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Are kobolds officially dragons now? Is the bloodied mechanic back to make us all sweat? Are gnolls actually fiends, or are they just misunderstood? These are the big questions the RPGBOT.Podcast tackles this week as we dive into the new Monster Manual for D&D. Join us for a hilarious romp through challenge ratings, legendary actions, and why the new exhaustion mechanics make misery a team effort. From Titans and Shadow Dragons to cultists with a creepy glow-up, this episode has everything—including a heated debate over alphabetical monster organization. (Spoiler: It's like a library, but with more teeth.) If you're ready to laugh, learn, and maybe reconsider your next dungeon encounter, this one's for you. Links DnDBeyond Blog Post YouTube Video on new Dragons YouTube Video on new Monster Manual Compilation of stat block previews on ENWorld Other Stuff Count Chocula  (affiliate link) Double Stuff Oreos (affiliate link) The Darkest House (affiliate link) Summary Get ready for an episode packed with laughter, insights, and all the monster-filled mayhem you could ask for! The RPGBOT.Podcast hosts kick off with their signature banter, swapping jokes and anecdotes before diving headfirst into the new Monster Manual for Dungeons & Dragons. But don't be fooled by the chuckles—this discussion gets as deep as a mimic's treasure chest! Here's what awaits: Monster Mayhem 101: Alphabetical monster organization is here, and the hosts are split. Is it revolutionary or just Dewey Decimal for dice slingers? Challenge Ratings Are a Challenge: New DMs rejoice! The manual aims to demystify those tricky challenge ratings, although seasoned DMs might still side-eye the math. Bloodied but Not Beaten: The fan-favorite bloodied mechanic is back! Will it revolutionize combat or just remind us how squishy we really are? Legendary (and Exhausted): Legendary actions and resistance are getting a glow-up, but spellcasters everywhere are still grumbling about those pesky save negations. Kobolds: The Dragon Glow-Up We Deserve: Kobolds officially join the dragon family tree, bringing their rightful swagger—and lots of fire breath. Titans, Cultists, and Shadow Dragons, Oh My!: Titans are stomping into the fray, cultists are getting a creepy upgrade, and Shadow Dragons are ready to haunt your dreams. The hosts don't hold back on humor as they reflect on their own monstrous mistakes (Pro Tip: Gnolls as fiends are still scary) and speculate wildly about what's next for D&D monster design. Whether you're here for the laughs, the nostalgia, or the hot takes, this episode delivers. Takeaways: Monsters are easier to find, but are they easier to fight? TBD. Stat blocks: Simpler for DMs, scarier for adventurers. New exhaustion mechanics: Everyone suffers equally—how democratic! Legendary actions are still a DM's best friend for keeping players on their toes. Creature types are evolving faster than a polymorph spell, and the debate over classifications like gnolls-as-fiends is just heating up. Kobolds = dragons now. Fight us. Whether you're a rookie DM or a grizzled D&D vet, this episode will leave you entertained, informed, and possibly questioning whether your next monster encounter needs more dragons. Spoiler: It does. Ready to roll initiative on a good time? Press play now! If you enjoy the show, please rate and review us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. It's a quick, free way to support the podcast, and helps us reach new listeners. If you love the show, consider joining us on Patreon, where backers at the $5 and above tiers get ad free access to RPGBOT.net and the RPGBOT.Podcast, can chat directly to members of the RPGBOT team and community on the RPGBOT.Discord, and can join us for live-streamed recordings. Support us on Amazon.com when you purchase products recommended in the show at the following link: https://amzn.to/3NwElxQ How to Find Us: In-depth articles, guides, handbooks, reviews, news on Tabletop Role Playing at RPGBOT.net Tyler Kamstra Twitter: @RPGBOTDOTNET Facebook: rpgbotbotdotnet Bluesky:rpgbot.bsky.social Ash Ely Professional Game Master on StartPlaying.Games Twitter: @GravenAshes YouTube@ashravenmedia Randall James @JackAmateur Amateurjack.com Producer Dan @Lzr_illuminati

Are kobolds officially dragons now? Is the bloodied mechanic back to make us all sweat? Are gnolls actually fiends, or are they just misunderstood? These are the big questions the RPGBOT.Podcast tackles this week as we dive into the new Monster Manual for D&D. Join us for a hilarious romp through challenge ratings, legendary actions, and why the new exhaustion mechanics make misery a team effort. From Titans and Shadow Dragons to cultists with a creepy glow-up, this episode has everything—including a heated debate over alphabetical monster organization. (Spoiler: It's like a library, but with more teeth.) If you're ready to laugh, learn, and maybe reconsider your next dungeon encounter, this one's for you. Links DnDBeyond Blog Post YouTube Video on new Dragons YouTube Video on new Monster Manual Compilation of stat block previews on ENWorld Other Stuff Count Chocula  (affiliate link) Double Stuff Oreos (affiliate link) The Darkest House (affiliate link) Summary Get ready for an episode packed with laughter, insights, and all the monster-filled mayhem you could ask for! The RPGBOT.Podcast hosts kick off with their signature banter, swapping jokes and anecdotes before diving headfirst into the new Monster Manual for Dungeons & Dragons. But don't be fooled by the chuckles—this discussion gets as deep as a mimic's treasure chest! Here's what awaits: Monster Mayhem 101: Alphabetical monster organization is here, and the hosts are split. Is it revolutionary or just Dewey Decimal for dice slingers? Challenge Ratings Are a Challenge: New DMs rejoice! The manual aims to demystify those tricky challenge ratings, although seasoned DMs might still side-eye the math. Bloodied but Not Beaten: The fan-favorite bloodied mechanic is back! Will it revolutionize combat or just remind us how squishy we really are? Legendary (and Exhausted): Legendary actions and resistance are getting a glow-up, but spellcasters everywhere are still grumbling about those pesky save negations. Kobolds: The Dragon Glow-Up We Deserve: Kobolds officially join the dragon family tree, bringing their rightful swagger—and lots of fire breath. Titans, Cultists, and Shadow Dragons, Oh My!: Titans are stomping into the fray, cultists are getting a creepy upgrade, and Shadow Dragons are ready to haunt your dreams. The hosts don't hold back on humor as they reflect on their own monstrous mistakes (Pro Tip: Gnolls as fiends are still scary) and speculate wildly about what's next for D&D monster design. Whether you're here for the laughs, the nostalgia, or the hot takes, this episode delivers. Takeaways: Monsters are easier to find, but are they easier to fight? TBD. Stat blocks: Simpler for DMs, scarier for adventurers. New exhaustion mechanics: Everyone suffers equally—how democratic! Legendary actions are still a DM's best friend for keeping players on their toes. Creature types are evolving faster than a polymorph spell, and the debate over classifications like gnolls-as-fiends is just heating up. Kobolds = dragons now. Fight us. Whether you're a rookie DM or a grizzled D&D vet, this episode will leave you entertained, informed, and possibly questioning whether your next monster encounter needs more dragons. Spoiler: It does. Ready to roll initiative on a good time? Press play now! If you enjoy the show, please rate and review us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. It's a quick, free way to support the podcast, and helps us reach new listeners. If you love the show, consider joining us on Patreon, where backers at the $5 and above tiers get ad free access to RPGBOT.net and the RPGBOT.Podcast, can chat directly to members of the RPGBOT team and community on the RPGBOT.Discord, and can join us for live-streamed recordings. Support us on Amazon.com when you purchase products recommended in the show at the following link: https://amzn.to/3NwElxQ How to Find Us: In-depth articles, guides, handbooks, reviews, news on Tabletop Role Playing at RPGBOT.net Tyler Kamstra Twitter: @RPGBOTDOTNET Facebook: rpgbotbotdotnet Bluesky:rpgbot.bsky.social Ash Ely Professional Game Master on StartPlaying.Games Twitter: @GravenAshes YouTube@ashravenmedia Randall James @JackAmateur Amateurjack.com Producer Dan @Lzr_illuminati

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Interview with Steve Leininger, Designer of the TRS-80- Model I Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/FloppyDays Sponsors: 8-Bit Classics  Arcade Shopper   0                                 Floppy Days Tune 1 min 13 sec              Vintage Computer Ads 1 min 42 sec              Intro 9 min 03 sec             bumper - Peter Bartlett  9 min 11 sec              New Acquisitions 17 min 11 sec             bumper - Ian Mavric  17 min 19 sec            Upcoming Computer Shows 21 min 53 sec            bumper - Myles Wakeham 21 min 58 sec            Meet the Listeners 28 min 37 sec            Interview with Steve Leininger 1 hr 20 min 29 sec    Closing This particular episode has a special meaning for me, personally.  You see, as I've mentioned on earlier episodes, the TRS-80 Model I from Tandy/Radio Shack was my first home computer (even though my first programmable device was a TI58C calculator).  I recall the joy and wonder of playing with the machine (it wasn't called the Model I at that time; just the TRS-80; as it was the first of the line) in the local Radio Shack store in 1977 and 1978 and the incredible rush of owning one in 1979; after my wife purchased a Level I BASIC machine for me as a gift for college graduation.  That machine only had 4K of RAM and 4K of ROM (Tiny BASIC), as it was the entry-level machine, but it was a thing of beauty.  I felt like I could do anything with that machine, even though my justification to the wife was that we could track our checkbook and recipes on it.  I think she knew better, but went along with it anyway.  The computer came with everything you needed, including a tape drive and black-and-white monitor, which was good for a poor recent college graduate.  I quickly, as finances allowed with my new engineering job, upgraded the computer to 16K of RAM and Level II BASIC (a powerful Microsoft 12K ROM BASIC) and enjoyed the machine immensely, even using it in my job supporting the build-out of a new nuclear power plant back in those days. I eventually sold off the Model I, in favor of a computer that had color graphics and sound (the Atari 800), but have always continued to have a huge soft spot for that first computer. When I started the Floppy Days Podcast, one of the people that has always been on my bucket list to interview has been Steve Leininger, who, along with Don French while at Radio Shack designed the TRS-80 Model I, among other things.  A few years back, I had the opportunity to participate in an interview with Steve for the Trash Talk Podcast, when I was co-hosting that show, but an ill-timed trip to the hospital for my son meant that I was not able to participate.  While my son's health is of paramount importance, of course, I always wanted to get another chance to talk with Steve.  Not only was Steve the designer of one of my favorite home computers of all time, but he also was a fellow Purdue University Boilermaker, who graduated just a year before I started there.  The thought that I could have met Steve on campus if I'd been there just a year earlier was very intriguing to me, and fueled my desire to talk with Steve even more. In the last episode (#141 with Paul Terrell) I talked about VCF Southeast in Atlanta in July of 2024.  After I had made plans to attend that show, I was flabbergasted to find out that Earl Baugh, one of the show organizers, had somehow managed to contact Steve and get him to come to the show!  I have to thank Earl for the work he did to make that happen.  Here was my opportunity to certainly meet Steve, and perhaps even talk with him!  I prepped some questions, just in case I was able to get an interview. While at the show, I met Steve and asked him if he would be willing to do a short interview for Floppy Days while at the show.  Amazingly, he was very kind and agreed to do that.  We found a quiet room and I was able to talk with Steve for almost an hour.  This show contains that interview. Another note on this: as you'll hear in the interview, the connection to Steve is even stronger than I realized!  He not only went to my alma mater, but also grew up in some of the same towns that myself and my wife did.  We personally peripherally know some of his relatives.  Things like this really do make you think the world is small! One other, final, note: This interview even ties into the recent and continuing interviews I've been publishing with Paul Terrell.  As you'll hear in upcoming episodes with Paul, and in this interview with Steve, Steve actually worked at the Byte Shop before getting the first job with Tandy, and in fact his work at the Byte Shop directly led to him getting hired by Tandy to design the Model I. Anyway, I hope you enjoy the interview as much as I enjoyed getting it.  I am overjoyed I finally got the chance to talk to one of my vintage computer heroes, Steve Leininger! New Acquisitions C64 Sketch and Design by Tony Lavioe - sponsored link https://amzn.to/4dZGtt2  Compute's Mapping the IBM PC and PC Junior by Russ Davies - sponsored link https://amzn.to/3yQmrlP  The Best of SoftSide - Atari Edition - https://archive.org/details/ataribooks-best-of-softside-atari-edition  ZX81+38 - https://github.com/mahjongg2/ZX81plus38  magnifying glasses - sponsored link https://amzn.to/4cBQYla  Japanese power adapter - sponsored link https://amzn.to/3XjeUW5  Upcoming Shows VCF Midwest - September 7-8 - Renaissance Schaumburg Convention Center in Schaumburg, IL - http://vcfmw.org/  VCF Europe - September 7-8 - Munich, Germany - https://vcfe.org/E/  World of Retrocomputing 2024 Expo - September 14-15 - Kitchener, ON, Canada - https://www.facebook.com/events/s/world-of-retro-computing-2024-/1493036588265072/  Teletext 50 - Sep 21-22 - Centre for Computing History, Cambridge, UK - https://www.teletext50.com/  Portland Retro Gaming Expo - September 27-29 - Oregon Convention Center, Portland, OR - https://retrogamingexpo.com/  Tandy Assembly - September 27-29 - Courtyard by Marriott Springfield - Springfield, OH - http://www.tandyassembly.com/  AmiWest - October 25-27 - Sacramento, CA - https://amiwest.net/  Chicago TI International World Faire - October 26 - Evanston Public Library (Falcon Room, 303), Evanston, IL - http://chicagotiug.sdf.org/faire/   Retro Computer Festival 2024 - November 9-10 - Centre for Computing History, Cambridge, England - https://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/72253/Retro-Computer-Festival-2024-Saturday-9th-November/  Silly Venture WE (Winter Edition) - Dec. 5-8 - Gdansk, Poland - https://www.demoparty.net/silly-venture/silly-venture-2024-we   Schedule Published on Floppy Days Website - https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSeLsg4hf5KZKtpxwUQgacCIsqeIdQeZniq3yE881wOCCYskpLVs5OO1PZLqRRF2t5fUUiaKByqQrgA/pub  Interview Steve's Workbench at radioshack.com (archived) - https://web.archive.org/web/19980528232503/http://www.radioshack.com/sw/swb/   Transcript of Interview-Only Randy Kindig: All right. I really appreciate your time today, Steve.  Steve Leininger: Thank you for having me, Randy.  Randy Kindig: So let's start out maybe just by talking about where You live today, and what you do? Steve Leininger: I live in Woodland Park, Colorado, which is 8, 500 feet, right out in front of we got Pike's Peak out our front window. Randy Kindig: Oh. Oh, that's nice.  Steve Leininger: Yeah we get snow up through about June, and then it starts again about September. But it's not as much snow as you would imagine.  Randy Kindig: I've got property in Montana, and I lived out there for a couple of years,  Steve Leininger: so there you go.  Randy Kindig: We probably got more snow up there.  Steve Leininger: Hey, you asked what I did.  I'm involved with Boy Scouts, a maker space with a church based ministry firewood ministry, actually. Some people call it a fire bank. So we provide firewood to people who can't afford that.  Randy Kindig: Oh.  Steve Leininger: So it's like a food bank, but with fire, firewood.  Randy Kindig: I've never heard of that. Steve Leininger: We source the firewood. We cut it down and we split it. Lots of volunteers involved; pretty big project.  Randy Kindig: Yeah. Okay, cool. I also wanted to mention, I'm a fellow Boilermaker.  Steve Leininger: There you go.  Randy Kindig: I know you went to Purdue, right?  Steve Leininger: I did go to Purdue.  Randy Kindig: Did you ever get back there?  Steve Leininger: Yeah, and in fact they've got a couple learning spaces named after us. Randy Kindig: Oh, okay.  Steve Leininger: We've been donating to our respective alma maters. My wife went to IU.  Randy Kindig: Oh, is that right? Oh my.  Steve Leininger: Yeah, oh my and me. Yeah, the fact that the family who's all IU, their family tolerated me was, quite a remarkable thing.  Randy Kindig: Okay.  I find it interesting because I think you graduated in 76, is that right? Steve Leininger: 74.  Randy Kindig: Oh, 74.  Steve Leininger: Yeah. Yeah. I was there from … Randy Kindig: Oh yeah, you actually were gone before I started.  Steve Leininger: Yeah. So I was there from 70 to 73. 70 to 70 four. When I graduated in four years, I got both my bachelor's and master's degree by going through the summer. I managed to pass out of the first year classes because of some of the high school stuff yeah.  Randy Kindig: Okay. I started in 75, so I guess we just missed each other.  Steve Leininger: Yeah. Yeah. You're the new kids coming in.  Randy Kindig: Yeah. . So I, I found that interesting and I wanted to say that. Do you keep up with their sports program or anything like that? Steve Leininger: Yeah, they play a pretty good game of basketball in fact, I ribbed my wife about it because she was from the earlier days, the Bobby Knight days at IU that were phenomenal.  Randy Kindig: Yeah, exactly. For those of you listening, I'm talking with Steve Leininger, who was the primary developer, if not the developer, of the TRS 80 Model I.. Steve Leininger: I did all the hardware and software for it. I'll give Don French credit for sticking to it and getting a project started. And for refining, refining our product definition a little bit to where it was better than it would have been if I would have stopped early.  Randy Kindig: Okay. And I have talked with Don before. I've interviewed him on the podcast, and I met him at Tandy Assembly. But I'm just curious, when you were hired into Tandy and you were told what you were going to do; exactly what were you told?  Steve Leininger: They had a 16 bit microprocessor board that another consultant had developed. And they were trying to make a personal computer out of this. It was the Pace microprocessor, which was not a spectacular success for National, but it was one of the first 16 bit processors. But they had basically an initial prototype, might have been even the second level of the thing. No real documentation, no software, ran on three different voltages and didn't have input or output. Other than that, it was fine. I was brought in because I was one of the product one of the engineers for the development boards, the development board series for the SCAMP, the S C M P, the National Semiconductor had a very low cost microprocessor that at one point in time, I benchmarked against the 8080 with positive benchmarks and ours was faster on the benchmarks I put together, but as I was later told there's lies, damn lies, and benchmarks. But so they said take a look at using that, their low cost microprocessor that you were working with. And it really wasn't the right answer for the job. Let's see, the Altair was already out. Okay. That was the first real personal computer. The Apple, the Apple 1 was out. Okay. But it was not a consumer computer. Okay. They, it was just, it was like a cookie sheet of parts, which was very similar to what was used in the Atari games at the commercial games. Okay. pong and that kind of stuff at that time. And I had been working, after Purdue, I went to National Semiconductor. There's a long story behind all that. But in the process, some of us engineers would go up to the Homebrew Computer Club that met monthly up at the Stanford Linear Accelerator. We're talking Wilbur and Orville Wright kinds of things going on. Yeah. Everyone who was in the pioneering version of computing had at one time been to that meeting. Randy Kindig: It's very famous. Yeah.  Steve Leininger: Yeah. And Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak were basically a couple guys working out of their garage at the time. I was still working at National Semiconductor, but I also had a Moonlight job at Byte Shop number 2. The second computer store in all of California. Randy Kindig: And So you worked with Paul Terrell. Steve Leininger: I actually worked with one of, yeah, Paul, I actually worked for Paul's I don't know if it was a partner, Todd, I don't even remember the guy's name. But I just, it was.  Randy Kindig: I was curious because I'm talking to Paul right now and getting interviews. Steve Leininger: Yeah. I, I'm sure we met, but it wasn't anything horribly formal. Since it was the number two shop, it still wasn't the number one shop, which Paul worked out of. And so we had an Apple 1 there. I actually got the job because I when I When I went in there, they were trying to troubleshoot something with what looked like an oscilloscope that they pulled out of a tank, and so it had, audio level kind of bandwidth, but could not do a digital circuit. And I said what you really need is a, I told him, a good tectonic scope or something like that. He said do you want a job here? I ended up moonlighting there, which was, as fortune would have it, was a good deal when the folks from Radio Shack came down to visit. Because when they came down to visit the sales guy wasn't there. We'll let the engineer talk to them, they almost never let the engineers talk to them.  Randy Kindig: So you had to talk with them.  Steve Leininger: Yeah. It was John Roach, Don French, and it was probably Jack Sellers, okay and Don was probably the; he was the most on top of stuff electronically because he was a hobbyist of sorts. The other two guys: Mr. Sellers ran the engineering group. John Roach was the VP of manufacturing. And they were basically on a parts visit. They do it once a year, once, twice a year. And they also did it with Motorola and a couple other places. But I told him about this microprocessor and that I was writing a tiny BASIC for it. Okay. Tiny BASIC was a interpreted basic that a guy named Li-Chen Wang actually had the first thing in Dr. Dobbs, Dr. Dobbs magazine. We're talking about, we're talking about things that you don't realize are the shoulders of giants that turned out to be the shoulders of giants. And in fact, we reached out to Mr. Wang as we were working on it. We thought we had the software already taken care of because I'm jumping ahead in the story, but we were going to have Bob Uterich, and you'd have to chase that back. We had him signed up to write a BASIC interpreter for us, but because he'd already done one for the 6800, and it was included in Interface Age magazine. on a plastic record. You remember the old plastic records you could put in a magazine?  Randy Kindig: Yeah, I did see that.  Steve Leininger: Yeah, so this was called a floppy ROM when they did it. Yeah. So if you had the right software and everything you could download the software off of the floppy ROM and run it on 6800. I think he used the Southwest Technical Products thing. And so we'd signed him up to do the BASIC. This was independent of the hardware design I was doing. And he went into radio silence on us; couldn't find him. And so we get to, in parallel, I was using the Li-Chen Wang plan to do at least a demo version of BASIC that would run on the original computer. And when the demo went successfully on Groundhog Day in 1977. This is the time frame we're talking about. I I started work on July 5th, the year before it. With Tandy? Yeah. Okay. We rolled into town on the 3rd, and of course they're closed for the 4th. And on the 5th I started, and there was the wandering around in the desert at the beginning of that, and Don's probably talked about how I was moved from there to their audio factory and then to the old saddle factory. Tandy used to be primarily a leather company before they bought Radio Shack in 1966 or something like that. And anyway, when the software didn't come out, I ended up writing the software, too. So I designed all the hardware and all the software. I didn't do the power supply. Chris Klein did the power supply. And, a little bit of the analog video circuitry, but it was very little part of that. Because we were just making a video signal. I did all the digital stuff on that. Yeah.  Randy Kindig: So the software ended up being what was the level one ROM, right?  Steve Leininger: Yeah, the level one ROM started out as the Li-Chen Wang BASIC. But he had no I. O. in his software, so I was doing the keyboard scanning. I had to do the cassette record and playback. Had to implement data read and data write Peek and poke, which is pretty simple. Put in the graphic statements. Yeah, oh, and floating point. Now, floating point, luckily, Zilog had a library for that, but I had to basically, this was before APIs were a big deal, so I basically had to use their interface, To what I had written and had to allocate storage, correct? We're talking about 4K bytes of ROM. I know, yeah. Very tiny, and to put all the I. O. in there, and to make it so that you could be updating the screen, when you're doing the cassette I put two asterisks up there and blinked the second one on and off, you remember that?  Randy Kindig: Oh yeah. Steve Leininger: Sort of as a level set.  Randy Kindig: Yeah.  Steve Leininger: And someone said, oh, you should have patented that thing. And actually I have seven or eight patents, U. S. patents, on different parts of the computer architecture.  Randy Kindig: Oh, do you?  Steve Leininger: But not the blinking asterisk, which is probably a patentable feature.  Randy Kindig: Yeah, I wish I'd had that on other machines, that I ended up having. So that would have been nice, yeah. I liken what you've done with what Steve Wozniak did, for the Apple II. You're somebody I've always wanted to talk to because I felt like you were one of the important pioneers in their early years. What do you have to say about that? Do you feel like what you did was ... Steve Leininger: in retrospect, yes. And I have a greater appreciation for people like the Wright Brothers. If you think about the Wright Brothers they took all their stuff from their Dayton, Ohio, bicycle shop down to Kill Devil Hills. We now know it as Kitty Hawk. But they would take the stuff down there by train, and then they would have to put it in horse driven wagons. Think about that. And people would ask them, what are you going to use the airplane for? It's what are you going to use a home computer for? Yeah, to maintain recipes and to play games.  Randy Kindig: Do your checkbook.  Steve Leininger: Do your check, home security. There's a whole lot of stuff that we talked about. And other giants entered the field: Multiplan, which became Lotus 1 2 3, which became Excel. Not the same company, but the idea, could you live without a spreadsheet today? Very difficult for some things, right?  Randy Kindig: Yeah. Yeah, it's ubiquitous.  People use it for everything. Yeah. Yeah. So you've been, I talked with David and Teresa Walsh. Or Welsh, I'm sorry, Welsh. Where they did the book Priming the Pump. Steve Leininger: That's very that's pretty close to the real thing.  Randy Kindig: Is it? Okay. They named their book after what you did and said; that you primed the pump for home computers. Can you expand on that and tell us exactly what you meant by that?  Steve Leininger: It again goes back to that shoulders of giants thing, and I forget who said that; it's actually a very old quote, I can see further because I'm standing on the shoulders of giants. And I think the thing that we brought to the table and Independently, Commodore and Apple did the same thing in 1977. There were three computers that came out inexpensive enough that you could use them in the home. They all came with ROM loaded BASIC. You didn't have to load anything else in. They all came with a video output. Some had displays. Some Commodore's was built in. One of ours was a Clip on and you had to go find one for the apple. For the Apple, yeah. Apple had a superior case. Apple and Radio Shack both had great keyboards. Randy Kindig: apple was expandable, with its... Steve Leininger: yeah, Apple Apple was internally expandable, yeah. And, but it cost $1,000. Without the cassette. Without the monitor. It wasn't the same type of device.  Randy Kindig: I was a college student. And, I looked at all three options. It was like the TRS-80; there are Radio Shacks everywhere.  You could go in and play with one; which was nice. And they were inexpensive enough that I could actually afford one. Steve Leininger: And, Radio Shack can't duck the, if you did something wrong, you had to fix it.  Randy Kindig: That's right. Let's see here. So initially the idea was to have a kit computer by Tandy? Steve Leininger: Yeah. I'm not sure whose idea that was. It made some kind of sense. Because that's the way the Altair was, and Radio Shack did sell a number of kits, but in the process of still kicking that around, saying it could be a possibility. I was one of the ones that said it could be a possibility. Within the same group that I did the design work from, they also would take kits in that people had built and troubleshoot the things if they didn't work. We had a couple engineers that would see if you connected something wrong or something.  If you didn't, sometimes it was a matter that the instructions weren't clear. If you tell someone to put an LED in, yeah. You specifically have to tell them which way to put it in. And might be an opportunity to tweak your timing. Yeah. Anyway, we get this clock in, and it was a digital clock. Seven segment LEDs probably cost 50 bucks or more. Which is crazy. But It says, put all the components in the board, turn the board over, and solder everything to the board. And, pretty simple instructions. This had a sheet of solder over the entire bottom of the board. Someone figured out how to put two pounds of solder on the back of this thing. And, as we all got a great chuckle out of that, You realize, oh, you don't want to have to deal with a computer like this. You really don't. And Lou Kornfeld, who was the president at the time, didn't really want the computer. But he said, it's not going to be a kit. All right. That, that, that took care of that. great idea. Great idea.  Randy Kindig: Were there any other times when you thought the computer might, or were there any times, when you thought the computer might not come to fruition? Any snags that you had that made you think that maybe this isn't going to work?  Steve Leininger: Not really. I was young and pretty well undaunted. Randy Kindig: Pretty sure you could,  Steve Leininger: yeah I, it wasn't any, it wasn't any different than building one at home. I'd been building kits since, night kits, heath kits, that kind of stuff, since I was a kid. And home brewed a couple things, including a hot dog cooker made from two nails and a couple wires that plugged into the wall. Don't try that at home.  Randy Kindig: No kidding.  Steve Leininger: But, it's funny if you If you look it up on, if you look that kind of project up on the internet, you can still find a project like that. It's like what's it called? Anvil tossing, where you put gunpowder under an anvil, shoot it up in the air. What could possibly go wrong? Don't,  Randy Kindig: It's very well documented in books like Priming the Pump, Stan Veit's book, which I assume you're familiar with, and Fire in the Valley, what your involvement was with the Model 1. But there was some mention of your involvement with the Expansion Interface and other TRS 80 projects. What else did you work on while you were there?  Steve Leininger: The Color Computer, the Expansion Interface. The model three to a little.  Randy Kindig: Okay.  Steve Leininger: Little bit. The model two was the big one. And point I just got tired of the management there.  Randy Kindig: Did you? Okay.  Steve Leininger: Yeah. I my mind was going faster than theirs, and they made the conscious decision to do whatever IBM has done, but do it cheaper. That, to me, that's not a. Didn't say less expensively either, so the whole thing just troubled me that, we're not going to be able to do anything new unless IBM has done it. And at about the same time the Macintosh came out and a superb piece of work. Yeah.  Randy Kindig: Okay. So what education training and previous work experience did you have at the time you got hired by Tandy that made you uniquely qualified for that project that they were looking for?  Steve Leininger: I'd been playing around with electronics since I was in the third grade. Actually, electricity.  Randy Kindig: The third grade, wow.  Steve Leininger: Yeah. My, my mom got me a kit that had light bulbs and bells and buzzers and wire from, I think it might have been the Metropolitan Museum. They had a kit. They, they've got a, they still today have an online presence. It, of course the materials have changed, but the kit had all these parts and it had no instructions. And I don't know if that was by design or it didn't have instructions, so I had to learn how to hook up wires and light bulbs and bells and switches to make it do things. And, in the process, I found out that if you put a wire right across the battery terminals, it gets hot. And, interesting stuff to know. Pretty soon, I was taking this stuff in to show and tell in the third grade. Look, and I was very early in electronics. It's electricity. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then my mom would take me to the library. She was quite a voracious reader, and I'd go to the library. technical section specifically the Dewey Decimal 621, which was electronics and things like that. Randy Kindig: you still remember that.  Steve Leininger: Yeah. And in the 590 series, there's some good stuff too. And I would usually take out a stack of books, even though I was a horrible reader because I'm dyslexic and ADD. So I have an attention span and reading problem. But the technical stuff I was reading about pipeline architecture processors while I was still in junior high. And not that was important to where I ended up, but it was important because I understood the words and data flow, and stuff like that. And between that and building the kits and things like that, I When we moved to Indianapolis, my dad moved jobs down to Indianapolis. Randy Kindig: Oh, you lived in Indianapolis?  Steve Leininger: Yeah. So I moved from South Bend down to Indianapolis. So I probably passed your house as . Actually we came down through Kokomo, but but yeah.  Randy Kindig: I actually grew up in that part of the state. Just south of South Bend.  Steve Leininger: Okay. So yeah La Paz, Plymouth,  Randy Kindig: yeah, Warsaw, Rochester.  Steve Leininger: Yeah, I was born in Rochester.  Randy Kindig: Oh, okay. So that's where I grew up in that area.  Steve Leininger: Okay, there you go. My dad's from Akron.  Randy Kindig: Are you serious?  Steve Leininger: I am serious.  Randy Kindig: Akron's where my wife grew up. And I was just 10 miles from there.  Steve Leininger: The general store there, Dan Leininger and Sons, that's my great grandfather. Randy Kindig: Really?  Steve Leininger: Yeah.  Randy Kindig: I'll be darned. Okay. Okay.  Steve Leininger: So now it all makes sense.  Randy Kindig: That's amazing.  Steve Leininger: Anyway, we started a garage band. This is before Apple's garage band. And I made my own amplifier. It basically had the sun sun amplifiers back end on the thing and a Fender Showman front end on it. Completely home brewed really loud amplifier. And I had a friend who had a guitar amplifier that was broken, and he had taken it down to the music store there. And after six weeks of not getting it back, they said we've had trouble with our technician and all that. I asked if I could go down and look at it, and in 15 minutes I had his amplifier fixed. And they said, do you want tom so you want a job? All right. Yeah, because I'd been doing, I'd had a paper route before and I don't think I was doing anything since we'd moved and ao I started working in a music store and they ended up with two music stores and then an organ store next door and I started repairing that kind of stuff. And this was the end of my first year in college. Went to the extension in Indianapolis.  Randy Kindig: Oh, okay. And Was that I U P U I?  Steve Leininger: IUPUI, yeah. Yeah. I, yeah, I U P U I.  Randy Kindig: Huh. I went there as well.  Steve Leininger: Yeah and learned Fortran there, got all my first year classes out, and then moved on up to the campus. And because we'd always go to the library, and because my mom would often take me to the library, the newsstand not too far from the library, and she'd get a couple magazines, but she let me get an electronic magazine. And, I didn't understand these things, pretty soon you start understanding the pic, you start understanding it. This is a resistor, I built a little shocker box based on a design in probably elementary electronics. And It's like a handheld electric fence.  Randy Kindig: Oh, wow.  Steve Leininger: Yeah. Think hot dog cooker. Anyway, so I learned some electronics that way. A lot of that was self taught. I learned quite a bit more by working in the music store, again, this was before I was taught any formal electronics. And actually when I moved up to campus on Purdue, I thought I was going to be a world class guitar amplifier designer. That's where I thought. And it turns out my analog gut feelings aren't, weren't as good as other people's. Paul Schreiber does a much better job with electronics, with analog electronics than I do. But digital electronics, I understood this stuff. I would hang out in the library and I'd read the trade magazines. So I was up to date on, I was way more up to date than a typical professor would be on current electronics. And in 1973, which was the end of my junior year, Electronics Magazine had an article on the Intel 8008. And I said, Oh, I understand this. See, I'd already been taking assembly language. Now they didn't teach assembly language programming in the electronics school. They had Fortran, but there was no way to get from Fortran to ..they weren't teaching programming languages. I had to go to the business school where I learned assembly language on the school's CDC 6600 mainframe.  Randy Kindig: Really?  Steve Leininger: Yeah.  Randy Kindig: Through the business school?  Steve Leininger: Yeah. And for those of you who have never tried assembly language programming, it looks like a foreign language until you just internalize it in your brain: there's ADD, A D and A D C for ADD with carry, and there's a whole bunch of different things. There's different ways to move data around, but you're only doing a few really basic things, and if you do it fast enough, it looks like it's instantaneous. That's the way even your phone works today. It's because you're doing it fast enough. It fools you.  Randy Kindig: Yep. Wow. Do you ever look back at these days, at those days, with amazement? As far as how far the industry has come?  Steve Leininger: Oh yeah. And, it's funny because you wouldn't, you couldn't probably, but you wouldn't start over again. I had to learn, I had to learn digital video. Actually the giant that I, whose shoulders I stood on there was the late Don Lancaster. He had a book called TV Typewriter Cookbook. And actually that came out a little bit later, but he had a TV typewriter series in Radio Electronics Magazine. And basically alphanumeric display. If you think about it, just the glass teletype, the keyboard display and a serial interface at the time that the RadioShack computer came out was selling for 999. Another 400 on top of what we were selling the whole computer for. Because we had a microprocessor in there. We didn't have a whole lot of options. We didn't have a whole lot of fluff. In fact Motorola said, send this to your schematics and your parts list and let's see if we can minimize your circuit. And after two weeks they sent it back. He said, you did a pretty good job here. . .  Randy Kindig: Okay. Huh. You still stay in touch with people at Tandy?  Steve Leininger: A few of them. It's actually been more lately. Because it's almost more interesting now. It's like the, I don't know whatever happened to Atwater and Kent, of the Atwater Kent radio. But, that's an old school radio that now you've got people that rebuild them and got them all polished up and all this kind of stuff. But for a while they ended up in the dump. I'm sure, there are some trash 80s that ended up in the trash.  Randy Kindig: I'm sure.  Steve Leininger: Yeah but I've gotten rid of lots of PCs that don't meet my needs anymore, right? Randy Kindig: Sure. Yeah, we all have, somewhere along the way. It seemed like you were really quiet there for a long time and that you were difficult to get in contact with. Steve Leininger: I wasn't really that difficult. I didn't maintain a social media presence on the thing, but things that I had my own consulting company for quite a while. I actually came back to Radio Shack two more times after I left. One was to come back as a technologist there. The politics still didn't work out well. Then I came back as a contractor to help them with some of their online things. I actually had a website called Steve's Workbench. Steve Leininger: And you can find it on the Internet Archive. The Wayback Machine. And it had some basic stamp projects. And we were going to do all sorts of other things. But I managed to upset the people at RadioShack. com. They didn't have a big sense of humor about someone being critical about the products that they'd selected. And I, I did a... I was going to start doing product reviews on the kits, how easy it was to solder, whether it was a good value for the money and all that kind of stuff. And I gave a pretty honest review on it. And Radio Shack didn't appreciate the power of an honest review. It's what makes Amazon what it is, right? You go in there and if there's something that's got just two stars on the reviews, Yeah, you really got to know what you're doing if you're going to buy the thing, right? And if you see something that's got a bunch of one star and a bunch of five star reviews Yeah, someone's probably aalting the reference at the top end. And so I mean they had such a fit that when they changed platforms For RadioShack. com, they didn't take Steve's Workbench with it And I basically lost that position. Radio Shack should own the makerspace business right now. They at one time, one time I suggested, you ought to take a look at buying Digikey or maybe Mouser. Mouser was right down the street from us. They already had their hands into Allied, but these other two were doing stuff, more consumer oriented, but they didn't. They were making, they were flush with money from selling cell phone contracts. And they thought that was the way of the future until the cell phone companies started reeling that back in. At a certain point, you don't want to be paying your 5 percent or 10 percent royalty to Radio Shack for just signing someone up.  Randy Kindig: Yeah. Okay. I didn't realize you had ever gone back and worked for them again.  Steve Leininger: Yeah, twice,  Randy Kindig: and so I'm curious, did you meet any other famous figures in the microcomputer revolution while you were working at Tandy?  Steve Leininger: At Tandy, let's see.  Randy Kindig: I'm just curious.  Steve Leininger: Yeah, Bill Gates, of course. I went out when we were working on level two BASIC. And Bill Gates I think was probably a hundred- thousand- aire at that time. And, working in a, thhey had a floor in a bank building in Seattle. He took me to the basement of his dad's law firm, and we had drinks there, and I went out to his house on the lake. This was not the big house. I've never been there. It was a big house on the lake, but it wasn't the one That he built later on. So I knew him early on run across Forest Mims a couple times. And of course, he's the shoulders upon which a lot of electronic talent was built and some of the stuff is lost. Jameco is actually bringing him back as a… Jameco is a kinda like a Radio Shack store online. It's yeah it is, it's not as robust as DigiKey or Bower, but they've held their roots.  Someone I've not met Lady Ada from Adafruit would be fun.  Randy Kindig: Yeah. Would, yeah.  Steve Leininger: I, that, that's another thing that, if we had something along those lines, that would have been cool, but the buyers weren't up, up to the task and they when you don't want criticism at a certain point you've got to quit doing things if you don't want to be criticized.  Randy Kindig: Sure. When you finally got the Model 1 rolled out and you saw the tremendous interest, were you surprised in the interest that it garnered?  Steve Leininger: I wasn't. I wasn't. In fact, there's a quote of me. Me and John Roach had a discussion on how many of these do you think we could sell? And, this is actually quoted in his obituary on the, in the Wall Street Journal. I, Mr. Tandy said you could build 3, 500 of these because we've got 3, 500 stores and we can use them in the inventory. And to take inventory. And John Roach thought maybe we could sell, up to 5, 000 of these things in the first year. And I said, oh no, I think we could sell 50, 000. To which he said, horseshit. Just like that. And that, now I quoted that to the Wall Street Journal, and they put that in his obituary. Yeah I don't know how many times that word shows up in the Wall Street Journal, but if you search their files you'll find that it was me quoting John Roach. So … Randy Kindig: I'll have to, I'll have to look for that, yeah, that's funny. So you were not surprised by the interest,  Steve Leininger: no, it, part of it was I knew the leverage of the stores I'd been working, when we introduced the thing I'd been working for the company for just over a year. Think about that. And it wasn't until just before probably, it was probably September or October when Don and I agreed on the specs. I'd keep writing it up, and he'd look at it. Don actually suggested that, demanded, he doesn't, in a, but in a good natured way, he made a good case for it, that I have, in addition to the cassette interface on there, that I have a way to read and write data. Because if you're going to do an accounting program, you got to be able to read and write data. I actually figured out a way to do that. There were a couple other things. John Roach really wanted blinking lights on the thing. And my mechanical, the mechanical designer, there said that's going to cost more money to put the LEDs in there. What are you going to do with them? And, Mr. Roach was, you know, familiar with the IBM probably the 360 by then? Anyway. The mainframes. Yeah, mainframes always had blinking lights on them.  Randy Kindig: Exactly.  Steve Leininger: And since it's a computer, it should have blinking lights. And Larry said, Larry the mechanical guy said what are you going to do with them? I said, I can't, I said I could put stuff up there, It's… Randy Kindig: What are they going to indicate?  Steve Leininger: Yeah. And then, he said, I'll tell you what, I'm going to make the case without holes for the lights and just don't worry about it. That was the end of the discussion. Mr. Roach was probably a little disappointed, but yeah, no one else had them,  Randy Kindig: it's funny to think that you'd have blinking lights on a microcomputer like that. Yeah. Yeah. Is there any aspect of the Model one development you would do differently if you were doing it today?  Steve Leininger: Yeah, I would, I would've put the eighth memory chip in with the, with the video display so you get upper and lower case. Randy Kindig: Yeah, there you go. Okay.  Steve Leininger: Might've put buffers to the outside world. We had the, the microprocessor was buffered, but it was, it was very short distance off the connector there. Otherwise, there's not a whole lot I would have changed. Software could have been written a little better, but when one person's writing all the software the development system that I had was a Zilog development system. And 30 character percent a second. Decorator, line printer. The fact that I got it done is actually miracle stuff.  Randy Kindig: Yeah, and you got it done in a year, right?  Steve Leininger: And it was all written in assembly language. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got it all done in a year.  Randy Kindig: That's a good year's work. Steve Leininger: It is.  Randy Kindig: Building a computer from scratch, basically, and then getting it...  Steve Leininger: and back then we had to program EEPROMs. We didn't have flash memory. Okay. Didn't hardly have operating systems back then. Not that I was using one. There was something in the Zilog thing, but yeah we were so far ahead of things, we were developing a product rather than a computer. And maybe that's the whole difference is that we had a product that you pull it up, plug it in, and it says these are TRS 80 and it wasn't the Model 1 until the Model 2 came out.  Randy Kindig: Yeah, exactly. It was just the TRS 80. Yeah. So I have to know, do you have any of the old hardware? Steve Leininger: I've got a Model 1. I don't use it except for demonstrations now. I actually have two. I've got one that works and one that's probably got a broken keyboard connector from taking it out of the case and holding it up too many times.  Randy Kindig: Were these prototypes or anything?  Steve Leininger: They are non serial production units. I've got the, I've got a prototype ROM board that's got the original integer basic that I wrote. I don't have the video boards and all that kind of stuff that went with it when we did the original demonstration. Let's see we had four wire wrapped, completely wire wrapped industrial wire wrapped versions that we used for prototyping the software. One went to David Lein, who wrote the book that came with the thing, the basic book. One I had at my desk and there were two others. Yeah. And they got rid of all of those. So a cautionary tale is if you do something in the future where you've got that prototype that was put together in Tupperware containers or held together with duct tape, you need to at least take pictures of it. And you might want to keep one aside. If it turns out to be something like the Apple III, you can probably get rid of all that stuff. If it turns out to be something like the Apple II, The RadioShack computer, the Commodore PET, you really ought to, enshrine that. The original iPhone. Apple did stuff that was, what was it, can't remember what it was. They had a they had a thing not unlike the... 3Com ended up getting them. Anyway the hand of the PDAs, no one knows what a Personal Oh, digital assistant. Yeah. Yeah. We call that a, we call that a phone ...  Randy Kindig: Palm Pilot. Yeah.  Steve Leininger: Yeah. Palm Pilot. That's the one. Yeah. I've got a couple of those. I've got three model 100's. I've got one of the early… Randy Kindig: Did you work on the 100s? Steve Leininger: I used it, but I didn't work on it. The design. No. Okay. That was an NEC product with Radio Shack skins on it.  Randy Kindig: Oh, that's right. That's right.  Steve Leininger: Kay Nishi was the big mover on that. Yeah. Let's see I've got an Altair and an ASR 33 Teletype. Yeah, we're talking about maybe the computer's grandfather, right? I've had a whole bunch of other stuff. I've probably had 40 other computers that I don't have anymore. I am gravitating towards mechanical music devices, big music boxes, that kind of stuff.  Randy Kindig: Oh, okay. Cool. Interesting. Steve, that's all the questions I had prepared. Steve Leininger: Okay.  Randy Kindig: Is there anything I should have asked about that?  Steve Leininger: Oh my,  Randy Kindig: anything you'd want to say?  Steve Leininger: Yeah, I, I've given talks before on how do you innovate? How do you become, this is pioneering kinds of stuff. So you really have to have that vision, man. The vision, I can't exactly say where the vision comes from, but being dyslexic for me has been a gift. Okay and this is something I tell grade school and middle school students that, some people are out there saying I, I can't do that because, it's just too much stuff or my brain is cluttered. Cluttered desk is the sign of a cluttered mind, what's an empty desk the sign of? Embrace the clutter. Learn a lot of different things. Do what you're passionate about. Be willing to. support your arguments, don't just get angry if someone doesn't think the way you do, explain why you're doing it that way. And sometimes it's a matter of they just don't like it or they don't have the vision. The ones that don't have the vision, they never, they may never have the vision. I've quit companies because of people like that. But When you've got the vision and can take it off in your direction, it could just end up as being art. And I shouldn't say just art, art can be an amazing thing. And that behind these walls here, we've got a pinball machine and gaming conference going on. And it is nutcase. But is there stuff out there you look at and say, Oh, wow. Yeah. And I do too. Keep it a while going. Randy Kindig: Very cool. All right. That's a great stopping point, I think. All right. I really appreciate it, Steve taking the time to talk with us today.  Steve Leininger: Thanks, Randy.  

