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March 31, 2025 | Season 5 | Episode 11The weakening US dollar may be the canary in the coal mine for broader market troubles ahead. Despite conditions that should strengthen it—high interest rates, geopolitical uncertainty, America's military dominance—the greenback has fallen against nearly every major global currency in 2025. This unusual pattern suggests foreign investors are losing confidence, potentially withdrawing the capital that traditionally supports US stocks and bonds.Meanwhile, markets are bracing for what President Trump calls "Liberation Day" on April 2nd, when new tariff policies are expected. Reports of a possible 20% universal tariff on all imports have sent tremors through Wall Street, with Goldman Sachs cutting its S&P target twice this month. The potential $11,000 price increase on imported vehicles illustrates the real-world impact these policies could have on consumers and businesses alike.The artificial intelligence sector appears to be entering a crucial transition phase where investors demand tangible returns on massive investments. Drawing fascinating parallels to the 1990s internet boom, experts remind us that only 1% of today's internet giants existed just 2.5 years after Netscape Navigator launched. Today's market leaders may not be tomorrow's AI champions, suggesting opportunities in companies like Snowflake, Intuitive Surgical, and cybersecurity firms that will protect increasingly vulnerable AI systems.For fixed income investors, discussions about potentially eliminating municipal bond tax exemptions to fund Trump tax cut extensions present both risk and opportunity. While concerning, municipal bonds have already priced in some of this uncertainty, potentially creating value for long-term investors willing to weather the volatility.As we navigate these complex market currents, watch the dollar's trajectory carefully—it may tell us more about where markets are heading than traditional economic indicators. What signals are you watching as we enter this period of heightened uncertainty?** For informational and educational purposes only, not intended as investment advice. Views and opinions are subject to change without notice. For full disclosures, ADVs, and CRS Forms, please visit https://heroldlantern.com/disclosure **To learn about becoming a Herold & Lantern Investments valued client, please visit https://heroldlantern.com/wealth-advisory-contact-formFollow and Like Us on Youtube, Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn | @HeroldLantern

Chi è Marc Andreessen, l'inventore di Netscape Navigator, e poi una sintesi del commercio con gli Stati Uniti, una classifica dei migliori vini italiani secondo Wine Searcher e il problema degli australiani con lo Shiraz. Buon Ascolto! ———Unisciti al gruppo Telegram The Digital Wine Lovers e al canale The Digital Wine, chatta con me su Telegram e seguimi su Instagram, mi trovi come Wine Roland. Puoi finanziare il podcast abbonandoti alla newsletter o con una donazione offrendomi un caffé:La Newsletter: https://thedigitalwine.com/newsletterOffrimi un caffè: https://ko-fi.com/thedigitalwineFai una donazione: https://thedigitalwine.com/grazieIl sito web: Storie del Vino———Soundtrack: Funk 'n' Jazz by texasradiofish (c) copyright 2015 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Noncommercial (3.0) license. https://dig.ccmixter.org/files/texasradiofish/51247 Ft: Bill Ray, Stefan Kartenberg, Reiswerk

Thank you to the folks at Sustain (https://sustainoss.org/) for providing the hosting account for CHAOSSCast! CHAOSScast – Episode 105 In this episode of CHAOSScast, host Alice Sowerby introduces guests Heather Ellsworth, Wayne Mery, and Luis Cañas-Díaz. Today, the conversation focuses on the collaboration between Thunderbird and Bitergia, detailing their journey in using Grimoire Lab to gather community metrics. Key points include the importance of metrics in understanding community dynamics, the various tools monitored for data collection, and the impact of these metrics on community management. The panelists also share advice for other open source projects considering adopting Grimoire Lab and reflect on future plans. Press download now to hear more! [00:00:31] Alice, Heather, Wayne and Luis introduce themselves and share their backgrounds. [00:04:08] Wayne explains Thunderbird's history and evolution from Netscape Navigator and Heather adds her personal experience with Thunderbird as a user and developer. [00:06:21] Luis elaborates on Bitergia's role in providing data and metrics for the Thunderbird community. [00:07:51] Heather discusses the project between Thunderbird and Bitergia, focusing on community health and data analysis and Wayne emphasizes the need for metrics to understand community dynamics better. [00:10:10] The origin of the collaboration idea is traced back to discussions about community metrics and Heather and Wayne reflect on their discovery and learning process with GrimoireLab and CHAOSS. [00:12:09] Luis compares the Thunderbird project with other similar projects and discusses the challenges due to diverse tools. [00:13:47] Heather talks about developing dashboards to monitor various types of contributions within the Thunderbird community. [00:16:06] Wayne describes refining the data to better suit Thunderbird's needs. [00:17:16] Heather mentions how metrics have influenced Thunderbird's community engagement strategies. [00:18:13] The accessibility and public sharing of dashboards is discussed. [00:21:13] The conversation turns to future plans with GrimoireLab, metrics, and Thunderbird are outlined, focusing on understanding community dynamics better. [00:23:05] Heather speaks about some of the dashboards in more detail. [00:25:50] Luis talks about new developments on GrimoireLab, including the extension and updating of tools by their team to enhance support for forums, translation, communication, and tracking issues. [00:27:46] Our guests share advice about adopting GrimoireLab for other open source projects and GrimoireLab's benefits. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: * [00:30:25] Alice's pick is party games like pass the parcel. * [00:31:49] Luis's pick is a new coffee machine and making coffee. * [00:32:35] Heather's pick is Belgium chocolate from FOSDEM. * [00:33:21] Wayne's pick is touring Belgium. Panelist: Alice Sowerby Guests: Luis Cañas-Díaz Heather Ellsworth Wayne Mery Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project X (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Alice Sowerby LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/alice-sowerby-ba692a13/?originalSubdomain=uk) Luis Cañas-Díaz LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/canasdiaz/) Luis Cañas-Díaz Website (https://sanacl.wordpress.com/) Heather Ellsworth Mastodon (https://fosstodon.org/@linuxflower) Heather Ellsworth LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-ellsworth-a0564446/) Wayne Mery LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/wayne-mery-bb46517/) Thunderbird Blog-“Open Source, Open Data: Visualizing Our Community with Bitergia” (https://blog.thunderbird.net/2024/12/visualizing-the-thunderbird-community-with-bitergia/) Thunderbird (https://developer.thunderbird.net/) Bitergia (https://bitergia.com/) Bitergia Analytics-Thunderbird (https://thunderbird.biterg.io/app/dashboards#/view/Overview?_g=(filters:!(),refreshInterval:(pause:!t,value:0),time:(from:now-1y,to:now))&_a=(description:'Overview%20dashboard%20with%20data%20from%20SUMO,%20Bugzilla,%20Thunderbird%20and%20Pontoon.%20By%20Bitergia',filters:!(('$state':(store:appState),meta:(alias:Bots,disabled:!f,index:bugzilla,key:author_bot,negate:!t,params:(query:!t),type:phrase),query:(match_phrase:(author_bot:!t)))),fullScreenMode:!f,options:(hidePanelTitles:!f,useMargins:!t),query:(language:kuery,query:''),timeRestore:!t,title:Overview,viewMode:view)) Thunderbird Installation Statistics (https://stats.thunderbird.net/) Thunderbird Participate (https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/participate/) Pass the parcel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pass_the_parcel) Special Guests: Heather Ellsworth, Luis Cañas-Díaz, and Wayne Mery.

This week we're joined by Tara Hernandez, former manager of Netscape Navigator development, as she takes us inside the legendary 90s browser wars. Tara shares her experiences working at the cutting edge of Internet technology, from joining Netscape in 1995, to the heated competition with Microsoft's Internet Explorer, and the iconic decision to open-source the Mozilla code. Hear about the challenges of working 120 hour weeks, wild office celebrations, and pranks during the battle for Internet dominance.  Contents: 00:00 - The Week's Retro News Stories  36:13 - Tara Hernandez Interview Please visit our amazing sponsors and help to support the show: Bitmap Books - https://www.bitmapbooks.com Check out PCBWay at https://pcbway.com for all your PCB needs We need your help to ensure the future of the podcast, if you'd like to help us with running costs, equipment and hosting, please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://theretrohour.com/support/ https://www.patreon.com/retrohour Get your Retro Hour merchandise: https://bit.ly/33OWBKd Join our Discord channel: https://discord.gg/GQw8qp8 Website: http://theretrohour.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theretrohour/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/retrohouruk Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/retrohouruk/ Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/theretrohour Show notes: Mode 7 on NES: https://tinyurl.com/yukdj9m2 Cyclopean: https://tinyurl.com/4xzzndcm Yoshi DS leaked: https://tinyurl.com/8hu5nzjj 1986 Mac Plus online: https://tinyurl.com/4x4chsub

From absurd web beginnings to some misplaced national pride, tech folklore never disappoints. A mouthful of a name that could make even the most patient typist weep, "Jerry and David's Guide to the World Wide Web," could have single-handedly crashed Netscape Navigator. Meanwhile, the digital world's party crasher, Error 404's origin story - linked to CERN's room 404 - proves even glitches have intriguing backstories. Closer to home, Nilesh's trip to Mumbai's Panjrapur water plant uncovered a juicy tidbit about BMC's potential entrepreneurial foray in the water business. And Sheetal's pilgrimage to Toronto's Bata Shoe Museum shattered our collective illusion - turns out, our favourite "Indian" shoe brand has been international all along, leaving millions of Indians feeling somewhat... misled. We remain your #funtech companion through traffic jams, morning jogs and side-listens during boring Zoom meetings. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Product marketing's purpose is to drive product adoption by shaping market perception through strategic marketing activities that align with business goals.” Are you making the mistake of focusing too much on product and not enough on the market? In this episode, Martina Lauchengo, a partner at Costanoa Ventures and the author of the SVPG book “LOVED: How to Rethink Marketing for Tech Products”, discusses the often-overlooked importance of marketing in the success of tech products. Martina challenges the traditional notion of “product market fit,” suggesting “market product fit” instead, because a product's value is determined by the market's capacity to absorb it. She emphasizes the critical role of go-to-market strategy in informing product development and driving adoption. We explore the four fundamentals of product marketing outlined in Martina's book: ambassador, strategist, storyteller, and evangelist. Martina shares real-world examples of how these principles have been applied successfully, highlighting the importance of understanding customer needs, crafting compelling narratives, and enabling authentic evangelism. Tune in to discover valuable insights into how to rethink marketing for your tech products and achieve greater success.   Listen out for: Career Journey - [00:01:52] Market in the Product Market Fit Dimensions - [00:04:02] Importance of Go-To-Market - [00:07:02] Marketing Tech Product - [00:09:16] Product Marketing vs Marketing Campaign - [00:12:17] Sales-Marketing-Product Roles - [00:15:52] How Product Marketing Collaborate - [00:17:20] Product Marketing Metrics & Attribution - [00:21:16] 4 Fundamentals of Product Marketing - [00:25:33] Ambassadorship - [00:28:40] How to Get Customer Insights - [00:31:25] Human Aspect of Product Marketing - [00:35:47] Directing the Product Go-To-Market - [00:39:03] Storytelling - [00:41:53] Curating Stories - [00:44:50] Evangelism - [00:46:52] Authentic vs Authoritative - [00:49:26] Product Review Channels - [00:52:16] Product Support - [00:54:07] 3 Tech Lead Wisdom - [00:56:01] _____ Martina Lauchengco's BioMartina spent 30 years as a marketing and product leader. She started her career working on market-defining software, Microsoft Office and Netscape Navigator. She teaches what she's learned with SVPG and is a lecturer at UC Berkeley's graduate school of engineering. As a partner at Costanoa Ventures, she sits on multiple boards and coaches startups. She is the author of LOVED: How to Rethink Marketing Tech Products, a #1 Amazon Best Seller. Martina holds a B.A. in Political Science and M.A. in Organizational Behavior from Stanford University. She's a native Californian, mother of two, and proud wife to Chris. Follow Martina: LinkedIn – linkedin.com/in/martinalauchengco Costanoa Ventures – https://costanoa.vc/ Silicon Valley Product Group – svpg.com

Enjoying the content? Let us know your feedback!Today we're discussing an exciting trend in the world of technology—the browser is no longer just a window to the web. So we asked is it becoming the operating system itself?From the early days of Mosaic and Netscape Navigator to today's cloud-powered Chromebooks, the browser has evolved dramatically. In this episode, we'll explore the security implication, the history of browsers, the famous browser wars, and how today's browsers are blurring the lines between web interfaces and operating systems.Having said that, lets recap a top trending security news shall we?Exploiting CUPS: How Recent Vulnerabilities Could Compromise Linux Security- https://www.evilsocket.net: Attacking On UNIX Systems Via CUPS Part I-https://en.wikipedia.org: History of The Web Browsers- https://en.wikipedia.org: Browser WarsBe sure to subscribe! If you like the content. Follow me @iayusuf or read my blog at https://yusufonsecurity.comYou will find a list of all previous episodes in there too.

Bienvenue à l'écoute de ce nouvel épisode avec François Sorel et Bruno Guglielminetti.EN PARTENARIAT AVEC FREE PRO, LE MEILLEUR DE FREE POUR LES ENTREPRISESAu sommaire : - L'iPhone 16 : nos premières impressions sur le nouveau smartphone d'Apple.- Le Huawei Mate XT, un étonnant smartphone étonnant qui se plie en trois et qui permet à la Chine de marquer des points en termes d'innovation technologique.- Environnement : le développement effréné de l'intelligence artificielle commence à poser de gros problèmes de pollution, à cause de son impact carbone et de sa consommation d'eau. - Il y a 30, le logiciel Netscape Navigator voyait le jour et devenait le plus célèbre navigateur Internet.Bonne écoute ! -----------♥️ Soutien : https://donorbox.org/monde-numerique

Can AI relationships redefine intimacy, or are they a threat to genuine human connections? Join Nathan Mumm and Mike Gourdet on Tech Time Radio as we venture into the ever-evolving world of technology, where the lines between human and machine blur. From the Senate's upcoming debate on AI surveillance and data rights to the surprising story of a Waymo self-driving car getting pulled over, this episode promises to keep you on the edge of your seat. Expect a mix of thought-provoking insights and light-hearted moments, like the quirky possibility of Alexa judging your music taste and the buzz around a real retractable lightsaber.Our deep dive into the bipartisan American Privacy Rights Act reveals how this legislation, led by Maria Cantwell and Kathy McMorris-Rogers, could revolutionize consumer data control. With provisions enabling users to opt-out of targeted advertising and seek financial damages for data breaches, the bill could reshape our digital interactions. We draw parallels with the UK's GDPR, discuss the potential commercialization of AI services like Bing's Copilot, and underscore the critical need for AI regulations to protect consumer rights and prevent unforeseen consequences.The ethical implications of AI relationships take center stage as we explore the growing trend of AI-powered chatbots as therapists and companions. Leveraging insights from MIT sociologist Sherry Turkle, we scrutinize the dangers of "artificial intimacy" and its impact on real human connections. A compelling case study highlights the risks of substituting human interaction with machine feedback, raising significant privacy and data security concerns. All this, plus a nostalgic look back at the release of Netscape Navigator and a sneak peek at our upcoming Geek Fest, makes for an unmissable episode.

Bob Priest-Heck joined Trade Show Talk to share his experience as CEO of Freeman, a privately owned global events company that employs more than 4,500. As he prepares to step down from his role on June 28 after 15 years at Freeman and six years at the helm, Priest-Heck reflected on the risks and rewards of his career that spans more than 35 years in the events industry. We talked about the early days when he was on the show management side and had a front-row seat to launching and producing massive tech events during the Internet boom. Under his leadership at Freeman, the company was recognized by Forbes as #4 in the Best Employers for Women and also as a Best Large Employer, and Chief Marketer named Sparks, a Freeman Company, to its Top Marketing Agencies of 2022. He shared insight on succession planning, design thinking and the transformation of live events post-pandemic. Find out the scoop on what's next for his gap year.    Our guest: Bob Priest-Heck, CEO & Board Member, Freeman   Priest-Heck is known as a visionary leader of people and events. His extensive experience across industries, technologies, and geographies brings a forward-thinking view to people development, business strategy, and the industry at large.   Under his leadership, Forbes recognized Freeman as #4 in the Best Employers for Women and also as a Best Large Employer, AdAge listed Freeman as the world's largest global event marketing company in their World's 50 Largest Agency Companies list, and Chief Marketer named Freeman to its Top Marketing Agencies of 2022.   An advocate of design thinking, Priest-Heck inspires by demonstrating innovation, made possible in a diverse and risk-tolerant environment. He encourages and motivates employees to integrate and optimize new technologies, championing Freeman's vision to transform the world of live engagements.   Priest-Heck has always worked at the forefront of innovation in the events industry.  In the emergence of digital technology, he managed and created specialized trade events for early internet developers. He was a contributor when the first user-friendly web browser, Mosaic, was relaunched as Netscape Navigator. He moved to Japan to unveil the first major tech event produced outside of the U.S., NetWorld+Interop, and built a market for disruptive technology events. He helped host the first JavaOne conference for developers while working with Sun Microsystems, acted as an executive coach to Google leadership, consulted UBM (now Informa) on key acquisitions, and helped Dwell magazine expand its media platform into the new world of brand experiences.   Priest-Heck continues in the spirit of transformation and is respected for his progressive efforts in technology, advocacy, sustainability, and safety. He is optimistic about the future of the events industry and its evolution as the world's markets change. At the forefront of the pandemic, Bob brought together over 80 industry leaders to form Go LIVE Together, facilitating legislative action to support the industry. This effort lives on as the Exhibitions & Conferences Alliance (ECA), for which Bob serves as a board member. He also collaborated with John Cordier, CEO of Epistemix, on the creation of EnVision, a conference that brings together top health officials, scientific experts, and industry executives.   Most recently, Priest-Heck was part of the CEO advisory group that launched the Net Zero Carbon Events pledge at the UN Climate Change Conference, COP26. Additionally, he has been honored among BizBash's 2021 Most Influential Event Management & Consulting Professionals, received the 2021 Catalyst Award from Smart Meetings as an agent of change in the meetings industry, and was named by Meetings Today as one of the top twenty 2020 Meetings Trendsetters, recognizing those who stepped up when the industry needed them most.   Through Priest-Heck's leadership, Freeman continues to transform live events, working as a team to reshape experiences — virtual, in-person, or integrated — that unite people for the moments that matter, no matter the format or timeframe.   Related: FREEMAN NAMES JANET DELL AS CEO WHEN BOB PRIEST-HECK RETIRES IN JULY  

