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Okay, let's wrap up our coverage of Dragon Con 2023! (Because come on, if this recap goes on much longer, we'll have to include Dragon Con 2024...) Kevin and the Mayor of Chickentown (reporting from Maine in the middle of a hurricane) are here to run through every crazy thing that happened over the last two days of the convention. Including: Bionic fun with Lindsay Wagner and Lee Majors, the Battle of the Mad Scientists, the Battle of the Fictional Bands, Christmas Con (with Robot Santa and horrifying holiday Spam), an ALF script reading (with Chris from Sci-Fi Explosion as ALF!), a Wonder Woman script reading (with Kevin as Steve Trevor, the Mayor as Etta Candy, and Joe in a gorilla suit!), panels on Stargirl and Titans with the American Sci-Fi and Fantasy Media Track, more hot Manimal talk with the American Sci-Fi Classics Track, and the upcoming Dragon Con-themed benefit book Dragon Tales! (Kevin wrote a chapter for this book. And it's quite silly, believe it or not.) Plus: Our favorite costumes, including a bizarre giant rubber chicken, a Weird Al group with tiny accordions, an eerily accurate Wilford Brimley, our friend Martha as Booster Gold, a million Mrs. Ropers, and a billion Barbies. We are officially exhausted. See you next year, nerds. The Flopcast website! The ESO Network! The Flopcast on Facebook! The Flopcast on Instagram! The Flopcast on Mastadon! Please rate and review The Flopcast on Apple Podcasts! Email: info@flopcast.net Our music is by The Sponge Awareness Foundation! This week's promo: Earth Station DCU!
A splendid Friday crossword by Enrique Henestroza Anguiano. Both your intrepid hosts, solving independently as always, found this to be a major struggle, with challenging but rewarding clues scattered throughout the grid. For example, 1D, Time to focus on oneself. MEDAY (not to be confused with the equally likely SPADAY -- equally likely in the sense that both have appeared 3 times in the NYTimes Crossword); 21D, Brainstorming diagram, IDEAMAP (my, we have been seeing MAP pop up a lot as of late, Will must be planning a trip
The Voice of Discovery Voice Actor Julianne Grossman drops by our virtual studio to talk about her work on shows like Star Trek Discovery, DC Animation as both Etta Candy and Hippolyta in Wonder Woman, Space Balls Animated Series, Star Wars The Old Republic, and other projects as well. We talk with Julianne about her work history, how she got into in voice work, what it means to her to be involved in both Star Wars and Star Trek, but we also talk about her work with the Did Hirsch Foundation for Suicide Prevention. For more about Julianne Grossman, please visit the following - Website - www.juliannegrossman.com Instagram - @julegross23 For more information on the Didi Hirsch Foundation, please visit the following - Website - https://didihirsch.org For more on FSF PopCast, please visit the following - Website - www.fsfpopcast.com Twitter and Instagram - @fsfpopcast Join our Discord! https://discord.gg/cpry4fCDTq Join our Patreon! https://patreon.com/fsfpopcast For RSWOF Merch - https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/31938193-rswof?store_id=1397534 100% of all proceeds Benefit Wish Upon a Teen For direct contributions - www.wishuponateen.org For more on our show partners - Big Boy Graphics - etsy.com/shop/bigboygraphics Bridgework Studios - https://www.teepublic.com/user/bridgework-studios Level Up Sabers - https://bit.ly/FSFLevelUpSabers
The Voice of Discovery Voice Actor Julianne Grossman drops by our virtual studio to talk about her work on shows like Star Trek Discovery, DC Animation as both Etta Candy and Hippolyta in Wonder Woman, Space Balls Animated Series, Star Wars The Old Republic, and other projects as well. We talk with Julianne about her work history, how she got into in voice work, what it means to her to be involved in both Star Wars and Star Trek, but we also talk about her work with the Did Hirsch Foundation for Suicide Prevention. For more about Julianne Grossman, please visit the following - Website - www.juliannegrossman.com Instagram - @julegross23 For more information on the Didi Hirsch Foundation, please visit the following - Website - https://didihirsch.org For more on FSF PopCast, please visit the following - Website - www.fsfpopcast.com Twitter and Instagram - @fsfpopcast Join our Discord! https://discord.gg/cpry4fCDTq Join our Patreon! https://patreon.com/fsfpopcast For RSWOF Merch - https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/31938193-rswof?store_id=1397534 100% of all proceeds Benefit Wish Upon a Teen For direct contributions - www.wishuponateen.org For more on our show partners - Big Boy Graphics - etsy.com/shop/bigboygraphics Bridgework Studios - https://www.teepublic.com/user/bridgework-studios Level Up Sabers - https://bit.ly/FSFLevelUpSabers
With very few choices left to him, Clark makes a difficult decision. Son of El is written and produced by Isaac Bluefoot. This is an unauthorized biography. The views expressed are not necessarily those held by DC Comics and Warner Media.This telling of Superman is an interpretation of the works of many writers and artists.Clark Kent, Jonathan Kent, and Lex Luthor were created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Schuster. Batman was created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane. Jason Todd was created by Gerry Conway and Don Newton. Dr. Fate was created by Gardner Fox and Howard Sherman. J'Onn J‘Onzz was created by Joseph Samachson and Joe Certa. Jason Blood was created by Jack Kirby. The Joker was created by Jerry Robinson, Bill Finger, and Bob Kane. Vandal Savage was created by Alfred Bester & Martin Nodell. Wonder Woman was created by William Moulton Marston and Harry G. Peter. John Stewart was created by Dennis O'Neil and Neal Adams. Vixen was created by Gerry Conway and Bob Oksner. Arthur Curry was created by Mort Weisinger and Paul Norris. Barry Allen was created by Robert Kanigher and Carmine Infantino. Wally West was created by John Broome and Carmine Infantino. Mr. Terrific was created by John Ostrander and Tom Mandrake. Ray Palmer was created by Julius Schwartz, Gardner Fox, and Gil Kane. John Constantine was created by Alan Moore and Steve Bissette. Steve Trevor was created by William Moulton Marston and Harry G. Peter. Etta Candy was created by William Moulton Marston and Harry G. Peter. Deadshot was created by David Vern Reed and Lew Sayre Schwartz. Black Lightning was created by Tony Isabella and Trevor Von Eeden. Bloodsport was created by John Byrne. Captain Atom was created by Joe Gill and Steve Ditko. Katana was created by Mike W. Barr and Jim Aparo.Manuscript Editing assistance by Tricia Riel. Theme Music by Royal Jelly. Additional music licensed through Creative Commons: Time Passing I by David Hilowitz, Headlights/Mountain Road by Blue Dot Sessions, Highway to the Stars by Kai Engel, Devil in the Details by David Hilowitz, Calm and Collected by Blue Dot Sessions, Dutiligi by Mello C, Taut by Chad Crouch, Sequence by Borrtex, Good Ideas Poorly Executed by Steve Combs, Hunter by Scott Holmes, Pep by Kirk Osamayo, Eclipse by Kirk Osamayo, Tarnish by Podington Bear, Emu in the Bass by Gorowski, Morning Mist by Podington Bear, No Good (Start the Dance by Ergo Phizmiz, Neogrotesque by Tortue Super Sonic, Maceonectar (Johnny Ripper Mix) by Saxsyndrum, Fog In a Dawn by Masato Abe, Slough by Podington Bear, There Is Always a Reason by Borrtex, Enhance Your Days (Johnny Ripper Mix) by Children of Kids.
Clark retreats to introspect. The Unauthorized Biography of Clark Kent continues. Son of El is written and produced by Isaac Bluefoot. The views expressed are not necessarily those held by DC Comics and Warner Media.This telling of Superman is an interpretation of the works of many writers and artists. Clark Kent, Jor-El, Martha Kent, and Lex Luthor were created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Schuster. Mr. Terrific was created by John Ostrander and Tom Mandrake. Kara Zor-El was created by Otto Binder and Al Plastino. Ray Palmer was created by Julius Schwartz, Gardner Fox, and Gil Kane. The Phantom Zone Projector was Robert Bernstein and George Papp. Vandal Savage was created by Alfred Bester & Martin Nodell. Ra's Al Ghul was created by Dennis O'Neil, Neal Adams, and Julius Schwartz. J'Onn J‘Onzz was created by Joseph Samachson and Joe Certa. Arthur Curry was created by Mort Weisinger and Paul Norris. Wonder Woman was created by William Moulton Marston and Harry G. Peter. Batman was created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane. Richard Grayson was created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane. Jason Todd was created by Gerry Conway and Don Newton. Steve Trevor was created by William Moulton Marston and Harry G. Peter. Etta Candy was created by William Moulton Marston and Harry G. Peter. Barry Allen was created by Robert Kanigher and Carmine Infantino. Wally West was created by John Broome and Carmine Infantino. Roy Harper was created by Mort Weisinger and George Papp. Green Arrow was created by Mort Weisinger and George Papp. Black Canary was created by Dennis O'Neil and Dick Dillon. Sandra Wusan was created by Dennis O'Neal and Ric Estrada.Manuscript Editing assistance by Tricia Riel. Theme Music by Royal Jelly. Additional music licensed through Creative Commons: Feather On the Crest by Blue Dot Sessions, Unialus by Jari Pitkanen, Discovery by Kirk Osamayo, One Little Triumph by Blue Dot Sessions, Above the Clouds by Frequeny Decree, Floatation by Bio Unit, Solitary by Bio Unit, Lady Marie by Blue Dot Sessions, Brotherhood by Monplaisir, An Empire For Your Heart by Eletrólise, Touch Your Breath by Masato Abe, Wave of the Synth by Uncan.
Clark attempts to broker peace. The Unauthorized Biography of Clark Kent continues. Son of El is written and produced by Isaac Bluefoot. The views expressed are not necessarily those held by DC Comics and Warner Media.This telling of Superman is an interpretation of the works of many writers and artists. Clark Kent, Martha Kent, Lois Lane and Lex Luthor were created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Schuster. Vandal Savage was created by Alfred Bester & Martin Nodell. Batman was created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane. Richard White was created by Michael Dougherty and Dan Harris. Steve Trevor was created by William Moulton Marston and Harry G. Peter. Etta Candy was created by William Moulton Marston and Harry G. Peter. Task Force X was created by Robert Kanigher and Ross Andru. Green Arrow was created by Mort Weisinger and George Papp. Wonder Woman was created by William Moulton Marston and Harry G. Peter. John Stewart was created by Dennis O'Neil and Neal Adams. Arthur Curry was created by Mort Weisinger and Paul Norris. The Flash was created by Robert Kanigher and Carmine Infantino. Martian Manhunter was created by Joseph Samachson and Joe Certa. Jason Todd was created by Gerry Conway and Don Newton. Colonel Vox was created by Martin Pasko, Joe Staton, and Dwayne McDuffie. Franklin Rock was created by Robert Kaniger and Joe Kubert. Emelia Harcourt was created by Rob Williams and Jim LeeManuscript Editing assistance by Tricia Riel. Theme Music by Royal Jelly. Additional music licensed through Creative Commons: Capering by Blue Dot Sessions, Rythme Leger by Bauchamp, Sprout Jam by Podington Bear, Low Coal Camper by Blue Dot Sessions, Tedukedo by Mello C, Calm and Collected by Blue Dot Sessions, Frog Dream (Instrumental) by Chad Crouch, Tropical Pleasure by Serge Quadrado, Donnalee by Blue Dot Sessions, Industrial 1 by Soulaflair, Lakers by Mello C, Bright White by Podington Bear, Devil in the Details by David Hilowitz, Balkana by 4bstr4ck3r.
Clark finds himself immersed in an international dispute.Son of El is written and produced by Isaac Bluefoot. This is an unauthorized biography. The views expressed are not necessarily those held by DC Comics and Warner Media.This telling of Superman is an interpretation of the works of many writers and artists.Clark Kent and Lex Luthor were created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Schuster.Batman was created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane.Starro was created by Gardner Fox and Mike Sekowsky.Steve Trevor was created by William Moulton Marston and Harry G. Peter.Etta Candy was created by William Moulton Marston and Harry G. Peter.Hal Jordan was created by John Broome and Gil Kane.John Stewart was created by Dennis O'Neil and Neal Adams.Vandal Savage was created by Alfred Bester & Martin Nodell.Arthur Curry was created by Mort Weisinger and Paul Norris.Wonder Woman was created by William Moulton Marston and Harry G. Peter.Martian Manhunter was created by Joseph Samachson and Joe Certa.Green Arrow was created by Mort Weisinger and George Papp.Black Lightning was created by Tony Isabella and Trevor Von Eeden.Manuscript Editing assistance by Tricia Riel. Theme Music by Royal Jelly. Additional music licensed through Creative Commons: State of Mind by Audiobinger, Donnalee by Blue Dot Sessions, The Rule by Kevin MacLeod, Neogrotesque by Tortue Super Sonic, Fly a Kite by Spectacular Sound Productions, Bright White by Podington Bear, Stickle by Blue Dot Sessions, The Undertake by Borrtex, Headlights/Mountain Roads by Blue Dot Sessions, Base Encryption by David Hilowitz, Below the Surface by Kyle Preston. Vik Fanceta Lan by Blue Dot Sessions, Mood by Dwoogie, Space Travel by Borrtex.
Clark and the league face a new kind of threat. The Unauthorized Biography of Clark Kent continues. The Unauthorized Biography of Clark Kent continues. Son of El is written and produced by Isaac Bluefoot. The views expressed are not necessarily those held by DC Comics and Warner Media.This telling of Superman is an interpretation of the works of many writers and artists. Clark Kent, Martha Kent, and Lex Luthor were created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Schuster. Vandal Savage was created by Alfred Bester & Martin Nodell. Steve Trevor was created by William Moulton Marston and Harry G. Peter. Etta Candy was created by William Moulton Marston and Harry G. Peter. Green Arrow was created by Mort Weisinger and George Papp. Task Force X was created by Robert Kanigher and Ross Andru. Bloodsport was created by John Byrne. Peacemaker was created by Joe Gill and Pat Boyette. Wonder Woman was created by William Moulton Marston and Harry G. Peter. Batman was created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane. Arthur Curry was created by Mort Weisinger and Paul Norris. Martian Manhunter was created by Joseph Samachson and Joe Certa. Hal Jordan was created by John Broome and Gil Kane. Starro was created by Gardner Fox and Mike Sekowsky. John Stewart was created by Dennis O'Neil and Neal Adams.Manuscript Editing assistance by Tricia Riel. Theme Music by Royal Jelly. Additional music licensed through Creative Commons: Lessor Gods of Metal by Blue Dot Sessions, Donnalee by Blue Dot Sessions, Everlasting Snow by Abstract Nostalgic Fractal Systems, Bright White by Podington Bear, Creeping by Borrtex, The Water and the Well by Nihilore, Constellations by Kirk Osamayo, Curious Process by Podington Bear, De Facto by Chad Crouch, My Downfall by Audiobinger.
