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That Film Stew Podcast
Sounds Like Comics Ep 330 - Justice League: The New Frontier (Movie 2008)

That Film Stew Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2025 27:56


Directed by Dave Bullock and written by Stan Berkowitz, Justice League: The New Frontier is the animated superhero film adapted from the DC Comics limited series DC: The New Frontier. Luke and Nathan head back to 2008 to review the second film of the DC Universe Animated Original Movies by Warner Bros. Animation. Superman, Batman (Jeremy Sisto), Wonder Woman, the Green Lantern (David Boreanaz), the Flash (Neil Patrick Harris) and others form an alliance to battle evil.

Comic Book Rundown
Rundown Reviews #96 - Justice League: The New Frontier 2008

Comic Book Rundown

Play Episode Listen Later May 17, 2024 77:03


Take the Justice League of America and mix in some 1950's values and style, and you will end up with Justice League: The New Frontier from 2008. It's the second movie in the animated DC line. Let's see how it holds up.Twitter: @comicrundownInstagram: @comicbookrundownEmail: comicbookrundown@gmail.comHosted by Joe Janero, Ron Hanes and Charlie Shaw Edited by Joe JaneroTheme song provided by the other member of the Sex Turtles (Cam Malidor)Find our t-shirts at Redbubble and TeePublic https://www.redbubble.com/shop/comic+book+rundown?ref=search_boxhttp://tee.pub/lic/vBbIJZ4eLQ0

The MCU'S Bleeding Edge
Justice League The New Frontier : RECAP + DISCUSSION!! W/ J. Gunn NEW DCU SEGMENT #dcanimatedfilms

The MCU'S Bleeding Edge

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 10, 2024 147:36


This is our second installment of our DC Animated FIlms REVIEW Series, as we give you Justice League The New Frontier ( 2008) on Friday evening 2/3/23, 9:35pm EST/ 6:35pm PAC, LIVE as always, with Co-host Cyberneticshark moderating this second DC Animated Film Review after we Superman Doomsday last friday. We have Co-host Jeff S(TrueKnowledge) on the guest panel with Kyle and Andres The Pop Culture Guy, and we hope that all of you DC Comic/ DCU/ DC in general fans will come support us and join in the comment section!!! Intro / Outro Music- " Exosphere" by AlexGrohl Cybers LINKS- https://www.youtube.com/@cyberneticshark all his links can be found on YT!! Andres LINKS- https://www.youtube.com/@PopCultureguy https://www.youtube.com/@DCMarvelPlusTalk Kyle's LINKS https://www.youtube.com/@FandomPodcastNetwork https://fpnet.podbean.com/category/True-Believers-a-mcu-podcast/ All The MCU'S Bleeding Edge's LINKShttps://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100090571329875 https://www.twitch.tv/themcusbleedingedge https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-mcus-bleeding-edge https://rumble.com/c/c-1009757 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCREPsCRvzjH0ggYL_Larq1A https://www.tiktok.com/@UCREPsCRvzjH0ggYL_Larq1A https://twitter.com/mcusbleedingedg Co-host Cyberneticshark is using a Logitech BRIO along with Skullcandy headphones, a Audio- Technica AT2020 Condenser Studio Microphone, going through a 2021 Flagship Lenovo Legion 5 Gaming laptop. Co-host Jeff S(TrueKnowledge) is working with a Audio- Technica ATR2100 Condenser Studio Microphone, along with a pair of Audio- Technica Headphones, Logitech BRIO- C920-C922-Streamcam, going through a 2023 MacBook Pro along with using a ACER Nitro 5. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-mcus-bleeding-edge/message

Salt Circle Podcast
Salt Labyrinth | Episode 21 - New Frontier

Salt Circle Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2023 31:53


Ben and Hank read DC: The New Frontier (2004) by Darwyn Cooke and also watched the animated adaptation Justice League: The New Frontier (2008). Next time: Ben and Hank dive into the DC Animated universe starting with Batman the Animated Series. Email: SaltCirclePodcast@gmail.com Twitter: @SaltCirclePod Hank's Twitter: @ComicPanels The Burning Barrel Discord: discord.gg/jBDGW5j Theme Song: topianmusic.bandcamp.com/

Happiness In Darkness-The Superhero Movie Podcast
Justice League : The New Frontier (2008)

Happiness In Darkness-The Superhero Movie Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2023 54:00


DJ Nik and Keith Bliss discuss "Justice League : The New Frontier" !!! Enjoy ! If you would like to come on and discuss YOUR favourite movie send us a email with your movie of choice to : happinessindarknesshow@gmail.com . Check out our great tiers on Patreon : patreon.com/happinessindarkness !!!

The Nerd Stash Show
DC: The New Frontier - Longbox Hunters #2

The Nerd Stash Show

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 13, 2023 85:06


Hello and welcome to the Longbox Hunters, a podcast hosted by two longtime friends who adore comics and talking into microphones. Each issue (episode) will cover what our crew has been reading recently before moving on to whatever that edition's topic may be, with plenty of room for discussion, discourse, and even the occasional special guest to keep things fresh. From story arc analysis to character history deep dives and debates over widely contested comic book plot points and hot topics, the Longbox Hunters team covers everything in between all while bringing their trademark wit and enthusiasm that listeners of Nerds Talk Movies know and love! On today's issue, Tristan and Drew are talking about DC: The New Frontier. Here's a synopsis for that run, courtesy of Wikipedia: "DC: The New Frontier is an Eisner, Harvey, and Shuster Award-winning six-issue comic book limited series written and drawn by Darwyn Cooke, and published by DC Comics in 2004. The series was collected into two trade paperback volumes in 2004 and 2005, an Absolute Edition in 2006 and a deluxe edition in 2015. The story was adapted into an animated film, Justice League: The New Frontier, which was released on February 26, 2008. The series was influenced by both DC Comics' long history and series like Kingdom Come, The Golden Age, Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns. Much like The Golden Age, New Frontier is set primarily in the 1950s and depicts Golden Age superheroes Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman meeting Silver Age characters The Flash, Green Lantern and Martian Manhunter. The story bridges the gap between the end of the Golden Age and the beginning of the Silver Age in the DC Universe." Other Ways To Find Us TheNerdStash TheNerdStash TheNerdStash “Join Our Team!” Link TNS Network Podcasts Discord (Which is the best way to chat with us) The Latest Episode Of Power Up And Game The Latest Episode Of Nerds Talk Movies The Latest Episode Of Clash At The Stash Our Patreon TNS Network Team Tristan Benns' Linktree Drew Garrison's Linktree Other Links Fight - Hot_Music Pixabay Page (Our Intro And Outro Music) New installments of Longbox Hunters will drop every two weeks on Saturday night. What comic runs or tropes do you want to see Tristan and Drew cover next? What is your favorite uplifting or hopeful comic? Join our Discord and let us know!

The League of Melanated Gentlemen
II - Justice League: The New Frontier | DC Animation with Spenser & Friends

The League of Melanated Gentlemen

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 17, 2023 50:48


Thank you for joining us on this journey through DC Animation. In the episode, Spenser and Mister Percival will be discussing the 2008 DC animated film Justice League: The New Frontier. This is an LMG Podcast Production   Host: Spenser Jones Facebook Group: The League of Melanated Gentlemen Podcast

FanboyNation
Supervising Producer Butch Lukic Talks 'Green Lantern: Beware My Power' Premiering at SDCC

FanboyNation

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2022 13:46


Supervising Producer Butch Lukic (Justice League Unlimited, Justice League: The New Frontier, Batman Beyond) brings us, 'Green Lantern: Beware My Power', a story focusing on modern origin of Green Lantern, John Stewart, his struggles with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and the survivors guilt. All this while being drawn into an intergalactic battle between two warring planets, but not all is as it seems. We spoke with Lukic about Green Lantern, the significance of updating the Green Lantern story, racism in America and the power of humanizing our comic book as well as science fiction characters. 'Green Lantern: Beware My Power' premieres this weekend at San Diego Comic Con and comes to 4K Ultra HD, Blu-ray and Digital on Tuesday, July 26, 2022. #GreenLantern #GreenLanternBewareMyPower #SDCC #SDCC2022 #ComicCon #ComicCon2022 #FanboyNation

Whelmed :  the Young Justice files
Discussion : Vinton Heuck

Whelmed : the Young Justice files

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 5, 2022 31:06


Today in the Watchtower we welcome Vinton Heuck. Vinton has worked in the art departments for dozens of cartoons since the 1990s, acting as a storyboard artist on Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, The Batman, and Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, among others, as well as animated films like Batman: The Longest Halloween Part One, Justice League: The New Frontier, and multiple Scooby Doo movies. He's also been a director for animated series ranging from Transformers to Harley Quinn. But for our listeners, he's probably best known for his work on Young Justice as both a storyboard artist and the director of multiple episodes from seasons three and four, including “Private Security,” “Nightmare Monkeys,” and “Tale of Two Sisters.” @VintonHeuck Thanks to everyone for spending time with us. If you'd like to join us in discussing this incredible series, you can find us on Twitter @theYJfiles, on Facebook @crashingthemode, on Tumblr at theyjfiles.tumblr.com, and on our website crashingthemode.com. You can also find us on YouTube, Stitcher, and IHeartRadio. If that isn't enough you can email us at whelmedpodcast@gmail.com.  If you'd like to support our show, please consider sharing it with a friend and joining our chats on social media. You can also support the show by giving us a 5-Star review and/or rating on Apple Podcasts, or your podcatcher of choice. The ratings, comments, and subscriptions help others find the show. If you do leave us a rating, please let us know at our email address or on social media! Especially if you're outside the US, we have to look a little harder to find those. If you are able to support us monetarily, please consider becoming a patron at patreon.com/crashingthemode. Even $1 a month can help us bring you even more awesome discussion sessions, reviews, and more. And as always. Stay whelmed, everyone!

DC Films Squadcast
323: Movie Review: "Justice League: The New Frontier" (2008)

DC Films Squadcast

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 19, 2021 35:29


In this episode Tim and Scott review the animated film "Justice League: The New Frontier" (2008). It is the second review in a series of reviews of all of the DC Universe Animated Original Movies! You can help to support this show and the rest of Squadcast Media through Patreon at this link!  Thank you for your support! You can help support the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention HERE Where to find us: Follow DC Squadcast on Twitter at @DCSquadcast Follow Tim on Twitter at @Allenfire Follow Scott on Twitter at @ScottDC27 Email us at DCSquadcast@gmail.com Subscribe to Squadcast Media: DC Squadcast:  iTunes / Spotify / Google Play / Stitcher / RSS DCTV Squadcast:  iTunes / Google Play / Stitcher / RSS DC Comics Squadcast:  iTunes / Google Play / Stitcher / RSS Fans Without Borders: iTunes / Google Play / Stitcher / RSS Marvel Squadcast: iTunes / Google Play / Stitcher The show's intro music was composed by Tim Yoko. The show's outro music was composed by Jordan Funk.

My Idea Is...
38: CitWit! - Black Widow, The Suicide Squad and Space Jam: A New Legacy

My Idea Is...

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2021 85:47


Welcome back everyone to our competitive film podcast; Cine it to Win it! where two friends fight films for fun! This week we have two very different superhero movies and Lebron James - so let's jump right in! Timestamps: 0:00 - The warm up (intro) 04:23 - Black Widow review 21:17 - The Suicide Squad review 40:45 - Space Jam: A New Legacy review 52:19 - The Empire Strikes Back! South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut review 65:29 - The bonus features: Blockers, The Siege, Young Guns 2, Superman: Doomsday, Justice League: The New Frontier, Batman: The Long Halloween, Ted Lasso, Death's Door 82:05 - The warm down (outro) Thank you all for listening. If you enjoyed the episode please consider subscribing and leaving a rating, it would really go a long way. Catch you all next week! Email: cineittowinit@gmail.com Twitter: @cine_it Instagram: @cineittowinit Tags: Movies, Films, Latest, Releases, Review, Contest, Gameshow, Competition, Friendly, Rounds, Television, Games, News, VoD, Streaming, Netflix, Amazon Prime, HBOMax, Disney Plus, Apple TV Plus, Scarlett Johansson, Cate Shortland, Black Widow, Idris Elba, James Gunn, The Suicide Squad, LeBron James, Don Cheadle, Malcolm D. Lee, Space Jam: A New Legacy, Trey Parker, South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut, John Cena, Kay Cannon, Blockers, Denzel Washington, Edward Swick, The Siege, Emilio Estevez, Geoff Murphy, Young Guns 2 Intro & Outro Music Coming for You by NEFFEX, https://smarturl.it/neffex_soundcloud

Talk Without Rhythm Podcast
Episode 580: Justice League: The New Frontier (2008) and Superman vs. The Elite (2012)

Talk Without Rhythm Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2021 117:55


This week on the Talk Without Rhythm Podcast I'm fulfilling a Patreon Pick from Steve King of Invasion of the Podcast. Steve requested I take a look at 2008's Justice League: The New Frontier  and I chose to pair it with 2012's Superman vs. The Elite. [00:00] INTRO [01:48] Chin Stroker vs. Punter Promo [02:56] RANDOM CONVERSATION [32:43] Justice League: The New Frontier (2008) DC: The New Frontier [01:12:09] Superman vs. The Elite (2012) [01:44:22] FEEDBACK [01:54:27] ENDING MUSIC: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love and Understanding by Elvis Costello Buy Justice League: The New Frontier (2008) Buy Superman vs. The Elite (2012) Support TWoRP Contact Us talkwithoutrhythm@gmail.com

War Machine vs. War Horse
Justice League: The New Frontier (2008)

War Machine vs. War Horse

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2021 29:03


One host gets his way to take this podcast direct-to-video... ...and then keeps apologizing for it. Is it because he does not enjoy our selection of JUSTICE LEAGUE: THE NEW FRONTIER? No. But he does admit that his reasoning is he bought a new toy to sit on his shelf and so here we are as we kick off a team-up trilogy with Darywn Cooke's all-hands-on-deck look at the DC Universe and the best comic book adaptation. That also happens to be a cartoon. That went straight to video. We'll never do this again. Maybe. Enjoy! Support what we do with bonus content and early episodes on Patreon Twitter/Instagram/Facebook: @trilogyintheory Tweet at your hosts: @projectingfilm & @webistrying Letterboxd: @projectingfilm & @webistrying Artwork by: @nasketchs Find out more at https://trilogyintheory.pinecast.co This podcast is powered by Pinecast.

