guys: Mr. Sellers ran the engineering group. John Roach was the VP of manufacturing. And they were basically on a parts visit. They do it once a year, once, twice a year. And they also did it with Motorola and a couple other places. But I told him about this microprocessor and that I was writing a tiny BASIC for it. Okay. Tiny BASIC was a interpreted basic that a guy named Li-Chen Wang actually had the first thing in Dr. Dobbs, Dr. Dobbs magazine. We're talking about, we're talking about things that you don't realize are the shoulders of giants that turned out to be the shoulders of giants. And in fact, we reached out to Mr. Wang as we were working on it. We thought we had the software already taken care of because I'm jumping ahead in the story, but we were going to have Bob Uterich, and you'd have to chase that back. We had him signed up to write a BASIC interpreter for us, but because he'd already done one for the 6800, and it was included in Interface Age magazine. on a plastic record. You remember the old plastic records you could put in a magazine?  Randy Kindig: Yeah, I did see that.  Steve Leininger: Yeah, so this was called a floppy ROM when they did it. Yeah. So if you had the right software and everything you could download the software off of the floppy ROM and run it on 6800. I think he used the Southwest Technical Products thing. And so we'd signed him up to do the BASIC. This was independent of the hardware design I was doing. And he went into radio silence on us; couldn't find him. And so we get to, in parallel, I was using the Li-Chen Wang plan to do at least a demo version of BASIC that would run on the original computer. And when the demo went successfully on Groundhog Day in 1977. This is the time frame we're talking about. I I started work on July 5th, the year before it. With Tandy? Yeah. Okay. We rolled into town on the 3rd, and of course they're closed for the 4th. And on the 5th I started, and there was the wandering around in the desert at the beginning of that, and Don's probably talked about how I was moved from there to their audio factory and then to the old saddle factory. Tandy used to be primarily a leather company before they bought Radio Shack in 1966 or something like that. And anyway, when the software didn't come out, I ended up writing the software, too. So I designed all the hardware and all the software. I didn't do the power supply. Chris Klein did the power supply. And, a little bit of the analog video circuitry, but it was very little part of that. Because we were just making a video signal. I did all the digital stuff on that. Yeah.  Randy Kindig: So the software ended up being what was the level one ROM, right?  Steve Leininger: Yeah, the level one ROM started out as the Li-Chen Wang BASIC. But he had no I. O. in his software, so I was doing the keyboard scanning. I had to do the cassette record and playback. Had to implement data read and data write Peek and poke, which is pretty simple. Put in the graphic statements. Yeah, oh, and floating point. Now, floating point, luckily, Zilog had a library for that, but I had to basically, this was before APIs were a big deal, so I basically had to use their interface, To what I had written and had to allocate storage, correct? We're talking about 4K bytes of ROM. I know, yeah. Very tiny, and to put all the I. O. in there, and to make it so that you could be updating the screen, when you're doing the cassette I put two asterisks up there and blinked the second one on and off, you remember that?  Randy Kindig: Oh yeah. Steve Leininger: Sort of as a level set.  Randy Kindig: Yeah.  Steve Leininger: And someone said, oh, you should have patented that thing. And actually I have seven or eight patents, U. S. patents, on different parts of the computer architecture.  Randy Kindig: Oh, do you?  Steve Leininger: But not the blinking asterisk, which is probably a patentable feature.  Randy Kindig: Yeah, I wish I'd had that on other machines, that I ended up having. So that would have been nice, yeah. I liken what you've done with what Steve Wozniak did, for the Apple II. You're somebody I've always wanted to talk to because I felt like you were one of the important pioneers in their early years. What do you have to say about that? Do you feel like what you did was ... Steve Leininger: in retrospect, yes. And I have a greater appreciation for people like the Wright Brothers. If you think about the Wright Brothers they took all their stuff from their Dayton, Ohio, bicycle shop down to Kill Devil Hills. We now know it as Kitty Hawk. But they would take the stuff down there by train, and then they would have to put it in horse driven wagons. Think about that. And people would ask them, what are you going to use the airplane for? It's what are you going to use a home computer for? Yeah, to maintain recipes and to play games.  Randy Kindig: Do your checkbook.  Steve Leininger: Do your check, home security. There's a whole lot of stuff that we talked about. And other giants entered the field: Multiplan, which became Lotus 1 2 3, which became Excel. Not the same company, but the idea, could you live without a spreadsheet today? Very difficult for some things, right?  Randy Kindig: Yeah. Yeah, it's ubiquitous.  People use it for everything. Yeah. Yeah. So you've been, I talked with David and Teresa Walsh. Or Welsh, I'm sorry, Welsh. Where they did the book Priming the Pump. Steve Leininger: That's very that's pretty close to the real thing.  Randy Kindig: Is it? Okay. They named their book after what you did and said; that you primed the pump for home computers. Can you expand on that and tell us exactly what you meant by that?  Steve Leininger: It again goes back to that shoulders of giants thing, and I forget who said that; it's actually a very old quote, I can see further because I'm standing on the shoulders of giants. And I think the thing that we brought to the table and Independently, Commodore and Apple did the same thing in 1977. There were three computers that came out inexpensive enough that you could use them in the home. They all came with ROM loaded BASIC. You didn't have to load anything else in. They all came with a video output. Some had displays. Some Commodore's was built in. One of ours was a Clip on and you had to go find one for the apple. For the Apple, yeah. Apple had a superior case. Apple and Radio Shack both had great keyboards. Randy Kindig: apple was expandable, with its... Steve Leininger: yeah, Apple Apple was internally expandable, yeah. And, but it cost $1,000. Without the cassette. Without the monitor. It wasn't the same type of device.  Randy Kindig: I was a college student. And, I looked at all three options. It was like the TRS-80; there are Radio Shacks everywhere.  You could go in and play with one; which was nice. And they were inexpensive enough that I could actually afford one. Steve Leininger: And, Radio Shack can't duck the, if you did something wrong, you had to fix it.  Randy Kindig: That's right. Let's see here. So initially the idea was to have a kit computer by Tandy? Steve Leininger: Yeah. I'm not sure whose idea that was. It made some kind of sense. Because that's the way the Altair was, and Radio Shack did sell a number of kits, but in the process of still kicking that around, saying it could be a possibility. I was one of the ones that said it could be a possibility. Within the same group that I did the design work from, they also would take kits in that people had built and troubleshoot the things if they didn't work. We had a couple engineers that would see if you connected something wrong or something.  If you didn't, sometimes it was a matter that the instructions weren't clear. If you tell someone to put an LED in, yeah. You specifically have to tell them which way to put it in. And might be an opportunity to tweak your timing. Yeah. Anyway, we get this clock in, and it was a digital clock. Seven segment LEDs probably cost 50 bucks or more. Which is crazy. But It says, put all the components in the board, turn the board over, and solder everything to the board. And, pretty simple instructions. This had a sheet of solder over the entire bottom of the board. Someone figured out how to put two pounds of solder on the back of this thing. And, as we all got a great chuckle out of that, You realize, oh, you don't want to have to deal with a computer like this. You really don't. And Lou Kornfeld, who was the president at the time, didn't really want the computer. But he said, it's not going to be a kit. All right. That, that, that took care of that. great idea. Great idea.  Randy Kindig: Were there any other times when you thought the computer might, or were there any times, when you thought the computer might not come to fruition? Any snags that you had that made you think that maybe this isn't going to work?  Steve Leininger: Not really. I was young and pretty well undaunted. Randy Kindig: Pretty sure you could,  Steve Leininger: yeah I, it wasn't any, it wasn't any different than building one at home. I'd been building kits since, night kits, heath kits, that kind of stuff, since I was a kid. And home brewed a couple things, including a hot dog cooker made from two nails and a couple wires that plugged into the wall. Don't try that at home.  Randy Kindig: No kidding.  Steve Leininger: But, it's funny if you If you look it up on, if you look that kind of project up on the internet, you can still find a project like that. It's like what's it called? Anvil tossing, where you put gunpowder under an anvil, shoot it up in the air. What could possibly go wrong? Don't,  Randy Kindig: It's very well documented in books like Priming the Pump, Stan Veit's book, which I assume you're familiar with, and Fire in the Valley, what your involvement was with the Model 1. But there was some mention of your involvement with the Expansion Interface and other TRS 80 projects. What else did you work on while you were there?  Steve Leininger: The Color Computer, the Expansion Interface. The model three to a little.  Randy Kindig: Okay.  Steve Leininger: Little bit. The model two was the big one. And point I just got tired of the management there.  Randy Kindig: Did you? Okay.  Steve Leininger: Yeah. I my mind was going faster than theirs, and they made the conscious decision to do whatever IBM has done, but do it cheaper. That, to me, that's not a. Didn't say less expensively either, so the whole thing just troubled me that, we're not going to be able to do anything new unless IBM has done it. And at about the same time the Macintosh came out and a superb piece of work. Yeah.  Randy Kindig: Okay. So what education training and previous work experience did you have at the time you got hired by Tandy that made you uniquely qualified for that project that they were looking for?  Steve Leininger: I'd been playing around with electronics since I was in the third grade. Actually, electricity.  Randy Kindig: The third grade, wow.  Steve Leininger: Yeah. My, my mom got me a kit that had light bulbs and bells and buzzers and wire from, I think it might have been the Metropolitan Museum. They had a kit. They, they've got a, they still today have an online presence. It, of course the materials have changed, but the kit had all these parts and it had no instructions. And I don't know if that was by design or it didn't have instructions, so I had to learn how to hook up wires and light bulbs and bells and switches to make it do things. And, in the process, I found out that if you put a wire right across the battery terminals, it gets hot. And, interesting stuff to know. Pretty soon, I was taking this stuff in to show and tell in the third grade. Look, and I was very early in electronics. It's electricity. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then my mom would take me to the library. She was quite a voracious reader, and I'd go to the library. technical section specifically the Dewey Decimal 621, which was electronics and things like that. Randy Kindig: you still remember that.  Steve Leininger: Yeah. And in the 590 series, there's some good stuff too. And I would usually take out a stack of books, even though I was a horrible reader because I'm dyslexic and ADD. So I have an attention span and reading problem. But the technical stuff I was reading about pipeline architecture processors while I was still in junior high. And not that was important to where I ended up, but it was important because I understood the words and data flow, and stuff like that. And between that and building the kits and things like that, I When we moved to Indianapolis, my dad moved jobs down to Indianapolis. Randy Kindig: Oh, you lived in Indianapolis?  Steve Leininger: Yeah. So I moved from South Bend down to Indianapolis. So I probably passed your house as . Actually we came down through Kokomo, but but yeah.  Randy Kindig: I actually grew up in that part of the state. Just south of South Bend.  Steve Leininger: Okay. So yeah La Paz, Plymouth,  Randy Kindig: yeah, Warsaw, Rochester.  Steve Leininger: Yeah, I was born in Rochester.  Randy Kindig: Oh, okay. So that's where I grew up in that area.  Steve Leininger: Okay, there you go. My dad's from Akron.  Randy Kindig: Are you serious?  Steve Leininger: I am serious.  Randy Kindig: Akron's where my wife grew up. And I was just 10 miles from there.  Steve Leininger: The general store there, Dan Leininger and Sons, that's my great grandfather. Randy Kindig: Really?  Steve Leininger: Yeah.  Randy Kindig: I'll be darned. Okay. Okay.  Steve Leininger: So now it all makes sense.  Randy Kindig: That's amazing.  Steve Leininger: Anyway, we started a garage band. This is before Apple's garage band. And I made my own amplifier. It basically had the sun sun amplifiers back end on the thing and a Fender Showman front end on it. Completely home brewed really loud amplifier. And I had a friend who had a guitar amplifier that was broken, and he had taken it down to the music store there. And after six weeks of not getting it back, they said we've had trouble with our technician and all that. I asked if I could go down and look at it, and in 15 minutes I had his amplifier fixed. And they said, do you want tom so you want a job? All right. Yeah, because I'd been doing, I'd had a paper route before and I don't think I was doing anything since we'd moved and ao I started working in a music store and they ended up with two music stores and then an organ store next door and I started repairing that kind of stuff. And this was the end of my first year in college. Went to the extension in Indianapolis.  Randy Kindig: Oh, okay. And Was that I U P U I?  Steve Leininger: IUPUI, yeah. Yeah. I, yeah, I U P U I.  Randy Kindig: Huh. I went there as well.  Steve Leininger: Yeah and learned Fortran there, got all my first year classes out, and then moved on up to the campus. And because we'd always go to the library, and because my mom would often take me to the library, the newsstand not too far from the library, and she'd get a couple magazines, but she let me get an electronic magazine. And, I didn't understand these things, pretty soon you start understanding the pic, you start understanding it. This is a resistor, I built a little shocker box based on a design in probably elementary electronics. And It's like a handheld electric fence.  Randy Kindig: Oh, wow.  