Clark does his best to avoid politics. The Unauthorized Biography of Clark Kent continues. Son of El is written and produced by Isaac Bluefoot. The views expressed are not necessarily those held by DC Comics and Warner Media.This telling of Superman is an interpretation of the works of many writers and artists. Clark Kent, Lois Lane, Lex Luthor, and Martha Kent were created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Schuster. Peacemaker was created by Joe Gill and Pat Boyette. Lana Lang was created by Bill Finger and John Sikela. Steve Trevor was created by William Moulton Marston and Harry G. Peter. Etta Candy was created by William Moulton Marston and Harry G. Peter. Green Arrow was created by Mort Weisinger and George Papp. Black Canary was created by Dennis O'Neil and Dick Dillon. Roy Harper was created by Mort Weisinger and George Papp. Richard Grayson was created by Bill Finger and Bob Kane. The Flash was created by Robert Kanigher and Carmine Infantino. Ray Palmer was created by Julius Schwartz, Gardner Fox, and Gil Kane. Black Lightning was created by Tony Isabella and Trevor Von Eeden. Hal Jordan was created by John Broome and Gil Kane. Bizarro was created by George Papp and Otto Binder. Martian Manhunter was created by Joseph Samachson and Joe Certa. Prometheus was created by Grant Morrison and Arnie Jorgensen. Wonder Woman was created by William Moulton Marston and Harry G. Peter. Weather Wizard was created by John Broome and Carmine Infantino. The Toyman was created by Don Cameron and Ed Debrotka.Manuscript Editing assistance by Tricia Riel. Theme Music by Royal Jelly. Additional music licensed through Creative Commons: Trundle by Podington Bear, Gradual Sunrise by David Hilowitz, Fjord by Bio Unit, Ancora Dolcemente by Jari Pitkanen, Three Colors by Podington Bear, Last Day of High School by Borrtex, Donnalee by Blue Dot Sessions, Show Me by Borrtex, Night Vision by Podington Bear, Lady Marie by Blue Dot Sessions, Low Horizon by Kai Engel, Emu in the Bass by Gorowski, A Soul the Same by Audralic, Counting Lights by Kai Engel, Coming Home by Borrtex, Memory Wind by Podington Bear, Evermore by Jari Pitkanen, New England is Interesting by BOPD, Outside (Luxalove remix) by Luxalove, Big Feeling Man by Blue Dot Sessions, Boadicee (Johnny Ripper Mix) by Phasme, Rising Out of Stagnant Water by Jack Anderton, Swollen Clouds by Podington Bear, You Make My Heart Sing by Will Bangs, Flatlands 3rd by Blue Dot Sessions, Ashes by Jahzzar.
Diana finds the demigod Heracles bearing the weight of Paradise Island on his shoulders, while Steve Trevor and Etta Candy express their feelings. Twitter: @comicrundown Instagram: @comicbookrundown Email: comicbookrundown@gmail.com Hosted by Joe Janero and Ron Hanes Edited by Joe Janero Theme song provided by one of the Sex Turtles (Joe Cubas) Find our t-shirts at Redbubble and TeePublic https://www.redbubble.com/shop/comic+book+rundown?ref=search_box http://tee.pub/lic/vBbIJZ4eLQ0c
Diana returns from the Green Lantern Corps citadel just in time to help Hippolyte against Polyphemus and the Minotaur. Twitter: @comicrundown Instagram: @comicbookrundown Email: comicbookrundown@gmail.com Hosted by Joe Janero and Ron Hanes Edited by Joe Janero Theme song provided by one of the Sex Turtles (Joe Cubas) Find our t-shirts at Redbubble and TeePublic https://www.redbubble.com/shop/comic+book+rundown?ref=search_box http://tee.pub/lic/vBbIJZ4eLQ0c
Wonder Woman meets her namesake, while Hippolyte battles the hellspawn of the Hydra. Twitter: @comicrundown Instagram: @comicbookrundown Email: comicbookrundown@gmail.com Hosted by Joe Janero and Ron Hanes Edited by Joe Janero Theme song provided by one of the Sex Turtles (Joe Cubas) Find our t-shirts at Redbubble and TeePublic https://www.redbubble.com/shop/comic+book+rundown?ref=search_box http://tee.pub/lic/vBbIJZ4eLQ0c
Diana faces the seven-headed Hydra beyond the Doorway of Doom, while Queen Hippolyte seeks to aid her daughter. Twitter: @comicrundown Instagram: @comicbookrundown Email: comicbookrundown@gmail.com Hosted by Joe Janero and Ron Hanes Edited by Joe Janero Theme song provided by one of the Sex Turtles (Joe Cubas) Find our t-shirts at Redbubble and TeePublic https://www.redbubble.com/shop/comic+book+rundown?ref=search_box http://tee.pub/lic/vBbIJZ4eLQ0c
Zeus devises a challenge for Diana, with the freedom of Themyscira and the Amazons at stake. Twitter: @comicrundown Instagram: @comicbookrundown Email: comicbookrundown@gmail.com Hosted by Joe Janero and Ron Hanes Edited by Joe Janero Theme song provided by one of the Sex Turtles (Joe Cubas) Find our t-shirts at Redbubble and TeePublic https://www.redbubble.com/shop/comic+book+rundown?ref=search_box http://tee.pub/lic/vBbIJZ4eLQ0c
The Cheetah hunts Diana to get her claws on the lasso of truth, while Wonder Woman makes a fateful decision about man's world. Twitter: @comicrundown Instagram: @comicbookrundown Email: comicbookrundown@gmail.com Hosted by Joe Janero and Ron Hanes Edited by Joe Janero Theme song provided by one of the Sex Turtles (Joe Cubas) Find our t-shirts at Redbubble and TeePublic https://www.redbubble.com/shop/comic+book+rundown?ref=search_box http://tee.pub/lic/vBbIJZ4eLQ0c
Julia Kapatelis, her daughter Vanessa, Etta Candy and publicist Myndi Mayer all write at length about Wonder Woman in "Time Passages". Barbara Minerva also shows up. Twitter: @comicrundown Instagram: @comicbookrundown Email: comicbookrundown@gmail.com Hosted by Joe Janero and Ron Hanes Edited by Joe Janero Theme song provided by one of the Sex Turtles (Joe Cubas) Find our t-shirts at Redbubble and TeePublic https://www.redbubble.com/shop/comic+book+rundown?ref=search_box http://tee.pub/lic/vBbIJZ4eLQ0c
She's trading in her orange jumpsuit for a badge! Actress Adrienne C. Moore stars as Kelly Duff - a tough, unapologetic drug squad detective in Pretty Hard Cases, premiering September 10 on IMDb TV, Amazon's free streaming service. The fun and irreverent dramedy follows mismatched duo Samantha Wazowski (Meredith MacNeill, Baroness von Sketch Show), the optimistic, over-achieving detective and Kelly Duff (Adrienne C. Moore), the tough, unapologetic drug squad detective. These radically different women must put their differences aside and band together to take down one of the city's most notorious drug gangs. An accomplished television, film, voice-over and theater artist, Adrienne C. Moore is best known for her role as “Black Cindy” on Netflix's groundbreaking hit, Orange is the New Black. She's also been featured in 30 Rock, The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, Homeland and Law and Order: SVU, and recently voiced Etta Candy in DC's animated feature Wonder Woman: Bloodline and the upcoming Netflix original choose-your-own-adventure special, We Lost Our Human. On stage, she most recently starred in The Public Theatre's award-winning revival For Colored Girls Who Have Considered Suicide/When the Rainbow is Enuf. A Nashville native raised in Atlanta, Adrienne is passionate about her advocacy work with rescue animals.
Wonder Woman Black and Gold is another compilation of short stories that seems to be popular with the big two publishers lately. These vignettes focus different aspects of Wonder Woman. Publisher Description (W) Various (A) Various (CA) Joshua Middleton written by JOHN ARCUDI, AMY REEDER, BECKY CLOONAN, A.J. MENDEZ, AND NADIA SHAMMAS art by RYAN SOOK, AMY REEDER, BECKY CLOONAN,MING DOYLE, AND MORGAN BEEM Just in time for Wonder Woman's 80th anniversary, DC Comics proudly presents a new anthology series starring the Amazon Princess embellished in the the color of her famous lasso. You won't want to miss this thrilling series celebrating the woman who inspires us all…and that's the truth! Kicking things off, John Arcudi (B.P.R.D.) and Ryan Sook (Legion of Super-Heroes) reunite to show us the grace immortality grants a hero. Becky Cloonan (Wonder Woman) weaves a spine-tingling tale of Diana's most precious weapon against the darkness. Then Amy Reeder (Amethyst) takes us back to the Golden Age for a fun romp co-starring Etta Candy. AJ Mendez and Ming Doyle (Constantine: The Hellblazer) travel to Themyscira for a tense family reunion. And finally, Nadia Shammas and Morgan Beem (Swamp Thing: Twin Branches) show us a story of Diana's past failures coming back to haunt her. SUBSCRIBE to watch more videos like this one! LET'S CONNECT! -- Talk Nerdy to Me Facebook -- Zia Comics Facebook -- Zia Comics Twitter -- Zia Comics Instagram -- Talk Nerdy to Me website -- Zia Comics website LISTEN TO OUR PODCAST! - iTunes - RSS Feed - Stitcher - Google Play - Podbean - Spotify - Tune In/Alexa - Pandora #ziacomics #dccomics #wonderwoman #themyscira #dianaprince #blackandgold #joshuamiddleton #JOHNARCUDI #AMYREEDER #BECKYCLOONAN #AJMENDEZ #NADIASHAMMAS #RYANSOOK #AMYREEDER #BECKYCLOONAN #MINGDOYLE #MORGANBEEM
"March" Movie Madness part 3 (of 3)! For our final Justice League movie discussion, we go outside the DCEU and discuss two movies dealing with Wonder Woman's origins in very different ways. Professor Marston and the Wonder Women tells the story of Wonder Woman's creation and also looks at the unconventional lives of her creators. Meanwhile, the 2009 animated film provides a more modern take with an all-star vocal cast. Join us as we go down the rabbit hole that is Wonder Woman's history and discuss kink, polyamory, and BDSM. And -per usual- we swear a lot, too. Have questions/comments/concerns? Hit us up: tencenttakes@gmail.com ----more---- Jessika: I hope you realize what extremely heavy California accents we have. I hope you understand when the feedback comes in, that will be part of it! Hello and welcome to Ten Cent Takes, the podcast where we correct your comic misconceptions. One issue at a time. My name is Jessika Frazier and I am joined by my cohost, the royal robot, Mike Thompson. Mike: That's right. All my circuits are platinum or I don't know. Gold, gold plated, something. Jessika: Oh, gold plated. You've got like diamond and crusted things. They also serve a purpose being one of the sharpest items or Mike: Yeah I it. Thank you for that intro. Jessika: Of course. Well, the purpose of this podcast is to study comic books in ways that are both fun and informative. We want to look at their coolest, weirdest and silliest moments, as well as examine how they're woven into the larger fabric of pop culture and history. Now, today we're discussing the final installment of our "March" movie madness. Now I'm throwing heavy quotes around March movie madness because it is actually April. Mike: It's almost tax day at this point. Jessika: It's almost tax day. So we bled out a little bit, but we're trying to do these bi-weekly we got a little ahead of ourselves because we got so excited just to be talking about these things that we did a few more than we really anticipated in March, I would say to our listeners benefit. Mike: Yeah, sure. I concur. Jessika: So we are doing a deep dive into Wonder Woman's origins today. Now I'm not just talking about the origins of the character, but also of their creator and the reasons and motivations that drove this comic into existence. I'm excited about this. Mike: I am too. These movies were really pleasant surprises for different reasons. Jessika: I will agree with that wholeheartedly. Now, before we get into that, though. We love to do that whole one cool thing you've read or watched lately. And Mike, let's go ahead and start with you. Mike: Yeah. So I've been consuming a lot of Star Trek lately. I really enjoy the franchise in general, but I have this deep abiding passion for Deep Space Nine because my great uncle who was essentially my grandfather when I was growing up , we used to watch the show together every Sunday when we would go over to their house for dinner. So like, that was just this wonderful bonding activity with this guy who used to be a dive bomber in World War II and his very nerdy little 11-year-old nephew. I have these very treasured memories and I have the entire series on DVD of Deep Space Nine, which I will be buried with by the way. But both the entire series and the recent documentary about the show is on Amazon Prime. So I've been rewatching all of that, and I've been actually rereading some of the comics and then last week Star Trek Legends came out on a Apple Arcade and... it's fine. It's nothing special, but it's a fun distraction if you're a Trekkie who wants to just mash it up all the various characters from the different series together. So I currently have a away team with characters from the Next Generation and then Discovery and then the original series all together. And it's dumb, but it's fun. But this has led me down this rabbit hole, and I think that we should probably wind up doing an episode on Star Trek history in comics and how it actually helped shape the MCU as we know it. Jessika: I would love that. That sounds like so much fun. And I love Star Trek as well. I used to watch Star Trek with my dad. We were a Next Gen family. So I, you know, next gen and Riker jumping over chairs is like near and dear to my heart. Mike: I'm really bummed that that is not an animation and Star Trek Legends. It really makes me so grumpy. Jessika: What a miss. Such a missed opportunity Mike: What about you? What have you been reading or watching lately? Jessika: So I've been casually reading through a reprint of Giant-Size X-Men from 1975, and I say casually just kind of every once in a while I'll pick it up and I'll read through a few pages and be like, "Oh that was fun." And kind of put it back down again between whatever I'm doing. So of course you know they're they're retro comics and you know things are going to... it's me: Things are going to rub me the wrong way about some of the retro comics. Mike: A comic that's almost 40 years old possibly having some problematic elements to it? Go on. Jessika: Yeah no I try to set aside a lot of that but it is quite difficult with my very outspoken mind of mine. But one scene that really bothered me was from Storm's introduction. Professor X seeks out Storm in her native Kenya where she's legitimately saving the countryside by using her weather powers to get rid of drought. Mike: Right Jessika: But Professor X has the audacity to show up and say, "nah listen: Like I know you're helping quote unquote helping people here but I also need your help. And I'm much more important, let's be real. It's just a whole bag of yikes. Mike: Yeah I mean what year did giant size X-Men come out? Was that 75? Jessika: It was 75. Mhm. Mike: Yeah... That was the same year that we got Lois Lane turning black for a literal white savior piece of journalism. Racial sensitivity was not really a thing back then Jessika: Yeah, absolutely. And I and I do try to put myself into that mindset It's just so cringey though in this day and age to see things like that Mike: Yeah. Jessika: What I do like about it that everybody is so salty to one another. Like so salty. They're so sassy to one another. Every other page has just a roast battle between the members of the X-Men where they're like "yeah, One Eye" like Mike: I think I read a reprint of that when I was like 12 or 13 but I haven't re-read it at all recently. So I'll have to go back and check that out Jessika: I'll throw it your way. You can borrow it. It's fun. Well let's get into the meat of our episode and this was definitely a meaty topic. And I know I told you a little bit earlier I love me a good rabbit hole. Love jumping just right into them right off the top I read –more like I listened to but I mean it was a lot of time spent– three different audio books on the topic. Mike: Yeah no that's awesome I'm so excited to hear about all of Jessika: this. And the hard part then was whittling down what information I really wanted to give you. I highly recommend all of these resources and I really want to just throw them out at the top We will also throw them into the show notes. But I highly recommend -if you're interested in this topic- go read more about this because I'm not even touching the