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Nissan gets a new CEO! Does that mean they will start producing great cars again? The guys discuss, and take on two car debates. Nick M. considers letting his fun car dream die, so the guys encourage him and find options. Then, Ben G. needs something for car camping. Social media questions ask why OEMs don't offer bench seats in higher trims, is the future of car reviews done from the passenger seat, and why did George Jetson drive himself to work? Please rate + review us on iTunes, and subscribe to our two YouTube channels. Write us with your Car Debates, Car Conclusions, and Topic Tuesdays at everydaydrivertv@gmail.com or everydaydriver.com. Don't forget to share the podcast with your car enthusiast friends! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Jetsons: Rise, Fall, and Hanna-Barbera's Legacy Description: Delve into the enchanting universe of The Jetsons with J.R. as he navigates through the captivating story of this futuristic family, the challenges they faced, and their enduring impact. In this episode, explore the rise of The Jetsons, their beloved characters, the show's brief initial run, and its subsequent revival into a cult classic. Discover how The Jetsons crossed paths with another Hanna-Barbera favorite in a time-traveling encounter with The Flintstones, and learn about the powerhouse behind these iconic series—Hanna-Barbera. Join J.R. on this cosmic adventure that transcends time and generations. [Opening Music] Introduction (00:00 - 02:10) Welcome to West Virginia and Common Place, hosted by J.R. Introduction to The Jetsons, a 1960s space-age family show. The Jetsons Characters (02:11 - 08:45) Exploration of main characters: George Jetson, Jane Jetson, Judy Jetson, Elroy, Astro, and Rosie. Insights into each character's personality, traits, and relevance. Rise and Fall of The Jetsons (08:46 - 14:20) The show's brief one-season run due to financial constraints and high animation costs. The enduring popularity and cult status gained through reruns and later adaptations. Jetsons Meet the Flintstones (14:21 - 18:05) The crossover episodes that brought together The Jetsons and The Flintstones. Exploring the collision of two iconic families through time travel and the audience's reception. Hanna-Barbera's Legacy (18:06 - 24:40) The story of Hanna-Barbera, creators of The Jetsons and other beloved classics. Evolution of Hanna-Barbera's contributions to the animation world and its ties to Cartoon Network. Conclusion and Sign-off (24:41 - 30:00) Recap of The Jetsons' impact, Hanna-Barbera's legacy, and its transition into Cartoon Network. Encouragement for audience interaction, thoughts, and favorite Jetsons moments. [Closing Music] Show Notes: The Jetsons, a 1960s space-age family show, captured audiences with its futuristic setting and iconic characters: George, Jane, Judy, Elroy, Astro, and Rosie. The show faced financial challenges and aired for only one season but gained a devoted fan base through reruns and adaptations, becoming a cult classic. "The Jetsons Meet the Flintstones" crossover episodes brought together two iconic families, showcasing their enduring popularity. Hanna-Barbera, the creative force behind The Jetsons, began in the '50s and produced numerous beloved shows, leaving a lasting legacy in animation history. Hanna-Barbera's influence continued into Cartoon Network, shaping modern-day animated entertainment. Join J.R. on this cosmic adventure as he navigates through The Jetsons' story, their timeless characters, and the legacy of Hanna-Barbera in this intriguing episode of West Virginia and Common Place.

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Find out how Mel Blanc and Henry Corden helped inspire JEFF BERGMAN to continue the voice acting magic of a galaxy of classic cartoon stars. 

August 1-7, 2004 This week Ken welcomes Maine's own Ricky from the Old Sorts of Words YouTube Channel. Ken and Ricky discuss hey girl hey, Judge Dredd, Millie the Model, how impressed Ken is by Patsy Walker, Tank Girl, UK Comics, pre MCU Comic Book Movies, Addams Family, the Addams Family movies, Krypto, being terrified of wrestling promos, Edward Gorey, going by nicknames of our given name, Charles vs Chaz, comics trying to appeal to people who didn't read comics, Cousin It, Spider-Woman, copyright wars, Helen Slater as Supergirl, horny George Jetson and how big he is a fan of Seven of Nine, Con photos, Coneheads, It's Pat, 90s movie soundtracks, RHCP, Gomez, The Michael Jordan of Gameshows, Press Your Luck, Michael Jordan of Michael Jordans, Anna Nicole Smith, how sad it is when the entertainment industry destroys somebody, Highlander, X-Files, The Invaders, The Prisoner, Ultraman, the horrors of anime, Bubblegum Crisis, Vampire Hunter D, Legend of the Overfiend, Star Trek the Next Generation, what you'd cosplay as at a comic con, leather jump suits, Deep Space Nine, Comic Cons After Dark, Munsters sculptures, Halloweentown, Stallone, Demolition Man, Cliffhanger, Batman the Animated Series, why Kevin Conroy is the best Batman, Ben Affleck, Adventure Comics, loving dogs, Superman, Superman the Animated Series, the last digest issue of TV Guide, Maury, Corn Pops, Lucky Charms, spending a lot of time on the toilet, Reese's Puffs, lose and blue, Fresh Prince, Law and Order, surf culture, Step Into the Liquid, Endless Summer, Falling Down, the death of Raoul Julia, having never seen a single minute of a Fast and the Furious film, Vin Diesel's resurrection, The Simpsons, the "I Love The..." shows, ultimate top 20 Party Blondes, "After Dark", cigarettes in NH, Big Joe's Smokeshop by mail, Lord of Rings Too, all the Wayneses, Tiger Cruise, Man in the Mirror, confusing Michael Jackson for The Crow, how the Saudis own The Apprentice, gross Billy Bush, gross Fox News personalities, bloviating, Spy vs Spy and Cheering Mountain Dew. 

Ben Maller & Danny G. have a fun Friday for you! They Talk: Netflix Star, the Illuminati, George Jetson, Foodie Fun, Phrase of the Week, & more! ...Follow, rate & review "The Fifth Hour!" https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-fifth-hour-with-ben-maller/id1478163837 #BenMallerSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's time to go "looney" with the one and only Jeff Bergman! Jim voices iconic characters such as Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Sylvester, Tweety and more. On top of that, he's also a legend of Hanna Barbera, providing voices for characters such as Fred Flintstone, Barney Rubble, George Jetson and Yogi Bear.Support Jim on Patreon for EXCLUSIVE CONTENT including EARLY & AD-FREE ACCESS, DISNEY AUDIO COMMENTARIES, PRIZE DRAWS and more by joining the Toon'd In! family today at patreon.com/jimcummingspodcastFor more information on Jim's upcoming appearances, visit jimcummingsworld.comOrder a cameo from Jim at cameo.com/toondinjimcummingsCHECK OUT FOUR FINGER DISCOUNT'S OTHER PODCASTS:Four Finger Discount (Simpsons) - spreaker.com/show/four-finger-discount-simpsons-podcastGoin' Down To South Park - spreaker.com/show/goin-down-to-south-parkThe One About Friends - spreaker.com/show/the-one-about-friends-podcastSpeaKing Of The Hill - spreaker.com/show/speaking-of-the-hill-a-king-of-the-hill-Talking Seinfeld - spreaker.com/show/talking-seinfeldTales Of Futurama - futuramapodcast.com Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/toon-d-in-with-jim-cummings--5863067/support.

Advanced air mobility (AAM) is a new classification of aircraft that can provide a new form of aerial transportation for short distances, with a wide range of applications. Even better, it might even see use within the next decade thanks to multiple companies developing their own AAM vehicle programs. Of course, developing and operating a new type of aircraft is bound to run into new obstacles. What can be done to assist companies in navigating them? In this episode, Todd Tuthill, Vice President of A&D for Siemens Digital Industries Software, continues his introduction of the concept of AAM. After reiterating the four key challenges companies working in AAM will be facing he then describes how digital transformation can help companies overcome the hurdles of AAM development, and how such a digital transformation would be different for legacy aerospace companies and newer AAM startups.   In this episode, you will learn: The most significant challenges for AAM programs How digital transformation can bolster AAM development How digital transformation will be different between new startups and established A&D companies   Connect with Todd Tuthill: LinkedIn Connect with Patty Russo: LinkedIn Resources: Siemens Aerospace & Defense website

The aerospace and defense industry has so many exciting technologies being developed. One that might be brought to fruition in the coming years is advanced air mobility (AAM), a new class of aircraft that promises fast transport for cargo and passengers across short distances such as between and within cities. However, there are multiple challenges to overcome to see AAM vehicles become widespread. How can digital transformation aid that goal? In this episode, Todd Tuthill, Vice President of A&D for Siemens Digital Industries Software, kicks off a new arc exploring AAM and its challenges by introducing the concept of AAM vehicles. He goes into the different requirements and considerations AAM has compared to traditional aircraft, and identifies the four key challenges for companies in the AAM sector.   In this episode, you will learn: The definition of what AAM vehicles are How they differ from existing aircraft The largest challenges companies working in AAM will face   Connect with Todd Tuthill: LinkedIn Connect with Patty Russo: LinkedIn Resources: Siemens Aerospace & Defense website

“The Jetsons” premiered in 1962. And based on the internal math of the show, George Jetson, the dad, was born in 2022. He'd be a toddler right now. And we are so far away from the world that show imagined. There were a lot of future-trippers in the 1960s, and most of them would be pretty disappointed by how that future turned out.So what happened? Why didn't we build that future?The answer, I think, lies in the 1970s. I've been spending a lot of time studying that decade in my work, trying to understand why America is so bad at building today. And James Pethokoukis has also spent a lot of time looking at the 1970s, in his work trying to understand why America is less innovative today than it was in the postwar decades. So Pethokoukis and I are asking similar questions, and circling the same time period, but from very different ideological vantages.Pethokoukis is a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, and author of the book “The Conservative Futurist: How to Create the Sci-Fi World We Were Promised.” He also writes a newsletter called Faster, Please! “The two screamingly obvious things that we stopped doing is we stopped spending on science, research and development the way we did in the 1960s,” he tells me, “and we began to regulate our economy as if regulation would have no impact on innovation.”In this conversation, we debate why the '70s were such an inflection point; whether this slowdown phenomenon is just something that happens as countries get wealthier; and what the government's role should be in supporting and regulating emerging technologies like A.I.Mentioned:“U.S. Infrastructure: 1929-2017” by Ray C. FairBook RecommendationsWhy Information Grows by Cesar HidalgoThe Expanse series by James S.A. CoreyThe American Dream Is Not Dead by Michael R. StrainThoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs.This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Rollin Hu. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Mary Marge Locker and Kate Sinclair. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The show's production team also includes Annie Galvin, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. And special thanks to Sonia Herrero.

Voice actor, Jeff Bergman is on the show. He's the man behind several legacy cartoon characters including George Jetson and Fred Flintstone. He was also the first to perform Bugs Bunny after Mel Blanc passed away in 1987.Plus, Clark makes a surprising discovery about the Dallas Mavericks and the Stars. Also, the show says goodbye to Red Lobster. Watch the ShowYouTube.com/@michaelzavalaFollow the Boys:Michael Zavala @michaelzavalaEric Star @mrericstarClark @justsimplyclarkFollow the Show:Instagram: @mznowtvwww.MZNOW.tvProduced at mzStudiosmzStudiosDallas.com