Ten Cent Takes
Issue 04: Professor Marston and the Wonder Women/Wonder Woman (animated)

Ten Cent Takes

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 15, 2021 83:09


"March" Movie Madness part 3 (of 3)! For our final Justice League movie discussion, we go outside the DCEU and discuss two movies dealing with Wonder Woman's origins in very different ways.  Professor Marston and the Wonder Women tells the story of Wonder Woman's creation and also looks at the unconventional lives of her creators. Meanwhile, the 2009 animated film provides a more modern take with an all-star vocal cast.  Join us as we go down the rabbit hole that is Wonder Woman's history and discuss kink, polyamory, and BDSM. And -per usual- we swear a lot, too. Have questions/comments/concerns? Hit us up: tencenttakes@gmail.com ----more----   Jessika: I hope you realize what extremely heavy California accents we have. I hope you understand when the feedback comes in, that will be part of it! Hello and welcome to Ten Cent Takes, the podcast where we correct your comic misconceptions. One issue at a time. My name is Jessika Frazier and I am joined by my cohost, the royal robot, Mike Thompson. Mike: That's right. All my circuits are platinum or I don't know. Gold, gold plated, something. Jessika: Oh, gold plated. You've got like diamond and crusted things. They also serve a purpose being one of the sharpest items or Mike: Yeah I it. Thank you for that intro. Jessika: Of course. Well, the purpose of this podcast is to study comic books in ways that are both fun and informative. We want to look at their coolest, weirdest and silliest moments, as well as examine how they're woven into the larger fabric of pop culture and history. Now, today we're discussing the final installment of our "March" movie madness. Now I'm throwing heavy quotes around March movie madness because it is actually April. Mike: It's almost tax day at this point. Jessika: It's almost tax day. So we bled out a little bit, but we're trying to do these bi-weekly we got a little ahead of ourselves because we got so excited just to be talking about these things that we did a few more than we really anticipated in March, I would say to our listeners benefit. Mike: Yeah, sure. I concur. Jessika: So we are doing a deep dive into Wonder Woman's origins today. Now I'm not just talking about the origins of the character, but also of their creator and the reasons and motivations that drove this comic into existence. I'm excited about this. Mike: I am too. These movies were really pleasant surprises for different reasons. Jessika: I will agree with that wholeheartedly. Now, before we get into that, though. We love to do that whole one cool thing you've read or watched lately. And Mike, let's go ahead and start with you. Mike: Yeah. So I've been consuming a lot of Star Trek lately. I really enjoy the franchise in general, but I have this deep abiding passion for Deep Space Nine because my great uncle who was essentially my grandfather when I was growing up , we used to watch the show together every Sunday when we would go over to their house for dinner. So like, that was just this wonderful bonding activity with this guy who used to be a dive bomber in World War II and his very nerdy little 11-year-old nephew. I have these very treasured memories and I have the entire series on DVD of Deep Space Nine, which I will be buried with by the way. But both the entire series and the recent documentary about the show is on Amazon Prime. So I've been rewatching all of that, and I've been actually rereading some of the comics and then last week Star Trek Legends came out on a Apple Arcade and... it's fine. It's nothing special, but it's a fun distraction if you're a Trekkie who wants to just mash it up all the various characters from the different series together. So I currently have a away team with characters from the Next Generation and then Discovery and then the original series all together. And it's dumb, but it's fun. But this has led me down this rabbit hole, and I think that we should probably wind up doing an episode on Star Trek history in comics and how it actually helped shape the MCU as we know it. Jessika: I would love that. That sounds like so much fun. And I love Star Trek as well. I used to watch Star Trek with my dad. We were a Next Gen family. So I, you know, next gen and Riker jumping over chairs is like near and dear to my heart. Mike: I'm really bummed that that is not an animation and Star Trek Legends. It really makes me so grumpy. Jessika: What a miss. Such a missed opportunity Mike: What about you? What have you been reading or watching lately? Jessika: So I've been casually reading through a reprint of Giant-Size X-Men from 1975, and I say casually just kind of every once in a while I'll pick it up and I'll read through a few pages and be like, "Oh that was fun." And kind of put it back down again between whatever I'm doing. So of course you know they're they're retro comics and you know things are going to... it's me: Things are going to rub me the wrong way about some of the retro comics. Mike: A comic that's almost 40 years old possibly having some problematic elements to it? Go on. Jessika: Yeah no I try to set aside a lot of that but it is quite difficult with my very outspoken mind of mine. But one scene that really bothered me was from Storm's introduction. Professor X seeks out Storm in her native Kenya where she's legitimately saving the countryside by using her weather powers to get rid of drought. Mike: Right Jessika: But Professor X has the audacity to show up and say, "nah listen: Like I know you're helping quote unquote helping people here but I also need your help. And I'm much more important, let's be real. It's just a whole bag of yikes. Mike: Yeah I mean what year did giant size X-Men come out? Was that 75? Jessika: It was 75. Mhm. Mike: Yeah... That was the same year that we got Lois Lane turning black for a literal white savior piece of journalism. Racial sensitivity was not really a thing back then Jessika: Yeah, absolutely. And I and I do try to put myself into that mindset It's just so cringey though in this day and age to see things like that Mike: Yeah. Jessika: What I do like about it that everybody is so salty to one another. Like so salty. They're so sassy to one another. Every other page has just a roast battle between the members of the X-Men where they're like "yeah, One Eye" like Mike: I think I read a reprint of that when I was like 12 or 13 but I haven't re-read it at all recently. So I'll have to go back and check that out Jessika: I'll throw it your way. You can borrow it. It's fun. Well let's get into the meat of our episode and this was definitely a meaty topic. And I know I told you a little bit earlier I love me a good rabbit hole. Love jumping just right into them right off the top I read –more like I listened to but I mean it was a lot of time spent– three different audio books on the topic. Mike: Yeah no that's awesome I'm so excited to hear about all of Jessika: this. And the hard part then was whittling down what information I really wanted to give you. I highly recommend all of these resources and I really want to just throw them out at the top We will also throw them into the show notes. But I highly recommend -if you're interested in this topic- go read more about this because I'm not even touching the surface of these books. They are amazing. So the first one that I read was it was actually an article from smithsonian.com titled "the surprising origin story of Wonder Woman" by Jill LePore which led me to Jill LePore's larger book or I would say more extended book called The Secret History of Wonder Woman. It was also read by the author, so if you're a book on tape person, highly recommend listening to it. She's one of those people who really keeps your attention and she doesn't have that kind of drowsy lilt that some people do while they're reading, So I definitely I was able to stay really focused on it. And the last one was Wonder Woman Psychology by Trina Robbins and that had a couple of different narrators but that one was also very interesting and talked about all of the different aspects of the time and the different parts of psychology and gets more into because you know spoiler alert the author was a psychologist It does get deeper into that whole aspect of the reasons behind the comic in that way. Mike: That's a really cool and I'm really excited to hear everything that you learned because this is a topic that I had a vague awareness of but I have tried to stay as in the dark as possible for this episode because I'm really excited to learn from you about this Jessika: Let's all go on a learning journey together, Folks. What do you say. Mike: Yeah. Hop on the magic school bus kids. Jessika: Here we go. Mike: We're going to hang out with Goth Miss Frizzle. Jessika: Oh my gosh I know I'm wearing all black today and I have high bun. Very McGonigal right now. Mr Porter Um so Diana Prince is the secret identity of Wonder Woman but did you know that the creator of Wonder Woman had a secret identity himself? Well, today we're going to be discussing the creator of Wonder Woman, Charles Milton... or should I say William Moulton Marston. Marston's name, like his stories, were an amalgamation of fact and fiction his middle name mixed with that If max gains one of the co-founders of All-Star Comics and later DC, which stands for Detective Comics -fun fact: I didn't know that- where Wonder Woman made her debut. But Marston was hiding more than just a name. He had an entire life that he kept hidden from the world. William Moulton Marston was born in Massachusetts in May of 1893 to Frederick William Marston and Annie Marston. They bestowed upon him his mother's maiden name molten as a middle name, and as I've mentioned the last name he later uses as his nom du plume. By all accounts he seemed to have a easy childhood though I did hear reports that he was in the military for a stint I should say acting as a psychologist... I believe that was after his Harvard education, though He was accepted to Harvard for his advanced education and he eventually graduated and became a professor of psychology. While attending Harvard, Marston had many interests. One of them being the intelligent and motivated Elizabeth Holloway, whom he would later marry and who had been taking courses in one of the lesser quote unquote lesser universities that you know allowed women at that time. Mike: That was pretty standard at the time, right? Higher education for women was a new thing that was very looked down upon? Jessika: Oh it was incredibly new. This was the early 1900s. We're talking before 1910. That area. Women didn't have the right to vote yet which we definitely will get into. Didn't have the right to vote until 1920. That was a good few years before that point So the schools had the male schools would have a sister school basically or a lesser school . And for Harvard that was Radcliffe, which is where Holloway went And this was considered again the sister school But of course didn't have the same name and you didn't get the same degree .You still graduated from Radcliffe and women really didn't have the option to go down that actual Harvard route, which of course didn't give them an edge at all No edge Thanks a lot. Mike: Yeah what did you use a degree for back then? Jessika: I mean, nothing. What are you going to do with this degree in your home, in the kitchen? The oven doesn't need you to have a degree. It's just so gross. Mike: It's not a masters in baking roasts, Linda Jessika: And how they wished it were. You would think. Harvard acted like that. It was rough. She did however finish her education and become an lawyer with her degree being issued from Radcliffe despite petitioning multiple times to get a Harvard degree, since she was taking the same classes, they were the same classes. Mike: With the same professors, too, right? Jessika: Oh, yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The class just had women in it instead of men That was the only difference. During college she and Marston were inseparable. One of the biographies I read stated that there was this rule that a woman could not walk or ride unaccompanied with a man However Holloway thought that was a completely stupid rule and just didn't follow it, which I love. She's like, "fuck that." Mike: That's so good. Jessika: And everything else I read about her said "fuck the rules, I do what I want." Which is so amazing for a woman in the early 1900s. I mean it's kind of an interesting concept right now let alone the 1900s. Mike: Yeah... we still have all of these societal norms that women are not supposed to go against. Jessika: Yeah. So Marston varied interests also included a search for "the truth." Quote unquote the truth. This was partially inspire Now part of what he invented I should say was inspired by an observation by Holloway that when she got mad or excited her blood pressure seemed to climb. And from that Marston created the earliest version of what we now know as the lie detector test or polygraph. The test is we know it now measures more than just blood pressure which was really the only thing he was checking on. Blood pressure in and of itself isn't going to tell you everything that you quote unquote need to know for a lie detector to be effective. That being said it's also mostly an admissible as we know it now in the US court of laws depending on the place and both parties have to agree to have it be accepted into the court case which I found I didn't know that. Yeah! Mike: I knew that growing up lie detector tests were considered to be kind of this infallible thing. And then it was like well you know you can sort of get around it by all these old wives tales of like you know you put a tack in your shoe and you press your toe against it and the pain messes up the results. And then later on I found out that they're not really great, they're not really admissible anymore but I didn't know that because I know that a lot of law enforcement still loves to rely on it. Jessika: Yeah and I think about the if you think about when you're nervous you can have a lot of different reasons for being nervous. Not because you're lying, necessarily. You could be a bad test taker and then you suddenly look like a guilty party It could be as that. Mike: I'm just thinking about all the times that I had to give public speeches. Either class presentations or later on when I was a journalist and I was moderating panels. Every time my pulse would be through the roof. Jessika: Same. Now can you imagine being somebody who is of an oppressed or a minority population who's being put into a situation where they have people of power who have them in a room and they have control and that is a really scary thing. Mike: Yeah, that sounds like a nightmare scenario. Jessika: I can imagine my heart rate going up in that situation, so having that be the measure doesn't seem like the best of ideas In my opinion. That being said, it does seem to be admissible in the court of Steve Wilkos and other daytime television shows. Mike, tell me the truth: Do you or have you ever watched those daytime shows like Maury or Jerry Springer or Steve Wilkos? Mike: Yeah, so... Not only did I watch Maury during the daytime when I was just working on stuff at school and I wanted something on in the background, but I was a staff photographer for a newspaper during a celebrity golf tournament and Maury Povich was one of the celebrity golfers. He was really nice I wound up chatting with him for a minute while he was waiting for his turn at golf. I really feel like I missed an opportunity to have him record saying that I was not the father because that was the big thing that he was doing back then was all those paternity tests. Jessika: You say that like he's not still doing that. Mike: I don't know, does he still have show? I don't have TV anymore Jessika: I think so. You know, I really just catch clips. What I'll do is if I'm working and I have to be paying attention to my work -or if I if it's not something mindless like entering data or something- I like to listen to podcasts if I can actually pay attention but if I can't I'll just put on -and I don't watch it but I'll just- put on rotating clips through Facebook or something just go through Facebook watch and just whatever comes up next comes up. And every once in a while we'll get one of those Steve Wilkos and I hear "STEEEEVE" and I'm like, "Oh here we go." And it's always it's always a lie detector test, still to this day. Mike: Was Steve the guy who got his own show sprung off of like spun off of Jerry Springer? Jessika: "sprung off Springer." Correct. Yes. Mike: My roommate and I in college loved to watch Jerry Springer at night because it was the trashiest shit and we not stop. It was like a train wreck, you couldn't look away. Which I think was generally the appeal of Jerry Springer. But it's hard to resolve that because every interview I've seen with the guy he seems like a really pleasant down to earth human being. And then I'm like but you put the trashiest shit on television and it is demonstrable the effect that you had on daytime talk shows for a long time and still to this day in certain ways but for a while everybody was aping that. Anyway, this was a tangent. Jessika: That's okay It was exactly the tangent I wanted. Mike: Maury seemed like a lovely person for all two minutes that I interacted with him, and I hope that Jerry Springer is the person that he seems to be during interviews. Jessika: Same. Well, speaking of life drama, Marston had plenty. Mike: Oh, do tell. Jessika: Yeah. He was already married to his wife the aforementioned Elizabeth -who for consistency I'm going to continue calling Holloway though she did take his name when they got married. Marston, working as a professor at Tufts which is another university, fell in love with one of his students, Olive Byrne, in 1925 and advised his wife that Byrne could either move in or Marston was leaving. Mike: Oh. Jessika: Yeah. That was what the history said So we'll talk through the movie later Mike: Yeah, 'cuz my only familiarity with this so far is what I saw in the movie. *uggggh* Jessika: That was my reaction I now I did my research prior to watching the movie for this exact reason. So I watched the movie last night. It's super fresh. Mike: Yeah I watched it yesterday afternoon and then I watched the other one which we'll get into so it was the origins of Wonder Woman and then Wonder Woman a little bit more modern incarnation. Jessika: Perfect. Yeah. Byrne interestingly enough was the niece of Margaret Sanger. Have you heard that name before Mike: Yeah. She was like one of the early women's rights crusaders. Jessika: Yeah Yup Yup She was a renowned women's rights and birth control activist along with her sister Ethel Byrne opened the first birth control clinic in the United States which is so cool Mike: Yeah, that's awesome. Jessika: Both however were arrested for the illegal distribution of contraception and Ethel Byrne almost died during a hunger strike while she was in jail. Mike: I remember reading about that like in one of my one of my history classes. I mean, that checks out. Jessika: It was bad news bears. So I didn't write this down but I'm just remembering but I did read or listened to sources that said that multiple women were arrested and went on hunger strike and they were forced feeding them It was just it was bad news. The whole thing was just bad. So this obviously was during a time when women were still fighting for the right to vote as I'd mentioned earlier. And the idea of feminism was just a twinkle of a notion. So Byrne Holloway and Marston all three lived together for years as a throuple. Super interestingly they made up a backstory for all of as a widowed relative and both Holloway and Byrne were raising Marston's children. Byrne's Children were always told that their father had passed away and did not find out about the truth of their father's identity until after his death. Mike: Wow. So he fathered children with both women, correct? Jessika: He did. Yeah He fathered I believe two with Byrne and three with Holloway. They all live together in a house and again they managed to keep it secret enough that even their children didn't know. In the same house It's so wild to me Like how you and Mike: Insane to me. Jessika: You fathered children with this woman and they didn't know. No one knew. I can't fathom that honestly. Especially in a time when everybody was up at everybody else's business. Mike: Oh yeah. It's not like we had Netflix. You needed to do invent your own drama. Jessika: You look out Mike: the window. Before Marston died because he died fairly young as I remember it. So that was the whole thing in the movie is that they got out as being in a throuple to their neighbors. Nothing? Jessika: Never happened. They didn't get in trouble at the school. They didn't get in trouble with the neighbors. None of that. It was seamless. Mike: That actually makes me really happy. Jessika: Me too Mike: I love the idea of it sounds like a relatively healthy family. Jessika: I Mike: don't know. Maybe? Jessika: Y'know from what I was hearing because we're still in 1910 we're still in the 1920s I guess at this point it's still is like Marston is Papa Marston he's still man of the house. So I don't know especially when you're looking at this whole -how it was phrased and this is just a couple of sources- but just as far as how it's phrased in this I don't know that Holloway really had a choice other than "well I could be stuck here with" I don't know if she had children at that point "I could maybe be stuck as a single mother in the 1920s or I could