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Description: Never before have there been five generations in the workforce. Each generation has its own quirks, styles, likes, dislikes, and ways to work, communicate, and even learn! In this podcast episode, we are going to focus on the newest generation joining us in the workplace—Generation Alpha! Resources: Learning & Development  A Multi-Generational Workforce Is a Force for Good  MRA Membership  About MRA  Let's Connect: Guest Bio - Amanda Mosteller  Guest LinkedIn Profile - Amanda Mosteller  Host Bio - Sophie Boler  Host LinkedIn Profile - Sophie Boler  Transcript: Transcripts are computer generated -- not 100% accurate word-for-word. 00:00:00:00 - 00:00:21:03 Unknown Hello everybody and welcome to 30 minute Thrive, your go to podcast for anything and everything HR, powered by MRA, the Management Association. Looking to stay on top of the ever changing world of HR? MRA has got you covered. We'll be the first to tell you what's hot and what's not. I'm your host, Sophie Boler and we are so glad you're here. 00:00:21:05 - 00:00:44:20 Unknown Now it's time to thrive. Well, welcome, everybody. We are so glad you're here and I hope you're ready to talk generations today, specifically on one that you may have never heard before. So never before. There have been five generations in the workforce and each generation, as you know, has their own quirks, styles, likes, dislikes, ways to work, communicate, and even learn. 00:00:44:22 - 00:01:11:06 Unknown So in this podcast episode, specifically, we're going to be focusing on the newest generation joining us in the workplace, and that is Generation Alpha. So it looks like Gen Alpha is the group of generation following generation Z. So Gen X'ers are born in the early 2010's going through the early 2020s. So we know and are finding that each generation brings something really unique to the table. 00:01:11:08 - 00:01:47:13 Unknown So. Amanda Mosteller, MRA's director of talent Development, is joining me today to talk about Gen Alpha how you should really update your L&D strategy to include these Gen Alpha learners. Make sure to stay tuned throughout the episode and we'll tell you how you can win a podcast swag item at the end. Just exciting little note there. But Amanda, we know we now know who Gen Alphas are, but really my first question to you is why is it essential for organizations to now adapt their training and development strategies for this generation? 00:01:47:15 - 00:02:21:09 Unknown When I think about Gen Alpha, I have this case study across the hall and it's my kids. They were born in 2010. We all went through this interesting thing, maybe you've heard of it called a global pandemic. And that pandemic expedited lots of things for all generations. One of the things that expedited for Gen Alpha that is different than other generations is integrated learning in school. 00:02:21:09 - 00:02:21:24 Unknown So 00:02:21:24 - 00:02:40:10 Unknown I'm not talking about adult learning theory principles versus child learning theory principles. We're not going into Andrew versus pedagogy here, but what we are going to talk about is being used to what the source of knowledge plays a part in for for these kids. So 00:02:40:10 - 00:02:46:21 Unknown in most of Gen Alpha was fourth grade or younger when the pandemic hit. 00:02:46:23 - 00:03:11:04 Unknown Prior to that, teachers in the classroom did a lot of teaching to the whole group from the front, doing activities, walking around and helping. They weren't putting elementary school kids into these Google class type structures at such a young age. They were doing that more in high school and certainly in college. 00:03:11:04 - 00:03:21:13 Unknown But the pandemic launched an expedited ETD, putting kids at younger ages into these platforms to learn things. 00:03:21:15 - 00:03:49:18 Unknown What that has done is changed their expectation of what the knowledge expert in the room's function is and how they learn. So Gen Z would have started doing that in college, mostly older. Gen Z. It wasn't until college younger, Gen Z, maybe in high school, some certainly not in elementary school, but now it's embedded in elementary school from like third and fourth grade on. 00:03:49:20 - 00:04:18:21 Unknown Because the schools put money into these platforms. They have licenses, they might as well use them. Right. And so the reason it's important for us to think about is because a lot of organizations are still hanging on to e-learning or instructor led training, possibly blended where we do some e-learning, pre class and post class. But that's as as diverse as we're getting in our strategy. 00:04:18:23 - 00:04:43:01 Unknown But Gen Z doesn't is looking for something different and Gen Alpha won't even understand it. Let's say. Why on earth are you doing it this way? That's not what the source of truth does. That's not their role in my learning. So it's time now because we have four years before they'll be the oldest part of that generation. To your point of the early 20 tens. 00:04:43:03 - 00:04:51:01 Unknown My kids are born in 2010 and depending on which sociologist time range, you look at 2010, somewhere between there and 2012 00:04:51:01 - 00:04:55:23 Unknown is Gen Alpha. So so they're halfway through eighth grade, everybody. 00:04:55:23 - 00:05:14:21 Unknown But it's, you know, four years until they are eligible for full time work. And so we have four years to really look at how we deliver training now, recognize how it might not even be meeting Gen Z and really not diversified in our strategy to meet Gen Alpha. 00:05:14:21 - 00:05:32:10 Unknown So that's why now's the time to be thinking about this. Well, absolutely. And I know you you kind of touched on some of these points, but I'm interested in knowing some of the key characteristics and really preferences of Gen Gen Alpha when it comes to learning and development. Yeah, 00:05:32:10 - 00:05:34:15 Unknown they're wanting 00:05:34:15 - 00:05:36:07 Unknown more and more 00:05:36:07 - 00:06:02:14 Unknown for the knowledge expert to be their guide to where to find the information and to bounce ideas and discussion off of, to make sure that they're understanding it, but they're not looking for the instructor or the facilitator, or for the learning strategy to be a source of truth, teaching it to them in an in-classroom or B in E learning lengthy E 00:06:02:14 - 00:06:13:11 Unknown learnings, overproduced E learnings, and they check out they're not looking for that. What they're looking for is and I'm going to age myself here, 00:06:13:11 - 00:06:26:24 Unknown my generation might remember and maybe remember Sophie, the Choose Your Path books. So you would read a book and you would get to a page and they would say, okay, you can choose to walk into the scary woods or turn around and go back. 00:06:26:24 - 00:06:45:16 Unknown If you choose to walk into the woods, turn to page 37. If you choose to go back, turn to page 46, and then you would go read if you essentially like, made it to the next stage or something horrible was usually it was a creepy book. It was You should it's something that ends the story for you and you have to go back and choose the other way. 00:06:45:18 - 00:07:05:16 Unknown But younger Gen Zs and Gen Alpha, they're looking for that kind of choose my path in learning. And I don't mean my career path. I mean how I want to learn, how I want information delivered to me, what helps for me and let me make those choices. Let me control that. 00:07:05:16 - 00:07:11:06 Unknown And the knowledge experts are there. Guide in how to find that information. 00:07:11:06 - 00:07:29:01 Unknown What might be helpful. They might come back and say, you know, as I was watching this short, short video or I was reading that blog, you you had the internal blog you have and I want to talk to you about this because I'm trying to understand this concept and how it works in my role. That's what they're looking for. 00:07:29:01 - 00:07:53:21 Unknown They want guidance. They don't want to have to rely on the person to come on Tuesday from 8 to 4 and tell them because they're that they're in class now in school. My kids, for example, are being shown where all the resources are to find the information within like the first 10 minutes of a new subject. And then they might have three days where they're meeting all different kinds of things all on their own. 00:07:53:21 - 00:07:55:01 Unknown So all through 00:07:55:01 - 00:07:58:23 Unknown 90 million different platforms that I have to try and follow to make sure they're doing their homework. But 00:07:58:23 - 00:08:20:10 Unknown that's what they're used to. Their their teachers are learning partners now. They're not the single source of truth. So that's what they're expecting when they come in to a learning strategy of you go to these classes during the first week and then after your first 30 days, you go to these classes every Monday and then you have these E learnings to finish between it between 30 and 60 days. 00:08:20:10 - 00:08:24:08 Unknown And look how diverse we are because we do some in class and some online 00:08:24:08 - 00:08:25:05 Unknown and they would be like 00:08:25:05 - 00:08:33:09 Unknown certain article about that. There are some thing I can go find that without having to do either of those prior. 00:08:33:09 - 00:08:50:11 Unknown Well I know we talked about that Gen Z is similar to Gen Alpha in a lot of ways, but what would make this new Generation Alpha different from Gen Z and how they choose or their content and how that content is really delivered? 00:08:50:12 - 00:08:53:22 Unknown Yeah, a couple of key differences. 00:08:53:22 - 00:09:00:10 Unknown One is I mentioned it kind of in the beginning of our chat for a Gen Z. 00:09:00:10 - 00:09:17:21 Unknown This the source of truth being the guide and lots of resources and we don't come to a room five days a week for this. We do it in lots of ways. That really kicked off for older Gen Zs. 00:09:17:21 - 00:09:25:10 Unknown We're talking college like that just didn't happen until college for younger Gen Z sort of in high school. 00:09:25:10 - 00:09:39:01 Unknown And the difference, like I was mentioning in Gen Alpha, we're talking elementary school now you're doing this as they learn how to learn, which I think is really important for us to recognize. These are the shaping years where they learn how to learn. 00:09:39:05 - 00:09:43:20 Unknown I'm teaching my kids how to study. I am teaching them what deadlines mean. 00:09:43:20 - 00:10:08:15 Unknown You get homework done in a certain time. A lot of a lot of our kids, depending on your districts and stuff, but they don't possibly do homework or not until they're kind of older. So deadlines and turning things in on a certain time for my kids over the past couple of years has been like that is in and of itself something I'm teaching them the importance of 00:10:08:15 - 00:10:09:21 Unknown even that 00:10:09:21 - 00:10:10:18 Unknown is negotiable. 00:10:10:18 - 00:10:24:18 Unknown At my son's school, there's a time that it's due and then the teachers will say, Hey, it's missing, and then he'll have like two weeks to go and go get that finished and turned in and he gets full, quote, grades for it throwing me off. But 00:10:24:18 - 00:10:31:12 Unknown that's one one key difference is this is happening much younger than the other generations. 00:10:31:14 - 00:10:42:18 Unknown And for the other generations, it was just kind of nice and part of being an adult. Now. And for our for Gen Alpha, it's shaping how they learn because this is what's happening at this still early stages of their life. 00:10:42:18 - 00:10:52:14 Unknown The second key difference is everyone talks about, you know, tick tock or YouTube shorts or these types of things less 00:10:52:14 - 00:10:53:14 Unknown produced 00:10:53:14 - 00:10:56:05 Unknown shorter snippets, much more 00:10:56:05 - 00:10:59:06 Unknown authentic, much easier to connect to the person 00:10:59:06 - 00:11:07:07 Unknown for Gen Alpha that is part of everyday everything, including now they're not going to tick tock in school. 00:11:07:09 - 00:11:31:13 Unknown I don't think. I don't think not right. I don't think teachers are saying that, but they have, you know, as his wife, my son will they'll be introducing a new history thing and his teachers will have copied and embedded in their discussion boards these really short little like YouTube shorts kind of videos of somebody with their phone introducing a topic. 00:11:31:13 - 00:11:35:08 Unknown And they might have do cutaways to different scenes from a movie or something 00:11:35:08 - 00:11:58:18 Unknown very much like that. Gen Z While they are totally on the Tik-tok train and Facebook is for old people and all of that jazz stuff where the YouTube generation actually they're more younger, millennials and Gen Zs are more into the YouTube source, which while still my own video system, I'm 00:11:58:18 - 00:12:07:11 Unknown still accepting of green screens, still accepting of that kind of sort of produce, not overly produced, but that's kind of okay, 00:12:07:11 - 00:12:09:01 Unknown younger Gen Z. 00:12:09:01 - 00:12:22:05 Unknown And certainly as you get into Gen Alpha, as is, I try to show my son really neat produce created videos. He completely checks out and walks away. If I pull up something that someone did with their phone, he's like, sucked in. Yes. 00:12:22:05 - 00:12:32:15 Unknown It's going to change how we create that video content, I think. And where organizations invest their learning strategy dollars to create some on demand content, what does that need to look like? 00:12:32:17 - 00:12:42:07 Unknown Does it need to be as as fanciful as we make it? I don't know that it does. Yeah. No, absolutely. I feel like they they want the content that looks like a 00:12:42:07 - 00:12:47:16 Unknown not an over over sort of or overproduced, like you said, Tik tok like 00:12:47:16 - 00:13:06:22 Unknown something that they can relate to and they can relate to a Tik Tok of someone who just pulled out their phone and started talking and showing them how to do something, but they might not necessarily be able to relate to someone who is put together a whole production with, like you said, along a longer video showing you how to do something. 00:13:06:22 - 00:13:31:07 Unknown So I totally understand that and get that. Yeah. Yeah. So you mentioned that organizations do need to start thinking about this now and they have a few years now to start kind of rethinking their strategy. So going after that, what is really a primary difference in how an organization's development strategy currently would want to consider adjusting to integrate this next generation? 00:13:31:07 - 00:13:41:01 Unknown Learner What I love that you use the phrase integrate because what I would never encourage an organization to do is pivot 00:13:41:01 - 00:14:01:17 Unknown that generation and completely exclude the fact that, as you said in our opener, there are four other generations work for us still here. Just added one, right? We're bringing in some new folks that don't learn at all the way I mean, the way they're looking to learn in the way Gen X is looking to learn and how we're used to it. 00:14:01:19 - 00:14:05:19 Unknown I should say it's not even looking to learn. It's what we're used to and therefore comfortable with 00:14:05:19 - 00:14:14:18 Unknown polar opposites. Right? But Gen X is still there. Elder millennials like myself, we're still here, Baby boomers are still there, and 00:14:14:18 - 00:14:19:06 Unknown on boards at least, you know, the traditionalist generation, my father 00:14:19:06 - 00:14:22:15 Unknown that may even be on a board. It would be terrifying, but he would be on board. 00:14:22:17 - 00:14:26:09 Unknown They're still around, right? So how are we 00:14:26:09 - 00:14:47:10 Unknown a What I have seen success in and what I am encouraging organizations to do is integrate strategies that will include that next generation while not throwing the baby out with the bathwater and getting rid of your existing strategies that include the generations that are still within our workforce, 00:14:47:10 - 00:15:11:13 Unknown that what we need to do and I was having a conversation a couple of weeks ago with a young lady newer into the industry, newer into the work career field, and she and I were talking about this topic actually, and she said, I just wish that organizations would give options, so I don't want to go to this 00:15:11:13 - 00:15:13:08 Unknown leaders program. 00:15:13:10 - 00:15:27:15 Unknown She's branding the organization. So we're talking new hire, kind of get to know the organization program where you've created this schedule. And I go do all of these things at these times. What I would love to do for me is have my resource person 00:15:27:15 - 00:15:44:17 Unknown that is like my guide and how I learn. And then I could we offer this information in this class on these days, if that's of interest, we do have some short video options to go over the same information and you can talk with your manager in between. 00:15:44:19 - 00:16:18:12 Unknown We have some great talking point guides at the end of each video and you could do it that way. We also have these articles over here if you want to read them and kind of learn about our culture that way and talk to your manager. So why I referenced that Choose Your Path book when we first started chatting is because that's what started blinking in my head while she was talking is, my gosh, we could deliver the same information in a multitude of ways and to be inclusive of all generations, let your learners choose their learning path. 00:16:18:14 - 00:16:41:21 Unknown Let them decide what makes sense for how they like to get information and who are their sources of truth to help them connect it all together. We do need that, you know, administrative control and understanding that you are learning this stuff, that we are making sure you're walking away with what we want you to walk away with. But that the concept that it has to be 00:16:41:21 - 00:16:52:04 Unknown built by a learning strategist or built and led by an instructor to accomplish that would be outdated thinking. 00:16:52:04 - 00:17:09:06 Unknown I think there are other ways that we could provide it, because what we are talking about makes sense for ABC Learner. What others might be talking about makes sense for deaf learner, and we need to help learners through Zeke So 00:17:09:06 - 00:17:11:08 Unknown don't get rid of the content you have. 00:17:11:08 - 00:17:20:02 Unknown Take the time now to look at all the content that you've identified as an organization is important for us to develop our employees on or in. 00:17:20:04 - 00:17:24:06 Unknown How can I take this instructor LED class or this 30 minute e-learning 00:17:24:06 - 00:17:39:16 Unknown and distill it into something different? Can we create blogs? Do we have podcast recording approaches? They're all internal. They're in a bank, a resource bank, and they can go in and click on, you know, episode one episode to episode three, and they have a week to listen to them all. 00:17:39:16 - 00:17:46:10 Unknown And that's how they that would be great for them. And then at the end of each podcast episode, you say, okay, so 00:17:46:10 - 00:18:05:11 Unknown we encourage you between now, when you listen to your next episode to talk to your manager about and then you put in those three talking points and then they would go chat with their manager and the manager knows what they are and just same information delivered in a multitude of ways and let the learner own what makes the most sense for them. 00:18:05:17 - 00:18:11:17 Unknown That's what adapting to include these other generations 00:18:11:17 - 00:18:12:14 Unknown should look like. 00:18:12:14 - 00:18:30:06 Unknown Those are all great points and great ideas. You think of God choose your path or choose your pathway, and I just immediately think of the tic tac sound. Choose your fighter. Like that just comes up in my head. I know where that comes from, right? Where is that wrong with your line? 00:18:30:07 - 00:18:35:13 Unknown And I can picture the sound in everything. Mortal Mortal Kombat 00:18:35:13 - 00:18:40:02 Unknown is a very, very, very. There's a Gen Z statement for 00:18:40:02 - 00:18:43:00 Unknown those. Fantastic. I loved it. But yes, that's what we're talking about. 00:18:43:00 - 00:18:57:02 Unknown Well, moving on here, the phrase authentic city often comes up with when we hear about the next generation or what does this really mean in terms of content development and curation and. 00:18:58:13 - 00:19:01:17 Unknown So I was mentioning, you know, 00:19:01:17 - 00:19:12:09 Unknown they get disengaged with overly produced stuff talking about what in the industry we often call the happy path, 00:19:12:09 - 00:19:22:15 Unknown where in training class we talk about the perfect this is the perfect scenario and here's how you would do this and then you would do this and then they will respond this way and then you would do this and everybody's happy. 00:19:22:17 - 00:19:25:15 Unknown Conflict resolved. And 00:19:25:15 - 00:19:31:00 Unknown what folks are looking for in terms of authenticity is tell me what it really looks like. How does it really go? 00:19:31:00 - 00:19:51:11 Unknown Can you not look perfect while you explain this to me? And can you not be in front of some green screen? I don't mean our beautiful logo backgrounds. I mean in these in these trainings are like these green screened, amazing modern corporate offices that, you know, they're not actually standing in because, you know, very few offices actually look like that in the world. 00:19:51:13 - 00:20:11:21 Unknown And any all of those layers together make the whole learning disingenuous. And they tune out because this person has no concept of what it's really like or this person doesn't. Yeah, doesn't speak my language and I can't connect with them. What they're looking for is 00:20:11:21 - 00:20:21:09 Unknown and I call them selfie selfie videos, like I could hold my phone up, just do a chat, a five minute chat or less on 00:20:21:09 - 00:20:35:09 Unknown the six behaviors, adaptive leadership behaviors, and then say, try this one next time you want to be direct, try this when you want to flex into coaching and they that feels more real. 00:20:35:11 - 00:20:57:23 Unknown You standing there. I'm a I'm a person. I'm not in the most perfect setting and I'm having a quick conversation with you about what it looks like and and how it works. And that feels more real. I am a leadership coach, so it makes more sense that I would talk about that. It would make no sense if I made a video about marketing strategy. 00:20:57:23 - 00:20:59:05 Unknown I don't do that. 00:20:59:05 - 00:21:13:14 Unknown But having a marketing person pop on and say, Marketing hot tip of the week and they know who they are because they're in their organization, it just is a quick hit and it's one of them. It's one of my team members. It's a person I know 00:21:13:14 - 00:21:18:00 Unknown in a space that I feel like if I walked up to their desk, they would say it to me in that exact same way. 00:21:18:00 - 00:21:31:12 Unknown And that's authenticity. Yes. And I can relate to that. Even being a younger, a younger employee, like that's the type of learning that I want to or that I want to see so be prejudged. So we get in there 00:21:31:12 - 00:21:38:17 Unknown just I mean, I'll just interview you. You tell what you want. Exactly. So tell me if I'm wrong. Okay. 00:21:38:20 - 00:21:42:09 Unknown You know what? You are 100% on. Right on. 00:21:42:09 - 00:22:02:24 Unknown Well, we're we've been bringing up phones a lot and Tic TAC and all this, so we've got to bring up technology at some point. So how has really technology shaped the way that Gen Alpha learns and what role should other digital tools play in these modern training programs? Yeah, I mean, Google Classroom 00:22:02:24 - 00:22:05:21 Unknown is part of elementary school. 00:22:05:23 - 00:22:26:13 Unknown Google Classroom becomes they all those all of them have like an online platform. All of the kids have Chromebooks instead of books. But all of the kids most of the kids schools have that by junior high. My son had that by seventh grade, but up through sixth grade, a lot of stuff was done on these interactive whiteboards in the room or something like that. 00:22:26:13 - 00:22:53:06 Unknown Now, I know every district is different. I know every private school versus public school and all of it can look different. My son goes to public school. I can all look different. But all of the districts are using these platforms for where the content is held. So he'll go to a platform and then there's I kid you not 12 different apps 00:22:53:06 - 00:22:58:12 Unknown that he would be clicking in and out of to get his classwork done. 00:22:58:14 - 00:23:13:22 Unknown His math class alone has three apps that he uses. The only class that feels even remotely like how I used to learn is his social studies class. And that's because they only have one app they use. I didn't have any apps, but like 00:23:13:22 - 00:23:20:16 Unknown that's how he expects to go find content and he finds it on his own with the teacher being the guide. 00:23:20:16 - 00:23:28:13 Unknown If Here's the things I want you to accomplish today, here's some resources to do it. His English teacher is teaching them how to use chat gpg 00:23:28:13 - 00:23:43:04 Unknown coming into an organization when he gets into full time work that doesn't even use any type of technology like that in any way would feel very weird to him because he's been really will at that point have been using it for five years in school, you know, 00:23:43:04 - 00:23:46:02 Unknown so they're looking for a source. 00:23:46:08 - 00:23:54:23 Unknown They're looking for. I always say you just have a pond and the teacher tells you what to fish for and you go fish for it, which makes no sense to him. And he tells me he doesn't fish, but 00:23:54:23 - 00:23:56:12 Unknown the point being, 00:23:56:12 - 00:24:04:18 Unknown that's how it's being done. Right? And we have these technologies in our or in our organizations right now. 00:24:04:20 - 00:24:16:18 Unknown So many organizations have some sort of collaborative tool they use, whether it's teams, whether it is WebEx teams, there's Microsoft teams, there's WebEx teams, 00:24:16:18 - 00:24:24:04 Unknown whether it is even Google Slack or Google Hangouts. Right. Some free version of a tool to collaborate. 00:24:24:04 - 00:24:34:16 Unknown Organizations are doing that. It used to be colleges used Blackboard. Right. And that was again pre me I didn't use I did the Dewey Decimal system and I went to library but 00:24:34:16 - 00:24:38:11 Unknown there was blackboard and that was kind of it and it was in college. 00:24:38:13 - 00:24:46:06 Unknown Now we're talking just how I get my assignments work done in sixth grade. So 00:24:46:06 - 00:25:03:01 Unknown we have these capabilities in our organizations right now. We don't think of using them. Not every organization, I should say. I have some of our members that do, but not every organization thinks about how do we use this as part of our learning strategy and not just as part of our collaboration tool. 00:25:03:03 - 00:25:06:18 Unknown That's where I think we can. You can do this 00:25:06:18 - 00:25:18:00 Unknown utilizing a lot of tools that you have at your disposal, and you should utilize all of them. Because remember, I'm talking about creating a learning path, not pivoting, integrating. 00:25:18:00 - 00:25:22:20 Unknown And I would say going off of that. Then follow up question to that is, 00:25:22:20 - 00:25:38:00 Unknown do you have or have you seen any organizations that have already started to kind of to where they're more integrate their training and development programs for general hire already? 00:25:38:02 - 00:26:00:09 Unknown Yeah, Yeah, we do. We have a couple of members. It's interesting they're in the one is in the of Rackspace so they started doing this not for Gen Alpha but because a lot of their team members are in their vans and on the road. So they're not you can't do a atria system e-learning because we don't give them computers and yes we all have mobile learning. 00:26:00:09 - 00:26:27:24 Unknown But if you look at mobile learning and an L.M. learning management system, platforms that are mobile enabled, it's the same video on a smaller screen. That's the only difference. It is a completely redone for your phone. It's still a video and you still might have quiz questions that pop up in between and you just are doing it on a smaller screen so it's not actually redone for mobile. 00:26:27:24 - 00:26:40:15 Unknown So it wasn't really working for them. So they started creating these things because they did have certain pieces of content that were hands on. And so you have to come to the warehouse to do it, 00:26:40:15 - 00:26:49:14 Unknown but we offer it a multitude of times because of schedules. So I might have an installation scheduled that day. And we can't stop all installations as a business. 00:26:49:14 - 00:27:12:08 Unknown We aren't going to do that. That's silly. So well offered and multiple times to fit your schedule. So people were starting to choose their own path already based on that. That works for me. And then they all had teams and so they started creating teams channels for content. There are two new create a channel. Here's a lot of ways this can benefit a learning strategy. 00:27:12:10 - 00:27:16:05 Unknown One, it's a it's a mobile. You can install teams on your phone, right 00:27:16:05 - 00:27:31:07 Unknown When you have a channel that you belong to, let's say new employee channel or emerging leaders channel or customer service channel. And it's not us talking with the members, it's learning how to be great at our customer services. We're at their homes and we're doing these installations. 00:27:31:07 - 00:27:55:10 Unknown What happens is they get added to the channel because either say they want to or everybody does. For the first year, whichever their strategy is, the channel has a chat. So they would have ongoing discussions all the time in the moment, coaching with the the guide there, but they also have their cohort of learners of other people. So they've just dealt with this situation, you know, not knowing if I did it right. 00:27:55:10 - 00:28:34:23 Unknown What's your opinion and the groups chatting about it then another tab for the channels, those files and they would have procedures. F.A. Qs, all kinds of sources of information there for them. They also could have videos in that file and they, there's a lot of different apps you can add on to any team's channel. So they would have all these different things, including a scheduler, so that if they did have in-person classes coming up on this topic and it was something that you feel like you needed more help in, you could go to the scheduler, click it, it linked to the LMS to register so you can track. 00:28:35:00 - 00:28:39:04 Unknown Like I said, you still going to have some sort of tracking system to the stuff 00:28:39:04 - 00:28:53:01 Unknown and people that wanted to go to the in-person class and they, they would have the multiple sessions and they would click it and they would come, but you didn't have to. And some people the way the the soapies, some videos and the chat function worked for them 00:28:53:01 - 00:28:54:22 Unknown and they didn't do it for that generation. 00:28:54:22 - 00:28:58:19 Unknown But I told them, I said, Well, you're in luck. You're already set up thumbs up. My 00:28:58:19 - 00:29:03:24 Unknown early start. Yeah, yeah. I mean, and, and they did a lot of their 00:29:03:24 - 00:29:05:18 Unknown they would reach into the chat 00:29:05:18 - 00:29:14:07 Unknown channel and say, hey, we're looking to update our videos. Anybody want to come? So to that authenticity point, they were just shooting them with their own. 00:29:14:09 - 00:29:18:09 Unknown I don't know if it was their phones probably a little bit fancier, but their own like handheld 00:29:18:09 - 00:29:42:19 Unknown videos with volunteers of team members. So so people are showing up. We're not producing. We knocked around an hour and then within like a half hour it was up and in the in the team's channel on that subject. So using teams not just for a collaborative tool, but as a development piece of the strategy and they just did it beautifully. 00:29:42:21 - 00:29:45:06 Unknown I was like, You're good. High five here. 00:29:45:06 - 00:29:50:05 Unknown that's a great it's a great example of a good success story. So yeah, 00:29:50:05 - 00:30:13:20 Unknown I do also want to reiterate the point I know we talked about, but that there are are also other generations in the workplace simultaneously. So can you just kind of reiterate the point or talk about how this strategic adjustment or integration, what that really means for for those learners of different generations? 00:30:13:22 - 00:30:50:11 Unknown Yes. And you used the pivotal word again, integration, right? Don't throw out what you already have. Just use it. You already have a strategy that is identified important information that you as an organization, agree. You should invest your time and energy into developing your people on. Because whatever learning strategy you have that involves a person coordinating it, people spending time outside of their daily work to learn it means you as an organization have determined it's worth the time investment and possibly depending on what it is, the financial investment. 00:30:50:14 - 00:31:11:11 Unknown So don't get rid of any of that. It's saying how can we also deliver that in potentially more of a choose your own path kind of way? Can we take that information? And what are the exercises that for someone that doesn't need to or want to go to a learning for workshop approach we can take out and still give them that information. 00:31:11:12 - 00:31:13:11 Unknown It's more of like a 00:31:13:11 - 00:31:36:15 Unknown like an article kind of thing to read. And then instead of exercises, we finish it with those talking points that you go chat with your manager about. Don't expect people to read it and retain it. You have to kind of let them in and they need to let the manager know. They read this, they want to talk about these points, but how I integrate it into my job role, the threat that other people might go to the class on the same content, but 00:31:36:15 - 00:31:48:19 Unknown it's taking what already exists because it's been determined as important and then spending some energy in providing it in some different ways so that as other generations 00:31:48:19 - 00:32:10:11 Unknown and other learner preferences, you also might find you. I don't want to assume that there aren't, you know, my mom as she's a boomer, she's a boomer like the first year, the baby boomer. But she and I talk about it and she's like, man, there was a lot of stuff. I would sit through glass and think, this could have been like a quick walk by my cube and tell me and I would have been fine. 00:32:10:11 - 00:32:18:09 Unknown She's a math mathematician and engineer woman, so most things she felt could have been handled through a quick conversation. But 00:32:18:09 - 00:32:27:11 Unknown so you might be surprised as to who you see take advantage of more of that self-guided, not even just self-paced, self-guided 00:32:27:11 - 00:32:36:07 Unknown learning strategy. No, that's a good point To just mention that some gen zers or gen alphas may not all take the same approach or. 00:32:36:07 - 00:33:00:22 Unknown They're all the same way. So that's a good point to bring up. But kind of wrapping up here, do I know we talked about a lot today, but do you have three main takeaways that our listeners can kind of walk away with in terms of how they can really start integrating learning and development strategies for Gen Alpha learners? 00:33:00:24 - 00:33:08:14 Unknown Absolutely. Stop throwing so much money into production for any of your video stuff. You don't have to 00:33:08:14 - 00:33:21:17 Unknown sow more authentic content that feels more real. So embrace the fact that you might be talking about the happy path and spend time talking about reality. 00:33:21:17 - 00:33:28:13 Unknown Diverse. Don't get rid of what you have. Diversify how someone can access the information shared and what you have. 00:33:28:13 - 00:33:39:22 Unknown And the third one, and this is going to be the hardest for any organization potentially it was the hardest for me, and I like to think I'm pretty progressive learning views 00:33:39:22 - 00:33:43:15 Unknown Embrace empowering the learner. 00:33:43:15 - 00:33:48:16 Unknown I'll say that online again. Embrace empowering the learner 00:33:48:16 - 00:33:52:01 Unknown so who knows how it. So if you would like information shared best, I don't 00:33:52:01 - 00:33:53:15 Unknown know if you knows that so 00:33:53:15 - 00:33:57:04 Unknown too that diversifying then let go features. 00:33:57:06 - 00:34:13:07 Unknown Here's the things I need you to know. I need you 30, 60, 90 to know it. Here's the different ways you can learn it. Let's sit down and myself as the learning leader, person or whatever. Right? The trainer assigned to you. You're your Sherpa through your learning guide. 00:34:13:07 - 00:34:18:04 Unknown As we sit down, let's map it out. What makes the most sense for you? 00:34:18:06 - 00:34:32:05 Unknown And you might be like parents. It's kind of hard. I think that one, I would like to go to a class on. I'm pretty good at that. And this is embracing adult learning theory. This is my whole career and we hire experts and then we train them how to do it. Steve Jobs is like that is so ridiculous. 00:34:32:07 - 00:34:52:23 Unknown And I agree with the man. If you're a marketing expert, I'm not going to train you on like how to market and social. Come take our social media marketing. Sophie Who's done social media marketing for forever? I'm not going to do that. So you might be like, I just want to read your policies on that. I'm good. You know, let me sit you down with the options. 00:34:53:02 - 00:34:54:02 Unknown Let you choose. A 00:34:54:02 - 00:35:17:13 Unknown it's a great, great ending point here and some great action steps that our listeners can start implementing today then, or at least thinking about it, you know? Yeah, well, you just heard from every subject matter expert on educating general flow. But to our listeners we also want to hear from you. So we're curious to know what you're doing to kind of revamp or 00:35:17:13 - 00:35:21:19 Unknown I guess, revamp your training programs for the next generation. 00:35:21:21 - 00:35:38:13 Unknown And so we are giving out one of our new podcast merch swag items. So we're encouraging you to send in your comments on this question for a chance to win that podcast Souvenir you'll want. I have one and I want it. I want one. So can I comment? I'll give you a one. 00:35:38:13 - 00:35:41:07 Unknown But otherwise, thank you so much for tuning in today. 00:35:41:07 - 00:36:09:10 Unknown Thank you, Amanda, for all that great information. As always. Don't forget to check out the resources in the show notes below on MRA membership and Resources on this specific episode. So I hope you have a great day and we will see you next week. And that wraps up our content for this episode. Be sure to reference the show notes where you can sign them to connect for more podcasts updates, check out other MRA episodes on your favorite podcast platform. 00:36:09:11 - 00:36:19:03 Unknown And as always, make sure to follow MRA's 30 minutes THRIVE so you don't miss out. Thanks for tuning in and we'll see you next Wednesday to carry on the conversation.  