A conversation with Maj. Julian “Cosmo” Gluck '12, a flyer with the heart of a pilot, the soul of a golden age aviator, and an insatiable yearning to learn. Why? In part to support developing leaders of tomorrow. ----more---- SUMMARY Major Julian "Cosmo" Gluck '12, shares his background and experiences in the Air Force and as a bomber pilot. He discusses his childhood, involvement in various activities, and his decision to join the military. Major Gluck also talks about his leadership roles at the Air Force Academy and the challenges he faced. He then delves into his experience flying B-52s and explains the difference between a pilot and an aviator. Finally, he clarifies the distinction between rated and non-rated officers. He discusses his involvement with the Order of Daedalians, a professional fellowship organization for military aviators. He also shares his experience transitioning to Harvard Business School and the Air Force Reserve and about the importance of leadership across different lanes. Julian reflects on what he has learned about himself and his future plans. He emphasizes the significance of giving back and volunteering, as well as the impact of the Air Force Academy and alumni involvement.   OUR FAVORITE QUOTES "I would say the juxtaposition between the military lifestyle—which often is more regimented—and a desire to both give back and be creative. So these secondary and tertiary desires that I really wanted to have in my personal life and professional life to continue to self-actualize and feel comfortable were always at sort of a crossroads, but the Academy made that possible." "I think there is a lot of strength in knowing that you do not know something. And through my time in business school, there is a lot that I think many of those who are coming from civilian careers—that more directly relate to business—would think is just information that everyone is armed with that is absent for many of us who were not as directly involved in running for-profit organizations or who weren't involved in sales, investment banking, or any of these other careers." "I would say, I'm going to do a plug for the AOG: If there are things that you want your AOG to do, you are the person who can help facilitate that as well, just like I aim to, like many others. An alumni organization, a nonprofit, a charity is only as strong as its membership corps." "I think overall down the road, as long as I'm making a positive impact in my circle and in my community, that's the most important thing to me. Like, I don't want to give up the uniform. I've loved serving in the Air Force, and I'll stay in the Air Force Reserve—hopefully as long as they'll keep me—and it would be great to have more opportunities to lead again." "I would leave you with, if you have some time available, if there's money that you're seeking to donate, there is a cause that will resonate with you. Just go to the search engine of your choice, maybe it's Ask Jeeves … [or] go to Lycos—I think that was a search engine—in your Netscape Navigator. Go look up on AOL these interests, and you'll be able to find a charity that works for you.” - Maj. Julian "Cosmo" Gluck '12   SHARE THIS EPISODE  FACEBOOK  |  LINKEDIN  |  TWITTER  |  EMAIL   CHAPTERS 00:00:  Introduction and Background 04:01:  Childhood and Life Before the Academy 08:01:  Leadership Roles at the Academy 14:53:  Flying B-52s 19:50:  Difference Between Rated and Non-Rated 21:30:  The Order of Daedalians 26:14:  Transitioning to Harvard Business School 30:06:  Leadership Across Different Lanes 33:08:  Learning About Oneself 37:15:  Future Plans 40:10:  Giving Back and Volunteering 42:37:  The Air Force Academy and Alumni Involvement   TAKEAWAYS FOR YOU - The Order of Daedalians is the professional fraternal order of military aviators and commemorates the service and valor of World War I pilots while providing fellowship for current and former flyers today. - Programs like the Civil Air Patrol—the civilian auxiliary of the Air Force—provide another avenue for service members, veterans, and civilians to give back in meaningful ways. - Transitioning from the military to civilian life can provide opportunities for strategic development and new ways to support organizations. - Leadership takes different forms in various contexts, from leading in the military to leading in the classroom. - Humility and the willingness to learn from others are important qualities for personal growth and effective leadership. - Giving back and volunteering in various organizations can provide a sense of fulfillment and make a positive impact in the community. - The Air Force Academy and alumni involvement play a significant role in shaping individuals and fostering a sense of pride and service.   MAJ. GLUCK'S BIO Maj. Julian "Cosmo" Gluck is a reservist in the Defense Innovation Unit in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. He additionally serves as Chairman Emeritus of the Department of the Air Force Company Grade Officers' Council, supporting the 47,000 captains and lieutenants of the Air & Space Forces. Maj. Gluck grew up in LaGrange, Georgia and received his commission in 2012 as a Distinguished Graduate of the United States Air Force Academy. During his career he was selected as the 2018 Air Force Times Airman of the Year, received the 2019 Secretary of the Air Force Leadership Award, was named to the 2020 Forbes 30 Under 30, and chosen as one of the 2023 Ten Outstanding Young Americans by JCI USA. Prior to his current position, Maj. Gluck served on Air Combat Command staff; served as Aide-de-Camp to the Commander of Seventh Air Force; led 64 aircrew flight equipment and SERE personnel; and was Executive Officer for the Department of Defense's largest bomb group. He is an instructor pilot in the B-52H Stratofortress and is a graduate of Euro-NATO Joint Jet Pilot Training. Maj. Gluck flew combat missions in Operations INHERENT RESOLVE and FREEDOM'S SENTINEL out of Al Udeid Air Base, Qatar and has deployed in support of U.S. Indo-Pacific Command. MAJOR AWARDS AND DECORATIONS - Meritorious Service Medal with oak leaf cluster - Air Medal - Aerial Achievement Medal with oak leaf cluster - Air Force Commendation Medal with five oak leaf clusters - Air Force Achievement Medal with oak leaf cluster - German Armed Forces Badge for Military Proficiency in Gold PUBLICATIONS “Opening the Door to Cultural Understanding and Mutual Cooperation,” Journal of Indo-Pacific Affairs, June 2021 “The Gray Legion: Information Warfare Within Our Gates,” Journal of Strategic Security, December 2021 “Kasa-obake: A Spirited Case against Abandoning the U.S.-Japan Nuclear Umbrella,” On the Horizon, May 2022 “South Korea's Second Sight: Risks and Rewards for the ROK-US Alliance with Russia,” Issues & Insights, June 2023 PROFESSIONAL MEMBERSHIPS AND ASSOCIATIONS - British-American Project - Center for a New American Security - Council for the United States and Italy - Order of Daedalians - Pacific Forum   CONNECT WITH JULIAN LINKEDIN  |  @JULIANRGLUCK ON INSTAGRAM     ABOUT LONG BLUE LEADERSHIP Long Blue Leadership drops every two weeks on Tuesdays and is available on Apple Podcasts, TuneIn + Alexa, Spotify and all your favorite podcast platforms. Search @AirForceGrads on your favorite social channels for Long Blue Leadership news and updates!        TRANSCRIPT OUR SPEAKERS Guest, Maj. Julian "Cosmo" Gluck '12  |  Your Host, Lt. Col. (Ret.) Naviere Walkewicz '99   Naviere Walkewicz 00:01 My guest today is Maj. Julian “Cosmo” Gluck, USAFA Class of 2012 graduate of distinction based in Boston. He is currently serving in the Air Force Reserve in the Defense Innovation Unit and pursuing his MBA at the Harvard Business School. There is so much in Maj. Gluck's background that we'll just touch the surface for now. He flew B-52s for more than six years, and in 2023 he was named one of 10 outstanding young Americans, which puts him in the company of American presidents, statesmen and generals, including the Air Force Academy Association and Foundation's Gen. Mike Gould, Class of '76, who received the honor in 1985. In 2020, Maj. Gluck was named to Forbes 30 Under 30 list for law and policy. In 2018, he was named Air Force Times airman of the year. He is a published author, public speaker and contributor to international discourse on public policy, sharing his lessons in leadership with students in elementary school, at university, senior leaders in defense, nonprofits, and national level elected policymakers. We'll talk with Maj. Gluck about his work as a member of the Air Force Reserve, and how that relates to his membership in the Order of Daedalians, a fraternal organization founded after World War I comprised of aviators. He is a gregarious man of warmth, humility and humor, always willing to share what he knows with those aspiring to become aviators, lead or be better leaders, and always ready with an enthusiastic, “Howdy!” This should be a very enjoyable conversation. Joining us from Boston, Julian, welcome to Long Blue Leadership.   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 01:42 Well, I feel like I have to say howdy now, but I was gonna' say it anyway. So good to be here.   Naviere Walkewicz 01:46 Howdy. So glad you're here with us today. Thank you for making the time. We are really excited to learn more about your thoughts on leadership. But as we like to, we want to kind of take a step back, rewind the time a little bit and learn about young Julian. Why don't we start there? Tell us about your childhood life before the Academy.   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 02:06 Sure. So, I grew up all around primarily the southeastern United States. My dad's a pilot and was going through different positions. My mom's an occupational therapist. They had met in Texas, but I was born in Florida. And then over the course of my childhood, I lived in Florida, Tennessee, Maryland, South Carolina and Georgia, where I finished out elementary school, middle school and then high school. And when I was a kid, I was involved in a myriad of different activities. I really enjoyed acting and got the chance to co-star in a public broadcasting television show with the GPB, one of the stations back in Georgia. I did a little bit of entrepreneurship, starting a company when I was 14. I became involved in the Civil Air Patrol and high school wrestling, extemporaneous speech competitions. And with all the different activities going on, I wanted to continue on the tradition in my family of military service. Applied to the Air Force Academy. Thankfully, the “Zoo” let me in. And it's been a great time since.   Naviere Walkewicz 03:04 Who were some of the influences in your life that kind of led you down that path. I know you mentioned, you know, your family has had many that have served. Are those who influenced you? Are there others maybe that you read or influenced you as well.   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 03:16 The members of my family are the largest influence on my decision to join the military. I'm fifth generation. As you go through different lines in the family, people on both sides had served primarily in the United States and hearing their stories of both sacrifice of putting the organization over oneself, the service to country really resonated with me as a kid. And so I knew even when I was very young that I wanted to serve in the military, as well as a lot of the reading I did as a child, I would say. And then going through my time at the Academy was also very much a philosophical focus throughout. A lot of philosophy mixed in as well with the standard books that one would read as a kid.   Naviere Walkewicz 04:01 Five generations. Would you say that it was destiny then to go into the military via the Air Force Academy or just the military in general? Or was it really intentional on your part?   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 04:11 I think there were definitely some elements of the Academy being the destination. Now as far as Air Force Academy versus a few of the others, I would say lesser options with our rivals on the East Coast there. I wasn't initially sure which one I was going to apply to. And ultimately the Air Force Academy made the most sense to me, primarily because of the Academy's awesome record of placing people into really impactful, strategic roles later on. I like the emphasis on technology. And I think as well, having a Japanese program which only the Air Force Academy and maybe the Naval Academy had, I wanted to take Japanese classes, so that was something that was on my mind.   Naviere Walkewicz 04:54 Did you take Japanese class?   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 04:56 [Speaking Japanese here.] So, I did indeed study Japanese. It was my minor at the Academy, and sometimes really useful either in like bilateral track to diplomatic scenarios or ordering sushi at really nice restaurants.   Naviere Walkewicz 05:16 I don't think I would be as successful. All I remember is [speaking Japanese here], which is, “Where is the bathroom.”   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 05:22 That's really important.   Naviere Walkewicz 05:26 So let's talk about the Academy. Maybe what were some of the roles in leadership you had? Or let's just talk about your Academy experience in general. Kind of set the stage for us.   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 05:34 So, the first leadership role I ever had at the Academy was the Mitchell Hall Food Focus Committee. So, Doolie year, freshman year, I'm sitting in the SAR, the squadron assembly room — I'm not sure if the audience is all super-familiar with the acronyms or if they've changed over time — but I'm in the SAR, and they're like, “Hey, we have a volunteer opportunity.” And I'm just thinking in my mind, I've been at the Academy for a few weeks, this is my chance to be an impactful leader early on, and they just needed someone to test out the food at Mitchell Hall. I raised my hand really proudly. And over the course of the year, I gave my own attempt at food criticism to the excellent staff and Mitchell Hall trying to shape the meals cadets would have. Now, I'm not sure if I've had any jobs since then that is quite as impactful. I'm still trying to chase that incredible opportunity to rate how hard the cookies were, or that the chicken fillet sandwiches were pretty solid. But after that one, I would go into primarily roles that were focused on sort of command-oriented leadership, I was the first sergeant I believe, squadron superintendent for basic cadet training. I served on group staff a couple of times culminating as the Group Commander for Cadet Group 1, First Group, so I had a great time doing that. My summers were spent flying gliders, doing the SERE program when we still had CST, and as well as getting the chance to do an internship at the Senate. So, I was the one cadet that was sent there as sort of an interim military legislative assistant, and did basic another time, as well as the Director of Military Guidance Officers. Another role that I did through sophomore through first year was the Personal Ethics and Education Representative Program, the Peer Program, at a really good time. And I thought that it was really valuable getting to speak with cadets who are having troubles in their personal life, professional life, and really be able to help for more challenging issues, such as ones that may involve the law or medical needs. And then for ones that I felt like I could have a good handle on being able to practice my interpersonal communication and super useful later on in my career.   Naviere Walkewicz 08:06 You held many leadership positions, and I'm sure there are many accolades that came with that. What were some of the challenges that you experienced in those positions? And how did you balance being a leader all the time with your own needs, and developing yourself?   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 08:20 I would say the juxtaposition between the military lifestyle which often is more regimented, and a desire to both give back and be creative. So, these secondary and tertiary desires that I really wanted to have in my personal life and professional life continue to self-actualize and feel comfortable. We're always at sort of a crossroads. But the Academy thankfully made that possible. Now I did that at the expense of probably getting eight hours of sleep per night, maybe about half of that most of the time, and a lot of all-nighters, but I think there were some people who are just hardcore DGs and still got eight hours of sleep. I'm not one of those. I did not get a lot of it. But when I was there doing the cadet leadership jobs, I needed an outlet. So, for Doolie year, I acted with Blue Bards, I tried to relive a little bit of that child acting background and that was a lot of fun. We did Grease and 12 Angry Men. Then through both four degree year, all the way up through first year, and a little bit as a casual lieutenant, I sung with the In the Stairwell acapella group, and was a beatboxer and sung bass as well. And that was a phenomenal time getting to perform for the senior leaders that came in at the White House a couple times, and then later on getting to relive that as well as an alumnus at the America's Got Talent semifinals doing an exhibition before the then current crop of cadets just totally crushed it out there on the stage. So, I think throughout that time at the Academy, just being able to go, “Hey, I need to really focus on academics, I need I grow in my leadership capabilities.” But I also want creative things. And then community service-oriented things. And that was where I became involved with programs like the Knights of Columbus, when I was a cadet finding ways to give back and the local community and lead volunteer projects across the state of Colorado and then eventually, nationally, internationally.   Naviere Walkewicz 10:20 I really appreciate you sharing that. Because I think sometimes there might be a misconception or a perception even that, you know, you can be a leader and you have to be really strict and focus and you can't really focus on other things that you're really passionate about, or you know, that bring joy as well. Right. So maybe you can't have both, but I really appreciate that you shared that you can. So, do you prefer beatboxing or bass? What does that sound like?   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 10:44 Well, these days, so I recently joined the Harvard Business School acapella group, which is called Heard on the Street. And I'm still beatboxing. But I'm getting a little bit more into the singing part primarily because over the past 10 years, it's mostly been playing along with my guitar, and singing karaoke. So, I definitely enjoy beatboxing but I'm enjoying doing more singing these days as well.   Naviere Walkewicz You're holding back on…   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 Go to YouTube and see some old clips. I think I'll refrain from beatboxing on your… I haven't checked this mic to see if like a…. [Beatboxing]   Naviere Walkewicz 11:25 So, that was amazing. No, I think that the mic came through fantastically. And no, that is wonderful. We really appreciate that. And again, it also plays into, you know, we really can be fully immersed in a lot of things, right? We don't have to just be down one lane when it comes to leadership and, you know, pursuing our dreams. So, let's talk a little bit about while you were in the military. You share that you flew B-52s for over six years. What was that experience like? And then I'm gonna' ask you a follow-on about flying because there's something as a non-flier, non-rated grad, I just have a question on so first, tell us about what it was like flying B-52.   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 12:05 So, flying the B-52, aka the “Buff,” was a blast. It's a very challenging aircraft, I think, compared to many others in the inventory. It is an older platform. It's older than my father. And based on earlier versions that are older than both my parents, and probably many of the current cadets' grandparents. My grandfather, in fact, asked me when I told him I fly the B-52, “They're still flying those?” And I was like, “Indeed, Grandpa, and you enlisted in the Air Force after they'd already been in service.” But I can tell you, although they are up there in years, it's a very lethal platform. It's an effective platform. It's constantly being brought to the forefront of innovation through the incredible work that the tech community does, that the primes and other companies are able to leverage with different technologies as far as munitions, its radar capabilities, a lot of exciting changes with new engines that will be coming about for the next generation of bomber pilots. So, I enjoyed flying it. It definitely had its moments where it tested my limits. And I'm super grateful for the instructors and weapons school graduates who helped develop me from a young, very uncertain co-pilot to being a more adept, and I would say, empowered aviator, as I continued to like, become more comfortable, and eventually have the chance before I departed the community for other opportunities to instruct as well.   Naviere Walkewicz 13:39 What were some of the challenges that you faced in that? Was it more just a level of comfort? Or was it other things?   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 13:44 I think in the B-52, there's a wide range of different mission-sets that you need to be familiarized with. I mean, not only the nuclear deterrence mission, that is the Secretary of Defense's No. 1 priority, and extremely critical for our ability to deter and assure you also have the close air support mission, you see just a massive suite of different weapons, you need to be able to control an aircraft that has sometimes sluggish controls. And as you're powering through different regimes in the airplane, you also need to be not only taking care of your own aircraft, but if you're flying in formation, as a formation leader, mission leader or even a mission commander, you need to be able to have an awareness of all the other aircraft and players that are out there in the “kill box” or wherever you're operating. So, I think as we're moving up from co-pilot to aircraft commander and mission lead and eventually to instructor, the stakes become higher. The challenges as far as your knowledge set your situational awareness and task management increase. And thankfully with great instructors and those in more senior positions who believed in the opportunity to continue to progress, I had the just joy of a lifetime getting to fly the B-52. Particularly with my crew in 2016 to [2017], as a young co-pilot out in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan in operations Inherent Resolve and Freedom Sentinel. So, by far the most impactful, meaningful six months of my life, and that would not have been possible without the B-52 community.   Naviere Walkewicz 15:29 That's really powerful. Thank you. One of the questions that's on my mind, and I think for others that maybe aren't in the aviation community — so, pilot versus aviator: Can you demystify this?   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 15:40 Sure, I'll do my best. And I think it also depends on which branch, the terminology differs a little bit, I believe in the Navy particularly. But for the Air Force, I would normally think of an aviator as a rated individual who would either be a pilot, a weapons systems officer or navigator, a flight surgeon, others who have a set of wings on the officer side, and that take part in some aspect of the airplane. Pilots in particular are the ones normally controlling the aircraft as far as the movements of it, which you would normally think of as aviating — whereas like weapon system officers doing the navigating.   Naviere Walkewicz 16:26 That is helpful. One of the things we do is we know we have a group of listeners that may not know some of our terms. So, can you explain the difference between rated and nonrated?   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 16:35 I will do my best with that as well. So, a rated officer is a person who has gone through a formal technical training program that relates to the flying of a particular mission system. Whether that is an aircraft or a UAS, or remotely piloted aircraft. So, unmanned aerial system for UAS, so these individuals have on their service dress or mess dress or on their flight suit, a set of links that indicate that there's this particular skill set that was developed over time. And the rated aviators have particular requirements. As far as medical, in addition to their technical training, you have to make sure you're able to still fly. And they also have certain other personnel system requirements. So, when I think rated, I think of a person who is in the cockpit or on the airplane with a very specific job of like, an air battle manager is a rated aviator, who on different command control platforms, has a particular mission set with controlling battlespace, that's also considered rated.   Naviere Walkewicz 17:48 We want to make sure that everyone feels able to connect with what you're sharing. So that was a fantastic…   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 17:54 If there's anything wrong, just go to the comments. Just continue to like — increase the social media exposure by saying, “Cosmo, you're wrong!” And I'll make it.   Naviere Walkewicz 18:03 No, that's perfect. Thank you. Well, before we kind of leave this topic of aviation, I'd really like to learn a little bit more about the Order of the Daedalians. Can you talk about this organization a bit? How did it come to be part of your life? I think that's just one that we're not all familiar with.   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 18:20 The Order of Daedalians is a professional order of military aviators that was founded by World War I pilots around 1934. And these particular pilots wanted to start an organization that would commemorate the service that occurred, all the valor that took place in the skies for the Great War, and then afterward to be able to continue to interact with each other and then have a network of convivial interaction between them. But over time, the Order of the Daedalians, and through its charitable arm, the Daedalian Foundation, has grown into this organization for all military aviators of around 10,000. I believe in our current membership, and our organization not only helps connect aviators from the past and present, but also to continue to commemorate that service of the founders of the organization. We do scholarships to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars to help students in ROTC programs who wish to become military aviators. And we also have in addition to those academic scholarships, flight scholarships that teach people how to fly. We have a program that supports a Junior ROTC and awards program for different rated aviation training programs to celebrate the success and excellence of the students who are in there. So as the youngest member of the board of trustees, I'm grateful to get to learn from incredible senior leaders and general officers who have flown a variety of different aircraft. And I think it is a wonderful program for those who are still on active duty or in the Reserve as well as those who have separated or who are retired, who would like to continue to swap stories. There are a lot of fantastic speakers who come in and continue to contribute to the next generation of flyer while still paying homage or respect to those who came before us.   Naviere Walkewicz 20:16 What's something that's been really personal to you that you've been proud to see the Order of the Daedalians take part in? Can you share maybe a more specific story?   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 20:24 So, coming into the organization, I noticed that we had, and I will say this resonates with a lot of sort of Golden Age fraternal organizations like the Knights of Columbus and many others, a wealth of experience with our older members who are very dedicated. Perhaps they're fully retired from their jobs, they have a lot of time to give back, but not as many younger members who are coming in, particularly those who are still actively wearing the uniform and flying. So thankfully, with the support of the full-time professionals at the Order of Daedalians and our trustees and directors at the foundation and the order itself, we got together to discuss a lot of ways to innovate the organization to bring it into its next phase, particularly to help drive recruitment and retention with a lot of these potential younger members by having the opportunity to go to bases and really advocate that the order of the Order of the Daedalians is not only a force for good in that it's helping train new aviators, which is a critical need for the national security enterprise, but it's also a fantastic retention tool by providing a strong network of mentorship. So my hope is that a lot of the meetings that we had take place that focused on bringing everyone together, will eventually culminate in a desire for perhaps any listeners to this particular podcast, who go, “You know what, this is a historic program, I would like to volunteer or be a part of it and get to listen to some amazing stories, and then do my part to give back as well.”   Naviere Walkewicz 21:59 Thank you for sharing that. And that really speaks very clearly to me. That's one of the things here at the Association that we're working to do as well, you know, really ignite our younger graduates into membership and participation and engagement. Well, let's shift gears a little bit from the world of aviation, you know, you talked about it as a cadet, you had kind of two facets that you're really interested in the creative side, and also the leadership side. Of course, they don't have to be mutually exclusive. Maybe you can talk about what it's like now to transition. You're at the Harvard Business School, you're an author, let's talk about this lane a little bit.   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 22:35 So, I am super grateful to be a reservist. I had a really engaging time on active duty. It was fantastic for leadership development with some fantastic leaders over the years. But the wonderful thing about the Air Force is there's so many different ways to continue serving in uniform. One of my big interests, that was my desire to go back to school, and find other opportunities to support organizations, including the United States government, through ways that I thought were more focused on strategic development. Going to the Reserve, transitioning through the Palace Chase program, and going back to school has made all of that possible. So as a reservist, now I'm assigned to the Defense Innovation Unit, and the Office of the Secretary of Defense where we help with dual-use technologies, helping bring a lot of the technologists and founders leaders of different programs who have ideas that can support a range of portfolios for the Department of Defense, such as autonomy, AI, energy, human systems, bringing those together to help improve our DOD systems, particularly for a lot of these smaller companies that could use a lot of support. So that has been fantastic. I'm still very much in an embryonic stage within my Reserve service. There's a lot for me to learn. And as I'm going through this transition, it's been amazing getting to talk to reservists who've been there and done that. They've done the transition, and they're continuing to give back. It's not about the money for them. It's about a way to continue to give back to our United States military. And that's something it's really inspiring to me, and inspired me a lot when I was out in Korea as an aide and with all the reservists who would come in to be part of the chase and take time away from their families and from their busy jobs to suit up, you know, put on their flight suits, come out to Korea and really make a difference for our bilateral/multilateral organizations out there. So that's been fantastic. At Harvard, it's been a wonderful learning opportunity. I loved my time at the Academy. I wouldn't trade it for anything. It was the perfect undergrad experience for me. Now going through as a grad school student, I'm kind of getting to see that other side. I've got the more college dorm-style apartment even though I'm not living on campus. As you know, it's not quite hacky sack in the quad that I was imagining that college would be. But the range of different people who are members of the HBS Class of 2025 is so interesting, people from all around the world, very different backgrounds. I mean, of course, we have venture capitalists, consultants, bankers here, but there's also a very, I would say, engaged and interesting veteran group. And I really love hanging out with the other veterans who are in both my section and the class at large. In fact, one of the traditions that we started in my section is the veterans would all wear Hawaiian shirts on Fridays, and so I had to buy a lot more Hawaiian shirts, because I was never stationed at Hawaii, did not have a hardly any of them. And that's where I found this Air Force Academy, Hawaiian shirt.   Naviere Walkewicz 25:55 So, that is outstanding.   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 25:58 I don't think anyone else who's coming on your podcast is probably gonna' have one of these. So, yes, it's been really great at HBS. I'm learning a lot. I have two and a half more semesters left. And I'm excited for what comes next as well.   Naviere Walkewicz 26:12 Well, let's dig into that a little bit. So, you went to the Academy, you had incredible opportunities to lead. You've done some of this in the Reserve. And then also, at Harvard, what does leadership look like across those different lanes? How have you seen leadership evolve, and how has it shaped you during this time?   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 26:34 The opportunities I had to lead both at the Academy and on active duty, certainly inform and help bring different context and experience to the leadership opportunities I may have at school now or that I hope to have in the future. I will say there's a lot to learn to bring that into full realization as I continue through this transition from military to the civilian world. So as I look at like my experience as a flight commander for aircrew, flight equipment technicians, and SERE when I was at Barksdale, or getting to serve as a director of staff at Air Combat Command, and the A-3, a lot of those involved, be able to help our junior enlisted to be able to work with phenomenal senior non-commissioned officers how to help pass information up and down the chain to innovate, to go through a lot of the administrative challenges that are elements of bureaucracy and probably omnipresent no matter what sort of organization you're in. So those have been great. Now, at school, I would say a lot of the leadership could be leadership in the classroom. For me as someone not coming from Goldman Sachs or Bain, I have a lot of learning and followership I'm enjoying in the classroom right now is getting to really just taken a lot from all of the incredible experiences of my younger section mates and classmates who have had very relevant experience. And then the aspects of the veteran experience that also relate myself and many others in the veteran community who are students at my business school, and I'm sure at many of the other ones across the country in the world are able to relate to is also super-useful. So, I'm excited as I go into professional work, both this summer and after graduation, to be able to bring the gregariousness as described at the beginning to my next job and a lot of those fantastic opportunities to learn and serve in the military as I continue to grow and hopefully become a more effective cross-sector leader.   Naviere Walkewicz 28:48 So, you talked about, you know, you have a lot to learn. What has been something you've learned about yourself so far in this journey, thinking about leadership and what our listeners are hoping to glean? You know, what's something you've learned about yourself weather as a follower, to your point, you know, how important is it to be a follower in the world of leadership, etc.?   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 29:10 I think there's a lot of strength in knowing that you do not know something. And through my time in business school, there is a lot that I think many of those who are coming from civilian careers that more directly relate to business would think is just information that everyone is armed with. That is absent for many of us who were not as directly involved in running for profit organizations or who weren't involved in sales, investment banking or any of these other careers. So, during my time at HBS, I've definitely practiced the skill of humility. I have seen it in action with some of the challenging tests that I have taken so far over the past semester and a half and I'm learning about myself the sorts of activities that I really enjoy as I consider the kind of careers that are on the outside flying airplanes. And then going into, let's say consulting is a big leap. But there are also a lot of elements of that sort of leadership that are, I would say, at least are correlate with each other. And as I continue to figure out, what am I skilled at, what do I enjoy, and sometimes those aren't always aligned, I can reach out to mentors to classmates, to grads, in particular, I've reached out to a lot of grads who are out there in the civilian world to find out, ‘What do you recommend? How do I improve? How do I grow in this?' And I'm excited for the kind of development that I hope to see and that I will strive to really develop over the next year and a half and then many years ahead?   Naviere Walkewicz 30:54 And has there been a tidbit of leadership from some of those mentors, you've reached out to in the graduate committee or across different lanes that have really impacted you? And if so, what would you share with the group?   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 31:06 I would say, a lot of the grads I have spoken with that are maybe from like the '90s and 2000s, who have gone to business school or law school or medical school, have shared how much of an impact the military had on them. And where there are sometimes vacuums for that sort of selfless leadership and that aspect of giving back that are in uniform, that you really need something like that, to continue to really feel like you're giving it your all, and that you're in the right place - that you could be like, you could be making millions and millions of dollars. That is a story that was relayed to me by a former Air Force pilot. But if you are not finding a way to really do something for others, it may come across meaningless in many ways, like you can be happy on a yacht. I'm sure if anyone out there has got one, I'm happy to hop on sometime over spring break. But programs like the Civil Air Patrol to the Air Force Auxiliary, that giveaway for grads, who are perhaps still in uniform or out of uniform to continue to give back to do things such as domestic search and rescue, or helping mentor and teach middle school, high school and college students. Those are ways that like really connect you with service, that aren't full time jobs, that have less responsibility. I would say then continuing to serve in the Reserve and still allow a lot of different freedoms that maybe you want to experience that provide another shade of meaning that perhaps you're not getting in one full career.   Naviere Walkewicz 32:44 And I think that's really meaningful for people to hear, right? I think, when you're looking at success, how you define success, certainly, there's an element of being able to have the freedom to do things that you want, that money brings. But there's also the fulfillment internally that comes from being part of or doing something bigger. So how much longer in your program?   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 33:03 So, I've got two and a half semesters left. I'll graduate, God willing, or I think I remember from my four-degree days, and basically that 20, if you make it that far, like I heard that a lot.   Naviere Walkewicz 33:16 All right, so May 2025. What's next, Julian?   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 33:19 I'm not sure quite yet after graduation. This summer, I have a really phenomenal opportunity lined up to be a consultant with McKinsey & Company in their London office. So, this is the pre-LinkedIn update. I'll be at McKinsey this summer. I applied to a few other fellowships, and I'm interested in finding ways to continue to learn about these different sectors, how one can grow a company as well as an organization that is a not-for-profit, like most of my experience or within government service. After graduation, I hope to have continued opportunities over the decades to come to give back. Certainly interested in public service, as well as being able to develop different organizations. So, we'll see. But I'm definitely excited for this summer. And I think there's a lot that I have to learn with McKinsey just across the pond.   Naviere Walkewicz 34:18 You're certainly no stranger to kind of putting everything into something and kind of seeing the benefits that come from that — all of the awards I went through beyond learning and seeing what's out there, what you just described, is there something else that you're like, at some point down the road, this is something I'm striving for?   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 34:34 I think overall down the road, as long as I'm making a positive impact in my circle — and in my community — that's the most important thing to me. Like I don't want to give up the uniform. I've loved serving in the Air Force and I'll stay in the Air Force Reserve, hopefully as long as they'll keep me and it would be great to have more opportunities to lead again. Being a flight commander was immensely rewarding. I really loved working with the airmen and if I had other opportunities to lead more directly in the future, I'd love to do so. And hopefully continue to give back, serve other organizations and continue to volunteer at the local level and on up.   Naviere Walkewicz 35:13 And you've had many different experiences in leadership. What are the one or two things you want to leave with the audience to take away from this from you?   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 35:24 I would say and I'll plug sort of my company grade Officers Council message. I had a great time in CGSC as lieutenant and a captain and now serving as chairman emeritus for the department, Air Force CTOC. I would say that, for those who are still on active duty, wherever you're stationed, there is a fantastic place where you can serve your community and do your part. And for our grads, and retirees, no matter where you're at, there is a charity that would love to have you on their team. So, providing your time, your talents, your treasure to a variety of organizations, if you want to work with kids, there are fantastic charities out there that will help you mentor the next generation. If you want to support the elderly and those who've come before us. There are plenty of organizations as well. So, I would leave you with, if you have some time available, if there's money that you're seeking to donate, there is a cause that will resonate with you, just go to the search engine of your choice. Maybe it's Ask Jeeves and just put, you know, what I might have to check after this broadcast. Just making sure I said a different one, it would sound like maybe a sponsorship message, but go to Lycos I think that was a search engine in your Netscape Navigator, go look up on AOL, your interests, and you'll be able to find a charity that works for you. And for the other tidbit of leadership, if there is something that you are not good at, there are people who will help you who care about you, that will continue to take time to help you improve in that. And I'm finding that every day at HBS as I make my way through finance classes and accounting that there are classmates who know far more than me, are far smarter than me. And that can really help out. And I think that's the same in uniform, I got lots of help when I was a pilot in the B-52 and would never have made it through pilot training or the bomber schoolhouse in the FTP or many other programs without incredible support from peers and instructors. So that's what I'll leave.   Naviere Walkewicz 37:32 Those are gifts of information that just keep giving in so many ways. So, thanks for sharing that. Well, we're at a point where I want to make sure that you had a chance to share everything that you would like to with our listeners. Was there anything I didn't ask you, or something that you really want to share when it comes to leadership?   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 37:50 I would say, I'm gonna do a plug for the AOG. If there are things that you want your AOG to do, you are the person who can help facilitate that as well. Just like I aim to, like, many others, an alumni organization, a nonprofit, a charity is only as strong as its membership corps. So, as you continue to think about how you want the Air Force Academy to be a part of your life after graduation, if you're the kind of person that says, “Hey, I drove away from Arnold Hall or North Gate or South Gate with the chapel in my rearview mirror, and it's kind of the furthest thing from my memory at this point,” then, I urge you to consider the impact that the school had, whether it was the those icy days marching outside, or perhaps some of the more fond memories that you'll have of the Zoo. Not everything and everyone's cadet experience was perhaps what you hoped it would be. But all of us were shaped by that experience there. I love the Academy. I got a lot out of it. And I hope to continue to give back to it, whether it's through the AOG, or just being able to talk with the current crop of cadets, alumni and give back. We're either cadets or alumni of an incredible institution. And let's show those other service academies that the Air Force Academy is truly the premier military academy in the United States.   Naviere Walkewicz 39:15 I can get behind that. That's outstanding. Thank you so much. So Julian, for our listeners. If anyone wants to get a hold of you, how would you suggest they do that?   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 39:23 You'll probably find me surrounded by case studies at HBS. So just wake me up so I'll do some more studying. Other ways — you can find me on LinkedIn. I'm one of the only Julian Glucks. You can also find me on Instagram, it's JulianRGluck. If you put it without the “R”, it'll be one of those other Julian Glucks who's probably tired of people reaching out to him. So, I'm happy to talk with current cadets, grads and continue to build those bonds that we have as Zoomies.   Naviere Walkewicz 39:54 Thank you so much for joining us today on Long Blue Leadership, Julian. It's been fantastic.   Maj. Julian Gluck '12 39:58 Always happy to chat with you and anyone else from the glorious old Zoo so thank you very much   Naviere Walkewicz 40:03 Thank you.     KEYWORDS aviators, cadets, leadership, academy, volunteer, organization, continue, flying, Air Force Academy, Julian, Gluck, give, military, charity, opportunities, pilot, serve, learn, rated, fantastic, program, leader     The Long Blue Line Podcast Network is presented by the U.S. Air Force Academy Association and Foundation      

It's clear from Helldivers 2's marketing that the game is directly inspired by Blair-era Dutch arthouse anti-war movie Starship Troopers. It's also clear from playing it that Warhammer 40,000 and the future war bits of Terminator have made their mark on the project, and with its sprawling, player led, strictly PVE campaign engendering a keen sense of community among players, it's rather like a wholesome war-themed social club for 90s teenagers. As a Nearly 40 it feels laser-targeted at my exact levels of pop culture cutoff, shooting skill, and associated decrepitness. It takes a lot of willpower after a play session to not immediately open Netscape Navigator and e-commerce that poster of the grey alien that says “take me to your dealer” and also one of Gillian Anderson doing a pout. But my wife wouldn't let me put them up anywhere, so it would be a waste of £18.98 plus shipping. I would advise current teenagers to never grow up and move out: that freedom is an illusion. Stay at home where it's cheaper and nobody bats an eyelid if you cover your bedroom walls with folk off the telly in sultry poses. What the actual fuck was I talking about. Oh, yeah, podcast. So which other games are Secret and/or Unofficial Adaptations of films or TV shows? And of them, which are the best? In order to find out what our expert panel thinks, you should watch or listen to this week's Best Games Ever podcast. Methods for doing so are handily listed below, so you don't have any excuses. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin ✓ Claim Key Takeaways  The more technology and capitalism we get, the better things are going to get Fundamentally, whether or not a startup succeeds depends on whether it is building a product that people want Great people want to be around other great people; most companies are too tolerant of mediocrity In the long run, even the most innovative companies eventually become boringTall Poppy Syndrome: Due to humanity's tribal inclinations, the Tall Poppy – the person trying to do something new – tends to get cut When something in tech is successful, it tends to change the status structures and hierarchies of societyThe Law of Crappy People: The quality of any level in the company will degrade to the worst person at that level “More companies die of indigestion than of starvation.” – Marc Andreessen  The best companies can think in the long term despite the pressures to prioritize the short-term New things in the world are not going to show up predictably By 2030 or 2035, you will be able to have the equivalent of 1,000 AI programmers writing code for you Most people who are opposed to technological change are not opposed to the given technology but are opposed to how that technology may diminish their status and power Read the full notes @ podcastnotes.orgMarc Andreessen is a prominent entrepreneur, investor, and software engineer best known for his key role in the development of the early internet. In the early 90s, Marc co-created Mosaic, a pioneering web browser, while a student at the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign. In 1994, he founded Netscape, launching the popular Netscape Navigator browser. After selling Netscape to AOL in 1999 for $4.3 billion, Marc founded Opsware, selling it later for $1.6 billion. In 2009, he co-founded Andreessen Horowitz, a venture capital firm that has backed, among others, Airbnb, Facebook, Instagram, and SpaceX. Known for his insights into technology, Marc's early work with Mosaic and Netscape significantly shaped the internet's growth, and his ongoing contributions continue to influence the tech industry. ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: LMNT Electrolytes https://drinklmnt.com/tetra ------ House of Macadamias https://www.houseofmacadamias.com/tetra ------ Squarespace https://squarespace.com/tetra

Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin ✓ Claim Key Takeaways  The more technology and capitalism we get, the better things are going to get Fundamentally, whether or not a startup succeeds depends on whether it is building a product that people want Great people want to be around other great people; most companies are too tolerant of mediocrity In the long run, even the most innovative companies eventually become boringTall Poppy Syndrome: Due to humanity's tribal inclinations, the Tall Poppy – the person trying to do something new – tends to get cut When something in tech is successful, it tends to change the status structures and hierarchies of societyThe Law of Crappy People: The quality of any level in the company will degrade to the worst person at that level “More companies die of indigestion than of starvation.” – Marc Andreessen  The best companies can think in the long term despite the pressures to prioritize the short-term New things in the world are not going to show up predictably By 2030 or 2035, you will be able to have the equivalent of 1,000 AI programmers writing code for you Most people who are opposed to technological change are not opposed to the given technology but are opposed to how that technology may diminish their status and power Read the full notes @ podcastnotes.orgMarc Andreessen is a prominent entrepreneur, investor, and software engineer best known for his key role in the development of the early internet. In the early 90s, Marc co-created Mosaic, a pioneering web browser, while a student at the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign. In 1994, he founded Netscape, launching the popular Netscape Navigator browser. After selling Netscape to AOL in 1999 for $4.3 billion, Marc founded Opsware, selling it later for $1.6 billion. In 2009, he co-founded Andreessen Horowitz, a venture capital firm that has backed, among others, Airbnb, Facebook, Instagram, and SpaceX. Known for his insights into technology, Marc's early work with Mosaic and Netscape significantly shaped the internet's growth, and his ongoing contributions continue to influence the tech industry. ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: LMNT Electrolytes https://drinklmnt.com/tetra ------ House of Macadamias https://www.houseofmacadamias.com/tetra ------ Squarespace https://squarespace.com/tetra

Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin ✓ Claim Key Takeaways  The more technology and capitalism we get, the better things are going to get Fundamentally, whether or not a startup succeeds depends on whether it is building a product that people want Great people want to be around other great people; most companies are too tolerant of mediocrity In the long run, even the most innovative companies eventually become boringTall Poppy Syndrome: Due to humanity's tribal inclinations, the Tall Poppy – the person trying to do something new – tends to get cut When something in tech is successful, it tends to change the status structures and hierarchies of societyThe Law of Crappy People: The quality of any level in the company will degrade to the worst person at that level “More companies die of indigestion than of starvation.” – Marc Andreessen  The best companies can think in the long term despite the pressures to prioritize the short-term New things in the world are not going to show up predictably By 2030 or 2035, you will be able to have the equivalent of 1,000 AI programmers writing code for you Most people who are opposed to technological change are not opposed to the given technology but are opposed to how that technology may diminish their status and power Read the full notes @ podcastnotes.orgMarc Andreessen is a prominent entrepreneur, investor, and software engineer best known for his key role in the development of the early internet. In the early 90s, Marc co-created Mosaic, a pioneering web browser, while a student at the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign. In 1994, he founded Netscape, launching the popular Netscape Navigator browser. After selling Netscape to AOL in 1999 for $4.3 billion, Marc founded Opsware, selling it later for $1.6 billion. In 2009, he co-founded Andreessen Horowitz, a venture capital firm that has backed, among others, Airbnb, Facebook, Instagram, and SpaceX. Known for his insights into technology, Marc's early work with Mosaic and Netscape significantly shaped the internet's growth, and his ongoing contributions continue to influence the tech industry. ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: LMNT Electrolytes https://drinklmnt.com/tetra ------ House of Macadamias https://www.houseofmacadamias.com/tetra ------ Squarespace https://squarespace.com/tetra

And Another Thing With Dave, by Dave Smith #AATWD In this episode, part 4 of 6 in a 3 hour conversation with one of the founders of Anonymous. We cover a lot of ground. --------- EPISODE CHAPTERS WITH SHORT KEY POINTS --------- (0:00:03) - Considering a Career in the NYPD I declined NYPD fast track, saw darker side of policing with cousin's detective group, breaking law to keep streets safe. (0:05:00) - Corruption Within the NYPD Growing up in an NYPD family, I witnessed corruption, long shifts, and lower-level criminals taking advantage of vulnerable people. (0:11:03) - Privacy and Surveillance on the Internet Internet privacy, security, VPNs, Silk Road, FBI, and a 1998 hitman attempt are discussed. (0:16:20) - Silk Road and Undercover Cop We explore the early days of the internet, mainstream media's role, and modern hackers' legitimacy. (0:34:57) - Nostalgic Reminiscing About AOL and Gaming We recall early internet days, modding, phone-freaking, and saving 1.3 million lives. Who ever thought that the decision to turn down a career in the NYPD could lead to a deep dive into the world of online security, hacking, and the early days of the internet? Let's unravel the journey together. As a child, I was exposed to the harsh realities of police corruption, seeing it through the experiences of my cousin, an NYPD officer. This shocking exposure led me down a path of ethical questioning, eventually culminating in a decision to hack the NYPD systems and expose the rot. Have you ever wondered how safe you truly are online? Our foray into internet privacy and security will leave you pondering. We shed light on the fascinating tale of Silk Road and the relentless pursuit by the FBI. From the tantalizing allure of the internet's underworld to the chilling reminder that computers are always watching, we question the actions of modern hackers and the efficacy of VPNs. But, it's not all grim. There's an intriguing story about a failed attempt to hire a hitman back in 1998, offering a glimpse into the wild early days of the internet. Finally, let's take a trip down memory lane, back to the times of Netscape Navigator and AOL, when the internet was not quite the behemoth it is today. We bring to life the beginnings of the online community, filled with gaming LAN parties and the breaking of news on the internet. Amidst advanced technology, it's a nostalgic look back at a time when we controlled technology, not the other way around. So join us, listen, laugh, and learn as we reminisce and revel in the journey of how far we've come. If you are digging what I am doing, and picking up what I'm putting down, please share the podcast on social media and with friends. Reviews are greatly appreciated. You can leave a review on Apple Podcasts, or Spotify . Thanks again!!! Follow me and find More of My Content with link below ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/andanotherthingwithdave⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Thank you to my listeners throughout the world. Now heard in 65 countries. According to Spotify my podcast is in the top 20% of podcasts shared internationally. Listener locations: 69% USA 11% Canada 6% United Kingdom  5% India 2% Germany 2% Romania 1% Russia less than 1% in 50 plus countries THANK YOU all !!! #aatwd #andanotherthing #davesmith #podcast #conspiracies #truther #rich #1% #99% #99percent #anonymous #epstein #silkroad NYPD, Corruption, Privacy, Surveillance, Internet, Silk Road, Undercover Cop, AOL, Netscape Navigator, LAN Parties, Modding, Phone-Freaking, Hacking, Ransomware, Gaming, News Breaking, Power, Save Lives --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andanotherthingwithdave/message

Marc Andreessen is a prominent entrepreneur, investor, and software engineer best known for his key role in the development of the early internet. In the early 90s, Marc co-created Mosaic, a pioneering web browser, while a student at the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign. In 1994, he founded Netscape, launching the popular Netscape Navigator browser. After selling Netscape to AOL in 1999 for $4.3 billion, Marc founded Opsware, selling it later for $1.6 billion. In 2009, he co-founded Andreessen Horowitz, a venture capital firm that has backed, among others, Airbnb, Facebook, Instagram, and SpaceX. Known for his insights into technology, Marc's early work with Mosaic and Netscape significantly shaped the internet's growth, and his ongoing contributions continue to influence the tech industry. ------ Thank you to the sponsors that fuel our podcast and our team: LMNT Electrolytes https://drinklmnt.com/tetra ------ House of Macadamias https://www.houseofmacadamias.com/tetra ------ Squarespace https://squarespace.com/tetra