allow this other woman to come into my house" but what's great about that is Byrne was able to just stay home and raise the kids. So Holloway was still able to go out and have a career. Yeah She still went out and had a career And so that's where it's I have a hard time saying definitively black and white Marston was a feminist as we would call him now. Probably not. But he definitely had the leanings of that. And he definitely was far advanced for his time Mike: sure I can only imagine. Was he still teaching during this time or was he doing something else? Jessika: He did so many things. He did so many things and I'll actually get into that a little bit further. But it was such a it did seem like a good situation for everyone. Marston had multiple professional interests And Marston believed not only in equality for women, but even further he believed that society should be matriarchal... which is where he goes a little bit more like a Ooh he just kind of swings off you know Cause he's like, "no no no no we should go in the exact 180. There's no middle ground here Women should rule society." Sure right now we live with men. Let's flip it over on its head and see how it goes I guess? But would settle for equality. Mike: Speaking as a mediocre white dude I'm totally fine with this plan. Jessika: Great Let's put it into effect. Who could I call? Papa Joe? I'll bring Mike: it up at the next meeting at the next mediocre white dude club meeting Jessika: I knew you guys had meetings. The gays definitely have meetings Well yeah You know you know you know I'm like well like I'm excluding you from the LGBT community That's rude of me and my Mike: apologies. The rest of them already do already. It's fine. Jessika: To Touché. We did have that conversation earlier. Biphobia. It's a real problem Mike: Yeah It's fun. Jessika: Yeah we were talking about Marston and his wild matriarchal ideas. And his idea was that women were more thoughtful empathetic and level headed when making decisions and would be better suited to positions of leadership. And Marston is quoted as saying -and if you want us to read this quote for me: Mike: okay! " Frankly Wonder Woman is a psychological propaganda for the new type of woman who, I believe, should rule the world." Jessika: So you can kind of see where he was going with that. Obviously she's powerful, she's more powerful than most of the men that she comes across. And he really was trying to flip that on its head with this character. Mike: Yeah. There was nothing like her before that Jessika: No. Absolutely nothing. Absolutely nothing. However Marston's entry into the entertainment business didn't start with feminine power of Wonder Woman but instead with the film industry and again this is early film we're talking. He was in the silent film era and then moved talkies. Mike: Golden Age. Jessika: The Golden Age. And there he wrote screenplays and later acted as the consulting psychologist for universal pictures which I didn't even know That was a thing Having a consulting psychologist makes a lot of sense Mike: Yeah it does I just had no idea that was even a role that existed back then. Jessika: Yeah I know. And back then even I know. And at this point he'd already been published, having written dozens of magazine articles and a novel about his opinions Let's just call them or his findings about psychology at the time. And it is called a novel So just keep that in mind. It's called "Emotions of People" I believe. And they do mention it briefly in the film I didn't read it. I'm sure I could jump around and do I just didn't want to get into 1920s garbage which to He was then asked in 1941 to be the consulting psychologist for DC by Maxwell Charles Gaines who was more or less the creator of comics as we know them. At the time Gaines was under fire for content that folks deemed at the time to be risque. So he hired Marston to take off some of the heat by approving the content that was going out. With Marston on the team the largest complaints that they received was the aggressive masculinity that seemed to be the theme of all of the comic books. Yeah I know. You would think that we live in this society that values men so much you would think that we'd be able to just carry on with that you one form. Mike: Yeah Especially during that era which was right when we were getting into World War II and we were going hard for those traditional masculine values Jessika: Yup we want strong men who can go out there and die, I mean fight, for us. Yes. Marston suggested that the best way to counter that idea with the critics was to create a female superhero. Now Gaines accepted the idea but told Marston he had to write the strip himself. So he did. And with the help of illustrator Harry G Peter, Wonder Woman was in essence born. She was fierce, she was strong, she had a lasso that was that made others obey. It wasn't a truth thing that we now know it as the lasso of truth It was an obedient situation. Everybody who was lassoed had to obey her. So it was more of a dominance situation, which we will absolutely get to. And it makes a little bit more sense. Although there again with his lie detector the truth also makes sense. Either way, it tracks but it was obedience. Mike: Yeah you don't say. Jessika: One of her most important qualities was that she didn't kill. That was her empathy. That was that piece of her that was more feminine than some of those other comic book characters, those typical comic book characters Mike: Yeah. Even in the early days I know Batman killed people originally. He was like a goon and I think Superman did too in his early run. I think, can't remember for sure. Jessika: I believe so And then they when they got the comics code? When it was stricter with the comics code that's when they kind of moved into less actual killing from what I was reading I believe. Mike: You know I don't know for certain but it may have been before that because they were just they're such popular characters for kids. But I'm not entirely certain but I know that the early appearances are pretty brutal. I remember Batman hanging a dude from his plane. Jessika: Well I mean Superman came out in 1939 so yeah it's early. I'm going to send you a picture Mike: Okay. Jessika: And so this is the first introduction to Wonder Woman which was seen on the cover of sensation comics Will you please describe the cover? Mike: Yeah .So it is Sensation Comics Number One, the best of the DC magazines. You see Wonder Woman I'm not sure if the sun is really enlarged or if she is just jumping in front of something that's yellow to kind of add a little color to it but she is being shot at by a bunch of what appear to be mobsters somewhere in Washington DC because the capital is there and... is that is that the Lincoln Memorial? I can't tell what other building is that has the flag. Jessika: Apparently they're right across the street from each other. Not real life. This is scale. Mike: It looks like a vaguely government building I can't tell. Jessika: Yeah supposed to be something like that Mike: But it says "featuring the sensational new adventure strip character Wonder Woman!" You got to get that exclamation point in. She's kind of jacked like even back then which I kind of love. She is wearing a truly unflattering pair of boots that are only going up to mid calf as opposed to what we know now where they're just above the knee and armored and bad-ass. But it's the outfit that actually she's still sort of rocking the day where she's got the kind of red bustier with the gold eagle on it and then she's got the bulletproof bracelets and then she's got what I can only describe it as the bottom part of a sun dress kind of skirt where it's like very flowy? As opposed to that that gladiatorial skirt that she has now. But it's very identifiably Wonder Woman. Jessika: Yeah. And it goes back and forth between this was her first debut but it wasn't her first issue. first issue she was wearing more of what people were calling underpants of this same pattern. And that's what more used to. Yeah We're used to those like little booty shorts that she's rocking. So, right off the bat: Mike if you were a critic, in 1942 what would your main complaint about this be? Just based on the cover? Mike: I don't know. They were really concerned about the violence that was being marketed towards kids so probably the gunfire. Probably the fact that she was showing too much skin. Jessika: it. She wasn't clothed enough .Oh, they didn't care about the gunfire. That was not what was that was not the problem. Gasp. The drama was that Wonder Woman was wearing far too few clothes for Puritan America. Mike: Jesus Christ. And that's actually super tame Jessika: It's really tame. When you think about other superheroes that we have nowadays especially: You've got these massive boobs that are up to her neck and this little waist and like wearing a thong. But this is so covered Mike: Yeah. A lot of modern comics have these very almost suggestive poses. Do you remember when the Avengers came out and and all of the dudes had very action-oriented poses and then Black Widow was turned so that we could see her butt? She had Jessika: her like her arm up so that you could see her boob line. Mike: Yeah. And it's a really action oriented pose and it's very matter of fact there is nothing sexualized about that, kinda love. Jessika: Marston made it a point for her to be doing action and for her to be doing sports and for her to be doing things that were very active because women weren't given that as a role. So he really wanted to present that as another facet of, "Hey, this can also be feminine. Yeah I thought so, too. And while a slight costume adjustment seemed easy enough to deal with some critics also had qualms with other aspects of the comic. Namely, the depiction of women especially our heroine being tied or chained up or left in other positions of containment. Now, Marston's intention behind this seemed to be twofold in my opinion. Part one feminism and part two I also think he was just in kinky motherfucker. Which is great. Like, that's fine no kink shame. But we're going to briefly discuss both. So part one feminism. Marston was a supporter of women's rights, as we said. He was a supporter of the right to vote and the ability to have access to contraceptives. He'd been a supporter of these movements in his own right and was particularly struck by the female suffragettes who would chain themselves to a location in protest. Chains seem to him to be the very image brought to life of how society chains down and stifles women from succeeding. Either chaining them to their family before they're wed, chaining them to their new husband, or chaining them to pregnancies that they either cannot afford or don't want. In each of these portrayals of Wonder Woman being tied down there is always the moment that she's able to break free from her restraints in triumph which is just a perfect metaphor for the modern woman being able to break free from the societal chains that still bind her. And this hope that women will be able to eventually free themselves for good. In everything I've read, you had women suffragettes chaining themselves to places in protest. Same thing with the contraceptive movement. That was a huge metaphor for both of those movements, so it would make sense that if you are portraying a feminist during that era that that might be a theme. And I think people who maybe didn't support or were unfamiliar with the movements might have something to say negatively against the imagery, especially if they didn't understand Mike: We had a lot of people back then who were really pushing for propriety and basically you can't let immoral elements affect the children. They always fucking latch on to like "think of the children. Protect the children." Fuck off. Jessika: We still do that shit. This is just like pizza gate all over again. Mike: Yeah Jessika: Pizza gate before pizza gate. Little did they know. But part two: the kink factor. Marston had a whole dominance theory that I think tells a lot more about him than it does to the human experience In general I'm not going to get deep into the theory because we both have lives but it pertains to dominance and submission at the very minimum. Mike: You don't say. Jessika: Yo I know right. Mike: What. Shock. Jessika: At this point it's pretty well established that individuals have different drives and things that excite them. But I think that Marston was looking at the world from a place of, oh I like this So everybody is like this." Which just isn't the case for everybody. Mike: Right. But that's also like a very stereotypical kind of dude attitude. Jessika: Yeah. This is my worldview and so it must be everybody's. Absolutely. Again, he's some Harvard bro. Mike: Yeah. Yeah. Jessika: You're able to just go to Harvard in 1925 like Mike: NBD. I'm Jessika: gonna Mike: to be living near there soon. Oh God. I'm going to Jessika: be visiting you soon. I've got the people there. You're fine. We'll get you there. We'll get you there. But my impression is that he assumed that everyone else was a little kinky like him. Also it needs to be stated that again in interviewing Marson's children they never saw toys, ropes, anything that he had mentioned in the comics or that were the things that were being taken as this great offense, they didn't see any of those things. So it was this was also a complete surprise to them nothing related to bondage. Mike: Yeah that's wild man. I just I think about the fact that my partner has stories about how when everyone was out of the house she would just snoop around when she was growing up. And I remember doing that too And kids get into shit. Jessika: We also grew up in the age in the era of the latchkey child, though. My parents would just and not for long periods of time it's not like they would go out of town or something. But they'd leave us and say "don't answer the door. You're not home. Don't answer the phone. We'll call and ring twice and then hang up and then call back If we want to talk to you know whatever there was a code. But there again we lived in a different time even this many years I mean it just we sound like old people every time we have this conversation. Mike: You know someone pointed out that if Back To The Future was taking place today Marty McFly would be going back to like 91. Jessika: Don't do this to me. Mike: We're old, Jess. Jessika: We're Mike: practically Jessika: this Okay Mike. This is going to seem like such a non-sequitur But have you ever had to do a DISC personality assessment for any of your offices jobs? Mike: I don't think so. The name isn't familiar but describe this to me. Jessika: Basically it's like any of those other stupid employee personality tests where they try to like "what part of the team are you? How can we use your strengths?" I'm a supervisor so I've had to go through all this crap. And it's cool. It's a cool concept but it's also like mind numbing if it's not your wheelhouse. Mike: No. So I've never taken anything like this no. Jessika: Okay So yeah you basically answered a bunch of questions about what you would do in a situation. And it's kind of one of those no wrong answers kind of tests. And then they put you into one of four different categories. So I have had to do this before and and other ones like it but I honestly can't remember what I scored and I'm not going to get into a long-winded lecture on the topic either but suffice it to say that part of that is dominance That's the D and part of it is compliance which is the C. Mike: So was this something Marston came up with? Jessika: Yeah. Marston came up with and it's we still use version of this today which is so interesting. So far he's got lie detector, check. We still kind of use it today. Steve Wilkos does. And then now he's got the DISC which I definitely have taken. Now, it doesn't look the same. The categories are not the same as when he first created them. So less kink forward I would say. But you still have those two that are vibing you know. And for those of you are you unfamiliar with the kink scene: Power dynamics in play can sometimes come in the form of having one dominant and one submissive partner. But again not everybody functions in that way. Ultimately, wonder Woman was allowed to continue as she was. Delighting readers even to this day though of course the writing has changed hands multiple times meaning that her true meaning was sometimes lost to those who were in charge of telling her story. For example once Wonder Woman entered the Justice League she was immediately made to be the secretary. And there were many times that she was relegated to staying behind because she just had so much to take care of and "oh little old me couldn't get involved in having lifting" bullshit. God damn. She's so fucking strong. She has powers and Batman doesn't. Why the fuck does he get to go on missions? Why the fuck Isn't Batman the secretary? That's my question. Oh he has money my own his Mike: power that he's rich. Jessika: God damn. Yeah. Thanks for that Ben Affleck. We know. Still like him as Batman. Mike: Yeah. I'll die on that hill he was good. Jessika: Yeah Yeah He was good There was also a point where she lost her powers completely though did gain them back, those were times that Wonder Woman didn't necessarily feel like the fierce warrior she truly is. Mike: Yeah, actually, Brian's comics -our local comic shop- the first time I went in there they had the all-new Wonder Woman issue where it's like this iconic cover where it's her tearing up I think the original version of her and it's like get ready for the all new Wonder Woman I think that's when they de-powered her. I think. I'm not certain I'm really bummed that I didn't pick that up when it was there. Jessika: The idea behind that apparently was supposed to be that would make her more human and relatable but that's not you're just taking away the things that make her a stronger character for people that look up to her. Mike: Yeah I'm sorry. Did you were you able to hear my eyes rolling out of their Jessika: I did actually Yeah no that was a really palpable eye-roll. well Marston passed away at the age of 53 of cancer So very young like you were saying. Yeah. Holloway and Byrne continue living together until they both went into the hospital around the same time in 1990. When Byrne passed away, in a different room in the same hospital at the age of 86. Mike: I Jessika: got teary writing this so I'm probably going to get teary reading it. Upon hearing the news of burns passing Holloway sang a poem by Tennyson in her hospital room. So everything I've read alludes to the idea that Holloway and Byrne were also in a relationship with each other not just the man with all of them that they did have there were women who were kind of rotating in the house. It wasn't just these two there were other women who at different periods of time lived in the house undetected by the way can we just give it up for the Marston Family. Mike: Like. How? Jessika: That's what I'm saying. I don't know, money? And the dude had his little hands in everything so he probably just knew a bunch of people I don't know How do you get away with things as a guy I literally can't even imagine. Mike: This is my friend who's coming over to assist with this thing? The question is were they just coming into visit or were they living there for periods of Jessika: time? They were living there for a parts. Yes I know me too. I know. Okay let's run through: You have a widowed relative. You could be bringing in a nanny. You could be bringing in another person who works in the house et cetera et cetera. You could be bringing in a cousin or another type of relative. I'm sure you could excuse up the yin yang. Mike: Yeah I mean you can come up with excuses but if they're like living with you for any amount of time there are those moments of small intimacies that other people will pick up on. I don't know I mean were the kids just dumb? I don't know like how that requires some serious commitment to acting I feel. Jessika: Yeah. Oh yeah. Mike: So much fucking effort. Jessika: I was just going to say that. Can you imagine? I can't. Mike: No. Jessika: The mental strain alone. Mike: Like I have one partner, I have step-kids, and I have pets and that's like that's kind of the extent of my bandwidth. Jessika: Oh okay So I am non-monogamous or Poly, polyamorous. So I do have multiple partners although I they're what I would consider like secondary partners or partners that I don't I don't live with them, I don't necessarily see them on a super regular basis but I still maintain a relationship with them. And I still consider them partners. To whatever you know effect that is. But it is a lot of work and it's so much communication and you can just tell that Marston had to have been really communicative and that whole family had to have been really communicative. Mike: They must have been. Jessika: Or else how. Mike: At the same time like that era men weren't necessarily expected to be super communicative or show a lot of emotion or be the one to provide nurturing experiences with the kids. So maybe they just didn't get a lot of exposure to the kids and were really just exposed to their mothers and the motherly figures. I mean, this is all completely uninformed speculation so don't take anything that I'm saying with even a grain of salt like this. Jessika: Oh no. Absolutely at any rate Holloway passed away in 1993 at the ripe age of 100. Mike: Oh wow. So there was a little bit Jessika: of an age difference. Around Yeah there was there was yeah. Sounds like about a little bit less than 20 years. About 14 years. But if you think about it she was in college. Mike: Yeah. Jessika: He was her teacher and they were already married. He went to I want to say that he started college like prior to 1910. And they met and she moved into the house in 1925. So that's a good 15. Mike: He would have been about he would have been about 17 and 1910 right? Based on it like he was 1893 he said? Jessika: Yes yes. Yeah. And it sounds like Holloway was born the same year. Mike: Yeah and I got to say the love story between Holloway and Byrne sounds like something straight out of a movie. Which we're about to get into. But we all want to have that partner who is with us till the bitter end and then they sing a poem in our memory. Like goddamn. Jessika: It's just so beautiful. Yeah. They had it when they live together in the house, they had adjoining rooms and this is where it's like how did your kids not know because Marston would sleep in both. How did he like literally how did they not know? No it's wild to me. And then when they were older, byrne and Holloway lived in a little two bedroom place in Tampa together. This cute place apparently. So let's talk about our reactions here. We did also watch Professor Marston and the Wonder Women which I think it's worth a watch in my just off the bat. Mike: Yeah. I really liked it a lot and it was a movie that totally flew under the radar for me when it came out. I was vaguely aware of it but I really did not know much about it before we talked about what movies we wanted to do and March being women's month it seemed like a natural conclusion after the DCEU. Jessika: Yeah. Absolutely. That train wreck. I'm sorry. Mike: I was Jessika: of We did. We did enjoy one of the movies and we enjoyed aspects of of them. I trailed off my brain wouldn't let me do it It's like no that sentence Mike: I mean we kind of enjoyed parts of the Snyder cut Jessika: We did We liked it better Mike: than I don't like we're still Jessika: bitching about the Snyder Cut Mike: Look at Jessika: this Mike: back Jessika: Goddammit. We've literally can't get away from it Zach Snyder, hit us up.. No don't. You're not going to like what you hear I'm going to get to eat It adds Zach Snyder is going to be like Mike: I want the Snyder cut of Professor Marston in the Women which will be just scenes of Luke Evans with the Women in the background and don't do anything else. Jessika: And there's no dialogue in this one at all. It's just it's just heavy looks. Mike: It's just all the scenes from that sorority scene just over and just dark, scenes. Jessika: Definitely talk about that. Oh. What did you think about the film overall. Mike: Like I said, I overall really enjoyed it. I had heard about this movie a little bit. I remember my weightlifting partner at the time was telling me about how she and her wife had gone and enjoyed it and she thought that I would really like it. And I was like, "yeah okay cool." And then it just I didn't get around to seeing it while it was out in it's very limited run in theaters. And then I don't think it ever came to any streaming platform when I was aware of it. I was really surprised by actually how much I did enjoy it. I thought it was a shockingly sweet love story and I was expecting something much more judgmental or scandalous I was really expecting a much more judgy story about the Marstons and Byrne raising an entire family as a throuple. Jessika: was too. Mike: I was wondering if the relationship was ever outed and if they ever did break up like they did in the movie because that felt kind of forced and it felt very Hollywood and I was like "all right, whatever. This is dumb." At the end where they're on their knees submitting to Byrne." Jessika: Spot on That was made up There was none of that. Mike: I still think the most offensive thing about that movie was that they tried to make me think that someone who looked like Luke Evans was responsible for Wonder Woman's creation. I love Luke Evans I think he's really a fun actor and I was really glad to see him in a real role as opposed to I saw Dracula untold in theaters. I saw I'm Oh man I I didn't see Beauty and The Beast in theaters but I've since seen it. He's one of those actors where I feel like he just needs to be given good roles. He's like Kiana Reeves where I feel like he's often typecast and just thrust into stuff that aren't really any good but he was really good in this. That said: I've seen that man shirtless so many times and I don't know a single comic creator with abs like that. On the flip side, I went into this trying to keep myself as unaware a lot of the history of Marston but I do know what he looked like in his forties and that was like a dude in his seventies. Jessika: Did you watch all at the end of the film they had all the pictures. Yeah And you're just like, "oh. Oh." Like because Byrne and Holloway also not looking like who they cast. Not even a little bit, not even at all. Mike: Okay this is mean. But I'm like yes you look like the type of people who would be in a throuple. Jessika: No. Okay, fair enough And especially here's you know what it reminded me of it reminded me of those pictures that I used to see from that era where the Women especially with those two they looked like the type who would dress up as men and go to the clubs. Mike: Absolutely Jessika: I get that. It's just a vibe I get and maybe it's just my gaydar Like my pansexual gaydar is Mike: going But I mean that's the ongoing lie that Hollywood loves to tell us is that truly sexy people are in throuples all the time. No they're fucking not. I'm bI And I was dating here in the Bay area and I would occasionally get hit on by people looking for a third and they never looked like that. Jessika: And in my experience and opinion if you go at it with the wrong attitude you're not necessarily going to get what you want out of it. And it's not going to be a genuine feeling relationship. Mike: Which I mean like that's relationships in general. Like Yeah I feel like a huge thing of any successful relationship is communications. Stay tuned listeners for our next podcast about relationships and relationship advice And I don't know I don't know where I was going with that. Jessika: Oh I was like we have a new podcast. We're four episodes into this podcast and Mike's like folks we have a new podcast. You know what I like I like your gusto. I like a motivated you Mike: I did have two quibbles about the movie. Getting back on topic. First we earlier mentioned there was no acknowledgement about the problematic nature of how Marston and Byrne's relationship began. Where he was her professor and she was his student. The movie was very fuzzy with time it was very fluid that way. So it wasn't really explained if she was still his student when the relationship began or if she was his research assistant but there was that power imbalance and their dynamic and that was deeply uncomfortable for me because it wasn't addressed. They just kinda hand waved it away. Fine. Whatever. For the movie, fine. Jessika: same way about that. Yeah It just it's gross and to your point there is a power dynamic that I was thinking about. If you are trying to please somebody who has some sort of control over you, whatever that looks like, if it's somebody who has your grades or your future career or your education or even your job... you know this could be at a job setting. If that person has power over you you're less inclined to say "no" to them. And that automatically puts you at a disadvantage. Mike: It was something that I noticed and I was a little frustrated that it wasn't addressed better. The second was that it didn't feel like we actually got enough time with Wonder Woman. The comics and the character felt more like a framing device but a framing device that we didn't really get a lot of payoff on, considering the title of the movie. I thought the scenes where he was actually in the comic office and there was a bit where they're like "Oh well, they're upset about the bondage. And they're like I feel like there's twice as much. And then he just is like I put in three times as much and he keeps walking. And and Oliver Platt was so great and I wanted more of him. For a movie that has Wonder Woman or Wonder Women in the title I just I wanted a little bit more time and acknowledgement. It felt like much more attention was paid just to their relationship with like the first two thirds of the movie. And then he goes with hat in hand to Oliver Platt's character at... was it all-star Comics? Was Jessika: that it? Mike: Yeah. I mix up all the publishers because they've all merged and come together at various. So yeah he It just it it was And especially cause you were like no he got hired to like do this to get them out of hot water now I'm like that makes much more sense. Jessika: Yeah He Mike: Considering the importance that we're led to believe that Wonder Woman will be to his story, I mean she's there. Like they do a number of things where they keep teasing us with Wonder Woman but we never really get that payoff. What about you like Jessika: I did my research on the topic prior to watching the film. So this will be mostly on what the film did or didn't do correctly kind of history with my own opinion of course sprinkled in as you'd expect from So to your point most of the drama seems to have been fabricated There's no indication that any issues with Radcliffe, like trying to boot him for indecency or with the neighbors regarding their relationship, and again even their children didn't know until after Marston's passing about their relationship. And I didn't read anything about them having split up at any point. And again I think that was just added for a forceful Hollywood dramatics play, since we're on the topic of dominance. And there again Marston was already working for Gaines when he created the idea of Wonder Woman and it was in direct relation to the voice of the critics. So he was answering the critics here. So it didn't necessarily seem like as big of a you did this thing and now we're going to make you pay. It was like well okay Right. The sections with Connie Britton -love her by the way, want more in my life just in general- and their back and forth minus all the people drama was actually pretty accurate as far as capturing the concerns of the day and what was being argued in the lobby against Wonder Woman. And then also pretty accurate in what his counterpoints were in relation to the to the comic itself. Mike: Yeah And I thought that was a smart choice to kind of make her the voice of the critics. Jessika: Yeah. That being said his relationship didn't come up at any point in this again because nobody knew about it until after the fact. So it's not like she would have been like what about those things you were indecent. Well, no that that didn't happen. That was all for dramatics. Overall I really liked it. So, again, me as a pansexual: love a good queer film and also being polyamorous or non-monogamous it was so nice seeing that to your point represented so positively, and without judgment. That was so surprising to me I really thought that there was going to be some sort of aspect from the point of view of the viewer to not want them to succeed. But the whole time you really do you're rooting for them. Mike: If you're a fan of history in comic books I think this is a great movie to go check out. My final thought is that reminded me a lot of Kinsey. Did you ever see that? It had Liam Neeson and Laura Linney in it and it's all about Kinsey, the guy created the Kinsey scale of sexuality. Jessika: Oh okay I'll have to check it out Mike: It's great. This kind of reminded me the same way where it's mostly true. It's not quite all there because they have to tszuj it up for the audiences. Jessika: Yeah, yeah. Well, let's move on to our other film that we watched which was Wonder Woman from 2009. And that was the animated origin story of Wonder Woman Do you want to give an overview of the film for us? Mike: Yeah, sure. This is one of the original DC Universe Animated Original Movies which were at the time this came out in 2009 they were still in their infancy. They'd only done three before. This one is loosely based on George Perez's acclaimed 1980s storyline called "Gods and Monsters" and it's written by Gail Simone and Michael Jelenic. Gail Simone has gotten her own amount of acclaim for writing Wonder Woman as well. The film introduces us to the Amazons who win a war against Ares and then they're granted the Island of Themiscyra and immortality in exchange for acting as Ares' jailer by the gods. Diana is later sculpted from clay and given life by the gods. This is kind of in direct opposition to the current mythos of Zeus being her deadbeat dad and then Diana lives on the Island for thousands of years until pretty much the modern day when two key events happen. Steve Trevor crashes on the Island by happenstance and then Ares stages of jailbreak. And Diana has to take Steve back to the United States and he helps her and request to stop the god of war. Jessika: And actually pretty similar to where they tried to go with the original Wonder Woman. So this was absolutely not a cartoon for children. Mike: Nooooo. Jessika: blood spattered backgrounds, fairly graphic death scenes, and three beheadings three beheadings. We're talking the head flying off and falling dramatically at someone's feet kind of beheading. And that being said I didn't particularly mind the violent nature of the animation as a movie for adults as I feel that it was done in a way that felt true to the battle and the struggle of what was happening in the storyline and it didn't feel overly gross in its depictions or its animations like just enough to give the definite impression that violence was occurring. That makes sense Ares is a super violent guy and he affects everyone around him into violence themself so that it did make sense in that way. So things I liked is that it it seemed to me like a fairly good representation of Wonder Woman's origin story as it was originally told by Marston based on what I was reading. Mike: Yeah it it felt like a very classic take on Wonder Woman's origin. And it was very familiar to someone who grew up nominally aware of her origins and reading her mini comics with her action figure and stuff like that. Jessika: One main difference was that the movie was set in seemingly present day America. Since at one point Wonder Woman ends up fighting in a mall, the fighter planes that Steve and company were flying looked modern for 2009. Marston's Wonder Woman was originally set in World War Two of course whereas the 2018 live action film with Gal Gadot was set in World War One. So we've just jumped around. Again DC is definitely not consistent. Mike: It's comic books. And DC's own in- comics timeline has been drastically reworked several times just in our lifetime. Jessika: Yeah. Yeah. And this time period change it definitely affects the vibe and political climate of American society at that time in the cartoon we're not presented with a particular war or a reason for fighting we're evidently just supposed to understand that the world of men is in constant battle every moment. Whereas in the original comic and Wonder Woman film Both took place during large global wars where it wouldn't be a far leap to present the god of war as the cause of those events. Mike: Yeah, absolutely. Jessika: Now things I didn't like cause apparently I veered into not liking and then we're continuing down that road. For someone that wasn't raised in a patriarchal society, Diana's internalized misogyny is staggering. At one point she says to Steve, "you're starting to sound like a woman" when he's discussing having feelings for her and later says to Ares, "how can you expect to beat Zeus If you can't even beat a girl." The fuck that? Mike: Which kind of goes against everything else that she does in the movie. Jessika: Yeah it directly against it. Yeah, so that was irritating. And then not only that, the president, because apparently they're in Washington DC, the president is told that they were saved by a group of armored supermodels. Which I had to rewind it and write that line down grossed. Out It's such a condescending and reductive statement to make about individuals that just saved your lives while you apparently slept through the whole situation, Mr President. And it drives home the point that even in heroism, women's worth is still viewed only in her attractiveness. Mike: Yeah there was a lot of that. Jessika: Yeah. Yeah. They also have Diana do quite a bit of killing with absolutely no thought whatsoever which is not in the original character at all. That doesn't feel very Diana. Mike: I mean, no. But at the same time I don't particularly have a problem with it but yeah Jessika: Yeah. So that was me. What about you? Were you at with that? Mike: I think I had a slightly more positive take on the movie. I mean it sounds like you still enjoyed it, right? Jessika: Oh, I liked it. I still liked it. Yeah. Mike: Part of it is just I viewed it at the time when it first came out and this was one of the first animated original movies. And it was the first one that I remember enjoying. So I think that it's definitely tinted my perspective a little bit. Jessika: You had a nostalgia factor that I didn't I hadn't seen it prior. Mike: I remember seeing the reviews for it and I was like, "Oh this looks really cool. The others that were released before that they were all, well two of the three were just straight adaptations of other you know quote unquote iconic stories So there is Superman: Doomsday which was the death and life of Superman and I did not give a shit about that movie. It was really I felt flat. Then there was Justice League: The New Frontier which is based on a really acclaimed mini series. And then there was Batman Gotham Knight which was -if I remember right- it was several different animated shorts and different animated styles. And none of them really did it for me. But the DC Animated Universe, which was helmed by Bruce Timm, so that's like the original Batman animated series from the nineties as well as the Superman series and then Justice League and then Batman Beyond or vice versa and then Justice League Unlimited, those were all incredible. And I knew that eventually we would get to the same point with the animated movies and Wonder Woman felt like that home run that I knew they'd eventually hit. So I really enjoyed the film overall and even watching it yesterday afternoon I had a blast, you know, even a decade later. I think its strongest element is that the movie clearly has zero fucks to give. That battle between the Amazons and Ares is incredibly violent and it's obvious from the first 30 seconds in that this is going to be a RIDE. And it doesn't shy away from some really tough narrative elements like where Hippolyta actually in that battle It's revealed that she kills Thrax, the son of Ares. Thrax is her child who is very heavily implied the product of rape by Jessika: Ares. Mike: Also the vocal cast is just incredible. This was 2009 Keri Russell, Nathan Fillion, Virginia Madsen, Rosario Dawson, Alfred Molina, and then Oliver Platt. They were really well-regarded actors at the time and they're still pretty big and side note Oliver Platt was in both of the movies that we watched for this Jessika: episode. I literally thought of that when you said that. Mike: he fucking steals every scene he's in. He was just this delightful villainous Hades and he's kinda gross but he's also just wonderfully sinister. I really dug that and I also really dug how it felt like a pretty faithful adaptation of the origin while still feeling fresh and fast. Like this movie is not long. That kind of leads into something that I didn't like was that It's a very short movie. It's barely over an hour long. I feel like we needed a director's cut or something because of the lines could have been fleshed out a little bit more like this is something Look Jessika: who wants director's cut now. Mike: Release the Simone cut or something, I don't know. I feel like there were a couple of sub plot lines that were kind of just glossed over. Like I mentioned Thrax is actually Diana's half-brother. I feel like maybe there might've been something more there. Maybe there wasn't, who knows. But it just it felt like something that I would have liked a little more room to breathe. And that's said, it was pretty solid. That said there were some problematic elements. Like Steve was so gross and so cringy Jessika: He kept calling her Angel and I just wanted to punch him in the jaw. Mike: Which, I mean, so that's like a thing from the comics and his other earlier incarnations but this time around it just felt gross. It felt like "babe" and you know blech. Jessika: Yeah. Yeah. He just he rolled in and was like "Oh naked ladies I'm in right place for me." Mike: And the problem is that Nathan Fillion was just too good at making him a sleazebag. Jessika: Which, love Nathan Fillion. Mike: I do too. Like, okay dude, we get it. He's kind of a gross misogynist. We don't need him to hit on Diana for the fifth time in as many minutes. Etta Candy viewing Diana as competition was also dumb. Candy's always been one of her best friends and I still think that her incarnation in the original movie was pitch perfect. And then her being this skinny little supermodel who's trying to flirt with Steve was dumb. You mentioned the other problematic misogynistic elements that I noted. the only other thing, and this wasn't an actual problem, was that I didn't realize how much better Wonder woman's costume is these days rather than the super swimsuit that we had for so long. It's funny because growing up with it, I never thought about it. And then really only in the last five years or so we've gotten a much more a