Steve Leininger: Yeah. Think hot dog cooker. Anyway, so I learned some electronics that way. A lot of that was self taught. I learned quite a bit more by working in the music store, again, this was before I was taught any formal electronics. And actually when I moved up to campus on Purdue, I thought I was going to be a world class guitar amplifier designer. That's where I thought. And it turns out my analog gut feelings aren't, weren't as good as other people's. Paul Schreiber does a much better job with electronics, with analog electronics than I do. But digital electronics, I understood this stuff. I would hang out in the library and I'd read the trade magazines. So I was up to date on, I was way more up to date than a typical professor would be on current electronics. And in 1973, which was the end of my junior year, Electronics Magazine had an article on the Intel 8008. And I said, Oh, I understand this. See, I'd already been taking assembly language. Now they didn't teach assembly language programming in the electronics school. They had Fortran, but there was no way to get from Fortran to ..they weren't teaching programming languages. I had to go to the business school where I learned assembly language on the school's CDC 6600 mainframe.  Randy Kindig: Really?  Steve Leininger: Yeah.  Randy Kindig: Through the business school?  Steve Leininger: Yeah. And for those of you who have never tried assembly language programming, it looks like a foreign language until you just internalize it in your brain: there's ADD, A D and A D C for ADD with carry, and there's a whole bunch of different things. There's different ways to move data around, but you're only doing a few really basic things, and if you do it fast enough, it looks like it's instantaneous. That's the way even your phone works today. It's because you're doing it fast enough. It fools you.  Randy Kindig: Yep. Wow. Do you ever look back at these days, at those days, with amazement? As far as how far the industry has come?  Steve Leininger: Oh yeah. And, it's funny because you wouldn't, you couldn't probably, but you wouldn't start over again. I had to learn, I had to learn digital video. Actually the giant that I, whose shoulders I stood on there was the late Don Lancaster. He had a book called TV Typewriter Cookbook. And actually that came out a little bit later, but he had a TV typewriter series in Radio Electronics Magazine. And basically alphanumeric display. If you think about it, just the glass teletype, the keyboard display and a serial interface at the time that the RadioShack computer came out was selling for 999. Another 400 on top of what we were selling the whole computer for. Because we had a microprocessor in there. We didn't have a whole lot of options. We didn't have a whole lot of fluff. In fact Motorola said, send this to your schematics and your parts list and let's see if we can minimize your circuit. And after two weeks they sent it back. He said, you did a pretty good job here. . .  Randy Kindig: Okay. Huh. You still stay in touch with people at Tandy?  Steve Leininger: A few of them. It's actually been more lately. Because it's almost more interesting now. It's like the, I don't know whatever happened to Atwater and Kent, of the Atwater Kent radio. But, that's an old school radio that now you've got people that rebuild them and got them all polished up and all this kind of stuff. But for a while they ended up in the dump. I'm sure, there are some trash 80s that ended up in the trash.  Randy Kindig: I'm sure.  Steve Leininger: Yeah but I've gotten rid of lots of PCs that don't meet my needs anymore, right? Randy Kindig: Sure. Yeah, we all have, somewhere along the way. It seemed like you were really quiet there for a long time and that you were difficult to get in contact with. Steve Leininger: I wasn't really that difficult. I didn't maintain a social media presence on the thing, but things that I had my own consulting company for quite a while. I actually came back to Radio Shack two more times after I left. One was to come back as a technologist there. The politics still didn't work out well. Then I came back as a contractor to help them with some of their online things. I actually had a website called Steve's Workbench. Steve Leininger: And you can find it on the Internet Archive. The Wayback Machine. And it had some basic stamp projects. And we were going to do all sorts of other things. But I managed to upset the people at RadioShack. com. They didn't have a big sense of humor about someone being critical about the products that they'd selected. And I, I did a... I was going to start doing product reviews on the kits, how easy it was to solder, whether it was a good value for the money and all that kind of stuff. And I gave a pretty honest review on it. And Radio Shack didn't appreciate the power of an honest review. It's what makes Amazon what it is, right? You go in there and if there's something that's got just two stars on the reviews, Yeah, you really got to know what you're doing if you're going to buy the thing, right? And if you see something that's got a bunch of one star and a bunch of five star reviews Yeah, someone's probably aalting the reference at the top end. And so I mean they had such a fit that when they changed platforms For RadioShack. com, they didn't take Steve's Workbench with it And I basically lost that position. Radio Shack should own the makerspace business right now. They at one time, one time I suggested, you ought to take a look at buying Digikey or maybe Mouser. Mouser was right down the street from us. They already had their hands into Allied, but these other two were doing stuff, more consumer oriented, but they didn't. They were making, they were flush with money from selling cell phone contracts. And they thought that was the way of the future until the cell phone companies started reeling that back in. At a certain point, you don't want to be paying your 5 percent or 10 percent royalty to Radio Shack for just signing someone up.  Randy Kindig: Yeah. Okay. I didn't realize you had ever gone back and worked for them again.  Steve Leininger: Yeah, twice,  Randy Kindig: and so I'm curious, did you meet any other famous figures in the microcomputer revolution while you were working at Tandy?  Steve Leininger: At Tandy, let's see.  Randy Kindig: I'm just curious.  Steve Leininger: Yeah, Bill Gates, of course. I went out when we were working on level two BASIC. And Bill Gates I think was probably a hundred- thousand- aire at that time. And, working in a, thhey had a floor in a bank building in Seattle. He took me to the basement of his dad's law firm, and we had drinks there, and I went out to his house on the lake. This was not the big house. I've never been there. It was a big house on the lake, but it wasn't the one That he built later on. So I knew him early on run across Forest Mims a couple times. And of course, he's the shoulders upon which a lot of electronic talent was built and some of the stuff is lost. Jameco is actually bringing him back as a… Jameco is a kinda like a Radio Shack store online. It's yeah it is, it's not as robust as DigiKey or Bower, but they've held their roots.  Someone I've not met Lady Ada from Adafruit would be fun.  Randy Kindig: Yeah. Would, yeah.  Steve Leininger: I, that, that's another thing that, if we had something along those lines, that would have been cool, but the buyers weren't up, up to the task and they when you don't want criticism at a certain point you've got to quit doing things if you don't want to be criticized.  Randy Kindig: Sure. When you finally got the Model 1 rolled out and you saw the tremendous interest, were you surprised in the interest that it garnered?  Steve Leininger: I wasn't. I wasn't. In fact, there's a quote of me. Me and John Roach had a discussion on how many of these do you think we could sell? And, this is actually quoted in his obituary on the, in the Wall Street Journal. I, Mr. Tandy said you could build 3, 500 of these because we've got 3, 500 stores and we can use them in the inventory. And to take inventory. And John Roach thought maybe we could sell, up to 5, 000 of these things in the first year. And I said, oh no, I think we could sell 50, 000. To which he said, horseshit. Just like that. And that, now I quoted that to the Wall Street Journal, and they put that in his obituary. Yeah I don't know how many times that word shows up in the Wall Street Journal, but if you search their files you'll find that it was me quoting John Roach. So … Randy Kindig: I'll have to, I'll have to look for that, yeah, that's funny. So you were not surprised by the interest,  Steve Leininger: no, it, part of it was I knew the leverage of the stores I'd been working, when we introduced the thing I'd been working for the company for just over a year. Think about that. And it wasn't until just before probably, it was probably September or October when Don and I agreed on the specs. I'd keep writing it up, and he'd look at it. Don actually suggested that, demanded, he doesn't, in a, but in a good natured way, he made a good case for it, that I have, in addition to the cassette interface on there, that I have a way to read and write data. Because if you're going to do an accounting program, you got to be able to read and write data. I actually figured out a way to do that. There were a couple other things. John Roach really wanted blinking lights on the thing. And my mechanical, the mechanical designer, there said that's going to cost more money to put the LEDs in there. What are you going to do with them? And, Mr. Roach was, you know, familiar with the IBM probably the 360 by then? Anyway. The mainframes. Yeah, mainframes always had blinking lights on them.  Randy Kindig: Exactly.  Steve Leininger: And since it's a computer, it should have blinking lights. And Larry said, Larry the mechanical guy said what are you going to do with them? I said, I can't, I said I could put stuff up there, It's… Randy Kindig: What are they going to indicate?  Steve Leininger: Yeah. And then, he said, I'll tell you what, I'm going to make the case without holes for the lights and just don't worry about it. That was the end of the discussion. Mr. Roach was probably a little disappointed, but yeah, no one else had them,  Randy Kindig: it's funny to think that you'd have blinking lights on a microcomputer like that. Yeah. Yeah. Is there any aspect of the Model one development you would do differently if you were doing it today?  Steve Leininger: Yeah, I would, I would've put the eighth memory chip in with the, with the video display so you get upper and lower case. Randy Kindig: Yeah, there you go. Okay.  Steve Leininger: Might've put buffers to the outside world. We had the, the microprocessor was buffered, but it was, it was very short distance off the connector there. Otherwise, there's not a whole lot I would have changed. Software could have been written a little better, but when one person's writing all the software the development system that I had was a Zilog development system. And 30 character percent a second. Decorator, line printer. The fact that I got it done is actually miracle stuff.  Randy Kindig: Yeah, and you got it done in a year, right?  Steve Leininger: And it was all written in assembly language. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got it all done in a year.  Randy Kindig: That's a good year's work. Steve Leininger: It is.  Randy Kindig: Building a computer from scratch, basically, and then getting it...  Steve Leininger: and back then we had to program EEPROMs. We didn't have flash memory. Okay. Didn't hardly have operating systems back then. Not that I was using one. There was something in the Zilog thing, but yeah we were so far ahead of things, we were developing a product rather than a computer. And maybe that's the whole difference is that we had a product that you pull it up, plug it in, and it says these are TRS 80 and it wasn't the Model 1 until the Model 2 came out.  Randy Kindig: Yeah, exactly. It was just the TRS 80. Yeah. So I have to know, do you have any of the old hardware? Steve Leininger: I've got a Model 1. I don't use it except for demonstrations now. I actually have two. I've got one that works and one that's probably got a broken keyboard connector from taking it out of the case and holding it up too many times.  Randy Kindig: Were these prototypes or anything?  Steve Leininger: They are non serial production units. I've got the, I've got a prototype ROM board that's got the original integer basic that I wrote. I don't have the video boards and all that kind of stuff that went with it when we did the original demonstration. Let's see we had four wire wrapped, completely wire wrapped industrial wire wrapped versions that we used for prototyping the software. One went to David Lein, who wrote the book that came with the thing, the basic book. One I had at my desk and there were two others. Yeah. And they got rid of all of those. So a cautionary tale is if you do something in the future where you've got that prototype that was put together in Tupperware containers or held together with duct tape, you need to at least take pictures of it. And you might want to keep one aside. If it turns out to be something like the Apple III, you can probably get rid of all that stuff. If it turns out to be something like the Apple II, The RadioShack computer, the Commodore PET, you really ought to, enshrine that. The original iPhone. Apple did stuff that was, what was it, can't remember what it was. They had a they had a thing not unlike the... 3Com ended up getting them. Anyway the hand of the PDAs, no one knows what a Personal Oh, digital assistant. Yeah. Yeah. We call that a, we call that a phone ...  Randy Kindig: Palm Pilot. Yeah.  Steve Leininger: Yeah. Palm Pilot. That's the one. Yeah. I've got a couple of those. I've got three model 100's. I've got one of the early… Randy Kindig: Did you work on the 100s? Steve Leininger: I used it, but I didn't work on it. The design. No. Okay. That was an NEC product with Radio Shack skins on it.  Randy Kindig: Oh, that's right. That's right.  Steve Leininger: Kay Nishi was the big mover on that. Yeah. Let's see I've got an Altair and an ASR 33 Teletype. Yeah, we're talking about maybe the computer's grandfather, right? I've had a whole bunch of other stuff. I've probably had 40 other computers that I don't have anymore. I am gravitating towards mechanical music devices, big music boxes, that kind of stuff.  Randy Kindig: Oh, okay. Cool. Interesting. Steve, that's all the questions I had prepared. Steve Leininger: Okay.  Randy Kindig: Is there anything I should have asked about that?  Steve Leininger: Oh my,  Randy Kindig: anything you'd want to say?  Steve Leininger: Yeah, I, I've given talks before on how do you innovate? How do you become, this is pioneering kinds of stuff. So you really have to have that vision, man. The vision, I can't exactly say where the vision comes from, but being dyslexic for me has been a gift. Okay and this is something I tell grade school and middle school students that, some people are out there saying I, I can't do that because, it's just too much stuff or my brain is cluttered. Cluttered desk is the sign of a cluttered mind, what's an empty desk the sign of? Embrace the clutter. Learn a lot of different things. Do what you're passionate about. Be willing to. support your arguments, don't just get angry if someone doesn't think the way you do, explain why you're doing it that way. And sometimes it's a matter of they just don't like it or they don't have the vision. The ones that don't have the vision, they never, they may never have the vision. I've quit companies because of people like that. But When you've got the vision and can take it off in your direction, it could just end up as being art. And I shouldn't say just art, art can be an amazing thing. And that behind these walls here, we've got a pinball machine and gaming conference going on. And it is nutcase. But is there stuff out there you look at and say, Oh, wow. Yeah. And I do too. Keep it a while going. Randy Kindig: Very cool. All right. That's a great stopping point, I think. All right. I really appreciate it, Steve taking the time to talk with us today.  Steve Leininger: Thanks, Randy.  