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  If you're feeling frustrated because your current hiring process is only bringing in mediocre sales talent, then you are not alone! You may already be spending countless hours sifting through resumes and conducting interviews, only to end up with sales professionals who lack the drive and results you need. Instead of seeing a boost in sales team performance, you're stuck dealing with underperformers who are holding your team back. It's time to make a change and attract the A-level sales talent your team needs to succeed. In this episode of The Modern Selling Podcast, Doug Dvorak, Motivational Sales Speaker, Trainer & Sales Performance Coach, shares his insights on attracting A-level sales talent. Doug is one of the most well-traveled keynote motivational speakers available today. Doug has earned his spot in the motivational speaking hall of fame. He has also been inducted into the International Who's Who of Professional Speaking. Doug Dvorak's journey from being a seasoned sales representative to a leader in sales talent acquisition is a compelling narrative of resilience and vision. His career spans the burgeoning era of the Internet, selling data communication products, to leading global sales teams in the realm of manufacturing enterprise software. Doug's story is a testament to the fact that attracting A-level sales talent is not just about skill; it's about creating an environment that resonates with top performers. His journey encapsulates the essence of perseverance and a relentless pursuit of excellence in sales talent acquisition. We can't sell as Fred Flintstone anymore. We're George Jetson. And AI is in support to allow us to get more FaceTime, email time, phone time, zoom times. That's the only time we make money. - Doug Dvorak This week's special guest is Doug Dvorak, the founder and managing principal of the Sales Coaching Institute, bringing with him a wealth of experience as a professional sales representative and keynote speaker. Having spearheaded sales of data communication products, web browser technology, and enterprise software to global giants such as IBM and John Deere, Doug's expertise in attracting and retaining A-level sales talent is unparalleled. In this episode you will learn to: Master the art of hiring and retaining sales talent can transform your sales team's performance. Discover the secrets to attracting A-level sales talent and elevating your team's success. Uncover the power of using sales assessments for hiring top-performing sales professionals. Learn sales compensation plan best practices to motivate and reward your sales team effectively. Explore the impact of AI on sales leadership and how it can revolutionize your sales strategies. The key moments in this episode are: 00:00:08 - Introduction to the podcast 00:01:25 - Doug's Background and Experience 00:09:02 - Hiring A-Level Talent 00:13:51 - Strategies for Hiring Senior Talent 00:16:03 - Attracting and Retaining A-Players 00:17:49 - Attracting and Retaining Great Sales Talent 00:18:50 - Hiring Process and Assessments 00:20:32 - Vetting Candidates and Cultural Fit 00:26:17 - Elements of a Successful Sales Compensation Plan 00:31:42 - Avoiding Complex Compensation Plans 00:35:01 - Importance of Compensation in Sales Leadership 00:36:39 - Impact of Technology on Sales Leadership 00:43:24 - Embracing AI in Sales 00:46:03 - Leveraging Technology in Sales 00:49:41 - Connecting with Doug Dvorak Timestamped summary of this episode: 00:00:08 - Introduction to the podcast Mario Martinez Jr. introduces the podcast and the guest, Doug Dvorak, founder of the Sales Coaching Institute. 00:01:25 - Doug's Background and Experience Doug Dvorak shares his background as a former sales representative and leader, and his transition to founding the Sales Coaching Institute in 2005. 00:09:02 - Hiring A-Level Talent Doug discusses the importance of having a well-constructed hiring process and building a farm system to identify and groom A-level sales talent, including partnerships with colleges and universities. 00:13:51 - Strategies for Hiring Senior Talent Doug suggests establishing strong relationships with search professionals who have expertise in the industry to help in the search for senior talent, as well as leveraging referrals from current senior reps. 00:16:03 - Attracting and Retaining A-Players Mario emphasizes the importance of leaders being interviewed by potential hires, and discusses the significance of personal brand and culture in attracting and retaining top talent. 00:17:49 - Attracting and Retaining Great Sales Talent Doug discusses the importance of branding to attract top sales talent and shares insights on the hiring process using the top grading system. 00:18:50 - Hiring Process and Assessments Doug elaborates on the top grading system and the use of sales assessment tools like Gallup's challenger or disk, as well as the importance of conducting thorough reference checks. 00:20:32 - Vetting Candidates and Cultural Fit Doug emphasizes the significance of vetting candidates through online assessments, interviews, and reference checks to ensure cultural fit and mutual value for both the employer and the candidate. 00:26:17 - Elements of a Successful Sales Compensation Plan Doug highlights the key elements of a successful sales compensation plan, including a reasonable base, non-recoverable draw, clear KPIs, and accelerators to motivate and attract top sales talent. 00:31:42 - Avoiding Complex Compensation Plans Doug discusses the negative impact of complex and changeable compensation plans, emphasizing the importance of simplicity, transparency, and fair compensation to retain and motivate A players in the sales team. 00:35:01 - Importance of Compensation in Sales Leadership Doug emphasizes that the compensation of sales leaders should be less than top performers. He discusses the impact of compensation on behavior and the mistake of promoting the best rep to a leadership role. 00:36:39 - Impact of Technology on Sales Leadership Doug delves into the effects of technology, specifically AI, on sales leadership. He highlights the game-changing nature of AI in automating manual tasks and freeing up time for sales leaders and reps. 00:43:24 - Embracing AI in Sales Doug stresses the importance of AI augmenting sales reps and leaders rather than replacing them. He discusses the productivity savings and the need for data-driven decision making in sales. 00:46:03 - Leveraging Technology in Sales Doug emphasizes the role of AI in supporting sales reps to get more FaceTime, email time, phone time, and zoom time to drive meaningful conversations. He underscores the importance of humanization and contextual relevance in engagement. 00:49:41 - Connecting with Doug Dvorak Doug shares his contact information for connecting with him directly and mentions his website and phone number for further engagement. Hire and Retain Top Sales Talent Finding and keeping high-level sales professionals can be a game-changing strategy for organizations looking to expand their business. A thorough hiring process can include elements such as a detailed sales assessment, a well-structured interview, and even asking candidates to submit videos to demonstrate their skills and motivation. In addition, a comprehensive onboarding process and a transparent, easy-to-understand compensation plan can promote staff retention and encourage top performers to stay with the company. Attract A-Level Sales Professionals Attracting top-notch sales talent requires a strategic approach that goes beyond just offering a decent salary. Companies need to work on their branding, create a dynamic sales culture, and establish processes that can identify and attract A-level talent continuously. Forming partnerships with universities to offer internships can also provide a much-needed funnel to attract and assess potential candidates that can later become full-time hires. Power of Sales Assessments Sales assessments have evolved to become an essential tool in the hiring process, providing deep insights into a candidate's sales aptitude, personality, leadership skills, and more. Tools like Gallup's challenger or DISC can help verify if a candidate's skill set matches the job requirements and how comfortably they can fit in with the company's culture. They serve as an effective complement to reference checks and interviews, helping to ensure that hires are not only capable but also motivated and a good cultural fit. Connect with Doug Dvorak directly via https://dougdvorak.com/ Download FlyMSG.io for free to save 20 hours or more in a month and increase productivity. FlyMSG is a free text expander and personal writing assistant. Check out the 100 best chat GBT prompts and the best LinkedIn Chat GPT prompts available on Vengreso's website for AI-powered engagement. Give the Modern Selling Podcast a five-star rating and review on iTunes to show support and help the podcast reach more listeners. https://www.facebook.com/GoVengreso https://www.twitter.com/twitter.com/govengreso https://www.linkedin.com/company/vengreso https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtx5qy9xPdmQ4cL0aX50rTA?sub_confirmation=1 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtx5qy9xPdmQ4cL0aX50rTA?sub_confirmation=1

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In this episode, Ric explores the world's first flying electric taxi and how it's revolutionizing transportation with its autonomous capabilities. He examines how this innovative vehicle is a significant step forward in travel technology, offering a glimpse into the future of efficient and sustainable mobility. Additionally, Ric reveals investment opportunities in exponential technologies, highlighting the role of Global X ETFs in accessing these emerging markets.Subscribe to podcast updates: https://form.jotform.com/223614751580152Ask Ric: https://www.thetayf.com/pages/ask-ric-----Links from today's show:The Chinese EH216-S Is Officially the World's First Certified Autonomous Air Taxi: https://www.autoevolution.com/news/the-chinese-eh216-s-is-officially-the-worlds-first-certified-autonomous-air-taxi-222817.htmlMirae Asset Financial Group: https://global.miraeasset.com/Global X Lithium and Battery Tech ETF (Symbol is LIT): https://www.globalxetfs.com/funds/lit/Global X Nasdaq 100 Covered Call ETF (Symbol is QYLD): https://www.globalxetfs.com/funds/qyld/Charting Disruption: https://partners.wsj.com/global-x-etfs/charting-disruption/105 ETFs on Thematic Investing in Exponential Technologies: https://www.globalxetfs.com/explore/-----Follow Ric on social media:Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RicEdelmanInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/ric_edelman/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ricedelman/X: https://twitter.com/ricedelmanYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RicEdelman-----Brought to you by:Global X ETFs: https://www.globalxetfs.com/Invesco QQQ: https://www.invesco.com/qqq-etf/en/home.htmlSchwab: https://www.schwab.com/Disclosure page: https://www.thetayf.com/pages/sponsorship-disclosure-fee-----

It's another one of those weeks that flies by as we are washed up in the world of madness. We take a moment to step outside the chaos and dive into the rabbit holes of our madness. We look into the weirdness of the future going on with George Jetson. Huw has his grievance with Apple but that isn't anything new. We dive into the Rock'N'Roll Hall of Fame inductions. Take a moment to talk about a few shows and the recent news was left on the shelf this week. There is no need for a depressing conversation while we can distract you to the best of our abilities this week with complete randomness of thought. Hopefully, everyone is safe out there and having a good day as you listen to our madness.

J Darrin Gross I'd like to ask you, Joe Moye and Dan Grosswald, what is the BIGGEST RISK?   Joe Moye   Yeah, I'd be happy to start with that. I think, you know, the the autonomous technology mobility area has done, it's probably done itself a little bit of a disservice of all the lofty expectations of these George Jetson scenarios of vehicles zipping all around our roadways in autonomous mode. And, and I don't think it's because anybody was derelict in their visions, I think it was just the reality that this is a walk before you run technology. You know, one of the things that we've hit on here that's so important, is starting with planned route, controlled speed environments, where you're able to mitigate a lot of the complex interactions, one would typically have one, you know, much more sophisticated or much larger routes for the traveling of a vehicle. You know, it is the technology is getting better and better every day, as you and I talked about before the call even applications, beyond moving people, you know, if you're moving boxes, or luggage or anything else, same type of technology that's being advanced to perceive an environment and be able to navigate a course. And so, you know, I think, I think it's important as an industry, that we, you know, evolve this together in these more controlled environments and not set false expectations of these vehicles will be able to go anywhere, anytime, any speed tomorrow. And I think from a risk perspective, you know, that dramatically reduces, you know, the chance that, you know, something would happen, but, but I'd also say, you know, at the end of the day, and you probably know these statistics better than I but you know, 43,000 people perished on us roadways. Last year alone, you know, incredible tragedy, the property damage associated with that, you know, the quality of life damage associated with that 94% of that caused by human error distraction impairment, these vehicles respond in a scenario three times faster than a human can identifying something and actuating a break, and they're never distracted, right, they're not staring at an iPhone, they're not going into the town center for a couple of drinks and getting behind the wheel. And that's, you know, that can't be lost in this, this is about, you know, saving lives and reducing risk as it relates to one of the biggest threats, you know, in our country today. So, So anyhow, that would be my my soapbox speech on that topic.   Dan Grosswald   We'd look at it from three perspectives. You know, first, the biggest, the biggest risk, really, from our perspective is human failure, the vehicle itself and the technology itself is, is very good. And as Joe pointed out, is better than a human being in terms of its safety factor. Really, what happens is either for packing a human acting from the outside of the system, you know, crashing into it, or taking advantage of the vehicle is a risk, not the vehicle or the system, or when it's not an autonomous mode, it's actually riskier than when it is in autonomous mode, sometimes the vehicle has to be manually moved. So the risk factor increases slightly, they're over when it's in autonomous mode. But the other the other two things. So we decided purposefully to create the dedicated path for the reasons that Joe mentioned earlier. So that helps us minimize the risk that it's not interacting on an open road or parking lot system as much as otherwise would be if we didn't have the trails. So and we did that for a reason. And finally, we've decided to have the CDD operated, so from a developer point of view, having to do CDD own and operate the vehicles gives us, you know, some sovereign immunity from what we would otherwise be exposed to as a corporation. So that's kind of how we viewed the risk and how we've tried to mitigate or transferred as you mentioned earlier,  

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The Netherlands and Iceland join the Artemis Accords. Finnish Earth observation company Kuva Space has successfully raised €16.6M in a latest funding round. The US Air Force Research Laboratory Space Vehicles Directorate has awarded Intuitive Machines a Joint Energy Technology Supplying On-Orbit Nuclear Power (JETSON) Low-power Mission Application contract worth $9.49 million, and more. Remember to leave us a 5-star rating and review in your favorite podcast app. Miss an episode? Sign-up for our weekly intelligence roundup, Signals and Space, and you'll never miss a beat. And be sure to follow T-Minus on LinkedIn and Instagram. T-Minus Guest Our guest today is David Caponio, Senior Vice President of Product and Business Development at Vast. You can connect with David on LinkedIn and learn more about Vast on their website. Selected Reading NASA Welcomes Netherlands as Newest Artemis Accords Signatory European Space Agency Shares Space Safety Programme Plans to Tackle Space Debris and Use AI to Boost Cyber-Resilience Polaris Spaceplane Update Hydrosat & Muon Space Team Up for 2024 launch of Multispectral Thermal IR Satellite AFRL Space Vehicles Directorate Selects Intuitive Machines to Provide Solutions for Nuclear-Powered Satellites My Suborbital Life Blog 3: The Suborbital Revolution Is Here -S. Alan Stern- NASA Watch Astroskin's first suborbital flight with Kellie Gerardi on Virgin Galactic's 05 mission Firehawk Aerospace Announces Development of 30-Square-Mile Launch Range for Hybrid Rocket Testing in West Texas- Newswire https://www.mea.gov.in/newsdetail1.htm?11613/ Rocket Lab Welcomes Lt. Gen. Nina Armagno to Board of Directors- Business Wire T-Minus Crew Survey We want to hear from you! Please complete our 4 question survey. It'll help us get better and deliver you the most mission-critical space intel every day. Want to hear your company in the show? You too can reach the most influential leaders and operators in the industry. Here's our media kit. Contact us at space@n2k.com to request more info. Want to join us for an interview? Please send your pitch to space-editor@n2k.com and include your name, affiliation, and topic proposal. T-Minus is a production of N2K Networks, your source for strategic workforce intelligence. © 2023 N2K Networks, Inc. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Flying cars, white wine on tap and ash trays by the bath. What possible wonders could the future hold? Whatever they are Giles hopes to live to see them but is pretty sure even with flying cars their will still be gridlock in the skies. Boris and Carrie's former nannie has hit the papers, demonstrating one of Esthers mottos, always pay the staff. And a man walks into a bar and the barman says: ”Are you sure you should be here?” Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