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One Best Podcast
BatCast #32: Justice League The New Frontier(2008)

One Best Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 10, 2021 76:42


This week we talk about the animated movie Justice League The New Frontier. Email us at Onebestpodcast@gmail.Com. Come on and email us! Mr.J knows how.

Comic Book Bears Podcast
Comic Book Bears Podcast Issue #191 - The Animated Shows and Movies We Love (Recorded 12/3/2020)

Comic Book Bears Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 29, 2020 107:03


On a week where none of us really had time to read comics, Bill, Bryan and Steve instead take you through some of their favorite animated series based on comic book properties! After an HBOMax/Scientology/pandemic tangent filled intro (hey, it happens) the animated talk starts! Listen in to hear what the CBB boys think about Sailor Moon, X-Men, Super Friends/Super Powers, Batman: The Killing Joke, Justice League: The New Frontier, Superman/Batman: Apocalypse, The Tick, Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, Teen Titans GO! and much, much more!

The Comics Podcast
206: It's About Justice League: The New Frontier

The Comics Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2020 69:02


This week the Comics Podcast Crew takes a trip back to a simpler time when America was good and just. Just kidding, but they do sit down and discuss the late Darwyn Cooke's seminal work, Justice League: The New Frontier. There's also new comics out including The Kill Lock #5 and Adventureman #1, and they're both pretty good to boot. All that plus some infuriating talk about scooters and the art of aquiring them. Kackaw!

The Comics Podcast
206: It's About Justice League: The New Frontier

The Comics Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2020 69:02


This week the Comics Podcast Crew takes a trip back to a simpler time when America was good and just. Just kidding, but they do sit down and discuss the late Darwyn Cooke's seminal work, Justice League: The New Frontier. There's also new comics out including The Kill Lock #5 and Adventureman #1, and they're both pretty good to boot. All that plus some infuriating talk about scooters and the art of aquiring them. Kackaw!

The Comics Podcast
206: It's About Justice League: The New Frontier

The Comics Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2020 69:02


This week the Comics Podcast Crew takes a trip back to a simpler time when America was good and just. Just kidding, but they do sit down and discuss the late Darwyn Cooke's seminal work, Justice League: The New Frontier. There's also new comics out including The Kill Lock #5 and Adventureman #1, and they're both pretty good to boot. All that plus some infuriating talk about scooters and the art of aquiring them. Kackaw!

GeekastX
GeekastX One-Shot: Justice League The New Frontier

GeekastX

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2020 78:33


For this GeekastX One-Shot Jake and Sean commentate on the great Darwyn Cooke adaption: Justice League The New Frontier!

WMQ&A by WMQ Comics
WMQ Presents Animated Discussions: Justice League the New Frontier

WMQ&A by WMQ Comics

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 13, 2020 68:24


In the latest in a series of WMQ pilot podcasts, hosts Dan Grote and Matthew Lazorwitz discuss the 2008 DC animated feature "Justice League: The New Frontier." Topics include whether we should like Hal Jordan, why Martian Manhunter is a good, good boy and why Kyle MacLachlan absolutely nails Superman.

I Don't Know Why We're Doing This
Episode 15: The Batman vs. Dracula (2005)

I Don't Know Why We're Doing This

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 5, 2020 170:18


This week Harlly, Jeaun and Lawson need to un-wet their pants as they begin their trek through the DC animated canon with 2005’s “The Batman vs. Dracula”. It’s a pain in the neck. ALSO DISCUSSED* Arrow: Season 8 (2019-2020)* Batman Beyond: The Return of the Joker (2000)* Batman: Gotham Knight (2008)* Batman: Mystery of the Batwoman (2003)* Cirque du Freak: The Vampire’s Assistant (2009)* The Curse of La Llorona (2019)* The Grudge (2020)* Justice League: The New Frontier (2008)* Like a Boss (2020)* Superman: Brainiac Attacks (2006)* Superman: Doomsday (2007)* True History of the Kelly Gang (2019)* Wonder Woman (2009)

The Annotator
Kevin Manthei - Invader Zim: Enter the Florpus

The Annotator

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 15, 2019 23:19


KEVIN MANTHEI has been working in the film, television and game arena for over 18 years. He has worked as the series composer on over half a dozen animated TV shows and several animated features, and composed over 60 game soundtracks. He studied with composer Jerry Goldsmith and has worked alongside of one-time, fellow students Christophe Beck and Marco Beltrami. He has written original music for BATMAN: GOTHAM KNIGHT, JUSTICE LEAGUE: THE NEW FRONTIER and GENERATOR REX. He has also written video game scores such as TRON: EVOLUTION, STAR TREK ONLINE and CHAMPIONS ONLINE. It was his work for video games that helped bring him to the attention of Jhonen Vasquez who hired Manthei to score 26 episodes of cult animated series INVADER ZIM.INVADER ZIM: ENTER THE FLORPUS is an American, animated, science-fiction, comedy film written by Jhonen Vasquez. It continues the original animated television series, Invader Zim, which originally aired on Nickelodeon and Nicktoons from 2001 to 2002. The new film was released on Netflix on August 16, 2019. In the film, Zim suddenly reappears to begin Phase 2 of his evil alien plan to conquer Earth, while his longtime nemesis Dib sets out to unmask him once and for all.In this episode, composer Kevin Manthei talks about returning to the Invader Zim franchise after 20 years. He discloses some of the challenges he faced in returning like: being respectful to his original score for the tv series while also adding something new. He reveals just how collaboratively he worked with creator/director Jhonen Vasquez; how Bram Stoker's Dracula influenced a portion of the music and how an early version of a particular piece was compared, by the director, to John Williams' Home Alone.ANNOTATED TRACKS / SEGMENTS02:34 - Space Looked Back03:57 - Discovering Dib & Main Titles07:22 - Floopsy Bloops Smoopsy SRC08:19 - Epic Montage12:30 - Peace is Nice15:16 - Schmorpus Hole18;22 - Dibs Epic Chase20:59 - End CreditsSOUNDTRACKYou can listen to the original score for Invader Zim: Enter the Florpus at Kevin Manthei's Soundcloud page.MORE ABOUT THE COMPOSERSYou can find out more and hear more music by Kevin Manthei at his official site, https://www.kmmproductions.com/ and you can follow him on Twitter @kevinmantheiABOUT THE ANNOTATORProduced by Christopher Coleman (@ccoleman) and you can Find more episodes at THEANNOTATOR.NET or you can subscribe via iTunes, Stitcher Radio or wherever you find quality podcasts.FOLLOW USTwitter @audioannotatorFacebook @TheAnnotatorInstagram @TheAnnotatorEmail theannotatorpodcast@gmail.com