Echamos un vistazo por el retrovisor para ofrecerte una sesión con algunos de nuestros discos favoritos editados en lo que llevamos de este 2024.(Foto del podcast; The Limboos)Playlist;(sintonía) THE FUZILLIS “Pickle swap”MFC CHICKEN “Bear size skeeters”THE ODDBALLS “El rayo”QUÉ DIOS TE LO PAGUE “Deudas menores”THE UNKNOWNS “Heart in two”MARTIN SAVAGE and THE JIGGERZ “Hole in my heart”F.A.N.T.A. “Thelma y Louise”OUTTACONTROLLER “Just a scratch”THE SCANERS “Zero gravity”THE REFLECTORS “What’s taking so long”THE HILLBILLY MOON EXPLOSION “Sometimes late at night”THE LAZY TONES “My blame”THE LIMBOOS “Dark is the night”WESLEY FULLER “Alamein Line”THE MOCKS One more chance”THE WYLDE TRYFLES “Can get enough of your love”THE MAGIC MUSHROOMS “Pain”THE KILL DEVIL HILLS “The day dinosaurs died”Escuchar audio

Justin is back in the studio this week with his childhood friend and longtime podcast sponsor Ryan Walker of Wanchese Off Road Diesel Performance of Kill Devil Hills. Ryan is a very generous, kind and giving person. He and Justin talk about his childhood dream of owning his autoshop and the types of work he performs at his garage in KDH! Outer Banks This Week Podcast Presented by:Kelly's AutomotiveSponsored by:Stripers Bar & GrilleOBX Boat CompanyWanchese Marina and Landing GrillMiss Oregon Inlet IIH2OBX WaterparkSea Chef Dockside Kitchen