And Another Thing With Dave, by Dave Smith #AATWD In this episode, part 2 of 6 in a 3 hour conversation with one of the founders of Anonymous. We cover a lot of ground. --------- EPISODE CHAPTERS WITH SHORT KEY POINTS --------- (0:00:01) - Conspiracy Theories and v for Vendetta We discussed water shortage, gangster activity, Pizza Gate, Epstein, V for Vendetta, and the importance of true knowledge. (0:06:18) - Exploring Motivations and Divisions in Society Veefer Vendetta examines how information access has changed, current wedge issues, and freedom of choice in a free country. (0:16:15) - Controversial Opinions on History and Beliefs We examine the legacy of colonialism, access the dark web, discuss indentured servitude, and explore identity formation in Hispanic communities. (0:23:35) - Women in Native American Culture Perception Native American culture's respect for women, Jack the Ripper era views, and women's newfound strength are discussed. Get ready to bust your bubbles of ignorance as we dive into the deep and often murky waters of societal issues, conspiracy theories, and historical narratives. With a critical lens on the state of affairs in California, we question the water shortage crisis, the rise in gangster activity and why these matters seem to be on the back burner for most of us. The Pizza Gate and Epstein controversies are not left out of our fiery discourse, as we probe the deep-seated power dynamics that allow for such atrocities to occur in broad daylight. Ever wonder how the themes from V for Vendetta eerily parallel our current reality? Tune in as we unravel this intriguing topic, and so much more. We dissect the societal shifts in the U.S., focusing on California, discussing everything from the water crisis to the increasing gang activities. You'll also hear our take on controversial topics like Pizza Gate, the Epstein controversy, and the power dynamics intertwined in these cases. Our chat takes an audacious turn when we delve into the impact of colonialism on the identities and beliefs within Hispanic communities. Uncover the dangers of whitewashed historical narratives as we argue about the role of history in shaping identities. We'll also navigate the shadowy corners of the dark web and its societal implications, the bitter reality of indentured servitude, and the extent to which society chooses to overlook these issues. Finally, we unravel the portrayal of women in various cultures, drawing experiences from Native American women during early European settlement and women in the Jack the Ripper era. Brace yourselves as we embark on a thrilling journey of thought-provoking conversations. Thank you for tuning in! If you are digging what I am doing, and picking up what I'm putting down, please share the podcast on social media and with friends. Reviews are greatly appreciated. You can leave a review on Apple Podcasts, or Spotify. Thanks again!!! Follow me and find More of My Content with link below ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/andanotherthingwithdave⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Thank you to my listeners throughout the world. Now heard in 65 countries. Listener locations: 69% USA 11% Canada 6% United Kingdom  5% India 2% Germany 2% Romania 1% Russia less than 1% in 50 plus countries THANK YOU all !!! #aatwd #andanotherthing #davesmith #podcast #conspiracies #truther #rich #1% #99% #99percent #anonymous #epstein #silkroad Conspiracy Theories, Water Shortage, Gangster Activity, Pizza Gate, Epstein, V for Vendetta, Netscape Navigator, Elon Musk, Wedge Issues, Colonialism, Dark Web, Indentured Servitude, Native American Women, Jack the Ripper, Information Control, Power Dynamics, Independent Thought, Research, Whitewashed Narratives, Societal Issues, Historical Narratives --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/andanotherthingwithdave/message

Det begynner å nærme seg sesongavslutning. Og med det avslutning av et bekmørkt 2023. Det skal bli spennende å se hva dommedagsklokken blir stilt til i 2024. I 2021 og 2022 sto den på 100 sekunder til midnatt. 24. januar 2023 ble klokken stilt til 90 sekunder, hvilket er det nærmeste til midnatt og dommedag, klokken noen gang har blitt stilt til, siden dommedagsklokken ble oppfunnet i 1947 av noen atomforskere, som blant annet jobbet på The Manhattan Project.I 1947 ble klokken stilt inn på 7 minutter på midnatt. I 1995, da vi blant annet fikk Netscape Navigator og internett begynte å spre seg, var vi nærmere kvart på tolv. Etter årtusenskiftet og Al Qaidas angrep på USA i 2001, har vi beveget oss nærmere og nærmere dommedag. Og det er kanskje sånn det også føles om dagen. At det ser bekmørkt ut. Fra midten av 90-tallet, med internettets fremmarsj, ble digitale horisonter møtt med en urokkelig optimisme. Vi levde på kanten - og for så vidt også over kanten med tanke på dotcom-boblen som sprakk - men på den tiden var det som om vi levde midt i en digital renessanse, hvor teknologiens potensial var tilnærmet grenseløs. Det var en tid hvor all teknologisk utvikling ble oppfattet som en global win-win. Med internett ville mennesker kobles sammen, informasjon og kunnskap ville bli satt fri og konsekvensen ville bli en demokratisering i global skala. I etterpåklokskapens navn, ser vi nå hvordan denne teknologiske optimismen utviklet seg til noe helt annet. Ikke win-win, men lose-lose. Episoden presenteres av Epicenter - Oslos hub for digital innovasjon og et økosystem for innovative selskaper i vekst. Gå inn på epicenteroslo.com og bli medlem du også!Lenker til alt jeg har snakket om, finner du på HansPetter.info Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This time 20 years ago Valerie Plame, a CIA operative, found herself at the center of a political firestorm when her covert identity was exposed. This uncovered a complex web of deception, high-stakes politics, and blurred the lines between national security and political ambitions. It also sparked a change in career for Valerie that saw book and movie deals, speaking arrangements and ultimately a big for congress! Plus we need to talk about Chingy. Howard Baily Jr. aka 'Chingy' released his single 'Right Thurr' this week cementing himself as a modern day Mother Goose. You'll find out why as we explore this theory in intimate detail. Also we've got Coldplay in Byron Bay, Netscape Navigator gets sold for billions heralding the rise of Mozilla, Lance Armstrong wins at the ESPYs and Deal or No Deal is unleashed on Australia! Those stories and more, this week on T Minus 20!Hang with us on socials to chat more noughties nostalgia - Facebook (@tminus20) or Instagram (tminus20podcast). You can also contact us there if you want to be a part of the show.

An airhacks.fm conversation with Richard Fichtner (@richardfichtner) about: the jcon.one conference, the cinedom and thunderdome, Digital Crafts Day, 80485 Intel with ISDN router, starting with Turbo Pascal, the ISDN extension card, prehistoric and Prince of Persia, Wing Commander, starting with SUSE Linux, ISDN router and asterisks, lilo the Linux loader, geocities and myspace, Internet Cafes and resetting the computers, Netscape Composer and Netscape Navigator, Netscape Mail, teaching HTML at school, xpage is a WYSIWYG, Florian Habermann the god of programming, xdev the low code / nocode environment, xdev is Java 21 compatible, xapi the framework, moving from Swing to Vaadin, the extended persistence context and EntityManager, PersistenceContextType.EXTENDED and interactive applications, Vaadin flow and WebComponents, GWT and Vaadin, xdev the Vaadin IDE, xdev a no-code IDE, SqlEngine a custom DSL for SQL with xdev, RapidClipse and Eclipse, Eclipse performance significantly improved in recent releases Richard Fichtner on twitter: @richardfichtner