With only a minor diversion the team races to rescue Team Dees from certain peril. While they do time ticks ever closer to evening and their slightly delayed invasion of Library ++. There are dark secrets still lurking in the milky bowels of this town (I'm sorry can I take that one back?), which ones may they uncover today? Chrys disguises himself. Iris creates an obstacle. Cosmo knows the Dewey Decimal system.

This week, we have a fan-favorite topic to discuss - book organizing! Unlike other organizing tasks that might not be as enjoyable, many of you have expressed your love for organizing books. Whether you dream of having your own mini library or want to categorize your books like a professional librarian, we've got you covered.We'll share expert tips and considerations to make your book organizing journey even better. So, if you have a ton of books begging for organization or simply want to discover new ways to enhance your bookshelf, then you're in the right place.Get ready to dive into the wonderful world of book organizing.In this episode we talk about:Different organizing methods like the Universal Classification System, Dewey Decimal, Color Coded, Alphabetical, and many otherWho benefits from these systems and whyWhat to consider when you are organizing booksMentioned in this Episode:Episode 009: Organization with Flair: How to Have a Stylish and Tidy Homehttps://theorganizedflamingo.com/9-organization-with-flair-how-to-have-a-stylish-and-tidy-home/Episode 022: Reselling Revolution: Weighing the Benefits and Drawbacks of Garage Saleshttps://theorganizedflamingo.com/22-reselling-revolution-weighing-the-benefits-and-drawbacks-of-garage-sales/Episode 001: 7 Steps to Organizing (almost) Anythinghttps://theorganizedflamingo.com/7-steps-to-organizing/---The Organized & Productive podcast is brought to you by The Organized Flamingo and hosted by Stephanie Y. Deininger! For those of you who love the thought of organizing & being more productive, but don't know where to start or constantly up against hurdles that don't let you advance the way you want to, this podcast is for you!Review full show notes and resources at https://theorganizedflamingo.com/podcastConnect with Stephanie: https://www.instagram.com/theorganizedflamingo/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this Very Special Episode, Eric celebrates National Library Card Sign Up Month! What better way to celebrate getting your library card than with a countdown of my favorite Disney Librarians done in Dewey Decimal Style! We take a look at animated librarians, like Monsters University. Disney Junior Librarians Like in Mira Royal Detective. Movie Detectives like Abigail Chase from National Treasure. And even Real Life Disney Librarians like Dave Smith, The founder of the Walt Disney Archives! You should definitely Check it Out! (library pun intended) Get your Free Synergy Loves Company stuff: https://forms.gle/8TtNT86NSQVGngVPA Thanks for listening to Synergy Loves Company: How Disney Connects to Everything. https://www.synergylovescompany.com Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@synergylovescompany Twitter: https://twitter.com/EricHSynergy Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/synergylovescompany Instagram and Threads :https://www.instagram.com/synergylovescompany/Read transcript

In this episode, Phil and Janelle talk about Indiana Jones, mockumentaries, tropical storms, The Hunger Games, parenting, high school, sleeping patterns, NIMH, Gordon Korman, CDs, yakisoba, and more.

Welcome to Bottle Episodes! The show where Daniel Crow and David Piccolomini watch the best of terrible television! This week we're talking about Tomes and Talismans! "Quite possibly the finest post-apocalyptic educational series about library science ever produced by Mississippi Public Television." Get ready for an in-depth hard hitting look into the Dewey Decimal system in what was probably the second smelliest series we've covered. (Looking at you Lancelot Link!).  We decide we're team Wiper and wonder if this might have been and inspiration for Ted Kaczynski Comedian Brandon Gorin joins to explain why its now his 4th(!) favorite show Tomes and Talismans Bottle Episode: Apparently all of them? Watch Tomes and Talismans on Youtube, Mississippi Public Broadcast, or the Link Follow David on Instagram @DPicComedy and check out his special Goblin King Follow Crow @DanielFCrow

Episode Notes Greg and Jordan were joined by members of the Salt Lake City Public Library's Workers United (@SLCPLWU) to discuss their union drive and what the realities are of organizing on the ground in Utah Here is the link to their campaign to demand the SLC Library Board honor the union: https://actionnetwork.org/letters/tell-slcpl-board-of-directors-respect-slcpl-workers-united

Could you run a television studio? How much do you enjoy spatulas? Do you know the Dewey Decimal system? All these questions, and more, are answered when we talk about UHF!Follow the boys on social media:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/letstalkaboutflixTwitter: https://twitter.com/talkaboutflixInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/letstalkaboutflix/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@letstalkaboutflixWebsite: https://anchor.fm/letstalkaboutflix Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutflix

Jess deCourcy Hinds is the solo librarian at the Bard High School, Early College library in Queens, New York. In 2010, she received a new order of books about the civil rights movement, but Hinds noticed something strange: all of the books had Dewey Decimal numbers in the 300s, meaning they were supposed to be shelved in the social sciences section. She thought that some of the books belonged in the 900s, the history section. Like books on President Obama. Because texts about the 44th President were classified as social science, he would be separated from all the other books about U.S. presidents in her library. It seemed like part of a trend. "When it came to the LGBTQ books, and the women's history books, and books on immigrant history, all of those were in the 300s as well," says Hinds. So she and her students decided to rebel, to put books about President Obama into the history section: "we just started moving them." The Dewey Decimal Classification System is a method that dates back to 1876 and is used by most libraries around the world. The second most popular system, the Library of Congress Classification System, was published in the early 1900s and based on the organization of Thomas Jefferson's personal library. These systems help patrons find books on the shelves and facilitate resource-sharing between libraries. But they also encode bias into the structure of libraries. To understand what that means for our current collections, On the Media producer Molly Schwartz spoke with Wayne A. Wiegand, a library historian and author of Irrepressible Reformer: A Biography of Melvil Dewey, Caroline Saccucci, former Dewey Program Manager at the Library of Congress, Emily Drabinski interim chief librarian of the Mina Rees Library at CUNY, and Dartmouth librarian Jill Baron from the documentary Change the Subject.   This segment originally aired in our September 3, 2021 program, Organizing Chaos.  On the Media is supported by listeners like you. Support OTM by donating today (https://pledge.wnyc.org/support/otm). Follow our show on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook @onthemedia, and share your thoughts with us by emailing onthemedia@wnyc.org.