IN THIS EPISODE: In the late 1950s, the Tuck family of Alabama found themselves at the center of a terrifying ordeal as mysterious fires spontaneously erupted in their home. Despite their best efforts to escape the flames, the fiery phenomenon followed them from one residence to another, consuming their possessions and leaving them homeless. We'll look at this case and other similar ones where the seeming explanation is nothing short of paranormal. (Paranormal Flames) *** In the sleepy Kentish hamlet of Charing, a centuries-old mystery unfolds every May Day. As the clock strikes midnight, ghostly children emerge from their moss-encrusted graves, their ethereal feet dancing to the silent fiddle's tune. It's all part of the "Night of the Dancing Feet." (Dancing After Death) *** Before his wife's murder in June 2009, Eli Weaver had numerous affairs with women he met through online dating sites, where he called himself an "Amish Stud." But only one mistress was willing to kill for him. (Eli Weaver, Amish Stud and Murderer) *** The American West evokes iconic images often seen in movies: bold adventures, noon shootouts, resolute sheriffs and marshals maintaining order, and the cavalry arriving just in time. However, the history of the Wild West, replete with myths and stereotypes, presents a more complex and sometimes disturbing reality about justice in that era. (Wild West Justice) *** On the morning of July 13, 1997, the body of Denise Johnson was discovered inside her burning childhood home in Kill Devil Hills, NC. Emergency responders quickly realized they weren't dealing with a simple arson, but a murder as well.  Now, more than two decades later, the case remains unsolved. (The Unsolved Murder of Denise Johnson) *** Hachishakusama, often referred to as the "Japanese Slender Man," is a haunting figure from Japanese urban legends that rivals the terror of her American counterpart. While the Slender Man has gained a cult-like following and has even inspired real-life horror stories, Hachishakusama's tale is equally spine-chilling and capable of keeping you up at night. (The Japanese Slender Man)YOUTUBE TIME STAMPS…00:00:00.000 = Introduction/Show Open00:05:20.724 = Paranormal Flames00:26:22.890 = The Unsolved Murder of Denise Johnson00:40:03.507 = Dancing After Death (Night Of The Dancing Feet)00:48:36.820 = Wild West Justice00:58:36.687 = Eli Weaver, Amish Stud and Murderer01:08:23.238 = The Japanese Slender ManSOURCES AND REFERENCES FROM THE EPISODE…BOOK: “Ablaze – The Mysterious Fires of Spontaneous Human Combustion” by Larry E. Arnold: https://amzn.to/3UqdhmzBOOK: “A Killing In Amish Country” by Gregg Olsen and Rebecca Morris: https://amzn.to/44wghmb“Paranormal Flames” source: Marcus Lowth at UFO Insight: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/4eb8xht2“The Unsolved Murder of Denise Johnson” source: Jacob Shelton at Ranker: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/2p8t3b7p“Dancing After Death” by Ken DaSilva-Hill submitted directly to Weird Darkness and used with permission“Wild West Justice” source: Christy Box at Weird History: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/2p8db9vj“Eli Weaver, Amish Stud and Murderer” source: Hannah Reilly Holtz at AllThatsInteresting.com:https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/4jfmybjh“The Japanese Slender Man” source: Curry L Mitchell at ListVerse: https://weirddarkness.tiny.us/bdd7fthzWeird Darkness theme by Alibi Music Library. = = = = =(Over time links seen above may become invalid, disappear, or have different content. I always make sure to give authors credit for the material I use whenever possible. If I somehow overlooked doing so for a story, or if a credit is incorrect, please let me know and I will rectify it in these show notes immediately. Some links included above may benefit me financially through qualifying purchases.)= = = = ="I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness." — John 12:46= = = = =WeirdDarkness® is a registered trademark. Copyright ©2024, Weird Darkness.= = = = =Originally aired: May 01, 2024PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT: https://weirddarkness.com/paranormal-flames/

Festival Rude Cat con citas en Madrid (11 de abril), Gasteiz (12 de abril) y Barcelona (13 de abril). Una fiesta de sonidos jamaicanos en donde participan los belgas The Utopians, los estadounidenses The Bandulus y la leyenda del ska 2tone Bad Manners. Entre las novedades suenan también adelantos de los próximos discos de Johnny Casino, La Luz o The Woggles. Y ojo a la gira de Eli “Paperboy” Reed.(Foto del podcast; Johnny Casino)Playlist;JOHNNY CASINO “Mr Fastgun” (adelanto del álbum “High time”)THE KILL DEVIL HILLS “This is Karrakatta” (Matango, 2024)LA LUZ “Poppies” (adelanto del álbum “News of the universe”)THE WYLDE TRYFLES “Gonna be a change” (Outta tyme, 2024)THE BROOMS “Fast City” (Freakin’ out, 2024)THE WOGGLES “Hole in my heart” (adelanto del álbum “Time has come”)THE UTOPIANS “How the world turns” (Look around you, 2024)THE BANDULUS “Only always” (Tell like it is, 2024)BAD MANNERS “Sally Brown” (Return of the ugly, 1989)BAD MANNERS “My girl lollipop” (Forging ahead, 1982)Versión y Original; BARBIE GAYE “My boy lollipop” (1956)ELI PAPERBOY REED “Bad girl” (Hits and misses, 2023)TITO RAMIREZ “Lluvia púrpura” (El Prince, 2023)Escuchar audio

Sesión de viernes con algunas de las canciones favoritas que hemos presentado a lo largo de este mes de marzo.(Foto del podcast por Anete Lapsa; Nick Saloman de The Bevis Frond)Playlist;KEITH RICHARDS “I’m waiting for the man”THE BEVIS FROND “Here for the other one”THE KILL DEVIL HILLS “The day dinosaurs died”THE CAEZARS “Back in the jungle”MFC CHICKEN “Bear size skeeters”ANNA DUKKE “My lifeline”THE CABRIANS “Anarchy”CHUCO y SUS CARRUCHAS “Cumbia del perro viejo”THE WYLDE TRIFLES “I can’t get enough of your love”THEN REFLECTORS “All the way down”OUTTACONTROLLER “Just a scratch”QUÉ DIOS TE LO PAGUE “Deudas menores”STAR MAFIA BOY “Ya solo queda pelear”SIOUXIE and THE SKUNKS “Crispy”THE MELLOWS “Satisfy your soul”FAST EDDY “Grey day”Escuchar audio

Arranca la gira de The Streetwalkin’ Cheetahs, la banda de Los Ángeles que hace tres décadas enarboló la bandera del high energy punk’n’roll y vive ahora una segunda juventud. Llegan novedades desde Oceanía; nuevos discos de los australianos The Kill Devil Hills y los neozelandeses The Cavemen. Y los garageros alemanes The Satelliters lanzan un interesante álbum de canciones casi perdidas.Playlist;THE STREETWALKIN' CHEETAHS “Kick me down” (The red tape diaries, 2004)THE STREETWALKIN' CHEETAHS “Crazy operator” (Crazy operator EP, 2024)DENIZ TEK “Searching” (Collection Vol. 3; Outside, 2024)THE KILL DEVIL HILLS “The day dinosaurs died” (Matango!, 2024)HARD-ONS “Miserable” (single, 2024)THE CAVEMEN “Without you” (Cash 4 scrap, 2024)THE GOOD KIDS “Lean in” (single, 2024)DOCTOR EXPLOSION “Mamma Leggy” (single, 2023)THE WYLD TRYFLES “I can’t get enough of your love” (Outta tyme, 2024)THE SATELLITERS “So many times” (A collection of nearly lost recordings, 2024)THE SATELLITERS “Don’t say no” (A collection of nearly lost recordings, 2024)Versión y original; THE ORACLE “Don’t say no” (1967)SHANNON and THE CLAMS “Real or magic” (adelanto del álbum “The moon is in the wrong place”)LA LUZ “Strange world” (adelanto del álbum “News of the universe”)Escuchar audio

“Lived Through That” is the companion podcast to my book where I look at influential musicians of the 80s and 90s and where they are today. On this podcast, we'll delve deeper into a single pivotal moment in the lives of some of the artists I feature in that book, as well as other artists I love and admire. The stories they tell are open, honest, and inspiring. This week, we're shifting gears a bit with our guest Jane Savidge. Yes, there was a time when she was in a band called Kill Devil Hills, but ultimately she started a PR company called Savage & Best which promoted a slew of the biggest British bands of the 90s, including Suede, Pulp, Elastica, and so many others. There's even a legend that Jane coined the phrase “Britpop.” Her first book, Lunch With The Wild Frontiers: A History Of Britpop And Excess in 13 and a 1/2 Chapters, was a fantastic read. Her second book, Here They Come With Their Make Up On: Suede, Coming Up And More Adventures Beyond The Wild Frontiers, was released in 2022 and her third book on Pulp's “This is Hardcore” will be released March 7th. It's part of the brilliant 33 1/3 series from Bloomsbury Press.   You can order hernew book, "Pulp's This Is Hardcore" here. Musical credits: "Shelftop Speech" from Blue Dot Sessions Be sure to look out for my books, "Lived Through That" and "80s Redux" where ever you buy your books! You can find out more about my work and the 80s and 90s books at my website ⁠here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We celebrate the 120th anniversary of the first machine-powered, human-controlled flight on December 17, 1903 by Wilbur and Orville Wright. While today there is a national park at Kill Devil Hills in the Outer Banks in North Carolina, commemorating the event … official acknowledgement was a long time coming. Despite the thumbnail picture you see here and 5 eye witnesses, for at least 5 years the claim of their first flight was disputed or ignored by government officials, the media, and the public. And at least 6 other parties claimed simultaneously that it was THEY that had the REAL first flight. How come? Was 12/17 actually the first flight? We are joined by our 21 month co-host Ellie for a rare encore appearance in order to get to the bottom of this apparent scandal. Please reach out to us at contact@scandalsheetpod.com or find us on Facebook as 'Scandal Sheet' or on X (formerly twitter) at @scandal_sheet. We'd love to hear from you.