Dansion update  Scooter update Agent GPT - https://agentgpt.reworkd.ai/ Jessop Demo  RIP Rattenhund 440ml - now available in 355mL ABAC claims up - https://brewsnews.com.au/abac-quarterly-report-shows-increase-in-complaints/ - full report http://www.abac.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/ABAC-Q1-2023-Quarterly-Report-April-2023.pdf - Billsons appeal to children, Hard Fizz breaches again, “The Company did not remove the marketing material and the complaint was referred to the Queensland Liquor Authority.” Top 50 US brewery companies - https://www.brewersassociation.org/press-releases/brewers-association-releases-annual-craft-brewing-industry-production-report-and-top-50-producing-craft-brewing-companies-for-2022/ 12 questions https://www.facebook.com/groups/bossandthebrewer/permalink/990790168971364/?comment_id=990797922303922&reply_comment_id=990818185635229¬if_id=1681975868739899¬if_t=group_comment&ref=notif Whole transcript  Whoa. Very good. How does this work? Why does it happen every time? Um, well, I've got the old Logitech Brio and it's got a little app that goes with it that I can adjust the exposure, uh, and that sort of thing. I'm about to go and buy a mirrorless camera as a webcam, so I get all the bk fucking background and shit. What does that mean? Blurred BK means blurred in Japanese. That's what that camera does. Yeah. If you get like a camera with a really low F lens, it bends the light more and therefore what is you, you stay in focus and everything behind, um, becomes, um, blurred and that sort of thing, like all professional and shit. Okay. I need to get one of those thousand dollars camera. Oh. Oh. Fuck that. I'm not getting one of those. Yeah, but you're on the fucking Yeah, because you don't have anything to blur in the background, mate. You're sitting on the casting couch. So, yeah, I've got the ca, I've got the casting couch. I want you to see my, I want you to see my stuff. Have you got a beer? I do, actually. I'm gonna stick with the fucking classics tonight. Okay. I have this got the old Pop Nation rep. Oh, wow. I put that on the, yeah, the, the, I didn't think you had one of those. There you go. Oh, what, what do you mean? Did you do something? Yeah, that's a, that's a topic. Oh, is it? Yeah. Oh, sick. Yeah. I'll, there you go. Good. You must, you must know that, um, was that, was that just a, oh, I just, I just thought he, um, oh, okay. Yeah, I can see that there. Oh, well. Okay. There you go. I'm drinking a ratin one. It's in the four 40 mill, and it's apparently a traditional pilsner, but I think it's becoming a, what are they? Um, uh, not traditional pills. And I saw it on the bloody internet today. Well, we can talk about that when it comes up in the ticket. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do it. What you got? I've got a beer here. Cause after the last week's episode, um, and you suggested that you're gonna go into BWS and get a, um, free Byron Bay Fruity Beer with every purchase. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you um, Aaron went into BWS and bought something and got this for free. They've just given that shit away. Hey, that Empire Fruity Beer and everything. It's a, it's technically a sponsored beer. This has been going on for months now. They've been given that stuff away. Have you had the orange making? It's phenomenal. Yeah, I have. It's not too bad. I've nearly got this. I've nearly got this glass thing sorted out. Look at that. Look at that glass. Oh, that's so close. Wait, lemme screenshot that. So close. Show us the stoner wood logo. Oh no, we don't want that, David, because it's not a stoner wood beer in there. No, no. That would be sacrilegious, but that's not too bad. It's not too bad. I'll get there. That's good. Do you know, you know what's happened? How, how I'm getting to my glasses are becoming cleaner. That smell good? No, um, you're wiping them? No, Adam Shell, what do you do? You didn't ask which one. Oh, sorry, which one? Which, which Adam Shell, the other one. Oh, I see. I feel like we know which one now. Cause we've only really got one. Like there are still two I know. And the other one's just got back from, well, the, the one, not the other one. Yeah. Has just gotten back from Japan. So I was watering his plants while he was away. And how does that relate to the glass improvement? Oh, well, we were just, aie and I were just having a beer and. He gave me some tips on how to clean glasses. Okay. And he said, get yourself a dish wand and some tan dish washing liquid from Aldi. Okay. A dish wand. So yeah, the, you know, the wand that's got, you fill it up with the detergent and you do that and you know, it's like, it's got a scour on that on the end and you can just shove it all the way down the glass. Yeah. A dedicated beer glass one though, right? You don't use well, yeah. Well the thing is, I went to bloody alley, but, and got tan obviously, because that's what they do, but there was no Dish ones there. So this was actually cleaned with like, just a clean chucks and, um, rinse with hot water. And I'm nearly there. I'm nearly there. Etsy, you'd be very proud. I have a, I have a separate thing that doesn't have detergent in it, but it's just a, you know, like a long glass, clean of, you know, brush. Is it, is it for glasses or do you use it for other stuff? I don't use it for anything else. I only use it for, for glasses. Right. Yeah. And I mean, look at this. Look at the head on this. That looks sensational. The results. I'm getting a photo of that. Hang on. Wait. Lemme get this in the photo. Get a photo. Hang on. Hang on. Hang. Oh my God. Okay. Let's have a look here. Oh, wait, I can only see myself. Hang on a second. Oh no. Got a pin. Okay, go. Oh, you look amazing. Oh, good. Um, so shout out to all the people that messaged me after last week's episode with Concreting advice. That was, that was super useful. Oh, good. Yeah. Really useful to know how to concrete something after I've already done it and moved on to the next job. Mm-hmm. Apparently you can, I, apparently I could have just dug a hole where the post was, build the hole up with water, and then just poured the rabbit set in there and you're fucking done. You don't even need to mix it. No. That's courtesy of Matt from Facebook. Thanks for that advice. Really? Yeah. So they, that was ing advice. That was Ting advice. My ing advice was terrible. Well, it was educational. I learned something because Yeah. I, I at least remember that it was concrete that he suggested not cement. Not cement. Did you go fix it? Fuck, no. I moved onto the next thing. You know what I did today, right? So Right when I, when I got this house going right, I, I was tossing up about what trees I should put out the front. And I really wanted something like, my house is like, it's like a Minecraft house. It's real brutal from the front. Yep. Wood and concrete, like, um, and I wanted something to soen that. So I've found this tree called a pink trumpet tree, whereas living in Varsity Lakes, you saw them everywhere. You see them everywhere. They're like a, they're not like a especially fancy tree. If you see a tree with like pink leaves, it's probably one of those. Yes. Um, and have my heart set on this. So like, for like six months, every time I saw one, I'm like, oh, there's a pink trumpet tree. Like, it was a big thing. So anyway, when I got the house, I finally bought one, went out to the nursery of Mount Tambourine. I bought an established one. It cost me like, I can't remember how much, maybe a thousand bucks, maybe more, I don't even know. Was like an establish tree? Yes. Got delivered and it's like, it was 150 liter, um, pot. So it's, it's big. It's like, it's like the size of a, a barrel, basically a half a barrel. Mm-hmm. Um, so I got delivered in the, in the plastic pot thing, dug a hole, chucked it in there. Mm-hmm. And then realized that you can't put in there with the plastic on cuz it's so heavy. You can't get the fucking plastic on. By the way, I didn't read instructions. Okay. I just bit of a pa, bit of a theme going on here and there. I'll, I'll get to. So I put it in there and then when it was in, when it was in there, I realized, fuck, I need to cut the plastic off. So I've got my arm under there trying to cut the plastic off. Finally got it in there. The roots are going everywhere. Dirt's going everywhere. It's a complete disaster. I put it in, it's not straight, and I'm like, fuck it. That'll do, because it'll probably straighten up. I don't know how trees work. Anyway, I've been staring at it every day for like six months. Okay. At one point I was like, I've gotta straighten this fucking tree because it's ridiculous. It goes like that leaning tower side and push it around. Tried to straighten it. That didn't help. So the tree was it again? Pink trumpet tree. They're really pink. Trumpet tree. If you, if you've ever been to Sanctuary Cove on the Gold Coast, they've got like really full established ones. They're huge. They look like they're looking up what it looks like. Pink trumpet tree. Here we go. A tab Taboo Rose. That's it. That's the one. Oh yeah, they look sick. Well, mine didn't look like that. This one, the one I see on the internet leaning. Oh, okay. Leaning. That could be my one. Does it have any leaves or, or, uh, flowers on it. Pink flowers. Pink flowers mate. And a cop car under it. Oh, it could be mine. Alright. So anyway, anyway, so I had this tree, the leaves started dying. I, I put in, in the Facebook group about landscaping. I'm like, what did I do about this tree? Didn't get anything useful. Eventually I'm like, fuck this tree. I don't like it. It's leaning. The leaves are dying. It's not working. So I ordered cuz I was always tossing up between that and Fran pan tree because Fran like Fran trees, I remember from when I was a kid. They're everywhere around here. They're pretty, they smell and they grow fast and they're pretty hardy fast. They, you can replant them and they're put in your ear when you put one in your ear and all, all those sort of things. I like doing that. Yeah. And when I knocked this house down, I had two amazing grand pan. That got destroyed when the house got knocked down, which I was really bummed about. I wanted to move one of them, but it's too hard. And anyway, so I'm like, fuck it, I'm gonna replace this tree with a fringe APA tree and I'm not gonna make the same mistake. So I ordered the fringe APA tree, and today the guy's like, it's coming. Um, you might need a couple of guys to lift it cuz this is a 200 liter one, which is even bigger. Yes. So it's probably like a 300 liter barrel, like half of that. Right. Um, so this thing, this thing was fucking huge. And it's a two, it's a two and a half meter tree. How do you lift this by yourself? Well, I'll get to that. So she rung me up and she said, all, all right. Um, get some neighbors around cause you need like four or five people to lift this thing. Okay. Like this, this, I can't do that. I'm just here. I'm here by myself. There's no one, no one's gonna help me with it. So this guy rocks up by himself with his massive tree. And wait, before then, I'm like, I've gotta get rid of the other tree first. So I dug the other tree out, I chopped the whole thing up, put it in my willie bin. So my, so my willy bin has this entire tree in it, which was about, it was like a two meter tree. So chopped all that up. Got it. In the willy bin. I'll mate rocks up with this gigantic tree and then we drag it onto the back of the truck and he is got a lift thing to get it to the ground, which is good. And then we drag it up to the hole because I only paid to get it delivered to the curb, but it's out the front of the house. I'm like, if I don't get him to do it now, I'm not gonna even be able to get it in. Okay. I want him to drag it there. And I left it right on the side of the hole. And then I, I thought about the podcast and thought what I should do is watch a video on instructions. Right. On how to plan the trees. So I did that. Yes. And the instructions basically said you take it out of the plastic thing first. Right. And you sit it there in the roots and then you kind of, you know, trim roots if necessary and kind of maneuver into positions. Yes. That kinda thing. Yep. I didn't do that though. Did you? Same thing. I just did the same thing that I did last time, which is I got it close to the edge and then I dragged it in and dumped it in the hole again. Hang on a second. So you actually went and got instruction on how to do something on YouTube? I did. And then you completely ignored it. I, I did. I in the moment, yes, I did ignore it. Yes. Out of expediency, you just wanted to get the job done or impatience, I think. And also like, I just had it so close to the edge and I cut a few little bits of it. I literally did, I don't know, like it just, I just did exactly the same thing that I did last time. I don't even know why I just made a mistake. So now the tree is in the bloody hole with plastic all over it. The other trees in the wheelie bin. This tree is in the hole with plastic all over. The roots are already starting to fall apart because I'd like smudged it in there and then I start cutting the plastic off and I'm trying to rip it out and I calm, my back's fucked and I managed to get under it. Finally rip the thing out. The roots are gone everywhere. I'd push it up and it's like wobbling. It doesn't even stand up. So I've got, I pull all the stakes out of the other parts of the garden that were holding my other trees up to put around this tree to hold this tree up. And I've only got little bits of string so I get it all up like reasonably in line. And the other thing that the video said was like that every tree has like a nice angle to look at it from. Mm-hmm. Like a face. Sure. So I was like, I need to line up this angle facing the road so that when you look at the house, you've got a nice Yep. Tree. Yeah. But then when I looked at it, all the spinning and shit, it's like facing me and it looks pretty average from the street. Okay. Anyway, I finally got it up there and I got it vertical, filled it in, and then I'm just sitting there, my back's fucked. I'm like, this, I've just cut. Totally fucked this whole thing up. Um, but I was happy it was in there. And then some lady walks past and she like stopped. She had her dog and she looks up at the tree. She goes, I don't like these trees. They put their leaves everywhere, all over the ground after you put in all that effort. Oh my God. Did you tell her to get stuffed? My blood started to boil. Yeah. God, I blame you. And I, and I don't, and I don't believe in violence against women or any person for that matter. Yes, yes. So I murdered her dog. It was one of those fluffy white ones. It was. All right. No, no harm done. All right. That's my dancing update. How's the scooter going? The scooters got terrible. Guess what I've gotta do on the weekend? I buy another, no, I'm gonna buy a motorbike. Oh, for fuck sake. What do you mean? You've already got a motorbike? Yeah, I've gotta buy another one. Why? Um, cause I've been looking at, uh, just cause of the motorbike that I've got, right? The, the, the CB 900 Hornet, which I absolutely love to ride. And I've had it since 2015. Right? And, um, it's 2002. It's not getting, it's nothing wrong with this not getting, like, it's rough around the edges, but it's super reliable and I can work on it and all that sort of thing. Uh, years ago when I was living in Geelong, you know, back in 10, 10 years ago, I had a, I think it was a 2002 or 2004 Honda VFR 800. So it's a v4, right? Yeah. And just sounded so fucking beautiful. Like it's half a V eight mate, so just, it's a motorbike that sounded like that. And um, and just over the last few months I've just sort of been started looking at 'em again on like Facebook oh nine Marketplace and stuff like that. That's where it all fucking starts. Exactly. This Facebook marketplace has been the bane of my existence in the last fucking, so bad 12 months. It's fucked. I've just spent so much money on, it's just, just keeping the economy going anyway, so I know exactly what under VFR 800 I want, I want the last of the sixth. Sixth generation. Sixth generation? I think so. Um, wait, so this is the bike you used to have? Yeah, I had a 2002. Okay. Um, but, um, um, but I, but they sort of didn't really change the, they sort of changed the shape in 2001 and they didn't change it again until 2014. Why do you, why did you get rid of that? To get the current bike bought? The Commodore trade it in for the Commodore. Oh, you got, oh, okay. And then you went without a bike for a while. For, for about three years and that sort of thing. So, uh, sorry, is it sixth generation? Yeah, sixth generation Honda bfr 800 and, um, 2013. So it's the last of the good ones because the, the, the seventh generation was just that, not that great. Sorry. The eighth generation just wasn't that, that fucking, it was just boring. Right. And so vfr, what is it? VFR 800. VFR 800. Do you wanna pull up a photo? Yeah. Um, might be able to pull up your Facebook. Um, pull up a photo, mate. Oh, that's sick. That's like a, uh, like a sports kind bike. Sports touring bike. Yeah, exactly. Oh yeah, yeah. Oh, he's the one that I want, here's the one that I want and lemme share my screen. Oh. Need to let me share a screen mate. Good. Can I go? Can I go? You can go like that is exactly what I want. Handicap red is is the beer, is the vtr. The half baring Vtr is the thousand CCV twin. Yeah. And it's like a half bear sort of, but it looks similar to that, doesn't it? Oh, that's more upright. Yeah, they little. They do. Yeah. But this is, but that, that's, that's the bike that I'm looking at at going and buying. So basically handy up this bike that I've found, it's up in Nua that I'm gonna have it dry right up there on Saturday. Handy Apple, red gold rim, gold rims, and a stain tune exhaust system on it. And it's just, I saw it pop up on Buddy Facebook and it was, And it was a good, really sharp price and the pays weren't too bad on it and that sort of thing. And it's like being sold by a dealer, which I don't know if that's a good thing or not a good thing. Um, but that, look at it, it's fucking beautiful. Yeah, that's pretty sick. And so the, I, so when I own mine, um, uh, the, the last one that I owned, I really enjoyed riding it. It just handled so well, you know, it was just so comfortable to ride. And I actually rode it from, well, I tried to ride it from Melbourne or Geelong when I was in Geelong, up to Queensland for a holidays in 2011. And the old ones, the pre 2000 eights actually had a problem where the regulator rectifier the thing that that charges the battery, not the generator of the stator, but the, the regulator rectifier would burn, would burn out the stator. So I was riding, I was just outside 50 Ks outside of Kuni Bar brand going up the new highway. And it just clapped out. Oh. And died. Had to get towed to Kobrand. Um, and this was right when we had that big cyclone that just hummed, um, you know, Gunda windy and all that sort of stuff, right? Yes. And I was heading to my brother's place. And he lives in Anor. Dan thought. Yes. And, and, um, and so he, he drove, he jumped in his ute, drove six hours, picked me in the bike up. I drove the six hours back, and we were two kilometers away from, um, his house. And the, the, the New England Highway had flooded and we couldn't get home. Oh no. Yeah. It was the last bridge. It was the last bridge that we had to cross before his place. And it was flooded. Oh my God. And he had his full drive and he was, we looked at it, we, uh, should we do it? Uh, and he said, no, no. We'll just, he called up a friend who was on that side of the creek. And, um, and, and so we went round to the friend's place and we just smashed whiskey. Like fucking, absolutely. Just, just pounding. Just, just whiskey rocks, right? Oh yeah. That's what my brother likes to do. And, um, and so, um, we've got, um, we stayed a couple of hours and then we'd heard that the, that the, um, um, that the creek, the creek had subsided a little bit. And so, um, we just changed up to the ute and went, and the creek had subsided and the bridge would become visible again. And we're so lucky we didn't attempt to cross the creek because half the road that we were gonna drive across had literally washed out and we would've, oh no. Gone in and fucked Ute and the bike so that the moral of that story is if it's flooded, forget it. And that is for reel. I actually did, I actually did cross one of those little rivers in Dan Thorpe that was flooded, but it was, it was pr reasonably obvious that it wasn't too bad, although I don't fucking have a clue what I'm doing, but it was kind of like, you could sort of tell when it was high and when it was low and it was kind of getting closer. Yeah. But yeah, it happens all the time in it, like every time. Yeah. Yeah. Ex. Yeah, exactly. So, um, so yeah. But anyway, it turns out that was a known problem with that year model, but this 2013 or 2008 onwards doesn't have this problem. And I reluctantly sold the bike in, you know, or traded it in actually on, on the Commod in 2013. So I didn't really have much of a choice because I was, I, I was a, I just just became an owner of a brewing company that didn't make any beer. Yeah. I, my old, my old 1991 Toyota Camry, I crashed. And, um, on, on the way into Meredith Music Festival, just fucking, just, I was fucking just driving, driving down the road into the Meredith Music Festival. The fucking sunflowers were out. It was a beautiful day, and I'm just pumped that I'm, you know, going to go to music. Mar Meredith Music Festival, have a amazing time and that sort of thing. And I'm like, ah, this is amazing. And look in front of me. Like, fuck. Cause the cars had all stopped and I, and I smashed into the car, um, in front of me and, and then a car smashed into me, behind me. Oh, the car in front was one of the people that we were convoying into camp with, and the car behind was my ex-girlfriend, uh, Erica. And, um, and so she crashed into me and she was in a borrowed car because she crashed her car like the week prior. It was just a complete and utter cluster fuck. And so I wound up with my, my Camry was still drivable, her borrowed car was not. And um, uh, and so I had this dodgy fucking, couldn't open the boot, couldn't open the bonnet Toyota Camry that I had to get rid of. So I just sold it to the records for 250 bucks. And I had to buy a new car. And I didn't have any money, but all I had was the VFR and I had to trade it in to buy a car. Oh, okay. So that's how I have, uh, what's the price differential between your bike and that? Like, would, are you talking lots of money or Probably not. Not a huge amount. My, you mean my current bike? Yeah. Oh, my current bike's. A 2002, probably worth 1500 bucks. Now. Don't get much for it. No, no, I don't expect to get more than 500,000 bucks for it. I'll, I'll see if I can trade it. Um, but this thing's like five grand, so it's a bloody good price too. Ah, that's pretty good. Yeah. Crazy. I've gotten so cheap. It's only 80,000 Ks for a 2013. That's not too bad. And hopefully it's been looked after. So that's my job as I'm riding up to new sale on Saturday morning to go have a look at this bike. Nice. Post some pics. Yeah, maybe I'll get it. Maybe I won't. Either way I'll get a nice ride out of it so it looks good. Yeah. Um, well the thing is, what I wanna do is, um, you know, go and do some more motor camping and that sort of thing, and that's kind of the ideal bike for it because you can get some pans for it and a, and a rear rear sack for it. You know, Chuck, your, your, your tent and your, and your, and your sleeping bag and. Just go, you know? Yeah, just go, go. It looks like, it looks like a, looks sick, but it looks like it would be reasonably comfortable to ride, like it looks a little bit more upright at the front. Like you're not gonna be like, it is. Yeah. It's, it's a call, a sports tour, so it's got the fairing, but it's meant for doing long distances and, and, and lot and all that sort of thing, so yeah. See what happens. Field trips. Yeah, absolutely. So, right. Can I, sh can I try and demo my app, Voya? Yeah. How you going? Can you share a screen with it or something? I, I think I can, I, I haven't tested this though, so if I can't then then I can't. Okay. iPhone. I, here we go. iPhone, iPad. Let's see what happens here. You to tell me what you can say. Oh. Oh, I can see your phone. It's your phone. I'm sick. Okay. Alright. Um, so, alright, well set expectations first. It's an MVP so it's not super. How many fucking apps have you got? All kinds of shit. Right. So Bill, chap, G gb, gbt, share feedback. Yep. Yep. Start testing. Okay. So this is the, this is like the homepage. Um, yep. So let's think of something, um, uh, well on, uh, what was it? G, G, uh, C, cb CB 900. F. CB B for Barry. Ah, cb. Cb. Alright. Uh, 2002 is chat. Gbt gonna write this. 2002. So I'll, I'll put, um, change. Okay. So I'll, so, so pardon p you can either start it from scratch, which will just be blank. Yeah. Yes. Or use AI to create the process for. So that like editor there that you can see is just like, it's just like a note or like a document generating. Yes, yes. That's a misspelling. So what's happening now, so this is to, this is creating content forming. So this, this content here that's coming back here is whatever open AI is given me. So it may be right, it may be wrong. Um, well allow the oil drone, remove the oil filter. Four quarts of oil. That's perfect. Yeah, it takes exactly four liters of oil. Nice. Okay. Okay. So, um, and then you can finalize it or you can do like a multi-page. So I could do what's a multi-page? I'll do that. So I'll do the, I'll do oil and then I'll do, um, so that's step one oil. And then I'll do another one for change air filter. So in, in the editor here, I can just write this out or I can Yes. Use that button to do it here. So what was it? 2002? 2002. Honda CB 900 F. Right. So this, so this is like, you either create the whole thing with AI or this is just like, if you wanna do a bit of text yourself or, and have a bit using OpenAI, you can add in the piece. Yes. So you'd look at that, you'd review it. Yeah. This is, this is chat. It's pretty good. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. I'm not responsible for it, but it's uh No, that's fine. Gives you start Of course. And so you go and insert it. Yeah. So you put in there and then you can edit it if you want. Like, if it's something in there that you don't like or whatever. Um, so finalize, yes. So there it is. There in amongst the SOPs. Mm-hmm. And now what you can do is go, we can add employees in, but I'll, I'll, um, I think I've got, I've got em here. I've got myself. Oh, actually don't have myself. Do I have myself? I don't know if I've got myself as an employee. I'll put you in. Okay. Heo, HEO Henderson. That'll do. What's your email? I'm not gonna put it on the fucking screen or on the podcast. Then I'll do my email. That's not my email down to it is not my email. Ok. But I haven't built all the features to, um, stop you from adding bullshit emails. So yeah. Alright. So what do here as you go, like assign sap? Yes. So changing oil, sign that to Henderson and what does the signing it do? So if I log in, so now I've got this user's area, right? So I've got you there and you can see whether it, I can see that you've got an s p assigned to you, but you haven't completed it. Yes. So if I log in as you, I'll have to remember the email I use or is it down to. So I'll log in as the user we just created. Yes, yes, yes. So see, when I log in, I've got the, I've got the s a P there waiting for me, and it's got a little exclamation point saying that I need to complete it. Mm-hmm. So then you go here and then it'll have, so that's the s a P there. I can just look at it. Yes, read it. I can swipe to the next page. Yep. How do you put pictures in complete? In the editor. Oh, you can put pictures in there. Yeah. And then that's complete. And videos as well gone away. So I'm logged in with Google. Oh, I'm not logged in with Google. Oh, that's a different account. Anyway. If I logged in with, oh, actually I think I know the account. Hang on, let me, let me log in. Not Dan too. Just regular Dan. Yeah, that is my email address, so if anyone sees that, feel free to email me. Yeah, that's fine. We all know that, especially if you want to be to test the app cuz I'm looking for people to test it. There you go. So there you go. Now it's got you as completed. Okay. And so what if I'm an employee, not Dan too, and I want to follow that s o p or something like that? Um, what do you mean? So basically it just brings it up and you just follow it and that sort of thing? Yeah. Yeah. Well you could, you can, you can do a couple of things. You can do, um, it just brings it up and you just read it through. Or if you want to do it as an actual check box that you like, want to check off the things. Yes, you can change this from bullet points. Yes, to check boxes. Ah, so if you change it to check boxes, I'll update it and then, um, I won't log in again. Oh, you can go and tap the thing. Oh, this is good. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. You, you have to check them in order to Yes. Be allowed to complete the, so p like it. Yeah. So that's all I got. So this is, I think it's heading in the right direction. Who coded that? My developer from up, from Upwork. Yeah. Right. And this is Punch, this is on React. You punch much money in that or, um, Android and iPhone. But what, why is it, why is it work on an Android and iPhone? It uses this React native thing, which is like a, which is like a framework for building kind of like mobile agnostic or I guess os agnostic, like OS agnostic native mobile. Yeah, so it's like, it's, it's a, it's a native app, but it'll be native app on Android. And, um, I'll also have like a web app for, you know, because if you, I, I think a lot of people will still use on the computer and we will wanna actually type. But yes, once you can use the AI to generate a lot of content, you'd be surprised how much you can actually create on the phone. Yes. That's pretty nifty, mate. I think that's got some potential. So what's the plan next with it? Well, I wanna, I want to give it to anyone who wants to play with it and then just see what they do, pretty much. Mm-hmm. And then hopefully get some indications that people want to use it. I think with the, with the, I've got a bunch of email addresses of people who did my survey and stuff, so I'll send out to them and be like, do you wanna use it? See what happens if I get feedback back saying it's cool, but I'm not gonna use. Yep. Then cool. Probably not great, but if it's people start using it or people are like, I would use it if I, if you had this feature, then I'm, I'll probably keep building it. Yep. Um, yeah. Fantastic mate. Yeah. What do you think, well, what are your thoughts when you see it? I think it's got a lot of potential, mate. It's like early, early days for it, but, you know, you can go in, you can get the AI to, to sort of create a framework for the, so p get someone else to validate it. I, I can see some future sort of requirements around things like version control and stuff like that. That's a later issue. Yeah. Um, makes writing SOPs very easy, at least getting 80% of the way there. And that's the biggest challenge that I face when I work with my clients is they lack the time to write SRPs. Yeah. It's very common problem. Yeah. And so if you can get most of the way there with ai. Well then you're sort of, you're doing okay, you know? Yeah, I guess, I guess the, the, um, the thing is like the, you can get most of the way there with AI anyway because you can just use chat g p T to do that. Yes. Yeah. So I guess the question's gonna be is that G P T three or four three? Because I don't have a API access to four. Right. Um, like I think the question with a lot of these apps that use AI is like, is chat g P t gonna get so good and so ubiquitous that people are just gonna use that for everything? And do they even need any other apps? Yeah. I think it's going to evolve over time and with the plugins like, oh G P T four, that's gonna be really interesting. Yeah. I think getting it to, um, getting um, G P T four with the plugin so I can access the internet in real time. That's pretty interesting. Have you, have you seen that? Seen that I found, what's that? Oh, I was gonna say, have you seen that agent G P T thing? No, what's that for you? Does what? I'll post it in the notes. I have to find the address. It, it's, it's like a, it's called, it's not that. There's a few of 'em. It's called like Agent G P T or some shit like that. Yeah. And it's, what does it do? It's like a, it's like chat G B t, except that it operates without you and creates tasks for itself. So. Oh shit. What? It's pretty wild. I, I haven't been able to get it to do anything useful for me, but yeah, the idea, do you know what I, you know, you know that the weird thing that I saw, I saw, I watched this video on YouTube about how you can get, um, how you can get chat G B T to write prompts for chat. G B T. Yes. Yep. What the fuck? Yes. Yeah. It's crazy. It's mind blowing, you know, some of the stuff you can do with it. Do you know the thing that's really disappointing at the same time, right? Uh, as, as sort of chat g p t is becoming this amazing sort of, you know, um, thing you just talk to naturally. Right. And do you know what's gone backwards is I've got a Google Home. I don't know if you have a Google Home. Yeah, I've got Alexa. Alexa, yeah. And it's getting worse a hundred percent. It's shit. Yeah. Like, like I used to be able to say to it, turn on the living room lights and turn on the bedroom lights and it would turn on both the lights, but now it won't even, it won't do that. I have to ask it separately. It's like it's taking a fucking step backwards. Interesting. Google is gonna get the first time are under serious threat. Oh yeah. They're gonna get done. Yeah. And probably Amazon as well, to be fair. Microsoft is back baby. A hundred percent. Who would've predicted? I would've never predicted that. Cuz I have never liked Microsoft. But they're back. Yeah. My, um, my whole IT crew was built around, you know, Microsoft technology and stuff like that, and it's like, fuck yeah. They, they lost it, you know, they lost the, the, the, the, you know, the server market and all that sort of stuff to and Gmail and they look, the biggest mistake was the missing the phone. That was the big one. Yeah. The phone thing. Yeah, exactly. But they come back with the, no, actually the, the biggest mistake was back in 1994 when they built, was when Windows 95 came out and I went to the launch of Windows 95 in late 1994. Yeah. And everyone was going, um, was like, I remember the launch of Windows 95, and the really cool thing was seeing the little paper fly outta the folder when you copied a file and stuff like that. Mm-hmm. And everyone goes, Ooh. And then like, and then, and then, oh, we've got this thing called M S N. And so they basically built their own internet. Yeah. And, and it was built into Windows 95 and it locked. And I remember going to the Microsoft Conference, I think it was 96 9 19 96, like they literally the following year. And they were just like, internet, internet, internet. Cause they knew that they'd fucked up and they were just like, we have to do internet. And that was where it all sort of took off. And there an internet explorer became a thing and all that sort of stuff. And you know, and that's, that's kind of what, what, what sort of happened, you know, they make these decisions, they get on the back foot. They, they, they take a step back in technology. And I think that's what Google is about to experience is, is going to be behind the eight ball. And it could last a decade, you know. You know, the other thing, the other thing Windows fucked up was Skype. Like, can you, yeah. Even imagine like, Skype was so popular, it was like the only tour people used. For what exactly what we're doing right now for messaging people. Like before WhatsApp? Yes. Before Zoom, before iMessage, before Messenger, before all that shit. Yes. Skype did all of the shit. All that. All those things. Yes. And now it's just nothing. Yes. How the fuck did that happen? I don't know. Crazy. No, it's crazy. And just, just these, these, um, you know, tech companies just buy things to either just destroy them or, or, you know, park them and, and they buy these, these, these technologies. And, but do Windows even have a messaging? Like, like what do you use if you are a Windows guy, you just use Android? What do you to message people? Oh, uh, when? Well, oh, I don't know. Well, I mean, Skype was a thing. What's your preferred, like, you messaged me on, on Messenger, but like, what's your preferred like, messaging thing to message your friends? Oh, now? Yeah. Now, It would be probably, uh, mixed between, um, messenger and WhatsApp. Yeah, WhatsApp. See, I mean, why don't you, yeah, I mean that's, Skype did all of that. Yes. Crazy. Um, apparently, apparently Samsung are considering, and it could be just jockeying for a better deal, but apparently they're considering swapping from Google to Microsoft as a default search engine on their phones. Wow. And that wouldn't surprise me if, if Bing is getting, um, you know, Bing was always played second fiddle to, to Google for search, but Oh yeah. People aren't in, in 12 to two years time. People aren't gonna be searching anymore. I think for some things you will, I was thinking about today, cuz for some things I still use Google a little bit because it gives you, it gives you those instant answers for UpToDate things and chat. G Chat g p t gives you like content, it gives you like rich content. Lots of details on stuff, but like for simple things like my tree, I wanted advice on the tree. Google does a pretty good job of giving you that real quick. Yes. Um, I mean Bing now does, oh, I just pulled up Bing. And it says you can ask introducing New bi, new Bing prior. Okay, let's try it. Oh, I need to throw, oh shit. The 10 billion catch p t deal. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, there, um, uh, how do I change the oil on a 2002 on CB 900 or so? Are they doing what? Where did you click on them? Do you have this Edge browser? Just went to Bing, click on Bing? No, no. I mean, still in Chrome. Just went to bingle bing bing.com today you Yeah. But you, but you click introducing New Bing. Yeah. Oh, so you did, you are actually just searching the normal, in the normal section. But then it does this thing on the side where it pulls up some AI and shit. Hmm. Interesting. Not quite. Not quite there. I'm just gonna go back to my picture movie. Sorry. I see, I see, I see, I see. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. No, that, yeah, that's not the same thing. That's like, that's, that's just normal search. Yeah. Yeah. But let me, no, no, no. But I think if you go to, if you click Learn more. Yeah. Here we go. bing.com. Yes. I Sure. I can see it is three. Three. Share. Share your screen. So I just click thing, I need to throw a dinner and it does this thing over the side here and everything. Oh, I see. And then it's got, let's chat. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, I was sort of wondering, oh, you can only do conversational search in Microsoft Edge. Wow. Ah, that's the issue. That's smart. Is it? Why do they care so much about who, what browser are you using? Uh, it's the, it's the internet. Yeah. Interesting. It's like Netscape Navigator. Internet Explorer killed it. Internet Explorer was great. I was a fan. Oh. It was pretty fucking insecure. I don't care about that. I don't mean insecure as in it had trust issues or anything like that, but insecure as in it wasn't very secure. No. Microsoft stuff is secure and hacked all the time. Yeah. Microsoft sucks. Yeah. That's what kept me employed. Yeah. No, that's good. No, they're doing well. Good on them. Hey, I wanna ask you another entrepreneurial question. Yeah. Are you, you still mates with Tuckie? Uh, I, I know him. I, I, I wouldn't say I'm mates with him. I'm, I've met him once in my life. Yeah. Yeah. What do you think of him? He seems great. Yeah. I, I'm, I'm like online friends with him. Yeah. He seems great. Yeah. Yeah. Why? Uh, I'm about to, I'm thinking about doing his next Level program cause I did his first, the first one in 2020 and that's kind of the basis of Rockstar and I'm thinking about doing his next program. It's very expensive though. Mm-hmm. Very expensive. I've never done any of, of, of his courses or anything. His content seems good. He seems like a good guy, but I, I, yeah. I've never done any of his content. I will say though. You are, um, I was, cuz I've tried to put together a thing for tonight's show and it didn't work, which I'll do next week using that script app. Yes. But I didn't realize you had the, the voice thing already. So I went to your YouTube and I used an app. Get your audio from one of your videos because you need 30 minutes of video to come up with digitized voice. Yes. Your YouTube's fucking awesome. Yeah, thanks man. I need to put some more work into it. That's one of the reasons for signing up with Darkie is to get better content. I actually had a chat with Adie about it last week as well, because, you know, whenever, uh, actually there's a couple of really interesting things happened on that this afternoon. Cause I was like, um, um, I mean, you, you're in craft beer professionals on Facebook Aren. Yeah. Yeah. So there was a guy who, they did, they had a session from this guy called, uh, called a, his, this YouTube channel called Adam Makes Bid Year. And I'd had his CVP thing just added to my watch later and I actually watched it this afternoon finally, three weeks later. And he's very interesting. So he, he's, he's like a content creator that sort of does. He's, he, I actually wanna meet him cause he's very fascinating guy, right? Because he's a teacher as well, or ex-teacher. Mm-hmm. And he's a, he's been a brewer for about 12 years and he does YouTube videos of stuff that he does in the brewery and how he makes beer and all that sort of stuff. Yeah. And then he does like live streams. I'm like, fuck, I wanted to do that. And so I watched his presentation, his CBP presentation, and he mentioned his Instagram and I've just followed him on Instagram and he's just written me back an Instagram message going, oh man, you're the reason I started my YouTube channel. Oh, no way. So, um, you could do lots on, so, okay, so your channel, do you, is that like, is that like old videos I was looking at there or are they like, oh, there's heap. So I, I released four in January and um, I did three part series on yeast propagator, which fucking blew up the internet because people think you can't propagate yeast and plastic. And um, and then I did one about dissolved oxygen and stuff like that. And, you know, I remember when I had come around to yours in like fucking 2017 or 2018 or something like that. Shot, shot down at HQ and yeah. And Kazi was in it and all that sort of thing. And, and um, uh, and it, over the years, like I've really neglected the YouTube channel and it's just such a great way to build trust with potential clients and that sort of thing. And I enjoyed doing it, but it's really hard to do because if you wanna make a 10 minute YouTube video, the amount of work you've gotta put in to write, um, shoot, edit, and publish. Yeah, that's a lot of work. It's a full-time job, I think if you to to be a content creator. Absolutely. Yeah. Um, but you can actually really that 10-minute YouTube video then just have a, a video like, There must be a huge opportunity in like TikTok and Instagram reels and like short form videos, correct? Yeah. And so one of the things I learned from, from this guy Adam, makes beer today, was like, um, he, he said, well, what I do is I'm just very natural. I do, I shoot some stuff in the, in the um, uh, in the, um, in the brewery. And then I'd do a live stream once a month where I just do a q and a and people just ask questions. Sometimes you get home brewers, sometimes you get professional brewers and then just chop out the video from that and share. And what he does, he chops out the bit. But the thing is, mate, is that I've got, and three and a half years of back catalog live coaching call content that's all recorded and can be repurposed and ready to go. And I'm thinking about are they one that that's, that's one to many. That's not like one-on-one is it? It's one to many, but it's basically people asking questions and me giving an answer off the cuff. I'm thinking you can pay someone to just rip all that out and turn it into Correct. Yes, yes. Yeah, exactly. So, and I've got like easily a hundred, hundred 50 hours of content there. And do you have like a path, like a, cuz you said on the o podcast we did the other day, you made like a fair bit of money out of the the um, ye propagator one. Did you, did you Yeah, look, it's um, you know, it the, the prop. Sorry, but actually I just remembered that wasn't a podcast, that was a chat after. Yeah, it was like the, the yeast propagator video series. It was actually something I kind of was interested in and I just went and released those three videos, um, you know, to make a Ye cuz no one had ever, cuz no one had created it. And I was like, fuck, you can just go and create a yeast propagator and save money on yeast and make better beer and stuff like that. And it was just something I was genuinely interested in. And I think that that sort of content is. I feel better about it because with professional brewers, they can really act like fucking home brewers sometimes. Mm-hmm. You come up with an I idea and, and you know, like the, the amount of hate that is propagated series came up with, or, or you know, generated people just going, oh, you can't propagate him plastic and ah, this won't work. That's fine. You have to skin, that's fine. Yeah. It just didn't bother me. I've spoken about that before and it's like, um, but the thing is right, is that there were so many more people who just went, fuck, this is really good. Oh, you've got a coaching program. Oh, we'll join that. And it's, yeah. No, that was, that was the reason I, a question cuz if you've got like a, if you like know you've got a path to create a lot more content and you've got a good path to monetize that, I feel like you're like 99% there to just doing Yes. That, like you, I'm definitely 99% there. Yeah. Yeah. And it's been really interesting, you know, sort of, um, you know, over the last few weeks, uh, like, you know, you always have that imposter syndrome thing happening as well, particularly with social media. I don't know if you have it or anything like that. Everyone's got it. I definitely did. Yes. And, um, and so, you know, if you follow, you know, me on Instagram, you'll probably notice over the last few weeks I've been sort of posting more stories and stuff like that. And um, and that's just me basically building my confidence. Yeah. Um, uh, and I know that sounds weird, a lot of people are gonna go fucking what you're on social media all the time. It's like I just happen to be in the places where people happen to be looking. I don't tend to be on social media. It's a different fucking thing. And, um, and so yeah, like, oh, I need to roll this, but I, VED, Heen. Fuck you're getting after it, aren't you? Nice? Yeah. Well I'm on the traditional thing. Do I roll this? Am I supposed to roll this? Give it a go. See what happens. I'm rolling it. It's not a Cooper's, but here we are. Fuck. Go everywhere. Oh shit. Oh shit. I'm good. Shame you stopped talking cuz you're on a roll. Um, sorry. And so, but no, the thing is, is that like, you know, all that, all that stuff that I've been posting on Instagram, you know, over the last sort of few weeks and that sort of thing is, is really about sort of me, um, you know, building my confidence, sharing a living kit of what goes on in my life. Cause I'm pretty protective what goes on in my personal life and that sort of thing. And um, um, and it's just for no reason. You know, I ride my fucking push bike or I go for a fucking hike or something like that. It's whatever, you know. Hmm. But I do stuff outside of beer and I think that's what people need to know is that I do things outside of beer. Yeah. Ride my motorbike, you know, do, do dumb shit. And I sink a bit of piss. Dude, you should go full influencer mode. Like it's a, it's a fucking no-brainer. Yeah. I wish I knew how Well, you do know how you're, you're literally doing it already. The, the only, the only thing you need to do more of is more short form video. Like just do short. Yeah. I think, and, and to be fair, you know, I think that's probably what's gonna happen next is needing to go full, full influencer mode because, um, um, because I'm just enjoy sharing information about, you know, brewing and stuff like that. And, um, you've got as much knowledge as anyone. You've got as good a networks as anyone you, you've proven you can do all the content and you can monetize it at the back end. Yeah. You've got it all covered. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Um, um, so yeah, watch out for that. Fuck yeah. Um, what have you got there? I've got a pulse. Oh, okay. I haven't seen this one. Any good about to find out? Well actually I've had it before. Yeah, it's good. It's tasty. That's the, oh, sorry, we didn't need to say for the audio only people. That's the black hops. Tinney, neer. Give us a look at it. Probably gonna be better fruit. Now just look it in the glass if you can. Oh God. Then now that glass looks fucking, there you go. Look at that. Yeah. That's all right. It's not too bad. See those bubbles? Kenya? You can't see him. That's the, uh, tiny sch of glass. Have you still got your skin of glass? Yeah, of course I do. Nice. Yeah, so it's kind of dumb, you know, because like, I just don't see myself as like an influencer. I know that sounds really, uh, dumb, you know? Um, I think, I think the term is the, the term has been corrupted by what we all think of an influencer like, but like before this whole influencer. I used to do loads of content online, loads and loads, and I didn't feel any shame or fear or anything. I just shared everything with a lot of content out there. There was no influencer. It was just, this is what I'm doing. This is some content that would be useful. Um, but now it's, I I know what you're saying. You kind of, anytime you put something online, you're fucking nervous about it. You don't wanna be seen as an influencer. I'm not, I'm not nervous about it. But, but the thing is, is that, um, like I am aware that I do have an influence on the industry, particularly the Australian craft brewing industry and stuff like that. Um, and, you know, that has the potential to have sort of, uh, you know, like, um, uh, potential knock on effects, you know, and that sort of thing. And. And, but the thing is right, is that I actually, I don't see myself as an influencer. I just see myself just being me and just putting shit online cuz I think it's either funny or interesting or something like that. That's perfect. And how other people. And how other people, and that's, that's good. Well, well, exactly. But if how other people choose to perceive me well that, that's entirely up, up to them, you know? And, um, uh, and you know, I I, I love everyone in the industry and that sort of thing. And, um, you know, and I, I love this industry, uh, and yeah, it's just sort of like, um, I just, I'm just being myself, you know? And some people don't like it. And don't like it. Cool. I don't care. I don't think anyone doesn't like it. You, you, you are awesome. Just fucking send it. You're doing great. Yeah. I'm a fan. Yeah. I'll just go full. Send then I'm one fucking, what have I got? What have I got? Lose exactly. A hundred percent. Alright, let's get into the news. Um, Ratton Hunt is now only a hundred and three fifty five mil cans. I just finished mine. Fuck God. It's bittersweet. Oh yeah. Okay. So, uh, I love that Ratton Hunt was in a four 40 mil can, but I completely understand the reason that it's in a 3 55 mil can. Mm-hmm. I think they're taken a core range and that sort of thing. Oh, okay. That, that was fucking delicious. Nice. That was delicious. Um, and I think it's getting a little bit of a name change. It's not traditional pills and it's something else, Pilsner and that sort of thing. Mm-hmm. Um, and, um, yeah, more people drink pills. Now we, Australians don't understand pills now. No. Um, you know, they don't understand the word pilsner. Um, but um, that'd be it. It was the first, the very first batch that won. The trophy of the ABAs, I think it was last year. And that sort of thing was phenomenal. And then it didn't get so great, but now it's back with the vengeance. Nice. Has been, has been for the last, uh, for the whole of this year. Um, and I've been drinking it quite frequently and that was sensational, the date code on it. Nice. We should, we should get a screen. Wouldn't you get a screenshot of that to be What, what we Yeah, we did. We did. Oh, that was it. Yeah, we did. Um, um, so yeah, I, I'm not a fan of the big can anyway. I know. It's like a, people love it cuz it's bigger, but it's just big cans are silly. Yeah. No, no, no. I, I, I agree. Taking it to a smaller can I think is a great idea. But three 50 fives. Oh, that one hurt. That one hurt. I won't lie. That hurt. Yeah. Just gimme a 3 75, you know. Oh, just makes sense. They're clued on dudes over there. They probably know what they're doing. Yeah, they, well, I think all their other cans are 3 55, so I think it's just compatible with what they do. That's just personal preference. It's fucking, that's just an opinion. Speaks nothing of the fucking awesome beer that it is and the awesome people that make it, you know? Yeah. Um, so yeah, and at the end of the day, if they can, you know, I, I've never looked into it too much, but if you can sell 3 55 and people pay about the same and the business is better off for it than fucking, I'm all for it. Yeah, absolutely. But would you buy a six pack of it? Correct. Answer is yes. The correct answer is yes. I don't, I don't like it probably comes in a four pack, in which case you buy two, four packs, but that makes eight pack. Yeah. Better than the six pack. That's, yeah, that's true. All right. Did you see this, the aac, so I put in here the aback, um, claims quarterly. Article from Bruce News, but also direct link to the, um, pdf. I have a little skim through. There's some interesting shit in here. Really? How interesting would Okay. Pull up. Give us the fucking weirdest well hard fears of just chat in the bed again and they just don't give a fuck. That goes without saying. The funniest bit from the hard PI thing was, do I need to go to the AVAC website for the um, no, I put in the notes the pdf. Oh, oh, got it, got it, got it. There. Had something in there saying like, oh, here we go. The company did not remove the marketing material and the complaint was referred to the Queensland Liquor Authority. Ah, absolutely. That's what they do. So that's not great. So that one was, that's what they do. Oh, is this hard? Fizz. Oh, MSC box tails. Yeah. Where's hard fizz. I just wanna see how they've chat the be. Oh, here we go. Uh, Concern that images. So the complaint is the concern that images of people that seem under the influence of the statement who says, this shit doesn't get you drunk, that ain't give a fuck, it's that ain't give a fuck. It's so irresponsible. Like, whether you like aback or not say that when you're dealing with liquor. Yeah, no, it, because there, there are people out there that have alcohol addiction, all sort of stuff. It's like you just, you just can't, oh, it's so bad. Well, the other thing, the thing about the AVA code, it's common sense. Yeah, I was gonna say, if all these things keep getting referred to Queensland Liquor, then they're starting to get the message that people don't give a fuck about AAC and they'll probably just ditch it and then introduce government regulation. Oh, absolutely. If we get government regulation because of these guys, I'm gonna be fucking pissed. Yeah. That'll be shit. But the next step, and this is gonna be the really interesting thing, right? Is they'll get referred to, uh, Queensland Liquor Licensing cuz I, I assume that that's where their liquor license is. And what will happen is they'll start getting rsa um, issues, fines and all that sort of stuff. And that's when the real shit happens. Right. So kind of comes down to the states to, but they don't have much, I think their business is mainly a wholesale business. I don't think they're You mean for the tapering? Is that what you mean For rsa? No, your, your marketing. Oh, for the, on social media. Yeah. Um, can be seen as not being responsible service of alcohol. Oh, true. And then your licenses are threat and then you fucked. Correct. Exactly. And then they're put outta business. This is, this is the thing. So ABAC don't have any teeth in that regard, but state liquor licensing, um, you know, commissions do. Yeah. The Bilsens one was interesting too. Where's the Bilsens one? What happened? There's bilsens, like the, uh, great bubblegum vodka. Oh, fairy floss fruit tingle. Yeah. Angle creamy soda. Toffy apple. Yep. This is like their whole business selling these things. And they were massive. They were like, when we did the, um, last year, I think we went to the Endeavor Group, supplier Awards. Bilson won fucking everything. Yeah. It's like their best product. They, um, they, it's a really interesting one. I think I saw some beers from, uh, edge Brewing Project as well over the last 24 hours that were called, uh, you know, tropical Pop. And it can't use the, it specifically says the Abic cannot use the word pop because that, that, that, that, that implies soft drink. Yeah. Yep. All right. And, um, so, you know, see what happens. Oh, the voucher you BOTAs T-shirt. I think that was Okay. The, the T-shirt with the VP logo shows the BB can dressed as a kid with the Santa Claus character has a very strong appeal to minors. Fuck off. Yeah. That's not a child. That's a green Santa. That the kid is a child. No, that be the can is a child, I think. Oh, Anne's got a kid's face. Oh. Uh, okay. I think the bigger problem is just a kid sitting on an old man's lap. That's creepy as fuck. That's Santa. That's what Santa does. That's so creepy. Dude. If you ever walk across the Superman supermarket, there's like these little kids sitting on some old dude's lap. It's fucking weird. Just what happens at Christmas. Yeah. It shouldn't though. Shouldn't, let's be honest about that. It should let your kids sit. Sit on Santa's lap. Fuck no. Um, I've always wondered about these ones. So this one, herbal Law of Cures. Yes. It literally just makes all these claims about how it makes you more relaxed and. Therapeutic benefits and all this strength and power. Like, you can't do that shit, guys. No, you definitely can't do that shit. But there was, and then the BWS one, some call it natural medicine. We call it delicious. Oh my God. Wow. You definitely cannot say that. You actually cannot say that alcohol is a therapeutic. Uh uh uh, wow. It's just so, it's so funny that people just go into this game just thinking, oh, we can do whatever we want, but not realizing that it's alcohol and you've got like a social responsibility and that sort of, dude, I, I was the same. We found out the hard way that you can't just put whatever the fuck you want on a beer can. Yeah. Um, had no idea. What about this BWS one at 24 beers in a day? Day 24. 24 hours In a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence. Coincidence. That's a, that's a sign out the front of a t Y bws. A Ws. Pretty funny. It's an old saying. Yeah. But yeah. You can't do that cartoons with Is that fucking Pauline Hansen? Dude, this one was interesting because this one was like a cartoon that I think they're, um, like someone else made, like they didn't make it. I think they were like a distributor. Yeah. Right. Didn't create the video and had no entitle. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Which is something we've uh, we've wondered before is like if like the inspired unemployed do something Yes. It's not appropriate. Is that the same as if Better Bear do something it's not appropriate? Yes. Or if their customers do and it get shipp, oh, someone complained about the VB button. You press the VB button twice and then you get a case of VB delivered. No, but they said that's sweet. Yeah, of course. It's everyone should have a BB part. Vbs fucking sick. Vbs. Very gross. Yeah. There's a lot in here where they said that hadn't been breach a held a lot of complaints. Someone's busy here making complaints, that's for sure. Yeah. Lots of different people. Mm-hmm. Anyway, fucking you back. All right, what have we got? One more top 50 US brewing companies and also this article, um, I think it's said in here that the craft beer market share had increased Good in American in the us Good. Yeah. Yeah, because they had a Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah. Shrink 3%, 6% growth over 2021. Yep. Yep. So what's the top 50? What's number one there? Is that you, wait, are you looking at it? You can guess. Yeah. Uh, Sierra. Oh, Ling England. Yeah, of course. Boston Beer Company. Yes. Here in Nevada? Yes. Uh, dove Morga, which is Firestone Walker. Oh, really? Something el Yeah. Yeah. Deve owns Firestone Walker. I dunno what the one city is. Uh, Gambino owned Shire. Yes. Gabri. These fucking brewing companies. Can, can I, oh, there's some, there's some, um, like conglomerates, like ment in the top 10 there. Why does Stone have an districts next to it? Where Stone Brewing, uh, does not include fbs FSBs. Uh, I have no idea what that means. Tilray Beer brands. Dunno who that is. Uh, Brooklyn. Deschutes New Athletic. The athletic Athletic is, is non the number 13. High country. Get out. Fucking huge, huh? Yeah. Unbelievable. Allagash, Georgetown, Odell Ryan, guys. Yeah. Some fucking great breweries. We should go to the States and do a brewery tour. I went to odell. That's in, um, Fort Collins. That place is called Shit. You should go to the, the, we should go to the us. Oh. We can go to a, we can go to a watch, A Starship launch, which I think is happening tonight. Cause it's four 20. Four 20. Yeah. Tomorrow morning. Oh, tonight. Yeah, tonight. And can you stay up to watch the other one? Uh, no, but I probably, I, cause I was pretty well 90% sure they were gonna scrub it for some reason. Oh. I'll probably scrubbed this one as well. I stayed up. It was, it was looking good until like eight minutes to go and then it was like, no scrubbed. Yeah. I'll probably watch this one this time around. When is that? Let me have a look. Spice six, it was 10 o'clock at night. I wasn't that late. Mm-hmm. Because it was nine in the morning over there. Upcoming Starship test flight April. 8 28 CT nine 30 ct. What does that mean in English or Australian? Five 40. Oh no, it's no, uh, 5:40 AM Is that right? What time? That sounds sick. Wait, five? No, three hours from now? Yeah. So it'll be, oh yeah, it'll be like 10 30, 11, 11:00 PM something. 1141, nearly midnight. Yeah. Unbelievable. Fuck. I'm keen to see it. Yeah. No US trip. I'm keen Do we have to like pack heat or whatever or? Probably. Okay. Do you know how to shoot guns? Yes. Okay. Orley, I don't really know anything about them, but my, my mate down the street's got a gun cabinet with like all these guns and shit in it. Yeah. No, I'm not, I'm not a gun gun person by any means, but, um, Uh, but you know, my, my, my brother had a farm and had rifles and shotguns and stuff like that, and we'd shoot the things that that fling in the air, you know, like the Olympics, the little clay, pigeons, pigeons, clay, pigeons. It would shoot those shoots. But I feel like you need to, if you go to America, man, if you gotta do it, you have to do it. It's so fucked. And it just feels so fucking weird that they're so into guns. But it's so weird. I, I listened to a episode of Joe Rogan the other day and he is going on about how good Australia is, and he is like, dude, Australia's the best. Like it's the best now talking about, and they're like, yeah, the only problem is they just need more guns. Like that is, no, we don't. We absolutely do not. No can hell. We absolutely do not know you've some of the

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In this episode of the Market Dominance Guys podcast, Chris, Corey and Helen Fanucci discuss the evolution of the internet, from its early days as a way for messages to move across networks to the democratization of global information through the browser and search engines. They also explore the capabilities of ChatGPT, including its ability to generate email responses and interact with customers using personalized prompts. They highlight the potential of ChatGPT to save time and improve the quality of communication for sales professionals. Join us for this idea-filled episode, "How ChatGPT Can Improve Sales Enablement."   Four ideas on how sales professionals can benefit from using ChatGPT for follow-up: Personalized Follow-Up: ChatGPT can help sales professionals create personalized follow-up messages for each customer based on their preferences, interests, and past interactions with the sales team. ChatGPT can analyze the customer's conversation history and provide personalized responses that feel like a human wrote them. Lead Nurturing: ChatGPT can help sales professionals nurture leads by sending automated follow-up messages to potential customers at regular intervals. These messages can be customized to meet the specific needs of each customer, making it easier to keep them engaged with the sales process. Schedule Meetings: ChatGPT can help sales professionals schedule meetings with potential customers by automating the process of finding a mutually convenient time to meet. This can save the sales team a lot of time and effort by eliminating the need to go back and forth with customers trying to find a suitable time. Provide Instant Customer Support: ChatGPT can be used to provide instant customer support to customers who have questions or concerns about a product or service. Sales professionals can use ChatGPT to respond to these inquiries in real-time, providing customers with the information they need to make a purchasing decision. This can help increase customer satisfaction and improve the chances of closing a sale. The Evolution of the Internet and Digital Communications 1960s: The concept of hypertext is introduced by Ted Nelson. 1980: Tim Berners-Lee develops the idea of a "mesh" network of hyperlinked documents and begins working on the WorldWideWeb (WWW) project. 1990: The first web page is created by Tim Berners-Lee. It contains information about the WWW project and how to use a web browser. 1991: The first web browser, called WorldWideWeb, is developed by Tim Berners-Lee. It was a text-only browser and was only available on the NeXTSTEP operating system. 1993: The first graphical web browser, called Mosaic, is released by Marc Andreessen and Eric Bina. It was a huge success and helped to popularize the web. 1994: The first search engine, called WebCrawler, is launched by Brian Pinkerton. It was the first search engine to index entire web pages rather than just titles and headings. 1995: Netscape Navigator is released by Netscape Communications Corporation. It becomes the most popular web browser and sets the standard for web browsing features. 1996: The first version of Internet Explorer is released by Microsoft, marking the beginning of the "browser wars" between Microsoft and Netscape. 1998: Google is founded by Larry Page and Sergey Brin. Their search engine quickly becomes the most popular and sets a new standard for search technology. 2003: Skype is launched, becoming one of the first and most popular VoIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) services. 2004: Mozilla Firefox is released by the Mozilla Foundation as an open-source alternative to Internet Explorer. 2008: Google releases the first version of the Chrome browser, which quickly becomes popular due to its speed and simplicity. 2009: WhatsApp is launched, providing a new way for people to communicate via instant messaging and voice calls over the internet. 2010: Microsoft releases Internet Explorer 9, which is considered a major improvement over previous versions. 2013: Google's Chrome becomes the most popular web browser, surpassing Internet Explorer for the first time. 2021: The current versions of popular web browsers include Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, Apple Safari, Microsoft Edge, and Opera. Popular search engines include Google, Bing, Yahoo, and DuckDuckGo. VOIP services like Skype, Zoom, and Teams have become critical tools for remote communication in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. The Worldwide Web continues to evolve and expand, with new technologies and innovations being introduced regularly. 2022: ChatGPT from OpenAI.com takes the world by storm and changes how we write and communicate forever.