Jess deCourcy Hinds is the solo librarian at the Bard High School, Early College library in Queens, New York. In 2010, she received a new order of books about the civil rights movement, but Hinds noticed something strange: all of the books had Dewey Decimal numbers in the 300s, meaning they were supposed to be shelved in the social sciences section. She thought that some of the books belonged in the 900s, the history section. Like books on President Obama. Because texts about the 44th President were classified as social science, he would be separated from all the other books about U.S. presidents in her library. It seemed like part of a trend. "When it came to the LGBTQ books, and the women's history books, and books on immigrant history, all of those were in the 300s as well," says Hinds. So she and her students decided to rebel, to put books about President Obama into the history section: "we just started moving them." The Dewey Decimal Classification System is a method that dates back to 1876 and is used by most libraries around the world. The second most popular system, the Library of Congress Classification System, was published in the early 1900s and based on the organization of Thomas Jefferson's personal library. These systems help patrons find books on the shelves and facilitate resource-sharing between libraries. But they also encode bias into the structure of libraries. To understand what that means for our current collections, On the Media producer Molly Schwartz spoke with Wayne A. Wiegand, a library historian and author of Irrepressible Reformer: A Biography of Melvil Dewey, Caroline Saccucci, former Dewey Program Manager at the Library of Congress, Emily Drabinski interim chief librarian of the Mina Rees Library at CUNY, and Dartmouth librarian Jill Baron from the documentary Change the Subject.   This segment originally aired in our September 3, 2021 program, Organizing Chaos. 

Bible Reading: John 20:31; 2 Timothy 3:16-17Friday was Maribel's favorite day of the week! Because on Fridays after school, Maribel and her mom went to the library to look for books. And today was no exception.As the library doors swooshed open, Maribel breathed in the familiar scent of book pages. She headed over to her favorite section--fiction--and began to take in each of the colorful spines lined along the shelves. Her mom didn't have a favorite section though. She would go up and down the different aisles, always ending her search with a pile of books about lots of different subjects."Mom," asked Maribel as they drove home, "how do they keep track of all the books at the library?""They use something called the Dewey Decimal system," Mom said. "There are numbered sections for different subjects and types of books. They have sections for books about history, science, art, travel--anything anyone would want to read about, really.""Wow!" said Maribel. "That's a lot of different types of books.""Yes," said Mom. "Did you know that there's a very special type of book that includes a whole library?""No way!" said Maribel. "What book is that?""It's the Bible," said Mom. "It's made up of many different types of books written by lots of different people who were empowered by the Holy Spirit. The Bible includes history, law, poetry, prophecy, songs, letters, and more!""That's so cool!" said Maribel. "How did people know what books to put in the Bible?""God is so creative," Mom said. "He guided the people who wrote the books of the Bible in a very special way called 'inspiration.' Then He guided other people in helping choose which books belonged in the Bible, His library. That's how we can know the Bible is true. God wrote it, using human people who trusted in Him and listened to Him. And the people who chose the books in the Bible knew the story of Jesus and listened to the Holy Spirit to figure out which books proclaimed that story well." "So, if the Bible is a library, then Jesus is the librarian?" asked Maribel."Yes," said Mom. "And we can trust Him to tell us His story." -Kandi ZellerHow About You?Did you know the Bible has different genres--books on different subjects with different styles of writing? The amazing thing about the Bible is that even though there are lots of different books, genres, and writers, it all tells the same story: Jesus died and rose again to beat sin and death! What questions do you have about the Bible? Talk with your parents, pastor, or another Christian adult about them today.Today's Key Verse:He [Jesus] is the one all the prophets testified about, saying that everyone who believes in him will have their sins forgiven through his name. (NLT) (Acts 10:43)Today's Key Thought:The Bible is a library

Dan and Jay talk this week about their Dewey Decimal video and are visited by their granddads and their arch-nemesis. Thanks to this week's sponsors, Lathecuts.com!...

Even Footing Games Presents Crawl of Cthulhu is an actual play podcast using the Babies and Broadswords system, with some scripted elements. Join our tiny terrors as they decide how they might find their missing prize. Along their way they will learn the importance of the Dewey Decimal system and the true power in controlling the means of production. ... Even Footing Games Presents Cast includes Ashley Arbaiza as Nighty Night the Mothgirl Jason Cassidy as the sitter Steve Easton as Leonard the Frogman Carri Hunter as Jay the Thunderhawk Jimmy St James as Harkle the Snallygaster Additional voice acting by Hannah Davies and Chaz Swan Editing by Aaryn Easton and Mike Ball ... Babies and Broadswords: The Book with All the Rules and Crawl of Cthulhu are available on DriveThruRPG and Amazon Support our work on Patreon or ko-fi.com/evenfootinggames Get merch and find out more on our website Talk to us on Twitter @evenfootingg Follow our Instagram @evenfootinggames Share your ideas and adventures on Discord Listened to the show and loved it? Please rate and review, so it gets heard by more brilliant folks like you. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

Steph, Tracy & Melody discuss a victory from this past week along with their goals for the coming week. Melody makes an observation that all three of us have had big transformational times over the last few weeks and we are getting back to our fundamentals. Melody has a big vision for her business and is taking action. Steph is in the library searching for books using the Dewey Decimal system and Tracy is hopeful to re-establish her fundamentals after taking on a new teaching job. We invite you to re-evaluate how your goals are going and make adjustments accordingly.

This episode we're talking about Biographical Fiction & Fictional Biographies! We talk about metafiction, superhero origins as cover songs, spaceship detectives, cat biographies, amendments to amendments, alien abductions, and more!  You can download the podcast directly, find it on Libsyn, or get it through Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, or your favourite podcast delivery system. In this episode Anna Ferri | Meghan Whyte | Matthew Murray | Jam Edwards Things We Read (or tried to…) Nat Tate: An American Artist: 1928-1960 by William Boyd Wikipedia Maigret's Memoirs by Georges Simenon, translated by Howard Curtis Matthew was wrong about how many books in this series came out in one month, but based on the French Wikipedia article four titles (including this one) were released in 1951. Confessions of the Fox by Jordy Rosenberg Jack Sheppard (Wikipedia) The Dreamer by Pam Muñoz Ryan and Peter Sís Orlando: A Biography by Virginia Woolf (Wikipedia) Summertime by J.M. Coetzee Other Media We Mentioned Oscar Wilde Murder Mysteries Series by Gyles Brandreth Girl with a Pearl Earring by Tracy Chevalier Wolf Hall by Hilary Mantel Doc Savage: His Apocalyptic Life by Philip José Farmer What Is the What by Dave Eggers Moll Flanders by Daniel Defoe (Wikipedia) Blonde (2022 film) (Wikipedia) Blonde by Joyce Carol Oates Smile (2022 film) (Wikipedia) Bastard Out of Carolina by Dorothy Allison The Limits of Autobiography: Trauma, Testimony, Theory by Leigh Gilmore The Sot-Weed Factor by John Barth The Red Tent by Anita Diamant Summer Fun by Jeanne Thornton Mrs Dalloway by Virginia Woolf (Wikipedia) A Field Guide to the Aliens of Star Trek: The Next Generation by Joshua Chapman (zine series) We can't find a good link for the zines, but it's been collected as a book Interview with the Vampire (film) (Wikipedia) A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter M. Miller Jr. The Big Lebowski (Wikipedia) Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal by Christopher Moore Links, Articles, and Things Episode 143 - Amish Romance Episode 119 - Regence Romance Episode 094 - Chick Lit Romance Episode 070 - Erotic Romance The 7 Best Library Podcasts  Fictionalized biography (Encyclopædia Britannica) Autofiction (Wikipedia) Isekai (Wikipedia) Oliver Cromwell (Wikipedia) Epistolary novel (Wikipedia) Episode 111 - Happy Birthday Dracula Episode 128 - Plucky Kid Detective Episode 136 - Hearts of Magic: Threads Entangled List of biblical figures identified in extra-biblical sources (Wikipedia) List of Dewey Decimal classes (Wikipedia) National Library of Medicine classification (Wikipedia) Zaphod Beeblebrox (Wikipedia) “Vell, Zaphod's just zis guy, you know?” False memory: Mandela Effect (Wikipedia) 17 Fictional Biographies books by BIPOC (Black, Indigenous, & People of Colour) Authors Every month Book Club for Masochists: A Readers' Advisory Podcasts chooses a genre at random and we read and discuss books from that genre. We also put together book lists for each episode/genre that feature works by BIPOC (Black, Indigenous, & People of Colour) authors. All of the lists can be found here. Carolina Built by Kianna Alexander Clotel: or, The President's Daughter by William Wells Brown Pocahontas by Joseph Bruchac American Woman by Susan Choi The Black Rose by Tananarive Due The Reason for Crows: A Story of Kateri Tekakwitha by Diane Glancy Stone Heart: A Novel of Sacajawea by Diane Glancy Driving the King by Ravi Howard Delayed Rays of a Star by Amanda Lee Koe Leo Africanus by Amin Maalouf, translated by Peter Sluglett Empress Orchid by Anchee Min Dancing in the Dark by Caryl Phillips Douglass' Women by Jewell Parker Rhodes I the Supreme by Augusto Roa Bastos, translated by Helen Lane Empress by Shan Sa The Book of Salt by Monique Truong Black Cloud Rising by David Wright Faladé Give us feedback! Fill out the form to ask for a recommendation or suggest a genre or title for us to read! Check out our Tumblr, follow us on Twitter or Instagram, join our Facebook Group, or send us an email! Join us again on Tuesday, October 18th for our SpoooooOOOoooky Halloween episode we'll be talking about the concept of Hate Reads! Then on Tuesday, November 1st we'll be discussing the genre of Investigative Journalism!

Welcome back to ADHDnD! In this episode Cate...I mean, Helvetica, gets her Greatest Wish and the team visits a library...and it doesn't exactly go to plan. Blumken does something so adorable that Cate cries in real life, and the team navigates another dangerous area of the ADHDND facility. Our fearless DM, Chris, puts up with a lot of questions about the Dewey Decimal system and we get even closer to the exciting conclusion of Season One. Consider supporting the work we do by visiting www.patreon.com/infinitequest Erik: www.patreon.com/heygude Cate: mostlypans.com or www.patreon.com/catieosaurus Find us on TikTok and Instagram at: @catieosaurus @heygude We also stream daily on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/catieosaurus https://ww.twitch.tv/heygude Cool new listener email: ask@infinitequestpodcast.com Media/Business Email: infinitequestpodcast@gmail.com Find all of our links and cool stuff at: www.infinitequestpodcast.com Get your own podcast by visiting anchor.fm --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/infinitequest/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/infinitequest/support

It's finally here! The 2 year anniversary of the Doombots Podcast will feature a slew of cut content from past episodes. From overly emotional reactions, to discussions about language and the Dewey Decimal system, this episode has it all. Including a lot of immature humor! Come laugh and scream and generally have fun with us as we look back on some shit that was so whacky it didn't make the cut into a regular episode.

Phil Grey is the GM of Waikato community access station Free FM. A constant over his 19 years in the role is embracing change, as well as instigating it. Phil has Dewey Decimal-related PTSD. Please subscribe to the podcast & check www.verbalhighs.com.

Making sense of data is the cornerstone of analytics. Data Catalogs are increasingly a valuable tool for achieving this critical goal. Find out why on this episode of DM Radio, as Host @Eric_Kavanagh interviews Ken Barth, CEO of Catalogic; and Tim Gasper, VP of Product at data.world

This week, Alexis gets non-technical with Naj Austin, the founder and CEO of Somewhere Good, an audio platform for community conversations and Ethel's Club, a wellness space for people of color. They talk about Dewey Decimal, going “full tilt” at EZoo, real life vs. Reddit, Big Grandma Vibes, moving to Greenport (chic), and secret Christmas!!!You can find Naj on Twitter at twitter.com/najjmahal and Alexis at twitter.com/yayalexisgay or instagram.com/yayalexisgay and twitter.com/NonTechnicalPod.This episode is sponsored by Betts Recruiting. If you're a high-performing professional looking for your next opportunity, it's time to become a Betts Connect Community member. Apply to join Betts' exclusive network, and if you're accepted, those tech startups will reach out to YOU. Apply now for your exclusive lifetime membership at bettsrecruiting.com/nontechnical

This week Former Atheneum Librarian Betsy Tyler joins Janet and Jim to talk about the amazing feat of creating the 1900 card catalogue with a cutting edge device called a typewriter and the newly publish method called the Dewey Decimal System.References and more information:Check out Betsy's book The Nantucket Atheneum: A History,  and her latest book A Thousand Leagues of Blue.The Shelves of Yore is a production of the Nantucket Atheneum. It was written, narrated, and edited by Janet Forest and researched by Jim Borzilleri. Voice of Clara Parker by Sammy Aguiar.The Nantucket Atheneum is located at 1 India Street in Nantucket, Massachusetts.Visit us online at www.nantucketatheneum.org

Welcome to Botched: A D&D Podcast! Well, Phil lost another limb. Nothing brings the DM more joy honestly and thank goodness Phil botches so much. At this point I'm guessing they wish they took the elevator with Kip and Sachy…or maybe not. Climbing higher into this castle they will find even more trials and tribulations. We finally get back to the old days of puzzle dungeoning with even traps, puzzles and finally some riddles. Unfortunately (or fortunately) for the listeners they can't hear how long it takes these jack asses to figure these things out. What sort of puzzles await them? Will there be any creatures in this giant castle? What the hell is the Dewey Decimal system? Tune in and find out!

If you enjoy this podcast, please rate this show and leave a review! Even a few words can help. Just go to ratethispodcast.com/openloopsTo catch Open Loops LIVE, make sure you follow our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/OpenLoopsPodLike Open Loops? Buy Greg a cup of coffee here to show your supportJulia Wesley, Spiritual Teacher, Soul Blueprint Aligner, and Akashic Records reader, joins Greg to discuss what some refer to as the greatest living library of all, the library of our collective souls' knowledge.  It's the Akashic Records, as popularized by Edgar Cayce, and Julia shares with Greg how she received her "library card" so she can access these teachings for her clients, as well as her interactions with Guardians of this universal, intergalactic Knowledge, and she tops it off with how your Soul's Blueprint is closer to you than you think (and you don't even need to remember how to do the Dewey Decimal system to connect to it!).  Where bookworms meet the Divine. It's an all-out nerd-fest for the spiritual on this episode of Open Loops! Julia's Website: https://www.divinerealignment.com/

This is the twenty-fifth episode of Check it Out! the Carnegie-Stout Public Library podcast. Do you have questions or comments? Let us know at yourlibrarian@dubuque.lib.ia.us In this podcast you'll hear about upcoming library programs and events, get a tour of 900s section of the Dewey Decimal system, and get some great reading suggestions for all ages for National Native American Heritage Month. We'd love to hear about your favorite books of 2021! Record a short audio file with your favorite books and email it to yourlibrarian@dubuque.lib.ia.us and we'll include it in the December podcast. You can subscribe to Carnegie-Stout's Check It Out! Podcast on most podcast services, including Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Learn more: https://carnegiestout.org/podcast

On this episode of The Book Drop we celebrate National Library Week with tales of the heroes and villains of library world. We also share our librarian origin stories and talk about everyone's favorite OPL branch for query of the week. Check out the OPL events calendar for these upcoming events:OPL Reading Challenge Book Club on Tuesday, April 13th and Thursday, April 15th. Celebrate National Library Week with OPL by asking for an illustrated branch sticker at your local branch or when scheduling your next curbside pick-up appointment. OPL worked with Minnesota-based artist Kevin Cannon to capture the special characteristics of each of OPL's 12 branches. Then share your library love by posting a picture of your sticker to Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter, and tag @OmahaLibrary or include #OmahaLibrary in your post.  All the books, movies, TV, resources and bookish items we talked about in this episode can be found here — http://bit.ly/TBDep46