surface of these books. They are amazing. So the first one that I read was it was actually an article from smithsonian.com titled "the surprising origin story of Wonder Woman" by Jill LePore which led me to Jill LePore's larger book or I would say more extended book called The Secret History of Wonder Woman. It was also read by the author, so if you're a book on tape person, highly recommend listening to it. She's one of those people who really keeps your attention and she doesn't have that kind of drowsy lilt that some people do while they're reading, So I definitely I was able to stay really focused on it. And the last one was Wonder Woman Psychology by Trina Robbins and that had a couple of different narrators but that one was also very interesting and talked about all of the different aspects of the time and the different parts of psychology and gets more into because you know spoiler alert the author was a psychologist It does get deeper into that whole aspect of the reasons behind the comic in that way. Mike: That's a really cool and I'm really excited to hear everything that you learned because this is a topic that I had a vague awareness of but I have tried to stay as in the dark as possible for this episode because I'm really excited to learn from you about this Jessika: Let's all go on a learning journey together, Folks. What do you say. Mike: Yeah. Hop on the magic school bus kids. Jessika: Here we go. Mike: We're going to hang out with Goth Miss Frizzle. Jessika: Oh my gosh I know I'm wearing all black today and I have high bun. Very McGonigal right now. Mr Porter Um so Diana Prince is the secret identity of Wonder Woman but did you know that the creator of Wonder Woman had a secret identity himself? Well, today we're going to be discussing the creator of Wonder Woman, Charles Milton... or should I say William Moulton Marston. Marston's name, like his stories, were an amalgamation of fact and fiction his middle name mixed with that If max gains one of the co-founders of All-Star Comics and later DC, which stands for Detective Comics -fun fact: I didn't know that- where Wonder Woman made her debut. But Marston was hiding more than just a name. He had an entire life that he kept hidden from the world. William Moulton Marston was born in Massachusetts in May of 1893 to Frederick William Marston and Annie Marston. They bestowed upon him his mother's maiden name molten as a middle name, and as I've mentioned the last name he later uses as his nom du plume. By all accounts he seemed to have a easy childhood though I did hear reports that he was in the military for a stint I should say acting as a psychologist... I believe that was after his Harvard education, though He was accepted to Harvard for his advanced education and he eventually graduated and became a professor of psychology. While attending Harvard, Marston had many interests. One of them being the intelligent and motivated Elizabeth Holloway, whom he would later marry and who had been taking courses in one of the lesser quote unquote lesser universities that you know allowed women at that time. Mike: That was pretty standard at the time, right? Higher education for women was a new thing that was very looked down upon? Jessika: Oh it was incredibly new. This was the early 1900s. We're talking before 1910. That area. Women didn't have the right to vote yet which we definitely will get into. Didn't have the right to vote until 1920. That was a good few years before that point So the schools had the male schools would have a sister school basically or a lesser school . And for Harvard that was Radcliffe, which is where Holloway went And this was considered again the sister school But of course didn't have the same name and you didn't get the same degree .You still graduated from Radcliffe and women really didn't have the option to go down that actual Harvard route, which of course didn't give them an edge at all No edge Thanks a lot. Mike: Yeah what did you use a degree for back then? Jessika: I mean, nothing. What are you going to do with this degree in your home, in the kitchen? The oven doesn't need you to have a degree. It's just so gross. Mike: It's not a masters in baking roasts, Linda Jessika: And how they wished it were. You would think. Harvard acted like that. It was rough. She did however finish her education and become an lawyer with her degree being issued from Radcliffe despite petitioning multiple times to get a Harvard degree, since she was taking the same classes, they were the same classes. Mike: With the same professors, too, right? Jessika: Oh, yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The class just had women in it instead of men That was the only difference. During college she and Marston were inseparable. One of the biographies I read stated that there was this rule that a woman could not walk or ride unaccompanied with a man However Holloway thought that was a completely stupid rule and just didn't follow it, which I love. She's like, "fuck that." Mike: That's so good. Jessika: And everything else I read about her said "fuck the rules, I do what I want." Which is so amazing for a woman in the early 1900s. I mean it's kind of an interesting concept right now let alone the 1900s. Mike: Yeah... we still have all of these societal norms that women are not supposed to go against. Jessika: Yeah. So Marston varied interests also included a search for "the truth." Quote unquote the truth. This was partially inspire Now part of what he invented I should say was inspired by an observation by Holloway that when she got mad or excited her blood pressure seemed to climb. And from that Marston created the earliest version of what we now know as the lie detector test or polygraph. The test is we know it now measures more than just blood pressure which was really the only thing he was checking on. Blood pressure in and of itself isn't going to tell you everything that you quote unquote need to know for a lie detector to be effective. That being said it's also mostly an admissible as we know it now in the US court of laws depending on the place and both parties have to agree to have it be accepted into the court case which I found I didn't know that. Yeah! Mike: I knew that growing up lie detector tests were considered to be kind of this infallible thing. And then it was like well you know you can sort of get around it by all these old wives tales of like you know you put a tack in your shoe and you press your toe against it and the pain messes up the results. And then later on I found out that they're not really great, they're not really admissible anymore but I didn't know that because I know that a lot of law enforcement still loves to rely on it. Jessika: Yeah and I think about the if you think about when you're nervous you can have a lot of different reasons for being nervous. Not because you're lying, necessarily. You could be a bad test taker and then you suddenly look like a guilty party It could be as that. Mike: I'm just thinking about all the times that I had to give public speeches. Either class presentations or later on when I was a journalist and I was moderating panels. Every time my pulse would be through the roof. Jessika: Same. Now can you imagine being somebody who is of an oppressed or a minority population who's being put into a situation where they have people of power who have them in a room and they have control and that is a really scary thing. Mike: Yeah, that sounds like a nightmare scenario. Jessika: I can imagine my heart rate going up in that situation, so having that be the measure doesn't seem like the best of ideas In my opinion. That being said, it does seem to be admissible in the court of Steve Wilkos and other daytime television shows. Mike, tell me the truth: Do you or have you ever watched those daytime shows like Maury or Jerry Springer or Steve Wilkos? Mike: Yeah, so... Not only did I watch Maury during the daytime when I was just working on stuff at school and I wanted something on in the background, but I was a staff photographer for a newspaper during a celebrity golf tournament and Maury Povich was one of the celebrity golfers. He was really nice I wound up chatting with him for a minute while he was waiting for his turn at golf. I really feel like I missed an opportunity to have him record saying that I was not the father because that was the big thing that he was doing back then was all those paternity tests. Jessika: You say that like he's not still doing that. Mike: I don't know, does he still have show? I don't have TV anymore Jessika: I think so. You know, I really just catch clips. What I'll do is if I'm working and I have to be paying attention to my work -or if I if it's not something mindless like entering data or something- I like to listen to podcasts if I can actually pay attention but if I can't I'll just put on -and I don't watch it but I'll just- put on rotating clips through Facebook or something just go through Facebook watch and just whatever comes up next comes up. And every once in a while we'll get one of those Steve Wilkos and I hear "STEEEEVE" and I'm like, "Oh here we go." And it's always it's always a lie detector test, still to this day. Mike: Was Steve the guy who got his own show sprung off of like spun off of Jerry Springer? Jessika: "sprung off Springer." Correct. Yes. Mike: My roommate and I in college loved to watch Jerry Springer at night because it was the trashiest shit and we not stop. It was like a train wreck, you couldn't look away. Which I think was generally the appeal of Jerry Springer. But it's hard to resolve that because every interview I've seen with the guy he seems like a really pleasant down to earth human being. And then I'm like but you put the trashiest shit on television and it is demonstrable the effect that you had on daytime talk shows for a long time and still to this day in certain ways but for a while everybody was aping that. Anyway, this was a tangent. Jessika: That's okay It was exactly the tangent I wanted. Mike: Maury seemed like a lovely person for all two minutes that I interacted with him, and I hope that Jerry Springer is the person that he seems to be during interviews. Jessika: Same. Well, speaking of life drama, Marston had plenty. Mike: Oh, do tell. Jessika: Yeah. He was already married to his wife the aforementioned Elizabeth -who for consistency I'm going to continue calling Holloway though she did take his name when they got married. Marston, working as a professor at Tufts which is another university, fell in love with one of his students, Olive Byrne, in 1925 and advised his wife that Byrne could either move in or Marston was leaving. Mike: Oh. Jessika: Yeah. That was what the history said So we'll talk through the movie later Mike: Yeah, 'cuz my only familiarity with this so far is what I saw in the movie. *uggggh* Jessika: That was my reaction I now I did my research prior to watching the movie for this exact reason. So I watched the movie last night. It's super fresh. Mike: Yeah I watched it yesterday afternoon and then I watched the other one which we'll get into so it was the origins of Wonder Woman and then Wonder Woman a little bit more modern incarnation. Jessika: Perfect. Yeah. Byrne interestingly enough was the niece of Margaret Sanger. Have you heard that name before Mike: Yeah. She was like one of the early women's rights crusaders. Jessika: Yeah Yup Yup She was a renowned women's rights and birth control activist along with her sister Ethel Byrne opened the first birth control clinic in the United States which is so cool Mike: Yeah, that's awesome. Jessika: Both however were arrested for the illegal distribution of contraception and Ethel Byrne almost died during a hunger strike while she was in jail. Mike: I remember reading about that like in one of my one of my history classes. I mean, that checks out. Jessika: It was bad news bears. So I didn't write this down but I'm just remembering but I did read or listened to sources that said that multiple women were arrested and went on hunger strike and they were forced feeding them It was just it was bad news. The whole thing was just bad. So this obviously was during a time when women were still fighting for the right to vote as I'd mentioned earlier. And the idea of feminism was just a twinkle of a notion. So Byrne Holloway and Marston all three lived together for years as a throuple. Super interestingly they made up a backstory for all of as a widowed relative and both Holloway and Byrne were raising Marston's children. Byrne's Children were always told that their father had passed away and did not find out about the truth of their father's identity until after his death. Mike: Wow. So he fathered children with both women, correct? Jessika: He did. Yeah He fathered I believe two with Byrne and three with Holloway. They all live together in a house and again they managed to keep it secret enough that even their children didn't know. In the same house It's so wild to me Like how you and Mike: Insane to me. Jessika: You fathered children with this woman and they didn't know. No one knew. I can't fathom that honestly. Especially in a time when everybody was up at everybody else's business. Mike: Oh yeah. It's not like we had Netflix. You needed to do invent your own drama. Jessika: You look out Mike: the window. Before Marston died because he died fairly young as I remember it. So that was the whole thing in the movie is that they got out as being in a throuple to their neighbors. Nothing? Jessika: Never happened. They didn't get in trouble at the school. They didn't get in trouble with the neighbors. None of that. It was seamless. Mike: That actually makes me really happy. Jessika: Me too Mike: I love the idea of it sounds like a relatively healthy family. Jessika: I Mike: don't know. Maybe? Jessika: Y'know from what I was hearing because we're still in 1910 we're still in the 1920s I guess at this point it's still is like Marston is Papa Marston he's still man of the house. So I don't know especially when you're looking at this whole -how it was phrased and this is just a couple of sources- but just as far as how it's phrased in this I don't know that Holloway really had a choice other than "well I could be stuck here with" I don't know if she had children at that point "I could maybe be stuck as a single mother in the 1920s or I could allow this other woman to come into my house" but what's great about that is Byrne was able to just stay home and raise the kids. So Holloway was still able to go out and have a career. Yeah She still went out and had a career And so that's where it's I have a hard time saying definitively black and white Marston was a feminist as we would call him now. Probably not. But he definitely had the leanings of that. And he definitely was far advanced for his time Mike: sure I can only imagine. Was he still teaching during this time or was he doing something else? Jessika: He did so many things. He did so many things and I'll actually get into that a little bit further. But it was such a it did seem like a good situation for everyone. Marston had multiple professional interests And Marston believed not only in equality for women, but even further he believed that society should be matriarchal... which is where he goes a little bit more like a Ooh he just kind of swings off you know Cause he's like, "no no no no we should go in the exact 180. There's no middle ground here Women should rule society." Sure right now we live with men. Let's flip it over on its head and see how it goes I guess? But would settle for equality. Mike: Speaking as a mediocre white dude I'm totally fine with this plan. Jessika: Great Let's put it into effect. Who could I call? Papa Joe? I'll bring Mike: it up at the next meeting at the next mediocre white dude club meeting Jessika: I knew you guys had meetings. The gays definitely have meetings Well yeah You know you know you know I'm like well like I'm excluding you from the LGBT community That's rude of me and my Mike: apologies. The rest