OUTLINE of today's show with TIMECODES WATCH Tesla's BESS (Battery Energy Storage System) MegaPack fire in Australia. Nothing to do but let it burn and release TOXIC GAS. At least in Australia they put it in the wilderness, NOT close to people as they are doing all over the USA in an expensive, vain attempt to make wind and solar work on the grid (2:30)Masks are coming back — universities, hospitals, Hollywood… (18:10) AP, Associated Press, does a hit piece on Constitutional Sheriffs. Trying to paint elected law enforcement as undemocratic who interpose against unelected bureaucrats and tyranny from state and feds as "violent" extremists (26:30)"The Big Kahn": Harbinger of Car Banning TacticsSadiq Kahn, the sadistic tyrant of London, is erecting surveillance cameras to instantly fine anyone who can't afford a new electric car. Residents are destroying the cameras so they have a new tactic in the war to decide if we'll live in the totalitarianism "green" dictatorship. And now, cameras to surveil you INSIDE your car to multiply fines (48:47) GeoFence Money — One Country Goes There w CBDCThe gift for totalitarians that never stops giving — CBDC. Can they be stopped? Yes. Individually and perhaps even collectively (1:03:02)Warren Buffet & Michael Burry Both Wearing "Big Shorts"What do these wise contrarians see that has them running for the financial exits that you need to know? (1:22:27) Murdering Nurse Gets Life in PrisonThe worst child killer in modern british history. It's amazing how her actions and the fight over her actions in the hospital, mirror what happened in hospitals during the Plandemic — as well as Planned Parenthood's "ethics" (1:32:02) Al Mohler, head of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, called out on his hypocrisy of supporting Trump — but he needs to be called out on his support of the the TRUMP SHOT (1:45:27)Babylon Bee: Six ways Jesus Failed to Love His Neighbor. This could've been written by Al Mohler when he shilled for the Fauci cult. And what does a Puritan preacher have to say to a nation like ours that has deserted God? (1:52:43)Flying cars are getting VERY close to reality thanks to DARPA. But unlike George Jetson, you will NOT own one (1:59:49) NATO & USA admit the Ukrainian counter-offensive is a failure, a suicide mission pushed by a megalomaniac, Zelensky (2:03:07)WATCH: I Remember America 2030. What did Ayn Rand get right and what did she miss? (2:09:05)"Rich Men North of Richmond" singer is even more grounded than he initially appeared. (2:19:26)Debates — a key farce in the farcical, rigged elections. It begins LONG before the voting starts (2:23:55)Biden is selling off materials to build the wall. But the problem won't be solved by rusting metal as long as the WELFARE MAGNET is pulling people into the country. () US-Mexico trade dispute over Genetically Modified corn. "Are we the baddies?" (2:45:35)Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHT

OUTLINE of today's show with TIMECODES WATCH Tesla's BESS (Battery Energy Storage System) MegaPack fire in Australia. Nothing to do but let it burn and release TOXIC GAS. At least in Australia they put it in the wilderness, NOT close to people as they are doing all over the USA in an expensive, vain attempt to make wind and solar work on the grid (2:30)Masks are coming back — universities, hospitals, Hollywood… (18:10) AP, Associated Press, does a hit piece on Constitutional Sheriffs. Trying to paint elected law enforcement as undemocratic who interpose against unelected bureaucrats and tyranny from state and feds as "violent" extremists (26:30)"The Big Kahn": Harbinger of Car Banning TacticsSadiq Kahn, the sadistic tyrant of London, is erecting surveillance cameras to instantly fine anyone who can't afford a new electric car. Residents are destroying the cameras so they have a new tactic in the war to decide if we'll live in the totalitarianism "green" dictatorship. And now, cameras to surveil you INSIDE your car to multiply fines (48:47) GeoFence Money — One Country Goes There w CBDCThe gift for totalitarians that never stops giving — CBDC. Can they be stopped? Yes. Individually and perhaps even collectively (1:03:02)Warren Buffet & Michael Burry Both Wearing "Big Shorts"What do these wise contrarians see that has them running for the financial exits that you need to know? (1:22:27) Murdering Nurse Gets Life in PrisonThe worst child killer in modern british history. It's amazing how her actions and the fight over her actions in the hospital, mirror what happened in hospitals during the Plandemic — as well as Planned Parenthood's "ethics" (1:32:02) Al Mohler, head of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, called out on his hypocrisy of supporting Trump — but he needs to be called out on his support of the the TRUMP SHOT (1:45:27)Babylon Bee: Six ways Jesus Failed to Love His Neighbor. This could've been written by Al Mohler when he shilled for the Fauci cult. And what does a Puritan preacher have to say to a nation like ours that has deserted God? (1:52:43)Flying cars are getting VERY close to reality thanks to DARPA. But unlike George Jetson, you will NOT own one (1:59:49) NATO & USA admit the Ukrainian counter-offensive is a failure, a suicide mission pushed by a megalomaniac, Zelensky (2:03:07)WATCH: I Remember America 2030. What did Ayn Rand get right and what did she miss? (2:09:05)"Rich Men North of Richmond" singer is even more grounded than he initially appeared. (2:19:26)Debates — a key farce in the farcical, rigged elections. It begins LONG before the voting starts (2:23:55)Biden is selling off materials to build the wall. But the problem won't be solved by rusting metal as long as the WELFARE MAGNET is pulling people into the country. () US-Mexico trade dispute over Genetically Modified corn. "Are we the baddies?" (2:45:35)Find out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-showOr you can send a donation throughMail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Zelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at: $davidknightshowBTC to: bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silverFor 10% off Gerald Celente's prescient Trends Journal, go to TrendsJournal.com and enter the code KNIGHT

OK, so it's not really George's last ride, but it is the last in our Saturday Morning 101 series. Is the Jetsons a prophetic look at our future? What did they get right so far? We'll take a deep dive into the fun and fright of the Hanna Barbera classic! 100% non-toxic and the only podcast fortified with 8 essential vitamins and minerals! "Can't Beat An Original" performed by he Murdering Crows. Get their album 4 Bad Crows where ever you buy music! New Loot Sponsored by Entertainment Earth - https://ee.toys/cerealbox Saturday Morning 101 sponsored by Nightly Spirits ghost tours - www.nightlyspirits.com and use promot code JohnP667 to take 10% off anywhere in the country at checkout! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/cerealboxpodcast/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/cerealboxpodcast/support

Welcome to another episode of the Astronomy Daily Podcast with your host, Steve Dunkley, and the AI assistant, Hallie. In this episode, we chat about meteor showers, a historical event involving the lunar roving vehicle, and the current state of space exploration. Here's what we covered:- We start off with a casual conversation about current meteor showers. Steve shares his disappointment in not being able to spot the meteors due to cloud cover in his area.- Our fun fact of the day looks back to July 31, 1971, when the lunar roving vehicle was first used on the moon during the Apollo 15 mission by astronauts James B. Irwin and David Scott.- We move on to a concerning update about NASA's Voyager 2, which has temporarily lost contact with Earth due to an accidental deviation of the antenna's alignment. Despite this, Voyager 2 continues along its planned trajectory, with the next automatic antenna reset scheduled for October 15th.- We discuss the promising future of lunar mining, exploring how private firms and international space agencies plan to extract resources like oxygen, water, and other materials from the moon to support life and build infrastructure.- The construction of a new spaceport in Scotland has been temporarily halted due to the discovery of archaeological findings at the building site, including shiny quartz, giant granite stones, and evidence of cremations from the Bronze Age.- For our science fiction fans, we look at upcoming space missions including the x-ray imaging and spectroscopy mission "Chrism" scheduled for launch from Japan's Tanegashima Space Center and the European Space Agency's "Platoh" mission set to launch in 2026, aiming to find Earth-like planets.- Steve wraps up the episode with a fun surprise story for fans of the 1960s cartoon "The Jetsons," discussing a meme that suggests George Jetson's birthday would be July 31, 2022.Join us again on Friday with Tim in Bath, England, and catch up with Steve and Hallie again on Monday for more Astronomy Daily.For more Astronomy Daily, visit our website via https://spacenuts.ioThis show is part of the Spreaker Prime Network, if you are interested in advertising on this podcast, contact us at https://www.spreaker.com/show/5648921/advertisement

Mason read a story about Shohei Ohtani and where he has spent his offseason in the past? Does it mean anything? Would it be a disaster if he doesn't end up with the Dodgers? Also, are you interested in doing something that George Jetson did? Mason has the story. How will it be regulated? can it be dangerous? Plus, we get a tad honest here, how many times did you cheat while you were in school? and we talk about how we had to deal with the early versions of the internet! and another edition of GAME OF GAMES and SUPER CROSSTALK with SEDANO and KAP! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Arkansas in Court, your News Update and paging George Jetson on this edition of ARBITRAGE NEWS WEEKEND Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/arbitrage. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Artificial intelligence (AI) is the lifeblood of the technologies driving today's global disruptions. And 2023 is the year that AI has been catapulted from novel idea to appearing on everyone's radar. The AI narratives span from the promise of a George Jetson future to fears of a dystopian takeover by AI-empowered robots—and everything in between. To sort this all out, I talked with AI expert Stephen McBride for his take on where we are today, and how to spot the industries and occupations that will be most affected.

Live from the Heart of America—I'm Steve Gruber—ready to deliver an inclusive and diverse discussion on the most important topics of the day—giving you better analysis and insight that anyone else—shining a spotlight on the cockroaches of the swamp—and delivering truth and justice just when hope was starting to fade—   Here are the 3 Big Things you need to know to start today—   Number One— The push to put insects on your menu is picking up speed—but honestly I don't care—I can hunt and fish my way past this stupidity—until that's illegal, which should take at least two more years—   Number Two— A former marine who choked out a dangerous criminal on the New York City Subway has been charged with manslaughter—and he has raked in millions for his criminal defense—while New Yorkers defend everything he did—   Number Three— It just seems the world is turning faster every day doesn't it?   I mean who doesn't feel like George Jetson on the treadmill with Astro running faster and faster?   Jane STOP this crazy thing—would you please?!?   But as I look around and I listen and watch what is happening here and around the world—it becomes more clear every day—that none of this appears to be an accident—   All of these terrible policies look like they have been years in the making— and that's because they have—   Each time you hear about some crazy idea and you think—nobody would ever buy into that—you should be thinking something altogether different—and that is—how long have they been working on this one—and is it too late to stop it?   Eating bugs? Yeah nobody would go for that—except that it is being pushed by the elites around the world to –“save the planet”—the same goes for bulldozing American and European power plants—I mean we would never do that in exchange for random power based on when the the wind might blow or the sun shines without clouds—except that is exactly what we are doing—   How long ago does the year 2000 seem to you right now? I know I'm asking a lot of questions today—but you have to understand that the United Nations Agenda 2030 is very real and very dangerous not only to us and America—BUT to the entire free world—and remember, only about 30% of the world is actually considered free—the vast majority of the nations on the planet are ones that do not allow for Freedom to flourish—they don't care about free speech or the freedom of religion—because they cannot and will not be bothered by such unimportant things—those governments rule with authority and many with an iron fist—they operate with near total control of the populations—   That's why our southern border is being overrun—and our nation threatened with extinction—BUT I will get back to that is just a second but first—lets take a look back at when this really took off—and it was not very long ago—   That's right the Junior Senator from Illinois was the one that was elected in 2008—at least that is what we were told—and it really doesn't matter anyway—because he was in office for 8 years—and he promised us things would be different with him in charge—and Barack Obama delivered on those promises—   Today, the results of those dangerous policies are really setting in—and the question remains— can we ever stop it?   Today we know that ever since Joe Biden stumbled into the White House to keep the Obama transformation going starting about two and a half years ago—that over 6.5 million illegal aliens have streamed into this country—NO Democrat will admit that—BUT the numbers don't lie—and over the weekend—more than 10,000 a day are coming in—and those are the ones we can confirm—   The transformation of America is in full swing in 2023—   And it really doesn't matter what question you ask—there is a pat manufactured answer—that is totally disconnected from the truth and reality that comes out—and this is true across the Administration—it is one bogus talking point after another— What is truly remarkable is that those on the left—whether they are Democrats, Socialists or faux journalists at the New York Times, Washington Post or MSNBC—and honestly, can anyone tell the difference between them anymore—no, but what is truly remarkable is the ease with which they avoid taking blame for anything while at the same time wildly waving their fingers to blame just about anyone else—no matter how far-fetched it really is—   There are those ready to fight back—BUT again—why is Texas allowing itself to be overrun? The same with New Mexico, Arizona and California—why would the governors—no matter what their politics—allow this to happen?   The truth is—at this rate— by the time Joe Biden completes one term—we will have allowed nearly 10 million illegals into the country—despite a federal judge telling the Administration what its doing is illegal—    And again—it doesn't matter to those on the left—whether they are in politics—academia—or the media—they regurgitate the same dishonest talking points—but every now and then—they get fried for it—  

On this Random Hit, Shawn and Mark talk about a well-known celebrity's birthday, dog names, and a river troll. Pretty normal things. Mark messes up Chris Hemsworth's name, which leads to a new version of the Thor movies. The guys also give bad movie plot summaries with Sloppy Synopsis, and though it does no justice to the popular films, it's absolutely hilarious! The fellas close it down by talking about celebrity, television and movie weddings. Plus the Maroon of the Week and a trip to Uncle Mark's Joke Bag. Rebrand Tuesday with some comedy and nostalgia! Subscribe and tell your friends about another funny episode of Randomosity with Shawn and Mark.

We all know the term called helicopter parenting where we swoop in to save and protect our kids from failure, pain or disappointment.   But, today that is not the term we are unpacking and you'll be shocked how today will help you. Ego roars its strongest voice when we Edge God Out. We will learn together how to detach your ego and use George Jetson as your inspiration. You don't want to miss this one! When we are able to master this concept in our lives then we create more harmony in our home. Subscribe on Apple! Subscribe on Android! Join my FREE parenting bootcamp! Let's Connect! Here's where you can find me: Learn more at https://www.coachingkelly.com. Find me on Instagram! Find me on Facebook!