Hi, I am Here with Jonathan Pritchard. He Founder of the Hellstrom Group; an international consulting company working with clients like BP, State Farm, United Airlines, and more. Focusing mainly on applied psychology in business, communication, and life. here is the full episode hope you enjoy. Listen in your favorite podcast app.  Ari Gronich 0:01 Has it occurred to you that the systems we live by are not designed to get results? We pay for procedures instead of outcomes, focusing on emergencies rather than preventing disease and living a healthy lifestyle. For over 25 years, I've taken care of Olympians Paralympians a list actors in fortune 1000 companies, if I did not get results, they did not get results. I realized that while powerful people who control the system want to keep the status quo, if I were to educate the masses, you would demand change. So I'm taking the gloves off and going after the systems as they are joining me on my mission to create a new tomorrow as I chat with industry experts, elite athletes, thought leaders and government officials about how we activate our vision for a better world. We may agree and we may disagree, but I'm not backing down. I'm Ari Gronich and this is create a new tomorrow podcast. Welcome back to create a new tomorrow. I'm your host, Ari Gronich and with me today, and I have to change my voice for him because he is the magician Jonathan Pritchard. Been on stage with Chris Angel. He's been on stage in war times and good times. He's traveled the world learning the psychology and the experiential mindset of imagination design theory of mind. Jonathan Prichard, tell us who you are. jonathan pritchard 1:42 Hi, hey, glad to be here, man. Thanks for the rockin intro. I just always have to say I was backstage with Chris Angel. I haven't been on stage with him. I was strictly behind the scenes. I got that face for radio kind of thing going on. So yeah. Basically, my my background is I grew up doing magic tricks. When I was a teenager, I got interested in mind reading tricks. And that was my area of specialty. I met my mentor James Randi, who recently passed away, he at the time had a million dollar challenge to anybody who claimed to be genuinely psychic or have supernatural powers like that. Well, you show us then you get a million dollars. And I handled applications and designed testing protocol for that million dollar challenge. And that's when I saw every way that people were trying to scam their way to the money and figured I can do these scams better than they can. And then that's how my showbiz career started. So from there, I have traveled the world entertain the troops overseas, and consulted for some of those big names we'd all recognize. And I used the psychology and skills and principles to make Austin our long show. But I eventually realized, you know, it's nice distracting people from their problems for an hour. But these principles I use onstage can be used offstage to help solve those problems permanently so that you get more interesting problems. Like Alright, I like that process. And from there expanded out to the coaching and speaking and training and, and all that kind of giving people a peek behind the curtain. Look at how your brain works. So that's why I've been able to consult with fortune 500 clients and a whole bunch of training, stuff like that. But it all centers around just being fascinated by how people think. Ari Gronich 3:45 So I want you to unpack for me one thing. I saw it on America's Got Talent, some magician, he was touching Simon's hand, or was it Simon's or I don't know, he was touching either Simon's or the other guy's hand. And then the other person's hand rate rose, because they were mentally connected with their psychic. So I want to unpack that because it always intrigues me. Not when you can pull stuff out of your jacket in weird ways that you can't see. But when are your sleeves or what? But when when you can touch somebody's body and somebody else raises their hand. jonathan pritchard 4:27 All I can say about that is I am really good friends for more than a decade with the guy who came up with that trick. So I will pass along your sentiments to him. That is a trade secret that if you haven't spent a lifetime of self denial, alone in a room to learn those skills and techniques, you you don't have the experience and background to to handle those kinds of secrets. So I'm I'm really saving you from yourself there. Ari Gronich 4:59 Alright, so you're not The man in the black mask, I was just checking to see if you were the man in the black mass. jonathan pritchard 5:05 But know that given what that's Yeah, the the masked magician is is to be a really fascinating story. That's kind of insider baseball trade secret stuff. But it's, it's actually really cool because the the guy who came up with that idea really loves magic. And the explanations for Season One, are really wacky. They're, they're functional, but they're not actually plausible. They weren't actual secrets, he drempt up most of the explanations, but the producers don't have experience in the magic world. So they don't know it's a fake explanation. So they were exposing imaginary secrets, which to me is a hilarious meta con. And it gets famous than they want to do season two, but it's kinda like, well, I'm out of ideas. So let's, let's call this off. They fired him. And that's the thing with a mask. Anybody could wear it. So now, season two and three, they were actually revealing the real work. But yeah, it's kind of when you when you try to control a beast you conjure, it's probably going to destroy you. Ari Gronich 6:20 Yeah, so you know, that gets me to my favorite kinds of topics, which is, how is it that the audience, the people, the citizenry are? So under the spell of the magician's of the systems that we're in? Because psychologically speaking, it doesn't make sense to me? I can see it, why can't you see it? Right? It's like, is my is my way of looking at it. Like, I can see that big agriculture is poisoning our food. Why can't you see that? And why is it? Why is it okay? That you see it? If you see it? And don't care? Like why? What is it about the psychology, the mindset of people, that allows them to be so duped out of doing actions that are in their own self interest that are in their own betterment? jonathan pritchard 7:30 That's a big question. Let me let me try to approach it with with this. Do you have your cell phone next to you? Yeah. All right, would you put it face down? In front of you? Yeah. Right. Because this, this is kind of an experiment to see how your brain works. And kind of based on the numbers, we look at our phones, at least a couple 100 times a day, right? if not more, and you're often going to your main home screen to open up different apps and that kind of thing. So at least 50 ish times of those 200 times you're looking at your phone, you're seeing your home screen. And there are apps, there are widgets, there's a clock somewhere on there, who who cares, right? I want you to think about what icon or widget would be in the upper left hand corner of your main home screen on your phone that you've already seen 20 times today. Okay, so I need to think about what that is. And in just a moment, but not quite yet. Because there's a little bit of process to this. In just a moment. I'm going to turn it over, lighted up. unlock your phone. Check to see if you get it right or wrong. Lock your phone and put it facedown. Okay, well, you got to do so go for it. Got it. Right. Not open, not opening it, though. Well, you open up you unlocked it. But did you get the icon? Correct? Ari Gronich 9:17 I got the icon in the top left. Correct. jonathan pritchard 9:20 Outstanding. All right. So you're a very small percentage of the population. That actually gets it correct. But here's another question. Whether you've got an iPhone or an Android, this is the same no matter what on your lock screen. We all see exactly the same thing, which is the time. So without looking at anything else. What exact time is it? Ari Gronich 9:45 I don't know because I haven't been looking at I wasn't looking at it. jonathan pritchard 9:49 Exactly what you were expecting to see and your fundamental values of what you're looking for. prioritizes What your mind will pay attention to you were, you weren't consciously aware of the time, but it was in your visual field. So you perceived it, but you weren't aware of it, because of what information you were looking for means that you're going to filter out everything that isn't your values. So the values you hold, are your pre cognitive filter, to weed out everything that doesn't match what it is you're expecting to see. And that is a fundamental human process, our brains run off about the same amount of electricity that your your refrigerator light runs on. So you've got to have some shortcuts to be able to navigate this confusing thing called reality. So there are all sorts of assumptions and shortcuts and processes in place to help you not be frozen by having to evaluate every single detail that you could possibly be aware of. So within the context of a bigger issue, like agriculture, or whatever, within the context of your previous experience, you have logical reasons for the assumptions and beliefs that you have that build your filters for your future experiences, that will ensure that only the experiences that reinforce those beliefs are let through the gates. So any kind of knowledge or experience that could challenge those filters are kind of kept out before you're ever even capable of being consciously aware of them, because they passed you by 10 seconds ago, and you weren't aware of it in the first place. So if you're not aware of something, you can't use it, you can't leverage it, you can't apply it. And your mind actively is filtering out everything that doesn't align with what you're looking for. Ari Gronich 12:20 Okay, so I'm going to give you a scenario. You're your smoker. You go into a gas station. You see the cigarettes. You're an ex smoker. You still see the cigarettes. You're a non smoker. When I was a non smoker, I didn't see the cigarettes at all. When I started smoking I was, you know, young at the time, mind you. And when I stopped smoking, I still would see the cigarettes. When I started to identify myself as a non smoker, somebody who does not, I don't smoke, I'm not a smoker. I stopped seeing the cigarettes. I'd still go up to the counter. But I would see maybe, you know, if I liked chocolate bars, I'd see the chocolate bar instead of the, you know, the cigarettes. So that would be like a selective eyesight based on preconceived notions, right. So how do you go through life watching your family members and your friends and stuff have cancer and diabetes and heart disease and stuff and not have it be on top of your mind that you're seeing people sick, you're experiencing sick and not associating that sick with any of the habits, behaviors or situations in front of you. jonathan pritchard 14:04 You are the only person who can build your Kung Fu. I can't learn your Kung Fu for you. And trying to learn your Kung Fu for you is the fastest way to drive myself crazy. Because that's not how reality works. So you can do your due diligence, you can voice your concerns, you can try to express your viewpoint. It's just really difficult for you to force learning onto somebody. And that is kind of a fundamental communication issue. Really, which is why can't you see it my way? It is so perfectly clear to me. Why in the world Can't you see it my way. And in one perspective, your domain Finding that they become the mind reader to see the world through your mind. And they haven't spent a lifetime studying human psychology and communication theory. So expecting them to be able to do these things that are nearly superhuman is trying to measure them with your yardstick never going to happen, what you can do is try to put it in, in terms that they can relate to, so that you could at least feel understood, but you can't learn their lesson for them. Ari Gronich 15:36 Obviously, you can't learn somebody's lesson, and nobody's trying to do that. But I can educate somebody on work, life educates them, and it's not about me, it's about what is in the world that people are seeing. So people see their family and friends dying of cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etc. And they'll still eat massive amounts of sugar, and not worry about, you know, like not care not have a thought that says, maybe the action that I'm taking is a is causing the result that I'm getting. Right? So yes, it's them doing their own Kung Fu, but I'm asking what it is in their own mind. Not anything that I have to say. They're the one experiencing it, they got diabetes, and they're, you know, drinking the soda and eating the sugar. What is it about the mind that makes it so that they are or people in general are so willing to go against their own self interest? Got it. jonathan pritchard 16:48 There's a lot going on, that weaves together to reinforce that behavior. There's a lot that could be going on, too. So that's a difficult thing to nail down as well. But a big part of a lot of our behavior is that it serves some purpose, and is some kind of strategy for need fulfillment. So in some way, their choices are the best strategies, they have to feel important to feel reassured to feel safe to feel connected, to feel valued. Even though it might be a bad strategy is still might be effective. And that's the best way that they know how to fulfill those needs that they've got. So in a way, if they solved those problems, what you're saying is that you're going to remove their strategies to scratch those itches, and to have those needs filled. So you can't really get rid of those strategies, you have to be able to find better strategies to achieve the same outcomes. So that's, that's at the heart of habit changes in in behavioral change, is recognizing what is this doing for me? What am I really getting out of this? And are there better behaviors that will serve me more effectively with fewer downsides. Another angle to that is, most people are using really bad strategies to make change. So the entirely logically consistent belief is that change is impossible. Or change is really difficult, when it's really a measure of an awful strategy that is ineffective to begin with. So then, if everything I do doesn't work, well, then I guess there's nothing that can work. So there's that angle of it. There's another angle, which is sometimes you don't see the negative impact right away. And it's, it's kind of one of those Buddhist things of, you're not punished for your anger, you're punished by your anger. Just the very nature of being angry is itself a damaging experience. That kind of idea. So if, if you're not at that level of discernment and awareness of the impact of your emotional state, your choices it's very difficult to recognize this behavior is immediately bad for me. But most People wouldn't be able to see the effects until it's much, much later. And by then, it's very difficult to tie what action created this outcome. And without that immediate feedback, there's, there's no consequence. I'm doing all these things, and I'm getting away scot free. And it's like, if you're training a dog, you're training a puppy, it needs immediate feedback that that was the right thing to do reinforce that, that was the wrong thing to do. Do not reinforce that. But our cause and effect timeline is from our perception. So distant in time. It's really difficult to relate the consequences to those actions we took last week, six months ago, two years ago. And therefore it gives us the false impression that our actions don't have consequences. And then when the consequences do come do you're going, why did this happen to me? What? Why your universe? This is so out of left field, there's no reason this should happen to me. Sure. Okay. Try selling that somewhere else. I'm not buying it. Ari Gronich 21:26 Yeah, just look at the history of that person. It's interesting. You know, that explains why kids a lot are so willing to you know, eat fast food. I mean, I have kids that they're young. Oh, and, you know, my, my stepdaughters boyfriend said to me the other day, because I asked him why he would be using the microwave, even though he knows that it's not good for him to use the microwave. He's like, I'm young. I'm 20. It doesn't affect me right now. I'll be I'll worry about it when it affects me. Right? He's like, I'm like, Oh, really. So a small effect or a big effect. Right, an imperceptible effect is still an effect of, you know, beyond, right. But I was, I grew up I was a, I call myself a canary in the coal mine. Because I brain tumor when I was really young, and, and symptoms of it that we never knew that it was there until I was 24. symptoms started when I was seven. So I knew that things that I did affected how I felt, right. And so I had a very conscious perception of that at a very young age that the actions that I'm taking, are causing a consequence to, to those actions. And it was immediate, right? It's not like, you know, you have a small gluten intolerance. That doesn't, that causes a minor inflammatory response, not a big one that causes massive stomach pain. Mine was more, you know, things were pretty evident to me. So I was very well trained to become interested in the actions and effects and actions and effects and down the line butterfly effect and things like that. So the question becomes, if the consequence is down the line, how do we get the consequence in their mind? Or how does somebody get the consequence in their mind that their path is leading that way? Because you can't tell a kid that when they're at, they're going to be bent over like this. If they keep looking at the phone all day like this, right? They're gonna be looking at their shoes, they're gonna go, I don't care. I'm straight up right now. Right? So I'm just trying to get like, how do we get the mind to work in a way that is for our benefit instead of for the benefit of our habits and fears? jonathan pritchard 24:16 What's the saying the best way to move a river is at its source. The earlier you can change the greater effect it'll have over time. That's just how it works. In idiot can't learn from their own mistakes. A normal person will learn from their own mistakes, a genius can learn from other people's mistakes. Most normal people require multiple exposures to their own bad choices before they're ever even aware of a choice being made in the first place. And the lesson will continue showing up at louder and louder Levels until it's at the limit of where they can be aware of it. Because the same level of thinking that creates that level of problems isn't going to change. So they can move, they can change environments. But that same decision making structure is still in place. So you'll make the best decisions you could make, which will create those level of problems that you're used to dealing with. So the consequences just keep showing up again and again until that person goes, oh, maybe I'm the problem here. And that, that sometimes can take a lifetime to come to Ari Gronich 25:42 right. So that sounds a little bit like the horse I know is better than the horse I don't know, kind of thing or jonathan pritchard 25:49 it's, it's that beautiful BF Skinner is is a fascinating character to me. He was a behavioral psychologist and an operant conditioning. So we've got Pavlovian conditioning, which is very straightforward. Ring Bell salivate, okay, it's now the bell ringing is associated with food, therefore, the food trigger happens with the bell. Okay, very straightforward. BF Skinner took that a little farther. And what he did was, this part's a bummer, he would starve pigeons to like 75% of their body weight, so they're very food motivated. Okay, he puts them in a little cage box, and there's a lever that the bird could pack. And then food drops out. Very simple, classical conditioning setup here, where if bird hits lever, then food drops out. And very quickly, the bird fingers spat out, kind of go, oh, if I want food, I hit the lever. Okay, my, my input is required for food output. Awesome, I got it. This box is the limit of experience for this bird. The birds context. The whole thing is the box. That's it. bf Skinner's context is the laboratory. And Skinner changes the logic of the box from the lever to an interval of time set to random. So it might be five minutes, this time, it might be 30 seconds next time, totally random. To drop out the food. The food is no longer connected to the to the lever. The bird lacks the contextual awareness to realize that that change has been made. So within the context, the birds experience, food drops out. It's logical belief is I needed to do something for that food to drop out because I've seen that happen 100 times already. So I guess now whatever it was I was just doing is the thing that I need to do to get the food to drop out which at that point was looking over my right shoulder. Okay, so let me let me try that out. I'm going to try this hypothesis looks over my right shoulder and nothing happens. Mm, okay, maybe I didn't do it hard enough. This time, boom, I look over my right shoulder and food drops out. See I knew it. I knew it was looking over my shoulder. You now have a superstitious pigeon. Straight up superstitious pigeon. From its experience, that is a completely logical belief system that is in alignment with its reality. But it's it's not real. But it makes sense. So the bird can't think outside the context of its experience. So back to the question you asked. It's that a person who doesn't expose themselves to new ideas to other perspectives will always be limited to their pre existing structure of assumptions, that the only logical outcome will always be the same belief and decision making. Those are the decisions you make that are your best strategies that will always result in the kinds of problems that you're used to dealing with. Because the problems you're used to dealing with are a result of the quality and strategy of your thinking. So without changing that fundamental structure, you can't help but end up at the same conclusions, the same problems. And those problems are there as a as just a blaring, like foghorn of, Hey, this is the natural consequence of being you right now. If you want better problems, you've got to change the way you think about your opportunities, your relationships, reality, the only thing that can change is your relationship with reality. SATs when you get cooler problems, that's when things change. But that's why you're not going to level up when you're making the same choices. And like, I've had that happen my own life, the best idea I've got. It keeps playing out over two to three years. But I wind up in exactly the same positions, exactly the same problems. It's just that the actors are different, but it's exactly the same script. I'm the only common denominator here. So what am I doing to create these experiences? Okay. Ari Gronich 31:22 So that's, as I said, that sounds a lot like, you know, the saying, Why am I always attracting the same thing in relationship? or Why am I always attracting the same experience in business? Why, you know, why does this happen to me over and over again? Right, I hear that question a lot. I know that, you know, for me, in business there, there's always been a lot of ups and downs, because my experience was, when my parents, when I was young, my parents got into business with somebody, and he ended up stealing their entire business and everything from them, to where we had to move out of my house, we had to the house, my dad actually had built, we had, you know, we were left with nothing and, and had to rebuild. And so I learned, people are unreliable, they will steal for you, if they have an opportunity, they'll take advantage of you if you're nice. Right? So I have all, you know, it was like all these sets of beliefs that would then later on in life, it didn't happen. When I wasn't in business, it happened only when I went into business, but later in life, I start, you know, I recreated those things. Right. So then the question becomes, how does one when they get that awareness that that's happening, then what are some of the techniques they can use to then shift that perspective? Like some actual tangible techniques, if you if you have any, but to shift the so that, okay, I recognize that pattern. I don't like the pattern, but I don't know how to stop the pattern. So how do we how do we get to that stop the pattern and then to the shift into a new, more healthy or what, you know, cleaner, kind of Yeah, jonathan pritchard 33:29 it goes back to the cause and effect, that is such a difficult thing to do, because that pattern might happen six months earlier, before its consequences are loud enough for you to be able to hear them. And by then it's difficult to recognize the state you were in six months ago that led to the choices that led to the six months later consequences. So it's, it's really difficult. This is not easy stuff. It can be simple. Once you understand that it's fairly direct, and it makes sense. But it doesn't mean it's easy. Another thing is to recognize that these are the beliefs, behaviors and systems of decision making, that you've had for a lifetime. And you've had that long to get really good at thinking that way. Thinking is a skill being you is a skill. making the choices that feel right is a skill. And the more you make those choices, the more natural those choices feel. And that's a big part of why you keep making them. Because this is clearly the best way to make this choice. This is clearly my best option. This is the one that feels right. feels right because it's the one you're most familiar with the one you're best at doing. That's why it's the best. It kind of takes a genius to be able to wake yourself up. It's very, very useful to have a mentor, or some external third party person who isn't living in the same context as you are. So that they can recognize those patterns before you do to be able to give you those pattern interrupts of, Hey, why are you doing it that way? What do you mean? I'm, I'm doing it that way. I'm not doing it that way. Yeah, you're you're actually right in the middle of doing it that way. Look, exactly what you're doing. Oh, my god, you're right. I, I am Wait, what? How did I get here what's happening, right kind of wake you up in the middle of that, that natural process. And a big part of it is recognizing that changing your behavior is not going to feel natural. Every instinct you have will tell you that this is wrong. And that this is not the right way to do things. And it will feel like you're dying is basically it. Because what's dying are those ideas that are living in the energy of of your imagination in mind, that are feeding off your decision energy that keeps them alive. So those ideas are going to fight tooth and nail to make sure that you don't kill them. But that's what happens when you start making different choices. You're starting to give that energy to new ideas, the old ideas are not going to go quietly into the night. So just recognize that doing a better strategy. At first is going to feel more uncomfortable and unfamiliar than riding a unicycle and juggling fire. Just know that that's part of the process. Ari Gronich 37:17 That sounds like fun, actually, I'm a Burning Man guy. So I like juggling fire and jonathan pritchard 37:23 a reason I have the the fire juggling tattoo. Ari Gronich 37:27 Absolutely. So So then the question becomes to change your habits. Sometimes we need to change our circumstances, our environment and the people we're around, right? Because we're around people who are like we were or like we are but not like we want to be necessarily. So the uncomfortability that people tend to have when it when it when they're changing or when somebody is changing around them. And the pullback though, the the crab box, you know, like we always are pulling people down instead of lifting them up. So you've got to find people who are where you want to go. Right? And that way you have those mentors and those people who can point out to you and say, so the question becomes at that point, why would those people want to be around you? Because they have to, they have to decide, am I going to mentor this person, I'm going to, you know, beyond our current culture of everybody's a coach and pay me and I'll help you, right? Everybody's, I'm a mentor. But if you have to pay me 50,000 to mentor you. It used to be that was just like, the way that we grew up in the world was we would you know, somebody above would take somebody below and say, Here, come with me. And let's go do this together. Let me teach you let me train you. Let me see. But and, you know, you get the idea that in this current world that we live in, it's difficult to find somebody who's at that level that says, you know, like Andrew Carnegie saying to Napoleon Hill, I will mentor you, you just, you know, go right about it, learn about it. Let's do this. Right. So how to that kind of? Well, you heard the question. jonathan pritchard 39:41 Yeah, there are a couple very, very subtle distinctions that that I think are important to, to nail down. Which is you're right, the crab bucket mentality and people dragging you down because you're useful reassurance. They're to say, like, whatever they're getting out of you being the you You are now, you'll be taking that from them by changing your situation. So there's that to be aware of the danger. The caution I want to pin down is, wherever you go, there you are. And if you make the mistake of believing, changing your environment alone, is what's needed for you to be different you that will quickly turn back into the you, you're used to, because you brought you with you wherever you went, right. So wherever it is, you go very soon, way faster than you think you are making the choices to recreate exactly the same dynamic you ran away from in the first place. So a change of environment is a useful pattern interrupt to hiccup, so that you can take stock of my natural next instinct is to do this. And that way, the same patterns are there, the environments different. So that gives you a chance to recognize those patterns. So that's why it's useful for environment changes. But changing your environment doesn't change you. You bring yourself along with you. So there, that's just kind of the one of the distinctions I want to make, which is, you can't run away, you're not going to go to a new city and start all over again. And things will be different this time. No, six months later, you'll be right back in the same same spot. So the next detail is about well, how in the world do you get a mentor, especially nowadays, the internet and that kind of a thing. Having an in person mentor is awesome. Having direct relationships with them is awesome. But books are the world's best thinkers throughout all written history that you have to learn from. And it's getting mind reading lessons from the world's most effective people. So they have generously distilled a lifetime's worth of valuable insight into a couple of 100 pages that you can read in eight hours. So that same 50,000 hour $50,000, you would need to pay to sit down with Mark Cuban or whoever, for eight hours, you could buy it for five bucks on on Kindle. So there's that angle to it. The other angle is why in the world, with some world class achiever want to hang out with a loser like me. That is a very logical belief, that is a very reasonable thing to keep you away from making those connections. totally makes sense. Doesn't have to be real. But it's logical. And that's the real thorny part of this. All the stuff that's gonna derail you. totally makes sense. It feels right. It's it's logical. Like, yeah, you just built a great case for why this will never happen. But look at that, dude, he shows you that it doesn't have to happen, it can go a different way. So I like to kind of explain that idea. In the context of I just did my mind reading show 70 minute migrating show comedy bringing people up on stage in front of a roomful of people. That's a very uncomfortable situation for a volunteer to be in. But I helped them feel like a million bucks. I set them up for success. I can calm them down, build that rapport, that trust very quickly, the whole whole nine yards. So you do the show. Standing ovation. Okay, I've had some of those to definitely had some of those. So, afterwards, there's going to be three types of people that come talk to me. The first one is going to say, How did you do that trick? Tell me that trick with the hands and touching the hands. How does that work? And then I say it's a mystery. Oh, man, it's woof. Isn't that a good trick? Huh? That's that's level of their interest. The second person will go You know, I've always been interested in mind reading and mentalism and the psychology of humans and, and I'm just super fascinated about it. And then I go Okay, what what books have you read? Like, oh, I, I don't even know where to start. I go, Okay, well, here's a good book to check out. Here's a good book to check out. Here's a good resource, your library 790 8.3 or 790 3.8, whatever, whatever that number is, is the Dewey Decimal number for magic and in games. That's it at libraries. It's sitting right there at your county library. been there for decades, same books since 1950s. Alright, so gave them their lead. The third person will go man, that was a great show loved it. I've been interested in mentalism. And I've read this book. And this trick in that book is my favorite, but I just can't get it to work right? Then I go, I'm sorry, everybody. autograph line is done. I'm going to have to hang out this person, because try to shut me up. Walking that person through. Okay, so your thumb is a little like it's two millimeters away from the perfect position. Now, put it right here. It doesn't that feel like oh, yeah, I can do the thing. So there are a lot of people who demand the answers, go find them yourself. A lot of people want answers, here's where to find them. Here are the answers I've already been searching for, and been trying. And here, here, the frustrations I've had. I'm going to mentor that third person, that third person has already demonstrated that my time is not going to be wasted, by virtue of them already doing what it is that they need to do to win. So coaches want to coach winners. They don't want to they don't want to coach losers, right? You just don't. So make yourself valuable, demonstrate that you're coachable. Don't Don't argue with the person who's already been doing this for 30 years, and can do this in their sleep. So fight the urge to argue with the person who is provably better at doing these things than you are. Because I'm not interested in debating. I'm not interested in arguing. I was a I was competitive debater in high school and college, through all of it. I was a competitive debater, that was the fun time for me to do that. I'm no longer interested in that I'm now interested in creating and building and giving other people the tools and techniques and strategies to build success for themselves. That's what I'm interested in. If you're interested in arguing with me about that's not the way I see it, great, then I don't need to mentor you. And a lot of people make themselves unmaintainable by by fighting to keep their old ways of losing that they will they will give everything they have to hold on to the way they've always done it. And why in the world? Am I going to care more than they do about their problems? So no. So do what you can with what you got. And just do that day in day out. And that's how you show that, hey, I will actually take to heart what you're going to teach me and I want to implement what it is you can show me. The other side of that equation, though the cautionary side is nobody. And I mean, no human being can think outside the box. When somebody says we need to think outside the box, they don't know what they're talking about. Because we're all pigeons in that cage. The only thing you can do is crawl out of your box into somebody else's slightly larger box. The instant you start applying their strategies and advice, you begin building their box. So if the person giving you advice is living a life you wouldn't trade for. ignore it. That's the final litmus test of would I give up everything I have to live the life that persons living. If not, you can completely ignore the advice they're trying to give you because the moment you start listening to it and In making those decisions that are in alignment with what they would do, you're going to start getting the same consequences they do, whether that's getting fabulously rich and wealthy, maybe that's getting rich and wealthy and a horrible home life and their wife hates them. consequences are positive and negative. They're just the natural byproduct of the decisions you make. So make sure that the consequences are worth what they're going to cost you, which is everything that you have right now. Ari Gronich 50:33 Yeah, I call I call it I talked about that in my book with the butterfly effect. I call it nuanced thinking and and, you know, following a path, it's the same thing and operational planning is, what are the actions and then what are the consequences to the consequences to the consequences to the consequences of the one action that was all the way back over here. And, and sometimes it's good, I tell my son, actually, you know, like, there's consequences to everything. If you're late for, you know, get in your car, when it's parked at a parking meter, you're going to get a ticket, if you don't do your homework, it's, you're, you're going to have a consequence, if you do your homework, you're going to have that consequence of learning and growing and changing. And I try to give him that kind of a philosophy. He's seven years old, but he is so smart, so he can understand the words that I'm saying and what I'm telling him. And, and yeah, I find I find that to be really fascinating. What I also find fascinating is how few people even recognize the consequence to their action, long after the action is done, or right away, you know, and what you said earlier is is true that sometimes that consequence comes much later. And it's harder to put the start point of the origin with with the answer. But, you know, Jim Rohn, used to say, you can, you know, you plan, like, say a five year plan. And you say, here's the goal, here's where I'm going. And then within five years, you get there, you're going to get somewhere in five years, you can either have go to a well designed location, or an undesigned location. Right. And so the the consequences of your actions today are five years down the road, it's, it's a way so just backtrack, the goal backtrack, what you want to do. I also like the the conversation that you're talking about needs because everything every action is a response to get a fundamental need met. And I don't think myself included, that majority of people actually write a needs list for anything that they do specifically. So whether it's a relationship, they might say, here's a trait list I want in the person, but not a needless, what is it that I need from a relationship? What is it that I need? From my business? What is it the lifestyle, the need of the lifestyle I want to live What's the need of the health I want to have? And, and and bringing it back to that is that would be a fundamental way to shift the actions is to recognize Okay, here are my fundamental needs which may or may not shift at some point as you grow older and and so on. But it's an interesting thing. I have you know, you brought up things like mentalist you know as far as a profession What do you think of the TV show mentalist or psych or even lied to me? You know, where, where they're talking about body language and what what intrigues me is the amount of information they can gather from the body language and so forth. Do you have any techniques or skills that help somebody become more observant of their surroundings become more and it kind of goes back to that phone thing that you talked about earlier when you had me look at the phone to become that hyper focused where you can see the nuance of an environment? jonathan pritchard 54:40 Yeah, I I am not being trite. I am being ultra literal here, which is they are able to notice so much because they read the script. And I mean, to say Sat. The body language narrative is a useful tool to instill the belief that I can do things that you can't. It's predicated on a fundamental misunderstanding of reality, though. If you were to press any of these body language experts, they the the Balian mode, kind of like, Oh, I'm going to advance this. And then when you attack me, I'm going to retreat to my mode. Right? That process is they claim to be a body language expert. And here's, I know, because here's how human body language works. that argument, though, is founded on the belief that there are universal displays of human emotion, that a smile is always a smile. A frown is always a frown. In that kind of a thing. There are zero, universally applicable human displays of emotion. They are always contextually relevant. Always. So there's, there's no one behavior, that always means the same thing. To put it simply, that fundamentally undermines the entire structure that these body language experts build their, their life on. Right? So then they retreat to Well, I don't I'm not saying that, Jonathan, I mean, that I'm just really good at reading the situation. So why are you taking a two second clip from a three hour conversation? And then espousing that I have a rocky relationship with my my dad? Like, it's it's all hogwash. It's made up. It's, it's modern day phonology. It's tarot cards. It's Barnum statements. So I fundamentally disagree with a lot of body language experts, and the entire structure of their business. Having said that, within the context of a performance, a mind reading show, I'll use that as a useful narrative. To give my audience something to hold on to that explains how I'm able to know these things about somebody when the real method is I stole the information somehow. So it's a useful narrative, to give your mind an explanation. And once your mind has an explanation, it stops looking for the explanation. Ari Gronich 58:09 Right? You're placated. jonathan pritchard 58:10 Yes, you go, I need an answer. Here you go. Oh, I have an answer. Now, my worlds okay. He waved his hand and snapped his fingers. That's how it worked. It sounds stupid when it when you say it out loud in your life. I know that can't be what it is. But your non conscious mind, the mind that filters out the experience, the one that operates off of a lifetime's worth of Yes, how it works, totally buys it totally buys it. So that that's my cautionary tale, which is to say, be aware of those assumptions, that you know what's going on? Because a little knowledge is really dangerous. Ari Gronich 58:56 Right? So the one I hear a lot is your arms are crossed, right? Mm hmm. Yep. Closed to this conversation because your arms are crossed. And so you're closing off and saying no, yeah. Yeah. You know, I could be cold. I again, like Like you said, I could be cold and you know, I could be cold. I could be just like resting on on my belly, you know, place to put my hands I can be as you are, you know, just comfortable and leaning on the, you know, jonathan pritchard 59:29 yes. My chair doesn't have armrests. I gotta, Ari Gronich 59:32 yeah, I don't have them. If I were to read body language. If I were to go by this script, so to speak, I'd say you're closed off right now. If I were to go by my intuition, I'd say he's relaxed. He's open in the conversation. He's having a good time. He's making eye contact. You know, even with the camera, not with me, but you know, I mean, yeah, that's, that's an nuanced way of looking at it versus a prescribed way of looking at it. Right? jonathan pritchard 1:00:05 Right. The Yeah, the the, the way that it works, where you can build it to help you is number of times you've been in this certain kind of dynamic. I've been in my show more than 1000 times. And I have 100 times 1000 data points of picking somebody who's actively scowling. And so within the American context, within the smaller context of my show, within the even smaller context of my audience, in the smaller, smaller context of that audience member, over the years, when I pick somebody who looks like that, my show tends to go wrong. It tends to go very poorly, because 10 times out of 10, I go, you know what, Jonathan, maybe you're just reading too much into this. Maybe he's just cold baby, he's, so let me bring him up. And then every time I bring that kind of person up, that they are not a good experience for the show. And as a steward of the experience for my audience, I'm doing my audience a disservice by picking that person again and again. So what what you can do is look for the baseline of what that person's normal is, then your pattern recognition will be real good at being able to notice deviations from that, that normal. So that's why it's really difficult for a magician or a mentalist to successfully execute a trick with their best friend or family members, or people that spend all day every day you go, I am the great Jonathan Pritchard from and they're like, Jonathan, shut up, I changed your diapers, man, like just stop it and be like, they they know the affectation, right? From the everyday me. So if there's some sort of tick, or weirdness or tension in my shoulder, because I'm uncomfortable, because I'm about to do the tricky move, they will be able to feel that difference. Even if they're not able to point out, Hey, your your right shoulder came up as you were dealing, you need to be aware of that, they'll still be able to go there was something weird. I don't know what it was. But that didn't. I didn't feel like magic that felt like you were trying to do something. And then if I can pull it off with a family member, I know that that skill is is locked down cold, we go all right now there's no chance an audience member is going to be able to perceive that difference from my baseline. All right. Ari Gronich 1:03:16 Right. So I used to do, I'm a hypnotist certified clinical hypnotist, apparently hypnotherapist and I did take the stage course and how to do stage hypnosis. And I'm, I'm pretty good at at picking the right person that is going to be inducible. And, and stuff for fast. Induction Right. Which, by the way, a fast induction is not as fast as it looks, because everything that they said every bit of what they did before they did the induction was the induction. So just as a cautionary tale. But what I was I you know, I've not ever been able to do is somebody who knew me for more than a year. I could never get if, if I if I knew them for more than a year. They knew me they weren't they were they were just wanting to prove that I couldn't do it. Right. Versus versus the opposite. So I totally get that. That's kind of like, you know, the horse, you know, again, the horse you know versus the horse you don't know. When you don't know something. You can be surprised by it. When you know something and absolute. There's nothing to surprise you. So being in the place of allowing a surprise is the place of being curious. And the place of being curious is wanting to have knowledge that you do not currently have or Wanting to extend the knowledge that you do currently have, right? So jonathan pritchard 1:05:04 absolutely. Ari Gronich 1:05:05 So in your line of work, you know, like the things that you do on a daily basis besides the practice besides the stage performing? What is it that you what is like, if there were three things or four things that you can point to that you tell all of your clients that you say to all of the people that are kind of recurring themes? What are those recurring themes that, that you absolutely, you know, that are absolute for you. jonathan pritchard 1:05:45 Learn Kung Fu. Really, all of what we're talking about is concrete. And physics level true. And you learn that the first time you get punched in the face. I don't care what your mindset is, I don't care what your vision board is, I don't care what your motivation was, I don't care how you were feeling. I don't care what you wanted. I don't care what you intended to do. None of that matters, because you just got punched in the face. And you realize that none of that stopped it from happening. And your instructor who loves you enough to punch you in the face, is teaching you something extraordinarily valuable, which is none of that other stuff matters. If you can't even get out of the way of what's happening to you. So learning to control your base layer, your physical layer of reality is step one ground level for being able to affect any other kind of change at more and more abstract levels. So, learn how to stand, learn how to be balanced, learn how to move in a coordinated fashion, in a disciplined system way. The process of developing that skill set is kind of a holographic or fractal or multi level application, however you want to put it, the process of learning that level of it will be the context that you can now apply to your emotions, or your thoughts, or your breath, or your energy or your time. All those other more abstract levels are more difficult to manage, than learning to stand up, right? So having a physical discipline is your most valuable context to explore all these, what sound like abstract ideas, but really, their fundamental truths that you can prove to yourself by virtue of learning how to not get punched in the face. So everybody goes, Oh, Jonathan, what should I do about this? I'm feeling this way or that and then you can always bring it back down to if somebody were trying to punch you in the face in this way. What would you do about it? Well, they shouldn't be punching me in the face. Well, they are. You're fighting reality right? Now. You're refusing to accept what is real. And only by perceiving what is real? Can you do anything about it? So that doesn't matter right now. They're punching you in the face? What are you going to do about it? Well, I don't want them to punch me in the face. That's a logical thing to feel. And that's not going to stop them from punching you in the face. Their fist is coming at you. It's even closer now. Because you've wasted time wondering why they're doing it, and how it makes you feel and why they should or should not be doing this. And none of that stuff matters. What do you do about it? So that, to me is the world's fastest way to cut through all the chicanery and the the whatnot, that's holding you back from doing things differently than how you've always wanted to do them. Because in that context, you can try out those strategies. That usually takes six months to play out. It can take half a second, and then you try it again, and it still doesn't work. Then you try it again, and it still doesn't work. You try it again. And it works even worse that time. And you're proving to yourself, oh, my best strategies are actually pretty awful. So maybe I should think about doing things differently. Okay, teach, what do I do in this situation? All right, well, you got to make sure you maintain your balance, you got to coordinate your structure, you have to move in a United Way with intention. That's the only way that you can interact with reality and survive contact. So, so legit, have some sort of physical practice, and self defense, or martial arts or whatever, is the most fundamental rock solid foundation that you can build from. Nice, yeah, Ari Gronich 1:10:51 I've been a martial artist since I was five. I used to work with the PAL program in Santa Monica. And just kind of funny story is, we were we were training. The pal program is the police activities league. And we were training a bunch of kids that were part of the program. So we teach them school stuff, and then, you know, mentor them on school, and then we would teach them martial arts. And for that privilege, we got to do some adult play with the cops. So we, you know, gun takeaway weapons works and things like that. And I was, I was training one of the the newer adults in, in the class, in self defense. And basically, he was doing a punch to the face, but he would do an angle, so he wouldn't be coming towards my face. Right. So he was not allowing me to block or to do anything, because I could just stand there and I would never get hit. So jonathan pritchard 1:12:07 do me a favor, right? Ari Gronich 1:12:08 I would tell him, you got to hit me in the chin, you got to go straight for my chin was straight for my chin straight for my chin. And eventually, he did. And he hit me square on the chin. And I was like, I just said, Good. Now you're getting it. Right. He didn't want to work with me again. I want him in the gym. But I'm like, you have to do the movement towards the person in a way that's reality based so that they can in reality go to the defense of themselves. Right. So anyway, it's just an interesting story that goes along with what you're saying. And the chicanery. And as we heard people say, the mishegoss, which means meetings, the craziness of it all. You know, it is actually a really good thing for people to do is train their body to be in a battle. I mean, the benefit is that the majority of people who are who learn martial arts will never get in a fight ever, in their life. Because the aura that they put off the the positioning of their body that the way that they stand and walk just says to people, not the person for me to mess with, right. So it's not about enjoying the fight. It's about the persona, the personality. You know, I tell people, I think we need to get people back into a draft of some sort, whether it's military draft, or civil service, some kind of Peace Corps, it should be a mandatory thing to serve the country and create that kind of level of care for the community and society around you. Right. But also, the discipline of the military is is a good aspect to learn as long as you're not losing yourself in the process.You know, yeah, you've got to have a system that sets you free, rather than a system that creates a robot clone of somebody else. Right. And what I loved about Bruce Lee was move like water, you know, like water is you move like water, you flow like what? No set discipline, all of them mix together and then put into action. weigh that anything that comes at him, he's ready for because he didn't train to be rigid, he trained to flow like water. And so you know, good in your mind as well in your body. But what you were saying, you know true that in many cases it starts in the body, the body creates the environment for the mind to thrive. If you have an unhealthy body, you're going to have probably an unhealthy mind or at least a less healthy, less optimized mind. So what would you say? If somebody was at your show? And they start heckling you and telling your tricks from from the audience? What is you know, like, that would be to me a punch in the face, right? So how, how would you because I want you to kind of demonstrate a punch in the fight face and you know, a swerve kung fu is like Aikido is kind of like, use their energy. Right? So how would you How would you deal with that? I wanted to liven it up a little bit. jonathan pritchard 1:16:19 Yeah. One of my kind of Wing Chun Kung Fu, sayings comes to mind, which is the best self defense is to not be their second best is learn Kung Fu. In a way, I just don't show up for that. So at a more fundamental level, I don't get hecklers anymore. Because I don't design my show in a way that encourages them. And I, I, it might look like a punch to somebody else. It might look like a heckler to somebody else. I just see them trying to hug me real good kind of reframe of what's happening. So very rarely do I ever get somebody who's genuinely heckling. Most of the time, if it's a show stopping event, and it's derailing the experience, it's mainly because that person drank too much. And they lacked the context to understand their way of interacting is not helping everybody have a good time. So there's that part of it. And I want to meet that person with love. And that's another angle to the martial arts thing, which is, you don't have to be angry at your opponent. And it doesn't even have to be an opponent. Sometimes the people you love the most are the closest with the most opportunity to hurt you. And you can't slam their head into the wall, in self defense. So you've got to be really skillful at maintaining your boundaries and your safety, while maintaining the physical well being and emotional well being and intellectual well being of the people you care about. So your natural instinct doesn't have to be annihilate this person. Most performers, and especially comedians, that's their deal, man. I had a heckler last night and I got killed it man, I just shut them down. I'm bares them in front of their wife. It was awesome. Right? Like that's their go to is to meet that interaction with destruction. It's that's not my jam. I've designed my my show, my two day workshops, my keynotes, everything essentially follows this same formula, which is right up front. Greet the audience with warmth, and genuine love and appreciation. Because I know how I make a living is an absolute gift. It's an honor, and a privilege. And the moment I take that for granted, it's all over. So I can't ever be a diva. I am supremely appreciative of the way I get to live my life and have built it. So there's that. So when I walk out on stage, that's the vibe. I playfully accentuate the Yes, yes. You don't know it yet. But I deserved every bit of that applause Thank you, thank you, that kind of thing. They kind of go, okay, he he's got a sense of humor about it, but he's confident I get it. So that's a good establishing line. thin, I do things that the audience can't do. Just right up front. All right, everybody. Let's try this thing together. And then I can do it. Nobody else can. And without saying it explicitly, I say Look, I can do things you can't. And the audience gets it because they just watched it happen. They go against you could do things I can't All right. He's, he's the guy that can do things. I get it. Okay. So that gets communicated right up front. And I need to fulfill that expectation that the audience has. We're gonna see a guy who could do things I can't. That's what they want to see happen, right? Like, that's almost literally what they're paying money for, is to see a guy read minds, I can't remind. So this dude says he could read minds. He better reads minds, man, right. So you have to do what they're expecting to fulfill that checkbox. All right, I got my money's worth. I came to see my greeting show. What do you just did some cool stuff. All right. Everything from here is gravy. I want that done as quickly as possible. Because then I shift to Yeah, yeah, it all makes sense that I can do these things. Because I've spent a lifetime learning to do them. I learned to juggle fire when I was 13 years old hammer nails at my nose when I was 15. Eat fire when I was 18. I've got a whole laundry list of weird skills. And none of that is unexpected. Because I'm the dude on stage here. To me, it's more interesting. To help you guys see what you can do. The whole rest of the show is me being the facilitator of making the audience members, the stars of the show. They are the agents of action. They're the person that predicts the future. They're the person that that does everything. So everything I do is focused on highlighting them as the important person. And now I'm kind of like the talk show host. Sure. Everybody knows this Johnny Carson show. Everybody knows it's Jay Leno. Everybody knows it's Letterman. Those are the names. But they're interesting because their guests, and you watch the show, because the interesting conversations they have. So now who's going to heckle me. Because I'm just there to make their friend look good. And now if there is a heckler, or somebody who is interacting in a not okay way within the confines of this performance, I am now in a position to stick up for my friend who's on stage. And I go, Listen, man, this is not easy to do. This is a scary spot to be in. And my friend right here is doing a phenomenal job. And I'm not going to let you steal this moment from them. So if you can't respect that this person is doing something very difficult, right? Now, I'm going to ask you to leave. Because we don't do that here. And then they go, Oh, I didn't know I was being that kind of an idiot. And you're like you were being that kind of an idiot. So I'm giving you this one opportunity, explicitly outlining what behavior I expect from you, which is to sit down, shut up, and clap when it's time. That is the appropriate way to interact with the show right now. That kind of thing, right? The number of times that I've had to do that infinitesimal compared to the number of times I haven't had to do that. But when you structure your show that way, it's no longer Look at me because I'm the cool man. And now it's a contest of wills. That's just inviting the alpha male in the audience who has the identity of I'm the most interesting person in this room. Right, like, and now that Jonathan guy is making me feel threatened, because my girlfriend is watching him instead of me. And now I need to lash out and I need to attack. Oh, it's fake. You're a phony, right? That's the root of that heckling, is threatening that person's identity as whatever. So I don't come out claiming to be the thing that would threaten them. And suddenly that behavior doesn't happen. Ari Gronich 1:24:14 So let's translate that as as kind of the last bit of cool advice. let's translate that to business and life. Right? So you have a template when you go on stage. People don't have a template to live their life, but they can make one. So give us some some hints on how somebody can make a better template. Well, I'm not going to qualify it with better or worse but can make a template for their life. That creates audience participation versus the kind of heckling and interaction right? So lifes participation going with your template versus being a thorn in the template. jonathan pritchard 1:25:10 It's cliche, but for a reason it works. Which is to be more interested in other people than being

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Beth List, the director of library services for the Lee County Library, talks about how they've adapted to the pandemic to continue to offer books, internet and other services to the community. She also answers questions we all want to know about the library (Dewey Decimal system, anyone?) and shares updates on upcoming events.  The Rant also discusses the most recent edition of The Rant Monthly, the demolition of a historic home on Hillcrest Drive and more.