Hello and welcome to Decoder. I'm Nilay Patel, editor in chief of The Verge, and Decoder is my show about big ideas, and other problems.  Today, I'm talking to Mitchell Baker, the chairwoman and CEO of Mozilla, the organization behind the Firefox browser, the Thunderbird email client, the Pocket newsreader, and a bunch of other interesting internet tools. Now as you all know, Decoder is secretly a podcast about org charts – maybe not so secretly, and Mozilla's structure is really interesting. Mozilla itself is a nonprofit foundation, but it contains within it something called the Mozilla Corporation, which actually makes Firefox and the rest. Mitchell is the chairwoman of the foundation, and the CEO of the corporation. And the Mozilla Corporation, which they charmingly call MoCo, can make a profit - or it can least be taxed, which is an important distinction you'll hear Mitchell talk about. I bring this up because Mozilla has been around since 1994 in a variety of structures and business models – it started as a company called Netscape, and Mitchell was one of the first employees in the legal department. Netscape's product was Netscape Navigator, the first commercial web browser, which of course changed the consumer internet and scared Microsoft so much it did a bunch of anticompetitive things that led to the famous antitrust case. In the meantime, Netscape got sold to AOL, and along the way Mitchell led the somewhat renegade Mozilla Project inside the company which eventually lead to Mozilla the non-profit foundation that eventually launched Firefox. It's a lot! But now Mitchell is trying to live up to Mozilla's nonprofit ideals of protecting the open internet while still trying to compete and cooperate with tech giants like Apple and Google. And these are complicated relationships: Google still accounts for a huge percentage of Mozilla's revenue – it pays hundreds of millions of dollars to be the default search engine in Firefox. And Apple restricts what browser engines can run on the iPhone – Firefox Focus on the iPhone is still running Apple's webkit engine, something that regulators, particularly in Europe want to change.   On top of all that, some big foundational pieces of the web are changing: Microsoft is aggressively rolling out its chatGPT-powered Bing search engine in an effort to displace Google and get people to switch to the Edge browser, and Twitter's implosion means that Mitchell sees Mastodon as one of Mozilla's next big opportunities.  So how does Mozilla get through this period of change while staying true to itself? And will anyone actually switch browsers again? Turns out – it might be easier to get people to switch on phones, than on desktops. That's Mozilla's belief, anyway. Links: Netscape - Wikipedia The State of Mozilla: 2021 — 2022 Annual Report The future of computers is only $4 away, with Raspberry Pi CEO Eben Upton Firefox drops Google as default search engine, signs five-year deal with Yahoo Microsoft thinks AI can beat Google at search — CEO Satya Nadella explains why Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI A beginner's guide to Mastodon, the hot new open-source Twitter clone Transcript: https://www.theverge.com/e/23362385 Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. It was produced by Creighton DeSimone and Jackie McDermott and it was edited by Callie Wright.  The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Our Editorial Director is Brooke Minters and our Executive Director is Eleanor Donovan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Im Sommer 1995 ist Bill Gates besorgt über den plötzlichen Aufstieg des Internets. Eigentlich ist Bill Gates es gewohnt, in der Welt der Computer das Ruder in der Hand zu halten. Jetzt scheint es, als wäre er nicht einmal im Boot. Marc Andreessen hat gerade die neueste Version der Netscape Navigator vorgestellt. Sie ist schneller und stabiler als die vorherige, und immer noch kostenlos. Bill Gates erkennt: Wenn Microsoft in der Welt des Internets relevant sein will, muss sich etwas ändern.Unsere allgemeinen Datenschutzrichtlinien finden Sie unter https://art19.com/privacy. Die Datenschutzrichtlinien für Kalifornien sind unter https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info abrufbar.

Let's take a trip back to 1994 where we talk about Lil Oopsie Daisy, Netscape Navigator, Cesar Romero and the best (and worst) of the movies and music of that year.

Internet Explorer slowly gained market share throughout 1995 and 1996, with the release of two major updates and a slew of corporate partnerships. Behind closed doors, Microsoft fought against PC makers that wanted to support IE's main competitor, Netscape Navigator. Hosted by Corbin Davenport, guest starring Cody Toombs. Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TechTalesShow Follow on Mastodon/Fediverse: https://mas.to/@techtales Support the Show: https://techtalesshow.com/support Videos: • https://youtu.be/pUprvSUMXYE Sources: • https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=29919 • https://www.webdesignmuseum.org/old-software/web-browsers • https://winworldpc.com/product/internet-explorer • https://news.microsoft.com/1996/05/29/microsoft-internet-explorer-3-0-beta-now-available/ • https://www.newspapers.com/clip/107368886/microsoft-wins-the-latest-bout-with/ • https://books.google.com/books?id=zDsEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA90#v=onepage&q&f=false • https://www.wired.com/1996/11/will-activex-threaten-national-security/

I det sista avsnittet innan sommarlovet tar Erik och Mattias en titt på Internet Explorers uppgång och fall. Microsoft, som står bakom webbläsaren, meddelade nyss att Internet Explorer har gått i graven. Från 1995 fram tills nu, har Internet Explorer slagits mot Netscape Navigator, Firefox, Safari och Chrome för att nämna några konkurrenter. Vi berättar om alla dessa år och gör sedan tappra försök att härma Morgan Freeman och Leonard Nimoy när vi läser högt ur "Book of Mozilla". Visst måste man ha ett mer skämtsamt avsnitt såhär inför ledigheten? Show notes finns här: https://www.itsakerhetspodden.se/175-ies-uppgang-och-fall/

In this episode of the DeFi Download, Piers Ridyard interviews Alex Mashinsky, co-founder and CEO of Celsius. Alex shares his vision for Celsius, as well as his passion for value creation and giving back to the people who couldn't make it.Celsius is a yield and loan platform that allows users to earn interest on their crypto assets as well as receive a loan in one click. Celsius has had an incredible five-year run, with $23 billion in assets under management, including 2 million ETH and over 250,000 Bitcoin, more than Michael Saylor and a number of the Bitcoin community's champions, and they've just raised an incredible $700 million. Celsius currently employs over 850 people and has paid out over a billion dollars in yield to its community. Alex's backstory is fascinating. He was born in Ukraine and immigrated to the United States in his early twenties, where he built four tech unicorns worth over a billion dollars and invented Voice over IP at the dawn of the internet. [1:10] Alex talks about the four unicorn companies he founded.[5:26] From Voice over IP to internet access to giving people yield, why does Alex Mashinsky care so much about disintermediation?[9:27] Is the crypto world adopting Wall Street's worst habits? Insiders are said to make the most money in crypto, illustrated by the phrase "If you don't know where the yield is coming from, you're the yield." According to Alex, what are these bad habits?[12:10] What drives Alex to do the things he does?[14:51] What accounts for the high yield Celsius generates?[19:52] In the early days of the Internet, AOL was a walled garden focused on user experience. Then came the Netscape Navigator moment, when the internet suddenly became usable, and we quickly transitioned from Web 1.0 to Web 2.0. Instead of a curated garden, people desired an open platform where they could go and use whatever the internet had to offer anywhere in the world. How is Celsius not like AOL, based on this fact?[24:01] Is Alex considering Celsius to be an entire crypto universe? Or does he see it as a starting point for people to learn what it means to own and use cryptocurrency?[26:41] How does the Celsius team think about strategy, customer acquisition, and growth in the industry of yield-based products, given the growing competition from companies like Nexo and Coinbase Institutional? [28:50] Equality of opportunity, one of the key aspects of crypto and DeFi[30:57] CelsiusX: access the rest of DeFi via the Celsius platform[33:55] Celsius's strategy for preventing hacks and mitigating financial risk[39:14] From the perspective of regulatory risk, a single institution is a single point of failure, and the industry is currently unsure how the regulator will view crypto assets and the kinds of things that Celsius is doing. What is Alex's and his team's take on regulatory risk and how they can mitigate it as a company while still providing service to their customers?Further resourcesWebsite: celsius.network Twitter: @CelsiusNetworkAlex Mashinsky Twitter: @Mashinsky Celsius Community TelegramCelsius AMA Archive on YouTube