Covert Nerd Podcast
Middle Earth Minute

Covert Nerd Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 18, 2019 9:50


Today we dive into the Tolkien universe with a Middle Earth Minute then we review 2 great comics.  Website: covertnerd.net ----more---- Long ago when middle earth was first created, there was a demi-god or in the Tolkien universe they’re called Maia. One of those Maia was named (My Ron) Mairon, meaning "the admirable." He learned much in the ways of smithing and handiwork, becoming a great craftsman. Although he was a Maia spirit, and not as mighty as the Valar or Gods, he was arguably the most powerful Maia.  He also had a love of order and perfection and disliked anything wasteful this would be his downfall, for in the Dark Lord Morgoth (who was an evil Valar), Mairon saw the power to help him achieve his own desires faster than if he had pursued them on his own. Morgoth wanted to control or destroy the very matter of the world itself, whereas Mairon's desire was to dominate the minds and will of its creatures. So great was his allegiance in later days, Mairon encouraged and coerced a realm of Men to worship Morgoth as the one true god. But that’s another story.    After allying himself with Morgoth, Mairon maintained his appearance of being faithful to the Valar, but secretly fed Morgoth information about their dealings. It was only when Morgoth established his strongholds in Middle-earth that Mairon left and openly declared his allegiance. After turning to evil the elves of Middle Earth called him Gorthaur, meaning "dread abomination"  During this time the elves waged war on Morgoth, who had stolen the Silmarils, enchanted gems that glowed with light from the home of the Valar. In that war, Gorthaur was counted as the "greatest of [Morgoth's] servants that have names". He was soon feared as a lord of terrible phantoms and dreadful beasts--a shape-shifter, sorcerer, and cunning servant of his master. He could take on many dark forms such as a Vampire Serpent  and Werewolf, but he could also appear fair and beautiful.  Gorthaur directed the war against the Elves. He conquered the Elvish isle of Tol Sirion, and it became known as the Isle of Werewolves and he was the Lord of the Werewolves and of Tol Sirion.   During the war an elf king and his men were captured by Gorthaur. The elf king and Gorthaur fought. During the battle only the elf king and his greatest warrior survived the other men were cast into the dark pits where werewolves devoured them.  After the war, with the downfall of his master Morgoth and the destruction of his fortress, Gorthaur adopted a fair form and feigned repentance of his evil deeds in fear of the wrath of his enemies. He was ordered to return to Valinor to receive judgement. He was not willing to suffer such humiliation and so he fled and hid himself in Middle-earth.   Although Gorthaur knew Men were easier to sway, he sought to bring the Elves into his service, as they were far more powerful. 1,200 years after his master's defeat, he decided the Valar had forgotten about Middle-earth and he once again turned to evil plotting.  After lying hidden and increasing his power in secret, Gorthaur put on a fair visage, calling himself Annatar, the Lord of Gifts, he befriended the Elvish smiths in a region of Middle Earth called Eregion near Moria where Gandalf fell to the Balrog in the fellowship of the ring. Although they never realized who he truly was he was never welcomed by the elf lords Elrond, Galadriel and Gil-Galad because they did not trust him and refused to treat with him. Elsewhere he was gladly received, and the Elvish smiths learned much from him as their thirst for knowledge was great. Hunger for knowledge was the elves weakness and he knew it.  Under Annatar's tutelage the Elven master craftsmen became more skilled than anyone else in that age. Remember in the beginning smithing was the first craft he mastered. He also counselled them in arts and magic. After many years when they reached the height of their power, the Elves began the forging of the Rings of Power, but Annatar knew all their secrets and ten years after the completion of the Rings of Power - he created The One Ring to control the bearers of the other rings. For this he invested most of his own power into the Ring as he forged it. I’m sure by now you know who I am talking about because he was also known more commonly in the high elf language Quenya as “the abhorred” or Sauron.    Sauron has more fascinating stories, but I will save that for another time. My goal is to give you small bits of a common character from the world of Tolkien that you may not have heard before.  I hope you enjoyed it, let me know either way at covert.net and find the many ways you can contact me.     Paper Girls:  Paper Girls is a mystery/science fiction comic book series written by Brian K. Vaughan and illustrated by Cliff Chiang, published by Image Comics.  Paper Girls follows the story of four 12-year-old newspaper delivery girls (Erin, MacKenzie, KJ, and Tiffany) set in Stony Stream, a fictional suburb of Cleveland, Ohio. While out delivering papers on the morning after Halloween in 1988.  The girls are attacked by a group of teenagers; one of the teens steals a walkie-talkie from Tiffany. The girls chase the group to a house and find what appears to be a time machine. The girls learn that the teenagers are time-travelers from the distant future, who are engaged in an ongoing war with a group known as the "Old-Timers". At the center of this conflict is the question of whether or not the past can and should be changed by future time-travelers.  If you like Stanger things you will like Paper Girls, they are very similar.  80’s flashback nostalgia with a touch of the weird and scary.  Over the last few weeks, I read the first 28 issues. Since I got back into comics a few years ago that seems to be the norm for me, binging on a series.  Anyway, I recommend checking out Papergirls if you like 80’s nostalgia and a time travel adventure.      DC New Frontiers  Another nostalgic comic I found was from DC called DC  New Frontiers. Slightly different since I primarily read comics from independents as of late. But this one caught my eye and I liked what I saw and read.  The story takes place in the 50’s and early 60’s of the DC universe.  The art the heros costumes reflect that style. I mentioned in a previous episode that golden age style has had a resurgence over the last 5 or 10 years.  It seems to have appeal to a new generation.  DC: The New Frontier is an award-winning six-issue comic book series written and drawn by Darwyn Cooke, and published in 2004.   Set from 1945 to 1960, post-World War II sentiment and Cold War tension have pushed the Age of the Superhero into decline. However, when a threatening alien presence emerges on earth a new era of superheroes must join forces with veteran heroes and an unfriendly United States government to battle the nemesis  The series was influenced by Kingdom Come, The Golden Age, Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns. Much like The Golden Age, New Frontier is set primarily in the 1950s and depicts Golden Age superheroes Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman meeting Silver Age characters The Flash, Green Lantern and Martian Manhunter. The story bridges the gap between the end of the Golden Age and the beginning of the Silver Age in the DC Universe. The story was also adapted into an animated film, Justice League: The New Frontier, which was released on February 26, 2008.  I had forgotten how different the DC heros looked in the 40s and 50’s, but they have a certain charm about them, I can’t put my finger on it.  The story flows well and you get to see all the classic DC characters you know and love. I wouldn’t say I’m a DC expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I recognized all the main characters in the story and knew the origins they were describing. Even if you are a novice DC fan you will like this book. You can pick up the TPB to read the entire story in one big volume. Go online or talk to your local comic shop.     

The Cinematic Schematic
Sound Trek Film Composer Spotlight: Kevin Manthei

The Cinematic Schematic

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 28, 2018 76:47


  Guest Kevin Manthei Film/TV/Video Game Composer Follow Kevin Manthei on Twitter: @KevinManthei Like Kevin on Facebook @KevinMantheiMusic Visit kevinmanthei.com for more information on his past and future projects Welcome to the first of Sound Trek's new film/TV/video game composer spotlight interviews on The Cinematic Schematic! Each month hosts Alexandra Bohannon and Caleb Masters will sit down for a talk with a composer working in the entertainment industry to discuss the blood, sweat, and musical notes that go into creating the iconic themes and catchy tunes that accompany our favorite pieces of entertainment every day. This spotlight series will help listeners learn more about the lives and journeys of the composers behind the iconic themes we all know and love. Debuting our film composer spotlight interview series is the well-spoken and multi-talented film/TV/video game composer Kevin Manthei. Kevin has contributed to film scores including The Faculty, Resident Evil (2002), Batman: Gotham Knight, Justice League: The New Frontier, and the Scream sequels. His extensive work in television includes Invader Zim, Ben 10 (2016 series) Ultimate Spider-Man, Johnny Test, and Xiaolin Showdown. His time scoring for video games led to equally iconic theme with his credits including Twisted Metal: Black, Star Trek Online, and Tron: […] The post Sound Trek Film Composer Spotlight: Kevin Manthei appeared first on The Cinematropolis.

Whelmed :  the Young Justice files
Elseworlds : Justice League: The New Frontier

Whelmed : the Young Justice files

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 24, 2018 82:53


Hello team! Welcome to Elseworlds and our discussion of Justice League: The New Frontier. This is a really great episode of the show and there's a lot to talk about, so let's get to it! Producer’s note: Never forget the Haunted Tank! The episode segments are as follows: Hello Megan - 2:55 Mission Briefing – 5:27 Feeling the Aster – 24:11 Future Past – 1:05:44 Movie: Justice League: The New Frontier Comic: DC: The New Frontier More From Darwyn Cooke: https://bit.ly/2O3E2sM  https://bit.ly/2AphSh5  As always, thanks for listening and all your support. We appreciate each and every one of you more than we can express. If you have a moment to add some additional support, a rating and review on iTunes or your pod catcher of choice would help immensely. And if you have the ability to support us monetarily, we have a Patreon here. Thank you all, and stay whelmed. Produced by: Neal Powell

Speech Bubble
Pages for Pledges

Speech Bubble

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 19, 2018 79:21


It's our first ever clip show live from a back storeroom inside Paradise Comics at Yonge and Lawrence during a very special fundraiser. Sketches for Pledges was organized by past Speech Bubble guest Shane Kirshenblatt to benefit The Canadian Cancer Society in honor of the legendary Toronto born comic artist Darwyn Cooke (Batman: Ego, Justice League: The New Frontier) and, friend of the Toronto comics community, Brendan Yapp. Local artists including the three guests on this show -- Steve Bynoe, Jason Roussel and Nik Zezos -- raised $3297.20 -- by sketching for a very generous public. Now, listen as they discuss everything from their latest projects to their artistic style and how they too were touched by cancer as we follow their efforts to break in to the comic industry as part of this fundraiser and beyond. This podcast sponsored by our friends at Hairy Tarantula.Steve BynoeInstagramTwitterFacebooklatest comic book - Chronokari AlphaWebsiteInstagramEditorial director of Comix AsylumWebsiteInstagramTwitterYoutubeFacebookJason RousselFacebookInstagramNik ZezosInstagramFacebookSponsorsHairy TarantulaCoupon CodesEnter these codes at checkout when you shop online and we'll get some money to support the podcast.Geeky t-shirts – Riptapparel.com – 10% OFF – NEVERSLEEPSLast minute gifts – Giftagram.com -- $15 OFF -- NEVERSLEEPS15

The Movie Chemists Podcast
Episode 49 - TIME TO KILL PACO(Barry Season 1 Review & Justice League The New Frontier Review)

The Movie Chemists Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 11, 2018 63:33


The Movie Chemists Podcast is one episode away from number 50. In this episode we discuss some recent news on another Joker origin story movie by WB(1:30). Then we catch up on some TV and review season one of HBO's "Barry" (21:14)starring Bill Hader. Then Greg and Brian have decided to review all DC Animated movies from the beginning. Today we started with Justice League The New Frontier(50:19). Follow The Movie Chemists Podcast on Twitter and IG @TheMovieChemists and email requests to themoviechemists@gmail.com. Follow Our Movie Chemist Host Gregory Canillas on twitch at twitch.tv/iceteamix https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-movie-chemists-podcast/id1323407558?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D2 https://soundcloud.com/the_movie_chemists_podcast https://play.google.com/music/listen?u=0#/ps/Ilou3qeu2thqwoyn776wryrcpvm As Always Rate and Review us on iTunes

The Super Mates Podcast
Super Mates 79: Starman Chronicles and Stocking Stuffers!

The Super Mates Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 14, 2017


Chris and Cindy celebrate the season with a Christmas edition of The Starman Chronicles! In Starman #27, Jack Knight's holiday plans are interrupted by a person in need…a homeless Santa Claus! Then some special audio presents under the tree from DCU Holiday Bash starring Etrigan the Demon and Darkseid, and featuring some of our F&W All-Star Friends! They gift-wrap up the episode with a look at a TV classic, and another character without a home for Christmas…namely Fonzie in the Happy Days episode “Guess Who's Coming to Christmas” Special thanks to Diablou Frank for the Starman intro, and Ryan Daly, the Irredeemable Shag and Dani Franklin for donating their voices! Subscribe via iTunes. This podcast is a proud member of the FIRE AND WATER PODCAST NETWORK Visit our WEBSITE: http://fireandwaterpodcast.com/ Follow us on TWITTER - https://twitter.com/FWPodcasts & https://twitter.com/supermatespod Like our FACEBOOK page - https://www.facebook.com/FWPodcastNetwork Like our FACEBOOK page - https://www.facebook.com/supermatespodcast Use our HASHTAG online: #FWPodcasts Email us at supermatespodcast@gmail.com Clip credits: “Christmas All Over Again” by Tom Petty “Pretty Paper” by Roy Orbison Selected tracks from A Charlie Brown Christmas by Vince Guaraldi “The Centre/Hal Shot Down” from Justice League: The New Frontier by Kevin Manthei “Darkseid's Theme” from Superman: The Animated Series by Shirley Walker Opening theme from Santa Claus is Comin' To Town Clips from Happy Days: “Guess Who's Coming to Christmas” “It Came Upon a Midnight Clear” from Twin Sisters Productions

Na na na na na na na na Podcast!
JL: The New Frontier (2008)-Car Vietnam!

Na na na na na na na na Podcast!

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2017 129:45


This week Comedian Rosa Escandon joins Danny and Jacob on the podcast to talk about Justice League: The New Frontier! Based on the comic book of the same name, The New Frontier depicts the Justice League in the early 60s, dealing with McCarthyism, the lasting effects of the Korean war, and a floating island full of dinosaurs. Follow us on Twitter, @NaNaNaPodcast, Facebook Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Podcast. Follow Danny on twitter @DannyRathbun, and Wallace @AMouthyBroad, follow Jacob @Colburn219. Check out our list of Batmen at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HyosnRn-dfHNkD15RJzl9yLKkA52YWrVRj87F7360kg/pub?output=pdf And see our scheduled movies at : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eyUAowtbYKpW3Gv4YCOuD_II7PwntCRGaTa5KVbCUis/edit?usp=sharing

Na na na na na na na na Podcast!
JL: The New Frontier (2008)-Car Vietnam!

Na na na na na na na na Podcast!

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2017 129:45


This week Comedian Rosa Escandon joins Danny and Jacob on the podcast to talk about Justice League: The New Frontier! Based on the comic book of the same name, The New Frontier depicts the Justice League in the early 60s, dealing with McCarthyism, the lasting effects of the Korean war, and a floating island full of dinosaurs. Follow us on Twitter, @NaNaNaPodcast, Facebook Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Na Podcast. Follow Danny on twitter @DannyRathbun, and Wallace @AMouthyBroad, follow Jacob @Colburn219. Check out our list of Batmen at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HyosnRn-dfHNkD15RJzl9yLKkA52YWrVRj87F7360kg/pub?output=pdf And see our scheduled movies at : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eyUAowtbYKpW3Gv4YCOuD_II7PwntCRGaTa5KVbCUis/edit?usp=sharing

The Starling Tribune: An Unofficial Arrow TV Show Fan Podcast
Season 5.5 Edition – Legends Of Tomorrow Aruba (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast) ST166

The Starling Tribune: An Unofficial Arrow TV Show Fan Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2017 49:35