Before COVID-19 came to America in early 2020, “going to court” literally meant putting on your shoes and walking into a courthouse, typically a large building with courtrooms inside, and people in robes and business suits and, in some cases, more restrictive attire.  Stoked by necessity, courts sprinted toward solutions for keeping the wheels of justice spinning while also keeping everyone away from each other. Until then it didn't seem possible that attorneys could or would appear before judges via digital screens, like George Jetson getting yelled at by Mr. Spacely over some hilarious mishap at the sprocket factory.Pew Charitable Trust concluded an in-depth study of the courts with the 2021 release of a report,  “How Courts Embraced Technology, Met the Pandemic Challenge, and Revolutionized Their Operations.” After examining emergency orders from all 50 states and Washington, D.C., and court approaches to virtual hearings, e-filing, and digital notarization, the researchers wrote that it was a time for "reimagining how to administer justice.” Was the adoption of technology effective? Were there any hiccups? Was technology widely embraced? Were the effects of new efficiencies enjoyed evenly across the socio-economic spectrum? Do we think courts will continue to reimagine how they administer justice without the crushing pressure of widespread disease? Listen to my interview with Qudsiya Naqui who leads Pew's research at the intersection of technology and civil legal system reform. In this role, she evaluates and tests new technologies to ensure that they further efficiency, equity, and transparency in the legal process. This work is part of Pew's Civil Justice Modernization Project. Before joining Pew, Qudsiya designed and implemented immigration, housing, and disaster recovery legal services programs at Equal Justice Works and the Vera Institute of Justice. She began her legal career representing immigrant women and girls seeking relief from deportation.Qudsiya holds a bachelor's degree in political science and human rights from Barnard College and a Juris Doctor from Temple University.For more information about their work and the research, contact them at media@pewtrusts.org.This podcast is the audio companion to the Journal on Emerging Issues in Litigation. The Journal is a collaborative project between HB Litigation Conferences and the Fastcase legal research family, which includes Full Court Press, Law Street Media, and Docket Alarm. The podcast itself is a joint effort between HB and our friends at Law Street Media. If you have comments or wish to participate in one our projects please drop me a note at Editor@LitigationConferences.com. Tom Hagy Litigation Enthusiast and Host of the Emerging Litigation Podcast Home Page LinkedIn 

We have a return guest this week! Author of the "Less Beaten Paths of America" book series, David Kravitz, joined Sam & Richey!David was our guest on our 1-Year Birthaversary episode, on October 3, 2020!Richey wasn't on that episode, so he fully met David, and the conversations were PLENTY!David shares what he does for comicbook.com, and how his typical day usually progresses. He gets up at what time?!The guys talk about David's books, and some of the places he's ventured, and Sam asks about Riverside, IA!David was an original Trekkie! How is it that shows have "predicted" advancements in technology, and how we do things today?!OH, did we all know George Jetson was born in 2022? We also talk to David about his most recent book, and how 100% of the proceeds go to the maintenance of the Sheltowee Trace!It's a great time with a great person! So, sit back, relax, and enjoy our time with David Kravitz!Get David's most recent book here: https://www.amazon.com/Driving-Sheltowee-Trace-Perspectives-Support-ebook/dp/B09MRDDKS5?ref_=ast_author_dp

How Wikipedia editors are bringing more nuance into their decisions and what ripple effects that can have on a website that increasingly defines our shared reality. Plus, how do you refer to historical figures who may have been trans? And a veritable laundry list of attempted Wikipedia hoaxes––including the recent discovery of what is most likely Representative George Santos' Wikipedia user bio from over a decade ago, and its many, many creative lies.Links:The Culture Wars Look Different on Wikipedia (The Atlantic)My video on talking about potentially trans people from history (Jackson Bird, YouTube) The debate over George Jetson's birthday (Cool Stuff Ride Home) The Mr. Pringles hoax (Cool Stuff Ride Home) The fabricated Scots Wikipedia pages (Cool Stuff Ride Home)George Santos appears to admit drag queen past in Wiki post (Politico)The High Five Wikipedia page love story (Cool Stuff Ride Home) Depths of Wiki on TwitterJackson Bird on TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kristin shares her birthday plans, we learn George Jetson facts, Ryan gets UM ACTUALLY'd, and we learn about all the times Kristin laughed at some dumb stuff. Starring Brian Altano, Scott Bromley, Ryan Scott, Max Scoville, and Kristin Van De Yar.

You like it over there? Good. Go there. Moses lays out a very narrow, perilous pathway for the congregation to follow to the land of Milk and Urine. It's official: Rusty is just SOOO much f'ing smarter than Scott! --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/libel-the-bible/support