We celebrate the 120th anniversary of the first machine-powered, human-controlled flight on December 17, 1903 by Wilbur and Orville Wright. While today there is a national park at Kill Devil Hills in the Outer Banks in North Carolina, commemorating the event … official acknowledgement was a long time coming. Despite the thumbnail picture you see here and 5 eye witnesses, for at least 5 years the claim of their first flight was disputed or ignored by government officials, the media, and the public. And at least 6 other parties claimed simultaneously that it was THEY that had the REAL first flight. How come? Was 12/17 actually the first flight? We are joined by our 21 month co-host Ellie for a rare encore appearance in order to get to the bottom of this apparent scandal. Please reach out to us at contact@scandalsheetpod.com or find us on Facebook as 'Scandal Sheet' or on X (formerly twitter) at @scandal_sheet. We'd love to hear from you.

Legendary Type O Negative drummer Johnny Kelly discusses some milestones in Type O's world as well as celebrates the new album from Kill Devil Hill, 'Seas of Oblivion.'

Welcome back to another Super Cool Radio interview! We have a great guest joining us for this interview. Matt Snell is the former bassist for Five Finger Death Punch and the current bassist for Unveil The Strength, Invidia, and Kill Devil Hill. On September 1st, Unveil The Strength released a new single entitled Foundations. In this interview, hear Matt discuss writing and recording Foundations, joining Kill Devil Hill, tattoos, touring, the future plans for Unveil The Strength and Kill Devil Hill, and so much more! SCR and Matthew Thomas would like to thank Matt Snell for the great interview. Thank you to Shauna O'Donnell for making this interview possible. Links to check out: Unveil The Strength Website: Unveil The Strength Unveil The Strength on Spotify: Unveil The Strength | Spotify Unveil The Strength Facebook page: Facebook Kill Devil Hill on Spotify: Kill Devil Hill | Spotify Kill Devil Hill Facebook page: Facebook Promo pictures courtesy of Shauna O'Donnell Intro and outro music composed by Jonny Neville If you like this video, please consider heading over to our merch store and supporting us. Your support means so much! Link: Super Cool Radio's Artist Shop | Featuring custom t-shirts, prints, and more (threadless.com) --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/supercoolradio/support

Red and Jerry talk with Kill Devil Hill guitarist Mark Zavon about their new release "Seas Of Oblivion".

Rich Embury's R3TROGR4D3 returns to CRANK IT LOUD with more brand NEW Hard Rock and Heavy Metal from P.O.D. (Feat. Randy Blythe) / Florence Black / Ryujin (Feat. Matthew K. Heafy) / Danko Jones / Baroness / Mike Milan Dedic / Flat Black / Kill Devil Hill / Royal Thunder / Rev Theory / Annisokay […]

Kill Devil Hill guitarist Mark Zavon zoomed in to talk about their new album "Seas Of Oblivion" (out 9/20/23) and their headline tour. Here's what we talked about: New album "Seas Of Oblivion" (0-7) new line up (7-8) Headline tour (8-10) "Pharmaceutical Sunshine" (10-15) Pantera and Rex Brown (15-19) Mandatory Metallica (19-end)

KILL DEVIL HILL guitarist Mark Zavon and OCTOBER NOIR frontman Tom Noir join us on this week's edition of The Loaded Radio Podcast KILL DEVIL HILL is set to unveil its third album, "Seas Of Oblivion," on September 20th. This LP, meticulously crafted by engineer Chris Collier, who handled production, engineering, mixing, and mastering duties, seamlessly blends classic hard rock with elements of metal. The result is a musical journey that bridges the gap between contemporary and classic metal, reminiscent of iconic bands like SOUNDGARDEN and ALICE IN CHAINS. With "Seas Of Oblivion," KILL DEVIL HILL demonstrates its versatility, fearlessly experimenting with various styles, and pushing the boundaries of expectations to deliver a fresh and exhilarating experience for their devoted fans. Prior to the album's release, KILL DEVIL HILL has already treated fans to a taste of what's to come with the launch of four singles: "Playing With Fire," "Blood In The Water," "You Can't Kill Me California," and "Before The Devil Knows." Formed in 2011 by legendary drummer Vinny Appice (formerly of BLACK SABBATH and DIO) and bassist Rex Brown (PANTERA), KILL DEVIL HILL has undergone a couple of lineup changes, yet continues with a pummeling vengeance. The band's current roster includes Johnny Kelly (formerly of TYPE O NEGATIVE) on drums, Zavon on guitar, Dewey Bragg on vocals, and Matt Snell (formerly of FIVE FINGER DEATH PUNCH) on bass. In the podcast, Mark discusses the evolution of KILL DEVIL HILL, the band's new additions, his love for Wolfgang Van Halen and much more. Hailing from Pensacola, Florida, OCTOBER NOIR emerged onto the music scene in 2016 as a gothic/doom metal ensemble. Since their inception, they have crafted and shared their unique sonic vision through three full-length albums and an impressive collection of nine stand-alone singles. The brainchild of Tom Noir, OCTOBER NOIR was conceived in late 2016, and their inaugural album, "The Haunting and the Powerful," saw the light of day on October 19, 2017. Following the album's release, Tom Noir welcomed talented musicians into the fold for their live performances. Drummer Daniel "Stickz" Bryant, guitarist Troy Lambert, and keyboardist Jackie "Jaxxx" Daniel added depth and energy to the band's live shows. In 2018, OCTOBER NOIR expanded their repertoire by releasing two remarkable singles, both of which were captivating covers. "Pictures of Matchstick Men (RIPeter)," a reinterpretation of the classic by STATUS QUO and TYPE O NEGATIVE, graced listeners' ears on April 14, 2018. Subsequently, on July 5, 2018, they offered their rendition of "Lips like Sugar," originally by ECHO & THE BUNNYMEN, showcasing their versatility and creative prowess. In the second portion of the podcast, Tom discusses the band's influence, the new album "Letters To Existence", his use of torture devices and more. Tune in via the player below or wherever you get your podcasts.

Mark Zavon of Kill Devil Hill joins the podcast to talk about Kill Devil Hill's return with their third album entitled Seas of Oblivion via Legend Recordings. Mark also talks about Kill Devil Hill new lineup, re recording songs from 2013 for the album with a few new songs, working with producer Chris Collier and vocalist Dewey Bragg's strong vocals on the album. Also check out singles “Blood in the Water”, “You Can't Kill Me California”,  “Before The Devil Knows” and “Playing With Fire”.

Prepare yourself for a journey through the captivating state of North Carolina as we unveil the top ten must-visit destinations for July 2023. Whether you're a local resident seeking new adventures or planning a visit to the state, this series serves as your ultimate guide to the most captivating experiences that await you. North Carolina's diverse offerings, from breathtaking mountain landscapes to picturesque coastal towns, promise a plethora of activities for everyone to enjoy. So, are you ready to discover the 10 Best Things To Do in North Carolina in July 2023? Let's dive right in and embark on an unforgettable exploration of this remarkable state.1. Great Smoky Mountains National Park2. Biltmore Estate in Asheville3. Visit any of the stunning low-key islands4. Wright Kite Festival in Kill Devil Hills - 7/14 to 7/155. Summertime Brews Festival in Greensboro - 7/226. Dorothea Dix Park Sunflowers in Raleigh7. North Carolina Watermelon Festival in Fair Bluff - 7/298. Peach Week in the Sandhills - 7/13 to 7/229. Wilkes Comic Con - 7/1510. Gold Rush Arts & Craft Festival - 7/22For the full breakdown of all of these events, including when and where to go, check out our feature article on OnlyInYourState: The 10 Best Things To Do In North Carolina In July 2023.

Talk about risky! This time around, the two cousins are being left alone to see what mischief they can get up to. Good thing there'll be an adult in the room.  Mark Ratterman and Larry Herrin are joined by our guest, NASA's Dr. Mary K. Kaiser, to discuss the omnipresent issue of space debris. We are “flexing” once again from our usual format to bring you a wide-ranging discussion that will cover how scientists objectively calculate risk versus subjective risk perception; dealing with Low-Probability/High-Consequence Risks; and the realities of basic human nature. How does all this relate to the issue of space debris and the world's willingness to do something about it? We're about to find out! As mentioned, our guest for this discussion is Dr. Mary K. Kaiser. Dr. Kaiser spent 30 years as a research psychologist in the Human Systems Integration Division at NASA Ames Research Center. She now serves as a consultant to the Human Factors Technical Discipline Team at the NASA Engineering and Safety Center (NESC). This fascinating scientist spends her days worrying about things as diverse as subjective risk perception and innovative spacecraft instrument display technologies. She has authored or co-authored dozens of scientific papers, holds two patents, and is the self-published author of a novel, “The Muse of Kill Devil Hills,” available now on Amazon.  Then, see and hear Dr. Kaiser's NASA NESC Academy presentation on “Miserable Risk Estimation: "Managing" Low-Probability, High-Consequence Risks" here. If you want to hear even more about Dr. Kaiser's very interesting career, keep listening after the main podcast for a big Easter egg's worth of conversation we left there for you! Let us know what you think of our new “flexible” format and your thoughts on this week's show. You can always reach us at mailbag@TalkingSpaceOnline.com . Show recorded 5-15-2023. Host: Larry Herrin Panelists: Mark Ratterman Podcast Editor: Larry Herrin Gene Mikulka, Sawyer Rosenstein and Dr. Kat Robison will be back.