Season 5.5 Edition – Legends Of Tomorrow Aruba (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast) ST166   Episode:“Aruba” [Season 2 Episode 17]  Air Date:Tuesday, April 4, 2017  Director:Rob Seidenglanz  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1032600/?ref_=tt_ov_dr   2x Riverdale | 2x Legends | 6x Blindspot | 1x Suits    Writers:Phil Klemmer  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0459237/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr5   9x Legends | 3x The Tomorrow People | 12x Chuck | 12x Veronica Mars    Marc Guggenheim  http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0973233/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr6   Executive Producer Legends and Arrow | 15x Arrow | 9x Legends | Green    Lantern (2011)    Promo: https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc/legends_of_tomorrow/legends-of-tomorrow-its-now-or-never-for-the-team-in-this-new-promo-for-the-season-2-finale-aruba-a149998     Arrow Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating 01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89 02 The Recruits 12-Oct-16 1.94 03 A Matter Of Trust 19-Oct-16 1.79 04 Penance 26-Oct-16 1.87 05 Human Target 2-Nov-16 1.61 06 So It Begins 9-Nov-16 1.95 07 Vigilante 16-Nov-16 1.86 08 Invasion 30-Nov-16 3.55 09 What We Leave Behind 7-Dec-16 1.94 10 Who Are You 25-Jan-17 1.68 11 Second Chances 1-Feb-17 1.91 12 Bratva 8-Feb-17 1.61 13 Spectre Of The Gun 15-Feb-17 1.66 14 The Sin-Eater 22-Feb-17 1.54 15 Fighting Fire with Fire 1-Mar-17 1.60 16 Checkmate 15-Mar-17 1.53 17 Kapiushon 22-Mar-17 1.38 18 Disbanded 29-Mar-17 1.55 19 Dangerous Liaisons 26-Apr-17 20 Underneath 3-May-17 21 Honor Thy Fathers 10-May-17 22 Missing 17-May-17 23 Lian Yu 24-May-17   Legends Of Tomorrow Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating 01 Out Of Time 13-Oct-2016 3.01 02 Justice Society of America 20-Oct-2016 2.83 03 Shogun 27-Oct-2016 2.71 04 Abominations 3-Nov-2016 1.75 05 Compromised 10-Nov-2016 1.77 06 Outlaw Country 17-Nov-2016 1.85 07 Invasion 1-Dec-2016 3.39 08 The Chicago Way 8-Dec-2016 2.00 09 Raiders Of The Lost Art 24-Jan-2016 1.74 10 The Legion Of Doom 31-Jan-2017 1.78 11 Turncoat 7-Feb-17 1.89 12 Camelot/3000 21-Feb-17 1.64 13 Land Of The Lost 7-Mar-17 1.54 14 Moonshoot 14-Mar-17 1.34 15 Fellowship of the Spear 21-Mar-17 1.72 16 Doomworld 28-Mar-17 1.59 17 Aruba 4-Apr-17 1.52   Supergirl Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating 01 The Adventures of Supergirl 10-Oct-16 3.06 02 The Last Children of Krypton 17-Oct-16 2.66 03 Welcome to Earth 24-Oct-16 2.65 04 Survivors 31-Oct-16 2.22 05 Crossfire 7-Nov-16 2.47 06 Changing 14-Nov-16 2.35 07 The Darkest Place 21-Nov-16 2.61 08 Medusa 28-Nov-16 3.53 09 Supergirl Lives 23-Jan-17 2.65 10 We Can Be Heroes 30-Jan-17 2.35 11 The Martian Chronicles 6-Feb-17 2.4 12 Luthors 13-Feb-17 2.52 13 Mr. & Mrs. Mxyzptlk 20-Feb-17 2.24 14 Homecoming 27-Feb-17 2.17 15 Exodus 6-Mar-17 2.16 16 Star-Crossed 20-Mar-17 2.07 17 Distant Sun 27-Mar-17 2.21 18 Ace Reporter 24-Apr-17   THE FLASH Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date  / Rating 01 Flashpoint 4-Oct-16 3.17 02 Paradox 11-Oct-16 2.80 03 Magenta 18-Oct-16 2.67 04 The New Rogues 25-Oct-16 2.80 05 Monster 1-Nov-16 2.77 06 Shade 15-Nov-16 3.01 07 Killer Frost 22-Nov-16 2.95 08 Invasion! 29-Nov-16 4.15 09 The Present 6-Dec-16 3.14 10 Borrowing Problems From The Future 24-Jan-17 2.68 11 Dead Or Alive 31-Jan-17 3.06 12 Untouchable 7-Feb-17 2.94 13 Attack on Gorilla City 21-Feb-17 2.78 14 Attack On Central City 28-Feb-17 2.87 15 The Wrath of Savitar 7-Mar-17 2.52 16 Into The Speed Force 14-Mar-17 2.39 17 Duet 21-Mar-17 2.71 18 Abra Kadabra 28-Mar-17 2.39 19 The Once And Future Flash 25-Apr-17 20 I Know Who You Are 2-May-17   What was the overall themefor this episode? What was the link to the episodes name?  Mick's plan: go to Aruba instead of dealing with all of this Fight scenes and stunts Getting Ray's suit DarhkForce chokes Ray and Jax  Tiny Waveriderattack Darhk  Mick knocks Darhkout  Sara and Nate punch some bad guys Ray enlarges the Waveriderwhile they're in Star Labs   Outside of Waverider--- 1916  Ray punches Sara; tries again, she ducks, he hits Rip Mick hits Jax Steeled up Nate knocks out Sara Firestorm confronts Doom Boys on Waverider Get past selves to safety Legion against Legends Darhkand Malcolm go “back to basics”  Firestorm shot with arrow by Malcolm Snartgets Ray  Other Jaxkilled by Malcolm; Jax stabs Malcolm with arrow and decks him with bow  Mick gets Darhk; Doom Mick killed by Snart Darhkstabs Doom Nate  Darhkand Sara sword fight; other Sara decks him  Thawne shows up with All The Reverse Flashes; beats everyone up After Sara's moment in the Spear Thawne ready to attack Sara with Spear Black Flash comes and rips Thawne's heart out All the Thawnesdisintegrates   Time travel Central City - 2017 Getting team back together  France - 1916 From the pages of Timey WimeyGobbledy Goop by Rip Hunter: They are in a race against a reality quake emanating from 2017; reality has conveniently not set yet  Have to limit exposure to selves in past Doomworldselves will disappear  Get blood, blood destroyed; try to steal Spear, trapped on Waveriderto avoid contact with past selves  They create a Time Quake when they interact with themselves Bigger Time Quake when time jump with all selves; create Time Storm Sara uses Spear Moment with Laurel that never happened Laurel is the Spear - she can remake reality how she wants Sara gives Laurel Spear; she gives it back Strong enough to do right thing Sara strips the Spear of its power THEY BROKE TIME LA, 2017 Dinosaurs, twisted buildings Sara Lance / White Canary Plan: find Rip, then find Ray's suit to un-shrink Waverider; then on to 1916 Plan: get blood, give to past selves Plan: steal Spear from selves while others are in Church, but boys fumble interacting with past team on Waverider  Plan: Stop boys from getting on Waverider, fails Sarasgo talk it out  Plan: time jump Plan: send other selves to other Waverider; Doom selves will fight Legion Moment in Spear - present Sara, not Doom Sara Rate her as a Captain: Ray Palmer / The Atom Figures out how to communicate with Rip Gets suit back Gets heart ripped out Mick Rory / Heat Wave Let's go to Aruba and get drunk Runs op to Waverider Has a team now Sees himself as a better man Sets course for Aruba Martin Stein / Firestorm Firestorm Jefferson Jackson / Firestorm Firestorm Nate Heywood / Steel Says blood in Galapagos Islands in 1984 Fumbles when sees Amaya; makes them run late Tells past self how he feels about Amaya Amaya Jiwe/ Vixen  Thinks about leaving team; changes mind Rip Hunter Off to save team - shrunk; looks like toy Not happy they are ready to break time by interfering in events they have taken part in In full Time Master mode We really shouldn't time jump with everyone on board Nothing more to teach team; takes jump ship Gideon Informs team that Time Storm is very bad Legion of Doom Eobard Thawne / Reverse-Flash Figures out the idiots would go back to 1916 Destroys vial of blood Kills Ray Confuses Legion by going back as Doomworldself and telling them what to do  Erased Damien Darhk Attack Waveriderwith future weapons  Taken back to the 80s and memory wiped Malcolm Merlyn Attack Waveriderwith future weapons  Sent back to 2016 Snart Attack Waveriderwith cold gun  Taken back to 2014, memory wiped   ARROW NEWS   Arrow Boss Teases Michael Emerson's 'Fantastic' Debut as Mystery Villain (Date: 27 August 2017) Emerson is set to recur during Season 6 in an undisclosed mystery role. During TVLine'sFall Preview Q&A with co-showrunner Wendy Mericle, it was confirmed that Emerson will be playing one of at least two main threats to Oliver Queen.[Text Wrapping Break]“This character that we're having [Michael] play is somewhat similar to people has has played in the past,” Mericle “But we had many conversations with him about how to make it different, and what elements we could bring to the character to change it up.” Whatever Emerson is now up to on Arrow, the bosses are loving what they're seeing. “He is a dream to work with, and I think he's doing an amazing job,” raves Mericle. “We've seen some dailies of some of his episodes and he's just fantastic. He's a really understated, subtle actor, and that brings a different energy on set. It's great.”  https://tvline.com/2017/08/27/arrow-season-6-preview-michael-emersons-mystery-villain/    Ask Ausiello: Spoilers on The Flash, Grey's Anatomy, This Is Us, Scandal, Supernatural, Lucifer, Chi Fire and More (Date: 23 August 2017) Question: Any possibility of having an all-girls mission during Season 6 of Arrow? — “You know, we always talk about that — across all the shows. And it's totally possible,” Arrow boss Marc Guggenheim answers. “But truth be told, I wouldn't want to do it unless we could figure out a way to get Sara (played on Legends by CaityLotz) in there as well. One of my favorite episodes was 406, where we had Speedy, Black Canary and Canary all fighting side-by-side-by side together, and that was a blast. Seeing three badass women was really, really awesome. [An all-girls mission] is on our ‘bucket list,' but I really want to figure out a way to get Sara in there as well.”  http://tvline.com/2017/08/23/this-is-us-season-2-spoilers-jack-kid-young-flashback/    New ArrowverseTrailer Teases A Flash/Legends Crossover (Date: 24 August 2017)  The teaser blends footage from last season with new scenes from each of the four DC/CW shows - Supergirl, The Flash, DC's Legends of Tomorrow and Arrow. It shows Barry Allen and Iris West face to face in a strange, dreamlike sequence. We get a sense for what that other Flash, Wally West, might be up to once Barry is back in the saddle. In a short scene, Kid Flash and Citizen Steel are hanging out after a fight, with Nick Zano'sNate complaining to Wally that the speedster failed to leave him any bad guys to fight.  http://comicbook.com/2017/08/25/new-arrowverse-trailer-teases-a-flash-legends-crossover/    GENERAL DC TV NEWS   The Flash adds Katee Sackhoff as DC Comics villain (Date 21 August 2017) Katee Sackhoff has joined the cast of The Flash in a recurring role, EW has learned exclusively. The Battlestar Galactica alum will play DC Comics villain Amunet Black, a.k.a Blacksmith, a steely and badass boss of an underground black market for supervillains. Amunet uses every means possible, including the long list of metahumans under her thumb, to ensure her illicit enterprise thrives. The actress will first appear in episode 405, interestingly titled “Girls Night Out,” which also serves as a mini-crossover with Arrow: Emily Bett Rickards will also pop up during the hour. http://ew.com/tv/2017/08/21/flash-katee-sackhoff-amunet-season-4/    Supergirl boss: 'Maggie does not die' (Date: 25 August 2017) With Floriana Lima not returning to Supergirl as a series regular, the fate of the Alex-Maggie romance has been in question during the long hiatus, but now we have some definitive news. “Maggie does not die,” executive producer Andrew Kreisberg tells EW. “I'm sure a lot of people are afraid of that. Maggie will continue to exist in the world and we hope that if the opportunity presents itself for her, that she'll come back from time to time.” Floriana decided to move on from the show and will be written out. http://ew.com/tv/2017/08/25/supergirl-maggie-does-not-die/    EP Phil Klemmer Talks Legends Of Tomorrow Season 3 With DCLegendsTV (Date 21 August 2017) According to Klemmer, Jonah Hex has a chance of coming back to Legends. This season promises to be darker and more supernatural, which is where Darhk fits in. About Snart's return, he said, “It will be about as polar opposite as the Snart that he's played on our show. We've got a cool pitch to justify that version of him, which I don't want to give away. But it's going to be really traumatic for Mick Rory, because he has deified this version of his dead partner in his head, and in a way, Snart's return is his greatest wish come true, but the fact that he doesn't get the version that he's held in the back of his mind is deeply unsettling. Rory's made a lot of progress as well in the meantime, but he's certainly not ready to call himself a hero.” http://dclegendstv.com/2017/08/21/ep-phil-klemmer-talks-legends-of-tomorrow-season-3-with-dclegendstv/2/   The Massive DC Universe Animated Film Boxed Set Is Now Available To Order (Date 25 August 2017) The collection is an enormous Blu-ray boxed set that will include all 30 films released up until this point (that means everything but the upcoming Gotham by Gaslight) along with newly released commemorative editions of Wonder Woman and Justice League: The New Frontier as well as all five “DC Showcase” animated shorts – The Spectre, Green Arrow, Jonah Hex, Catwoman and Superman/Shazam: The Return of Black Adam.The DC Universe Original Movies: 10th Anniversary Collection is now available to pre-order on Amazon for $299.99. It is covered by Amazon's pre-order price guarantee, so if it gets any cheaper between now and the November 7th release date, you'll get the lower price.  http://comicbook.com/2017/08/25/dc-universe-boxed-set/ ‘'   Ask Ausiello: Spoilers on The Flash, Grey's Anatomy, This Is Us, Scandal, Supernatural, Lucifer, Chi Fire and More (Date 23 August 2017) Since Episode 5 of The Flash is called “Girls Night Out,” is there a chance the girls will actually speak to each other? And might they do so at a party in anticipation of a certain wedding? — Here's what Flash EP Todd Helbing had to say about Ep 5: “It's really fun. The girls [including a visiting Felicity Smoak] go and have a night out in Central City alone, without the guys. And they get into some trouble.” And to the second part of your Q about the possibility of the outing being a bachelorette party for the potential future Mrs. West-Allen, Helbing responds with a laugh, “Possibly.” http://tvline.com/2017/08/23/this-is-us-season-2-spoilers-jack-kid-young-flashback/    Spoiler Room: Scoop on Grey's Anatomy, Supernatural, The Flash and more (Date 24 August 2017) Any more scoop on The Flash‘s girls night out? — That episode won't be the only girl power we'll be seeing this year. “We're definitely going to see Iris' relationship with Caitlin especially developed this season, which we haven't seen before, which will be really nice for fans,” Candice Patton tells me. “Fans have been wanting to see more female dynamic on the show, and there will definitely be that. They're working closely together. Caitlin has been through so much herself in relationships, and I think if anyone can offer advice, it would be her, so she's there quite often to give Iris advice on her relationship with Barry and how to move forward.” http://ew.com/tv/2017/08/24/spoiler-room-greys-anatomy-supernatural-flash/    Spoiler Room: Scoop on Grey's Anatomy, Supernatural, The Flash and more (Date 24 August 2017) SuperCorp scoop for Supergirl. — “Lena and Kara's friendship will continue to grow,” EP Andrew Kreisberg says. “There's a lot of Lena-Kara adventures early on in this season. The most interesting thing about Lena is that she is so good, and so moral, and believes in second chances, but she comes from this family of truly evil people. As people are going to realize over the course of this season, it doesn't take much to make you bad. People don't just turn evil. They do one small bad thing and then that leads to another, and then to another, and so any time you're watching Lena, you're always wondering, ‘Is this the moment when she does the one small thing?'” http://ew.com/tv/2017/08/24/spoiler-room-greys-anatomy-supernatural-flash/    Supergirl: Annable Offers New Clues About S3 Villain Reign (Date 25 August 2017)  Reign will be a thorn in Supergirl's side during Season 3. At Comic-Con International in San Diego, Reign actress Odette Annable shared new details about her character. “Reign, as most of you know probably, she's a Worldkiller. She was bioengineered in a lab. She was sent from Krypton much like Kara and Clark, but her story is going to be different than any other villain that you've seen on Supergirl Seasons 1 and 2, mostly because she doesn't come to Earth to go on a killing spree,” Annable revealed. “She has a very specific agenda that she is out to do, and you will see that story unfold throughout the season. For me, it's really amazing because it's kind of a heartbreaking story and I think that you'll feel for her.” http://www.cbr.com/supergirl-season-3-reign/      NEXT EPISODE   Link to Promo: (Date: 26 August 2017) http://comicbook.com/2017/08/26/vixen-animated-series-to-premiere-as-movie-on-the-cw/     Episode: Vixen: The Movie (Vixen Seasons 1 and 2)  Air Date: CW SEED / Wednesday, August 30, 2017  Summary: Vixen is based on the DC Character Mari McCabe / Vixen, a costumed superhero crime-fighter with the power to mimic the abilities of any animal that has ever lived on Earth. The series is set in the same fictional universe as Arrow, The Flash, and Legends of Tomorrow.  Directors: James Tucker and Curt Geda  Writers: Lauren Certo, Nolan Dunbar, Brian Ford Sullivan, Wendy Mericle, Keto Shimizu, and Sarah Tarkoff    IMDB link:http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4406248/?ref_=nv_sr_1       Join The Starling Tribune each week as we stream live on Sunday afternoons 6:00 PM eastern or 5:00 PM Central at www.geeks.live. Join the fun chatroom and interact with the hosts live. Contact us: @StarlingTribune - starlingtribune@gmail.com - www.starlingtribune.com - www.facebook.com/starlingtribune - 612-888-CAVE or 612-888-2283.   Starling Tribune is proud to be a member of the GonnaGeek network found at GonnaGeek.com. For more geeky podcast visit GonnaGeek.com. a You can find us on iTunes under ''Starling Tribune." We are very thankful for all of our positive iTunes reviews. You can find all our contact information here on the Network page of GonnaGeek.com Our complete archive is always available at www.starlingtribune.com   This podcast was recorded Sunday August 27th, 2017.   Thank you for listening and we hope you enjoyed the show!   Audio Production by Stargate Pioneer of GonnaGeek.com.  