In this week's episode, Randall has Josh Poertner on to talk aerodynamics. In a wide-ranging conversation, the two touch upon Josh's time as Technical Director at Zipp, involvement in the development of computational models for rotating wheels, early collaboration with Cervelo founders Phil White and Gerard Vroomen, founding and leadership of the product brand Silca and The Marginal Gains Podcast, and ongoing consulting work with elite athletes and teams. Silca Website  Marginal Gains Podcast Episode Sponsor: Logos Components  Support the Podcast Join The Ridership  Automated Transcription, please excuse the typos: Silca - Josh Poertner [00:00:00] Craig Dalton: Hello, and welcome to the gravel ride podcast, where we go deep on the sport of gravel cycling through in-depth interviews with product designers, event organizers and athletes. Who are pioneering the sport I'm your host, Craig Dalton, a lifelong cyclist who discovered gravel cycling back in 2016 and made all the mistakes you don't need to make. I approach each episode as a beginner down, unlock all the knowledge you need to become a great gravel cyclist. This week on the show, I'm handing the microphone back to my co-host Randall Jacobs. Who's got Josh Portner, the CEO of Silka on the shout out a wide range in conversation about the sport and high performance. Many of you may be familiar with the storied Silka brand. It's been around for close to a hundred years. But josh took over back in 2013 with a mission of merging the highest quality materials and craftsmanship with cutting edge design and manufacturing When you visit the Silca website, you notice a tagline, the pursuit of perfection, never settling, always improving. And I think that embodies how Josh approaches the sport. . So I'm excited to pass you over to Randall to dig into this conversation. Before we jump in i want to thank this week sponsor logos components Yeah, I've been itching to get back on a set of six 50 B wheels, and I've been waiting for my logo's components, wheels to arrive. They literally just arrived last night and I'm super stoked. But yet disappointed because I have to go away for the weekend and I won't be able to actually ride them until sometime next week. I chose the Atara six 50 B model. As you know, I'm sort of big on the big tires, big fun philosophy. So I've been eager on my unicorn, which I've been riding on a 700 SEASET for a while now. To get into the six 50 bees again and see what a six 50 by 50 combined with that rock shock fork is going to yield for me on the trails here in Marin. You guys may remember. Me sitting down with Randall, talking about what makes a great gravel wheel set and everything that went into these logos component wheels. I encourage you to go back to that conversation because whether or not the logo's wheel set is for you or not. I think Randall does an excellent job of teasing out. All the various considerations. You should be having when considering buying a gravel wheelset, It is no small expense when getting into a carbon wheel set, but the team at logos has endeavored with their direct consumer model. Uh, to make it as affordable as possible and make them as durable and high performing as anything out there on the market. I written wheels designed by Randall for the last three years. So I'm super excited. To see his latest vision come to fruition. With these new wheels and I'll have them underneath me soon enough. I encourage you to check them out@logoscomponents.com. Randall's also an active member of the ridership community. So if you have questions for him, feel free to join us over there at the ridership and connect with other riders. I seen people paying that their wheels have arrived so you can get some real, real people answering your questions. About whether they're enjoying the wheelset and how they perform, et cetera. And I'll have more on this in future additions. At this point. I'm going to hand the microphone over to Randall. And i hope you enjoy this conversation with josh [00:03:30] Randall: Josh Portner, thank you for joining us on the podcast. This is a conversation I've been looking forward to for quite some time. Some deep bike nerdy is probably about to ensue, so, uh, let's dive, let's hope. Dive right into it. [00:03:43] Josh: Well, thank you for having me. Always, always up for some deep bike. Nerdy. I like that. [00:03:49] Randall: So a number of our listeners will already know who you are, but just give folks a high level summary of what you do now. [00:03:55] Josh: Oh gosh. So I own Silca, um, or I own Arrow Mind, which, uh, owns the Silca brand and trademark, um, and, and all that that entails. And then we also have a, uh, we own Marginal Gains, which is a podcast and a YouTube channel. And, um, Yeah, our goal is to, a mind works with a lot of pro riders, pro teams, world tour teams. Um, you know, we do everything, Excuse me. We do everything from, you know, performance consulting, uh, modeling, uh, you know, setting up our record attempts for people or, or helping them design our record attempts. Um, you know, we do tire pressure work with pros. We do equipment choices for teams. We think some of the most interesting stuff we do, um, is around where like, uh, teams or national federations don't trust the equipment they're getting from somebody. And they'll come to us and say, you know, the, you know, bike brand X says that this does this, and our writers don't think so. Can you tell us what's true? And. We'll find a way to make that happen. So we, we've had some pretty interesting ones of those with, uh, particularly around the Olympics with the national federations. You know, no, nobody wants to have another Under Armor speeds skating suit, uh, situation, , right? Where all the, all the athletes think something is true and therefore it becomes true and, and nobody knows. And so, um, you know, so we do a lot of that. Arrow mind does that, essentially. And so that's a lot of the performance work I was doing in my old world. I was technical director at ZIP for almost 15 years. Um, and, and then Silca is the product arm of the company. Uh, that's probably how, you know, most people know us. You know, we make pumps and tools and, and, but we also make a lot of crazy things that people look at me and go, Oh, where the hell did that come from? Well, that probably came from some project or another. We did it in the Arrow Mind side of the business, Um mm-hmm. . So that's how we've gotten into sealants and lubricants and 3D printing and, and all sorts of other craziness. Right? That's sort of how the one flows into the other. And then, you know, Marginal Gains is a podcast and, and YouTube channel where we talk about it all and, and we, we typically with a, a team or a company have like a two year. Secrecy period on a technology. And then after that we can do something with it and, and talk about it and tell the story. So, you know, it's always, it's always fun to go through those periods where like, Oh, thank God we can talk about that now, . Cause you know, we're talking about it internally all the time. And, and you're like, Oh, can we put that in the podcast? I don't know. So, so that, that's what I do now. We, I, I play with bikes basically. [00:06:34] Randall: Very, very cool. And, um, when you talk about the consulting work you do, is this kind of full stack performance consulting, is it very a focused, is it all technical sides, including say, like bearing drag or, or things like this? Is it, um, obviously positioning falls into Arrow Nutrition. Like where, where do you, ooh, where does your domain physiology start? [00:06:57] Josh: And I draw the line at physiology, you know, there's a whole, there, there are people who are, are like my equivalent in that world. And, and my God, I can never even dream to. You know, clean their shoes. So, um, no, you, you need someone to talk physiology, you know, And I'll, I'll pull my phone out and we'll call Allen Li or somebody, you know, Yeah. With a bunch of contacts. But, uh, you know, Alan's one of my favorite go-tos for things like that and be like, Oh dude, I've been over my head help . You know, [00:07:21] Randall: he, he's, um, he's actually been on the pod before, but Craig interviewed him, so I might bring him on in the future to do, you know, my, my more kind of nerdy type of interview. Alan's great. Yeah, no, [00:07:31] Josh: he's, he's a lovely guy. He's a lovely guy. And, and I just love, I mean, he, you know, like I find myself pretty quickly sometimes getting into places where people's eyes just glaze over, like, what the hell is this guy talking about? And, you know, I love that Alan can do that to me in about 30 seconds, you know, we're talking about the stuff that he does. You're like, Oh, whoa, shit, way over my head way. I, I didn't even recognize the last four words that you used in that sentence, . And, uh, so it's, it's awesome to be able to be surrounded by people with that. But no, you know, we. The stuff that they come to us for. I mean, you know, when I left sip and started soak, of course everybody and their brother, you know, came and said, Oh, design us a wheel. I'm like, well, like I can't do that for a couple years. But also I'm kind of just done with that, you know, like I've lived that life. I, you know, it, it was fun. But, you know, we, we continually updated wheels for 15 years, but it, it really is kinda like doing the same thing over and over again, you know? And, and so it just wasn't fun for me. So, you know, they'll come and say, um, you know, help us design this cockpit, or we, we do a lot of, with our, our in-house, uh, 3D titanium printing, we do a lot of custom cockpits for, uh, teams, riders, things like that. You know, where we laser scan the rider, get the position, lock that down to the wind tunnel, design the part, 3D print it, um, you know, stuff like that, that, that's really exciting. We, we'd get a lot of, you know what, um, You know, help us optimize for this time trial at the tour or the Olympics or whatever, where, you know, what tires should we run and we can, we have systems and tools and, and spreadsheets and a million other things that we can, um, Yeah. Help, help them determine. And then a lot of times we, you know, we get companies coming to us, um, really just wanting to know, like, you know, if, like, which of their sponsor products should they use and when should they go off sponsor? You know, you'll see that a lot at like, the tour where, excuse me. Um, you know, like they, they ride the sponsor correct product, you know, 98% of the time, and then they're gonna sneak it in here or there when it's really critical. So, you know, what, what are those really critical points? And then, you know, if, if they're gonna risk getting in trouble or outright get in trouble, like it needs to be worth it, right? And so they might come to us with like, okay, you know, we need. I need a time trial tire for this rider for this day. You know, what should we do? And, and we'll help him with that. But yeah, you know, if you, if you were a, a brand, uh, or a world tour team there, or approach our athlete that wanted to go to the win tunnel, you know, you might pay us to come along. Um, a lot of what I do too is kind of fun is just act as like a fly on the wall in these team to sponsor interactions. You know, I think I was probably at half a dozen wind tunnel tests last year where I really had pretty much nothing to contribute other than being the neutral third party in the room, um mm-hmm. you know, so that everybody was comfortable that everybody was. Comfortable . [00:10:26] Randall: Well, I would imagine there's a mix of the, uh, the political, if you're talking about, you know, what should be using our own sponsors gear versus slipping something else in all the way to, um, balancing the competing goals of say, like comfort and pure power output on the bike versus aerodynamics. Um, if you're talking about a time trial position. Yeah. [00:10:47] Josh: Oh yeah, for sure. And, and I think even down to, you know, and I think as much as we love to talk science and testing and, and try to be as scientific as possible, I mean, this stuff is really, it's emotionally hard. It's politically hard. It's, you know, companies will bring new equipment in, they're with their engineers. I mean, those guys and girls want that stuff to work so bad. And you know, sometimes you just see things coming out where, Oh yeah, that's clearly faster. And you're like, Well, actually, the way I would interpret that is it's probably about. The same, um, or mm-hmm. , you know, let's, let's rerun that test or, um, you know, it's always, I don't know, it, it, they, they like, people like to get themselves in these loops where, you know, Oh, we did this and it's 10 seconds faster and it's that, And I feel like back in the, you know, when I was with zip, we did this a lot during the Lance Armstrong area and he was writing our disc and, and we were coming in as consultants for the first probably five tours or whatever. And um, you know, every wind tunnel test you'd get to the end and they would have this chart that's like, we just made him 90 seconds faster. And it's like, look guys, that. There is no 90 seconds faster. I mean, you know? Mm-hmm. like, like that is not gonna happen. You know, you, you just did a whole bunch of stuff that's not sustainable that he can't hold his head like that. Mm-hmm. that helmet tails gonna come off the back, you know, I mean, cuz he, people do things like, Oh, oh, the helmet tail moved, rerun. You're like, Yep guys, when you ride in the real world, like the tail's gonna move. Like you don't, you know, people like to, they select data, um, without even realize they're selecting data. And so, you know, it is, it's just good always to have a third party in the room. Um, you know, it's kinda like funny story, you know, back to, you know, my zip days, how Firecrest came about, you know, Firecrest was literally the name of the prototype that, that kind of blew all of our minds. And the reason the prototypes had weird bird names was that we had to double blind them across engineers because you just didn't want anybody. Kind of, you know, having an effect on their product, right? I mean, we all, you know, we all fall in love with our children, right? . And, and in this world, like you, you can't love your children. Um, and you have to be willing to kill them when they're not good. And, um, you know, we would do this double blind thing where we would like assign them all a number and then we would assign bird name, these bird names a number, and then we would randomize it and then they would get all put up. And then nobody really knew whose idea was what, when you were in the tunnel. Um, that's necessary, right? Cause you're, you know, you can be your own worst enemy at that stuff. I think we've, you know, we've all been guilty of that a time or two in our lives. But, uh, you see it all the time, particularly in these performance, um, improvement coaching type things where, you know, people just wanna will something into existence even when it's not. Yeah. [00:13:38] Randall: Well, and I can see, um, you know, the marketing oftentimes has it much more, uh, presented, much more like a, you know, this is just, it's physics. It's more, it's more exact, it's more, um, it's more controlled. And, um, there are competing variables, particularly when you have, you know, a monkey in the middle. You have to, this, this, you know, this animal needs to be comfortable. This animal needs to be fueled, This animal needs to be able to control this machine through a varied environment. And that varied environment may be varying in real time if weather changes or things like this. Um, and so there's just all these competing interests. And so when you see, you know, I often laugh at like, You add up all the different arrow benefits that, you know, different companies claim for components and you should be doing. Right. Right. You know, you might be looking at, um, uh, relativistic effects potentially at some of the speeds you'd be able to achieve. Uh, Jen, just like how, how many watts can be saved. Totally. Being a little bit facetious there. [00:14:37] Josh: Yeah. No, no, it's totally true. I mean, and I still have this photo somewhere, I think I even showed it a couple years ago on social media. But as this, this really great photo that I love that ended up, um, on the wall at the Texas A and Wind tunnel, but it's me with next to Lance Armstrong, um, in the, what became the Nike Swift spin suit, um, that had been flown down there from, you know, Seattle. And it's, uh, oh God, the guy in from his book college or whatever he calls him, and then a guy from Nike, so it's the four of us. And I'm kind of standing there like doing, you know, like pointing at something on his back and it, like, a college student took it for the school newspaper and then they had him autograph it and it ended up on the wall. And so like, Oh, that's me. You know, it's kind of funny. But, but the real story there was that suit, you know, they were paying like 3000 bucks a meter for this suit. They'd been putting it on a mannequin in the tunnel. I mean, it was gonna save three minutes per 40 k. And you're just sitting like going, guys, like, I, I mean, just quick doing the math, like three minutes for Lance Armstrong, you know, like the guys already, That's not possible. And, and of course we get it. We put it on him. Um, the whole thing, you know, it, it's, it's cool, it's fancy, it was very red and it does nothing. I mean, it literally, we were, and the Nike people are there and they're like, Oh, that's not possible. It, it can't do nothing like whole. Let's run it again. Okay. Now get 'em out of it. Put 'em in the normal suit. Run that one. You're like, it, it just doesn't do anything. And, and they just kept going. Well run it again. Well do this. Let's, let's close pin it up. Let's tighten it. Let's, do, you know, I mean, I bet we, we lost two hours trying to make that stupid thing look like it would do anything. You know, And again, it's, it's just people being people and we've all done it. But [00:16:21] Randall: I hear like something of stages, of, stages of grief. Like, you have your baby and like first it's denial, and then you, then you have bargaining. Yeah. Yes. Put so much into this. Yeah, that's exactly, [00:16:32] Josh: that is exactly what it is. And, and you know, the, the crazy reality with that one was, you know, three months later at the tour, they launched it anyway, and they said it saved three minutes and he , you know mm-hmm. . And we, we. It, you know, I just had to laugh. I mean, I remember, you know him, you know, winning whatever one of the time, trials by like a minute and like going, No. So Nike's essentially saying he would've lost that time trial by two minutes had it not been, had he not been wearing that suit. Come on guys. Um, yeah. [00:17:00] Randall: Well, and I think that, that maybe that's, um, you know, headline number one from this interview is don't believe everything you read, especially if it's coming from a party, has a financial interest in it. [00:17:10] Josh: That is true. That is true. Yeah. I, I, I tell don't, don't even believe yourself. Right? I mean, truly like you, you are a bad, um, a bad predictor of things and, and you're a bad feeler of things and nobody wants to admit that. Um, but it's just true. You know, that's, I've been preaching that gospel for, for years. But, you know, I mean, 90, I, I would say 90% of the things you. That you feel when you're on your bike. Total, total crap. Um, and, and we know that cuz we, we've done blind testing with riders. I mean, like unbelievable world class rider. And if you blind them to what they're actually riding, they can't tell you almost any Yeah. Um, you know, all that perception, but still, but the stories away, the [00:17:56] Randall: stories we tell ourselves are powerful. There is a strong placebo effect. Oh, for sure. Uh, for sure. But it has to be acknowledged that that is the placebo. And if you actually had those beliefs about things that had genuine benefits, you would get both, You would get the actual [00:18:11] Josh: benefits. Yes. The, the most powerful thing in the world is a placebo that actually works. Right. , where you get, it's like a, it's a double whammy benefit. Um, and so yeah. That, that's where, you know, I mean, in a nutshell that's a lot of what, you know, I've made my career doing right, is trying to help, help sway people towards the, the, the placebos that, that actually do have a, a, a benefit for them. [00:18:34] Randall: So this has the conversation going in a slightly different direction than I was anticipating, which I'm really enjoying. So I've been, I've been diving into this lecture series from this guy Robert Sapolsky at Stanford. It's on, um, the, uh, uh, behavioral biology, and it's looking at all the different ways in which studies go wrong. And so there's like, you know, beliefs about something, uh, for a long period of time, you know, eminence, people in the field, uh, promulgate these, you know, these ideas. And then it's shown that, you know, the study was, was not, uh, taken, uh, done properly or what have you. And so I'm curious, let's dive more into things that go wrong in the study of aerodynamics and, um, maybe kind of the edge of, say, human performance where interfaces with aerodynamics [00:19:17] Josh: Hmm, ooh. Interest. So, I mean, a, a good. I would say career defining for me, example of that was, um, you know, we, from like 2009 to 2012, we were really all in on developing, uh, CFD for the, for bicycle wheels. And it, it just wasn't working right. Everybody was talking about it and showing papers, and, but I mean, it just, the reality was like the CFD just never looked like the wind tunnel. The curve shapes were different. The data was, we're, we're talking It [00:19:47] Randall: wasn't mid, mid [00:19:48] Josh: nineties, right? Oh, no, Mid, mid late two thousands. Yeah. Like mid, late, late [00:19:53] Randall: thousands. Okay. Yeah. And you're not using, you're having to develop something ground up or you're having to, uh, adapt something from Desso or, or one of these bigger [00:20:02] Josh: vendors. Yeah, So I think the question at the time was, you know, how do you, how do you really properly model the spinning wheel in, in flow that's also translating, right? And you look at. You know, all the CFD stuff with aircraft, um, you know, there's no rotational flow, you know, and then you look at, there's special models that people have built to look at, like, um, turbine jet, turbine engine combustion or whatever. But those are incredibly unique. And they're also, you know, there's RO flow rotating, but in a different access and Yeah. [00:20:36] Randall: The F1 guys perpendicular access. [00:20:38] Josh: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And so, and then you got the F1 guys who weren't really modeling, um, they were modeling the rotation of the wheels, but they were doing it by modeling a rotational component at the surface of the tire. So you were, you weren't essentially like spinning the wheel, you were just saying, Oh, there's a induced rotation a about this surface. Um, which has been in the, the solvers forever. So [00:21:02] Randall: in interesting, this is taught because the, those wheels are traveling so quickly, especially the top of the wheel. If you're doing 200 miles an hour, the top of the tire is traveling at 400. And so you're having sign significant turbulence at that interface, right? Well, [00:21:15] Josh: and you, you have like Magnus effect, right? You're actually getting pressure differential top to bottom, um, you know, from , the direction of the wheel spinning. And so, you know, we, we could do stuff like that pretty accurately, right? You know, you could look at the, you know, a rotating baseball and, and predict the direction that's gonna curve. I mean, things like that were possible. But, you know, every single, and, you know, my God, I used to get, I still do occasionally, but I, I used to probably get 20 PhD papers a year from kids all over the world. Um, you know, Oh, what do you think of my paper on, you know, CFD of bicycle wheel? And we're like, Oh, it's beautiful pictures, but your data's crap. Um, . And it just wasn't figured out. And, and in 2009, I, I met a guy, Matt, uh, Godo, who's a triathlete, but he also worked for a company called FieldView. And they had built all of the CFD automation for, uh, Red Bull F one, um, and probably half the F1 grid, but his, his big account was Red Bull. Um, and he, I met him at Interbike and he had a paper that he was working on. He said, I think, I think I might have figured this out, but I really need to be able to like, Like, build a wind tunnel in the computer and then look at it so we can directly compare them back and forth. And, and so we, we did that. We published a paper at the a I a, which was at MIT that year, and it went over really well and people liked it. And we published another paper the next year, um, at, at the a i A conference. And that went well. And then we got this big grant, like an $80,000 grant from Intel, um, to really tackle this problem. Cause the, the head technologist at Intel at the time was a guy, uh, Bill Fry Rise, and one, one of the coolest guys I ever met. Um, you know, the kind of guy who, whose resume just has like a five year period that says like Los Alamos , like, [00:23:01] Randall: okay, you're cool. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Not, not allowed to talk about it. What do you do? Yes. Uh, yes, exactly. . But, [00:23:08] Josh: uh, but he was a cyclist and he was some senior, somebody at Intel. And, and, um, And they, they gave us this money and we, we, we really went hard at this and we ended up developing a, essentially all of the little nuance details. Uh, we did it in star ccm. We post processed it in field view. I think we processed it on like a thousand cores, which for 2010 was, you know, a lot. Right. [00:23:33] Randall: Um, and these are, these are, um, CPUs and not GPUs for that era. Right. A lot of the stuff of that era GPUs now, right? [00:23:40] Josh: Yeah. Yeah. I remember we, yeah, I mean, that was the beginning of, uh, that was the beginning of the cloud. It was pretty cool, like 2008, 2009, people were still traveling. I remember at one point in that process there was discussion that like, we might have to travel, um, to, Oh God, what is it? The, the university over there in Illinois had a huge, had like a 1200 core machine and they're like, Okay, we, we might have to go there and, and buy, you know, two days of time. And then as that was happening, cloud. Kind of the beginnings of cloud was there. And I remember we, we met a guy who had a cloud thing, and they had just been bought by Dell. And, uh, we were at a conference and he's like, Oh, no, you know, with our, our thing, What was that called? But, uh, with our thing, you, you can just do it like up in the ether. We're like, Whoa. You had never heard of that before. Yeah. Um, it was just exciting times and, and, uh, but, but we, you know, had this great team. We pulled it together. I mean, that's really where Firecrest came from, right? It was, it was largely designed using, um, Hundreds of iterations of capes predicted to be fast, uh, using this cfd. And, and ultimately we won. We, we became like, I think the first non university and non-governmental group to ever win a, uh, uh, innovation excellence award from the Supercomputing Society. So it was pretty cool. Salt Lake City's like this huge super computing conference and you know, it's like darpa, this and university of that. And it was like these four guys from this bike brand and, you know, was, uh, it was a pretty cool experience. But, but in that, so that's like a huge tangent. No, [00:25:17] Randall: no, this is, this is great. And, and just to take a, uh, stop for a second, CFD computational Fluid Dynamics software that is used to model complex multi-variate systems where there's second order effects and, you know, fluids and, and things like this. So anyone who's not, uh, who's not with us on that, like complicated software for complicated system models, in your [00:25:39] Josh: ideal world, it's like a wind tunnel on your laptop, right? In the, in the George Jetson's version of things. It, it's the wind tunnel on the laptop. And in the reality of things, it's kind of more like, eh, it's about as good as guessing most of the time. But, but, but sometimes it's really good at finding certain really specific things. So I won't, uh, I won't knock it too hard, but why the thing I wanna [00:25:59] Randall: dive in a little bit [00:26:00] Josh: here. Oh, go ahead. Yeah, yeah. Well, let me, so let me finish the, the thing that we discovered in this process that was super cool. Um, was that once we had all of these transient, we were solving for all these transients, um, and we really started looking at not just like the, you know, the, the side force or the yaw force or you think of um, you know, the whole thing with like wheels and handling, right? This all came out of this project cuz you could, you could predict the steering torque on the wheel, which, you know, none of the balances being used to test wheels at the time even had torque sensing, right? You had drag side force and lift, but none of them had the rotational components in there. And so that for us at first was like, oh shit, we've never thought about torque cuz we weren't measuring it. Right? It's sort of one of those, yeah, like you've biased your study all along, but then the big one was looking at the predicted, um, data and there were all of these, uh, harmonic effects. and we kind of looked at each other and we're like, Oh my God, every wind tunnel you've ever been in, Right? The first thing everybody discusses is, you know, what's the, what's the, the time across which you're taking the data and at what frequency? And then you're averaging that data, right? Cuz we're all after a data point. And you could look at the tunnel data and the CFD data, and when you pulled them out of their point form into their wave form, essentially you could see the harmonics kind of lined up, the frequencies match when, oh shit, we've been averaging out a really important piece of data for 30 years. You know, this harmonic thing is big. Like what's your, [00:27:39] Randall: your standard? So it's operating on a, it's operating on a frequency that is smaller than the sample rate. Or how [00:27:46] Josh: was it essentially? Essentially we were just idiots and we were just, we were just time averaging the all of that out. Right. I mean, it's, you know, if you need to Okay. Any wind tunnel you, you went to in the world and be like, Oh, well, we'll take, we here, we take data for 30 seconds at, you know, whatever, a hundred hertz, 60 hertz, 120, or whatever it is, and then we'll, we'll take an average. Oh, okay. That, that's fine. Got it. You're averaging out in there is real, um, uh, like amplitude changes, uh, largely due to vortex shedding is, as it turns out with bicycle wheels. But a lot of that high frequency handling stuff, particularly as wheels get deep, um, , sorry, I'm in, uh, I'm in our studio, which is off of our kitchen and somebody's lunchbox just, just leapt off of the top of the [00:28:34] Randall: refrigerator. Um, yeah, sometimes I'll have a niece or nephew come in screaming, so No worries. Yeah. So, but, [00:28:39] Josh: uh, but no, we, we realized there, there was a, a. About a factor of five difference in amplitude between wheels in terms of that, those oscillating effects. Right. Which typically it's just, it's generally vortex shedding. And the CFD can predict that really well, right? Where your little pressure builds up, sheds off, sets off a counter rotation that sheds off. Um, but as a, as a cyclist, you, you feel that as the wheel, you know, kind of oscillating left to right. Um, and we, and let's, let's for 20 years, you know, [00:29:12] Randall: Yeah. So you're just taking the, the lump, you know, 30 seconds averaged out data and saying, Okay, it gives you this amount of benefit and you're not seeing those. Um, I mean, really what we're talking about is, uh, you know, instability that may. Or, you know, otherwise result in, in control issues on the bike. And I want to take a moment to just like, define some terms, uh, because not, you know, many of our listeners are not overly technical. Um, but uh, I think some of these concepts are easy enough to get your head around, like, so, you know, describe at a very high level you're talking about vs. So, you know, maybe describe lader flow and flow attachments and vortices sheddings. How, how does this, how does this, uh, how can you understand this without a, a technical background? [00:29:59] Josh: Oh, those are awesome questions. Okay. So Lader LaMer flow is kind of what you. What the, the world wants you to think of in the wind tunnel. You see the wind tunnel picture and they've got like the, the 10 lines of smoke and they're all kind of flowing together cleanly and beautifully. That's, that's meant to, to evoke lam or flow, right. That if you were to drop a, a smoke or a particle in there, that they would all flow in lamini, you know, like sheets of paper. Um, yeah. Uh, so, so [00:30:29] Randall: it's going in a straight line. Smooth, [00:30:31] Josh: controlled, Predictable, yeah. Flow. And it, it follows the contours of the thing that it's flowing against. So, [00:30:38] Randall: so kinda like water flowing down a river sort of thing. It's not perfectly laminate, but it's all going roughly in the same direction. And there's not a lot of water [00:30:46] Josh: in a pipe disturbance, you know, would be in a pipe better example, presumably pretty laminate, right? And then you start to add stuff, you know, water in the river. Now you're, you're, you know, you've got a rock and now all of a sudden there's a disturbance and it starts to swirl. Um, and so you, you get into, you know, more complicated types of flow. I, I think the, the big ones, you know, for us to think about are, you know, most, so most drag that we deal with comes from, um, uh, pressure related things. So you either have like the, the high pressure on the front of the rider, right? The wind that you're pushing into this when you stick your hand out the car window, right? The mm-hmm. the air you feel hitting your hand, you know, that's, uh, that's a pressure drag, uh, in the positive direction. And then you have the flow, the vacuum in the back. Yeah. The flow will detach off of the object and that'll create a vacuum behind. And so that's a suction drag, um mm-hmm. . And then when you have something like vortex shedding, it's when, uh, the, the. Description I ever have for vortex sheddings. If you've ever driven an old car with, uh, like the metal antenna on the hood, you know, at some speed on the highway, that antenna starts vibrating, oscillating sideways, which is like the last thing on earth you think it would do, right? Like your brain's like, well, it should just keep bending backwards with speed. Mm-hmm. , why is it going sideways? Well, that's that you get this thing where you have a little, uh, a little curl of flow will kind of detach more on one side than the other, and that creates a side force. Mm-hmm. . But in doing so, the suction that that has now left behind will pull a similar vortex from the opposite side. Mm-hmm. . And that creates an opposite side force. And so you get these, see an oscillation, you get these oscillations and uh, you know, that's, it's huge in architecture and mm-hmm. , it, it's why you see so many of those super tall buildings or kind of have pyramid shapes or might have some sort of like, feature that spirals down them to, to kind of break that up. I, I live [00:32:46] Randall: in Boston. We actually have, um, a skyscraper here that was flexing so much, the windows were popping out. This is, you know, decades ago. And, you know, it's still, you know, they have this like funnel of air that's going through there and just the nature of the shape of it and how air gets funneled in, it was causing enough torsion to, um, you know, cause window de bonding. Um, so yeah. That's crazy. Uh, so then, you know, think applying this to the bike and particularly a wheel, um, you know, this is the biggest effect is, is presumably your front wheel where you're having this oscillation, this shift in pressure from one side to the other at a very high, high level, um, that's causing instability. It's making it so that you may lose control of the bike. It's not predictable. [00:33:34] Josh: Yeah. Correct. Correct. And, and the, the other thing we learned through CFD that it was doing, which is not obvious until you think about it, but so you think of the. So you might have, say it that the trailing edge of the front half of the rim, you're, you, you set up a little vortex shedding situation. Mm-hmm. . Um, and so you've got a little side force, but it's kind of at the, the trailing edge of the rim there. Right? So it's got a little bit of leverage on your steering, but the other thing that's happening is that alternating attachment and detachment of flow, um, changing the side force, but you're a side force at an angle. So there's a lift component, right? Which is how the drag is being reduced. And as that happens, what, what's also now changing is what we call like the center of pressure. And the center of pressure. You think of like the wheel from the side, like, like the sum, the aggregate of all the, the arrow forces on that has a center point about which it's balanced. It's kinda like a center of mass. Um, you know, so it's, it'd be center of pressure. Well, that center of pressure when you have. Shedding happening somewhere that's now moving forwards and backwards and very [00:34:40] Randall: rapidly [00:34:41] Josh: as well. Potentially, Yeah. Rather rapidly. I mean, and, and when you really look, look in on it, it, the frequency actually can be quite close to, um, the, uh, speed wobble frequency, right? Which is somewhere in that like three to four hertz range. Uh, which also happens to be really close to the frequency of human, uh, shivering, which is kind of cool's why you're more likely to, to speed wobble when you're really cold. Um, [00:35:05] Randall: and not everyone just push will have experienced speed wobble. But if, you know, if this is basically your, you, you hit a certain resonant frequency of, of the frame based on the frames geometry, uh, the head tube angle, the what are the factors that go into that, [00:35:20] Josh: Uh, it's top tube stiffness is big and so, yeah. Yeah. And it's actually this speed wobble's. Interesting. It's. It starts as a residency issue, but it's really a, it's a hop bifurcation and, um, a hop B. Okay. And so, yeah. And so what you have in a hop, uh, bifurcation is you essentially have two st two stability, um, would be the best way to think of it. And you are jumping from the one to the other. And so like, right up until that, so the [00:35:48] Randall: system wants to be in one state or the other, but not in the middle [00:35:51] Josh: and there's no middle. Right. And, and what's, what's so cool, like, like early in, um, uh, early in covid, you know, we were all talking about this, you know, what is it the are not value, the, you know, like if it's above or below one. And when you, you line that out that are not, when are not crosses one, it's a hop bifurcation that looks just like the speed wobble, bifurcation, I mean the graph. It's amazing how like, cool those things, you know, mathematically you're like, Oh yeah, that's exactly the same as this. It's just here, it's in a, you know, you get the exact same graph if you're looking at, um, Uh, wing flutter in an aircraft, uh, in the wing tunnel. Mm-hmm. , similar bifurcation problem, but yeah. So you, you, you have essentially two states and the system can get tripped from one end into the other. And in the one the bike is stable and wants to go straight, and in the other it wants to oscillate because each oscillation mm-hmm. is setting up the, the counter oscillation. Um, and so like, it, it's, you know, in resonance it's more of like a runaway you, you think of like the, how that's tradition. Yeah. It amplifi forcing. Yeah. It, it just keeps growing and growing and growing. Um, and in this one it just, it, it, it's not growing and growing, but it just trips you into this spot where like it's really bad. Um mm-hmm. and it will just shake the crap outta you at the front end. And um, and in fact motorcycles quite [00:37:07] Randall: scary. The high performance motorcycles will sometimes have a steering damper for this very reason. Um, because you'll, yeah, you'll get these speed wobbles. And so the damper is essentially making it so there's some exponentially increasing resistance. Um, I, I know you know this, I'm explaining it for our, our audience just in, you know, cause again, I wanna keep bringing it back down to earth, but, you know, having just like your, your suspension, you don't just have a a just a spring, you have some sort of damping circuit so it doesn't feel like a pogo stick. Um, which is a related effect. Um, but, uh, very cool. And are not for our listeners as well. [00:37:47] Josh: Funny. I hadn't thought about that. I haven't thought about that in like two years as we were talking like, Oh, I remember now. That was, uh, yeah. Yeah, that was, uh, But what or not was the, um, Oh shit. It was the. The contagion ratio or whatever, like how, how many people, each person would transmit to mm-hmm. And so if it's, which makes sense, right? If every person's gonna transmit it to 1.1, it grows. If you're gonna transmit it to 0.8, it, it dies. Um, [00:38:12] Randall: so the analogy here is that, that the increasing amplitude of that, you know, those pressure differentials, sending it to the, the system to one state or the other and causing that increasing oscillation, Is that a exactly correct characterization? [00:38:26] Josh: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Like you, you can take it right up to a line, um, and you don't have a problem. And then as soon as you cross the line, you're in a different state. Mm-hmm. . And, and that's where I think, you know, speed wobble for those of you who've experienced it or chase tried chasing it on a bicycle, um, you can solve it sometimes with like, the stupidest stuff. Um, you know, one of the, the common ones is to just put a little bit of like, um, like, like a heavier bar tape or a little bit of lead weight in like your, um, Uh, your plugs. Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . You can oftentimes change it with a tire pressure or a different tire cuz you can add just enough damping at the contact patch. Um, that it just pushes it up high. You know, if, if, cause typically what people will find is like, Oh, it's, I'm totally fine. Then I hit, you know, 38.5 miles an hour and all hell breaks loose. Well. Mm-hmm. , you change the mass at the top of the system a little bit and maybe you've now pushed that point out to 45 miles an. but if you never go 45 miles an hour, you've affected, that's not a problem. Right? Yeah, yeah. Like, oh yeah, I [00:39:28] Randall: fixed it. I think another example that people may have experienced too is like, uh, sometimes you'll have an issue with your car that, you know, won't notice except that certain speeds and it's because of those speeds. There is some, you know, oscillation that's happening. If it's a tire and balance or something in your drive train or the like. Um, you know, I've, I once had a vehicle that was really good up to 60 and then like 60, 61, it was problematic and then it would smooth out a bit after that and it was just like this wobbling effect that would balance out beyond that, that speed. Um, alright, so then bringing things back down to earth. Um, this is delightful by the way. I, I could do this all day, . Um, and I, I hadn't quite appreciated. Um, the, the basic r and d and like basic science and tool building that you were involved in. Uh, so. That's, its its own topic. That's probably not one for, for a podcast of this particular [00:40:22] Josh: def. Yeah. I, I will say on that, I think that's the part that I think never, you know, the marketing never really tells that side of the story cuz it's just too complicated. Yeah. But if you're, if you're out there and you're, you're into this stuff, like that's the fun stuff. Like, I love launching product and, and the product itself. But like, that crazy journey to get there is usually like, that's where all the fun is happening. And, and, and typically cuz we're, you know, you're doing it wrong, like 90% of the time you're like, you know, it's just can be months or years of like, we suck, you know, this doesn't work, we're getting our sasses kicked. And then you, you know, if you persevere long enough, you will come out the other end and it's like, wow, we, we needed all that stuff. Like, we needed to get our heads handed to us over and over again, or we never would've figured this stuff out. Um, Yeah. I really, really enjoy that part of, um, of, of technology development or whatever you wanna call it. [00:41:16] Randall: Yeah. Basic, like real basic r and d right down to building the tools that you need to do the r and d you want to do, um, Right. . Yeah. Very cool. And obviously like the compute power and the, the algorithms available and, you know, the switch to GPUs and all these other things that have, um, changed since you were developing that make it such that today's models are both vastly more powerful and still yet trivial in complexity relative to the system itself. [00:41:44] Josh: Yeah, totally. [00:41:46] Randall: Yeah. Um, well let's dive into some more practical topics. So let's talk about like, alright, so a lot of our listeners we're the Gravel Ride podcast, right? So thinking about that particular experience, um, what should, what are, what is worth, um, a gravel rider thinking about. Uh, with relation to arrow. Uh, so things that can be done that will improve aerodynamics, but then not take away from the ride experience that a lot of riders are after, particularly when they're going to grab, you know, they wanna be comfortable, they wanna have a good time, they wanna have good control over a variety of different terrain and so on. So what are the arrow? Um, and, and they don't wanna look silly, so they might not be, want wanting to wear a skin suit or something like that. Not that it looks silly, but, but you know, a more, a more serious enthusiast type of rider. Uh, what are the Yeah, what are the things to think about? [00:42:36] Josh: Oh, gosh. That's, that's a good question. Um, I mean, I think it really depends on, on what. Th the particular rider, you know, is after, I mean, are you, are you racing? Do you wanna go fast? Do you wanna not get dropped? Mm-hmm. , um, you know, do you need to carry stuff? I mean, I would say one of, one of the big ones that I, I just see and, and you know, we, we make a ton of stuff in our company and one of, one of them being bags. And, you know, we're constantly accused of not making bags that are big enough. And so I've been on this mission for a couple years of like, you know, what is in there, , Like Really? Mm-hmm. what's in there. Yeah. And it is amazing to me just how much crap people are carrying. You know, you, you open some of these monster seat bags, it's like, man, just because you bought it doesn't mean you need to fill it or use it. Um, you know, it, and, and absolutely there's, there's like time and place for it. But, um, you know, I. Some of the stuff like that, like, Oh, okay. You've, you know, do you, you show up on the local gravel right here and you know, people look like they're, they're almost like bike packing, like mm-hmm. , you just don't need, you know, it, it's a 40 mile loop, you know, that starts and ends at a bike shop. Like, you, you don't need to bring a bike [00:43:49] Randall: shop with you. Well, you, you need your coffee grinder, you need your, your mini stove and you need your neuro press. Yeah, Yeah. Um, different experience. You know, let's assume that we're going after like a performance rider who's, um, like doing, doing, you know, a hundred, uh, a hundred mile events than they're, they're training for it and they wanna squeeze out more performance, um, out of their existing setup. Or they're considering, you know, what bike to get, what wheels to get, what, um, how to set it up, even considering bike fit. Yeah. Or, you know, clip on arrow bars and the, like, what are the different things that people can do and what are the compromises and so on. [00:44:24] Josh: Yeah. I mean, the, I, I think certainly for gravel. The one clear cut, no compromise. Better all around product that I can just always recommend is like a, an arrow top drop bar. I mean, it is amazing how much faster those things are than round section bars. I mean, any really, you know, like pro vibe or the zip fuca or whatever, you know, there's, I think every company makes one. It's that big, you know. Oh, it's hu I mean it like wind tunnel speeds. It's a flattop bar can be like 28 to 30 watts. I mean, it's nuts. Yeah. Cause you're, you're replacing round covered in tape with something that's like pretty thin and shaped Well, sure. Or it can be massive, but, but the, [00:45:05] Randall: I didn't, cuz the cross sectional areas is not that big compared to, you know, the rider and the, the rest of the bike and so on. Some [00:45:12] Josh: No, it's, it's, well and in gravel it has the double effect of being, you know, shaped or ized in the direction that is also gonna add compliance, right? Yeah, yeah. And, and comfort. And so you, you know, it's one of the few products I can really look at and go, okay, that thing is more arrow and more comfortable and has more service area for your right. I mean, better all around. Um, that's a pretty easy one to, to go with. And, and similarly, you know, if you've, you've got the money. I mean some of these, the, the integrated cockpit solutions that are out there are even faster, right? Cause it's just even less. Stuff in the wind. Um, so let's talk you, let's [00:45:48] Randall: talk about that. That's big, a big serviceability compromise and, and you know, fit can be a concern with that too cause it's harder to swap components and so on. How much of that is coming from, um, simply not having the cables running into the down tube? Like, can you get the vast majority of those benefits with cables coming out from, say, underneath the bar? If they're tucked in on the bar or even coming out from the bar and dropping underneath the stem into the, the headset from there? [00:46:14] Josh: Yeah. Yeah. My, my rule of thumb for cables that I always use cuz it's so memorable is, um, You know, Greg Lamond versus Fon in the 89 tour time. Mm-hmm. , So 2020 kilometer time trial. Um, the eight second gap, there was more or less equivalent to Fons ponytail, Right. As we, we loved to joke about a cyclist, but was also the equivalent of one number two pencil length worth of cable housing. So, and [00:46:46] Randall: this is, and this is true even if the cable housing is say, in front of the head tube, so it's going to be disturbed by the head tube anyways, cuz you're getting the drag off of it. Be, you see what I mean? Like, so I, I'm trying to hone my understanding of the [00:46:59] Josh: Yeah. I mean, you think, Yeah. So I, I would think, uh, good way to put that would be that, Yeah. Putting, putting a slow. Crappy thing in front of a smooth thing, you're, you're still getting the drag of the slow, crappy thing. Yep. Um, and you may actually be worsening the flow, um, on the arrow thing. So Yeah. Got it. Absolutely. Still, you still have that effect. Um, you know it, and it's hard to say, you know, in some cases, you know, it's, it's close enough or it's just in like the goldilock zone where it's a good distance away where you're like, Ooh, we can kind of make them disappear. And they become, you know, uh, a almost like the cable isn't there, but that's not typically what we see. And typically, you know, you, you throw a bike in the wind tunnel with that and then you rip the cables out and you run it again and you're, every time it's like, Oh shit. Big difference. Difference. You've, in [00:47:50] Randall: terms of watts, like a few watts here, like, so, so the handlebar is the big one, you said as much as 30 watts at wind tunnel speeds, which granted gravel riders generally are, are, we're [00:48:00] Josh: not going that miles an hour. But you, Yeah, you we're out for a long time. Yeah, but you are out there for a long time, so you don't have the speed. But yeah, you, you definitely have the, the, the potential time saving. So, yeah, I, you know, hidden cables. I agree with you. Total pain in the ass. And, you know, my God, I've spent a career working on world tour bikes and, and you know, Ironman, world champion bikes and things like that. And I, I feel everybody's pain, you know, people are always like, Why is the industry doing this to us? Like, like, Well, cuz you want it and cuz it works. I mean there's no, like, it, it's a pain in the ass, but it works. Mm-hmm. . So anywhere you can get rid of cable. get rid of cables, um, you know, skin suit. I have to say not everybody loves it, but man, it can be a huge, huge difference. Uh, I mean, you look at, you know, we were just out at lead, uh, Leadville and Steamboat, and you know, all the top. Guys at Leadville and skin suits now, cuz it, it makes that big of a difference. Um, arrow bars can be huge and, you know, I think that's, that's one I I think everybody's got their own sort of flavor that they like. But, you know, to me, like for gravel, a stubby, a stubby bar that has functional pads mm-hmm. , um, really can be worth it just because it's a different hand position and it, it's enough that it, it's effectively changing your, kind of, your whole torso position and it, it, it's just giving you a, a break all around. Right. It's different pressure points in your shammy for the time that you're using it. It's different, you know, muscles in your back. Um, I think there's a good, this is the, the extent of my physi physiological knowledge, but I, I think it's good to, to mix things up. Um, like that. I, I know a lot of people have kind of gone to these super. Narrow, stubby, I don't even know what you call 'em. Like semia bars that Yeah, [00:49:46] Randall: mini arrow bars. [00:49:48] Josh: Nowhere to put your, nowhere to rest your weight. And, and it just feels like everybody I know using those is constantly complaining about their wrists, you know? Um, and so I, I, again, not a physical, but the change [00:50:00] Randall: in the change in frontal area, um, is that just an unmitigated benefit or are there circumstances where you can reduce frontal area and, you know, have a negative result within the realm of, you know, changing a Roger's position? [00:50:16] Josh: Yeah, you know, a lot of it depends on your, your baseline and, and how good you are. Positionally, I think, you know, when, you know, we do a lot of position training with top athletes and you know, the. The best place you can be that's not an arrow bar is on the hoods with level forearms. Mm-hmm. , right? Like that's the, and and ideally with relatively narrow bars, [00:50:37] Randall: so, and perpendicular upper arms as well, presumably, [00:50:40] Josh: or give or take. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean it is, it's, you're gonna roughly get there depending on what the rest of the position looks like and, you know, obviously different body shapes and whatnot. But yeah, I mean, you think horizontal forearms are keeping that pretty much out of the wind. Mm-hmm. , Um, and, and they are also keeping it, it's just hard to hold that position, um, with, in a way that you're also still opening your chest. Because, you know, you were really trying to keep air from getting blocked up under the chest. And when you get a rider doing that, they just always kind of form, which I say always, I'm sure there's some counterexamples out there, but they, they almost always, um, kind of adjust their back and their shoulders in a way that they kind of turtle their head a little bit. You know, the head comes down and you're just kind of now pushing more air up over the body and less down into it. Um, but from there, arrow bars are almost always an improvement, right? Cuz you're narrowing the arms, um, you know, you're tightening things up even further and now you're pushing more flow around the sides, um, and less into the chest and less into the hips. And there's some physiological things. You know, people, you know, wide hips, big hands, certain shoulders, certain back shapes, right? That's why we go to the tunnel, you know, it's, it. 90% of the time, you could look at somebody and go, Oh, do this, this, and that, but man, 10% of the time it looks good and you run it and you're like, That's not good, We can just find a different solution. Um, [00:52:10] Randall: yeah. So air bars are huge. Another thing that we're starting to see is, uh, so BMC has their new cas uh, uh, line. They went with a super narrow, uh, handlebar, so narrow at the hoods, and then, you know, flare at the bottom. Uh, that seems like another thing that again, is, Well, I mean, on the one hand, yeah, you're getting narrower, but on the other hand, you're also closing up the chest and maybe, you know, you're not getting as much oxygen, like air turnover or something. Or like, are there issues where I, so [00:52:38] Josh: I, I have been beating the narrow handlebar drum for 25 years. Um, you know, I am yet to actually see or be told by a real physiologist that that whole. Oxygen lung thing that we were all told as juniors is true, is an issue. Um, yeah, I I've just, yeah, we've just never, I mean that, that I know of and I'm sure somebody out there will say, Oh, here's a paper. But, you know, I, I know whenever we've studied it, looked at it, we've looked at it with athletes, I mean, look at what's happening at the world tour. A lot of that is, you know, we've been beating that drum. I'm starting to see that for years, and people are doing it and they're winning. Um, so, you know, and I wonder [00:53:17] Randall: why aren't we seeing it with extreme flare as well, like a compound flare at least, so that you can still keep a, you know, a reasonably vertical lever position because then you could go even narrower and have, um, still have the leverage for the descending and so on. Is that a [00:53:32] Josh: tradition thing? Yeah, I, yeah, I think some of it's that. I think some of it is just, you know, how far do you really wanna push the uci? Um, [00:53:42] Randall: you know, oh, the UCI cares about the flare in your bars. [00:53:46] Josh: Oh, they will. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I think there are actually rules putting some limits on that, but yeah, at some point it's gonna look funny enough that you're gonna draw attention and they're gonna go, Wait a minute. Um, and, and you know, we've, we've [00:53:58] Randall: seen them, I've got a 28 centimeter wide bar with huge flares on there, and I've got specially made levers that come off of it so that I can actually still touch them from the job. [00:54:07] Josh: We have seen it with, I, I can't remember the name of that bar, but I think it's out of Belgium or something. But it's got like, you know, uh, 180 millimeters of reach, um, super narrow with long, and you can kind of lay your forearms. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember seeing that and they quickly were like, Nope, that's out. Um, so I, you know, I think we just, people are, people are cautious. I think the, the setups that are working now, um, are very largely built around that, uh, three T track bar. I can't remember what it's called, but, uh, I know. You know, it's got that kind of cool like wing, like gulling shape to it, but it's super narrow, arrow tops, um, relatively vertical, uh, drops. But, but that's a bar that the ucis allowed for years, right? And so I think that as a, you know, when, when conversations are happening behind closed doors, that's the kind of thing of like, Oh, well this looks enough like that, that if they call us out, we, we go in there and be like, Well, it looks a whole lot like this thing that you've allowed for 20 years. Um, you know, we, we have tons of those conversations. Yeah. So, so I, you know, I, I think, but I, I will say, I, I think too, that's where, um, you know, a lot of people might look at the pro tour and things that they're writing. Oh, well if this worked, they'd use it. You know? I mean, that was what people told us when we were building zip in the early days. Well, if they worked, the Pro Pros would ride it. I'm like, Yeah, but they. They don't know what they're, they don't believe in aerodynamics. You know, they, the pros, they don't riding [00:55:34] Randall: super skinny tires at super high pressures cuz they felt faster for a long time, even though, you know, at least, well, you know this better than than I do. I mean, the data has been saying for quite some time that it's more efficient. Never mind the accumulated fatigue that you get when your body's just being, you know, rattled at, you know, high frequency over the course of many hours. [00:55:56] Josh: Yeah, yeah. No, it's, you know, that I would say they're quite often the last, at least as a group to change. Right. But you, you are seeing it now. I mean the, you know, and, and, and you know, the team like Nios hiring a guy, hiring Dan Bigham to come in and, you know, you, you are seeing some changes, right? Uh, that when teams are bringing full-time people like that in, um, we are gonna start moving the needle there, but it's still a delicate dance with the. With the UCI and, and all the sport governing bodies, right? Nobody, You hear it all the time. Nobody wants a repeat of the whole fna. Uh, I don't follow swimming, but I was the technical, uh, committee director for cycling at the World Federation of Sporting Good Industries. And, uh, at the time when FNA Band banned all of the super tight, uh, swimming suits, and it was just a cluster, right? I mean, they just came out and said, Nope, you've pushed it too far. We're done. And if the whole industry was sideways with like, we've invested millions of dollars in this and the records are breaking, and people wanted and on and on and on, and they just said, Nope, you're done. And, uh, I think it took them five years to under undo all that damage. You know, I mean, you just wanna [00:57:11] Randall: something parallel with running too with, uh, carbon fiber insoles and like what is, what is allowed in terms of the amount of spring that can be delivered and so on. Um, Yeah, I, I see, I see them showing up on my local run. And, um, I might have to get a set just to keep up with the people I used to beat, to keep up with [00:57:29] Josh: It's totally true. [00:57:31] Randall: Uh, that's, I mean, that's, that's, to some degree, that's the nature of the game. And that's why in, in significant part, that's why the gear is as good as it is right now is because, you know, people are looking for, as you would say, those marginal gains. Um, yeah. Um, I wanna dive in. So, uh, I want to put, bring in a few, uh, listener questions. Uh, so we posted in the ridership that you were gonna be coming on, and so we had some folks asking questions there. Probably the biggest one that came up was, um, talking about, you know, we've, uh, Craig and I brought up the rule of 1 0 5 or 5% on the podcast before, but, you know, citing, citing it, it's not a deep understanding, uh, at all. So tell us about how that emerged in. How it applies. Um, you know, particularly in the gravel scene where you're looking at tires that are much bigger. Um, and I mentioned, uh, earlier that, you know, specialized as a video for their reval wheels where they're running a a 42 mill tire on i, I think a 35 or less external rim, and they're claiming some arrow benefit. Does that seem plausible? Is there, uh, given, given, given what you have seen in the wind tunnel and in your modeling? [00:58:41] Josh: Yeah. Um, yeah, it's totally plausible and I guess, we'll, we'll start with rule of one. Oh, so rule 1 0 5 was really, you know, I, I realized pretty early in my career that you had to come up with sort of rules of thumb for things or nobody would listen to you Mm-hmm. and, you know, spent two years traveling Europe trying to sell Arrow. Sell World Tour or pro tour at the time, uh, directors and team owners on aerodynamics and you know, I mean literally got thrown out of every single team, team over there. Uh, I mean, it was just, we just got laughed out of the room. Just imagine [00:59:20] Randall: any of those team directors could have just adopted it at that time and had this huge advantage and didn't, [00:59:26] Josh: uh, that was, I mean, I always said, you know, Uli at srm, thank God, you know, he was developing his thing. And when I walked in to pitch Reese, um, he was alrea