On this episode Brian is joined by Kevin from Speedfreak.Chicago Metal quartet Speedfreak is an institution in the city's hard rock and metal scene. With a sound that ranges from combative thrash riffs to boozy and bluesy sludge grooves, Speedfreak promises to be the cause of your next hangover. Lauded by Dee Snider as “having great songs” and “f*cking fearless”, the Chicago four-piece has a resume to match their intensity, having played at top notch venues such as Metro, Double Door, Reggies, Chop Shop and The Forge and opened for acts like Helmet, Crowbar, Mothership, Texas Hippie Coalition, Raven, Kill Devil Hill, and Shadows Fall.Find Speedfreak here:https://www.facebook.com/speedfreakrock/https://www.instagram.com/speedfreakmetal/https://twitter.com/SpeedfreakMetalhttps://www.tiktok.com/@speedfreakmetal1https://www.youtube.com/@speedfreakmetal891Find CTMU here:https://linktr.ee/ConcertsthatmadeusNewsletter: https://concertsthatmadeus.aweb.page/p/f065707b-2e34-4268-8e73-94f12bd2e938If you would like to support the show you can do so by rating/reviewing us on Itunes and Spotify or by signing up at https://www.patreon.com/ConcertsthatmadeusSave 10% on Band Builder Academy membership by following this link https://bandbuilderacademy.com/Brian_Concerts/join and using promo code "concerts" at signup. Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/concerts-that-made-us. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Carolyn Fay Booth Archer, 90, of Henrico and formerly Kill Devil Hills, passed away on April 28, 2023. She is preceded in death by her husband of 49 years, David Archer; daughter, Denise Beck; parents, Louise and Reese Booth; brothers, Garland and Dennis Booth. She is survived by her daughter, Dawn Jessee (Mike Quinn); Granddaughters, Carrie Beck and Jennie Whitaker (Clay); great grandsons, Christian Beck, Gabriel Beck, and Rylan Whitaker; great-great grandson, River Beck. Carolyn was a loving and generous person, always helping family in need. She loved painting in oils and acrylics, winning several ribbons for her work. She...Article LinkSupport the show

“Doomsday Devices” was one of the last songs written for the Fast Lane Livin' album. It's a song about living in the moment and the temptations people all deal with every single day. Speedfreak says, "Even though you know you might make some bad decisions along the way, you only live once. You're not getting any younger so go for it! It's about living every day like it could be your last with no regrets. It's the age old saying that it's better to regret something you HAVE done than something you HAVEN'T."The music video for “Doomsday Devices,” directed by Zane Rerek, made the rounds on the film festival circuit and won the award for Best Metal Music Video at the Audio Shoot International Musician Video & Film Festival in Wexford, Ireland as well as being selected at over a dozen other fests including an official nomination at Cannes Shorts.Chicago Metal quartet Speedfreak is an institution in the city's hard rock and metal scene. With a sound that ranges from combative thrash riffs to boozy and bluesy sludge grooves, Speedfreak promises to be the cause of your next hangover. Lauded by Dee Snider as “having great songs” and “f*cking fearless”, the Chicago four-piece has a resume to match their intensity, having played at top notch venues such as Metro, Double Door, Reggies, Chop Shop and The Forge and opened for acts like Helmet, Crowbar, Mothership, Texas Hippie Coalition, Raven, Kill Devil Hill, and Shadows Fall.

The Wright brothers, Orville Wright (August 19, 1871 – January 30, 1948) and Wilbur Wright (April 16, 1867 – May 30, 1912),[a] were American aviation pioneers generally credited[3][4][5] with inventing, building, and flying the world's first successful motor-operated airplane. They made the first controlled, sustained flight of a powered, heavier-than-air aircraft with the Wright Flyer on December 17, 1903, 4 mi (6 km) south of Kitty Hawk, North Carolina, at what is now known as Kill Devil Hills. The brothers were also the first to invent aircraft controls that made fixed-wing powered flight possible. Our theme song was written and performed by Anna Bosnick. If you'd like to support the show on a per episode basis, you can find our Patreon page here.  Be sure to check our website for more details.

Episode: 2551 In which Daniels, Dough, Etheridge, Brinkley and Moore watch the Wright Brother's first flight.  Today, we witness history.

Descriptio CONTENT BEGINS AT - 4:00 In this episode I am going to go over two unsolved murders in North Carolina. The first is Denise Johnson of Kill Devil Hills. This case was suggested by Gidge from Missouri. The second case is the murder of Debbie Wolfe of Fayetteville. As always, if you like the show, then don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review. You can check out the links below for extra content about this episode. SOURCES: All That Is Interesting The Coastland Times Oxygen.com Ranker The Fay Observer Dr. Maurice Godwin The Grunge The Mary Word PICTURES: Denise Johnson Debbie Wolfe

Episode: 2417 Kill Devil Hill: the texture of the Wright Brothers' accomplishment.  Today, we watch invention unfolding.

The small coastal town of Kill Devil Hills, North Carolina will forever be changed after the discovery of Denise Johnson's body on July 13, 1997. The police had high hopes of solving the case quickly but 25 years later, we're still searching for answers as to who killed her and set the house on fire.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week we have the special treat of hearing from Jason Woolard (brother of Chris and Minister at Sonrise Church of Christ in Kill Devil Hills, NC). What impacts our perception of truth? How can we go about filtering through all the noise to hear what it is that God wants us to know the most. 