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Across the Airwaves Podcast (Standard MP3)
DC Nation Podcast LOST EPISODE - "Superman Doomsday"

Across the Airwaves Podcast (Standard MP3)

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2016 42:05


If you haven't heard by now, this past week we lost one of the greats: Daniel John Schmidt. Dan was the co-founder of Across the Airwaves and the longtime host of the DC Nation Podcast, Marvelverse Podcast, and ThronesCast here on the ATA Podcast Network. Dan was very much a Man of Steel and as we mourn the loss of this Superman, we wish to bring you to simpler times. This special edition of the DC Nation Podcast is what we would call a LOST EPISODE, an episode that was recorded long ago but was never actually released online. Before the DC Nation Podcast covered Arrow, The Flash, Gotham, Supergirl, and all of the other DCTV shows and films, this podcast was hosted by Dan and longtime ATA host Michael J. Petty where they covered DC Comics animation such as Young Justice, Green Lantern: The Animated Series, Beware the Batman, and the DC Universe Animated Original Movies, as well as DC comic books such as the famed Forever Evil story arc and the Smallville Season 11 comic series written by friend of the podcast Bryan Q. Miller. While on a hiatus from Beware the Batman and Smallville Season 11, Dan & Michael were covering the Forever Evil comic event as well as random DC Comics animated features. This episode was to be the first of many covering the DC Universe Animated Original Movies starting with Superman Doomsday, based off of the famous Death of Superman comic book. Unfortunately, Dan and Michael did not continue their original plan to conclude reviewing Forever Evil or the talk about Justice League: The New Frontier as an executive decision was made by us here behind the scenes that we were going to reboot the DC Nation Podcast to talk about all things live-action DCTV with Dan & Nico leading the charge. However, that's for another day. Today, we celebrate Dan's life by releasing this highly anticipated LOST EPISODE of the DC Nation Podcast covering the Superman Doomsday animated film.

The Super Mates Podcast
Super Mates 54: JLMay Crossover Part 5! JLA: Year One #9

The Super Mates Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 19, 2016


The epic JLMay podcast crossover continues! Chris and Cindy take a look at JLA: Year One #9 by Mark Waid, Brian Augustyn, Barry Kitson and Michael Bair. The JLA are at their lowest point while Locus strikes! Plus, every DC fan's wish: Snapper Carr gets his!   Be sure to follow the crossover to these fines shows: Idol Head of Diabolu: http://shoutengine.com/TheIdolHeadofDiaboluPodcast Comic Reflections: http://www.podcastgarden.com/podcast/comicreflections Views from the Longbox: http://www.viewsfromthelongbox.com   This podcast is a proud member of the FIRE AND WATER PODCAST NETWORK   Visit our WEBSITE: http://fireandwaterpodcast.com/ Follow us on TWITTER - https://twitter.com/FWPodcasts Like our FACEBOOK page - https://www.facebook.com/FWPodcastNetwork Like our FACEBOOK page - https://www.facebook.com/supermatespodcast Use our HASHTAG online: #FWPodcasts Email us at supermatespodcast@gmail.com   Clip credits: “Wedding March” from Flash Gordon by Queen Selected tracks from Justice League: The New Frontier Soundtrack by Kevin Manthei Clip from Dumb and Dumber by Peter Farrelly Theme from Justice League by Lolita Ritmanis Theme from Justice League Unlimited by Michael McCuistion Justice League: Crisis on Two Worlds opening theme by James L. Venable “Kookie, Kookie (Lend Me Your Comb): by Edd Byrnes and Connie Stevens Closing theme from The World's Greatest Super Friends by Hoyt Curtin “Under Pressure” by Queen and David Bowie

Super Skull Comic Book Podcast
We'll Miss You, Darwyn Cooke

Super Skull Comic Book Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later May 19, 2016


This week's episode of Super Skull is dedicated to the memory of the legendary Darwyn Cooke, comic book artist, writer, director, and visionary. Our outro music this week is Victory, from Justice League: The New Frontier, composed by Kevin Manthei. Thank you for your comics; we'll miss you, Darwyn Cooke. 

Those Guys
Justice League: The New Frontier Review!

Those Guys

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 30, 2016 69:00


Those Guys discuss Justice League: The New Frontier, and More...

Movie Freaks
Episode 92: Refried Dolphin Beans

Movie Freaks

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 11, 2016 91:55


Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon 2: Sword of Destiny v The Barkley Marathons on the roulette, Theater Ticket Lottery, and we chat Deadpool, a bunch of Luigi Cozzi movies, Justice League: The New Frontier, Eaten Alive, Forbidden World, Hellraiser 8 and 9 and much more!

The Super Mates Podcast
Super Mates Episode 49: The Starman Chronicles, Part 4

The Super Mates Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Feb 18, 2016


The Mist returns to wreak havoc on Opal City! Chris and Cindy take a look at the second major Starman story arc, Sins of the Child by James Robinson, Tony Harris and friends, from Starman issues 12-16. This podcast is a proud member of the FIRE AND WATER PODCAST NETWORK Visit our WEBSITE: http://fireandwaterpodcast.com/ Follow us on TWITTER - https://twitter.com/FWPodcasts Like our FACEBOOK page - https://www.facebook.com/FWPodcastNetwork Like our FACEBOOK page - https://www.facebook.com/supermatespodcast Use our HASHTAG online: #FWPodcasts Email us at supermatespodcast@gmail.com Clip credits: “Wedding March” from Flash Gordon by Queen “Glorious Day” and “Only in Dreams” by Weezer “Ghost in the Machine at the Stroke of Midnight” by Shirley Walker (Flash TV Series) “You Belong to the City” by Glenn Frey “Superman Ties it Up/J'onzz Bonds” and “Island Revealed/Superman Down” by Kevin Manthei from Justice League: The New Frontier “The Day Time Ended” by Richard Band, performed by the London Symphony Orchestra “Don't Come Around Here No More” by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers Next Time: Episode 50!

Animation Aficionados » Podcast Feed
Episode 48: Justice League: The New Frontier

Animation Aficionados » Podcast Feed

Play Episode Listen Later Nov 22, 2011


We continue with our Animation Aficionados/Tooncast Beyond crossover with this very special episode about a very special movie. It’s Justice League: The New Frontier! This movie has all the characters we love in their classic incarnations. However, bucking the usual … Continue reading →

The Batman Universe Commentaries
Justice League: The New Frontier (2008)

The Batman Universe Commentaries

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 22, 2011 74:06


Join Dustin, Joe and Jon as they give their commentary of Justice League: The New Frontier. The post Justice League: The New Frontier (2008) appeared first on The Batman Universe.

Earth-2.net: The Show
Episode 345

Earth-2.net: The Show

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2009 122:46


Much like they reviewed Justice League: The New Frontier in episode 199, James and Mike sit down to discuss the direct-to-DVD feature Superman / Batman: Public Enemies.

Earth-2.net: The Show
Episode 345

Earth-2.net: The Show

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2009 122:46


Much like they reviewed Justice League: The New Frontier in episode 199, James and Mike sit down to discuss the direct-to-DVD feature Superman / Batman: Public Enemies.

Earth-2.net Presents...
Earth-2.net: The Show - Episode 345

Earth-2.net Presents...

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2009 122:46


Much like they reviewed Justice League: The New Frontier in episode 199, James and Mike sit down to discuss the direct-to-DVD feature Superman / Batman: Public Enemies.

Earth-2.net Presents...
Earth-2.net: The Show - Episode 345

Earth-2.net Presents...

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2009 122:46


Much like they reviewed Justice League: The New Frontier in episode 199, James and Mike sit down to discuss the direct-to-DVD feature Superman / Batman: Public Enemies.

Random Signal
R.S. #76 - Popcorn and Pop Music

Random Signal

Play Episode Listen Later Jul 16, 2008 54:00


I'm beginning to suspect that my microphone is dying, and I apologize in advance if I sound like I'm recoring in a tin can. Ryn, on the other hand, sounds great! You'd think after three years I'd have this stuff down... Also, the crickets...WTF?! Song 1: Make My Day - Violet Vector and the Lovely Lovelies (from EP 1) [MySpace] [iTunes] We kick things of with an uplanned discussion of our favorite member of the Star Trek family: Deep Space Nine. We make special mention of the Season 6 episode "Far Beyond the Stars". Song 2: We Are All Accelerated Readers - Los Campesinos! (from Hold On Now, Yougster...) [MySpace] [Emusic] [iTunes] [PMN] Superhero Move Roundup! The Marvel Universe: Iron Man The Incredible Hulk Thor (2010) Ant-Man (2010) Iron Man 2 (2010) Captain America (2011) The Avengers (2011) The DC Universe: Batman: The Dark Knight Wonder Woman (2009) Justice League (2011) and on DVD... Superman: Doomsday Justice League: The New Frontier Batman: Gotham Knight Wonder Woman (2009) Song 3: Dear Mr. & Mrs. Troublemaker - All Girl Summer Fun Band (from 2) [MySpace] [Emusic] [iTunes] [PMN] And even more movies... Hellboy 2: The Golden Army WALL-E Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Song 4: The Crash, The Wagons, The Dying Horses - The Craft Economy (from All On C)

SOFA DOGS Podcast
#114 - Couch Surfing Ep. 9: Kill Your TV, Hump Your Modem

SOFA DOGS Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2008 67:42


Episode nine of Couch Surfing finds John and Scott discussing the differences between comics and movies as viable mediums of storytelling. Scott talks smack about dormitory living and teenagers, ensuring our audience doesn't get too big. John reviews Justice League: The New Frontier, which he finds entertaining but feeling very truncated. This leads into a discussion about the live-action counterpart, which still seems to be moving forward. The two of them question the credibility of i09.com, after a contradictory article on the success of science fiction in movies and TV. They push for a new measurement system to replace the Nielsen Ratings, while praising the merits of watching TV online. The following artists can be heard in this episode:MGMT, Kaiser Chiefs, Coldplay, Tuatara, Eminem, The New Pornographers, Rod Stewart, Ash, Linkin Park, Devo, Elastica, Goldfrapp, Regina Spektor, Rilo Kiley, Stars, Cornrowz, Aerosmith, Vast, Danny Elfman and Republica.

Word Balloon Comics Podcast
Andrea Romano On Directing The New Frontier

Word Balloon Comics Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Apr 15, 2008 48:04


On this edition of the Word Balloon podcast, host John Siuntres chats with  Andrea Romano, the casting and voice director for Warner Animation, who's been directing the dialog sessions for TV shows like The Boondocks,  Sponge Bob, and all of the DC superhero projects, including the Batman, Superman and Justice League films and TV series.You'll get behind the scenes details about the upcoming Batman Gotham Knight DVD, the highly successful Justice League The New Frontier, and next Fall's new series Batman The Brave And Bold.Andrea also talks about casting Kevin Conroy for the original Batman animated series, and answers the perennial fan question "Why doesn't Conroy play Batman in every Warner Bros lamination project?" Plus fascinating voice over stories about Brooke Shields (New Frontier's Carol Ferris) David Boreanaz (Hal Jordan) Phil Morris (John Stewart) and many other stars .

Earth-2.net: The Show
Episode 199

Earth-2.net: The Show

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 14, 2008 181:52


This isn't World's Finest Podcast and it isn't the Is It Wednesday Yet? segment, so why are both James Deaux and Desmond Reddick on Earth-2.net: The Show this week? That's because James and Mike review Justice League: The New Frontier, and then Des joins Mike to discuss Witchblade #116.

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Earth-2.net Presents...
Earth-2.net: The Show - Episode 199

Earth-2.net Presents...

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 14, 2008 181:52


This isn't World's Finest Podcast and it isn't the Is It Wednesday Yet? segment, so why are both James Deaux and Desmond Reddick on Earth-2.net: The Show this week? That's because James and Mike review Justice League: The New Frontier, and then Des joins Mike to discuss Witchblade #116.

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Earth-2.net: The Show
Episode 199

Earth-2.net: The Show

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 14, 2008 181:52


This isn't World's Finest Podcast and it isn't the Is It Wednesday Yet? segment, so why are both James Deaux and Desmond Reddick on Earth-2.net: The Show this week? That's because James and Mike review Justice League: The New Frontier, and then Des joins Mike to discuss Witchblade #116.

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Earth-2.net Presents...
Earth-2.net: The Show - Episode 199

Earth-2.net Presents...

Play Episode Listen Later Mar 14, 2008 181:52


This isn't World's Finest Podcast and it isn't the Is It Wednesday Yet? segment, so why are both James Deaux and Desmond Reddick on Earth-2.net: The Show this week? That's because James and Mike review Justice League: The New Frontier, and then Des joins Mike to discuss Witchblade #116.

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Starkville's House of El | Smallville
Starkville | Episode 72 – Seasonal

Starkville's House of El | Smallville

Play Episode Listen Later Dec 23, 2007 45:14


December 24, 2007 – This Week on SHoE – Derek and Steve bring you a special Christmas Eve edition of SHoE, with discussions on Justice League: The New Frontier, the arrival of Chloe Sullivan to DC Comics, and a certain superhero team-up in Will Smith’s “I Am Legend’. Merry Christmaskwanzahanukkah!