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Guess What Guys, Happy 20!! Ms. D opens the show w/reviews & special announcement! She is joined by her B*shessss, Free & Steph & celebrate the pod’s goals checked off!  Not even the tiny audio hiccups killed our Lit Vibes!!  We talk Movements, We #saytheirnames, We talk all sorts of Entanglement Goya trends. We share our thoughts on Kanye in our best Cardi B voice & Free’s best Kim K impersonation. Who remembers the Dewey Decimal?  Ms. D gets As Raw As It Gets for the questions that her listeners sent her … Tune in for this Double or Nothing Q & A !  For a dose of StephyKiss on IG @_stephykiss & tune in to her show @fineandthickpod.   For a dose of Free on IG @_kvngfree_ & Twitter @_kvngfree_   Mentions (IG pages):  Paint Night was a Success thanks to @thegoldeneasel   For a dope couple-podcast follow on IG @anothershotpodcast   Check out @getbodiedbyj & @monyettashaw    Don’t forget to Subscribe, Rate & Review & let me know all your #RawTalk :  Podcast:  @doubledose_of_rawtalk  Host: @doubledose_of_ms.d  Contact: doubledose.of.rawtalk@gmail.com to share your story & need a dose of advice *can be anonymous* Resources to not Forget!! The conversations continue!!  Visit & continue to educate yourselves! Black Lives Matter   Visit Human Rights Campaign Greater NY  & DACA Updates   Sign The Petitions Breonna Taylor  & Elijah McClain   Music: Basic Implosion by Kevin MacLeod Link:https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3420-basic-implosion License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

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(https://www.patreon.com/topiclords) Lords: * Elena is on the Topic Lords Discord and recommends https://buriedwithoutceremony.com/monsterhearts * Shannon lives in a cave and recommends https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modelland Topics: * 2:14 Lucid dreaming and/or recurrent dreams - do you have them? * Can't find the link for Dream Wikipedia here but I'll keep looking. https://wikimediafoundation.org/support/ * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilitymonster * 14:04 Eight kinds of fun. * https://theangrygm.com/gaming-for-fun-part-1-eight-kinds-of-fun/ * Real-play podcasts: * https://critrole.com/podcast/ * http://friendsatthetable.net/ * https://maximumfun.org/podcasts/adventure-zone/ * The Kiri. https://criticalrole.fandom.com/wiki/Kiri * 30:05 Your favorite Dewey Decimal System category? * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ListofDeweyDecimalclasses * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BancroftLibrary * 43:55 NotAButtFace asks "Being 'The Guy With The Hats' to future proof your identity against going bald" * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trichotillomania * 55:25 Plants * "Kale, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, and cabbage are all varieties of a single magical plant species" https://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/8/6/5974989/kale-cauliflower-cabbage-broccoli-same-plant Microtopics: * Not remembering what you were going to say about the topics you picked. * Finding a tabletop RPG system to support your supernatural teen romance. * A novel written by Tyra Banks that is basically Harry Potter but for supermodels. * Being aware that you're dreaming but not having control and just being annoyed that you have to spend so long in your fake life. * Dreaming about recording a podcast before waking up and recording the real world podcast and ending up with two podcasts. * Your dream friends being rude to you because you are rude to yourself. * Realizing you are in a dream and trying to convince your dream friends to do what you want but instead they convince you to do what they want because they will die as soon as you wake up. * Improving your dream friend's lives in your recurring Disneyland dream until they have the perfect day and you never wake up. * Careening off the cliff and going "zhoop" and uncrashing the car. * Improving your dream friends' princess dress-up game by leaving the room and observing them from the security room instead. * A creepy carnival in the hills that sometimes shows up. * Remembering eight dreams in ten years. * Jimmy Wales' appearing in your dream to ask for dream money to keep dream Wikipedia running. * The real reason why there's no etymological connection between Samhain and the minced oath "Sam Hill." * Poop Stonehenge. * Ranking the eight kinds of fun. * Everybody ranking submission/abnegation last when listing what they want out of a tabletop RPG. * Submitting yourself to a ritualized task and discovering the pleasures of being clockwork. * Deciding how you want to build your treehouse and then going to fight the moon. * Whether a DM describing an axe swing exceptionally well counts as sensory pleasure. * Listening to a lot of TTRPG podcasts but not playing a lot of TTRPGs yourself because who has the time and energy to organize it? * Agreeing to role play all the people who are missing from this D&D session and immediately drowning everyone, making everything a lot politically simpler. * Remembering everything your players say so you can role play a sapient bird who can only communicate by mimicking things it has heard. * Leaving the elf in the cart because if you take him out everyone will want to interrogate him and you don't want to bother RPing that hard. * Learning how to GM in LARPs where there are no NPCs and all you have to do is set up some plot hooks and then watch the players go wild. * Saying "you are in a shed" and thereby declaring yourself the GM. * Telling people in your RPG session that they're playing themselves and they're like "okay I boot up Animal Crossing." * Not being able to relate to your younger sister because she's too young to have used the Dewey Decimal System. * Describing all of human knowledge using only ten categories. * The Dewey Decimal System no longer having classifications for Mormonism or education of women. * 000-099 being the best Dewey Decimal classification because it has the books about computer programming and UFOs and the paranormal. * Where to find cute animal pictures under the Dewey Decimal System. * Being shown you how to find something with the Dewey Decimal Drawers and being like "why wouldn't you just walk around until you find it." * Recording an episode in the library because where better to find out about topics. * Libraries being wild and raucous places now that the libraries don't shush you. * Going to the library all the time because there are Pokemon there but never going inside because they come out to meet you. * Going four floors underground in complete silence and wondering if you can still hear. * Making sure nobody is in the library shelves you're about to move before turning that big metal wheel. * Going into an anechoic chamber and hearing your synapses firing. * Going into an anechoic chamber and hearing ground hum because you needed to plug in your laptop. * Amazing 3D sound scapes that you can't appreciate because your head is the wrong shape. * Making a game that induces panic attacks and deciding you want to make a less horrible experience next. * People who do actual night dives being less terrified when playing Subnautica. * Knowing a cool guy with hats and liking the hats. * Self medicating using hats. * A twelve year old girl with otherwise extremely thick hair wearing a hat being less suspicious than a middle aged cis man wearing a hat. * Growing a beard to make up for your bald spot because hopefully people will think your head is upside down. * The pros and cons of wearing wigs. * Sending a picture of yourself wearing a wig and colored contacts to your mom and she asks "I don't recognize that friend, who is she and why is she wearing that tacky wig and colored contacts?" * Whether or not plants are so good. * Knowing how far apart to put the holes but not knowing how many seeds to put in each hole and your bok choy all growing on top of one another. * Tiling your entire yard with garden planters so you can actually fit all the cabbage you planted. * Your friends going into the back yard and getting blasted with water by the device you rigged to deter neighbor cats from digging in your vegetable garden. * Beautiful white butterflies that are wrecking the shit out of your cabbages. * All the plants that taste good technically being cabbages. * Not being able to be mad at the squirrels when they eat your plants as soon as they sprout because that's also what you were going to do.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLCjhH__DwhH4SarlNhQ_Ki1d-wyNfid01.- Parade- letras, canciones, literatura 2.- In a Little Book Shop- Baughn Monroe and his Orchesta 3.- Belle and Sebastian- Wrapped Up in Books4.- Lou Rawls- In My Little Black Book 5.- La canción del libro gordo6.- Book of love- The Monotones original song7.- Serge Gainsbourg and Brigitte Bardot- comic Strip8.- The Beatles- Paperback Writer9.-Bo Diddley- You can’t Judge a book by the cover10.- The Dewey Decimal rap11.- Celas cortos- cuéntame un cueno12.- Fats Weller- Lousiana Fairytale13.-The Pogues- Fairytale Of New York14.- My baby boves a brunch of authors15.- John cale- Macbeth16.- Morrissey - Reader Meet Author17.- Lidia Samunt “La escritora”18.- Mago de Oz- Ancha es castilla

Quizmasters Lee and Marc get together to ask each other selected trivia questions for their and your amusement. Categories for the quiz include Internet Culture, History, European Geography, Movies, Public Shaming Devices, Inventions, U.S. Geography, Notorious Athletes, Famous Authors, Movie Props, Indie Movies, Animals and more! Round One INTERNET CULTURE - Getting its name from a portmanteau of the origin’s country’s words for “eating” and “broadcast”, what name is given to a pre-recorded or streamed event in which a host consumes a large amount of food while interacting with viewers? HISTORY - The late Gene Cernan was an American astronaut who is today best known for holding what record? EUROPEAN GEOGRAPHY - Corsica is part of what European country? MOVIES - What bawdy British film series debuted in 1958 and with 31 installments contains the largest amount of films of any British series? FAMOUS PRODUCTS - The oldest manufactured reclining chair in the United States, what name-brand recliner has been featured in the novel Slaughterhouse Five, as well as episodes of Cheers, Friends, Seinfeld, and Fraiser? PUBLIC SHAMING DEVICES - Once used as a form of public shaming in several countries around the world, including in the U.S. following the Civil War, a "drunkard's cloak" is made of what? Missed Corrections/KnowNotes “He’s right that hybrids can’t usually reproduce. But Donkeys are not hybrid animals. Mules are (horse and donkey).” - Elyse commenting on the hybrid animals Missed Correction from episode 93 Round Two INVENTIONS - What novelty invention of Elijah Jefferson Bond is etched into the rear of his headstone, located in Green Mount Cemetery in Baltimore? U.S. GEOGRAPHY - Wichita County can be found in two states: Kansas, and what other state where the county seat is Wichita Falls? NOTORIOUS ATHLETES - James Ambrose, who was found dead in his jail cell in May 1856, was known for being a professional athlete in which sport? FAMOUS AUTHORS - What author, who also writes under the pseudonyms J.D. Robb, Jill March, and Sarah Hardesty was the first writer to be inducted into the Romance Writers of America Hall of Fame? MOVIE PROPS - Jimmy Lile was known for his "Mission" to create what iconic movie prop at the request of Sylvester Stallone? INDIE MUSIC - What indie band, formed in 1999, consisting of two sets of brothers, had four of their albums featured in NME’s 2013 list of the 500 Best Albums of all Time? Rate My Question ANIMALS - Like the xenomorph from the SCIENCE FICTION movie Alien, what animal has a Phar-yng-eal jaw— a “second” jaw inside the mouth? Final Questions FAMOUS AUTHORS - What author, who died in 1992, is known for having over 500 books in 9 of the 10 major categories of the Dewey Decimal system? CHESS - How many possible first moves are there in the game of chess? Upcoming LIVE Know Nonsense Trivia Challenges April 20th, 2020 – Know Nonsense Trivia Challenge - Live on Twitch 7pm - 9pm April 23th, 2020 - Know Nonsense Trivia Challenge - Live on Twitch 7pm - 9pm You can find out more information about that and all of our live events online at KnowNonsenseTrivia.com All of the Know Nonsense events are free to play and you can win prizes after every round. Thank you Thanks to our supporters on Patreon. Thank you, Quizdaddies – Dylan, Tommy (The Electric Mud) and Tim (Pat's Garden Service) Thank you, Team Captains – Gil, David, Rachael, Aaron, Kristen & Fletcher Thank you, Proverbial Lightkeepers – Kaitlynn, Manu, Mo, Matthew, Nicole, Luc, Hank, Justin, Cooper, Elyse, Sarah, Karly, Kristopher, Josh, Shaun, Lucas and Max Thank you, Rumplesnailtskins – Allison, Paige, We Do Stuff, Mike S. ,Kenya, Jeff, Eric, Steven, Efren, Mike J., Mike C. If you'd like to support the podcast and gain access to bonus content, please visit http://theknowno.com and click "Support."

Known for his writings on science fiction and popular science, Isaac Asimov is the only author with books in 9 of the 10 Dewey Decimal categories. In this Flashcast, Tamika and Murray talk about how prolific Asimov was and -- get this -- the time Murray actually met him in person. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

Known for his writings on science fiction and popular science, Isaac Asimov is the only author with books in 9 of the 10 Dewey Decimal categories. In this Flashcast, Tamika and Murray talk about how prolific Asimov was and -- get this -- the time Murray actually met him in person. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

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"the Ghost Son" gave us parts of like four different spooky movies, but the story itself needs a bit of a tune-up to achieve True Spooky.This episode brought to you by executive producer Angela McKlusky, Aarne-Thompson type 1291, "Sending One Cheese After Another"Suggested talking points: Dewey Decimal for ghosts, robo hobo oiled goo shoes, winterknit, Victorian ghostbusters, ghost nets, corpse party in the dirt, alive eye for the ghost guy, please punch my bonesIf you like our show, find us online to help spread the word! Follow us on Twitter, Facebook, and Youtube. Support us on Patreon to help the show grow at www.patreon.com/wtfolklore. You can find merchandise and information about the show at www.wtfolklorepodcast.com.

Chad and I talk about Matt D'Rion, Worry Free Marketing, path forward, marketing is a different animal, write a novel, holistic work, next shiny object, calluses on the fingers, Gutenberg press, access to a field and areas of knowledge we never had before, Dewey Decimal, as smart as Google, we are the translators, we tricked you into buying cheap shoes, walked up the hill both ways, The Secret Life of Trees, latch on virality, don't tell Roto Rooter, ends of earth for clients, business owners get confused, fundamentals of marketing developed in 1920s, jumped too soon, instantaneous testing, the boogeyman, cool mom, punk accordion band, Emily Lane, dream car, teal, salmon, yellow kitchen, Max the Corgie, Bella, Pugs, 3 cats and a fox. 

Hey everyone! In the very first episode of Dewey Decimal, Xena introduces herself and the books we’re reading for the next few weeks! First up is “If Beale Street could talk” by James Baldwin. Get your hands on it fast as we’re reading the whole book by next weeks episode

Mitchell Tenpenny (1:00:36) gives us a definitive answer on if Lil Nas X is country music, his thoughts on Billy Ray Cyrus, Taylor Swift, and whether or not he washes his legs. KFC is back from Memorial Day Weekend with no stories to tell except his hatred for parades, fireworks and umbrellas. Intern Josh gives us the Ten Croc Commandments. Voicemails include: what is the Dewey Decimal sytem, paid your friends off, ass soap, and senior pranks.

In this episode, we discuss that Bruce has some exciting news, Mark flies home to play XBox on a tree farm, Dewey Decimal shop organization, some of your questions/topics answered (keep those coming, BTW) & more! and more!  Be sure to follow us on Instagram...that's where we are all most active. Plus, if you build something we've built, we would love for you to tag us so we can see it! (links below to all of our channels and Instagram accounts) NOTES: SUPPORT THE SHOW: www.patreon.com/webuiltathing We have some awesome people supporting us over on Patreon. If you want to support us, Patreon is a great way! We really want to record more often, but the expenses of this podcast are preventing us from doing more than about 2 shows per month.  We will also be adding some different rewards and exclusive stuff for our Patrons soon. Head over there and become part of a really fun group! We Built A Thing Tshirts! We have two designs to choose from! https://amzn.to/2GP04jf  https://amzn.to/2TUrCr2 Bruce's most recent video: Float Frames https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obAspwu0x4Q Drew's end grain inlay cutting board video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLrROQBjvAE Mark's most recent video: Installing a Toe Kick Ducting System https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BFgztaoZxE Shoutouts: Steve @MakingatHome on Instagram AC @acnailedit on Instagram We are all part-time makers, dads and all have YouTube channels we are trying to grow. Throughout this podcast, we plan to talk about making things, making videos to share on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, etc...and all of the life that happens in between.  CONNECT WITH US: INSTAGRAM: WE BUILT A THING: www.instagram.com/webuiltathing/ FISHER'S SHOP: www.instagram.com/fishersshop/ BRUDADDY: www.instagram.com/brudaddy/ GUNFLINT DESIGNS: www.instagram.com/gunflint_designs/ Music by: Jay Fisher (Thanks, Jay!)

We discuss all things spicy, both beer and game wise, with Angela Jones! Angela is an avid game player, beer lover, and possible vegetarian pegan dragon that doesn't eat penguins. Oh and she's Stephen's wife. Do you want to be a guest on the podcast? Have questions for Cris, Stephen, or one of our guests? Email us at tablehopspodcast@gmail.com! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/tablehopspodcast/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/tablehopspodcast/support

Is it finally here? Is this actually real?! Is it happening, or are we just DREAMING? Welcome to Season 2 Episode 16, where we cover the Prologue-Chap.3 of The Dream Thieves! We are indeed BACK with our first episode covering the second book of The Raven Cycle, The Dream Thieves! Join us as we introduce our favorite hit man, talk about the fairytale-esque stories of the Lynch family, Nievita reveals that she has discovered the birthdate of Niall Lynch, Shannon reveals that she shares one of Ronan's favorite things, and we both reveal that we are huge nerds by making Monty Python references. (Just kidding on that last one--you already knew we were huge nerds.) And we want you to tell us… what should trigger our Season 2 Drinking Game? DEEP DIVE: Tropes & Motifs of Fairytales and Celtic Mythology (from approx. the 19:49 minute mark to 36:59, depending on player) Find our complete shownotes on WordPress: https://ravingirls.wordpress.com Past Episode Guide: https://ravingirls.tumblr.com/episodes The Raven Cycle and all affiliated properties (The Raven Boys, The Dream Thieves, Blue Lily, Lily Blue, and The Raven King) are copyright Maggie Stiefvater and Scholastic, Inc. The Ravin' Girls reference these properties for the purpose of literary analysis. Intro and Outro music by Damiano Baldoni, used under CC Attribution License: http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Damiano_Baldoni/Lost_Dinasty/ The original tracks have been edited for the podcast. Ravin' Girls logo and banner art © 2018 Mio Mäkijärvi, All Rights Reserved. Please visit http://kojotei.tumblr.com/ for more information.

Is it finally here? Is this actually real?! Is it happening, or are we just DREAMING? Welcome to Season 2 Episode 16, where we cover the Prologue-Chap.3 of The Dream Thieves! We are indeed BACK with our first episode covering the second book of The Raven Cycle, The Dream Thieves! Join us as we introduce our favorite hit man, talk about the fairytale-esque stories of the Lynch family, Nievita reveals that she has discovered the birthdate of Niall Lynch, Shannon reveals that she shares one of Ronan’s favorite things, and we both reveal that we are huge nerds by making Monty Python references. (Just kidding on that last one--you already knew we were huge nerds.) And we want you to tell us… what should trigger our Season 2 Drinking Game? DEEP DIVE: Tropes & Motifs of Fairytales and Celtic Mythology (from approx. the 19:49 minute mark to 36:59, depending on player) Find our complete shownotes on WordPress: https://ravingirls.wordpress.com Past Episode Guide: https://ravingirls.tumblr.com/episodes The Raven Cycle and all affiliated properties (The Raven Boys, The Dream Thieves, Blue Lily, Lily Blue, and The Raven King) are copyright Maggie Stiefvater and Scholastic, Inc. The Ravin’ Girls reference these properties for the purpose of literary analysis. Intro and Outro music by Damiano Baldoni, used under CC Attribution License: http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Damiano_Baldoni/Lost_Dinasty/ The original tracks have been edited for the podcast. Ravin’ Girls logo and banner art © 2018 Mio Mäkijärvi, All Rights Reserved. Please visit http://kojotei.tumblr.com/ for more information.

Welcome to Botched: A D&D Podcast! Well, Phil lost another limb. Nothing brings the DM more joy honestly and thank goodness Phil botches so much. At this point I’m guessing they wish they took the elevator with Kip and Sachy…or maybe not. Climbing higher into this castle they will find even more trials and tribulations. We finally get back to the old days of puzzle dungeoning with even traps, puzzles and finally some riddles. Unfortunately (or fortunately) for the listeners they can’t hear how long it takes these jack asses to figure these things out. What sort of puzzles await them? Will there be any creatures in this giant castle? What the hell is the Dewey Decimal system? Tune in and find out! Join in on the banter as these dickheads whose understanding of the rules is questionable, and their moral compasses are even more so, stumble through dungeons, traps, monsters, and social intricacies as they attempt to complete a quest for wholly selfish reasons. If you are a veteran dragon slayer from the long long ago of the 1970’s or a newbie who is interested in hearing what this devil worshipping game is all about, Botched: A D&D Podcast is the DnD Podcast for you. As mentioned, we are playing 5th edition rules, so if you’ve never played this version of the game before, listening to us will give you an idea of how it may be different from previous versions of the game. 5th edition is a great rule set to start playing the game with. Find out if there’s a local game near where you live at comic book or game stores. Hell, buy some books, buy some dice, get some food and drinks and invite your friends over to play with you for completely different experience! A special shout out and thank you to all of our supporters over on Patreon. You help us continue to churn out “quality” episodes. With your continued support we can upgrade our dining room, I mean studio, with better quality microphones, sound proofing and merchandise. Help us achieve our goals and reap the benefits as we will begin producing novellas of the seasons, behind the scenes features and live shows! Check out our store over at Botched Podcast where you can find tshirts, stickers, prints and more! Thank you to those who have taken the time to give us a 5 star review over on Itunes! It helps the show grow, and we greatly appreciate it! A big big thank you to the following: Zlw365 Elliebells 1543 Nigel Molassesfinger Castle McFall Joshua Archiquette Pokemon In D&D Fearravine Kory Sarracini Chuggzernaut pmbear SiroVai123 Aatamos UltDave BlackGary BigJim Badbreatth Skuuf Noverton Riku210 Ninjagod99 HiyaitsSandi Admaletz Acinda FlipFlapAgronomacus Selfcleaningmutant Falcon Phire Captain Hygiene Johndonmoyer Littlefam90 Iluvpasta47 Walter Rice Fishdick69 Stargatesnatch Icantpay Chanticlear22 Nubian Guido Kitkat the Katkat NightmareLovely Wonderlandreject Kitchenaidfleshlight Missourimule Raegun11:11 Gjkkgffg C-rad Tummytickler Cruddyredneck1 SlyThyToves Saggywheels Charles TheBarles xSpaceyToastx Lindsayjean777 Codeneuf The Nickinator Andrew J L Leather Lorcan07 Ventex2k Latitude One J R Spears Cjbrill Bit Block Tkoftw03 Chuck Billy TommyJonzThe1 KnightroExpress Takenffsdammit Ashypink99 --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/botchedpodcast/support

A brief look at the Dewey Decimal System, the Library of Congress System, and other formats of organization for libraries, bookstores, and personal collections. OCLC and the DDC: https://www.oclc.org/en/dewey/features/summaries.html Bookstores vs. Libraries: https://www.quora.com/Why-are-bookstores-not-organized-like-libraries LC: https://www.usg.edu/galileo/skills/unit03/libraries03_04.phtml LibraryThing (NOT an ad): https://www.librarything.com/ A closer look at the DDC (from the link above): 000 Computer science, information & general works 100 Philosophy & psychology 200 Religion 300 Social sciences 400 Language 500 Science 600 Technology 700 Arts & recreation 800 Literature 900 History & geography

Greg Gibbons, Automated Library II    Greg Gibbons was the creator of Automated Library II, software for running school libraries, which was available for the Atari 8-bit and Apple II computers.   There's an article about the software in the April 1985 issue of American Libraries:   “The Automated Library II is a bar-code circulation system that runs on the Atari line of microcomputers. The program, designed for school libraries circulating 30 to 500 items per day, checks books in and out, compiles overdue lists, and prints class records and daily circulation summaries by Dewey Decimal numbers.   Software developer Gregory Gibbons studied the day-to-day activities of a junior high school librarian and then designed a system to automate as much of the repetitious work as possible. The program was extensively tested in a Los Angeles school for over a year before its release.   All inputs are prompted with simple English. The system is so easy to use that the test library used students to perform most of the operations.   The program produces bar codes for the books in the library and student-ID bar codes, which are entered into the computer and attached to books and student IDs. … If the student is authorized to check out books the computer will make a short beep and print ‘OK to check out books’ on the screen. If the student is on the overdue list, the computer makes a different noise to alert the staff.   At the end of the day, the librarian instructs the computer to perform a daily update, which incorporates all transactions into the database. The update takes about 15 minutes per 1,000 students, and automatically generates a new overdue list that can be printed at any time.   The program works best with 200 to 3,000 students, although a larger number of students will simply cause the program to take a little longer to update each day.   The Automated Library II runs on the Atari 800, 800XL, and 1200XL computers…The system costs $700, including the light wand.”   This interview took place on May 24, 2018.   Atari-Based School Library Circ System at Internet Archive   Atari-Based School Library Circ System at jstor   Automated Library II Software and Documentation