As always on each and every Thursday, we dish it up with Dr. Deborah Stroman who discusses the realignment of the ACC scheduling in Football. Since Reese and K-Mac are heading to the Outer Banks to Kill Devil Hills soon they gave Graham some homework, and asked him to research the best places to relax when on vacation in North Carolina. Also, discussions on what NBA team could sign Bradley Beal during free agency. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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How to become a trusted mentor for top entrepreneurs and real estate professionals in the world? Greg Dickerson has banked on his practical experiences to build and sell companies and invest in real estate, putting it all together in his company, Dickerson International, which offers training, education, and coaching for many renowned investors and entrepreneurs globally. What makes everything that he's done impressive is that he did it even without a college degree. In today's episode, he will be talking about the alternative ways to learn aside from college education and how he used such ways to become one of the top mentors in the realm of real estate and entrepreneurship.    [00:01 - 03:05] Opening Segment Greg Dickerson chose to go to the Navy instead of college Here's the reason Greg shares the story of how he built and exited a business  [03:06 - 08:04] From Employee to Entrepreneur Here's how Greg shifted his mindset from employee to entrepreneur The difference between a manager and a leader This is the “hack” that Greg has tried to build his company Greg was able to convince the best people to work with him This is his secret [08:05 - 17:02] Real Estate Development Are you an aspiring real estate developer? Greg has some advice for you This is how Greg and his team find opportunities in the market These are the current risks in real estate development that investors should consider [17:03 - 17:44] Closing Segment Reach out to Greg Links below Final words Tweetable Quotes “The numbers are very important. If you don't know your numbers, you don't know your business.” - Greg Dickerson  “People really respond to the opportunity to create something that they spent their entire life doing, but never had a chance to build on their own.” - Greg Dickerson    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------   Email greg@gregdickerson.com to connect with Greg or follow him on LinkedIn. Visit Dickerson International to get access to coaching, education, and training for entrepreneurs and real estate investors.    Connect with me:   I love helping others place money outside of traditional investments that both diversify a strategy and provide solid predictable returns.     Facebook   LinkedIn   Like, subscribe, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, or whatever platform you listen on.  Thank you for tuning in!   Email me → sam@brickeninvestmentgroup.com Want to read the full show notes of the episode? Check it out below: Greg Dickerson  00:00 There are specific things that that individual is brought on board to do, and you measure that performance that all goes back to leading, delegating, motivating, managing employees correctly, providing clear direction, in no uncertain terms exactly what you expect. And when holding people accountable to the goals, measuring performance, and behavior, not personal, you know, so it's never measuring the person or you know, making things personal. It's always about the business. It's always about the performance, always about the behavior. And you set very specific goals, and you track those goals. And you help people hold themselves accountable to those goals, and you track your performance, and then they can share in the upside. So that's basically how that evolved and how that works.   Intro  00:39 Welcome to the How to Scale Commercial Real Estate Show. Whether you are an active or passive investor, we will teach you how to scale your real estate investing business into something big.   Sam Wilson  00:42 Greg Dickerson is a serial entrepreneur. He's a real estate developer. He's a coach, and also a mentor. Greg, welcome to the show.   Greg Dickerson  00:58 Hey, thanks for having me.   Sam Wilson  00:59 Hey, the pleasure is mine. Three questions I ask every guest who comes on the show. In 90 seconds or less, can you tell me where did you start? Where are you now? How did you get there?   Greg Dickerson  01:06 From a business standpoint or geography?   Sam Wilson  01:08 It's your 90 seconds.   Greg Dickerson  01:10 So I went in the Navy right out of high school, did not go to college, did four years in the Navy, did retail. And when I got out of the Navy, I worked in corporate restaurant industry for a little while for several years. So the Navy was ‘85, ‘89. And then always had a side business while I was working in restaurants doing construction, little odd jobs, building decks, fences, handyman work, whatever. In 1997, I moved to the Outer Banks of North Carolina, that's where flight originated. That's when the Wright brothers took off and Kill Devil Hills, North Carolina moved there in 1997. To open a restaurant, I got into construction instead, started a little remodeling handyman company. My first year did about 250,000 in sales. Seven years later, we were doing $30 million dollars, we were the largest, one of the largest builder developers there. I sold that company, started 12 other companies along the way, during that seven year time period, built them up, sold them off. And what I did was I reinvested all the profits into other development deals and just grew and scaled my development business, from single family residential to land to mixed-use commercial and on and on. So that's what I've been doing since 1997. Building and scaling, growing companies, starting building scaling, growing and exiting companies, doing real estate development deals, doing value add deals, and then coaching now, coaching and mentoring people all over the country, teaching them how to do the same thing.   Sam Wilson  02:24 What were some of the skills or some of the things you had to learn going from swinging a hammer to growing a business? Because that's a big mindset shift for a lot of people. And that's a hard bridge for some people to cross. How did you do that?   Greg Dickerson  02:37 Yeah, it is. And I literally started, just me my truck and my tools, you know, no employees, and then I hired another employee, then another one, and then just kind of grew and scaled from there. So yeah, very fortunate, I learned business and accounting in the military with retail. So I had some classes on doing the numbers. So the numbers are very important. You know, if you don't know your numbers, you don't know your business. So you got to know the numbers, then I got some really great training in the restaurant industry. So I learned how to lead, delegate, motivate. And I learned how to again, it was you know, restaurants are all about numbers squeezing a nickel out of a penny. So every dollar counts in the restaurant industry. That transfers well into real estate, and especially into development. And then that whole leadership thing, learning the difference between a manager and a leader, you have to know how to manage, but you also need to know how to lead, you need to know how to delegate, and you need to know how to recruit, hire, train, lead, delegate, motivate, put the right people in the right seats as you're growing an organization. And you have to be able to let go of that control and that ego and understand that none of us are as smart as all of us. And that there are better, smarter people, people out there. And then you and of course, even though I'm not formally classically educated, you know, in the college sense, I'm very self-educated. So I poured into myself, my entire career, I still do now every single day, you know, back in the day when it was cassette tapes, and then the CDs and then the 80 GB iPod, which I still have my 80 GB iPod, no music, none. It was all personal professional development stuff, business stuff. That's all I listened to. Now, of course, I'll play some music here and there. And I love music. I was a musician in high school. But you know, when it comes to what I spend my time on when I have spare time, that's making myself better, smarter, more capable in some way. So that's really the key. And then as you grow, what I did was I found people's I've never built a house before I've built houses. So what I did was I went and hired the best people from the best company that I wanted to be, come work with me, and build my organization with me. And for me, instead of trying to do it myself, I have no ego. I was never threatened by anybody who was better and smarter and more experienced than me. I brought them on my team, and I turned them loose to do their job. So that's how it works.   Sam Wilson  04:42 That's an intriguing kind of hack that you mentioned there. And even not having an ego. How do you convince someone to come work for you when they already have more skills, you know, they've been in the business longer. What's the bait you use to say hey, come work with me as opposed to staying where you are because you…    Greg Dickerson  05:00 You know, first of all, it's having a big vision and as being able to articulate that vision in a way that inspires others, so you inspire results out of others. Leaders inspire, right. And we're seeing a real-life example of that right now playing out on the world stage. So leaders inspire results out of others. So what I do is I created a vision of what I wanted to create, I wanted to create this building and development company, it was on the leading edge of technology that gave back to the community that provided a positive work environment for everybody. And the upside potential for that individual was I live in it, we were going to share profits, you know, those types of things. So basically, for the individuals that I was looking for, it was like, you had the ability to come, build a company the way you think it needed to be done to be an entrepreneur, to be self-employed under the umbrella of a corporation, so that you didn't have to take the risk and worry about the downside, but you got to share in all of the upside. So you know, what you find with a lot of people is, you know, a lot of people aren't satisfied or happy where they are, because they can't contribute. They can't write, have their ideas come to life, they're not allowed to do things outside the corporate box, and you know, checking the boxes that they're in. So I just looked for people that wanted a chance to build something special and unique. And not only that but just let them do it, let them make mistakes, let them do things, and build a company the way that they thought it should be done. And you know, people really respond to the opportunity to create something that they spent their entire life doing, but never had a chance to build on their own.   Sam Wilson  06:27 Right, but how do you structure that in such a way that you're not giving away the farm? You know, preemptively I mean, you're gonna bring somebody on and yet, while you know that may be performing in their current role, maybe they come and work for you and completely flounder? How do you protect for that downside risk for you as the one bringing them on and giving up a slice of equity?   Greg Dickerson  06:45 Well, you know, you're always taking a risk on people. But you know, ideally, you try to discern through the process, whether they're competent or not, you're gonna know based on their track record, where they come from, and things like that, in terms of talking to them, and how they handle things, how they deal with people and situations. But at the end of the day, everybody that ever came to work with me, it was a trial basis, and you started upfront with, “Hey, this is a trial basis, this may or may not be a good fit for you, may or may not be a good fit for us, but we're gonna try it, we're gonna see what happens.” And then there's performance standards and benchmarks, right? So now there are specific things that individual is brought on board to do. And you measure that performance that all goes back to leading, delegating, motivating, managing employees correctly, providing clear direction, in no uncertain terms, exactly what you expect. And when holding people accountable to the goals, measuring performance, and behavior, not personal, you know, so it's never measuring the person or you know, making things personal. It's always about the business. It's always about the performance, always about the behavior. And you set very specific goals, and you track those goals. And you help people hold themselves accountable to those goals, and you track your performance, and then they can share in the upside. So that's basically how that evolved and how that works.   Sam Wilson  07:53 Got it. That's really intriguing. You're now a full-time developer, you've done projects all across the southeast. What does that mean for you? And if someone were to get into development today, what are some things you're looking at?   Greg Dickerson  08:05 So number one, you have to well, so you're talking about projects, what type of projects to get into right now. So at the moment, I'm really focused on land, and there's been different points in my career where I focused on different things. And it really depends on what the individual's business model is, what their needs are, where they are, financially, all those different things. So me personally, I started out doing spec houses, you know, that was just the world I was in, I was flipping land, and I was doing spec houses and then you know, then I started doing land development, then I start doing commercial mixed-use, you know, so it kind of scaled from there. So it really depends on the individual, their skills, or abilities or background, you know, what their net worth looks like, the ability to raise capital, all of those things, everything is different for everybody. And then every market's different. So every market has different needs, you know, you're in Memphis, you know, that area, you know, maybe you need multifamily, maybe you need some condo buildings, maybe you need you know, an industrial park. So every area, every market, everything is different. And I've developed all those so you know, self-storage and the whole nine yards. So, for me as an opportunistic developer, you know, it's more of what is the opportunity in the markets, and I'm looking at what opportunities come my way. And you know, how can I make the best use of those, and I do a lot of adaptive reuse, where I take existing buildings and turn them into something else. I really love that that's one of my favorite things to do, especially older buildings and the areas that can be you know, higher, better use of something else. So there really is no best thing. But obviously, the number one thing everybody needs. And we've seen it through the pandemic. And you know, during an economic crisis, everybody needs a roof over their head, everybody's got to put right now gas in their tank, you got to buy food, you have to go to the doctor, you know, you have put clothes on your back. So when you look at those core things that you need to survive, you know, from a developer, I'm going to be a real estate developer, real estate investor. I want to own the things that aren't ever going away. The things that can't be outsourced can't be put fully online, that people need to set foot through the door in order to receive that service or that product. So if you look at those types of things, they're never going to go away from a funnel, physical asset standpoint, so you got to look at each market, you know, what are the needs of those markets? And then what are the trends? What are the emerging areas, you know, and those types of things. And more importantly than that, where's the population going? So you want to do things in an area where the population is increasing because if you have an increasing population, all of the other fundamentals around development thesis or investment thesis are going to be there.   Sam Wilson  10:20 Right. Yeah, I absolutely get that. How do you find opportunities today? Is the stuff that's just coming to you? Are you guys actively going out and trying to get in front of development, you know, the path of progress and saying, okay, you know, this is maybe we should start buying land, what's that look like?   Greg Dickerson  10:35 So in this day and age, I've got a huge network, where I'm very well known. So projects just land in my lap every day. And if it's something I'm interested in, I'll pursue it. If not, I've got a big network of clients that I'm mentoring all over the country that are looking for opportunities, and I will pass it along to them, depending on what it is. But yeah, I get deals coming across my desk every single day for not only real estate development, but for companies. So I buy companies, build them up, you know, that type of thing. So I get all kinds of opportunities. Every day, when I first started out, I had to farm, I had to go build relationships, I had to contact property owners directly to contact brokers, I had to do all of that. When I first started out, and especially when I was building and developing infill development spec houses, I would go farm my market, and I would contact you know, all the property owners in the area that owned land that was vacant, ready to build on. And I had a system for doing that. And of course, all the real estate brokers in the area knew that I was a buyer. And you know, if they had anything, they would come to me first. So it's kind of building that reputation is really the best way to do it.   Sam Wilson  11:33 Yep. I love that when it comes to mentorship, which is one of the things that, I know, you're known for. Do you bring on people that have no development experience or do you recommend they go out and get experienced before they come and start chatting with you?   Greg Dickerson  11:46 Now I've got a couple of clients right now I, have zero development experience. One of them is a former NFL player, he actually holds the world record for the longest kickoff run back in a Super Bowl, and for a touchdown. And yeah, he's never been a developer, never invested in real estate. And I'm teaching him how to build a real estate development company. He's got his first project going right now, it's a multifamily, ground-up multifamily, you know, 54 units, I think it's gonna be on a family property. So this is his first foray into development. I've got another guy that was a house flipper, that, you know, I'm helping him bring his first project out of the ground. So 129 units, $25, million, multifamily ground-up project, never done it before. I've got a dentist who has a construction license, and he builds dental practices and kind of coaches and mentors, people and builds, you know, their offices out. But he does that as a business model. As a general contractor, I'm teaching him how to be a developer, and he's doing a mixed-use development, first time he's ever done that land development project mixed-use. And of course, he's going to do the vertical as well. So yeah, it's kind of runs the gamut.    Sam Wilson  12:47 I love that. What are some risks you're seeing right now, just considering the economic times we're in maybe you know, what's going on the world stage? I mean, you see lots of just kind of unknowns, not that we ever have much certainty in this life. But you know, it is kind of a unique time. What are some risks you're seeing in development in general right now?   Greg Dickerson  13:07 Yeah. So costs obviously are volatile right now and all over the map. So it's really difficult to nail costs on a project just because of all the things we're dealing with. And then interest rate is going to become risk, you know, here soon, right now varying a little bit, but kind of what the Fed does that their meetings in terms of their interest rate policy for the year, that's going to affect costs there. But that's kind of normal in the development business, you know what it is going into it, you know, what's going to be coming out of it. So you can mitigate that the biggest risk right now is construction costs, that's something you just can't account for. And you just don't know where that's going to be based on when you start putting on the project. Some of these projects or multi-year projects depend on the size and the scope of it, you just don't know where things are going to be. But I've seen it before. And I've been through it before cos they're always doing this, this is very unique in the times that we're in now. But eventually, it will come back around and costs will, you know, settle in and it'll be more predictable again in the future. But you can't nail a cost right now.   Sam Wilson  14:01 Right, outside of costs, I mean, one of the things we saw in the financial crisis was building and development just came to a screeching halt. At least that's what my memory of it was. I was not a developer, then I'm not one now. Just remember seeing lots and lots of projects that just stalled out.   Greg Dickerson  14:15 Yeah. 2008, 2009.    Sam Wilson  14:17 Yeah. So talk to us about then and how maybe is now different, or is that a potential yet again?   Greg Dickerson  14:23 Now, very different right now. So what happened back then was too much supply. So too much development going on? And then the banking crisis happened, which, you know, eliminated the ability to borrow money for a lot of people. So, you know, that was kind of a cascading domino effect there but the biggest thing was overbuilding it just overbuilt. Everybody was a developer, everybody was able to get money to do projects. You know, we were just outpacing demand. This time, you know, there's a big demand out there and very little inventory in most markets for anything and everything. I mean, everything is undersupplied right now. So very unique time in the market from a demand-supply side standpoint and you know, inventory For residential, mostly some commercial assets. Now there's other commercial assets that are still oversupplied, obviously, retail office, all of the things that took a hit during, you know, the pandemic. But you know, housing is still undersupplied in most areas. And the demand that's out there, from a development standpoint cannot be built through over the next 10 years, because we don't have enough labor. That's the other risk really is in terms of costs and interest rates is the time cycle of a project. You can't nail that either, because there's not enough labor out there to get things done. So things are taking almost twice as long as they did even three or four years ago.   Sam Wilson  15:33 How are people overcoming the labor shortage? What are some ways that you're seeing to creatively solve that problem?   Greg Dickerson  15:40 You know, there really isn't because there just aren't enough people entering the trades, that's your biggest problem. And what's happening is a lot of the guys have been in the trades for 20, 30 years, they're retiring, and there's nobody coming up behind them at scales. There's a number obviously, but not enough to replace and grow the industry. So there's, you know, people are trying trade, school stuff, bonuses incentives, but you know, people just don't want to go into that industry. People are going into other industries now with tech and with the, all the different things that we have, and with the online world that we live in, and with online trading cryptocurrencies, many people are quitting their jobs, and they're doing these other things instead. So you know, there really isn't anything creatively being done at a scale that can be done, because there's just such a lack of interest in going into the fields, you know, where a lot of labor comes from is from people immigrating into the country, and you know, doing those jobs. And that's one solution that can be provided. There's a lot of people outside this country that want to come in and want to do these jobs that are tradesmen from other countries. So that's one way to help fill the gaps. But obviously, you know, we don't have the systems to handle that at scale in the country right now.   Sam Wilson  16:42 Right. That's absolutely intriguing. Greg, thanks for taking the time today to really break down your kind of history of how you started out how you grew so many companies, and just kind of your general mindset, as well as sharing some nuggets on you know, what's going on the market now and how it's different than the financial crisis as well as you know how to get started in development. So this was absolutely fantastic. Thank you for your time today. If our listeners want to get in touch with you or learn more about you what is the best way to do that?   Greg Dickerson  17:06 Yeah. GregDickerson.com all my social links are there. I have a YouTube channel with lots of videos on real estate development and investing and all kinds of other things. So GregDickerson.com.   Sam Wilson  17:16 Thank you, Greg. Have a great day.    Greg Dickerson  17:18 You as well.    Sam Wilson  17:19 Hey, thanks for listening to the How to Scale Commercial Real Estate Podcast. 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What is worse, Dale's Walken impression, his audio this week, or being stuck in your car in a snowstorm for 3 days. Seriously though, Dale's recording setup wasn't ideal and we accept responsibility. It's not up to par! This week we watched BRAINSTORM (1983) and it took us on a journey! Also, shout out to Kill Devil Hills! Welcome to Bat & Spider. On this show we strive to talk about low-rent horror movies for your pleasure and ours. Please join in as we laugh and swoon along to these terrible treasures of low budget yore. Join our DISCORD Get your Bat & Spider STICKERS here Get a sweet new Bat & Spider t-shirt here! All sale proceeds go to The Movement For Black Lives. Technical Adviser: Slim of 70mm Theme song composed and performed by Tobey Forsman of Whipsong Music. Follow Bat & Spider on Instagram Follow Chuck and Dale on Letterboxd. Bat & Spider Watchlist Send us an email: batandspiderpod@gmail.com. Leave us a voice message: (315) 544-0966 Artwork by Charles Forsman batandspider.com Bat & Spider is a TAPEDECK podcast.