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About KellyKellyAnn Fitzpatrick is a Senior Industry Analyst at RedMonk, the developer-focused industry analyst firm. Having previously worked as a QA analyst, test & release manager, and tech writer, she has experience with containers, CI/CD, testing frameworks, documentation, and training. She has also taught technical communication to computer science majors at the Georgia Institute of Technology as a Brittain Postdoctoral Fellow.Holding a Ph.D. in English from the University at Albany and a B.A. in English and Medieval Studies from the University of Notre Dame, KellyAnn's side projects include teaching, speaking, and writing about medievalism (the ways that post-medieval societies reimagine or appropriate the Middle Ages), and running to/from donut shops.Links: RedMonk: https://redmonk.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/drkellyannfitz TranscriptAnnouncer: Hello, and welcome to Screaming in the Cloud with your host, Chief Cloud Economist at The Duckbill Group, Corey Quinn. This weekly show features conversations with people doing interesting work in the world of cloud, thoughtful commentary on the state of the technical world, and ridiculous titles for which Corey refuses to apologize. This is Screaming in the Cloud.Corey: Today's episode is brought to you in part by our friends at MinIO the high-performance Kubernetes native object store that's built for the multi-cloud, creating a consistent data storage layer for your public cloud instances, your private cloud instances, and even your edge instances, depending upon what the heck you're defining those as, which depends probably on where you work. It's getting that unified is one of the greatest challenges facing developers and architects today. It requires S3 compatibility, enterprise-grade security and resiliency, the speed to run any workload, and the footprint to run anywhere, and that's exactly what MinIO offers. With superb read speeds in excess of 360 gigs and 100 megabyte binary that doesn't eat all the data you've gotten on the system, it's exactly what you've been looking for. Check it out today at min.io/download, and see for yourself. That's min.io/download, and be sure to tell them that I sent you.Corey: This episode is sponsored by our friends at Oracle HeatWave is a new high-performance query accelerator for the Oracle MySQL Database Service, although I insist on calling it “my squirrel.” While MySQL has long been the worlds most popular open source database, shifting from transacting to analytics required way too much overhead and, ya know, work. With HeatWave you can run your OLAP and OLTP—don't ask me to pronounce those acronyms again—workloads directly from your MySQL database and eliminate the time-consuming data movement and integration work, while also performing 1100X faster than Amazon Aurora and 2.5X faster than Amazon Redshift, at a third of the cost. My thanks again to Oracle Cloud for sponsoring this ridiculous nonsense.Corey: Welcome to Screaming in the Cloud, I'm Corey Quinn. It's always a good day when I get to sit down and have a chat with someone who works over at our friends at RedMonk. Today is no exception because after trying for, well, an embarrassingly long time, my whining and pleading has finally borne fruit, and I'm joined by Kelly Fitzpatrick, who's a senior industry analyst at RedMonk. Kelly, thank you for, I guess, finally giving in to my always polite, but remarkably persistent requests to show up on the show.Kelly: Great, thanks for having me. It's great to finally be on the show.Corey: So, let's start at the very beginning because I am always shockingly offended whenever it happens, but some people don't actually know what RedMonk is. What is it you'd say it is that you folks do?Kelly: Oh, I love this question. Because it's like, “What do you do,” versus, “What are you?” And that's a very big difference. And I'm going to start with maybe what we are. So, we are a developer-focused industry analyst firm. You put all those things, kind of, together.And in terms of what we do, it means that we follow tech trends. And that's something that many industry analysts do, but our perspective is really interested in developers specifically and then practitioners more broadly. So, it's not just, “Okay, these are things that are happening in tech that you care about if you're a CIO,” but what tech things affect developers in terms of how they're building software and why they want to build software and where they're building software?Corey: So, backing it up slightly because it turns out that I don't know the answer to this either. What exactly is an industry analyst firm? And the reason I bring this up is I've been invited to industry analyst events, and that is entirely your colleague, James Governor's, fault because he took me out for lunch at I think it was Google Next a few years ago and said, “Oh, you're definitely an analyst.” “Okay, cool. Well, I don't think I am. Why should I be an analyst?”“Oh, because companies have analyst budgets.” “Oh, you said, analyst”—protip: Never get in the way of people trying to pay you to do things. But I still feel like I don't know what an analyst is, in this sense. Which means I'm about to get a whole bunch of refund requests when this thing airs.Kelly: I should hope not. But industry analysts, one of the jokes that we have around RedMonk is how do we explain to our families what an industry analyst is? And I think even Steve and James, who are RedMonk's founders, they've been doing this for quite a long time, like, much longer than they ever want to admit that they do, and they still are like, “Okay, how do I explain this to my parents?” Or you know, anyone else who's asking, and partly, it's almost like a very—a term that you'll see in the tech industry, but outside of it doesn't really have that much, kind of, currency in the same way that you can tell someone that you're like, maybe a business analyst or something like that, or any of those, almost like spy-like versions of analyst. I think was it The Hunt for Red October, the actual hero of that is an analyst, but not the type of analyst that I am in any way, shape or form.But you know, industry analyst firms, specifically, it's like we keep up on what tech is out there. People engage with us because they want to know what to buy for the things that they're doing and the things that they're building, or how to better create and sell the stuff that they are building to people who build software. So, in our case, it's like, all right, what type of tools are developers using? And where does this particular tool that our company is building fit into that? And how do you talk about that with developers in a way that makes sense to them?Corey: On some level, what I imagine your approach to this stuff is aligns somewhat with my own. Before you became an industry analyst, which I'm still not entirely sure I know what that is—I'm sorry, not your fault; just so many expressions of it out there—before you wound up down that path, you were a QA manager; you wound up effectively finding interesting bugs in software, documentation, et cetera. And, on some level, that's, I think, what has made me even somewhat useful in the space is I'll go ahead and try and build something out of something that a vendor has released, and huh, the documentation says it should work this way, but I try it and it breaks and it fails. And the response is always invariably the same, which is, “That's interesting,” which is engineering-speak for, “What the hell is that?” I have this knack for stumbling over weird issues, and I feel like that aligns with what makes for a successful QA person. Is that directionally correct, or am I dramatically misunderstanding things and I'm just accident-prone?Kelly: [laugh]. No, I think that makes a lot of sense. And especially coming from QA where it's like, not just making sure that something works, but making sure that something doesn't break if you try to break it in different ways, the things that are not necessarily the expected, you know, behaviors, that type of mindset, I think, for me translated very easily to, kind of, being an analyst. Because it's about asking questions; it's about not just taking the word of your developers that this software works, but going and seeing if it actually does and kind of getting your hands dirty, and in some cases, trying to figure out where certain problems or who broke the build, or why did the build break is always kind of super fun mystery that I love doing—not really, but, like, everyone kind of has to do it—and I think that translates to the analyst world where it's like, what pieces of these systems, or tech stacks, or just the way information is being conveyed about them is working or is not, and in what ways can people kind of maybe see things a different way that the people who are building or writing about these things did not anticipate?Corey: From my position, and this is one of the reasons I sort of started down this whole path is if I'm trying to build something with a product or a platform—or basically anything, it doesn't really matter what—and the user experience is bad, or there are bugs that get in my way, my default response—even now—is not, “Oh, this thing's a piece of crap that's nowhere near ready for primetime use,” but instead, it's, “Oh, I'm not smart enough to figure out how to use it.” It becomes a reflection on the user, and they feel bad as a result. And I don't like that for anyone, for any product because it doesn't serve the product well, it certainly doesn't serve the human being trying to use it and failing well, and from a pure business perspective, it certainly doesn't serve the ability to solve a business problem in any meaningful respect. So, that has been one of the reasons that I've been tilting at that particular windmill for as long as I have.Kelly: I think that makes sense because you can have the theoretically best, most innovative, going to change everyone's lives for the better, product in the world, but if nobody can use it, it's not going to change the world.Corey: As you take a look at your time at RedMonk, which has been, I believe, four years, give or take?Kelly: We're going to say three to four.Corey: Three to four? Because you've been promoted twice in your time there, let's be very clear, and this is clearly a—Kelly: That's a very, very astute observation on your part.Corey: It is a meteoric rise. And what makes that also fascinating from my perspective, is that despite being a company that is, I believe, 19 years old, you aren't exactly a giant company that throws bodies at problems. I believe you have seven full-time employees, two of whom have been hired in the last quarter.Kelly: That's true. So, seven full-time employees and five analysts. So, we have—of that it's five analysts, and we only added a fifth analyst the beginning of this year, with Dr. Kate Holterhoff. [unintelligible 00:08:09], kind of, bring her on the team.So, we had been operating with, like, kind of, six full-time employees. We were like, “We need some more resources in this area.” And we heard another analyst, which if you talk about, okay, we hired one more, but when you're talking about hiring one more and adding that to a team of, like, four analysts, it's such a big difference, just in terms of, kind of, resources. And I think your observation about you ca—we don't just throw bodies at problems is kind of correct. That is absolutely not the way we go about things at all.Corey: At a company that is taking the same model that The Duckbill Group does—by which I mean not raising a bunch of outside money is, as best I can tell—that means that you have to fall back on this ancient business model known as making more money than it costs to run the place every month, you don't get to do this massive scaled out hiring thing. So, bringing on multiple employees at a relatively low turnover company means that suddenly you're onboarding not just one new person, but two. What has that been like? Because to be very clear, if you're hiring 20 engineers or whatnot, okay, great, and you're having significant turnover, yeah, onboarding two folks is not that big of a deal, but this is a significant percentage of your team.Kelly: It is. And so for us—and Kate started at the beginning of this year, so she's only been here for a bit—but in terms of onboarding another analyst, this is something where I haven't done before, but, like, my colleagues have, whereas the other new member of our team, Morgan Harris, who is our Account Engagement Manager, and she is amazing, and has also, like, very interesting background and client success in, like, fashion, which is, you know, awesome when I'm trying to figure out what [unintelligible 00:09:48] fit I need to do, we have someone in-house who can actually give me advice on that. But that's not something that we have onboarded for that role very much in the past, so bringing on someone where they're the only person in their role and, like, having to begin to learn the role. And then also to bring in another analyst where we have a little bit more experience onboarding analysts, it takes a lot of patience for everybody involved. And the thing I love about RedMonk and the people that I get to work with is that they actually have that patience and we function very well as, like, a team.And because of that, I think things that could really have thrown us off course, like losing an account engagement or onboarding one and then onboarding a new analyst, like, over the holidays, during a pandemic, and everything else that is happening, it's going much more smoothly than it could have otherwise.Corey: These are abnormal times, to be sure. It's one of those things where it's, we're a couple years into a pandemic now, and I still feel like we haven't really solved most of the problems that this has laid bare, which kind of makes me despair of ever really figuring out what that's going to look like down the road.Kelly: Yeah, absolutely. And there is very much the sense that, “Okay, we should be kind of back to normal, going to in-person conferences.” And then you get to an in-person conference, and then they all move back to virtual or, as in your case, you go to an in-person conference and then you have to sequester yourself away from your family for a couple of weeks to make sure that you're not bringing something home.Corey: So, I have to ask. You have been quoted as saying that 2022—for those listening, that is this year—is the year of documentation. You're onboarding two new people into a company that does not see significant turnover, which means that invariably, “Oh, it's been a while since we've updated the documentation. Whoops-a-doozy,” is a pretty common experience there. How much of your assertion that this is the year of documentation comes down to the, “Huh. Our onboarding stuff is really out of date,” versus a larger thing that you're seeing in the industry?Kelly: That is a great question because you never know what your documentation is like until you have someone new, kind of, come in with fresh eyes, has a perspective not only on, “Okay, I have no idea what this means,” or, “This is not where I thought it would be,” or, “This, you know, system is not working in any… in any way similar to anything I have ever seen in any other part of my, like, kind of, working career.” So, that's where you really see what kind of gaps you have, but then you also kind of get to see which parts are working out really well. And not to spend, kind of, too much on that, but one of the best things that my coworkers did for me when I started was, Rachel Stephens had kept a log of, like, all the questions that she had as a new analyst. And she just, like, gave that to me with some advice on different things, like, in a spreadsheet, which I think is—I love spreadsheets so much and so does Rachel. And I think I might love spreadsheets more than Rachel at this point, even though she actually has a hat that says, “Spreadsheets.”But when Kate started, it was fascinating to go through that and see what parts of that were either no longer relevant because the entire world had changed, or because the industry had advanced, or because there's all these new things you need to know now that we're not on the list of things that you needed to know three years ago. And then what other, even, topics belong down on that kind of list of things to know. So, I think documentation is always a good, like, check-in for things like that.But going back to, like, your larger question. So, documentation is important, not just because we happened to be onboarding, but a lot of people, I think once they no longer could be in the office with people and rely on that kind of face-to-face conversations to smooth over things began, I think, to realize how essential documentation was to just their everyday to day, kind of, working lives. So, I think that's something that we've definitely seen from the pandemic. But then there are certainly other signals in the software industry-specific, which we can go into or not depending on your level of interest.Corey: Well, something that I see that I have never been a huge fan of in corporate life—and it feels like it is very much a broad spectrum—has been that on one side of the coin, you have this idea that everything we do is bespoke and we just hire smart people and get out of their way. Yeah, that's more uncontrolled anarchy than it is a repeatable company process around anything. And the other extreme is this tendency that companies have, particularly the large, somewhat slow-moving companies, to attempt to codify absolutely everything. It almost feels like it derives from the what I believe to be mistaken belief that with enough process, eventually you can arrive at the promised land where you don't have to have intelligent, dynamic people working behind things, you can basically distill it down to follow the script and push the buttons in the proper order, and any conceivable outcome is going to be achieved. I don't know if that's accurate, but that's always how it felt when you start getting too deeply mired in documentation-slash-process as almost religion.Kelly: And I think—you know, I agree. There has to be something between, “All right, we don't document anything and it's not necessary and we don't need it.” And then—Corey: “We might get raided by the FBI. We want nothing written down.” At which point it's like, what do you do here? Yeah.Kelly: Yeah. Leave no evidence, leave no paper trail of anything like that. And going too far into thinking that processes is absolutely everything, and that absolutely anyone can be plugged into any given role and things will be equally successful, or that we'll just be automated away or become just these, kind of, automatons. And I think that balance, it's important to think about that because while documentation is important, and you know, I will say 2022, I think we're going to hear more and more about it, we see it more as an increasingly valuable thing in tech, you can't solve everything with documentation. You can use it as the, kind of, duct tape and baling wire for some of the things that your company is doing, but throwing documentation at it is not going to fix things in the same way that throwing engineers at a problem is not going to fix it either. Or most problems. I mean, there are some that you can just throw engineers at.Corey: Well, there's a company wiki, also known as where documentation goes to die.Kelly: It is. And those, like, internal wikis, as horrible as they can be in terms of that's where knowledge goes to die as well, places that have nothing like that, it can be even more chaotic than places that are relying on the, kind of, company internal wiki.Corey: So, delving into a bit of a different topic here, before you were in the QA universe, you were what distills down to an academic. And I know that sometimes that can be interpreted as a personal attack in some quarters; I assure you, despite my own eighth grade level of education, that is not how this is intended at all. Your undergraduate degree was in medieval history—or medieval studies and your PhD was in English. So, a couple of questions around that. One, when we talk about medieval studies, are we talking about writing analyst reports about Netscape Navigator, or are we talking things a bit later in the sweep of history than that?Kelly: I appreciate the Netscape Navigator reference. I get that reference.Corey: Well, yeah. Medieval studies; you have to.Kelly: Medieval studies, when you—where we study the internet in the 1990s, basically. I completely lost the line of questioning that you're asking because I was just so taken by the Netscape Navigator reference.Corey: Well, thank you. Started off with the medieval studies history. So, medieval studies of things dating back to, I guess, before we had reasonably recorded records in a consistent way. And also Twitter. But I'm wondering how much of that lends itself to what you do as an analyst.Kelly: Quite a bit. And as much as I want to say, it's all Monty Python references all the time, it isn't. But the disciplinary rigor that you have to pick up as a medievalist or as anyone who's getting any kind of PhD ever, you know, for the most part, that very much easily translated to being an analyst. And even more so tech culture is, in so many ways, like, enamored—there's these pop culture medieval-isms that a lot of people who move in technical circles appreciate. And that kind of overlap for me was kind of fascinating.So, when I started, like, working in tech, the fact that I was like writing a dissertation on Lord of the Rings was this little interesting thing that my coworkers could, like, kind of latch on to and talk about with me, that had nothing to do with tech and that had nothing to do with the seemingly scary parts of being an academic.Corey: This episode is sponsored in part by our friends at Vultr. Spelled V-U-L-T-R because they're all about helping save money, including on things like, you know, vowels. So, what they do is they are a cloud provider that provides surprisingly high performance cloud compute at a price that—while sure they claim its better than AWS pricing—and when they say that they mean it is less money. Sure, I don't dispute that but what I find interesting is that it's predictable. They tell you in advance on a monthly basis what it's going to going to cost. They have a bunch of advanced networking features. They have nineteen global locations and scale things elastically. Not to be confused with openly, because apparently elastic and open can mean the same thing sometimes. They have had over a million users. Deployments take less that sixty seconds across twelve pre-selected operating systems. Or, if you're one of those nutters like me, you can bring your own ISO and install basically any operating system you want. Starting with pricing as low as $2.50 a month for Vultr cloud compute they have plans for developers and businesses of all sizes, except maybe Amazon, who stubbornly insists on having something to scale all on their own. Try Vultr today for free by visiting: vultr.com/screaming, and you'll receive a $100 in credit. Thats V-U-L-T-R.com slash screaming.Corey: I want to talk a little bit about the idea of academic rigor because to my understanding, in the academic world, the publication process is… I don't want to say it's arduous. But if people subjected my blog post anything approaching this, I would never write another one as long as I lived. How does that differ? Because a lot of what I write is off-the-cuff stuff—and I'm not just including tweets, but also tweets—whereas academic literature winds up in peer-reviewed journals and effectively expands the boundaries of our collective societal knowledge as we know it. And it does deserve a different level of scrutiny, let's be clear. But how do you find that shifts given that you are writing full-on industry analyst reports, which is something that we almost never do on our side, just honestly, due to my own peccadilloes?Kelly: You should write some industry reports. They're so fun. They're very fun.Corey: I am so bad at writing the long-form stuff. And we've done one or two previously, and each time my business partner had to basically hold my nose to the grindstone by force to get me to ship, on some level.Kelly: And also, I feel like you might be underselling the amount of writing talent it takes to tweet.Corey: It depends. You can get a lot more trouble tweeting than you can in academia most of the time. Every Twitter person is Reviewer 2. It becomes this whole great thing of, “Well, did you consider this edge corner case nuance?” It's, “I've got to say, in 208 any characters, not really. Kind of ran out of space.”Kelly: Yeah, there's no space at all. And it's not what that was intended. But going back to your original question about, like, you know, academic publishing and that type of process, I don't miss it. And I have actually published some academic pieces since I became an analyst. So, my book finally came out after I had started as—it came out the end of 2019 and I had already been at RedMonk for a year.It's an academic book; it has nothing to do with being an industry analyst. And I had an essay come out in another collection around the same time. So, I've had that come out, but the thing is, the cycle for that started about a year earlier. So, the timeframe for getting things out in, especially the humanities, can be very arduous and frustrating because you're kind of like, “I wrote this thing. I want it to actually appear somewhere that people can read it or use it or rip it apart if that's what they're going to do.”And then the jokes that you hear on Twitter about Reviewer 2 are often real. A lot of academic publishing is done in, like, usually, like, a double-blind process where you don't know who's reviewing you and the reviewers don't know who you are. I've been a reviewer, too, so I've been on that side of it. And—Corey: Which why you run into the common trope of people—Kelly: Yes.Corey: —suggesting, “Oh, you don't know what you're talking about. You should read this work by someone else,” who is in fact, the author they are reviewing.Kelly: Absolutely. That I think happens even when people do know who [laugh] who's stuff they're reviewing. Because it happens on Twitter all the time.Corey: Like, “Well, have you gotten to the next step beyond where you have a reviewer saying you should wind up looking at the work cited by”—and then they name-check themselves? Have we reached that level of petty yet, or has that still yet to be explored?Kelly: That is definitely something that happens in academic publishing. In academic circles, there can be these, like, frenemy relations among people that you know, especially if you are in a subfield that is very tiny. You tend to know everybody who is in that subfield, and there's, like, a lot of infighting. And it does not feel that far from tech, sometimes. [unintelligible 00:21:52] you could look at the whole tech industry, and you look at the little areas that people specialize in, and there are these communities around these specializations that—you can see some of them on Twitter.Clearly, not all of them exist in the Twitterverse, but in some ways, I think that translated over nicely of, like, the year-long publication and, like, double peer-review process is not something that I have to deal with as much now, and it's certainly something that I don't miss.Corey: You spent extensive amounts of time studying the past, and presumably dragons as well because, you know, it's impossible to separate medieval studies from dragons in my mind because basically, I am a giant child who lives through fantasy novels when it comes to exploring that kind of past. And do you wind up seeing any lessons we can take from the things you have studied to our current industry? That is sort of a strange question, but they say that history doesn't repeat, but it rhymes, and I'm curious to how far back that goes. Because most people are citing, you know, 1980s business studies. This goes centuries before that.Kelly: I think the thing that maybe stands out for me the most the way that you framed that is, when we look at the past and we think of something like the Middle Ages, we will often use that term and be like, “Okay, here's this thing that actually existed, right?” Here's, like, this 500 years of history, and this is where the Middle Ages began, and here's where it ended, and this is what it was like, and this is what the people were like. And we look at that as the some type of self-evident thing that exists when in reality, it's a concept that we created, that people who lived in later ages created this concept, but then it becomes something that has real currency and, really, weight in terms of, like, how we talk about the world.So, someone will say, you know, I like that film. It was very medieval. And it'll be a complete fantasy that has nothing to do with Middle Ages but has a whole bunch of these tropes and signals that we translate as the Middle Ages. I feel like the tech industry has a great capacity to do that as well, to kind of fold in along with things that we tend to think of as being very scientific and very logical but to take a concept and then just kind of begin to act as if it is an actual thing when it's something that people are trying to make a thing.Corey: Tech has a lot of challenges around the refusing to learn from history aspect in some areas, too. One of the most common examples I've heard of—or at least one that resonated the most with me—is hiring, where tech loves to say, “No one really knows how to hire effectively and well.” And that is provably not true. Ford and GM and Coca-Cola have run multi-decade studies on how to do this. They've gotten it down to a science.But very often, we look at that in tech and we're trying to invent everything from first principles. And I think, on some level, part of that comes out as, “Well, I wouldn't do so well in that type of interview scenario, therefore, it sucks.” And I feel like we're too willing in some cases to fail to heed the lessons that others have painstakingly learned, so we go ahead and experiment on our own and try and reinvent things that maybe we should not be innovating around if we're small, scrappy, and trying to one area of the industry. Maybe going back to how we hire human beings should not be one of those areas of innovation that you spend all your time on as a company.Kelly: I think for some companies, I think it depends on how you're hiring now. It's like, if your hiring practices are horrible, like, you probably do need to change them. But to your point, like, spending all of your energy on how are we hiring, can be counterproductive. Am I allowed to ask you a question?Corey: Oh, by all means. Mostly, the questions people ask me is, “What the hell is wrong with you?” But that's fine, I'm used to that one, too. Bonus points if you have a different one.Kelly: Like, your hiring processes at Duckbill Group. Because you've hired, you know, folks recently. How do you describe that? Like, what points of that you think… are working really well?Corey: The things that have worked out well for us have been being very transparent at the beginning around things like comp, what the job looks like, where it starts, where it stops, what we expect from people, what we do not expect from people, so there are no surprises down that path. We explain how many rounds of interviews there are, who they'll be meeting with at each stage. If we wind up declining to continue with a candidate in a particular cycle, anything past the initial blind resume submission, we will tell them; we don't ghost people. Full stop. Originally, we wanted to wind up responding to every applicant with a, “Sorry, we're not going to proceed,” if the resume was a colossal mismatch. For example, we're hiring for a cloud economist, and we have people with PhDs in economics, and… that's it. They have not read the job description.And then when you started doing that people would argue with us on a constant basis, and it just became a soul-sucking time sink. So, it's unfortunate, but that's the reality of it. But once we've had a conversation with you, doing that is the right answer. We try and move relatively quickly. We're honest with folks because we believe that an interview is very much a two-way street.And even if we declined to proceed—or you declined to proceed with us; either way—that you should still think well enough of us that you would recommend us to people for whom it might be a fit. And if we treat you like crap, you're never going to do that. Not to mention, I just don't like making people feel like crap as a general rule. So, that stuff that has all come out of hiring studies.So, has the idea of a standardized interview. We don't have an arbitrary question list that we wind up smacking people with from a variety of different angles. And if you drew the lucky questions, you'll do fine. We also don't set this up as pass-fail, we tend to presume that by the time you've been around the industry for as long as generally is expected for years of experience for the role, we're not going to suddenly unmask you as not knowing how computers work through our ridiculous series of trivia questions. We don't ask those.We also make the interview look a lot like what the job is, which is apparently a weird thing. It's in a lot of tech companies it's, “Go and solve whiteboard algorithms for us.” And then, “Great. Now, what's the job?” “It's going to be moving around some CSS nonsense.”It's like, first that is very different, and secondly, it's way harder to move CSS than to implement quicksort, for most folks. At least for me. So, it's… yeah, it just doesn't measure the right things. That's our approach. I'm not saying we cracked it by any means to be very clear here. This is just what we have found that sucks the least.Kelly: Yeah, I think the, ‘we're not going to do obscure whiteboarding exercises' is probably one of the key things. I think some people are still very attached those personal reasons. And I think the other thing I liked about what you said, is to make the interview as similar to the job as you can, which based on my own getting hired process at RedMonk and then to some levels of being involved in hiring our, kind of, new hires, I really like that. And I think that for me, the process will like, okay, you submit your application. There'd be—I think I'd to do a writing sample.But then it was like, you get on a call and you talk to Steve. And then you get on a call and you talk to James. And talking to people is my job. Like for the most part. I write things, but it's mostly talking to people, which you may not believe by the level of articulate, articulate-ness, I am stumbling my way through in this sentence.And then the transparency angle, I think it's something that most companies are not—may not be able to approach hiring in such a transparent way for whatever reason, but at least the motion towards being transparent about things like salaries, as opposed to that horrible salary negotiation part where that can be a nightmare for people, especially if there's this code of silence around what your coworkers or potential coworkers are making.Corey: We learned we were underpaying our clouds economists, so we wound up adjusting the rate advertised; at the same time we wound up improving the comp for existing team because, “Yeah, we're just going to make you apply again to be paid a fair wage for what you do,” no. Not how we play these games.Kelly: Yeah, which is, you know, one of the things that we're seeing in the industry now. Of course, the term ‘The Great Resignation' is out there. But with that comes, you know, people going to new places partly because that's how they can get, like, the salary increase or whatever it is they want for among other reasons.Corey: Some of the employees who have left have been our staunchest advocates, both for new applicants as well as new clients. There's something to be said for treating people as you mean to go on. My business partner, I've been clear that we aspire for this to be a 20, 25-year company, and you don't do that by burning bridges.Kelly: Yeah. Or just assuming that your folks are going to stay for three years and move on, which tends to be the kind of the lifespan of where people stay.Corey: Well, if they do, that's fine because it is expected. I don't want people to wind up feeling that they owe us anything. If it no longer makes sense for them to be here because they're not fulfilled or whatnot—this has happened to us before we've tried to change their mind, talked to them about what they wanted, and okay, we can't offer what you're after. How can we help you move on? That's the way it works.And like, the one thing we don't do in interviews—and this is something I very much picked up from the RedMonk culture as well—is we do a lot of writing here, so there's a writing sample of here's a list of theoretical findings for an AWS bill—if we're talking about a cloud economist role—great. Now, the next round is people are going to talk to you about that, and we're going to roleplay as if we were a client. But let's be clear, I won't tolerate abusive behavior from clients to our team, I will fire a client if it happens. So, we're not going to wind up bullying the applicant and smacking ‘em around on stuff—or smacking them around to be clear. That was an ‘em not a him, let's be clear.It's a problem of not wanting to even set the baseline expectation that you just have to sit there and take it when clients decide to go down unfortunate paths. And I believe it's happened all of maybe once in our five-and-a-half-year history. So, why would you ever sit around and basically have a bunch of people chip away at an applicant's self-confidence? By virtue of being in the room and having the conversation, they are clearly baseline competent at a number of things. Now, it's just a question of fit and whether their expression of skills is what we're doing right now as a company.At least that's how I see it. And I think that there is a lot of alignment here, not just between our two companies, but between the kinds of companies I look at and can actively recommend that people go and talk to.Kelly: Yeah. I think that emphasis on, it's not just about what a company is doing—like, what is their business, you know, how they're making money—but how they're treating people, like, on their way in and on the way out. I don't think you can oversell how important that is.Corey: Culture is what you wind up with instead of what you intend. And I think that's something that winds up getting lost a fair bit.Kelly: Yeah, culture is definitely not something you can just go buy, right? [laugh], where you can, like—this is what our culture will be.Corey: No, no. But if there is, “Culture-in-a-box. Like, you may not be able to buy it, but I would love to sell it to you,” seems to be the watchwords of a number of different companies out there. Kelly, I really want to thank you for taking the time to speak with me today. If people want to learn more, where can they find you?Kelly: They can find me on Twitter at @drkellyannfitz, that's D-R-K-E-L-L-Y-A-N-N-F-I-T-Z—I apologize for having such a long Twitter handle—or my RedMonk work and of my colleagues, you can find that at redmonk.com.Corey: And we will, of course, include links to that in the [show notes 00:33:14]. Thank you so much for your time. I appreciate it.Kelly: Thanks for having me.Corey: Kelly Fitzpatrick, senior industry analyst at RedMonk. I'm Cloud Economist Corey Quinn, and this is Screaming in the Cloud. If you've enjoyed this podcast, please leave a five-star review on your podcast platform of choice whereas if you've hated this podcast, please leave a five-star review on your podcast platform of choice along with an angry comment telling me how terrible this was and that we should go listen to Reviewer 2's podcast instead.Corey: If your AWS bill keeps rising and your blood pressure is doing the same, then you need The Duckbill Group. 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01:09 - Todd's Superpower: Advocacy For Accessibility * Getting Started * Designing With Web Standards by Jeffrey Zeldman (https://www.amazon.com/Designing-Web-Standards-Jeffrey-Zeldman/dp/0321616952) * The A11Y Project (https://www.a11yproject.com/) * W3C (https://www.w3.org/) 06:18 - Joining The W3C * The W3C Community Page (https://www.w3.org/community/) 07:44 - Getting People/Companies/Stakeholders to Care/Prioritize About Accessibility * Making A Strong Case For Accessibility by Todd Libby (https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2021/07/strong-case-for-accessibility/) * Diplomatic Advocacy * You Don't Want To Get Sued! / $$$ * “We are all temporarily abled.” 15:20 - The Domino's Pizza Story * Supreme Court hands victory to blind man who sued Domino's over site accessibility (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/07/dominos-supreme-court.html) 18:21 - Things That Typically Aren't Accessible And Should Be * The WebAIM Million Report (https://webaim.org/projects/million/) * WCAG (https://www.w3.org/WAI/standards-guidelines/wcag/) * Color Contrast * Missing Alt Text on Images * Form Input Labels * What's New in WCAG 2.1: Label in Name by Todd Libby (https://css-tricks.com/whats-new-in-wcag-2-1-label-in-name/) * Empty Links * Not Using Document Language * Triggering GIFS / Flashing Content * Empty Buttons – Use a Button Element!! * Tab Order * Semantic HTML, Heading Structure 26:27 - Accessibility for Mobile Devices * Target Size * Looking at WCAG 2.5.5 for Better Target Sizes (https://css-tricks.com/looking-at-wcag-2-5-5-for-better-target-sizes/) * Dragging Movements 28:08 - Color Contrast * Contrast Ratio (https://contrast-ratio.com/) 33:02 - Designing w/ Accessibility in Mind From the Very Beginning * Accessibility Advocates on Every Team * Accessibility Training 36:22 - Contrast (Cont'd) 38:11 - Automating Accessibility! * axe-core-gems (https://github.com/dequelabs/axe-core-gems) Reflections: Mae: Eyeballing for contrast. John: We are all only temporarily abled and getting the ball rolling on building accessibility in from the beginning of projects going forward and fixing older codebases. Mandy: Using alt-tags going forward on all social media posts. Todd: Accessibility work will never end. Accessibility is a right not a privilege. This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep (https://twitter.com/therubyrep) of DevReps, LLC (http://www.devreps.com/). To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode (https://www.patreon.com/greaterthancode) To make a one-time donation so that we can continue to bring you more content and transcripts like this, please do so at paypal.me/devreps (https://www.paypal.me/devreps). You will also get an invitation to our Slack community this way as well. Transcript: JOHN: Welcome to Greater Than Code, Episode 251. I'm John Sawers and I'm here with Mae Beale. MAE: Hi, there! And also, Mandy Moore. MANDY: Hi, everyone! I'm Mandy Moore and I'm here today with our guest, Todd Libby. Todd Libby is a professional web developer, designer, and accessibility advocate for 22 years under many different technologies starting with HTML/CSS, Perl, and PHP. Todd has been an avid learner of web technologies for over 40 years starting with many flavors of BASIC all the way to React/Vue. Currently an Accessibility Analyst at Knowbility, Todd is also a member of the W3C. When not coding, you'll usually find Todd tweeting about lobster rolls and accessibility. So before I ask you what your superpower is, I'm going to make a bet and my bet is that I'm 80% positive that your superpower has something to do with lobster rolls. Am I right? [laughter] Am I right? TODD: Well, 80% of the time, you'd be right. I just recently moved to Phoenix, Arizona. So I was actually going to say advocacy for accessibility, but yes, lobster rolls and the consumption of lobster rolls are a big part. MAE: I love it. That's fantastic. MANDY: Okay. Well, tell me about the advocacy. [chuckles] TODD: So it started with seeing family members who are disabled, friends who are disabled, or have family members themselves who are disabled, and the struggles they have with trying to access websites, or web apps on the web and the frustration, the look of like they're about ready to give up. That's when I knew that I would try to not only make my stuff that I made accessible, but to advocate for people in accessibility. MAE: Thank you so much for your work. It is critical. I have personally worked with a number of different populations and started at a camp for children with critical illnesses and currently work at an organization that offers financial services for people with disabilities – well, complex financial needs, which the three target populations that we work with are people with disabilities, people with dementia, and people in recovery. So really excited to talk with you today. Thanks. TODD: You're welcome. JOHN: When you started that journey, did you already have familiarity with accessibility, or was it all just like, “Oh, I get to learn all this stuff so I can start making it better”? TODD: So I fell into it because if you're like me and you started with making table-based layouts way back in the day, because what we had—Mosaic browser, Netscape Navigator, and Internet Explorer—we were making table-based layouts, which were completely inaccessible, but I didn't know that. As the web progressed, I progressed and then I bought a little orange book by Jeffrey Zeldman, Designing with Web Standards, and that pretty much started me on my journey—semantic HTML, progressive enhancement in web standards, and accessibility as well. I tend to stumble into a lot of stuff [laughs] so, and that's a habit of mine. [laughs] MAE: It sounds like it's a good habit and you're using it to help all the other people. So I hate to encourage you to keep stumbling, but by all means. [laughter] Love it. If you were to advise someone wanting to know more about accessibility, would you suggest they start with that same book too, or what would you suggest to someone stumbling around in the dark and not hitting anything yet? TODD: The book is a little outdated. I think the last edition of his book was, I want to say 2018, maybe even further back than that. I would suggest people go on websites like The A11Y project, the a11yproject.com. They have a comprehensive list of resources, links to learning there. Twitter is a good place to learn, to follow people in the accessibility space. The other thing that, if people really want to dive in, is to join The W3C. That's a great place and there's a lot of different groups. You have the CSS Working Group, you have the accessibility side of things, which I'm a part of, the Silver Community Group, which is we're working on the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 3.0, which is still a little ways down the road, but a lot of great people and a lot of different companies. Some of those companies we've heard of—Google, Apple, companies like that all the way down to individuals. Individuals can join as individuals if your company isn't a member of the W3C. So those are the three things that I mainly point to people. If you don't really want to dive into the W3C side of things, there's a lot of resources on the a11yproject.com website that you can look up. MANDY: So what does being a member entail? What do you have to do? Do you have to pay dues? Do you have to do certain projects, maybe start as an individual level, because I'm sure we have mostly individuals listening to the show. Me as a newbie coder, what would I do to get started as a member of this initiative? TODD: Well, I started out as an individual myself, so I joined and I can get you the link to The W3C Community Page. Go to sign up as an individual and someone will approve the form process that you go through—it's nothing too big, it's nothing complicated—and then that will start you on your way. You can join a sub group, you can join a group, a working group, and it doesn't cost an individual. Companies do pay dues to the W3C and if your company is in the W3C, you get ahold of your company's liaison and there's a process they go through to add you to a certain group. Because with me, it was adding me to The Silver Community Group. But as an individual, you can join in, you can hop right into a meeting from there, and then that's basically it. That's how you start. JOHN: What are the challenges you see in getting not only the goals of a W3C, but I'm assuming specifically around accessibility? TODD: Some of the things that I've seen is buy-in from stakeholders is probably the number one hurdle, or barrier. Companies, stakeholders, and board members, they don't think of, or in some cases, they don't care about accessibility until a company is getting sued and that's a shame. That's one of the things that I wrote about; I have an article on Smashing Magazine. Making A Strong Case for Accessibility, it's called and that is one of few things that I've come across. Getting buy-in from stakeholders and getting buy-in from colleagues as well because you have people that they don't think about accessibility, they think about a number of different things. Mostly what I've come across is they don't think about accessibility because there's no budget, or they don't have the time, or the company doesn't have the time. It's not approved by the company. The other thing that is right up there is it's a process—accessibility—making things accessible and most people think that it's a big this huge mountain to climb. If you incorporate accessibility from the beginning of your project, it's so much easier. You don't have to go back and you don't have to climb that mountain because you've waited until the very end. “Oh, we have time now so we'll do the accessibility stuff,” that makes it more hard. MAE: John, your question actually was similar to something I was thinking about with how you developed this superpower and I was going to ask and still will now. [chuckles] How did you afford all the time in the different places where you were overtime to be able to get this focus? And so, how did you make the case along the way and what things did you learn in that persuasion class of life [chuckles] that was able to allow you to have that be where you could focus and spend more time on and have the places where you work prioritize successful? TODD: It was a lot of, I call it diplomatic advocacy. So for instance, the best example I have is I had been hired to make a website, a public facing website, and a SAAS application accessible. The stakeholder I was directly reporting to, we were sitting down in a meeting one day and I said, “Well, I want to make sure that accessibility is the number one priority on these projects,” and he shot back with, “Well, we don't have the disabled users,” and that nearly knocked me back to my chair. [laughs] So that was a surprise. MAE: There's some groaning inside and I had to [chuckles] do it out loud for a moment. Ooh. TODD: Yeah, I did my internal groaning at the meeting so that just was – [chuckles] Yeah, and I remember that day very vividly and I probably will for the rest of my life that I looked at him and I had to stop and think, and I said, “Well, you never know, there's always a chance that you're able, now you could be disabled at any time.” I also pointed out that his eyeglasses that he wore are an assistive technology. So there was some light shed on that and that propelled me even further into advocacy and the accessibility side of things. That meeting really opened my eyes to not everyone is going to get it, not everyone is going to be on board, not everyone is going to think about disabled users; they really aren't. So from there I used that example. I also use what I call the Domino's Pizza card lately because “Oh, you don't want to get sued.' That's my last resort as far as advocacy goes. Other than that, it's showing a videotape of people using their product that are disabled and they can't use it. That's a huge difference maker, when a stakeholder sees that somebody can't use their product. There's numbers out there now that disabled users in this country alone, the United States, make up 25% of the population, I believe. They have a disposable income of $8 trillion. The visually disabled population alone is, I believe it was $1.6 billion, I think. I would have to check that number again, but it's a big number. So the money side of things really gets through to a stakeholder faster than “Well, your eyeglasses are a assistive technology.” So once they hear the financial side of things, their ears perk up real quick and then they maybe get on board. I've never had other than one stakeholder just saying, “No, we're just going to skip that,” and then that company ended up getting sued. So that says a lot, to me anyways. But that's how I really get into it. And then there was a time where I was working for another company. I was doing consulting for them and I was doing frontend mostly. So it was accessibility, but also at the same time, it was more the code side of things. That was in 2018. 2019, I went to a conference in Burlington, Vermont. I saw a friend of mine speaking and he was very passionate about it and that talk, and there was a couple others there as well, it lit that fire under me again, and I jumped right back in and ever since then, it's just then accessibility. MAE: You reminded me one of the arguments, or what did you say? Diplomatic advocacy statements that I have used is that we are all temporarily abled. [chuckles] Like, that's just how it is and seeing things that way we can really shift how you orient to the idea of as other and reduce the othering. But I was also wondering how long it would be before Pizza Hut came up in our combo. [laughter] MANDY: Yeah, I haven't heard of that. Can you tell us what that is? TODD: [chuckles] So it was Domino's and they had a blind user that tried to use their app. He couldn't use their app; their app wasn't accessible. He tried to use the website; the website wasn't accessible. I have a link that I can send over to the whole story because I'm probably getting bits and pieces wrong. But from what I can recall, basically, this user sued Domino's and instead of Domino's spending, I believe it was $36,000 to fix their website and their app, they decided to drag it out for a number of years through court and of course, spent more money than just $36,000. In the end, they lost. I think they tried to appeal to the Supreme Court because they've gone up as high as federal court, but regardless, they lost. They had to – and I don't know if they still have an inaccessible site, or not, or the app for that matter because I don't go to Domino's. But that's basically the story that they had; a user who tried to access the app and the website, couldn't use it, and they got taken to court. Now Domino's claimed, in the court case, that he could have used the telephone, but he had tried to use the telephone twice and was on hold for 45 minutes. So [laughs] that says a lot. JOHN: Looks like it actually did go to the Supreme Court. TODD: Yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong, I think they did not want to hear it. They just said, “No, we're not going to hear the case.” Yeah, and just think about all these apps we use and all the people that can't access those apps, or the websites. I went to some company websites because I was doing some research, big companies, and a lot of them are inaccessible. A little number that I can throw out there: every year, there's been a little over 2,500 lawsuits in the US. This year, if the rate keeps on going that it has, we're on course for over 4,000 lawsuits in the US alone for inaccessible websites. You've had companies like Target, Bank of America, Winn-Dixie, those kinds of companies have been sued by people because of inaccessible sites. MAE: Okay, but may I say this one thing, which is, I just want to extend my apologies to Pizza Hut. [laughter] MANDY: What kinds of things do you see as not being accessible that should be or easily could be that companies just simply aren't doing? TODD: The big one, still and if you go to webaim.org/projects/million, it's The WebAIM Million report. It's an annual accessibility analysis of the top 1 million home pages on the internet. The number one thing again, this year is color contracts. There are guidelines in place. WCAG, which is the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines, that text should be a 4.5:1 ratio that reaches the minimum contrast for texts. It's a lot of texts out there that doesn't even reach that. So it's color contrast. You'll find a lot of, if you look at—I'm looking at the chart right now—missing alt texts on images. If you have an image that is informative, or you have an image that is conveying something to a user, it has to have alternative text describing what's in the picture. You don't have to go into a long story about what's in the picture and describe it thoroughly; you can just give a quick overview as to what the picture is trying to convey, what is in the picture. And then another one being another failure type a is form input labels; labels that are not labeled correctly. I wrote a article about that [chuckles] on CSS-Tricks and that is, there's programmatic and there's accessible names for form labels that not only help the accessibility side of it, as far as making the site accessible, but also it helps screen reader users read forms and navigate through forms, keyboard users also. Then you have empty links and then a big one that I've seen lately is if you look up in the source code, you see the HTML tag, and the language attribute, a lot of sites now, because they use trademarks, they don't have a document language. I ran across a lot of sites that don't use a document language. They're using a framework. I won't name names because I'm not out to shame, but having that attribute helps screen reader users and I think that's a big thing. A lot of accessibility, people don't understand. People use screen readers, or other assistive technologies, for instance, Dragon NaturallySpeaking voice input. But at the same time, I've got to also add accessibility is more than just deaf, or blind. I suffer from migraines, migraine headaches so animation, or motion from say, parallax scrolling can trigger a migraine. Animations that are too fast, that also trigger migraine headache. You have flashing content that can potentially cause seizures and that's actually happened before where an animated GIF was intentionally sent to someone and it caused a seizure and almost killed the person. So there's those and then the last thing on this list that I'm looking at right now, and these are common failures, empty buttons. You have buttons that don't have labels. Buttons that have Click here. Buttons need to be descriptive. So you want to have – on my site to send me something on the contact form, it's Send this info to Todd, Click here, or something similar like that. MAE: Can you think of any, John that you know of, too? I've got a couple of mind. How about you, Mandy? MANDY: For me, because I'm just starting out, I don't know a whole lot about accessibility. That's why I'm here; I'm trying to learn. But I am really conscious and careful of some of the GIFs that I use, because I do know that some of the motion ones, especially really fast-moving ones, can cause problems, migraines, seizures for people. So when posting those, I'm really, really mindful about it. JOHN: Yeah, the Click here one is always bothers me too, because not only is it bad accessibility, it's bad UX. Like HTML loves you to turn anything into a link so you can make all the words inside the button and it's just fine. [laughs] There's so many other ways to do it that are just – even discounting the accessibility impact, which I don't want it. TODD: Yeah, and touching upon that, I'm glad you brought up the button because I was just going to let that go [chuckles] past me. I have to say and I think it was in the email where it said, “What's bothering you?” What bothers me is people that don't use the button. If you are using a div, or an anchor tag, or a span, stop it. [laughs] Just stop it. There's a button element for that. I read somewhere that anchor tag takes you somewhere, a div is a container, but button is for a button. MAE: I love that. The only other ones I could think of is related to something you said, making sure to have tab order set up properly to allow people to navigate. Again, I liked your point about you don't have to be fully blind to benefit from these things and having keyboard accessibility can benefit a lot of people for all kinds of reasons. The other one is, and I would love to hear everybody's thoughts on this one, I have heard that we're supposed to be using h1, h2, h3 and having proper setup of our HTML and most of us fail just in that basic part. That's another way of supporting people to be able to navigate around and figure out what's about to be on this page and how much should I dig into it? So more on non-visual navigation stuff. TODD: Yeah, heading structure is hugely important for keyboard users and screen reader users as well as tab order and that's where semantic HTML comes into play. If you're running semantic HTML, HTML by default, save for a few caveats, is accessible right out of the box. If your site and somebody can navigate through using let's say, the keyboard turns and they can navigate in a way that is structurally logical, for instance and it has a flow to it that makes sense, then they're going to be able to not only navigate that site, but if you're selling something on that site, you're going to have somebody buying something probably. So that's again, where tab order and heading structure comes into play and it's very important. JOHN: I would assume, and correct me if I'm wrong, or if you know this, that the same sort of accessibility enhancements are available in native mobile applications that aren't using each HTML, is that correct? TODD: Having not delved into the mobile side of things with apps myself, that I really can't answer. I can say, though, that the WCAG guidelines, that does pertain to mobile as well as desktop. There's no certain set of rules. 2.2 is where there are some new features that from mobile, for instance, target size and again, I wrote another article on CSS-Tricks about target size as well. So it's if you ever noticed those little ads that you just want to click off and get off your phone and they have those little tiny Xs and you're sitting there tapping all day? Those are the things target size and dragging movements as well. I did an audit for an app and there was a lot of buttons that were not named. A lot of the accessibility issues I ran into were the same as I would run into doing an audit on a website. I don't know anything about Swift, or Flutter, or anything like that, they pretty much fall into the same category with [inaudible] as far as accessible. JOHN: I also wanted to circle back on the first item that you listed as far as the WebAIM million thing was color contrast, which is one of those ones where a designer comes up with something that looks super cool and sleek, but it's dark gray on a light gray background. It looks great when you've got perfect eyesight, but anybody else, they're just like, “Oh my God, what's that?” That's also one of the things that's probably easiest to change site-wide; it's like you go in and you tweak the CSS and you're done in a half hour and you've got the whole site updated. So it's a great bit of low-hanging fruit that you can attach if you want to start on this process. TODD: Yeah. Color contrast is of course, as the report says, this is the number one thing and let me look back here. It's slowly, the numbers are dropping, but 85.3%, that's still a very high number of failures and there's larger text. If you're using anything over 18 pixels, or the equivalent of 18—it's either 18 points, or 18 pixels—is a 3:1 ratio. With that color contrast is how our brains perceive color. It's not the actual contrast of that color and there are people far more qualified than me going to that, or that can go into that. So what I'll say is I've seen a lot of teams and companies, “Yeah, we'll do a little over 4.5:1 and we'll call it a day.” But I always say, if you can do 7:1, or even 10:1 on your ratios and you can find a way to make your brand, or whatever the same, then go for it. A lot of the time you hear, “Well, we don't want to change the colors of our brand.” Well, your colors of your brand aren't accessible to somebody who that has, for instance, Tritanopia, which is, I think it's blues and greens are very hard to see, or they don't see it at all. Color deficiencies are a thing that design teams aren't going to check for. They're just not. Like you said, all these colors look awesome so let's just, we're going to go with that on our UI. That's one thing that I actually ran into on that SAAS product that I spoke about earlier was there was these colors and these colors were a dark blue, very muted dark blue with orange text. You would think the contrast would be oh yeah, they would be all right, but it was horrible. JOHN: You can get browser plugins, that'll show you what the page looks like. So you can check these things yourself. Like you can go in and say, “Oh, you're right. That's completely illegible.” TODD: Yeah. Firefox, like I have right here on my work machine. I have right here Firefox and it does this. There's a simulator for a visual color deficiencies. It also checks for contrast as well. Chrome has one, which it actually has a very cool eyedropper to check for color contrast. If you use the inspector also in Firefox, that brings up a little contrast thing. The WAVE extension has a contrast tool. There's also a lot of different apps. If you have a Mac, like I do, I have too many color contrast because I love checking out these color contrast apps. So I have about five different color contrast apps on my Mac, but there's also websites, too that you can use at the same time. Just do a search for polar contrast. Contrast Ratio, contrast-ratio.com, is from Lea Verou. I use that one a lot. A lot of people use that one. There's so many of them out there choose from, but they are very handy tool at designer's disposal and at developers' disposal as well. JOHN: So I'm trying to think of, like I was saying earlier, the color contrast one is one of those things that's probably very straightforward; you can upgrade your whole site in a short amount of time. Color contrast is a little trickier because it gets into branding and marketing's going to want to care about it and all that kind of stuff. So you might have a bit more battle around that, but it could probably be done and you might be able to fix, at least the worst parts of the page that have problems around that. So I'm just trying to think of the ways that you could get the ball rolling on this kind of a work. Like if you can get those early easy wins, it's going to get more people on board with the process and not saying like, “Oh, it's going to take us eight months and we have to go through every single page and change it every forum.” That sounds really daunting when you think about it and so, trying to imagine what those easy early wins are that can get people down that road. TODD: Yeah. Starting from the very outset of the project is probably the key one: incorporating accessibility from the start of the project. Like I said earlier, it's a lot easier when you do it from the start rather than waiting till the very end, or even after the product has been launched and you go back and go, “Oh, well, now we need to fix it.” You're not only putting stress on your teams, but it's eating up time and money because you're now paying everybody to go back and look at all these accessibility issues there. Having one person as a dedicated accessibility advocate on each team helps immensely. So you have one person on the development team, one person on the dev side, one person on the marketing team, starting from the top. If somebody goes there to a stakeholder and says, “Listen, we need to start incorporating accessibility from the very start, here's why,” Nine times out of ten, I can guarantee you, you're probably going to get that stakeholder onboard. That tenth time, you'll have to go as far as maybe I did and say, “Well, Domino's Pizza, or Bank of America, or Target.” Again, their ears are going to perk up and they're going to go, “Oh, well, I don't really, we don't want to get sued.” So that, and going back to having one person on each team: training. There are so many resources out there for accessibility training. There are companies out there that train, there are companies that you can bring in to the organization that will train, that'll help train. That's so easier than what are we going to do? A lot of people just sitting there in a room and go, “How are you going to do this?” Having that person in each department getting together with everybody else, that's that advocate for each department, meeting up and saying, “Okay, we're going to coordinate. You're going to put out a fantastic product that's going to be accessible and also, at the same time, the financial aspect is going to make the company money. But most of all, it's going to include a lot of people that are normally not included if you're putting out an accessible product.” Because if you go to a certain website, I can guarantee you it's going to be inaccessible—just about 99% of the web isn't accessible—and it's going to be exclusive as it's going to – somebody is going to get shut out of the site, or app. So this falls on the applications as well. Another thing too, I just wanted to throw in here for color contrast. There are different – you have color contrast text, but you also have non-text contrast, you have texts in images, that kind of contrast as well and it does get a little confusing. Let's face it, the guidelines right now, it's a very technically written – it's like a technical manual. A lot of people come up to me and said, “I can't read this. I can't make sense of this. Can you translate this?” So hopefully, and this is part of the work that I'm doing with a lot of other people in the W3C is where making the language of 3.0 in plain language, basically. It's going to be a lot easier to understand these guidelines instead of all that technical jargon. I look at something right now and I'm scratching my head when I'm doing an audit going, “Okay, what do they mean by this?” All these people come together and we agree on what to write. What is the language that's going to go into this? So when they got together 2.0, which was years and years ago, they said, “Okay, this is going to be how we're going to write this and we're going to publish this,” and then we had a lot of people just like me scratching their heads of not understanding it. So hopefully, and I'm pretty sure, 99.9% sure that it's going to be a lot easier for people to understand. MAE: That sounds awesome. And if you end up needing a bunch of play testers, I bet a lot of our listeners would be totally willing to put in some time. I know I would. Just want to put in one last plug for anybody out there who really loves automating things and is trying to avoid relying on any single developer, or designer, or QA person to remember to check for accessibility is to build it into your CI/CD pipeline. There are a lot of different options. Another approach to couple with that, or do independently is to use the axe core gems, and that link will be in the show notes, where it'll allow you to be able to sprinkle in your tests, accessibility checks on different pieces. So if we've decided we're going to handle color contrast, cool, then it'll check that. But if we're not ready to deal with another point of accessibility, then we can skip it. So it's very similar to Robocop. Anyway, just wanted to offer in some other tips and tricks of the trade to be able to get going on accessibility and then once you get that train rolling, it can do a little better, but it is hard to start from scratch. JOHN: That's a great tip, Mae. Thank you. TODD: Yeah, definitely. MANDY: Okay. Well, with that, I think it's about time we head into reflections; the point of the show, where we talk about something that we thought stood out, that we want to think about more, or a place that we can call for a call of action to our listeners, or even to ourselves. Who wants to go first? MAE: I can go first. I learned something awesome from you, Todd, which I have not thought of before, which is if I am eyeballing for “contrast,” especially color contrast, that's not necessarily what that means. I really appreciate learning that and we'll definitely be applying that in my daily life. [chuckles] So thanks for teaching me a whole bunch of things, including that. TODD: You're welcome. JOHN: I think for me, it's just the continuing reminder to – I do like the thinking that, I think Mae have brought up and also Todd was talking about earlier at the beginning about how we're all of us temporarily not disabled and that I think it helps bring some of that empathy a little closer to us. So it makes it a little more accessible to us to realize that it's going to happen to us at some point, at some level, and to help then bring that empathy to the other people who are currently in that state and really that's, I think is a useful way of thinking about it. Also, the idea that I've been thinking through as we've been talking about this is how do we get the ball rolling on this? We have an existing application that's 10 years old that's going to take a lot to get it there, but how do we get the process started so we feel like we're making progress there rather than just saying, “Oh, we did HTML form 27 out of 163. All right, back at it tomorrow.” It's hard to think about, so feeling like there's progress is a good thing. TODD: Yeah, definitely and as we get older, our eyes, they're one of the first things to go. So I'm going to need assistive technology at some point so, yeah. And then what you touched upon, John. It may be daunting having to go back and do the whole, “Okay, what are we going to do for accessibility now that this project, it's 10 years old, 15 years old?” The SAAS project that I was talking about, it was 15-year-old code, .net. I got people together; one from each department. We all got together and we ended up making that product accessible for them. So it can be done. [laughs] It can be done. JOHN: That's actually a good point. Just hearing about successes in the wild with particularly hard projects is a great thing. Because again, I'm thinking about it at the start of our project and hearing that somebody made it all through and maybe even repeatedly is hard. TODD: Yeah. It's not something that once it's done, it's done. Accessibility, just like the web, is an ever-evolving media. MANDY: For me. I think my reflection is going to be, as a new coder, I do want to say, I'm glad that we talked about a lot of the things that you see that aren't currently accessible that can be accessible. One of those things is using alt tags and right now, I know when I put the social media posts out on Twitter, I don't use the alt tags and I should. So just putting an alt tag saying, “This is a picture of our guest, Todd” and the title of the show would probably be helpful for some of our listeners. So I'm going to start doing that. So thank you. TODD: You're welcome. I'm just reminded of our talk and every talk that I have on a podcast, or with anybody just reminds me of the work that I have to do and the work that is being done by a lot of different people, other than myself as well, as far as advocacy goes in that I don't think it's ever going to be a job that will ever go away. There will always be a need for accessibility advocacy for the web and it's great just to be able to sit down and talk to people about accessibility and what we need to do to make the web better and more inclusive for everybody. Because I tweet out a lot, “Accessibility is a right, not a privilege,” and I really feel that to my core because the UN specifically says that the internet is a basic human and I went as far as to go say, “Well, so as an accessibility of that internet as well.” So that is my reflection. MAE: I'll add an alt tag for me right now is with a fist up and a big smile and a lot of enthusiasm in my heart. MANDY: Awesome. Well, thank you so much for coming on the show, Todd. It's been really great talking with you and I really appreciate you coming on the show to share with us your knowledge and your expertise on the subject of accessibility. So with that, I will close out the show and say we do have a Slack and Todd will be invited to it if he'd like to talk more to us and the rest of the Greater Than Code community. You can visit patreon.com/greaterthancode and pledge to support us monthly and again, if you cannot afford that, or do not want to pledge to help run the show, you can DM anyone of us and we will get you in there for free because we want to make the Slack channel accessible for all. Have a great week and we'll see you next time. Goodbye! Special Guest: Todd Libby.