of them already do already. It's fine. Jessika: To Touché. We did have that conversation earlier. Biphobia. It's a real problem Mike: Yeah It's fun. Jessika: Yeah we were talking about Marston and his wild matriarchal ideas. And his idea was that women were more thoughtful empathetic and level headed when making decisions and would be better suited to positions of leadership. And Marston is quoted as saying -and if you want us to read this quote for me: Mike: okay! " Frankly Wonder Woman is a psychological propaganda for the new type of woman who, I believe, should rule the world." Jessika: So you can kind of see where he was going with that. Obviously she's powerful, she's more powerful than most of the men that she comes across. And he really was trying to flip that on its head with this character. Mike: Yeah. There was nothing like her before that Jessika: No. Absolutely nothing. Absolutely nothing. However Marston's entry into the entertainment business didn't start with feminine power of Wonder Woman but instead with the film industry and again this is early film we're talking. He was in the silent film era and then moved talkies. Mike: Golden Age. Jessika: The Golden Age. And there he wrote screenplays and later acted as the consulting psychologist for universal pictures which I didn't even know That was a thing Having a consulting psychologist makes a lot of sense Mike: Yeah it does I just had no idea that was even a role that existed back then. Jessika: Yeah I know. And back then even I know. And at this point he'd already been published, having written dozens of magazine articles and a novel about his opinions Let's just call them or his findings about psychology at the time. And it is called a novel So just keep that in mind. It's called "Emotions of People" I believe. And they do mention it briefly in the film I didn't read it. I'm sure I could jump around and do I just didn't want to get into 1920s garbage which to He was then asked in 1941 to be the consulting psychologist for DC by Maxwell Charles Gaines who was more or less the creator of comics as we know them. At the time Gaines was under fire for content that folks deemed at the time to be risque. So he hired Marston to take off some of the heat by approving the content that was going out. With Marston on the team the largest complaints that they received was the aggressive masculinity that seemed to be the theme of all of the comic books. Yeah I know. You would think that we live in this society that values men so much you would think that we'd be able to just carry on with that you one form. Mike: Yeah Especially during that era which was right when we were getting into World War II and we were going hard for those traditional masculine values Jessika: Yup we want strong men who can go out there and die, I mean fight, for us. Yes. Marston suggested that the best way to counter that idea with the critics was to create a female superhero. Now Gaines accepted the idea but told Marston he had to write the strip himself. So he did. And with the help of illustrator Harry G Peter, Wonder Woman was in essence born. She was fierce, she was strong, she had a lasso that was that made others obey. It wasn't a truth thing that we now know it as the lasso of truth It was an obedient situation. Everybody who was lassoed had to obey her. So it was more of a dominance situation, which we will absolutely get to. And it makes a little bit more sense. Although there again with his lie detector the truth also makes sense. Either way, it tracks but it was obedience. Mike: Yeah you don't say. Jessika: One of her most important qualities was that she didn't kill. That was her empathy. That was that piece of her that was more feminine than some of those other comic book characters, those typical comic book characters Mike: Yeah. Even in the early days I know Batman killed people originally. He was like a goon and I think Superman did too in his early run. I think, can't remember for sure. Jessika: I believe so And then they when they got the comics code? When it was stricter with the comics code that's when they kind of moved into less actual killing from what I was reading I believe. Mike: You know I don't know for certain but it may have been before that because they were just they're such popular characters for kids. But I'm not entirely certain but I know that the early appearances are pretty brutal. I remember Batman hanging a dude from his plane. Jessika: Well I mean Superman came out in 1939 so yeah it's early. I'm going to send you a picture Mike: Okay. Jessika: And so this is the first introduction to Wonder Woman which was seen on the cover of sensation comics Will you please describe the cover? Mike: Yeah .So it is Sensation Comics Number One, the best of the DC magazines. You see Wonder Woman I'm not sure if the sun is really enlarged or if she is just jumping in front of something that's yellow to kind of add a little color to it but she is being shot at by a bunch of what appear to be mobsters somewhere in Washington DC because the capital is there and... is that is that the Lincoln Memorial? I can't tell what other building is that has the flag. Jessika: Apparently they're right across the street from each other. Not real life. This is scale. Mike: It looks like a vaguely government building I can't tell. Jessika: Yeah supposed to be something like that Mike: But it says "featuring the sensational new adventure strip character Wonder Woman!" You got to get that exclamation point in. She's kind of jacked like even back then which I kind of love. She is wearing a truly unflattering pair of boots that are only going up to mid calf as opposed to what we know now where they're just above the knee and armored and bad-ass. But it's the outfit that actually she's still sort of rocking the day where she's got the kind of red bustier with the gold eagle on it and then she's got the bulletproof bracelets and then she's got what I can only describe it as the bottom part of a sun dress kind of skirt where it's like very flowy? As opposed to that that gladiatorial skirt that she has now. But it's very identifiably Wonder Woman. Jessika: Yeah. And it goes back and forth between this was her first debut but it wasn't her first issue. first issue she was wearing more of what people were calling underpants of this same pattern. And that's what more used to. Yeah We're used to those like little booty shorts that she's rocking. So, right off the bat: Mike if you were a critic, in 1942 what would your main complaint about this be? Just based on the cover? Mike: I don't know. They were really concerned about the violence that was being marketed towards kids so probably the gunfire. Probably the fact that she was showing too much skin. Jessika: it. She wasn't clothed enough .Oh, they didn't care about the gunfire. That was not what was that was not the problem. Gasp. The drama was that Wonder Woman was wearing far too few clothes for Puritan America. Mike: Jesus Christ. And that's actually super tame Jessika: It's really tame. When you think about other superheroes that we have nowadays especially: You've got these massive boobs that are up to her neck and this little waist and like wearing a thong. But this is so covered Mike: Yeah. A lot of modern comics have these very almost suggestive poses. Do you remember when the Avengers came out and and all of the dudes had very action-oriented poses and then Black Widow was turned so that we could see her butt? She had Jessika: her like her arm up so that you could see her boob line. Mike: Yeah. And it's a really action oriented pose and it's very matter of fact there is nothing sexualized about that, kinda love. Jessika: Marston made it a point for her to be doing action and for her to be doing sports and for her to be doing things that were very active because women weren't given that as a role. So he really wanted to present that as another facet of, "Hey, this can also be feminine. Yeah I thought so, too. And while a slight costume adjustment seemed easy enough to deal with some critics also had qualms with other aspects of the comic. Namely, the depiction of women especially our heroine being tied or chained up or left in other positions of containment. Now, Marston's intention behind this seemed to be twofold in my opinion. Part one feminism and part two I also think he was just in kinky motherfucker. Which is great. Like, that's fine no kink shame. But we're going to briefly discuss both. So part one feminism. Marston was a supporter of women's rights, as we said. He was a supporter of the right to vote and the ability to have access to contraceptives. He'd been a supporter of these movements in his own right and was particularly struck by the female suffragettes who would chain themselves to a location in protest. Chains seem to him to be the very image brought to life of how society chains down and stifles women from succeeding. Either chaining them to their family before they're wed, chaining them to their new husband, or chaining them to pregnancies that they either cannot afford or don't want. In each of these portrayals of Wonder Woman being tied down there is always the moment that she's able to break free from her restraints in triumph which is just a perfect metaphor for the modern woman being able to break free from the societal chains that still bind her. And this hope that women will be able to eventually free themselves for good. In everything I've read, you had women suffragettes chaining themselves to places in protest. Same thing with the contraceptive movement. That was a huge metaphor for both of those movements, so it would make sense that if you are portraying a feminist during that era that that might be a theme. And I think people who maybe didn't support or were unfamiliar with the movements might have something to say negatively against the imagery, especially if they didn't understand Mike: We had a lot of people back then who were really pushing for propriety and basically you can't let immoral elements affect the children. They always fucking latch on to like "think of the children. Protect the children." Fuck off. Jessika: We still do that shit. This is just like pizza gate all over again. Mike: Yeah Jessika: Pizza gate before pizza gate. Little did they know. But part two: the kink factor. Marston had a whole dominance theory that I think tells a lot more about him than it does to the human experience In general I'm not going to get deep into the theory because we both have lives but it pertains to dominance and submission at the very minimum. Mike: You don't say. Jessika: Yo I know right. Mike: What. Shock. Jessika: At this point it's pretty well established that individuals have different drives and things that excite them. But I think that Marston was looking at the world from a place of, oh I like this So everybody is like this." Which just isn't the case for everybody. Mike: Right. But that's also like a very stereotypical kind of dude attitude. Jessika: Yeah. This is my worldview and so it must be everybody's. Absolutely. Again, he's some Harvard bro. Mike: Yeah. Yeah. Jessika: You're able to just go to Harvard in 1925 like Mike: NBD. I'm Jessika: gonna Mike: to be living near there soon. Oh God. I'm going to Jessika: be visiting you soon. I've got the people there. You're fine. We'll get you there. We'll get you there. But my impression is that he assumed that everyone else was a little kinky like him. Also it needs to be stated that again in interviewing Marson's children they never saw toys, ropes, anything that he had mentioned in the comics or that were the things that were being taken as this great offense, they didn't see any of those things. So it was this was also a complete surprise to them nothing related to bondage. Mike: Yeah that's wild man. I just I think about the fact that my partner has stories about how when everyone was out of the house she would just snoop around when she was growing up. And I remember doing that too And kids get into shit. Jessika: We also grew up in the age in the era of the latchkey child, though. My parents would just and not for long periods of time it's not like they would go out of town or something. But they'd leave us and say "don't answer the door. You're not home. Don't answer the phone. We'll call and ring twice and then hang up and then call back If we want to talk to you know whatever there was a code. But there again we lived in a different time even this many years I mean it just we sound like old people every time we have this conversation. Mike: You know someone pointed out that if Back To The Future was taking place today Marty McFly would be going back to like 91. Jessika: Don't do this to me. Mike: We're old, Jess. Jessika: We're Mike: practically Jessika: this Okay Mike. This is going to seem like such a non-sequitur But have you ever had to do a DISC personality assessment for any of your offices jobs? Mike: I don't think so. The name isn't familiar but describe this to me. Jessika: Basically it's like any of those other stupid employee personality tests where they try to like "what part of the team are you? How can we use your strengths?" I'm a supervisor so I've had to go through all this crap. And it's cool. It's a cool concept but it's also like mind numbing if it's not your wheelhouse. Mike: No. So I've never taken anything like this no. Jessika: Okay So yeah you basically answered a bunch of questions about what you would do in a situation. And it's kind of one of those no wrong answers kind of tests. And then they put you into one of four different categories. So I have had to do this before and and other ones like it but I honestly can't remember what I scored and I'm not going to get into a long-winded lecture on the topic either but suffice it to say that part of that is dominance That's the D and part of it is compliance which is the C. Mike: So was this something Marston came up with? Jessika: Yeah. Marston came up with and it's we still use version of this today which is so interesting. So far he's got lie detector, check. We still kind of use it today. Steve Wilkos does. And then now he's got the DISC which I definitely have taken. Now, it doesn't look the same. The categories are not the same as when he first created them. So less kink forward I would say. But you still have those two that are vibing you know. And for those of you are you unfamiliar with the kink scene: Power dynamics in play can sometimes come in the form of having one dominant and one submissive partner. But again not everybody functions in that way. Ultimately, wonder Woman was allowed to continue as she was. Delighting readers even to this day though of course the writing has changed hands multiple times meaning that her true meaning was sometimes lost to those who were in charge of telling her story. For example once Wonder Woman entered the Justice League she was immediately made to be the secretary. And there were many times that she was relegated to staying behind because she just had so much to take care of and "oh little old me couldn't get involved in having lifting" bullshit. God damn. She's so fucking strong. She has powers and Batman doesn't. Why the fuck does he get to go on missions? Why the fuck Isn't Batman the secretary? That's my question. Oh he has money my own his Mike: power that he's rich. Jessika: God damn. Yeah. Thanks for that Ben Affleck. We know. Still like him as Batman. Mike: Yeah. I'll die on that hill he was good. Jessika: Yeah Yeah He was good There was also a point where she lost her powers completely though did gain them back, those were times that Wonder Woman didn't necessarily feel like the fierce warrior she truly is. Mike: Yeah, actually, Brian's comics -our local comic shop- the first time I went in there they had the all-new Wonder Woman issue where it's like this iconic cover where it's her tearing up I think the original version of her and it's like get ready for the all new Wonder Woman I think that's when they de-powered her. I think. I'm