Fighting technical issues, Carter begins the episode with an overview of the United States classification system as it relates (or doesn't) to the Espionage Act. He then dives into an analysis of homesteading as a solution to a decaying society. Is it realistic? It is helpful? What is required for Enlightenment ideas to prevail? He ends the episode by addressing an audience question about winning arguments via logos, pathos, and ethos. The video version of this episode is available here: https://unsafespace.com/ep0837 About Dangerous Thoughts Hosted by Carter, "Dangerous Thoughts" is a series dedicated to practical and applied philosophy, as well as deeper dives into other crucial but complex topics. Its goal is to help rational individuals become more dangerous to the intellectual and psychological enemies of the principles upon which Western Civilization was built and has thrived. Thanks for Watching! The best way to follow Unsafe Space, no matter which platforms ban us, is to visit: https://unsafespace.com While we're still allowed on YouTube, please don't forget to verify that you're subscribed, and to like and share this episode. You can find us there at: https://unsafespace.com/channel For episode clips, visit: https://unsafespace.com/clips Other video platforms on which our content can be found include: LBRY: https://lbry.tv/@unsafe BitChute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/unsafespace/ Also, come join our community of dangerous thinkers at the following social media sites...at least until we get banned: Censorship-averse platforms: Gab: @unsafe Minds: @unsafe Locals: unsafespace.locals.com Parler: @unsafespace Telegram Chat: https://t.me/joinchat/H4OUclXTz4xwF9EapZekPg Censorship-happy platforms: Twitter: @_unsafespace Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/unsafepage Instagram: @_unsafespace MeWe: https://mewe.com/p/unsafespace Support the content that you consume by visiting: https://unsafespace.com/donate Finally, don't forget to announce your status as a wrong-thinker with some Unsafe Space merch, available at: https://unsafespace.com/shop