Julie Smolyanksy is a tough woman to nail down. Not in terms of her schedule — although she is all over the place, having recently published her first book, The Kefir Cookbook, while running Lifeway Foods full-time as CEO and President. Instead, over the course of our conversation on the #WeGotGoals podcast, I found myself trying — and repeatedly failing — to put Smolyanksy neatly in a box that I could easily write 500 words on in a blog post. Smolyanksy is a CEO/President, sure. But she's also been the first female CEO of a publicly held firm (when she took over Lifeway Foods in 2002 after her father's unexpected death). She's a mother and a feminist activist, identities that drive her decisions as a businesswoman who wants to set a strong example for her daughters. She's an immigrant who came to the United States as an infant with her parents, who brought kefir with them as a taste of Eastern Europe and later turned it into a $12 million business (up to $120 million in 2017). She's sharp as a tack and incredibly organized and detail-oriented, but she's a believer in holistic health and says things like "the universe is going to give me what I need" without a hint of irony. Needless to say, my head was spinning as we sat down to talk, knowing there were so many dimensions to this woman. But interestingly, one of the things we talked about was the benefit of ignoring your brain and listening to your gut, something Smolyansky got a crash course in when she lost her phone in Mexico for a few days. "It was like sort of the universe doing a wake up call like 'Julie, stop, stop, slow down, stop, listen to yourself, listen to your body, you're spinning out of control,'" Smolyanksy revealed. Without her phone to distract her outwardly, Smolyanksy spent her days doing yoga, meditating, and journaling, only to find that hip pain she had dealt with since pregnancy had mysteriously disappeared after a particularly cathartic meditation. "I think that was this moment of following my intuition," mused Smolyanksy, noting how after that realization, she was able to look back in her life at times she had ignored her gut instincts only to regret it later. Today, Smolyanksy hones her intuition through regular SoulCycle classes, running, enjoying the occasional glass of red wine — and of course, incorporating kefir into her diet regularly. "What we're learning now about the microbiome, I am blown away by how important it is having that gut, which we call a second brain now, how important it is to have one that's running well. When it's healthy, it's like magic." Listen to Smolyanksy's episode of #WeGotGoals wherever you get your podcasts to learn more about taking over the family business during a tumultuous, grief-filled time, plus how she feels her identity as a feminist impacts her daughters and what it's like to be the only young, immigrant female CEO in a room full of old, white males. To get more of #WeGotGoals, make sure you subscribe and leave a rating or a review so others can hear these stories, too. Psst... don't stop listening when the interview portion is over. We saved a few minutes at the end of the podcast to devote to real-life goal-getters like you, and we'll hear from one inspiring goal-getter each week.     Start Transcript: _______ JAC: Welcome to #WeGotGoals, a podcast by aSweatLife.com on which we talk to high achievers about their goals. I'm Jeana Anderson Cohen and with me I have Maggie Umberger and Kristin Geil. KG: Good morning, Jeana. MU: Good morning, Jeana. JAC: Good morning and today Kristen, you talk to a real boss. KG: Yes. I talked to Julie Smolansky who is the president and CEO of Lifeway Kefir. JAC: And Julie was not the first president and CEO of Lifeway Kefir. She sort of stumbled into or was thrust into that role under some not so ideal circumstances, but really thrived there, right? KG: Yeah, exactly. So Lifeway Kefir is Julie's family business. It was started by her father. Her mom contributed a lot as well, and she and her brother actually both grew up working for her father and learning the ins and outs of running Lifeway Kefir. Then in 2002, her dad passed away very suddenly from a heart attack and at that time Lifeway Kefir was about a $12,000,000 business. Julie took over the next day as CEO and president and began running the company. It made her the youngest female to be the CEO of a publicly held company at that time. She was somewhere around 27, so very young, but since she's been in that role, she has grown Lifeway Kefir to $120,000,000 as of last year, 2017. So we talked a little bit about how tough it must have been to be thrown into the CEO role in such dark circumstances, but she actually had a really unique perspective on it. She thought that having to take over as CEO right away was her father's way of leaving her a project where she could direct her energies and help work through her grief without being totally consumed by it. MU: And we've gotten to speak to many different CEOs and entrepreneurs on this podcast and one thing that has come up as a theme that I found pretty interesting is how certain people have talked about the importance of their intuition and how they have really, really leaned on it and making decisions. And so it's obviously not something that they take lightly and Julie is one of those CEOs as well. Is that right? KG: Yeah, so a little bit of backstory. We obviously talked a lot about Lifeway Kefir and how kefir is so good for your gut health with all of the probiotics, so in the biological sense, Julie's always thinking about the gut, right, but we also talked a little bit about how she's learned to hone her intuition and listen to her other gut, so to speak, and how that served her in the business world and she told a story that you'll hear about losing her phone for a few days in Mexico and how she learned to just figure stuff out without technology and she offers some really good advice for anyone who's looking to disconnect a little bit and really hone in to their inner self and driving their own decision making without outside influences. KG: And I think that's another thing you'll hear come through this podcast a lot is I feel like there's really two sides to Julie. You know, on one hand she's a really sharp business woman. Always thinking about her next move. She just wrote a book that recently came out. So she's very savvy in that sense of the word, but she also speaks really beautifully about listening to the universe and learning how to hone her intuition and she's a little more woo-woo than what you might expect from a CEO, especially someone who is such a young CEO in a tough business world. So I think you'll get a lot out of this interview guys. JAC: And we can't wait to hear Kristin with Julie. It sounds like it was a really great interview. And stick around listener for the end of the episode where you'll hear from real life goal-getters and what they're achieving out there in the real world today. Here's the show. KG: Welcome to #WeGotGoals. My name is Kristen Geil and today I am here with Julie Smolansky, the president and CEO of Lifeway Kefir. Julie, how are you today? JS: I'm doing great. How are you? KG: I’m great. We're so excited to have you on today. Lifeway Kefir has been a friend of aSweatLife for awhile now and we've gotten used to trying your delicious kefir products at all of our SweatWorking events and we're especially excited to have you on today too because we're going to hear more about the book that you've recently published. So thank you for being here today. First of all, we'll start off with the question that we ask everybody who comes on this podcast and that is, what is a big goal that you've achieved in the past. Why was it important to you and what steps did you take to get there? JS: Well, one of my goals for quite a while has been to write a book and I finally did. I just published the Kefir Cookbook and it took me quite awhile to write and it was a challenging for a variety of reasons, but we did it. I'm super proud of it. I share a lot of great stories from my life, my family's life. I touch on a lot of various issues from being an immigrant and a refugee to a female entrepreneur to a mom. Um, so, you know, even though it's a cookbook, it's very personal and I, I think it was sort of like the appetizer to my first kind of entry into publishing and writing. But yeah, that I am right now just kind of sitting back and watching the book have its impact and being able to talk to my customers and various people as I kind of tour around the country and hear about how kefir has improved people's lives. It's been very, very touching to me. So I'm, I'm kind of just enjoying this moment right now. KG: And you mentioned just now that the Kefir Cookbook is more than just an actual cookbook. I've flipped through it a little bit and it seems like there's a lot of stories of your family woven in. How did your family influenced the conception and the actual writing of this book? JS: Yeah, so I mean, you know, my father passed away, which is how I ended up as the CEO of Lifeway. Uh, he passed away about 16 years ago now. And so he, for me, it was sort of writing some of the stories that were important to me to share that I wanted to sort of document and leave for next generations because those stories become diluted over time or lost. And so now these are kind of forever and you know, it seems a very natural platform to use food to tell these stories. It's, it's become natural for me to like share a picture and say something about it. And I actually think social media really helped me kind of find the inspiration and my voice in that. So when I, I feel like I got good at it through social media, then it became very natural to do it in a more formal published way, organized neatly, you know, strategically. And then with my mom, you know, a lot of recipes kind of were hers, you know, there's a handful that were hers that I had to call and ask her, you know, how to make things or I forgot how to do certain Russian recipes that, which is our, our background. We immigrated from the former Soviet Union in 1976. So, you know, kind of grew up with these old old worlds, Russian Ukrainian recipes, and then there were some stories that I'd forgotten that, you know, I didn't even know that she shared with me that were just kind of fun. And you know, and I think about how far we've actually come when I, I'm very humbled by these stories because, you know, my mom and dad both grew up in a country in communist Russia after the war there, experienced lots of challenges, adversities, political persecution, religious persecution, poverty, hunger, sickness. JS: Like when I think about just how far my mom went to the bathroom in an outhouse, you know, and, and when I think about the rooms and the situations I've been so blessed to be in, it's incredibly—I just get filled with gratitude. So to be able to kind of tell those stories. And then like I said, like they’re, I grew up with them, but now they're like neatly organized, indexed official. There's a Dewey Decimal system number two, it, um, it's just, I'm just so proud of it. And then, you know, I think it's a great way to bring attention to certain issues like immigration, like refugees, like why it's important to support diversity and how that impacts and, and you know, the fact that because America, because Chicago opened its arms to us, we were able to bring kefir, which is a staple in eastern Europe here to the United States and the impact of this product have kefir of probiotics, of gut health, of us leading that conversation for the last 30 years. That becomes incredibly rewarding. I think it's a great example. So I think when I think about the conversations that are being had on a kind of a bigger level, I think it's a great example. Hard to argue with it. KG: Lifeway Kefir is a family business. Can you tell us a little bit about how it was founded, what your first role within the company ism and how that has all grown and developed over the past. How many years has it even been? JS: So it's been 16 years. Yeah. My Dad passed away June ninth in 2002. So I'm coming up to his 16th anniversary and my 16 years of being the CEO. So he, he had a sudden heart attack at the age of 55 and died on a beautiful sunny morning in Chicago and the next day my brother and I essentially took over the company. He was 23, he had just graduated college. He had been with us for about six, six months. I had been with my dad for about five years and I had left—I had intended on becoming a psychologist and I was in grad school, but serendipity brought me to the company kind of on a more formal way and I had decided to leave grad school and I didn't come back for my second year and went full time with my dad and worked with him five years side by side, really learned all the elements of business, kind of a lot of his philosophy and whatnot and it was a great time for us because we. I really got a chance to sort of heal our relationship because I had grown up with both of my parents running businesses as immigrants to the new country, they really, you know, they didn't, I think when we talk about balance and whatnot, that's such a luxury because as immigrants you don't even have that conversation. JS: It's just a nonexistent topic because they're just head down working, getting their feet into the country and putting food on the table literally. And I as, as I kind of got to know my dad and some of his challenges I, a different level of respect sort of started to happen or just like an understanding of how much that both him and my mother had taken on. Not that they were perfect, but it's just, uh, a different level of understanding. So anyways, he passed away. I ended up taking over with my brother. I become the CEO. He's the CFO and we just grow it from about 12 million to about 130 today. We're, I feel like on the cusp of another kind of growth spurt right now. Of course, probiotics are having a moment as everyone knows. Gut health is having a moment. I don't think it's going away. JS: We're just learning about the microbiome and the bacteria that that is so critical for our health and wellbeing. You know, it's a 2000-year-old product that's just making its way here to the United States. It's 30 years is nothing actually considering its long 2,000 year history. What our relatives knew in the Caucus mountains in Europe, they said that 2000 years ago when they tried this product that they had a sense of wellbeing when they consumed it, they called it the champagne of dairy and a gift from the gods and they intuitively in their gut, you know, no pun intended, kind of realized and knew that they felt good when they consumed kefir. Well, fast forward to 1908, Élie Metchnikoff did the first science research around kefir and its influence on our health and our wellbeing and he won the Nobel Prize for it. So for now, the last hundred years we've had science and medical research backing up what and our ancestors knew intuitively that kefir is actually really good for you, very beneficial to the body. JS: And so in the last hundred years, we've just advanced on that research and science and it's now, it's like unbelievable what's happening, the incredible breakthroughs that are happening, even we knew that it was good for your digestive and your immunity, you know, your health from a physical perspective. But now we're learning that it's even beneficial for mental health. So we now know that gut health influences your stress, anxiety, depression, all of the mental health and, and like incredible research that's coming out around microbiome and mental health, but all health. And so, you know, we're, we're just really excited about kind of sharing that information. I mean, it survived by word of mouth, by storytelling, by oral history and storytelling, word of mouth. And now with social media, that of course elevates and explodes it and so we can really get the word out around the, you know, when you make certain food choices and certain lifestyle choices, you choose to heal yourself. JS: You choose to love yourself. You choose to love your family or community for a very like, you know, there's no risk. It's not like a pharmaceutical drug that has side effects. There's the only side effect is that you feel good, you know, that's the, that's the impact. So that becomes incredibly rewarding to try to get it into the hands into as many people get this information out and support communities that are trying to do this. Um, I think that's kind of if, if, if that's the purpose, my life purpose, then I think I've lived a good life. Yeah. KG: When you took over Lifeway Foods in 2002, you became the youngest female CEO of a publicly held firm. But unlike most CEOs who have time to grow into the role, you were thrust into it really unexpectedly. What was that like and what did that teach you about your leadership and goal setting style? JS: Yeah, I mean it was incredibly challenging. Of course, on one hand, you know, I was mourning the loss of my father, but it sort of, it gave me a place to focus and put that energy. It gave me an outlet. I almost think like he was sort of looking over me and like handed this project to me. Like here, instead of feeling sorry for yourself, go work on this. That's very much him. And I really was, I constantly thought about this mantra that failure was not an option, that my parents had gone through so much. My family had gone through so much blood, sweat and tears to get to this point that I wasn't gonna let it all just fall apart. And I mean, I had backlash. I had older men who tried to undercut, you know, my role and prevent this from happening. And it took a lot of courage for me to stand up to a, you know, a bunch of older white men and say no, and I'm gonna run it and I'm going to kick ass at it. JS: I mean, I kind of, I knew that I would. And then I think, you know what? I guess what I thought about was that my parents came with no money, no friends, no language. They didn't have a network. Here I was, graduated, uh, you know, schooled in the United States with a network for the most part, access to network already with, you know, a $12,000,000 business now. It's just like, don't fuck it up. I just, I think that was the biggest thing is that I just did not want it to fail and I knew that we were onto something. I mean I had known that we were really on the cost of some major growth, that the country was sort of ready and just starting to be prepared to make big food changes and food habits and all of that, which all came true and being first to market with so important, which we were and I had grown up in the business. JS: So I had sort of, these were normal conversations in terms of business. It became intuitive to me on how to run a business and I had always been a leader my whole life. I mean I watched my parents be leaders and pioneers and pave the path for other immigrants and lead in their community. And of course in their businesses. You know, my greatest role model was my mother and she had started a deli two years after settling in the seventies, opened the first Russian deli, didn't speak English, really, you know, learned English, watching General Hospital actually, and started doing international deals all over the world and she was so brave and courageous. So I had these great examples and great role models. I thought the least I could do is sort of rise up and show them what they had kind of built. And I learned, yeah, I learned what I was made of. JS: I learned that I could really go through the fire and come out of it OK and come out stronger that I can persevere, that I'm tenacious, that I am resilient. All of those things. I knew that I was. I mean I knew that I was in the past, but I, this was like the challenge. You know, it was interesting because I had just run my first marathon the year before my dad passed away and he challenged me. He was like, you know, it started because we sponsored a lot of marathons and races. So I sort of saw, I was always athletic, but I had seen these people, old, young, all different body shapes running this crazy distance and I remember seeing like an 80, 90 year old man running and I thought, my gosh, if he can run a marathon, I should be able to do this. JS: You know, I'd been a figure skater for 15 years. I played tennis, I rode horses, I was super athletic but I'd never been a runner and not that distance. But picked up some shoes, started running and my dad saw me cross the finish line and he didn't believe that I was going to do it. He's like 26 miles, that's crazy. You would never be able to do it. And once he gave me that challenge I had to prove him wrong of course. And, and I did. And I thought that was a great lesson also for me and that, you know, I learned that I can challenge myself, set goals, that I don't have to be the first. You don't have to win the thing. I can still do it and have a great experience. And seeing him see me cross the finish line was very important for me as well. So I'm happy that he got to see that. I think it's probably a metaphor that at that point he knew that I could probably do anything at that point I think is what he realized. And I don't know, maybe it was just his time and mine. KG: I love the way you talked about yourself so confidently just now. Like I am tenacious, I am this, I am that like you seem to really know yourself and have that inner confidence, but I'm guessing it wasn't always that way. Did you ever have imposter syndrome when you were starting out as such a young female CEO? And if so, like what kind of pep talks did you give to yourself to pump yourself up before going into a room of these white American men and what would you recommend for other young females maybe just starting off in business, who have those same feelings of not being quite as confident as you are now? JS: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I had to work at it. I was not always so confident of course. It was a couple things. I had a few series of success, you know, I had a few wins behind me, so when you get good and sort of master something and you can feel yourself master it, that builds your confidence. So I had done that repeatedly over and over, whether that was, you know, public speaking or writing something or launching a new product or selling a new product. All of those things help build my confidence in business and then I started to realize that every person, no matter who they were, had something to offer to being in the room, that we were all there to learn a lesson from each other and so then it, I feel like it got equalized in my head. Maybe the other person didn't know, but all it took was for me to feel confident. JS: That didn't matter really what the other person felt. I started to see that I would show up in rooms and people wanted to hear from me. People wanted to hear what I thought about things. Think about like social media was blowing up, here I was a woman on social media, dominating social media because women were, you know, at the time when social media was sort of happening, and this is about when I was took over Lifeway, we really carved a place. Our voice really became powerful in, in social media. We're creating content, we're selling merchandise, starting businesses, all these things. And so I realized I had this asset to offer that and a certain skillset that all was very like intuitive that sometimes I saw men struggle with and so I started to feel like, okay, we each have something to offer, like you have a great skill in this area. JS: I have a skill in this area. And I felt like there was kind of greater currency in leveraging both of those and that we're kind of all equal. And I, it was these kinds of small thoughts in my head. And then of course having children really exponentially grew my confidence because now I couldn't even live in fear anymore. It was just absolutely not an option. I had to really rise because, you know, I have two little girls that I want to create a better world for them and the only way to do that is completely to let go of all fear and to live out my true life purpose and show them and model that for them because I really want that for them more than I want anything else is for them to be able to really live fearlessly and fiercely with all the power that they can take and to, to ask for as much power that they can. JS: We have a lot of work to make up for here as genders and, and uh, and for power. And so I spent time with various coaches. I had a group of other executives who, you know, gave me accountability that helped me in certain areas where I was challenged. I leaned on friends of course, and I have a really good support around me of people who help me when I'm not necessarily feeling at my best. And then I feel like, again, I've, I've just tried to learn like I don't think anything's really a failure or a mistake if you've learned something from it and I always want to find those lessons and so then it becomes a nice little dance that you do with the universe to keep building on those skills, keep shedding more, you know, more of that fear and just letting it go and really kind of getting to the essence of who you are, what you want to be, what you want to project out into the world, what you want mirrored back to you. Those are all kind of important things. I think that as I kind of think about the next decade, two decades of my life that I want to think about. KG: You mentioned wanting to be a good role model for your young girls in terms of how you grow the business and in terms of how you live fearlessly. Did you have any other female CEO role models that you looked up to when you were starting out or that you've developed over the past 16 years? JS: Yeah. Actually one was actually Christie Hefner here in Chicago. She so, so when was in college and I came home and my dad was watching CNN with a special of her being featured and my dad turned to me and said, look what she's done. She took over her father's company. I want you to do that. I want you to be like her. And I feel like that was a really important statement that he gave me. JS: It kinda gave me a good push to know that I could do it, that he wanted that for me, gave me a lot of confidence and so I did actually look at her life sort of how she carved out her role as a CEO and then we've become friends. So I definitely lean on her just for friendship, but advice and whatnot, mentorship. Um, and I've sought out many kind of female business groups and communities. Like the Fortune most powerful women community is a great one; here in Chicago there's the Chicago Network and C200 as a national one for females and in business. But there's so many now. I mean it's really great. It is so important, I think, you know, if you can't see it, you can't be at. And it's still so rare. I mean, and I think we just dropped 25 percent on the Fortune 500 list of female CEOs and there's only like, well there were 21 last time I looked. JS: I haven't checked the news in the last couple of days that keeps seeing those headlines. I'm guessing we dropped. So that's nothing. You know, we're less than 20 percent in Congress and there's only been like five female governors. I mean we're really underrepresented. Behind the camera, we’re like less than six percent or something. I mean, don't quote the numbers. It's been a while since I looked at them, but we're, you know, our stories are not really told our, we're not really visible. There's no like, like here I'm on the board of the Women's History Museum. There no single standing museum actually that represents the history of women's accomplishments and we've been doing and building this country and the world from the beginning of time. But there's nothing to point to concretely. And so I really start. I started noticing that there is just a lack of women in power, a lack of women in media, lack of women, you know, running heads of companies, a lack of female titans, a lack of women in every single area. JS: I mean we’re there, but our stories aren't told, but, and we're not there at equal numbers either. And likewise, you know, where are the men raising the kids? I mean they're there obviously, but I think when we reach gender parity, where it’s like 50/50 and equal responsibilities in the household and in corporations and whatnot and throughout government and all of these areas that I think we will have a better, safer, healthier world, a more peaceful world, a more, I don't know, meaningful world. And I think the time has come. I think the last eight, nine months have proved that we are not going to take it sitting down and that we're gonna come together, that we're stronger together. That, you know, when our voice collectively it's fierce, it’s unstoppable. The, you know, when many women come together, when the most powerful women come together and share the truth about their lives, about their accomplishments, about their challenges, about all of it, that the world actually stops and listens and starts to make changes. JS: I think we're just at the very beginning of this reckoning. I think there's going to be so many conversations. So I think the next generation, I have personally acted in a way that I have wanted to evolve, not just for myself but for the next generation. I think I, you know, I've personally been an activist since I was 15. I am exhausted. I am personally exhausted for the last 30 some years and I think it's really great that the next generation has been activated and has been empowered with tools, with social media, with role models, with voices, with many of us pulling them up and saying, yeah, go talk, share, go. You know, go do all the really important things. Hold men accountable. I think that is when we start to change the world. And so if I could have just done that for my girls, if they speak loudly and demand for some of these changes, then that's a good thing. KG: When it comes to being empowered to find your voice and listen to your intuition, I feel like that's a lot easier said than done. And I know that's something that you sort of hinted at it at the beginning of this interview was how kefir can actually help you listen to your gut, not just because it's good for your gut health, but it might help you find your intuition and you know, dive into that mental benefit as well. So I'm curious to know what some of the strategies you've developed for actually listening to your gut are in honing your intuition as a woman throughout the years as a CEO. Yeah. I'm really just interested to hear about listening to your gut as it is. JS: Yeah. That actually listening to my gut has become a really fun way to live. More and more, I feel that there are no coincidences, that everything is sort of happening for a reason, that we're living these sort of alternative universe lives, multiple lives, whatever. I know it sounds so crazy, but whatever. I feel like, well, we're so distracted from these, our intuition. We run such busy lives. We're completely on social media or in our electronics, just in our electronics, actually. We, I personally have sort of lost sight of my own intuition and it took me a minute to stop and actually lose my phone for three days in Tulum. I shared this story in the book and it took me these three days where I lost my phone, had to get in touch with myself, had to rely on friends and community to get me from out of Mexico into New York with no money, no phone, no nothing, and for a couple of days just shut down and think. And I healed parts of my body and it was like sort of the universe doing a wake up call like Julie, stop, stop, slow down, stop, listen to yourself, listen to your body, you’re spinning out of control. JS: And I was, I was completely setting and I was processing a lot of things that were kind of going on in the last couple of years. And finally the world took my phone away and made me pause and a lot of things started to come to me. And I started taking notes and I started journaling and went inward. I meditated, I did yoga, you know, over these three days. And I had had this really bad hip pain for about six years and I kept blaming it on my pregnancy and I started realizing that it had nothing to do with my pregnancy but more to do with a whole lot of shame and all these other various issues. And I remember doing this meditation and just this moment of like release and this feeling just left me and it just walked away into the ocean because we were oceanside. And I started to like cry. JS: Like I was sobbing. And the next day I notice I'm walking around through the sand and my hip doesn't hurt. And I'm like, wait, this is so weird. If my hip doesn't hurt. And then it basically has kind of stayed that way and I think that was this moment of following my intuition where I didn't have time to go to this conference. I went to Tulum to do this, this thing. It was like not the best time for me to do it, but I just said, you know what? The universe just is gonna give me what I need. I don't know what I need, but you know, I'm just going to go and I'm just gonna let it happen. And it did and it, the universe gave me exactly what I needed and it's this thing, this is this, this moment of following my gut. And I started realizing that I'd actually done it all all the time. JS: I just didn't know I was doing it. And as I look back now, hindsight 20/20, I see all these moments where I followed my gut were something intuitively something called to me. And every time when I didn't listen, I made a mistake and I started realizing over and over again that the times that I've talked myself out of things that I have wanted to do, that I, my heart pulled me to. I lived in pain and suffering and when I started to get in touch with those feelings, both not living intuitively and living intuitively, it was night and day and the, I don't want to say luck because everything is hard work. And I—somebody just said this, I think it was Shonda Rimes just that, don't use the word luck. It cheapens all my hard work. And that's absolutely true. It's like I worked really hard to get to this point and now it's just continuing to ask myself these questions, giving myself time to think and feel. JS: Mostly, uh, I think I've mostly lived in my mind, in my head and letting my intuition lead me now is so much more intuitive, but it's, it's very natural. It's, and it's, I think a skill set that women have because we have an amazing intuition. We have this maternal female intuition that is very hard to touch and once you realize it, it's unstoppable and it's, I think a skill that will be leveraged and can be monetized. I think corporations want that because you can go to all the Harvard schools and Ivy League schools and you can run every spreadsheet in the world, but there are some things that you need to like know intuitively in your heart. That's a very magical, special gift and I think many of us have it, which is a lot of intuitives in the world. I think that's a skill that will continue to be important in our world. JS: But yeah, so you know, writing, taking time, processing, making positive food choices, you know, living sorta as clean of a life as I could. A couple glasses of wine never hurt anybody. Taking time to exercise and rest. Exercise, like I love running, I love spinning, or you know, I do SoulCycle. These are the times when I do get to focus on my heart and my emotions and my feelings and what I think sort of are, are things that I want to work on, accomplish challenge, learned from all of it. I think that's really what it's all about. That on I, once I started to realize that impact that food had and specifically key fair because it is just the easiest—when I learned about now what we're learning about the microbiome, I am blown away by how, how important having that second the gut, which we call a second brain now, how important when that's running well, when it's healthy, it's like magic the way that you move through the world. It's really, really special and I think it's a lifelong process. I don't think it's like, OK, I'm going to do this for a week. It's forever. It is for me at least that I think it's like healing myself is sort of healing my community. That again, I think about when I, we’re all just like mirrors for each other. So if I crave a healthy, safe world where you know there's love and there's abundance and there's safety and spirituality, then that's what I need to find in myself so that I can see that. So that became really important to me and yeah, I think there's just these basic elements we have to live for lifestyle, forever, and that's it. Leave the next generation with the same, you know, these lessons and tools. Like I feel like I definitely banged my head against the wall for a long time and it took me awhile to sort of learn this, but I've done it actually fairly early. JS: A lot of people do it much later in life. I was kind pushed into learning this probably a lot quicker than many people do. So I think if I can expedite that process for other people, like I just think, think about the evolution that can happen so much quicker. You know, when younger people are at this level already in their teens or in their 20s, what else can they do when they're not spending so much time healing? Because that it is exhausting. It is absolutely exhausting to get to this place, but it's a lot of work, but there's so many great rewards. I'm almost there, almost reached what I wanted to do. KG: Well, you’ve inspired me to go chuck my phone out a window the next chance I get, but in the meantime I feel like we could talk to you forever about your perspective as an immigrant, as a female CEO, as an activist, as a mom, but we have to wrap this up eventually, so we'll have to save some for the next part, the next part 2 of having Julie on the podcast, someday. We’ll close with the question that we ask everybody who comes on this, which is part two of our intro question: What's a big goal that you have for the future? Why is it important to you and what steps are you taking to get there today? JS: Oh boy, there’s, I mean, just one is too hard. I want to write another book. Eventually I want to write sort of my memoirs. There's still a handful of years I feel that I need to live and a few more chapters left to right before I really do that. Mostly right now I'm focused on of course growing my business, but that's, that's actually not that hard. I mean, it is, it's hard. Of course it's always hard, but you know that I feel like I could do with fairly smoothly. JS: I've mostly spent the last 16 plus, even 20 years if you add at the beginning of my career. I've spent the last 20 years focused on my career and then growing my family. I think right now I'm really focused on my heart and myself and healing myself, healing my community of course, um, was a sort of in a lot that's happened for me personally in the last couple of years. I'm just trying to process it. I want to enjoy the work that I've done and the energy that I've put out and sort of sit back and watch how, how that looks and see all of this effort and celebrate it. And I guess I want to just fall in love in the deepest, most sacred way. And that's probably with myself. That seems to be really important to me right now. I think it's time to really, really deeply, I guess fall in love with myself and the world. KG: I think that's a perfect sentiment to end on. Julie, thank you so much for being here today. Where can we find the Kefir Cookbook? JS: So the Kefir Cookbook is available on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, Whole Foods has it on the shelf. Independent bookstores, you know, all the places that you buy your books. KG: Perfect. Well, I know we're looking forward to trying out the recipes and again, thank you so much for being here with us today on the #WeGotGoals podcast. JS: Thank you so much for having me. CK: Great. Hey goal getters. This is co-host and producer Cindy Kuzma here.We’re about to play another one of your goals. This one was also recorded live at the Hotel Moxy. We've got a few more coming up for you in the weeks ahead that we recorded live at the Michelob Ultra SweatWorkingWeek Fitness Festival a couple weeks ago as well. Stay tuned too because soon we are going to have a way for you to email or call us with your goals and you can be a part of this very podcast. Thank you so much for listening. And here is your goal. JB: My name is Jaime black. I am a podcaster based in Chicago. CK: Excellent. And Jaime, what is a big goal that you have accomplished and how did you get there or what is the goal you have for the future? JB: That's a good question. I was just, I was just told about 40 seconds ago that I'm doing this. So, um, you know, for me a big goal that I have ahead of me this year is a—well I guess I should say this, a big goal I had recently in the last year was setting up a podcasting class. I teach a podcasting class through a few different platforms like AirBN&B experiences and Dabble. And so getting that up and running was a goal in 2017 and now that that is running, you know, the way that it works is people physically come to my studio space in Pilsen and take the class in person. So my new goal for this year is to really get the, um, the online component of that class active. I have it on one platform. There's like three or four other platforms I'm trying to get it on. So just building the podcasting class that people can take it in person or online and you know, like we're here today because of all the podcast stuff, everything I do is just podcasts related. CK: So, but ah, getting that online presence. So that's like a multifaceted goal, right? Because first you have to figure out the technology and then you have to figure out the marketing. So what are some of the things that you're doing to, to bring that all together? JB: Yeah, there's a lot of steps to building an online class and I'm very new to it. I have it on one platform called teachable. And that was a learning experience because I do a lot of audio work, but I don't do a lot of video work. So taking a class that I teach, it's three hours long and building video content around that when again, I'm not a video producer first and foremost, that was a learning experience and now now that it happened on one platform, I've got to reformat in and kind of retool it so that it could live on a few different platforms. Each of which have their own format and model and you know, kind of activation level. So, you know, it's just plugging these things into different platforms. And uh, and then once it's even alive, then of course you have to actually, like you said, market it, get it out there. And that's just the beginning of getting it just posted on a platform. CK: So how do you plan to get the word out? JB: I think I want to tell me like, just promoted on youtube and I'm like, Oh man, it's going to be more video work, isn't it? But I think, yeah, I think that's what it's going to come down to as short video clips that are going, like help promote and talk about the class and you know, how it can help people learn how to podcast because we're here today because podcasting is really great. So this is a really good time to learn how to become a podcaster because there are resources like this booth here at the Moxy Chicago. Um, and it's just in general, it's, we're in this time now where people are really passionate about podcasts and a lot of people are really finding them. CK: It's true, it's true. So how do people find you and your classes? JB: Yeah, great question. So you can look at dynastypodcasts.com, it's plural. So dynastypodcasts.com with the s at the end of podcasts. I'm, we've got links to the class there and I'm always active on twitter. My twitter is Jamie black, jaimeblack. So I'm always posting my links. If you see me go six hours, without tweeting, like call my parents, something's really wrong, so yeah. CK: Awesome Jamie, well thank you for all of your help here today and thank you so much for sharing your goal. JB: Well thank you for letting me help with this podcast. CK: This podcast was produced by me, Cindy Kuzma, and it's another thing that's better with friends, so please share it with yours. You can subscribe wherever you get your podcasts and if you have a chance to leave us a rating and a review while you're there, we would really appreciate it. Special thanks to J. Mano for our theme music; to our guest this week, Julie Smolansky; and to TechNexus for the recording studio.  