not certain I'm really bummed that I didn't pick that up when it was there. Jessika: The idea behind that apparently was supposed to be that would make her more human and relatable but that's not you're just taking away the things that make her a stronger character for people that look up to her. Mike: Yeah I'm sorry. Did you were you able to hear my eyes rolling out of their Jessika: I did actually Yeah no that was a really palpable eye-roll. well Marston passed away at the age of 53 of cancer So very young like you were saying. Yeah. Holloway and Byrne continue living together until they both went into the hospital around the same time in 1990. When Byrne passed away, in a different room in the same hospital at the age of 86. Mike: I Jessika: got teary writing this so I'm probably going to get teary reading it. Upon hearing the news of burns passing Holloway sang a poem by Tennyson in her hospital room. So everything I've read alludes to the idea that Holloway and Byrne were also in a relationship with each other not just the man with all of them that they did have there were women who were kind of rotating in the house. It wasn't just these two there were other women who at different periods of time lived in the house undetected by the way can we just give it up for the Marston Family. Mike: Like. How? Jessika: That's what I'm saying. I don't know, money? And the dude had his little hands in everything so he probably just knew a bunch of people I don't know How do you get away with things as a guy I literally can't even imagine. Mike: This is my friend who's coming over to assist with this thing? The question is were they just coming into visit or were they living there for periods of Jessika: time? They were living there for a parts. Yes I know me too. I know. Okay let's run through: You have a widowed relative. You could be bringing in a nanny. You could be bringing in another person who works in the house et cetera et cetera. You could be bringing in a cousin or another type of relative. I'm sure you could excuse up the yin yang. Mike: Yeah I mean you can come up with excuses but if they're like living with you for any amount of time there are those moments of small intimacies that other people will pick up on. I don't know I mean were the kids just dumb? I don't know like how that requires some serious commitment to acting I feel. Jessika: Yeah. Oh yeah. Mike: So much fucking effort. Jessika: I was just going to say that. Can you imagine? I can't. Mike: No. Jessika: The mental strain alone. Mike: Like I have one partner, I have step-kids, and I have pets and that's like that's kind of the extent of my bandwidth. Jessika: Oh okay So I am non-monogamous or Poly, polyamorous. So I do have multiple partners although I they're what I would consider like secondary partners or partners that I don't I don't live with them, I don't necessarily see them on a super regular basis but I still maintain a relationship with them. And I still consider them partners. To whatever you know effect that is. But it is a lot of work and it's so much communication and you can just tell that Marston had to have been really communicative and that whole family had to have been really communicative. Mike: They must have been. Jessika: Or else how. Mike: At the same time like that era men weren't necessarily expected to be super communicative or show a lot of emotion or be the one to provide nurturing experiences with the kids. So maybe they just didn't get a lot of exposure to the kids and were really just exposed to their mothers and the motherly figures. I mean, this is all completely uninformed speculation so don't take anything that I'm saying with even a grain of salt like this. Jessika: Oh no. Absolutely at any rate Holloway passed away in 1993 at the ripe age of 100. Mike: Oh wow. So there was a little bit Jessika: of an age difference. Around Yeah there was there was yeah. Sounds like about a little bit less than 20 years. About 14 years. But if you think about it she was in college. Mike: Yeah. Jessika: He was her teacher and they were already married. He went to I want to say that he started college like prior to 1910. And they met and she moved into the house in 1925. So that's a good 15. Mike: He would have been about he would have been about 17 and 1910 right? Based on it like he was 1893 he said? Jessika: Yes yes. Yeah. And it sounds like Holloway was born the same year. Mike: Yeah and I got to say the love story between Holloway and Byrne sounds like something straight out of a movie. Which we're about to get into. But we all want to have that partner who is with us till the bitter end and then they sing a poem in our memory. Like goddamn. Jessika: It's just so beautiful. Yeah. They had it when they live together in the house, they had adjoining rooms and this is where it's like how did your kids not know because Marston would sleep in both. How did he like literally how did they not know? No it's wild to me. And then when they were older, byrne and Holloway lived in a little two bedroom place in Tampa together. This cute place apparently. So let's talk about our reactions here. We did also watch Professor Marston and the Wonder Women which I think it's worth a watch in my just off the bat. Mike: Yeah. I really liked it a lot and it was a movie that totally flew under the radar for me when it came out. I was vaguely aware of it but I really did not know much about it before we talked about what movies we wanted to do and March being women's month it seemed like a natural conclusion after the DCEU. Jessika: Yeah. Absolutely. That train wreck. I'm sorry. Mike: I was Jessika: of We did. We did enjoy one of the movies and we enjoyed aspects of of them. I trailed off my brain wouldn't let me do it It's like no that sentence Mike: I mean we kind of enjoyed parts of the Snyder cut Jessika: We did We liked it better Mike: than I don't like we're still Jessika: bitching about the Snyder Cut Mike: Look at Jessika: this Mike: back Jessika: Goddammit. We've literally can't get away from it Zach Snyder, hit us up.. No don't. You're not going to like what you hear I'm going to get to eat It adds Zach Snyder is going to be like Mike: I want the Snyder cut of Professor Marston in the Women which will be just scenes of Luke Evans with the Women in the background and don't do anything else. Jessika: And there's no dialogue in this one at all. It's just it's just heavy looks. Mike: It's just all the scenes from that sorority scene just over and just dark, scenes. Jessika: Definitely talk about that. Oh. What did you think about the film overall. Mike: Like I said, I overall really enjoyed it. I had heard about this movie a little bit. I remember my weightlifting partner at the time was telling me about how she and her wife had gone and enjoyed it and she thought that I would really like it. And I was like, "yeah okay cool." And then it just I didn't get around to seeing it while it was out in it's very limited run in theaters. And then I don't think it ever came to any streaming platform when I was aware of it. I was really surprised by actually how much I did enjoy it. I thought it was a shockingly sweet love story and I was expecting something much more judgmental or scandalous I was really expecting a much more judgy story about the Marstons and Byrne raising an entire family as a throuple. Jessika: was too. Mike: I was wondering if the relationship was ever outed and if they ever did break up like they did in the movie because that felt kind of forced and it felt very Hollywood and I was like "all right, whatever. This is dumb." At the end where they're on their knees submitting to Byrne." Jessika: Spot on That was made up There was none of that. Mike: I still think the most offensive thing about that movie was that they tried to make me think that someone who looked like Luke Evans was responsible for Wonder Woman's creation. I love Luke Evans I think he's really a fun actor and I was really glad to see him in a real role as opposed to I saw Dracula untold in theaters. I saw I'm Oh man I I didn't see Beauty and The Beast in theaters but I've since seen it. He's one of those actors where I feel like he just needs to be given good roles. He's like Kiana Reeves where I feel like he's often typecast and just thrust into stuff that aren't really any good but he was really good in this. That said: I've seen that man shirtless so many times and I don't know a single comic creator with abs like that. On the flip side, I went into this trying to keep myself as unaware a lot of the history of Marston but I do know what he looked like in his forties and that was like a dude in his seventies. Jessika: Did you watch all at the end of the film they had all the pictures. Yeah And you're just like, "oh. Oh." Like because Byrne and Holloway also not looking like who they cast. Not even a little bit, not even at all. Mike: Okay this is mean. But I'm like yes you look like the type of people who would be in a throuple. Jessika: No. Okay, fair enough And especially here's you know what it reminded me of it reminded me of those pictures that I used to see from that era where the Women especially with those two they looked like the type who would dress up as men and go to the clubs. Mike: Absolutely Jessika: I get that. It's just a vibe I get and maybe it's just my gaydar Like my pansexual gaydar is Mike: going But I mean that's the ongoing lie that Hollywood loves to tell us is that truly sexy people are in throuples all the time. No they're fucking not. I'm bI And I was dating here in the Bay area and I would occasionally get hit on by people looking for a third and they never looked like that. Jessika: And in my experience and opinion if you go at it with the wrong attitude you're not necessarily going to get what you want out of it. And it's not going to be a genuine feeling relationship. Mike: Which I mean like that's relationships in general. Like Yeah I feel like a huge thing of any successful relationship is communications. Stay tuned listeners for our next podcast about relationships and relationship advice And I don't know I don't know where I was going with that. Jessika: Oh I was like we have a new podcast. We're four episodes into this podcast and Mike's like folks we have a new podcast. You know what I like I like your gusto. I like a motivated you Mike: I did have two quibbles about the movie. Getting back on topic. First we earlier mentioned there was no acknowledgement about the problematic nature of how Marston and Byrne's relationship began. Where he was her professor and she was his student. The movie was very fuzzy with time it was very fluid that way. So it wasn't really explained if she was still his student when the relationship began or if she was his research assistant but there was that power imbalance and their dynamic and that was deeply uncomfortable for me because it wasn't addressed. They just kinda hand waved it away. Fine. Whatever. For the movie, fine. Jessika: same way about that. Yeah It just it's gross and to your point there is a power dynamic that I was thinking about. If you are trying to please somebody who has some sort of control over you, whatever that looks like, if it's somebody who has your grades or your future career or your education or even your job... you know this could be at a job setting. If that person has power over you you're less inclined to say "no" to them. And that automatically puts you at a disadvantage. Mike: It was something that I noticed and I was a little frustrated that it wasn't addressed better. The second was that it didn't feel like we actually got enough time with Wonder Woman. The comics and the character felt more like a framing device but a framing device that we didn't really get a lot of payoff on, considering the title of the movie. I thought the scenes where he was actually in the comic office and there was a bit where they're like "Oh well, they're upset about the bondage. And they're like I feel like there's twice as much. And then he just is like I put in three times as much and he keeps walking. And and Oliver Platt was so great and I wanted more of him. For a movie that has Wonder Woman or Wonder Women in the title I just I wanted a little bit more time and acknowledgement. It felt like much more attention was paid just to their relationship with like the first two thirds of the movie. And then he goes with hat in hand to Oliver Platt's character at... was it all-star Comics? Was Jessika: that it? Mike: Yeah. I mix up all the publishers because they've all merged and come together at various. So yeah he It just it it was And especially cause you were like no he got hired to like do this to get them out of hot water now I'm like that makes much more sense. Jessika: Yeah He Mike: Considering the importance that we're led to believe that Wonder Woman will be to his story, I mean she's there. Like they do a number of things where they keep teasing us with Wonder Woman but we never really get that payoff. What about you like Jessika: I did my research on the topic prior to watching the film. So this will be mostly on what the film did or didn't do correctly kind of history with my own opinion of course sprinkled in as you'd expect from So to your point most of the drama seems to have been fabricated There's no indication that any issues with Radcliffe, like trying to boot him for indecency or with the neighbors regarding their relationship, and again even their children didn't know until after Marston's passing about their relationship. And I didn't read anything about them having split up at any point. And again I think that was just added for a forceful Hollywood dramatics play, since we're on the topic of dominance. And there again Marston was already working for Gaines when he created the idea of Wonder Woman and it was in direct relation to the voice of the critics. So he was answering the critics here. So it didn't necessarily seem like as big of a you did this thing and now we're going to make you pay. It was like well okay Right. The sections with Connie Britton -love her by the way, want more in my life just in general- and their back and forth minus all the people drama was actually pretty accurate as far as capturing the concerns of the day and what was being argued in the lobby against Wonder Woman. And then also pretty accurate in what his counterpoints were in relation to the to the comic itself. Mike: Yeah And I thought that was a smart choice to kind of make her the voice of the critics. Jessika: Yeah. That being said his relationship didn't come up at any point in this again because nobody knew about it until after the fact. So it's not like she would have been like what about those things you were indecent. Well, no that that didn't happen. That was all for dramatics. Overall I really liked it. So, again, me as a pansexual: love a good queer film and also being polyamorous or non-monogamous it was so nice seeing that to your point represented so positively, and without judgment. That was so surprising to me I really thought that there was going to be some sort of aspect from the point of view of the viewer to not want them to succeed. But the whole time you really do you're rooting for them. Mike: If you're a fan of history in comic books I think this is a great movie to go check out. My final thought is that reminded me a lot of Kinsey. Did you ever see that? It had Liam Neeson and Laura Linney in it and it's all about Kinsey, the guy created the Kinsey scale of sexuality. Jessika: Oh okay I'll have to check it out Mike: It's great. This kind of reminded me the same way where it's mostly true. It's not quite all there because they have to tszuj it up for the audiences. Jessika: Yeah, yeah. Well, let's move on to our other film that we watched which was Wonder Woman from 2009. And that was the animated origin story of Wonder Woman Do you want to give an overview of the film for us? Mike: Yeah, sure. This is one of the original DC Universe Animated Original Movies which were at the time