Ruth Wyand, of Kill Devil Hills, NC, is a wonderful songwriter and performer, with magic in her tunes and lyrics, though it was really her guitar work that first riveted our attention, complete with soul-captivating finger-picking and bottleneck slide flourishes. Though of a genre all her own, she channels elements of blues, jazz, & Americana - and much more. In addition to her own musical creations, she breathes new life and identity into the tunes of other musicians, making them all her own.

This week on the Loaded Radio Podcast  are joined by drummer Johnny Kelly (TYPE O NEGATIVE, QUIET RIOT, KILL DEVIL HILL etc) to talk about his past, present and future behind the drum kit. Johnny and New Jersey guitarist Dan Lorenzo have both formed the new project PATRIARCHS IN BLACK, who are currently in the process of releasing new music as Kelly also juggles drum duties between QUIET RIOT, KILL DEVIL HILL and DANZIG. In the interview we talk about the legacy of TYPE O NEGATIVE, taking the late Frankie Banali's place in QUIET RIOT and much more.   And as always in the second half of the show we connect with Loaded Radio's Johnny Rude live from Las Vegas, Nevada to discuss the week in hard rock and heavy metal.

Episode 52 of the podcast begins by going back 10 years this week to the most embarrassing race story I have.  An indoor half marathon, in a dome, with free beer at the end.  What could go wrong?  Let's find out!One of the first forms of self-expression growing up is choosing the perfect posters to adorn your bedroom walls.  What was it like for a 1990's teenager choosing posters and more for their wall?This week's Road Trip is to one of the Outer Banks crown jewels, Kill Devil Hills, North Carolina.  It is deeply connected to the Wright Brothers and the history of aviation.  However there is so much more to be seen and done there.What are the Top 5 defunct car brands of my lifetime?  Find out, and find out if you might have owned any of these.There's a new This Week In History and Time Capsule centered around the very first Super Bowl.Be sure to watch for my livestreams called Without A Map Friday's at 8pm on Instagram which serve as a sort of postgame show for the podcast. Find them on IGTV  after they've finished.Helpful Links from this Episode(available through Buzzsprout)Purchase Iconic Hotels and Motels of Cape CodWear Your WishDJ Williams MusicKeeKee's Cape Cod KitchenChristopher Setterlund's YouTube ChannelChristopher Setterlund.comThe In My Footsteps Podcast BlogOuter Banks.comHampshire Dome.comListen to Episode 51 here.Support the show

On January 14, 2021 author and historian Scott Dawson delivered the lecture "The Lost Colony was Never Lost!" Scott Dawson has participated in ten years of archaeological digs on Hatteras Island, where it was discovered that the infamous Lost Colony assimilated with the local Croatoan Indians. The true history has been buried under a mountain of mythology and lies. Learn the real story and what was discovered in the Croatoan Indian Village. Scott Dawson is an Outer Banks historian and serves on the board of the Outer Banks History Center. He is president of the Croatoan Archaeological Society and author of The Lost Colony and Hatteras Island. He is a ninth-generation Native of Hatteras Island and lives with his wife and two daughters in Kill Devil Hills. The content and opinions expressed in these presentations are solely those of the speaker and not necessarily of the Virginia Museum of History & Culture.