Fighting technical issues, Carter begins the episode with an overview of the United States classification system as it relates (or doesn't) to the Espionage Act. He then dives into an analysis of homesteading as a solution to a decaying society. Is it realistic? It is helpful? What is required for Enlightenment ideas to prevail? He ends the episode by addressing an audience question about winning arguments via logos, pathos, and ethos. The video version of this episode is available here: https://unsafespace.com/ep0837 About Dangerous Thoughts Hosted by Carter, "Dangerous Thoughts" is a series dedicated to practical and applied philosophy, as well as deeper dives into other crucial but complex topics. Its goal is to help rational individuals become more dangerous to the intellectual and psychological enemies of the principles upon which Western Civilization was built and has thrived. Thanks for Watching! The best way to follow Unsafe Space, no matter which platforms ban us, is to visit: https://unsafespace.com While we're still allowed on YouTube, please don't forget to verify that you're subscribed, and to like and share this episode. You can find us there at: https://unsafespace.com/channel For episode clips, visit: https://unsafespace.com/clips Other video platforms on which our content can be found include: LBRY: https://lbry.tv/@unsafe BitChute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/unsafespace/ Also, come join our community of dangerous thinkers at the following social media sites...at least until we get banned: Censorship-averse platforms: Gab: @unsafe Minds: @unsafe Locals: unsafespace.locals.com Parler: @unsafespace Telegram Chat: https://t.me/joinchat/H4OUclXTz4xwF9EapZekPg Censorship-happy platforms: Twitter: @_unsafespace Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/unsafepage Instagram: @_unsafespace MeWe: https://mewe.com/p/unsafespace Support the content that you consume by visiting: https://unsafespace.com/donate Finally, don't forget to announce your status as a wrong-thinker with some Unsafe Space merch, available at: https://unsafespace.com/shop