this came out in 2009 they were still in their infancy. They'd only done three before. This one is loosely based on George Perez's acclaimed 1980s storyline called "Gods and Monsters" and it's written by Gail Simone and Michael Jelenic. Gail Simone has gotten her own amount of acclaim for writing Wonder Woman as well. The film introduces us to the Amazons who win a war against Ares and then they're granted the Island of Themiscyra and immortality in exchange for acting as Ares' jailer by the gods. Diana is later sculpted from clay and given life by the gods. This is kind of in direct opposition to the current mythos of Zeus being her deadbeat dad and then Diana lives on the Island for thousands of years until pretty much the modern day when two key events happen. Steve Trevor crashes on the Island by happenstance and then Ares stages of jailbreak. And Diana has to take Steve back to the United States and he helps her and request to stop the god of war. Jessika: And actually pretty similar to where they tried to go with the original Wonder Woman. So this was absolutely not a cartoon for children. Mike: Nooooo. Jessika: blood spattered backgrounds, fairly graphic death scenes, and three beheadings three beheadings. We're talking the head flying off and falling dramatically at someone's feet kind of beheading. And that being said I didn't particularly mind the violent nature of the animation as a movie for adults as I feel that it was done in a way that felt true to the battle and the struggle of what was happening in the storyline and it didn't feel overly gross in its depictions or its animations like just enough to give the definite impression that violence was occurring. That makes sense Ares is a super violent guy and he affects everyone around him into violence themself so that it did make sense in that way. So things I liked is that it it seemed to me like a fairly good representation of Wonder Woman's origin story as it was originally told by Marston based on what I was reading. Mike: Yeah it it felt like a very classic take on Wonder Woman's origin. And it was very familiar to someone who grew up nominally aware of her origins and reading her mini comics with her action figure and stuff like that. Jessika: One main difference was that the movie was set in seemingly present day America. Since at one point Wonder Woman ends up fighting in a mall, the fighter planes that Steve and company were flying looked modern for 2009. Marston's Wonder Woman was originally set in World War Two of course whereas the 2018 live action film with Gal Gadot was set in World War One. So we've just jumped around. Again DC is definitely not consistent. Mike: It's comic books. And DC's own in- comics timeline has been drastically reworked several times just in our lifetime. Jessika: Yeah. Yeah. And this time period change it definitely affects the vibe and political climate of American society at that time in the cartoon we're not presented with a particular war or a reason for fighting we're evidently just supposed to understand that the world of men is in constant battle every moment. Whereas in the original comic and Wonder Woman film Both took place during large global wars where it wouldn't be a far leap to present the god of war as the cause of those events. Mike: Yeah, absolutely. Jessika: Now things I didn't like cause apparently I veered into not liking and then we're continuing down that road. For someone that wasn't raised in a patriarchal society, Diana's internalized misogyny is staggering. At one point she says to Steve, "you're starting to sound like a woman" when he's discussing having feelings for her and later says to Ares, "how can you expect to beat Zeus If you can't even beat a girl." The fuck that? Mike: Which kind of goes against everything else that she does in the movie. Jessika: Yeah it directly against it. Yeah, so that was irritating. And then not only that, the president, because apparently they're in Washington DC, the president is told that they were saved by a group of armored supermodels. Which I had to rewind it and write that line down grossed. Out It's such a condescending and reductive statement to make about individuals that just saved your lives while you apparently slept through the whole situation, Mr President. And it drives home the point that even in heroism, women's worth is still viewed only in her attractiveness. Mike: Yeah there was a lot of that. Jessika: Yeah. Yeah. They also have Diana do quite a bit of killing with absolutely no thought whatsoever which is not in the original character at all. That doesn't feel very Diana. Mike: I mean, no. But at the same time I don't particularly have a problem with it but yeah Jessika: Yeah. So that was me. What about you? Were you at with that? Mike: I think I had a slightly more positive take on the movie. I mean it sounds like you still enjoyed it, right? Jessika: Oh, I liked it. I still liked it. Yeah. Mike: Part of it is just I viewed it at the time when it first came out and this was one of the first animated original movies. And it was the first one that I remember enjoying. So I think that it's definitely tinted my perspective a little bit. Jessika: You had a nostalgia factor that I didn't I hadn't seen it prior. Mike: I remember seeing the reviews for it and I was like, "Oh this looks really cool. The others that were released before that they were all, well two of the three were just straight adaptations of other you know quote unquote iconic stories So there is Superman: Doomsday which was the death and life of Superman and I did not give a shit about that movie. It was really I felt flat. Then there was Justice League: The New Frontier which is based on a really acclaimed mini series. And then there was Batman Gotham Knight which was -if I remember right- it was several different animated shorts and different animated styles. And none of them really did it for me. But the DC Animated Universe, which was helmed by Bruce Timm, so that's like the original Batman animated series from the nineties as well as the Superman series and then Justice League and then Batman Beyond or vice versa and then Justice League Unlimited, those were all incredible. And I knew that eventually we would get to the same point with the animated movies and Wonder Woman felt like that home run that I knew they'd eventually hit. So I really enjoyed the film overall and even watching it yesterday afternoon I had a blast, you know, even a decade later. I think its strongest element is that the movie clearly has zero fucks to give. That battle between the Amazons and Ares is incredibly violent and it's obvious from the first 30 seconds in that this is going to be a RIDE. And it doesn't shy away from some really tough narrative elements like where Hippolyta actually in that battle It's revealed that she kills Thrax, the son of Ares. Thrax is her child who is very heavily implied the product of rape by Jessika: Ares. Mike: Also the vocal cast is just incredible. This was 2009 Keri Russell, Nathan Fillion, Virginia Madsen, Rosario Dawson, Alfred Molina, and then Oliver Platt. They were really well-regarded actors at the time and they're still pretty big and side note Oliver Platt was in both of the movies that we watched for this Jessika: episode. I literally thought of that when you said that. Mike: he fucking steals every scene he's in. He was just this delightful villainous Hades and he's kinda gross but he's also just wonderfully sinister. I really dug that and I also really dug how it felt like a pretty faithful adaptation of the origin while still feeling fresh and fast. Like this movie is not long. That kind of leads into something that I didn't like was that It's a very short movie. It's barely over an hour long. I feel like we needed a director's cut or something because of the lines could have been fleshed out a little bit more like this is something Look Jessika: who wants director's cut now. Mike: Release the Simone cut or something, I don't know. I feel like there were a couple of sub plot lines that were kind of just glossed over. Like I mentioned Thrax is actually Diana's half-brother. I feel like maybe there might've been something more there. Maybe there wasn't, who knows. But it just it felt like something that I would have liked a little more room to breathe. And that's said, it was pretty solid. That said there were some problematic elements. Like Steve was so gross and so cringy Jessika: He kept calling her Angel and I just wanted to punch him in the jaw. Mike: Which, I mean, so that's like a thing from the comics and his other earlier incarnations but this time around it just felt gross. It felt like "babe" and you know blech. Jessika: Yeah. Yeah. He just he rolled in and was like "Oh naked ladies I'm in right place for me." Mike: And the problem is that Nathan Fillion was just too good at making him a sleazebag. Jessika: Which, love Nathan Fillion. Mike: I do too. Like, okay dude, we get it. He's kind of a gross misogynist. We don't need him to hit on Diana for the fifth time in as many minutes. Etta Candy viewing Diana as competition was also dumb. Candy's always been one of her best friends and I still think that her incarnation in the original movie was pitch perfect. And then her being this skinny little supermodel who's trying to flirt with Steve was dumb. You mentioned the other problematic misogynistic elements that I noted. the only other thing, and this wasn't an actual problem, was that I didn't realize how much better Wonder woman's costume is these days rather than the super swimsuit that we had for so long. It's funny because growing up with it, I never thought about it. And then really only in the last five years or so we've gotten a much more a
As we wrap up our discussion of Wonder Woman, Mark and Nathan discuss the scrolling credits, and the short film featuring Etta Candy and the Wonder Men.
As we wrap up our discussion of Wonder Woman, Mark and Nathan discuss the scrolling credits, and the short film featuring Etta Candy and the Wonder Men. A Too Old Media Podcast
This Week on Earth Station DCU! Drew Leiter and Cletus Jacobs discuss the last stories of the DC Universe. It's a Titans reunion in Dark Nights: Death Metal The Last Stories of the DC Universe #1. Hush declares it's harvesting time in Detective Comics #1032. Diana and Etta Candy must track down Maxwell Lord's attempted killer. The Flash visits Black Adam's palace in The Flash #767. The Frost King's origin is revealed in Superman: Endless Winter Special #1. All this plus, DC News, Cletus's pick of the week, and much, much more! ------------------------ Table of Contents 0:00:00 Show Open 0:01:40 DC News 0:25:35 Batman Black & White #1 0:30:42 Dark Nights: Death Metal The Last Stories of the DC Universe #1 0:42:47 Detective Comics #1032 0:45:20 Wonder Woman #768 0:50:18 The Flash #767 0:56:13 Superman: Endless Winter Special #1 1:02:12 Show Close Links Batman Black & White #1 Dark Nights: Death Metal The Last Stories of the DC Universe #1 Detective Comics #1032 Wonder Woman #768 The Flash #767 Superman: Endless Winter Special #1 Earth Station One Tales of the Station Earth Station One Tales of the Station Vol. 2 The Chameleon Chronicles: Colors of Fate The Chameleon Chronicles: Sisters of the Thorn Want to Donate to the Show or Sponsor our Comics Talk for this week? No problem! Just click on the donate button below! If you would like to leave feedback, comment on the show, or would like us to give you a shout out, please call the ESDCU feedback line at (317) 564-9133 (remember long distance charges may apply) or feel free to email us @ earthstationdcu@gmail.com
This Week on Earth Station DCU! Drew Leiter and Cletus Jacobs discuss the last stories of the DC Universe. It’s a Titans reunion in Dark Nights: Death Metal The Last Stories of the DC Universe #1. Hush declares it’s harvesting time in Detective Comics #1032. Diana and Etta Candy must track down Maxwell Lord’s attempted … The Earth Station DCU Episode 218 – The Last Stories of the DC Universe Read More » The post The Earth Station DCU Episode 218 – The Last Stories of the DC Universe appeared first on The ESO Network.
Welcome to the place where I get to let my geek flag fly and talk about all things geek. Basically a fuzzy guide to life, the universe, and everything but mostly geek stuff. This is where I look into the world of geekdom and some geek news, comics, The Simpsons, Star Wars, and whatever randomness finds its way onto the recording. Recently (i.e. Level 197/202/209), Danny the Deuce and Blue joined me to discuss representation and diversity in superheroes. Adding to our discussions of 60 heroes representing diversity in comics, we're back with 16 more (17 if you count robot). It has been so much fun to discuss comics as an important medium of representation and cover diverse heroes that matter so much, especially in today’s divided world. This edition of the diversiverse goodness includes the following heroes: Daniel Sylva (Devil Slayer), Dr. Cecilia Reyes, Etta Candy, Snake Eyes, Jackson Hyde (Aqualad), Northstar, Karma, Typhoid Mary, Black Lightning, Starscream???, Black Vulcan, Bronze Tiger, Vixen, Gabriel Vargas (Captain Universe), Alex Wilder (Runaways), Rage, Rictor, and more! Enter the Diversiverse with us and we hope you enjoy this as much as we did talking about it. Congrats on completing Level 211 of the podcast! Stay safe, wash your hands, wear a mask, and good luck out there. Feel free to contact me on Twitter and/or Instagram (@wookieeriot). You can also reach the show by e-mail, laughitupfuzzballpodcast@gmail.com., or by joining the Facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/1879505335626093). I'd love to hear from you. Also subscribe to the feed on Apple podcasts, Google podcasts, Stitcher, Breaker, IHeartRadio, RadioPublic, Spotify, or any of the apps which pull from those sources. Go do your thing so I can keep doing mine. If you feel so inclined, drop a positive rating or comment on those apps. Ratings help others find the madness. Tell your friends, geekery is always better with peers. Thank YOU for being a part of this hilarity! There’s a plethora of ways to comment about the show and I look forward to seeing your thoughts, comments, and ideas. May the force be with us all, thanks for stopping by, you stay classy, be excellent to each other and party on dudes… TTFN… Wookiee out! --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/laugh-it-up-fuzzball/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/laugh-it-up-fuzzball/support
This Week on Earth Station DCU! Drew Leiter and Cletus Jacobs talk comics! (Wait a minute...don't we do that every week?). The Joker war continues in Batman #98 and it's a major turning point for Bruce as he continues to talk to a deceased Alfred. Kill Croc wants his own Monster Town in the fallout from the Joker War in Detective Comics #1026. After her incident with the Joker, Barbara calls on Luke Fox to help with re-inserting her implant in Batgirl #48. When the Joker send Punchline after the Red Hood, Jason must battle against Dickey-Boy in Red Hood Outlaw #48. The Superman Family must work together to hunt down the Invisible Mafia in Action Comics #1024. Batman must battle wits against the lies of the Black Mercy in Justice League #52. Zantanna confronts the Upside Down Man in Justice League Dark #25. Diana is not happy to learn that Maxwell Lord is working with Etta Candy to solve the mystery of the hallucinations in Wonder Woman #761. Crave the leader of the Rimbor asks for the Legion to surrender in Legion of Super-Heroes #8. Drake and Spoiler go after Cluemaster in Young Justice #18. When Superboy Prime attacks Billy must team-up with an unlikely ally to defeat him in Shazam #14. The Terrifics must return to Earth to stop Stagatron from turning Gateway City into a bunch of Parasite monsters in The Terrifics #30. Things get more complicated for Adam Strange when Batman discovers a Pykkt robot in Gotham City in Strange Adventures #5. All this plus, DC News, Cletus's pick of the week, and much, much more! ------------------------ Table of Contents 0:00:00 Show Open 0:01:51 DC News 0:08:13 Batman #98 0:14:43 Detective Comics #1026 0:18:49 Batgirl #48 0:24:22 Red Hood Outlaw #38 0:32:00 Action Comics #1024 0:39:48 Justice League #52 0:44:07 Justice League Dark #25 0:48:56 Wonder Woman #761 0:55:10 Legion of Super-Heroes #8 1:01:01 Young Justice #18 1:09:18 Shazam #14 1:15:36 The Terrifics #30 1:19:23 Strange Adventures #5 1:29:45 Show Close Links Batman #98 Detective Comics #1026 Batgirl #48 Red Hood Outlaw #48 Action Comics #1024 Justice League #52 Justice League Dark #25 Wonder Woman #761 Legion of Super-Heroes #8 Young Justice #18 Shazam #14 The Terrifics #30 Strange Adventures #5 Earth Station One Tales of the Station Earth Station One Tales of the Station Vol. 2 The Chameleon Chronicles: Colors of Fate The Chameleon Chronicles: Sisters of the Thorn Want to Donate to the Show or Sponsor our Comics Talk for this week? No problem! Just click on the donate button below! If you would like to leave feedback, comment on the show, or would like us to give you a shout out, please call the ESDCU feedback line at (317) 564-9133 (remember long distance charges may apply) or feel free to email us @ earthstationdcu@gmail.com