The brothers drop into the war zone of censorship and burning hearts with Library War (Toshokan Sensou). An unusual anime that is one half jousei and one half war drama in a Japan where the government can censor any media it so chooses yet the libraries can defend their collections through force of arms. Into […] Read this post in its entirety at 65: D-Day (the ‘D’ stands for Dewey Decimal) (Library War)

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In which Al and Tony take on the Hammer Horror classic Horror of Dracula! Then Albert nerds out about Godzilla, and then guys read some choice entries from the IMDB Parental Guides. Links Mothra Leo Battra Star Wars Rogue One Final Trailer Dracula vs Frankenstein Monster Squad The Witch The Cabinet of Doctor Caligary (2005) Nosferatu (2016) Woman sends pubic hair to Trump Ouija: Origin of Evil Phantasm Remastered    

This time we talk about Plover and get sidetracked a lot. Tweet at us at @andstuffpodcast Email us at andstuffpodcast@gmail.com still alive by jonathan coulton new orleans maker faire i like to make stuff idiya makerspace/hackerspace brace and bit) cam's youtube channel vertical falling plover cracked on seinfeld dewey decimal system stenography python

In our ongoing quest to become better librarians by reading every genre (regardless of our actual interest) we tackle Religion (non-fiction).   Listen to your hosts Anna Ferri, Meghan Whyte, and Matthew Murray discuss how/whether reading non-fiction is different than fiction, Scientology, new religious movements, travelogues, biographies, how religion interacts with different cultures, accessibility, and Meghan geeks out about charismatic Christianity. Your Hosts This Episode Anna Ferri | Meghan Whyte | Matthew Murray Religion (Non-Fiction) We Read (or kinda): Recommended Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood, and the Prison of Belief by Lawrence Wright (Scientology) Read Silence and Noise: Growing Up Zen in America by Ivan Richmond (Buddhism) Holy Laughter and the Toronto Blessing: An Investigative Report by James A. Beverley (Christianity) Generation J by Lisa Schiffman (Judaism) Speaking of Faith by Krista Tippett (interfaith) Heirs to Forgotten Kingdoms: Journeys Into the Disappearing Religions of the Middle East by Gerard Russell (Various - Middle East) How Good Do We Have to Be?: A New Understanding of Guilt and Forgiveness by Harold S. Kushner (interfaith?) Did Not Finish From Stone to Flesh: A Short History of the Buddha by Donald S. Lopez Jr. Under the Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith by John Krakauer More “books” we mentioned Buddha by Osamu Tezuka Other Links Should atheists read the great books of religion? Oh, Dewey Decimal - you so screwy   Two-Fisted Librarians Interpreting Meghan Eschatology One Church Problem Check out our Pinterest board and Tumblr posts for all the Religious non-fiction people in our club read (or tried to read), and follow us on Twitter!

From the bathhouses of Chicago to the social media of today, join as Lee interviews Rick Storer, Executive Director of the Leather Archives and Museum. Together they explore the shifting language of sexuality, listening to oral histories, the academics of kink… and his fetish for the Dewey Decimal system. As we unpack boxes of memorabilia and the world of leather and alt sex back to the 1920s, he reminds everyone that their stories matter, and that leather is more than a material. . Passion And Soul Podcast:iTunes Subscription: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/passion-soul-podcast-by-lee/id840372122RSS Feed: http://passionandsoul.libsyn.com/rssPast MP3 files: http://passionandsoul.libsyn.comPassionAndSoul Audio Page: http://passionandsoul.com/audioStitcher: http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/erotic-awakening-podcast/passion-and-soulErotic Awakening Network: http://www.eroticawakening.com/podcast Leather Archives and Museum Information: Leather Archives & Museum Website: http://www.leatherarchivesandmuseum.orgLA&M Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/leatherarchives/LA&M Twitter: https://twitter.com/leatherarchivesLA&M Tumblr: http://leatherarchives.tumblr.com/Rick Storer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rjstorerVolunteer for the LA&M: http://leatherarchives.org/promote.htmlLA&M Fetlife Group: https://fetlife.com/groups/1570   Links, Events, People and Movies Mentioned:Victoria & Albert Museum: http://www.vam.ac.uk/LA&M Oral History Project: http://leatherarchives.org/oral.htmlKinbakunomicon Japanese Rope History: http://kinbakunomicon.libsyn.com/Demon Six, Kinkbaku library: https://fetlife.com/users/234258Faviola_Llervu, Kinbaku library: https://fetlife.com/users/1429963Kinbaku Today: http://www.KinbakuToday.comNational Leather Association:Janet Hardy: http://janetwhardy.com/Mollena Williams: http://www.Mollena.comInternational Mr. Leather Contest: http://imrl.com/Man's Country Bathhouse: http://www.manscountrychicago.com/Joseph Bean: http://www.amazon.com/Joseph-W.-Bean/e/B000APR8U0Fetlife: http://www.Fetlife.comJulie Frenell, PhD: https://www.gallaudet.edu/hprs/faculty---staff/history-philosophy-religion-and-sociology/sociology/fennell-julie.htmlGayle Ruben: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayle_RubinJanuary 2011 Podcast -Share Your Story: http://passionandsoul.libsyn.com/ps001-share-your-story-0Carter/Johnson Leather Library: http://www.leatherlibrary.org/Sacred Kink book: http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Kink-Eightfold-Paths-Beyond/dp/055721176X/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=pass-20Mistress Cyan, Los Angeles: https://twitter.com/mistresscyanHow to Gift Your Collection: http://leatherarchives.org/donatecollections.htmlLeather Preservation Project: http://leatherarchives.org/leatherpres.htmlTony DeBlase Leather Flag History: http://leatherarchives.org/pride.htmlNew subject headings in Library of Congress: http://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects/sh85120740.htmlGold Coast Leather Bar: http://www.windycitymediagroup.com/ARTICLE.php?AID=2347 Lee's Upcoming Events/Appearances:http://passionandsoul.com/appearances/ Lee Harrington Contact Information:http://www.PassionAndSoul.com http://www.FetLife.com/passionandsoul http://twitter.com/#!/PassionAndSoulhttps://www.facebook.com/lee.harringon https://www.facebook.com/passionandsoul  

本期对话： DENNY: Can I help you find what you’re looking for? ERIK: No thanks, I know the Dewey Decimal System pretty good. DENNY: Okay, if you need help in the future, just look me up. ERIK: Thanks, but can you tell me if "Dorian Grey" is in the fiction or nonfiction section? DENNY: Oh, that's in the literature corner, just over there. 中文翻译： 丹尼：需要我帮你找找吗？ 埃里克：不用了，谢谢。我很了解杜威图书十进分类法。 丹尼：好的，如果你需要什么帮助，找我就好了。 埃里克：谢谢，可以问下《道林格雷》这本书是小说类还是写实文学类？ 丹尼：哦，在文学作品区域，就在那边。 本期单词： 1. Dewey Decimal system杜威十进分类法 2. pretty good 相当好 3. look me up 来找我，来看我 4. fiction 小说 5. nonfiction非小说的散文文学；写实文学 6. literature 文学 7. poetry 诗歌 实用例句： 1. How long can I keep the books? 这书我能借多长时间？ 2. Where can I check out the books? 我可以在哪里办借阅手续？ 3. I’d like to renew it for two more weeks. 我想再续借两个星期。 4. I couldn’t find this book in the stacks. Would you help me find it? 我在书架上找不到这本书，你能帮我下吗？ 5. Are there any activities or exhibitions in the library recently? 请问图书馆最近有没有什么活动或展览？

Steve, Eric, and Sorosky talk about failed businesses, who has the most Twitter followers between Jim Carrey, Kanye West, Kim Kardashian, reading in school, Dewey Decimal system, more pet peeves, who's the GOAT for talk show hosts. 

In this interview, Alex Clark talks about how creating internet cartoons has helped him to grow and keep in touch with his audience when he's not performing! He also talks about some of the ins and outs of working with an agent. With his show that contains jaw-dropping tricks, quick-witted comedy, and crazy antics, Alex Calrk has traveled around the globe performing at university campuses, festivals, and on other stages. He’s earned two People’s Choice Awards and was voted Best Novelty Act and Fastest Rising Star in the college market. He’s a comedian that stands above the rest, but that’s probably because he’s up on a ladder!   Kris' Recommendation of the Week — Help One of Our Own We have a great opportunity as a part of the magic community to band together to help one of our own. Many of you may know Jeff Stone from Salt Lake City, UT. He's the creator and editor of Stone Cold Magic Magazine, a free web magazine on magic that ran for seven years. He's also known for his work on magic using Frixion ink and fire, he appeared on Jay Sankey's Underground Jam, and also has a new book out called "793.8" which is the Dewey Decimal code for where magic books can be found in the library. Recently Jeff was hospitalized from diabetic complications and consequently racked up some sizable medical bills that he cannot afford. And as if that's not enough, his four-year-old daughter Oliveah was also unrelatedly hospitalized with what turned out to be E-Coli. They're both home now and on the road to recovery, but are now struggling to figure out what to do with this debt. They're trying to raise $20,000 and so far have raised $1,500. I know I have a respectable-sized audience that listen to this show and if Jeff has in any way touched your life or career, please consider giving a donation to his cause. I know he's helped play a part in my magical journey and I donated. Put yourself in his shoes and please consider giving $10 or $20 and I know that together, we can help to put a big chunk in that wall of debt! CLICK HERE to help donate and support. When you donate, please mention that Successful Performercast sent you. Every little bit helps.     Interview with Alex Clark: Success Quotes Just tell people what you want. If you’re not embarrassed by your first product, you waited too long to launch it.     Internet Cartoons • How his internet cartoons have helped get people to his shows. • Talks about he’s been able to use them to help build a fan base and keeps him top of mind. • His cartoons give him a reason to keep in touch with his an base and email list. • His cartoons are an extension of his comedy and another way he can express his talents. • It’s a way for him to give more to his audience. • How he’s monetizing his online cartoons.  Working with Agents • How he got his first agent. • An agent is a tool. • How agents get paid.     Failure Moment Talks about a recent NACA (National Association of Campus Activities) showcase he did where he thought he liked it, but didn’t book a single gig.     Favorite Success Performing in New Zealand at the World’s Busker Festival     How does he stand out from his competition? His internet cartoons.     What's worked well in growing his business? Trying everything. The more things you try, the more apt something is to work.     Biggest Profesional Challenge Figuring out what to do next. He’s achieved all of his goals so far, so now he needs to decide what’s next. He wants the next challenge.     Anything he would have done differently? He wishes he could go back and see what things would be like if he hadn’t made certain decisions.     Interesting Story Tells about his experience at the Edison Fringe Festival which involved a skirmish on the streets outside his hotel and how one very nice Canadian man drove Alex all over town helping Alex find a prop he needed for his show. Plus, there’s a kicker ending.     Other Topics Covered • Talks about how he discovered entertaining and juggling. • Just doing it. • Reaching out and putting yourself out there as much as possible. • Lots of failures lead to successes. • Talks about his branding, “a comedian who happens to juggle." • Talks about his marketing efforts. • How he got his first fair gig. • You never know where your gigs can come from. • Street performing and how to find spots when he’s traveling. • What might be on the horizon for Alex Clark.     Parting Advice Just do it!     Recommended books and resources: Note: Many of the links in this section are affiliate links, meaning we earn a small portion of any sales. If you're enjoying our podcast and decide to purchase one of the recommended resources or books, please consider using our affiliate links to help support the work we're doing here at the Successful Performercast. Thanks!     Resources: Tap Forms for iPhone - a database software Go Button for iPhone | iPad Boomerang for Gmail - scheduling emails     Books: Manual of Juggling by Max Holden Johnny Carson by Henry Bushkin How to Talk to Anyone by Leo Lowndes     Also Mentioned: Get More Corporate Gigs with Barry Friedman Slugbooks     Where can we find Alex Clark? www.itsalexclark.com Alex's Cartoons Twitter @itsalexclark | Facebook | Patreon  

Check out the great perks for The Drunken Odyssey's fundraiser here. In this week's episode, I talk to the journalist Brian Spears, plus Eugenio Negro writes about the adventure of reading Salman Rushdie's The Satanic Verses. BOOKS DISCUSSED NOTES On Tuesday, August 11, at 7:00 P.M. at The Gallery at Avalon Island in downtown Orlando, Jared Silvia, Stephanie Rizzo, Teege Braune, Genevieve Anna Tyrell, and I will read original fan fiction for that month's installment of J. Bradley's prose reading series, There Will be Words. Check out Meg Sefton's upcoming workshop on the fundamentals of flash fiction here. An Albuquerque school adds 13,000 books to library and will not be using the Dewey Decimal system. Check out the great perks for The Drunken Odyssey's fundraiser here.

The Immune System: A Dewey Decimal Novel & Love Maps  & The Luminous Heart of Jonah S. (Akashic Books)  Join us tonight for a special event brought to you by one of the most exciting independent presses in the country, Akashic Books. The Immune System is the explosive final installment in Nathan Larson's Dewey Decimal trilogy. Picking up months after the events of The Nervous System, Dewey finds himself running dirty operations for the crooked Senator Howard. When Dewey is tasked with disrupting unrest from a growing group of outcast civilians, and simultaneously given the assignment of protecting a pair of Saudi royals, he is forced to look within and make some impossible choices. Ultimately, this puts him at odds with his benefactor and the powers that be.  In the course of the novel, we learn the true nature of the 2/14 cataclysm that decimated New York City, and by the end of it, Dewey must choose whether or not to face his own past. He must also decide if he is to be part of the elite control system, or if he's willing to commit himself to the unknown, without the protections he enjoys in the good favor of the landlords of the new New Order. Praise for the Dewey Decimal Series: “The most incredible thing about Larson's novel is just how credible it is . . . and the prose is perfect, as tweaked and jumpy and memorable as the man known as Dewey Decimal. I'm a Library of Congress girl myself, but Larson's uncannily original fiction deserves its own number within any system of library classification.”—Laura Lippman, author of After I'm Gone “Larson's vividly imagined world and his quirky narrator are likely to win him a cadre of loyal fans.”—Publishers Weekly “Whiplash prose, teeth-gnashing dialogue and post-civilization concepts that make a crazy (amateur) librarian in a pitch-black world a hell of a lot of fun . . . A good time for fans of the likes of Charlie Huston and Charles Stross.”—Kirkus Reviews Nathan Larson is an award-winning film music composer, having created the scores for over thirty movies, including Boys Don't Cry, Dirty Pretty Things, and Margin Call. The Dewey Decimal System and The Nervous System are the highly acclaimed first two installments in his Dewey Decimal crime-fiction trilogy. Larson lives in Harlem, New York City, with his wife and son. --- The love in Love Maps is not the kind associated with domestic bliss; it is the kind that bubbles up at inopportune moments, attaching itself to people who might be better off free, causing mayhem and longing, along with moments of rare beauty. The title is taken from a series of paintings by Sarah Marker, an artist who ekes out a living teaching humanities at a fancy high school in Connecticut.  The story begins when Sarah receives a letter from Philip, her erstwhile husband. They have lived separately for seven years, without having seen each other once, without having formally severed ties, in a state of sustained ambivalence. Now he wants to visit. As much as Sarah would like to see him, she is terrified at what he will do when he discovers that he has a son.  Sarah bundles up her son and once again takes flight, only to arrive in a place she had not intended. While navigating the terrain of the 1980s art scene in New York City, she must confront the terrible events surrounding Philip's departure, and reconcile the expectations of domestic life with her own fractured experience of family, confronting the violence and aching love at the heart of this story. Praise for Love Maps: “Who can plot the turns and reversals of the heart? Who can follow its illogical loyalties and mysterious obsessions? Who can reconcile its competing claims from lovers and family? Eliza Factor, that's who, in this stunningly assured novel about a pair of sisters—one a successful artist, the other a famous singer—and the handsome architect who comes between them. The cover should come with a warning to put your life on hold for a few days, because once you pick it up, you won't be able to do anything else until you finish.”—Bliss Broyard, author of One Drop: My Father's Hidden Life—A Story of Race and Family Secrets “Eliza Factor's second novel is a beautiful and uplifting journey through the New York art scene of the 1980s, as lived by one true artist. You'll be hard-pressed to find a character more fully and honestly revealed across the pages of a book than Sarah Marker. A stunning and original exploration of family, romantic love, and the possibility of healing.”—Joseph Weisberg, creator/executive producer of The Americans (FX Network) “By turns lyrical and flinty, searching and suspenseful, Love Maps is animated by the strivings and travails of characters who seek (and find) the real and the true, the territory instead of the map.”—Thad Ziolkowski, author of Wichita “Eliza Factor's Love Maps is a delight, and I read it with mounting pleasure and admiration. It feels strange to think of Love Maps as a pleasure—this is, after all, a book that captures in technicolor detail the pain and vulnerability that come with just about every variety of human relationship. But prose this witty and psychologically deft, and structures this intricate and heartbreaking, don't come around often.”—Ben Dolnick, author of At the Bottom of Everything Eliza Factor is a writer and the founder of Extreme Kids & Crew. She lives in Brooklyn, New York, with her husband and three children. Her debut novel, The Mercury Fountain, was published in 2012 by Akashic Books. -- From Tehran to Los Angeles, The Luminous Heart of Jonah S. is a sweeping saga that tells the story of the Soleymans, an Iranian Jewish family tormented for decades by Raphael's Son, a crafty and unscrupulous financier who has futilely claimed to be an heir to the family's fortune. Forty years later in contemporary Los Angeles, Raphael's Son has nearly achieved his goal--until he suddenly disappears, presumed by many to have been murdered. The possible suspects are legion: his long-suffering wife; numerous members of the Soleyman clan exacting revenge; the scores of investors he bankrupted in a Ponzi scheme; or perhaps even his disgruntled bookkeeper and longtime confidant. Award-winning novelist Gina B. Nahai pulls back the curtain on a close-knit community that survived centuries of persecution in Iran before settling and thriving in the United States, but now finds itself divided to the core by one of its own members. By turns hilarious and affecting, The Luminous Heart of Jonah S. examines the eternal bonds of family and community, and the lasting scars of exile. Praise for The Luminous Heart of Jonah S. "A wide-ranging, page-turning, magical realist, multigenerational family saga and Iranian-Jewish-American immigration tale enveloped in a murder mystery...it both entertains and instructs, and its differing genres seem more complimentary than conflicting."--New York Journal of Books "Nahai has crafted an engaging combination of family saga and murder mystery, placed it in the framework of a relatively unknown subculture, and people it with fascinating characters. Flavored with both elements of magical realism and down-to-earth observations, The Luminous Heart of Jonah S. brings a little-known Los Angeles community to vivid life."--Shelf Awareness "What results is a novel that feels more universal than anything, and an engrossing, expansive epic that charts not only thousands years of Iranian Jewish life, but the brutality of one family's survival amidst revolution and cultural upheaval." --Kirkus Reviews "One of the many pleasures of this sprawling, multigenerational story is the way it transcends the specifics of the Iranian diaspora with insights that could apply to anyone."--LA Weekly "One of Nahai's gifts is her astute observation of this community, her own, which she describes with unsparing precision."--Los Angeles Review of Books "Nahai's eye for detail, whether it's succinctly summing up a funeral or providing a description of a Tehran summer, always seems to be spot on."--PopMatters "An intriguing murder-mystery journey anchored within the Iranian-Jewish community of Los Angeles. Vivid and raw...Nahai masterfully introduces us to the mythical and mundane layers that make up Iranian-American identity."--Washington Independent Review of Books "It's the family connections--the true Iranian heritage--that is the luminous heart of the novel."--The Reporter Group Gina B. Nahai is a best-selling author, columnist, and full-time lecturer at USC's Master of Professional Writing Program. Her novels have been translated into eighteen languages, and have been selected as “Best Books of the Year” by the Los Angeles Times and the Chicago Tribune. She has also been a finalist for the Orange Prize, the International IMPAC Dublin Literary Award, and the Harold U. Ribalow Prize, and has won the Los Angeles Arts Council Award, the Persian Heritage Foundation's Award, the Simon Rockower Award, and the Phi Kappa Phi Award. Her writing has appeared in the Los Angeles Times, Chicago Tribune, San Francisco Chronicle, Los Angeles magazine, Publishers Weekly, and the Huffington Post, among others. She writes a monthly column for the Jewish Journal of Greater Los Angeles, and is a three-time finalist for an LA Press Club Award. Nahai holds a BA and a Masters degree in International Relations from UCLA, and a Master of Professional Writing from USC. She's a former consultant for the Rand Corporation, and a frequent lecturer on the politics of pre- and postrevolutionary Iran.

It's National Geography Week and Children's Book Week, November 12-19. And we have just the tale to celebrate both occasions: Hansel and Gretel (a la Lemony Snicket meets Wizard of Oz). We are back in San Jose, having been to Sacramento to appear on the ABC-affiliated show Sac and Company and to Modesto to perform at the library this week. We'll tell you a bit about the inner workings of a live TV show. And right now Zephyr is helping pull apart Callson Manor, the haunted house he worked at last week, while we babysit the property at night. Nominated for Storytelling Podcast Award!Our story "Simple Ivan" has been selected as one of 12 finalists in the Pickle Tales "Tell Me a Story" Podcasting Competion. Now listener votes will determine if it moves to the next round. Register with Podcast Pickle so you can participate in the voting process November 13-16! And so long as you are at it be sure to add us to your favorites http://activated.podcastpickle.com and leave us your comments. Please check back for more information and links November 13th. Hansel and GretelHansel and Gretel get ditched in the woods and have to escape an evil hag who lives in a sweet house and find their way back home. In our version they meet a few other storybook characters who give them some bad directions along the way. National Geography Week We've been traveling full time since 1992 and have had more than our share of bad directions. Nowadays, we use GPS, computer map programs and Google Maps on our cell phone to get where we are going. But way back when we started touring, we had to rely on people to give us directions. It's amazing we got anywhere! Hardly anyone knows the name of the streets in their hometown. And we have repeatedly scratched our heads after hearing "Well, you turn left at the old Jones place and if you come to the train tracks you've gone to far!". And "Just turn right at the corn field." We'd like to point out that we are in Kansas and surrounded by cornfields but don't have the heart. So bottom line, study those maps and read those street signs so you can help someone find their way. And if you want to get anywhere, learn your geography and how to use a GPS! Or else you will have to leave some bread crumbs! Rescources for National Geography Week Children's Book Week Zephyr has been reading the entire "Series of Unfortunate Events" to mom and dad this month. And in this episode Dennis recounts his encounter with Daniel Handler (a.k.a. Lemony Snicket). Reading out loud is an excellent way to celebrate Children's Book Week. We hope you'll celebrate by following a map to your local library to see what special events they have planned. And while you are there, check out some childrens' books. Especially in the folktale section (Dewey Decimal 398.2). And be sure to get a copy of "Tales from Under the Crevice" or the sequel "Tales from Under the Nook" by our resident young author Zephyr Goza at your library or bookstore, or online at CreviceTales.com. Activities and ideas for Children's Book Week at Education World Happy Listening! Dennis, Kimberly and Zephyr Goza

Episode Summary: Is it finally here? Is this actually real?! Is it happening, or are we just DREAMING? Welcome to Season 2 Episode 16, where we cover the Prologue-Chap.3 of The Dream Thieves! We are indeed BACK with our first episode covering the second book of The Raven Cycle, The Dream Thieves! Join us as we introduce our favorite hit man, talk about the fairytale-esque stories of the Lynch family, Nievita reveals that she has discovered the birthdate of Niall Lynch, Shannon reveals that she shares one of Ronan's favorite things, and we both reveal that we are huge nerds by making Monty Python references. (Just kidding on that last one--you already knew we were huge nerds.) And we want you to tell us… what should trigger our Season 2 Drinking Game? DEEP DIVE: Tropes & Motifs of Fairytales and Celtic Mythology (from approx. the 19:49 minute mark to 36:59, depending on player) Subscribe at: https://ravingirls.podiant.co or wherever you get your podcasts, and please comment, rate, or review! - - - - - Next Episodes: 12/20/18-- Ravin' Girls Episode 17, covering chapters 4-7 of TDT 1/3/19-- Ravin' Girls Episode 18, covering chapters 8-11 of TDT Past Episode Guide: https://ravingirls.tumblr.com/episodes - - - - - Find our complete shownotes on WordPress: https://ravingirls.wordpress.com - - - - - Acknowledgements: The Raven Cycle and all affiliated properties (The Raven Boys, The Dream Thieves, Blue Lily, Lily Blue, and The Raven King) are copyright Maggie Stiefvater and Scholastic, Inc. The Ravin' Girls reference these properties for the purpose of literary analysis. Intro and Outro music by Damiano Baldoni, used under CC Attribution License: http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Damiano_Baldoni/Lost_Dinasty/ The original tracks have been edited for the podcast. Ravin' Girls logo and banner art © 2018 Mio Mäkijärvi, All Rights Reserved. Please visit http://kojotei.tumblr.com/ for more information. trc, ravencycle, ravenboys, maggiestiefvater, ravencyclepodcast, episode16, ravingirls, podcast, yalit, literaryanalysis, literary, analysis, raven, cycle, boys, king, dream, thieves, lily, blue, trb, tdt, bllb, trk, theravenboys, thedreamthieves, bluelily, theravenking, maggie, stiefvater