his week Jon is not with us - he may or may not have been "Thanos" snapped by our very own Chris. During the intro - Chris did a mini review on Power Wash Sim - which he did play quite a bit of. After that intro however, the show was a little different. More NEWS! topics than we may have ever had, followed by some really great emailers - some first time, long times in there. Good, Good stuff. As far as the real NEWS! It seemed like Xbox and PS blamed slacking sells on people getting back to pre-pandemic normalcy. Shaun believes some of that, BUT - it'd be nice if people could find the new consoles more easily! Just sayin. This past week Jon celebrated a Birthday - so HAPPY BIRTHDAY! George Jetson was apparently born, too. Annnd - we did lose a NBA legend. RIP to the great, Bill Russell. As always, thank you to anyone who wrote in via email or Discord. Thanks as well to anyone who saw or will see the twitch stream (twitch.tv/weeklygameschat). Ro our twitch chat during the recording- thank you! To everyone who listens, thanks for the love and allll the things!!! GAME ON! Topic Time: 26:51 News: 27:47 All Sounds brought to you by zapsplat.com

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We celebrate the birth of George Jetson?!?!? Gandhi calls out Skeery for his lack of effort when floating in Miami.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The first major study of its kind sheds new light on the evolution of all you mutants who can digest dairy. Plus, engineers at MIT have developed a wearable sticker that can see inside your body. And, was George Jetson born over the weekend?Sponsor:Kolide, Got Slack? Got Macs? Get Kolide: Device security that fixes challenging problems by messaging your users on Slack. Try Kolide Today! https://l.kolide.co/3aVdR90 Links:How Humans' Ability to Digest Milk Evolved from Famine and Disease (Scientific American)Early Europeans Could Not Tolerate Milk but Drank It Anyway, Study Finds (NY Times)MIT engineers develop stickers that can see inside the body (MIT News)MIT Engineers Develop Ultrasound Stickers That Can See Inside the Body (SciTech Daily)Fine, let's actually work out whether George Jetson will be born tomorrow (A/V Club)Was George Jetson Born in 2022? (Snopes)Wikipedia suspends edits to its 'recession' page (NPR)Jackson Bird on TwitterSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

* US hospital paid by drug company to prescribe puberty blockers shown to cause brain swelling and blindness. UK clinic gave them to children after just a single consolation* Pedophilia is "OK if its Gay". Salon praises Ru Paul for removing the "gay porn stigma" from drag queens* Fauci's compensation VIOLATES US law which caps compensation for bureaucrats (even the heads of agencies) at the salary level of the Vice President. Who pushed Fauci's pay beyond the legal ceiling and why?* Taxpayers pay $55,000 in charm school tutoring to train CDC's Walensky to be a better liar* Anne Coulter takes on oily sycophant Piers Morgan over Ukraine* On the birthday of "George Jetson", NY Post asked what predictions were right. I ask, what went wrong with society, beginning with the NY Post* Tylenol use in babies and young children is linked to autism after 40 yrs* Gridlock: energy and food are being locked down by governments globally and conservative commentators and politicians offer absurd coincidence theories to explain away the conspiracy* Hole in One! Trump buries Ivanka at his golf course and gets property tax exemption* Harvard study says only 8% of capitol rioters wanted insurrection, that most were driven by loyalty to TrumpFind out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-show Or you can send a donation throughZelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at:  $davidknightshowBTC to:  bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Mail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silver

* US hospital paid by drug company to prescribe puberty blockers shown to cause brain swelling and blindness. UK clinic gave them to children after just a single consultation* Pedophilia is "OK if its Gay". Salon praises Ru Paul for removing the "gay porn stigma" from drag queens* Fauci's compensation VIOLATES US law which caps compensation for bureaucrats (even the heads of agencies) at the salary level of the Vice President. Who pushed Fauci's pay beyond the legal ceiling and why?* Taxpayers pay $55,000 in charm school tutoring to train CDC's Walensky to be a better liar* Anne Coulter takes on oily sycophant Piers Morgan over Ukraine* On the birthday of "George Jetson", NY Post asked what predictions were right. I ask, what went wrong with society, beginning with the NY Post* Tylenol use in babies and young children is linked to autism after 40 yrs* Gridlock: energy and food are being locked down by governments globally and conservative commentators and politicians offer absurd coincidence theories to explain away the conspiracy* Hole in One! Trump buries Ivanka at his golf course and gets property tax exemption* Harvard study says only 8% of capitol rioters wanted insurrection, that most were driven by loyalty to TrumpFind out more about the show and where you can watch it at TheDavidKnightShow.comIf you would like to support the show and our family please consider subscribing monthly here: SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/the-david-knight-show Or you can send a donation throughZelle: @DavidKnightShow@protonmail.comCash App at:  $davidknightshowBTC to:  bc1qkuec29hkuye4xse9unh7nptvu3y9qmv24vanh7Mail: David Knight POB 994 Kodak, TN 37764Money is only what YOU hold: Go to DavidKnight.gold for great deals on physical gold/silver

Kim Congdon, Mike Figs and Ray DeVito join Luis J. Gomez and Zac Amico and discuss why Figs' podcast isn't on the network, a recap of the GaS Digital BBQ, finding a purpose for the Woketerns, freaking out at a worker in public, Brian Laundrie confessing to killing Gabby Petito, Roe vs Wade overturned and the reactions people have to it, World News With Mike Figs, Kim wanting to live like George Jetson, if moving sidewalks were in more places, Halle Berry in The Flintstones movie and so much more!(Air Date: June 27th, 2022) Support our sponsors!RockAuto.com - Go to Rock Auto for car parts at the best possible prices and let them know Real Ass Podcast sent you!Submit video pitching your innovative smoking device to RealAssOfficial@gmail.com!Submit your artwork via postal mail to:GaS Digital Networkc/o Real Ass Podcast151 1st Ave, #311New York, NY 10003Submit to be Luis' sparring partner by sending a video and your information to RealAssOfficial@gmail.com!Real Ass Podcast merchandise is available at https://podcastmerch.com/collections/real-ass-podcastYou can watch Real Ass Podcast LIVE for FREE every Monday, Wednesday and Friday at 11am ET at GaSDigitalNetwork.com/LIVEOnce you're there you can sign up at GaSDigitalNetwork.com with promo code: RAP for a 7-day FREE trial with access to every Real Ass Podcast show ever recorded! On top of that you'll also have the same access to ALL the shows that GaS Digital Network has to offer!Follow the whole show on social media!Kim CongdonTwitter: https://twitter.com/kimberlycongdonInstagram: https://instagram.com/kimcongdonMike FigsTwitter: https://twitter.com/ComicMikeFigsInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/comicmikefigsTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@figgythekidRay DeVitoTwitter: https://twitter.com/raydevitoInstagram: https://instagram.com/ray.devitoLuis J. GomezTwitter: https://twitter.com/luisjgomezInstagram: https://instagram.com/gomezcomedyYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/LuisJGomezComedyTwitch: https://www.twitch.tv/prrattlesnakeWebsite: https://www.luisofskanks.comZac AmicoInstagram: https://instagram.com/zacisnotfunnyGaS Digital NetworkTwitter: https://twitter.com/gasdigitalInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/gasdigital/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Arnie Niekamp (Hello from the Magic Tavern) joins Jordan and Jesse for a discussion of top soups, a wild Jamie Oliver song where he sings a recipe in a Jamaican accent, and the visual similarities between Duckman and George Jetson.