Etta Candy is successful in finding an outfit for Diana just as Steve Trevor returns. Diana and Steve then make their way back onto the street, where they unknowingly walk into an ambush. Guest Commentator: Jonfen Parker
Etta Candy is successful in finding an outfit for Diana just as Steve Trevor returns. Diana and Steve then make their way back onto the street, where they unknowingly walk into an ambush. Guest Commentator: Jonfen Parker A Too Old Media Podcast
Just as Dr. Maru and General Ludendorff discuss their new gaseous weapon, she decided to give Gen. Ludendorff a sample. Later, Diana and Steve Trevor make their way into London, and meet up with Etta Candy. Guest Commentator: Naomi Wong
Just as Dr. Maru and General Ludendorff discuss their new gaseous weapon, she decided to give Gen. Ludendorff a sample. Later, Diana and Steve Trevor make their way into London, and meet up with Etta Candy. Guest Commentator: Naomi Wong A Too Old Media Podcast
Welcome back to the fifth episode of Troubling Issues - a podcast where we do deep dives on noteworthy comic books. Some good, some bad, some insane, but they are all interesting.In this wonderful episode we take a look at Wonder Woman issue 3 from February 1943 wherein we learn Wonder Woman is all about 2 things…Zane C. Weber: https://www.facebook.com/zanecweberappreciation/That's Not Canon: https://thatsnotcanon.comLifestory: http://www.edgeimprov.com/edge/Home/Entries/2014/8/24_Lifestory_at_the_Brisbane_Fringe_Festival.htmlX-men: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_X-Men#1975–1991:_Chris_Claremont_eraWonder Woman issue 3: https://www.comixology.com/Wonder-Woman-1942-1986-3/digital-comic/10239?ref=c2VhcmNoL2RldGFpbC9kZXNrdG9wL2dyaWRMaXN0L2l0ZW1zU2VhcmNoRGV0YWlsTGlzdABaroness Paula Von Gunther: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_von_GuntherHG Peters: https://www.lambiek.net/artists/p/peter-hg.htmWilliam Moulton Marlston: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/origin-story-wonder-woman-180952710/Etta Candy: https://wonder-woman.fandom.com/wiki/Etta_CandyQuestion:TV Wonder Woman Costumes: https://www.metv.com/lists/every-lynda-carter-wonder-woman-costume-ranked-in-order-of-wondrousnessBatman Vs Superman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_v_Superman:_Dawn_of_JusticeWonder Woman Movie: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0451279/Recommendations:Invincible: https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/invinciblePromethea: https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2018/10/30/promethea-between-two-worldsPlugs:An Assemblage of Grandiose and Bombastic Grandiloquents (podcast): https://thatsnotcanon.com/grandiloquentspodcastTroubling issues facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/TroublingIssuesOpening theme: Cocktail Sipping Jazz by Donville DavisClosing theme: Touch the Fire by Wanger! - https://wanger.bandcamp.comFor feedback and questions contact podcast@edgecomix.comSubscribe to us on ITUNES,
This week on the Champion Challenge our panel will answer the question, which friend of Wonder Woman is the best? Our contestants are Wonder Girl, Mala, Jason, and Etta Candy. Our current panelists are DC Dark, Deep Cuts, Digital Enigma, and Mister KAM. The Champion Challenge was produced by People Like Us Studios LLC (PLUS LLC) and our panelists can be contacted at champion.challenge.mailbox@gmail.com Or you can tweet to us on our Twitter page, @WNYChampions Please consider subscribing to us through our Patreon page, Champion Challenge. Our artwork was created by SixShotStudios. Our theme tune was composed and performed by Derrick Streibig. Our favorite charity is the Superhero Alliance of Western New York. You can find them on Facebook at Superhero Alliance-SAWNY, on Twitter at superheroWNY, on Instagram at SuperheroAllianceWNY, or on their website, www.sawny.org. Superhero Storytime, a video project by the Superhero Alliance, features costume characters reading stories intended to be view by parents with their children at https://tinyurl.com/superhero-storytime If you want to send a loved one a Hero-gram, use this link: https://forms.gle/j7nD6JbS19x5iW2S9 For appearance requests, use this link: http://goo.gl/forms/iQmt8FI3Zo
Wonder Woman returns to Paradise Island to recover from her wounds following the battle with Ares. Meanwhile, Julia contemplates Wonder Woman's need for a publicist, while the mysterious Barbara Minerva expresses her desire for the golden lasso. Do you have a story arc you'd like us to cover? Send us your ideas. Twitter: @comicrundown Instagram: @comicbookrundown Email: comicbookrundown@gmail.com Hosted by Joe Janero, Ron Hanes and Brittni McFarland Edited by Joe Janero Theme song provided by one of the Sex Turtles (Joe Cubas) Find our t-shirt at https://www.redbubble.com/shop/comic+book+rundown?ref=search_box
As Steve tries to halt the missles poised to start a global war, Diana has a knock-down, dra-out fight with Ares for the fate of gods and humans alike -- but can the Amazonian warrior defeat the very God of War? Do you have a story arc you'd like us to cover? Send us your ideas. Twitter: @comicrundown Instagram: @comicbookrundown Email: comicbookrundown@gmail.com Hosted by Joe Janero, Ron Hanes and Brittni McFarland Edited by Joe Janero Theme song provided by one of the Sex Turtles (Joe Cubas) Find our t-shirt at https://www.redbubble.com/shop/comic+book+rundown?ref=search_box
Earth's military powers prepare for war as Ares' plan is put into motion. Meanwhile, Diana enters Deimos' realm in search of the other half of Mad Harmonia's amulet... the means of stopping the God of War. Do you have a story arc you'd like us to cover? Send us your ideas. Twitter: @comicrundown Instagram: @comicbookrundown Email: comicbookrundown@gmail.com Hosted by Joe Janero, Ron Hanes and Brittni McFarland Edited by Joe Janero Theme song provided by one of the Sex Turtles (Joe Cubas) Find our t-shirt at https://www.redbubble.com/shop/comic+book+rundown?ref=search_box
Medusa's daughter, Decay, rampages across Boston bringing death to everything in her path. Wonder Woman must confront the monster before she destroys the city, but her battle might just make her front page news! Do you have a story arc you'd like us to cover? Send us your ideas. Twitter: @comicrundown Instagram: @comicbookrundown Email: comicbookrundown@gmail.com Hosted by Joe Janero, Ron Hanes and Brittni McFarland Edited by Joe Janero Theme song provided by one of the Sex Turtles (Joe Cubas) Find our t-shirt at https://www.redbubble.com/shop/comic+book+rundown?ref=search_box
Diana meets Julia Kapatelis, her guide on man's world. Ares' kids, Phobos and Deimos, plot to help their father rule mankind. Steve seeks the help of Etta to track down his mysterious angel. Do you have a story arc you'd like us to cover? Send us your ideas. Twitter: @comicrundown Instagram: @comicbookrundown Email: comicbookrundown@gmail.com Hosted by Joe Janero, Ron Hanes and Brittni McFarland Edited by Joe Janero Theme song provided by one of the Sex Turtles (Joe Cubas) Find our t-shirt at https://www.redbubble.com/shop/comic+book+rundown?ref=search_box
As Ares plots destruction using Steve Trevor as his pawn, Diana receives the Lasso of Truth to combat the war-mongering deity. Do you have a story arc you'd like us to cover? Send us your ideas. Twitter: @comicrundown Instagram: @comicbookrundown Email: comicbookrundown@gmail.com Hosted by Joe Janero, Ron Hanes and Brittni McFarland Edited by Joe Janero Theme song provided by one of the Sex Turtles (Joe Cubas) Find our t-shirt at https://www.redbubble.com/shop/comic+book+rundown?ref=search_box
Sensation Comics #3 (1942)Don’t get fooled — we don’t own this actual comic. If we did, we’d have Dune Action Figure MOC money.This early yet epic installment of Wonder Woman’s history sees using her Amazonian brain to dominate the clerical industry only to get mistaken as a Nazi spy. Thankfully, WW clears her name by having Etta Candy kidnap and torture the real lady spy while Diana murders a bunch of Nazis with a ship anchor.Email the podcast at worstcollectionever@gmail.comContinue the conversation with Shawn and Jen on Twitter @angryheroshawn and @JenStansfield
Color returns Connections to history No closure for Etta Candy Gal Gadot's acting and Diana's emotions Photograph foreshadowing Diana's motif - looking up toward the sky Diana walking away from mankind amidst the crowd Father and child Wonder Woman is not famous (or at least isn't known to be Diana) Follow @JLUpodcast on Twitter Submit your favorite part of Wonder Woman to JLUpodcast@gmail.com Giveaways and Bonus Content https://www.patreon.com/JLUpodcast Contributors: @ottensam @derbykid @raveryn @wondersyd Episode artwork by Matthew Rushing (@mattrushing02)
Quick note about the "men who can" Entering the London pub Sameer Charlie Driven by money Sir Patrick and Etta Candy are here to help 100th Episode! Transcript: http://comicandscreen.blogspot.com/2018/04/jlu-scene-by-scene-wonder-woman-scene-25.html Follow @JLUPodcast on Twitter Contributors: @ottensam @raveryn @derbykid @wondersyd Episode artwork by Matthew Rushing (@mattrushing02)
Happy New Year! We could think of no better way to ring in 2018 than to watch one of the best things about 2017 -- Wonder Woman. And we could think of no better person to discuss it with at incredible length* than our podcast sweetheart, #1 fan, and male counterpart (and previous guest) Ryan Lynch. And we could think of no better "Matt" to consult than Ryan's own (non-Matt) very best half, Ariel Azzara. Check out all of Ryan's podcasts -- We'll Get it Right Next Year: An Adventure in Cinema (for which Helen is the Etta Candy) and Comrade sister-casts Divisive Issues and Oops, I Talked Politics, both also available at frondsradio.com -- and hit up Ariel on the internet to find out where you can send her tons of money for her upcoming wedding. *like really incredible length
In this issue we talk all about super friends! Every hero has a best friend - super or otherwise - and this is your chance to learn about them and their friendship! But first we break down the latest in DC news. the impending live action Teen Titans sees it's first images of Robin, Margot Robbie confirms he reprising Harley Quinn next year, the big bad behind the scenes at Flash finally gets taken down, all this and more! SHOW NOTES (courtesy of Josh Gill) News & Notes Titan's Robin Promo https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/comic-riffs/wp/2017/12/05/after-titans-reveals-its-robin-fans-wonder-which-boy-wonder-are-we-getting/?utm_term=.f11dbf43d228 Batman Forever and Batman & Robin http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Batman_Forever_(Movie) http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Batman_and_Robin_(Movie) http://showcase.dc.wikia.com/wiki/Richard_Grayson_(Burtonverse) Arkham Games http://showcase.dc.wikia.com/wiki/Timothy_Drake_(Arkhamverse) Batman Ninja Trailer & Poster http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/53760/batman-ninja-first-trailers Deathnote https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Note http://deathnote.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Miyazaki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayao_Miyazaki Cowboy Bebop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy_Bebop http://cowboybebop.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Cyborg Cancelled https://www.newsarama.com/37489-cyborg-cancellation-confirmed.html 90’s Starman http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Theodore_Knight_(New_Earth) Earth One GN’s http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Earth-1 Tom Green Show https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tom_Green_Show Booster Gold is back http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/11/18/dan-jurgens-talks-reuniting-superman-with-booster-gold-in-action/ http://www.dccomics.com/comics/action-comics-2016/action-comics-993 Action Comics http://www.dccomics.com/comics?type=comic&seriesid=394486#browse Mr. Oz http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Jor-El_(Prime_Earth) Legends of Tomorrow http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/DC%27s_Legends_of_Tomorrow Helen of Troy http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/Helen_of_Troy Themyscira http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/Themyscira http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Paradise_Island Margot Robbie Confirms Harley Quinn reprisal http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/margot-robbie-harley-quinn-movie-suicide-squad-2-gotham-city-sirens-a8090251.html Kreisburg officially fired http://deadline.com/2017/11/flash-supergirl-ep-andrew-kreisberg-fired-sexual-harassment-allegations-1202216549/ DC launches new covers Ditching the Rebirth logo https://www.cbr.com/dc-comics-new-cover-design/ Patty Jenkins makes Time’s POTY list http://time.com/time-person-of-the-year-2017-patty-jenkins-runner-up/ Doomsday Clock #1 arrives http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2017/10/13/doomsday-clock Crisis on Earth-X http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/Crisis_on_Earth-X 12 episodes of Docmas Super BFF’s Which powered/non-powered relationships would be better if the roles were reversed? Batman/Superman Vol 1 #53 http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Superman/Batman_Vol_1_53 Jimmy Olsen gets powers and becomes Mister Action http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Mister_Action http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/James_Olsen_(New_Earth) Alfred gets powers, The Murder Machine http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Bruce_Wayne_(Earth_-44) http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Batman:_The_Murder_Machine_Vol_1_1 http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Alfred_Protocol_(Earth_-44) Etta Candy gets powers http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Etta_Candy Lois Lane, All-Star Superman http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/All-Star_Superman Superman Reborn New 52 Lois Lane Superwoman http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Lois_Lane_(Prime_Earth) Can superpets work in modern comics? Krypto the Superdog http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Krypto_(Krypto_the_Superdog) Batcow http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Bat-Cow_(Prime_Earth) Streaky the Supercat http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Streaky_(Earth-One) http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Streaky_(Prime_Earth) Which two heroes have never been good friends? Green Arrow & Superman https://moviepilot.com/posts/3954676 Green Arrow & Hawkman https://www.cbr.com/green-arrow-hawkman-rivalry-began/ Who is the most useless friend a hero has? Diggle http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/John_Diggle http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/John_Diggle_(Arrow) http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/John_Diggle_(Prime_Earth) Lois Lane http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Lois_Lane CSI’s from the Flash http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Central_City_Police_Department Top 3 favorite friendships? Blue & Gold http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Booster_Gold:_Blue_and_Gold_(Collected) http://bluebeetleandboostergold.wikia.com/wiki/Blue_Beetle_and_Booster_Gold_Wiki Poison Ivy & Harley Quinn http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2017/09/21/harley-quinn-and-poison-ivy-the-greatest-partnership Hal Jordan & Barry Allen http://nerdswole.com/2014/09/17/the-5-best-bromances-of-the-dc-universe/ Harrison Wells & Barry Allen http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/Harrison_Wells http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/Barry_Allen Harrison Wells & Cisco Ramon http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/Cisco_Ramon Favorite Villain Friendship Batman & Two Face https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_vs._Two-Face http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/All-Star_Batman:_My_Own_Worst_Enemy_(Collected) Oliver & Slade http://arrow.wikia.com/wiki/Slade_Wilson Flash & The Rogues http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Rogues http://theflash.wikia.com/wiki/The_Rogues http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/The_Flash:_Gorilla_Warfare Robin Friends Wally West (New 52) http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Wallace_R._West_(Prime_Earth) Raven http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Raven_(Prime_Earth) Goliath http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Goliath_(Prime_Earth)