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In this episode, we jump straight into Jeff getting yelled at by his niece because he messes up her minecraft server, which leads us into Oregon Trail, Netscape Navigator, and naturally touch on some Loki Predictions!! Save the best for last with us ranting about Sony messing it all up and just making horrible decisions. Be sure to leave us your feedback on all things social media @sidequestpod , subscribe to our YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC74L5TxpGtULTPsMr1QpXoQ/featured , and head to www.sidequestpod.com for all the latest! --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/side-quest-pod/support

Welcome to Bits, your daily tech news bulletin, for Thursday, May 20, I'm Seamus Byrne.Microsoft has announced a year long process for taking Internet Explorer off life support. In August, Microsoft 365 will stop supporting Internet Explorer, and on June 15, 2022, most versions of Windows 10 will officially put the 25 year old web browser out to pasture. IE arose in the '90s to beat the OG dominant integrated browser, Netscape Navigator. Microsoft Edge is already considered the new home for default browsing on Windows 10, and it will include an Internet Explorer emulation mode for those who really, really need one.https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2021/05/19/the-future-of-internet-explorer-on-windows-10-is-in-microsoft-edge/Meanwhile, at Google, the Chrome browser is soon to test the inclusion of a 'Follow' feature that will allow users to get updates direct to the new tab page from websites with RSS feeds. Yes, many may remember that Google killed its beloved Google Reader back in 2013, and now in 2021 it's bringing back an RSS Reader direct within Chrome. If you haven't been using RSS lately, it's still alive and well thanks to great tools like Feedly, though some sites have stopped offering RSS altogether, sadly. But not Byteside - smash that follow button when it appears in a browser near you.https://9to5google.com/2021/05/19/chrome-follow-rss-feed/Twitter has released the results of an investigation into whether its cropping algorithms had an inherent racial bias and found that it really did preference white people and women. In recent weeks, Twitter made a move to support showing the full image in a tweet instead of offering a crop at all, and it turns out this is because the company considered its options and decided no crop was better than sticking with an algorithmic bias in its cropping tool. Twitter's Director of Software Engineering, Rumman Chowdhury, said "One of our conclusions is that not everything on Twitter is a good candidate for an algorithm." Listen up, Silicon Valley.https://blog.twitter.com/engineering/en_us/topics/insights/2021/sharing-learnings-about-our-image-cropping-algorithm.htmlSpotify has announced a series of five pre-recorded live concerts set to take place every week for five weeks starting May 27. The concerts will be offered as a livestream only and users will need to buy tickets to attend the virtual performances, priced at $19 each. Bands include The Black Keys, Bleachers, girl in red, Rag'n'Bone Man, and Leon Bridges. It's an interesting experiment, and in similar fashion Zoom has announced the launch of paid virtual events to allow organisations to hold conventions and conferences via its platform, with ticketing and registration processes as well as multi-session planning and virtual lobbies for networking. The effort to make online events more like the real world continues apace.https://newsroom.spotify.com/2021-05-19/must-see-your-favorite-artists-perform-with-spotifys-virtual-concert-experience/https://blog.zoom.us/coming-soon-zoom-events-virtual-experiences/Apple has announced a wide set of software updates to expand its already impressive accessibility offerings for users of its products. Updates include SignTime, which will allow users to book a sign language call via video link for online shopping and support, and iPad eye tracking to allow for device control with eye movement. A new AssistiveTouch mode is being added to Apple Watch that will allow a cursor to control the screen via subtle muscular movements. And there's even a new Background Sounds mode to play white noise or other subtle sounds for neurodiverse folks who prefer to have distracting noises reduced. New VoiceOver support for images, and new Memoji to show people with Cochlear implants or oxygen tubes, plus more. All up a very impressive accessibility... See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

We knocked the damn power out on half the room.  Kid and Kleen make best of the situation as we scramble to go live in this episode of the Podcast.  Topics covered include High Society magazine, nipple coverage, Netscape Navigator, a mashup of Huey and Metallica along with fake guns on asians and being greedy fuckers.  We wrap with a new sesame street song and ways to steal that are not very effective. Listen in. Go Deep.  DETAILED TIMELINE  1:00 Crotchless bikini bottoms 2:00 Rigging some shit up electrically  3:00 Fuck Youtube  4:00 Covering High Society nipples  5:00 Girls splattering  6:00 Netscape Navigator   7:00 What's happening right now  8:00 Kleen trying to think  9:00 Lower ab area destroyed  10:00 The Kid List - Song Time   11:00 Huey Lewis Metallica mashup 12:00 Go check that bullshit out  13:00 Beer from our favorite brewery  14:00 Stop using a surface WTF is a surface  15:00 Kleen dating with the fake tits  16:00 Umpy's cousins with the fake tits 17:00 Assignment america - Missy Paragrim  18:00 Atlanta teen greedy as fuck   19:00 Retirement plan is the lotto  20:00 System to steal   21:00 Greedy fucker  22:00 What a fucking idiot   23:00 Less of a fuck  24:00 6 pack and a jerk  25:00 Arnold classic - hot bitches  26:00 Are you sure Kleen  27:00 Hail Satan with Ava Devine  28:00 WTF - I don't give a fuck  29:00 Final Words - Pretty Wild guy  Go Deep.

El buscador de Apple, la alternativa a Google Lanza nota de prensa con tu nombre desde borjagiron.com/comunicae 1. Rumores. Bing no lo ha conseguido en años ni comprando Yahoo!. 2. Llegará. Google le paga a Apple unos 8-12 mil millones de dólares cada año para que sea el motor de búsqueda predeterminado en los dispositivos iOS 3. La gente cambia porque busca en la barra superior 4. Si el diseño es parecido los usuarios ni se enteran 5. Mi padre buscaba en Bing 6. Muchos usan Chrome otros el que sale "Internet" 7. Nadie pensaba que dejaríamos de usar Netscape Navigator, Internet Explorer, luego Firefox, Luego Chrome 8. Google sigue ofreciendo mejores resultados pero empieza a fallar 9. Además mucha publicidad. 10. Avaricia. 11. Los SEOs cada vez más difícil. 12. Resultados del propio Google. 13. Oportunidad. Nuevo concepto. Búsquedas por voz. Nueva tendencia. Cloud. En la nube. ¡Por Internet con login! ¡Sin instalación! Es más simple. 14. https://www.lavanguardia.com/tecnologia/20201029/4967475535/apple-desarrolla-buscador-alternativo-google.html 15. Carga infinita en lavanguardia! Cambio de url según bajas. Multiplica páginas vistas. 16. Applebot, el agente de búsqueda de Apple 17. https://duckduckgo.com/ muy buena alternativa. Crece mucho en todo el mundo en Google Trends desde verano 2018. Privacidad.

El buscador de Apple, la alternativa a GoogleLanza nota de prensa con tu nombre desde borjagiron.com/comunicae 1. Rumores. Bing no lo ha conseguido en años ni comprando Yahoo!.2. Llegará. Google le paga a Apple unos 8-12 mil millones de dólares cada año para que sea el motor de búsqueda predeterminado en los dispositivos iOS3. La gente cambia porque busca en la barra superior4. Si el diseño es parecido los usuarios ni se enteran5. Mi padre buscaba en Bing6. Muchos usan Chrome otros el que sale "Internet"7. Nadie pensaba que dejaríamos de usar Netscape Navigator, Internet Explorer, luego Firefox, Luego Chrome8. Google sigue ofreciendo mejores resultados pero empieza a fallar9. Además mucha publicidad.10. Avaricia.11. Los SEOs cada vez más difícil.12. Resultados del propio Google.13. Oportunidad. Nuevo concepto. Búsquedas por voz. Nueva tendencia. Cloud. En la nube. ¡Por Internet con login! ¡Sin instalación! Es más simple.14. https://www.lavanguardia.com/tecnologia/20201029/4967475535/apple-desarrolla-buscador-alternativo-google.html 15. Carga infinita en lavanguardia! Cambio de url según bajas. Multiplica páginas vistas.16. Applebot, el agente de búsqueda de Apple17. https://duckduckgo.com/ muy buena alternativa. Crece mucho en todo el mundo en Google Trends desde verano 2018. Privacidad.

Roman Mirakhmedov takes Morley and the Eagle Team through a presentation about Cloud Computing, including what it is, what kinds of people work on cloud projects, what IT roles support cloud, what hiring managers are looking for in a cloud professional and how to identify the top experts.   Skip right to the interview: 00:02:08 Following along: Download the accompanying presentation   About Roman Roman Mirakhmedov is a cloud, software, artificial intelligence and machine learning architect who has been in the software landscape for more than 20 years. He has been developing software since the age of 10, participated in the development of IBM AIX, Java and Netscape Navigator, and built products in a variety of domains from instant messaging to spatial graphics and ternary computing. Roman is certified across multiple cloud platforms; he is one of the very few people in the world to hold all AWS certifications, and is a Partner and Principal Architect with Lean Minds. Connect with Roman: LinkedIn Twitter Medium

In 1994, the first commercial internet browser was released. Netscape Navigator went on to be eclipsed by Internet Explore, Safari, Firefox, and now Chrome, but it helped kick start the internet-focused world we live in today. And along with that we've also learned a lot about browser security.   No matter how strong we build our browsers, that does not prevent hackers from trying to break new things. In this episode, one researcher explains how he successfully escaped the Chrome sandbox, and how bug bounties might just be a good thing resulting in better security for us all. 

Welcome to the History of Computing Podcast, where we explore the history of information technology. Because understanding the past prepares us for the innovations of the future! Today we're going to look at Java. Java is an Indonesian island with over 141 million people. Java man lived there 1.7 million years ago. Wait, wrong java. The infiltration of coffee into the modern world can really trace its roots to ancient coffee forests on the Ethiopian plateau. Sufis in Yemen began importing coffee in the 1400s to make a beverage that would aid in concentration and as a kind of spiritual intoxication. Um, still the wrong java… Although caffeine certainly has a link somewhere, somehow. The history of the Java programming language dates back to early 1991. It all started at Sun Microsystems with the Stealth Project. Patrick Naughton had considered going to NeXT due to limitations in C++ and the C APIs. But he stayed to join Stealth, a secret team of engineers led by a developer Sun picked up from Carnegie Mellon named James Gosling . Stealth was formed to explore new opportunities in the consumer electronics market. This came up when Gosling was writing a program to port software from perf to vax and emulating hardware as many, many, many programers had done before him. I wonder if he realized when he went to build the first Java compiler and the original virtual machine code that would go on to write a dozen books about Java and it would consume most of his professional life. I wonder how much coffee he would have consumed if he had. They soon added Patrick Sheridan to the team. The project was later known as the “Green” project and with the advent of the web, somewhat pivoted into more of a web project. You see, Microsoft and the clones had some runaway success but Apple and other vendors were a factor in the home market. But Sun saw going down market as the future of the company. They added a few more people and rented separate offices in Menlo Park. Lisa Friendly was the first employee in the Java Products Group. Gosling would be lead engineer. John Gage would direct the project. Jonni Kanerva would write Java FAQ1. The team started to build C++ ++ —. Sun founder Bill Joy wanted a language that combined the the best parts of Mesa and C. In 1993, NCSA gave us Mozilla. That Andreessen guy was on the news saying the era of the desktop was over. These brilliant designers knew they needed an embedded application, one that could even be used in a web browser, or an applet. The language was initially called “Oak,” but was later renamed “Java” in 1995, supposedly from a list of random words but really due to massive consumption of coffee imported from the island of Java. By the way, it only aids in concentration up to a point. Then you get jumpy. Like a Halfling. It took the Java team 18 months to develop the first working version. It is unknown how much Java they drank in this time. Between the initial implementation of Oak in the fall of 1992 and the public announcement of Java in the spring of 1995, around 13 people ended up contributing to the design and evolution of the language. They were going to build a language that could sit on top of the operating systems on the market. This would allow them to be platform agnostic. In 1995, the team announced that the evolution of Mosaic, Netscape Navigator, would provide support for Java. Java gave us Write Once, Run Anywhere platform independence. You could run the code on a Mac, on Solaris, or on Windows. Java derives its syntax from C and many of the object oriented features were influenced by C++. Several of Java's defining characteristics come from—or are responses to—its predecessors. Therefore, Java was meant to build on these and become a simple, object-oriented, distributed, interpreted, robust, secure, architectural neutral, portable, high performance, multithreaded, and dynamic language. Before I forget. The "Mocha Java" blend pairs coffee from Yemen and Java to get a thick, syrupy, and highly caffeinated blend that is often found with a hint of cinnamon or clove. Similar to all other computer language, all innovation in the design of the language was driven by the need to solve a fundamental problem that the preceding languages could not solve. To start, the creation of C is considered by many to have marked the beginning of the modern age of computer languages. It successfully synthesized the conflicting attributes that had so troubled earlier languages. The result was a powerful, efficient, structured language that was relatively easy to learn. It also included one other, nearly intangible aspect: it was a programmer's language. Prior to the invention of C, computer languages were generally designed either as academic exercises or by bureaucratic committees. C was designed, implemented, and developed by real, working programmers, reflecting how they wanted to write code. Its features were honed, tested, thought about, and rethought by the people who actually used the language. C quickly attracted many followers who had a near-religious zeal for it. As such, it found wide and rapid acceptance in the programmer community. In short, C is a language designed by and for programmers, as is Java. Throughout the history of programming, the increasing complexity of programs has driven the need for better ways to manage that complexity. C++ is a response to that need in C. To better understand why managing program complexity is fundamental to the creation of C++, consider that in the early days of programming, computer programing was done by manually toggling in the binary machine instructions by use of the front panel or punching cards. As long as programs were just a few hundred instructions long, this worked. Then came Assembly and Fortran and then But as programs grew, assembly language was invented so that a programmer could deal with larger, increasingly complex programs by using symbolic representations of the machine instructions. As programs continued to grow, high-level languages were introduced that gave the programmer more tools with which to handle complexity. This gave birth to the first popular programing language; FORTRAN. Though impressive it had its shortcomings as it didn't encourage clear and easy-to-understand programs. In the 1960s structured programming was born. This is the method of programming championed by languages such as C. The use of structured languages enabled programmers to write, for the first time, moderately complex programs fairly easily. However, even with structured programming methods, once a project reaches a certain size, its complexity exceeds what a programmer can manage. Due to continued growth, projects were exceeding the limits of the structured approach. To overcome this problem, a new way to program had to be invented; it is called object-oriented programming (OOP). Object-oriented programming (OOP) is a programming methodology that helps organize complex programs through the use of inheritance, encapsulation, and polymorphism. In spite of the fact that C is one of the world's great programming languages, there is still a limit to its ability to handle complexity. Once the size of a program exceeds a certain point, it becomes so complex that it is difficult to grasp as a totality. While the precise size at which this occurs differs, depending upon both the nature of the program and the programmer, there is always a threshold at which a program becomes unmanageable. C++ added features that enabled this threshold to be broken, allowing programmers to comprehend and manage larger programs. So if the primary motivation for creating Java was the need for a platform-independent, architecture-neutral language, it was to create software to be embedded in various consumer electronic devices, such as microwave ovens and remote controls. The developers sought to use a different system to develop the language one which did not require a compiler as C and C++ did. A solution which was easier and more cost efficient. But embedded systems took a backseat when the Web took shape at about the same time that Java was being designed. Java was suddenly propelled to the forefront of computer language design. This could be in the form of applets for the web or runtime-only packages known as Java Runtime Environments, or JREs. At the time, developers had fractured into the three competing camps: Intel, Macintosh, and UNIX. Most software engineers stayed in their fortified boundary. But with the advent of the Internet and the Web, the problem that the portability of software between platforms suddenly got important in ways it hadn't been since the forming of ARPANET. Even though many platforms are attached to the Internet, users would like them all to be able to run the same program. What was once an irritating but low-priority problem had become a high-profile necessity. The team realized this pressing need and later made the switch to refocus Java from embedded, consumer electronics to Internet programming. So while the desire for an architecture-neutral programming language provided the initial spark, the Internet ultimately led to Java's large-scale success. So if Java derives much of its character from C and C++, this is by intent. The original designers knew that using familiar syntax would make their new language appealing to legions of experienced C/C++ programmers. Java also shares some of the other attributes that helped make C and C++ successful. Java was designed, tested, and refined by real, working programmers. Not scientists. Java is a programmer's language. Java is also cohesive and logically consistent. If you program well, your programs reflect it. If you program poorly, your programs reflect that, too. Put differently, Java is not a language with training wheels. It is a language for professional programmers. Java 1 would be released in 1996 for Solaris, Windows, Mac, and Linux. It was released as the Java Development Kit, or JDK, and to this day we still refer to the version we're using as JDK 11. Version 2, or 1.2 came in 1998 and with the rising popularity we had a few things that the burgeoning community needed. These included event listeners, Just In Time compilers, and change thread synchronizations. 1.3, code named Kestrel came in 2000, bringing RMI for CORBA compatibility, synthetic proxy classes, the Java Platform Debugger Architecture, Java Naming and Directory Interface in core libraries, the HostSpot JVM, and Java Sound. Merlin, or 1.4 came in 2002 bringing the frustrating regular expressions, native XML processing, logging, Non-Blocking I/O, and SSL. Tiger, or 1.5 came in 2004. This was important. We could autobox, get compile time type safety in generics, static import the static part of a class, annotations for declarative programming, and run time libraries were mapped into memory - a huge improvements to how JVMs work. Java 5 also gave us the version number change. So JDK 1.5 was officially recognized as Java 5. JDK 1.6, or Mustang, came in 2006. This was a big update, bringing monitoring and management tools, compiler access gave us programmatic access to javac and pluggable annotations allowed us to analyze code semantically as a step before javac compiles the code. WebStart got a makeover and SE 6 unified plugins with webstart. Enhanced XML services would be important (at least until he advent of son) and you could mix javascript up with Java. We also got JDBC 4, Character Large Objects, SwingWorker, JTable, better SQL datatypes, native PKI, Kerberos, LDAP, and honestly the most important thing was that it was stable. Although I've never written code stable enough to encounter their stability issues… Not enough coffee I suppose. Sun purchased Oracle in 2009. Wait, no, that's one of my Marvel What If comic book fantasies where the world was a better place. Oracle bought Sun in 2009. After ponying up $5.6 billion dollars, Oracle had a lot of tech based on Sun products and seeing Sun as an increasingly attractive acquisition target by other companies, Oracle couldn't risk someone else swooping in and buying Sun. With all the turmoil created, it took 5 years during a pretty formative time on the web, but we finally got Dolphin, or 1.7, which came in 2011 and gave us compressed, 64-bit pointers, strings in switch statements, the ability to make a binary integer and use underscores in literals, better graphics APIs, more cryptography algorithms, and a new I/O library that gave even better platform compatibilities. Spider, or 1.8, came along in 2014. We got the ability to Launch JavaFX application Jars, statically-linked JNI libraries, a new date an time API, annotation for java types, unsigned integer arithmetic, a JavaScript runtime that allowed us to embed Javascript code in apps - whether this is a good idea or not is still tbd. Lambda functions had been dropped in Java 7 so here we also got lambda expressions. And this kickstarted a pretty interesting time in the development of Java. We got 9 in 2017, 10 and 11 in 2018, 12, 13, and 14 in 2019. Of these, only 8 and 11 are LTS, or commercial Long Term Support releases, basically meaning we got the next major release after 8 in 2018 and according to my trend line should expect the next LTS in 2021 or 2022. JDK 13, when released later in 2019, will give us text blocks, Switch Expressions, improved memory management by returning unused heap memory to the OS, improves application class and data sharing, and brings back the legacy socket API. But it won't likely be an LTS release. Today there are over 45 billion active Java Virtual Machines and java remains arguably the top language for micro service, ci/cd environments, and a number of other use cases. Other languages have come. Other languages have gone. Many are better in their own right. Some are not. Java is not perfect. It was meant to reduce complexity. But as languages evolve they become more complex. A project with a million lines of code is monolithic and probably incorporates plugins or frameworks like spring security as an example, that make code even more complex. But Java is meant to reduce cyclomatic complexity, to allow for a language that is simple enough for a professional to pick up quickly and only be as complex as the quality of the code being compiled. I don't personally love Java. I respect it. And I adore high-quality programmers and their code in any language. But I've had to redo so much work because other languages have come and gone over the years that if I were to be starting a new big monolithic web-app today, I'd probably use Java every time. Which isn't to say that Java isn't useful in micro-service architectures. According to what's required from the contract testing on a service, I might use Java, Go, node, python or even the formerly hipster Ruby. Although I don't love drinking PBR… If I'm writing an Android app, I need to know Java. No matter what the lawyers say. If I'm planning on an enterprise webapp, Java needs to be in the conversation. But usually, I can do the work in a fraction of the time using something like python. But most big companies speak Java. And for good reason. Because of the write once run anywhere approach and the level of permissions a JRE needs, there have been security challenges with running Java on desktop computers. Apple deprecated Java on the Mac in 2010. Users could still instal lications and is the gold standard for those. I'm certainly not advocating going back to the 90s and running Java apps on our desktops any more. No matter what you think of Java, one thing you have to admit, the introduction of the language and the evolution have had a substantial impact on the IT industry and it will continue to do so. A great takeaway here might be that there's always a potential alternative that might be better suited for a given task. But when it comes to choosing a platform that will be there in a decade or 3, getting support, getting a team that can scale, sometimes you might end up using a solution that doesn't immediately seem as well suited to a need. But it can get the job done. As it's been doing since James Gosling and the rest of the team started the project back in the early 90s. So thank you listeners, for sticking with us through this episode of the History of Computing Podcast. We're lucky to have you.

Welcome to the History of Computing Podcast, where we explore the history of information technology. Because by understanding the past, we're able to be prepared for the innovations of the future! Today we're going to look at the emergence of the web through the lens of Netscape, the browser that pushed everything forward into the mainstream. The Netscape story starts back at the University of Illinois, Champaign-Urbana where the National Center for Supercomputing Applications (or NCSA) inspired Marc Andreessen and Eric Bina to write Mosaic, which was originally called xmosaic and built for X11 or the X Window System. In 1992 there were only 26 websites in the world. But that was up from the 1 that Internet pioneer Tim Berners-Lee built at info.cern.ch in 1991. The internet had really only been born a few years earlier in 1989. But funded by the Gore Bill, Andreessen and a team of developers released the Alpha version of the NCSA Mosaic browser in 1993 and ported it to Windows, Mac, and of course the Amiga. At this point there were about 130 websites. Version two of Mosaic came later that year and then the National Science Foundation picked up the tab to maintain Mosaic from 94 to 97. James Clark, a co-founder of Silicon Graphics and a legend in Silicon Valley, took notice. He recruited some of the Mosaic team, led by Marc Andreessen, to start Mosaic Communications Corporation, which released Netscape Navigator in 1994, the same year Andreessen graduated from college. By then there were over 2,700 websites, and a lot of other people were taking notice after 2 four digit growth years. Yahoo! and EXCITE were released in 1994 and enjoyed an explosion in popularity, entering a field with 25 million people accessing such a small number of sites. Justin Hall was posting personal stuff on links.net, one of the earliest forms of what we now call blogging. Someone else couldn't help but notice: Bill Gates from Microsoft. He considered cross-platform web pages and the commoditization of the operating system to be a huge problem for his maturing startup called Microsoft, and famously sent The Internet Tidal Wave memo to his direct reports, laying out a vision for how Microsoft would respond to this thread. We got Netscape for free at the University, but I remember when I went to the professional world we had to pay for it. The look and feel of Navigator then can still be seen in modern browsers today. There was an address bar, a customizable home page, a status bar, and you could write little javascripts to do cutesy things like have a message scroll here and there or have blinked things. 1995 also brought us HTML frames, fonts on pages, the ability to change the background color, the ability to embed various forms of media, and image maps. Building sites back then was a breeze. And with an 80% market share for browsers, testing was simple: just open Netscape and view your page! Netscape was a press darling. They had insane fans that loved them. And while they hadn't made money yet, they did something that a lot of companies do now, but few did then: they went IPO early and raked in $600 million in their first day, turning Marc Andreessen the poster child into an overnight sensation. They even started to say that the PC would live on the web - and it would do so using Netscape. Andreessen then committed the cardinal sin that put many in tech out of a job: he went after Microsoft claiming they'd reduce Microsoft to a set of “poorly debugged device drivers.” Microsoft finally responded. They had a meeting with Netscape and offered to acquire the company or they would put them out of business. Netscape lawyered up, claiming Microsoft offered to split the market up where they owned Windows and left the rest to Netscape. Internet Explorer 1 was released by Microsoft in 1995 - a fork of Mosaic which had been indirectly licensed from the code Andreessen had written while still working with the NCSA in college. And so began the “Browser Wars” with Netscape 2 being released and Internet Explorer 2, the same year. 1995 saw the web shoot up to over 23,000 sites. Netscape 2 added Netscape Mail, an email program with about as simple a name as Microsoft Mail, which had been in Windows since 1991. In 1995, Brendan Eich, a developer at Netscape wrote SpiderMonkey, the original JavaScript engine, a language many web apps still use today (just look for the .jsp extension). I was managing labs at the University of Georgia at the time and remember the fast pace that we were upgrading these browsers. NCSA telnet hadn't been updated in years but it had never been as cool as this Netscape thing. Geocities popped up and I can still remember my first time building a website there and accessing incredible amounts of content being built - and maybe even learning a thing or two while dinking around in those neighborhoods. 1995 had been a huge and eventful year, with nearly 45 million people now “on the web.” Amazon, early search engine Altavista, LYCOS, and eBay launching as well. The search engine space sure was heating up… Then came 1996. Things got fun. Point releases of browsers came monthly. New features dropped with each release. Plugins for Internet Explorer leveraged API hooks into the Windows operating system that made pages only work on IE. Those of us working on pages had to update for both, and test for both. By the end of 1996 there were over a quarter million web pages and over 77 million people were using the web. Apple, The New York Times, Dell.com appeared on the web, but 41 percent of people checked AOL regularly and other popular sites would be from ISPs for years to come. Finally, after a lot of talk and a lot of point releases, Netscape 3 was released in 1997. Javascript got a rev, a lot of styling elements some still use today like tables and frames came out and forms could be filled out automatically. There was also a gold version of Netscape 3 that allowed editing pages. But Dreamweaver gave us a nice WYSIWIG to build web pages that was far more feature rich. Netscape got buggier, they bit on more and more thus spreading developers thing. They just couldn't keep up. And Internet Explorer was made free in Windows as of IE 3, and had become equal to Netscape. It had a lot of plugins for Windows that made it work better on that platform, for better or worse. The Browser Wars ended when Netscape decided to open source their code in 1998, creating the Mozilla project by open sourcing the Netscape Browser Suite source code. This led to Waterfox, Pale Moon, SeaMonkey, Ice Weasel, Ice Cat, Wyzo, and of course, Tor Browser, Swiftfox, Swift Weasel, Timberwolf, TenFourFox, Comodo IceDragon, CometBird, Basilisk, Cliqz, AT&T Pogo, IceCat, and Flock. But most importantly, Mozilla released Firefox themselves, which still maintains between 8 and 10 percent marketshare for browser usage according to who you ask. Of course, ultimately everyone lost the browser wars now that Chrome owns a 67% market share! Netscape was sold to AOL in 1999 for $4.2 billion, the first year they dropped out of the website popularity contest called the top 10. At this point, Microsoft controlled the market with an 80% market share. That was the first year Amazon showed up on the top list of websites. The Netscape problems continued. AOL released Netscape 6 in 2000, which was buggy and I remember a concerted effort at the time to start removing Netscape from computers. In 2003, after being acquired by Time Warner, AOL finally killed off Netscape. This was the same year Apple released Safari. They released 7.2 in 2004 after outsourcing some of the development. Netscape 9, a port of Firefox, was released in 2007. The next year Google Chrome was released. Today, Mozilla is a half-billion dollar a year not-for profit. They ship the Firefox browser, the Firefox OS mobile OS, the online file sharing service Firefox Send, the Bugzilla bug tracking tool, the Rust programming language, the Thunderbird email client, and other tools like SpiderMonkey, which is still the javascript engine embedded into Firefox and Thunderbird. If the later stage of Netscape's code in the form of the open source Mozilla projects appeal to you, consider becoming a Mozilla Rep. You can help contribute, promote, document, and build the community with other passionate and knowledgeable humans that are on the forefront of pushing the web into new and beautiful places. For more on that, go to reps.mozilla.org. Andreessen went on to build Opsware with Ben Horowitz (who's not a bad author) and others. He sold the hosting business and in 2005 continued on with Horowitz founded Andreessen Horowitz which were early investors of Facebook, Foursquare, GitHub, Groupon, LinkedIn, Pinterest, Twitter, Jawbone, Zynga, Skype, and many, many others. He didn't win the browser wars, but he has been at the center of helping to shape the Internet as we know it today, and due to the open sourcing of the source code many other browsers popped up. The advent of the cloud has also validated many of his early arguments about the web making computer operating systems more of a commodity. Anyone who's used Office 365 online or Google apps can back that up. Ultimately, the story of Netscape could be looked at as yet another “Bill Gates screwed us” story. But I'm not sure that does it justice. Netscape did as much to shape the Internet in those early days as anything else. Many of those early contributions, like the open nature of the Internet, various languages and techniques, and of course the code in the form of Mozilla, live on today. There were other browsers, and the Internet might have grown to what it is today. But we might not have had as much of the velocity without Andreessen and Netscape and specifically the heated competition that led to so much innovation in such a short period of time - so we certainly owe them our gratitude that we've come as far as we have. And I owe you my gratitude. Thank you so very much for tuning into another episode of the History of Computing Podcast. We're lucky to have you. Have a great day!

Martina Lauchengco Contributor Share on Twitter Martina spent over 20 years as a marketing and product executive building and crafting strategies for market-defining software like Microsoft Office and Netscape Navigator. As an operating partner at Costanoa Ventures, she sits on multiple boards and advises companies on all things go-to-market. She also teaches at the UC Berkeley graduate school of engineering.