She shot to fame playing Dawn Tinsley, the receptionist in the British version of ‘The Office’. But after switching Slough for the States, Lucy Davis is now rubbing shoulders with superstars AND superheroes in Hollywood. You’ll have seen her in a host of films and TV shows but perhaps the most exciting to date is this year’s blockbuster in which she stars along side Gal Gadot in Wonder Woman playing Wonder Woman’s best friend Etta Candy. Having grown up amongst show biz gods - her father being British comedy mega star Jasper Carrott, Lucy is no stranger to fame. But life hasn’t been all plain sailing for our guest. She was diagnosed with kidney failure which resulted in her own mother donating her a kidney and she’s had a very public battle with anorexia and bulimia. In this show, Lucy chats to Caroline Feraday and Claire Bullivant about finally being 'at peace' with her body, gaining great comfort from the practice of Reconnective Healing and how her Grandmother is keeping an eye on her from the other side. She’s mega talented, really funny, spiritual, kind, inspirational and a survivor – oh and our new best friend (we’re hoping) – don’t miss this most candid and fun episode with the wonderful Lucy Davis… Lucy Davis: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0205063/ https://www.instagram.com/officiallucydavis/ https://twitter.com/RealLucyDavis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Davis Find out more about The Reconnection here: http://www.thereconnection.com Our Sponsor - Next Stop LAX: http://www.nextstoplax.com http://www.facebook.com/NextStopLAX http://www.instagram.com/NextStopLAX http://www.twitter.com/NextStopLAX Brits in the Wood: http://www.britsinthewood.com/listen http://www.britsinthewood.blog http://www.facebook.com/BritsintheWood http://www.instagram.com/britsinthewood http://www.twitter.com/britsinthewood
SPOILERS/NSFW - DC on SCREEN #424 - On this news episode Dave and Jason discuss:Donate to Victims of Hurricane HarveyWonder Woman Still Kicking Ass |Etta’s Mission Epilogue |The Old Black and Silver |New Photo of Justice League |Joss is Getting a Writing Credit |Willem Dafoe Talks James Wan on Aquaman |Aquaman To Be Star Wars Under Water |Shazam Pre-Production Has Started! |Flashpoint to Change Shazam? |Robert Zemeckis Involved in ‘Flashpoint’? |New Rumored to Be Coming In To Justice League Dark |New Details Emerge About Joker: Origins |Leonardo Dicaprio Going to be The Joker? |Suicide Squad 2 Apparently Delayed |Professor Marston and the Wonder Women |Jay Baruchel Talks Justice League Mortal |Gotham Casts Professor Pyg |Premiere Date Announced |Want to See 90’s Flash on CW? |CW Joins Hulu Live TV Service |All 4 CW Shows Get Super Trailer |Lena & Kara Adventures |Tom Welling Not Looking to Suit Up Again |Premiere Date Announced |Harrison Wells’ Story in Season 4 |Season 3 Feels New On Set |Courtney Ford cast as Eleanor Darhk |Vixen Tanks Network Movie Premiere |Michael Emerson Character Hints |Teen Titans Casting |Teen Titans Gets Its Nightwing, Brenton Thwaites |Why Conroy Returned for Batman & Harley Quinn |Black Manta Game Play Trailer |Raiden Art Not Working |
SPOILERS/NSFW - DC on SCREEN #424 - On this news episode Dave and Jason discuss:Donate to Victims of Hurricane HarveyWonder Woman Still Kicking Ass |Etta’s Mission Epilogue |The Old Black and Silver |New Photo of Justice League |Joss is Getting a Writing Credit |Willem Dafoe Talks James Wan on Aquaman |Aquaman To Be Star Wars Under Water |Shazam Pre-Production Has Started! |Flashpoint to Change Shazam? |Robert Zemeckis Involved in ‘Flashpoint’? |New Rumored to Be Coming In To Justice League Dark |New Details Emerge About Joker: Origins |Leonardo Dicaprio Going to be The Joker? |Suicide Squad 2 Apparently Delayed |Professor Marston and the Wonder Women |Jay Baruchel Talks Justice League Mortal |Gotham Casts Professor Pyg |Premiere Date Announced |Want to See 90’s Flash on CW? |CW Joins Hulu Live TV Service |All 4 CW Shows Get Super Trailer |Lena & Kara Adventures |Tom Welling Not Looking to Suit Up Again |Premiere Date Announced |Harrison Wells’ Story in Season 4 |Season 3 Feels New On Set |Courtney Ford cast as Eleanor Darhk |Vixen Tanks Network Movie Premiere |Michael Emerson Character Hints |Teen Titans Casting |Teen Titans Gets Its Nightwing, Brenton Thwaites |Why Conroy Returned for Batman & Harley Quinn |Black Manta Game Play Trailer |Raiden Art Not Working |
No Wonder Woman character has changed quite as drastically over the years as Etta Candy. At one point, Etta Candy, Wonder Woman’s best friend, was arguably the best character in the entire comic. Even better than Diana. Later, as the decades passed, Etta became a shadow of what she once was, an unconfident woman who couldn’t measure up to Wonder Woman. In appreciation of the oft-forgotten character, Episode 12 of the Comics 401 podcast is an “Ode To Etta Candy!”
SPOILERS/NSFW - DC on SCREEN #420 - This episode David C. Roberson and Jason Goss discuss:Ben Affleck Talks Justice League’s Two Directors |Flying Fox Concept Art Revealed |Joe Morton on Justice League’s Tone |No Cliffhanger Ending!? |Wonder Woman Beats Frozen |Digital/Blu Ray Wonder Woman Release Date |Wonder Woman Epilogue: Etta’s Mission |James Wan’s Underwater Difficulties |Dolph Lundgren Playing King Nereus |Why Doug Liman Left Justice League Dark |Batman vs Two-Face trailer |Barbara Training with Ra’s |How Reborn is Like Rebirth |The Flash officially Casts Hazard |Richard Dragon |Will The Huntress Return to Arrow? |Can Malcolm Merlyn Return? |Where to Find Us: Hit us up on Twitter @DConSCREEN Connect with us on Facebook @DConSCREEN E-Mail us at DConSCREEN@gmail.com Catch up with David on Twitter @davidcroberson (205) 259-6331
SPOILERS/NSFW - DC on SCREEN #420 - This episode David C. Roberson and Jason Goss discuss:Ben Affleck Talks Justice League’s Two Directors |Flying Fox Concept Art Revealed |Joe Morton on Justice League’s Tone |No Cliffhanger Ending!? |Wonder Woman Beats Frozen |Digital/Blu Ray Wonder Woman Release Date |Wonder Woman Epilogue: Etta’s Mission |James Wan’s Underwater Difficulties |Dolph Lundgren Playing King Nereus |Why Doug Liman Left Justice League Dark |Batman vs Two-Face trailer |Barbara Training with Ra’s |How Reborn is Like Rebirth |The Flash officially Casts Hazard |Richard Dragon |Will The Huntress Return to Arrow? |Can Malcolm Merlyn Return? |Where to Find Us: Hit us up on Twitter @DConSCREEN Connect with us on Facebook @DConSCREEN E-Mail us at DConSCREEN@gmail.com Catch up with David on Twitter @davidcroberson (205) 259-6331
UP FRONT: Out Power 50. Don Lemon. CELEBRITY SHADE: Kesha Rainbow. Aaron Carter is bi. Chris Pratt is single. Pink's new single. Boozy gives son a bday prozzie. Mother trailer. Bachelor in Paradise last minute edits. NERD NEWS: Barb had anxiety. Justice League "unwatchable." Wonder Woman DVD Sept.19. Etta Candy will have special added scene. HATE/LOVE? RR: Racist porn star Antonio Biaggi. W: Racists / Amazon Prime.
In this episode, Tim and Scott talk about: Wonder Woman has earned over $400M domestically! We have the Wonder Woman Blu-ray special feature details! Etta Candy will get an Epilogue to Wonder Woman on the Blu-ray! Lucy Davis has teased that she is memorizing more Etta Candy lines! Zack Snyder sends love to a Justice League actor! Actor Joe Morton gives some details about the added Cyborg scenes to Justice League! Ben Affleck talks about working with two directors! We help debunk the latest clickbait about the changed Justice League ending! James Wan talks about the challenges of filming Aquaman! Director David Sandberg has fun trolling about Shazam! Director Chris McKay talks about why Nightwing wasn't listed as part of the DC Films movie slate at Comic Con! Doug Liman talks about why he had to step away from Justice League Dark! Batman vs. Two-Face gets a premier date and a trailer! All of this and much more! Where to find us: Follow The Suicide Squadcast on Twitter at @SuicideSquadcst Follow Tim on Twitter at @Allenfire Follow Scott on Twitter at @ScottDC27 Email us at SuicideSquadcast@gmail.com Subscribe to The Suicide Squadcast Network: The Suicide Squadcast: iTunes / Google Play / Stitcher / RSS DCTV Squadcast: iTunes / Google Pl!y / Stitcher / RSS DC Comics Squadcast: iTunes / Google Play / Stitcher / RSS Fans Without Borders: iTunes / Google Play / Stitcher / RSS The show's intro music was composed by Tim Yoko. The show's outro music was composed by Jordan Funk. We are a proud member of the Batman Podcast Network! Please go check out the other great shows that can be found there!
Our gushing review of the new Wonder Woman movie and the friendships it celebrates. Steve Trevor and consent, Etta Candy and female friendship, Ben Affleck barely appearing -- this movie rocked our ass. Diana will fight for those who cannot fight for themselves and WE WILL, TOO. This one's light-hearted, dorky, and full of fandom love. Enjoy.
The editors at Cosmopolitan.com are jumping for joy over the new badass superhero flick, "Wonder Woman", so Elisa brought Senior Entertainment Editor, Eliza Thompson, into studio to recap the film. Guests include Lucy Davis, the actress who played "Etta Candy"; Jenny Pacey, the actress who played an Amazonian and is also a former Olympian; and "Wonder Woman" superfan Kennedy.
Wonder Woman. The character of Wonder Woman has existed in the culture zeitgeist for over 75 years and yet it is only now, in 2017, that she has been brought to the big screen in her first solo movie. In this episode of The 602 Club host Matthew Rushing is joined by Bethany Blanton and Richard Marquez to talk about DC Comics' latest film Wonder Woman. We discuss our expectations, the heart of the movie, the characters, the villains, the God of War, listening, a time to fight and a time for love, responsibility, the movie and our ratings. Chapters Review Contest Winner (00:03:06) Expectations (00:04:51) The Heart of the Movie (00:11:32) Etta Candy (00:26:08) The Amazons (00:29:08) Trevor's Three Friends (00:34:54) The Villains (00:41:47) The God of War (00:47:39) Listening (00:55:31) A Time to Fight, A Time to Love (00:59:05) Responsibility (01:01:15) The Movie (01:08:10) Ratings (01:17:51) Host Matthew Rushing Guests Bethany Blanton Richard Marquez Production Matthew Rushing (Editor and Producer) C Bryan Jones (Executive Producer) Ken Tripp (Executive Producer) Matthew Rushing (Executive Producer) Richard Marquez (Production Manager) Brandon-Shea Mutala (Patreon Manager) Ken Tripp (Associate Producer) Davis Grayson (Associate Producer)
WELCOME TO TALES OF THE JUSTICE SOCIETY OF AMERICA'S 50TH EPISODE! AND BOY DO SCOTT AND MIKE HAVE A PACKED SHOW FOR YOU! THERE ARE GUESTS GALORE INCLUDING BEA ARTHUR AND THE 1972 MIAMI DOLPHINS PLUS ALL KINDS OF MUSIC AND MIKE EVEN FIGHTS A BEAR! Wait a second...none that happens in this episode. And why? BECAUSE MIKE AND SCOTT ARE DUMBASSES AND THOUGHT THEY WERE RECORDING EPISODE 49 EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD ALREADY DONE THAT! Again...dumbasses. Anyway, this is episode 50 and the guys cover ALL-STAR SQUADRON #16, which was...not the best example of why this series is awesome. Mike gives a quick book recommendation (leading to a tangent, naturally) but once the synopsis (where Mike seemingly ignores Scott) is over the complaining begins. From the Scooby-Doo nature of the story to the issues with time paradoxes to Liberty Belle's shocking lack of medical knowledge to Etta Candy to a FREAKING PIT OF FIRE UNDER A METAL FLOOR Scott and Mike just go to town on this story. It's not all bad though and there is even a tangent about Song of the South. After all of that is the usual Elsewhere in the DC Multiverse and more of your e-mails! Next time: All-Star Squadron #17, which is a much better story.Feedback for this show can be sent to: talesofthejsa@gmail.comTwo True Freaks! is a proud member of BOTH the Comics Podcast Network (http://www.comicspodcasts.com/) and the League of Comic Book Podcasts (http://www.comicbooknoise.com/league/)!! Follow the fun on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/groups/113051642052970/ Also, Tales of the Justice Society of America now has its own Facebook Group!! -- https://www.facebook.com/groups/655940671134092/ THANK YOU for listening to Two True Freaks!!
WELCOME TO TALES OF THE JUSTICE SOCIETY OF AMERICA'S 50TH EPISODE! AND BOY DO SCOTT AND MIKE HAVE A PACKED SHOW FOR YOU! THERE ARE GUESTS GALORE INCLUDING BEA ARTHUR AND THE 1972 MIAMI DOLPHINS PLUS ALL KINDS OF MUSIC AND MIKE EVEN FIGHTS A BEAR! Wait a second...none that happens in this episode. And why? BECAUSE MIKE AND SCOTT ARE DUMBASSES AND THOUGHT THEY WERE RECORDING EPISODE 49 EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD ALREADY DONE THAT! Again...dumbasses. Anyway, this is episode 50 and the guys cover ALL-STAR SQUADRON #16, which was...not the best example of why this series is awesome. Mike gives a quick book recommendation (leading to a tangent, naturally) but once the synopsis (where Mike seemingly ignores Scott) is over the complaining begins. From the Scooby-Doo nature of the story to the issues with time paradoxes to Liberty Belle's shocking lack of medical knowledge to Etta Candy to a FREAKING PIT OF FIRE UNDER A METAL FLOOR Scott and Mike just go to town on this story. It's not all bad though and there is even a tangent about Song of the South. After all of that is the usual Elsewhere in the DC Multiverse and more of your e-mails! Next time: All-Star Squadron #17, which is a much better story.Feedback for this show can be sent to: talesofthejsa@gmail.comTwo True Freaks! is a proud member of BOTH the Comics Podcast Network (http://www.comicspodcasts.com/) and the League of Comic Book Podcasts (http://www.comicbooknoise.com/league/)!! Follow the fun on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/groups/113051642052970/ Also, Tales of the Justice Society of America now has its own Facebook Group!! -- https://www.facebook.com/groups/655940671134092/ THANK YOU for listening to Two True Freaks!!