How the term open source was created, running FreeBSD on ThinkPad T530, Moving away from Windows, Unknown Giants, as well as OpenBSD and FreeDOS. This episode was brought to you by Headlines How I coined the term 'open source' (https://opensource.com/article/18/2/coining-term-open-source-software) In a few days, on February 3, the 20th anniversary of the introduction of the term "open source software" is upon us. As open source software grows in popularity and powers some of the most robust and important innovations of our time, we reflect on its rise to prominence. I am the originator of the term "open source software" and came up with it while executive director at Foresight Institute. Not a software developer like the rest, I thank Linux programmer Todd Anderson for supporting the term and proposing it to the group. This is my account of how I came up with it, how it was proposed, and the subsequent reactions. Of course, there are a number of accounts of the coining of the term, for example by Eric Raymond and Richard Stallman, yet this is mine, written on January 2, 2006. It has never been published, until today. The introduction of the term "open source software" was a deliberate effort to make this field of endeavor more understandable to newcomers and to business, which was viewed as necessary to its spread to a broader community of users. The problem with the main earlier label, "free software," was not its political connotations, but that—to newcomers—its seeming focus on price is distracting. A term was needed that focuses on the key issue of source code and that does not immediately confuse those new to the concept. The first term that came along at the right time and fulfilled these requirements was rapidly adopted: open source. This term had long been used in an "intelligence" (i.e., spying) context, but to my knowledge, use of the term with respect to software prior to 1998 has not been confirmed. The account below describes how the term open source software caught on and became the name of both an industry and a movement. Meetings on computer security In late 1997, weekly meetings were being held at Foresight Institute to discuss computer security. Foresight is a nonprofit think tank focused on nanotechnology and artificial intelligence, and software security is regarded as central to the reliability and security of both. We had identified free software as a promising approach to improving software security and reliability and were looking for ways to promote it. Interest in free software was starting to grow outside the programming community, and it was increasingly clear that an opportunity was coming to change the world. However, just how to do this was unclear, and we were groping for strategies. At these meetings, we discussed the need for a new term due to the confusion factor. The argument was as follows: those new to the term "free software" assume it is referring to the price. Oldtimers must then launch into an explanation, usually given as follows: "We mean free as in freedom, not free as in beer." At this point, a discussion on software has turned into one about the price of an alcoholic beverage. The problem was not that explaining the meaning is impossible—the problem was that the name for an important idea should not be so confusing to newcomers. A clearer term was needed. No political issues were raised regarding the free software term; the issue was its lack of clarity to those new to the concept. Releasing Netscape On February 2, 1998, Eric Raymond arrived on a visit to work with Netscape on the plan to release the browser code under a free-software-style license. We held a meeting that night at Foresight's office in Los Altos to strategize and refine our message. In addition to Eric and me, active participants included Brian Behlendorf, Michael Tiemann, Todd Anderson, Mark S. Miller, and Ka-Ping Yee. But at that meeting, the field was still described as free software or, by Brian, "source code available" software. While in town, Eric used Foresight as a base of operations. At one point during his visit, he was called to the phone to talk with a couple of Netscape legal and/or marketing staff. When he was finished, I asked to be put on the phone with them—one man and one woman, perhaps Mitchell Baker—so I could bring up the need for a new term. They agreed in principle immediately, but no specific term was agreed upon. Between meetings that week, I was still focused on the need for a better name and came up with the term "open source software." While not ideal, it struck me as good enough. I ran it by at least four others: Eric Drexler, Mark Miller, and Todd Anderson liked it, while a friend in marketing and public relations felt the term "open" had been overused and abused and believed we could do better. He was right in theory; however, I didn't have a better idea, so I thought I would try to go ahead and introduce it. In hindsight, I should have simply proposed it to Eric Raymond, but I didn't know him well at the time, so I took an indirect strategy instead. Todd had agreed strongly about the need for a new term and offered to assist in getting the term introduced. This was helpful because, as a non-programmer, my influence within the free software community was weak. My work in nanotechnology education at Foresight was a plus, but not enough for me to be taken very seriously on free software questions. As a Linux programmer, Todd would be listened to more closely. The key meeting Later that week, on February 5, 1998, a group was assembled at VA Research to brainstorm on strategy. Attending—in addition to Eric Raymond, Todd, and me—were Larry Augustin, Sam Ockman, and attending by phone, Jon "maddog" Hall. The primary topic was promotion strategy, especially which companies to approach. I said little, but was looking for an opportunity to introduce the proposed term. I felt that it wouldn't work for me to just blurt out, "All you technical people should start using my new term." Most of those attending didn't know me, and for all I knew, they might not even agree that a new term was greatly needed, or even somewhat desirable. Fortunately, Todd was on the ball. Instead of making an assertion that the community should use this specific new term, he did something less directive—a smart thing to do with this community of strong-willed individuals. He simply used the term in a sentence on another topic—just dropped it into the conversation to see what happened. I went on alert, hoping for a response, but there was none at first. The discussion continued on the original topic. It seemed only he and I had noticed the usage. Not so—memetic evolution was in action. A few minutes later, one of the others used the term, evidently without noticing, still discussing a topic other than terminology. Todd and I looked at each other out of the corners of our eyes to check: yes, we had both noticed what happened. I was excited—it might work! But I kept quiet: I still had low status in this group. Probably some were wondering why Eric had invited me at all. Toward the end of the meeting, the question of terminology was brought up explicitly, probably by Todd or Eric. Maddog mentioned "freely distributable" as an earlier term, and "cooperatively developed" as a newer term. Eric listed "free software," "open source," and "sourceware" as the main options. Todd advocated the "open source" model, and Eric endorsed this. I didn't say much, letting Todd and Eric pull the (loose, informal) consensus together around the open source name. It was clear that to most of those at the meeting, the name change was not the most important thing discussed there; a relatively minor issue. Only about 10% of my notes from this meeting are on the terminology question. But I was elated. These were some key leaders in the community, and they liked the new name, or at least didn't object. This was a very good sign. There was probably not much more I could do to help; Eric Raymond was far better positioned to spread the new meme, and he did. Bruce Perens signed on to the effort immediately, helping set up Opensource.org and playing a key role in spreading the new term. For the name to succeed, it was necessary, or at least highly desirable, that Tim O'Reilly agree and actively use it in his many projects on behalf of the community. Also helpful would be use of the term in the upcoming official release of the Netscape Navigator code. By late February, both O'Reilly & Associates and Netscape had started to use the term. Getting the name out After this, there was a period during which the term was promoted by Eric Raymond to the media, by Tim O'Reilly to business, and by both to the programming community. It seemed to spread very quickly. On April 7, 1998, Tim O'Reilly held a meeting of key leaders in the field. Announced in advance as the first "Freeware Summit," by April 14 it was referred to as the first "Open Source Summit." These months were extremely exciting for open source. Every week, it seemed, a new company announced plans to participate. Reading Slashdot became a necessity, even for those like me who were only peripherally involved. I strongly believe that the new term was helpful in enabling this rapid spread into business, which then enabled wider use by the public. A quick Google search indicates that "open source" appears more often than "free software," but there still is substantial use of the free software term, which remains useful and should be included when communicating with audiences who prefer it. A happy twinge When an early account of the terminology change written by Eric Raymond was posted on the Open Source Initiative website, I was listed as being at the VA brainstorming meeting, but not as the originator of the term. This was my own fault; I had neglected to tell Eric the details. My impulse was to let it pass and stay in the background, but Todd felt otherwise. He suggested to me that one day I would be glad to be known as the person who coined the name "open source software." He explained the situation to Eric, who promptly updated his site. Coming up with a phrase is a small contribution, but I admit to being grateful to those who remember to credit me with it. Every time I hear it, which is very often now, it gives me a little happy twinge. The big credit for persuading the community goes to Eric Raymond and Tim O'Reilly, who made it happen. Thanks to them for crediting me, and to Todd Anderson for his role throughout. The above is not a complete account of open source history; apologies to the many key players whose names do not appear. Those seeking a more complete account should refer to the links in this article and elsewhere on the net. FreeBSD on a Laptop - A guide to a fully functional installation of FreeBSD on a ThinkPad T530 (https://www.c0ffee.net/blog/freebsd-on-a-laptop) As I stated my previous post, I recently dug up my old ThinkPad T530 after the embarrassing stream of OS X security bugs this month. Although this ThinkPad ran Gentoo faithfully during my time in graduate school at Clemson, these days I'd much rather spend time my wife and baby than fighting with emerge and USE flags. FreeBSD has always been my OS of choice, and laptop support seems to be much better than it was a few years ago. In this guide, I'll show you the tweaks I made to wrestle FreeBSD into a decent experience on a laptop. Unlike my usual posts, this time I'm going to assume you're already pretty familiar with FreeBSD. If you're a layman looking for your first BSD-based desktop, I highly recommend checking out TrueOS (previously PC-BSD): they've basically taken FreeBSD and packaged it with all the latest drivers, along with a user-friendly installer and custom desktop environment out of the box. TrueOS is an awesome project–the only reason I don't use it is because I'm old, grumpy, and persnickety about having my operating system just so. Anyway, if you'd still like to take the plunge, read on. Keep in mind, I'm using a ThinkPad T530, but other ThinkPads of the same generation should be similarly compatible. Here's what you'll get: Decent battery life (8-9 hours with a new 9-cell battery) UEFI boot and full-disk encryption WiFi (Intel Ultimate-N 6300) Ethernet (Intel PRO/1000) Screen brightness adjustment Suspend/Resume on lid close (make sure to disable TPM in BIOS) Audio (Realtek ALC269 HDA, speakers and headphone jack) Keyboard multimedia buttons Touchpad/Trackpoint Graphics Acceleration (with integrated Intel graphics, NVIDIA card disabled in BIOS) What I haven't tested yet: Bluetooth Webcam Fingerprint reader SD Card slot Installation Power Saving Tweaks for Desktop Use X11 Fonts Login Manager: SLiM Desktop Environment: i3 Applications The LLVM Sanitizers stage accomplished (https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/the_llvm_sanitizers_stage_accomplished) I've managed to get the Memory Sanitizer to work for the elementary base system utilities, like ps(1), awk(1) and ksh(1). This means that the toolchain is ready for tests and improvements. I've iterated over the basesystem utilities and I looked for bugs, both in programs and in sanitizers. The number of detected bugs in the userland programs was low, there merely was one reading of an uninitialized variable in ps(1). A prebuilt LLVM toolchain I've prepared a prebuilt toolchain with Clang, LLVM, LLDB and compiler-rt for NetBSD/amd64. I prepared the toolchain on 8.99.12, however I have received reports that it works on other older releases. Link: llvm-clang-compilerrt-lldb-7.0.0beta_2018-01-24.tar.bz2 The archive has to be untarballed to /usr/local (however it might work to some extent in other paths). This toolchain contains a prebuilt tree of the LLVM projects from a snapshot of 7.0.0(svn). It is a pristine snapshot of HEAD with patches from pkgsrc-wip for llvm, clang, compiler-rt and lldb. Sanitizers Notable changes in sanitizers, all of them are in the context of NetBSD support. Added fstat(2) MSan interceptor. Support for kvm(3) interceptors in the common sanitizer code. Added devname(3) and devname_r(3) interceptors to the common sanitizer code. Added sysctl(3) familty of functions interceptors in the common sanitizer code. Added strlcpy(3)/strlcat(3) interceptors in the common sanitizer code. Added getgrouplist(3)/getgroupmembership(3) interceptors in the common sanitizer code. Correct ctype(3) interceptors in a code using Native Language Support. Correct tzset(3) interceptor in MSan. Correct localtime(3) interceptor in the common sanitizer code. Added paccept(2) interceptor to the common sanitizer code. Added access(2) and faccessat(2) interceptors to the common sanitizer code. Added acct(2) interceptor to the common sanitizer code. Added accept4(2) interceptor to the common sanitizer code. Added fgetln(3) interceptor to the common sanitizer code. Added interceptors for the pwcache(3)-style functions in the common sanitizer code. Added interceptors for the getprotoent(3)-style functions in the common sanitizer code. Added interceptors for the getnetent(3)-style functions in the common sanitizer code. Added interceptors for the fts(3)-style functions in the common sanitizer code. Added lstat(3) interceptor in MSan. Added strftime(3) interceptor in the common sanitizer code. Added strmode(3) interceptor in the common sanitizer code. Added interceptors for the regex(3)-style functions in the common sanitizer code. Disabled unwanted interceptor __sigsetjmp in TSan. Base system changes I've tidied up inclusion of the internal namespace.h header in libc. This has hidden the usage of public global symbol names of: strlcat -> _strlcat sysconf -> __sysconf closedir -> _closedir fparseln -> _fparseln kill -> _kill mkstemp -> _mkstemp reallocarr -> _reallocarr strcasecmp -> _strcasecmp strncasecmp -> _strncasecmp strptime -> _strptime strtok_r -> _strtok_r sysctl -> _sysctl dlopen -> __dlopen dlclose -> __dlclose dlsym -> __dlsym strlcpy -> _strlcpy fdopen -> _fdopen mmap -> _mmap strdup -> _strdup The purpose of these changes was to stop triggering interceptors recursively. Such interceptors lead to sanitization of internals of unprepared (not recompiled with sanitizers) prebuilt code. It's not trivial to sanitize libc's internals and the sanitizers are not designed to do so. This means that they are not a full replacement of Valgrind-like software, but a a supplement in the developer toolbox. Valgrind translates native code to a bytecode virtual machine, while sanitizers are designed to work with interceptors inside the pristine elementary libraries (libc, libm, librt, libpthread) and embed functionality into the executable's code. I've also reverted the vadvise(2) syscall removal, from the previous month. This caused a regression in legacy code recompiled against still supported compat layers. Newly compiled code will use a libc's stub of vadvise(2). I've also prepared a patch installing dedicated headers for sanitizers along with the base system GCC. It's still discussed and should land the sources soon. Future directions and goals Possible paths in random order: In the quartet of UBSan (Undefined Behavior Sanitizer), ASan (Address Sanitizer), TSan (Thread Sanitizer), MSan (Memory Sanitizer) we need to add the fifth basic sanitizer: LSan (Leak Sanitizer). The Leak Sanitizer (detector of memory leaks) demands a stable ptrace(2) interface for processes with multiple threads (unless we want to build a custom kernel interface). Integrate the sanitizers with the userland framework in order to ship with the native toolchain to users. Port sanitizers from LLVM to GCC. Allow to sanitize programs linked against userland libraries other than libc, librt, libm and libpthread; by a global option (like MKSANITIZER) producing a userland that is partially prebuilt with a desired sanitizer. This is required to run e.g. MSanitized programs against editline(3). So far, there is no Operating System distribution in existence with a native integration with sanitizers. There are 3rd party scripts for certain OSes to build a stack of software dependencies in order to validate a piece of software. Execute ATF tests with the userland rebuilt with supported flavors of sanitizers and catch regressions. Finish porting of modern linkers designed for large C++ software, such as GNU GOLD and LLVM LLD. Today the bottleneck with building the LLVM toolchain is a suboptimal linker GNU ld(1). I've decided to not open new battlefields and return now to porting LLDB and fixing ptrace(2). Plan for the next milestone Keep upstreaming a pile of local compiler-rt patches. Restore the LLDB support for traced programs with a single thread. Interview - Goran Mekic - meka@tilda.center (mailto:meka@tilda.center) / @meka_floss (https://twitter.com/meka_floss) CBSD website (https://bsdstore.ru) Jail and VM Manager *** News Roundup Finally Moving Away From Windows (https://www.manios.ca/blog/2018/01/finally-moving-away-from-windows/) Broken Window Thanks to a combination of some really impressive malware, bad clicking, and poor website choices, I had to blow away my Windows 10 installation. Not that it was Window's fault, but a piece of malware had infected my computer when I tried to download a long lost driver for an even longer lost RAID card for a server. A word of advice – the download you're looking for is never on an ad-infested forum in another language. In any case, I had been meaning to switch away from Windows soon. I didn't have my entire plan ready, but now was as good a time as any. My line of work requires me to maintain some form of Windows installation, so I decided to keep it in a VM rather than dual booting as I was developing code and not running any high-end visual stuff like games. My first thought was to install Arch or Gentoo Linux, but the last time I attempted a Gentoo installation it left me bootless. Not that there is anything wrong with Gentoo, it was probably my fault, but I like the idea of some sort of installer so I looked at rock-solid Debian. My dad had installed Debian on his sweet new cutting-edge Lenovo laptop he received recently from work. He often raves about his cool scripts and much more effective customized experience, but often complains about his hybrid GPU support as he has an Intel/Nvidia hybrid display adapter (he has finally resolved it and now boasts his 6 connected displays). I didn't want to install Windows again, but something didn't feel right about installing some flavour of Linux. Back at home I have a small collection of FreeBSD servers running in all sorts of jails and other physical hardware, with the exception of one Debian server which I had the hardest time dealing with (it would be FreeBSD too if 802.11ac support was there as it is acting as my WiFi/gateway/IDS/IPS). I loved my FreeBSD servers, and yes I will write posts about each one soon enough. I wanted that cleanliness and familiarity on my desktop as well (I really love the ports collection!). It's settled – I will run FreeBSD on my laptop. This also created a new rivalry with my father, which is not a bad thing either. Playing Devil's Advocate The first thing I needed to do was backup my Windows data. This was easy enough, just run a Windows Image Backup and it will- wait, what? Why isn't this working? I didn't want to fiddle with this too long because I didn't actually need an image just the data. I ended up just copying over the files to an external hard disk. Once that was done, I downloaded and verified the latest FreeBSD 11.1 RELEASE memstick image and flashed it to my trusty 8GB Verbatim USB stick. I've had this thing since 2007, it works great for being my re-writable “CD”. I booted it up and started the installation. I knew this installer pretty well as I had test-installed FreeBSD and OpenBSD in VMs when I was researching a Unix style replacement OS last year. In any case, I left most of the defaults (I didn't want to play with custom kernels right now) and I selected all packages. This downloaded them from the FreeBSD FTP server as I only had the memstick image. The installer finished and I was off to my first boot. Great! so far so good. FreeBSD loaded up and I did a ‘pkg upgrade' just to make sure that everything was up to date. Alright, time to get down to business. I needed nano. I just can't use vi, or just not yet. I don't care about being a vi-wizard, that's just too much effort for me. Anyway, just a ‘pkg install nano' and I had my editor. Next was obvious, I needed x11. XFCE was common, and there were plenty of tutorials out there. I wont bore you with those details, but it went something like ‘pkg install xfce' and I got all the dependencies. Don't forget to install SLiM to make it seamless. There are some configs in the .login I think. SLiM needs to be called once the boot drops you to the login so that you get SLiM's nice GUI login instead of the CLI login screen. Then SLiM passes you off to XFCE. I think I followed this and this. Awesome. Now that x11 is working, it's time to get all of my apps from Windows. Obviously, I can't get everything (ie. Visual Studio, Office). But in my Windows installation, I had chosen many open-source or cross-compiled apps as they either worked better or so that I was ready to move away from Windows at a moments notice. ‘pkg install firefox thunderbird hexchat pidgin gpa keepass owncloud-client transmission-qt5 veracrypt openvpn' were some immediate picks. There are a lot more that I downloaded later, but these are a few I use everyday. My laptop also has the same hybrid display adapter config that my dad's has, but I chose to only run Intel graphics, so dual screens are no problem for me. I'll add Nvidia support later, but it's not a priority. After I had imported my private keys and loaded my firefox and thunderbird settings, I wanted to get my Windows VM running right away as I was burning productive days at work fiddling with this. I had only two virtualisation options; qemu/kvm and bhyve. qemu/kvm wasn't available in pkg, and looked real dirty to compile, from FreeBSD's point of view. My dad is using qemu/kvm with virt-manager to manage all of his Windows/Unix VMs alike. I wanted that experience, but I also wanted packages that could be updated and I didn't want to mess up a compile. bhyve was a better choice. It was built-in, it was more compatible with Windows (from what I read), and this is a great step-by-step article for Windows 10 on FreeBSD 11 bhyve! I had already tried to get virt-manager to work with bhyve with no luck. I don't think libvirt connects with bhyve completely, or maybe my config is wrong. But I didn't have time to fiddle with it. I managed it all through command lines and that has worked perfectly so far. Well sorta, there was an issue installing SQL Server, and only SQL Server, on my Windows VM. This was due to a missing ‘sectorsize=512' setting on the disk parameter on the bhyve command line. That was only found after A LOT of digging because the SQL Server install didn't log the error properly. I eventually found out that SQL Server only likes one sector size of disks for the install and my virtual disk geometry was incorrect. Apps Apps Apps I installed Windows 10 on my bhyve VM and I got that all setup with the apps I needed for work. Mostly Office, Visual Studio, and vSphere for managing our server farm. Plus all of the annoying 3rd party VPN software (I'm looking at you Dell and Cisco). Alright, with the Windows VM done, I can now work at work and finish FreeBSD mostly during the nights. I still needed my remote files (I setup an ownCloud instance on a FreeNAS jail at home) so I setup the client. Now, normally on Windows I would come to work and connect to my home network using OpenVPN (again, I have a OpenVPN FreeNAS jail at home) and the ownCloud desktop would be able to handle changing DNS destination IPs Not on FreeBSD (and Linux too?). I ended up just configuring the ownCloud client to just connect to the home LAN IP for the ownCloud server and always connecting the OpenVPN to sync things. It kinda sucks, but at least it works. I left that running at home overnight to get a full sync (~130GB cloud sync, another reason I use it over Google or Microsoft). Once that was done I moved onto the fstab as I had another 1TB SSD in my laptop with other files. I messed around with fstab and my NFS shares to my FreeNAS at home, but took them out as they made the boot time so long when I wasn't at home. I would only mount them when my OpenVPN connected or manually. I really wanted to install SpaceFM, but it's only available as a package on Debian and their non-package install script doesn't work on FreeBSD (packages are named differently). I tried doing it manually, but it was too much work. As my dad was the one who introduced me to it, he still uses it as a use-case for his Debian setup. Instead I kept to the original PCManFM and it works just fine. I also loaded up my Bitcoin and Litecoin wallets and pointed them to the blockchain that I has used on Windows after their sync, they loaded perfectly and my balances were there. I kinda wish there was the Bitcoin-ABC full node Bitcoin Cash wallet package on FreeBSD, but I'm sure it will come out later. The rest is essentially just tweaks and making the environment more comfortable for me, and with most programs installed as packages I feel a lot better with upgrades and audit checking (‘pkg audit -F' is really helpful!). I will always hate Python, actually, I will always hate any app that has it's own package manager. I do miss the GUI GitHub tool on Windows. It was a really good-looking way to view all of my repos. The last thing (which is increasing it's priority every time I go to a social media site or YouTube) is fonts. My god I never thought it was such a problem, and UTF support is complicated. If anyone knows how to get all UTF characters to show up, please let me know. I'd really like Wikipedia articles to load perfectly (I followed this post and there are still some missing). There are some extra tweaks I followed here and here. Conclusion I successfully migrated from Windows 10 to FreeBSD 11.1 with minimal consequence. Shout out goes to the entire FreeBSD community. So many helpful people in there, and the forums are a great place to find tons of information. Also thanks to the ones who wrote the how-to articles I've referenced. I never would have gotten bhyve to work and I'd still probably be messing with my X config without them. I guess my take home from this is to not be afraid to make changes that may change how comfortable I am in an environment. I'm always open to comments and questions, please feel free to make them below. I purposefully didn't include too many technical things or commands in this article as I wanted to focus on the larger picture of the migration as a whole not the struggles of xorg.conf, but if you would like to see some of the configs or commands I used, let me know and I'll include some! TrueOS Rules of Conduct (https://www.trueos.org/rulesofconduct/) We believe code is truly agnostic and embrace inclusiveness regardless of a person's individual beliefs. As such we only ask the following when participating in TrueOS public events and digital forums: Treat each other with respect and professionalism. Leave personal and TrueOS unrelated conversations to other channels. In other words, it's all about the code. Users who feel the above rules have been violated in some way can register a complaint with abuse@trueos.org + Shorter than the BSD License (https://twitter.com/trueos/status/965994363070353413) + Positive response from the community (https://twitter.com/freebsdbytes/status/966567686015782912) I really like the @TrueOS Code of Conduct, unlike some other CoCs. It's short, clear and covers everything. Most #OpenSource projects are labour of love. Why do you need a something that reads like a legal contract? FreeBSD: The Unknown Giant (https://neomoevius.tumblr.com/post/171108458234/freebsd-the-unknown-giant) I decided to write this article as a gratitude for the recent fast answer of the FreeBSD/TrueOS community with my questions and doubts. I am impressed how fast and how they tried to help me about this operating system which I used in the past(2000-2007) but recently in 2017 I began to use it again. + A lot has changed in 10 years I was looking around the internet, trying to do some research about recent information about FreeBSD and other versions or an easy to use spins like PCBSD (now TrueOS) I used to be Windows/Mac user for so many years until 2014 when I decided to use Linux as my desktop OS just because I wanted to use something different. I always wanted to use unix or a unix-like operating system, nowadays my main objective is to learn more about these operating systems (Debian Linux, TrueOS or FreeBSD). FreeBSD has similarities with Linux, with two major differences in scope and licensing: FreeBSD maintains a complete operating system, i.e. the project delivers kernel, device drivers, userland utilities and documentation, as opposed to Linux delivering a kernel and drivers only and relying on third-parties for system software; and FreeBSD source code is generally released under a permissive BSD license as opposed to the copyleft GPL used by Linux.“ But why do I call FreeBSD “The Unknown Giant”?, because the code base of this operating system has been used by other companies to develop their own operating system for products like computers or also game consoles. + FreeBSD is used for storage appliances, firewalls, email scanners, network scanners, network security appliances, load balancers, video servers, and more So many people now will learn that not only “linux is everywhere” but also that “FreeBSD is everywhere too” By the way speaking about movies, Do you remember the movie “The Matrix”? FreeBSD was used to make the movie: “The photo-realistic surroundings generated by this method were incorporated into the bullet time scene, and linear interpolation filled in any gaps of the still images to produce a fluent dynamic motion; the computer-generated “lead in” and “lead out” slides were filled in between frames in sequence to get an illusion of orbiting the scene. Manex Visual Effects used a cluster farm running the Unix-like operating system FreeBSD to render many of the film's visual effects” + FreeBSD Press Release re: The Matrix (https://www.freebsd.org/news/press-rel-1.html) I hope that I gave a good reference, information and now so many people can understand why I am going to use just Debian Linux and FreeBSD(TrueOS) to do so many different stuff (music, 3d animation, video editing and text editing) instead use a Mac or Windows. + FreeBSD really is the unknown giant. OpenBSD and FreeDOS vs the hell in earth (https://steemit.com/openbsd/@npna/openbsd-and-freedos-vs-the-hell-in-earth) Yes sir, yes. Our family, composed until now by OpenBSD, Alpine Linux and Docker is rapidly growing. And yes, sir. Yes. All together we're fighting against your best friends, the infamous, the ugliest, the worst...the dudes called the privacy cannibals. Do you know what i mean, sure? We're working hard, no matter what time is it, no matter in what part in the world we are, no matter if we've no money. We perfectly know that you cannot do nothing against the true. And we're doing our best to expand our true, our doors are opened to all the good guys, there's a lot here but their brain was fucked by your shit tv, your fake news, your laws, etc etc etc. We're alive, we're here to fight against you. Tonight, yes it's a Friday night and we're working, we're ready to welcome with open arms an old guy, his experience will give us more power. Welcome to: FreeDOS But why we want to build a bootable usb stick with FreeDOS under our strong OpenBSD? The answer is as usual to fight against the privacy cannibals! More than one decade ago the old BIOS was silently replaced by the more capable and advanced UEFI, this is absolutely normal because of the pass of the years and exponencial grow of the power of our personal computers. UEFI is a complex system, it's like a standalone system operative with direct access to every component of our (yes, it's our not your!) machine. But...wait a moment...do you know how to use it? Do you ever know that it exist? And one more thing, it's secure? The answer to this question is totally insane, no, it's not secure. The idea is good, the company that started in theory is one of the most important in IT, it's Intel. The history is very large and obviously we're going to go very deep in it, but trust me UEFI and the various friend of him, like ME, TPM are insecure and closed source! Like the hell in earth. A FreeDOS bootable usb image under OpenBSD But let's start preparing our OpenBSD to put order in this chaos: $ mkdir -p freedos/stuff $ cd freedos/stuff $ wget https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.0/fdboot.img $ wget https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/sys/sys-freedos-linux/sys-freedos-linux.zip $ wget https://download.lenovo.com/consumer/desktop/o35jy19usa_y900.exe $ wget http://145.130.102.57/domoticx/software/amiflasher/AFUDOS%20Flasher%205.05.04.7z Explanation in clear language as usual: create two directory, download the minimal boot disc image of FreeDOS, download Syslinux assembler MBR bootloaders, download the last Windows only UEFI update from Lenovo and download the relative unknown utility from AMI to flash our motherboard UEFI chipset. Go ahead: $ doas pkg_add -U nasm unzip dosfstools cabextract p7zip nasm the Netwide Assembler, a portable 80x86 assembler. unzip list, test and extract compressed files in a ZIP archive. dosfstoolsa collections of utilities to manipulate MS-DOSfs. cabextract program to extract files from cabinet. p7zipcollection of utilities to manipulate 7zip archives. $ mkdir sys-freedos-linux && cd sys-freedos-linux $ unzip ../sys-freedos-linux.zip $ cd ~/freedos && mkdir old new $ dd if=/dev/null of=freedos.img bs=1024 seek=20480 $ mkfs.fat freedos.img Create another working directory, cd into it, unzip the archive that we've downloaded, return to the working root and create another twos directories. dd is one of the most important utilities in the unix world to manipulate at byte level input and output: The dd utility copies the standard input to the standard output, applying any specified conversions. Input data is read and written in 512-byte blocks. If input reads are short, input from multiple reads are aggregated to form the output block. When finished, dd displays the number of complete and partial input and output blocks and truncated input records to the standard error output. We're creating here a virtual disk with bs=1024 we're setting both input and output block to 1024bytes; with seek=20480 we require 20480bytes. This is the result: -rw-r--r-- 1 taglio taglio 20971520 Feb 3 00:11 freedos.img. Next we format the virtual disk using the MS-DOS filesystem. Go ahead: $ doas su $ perl stuff/sys-freedos-linux/sys-freedos.pl --disk=freedos.img $ vnconfig vnd0 stuff/fdboot.img $ vnconfig vnd1 freedos.img $ mount -t msdos /dev/vnd0c old/ $ mount -t msdos /dev/vnd1c new/ We use the perl utility from syslinux to write the MBR of our virtual disk freedos.img. Next we create to loop virtual node using the OpenBSD utility vnconfig. Take care here because it is quite different from Linux, but as usual is clear and simple. The virtual nodes are associated to the downloaded fdboot.img and the newly created freedos.img. Next we mount the two virtual nodes cpartitions; in OpenBSD cpartition describes the entire physical disk. Quite different from Linux, take care. $ cp -R old/* new/ $ cd stuff $ mkdir o35jy19usa $ cabextract -d o35jy19usa o35jy19usa_y900.exe $ doas su $ cp o35jy19usa/ ../new/ $ mkdir afudos && cd afudos $ 7z e ../AFUDOS* $ doas su $ cp AFUDOS.exe ../../new/ $ umount ~/freedos/old/ && umount ~/freedos/new/ $ vnconfig -u vnd1 && vnconfig -u vnd0 Copy all files and directories in the new virtual node partition, extract the Lenovo cabinet in a new directory, copy the result in our new image, extract the afudos utility and like the others copy it. Umount the partitions and destroy the loop vnode. Beastie Bits NetBSD - A modern operating system for your retro battlestation (https://www.geeklan.co.uk/files/fosdem2018-retro) FOSDEM OS distribution (https://twitter.com/pvaneynd/status/960181163578019840/photo/1) Update on two pledge-related changes (https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=151268831628549) *execpromises (https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=151304116010721&w=2) Slides for (BSD from scratch - from source to OS with ease on NetBSD) (https://www.geeklan.co.uk/files/fosdem2018-bsd/) Goobyte LastPass: You're fired! (https://blog.crashed.org/goodbye-lastpass/) *** Feedback/Questions Scott - ZFS Mirror with SLOG (http://dpaste.com/22Z8C6Z#wrap) Troels - Question about compressed ARC (http://dpaste.com/3X2R1BV#wrap) Jeff - FreeBSD Desktop DNS (http://dpaste.com/2BQ9HFB#wrap) Jonathon - Bhyve and gpu passthrough (http://dpaste.com/0TTT0DB#wrap) ***